Jeremy Northam (from 3-8-97)
Topic 43 · 323 responses · archived october 2000
~terry
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (06:20)
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Old messages are now in the AustenArchive conference. Here are the last 10 messages:
Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 241 of 251: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (04:49) * 5 lines
Yes, I go to Berkeley. Richmond? Ooch. Sorry.
Oh, and you should know that even non-athletic-booster-types are into rivalries. And since you are a SUCKLA student, I'm obligated to tell you to "get your own fight song (proper key, please), get your own colors, and get your own bear!!!"
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Winter, we could use this kind of depth in our Austen adaptation review topics. Why is it always sex that excites?
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 242 of 251: winter (winter) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (11:07) * 4 lines
because sex is so primal... so natural, and such an immediately gratifying stimulus in such an impersonal, fast-paced, "everyone for themselves world.'
which probably leads me to MY contribution to that "why have such a crush on jeremy northam" thread: i think i find him appealing because he immediately gives you the impression that if he cared for you, he'd care in such a way that you know he'd be hones
t and sincere about it. Even in the net, when he walks down the beach with angela, and wraps the hanky 'round her waist, you see that look in his eyes that just say, " i'm not supposed to care for you, but i hopelessly and helplessly am." now i'm trying
o be cautious with this next statement, and please, remember this is IMHO, but: I don't get that impression from Colin Firth at all. It may have to do with that string of women he has met over the years on various sets. As for JN, well, after going out wi
th someone for nine years, that's some real commitment going on.
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 243 of 251: Cassandra (cassandra) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (12:06) * 4 lines
"primal and natural-immediately gratifying": you have a keen/perceptive insight-Winter. An appropriate and thought-provoking list of adjectives.
reg the scarf around the waist touch in the Net: JN looked, at least to me, as if he were going to strangle Angela. But, maybe that's the Rebecca/Xenia in me-Kali!
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 244 of 251: Amy (Amy) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (13:49) * 2 lines
Winter, I guess you got in without my having to wipe out a second layer of your login names? Tell how you did it? Do you suspect it was your browser saving old passwords?
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 245 of 251: winter (winter) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (14:59) * 3 lines
well, i logged in the same way i always have. and as usual, i've had to get into "forgotten" to access the CF and JN drools. i've had to download ALL the messages from both JN and CF, which means having to sit for a few minutes till i get to the latest. h
ow can i access just the newest messages for these guys? the "acitivty since this week" and the "new' options in forgotten won't let me o that. downloading JN messages aren't so bad riht now, it takes about 2 minutes, but the CF ones are driving me crazy!
in other words, I still need help!
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 246 of 251: Susan (Becker) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (15:02) * 1 lines
Amy, I am still having to sign in again under a different name to get CF and JN myself. I can't even use Forgotten. If you figure out a way to help Winter that might work for me, I'd be eternally grateful.
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 247 of 251: kathleen (elder) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (17:42) * 5 lines
I don't know if this will work for you, but I had this same problem with some other topic last week. I was able to access the topic using the Fogotten option, then I reset the "Remember" button at the top of the topic.
In order to "save" it with the other topics, I changed the "forgotten" in the URL location line (under the back, home, reload, etc. buttons on my screen) to "all" and got back to the all location with the topic back in place.
Hope this might help.
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 248 of 251: winter (winter) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (19:21) * 3 lines
it worked!!! it really worked!!! thanks kathleen! after a minute of figuring out exactly which buttons were located where, i managed to get CF and JN back in the original list again. i'm just crossing my fingers and hoping that it will stick for good.
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 249 of 251: kathleen (elder) * Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (21:50) * 3 lines
winter: t worked!!! it really worked!!!
Hooray! I couldn't believe I had actually figured something out, so I'm glad to be of service. :-) (I just re-read my explanation, and I have no idea how you figured out what I meant . . . clarity needs improvement!)
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 250 of 251: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Sun, Mar 9, 1997 (22:44) * 1 lines
I love this...what other medium could offer you technical indifference and unbridled lust all in the same thread? ;)
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Topic 2 of 42 [drool]: Jeremy Northam
Response 251 of 251: Serena (Serena) * Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (00:46) * 3 lines
Winter, your narration just sold Fatal Inversion to me. Now I cannot get this off my mind.
Oooh.. and I cringe at the thought of JN as my personal ob-gyne. The heart beat quickens and the mind thinks up excuses for visits. But in reality, I'll probably bail-out in the consultation room.
~Kali
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (14:06)
#1
Relegated to the bottom of the pile...so much is our lot in life! Second-class droolers sacrificed to the larger numbers of that Firth Guy's following. It shall not be borne!
Let's see if we can catch up...I know it's the whole ant-and-rubbertree-plant syndrome, but we can dream...part of the joy is in the toil!
Oh, and in the pictures, too! ;)
~Kali
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (14:07)
#2
Relegated to the bottom of the pile...so much is our lot in life! Second-class droolers sacrificed to the larger numbers of that Firth Guy's following. It shall not be borne!
Let's see if we can catch up...I know it's the whole ant-and-rubbertree-plant syndrome, but we can dream...part of the joy is in the toil!
Oh, and in the pictures, too! ;)
~Kali
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (14:09)
#3
ARRRGGGGH!
~cassandra
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (14:17)
#4
Yes-Dearest-bring on the pics!!!
The bottom of the pile! The HORROR! The HORROR!!
~cassandra
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (14:24)
#5
Believe me this is JN related:
One of my profs asked me to read an obscure Louisa Mae Alcott book, LOng Fatal Love Chase, and review it. Little Women-this book is not!! It's, bizarre twisted! It centres on this beautiful, frustrated EW type heroine named Rosamond who is bored, bored, b
ored; she loves storms. By page 3, enter Philip Tempest, an older, suave, seductive, rich enigma-a former pupil of her grandfather. Well, the obvious happens and Philip is more Jack Devlin, than Prince charming. Ans so the chase begins. It's really weird,
but I admit I thought of Jeremy as Philip.
WEll, Shall we contact his agent? I can't believe the MAN has never been more unemployed as an actor. SHOCKING!
~winter
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (14:43)
#6
unless the "star wars" rumors are true... then he could be employed over the course of three back-to-back guaranteed blockbusters and make millions over the profits
(even more millions if he sells his likeness to toy manufactureres) think of it ladies, Jeremy Northam action figures!
~cassandra
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (16:10)
#7
Happy thoughts indeed! This board is starting to scream of money, MONEY!!! Let's get back to sex.
~Kaffeine
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (17:05)
#8
Jeremy Northam action figures!
Let's get back to sex
Would these be anatomically correct action figures? And what kind of action are we talking about? ;)
~Kaffeine
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (17:08)
#9
I had a really weird dream last night. I don't usually dream about celebrities, but I had a dream about Jeremy last night. You would think that that would be a pretty good dream, but unfortunately, this one was rather unpleasant.
I'm going to have to have a talk with my subconscious, and let it know that if its going to give me dreams about Jeremy they had darn well better be good ones!
~Carolyn
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (17:37)
#10
]I'm going to have to have a talk with my subconscious, and let it know that if its going to give me
dreams about Jeremy they had darn well better be good ones!
Try reading Cassandra's Deja Vu before bedtime, that might help.
~winter
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (20:27)
#11
hey all! if you haven't already read it, go to Kaffeine's site on JN and read Mrs. Penrose's forum post of her 'run-in" with a JN lookalike at the grocery store. If it's possible, it may have been JN himself.
It's a HEEEELARIOUS story, and she did what I would've done EXACTLY!
~Kali
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (21:25)
#12
Would these be anatomically correct action figures? And what kind of action are we talking
about? ;)
I love you, Kaf!
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Yeah, Cass...sounds like definite Northam material...Do you own a copy of the book? And if so, may I borrow it? ;)
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I went through a period of about two weeks or so last month in which I had a series of VERY pleasant Jeremy dreams. But then again, nice dreams don't always equal nice karma...and sometimes, disturbing dreams protend wonderful realities!
~cassandra
Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (22:26)
#13
Carolyn-I love you! I think Deja-vu started out as one of my dreams.
And Kali-I borrowed the book from my professor. But, I liked it so much that I ordered my own. It should be here in a few weeks, and I would be happy to lend it to you. I couldn't put it down.
~Kali
Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (04:25)
#14
Okay, we'll do a switch...I lend you Billington, you lend me Alcott...;)
~cassandra
Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (14:23)
#15
Great!!
I hope fame doesn't spoil Jeremy. I remember reading how he snuck onto the American President set during the filming of the NET. And how making one of those big Hollywood movies was such a happy surprise, a "mad kind of adventure". I'd like to have a mad
kind of adventure with him!
reg. Hollywood films..: "It was something I never really sought, but at the same time, it was like fulfilling a fantasy that I'd never imagined would
come true."
Isn't he the most articulate, adorable, endearing MAN?
~Kali
Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (15:31)
#16
I'll bet he's hooked on movies now...didn't he recently say something somewhere about never getting back to England? I remember a time when he expressed extreme displeasure at leaving his home country for California...does this constitute a change of hea
rt, and if so, is it a change for the better?
~cassandra
Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (20:40)
#17
Good question. I too remember him saying how much he disliked LA-but he's certainly not alone there! But-that is where the work is. So, I don't know if that really consitutes a change of heart, maybe a change in priorites. He's pretty cagey about his ambi
tions, although he definitely doesn't want to be another Hugh Grant. I think, though, that his heart will always be with the theatre. That's his training, where he is most comfortable. He seems to know who he is. But, I think he is hooked on movies. Its
ard not to be-the celebrity, the easy money. A lot of actors manage to do both-theatre and movies-ET is a good example. She's even done a musical. How about Jeremy in a musical? I read somewhere that he has a good voice.
~winter
Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (20:58)
#18
jeremy's current acting status has been on my mind for a while too. i agree with the lure of hollywood and the huge movie "arms" industry, as he put it once. the cosmo interview mentioned that he has had such a busy schedule-- that he hasn't been able to
get back to london, where his roots are. then it goes on to mention that once he does get back home, he was planning on selling that flat. my question is, "selling the flat in place of what?"
is it possible that he'd actually move to the states to further his career? if so, i'd vote for NYC, where he still has the convenience of theatre, if he eer felt 'homesick' for acting onstage. because to tell you the truth, theatre in l.a. (and i live in
l.a. BTW) is NOTHING compared to what's out there in new york or even chicago.
but IMHO, i'd still like to keep our jeremy 'pure' and have him remain in england.
~Kali
Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (22:18)
#19
Yeah, purity of heart, mind and career...I'm not sure that New York is an improvement on LA...lots of precocious brats there, as well...LA may be flaky, but it's not spoiled rotten.
~cassandra
Wed, Mar 12, 1997 (19:09)
#20
He walks in beauty, like the night
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
And all that's best of dark and bright
Meet in his aspect and his eyes:
Thus mellow'd to that tender light
Which heaven to gaudy day denies
One shade the more, one ray the less,
Had half impair'd the nameless grace
Which waves in every raven tress,
Or softly lightens o'er his face;
Where thoughts serenely sweet express
How pure, how dear their dwelling-place.
And on that cheek, and o'er that brow,
So soft, so calm, yet eloquent,
The smiles that win, the tints that glow,
But tell of days in goodness spent,
A mind at peace with all below,
A heat whose love is innocent!
~cassandra
Wed, Mar 12, 1997 (19:10)
#21
That should have been HEART! Freudian slip.
~cassandra
Wed, Mar 12, 1997 (19:12)
#22
He walks in beauty, like the night
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
And all that's best of dark and bright
Meet in his aspect and his eyes:
Thus mellow'd to that tender light
Which heaven to gaudy day denies
One shade the more, one ray the less,
Had half impair'd the nameless grace
Which waves in every raven tress,
Or softly lightens o'er his face;
Where thoughts serenely sweet express
How pure, how dear their dwelling-place.
And on that cheek, and o'er that brow,
So soft, so calm, yet eloquent,
The smiles that win, the tints that glow,
But tell of days in goodness spent,
A mind at peace with all below,
A heat whose love is innocent!
~cassandra
Wed, Mar 12, 1997 (19:14)
#23
I give up! At least-we are one message ahead.
~bernhard
Wed, Mar 12, 1997 (19:42)
#24
oh, Cass!
gorgeous! (heat or heart)
~Yeago
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (15:59)
#25
I can't remember where I saw it, but someone posted a pic of JN in a blue shirt. WOW HUBBA HUBBA Have been disappointed in some quotes attributed to CF, seems shallow (am I going to get beat up for this)? (I have bookmarked "The look") So thought I would
take a took over here. Loved the pics at the EMMA2 topic - best line of the movie during the archery scene Mr Knightly pouts "I want to stay here where it is cozy" lovely little cottage in the background!:-)
~Amy
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (16:58)
#26
Really, Anne? I don't know that Firth is shallow. I do suspect he is kind of a jerk.
But! He made a great Darcy. That's enough.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (18:29)
#27
I think you summed it up quite well, dearest Amy.
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Is this the picture of which you speak, Anne? I slaved over a hot scanner for all of five minutes to produce it...;)
My mom was skeptical until she saw this particular shot...now she heartily approves of my obsession...
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (18:46)
#28
oh, Kali, I was hoping you were on!
OOH BABY OOH BABY OOH BABY
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (18:47)
#29
I really appreciate the touch of "look, not a hairy beast" that this gives us, too!!!!!!!!!!!!
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (18:49)
#30
guess we know that HE doesn't live in the Wookhouse!!!
:)
~Kali
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (19:01)
#31
ROTFLOL, Cindy! Wookhouse, indeed...
Wanna hang out over at Pemberley for a bit?
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (21:17)
#32
Kal, still around?
~Kali
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (22:08)
#33
I'm back again, Cindy...we seem to be missing eachother today...
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Here's my favorite sonnet...(also the favorite of the film Marianne)
Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments; love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds
Or bends with the remover to remove.
O, no, it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks upon tempests [I do believe it is 'tempests'...] and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wand'ring bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's Fool, though rosy cheeks and lips
Within his bending sickle's compass come;
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out to the edge of doom.
If this be error, and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.
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I sent that to Cass, and she insisted that I post it! ;)
Here's another I think is particualrly fitting for lame droolers like us...
Farewell, thou art too dear for my possessing,
And like enough thou know'st thy estimate.
