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Recent messages about Darcy's Story: __ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 164 of 198: Karen Bowdre (Karen) * Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (00:09) * 1 lines If any of you discuss 'Darcy's Story' at Pemberley, let me know when. One suggestion - not this weekend, since I won't have access to chat. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 165 of 198: Sharon (sld) * Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (17:09) * 4 lines [ not this weekend, since I won't have access to chat ] When will you have access? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 166 of 198: Anne (Anne3) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (11:14) * 8 lines The nice folks at Copperfield Books read my sad tale of getting a defective copy of Darcy's Story, and sent me a replacement, with their compliments! Now that is what I call handsome, gentleman/womanlike behavior! They sent it out airmail on Monday, Feb. 3rd, and I received it later that week, even though their order form says to allow 28 days for delivery. Their address is: Copperfield Books Room 38 Hillbrook House Lyncombe Vale Road Bath BA2 4LS England Copies are 9 pounds including postage. An international money order can be obtained (in the U.S. at least) at post offices, and is equivilent to about $14, same price as at JA Books. Five copies are 36 pounds, a 20% saving. Now how do I get any work done today with this sitting on my desk? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 167 of 198: Amy Wolf (amy2) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (11:33) * 1 lines It IS extremely addictive! I couldn't help re-reading within a few days either. Just really liked Aylmer's approach and choices. Any word as to when we can do the "advance crit"? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 168 of 198: Amy (Amy) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (11:37) * 2 lines Who has it on order now and wants us to wait. Tell when you expect it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 169 of 198: Johanne (JohanneD) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (14:48) * 1 lines I do, expecting it end of Feb, early March from JABooks, maybe sooner ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 170 of 198: Carolyn Esau (Carolyn) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (16:20) * 2 lines I ordered by fax on friday to the internet book store. I got confirmation of the order this morning by email. So I am now playing the waiting game. I also ordered my own copy of "Making of...." after renewing the library's copy for 3 months. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 171 of 198: Ann (Ann) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (17:51) * 1 lines Does anyone know how many copies JABooks still has in stock. (I know they have been ambivelent about telling people). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 172 of 198: Lisa (lisaC) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (18:35) * 1 lines It is very addicitve. I have just begun reading it for a third time to get ready for the discussion but it appears that I'll have enough time to read it a forth time before we start analyzing it to death. I can't wait I hope your copies arrive soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 173 of 198: Lisa (lisaC) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (18:37) * 1 lines Maybe I should start watch Sesame Street to learn how to spell FOURTH, but I fear my addiction has overtaken my senses and barely anything can tear me away from anything that's not P&P related. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 174 of 198: maud dixon (maud) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (18:39) * 6 lines I thought I'd get my copy this week from the bookstore in Boston (Waterstone?). I called today and they told me it's on back order b/c so many people have asked for it. I was angry b/c they'd told me 3 weeks ago they'd call if it needed to be back ordered. Trid JA Books and couldn't even get them on the phone. I'll try Copperfield tommorrow. Feeling somewhat desparate and definitely deprived atTthis point. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 175 of 198: Amy (Amy) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (19:15) * 2 lines Oooh, looks like we need a director. Cheryl, Amy2 or anybody else, you want to coordinate, set the start date and organize borrowing arrangements? I'll make my copy will be available for loan by mail by the weekend. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 176 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (21:06) * 3 lines Did someone call for a director? :-) Ok. Let's set March 1 as discussion starting day. If you feel comfortable lending your book, let me know and I'll keep a list, likewise I'll start a list for borrowees and try to match people up. Sound ok? Let's get cracking! ;-) PS--please send all inquiries re lending and borrowing by private e-mail so as to not clutter this space too much. Thanks. clsneed@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 177 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (21:06) * 1 lines Boy! Am I an obsessive organizer or what?! :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 178 of 198: Myretta (mrobens) * Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (21:38) * 5 lines Boy! Am I an obsessive organizer or what?! :-( Part of your charm, my dear. . .;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 179 of 198: Rebecca Davey (Becks) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (00:25) * 1 lines I just got mine only after a week of sending out my money order to Copperfield......already on pg.67! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 180 of 198: Amy Wolf (amy2) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (11:02) * 1 lines Cheryl, you must be one heck of a piano teacher! March 1st it is. Will this occur at Pemberley, and if so, what time? (See, I can be a tad obsessive myself!