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Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (09:18) |
Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
What do you want to talk about today? What do you talk about on the
Spring and where do you go mostly? What do you like to talk about that we
don't talk about here?
356 responses total.
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Response 1 of 356: George Klos (osceola) * Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (12:28) * 1 lines
I want to know why I can never get into the "inner" conference. "Internal Server Error" always comes up on my screen. I don't know much about computers, so what's up, Terry?
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Response 2 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (13:42) * 4 lines
inner is a private conference run by wer. so you can only get into
it if you are on the list of authorized users.
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Response 3 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (21:09) * 2 lines
and yapp only has a couple of different error messages...
that one is the most common
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Response 4 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (06:18) * 2 lines
What wer said.
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Response 5 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (14:53) * 1 lines
ditto
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Response 6 of 356: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (20:21) * 1 lines
How ya doin', George?
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Response 7 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (05:37) * 12 lines
It's time to put out that plea again. I have shelled out about $800 plus
this month and I'm still lacking funds to pay for the domain name
austen.com and some others, send your contributions to:
The Spring
Rt 2 Box 56r
Cedar Creek, TX 78612
Make checks payable to The Spring.
Any help you can send this way will be *very* appreciated and the first
$70 received will go to rescue our austen.com domain name.
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Response 8 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (08:38) * 100 lines
I want to talk about our failure to make the Golden Pebble awards for
austin's best websites.
first, here are the winners, which we were not among
(hangs head in shame)
http://www.Astrofish.net -- The people have spoken and made this redneck
fisherman-astrological site numero uno and the winner of the "People's
Choice Pebble." Of course, my psychic abilities should have been able to
predict this outcome when I saw a bolded statement on the site directing
Astrofish surfers to e-mail me and let me know Astrofish.com is the best.
Astrofish, I look into my crystal ball and see a Golden Pebble coming your
way.
http://www.Internetv.com -- The "Funky Golden Pebble" goes to Rob
Campanell and
his new Internet production "Chemical Generation." In this "Real
World"-type drama, DJ Deepfrog chronicles his quest to bring his
hip-a-delic sound (Deepfrog Acid) to the world. It's waggle-your-hips
funky, with a "You've Got Mail!" love twist. Here's your Pebble, DJ
Deepfrog; why don't you take it for a spin?
http://www.FixExpress.com and www.Sulekha.com -- The "Best Site Duet
Pebble" goes
to Sangeeta Kshettry and Satya Prabhakar. FixExpress.com is a yummy,
one-stop info, trivia and humor site that boasts visitors from more than
100 countries. Sulekha.com is an excellent zine and literary community
boasting some excellent writing by inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent.
http://www.MikeJasper.com -- The "Angry Pebble" goes to Mike Jasper and
his
low-tech essay site. His spite, vengeance and cynicism made me laugh a lot
over the past year. Besides, he's the only one who took me out for a
burger after he appeared in my column. Congrats, Mike; next time, let's go
to the Four Seasons.
http://www.EthePeople.com -- When Austinite Alex Sheshunoff started a site
at
which you can contact local political officials via the Internet, it was
bound to make this list. On his site, you can e-mail politicos and gripe
about everything from impeachment to potholes. Alex, enjoy your "Power to
the People Pebble."
http://www.Unmall.com -- The "Buy This Pebble" goes to Unmall.com. It's
about
time someone linked Austin's great merchants and displayed them for the
world to peruse and enjoy. It's one long, 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week
Armadillo Christmas Bazaar.
Honorable mentions:
http://www.Dumbest.com -- Margaret Moser and Bill Crawford have put up a
site
devoted to their book "Rock Stars Do the Dumbest Things." If you're too
cheap to buy the book, this site will give you some good insight into rock
stars and the dumb things they do.
http://members.tripod.com/~poopunk/ -- An excellent e-zine by Ben Aqua. If
you've
forgotten what teen angst is all about, this site will remind you.
http://www.chrissy.com/store.html -- Kitsch shopping to the tune of Muzak
versions of "Here Comes the Sun" and "Downtown," this site boasts the best
place in town for Ladyhead vases (don't worry, I didn't know what they
were, either).
Send questions, comments, ideas, products, graft and fan mail to Gregory
Kallenberg at
gkallenberg@statesman.com or write him at P.O. Box 670,
Austin 78767.
Look at these websites and tell me why we didn't stack up and what we need
to do to make next years Golden Pebbles. We're just not insanely great
enough yet.
And if you feel we were left off and should have made the list, email
Gregory Kallenberg and tell him he screwed up, big time, by not listing
the Spring.
Just in case you missed his email address:
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Response 9 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (09:47) * 4 lines
its good to have these very specific goals for the Spring in mind. i am
still mentioning the spring to anyone who will listen!
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Response 10 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (14:21) * 2 lines
What do we need to do?
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Response 11 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (23:36) * 1 lines
If'n I knew, I'd be doing it...
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Response 12 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (05:43) * 14 lines
Have you looked at the golden pebble sites?
What are we doing that we're not doing? How can we get more folks here?
How can we improve our site?
Better navigation?
More features?
Is the webcam a total bust? Does anyone watch it? We stopped playing
videotapes all the time and we're half live and half taped now. And we
have live feeds coming from both houses.
What's it going to take?
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Response 13 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:53) * 2 lines
What Gregory needs is an impassioned rebuke in his email box from
ratthing. That would carry some weight!
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Response 14 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:56) * 4 lines
me? ok, i will!
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Response 15 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:00) * 1 lines
I just invited him to be a regulart participant here, as well...
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Response 16 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:11) * 1 lines
oooh a regulart!!!
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Response 17 of 356: wer (wer) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:15) * 2 lines
think I spelled it correctly in the e-mail, though...
(how many points do I lose for spelling, teach?)
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Response 18 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:29) * 1 lines
twas only a pre-test...
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Response 19 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:29) * 2 lines
regulart. None. Because it's a cool mispelling.
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Response 20 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:30) * 2 lines
Whup up on him a little, Stace.
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Response 21 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:32) * 1 lines
love your philosophy on that one Paul!
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Response 22 of 356: wer (wer) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:39) * 1 lines
especially if it describes a participant of Ree's conference...
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Response 23 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:51) * 1 lines
huh?
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Response 24 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:45) * 1 lines
regulart=chronic participant of the art conference...
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Response 25 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:46) * 6 lines
From Gregory Kallenberg:
"I thought soemone had bought the name. I'm glad you guys are still
around. Look for a mention in next week's column.
Gregory"
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Response 26 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (12:13) * 1 lines
ahhh... was he confused by the .net as we all temporarily were?
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Response 27 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (12:23) * 3 lines
seems so...
I e-mailed Mike Jasper and Ben Aqua and invited them to join, as well...
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Response 28 of 356: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (15:43) * 1 lines
Maybe they'll become regularts as well!
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Response 29 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (16:04) * 3 lines
ah ha! the old com to net trick again!
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Response 30 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (18:54) * 2 lines
Hey! I feel all warm and fuzzy!
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Response 31 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jan 21, 1999 (23:57) * 10 lines
Gregory Kallenberg's bit on the Spring in this week's XL ent,
as promised...
"www.Spring.net -- It seems a lot of fans of this tres cool Austin site
missed my call for the 2nd annual Golden Pebbles Awards (best local
sites). They are up in arms they weren't included. Well, guys, here's
Spring.net for all to click upon and bookmark. I hope you're happy."
all those who e-mailed him about not being included, please e-mail
him again and tell him thanks!
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Response 32 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (06:26) * 3 lines
Email thanks to mailto://gkallenberg@statesman.com
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Response 33 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (16:28) * 1 lines
wait a sec, they give out awards for these places? HELLO!! what can i do?
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Response 34 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (17:59) * 2 lines
recommend this place to anywhere you find that gives
web awards...what kind of specifics are you looking for, Wolf?
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Response 35 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (18:14) * 1 lines
*lol* is that the only way to get the word out? i'll go and submit this place to whomever...any specific type of awards we're limited to? or would anything do? and then we can have a trophy case somewhere!!
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Response 36 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (21:45) * 3 lines
go, Wolf, go!
submit, Wolf, submit!
win, Wolf, win!
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Response 37 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (09:01) * 3 lines
Alright, it could be at http://www.spring.net/awards
cool!
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Response 38 of 356: wer (wer) * Sun, Feb 7, 1999 (13:11) * 1 lines
I want to talk about nothing in particular...
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Response 39 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sun, Feb 7, 1999 (22:27) * 1 lines
and it seems that everyone else felt the same way...
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Response 40 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (06:11) * 6 lines
I'd like to talk to Roan today in the farm conference about his incredible
conspiracy theory regarding the Farm. I usually find it hard to believe
paranoid conspiracy theories, but Roan provides some pretty convincing
statements about some actual experiences he had. I'd be interested in what
other folks think of his very "out there" thesis on how the Farm was
underminded by "black ops".
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Response 41 of 356: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (03:09) * 5 lines
Hey
Any good raves going on in Austin as of late?
Mike aka _cosmo_
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Response 42 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (02:05) * 2 lines
Haven't heard of any, but I'll check on it.
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Response 43 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Feb 11, 1999 (16:01) * 1 lines
unfortunately(?), cosmo, I don't hang around that crowd anymore...
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Response 44 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (00:07) * 1 lines
I'm getting old...*sniff*
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Response 45 of 356: wer (wer) * Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (23:03) * 3 lines
what do ya'll think about the Thought of the day thingy I got up
in here?
the guy who does those lives in Austin...
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Response 46 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Tue, Feb 23, 1999 (10:52) * 1 lines
What is the thingy in question? I see no thingy.
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Response 47 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Feb 23, 1999 (11:31) * 1 lines
the thingy over in the right hand corner that looks like a box with "Thought for the day" in it?!?!?
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Response 48 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:28) * 1 lines
or, any other thingy you see and want to comment on, Autumn...
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Response 49 of 356: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:46) * 7 lines
hey... just out of curiosity...what is the
reason for the intermittent feb7,2036 date
thing?
(it is definitely marked in my calendar)...
(and i hadn't noticed the thought of the day
thingy, but am determined to search it out presently)
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Response 50 of 356: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:50) * 7 lines
have done so and...
and...
they are even better than fortune cookies
(which are usually the sources of my thoughts of the day)
(such as they are)
i like em
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Response 51 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:46) * 1 lines
Where is this f*(#@^! thingy????
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Response 52 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (21:33) * 3 lines
on
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/browse/porch/all/new
right beside the description of the conference...
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Response 53 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (21:32) * 1 lines
Aha! It is on the porch main page! I thought it was supposed to be in the upper right hand corner of this topic. Today's reminds me of those motivational posters in my husband's office.
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Response 54 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (23:13) * 1 lines
sorry we confused you...
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Response 55 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (15:32) * 7 lines
"We should abolish January and February. If we then divided the 59 extra
days between July and August, we will cut out energy needs by about one-
third through eliminating the coldest days of the year. Cold is largely
a psychological matter. If people look at the calendar and see that it is
July, they will be quite happy to turn the heat down."
--John Galbraith, Ohio state representative
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Response 56 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (15:44) * 1 lines
*grin*
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Response 57 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (18:12) * 1 lines
Isn't he a famous economist?
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Response 58 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (19:31) * 1 lines
I wanna know what's up with the new quarters!!!
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Response 59 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (20:45) * 1 lines
Don't you like the Delaware ones? The tooth fairy thinks they're great! She can't wait for the other 49 to be issued.
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Response 60 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (22:07) * 2 lines
No, I was serious...hadn't heard anything about them until I found
one in my pocket...still don't know what's going on...
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Response 61 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (14:40) * 1 lines
They're reminting the quarter in all 50 states (in order of when they joined the union).
