conference business
Topic 42 · 125 responses · archived october 2000
~sysop
Thu, Nov 21, 1996 (21:38)
seed
How did this conference come about. Simple. I got this email that I had to respond to:
Dear Spring,
I have a crisis. Women the world over are mourning the loss of my
discussion group. Can we have a spot on your server for a little while,
while I figure out a way to get the board going again?
Topic is addiction to the recent A&E/BBC adaptation of Jane Austen's Pride
and Prejudice. Temp site where posters have collected to mourn the loss of
the board:
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/2773/wwwboard.html
Chat room where we talk (go to Pemberly Drawing Room):
Please help. We are desperate.
Amy Bellinger
mailto://amyloo@bluemarble.net
This topic is to talk about the conduct of this conference and where it is going. Post your suggestions for change. For improvement. For topics.
125 new of
~terry
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (00:10)
#1
Who knows, you may find a home *here*.
~jwinsor
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (03:44)
#2
Thank you, Terry, for the use of your hall! :-)
~jwinsor
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (03:45)
#3
Thank you, Terry, for the use of your hall! :-)
~kendall
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (06:59)
#4
Hi gang - glad to be here!
~geekman
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (07:58)
#5
G'day Terry,
Well I suppose it's about time I also voted a thanks to you for allowing this debate and maybe room on your server. And I'm a bloke too - that's Aussie for a male. Yes I'm a JA/P&P2 fanatic too.
~Donna
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (10:38)
#6
This is great terry. You don't know what your in for. This place will be "hottest"
~Becks
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (10:59)
#7
We'll Amy, it worked, and I'm here. Thank God. Looking forward to chatting!
~Amy
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (11:31)
#8
Good, Rebecca. Pray tell how you accomplished it so I can know how to help others who have trouble getting in.
~Amy
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (11:33)
#9
Actually, why don't we start a new Help topic. We can also get help at the Yapp conference but that stuff goes on a wider mailing list than just this Spring site. We could discuss our own tech troubles here then send an emissary over to post the summary at the Yapp conference. Sound okay to you guys?
~Marsha
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (12:11)
#10
Hey, it's great to find this place-it would serve as a surrogate P&P2 board!
Thanks for letting us use this-
is there somewhere I could find more about using this?
Great to see you all!
Marsha
~churchh
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (13:08)
#11
Amy -- "You're a bagel-biting, toad-mashing, back-froodler!!"
~mich
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (16:07)
#12
Let me add my thanks as well for the use of this site.
Mich
~Linda409
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (17:26)
#13
Hi Everybody. Glad to find you.
~Adi
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (17:34)
#14
Terry, thank you very much!, I'm very glad to be here.
~Inko
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (18:30)
#15
Terry, thank you so much for inviting us in. We were all desperate, and are happy to have found a new home.
~geekman
Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (18:49)
#16
G'day, Amy I don't mind being the group's emissary as I suggested I am already the sacrificial lamb on alt.config who has proposed a Jane Austen Newsgroup. No reponses yet though.
~DonnaT
Sat, Nov 23, 1996 (00:31)
#17
Thanks Terry for giving us a new home (does it come with instructions?)...
~terry
Sat, Nov 23, 1996 (10:36)
#18
Yeah, you can click on the help button. Also, when you telnet in and use
your shell account, there's detailed help. Do you use telnet Amy?
~terry
Sat, Nov 23, 1996 (10:54)
#19
One bit of advice abouting posting, if you double click on the submit
button you may post *two* or more copies of your response.
One click of the mouse is all ya' need!
~eryn
Sat, Nov 23, 1996 (15:57)
#20
What a lovely thing - to know I am not the only person who sacrifices entire days watching A&E-PP... and that you have a home to chat .. it's almost too good to be true.
~redfive
Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (08:48)
#21
Well, I finally found my way here - following links from so many sites in my quest for a P&P2 fix. Mind you, here in the UK I can comfort myself by visiting locations used in the series. Last month I was at Lyme Park (ie Pemberley)...
~redfive
Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (08:48)
#22
Well, I finally found my way here - following links from so many sites in my quest for a P&P2 fix. Mind you, here in the UK I can comfort myself by visiting locations used in the series. Last month I was at Lyme Park (ie Pemberley)...
~lampa
Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (12:41)
#23
hello everybody !