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 181 of 198: Amy (Amy) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (11:18) * 2 lines Bless you, my dear Cheryl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 182 of 198: Dina (Dina) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (11:43) * 1 lines I got mine through the Internet Bookstore and I recieved it 2 weeks and 2 days (obsessive? no!) from when I ordered it. Read it this past weekend. Where is the discussion on 3/1, I'm there!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 183 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (12:05) * 7 lines The March 1st discussion shoul be held here at Spring, some of our people cannot get into Pemberley, we would never find a time convienent for everyone and the room may not hold us all! This topic is getting pretty long, we may want to archive this and start a new one when discussion begins...Amy? I've already matched up two borrowers and lenders and have two more lenders in the wings ready to be generous, just let me know... Let me say once more how much I love all of you here. You are all such wonderful people! *samooch* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 184 of 198: kathleen (elder) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (14:34) * 2 lines And kisses and hugs back at you, Cheryl! You have performed splendidly -- I do not believe that Lady C herself could have done better, not even if she had practiced more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 185 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (16:25) * 6 lines kathleen: You have performed splendidly -- I do not believe that Lady C herself could have done better, not even if she had practiced more. High praise indeed! ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 186 of 198: Rebecca Davey (Becks) * Tue, Feb 11, 1997 (23:10) * 1 lines Finished it......Loved it, Loved it, Loved it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 187 of 198: Amy Wolf (amy2) * Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (11:26) * 1 lines Cheryl, at least your performance would not have to be on a muted piano! So we will just post to this (or a new Topic) on the Spring on 3/1 to discuss? Do divulge your master plan, Cheryl! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 188 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (12:54) * 4 lines Amy2: Do divulge your master plan, Cheryl! But Amy dear, it is only Feb 12, and patience is a virtue after all... Besides, a little mystery is good! ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 189 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (12:55) * 5 lines Amy2: Do divulge your master plan, Cheryl! But Amy dear, it is only Feb 12, and patience is a virtue after all... Besides, a little mystery is good! ;-) I have several would be lenders waiting in the wings, for any borrowers, let me know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 190 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (12:57) * 1 lines Sheesh! Some day I'll get this thing figured out! :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 191 of 198: Amy Wolf (amy2) * Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (23:12) * 1 lines Yes, mystery keeps them coming back for more. I will await the unveiling of your Plan with bated breath! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 192 of 198: Lola (breezin) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (12:38) * 1 lines So what do you get in Janet's book exactly, plotwise? Darcy's childhood? Any early girlfriends? Wedding night? Any plot extension beyond Austen? Want to know before considering buying seriously- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 193 of 198: Sharon (sld) * Thu, Feb 13, 1997 (18:35) * 6 lines Lola, I understand your concern. The book is the same plot, basicly as the original Pride and Prejudice, only from Darcy's point of view. So you don't have a lot of stuff that is going on at Longbourn, since he is not there. There is a lot of the conversation that is taken right out of Pride and Prejudice. The story begins the summer before Darcy and the Bingleys go the Netherfield, when the near elopement of Gerogiana and Wickham almost happens. The author does give a little more background (her view) od Darcy's family. But actually, this author does not go much deeper into what is going on from Darcy's view than Jane Austen did from Elizabeth's point of view. In other words, there is still plenty of room for our speculation. There may be some points, though, in which any one of us may not agree with he way Janet Aylmer has taken some things, but it doesn't spoil the other aspects of the book, and that just leaves us more to debate about. Then she writes just a little more detail at the end of the story which Jane Austen just touched over. According to Cheryl, there are still some people willing to lend out a copy for you to read before the discussion. So just Email her with a request to borrow one, if you don't want to buy one yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 194 of 198: June (June) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (13:08) * 5 lines I am all in uproar! You've all got me scrambling to find "Darcy's Story"! If I can't find a copy, I'll be e-mailing you, Cheryl. (Any lenders left?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 195 of 198: Kate (kate) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (19:03) * 5 lines Hi, I'm new to this. Can someone tell me where to get a copy of the book in NYC? If not, where can I order it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 196 of 198: Linda (Linda409) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (20:27) * 6 lines Kate, I e-mailed a request to Jane Austen books last Saturday, 2/8/97. The book was delivered on Wednesday, 2/12, with a bill for $14. The e-mail address is JABooks@aol.com. BTW, I did not receive a confirmation of the order. Good luck. Linda ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 197 of 198: Kate (kate) * Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (20:38) * 1 lines Thanks Linda, I'll give it a try ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 114 of 187 [austen]: Darcy's Story Response 198 of 198: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Sat, Feb 15, 1997 (02:06) * 4 lines June: (Any lenders left?) a couple..let me know...;-)

