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Topic 24 of 74: Spring Logo - your ideas?

Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (06:17) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
The Spring is getting it's own logo. It's a work in progress by
CyberArtist Kim. I would really appreciate your input about where to go
next with this concept.

It's at the top of http://www.spring.net

What does it need? How can we expand it. This is going to be on Spring
t shirts, mugs, placemats, hats, etc. which we will be selling to raise
money to keep this going and will be giving away as prizes and rewards.
We'll also use it as our online identity.

Ideas? Suggestions?

154 responses total. 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 1 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (06:19) * 1 lines 
 


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 2 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (17:28) * 2 lines
How about everyone here who is capable submitting their own version of the Spring logo? Maybe we should set about a big redesign of the Spring graphics in general (e.g. buttons, backdrop) - we could run a little competition here, with the best ones being
chosen and used. A great way to give people a stake in their community!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 3 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (20:39) * 5 lines
I plan on doing just that. You can offer your proposal or you can just
critique what we're working on if you're graphically challenged.
Mostly, I'd love any form of input and feedback. What do you think of
the logo that's there now? Would anything else be better? What are
your ideas? Please share!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 4 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (20:50) * 1 lines
I'm thinking, I'm thinking!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 5 of 154: Wolf  (Wolf) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (21:12) * 1 lines
thought you were gonna have a animated gif of a spring, boing boing boing....

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 6 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (21:36) * 2 lines
I'm gonna get designing...expect logos and buttons soon :)


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 7 of 154: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (01:54) * 1 lines
Interesting thought, Wolf! To be honest, I always thought "spring" referred to a wellspring (of information), not the season. So I sort of pictured a fountain of water erupting. But your graphic is very nice, Terry.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 8 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (03:21) * 4 lines
Kim did a great job on it and she's working on another variant. That's
why it's so important to get input now, while she's working on it. I'm
hoping to get more input by the weekend.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 9 of 154: gena  (zx6rider) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (06:49) * 1 lines
I know I'm demented now... I hear Spring and see a slinky walking down the stairs. There is no hope. 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 10 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (11:05) * 2 lines
*lol*
thanks, Gena!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 11 of 154: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Mar  6, 1998 (16:07) * 1 lines
That's two for the "boing, boing" definition!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 12 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar  6, 1998 (23:33) * 3 lines
I've been looking, but I can't find
any slinky wallpaper...
(at least not this definition of...)

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 13 of 154: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Mar  7, 1998 (18:02) * 1 lines
*giggle* i'll do some checking too

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 14 of 154: orange  (orange) * Sun, Mar  8, 1998 (21:32) * 21 lines
i like the idea of a fountain also---
spraying into a reflecting pool where the word spring is written out
in rippling letters and also in the spray in the air

would like to see bolder color in the letters--brighter and bolder than
aqua or light blue

i like the classic european stone, vase-shaped fountain in the center
of a round pool, with the spray a traditional circular straight up
and falling down pattern

maybe a bit of wind-blow in the pattern of the spray letters,
perhaps a rainbow or glittering or silvery-metallic tone in the
letters of the spray

and then in the pool, the letters should be repeated (rather than mirrored)
so the word "spring" is seen twice but in the same colors.

or alternatively, a stream of water shooting out from some hillside rocks and flowing into a meandering stream where the bubbles in the stream spell out spring.



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 15 of 154: Wolf  (Wolf) * Mon, Mar  9, 1998 (10:01) * 1 lines
goodness, you really thought that one out! sounds neat

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 16 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  9, 1998 (10:50) * 2 lines
Great ideas, orange, and welcome to you as a first time poster!


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 17 of 154: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar  9, 1998 (15:53) * 1 lines
Wow orange, you really put a lot of thought into that, 'looks' beuatiful!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 18 of 154: orange  (orange) * Mon, Mar  9, 1998 (20:07) * 8 lines
well thanks, but i wouldnt be able to do the graphics at all, so if it helps your design artist, it is a small contribution.

but i also realized why the spring logo you have now, is using pale blue
and aqua -- so that it complements the light pastels on the topic button
faces and there is something to say for that kind of consistency because
i do like the grey pattern background and the buttons having different
colors (although some i have a hard time telling apart as to
color)---i think color is a faster way to blaze a trail than words.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 19 of 154: Wolf  (Wolf) * Mon, Mar  9, 1998 (21:47) * 3 lines
my god, orange, when did you pause to take a breath?

stacey, is there an echo in here *wink* (great minds think alike!)

