{"conf": "fitness", "generated_at": "2026-04-26T08:00:02.954878Z", "threads": [{"num": 0, "subject": "", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 1, "subject": "Allow me to introduce myself", "response_count": 12, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug  6, 1996 (07:45)", "body": "Hey Terry! You just missed Bicycle Sport's Super Sale -- great opportunity to get a bike. Stop by anyway, ask for Chris or Howard! For the rest of you all (ya'll), my name is Stacey Leigh Vura and for the next few days I will be a resident of the Austin area, skating, cycling and running around town. Next week, I will be acclimating to my new home in Denver, Colorado! Miles of bike/skate trails and MOUNTAINS! woo woo! Happy working out and if I ever get on-line again in my new home, I'll be sure to check in on the spring!"}, {"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug  6, 1996 (07:49)", "body": "Hey Terry! You just missed Bicycle Sport's Super Sale -- great opportunity to get a bike. Stop by anyway, ask for Chris or Howard! For the rest of you all (ya'll), my name is Stacey Leigh Vura and for the next few days I will be a resident of the Austin area, skating, cycling and running around town. Next week, I will be acclimating to my new home in Denver, Colorado! Miles of bike/skate trails and MOUNTAINS! woo woo! Happy working out and if I ever get on-line again in my new home, I'll be sure to check in on the spring!"}, {"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug  6, 1996 (07:59)", "body": "Thanks, I've got an old xt that I'll fix you up with so you can stay plugged in from your new location."}, {"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug  6, 1996 (08:01)", "body": "Woo woo! I will be able to COMMUNICATE! Thanks Terry, I am excited! :)"}, {"response": 1, "author": "dana", "date": "Tue, Sep  3, 1996 (20:45)", "body": "here in KS...seeing if this all really works with the WWW!! I love volleyball-any takers out there??"}, {"response": 1, "author": "bandy", "date": "Thu, Sep 12, 1996 (12:57)", "body": "Yo Stacey, you settled in yet? Our roller hockey league's first game is Sunday night... practice tonight. My first time on a Sport Court."}, {"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 13, 1996 (09:08)", "body": "Cool Andy, but I don't think Stacey has found her way on line yet. I hope she does."}, {"response": 1, "author": "piniefleur", "date": "Sat, Oct  5, 1996 (12:15)", "body": "Hello! I am new. I connected on this conference for I have a question to ask. I am a mountain biker and I often participate in regional championships. I have noticed that my legs do not sweat when I cycle and they are starting to stock big amounts of water. This makes them fatten up and biking becomes harder. And estetically it is quite ugly. Does anybody here have a method which could help me get out of my problems? Thanks alot !"}, {"response": 1, "author": "piniefleur", "date": "Sat, Oct  5, 1996 (12:17)", "body": "Hello! I am new. I connected on this conference for I have a question to ask. I am a mountain biker and I often participate in regional championships. I have noticed that my legs do not sweat when I cycle and they are starting to stock big amounts of water. This makes them fatten up and biking becomes harder. And estetically it is quite ugly. Does anybody here have a method which could help me get out of my problems? Thanks alot !"}, {"response": 1, "author": "erin", "date": "Mon, Oct  7, 1996 (08:14)", "body": "hello,i am also a new one visiting you from the EAGEANcoast ineurope ,may i ask you a question a thread mill or swimming is the best way to lose 5 pounds,because i am overweight only 5 pounds due to the greek kitchen and turkish food"}, {"response": 1, "author": "getfit", "date": "Fri, Nov 22, 1996 (06:19)", "body": "Howdy from Dallas, y'all. Being in the fitness industry, I am excited to have found this format, especially from a fellow Texan. (Will the boasting ever stop? NO WAY!) Erin, I believe you answered the question yourself as to the best method of losing the 5 pounds. However, swimming is a better exercise than the treadmill, but not as convenient sometimes. Looking forward to actively participating here in fitness."}, {"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 23, 1996 (10:30)", "body": "What do you do with the fitness industry and how did you find us? fitness conference | Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 10, "subject": "Cross Country Skiing", "response_count": 44, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (19:41)", "body": "I don't know what happened, but the XCountry skiing area got erased, so we're going to have to start over. We've gotten about 9\" of snow in the past couple of days--should be nice skiing this weekend."}, {"response": 2, "author": "yves", "date": "Thu, Dec 11, 1997 (16:02)", "body": "Think that the topic was under the snow.:o) Now we got 2 cross country skiing topics. Franc or Jon. How many snow's left on the ground? Do you have lot of forest near you? Is cross country skiing is very popular, lot of trail?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Thu, Dec 11, 1997 (16:59)", "body": "It's pretty popular here. Lots of protected land, horse farms, apple orchards, 2 vineyards, golf courses, and small roads. We just got 5\" last nite; by January we usually have plenty of skiworthy area. We get along with the horsemen pretty well!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "triumph", "date": "Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (00:07)", "body": "Well, Yves, I haven't gotten a chance to try your technique yet. I was sick all yesterday and today. Will do it this weekend for sure and let you know."}, {"response": 5, "author": "triumph", "date": "Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (00:09)", "body": "We have two? Geez, I only see one. Weird."}, {"response": 6, "author": "triumph", "date": "Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (00:11)", "body": "Do the people who own the horse land, orchards, vineyards, etc. allow you to ski on their property? There are some great places to go here, and lots of snow, but everyone's into downhill around here. Maybe because Denver has to have more of the best skiing areas in the world within an hour and a half drive. Breckenridge, Keystone, Vail, etc."}, {"response": 7, "author": "yves", "date": "Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (05:21)", "body": "Franc, where are you from? Seems to be mostly a plain. Do you have cross country trails in mountain near? Is cross country very popular in US? Here, it's about 50\\50. Down hill is very popular with teenagers (ski and snowboards)and young people (yes it's for me :o)). Cross country is more a familly affair. Around here it's a plain, snowmobile and 4 wellers domain. But about 50 miles up north, it' mountains, so down hill, cross country, snomobiles and 4 wellers places."}, {"response": 8, "author": "yves", "date": "Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (05:32)", "body": "When I was going to work tonight, I had a idea. I saw the moon getting at his full size. Maybe Franc know's. Jon, when the moon will be full or near, find a place where's no lightning at all, put your snow shoes or skis and take a walk. It is, it is.... Try it and tell me. You have to live that once in your life."}, {"response": 9, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (11:09)", "body": "Haven't had the chance Yves, but I see the point. I'm located in a pretty varied area terrain-wise, leaning towards low mountains and slopes. The Quad riders have ther own places to mess up, it's very popular. The protected lands and farm land is wonderful for family XCountry skiing, the folks who own it are very friendly to the sport. Those who guard their privacy make it very clear (e.g. Mariah Carey, Letterman, some concert musicians,etc.). I don't think it's popular/glamorous enough yet to attract to many enthusiasts. most travel about 1 hour north to downhill \"resorts\" with the crowds, colors, and prices!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "triumph", "date": "Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (14:42)", "body": "Yeah, full moon tomorrow. Maybe I'll give that a try. It can be VERY cold, though. Yeah, it's almost all down hill here in Denver. I don't know about elsewhere, but I think in the US most are into downhill."}, {"response": 11, "author": "triumph", "date": "Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (19:45)", "body": "Well, I was out again today. It was 50 degrees and I was in a T-shirt. Great fun. I realized why I was having such trouble slowing down. The trails I ski are two narrow, close together ruts. It's almost impossible to V in your skis in that situation. But who cares? I got to hauling butt down those slopes and all you had to do, generally, is keep yourself upright--the ruts will keep you on path. Great fun! Felt like about 40 mph, although I know it was less."}, {"response": 12, "author": "yves", "date": "Sun, Dec 14, 1997 (01:44)", "body": "If others don't slow down why should you?:o) If ever you would like to slow down A BIT, you could put your poles between your legs and sit on them A BIT. When you'll really have to slow down, you'll see the trail's getting larger, and without tracks. Do you have any problem about climbing? I was planning to get out tomorrow, but my wife's car maked me change my mind, electrical problem (battery or alternator)So I'll have to look on that by a fresh 17 degrees."}, {"response": 13, "author": "triumph", "date": "Sun, Dec 14, 1997 (03:16)", "body": "Climbing is easy, as is flat areas. One question--today it was fairly warm and the snow was melted some. As a result every 5 feet ice would cake up on the bottoms of the skis, making forward motion almost impossible. Is there any good way to avoid this? I thought that I was picking my feet up too much, but when I made sure to keep my feet down, it still happened. Is this just \"tough luck\" because of the conditions?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "yves", "date": "Sun, Dec 14, 1997 (04:47)", "body": "Could be lack of basic wax. Did you ever put wax on them? If not, could be a good idea to put a base wax. It is a hard one, for coldest temp. (You can put soft wax (high temp) on hard wax low temp. but not inverse.). Here you can find some in spray (Easy to apply). I sometime use paraffin (stuff you cover with comfits jar). I you buy it on solid form, you have to heat the wax and then spread it on your ski. When hardened, you take it off with a scraper., cleaning all the ehhh cracks(?) meaning center line, and kick helper things (really lacking vocab.) Your skis will be a bit faster."}, {"response": 15, "author": "triumph", "date": "Sun, Dec 14, 1997 (23:13)", "body": "Yeah, they're supposedly \"waxless\", but I'm sure you can wax them anyway."}, {"response": 16, "author": "yves", "date": "Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (00:42)", "body": "Yes but only to fill the plastic's porosity, making the skis ice free and sliding better."}, {"response": 17, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec 31, 1997 (02:26)", "body": "I wish it would snow!!!! Man, the skiing on 2 week old \"snow\" (ice pack, really) stinks. As soon as it snows again, I'll be back out. Also have some spots where I'd like to do some \"backcountry\" down hilling, but on a slab of ice it would be pretty terrifying."}, {"response": 18, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Dec 31, 1997 (05:15)", "body": "No if you wear leather coat, pants, gloves, and a helmet.(and don't forget the bicycle horn) :o))) We had 6 inches of brand new snow today but won't have time to put my skis on. We are planing a weekend on snowmobiles in a couple of weeks. I wish you happy new year I will be back in 1998."}, {"response": 19, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec 31, 1997 (13:44)", "body": "Snowmobiles sound fun. Sigh. Won't be able to afford one until next year probably. Do you own one, Yves?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "yves", "date": "Sun, Jan  4, 1998 (02:42)", "body": "I'm back alive and in good shape (no eating and drinking excess :O). When we get back home a fine snow was falling, making the road as a skating ring. Lot of cars where parked in the fields, no damages but very hard on the driver's dignity. A Winstar get launched just 2 cars in front of me. Fun to see. He probably touch his breaks too hard, went 90 deg. and vroom in the snow. I didn't see any 4WD. They were probably too far in the cows field, cause the difference between a 2WD and a 4WD, is that the 4WD just go farther in when they fly off the road :o)) No I don't own a snowmobile, I'll have to rent one. I don't have $$$$ and space to own 5 bikes, 2 cars, a trailer and a snowmobile. Don't forget that I'm married and I'm at my wife's max. tolerence for my playthings:o). One thing that could change all my planing is that it is now possible that I build a house on my land up north next summer. That means lot of preparation, so less time for playing."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan  4, 1998 (10:52)", "body": "Sounds great. Too bad the skiing world had to be shocked by the ski accident of Michael Kennedy a few days ago. We have a 'home' conference if you want to talk about the house you're building; I'm building one too so maybe we could compare notes, Yves."}, {"response": 22, "author": "yves", "date": "Sun, Jan  4, 1998 (23:50)", "body": "I heard about Michael Kennedy's accident at Spring, but not much. Do you know what happened? Must be a bad luck. I've put the home conf. in my hotlist, see you there."}, {"response": 23, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Mon, Jan  5, 1998 (10:44)", "body": "Apparently Kennedy was playing touch-football on skis, using a soda bottle filled with snow as a ball (??) and slammed into a tree head on with resulting multiple internal traumas. Must have been going pretty fast."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan  5, 1998 (11:30)", "body": "He was also shoot videos of the football game they were playing while they were skiing. Apparently, he did some pretty decent things like helping poor folks get heating oil but will be remembered for the sex scandal with his 14 year old babysitter; once called a \"poster boy for bad behavior\" by John Jr. and now eulogized."}, {"response": 25, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Mon, Jan  5, 1998 (18:18)", "body": "It *is* a bad-luck saga. Apparently he was a competent skier."}, {"response": 26, "author": "triumph", "date": "Tue, Jan  6, 1998 (20:00)", "body": "A Kennedy in a sex scandal? No way. That's the sad thing--anyone else (rightly so) would be put away for years with the biggest, baddest, child molester hating convicts around. But Kennedys can comit statutory rape, rape, kill women and leave them in lakes, etc. and get away with it. A damn shame. But I'm WAAAAY off topic. It snowed about 5 inches yesterday, so I'm back in business skiing wise."}, {"response": 27, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Jan  7, 1998 (04:43)", "body": "Your lucky. We're having a very bad weather. It's raining in the upper atmosphere layer and freezing on the ground layer. So the rain freeze instantly when touching the ground. There's about 1 inch of ice on everything. (It took me 3/4 hour to take off ice on my car's windows before getting back home after a 16 hours working shift). Now skiing will be impossible till next snow fall. But I remember of a similar situation a couple years ago. The icy layer was so strong that I've made with my son, bicycle on it. It was incredible. Smooth as on a cloud, and able to go everywhere in a forest near my house. Making slalom onYour lucky. We're having a very bad wether bike between trees, a dream. By Sunday I hope going up north and take a walk in the wood."}, {"response": 28, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Wed, Jan  7, 1998 (10:24)", "body": "Nothing but rain in the air and gritty gravel on the roads here, 50 degrees in January! Went out on the bike Sunday morn, got paranoid about the corners and came back."}, {"response": 29, "author": "yves", "date": "Thu, Jan  8, 1998 (03:51)", "body": "Your lucky Franc even if you ride only a bit it's better than nothing. The only thing that I can do for now is sit on the bike (on it's center stand) and make: vrooom vroooom...(I look before if nobody's around :o))"}, {"response": 30, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Fri, Jan  9, 1998 (12:11)", "body": "Hey man you're not alone! No one can beat you when you're ridin in your garage!. The sandy stuff is extremely scary though. We've had rain & fog and 50+ degrees for 4 days."}, {"response": 31, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Jan 14, 1998 (04:43)", "body": "Last Sunday I went to my land up North. Didn't have to use my snow shoes, there was a hard coat of ice on the snow. The look was weird. All the birch-tree's head were touching the ground. The branches are covered by 2\" of ice. A couple of maple trees damaged, but not that much. If I can I'll get back with a camera. If it's sunny, it'll be great."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 14, 1998 (17:26)", "body": "Is this near Montreal where they had all the outages?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "yves", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (03:18)", "body": "My land is about 50 miles from Montreal. It is in the desaster region. The few people who live there, had electricity only yesterday (8 days without). The bigest problem is cold. Most of us uses electricity to heat. The space touched by that icy rain is very large. It also affected Ontario, Maine, Vermont at different degres."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (05:49)", "body": "I hear they're not talking about repairing the damage but instad about *totally rebuilding* the electric infrastructure. What a huge cost of lives and infrasctructure to this region. Do you know any people personally affected by this crisis? What has happened to them?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (08:43)", "body": "My God Yves I didn't know you were that close to the area. My neighbor just returned from Nova Scotia and told me that there were folks 2 weeks without power, and that Maine was a disaster. A shame. Hope all is well with you and yours!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (19:08)", "body": "Friends of ours in Ottawa are still recovering from damage. Five days w/o power. They cooked all their meals in the fireplace! Without all the death and destruction, cooking meals in the fireplace sounded like fun."}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (21:06)", "body": "I'm glad they had a fireplace."}, {"response": 38, "author": "yves", "date": "Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (03:37)", "body": "It's fun yes, for a day or two. You have to feed it very often, so sleep a little. A conventional fireplace keep the place warm only if weather isn't too cold. The first week was around 19 F. But till Sunday it's about -3 F. At that temperature, you must have a \"slow combustion\" stove that output more heat for the same wood log. At the peak of the crisis there were 1,300,000 homes without power. That means over 2,000,000 people in a vast area. It's really a disaster, a human disaster. From outside it must look not that bad cause there's no big physical damages, no immediate death as in a earthquake for example. But a positive point is that our cold weather made us more used to mutual aid, so with time, we'll get out of it. Personally. we didn't lost power for more than an hour. I must be in God's shadow. But lot off neighbors, friends lost it for different length of time. So I helped them as I could. I didn't work since Monday, cause downtown Montreal was power restricted to the minimum, so there were no commercial activity."}, {"response": 39, "author": "triumph", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (17:00)", "body": "Terrible. The weather here in Colorado has been beautiful. I'm going down hill skiing this weekend--my second attempt. I'm going to take a class, so hopefully that'll help."}, {"response": 40, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (18:05)", "body": "Did you get stuck last weekend with all the snow and induced avalanches?"}, {"response": 41, "author": "triumph", "date": "Mon, Jan 26, 1998 (16:23)", "body": "No, it was fine. It was snowing when I got to Breckenridge and the slopes were beautiful. By afternoon it was sunny, about 4\" new powder, and 50 degrees. Stunning! I ended up renting a Telemark rig because it felt so weird having your heels attached and I couldn't figure out how to get up after falling. The Tele skis made that alot easier and I ended up having a great time."}, {"response": 42, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jan 26, 1998 (18:19)", "body": "sounds like a stellar weekend!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "yves", "date": "Sun, Mar 22, 1998 (15:27)", "body": "THanks, I feel better :o))"}, {"response": 45, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (11:33)", "body": "damn, i guess i mussed it up! fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 11, "subject": "exercise videos", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 28, 1997 (15:25)", "body": "From an e-mail: Hi, To answer your question the other night, here are the videos I've tried: I started with the original Jazzercise video ('83 or so, probably out of print) by Judi Sheppard Missett. It's a good beginner floor aerobics tape. She's so over-the-top perky I had to give up and enjoy it. But it's a short step from there to Richard Simmons, and I don't think I want to go there. The first part of \"Jane Fonda's Complete Workout\" was okay, but the aerobics part was too dancy and confusing for me. \"The Method: All in One Workout\" -- based on Pilades, yoga, classical and aerobic dance. Again, way too dancy and confusing for me. Hated it. \"Basic Training: The Workout\" is a 60-minute tape combining low-impact aerobics with some strength training (light weights). There are helicopters and stuff in the background. I like this one. Sometimes I just do the first half for the aerobics, using it with the Firm tape on alternate days. \"Kathy Smith's Fat Burning Workout\" -- Okay, I'm not really fat, but I have gained around 20 pounds in the last couple of years, and that's probably not good. Anyway, this is fairly low-intensity but steady, to keep you in the fat-burning stage for the full 40-minutes. I like this one for when I just want to do aerobics. \"Your Personal Best Workout with Elle Macpherson,\" by Karen Voight. This one's kinda cute, friendly but not perky, with nice Hawaiian scenery. I like it okay. My favorite right now is The Firm's \"Cross Trainers / Firm Strength\". It's a 55-minute mix of aerobics and weight training, often at the same time. This one's heavy duty, harder than the others but probably more effective. Just when you can't take any more, they switch to a different muscle group and push you too far on that one. It's really well done, and seems to be a favorite on http://videofitness.com , a consumer's guide to fitness videos. \"Firm Cardio\" and \"Karen Voight's Energy Sprint\" are supposed to be good too, but I haven't tried them because the choreography is rated moderate instead of basic, and you saw what happened when I tried to waltz with Ed's sister. A company called Collage Video has a mail order catalog of exercise videos, 800-433-6769. This was probably more than you wanted to know, but I hope it was useful or at least amusing. Here are some exercise videos I'd like to see: 1) An exercise video for dogs and cats (using Jurassic Park-type computer graphics). Occasionally they'll start scratching themselves or chase each other around the room. 2) A porno exercise video, maybe with really heavy dildos or something. 3) A Grateful Dead exercise video. (There's a reggae one called \"Jamaica Me S'wet.\") 4) An otherwise normal exercise video, but with someone like me in the group who's always doing the wrong moves and stumbling around trying to keep up. Actually, there was a scene kind of like that in Bill Murray's \"The Man Who Knew Too Little,\" which was much funnier than any of these videos, but probably not as good for you."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 28, 1997 (17:28)", "body": "Credit Earl Vickers (earl@well.com) with the great information above."}, {"response": 3, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Mon, Dec 29, 1997 (11:20)", "body": "Good info! While not a video fan, my wife uses the Firm videos and I see they are well done. I have one word for watching exercise videos: \"Kiana\" (o;{ fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 12, "subject": "The Spring's International Run Club", "response_count": 41, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (19:12)", "body": "My personal training program for March; Mon - weights, Tues - 4-5 mi, Weds - weights, Thur - 4-5 mi, Fri 4-5 mi, Sat - weights, Sun - 6 mi . In April, Thurs will become a 'speed' day at the track and Fri will become a rest day. At the same time the Sun run will lengthen making Mon a rest day. I may continue to do weight training on 'rest' days depending on my (or my running partner's) fatigue level. In addition to the noted milage, I use a heart monitor in order to maintain an easy/hard regimen, alternating between running at a 70% of max heart rate with 80% days... speed days being at around 90-95% output. I am 'attempting' to train for the MArine Corp Marathon to be held Oct 25th 1998. I've never gone that distance..."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (23:28)", "body": "Where is this event going to be?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Tue, Mar  3, 1998 (08:28)", "body": "GI-Gena? (o;"}, {"response": 4, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Mar  3, 1998 (09:27)", "body": "Cute! GI-Gena... I think I like it. Sounds like a great movie title... OK. The Marine Corp Marathon is held in Washington DC. For info, go to the official website http://issb-www1.mqg.usmc.mil/marathon There is a description of the history of the race, a course map and, for the inspired, an application."}, {"response": 5, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Mar  3, 1998 (09:39)", "body": "Terry... it may be a stretch, but can you link this topic into sports? I hope to put info in about the upcoming Goodwill Games Track & Field, the summer Olympic T & F info, etc. Whaddayatink?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (06:41)", "body": "Done!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (06:42)", "body": "Ok: li fitness 12 Linking as item 41...done."}, {"response": 8, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (09:18)", "body": "Snappy!!!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:19)", "body": "Who knows, maybe we'll have a Spring-A-Thon!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (11:32)", "body": "I'm thinking racing singlets... a really cool logo for The Spring on the front, email addresses on the back. Perhaps we should have a 'design the singlet logo' contest...unless you already have a logo for dis place...."}, {"response": 11, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (11:41)", "body": "Anyway, back to the business at hand... The following are some links to good sites having to do with running. Also I've included links to the official \"Games\" sites of the different competitions in the future, with date. KICK; The Runners Resource http://kicksports.com Runners World Magazine http://www.runnersworld.com USA Track & Field http://usatf.org The Goodwill Games 1998 New York, NY July 19 - Aug 2 http://www.goodwillgames98.com The Gay Games 1998 Amsterdam NL Aug 1 - Aug 8 http://www.gaygames.nl Olympics; Summer 2000 Sydney Australia http://www.sydney.olympic.org Winter 2002 Salt Lake City Utah http://www.slc2002.org Summer 2004 Athens Greece http://www.athens2004.net International Olympic Committee http://www.olympic.org Enjoy!!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (08:06)", "body": "Did I scare everybody away? Runners where are you? Anybody have an upcoming race, a race recommendation... a dream?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (18:21)", "body": "three years ago today I ran my first marathon, I'm looking to do a Tin Man Tri in the mountains this summer. Problem number one is the open water swims are always so damn cold you usually need a wet suit -- YUCK!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (18:05)", "body": "good luck to you stacey! if not for the water part, i'd consider a tri. i have a great fear of water, however. they have some great looking wetsuits avail thess days stacey...several actually made for women rather than sized down mens versions. i ran 3 miles easy today... get back on schedule this week with the milage. winter can't last much longer, unless we get another easter blizzard."}, {"response": 15, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (12:25)", "body": "opted for a short skate while I overcome the illness battle..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (13:06)", "body": "Hit the gym to lift today... short and light, just to get back into the swing. Two sets, general all body part workout."}, {"response": 17, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (09:32)", "body": "Tues - ran 3.5 mi on the only sunny day we've had this week. Wed - wieghts at the gym. Pretty useless... had no sleep the night before. Surprised I didn't drop a barbell on my head. Today, well, running is the plan but it's raining and cold and generally yucky. It may become a 'rest' day. FYI woman runners. In New York City June 6th is the Advil 10K, one of the premier womens races in the country. If anybody's interested in traveling to run it, watch the New York Road Runners Club site, http://www.nyrrc.org for entry info. They'll put an entry form on the site, probably in late April."}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (10:40)", "body": "no running... went mucking through the 14 inches of snow that fell yesterday (out of nowhere!) to the store for batteries! Walking through the snow, especially that much of it, uses plenty of different muscles and, when combined with shoveling out the sidewalk and driveway, makes for a satisfactory workout! tonight, if it reopens, weights at the rec center and a few trips around the track (nowhere else to run to baby... nowhere to hide...)"}, {"response": 19, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar 22, 1998 (08:44)", "body": "Ahhh New England! Saterday; weights... a good workout this time. Bless vitamin B and L-carnitine cocktails! Today (Sun); Well it's a run day, a 6 mi run day to be exact. And true to form, since its the first weekend of spring, it's snowing like a big dog! Will attempt to coerce my running partner into some other aerobic activity..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (11:34)", "body": "15 miles on skates. running just seemed to slow for me today! (yesterday) 2 miles this a.m. before work"}, {"response": 21, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (13:12)", "body": "Go Stacey! Yesterday; 5 mi run through the slush. yechh! Today; to do 4 mi, just any minute now... my lunch diversion."}, {"response": 22, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (13:12)", "body": "Hallelujah!! Spring has sprung in New England! Actually got a total of 23 miles in last week (running). Took Monday off. Today ran 4 hard. 73 degrees and climbing! Even tok the motorcycle out of storage over the weekend for a couple of short rides. Yee-Hah!!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (12:26)", "body": "Gena, you're bustin' out all over! Way to go!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "yves", "date": "Thu, Apr  2, 1998 (23:34)", "body": ""}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (19:00)", "body": "ran for miles and miles along the beach in Hilton Head (pit stop after Savannah). Walked for hours and hours in historic Savannah. Since I've been home... diddley squat!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (21:03)", "body": "I went for a long walk / run in the woods by my house today."}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (09:50)", "body": "by the new house?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (10:16)", "body": "nope the Old House. I'm not moving in to the New House till May 20th."}, {"response": 29, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sat, Apr 18, 1998 (21:53)", "body": "Hey y'all!! Well, have managed to run 2 20+ mile weeks in a row... now if I can just keep it up. Am supposed to run 6 mi tomorrow, but am going on a motorcycle ride all morning (trying to beat the rain) instead. Maybe I'll run after, if I can stand up after 150 mi on a motorcycle... Monday is Boston Marathon day. I'll be at the famous Heartbreak Hill, watching for the Kenyans. Weather is supposed to be in the 60's and windy... we'll see. No Uta Pippig this year, and Elena Meyer dropped out as well due to injury. Hmmm, maybe the americans have a chance..."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 18, 1998 (23:37)", "body": "It will be exciting to be there, Gena. Are you running in it? Is it going to be nationally televised?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (01:09)", "body": "so outta the loop. 1 1/2 hours at the gym before I realized the weather was perfect for a bike ride. Wore my little self out!!! Did both of course!!!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (09:28)", "body": "Inspirational. I'm going to get out and clean up the construction site at Cedar Creek and go for a walk in the woods. And chain saw up the trees we had to clear for the cottage. When I move to the house in town, I'll get over to the Q more (Stacey, remember the Q?)"}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (10:11)", "body": "I remember... Wish I still had the work schedule to be able to fit in an hour or so of sweating before work!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (10:39)", "body": "What time do you have to be at work? Do you have access to the schools showers?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (17:37)", "body": "the school has one emergency shower (chemical shower) in the bowels of the building. I am at school by 7:30 a.m."}, {"response": 36, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (21:33)", "body": "Hi... sorry so late in getting back. Yes, the Boston Marathon was exciting this year, especially the womens wheelchair division. It was a photo finish! I took in the action at Heartbreak Hill, that's about the 20 mile mark. It was too cold for the spectators, thus lovely for the runners. Came home, ran too hard in the cold. Irritated my achilles. Swam Tuesday, then yesterday when and did a hard 5 miles... beating my achilles to death. I now can't walk.... smart, huh? Two weeks minimum - no running, ice, ibuprofin and maybe some pool work. I'm bummed..."}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (06:13)", "body": "Oooh, man, Gena, that hurts. I've had that injury and it's no fun. Can you swim in the meantime while you're recovering? Whirlpool?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (10:05)", "body": "been there gena. it sucks. after my first marathon I was so pumped on running and I went out and tried just three hard miles two days later. Ended up with a stress fracture in my left knee. Crutches for eight weeks. Minimal activity for ages and ages and ages after that. Not all bad. That's when I started mountain biking. Less stress on the knees (unless you land on one!) heal quickly!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Jun  1, 1998 (16:49)", "body": "Hi y'all! Well one month later and I still can't REALLY run. I did 5 laps of the track (ran on the grass edge) Saturday. Will attempt the same tonight. I really did a job on my achilles. Cortizone has been suggested, but I hate that stuff! I've had one shot in the knee and one to the elbow. Would rather not get any more. Hope all is well with everyone. The motorcycling is good. Toured Vermont over Memorial weekend."}, {"response": 40, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun  1, 1998 (23:24)", "body": "good luck with the achilles gena!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:35)", "body": "How's your health these days, Gena? fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 13, "subject": "Ultimate Frisbee", "response_count": 38, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun  1, 1998 (23:31)", "body": "Brandon and I joined an Ultimate Frisbee league out here in the Rockies. We are playing on separate teams so we may grow at our own pace and increase the potential friend pool, as after 1 1/2 years out here, we still seem to be lacking in athleticly inclined, beer drinking fiend-like friends. My first game was Last Friday. Ironically, my first paractice was this evening! In a mere 2 1/2 hours I've learned how to 'flick' the disc (forehand), lengthen the distance of my backhand and run a couple of offensive and defensive plays. Although the sport claims to be 'non-contact', the ground and I became rather intimate!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "jgross5", "date": "Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (06:07)", "body": "Sounds like chess. Stacey, are you describing chess? So they just thought they'd go ahead and give it a new name?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (10:46)", "body": "it's the Colorado way, to rename, remix and add a sweat element! (actually I think the sport orginated in California or Wisconsin, or somewhere else) So are you telling me (in an informational manner, not as in scolding) that if I am able to involve myself to such a high degree and in such a manner with this new game, I'm actually improving my chess game? Sheesh. I didn't even think I knew how to play chess. Power of positive thinking! Ever play around with a frisbee? One of many favorite Austin activities was to take the frisbee down to Zilker and try and get someone to throw it around with me. I always brought a bag of bread to feed the ducks, in case no one wanted to play. Actually I used to carry a frisbee around with me most places. When I went hiking, I would climb up some rather steep inclines and, if'n I were to chicken to run down, I'd sit on the frisbee and slide down."}, {"response": 4, "author": "jgross5", "date": "Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (15:49)", "body": "I don't play chess. I wasn't thinkin' one activity lends itself well to the other. True, though, they'd both help each other out. So what I mean is, in Response 2, I was just trying to think of something funny to say. Goin' for the laugh. Not at all a mocking laugh, either. I can't think of a more fun thing to do than ultimate frisbee. I can't do it, though: rheumatoid arthritis Got a real light case of it, but it is 40 years old in me, that chronic and it's degenerative. Lot's of stuff I could do, but don't: lazy lazy lazy I like to dance, as in experimental choreography, real real free form. But I don't---lazy lazy lazy Sorry if I got ya goin' in a misconstrued direction there, with my response numero 2. Wish I could be alot funnier, and more often."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (17:50)", "body": "Have played, actually, albeit in the mountains of New Mexico... I'm envious"}, {"response": 6, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (17:56)", "body": "Ultimate Frisbee or chess? *laugh* Gotta love free form dancing! I really enjoy free form singing myself!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (23:45)", "body": "ultimate (not very good at chess, or free form dancing...)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jun  5, 1998 (10:20)", "body": "Another game last night... game 3 for the season... my second game. I caught three passes!!!! (and dropped two) Our team played SO well, it's so exciting to watch how we get more adept at predicting other's plays after only a few times together. Of course the COlorado weather was in fine form... 39 degrees and sleeting. I met a few people from Austin and we all lamented together! We won!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jun  5, 1998 (10:49)", "body": "congrats!!!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jun  5, 1998 (11:26)", "body": "thank you thank you thank you"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jun  6, 1998 (19:41)", "body": "You're developing into a fine tight end Stace'"}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun  7, 1998 (01:12)", "body": "*ksfnkr* (keeping silent for no known reason)"}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun  9, 1998 (18:38)", "body": "\u001b[1~thanks Paul but you haven't seen any pictures of my rear lately!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 11, 1998 (19:23)", "body": "Are you going to provide some?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 11, 1998 (20:24)", "body": "haven't we gone through this already, to no avail?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 11, 1998 (22:20)", "body": "Let's look at the upside."}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 11, 1998 (22:47)", "body": "I thought you wanted a picture of the backside..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "jgross5", "date": "Fri, Jun 12, 1998 (20:40)", "body": "she'll probably scan a picture of one of her cat's butts and send it out saying, \"i gotta lotta tail, huh, guys\" and the tail will probably be fairly vertical ....the upside"}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 16, 1998 (13:58)", "body": "*laugh* (great idea Leplep... wish i had thought of it!) The ULTIMATE ultimate frisbee game is approaching... Thrursday night my undefeated team pitted against Brandon's undefeated team! The winner gets to supervise the move on Friday... the loser gets to move all the boxes! I am really enjoying this game! All the running, acquisition of new skills and new friends... oh yeah, and the five kegs the league provides after every game!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (14:52)", "body": "still playing. ran myself ragged last night. beautiful summer night with HEAVY humidity by COlorado standards [READ: possibly 20%]. Smelled like summer with a combonation of sundried grass, bug spray, sweat, outdoor grilling... Just made me want to run harder, faster, longer... Made me giddy with life. SO happy I take care of my body and I can do things like that. When I get to the top of a mountain or to the bottom of a deep canyon after hours of biking, hiking, skating... whatever. I am always reminded why I do the silly things I do."}, {"response": 21, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (15:39)", "body": "*smile*"}, {"response": 22, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (15:39)", "body": "hey, you never did say who won the undefeated contest and had to do the moving... (unless I missed it on here somewhere during one of the funky date things...)"}, {"response": 23, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (14:04)", "body": "My team won but the moving burden was distributed equitably. Now Brandon's team is first place in the league because we have lost two games and they have only lost once (at least it was to us!) Playoffs begin in two weeks!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (17:30)", "body": "well then, congrats, figured that would happen, my condolences, and good luck!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (18:19)", "body": "Where do they play Ultimate Frisbee in Austin, Pease Park? I'll do a search on 360 and see if it comes up. I'm still a little hazy on the rules."}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (14:15)", "body": "they play disc golf at Pease Park... I dunno about Ultimate. You really need the area of a soccer field and I cannot remember if the area just south of Enfield is big enough, excuse me... NORTH of Enfield."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (16:48)", "body": "Nothing found in the 360 search for disc golf, just a few random comments about the \"controversy\" over charging for it, like these: Would I pay? No I would not. I do not have to pay to use the tennis courts at Mary Seeright. I do not have to pay to use the bike and walking trails at Zilker. I do not have to pay to spend a Saturday afternoon picnicing at Pease. I do not have to pay to play a game of soccer the Old Settlers. Why should I have to pay to play disc golf? That is ridiculous. I cannot believe that the upkeep of the disc golf course costs more than the costs of keeping miles of biking trails safe, or keeping many scoccer fileds in playable condition. I also believe that the cost of having someone out on the courses to collect money, and someone policing the courses to catch those that did not pay, would cost far more than $1 or $2 dollars per game. If it is decided that we have to pay to play, then I will either just skip the first and last holes, or I will play like they used to play years ago picking trees as 'catchers'. There are still many parks, and many parts or parks in this city that myself and friends will be able to play at. No, I would not pay more to play, I already pay taxes and that is enough. (08:12:16 AM, 02/18) etc. etc."}, {"response": 28, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (18:47)", "body": "No charge to play in Denver, Littleton or Arvada..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (05:24)", "body": "I don't think this policy ever caught on, and the respond was overwhelmingly against charging for it. How is \"Ultimate Frisbee\" different from \"Disc Golf\"?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (11:28)", "body": "you mean, other than Ultimate is a contact sport?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Aug  1, 1998 (00:02)", "body": "(posted a detailed response earlier... and then the power went out!) Ultimate... four men, three women on each team (our league rules), throw disc to team members up to endzones at end of soccer sized field. No running with the disc... must throw to team member in the endzone (goal) to score. If the disc is dropped, the play is called a 'turn' and the other team takes possession... Not supposed to be contact but... Disc golf... disc = golf ball arm = golf club baskets = holes Both sports are tons o fun but Ultimate holds my attention (and uses my energy) MUCH better!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug  1, 1998 (07:01)", "body": "What's the size of the field? Does it matter?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug  6, 1998 (17:53)", "body": "about the size of a soccer field..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:36)", "body": "Wow, I would love to play ultimate . . . are you still playing this Stacey?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2006 (19:59)", "body": "nope... my kids play better frisbee than I do these days!!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2006 (12:02)", "body": "Do they just toss it around or do they play disc golf or ultimate?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2006 (14:37)", "body": "LOL! They are 3 and 5 remember???"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2006 (13:38)", "body": "Oh yeah! I was thinking more time had gone by than has. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 14, "subject": "bicycling", "response_count": 96, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (06:49)", "body": "I want to get back in to bicycling, and saw this on the newsgroups: FS: $400-Raleigh M800 Aluminum Mountain Bike dan@cs.utexas.edu daniel f. jones at CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin This is an equally great bike for campus or on the trails. Some of the features include: Classic Rock Shox Very light off road use Deore LX components U-lock Trek mini-pump Helmet FREE Lifetime tune-ups at Sun and Ski (haven't ridden since last) Secure credit card payment over web available. I don't know the height off hand, but I am about 6' 2\" and have the seat at a high setting. I would imagine that anyone between 5' 8\" and 6' 3\" would be comfortable. I am located in S. Austin for the next few weeks. 356-5761 (home) 796-0951 (away) -Dan Is this a good deal?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Aug  1, 1998 (00:10)", "body": "First of all... NEVER, NEVER, NEVER buy a used helmet... you can always afford the minimum $30 bucks for one you KNOW has never been structurally compromised. As far as the bike... size is not just about reaching the pedals you should have a stand over heighth (distance between the top tube and you) of about 1 1/2 inches on a mountain bike. Then all brands are different and the fit will depends a lot on whether or not your upper body can reach comfortably to the handle bars. There is a LOT to explain about cycling fit before you can determine if it is a good deal for you. My advice... take a look-see into Bicycle Sports Shop (on Toomey Rd just North of Barton Springs Rd) ask for Chris Thomas (shop manager) and tell him 'Peaches' sent you in (don't ask!! :-)) He will give you all the explanation and question time you need (or will set you up with someone who can!) Used bikes are a great option, depending on how hard you want to ride... frames, materials and components have only improved over the years and every year things get cheaper... (so excited Paul that you are going to start riding again!!!)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug  1, 1998 (07:04)", "body": "I'll check it out on my lunch break next week, that bike shop is just down the street from the place I eat lunch a lot, Casa de Luz. Cool! I am tempted to ask though."}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug  6, 1998 (17:53)", "body": "did ya go???"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug  6, 1998 (18:09)", "body": "Not yet. It's been *raining*!!!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Aug  8, 1998 (17:51)", "body": "from what I understand, that is a welcome occurance! (you CAN ride in the rain though!)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Oct  4, 1998 (23:29)", "body": "what ever happened with the bicycle search? Big MTB ride today. First time since last Spring that the cycling tights have been dragged out! Up on the top of an overlook, I was gushing about the scenery, the trees changing colors, the clarity of everything and Brandon said, \"Look, not a person, road or car in sight... We could be ANYWHERE right now.\" I thought about it for a moment and realized that, although he was referring to locations deep in the wilderness, we could NOT be 'anywhere.' There is no view like that in Houston, in Chicago or even in Florida. The area is so decidedly unique in its beauty. I really love Colorado and wish I could show it to everyone! Again, although my fitness level seems to have waned, I am so glad I keep myself in a physical condition to do the things I do. You cannot drive nor teleport to the site I saw today. I feel lucky."}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Oct  5, 1998 (00:25)", "body": "as indeed you are..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (21:53)", "body": "It got back burnered, but I still want to do it."}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (22:01)", "body": "The weather here has been atypically cold and on Sunday, with the temp high of 5 degrees above zero, I decided to go mountain biking. Ummm... watch out for the toes! Damn it was cold. I forsaked the sleek cycling look for my down and Gor-Tex parka... fondly referred to as \"The Androgenous Parka\" for very visually obvious reasons. When I came home, my feet were SO cold I could hardly walk. I stuck them in a bowl full of cold water until they thawed out!~ Brandon loves the ice biking phenom... I think I'll wait until the mercury sees 20+ again before trying that again!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "PT", "date": "Tue, Dec 22, 1998 (12:11)", "body": "Buy a pair of heavy, woolen, socks, make a cutout for your cleats, and put them on over your shoes. If that dousn't work, do the same thing with the neoprene boots from a wetsuit."}, {"response": 12, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Dec 22, 1998 (15:40)", "body": "it's the cleat/SPD connection that makes my foot so cold! I'm just going to get a neoprene liner for the bottom of my shoe, I suppose!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "PT", "date": "Tue, Dec 22, 1998 (17:09)", "body": "That ought to work. Insulating the rest of your foot will help also. If that is the only place for heat to escape, it will me much warmer there."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan  4, 1999 (11:10)", "body": "I think today's the day I'm really going to go to Bucks Bikes. I'll go to the one on Research and see what they've got."}, {"response": 15, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Jan  4, 1999 (11:20)", "body": "i know so little about bikes nowadays and i'd like to buy one myself. tell us all about what you learn today."}, {"response": 16, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan  6, 1999 (20:35)", "body": "well... didya? didya??"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan  6, 1999 (21:15)", "body": "Not yet. Everything else came up. But I wanna. I wanna."}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan  6, 1999 (21:40)", "body": "I'm going to take my bike to work tomorrow and ride with a coworker up the mountain road... helmets all around!