About our addiction

Last few messages: __ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 109 of 126: Linda In Ga. (Darcyfan) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (09:20) * 1 lines How abou this one....when you have paid $100 for the video and you still watch A&E to see the rebroadcasted series...commercials in all...because you can't bear the thought of it playing somewhere without you watching.....addicted and no turning back!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 110 of 126: Wendy (summit) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (22:41) * 1 lines Sad but true, Linda...and I must say the commercials realy chopped up the flow of the purist version, too, and nearly rendered it unpalatable to me (despite the charms of Darcy)... :-/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 111 of 126: Anne (Yeago) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (12:22) * 1 lines Y'all are cracking me up. not wanting to let others know, I have referd to CF as "that guy who played Darcy". I thought I had flipped out and was all alone!! Guess not.:-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 112 of 126: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (12:42) * 4 lines Anne: I thought I had flipped out and was all alone!! Guess not.:-) No, no, not at all...you are in quite good company here! ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 113 of 126: Myretta (mrobens) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (14:16) * 5 lines Cheryl: No, no, not at all...you are in quite good company here! ;-) This is not good company. It is the best. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 114 of 126: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (15:35) * 2 lines ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 115 of 126: Inko (Inko) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (16:46) * 3 lines You are addicted when you write a story about Young Fitz and your mind thinks of him as a smaller version of Darcy in P&P2, down to the dagginess and all!!!;-) My husband now refers to me as Little Fitz' mother, not realizing that it's the grown up Fitz I'm after!!;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 116 of 126: Sharon (sld) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (19:23) * 4 lines [when you have paid $100 for the video and you still watch A&E to see the rebroadcasted series...commercials in all...] Okay, Linda, you are probably leading the pack! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 117 of 126: Katy Kendall (kendall) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (22:05) * 3 lines ..because you can't bear the thought of it playing somewhere without you watching .. Linda, I did not watch it on A&E this past showing - but I felt I should be! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 118 of 126: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (23:32) * 5 lines Inko: You are addicted when you write a story about Young Fitz and your mind thinks of him as a smaller version of Darcy in P&P2, down to the dagginess and all!!!;-) Ooh, be careful Inko...that's illegal in some states! ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 119 of 126: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (23:43) * 5 lines Inko: You are addicted when you write a story about Young Fitz and your mind thinks of him as a smaller version of Darcy in P&P2, down to the dagginess and all!!!;-) Ooh, be careful Inko...that's illegal in some states! ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 120 of 126: Mary C. Fox (MaryC) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (23:58) * 1 lines Count me in your club Linda. I actually did more listening than watching (except for my favorite parts) and amazingly heard dialogue I had never picked up on before because I was too busy watching the action in the scene. I was especially amazed to hear secondary dialogue in several of the scenes that I had totally missed before. And the commercials on 'Emma' were actually fun to watch, I am looking forward to Sunday night! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 121 of 126: marina pineda-kamariotis (mpk) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (04:29) * 4 lines I was there too, Linda...I recorded in the early evening hours and then tried to watch what I could when it was repeated 1-2 hours later! For now, that tape will have to satiate my appetite until I get my Costco tapes back! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 122 of 126: Johanne (JohanneD) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (12:23) * 3 lines Kathy : Linda, I did not watch it on A&E this past showing - but I felt I should be! So I'm not alone in this! The phone rang and after the fourth ring (the last one before call waiting kicks in) picked it up anyway! While trying to have a descent conversation, my mind kept tracking the dialogue, the music. Utterly felt guilty! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 123 of 126: Candace (candace) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (19:48) * 1 lines Addicted...who me? While listening to the P&P2 sound track in my car every morning while driving to work, I keep finding myself at the appropiate moment blurting out such things as..."Your too plain to look well in it", Oh Mr. Collins, Mr. Darcy?!...Miss Bennett?!, etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 124 of 126: Lola (breezin) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (22:55) * 7 lines Addicted when you... -have an invisible DarcyMeterMirageFace that appears in your imagination next to the face of any semi-cute guy you're looking at, as a sort of yardstick of perfection against which all men are instantly judged -want to pust the video on pause or slow frames when there a close-up of him so you can sneak up to the set and "give him a screen test kiss" (as opposed to the miniature CyberKiss Colin only reachable by the click of your mouse/finger) -the worst is if you sometimes imagine it's CF you're with , not your significant other, in a private moment (haven't done this myself but can imagine the shock if the wrong name slipped out inadvertently!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 22 of 185 [austen]: 12 signs that you are addicted to P&P2 Response 125 of 126: Susan Christie (Susan) * Sat, Feb 15, 1997 (00:04) * 3 lines have an invisible DarcyMeterMirageFace that appears in your imagination next to the face of any semi-cute guy you're looking at, as a sort of yardstick of perfection against which all men are instantly judged Oh, you are BAD, Lola -- but you are NOT alone!