Nice to have found you again I hope Amy will soon get the P&P 2 BB going again otherwhise we poor addicts will go insane or;);)
Anna-Karin
~carolee
Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (16:02)
#24
Hi y'all
I've been lurking at Amy's BB and then was away from home for 5 weeks so was terribly disappointed when I got back. Let me add my thanks for this location to all of you. Two of the 5 weeks were in England where I visited Lyme Park, i.e. Pemberley, and Lacock, i.e. Meryton. Also worshipped at the shrine of JA's house in Chawton. Spent all of last night watching my tapes from start to finish so am finally at peace again. Looking forward to chatting with all of you.
Carol
~JanBruner
Mon, Nov 25, 1996 (12:38)
#25
Thanks, Terry. I'm glad to have been able to get into the new location. I've been lurking on the P&P2 BB for a couple of months and enjoy it tremendously. I miss Amy's Board, but at least there is something here now.
~JanBruner
Mon, Nov 25, 1996 (13:54)
#26
Thanks, Terry. I'm glad to have been able to get into the new location. I've been lurking on the P&P2 BB for a couple of months and enjoy it tremendously. I miss Amy's Board, but at least there is something here now.
~arnessa
Mon, Nov 25, 1996 (18:35)
#27
Hi all, I guess I just figured out how to use this thing. It's like coming
home again! Thanks, Terry. I'm so jealous of the people who've been to the
"real" Pemberley.
~Leslie
Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (06:11)
#28
Hello to you all from a somewhat new P&P2 addict, or a "Jane Junkie". Do you welcome new people into your fold? I too, watch P&P for hours at a time. My four year old can quote lines to the movie. A future addict? Glad to be here.
~Amy
Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (07:00)
#29
] Do you welcome new people
___________________
Of course, Leslie. One of the characteristics of our disesae is that we push the addiction. How did you find us?
Amy
~terry
Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (12:29)
#30
Amy, I like your new conference header with all the links. Y'all don't have to
think of yourselves as temporary here. You can settle in for the long haul if
you find this place to your liking. There's so much we can all do together. I love this group.
~norma
Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (15:16)
#31
Is this site for real? I have been trying to connect to the P&P2 chat line for the past week, and I'm not sure that I've made the right connections. Am I there?
~terry
Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (15:21)
#32
Norma, you have just entered the twilight zone. I don't know if you'll ever
make it back. But I think you've found the right place.
~jwinsor
Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (23:29)
#33
] I have been trying to connect to the P&P2 chat line for the past week
You are in the discussion room, which is fortunate, for if you met us at first in the chat room, you might question our sanity.
If yuo want to chat less formally, go to:
http://www.worldrch.com/cgibin/Chat/nph-chat.cgi?chat_room=Northam
and look in the pop-up menu for the Pemberley room.
Joan, too
~Leslie
Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (05:57)
#34
To AMY, of BB Fame
I am not that computer literate. I heard about the Jane Austen Society, from all places, TV Food Network. I told my husband that I was going to call my local University, (USC), thats SC, not CA! to find out how to join. My very literate computer brain husband said, "don't bother", go to the internet. I was amazed at all the info on Jane Austen. That is where I found your BB. I loved all the info on it! The links were fabulous. My husband has been very supportive to my addiction. See you at Pemberly!
~churchh
Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (07:59)
#35
Re: Jane Austen Society
Go to http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janausoc.html.
~norma
Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (14:56)
#36
Like the rest of you, I am a P&P2 fanatic. You don't know how happy I am to have found some fellow Janeites! Is there any particular time of the day that people spend in the chat room? I'd love to get in on some discussions.
~Leslie
Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (18:48)
#37
To the Mysterious H.C.
Thankyou for the help with the Jane Austin Society, but I joined a few weeks ago. By the way, do you have the A&E/BBC version of P&P? Are there pictures of Darcy etc...
~sasha
Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (20:02)
#38
Hello:
I was wondering if someone could help me. I have to write a paper on P&P. I have only read the book. I have not seen it on t.v. I am suppose to write about a theme in the book and do an oral presentation but i cant choose marriage. Any ideas please help me.
~Inko
Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (21:50)
#39
Sasha - here's an idea that I've been toying around with for quite a while. How about a paper of Art (or artifice) vs. Nature (or natural). I'm thinking of Elizabeth as representative of nature or a natural person (she liked to walk outdoors, didn't put on airs, etc.) vs. Caroline Bingley who is all artifice (she walked only when others could admire her), put a lot of stock in a person's manner of walking, tone of voice, etc., and altogether gave herself very artificial airs. I am sure there are a lot
ore examples in the book, if you look for them.