The charter of the worth gives thee releasing;
My bonds in thee are all determinate.
For how do I hold thee but by thy granting,
And for what riches where is my deserving?
The cause of this fair gift in me is wanting,
And so is my patent back again is swerving.
Thyself thou gav'st, thy own worth then not knowing,
Or me, to whom thou gav'st, thy own worth then not knowing,
So thy great gift, upon misprision growing,
COmes home again, on better judgement making.
Thus have I had thee as a dream doth flatter,
In sleep a king, but waking no such matter.
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (22:09)
#34
Hey, don't go yet!
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (22:12)
#35
Love the 2nd one, too
~Susan
Thu, Mar 13, 1997 (23:24)
#36
Beautiful, Kali!
~Kali
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (00:30)
#37
Glad you liked 'em! You guys still around and wanna chat?
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (00:39)
#38
Kali, come....come....
~Kali
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (00:43)
#39
Okay...
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (11:13)
#40
Looks like I missed a great chat at Pemberley! I love you guys!! We all lust from the same heart.
AND Welcome Home Cindy!!!!!
Thank you dearest. Lovely, lovely. Its a pity we can't have Pat Doyle's lush music as background. Life should be like the movies; our most intense/emotional moments heightened by his lush romanticism. That is my favorite S&S scene. And I love the second s
onnet too-"Thyself thy gav'st, thy own worth then not knowing.." Beautiful.
While me never equal Mr Firth, we can and do possess QUALITY! Quality. And WIT AND FEELING!
~Yeago
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (13:18)
#41
yes Kali that is the one! I was kinda afraid to turn on my computer today, after what I posted yesterday. I had never laid eyes on CF until P&P2, but he blew me away! Like Gable playing Rhett Butler, there is no other to play Darcy. There is a lot to l
ike about Colin Firth! JN looks very kind and natural in the pic above, rather appealing, don't you think? Maybe thats why I wanted to find out more!
~Kali
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (14:02)
#42
Feeling, yes! Wit, occasionally! (Lovely, lovely, indeed, Miss Bates!)
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Glad you liked it, Anne...
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (15:50)
#43
Anne-Indeed, JN is the kindest and best of men! He is perfectly amiable.
~Kaffeine
Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (19:54)
#44
Well, I've decided that the time has come to redesign my Northam site. I would really appreciate it if you guys would take a look at what I've done so far, and tell me what you think.
http://www.worldrch.com/northam/test.html
~Donna
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (00:04)
#45
Very nice Kaff, Very Merry UnBirthday to you.
~cassandra
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (13:33)
#46
Beautiful KAf!!! Great job!! I really like the proposal pic and the Emma quotation: "If I loved you less, I might be able to talk about it more." Sigh. I forgive Doug McGrath for leaving that one out. After all, this is the MAN who gave us: I rode through
the rain and I would ride through a lot worse, if I could just here your voice telling me....MArry me, My wonderful, Darling(no one says Darling better than Jeremy!!!!!) friend."
Anne-I loved that line too." I want to stay here where it's warm and cozy. I'd rather fetch that stick." I Loved it all!!!! Miramax is too cruel. It's probably only going to be in the video stores on the 15th.
~cassandra
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (13:37)
#47
Kali-My mom heartily approves of my Jeremy obssession too. I took her along to see Emma and she sighed and swooned with the rest of us. She likes his eyes, calls him Monsieur KNightley. I like that.
~kate
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (16:46)
#48
Kaff I tried your link and nothing was there :-(
~Kaffeine
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (16:55)
#49
Kate -
That's because I've already moved beyond the testing phase (am I quick, or what?!).
I have redesigned the site, added an interview with Jeremy to my Press page, and updated the Photo page with the Cosmo and Details images.
Please take take a look around, and let me know if anything is missing. I started by deleting all of the files, so that I wouldn't have junk that I don't need on the server. This means that I probably left out some that should belong there!
http://www.worldrch.com/northam/index.html
~Kali
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (21:25)
#50
Lovely, lovely, dearest sister Kaf...*sigh* indeed...truly the best of men...all that, a bag of chips, and Latin and Greek too...*swoon*!!!!
~Kali
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (21:26)
#51
I was wondering when you were going to add my cosmo pic...the fruit of my scanning labors! ;)
~winter
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (22:09)
#52
thanks so much for the "new look" kaff!
i agree kali! the new article has given more reasons to swoon. any man willing to study latin and greek to the A levels MUST be the best of men. and...i can picture him moving a little closer to the interviewer to make a point. such is the mannerism of so
meone honest, open, but seductively discreet. not only is he all that and a bag of chips, he's all that plus tax!
~cassandra
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (22:38)
#53
KAff-I want to wallpaper my room with that article. Tha's the Jeremy Knightley we all love: devlish, playful, funny, intelligent, confident, self-deprecating, witty and sooooooooooooo CHARMING. I have a new reason for going to journalism school!
My favorite line: he didn't "want to be one of those actors who went around London with a leather jacket and a fake tan."
~cassandra
Sat, Mar 15, 1997 (23:00)
#54
Another fav line- reg. the Net: "an abysmal smirch of big-budget buffonery.."
The man has a way with a phrase.
That woman who interviewed him is obviously in love with him. She'd fit right in here at Northamland! All of her descriptions-"conspiratorial whisper", multiple leaning forwards.....
Was it just me or could you almost hear his VOICE as you read that interview? God, I am gone, far gone!!!!!!!
~winter
Sun, Mar 16, 1997 (01:29)
#55
cassandra, honey, if YOU'RE gone, I went and never came back!
~Kali
Sun, Mar 16, 1997 (04:05)
#56
Now, now...this isn't a competition! If it were, I'm sure we'd all be losers...well, aren't we anyway? ;)
~winter
Sun, Mar 16, 1997 (10:42)
#57
hee hee hee... i plead guilty :)
~Yeago
Sun, Mar 16, 1997 (13:36)
#58
Beautiful Kathleen
~winter
Sun, Mar 16, 1997 (13:46)
#59
just curious: since we happened to get a hold of a British Premiere article on JN (though not as recent), are there a whole lot of articles we State-sider fans have missed out on? i remember borrowing a bunch of british mags from a friend a couple of year
s back, and observed how much more entertaining the mags were compared to "people" and "entertainment weekly" here. "sky" and i think, "arena" were pretty neat (there's an article re: fever pitch in this month's arena). still have yet to see a "hello" mag
zine. is it any good? anything on dearest, loveliest, "Jeremy Knightley"?
(off topic, but this reminds me of eddie murphy's joke on ron howard, observing that people would stop mr. howard and address him as "opie cunningham")
~kate
Mon, Mar 17, 1997 (11:20)
#60
I tried again Kaff - it's great.
~JohanneD
Mon, Mar 17, 1997 (12:32)
#61
What a beautiful sight/site Kaff, love the new look
~Kali
Mon, Mar 17, 1997 (21:08)
#62
Cute pun, Johanne...;)
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Cass and I were discussing last night that part of Jeremy's boyish charm lies in the fact that he reminds us of Frank Churchill. Every girl needs a bit of that kind of thing, even if she knows she doesn't want to spend the rest of her life in its presenc
e...okay, now you can throw things at us...
~cassandra
Mon, Mar 17, 1997 (23:37)
#63
Throw things at us, if you dare!!!!! Look in his eyes-he's a little devil, and that knowing, disarming smirk. He's a charmer.
But, there's obviously a lot of Mr Knightley too. Hence-the danger of this obsession!
Interestingly, Jeremy was originally considered for "another aprt" in Emma; this was obviously Frank. Kali and I were also discussing how JN would have fared as Willoughby. Another suave seducer type. Greg Wise did a good job-he fit the bill physically. B
Ut, whenever I watch S&S, I think of Jeremy and what he could have done with the part-especially if they had included the confession scene to Elinor. Any thoughts?
~Kali
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (00:22)
#64
Oh my God! The confession scene...another Rhett-Melanie sort of hormone-and-dispair fest! I hate to admit it, but he'd probably make an endearing drunk...;{
The way we talk about the man, you'd think he was schitzophrenic! Maybe he is.
~cassandra
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (13:32)
#65
"maybe he is..." Well, at least he's not boring!!! When Charles McArthur proposed to Helen Hayes, he told her that she might never be completely happy, but she would never be bored. This is also the same man who(upon offering her some peanuts) said "I wis
h they were emeralds." You know-I am still Marianne enough to fall for a line like that!!
And yes-very Rhett and Melanie!! That is one of my all-time fav GWTW scenes. Melanie is repulsed and moved at the same time. I kinda feel the same way about Willoughby. JN: DRunk and Wet too after another ride in the rain! "Marianne-looking like an angel!
" He would have made a great Willoughby!
~bernhard
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (18:11)
#66
Hi, all! Just got back this afternoon. Waiting in the mailbox: one A&E Emma tape, one Lions and Liquorice book, one A Fatal Inversion tape from Kathleen. Combine all this with Kaff's new site and a promise to Kali to read her Frank(ugh)
and Jane fan fic. Hmmmm. Wonder what I'll be doing this evening!
(Hint: Cassandra, I'll try to send you my FI review tomorrow. ;) )
~Kali
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (18:28)
#67
Hiya Cindy...have a good time?
Got your photos...may not be able to get to them for awhile...cute kitties/kiddies...
Anyone else care for some peanuts?
~bernhard
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (19:01)
#68
Kali, had a GREAT time! No broken bones - just an extreme sunburn! Whoda' thought that the UV rays would reflect off all that snow?! DUH
?peanuts?
~winter
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (19:08)
#69
cindy, you'll LOVE Fatal Inversion, as the rest of us did. Like I said on my review, watch for the scene when he goes to the hospital-- i have never seen anyone look that good in a trenchcoat and suit. also, you WON'T miss the 'huntng scene". Make you wis
h you were the prey! ;)
are you posting your review, or making it exclusive to cassandra? i wanna see your take on it. plleeeeeeeeezzzz?
~winter
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (21:29)
#70
(this was inspired from cindy's post over at the CF drool:)
she thought about CF when listening to Sting's "Englishman in New York". Well, personally, that song reminds me of dearest JN. i then thought about songs which sort of bring out my... umm...feelings for JN. i think the most 'inspirational' song for JN day
dreaming is either "Have you ever really loved a woman" (bryan adams) OR sting's 'when we dance".
how about you?
~bernhard
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (21:53)
#71
RE: Response 70 of 70: winter (winter) * Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (21:29) * 7 lines
(this was inspired from cindy's post over at the CF drool:)
she thought about CF when listening to Sting's "Englishman in New York"...
winter, I am confused!
Sorry, not me
~winter
Tue, Mar 18, 1997 (23:16)
#72
EEEK! sorry cindy! that was wendy's post that i had mistaken you for. i think i had scrolled too far up when i was looking back to see who was talking about songs and CF. all apologies..including wendy.
~Kali
Wed, Mar 19, 1997 (11:02)
#73
Oh my.
~cassandra
Wed, Mar 19, 1997 (22:11)
#74
NOthing to say but:
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
~kate
Wed, Mar 19, 1997 (22:41)
#75
Cass, are you feeling a trifle hoarse after that? ;-)
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (02:05)
#76
Hey...cut and paste is CHEATING!
~Hollis
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (16:07)
#77
You ladies are something else - I have had an enjoyable afternoon catching up on the JN drool. On another BB we discussed a Tickle-Me-Jeremy doll. I think I could make some big bucks if I could figure out a way to clone the gorgeous hunk. Would any of
you buy one? :-)
~Kaffeine
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (17:08)
#78
Okay - while I may not share the passion that others feel for Mr. Firth, I can certainly understand it. However, today I noticed a new topic that is an abomination. Mark Strong as Mr. Knightley - on a drool board?! Surely they jest!! Yes, yes, of cours
e - that must be it. It is a poor attempt at humor...for nobody could possibly contest the superiority of Jeremy Knightley!
To quote the REAL Mr. Knightley - "Badly Done!".
(whew, I feel better now...)
:)
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:33)
#79
I perfectly understand you, Kaf...Mark Strong, the man at whom everyone was laughing before the video came out. Oh well...I guess it's the whole functional feofdom thing...everyone feels that they have to create their own unique niches...to each her own.
..
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:35)
#80
Kaff, ever since dear, dear Kali scanned in that wonderful Cosmo pic, I have had to reexamine all my former notions of how I appreciate goodlooking men. While I really do like the physical impression MS gives as Knightley, I'm pretty sure that's where it
ends for me. My feelings for CF extend somewhat past the role, but are mostly Darcy-centric. However, this Jeremy creature gets my motor running, regardless of his dress, or lack thereof. I am willing to call my fascination for him "True Drool". ;-)
Please don't hold my appreciation of the color Brown against me! I would never give up my citizenship in Northamland.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:36)
#81
Ack! Strong's brown dirt sprites are jinxing my html! The JPEG is supposed to be the REAL Mr. Knightley...
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:38)
#82
Amen Queen Kaf!!! Chacun a son gout, but there is only one Mr KNightley for me:
JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY!
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:39)
#83
No offense taken, Cindy...I like and highly esteem Mr. Strong...however - he doesn't leave a trail of pixie dust in his wake as does our Tinkerbell- er, Jeremy!
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:40)
#84
AMEN
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:40)
#85
Sheesh, what is this, a UN Security Council vote? (Bullwinkle Moose voice)?
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:41)
#86
Heaven, I'm in heaven and my heart beats so that I can hardly
speaaaaaaaak...
Thank-you dearest.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:42)
#87
Or, how 'bout the Mercedes-Benz ads? Falling in Love again...
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:45)
#88
Like Marlene Dietrich? I like it!!!! We need to come up with some new ways to serenade dear JN.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:46)
#89
What'll I do when you
Are far away
And I am blue...
What'll I do...
What'll I do when I
Am wond'ring who
Is kissing you...
What'll I do...
What'll I do with just
A photograph
To tell my troubles
to...
When I'm alone
With only
Dreams of you
That won't come true...
What'll I do...
Okay, that's Irving Berlin for Cass...and Cindy, who's so hot on my Cosmo pic...;)
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:47)
#90
Kali, you are SOOOOO good!
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:48)
#91
Damn straight...
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:48)
#92
pixie-dust...
Jeremy Knightley sparkles, does he not?
