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Topic 5 · 111 responses · archived october 2000
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~terry seed
Art on the web, where to find it. What are the cool art spots?
~terry #1
The full text of this article was posted on nettime today; I'm clipping it in the interest of respecting copyright, but am sorry to say I don't have the full URL. From http://www.nytimes.com: Leading Art Site Suspended By MATTHEW MIRAPAUL The Ada'web Web site, one of the most dynamic destinations for original Web-based art, is being suspended. Benjamin Weil, the co-founder of Ada'web, announced on Monday in an e-mail message that Digital City Inc., the site's publisher, had canceled its financing and that Ada'web would cease producing new artistic content. Weil is now seeking a permanent home for its archives so that its material can remain accessible. In a telephone interview on Monday afternoon, Weil (pronounced "vial") said the five Ada'web employees were expected to leave their Manhattan office by the end of the week. "It's not the most rejoicing news," Weil said. "However, this was more or less doomed to happen. Obviously, the compatibility between what Digital City is planning to do on the Web and what we've been doing is not clear. When companies restructure and refine their focus, what is not within that beam of focus is going to be taken away." Since it was conceived in late 1994, Ada'web has become one of the premier destinations for online creativity. Ultimately, it presented about 15 Web-specific projects by such high-profile contributors as the conceptual artist Lawrence Weiner. The site's first offering, launched officially in May 1995, was Jenny Holzer's "Please Change Beliefs." In contrast, Digital City is assembling a nationwide network of online guides to metropolitan areas, including Digital City New York. [snip]
~terry #2
for collaborative net/web art: http://www.sito.org
~doug #3
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~terry #6
I remembered that painting, it wasn't called the Jungle it was the "Dream" by Rousseau. The Dream by Rousseau 1910 (160 Kb); Oil on canvas, 6' 8 1/2" x 9' 9 1/2"; The Museum of Modern Art, New York You might just want to click on the image to get an enlargement!
~autumn #7
Thanks for sharing that, Terry, I'd never seen that painting before.
~terry #8
Really, wow. I had seen it so many times though high school and in art history class at U of I. Rousseau was impoverished and ridiculed in his day, and Picasso threw sort of a mocking celebration for him in 1908. I feel like he was falsely railed at in his day. I find The Dream to be compelling and imaginative.
~riette #9
Yes, Terry, I know the painting. The detail in it is astonishing. Henri Rousseau was a wonderful painter, and did these works around the turn of the century, Autumn. Another great 'jungly' painting by him I saw in the Orsay museum, Paris last year. It's called THE SNAKE CHARMER. But to me his most poignant work is WAR.
~terry #10
From the Paris, Web Museum: Rousseau, Henri, known as Le Douanier Rousseau (1844-1910). French painter, the most celebrated of na�ve artists. His nickname refers to the job he held with the Paris Customs Office (1871-93), although he never actually rose to the rank of `Douanier' (Customs Officer). Before this he had served in the army, and he later claimed to have seen service in Mexico, but this story seems to be a product of his imagination. He took up painting as a hobby and accepted early retirement in 1893 so he could devote himself to art. His character was extraordinarily ingenuous and he suffered much ridicule (although he sometimes interpreted sarcastic remarks literally and took them as praise) as well as enduring great poverty. However, his faith in his own abilities never wavered. He tried to paint in the academic manner of such traditionalist artists as Bouguereau and G�r�me, but it was the innocence and charm of his work that won him the admiration of the avant-garde: in 1908 Picasso gave a banquet, half serious half burlesque, in his honor. Rousseau is now best known for his jungle scenes, the first of which is Surprised! (Tropical Storm with a Tiger) (National Gallery, London, 1891) and the last The Dream (MOMA, New York, 1910). These two paintings are works of great imaginative power, in which he showed his extraordinary ability to retain the utter freshness of his vision even when working on a large scale and with loving attention to detail. He claimed such scenes were inspired by his experiences in Mexico, but in fact his sources were illustrated books and visits to the zoo and botanical gardens in Paris. His other work ranges from the jaunty humor of The Football Players (Philadelphia Museum of Art, 1908) to the mesmeric, eerie beauty of The Sleeping Gypsy (MOMA, 1897). Rousseau was buried in a pauper's grave, but his greatness began to be widely acknowledged soon after his death.