~Ann2
Fri, Nov 29, 1996 (00:50)
#40
Ahh, here at last. Good morning everybody and warm thanks to Terry for the shelter provided.
It *is* a bit tricky to find your way around, I seem to get to the right
places by mere chance. But then I suppose it is because I have not taken the trouble to practise/use the help button. Must try to improve as 'others' have done before me.
Time for work now, best wishes
Ann2
~PatK
Fri, Nov 29, 1996 (01:15)
#41
I've finally been able to meet you all here --and the location is very appreciated. I've been out of town since last Friday and have missed you all.
~Amy
Fri, Nov 29, 1996 (09:55)
#42
] I've finally been able to meet you all here --and the location is very appreciated. I've been out of town since last Friday and have missed you all.
______________-
We missed you, too, dear.
~Bobbi
Sun, Dec 1, 1996 (20:45)
#43
Good day, I am a member of a newly formed book club in Indiana. Our first month we read Hemingway and this month we read P&P. I could not make it through the novel during college... I was much like Lydia... but now could not put it down. We have our meeting tomorrow. If anyone has anything they feel I could take to the group as enlightenment, I would appreciate it.
~Ann
Sun, Dec 1, 1996 (22:46)
#44
Well let's see....
I) One of the main themes in Austen and in Austen's day was the difference between nature and artiface.
P&P can be read as the struggle between behaving in a natural way (Lizzy) and a more cultured or artificial way (Darcy). The same comparisons can be made between Lydia and Lizzy, and in fact many of the other characters.
Austen seems to come down in the middle. Both Darcy and Lizzy must adopt some of the other's characteristics before they can come together.
II) Austen loves to foreshadow! For example: Collins' proposal and what he says to Lizzy is a wonderful foreshadowing of her relationship with Darcy:
--You are to poor to be able to expect any other offers, then she gets one from one of the richest men in England.
--The fashion for young ladies to refuse the man they secretly mean to marry. There is lots of stuff to discuss on that one--when did Lizzy fall in love with Darcy? Perhaps it was much earlier than she could admit even to herself. Was Lizzy, perhaps subconciously, struggling with her heart as much as Darcy? but where his heart won the battle, Lizzy's head stayed firmly in control. When we think of Lizzy(nature) and Darcy(artiface) we usually think of Lizzy being ruled by her heart and feelings (though alw
ys properly tempered by her head) while we think of Darcy being ruled by his head, but in their early relationship perhaps these were reversed. Darcy was ruled more by his heart and Lizzy by her head.
Another foreshadow is the discussion/arguement between Lizzy and Darcy about a friend being easily persuaded to change his designs at only a suggestion from the friend. Darcy seemed to look down on anyone so weak-kneed, but then persuades Bingley to break off his attachment to Miss Bennet.
III) There are lots of characters that can be compared and contrasted to one another:
--Lydia v Georgiana (both attached to Wickham)
--Mrs. Bennet v Lady Catherine (both Lizzy and Darcy have unfortunate relations)
--Wickham v Darcy (same upbringing--very different results)
--Wickham v Fitzwilliam (both relatively poor, but one a slime ball and the other respectable)
--Darcy v Bingley (nature vs artiface again, also determination and personal strength vs some degree of wimpyness)
--Mr. Bennet v Darcy (one responsible the other irresponible)
--Lizzy v Charlotte (marrying for love vs marrying for more material considerations.)
--Jane v Lizzy (one energetic and spirited the other calmm and serene.)
IV) The changing views of the class structure. Darcy discovers that the Gardiners, who are on a very different social level from himself, are good, intellegent and interesting people, who, taken for themselves--without reference to their place in society, are certainly worthy of Darcy's aquaintance.
Also Caroline Bingley's convenient amnesia about where her family's money comes from (trade). She looks down on the Bennets, when her own history must be similar only a generation or two back.
V) And of course the themes of pride and prejudice. Both Darcy and Lizzy suffer from both. It is only when they each overcome these faults, that they can come together.
I hope that something above will help.
~Amy
Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (04:08)
#45
] Good day, I am a member of a newly formed book club in Indiana.
__________
Bobbi, welcome.