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:50)
#93
yes, indeed, pixie dust
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:50)
#94
And more sonnets and poetry too!! Let try to refrain, if we can, from body disecting. Too much of that in CF and now MS. They lust over his hands!
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:52)
#95
shall we just over the man as a whole, then
:)
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:52)
#96
There's something magical about him, a heavenly force as if he were just walking as a deference to convention....
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:54)
#97
Oh, I just love looking at him.
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:54)
#98
Lets' keep going-almost at 100. Yes-Jeremy the whole man: articulate, impish, playful, witty, funny, sparkling, talented....
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:55)
#99
All thanks to my benefactor and idol!!!!
psst, that's you, Kal
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (18:59)
#100
OH KALI DEAREST!!!!!! A Thousand thanks. ANd the Cosmo pic too!!!
A beautiful song and such appropriate lyrics.
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (19:06)
#101
There's a somebody I'm longing to see
I hope that he turns out to be
Someone to watch over me
I'm a little lamb who's lost in the woods
I know I could always be good
To someone who'll watch over me
Although some think he's too handsome
To my heart, he carries the key
Won't you tell him please
To put on some speed
Follow my lead
Oh-how I NEEEEEEED
Someone to watch over meeeeeeeee
~Amy
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (19:26)
#102
] They lust over his hands!
__
You guys are so funny. Can I ask something? I was interested in what Cindy said about Jeremy drooling as opposed to Knighley drooling?
(And I am not necessarily a Mark Strong fan. Something has kept me from watching the new Emma all the way through even once.)
Objectively, now, though. First. let's concede that Jeremy's physical person surpasses the term attractive, that he is smart and articulate and all that. Also sptipulate -- just for argument sake -- that he is a wonder actor, superior to anybody we ta
lk about here. BUT, do you guys honestly, objectively think he is the definitive Knightley as Firth is the definitive Darcy?
~Kaffeine
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (20:05)
#103
Okay. Yes, I do believe that he is the definative Knightley. However, I am the first to admit that there is no possibility of my looking at it objectively. But then again, who decided that Firth is the definative Darcy? Was that entirely objective? An
d does it really matter? If you consider Firth to be the definitive Darcy and I consider Northam to be the definitive Knightley, then they are - because our opinions carry more weight with ourselves than anyone else's.
~elder
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (20:15)
#104
Conversation overheard somewhere in the Drool Conference: ;-p
"Do you prefer Emma3 to Emma2, ms elder? That is rather singular."
"Ms kathleen elder despises Emma2. She is an extreme Mark Strong fan and has no pleasure in any other actors."
"I deserve neither such praise nor such censure," cried ms. elder; "I am not an extreme Mark Strong fan, and I have pleasure in watching many men." (and also in sharing with all of my friends at the Austen & Drool Conferences)
_______________________________________________________________________
I would simply remind you all that the pleasure of watching a good actor (especially one with fine eyes) does not need to be limiting. :-)
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (20:32)
#105
Very well-put, Kathleen...
---
Amy: YES! A thousand times, YES!!! However, I do admit that others' portrayals can be enjoyable and enlightening.
Like Cindy and just about everyone else here, my admiration for Jeremy is twofold: part of me is grateful for his wonderful Mr. Knightley, and another part is entertained by the real Jeremy Northam. He's a cute little devil.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (20:33)
#106
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (20:34)
#107
They're so CUTE!
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (21:23)
#108
"Perhaps its our faults which make us so perfect for one another..." Truly a striking couple! AHHHHHH!
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (21:30)
#109
I love Doug McGrath.
~bernhard
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (21:42)
#110
It sorta' spills over to everyone around him, eh?
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:00)
#111
Again, I'm hardly an objective observer, but I do think Jeremy is the definitive Mr Knightley. MS's portrayal remained forever brotherly to me. I have already talked volumes about my admiration for his acting talent. Like Firth, he's a master at conveyin
g so much with a subtle voice change or expression as in the pianoforte scene and the ball scene. His voice is incredible, a well-tuned instrument. His reading of the crucial "whom are you going to dance with" and "brother and sister indeed we are not" wa
letter perfect. It was the way I had always imagined.
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:03)
#112
I love Dough McGrath. I second that!!! Truly a brilliant writer.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:12)
#113
Spills over, indeed...! But Jeremy DOES add his own unique magic to the lines...
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:20)
#114
NO kidding. Magic is indeed the right word. Jeremy's instincts, reactions and interpretation of the Mcgrath script are so pure and endearing! He was vulnerable; he was charming; he was perceptive; he was protective and concerned: HE WAS MR KNIGHTLEY!!!!!!
!
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:25)
#115
AWWW. No arguments here, Kittycat.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:27)
#116
We're really on a roll today, kids...shall we keep going?
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:29)
#117
I make a general point of avoiding these three words, but as always, Germy provides an exception to the rules...Isn't he CUTE???!!!
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:31)
#118
My father refers to him as "Our God, Jeremy Northam"...not quite accurate, but it does pay fitting tribute to our obsession.
~Kali
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:32)
#119
Okay, I'm going to stop now! :)
~cassandra
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (22:42)
#120
Keep going Dearest. SIGH. Double sigh. He looks sooooooo good in that vest, plus bow and arrow! Cute-is also a word I abhore, but it does suit. And yes-he is a GOD!
~Cheryl
Thu, Mar 20, 1997 (23:53)
#121
Good God! What a posting frenzy has occurred here today! When this topic forst came up and it said "44 new..." I thought Oldiznu had finally struck Drool! You ladies are absolutely mad! ;-)
~Kali
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (00:12)
#122
Yeah, crazy is a fitting term...
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (01:34)
#123
Okay, guys, the movie is over.
MMMMMM!
oh, my
oh, my
This Jeremy dosage is quite something!
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (01:36)
#124
We sure did get to see quite a lot of him quite a lot of the time!
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (01:38)
#125
And even when he was wearing clothes, he sure looked nice!
I don't think I'd want him for my GYN, though.
~Kali
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (01:59)
#126
I screamed through the whole film, Cindy...now do you understand why? ;)
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (02:17)
#127
Kali, I ermember you said something about feeling high - that's just it
Dadgum, he's something!
~Donna
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (10:13)
#128
I have read about Mansfield Park in the making. Could you beleve they ,would be smart enought to put the 3 too too Cute guys in this movie
NOW THAT WOULD BE VERY SMART,VERY SMART INDEED!
And I agree with Ms. Kathleen Elder.Re:#104
Yes Cass and Kali the archery scene is one of my favorites.
"Try not to kill my dogs, ouch Emmmma.(My JN/MrK answer) "I think she is
trying to kill me". (that cute little devilish smile). I do love his facial expression.
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (11:32)
#129
OH please, please-not Edmund. Jeremy as Edmund. UGH! My heart sinks at the thought. It is too unbelievable. HE's much too adorable, witty to be Edmund.
Donna-his expressions are enchanting. I loved the way he said "Mr Elton may talk sentimentally, but he will act rationally." ANd his "NO MORE!" I swear when I saw Emma3(especially the same scene/line)-I could only think: JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JE
REMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! I'm certain that doesn't come as a shock.
And just dedicated Cheryl. JN inspires such loyalty. There are not one and a hundred men with gentleman so plainly written across them. And the MAN CAN SNOG!
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (12:01)
#130
Cass, you definitely need to see A Fatal Inversion! It's a Jeremy overdose!
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (12:03)
#131
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (12:04)
#132
yay! It worked!
(he's my first!)
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (12:13)
#133
I've got you under my skin
I've got you deep in the heart of me
So deep in my heart that you're really apart of me
I've got you under my skin
I'd try so not to give in
I said to myself this affair will never go anywhere
But, why should I try to resist when BABY I know so well
I've got you under my skin
I'd sacrifice anything come what might
For the sake of having you near
In spite of a warning voice that comes in the night
And repeats, REPEATS in my ear
Don't you know little fool
You never can win
Use your mentality
WAKE UP TO REALITY
But each time that I do
Just the thought of you
Makes me stop before I begin
Cause I've got you under my skin
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (12:14)
#134
HMMMM, CIndy sounds like you had a delicious, delightful, de-lovely evening! Have you seen the Net?
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (12:17)
#135
I know CINDY! I KNOW!!
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (12:46)
#136
I say Let's keep going...
You're just to marvellous
Too Marvellous for words
Like Glorious, Glamorous, and that old standby AMOROUS
It's all to wonderful
I'll never find the words that say enough
Tell enough
I mean they're just not Sw-ll enough
You're much too much
And just too very, very
To ever be in Webster's dictionary
And so, I'm borrowing a love song from the birds
To Tell you that you're marvellous
Too marvellous for words
~Mari
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (13:01)
#137
Congrats, Cindy; I know just how you feel! yay! It worked! (he's my first!)
OH please, please-not Edmund. Jeremy as Edmund. UGH! My heart sinks at the thought. It is too unbelievable. HE's much too adorable, witty to be Edmund.
Cassandra, I feel this to be an excellenct challenge to Jeremy. It makes me think of Alan Rickman, because I also never thought of Col. Brandon as a man that you could lust for as well as esteem and love, until I saw AR as the Col. I think Jeremy may we
ll be up to the task of giving us a new, dare I say it, juicier, take on dear, dull Edmund.
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (14:19)
#138
Cass, I have not seen The Net. I was a little bit apprehensive on this one, since I am such a weenie, but the murder thing was more like a detective-type thing rather than "crazy-psycho-run-amok". I'm not sure my feeble heart could take The Net, though.
My husband went into the other room to catch the NCAA action, but admitted this morning that he really watched the video mostly the whole time. (Yes, he caught the full frontal, too.) (I'm grateful to him that he had the good sense to leave me alone, tho
ugh!) Don said that he fell asleep before the end, so he wants to catch it before I send the video back to Kathleen. So, maybe I'll just have to have a second viewing.
drat
;-)
~elder
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (14:47)
#139
Cindy -- rewatch it as many times as necessary for the health of your obsession and your husband's curiosity!
~bernhard
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (14:51)
#140
maybe he'll fall asleep again, if I start it from the beginning!
~Kali
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (15:21)
#141
Cass, if I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: THERE IS NO "ACROSS" IN THAT LINE!!!! ;-P
For the record: "You might not see one in a hundred with gentleman so plainly written as in Mr. Knightley." ;)
---
He fell asleep, Cindy? Well, we wouldn't want him to be TOO interested, would we? ;)
~cassandra
Fri, Mar 21, 1997 (15:42)
#142
Kali-My editor! Now you know how my mother feels. She used to be a real MOmma Rose and when I was five, she put me into this kiddy talent contest. For weks, she made me recite over and over again-I'm a little teapot(I can't believe I'm admitting this) and
practice a tea for two tap dance. The big night: I screwed up the words and made up my own steps. I've always been a stubborn wench.
And Mari-if anyone could make Edmund Bertram "juicy", it would be Jeremy. He is a great actor. Still, "there are better parts to play..."
~bernhard
Sat, Mar 22, 1997 (23:10)
#143
WHAT?!
NO Jeremy drooling today?!
Alright, then, this is for me!
me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me!
~bernhard
Sat, Mar 22, 1997 (23:11)
#144
Damn, I'm good.
~Kali
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (01:59)
#145
I love that face, Cindy...the emoticon, I mean, though Germy's Cheshire Cat mug is indeed divine.
~cassandra
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (14:41)
#146
Don't you want to kiss Jeremy Knightley's smirk away?? OOH BABY!!!
~Kali
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (15:47)
#147
I'm too sexually aggressive for just a kiss...
~bernhard
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (17:13)
#148
Hi, y'all!
I'm glad it's not all up to me today!
Kali, I'm !
~Kali
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (19:23)
#149
Like heck y'are, Cindy! ;)
~cassandra
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (19:25)
#150
I believe that the "kiss" is an underappreciated element. When done right, it is the most sexy, intimate bit of busineses. And Jeremy KNightley has got all the moves!!!!!! HE IS THE MASTER. All of that face caressing, forehead interplay, and head holding.
...A kiss really isn't just a kiss, when its Jeremy KNightley!
~cassandra
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (19:25)
#151
Is this psychic, or what??? I was homesick for Northamland!
~cassandra
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (19:38)
#152
Earth's Immortalities: Love
So, the year's done with!
(LOVE ME FOR EVER!)
All March begun with,
April's endeavour;
May-wreaths that bound me
June needs must sever;
Now snows fall round me,
Quenching June's fever-
(LOVE ME FOR EVER!)
~bernhard
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (19:43)
#153
Kali, after having seen the scene in the movie (a time or two), as well as the still photos, I can say that it was MUCH improved by removing the chick on the bed!!!!!
~Becks
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (20:52)
#154
I go away for a couple of days, and look what happens...........
~bernhard
Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (21:11)
#155
Yes, Rebecca, yesterday was too sad!
~Serena
Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (04:33)
#156
155 new postings for being away from drool for 2 weeks!!! I've been in here for the last hr and half reading up. There's a serious need for some new pics of JN, the same ones get recycled once too often, though they still looks as good.
A new Mansfield Park!! Here's hoping for Jeremy to play Henry. I can picture him, charm and all, hitting on the women.
~Kali
Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (18:36)
#157
I hate to admit it, but yeah...I can picture Jeremy as Crawford (but Crawford was supposed to be ugly and kinda short...only 5'8"!)...
---
Sorry, Serena...there aren't that many pictures out there...have you checked out everything on Kaf's page and on my spring account ( http://www.spring.com/~dxiechkn/jeremy/ )? I scan 'em whenever I find 'em...the Saks-Details photos and the Cosmo pic are
the ones I've done...
---
Cindy...people don't realize how long I slaved over that one (ten minutes, max...it's all the power of Adobe, I'm tellin' ya!)...An hour would've been worth it, don't you think? ;)
~winter
Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (19:19)
#158
you know, i just realized that i've got a photo of JN from the sept. issue of 'elle' that i haven't seen posted anywhere. it's a bit tiny, but if someone scnas it, i'm sure it can be enlarged. kaff? kali? anyone want me to mail it?