Thanks, Cheryl. I believe I'll give Jane Austin Books a call first, though. Will let you know...

I emailed JA books last Saturday (15th) but no sign of my book yet. Panic!!!

Kate, I finally got an E-mail message from JABooks late last night - they're all out, but expect to ship this week. Methinks I'll be way behind!

Amy2: Do divulge your master plan, Cheryl! OK. I think the time is now right to now reveal the MASTER PLAN Step 1. Read Darcy's Story. Step 2. Post your thoughts, reactions, insights, quips, rants and bon mots here at this topic beginning this Saturday, March 1. End of Master Plan. It's brillancy lies in it's simplicity, I believe...

Cheryl dear, the mere sound of your voice is great !

Hybris got me there, I tried one of Ann's new movable darlings but it all came to nothing.

Ann2: Cheryl dear, the mere sound of your voice is great ! Ann darling, I miss you! :-( Email me, we must set a time to meet at Pemberley! :-)

Hooray!!! Book arrived today. Now a crash read before Saturday....

Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! Go Kate! ;-)

As an ignorant newcomer, I am tempted to rush out an order a copy of the book too. But having read Emma Tennant's "An unequal Marriage - P&P continued", which I found totally repulsive, can anyone advise if Darcy's Story would fare better to an ardent admirer of JA's P&P ???

Serena: can anyone advise if Darcy's Story would fare better to an ardent admirer of JA's P&P ??? You may just want to wait til the discussion begins here on Saturday and see if the reviews are favorable or not. :-)

Cheryl is also organising a book swap. People who have a copy might be able to mail you a copy, then you can pass it on when you are done.

I just finished it last night. :-)

Finished!!!

Finished my second (slower) reading yesterday, thanks to Tracey's loan. I'm afraid I won't be in the discussion until Monday (computer access only at work, don't you know), but this will not, as usual, prevent me from adding my tuppence worth.

I, too only have access at work, but I'm looking very forward to Monday!

One of these days, we have to figure out how to make this system -- or another -- send posts by email. There are ways.

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Cheryl, not that you've revealed your MASTER PLAN, I have to admit it IS brilliant in its simplicity! And here I thought we'd all have to meet on a dark corner somewhere in Bath, wearinng muslin dresses and a carnation!

Now, let me see....we are supposed to discuss it first, then read it. Right?

What shall I do? Oh, what shall I do? Mine's in transit, I hope! Torn between wanting to know right away when you guys start your discussion, and wanting to read the book first before being influenced by your excellent opinions. What to do, oh, what to do! (I'm in a rabbit stew)

Amy, would it be a good idea to do a separate thread for the DS discussion on textual errors, inconsistencies, mistakes etc (so we could just make a great big list of them all) and leave the main thread for discussion about the substantive merits of the book? Oh, and BYW, it might be an idea (what do other people think?) to copy and send our comments to Copperfield Books? The author might be interested in what a group of Austen addicts (who aren't academic purists) think of her book? But then again, maybe we should wait and see what we say....

BTW, that should be BTW not BYW

Good idea on the seperate topic, Kate. It would distract. Janet does come here once in a while.

Amy2, RE#20; and the lace, my dear :)

Amy do you mean janet the author Janet?

] Amy do you mean janet the author Janet? ___ Yes. According to the user list she hasn't stopped by for about a month, though.

Serena, I've read Emma Tennat's first P&P sequel; it is amazing to me that someone allowed her to write one let alone two but I'll not start raving yet. Having said all that, I think you will enjoy Darcy's Story. I can lend my copy to you, if you like.

I think we should let Janet A. make the choice if she wants to read our comments or not. I speak feelingly as a fellow writer. . .

But should we let her know that we're doing it?

About Janet Aylmer's involvement,, I think that many people would feel uncomfortable about expressing their feelings if they knew that she would be following the discussion. People should feel free to weigh in with negative comments if they wish; there's not much point in discussing the book if all we say is "liked it" and "thank you." Of course there's no way of preventing Janet from reading the posts and we wouldn't want to anyway, but while we're "talking" I think we should feel free to be as uninhi ited as usual. ;-)

I agree with Anne, being an author you should already be prepared for some criticism. It would be unnatural if she wasn't. If you liked the book great and if you didn't it should be why. Personally, sequels are never as good as the original. I have not read Darcy's story and really have no inclination to. I can imagine what continued after the last page in the book. By all means we have the Constitution of the United States that clearly states that we have the Freedom of Press and Freedom of Speech. So go to it gals and no holds barred.

I don't mean to censor our discussion! I just think that before sending off a list of our comments to Janet, we should ask her whether she wants to receive them or not. I know that Harlan Ellison, the great sf short story writer, DOES NOT want to see comments on his work posted to his topic on GEnie, and that's certainly his perogative.

