What we enjoy in P&P2...

Let's see, in P&P2, when Darcy quickly changes into decent attire to meet Lizzy on his ground at Pemberly. Liked the way, he initally excused himself from her (very abruptly) and then can imagine him changing frantically and as he hurried out the door, there was a doorman looking on. Him looking on at the carriage taking Lizzy and the Gardiners away from Pemberly. He had that priceless look and pose. If this topic was open to other adaptations, like Emma, I would be posting here endlessly.

There are so many, I must watch it again to remember the specifics, then come back.....what a pity!! :-) Be back in 6 hours!

Since you ask, Karen, I enjoy the "Nature" motifs that they put into the adaptation- the use of birdsong (in the proposal scenes, the letter-writing scene, the Ramsgate scenes) and the references to trees (horse-chestnuts, Lydia's humming, the use of the Rosings beeches) Just for the record, they also did a really good job of choosing the right regional architecture for the different places, too, much more successfully than in Emma3. I can look at scenes, adn say, yes, that really looks like Derbyshire, r yes, Hertfordshire houses do look like that.

I enjoy all the scenes where Darcy & Lizzy politely quarrel back & forth as the tension creates a sort of sexual energy between the characters that cannot be explicitly expressed. I especially enjoy the scene at the ball where Lizzy presses Darcy to carry on some sort of conversation as they dance so that she might form an opinion about his character. Very tense indeed. The scene where Darcy is fencing ("I shall conquer this!") & the "cold shower" scene in the lake help to express Darcy's "desires" as wel . I think these were good brief additions to the original story line of the novel. They make Darcy more human and touchable; more longing and loving.

Well, I think there's just too many to count, but I have to add my vote to the scene where Lizzy leaves Pemberly after the surprise meeting. Listen to the music as she turns around and sees Darcy standing there. It's perfect. I also like "the look" they exchange the next evening at Pemberly while Georgiana is playing.

Karen, you created this after I bailed out of chat last night! Do you ever sleep? ;-) Caroline, I also love the birdsong throughout this production. I downloaded a lot of Darcy's comments onto my computer, and every time one plays from an outside scene I'm struck by the birds singing. Beautiful! One of my favorite mental snapshots is the pose Darcy strikes as he watches Lizzy and the Gardiners leave Pemberley in the carriage. I think it's supposed to be what Lizzy sees as she looks back. I would have leaped out of the carriage...

Sorry, Sandy, I just realized that's the scene you were talking about above! Guess I wasn't listening to the music there... ;-P"

The places where Lizzie goes about being herself without regard: - walking to Netherfield, over the stile, skirts amess, shoulder shrug - playing with the dog despite the atmosphere not being conducive - running through the wood at Rosings - appreciating the scenery on the rocks with the Gardiners

I must admit that one of the sections of my tape that is thoughly worn through is when Lizzie comes upon Mr. Darcy at Netherfield after her three mile walk...I love her look of obstinance and his smile is priceless. He looks as though he want to just laugh out loud, but too much the gentleman to do so. When Lizzie asks him to direct her to her sister, oh my, that little jerk he does just sends me over the edge! Sigh!!! Then they walk towards the house...prey, forgive me...I just love the way this man moves!

Taking a cue from Candace (I love that scene too)... I love watching his coat flow in that scene and when the men are coming in from hunting. Although the overall scene was painful, at the Netherfield Ball (the sit down dinner part) when Mary is about to play her second number. Elizabeth's expression is priceless. She is trying to stay calm but her eyes are popping out of her head. The poor thing.:-(

Any scene with Darcy in the grey coat always does something to me. I loved the way he walked back to Rosings after the first proposal-so tortured. Yes-CAndace the man can move. I also loved JE's reaction when she steps in the mud-pure Lizzy-let's get on with it attitude. Other fav scenes: The fencing scene tops my list-I shall conquer this. I shall! The billiard room sequence. That's heat! The pianoforte scene at Rosings-"we neither of us perform to strangers.." -and especially the Pemberley scenes. I was completely charmed by CF's "but your good opinion is not easily bestowed and therfore more worth the earning." Did anyone love CF's reactions/look when he is in the carriage on the way to London to track Wickham down? For me, that's 15 seconds of intense, brooding, tortured passion in motion!

