Lizzie: the first move?

Do they kiss?!?! Are you absolutely certain without a doubt in your mind? No seriously...I shall leave you now... Must hurry home to watch and pause and form an opinion!

Ann2, here is what happens..... They are looking at each other, smiling. Then, their smiles start to fade, as they look at each other more intently. Lizzie glances down to his mouth, and back up to his eyes. He looks at her mouth, then back up to her eyes as they both start to lean in toward each other, slowly (bouncing around, naturally, with the motion of the carriage). His head is inclined naturally to the left (the better to see her face), but as they come closer he changes to lean to the right (the only artificial part of the s ene, because the only reason to do so is that the kiss would be blocked from the camera by his hat). Then they kiss, he parting his lips ever so slightly before they touch hers. They are kissing as the camera slows to a still shot....... There you are....

Mari, I like the way you described the kiss. I liked it very well indeed. Would you care to take a stab at putting the Pemberley look into words? (Actually it might fit better the romance thread, but no matter, really. )

I will not be at work tomorrow, but I will do my (ahem..) research tomorrow night (and maybe tonight also!), and Friday we will see how I get on.

Mari, you are quite ingenious. I was getting totally exicted just reading what you wrote. Oh not in that way!!! But I could envision everything that happened. Did you have your VCR on pause and moved slowly during that scene? Pray tell!!

Thank you all for your high praise, indeed. Laura, I did not watch in slow motion, or pause; I merely rewound the tape over and over and over.... Looking at a different facet each time. First her eyes, then his, then her mouth, then his mouth.... What is a viewing of one scene 50 times when one has a good VCR? Yes, I call it an easy task, indeed.

Mari, just had occasion to read all the contributions above again as a victim of 'old is new'. Did you ever attempt to do the same with the Pemberley 'look'? If not, how about considering the project in the near future. I think that viewing the 'look' 50 times in succession just because you have a good VCR would have to be one of the all-time happiest projects to undertake (the chores can wait!)

Somehow I missed this thread my first time through, but I did mention in another thread that it appeared to me also that Elizabeth initiates the kiss. Not that I blame her, mind!

and think of darcy's response to having such a beautiful bride be so bold! if he had any reservations about the wedding night, i'm sure lizzy's kiss certainly erased his doubts!

Oh god, over to the drooling thread?

I'll try to keep this PG -- I think Darcy realized from Lizzy's passion for the great outdoors; her general vivacity & joy in life; that she was NOT going to be a cold fish on that wedding night!

Thanks for the cold shower, Amy (or is it the cooling dip in the pond?) ... I for one needed it!

I'd be more than happy to join Mr. D. in that pond if he asked me!

I sometimes wonder from whence we all got the idea that Lizzy had a "passion" for the outdoors. Perhaps from the same source which we derived that she would have scored "Etrovert" on a temperament-sorter test? Just curious - because I'm not sure that either conclusion is entirely correct.

Lizzy's willingness to walk three miles, I guess. Though you are right, the impression is mostly put in our heads by Davies.

Austen also has her taking frequent walks.

Even I like taking walks outside, Ann...but I'm no happy camper...;)

Austen has her taking many walks, walking to Netherfield, lighter and faster runner than Jane (running to their father re: letter from Mr. Gardiner) and that is all in the book. Also, at Netherfield, she'd rather walk off on her own that with Darcy, CB and Mrs. Hurst - she obviously enjoyed looking at nature. And when she and the Gardiners went on their trip she said they would remember all their sights, etc., more so than other travellers.

Would you call this a passion for the outdoors? Or a simple appreciation? ;)

I'd call it a love rather than a passion. I think she'd rather be outdoors than continually indoors a la Mary or Caroline Bingley, and she'd be just as happy alone or with others so long as the company was agreeable! But I think her passion she kept for Darcy!;-)

P.S. to above. In today's world I can easily see Lizzie as an environmentalist, with a love of nature and preserving the world's forests -- she'd also be a hiker through these forests!;-)

P.S. to above. In today's world I can easily see Lizzie as an environmentalist, with a love of nature and preserving the world's forests -- she'd also be a hiker through these forests!;-)

Let's not get carried away...we all love the forests, but we're not all environmental lawyers...! ;)

Passion : definition 3# - Boundless enthusiasm. Yes, I think 'passion' is an appropriate description in light of the times and her contemporaries.

I think Davies makes reference to Austen having Lizzie "gambol about" t.o. the book. And doesn't she express a real appreciation for the grounds at Pemberley as well?

and wasn't she disappointed in not getting to see all the lake country?

Cindy: and wasn't she disappointed in not getting to see all the lake country? For a time...for a short time...;-)