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Response 62 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (23:10) * 1 lines
thanks!!!!!!!
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Response 63 of 356: wer (wer) * Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (23:47) * 3 lines
why, I want to talk about the today conference, of course!
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/today/all
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Response 64 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (19:13) * 2 lines
yippee...been talking to everyone on here the last couple
of days, although the boss has been somewhat absent...
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Response 65 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Apr 9, 1999 (12:57) * 1 lines
you chatterbox, you!
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Response 66 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr 9, 1999 (13:27) * 1 lines
*sticking out tongue at you*
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Response 67 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:18) * 6 lines
I want to talk about what a dweeb I am..
cuz I was having problems with my browser mail, so I changed the mail server to www.spring.net so I could send out some mail from there
And how all my www.spring.net mail (that I usually access through Telnet (pine) jumped over onto my browser mail. And how I deleted it all because I didn't want it in both places and then how when I logged in and went to pin I had NO MAIL in my account (cuz it all was in my browser mail (that I deleted))...
Then I want to hang my head in shame and ask "how in the hell do I put it all back???" (It's still in my browsers trash folder...)
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Response 68 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:28) * 2 lines
does that folder work like the recycle bin and let you re-install
instead of finishing deleting?
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Response 69 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:29) * 1 lines
if not, you ought to be able to put it back through explorer...
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Response 70 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (15:41) * 20 lines
what happened, stacey, is that when your browser email client went to
talk to www.spring.net, it talked with both the POP server and SMTP
server. it was the POP server who grabbed your mail off the server and
fed it to your browser, then deleted it off the server.
the only way to get it back to the www.spring.net server is to email it back
to www.spring.net. you should be able to do that from the deleted items
folder.
in your browser email package, there should be an option somewhere called
"leave mail on server" or something like that. if you check this option,
then the email your browser reads off the server will not be deleted, and
will be there for you if you ever telnet in and use pine.
also, unless you are connected directly to the Spring, you cannot use
your browser's email client to send email. the SMTP server on www.spring.net
does not accept mail from domains other than spring.net.
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Response 71 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (15:56) * 1 lines
Thanks!
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Response 72 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (00:20) * 1 lines
your post explains problems I've been having as well, Ray...
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Response 73 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (05:53) * 1 lines
But none of mine. Ray, what's my problem, anyway?
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Response 74 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (13:16) * 9 lines
hmmm. let's see. appears to have something to do with monkeys and
large breasts, but i'm not certain....
let me check the log files, alexander, and get back to you...
;)
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Response 75 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (23:43) * 1 lines
this post of yours, Ray, also explains problems I've been having...
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Response 76 of 356: Leplep le Plep (jgross) * Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (04:31) * 15 lines
this post of yours, Ray, also explains problems I've been having
i can now meet people
i have no anxiety about it --- it happens with irresistible mystery and charm
rheumatoid arthritis left my body
i'm 28 again, feel fit as a fiddle, feel oompah and voila and viola as a violin
when i fart, the blap is music to everyone's ears (as well as being a tremendous relief for me)
my entire mind is at perfect ease and likes to fiddle faddle with my heart and make it crack up and be in stitches until it howls and spins on its butt
i'll walk around the yard and even the people of Scotland can feel my footsteps with uncanny sensitivity and bursting love
children's voices light my way in the dark and i can run my fingers over where those concealed corners are in the entrance hall of her emotions (i'm talkin' of this new friend who lives so much human content, the trace of a desire is right now licking the outside of that blue cadillac she likes to drive off the 12th floor of Hotel Vertigo and land sweet and soft with exuberant acceleration in the driveway of wide-open romance)
i have so much clarity now, i can link instincts with the center of the collective unconscious and purr deeply original forces that bunch up in simple pure soul release
my ego has hung it up, exited, it's gone --- it made a filthy corpse, the soil is littered with its severed flesh, its sexual insecurities, its sweaty bank statements
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Response 77 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:37) * 3 lines
jim, you da man. i hope you are feeling as great as you write.
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Response 78 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:58) * 4 lines
he actually feels better if you touch him in the
correct sub-continents during the supraproday sale
phase of the moon in tempo with his tertiary
time and phone line...
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Response 79 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (10:08) * 9 lines
uh oh...
Jim, are those wildflowers blooming in your living room or what?!?!
Glad you're feeling so groovy.
What did it?
Coffee, sex, Jah's given up the pea gravel?
Or did the residents of 37th street turn on those lights a little earlier than expected? That'd get me going too!
Trying skating down the street next time you go... it's okay. The cras can't travel quickly so there's very little danger of being hit (oops, that was "cars" not cras)
Anyway... back to the original point.
Glad yer feeling so good... could you share some with WER next time you've reached a surplus?
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Response 80 of 356: Leplep le Plep (jgross) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (13:54) * 13 lines
it only feels good in being a writing (it was just fun to write, to do that)
it's so obviously surreal
i can feel totally depressed otherwise while writing something like that
depressed isn't the write word, but the word would be something kinda negative
but that particular time i actually was otherwise happening to be feeling basically ok
but it didn't have anything to do with *what* i was writing
that's just something about me
and it's probably what any of you might've been figuring was the case with me?
that what's said in the writing and what I'm actually feeling otherwise in my life are 2 different things, or can be?
explanations do help sometimes.....was this not helpful, though?
am i sounding like i'm misinterpreting or taking things too seriously or being dense or do i seem, say, uh, pretty distrustful as far as being sincere or having much interpersonal integrity, stuff like that?
i wonder about myself....i worry about myself
a mess.....ok ok
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Response 81 of 356: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (15:27) * 1 lines
sometimes I wonder Jim. Not in a bad way...please don't misinterpret that! But sometimes the things you write just make me think..."Um...did I miss something?". But again, don't think that in a bad way - a failure on my part not yours!
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Response 82 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (15:57) * 2 lines
I had so much to say...
that it only came out as a smile.
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Response 83 of 356: Leplep le Plep (jgross) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:18) * 34 lines
with me and writing, i go for the impulse
the impulse could be meaning to do anything with me
it usually heads for humor and free associating and certain strong real touches of human truth mixed into that
i don't know what it's about except right as it's coming out of me
it's not very directed
there's a different kind of control going on
not so much conscious, but some.....there's some conscious direction
but it's a real blend of conscious and submodalities of consciousness
i do notice there is some belittling going on in my writing
not in Response 76 (this topic), though
i can see that my humor can miscommunicate
it's working with stranger than usual variables (image-wise) --- that's a handful
but there is a certain amount of lack of integrity going on at odd moments
i'm putting some energy into growing, growth, development, as a person, i guess
by taking a closer look at how that insincerity aspect actually feels to me as
i look it over and look it over and look it over and see it and see it
i experiment with words, it's highly experimental
it's very weird being in the center of it
sorta has a mind of its own
but i can listen in better, by touching closer in on the spirit of it
the orientation it seems to be coming from
it's actually possible to hear clearly
and it's possible to just not to hear
i'm seeing if i can hear better
it's real work
i sometimes worry about losing the impulse when i listen in to the sincerity of it, but i'm wondering that it may be not such a worry, that the impulse doesn't
necessarily fall down from being listened in to its sincerity, its voice, its orientation, spirit, etc.
it's funny (or absurd?) to consider that there can be an amazing amount of mischievousness going on at the heart of sincerity, integrity
it has to do with the pulse of change
which is giving life its life, or living the life in life.
anyone know? this make a little sense?
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Response 84 of 356: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:25) * 3 lines
submodalities is a *great* word, stacey! :)
i like your idea that impulse doesn't necessarily fall down from being subjected to some kind of critique - of being "listened to" as you put it. i'm not sure if i completely agree with the idea, at least on a personal level (for me, that is), but it's an teresting idea. i have always found that the best impulse is, to use the Spring analogy, just typed out and then sent, with no re-reading. however, as we haev all seen, too much impulse can be a negative thing as well as positive.
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Response 85 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:41) * 3 lines
and I was bitten by the bug...
at first my response was different... much different
I did not submit it but did send it on
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Response 86 of 356: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:42) * 1 lines
hmm?? non comprende :)
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Response 87 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:43) * 1 lines
I was answering your non-question regarding impulsive posting, Mike.
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Response 88 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (08:26) * 1 lines
Hmh, I like looking at Jim's postings. They look so dynamic.
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Response 89 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (00:16) * 1 lines
Yeah, he's amazing.
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Response 90 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (22:28) * 1 lines
my WORD, Jeeves...astounding! ;)
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Response 91 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (23:44) * 1 lines
Does this mean your computer lives again, Annette?
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Response 92 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (04:15) * 1 lines
(what, no insomniacs up tonight?!?!)
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Response 93 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (05:00) * 1 lines
(me, but it's already 9:49 am over here. Good morning, Wer, how are you today?)
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Response 94 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (11:30) * 1 lines
awake again, how are you?
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Response 95 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (09:02) * 1 lines
Busy. Hacking all these cd titles in a spread sheet, 'coz we hand the lot over to our authors today (and it's mighty useful to know who got what from which label...). Already behind on schedule, it's 14:45 and we meet at 17:00 in FFM. See ya!
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Response 96 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (03:24) * 6 lines
And has that been a good meeting! Great cappucino, too! There were us three publishers (two double as editors, one as direct distribution/subscription branch), the ad sales branch, four authors (a new one, too - looking forward to see how that works out, but he has some great ideas and interesting connections; hope his writing is up to it, too...) and a layouter/writer.
Lots of feedback on #12, I gave an overview on planned stuff for #13, fixed dates, extended personal deadlines (for contributions, not contributors, mind you) and deal out serious CDs! Guess more'n 50 out for reviews... Some great stuff, too, Also some lame... As usual.
I felt really great when I got back. They care! They contribute! We're all happy bunnies!
Now I just got to find a legal way to get hold of some more carrots...
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Response 97 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (22:30) * 1 lines
Wow, all that over a cappucino?
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Response 98 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (09:58) * 1 lines
Had a glass of water, too, to be honest.
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Response 99 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (10:39) * 4 lines
How's this for karma; a month or so ago, robbers broke into my house and stole my bass guitar, stereo, 2 VCRs, a flute, and most of my CDs and other assorted personals, including my address book and "scratchbook" for all of my internet goings-ons. That brought me down to my computer and tv for entertainment, ok? Last night, lightning finished off the tv and satellite reciever...now; I am down to my computer for entertainment, which I managed to have unplugged before the storm. Does anyone think I might sh
uld be recieving some kind of...er...message from all of this? (ROTF!)
-Humored but holding my breath...:)
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Response 100 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (11:46) * 1 lines
Stop dancing with cross-dressing Texans?
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Response 101 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (20:54) * 1 lines
Are you still living on the Farm, Annette? (Has anyone stolen your library card yet? That may be all you have left in the way of entertainment!)
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Response 102 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (01:18) * 1 lines
quick...post your snail mail address!!!
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Response 103 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (06:53) * 1 lines
Annette, how good's your German? What bass did you have?
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Response 104 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (10:26) * 4 lines
My German is as limited as my good luck, Alexander...;) I had a Peavey Foundation bass. But, next week, I am going to purchase a Ibanez GSR100.
Can't spend summer without a bass...too many good gigs happening. Everything else can wait...Hey, I still have YOU guys...right?
(Shhhhhhh...guess I'd better not say that TOO loud, huh?)
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Response 105 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (10:37) * 1 lines
(So you have some luck - got some German to? What do you play?)
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Response 106 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Sat, May 1, 1999 (11:30) * 1 lines
Mostly the blues. Rock (the older stuff) finds it's way in, too. We do a lot of SRV and Eric Clapton, quite a lot of Motown stuff...right now, we're "re-organizing". (I like that word!;) ) The lead guitarist and lead singer were married, and, recently divorced, (typical story, hmm?) so, we're shuffling around for another lead guitarist. It will come together, but, it just takes time to get the right chemistry.