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 20 of 154: orange  (orange) * Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (12:10) * 4 lines
oh i am just talking, not writing,
so i will start new lines when i take a breath
or use dashes
sentences are so hard when you dont capitalize

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 21 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (12:52) * 5 lines
There's somthing comforting to be about all lower case, and
something alarmist about all UPPER CASE. Which is one reason why
I plan to acquire ee cummings biography soon and why i love the
all lowercase website and emails that are so prevalent now.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 22 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (14:07) * 3 lines
How about the title in a totally wacky nouveau (sp.?) font? Avant-garde, nouveau...ya know what I mean - something really eye-catching?

[...searches font directory...]

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 23 of 154: orange  (orange) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (16:24) * 9 lines
i have found the spring color scheme very restful and also a perfect reflection of climate colors of very hot and very dry--those pale pastels are often how desert scenes are portrayed (only with more earthtones)

but yes, you do need a distinctive logo, some mark of identity
was over at znet yesterday and i liked their logo with the big red z

i think tying the name to the season, "spring" is limiting, and the coil of a metal spring too trivial---unless you could make something like a puppet or jester on a bouncing spring with a wand and a jester's or clownss face & hat.

but still i think the strongest and best symbolic logo is in the idea
of a water spring--perhaps that could be an abstract glyph

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 24 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (23:00) * 6 lines
good points.

One thing that I think is important; once you've decided on a name, as the Spring obviously has, you have to do the most dynamic thing with it you can.

I think a water spring is probably the best thing :)


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 25 of 154: Wolf  (Wolf) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (23:01) * 1 lines
what? no boing boing boing?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 26 of 154: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (16:49) * 1 lines
Yeah! Back to the wellspring idea!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 27 of 154: orange  (orange) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (14:04) * 1 lines
scribbled

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 28 of 154: gena  (zx6rider) * Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (18:39) * 3 lines
Well... you could always have a 'boing-boing' coming out of the fountain. A kind of water spout slinky thing....

I'm going now.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 29 of 154: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (21:23) * 1 lines
And cover the whole scene with a hairnet.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 30 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (00:38) * 3 lines
I know, I know, it's not what anyone has talked about,
but I think it kinda fits the personality...



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 31 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (03:43) * 4 lines
Now *that* I Like!!

I haven't had a go at a logo yet - perhaps I'll try today - woo hoo!! Way to go, WER! :)


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 32 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (08:46) * 8 lines
Wow! Great! Here's the deal, make one with splashing water
that says spring.
net

And I'll have it made in to a t shirt and give you one, wer.

I'm gassed.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 33 of 154: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (12:37) * 1 lines
I want one too!!!!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 34 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (14:37) * 2 lines
I'm working on putting the sun back in also, but look at



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 35 of 154: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (19:13) * 2 lines
groovy!
(had to go home to look at all the pics!)

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 36 of 154: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (19:57) * 1 lines
I think it's way too subtle.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 37 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (19:57) * 2 lines
Okay, got the sun back in



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 38 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (11:31) * 1 lines
Thanks for using .net wer!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 39 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (13:41) * 2 lines
No problem...is this more of what you had in mind?
If not, what else you want me to do to it?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 40 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (13:59) * 2 lines
I'm in text mode I'll take a look.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 41 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (14:03) * 2 lines
Great! I'll get it made into a t shirt when I get back!


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 42 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (15:06) * 1 lines
kewl...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 43 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Apr  1, 1998 (14:35) * 2 lines
i'm definitely gonna have a go, right now, tonight...watch this space...maybe I could get a t-shirt too... :)


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 44 of 154: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Apr  1, 1998 (21:37) * 1 lines
Save me one in a size medium! 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 45 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr  2, 1998 (19:39) * 1 lines
Go, Mike!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 46 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Apr  3, 1998 (17:28) * 6 lines
OK, I borrowed the water from WER, so full credit to him for that.

Here we go...