I would very much prefer Janet Aylmer deciding for herself to read our comments. We may have the pleasure of expressing what we think but let's not force it upon her. She knows that we are reading it and am sure she'll make the connection as to some comments might follow as well. Freedom of speach is precious but let's keep it under good regulation shall we?

Amy2: I just think that before sending off a list of our comments to Janet, we should ask her whether she wants to receive them or not. Amy, I don't believe there is any reason or need for us to send off our unsolicited comments to the author. She is registered for Spring, if she wishes to read our comments, she may without having them forced upon her. Sounds like it will be an interesting discussion tomorrow...looking forward to it! ;-)

Help!!! I have been frantically searching bookstores for Darcy's Story, but no luck. Most of them haven't even heard of it! Stupid people! I am probably asking a question that's been asked and answered a billion times before but is there any bookstore that I can just pick the book up at or is it all mail order from internet? I would appreciate any info. even though I won't make it in time for the discussion.

Amy/Cheryl Are we going to have a separate thread for typos, mistakes, inconsistencies with P&P and with itself etc? I didn't want to go ahead and do this without the approval of the supervisors.... ;-)

Anne, try JABooks@aol.com. No, you won't find it generally available. You are in the US?

Anne, re your #37 post - I received one from Waterstone's in Boston yesterday. In the mean time I had ordered one from the Jane Austin Bookstore in Chicago. They do have it in stock and are mailing it to me Monday. If you want me to get it and forward it to you I will. If I don't hear from you or see a posting regarding this by Sunday nite I am calling Monday a.m. and cancelling it. You may e-mail me at Pandora620@AOL.

I will just say that all in all I thought Darcy's Story was a nice read. It was not any better than what our Derbyshire Writers' Guild has created, although it was certainly more complete. I would have liked more conversation between Darcy and his friends/relations during incidences not mentioned in P&P. But I thought most of it seemed to remain in character.

Anne, re your #37 and my #40 post, I didn't give you full e-mail address: Pandora620@AOL.com.

Karen.. (of Resp. 29), you are sincerely, all generosity.. But I fear I live on the other side of the world from you.. I suspect I'll be purchasing a copy of Darcy's story from JABooks store. I didn't read 'Pemberbely' but accidentially found An unequal marriage while on holidays in Australia - thought it would be great airplane-reading, but it left a foul taste in the mouth. I had to read P&P again after that to satisfy myself. .I cannot even bring myself to shelve the book with my JA's collection - it seems unappropriate. Thank you again. .

I agree with Kathleen. "Darcy's Story" is a very pleasant, quick read and does stay true to the original P&P, with only very few added scenes. On my second time through, though, I wasn't as enthralled as the first time; somehow our slew of writers at Pemberley Writers Guild, taken together, give a more complete picture of Darcy than does this book. I liked the touch of Darcy's second private talk with Mr. Bennet, after the latter knew of Darcy's part in the Lydia-Wickham affair. I especially like Darcy's lines: "And without her beside me, there can be no happiness for me in the future. So let there be no more talk of repayment, I beg of you. your consent to our marriage is more than enough compensation for me." I also liked the added trip to London before the wedding. The more I think about it, I like it very well, I like it very well indeed!

Generally, I liked it very much, as well. That trash peddled by Emma Tennant-this is not! In particular, I liked the way she began the book, highlighting Darcy's shyness and lonliness, and sincere desire to duplicate the happy marriage of his parents. I also liked the expanded role of Georgiana as Darcy's confidant. She sees through Caroline Bingley long before he does. I liked the way she described Darcy's thoughts on his way to London: "What irony of fate was it that Wickham seemed to continue to have t e power to injure him in those matters most dear to his heart. Also, I enjoyed the scene at the Gardiners when the eldest daughter asks Darcy if he likes Elizabeth: "She is someone on whom I know I can always rely." One thing I did have a problem with, though, was her over-reliance on JA. Obviously, the allusions are welcome and necessary, but some pages read like direct quotes, and others could have been better incorporated. Darcy's reaction upon learning of Mr Collin's proposal("it does not bear thinking about") also struck me as kind of awkward and contrived, even forced.

] Darcy's reaction upon learning of Mr Collin's proposal("it does not bear thinking about") also struck me as kind of awkward and contrived, even forced. Cassandra -- I agree. This seemed the most awkward of the additions to me. Plus, I have trouble believing Mr Bennet would have shared such news (Mrs Bennet, maybe, but not Mr Bennet). And Darcy's reaction was too much, since there was never any chance of Elizabeth marrying Mr Collins.

I haven't had a chance to read the book, having received it yesterday, but did want to tell anyone who is searching that I ordered the book from Waterstone's in Boston on Wednesday evening and it was on my doorstep in Virginia on Friday. The charge was $12 + $4.11 S&H. Their number is 617/859-7300. I hope that the book is as good as their delivery service.