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Response 107 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, May 3, 1999 (08:13) * 1 lines
Did you keep the guy or the gal?
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Response 108 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, May 6, 1999 (12:06) * 1 lines
(Probably just kept the dog and the ole Pick-up truck...)
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Response 109 of 356: Autumn (autumn) * Thu, May 6, 1999 (13:20) * 3 lines
Aarrgh!! My hard drive has to be replaced!
Help! I'm stranded in the sea of losers in the library...
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Response 110 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, May 6, 1999 (14:18) * 2 lines
woo woo!
Autumn's hanging out with the bookworms!
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Response 111 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Thu, May 6, 1999 (23:08) * 4 lines
Autumn, pitch me one of those Poe classics over there, please...:)
(BTW, I moved from The Farm back to Hohenwald...couldn't stand the cold in that cabin!)
Alexander, we kept the gal. The guy needed to move on into some other aspects of his music career, and, well, I think we were just holding him back from branching out when he needed to. He and his ex didn't really needed to get away from each other, anyway.
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Response 112 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Thu, May 6, 1999 (23:10) * 3 lines
...DID really need to get away from each other...
Jeez...it's late...brain is going mush...(mushier)
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Response 113 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, May 9, 1999 (12:05) * 5 lines
Oh. But I DO like mushy brains! So the guy needed to branch out, huh? Sounds like opening franchises was why they split...
So: Who kept the dog and the pick-up? I guess he took that great vintage amp, too,...
(More in Music Conf/Record Collecting topic...)
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Response 114 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, May 12, 1999 (17:49) * 2 lines
HEY!!!!
I wanna talk about why the hell the 'what I ate today topic is frozen and who's gonna unfreeze it so's I can go on and on about all the good stuff I ate today!
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Response 115 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, May 12, 1999 (18:18) * 2 lines
did I freeze the wrong one?
oops...
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Response 116 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, May 13, 1999 (11:48) * 2 lines
phew...
now I feel less silly... you froze the wrong one!!!
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Response 117 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 13, 1999 (15:07) * 1 lines
no I didn't...
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Response 118 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, May 13, 1999 (16:53) * 1 lines
yep, you did!
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Response 119 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 13, 1999 (17:04) * 1 lines
no I didn't...
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Response 120 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Fri, May 14, 1999 (06:51) * 3 lines
Bet you did...
Alexander, SHE got the dog...HE got the pick-up. :)
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Response 121 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, May 14, 1999 (16:30) * 1 lines
he did Annette
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Response 122 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, May 14, 1999 (16:48) * 1 lines
He did Annette AND got the pick-up? Wow. Nowwaitaminute - whatareyoutellinme?
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Response 123 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, May 17, 1999 (10:09) * 2 lines
wouldn't matter Alexander...
you wouldn't think about it anyway and what's the fun in that?!?!
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Response 124 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 18, 1999 (07:03) * 1 lines
;=}
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Response 125 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 18, 1999 (10:04) * 5 lines
Yes, but there's more to being than mere thinking. How about feeling, guessing, imagining, the whole nonintellectual apparatus? Works ok for me, way better than ratio-only, hardcore thinking approaches ever did.
Bear with me. Just because I'm not so hot on intellectualism and indifferent brainism doesn't mean I've got no game going. Maybe I work with a different technique, but nevertheless I try, and try as good as any other.
(Though admittedly trying sometimes *is* quite the trial... but that's the same for smart thinkers, too.)
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Response 126 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, May 18, 1999 (11:59) * 3 lines
just teasing you Alexander!
gotta point out the discrepancy though...
your posts certainly lend the reader to believe you are quite the intellectual thinker...
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Response 127 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 18, 1999 (12:09) * 1 lines
...wrong. I'm through with that. Ignorance is bliss.
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Response 128 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, May 18, 1999 (13:56) * 6 lines
worng...
but if you insist on being ignorant to the truth...
so be it!
(just being argumentative of course but in reality i don't believe that ignorance is preferable to knowledge... on much of anything...)
.ok
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Response 129 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 18, 1999 (16:35) * 3 lines
There is no truth. There are only opinions. Knowledge is a burden that's not always easy to bear; even more seldom is it appreciated by others.
Ignorance is not the opposite to open-mindedness; ignorance is the opposite to itself. Ignorance is the perfect chance for growth.
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Response 130 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, May 18, 1999 (16:41) * 1 lines
then Ignorance is potential and not necessarily bliss...
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Response 131 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, May 19, 1999 (02:46) * 7 lines
Ignorance is bliss. Knowledge is competitive and segregates again in haves and have-nots. Makes people feel alienated from each other, even offended.
Few people are offended by ignorance.
(Mind you, my dears, we're not talking stupidity. That's a different topic, along with narrow-mindedness and prejudices and smart-assing and holier-than-thouing. File ignornace beside amateurism - who still love what they do -, and dilettantism, where everything is just play and fun. Maybe the three capital virtues - ignorance, amateurism, dilettantism.)
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Response 132 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, May 19, 1999 (08:05) * 2 lines
I don't know that I'd want that on my resume...
William is an ignorant, amateur dilettante...
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Response 133 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, May 19, 1999 (10:13) * 6 lines
actually i AM offended by ignorance.
racial and ethic and religious prejudices often (USUALLY) stem from ignorance... the majority of frustration in my work and the majority of accidents that happen in our facilities stem from ignorance -- learned or otherwise...
I truly believe ignorance (especially intended) is a liability in most cases.
I certainly see degrees and topics that one might choose, for his/her own self-preservation to be ignorant of...
Sometimes when you ARE informed and have taken the time to be thought out on a topic, life is even more fun
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Response 134 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, May 19, 1999 (15:41) * 2 lines
Stacey, such stupidity is truly an awful thing. But I mean something different by ignorance, and again, it it a language and cultural barrier, limiting my means to express my feelings.
Also, I realise that my position on things has much to do with the life I've lead up to now, which I lived and nobody else.
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Response 135 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, May 19, 1999 (17:18) * 3 lines
So, Stace, does my ignorance truly offend you? Or is it just that you are afraid that you would have to fit me into the categories where you got those people you think "ignorant" filed?
Both would be sad, because unnecessary ("No need to kick a man who's down."), plus we got along great until I mentioned this absurd idea of mine, but it would be fun, though, or rather: fascinating to see how me being like this - trying not to get people blow up at me, and be really cooperative and accessible - would achieve opposite effects.
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Response 136 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, May 19, 1999 (18:44) * 9 lines
first of all I don't believe you're truly ignorant.
I believe you are probably more informed than most and therefore would like to plead and/or be ignorant because the alternative is too complicated.
You do not offend me.
Truly ignorant people (who have no desire to improve on that situation and who in their ignorance misjudge things/people/ideas (yadda yadda yadda)) offend me frequently.
Certainly not by their mere existence but in their apathy.
The disintegration of society's as the world pnce knew them has a lot to do with this apathy IMHO. People would rather not know than know and feel compelled to at a minimum care if not contribute to a solution...
BTW, please never misconstrue my getting all heated about a topic/idea/subject as something angry or personal against the speaker "poster"... when I am truly pissed all shall know!!!
*smile*
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Response 137 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, May 19, 1999 (23:40) * 1 lines
because she'll SAY SO...
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Response 138 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (09:25) * 1 lines
... she does, huh? What do you say?
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Response 139 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:37) * 1 lines
that depends...
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Response 140 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:44) * 1 lines
...?
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Response 141 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:46) * 1 lines
precisely!!!
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Response 142 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (13:28) * 1 lines
A-hem!
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Response 143 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (13:48) * 1 lines
A-dress!
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Response 144 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (15:57) * 1 lines
A-line!
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Response 145 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (18:11) * 1 lines
A-nother?
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Response 146 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (18:28) * 1 lines
what's a 'nother'?
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Response 147 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (19:29) * 1 lines
that's over...who one?
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Response 148 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, May 22, 1999 (11:36) * 1 lines
Me two.
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Response 149 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, May 24, 1999 (09:19) * 1 lines
you eight it!!!
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Response 150 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (09:42) * 1 lines
10ding the garden again, Stace?
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Response 151 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:02) * 6 lines
cute!
yep sure am.
it's just 2 rainy today though
.ok
damn
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Response 152 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:06) * 1 lines
So, no birds in the 3s?
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Response 153 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:48) * 2 lines
*laugh*
nope they fell on the 4.
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Response 154 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (11:04) * 1 lines
Hmh, ice-cream - a nice big c1.
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Response 155 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (17:24) * 5 lines
ooooh, my....all this over a pickup truck?
(*snicker)
...interesting enough....;-)
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Response 156 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingskye) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (17:26) * 1 lines
ice cream...double c.....mmmmmmmm.
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Response 157 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, May 27, 1999 (02:51) * 6 lines
Well, Annette, what could I do?
Feel like responding to # 121 ff. (Stacey hinted at something...), or check into http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/music/67.68
and tell us how they split up the record collection? I'm also curious - who got the amps?
So, while we all have a nice big c1 - or double c1 -, would you tell me?
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Response 158 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, May 27, 1999 (10:16) * 2 lines
how come i cannot get audio with the "echo juliet" slides??
is this from the capezeyz show?
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Response 159 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:51) * 1 lines
did you ever get your sound?
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Response 160 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (13:33) * 6 lines
What I never got was any of you jokers to explain to me
how to put images into a reply.
I would very much appreciate it if somebody - even perhaps one of the more dignified entities floating around here - WOULD PLEASE TELL ME!
Well, I want to post the cover of our #13 into the superstar topic.
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Response 161 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (15:39) * 2 lines
tonight...I promise...gotta go do a command performance at
Little Italy in a few moments...
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Response 162 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (01:03) * 17 lines
Okay, Alexander:
Got your default.htm page so that all the graphics work,
and the top two links across the top to work...also made
a copy of it called index.html so that any of these
will work for the url...
http://www.spring.net/~aschuth/
http://www.spring.net/~aschuth/index.html
http://www.spring.net/~aschuth/default.htm
posted the cover up in the superstar topic,
so go in and do a view source and you'll
see the correct code for that particular
picture...
(I'm gonna get credit in your mag for grunt webwork, right?
it would look really cool on my resume...hehe...)
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Response 163 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (12:58) * 1 lines
(Yeah, we'll get that figured, mate - still, get back to me on the merchandise issue...)
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Response 164 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:03) * 1 lines
(Ok, as soon as I got my harddisk restored I'll download all that and work further on updating it... Still not in shape to publish it, like lots of old addresses around, no new content + images, concert schedules, etc.)
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Response 165 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:30) * 1 lines
understood...
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Response 166 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (12:35) * 6 lines
take the Austin Powers Personality Quiz, baby!
http://www.careerpath.com/ows-bin/editorial.cgi/special/cpapquiz.htm?style=cp
I turned out to be the Man Himself, Austin Powers!
Smashing, love! You've made a match with the international man of mystery. You have a talent for mixing�work with pleasure, cocktails with spying�but you always accomplish your mission, no matter the obstacle. Or obstacles. Oh, behave! You're a man in psychedelic motion and recruited constantly. We won't talk about what for. Freelance consulting is the ideal career for you, allowing you the freedom to swing from one assignment to the other. Yeah, baby!
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Response 167 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (15:53) * 1 lines
Just what I said. Why don't you listen to us here, but to some stupid quiz, baby?
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Response 168 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (00:09) * 1 lines
cuz I can't afford the meds?
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Response 169 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (10:15) * 5 lines
Oh, what meds? Get down to it, honey - this is all natural goodness, bright sunshine and honest excitement.