~riette #11
Do you have good art museums in Texas, Terry? Here in Z�rich I tend to visit galleries rather than the museum, which seems to consist mainly of great painters' cast-offs. While these are interesting, they don't exactly inspire me.
~terry #12
We're sadly lacking for art museums in Austin, and I don't know about Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. I grew up with a great art museum in St. Louis.
~riette #13
I see. Who did they exhibit there?
~terry #14
From their website http://www.slam.org "The Museum's collection of modern art has become one of the largest and most distinguished components of its holdings. It includes many outstanding examples of German Expressionist art, its core being 41 paintings by Max Beckmann, one of the century's greatest masters. The collection also includes works by early modern masters such as Paul C�zanne, Edgar Degas, Paul Gauguin, Wassily Kandinsky, Henri Matisse, Amedeo Modigliani, Claude Monet, Pablo Picasso, and Vincent van Gogh. More recent work by American and European artists is represented by Louise Bourgeois, Chuck Close, Philip Guston, Jenny Holzer, Ellsworth Kelly, Anselm Kiefer, Franz Kline, Roy Lichtenstein, Brice Marden, Joan Mitchell, Henry Moore, Claes Oldenburg, Martin Puryear, Gerhard Richter, Mark Rothko, and Frank Stella." It's a very complete museum with a great American art collection, African and ancient artifacts, Asian, Islamic, Oceanic, and European art.
~autumn #15
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~KitchenManager #18
for fantasy art, visit http://www.elfwood.com/
~terry #19
Tres cool, according to Bruce Sterling: Look at http://www.oasinet.com/postmedia/art/mori.html and the very cool http://www.artindex.com/openhouse/music.htm
~riette #20
Would Bruce Sterling not like to join us here, Terry?
~terry #21
I think he has a heavy schedule. Jetting to Paris, writing books, attending conferences, writing artcles for Wired, etc. It would be near impossible to get Bruce over here with his schedule. And he has a wife and two kids so I just don't see how he could squeeze anything else in, he knows us though and he lives in Austin.
~riette #22
Oh!! Thought he was just a friend of yours - didn't know he was a celebrity; I'm never up to date with that stuff. I'll have a look at his site as soon as I have a bit more time myself - this week everything is just crazy; the exhibition starts tomorrow.
~KitchenManager #23
a must to check out... http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/art.htm
~riette #24
Very useful page - thank you.
~KitchenManager #25
here's another one for you, Riette... definately check this one out http://www.artcafe.net/artcenter
~riette #26
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~riette #28
~terry #29
If you do look, be sure to use http://www.spring.net/search It's our rad, new search page.
~riette #30
Oh, COOL, Terry! Who's on a roll now?!
~terry #31
We're edgy and we're rollin'
~riette #32
like Jack and Jill down the hill!
~isis #33
hey didn't anyone warn jack and jill about that steep hill......
~KitchenManager #34
yeah, but they didn't listen... imagine that!
~riette #35
Hills are made for rollin'....
~KitchenManager #36
I thought the hills had eyes and were alive with the sound of music...
~riette #37
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~riette #39
~isis #40
I wanna rock and roll all night,,,and party everyday....nice song huh kitchen manager.....remember it,,,i do.....
~KitchenManager #41
and do you still remember how?
~riette #42
boy....
~KitchenManager #43
girl...
~riette #44
You mean you can tell??
~KitchenManager #45
if I search in the right spots...
~riette #46
Is that a promise? And what't that neat line you posted there?
~riette #47
Do you have neat buttons too?
~KitchenManager #48
~riette #49
~KitchenManager #50
that would be correct
~riette #51
Oh, you poor thing. I feel so sorry for you when you have these long, sleepless nights. I sleep well at the moment, but I sure know what it's like not to be able to sleep, and having no-one to keep you company.
~KitchenManager #52
but, you are...