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "PT", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (05:26)", "body": "The real fun is coming back down."}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (11:11)", "body": "i prefer downhill on trails, not so much on roads. i've already had my fair share of road rash, even at my young age"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (12:21)", "body": "\"Bicycling causes impotence in men.\" Comments. Suggestions."}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (12:34)", "body": "bullshit"}, {"response": 23, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (14:16)", "body": "i am guessing it has something to do with heating up the family jewels, or with restricting blood flow to the jewels or to the other naughty parts. the whole issue of lowering sperm counts in men by doing bicycling is pretty questionable, imho."}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (14:22)", "body": "now... reducing fertility is an entirely different issue. The cycling shorts can get pretty heated and reducing the number of healthy sperm is certainly at issue but impotence... that's simply not true."}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (17:11)", "body": "I became a little roadie this weekend. My boss has a small Gitane road bike that hasn't been road worthy for awhile and is way too small for him... We fixed it up (replaced brake cables and tweaked shifters) this weekend and I've been riding it all around. What a change from off-raoding... I don't like cars but there are plenty of routes around here that are relatively motor traffic free... I'm riding it home tonight... Woo Woo!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (17:28)", "body": "I used to run a gorgeous blue metallic Francesco Moser, a small italian racing frame. Got me everywhere, and in a whiz. Lightnin' streak of blue! Wonderful built, all cables in blue covers, nearly like the frame, everything so BEAUTIFUL. People admired it when I parked it somewhere. So much that it got stolen."}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (11:13)", "body": "ouch. do you ride anymore?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 29, 1999 (13:05)", "body": "Well, this cured me from buying any fancy stuff. My current bike - basically unmoved since I moved over here four years ago - is a 1960s mens bike, classic German touring style, which means it's worse that outdated. Our neighbors threw it away when they old Dad died. So I took it. Nobody would ever think of stealing this. Only bit of sophistication is the Sachs five-speed I fit to it. Even bought that used. Come to think of it, I have lots of things, most used, trashed up or in need or serious rebuilt. The perfect mirror of the owner... Junk with potential but no means."}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "returned last night from a four day mountain biking vacation in Moab, Utah. Oh my, oh my! The trails to be had there! lots of rocks, lots of ledges! my lasting impressions are etched in my chin from the endo I took on Porcupine Rim trail Sunday evening! owwie! we camped Thurs, Fri and Sat nights but after the 25+ miles of riding Sunday we packed up the tent and checked into the Apache Motel! aaahhhh! a shower was mighty fine hey! where are all the bike riders???"}, {"response": 30, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (03:56)", "body": "Apache Motel maybe?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (10:25)", "body": "there were quite a few there, yes."}, {"response": 32, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (10:26)", "body": "I bought new road shoes a couple of weeks ago -- my first pair. Rode in today on the road bike blah, blah, blah... anyone else take a bike ride lately?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (10:53)", "body": "No, been swimmin' lots. How's the chin?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (16:29)", "body": "better thanks. I've been rubbing vitamin E on it for the past few days. Are you swimming at home or at the Springs?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (11:39)", "body": "At home, 90% of the time. I just installed a new filter in line with the Kreepie Kraulie called a \"nature2\" which cuts down chlorine by 80%, the waters so clean now a frog can live in the pool (we tested this). The waters been around 84 degrees so far this summer. I even have a networked computer by poolside now!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (12:00)", "body": "chi chi! sounds like you're living the life!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (22:22)", "body": "hi y'all! I'm back. So what... nobodies been on a bike since last June? Where is everybody. Austin is the home of Lance... surely there are some cyclists on the Spring."}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (00:20)", "body": "Someone posted 36 times before yours. They're out there waiting for someone to talk to, probably. Just like the train hoppers..."}, {"response": 39, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (07:55)", "body": "I'm shopping for a bike, I hear you can get a decent trail bike for around $200 and I hear bikes with automatic shifters are going to become more commonplace. That appeals to me."}, {"response": 40, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (08:13)", "body": "I tide a TREK 1000, purchased in 1990. I didn't ride it much (read that hardly ever) because I was a runner. When running went down the crapper... and I finally came out of denial about it and stopped trying to run, I dusted the old steed off, got her tuned and tweaked at the local bike shop and last summer, started peddling. I've kept her stock, except for an AVOCET gel saddle and SpeedPlay clip-in peddles (really love them). Back in '90 this bike rolled out of the showroom for $400-500. Terry, the April issue of BICYCLING magazine was the 2000 buyers guide. I would recommend you get your hands on it. It reviews the top 4-5 bikes in each type. If you can't find in on the stands, you might be able to order back issues at the website http://www.bicycling.com Now I'm in training for the September Boston-NewYork AIDSRide. 275 miles in 3 days (Contributions would be gladly accepted. Email me offline if you are interested). As training progresses, I'll go from doing about 50 miles per week to doing 150 miles per week. Butt callouses, here I come :)"}, {"response": 41, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (08:52)", "body": "I'll try and grab a copy of that. What's the date on your AIDSRide?"}, {"response": 42, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (11:24)", "body": "The ride is Sept 15-17, 2000. Fundraising and training are in progress."}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:28)", "body": "Lance Armstrong Second in Tour De France Warm-Up PARIS (Reuters) - Lance Armstrong upped a gear in his preparations to defend his Tour de France title with second place in the Paris-Camembert classic on Tuesday. The US Postal rider finished six seconds behind Frenchman Didier Rous of the Bonjour team in the 129-mile race to Vimoutiers. Spain's Igor Flores of Euskaltel was third. Rous made a break 5 miles from the finish and ended with a time of four hours 43 minutes 17 seconds. Armstrong, who won the Tour de France last year after recovering from cancer, won the sprint in the chasing group. It was the first time the winner of the previous season's Tour de France had taken part in the race and Armstrong took advantage to show he was in good shape. ``He's physically fitter than (at the same time) last year,'' US Postal's sporting director Johan Bruyneel said. Armstrong's preparations for July's Tour include next month's Midi Libreand several other French races in June."}, {"response": 44, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:43)", "body": "Go Lance!!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:51)", "body": "Yeah...that's what I thought! (No topic in Sports was appropriate - and he MUST be as fit as possible for him to be...)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (22:16)", "body": "Go Lance, our Austin boy! Last time I was at BookStop at Central Market, Lance opened the door for me, didn't I tell you that story?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (22:29)", "body": "No way! That's SO cool! I watched all the T de F stages I could last time. I was so proud of him. Now if we could just get an American long distance runner phenom..."}, {"response": 48, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "I was walking out of Bookstop and I was at least 20 feet away from the door and this guy was holding the door for me, as I walked by and he turned to walk away I noticed it was Lance. And I had been thinking \"How considerate, this guy's opening the door for me and I'm not even close to it yet.\" I noticed he was a bit short."}, {"response": 49, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "Yeah.. he's not a big guy at all. But cyclists aren't necessarily bulky. They're a pretty lean bunch. HUGE muscular butts though... like ballet dancers almost."}, {"response": 50, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (22:49)", "body": "He jumped in his car. I was wondering if he might have rode his bike."}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (21:34)", "body": "Way Cool, Terry! Do all of the good guys come from Austin??!! Rhetorical question - of course they do!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "But of course, all good guys come from Austin!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (21:42)", "body": "More stuff about Lance on the web: Lance Armstrong OnLine - official site for information on his career and health. http://www.lancearmstrong.com/ Talk Cycling Interview with Lance - bike rider and a class act of a guy. http://www.cyclingnews.com/interviews/lance97.html TCRC Lance Armstrong Page http://www.acor.org/TCRC/lance.html"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (21:42)", "body": "I told you it was Rhetorical...*grin*"}, {"response": 55, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:00)", "body": "O.k. boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen and anybody left over... some of you know me from my infrequent 'drop-ins' over the years, some of you wouldn't know me if I was standing right in front of you. Despite that I have something I'd like to tell you about... something I'm doing that I think is pretty incredible... something I need the Spring's help, your help, to do. I\ufffdm writing because in a few months, I\ufffdll be participating in very powerful event to help fight the battle against AIDS. In September 2000, I\ufffdll take three days out of my life to ride a bicycle 275 miles from Boston to New York with over 3,000 other people in an event called Boston-New York AIDSRide 6. We\ufffdre riding to raise money for the HIV/AIDS-related services of Fenway Community Health in Boston. We hope to raise more than $5 million for individuals living with AIDS, and important AIDS prevention programs. I\ufffdve agreed to raise at least $1,700 in pledges between now and the beginning of the Ride on September 15th. I need your help. Would you please make a pledge to help me meet my goal? Please keep in mind how far I\ufffdm riding, the commitment I\ufffdve made and how long I\ufffdll have to train for this event. Between now and the date of the Ride, I will log 50 to 150 miles per week on my bicycle \ufffd I\ufffdm probably in the saddle right now! Make out a check, today if you can. Make it payable to \"Boston-New York AIDSRide 6\" and mail it to: Gena Ratcliff, 16 Balmoral St #111, Andover MA 01810. When I receive it, I will fill out a pledge form in your name and submit it with your check. Remember, all contributions are tax deductible. Thanks for listening... and thank you in advance for your generousity"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:08)", "body": ""}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:09)", "body": "Gena, post this on Porch and in http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/travel/26 where the most people will see it. It is a most worthy enterprise! You Go, Girl!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:20)", "body": "I just sent terry an email asking him to do some Spring wizardry to copy it onto some other conferences... I'm not real good at this bbs stuff yet. I don't know how busy he is though. Can you help me out with that? You seem to be the holder of quite a magic wand."}, {"response": 59, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:29)", "body": "OK... I did it. I got it in Travel where you said and in Porch under Shameless self promotion (i didn't know where else to put it). Hope it's ok..."}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:43)", "body": "Sounds exactly perfect - can't do better than that!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:46)", "body": "Thanks about the Magic Wand comment, but it is really hard-learned lessons and not magic at all - excepting for those not knowing HTML programming and copy 'n' paste techinques!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:52)", "body": "i took a little one day beginner HTML class... and I bought a book. I started a webpage of my own but never really figured out what I wanted to do with it. So it sits, neglected, on my hard drive... never published, alone and unfulfilled. Whoa... got carried away there!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:56)", "body": "It is easy enough to get carried away by programming. It consumes entire days and weeks without so much as serving meals! Then there is Yapp software... *sigh* That's what we use here. We have learned to love it - or, at least to co-exist with it."}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:59)", "body": "The best thing you can do - and the easiest is to go to this url and print it out. I use it ALL the time to check on stuff I don't do frequently. http://www.austen.com/tutorial/"}, {"response": 65, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (06:29)", "body": "Oh i wish you'd told me about this earlier, i've been floundering around for ages!!! (Yes, i know i've got too much to do to do new stuff right now, but I can't always study can I???)"}, {"response": 66, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (15:02)", "body": "You did not ask me how I learned...I would have told you! (Actually, I did not think of it...)"}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (22:16)", "body": "Home Page of AIDSride http://www.aidsride.org/home.asp NY Calendar http://www.gomachine.com/aidsride/calendar/nymonth.asp"}, {"response": 68, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (22:47)", "body": "yep... got those! you're a regular research whirling dervish!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (22:59)", "body": "That's me!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (09:11)", "body": "Well, the sun is out for the moment, the tempo is a whopping 50 degrees... I'm off to meet some cycling buddies for a ride before the NewEngland weather gods realize they've allowed the rain to stop. It's been so long since I rode except on the trainer I fear it will be much like my first day without training wheels... hope I don't fall down and go BOOM. See y'all later."}, {"response": 71, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (12:25)", "body": "Wear knee pads so if worse comes to worse, it will not hurt as much nor look as embarrassing. 50\ufffd outside? Sheesh, water freezes at 55\ufffd in Hawaii. Watch out for the slippery spots! Check back in and let us know how you did!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (11:27)", "body": "I looked at a new Schwinn ($350) at REI, any thoughts on this bike. Does anyone have any good urls of bike websites, particulary to descriptions of particular bikes that you like?"}, {"response": 73, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, May  1, 2000 (12:39)", "body": "I ride TREK. Unless I had the bucks for a custom build, I will buy TREK forever. And it was a TREK that Lance rode.... I find Schwinn to be expensive for what you get... and according to a bike shop owner of mine, they aren't the bike builders they once were."}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (23:36)", "body": "I can remember when Raleigh made the best bikes in the world. Are they still in business?"}, {"response": 75, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (19:31)", "body": "Raleigh... yep, it's still around ( http://www.raleighusa.com/ ). And they do still make a good product. You see a couple of their bikes show up in buyers guides every so often. I don't think they are \"best\" anymore, but still good."}, {"response": 76, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2000 (08:00)", "body": "House male swears by Claud Butler. We still have his 'original' in the shed! Mine's a common or garden chinese drop handle touring bike which has now been commandeered by daughter 2. High Wycombe is so hilly that I rarely venture out on a bike - it's too exhausting!"}, {"response": 77, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, May  8, 2000 (14:22)", "body": "peddle maggie, peddle... builds great legs and a fab butt ;-) especially hills. just spin those cranks!"}, {"response": 78, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May  9, 2000 (11:54)", "body": "Is that the Schwinn Moab Paul? You know I am a Specialized girl myself... try out a few different frames first!"}, {"response": 79, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May  9, 2000 (21:28)", "body": "I don't know what model, they had a bunch of them at REI, doesn't REI usually carry pretty good bikes?"}, {"response": 80, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (11:06)", "body": "depends... up here they sell lots of Scott cycles (company out of Boulder)... REI doesn't actually make the bikes so everything depends on what brands they carry. Schwinn is a well respected name (once again) but the model of the bike matters in so far as what type of riding you're planning on doing."}, {"response": 81, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (09:02)", "body": "The Schwinn looks good and it's priced right ($350) and it's a dirt road hybrid I believe. I went to a site Gena recommended and got some suggestions. First you choose the brands you like (which I don't know anything about, comments?) Cannondale Cignal Diamondback Fuji Gary Fisher Giant Iron Horse KHS Mongoose Nishiki Norco Raleigh Schwinn Specialized Trek Then it generates a list. 1 1999 Trek Navigator 200 (Mountain Mix) (Trek) Score: 100% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 2 1999 Fuji Silhouette (Hybrid Mix) (Akisu) Score: 92% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $400 Compare With Another Bike 3 1999 Trek Navigator 300 (Mountain Mix) (Trek) Score: 87% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Aluminum Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $440 Compare With Another Bike 4 1999 Fuji Nevada (Mountain Mix) (RST 261, 2.5\" travel) Score: 86% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type Front Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 5 1999 Fuji Palisade (Hybrid Mix) (Loyal Crown) Score: 84% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 6 1999 Fuji Cambridge (Hybrid Mix) (Loyal Crown) Score: 84% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $250 Compare With Another Bike 7 1999 Gary Fisher Zebrano (Mountain Mix) (Fisher) Score: 74% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Aluminum Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $430 Compare With Another Bike 8 1999 Fuji Del Rey (Hybrid Mix) (Akisu) Score: 69% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $400 Compare With Another Bike 9 1999 Gary Fisher Gitchie Gumee (Mountain Mix) (Fisher) Score: 67% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 10 1999 Peugeot Horizon (Hybrid Mix) (Chien Sing) Score: 66% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $430 Compare With Another Bike"}, {"response": 82, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (09:04)", "body": "It's on this longwinded url that I did this exercise: http://www007.personalogic.aol.com/pl/system/pl.qanda;qwgyKrRUM80mZYdUTQhPivKBBTciKuUz56xQxBL1qssg8Ee5mt1WrurJUzvoMXH6z6T6I1an_YOmFEvf63leBSBIGV_YctZn7dB2j_DV2RmrOEdQT9lAVCcAfv8xIu0xNvSDhZo0wRZ0JwL5NQQbi2eD96$jNDC3K3zqrJZn$VemNETcGG0CAvVB77uTTyXQa4L ."}, {"response": 83, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (09:14)", "body": "I may run by a couple of bike stores today and see if they stock this one. Want to see a really cool (but beyond my budget) bike? It's the Lance Armstrong Special Edition."}, {"response": 84, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (10:15)", "body": "yeah... ain't that one SWEET! I think the fram runs 2K, then if you outfit it with the components Lance uses you can get that price up around 6K (I think). I also like the 'Y' frame bikes. They have no seat tube... very cool looking and supposedly very fast."}, {"response": 85, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (14:09)", "body": "Terry, you gonna get the brain bucket and padding which is mandatory for such high tech gear?! Bike is Way too cool to be dodging traffic! There is something I really don't like abut riding around on something costing 6K and still getting rained on and mud flung onto me!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (14:31)", "body": "Like I say, that's just a picture for dreamers. I'm looking in the under $450 range which is why the $300 Trek came up."}, {"response": 87, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (15:56)", "body": "TREK makes a great bike Terry... I'd go with the TREK. But as Miz Marcia suggests, get a brain bucket to go with it, and maybe some toe clips (since its an offroad I wouldn't go clipins)."}, {"response": 88, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (16:22)", "body": "Good idea, to keep your head and feet intact. I haven't gone yet, a bunch of other stuff came up."}, {"response": 89, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (01:08)", "body": "I've been in clipless pedals on my MTB for four years now... there is no problem clipping out when you need to and the attachment when I'm riding helps my agility and technical abilities on the bike. The bike moves WITH you and where you'd like it to. Bunny hops are a breeze and hill climbing is MUCH easier when you are attached! Paul, while $300 is no vast sum, you should at least try some other frames. TREK cycles do not suit my build as well as Specialized (and Gary Fisher) frames do. KONA is a notorious \"taller person's\" frame... check that one out too. Also, if you find a frame that suits you almost perfectly you can always change out a stem or seat post to get that truly perfect fit. I want you to be as comfy as possible so you use it! BTW, I'm in SA right now. Be in Austin tomorrow a.m. perhaps I'll have time to hit Bicycle Sport with you this week. GREAT call Marcia on the lid... Always ride with that head protection!! Hope the training is going well Gena!"}, {"response": 90, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (09:48)", "body": "That would be great Stacey, hope to hook up with you tomorrow when you arrive in the Austin area. If you want to save on motel bills, you're welcome to stay at the guest room at the Quail house if you like."}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "Did you see Stacey??? No wonder Spring went down..........*sigh*"}, {"response": 92, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 23, 2005 (15:30)", "body": "Jim Birrell, race director for Tour of Georgia and the newly formed Tour of California, will be on Active Radio Wednesday, August 24, at 12pm (PDT), to discuss the ins and outs of directing cycling events. http://www.active.com/active/"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 23, 2005 (15:34)", "body": "Jim Birrell, and his partner, Chris Aronhalt, formed Medalist Sports in July 2004 to focus on marketing and directing premier cycling events. Birrell and Aronhalt have directed the Tour de Georgia since its inception in 2003 and are now spearheading the direction of the inaugural Tour of California slated for February 2006. With extensive backgrounds, both Jim Birrell and Chris Aronhalt have contributed to the successful execution of several national and international sporting events. Jim Birrell began his sports marketing career with the Tour of Texas, a multi-day professional cycling event in the early and mid 1980s. Building upon this experience in cycling, Birrell contributed to the management and growth of the Coors Classic, the largest and longest professional cycling event of its time in the United States."}, {"response": 94, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  9, 2005 (22:23)", "body": "Why go by bicycle? 15 good reasons..... 1. Remember when you first learned to ride a bike? Think back for a second. It's just as much fun now as it was then. 2. The bicycle is the most efficient form of transportation ever invented. 3. Half of all transit in the United States is six miles or less round trip, a distance easily made on a bicycle. 4. If you see someone you know while riding, it's easy to stop and say hello. Bicycles create public space, enhance street life and build a sense of community. 5. Ever go for a nice evening stroll down a busy street? Nope, too noisy. The occasional bicycle bell is nothing compared to the constant cacophony of car traffic. 6. There are no parking problems for bicyclists, nor are there parking fees or tickets. Lock your bike to parking meters rather than putting quarters in them. In the space one car takes up, twelve or more bicycles can be parked, which solves parking problems in densely-populated areas. 7. Americans spend 15 to 20 percent of their income on cars. If you ride a bike, not only can you skip car payments, but you can also skip insurance payments, maintenance, dmv stuff and stopping to pay for gas. Carsharing for occasional driving is becoming a more and more reasonable alternative. (A good new bicycle can cost as low as $250. No dmv, no insurance, no gas, very little maintenance.) 8. Millions of Americans want to lose weight, and yet they step into cars everyday, passing up the opportunity to exercise. In addition to weight loss, bicycling reduces the risk of heart attacks, strokes, diabetes and high blood pressure. Given the abysmal state of health care in the United States (which is partially due to the cost of treating well over 2 million car accident victims each year), self-prescribed preventative activity is a wise decision. 9. If you stand in a closed garage with a running car, you will die in a matter of minutes. Hundreds of thousands of cars in our cities create dirty, unhealthy air. 10. Terrorist organizations use our gas money. In order to protect political and corporate interests, the United States supports dictatorial regimes in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, which is the number one producer of oil in the world. 15 of the 19 September hijackers were Saudi. Iraq is the second largest producer of oil, and Kuwait the third. Do those countries sound familiar? The government supported Saddam through his worst atrocities, then Saddam began to disobey U.S. orders. That is precisely when he became our enemy. 11. In 2001, more than 3,000 Americans died of terrorism on our own home soil. In 2001, more than 43,000 Americans died in car crashes on our own home soil, and about 2,200,000 suffered disabling injuries. The American death toll of the Vietnam War, which lasted several years, is about 50,000. 12. States, counties and cities spend billions of dollars fixing roads that cars damage. A Honda Civic, a compact car, weighs about 2,500 pounds. That's about 100 times more than the average bicycle. A typical SUV weighs much more than a Civic, and does more damage to roads. Wear and tear on roads from bicycles is almost nonexistent. 13. Experts estimate that easily accessible oil (in other words, cheap oil) will run out around the year 2010. After cheap oil runs out, the price of gas will shoot up. The economic ramifications of this suggest that the sooner we accommodate oil free transportation into our daily lives the better. 14. Watch any tv show, listen to any radio program, look through any magazine or newspaper and you will come across ads showing how cars will make you cool, sexy, popular, respected, at one with nature, safe, etc. The car and oil industries spend billions of dollars each year to promote a benign image of driving, but the function of all this is to assure profits and manipulate consumers, and nothing more. 15. Staying closer to home to shop and do errands builds communication among residents, which promotes autonomy. This in turn leads to political, social and economic self-determination within communities. City hall ends up truly serving the needs of the residents because residents can tell city hall exactly what they want rather than city hall guessing at what they think would be best for the residents. Besides all this, if you factor in all the costs of driving to mega-warehouses, you end up paying more anyway. So try it. Go by bicycle. (Nowhere does this site intend to imply that bicycles are best for all travel. Sometimes the bicycle is impractical. However, this site does assert that drivers who decide to get on a bike or public transportation whenever possible rather than getting in a car will make the city a better place to live.) http://www.gobybicycle.com/"}, {"response": 95, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 27, 2006 (13:44)", "body": "My bike ride today http://tinyurl.com/9q5sn I found this cool app to figure out route distances today at http://www.webwalking.com/googlemap.htm It lets you draw your route on a google map and then it calculates the distance for you and saves the map. This was a nice ride, except the portion along Highway 71 and Highway 20 where the cars were going 70 mph in a 55 mph zone."}, {"response": 96, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:37)", "body": "Today I just did a few miles of cross country. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 15, "subject": "Team Leukemia", "response_count": 63, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (14:20)", "body": "Over 105,000 Americans fall victim to the ravages of Leukemia each year and an estimated 59,200 will die. Contributing money to help fund research for a cure is a powerful step towards \ufffdkicking cancer out the door\ufffd and a powerful step toward watching Gage grow and prosper. Please make checks payable to the Leukemia Society. I would greatly appreciate any size financial contribution but any good vibes you can send my way will be most welcome as well! (yea Marcia! Thank you for the inspiration and support!!)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (14:28)", "body": "Stacey, post that really good letter you sent me. Full of important things. BTW, I sent my check to your address. They had another listed in that letter. You might want to correct it...or not. But, I really think it is worth posting. This is very important stuff and it is not just children who die from it - mom's and some very important older thinkers have also. We cannot afford to let this disease go unchallenged any longer! Please support Stacey's efforts. Yea Stacey! Anything I can do for you I will =)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (11:02)", "body": "Fundraising is going pretty well now... Thank you Marcia for the donation! Training has hit that difficult point where progress in speed and endurance are minimal over short periods of time. I knew to expect the lull and I'm trying to literally run through it. Tomorrow is my early a.m. team workout -- a speed strength training from 6-7am at a local high school. Gage is doing 'okay' I haven't been able to talk to him for awhile."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (18:41)", "body": "Another month has passed, Stacey...how near to your fund-raising goal are you? and how many walls are you still hitting? Are you really going to run a marathon?!."}, {"response": 5, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (19:16)", "body": "thanks for asking... pretty far off still... I've got about a thouseand raised... a few thousand left to go... running wise I feel pretty on target I ran an easy eight miles yesterday with another TNT member... it was nice and comfortable and no knee soreness today at all... yes, yes, I am..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (20:01)", "body": "Sounds like we need to get the PR going. You have just till Dec 4th to raise the needed funds?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (11:16)", "body": "December 1st... and yes, I'm in the process of writing a letter to the CEO of our company to try and get some corporate sponsorship..."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (12:24)", "body": "I am not sure how we can go about importuning the people at the Spring, but I am willing to entertain your thoughts on the subject. Keep us appraised of your progress so we know how much to worry."}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (12:34)", "body": "I think it'll probably reslt in my filming a table dance and posting it on the Spring Cam for contributions!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:20)", "body": "OH MY !!! (I thought we were trying to stay out of trouble...!)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:21)", "body": "(...want me to dance with you?)"}, {"response": 12, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (15:47)", "body": "sure!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (12:21)", "body": "money still trickling in... my training is going well cross training since I hurt my knee again on the 11th. 14 miles trail running on Saturdays, off Sundays, cycling Mondays, 3miles Tuesdays, cycling Wednesdays, 3 miles Thursdays and either 4 miles running or a long cycling stint on Fridays... weight/strength training on my left leg to fix that knee issue... This Sunday I'll spice things up a bit by doing the Race for the Cure!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (19:30)", "body": "good luck, dear...let us know how you do, and more importantly, how your knee does."}, {"response": 15, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (10:01)", "body": "the knee is feeling really fine *knocking on wood* I've been doing the strengthing exercises for awhile and really stretching well afterwards to keep good circulation up around that area especially. And with the arch inserts I've been relatively pain free!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (19:42)", "body": "Nothing is worse than shin-splints...well, there really are worse things, but they really hurt. Glad the arch supports work for you...they are in my shoes I hike in and ones in which I play tennis. (No, I'm not out there running, and if I took off too many more inches I would disappear!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (10:18)", "body": "had a GREAT 10 mile run in the very cold on Saturday and then did the Race FOr the Cure on Sunday. Sunday was quite the emotional experience... The race, for those who are unfamiliar, is the race to find a cure for breast cancer. Denver is now the 2nd largest Race for the Cure with over 40 THOUSAND people running! MOst have been directly affected by the disease, many are survivors and many have lost loved ones to breast cancer. All are running in celebration or in memory of someone with the disease or are running to help fund finding that cure. THe race is also about awareness. Check your breasts ladies... AND MEN! Breast cancer is NOT just a woman's disease... A real feel good and feel deeply event. I cried more than once just overwhelmed by the depth and strength and togetherness of it all..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "Sounds terrific. Indeed, men do get it and can die from it just as women have...I know several survivors of this affliction, and I am checked with great regularity. My oldest sister had it and they got all of it with surgery what they did not get was the part that had spread to the brain...that is what killed her. Terrible stuff! Thanks for doing your part!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (00:37)", "body": "OK sent you and Terry checks - they actually go in the mail tomorrow. I shall confirm this with Email but I wish there was some way to get out the money for you and get you to this most important goal"}, {"response": 20, "author": "firasona", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (06:49)", "body": "hi mariciah how are u i loved u more plz send me at fmas@hugkiss.com"}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "I just did...but you must tell us by which of your names we should address you. Do you like to be called Diego, Armando or Firsona? It makes conversations with you more personal and friendly. Thank you!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov  6, 1999 (11:46)", "body": "Thanks Marcia!!! {big hug}"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov  6, 1999 (16:06)", "body": "(Big Hug to you, too) Please let me know when / if they arrive."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov  6, 1999 (19:18)", "body": "I certainly shall! Thanks so much."}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (12:04)", "body": "Thanks Marcia! I'm not sure when the check arrived but I arrived home yesterday and it was there! I'm still WAY short on funds so calling all potential Team Leukemia Supporters... please consider donating to the Leukemia Society... a MOST worthy organization"}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (12:10)", "body": "Thanks, Stacey! We should get out on Porch and make a pitch for this. Leukemia is no respecter of age or status. It is NOT just a childhood affliction, and even if it were, that alone is enough to garner support, one would think. Thinking how to get support (I am perilously short of good ideas at the moment!)"}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (11:26)", "body": "Saturday was the biggest run before the marathon... now I start tapering. My running buddy and I ran a fairly swift 20.6 miles. I took an OTC anti-inflammatory before the run and I was pain free all during. A lot of stiffness Sunday but no joint pain and I feel great today! This was an real accomplishment especially in the emotional sense... six more miles is inconsequential!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (15:17)", "body": "Excellent news...and I gather you also did not throw up. Always happy to hear good things when I have seen some tragic things at the Ironman Triathlon. It sounds like you did all your prep work right, and I am really proud of your accomplishment. A marathon is always against yourself, is it not? (Unless you are one of those pro runners who go from one event to the next all year.) Take a bow, Dear *applause*"}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (16:28)", "body": "I'll curtsie (sp?) today (wearing a skirt)... Thanks for the kudos Marcia... I am rather impressed with my conditioning at this point. Nope, no vomiting. In fact, when we finished, I really thought I could go on for awhile longer... a good sign to be sure! The soreness is to be expected, running long distances is simply fatiguing on your body... Woo WOO!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (16:59)", "body": "Takes about a week to fully recover from an Triathlon, so I know it will be a few days before you are fit again. Besides, what a lovely excuse (if one were needed) to have Brandon rub and massage you all over...even in places not involved with the actual run?! (Is it pronounced Tih NEE ahn ov ... or TIH nee ahn ov...or Tih nee AHN ov...or some other way?)"}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (11:14)", "body": "Tin yawn ov... I ran 3.5 miles yesterday and everything feels great again!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "stressed on the \"yawn\"...? Thanks (I like to say it in my mind the right way) Great news about your being in such fit order. Watch out Honolulu!!!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 17, 1999 (09:32)", "body": "The only condition I haven't trained in (but have been told to expect) is rain..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 17, 1999 (13:23)", "body": "You will probably start at 5am. At that hour we get gentle warm makai showers drifting mauka (off-the-ocean showers drifting toward the mountains). Enjoy it. The sun comes up just a little while later and it gets more humid until the sun burns off the residual rain. Unless we have a storm front coming through (always a possibility in December) your rain will not last long. You will experience our soft, warm gentle \"pineapple mist\" which we call 'dust control\"."}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 17, 1999 (13:28)", "body": "BTW, There are several updating Hawaiian weather maps in Geo (or News since some people find Geo unfriendly or something...How unfriendly can a place be when Wolfie scans her latest jewelry and we discuss our collection of goodies?!) Anyway, you can scroll back to find them but you will have to get out of telnet to do it, of course! I should think wet shoes would be the biggest problem causing blisters."}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec  9, 1999 (16:50)", "body": "For all the scoop on this event - The Honolulu Marathon's official website: http://www.honolulumarathon.org/"}, {"response": 37, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec  9, 1999 (18:11)", "body": "As many of you are aware, I leave tomorrow morning to participate in the Honolulu marathon. I am running to raise money for the Leukemia Society. Thank you to those of you who have supported me with encouragement and kind words. A special thanks to those of you who have donated money to the Leukemia Society to help fund the finding of a cure for this disease. Although I am still shy of my fundraising goal of $4200 by a considerable amount, the money seems trivial compared with the news I received today. Gage Risley, my seven year-old patient honoree, is in Children's Hospital in Denver right now and will have a bone marrow transplant tomorrow morning. He has gone through seven days of chemotherapy to eradicate good and bad cells from his body and hopefuly the new marrow he receives tomorrow will produce new cancer free cells to replace the old. Gage has not been responding well to treatment and the marrow transplant is a last resort. Please keep Gage and his family in your thoughts... Again, thank you to all of you who have contributed to making other more aware of this disease and to help find a cure. If you care to make a tax deductible contribution to the Leukemia Society, or know someone who would, please send checks (made payable to The Leukemia Society) to me at: Stacey Tinianov 5864 S Huron St Littleton, CO 80120 Thanks, Stace"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (17:38)", "body": "Does this look familiar, Stace? It is the fireworks at the beginning of the Honolulu Marathon (which you just might have been too preccupied to have seen) The rain isn't as apparent in this view of things. I heard on the local news this morning that 2400 participants were running for Leukemia research. Excellent!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (17:41)", "body": "Note the bottom of the picture there are two wide bands with a narrow band running up the midddle of it...That is Ala Moana Boulevard and those are all of the runners at the start of the race. The median strip is being used as race stations for various needs. It is a great shot! Where's Waldo? Where's Satcey??"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (17:44)", "body": "uhoh...I'm in BIG trouble - mistyped her name. Where's Stacey?!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (17:50)", "body": "Here she is!!! Official Results Stacey Tinianov #10113 of Littleton CO, USA Time: 05:19:19 Overall: 8,442 Gender: 2,239 Women Division: 535 (age 26)"}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (18:06)", "body": "BTW, there were 26,724 entries and of those 21,156 finished the race. Hearty congratulations to all who participated and a new appreciation for Stacey's finish in her first Marathon. Brava! (All of this information plus lots of photos are available at the official web site"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (18:10)", "body": "Check out all of the photos, trivia and stats: Honolulu Marathon"}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (18:15)", "body": "Here's what it took to run last year's marathon: 1,950,000 cups 125,000 pounds of ice cubes (63.5 tons) 175,000 Mother's Oatmeal cookies 70,000 sponges 30,000 crisp apples 8,000 bottles of Amino Vital 1,000 hot dogs with chili & rice 10.1 acres of tents (444,400 sq. feet) 3,215 feet of television cables 7,550 feet of communication lines 7,750 feet of electrical cables 14,850 feet of rope/plastic barriers 2,670 feet of flagging tape 1,420 feet of steel wire rope rigging 465 portable toilets 4,500 rolls of toilet paper two 20-foot urinals 9,500 33-gallon trash bags 220,000 small safety pins 10,100 feet of red nylon fencing 7,500 feet of 30-ply string 775 fencing posts 800 feet of steel tie wire 800 pieces of nylon tie-wrap one 150-foot single span, 12-ton bridge 2 electrically powered trucks from HECO 55 vans & trucks - from pick-up to semi-trailer 9 Conex containers 665 eight-foot tables 650 folding chairs 4 sets of bleachers 12 man-lifts 6 snorkel boom trucks 2 announcer towers 310 off-duty police officers & 35 solo bikers 185 full-size buses 396 banners/signage of various sizes 35 11-foot-tall mile/kilometer markers 1 large double-faced race clock for Finish 22 medium-size race clocks for the course 60 telephones 12 fax machines 180 medical cots 129 posts for the Finish Line chute 20 international flags 800 sq. feet of plush Finish Line carpeting 12,000 sq. feet of plastic sheeting 3,350 rolls of film, 36 exposures each 12 massive trash dumpsters 18 portable photo stands 5 portable electrical generators 3,750 traffic cones 2,125 flasher barricades 450 delineators 18 arrow boards on trailers 8 electronic message boards on trailers 2,325 No Parking signs 125 traffic signs 22 floodlights 3 searchlights 9,452 volunteers"}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (19:12)", "body": "Here is the official photograph which shows more of the 26,000+ entrants massed at the start of the event. Her finishing photo will not be available for view until December 22nd (I will keep the url a secret if you wish, Stace!)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "Woo Woo! We finished! And no, you cannot tell how WET it was out there... pouring, pouring, pouring the whole time! I ran with my running buddy and she was very conservative with her energy at the start... it was her first one so certianly understandable... but by the end, she agreed with me... tis better to run a bit faster and not have to spend so damn long out there on the course! We had a blast, especially tromping around in the mud at the finish! The sun finally came out yesterday so I spent the day at the beach... slept in the plane overnight and arrived home this a.m. just before 10. Tired, tired, tired... Oh, BTW, the answer to the Where's Stacey? pic... she was still in line for the Porto-Let when the fireworks were going off! Thanks for all the publicity Marcia and I'd LOVE to know what the url for finishing pics is! Haven't gotten an update on Gage yet, I'll post here when I do..."}, {"response": 47, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (16:16)", "body": "Welcome back to the cold world out there. Delighted to know you were so successful and had a great time. I did not do any rain dances so I am not sure who is responsible for that rain, but today it is sunny here and I am happy to see it. Now you understand why we have a mildew problem in Paradise! I will email you the url for that photo page ... it just might not be something you want everyone to see...!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (19:06)", "body": "looking like hell after 26.2 miles sure wouldn't embarass me... post at will!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (19:41)", "body": "Everybody loves you already - you clean up real good, as they say. I will still pass it by you first...! Or put in the conference where people stand on the corners of our towels hoping to expose us and good stuff like that?! *Hugs* for accomplishing something I never will and at an age I had only an infant geologist to show for my efforts."}, {"response": 50, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (19:44)", "body": "Come to think of it, if you did not look like hell after 26.2 miles of running, you would be highly suspect! Are you into triathlon stuff?"}, {"response": 51, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (10:42)", "body": "I've done one mini-tri (the Danskin) but I think more would be fun. My big obstacles with triathlons are: I am not a strong swimmer, I don't like cold water! I may do another mini-tri this August in Boulder when the weather is warm but I'll probably do another marathon for Team Leukemia first -- Steamboat Springs in June!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (10:44)", "body": "today I'm mentally psyched to do more but in reality my body needs a bit of a rest... a couple weeks of easy exercise before bumping up the training again. in February I'd be ready for another but that's Brandon's big month (the Iditabike in Alaska) and there are really no endurance running events here in the month of February"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (13:53)", "body": "The water in Kona is about 75\ufffdF (23.8 C)... you get all wizzled before you get chilled! I did not realize there was an Iditabike. Do dogs pull his bike instead of a sled?! (Please, hold the rotten tomatoes!)"}, {"response": 54, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (13:58)", "body": "*grin* he's probably gonna wish dogs were pulling his bike by the end! 48 hour time limit, 100 miles of ice biking... I'm gonna be hanging out in Big Lake with some rented snowshoes I think!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (18:22)", "body": "At least when you have dogs with you and you are freezing you can sleep with them. It has to be cold comfort with a bicycle for a snuggling companion on the arctic ice. I was complaining about being too warm today. I think it is feeling much better after thinking of all that cold darkness. Make sure your snowshoes come with cleats!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (18:49)", "body": "Just checked your finisher photographs (there are 3) and you are just adorable. I would be happy starting out on the race course looking that fine. Just wanted you to know you are now famous and I have your pix saved on my computer just in case Y2K eats them elsewhere!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (11:20)", "body": "*grin* I saw them finally... they mailed me proofs!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "You are totally adorable and not even stringy-haired or sweaty. Stacey, I am tired of your being gorgeous all the time. Just lucky you are irresistable otherwise or I'd really be feeling hostile about now. Now, go blow that green gunk out of your sinuses and join the rest of us mortals!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (17:35)", "body": "thanks for all the complimenting... my hair WAS stringy... you just can't tell from those pictures! the snot has formed a solid block in my sinuses... won't come out no matter how much hot tea and water I drink!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (18:52)", "body": "Nope...breathe over a steaming kettle with some menthol in it. Hate to suggest nose drops or decongestants at this point, but you might like to relieve some of that pressure before it backs up into your ears!!! *healing hugs* (Sorry, but with that smile on your face I did not notice strings or anything - just your radiant happiness. Incredible!)"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan  5, 2000 (18:36)", "body": "Have you heard how much Team Leukemia raised for Leukemia Research? We need to applaud your efforts! How's that snotty cold of your doing? Gone, I hope!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (17:43)", "body": "Congrats again! I admire you very much for what you achieved, Stacey. But I seem to remember I told you that. I'm not sure, tho - now I am. ;=} Against the sinus blockage: You want to inhalate salt water to loosen up that stuff. Boiling hot water in a pot, pour much salt in it, towel over it, and your head beneath that towel. (Uh, don't dip that pretty face in the hot water, that makes autsch, so they say...) Inhalate as long as you can take it. Take a break. Go at it again. Be environmentally friendly: have B. recycle the concoction as cooking water for some really good italian pasta (Buitoni). As we all know, the wheat stuff pasta is made from contains the same stuff that's in chocolate which creates the release of all these beautiful endorphines. My favorite cold remedy - heisser Grog, a northern or sailors drink. Very hot water in a mug, some nice rum in it (=a load). A little sugar if you like. Stir. Drink while hot (but don't scorch yer throat). Move towards sleeping facility, crash & enjoy a night of restful sleep. You feel up to any heroic deed the next morning (at least I always do). I don't need to mention vitamins. Since you are such a sports person, you know what a glass of fresh fruit juice works (wonders, that is - just in case you forgot). With all good wishes, A."