(*yawn*)
Most of the times, at least... Basically, it's really good for you!
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Response 170 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (12:16) * 2 lines
the Spring as a whole,
or listening to you guys?
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Response 171 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:14) * 4 lines
"natural goodness, bright sunshine and honest excitement" is, sweety, what do you think?
We folks don't always qualify for that, let's be honest, so go for a walk outside and watch a butterfly...
(*walking off into the sunset, flowers in my hair + no sandals on my feet*)
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Response 172 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:16) * 1 lines
Or forget about my crap, ignore the med-item (something serious or just prozac?), and hack away!
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Response 173 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:23) * 1 lines
i'll forget about your crap...
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Response 174 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:28) * 1 lines
...happy to hear that!
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Response 175 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:37) * 1 lines
how's the knee?
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Response 176 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:53) * 1 lines
Itchin'?
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Response 177 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:55) * 1 lines
are you asking me or telling me?
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Response 178 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (11:37) * 6 lines
Yeah. Huh, you're itchin to know, aren't ya?
Wouldn't tell you, just to work up some suspense in your life...
Naw, I spill it. This suspense-building thing only wrecks my nerves. Yeah, guess you are itching to know, and I'm itching to itch. &%$%�!-M�ckenstich!
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Response 179 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (13:14) * 1 lines
and may I ask WHY are your knees itching?
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Response 180 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (13:18) * 3 lines
Fungus? Athritis? Watch that, girl - you'll become as nosy as me!
Just a M�ckenstich. No biggie, just itchy...
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Response 181 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (22:00) * 1 lines
hey, is it just me or has anybody else noticed that the ad on the spring cam is for the Jaguars and they're using a picture of a cheetah?
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Response 182 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (22:08) * 1 lines
and I thought it was an ocelot...
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Response 183 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (22:10) * 1 lines
no, sweetie, didja see the black tear line from the cat's eye to his cheek? i wouldn't want to sign up with them to cheer or play football if they can't tell the difference between a jaguar and a cheetah.....
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Response 184 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (00:28) * 1 lines
just teasin', Wolf, but my, you sure know your competition...
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Response 185 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (03:29) * 1 lines
"it's canine vs feline here on this wonderful sunday morn' at the SPRING stadium..."
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Response 186 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (10:36) * 1 lines
*grin* survival of the fittest, my dear!!
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Response 187 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (15:17) * 8 lines
Mark me dead meat then.
But, hey, can I bring allies?
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Response 188 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (18:28) * 1 lines
...just took a vote...Sure you can! Anything I can do to help?
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Response 189 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Jul 26, 1999 (12:13) * 2 lines
... sharpen your teeth and claws methinks!
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Response 190 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (20:24) * 1 lines
*big wolfy toothy grin*
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Response 191 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (22:33) * 3 lines
sorry to interupt...
just came in from watching the shuttle fly over
on re-entry...
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Response 192 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (09:37) * 2 lines
woo woo!
when I was a little girl in SA the shuttle used to piggyback into Kelly right over our backyard...
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Response 193 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (20:21) * 1 lines
wasn't that cool!! i got pictures and if they came out good, i'll post them.
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Response 194 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (20:57) * 1 lines
Please do post them. This is the first shuttle mission I have not have full screen nasa tv on nor checked the orbits to see when we could see it. It has been visible several times that I have looked, but it must have been much closer for you if it was coming in for a landing. Fantastic. I am thrilled for y'all!
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Response 195 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (21:01) * 1 lines
Hope you guys have good memories because I expect a full color sketch if your pictures did not come out well.
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Response 196 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (18:55) * 1 lines
*lol*
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Response 197 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Aug 3, 1999 (11:49) * 1 lines
I think I might be artistic enough to pull that one off...
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Response 198 of 356: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (21:33) * 1 lines
but then again...
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Response 199 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (22:38) * 1 lines
....(getting out my knitting and finding a soft place on the grass)....I'll wait...just don't forget, please!
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Response 200 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (11:10) * 7 lines
Re: Response 187
I know what ally I'm looking for, should I ever be in such a mess. In South China exists a small sort of wild cat (possibly called Biao), that does the most amazing thing for fun, which qualifies the kitty for major ally-materiel.
You know how everybody says everything animals do is just driven by needs and urges, like to feed, etc.? Wrong. This krazy kat knows how to have a good time. When it is bored - say, it's Saturday night, it's in the middle of a South Chinese jungle, beer is out and the movie sucked - it positively
JUMPS OM THE BACK OF A TIGER AND PUTS THEM CLAWS TO WORK ON THE TIGERS BUTT !
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Response 201 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:25) * 3 lines
So, y'all are not impressed? Well, I was, when I found this in the english edition of a chinese People's Army general's commentary of Master Sun's Art of War (at last a commentary on the military virtues and errors, not all that economic and management blab you usually get from the Western authors).
Imagine, a cutie l'il kitty, RIDIN' DA TIGER!
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Response 202 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (18:38) * 3 lines
Oh, Yes, indeed I am impressed...I would like that kitty on my side. The
very fact that they are not extinct speaks of their success in this enterprise
Must check this out. Clever little devils, are they not!
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Response 203 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (21:39) * 1 lines
Who are Austin 360 (our competition?!) and why are we not listed in their Web Directory of Communities Online?
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Response 204 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (21:47) * 1 lines
I am still sitting on the soft grass from long time ago waiting to see the shuttle flyover. You promised...!
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Response 205 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (19:09) * 2 lines
Couldn't resist *grin*
PENN STATE 41 ARIZONA 7
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Response 206 of 356: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (23:49) * 1 lines
That's the second site I've seen this embarrassment for Dick Tomey and all the players he took from Hawaii on...how many others are there? Hmmmm...
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Response 207 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (23:51) * 1 lines
Just the one in Geo and the one on my Screwed topic, where I just put your Texas story. It was the beginning of what started out to be a happy day but is now ashes.
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Response 208 of 356: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (00:01) * 1 lines
Why so glum? U can e-mail me if necessary. Or call...935-7171 ext. 426
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Response 209 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (00:04) * 1 lines
It is what the email asking about confidences was about...
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Response 210 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (18:08) * 1 lines
Thanks for last night, John...*smile*
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Response 211 of 356: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (21:58) * 1 lines
U R welcome...everyone else, it's not what you think!
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Response 212 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:31) * 1 lines
John, you are a gentleman and a scholar of the first order. I am a lady. You listened to me when there was no one else to talk to. Thank you for that. And, for the rest of you. Whatever where you thinking?!
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Response 213 of 356: David E. Parsons (spiker) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:36) * 7 lines
Check out my post on Free Republic
Is your Church BATF & FBI approved?
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37c9
click Here
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Response 214 of 356: David E. Parsons (spiker) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:37) * 7 lines
Check out my post on Free Republic
Is your Church BATF & FBI approved?
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37c9
Click Here
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Response 215 of 356: David E. Parsons (spiker) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:50) * 3 lines
I get it right someday!
Click Here
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Response 216 of 356: David E. Parsons (spiker) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:53) * 3 lines
America needs a William Wallace now!
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Response 217 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (07:53) * 5 lines
Marcia - and everyone else: I'm not thinking! How often do I have to explain...
Davey, mah man - why should I check your post, and who's the Bill? You gotta work on dem teasers, man!
(Side-question: If American needs a William Wallace now, what does it need tomorrow? And what does the rest of the world need?
Just curious. And harmless.)
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Response 218 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:32) * 1 lines
Which William Wallace is he talking about?!
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Response 219 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:40) * 1 lines
Gosh, YOU gotta know - you're at least an US-citizen! How'm I to know?
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Response 220 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:54) * 1 lines
The last William Wallace I knew sat behind me in 3rd grade. Historically, was he not "Braveheart" of cinema fame? Ask the Scots amongst us!
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Response 221 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (14:00) * 3 lines
Great Scot, you knew Will Wallace! Whew! Tell us - how was he like?
And, most important - what quality did he possess that your country - well, you know, *their* country, all the non-Hawaii-places - might be in great demand now?
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Response 222 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (13:29) * 1 lines
Wild Will Wallace - boy, I still can't believe it!
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Response 223 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:05) * 1 lines
The one I knew was kind of a jerk. Sniffled instead of blowing his nose...that sort...best left unremembered. And, I wonder how he remembers the girl who sat in front of him in 3rd Grade...! (yes, I know, Alexander, I did not make myself very clear on stating that these were two entirely different WW's!!!)
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Response 224 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, Sep 4, 1999 (10:15) * 3 lines
(Now, I got that, just wanted to tease you...)
So, did Will the Wallace ever pull your braids? Or pin stupid notes on your back?
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Response 225 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Sep 5, 1999 (19:59) * 1 lines
Not until the 4th grade when we got ink wells. He stuck one of my braids in his ink well, and while whipping my head around to see what he was doing, I managed to spray him with the ink in my hair!
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Response 226 of 356: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (16:26) * 1 lines
Just desserts!
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Response 227 of 356: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (16:47) * 5 lines
okay...
I like chocolate raspberry anything...
fruit cobblers are awesome...
cheesecake accompanied with coffee is very worthy of my time...
(how am I doing?)
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Response 228 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (22:57) * 1 lines
If'n y'all's gonna talk like that, bring two spoons!!! I am HONGRY!!!
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Response 229 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 1, 1999 (18:33) * 5 lines
Ok time to awaken the intelligencia here...(there is intelligent life on the Internet, right?!)
Check out Project Gutenberg on the net. Their goal is to make every book in existance FTP-able to your hard drive for free. Knowledge of the entire world at your fingertips. How incredible that seems to me!
http://promo.net/pg
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Response 230 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 2, 1999 (13:57) * 17 lines
Friday, December 3 NASA and its various websites listed below will carry live from Mars the Polar Lander beamed to Earth
from 157 million miles away. The sites will contain weather reports, science data, first sound clips ever beamed to Earth from
"out there" and lots of pictures.
Main Mars site will post the latest pictures and updates throughout the 90-day mission: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98
or
http://marslander.jpl.nasa.gov
JPL's main page has links to the latest Mars project as well as to probes sent to other planets over the last 20 years:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov
JPL's Mars Educational site which includes activites for children and teachers:
http://marsnt3.jpl.nasa.gov/education/index.html
UCLA, where the primary science team is based, offers a site focusing on the experiments aboard the Mars Volitiles and Climate Surveyor payload.
http://mars.ucla.edu
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Response 231 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 14, 1999 (19:36) * 26 lines
Under the "why can't we just get along" topic (which was too hard to find so I put this here):
German Tourists More Popular Than Some
May Think
BERLIN (Reuters) - Britons fond of mocking German vacationers for using
towels to reserve poolside lounge chairs at holiday resorts may be in for a
surprise.
German tourists are more popular abroad than the traditional image suggests,
a survey in the mass-selling Bild newspaper showed on Tuesday, particularly
in Austria where 71 percent of locals said they found German tourists ``very
agreeable'' or at least ``pretty agreeable''.
Of the French respondents, 55 percent liked the Germans, while 54 percent
of the Italians in the survey welcomed tourists from Germany, although 12
percent complained that they were arrogant.
German tourists were least popular in Spain, a holiday destination for 14
million Germans each year, where 26 percent said they didn't like the
Germans.
However, in the tourist haven of southern Spain where German
sunbed-grabbing antics are said to be at their worst 70 percent of
respondents said they found the Germans agreeable.
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Response 232 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:37) * 3 lines
Sure they do! Multiply 14 millions with, say, one thousand Marks, and you get a lot of smiling faces in Spain!
When we have a bad recession here, it means for most people taking only two vacations a year instead of three. Like, "we won't have money for new ski-gear all around, so let's skip St. Moritz this year..." Huh, wish I'd be so well off! I'm with the some people who say "what recession? Doesn't look worse to me than usual..., with all dem black clouds and unpaid bills."