Overall I liked Darcy Story; I liked it more the second time around (the Guild has spoiled me exceedingly). I agree with Cassandra, Kathleen and Inko's comments regarding the positives of the book such as the better understanding of Darcy's shyness and Georgiana's expanded role. I also would have like to have seen more dialog with Darcy's and friends. The conversation with Lady C. was very amusing.

I'll put this info on here one more time. If I do not receive a request by tonight I'll call Monday a.m. and have book cancelled. I received a copy of Darcy's Story from Waterstones in Boston and just before I did I put in an order to Jane Austen books in Chicago. They have it and are mailing it to me this coming week. If anyone wants me to get it and forward it to them e-mail me at Pandora620@AOL.com or failing to be able to e-mail me, put a post on today. I am unable to to e-mail a lot of places off AOL, so put name and address. I did enjoy it and, no - it was not another Tennant badie. Ann, I think you were the one who wanted it badly.

Again, what I liked the best was the begining. I like the way she described Darcy's transformation from this proud, completely in control person to this ardent, romantic would-be suitor, overwhelmed by his passion for Miss Elizabeth Bennet. Notably: "Before he knew what he had done, Darcy had written a swift note to his cousin Fitzwilliam." "Despite himself, and contrary to any intention of which he was consciously aware, after another half hour he found himself ringing the bell at the parsonage......but nything was better than not being in her presence." I loved thoses passages, cetainly in keeping with my impressions of Mr Darcy! I also noticed how her many descriptions of Darcy's long, lingering looks had CF written all over them! What I didn't enjoy as much were the later passages, after the second proposal. Without JA to rely on, Ms Aylmer's imagination seemed to have been stifled. I didn't like the Collins addition and the others seemed abrupt, unimaginative, and awkward. We expect more from Darcy and Elizabeth. I particularly thought the scene in Lady Catherine's room, when Darcy tells Lizzy the room is hers, was disapointing. It was over before it began.

Cass, I agree with you about some of the later scenes, but I still do like the second talk with Mr. Bennet, re: repayment for Lydia/Wickham expense. I like the idea of them going to London, but agree with you (and Lizzie) that her father (and Aylmer) should not have mentioned Collins' proposal - and I don't think Mr. Bennet would have mentioned it. The last two chapters are very abrupt, I agree. My whole trouble is that I have now read Darcy's Story twice, and our own fan fiction countless times so that I'm completely muddled as to who wrote what!!!;-)

I too liked the book on the whole. I liked Aylmer's faithfulness to Austen and to the period. But I have to agree that much of what's posted at our Derbyshire's Writer's Guild is superior, because it seems to me that those stories give more of an insight into Darcy's inner turmoil and feelings. Since DARCY'S STORY is written from _his_ P.O.V., I thought he shouldn't have remained as much of an enigma as he did in P&P. But I really liked the choice of making Georgiana Darcy's confidante -- this seems he e choice. I also enjoyed the scene where Darcy gets to experience Lady C's "abuse" of Elizabeth & account of their "chat" at Longbourne firsthand. I agree that I would have liked to see more original material, and less Austen. We are probably a more jaded group than the average readership, because we are so incredibly familiar with the text, and having to re-read it within the context of a new book gets a bit tedious.

I now find myself with 2 copies of Darcy's Story. Anyone who nees one can e-mail me at arab@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us. Let me know, Maud

I, too, enjoyed the book. Her characterizations are usually right in line with my impressions. I think that we have had so many excellent stories here that contain so much imagination and passion, that we have come to expect a great deal of both. I noticed a bit of Davies' influence. One example which takes place at the Lambton Inn, "Without realising what he did, Darcy took the nearest chair and, leaning forward, took her hand in his." JA allows no touching on this occation. I was a little ambivalent about Georgiana becoming his confidante, at first. But on subsequent readings, it seemed more natural. One thing that I noticed, Aylmer does not have Darcy considering Bingley as a match for Georgiana as JA does in Chapter 45. "Not a syllable had ever reached her of Miss Darcy's meditated elopement. To no creature had it been revealed, where secrecy was possible, except to Elizabeth; and from Bingley's connections her brother was particularly anxious to conceal it from that very wish which Elizabeth had long ago attributed to him, of their becoming hereafter her own. He had certainly formed such a plan, and without meaning that it should affect his endeavour to separate him from Miss Bennet, it is probable that it might ad something to his lively concern for the welfare of his friend. All in all, I think that Janet Aylmer did a very good job and stayed very true to the book. I enjoyed Darcy's story very much. Linda

Can anyone give me the ISBN for this book? I haven't been able to find it either. I'd like to try to get it on interlibrary loan and read it before I buy it. Now that so many people have said it is good, I'd really like to read it. And now I know that perhaps I shouldn't buy the Tenant books!