I was perusing the Old BB Archives, when I came across my first post on Sept. 17,1996! In vain have I struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love P&P2. I, too, am hopelessly addicted, and would post numbers very similar to Tommye's were it not for the guilt and shame such numbers would oblige me to feel. My addiction has even lead me to repeated viewings alone, and in secret lest scenes arise unpleasant towards more than myself ("you're not watching that AGAIN?") I get my daily fix of Jane Austen by being an avid lurker of Austen-L, but my longing for more Darcy and Elizabeth was not satisfied until I stumbled on this BB a few days ago. Finally, people who know and understand what I am going through! But, like Tommye, I do not desire a cure, but an overdose (is such a thing possible?) Well, in the ensuing months, I believe I have finally overdosed, but like a true addict, my first thought upon regaining consciousness is "more!" Thank you all for five fabulous months, and the care and support you lend to me and my addiction! PS. What ever happened to Tommye? :-(

I miss Tommye too, and felt her absense when I wandered through the archives. Doesn't it seem longer than 5 months? So glad you found us, Cheryl. You brighten up my day every single day.

Amy: *samooch*

Okay, everyone, here's what happened at lunch today: My dearest hubby, who, I believe enjoys hearing about everything as much as I enjoy being here, drew a parallel between what goes on here and the Rocky Horror Pic Show craze of our college days. He actually thinks that we ought to be required to dress in period costumes as we watch the video in obsession! (nobody does that, do they?)

and, if they do where can I get one?

(nobody does that, do they?) and, if they do where can I get one? We ALL do that, Cindy. Didn't anyone tell you? Johanne will provide you with the patterns.

Cheryl....I love that first post! Fresh from being in your addiction all alone...just finding the rest of us....is there such a thing as an overdose????? "-want to pust the video on pause or slow frames when there a close-up of him so you can sneak up to the set and "give him a screen test kiss" (as opposed to the miniature CyberKiss Colin only reachable by the click of your mouse/finger)"................Don't you just love the way your hair stands straight up from the static electricty when you do that..or is it from the kiss?????

Linda, it must be the kiss.Kissing Mel Gibson on the screen does not have the same effect.Honest. ;-}

parallel between what goes on here and the Rocky Horror Pic Show craze Cindy -- LOL -- I have often thought about doing this. In fact when Kali and I met last December, we discussed just this object. Could you not see it? Speaking right along with the dialogue, yelling out "Duck Face" at Miss Bingley, throwing popcorn at the screen and screaming "Liar! Liar!" when Wickham comes on, sighing out loud in unison during "The Look", etc. I could go on and on! Well, arrange it Cindy, I'll be there in my little muslin dress and bonnett!

...oh, one more: Everyone in unison chanting "Left, Right, Left, Right" ;-)

prob: I think I'm RL geographically way out of everyone else's reach. I seem to remember somebody's being in Houston, but it sounds more like there's lots in NE and upper MW. I was exceedingly disappointed that the Boston group didn't appear to be appropriately attired

well, there was one in the group who did appear to be wearing (or not) his clothes well

We also made up a P&P drinking game. Everytime your character says "indeed" you have to chug.

I love it!

So, I suppose the designated driver gets to be Ann deBourg?

Caroline...[Kissing Mel Gibson on the screen does not have the same effect.Honest.} I believe you...I believe you...I believe you!!!!! Candace....[Could you not see it? Speaking right along with the dialogue, yelling out "Duck Face" at Miss Bingley, throwing popcorn at the screen and screaming "Liar! Liar!" when Wickham comes on, sighing out loud in unison during "The Look", etc.} You don't do this?????? I knew I had gone too far!

Lines that must be spoken in unison; Other way, Mr. Collins.. Hearts, Mr. Collins, hearts! I would that he had sprained his ankle in the first dance. Astonishing.. and.. is it true? Abominable reply; how shall we punish him? They are hard upon our heels, make haste, make haste... Shelves in the closet...happy thought, indeed. I can't speak over any of Mr. Darcy's lines, for that would prevent me from hearing that lovely voice, so that I can play it back again accurately in my dreams. BTW, we will, of course, execute the entire MB Maggot, shall we not? I would like to see Amy and HC as the first couple, with Cheryl and Ann right behind...