~JohanneD
Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (19:43)
#159
Right here winter
~bernhard
Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (22:00)
#160
]An hour would've been worth it, don't you think? ;)
I know I have gotten much more than an hour's worth of pleasure!
and that's just little ol' me
as for the Details photos - echh
~bernhard
Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (22:11)
#161
oh, and Kali, one more comment re: the bed pic (but I reserve the right to add more later :)
What was that?! Who lies on a bed making sure that the only thing covered is their crotch??????
~Kali
Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (04:36)
#162
...right, especially considering the fact that everything eventually gets revealed anyway, right Cindy?
Winter, you can sen me the pic to scan...I'm going to be at the lab next week for Cindy's pix anyhow...I'll e-mail you my address...
~Serena
Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (09:13)
#163
Kali, Winter and Cindy - I'll be holding my breath.
~Serena
Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (09:16)
#164
Kali, how did you figure out Crawford to be 5'8?? And what does JN stand at.. ie. his physical height.. but of course.
~Serena
Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (09:36)
#165
~Kaffeine
Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (15:25)
#166
I own a scanner and will be happy to scan anything people want. Just let me know! :)
~winter
Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (15:42)
#167
kaff-- i just mailed the elle article/picture to kali. i guess she can scan it and then you can get a hold of it for your page.
~cassandra
Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (18:18)
#168
Jeremy as Henry Crawford in Mansfield Park. I don't know. I've never been fond of any of the men in MP. I think he would make a great Henry Tilney, though!
How about this idea(YES I want to be JN's agent!): There is a book I am excessively devoted to; it is my favorite piece of Can lit-Bonheur D'occassion or the Tin Flute, by Gabrielle Roy. It has won numerous awards and the suave seducer type Jean Levesque
has Jeremy written all over it. The novel is set at the beginning of WW2 and takes place in Montreal. The main character-Florentine is poverty stricken and helps her mother out by working as a waitress in this gaudy downtown diner. Her father is one of th
se dreamer types and the mother is always struggling to find another place to live. Enter Jean Levesque-this handsome, charming, devilish enigma who is both attracted and repulsed by Florentine-the life that she represents. He's got his eye on MOnt Royal
and the good life. Well, things happen as they tend to do, and Florentine is faced with a most serious matter.....
~Kali
Thu, Mar 27, 1997 (01:43)
#169
It's in the book...don't have my copy here with me (I'm at home home this week)...one of the Bertram crew (Aunt Norris? Can't remember...) says something about is undashing appearance, and the fact that he's shorter than "5'9", probably no more than 5'8"
..."
~Jess
Fri, Apr 4, 1997 (09:13)
#170
I have been counting down the days to Emma's April 15 release when I can own my personal copy of JN in action. But on the Emma board it says that the April 15th release price is like $100. Pray tell me this is not true. My obsession can only afford the
$20 dollar range and does not like to wait. If someone knows for sure please tell me, good or bad news, I think I can handle it.
~terry
Sat, Apr 5, 1997 (07:47)
#171
Let us know when you find out ok?
~SweetB
Fri, Aug 1, 1997 (22:24)
#172
Hey! Are you guys still out there? I haven't been able to check into the Drool conference for MONTHS! And boy, have I missed all you guys. It's been so fabulous checking out all the new pics of Jeremy that have been posted on the Internet. Anyway! H
i . Any news on what Jeremy's been up to lately?
~Kali
Fri, Aug 15, 1997 (19:27)
#173
Sweet, it's good to see your name again. The main Austen board here at spring is no longer active. It's moved to its own server at www.pemberley.com. Drool originally went with it, but now Terry's graciously decided to take it back again so it can be administered more flexibly.
Hope to talk to you soon!
~terry
Sun, Aug 17, 1997 (20:29)
#174
I'm glad y'all are back, Kali, I've really missed you.
~Kali
Mon, Aug 18, 1997 (23:59)
#175
It was neat to go through all the previous messages here. We had a good time - Me, Cindy, Cass, Kaf, Sweet, everyone...
~SweetB
Tue, Aug 19, 1997 (22:08)
#176
Kali,
I FINALLY found you guys again! Yeah! I'm not sure where you live, but Jeremy was on Conan O'Brien's show last Friday. He looked TERRIFIC, but Conan was pretty rotten to him. He had a good 5 minutes and the whole interview was terribly uncomfortable. I KNOW Jeremy is funny -- I've heard him interviewed before (radio and TV), but Conan was horrendous in his attempts to talk to him. Have you seen MIMIC yet? It's getting VERY good reviews here, although they aren't mentioning our Jeremy's performance.
Sweet
~terry
Tue, Aug 19, 1997 (22:26)
#177
I haven't seen MIMIC, how does it fit in with the plethora of sci fi movies
this summer (eg. Contact)?
~SweetB
Thu, Aug 21, 1997 (22:19)
#178
Jeremy Alert --
This time he was on Jay Leno. Unfortunately, I flipped to that channel only to hear the last 2 minutes of his interview. He is VERY personable -- articulate -- in his very British way -- and of course quite sexy.
Jay complimented Jeremy on his superb American accent in MIMIC. Hmmm....anyone have personal feedback on our guy's latest movie?
~jenk
Tue, Aug 26, 1997 (19:36)
#179
Hello everyone. This whole Spring thing is new to me, so please forgive me if I violate some etiquette or other. However, Jeremy must be discussed, so here I am.
I saw Mimic on Sunday with a co-worker, who went to see Mira Sorvino. Needless to say, neither of them were naked :( There were a couple of couple scenes and, once again, Jeremy has proved himself the SnogMaster. I think I went into the movie with too many expectations and was disappointed. Did JN say anything about practicing his American? I adore Jeremy, I am so fond of the man, I can hear his lovely voice echoing in my head, but, er, I don't think the film company spent as much money on a dialect
oach as they should've.
I am sorry to cause pain to anyone, and I hope it will be of short duration.
~CK
Tue, Sep 9, 1997 (10:28)
#180
Does anyone know the status of "The Moon and the Sixpence"? Last I heard, JN was slated to be in the movie, but reports now state that he will be remaking "Gloria" with Sharon Stone and George C. Scott this fall in New York. Will "Moon" ever be made?
~KarenR
Tue, May 18, 1999 (08:27)
#181
Winter, for you:
British actor Jeremy Northam, currently starring in An Ideal Husband, is also under the Cannes spotlight.
He was left stunned after a screening of his latest film, The Winslow Bow, received wild applause from a standing-room only audience.
"I am absolutely thrilled... dumbfounded. I've never been to a show with an audience quite like this."
The Winslow Boy, which is showing out of competition, is director David Mamet's sixth film and is based on Terrence Rattigan's play.
Northam had better get used to the reception - An Ideal Husband, which also stars Cate Blanchett, Rupert Everett and Minnie Driver, will be the festival's closing night film.
~winter
Tue, May 18, 1999 (10:39)
#182
What good news!!! I'm so glad it's done well at Cannes, though I'm not surprised. I saw "The Winslow Boy" a few weeks ago, and was really impressed by the whole production. Excellent at every level!
Thanks for the blurb, Karen! Nice of you to remember that I have 2 DB's.
Looks like things are picking up for MDB. However, over the years, I've learned to be cautious. There have been way too many times when we all thought, "here's Jeremy's big break!" (Emma; Amistad; Happy, Texas). We shall see...
~KarenR
Tue, May 18, 1999 (12:06)
#183
Oh good, you saw it. Now I don't have to post it at VV. When is this blasted movie going to open here? It's only playing in NY & LA to my knowledge and I can't find it listed anything for wider release in the US. Argh!!
I like JN too, but his part in Amistad was pretty small (but probably got him this role--judge/lawyer). This one really could vault him to the top. The boy is not bad looking and sounds so much better with his British accent.
~lafn
Tue, May 18, 1999 (12:52)
#184
Winter:
Time magazine last week referred to JN's performance in the Winslow Boy as Olivier incarnate .
I can't wait to see it.
Hey, I even liked him in The Net and Mimic....(so cute with those glasses)
~winter
Tue, May 18, 1999 (21:20)
#185
For my fellow/sister JN fans...
Jeremy Northam will appear on ABC's "Politically Incorrect" (with Bill Maher) this Thursday 5/20. Check you local listings!!! The show is being taped from London all this week.
Curious to see how MODB (my other dear boy) will fare on this show. I've read past interviews, and he's a very thoughtful, insightful person (yeah yeah, we all say that re: whomever we admire). I'll actually be watching "Phantom Menace" that night, but the VCR will be good and programmed while I'm gone!
Wonder how Colin would do on Politically Incorrect...
~LauraMM
Wed, May 19, 1999 (08:05)
#186
The Winslow Boy has been playing at the Kendall Square Cinema (Fine Arts) for about a month now. I haven't seen it, but would like to. I've been a fan of David Mamet's for awhile.
~KarenR
Wed, May 19, 1999 (08:45)
#187
Thanks, Jenn for the info about Politically Incorrect. I heard about doing the show in London, but didn't know when it was being broadcast. It's on so late here (not right after Nightline, like elsewhere), but I saw the show last night.
~lafn
Wed, May 19, 1999 (14:09)
#188
Thanks Winter..it's on late here too...but I'll tape it.
Can't wait to see Winslow Boy and (don't tell Bethan) Notting Hill!!
***
Please keep us up on JN doings. I don't have time to go to all the
different websites.
**
Wonder how Colin would do on Politically Incorrect..
He'd wear out his nose!!
***
(Laura)I've been a fan of David Mamet's for awhile.
I'm seeing two of his shows in NY next week. Apparently, he feels he was snubbed by the Tony's since he had 3 shows on B'way this year and did not merit even a nom.But what sells on Westend doesn't always make it on B'way.
~Moon
Wed, May 19, 1999 (17:26)
#189
(Evelyn), He'd wear out his nose!!
ROTFLOL!!
Thanks for the info on YODB Winter!
~winter
Wed, May 19, 1999 (21:20)
#190
ACK! Perhaps Jeremy Northam is not the virtuous, intellectual actor I'd thought he'd be. Scandal is brewing on the Northamboard... (the other Northam disc. board)
It's a known fact amongst us JN admirers that he was asked out and went on a date with Debbie Matenopolous, formerly of "The View" (an American telly morning talk show). Well apparently, Debbie went on the Howard Stern radio show, and briefly talked about her date with MDB (Without revealing his i.d.--only as 'the guy from Emma').
Anyway, for some reason, they went to a strip club, she bought him a lap dance, and JN apparently dumped Debbie soon afterwards and took off with the lap dancer!
Strange...this may be a rumor, or exaggerated story, but either way, I'm not as disheartened as some might be (let's say, if this were Colin). Has Lewinskygate just hardened me? ;-)
~terry
Wed, May 19, 1999 (23:39)
#191
Jeremy Northam will be on Politically Incorrect as a guest tomorrow night,
May 20th on ABC (check your local listings).
~LauraMM
Thu, May 20, 1999 (08:04)
#192
Ah, if I was JN, I'd leave with the Lap dancer too. Debbie M is too airheaded and flighty! ;-0
~terry
Fri, May 21, 1999 (10:18)
#193
He did appear on Politically Incorrect and I taped it, I don't think he
got a word in edgewise with this program live from England last night. He
seems to be very shy.
~KarenR
Fri, May 21, 1999 (10:40)
#194
He said a few things, although the woman (Edwina Somebodyoranother) was dominating the conversation. In her defense, it was two against one, JN and the comedian guy, representing more liberal views vs. her conservative views. Surprisingly, Michael Moore tended to agree with her.
~winter
Fri, May 21, 1999 (17:33)
#195
AAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I forgot to set my VCR!!!!! I went and saw "Phantom Menace" last night and forgot to set the fu***** machine! Terry-- can you lend me the tape? Can someone? Please? Email me!
~KarenR
Wed, May 26, 1999 (11:27)
#196
Here you go, Winter, the whole thing from Liz Smith's column:
- -- -- HARVEY WEINSTEIN, the perennially high-energy movie mogul and his serenely beautiful wife, Eve, held an intimate soiree at the fabulous Hotel du Cap in Antibes last Sunday, celebrating the final night at Cannes. Miramax' sumptuous "An Ideal Husband" closed the festival.
Rupert Everett and Julianne Moore of "Ideal" were on hand, along with Elle MacPherson, still accepting compliments on her American Foundation for AIDS Research (AmFAR) auction stint, and Kate Moss, who looked healthy and great, but must be weary of being stared at every time she lifts a glass of ginger ale to her lips ("What's that she's drinking?") Ah, the pitfalls of going public with rehab!
Mr. Everett was a lot more playful, puppyish and amusing than he had been parrying with the press earlier that day. His jet lag had lifted. Jeremy Northam, the Ideal Husband himself, was not present. Was Mr. Northam's nose out of joint because Rupert received so much attention on the steps of The Palais, escorting Cate Blanchett through the paparazzi frenzy? Of course not. Northam is so good in this movie, and in others - "The Winslow Boy," for example, and the upcoming "Happy, Texas." He's no diva. He ha
an early flight back to London and was exhausted.
Harvey raised a glass to Rupert, toasting his performance and predicting an Oscar nomination for the actor. Rupert played against type, ducking his head and blushing. An even surer bet, however, for Oscar recognition is the delicious Julianne Moore, who plays the smiling, barracuda-like schemer Mrs. Cheveley, a woman of low character who almost ruins a decent man. (Miss Moore is a great chameleon. Last year she was nominated for her pathetic porn star in "Boogie Nights.") Her scenes with Everett crackle w
th sly sexual tension. One almost wishes that this dazzling villainess might end up with Rupert. Julianne, one of the earthiest, most "normal" actresses you could ever meet, was giddy with excitement over her first trip to Cannes. Her main concern was that she was "too fat" in the movie, having given birth not long before shooting began. In fact, Moore is voluptuous and overflowing her bodice, as the period demands.
Harvey Weinstein says this movie, and his studio's other lush period piece, "My Life So Far," are "films about forgiveness, which in light of our current mood, seems significant to me."
Speaking of "An Ideal Husband," on June 16, the movie premieres in New York at The Paris Theater, followed by a gala buffet at The Pierre. AmFAR benefits. Call 212-625-5104.
~winter
Wed, May 26, 1999 (20:36)
#197
THanks, Karen! You're a doll!
Was Mr. Northam's nose out of joint because Rupert received so much attention on the steps of The Palais, escorting Cate Blanchett through the paparazzi frenzy? Of course not. Northam is so good in this movie, and in others - "The Winslow Boy," for example, and the upcoming "Happy, Texas." He's no diva. He had an early flight back to London and was exhausted.
