VCR alert

Our own Myretta will appear as a contentant on Jeopardy this Wednesday, December 18. Check your local listings.

Hope they ask a couple of JA questions! Is it already taped? Is it too late to say "Kick some ass!!"?

100 topics! Do we break out the champagne bottle?

I would not wish to excite your anticipation. But thanks for your thoughts.

By the way, I saw an add for Emma on A&E: set your VCRs for February 16!

That does seem so far away Ann. Thanks for the info.

Well, Nostromo is on next month to tide us over.

I have to get through Cristmas first. The kids are "very excited" at this point.

True Ann, true. I think my husband bought the audio cassettes for me for Christmas.

Re: 100:3 Celebrate the 100th topic Terry, the tradition in this group is to break out a good bottle of port......or even better.... starboard. :-) Cheers, Grace

Sun., 12/15/96, on A&E at 10 AM (PST?) Firth in HOSTAGES TAPE IT!!

You go, Grace! ;)

Re Firth in Hostages - I saw it this aftn. He looked much younger and thinner to me. I do realize this is blasphemy - but - he also looked quite bland. Nothing like a good role and name being Darcy! His mouth didn't look the same. Noticed this comment by someone earlier - what's the difference in it?

] His mouth didn't look the same. Noticed this comment by someone earlier - what's the difference in it? ___ Good acting, I think. In Hostages he was lower middle class, which he interpreted as being dull and slackjawed. Prosperous and to-the-manor-born types hold their facial muscles in a firmer more confident way.

Re Firth in Hostages Amy, I'm sure you are right - as speech, posture, bearing and all body language would change. When you are referred to as one of most illustrious men in England you are not bland in any way.

I watched Hostages yesterday. I started watching it only to see Colin Firth, but I actually enjoyed the movie. Colin Firth certainly looked different from Darcy, but he still had that wonderful voice.

Did you notice Captain Wentworth (Ciaran Hinds, that is)? He was also good. I like the beard.

I thought Hostages was a good movie too. CF is different from Darcy, but then he's not called a chameleon for nothing. In Hostages he plays the "joker" in contrast to Ciaran Hinds "rebel". I thought they were both very good in their respective roles, as were the rest of the cast. What amazed me was the fact that so many of the cast members looked like the hostages they were representing, especially Terry Anderson and Terry Waite. BTW, I was in England when John McCarthy arrived home, and remember the scene on TV where the plane taxied to a stop. CF is taller but otherwise remarkably like McCarthy.

I find all this talk about how Firth did NOT look like Darcy. Well he was playing a HOSTAGE. Ciaran Hinds, I didn't even recognize him at first. I thought it was a wonderful movie. Very spiritual. I'm glad they all made it out alive, it was touch and go there for awhile.

Ciaron Hinds didn't look like Capt.Wentworth either. It was the perfect role bor both men. I agree Laura.

With one exception, Firth NEVER looks like Darcy.

''With one exception, Firth NEVER looks like Darcy.'' Indeed, Elaine, I see such varying accounts of him as to puzzle me exceedingly. Even within our one preferred production he doesn't always look like the same Darcy.

The Eyes! The Eyes gives Firth away to "look" like Mr.Darcy.

Myretta, congratulations on being the only contestant to answer the final question correctly. If that vile Melissa had not been such a wimpy wagerer, you'd be the champ. Now, about that cruise you won...

My husband got off the phone to watch Myretta and kids thought it was "cool".

Congratulations Myretta. I taped Jeopardy tonight and just finished watching it. Tell me, is it really hard to ring in first - I always think that must be the hardest part of playing the game. Have fun on the cruise - I hope you get to go when there are piles of snow in Mass. so you can be warm while all your neighbours are busy shovelling!:)

Jeopardy has just started here - and no Myretta! The only lady is a Melissa. What a bummer!