 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 47 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Apr  4, 1998 (01:36) * 2 lines
Couldn't do one from scratch, huh?
*wink*

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 48 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Apr  4, 1998 (03:55) * 2 lines
bah...the water was so good i decided to use it


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 49 of 154: Wolf  (Wolf) * Mon, Apr 27, 1998 (22:13) * 1 lines
ohmigosh, these are way cool!!!!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 50 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (09:18) * 6 lines
april 27 was the last entry here. oopsies.

i'm working on a whole set of new buttons/backdrops for the spring. i'll probably create a "dummy" copy of the spring on my site, with all of the new graphics so you can check them out and tell me what you think.

i think it's time to move on from what we've got, to be honest - it's a bit drab and dreary!


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 51 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (09:26) * 1 lines
Mike, please, please, please send me information on that stuff. And since you are hosting babes, could you please help me. I'm supposed to host Art, but have no idea about how to register myself as host. I've read the online guide, but it doesn't say how to register. I'd love to make the art conference a conference for everyone, a very visual thing which people will enjoy, not see as dry dreary old art fart. I need your veteran advice.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 52 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (11:47) * 9 lines
you'll have to get terry to set you up as host of Art. if you want a flashy conference banner like in Babes (inspiration drawn from Food, which is hosted by wer) then you'll need an image, first! then just a tiny bit of html code to include it in the banner and you're away!

right. my first version of a new-look spring is up at
http://www.griggs.demon.co.uk/spring/newlook/confmainpage.html
and
http://www.griggs.demon.co.uk/spring/newlook/response.html

this is obviously only beta, but please let me know what you think. i think the navigation buttons could do with some work, to be honest. seeing as i knocked up all 13 of them in two hours from scratch, they're fairly basic. anyways, let me know what you think.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 53 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (12:23) * 3 lines
Hey, Mike, have you taken a look in
food, restaurants, or genx lately?
What do you think?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 54 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (12:32) * 2 lines
i haven't. i shall now.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 55 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (17:17) * 6 lines
a totally different look for the index page.

hit http://www.griggs.demon.co.uk/spring/newlook/test.html

i really like the style of this. it'd be lovely to redo the whole place in this vein.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 56 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (17:24) * 1 lines
Very nice, Mike!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 57 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (17:37) * 3 lines
very slight change to make it a little more like what the "real thing" could be

hit http://www.griggs.demon.co.uk/spring/newlook/test.html 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 58 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (17:37) * 1 lines
cheers, riette :-)

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 59 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (23:45) * 3 lines
quite a major update to test.html. much more like a real login page, now

http://www.griggs.demon.co.uk/test.html

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 60 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (23:48) * 1 lines
404 not found error...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 61 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (23:55) * 2 lines
mike, you are one talented dude! (btw, how do i bring images to poetry? i mean,
where do i store them?)

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 62 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:00) * 1 lines
anywhere...not sure what you askin' Wolf...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 63 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:04) * 2 lines
ok, like at my site, for example, i save images to my directory (that was
created at the server) to use on the site. where do i send images to use here?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 64 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:05) * 2 lines
like, instead of saving them to my geocities directory then pulling them from
there in my html code to get the image to show up here (would be time-consuming)

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 65 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:09) * 3 lines
the easiest would be to e-mail them to me
and I'll put them in the directory
~spew/wolf

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 66 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:11) * 2 lines
well, if there's a directory for me, that's all i needed to know (btw, what's
the rest?) and will i need to ftp them?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 67 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:14) * 5 lines
no...you need to e-mail them to me so I can ftp them
or option two:
ask Terry for a telnet/homepage account so you can have access
or option three:
I can give you my name and password for ftp'n...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 68 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:17) * 6 lines
ok, i see what you're saying. i'll take option two.

terry: (feel like i'm buggin' you guys) would it be possible to set up a
telnet/homepage account so as i can begin the poetry conference transformation?
*hugs* (you guys have really been very helpful and patient) hey, how'd i get
this brown stuff on my nose *grin*

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 69 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:19) * 1 lines
okay...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 70 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:20) * 1 lines
aw now, don't sound so disappointed *smile*

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 71 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:23) * 1 lines
disappointed? nah, just glad I don't gotta turn over all my tricks yet...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 72 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:24) * 1 lines
*laugh*

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 73 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (01:39) * 14 lines
hello!!!
Still hanging in the air here. I've asked, but the addresses you guys send me to tell me what my powers are, not how to get myself set up. Have also mailed Terry, but nothing there. Aren't there like STEPS to follow? Like,

1 - press this and this button

2 - go here

3 - enter this . . .