Ooh! I love 'em when they're tortured! ;-)

I'll try not too go on too long... One thing that always strikes me as funny is Mr Collins at breakfast the day after the proposal--he grunts like a pig at the trough, and his mouth is so full he cannot even say anything to Lizzy. At Pemberley, when he comes running out to catch Lizzy before they leave, I am always struck by how hard it must have been to come out of his shell and be so polite with the Gardiners. He really exerted himself, and of course he probably would have done anything to keep Lizzy there for awhile!! I too love the look back when she is leaving, and him standing there looking after her. I am so glad I am not the only one who loves the way those coats follow the men in the hunting scene and that other scene outside Netherfield! So..manly, or somthing. And you are all right, he really CAN walk!! I also love the look on Darcy's face when he comes back to Longbourn after J&B are engaged. He comes in, bows to Lizzy, and then stares at her, as if he thinks he might find some trace of her feelings for him there, searching her eyes. And yet he has a little bet of torture in his face, too. Heart rending, even though it only lasts a few seconds. I would melt then and there!

I agree with all of the above. My tape is worn in just about all the Darcy moments - at this point I may have to invest in a second set of tapes!! Other moments I love are the arguments at Netherfield, especially the second evening discussing vanity and pride. He looks like he doesn't know whether to laugh or be angry with Lizzie, ends up admitting too much for his own good, and is absolutely befuddled by the end - and that lovely stare at the end!! Another moment for me is when he's writing the letter, comes to the part about Georgiana and his face is so tortured as he remembers all the pain. Love it when Lizzie looks back while leaving Pemberley and he stands there. Wonder if it reminded her of the portrait she'd just seen - it did remind me of that - the master at home in his own garden! No wonder her love started from her first seeing the grounds at Pemberley -- look what she saw there!! Then, of course, there is the scene in the Lambton Inn after reading Jane's letter with Lizzie's tears and his worried look. I could go on and on - I don't think there is a moment that is not a favorite, it's just that some are more favorite than others!!;-)

Ingrid - I too loved the scene at Lambton Inn when Lizzie was crying & Darcy takes her hand to comfort her. You can tell he wants to just envelope her in his arms but must remain "reserved." I love it when he keeps putting his hand up to his face because he is so obviously distressed by Lizzie's grief. Also, when Darcy is so surprised to see Lizzy "on foot" to visit sick Jane, you can tell he is impressed by her strength & fortitude even though she is not extremely pleased to see him. I think at this point he has already developed a fondness for her. All of the scenes from Pemberley are to die for. I love the look on his face when Lizzy comes to Georgianna's rescue from Miss Bingley's "Wickham" comments. And the way he laboured all night over his letter to Elizabeth at Lady Catherine's estate. Poor tortoured soul!!!!! And I agree with all of you that there is definetly something very manly & sexy about those coats - especially when Darcy is wearing them!

In the scene where the Gardiners and Lizzy are leaving Pemberley and she looks back at Darcy, I wish they had done a close-up of Firth. Before she turns, he must have been hoping and praying that she would. When she does finally turn, he must have had the sweetest smile on his face. But then, perhaps it is better to leave it to the imagination.

Oh yes! All of the above are my favourites too. I am sure somebody must have mentioned these before, but here's a few more: - The double-take. - When Lizzy looks up and sees him by the window as they arrive at the Netherfield ball. You can tell he's been waiting for her. - His first look as he sees her come in with Bingley and Jane at the Netherfield ball. - When he smiles as Lizzy dances with Mr.Collins right after his small accident. - Darcy's walk down the hall at Pemberly after the second visit. Absolute favourite scenes: The dance at the Netherfield ball. First visit to Pemberley. My favourite line:"Your good opinion is rarely bestowed and therefore more worth the earning" First time in my life, I have ever seen a screen adaptation that I liked even better than the novel itself. I think all those extra scenes that we all seem to love enhances the beauty, the humour, the romance in the novel in a way JA would have approved. I absolutely love the whole thing! But don't we all..