Thank you all for watching. I was really ambivalent about this (especially after I had done it). Joan if Melissa is the only woman, I'll probably be on tomorrow for you. I don't know how many games Melissa won, but I know she won the one right before mine. Here's my confession, Amy. I've been referring to Melissa (whose name I apparently blocked because it's the same as my beloved sister) as weasel woman ever since October. Am I a sore loser? Never! But she was very focused and did not socialize with the rest of the contestants who basically thought it was a kick just to be there. I know I did. I found ringing in first the hardest thing about this (that and drawing a blank on Peter Arnett. I could see his face, but couldn't bring up his name). There is a very small window of opportunity in which to ring in. Lights light up on either side of the board when you can ring. If you ring too soon, you get locked out for 1/2 second (which turns out to be an interminable period in this forum) and if you ring in to late. . .well. I actually knew a lot of stuff I didn't get to answer. What surprised e about seeing it after two months was that I'd answered questions I don't remember answering. I didn't know I knew that Simon Bolivar had been in Haiti. One of the really fun things about tonight was knowing that I could introduce myself to all of you. It has been one of my daily pleasures to meet with you here and I surprised myself with being able to form friendships on the internet. I love having this group of friends and it was nice to let you know a little bit more about me this way.

] knowing that I could introduce myself to all of you. __ I like that part, too.

]knowing that I could introduce myself to all of you. Myretta, it's nice to be able to put a face on at least one of our company. Thanks for introducing yourself.

Congratulations Myretta! It was so much fun watching you and hearing about your cats. One could tell Melissa was a weasel woman. Enjoy your cruise!

Well, I shall look forward to the pleasure a day late (and a dollar short?). This evening the weasel woman revealed to the world that she aced the SATs at age 10 - doesn't sound like the type who has ever been allowed to kick back and just enjoy being anywhere.

''Good acting, I think. In Hostages he was lower middle class, which he interpreted as being dull and slackjawed. Prosperous and to-the-manor-born types hold their facial muscles in a firmer more confident way.'' Amy, this comment makes me think especially of the part of Mr. B's Maggott when Lizzy asks if he is careful in not allowing his prejudices to interfere with his forming of his good opinion (badly paraphrased, I know), and he says, ''I am'', and closes his jaw so firmly. He looks as if he wants to bite her (or his own tongue for asking about walking into Meryton in the first place).

Myretta, I remembered to watch - I missed the cat chat - but I caught double J and final J. Great finish. Weasel woman had an itchy trigger finger. Hope the cruise is great.

Yes - the

I don't believe this. The one time I break my rule and type in this stupid box, it eats all of what turned out to be fairly lengthy text! WEll, you are all probably better off for it. Myretta, it was a pleasure to meet you. :-)

I think the system went down briefly while you were typing. It's back up now.

Myretta, I unfortunately did not get to watch, but I applaud anyone who can go on jeopardy. Some of those questions are real killers. I hardly ever get anything right. And Colin Firth is very much a chameleon when it comes to his acting. If anyone has seen A month in the Country you would understand what I mean.

Oh dear - this is no notice at all - A&E is broadcasting it even as I type (but will do it again at 11 PM PST) - they are doing "Kiri's Coventry Carols - in Coventry Cathedral - a building of great beauty and with wonderful accoustics, and Kiri Te Kanawa is the featured soloist, but also performing are the BBC orchestra, the cathedral men's and boys' choirs, and a bunch of other fine musicians.

Wuthering Heights 1992 version with Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche 8:00 est reaired at 12:30 on "TNT" at 10:00 on "TNT" Wild Sargasso Sea reaired at 3:00est

.....on the same day Thursday December 26, 1996 Wuthering Heights is at 8:00 Wild or Wide {it is listed as Wide}Sargasso Sea" is at 10:00.

Thanks for the WH alert, Donna. I have not seen the Fiennes version, so that will be a real treat for me tonight. TBS and TNT have been showing all their great library of Bible epics. Wouldn't Patrick Stewart be great in one of those roles?

Amy, WH and WSS are going to be on December 26. I wish they were tonight. Hmmmmm that is not such a bad idea Amy, Patrick Stewart yes are you sure your not a casting director. I do like him and think well of him.

If you like Patrick Stewart as a Bible hero, Donna, how about this? Kris Kristofferson in Clint Eastwood's role in Bridges of Madison County. I pictured him all the way through reading it.