4 - okay, you're set up?

I am an artist, i.e. moron. I work with my hands, the programmes are in my head, I don't work with this technology stuff, I don't know how computer's heads work, so I can't programme it. I have loads of ideas for art, but if it takes an expert to become a host, then I can forget about it now, 'cos I'm not.

HELP ME, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZE, somebody. Please show me how to do it by myself, because I don't want to pester other hosts the whole time. 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 74 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (05:59) * 5 lines
A discussion of hostly powers:

http://www.spring.net/help/host.html



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 75 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (08:35) * 8 lines
ack. i typed the last link wrong.

http://www.griggs.demon.co.uk/spring/newlook/test.html

sorry about that.

interesting host stuff, terry.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 76 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (16:48) * 3 lines
Very nice, Mike.

I read the host thing a few times, Terry, but it only says the (relatively) easy things. It doesn't say how to be creative with one's topic!!!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 77 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (19:43) * 3 lines
Thanks, Riette. Just trying my best n stuff.

how is the topic creativity coming along, Riette? I replied your email a couple of hours ago, I think. 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 78 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (03:42) * 1 lines
Oh, the creativity is fine, but I hope you'll have an answer about my technical skills at least by the time you read this, so we can pep Art up.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 79 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (09:52) * 2 lines
Mike did some creative things with babes, you might want to ask him for
details.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 80 of 154: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (11:36) * 2 lines

i wish i could do some creative things with babes.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 81 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (12:38) * 1 lines
You're probably doing fine there, otherwise I doubt if she would have said yes!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 82 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:42) * 2 lines
did we ever decide on a Spring logo? It would seem really important to have one. I'm putting together some Spring stuff for my website (including links from the Schiffer pages) and it seems a bit weird not to have a definite logo. what does anyone else think?


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 83 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:44) * 1 lines
Yes, Mike, do a definite logo. I will underline how proud we are of this place.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 84 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:47) * 6 lines
It, that is.
Blame it on the finger - know you know what I'm talking about.
Missing playing duets with Chris.
Should have thought of that before I jumped off the balcony
and got out that vegetable cutter though.
damn! 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 85 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (20:52) * 15 lines
ummm...how about:





or



or perhaps




opinions and crit welcome




 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 86 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (21:50) * 1 lines
i liked the second one, but can it be a bit smaller?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 87 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (21:51) * 1 lines
oh yeah, can anyone recommend a good graphics program?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 88 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (01:37) * 5 lines
I have Corel, but I can't figure out how to work it, so I just use the paint
programme that's in my computer anyway. Are there good and EASY graphic
programmes available?

I also like the second one, Mike. 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 89 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (05:58) * 10 lines
Lview Pro is good for starters and it's free. If you go to
http://cws.internet.com (Forrest's site, which we talk about in our apps
conference), you can read some great reviews of the various graphics
programs and website creation tools. Forrest's reviews lead to the
appropriate topic on this system in the apps conference.

Graphics isn't my stonrg suit, so others here may have more suggestions.
like Corel Draw, Photoshop, Illustrator, and Macromedia's stuff. Take a
look at http://www.macromedia.com for some stuff.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 90 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (05:58) * 2 lines
Slippage.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 91 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (20:31) * 2 lines
get photoshop. and get a good book on it. it's the best there is, and not impossible to learn. what did you think of the third one? i rather liked that, although the second one is ok too.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 92 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (21:41) * 1 lines
don't remember what the third one looked like, hang on....

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 93 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (21:43) * 3 lines
ok, the second one isn't as busy as the first and third ones. the face gets in
the way of the words on the third one, i mean, you're trying to peek around the
words to see the face. but the second one is still, by far, my fav.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 94 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (21:46) * 2 lines
okee


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 95 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (21:52) * 1 lines
has anyone else picked one? is the third your fav?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 96 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (21:58) * 6 lines
well. i do like the second one, but the third, i think, has more "personality". it's telling a bit of its own story (come to the spring, get ideas!), whereas the second is just a bit "pretty clip art and a bit of text"

dunno

i'll have to reduce them down in size to see which one compresses best


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 97 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (22:02) * 2 lines
hmmm...i think they're both inviting. once you get them the way you like, you
should post them and we can vote!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 98 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (22:07) * 1 lines
i think some other people should do some stuff, too. i don't pretend to be the spring artist by any stretch of the imagination

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 99 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (22:30) * 2 lines
well, maybe i'll come up with something as soon as i figure out my scanner (AND
get it hooked up) and believe me, i'm no artist!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 100 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (23:47) * 1 lines
does photoshop do vector graphics?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 101 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (23:50) * 3 lines
not really. better to get illustrator for that. illustrator+photoshop is the most fierce combination on the planet, and is what i aspire to.