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Response 233 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:42) * 1 lines
Hang in there, my dear. I am sure Spain subscribes to the "keep Spain green, bring money!"
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Response 234 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:44) * 1 lines
Our money is copper, green and silver (the coins), and blue, green, brown and other stuff (the bills & the larger bills, which I can't remember to have seen in a while).
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Response 235 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:51) * 1 lines
No wonder Spain is so colorful. The Deutchmark (and pfennig)has been making it so. I always wondered about that. hmmm...
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Response 236 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (03:12) * 14 lines
My mother died today. My sister called about 10 am with the news.
We were expecting it but I had hoped to visit her in two weeks. My
last conversation with her was one of the best I have had in years, I
didn't think it was going to be my last. She passed away
peacefully. So I've been thinking back through the years today and
remembering how her life was with it's ups and downs, her car
accident, the wonderful years as kids at Chautauqua, the times in
Houston when she moved to her apartment and the last years in
Walnut Creek California where she stayed with my sister. Alice had
been a real savior to mom over the last years, providing her with a
home and comfort. She called my Uncle Harold and Aunt Ann today, and
cousing Muriel and Aunt Jean in LA. Alice was in tears when she
called this morning, it had only happened about 15 minutes before she
called. It's a real different feeling, not having mom around any more.
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Response 237 of 356: Ann (Ann) * Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (07:07) * 1 lines
Terry, I'm sorry to hear of your loss. When my grandmother died, I knew that I had seen her and been able to talk to her on one of her last lucid days, and that has always been a comfort. I'm glad you and your mom had been able to have a good talk before the end. My thoughts are with you and your entire family.
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Response 238 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (12:47) * 1 lines
Thinking of you
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Response 239 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (13:08) * 2 lines
*Hugs* Terry. Moms are very special people and I know you had a really good one because you turned out so splendidly. Everything you do and say reflects positively on her memory - I am sorry I did not meet her to thank her for you.
My thoughts will be with you...as they are quite often anyway. Take care!
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Response 240 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (13:28) * 6 lines
From John Burnett
Terry, I am sorry about your mother's passing. Being prepared makes
arrangements easier but you can't do your grieving in advance. I lost my
dad in 1993 and not a day goes by that I still don't think about him. You
are in my prayers. May God bless you. John
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Response 241 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (16:51) * 5 lines
It's great that you two had a good relation with each other, Terry, and that she left without pain. Those are values one can't estimate too little.
I wish you and your folks all the best. Comfort and take care of each other. Thinking of you,
A.
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Response 242 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (23:59) * 7 lines
A new Droolian (but long time email friend of mine who responded the night we needed a contact in Canada...) asked me to post this for her:
Could you please convey my deepest condolences to Terry. I don't know him yet
but he does great stuff for CF.
Indeed he does; you are in our hearts and prayers tonight, Terry!
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Response 243 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 12, 2000 (00:01) * 1 lines
Oh, sorry...that was from Silvie!
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Response 244 of 356: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Jan 12, 2000 (16:42) * 2 lines
God, terry, i am so sorry. i will be praying for you.
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Response 245 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 12, 2000 (17:01) * 7 lines
From another lady in Drool who is not quite comfortable about posting here:
I was very sorry to hear about Terry's mom. Could you
please forward my condolences to him. Tell him that
Rumi is a great comfort in these situations.
...MoonDreams
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Response 246 of 356: Annette Mercer (laughingsky) * Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (04:16) * 1 lines
Sending a big hug to you, Terry. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Response 247 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (07:44) * 3 lines
Thanks for all your good wishes. While I go to attend some affairs, I'm
asking Ray and the folks steering austen.com and firth.com to continue on
with the move to the new site.
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Response 248 of 356: Stacey Tinianov (stacey) * Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (11:37) * 3 lines
gosh Paul, I feel like I've been under a rock...
I'm sorry to hear about your mother's death.
That whole wheel of life seems decidedly separate from our daily living and beyond the initial shock and sadness, I hope your thoughts and reflections regarding your mother and your times with her are warm and comforting.
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Response 249 of 356: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (12:33) * 1 lines
Thanks Stacey, I've got a pile of cards on my dresser from the nice folks at Spring who sent condolences, I do have many nice thoughts of my mom, like the times she chased me around the tree at the park and many good memories, especially of the summers at Chautauqua.
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Response 250 of 356: Stacey Tinainov (stacey) * Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (10:32) * 1 lines
Chautauqua? As in the area around Boulder?
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Response 251 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (12:11) * 1 lines
Chautauqua as in upstate New York? My former father-in-law spent his summers there, as well. It was quite the place! Wonder how it has evolved over the years and if it is still as prestigeous...!
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Response 252 of 356: (sprin5) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (07:51) * 1 lines
The chautauqua of which I speak is in Illinois, just across the Missouri border north of St. Louis. What are the areas around Boulder and upstate NY like? I'm glad you're out from under the rock, Stace' I wish more folks would emerge from out under their rocks!
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Response 253 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:26) * 3 lines
You say rock? I say roll!
WHAZZAT SPELL? WHAZZAT SPELL?
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Response 254 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:29) * 10 lines
Also, I second the motion Terry put forward:
"Folks, time to stop hibernating. What you waiting for, that hell freezes over?
Damn, it might 'ave 'appened, and you coulda already 'ave missed it!"
I 'ave spoken.
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Response 255 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:32) * 2 lines
The Chautaqua area of New York State is in the Finger Lakes area in the north central area. A truly beautiful area and the home town named Chautaqua, NY.
Alexander, I have no idea whazzat spell, but I am happy to see you posting again. Aloha!
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Response 256 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:34) * 9 lines
Whazzat spell? Why, rock 'n' roll of course! Silly girl!
hey hey, my my, ...
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Response 257 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:50) * 1 lines
(I knew...*grin*)
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Response 258 of 356: Stacey Tinianov (stacey) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (16:00) * 5 lines
... rock and roll will never die... (to finish Alexander's thought)
Paul... Chautaqua is an area inside Boulder... right around the Flatirons. It's a gorgeous hiking park area... you used to live near Boulder during your bee pollen days, no?
Marcia, your Chautaqua sounds very pretty too!
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Response 259 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (16:04) * 2 lines
'Tis lovely. Lotsa big trees and serene lakes. Adirondack Mountains. Mosquitoes...
I prefer your beautiful mountains, given the choice, Stace!
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Response 260 of 356: (sprin5) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (17:59) * 3 lines
I visited Boulder for about a week when we were on the Caravan around the country. We picked rosehips in the snow up near Ward, CO.
That was in the schoolbus days.
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Response 261 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (19:20) * 1 lines
You are a most interesting man, Terry. I just have to spend an evening with you sometime to learn some of the intracies of which I see lttle hints here and there. Fascinating! Intriguing, even...
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Response 262 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (17:51) * 17 lines
RELEASED AT 1:30 P.M. February 2, 2000
ALASKA ALERTS PUBLIC TO FRAUDULENT SOLICITATION FOR FAMILY MEMBERS
SEATTLE -- It is with great regret that Alaska Airlines must alert
Internet users that a fraudulent Web site has been created on the World
Wide Web soliciting donations for the families of the passengers and crew
of Alaska Airlines Flight 261. The site is not sanctioned in any way by
Alaska Airlines. Further, the fraudulent site may also cause further
damage by the spreading of a computer virus to those who visit the site.
The only official site for information about Flight 261 and benevolent fund
raising efforts for the passengers and crew is www.alaskaair.com. Alaska
Airlines has mobilized its own specially trained team of employees to
support and care for the family of the passengers and crew on Flight 261.
The airline will continue to help loved ones and families through this
difficult time.
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Response 263 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (15:21) * 25 lines
from Arca Max weird news
Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:57:35 PST
Things That Almost Make Sense
A Billy Joel song has sparked a bit of controversy in the New York
Senate race. New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is tweaking first lady
Hillary Rodham Clinton over a piece of music that was played over
the sound system prior to her otherwise carefully staged announcement
Sunday that she is a candidate for the U.S. Senate from New York.
A technician was playing a Billy Joel "greatest hits" CD -- evidently
because it contained the anthem-like "New York State of Mind." But
another prominent track on the CD is "Captain Jack," a story song about a
young guy who passes the time on a Saturday night by smoking marijuana and
giving himself pleasure. . .
The New York Times quotes Giuliani as saying that "everything was written
out, everything was planned...and the message that got out, and they say by
mistake...is 'Let's say yes to drugs.'"
A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton's campaign said neither the first lady nor her
campaign staff chose to play the song, and that Giuliani should stick to the
issues. But then, a lenient stance on drugs sounds like it might just be an
issue...
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Response 264 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (14:46) * 7 lines
The Oldest Known Valentine in English
The oldest known valentine message in the English language has been discovered in the British Library. Written in Norfolk in 1477, the letter from a young lady to her fiance goes on display at the library next month.
"My heart bids me evermore to love you over all earthly things" it reads "and if my friends say that I do amiss they shall not stop me from doing so".
'Technology may have changed, but some things are the same' A spokesman for the library said.
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Response 265 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (15:18) * 2 lines
Like they say, "The more things change, the more they stay the same" (never quite understood that one, though...)
Thanks, Maggie!
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Response 266 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 24, 2000 (22:21) * 15 lines
Somewhere way off topic Terry asked me about Geomagnetism. I posted this in Geo and in Radio, but am not sure he will see it. So, I post in Porch, also:
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SFI=192 | A=28 | K=3 down from 4 at 0300 on 25 February. SAF: low to moderate, GMF: at unsettled to minor storm levels
Aurora Level: 8
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That is a propagation report, for those who do not know. The strength and clarity of distant radio signals is directly a result of
those numbers. The higher the first number is( SFI = Solar Flux Index), the better. All of the others, the lower the better.
Solar flux is the stuff which the Sun flings in all directions as it pulsates from internal fusion. It is seriously bad stuff for Earth.
We are saved from most of it by Geomagnetism. When the ionosphere is bombarded with enough ionized particles, Auroras
occur, and if it is strong enough, can interrupt long distance phones, satellites, missle defense systems and other things
terrestrial. Here is a little graphic which shows how it works:
Oh yes, the GMF designation above = Geo Magnetic Field.
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Response 267 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (13:02) * 3 lines
Since I still cannot telnet, would you please link History 5 to Today conference, please?! No one goes into history much, and the topic is "This Day in History" which is appropriate to Today as well as to History...
..isn't it?
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Response 268 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (16:17) * 186 lines
I hope you don't mind me posting this here - I find it very upsetting. This is my part of the world.
WEST AFRICA: IRIN Focus on child trafficking [2000229]
[This report does not necessarily reflect the views of the United Nations]
CHILDREN: IRIN Focus on child trafficking in west and central Africa
LIBREVILLE, 28 February 2000 (IRIN) - From 14-year-old girls forced into
prostitution to domestics just out of their infancy and pre-teen boys
leased to cattlemen, west and central African children are being condemned
to deprivation and servitude, researchers and officials told IRIN.
No-one knows exactly how many young lives are broken in this way. In fact,
finding out and keeping data bases on the twin evils of child trafficking
and the exploitation of children's labour are part of a common platform
for action agreed at a regional consultation held on 22-24 February.
In most of the region, girls, some of them as young as eight years old,
are taken from from rural areas to towns to work as domestics. Many work
for 12 hours each day and more, and are subjected to physical, mental and
sexual abuse. Those taken from their countries also face isolation, some
studies noted.
Children from Mali are taken to Cote d'Ivoire via Burkina Faso, which is
both a supplier of and transit point for child workers. So are Benin,
Ghana, Nigeria and Togo, some of which are also recipient countries.