}, {"response": 63, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (16:13)", "body": "thank you! The cold faded very quickly and oddly enough it was B who suffered through weeks of congestion. No word on Gage still... fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 16, "subject": "Hiking", "response_count": 65, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 17, 2000 (18:08)", "body": "This is My Sport. The King of All Sports, to me. If you want to see nature and the glory of what is Earth, get out into the wild and hike somewhere. Go prepared and take your time. Always let someone know where you are going. If you will be gone overnight and plan on packing in a tent, here's a tip for you: How To Secure Tents And Tarps With Ripped Eyelets If an eyelet rips out of the corner of your tent or tarp and you need to tie it back down, cutting a new hole in the fabric and attempting to secure it with rope will usually result in more ripped fabric or a larger hole in the tent. Instead, take a small stone, pine cone or any other rounded object, wrap the fabric around it and pinch the fabric tight around the bottom of the object. Now take your rope and tie it around the outside of the object so that the object stays wrapped inside of the fabric. Cinch the rope tight and you have secured the tarp. This works because the stone wrapped in fabric gives the rope a place to tie around, similar to a ship's mooring, that is likely stronger than the tarp's original eyelets. And in high winds, securing your tarps this way can prevent the eyelets from tearing out and damaging your tent or tarp."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 17, 2000 (18:12)", "body": "Another thought: Pillows Some people can't sleep without their pillows. For this reason, there are many different types of inflatable pillows on the market that are self-inflating and easy to deflate. Some of us don't like inflatable pillows however. There are other options. One hiker I know adds a small couch pillow to her pack.Another has a small down pillow. Most people who hike are not the type to need three or four pillows to sleep, and of course smaller is better in your pack. If you have a small pillow on your couch, see how that feels under your head and how it fits in your pack before you go buy anything special for your trip."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 17, 2000 (18:17)", "body": "There are as many reason for hiking as there are hikers. Landscape artist hike to get a new vista, perspective or just to refresh their artistic senses. Naturalists hike to see what is new and growing. Geologists hike to enjoy the very structures on which they hike, and to appreciate new views of old scenery. I hike for all of the above - there is nothing out there not to enjoy. Take your water and sunblock and hit the trail. I can see 500 new acres of dry land Kilauea has created since the last eruption began. It is ongoing, it builds little mountains and it is like a changing topographic map each time I hike in."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (12:23)", "body": "Keeping Clothes And Food Dry When embarking on extended backpacking trips, especially to wet climates, pack all of your belongings in gallon-sized Ziploc bags. If the climate is especially wet, purchase a waterproof cover for your backpack or cover the backpack with a plastic garbage bag. When setting up camp, tie an angled tarp between some trees to create a dry area for stowing backpacks and gear that does not fit into the tents or their vestibules. Finally, bring plenty of cord to tie clotheslines for drying out soaked clothing."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (12:31)", "body": "Careful On The Boulders If your hike leads you over boulders, don't assume that just because they look firmly attached to the ground that they are. Even a large rock can move when the weight of a person is on it. If you have to hike over the boulders, put your feet down carefully. Go slowly and test the footing before trusting your full weight to it. Skipping from boulder to boulder like a mountain goat is something they only do in movies without anyone getting hurt."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (13:40)", "body": "Glass Containers Don't take any glass containers with you on a hiking or camping trip. Not only is it heavier in your pack, but it could break and you would have a difficult time finding a safe way to pack it back out in your garbage. This includes glasses to drink from, glass cookware, glass jars, or glass juice bottles. Repackage those items at home, or better yet, buy items in plastic or waxed cardboard containers."}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (13:41)", "body": "Leave The Tent Doors Open In Bear Country When camping in bear country and not staying at your campsite all day, it's a good idea to open all of the doors on your tent. If a bear comes to your site and is remotely interested in anything in your tent, they will make a door to investigate if one is not readily open for them, severely damaging your tent. Chances are if you leave the door open, the bear may rummage around briefly in the tent or just take a peek inside, causing little or no damage to the tent. Finally, remain diligent about bagging anything with an odor (food, tobacco, deodorant, toothpaste, etc.) and don't give a bear any reason to be interested in your tent."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (14:33)", "body": "Use A Ground Cloth With Your Tent Tents are rarely set up in areas free of sharp sticks and/or stones. To protect the bottom of your tent, set your tent up on a ground cloth. Ground cloths can be purchased in various shapes and sizes and some tent manufacturers specifically make ground cloths for their line of tents. If you can't find a ground cloth to fit your tent, place your tent on a tarp or some plastic sheeting and fold the sides underneath the tent. Finally, you can make a custom ground cloth for your tent from plastic sheeting by cutting out a slightly smaller footprint of your tent."}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (14:34)", "body": "Burning Other Items In Your Fire Some plastic package wrapping can be burned up completely in your campfire, but thicker plastic won't burn up. Other items typically thrown in a campfire include cigarettes, hygiene products like toilet paper, food cans, and coffee bags. Anything that doesn't burn up completely in the fire has to be packed out. Just because it's a campfire doesn't mean it's the place for your garbage. So if you're burning those cans to get rid of the food remnants in them, remember you'll have to take them out when the fire has died."}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (15:25)", "body": "This is bad news for those who used this as a stain repellent on their outdoor gear. GOOD BYE SCOTCHGARD The 3M company has agreed to phase out the use of perfluorooctanyl sulfate-type chemistry in its products including one of its most popular items, Scotchgard. When sprayed on fabrics, Scotchgard helps prevent stains by repelling dirt, oil and water. But researchers have found that the chemicals used to make the product tend to build up on living tissue. PFOS technology is also used in a variety of other ways -- from firefighting foam to coating on paper packaging. The company says it will develop alternatives to PFOS chemistry, even though the Environmental Protection Agency says there is no clear evidence that PFOS actually cause any danger to humans. Charles Auer, the head of the EPA's chemical control division, told HealthSCOUT, \"The bigger issue is what might have happened in the future if the company had continued to use the stuff.\" Auer says 3M's own studies showed PFOS \"was persistent in environmental organisms like fish and birds,\" and that 3M was surprised to find PFOS in the blood of people \"in such a widespread manner.\" However, 3M medical director Dr. Larry Zobel says \"there is no health effect\" as a result of the presence of PFOS in human blood, and the company is not recommending that consumers who already have Scotchgard in the home should throw it out."}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (14:32)", "body": "A Mountain Zone Site The Mountain Zone's About Hiking site, located at http://www.abouthiking.com/ , is a great site for information and articles. The site has articles featuring various hiking locations, specific trails, photos from some of the featured hiking areas, discussions of equipment, and a page where you can tell your hiking stories or read about the experiences of other hikers. You can even shop for gear on the site. This is a good site for any hiker to visit regularly."}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (14:33)", "body": "Learn To Recognize The North Star Learning to recognize Polaris, the north star, is a valuable asset when traveling in the wilderness. There is no more reliable way to locate true north when traveling north of the equator. Polaris can be easily located by following an imaginary line drawn through the two stars that form the end of the Big Dipper's ladle. Should you find yourself lost in the wilderness, the north star can lead you in the right direction. Knowledge of the north star's location has saved many lives, and should be passed on to all who travel in the wilderness."}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (16:25)", "body": "Timing Your Trip Many hikers like to plan their hikes not only around the best period of weather for a particular hiking area, but around natural events as well. Likewise, if you're looking to miss the crowds, you'll want to think about hiking during a less-popular season. For example, some hikers like to schedule their hikes for when the dogwood trees are blooming, or when the prairie is in flower, and so forth. But there are other things you can plan for as well that will make your trip a special one. Plan your hike for the full moon, or for a significant date. This can make your trip a memorable one. The full moons you can look up on almost any good calendar, and the other events, such as when something is in bloom, you can simply call ahead to the park to ask about. Browse the archives http://www.emazing.com/archives/hiking"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (16:26)", "body": "What To Do If Your Canoe Capsizes Most canoes will not sink if they capsize, but they will fill with water and become very difficult to maneuver. If your canoe capsizes in deep water, try to find someone to help you tow it back to shore. If the canoe capsizes in shallow water (water you can stand in), you may be able bail the water out of the canoe. When a canoe capsizes on a river, keep the canoe downstream if possible. The weight of a canoe filled with water and pushed by a river's current could easily crush you if you get caught between the canoe and some rocks. Finally, when a canoe capsizes on a larger body of water and no one can come to your aid, use the submerged canoe as a flotation device and slowly guide the canoe back to shore where you can bail it out."}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (13:01)", "body": "Pack A Sewing Kit When a pack's zipper blows out, some important clothing rips, or the tent fly rips, basic sewing skills along with a pocket sewing kit can temporarily repair the damage until your trip is complete. Supplement the sewing kit with some four- or six-pound test fishing line. Much stronger than thread, fishing line will survive more wear and tear until you can properly repair the damage. Finally, pack several sizes of needles. A regular sewing needle may not be sturdy enough to sew through canvas, leather, and other heavier materials. Marcia's note: I always carry unwaxed dental floss and a little beeswax for these repairs. Some are still holding years later. That fishing line can be hard to knot and make the knots hold."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (13:08)", "body": "If you're having difficulty finding people to hike with, consider joining a local hiking club. Almost every city has one, usually listed in a local paper under sports, hobbies, or extracurricular activities. The local club in my area has everyone gather at the same place, then take a van to the trailhead. After hiking the trail, they often discuss the hike over dinner somewhere. They even plan for longer hiking trips at more distant trails for those who are interested, so you may even make friends for hiking vacations. The fees are usually minimal, generally just enough to pitch in for gas. And if your area doesn't have a hiking club, consider starting one yourself with an ad in the paper."}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 26, 2000 (14:14)", "body": "A few quotes from Henry David Thoreau, who understood our connection to nature: -\"In wildness is the preservation of the world.\" -\"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived.\" -\"Nature is full of genius, full of the divinity; so that not a snowflake escapes its fashioning hand.\" -\"Heaven is under our feet as well as over our heads.\" -\"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, how ever measured or far away.\""}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 26, 2000 (14:16)", "body": "Care Of Gortex Garments Gortex garments, like any other piece of camping gear, need maintenance over time. With Gortex garments, the outer nylon can begin to absorb water, leaving you cold and inhibiting Gortex's capacity to breathe. To wash and restore the water repellant characteristics to the nylon in Gortex garments, try using a wash treatment specifically designed for that fabric. TX Direct, a product made by Nikwax, works well for this purpose. If you tear the Gortex, do not try to repair or sew it. Send the garment back to the manufacturer for repair. A small tear can be temporarily secured with a piece of duct tape, but check the manufacturer's warranty first, since this may void the warranty."}, {"response": 19, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (16:50)", "body": "This is truly foreign territory for me! Only hiking I've ever done is country walks. Never been camping, ever! Real townie, me. (Well, cept in Africa, but that's different!)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (18:15)", "body": "The gentleman for whom I created this topic has actually hiked 40 miles in one day. Far beyond anything I could ever do. But, I am not built like he is *grin*"}, {"response": 21, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (18:20)", "body": "Sheeesh unimaginable. I did 10-20 miles a day in Switzerland in my teens, but not now!!!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (18:32)", "body": "Carrying your 65 pounds of survival gear, too? Not sure how long my longest was but over 10 miles for sure."}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (18:34)", "body": "He was trailmaster and as such I suppose it was necessary to check the safety of them by hiking every step. I also know a guy who was a ranger on Mt Lassen Nat'l Park and he hiked every inch of those trails almost daily for years. I wonder about David's longest hike....Pretty far doing flow-front duty, I would imagine!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (18:39)", "body": "nope no survival gear, just day sacks. We only rambled foothills near Zermatt."}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (18:54)", "body": "You mean you did wear a dirndl and run around singing ala Julie Andrews? I rather fancied you that way..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2000 (06:51)", "body": "Well, actually, yes I did once but not in Switzerland - and I've got the medal somewhere to prove it! Did the Bronze Medal exam at the Duke of Wellington's house in Hyde Park!!!! (now what else are you going to drag out of me I wonder??) T wants to do the Pennine way - you can go with him, and I'll stay home in the warm!!! I wouldn't mind doing some of Hadrians Wall though - in Summer."}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2000 (13:49)", "body": "The South Downs call me but off the track it is so conjested there. I just might take him up on the Pennine way. I have a lovely book I got in Britain with all the hikes around UK - especially England. Think I'd pass on the Grampians or the Caringorms (unless I could bring a nice huck of it back with me *grin*)"}, {"response": 28, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2000 (14:06)", "body": "The walking here in the chilterns is nearly all down lanes - dangerous! There is SO much private land and where we used to walk with the kids you can't walk now. Sure, take T off walking - anywhere! I'll stay and paint - and have hot soup (or cool drinks) waiting for your return.!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (04:18)", "body": "How To Sweeten Your Water Supply When camping in the wilderness, if your only water supply is somewhat stagnant (water collected from a swamp or a small pond), it may be desirable to sweeten the water before drinking it. First, bring the water to a boil. Next, drop a few pieces of charred hardwood from the campfire into the pot and simmer for approximately 15 to 20 minutes. Skim away the foreign matter and either allow the solids to settle or filter through a cloth. Sweetening the water should eliminate any unpleasant tastes and/or odors associated with stagnant water."}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun  5, 2000 (14:56)", "body": "The Solar Recharger Taking your cell phone camping is probably a good idea. Unfortunately, there are not many places with power for a wall wart out in the middle of the great outdoors. This gadget helps out. The Solar Recharge is a small solar cell that can power a 3-volt device or recharge most newer, small cellular phones. Remember that full sun is required and that a full charge can take 12 hours. Two rechargeable AA batteries are included as well. The Solar Recharge is available from Hammacher-Schlemmer at (800) 543-3366 or on the web at http://www.hammacher.com ."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun  6, 2000 (22:10)", "body": "How To Build A Fire Pit The wilderness is no place to build a fire pit, but if you want to build one at home here's how. -First, dig a hole in the ground where you want the fire pit. Size the hole depending on the size of the fire pit you want. For most fire pits, a hole one foot deep and three feet in diameter will suffice. -Next, line the bottom and sides of the hole with flat rocks. The rock-lined pit provides an excellent surface for shoveling out ashes, will support the logs better, and helps the fire burn hotter. -Finally, place larger rocks in a ring around the top of the hole. One final note: Never use rocks from rivers and lakes. They have absorbed water and can explode when heated."}, {"response": 32, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun  7, 2000 (11:11)", "body": "Wow, good tip on the exploding rocks."}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun  7, 2000 (19:15)", "body": "Yeah - is there any other place you can think of to post that? Gonna put in Geo 1 since most people read what I post in there. Removing A Fishhook From The Skin Here's a quick and somewhat painless way to remove a stuck fishhook from your skin. First, loop a piece of string or heavy fishing line around the bend of the hook and loop the other end around your fingers. Next, have a second person push down on the eye and bend of the hook to disengage the barb from the skin. Finally, jerk the string making sure the string lies flat against the skin and is aligned along the long axis of the hook. Incredibly, when done right, the hook will come free easily and without pain. Please note: If you fish with Berkley \"Goldpoint\" hooks, the barbs are on the outside of the hook point. Instead of pushing down, pull up to disengage the barb and pull up and out with the string to remove the hook."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "Packaging Meals For Extended Camping Trips When packaging meals for an extended camping or wilderness trip, try to pack each meal in its own large Ziploc bag. Pack everything the meal will include except for basic staples, such as bread. Pre-packaging each meal on an extended trip makes meal preparation easier when you're in the wilderness and can prevent inadequate rationing of food, since each meal has its own Ziploc bag. Finally, label each bag so you know what meal the food is for and try to pack the bags in the order they will be used."}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (20:26)", "body": "Tip For Lacing Your Boots When lacing your hiking boots, one of the primary objectives is to prevent the laces from loosening while you're hiking. Here's a couple of quick ways to prevent the laces from slipping once tied. Hiking boots usually have several sets of eyes that lead up from the toe of the boot to the ankle, followed by hooks to secure the boot around the ankles. Lace the eyes as you normally would, but at the last set of eyes before the hooks, bring the laces back through the opposite eye a second time. When you cinch the laces tight around the ankle, the double-laced eyes generate enough friction on the laces to hold the laces tighter. Next, lace the hooks of the boot; but instead of coming up under the bottom of the hook, lace over the top of the hook around to the bottom creating a triangle around the hook. The extra friction created will keep the laces from slipping and keep the boots snug around your ankles."}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (19:39)", "body": "Seam Seal Your Tent If you've ever been sleeping in your tent and find yourself being awakened by water dripping on your face, or worse yet you're laying in a puddle, you will wish you had taken the time to properly seam seal your tent. Seal every seam that is exposed to weather and each seam the manufacturer recommends you seal. Here are a few tips. -Before seam sealing your tent, determine which side of the fabric to seal. Sealant will adhere best to the side of the material that is not coated. You can test this by observing which side of the material best repels water. That is likely the coated side. -If you are applying a liquid sealer, apply two coats. If applying a tube-type sealer, one coat should suffice. Allow the sealant to dry for 24 hours before using the tent. -Once the sealant has dried, test the tent underneath a sprinkler for a couple of hours. Locate any missed leaks and re-seal them after the tent has dried."}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (22:16)", "body": "Carbon Build Up On Camp Cookware It's easy to prevent build up of carbon on your cookware while cooking over campfires by \"soaping\" the cookware. To \"soap\" your cookware, apply a thin layer of dish soap to the outside of the pot or pan immediately before cooking. Now you're ready to cook your food. When the cooking is finished and you're ready to clean the cookware, you'll find that the carbon adheres to the dish soap and easily wipes off the pot. Reapply the dish soap each time before you cook and your cookware will continue to look shiny and new."}, {"response": 38, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (06:13)", "body": "Do I assume 'dish soap' is British 'washing up liquid'??? (i.e. runny stuff not solid) - sorry I DO try ..."}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (13:41)", "body": "Yes, it is, as opposed to dishWASHER liquid or laundry liquid"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (17:55)", "body": "Eliminating Insects From Your Tent A quick and easy way to eliminate insects from your tent is to fog the interior with an insect fogger (bug bomb) prior to sleeping. About 15 minutes before you go to sleep, close all the entrances to your tent and fog the interior. After about 10 minutes, open the tent flaps, but keep the tent screen closed to allow fresh air into the tent. When you're ready to go to sleep, enter the tent as quickly as possible and remove any insects that may have snuck in as you entered the tent."}, {"response": 41, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (17:00)", "body": "Would insect spray do just as well? I don't know what a bug bomb or insect fogger is."}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (17:44)", "body": "If you use a fogger let it air throughly. They sell them to do your garden in the evening so you can stand to sit out without being feasted upon by every mosquito in the county!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (18:11)", "body": "When The Weather Unexpectedly Changes When traveling outdoors, if the weather unexpectedly changes, your first priority is to seek shelter. Depending on the climate you're traveling in, this can mean anything from trees, to caves, or snow caves. If you are traveling on the water, you can navigate through a minor storm. However, in high winds or at the first sign of lightning, seek refuge on the shore if possible. Your second priority once you have gained shelter is to stay warm. Light a fire, put on dry clothing, or huddle together with your camping partners to stay warm. Once the inclement weather has passed, you can continue on your journey."}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 28, 2000 (23:46)", "body": "How To Find Water In The Wilderness When traveling in the wilderness, nature gives us many clues as to where to find water. Water will collect at the bottom of hills, and on its way down, will groove the face of the hill. Look for the thickest patches of vegetation and you'll likely find water. In flat terrain, alder, willow, and other shrubs indicate the presence of water. In the desert, water will collect at the lowest points. If you find a dry stream bed, choose the lowest point and dig a hole, because water may lie just below the surface. Finally, snow and ice can be used to supply water."}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 29, 2000 (13:59)", "body": "What Items Need To Be Placed In Bear Bags? There is one firm rule in bear country: If the item has an odor, bear-bag it. This includes food, deodorant, scented soap, tobacco, toothpaste, sunscreen, cooking clothes, garbage, or makeup. Never leave any of these items in your tent. Finally, when on a backcountry fishing trip, always remember to filet your fish at least 100 yards away from your campsite. Fish remains will attract bears like iron to a magnet."}, {"response": 46, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (11:02)", "body": "Bear bag, ya mean hang it outside in a tree up high where them 'bars cain't git it?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (14:49)", "body": "How To Properly Set Up A Bear Bag The purpose of the bear bag is to prevent the hungry and opportunistic bear from stealing your food. While there are several ways to set up a bear bag, the following is a quick and easy method for bear bagging. Most bear bags are set up in trees. The bear bag should hang 12 feet above the ground, 10 feet away from the side of the tree, and 5 feet down from the branch where it is hanging. To accomplish this, ideally you want to find a tree with a branch about 20 feet above the ground. First, toss a weighted end of rope over the tree branch. Next, tie the bear bag to the rope and hoist it up, leaving the sack at least 5 feet below the branch and 12 feet above the ground. Tie off the other end of the rope around the tree trunk and your bear bag is secure. One drawback is that some clever bears have learned to swat the tie off until the rope breaks and the food comes down."}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (14:50)", "body": "Yup, that's whut they ment... If'n yur smart, y'all crawl up in the b'ar bag and stay there to sleep!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jul  1, 2000 (08:28)", "body": "That's that Hawai-in' drawl, ain't it hon?"}, {"response": 50, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul  1, 2000 (13:50)", "body": "Y'all figgered it out, huh?! We's the suthin-most island in the chain... Only right that we have sumthin diffrent 'bout ussin."}, {"response": 51, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jul  1, 2000 (17:09)", "body": "Yeppin'"}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul  4, 2000 (16:53)", "body": "Alternative Bear-Bagging Technique An alternative method for bear-bagging in terrain where the bears are clever is to use the counterbalance. Begin by setting up a bear bag as you normally would (the bear bag should hang 12 feet above the ground, 10 feet away from the side of the tree, and 5 feet down from the branch it is hanging from). However, place the items to be bear-bagged into two separate and equally weighted bear bags. Hoist the first bear bag up to the top of the branch (at least 20 feet above the ground). Then tie the second bag to the rope about three to five feet above the ground, and tie a loop that hangs off the top of the bag in the rope. Just give the second bag a push and the bags will counterbalance about 10 to 12 feet about the ground with no tie off rope for the bears to swat. When you want to retrieve your bear bag, pull the second bag down by hooking the tied loop with a long stick. One drawback is that if the counterbalanced bear bags are not set up right, they can be extremely difficult to retrieve."}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul  5, 2000 (15:31)", "body": "Recommendations For Insect Repellent Where you are, how bad the insects are and how long you will remain outdoors all factor into insect repellant selection. In general, any insect repellent that contains DEET will ward off mosquitoes, ticks, chiggers, and some biting flies. For day hikes and general outdoors use, choose a product with about 10 to 20 percent DEET. However, in the wilderness an insect repellent with 95 to 100 percent DEET is recommended. Stay away from citronella-based insect repellents when camping, as they are not effective enough to provide relief from abundant mosquitoes. For clothing protection, use a permetherin spray to treat the clothing. (FOR CLOTHING PROTECTION ONLY. DO NOT APPLY TO SKIN). One treatment with permetherin can last one to four weeks at a time and is especially effective at repelling ticks."}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul  6, 2000 (16:05)", "body": "Removing A Tick When a tick wants to bite, it usually takes several hours for the tick to become imbedded. A tick that has just attached itself to you can be easily removed by running a thin, clean knife blade between the tick and the skin. If a tick is imbedded, cover the tick with a heavy oil (mineral oil) to close its breathing pores. Eventually the tick will disengage itself. Then remove the tick with a tweezers, being extremely careful to remove all tick parts. Leaving a tick's head in place can cause a painful infection or worse. If you cannot extract all parts of a tick, a visit to your doctor may be necessary. Finally, once a tick is removed never crush the tick between your fingers as this can release harmful organisms that the human body can absorb. Cast the tick aside and move on."}, {"response": 55, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul  7, 2000 (17:39)", "body": "Essential Camping Equipment - Sunglasses When hiking at elevations, in snow, or traveling on water, ultraviolet (UV) rays from the sun can burn the eye's retina if proper eye protection is not worn. Sunglasses should filter 95 to 100 percent of the UV rays and varying percentages of ambient light. For high elevation travel, select sunglasses that allow only a five to ten percent transmission of ambient light and have side shields that reduce the light reaching your eyes. For general outdoor use, sunglasses with ambient transmission rates of 20 percent are desirable. Sunglasses with gray and green lenses will provide the truest color while yellow lenses provide visibility in overcast weather. If purchasing sunglasses for fishing, make sure the lenses are polarized to filter light reflected off of the water surface."}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (13:34)", "body": "Selecting Sunscreen And Sunburn Prevention When outdoors, it is important to protect the skin from sunburn. Underestimating the burning capacity of the sun can be painful and dangerous, including giving you the potential for skin cancer. The ideal protection from the sun is extra clothing. However, when you're camping a good rule of thumb is to use a sunscreen with a sun protection factor (SPF) of at least 15. Apply to all exposed areas of skin. Reapply as often as needed and every couple of hours when sweating heavily. If a body part (such as your nose) is especially susceptible to sun damage, use of a zinc-oxide paste (Desitin) will offer complete protection. And don't forget to protect your lips from sunburn as well. Several lip balms are available that offer SPFs up to 30."}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (14:48)", "body": "Campsite Cleanliness The \"golden rule\" of camping is: \"Leave the campsite cleaner than you found it.\" Always pack out any garbage that you create and any other garbage you may find, no matter who left it. This includes the little aluminum flecks left in a campfire from burnt packaging. On an extended trip, always remember to pack some heavy-duty plastic bags to pack out your garbage. When camping in the wilderness, try to practice the concept of \"Leave no Trace\" so that another camper hiking in the same area never knows that you were there."}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (14:12)", "body": "Where To Go To The Bathroom When traveling in the wilderness, always use pit toilets and/or latrines if they are available when you need to go to the bathroom. If these facilities are not available, go at least 200 feet from any open water. Dig a hole 8 inches wide by 8 inches deep in which to do your business. When finished, fill in the hole with the loose dirt. Never leave behind non-biodegradable items, such as sanitary napkins, and burn the toilet paper if possible. Remember, the last thing you want to encounter when traveling in the wilderness is someone else's mess."}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (13:21)", "body": "Use Trekking Poles To Save Your Knees When hiking over rough terrain up and down steep slopes, you may be surprised how useful trekking poles can be. Trekking poles will literally save your knees thousands of pounds of strain over a typical day of hiking. Also, a set of poles will improve your balance, enable steady breathing, provide added stability during a descent, and help conserve energy. If you can't afford a set, split the cost with a hiking partner and use one pole each just as you would a hiking stick. You and your knees will find the investment well worth the cost."}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 18, 2000 (19:56)", "body": "Using Gaiters If you want to keep rain, snow, rocks, sand, and twigs out of your boots while hiking, cross-country skiing, or climbing your favorite mountain pass, you may want to invest in a pair of gaiters. Typically gaiters fasten just above the ankle, and are worn over the boots and pants, serving as a waterproof barrier and acting as an extension of your boots. Gaiters come in varying sizes and styles, ranging from short styles that rise several inches above the ankle of the boot (keeping sand and rocks away) to high top styles that let you splash through deeper streams, mud, and snow. When selecting gaiters, choose a model suited to your outdoor activity that features strap bindings rather than shoelace bindings. Also keep in mind that hook and loop (Velcro) enclosures will leak less water than a zipper enclosure."}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (15:52)", "body": "Drying Your Clothes If dry weather is scarce on your wilderness trip, a reasonably dry pack towel can be used like a small clothes dryer. First, ring out your wet clothes and place them in a single layer on the pack towel. Next, roll the clothes up in the pack towel and place the bundle in a garbage bag. At night, tuck the whole thing into your sleeping bag. By the morning, the pack towel will have extracted most of the moisture from the clothes and they will be ready to wear."}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (01:12)", "body": "I had a great hike along the San Francisco Bay, some pictures are at http://www.wholetech.com/sanfran I got to see Fort Point, under the Golden Gate Bridge and some great vistas along the trail. There's a nice golf course adjacent to the trail. Save your pennies if you want a place in the Presidio neighborhood near here!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 2003 (23:08)", "body": "Took the kids 'hiking' last Sunday. The Easter bunny had hidden a few eggs along a short path in Lory State Park. Kendall walked and I had Ri in the Snugli napping. The first trail went so well (it was an easy trail about .2 miles!) that we embarked on another. Kendall started asking to be held more often about 1/2 mile in, so we turned around and went back to the first trail to play in the water!"}, {"response": 64, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 2003 (23:09)", "body": "BTW, I LOVE abalone Paul!!!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 25, 2003 (10:18)", "body": "Jan Wolter would love to hear that. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 17, "subject": "Purchasing  a new HD motorcycle", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 18, "subject": "Hydration and Fitness", "response_count": 2, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2005 (08:49)", "body": "The importance of hydration drinks in sports and bicycle racing from www.lancearmstrong.com Dehydration is even more detrimental to a rider than bonking. During hot days in the south of France, the riders consume around 2 bottles per hour. Some of those bottles are just plain water, but about half contain a sports drink. The sports drinks provide carbohydrates to add to the food the riders eat, but the most important ingredients in a sports drink are the electrolytes. The human body functions on electricity and sodium and potassium are the primary conductors of that electricity. Without enough of either, nerve cells cannot function properly and muscles cease to work. In extreme cases, as with hyponutremia (water intoxication), the central nervous system begins to shut down as well. None of this is news to a Tour de France rider; they are professional athletes and know that fuel and hydration are the keys to their success. Even so, many riders get themselves in trouble by failing to eat or drink enough during long hot stages. A 2-3% decrease in body weight due to dehydration leads to a 15% decrease in performance. Lance is strong, but he cannot afford to lose even 5% of his available power and still stay ahead of his competition. The central nervous system (CNS) controls every nerve impulse in the body, and needs sodium, potassium, and calcium to conduct electrical signals that contract muscles and run all bodily functions. You lose a lot of electrolytes through sweat, as evidenced by the white crusty residue on riders' jerseys and helmet straps. (A mildly disgusting way to prove this to yourself is to lick your helmet strap. What you taste is almost entirely salt.) To prevent muscle cramps and more severe CNS consequences from losing too many electrolytes, riders try to make sure at least one of every three bottles they drink contains sports drink. The important thing in choosing a sports drink is making sure it agrees with your stomach. Some drinks might be too sweet or syrupy and leave a rider feeling bloated. Lance Armstrong's drink of choice is Powerade\ufffd, because it works well for him and doesn't upset his stomach. (We hope to introduce Lance to Trek soon! - editor) \ufffd Armstrong will sweat an average of 8 to 12 pounds each day \ufffd Armstrong\ufffds weight will fluctuate less then 1% due to his hydration and nutrition practices \ufffd Armstrong will consume an average of 6,500 to 7,000 calories each day \ufffd Armstrong will drink 2.5 to 3 gallons of fluid each day -- Lance Armstrong's Coach Chris Carmichael"}, {"response": 2, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:37)", "body": "That's a great article about Lance. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 19, "subject": "Lance Armstrong and bicycling as a sport", "response_count": 39, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (08:42)", "body": "I see Lance is the poster boy for light rail in Austin now. It's not a popular cause. It will be interesting to see what the voters say? Anyone here have light rail in their cities?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (20:08)", "body": "No, but it is being considered for Honolulu... That finite island is a nightmare of monumental traffic proportions."}, {"response": 3, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Fri, Nov 17, 2000 (12:48)", "body": "Is 'light rail' commuter and subway trains? If so... Boston MBTA Commuter (AMTRAK) allows bikes to roll on during no-peak times. I hear some of the subway lines allow it (though the GREEN line is not one of them). In NYC you can tak your bike on the subway anytime you can get it to fit."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (00:40)", "body": "In Austin they have racks for bikes on the fronts of buses."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 11, 2002 (10:43)", "body": "From an amazing New Yorker piece. July 11, 2002 | home THE LONG RIDE by MICHAEL SPECTER How did Lance Armstrong manage the greatest comeback in sports history? Issue of 2002-07-15 Posted 2002-07-08 A couple of weeks ago, on a sweltering Saturday afternoon, I found myself in the passenger seat of a small Volkswagen, careering so rapidly around the hairpin turns of the French Alps that I could smell the tires burning. Johan Bruyneel, the suave, unflappable director of the United States Postal Service Pro Cycling Team, was behind the wheel. Driving at ninety kilometres an hour occupied half his attention. The rest was devoted to fiddling with a small television mounted in the dashboard, examining a set of complicated topographical maps, and talking into one of two radio transmitters in the car. The first connected Bruyneel to the team's support vehicle, laden with extra bicycles, water bottles, power bars, and other tools and equipment. The second fed into the earpieces of the eight U.S. Postal Service cyclists who were racing along the switchbacks ahead of us. The entire team could hear every word that Bruyneel said, but most of the time he was talking to just one man: Lance Armstrong. We had been on the road for about three hours and Armstrong was a kilometre in front of us, pedalling so fast that it was hard to keep up. It was the sixth day of the Dauphin\ufffd Lib\ufffdr\ufffd, a weeklong race that is run in daily stages. Armstrong doesn't enter races like the Dauphin\ufffd to win (though often enough he does); he enters to test his legs in preparation for a greater goal\ufffdthe Tour de France. Since 1998, when he returned to cycling after almost losing his life to testicular cancer, Armstrong has focussed exclusively on dominating the thirty-five-hundred-kilometre, nearly month-long Tour, which, in the world of cycling, matters more than all other races combined. This week, he begins a quest to become the fourth person in the hundred-year-history of the Tour\ufffdthe world's most gruelling test of human endurance\ufffdto win four times in a row. (In 1995, the Spanish cyclist Miguel Indurain became the first to win five consecutively\ufffda record that is clearly on Armstrong's mind.) The cyclists had covered a hundred and eight kilometres, much of it over mountain passes still capped with snow, despite temperatures edging into the nineties. Now the peloton\ufffdthe term is French for \"platoon,\" and it describes the pack of riders who make up the main group in every race\ufffdwas about to start one of the most agonizing climbs in Europe, the pass between Mont Blanc and Lake Geneva, which is known as the Col de Joux Plane. In cycling, climbs are rated according to how long and steep they are: the easiest is category four, the hardest category one. The seventeen-hundred-metre Joux Plane has a special rating, known as hors categorie, or beyond category; for nearly twelve kilometres, it rises so sharply that it seems a man could get to the top only by helicopter. \"We start the Joux Plane with a lot of respect for this mountain,\" Bruyneel said quietly into his radio. \"It is long, it is hard. Take it easy. If people are breaking away, let them go. Do you hear me, Lance?\" \"Yes, Johan,\" Armstrong replied flatly. \"I remember the mountain.\" With only a few days remaining in the 2000 Tour de France, Armstrong had what most observers agreed was an insurmountable lead when he headed toward this pass. He was riding with his two main rivals of that year: Marco Pantani, the best-known Italian cyclist, and Jan Ullrich, the twenty-eight-year-old German who won the Tour in 1997, and who in the world of cycling plays the role of Joe Frazier to Armstrong's Ali. As they started to climb, Armstrong seemed invincible. Halfway up, though, he slumped over his handlebars, looking as if he had suffered a stroke, and Ullrich blew right by him. \"I bonked,\" Armstrong said later, using a cyclist's term for running out of fuel. A professional cyclist consumes so much energy\ufffdup to ten thousand calories during a two-hundred-kilometre mountain stage\ufffdthat, unless some of it is replaced, his body will run through all the glycogen (the principal short-term supply of carbohydrates the body uses for power) stored in his muscles. Armstrong hadn't eaten properly that morning; then he found himself cut off from his domestiques\ufffdthe teammates who, among other things, are responsible for bringing him supplies of food and water during the race. \"That was the hardest day of my life on a bike,\" Armstrong said later. He was lucky to finish the day's stage, and even luckier to hold on and win the race. \"This isn't just a stage in a race for Lance,\" Bruyneel said now, as Armstrong approached the bottom of the slope. \"He needs to defeat this mountain to feel ready for the Tour.\" This time, Bruyneel made sure that the domestiques ferried water, carbohydrate drinks, and extra power bars to Armstrong throughout the day. They periodically drifted back to our car and performed a kind of high-speed docking maneuv"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 11, 2002 (10:45)", "body": "Lance Armstrong's heart is almost a third larger than that of an average man. During those rare moments when he is at rest, it beats about thirty-two times a minute\ufffdslowly enough so that a doctor who knew nothing about him would call a hospital as soon as he heard it. (When Armstrong is exerting himself, his heart rate can edge up above two hundred beats a minute.) Physically, he was a prodigy. Born in 1971, Armstrong was raised by his mother in Plano, a drab suburb of Dallas that he quickly came to despise. He never knew his father, and refers to him as \"the DNA donor.\" He has written that \"the main thing you need to know about my childhood is that I never had a real father, but I never sat around wishing for one, either. . . . I've never had a single conversation with my mother about him.\" He was a willful child and didn't like to listen to advice. \"I have loved him every minute of his life, but, God, there were times when it was a struggle,\" his mother, Linda, told me. She is a demure woman with the kind of big blond hair once favored by wives of astronauts. \"He has always wanted to test the boundaries,\" she said. Armstrong admits that he was never an easy child. In his autobiography, \"It's Not About the Bike,\" which was written with the journalist Sally Jenkins, he said, \"When I was a boy I invented a game called fireball, which entailed soaking a tennis ball in kerosene, lighting it on fire, and playing catch with it.\" Armstrong was an outstanding young swimmer, and as an adolescent he began to enter triathlons. By 1987, when he was sixteen, he was also winning bicycle races. That year, he was invited to the Cooper Institute, in Dallas, which was one of the first centers to recognize the relationship between fitness and aerobic conditioning. Everyone uses oxygen to break down food into the components that provide energy; the more oxygen you are able to use, the more energy you will produce, and the faster you can run, ride, or swim. Armstrong was given a test called the VO2 Max, which is commonly used to assess an athlete's aerobic ability: it measures the maximum amount of oxygen the lungs can consume during exercise. His levels were the highest ever recorded at the clinic. (Currently, they are about eighty-five millilitres per kilogram of body weight; a healthy man might have a VO2 Max of forty.) Chris Carmichael, who became his coach when Armstrong was still a teen-ager, told me that even then Armstrong was among the most remarkable athletes he had ever seen. Not only has his cardiovascular strength always been exceptional; his body seems specially constructed for cycling. His thigh bones are unusually long, for example, which permits him to apply just the right amount of torque to the pedals. Although Armstrong was talented, he wasn't very disciplined. He acted as if he had nothing to learn. \"I had never met him when I took over as his coach,\" Carmichael told me. \"I called him up and we talked on the phone. He was kind of rude. Not kind of rude. He was completely rude. He was, like, 'So you are the new coach\ufffdwhat are you going to teach me?' He just thought he was King Shit. I would tell him to wait till the end of a race before making a break. He just couldn't do that. He would get out in front and set the pace. He would burn up the field, and when other riders came alive he would be done, spent.\" Still, Armstrong did well in one-day races, in which bursts of energy count as much as patience or tactical precision. In 1991, after several years of increasingly impressive performances, he became the U.S. amateur champion, and the next year he turned pro. In 1993, he became the youngest man ever to win a stage in the Tour de France; he won the World Road Championships the same year. In 1996, Armstrong signed a contract with the French cycling team Cofidis, for a salary of more than two million dollars over two years. He had a beautiful new home in Austin, and a Porsche that he liked to drive fast. Then, in September, he became unusually weak and felt soreness in one of his testicles. Since soreness is a part of any cyclist's life, he didn't give it much thought. One night later that month, however, several days after his twenty-fifth birthday, he felt something metallic in his throat while he was talking on the phone. He put his friend on hold, and ran into the bathroom. \"I coughed into the sink,\" he later wrote. \"It splattered with blood. I coughed again, and spit up another stream of red. I couldn't believe the mass of blood and clotted matter had come from my own body.\" Within a week, Armstrong had surgery to remove the cancerous testicle. By then, the disease had spread to his lungs, abdomen, and brain. He needed brain surgery and the most aggressive type of chemotherapy. \"At that point, he had a minority chance of living another year,\" Craig Nichols, who was Armstrong's principal oncologist, told me. \"We cure at most a third of the people in situations like that.\" A professor at Oregon Health Scie"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 16, 2002 (20:55)", "body": "http://www.olntv.com/listenlive.html (a frame in http://www.letour.fr/2002/us/index.html ) This is great! There's a *live webcast* of the Tour de France. No commercials. You need WMP. Here's the schedule. Wednesday, July 17 - Stage 10 9:30am-11:30am ET Thursday, July 18 - Stage 11 8:30am-11:30am ET Friday, July 19 - Stage 12 8:30am-11:30am ET Saturday, July 20 - Stage 13 9:30am-11:30am ET Sunday, July 21 - Stage 14 9:30am-11:30am ET Monday, July 22 - Rest Day No Live Audio Tuesday, July 23 - Stage 15 9:30am-11:30am ET Wednesday, July 24 - Stage 16 7:30am-11:30am ET Thursday, July 25 - Stage 17 8:30am-11:30am ET Friday, July 26 - Stage 18 9:30am-11:30am ET Saturday, July 27 - Stage 19 9:30am-11:30am ET Sunday, July 28 - Stage 20 9:30am-11:30am ET"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 19, 2002 (22:18)", "body": "The New Yorker article. It was great. Did I say. It was great. They pointed out that Lance's resting pulse is 32 beats per minute, his heart is a third bigger than the average mans, and his thigh bones are the perfect height for pumping pedals, which is pumps about 100 times a minute on hard mountain climbs. I encountered him at BookPeople at Central Market one time. I was walking out of the store and he spotted me and held the door open for me when I was about 40 feet away, he smiled and strode off across the parking lot. I got the impression of a small but exceeding powerful and conscious man. He's friends with Robin Williams, another cyclist. Did you catch his comments on Lance in the HBO Special (\"he' not on chemicals, you idiots . . . he's on *chemo* . . . having his testicle removed makes him more aerodynamic. Here's an article on his rigorous training regimen: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/29/sports/othersports/29LANC.html Here are some super places to follow the rest of the Tour de France, about ten more days. http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/tdf2001/ webcast audio and comprehensive covrage http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2002/tour02/?id=stages/stage11 http://www.olntv.com/listenlive.html and http://www.letour.fr/2002/us/index.html And finally the great NYer article: http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/020715fa_fact1"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (23:35)", "body": "Surprise! oln blew away CBS today with it's coverage of the Tour de France. Lance came in third but he about doubled his overall lead to 4 minutes and something. What a powerful stretch drive by Austin's cycling powerhouse up France's most daunting challenge of the Tour de France. The Spaniard challenged him and he just turned on the afterburners and it was bye bye to the rest of the pack."