~riette #53
only sporadically, and whining in your ears
~terry #54
The art conf background could be a bit more muted. What do you think?
~riette #55
NO! ha-ha! Terry, I hate pastels, that's all. I'd rather design something that'll read easier if it bothers you - but pleeeeeeeze don't take away the colours. Shall I do something else?
~terry #56
No, just playing devils advocate.
~riette #57
You mean, pushing my buttons. Just careful, 'cos if you push the wrong one, you might hit my G-spot! But seriously, I could make it less colours if you guys find it difficult to read. Just don't want it dimmed.
~terry #58
Sounds like fun.
~riette #59
~KitchenManager #60
no problem, working on the rest... I'll try and get the new art background up tomorrow...
~riette #61
Oh, that's okay, Wer. Please don't push yourself - you know what a kind and patient mistress I am... Sorry about all the bother with that background - people will probably hate it, and then I've bothered you for nothing!!
~KitchenManager #62
de nada...for the buttons I mentioned earlier, go to http://www.spring.net/~spew/b/ then come back and tells me what you think...
~wolf #63
i likes them. was working on some for poetry, myself....
~riette #64
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS, Wer!!!! PLEEZE give us buttons like that!!!! Mega mega cool! $hit, it's going to be fun designing the virtual gallery with you there!!!! I'm totally excited! The buttons will go brilliantly witht his background though, it's almost a shame to change it! Do you think we could try the new background for a couple of days, and if it doesn't look nice, change back?
~KitchenManager #65
sure...
~riette #66
thank you. And good morning!!
~KitchenManager #67
good morning...what do you think?
~riette #68
Not sure. Seems almost bleak compared to the other background. But it is easier to read on. What do you think?
~KitchenManager #69
not my conf...
~wolf #70
may i suggest deepening the original colors a tad? tho, i luv the new background, wer. i'm trying to come up with something dreamy but down to earth for poetry but there's just not enough time in the day. oh, got a question....how does one make a background? i've got microsoft image composer and it's great but i tried to design a background and it ended up being tiled on my test page. how do i know if a design is big enough to be used as a background without repeating itself like a tile?
~KitchenManager #71
you can't because different people have different screen resolutions...when I can refind the dimensions for 640 x 480, I'll post them up in here...
~riette #72
I have no idea how to deepen colours, Wolf. You are speaking to the Spring Computing Moron, remember!
~KitchenManager #73
I'll give it a shot and see what happens...
~riette #74
Thanks, Wer!! What would I have done without you?
~KitchenManager #75
another museum list http://212.net/museums/index.htm
~riette #76
Got that one!!! WER, THE BACKGROUND!!!!! Please! I promise I'll not attempt another change soon - just bring the old one back!!
~KitchenManager #77
um, okay...
~riette #78
WER!!!! Where is it??? I can't read on this, and am seriously getting eye-fu�ked!
~KitchenManager #79
this is the old background...don't know what you're talking about now...
~riette #80
Seriously?!?! Why didn't anyone tell me it was so bad????? I HATE it now! Going to make another.
~terry #81
5. BOOKMARKS ============================================================ http://artnetweb.com/iola Over There http://www.overthere.com.au/ Diane Caney's creative, professional and academic identity. BowieNet http://www.DavidBowie.com/ David Bowie, Internet Service Provider. site http://www.sirius.com/~schizo/index.htm Architectural researcher. ArtLex http://www.artlex.com/ Dictionary of visual art. Art Station http://www.artstation.co.uk An art site by Iris & Ami Ben David that provokes questions about the influence of the Internet on art and art exhibition. Transnacionala http://www.kud-fp.si/trans/ Eastern European artists discover America -- sort of. CraNma http://CraNma.thing.net/ A communication module which filters and reorganizes information for masses. Spike http://www.hedweb.com/spike/welcome.htm Picking the brains of popular culture. Scars http://pleine-peau.com/scars/scars/index.html Stories and photography from Pleine Peau Crash Media http://www.yourserver.co.uk/crashmedia/ Looks at independent media around the world. JavaScript Source Library http://www.javascriptsource.com/ Hundreds of scripts which can be copied and used free of charge, from Mecklermedia. k.i.s.s. of the panopticon http://carmen.artsci.washington.edu/panop/home.htm Cultural theory and new media literacy. If you have suggestions or contributions send them to: murph@artnetweb.com
~riette #82
Five??
