Anybody still want to talk Maurice?

Let's weigh in and see who watched Maurice last weekend, who has seen it recently enough to talk about details and who has read it. Me? I watched as Laura instructed and had already posted some observations about similarities to Brideshead Revisited. Also read it a while back.

Pls get me caught up and tell me about Maurices. What is it? Thanks Mich

Mich, Maurice is a posthumously published novel by E.M. Forster (A Room with a View, Howard's End, etc.) Laura M badgered some of us into a virtual view of the movie just before the BB crashed. :-) (still haven't found it, Laura!)

I watched Maurice last weekend but have never read the book. It was an OK film, but I preferred Brideshead Revisited, or even Another Country - the latter because of it's indictment of the British public school system.

I found the movie on cable (The Movie Channel, I believe) while surfing last Sunday. I came in just before the Hugh Grant character (Clive?) went to Greece. [Actually I may have seen some of this movie before, but I didn't remember the ending quite the same.] As someone noted on the BB on Sunday or Monday, there are many familiar faces in this movie; I even noticed a P&P1 actress -- Judy Parfitt, who played Lady C in that adaptation (and did a superb job of looking down her nose at everyone). What do you want to discuss about this movie? Laura, tell us why you like this movie & book so much.

We should merge this topic with the one Laura began, but I don't have the key to do that yet. In defence of Laura, I like it a lot too. In a creepy sort of way: - I don't sympathize with the Maurice character. - I do like the Clive character but don't like him nearly so well after he sells out and gets normal and decides to go along with society. Once he gets the moustache he somehow seems less a real person, though happier and more contented with himself and his choices.

Here's what I wrote last Sunday just before the crash. If this works okay, I can copy more messages from last weekend to remind us where we were. Amy

I read that Forster hated the character of Clive Durham. I liked him at first but then he became so uppitty. I did feel sorry for Maurice because he had no male figure in his life to identify with so he was totally confused. He realised that he did not like women, and preferred men. But knew that it was illegal in England. The movie insinuates that their friend, oh what is his name. Risley gets caught. That does not happen in the book.

Laura, I haven't read the book, but in the movie Risley not only gets caught but is found guilty in court. To me it seemed that that's what turned Clive into going straight.

I found this movie totally by accident on "Bravo" last night.Only saw the last hour or so, only got the technical credits at the end. Loved Ben Kingsley, and the pretty boy who played Scudder, whoever he was.

Laura, would you care to fill Caroline in on Scudder?

Scudder played by Simon Callow maybe? Just considering the text on cover as I have borrowed Maurice video, but not had the time to review it and be able to take part. Remember liking the time and place bit and am curiously interested in anything from Cambridge or Oxford. Also touched by the sufferings for people thet did not fit into the social pattern. Always like to see Denholm Elliott the dear chap.

I like Elliott. I like Callow. I like the old universities, too Ann2. Laura refers to her heartthrob, Rupert Graves, indeed a little cutie, but too young for me to get excited much about anymore. Has anybody seen the new MSN site? Very slick. FYI, its Cinemania now moved to www.cinemania.msn.com. Rupert's bio is at http://www.cinemania.msn.com/Cinemania/Artists/Biographies/RupertGraves.htm. The site is still not nearly as useful as IMDB but when it does have the entry you want, it almost always has a picture.

Too young for me to languish over too. I just thought that he bears more than a a passing resemblance to another hearthrob who is perfectly capableof speaking with a Hampshire accent. Actually, I did't like the story much.I was only watching 'cos someone else was on the computer and I rembered this thread. It reminded me very much of "Bridesmaid Regurgitated".

] reminded me very much of "Bridesmaid Regurgitated". __ Yes. Only a little more hopeless.

My mistake! So, that is Rupert Graves!!Fairly nicelooking bloke, I must admit. There has been a lot of talking about him ,but I knew him not til now. The who is Simon Callow? That name has a ring to it. Must surf a bit.

Ann2 -- Simon Callow is the teacher (?) who has the sex talk w/ Maurice (when he is a boy) and who sees Maurice w/ Alec at the museum. Simon Callow also played Mr. Beebe (sp?) in Room With a View, and was one of the friends in Four Weddings and a Funeral.

Much obliged Kathleen. Mr Beebe or whatever is another favourite.His opinions on Lucy's pianoperformance and his happy pooldiving...now here is a connection maybe you dicussed it in the RWAV-days. I was new to all those abbreveations then so I understood it a bit late. Four Weddings I have only seen once and don't remember much.Am beginning to feel that unless you have been through a film several times and some on video so as to be able to stop and rewind, you are not quite familiar with it. Wonder where That idea springs from....?

Amy you are too good, you know I love that picture. Scudder is Alec the man who finally takes Maurice's heart. Oh boy, they could both have my heart. Simon Callow is an older man, very talented actor and director. Rupert Graves did an awesome take on this very controversial Forster novel. I don't understand why people do not like it. I love the fact that social inequities are everywhere. Maurice is a middle class man, fighting his homosexuality, but who is indeed in love with a married man. Scudde , who is lower class looks past the inequality of it all and loves the man with everything. Actually I get a little jealous at the intensity of the relationship, because a hetero relationship to me, doesn't seem that intense. When Scudder comes to Maurice, and says its alright I'm here. It is so beautiful. More beautiful than if it were between a man and a woman. RUPERT GRAVES IS MINE SO HANDS OFF!!!!

Moved from old austen topic 8 ___ Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (11:09) | Laura McCarthy (LauraM) I would still like to discuss Maurice if there are any takers let me know 3 responses total. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 8 of 170 [austen]: Maurice Response 1 of 3: Amy Bellinger (Amy) * Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (11:43) * 1 lines Me. Laura did you ever see my quick scribbles about Brideshead? Have you seen or read Brideshead Revisited? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 8 of 170 [austen]: Maurice Response 2 of 3: Laura McCarthy (LauraM) * Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (15:23) * 1 lines Amy, thank you. I would like to have HC watch and get his reaction. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 8 of 170 [austen]: Maurice Response 3 of 3: kathleen elder (kathleen) * Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (20:14) * 2 lines Laura -- why don't you restart the Maurice thread, either here or on topic #3 or on a new topic or whatever. I accidently managed to watch, but I'm not very good at starting the discussion.