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 25, 2002 (11:25)", "body": "Lance maintains a plus 5 minute lead over Botero with two others neaby. Thursday, July 25 - Stage 17 8:30am-11:30am ET -Live! 3:00pm-5:00pm ET - Re-air of live coverage 9:00pm-11:00pm ET / 10:00pm-12:00am PT - Commentary & analysis of day's stage Friday, July 26 - Stage 18 9:30am-11:30am ET -Live! 3:00pm-5:00pm ET - Re-air of live coverage 9:00pm-11:00pm ET / 10:00pm-12:00am PT - Commentary & analysis of day's stage Saturday, July 27 - Stage 19 9:30am-11:30am ET -Live! 3:00pm-5:00pm ET - Re-air of live coverage 9:00pm-11:00pm ET / 10:00pm-12:00am PT - Commentary & analysis of day's stage Sunday, July 28 - Stage 20 Live audio coverage available on olntv.com - 9:30am-11:30am. Visit the Listen Live page. CBS Coverage 2:00pm - 3:00pm ET OLN Coverage 9:00pm-11:00pm ET / 10:00pm-12:00am PT - Commentary & analysis of day's stage Thursday, August 22 - Post-race Show 8:00pm ET/PT Join Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen for a re-cap of the most exciting moments of the 2002 Tour de France."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 25, 2002 (22:42)", "body": "Sunday August 4th 1pm OLN, New York City bike race. Lance will be there."}, {"response": 12, "author": "g7hvp", "date": "Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (11:55)", "body": "Will Lance Cycle the Atlantic first or take the long path he hi good enough to do it."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (14:00)", "body": "All he has to do now is play it safe, avoid crashes and sickness. Five minuates may not seem like much, but it's actually a pretty huge lead."}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (14:18)", "body": "5 minutes is like hours in a contest like this. He should bide his time and not do anything stupid like overextending himself or taking risks. I am pulling for him!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "g7hvp", "date": "Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (15:52)", "body": "I watch the race every day live and they all deserve a medal but Lance seems to be a rarity which pop up from time to time in sport."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (20:36)", "body": "Yup, he will be like all the record holders in any sport. One for the books! And, he did it the hard way - fighting for his life. I have also been watching and looking at the scenery in the background whenever possible."}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (21:53)", "body": "Tomorrow are the time trials and Lance is out to win this one."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 28, 2002 (00:03)", "body": "And he did! Tomorrow's the big ride around the Champs Elyses."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 28, 2002 (09:43)", "body": "Can't get the oln feed today. oln tv is blocked out in favor the the CBS delayed and sanitized version at 1 pm CST. So I found another live audio feed: http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/L0/home_multimedia_Lng0.shtml You'll get commercials in French but the commentary is in English."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 29, 2002 (11:59)", "body": "Lance won and displayed great class in his interviews and comments afterward. That makes four in a row and only one other man has won five in a row, Indurain."}, {"response": 21, "author": "g7hvp", "date": "Mon, Jul 29, 2002 (13:59)", "body": "Lance says he will race for at least two more years, new records to come?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 29, 2002 (14:23)", "body": "Rumsas and David Millar could put up a challenge to Lance next year, his chances hinge on whether or not he can come back with a good team again."}, {"response": 23, "author": "g7hvp", "date": "Tue, Jul 30, 2002 (09:39)", "body": "Dave Miller says he hopes to win the tour in abour 3 years after Lance retires"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 30, 2002 (12:06)", "body": "Rumsas wife got busted with a carload full of doping products yesterday, Rumsas may be on the run and the cycling governing body is going to slap him. I guess Rumsas stock is going down. Lance considers h9im to be the biggest threat."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 30, 2002 (12:08)", "body": "Third Place Is in Doubt Police Say Rumsas's Wife Had 'Doping Materials' in Car advertisement Raimondas Rumsas's third-place finish in the Tour de France remains in place Monday pending the results of an investigation and drug tests. (Thomas Kienzle - AP) _____What the Jerseys Mean_____ \ufffd Yellow: Overall race leader; shortest time for total distance covered. The most coveted jersey. \ufffd Polka dots: King of the Mountains. The best climber wears this jersey. \ufffd Green: The best sprinter. Points are awarded for intermediate and final sprints on flat terrain. E-Mail This Article Printer-Friendly Version Subscribe to The Post By Keith B. Richburg Washington Post Foreign Service Tuesday, July 30, 2002; Page D02 PARIS, July 29 -- The ever-present specter of doping cast a shadow over the Tour de France when the Italian team Lampre-Daikin announced it was suspending its captain and star, Lithuanian rider Raimondas Rumsas, after his wife was detained by French customs police for carrying \"suspicious\" medical products. Rumsas finished third overall Sunday in the Tour and shared the podium with Lance Armstrong, who was celebrating his fourth consecutive Tour de France win. Rumsas, 30, stood to Armstrong's left as a French military band played \"The Star-Spangled Banner.\" But hours before Sunday's final race stage began, customs police detained Edita Rumsas after searching a car she was driving at Chamonix in the Alps near the Italian border. A police spokeswoman said customs police discovered \"medications that could be considered doping materials\" in the car. Edita Rumsas is in police custody in Lyon, although she has not been formally charged. Rumsas has returned to his home in Marlia, Italy, with the rest of the team. Edita had been with her husband throughout the race, but left by car before the race ended. Police declined to specify the kind or amount of material she was carrying when apprehended. On Sunday night, French police in Paris entered"}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 30, 2002 (12:10)", "body": "July 30, 2002 08:30 AM ET MADRID (Reuters) - Lithuanian rider Raimondas Rumsas, who became embroiled in a doping probe after customs officials found drugs in his wife's car following this year's Tour de France, has denied taking any banned substances. \"I have ridden this Tour in a completely honest and legal manner,\" the 30-year-old cyclist, who came third in the race, told Spanish daily El Mundo Tuesday. http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=2XBX3KUBSWW3SCRBAELCFEY?type=sportnews&StoryID=1268443"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 30, 2002 (21:06)", "body": "Lance will be back in Austin in September, I'm looking forwarding to attending the homecoming. It will be a grand occasion for Austin, Texas."}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 2003 (04:51)", "body": "http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-armstrong-marriage&prov=ap&type=lgns Armstrong's wife says that she and Lance are working at reconciling their marriage, and plan to reunite in Europe before and through the TDF."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 17, 2003 (19:34)", "body": "US Postal got off to a good start by winning the team time trial on day one. As usual, Outdoor Life Network is doing great coverage, live, every day except on the weekend when do a delay in the evening. Victor Hugo Pena of Postal got the first yellow jersey with Lance just a second behind. http://www.khou.com/sharedcontent/sports/tourdefrance/tourdefrance/071802dnspotourlede.eee.html \"This year [2002], Mr. Armstrong has been appearing regularly on French television, speaking in French. He's signing more autographs and seems to be making an effort to become more open with the passionate French cycling fans. \" http://www.postconsumer.com/blogfrance/archives/000461.html \"He speaks french! Badly, though: \"Il est le plus grand threat!\" (he meant menace). \" Tyler Hamilton is riding with a broken collarbone, victim of an early crash in the Tour. http://www.velonews.com/tour2003/diaries/articles/4452.0.html The OLN announcers are great with Phil Ligget and Paul being joined by a flirtatious, bold blond newcomer Kristen Bug and funnyman Bob Roll. Roll won't be coming to a Comedy Club near you any time soon."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 24, 2003 (21:55)", "body": "Lance is ove a minute ahead of the second place Jan Ulrich going in to the final few days on the road to Paris. Magnificent effort by Tyler Hamilton a couple of days ago in the last mountain stage. \"He made a bold move\", said Lance, of the rider with the broken collarbone."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 26, 2003 (10:20)", "body": "Both Ulrich and Armstrong are out on the course as I write this. This most likely will decide this years Tour de France. It's a 30 mile individual time trial. Man against man. It's rainy and treacherous out on the course. At least it's not hot, that's what did Lance in during the last time trial. Ulrich is ahead by 6 seconds so far, Lance is ahead by a minute five overall. I hope they don't risk too much. This is a very tricky run. Follow it on OLN or http://olntv.com"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug  1, 2003 (03:41)", "body": "Lance did a two hour interview on OLN tv (channel 608 if have Directv) and it may still be in reruns. When asked about the crash, he said he looked at the reruns and it didn't look to him like Ullrich was \"waiting\" for him; he said Jan had on his same face and it looked like he was bearing down until Tyler Hamilton ran up and got everyone to slow down. He said the race was full of \"little problems\" like cooling down with misting machines way too much before the first time trial which caused him to break out in a sweat and he went in to a bunch of other stuff. The stuff he referred to as the stuff that \"people don't know about\" in an interview during the race. It was a riveting two hour wrap up with Paul Sherwyn and Phil Leggett and I highly recommend it if you can catch it on an OLN rerun."}, {"response": 33, "author": "admin", "date": "Thu, Feb 12, 2004 (14:01)", "body": "We still have it tivoed."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 18, 2004 (09:20)", "body": "Lance is getting ready for this years tour in central California. He's been seen laying around the beach with Cheryl Crow."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2005 (10:12)", "body": "from http://thepaceline.com Lance News + Larger Font | + Smaller Font By Chris Brewer I knew Oprah was popular, but I'll be honest: I never knew she was THAT popular - wow\ufffd so check out some of the news \ufffd and what was not really \ufffdnew news\ufffd \ufffd that we experienced last Friday\ufffd The Preparation The show was taped back on Jan 23 in Chicago, so the production was \ufffdin the can\ufffd as they say. What was going on behind-the-scenes at the Lance Armstrong Foundation that day? Well, a solid case of Oprah fever had set in, that was for sure. Things started out relatively mild since the show is seen in a few markets in the morning, but there was plenty of action in preparation beforehand. To help promote the event over 1 million emails had been sent out to LAF supporters the day prior. Every web page for the LAF.org and LiveStrong.org web sites had been reviewed, scrubbed, plus new content added. All 3 web servers had their memory doubled and our engineers tweaked them up to make sure they were ready to handle the expected load. Word had been put out to our service providers to expect a big (BIG) spike in web traffic and e-commerce orders (we even upped our data line capacity for 3 days from 10 megabit to 100). And finally, the LAF fulfillment company went to around-the-clock staffing to get the wristbands out ASAP. Now the question on everyone\ufffds mind was \ufffdJust how big an impact would it be?\" It would all come down to the afternoon window when Oprah is literally seen across the country. The Show The show started out with a quick profile of Lance\ufffds public image, from teen athlete to pro cyclist to cancer survivor to 6-time Tour champion. Lance then walked in wearing a light gray 2-piece suit to a tremendous standing ovation, the Oprah set completely done up in yellow with LIVESTRONG\ufffd emblazoned everywhere. Oprah then showed a montage of Lance\ufffds life, complete with some pretty rare images: Lance on his first bike at age 6, long-distance running at 10, and his first triathlon at 14. In addition to the now-familiar cycling highlights they also showed the great Nike commercial culminating with the line, \ufffdWhat am I on? I\ufffdm on my bike busting my ass for 6 hours\ufffd\ufffd Lance was asked about his statement that cancer was the best thing that ever happened to him \ufffd was that still true? \ufffdAbsolutely, it forced me to take a look at my life and at my sport. I haven\ufffdt been perfect (since being diagnosed) but I\ufffdve attacked the bike and the sport in a way I would not have pre-cancer.\ufffd While it\ufffds not uncommon for Lance to talk graphically about his cancer experience, he was clearly surprised when Oprah recounted his symptoms. \ufffdLance, you had testicles the size of a lemon\ufffd\ufffd \ufffdJust one!\ufffd he corrected. \ufffdI told you not to talk about that (he joked) \ufffd but now we can talk about anything\ufffd\ufffd The story then went on to highlight the importance of Lance\ufffds mom Linda. The reality of the cancer experience was that she was the one who was by his side throughout the treatments and we can look forward to many more details in her upcoming book \ufffdNo Mountain High Enough : Raising Lance, Raising Me\ufffd. Lance then told a quick story of how he went to a recent video shoot at Oprah\ufffds house and he knew that his mom was a big fan of her. So he invited her along, but didn\ufffdt tell Linda where they were going, just that it was an old friend and that they were bringing the kids, too. Exhibiting true Texan hospitality, Linda said \ufffdWe should bring some guacamole and chips.\ufffd \ufffdSure, why not?\ufffd Lance said \ufffd and off they went, much to Linda\ufffds total surprise as they met Oprah at the door\ufffd (and yes, they ate the chips and guacamole!) The Challenge Oprah then asked her viewers to see of they could beat the one-day sales record of 382,000 LIVESTRONG yellow wristbands. She noted the huge popularity of the yellow wristbands that support the Lance Armstrong Foundation, from celebrities to kids to cancer survivors and their supporters, the demand is now truly international. With over 32 million now sold, this is a true phenomenon and she wanted her viewers to do their part as well. She basically asked her viewers to go to Oprah.com - and now - where a special page was ready and waiting for them to take their orders as well as ask them to fill out a survery for the LAF. And away they went, too! As we monitored the web traffic the spike in data flow and orders was literally off the chart, such is the influence this show commands..."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2005 (10:13)", "body": "from http://thepaceline.com - Lance's fan site. After a commercial break, the show then moved to Oprah\ufffds house where Lance had literally just ridden in from a 5-hour training ride. She noted how she was a tad intimidated to ride with the 6-time Tour champ \ufffd as most people would be \ufffd but she not only handled her MTB quite well, but managed to do a rolling interview with Lance in the process. Prior to a \ufffdrace\ufffd with Oprah \ufffd and Lance could only use one leg (and of course he still won) - she asked him if being naturally physically gifted was what allowed him to be so successful on the bike. \ufffdI prefer to think I work the hardest,\ufffd he replied. Back to the live set and Lance\ufffds girlfriend Sheryl Crow joined them on stage for their first-ever joint interview. She recalled how the two had first \ufffdcourted\ufffd via Blackberry text messages and that a year ago she started riding a road bike, one of several Lance has given her. \ufffdShe already rode up Alpe d\ufffdHuez,\ufffd Lance noted. \ufffdYeah, but it took me an hour and 37 minutes to get up, and the record is 37 minutes,\ufffd Sheryl replied. Oprah then looked at Lance and asked \ufffdHow long did it take you to get up that mountain\ufffd Without missing a beat Lance deadpanned: 37 minutes. The biggest news (that was not really news) was Oprah asking Lance if he would go for a seventh Tour de France victory. Lance looked at Sheryl and said, \ufffdYeah, absolutely.\ufffd Now that may have been a surprise to those who don\ufffdt follow the sport closely, but LA noted weeks ago at the Discovery Channel presentation press conference that competing in another Tour was part of his contract with the new title sponsor. As for whether or not that will in 2005 or 2006, that\ufffds still to be determined. And after the show in an audience Q&A not broadcasted, someone asked Lance, \ufffdDid I just hear you announce you will be riding the Tour in 2005?\ufffd and Lance said no, he didn\ufffdt say that specifically, and he re-explained his contract obligation. A Special Meeting Without a doubt the best moment of the show was when they brought out a very special cancer survivor, first grade teacher / breast cancer survivor Andre Rice. She was diagnosed 6 years ago, had her treatments and went into remission. Unfortunately 4 years later she recurred and she is now back in chemotherapy treatment. And through it all, Lance has been her role model. Prior to the Oprah show, over 100 friends and family carrying yellow balloons surprised her with the announcement that she had been selected to come out to the show\ufffds taping and to meet Lance. She came onto the set and gave Lance a huge hug, then told him, \ufffdYou are my hero; I am in the fight of my life. On the days I can\ufffdt go on my husband says: You are my Lance, and you can do it!\ufffd She then went to explain the amazing inspirational impact of the yellow wristbands, and Lance noted this was the original intent of the program. Lance then rolled out a nice Trek cruiser bike and gave it to her, signing the frame as Andre stood there stunned \ufffd an there wasn\ufffdt a dry eye in the house\ufffd As the show wound down, they spoke a little about Lance\ufffds kids. \ufffdThey are miracle children (recalling their creation via IVF). My son Luke is my twin,\ufffd Lance noted. \ufffdTheir mom is great, and we have an excellent partnership raising the kids \ufffd we each have them half the time.\ufffd Oprah asked Lance if he wanted more kids. \ufffdThere\ufffds a few more tadpoles left!\ufffd Lance joked. \ufffdBut in a year or 2 I\ufffdm not going to have too much to do \ufffd why not go and chase around a bunch of kids?\ufffd And finally Sheryl debuted a new song titled \ufffdI Know Why\ufffd from her upcoming CD. The Result Can you say \ufffda-maze-ing\ufffd? I knew that you could\ufffd The previous one-day record of 382,000 wristband sales was smashed. The wristband sales for from Friday's Oprah air date were over 900,000, plus an additional 300,00 more on Saturday! Over 13,500 LAFsurvey responses were compiled. * You can get more details from the show over at the Oprah.com web site. So all in all it was an amazing day for Oprah and the Lance Armstrong Foundation, and it\ufffds hats off to the folks at Oprah, their viewers, and the LAF supporters around the world \ufffd thank you all!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2005 (13:15)", "body": "I'm inspired, I've gone to a daily pain inducing workout with performance enhancing drinks (Trek), see the fitness topic."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 18, 2005 (10:36)", "body": "CRAPONNE-SUR-ARZON, France (Reuters) - American Lance Armstrong has pulled out of the Paris-Nice race with a sore throat. The six-times winner of the Tour de France will return to his home at Girona in Spain for treatment, according to a statement on his Discovery team's Web Site. \"I had finally adjusted to the jet lag of the trip but woke up this morning with a sore throat that seemed to get worse all day,\" Armstrong said on Wednesday. \"I will return to Spain to rest up and be back on the bike in a couple of days.\" Paris-Nice was the first major event on the agenda of the Texas rider after he decided to enter the Tour de France in July and chase for a seventh consecutive victory in the most gruelling cycle race of the world. But even before he returned to France, the American made it clear that he did not expect anything from Paris-Nice apart from spending time on his bike in race conditions. \"This is my first race of the season and I'm not physically fit at the moment,\" he said. \"I'm certainly a bit late in my preparations as I have spent more time than usual in the United States this winter.\" Armstrong finished at a disappointing 140th place in the Sunday's prologue, an individual time-trial of 4.5 kilometers in the Paris suburbs. The Discovery team leader then lost more ground on leaders when he was trapped in a collective fall in the first stage near Chabris on Monday. SCHEDULE CHANGES He then finished twice with the bunch but he seemed to suffer from the bad weather as the second and the third stages, shortened because of the snow, were raced in sub-zero temperatures. When he pulled out, Armstrong was 62nd overall, one minute 35 seconds behind race leader Tom Boonen of Belgium. His withdrawal means that Armstrong will now have to reshuffle his schedule and bring in some changes in his preparations for the Tour de France. He is considering taking part into the Setmana Catalana next week before returning to the United States for the Tour of Georgia. Armstrong had said that he wanted to focus on spring's one-day races and he could race in the Tour of Flanders on April 3 before entering either the Dauphine Libere or the Tour of Switzerland"}, {"response": 39, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:38)", "body": "http://touroftexas.com fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 2, "subject": "How did your workout go today?", "response_count": 482, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug  6, 1996 (08:47)", "body": "Too early in the morning for me to have worked out yet, at least on a workday. Yesterday was a fitness skate at the Veloway and this afternoon will be my final ride on the Greenbelt. Thursday... Rocky Hill Ranch Next week... Colorado, Rocky Mountain high! ;-)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug  6, 1996 (09:02)", "body": "Woo whee Stacey. Same here. It's not early, it's just that I didn't make it to the Q yet today. I'm expecting a visitor from the WELL to roll into town today (sabrina) that I promised to plug in to the Q on her pass through Austin. She left a message on my recorder last night from somewhere out in West Texas."}, {"response": 3, "author": "Federico", "date": "Fri, Sep 13, 1996 (22:14)", "body": "Well, I like the Q. I think it is too crowded though. You sometimes have to wait several minutes before a weight machine is available."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 14, 1996 (11:34)", "body": "What is your typical workout federico? It didn't used to be crowded at all but adding 2 million dollars worth of equipment and putting a major promotional effort has packed the place. I wonder how far they're going to take this before it takes a Mexico City or Calcuttalike atmosphere? I like the 2nd row of machines from the far aerobics room. I like it that they give you a self test before you get started."}, {"response": 5, "author": "kristin", "date": "Sat, Sep 14, 1996 (13:49)", "body": "Workout? I don't know what it is about this summer in Maine; it has either been too rainy or too rainy, and when it rains, I become too depressed to workout. I mean, it isn't as if I don't belong to a \"club\" with good machines and a *great* view (actually, just a room in my house with a few machines and a window overlooking the lake), it is just that rain seems to be such a disincentive to working out. Oh well, I suppose I will get my act together and workout today (unless I find a good movie on Directv :) http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 15, 1996 (10:50)", "body": "Solution: position your exercise bike in front of the tv and run the tv off of pedal power. I didn't work out yesterday, I spent the day walking miles and miles at the Whole Life Expo. The guys doing \"acromassage\" sure got a workout. Can you imagine suspending another person upside down with your feet while giving them a massage. These guys did that for several hours. Acromassage they call it. Wild stuff. Tomorrow, the Q, or maybe later on today."}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Oct  7, 1997 (10:21)", "body": "Wokred out at a gym yesterday... ewwww yucky. But as was proved last year, winter is a hard time to maintain my regular exercise stuff -- cycling, skating and running. So the gym would be a supplement. It was a Bally's but REALLY old and dingy feeling. Not the best time but I enjoyed the sweating."}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Oct  7, 1997 (10:29)", "body": "Thanks Paul, for the info on browsing. I've gone back and looked at a few of the older conferences and read old responses. How sad I was this a.m. when I read the first entry into this section... \"my final ride on the Greenbelt\" My I do still miss Austin an awful lot. I need a plane ticket for me and my bike. Or maybe I should just ride back the ,,10+ miles."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct  8, 1997 (01:05)", "body": "You could do it!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct  8, 1997 (11:10)", "body": "With a personal sag and great weather, I probably could. Dammit Paul, now you got me thinkin'..."}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct  9, 1997 (11:53)", "body": "Yesterday I snuck in a skate down the Platte River trail from Englewood into the foothills. Absolutely INCREDIBLE day. Cool, like autumn and sunny like Colorado. Good smelling air, Canadian geese all around (chasing the ducks out of the water) and changing leaves."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct  9, 1997 (13:16)", "body": "Wow, sounds like a Rocky Mountain high. We've been getting a lot of rain today, and we need it to green things up around here. I hope to get out on the trails tonight when I get off work. I'm going to do some video of the woods around my place and put them somewhere on the site. I'll point to it later. Have you seen our new main page today, Stace?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct  9, 1997 (13:22)", "body": "'fraid not. The spring takes soooo long to load up on my itty bitty 8MB Mac.. I promise to try and catch a glimpse later."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct  9, 1997 (19:52)", "body": "I'm going to move that animated gif off the main page, it does take a long time to load. I'll make is so you can click on the picture on the main page and go to the animated gif. What are you running for a browser and telnet program on that itty bitty Mac?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 10, 1997 (11:41)", "body": "netscape and nsca(?)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 11, 1997 (19:45)", "body": "Cool. How was your workout today, Stacey? Mine consisted of moving furniture and running up and down two flights of stairs in my house. And crawling around in the basement running phone and network wires."}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 13, 1997 (10:44)", "body": "moving? I had a killer mtn bike ride on Saturday but it snowed yesterday so I might wait a couple of days to do it again until the trail dries off! Not a difficult ride but a long, beautiful, exhausting ride!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 13, 1997 (20:12)", "body": "Not moving, just rearranging. I'm tired tonight from the weekend. It's so nice and cool out I feel like a walk in the woods before the sun goes down. The spider webs near clearing out on the trail. And I need to air out some and get some exercise."}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Oct 14, 1997 (12:27)", "body": "Spider webs in your head?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 14, 1997 (14:54)", "body": "The spider webs build up along the trail I cut through the woods if I miss a few days of walking, well, the spider webs in my head too from too much being inside!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 15, 1997 (10:20)", "body": "Obviously I need to clear the webs in my head!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 15, 1997 (14:14)", "body": "Today's a gorgeous day for a workout, cool, crisp, not a cloud to be seen. I'm planning on a few miles jog later when I get off work. There's a nice breeze today too."}, {"response": 23, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (10:07)", "body": "A bike ride last night. Gorgeous day but by the time I got off the mtn, it was FREEZING cold! Welcome to Colorado, where the temp drops 20 degrees in 15 mins if it so desires!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (10:26)", "body": "Today I woke up with a leg cramp, for the long walk/run yesterday. Do I need to eat more potassium?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (13:28)", "body": "Bananas! Need to take better care of yourself, for sure :-)!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (16:00)", "body": "The gym thing again. Dingy and dank but I worked up a sweat and played with the free weights. Snow tonight and through the weekend so maybe a bike ride..."}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov  5, 1997 (13:15)", "body": "Did the gym thing yesterday, first real workout since I hurt my back. Still a little stiff and sore but sweating for an hour seemed to help. The sauna is what keeps bringing me back! Not nearly as nice as the Q, but hey, I'm on a budget!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov  5, 1997 (15:08)", "body": "My workouts have been *great* the last two days. Mile swims both days. Sauna. Hot Tub. Steam Room. Exercise machines. Pumping up the ol' bod. Got to. Or turn into a brain in a jar (ughh)."}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (16:30)", "body": "Sounds like a great B movie plot. \"Man loses Q pass, mutates into... BRAIN IN A JAR!!!\""}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (22:07)", "body": "Don't worry, I have a spare Q card."}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (11:47)", "body": "Whew! That could've been a disaster."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (13:36)", "body": "Always good to have a clone around."}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (13:45)", "body": "Do you have one sprouting in the back 40?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (14:21)", "body": "Not yet, maybe time to get one started."}, {"response": 35, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (11:19)", "body": "I had the most fun on Friday! I wanted to go for a jog but it was way too cold. So I turned up the tunage and danced around in my basement! Whew! I had a great time and a great workout [read: I was sore the next day!]"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (13:17)", "body": "I love to dance around the house to great music."}, {"response": 37, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (13:30)", "body": "What do you dance around to?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (14:26)", "body": "The best station I can find. I really don't play CDs or tapes much."}, {"response": 39, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (12:19)", "body": "radio gets me frustrated. too many commercials and all the same songs."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (13:23)", "body": "KUT has some cool music sometimes. And some stations play like 6 songs in a row or do albums."}, {"response": 41, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 26, 1997 (11:26)", "body": "I agree with the KUT statement. They are one of the few stations that understands the word 'variety.' The popular stations seem to get stuck on 'alternative top 40' tunes."}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 26, 1997 (13:05)", "body": "Sometimes KOOP has some good stuff but can't be counted on."}, {"response": 43, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (19:58)", "body": "We've got KCTL (out of Ft. Collins)"}, {"response": 44, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Tue, Dec  9, 1997 (11:01)", "body": "I *need* workouts in the winter! No landscaping to to other than chopping wood for the fire, and the daily walks with my daughter to her schoolbus stop, with some Xcountry skiing when weather allows. I use free weights for about 1.25 hours each day since the membership I *won* to the fitness center lapsed. Good discipline's not as bad as it sounds!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (20:19)", "body": "I've found Colorado winters difficult for that reason. Very little biking in the snow (although it has been done!), no skating and uncomfortable running. But I do hate gyms..."}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 16, 1997 (00:10)", "body": "I know what you mean about the gym scene, I think I tried to get you over to the Q once, remember?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (20:18)", "body": "And I conceded but that was at 6am when I had the place to myself. Nothing campares to the great outdoors but a completely empty gym, track, pool and sauna are certainly worthwhile explorations!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (01:04)", "body": "I can get you another week pass on your Austin visit. Still happening right?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (11:16)", "body": "Yes, still happening. And, hey, that might be a grand idea!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  6, 1998 (10:23)", "body": "early morning run. a bit nippy but clear and beautiful. took a new route and was a little disappointed in the first mile until I returned home and noticed the 10% grade that I had climbed! snowshoeing in Estes Park tomorrow!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (10:39)", "body": "Went for a skate Wednesday afternoon/evening. I had planned on a 10-mile out and back (just a quick muscle mover) but my competitive nature got the best of me. When I arrived at the hill up to Chatfield Dam, there were two men skating ahead. Well, I had to see if I could pass them. And when it looked as if they were going to continue up the sttep grade... well, I had to also. Once I beat them to the top *giggle* I stopped and chatted with them for awhile and they talked about a new route back to the Platte path. It added another few miles but I discovered a new trail and new rates of speed coming down from those hills (yikes!) Total a little over 18 miles. Felt good."}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Mar 28, 1998 (21:43)", "body": "We're back, the spring.net domain name transfer brought us to our knees today. But we're back. And beautiful."}, {"response": 54, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (13:39)", "body": "and what's so significant about confusion on your end WER?? *smile*"}, {"response": 56, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (20:19)", "body": "Sweating wise: Spent all day Saturday on the MTB (between trailriding, commuting and screwing around we got in about 30 miles) Lesuire skate with a couple of girlfriends on Sunday (not very far, not very fast) And, after the drastic temperature drop (and 3 inches of snow) I'm back to the gym tonight."}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (20:19)", "body": "Spent a lot of time on the basketball court with my son, who's 6'%\" and has an intimidating slam dunk. Wore me out!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (20:19)", "body": "I'm figuring it should read 6'5\"? What can I say? Stay in his face with yer hands up! My son's about 3'1\", but since watching \"SpaceJam\" 20 million times or so has all the basics down...wears me out too!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (12:28)", "body": "5\" is correct. 6-5. And he has this awwsome reverse slam dunk. I tried the hands in the face trick to not much avail, it's hard to get my hand in someones face who is over the rim somewhere near Telstar 5."}, {"response": 60, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 18, 1998 (18:55)", "body": "after the illness from hell (from which I still have not recovered my voice -- some say it's sexy so I might try and develop the gravelly sound a bit) I was told minimal exercise. I believed minimal to be four times a week but... it has not worked out as planned. A very easy MTB ride, some gardening and a seven mile skate have completely downed me again. Anyone else have more success today?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "jgross5", "date": "Tue, May 19, 1998 (04:45)", "body": "Watched some dolphins on TV swimming around very fast. Wore me out. Had to turn it off and lie down. Still haven't caught my breath. How long does this take? Probably depends on the sofa."}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (08:37)", "body": "Thursday's the big day, moving in to the new house. I called the pool cleaners yesterday and had them set up a weekly appointment. It's going to be a \"swimming summer\"!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (16:42)", "body": "WooWoo!"}, {"response": 64, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (16:42)", "body": "I am on a fitness binge again... sneaking in skates during lunch, a run here and a bike ride after work. In three weeks I think I'll enter an inline marathon (either that or a foothill century ride). I certainly miss some of my old routines from Austin but nothing beats cycling in the mountains! Today I snuck in a 12 mile skate between summer school and the computer center and took a 32 mile bike ride after coming home to an empty house. I figure if I wipe myself out good and completely, I shall really be able to take full advantage of the jacuzzi bathtub!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (09:46)", "body": "What's a good place to pick up a low end bike in Austin, one that would be good for street and dirt. Any brand recommendations?"}, {"response": 66, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Aug  8, 1998 (17:53)", "body": "I had the BEST skate (well one of the best anyway!) I skated along the Platte River up to Confluence Park at a nice lesuirely pace... no racing today! Too lazy to explain it all now, but my legs and whole body felt really strong... I feel really good now! (29 miles roundtrip)"}, {"response": 67, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (09:52)", "body": "Specialized makes a good range of bikes. Sounds like you would want a Hard Rock. Can fit knobby or slick tires (off road and on road) sits more upright so it is not as ideal for aggressive trail riding but can certainly take you through Zilker! Go visit Bicycle Sport Shop already!!!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (10:19)", "body": "Is this a good bike for someone my size, Stace'? Any particular model Hard Rock?"}, {"response": 69, "author": "TIM", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (06:00)", "body": "I'd suggest you try Buck's Bikes on Jollyville Rd. They have a good selection and good prices."}, {"response": 70, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 12, 1998 (10:01)", "body": "try out a few types Paul, cause all frames and frame makers are a bit different. Trek or Kona might be better for someone with a long torso like you (they CERTAINLY don't fit me!)"}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 12, 1998 (11:28)", "body": "What's you height?"}, {"response": 72, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 12, 1998 (12:17)", "body": "5'2\""}, {"response": 73, "author": "jgross", "date": "Fri, Nov 13, 1998 (10:13)", "body": "I remember when I was 5'2\" those were the best years of my life everything seemed to work out just fine but then my workouts went so well too just pick-up baseball and basketball and football games with friends after school and on weekends and at night I'd go up to Rec Hall at Penn State hardly ever got kicked out lotsa stuff to do there indoor track, way up high, that went around the main gym lotsa basketball courts squash courts, handball courts, raquetball courts weight rooms badminton is intense indoors during a special Christmas 2 week period, every year, kids got coaching on indoor track stuff (with races), and even boxing (with headgear and bloody noses and real short rounds and no more'n 3) and there was a summer indoor swimming program for kids who were no taller'n 5'2\" that was taught by Penn State football assistant coaches gymnastics room (trampoline was wide and long, and high up off the floor---like, 4 or 5 feet) and there were these cool belts you could wear that came down from the ceiling ---you'd put 'em on and they could let you be like Peter Pan, swoopin' around through the air---I did get kicked out once for doin' that they were supposed to be used to practice floor exercise routines, and they were hooked to the wall when not in use tennis courts were clear across campus---it was fun to play at night on clay courts one time I played against some women on the tennis team over at their tennis courts they complained about me serving too hard against 'em they weren't like you, Stace if it were you, it'd sure enough be me complainin' about you serving too hard as I get older and more'n and more'n stooped over, I like to think how it's getting me closer to that ultimate height where I can return to the best years of my life and everything'll work out just fine again with great workouts"}, {"response": 74, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Nov 13, 1998 (11:41)", "body": "ah but I shall never achieve that volleyball greatness that comes with physical stature..."}, {"response": 75, "author": "jgross", "date": "Fri, Nov 13, 1998 (12:10)", "body": "we need setters bad good ones with tremendous setter stature tremendous accuracy, quickness, diving ability somebody who can take IV replenishment and get right back in there someone with incredible volleyball instincts if you're that one, we need all your physical stature and all the Stacey you can give"}, {"response": 76, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Nov 13, 1998 (14:19)", "body": "I wish I could just tap into some of her energy..."}, {"response": 77, "author": "TIM", "date": "Sun, Nov 15, 1998 (02:36)", "body": "Stature is not that important when there are six players on the team."}, {"response": 78, "author": "jgross", "date": "Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (13:28)", "body": "a team with Michael Jordan might be alot better'n the same team without him and someone else in his place ---and then applying that idea to volleyball (or staceyball)"}, {"response": 79, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (15:57)", "body": "big hike today, taking advantage of the warm weather!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (22:08)", "body": "In the mountains?"}, {"response": 81, "author": "TIM", "date": "Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (23:15)", "body": "Don't leave us in suspense. Where did you go? What did you see? How long did it take? How do you feel now?"}, {"response": 82, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 17, 1998 (15:16)", "body": "I resigned from my former job and now work in the foothills. Everyday at lunch (weather permitting) I hike up the foothills, into Deer Creek Canyon and up the hogback. I usually see chipmunks and black squirrels but a week or so ago I saw a two-point buck and several does. It's relaxing and invigorating and perspective generating and... just really wonderful. the sunshine on my face in the middle of the day, clean air (not Brown Cloud air), quiet yet naturally noisy..."}, {"response": 83, "author": "TIM", "date": "Tue, Nov 17, 1998 (17:27)", "body": "Sounds good. Do you take the same route every day? If so how far is it?"}, {"response": 84, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 17, 1998 (18:16)", "body": "different routes, different trails... as far as I can run, walk or hike in about 45 minutes!"}, {"response": 85, "author": "TIM", "date": "Tue, Nov 17, 1998 (20:18)", "body": "That's great. I miss wildness. Everything is so tame here in the city. Even the deer will walk right up to you. And I miss the solitude of the trees."}, {"response": 86, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (06:16)", "body": "it was the squirrels that really got me living in Austin... they not only walk right upto you, they climb into your pockets looking for something to eat!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "TIM", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (06:33)", "body": "They haven't done that to me yet, What they have done is to sit in a tree at eye level look me in the eye and chatter at me."}, {"response": 88, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (11:04)", "body": "they climb into your pockets looking for something to eat! hmmm...that sounds familiar... and speaking of, you gonna be in town next week, Stace?"}, {"response": 89, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (18:24)", "body": "yup! I was gonna try and surprise you at LI (since you're always there, I figured my chances were excellent) but seeing as you must pay too damn much attention to my senseless prattle... I guess you already knew I'd be a comin! Flying into Austin late Tuesday eve, heading to SA for Wed - Sat (or Sun) and then in Austin until Wednesday (12/2) gonna be around?"}, {"response": 90, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (19:41)", "body": "Monday after Thanksgiving at work open till close, and Tuesday I work open till 5ish, off on Wednesday..."}, {"response": 91, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (09:46)", "body": "Let's have a little party at my place, what say, Stace' with you, wer, Ray, Tim, Tami, and everyone."}, {"response": 92, "author": "TIM", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (13:54)", "body": "Great idea. Say When!!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (14:01)", "body": "Whenever Stace' can make it. If she's game."}, {"response": 94, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (16:16)", "body": "great idea!"}, {"response": 95, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (14:37)", "body": "GREAT time today playing around on all the exercise equipment I feel so alive, so awake, so fresh, so full of energy... so HUNGRY!"}, {"response": 96, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (15:02)", "body": "You make want to cruise over to the Q."}, {"response": 97, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (18:44)", "body": "did'ya go???"}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 22, 1998 (10:34)", "body": "What's on your workout agenda today Stacey? I'm going to try and get over the Q, it's *freezing cold* here today."}, {"response": 99, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Dec 22, 1998 (15:39)", "body": "skipped the gym today... last minute holiday shopping. Dodging last minute Christmas shoppers was all the exercise I could handle today!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "PT", "date": "Tue, Dec 22, 1998 (17:06)", "body": "Ah yes, the shopping mall hurdles event."}, {"response": 101, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jan  4, 1999 (14:48)", "body": "the gym at work was a madhouse at noon... good thing I went at 11am! I'm really enjoying the fact I can exercise during lunch times here! I always feel so refreshed albeit very hungry by the afternoon! Went hiking on Saturday in the snow at Mt. Falcon... beautiful, beautiful! Yesterday drove up to Eldora and went snowshoeing! Tubbs has an expo and snowshoe rentals and trail passes were free! There really wasn't enough snow to need snowshoes until I went off trail... such fun! Pretty windy and cold up there, I didn't last two hours even!"}, {"response": 102, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan  6, 1999 (20:34)", "body": "short hike during lunch... super muddy but really sunny and warm!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "PT", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (05:25)", "body": "How warm? What was the temperature?"}, {"response": 104, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan  7, 1999 (11:10)", "body": "63 F and dry, dry, dry... geeeeooorgeous!"}, {"response": 105, "author": "PT", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (20:12)", "body": "Where I was at the time it was only 15 degrees warmer. That was in south Florida"}, {"response": 106, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (10:52)", "body": "great little hike during lunch on Monday... to work out all the sore skiing muscles... still warm and sunny and dry here!"}, {"response": 107, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (12:02)", "body": "25 minutes of hard backstroking this morning on an empty stomach at the Q. Gotta do this at least 4 times a week to burn off that excess fat."}, {"response": 108, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (12:32)", "body": "where you been hiding that 'excess fat' Paul???"}, {"response": 109, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (06:31)", "body": "Well I've got a lot of it burned off, but there's still some work to do. Heading to the Q in a little while to burn off some more. Simple theory. Go to the Q first thing in the day on an empty stomach. Drink one cup of *black* coffee. Then work out furiously for 25 minutes, no matter what, just so it's aerobic. Simple, but doesn't it make sense that you have to burn fat when there's nothing else in there to burn? It's working so far. Folks have been making comments, ya know!"}, {"response": 110, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (14:50)", "body": "actually it doesn't make that much sense. Fat is fat soluble. Must have fat to burn fat. Yes, your body will burn adipose tissue, but it takes longer to convert. Plans like that can also backfire, leading to a slower metabolism as well as the hoarding of calories... if your body thinks it's starving, it'll be really stingy with the calories you do give it. Lowering your metabolism. Have a banana Paul... the potassium is excellent for you, the caloric intake is minimal but at least you've got something besides muscle to burn!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (15:20)", "body": "Hey, you're psychic. I bought 3 bunches of bananas at HEB last night. A force just moved me off Riverside into the produce section and on the express lane."}, {"response": 112, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "ahhh... and I am quite a force! *grin*"}, {"response": 113, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (06:34)", "body": "But, Stace, you've shattered all my simplistic notions of working out! They're lying in bits and pieces on the floor. Now I'm scared that I'm \"tricking\" my body by this black coffee 25 minute workout 4 times a week routine. What would you recommend instead? I did have a great swim two days ago and in about an hour I'm heading over to the Q for a 25 minute aerobic workout. I *have* lost a lot of weight doing this and I feel a lot healthier and more pumped up. A lot of folks are commenting that I look better, the improvement over the last 30 days doing this routine has been astonishing. Yesterday, I beat a 6'9\" 20 year old kid playing basketball. And yet you say I'm doing it all wrong?"}, {"response": 114, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:19)", "body": "I'm saying that you're doing it all wrong as far as your body is concerned. It's the only one you have... don't make it work so hard in some ways. Push it to the limit with exercise and continue to allow your positive attitude to affect your body image but... feed it Paul!!! The results you've gone into would be the same if you went on some crackpot crash diet... of course your body will lose weight but once it figures out you're going to continue to deprive it of nutrients (not so much a calorie issue as a nutrient issue), it's gonna start hangin onto every piece of anything you put in your mouth and not let it go. Read SLOW metabolism! As long as you've continued to eat well during the day, you should be fine but a simple banana in the morning could improve your performance and it'll make your body feel better. I know, i know, you're saying you feel great already... I bet you do, endorphins do that to a person! Keep drinking the black coffee but throw a little bone to your system and see hhow it feels!