Just watched the last 2 hours again, and the scene where (after everyone has gone to bed, I guess) and Darcy walks back with candlelight to the paino room and recalls the look Lizzy had given him, when she was turning the page for Miss Darcy, his dreamy, longing, wishing, hoping and loving facial expression..hmmm

This topic was a good idea, Karen. I like hearing from the newer people about their special moments too.

Another memorable scene is when Darcy arrives at the Collins's to propose to Elizabeth and he is quite tortoured and out of breath. He moves about the room nervously from mantel, to chair, to standing in front of her with heavy breath. She has no idea what he is up to and thinks him the fool as always. "No, this will not do!"

In the Rosings scenes, I can't get enough of Barbara Leigh-Hunt. She is a scream. My favorite is when she first meets Lizzy and asks her a question about her sisters being "out," and Lizzy replies, but then--scandalous!!--goes on to offer her own opinion. L-H has turned her head the other way, in dismissal, but Lizzy's continuing to speak causes her to swivel her head slowly to the left, her eyebrows arching in amazement--"What! The chit is still talking!" Priceless!

Megan, "the walk down the hall" Don't you know he's really skipping inside! "She's been here! In my home!"

Cindy - that "stride" down the hall is euphoric indeed!

I like the scenes at Hunsford Parsonage and Rosings when Lizzie is teasing Darcy. The expressions on Colonel Fitzwilliams face show that he his highly amused by Darcy's discomfort. Also, the scene at the Netherfield ball when Mr. Collins comes up to Darcy and starts speaking to him unannounced. Darcy has a look of absolute astonishment, then disgust on his face. Also, watch Darcy at Lucas Lodge when Mrs. Bennet tells Mary that "No one wants to hear your concertos!" He is very discomfitted by her lack of manners and propriety.

I also love the facial expressions when Jane receives the letter from Caroline inviting her to dine with them. When Mrs. Bennett suggests that it looks like rain and Jane will be forced to spend the night, the look on Jane's face is that of complete horror. And Mr. Bennett looking out the window and back at Jane is marvelous. I envision him thinking "Well, she reeled me in -- I guess she knows of what she speaks."

definitely the walk down the hall with the candles and dogs. the music playing is a reprise of the scene before (of Lizzy's song? I can't remember) When Lizzy arrives at the inn ant he's there with Georgiana "No, not at all" and that brief glimpse you get of him when L is talking to Bingley at the inn, and Darcy is behind him, almost smiling, because Lizzy is getting on so well with Georgiana When Lizzy and Georgiana are talking about Darcy at the piano, and they both look over at him and he realises they're talking about him. the long coats fencing at Pemberly: "You're not leaving?" When he rides in front of her in the forest at Rosings and just gives her this really long look (and I haven't seen it since June!)

My, Kate, then you're doing really well. (yes, it was Lizzie's song)

Kate, I love that look too! He lets down his guard, and he has a schoolboy look, like what are they saying about me? He knows he is the center of their attention, and is enjoying it. I also like the scene that shows Mrs Bennets transition from hysterical mother to perfect composure just before Hill announces B and D. I think Mr Collins' scenes are very comical. (The ones with Darcy go without saying!:-)

How about Alison Steadman as Mrs Bennet? Whenever I need a good laugh, I just watch her: "The very demon from Hell sent to ruin us all. Oh sister, OH SISTER STOP! And when Bingley comes to propose and she runs down the hall, curlpapers and all: "Oh JAne-He has come! Five more minutes will do the trick" I also loved the way she ran after Mr Collins after his refusal. And the way you can hear her screaching voice outside, when Charlotte is tallking to Kitty and Lydia. Hysterical! "Those Lucases were always such artful creatures. They are jus out for what they can get."

#11 'Did anyone love CF's reactions/look when he is in the carriage on the way to London to track Wickham down? For me, that's 15 seconds of intense, brooding, tortured passion in motion!' No, no, you've got it all wrong! He (like Roger and Elaine) is actually worrying about when the coach wheels were last replaced, and if the horse on the right that had the lame foot and shoe problems will make the distance.

Funny Hil.

Yes Cindy, yes! I also thought he was skipping inside as he walks down the hall. He is hopeful for the first time about her feelings towards him. As he goes by the fireplace and looks at the piano, you can tell he wants her there by his side, always... Sighhh! If I don't stop writing now, I won't be able to hold my tears any longer..

