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Topic 80 · 32 responses · archived october 2000
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~terry seed
Creating your own web site is now as imperative as having your own e-mail address. What was Considered extremely esoteric by the general public just one year ago is now commonplace -- companies are developing web sites for marketing and selling their products and services, students are creating web pages for classes, job hunters are using the web to get companies to check their on-line resumes out, socially maladroit individuals are finding equally reserved and reticent partners via web pages, the list goes on... With so great a demand, it has also become imperative for products to be developed that make sense out of the somewhat confusing Hyper Text Markup Language. As a result of the high demand and equally high need, the HTML Editor market has emerged to become one of the most intensely competitive sub-industries of the Internet. Users can now find HTML Editors geared to first time 'netters, moderately inclined 'netizens, and even the most supreme of webmasters. In fact, whatever your needs, there's bound to be an HTML Editor available that will meet them. The following are brief descriptions of each application featured on the HTML Editors.
~terry #1
Above Review by Forrest Stroud
~terry #2
My favorite, and the favorite around the Spring and NetRabbit, is HotDog Professional. I'll talk in more detail in the HotDog item. I haven't seen a wysiwyg app that I like yet, although FrontPage is a step in this direction. Amazingly, I watched someone create some web pages with Netscape Gold the other day and it worked pretty well.
~KK #3
I take your word for it.
~ian #4
My favourite HTML editor is vi, with collection of shell scripts, but the one I usually recommend is HotMetal. I recommend HotMetal because it is a good editor, and I do not know many HTML editors (there could easily be better one output there). At any point, you can easily find out what elments are allowed -- for example, whether you can put a list at any given point. You do not have know about DTDs and such stuff. The reason I prefer vi is that I know the parts of the HTML DTD that I need, and usually do not do anything fancy. vi lets me pipe a range of lines through a shell script, replacing the range with the output of the shell script. For example, if I want a list of anchors, I can type a two-column tab-separated list of URLs and descriptions, mark the line range (say a and b), and issue the :'a,'b!h a|h ul This pipes the range of line one through my shell script to get a list of anchors (element A), pipes that output through the script again to get an unordered list (element UL), and replaces the original lines with the final output. You can see why a part time programmer (guess who?) would like this, but it will also be obvious why I recommend an alternative solution to many people.
~Neptune #5
I tried Hotdog Pro and Netscape Gold, and although HotDog is much more powerful it does not really have a WYSIWYG interface that runs simultaneously with its editor. Netscape Gold does. Being a person who still believes that you should have your Webpage acessable to at least the majority of the masses, I don't believe in putting a lot of the latest bells and whistles into webpages. THEREFORE, I find myself using Netscape Gold instead of Hotdog Pro.
~terry #6
As mentioned in the Hotdog Pro item, HotDog is moving toward wysiwyg.
~LightningJack #7
I'm in search of an HTML color chooser. Does anyone know of a good one, or a place where I might look to find one? (I tried www.cwsapps.com already and couldn't find one there.) TIA Dan
~terry #8
Send an email to bhg@www.spring.com. He may know of one.
~kendall #9
I am looking for an updated HTML checker. The ones I know about are out of date - do not recognize new commands, think paragraphs and line breaks need to be closed, etc. thanks katy kendall kpk@ornl.gov
~oz #10
Just a quick note to say that Version 2.0 of NACHOS (Not A Childs Html Organising System) has been released. Windows 95 only, but well worth a look. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~krisp/nachos Oh yeah, and it has a decent HTML color picker
~Ben #11
Has anyone experience in converting hundreds of MS-Word files into HTML. Which tool is the best to perform automatically sets of MS-Word files with few user interaction during the process (it should include graphics conversion). Any suggestion?
~terry #12
Internet Assistant for MS Word! The perfect app for this.
~Ben #13
In addition to Internet Assistant for MS Word, I've also found a new tool for performing the conversion of many MS-Word files. Here's the URL http://www.solutionsoft.com/w2w.htm Sincerely
~ian #14
If you want to check HTML files, you can do it with "SP", a free SGML from http://www.jclark.com/ or with OmniMark, a commercial package from OmniMark Technologies Corporation -- http://www.omnimark.com/ Both SP and OmniMark use a DTD that describes the document structure. you can get the HTML 3.2 DTD ( http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/MarkUp/Wilbur/ ) from the World Wide Web Consortium ( http://www.w3.org/ ). SP is an excellent SGML parser but does not have all of abilities that OmniMark have. Omnimark is an very powerful programming language for document processing -- I have used it to convert WinHelp RTF files to SGML.
~Ann #15
I have a Word 97-HTML question. I'm trying to save a file from the internet, then open it up on Word and look at the tags, but Word keeps pretending it is a browser and interpretting the tags as formatting. Is there a way to look at the source file of a web document using Word 97??? Or will it always turn bold tags into bold formatting? How do you see the tags?
~KitchenManager #16
click on view then click on HTML Source
~KitchenManager #17
anyone else played with HomeSite 4.0?
~terry #18
A little bit, I got it with the Allaire stuff. It's ok, it may be better now.
~KitchenManager #19
it's got some nice features that are easy to use if you are used to the world o' gui's instead of the real world...
~MarciaH #20
...what's a gui?
~sprin5 #21
graphical user interface. pronoucned "gooey"
~MarciaH #22
I figured it was "gooey"...but not that it was a graphical user interface. Thanks! I would ask you how and why it is used, but I guess I can hunt up that information for myself lest I look too stupid to chew gum and walk at the same time.
~aschuth #23
Oh. THAT'S why these folks stop to blow a bubble!
~MarciaH #24
You did not know? Now you do!!!
~aschuth #25
Lemme stop for a moment and think about this one...
~MarciaH #26
Just don't step on the discarded bubblegum...
~aschuth #27
Eh wot?
~MarciaH #28
(Have you not been reading this intelligent conversation we have been having about those too stupid to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time?!) You don't want to be the victim of one who chose to walk rather than chew...
~aschuth #29
Wait, gotta stop and think about this again.... hmh....
~MarciaH #30
*laugh*
~aschuth #31
...no no, don't disturb me, eh, wait, I'm, uh, hold on a minute...
~MarciaH #32
(holding on...)
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