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:28)", "body": "Well, I've been eating normally. But I just thought working out on an empty stomach first thing in the day would burn more fat. Well, I'm working on that bunch of bananas. Hooo hooo."}, {"response": 116, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:29)", "body": "good boy! entering any 'stupid human trick' contests soon? Ironman?"}, {"response": 117, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:34)", "body": "so if I started a equivalent program, I should stir one teaspoon of lard into my black coffee before working out...right?"}, {"response": 118, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "*laugh* sorta. could we try for something with actual nutritional value?"}, {"response": 119, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (19:53)", "body": "On Friday it snowed so fiercely that the Rockies game was postponed until August, Saturday I had to add an extra comforter to the bed, Sunday I worked in the garden without a jacket, today I took a bike ride during lunch (no jacket!!). My 'workouts' for lack of a better word have been sporadic. I guess I was just being kinda lazy. I now have a goal... a dualthlon on May 15. Really short distances but it's been awhile so I think it'll serve as a nice warm-up to an event filled summer. I love the outside, I love the outside... c'mon everyone, sing my happy song!"}, {"response": 120, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "No posts on here recently! I joined a gym for the first time this week. I alsmost didn't get accepted because I've got chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). But 9 years on I'm ready to start really moving again. I'm a bit frustrated because my regime at the moment doesn't stretch me - the gyms being very cautious. So I'm only doing about 20 mins light work. I've been twice this week and feeling OK. When does the weight begin to come off?"}, {"response": 121, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (17:35)", "body": "Hiya Maggie! I got tired of working out by myself... glad you stopped in! The weight starts to come off after your metabolism really believes you've made a lifestyle change... consistency! And, depending on your regime, the scale may not show results as quickly as your body shape. Muscle weighs more than fat but it's also more compact... you'll be firmer before you're lighter. The best part about that is though... lean muscle mass also burns more calories... so... you're body will begin to burn more calories just by existing. Once you hit this point and continue to keep exercising is when you'll begin to notice the serious changes! Is there any active way to treat CFS? Have you modfied your diet with this new workout plan?? What gym did you join? Did you sign up for a personal trainer? Keep us up to date on the progress!"}, {"response": 122, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (13:51)", "body": "Hi Stacey, I'm glad someone was out there! Where do I start? Well, the Gym I've joined is run by our local council (in England). It's got a good local reputation and a lovely view of the river Thames which i enjoyed on the treadmill this morning. I had my induction this week and got a personal trainer who keeps an eye on me, and does reviews, fitness tests and stuff. That's where I hit the CFS problems becuase the Gurus say don't exercise, and the trainer was going by that. I've had it 9 years and I lead a full life, I just have to pace myself Active treatment of CFS. In the UK most of the problem is getting it recognised. Because the hospital thought my adrenal glands were packing up they stuffed me full of steroids. However, that did appear to give me a kick start, and from being a zombie I woke up. I also had a really good physiotherapist. She worked on the premise that if you don't do anything you won't be able to do anything. So she taught my husband passive exercises to do with me, and then encouraged me to take up badminton! All this at a stage where I could hardly get around. But it worked for me. I learnt to recognise the 'stop' signs, and decided that a few bad days were worth the increase in muscle tone. Once i plateaued and didn't seem to be making progress I tried cutting out various foods one at a time. Cutting out wheat made a big difference. now I can eat it, in moderation. Diet. I already eat a healthy, low fat, high fibre diet with lots of raw foods, but can't shift the pounds I put on with the steroids and after. There's been a real metabolism change. Any ideas?"}, {"response": 123, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (16:39)", "body": "How long have you been eating the diet you mentioned? Is it fat tissue that you're trying to lose or have the steriods put more 'bulk' on you as well? As you probably know, body buidlers use steroid type drugs to add girth that they are then able to tone... you may not have fat to lose, but some of that extra tissue... As is always the case, unless you're trying to bulk up (big, thick muscular look) use very light weights for extended repetitions. Even three - five pounds lifted over and over again (I go by time in minutes, not by number of repetitions) will tone those muscles. Stretch often and well to elongate those muscles and to relieve build up of toxins in the tissues (releases stress as well)... You are certainly on the right track! Sounds like you've got the CFS under control... is it at all episodic? Good days and bad days? Any triggers? Glad to have you around Maggie..."}, {"response": 124, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Nov 13, 1999 (05:57)", "body": "I've been on the diet for about seven years. I think I agree about the bulk. Apart form that one episode on steroids i haven't had any for 9 years. But - I heard it takes years for them to be out of the body. I'm doing the stretch exercises on an off during the day. I find it helps to relive tension whilst computing. I sit at my computer for 6-8 hours a day which doesn't help. haven't got into using weights yet. I think that comes laterin the programme. I have a review in 3 weeks time, although I' e decided to increase the levelon the bike (I'm on 0!!) and speed on treadmill (I'm on 3.2 which is far slower than my usual walking speed). My frustration at the moment is the cautiousness of the gym! However, I am grateful to be able to exercise and then being able to work as usual, so it must be OK, and I need to be patient. CFS is episodic for me, but now I hardly remember I have it. I have patches where I feel like I'm wading through treacle and everything is an effort, and everywhere aches. But I know it passes, and it just a matter of living through it. Wheat certainly makes a difference and I know if I've overloaded. Certain flours seem better than others. I think it may be to do with the added chemicals. Stress always pushes me over, especially time pressures."}, {"response": 125, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (11:18)", "body": "I understand your frustration about the slow pace but your body will appreciate the gradual conditioning! How frequently are you going to the gym?"}, {"response": 126, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (13:40)", "body": "BTW, my workouts are going well. The month long hiatus I took to get married, honeymoon and visit relatives has not negatively impacted my fitness level as much as I thought it would and I put in 20+ miles running on Saturday. Today I'll do some easy weights, to continue to counteract those knee issues I've been prone to and maybe run for awhile. Although the weather is SO incredibley unseasonably warm, I may skate."}, {"response": 127, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (18:24)", "body": "Congratulations. Does your husband run too? Hope you had a great honeymoon. I'm trying to go to the gym four times a week. We get to swim free too with our membership, so I went swimming after my workout today because I felt good. It's a small pool but not usually crowded. I like it because it's warm, and that helps my muscles. I upped the treadmill to 4.0 (I don't know what the rates refer to) and my heart rate kept under 130 and it felt much better than the slow speed. I also did 10 minutes instead of 5. So I feel good about it."}, {"response": 128, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (11:13)", "body": "My husband thinks running is 'evil'. Unfortunately it is just about the worst sport for bad knees, but he's trying to be supportive... He's a big cyclist. Road and mountain bikes. For the last few years he's been doing ultra events and the next one is the Ididasport. This race is the equivelant of the Ididarod in Alaska, only on a mountain bike. Congratulations on upping your level and your time! Typically on a treadmill you can increase the speed and/or elevation. So, when you upped it to 4.0, you either increased the slope upon which you are walking or you graduated to 4km/hour."}, {"response": 129, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (13:24)", "body": "I guess I upped it to 4 KM per hour. I decided not to go to the gym today as I felt a bit overstretched after swimming as well yesterday. However, I did do a brisk mile walk to the shops for the paper. Both my girls were runners at school, and both have had knee problems. My youngest daughter's boyfriend was captain of the junior England squad and is encouraging her to gradually get going again. His family are runners and regularly compete. At least I'm getting encouraged not laughed at! My husband is oining me at the gym, although his programme is three times as long as mine which is causing me some frustration (I end up hanging around for him). How often do you run? Do you work out as well?"}, {"response": 130, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 17, 1999 (09:29)", "body": "I run 2-5 times per week... how's THAT for inconsistentcy!? My running schedule always depends on how the knee feels. My longest runs are usually on Saturdays and I take Sunday off. Honestly, I hate gyms, I just don't like being inside and sweating. But in the winter time the gym is a logical choice because I hate being sedentary more! I also rollerblade and mountain bike, although since training for this marathon, I haven't done either since July. I use weights a couple of times per week. Lots of repetitions, VERY little weight usually. At first getting used to using only 8 or ten lbs was difficult for me because I felt like I wasn't pushing my body at all. But after 50+ of anything, I start to feel 'the burn'. Today I woke up at 5am to hit the gym before work... I like starting my day out with the endorphin rush!"}, {"response": 131, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Nov 17, 1999 (14:13)", "body": "I pushed the treadmill up to 15 mins and got to 4.5 (?kms n hour) and the heart rate didn't go above 130, so I think I'm coping well. I also pushed the bike up a level to 1! So I'm feeling quite pleased. I think I just have to be happy with small things - although it's frustrating. Husband has curtailed his workout so that I'm not waiting an hour for him to finish. That helps the frustration too. How far do you run on your 2-5 times a week stints? Have you always run? Our girls began doing 5kms in Africa when they were 10-12 years old, but neither have carried on into adult hood, partly because of injury problems. they also hated running in the cold here."}, {"response": 132, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 18, 1999 (10:19)", "body": "Again, everything depends on the knee. Usually between 3-5 miles (is that like 5K - 8K?) per stint. Lately though I've been between 5-8 per stint and everything feels pretty good. My father used to run when I was little. Five miles every day. I would ride my little pink bicycle behind him, around and around and around the neighborhood. When I was about 10 I started enjoying running in school and I would take short jogs with my father. In junior high school (ages 12-14) I ran with the track team. In college I ran to relieve stress and would participate in 5K and 10K charity runs. I ran my first marathon in March of 1995 and two weeks later in a 10K, I seriously injured my knee. For ecovery (after 8 weeks of doing NOTHING!) I began cycling (with my then boyfriend, now husband). Only in the last year and a half have I started running on a fairly regular basis and only since July have I run exclusive to other physical activities. Today I will hit the gym AFTER work... somedays I prefer sleep to the treadmill!"}, {"response": 133, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 18, 1999 (10:20)", "body": "and pardon me for not mentioning in the last post... Congratulations! ... on increasing your speed and still feeling great!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (05:42)", "body": "My personal trainer rang this morning - and my routine's been upped. I'm now on the bike twice in the session - the second time on the hill programme, and also on hill on the treadmill. So, I'll try it out tomorrow. She's also suggested weights - not sure if thats whilst on the treadmill or separate. I need to book a review session to be taught how to use them. So I'm feeling more positive. Now I've gone and got a cold!"}, {"response": 135, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (11:30)", "body": "Woo Woo! Maggie! (not cheering about the cold of course!) Good luck with the improved regime! I haven't done anything since Saturday. My semi long run (that is supposed to be getting shorter and shorter with the marathon quickly approaching) was a 14-miler but didn't set well with me. Slow pace, just didn't feel 'with it' and I was uncharacteristically sore afterwards. I decided it could be overtraining so I took a few days off. I'm headed to the gym today during lunchtime... just easy, easy, easy though. I hope you feel better soon Maggie!"}, {"response": 136, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "When's the marathon? I read somewhere that people commonly overtrain. This isn't likely to be too much of a problem for me - yet - but what do you mean by that. Is it that muscles need time to recover - lactic acid and stuff?"}, {"response": 137, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (15:10)", "body": "The marathon is in Honolulu, Hawaii. yes, muscles AND joints need time to recover. It's not so much a lactic acid issue... that dissipates after less than a day but when you pound your body's joints with such force, they need a few days at least to swell and heal and the muscles that you may have pulled and torn (that's how your muscles grow... tearing and reforming) need time to gather their strength again. It's analogous to any repetitive stress injury... do it often enough and your body will retaliate! (how's the cold?)"}, {"response": 138, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Nov 24, 1999 (13:56)", "body": "Feeling better today, lots of VitC and echinacea. Decided to go to the gym even though I wasn't on top of the world. Actually felt I worked out today, achey legs this evening. managed the new settings on the treadmill fine. Started with hill level 1 at 4.5 km per hour which was comforatable. Did 15 mins. Then to reclining bike. Tried random level 2 as specified by trainer. Too tough on the thighs, so graded down, and finally ended up on level 0!!! I lasted the ten minutes but it was tough. I can feel the tightness in the tighs now 7 hours later. Next time I'll begin on level 0 and go upwards gently! anyway it feels good. I'm still having trouble keepingmyheart rate down. At the least extra effort it peaks above 136. I'm supposed to keep under 130 beats per minute. I'm not feeling stressed (well, apart from that last bike ride). My resting pulse is normally pretty high ( around 88) and I'm 46. I just hope it'll settle as I continue. I guess if your run is in Hawaii you'll not have to contend with bad weather. We get so cold and damp here it's difficult to do much outside. It's dark by 4pm now, and that's a beginning. How do you avoid overtraining? Do you do different things on different days?"}, {"response": 139, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 24, 1999 (15:18)", "body": "It gets dark here early too since Daylight Savings Time ended... makes me grumpy. Congratulations... that's what I call a 'good hurt' To avoid overtraining I need to rest a bit more and yes, do different things on different days... I'm using muscles that I don't use too much during running... to get my heartrate up and keep the endorphins going but not over fatigue the muscles I really need in a couple of weeks. I've been warned to expect a little rain in Hawaii but the temperatures should be between 60F and 70F for the 5am start... With regard to your heart rate... is the gym trying to keep it around 80 percent of max? Your resting rate should lower as your heart gets more efficient at pumping blood (i.e. as it gets stronger) Glad your feeling better! Now my hubby's got a cold :-("}, {"response": 140, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 30, 1999 (22:47)", "body": "now I've got the cold..."}, {"response": 141, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Dec  1, 1999 (16:53)", "body": "Sorry about that, I suppose it's sort of inevitable. I realised one problem with the heart rate was probably the Sudafed I was taking to dry up the cold. Now I'm not taking it the heart rate's settled. I managed level 2 random on the reclining bike today, it was a bit of a push but OK. So I must be getting stronger. I have a review next Wednesday. My trainer was not available when I was, so I'm with the gym manager - the guy who overruled her about me. So I'm very happy about that. We talked about be inning some weights. I want to do some upper body and abs. That's all positive isn't it! Unfortunately (well, sort of) we go on holiday the day after the review so I won't have a chance to put the new programme into practice until after Xmas. But at least I can set it up. Is the cold hampering the marathon prep?"}, {"response": 142, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec  1, 1999 (18:22)", "body": "the cold kind of hampers everything... not really hurting the marathon prep... I should be resting a good bit anyway. I did go to the gym yesterday... I just walked on the treadmill at 4 miles/hour for 20 minutes. Te slow pace got me moving but didn't make my heart beat race... I think it was the best thing to do. Where are you going on holiday? Will you exercise while you're away??"}, {"response": 143, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Dec  2, 1999 (14:12)", "body": "We're going to a place called Rock in Cornwall (far West of Britain). Its really a small sailingplace (we don't) on the river estury. Lots of craggy scenery and peace and quiet We're borrowing a holiday home of some folk who are happy to have people in it out of season. I think the only exercise I'll get will be walking, but that's OK. Christmas is usually a down time as far as exercise goes for me. I try and stick to the diet and get going again aftrerwards. By the way - I lost two pounds and it's st ying off. That's the first loss for months. Hope you feel better soon. What's the actual date of the marathon?"}, {"response": 144, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec  2, 1999 (18:40)", "body": "Congrats on your loss Maggie! I AM feeling much better today... thanks for the well wishes. I took a morning run (just a few miles) and that kinda cleared me up a little. The marathon is on December 12th! At five a.m. Marcia's time! I think I'll skip the gym tonight... and save the energy to play with my hubby!"}, {"response": 145, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Dec  3, 1999 (17:27)", "body": "Good idea. Mine's a PhD widower, so going to the gym together is FUN!!! Cold's better but the gym was a bit of a slog this morning. I'll be on holiday when you run the marathon, but I'll think of you. What time are you aiming for?"}, {"response": 146, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec  6, 1999 (13:37)", "body": "originally I was aiming for under four hours... but now that I've been running every week with Dawn, I'm just going to run with her the whole time and whenever we finish, we finish. Have a GREAT holiday!"}, {"response": 147, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Dec  7, 1999 (15:05)", "body": "Thanks. Tomorrow's the big day for the re-programme. 8.30 in the morning is not my best time. I just bope the heart rate stays down and that lets me expand my programme. I'm hoping for abs and weights. I'll post in tomorrow night with results and then - I'm off."}, {"response": 148, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Dec  7, 1999 (16:26)", "body": "I ran for 75 minutes yesterday during lunch (before the big holiday pig-out... I mean party) and I'll go after work today for an hour or so. I will probably put in a few miles on Wednesday and just walk on Thursday (for my MENTAL conditioning) and then we're off at 6am Friday morning... no more exercise until Sunday at 5am! good luck keeping the HR down tomorrow morning!"}, {"response": 149, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Dec  8, 1999 (15:43)", "body": "I had a good re-programme, really clicked with the instructor - she listened to me!!!! We added the air-bike as warm up, kept the other settings on reclining bike and treadmill, added two upper body weights machines, which I coped with fine, and the cross-trainer (ski machine) for 2-5 mins only, oh and some abdominal floor exercises. I felt fine and felt I could cope with the added challenge without killing myself. BP down to 108/84, heart rate behaved well. And I've lost a kilo (2.2lbs) on their weigh ng machine. I'm pleased. Best of luck for the weekend. I'll be thinking of you. Bye till after christmas"}, {"response": 150, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  9, 1999 (09:54)", "body": "Y'all are inspiring me to get back to working out at the Q, as soon as I finish building the cottage and cabin, which is my main exercise now. I get in a lot of walking on my little construction project out in the country."}, {"response": 151, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec  9, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "I leave tomorrow at 6am... eek!"}, {"response": 152, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec  9, 1999 (17:21)", "body": "Bon Voyage, Stacey, and Aloha! Go for it!!! I posted relevant information in Geo or Newa/weather and also in Team Leukemia. I have called off all rain dances and blessings as this is getting ridiculous! Weather is cool and rainy at the moment Will Brandon be going with you? (He should for your moment of glory in the Aloha State...!)"}, {"response": 153, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec  9, 1999 (18:25)", "body": "Brandon will be going with me and thanks for the bon voyage party... I posted this in the Team Leukemia topic but I will post again here: As many of you are aware, I leave tomorrow morning to participate in the Honolulu marathon. I am running to raise money for the Leukemia Society. Thank you to those of you who have supported me with encouragement and kind words. A special thanks to those of you who have donated money to the Leukemia Society to help fund the finding of a cure for this disease. Although I am still shy of my fundraising goal of $4200 by a considerable amount, the money seems trivial compared with the news I received today. Gage Risley, my seven year-old patient honoree, is in Children's Hospital in Denver right now and will have a bone marrow transplant tomorrow morning. He has gone through seven days of chemotherapy to eradicate good and bad cells from his body and hopefuly the new marrow he receives tomorrow will produce new cancer free cells to replace the old. Gage has not been responding well to treatment and the marrow transplant is a last resort. Please keep Gage and his family in your thoughts... Again, thank you to all of you who have contributed to making other more aware of this disease and to help find a cure. If you care to make a tax deductible contribution to the Leukemia Society, or know someone who would, please send checks (made payable to The Leukemia Society) to me at: Stacey Tinianov 5864 S Huron St Littleton, CO 80120 Thanks, Stace"}, {"response": 154, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (11:15)", "body": "well the run went great and I felt fine afterwards... but I was kinda sluggish for a week I finally got back to the gym on Sunday afternoon and went again yesterday during lunch. No running yet... I'm giving it two weeks... but I used the elliptical trainer and restarted a weight program... small weights LOTSA reps. I feel full of energy and ready to do another marathon but doctors/coaches/trainers all say give it a few months so that my body can rest and repair and then retrain again..."}, {"response": 155, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (11:35)", "body": "So what will your workout be now? How will it change?"}, {"response": 156, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "easy on the running for awhile... let the joints heal maintain knee strengthening exercises return to some of the quad and calf and butt exercises I had eliminated as I neared the marathon add some real life cycling (on a real live bike, not the exercycle) play on the elliptical trainer (easier on the knees) I think I'll bring my skates to San Antonio seeing as ice and snow shouldn't be a problem..."}, {"response": 157, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (10:38)", "body": "What about swimming?"}, {"response": 158, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (18:50)", "body": "Hi I'm back from holiday. I daren't go near the scales for a week or two!!! I just slobbed for the duration apart from a little gentle walking. We plan to go to the gym tomorrow and I can try out my new programme. Glad to hear you feel fit and well after the run Stacey. How's Gage Risely doing?"}, {"response": 159, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (11:18)", "body": "I haven't heard from his mother yet, he is still in the hospital, which is to be expected... I will let you all know as soon as I find out new information. (thanks for asking Maggie!)"}, {"response": 160, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (13:34)", "body": "Thanks for info. I overdid it on Monday, and I'm still suffering! My husband had his reprogram so rather than hang around I did my full program for the first time - including weights and cross trainer. Stupid me! I think it was the cross trainer that was the problem. I managed four and half minutes this time, but my thighs are still quite painful. I haven't had this after using bikes so I guess that's it. Got mad because hubby has gone for a five day program and we didn't talk about it. Silly really but I was frustr ted as I'm coping well with three days and didn't want to push it too far too quickly. I'm dependent on him for transport to the gym so I can't do my own thing. I've decided that if I do go on the other days I'll just do walking and maybe some biking, and leave my fuller program on the three days as at present. If the pool's open maybe I'll swim. This week the thames has flooded and is up over the park by the gym. The ducks love it! Did you have a good holiday?"}, {"response": 161, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (17:33)", "body": "sounds like someone misread the words to White Christmas and you got stuck with a Wet Christmas instead! At least the ducks are happy! We had a great holiday but I didn't get much exercise in either. If walking around the shopping center counts, I did plenty but otherwise I only managed one hour long run (on Friday morning). A friend of mine bought rollerblades yesterday so today during lunch we went in the employee parking lot and taught her to skate! She's doing very well, just needs some time and practice learning how to use the brake. But the weather was beautiful... sixty degrees (F) and sunny! Walking or swimming sounds like a great way to fill in those extra days! I can see how you would be frustrated with him but honestly, I wish someone would drag my bum to the gym five days a week! And how was your holiday?? Besides being lazy!"}, {"response": 162, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jan  5, 2000 (15:00)", "body": "Found my way here thanks to Marcia. The rollerblades sound fun. Glad you had a good holiday. Mine - One word - fluey virus!!! Not at Christmas, but just as I was about to get going again - explained why I felt so iffy when I last went to the gym. Went to the gym today for the first time for a week. Felt a bit stiff today but majored on bike and treadmill with the light weights. Feel OK tonight so haven't overdone it. Had thought about swimming as well, but decided against it. The leisure centre has a diddy (small) pool, not good for serious swimming, but after gym its fine as a cool down - it's nice and warm, and so are the changing rooms. Trouble with shopping centres is that you just amble, but its tiring!"}, {"response": 163, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jan  7, 2000 (13:56)", "body": "Guess wot! - I cycled (stationary bike) 15 kms yesterday. A real first. Watching TV whilst cycling really does help!!!! (Yeah I know I'm soft)"}, {"response": 164, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan  7, 2000 (14:04)", "body": "Soft, nothing! You cycled 15 km. Better than I did, but with the flu I cough a lot when I get winded and I do not need to break more ribs. Mine is on hold!"}, {"response": 165, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jan  7, 2000 (18:31)", "body": "Take care. Didn't do so well today, managed 3.5km. It's so much more difficult at home than in the gym."}, {"response": 166, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan  7, 2000 (19:01)", "body": "I know...wrong atmosphere and no shame in stopping early if no one will find out. I need the dicipline of someone looking to see that I have stayed the course, though I do well enough if Iknow I have something definite as a goal...like really great hiking friends coming for a visit... But, lacking that, I have problems getting motivated! I have eased off until I stop coughing so much that I get terrible headaches."}, {"response": 167, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan  9, 2000 (09:28)", "body": "I played football out in the street yesterday."}, {"response": 168, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Jan  9, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "I haven't done that since i was a kid :-) we played irish rules which meant it was sort of a mix between footer and rugby - oh sorry did you mean American football???? different animal entirely (yuk! yuk!)"}, {"response": 169, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan  9, 2000 (15:42)", "body": "Hope it was touch or flag football, Terry. You could get really messy knees on the pavement otherwise. How're ya feeling today? Yup, Maggie, it's gridiron!"}, {"response": 170, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jan 10, 2000 (13:48)", "body": "I'm feeling pleased with myself, started some other weights today - inner and out thighs - hope it does some good!!! Doing low weights lots of repititions. Cycled 10km, plus treadmill. Still not losing weight though! I think I'd ache for a week if I played any kind of football."}, {"response": 171, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (18:38)", "body": "I, uh, guess I started something with weight ages ago..."}, {"response": 172, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "I'm still trying to get voluptuous but all I get is where I don't want it to be. Now, if we could just rearrange what we have..."}, {"response": 173, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jan 12, 2000 (17:35)", "body": "Thanks for making me feel better!!! I was feeling really fed up beacause despite my dedication at the gym I'm STILL not losing any weight - and yes I am eating properly. Is there a condition called computer addicts bum? (oops is that a naughty word for you? sorry)"}, {"response": 174, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (12:55)", "body": "Hey, who said voluptuous? I meant burdened! ;=}"}, {"response": 175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (13:17)", "body": "Alexander, I think your burdens are business-related and there is no exercise other than exorcise to get rid of them ;) Maggie, heavens...bum is a great word. No offense at all. You should hear what I hear over here for that part...unless you like the Hawaiian version, Okole, which is acceptable in polite society."}, {"response": 176, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (14:01)", "body": "Oh I like that one - how do you pronounce it? Oh-ko-lay?"}, {"response": 177, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (14:12)", "body": "oh-KOH-lay....and for a toast when drinking the words are Okole Maluna ( which translates as \"bottoms up!\" maluna = mah-LOO-nah"}, {"response": 178, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (14:14)", "body": "Is the penultimate syllable always stressed?"}, {"response": 179, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (14:47)", "body": "Almost Always...there are times when in a lengthy word (much like Welsh and German, they string descriptive adjectives together in one fused word), that there are secondary stresses. Exceptions which come to mind immediately are Haleakala (the East Maui volcano) = HA-lay-ah-kah-LA with the ultimate syllable getting the most stress. The other which comes to mind is Hualalai, a volcano on our island which almost everyone mispronounces: It is, correctly, hoo-ah-LAH-lie. But everyone says hoo-ah-la-LIE. Including me, because I heard it that way for a LOT of years be fore I was clued in that it was incorrect."}, {"response": 180, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (15:57)", "body": "Interesting. Do you speak Hawaian fluently? Does the % of speakers fluctuate around the islands? Off topic I know, but I'm interested. On topic: still arguing with hubby about the gym. He's keen to go five times a week - I'm content with three. Gives my tired muscles a rest in between bouts of exercise. I did thigh weights yesterday. Do I know it today!! That's with only light weights and three repetitions. It's supposed to tone the flab. I'm comforting myself with the thought that my fat is turning into muscle and that's why I'm not losing weight!!!"}, {"response": 181, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (21:09)", "body": "I speak hardly any Hawaiian, understand slightly more, but have a keen ear for pronounciations. I think it is the height of insult to live in a culture and not pronounce the words correctly. John is great at Hawaiian. He has actually studied it whereas I am strictly self-taught. It was a dying art, speaking Hawaiian, but they have reintroduced it into the schools so it is being spoken by a new generation - leaving those of us in the middle the only ones incapable of holding a conversation in it. Yes, Maggie, my dear, you are getting svelte but you cannot tell because you are turning the jiggle into something of greater weight and of infinitely greater appeal. Great!"}, {"response": 182, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jan 14, 2000 (13:28)", "body": "The jiggle was definitely tired jiggle today. I struggled through an hour of programme, rowed (that's argue not row row) with hubby (again!) and puttered home where I have been adhering to my computer chair for hours."}, {"response": 183, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jan 14, 2000 (13:30)", "body": "By coincidence I was reading an article on the linguistic situation in Hawaii last night, in a library book I got out for something else. I'll post in Hawaii topic in travel."}, {"response": 184, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 14, 2000 (14:16)", "body": "I know about adhering to the computer seat...*lol* Resident male is sure it is attached permanently, evev though he has inspected me closely enough to know it is not the fact. Actually, it is more like a magnet. Any time I pass the room going on my way elsewhere, I always swoop in to check for new mail and posts. If I find any, it might be quite a while before I emerge again. Going to Travel to check your post in Hawaii..."}, {"response": 185, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (15:57)", "body": "It's hard going just now. Only managed 40 mins this morning and it felt like I was wading through mud. So just had a gentle bike ride and 10 mins on the treadmill. Fed up."}, {"response": 186, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (16:11)", "body": "Oh Maggie I hope your not terribly discouraged... this is just a plateau for sure! Vary your routine a little so you can get excited about exercise again! Sorry for my extended absence... I couldn't find my way here! I have been going to the gym and I've started running again with my marathon buddy... now Wednesday nights because the weekends are for skiing (for her, not me!) I did go skiing for the first time right after new year's... I LOVED IT! Still, it is very expensive so I will only go occassionally when I feel like spending lots of money... On the 8th I entered my first snowshoe race... the breckenridge Snowshoe Skeddadle. What fun! I ran the 3K and thought I was going to die! The altitude is over 10,000 feet in Breckenridge... The most hysterical part is I won second place in my division! Tonight I'm going to the gym again... B is coming with me this time (he also came last Friday)... such fun to have him along! C'mon Maggie... keep it up!"}, {"response": 187, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (17:25)", "body": "Thanks, glad you found your way back. Marcia kept me company for while while you were 'lost'. Really I'm not doing too badly. I even managed two minutes on the cross-trainer and i'm not aching all over this time. If that's what skiing's like - well! I have another reprogramme booked for thurs. I don't expect too much change this time - but I'm with yet another trainer, my last one left the gym. I think it took ages to pick up after the bug I had at Christmas, which was why I felt so low earlier. I ve increased my protein intake and reduce carbohydrates. I'm still not shifting the weight which was making me feel bad. Still I haven't felt hungry all day with the extra protein. We'll see. Wow that snowrace sounds something. I guess you'd have to expend a lot more energy. Great you've got company at the gym - is he enjoying it or competitive?"}, {"response": 188, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (11:06)", "body": "He only has a five-day pass and is not competitive there at all. He's preparing for the Iditabike in Alaska and will probably have to spend some time pushing the bike so he's trying to simulate that at the gym. I took a spin class last night while he was on the elliptical trainer... what fun! The cycling class really helps me focus on my form without worrying about cars or rocks or bumps, etc... You drove a trainer to quit his job?!?!? You must be a demanding one *grin* Glad your're still pretty upbeat... try not to focus on the weight right now... remember, you are adding YEARS to your life!!"}, {"response": 189, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (14:01)", "body": "Yeah, I keep telling myself! and the he was a she - and I'm sad because she was nice. We went to the gym early (like 8 a.m.!) on Monday. I was worried it'd be full of beefy males, but it wasn't (ah). We're going to try REALLY early this week - 6.30 a.m. as T is teaching from 8.40 a.m. each morning. Don't know if my usual bleary eyed state can take it, but it is nice to get back early and not lose the whole morning. So, here goes tomorrow. What's the elliptical trainer? Sounds like you sort of go in circles - lol!"}, {"response": 190, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (16:32)", "body": "yep! Your legs move in an elliptical motion as opposed to straight up and down like a stair stepper or just horizontally like on a treadmill. The elliptical is supposed to be eaiser on your knees while working your entire body... there are handles as well that you push..."}, {"response": 191, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (17:12)", "body": "I know what you mean about the knees!"}, {"response": 192, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (00:20)", "body": "I think any number of active people know about knees. It is truly frightening to go to an Episcopal church and listen to the knees crunching as they kneel for prayer."}, {"response": 193, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (10:34)", "body": "I've been continuing with the exercises that help keep my knees happy and so far... excellent results! Tonight I run with my marathon buddy. We've decided that Wednesday evening is a good time for both of us. I'm still motivated more by the social interaction but whatever works! Have you gotten a new program yet Maggie?? Marica, do you exercise? If so, what do you do?"}, {"response": 194, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Feb  1, 2000 (12:30)", "body": "Paul... in switching to the new server, we've lost the last twenty posts... can we get them back??"}, {"response": 195, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb  1, 2000 (23:13)", "body": "Want me to post them or send them to you? I have them."}, {"response": 196, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (11:26)", "body": "Sure! And who knows Maggie's email address... gotta tell her about the big move!"}, {"response": 197, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (13:18)", "body": "I did yesterday since we email semi-regularly and she sent me one asking for HELP! getting onto Spring."}, {"response": 198, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (13:19)", "body": ""}, {"response": 199, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (13:23)", "body": "About those missing posts...Want me to post them or shall I send them to you for posting and editing? Let me know, and you wishes shall become fact!"}, {"response": 200, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (13:34)", "body": "Just throwing them up here would be fine... we could preface it with... items lost in the time warp... or some such introduction because I'm not sure there is an easy way to snuggle them into their appropriate chronological order... Whatever is easiest for you since you're doing all the work! (THANKS!)"}, {"response": 201, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (13:55)", "body": "Hi I'm here! Seems a bit of a muddle lately. Got a bit of a problem - blood pressure's been up. Am going to get it checked before I exercise during the next week and if it's still up go and see doctor. Feel Ok though."}, {"response": 202, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (14:17)", "body": ""}, {"response": 203, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (14:19)", "body": "These are the posts which got lost in the transfer of Spring from one server to another: Response 194 of 195: Maggie (sociolingo) * Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (15:31) * 1 lines New program tomorrow - ?rowing machine this time, or is that too ambitious?? More toning weights anyway. I'm feeling really good on the high protein, low carbohydrate diet. Don't know if I'm losing weight, but at least I don't feel hungry and my blood suger seems to be behaving so my brain seems to be working better too! Glad you're having the interaction Stacey - it does make a difference doesn't it. Marcia - do you take the computer chair to the gym???? (I think mine's permanently stuck) lol! Response 195 of 195: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (15:43) * 2 lines My main exercises consist of climbing things the big guys can't reach from the ground - hanging banners to stringing wires. I also crouch, stretch, push and pull heavy things all in the name of preparing the gym, civic auditorium or softball venue for games and taking it all down afterward. This happens several times a week during the academic year and it seems to keep me working better than some kids a lot of younger volunteers (commandeers, actually!). I know I need longer sustained activity but it is something I am not motivated to do so I begin and lose interest quickly. If my son ever gets my W95 laptop back to me with a fixed case I will be happy. Then it will go to baseball, softball and basketball games. You would not believe the lengths of modem cord I have stashed on reels just so I can get onto Spring! Response 196 of 196: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (15:52) * 1 lines I need a hiking buddy, actually. It is my sport and my love for outdoor activities. Alas, I hang around much older people who \"do not hike!\" Response 197 of 198: stacey leigh tinianov (stacey) * Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (16:53) * 7 lines Mmmm... hiking... lots to be had here in Colorado! It's good that you do something aerobic to get that heart rate up. Sadly enough a lot of people believe that if you're skinny, you must be fit. Not so... you're heart muscle NEEDS exercise as well to be as efficient as possible! good luck with the new program Maggie! I'll be running tonight in the cold... no snow though... maybe by tomorrow Response 198 of 198: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (17:18) * 2 lines You're right. I get just as out if shape (getting winded easily) when I get out of running around the ball fields. Gotta pant a lot for a decent length of time before you can do the stairs up to the field 2-at-a-time without breathing hard. Running up and down the stadium is good exercise, too. It is MY time of year. When I get to the top I am rewarded by a view of the entire southeast rift of Kilauea and I can see the various pu'us making vapor clouds like conical chimneys. Response 199 of 200: stacey leigh tinianov (stacey) * Thu, Jan 27, 2000 (10:06) * 3 lines That's a big, big payoff! My run last night WAS in the snow. We received about 3 inches between 3:30 and 6:30 and it came down all during our run. very pretty! Response 200 of 200: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 27, 2000 (10:45) * 1 lines Man, that snow must have been blinding! Response 201 of 201: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jan 27, 2000 (11:28) * 1 lines Stace runs with a St Bernard along side. He is outfitted with a keg of mulled merlot...just in case! That kind of snow sounds lovely, and on all of those Colorado Blue Spruce, it should have been like running through a fairytale. I'd have been right along beside you! Response 202 of 204: Maggie (sociolingo) * Thu, Jan 27, 2000 (12:58) * 6 lines I can't even begin to imagine running in the snow!!! Marcia was joking about the St Bernard wasn't she? I have this really funny picture of you now Marcia swinging around on wires and things. Good reprogram this afternoon. Yes, I have begun on the rowing machine. Funny thing was at that point this 'older' lady started joshing my trainer, i thought it was a bit funny - then he told me it was his mum!!!! He's also added some arm weights - you know tone up that dreaded under upper arm area, and shown me how to write my own programs for the treadmill. At least he recognises I have a brain!! I'm going to have some fun designing my own 'virtual' runs (well, walks). Next major rehaul of program is in 6-8 weeks. T had a nasty fall at work and has a ?hairline fracture of his left elbow and a badly strained right wrist. Rather inhibited his gym routine, so he's just doing treadmill and bike. A side note - after waiting three hours in accident and emergency dept of our local hospital - they sent him home without even a support bandage!!! Response 203 of 204: stacey leigh tinianov (stacey) * Thu, Jan 27, 2000 (13:42) * 7 lines how horrible! I hope he is feeling better soon. Did the hospital staff give him any advice on how to nurse either his elbow or wrist back to health? Congratulations on your new program Maggie! Sounds like just the spice you need to pep up the "}, {"response": 204, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (14:20)", "body": "End of posts from the old server If I missed any, let me know!"}, {"response": 205, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (16:28)", "body": "Maggie's email is sociolingo@hotmail.com"}, {"response": 206, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (09:27)", "body": "Now, we're on the new server."}, {"response": 207, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (14:21)", "body": "Yippee! Looking good!"}, {"response": 208, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (16:52)", "body": "I played badminton today for the first time in ten years - now why can't I pick things up with my right hand, I ache! Seriously it was good fun ,even though I did get beat three games to one by my daughter."}, {"response": 209, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (16:55)", "body": "how's the blood pressure? no workout today... Tuesday night... outside run with my marathon buddy... 6 miles Wednesday night... 35 minutes on the elliptical... no weights I'll go tomorrow during lunch for 40 minutes or so of exercise... Maggie are you on meds for your BP or do you control it with diet and stress reduction, etc.?"}, {"response": 210, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (16:57)", "body": "Ah, you were being diplomatic and letting her win, perhaps?! Good game but you have to have an even playing field. I know someone who backed over a trash can chasing a shuttlecock...not a pretty sight! (But, it WAS funny!) You must have used muscles you haven't used in a while or did it give you instantaneous CT problems?!"}, {"response": 211, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Feb  4, 2000 (14:39)", "body": "Ow I'm still hurting. I'm using my RSI hand barce and that helps a bit. I really didn't feel anything at the time but do now! I wish I could say that I was massaging her ego - sorry, it was just my out of practice playing. Had the BP checked this a.m. and it was fine. We agreed I'd get it checked again next week just to make sure. I've never had a BP problem before. I did wonder if the high protein/low carbo diet might have driven it up. Managed 1000m on the rowing machine this morning - despite the dogy arm. Hubby got fed up with me on the leg push up machine and insisted on increasing the weight as I was pushing to fast! (this is the one you lie on your back like having a baby! Different pushing motion though!)"}, {"response": 212, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (14:22)", "body": "hope the hand feels better soon! not too much activity this weekend... B had a race Saturday night... I just shivered... Short run yesterday morning... Getting ready for a lunchtime run... beautiful outside right now!"}, {"response": 213, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (18:58)", "body": "Really struggled this morning. I don't know why Monday mornings seem worse than others. Left after half an hour. Will try again tomorrow."}, {"response": 214, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "take it as it comes... can't work at 110% all the time! Tomorrow will certianly be much better... I know these things! *grin* BTW, what did you do in that 1/2 hour?? I'm running again... signed up for another marathon in March... A trail challenge this time!"}, {"response": 215, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (19:17)", "body": "Thanks for the encouragement! I did 5 mins warm up on the bike, then floor stretches, then 10 mins on treadmill varied programme, then onto toning weights machines and did bar pull downs (30 reps at 35lbs) and arm pushes (40reps at 35lbs) followed lastly by leg pushes but only managed 9 pushes today. Difficult to describe the machines if you don't know them. Then I did the abs exercizes on the floor, followed by cool down floor exercizes. Put like that it sounds quite a lot!! I found some nice cycle shorts in the supermarket this evening, so that'll perk me up a bit. You're a glutton for punishment - another marathon so soon? Where's this one?"}, {"response": 216, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (19:25)", "body": "this one is in my own backyard (so to speak) It will be held at Chatfield State Park on March 11th. I can see Chatfield (spit on it if I were so inclined) from work! And the park is only 10 or so miles from my house. The course is a 13.1 mile loop, so two loops for me. There are three events that day running simeltaneously, a half-marathon (13/1 miles) marathon (26.2 miles) and a double marathon (52.4 miles) so I'm not EVEN the biggest glutton! Does sound like you accomplished quite a bit a the gym! Congratulations! I think I am familiar with your machines... bar pull down = lat machine (long bar above your head that you pull down either in front of your body to your chest or behind you to the middle of your back) leg pushes = quad and butt machine (lie on your back, slightly tilted and push out from a squat-like position) Arm pushes... hmmm... maybe I don't have a clue about this one. I know an arm pulling machine... where you sit and pull towards your boob area... is this the opposite?"