That's my boy! No diva stunts for him to pull! Glad to see him get the praise he so rightly deserves. I'm serious everyone-- go see 'The Winslow Boy' if you haven't already. It's wonderful, and I didn't mind Rebecca Pidgeon (the director's wife) all that much.
~KarenR
Wed, May 26, 1999 (23:29)
#198
We're chomping at the bit, Winter. The Winslow Boy is finally opening this Friday.
Did you ever go to see eXistenZ?
Saw preview of Three Seasons yesterday. It was OK, not great.
~KarenR
Tue, Jun 8, 1999 (08:41)
#199
Winter, cancel all your plans for Thursday!!
From USA Today:
Mel Gibson plans an outing Thursday to the L.A. premiere of a film he's not even seen in.
This would be An Ideal Husband, the Oscar Wilde opus, which is distributed by Miramax but was made by Icon Entertainment, Gibson's company.
Stars Jeremy Northam, Rupert Everett, Minnie Driver and Julianne Moore are due. The event benefits the LIFE foundation, aiding autistic children.
~Moon
Tue, Jun 8, 1999 (09:34)
#200
Dame Winter, put on your lucky shoes and go to it!
Call the Life Foundation and find out if there will be a reception too.
And if you get to talk to JN, ask him if he will play Mark Darcy (only kidding!). :-D
~KarenR
Tue, Jun 8, 1999 (09:48)
#201
Was rewatching Emma last night to pinpoint that same look he uses at the end of TWB. That little twinkle and smile are used in the "please don't shoot my dogs" line. ;-D
He would be my second choice for MD.
~winter
Tue, Jun 8, 1999 (10:21)
#202
AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!! On my way to make phone calls... Will let you know what happens. Jana2 and I are going to the Friday screening, though I doubt he'll show up for that one.
He would be my second choice for MD.
Glad you feel that way. JN is excellent with the subtleties of flirtatious glances (*sigh*). I think MD would give the same types of glances to our Bridge.
~KarenR
Tue, Jun 8, 1999 (11:03)
#203
Hey Northam could have a real legal career going: judge in Amistad, Sir Robert Morton, barrister, in TWB, and Mark Darcy, barrister, in BJD!!
Glad you feel that way. JN is excellent with the subtleties of flirtatious glances (*sigh*).
You don't I taped Emma because I admired Gwynnie's performance, did you? ;-p
~KarenR
Tue, Jun 8, 1999 (17:36)
#204
~winter
Tue, Jun 8, 1999 (19:08)
#205
Any way to replace Rebecca Pidgeon's face with mine on this photo? ;-)
~KarenR
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (08:26)
#206
Didn't he say something about not wanting to do period pieces anymore? ;-) From today's Hollywood Reporter:
Northam mixed in Ivory 'Bowl' for James tale
NEW YORK -- Jeremy Northam, a fixture in art houses this summer with "The Winslow Boy" and "An Ideal Husband," has joined the cast of Merchant Ivory's "The Golden Bowl." The actor will star with Nick Nolte, Uma Thurman, Anjelica Huston and Kate Beckinsale in the adaptation of Henry James' classic 1904 novel about wealthy expatriate Americans trying to maintain a surface of propriety despite romantic betrayals. Miramax recently picked up domestic rights to the $20 million film, which director James Ivory i
slated to begin shooting in August from a script by Ruth Prawer Jhabvala. Ismail Merchant will produce. TF1 International has foreign rights to the film, the first in a four-film deal between TF1 and Merchant Ivory. In addition to "Winslow" and "Husband," Northam has starred in "The Net," "Emma," "Gloria" and the Sundance fave "Happy, Texas." He is repped by Chris Andrews and Harriet Robinson of ICM.
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Do you ever think Colin will get a full article like this when he signs for his next movie? :-(
~LauraMM
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (08:51)
#207
Hey, I read that story! I've decided that I am decidely NOT a James fan. However, The Turn of the Screw is undoubtedly the scariest story ever.
Karen, maybe if Colin Firth was in a movie like that, he would get full article. JN is quite prolific these days, unlike CF.
~winter
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (10:01)
#208
Yes, he has expressed the desire to stay away from period pieces. But, there are also two things to consider:
1) He also said he wouldn't pass up a good role either. Hence...
2) He's repped by ICM. They have a terrible reputation for relaying bad scripts to good actors. I've expressed this several times on the Northamboard, but I think he'd be better off at William Morris, with Hilda Quealey, who is a terrific agent for Brits in the States.
Oh! How could I forget! A THIRD (though not least) reason:
3) Ruth Prawer Jhabvala, Ismail Merchant and James Ivory! (These guys are my heroes)
~KarenR
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (10:36)
#209
Lookie what I found. Miramax has added a bunch of pictures to its sites, but this is the only one with JN:
~Moon
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (11:04)
#210
He looks puffy in that picture, must have been up all night drinking. ;-)
~KarenR
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (11:19)
#211
You know what happens when they put cheesy moustaches on these guys! ;-)
~winter
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (14:03)
#212
Males have been known to "puff up" when they are in their sexual prime ;-)
~KarenR
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (14:27)
#213
I thought that was when they were 17 yrs. old? ;-p
~winter
Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (15:08)
#214
I thought that was when they were 17 yrs. old
ROTFLOL, Karen!!!
~KarenR
Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (08:16)
#215
HOW COULD OSCAR WILDE'S satirical 1895 play about a London society couple coming undone work on screen? At first, even director Parker (1995's ''Othello'') didn't know. "I'm a big fan, but it seemed so quintessentially theatrical," Parker says, "a curious mixture of melodrama and farce. Then I went to see it in London, and I was even more convinced it was a bad idea." After working for the next several months on a draft that was "50 percent Wilde's language and 50 percent mine," Parker grabbed the attenti
n of a stellar cast, including Driver and Everett, who signed on as high-society secondary characters, as well as Blanchett ("Elizabeth"), who stars as the wife. As for Northam ("The Net"), he isn't sure he was considered ideal for the husband. "I was contacted two weeks before filming started, so I think I was an afterthought," Northam says. "But it was someone offering me a job, and I was in the mood to work."
~Moon
Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (09:57)
#216
There was a small interview with JN on the IFC and I caught it(totally by chance since it was used as a filler). It was done in Cannes, what looked like from his bedroom terrace. He was unshaven and puffy(!) and was not very cohesive or literate (I hate to say it, but there it is). Could JN be a party boy(animal), at heart?
He seems to be an ideal character in need of becoming an ideal husband. ;-)
My DH watched it too and it prompted his comment(which I have heard many times); Actors are all stupid!
~terry
Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (11:43)
#217
barton:~ whois jeremynortham.com
Registrant:
Spring (JEREMYNORTHAM-DOM)
Rt 2 Box 56R
Cedar Creek, TX 78612
US
Domain Name: JEREMYNORTHAM.COM
~winter
Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (00:45)
#218
He was unshaven and puffy(!) and was not very cohesive or literate (I hate to say it, but there it is). Could JN be a party boy(animal), at heart?
Party animal, perhaps, but far, far from illiterate. He majored in English Lit. at the Univ. of London, and his father is the world's leading scholar on Ibsen.
Forgive the poor boy-- I'm imagining a scenario in which he's had a late night of interviews and public appearances forced upon him, and is rudely awakened at 6 am by a very imposing IFC camera crew. Gracious man that he is, he allows them to ask a few questions, despite the fact that he hasn't made himself descent.
Bit of gossip for any other JN fans out there-- he's just bought a 300 yr. old house in Norfolk (wherever that is).
~Moon
Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:04)
#219
OK, I forgive him. :-)
How about a trip to Norfolk Winter? I think the old boy could use a personal assistant. ;-)
~winter
Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (02:24)
#220
(Moon)I think the old boy could use a personal assistant. ;-)
You're telling me! He absolutely, definitely needs someone to get his ass up in the morning and help him look presentable to the camera crews. I'm very deft with a razor, you know! ;-) ("Mr. Northam, if you can just hold still...")
~lafn
Sat, Jun 26, 1999 (20:32)
#221
(Karen)He would be my second choice for MD.
Ditto.
Hey, I even liked him in Mimic!!With those cute eyeglasses!!
******
I saw An Ideal Husband in London (along with 6 other people in a cavernous theatre...no kidding..on a Sunday afternoon!!.)IMO he was the only redeeming faction in that movie...Borrrring! But his speech to Parliament ...full of passion...was a winner.
Plan to see The Winslow Boy next week.
~KarenR
Sat, Jun 26, 1999 (21:27)
#222
He looked his Knightly-self in the flashback scene with the Baron. But oh yeah, the speech in Parliament. Nicely done. Now lose that moustache!!
~lafn
Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (21:30)
#223
Why doesn't anyone post news of JN? Winter????
I don't go to other websites....can you pl.share some stuff with us?
~SABINE
Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (20:36)
#224
Sorry, but I have no news from JN.
I wrote to ICM and asked about his future projects, but I did not receive an answer jet. Will tell xou if I get a reply !
~SABINE
Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (20:38)
#225
Sorry, "no news OF jeremy northam " !
:-)
~KarenR
Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (23:57)
#226
Sabine!! Where have you been? ;-D
~SABINE
Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (18:06)
#227
Hi Karen !
Sorry, but I was in Brighton/England for 2 weeks.
I am also a great fan of Jeremy Northam. I have seen AIH in England and bought the "Emma" video there and ordered " The Net", "Mimic" and an "older" film with JN from CCVideo recently !
Have seen "The Net" and "Mimic" in the translated version, it was ( as always ) very bad. I just hate the german versions because the voices of CF and JN are so GREATand the german voices are so terrible .
Hope to receive the tapes soon :-)
~lafn
Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (20:31)
#228
Sabine...we've missed you . am having problems with my email...we're counting on you and Susan for January 15, 2000.
We need you on #98; we're discussing FF starting tomorrow.
~winter
Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (20:50)
#229
Haven't posted to this board as often as
1) I have no news
2) it takes forever to load all the messages on this board, and I have no idea how to keep it on my 'hot list' of topics. It appears and then disappears often.
I do know, however, (as mentioned before), that he just bought a house in Norfolk, England. He mentioned in a recent interview that he's the youngest person his his village by about 30 years! Minimizes his prospects for meeting the future Mrs. Northam. (A good sign for us?)
"Voices from a Locked Room," a movie he did ages ago but was never released, has been televised on UPN network this weekend. I caught about the last hour of it and thought it pretty descent. It's about a man with split personalities-- one as Peter Warlock a composer, the other as a music critic who happens to be said composer's worst enemy. Sounds odd, I know, but it was done well. Jeremy also plays piano in real life, so we got to see a bit of that on screen.
~KarenR
Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (23:09)
#230
Since it was hot as Hades here, dragged my 18 yr old niece to a quality movie this afternoon: The Winslow Boy! She said she wasn't interested in any special FX garbage. The Summer of Sam was sold out, so TWB it was. Grabbed her arm and made her take notice of that last scene. I love it. She said the movie was unrealistic. Never mind that it was based on a real incident!! Oh well, I tried. ;-D
Will have to look for that one Winter. UPN you say???
~lafn
Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (17:21)
#231
(Winter)Voices from a Locked Room," a movie he did ages ago but was never released, has been televised on UPN network this weekend.
Gives us hope for SLOW :-)I don't know UPN...?
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(Winter).... I have no idea how to keep it on my 'hot list' of topics. It appears and then disappears often.
I bet our knowledgeable hosts could instruct you how.
****
I missed TWB in UK...it was gone...and then I missed it here too....
I hear it was excellent...got good reviews but did poorly at the box office :-(
~SABINE
Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (17:56)
#232
Haven t heard about TWB in Germany yet. So maybe I have a chance to see it.
That s the film all about ?
~KarenR
Wed, Jul 7, 1999 (10:07)
#233
(Winter) it takes forever to load all the messages on this board, and I have no idea how to keep it on my 'hot list' of topics. It appears and then disappears often.
OK, on the main Drool page, make sure your setting is "All New" and use this url as your bookmark:
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/drool/all/new
or go directly to the new messages here (without having to load the entire topic) by using this url:
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/43/new
This should work. Let me know. You also might want to mark all the other nonactive topics on the main Drool page as "read" so they don't appear anymore, unless someone posts.
Did you make that other phone call?
~KarenR
Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (01:21)
#234
From The Independent (7/9):
AN IDEAL HUSBAND? Jeremy Northam suffers from thesp rage. He calls in to deny that he loathes Cate Blanchett: "She's got this special thing. It sounds like rabid fan mail, but she just kind of breathes in front of the camera." So you admit you said you "can't stand her"? Yes... but Pandora quoted him "out of context". OK, here's more on the context, darlings: Northam was talking to a drag queen at a post-premiere party. And when he said "Can't stand her", the drag queen said, he did so "with a devilish gr
n".
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~lafn
Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (13:02)
#235
....when he said "Can't stand her", the drag queen said, he did so "with a devilish grin
Well, Jeremy and I have something in common....I can't stand Cate Blanchette either. :-D(picture...devilish..)
~lafn
Sun, Jul 11, 1999 (16:00)
#236
Finally saw TWB....this is JN's best....yep better than Emma IMO.
He must be enormously proud of his performance in this.
Did he do any promos in the US?
~KarenR
Sun, Jul 11, 1999 (16:39)
#237
I don't think so. What movie studio promotes its four-star films? Better to let them languish and quickly disappear from the theaters. ;-D
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:16)
#238
From This is London:
Full speed on the Northam line
by Toby Rose
Jeremy Northam is apologising. Profusely. He confesses to being testy and terse when questioned about his string of girls. I only asked because they're not just any girls. Sharon Stone, Gwyneth Paltrow, Mira Sorvino and Sandra Bullock have all been leading ladies in his royal flush of Hollywood pictures. Most leading men would see this as amazing good fortune. But Northam objects to being defined in terms of his leading ladies, to being labelled as a mere on-screen walker - the movie equivalent of the man
who lifts up the prima ballerina.
'Every time I do a TV show the researcher has looked up my credits, seen these big-actress names, and it's the first question. They want to know all about the actress. I should have a line worked out for that, but really I don't see why I have to talk about it all the time,' he groans.