Where in Indiana? I am in Bloomington.
Did Ann give you enough fodder or would you like several more days worth of P&P conversation starters?
Amy
~churchh
Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (12:39)
#46
] P&P can be read as the struggle between behaving in a natural way (Lizzy) and a more cultured or artificial way (Darcy).
Anne, I actually always considered Elizabeth to be the more ``acculturated'' and Darcy to be more ``natural'', in the sense that he can't be bothered with some of the small everyday social conventionalites that keep the wheels greased. The Elizabeth-Darcy contrast is similar in some ways to the Elinor-Marianne contrast in S&S, where Marianne can never be bothered to utter little polite lies.
Elizabeth is very much her own person, and isn't afraid of going slightly against the conventionalities from time to time, but I see the basic Darcy-Elizabeth contrast as above...
~terry
Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (17:40)
#47
I think you have everyone stumped with your mystery quote, churchh!
Thanks for coming over to the 'books' conference and keeping company with Mixu. I encourage others to visit this conference and pump it up a bit. There are other good topics like the mystery quote.
~jwinsor
Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (19:23)
#48
Was the Spring down or something today? Someone sent me e-mail asking if I was able to get on - but I did not have time to try it from school today. Seems to be find now...
~terry
Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (19:55)
#49
Not that I know of, we may have a minor dns glitch. I'm looking into it.
If you can't get to http://www.spring.com then go to http://208.199.212.4
which is the same place in iptalk. You may want to go there now and bookmark it
for future reference.
~jwinsor
Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (20:49)
#50
"then go to http://208.199.212.4 which is the same place in iptalk."
Was just over at Pemberly, and Kaff just put that link in the header over there.
~Amy
Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (20:51)
#51
Very kind of you to do so, Kaff.
~paola
Tue, Dec 3, 1996 (19:41)
#52
I am so glad to have found you again. I was getting worried that the board
would just never be up again. By the way, did you guys see the new pictures
of Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle in the Friends of Firth homepage. They
look quite different I tell you.
Claudia
~Paola
Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (11:21)
#53
Hi! I know I am knew but I desperately love Pride and Prejudice and hope I may be allowed to join this conference board. I am also having a lot of problems trying with links.
Paola
PS Colin and Jennifer
~Paola
Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (11:22)
#54
Hi! It is me again I hope anyone out there can please help me because I am having a lot of problems putting up links. I've tried everything and I just can't seem to do it.
Paola
~terry
Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (11:27)
#55
Don't bother with all the tags:
Just put up your links like this:
http://www.firely.com
You don't need to use any html codes. Just put up the links
exactly like the one above. And you'll be fine.
~Paola
Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (18:29)
#56
OK here it goes
http://www.iupui.edu/~rogersc/PicSite/col_jen2.htm
~Paola
Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (18:32)
#57
Thank You Terry.
Just one more question, what does one do to actually make the picture appear
in the document and not for it to be linked?
Paola
~JohanneD
Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (10:24)
#58
No offense to Amy, your BB was great and was my first love. But like first love, you meet others and your taste focussed on what you prefer and I like Terry's way of presenting topics and posts. Easier to select topics and it's nice to see them all at once. The possibility of selecting, all-new-1 week, etc. is a major plus. When you're talking of having our new BB back, can't it be possible to have it here? Tell me if I missed something...
~Amy
Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (10:55)
#59
No, Johanne. Our plans are to keep it here.
~terry
Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (12:12)
#60
I hope you all are here for the long haul. We are, you know, masters
of our own destiney and we're not "stuck" with anything.
~tang
Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (00:33)
#61
anyone here?? this is my first time on this line so bear with me. i would just
like to say that i absolutely love john davies version of pride and prejudice
on a&e. anyone else?
~jwinsor
Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (00:41)
#62
Tang, you are in the best place to ask that question, since everyone else here will agree with you wholeheartedly!
~DaRcYfAn
Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (17:58)
#63
Help! I just found y'all and I have been on the computer off and on for two days trying to figure out where to go to "chat" with a fellow P&P addict. Can you help me? I have left messages on the BB but have not yet figured out this conference center...admitting that I am a novice but determined to get within the group....thank you all for being there..until just a few days ago I thought "what is wrong with me? I can't get enough of this P&P..then I wondered if there just might be others....God Bless all
f you out there who made me feel alot better about this addiction I have acquired...I have found other books, bios, etc....but where is an Austenite to go to discuss every detail.........Linda
~jwinsor
Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (18:06)
#64
Linda, there is a link to it in the "links" at the top of the page - the URL is:
http://www.worldrch.com/cgibin/Chat/nph-chat.cgi?chat_room=Northam
"but where is an Austenite to go to discuss every detail"
However, you will find the most detailed discussion of such things right here in these topics.