}, {"response": 217, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb  8, 2000 (13:50)", "body": "You got them! I think I did mean arm pulls! I also hae two leg ones - one you straddle and push outwards, the other is the opposite. There are two 'fine' arm muscle machines too (I could have used free weights for these but chose the machine). I guess these machines are pretty standard. So the marathon is just over a month away. I guess that's not too bad for preparation time is it?"}, {"response": 218, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Feb  8, 2000 (16:01)", "body": "not too good either really... I didn't lose TOO much fitness after the last marathon but I'll need to build fast, as I should be tapering already very soon. Went rollerblading today at lunch with a friend... it's not running but mental health is just as important as physical health at this point! Did you have a better session today at the gym, Maggie? Any hikes lately Marcia? Paul, are you still swimming? Too chilly for Barton Springs?"}, {"response": 219, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb  8, 2000 (16:09)", "body": "Oops - felt really weary this morning and stayed in bed instead of going to the gym. I'll try again tomorrow."}, {"response": 220, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb  8, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "Only through the Gym back and forth hauling stuff (good for upper body toning) and chasing myself up and down the stadium stairs. I'd like to go again tonight as I can feel the tightness wearing off and I gotta keep at it to do any good. Much druther find a good hiking partner, but not sure who would be \"acceptable\" and still be able to hike (like a 99 year old man/woman?!)...*sigh* Sounds like an ankle-twister, Stacey. Are the running paths packed earth or blacktop?"}, {"response": 221, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (13:09)", "body": "no asphalt or cement!! mostly packed earth but some rough trails as well. Ankle support will be imperative! I'm thinking another rollerblade at lunch would set me right... Maggie! We all have mornings like that... better get your bum outta bed tomorrow though! *grin*"}, {"response": 222, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (13:44)", "body": "Too right I did! I feel quite pleased with myself - I rowed 1000m in just under 6 minutes. My record. The gym has a 2000 metres challenge on for the next few weeks. It's in age grops and sexes and you have ten attempts to get your fastest speed. If I can manage the 2000m (in one go) then I think I'll have a go. At least I'll be in the veterans class!!!!! Oh, I also lost another two pounds, that makes 6 in three weeks. An uneven surface sounds quite difficult for running. My girls used to run on packed earth in bare feet!!! (Couldn't do it now, they've grown too soft)"}, {"response": 223, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (13:59)", "body": "Stace, when does Brandon do his Iditabike? After watching crazies doing downhill on mountain bikes on the X Games last night, I thought of him and wondered if you were mushing north soon."}, {"response": 224, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (15:36)", "body": "we leave a week from tonight... the Iditabike starts on the 19th! the uneven surface is a bit difficult but... all in good fun! Congrats Maggie on a fabulous workout! Go for the 2000! A little competition always fuels those muscles!"}, {"response": 225, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (16:27)", "body": "I'll be looking for you on one of the sports TV channels. Now that football is over they cover stuff like X-Games (which I actually enjoy!)...I think Iditabike qualifies for coverage! Even in hiking a buddy (not exactly competition) makes it better and more vigorousm even though I hit my stride and maintain it for best results. Go Maggie!!!"}, {"response": 226, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (16:31)", "body": ""}, {"response": 227, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (16:45)", "body": "Sorry, Stace! I posted some information from ARRL for Terry in here instead of the other window I had opened in Radio conf. So, I got rid of it!"}, {"response": 228, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (13:53)", "body": "Whoo Hoo! I rowed 2000metres this morning in just under 12 mins - maybe I'll make that challenge after all. I also managed 2 mins jog on the treadmill without collapsing. I know it doesn't sound much but I haven't actually run in years!"}, {"response": 229, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (18:03)", "body": "Hey, I'm impressed. Perhaps the roadrunning Stacey won't be (but I know she will be), but the rest of the frost-in-the-hair group are very proud of you!"}, {"response": 230, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (10:30)", "body": "Congrats Maggie! When is the rowing challenge??? I, on the other hand, haven't run a step since Saturday morning... except for last night, running around cooking a special dinner before B got home! I'm planning on running at lunch today but I think it'll be too warm to run outside with the workout clothes I brought so I may be heading to the gym again. Hopefully I'll get some running in in Alaska but I'm really not terribly fond of cold so I may just huddle in my big parka and shiver for exercise!"}, {"response": 231, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (14:03)", "body": "the challenge runs from 1st march for a month. You have 10 goes at your best time. My husband managed around 8 mins for the 2K but his target is just over 6mins which is really tough. I haven't dared look at the target times for my age group yet. I figured if I ran (well jog) 2 mins out of my 10 mins then I can gradually increase it as the puff get better. I upped the speed to 6.5. kms per hour and that seemed OK. However, my heart rate went tight up to 160, although it came down quite quickly to 130 once I kept the speed down to 5 kms per hour. do you think that's OK? I'm aiming to be able to jog round the village with my youngest daughter by the Summer (it's a couple of Kms)."}, {"response": 232, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (14:40)", "body": "you're body shows great recovery ability!! The fact that it dropped so quickly means your heart muscle is getting more and more efficient! have you caculated an approximate maximum for yourself yet? typically it's figured by subtracting your age from the number 220. The result is close to your body's maximum heart rate although you should try and maintain somewhere between 60 and 80 percent of that while working out. Sounds like you're progressing famously!!"}, {"response": 233, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (15:20)", "body": "That makes my maximum 174. So I guess I shouldn't go much higher than the 160. thanks."}, {"response": 234, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (17:03)", "body": "Yes, 160 is probably really good for you but don't worry TOO much about that... B exceeds his all the time! (by a few points here and there, when he's working REALLY hard). I've exceeded mine on occassion... The pulse to watch is your resting rate, as you get more and more fit, your heart gets more and more efficient and takes fewer pumps for it to do the same amount of work... I bet your resting rate is much lower than it was a couple of months ago! No running for me at lunch... AFTER work I'm running with my marathon buddy!"}, {"response": 235, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (17:23)", "body": "Skipped off today - had a Hepatitus jab yesterday in each arm and I'm reacting. Will try tomorrow."}, {"response": 236, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (13:41)", "body": "Feeling lousy, got a head cold now on top of Hep jab achy arms."}, {"response": 237, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (15:33)", "body": "Not fair! Why the Hep shot? Are you travelling soon? All of the kids here get them, but not usually the adults."}, {"response": 238, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (13:38)", "body": "This is the last of the shots we started last year prior to the africa trip. It gives us hep protection now for 10 years. Last year we were like pin cushions - Yellow Fever, Typhoid, Hep x 2 kinds, Meningitis, Tetanus and I can't remember what else. We hope to go to Mali in October for 6 months. The cold's still hanging around and I feel sick and dizzy with the phlegm, so no gym this morning again."}, {"response": 239, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (18:23)", "body": "Keep it loose. Amazing what the human body can do to protect itself when necessary and given the chance. Sheesh! Pin cushion, indeed! You need Alexander's hot toddy and a lot of rest. Sleep it off and you will be back to exercising sooner...(Ignore the mess and daughters for the time being!)"}, {"response": 240, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (18:33)", "body": "Yes, I really am off to bed now!"}, {"response": 241, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (20:18)", "body": "greetings from Alaska!! Hope you're feeling better Maggie... No working out for me the last few days, just supporting Mr. B He's off on the trail as I type... seven hours into it... I don't have any updates, much to my own chagrin. The weather is MUCH warmer than we anticipated... 30s and sunny. The humidity makes the air seem a might bit chillier than it would be at 30F in Colorado but the sun is beautiful. LONGGGGG sunsets here, no Northern Lights to speak of yet... I did take a four mile walk today, on the Iditasport trail... marathon jitters should have me out running but I don't LIKE running in the snow."}, {"response": 242, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (21:10)", "body": "Good point about not running on the snow. You do not need to slip and break something at this point. I checked solar flux and stuff like that and it is building again. A big sunspot showed up the other day. If you can last a night or two more you should see something!"}, {"response": 243, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (21:11)", "body": "Oooh, you're in my time zone now!!!"}, {"response": 244, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (21:15)", "body": "Geez, this thing really exists: http://www.travelfacts.com/tfacts/htm/anc/anccal.htm#Top FEBRUARY 4 Iditasport Races. The 350-mile Iditasport races include: Iditabike, Iditashoe and Iditaski. Come join the fun. 907-345-4505"}, {"response": 245, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (06:50)", "body": "Boo hoo I've put on a couple of pounds - all this inactivity! Hope you get to see the Northern Lights - exciting."}, {"response": 246, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (11:30)", "body": "Your scales need adjusting, that's all... How could you have put on even an ounce with your two daughters home and running you ragged?!"}, {"response": 247, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (12:21)", "body": "Beats me but I have. It's just not fair - they've both lost weight!!!"}, {"response": 248, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (13:23)", "body": "Temporary water gain...isn't that what it always is?! Unfortuantely, it likes to take up residence and make itself at home on you...*sigh*"}, {"response": 249, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (14:05)", "body": "I've been working with hand weights lately to counteract the lack of activity that part usually gets in hiking and computerizing. Seems to be doing something because I can feel it."}, {"response": 250, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (16:47)", "body": "My mind boggles - explain!"}, {"response": 251, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (17:07)", "body": "Never used little hand weights shaped like dumb-bells? Neither have I. I use a one-pound tin of beans in each hand and to reps in every direction I can think of. back over my shoulders, underhand upward, out to the sides, forearm curls. Little forms of the body-builder's art."}, {"response": 252, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (17:35)", "body": "I can understand that - but how does that affect the bit that computer chairs affect???"}, {"response": 253, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (18:31)", "body": "Just the inactivity of the arms. Nothing whatsoever for the part on which I sit unless you consider that I do not consume the contents of the cans...*sigh*"}, {"response": 254, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (18:33)", "body": "I am a skinny Englishwoman-type which is lately just getting a healthy-looking amount of meat on the bones. I have never watched calories except to eat the things with the most in hopes that I would become somewhat more voluptuous... (Guess you did not want to hear that...)"}, {"response": 255, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (14:14)", "body": "That was me - until CFS struck. Changed my metabolism!"}, {"response": 256, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (15:45)", "body": "Ray's daughter is battling it and I wonder if I am, as well. I am not nearly as hyper as I used to be, but almost nothing gets done which is not inside of my monitor. You mean I'm gonna get voluptuous now??!! Btw, did you get much understanding from your family? R thinks both his beloved daughter and I are just gold-brinking and malingering. Ducking responsibilities, etc. etc. Yeah! sure...like I'd wish this on my worst enemy?!"}, {"response": 257, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (16:40)", "body": "The family were great, others weren't. Had your thyroid checked out? Might be worth it. Mind you it's a good excuse not to do housework *smile*."}, {"response": 258, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (17:17)", "body": "I know that it is an excuse for just about anything...but so was Carpal-Tunnel during which I dropped things because I had to do the work and He would not help. I am just hoping that it is just a long hangover from the flu I got at Christmas. I am overdue for a blood work-up. That next. (Just changed the beds, did three laundry loads and hung the sheets to dry on the line - like them better that way.)"}, {"response": 259, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (03:00)", "body": "I got mad - no laundry done over the weekend whilst I was in bed with the dratted cold, no washing up either and a husband and two adult females around to do it. I did a good job banging the dishes round yesterday. Today they were done before he went to the gym! (I can be effective sometimes!) Yes, it's prob the hangover from the flu. I'm still off from the gym, can't breathe properly and any effort exhausts me. After I did that 2000meters rowing last week and all!"}, {"response": 260, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (11:14)", "body": "Give me some ideas for a workout at the Q, I need to get back in to working out. I'll try and follow through!"}, {"response": 261, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (16:06)", "body": "Terry, If you would rather do almost anything but exercise, I'd suggest you hire yourself a trainer to get you on the right track. If that is out, get a good video and follow it. (I am posting this until the really dedicated exercisers get online again)"}, {"response": 262, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (16:12)", "body": "Maggie, it is time you sat down that group of dependent adults who are abusing the privilege and tell them the use of the kitchen will henceforth be limited to those cleaning up after themselves. Can you look stern enough to make it stick - at least, with your grown daughters (who have NO excuse!)I am angry for you!!!"}, {"response": 263, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (17:09)", "body": "I find the biggest problem at the gym is boredom!! So - on the exercise bike I get to look at the mens magazines (not naughty ones, Marcia!) they put out for all those beefy types - so what if I get funny looks, I don't care. On the treadmill I've decided I shall master it and it shall not take me where it wants to go. So I while away my twenty minutes reprogramming it. I get funny looks for that as well - what's the matter don't they think a middle aged mum's got brains? It's surprising how quickly the time passes when you looking at the second clock and planning two moves ahead. Weights I like and use as the carrot to keep me going. I just love anouncing to friends that I've taken up weightlifting! At my gym the personal trainer comes free (well, with the membership fee) and I get a reprogramme every 6-8 weeks. What do you want to do Terry? When I get back to the gym hopefully in the next day or two I'm going to take it quite easy at first. Maybe this will help as an idea: I usually do 5-10 minutes warm up on one of the bikes (I don't think it matters which) on a fairly low level (say three) manual programme; I then do stretches for a few minutes. Then it's on to cardiovascular work, I rotate the machines in this category so I don't get bored and my body doesn't get used to a set pattern. For example I might start with ten to fifteen minutes (or even 20 if I feel like it) on the treadmill, using either my own design programme or one of the machines programmes, I then row 1000 metres (although I'm trying to do 2000), at this point I would probably go and do weights, or if I'm not feeling up to it I'll do a 5-10 minute cool down on the bike, then final stretches and finish and shower. Usually takes me between 45mins to an hour. I find the cross trainer (elliptical trainer?) really tough, and don't do the stepper either, but those could be added in the cardiovascular group of machines. Are those the sort of ideas you were looking for?"}, {"response": 264, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (23:58)", "body": "Hey! Do I have that sort of reputation? I would think you were reading auto mechanics or house remodeling...*grin* I know a lady who downloaded novels off the net and read them as she cycled through the miles. She has legs like a soccer player but there is not an ounce of flab on them! Maggie sounds like she has a program I could live with and actually show up for. One thing about that, I hate to waste money, so I would show up!! Good for you not being intimidated! Huzzah!"}, {"response": 265, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (02:49)", "body": "The money angle is true, although I also think it's a good deal. I don't agree with a lot of things our local council does, but the running of the local sports centres at affordable prices is great. Did I tell you we get to swim for free too, and use the other 'huge' sports centre as well - all for the same fee (oh and we get discounts in local stores as well). I've really appreciated everyone's encouragement as I got stuck in to the program."}, {"response": 266, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (15:42)", "body": "Maggie, that is what we are here for. Encouragement and informational goodies traded, plus advice and opinions. It is free...and worth every penny *grin* You have a great \"deal\" going with that recreational center. I hope it gets lots of use by the young and bored as well as by the older and wiser..."}, {"response": 267, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (13:58)", "body": "Go Maggie!! Keep up the work... the boredom is real... change things up a little... buy yourself a new workout outfit... get different color shoelaces... bribe yourself with the promise of a hot soak in the bathtub... a massage... a slinky nightie... KEEP the intensity up... you can do it!!! I am working out of a slump as well. The promise of extreme discomfort (arising from completing a marathon I've not trained properly for) has done little to spur me on. But your story has... I know that boredom... and now I've made it my enemy... *leaving my workstation to go for a walk outside*"}, {"response": 268, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (14:27)", "body": "Stace, are you ok? You are scaring us in Screwed 19...Word association..."}, {"response": 269, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (14:44)", "body": "Mmm please answer that one! I'm still off the gym, can't shake this chest cold. Every effort and I'm off coughing again. I'm determined to get there on Monday!!!"}, {"response": 270, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (14:55)", "body": "Mine finally went away...but it was stubborn and hung around far longer than necessary. Stay away from smokers. I stayed home because of that...for about a month!"}, {"response": 271, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (16:37)", "body": "ummm... how did I scare you (ie... what did I associate??) Ummm... I'm fine... better than fine... enjoying the last few days of my job, cause I gotta a new one starting March 6th! Woo Woo! More money, more bennies..."}, {"response": 272, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (16:47)", "body": "Response 805 of 806: Maggie (sociolingo) * Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (14:21) * 1 lines suntan Response 806 of 806: Stacey Tinianov (stacey) * Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (16:03) * 1 lines melanoma Response 807 of 807: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (16:51) * 1 lines malignant Response 808 of 809: Stacey Tinianov (stacey) * Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (17:19) * 1 lines tumor Response 809 of 809: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (18:36) * 1 lines lump Response 810 of 811: Stacey Tinianov (stacey) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (12:10) * 1 lines breast Response 811 of 811: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (12:15) * 1 lines remove Response 812 of 812: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (12:16) * 1 lines Stace, are you ok? Response 813 of 814: Alexander (aschuth) * Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (17:41) * 3 lines pace [I had something cut out of my back a couple years ago, a mark that could have changed.] Response 814 of 814: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (18:33) * 3 lines (OMG...she mentioned she has breast cancer genes on both sides of her family...) somber Response 815 of 816: Maggie (sociolingo) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (15:48) * 1 lines concerned Response 816 of 816: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (19:34) * 1 lines worried Response 817 of 818: terry (sprin5) * Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (00:15) * 1 lines troubled Response 818 of 818: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:43) * 1 lines distressed"}, {"response": 273, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (16:48)", "body": "Delighted to know you are well. Even better, about your new job with more money and bennies. Whoopee!!! (Can you see why we were concerned?)"}, {"response": 274, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (17:02)", "body": "a very valid word association IMHO but thanks for thinking of me IRL as well! Very thrilled to report I am in fine health... REALLY damn good health if I can say that w/o jinxing myself... oddly enough I did fill out a survey for the breast cancer society last night... from doing all those fun runs methinks... BTW, WAY too windy to walk outside today. A friend and I tried it but were almost physically blown away... walked inside the building instead."}, {"response": 275, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (17:26)", "body": "I fill those surveys out, as well, and I am healthy and whole and happy to be so. You have a front going through with snow on one side and just plain strong wind on the other. Hang onto something out there. You are a tiny lady!!! I was just worried when your word associations rang a warning bell in my mind, is all...Happy to have it put to rest."}, {"response": 276, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:43)", "body": "Back to the gym today after three weeks off sick. Boy was it a struggle. Just treadmilled and biked a bit and then gave up and went home. Will try again on Wednesday."}, {"response": 277, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:59)", "body": "Now you know why they call it \"back to the grind\"! I have not been as religious as I should be about following my routines, either!"}, {"response": 278, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:08)", "body": "This tiredness and sinus problem is really bothering me. Can't shift it. Everytime I go and do something physical my head bangs and I feel really yuk."}, {"response": 279, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (13:54)", "body": "I know the feeling. It'll take a month or better to really get rid of it. I guess I still have the fringes of it going by the number of typos which are getting posted lately! Plenty of water, vitamin C (off the tree is best) and rest!!!"}, {"response": 280, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (14:25)", "body": "Ha! Ha! I ended up in bed again this afternoon, just flaked out. Hubby is still gong to the gym every morning and disgustingly healthful. Oh well, at least he can cook dinner!"}, {"response": 281, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (15:30)", "body": "They do make the most curious dinners - at least, my caretaker does. Tends to be all put in one pan with canned cream-of-somthing mixed in to the entire thing and served over rice. It is nourishing, but it does make me long for food I can recognize after a few days of that! Take care, Maggie. You cannot be replaced!"}, {"response": 282, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (16:09)", "body": "Actually it was stuffed chicken breasts (from the freezer) with loads of fresh veg. Very tasty and nice, even if I couldn't eat very much."}, {"response": 283, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (17:23)", "body": "Oooh, sounds very nice, indeed! Not grey at all! Fresh veggies?! I am impressed. Give my best to your chef...!"}, {"response": 284, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (15:26)", "body": "Managed a full work out today. Felt pretty smug, specially since I was up early."}, {"response": 285, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (16:14)", "body": "I have good news and bad news,\" a defense attorney told his client. \"First the bad news. The blood test came back, and your DNA is an exact match with that found at the crime scene.\" \"Oh, no!\" cried the client. \"What's the good news?\" \"Your cholesterol is down to 140.\""}, {"response": 286, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (16:16)", "body": "You're gonna be all buff and we will be shamed into treadmill torture. I'd much rather run arund the baseball field during batting practice! Better scenery~!"}, {"response": 287, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (19:55)", "body": "Mr. Smith was terribly overweight, so his doctor put him in a diet. \"I want you to eat regularly for 2 days, then skip a day, and repeat this procedure for 2 weeks. The next time I see you, you'll have lost at least 5 pounds.\" When Mr. Smith returned, he shocked the doctor by losing nearly 20 pounds. \"Why, that's amazing!\" the doctor said, \"Did you follow my instructions?\" Mr. Smith nodded. \"I'll tell you though, I thought I was going to drop dead that 3rd day.\" \"From hunger, you mean?\" \"No, from skipping.\""}, {"response": 288, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "oh Maggie... sounds like you had a rough time of it! My routine got all shook up with this new job... so far away from my favorite gym! I did go today during lunch though to another gym that is much closer to my new work... feel much better now!"}, {"response": 289, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (08:14)", "body": "Dr has put me on antihistamines to try and reduce inflammation. Seems to be working. Band of pain seems less today, but not quite gone yet. New routines are always difficult at first aren't they. Spect it'll settle down soon. I did manage 500m rowing last visit in just over 5 mins at level 6, so my strength is back. I wasn't too winded either. Difference was when T was pacing me on machines, the company really seems to help."}, {"response": 290, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (11:51)", "body": "Hiya Maggie! My routine has gotten even stranger... I'm walking an hour after work each day now! How are you doing with things??"}, {"response": 291, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (12:51)", "body": "It's been tough, but i'm fighting back. i amnaged a 45 min work out yesterday without collapsing in a heap when I got back, so i guess i'm doing OK. I'm going carefully though. Have you got somewhere nice to walk?"}, {"response": 292, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (14:51)", "body": "There is a park right behind my house... with a big lake and geese and ducks and trees and then there is a historical museum next to that with sheep and horses and peacocks and pigs and chickens. A beautiful place to walk actually! good job on the long workout!! I've been mighty tired lately so I'm going pretty light too... made me change my eating habits pretty severely!"}, {"response": 293, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:42)", "body": "We've been walking by the Thames recently at Marlow. It's really nice this time of year. We amble mainly rather than power walk. I'm too tired to do much else, and too much pain. Still losing weight. 11 pounds in 2 months which is about right i think. Not too fast."}, {"response": 294, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (15:10)", "body": "Wow Maggie! That's awesome! Perfect schedule to! Experts say you shouldn't lose more than 1 lb per week if you plan to keep it off! You are really making that lifestyle change... congratulations. I think I have to hit the gym today because the weather went from sunny and seventy (F) to sleeting! *grumble*"}, {"response": 295, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (15:20)", "body": "Heya, the Stacey! Good to see you - missed you. How's the new job, nice folks there? They better pay decent and treat you nice!"}, {"response": 296, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "Hey again Alexander! Always good to be missed. Thanks! The new job is great, my new coworkers are nice and bright. The pay is good and they treat me just right! four weeks of paid vacation is a good benefit too! How've YOU been? Another issue due soon?"}, {"response": 297, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (12:07)", "body": "Maggie... are you feeling alright??"}, {"response": 298, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (16:57)", "body": "Not really. The sinus problem's back and I've been very achy with CFS type pain. Didn't go again today. More luck tomorrow?"}, {"response": 299, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (18:14)", "body": "Nope! I spoke with her today and yesterday...she is really having a relapse of the bronchial flu she had 8 weeks ago. I sent her to bed with some brandy and her really nice husband, Tony...(I know these things because the sends me messages when she and I are messaging each other.)"}, {"response": 300, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 11, 2000 (12:22)", "body": "Maggie... are you feeling better??? Marcia... are you exercising???"}, {"response": 301, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 11, 2000 (12:25)", "body": "No...*expecting to be smited with a divine thunder-bolt* Except for running around the house which hardly qualifies...*sigh*"}, {"response": 302, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 11, 2000 (12:26)", "body": "How are you feeling these days? I KNOW you exercise..."}, {"response": 303, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Apr 18, 2000 (05:12)", "body": "Actually made it back to the gym today. Light work out on bikes and treadmill only. Will try and build up again slowly. Husband feeling good - did 10 minutes jogging for the first time. Arghhhh"}, {"response": 304, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 18, 2000 (12:35)", "body": "Yeah!! Maggie!! I've been taking that cycling class on Tuesdays and Thursdays but it kicked my A** last Thursday. Walking everyday and then biking and rollerblading in the interim. Actually my exertion has slowed lots... still keeping the heart rate under 140 and the temperature low. Lots of napping...surprised I haven't put on ten pounds already!"}, {"response": 305, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (02:21)", "body": "You need the naps! Now this morning I'm ready to go to the gym - and he's still sleeping!!!! Oh well! Maybe I'll persuade him to go swimming instead. Had wheezing attack out yesterday, so bad had to use inhaler, so I need to take exertion carefully."}, {"response": 306, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (16:37)", "body": "walk around the park again yesterday... and what a blustery day! Today is still windy, not as severe but colder too. Careful Maggie! Listen to your body!"}, {"response": 307, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (17:01)", "body": "Keep bundled up - you do not need bronchitis right now, Stacey! *Hugs* Fresh mountain air is great, though! Can't over do on that stuff!"}, {"response": 308, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (17:07)", "body": "yeah, keep well, Stacey. You definitely do not want what I've had. Only exercise today has been humping things around as we continue to sort out things."}, {"response": 309, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (21:36)", "body": "I'm really getting in to some serious swimming now, yesterday was the real first day of swim season. The water temp's up to about 74 now. I'm doing a lot of underwater laps."}, {"response": 310, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (03:54)", "body": "Is that in the sea or a bath? I'm impressed - I've never been able to swim much underwater, I get too panicky. What strokes are you using?"}, {"response": 311, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (09:06)", "body": "I'm a huge backstroker. I swim in my backyard pool, it's 35' long, so I can do laps. I do a lot of underwater laps as well. And I use fins, I hear they give you more of a workout. The water was up to 74 yesterday, I said that. No real sea to speak of around Austin, just the Hill country lakes."}, {"response": 312, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (13:38)", "body": "You inspired me to go today. Missed out on the gym this morning, so went swimming instead."}, {"response": 313, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (14:12)", "body": "Great Maggie, I'm going for a dip in a bit myself."}, {"response": 314, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (17:49)", "body": "anyone know where to get a two piece maternity suit?? I've seen some (UGLY) one pieces but no two piece ones."}, {"response": 315, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (15:26)", "body": "Mothercare are usually pretty good in the UK. Don't know if they mail order to US. Might be worth a search. My gym/swim card only gives us access 6.30am - 5pm monday to friday. So I always lose momentum over the weekend. The pool at my gym is very small for a public bath, probably about the same size as yours Terry. It is lovely and warm though which scores highly for me above the other public bath which is huge, but cold."}, {"response": 316, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (15:13)", "body": "Stace, thinking about it, your tummy is gonna itch anyway from stretching to accommodate the scion of the Tinianov clan, and sunburn would not be a good thing to chance. I, who have no stretch marks, but has sisters who have know you don't want to risk burning that tender stretched skin. I have seen adaptations of bikinis (gross - they cover just about nothing) and prim dressmaker-style suits. I was pregnant during the winter. Did not have to deal with it!"}, {"response": 317, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (17:30)", "body": "I have seen nice two pieces (that cover the bump Marcia, not like a bikini at all) but here one piece seems all the rage. I even braved going into mothercare for you Stacey (my kids disowned me!) and sorry, only one-piece."}, {"response": 318, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (19:41)", "body": "When your belly button becomes an outie and your figure looks like a reflection in a really bizarre mirror in the fun house, you might have problems fitting into anything Omar-the-tentmaker did not make! Are you still planning to be in Hawaii in October? I was asked if it was not uncomfortable, but with long legs and arms, it was not a problem and nothing hurt or itched. Guess I was lucky. But, I never had a swim suit...was pregnant from September through the middle of May - carefully planned that way."}, {"response": 319, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (06:58)", "body": "Did a good workout on Monday and a jog/walk round the park too. but then got pulled off to go ten pin bowling and whacked myself out for the next couple of days. Still aching. Managed half hour workout today now muscles are a little easier. Just bicycling,treadmill, light weights and stretches. Feel tired, but OK. May go swimming later."}, {"response": 320, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (08:00)", "body": "Same here, I'm going swimming later, when it heats up."}, {"response": 321, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (16:26)", "body": "Didn't get there the shopping took too long *sigh* Have a nice swim!!!"}, {"response": 322, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (19:37)", "body": "Saturday had a good, though difficult 25 mile ride. Sunday rested. Monday & Tuesday rode 6 miles each day. Weds ran 2 miles (not smart). today rest... tomorrow i'll probably lift."}, {"response": 323, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (19:41)", "body": "WoW!! Must be negative % fat on you...!"}, {"response": 324, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (22:36)", "body": "oh no... i'm carrying about 10 extra lbs of the 'jiggly' variety. By mid summer I should be down to 130 (or less) with a greatly reduced % body fat ;-). There was a time in my life when I was measured at 10.2 % but it was long ago and doubtful to be repeated."}, {"response": 325, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (23:27)", "body": "Is such low body fat desirable as we (not you) get older? Nuthin to fall back on if we catch the flu or have a prolonged recouperation? The is little on me to pinch inch-wise, but in the places meant to be pinched there is just enough. I think I'll leave well enough alone!"}, {"response": 326, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (05:17)", "body": "I'm stillstruggling with body image let alone body fat!. never could keep above 98lbs until the last ten years and CFS. But you've heard it all before ... I'm still in the process of changing fat for muscle. It's been a struggle, but I am determined to be fit for Africa (eta mid-October). Even on my worst days now I am doing miles better than I did last November when I started training, so I take heart. Hope to go swimming later today. Moving furniture around should also burn off some calories! Back onto high protein, low(ish) carbohydrate diet. It does seem to make a difference to me."}, {"response": 327, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (09:09)", "body": "I hope to go swimming later also, I'm trying to get my friends interested in a poolside barbecue."}, {"response": 328, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (13:38)", "body": "MMm sounds nice - can I come? (virtually of course!) House male took too long reassembling a wardrobe (don't ask!) so I missed out again. Will go for a walk around the village instead - it takes about 20 mins and has two nasty hills. We're off to the seaside on Sunday for three days, maybe I'll go paddling! (seriously I'll take my swimming costume and try and find a pool)"}, {"response": 329, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (16:38)", "body": "Of course you can come. Maybe I'll beam the webcam out at the pool!"}, {"response": 330, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (17:20)", "body": "Trying to imagine what a swimming costume looks like...long sleeves, pantaloons and dust bonnet?! Oooooo! Terry! Do that and you will make a new site for Drool (sitting here with nose pressed against the monitor again...)"}, {"response": 331, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (18:11)", "body": "*giggle* Sorry, dear, swimming costume is what WE call it!!! Never thought it might sound odd. I suppose i could have sed swim suit or cozzie. Actually i have two at the moment, one is strapless and black with silver, with a matching flimsy wrap-round, and the other more traditional and blue swirly. What on earth do YOU call it!!!!? (yes, i knew you were joking) What time do you want us Terry? Do I bring a bottle?"}, {"response": 332, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (18:18)", "body": "bathing suit or swim suit"}, {"response": 333, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (18:19)", "body": "Might want to know what sort of beast will be on the BBQ unless this is gonna be a all-veggie one, in which case the whiter the better, I'll bet."}, {"response": 334, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (18:27)", "body": "drool! I'm happy either way."}, {"response": 335, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2000 (07:07)", "body": "Feel good - did go for that walk round the village and i didn't puff once either!!! Should try and make it a daily event. I still have the ambition to jog it when my daughter comes home ... (she's the runner of the family)"}, {"response": 336, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2000 (14:08)", "body": "No dogs to nip at your heels, or worse? That is what is so off-putting here!"}, {"response": 337, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2000 (18:21)", "body": "Very few stray dogs around here. Haven't seen any for ages, thank goodness. I'm scared of dogs I don't know!"}, {"response": 338, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, May  8, 2000 (14:14)", "body": "hey spring-ers! did 22.5 miles on the bike before work in a record breaking 1:43. Sunday rode 21 miles. the plan is to ride 20-25 again weds and fri then shoot for 40 on sat or sun. Gotta get the mileage up there. only 5 weeks until my first century ( 100+ miles in 1 day). my butt, she is sore..."}, {"response": 339, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May  8, 2000 (15:38)", "body": "Wow!!! I AM impressed! Get your butt a gel seat - or does that not help in these extremely long rides?"}, {"response": 340, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May  8, 2000 (17:45)", "body": "What does that work out to in avg mph? 13 mph? I think you need to get this up to about 20 mph don't you (this is an uneducated opinion, I don't know whta kind of course you're on)."}, {"response": 341, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May  9, 2000 (11:50)", "body": "gena... have a blast with the century... my first was out of Austin and ended up at a brewery! Talk about incentive!"}, {"response": 342, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, May  9, 2000 (18:42)", "body": "i'm not worrying to much about speed. right now it's endurance and muscle memory i'm trying to get back. but yes, you're right... the avg speed right now is about 13 mph. the rides (both the June ride and the Sept AIDSRide) are not races. You get no prize for finishing first... you do, however, get a motorcysle escort if you are last ;-) i think as i get more in shape the speed will come up."}, {"response": 343, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (05:10)", "body": "Back to pounding round the village today I think and into the gym on monday. The scales MUST be lying!"}, {"response": 344, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (09:34)", "body": "Need some keep going vibes please! The going was tough at the gym yesterday, only managed half an hour. Today's jaunt was aborted due to a flat tyre. Give me energy!!!"}, {"response": 345, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (13:50)", "body": "ENERGY Sorry Maggie I've been scarce... my routine is pretty messed up too. Perhaps I need to log in more frequently and some of your good energy too!"}, {"response": 346, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (13:52)", "body": "Stace! Been worried about you!"}, {"response": 347, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (19:44)", "body": "Wow, Stacey, glad you're checking in! I've been thinking about you too."}, {"response": 348, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, May 31, 2000 (03:06)", "body": "Hi Stace, been sending nice thoughts and prayers your way!!! Gotta get up and dressed now and try again at gym. I hate it when it gets busy (like it was bank holiday monday). At least the view over the river is nice."}, {"response": 349, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jun  1, 2000 (10:37)", "body": "Well, managed an hour's workout yesterday, felt really good on the treadmill and did 25 mins, plus elliptical trainer and full weights programme. Downside is I crashed badly in the evening, really zombied out and weepy. Took a very gentle half hour this morning just bike and treadmill, legs very heavy, still feel wiped out. That's the problem, I never know I've over done it until I have!!! I felt so good yesterday morning, but then wham!"}, {"response": 350, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jun  2, 2000 (10:18)", "body": "Oh Maggie... I've been there (zombied out and weepy)... in fact, been there very recently. I walked yesterday."}, {"response": 351, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jun  2, 2000 (15:55)", "body": "Stace, look at my poem in poetry 2. Still very achy. But did a ramble up and down hill with daughter and boyfriend last night which was very pleasant but my legs felt like jelly afterwards. Didn't go to the gym today, deided to err on the cautious. HUG"}, {"response": 352, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (03:32)", "body": "End of another week. Exercize wise it's been a good one. Got to the gym three times and did full workouts twice. Third time pulled out because house male looked grey and tired on the weights and I got scared and pulled him off (he will NOT give in ... what do I do???). No swimming, too many school parties using the pool. Have gone for distance rather than variety this week. Managed 10K biking and felt good afterwards, and can cope with elliptical trainer again although I'm only doing 5 minutes before my knees go. Not feeling anywhere near as achey this week. This is sounding more and more like maggie's diary - come and join me someone please!!!"}, {"response": 353, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (08:27)", "body": "What's an elliptical trainer?"}, {"response": 354, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (17:10)", "body": "Well, that's what Stacey called it. My gym calls it a cross trainer. You stand at it and it has sort of flat things where your feet go which move in an elliptical manner (circular) smoothly either forward or backwards, and it has poles which you move forward and back at the same time. Sort of whole body work out. I find it really tough on my knees, the muscle just above the knee really aches. It may be because i am quite short."}, {"response": 355, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (12:04)", "body": "Back in the gym today, taking it easy because I had a fall on Saturday. Just bike and treadmill and stretches."}, {"response": 356, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (12:39)", "body": "a fall?? Are you okay? I rode my bike into work this morning. Feeling better! Brandon and I went garage sale-ing Saturday on bicycles!"}, {"response": 357, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (13:25)", "body": "Good news! Yeah, I'm OK just hurt where I sit on."}, {"response": 358, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (20:58)", "body": "Breathing out for Stacey!! Yes!!! I guess if we tell Maggie to stand in the corner it would be a relief?! Ever try sitting on an ice bag??!"}, {"response": 359, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (06:27)", "body": "Ha Ha funny not!"}, {"response": 360, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (10:53)", "body": "*ouch* Maggie! Yep, feeling better. I wrote my final entry in the Pregnancy Today diary. Smiling more often and thinking about the future. May skate today but the Pine Junction wildfire is making the air heavy and ashy."}, {"response": 361, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (12:50)", "body": "*smile* *HUG* Stacey Took the option for a lie in this morning - will do better tomorrow. Bruising is easing up a bit now."}, {"response": 362, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (13:16)", "body": "Good news on the bun front....."}, {"response": 363, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (02:59)", "body": "Now, if I can get the house male to stop snoring and move we'll go to the gym. He looks so peaceful I hesitate to wake him!!!"}, {"response": 364, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (07:45)", "body": "50 miles on Sunday... and uh-huh! my butt was so sore! gotta get a new saddle. hit the gym Monday morning for some lifting. rested on Tuesday. will do 20 tonight after work (it's raining this morning), lift Wednesday, ride Thursday (20 again, REST Friday then on Saturday I go 60. 50 was really hard. i got fatigued, then on a hill I twanged my groin muscle (that'll make you scream) so the last 10 miles of the 50 was excruciating. one of my riding partners actually grabbed the back of my jersey and towed me and my bike up the last hill after i couldn't get my leg to work right. am fine now... an icebag on the offending muscle (ye-ouch) and a few anti-inflammatories and all is well."}, {"response": 365, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (09:00)", "body": "Yep, maybe you need one of those gel seats. Saturday's going to be a real test for you, what's the route like that you'll be riding for those 60 miles? Are you drinking a lot of liquids?"}, {"response": 366, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (13:47)", "body": "did ya wake him Maggie?? Sounds like a fun time you've got planned gena, enjoy the riding! Paul... did you get a bike?? I rode in to work again today. Great way to start the day. The wildfires around here are still going but the wind has shifted enough that there are no more ashes falling on our heads here in Littleton. Woke to a camping smell though... just like a campfire. Very sad."}, {"response": 367, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (17:44)", "body": "That sounds really horrible, Stacey. I had not heard .. No, I let him sleep. he's been working hard moving things around and in the garden, and I've pulled him off the gym twice in recent week because he looked so grey (he has a long standing heart problem). As usual, it's try again tomorrow .... Go for it Gena! i can't imagine 50. I've managed up to 15K so far on staionary bike. It's too hilly here to do much outdoor riding. (Yeah, I know I'm a chicken!)"}, {"response": 368, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (20:18)", "body": "Wondered about you and that fire... This for Terry: The AquaBike Now you have an excuse to put in a swimming pool! The AquaBike is an exercise bike that you submerge in a swimming pool. It has non-skid feet so it will not damage your pool floor. The bike is thoughtfully constructed out of waterproof materials so it is guaranteed not to rust. Bikes like these are used at fancy spas all over the world. You will just have to use your watch for timing since it's hard to put electronics on something that is submerged in water. The bike works in two to five feet of water."}, {"response": 369, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (13:46)", "body": "What's the url for this?"}, {"response": 370, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (15:35)", "body": "oops, sorry. Here it is: Truck delivery is required. The AquaBike retails as item number 4007 for $795 from Frontgate. They can be reached at (800) 626-6488 or on the web at http://www.frontgate.com ."}, {"response": 371, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (01:34)", "body": "Cool bike, too bad you can't actually ride it places underwater. I checked out the url. $8 bills is kind of pricey, you could rust out a few regular stationary bikes for the same price. But not a bad idea. There's a 14 foot pool/spa that uses \"waves\" to swim against if you're cramped for space."}, {"response": 372, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (01:51)", "body": "I was thinking the same thing....an idea posting mostly, I thought you could use the idea somehow."}, {"response": 373, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (09:24)", "body": "Bad morning at the gym again, managed 1000m rowing but not much else. Groin injury really aching as the bruising comes out. Decided enough was enough."}, {"response": 374, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (12:49)", "body": "Ah feel yer pain, Maggie."}, {"response": 375, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (14:28)", "body": "Somehow that does not feel reassuring in that particular accent...