~terry #83
It was copied and pasted off of some bookmarks and this was the fifth set of them.
~sonja #84
??
~terry #85
They're some interesting artsy bookmarks with the number 5 cryptically as a heading, what can I say?
~sonja #86
Say no more - I'm sure the others understand it perfectly!
~terry #87
You mean I'm off the hook?
~riette #88
I understand now! Geez, that took long - sorry, Terry!
~terry #89
s' ok.
~sonja #90
s'ok
~riette #91
s'cool
~KitchenManager #92
ChannelP.com is the leading producer of arts related streaming media entertainment, designed specifically for "netcast" on the World Wide Web. Located in the heart of New York City ChannelP.com brings 'downtown art and culture' to a worldwide audience. ChannelP.com presents multidisciplinary programming, including visual art, literature, film, spoken word, theatre, dance, music and performance art. ChannelP.com also presents tangential programming on fashion, sports and the eclectic array of downtown culture. http://www.channelp.com/
~riette #93
At least you're posting in my conference...
~terry #94
Their site of the month is http://www.literal-latte.com/ With the same slick, glitzy, cool look and feel. The "pseduo online network" let's yout watch videos while you chat, we could kind of do that with our webcam. I'd like to know the technology they're using because it's snappier and shows more frames than our webcam.
~KitchenManager #95
not sure, but you can register to be an affiliate and broadcast their content from your site. I would like to do that, but I'm not RealAudio compliant at the moment... (of course I am, Mistress...)
~terry #96
We're setting up a Realaudio Server on access.spring.net.
~ratthing #97
cool! need help?
~KitchenManager #98
got milk?
~terry #99
I would love it if you could set this up, Ray!
~ratthing #100
email sent to terry. wer: i'm lactose intolerant ;)
~KitchenManager #101
they have pills for that...
~wolf #102
yeah, and lactaid! *grin*
~KitchenManager #103
http://www.EsotericArt.com/fringe/art/gallery/GreenMan/JKWilliams.htm
~terry #104
DING AN SICH An extremely beautiful and poetic use of imagery, music, and text wrapped together in a series of Shockwave interactive pieces. Slow download but definitely worth the wait. Great art site! Written by the artist: "The title and philosophical ground for the work refers to the concept of the "Thing Itself" defined by Immanuel Kant in his "Critique of Pure Reason" as the reality of the thing--the essence beyond the knowledge of appearances." http://www.walkerart.org/gallery9/artists/dingansich/
~KitchenManager #105
http://www.gifworks.com/ It's an online GIF image editor. This unique tool is completely on-line -- nothing to download or install. Better yet, it's ABSOLUTELY FREE -- no prepaid tokens or subscriptions.
~MarciaH #106
A great free graphics site: http://www.bsugraphics.com/
~KitchenManager #107
it is where the background and bars in the tv conference came from...
~MarciaH #108
With The new buttons this is truly Art on the Web in capital letters (but I'm not gonna post it like that...) Absolutely amazing!
~terry #109
http://www.geocities.com/michaelhaanel/Studio.html michael-haanel@well.com's website
~terry #110
Donna Atwood is working on a book, details at http://www.riatoz.com contact: atwood@amug.org or donna@riatoz.com Donna is one of the finest illustrators around, I've been after her for ages to help with some Spring graphics and a logo. Hope she drops by sometime.
~terry #111
http://yonos.stumbleupon.com/ highly recommended. yonos's reviews Active Dec 11 � Joined Dec 25/03 's: 17310 � Fans: 751 Common Interests: Swimming, Ecommerce, Real Estate, Basketball, New Age, Entrepreneurship, Coffee, Mobile Computing, Shareware, Web Development, Windows, Open Source, Cyberculture Michael as similar interests to mine and a killer stumble blog!
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