]And now I know that perhaps I shouldn't buy the Tenant books! Indeed you should NOT! I found Darcy's Story to be a quick, enjoyable read. I seem to agree with what has been said so far: Liked Georgiana being a confidant, the nice additional scenes (I would have like to some originality when Darcy finds Wickham/Lydia--not just quoting from JA), etc. Disliked the overreliance on JA, the Collins engagemnt bit (specially as I think Darcy probably heard the gossip re:Mr. C's intentions at the N'Field ball). On the whole though, I did like it alot.

Lynn, You may want to try Jane Austen Books, that's where I got mine. I sent them an e-mail request and they sent the book to my house with an invoice for $14.00. Jane Austen Books 860 N. Lake Shore Dr., Ste. 21-J Chicago, IL 60611-1751 (312) 266-0080 fax (312) 266-0081 JABooks@ail.com ISBN 0-9528210-2-8 Good luck. Linda

Maud, do you still have that 2nd copy? I could buy it off you instead of ordering from the store.

#57 I proof-read the ISBN before posting, but not the email address; aol not ail, of course. JABooks@aol.com. Hope this didn't cause a problem for anyone.

Here's a place that has it as well online: http://www.bookshop.co.uk/ This is the Internet Book Store online -- they're based in England & delivered my copy inside of 2 weeks.

I have finished reading the copy that Tracey loaned me, and I can forward it to anyone who wishes to borrow it, rather than return it to Tracey first. Just send me an e-amil with your address (to mari.topitzes@mfa.com). I will CC Tracey with the info on where her book has gone so that she can keep tabs. Since she picked up the postage for sending it to me, I'll do the same for you, and so on down the line.

I agree with most all that's been said, so at the risk of sounding redundant.... I would have liked JA to have been a little more daring and not relyed so much on the Austen dialogue. I actually liked the second half better than the first. I also think Mr. Bennett would have told something he shouldn't. Didn't he like to "inflict pain before the pleasure". I can see him saying it for the reaction and to see how everyone else in the house would be upset by it. I am a big fan (as I have stated in other lines before) of eavesdropping on LC telling Darcy about her chat with Lizzie nd wanting to see him practically run all the way back the Meryton. Isn't someone in the Guild working on this? Hurry, Hurry!!!

Well, I have received my copy (from the Internet Bookstore) and I believe I share the opinions expressed here. I think some of my disappoint may stem from the anticipation of receiving and reading the book. After becoming throughly enraptured with P & P, I wanted this story to be equal. Oh well, it's Friday night, so I will have my weekly date with Lizzy and Mr. Darcy et al.

Amy I at last have had a chance to drop in. Any comments on Darcy's Story are welcome - good or bad ! I would have liked to include a bit more detail in some of the areas mentioned, but the physical limit for the book was 240 pages because of the printing cost, including the pages at the beginning and end, so ... !!! Jane Austen Books in Chicago have apparently ordered more copies from Copperfield Books - now I know where some of them are going. Also the Book is No. 2 in the top 100 sold by the Interent Bookshop over the past month, and has been for some weeks. Everyone has their own view on Darcy's side of P&P - I am intereste dto know all of yours. Best Wishes to everyone from Janet Aylmer.

Thanks for stopping by, Janet. I would be interested to hear of the source for those book sales figures. If we are that much of a force, I'd like to be able to prove it. So you've read some of the fanfic by our number? What do you think?

Serena, sorry--I only just read your post. I've been out of touch lately as I started a new job. Anyway, my remaining copy is out on loan. I think I'll keep it and just loan it out. So on that basis if you're still interested when I get it back you're welcome to borrow it.

[Also the Book is No. 2 in the top 100 sold by the Interent Bookshop over the past month, and has been for some weeks] Congradulations, Janet.

Isn't that flattering, Amy, having Janet Alymer checking into this conference? Maud, thanks for the reply, would love to read the book, Think I'll try again with JA Books (they never confirmed my order, 2 weeks ago) since I would like to have a copy in my collection.

Janet is a very brave woman, IMHO! Kudos for her stopping by. That really is something about the Internet Book Sales #, because that's a pretty darned big online supplier of books. I wonder to what extent WE'RE responsible. . .

A latecomer joining in. I think it would be interesting to know Colin Firth's take on the events in Darcy's life. As an skilled actor preparing for the role, he no doubt re-created -- in his mind or perhaps even on paper -- many of the experiences not found in the book. I wonder if his view would decidedly different from DARCY'S STORY?