]Lines that must be spoken in unison; How about AWWWW I want to go to Brighton!!! or Obstinate, headstrong gel!

hee hee Okay I can hear the inflections exactly, but not so sure I can reproduce them. In the same vein (should this be a new topic?): Why do American women (all Amer. women, as far as I know) melt instantaneously when we hear a gorgeous Brit. accent? At work we even have a hideous creature (well, extremely unattractive, anyway) from Australia that we deal with who melts the hearts, so long as we only have to listen to the voice. (He's also a fair geek, so once we get to know him, the magic certainly wears off, but let a new woman into our office, and we have to peel her off the floor to hang up the phone)

ROTFLOL - ladies - I cannot contribute anything to this madness until I go away and finish laughing. 'So, I suppose the designated driver gets to be Ann deBourg?" ... "throwing popcorn at the screen and screaming "Liar! Liar!" when Wickham comes on" ... you are so funny!

] Why do American women (all Amer. women, as far as I know) melt instantaneously when we hear a gorgeous Brit. accent? ]At work we even have a hideous creature (well, extremely unattractive, anyway) from Australia ... Hate to say it ladies, but it's been a long time since (most) Australians thought of themselves as British. I know you guys have trouble distinguishing our accents (most of the time people assume I'm British, which most of my English friends think is hysterical) But if you think he's got a cute accent its because its AUSTRALIAN... I'd have to say that we (that is most Australian women of my acquantance) don't get very excited about American accents. But when a Scot starts talking.... ;-) (that's purely personal and not meant to apply to all those other Aussie women out there)

How I love Aussie accents..........

Mari...I love those! How about these: No lace, no lace, Mrs. Bennet, I beg you! ..Are three of the silliest girls in England. All? What? All five out at once? How much I shall have to conceal! Yes, go, go...I would not wish you back again. Perhaps we might visit Pemberley after all! Of all this I might have been mistress. (one of my favorites) Who is it? You will never guess! Who is it? Mr Darcy! Engaged to Mr. Darcy! No, you are joking!

We need more lines, of course, so do not hesitate to add to them. But I believe that we need some additional couples lines up for our version of MB Maggot; how could I forget Kali and Jeremy Knightley?

Seeing no photo as yet here of our delectable Colin Firth, here 'tis:

Hmm. Or, go see it at... http://www.grin.net/~meluchie/firthlist/fl_colin.htm

That link.. Now, I don't speak any Finnish. But I think I can work out what SEKSISYMBOLI means in relation to CF.

]lines which must be spoken in unison the whole of Mrs. Bennet's 'fluttering' speech, ending with (paraphrasing since I haven't seen it this week) "Brother, if you are not kind to us, I do not know what we shall do!"

My dear Kate (and everyone else), I certainly intended no slight on anyone at all. My grouping of the Brit, Aussie, ... accents was undoubtedly the result of my own ear's inadequate discernment, I know. Please do not shoot me. I certainly can hear some distinct qualities, but my lumping them together is more a function of the result they produce, rather than an assumption that there is no difference. I don't doubt that the American accents don't generate the same drool potential in others! Heavens, we tend to poke fun at our own regional differences, as well. However, I still maintain that these (accents of people who speak English as their native tongue, regardless of the country - except USA) have a mighty power over the average, unsuspecting, red-blooded, American female. Anybody? [now, did I fix it?]

Unison lines: has anybody suggested the several "Oh, Mr. Bennet!"s

I suggest some of us wear snouts so we can snort along with Lydia!

] I certainly intended no slight on anyone at all And absolutely none was taken Cindy. I was just using the opportunity to vent a bit. I quite like being mistaken for a Brit occasionally. People are actually quite shocked to think we don't all sound like Paul Hogan. It's especially amusing because some upper class Brits regard OUR accent as particularly obnoxious, so when they discover that many Americans can't tell the difference, they get a bit miffed!!! So just enjoy that Aussie male, aurally if not in person. I can let you know where there are more, if that would help!!

so, I grovelled for nothing?