Children are taken to Equatorial Guinea and to and from Cameroon. Gambian
researchers suspect that there might be children going to work as
domestics in Banjul from the southern Senegalese region of Casamance where
a guerrilla war has been going on for 17 years.
Kounboua Boulo Edoux of the Ministry of Labour in Chad told IRIN that
nomadic cattlemen from northern Cameroon and central Chad travel to Moyen
Chari region in southern Chad in the dry season, contract boys from
farming communities to tend their herds, and take them as far as Central
African Republic (CAR).
The 'Subregional Consultation on Developing Strategies on the Trafficking
of Children for Exploitative Labour Purposes in West and Central Africa'
was held in Libreville, capital of Gabon, one of the countries to which
people illegally ship children, some of whom die along the way. In one
such case some two years ago, Nigerian researcher Professor Peter Obigbo
told IRIN, about 30 children drowned when a boat capsized while taking
them from southern Nigeria to Gabon.
Child trafficking occurs both within and between countries as studies
presented at the consultation - organised by the UN Children's Fund
(UNICEF) and the International Labour Organisation (ILO) showed.
While doing sensitisation work in southern Chad on the worst forms of
labour - the subject of a mid-1999 ILO convention that the Libreville
meeting urged African governments to ratify - he met a small group of
herdboys who had run away from their masters in the CAR. They were
haggard, hungry and covered with wounds sustained while trekking through
the bush back to the Chad border, according to Edoux. Their ages? "Twelve,
thirteen," he said.
The herdsmen approach parents either directly or through middle men, or
area residents who earn 3,000 CFA francs (less than US $5) per boy,
according to Edoux. The child is supposed to work for six months after
which he receives a calf as payment and is taken back to his parents, an
arrangement which some masters honour. Others, however, find pretexts to
end it prematurely, which means that the child is not paid, while some
take the children with them when they go back to their home areas at the
end of the dry season. According to Edoux, soldiers from Moyen Chari
stationed in central Chad sometimes rescue children left stranded after
being abandoned by or running away from their bosses.
Boys are also contracted out to cattle rearers in Ghana, receiving a cow
at the end of four years' service, according to Emelia Oguaah, executive
director of the African Centre for Human Development and one of a team of
consultants who presented at the consultation preliminary findings from
research they did for a subregional project of the ILO's International
Programme on the Elimination of Child Labour (ILO-IPEC). Other boys work
as assistant fishermen and, according to information she obtained while
doing her survey in areas along the Volta Lake in eastern Ghana, these
children fall into two categories.
"Most are brought by their parents as apprentices in fishing or to work
and assist the fishermen," Oguaah told IRIN. "Their parents collect money
and visit their children regularly. But there is another group of children
who, people in the area suspect, were stolen and sold to the fishermen."
Area residents told her nobody visited these children "who become more or
less slaves and are maltreated in various ways."
Other Ghanaian children, girls, are taken to Cote d'Ivoire to work as
maids, helpers in small restaurants or prostitutes, mainly by middle-aged
Ghanaian women living in Cote d'Ivoire, according to Oguaah. Their
unsuspecting parents generally have no idea of the conditions under which
they work, she said, adding that the families of those forced into
prostitution are made to believe their children would be given work.
Overworked and illtreated, some run away and find their way to the
Ghanaian border. "Those who come back are mostly those taken for
prostitution and they are usually between 10 and 14," Oguaah told IRIN.
Public transport operators, she said, told her they often arranged
transportation for the returnees, but some refused to go back home because
of conditions there and ended up living on the streets of Takoradi, a
major town in the west of the country.
Why do parents send their children to town or abroad to work? The reasons
are legion, but poverty is one most often cited, according to Oguaah,
Ebigbo - who was also a member of the team of ILO-IPEC consultants - and
other participants in the Libreville encounter.
Other contributory factors include lack of awareness of the risks
involved, insufficient training and educational opportunities and a high
demand for cheap, submissive child labour, the inexistence or inadequacy
of national laws on child trafficking, weak institutional mechanisms and
inadequate border controls, according to the platform for action that
participants in the consultation have undertaken to implement.
The platform includes strengthening sensitisation campaigns - which some
countries have already started - targeting not only adult groups such as
the media, women's associations and other NGOs that defend the rights of
the child, but also children, through children's parliaments and other
forms of organisation involving them.
The platform also provides for reviewing penal codes to include
child-trafficking offences which, it says, should be defined, and adequate
and severe penaties set. It includes drawing up an international
convention on child trafficking, stiffer regulations on the movement of
children out of countries, training people who would implement new laws,
and strengthening the capacity of monitoring structures and intervention
units in terms of personnel and equipment.
Another key area on which the consultation focused was the effect of
trafficking and exploitative labour on the children. A UNICEF survey on
Nigeria presented at the meeting noted that these practices result in the
interruption of children's education, traumatises them and impairs their
development. In the long term, children thus abused face a future of
poverty and destitution and are sometimes caught up in a cycle of
violence, insecurity and lawlessness, and HIV/Aids, according to the
survey.
A similar presentation on Burkina Faso noted that the traffic, "which is a
brutal separation of the child from his or her family with all the
emotional traumas this can cause ... develops negative sentiments and
violent reactions in this fragile being, and makes him/her accustomed to
violence" and certain types of anti-social behaviour.
Improving care for the victims is therefore part of the platform. The
government ministers, other state officials and non-governmental
representatives who participated in the Libreville encounter agreed on a
series of actions such as setting up or strengthening halfway houses and
transit centres for children subjected to trafficking.
They also expressed a commitment to "put in place human resources
necessary for the medical and psycho-social support of children, and any
other form of support, while waiting to reunite them with their families"
and, after reunification, to empower parents to care for them.
Empowering and strengthening the capacities of NGOs and providing
protection for the victims of child trafficking, are also among the
provisions of the platform, which provides further for improved knowledge
and monitoring of trafficking.
To guarantee implementation of the platform, the ministers undertook to
report on its results as soon as they returned home, and delegates agreed,
among other things, to set up a standing sub-regional monitoring committee
comprising representatives of governments, labour, employers and civil
society, with the participation of ILO and UNICEF.
[ENDS]
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Response 269 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Tue, Mar 7, 2000 (13:36) * 93 lines
Still thinking about Mozambique.
MOZAMBIQUE: IRIN Focus on reconstruction
[This report does not necessarily reflect the views of the United Nations]
JOHANNESBURG, 6 March (IRIN) - The scourge of landmines laid during
Mozambique's 16-year civil war could pose a new threat to returning
villagers when the flood waters subside, leaving many of the deadly weapons
exposed, unstable or swept to new areas.
Demining specialists in Mozambique told IRIN they feared that the hidden
devices would make rehabilitation that much harder, and complicate the
campaign to rid the country of landmines.
"We did not know for sure where the landmines were located before the floods
started. Now we know even less after the mines were displaced by the
floods," Jakob Kaarsbo of the UN's demining team in Mozambique told IRIN on
Monday.
Kaarsbo said demining activities have been put on hold because of the
difficulty of access caused by flooding. Reconnaissance and surveys will
have to be started afresh and maps redrawn once the floodwaters had
subsided, he said. Nevertheless, the mine awareness campaign in Mozambique
would continue.
Kaarsbo's remarks were made as the country weighed the massive
reconstruction effort that will be required to repair damaged roads, railway
lines, bridges, schools and other infrastructure.
Chissano estimates a multi-million package
President Joachim Chissano announced that at least US $250 million will be
needed to repair infrastructure in a country where the floods have also left
more than a million people homeless, destroyed 10,000 hectares of planted
fields, and claimed an estimated 30,000 head of cattle.
Rui Fonseca, chairman of the state-owned Mozambican Ports and Railway
Company (CFM), told IRIN the parastatal is losing an estimated US $50,000 a
day due to floods which have paralysed the rail system in the southern parts
of the country. Fonseca added that CFM has so far lost US $4.5 million in
revenue since the start of the rains in February.
"CFM will need about US $7 million to repair the damage to the rail system,"
Fonseca said. He added that the worst damaged line is the Limpopo line that
links the country's capital, Maputo to Zimbabwe.
Fonseca said about 4km of the line was submerged, while a further 4km was
hanging precariously over huge gullies. "We expect the line to be
operational in a month," Fonseca said. The Ressano Garcia line, linking
Maputo to South Africa was reopened last Wednesday after the waters started
receding, added Fonseca.
Fonseca said, however, that the current repairs are being undertaken under
an emergency plan, and that more substantial rehabilitation would cost much
more. "Under normal circumstances, repairing a kilometre of track costs
between US $300,000 and US $400,000."
International lending agencies decline to cancel debt
Meanwhile, The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank, whom
Mozambique owes at least US $8.3 billion have said they will not cancel the
country's debt.
The IMF is, however, reportedly considering an emergency support credit to
Mozambique and will accelerate the country's access to the approved funds
totalling US $17.5 million for the roads and coastal shipping project.
A World Bank official in Maputo, told IRIN on Monday that the Bank has also
offered a helping hand: "The Bank has decided to suspend Mozambique's debt
service for one year while the country tries to recover from the disaster."
Jubilee 2000, the debt cancellation group, argues that Mozambique pays about
US $73 million a year on debt servicing. This, said Jubilee 2000, compares
to the country's budget of US $20 million for primary health care and US $32
million for primary education.
Bilateral lenders
Some bilateral creditors, however, have indicated their preparedness to
cancel Mozambique's debt. Britain last week decided to cancel US $150
million owed by Mozambique, while Portugal wrote off US $150 million and
Spain cancelled US $20 million.
Jubilee 2000 argued that debt cancellation would make a significant
difference only if Russia, Italy and France write off Mozambique's debts,
which make up 50 percent of the country's bilateral debt.
After completing six years of IMF-driven economic reforms, Mozambique was
offered debt relief of US $3.7 billion last year under the heavily indebted
poor countries (HIPC) initiative. Debt service payments were reduced on an
annual basis from an average of US $114 million to US $73 million.
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Response 270 of 356: Stacey Tinianov (stacey) * Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (20:02) * 2 lines
I've followed the flooding stories and the 'relief efforts'... so hard to imagine so much hardship while living in my cozy little house... with my cozy little job and my cozy husband...
We haven't had a TV in so long, I was horrified to watch the QuickTime movies of the rescues... don't see that ugly drama in the newspaper or on the radio...
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Response 271 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (14:29) * 4 lines
Just wait'll you deliver your baby in a tree top! I would not have survived and neither would have my son! Lots of this stuff posted in Geo
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/25
Miserable beyond belief!
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Response 272 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (18:44) * 4 lines
We oughta have a place to announce really good stuff on conferences which we otherwise might not frequent. I can't find a better place than here that everyone reads (well, almost everyone...) so here goes.
Geo topic 15 is Geosites for Kids (a place to find interesting stuff for parents, teachers, kids or really with-it adults.) There have been some really good stuff in there lately - even Emeritus Prof Frank noted how good it was. Now, do something really fun for yourself and check it out!
Mahalo!
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Response 273 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (18:50) * 6 lines
Oh, yes! Wolf has created a bunch of new topics in the collecting conference.
Anyone collect Sports Memorabilia ****(Please link with Sports conference since I am still without telnet access to Spring!)**** Tie flies and collect same or fish for fun and/or food? How about model trains? I added mine to her collecting collection. Please check it out, too!
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/collecting/all/new
and Geo: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/new
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Response 274 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (19:33) * 1 lines
Specific plea: Link Collecting Topic 59 to the Sports Conference, Please.
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Response 275 of 356: (sprin5) * Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (00:27) * 18 lines
I'm talking about the Oscars in movies tonight, since I just watched it
and it's fresh in my mind. Did anyone else catch this years Oscars?