Jacque, yes it would, and certain members of this esteemed group would give buckets of their own blood to get their hands on these reflections! (Cheryl, see you at the blood bank...)

There are a few hints of what CF thought about Darcy in "The Making of P&P" in his interview. He said "For example, in that first assembly-room scene I have to go in and be hurt, angry, intimidated, annoyed, irritated, amused, horrified, appalled, and keep all these reactions within this very narrow framework of being inscrutable because nobody ever knows quite what Darcy's thinking." There's a lot more of that kind of thing in the book - rather insightful, actually.

I love the Colin Firth interview in The Making of P&P. I learned more from that interview about what motivated Darcy than I did in all of Darcy's Story I'm afraid...

Inko, sounds like you just 'sold' another book to me. Poor CF, Darcy is so complex in emotions, it must have been difficult to portray, and he did a wonderful job. But this is not drool.. so, off I go now with 3 books to get from the bookstore.

My copy of The Making of P&P is on order so I haven't gotten to explore that yet. I am looking forward to it. Thanks for the direction.

]I learned more from that interview about what motivated Darcy than I did in all of Darcy's Story I'm afraid... Me too. Darcy's Story to me just seemed to domesticate Darcy too much - somehow it seemed a little mundane?

Darcy should remain the half-tamed stallion that he is that so lures our (still) girlish hearts, even in sequels, hmmm? [A friend of mine once commented on how "like a wild thing" young Timothy Dalton looked in his film version of Wuthering Heights, too...]

Kate, I agree with you. Some of the appeal of Darcy is the mystery surrounding him. He did become mundane, indeed.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who had this reaction

Alas, count me among your number. Maybe Austen left the mystery around Darcy in in P&P for a reason. . .

Amy2: Maybe Austen left the mystery around Darcy in in P&P for a reason. . . Correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't you the one, Amy, who said we all had to read this book...? ;-)

Usually everyone here is on top of what is very good and just OK. Next time I will get more information. The fact is that it might be unavailable and then I would regret not buying it.

You're correct, Cheryl...I was remembering the very post...

I have wound up with 2 copies of Darcy's Story. If anyone wants one e-mail me at Pandora620@AOL.com.

Well, I'm _kind of_ guilty. Someone else started this topic, and in a wild rush of enthusiasm, I joined right in! I DO like the book -- don't get me wrong -- but I also think there's something exciting about Darcy remaining a cipher, as he does in P&P. I'm loving the fiction in the Derbyshire Writer's Guild, though, which fully flushes out Darcy. So call me contradictory, I guess!

Amy2 are you around now? Do you know much about video production? I have a question. Meet me in the drawing room?

...loving the fiction in the Derbyshire Writer's Guild, though, which fully flushes out Darcy... I like that "flushes out Darcy" - sounds like either a) a hunting dog flushinig a pheasant or duck out of hiding, or b) (god forbid) flushing him out of our system, so to speak, or c) maybe the fiction is "fleshing out" the cryptic portrayal of Darcy by Austen. ;-) Someone in Drool fan fiction referred to a boots-on version of Darcy and Lizzy's honeymoon (I've done it, ladies, but it's X, not R, so the net nannies would faint at Spring if posted!)

Wendy, dearest, you do have my email address? ;-)

Wendy, I hope you also have my email address!;-) And I can assure you, I don't have to be "carded" anymore!;-)

Me too please... ;-)

Please include me on your list as well Wendy.

Let me, a newcomer, respond to Darcy's Story. No one writes like JA, but this is better than most continuations in my estimation. It offers other angles that the mind can try on for size. I am a life member of JASNA and will be(hold your breaths) going with the JASNA group on tour to England in June for 11 days. We'll see some movie and Janes life sites, including a never before tour of Godmersham . So , you see even a devoted Janite can and did enjoy a detour into extended fiction! Jean

Let me add that I sent to England for my copy and had it in just over a week, for 15 bucks, too. Plus a dear letter from the publishers. Why do the english have such a charming way with words, how did we Americans lose that?

Glad to see you here, Jean.

Wendy, Please add me to the list of people you are emailing.

Wendy, please add me as well. I am panting in anticipation!

Wendy, me too, please! The e-mail I sent you a while back is still the one to use. Let me know if you need it again.

Wendy, "flushing out a character" is Hollywoodspeak for uh. . . flushing out a character. Making it fuller. So...is that "X' version ever going to be made available to the more lavicious of us online? Cheryl, help me out here!