~Cheryl
Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (18:11)
#65
Linda, be sure when you get to the entry of the chat room that you select "Pemberley Drawing Room" the default is set for the Northam Room, so you must change that. We're glad you found us! You will find this place simply crawling with folks reveling in this "addiction"!
~kendall
Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (22:20)
#66
Linda: Hi, fellow southerner. We mostly just goof off in the chat room - but we do it in a very Austen-tacious way. Do drop in and find out if you like us.
I live in Oak Ridge, TN - Close enough to GA to know that the most direct way to everywhere is throught the Atlanta airport!
~Amy
Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (22:24)
#67
Glad you found us Linda. Just jump in.
~Linda409
Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (13:40)
#68
Katy, I pass right by Oak Ridge on I-40 at least once per year on my way to my hometown, Nashville.
Linda (the one who has been here since September)
~kendall
Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (17:45)
#69
Linda409 - where do you live now?
~Linda409
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (08:24)
#70
Upstate New York; 65 miles north of NYCity. We may not be making
that drive as often in the future.
At age 22, we thought nothing of jumping in the car and driving
straight through; 17-hours with 2 stops for gas.
At 44 (or thereabouts), started making a 2-day trip of it; stopping in western
Virginia.
At 50+, we are beginning to think that flight is a better choice.
Linda
~DaRcYfAn
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (09:22)
#71
I tried to link to the Pemberly chat room and when I get there....there is alot of "computer language" but no chatting...what am I doing wrong? I have gotten into that several times....get the same thing each time...HElp!
~Amy
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (09:24)
#72
I can't imagine. Kaff?
~JohanneD
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (09:31)
#73
Something else...
Been sting with the bug again : all new has become all AGAIN!
Terry, why is it doing this, what's the meaning for this? Am I doing something wrong?
~Amy
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (09:39)
#74
Johanne, it hits all of us at random. Hopefully the bug will be fixed in the new version for it is most annoying -- especially in a conference with this much traffic. I am sure it took me close to 45 minutes to load every topic again when it happened to me.
~JohanneD
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (09:42)
#75
Thanks Amy, you're giving hope after all.
~JohanneD
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (09:43)
#76
Thanks Amy, you're giving hope after all.
~mrobens
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (10:15)
#77
Johanne,
Were you doing anything unusual when this happened? Had you just added a topic or reloaded a page. . . Anything at all? Thanks.
~JohanneD
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (11:11)
#78
Actualy, just press the submit button entering a post. When the screen reappeared, it was kind of frozen at the top of the page, could not scroll down. Then, I press the reload button to view the full page and it seems to have posted my message twice at the same time. The End.
~JohanneD
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (12:34)
#79
and while rereading the posts, our BB front page has change with the addition of very cute colored buttons and no details of virtview by Cheryl. Enough to puzzle me...
~amy
Tue, Jan 7, 1997 (00:47)
#80
See the new calendar, Johanne.
~jwinsor
Tue, Jan 7, 1997 (02:20)
#81
"and while rereading the posts, our BB front page has change with the addition of very cute colored buttons and no details of virtview by Cheryl. Enough to puzzle me..."
Could this mean that "everything old is new" happened to Johanne while someone was editing the main page? That has long been a suspicion of mine, though I did not have the presence of mind to pay attention to this when I happened to me.
~Elaine
Tue, Jan 7, 1997 (10:38)
#82
I've the same problem as Linda, can't get into the Pemberly chat room, simply get something that looks like FORTRAN??? Am also having a great deal of trouble loading all the new input after a week of non-viewing...am getting cut off and told to go back to GO and start over.
~Amy
Tue, Jan 7, 1997 (10:41)
#83
] Am also having a great deal of trouble loading all the new input after a week of non-viewing...am getting cut off and told to go back to GO and start over.
__
Here, Elaine?
~terry
Tue, Jan 7, 1997 (10:43)
#84
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:07:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Spurgeon
Message-Id:
To: terry@spring.com
Subject: RealAudio help
Saw your post in the web conference about needing realAudio help.