That is all about to change. We're on the paparazzi-infested beach at Cannes and he's splashing his feet in the surf as we talk. No celeb-mag cameras flash. No TV crews rush over. No autograph-hunter interrupts. But this year may be his last chance at sun, sea and tranquillity. Jeremy Northam is going big time.
British cinema-goers (who saw him with Sandra Bullock in The Net, with Gwyneth Paltrow in Emma, with Mira Sorvino in Mimic and with Sharon Stone in Gloria) have most recently seen him with Rupert Everett in Oscar Wilde's An Ideal Husband. Now he's in the film of another classic British play, Terence Rattigan's The Winslow Boy, directed by leading American playwright-turned-film-director David Mamet.
Next comes Happy, Texas. Also very much his film, it has been snapped up for international distribution by Miramax and is set to push Northam further into centre stage. Plus, he's just become the pin-up for Saks Fifth Avenue's new menswear campaign. In short, a CV any Hollywood hunk would die for. And, while he hasn't hopped aboard the celebrity bandwagon, he readily admits, 'This is what I've been waiting for.'
So what do his friends think of his success? 'They probably despise me,' he replies.
Such success has been coming for some time, and the 38-year-old, Cambridge-born actor wasn't necessarily expecting it. 'I could never have imagined that I would be performing opposite these icons, these movie stars. It came as a total surprise really,' he tells me. The films proved to be one smart career move after another for him, raising his ante in the industry even though none of them exactly set the box office ablaze. However, as he points out, 'I wasn't responsible in the public eye, because I'm not
Sharon or Mira or Gwyneth. But, of course, you put a lot of time and effort into doing what you do, and you want it to work, and you would rather be associated with things which are happy successes.'
His slew of forthcoming films look set for greater success. First up in British cinemas is The Winslow Boy, a costumed courtroom drama based on a real-life Edwardian episode in which a well-to-do naval cadet was accused of stealing a postal order. Northam's performance, alongside heavyweights like Sir Nigel Hawthorne, is being widely praised. He plays the accused boy's tough, but ultimately soft-hearted, defence lawyer. 'Those around him see him as a man without heart, ambitious, greedy, egotistical and o
portunistic. A fantastic role!'
In total contrast, next month's low-budget indie comedy, Happy, Texas, sees him as a con man, on the run and masquerading as a gay beauty-pageant meister. Happy, Texas wowed them at Robert Redford's Sundance Film Festival. In the back-to-front way films often get released, he actually shot it immediately before An Ideal Husband. 'I got back on the plane from LA and a day later I was in a read-through. I went from playing an escaped con man in Happy, Texas to a politician with a dodgy past.'
His own past is far from dodgy. In fact, it's a copybook British theatre background, including the scene where he left drama school early (the prestigious Bristol Old Vic) after having landed a job at a provincial rep (the= Nottingham Playhouse). He says he's still too embarrassed to reveal the play in question, but the gamble paid off - since then he's been 'resting' for only three months. In 1989, when Daniel Day-Lewis had a breakdown and left the National Theatre stage, understudy Northam was ready to
tep into his shoes as Hamlet. That same year he won the best-newcomer Olivier award for his performance in Richard Eyre's The Voysey Inheritance. 'I got into acting because I like plays,' he states.
That was the motivation earlier this year when he was back on the London stage, playing gay again in Certain Young Men. The big names were in the wings here, too, because this was at Islington's Almeida Theatre, whose highly respected boards had just been trodden by such movie megastars as Kevin Spacey, Juliette Binoche, Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes. Though, as Northam points out, 'the people who do plays who are perceived as movie stars all come from a very strong theatrical background'.
At any other time in Hollywood's history, choosing to appear in the gay drama would probably have been nixed by his agent. But, he says, 'as a straight man, playing a gay man is an exciting challenge. I really enjoyed the experience. Certain Young Men opens up the gay lifestyle to a wider audience.'
In fact, he helped to invent the fast-moving ensemble piece in the original workshops seven years ago. Though one aspect seems to have angered the hard-working thespian.
'People talk about you earning �250 a week like Nicole Kidman as if it's a badge of honour - and that makes me fed up because for most people in the business that is a good wage and that is all they get,' he says indignantly. 'What you hope for is to play the parts you want to play, to be a part of the industry that you want to be a part of. I am ambitious to be a better actor.'
He clearly means every word - but that word 'industry' betrays the fact he's accepting the inevitable. He may not have forsaken North London for the Hollywood Hills, but Jeremy Northam is on collision course with stardom. When the studios tire of bumbling Hugh Grant types and cerebral Ralph Fiennes types, 'handsome hetero' Jeremy Northam (as French Elle just called him) will be ready. He's undoubtedly on the shortlist for that ultimate Brit hero, James Bond.
Just don't mention the Bond Girls.
~Moon
Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:48)
#239
I vote for JN as the Bond. Yeah!
Did you happen to read the interview from the Telegraph? It made me LOL.
If it is true that CF shares his agent, I would consider a split.
~lafn
Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (18:13)
#240
Happy Texas is getting fabulous reviews...with JN mentioned prominently.
A far cry from Mr. Knightly.He can sure pick 'em...like you say, Moon.
All winners. I even liked Mimic with those little glasses!!
~winter
Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (20:28)
#241
(Evelyn) I even liked Mimic with those little glasses!!
Thank you! Nice to know I'm not alone in this opinion.
Have not seen Happy, Texas yet. this is how SWAMPED I am with work!
~Archer
Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (03:40)
#242
I was wondering if any of you JN fans have seen 'The Tribe'? There is a shocking scene in it, where Mr K (as I and my friend Snoopy girl refer to him as) wears a ghastly light tan v-neck jumper. Its way too tight and makes him look like a banana. There are of course plenty of other interesting Mr K scenes in this otherwise appalling show. He looks VERY good in the opening scenes because he is sporting a very stylish well cut suit. But even this cannot make up for the tan jumper in the last scene. IT
S SCARY.
~farbarb
Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (07:56)
#243
~KarenR
Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (09:16)
#244
Hi Archer
I've never heard of The Tribe so I looked it up. Apparently, it was a TV movie in the UK, so I don't think it's ever been shown in the US. Sounds fairly atrocious from the comments at the IMDb, such as:
"Normally I'd regard the critical mindset that a film is crap, but at least actress XYZ gets naked in it, as prehistoric, sexist bilge. But, for this one, I'll make an exception. Talented people (Eve, Costigan, Richardson) ambling about like zombies for two wasted hours. The BBC sat on this for about two years, then marketed it in a cold, calculating manner with tantalizing shots of Ms Friel about to disrobe. And disrobe she does. Pert, firm, frisky, if a little skinny for my tastes. Sorry, but if the scr
pt and/or direction was any better, we might not have had to go down this alley... Was Jeremy Northam actually PAID for his performance?"
~KarenR
Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (09:18)
#245
And Barbara, if you're trying to post a response and are using Internet Explorer, you need to submit it twice. Helps to copy your text and then paste it in again. Netscape works much better here at Spring. ;-D
~LucyD
Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (07:14)
#246
Hi everyone,
I'd just like to add a couple of comments to my friend Archer's about The Tribe. She loaned me her video of it the other day and after watching it I came to the realisation that its only redeeming feature is the fact that JN is in it. And he also manages to lose his shirt on several occasions! But as Archer said, some of the clothes he wears are absolutely shocking - particularly the skin tight V neck tan sweater - if only we had a picture for you all to see. However, at least he has redeemed himself
or The Tribe by making Emma, The Winslow Boy and An Ideal Husband!
I also read earlier that some of you were commenting on JN's moustache in An Ideal Husband. Well on one of the JN sites - http://www.jeremynortham.ndirect.co.uk/ (I am not too sure how the HTML works on this messageboard) in the Photographs section under the heading Various Stills, you will see our wonderful JN in 4 pictures from the Golden Bowl with a BEARD no less!!
~ArcherBow
Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (20:08)
#247
Dear all
This is my second attempt to post something - the first didn't work, so I had to go and re think it all again. So hopefully the first post won't pop up somewhere.
Yes, as pointed out by Snoopy Girl, The Tribe does indeed feature a lot of Mr K in what could only be described as �intimate relations�...so it is worth watching for this! Although the character that he plays is so far removed from his others (Emma, Ideal Hubby and Winslow) that you may not think it could be him! SG and myself have discussed some of the possible reasons for why he might have digressed and participated in such a show:
1) He lost his brain. Perhaps he left it on a bus, or maybe it fell out while he was playing archery or composing riddles
2) He was blackmailed. Although after seeing it, I think it would be more likely that he would blackmailed after doing it (ie he is going for a part in a big movie and a Mrs "Cheesely" type character pulls him aside and whispers to him "I know that you did that Tribe movie Mr K, and I have a tape.....so you must co-operate with me and do I as say......or I could make things very unpleasant for you")
3) He wanted to build on his skill level. No more Mr Charming-Handsome-Slightly Flawed -but Always Noble type characters for me - NO! I want to know what its like to play a Mr Weak-Willed- Two-timing-Low-life with no redeeming features whatsoever. Actually, that�s not quite true. Even when he was trying to be dastardly, the noble streak still came through, although it was hard to stomach when one considered what his character was doing.
For those of you who haven�t seen The Tribe...I will briefly fill you in. JN plays a character called Jamie. Jamie works for a property developer who is also a complete bastard. The property developer has recently purchased a building that is legally occupied by a semi-cult who dress in black and sell high-tec electronic gear to people on the street. Although Jamie is in a relationship (with a girlfriend/wife - its not made clear) and is very prudish and proper to begin with, he soon gets seduced by t
e Tribe. Then before you know it, he is missing business meetings, eating bugs, having an AIDS test (I kid you not, its a very 90�s show), having sex with a man and a woman at the one time, having sex in a linen closest, slinking around with ruffled hair and untucked clothes....etc. Through all of this he decides that he is in �love� with the female lead of the semi-cult and so leaves his girlfriend/wife (although it isn�t clear how he does this, the woman just seems to disappear from his flat) for this
cult woman. But (like the show itself) its doomed love. Basically, this is a male fantasy movie. Man can go out and have sex with people he hardly knows and somehow justify it to himself, because its work related. Not at all like his lovely female fantasy characters - Mr K being the most outstanding of them of course. So if you want to see Mr K with his kit off then I suggest you find a copy - but I warn you that the rest of the show is bad that you may end up laughing all the way through it. But i
you are terribly attached to him as Mr K, then it might be a bit of a risk to see it! :)
~KarenR
Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (21:06)
#248
LOL!! Archer. Your reasoning is beyond reproach. Every actor has been in movies that he/she wishes would quietly disappear off the face of the earth. Will have to keep my eyes open for this one...although I doubt it's around in the US. Besides, would I pay to see it? (another issue)
Love to see all you new people posting here.
If you're having problems posting, it is likely Internet Explorer. If you don't have Netscape (which works better here), then Control-C your text, hit submit, watch it disappear into nothing, then paste it down again and submit. I've been told this method works. ;-0
~ArcherBow
Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (21:59)
#249
Hey Karen
Thanks for the tip re Explorer - I have access to both, so I will now stick with Netscape. I think the problem was that I lost my interent connection in the middle of writing, so that may have contributed to my troubles.
I live in Australia, and I saw the Tribe on a cable channel. Well to be honest, I caught a preview of the film (it was only made for tv I think) and then plotted to tape it. It was on at some really weird times, like 5 o'clock in the morning - obviously because it was so bad. So I don't know what the tv is like in the States - it might be one of those shows that will just appear sometime - and you will catch a glimpse and go - ah, so there's the dreadful one.
After seeing Tribe and seeing Ideal Hub again last night, I am of the conviction that its all in the man's eyes. I don't think it matters what the hell his character is doing, whether he's sporting facial hair, a bad haircut or a v-neck tan jumer (god I wish I had still shot of that!) - he manages to get away with it all by making his eyes go all 'milky' and 'shiny' and he does his "I adore you" gaze to his female lead and 'ka-boom' - he's redeemed himself. Of course, that was the other problem with Tri
e, it was tv, so his eyes didn't sparkle as they do on the big screen in the movies.
Now I must drag myself away from your lovely chat group. Snoopy Girl introduced me to this forum a few days ago - and I think I have got carried away - so I really must get back to writing my thesis - otherwise I will be in big trouble!!! :)
~KarenR
Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (23:44)
#250
Has The Winslow Boy made it to your shores yet? If you think JN is something in AIH, you ain't seen nothing yet!! The final scene, the last line and his little smile...hon, it ranks right up there with Clark Gable at the foot of the stairs at Twelve Oaks in GWTW looking up at Scarlett. Major goosebumps.
~ArcherBow
Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (03:29)
#251
Hey Karen
I am taking a break from the books...
Yes the Winslow Boy has made it to Oz - and yes, the last scene was very tantalising.....Wonderful character he played. Although I really enjoyed the story (so I shouldn't admit to this), but it took AGES before he appeared in the movie - like his character didn't come up for a while. But it was worth the wait. So stern, so sincere, so steely, so serious and with all that emotion bubbling silently beneath.....
The only one that hasn't made it here yet is Happy Texas. SG and myself are waiting patiently for it, but SG doesn't believe it will be here until Jan/Feb next year I think.
Is that one out in the States and if so, is it good?
~LucyD
Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (07:30)
#252
Oooh yes, The Winslow Boy - that was a great JN film. The only problem I have with it (like Archer) is that JN doesn't come in until about halfway, but when he does, he is fantastic, so it's definitely worth the wait. I certainly agree with you Karen about that last scene when he looks at what's-her-name - is it Katherine? - it's absolutely wonderful!! Don't you wish you could take a screen capture of it and insert your own face in place of Katherine's?
Please fill us poor Aussies in on Happy, Texas - I discovered the internet site for it the other day and it looks really good - at least the couple of photos I saw of JN in it - he looked good!!
~KarenR
Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (09:02)
#253
Happy, Texas is a cute film. JN looks v. good once he gets out of the orange prison jumpsuit (no one looks good in orange), although he looks incredibly thin; his jeans are v. baggy. On to more substantive comments...
In this comedy, the out and out hilarious bits are done by the other guy, Steve Zahn, who is a real wacko. As you might have heard, the two play prison escapees who assume the roles of beauty contest consultants for a little girls pageant and who are gay. Under the guise of doing the pageant consulting, JN tells SZ that he's planning a bank robbery, but really he's interested in the woman bank president. He becomes her friend (as in girlfriend), hearing all about her love life, etc.