Amy2: "lavicious"?? Quite a freudian slippism, doubtless, for "la [the] vicious female writer who dares to be lascivious?"" ;-) I've a few ways & means I'm considering...a spiral booklet with the romantic and daggy versions available, so readers can decide which they prefer and discard the other (for you over 21[18?] readers)...a one-time web page which will self-destruct in 24 hours after reader's done...sequential emailing segments alla cliffhanger serials ... Shall let you know after decision made...but in all honesty, I cannot say it will be any match for/better than the superb fiction already here from all P&P addict-authors n residence!

]will self-destruct in 24 hours after reader's done...Ok "Mission Impossible" Wendy

"Attagirl" Donna! LOL: I was thinking of a sort of Trekkie phenomenon, where you look out over the com (-puter window) into virtual space, trying to sneak a second read of the daggy version romance, when vooooom! it dissolves before your glazed gaze can quite finish that last...

P.S. sort of a MACBETH parody: "Is it a daggy that I see before me?"

Wendy -- ROTFLOL! (I don't think I want to hear the next line. ;-))

"X-rating turned toward my heart. Come, let me clutch thee!" Wendy, give me a break. When I made that typo, I had just returned from a 13-hour day at Disneyland. More crowded than I've ever seen it in over 35 years. No joke.

I agree with those who like the mystery surrounding Darcy. I guess that's why I am of two minds about reading Darcy's story. Does anyone have a copy they'd be willing to let me borrow? I tried to get it on interlibrary loan, but the only two libraries in the country that owned it charged!! At any rate, it someone would let me borrow a copy, I'd be grateful!! E-mail me at lynn@xtdl.com. I must say, I have finally gotten around to reading the fan fiction and have really enjoyed it, and now shall have o check out the Derbyshire Writers' Guild. What talent there is here!!

Lynn, Fan fiction and the Derbyshire Writers Guild are basically the same thing (though if you are new here, there will be lots of stuff you haven't seen in the current Fan Fic topic).

Ann: How does it work? Are stories first posted to the Fan Fiction topic, then archived to the Writer's Guild?

"Are stories first posted to the Fan Fiction topic, then archived to the Writer's Guild?" Exactly so.

I've finished the copy of Darcy's Story lent to me (Tracey owns it, Mari graciously sent it on). Would anyone like to borrow it next? Lynn? Email me at EZFan@aol.com. I have to admit that I read it in almost one sitting, but that said, I don't think it's great. The text seemes very flat - came to life in several places, mostly quoted here, in which Darcy speaks. Perhaps I'm expecting too much from a sequel, but I keep reading them. I've read some Tennant (awful), Barrett (even worse), Aiken (OK, I gu ss). The sequels/related books that have given pleasure are 1) A Visit to Highbury by Joan Austen-Leigh (Emma from another point of view. Letters between Mrs. Goddard and her sister - who suffers herself from some of Emma's faults). 2) The Stephanie Barron Jane mysteries. They are heavy handed, but fun to imagine. 3) Fay Weldon's Letters to Alice on first reading Jane Austen.

Susan, thanks for the offer, but Johanne has already e-mailed me, and will be lending me a copy. I stayed up way too late last night reading the stuff at DWG. I had read everything at Fan Fiction and wanted to go back and read the beginnings. I've been here since January, but I haven't had time to read everything yet, so I always feel like I'm playing catch-up. Looking forward to reading the book.

Lynn, I enjoyed Darcy's Story, but I think that reading all this group's Fan Fiction will spoil you for Janet Aylmer's story. Do not expect too much imagination nor any passion. But, I hope that you will ejoy it anyway.

Linda, I completely agree with you. Reading Darcy's Story did not give me any more insites than what has been written in FanFiction. And I enjoy reading that much more.

Wendy please add me to your email list. Have loved all the fiction that I have read. I just got Darcy's Story yesterday and spent all night reading. I enjoyed it, but I think the fan fiction is just as good!!!

Wendy, put me on the email list too. I can say I have liked the fan fiction. I read Darcy's Story about a month ago (I was shocked to have found that I read it all in the same day), and even for its oopses, I still enjoyed it. True...I have to agree with a lot of other people saying that he loses some of that P&P mystery that excites us, but I still liked it a lot. I also read Dorothy Alice Bonavia-Hunt's pastiche, called Pemberley Shades: A Novel (It's out of print now and hard to trace, bu I found at the public library). It actually is not bad at all, worth reading too. It is nothing like the infamous Tennant I have heard so much about (I heard she was bad, so I think I won't bother with her books).

CF, In Another Country (not Darcy, but that look is so...) Ladies, I thought we lacked visuals here, so...

try this: http://www.grin.net/~meluchie/firthlist/judd3.jpg

Whoa, big hair!