One of my favorites is when he's alone in the billiard room and Lizzie unexpectedly arrives. You can see that he wants to talk to her, that he's attracted to her but that his reserve gets in the way of entering into a conversation with her. Then when she leaves the room, he regrets his inaction and he forcefully hits that ball into the pocket. I can just imagine what he really wanted to do with her then!

Lisa - I agree he really wants to talk to her in this scene and in others to follow, but I think he is frustrated by the stand-offish way Lizzy always approaches him, which in turn puts him on the defensive. And he knows deep inside it is because she overheard the rude things he said about her at the "country dance." Interesting thought about his forceful pool playing!!!:-)

What I love about P&P2 is that it's such a great,clean romance movie that for some wonderful reason, I can watch it over and over again without losing that wanting to watch it again feeling. I have so many favorite parts in it, but I have to say, my favorite is when Lizzy is at Pemberley and runs into Mr. Darcy. It really shows how much he loves her and it shows Lizzy that Mr.Darcy is really a good person and not as proud as everyone thinks he is. I think the whole movie is my favorite part!!

One more please...when Lady Catherine is framed by the garden door, stretches out her arms- ("Are the grounds of Pemberly ...polluted speech) beautiful! (There are a few people I would love to stand up to, maybe thats why I like this one in TV and in the book) Wish I knew all the actors names, they deserve that much!

About one of our favourite scenes: Do you think Darcy is a little embarassed too when they run into each other after his swim? Maybe because he is soaking wet and not formally attired? I like to think that he is. It gives another explanation to why he cuts the conversation short, other than being startled and not being able to find something to say other than repeating himself. It also creates some equality between them, both look vulnerable. Megan

Darcy being caught in his swimmers was an excellent touch, it must have been embarrassing already as it was, to meet someone who had rejected his high-handed proposal because of his arrogance and family pride and then to run into her, almost undressed on your very own family estate!! Absolutely hilarious. And that bath scene where he looks out of Netherfield bathroom to see Lizzy playing fetch the stick with the dog, which made her appear so unlike stiff-elegant women of the time.

I've enjoyed reading all the fave scenes, all of which I concur most heartily. I love the way Darcy just rolls his eyes when his aunt wants her share of the conversation after he and Lizzy have been bantering by the piano at Rosings. I agree that Lady Catherine is a scream...I love the look she gives Lizzy (presumably she is looking at Lizzy) just before the first scene at Rosings ends. JE was such a hoot in that scene when she continues to talk and asks for Sir Williams's (Charlotte Lucas's father-- I seem to have forgotten his name at the moment!) opinion to which he can only sit there befuddled and speechless. The smiles that JE and Charlotte Lucas exchange at that moment are priceless indeed!

I love it when he plays with his pinky ring. Shows how nervous he is. Also, I prefer his green coat. Would love to have the Netherfield robe for myself.

After the swim, bumps into Lizzy, charing a few words then : a couple of tap on his chest (near his heart) with the nob of his cane and then bearly mumbling "excuse me"

I find it very hard to keep quiet too, Hil...you found a way out ROTFLOL...Guess we have had our fun, better let the other young ladies have time to exhibit, eyh?? It is delightful reading. Oh, I am giving in ...And I heve chosen my moment well, you won�t be able to laugh at this one. The switching of scenes from the knight on his white horse to the formal portrait of Darcy in the gallery - Lizzie fascinated - and outdoors again to the real man , dusty and hot, getting rid of his formal attire ...unbutto ing waistcoat ...to throw himself into the �water� ??

Who is conquering what?

Not you, Ann!

Do you think that he was on his way to ask her to marry him again, the day she gets the letters from Jane? Or just to try to reinforce all the good things that happened the night before? I love how abrupt he his with his valet when getting ready for that ride!! I love this topic - makes me relive everything over and over!

Lynn, that's the impression I got since he was so particular about how he dressed. That was a good touch. I don't think we get that impression from novel though. Whenever Darcy looks in her direction, throughout the entire 6 hrs, my heart skips a beat.. I must be a hopeless romantic.