incredibly dumb and stupid questions (for newbies)

I've got one. How do I get to see the "mini series". Is it available at video stores? Is it going through re-runs in the States? Where did it originate. Remember, don't poke fun at me for this *incredibly dumb and stupid question". OK?

Terry, I've seen it at Block buster for rent. A&E is reshowing it but it's half over so you missed it by a about month. I have two copies and I would be happy to lend you one. let me know if your interested. Mich

Terry, The fact of the matter is that probably EVERYONE on this board has at least two copies and would be glad to loan you one. This goes for me, too. Myretta

OK. I'll make arrangements to borrow one. Email me about this. I don't have cable (though I have satellite) so I don't get A&E. How many programs is the series?

Terry - I called my local Blockbuster, and they gave me an 800 number to call. They were able to look up which Blockbusters in my ZIP code carried the video. It has been distributed in a couple of different ways - I was able to find the three hour, 2 volume set. Just make sure they know its the A&E version that you want.

I was able to find the three hour, 2 volume set. Just make sure they know its the A&E version that you want. Terry, in all fairness you should be warned; it's in fact a five hour set in 2 volumes, or almost 6 hours if you get the 6 volume set. Make sure you have a comfortable chair!

Oops! Reason #477 why you should always double-check what you've written before hitting the submit button!

] in fact a five hour set in 2 volumes, or almost 6 hours if you get the 6 volume set ________________ And Terry, you may or may not ever get this, but we all wish it were longer. If you can stand it, watching will help you understand our private language. I look forward to seeing your first, "Miss ___ is all politeness" or "And why should he not?" or "It is of little matter." Amy

Wow, 6 hours, at extended play you could get the whole thing on one videotape. I'm a ways from mastering this jargon, but don't lose hope. Are you going to publish a bibliography of Jane Austen somewhere on this website? OK folks, it's time to ask that question that heretofore you been *too embarassed* to pose. Come on, ask it. You're safe here since this topic doesn't allow ridicule of unbelieveably naive or inance questions.

OK - how do I change my log-in 'pseudonym' (nothing actually pseud about it) to read 'Anna' instead of 'Anna Price' ? I went into the change preferences section and I thought I had changed it, but when I came back out it had reverted to the first version. How do I make the change stick? yours informally, Anna

I question that I can't answer. Will you please pose this to Dave Thaler (the fellow who wrote this software) in the yapp conference?

OK folks, it's time to ask that question that heretofore you been *too embarassed* to pose. _____________ Oh man, if there is something we have not delved into because it is more embarrassing that the topics we have discussed... well I shudder to think. Can it be so? Have we any of us withheld anything? Amy

I don't know. Who's holding back?

] I'm a ways from mastering this jargon, but don't lose hope. _______________ I just thought of the absolute perfect P&P line for a sysop. See new thread. Oozing drama from every pour, Amy

] I'm a ways from mastering this jargon, but don't lose hope. _______________ I just thought of the absolute perfect P&P line for a sysop. See new thread. Oozing drama from every pore, Amy

] Anna: ] OK - how do I change my log-in 'pseudonym' (nothing actually pseud about it) to read 'Anna' instead of 'Anna Price' ? I went into the change preferences section and I thought I had changed it, but when I came back out it had reverted to the first version. How do I make the change stick? ] Terry: ] I question that I can't answer. Will you please pose this to Dave Thaler (the fellow who wrote this software) in the yapp conference? Well I can answer that one - i figured it out. I'll trade you 3 for one - does that sound fair? ;-) In order to get it to take, you have to resign from the conference and join all over again - which, of course, sets all your pointers back to the beginning again. So I ended up having to display everything all over again. So: 1. Is there any way to do what you can do in Caucus and just mark everything as seen? That way, people could read everything new, do the resign trick, mark everything seen, and not miss anything - OR have to displkay it all again. 2. You mentioned elsewhere that there is a way to get rid of those annoying unwanted paragraph breaks that get put into one's text if a paragraph gets longer than 5 or 6 lines long. How do you do it? 3. You also mentioned elsewhere that there is a way to attach a response to a specific posting. How is that done?

Interesting question, we used to use caucus as our software. If you have a shell account, you can type fixseen to make all items seem as if you've read them. Email me for a shell account, we give them away to folks who are frequent posters and contributors to this community. The paragraph thing is a systemwide setting that I have to look into. I'm not sure how you attach responses, you may want to pose this to Dave in the yapp conference.

Not only does the paragraph break, it also zaps one letter in the last word of the line that breaks! I find that very strange.

I have a really inane, beginner's question. The other day I tried to save part of the postings. Managed to do that, saved into my Wordperfect 6.1 for Windows 95, but then when I opened WPwin, it wouldn't read the document because it said it was in an "unknown format", and couldn't translate it. How can I save stuff I want and still be able to read it later?

Mine save as html files - you need to use your browser to read them. If it's netscape you go file open and select the file you want.

My browser (Netscape) gives you a pop-up menu in the SAVE window that lets you choose to save either as plain text or html. If you are able to save the file as plain text, WordPerfect should have no problem with it.