Too bad Jeremy Northam didn't win supporting actor for the Winslow Boy,
and Annette Benning lost in best actress.
DeForrest Kelly wasn't mentioned among the departed cuts.
George Lucas was totally ignored.
But then there *was* something called the Matrix.
Classiest act of the night was Michael Caine, he really gave others their
credit. The comment to Tom Cruise was pure, unadulterated class. (He
told him that supporting actors don't make near as much and it would have
got him a pay cut).
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Response 276 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (00:29) * 2 lines
DeForest Kelly was not mentioned? How could they ignore "Bones" of Star Trek?!
I am very disenchanted with the whole Oscar scene...alas. Jaded, perhaps?
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Response 277 of 356: Ann (Ann) * Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (14:53) * 1 lines
"Blame Canada" was clearly the best song! The rest were all boring pop-style songs.
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Response 278 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (13:23) * 4 lines
Oh, that's what he was called in the original series? In German, they'd dubbed him "Pille" - pill. Didn't know he'd died, hope it was hard for him.
Hmh, perhaps they didn't mention it, because all the huffy movie folks got him marked as a tv person? Might be... I don't know any movies he'd been in but the early Star Trek movies... Where else was he in?
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Response 279 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:00) * 1 lines
Before the original Star Trek (for TV) made him famous, he was a bit player in B-rated Westerns and invariably played a bad guy with a serious need for a shave. Not appealing, at all!
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Response 280 of 356: (sprin5) * Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:37) * 1 lines
The Star Trek movies count for something.
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Response 281 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:56) * 1 lines
Indeed! (Large understatement on my part - sorry!)
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Response 282 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (12:18) * 1 lines
Oh, definitely, Terry! And thanks for the info, Marcia!
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Response 283 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (12:26) * 1 lines
*smile* Happy to help a fellow trekkie and those lurking...
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Response 284 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (12:27) * 1 lines
Who's lurking?
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Response 285 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (13:15) * 2 lines
If they would quit lurking and post something perhaps we qwould all know...yes?
I have no idea ;)
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Response 286 of 356: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (14:17) * 1 lines
Ah so...
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Response 287 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (11:35) * 8 lines
and something a bit serious....i posted this in web but not many people have that on their lists (thanks marcia)....
i may sound like an alarmist and this is the wrong topic to post this in but, here goes nothing.....
please teach your children to be careful surfing the web. pedophiles and stalkers are out there and are blatant about what they want. with chat rooms being offered as free additions to websites, it's harder for "moderators" to control and report anything suspicious. i've removed the chat rooms from my site.
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Response 288 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:13) * 1 lines
Thannks for posting this important message here. Two 11 yr old girls were lured to New Yrok City and raped recently. One is too many. Please take care and be aware of what your children are doing on the Internet.
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Response 289 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:28) * 1 lines
also, cops are posing as kids on the internet and arranging meetings to catch the bad guys, isn't that great? the show i watched last night showed them do just that! a male officer posed as a 13 year old teenage girl......luv it when they catch the bad guys.
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Response 290 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:35) * 1 lines
Me too...makes my day....*grin*
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Response 291 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:39) * 1 lines
i would like to get the word out, does anyone know of any sites that spread the word about online pedophiles with buttons you can add to your site to help educate and inform your viewers? i have an anti child pornography on the web button but am looking for more of the same. and speaking of that, today, i got an email about teen sex sites and fetishes. disgusting.
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Response 292 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:43) * 1 lines
Never noticed. I shall from now on, though. Adultstory.com has some mentioned in the intro at the top of the frontpage...
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Response 293 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:44) * 1 lines
Wot? You did not get one about animals?! Talk about disgusting...!
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Response 294 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:47) * 4 lines
http://www.pedowatch.org
http://www.asacp.org
http://www.hackers.com/ehap
http://www.safesurf.com
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Response 295 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:48) * 1 lines
well, thank goodness, hotmail made a bulk mail box for those mails that have multiple addresses on them. i had been sending a lot of junkmail to hotmail's abuse email account and now this bulk box appears. what a great idea.
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Response 296 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:50) * 1 lines
Excellent. The more sites involved the less the chance of it proliferating, I hope, anyway...!
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Response 297 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:13) * 1 lines
thanks for those links. i've got a pic up with a link to pedowatch.org. maybe we should add a couple for around here?
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Response 298 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:17) * 1 lines
I think that is a splendid idea. One in Parents conference would be good and one in Collecting and SpringArk (I know you can do the latter 2 - can you do Parents, as well?)...Not sure about Geo but I can put one in there.
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Response 299 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:18) * 1 lines
Porch is the most travelled conference - or used to be outside of Drool. Post one!!!
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Response 300 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:18) * 1 lines
don't have access to parents but will do it in para, collecting, springark, and poetry...
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Response 301 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:18) * 1 lines
can't do it in porch either...
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Response 302 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:30) * 1 lines
it's done on my conferences....
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Response 303 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:32) * 5 lines
here's a banner that's nonintrusive and small:
link it to http://www.pedowatch.org
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Response 304 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:35) * 1 lines
That is great, wolfie...but it is right where my globe graphic is according to my config and I could not bear to do anything to that. Hmmm...lemme think....
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Response 305 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:36) * 1 lines
we can get the masters of spring to put it up! don't take away your globe!!
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Response 306 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:39) * 1 lines
I just tried it on ones without active hosts like screwed and the history which I was supposed to cohost (I am the only one active in there and I get no respect) but I was not granted access. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Response 307 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:40) * 1 lines
well, we'll just make sure terry knows about it and he comes in here once in awhile, right?
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Response 308 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:41) * 1 lines
Did you read my venting in Grievances yesterday? Our Fearless leader reads but I think we must wait for the other since no one has even linked the ones we need (unless I call Kat and probably be paying $40 for a website I don't need just to be able to telnet so I can do these things....*frown* Amd I getting old and cranky or what?! (Please...be kind...!)
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Response 309 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:45) * 1 lines
no you're not. i don't know where everyone is either....
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Response 310 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (19:00) * 1 lines
I guess it is the time of year or whatever. Some are still trying to access Spring using the IP and email me why it no longer works...Others are lurking. I brought Lance and Ginny in lately, but I am rnning out of people I want to know me this well...or deserve to. (Thanks for saying I'm not *hugs*)
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Response 311 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (19:02) * 1 lines
Speaking of our fearless leader, did you see how incredibly handsome he was on the latest video (NO, this is not to feed his ego, nor am I on a fishing expedition. Just stating facts!) ...Or did I ask you this before? I wanna picture of him like he looked in there! Awesome!
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Response 312 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (20:34) * 1 lines
i think i missed it...
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Response 313 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (11:27) * 1 lines
I tried to save the close-ups of him but even using pause and photographing the desktop did not work. I think there is no way to save it...so we gotta get someone with a snappy or something to do it. Spring has the choicest men attached to it, does it not?! *grin*
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Response 314 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (14:54) * 1 lines
no bias there! *laugh*
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Response 315 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:03) * 3 lines
*grin*
I wonder how long I would have to leave for before I got a H1 come back Marcia on the Front Page. (Having been whipped into shape for adulthood promising me little by my 2 older sisters, it might be longer than my life expectancy!) Not bitter...not resentful...just hating being relegated to the bottom of the barrel again after having some really nice PR going. Yes, I know I could start my own webpage and post to blankness just as I do here some times.
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Response 316 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:22) * 3 lines
{Yeah, I know I need to take a long hike or a run out under my tree with the silky grass underneath and cool breezes....)
((((((Terry, You promised to make a most important visit. Please do so ASAP. It might be more important than you realize!!!)))))
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Response 317 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:45) * 3 lines
talk to me, marcia....
HUGS
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Response 318 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:46) * 1 lines
don't know how long i'll be online this afternoon, so email to your heart's content!
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Response 319 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (16:02) * 1 lines
I'm ok...I'll email you...*Hugs*
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Response 320 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (00:39) * 3 lines
EARTHQUAKE - April 1 8:17 pm Hawaiian Standard time
Guestimating it 5.5 magnitude
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Response 321 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (11:31) * 3 lines
We had a quiet night, as far as I know. This was one of the strongest Earthquakes of recent times. Its epicenter was near Pu'u O'o on Kilauea's Southeast rift. It felt like some tremendously strong had shoved the entire house very abruptly - an unusual type. Usually they shake back and forth.
John reported this morning "I had dozed off and it woke me up. Certainly shook the six-story building I live in."
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Response 322 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:25) * 3 lines
the earthquake was in hawaii? (well, duh, if it woke john up)....
heard that edo erupted again but nothing like it was on friday. unfortunately, that's all i know about that one. didn't even hear about your earthquake, marcia.
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Response 323 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:42) * 2 lines
I know...if it happens over a weekend, even if the entire island explodes and disappears, you will not get information on it until Monday, and then, probably only from the foreign press...*sigh* I posted most of the information in Geo 26. Information is very slow in coming in even here where it happened. I am listening to the tour pilots as they can tell the changes in the volcano more quickly than the geologists on the ground can.
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Response 324 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:44) * 1 lines
John tried to imply on his radio show this morning that the earthquake was caused by his falling out of bed. NOT!!!
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Response 325 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:46) * 1 lines
*lol*
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Response 326 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 4, 2000 (20:01) * 4 lines
http://promotions.go.com/espn/mascots/challenge.html
the Nittany Lion won the mascot battle! It was so close.. 50.0 to 49.9. Could anything be closer? But, it's great that your mascot won and I'm very happy for Penn State! 56,763 people actually voted on this important issue (including me, but we won't tell anyone!)
I voted too, but I voted for my Nittany Lion! Thanks Barbara!!!
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Response 327 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 5, 2000 (13:28) * 83 lines
From the Tallahassee Police Department fraud unit:
We want to update you on several issues involving the latest e-mails making
their way around, and to follow-up on what we believe is a
telephone scam.
1. Computer Virus
We received over 50 inquiries within the last week regarding the latest
computer virus e-mail floating around. However, what is different with this
one is that it may have some merit. The e-mail states that a virus may
infect your computer which will completely erase your hard drive, as well as
dial 911 from your modem. The e-mail went on to point out that the FBI had
issued an advisory about this particular virus. Actually, it was the
National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC) which is an off-shoot of
the FBI.
You can read about this virus advisory at
http://www.fbi.gov/nipc/nipcaaw.htm
TPD's Public Information Office does not claim to be computer virus experts,
and we have little understanding (and even less desire to know) of how this
virus works or how to adequately deal with the virus should your computer
become infected. Our purpose only is to respond to your inquiries about
these e-mail rumors. For more specific and technical information, please
contact your System Administrator.
2. ATM Envelopes/Cyanide E-mail Hoax
This is another e-mail rumor that will not seem to go away. The e-mail
makes specific reference to a person who died after licking an envelope from
a Bank of America ATM machine. As far as we know, this rumor is totally
false. We dealt with this particular e-mail rumor over a year ago, but it
still keeps coming back.
You can read about this latest urban legend at
http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/culture/urbanlegends/library/weekly/aa04030
0a.htm
If anyone has ANY credible proof that such an event took place, please let
us know. Otherwise, delete the e-mail when it is sent to you, and please do
not forward it to anyone.
3. TeleNation Update
On March 21, 2000, we issued E-Alert # 00-07. This alert, in part, dealt
with suspicious calls being received by some of our subscribers from a
company called "TeleNation." Our readers stated that someone was calling
their homes and asking a number of questions about the number of children in
the family, computer habits, etc.