Fraid so. :-)

33 : People are actually quite shocked to think we don't all sound like Paul Hogan. Know the feeling, a couple of years ago someone thought I was from France, and when I told him I came from Quebec, never did he know some were speaking french in North America and to my knowledge he still do not believe it (thinks I was pulling his leg)

Well, now that we have established how wonderful it would be for all of us together to do a "Rocky Horror Picture Show" event with P&P2, do you think that if we got our husbands and significant others together they would act more like "Mystery Science Theater 3000"?

can you imagine the gnashing of teeth trying to get them to fill out the couples for the Maggot? not a happy thought

But when a Scot starts talking.... ;-) Heavy, HEAVY *sigh* ...and the Irish ain't too bad, neither! Another favorite (I'm paraphrasing here): You will be sorely missed, Lizzie. Until you and your sister Jane return, I shall not hear two words of sense spoken together.

Re American's fascination with British accents and the rest of the world being decidedly unimpressed with American ones: The culprit here is American movies and television. They are all over the world, Baywatch is the highest rated American television show overseas, for heaven's sake! The American accent is all pervasive and holds no mystery, no allure, it is too common the world over. But in the US, we hear British accents almost exclusively on PBS and in highly cultured, literary adaptations. It is no wonder that we find the British accent to be intellegent, sophisticated, mysterious. The lesson, my friends is that familiarity does indeed breed contempt!

Susan, thanks for mentioning the Irish! Reading your comment, I just remembered the name of the miniseries that introduced Pierce Brosnan to me - The Manions of America. I forget what his character, but decidedly less polished than Remington Steele, but ever so nice

"The culprit here is American movies and television. They are all over the world, Baywatch is the highest rated American television show overseas, for heaven's sake!" Actually, I think "Babewatch" has been supplanted by "Hercules"!! Which I actually think might be a slight improvement. "Hercules" has a sense of humor about itself. I loved "Mannions of America". My best friend and I met and became friends because of that show and later "Remington Steele".

I cannot believe it! I have just uploaded 300 sound bytes from P&P2 (many requested by people in the Pemberley chat room, yet you have chosen many that are NOT on the list! If your browser can do sounds, click on the underlined quotes. Some are a bit large and you might have to wait 2 or 3 minutes for them to transfer. (For a complete list of what is already uploaded, check out topic 17 in the Austentest conference.) Lines that must be spoken in unison; Other way, Mr. Collins.. Hearts, Mr. Collins, hearts! I would that he had sprained his ankle in the first dance. Astonishing.. and.. is it true? Abominable reply; how shall we punish him? They are hard upon our heels, make haste, make haste! Shelves in the closet...happy thought, indeed. AWWWW I want to go to Brighton!!! Obstinate, headstrong gel! No lace, no lace, Mrs. Bennet, I beg you! ..Are three of the silliest girls in England. All? What? All five out at once? How much I shall have to conceal! Yes, go, go...I would not wish you back again. Perhaps we might visit Pemberley after all! Of all this I might have been mistress. (one of my favorites) Who is it? You will never guess! Who is it? Mr Darcy! Engaged to Mr. Darcy! No, you are joking! You will be sorely missed, Lizzie. Until you and your sister Jane return, I shall not hear two words of sense spoken together.

What a treasure-trove of goodies! Maybe we need to change the name of this thread to 'Feeding our Addiction.

[some upper class Brits regard OUR accent as particularly obnoxious, so when they discover that many Americans can't tell the difference, they get a bit miffed!!!] Kate, Some upperclass Brits regard anything outside their own circle as obnoxious! Fortunately for us, our favourite upperclass Brit, residing in Derbyshire, does learn his lesson. May I say here that I find many North American accents delightful? Iam paricularly fond of the Newfoundland and Georgia ones!

In years of traveling alone to large meetings, when surrounded by strangers, I learned to listen for Georgia and Mississippi accents. The people who used them were the most open to welcoming a lone 40-something woman into their conversations - to their table at the banquet.

Oh, what a nice recommendation!

Okay, Katy, tell . Why are people from Geo'ga and MississIppee so friendly?

Why are people from Geo'ga and MississIppee so friendly?... I do not know. May it was only very gracious manners and not friendliness at all. I only learned that on those occassions then I was without acquaintances and was running low on social 'moxie', I could count on GA and MS natives for safe anchorage. Since my own accept is hybrid "Mid-West-East-Tennessee-Southern-Ontario" that no one in the country identifies with, it was not because I sounded 'like home' to them. Once, during a budget conscious time in our travel department, I (and many others in the meeting group) ended up with a rather scary three block walk between the hotel and the convention center. Any man would kindly accept my company between buildings if I asked him to. GA and MS men seemed to look around for women going their way and would offer their company for the walk.