Don't forget to have a couple of blank videocassettes and your VCR ready to tape Colin on NOSTROMO starting Jan. 5 on PBS in U.S. In California, S.F. area, it's on Ch. 9 KQED three consecutive nites on Mobil Masterpiece Theatre at 9 p.m. (another 6 hrs. of CF...yeah!)

Lucky you, will wait until January 14, 21 and 28 to see it on WCFE Northern New York-Mountain Lake

For those who missed it, A&E is now (as I type) showing their Bill Gates biography - and will again at 9 PM PST

"With one exception, Firth NEVER looks like Darcy." Very true, Elaine...this is something we must strive to remember whilst sniffing out anything with CF in it...;)

Through great persistence and little help from my local video store, I have managed to find several Firth films (try saying that in rapid succession). However, I am always apprehensive about watching anything from the "Firth Collection". They're so annoyingly eclectic that one never knows what will be bounding about on the screen. Can anyone generalize the type of movie in which Firth usually appears? Is there any drooling value in any of these films?

Through great persistence and little help from my local video store, I have managed to find several Firth films (try saying that in rapid succession). However, I am always apprehensive about watching anything from the "Firth Collection". They're so annoyingly eclectic that one never knows what will be bounding about on the screen. Can anyone generalize the type of movie in which Firth usually appears? Is there any drooling value in any of these films?

Through great persistence and little help from my local video store, I have managed to find several Firth films (try saying that in rapid succession). However, I am always apprehensive about watching anything from the "Firth Collection". They're so annoyingly eclectic that one never knows what will be bounding about on the screen. Can anyone generalize the type of movie in which Firth usually appears? Is there any drooling value in any of these films?

Through great persistence and little help from my local video store, I have managed to find several Firth films (try saying that in rapid succession). However, I am always apprehensive about watching anything from the "Firth Collection". They're so annoyingly eclectic that one never knows what will be bounding about on the screen. Can anyone generalize the type of movie in which Firth usually appears? Is there any drooling value in any of these films?

Through great persistence and little help from my local video store, I have managed to find several Firth films (try saying that in rapid succession). However, I am always apprehensive about watching anything from the "Firth Collection". They're so annoyingly eclectic that one never knows what will be bounding about on the screen. Can anyone generalize the type of movie in which Firth usually appears? Is there any drooling value in any of these films?

Through great persistence and little help from my local video store, I have managed to find several Firth films (try saying that in rapid succession). However, I am always apprehensive about watching anything from the "Firth Collection". They're so annoyingly eclectic that one never knows what will be bounding about on the screen. Can anyone generalize the type of movie in which Firth usually appears? Is there any drooling value in any of these films?

A record, Elaine.

My, my Elaine...you must really want to know if these movies have any drooling facotrs to them!

Valmont is good for drooling. Month in the Country is a good film. Others are of lesser value.

Elaine, six echoes deserve an answer!!;-) Actually, drooling factor depends on what makes you drool!! Is it acting, physical looks, facial looks, eyes, or actual nudity? Of the films I've seen, these are my drooling and acting factors, plus brief plot lines: Another Country drool 2, acting 7; the imaginary schooling of Burgess and Maclean (British spies who defected to USSR), takes place in a boys' public (private in U.S.) school; Firth plays a confirmed communist - very young and very cute! A Month in the Country drool 4(eyes), acting 10; about two traumatizedWWI veterans and their recovery during that month. Also stars Kenneth Branagh and Natasha Richardson. Apartment Zero drool 4(eyes only), acting 7; A strange film about Argentina, filmed entirely in Buenos Aires, about people disappearing. Firth 's role is severely psychologically hampered - one of his fortes. Valmont drool 8, acting 8; a fun version of Dangerous Liasons. See Firth when he was considered "beautiful"! Wings of Fame drool 7(sex), acting 5; Good idea somehow lost by a silly ending. Also stars Peter O'Toole being, essentially, Peter O'Toole. Not very good film IMHO. Femme Fatale drool 6(sex), acting 4; No credible plot and not very credible acting. Hostages drool 8,(nudity, eyes) acting 9; about the hostages in Lebanon in 80's to early 90's. Good docudrama. Costars Ciaran Hinds. The Advocate drool 9(sex, nudity, eyes), acting 8; about medieaval law and lawyers in France. Circle of Friends drool 6(sex, nudity), acting 6; don't rent this for Firth's role - it's small and unsympathetic - but the rest of story and cast is good. P&P2 drool 10, acting 10. Included this just to give you some guidelines to my ratings! There are only my opinions, but I hope they help!!