William H. Macy, the town's sheriff, is interested in Northam and there is one scene that I would've given anything to watch being filmed. The two go out on a date and they dance. They look like they're having a riot, whirling around. ;-D
Anyway, it's a story of mistaken identities and what happens when their real identities surface. Downside: absolutely NO love scenes for JN if you catch my drift.
I read that Happy, Texas opens in Britain in December. BTW, it was a low-budget independent film that scored well at the Sundance festival, so doing it was a risk for JN.
~Moon
Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (16:40)
#254
AIH is back on Miami Beach! I wonder what the deal is on the re-release?
~KarenR
Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (19:10)
#255
It's here too! I can't believe it. The video will be out in December or January (can't remember which). These guys are trying to squeeze every last dime out of it.
~KarenR
Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (19:11)
#256
And--more importantly--remind people of who was in the film. Remember, Harvey was going around boasting early in the summer about how many acting noms this was going to take!
~Moon
Sun, Nov 28, 1999 (09:51)
#257
Good point! But, do you think it will get nominations?
~KarenR
Sun, Nov 28, 1999 (09:55)
#258
But, do you think it will get nominations?
No
~KarenR
Sun, Nov 28, 1999 (09:56)
#259
...maybe Julianne Moore in a supporting role
~lafn
Sun, Nov 28, 1999 (11:56)
#260
(Karen)maybe Julianne Moore in a supporting role
Agree....But RE has gotten a nomination from the European Film Academy.
The European Film Awards will be announced on December 4th.
I hope JN gets a nomination for The Winslow Boy.Probably not...it did not get a good reception at the box office...although stellar reviews.
~KarenR
Sun, Nov 28, 1999 (12:43)
#261
(Evelyn) But RE has gotten a nomination from the European Film Academy.
So? Does anyone in H-wood even know there is a "European Film Academy"? ;-D Sorry, but RE's role was way too lightweight to merit any consideration IMNSHO. Best Actor is usually the hardest category mainly because there are so many good roles for men. For women, it is easier to standout...the field has far fewer potential candidates.
~KarenR
Mon, May 15, 2000 (09:02)
#262
Not so hot review of The Golden Bowl at Variety, talks about "miscast leads":
By EMANUEL LEVY, 5/15/00
A Miramax release (U.S.) of a Merchant Ivory Prods./TF1 Intl. presentation in association with Miramax Films. (International sales: TF1 Intl., Paris.) Produced by Ismail Merchant. Executive producers, Paul Bradley, Richard Hawley. Directed by James Ivory. Screenplay, Ruth Prawer Jhabvala, based on the novel by Henry James.
Charlotte Stant - Uma Thurman
Prince Amerigo - Jeremy Northam
Maggie Verver - Kate Beckinsale
Adam Verver - Nick Nolte
Fanny - Anjelica Huston
Bob Assingham - James Fox
Lady Castledan - Madeleine Potter
Jarvis - Peter Eyre
Vastly uneven, with some wonderful period touches but also more than a few tedious moments, "The Golden Bowl" is Ismail Merchant and James Ivory's third screen adaptation of a Henry James novel, following "The Europeans" (1979) and "The Bostonians" (1984). Like those efforts, new film is tasteful, diffident and decorous, and like them it suffers from lack of subtlety and miscasting, here in the case of leads Uma Thurman and Jeremy Northam, playing lovers whose adulterous affair entangles their lives in a complex, fateful web. Miramax faces an uphill battle Stateside in marketing a deliberately paced literary film that takes too long to build narrative momentum and explore its central dramatic conflicts.
Over the last five years, James' work has enjoyed a resurgence in American cinema, with new textual readings in the daring but not entirely successful efforts of Agnieszka Holland ("Washington Square") and Jane Campion ("The Portrait of a Lady"). Iain Softley's "The Wings of the Dove" (released by Miramax in 1997), which deviated substantially from James but was true to its sophisticated, ambiguous spirit, was anchored by a terrific performance from Helena Bonham Carter, a Merchant Ivory vet who would have been much more effective than Thurman as "Golden Bowl's" protagonist.
The first reel is particularly weak and diffuse: It takes the filmmakers a good half-hour to establish the historical milieu and dramatis personae, jumping around from 1903 to 1909 and moving back and forth between England and Italy.
Story proper centers on Amerigo (Northam), the descendant of an illustrious but bankrupt line of Roman princes, about to marry Maggie (Kate Beckinsale), the loving daughter of America's first billionaire, Adam Verver (Nick Nolte), a retired tycoon who lives in Europe and who hopes to transfer his invaluable collection of art to a major American museum.
Before his engagement, Amerigo had a passionate affair with Charlotte (Thurman), an American school friend of Maggie's who grew up in Europe. Too poor to marry, the couple parted, but Charlotte is still in love with Amerigo and hopes to rekindle their flame. Her reappearance just days before his wedding triggers a series of events that ultimately will damage two marriages and send four lives spiraling out of control.
In a crucial scene set in a store, Charlotte and Amerigo discuss which present she should buy for Maggie � and then which presents they themselves should exchange. They set their eyes on an ancient golden bowl that store owner Jarvis (Peter Eyre) insists is flawless. When Charlotte is indecisive, Jarvis promises to keep the bowl for them, unaware of the symbolic importance and practical value the piece will later assume.
When Charlotte announces her plan to marry widower Adam, it sounds like a good idea to everyone, particularly Maggie, who has been concerned about her father's loneliness. Scripter Ruth Prawer Jhabvala devotes the second, more involving half of the narrative to exploring how the four protags handle the secrets and lies that dominate their lives. A further complicating factor is Aunt Fanny (Anjelica Huston), who knows about the illicit romance but is trying to protect the innocent Maggie from being hurt.
In his last completed novel, James showed in a masterful, ironic manner the facades and masquerades of the central characters, their power games in the name of love as well as survival. Unfortunately, James' deft portrait of human frailty and his experimentation in narrative mode only intermittently find vivid expression in the work of Ivory and screenwriter Prawer Jhabvala. Everything in the film, particularly in the last reel, is spelled out in an explicit, literal manner.
With the help of lenser Tony Pierce Roberts, Ivory lovingly details the settings in which the psychodrama unfolds, with lavish re-creations of costume balls, demonstrations of Adam's architectural designs and inventive glimpses of the industrial revolution in America. But impressive and sumptuous as these reconstructions are, they serve to further weaken the storytelling, making the draggy pacing even more damaging to the central action.
Film's most disappointing aspect is the work by the two leads. Thurman is effective at conveying modernist cool, but she is not particularly adept in period pieces. Burdened with an unconvincing Italian accent, Northam lacks authority in portraying the conflicting emotions of a man who loves his wife but is passionately involved with another woman.
Beckinsale, as the initially naive wife who eventually plays her own games, and Huston, as the nosy yet sensitive Fanny, acquit themselves better, but it's Nolte who provides the pic's most resonant performance.
Production values, particularly Andrew Sanders' design and John Bright's costumes, are exquisite, but they decorate a film that's too slow and only sporadically involving.
Reviewed at Cannes Film Festival (competing), May 14, 2000. Running time: 134 MIN.
~KarenR
Mon, May 15, 2000 (09:10)
#263
Mmmmm
~LauraMM
Mon, May 15, 2000 (09:12)
#264
Mmmm... Is right, where's Ethan??? They look chummy! :)
~KarenR
Mon, May 15, 2000 (09:22)
#265
Who cares "where's Ethan" He doesn't look anything like JN! ;-D
~LauraMM
Mon, May 15, 2000 (10:40)
#266
yeah, which is why Ethan should be there!!! :)
~Moon
Mon, May 15, 2000 (11:08)
#267
JN can pass for an Italian. Why is he such a misscast?
I saw the previews and was not impressed. I will see period pieces every chance I get, so I am happy they made it.
~KarenR
Mon, May 15, 2000 (11:15)
#268
(Moon) JN can pass for an Italian. Why is he such a misscast?
"Burdened with an unconvincing Italian accent, Northam lacks authority in portraying the conflicting emotions of a man who loves his wife but is passionately involved with another woman."
~Moon
Mon, May 15, 2000 (11:43)
#269
The classic British stereotype.
Upper class Italians with British nannies would speak English with a British accent. Why would he even have to attempt an Italian accent? This is another detailed missed.
~mari
Mon, May 15, 2000 (12:55)
#270
Good golly! Now *that* is a droolable man! Thanks, Karen.
I don't care how bad it is, I'll be there when they open the doors for this one.:-)
~lafn
Mon, May 15, 2000 (13:29)
#271
I don't care how bad it is, I'll be there when they open the doors for this one.:-)
So will I...though I can't stand Uma Thurmond or Nick Notlte.
Why didn't they cast Helena BC? She's the Merchant & Ivory muse.
Like Moon, I go to any costume-drama/ period piece...then I sit there and try to picture Colin in the lead role....*sigh*
~KarenR
Mon, May 15, 2000 (14:41)
#272
(Evelyn) Why didn't they cast Helena BC? She's the Merchant & Ivory muse
Seems that she wants to get as far away as possible from that image.
But, I'll be there as well. Who could resist Mr. Northam? ;-)
~lafn
Mon, May 15, 2000 (15:09)
#273
Seems that she wants to get as far away as possible from that image.
Jennifer would have done it..."Bring on the Bonnets", she says.
But I bet they wanted an American actress to keep it out of the art houses...
~KarenR
Mon, May 15, 2000 (16:35)
#274
It will be in the art houses nevertheless. It is Henry James. Say no more. ;-)
~LauraMM
Mon, May 15, 2000 (17:59)
#275
I really don't like Henry James (Portrait of a Lady was horrible!) Washington Square had Ben Chaplin as its only savior. Yep, don't like Henry James (or the American Authoress, jeez, what IS her name????? UGH, I feel like I can't remember anything of late!!!!) Well you know who I'm talking of. Wings of a Dove was okay.
Definitely like Oscar Wilde MUCH better;)
~CherylB
Mon, May 15, 2000 (18:58)
#276
Edith Wharton, perhaps is the disliked American authoress? She was a friend and contemporary of James. One of her best known novels is "The Age of Innocence".
~amw
Tue, May 16, 2000 (05:17)
#277
I'm sorry but JN does nothing for me, he's okay but that's it, I'm like Evelyn, I keep visualizing Colin in anything he does. I think also that all I think of is Mr. Darcy versus Mr Knightly and the Greg Wise character (forget his name) and Mr. Darcy wins hands down, Mr. Darcy has spoilt me. I know they are actors but CF rules for me, CF and no one else!(just wish he could get a really good role, one day!!)
~LauraMM
Tue, May 16, 2000 (06:51)
#278
THat's it, Edith Wharton. HATED AGE OF INNOCENCE!! Hated movie as well. Total miscast.
Definitely prefer the British equivalents. (which the Americans tried pathetically to copy!)
~KarenR
Mon, Jul 24, 2000 (20:49)
#279
From The Telegraph's Peterborough column on 7/25:
Bowled over
PARASOL and picnic-basket fanatics are waiting with baited breath for Merchant and Ivory's latest epic, an adaptation of Henry James's novel, The Golden Bowl, to come out in October. They shouldn't get too misty-eyed: horror stories from the set reveal that the film's hero and heroine - played by Jeremy Northam and Kate Beckinsale - found little love off set.
"It all started when Kate decided to drop a line from the text," says a film technician. "Jeremy started shouting at her, complaining that she'd ruined his performance. He was so furious that he followed Kate to her caravan and started screaming abuse."
This proved too much for Kate's husband, who hit his wife's tormentor. Northam is said to have run away with his tail between his legs.
~~~~~~~~~
Oh nooooooooooo!! Lapdancing I can believe, but this? ;-o
~winter
Tue, Jul 25, 2000 (17:13)
#280
No... this can't be... sounds so unlike him....
~KarenR
Wed, Oct 4, 2000 (13:07)
#281
This might blow your theory, Moon...or not??? From today's Daily Mail, Nigel Dempster's column:
Seeing double...
Her former fancy Salman Rushdie may have fled for New York and a younger model but veteran catwalk queen Marie Helvin still knows how to find an appreciative audience. Wearing the skimpiest of frocks Marie, 45, stole the show at a Dorchester Club party at the weekend--and by her side was award-winning actor Jeremy Northam.
"Marie's dress was pretty minimal, so it's a mystery how Jeremy could concentrate," says a fellow party-goer.
"They were in conversation at the back of the room when two girls tried to separate them. But Jeremy returned to Marie like a yo-yo." Earlier, Jeremy, 38, who has partnered Gwyneth Paltrow and Sharon Stone on-screen told friends he was looking for a new girlfriend following his split from supermodel Lisa Butcher, famous for her 15-week marriage to chef Marco Pierre White."
~Moon
Wed, Oct 4, 2000 (15:49)
#282
This might blow your theory, Moon...or not???
As Popeye says, "well blow me down!" ;-)
~KarenR
Wed, Oct 4, 2000 (17:08)
#283
Yeah, but now I've been reading that this Marie Helvin has been called a party girl. May be absolutely nothing here other than the obvious. ;-D
~sprin5
Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (08:07)
#284
I saw Northam in a different kind of role the other night. He was a mob boss in a movie with Sharon Stone on the run with a little boy the mob was after because he had their disk. Forget the title. I didn't realize it was Northam till they flashed the credits at the end.
~KarenR
Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (13:37)
#285
Check out this review of The Golden Bowl at Sight & Sound:
And yet despite the sophistication of its spectacle, The Golden Bowl fails to be fully satisfying. The story drags at several points, notably in the initial exposition and then towards the end.
Maybe they should've listened to Harvey? ;-D (can't believe I'm saying that!
Performances are a mixture of the wonderful and the weak...Uma Thurman and Nick Nolte are typically brilliant...The problem is Jeremy Northam, underwhelming as the aristocratic Latin lover with a dodgy Italian accent. Surely, you're left thinking, Italy has actors as well as palazzi. Northam's weak performance unbalances the film as it becomes increasingly difficult to see why he should be the object of such passions.