Well, I must tell you my story about a very witty southerner. This is a true story. We had flown into Kansas City, MO, and had a car reserved at Thrifty Car Rental. They were off-site, and we had to take a shuttle there. It was about 10 pm. When we got there, there were only two people ahead of us, so it looked pretty good. 30 minutes later we had been joined by more arrivals, who all waited and watched with us in increasing exasperation at the inefficiency of their check-in routine, and the dim-wit edness of the staff. We had yet to be waited on. At this point, all three of the staff had left the office on some part of their mysterious duties, and one woman in the crowd said, clearly and calmly, ''This is the slowest place I've ever been, and I'm from Alabama''. The room was still resounding with snickers 10 minutes later when we were finally called to the counter. Five years later I still grin when I think about this, or whenever I meet anyone from Alabama!

Another sign: Your friends ask you why are you so quiet, how can you explain you're thinking about the next chapter in Anne's story?

LOL, Aylet ! And you are never bored, cause if there is a spare moment you can sink back into P&P and write a few words...

]Your friends ask you why are you so quiet, how can you explain you're thinking about the next chapter in Anne's story? Or you look forward to doing tasks you previously hated (copying comes to mind) because it gives you time to work out a sticky plot situation.

Isn't it horrible when you have to do housework and homework instead of dreaming about P&P!

Caroline, you are wasting valuable dreaming time! An essential part of any routine household chore is the opportunity it gives you to daydream about P&P. My husband is beginning to wonder why the living room carpet suddenly needs such frequent vacuuming (just call me Livia....)

LOL Mari! Is it getting threadbare and worn out? I must try to join work and pleasure like you do...My home is beginning to look all forsaken and neglected...As I have to devote my mind to other things only vaguely connected to Austen or Darcy when I am at work, I tend to consider myself entitled to some reverie and private videoviewing, springvisiting or patchworking for the fan fic when I am at home. An occasional rush to the washingmachine or kitchen is done to hush my conscience...

Ann2: I entice myself to complete some chore by *rewarding* myself with videowatching, springvisiting and netsurfing; however, it is more likely than not that the dishes stack up! Another line to chant in unison: Capital! Capital! I really love the idea of holding a P&P audience participation party ala Rocky Horror. Perhaps alternating the *party* sites to accomodate the geographic distances of all our sisters and brothers?

Another line to chant in unison: "And tell Lydia, not to make any directions about wedding clothes till she had seen me, for she does not know which are the best warehouses!!!

How about this line: (as best I remember)"He's looks as handsome as his portrait, though perhaps not so formally attired!" Thanks to everyone for reassuring me that I am not going crazy. I first saw P&P2 when it was last on A&E, promptly ordered the tapes, and have watched them 3 times in the span of 10 days. My husband has threatened to hide them from me, and I had begun to think I needed to see a shrink. I replay my favorite scenes over and over in my head. I used to laugh at my Trekkie colleagues and their obsessions--looks like the last laugh is on me. If I am crazy, I see I've got great company!

Joanna -- this is not just great company, it is the best place for all of us. Everyone here understands what the others are going through. No more need to hide from everyone!

Joanne, welcome to the crowd. But, let me warn you--this obsession doesn't go away any time soon - I've had it for a year longer than you!! I saw P&P2 the first time it aired in Jan. '96, and thought I was really out of my mind for the next 9 months until I went online and found this group. Now I know I'm out of mind, but only in the best company!!;-)

Big welcome Joanna, received a similar reaction from hubby, but told him he could keep is computer videogames as long as I have my tapes :) ]this obsession doesn't go away any time soon Actually, think of it as the Universe, it expands neverendlessly

It is not just Jane Austen novels, movies, books or Colin Firth but it is computer related too.

Joanna, my husband has suggested for all the hubbies to start another bulletin board on how to get their wives back in perspective, focused and less obssessed!! So, you're not alone.. especially in here.

Joanna, my husband has suggested for all the hubbies to start another bulletin board on how to get their wives back in perspective, focused and less obssessed!! So, you're not alone.. especially in here. __ Nothing so easy: Let him register for it here, on the conference index page. http://208.199.212.10/yapp-bin/restricted/index Only the thing is, we run it. The thing about "getting" their wives back in perspective, Serena? Tell him to go ahead and use that kind of language on the new conference. And see where it gets him.

LOL...when I read your post to my husband, he said that he sees our illness more like a cold...it has to run it's course.