]one never knows what will be bounding about on the screen. LOL! Especially since all your posts had a way of bounding across my screen, too. ]Can anyone generalize the type of movie in which Firth usually appears? Other than him being in them and them being eclectic, I'd say he represents always an outsider or a man on the verge, so to speak, due to his being wealthy or wounded inside or freethinking or arrogant or loner, etc. I'd say a bit eccentric in some way. What's really eerie is I find these films seem to parallel him/his then-current life in a kind of subconscious pattern. ]Is there any drooling value in any of these films? Just a photo like the A&E magazine cover can get to some of us! His charisma is such an odd blend of the thinking man and the physically attractive; not often you have both traits so strongly intermingled in one man, but that (along with the teasing factor of the man and woman inaccessible to each other awhile or for entire film)is why A Month in the Country can make for drooling like P&P2 can.

Yes, France. It is about longing, isn't it?

I am so excessively embarrassed! I thought my machine was frozen as is frequently the case, received the customary error message, and was attempting to log off. I can't believe I posted 6 times. On the other hand, I know it hit my mouse more than 6 times so I'm thankful there are only 6! Can I erase any of this? Also, many thanks to Inko and her analytical abilities. My reactions to characters are much more black and white. If I find a character repulsive, it's difficult to notice his fine eyes. O course, the halo effect works going the other direction.....Where does one find all these films?

Elaine, I found all these movies at Blockbusters or Hollywood Video and rented them. That is, all except Hostages, which I taped off the History Channel - never found that to rent. I found I had to look around at various Blockbusters - some of them had one or two while another had different ones.

Elaine, The Advocate is on Cinemax tonight (1/15) at 11:00

Inko, I am still attempting to digest your list. To my surprise, I have seen 5 of the 8 films. Circle of Friendswas the 1st movie and the most shocking. I had seen this movie before I had ever heard of CF and couldn't imagine which part he played. I rented the video and on the way home it occurred to me, although I dearly hoped that I was wrong, that he might be Simon. I absolutely didn't want to see him in that role but all hope was in vain. From the sound system I recognized his voice coming from the body of an over-weight, red head. In disbelief I concurrently ran my P&P tape and paused both tapes to find some similarity of features. I was all astonishment and found that running P&P several times could barely remove the memory. Next, my video man suggested The Advocate from the soft porn section of the store. I had to sneak it into the house and furtively play it while the children were at school, unaware! Visions of the luckless Paul Rubins, police raids. ..The Advocate w s followed by Valmont, the 18th century lounge lizard. It was a conspiracy of bad films/characters and lackluster acting. Now, does CF has a fabulous sense of humor or what?

Inko, I am still attempting to digest your list. To my surprise, I have seen 5 of the 8 films. Circle of Friendswas the 1st movie and the most shocking. I had seen this movie before I had ever heard of CF and couldn't imagine which part he played. I rented the video and on the way home it occurred to me, although I dearly hoped that I was wrong, that he might be Simon. I absolutely didn't want to see him in that role but all hope was in vain. From the sound system I recognized his voice coming from the body of an over-weight, red head. In disbelief I concurrently ran my P&P tape and paused both tapes to find some similarity of features. I was all astonishment and found that running P&P several times could barely remove the memory. Next, my video man suggested The Advocate from the soft porn section of the store. I had to sneak it into the house and furtively play it while the children were at school, unaware! Visions of the luckless Paul Rubins, police raids. ..The Advocate w s followed by Valmont, the 18th century lounge lizard. It was a conspiracy of bad films/characters and lackluster acting. Now, does CF has a fabulous sense of humor or what?

I can't believe it...I can't post under this topic, too excited I guess. I simply wanted to know (once would be sufficient) who else got a speeding ticket on their way home the first time they rented The Advocate? And did your children arrive unaccountably early to school on the morning you decided to view it? Such grand expectations.