I'll be happy to take a look, if you'd like. I installed Real Audio on my
BSDI system (at http://whyy.org).
Feel free to e-mail me or give me a call at 215-351-3315 (that's in
Philadelphia). I'll be in the office starting this afternoon at about 1PM,
Eastern time, but you can leave a message.
Ignore this message if you've already solved the problem!
Chris Spurgeon
~jwinsor
Wed, Jan 8, 1997 (08:45)
#85
1:82 - simply get something that looks like FORTRAN???
You are not, by some chance, using a non-graphical browser, and seeing the room from "backstage" decorated in full (or in some cases, only partial - hee hee) html tags?
~jwinsor
Wed, Jan 8, 1997 (08:49)
#86
"get something that looks like FORTRAN???'
Can you capture a bit of it and post it here?
~Elaine
Wed, Jan 8, 1997 (15:45)
#87
Joan, I can't capture what I see. When I copy it here and then try to submit it, I get an error message as follows: Error: Illegal HTML tag found:HTML It will not allow me to submit the information. Evidently, I am trying to copy some html tags. I will try to substitute periods for carrots and see if that is acceptable. .HTML. .HEAD. .TITLE. The British Gentlem
n's Club./TITLE. ./HEAD. .BODY background="/northam/image/pa1053.jpg". I assume that when I submit the above, the spacing will be messed up since that is another problem. Hopefully, this makes sense to someone.
~Amy
Wed, Jan 8, 1997 (16:26)
#88
Oh, you are getting the html file in text form, Elaine. What browser do you use? Does this site (Spring) give you graphics?
~Elaine
Wed, Jan 8, 1997 (18:17)
#89
I don't know what browser I use. Does Prodigy ring a bell? Sometimes I get graphics but often I get a screen with Mona Lisa saying "Image Missing". Also, I think the go back to GO messages are from Prodigy as I get them at other sites. I am admittedly a dilettante but excessively diverted by this site.
~Amy
Wed, Jan 8, 1997 (18:42)
#90
Elaine, I am sorely tempted to say "get another service." No slam to Prodigy; I used to do some work for them. But I hate to see someone enter into this addiction without an unlimited account. It could get expensive. You might resort to crime to support your habit.
You might want to check and see that you have the latest version of Prodigy's brower. Try to download the new one and Prodigy should tell you if you already have the latest, if you don't need it. Short of that, I can't think. We will ask Kaff if she knows of any problems reported by other Prodigy users. Kaffeine runs the chat rooms, it's related to us here, but on a different server.
~jwinsor
Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (01:30)
#91
Watson strikes again! (Sherlock would have thought to look at your e-mail address, and thus would have known right away that it was a
Prodigy problem!)
Kaff did respond, but she did it in the calendar topic, I think - something to the effect that Prodigy's browser is non standard? Maybe someone will find it and bring it back here before I do?
I do agree with those who advise a different ISP - last time I saw that interface in action (some time ago, I admit) it was slooooooooooow, and the combination of a slow interface with timed charges is most uneconomical even if the browser were error free!
~Elaine
Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (18:32)
#92
Yikes! A life of crime to support my addiction. It sounds serious. Tonight I can't post and barely able to load. I'm sure to be cut off shortly.
~Bernie
Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (06:34)
#93
Maybe someone can help me with this. When I have proxies switched on and try to get into the chat room, Netscape throws out the following message :
You have started to download the file "nph�chat.cgi", of the type "magnus-internal/cgi". Clock "More Info" to learn how to extend Navigator's capibilities.
I can get in with Proxies turned off but it is much slower. It also makes accessing Spring nigh on impossible.
~Amy
Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (07:25)
#94
My computer tries to download in chat sometimes when my cache is too full.
~bernie
Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (07:47)
#95
I've emptied my cache and it still does it!
~DaRcYfAn
Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (13:54)
#96
Elaine,
could it be that Prodigy is keeping us from the complete enjoyment of our addiction...I am all astonishment! I must have my P&P fellow addicts....I just may have to supply other alternatives....I mean, there's information that cannot be revealed to us! What else can we do?
~Elaine
Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (16:19)
#97
Linda, I'm going to try one of those free AOL disks that keeing coming in the mail.