Let's FEED this cold!

I am a new to the group and must say I am thankful to have found you. I recently saw P1 and P2 on A and E. I was hooked. Since then I have found my self scouring the bookstores for the book "The making of Pride and Prejudice", I sent away for the "Darcy Story" and have watched the videos of Pride and Prejudice countless number of times. I thought I was going abit strange that is until I found other addicts to the story. Bless all of you. I love reading all all of your observations and hope that I to will contibute in some small way for now it is comforting to know that there are others liked me who are hooked.

I'm thankful you're here. Welcome!

Well, while I was home alone yesterday, I had time to secretly skim through my favorite parts of P&P2. Each time I do, I get a new perspective on fleeting glances, casual remarks, etc. Also, I finally got my hands on a copy of The Making of Pride and Prejudice and am wondering: if the site for the Bennett's residence is the same place that is pictured at the beginning and end of my favorite Britcom, To the Manor Born? The angle of the photo on the cover of The Making of Pride and Prejudice is very similar to the angle of the one on To the Manor Born, giving them the similarity I had not noticed before.

I was delighted to find all of you -- I thought I was the only one addicted watching Darcy on P&P, over and over again. This addiction has been going on over a year now since I first was stunned to see it on A & E. I keep reading the book and going back to the video. Saw the full 6 hours the other day from the video store (can't yet afford to own it) and loved seeing the extra scenes - especially of Darcy. Thank you so much for being here - I don't feel so guilty for my sneaking glimpses of P & P ever week now that I know there are others out there who share my passion.

There are lots of us, and CF as Darcy seems to be one of the glues that holds us all together! You might also want to try http://www2.shore.net/~mrobens/

Thanks, Susan for telling me about the BB and the Republic of Pemberly! I got a quick glimpse of it tonight. I plan on getting there as soon as I can, when my 15 year old isn't pacing behind me waiting for me to get off the computer. I can't concentrate on writing about CF and Darcy when a family member is staring at me -- somehow I feel silly (or guilty). But, perhaps a quick question can be sent off -- why isn't CF in the magazines more here in the U.S.? Or, have I been looking in the wrong places. And did anyone think Darcy looked like Elvis in the scene where he looked back at Elizabeth on his way out the door at the Inn when she told him about Lydia -- was it just the made-up eyebrows and sideburns or perhaps the "look"? Just a crazy thought, but perhaps this is part of the appeal. And why didn't he look as dashing in the English Patient? Sorry, I'm getting carried away.

Yep, you're hooked. There are lots of U.S. articles; for a start, try Friends of Firth at: http://www.grin.net/~meluchie/firthlist/ We CRr's like him in just about every role; I didn't notice the Elvis sighting, though. Liked him a lot in Nostromo as Charles Gould, but he hasn't topped Darcy for me yet.

Yes, indeed you could, and may say I'm hooked on all this and it's a good thing I'm half English so that I have a good excuse to be interested in P&P, etc. etc. Here I am at 12 (or is it 1am? The clocks just changed) I have been trying for 2 hours to get onto AOL with no avail. I was going to try to get on to FOF and, or Shore.net, but tomorrow is another day. For now I just want to say I taped Nostromo but haven't had the nerve to watch it yet since its long and everyone at my house would notice and ay "isn't that the guy that was in P&P?". I have the Valmont tape and secretly watch that now and then -- bet you can guess what scenes (l loved CF in that) Also, I enjoyed the movie the Advocate (Didn't like him in Circle of friends, though). By the way, I don't mean to be dense, but who are the CR's? I know who CF is. I do want to talk Jane and her books/movies, but you all have sooo many discussion sites and topics I'm still reading what you've all said already, before I start putting my two cents (or pence) in -- I've thought alot about JA and read all her books several times (esp. P&P). Went to a JA lunchen where the topic was why is JA so popular now . I've got my own little view on that one, and I'm finding out that several women I'v known well for 20 years have been passionate JA fans all these years! And a couple of their husbands enjoyed P&P as well. My significant other said he liked P&P the best of all the JA movies (that I made him watch). Thank goodness, it gave me an excuse to rave on about it.

Didn't like him in Circle of friends, though. I liked his acting, as always, but I didn't like the character Simon. Besides being a jerk, he was too effeminate or something for me. And I don't like the mustache on Colin without a beard to go along with it. By the way, I don't mean to be dense, but who are the CR's? You're not dense; I am!!! I meant "CF" -- that was a typo that I didn't catch until after I'd already sent the message! I have only been a JA fan for about 8 years, but I'm a whole-hearted one. I really love her writing; it's so witty. Haven't been able to get my husband interested in any part of it. You're lucky!