Has anyone a copy, or an idea of where to rent a copy, of ''Dutch Girls''? I would so like to see Colin snogging as a youth ;-) The cinematic discussion on the FoF page has whetted my appetite. It appears that there is a disco ''Darcy-cam'' scene in the movie, also. Happy thought, indeed.

Mari -- I just received a copy of Dutch Girls (ordered from Videoflicks on the internet, but I forgot their address). I plan to watch it this weekend, so I can let you know my opinion then.

Kathleen, please do; I will look into this topic for your response. Happy Birthday, although at one and forty I do not know how you came to call yourself ''elder'' ;)

Mari -- thanks for the greetings. As for "calling" myself elder, I must blame my ancestors. Elder is quite simply my surname, so I have been "elder"ly all my life! I'll talk to you again after I watch Mr Firth in Dutch Girls.

I watched "Dutch Girls" this weekend. Not much of a movie (sort of a coming of age film -- about a group of English boys from school on a sports tour in Holland). Using Inko's rules (my interpretation, of course) from response #58, I'd give this film a 3 for drooling (eyes only) and a 6 for acting. Sue Bertwistle worked w/ Colin Firth on this movie, and I believe that's part of the reason she wanted him as Darcy. Certainly there are some fine scenes where we see in his eyes how he's trying to work through his feelings. Mari -- I'm afraid that the "Darcy-cam" bit is very small. And no scenes w/ Colin snogging. Our dear Wickham (Adrian Lukis) had a small part, and he did look very cute. Respectfully submitted kathleen (part-time movie reporter and full-time P&P2 fan)

On the VCR alert: Absolutely Fabulous, the Last Shout premieres tonight on the comedy channel. (Repeats will probably be frequent.) Julia Sawalha is one of the stars.

Kathleen, AbFab has been repeating earlier shows all day and I've had them on most of the time (though not watching too closely). Julia Sawalha certainly looks very different to Lydia but her voice is the same. I liked what I saw of the shows.

You hated Valmont?? I just watched it and loved it. I hated Dangerous Liasons - heavy, mean, decadent. I loved this one - lighter - even sweeter - sort of. I liked the emphasis on the rising stars in the ashes of Valmont and the annette Benning character and the old great aunt so delighted to learn that a new little Valmont baby was on the way. I thought - more tolerable characters than the other film, less sex and more seduction, less destruction. I liked this movie a lot!! And CF spent ample time wet.

Katy, I agree I much preferred Valmont to Dangerous Liaisons. I found the latter cruel. The young girl's seduction was practically rape in that one. I too thought Valmont much sweeter and a lot more fun. Only the ending duel didn't make as much sense. I really loved the old aunt - what a great character actress she was! I believe she died shortly after the film was made.

Dangerous Liaisons also had the John Malkovich creepiness factor. Yeecch. I liked DL, but I agree that Valmont was sweeter, and it was more understandable that CF's scamp would easily charm the ladies.

The biggest problem for me with Dangerous Liasons is the fact that the Malcovich character is such a slimeball that I can not belive any woman would fall for him, and certainly not Michele Pfeiffer! It just was not believable to me that he would have had enough success with women to be such a renowned rake.

"The English Patient" just won the Golden Globe for best drama picture!!

I was just flipping channels and heard a familiar voice. Though I haven't seen the credits, it sounds to me like Colin Firth does the narration for the show "Bintley's Mozart" on Bravo. It is showing right now (6:00pm CST) and will rerun at 12:00 midnight Central time tonight. From what I have heard so far there is not much narration to the piece. It is all about a ballet choreographer working a piece of music.

I didn't feel that Valmont was a very engaging movie. The Count in Valmont was too weak, too cutsie, often stereotypic; but Benning and the Aunt were quite refreshing. In contrast, Apartment Zero and The Hostages were almost riveting. In these two films I was not aware of CF's participation but carried away by either storyline or subject matter.

Turn on A&E now,"Making of Emma" is on right as I write.

Must have been the 5-minute promo, Donna?