Ok - here are 2 more: How come if your are reading "new" postings" and there is an imge that doesn't load, and you ask your browser to try to load it again, (just the image, not the page), if it fails to load, you are taken to the text entry window, skipping over the rest of the new messages and marking them all as seen, so they don't appear as "new" any more, and you can't go back and view them again without changing to "all" mode and re-displaying the entire topic again? (How's that for a run-on sentence?) Is there any way to go (back or forward) straight to a specific topic while reading new postings? For example, if I wanted right now to jump back to topic 8, how could I do that?

Re: Changing you name You don't have to go through any rigamarole if you are willing to always edit the "Use Pseudonym:" box when you post. Re: Bibliography Terry, I've got general Jane Austen bibliographies out the wazoo at the Jane Austen web site; start with http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janebblg.html

Joan, that's part of the whole "excessive no-caching" problem -- see my rant over in the "HELP!!!" topic.

Ooooh - I did see, and echoed, your rant - I didn't realize that this was a related problem! It definitley needs fixing!

You don't have to go through any rigamarole if you are willing to always edit the "Use Pseudonym:" box when you post. that's what I've been doing, but it gets tedious

But Anna it can be fun too!!!

OK, can someone explain to me what a "cookie" is? My browser says that this site wants to make one each time I log on. What happens if I do or don't permit it?

A cookie is a way Dave's software tracks what you've read and you could probably get a more definitive answer by asking Dave in yapp. Dave is *very* responsive to making changes that folks ask for so, be forewarned, you'll probably get whatever you ask for in the new version. So, don't be shy, you can help make yapp a much better software program! Jan Wolter has also, I understand, written a whole slew of great utility add ons for yapp that we can look at installing. ONe is specifically to improve text formatting. Check out: http://www.izzy.net/~janc for more details about his add on utilities. Jan is a big fan of the bizarre virtual community world. How kooky to we have to get to attract Jan as a participant? Happy Thanksgiving everyone! There's a lot to be thankful for. I love this newly arrived community!

Thanks Joan, next time I save I'll try that pop-up window. Never noticed it before. Just goes to show what a complete novice I am about all this!!

Dirty word! I just followed the link to Jan's page, and then could not return to my "place" in this conference - it only returns to the text entry window, with no indication as to how many postings were stlll left to read, or how far back I needed to go in the "redisplay" field to get them back. (HC, I suppose this is also part of that same problem that you described so completely with all those !!!!!)

Incredibly stupid question about the Regency period. Starting new thread, sorry, "topic." I will conquer this lingo. At least someone has changed it from "item." Talk about a nondescriptive label. Amy

Yes Joan, once you have topic messages displayed, DON'T GO NOWHERE and DON'T DO NOTHING WITH THE BROWSER WINDOW unless you have read the messages on the page. If you need to go somewhere, open a NEW browser window...

Ah! An excellent suggestion! Why did that not occur to me? (Although IMHO that should not be necessary; not everyone will necessarily have that capability!)

In Internet Explorer you can right click on a link and save it as a bookmark for later.

] Terry: In Internet Explorer you can right click on a link and save it as a bookmark for later. Not if you are a Mac user with no right mouse button. :-) (But you can copy the location and put it into a bookmark manually) Much more "friendly" though to be able to follow a link and return to where you were - this is the first web site I have ever visited where that was not possible!

You know what I wish MSIE had though? URL for image

Terry, "coming back" to a topic messages page NEVER works in Netscape, because all those "no-cache" directives mean that Netscape will _RELOAD_ the page again from Spring when you try to "go back" to it, and the software thinks that once you've accessed some messages, then you've already read those messages...

I am very glad that we have someone who thinks of these things and is excessively attentive to them. ;-)

] Terry: A cookie is a way Dave's software tracks what you've read and you could probably get a more definitive answer by asking Dave in yapp. I don't really care what he is using it for - I just want to know what one is - and why it is called a cookie. Seems that "they" might have given it a more meaningful name. The message pops up saying that someone wants to make one and do you want to permit it - well I never know what to answer because I don't know what one is.

I've also been wondering why the "new" option doesn't "stick" - each time one logs on one is back again in "all" mode.

The browser drops off little messages about you in your cookie jar or something like that so the next time you visit the website the website knows what's in your cookie jar (or something). Now talk about an uninformed answer that goes begging for a better one. There you have it.

Per Amy's request, I just set up half a dozen folks here as shell users who will be helping with the interface. This is the dream team. You know who you are, I take it.

Joan ] I've also been wondering why the "new" option doesn't "stick" - each time one logs on one is back again in "all" mode. Joan, I was logging on via the bookmark I picked up from Amy's page; http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/austen/all and was also getting "all" each time I logged on. I changed the url to; http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/austen/all/new and that logs me on in "new" mode.

Thank you so much Anna - why did I not think of looking at that myself? And Terry, I enjoyed your "uninformed" answer, but do hope that someone has a more detailed one to offer!

I may just have to launch a search for cookies.