We referred this matter to Investigator Gary Steinberg in TPD's Criminal
Intelligence Unit for follow-up. Here is the text from his e-mails to us
regarding his findings:
"We completed a national search and found a corporation of the same name
(TeleNation) out of North Miami Beach. There is no listing for phone
service, though. I had a Detective from North Miami Beach PD go by the
location for TeleNation today. The business was locked up but the Detective
was able to contact the building manager. The manager said he has seen the
person leasing the office come and go a few times, and that's it. The
Detective left a note on the door for that person to call, but we have no
expectation he will. Based on what the Detective observed and learned, she
suspects a phone scam-type of business. Please instruct people to refuse
any cooperation with any phone survey unless the caller is willing to
provide the necessary information, name of business and call back number, to
verify that the survey is legitimate."
As we stated on March 21st, we are not saying that TeleNation is not a
legitimate company. They may certainly be legitimate, but we are concerned
with their survey methods and would like to know more about them.
If anyone from TeleNation calls you and begins asking questions, please
follow Inv. Steinberg's advice - don't tell them anything until they
identify themselves, their company, and until they provide you with a
call-back number. Legitimate survey companies will gladly do this.
Also, please instruct your children that if a responsible adult is not
present when calls such as these are received - don't relay any information
about anyone living in the home. Instead, have your children ask for a
call-back number.
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Response 328 of 356: Serious Matters (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (23:41) * 93 lines
I was asked to post this by a USMC retired Col.
Many of us remember that during the Vietnam war Jane Fonda opposed the war,
as many others, but she went to Vietnam and embarrassed the US Government
and the prisoners of war by her actions.
Many of these actions are spelled out below.
It is appalling that her actions have been forgotten and that she may
be honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."
JANE FONDA remembered?
Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never known
how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our "country" but the men who
served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be
blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to
those who suffered her attentions.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry
Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School
was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a
stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was
ordered
to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged
away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp
Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off which sent that
officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision
(which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied
application of wooden baton.
From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent years
in the "Hilton"-the first three of which he was "missing in action." His
wife lived
on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothe
routine in
preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that
they still
survived.
Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of
his
hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line,
shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like:
"Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?
" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the
camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to
the officer in charge... and handed him the little pile. Three men died from
the
subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four.
Another letter received, To whom it may concern:
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by
the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5
years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in
Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors
deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a
leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near
the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political
officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I
would like to
tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far
different
from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane
Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a
rocky
floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my
hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I
was
released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She did not answer me. Her former husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years of Great
Women."
Please take the time to read and forward to as many people as you possibly
can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that "we
will never forget.
" Lest we forget..."100 years of great women."
What do you think? It is worthwhile passing on? Millions of vets who served
during the Vietnam War believe it is.
Please write your Legislators and voice your concern
Whatever you decide, thanks for taking the time to read this.
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Response 329 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (14:33) * 1 lines
Btw, the man who sent it to me spent many years as POW there. He is no phoney or rabble-rouser. He feels this deeply!
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Response 330 of 356: spring today (sprin5) * Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (10:52) * 1 lines
It puts a whole different spin on Jane Fonda. And she's in denial?
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Response 331 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (13:25) * 1 lines
She has been "born again" so it is expunged from her heavenly record and we are supposed to do the same with our memories, I guess. I think it will not be that easy to do. Denial is a good word here!
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Response 332 of 356: on the porch (sprin5) * Mon, May 1, 2000 (07:41) * 1 lines
The Today Show is live from Hawaii today, Volcano National Park? on Kileua (sp?), so if they run this when you wake up Marci you might want to check it out.
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Response 333 of 356: spring today (sprin5) * Mon, May 1, 2000 (08:53) * 5 lines
Now is 2:54 am in Hawaii and Matt is in front of a volcano.
http://today.nbc.com has him answering questions about Hawaii today.
Incredible lava shosts.
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Response 334 of 356: on the porch (sprin5) * Mon, May 1, 2000 (09:15) * 2 lines
Check out the http://www.saveseed.com topic in the projects conference. I've overhauled this site and added some actual content instead of just a sign that says "future home of http://www.saveseed.com
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Response 335 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, May 1, 2000 (13:29) * 1 lines
We just saw it about 1/2 hour ago. That is one neat volcano, no?! I was hoping someone would see it on Spring. Yay!!! I am surprised there weren't pix of me during the time the subdivision was being covered. We were doing disaster relief work...it was heart-breaking! So, now you've seen the man who is retiring as Civil Defense Chief, Harry Kim. He is the neatest guy on the planet and he has a way to getting everyone to agree with him when it is a life and death situation. We will miss him terribly. He was the voice of calm in chaos!
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Response 336 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, May 8, 2000 (22:23) * 34 lines
Columbia, Online News offer Web journalism prizes
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Online News Association and olumbia
University's journalism school, home of the Pulitzer Prizes, Monday
announced the creation of a new set of international awards for the best in
Internet journalism.
The Online Journalism Awards will honor outstanding online journalism each
year with 11 prizes in six categories, the Graduate School of Journalism and
the Online News Association (ONA) said in a statement.
Entries must be from English-language Web sites only, but the sites may be
based anywhere.
The journalism school will administer the awards at the request of the ONA, a
professional group of reporters, producers and editors working in new media
journalism.
``We believe these awards will be a major step towards one of our most
important goals recognizing and encouraging journalistic excellence in this
new medium,'' Rich Jaroslovsky, president of ONA and managing editor of the
online Wall Street Journal, said in the statement.
Journalism school Dean Tom Goldstein said, ``We are excited to administer
the new awards as they will help to set the standards in the world of online
journalism.''
The school administers the Pulitzer Prizes for newspaper journalism, letters,
drama and music; the National Magazine Awards; the Alfred I.
duPont-Columbia University Awards in Broadcast Journalism; the Maria
Moors Cabot Prizes in inter-American Journalism; and other awards.
The Online Journalism Awards' six categories are general excellence, online
commentary, breaking news, enterprise journalism, service journalism and
most creative use of the medium.
The inaugural contest will be launched officially on July 3, with details and
entry forms available at http://www.onlinejournalismawards.org. Articles
published between July 1, 1999, and June 30, 2000, will be eligible.
Sreenath Sreenivasan, a professor of new media at the school and a founding
member of ONA, has been named administrator of the awards.
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Response 337 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (12:40) * 5 lines
i wanna find out why this place is so dead! yesterday, i made a couple of posts and walked away for several hours. checked back in and my posts were still sitting in the "last five responses". WHAT's UP WITH THAT????
marcia and i cannot possible post by ourselves all the time and keep this place interesting! (although we certainly try)
so you summer vacationing people, find a cyber cafe and post!! and the rest of you, get your butts back over here!!!!!!!
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Response 338 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (22:33) * 1 lines
You tell'um, Wolfie!!! For Geo's 1st birthday it would have been nice if some of the lurkers posted something. They must be as bored seeing Wolf's and my posts as we are! Get your buns in gear and post something. It does not cost anything!!!
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Response 339 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (18:55) * 1 lines
Well, Americ is back.......see him starring in Geo! New Topic and all. Yay!!!
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Response 340 of 356: Wolf (wolf) * Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (19:29) * 1 lines
another new topic? wow!!
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Response 341 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (23:14) * 1 lines
Whoopee!!! Yup! and he actually said soemthing in there unlike another drive by creator who plopped bioregions in Geo and never came back to see it. Oh well. Yes, I am delighted that Mike and Americ created their own and use them.
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Response 342 of 356: on the porch (sprin5) * Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (08:48) * 3 lines
Talk 2000 Olympics in the sports conference, NBC's Kristen Huntley is looking for chat hosts.
What else is going on around Spring oday?/
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Response 343 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (16:30) * 1 lines
I am still encouraging men who contact me to look at Geo and they often wander about Spring to check it out. My most promising poster, however, spends his time alotted for the internet talking privately with me. Oh well, He is very special!!! I have had many check in. Last night an astro engineering major from the USAF Academy talked to me and I got him do download Seti@home. I will hear from him again, I am sure. Have not lost one yet - and have had more than one proposal...! I do, however send the terminally young and lusty on their way with a tender suggestion that they need a younger specimen than I. Sometime I get them back, too! Life on the interent is truly interesting and there ares such intellgent and worthy men out there...*sigh* (Some are actually planning to visit the volcano...!!!)
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Response 344 of 356: on the porch (sprin5) * Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (09:30) * 1 lines
Hope you can get some of them to go public, keep trying!
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Response 345 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (19:03) * 2 lines
Got a some to login and two to post. One in Archaeology and one in Paleontology. The former is too busy digging now to post and the latter uses his per minute charges talking to me *smile* Oh, and another in Paleo...
Am working on two astronomically-inclined gentleman and a geologist who is not related to me at this time...
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Response 346 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Sat, Sep 2, 2000 (03:12) * 3 lines
Not related to Spring ... I've been shovelling sand from the back car park (nearest point to the back of my terraced house) into the garden. Today the paving slabs get laid in front of the French windows which were put in a six months ago....I have my eldest daughter's engagement party tonight, so I need to get the sand out of my hair for that. Oh well, think of the muscles I'm developing, who needs to go to the gym!!!!
Next week we get a skip to put all the rubbish in.....I hate sorting things out, but I hate being in a mess too. Hooray, the four indoor doors that are now propping up my garden shed will go in the skip and disappear.... now what else can I put in there?????? The big worry is that other people will also put stuff in the skip - and we have to pay per ton to have it disposed of!!!
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Response 347 of 356: on the porch (sprin5) * Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (04:41) * 7 lines
Americ's back in the philosophy conference.
Michael Moore's musings on the presidential race in politics.
Lot's in geo and today.
There must be an army of lurkers, based on our stats.
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Response 348 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (05:36) * 1 lines
Hey! Have a look in Education and Culture conferences, please....
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Response 349 of 356: on the porch (sprin5) * Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (08:23) * 1 lines
Really, some good stuff in there!
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Response 350 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (13:03) * 1 lines
Maggie, Geo first!!! Then, "social" schedule permitting, I will hunt for your stuff. You got Terry to read it! You must have some appeal I lack ( I must expend it all of it on IM...) Yeah yeah yeah, I know... I promise to go look!
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Response 351 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (13:09) * 1 lines
If only 10% of the people who become aware of Geo actually go look at it, we are getting a bunch more hits than before I took to IM seduction (for enticement to post only , of course.) I know for a fact that at least the Europeans pay for their phone calls to the internet by minute, and prefer to talk to me personally when they do get online. Perhaps when they get bored with me...
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Response 352 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (18:46) * 1 lines
Thanks for the positive responses. I will continue to hunt up some good stuff....
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Response 353 of 356: Carys (Carys) * Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (18:03) * 1 lines
May I say hello to everyone sitting on the porch?
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Response 354 of 356: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (21:29) * 1 lines
Take off your shoes and pull up a chair and join us!!!
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Response 355 of 356: Maggie (sociolingo) * Tue, Sep 12, 2000 (03:25) * 1 lines
What are you drinking??? Mine's good old english tea at the moment ... yesterday it was half bottle of wine, and I wasn't reponsible for the consequesnces!!!! *grin*
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Response 356 of 356: on the porch (sprin5) * Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (07:52) * 6 lines
We arrived Sunday, July 16. We were both numb from the travel. Hawaii, as we later learned, is the most geographically remote location on Earth. We arrived at the Kona Coast Resort, checked in, and the rest is a blur.
We woke Monday feeling great. Absolutely lost, but great. We needed a guidebook! We found a great bookstore (Middle Earth Bookstore, right behind Crazy Shirts) along the Kona coast, about a 10-minute drive north along the Pacific shore. I went looking at other stuff while Carol checked out the guides. Suddenly, she excitedly approached me with this weird-looking book in her hands. The cover seemed to glow. The Secrets & Mysteries of Hawaii.
This is Jeffrey Field or fattymoon talking about Hawaii, more excerpts and a link are in today's travel conference.
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