*smirk*"}, {"response": 376, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (14:54)", "body": "thankya verrrrrry much (elvis style???)"}, {"response": 377, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (14:54)", "body": "Somehow that does not feel reassuring in that particular accent...*smirk*"}, {"response": 378, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (14:55)", "body": "double post courtesy of Yapp......"}, {"response": 379, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (14:56)", "body": "interrrresting!"}, {"response": 380, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (15:37)", "body": "Must be a busy day on Spring. It usually does not happen unless there are lots of posts being processed. which makes me wonder why, if they are working on overload, they are increasing the load by duplicating some of them."}, {"response": 381, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (11:16)", "body": "tried whitewater rafting yesterday! what a rush, definitely qualifies as a back/shoulder workout!"}, {"response": 382, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (12:57)", "body": "What River Stace? How far did you go? Any overturns?"}, {"response": 383, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (13:28)", "body": "Wow! always wanted to try that! Was it scarey???"}, {"response": 384, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (13:32)", "body": "I went white water rafting on a portion of the American River in the Sierras of California. Not only was it fun, it really bonded our group as friends, I remember David Katz, Karen Katz, Jay Baldwin and his friend Kathleen were my expert group of rafters (esp Jay and Kathl, they started on of the rafting organizations). It was one of the greatest experiences of my life."}, {"response": 385, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (15:18)", "body": "Went down the Arkansas River through the Royal Gorge! Check out the trip here All class III and IV with a couple IV+. VERY FUN! Wasn't scary once we were going... I was good and nervous beforehand though! No one swam! YEAH!"}, {"response": 386, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (16:55)", "body": "I am SO jealous!!!! Not a chance in Mali I think, the river Niger is too large, slow and lazy. I'm going to have a real challenge trying to keep my fitness up. I need to start planning that now I think. Anything equipment I take will need to be lightweight. I wondered about a really good skipping rope. any ideas?"}, {"response": 387, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (06:09)", "body": "Back in the gym early this morning, but only because SO was lecturing. So only a short workout, but at least we went. Anyone come up with ideas for a program to diffuse computer stress??? I need some things to do in a confined space that will get my circulation back going again!! Better posture might help, so might getting out of the house more (....don't mind me, I'm goofy after an early morning and not much sleep)"}, {"response": 388, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (12:49)", "body": "Maggie, if I were to give you any advice here, I'd have to be sure to take it too! Lots of computer stress for me so I've taken to riding my bike to work 3x a week. Helping a little but my posture has really been slouchy lately. Which of course, leads to a general state of \"blahness\" Jump rope... great idea! I'd get a synthetic one, maybe nylon for durability and lightweight. Calasthenics are a good way to go when you're stuck out of your element, or quick jogs in safe areas. When do you leave??"}, {"response": 389, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (13:37)", "body": "I ended up with lots of upper back pain because I slouch too much. After suffereing for 6 years, I figured out that if I hold my arms up over my head and stretch upwards for a minute or so a day, sometimes holding my hands together, it goes away completely. :)"}, {"response": 390, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (13:40)", "body": "Thanks Ann, I'll give it a try! I'm fed up of aching!"}, {"response": 391, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (13:55)", "body": "Has anyone tried Pilates? I've got a video, which I could take with me to use as the group house has a recorder (takes US/UK videos). Is Callisthenics similar to Pilates? The exercises on the video seem very similar to the ones we used when I was ballet dancing (many years ago now). Stacey, do you know if there is much correlation between price and useablity of ropes? I've seen them priced up to \ufffd18. It seems to me that the really light ones are very frustrating to use. The streets around the 'Center' are really physically too bad to jog in, if you can avoid the raw sewage streams and stuff. We did brisk walking last time and the Center is four stories so there's loads of stairs to run up and down too. At least this time I can manage the stairs - when we went last year I was still pulling myself up hand over hand using the hand rail. So I've actually come a long way since November when I started at the gym and I'm obviously a lot stronger now. I just dread losing it all and going backwards again. I'm back in the gym at least 3 times a week now. I seem to be over the yukky bugs that really pulled me down, but am still aching from CFS. I keep putting off my next re-programme which is long overdue now as I'm still not managing my full progamme regularly yet. I leave mid-October for 6 months this trip."}, {"response": 392, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (07:30)", "body": "hi gang! well the Ptown ride went well. i did 60 of the 128 miles then woked the SAG stops with some NY friends. i felt pretty good. this week i'll drop back to 50 on saturday then pop 65-70 next weekend. got to try out a few seats too. got home and went to http://www.koobi.com and ordered the KOOBI SI. Lovely seat... and it doesn't press on 'grrlie parts'. it arrived with the UPS man last night."}, {"response": 393, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (09:39)", "body": "Is it a \"gel\" type seat?"}, {"response": 394, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (04:54)", "body": "Managed a full workout again yesterday, including forwards and backwards on the elliptical cross trainer and a few minutes jogging. Ache very badly today though and still not totally over the fall I had, the coccyx region is still sore and exacerbated by sitting at the computer! I can manage 3K in 5 mins on the bike now, at level 4, so am improving all the time."}, {"response": 395, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (08:50)", "body": "Went swimming yesterday and got my portable basketball backboard up by the pool, so I did a shootaround."}, {"response": 396, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (11:44)", "body": "hi. sorry for the absence. lots of changes around my house. the KOOBI seat is not a 'gel' type, it's a 'split' type. am loving it! after my long rides my butt is the one place i'm not sore anymore ;-) i got a new job... resigned from Siemens and will start with Biogen tomorrow. they 'showed me the money'..."}, {"response": 397, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (19:40)", "body": "So went in to the interview and said \"Show me da money!\". And they did. So that sounds like a biotech company right? Oh yeah, congratulations!"}, {"response": 398, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 28, 2000 (16:24)", "body": "hi gang! Maggie... how ya doing with the working out?? I've been in a funk... in and out I suppose. Went running yesterday for the first time in ages (since the 20K)... I may make a trip to the 24 hour gym late tonight for some weight work. Surprisingly enough, my weight hasn't fluctuated. If you all remember, I was supposed to be putting on some body fat as recommended by an OB... I FEEL fat but the extra doesn't show."}, {"response": 399, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jul 28, 2000 (21:40)", "body": "Great you're back! I've been doing a lot of construction work, and getting out in the heat a lot. No structured workouts though. The work is getting me more in the mood to workout."}, {"response": 400, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Aug 18, 2000 (02:25)", "body": "Back from holiday. I'm up and dressed and we'll be off to the gym in a minute. I'm going to take it real easy there today as I haven't done much for a few weeks."}, {"response": 401, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Sep  8, 2000 (04:56)", "body": "Well, we're getting into the wind down exercise wise, with only a month to go to lift off...I was really pleased with myself recently when my rowing was up to speed again, and I completed 1000 metres in justover 5 mins with the setting on high resistance. My shoulders ache a bit today, but I'm pleased with myself... Thinking about exercise in Mali: Stacey, I bought that skipping rope.....I have gone for a really good leather one, and it came with an exercise programme. We also got a resistance trainer - a sort of loop thing you put inder your foot. I think with running up and down stairs and the skipping and resistance we should be able to keep muscle tone up. I'm definitely fitter than I was when we went last year, so I hope we can keep it up. I just hope I don't get dysentry again!!!!"}, {"response": 402, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Sep 26, 2000 (05:51)", "body": "Hey, Rejoice with me ....I did a personal best time today rowing two kilometres in eleven minutes 45 seconds at resistance 8 (10 is highest). During the Steve Redgrave (our olympic gold medallist, and a memebr of the gym where I train) rowing challenge earlier this year that would have been a good time for my age group. I was really pleased, my previous best time for 2K was 12 minutes 35 ....so that is a substantial increase ...."}, {"response": 403, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Sep 27, 2000 (14:43)", "body": "Way to go, Maggie! Major breakthrough."}, {"response": 404, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Sep 28, 2000 (03:36)", "body": "Yeah, great feeling ....just how I wanted to leave the gym ....on a high note. Signing off from it tomorrow ....until March. Challenge now is to keep up the muscle tone in Africa ...we leave on 19th Oct. Got the skipping rope and rubber stretchy things for resistance ...and of course there's stairs to do ....heard we have an apartment on the third floor ...that should keep us pumping up and down stairs!!! Look in Travel and Cultures for updates ..."}, {"response": 405, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Fri, Nov 17, 2000 (12:53)", "body": "hi y'all! well, 4 months at the new job. it's good! really nice folks. Biogen is a bio-tech, specifically they make AVONEX, a drug for MS. the commute's a bit of a drag simply because i didn't have to do it for so long. but all in all, no complaints. no time for workouts... BUT the AIDSRIDE did go well..."}, {"response": 406, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  5, 2001 (16:39)", "body": "Have to admit - have not worked out AT ALL in Mali - except for climbing 6 flights of ten stairs to our appartment several times a day. It's too hot to do mcu exercise - hit 118 on Saturday, only 105 today! I'm melting!!!"}, {"response": 407, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Mar  6, 2001 (09:44)", "body": "You are going to melt! 118! That even puts our Texas summer to shame. And you say only 105, melted Maggie."}, {"response": 408, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Mar 30, 2001 (09:51)", "body": "OK, I'm back in cool UK!! Must get signed back up to the gym and get going on getting rid of the flab i've collected in Africa ..... actually I lost a little weight but not as much as I'd hoped after malaria and other unmentionable things... Did go swimming last sunday when friends held a goodbye pool party for us at a hotel."}, {"response": 409, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Mar 30, 2001 (12:09)", "body": "Swimming! That's not fair, Maggie. I still am waiting for the water to warm up in the pools around here. It's still 50 degrees. What's the water temp in the pool where you swim?"}, {"response": 410, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Mar 30, 2001 (15:02)", "body": "The hotel pool didn't have a guage it felt like a warm bath though!!! Here (UK) the inside pool's are kept much warmer than when I was a kid. We have a 'water world' fun park not too far away and I plan a visit in the near future. They try to make a tropical atmosphere and keep it warm. Very few outside pools in the UK - we'd freeze!!!"}, {"response": 411, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar 31, 2001 (14:01)", "body": "I haven't checked the pool temp today out in Cedar Creek, it was 51 at Quail Creek yesterday but we may be in for a stretch of warm weather. Can't wait till swim season starts here because that's when I really get some good workouts in the pool."}, {"response": 412, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Apr  8, 2001 (15:19)", "body": "Managed a good swim in a nice 'tropical' pool whilst on a mini-break to Devon. Looking forward to going back there again in a couple of weeks. Still haven't sorted the gym out yet ... boy am I going to be stiff once I get started again!"}, {"response": 413, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr  9, 2001 (08:46)", "body": "I've been swimming 3 days now, the water's up to 71 degrees and climbing. Looks like swim season is here to stay."}, {"response": 414, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Apr 10, 2001 (04:47)", "body": "That's nice for you. Any pool parties planned???"}, {"response": 415, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 10, 2001 (09:37)", "body": "Yep, a big pool party is planned for next month. Out of towners welcome! (There are two very nice guest bedrooms in Cedar Creek). I'll let you know when I set the date."}, {"response": 416, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Apr 11, 2001 (18:04)", "body": "booking my ticket! *grin*"}, {"response": 417, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, May 18, 2001 (07:25)", "body": "Boy do I miss stacey in here!!! Where's my workout partner?????? Getting back into it ...Been to the Gym three times this week and did my re-programme on Monday. I've put on 9lbs whilst in Africa ... BUMMER!!!! Now doing cardio-vascular (bikes and stuff) Mon and Weds, and resistance (weights) Tues and Fri. We go swimming on Thurs. Got a fitness test next week to give a base-line ot measure from."}, {"response": 418, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 18, 2001 (08:02)", "body": "I got a bike yesterday! My friend Eric won it in a contest and he already has a stable full of bikes so he sold it to me dirt cheap. It's a Trek dirt bike, red with silver speckles, it rides nice!"}, {"response": 419, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, May 19, 2001 (03:50)", "body": "That's so cool, Terry! I played squash last night for the first time in a couple of weeks - great workout!"}, {"response": 420, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, May 19, 2001 (05:06)", "body": "Never tried either ...have I lived yet? Last time I played badminton I ached for a week .... Today my workout is furniture removing and cleaning .. daughter 2 is moving out from home"}, {"response": 421, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, May 19, 2001 (10:19)", "body": "I don't have any aches from last night, luckily. We had ten minutes before the court was free so I took advantage to warm up properly, which is something I don't usually have time for. Didn't make a huge amount of difference last night because I was exhausted (why do I always book a court for Friday night?!) but I feel better for it today. Gotta get back into my abs routine. I injured my back a couple of weeks ago whilst I was exercising and haven't got back into it properly yet."}, {"response": 422, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 19, 2001 (13:38)", "body": "Just went to Walmart and picked up some patio furniture and about 20 more plants for around the pool, it's going to get very tropical out there. Just went for a little swim. So that's my workout so far, carrying patio chairs and tables and swimming. I'm hungery, time for lunch!"}, {"response": 423, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (05:52)", "body": "I think lack of warm up and cool down was the prob when I last played badminton .. that and using muscles I don't using use. Talking of unused muscles ... got a new weights machine to work on pulling the muscles round my shoulder ... I'm hopeless at names of these ..I'm still aching a bit from that on Friday. I've switched from a machine to dumb bells for one exercise and seem to be coping much better with that. Silly really that I was scared of using the hand weights rather than the machine ... I think I thought I couldn't do it wrong on the machine. Trying to do all round body exercises now. If I do the whole routine my personal trainer set it takes an hour with warm up and cool down."}, {"response": 424, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (05:56)", "body": "That's one of the problems I have with workouts - the amount of time it takes. I have a short attention span when it comes to lifting things, or doing any kind of repetitive exercise. I much prefer something like squash because at least there's a point! Doing that together with a short abs session (like, 5 minutes) and a set of press-ups (another 2 or 3 minutes) every night keeps me in reasonable shape. I don't need to be an Adonis :-)"}, {"response": 425, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (06:04)", "body": "We usually do 1/2 hour to 45 mins. I was amazed when I went swimming on thrus how much quicker I was. Home within the hour. I think I prob need this more than you do .............. What abs are you doing??? I'm using one of those roller bar thingies ... it beats sit ups for me ... and then some floor exercises. Have you ever tried one of those electrical impulse machines?"}, {"response": 426, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (12:28)", "body": "I'm just doing regular sit-ups. One set of 40 (can't be bothered with more), hands behind head, knees bent. I hate those roller bar things - they make my back and neck ache. I'm probably just not using them right, but I've never managed to get comfortable with them. I must start the press-ups again. They are actually a good anaerobic cardio workout, too (for about two minutes ;-) I'm supposed to be doing the Battersea Park run soon. I haven't run for ages...it's 3.5 miles. Not sure how I'll get on!!! I might do the Nike 10k later in the summer, but I'm not sure. That would mean training for it ;-) I don't have enough time as it is... I could always run to work I suppose."}, {"response": 427, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (17:44)", "body": "If the roller bar thingy makes your neck ache you aren't doing it properly ..position seems v impt with it. I'm comfortable with it ... can't sit up on my own from lying anyway after old back injury when I was a kid. When's the Battersea Park run? Hannah did that a few years ago. We walked round the village this evening .. I decided to start jogging ...bad move ...Nothing is on the level here ... tired myself out ... one day ....anyway the walk was OK. Plan to try and do that most evenings unless its raining ...I think its a couple of miles ... takes about 25 mins at a briskish pace. Never do press-ups .. seems ot be a male sort of thing ..(but then was weights! and I enjoy those)."}, {"response": 428, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (23:31)", "body": "I'm tired from working in the shop all day, swimming, and entertaining friends, and showing the cottage to prospective renters."}, {"response": 429, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, May 21, 2001 (04:45)", "body": "Have a nice coool drink ....and RELAX ... and think of those of us just srating the day .... I really must get some writing done today ........"}, {"response": 430, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, May 22, 2001 (05:15)", "body": "Back in the gym this morning ... hard going ... just biked, rowed and abs ...now I need to shower and get going writing ... got out on the bike yet Terry?"}, {"response": 431, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 22, 2001 (12:45)", "body": "Not yet, plan to soon. Oh, I did ride it around the block."}, {"response": 432, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, May 22, 2001 (15:25)", "body": "Damn it, I'm still slacking on the exercise front. Did plenty of singing tonight, though, which is good for the abs..."}, {"response": 433, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, May 22, 2001 (15:25)", "body": "Oh, and I screamed very loudly when I burned myself, which is also good for the abs ;-)"}, {"response": 434, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, May 22, 2001 (18:50)", "body": "Beat you!!! I did them properly at the gym this morning ..bet I ache in the middle tomorrow! Onto weights again tomorrow I think ...we're out of sync this week cos we didn't go on Monday cos house male was feeling weak. Fitness test on Friday!"}, {"response": 435, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, May 23, 2001 (07:12)", "body": "Did an hours weights today .. full all body programme ... so feel good. No aches from abs so thats good too. Back to writing .."}, {"response": 436, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (05:28)", "body": "Half hour swimming this morning ... proper stuff ...lengths etc. House male has got a bad back ..trying to figure out which of the weights did it ....and no it wasn't me ..."}, {"response": 437, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (06:47)", "body": "Sounds good. I played squash last night, but I have managed to catch the world's worst cold. It's been travelling down the desk all week but, true to form, I am suffering from it 10 times worse than anyone else has. ARGGHH. Just in time for the Foxy French Girl's arrival in England. Where did I put that nurse's uniform....(oops! Wrong conference...:-)"}, {"response": 438, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (07:08)", "body": "I missed my Tuesday evening golf game this week, it's becoming a ritual. I'm hping to do some electrical work this evening on the new construction project, the conference center with the 8 guest rooms, I want to run the wiring and get a registered electrician to come in and to the finish work and main panel."}, {"response": 439, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (07:32)", "body": "Oh well, at least you'll get some s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g Terry ... Hugs for the cold Mike ....nurses turn you on eh???? Make the most of the 'nursing' Mike! (*grin*)"}, {"response": 440, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (15:37)", "body": "Golf is extremely popular where I work. Sadly, I think I would be absolutely appalling at it :-)"}, {"response": 441, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (16:51)", "body": "Have you tried it, Mike?"}, {"response": 442, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (18:42)", "body": "Never with proper instruction, no. I get frustrated quite easily, and golf clubs are expensive... :-)"}, {"response": 443, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (19:41)", "body": "Well, I got the cheapest set they had at Golfsmith ( http://www.golfsmith.com ) and they work pretty well, I'm about 6-2 so I had to make sure they were long enough, I don't care much about the score, I just like to get out and walk around a scenic course and have the thrill of occasional good shot."}, {"response": 444, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (07:40)", "body": "Well, maybe I will learn eventually. I'm playing squash a lot, which is also a very corporate sport :-) Good for the heart, though, so I'm going to carry on. Golf clubs are also very, very expensive to join in this country."}, {"response": 445, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (08:42)", "body": "It costs about $8 to play one of the local courses and I prefer to carry my own clubs rather than rent a golf cart or have one of those golf bag caddies on wheels. It's pure enjoyment, that's why the score doesn't matter to me much, I just like walking around in a beautiful setting chasing after a little white ball. My biggest thrill recently was a 250 plus yard drive on the 9th hole of the Hancock Golf course. It went all the way to the water just beside the green."}, {"response": 446, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (09:46)", "body": "Sounds great! I imagine there's a few golf courses in the wiiiide open spaces of Texas :-)"}, {"response": 447, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (10:14)", "body": "Quite a few, and many are very reasonable. We have the State Park course out in Bastrop which is picturesque and easy. There's also Colo Vista, which is one of the top courses in Texas, but it's a private club. My sister has been playing around with the idea of doing a golf travel website called golftravel.net and she has been booking folks with golf courses that have accomodations. There are a number of good public and private courses in Austin."}, {"response": 448, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, May 31, 2001 (17:25)", "body": "I watched some golf on TV over the weekend...fantastic spectator sport (as long as you're at home in the chair). There's few things I like more than falling asleep with golf on. Especially as the commentators in the UK have very soothing voices :-)"}, {"response": 449, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun  1, 2001 (06:59)", "body": "Golf on tv is very restful and relaxing, especially the Masters where there seems to be a higher level of reverance. The announcers at the Masters aren't even allowed to talk about money."}, {"response": 450, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jun 14, 2001 (12:17)", "body": "Sort of back in the gym after a sprained ankle and knock on the head ..didn't last long today though ...."}, {"response": 451, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 15, 2001 (10:10)", "body": "Ooooh, hope you're recovering well, you sound like your in the condition of a lof the players in the NBA Finals right now, banged up!"}, {"response": 452, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jun 18, 2001 (18:04)", "body": "I'm back in the swing of things, guys and gals! I have a chart up on my door reminding me to exercise and allowing me to see my progress. So far my mini program is: press-ups - 50 first set, 25 second set sit-ups - 40 first set, 20 second set dumbell curls - 12 first set, 14 second set (8.5kg - about 20lbs i think?) doesn't take me too long (which is very important) and concentrates on the upper body which needs the most work :-) also, the press-ups are a reasonable cardio-vascular work out!"}, {"response": 453, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 18, 2001 (20:29)", "body": "I went swimming today, I do every day after work."}, {"response": 454, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jun 21, 2001 (19:06)", "body": "sticking with my programme...wish me luck! swimming just makes me eat, which is pointless because I don't need to put on weight anymore (which is a bizarre thing for me since I've always been really thin - it's quite nice now to have filled out a bit)."}, {"response": 455, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jun 28, 2001 (17:54)", "body": "workout programme is going well...definitely seeing some improvement already. won't be many weeks / months before I have the Body Beautiful!!! playing squash tomorrow night, too."}, {"response": 456, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 28, 2001 (19:40)", "body": "Went for a swim just now."}, {"response": 457, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 30, 2001 (11:06)", "body": "Been back in the gym again ...ankle healing but slowly (doc says it may take months for the torn ligaments to heal properly) .. managed three gym visits and one swilm last week. Keeping to cycling for cardio vascular and weights for toning. Keep it up Mike and Terry!!!"}, {"response": 458, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (08:50)", "body": "I went swimming and played pool basketball a lot yesterday. Three couples from \"Nia\" dance came over who live or have ties to the Bastrop area. We had a huge discussion at the dinner table about culture and cultures, but I'll save that for another topic."}, {"response": 459, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (15:38)", "body": "What's Nia dance Terry? Looking forward to hearing about your discussion on cultures ...."}, {"response": 460, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (22:23)", "body": "HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MAGGIE"}, {"response": 461, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (22:23)", "body": "It is still your birthday here - arrrrrgh!"}, {"response": 462, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jul  2, 2001 (01:28)", "body": "Grin....thanks for the wishes"}, {"response": 463, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul  2, 2001 (09:47)", "body": "Happy birthday Maggie. I think there's something about that in the cultures conference, I forget which topic number. It's a dance/aerobics class they have in Austin, I've been to it about half a dozen times."}, {"response": 464, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jul  2, 2001 (13:46)", "body": "Thanks Terry. The dance sounds fun ... I'll have a look ...BTW I made a stab at answering your questions there. They started belly-dancing keep fit at our sports centre ..well .. I thought about it ..."}, {"response": 465, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jul  6, 2001 (05:40)", "body": "Went swimming yesterday ..ankle holding up well ..OK on breast stroke, but doesn't like the waggling on crawl! Aching today though so didn't go to gym."}, {"response": 466, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (08:58)", "body": "Ok .. Terry and Mike ..how's the keep fit?????? I did 50 mins at the gym this morning . so feel quite pleased with myself. Did 5.8 km on bike at level 4 in 10 mins ..which was good for me."}, {"response": 467, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (10:15)", "body": "I went swimming quite a bit last night. Back home in Texas now."}, {"response": 468, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 18, 2001 (15:09)", "body": "anyone still working out??? I get most of my exercise pushing a stroller, carting around a six-month old and picking up toys!! (just popped in to say 'hello'... we're fine and healthy and happy!)"}, {"response": 469, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 18, 2001 (15:49)", "body": "Wow, glad to hear you're in good shape. I'm swimming and bicycling a bit, not much running or workouts though. What's the six month old's name?"}, {"response": 470, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 18, 2001 (15:53)", "body": "Ah! HI PAUL! How've you been???? Silly me. Kendall is her name. She is absolutely amazingly incredible! Wowzers, I still find it hard to believe I had a hand in creating her! And to all you like-minded fitness individuals out there... breastfeeding is a GREAT weight reduction strategy. I have a hard time keeping my pre-preggo weight ON now. And the breast sizes... my how they grow! (sorry Paul, no intention of spoiling your delicate sensibilities *grin*)"}, {"response": 471, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 19, 2001 (08:05)", "body": "I've been pretty good, Stace' I've been fixing up the Cedar Creek house, this week the big project was moving about 5 tons of flat rocks into an area between the pool deck and the pool fence. That counts toward workout time! Shocking, Stacey!"}, {"response": 472, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (14:47)", "body": "No workouts for a while since we've been moving around. But ... now I'm only 1/2 mile from the university we plan to get bikes and cycle in to the uni gym. How are you all doing?"}, {"response": 473, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (14:58)", "body": "Working out less since the end of swim season, around November 18th was the last good swim day. Maybe I need to join 24 hour fitness, anyone heard anything about this chain of clubs?"}, {"response": 474, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Oct 13, 2002 (18:05)", "body": "Well, 10 months later, I'm sure you've already joined a club... HOWEVER, I will be glad to enlighten you on my opinion of the 24 hour fitness chain. I joined back in January 1999 when I was doing the business travel thing. My primary alternate location was in northern California and, when I went in to inquire about purchasing some sort of day pass, they let me use the facility free for a week. I was impressed with their selection of equipment and the fact I could go ANYTIME and avoid the meat market scene. When I returned from that trip, I joined one locally. With my membership, however, I have access to all 24 hour fitness clubs everywhere... I think I pay $34 month for both Brandon and I (he was an add on after two years) but I know their rates have climbed considerably in the past few years... HTH!"}, {"response": 475, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 13, 2002 (19:42)", "body": "I haven't, I keep too busy on my construction site in Cedar Creek, that's my \"workout\". Actually there's a makeshift workout room on the first floor. Some pix I took today: http://www.wholetech.com/deck 24 Hour Fitness is in the old Q hq. $34 a month sounds about right. They have a 30 month free trial which I might try, when I get some of this construction work behind me."}, {"response": 476, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2005 (13:12)", "body": "I did the mailbox run in 17 minutes and 57 seconds without any performance enchancing drinks. Tomorrow I'll load up with Trek before, during and after the run and see how I do. Hot and schweaty!"}, {"response": 477, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jul 12, 2005 (19:24)", "body": "*grin* Running 3x week again. Signed up for another marathon! Smiles!"}, {"response": 478, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 13, 2005 (00:51)", "body": "Joined 24 Hour Fitness Lance Armstrong Club. Cycling. Running. Swimming. But no cardio. Need a trainer. After http://touroftexas.com TourWatch2005 I'm going to start working out seriosly."}, {"response": 479, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jul 19, 2005 (00:28)", "body": "famous last words... *grin* how the heck are ya?? *** Short 4 mile run this morning. I also signed up for the San Francisco 1/2 Marathon the end of July... a training run, if you will!"}, {"response": 480, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 22, 2005 (14:28)", "body": "I'm havin' one heckuva good time, stacey. My event, http://touroftexas.com , got mentioned by Phil Liggett of OLN yesterday. I put his remarks in my today's podcast."}, {"response": 481, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Aug  1, 2005 (11:32)", "body": "Awesome Paul!! Congrats! I ran the SF Half yesterday! These events are so different now that I have my two kids cheering for me! I LOVE it! Of course my 2 1/2 year old said, \"oh, Mommy didn't win...\" All black and white with that child! *grin*"}, {"response": 482, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:34)", "body": "I've been cycling just about every day. I just recently did the \"Pedal through the Pines\" in Bastrop, 17 miles. It was a nice ride and some kind soul stopped to help me fix a low tire."}, {"response": 483, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2006 (22:41)", "body": "8 miles at El Rancho in Los Altos Hills... At 6:30am the day was bright but quiet. I saw a buck, two doe, several quail, a hawk and a BOBCAT for the first time ever! They are quite little but I understand quite fierce as well! Gorgeous run..."}, {"response": 484, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 29, 2006 (23:15)", "body": "In the triathlon in Austin today the man's race winner was only 2 minutes ahead of the women's winner. They were both around ... well here's the quote With a 10K split of 34:43, Cleveland broke the tape in 1:55:30, 39 seconds ahead of Bonney, who had a 10K split of 37:03. Kozub clocked 1:56:22 for third. Austin's Lance Parker had the fastest 10K split of the day with 32:40 and finished fourth. . . . Ficker didn't let that last long. Coming off the South First Street bridge late in the first loop, she trailed Marsh by only a few seconds and moved to the front before starting the scenic bike loop. Still, Ficker took nothing for granted. The run is a strong point for her, and though she was never seriously challenged, she pushed hard to the finish, posting a 2:04:32. So there ya' go Stacey, that's what you missed. http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/05/30tri.html fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 20, "subject": "swimming", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 11, 2005 (22:22)", "body": "http://www.swimmersguide.com/query/Main1.cfm How to find a swimming pool anywhere in the world."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 11, 2005 (23:15)", "body": "http://members.aol.com/swimbetter/ Swimming Technology Research."}, {"response": 3, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:38)", "body": "Today I went swimming as it was the first good swim day of the year. Pool temp near 70 degrees. Air temp in the 80s. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 3, "subject": "When do you exercise?", "response_count": 27, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "lisa", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 1996 (18:48)", "body": "Whenever I can! Morning gives me a boost all day. Mid day does also. If I wait until after work then, it is too easy to blow it off. In a perfect world I would every morning."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 1996 (00:21)", "body": "I nearly always work out after work, occasionally before work."}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (10:30)", "body": "left work at a semi-reasonable hour and skated on the Platte for awhile. feels good to be able to sweat outdoors again (without having it freeze to your face) should be 70plus today. all the snow (all 14 inches) is melted and i am truly ready for Spring"}, {"response": 4, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (13:14)", "body": "On weight days, I hit the gym at 6:30-7:00 am. Runs at lunch"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (21:41)", "body": "Light swim today, about 20 minutes at lunchtime. Backstroked it the whole time."}, {"response": 6, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Wed, Mar 25, 1998 (07:50)", "body": "About 45 minutes in the morning during the winter. Light weights & sit-ups."}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 18, 1998 (18:56)", "body": "morning, afternoon, evening or (if at the gym) at night. I love to sweat, I love to feel 'the burn', I love to be able to eat whatever the heck I want and only fear losing too much weight (because it all comes out of the boobs first!)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "jgross5", "date": "Tue, May 19, 1998 (04:52)", "body": "I exercise my lungs and eyes (REM) while I'm asleep. So it's like off and on during the day & also the night."}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 19, 1998 (17:53)", "body": "*laugh* thanks for sharing Leplep!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (08:38)", "body": "Dont' worry about the boobs."}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (16:42)", "body": "why? they're not important anyway???"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (11:24)", "body": "ok, stacey, i'm here! i do spinning twice a week (40 minutes ea session). it's fun and it's a good workout. we've been doing it for a month now but have only started going twice a week. having missed 2 classes, i've finally got to the point where i can keep up without having to sit down for most of the workout. i love to sweat and this is the way to do it."}, {"response": 13, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (15:38)", "body": "Wolfie, what is spinning? never heard of it. sounds like it'd make me dizzy *lol*"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 19, 2000 (12:17)", "body": "it's a stationary bike but not like the typical ones you find at the gym. it has a free wheel which you pedal. you can stand up and cycle and everything. it's almost like putting your regular bike up on blocks. you have to use a break to stop because the wheel doesn't stop when you stop pedalling. i'll see if i can find a website or something to better explain the program."}, {"response": 15, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Mar 19, 2000 (14:43)", "body": "Sounds different! I'm hoping to get to the gym by 7 am tomorrow and get back into routine again. My rowing times are coming down, and I still may enter the competition if I can get fit enough."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (20:18)", "body": "Take care, my dear...moderation in all things Maggie!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (15:15)", "body": "I heard!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (11:52)", "body": "are you back into the routine???"}, {"response": 19, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:32)", "body": "No, I'm in too much pain. I gave up today, will try again tomorrow. CFS is a bummer!!! I feel like I'm wading through treacle, everything is an effort."}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (15:10)", "body": "How about today? Feeling better?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "ApeRider", "date": "Sun, Apr 14, 2002 (11:43)", "body": "Get a buddy, walk, run, bike ride, weight train just mix it up three times a week anything is better than nothing. Just reinforce each others participation and you'll have fun and stick to your schedule. Don't make it work! Walk stairs, use the push mower once in a while instead of the rider. Lift things correctly. Turn boring tasks into mini execises."}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 14, 2002 (13:35)", "body": "I try walking up and down as many stairs as I can."}, {"response": 23, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:34)", "body": "Anyone exercising?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2006 (19:58)", "body": "5:30am MWF - running ocassional gym visits and long runs on the weekends"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2006 (12:01)", "body": "I'm cycling every day now, but some days it's just a short ride through the woods. I've got a great 15 mile course from here to Bastrop and back. Do you think 15 miles is a good enough daily cycling workout or should I extend it? I'm looking forward to the Tour de France again this summer and watching it on OLN to get more inspiration to keep cycling. And of course I'm swimming, but it's harder to push yourself to long swims in a small 32' pool and I'm too far from Barton Springs being out in Bastrop. Tell us about those long runs, what distances and are you timing them?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2006 (14:37)", "body": "3 - 6 miles during the week and 10-14 on the weekends..."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2006 (13:37)", "body": "That's a pretty decent work. I need to add running to the cycling and swimming. The heat here is getting pretty intense. You know, Texas summers. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 4, "subject": "Ramble", "response_count": 509, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (18:59)", "body": "I've been holed up here all day but I don't have cabin fever. I love it at my place. It's night time. Outside it's drizzling. I've been building new boxes to put on the net, reading, studying and writing today. The evening news is on the tube. I feel like making a pot of coffee. I keep getting a box on my screen that says my outbox in Microsoft Mail is damaged. My outbox is empty! I got some interesting email from Elizabeth Gipps, an old friend today. And that's part of my world tonight."}, {"response": 2, "author": "Saman", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (19:02)", "body": "I can't believe I'm actually doing this - I usually steer clear of such threads :). But then this has not been a typical day! I baked muffins for the first time in my life (my mother is slightly obsessive about anyone cooking in her kitchen, but she's w orking at the moment) and they were a success. Hey I'm doing better than the Bennet girls - they couldn't cook. I also just got rudely interrupted from my spring-browsing by a door-to-door salesman wanting to give me a voucher for 20 free meals - only I'd have to pay $30 for it! I blame Neil Finn for it all. Huh? I hear you say. Mr Finn was lead vocalist for Crowded House - my all-time favourite band who announced they were breaking up in June. Their final charity concert on the steps of the Sydney Opera House was televised he re on Sunday, and I'm am currently slowly working my way through a grieving process involving contimuous playing of all my Crowded House CDs - maybe that's why the salesman looked happy to depart. Top that people!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (19:08)", "body": "Tough to top. The only rule in this topic is that are no rules and that you can talk about anything and everything . Total free form."}, {"response": 4, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (19:58)", "body": "During my one excursion outside, I acquired a stud finder and 16 yards of unbleached muslin. Prize for the most creative use of these wares."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (20:20)", "body": "Hope you find that stud. I'm kicked back watching the music awards on Fox. And I'm scanning in some ancient family photos of my Norwegian relatives in Minnesota. I'm building sort of a family album web page for my folks and family at Christmas. It's my life story too. Dishwalla's playing on the tube."}, {"response": 6, "author": "elder", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (21:47)", "body": "Moody Blues boxed set CD is playing (the poetry is a bit surreal), and I just finished making up an algebra exam to give to my students tomorrow. I have not had time to browse here since Saturday evening, and I must say that I have missed all of you. I skipped (church) choir rehearsal to relax this evening, so I suppose I feel a bit guilty. Saman, congrats on the muffins. It has been an absolute age since I used my kitchen stoves to do anything other than heat soup or cook frozen dinners! As soon as the semester is over, I will go to San Diego for a week over Christmas -- mom and one brother's family out there. I plan to take the S&S video to share w/ mom."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (22:23)", "body": "Moody Blues. Santana was just on the music awards getting the Century Billboard award. Only George Harrison and three others have ever won this award. Still scanning pictures and working on some website proposals. I've got 4 computers hooked up to a switchbox here and I'm flipping from one to another. Bastrop Internet Services is working on building up the new server, I popped another 20mb of memory in it last night and Scott's putting NT 4.0 on it. I don't know if it's back on line yet. Their website is http://www.bastrop.net Tomorrow, Matt is going to build up a new primary server to replace http://access.spring.com which bit the dust. I got a 2mb hard drive to replace the 1 gigger that went down. The rains have past. It's quiet out in Cedar Creek, like it always is. I wonder what Amy's doing tonight."}, {"response": 8, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (04:41)", "body": "Amy slept for a change -- but awoke at 4 am"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (07:13)", "body": "Good morning Amy, it's 6 am here and you've already been up for two hours, are you ever bright eyed and bushy tailed today! I'm going in to Austin today to take care of lots of business and things that are piling up. I've got to get that contract going with Texaltel (see projects) and get that machine to Matt (to replace the server that crashed) and a bunch of friends are meeting at pub on 6th street tonight. We had some interesting comments in one of the NetMeeting topics yesterday (not the one that's linked to here) and you may want to check them out in the 'apps' conference. Did you know that if you hit the 'enter' key twice that you will get a menu here if you're in a shell? But only about half the menus work so far. I'm writing shell scripts to do a whole bunch of things. Is anyone here good at writing shell scripts?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (12:33)", "body": "Even though I won't be online for the next 8 hours. I left my microphone aimed at my radio. So you may be able to hear me talking to other folks if you connect to me on NetMeeting."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (12:34)", "body": "Here are some of the pictures I scanned: http://www.spring.com/~terry/albumjpg/ And me as a baby: http://www.spring.com/~terry/albumjpg/terry2.JPG"}, {"response": 12, "author": "Donna", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (20:49)", "body": "I have to start making Christmas cookies and wrapping presents. I would like to get most of this done while my \"the little angels\" are in school. I will be very busy during the morning hours. Every year I say I will not go crazy but every YEAR we do. Oh w ell, \"tis the seasons to be joLly, fa,la,la,la,la,la,la\" * *** ***** ******* ********* *********** *** ***"}, {"response": 13, "author": "Donna", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (20:58)", "body": "1 \"Merry Christmas\" 232 \"Happy New Year\" 34443 4555544 566666665 67777777776 7888888888887 101"}, {"response": 14, "author": "Donna", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (20:59)", "body": "I guess half a tree is better then none. HO! HO!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "Anna", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (21:37)", "body": "HO!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (23:28)", "body": "I have to make it down to see the tree of lights in Zilker Park. See my comments in the food conference about my wonderful dinner tonight."}, {"response": 17, "author": "mich", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (23:51)", "body": "I'm having a hard time finding any holiday spirit this year. I usually enjoy gift giving and all the events but Novemeber has worn me out. Someone remind me what's it like to have a life outside of work. Donna, could you pls send a little of your xmas spirit my way? I'm in grave need. Mich"}, {"response": 18, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (00:03)", "body": "Sure Mich, no, problem it will be a \"surprise\""}, {"response": 19, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (14:45)", "body": "D'Arcy or Pemberley shape cookies anyone ? Donna, you already got some gifts ? Got to get them before the usual 24-hour-prior-to-Xmas-day. And it is a major plus to have kids, they really put you in the spirit don't they. Almost no choice but to feel it. My trick for the past years, particularly when all I had was a job and friends at the other corner of the earth, was to give time to needy causes (filling baskets of food. Nothing like seeing a two/three year old receiving is only plush teddy. Even if my situation as quite change, I remained faithfull to this commitment and it makes me feel great. Sending you my warmest wishes of joy and happiness, mich."}, {"response": 20, "author": "cat", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (19:40)", "body": "Not a good day today. Two girls in my homeroom were making fun of my friend Tara because she is skinny and short. They called her a Balemic Monkey (I dan't know if thats spellled right). They spread nasty rumors about her for absolutly no reason. They threw her books in the garbage, STOLE a few of her belongings, and on top of all that they threw away her BIBLE!! I am sooooooo pissed off right now. We also lost our game by ONE piont. It was a good game. I am not going to get any sleep tonite becaus John has invited 4 friends to sleep over. They are all loud and abnoxious (forgive spelling)."}, {"response": 21, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (21:18)", "body": "Cat, hope you were able to give Tara some support and comfort. At a time like that one really needs one's friends. Insecure young people can be so hard on one another. (And some of them never do grow out of it and become Caroline Bingleys!)"}, {"response": 22, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (00:27)", "body": "They should have a class in grade school/high school to teach people how to to love each other"}, {"response": 23, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (00:38)", "body": "But Donna, I believe that this is what parents are for?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (10:34)", "body": "Cheryl sometimes that is not enough."