Phew!! Even Colin hasn't fared that poorly, as I recall, although this does harken back to some passionless RF performances... ;-D
http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/2000_11/goldenbowl.html
~Moon
Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (16:46)
#286
I just rented that JN video. The film is called The Misadventures of Margaret. I plan to see it this week.
I saw the previews of TGB a long time ago. Was not impressed. I will go see it anyway.
~lafn
Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (17:11)
#287
(moon) I will go see it anyway.
I will too....I read where it's Merchant- Ivory's most opulent....
and somebody's got to support costume dramas!(But I wish they'd get off the Henry James kick...)
~winter
Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (19:25)
#288
No-- the Sharon Stone-mob-boss movie is called "Gloria," a remake of an early 80's flick with Gena Rowlands. It's a terrible movie, but I had to see it for JN's sake.
Moon-- I saw Misadevntures of Margaret, which i thought was brilliant till about 3/4 of it through. It's got Parker Posey, whom I love, and though the storyline takes a weird turn somewhere in the middle, it's an OK film.
I'll see GB too, just because I'm a big Ruth Prawer Jhabvala fan... She's really the machine that makes Merchany Ivory work (adaptation/screenwriter). Too bad they don't put her name in the company as well.
~Moon
Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (12:04)
#289
(Winter), No-- the Sharon Stone-mob-boss movie is called "Gloria," a remake of an early 80's flick with Gena Rowlands. It's a terrible movie, but I had to see it for JN's sake.
I could not believe that they would do a remake. I do not think I could sit through it with or without JN.
Moon-- I saw Misadevntures of Margaret, which i thought was brilliant till about 3/4 of it through. It's got Parker Posey, whom I love, and though the storyline takes a weird turn somewhere in the middle, it's an OK film.
I just saw it last night and was going to post my mistake. It is an OK film with some attempts at good dialog. It also stars Elizabeth McGovern (very blond), and Brooke Shields. Parker Posey got on my nerves and in the end it falls apart. The big question is why would she be inventing or wanting to have an affair when she is lucky to be married to JN, who is a great guy in the film? It was a good idea that had good comedic potential but was never realized.
~winter
Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (19:49)
#290
It was a good idea that had good comedic potential but was never realized.
Exactly. I agree. It could've been a 90's version of a screwball comedy, with a little racier material... but it just sort of flopped somwehere between that ridiculous trip to the French convent, and when she gets involved with that dentist.
~terry
Sat, Nov 4, 2000 (12:22)
#291
There was a pretty good flick on sat tv last night with Jeremy Northam about a couple of escaped cons who land up in "Happy Texas" running a child beauty pageant. It was fun to watch. Anyone seen it?
~Moon
Sat, Nov 4, 2000 (13:56)
#292
"Happy Texas" is one I still plan to rent. A gay JN is not my first pick at the video store. ;-)
(Winter), It could've been a 90's version of a screwball comedy, with a little racier material...
Why must we be the ones to see this? It really could have been brilliant.
~lafn
Sat, Nov 4, 2000 (14:04)
#293
(Moon)A gay JN is not my first pick at the video store. ;-)
It's funny....They really aren't gay guys...have to masquerade as such to pass off as being beauty contest consultants.
~KarenR
Sat, Nov 4, 2000 (16:13)
#294
Don't worry, Moon, nothing that will make you cringe. Steve Zahn does all the flamboyant stuff. But I have to admit that the scene of JN dancing with William Macy is a classic. What I would've given to have seen that filmed. Looked like they were having a great time. :-)
~Jana2
Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (20:10)
#295
(Karen) But I have to admit that the scene of JN dancing with William Macy is a classic.
I agree - this scene was hilarious. I just saw HT on cable a couple of weeks ago for the first time and really enjoyed it. Even the DH liked it and he usually rebels at anything with a gay storyline. (Just realized as I was proofing this that I had first typed this as "a gas storyline". Hmmm, I guess the DH doesn't like those either. ;-)) Anyway, you should rent Happy, Texas Moon. It's just a light hearted little romp, but lots of fun. There are actually some hetero kind of romantic parts with JN, although they are more of the longing looks variety. He's really attracted to a cute girl in Happy but can't act on it because he's pretending to be gay.
~Moon
Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (20:34)
#296
I plan to rent it this weekend. Thanks, Jana!
~KarenR
Fri, Nov 24, 2000 (11:32)
#297
Having just seen the Misadventures of Margaret (a Blockbuster straight to vid presentation)...argh! The movie was absolutely pathetic and only one thing was worth viewing: JN! My oh my, did he look fabulous. Best ever IMO. I find I can barely tolerate Parker Posey in a supporting role and, in this, she is the lead. Does she have only one setting: neurotic? And this woman was dubbed the
Queen of Indies?
From what I've heard, Blockbuster had JN's nude scenes cut. But they left in the topless Posey, which is enough to make you want to run from the room screaming! Have you ever seen anything more horrifying in your life?
~winter
Fri, Nov 24, 2000 (12:06)
#298
I agree... MofM was a nightmare. I read the novella it was based on (Rameau's Niece) and it was great... which made me think the film was going to be at least coherent!
JN looked delectable....mmm... if no one ever understood my drooling before, the MofM explains it all. He also has this certain way of getting *right* under your skin when he his voice just lowers a register.
~KarenR
Fri, Nov 24, 2000 (12:34)
#299
He certainly has a way with lines:
She: You're aging.
He: You're helping.
Agree with you, Winter, about the voice. Mmmmmmmm And then there's the nicely trimmed stubble. Mmmmmm
MOM is sort like JN's SLOW. He looks fabulous, but the movie is garbage. However, I think SLOW is actually better.
It appears they were going for a screwball comedy but Posey is not at all appealing and her neurotic behavior doesn't give her the vulnerability that she should have. All you wanted to do is slap her silly. And that side thing with Elizabeth McGovern and Brooke Shields...words fail me. Her imagined story about the Philosopher and his Student was too obviously an exercise in being cute (the laptop, etc.). If this best-selling author wrote such a book, it could only be published by Harlequin.
Or was this supposed to be a Perils of Pauline type thing?
Now back to JN... ;-)
~winter
Fri, Nov 24, 2000 (19:41)
#300
Or was this supposed to be a Perils of Pauline type thing?
I think that was the initial idea. But somewhere after the first fifteen (or less) minutes of MofM, the script just died. I really thought they had something going on with a 90s version of screwball comedy-- unfortunately, it just didn't happen. Sad, because he's been wanting to do more work set in modern times, though there are slim pickins for him.
BTW...Here's a parallel between JN and ODB, if any of you out there don't know-- he's the son of two academics (dad's an ex-Cambridge U Prof-- one of the foremost Ibsen authorities, and mom was teacher, though she's now deceased).
...Now, if only Jeremy could find it in himself to start dating grad students...hmm...just like...me, maybe? ;-P
~KarenR
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (12:19)
#301
JN is certainly THE party animal. Can't begin to tell you how many times he's featured, but looks good! Shirt is open a little too much for my taste...in public. ;-)
~Moon
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (15:10)
#302
I agree, Karen. He wants to be the seaside latin lover indoors in England?
Is that Salman Rs ex?
~KarenR
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (15:30)
#303
No, this one is named Donna Aire and I've been told she's a TV presenter.
Wonder what he's drinking. Looks like a coke to me. ;-)
~Echo
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (17:40)
#304
I don't want to know what she's drinking, though. Looks like .... to me. ;-)
~winter
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (22:37)
#305
ROTFLOL, Echo!!!!
Hey Karen, it could be a rum and coke, for all we know. Where'd ya find the picture?
Hmmm... presenter, eh? I don't like her. ;-)
~winter
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (22:42)
#306
*gasp* I did a quick search on her... SHE'S ONLY 19!!!
~KarenR
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (23:01)
#307
Knock yourself out, hon!
http://community.webshots.com/user/kathe001
~KarenR
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (23:02)
#308
And could definitely be a rum & coke. Her drink looks like a pineapple thing. 19, huh? I'm sure they were just chatting.
~Moon
Thu, Nov 30, 2000 (07:27)
#309
But are you quite sure? ;-) JN, the party animal. ;-))))
~KarenR
Thu, Nov 30, 2000 (08:12)
#310
It would appear that Enigma is to be screened at Sundance. From Variety:
Other screenings
Lukas Moodysson's "Together" is expected to screen, as is Newmarket Group's "Memento," USA Films' "Series 7," Fox Searchlight's "Sexy Beast," Intermedia/Catch 23's "AfterImage" starring John Mellencamp (American Spectrum), Intermedia's "Enigma" and Good Machine's "In the Bedroom," directed by Todd Field (competition).
Full article
http://www.variety.com/body.asp?HbkId=9439248&subcat=-1&ArticleId=1117789817
~MarkG
Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (03:26)
#311
Donna Air(head) may have been 19 once, but the charming Geordie "TV presenter" is now 21 - for what it's worth.
~winter
Sun, Dec 3, 2000 (22:38)
#312
MarkGis now 21 - for what it's worth.
I still say that's much too young...;-)
~AnaR
Wed, Dec 27, 2000 (23:14)
#313
I've just found you all! What a delight to discover so many keen Northam
fans. Of which I am definitely one......Love all his films. Want him to
take a
break in the first part of the year and then to come back sparking on all
cylinders with an Oscar-winning performance in something brilliant and
modern, or perhaps a Golden Globe winning performance, as that has more
cred. Whatever - we just need moremoremore of the Jeremy at his brilliant
best!
~KarenR
Thu, Dec 28, 2000 (12:34)
#314
Ana!
Yes, there are many of us who very much like Jeremy and enjoy his films. I for one cannot wait to see Enigma and the Golden Bowl to a lesser extent because the reviews have been...shall we say...not so hot. But it's always a pleasure to take in an eyeful of JN.
We've been talking about the book/movie that he most recently did at a separate topic for Possession:
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/137/new
There are some great pictures taken on location of JN and his co-star Jennifer Ehle at Whitby. You might want to check out that other topic.
But you can be sure, people will be talking about those other two films here when they get released. A shame, though, that Winter will be off soon for work, but I'm sure she'll find an internet connection in Bali. ;-)
~winter
Thu, Dec 28, 2000 (13:52)
#315
welcome Ana! nice to have you here. do you know about kaf's northamboard?
happy holidays everyone!
and yes, internet connection is quite easy to find in bali. you can bargain down the price per minute (20,000 rupiah per minute!)
~Moon
Thu, Dec 28, 2000 (15:44)
#316
Welcome, Ana! And if you are like us who like both Jeremy and Colin Firth there is a topic in his name you may find of interest. ;-)
When are you leaving for Bali, Winter?
~AnaR
Fri, Dec 29, 2000 (21:10)
#317
Thankyou all for the welcome!! I'll check out the other sites you mention - [but who is 'kaf', please?] Mr N. is pure gold and he attracts the nicest people! Ana
~MarianneC
Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (13:24)
#318
I think Winter means the Jeremy Northam Discussion Board. Hope this link works ... http://www.hartfield.com/cgibin/northam.cgi
~AnaR
Sun, Jan 7, 2001 (05:54)
#319
Thanks for the link.
And I notice that Donna Air has ended their one-month 'relationship', citing the age difference and her busybusy developing career etc......[ref. London Sun]
Here's hoping JN soon finds a fabulous woman who is more his kinda gal! I know I am just hanging out for the announcement here of the release date for The Golden Bowl, followed in quick succession by Enigma and Possession AND, even before that, of his next project. I read in today's on line London papers that a number of Hollywood actors are heading to do plays on the West End - I want JN to return to the stage *soon*, so I hope Pacino and co. don't gobble up all the parts! I see JN as a wonderful Benedict......!
~KarenR
Sun, Jan 7, 2001 (08:31)
#320
I read on one of those film release schedule websites that The Golden Bowl was coming out at the end of March. Haven't heard anything on Enigma, other than it will screen at Sundance later this month, and Possession was supposed to be in the fall, but you never know.
Just found out that JN was appearing on stage nearly at the same time as I was in London in 1999. According to some news items, he was at the Almeida in Jan-Feb 1999 and I was there in March. *bummer*
~CherylB
Sun, Jan 7, 2001 (14:41)
#321
(Ana R)...then to come back sparking on all cylinders with an Oscar-winning performance in something brilliant and modern, or perhaps a Golden Globe winning performance, as that has more cred...
Ana, it is interesting that you metion winning a Golden Globe as having more credibility than an Oscar. I've always seen and heard it pharsed in the reverse. Still, there may be a change in the conventional wisdom.
I hope that you get you wish that JN returns to the stage, and that he has a successful year.
~KarenR
Fri, Jan 19, 2001 (09:49)
#322
About his Italian accent:
To prepare for his role as an Italian aristocrat, still with a heavy Roman accent, Northam spent some time with the real McCoy.
�Ismael and James introduced me to a couple of genuine Roman princes, although one of them spoke slightly less good English than the other, and the other had learnt his English in America,� recalls 38-year-old Northam.
�So, in the long run, that wasn�t too helpful. Every Italian I spoke to said, �Oh it�s very difficult, the Roman accent.� So I just hope I�ve cracked it.
�One person might think it�s authentic, another will think it�s pantomime. It is tricky, because the book suggests that he is an Anglophile without a trace of an Italian accent.
But he is Italian in his gesture, and there�s a phrase in James that says there�s something inescapably Italian in his old Roman shrug.�
Once Northam had donned those stiff wing collars and perfectly-tailored Edwardian coats, there was little room for much flexibility.
�Especially when you go to Italy and surround yourself with Italians,� he says. �That was the preparation I set for myself. Unfortunately, I was doing re-shoots for the American picture Happy Texas, which had been put back, and The Golden Bowl�s schedules were brought forward.
�I ended up, instead of having a few weeks in Italy trying to soak up the local culture, with just four days.
�As a result, I only had 10 days in which to grow a beard before shooting, so the poor crew in hair and make-up used to stick extra bits of beard on my face, until my own facial hair grew a bit more.�
~~~~~~
More at:
http://www.totalwales.co.uk/news/news_story.cfm?ID=199906318607&TYPE=NEWS&STYF
~Moon
Fri, Jan 19, 2001 (11:52)
#323
LOL! Thanks, Karen.
It is tricky, because the book suggests that he is an Anglophile without a trace of an Italian accent.
Just as I thought. And he probably had an English nanny, so there was no need for the Italian accent. Ismael and James blew it this time.