Since the link for the Drool conference isn't operative, try this when any of you want to post over there on CF, etc.: http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/drool/all

Is THAT why nobody's posting over there? I can still get in, and was missing the comments. Thanks, Jake; c'mon, ladies, let's DROOL!

Amy wrote that she coded the link with the old ip address, so I need to get in there and code in the new ip address. Or put in a relative link. Any html'ers among the survivors here?

Thanks for assuring me about the CR's and my sanity! I've noticed that a couple of my words had letters chopped off (a "y" and "e" ) when my communications were submitted -- can't figure out yet why. I have enough of a English grammar handicap, but I can spell "I've". I greatly admire and esteem JA's writing. I know I read P&P in high school, but didn't really appreciate her until a couple of years ago when I read P&P again (before the movies came out). I started to work at a high school library (yes another library person - but I'm not an English major, as you can tell -- I've a graphic art/painter background) The more I read her books the more I think she is amazing. I'm reading an old book (1949) about JA by Elizabeth Jenkins that talks about Jane's real life and family along with comments about her books and characters (Darcy, Elizabeth, etc.) If I remember correctly, Jane often spoke of her characters like they were real people to some members of her family. No wonder we almost breath life nto Darcy and P&P2, Jane and CF made him so real. Yes, yes, I know P&P2 isn't Really real, but it's OK to dream -- I read it somewhere that it was OK, and Healthy to dream, honest. By the way, I didn't mean I didn't like CF's acting in Circle of Friends. But, like you, I thought the character was a jerk. I read someone in the P&P2 conference - somewhere - bring up the point that the girl involved with him might have had some motives of her own that were questionable. I'll have to watch Circle of Friends again - someday. When I like an actor's work generally, it's painful for me to see them playing a reprehensible character. I may admire their artistic abilities to play a c d, or have an effeminate side (like CF in Apartment Zero) but I don't usually like to watch them in that character over and over as I do Darcy. And on that note, I think try out the drool HTML.

Again I got chopped off -- missing a comma after yes, and it should read "play a cad". Thanks, I feel better now.

]I read someone in the P&P2 conference - somewhere - bring up the point that the girl involved with him might have had some motives of her own that were questionable. What a coincidence; that was me, too! I think she was just using Simon to get out of her own lower-class life, just like she used Benny's boyfriend when Simon wouldn't marry her after she got pregnant. She was not a nice person! ]Again I got chopped off It happens to me, too. I think it maybe has to do with a paragraph being too long, or making a change to text you've already typed or something.

]What a coincidence; that was me, too! How fun - that I would quote you to you! I'm starting to believe there are no such things as coincidences. I wonder what Elizabeth would have said about coincidences when Darcy came back early and she was poking around his property. (How embarassing - but he did take it quite well) Yes, Nan (was that Nan?) wasn't really very nice either when she tried to take Benny's boyfriend away. I guess she was desperate. I just figured out how to "copy" a line from a previous response and put it into this "response" to comment. I had wondered how you did it - now I'm curious how you were able to make Italics. Oh, and I did notice a couple of other missing letters in other peoples notes. (I'm still trying to catch up on what you all have been saying about P&P2. And I had great fun reading some of the Pemberly "stories" written by your group. I have been making up some alternate P&P2 plots and some JA era stories in my head too - like when I'm ironing.) By the way, how does one go about starting a New Topic? Not that I actually have one yet, just asking in case I come up with a bright idea.

I'm starting to believe there are no such things as coincidences. I agree! There are lots of wonderful co-winky-dinks (as a friend of mine says) in JA's books; they're fun! (was that Nan?) Yes, of "Nan, oh Nan, OHHH NANNN!!!" fame! now I'm curious how you were able to make Italics. Put an i surrounded by greater than and less than symbols (I can't actually do it, or it will just italicize my text here) before what you want to italicize, then at the end, do the same thing with a "/" (don't use the quote marks) in front of the i. Have you been to the HTML tutorial at the top of this page? Check it out; it's chock full of neat stuff and is how I primarily learned. I have been making up some alternate P&P2 plots and some JA era stories in my head too - like when I'm ironing.) A new author! There can never be too many! By the way, how does one go about starting a New Topic? At the top of the Austen Conference menu, there's a button called New Topic. Click on it and follow your heart! Lilli? (is that what you liked to be called?), you do know about the other site at http://www2.shore.net/~mrobens/ ?