~Elaine
Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (18:10)
#98
I am not able to get into the Pemberly in AOL either. However, I get a different message, "Cannot retrieve http://www.worldrch.com/cgibin....Northam"
~amy
Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (21:14)
#99
Oh dear, Elaine. We have to defer to Kaff on this. I will ask her about it.
~Amy
Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (23:07)
#100
Moved to collapse topics:
Topic 133 of 140: New calendar
Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (15:06) |
Amy (Amy)
Kaff was nice enough to modify a calendar script for our use in posting VirtView and other dates.
It is linked from the main Austen conference page here. And here is another link to it. We can use this topic to discuss films we wish to view before putting them up on the calendar.
19 new of 20 responses total.
~DaRcYfAn
Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (09:25)
#101
I have just spent 4 days trying to download the new Prodigy Internet in hopes that it would enable me to get into the live chat...last night I finally finished...went into the Pemberly Drawing Room and was told I need to download a plug-in with magnus internallcgi??????Does anyone know if this is right and if so...how do I get it?
Linda in GA.
~Amy
Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (09:47)
#102
Oh dear, Linda. You are having a time. If the Progigy browser required this plug in, Prodigy ought to provide it. Get indignant with the help staff there and tell them how long you have been futzing with trying to access this simple site with their stupid browser.
I think you can also now use Netscape or MSIE with Prodigy service. When you write to help, ask about how to do that as well.
When you finally get in, we'll have a party.
~DaRcYfAn
Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (16:07)
#103
Amy,
I will give it a try....I'll get my party hat...just hope Prodigy doesn't pop my balloon.......
~Elaine
Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (07:38)
#104
Linda, please let me know if you find a cure for the Prodigy woes. I am currently using both Prodigy and AOL but find the only difference is the error message. Do you have trouble getting into any of the topics, especially after "old is new" stikes.
~Kaffeine
Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (11:38)
#105
Okay, I have installed Prodigy and tested it out, and I have bad news.
Apparently Prodigy connects you to the internet through a proxy server. A regular internet connection (from a local ISP) would be
Your Computer ---> Remote Server ---> Your Computer
On Prodigy, the proxy server adds an interim step:
Your Computer ---> Prodigy Proxy Server ---> Remote Server ---> Prodigy Proxy Server ---> Your Computer
So anything that you try to get from a server on the internet must first pass through Prodigy's server on its way to you. Unfortunately, Prodigy's server is not set up for calling a CGI script directly. You can call up a web page with a form that uses CGI, but the chat room calls the script directly, not through a form.
When I asked Prodigy about this, all they would tell me is that Prodigy offers some nice chat rooms. Duh! (which, BTW, they do by launching an IRC program) Of course, the guy I spoke to didn't even know what a CGI script was....
I can't think of a way to get around this problem. Even if I changed it so that the first form you fill out to get into the room is actually an html document, once you are in the room, by necessity it has to call the script directly to refresh the messages.
So, unfortunately, my only recommendation right now is, unless there is content on Prodigy that you feel you would miss, you should probably get a local Internet Provider. There are tons of them, just about everywhere. Here's a link to a list of providers:
http://thelist.iworld.com/
~amy
Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (12:45)
#106
Thanks for looking into it, Kaf. At least now we know.
~Elaine
Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (13:12)
#107
Yes, many thanks. I am a recreational user of this machine and not given that much flexibilty in deciding components/software. Still, I hope to experiment with others.
~DaRcYfAn
Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (16:22)
#108
I add my thanks...Does this info include the "new" and "improved" program called Prodigy Internet (the most up to date program says Prodigy)???? I am such a novice using computers and Prodigy has been so user friendly (until now!) it may take a step forward to plunge into something else in order to get the full advantage of the group....I must muster up the courage...!!
Linda in Georgia
~elder
Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (20:03)
#109
Linda -- I fully understand your reluctance re new computer software, etc. But as many of us here have learned, we can and do conquer many of these technologies. Good luck, and hope to see you at Pemberley soon. :-)
~panache
Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (21:49)
#110
Terry, Amy, and Henry,
Could you read the posts on thread #43 from 2/3/97 and 2/4/97 if you haven't yet? Please? We would like to add the "copyright 1996, 1997" phrase to the header at the top of the thread, next to where it says "New P&P Scenes" as an explicit copyright statement regarding all the creative writings/writers represented on this conference thread. (I'm a newbie, so haven't the know-how or power to add it myself!) Thanks from all of us on #43, Cecily (panache)
~churchh
Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (22:45)
#111
Ok -- I've added it in in the only place where there seemed to be room for it -- namely, the slot where Cecily's name used to be!