A&E PRIDE and PREJUDICE Part One - Feb 8 9pm/1am pst Part Two - Feb 9 8pm/12am pst A&E "Rebel Without a Cause" Feb. 7 4:00am pst A&E EMMA Feb 16 Sun. 8pm/12am pst

I'll finally be able to retape episode 6, tape went wrong (lines and snow and incomprehensible sounds) at the second proposal : and I'm not kidding! Who's talking February blues

Johanne; me too, only it is the Netherfield ballroom scene; oh joy, oh bliss! :-9

Do you thing, by chance, they will rerun "Making of.."? I never saw it at all.

If they do rerun"Making of" it will be on before/after,ya never no????

Do you thing, by chance, they will rerun "Making of. Thay can not re-run it - they have

GRRRRRRRR!!!!! They can notre-run it. They have never run it in the first place. If they do runi it, it will be a North American premier!

Bummer.

Never try to deny that there are precious moments for a Darcy friend in Valmont. Eyes are right, and he is wet as was pointed out and the dance scene is sheer joy and...you can't help feeling sorry for him when he begins to understand that he has ruined his life and other's. Some very sad and solemn expressions on his face. But, I came here to tell you that The Swedish TV is showing Dennis Potter's last but one(?) story, 'Karaoke'. Leading role the author(Potter) played by our friend from Nostromo (and oh so many other...)Albert Finney.He is so good. And in one other rather big role a film producer is played by another dear friend, Anna Chancellor. I feel almost a tenderness towards her, black hair and lovely eyes. She tries to manage this very difficult author chap.(She gets to say shit and other modern things, it is an odd sensation.)I've seen one part so far. Think it is four. Has it been on in US or -more likely perhaps- UK?

"The Malcovich character is such a slimeball that I can't believe anyone would fall for him." #77 Ann, Ann, Ann -- did we watch the same movie? Believe me, I really liked Valmont, and I am a diehard CF fan, but DL was pure genius. Many of you have mentioned that you only like CF as Darcy, with which I don't agree, but it's a way to make my point. I don't find Malcovich attractive and have not found him so in any other movie, but his sexual magnetism in DL was simply impossible for me to ignore. He had the charisma, that "something" which I've seen in other unattractive men throughout my ilfe who never want for female companionship. Am I alone in this, ladies?

He had the charisma, that "something" which I've seen in other unattractive men throughout my ilfe who never want for female companionship. __ Afraid not. But Malk has something I like that I don't like liking.

He had the charisma, that "something" which I've seen in other unattractive men throughout my ilfe who never want for female companionship. Am I alone in this, ladies? __ I didn't do that right. I meant to reply "Afraid not" to Susan's "Am I alone in this?"

Afraid not. But Malk has something I like that I don't like liking.// Agreed. It is some kind of possible evil thing; and yet fascinating.Usch!

Amy: But Malk has something I like that I don't like liking. yes...he is compelling and repelling simultaneously. Very dangerous.

Changing the subject back to the original topic if that's OK. Just want to know if anybody has info on when Master of the Moor is supposed to be on in the US?

Susan: Changing the subject back to the original topic if that's OK. Nobody likes a smart-aleck, Susan! ;-)

I asked if it was OK!

Susan, Master of the Moor was shown in the Bay Area as a special for a PBS affiliate fundraiser. I don't know if other stations will follow suit or not. I guess it might depend on whether our sweetheart brought in the bucks. Have you heard, Joan?

I have heard nothing since KTEH showed it and (owing to my VCR having mysteriously become set to SP) my tape ran out, missing the last hour! I still want to know how it ended!

Bummer!

Today, BRAVO! is presenting a double bill of Wuthering Heights : - the Timothy Dalton version at 9 p.m. - the Laurence Olivier version in repeat from the afternoon at 00:30 am (Feb 7) this from Quebec, don't know the extent of their broadcasting (regional, national or international)

ARRRGH. I miss having Bravo.

ARRRGH. I miss having Bravo. Would you like me to tape something for you, Amy?

Myretta, you are sweet to offer. I can always rent the films, but I do miss the Actors' Studio interviews at the New School. Is that series still on?

Are you working late, Myretta? Odd time for you to be on.

We get Bravo, but the listing in my TV guide is quite different today and tomorrow. Maybe it's a different Bravo in Canada??

Yes the actor's studio interviews are still on Bravo and I'm still at the office. Care to meet for a chat?