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 102 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (23:58) * 2 lines
a fully functioning one that wasn't shareware or a demo would be fine
by me...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 103 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (00:02) * 2 lines
serious money


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 104 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (00:16) * 1 lines
i've got a vector program (shareware) but haven't figured it out yet.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 105 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (01:43) * 6 lines
I find that with advanced programmes like photoshop, everything is just too
'there' for my taste. I don't really feel particularly creative around those programmes. They have come up with just about any idea already, so then
I just don't bother - I just paste together some of their images and fonts.
I also prefer the more na�ve look, and an African feel, but that's only because that's the style I paint in. (Not very versatile, huh?!) Alot of black, and simple, but BRIGHT colours, and loads of them. So I don't think I'll inflict a Spring logo suggestion on you, Mike.
But I'll check out the one you recommended anyway,
Terry - might suit me better.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 106 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (19:08) * 4 lines
i've shrunk the second logo, to see what it looks like in a small version 





 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 107 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (19:43) * 1 lines
now i love that. can you make the background transparent?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 108 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:23) * 2 lines
not easily because of the anti-aliasing around the spring.net text. however, it's a photoshop file, which means that i can change the background colour to whatever i like, without harming the rest of the image, and then save a new copy out. not ideal, but then transparent GIFs are pretty crappy anyway.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 109 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (01:46) * 1 lines
Do that, and perhaps change the porche's colour to a nice pink colour or something to make it stand out better. But it's a nice logo.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 110 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (13:54) * 3 lines
or something along the lines of...



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 111 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (13:56) * 3 lines
ack...the green doesn't work on the chalk...it's okay, though
as you gets the idea...for a different version on a blue background,
go look at http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/news/all/new

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 112 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (15:42) * 2 lines
yup, nice. might be better if you don't make it a transparent GIF, though. that way, you can have whichever background colour is necessary, and anti-alias all of the text etc. to that background, which would make it look even better.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 113 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (16:02) * 1 lines
actually, it looks better against a background that looks like pool water...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 114 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (01:09) * 1 lines
REALLY cool, Wer. The sun thing is a great idea - it has alot of oomf.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 115 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (09:21) * 3 lines
or maybe...



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 116 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (09:32) * 4 lines
v. nice.

need to anti-alias the text, then it'd be perfect.


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 117 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (09:33) * 1 lines
( hi wer ) :)

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 118 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (09:34) * 2 lines
good morning...I'll have to anti-alias by hand one pixel at a time...
might take me a bit...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 119 of 154: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (09:36) * 1 lines
what is the name of the font? if you send me the necessary files, i can install the font and then anti-alias it in photoshop.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 120 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (10:18) * 1 lines
Mexicali...I'll install it on here somewhere so's you can download it at leisure...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 121 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (11:14) * 1 lines
Loverly!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 122 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (22:30) * 7 lines
Riette's first sketch for a Spring t-shirt design...
(colour copies coming soon...)



to view it in it's full size glory, go to
http://www.spring.net/~spew/art/rspring1.jpg

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 123 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (05:10) * 1 lines
FEEL FREE TO PROTEST PEOPLE!!!! 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 124 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (09:02) * 1 lines
I love it, it's so jungly, but I think we need a little water in it too.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 125 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (09:09) * 1 lines
I've been protesting people for years...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 126 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (10:58) * 6 lines
And what would your protest be today, muffin? Also missing the water?