As I was telling Ann, nowadys copyright is pretty much automatic, and I think you don't necessarily surrender much legal rights by not including a copyright statement (but, on the other hand, it never hurts...)
~DaRcYfAn
Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (11:52)
#112
Great News! All of those addicts who have Prodigy service who have not been able to access the Pemberely Drawing Room help is on the way! I have been working to get Microsoft Internet Explorer installed on my computer to use as my personal web browser so that I might access the chat group....after 3 weeks of calling both Prodigy and Microsoft...I found a message on my E Mail this morning informing me that in one week the new Prodigy Internet service will be switching to Microsoft Internet Explorer as th
ir primary web browser!!!! How or why it has happened I do not know...all I know is that for $19.95 it will be unlimited access and both the Prodigy Classic service and Prodigy Internet...which will be able to get into the Pemberley!!! Finally!!
~Amy
Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (12:00)
#113
All right Linda! Party time when you finally get in.
~panache
Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (08:47)
#114
Mon cher Henri,
Merci beaucoup pour votre effort. "Copyright 1996,1997" est parfait!
Cecily
~panache
Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (14:14)
#115
Amy and Henri:
Sorry to be back so soon, but upon reading some of the latest scenes at my topic #43, I believe we are beginning to "exceed the limit" for PG13 at this conference (as well as exceed the length for a topic before it is moved to austenarchives conference).
It is probable you already were planning to relocate #43 outside to another conference soon; if so, do so ASAP with my blessing (part to archives, part to --?).
Appreciatively,
Cecily
~Amy
Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (16:39)
#116
Thanks, Cecily. It is next on the list. Actually, I was trying work through whether or not Ann's new page could serve as the archive. Any thoughts on that?
~mrobens
Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (16:44)
#117
Actually, I was trying work through whether or not Ann's new page could serve as the archive. Any thoughts on that?
I like this idea. You could put the Writers' Guild in your header links. And we could start a fresh "Scenes" topic for posting of further stories and commentary.
~Amy
Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (16:53)
#118
It's the commentary -- especially the praise, since every writer needs that! -- which I don't want to lose entirely. Any ideas on that, anybody?
~panache
Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (19:24)
#119
Amy and Myretta-
I like this idea. You could put the Writers' Guild in your header links. And we could start a fresh "Scenes" topic for posting of further stories and commentary.
Option 1: Scenes without commentary reviews put into Ann's page; original topic thread (scenes with commentary/reviewa) in AustenArchives; new additipons to topic #43 only if PG13; other New Scenes conference outside for slightly "hotter" scenes (tasteful R?).
Option 2: Same as above, except all new scenes out in another New Scenes conference outside P&P2 (with a copyright and request for PG13-tasteful R content). Actually, I hate to use R as a term at all, in that it allows any writers who post to include scenes of violence, etc., if they be nonAustenites in content and style...
Option 3: Tell writers to direct us to their own webpages of scenes!
Option 4: Go watch P&P2 again and forget this prequel/sequel jazz. (I feel like a mother turtle who laid a million eggs in the sand of #43 and now they're all starting to hatch...) ;-)
~Ann
Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (21:59)
#120
I just want to add, that if something gets racier than my arbitrary taste would feel comfortable with, I will not post it to the guild. So far, nothing has crossed that line, so I can not say where that line is.
~mrobens
Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (10:17)
#121
Cecily,
You have, indeed,hatched quite a few eggs here. I'm inclined to think that starting a separate conference for "hotter" scenes might encourage "hotter" scenes. I think we do quite well, here, keeping things acceptable to the General Public. Your happy band of authors seems to have reached an agreeable temperature and is keeping it regulated. If the need arises, we could always direct the writers to drool and start a topic there. I also think that Amy has enough conferences on her h
nds at the moment.
~panache
Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (18:37)
#122
As Darcy would say, You are perfectly right. It is entirely up to Amy, this being Amyland. Whatever she decides is law to me. I was merely and halfjestingly responding to her query above for others' input.
~Amy
Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (14:23)
#123
Oh oh.
~Amy
Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (17:12)
#124
Happy Birthday, Carolyn!
~Amy
Fri, Feb 14, 1997 (22:27)
#125
I really meant for that to go in Happy Birthday.