Well, I could do that, too - I'm just hoping that someone here already knows and will save me (us?) the trouble. :-)

One definition I found: A handle, transaction ID, or other token of agreement between cooperating programs. ``I give him a packet, he gives me back a cookie." The claim check you get from a dry-cleaning shop is a perfect mundane example of a cookie; the only thing it's useful for is to relate a later transaction to this one (so you get the same clothes back). Here's something pretty technical, the cookie specification: http://www.nord.de/pete/www/extensions/cookie_spec.html http://www.ids.net/~oops/tech/make-cookie.html http://www.politicsnow.com/views/netwatch/ Mostly, what you get when you search for "cookies" is chocolate chip recipes and "better than sex cookies" etc. But the above links should answer some questions. Particularly good, is the politicsnow page which deals with privacy issues.

And the absolutely, insanely great cookie url: http://emf.net/~mal/cookiesinfo.html

Hey, Joan, does it bother you a lot that this thing is termed a cookie. Too bad if it does, dear, because I fear you will not be able to doe anything about it now. ;) Amy

ME WANT COOKIE!!! ME WANT COOKIE!!!

C is for cookie It's good enough for me! C is for cookie It's good enough for me! C is for cookie It's good enough for me! Cookie, cookie, cookie starts with C.

How much I shall have to learn and put in my own cookie-box when I get it soon. And Joan too, at least those cookies are not nasty little freckled things!! Ann2

Okay, I've got the general gist, but somebody please give me the real explanation for "daggy," OK?

Does any here know the folks at A&E who produce A&E or at least who they are?

I am a little acquainted with the new media deprtment, Terry.

And they are a client of Amy2's firm. Better not approach them about sponsorhip until we talk.

Sounds good. Let's talk deeper.

Susan; here it is. There came into being a topic of discussion, which began with a discussion about clothes, where someone noted that Mr. Firth appeared to vary on whether he �dressed� left or right.. if you know what I mean. The person had discussed the topic with her husband, who thought that most men always dressed to one side, rather than alternating. There was some discussion of compiling a list of which side Mr. Darcy was dressed to in certain scenes; similar to a list of which dresses Lizzy wore in each scene, but this was never compiled (or, at any rate, never published ;-)�. ) It was one of our Australian cousins who introduced the term daggy to us, and it was unanimously moved that the topic be thus named. This, madam, is a faithful narrative of all my dealings with the daggy topic. For the truth of this account, you may inquire of Cheryl Sneed, who is familiar with the entire history of all daggy and snogging activities.

Finally, a really straight answer. Thanks, Mari!! I'm afraid all Cheryl would be able to manage is "Ooh baby ooh baby!" although I AW.

Well i read through the entire topic..........and somehow cookies and such did not strike me as a P&P Austen topic.........I came in here to try to find out something about austen lingo and such..........thanks for daggy.......now what is snogging

Poor TJ!! Snogging is Brit slang for "necking"! ;-)

]now what is snogging.....a term used instead of necking.

TJ, you had to ask.

Why is everything old somehow new again? I spent hours going through all the old threads to get caught up and just use the "all new" function, and all of a sudden all the messages in all the threads come up under "all new." What did I do wrong and, how, please, please, please, do I undo it?

] What did I do wrong and, how, please, please, please, do I undo it? __ It is an odious bug, Susan -- with no cure, but some theories about prevention. See the "Old is New Explained" [pic*] thread. * pic. Premise incorrect.

Susan - I can't guarantee this, but I've never been hit by the "Old is New" bug, and I use the following URL: http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/austen/since/-1/new You might want to give this a try.

Susan -- I agree w/ suggestion from Kaffeine (aka Kathleen Grant). You can also use "-0", or "-2", or other numbers, depending on how long it's been since you last viewed the messages. (The all new in the last week option from the main page gives you a "-7".) Good luck -- this is a terrible disease! :-) kathleen

Even if you don't want to use it all the time, http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/austen/since/-1/new is a faster way to catch up and not have to re-display all of the old messages again.

You guys are GREAT! Thanks so much for the tips -- I think I'm OK again.

God, how embarrassing -- it's me yet again. How do you copy part of someone's message so you can respond to it? I've just been retyping it, but I assume everyone else is copying because sometimes the same typos are there. I'm sure it's really simple, but I've tried a few things and can't make it work. You've all been so great -- mind helping me out once again?

Susan, just highlight the part you wish to copy, either by dragging your mouse with the button down, or by (are we talking PC?) holding down the shift key and using the cursor arrows. Then go to Edit, choose Copy and the selected words will be in your clipboard. Paste them in the response window by going back to the Edit menu and choosing Paste. After you get used to doing it with the mouse you can check out keyboard shortcuts like CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste -- or my personal fave, CTRL-Insert, SHFT-Insert. Then you can start on the fancy stuff like the showy crossover legato mouse clicks.

Then you can start on the fancy stuff like the showy crossover legato mouse clicks. Well, look at that. Thanks, Amy, I was doing essentially what you said, just not in the right sequence and not with my cursor in the right place. I printed out your message for future reference.

Good for you Susan! And you already know how to do italics! There will be no stopping you now! ;-)