]Lilli? (is that what you liked to be called?) Yes, now it is anyway - most people around me say Lil - but I'm going through a mid-life crisis and really like Lilli better. (I'mnamed after my Englishgrandmother and she liked to be called Lily.) Not to confuse you, I had to log-on as Lili today because I'm trying out AOL and couldn't get on the conference as Lilli. (Now you're probably sorry you asked!!) ]do you know about the other site at http://www2.shore.net/~mrobens/ ? Yes, thanks! Went there last night (midnight, again) - saw you there! That was You, wasn't it? And much enjoyed reading your ooops! I made my own ooops by doing something wrong with the italics - I printed some info on HTML from Amy's tutorial and will try to be spectacular with my expertise next time I write (or maybe not!) At least my addiction to P&P2 is at teaching me to (try to) become computer literate - is it not?

Hi, Lilli! Yes, that was me. I didn't put "big" closers in, but I did put "I" closers in, so I couldn't understand why it wasn't closing italics. Anyway, there's nowhere to practice there (like there used to be here), so if you screw up, everyone knows it! I agree that I'm learning about Jane Austen and my computer at the same time.

By the way, it's my tutorial, not Amy's!

Aubery may have been looking for this tutorial.

]By the was, it's MY tutorial, not Amy's. OOOOPPS!! Sorry, Ann! I must have typed that at midnight, when I was sleep deprived or something! A thousand pardons! I can see that alot of hours and work went into making that very helpful tutorial, and I for one, really appreciate your having provided that info. (I haven't had a chance yet to actually read through the whole thing, so I don't know how to make BOLD yet - hence the CAPITALS.) ]Susan, I did see the New Topic button. (It was right in front of me all the time!) And as soon as I can think of something new to say I'll use it. But, I haven't gone through all the archives yet to see what's old!

]I don't know how to make BOLD yet - hence the CAPITALS.) Ann, please excuse any unintentional rudeness on my part with the capitals. I read somewhere later that capitals mean shouting - which I didn't mean to do. And Susan, please excuse any unintentional rudeness on my part with all of my italics that I've been making - I was just so excited to be able to actually make them I fear I've overdone it and offended you all.

b is the tag for bold. Enclosed in angle brackets of course.

]I don't know how to make BOLD yet... Thanks, terry!

Lili, no offense taken! We're all learning together...

]Lili, no offense taken! We're all learning together... Thanks, Susan, for your encouragement! I've been tied up with domestic stuff and haven't been able to get on the computer (or watch P&P2 lately) - bummer!). Terry - I can't seem to get on the Pemberly Chat Room from AOL. I guess I need to call AOL up and find out why - has anyone else had problems getting onto the chat room?

No, but I haven't tried, I'll give it a try this weekend. Is the link working ok?

I'm a new boy on the Net. Ive been browsing for the last hour and feel rather like I felt when I signed up for an aerobics class and found myself one man amongst 30 women! How do I initiate a new topic? I think it would be really interesting a) to compare P&P1 with P&P2 and b) to assemble an ideal cast list from both productions (or have these things already been done?).

It's easy just click on the new topic button. If you have trouble, I can add you to the list of users that can create topics. Let me know if you have difficulty with this.

Terry, thanks. Am I am being extremely stupid? I don't seem to have a "new topic" button only "next topic" and "previous topic". Presumably "new topic" is not visible to me unless you add me to the list. I can see the problems with people creating new topics by the score. the conference can become a little "cluttered". Perhaps its best if I float a few ideas first in the appropriate new ideas topic and see if there is any interest.

Sounds like a good plan. Glad you're checking in Derek.

]Terry - I can't seem to get on the Pemberly Chat Room from AOL. I guess I need to call AOL up and find out why - has anyone else had problems getting onto the chat room? ]No, but I haven't tried, I'll give it a try this weekend. Is the link working ok? Terry - sorry it's taken me a week to answer - family has been hogging computer. I'm not sure what you mean by link - other sites are coming in ok (like Pemberley) - I got onto the chat room ok in Win-Net one night, but not on AOL. Got some kind of message like server can't find it. We're probably going to can AOL anyway - hubbie doesn't like it - it's too slow for him. Did you ever try it? If we do keep AOL I'll call them up and ask what's up. Thanks - LL

Thanks for helping to keep AOL in line.