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Topic 22 · 28 responses · archived october 2000
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~aschuth seed
Another US fetish. It's all over - at least on tv and in the press. Is it true it's not the gun, but the person? What's the NRA's arguments? What do their critics say? Does anybody actually care?
~stacey #1
lotsa people actually care. I'm not sure even one person actually knows where to start...
~KitchenManager #2
probably not...for some reason it is difficult to instill responsibility and respect in people...
~stacey #3
there has to be some intrinsic desire to want those qualities... it cannot be about imposing your beliefs on someone else but about assisting others in realizing that their is value in possessing those traits (of responsibility and respect)
~terry #4
Denver asked the NRA to not hold their convention there this week but they're going ahead with it anyway. They did concede to cut it a day meeting instead of a 3 day gun lovers orgasm.
~stacey #5
and they took down all the Charlton Heston billboards
~terry #6
The guy made some pretty assholeish statements in light of the events this week.
~stacey #7
at least he believes in them... Howard Stern just says shit to get a reaction.
~terry #8
Did you see all the anti-gun stuff Billary rolled out yestaday? They're ready to melt 'em all down. Background checks at gun shows and raising the gun totin' age from 18 to 21 were the biggies.
~aschuth #9
Who in the Spring has a gun? Or knows of a neighbour with a gun? Or any relative with a gun? Why do they have them? What do they do with them? What kind of guns are these?
~stacey #10
not me. not me. an uncle that I know of. protection I believe target practice and hide them handgun I believe
~autumn #11
Not me on any of the above. (we're pacifists, I guess!)
~KitchenManager #12
not me not me my dad has two shotguns and a small caliber rifle, and my mom has a small revolver hunting, he won one in a raffle, and because protection target practices and hides them
~aschuth #13
Protection: does the small revolver protect your mum from your dad? And has he more fire power to get even? (OK, that was below the belt, as he *DOES* go hunting, you say, and then mum needs protection against all the grizzlies around the lodge they live in, right? Sorry, but this topic is up here because I seem to have a serious problem understanding the intricacies in this affair.)
~KitchenManager #14
(such as?)
~aschuth #15
(like why somebody needs a gun for protection, and everybody else is unsafe because of that)
~KitchenManager #16
everyone else is only unsafe because of particular people's incompetence, irresponsibility, and disrepect and it's not limited to the US...school shooting in Canada yesterday, and a college gun incicent in England today...
~KitchenManager #17
was just informed that my wife owns a pistol, as well... (seems I forgot about that...)
~aschuth #18
Does she need protection in her domestic area that bad? Shooting incidents: Yes, somewhere else, bad stuff happens, too. But more in the US, as everywhere else, you don't get even halfautomatic firarms that easy.
~aschuth #19
But since it's a liberty to let just anybody get any gun, nothing will change. I think Americans perhaps prefer something people tag as freedom over lowering the count of casualties. What DO you people think?
~autumn #20
You are probably right. Many areas (including Maryland) have passed laws restricting gun sales, lengthening permit issue times, etc., but the fundamental right to bear arms is never truly called into question. Thank you, founding fathers!
~KitchenManager #21
because, as they did, we have the right and responsibility to overthrow our government when it becomes oppressive...
~autumn #22
Yeah!! A bloody coup!!
~aschuth #23
4 shot at Georgia high school Emergency personnel load an injured student into an ambulance Shooter in custody May 20, 1999 Web posted at: 9:09 a.m. EDT (1309 GMT) CONYERS, Georgia (CNN) -- At least four people were shot and wounded at a high school in suburban Atlanta Thursday, but authorities said the injuries were not life-threatening. One person, believed to be a student, is in custody. The shots were fired about 8 a.m. at Heritage High School, near Conyers, which is about 30 miles east of Atlanta. Authorities said shots were fired inside the building as the school day was beginning. Bonnie Knight, a spokeswoman for Rockdale County schools, said the person who fired the shots was taken into custody almost immediately. There was no immediate word on a motive. Police secured the high school and students were evacuated to a nearby football field. No additional details were immediately available CNN affiliate WSB-TV contributed to this report ---------------------------------------
~KitchenManager #24
There was a school shooting in South Africa this past week, as well...
~MarciaH #25
Many terrible things have happened since the last posting here. I am just reading this for the first time and something in here is making me physically ill...sorry....
~sprin5 #26
Terrible things?
~MarciaH #27
I did not know there were personal guns available to people in situations which I personally know about...I am more than a little concerned about that. (Probably only terrible to me and a few others)
~MarciaH #28
..and the Columbine continuing tragedy...!
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