Terry, I can't put water in this one - it simply doesn't work. Once Wer has posted the colour versions, I think you'll see why. In the first I did a blue background to suggest water, but that just pushed it that little bit too far. There was no subtlety or imagination left, and therefore it seemed kitchy and blunt. The colours started clashing, because it did not have a darker background to back it up. I don't want to split up the background into two or more colours either, because, again, the colour
will clash. The second version I did with slightly different colours, and a black background, and I thought the abundance in flora rather suggested the water and fertility, and the dark background just seemed to help all the colours fall into place better. And so i'm not putting in water - it would spoil this particular design. One could perhaps do the lettering and the little banner in blues, but I actually wanted it to flow from the branches of the tree. ANyway, I would do no more to suggest water
han that. But that is merely my opinion, and not the ultimate judgement.If you can't cope with it like this, then that's that- there is absolutely no reason why you HAVE to take it, because there have been plenty other really GOOD suggestions here; it is no more than a suggestion, and I'm sorry I haven't more time to devote to this right now - perhaps when I come back from England, I'll try something different with water, and we can see how that goes. But more than that I simply can't manage right now
too much other work to do with the exhibition coming up after the summer holidays. 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 127 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 4 lines
That's cool Riette. It's a gorgeous drawing and, if you have time when
you get back from Merry Old England, perhaps you could please us with a
watery image. When do you actually depart?


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 128 of 154: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 1 lines
Very nice, Riette! How long did that sketch take you??

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 129 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 3 lines
colour version number one...



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 130 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 4 lines
hmmm...
let's try that again...



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 131 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 4 lines
oh, good, in that case,
colour version 2 is



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 132 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 3 lines
ack...



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 133 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 3 lines
I'm leaving for England tonight, but I'll do something with water as soon as I get back, okay, Terry?

I really don't know how long it took, Autumn - twenty minutes, I guess. I don't really count. 

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 134 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (12:44) * 4 lines
have a safe trip and
see you when you get back...

do you mind if I give colouring it a whirl?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 135 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (05:23) * 2 lines
Sure, Wer, spank-it-roll-it-kiss-it-colour-it-pin-it-blow-it!
Thanks - I'll miss you all.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 136 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (08:52) * 1 lines
I love it Riette! Have a wonderful trip. I'll miss you!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 137 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Aug  5, 1998 (11:45) * 2 lines
Well, now you don't have to anymore.
Missed you too.

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 138 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (05:53) * 5 lines
and the newest entry is:



by the ever talented Riette...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 139 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (06:00) * 3 lines
hardly

By the ever cool and edgy Wer, that should read!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 140 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (06:02) * 2 lines
I'll take minor secondary assistance credit only...
you did the art!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 141 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (19:19) * 2 lines
It's a wonderful creative collaboration. I love this place!


 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 142 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (01:45) * 1 lines
SO DO I

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 143 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (09:31) * 2 lines
was this the one in oil? cuz it never came up on my puter (i got the graphic goes
here thing with an x in it). anyway, i luv it!

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 144 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (11:42) * 3 lines
and again...



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 145 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (11:59) * 4 lines
and a small logo for buttons and links back to here,
how about



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 146 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (17:06) * 1 lines
i likes that. who did the brushwork for the text?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 147 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (17:08) * 2 lines
Paint Shop Pro...
it's a font I gots installed on my computer...cool, huh?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 148 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (17:11) * 1 lines
yeah! i've gone out to free font sites but can't get them to download. any clues?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 149 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (17:14) * 3 lines
nope...I'm thinking about putting that one
up on here to download...we'll see if'n you
can download that one once I get it up...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 150 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (17:17) * 4 lines
thanks! oh, while i'm thinking about it, how does one go about aligning pics? let
me explain. ok, i've got two pics, two different sizes but i want to keep them
that way. i would like to be able to center the small one in relation to the larger
one and have them next to each other. how do i put that in code?

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 151 of 154: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (17:22) * 3 lines
I think, in the img tag use
valign="center" for each image...
otherwise, you can do it with tables...

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 152 of 154: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (18:46) * 1 lines
ok, i'll try the valign thing, not good with tables yet. thanks so much! *hugs*

 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 153 of 154: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (00:29) * 5 lines
Everything's good. And here's a hug for you wolfie:

What we need is something awesomely sensual, insanely great. Something that reaches out and electrifies you. Riette has it in her. I see the seed of greatness. 



 Topic 24 of 74 [porch]: Spring Logo - your ideas?
 Response 154 of 154: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (02:24) * 5 lines
Love that little button thing, Wer!!

Terry, careful. Feeling pain reading that - must be the ego growing. But thank you.


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