}, {"response": 25, "author": "cat", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (19:01)", "body": "People can just be so nasty to each other it disgusting! Tara was hysterical all day yesterday! I feel so bad as if I've done something awful. I feel so helpless! I want to comfort her but I can't. She is too upset. Things like this have been going on since fifth grade with her! I thought people in their last year of high school would at least be mature enough not to do that sort of thing. I hope she can forgive them. I hope I can forgive them. It is times like this to where the only way I can f rgive is when I look back and remember what Jesus did for me. Even though we laughed at Him, spat on Him, beat Him, and even killed the Messiah, the son of God, He asked His Father to forgive us all. He could have just jumped off that cross and destroye d all mankind with the snap of a finger but He didn't. He did not want to die but He loved us all so much. He wanted us to be with Him in paradise when we leave our earthly bodies. We do not deserve His love, but He gives it willingly. For those who a e offended by this message I am sorry for invading your beliefs."}, {"response": 26, "author": "cat", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (19:01)", "body": "People can just be so nasty to each other it disgusting! Tara was hysterical all day yesterday! I feel so bad as if I've done something awful. I feel so helpless! I want to comfort her but I can't. She is too upset. Things like this have been going on since fifth grade with her! I thought people in their last year of high school would at least be mature enough not to do that sort of thing. I hope she can forgive them. I hope I can forgive them. It is times like this to where the only way I can f rgive is when I look back and remember what Jesus did for me. Even though we laughed at Him, spat on Him, beat Him, and even killed the Messiah, the son of God, He asked His Father to forgive us all. He could have just jumped off that cross and destroye d all mankind with the snap of a finger but He didn't. He did not want to die but He loved us all so much. He wanted us to be with Him in paradise when we leave our earthly bodies. We do not deserve His love, but He gives it willingly. For those who a e offended by this message I am sorry for invading your beliefs."}, {"response": 27, "author": "cat", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (19:02)", "body": "I thought I hit that button once. Sorry."}, {"response": 28, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (19:56)", "body": "I spent the night waiting in a hospital emergency room....the victim is home and doing well, but meanwhile, I now feel like I am the one who need a doctor's care..... in an unrelated incident, I hit someone's car (black ice...nothing I could do)....my son 's snake is loose in the basement (Indiana Jones and I have similar feelings about vipers;I am contemplating a move to the Hilton)....I have to turn out a shepherd costume for my son by Monday or the PTA gestapo will come after me......On Sunday, I must s epherd a bunch of cub scouts carolling at a nursing home; only threats of bodily harm will get them to behave like angels(Hope the elderly won't notice the 'Batman smells' version of Jingle Bells).....my house looks like a sewer....by way of holiday decor ating,I'm thinking of stringing lights on the pumpkins that have frozen to the front porch......and friends keep wondering why I spit at the TV every time an ad for the Martha Stewart Christmas special comes on. Sorry to ramble, but just wanted to let you know it has been a typical week in the House of Grace. Ho, Ho, Ho! P.S. Amy, if you really want to find that stud, I would advise AGAINST using all 16 yards of the muslin....try working with 2 or 3 yards to make some low-cut little number that will hammer home the right message....be sure to wear that WonderBra (or if y ou don't have one, duct tape works the same kind of Wonders) ;-)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (20:17)", "body": "] I hit someone's car (black ice...nothing I could do)... ___ Oh Grace. How awful for you. Do treat yourself to the Hilton. Why not? And popcorn and champaign and P&P tomorrow. Can I come over?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (20:46)", "body": "Oh dear, Grace! Who is the \"victim\" and of what, if the black ice was an unrelated incident? ANd what variety of snake is loose? Fear not - in general, many snakes make very good pets and many others are of an extremely shy and retiring character and u nlikely to do anything to anyone unless provoked. When in junior high I was one of a group of kids who \"volunteered\" at the museum, and among our duties were, every two weeks, if there were no live mice available with which to feed the snakes, to force-f ed them hamburger, which they would not eat on their own, preferring their food alive. So two of us took on each snake, one holding the mouth open and the other poking the hamburger inside - then we had to hold its mouth shut till it swallowed the bite. The experience really stripped the poor snakes of all dignity and ability to inspire fear. Joan, too"}, {"response": 31, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (21:40)", "body": "Joan, the victim of last night's hospital escapade was my husband....he had gone to a Detroit Pistons game and was done in by a hot dog.....a piece lodged in his esophagus.......only with an ambulance, drugs, and a surgeon now behind us,and the victim fee ling much better, can I even dream of talking about the whole thing. (My husband was at the game with friends, one of whom is a thoracic surgeon and the other, a pediatrician. I'm left to wonder where they were during this whole thing!) My husband is a man of few words but because of this incident, those few are down to NONE, and he has to lecture on Monday. My son assures me that the snake missing from his collection is a milk snake...but I think this is a conspiracy to paint images of some benign creature hiding down there rather than a horrible lurking monster. (I am the only person on the block with cans of carnivorous snake food and freeze-dried crickets in her refrigerator - Woe to the guest innocently looking for a midnight snack.) Be assured that we are all now doing well.....and the HIlton says they do offer special rates for extended stays. Grace"}, {"response": 32, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (00:40)", "body": "Re: 59:31 - what a nasty and scary experience. One would have thought that in the company he was in, he'd have been in good hands! My husband is a man of few words but because of this incident, those few are down to NONE, and he has to lecture on Monday.\" Hopefully the swelling will have gone down at least somewhat by then. And if not, tell him to borrow a PowerBook, feed it a SimpleText textfile and let MacInTalk read it for him. [grin] I am the only person on the block with cans of carnivorous snake food and freeze-dried crickets in her refrigerator For a year or two I had siamese fighting fish, and was the only one on my block with live brine shrimp tubifex worms in my refrigerator. Equally disgusting- especially the tubifex worms! Joan, too"}, {"response": 33, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (22:54)", "body": "You beat me to it with the muslin, Grace. I'm glad you and your husband are okay."}, {"response": 34, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (08:22)", "body": "About beating you to it with the muslin, Hilary.......I couldn't help myself; Amy gave us an opening that was 'sew' inviting. (By the way,I threw in the duct tape just to please you.) If I had been smart, I would have gotten Amy to whip up my shepherd costume with the extra yardage and send it by overnight mail. The family survived a difficult week....I was just beginning to feel optimistic about life again.....and then I went to that party last night at the home of a Martha Stewart clone...... which was enough to plunge this hapless homemaker into endless depres sion! So begins another week."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (08:35)", "body": "I'm off to work this morning. I had a nice weekend. We had very pleasant weather here in Austin. I started topic 82 in hopes that some of you will email folks that are interested in the Spring. If you find someone to your liking in topic 82, please email them and let them know they are most welcome here on the Spring. This would be most appreciated. I finished tape one of P&P and am part way in to tape two. I'm savoring the experience of seeing these tapes!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (15:47)", "body": "Who is Martha Stewart? Should I know? Thanks for the virtual ducktape! I should really use some round here - three of our 11 ducklings have died, probably at the beak of our drake. What we will do when we go away is a problem. Saw Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt last night. JB was enjoyable, ultra smooth, BR was WONDERFUL, great voice, fantastic blues slide electric guitar, and one raunchy lady."}, {"response": 37, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (16:06)", "body": "Martha is the US doyenne of elegant entertaining. 'She' is an empire...does TV specials, has books by the dozen, her own magazine -Martha Stewart Living, and a catalog of upscale merchandise. People either adore her, or, as in my case, live to make fun o f her. Diane White, a columnist at the Boston Globe, has for years kept up an anti-Martha campaign. Martha parody books are a hot item for Christmas around here. Jackson Browne AND Bonnie Raitt? Wow."}, {"response": 38, "author": "Anna", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (16:23)", "body": "quote for the day \"Boring Women Have Immaculate Homes\" (from my fridge magnet)"}, {"response": 39, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (17:40)", "body": "Hil, my nearly dead nap page has a Jackson Brown song as its theme song: http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wno.html"}, {"response": 40, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (17:42)", "body": "Donna, tell your story about meeting Hornsby in the music conference, and I will tell about Mellencamp? Did we not tell each other we met them while pregnant?"}, {"response": 41, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (18:44)", "body": "Amy, do you mean the music conference here at spring? I haven't got beyond here yet. 'Running on Empty' is a great song, BTW. Sorry it is applicable to your nap page, though. Or are you happy its run its course? Just musing that its 16 years since John Lennon died. I still get sad about it. 'And so this is Chrismas, and what have you done, Another year over, a new one just begun'.... And Joni's still ricochetting around in my head: Its coming on Christmas They're cutting down trees They're putting up reindeer And singing songs of joy and peace. I wish I had a river I could skate away on...."}, {"response": 42, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (19:46)", "body": "] Just musing that its 16 years since John Lennon died. ___ I happened to be in New York just after the murder and went to the Park for the vigil. I will never for get it."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (21:25)", "body": "I love those old Joni Mitchell songs!!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "jane", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (00:09)", "body": "Hilary, I am so glad that Martha Stewart has not poisoned Australia yet. If she stages a coup and completely takes over here (she decorated the White House last year on her Christma she knows her way around), Grace, Anna and the rest of us may have to co me and hide out at your place. Jane"}, {"response": 45, "author": "Anna", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (00:37)", "body": "Jane - I am in Australia :)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (00:52)", "body": "... at a safe distance from Martha Stewart."}, {"response": 47, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (02:07)", "body": "I am no where near even the fringe of the nieghborhood of Christmas Cheer. I have baked no cookies, I have sent no cards, I have bought no presents, I have not decorated my house (I did decorate my piano studio for my students, but that's all.) I am up to my eyeballs in Christmas in everything I do but none of it has affected me. This is the busiest time for musicians, everyone wants special Christmas programs- I have 9 more events in addition to my regularly packed schedule in the next two weeks. I a so busy \"Making Christmas Bright\" for everyone else that I have none left for myself. An occupational hazard, I know, and in the past I've always been able to rise above it, but not this year. The only day I can even see a few open hours to shop is Dec . 23, and I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about entering a mall two days before Christmas! Santa, help me!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "jane", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (10:23)", "body": "Anna, I realized after I posted my message that I was only guessing that you were within reach of Martha's clutches. That gives the rest of us another potential refulge! Cheryl, I am in a similar boat, not as busy so less of an excuse for failure to make cookies, decorate, shop. My husband is out of town this week so I am with our 2-year old--I tried to go shopping but had to chase her around, and ended up spending a few hours at the mall buying only stuff for her. But here's a shopping tip that I found out about on the Austen-L, and bought for my aunt. Blockbuster has, for $29.99, Persuasion and Sense and Sensibility packaged together. The problem is, it is probably better present for you than for anyone you know! Jane P.S. Music is such a great part of Christmas---at least you can enjoy your work!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (10:24)", "body": "It is funny how the weather changes here in Oulu, Finland. In the morning it is quite warm (about +2 degrees centigrade, which is warm this time of the year), and there's little water in the streets. In the evening, returning home, you have to walk through several inches (20 in worst cases) of snow, and the temperature is -15 degrees C. I have to get used to it. Usually it has been -20 and 20 inches of snow all the time. The worst point is that it is VERY slippery... Hope I'll live through Xmas, I'll visit my parents and eat well... And have a decent sauna, with my mother's healing spells. We belong to a family of witches, after all."}, {"response": 50, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (10:57)", "body": "Real witches, Mixu? Tell. Jane, just think. Unless you are going to have more kids, it gets easier every second with the little ones. Today you can't shop. In another few months you will be able to avert your eyes for a few more seconds at a time to attend to what you need. Amy"}, {"response": 51, "author": "Grace", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (11:27)", "body": "Re 59:32 Joan, just wanted to let you know that my husband was able to croak his way through Monday's lecture and everything went well. (I had dragged him over to read your solution, he got quite a kick out of it.... and said to tell you thanks!) Grace P.S. This madhouse I live in also boasts siamese fighting fish....but we don't spoil ours with the worms you mentioned."}, {"response": 52, "author": "Grace", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (11:36)", "body": "Re 59:38 Anna, what an inspirational fridge magnet...BORING WOMEN HAVE IMMACULATE HOMES......I'd love to put one on my fridge but I find the dirt layer keeps magnets from sticking......time to buy a new fridge, I guess!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (14:04)", "body": "Hil, Re: Running on Empty 59:32 (Joan I am getting to like this notation) Did the MIDI link work for you? Amy"}, {"response": 54, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (15:16)", "body": "Re: 59:51 - Grace - glad he enjoyed it. :-) If you don't have to \"do\" tubifex worms, you must have a reliable supply of live brine shrimp - mine were too picky to eat the feeeze-dried ones. Amy, re: 59:53 - using the numbers is better than nothing, but not nearly as good as an automatically created link! For example, \"Re: Running on Empty 59:32\" - \"32\" is not about MIDI - it's about tubifex worms. (It's too easy to copy the wrong numbers! - especially for those of us who are numerically challenged! I count myself as one of these, having scored in the 4th percentile in a math aptitude test.) I have been playing around in the redisplay box below and have discovered that to go back just to a referred-to response, typing in \"32-32\" will get just that one response (which is how I knew that it was tubifex worms). And that typing a negative number , say \"-4\", will show just the last 4 responses."}, {"response": 55, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (16:47)", "body": "] And that typing a negative number, say \"-4\", will show just the last 4 responses. ___ That might be handy."}, {"response": 56, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (18:19)", "body": "\"Blockbuster has, for $29.99, Persuasion and Sense and Sensibility packaged together\" Thank you! I just called my local Blockbuster and they have it - and my husband is going x-mas shopping tomorrow night. Guess what just made it to the top of my list?!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (07:48)", "body": "I'm busier than you can imagine, and will be till the weekend. Keep the home fires burning Amy!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (08:01)", "body": "Mixu, have you discovered 'austen' yet? You're in for a treat!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (19:11)", "body": "I lost my wallet! This must be the worst time of year to be without credit cards."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (20:13)", "body": "Gosh, sorry to hear this Ann. Is there any chance of retrieving it? Where did you lose it?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (23:41)", "body": "Oh Dear - you have my deepest sympathy. This time last year I had mine stolen. Had to stop and change everything - including house and car locks, since there were spares for both car and house in the wallet, and had no ID. Then about 3 weeks later a ma il carrier found it in the bushes in a neighboring community - everything there but the cash."}, {"response": 62, "author": "mich", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (12:44)", "body": "Subject: \"software\" Last year, my friend upgraded his GirlFriend3.1 to GirlFriendPlus1.0 (marketing name: Fiancee1.0). Recently he upgraded Fiancee1.0 to Wife1.0 and it's a memory hogger, has taken all his space; and Wife1.0 must be running before he can do anything. Althoug h he didn't ask for them, Wife1.0 came with plug-ins such as MotherInLaw and BrotherInLaw. Some features I'd like to see in the upcoming GirlFriend4.0... - A \"Don't remind me again\" button - Minimize button - Shutdown feature - An installshield feature so that Girlfriend4.0 can be completely uninstalled if so desired (so you don't lose cache and other objects) I tried running Girlfriend 2.0 with Girlfriend 1.0 still installed, they tried using the same I/O port and conflicted. Then I tried to uninstall Girlfriend 1.0 but it didn't have an uninstall program. I tried to unstall it by hand, but it put files in m y system directory. Another thing that sucks -- in all versions of Girlfriend that I've used is that it is totally \"object orientated\" and only supports hardware with gold plated contacts. ***** BUG WARNING ******** Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before doing the uninstall itself. Then Mistress 1.1 will refuse to install, claiming insufficient resources. passing along funnies for the day. Mich"}, {"response": 63, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (17:14)", "body": "Amy, #4 response. I got ahold of a stud finder once. It was recommended by Norm Abrams, I think. Well, I figured this device would soon have me in touch with one or more outstanding specimens of manhood. Unfortunately, the device was not a stud finder at all. It was a turkey caller. I guess the items got mixed up in the display; this happens at flea markets. As a turkey caller it was effective. Several real losers showed up and asked me for a date. A week later I donated the turkey caller to the Chamber of Commerce because they were holding their annual Sport-o-rama and there was to be a turkey calling contest. At the height of the contest, my ex flew in from Texas. So I know the turkey caller worked properly, when used by an expert. As for the bolt of unbleached muslin, you could make several sets of sheets. 108\" X 90\" for standard flat sheets, I think. That's after the hems. It's good to have plenty on hand if your stud finder works well. Keep us all posted, hear?"}, {"response": 64, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (17:57)", "body": "Amy, I could get through to click on \"Running on empty\" but then it just gave me coded screen messages, it didn't play anything."}, {"response": 65, "author": "trainmaster", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (09:06)", "body": "I'm new on this, but after reading this I don't feel so bad. Christmas is kind of a bummer this year. Both daughers left home this summer, and the house is empty. I have a new granddaughter in Germany that I haven't got to hold yet.So am not really in t he Christmas spirit yet. My best to all of you. As for Martha Stewart, I wish she was real. No one can be that creative all the the time. I think she is a defense department robot that went haywire. Have a happy holiday to all, and to all a good nig t!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (12:19)", "body": "That explains Martha Stewart! No wonder."}, {"response": 67, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (18:11)", "body": "I found a nice #7 sable brush half covered with mud under a pine tree during my walk. I think it is a present."}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (21:20)", "body": "I called Scott Holman over at BIS and he got the dedicated ip to resolve. But that's another topic. I've been rambling around the house today, cleaning and organizing. I started today driving through the fog to a breakfast at IHOP. As they say around town, 'onward through the fog'. I feel like going out for a night time walk."}, {"response": 69, "author": "Kennebec", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (00:35)", "body": "Hmm. Been pretty noisy today. Attended #1 son's play off basketball game (we won), took same son Christmas shopping (he was miserable), went to my 91 year old grammies for a real baked bean supper (we go every Saturday night), came home around 10:00 to complete chaos. #1 Daughter crying because Dad had carted her away from 3 boys & 2 girls spell TROUBLE. (She is 14 and was horribly embarassed. One of the boys had been RUDE. Dad didn't like it. Parents call. Apologies. More howling. Daughter VERY MAD not at Rude Boy, no, Mad at Dad for intefering) This is the only quiet spot in the whole house (and it's already Sunday). By the way, I agreed with Dad and not Daughter and am trying to convince her that her 'friend' owes her a BIG apology. That the whole incident is really about respect and dignity. Being a parent is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life."}, {"response": 70, "author": "Mlydle", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (00:46)", "body": "Well, me and significant other were going out to eat when we decided to go by 15 year old stepson's fathers house (who is out of town) to check it out. Stepson was supposed to be spending the night at a friends house. Seems we had a idea that stepson mi ght be up to something. When we drove up to the house there were and wife unit walked in, about 50-75 adolescents scurried out of the house. The house was full of beer, liquer etc.. When it was time to go stepson had set it up where one of his friends icked him up and he left. We chased after him but to no avail. Needless to say, stepson is grounded till next year, which I do not know if that is more of a punishment for me/us or him."}, {"response": 71, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (02:20)", "body": "I am so glad I do not have kids!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (02:38)", "body": "And that's what I'll have the privileged to, in about 10 years. Preparing myself, I think...."}, {"response": 73, "author": "Cynthia7", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (08:07)", "body": "Hi, I'm new to Ramble. It's about dawn in S.F.Sunday morning the 15th. I hoping to get some leads on how to find out information about who actually makes those holiday ornaments in China, etc. or the toys. Having just watched the TV special last Sunday Mrs. Santa Claus, and the part about the kids making thetoys, I couldn't help wonder, as I went shopping yesterday. Me, I'm getting my elementary teaching credential with an emphasis in technology. If posssible, now that finals are just about over, I'd like to throw up a web page about this topic. The page would be dedicated to Iqbal Masih http://www.digitalrag.com/mirror/iqbal.html a 12 year old who was killed on Easter Sunday organizing against child labor My e-mail address is crapak@sfsu.edu. not the one that I had to register with Any leads would be appreciated. I'll try to check back on this conference but e-mailing me directly would also be appreciated since time is short and I want to have it up before next week shopping. I'll be doing research on who makes toys for leading toy makers, GUND, etc. and other importers who may or may not be using children to make the ornaments, toys. Happy Holidays Please feel free to forward this request to any appropriate list etc. Thanks for the help!"}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (10:15)", "body": "Sure, we'll be happy to let you set up your web page. Send your request to: mailto://terry@spring.com Be sure to let me know what username you would like."}, {"response": 75, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (11:02)", "body": "Terry and Amy - there are now so many threads - that it takes a long time to review just today's messages. Lots of IO time just to see that person \"A\" is LOL at person B's comment yesterday. I love those comments, but there is a lot of download time inv olved here. If we get a day or two behind, we drown. Is it possible to combined threads - maybe the older ones - on similar topics so we of limited time can cover the ground a little quicker. Maybe after a topic is a week old, it could be folded in with other similar topics. We have two addiction threads, two duckfaces, several minor character threads, lots of others that could be combined so that IO time could be reduced."}, {"response": 76, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (11:10)", "body": "The way to \"combine threads\" or topics as they're called, would be copy and paste a complete topic into a single response in another topic then \"scribble\" it. Or make it hidden unless you clicked on it. We'd have to ask Dave how to implement a scribble command or hide command or whatever you wanted to call it. It's not currently implemented. But this could be a solution. Is this what you mean?"}, {"response": 77, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (11:26)", "body": "Re; It seems that you have to be one step ahead of them. At least no one was injuried. I would definitly ground him{a year is pretty hard to enforce} and make him do chores around the house.My son said {who is 13} he should not be allowed to drive until{n o permit} he is 18 years old. I am very surprised at this punishment. He knows that most kids can't wait to drive just, like him."}, {"response": 78, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (21:14)", "body": "I just got caught up on reading my e-mail! 37 messages deleted from the trash bin! Whoohoo!! Free at last, free at last, thank God amighty, I'm free at last! (at least until tomorrow...)"}, {"response": 79, "author": "Saman", "date": "Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (03:50)", "body": "I hate what Christmas does to my hard-earned savings (perhaps dislike is a better word). I went shopping today for the major presents which I have been planning to but for weeks and ended up spending twice as much as I intended - mainly on stuff for me! I just checked my email and I got a lovely reply from the moderator of the Crowded House list I subscribe to. In my eagerness to inform the listies of an upcoming interview I mailed them, and then when it bounced back I mailed it again (and perhaps even a third time). Stupid me - it only bounced from one list member so now people around the world think I'm a hopeless newbie (I really dislike that). But Marck (the list operator) was really sweet and has made me feel a whole lot better. I think I'll stic to lurking on that list, and compensate by posting excessively here, because it's such a supporting environment :)"}, {"response": 80, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (09:34)", "body": "Amy (and all the others who are interested) Yes, a sort of. You know, the meaning here in Finland is a little bit different. It actually means \"A family with strange powers\", or something like that. Anyway, in my family there HAS been a real witch (I think it was my great-great-grandfather), who could, for example, make the neighbour's cows to disappear. Then there are some healers (like my mother's uncle, and, to a limited extent, my mother) and my elder little brother sometimes sees the future in his dreams. My gift is the same that my grandmother (from my mother's side, because that's the family) had: I have an inborn empathy towards people and animals. Sometimes I can predict very accurately the actions of some people, even though I don't know them well. It usually works for friends only, though. A disturbing gift, I'd say. I even saw the destruction of my 1,5 year relationship, because my girlfriend fell in love with a good friend of mine. I was the one that knew it first (even before they did), but since I've sworn I won't try to interfere with my empathy, I did nothing. Maybe it wouldn't have helped. They are married now, and happy. I think. I should visit them at Christmas... Okay, that's enough for now about the Finnish witches. I think it was no wonder that in medieval times the Finns were feared wizards. There's still some of the powers left. I know of a couple of other witch families, too."}, {"response": 81, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (18:34)", "body": "I have a similar ability to your brother's. Sometimes, when I am about to fall asleep, I get a sort of dream, but with a difference--I know that they are predictive of the future. Before I ever went to college, or ever visited the campus, I saw a glimpse of one of the classrooms and the teacher giving a lecture; about two years later what I saw came true. It used to happen much more often when I was younger, but actually occurred t wice on the same day last week. As a physicist and a scientist this is a bit disturbing. I must conclude from personal experience that time is not linear, but folds upon itself in a way which allows information from one time to be viewed in another. I also keep in mind a line from Billy-Boy: There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. (By the way I'm 1/4 Finnish (my paternal grandmother))"}, {"response": 82, "author": "Mlydle", "date": "Wed, Dec 18, 1996 (20:47)", "body": "In regard to the punishment for stepson, we agreed for him to be grounded till Christmas. You all are right, you must stay one step ahead of them. He being only 18 years younger than me helps as well. It only seems like yesterday that I was up to simil ar shaningans. In regards to the above, Well I have to think about whether time is not linear, but folds upon itself. Being of the logical sorts who did too much experimentation when younger, I tend to pulled between logic and experience."}, {"response": 83, "author": "maddog", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (16:52)", "body": "Terry, just checked out the apps conference looking for help on a problem I have been having with realaudio - yikes, that conference is huge! - anyhow I kept getting a server error message when I tried to get into the realaudio section - thought I should let you know and also to ask who/where else could I turn for help with realaudio questions - specifically I am looking for a way to obtain a new copy of the old raplayer 2.x plugin for netscape/win 3.x - it seems that now that realaudio has come out with .0, they don't offer it anymore (snobs)- and 3.0 merely taunts me with bandwidth error messages on my poor old 486/14,400 set up.... I tried clicking my red shoes together and saying \"there's no place like version 2.x\", but it didn't work......"}, {"response": 84, "author": "cat", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (20:15)", "body": "Hello Peoples! My computer has been used by my mother and younger brother for the past WEEK. It has been hard to be away for so long but I have comforted myself and have started to read Northangar Abbey. Who is ready for the Flu\\Cold season? The Octe t (my singing group) gave a concert this morning. Yours Truely got a solo in \"Emmanuel\" ....in our darkness, in our bondage, child of hope we long for thee, walk among us, dwell within us, be our light and set us free, Emmanuel, Emmanuel, our God is with us now Emmanuel, the daystar of our night is sleeping on the straw, be with us now Emmanuel.....Isn't that song BEAUTIFUL! I am also singing it on Christmas Eve. Is that cool or what?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (21:51)", "body": "Maddog, check out http://www.realaudio.com and try our conference again. That server error happens every now and then but you'll probably be able to get in next time."}, {"response": 86, "author": "maddog", "date": "Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (15:03)", "body": "thanks - I all ready been to realaudio, of course they no longer offer 2.0 (must have partners in the modem business) - It's really a drag when a company will not support a product that is less than a year old, just because they have a newer release. It k ind of leaves people like me in the lurch if we can't go buy a new pentium to run their new product. (sounds like some other company I won't mention but whose initials are microsoft!) I will check your realaudio conference again to see if there is anyone that made a backup copy of version 2.0 they might share..."}, {"response": 87, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (12:05)", "body": "Ladies, just have to share the words of wisdom on my perpetual calendar yesterday; reading it made my day. \"There's nothing wrong in the world that a sensible woman couldn't settle in an afternoon\". Happy Holidays!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (20:53)", "body": "Amy-- have you used all your muslin? I heard there is a KKK for persons of color: they call it the Black Muslins. Cat-- I hope your friend Tara is doing okay and you are feeling better about that ugly situation. Maybe the kids who stole Tara's Bible will peek inside and find something helpful. I find it very hard to pray for people who are mean to me, or to others. B ut when I am able to, it is liberating. Cheryl-- we have something in common. I teach computer stuff a lot these days, but I have not been able to give up teaching piano. But hey, keyboards is keyboards, hmmm? I like to think about how the piano was developed by Bart. Cristofori, whose huge tro uble was perfecting the escapement. But they said it couldn't be done-- you couldn't have a keyboard instrument that you could control, as to amplitude or loudness, by the way you struck the keys! Then many years later the whole thing was repeated from Mo g on, with electronic keyboards finally becoming polyphonic and TOUCH RESPONSIVE. Wow! I think Bach would have been nuts about electronic music stuff. Joyous holidays, all!"}, {"response": 89, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (22:55)", "body": "Terry - within 24 hours of posting my plea about my realaudio problems in your apps conference, I have been in contact with a very fine dude named David Bowles who searched/found and mailed me a new copy of version 2.0! I bow long and low to him, you, and The Spring for making this possible - I never fail to be in awe of the power of the net and the kindness of the people I have met here. peace and joy"}, {"response": 90, "author": "cat", "date": "Sun, Dec 22, 1996 (08:54)", "body": "I can't believe Christmas is only 3 days away!"}, {"response": 91, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sun, Dec 22, 1996 (18:10)", "body": "I am so bored I changed the curtains in my kitchen. Just a few things to wrap and a couple of cookies to bake. Hope everyone has most of their shopping done because I know I hate fighting the crowds. that must be the reason why it is so quite around here . Merry Christmas."}, {"response": 92, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (01:32)", "body": "I know that some of my friends here have been concerned about me and my complete and utter lack of Christmas spirit. I have had a few glimpses of it this past week; last Thursday when I attended the Jr. High School Band Concert and watched 11 of my piano or handbell kids play their band instruments in public for the first time, and again at my students Christmas Piano Recital, all of them dressed up in their Sunday best and playing all the old favorites! This morning my church choir offered our Annual Christmas Cantata and I felt the closest to Christmas that I have been, singing the wonderful words about our Lord choosing to become one of us to save us. I even came home and did some decorating! Tomorro w I am spending the day baking, for who can be a Grinch when eating Grandma's famous Christmas cookies! I am very thankful this Christmas for all the new friends I have found here. God bless you all!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "geekman", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (03:58)", "body": "God Bless You Merry Gentlepeople at this festive time. I'm so pleased to have met all of the wonderful people who make up the growing band of Austenites. I am especially thankful to Amy and Terry for their time, patience and perseverance, and of course their server space."}, {"response": 94, "author": "lars", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (17:56)", "body": "Hi Terry. Hmm. Suspected we had similar ancestry. Pretty nice place! Soon on way to bar to see friends before all take off for xmas. Fill myself with liquid \"charm and intelligence.\" Then probably enter cyberspace - again. Merry holidays to all from Frisco! Lars"}, {"response": 95, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (23:08)", "body": "You're Norwegian Lars?"}, {"response": 96, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (23:41)", "body": "Today, my sister and I trekked out into the blizzard we are experiencing here in Minneapolis and went to what locals refer to as the Mega-Mall, also known, more formally, as the Mall of America--the largest shopping mall in the United States (there is a larger one in Edminton Canada). I was pleasently suprised to find that the mall wasn't very crowded--on this Christmas-Eve Eve. Perhaps even hearty Minnesotans were afraid to wade through the snow and ice to go shopping (thank God for 4-WD!). But I believe it is more likely that they were all hanging their heads in shame after the trouncing the Vikings took yesterday at the hands of the Green Bay Packers 38-10 (GO PACK!!!). Your Eternal Cheesehead--Ann"}, {"response": 97, "author": "Mlydle", "date": "Tue, Dec 24, 1996 (01:41)", "body": "Well, here in Austin its a balmy 60-70 degrees. Being of the male persuasion, I find myself compelled to wait till the last 2-3 days to shop, so I was one of the many hurried masses going madly from place to place (thank god for Valium and relaxation tap es) trying to find that perfect gift within my price range. Need a John Madden Super Nintendo ASAP, stepson can't have all clothes. And all the while trying what this years Christmas symbolizes to me. But more on that later, Wallmart is open 24 hours.. ."}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 24, 1996 (05:14)", "body": "So, Ann, you're one of those folks we see on tv with face painted green and a big block of cheese mounted atop their heads?"}, {"response": 99, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (02:17)", "body": "I got a cheesehead for Christmas!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (07:32)", "body": "Can we see a picture of you wearing a cheesehead on your web page?"}, {"response": 101, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (12:18)", "body": "I'll work on it! Thanks Terry for giving me a home page. It's up and running--and extremely boring at the moment (www.spring.com/~anneh/). It's basically all of my bookmarks. I'll work on making it more interesting. My sister has a scanner and said she will scan whatever I want, but she lives in California, about to embark on a three week trip to Italy, so it will be a while before any cheesehead pictures could possibly appear."}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (12:58)", "body": "I have a scanner too, if anyone needs to mail pictures to me for their webpage."}, {"response": 103, "author": "churchh", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (14:11)", "body": "Hey Ann, I'm majorly bummed out that you didn't include your very own graphic that I made just for you, on your webpage. I spent five minutes looking for the quote and a whole fifteen minutes slaving over a hot Photoshop to make the graphic, so I think i t's the least you could do..."}, {"response": 104, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (15:31)", "body": "The cheesehead shot?"}, {"response": 105, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (22:46)", "body": "Check out my HTML Tags Tutorial: www.spring.com/~anneh/tagsaaaa.html Any advice on changes or additions are very welcome. I do like my graphic Henry. I will put it up."}, {"response": 106, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (18:09)", "body": "Thanks Ann for so pleasantly reminding me of why I don't live in Minnesota anymore, and why visiting Minnesota is much more pleasant in the summertime. The Mall of America is awesome, and so close to the airport when I come for those summer visits. Happ y New (and hopefully warmer) Year!"}, {"response": 107, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Fri, Dec 27, 1996 (12:20)", "body": "Careful with those tranks, now. Say, have you seen this new product that contains tranks and aspertame? It's called EqualLibrium. Hope you made it back safely from the bar where you stocked up on charm, etc. I have been doing extensive research into the construction of bottles, there being a major container maker in my town. I have discovered that most bottlenecks are at the t op. Tried to explain this to my managing editor; he is not convinced. Does your research bear out my conclusions, Lars? Or do we need to continue gathering data, replicating our results? When we have enough data, will we be able to perform analyses and re ort our findings?"}, {"response": 108, "author": "Donna", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (14:25)", "body": "My girlfriend and I took my 3 kids and her eldest daughter out for Pizza.Of course they always bring the pitcher of soda to soon.By the time the pizza came it was all gone.I had some left in my cup and eldest daughter had some left in hers. When my kids a re thristy watch out for your drink. My six year old says \"Hey Gee\" your not drinking your soda\"\"How come\"? \"May I please have some\" she said \"Sure\". His reply was \"thanks\" \"and If you don't mind I'll take the straw too\".It was done in the politest manner for a six year old don't ya think.We all jumped on the poor kid Scotty! It was funny.Then they had to play the jukebox\"Grandma Got Ran Over by a Raindeer\" it was hilarous.They all started singing. This is why I don't go out very much. What a scene???"}, {"response": 109, "author": "TJ", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (15:03)", "body": "WOW, first time i came to this area, but then again i haven't been around in a while....had to read all 108 entries as new.....what an interesting bunch of comments, statements, conversations, questions & answers. Absolutely loved it, sure wish this wa s an open chat..... I would definitely like to talk to many of you regularly........ Terry have you thought about putting in a chat area.......??????????"}, {"response": 110, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (19:58)", "body": "We have a chat room. You can get to this from the link on the main Austen Conference page. It is the Pemberley Drawing Room: http://www.worldrch.com/cgibin/Chat/nph-chat.cgi"}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:21)", "body": "Good to see you coming around again TJ. One of these times I'm gonna make it for darts at the tavern down in Bastrop. Let me know when the next one is going to be ok? We can get our own chat room if folks want it. The kind Pemberly folks have offered us their software if we want it. It's not ichat, but it's not bad stuff."}, {"response": 112, "author": "TJ", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:31)", "body": "from the looks of the stuff on the ramble page, it might be a good idea to have our own chat area.......at least see if anyone else has an interest.......but right now I think I'll check out the Pemberly Drawing Room.........Paul, yea it is nice to be bac k......do you have anything to do the Bastrop Internet Services??????.......do you know Daryl Kouba??????......hope to see you on Thursday (darts)..........."}, {"response": 113, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:35)", "body": "I have two servers on the bastrop.net. I can't get a hold of the kid who does their web page. I'm looking for someone in the Bastrop area, a high school kid would be ok, who can work part time at the Spring installing networks, configuring servers, and doing data entry work. I have a plan to make the Spring a world class web site and I am starting to sense an organization forming. The folks in the Austen conference are really pitching in and helping out and starting to take part in some website projects. But I need some help locally now."}, {"response": 114, "author": "Linda409", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (14:56)", "body": "There are a group of us (about 10) who have formed a music group here at work to exercise our mutual love of music. Twice a month, we reserve a conference room, bring in our instruments and meet together during lunch hour. I play piano and keyboard (at work) and sing, all just a little and very ill, indeed. But, it is something else that affords me an extraordinary source of pleasure (like Jane Austen). We play and sing lots of different kinds of music because we have different tastes which include popular, country, standards, classical. We haven't had the nerve to attempt jazz, yet. One of the pieces that we do frequently is Handel's Largo from \"Xerxe s which is the piece that Mary sings in P&P2 (at the Netherfield Ball, I think). For the past couple of years, we have hosted a Christmas sing-along where we play and sing holiday music in the cafeteria and invite the entire building to join us. It has been well received. Today, I ran into Karen, who is a fellow music group member. As we were chatting, we discovered a mutual love of P&P and P&P2. I'm so excited!! I think that I can create yet another addict. Now, besides you wonderful internet friends, I will be able to talk about Jane Austen face to face with Karen at work and with my friend Barbra after working hours. 1997 is going to be great!!! Happy New Year to you all !!!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "jane", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (15:13)", "body": "Linda, That music group sounds really delightful. I recently found out that a woman who works where I do is a longtime committed lurker to this board. She didn't recognize me from my postings, but we found out by accident that we both like this place. And the significant other of a man I work with is a frequent visitor to Firthdom, and has a copy of The Making of P&P that she will lend me. Small world, indeed. Jane"}, {"response": 116, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (21:29)", "body": "Well, here it is New Year's Eve, and the state of the northern part of the state (CA) could be better. The Russian River is now 2 feet above flood stage and the people up there have been told to evacuate or prepare to be stranded. So much for the ir New Year's Eve plans... While the rain has not been excessive in my immediate neighborhood, 3 of our local reservoirs are full-up and spilling over their dams, and our entire TV cable system has \"broken\" somewhere and they don't yet know where or why. Before it broke we saw a few seconds of the New Year's fireworks in Sidney Harbour - and I think I spotted Ian waving at the camera. Happy New Year, all!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "Donna", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (21:38)", "body": "Rain has been excessive here {in PA.} to Joan. We had a flood in the Summer of 1972. Are you worried about flooding? The weather man said we only had more rain \"100\" years ago. Now that is very strange."}, {"response": 118, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (21:58)", "body": "I am not concerned for my own estate being flooded, but it is sad to see it happening to our neighbors to the north again - they got it badly in 1986 and again in 1995, and here they go again... Many vineyards are already under 3 to 4 feet of wate r..."}, {"response": 119, "author": "McBruce", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (22:32)", "body": "Heading into 1997 in the Last Frontier, our weather isn't threatening just darn inconvenient. Forecast for tonight is 40-45 below, extended forecast thru sunday is 30-60 below. On the plus side, tomorrow we break the 4 hour mark of available daylight! Had the truck plugged in all afternoon so it would start tonight, now the question is how long I can stay out before it freezes up. A happy and peaceful 1997 to all!"}, {"response": 120, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Wed, Jan  1, 1997 (01:00)", "body": "This all makes Boston's 20 degrees F. and 1 inch of snow seem so anemic. I wish you all a more pleasant '97."}, {"response": 121, "author": "Anna", "date": "Wed, Jan  1, 1997 (05:29)", "body": "On the subject of one in a hundred year rainfalls; about 5 years ago sydney had the third of 3 one in a hundred year rains in 4 years - ain't statistics wonderful. In the ritzy part of town a Jaguar was swept down the street and deposited on top of someo ne's Mercedes; truly impressive rain. Still, at least it was summer, so warm, if wet. I hope those in need dry out soon."}, {"response": 122, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Jan  1, 1997 (05:54)", "body": "It is warm (relatively speaking) though wet here - it is pouring as I type yet at almost 3 AM it is only 64 F outside. Pineapple express for sure!"}, {"response": 123, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan  1, 1997 (11:58)", "body": "Austin's sixth street partied down last night and I got a video of myself at the stroke of midnight on the Springs' main page . I started out at the KOOP party at Armageddon and ended up with the masses on Sixth, watching the big silver start get hoisted by a huge crane. Now, I'm sitting in Cedar Creek with my coffee and toast. Happy New Year everyone!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Thu, Jan  2, 1997 (00:53)", "body": "For all of you suffering through some absolutely awful winter weather, we in southern California are busy taking good care of all the truly nice weather for you and would be vastly happy to send it your way at any time convenient!"}, {"response": 125, "author": "Inko", "date": "Thu, Jan  2, 1997 (17:20)", "body": "Mary, my visiting daughter would greatly appreciate it if you would send your truly nice weather to Seattle. She's heading back there tomorrow and would like to return to decent weather!;-)"}, {"response": 126, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Jan  2, 1997 (18:58)", "body": "and would be vastly happy to send it your way at any time convenient! Please do not stand on ceremony or await an invitation! Any time at all would be convenient! Stepping on my lawn sounds and feels like treading on saturated sponges. :-("}, {"response": 127, "author": "tedchong", "date": "Thu, Jan  2, 1997 (19:23)", "body": "Hi Terry, we still cannot access news.prismnet.com for quite some time after you switch from iamerica.net. It seems like prismnet did not open usenet access for our IP addresses. Hope you can check this matter and happy new year."}, {"response": 128, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (00:45)", "body": "I'll look into it Ted. Thanks."}, {"response": 129, "author": "tedchong", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (01:03)", "body": "Terry, if prismnet granted us usenet access, we can use tin to access the usenet news, but you have to do (at shell prompt): rm /etc/nntpserver ; echo news.prismnet.com > /etc/nntpserver so all of us can access the news. Hope it helps."}, {"response": 130, "author": "lilah", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (21:11)", "body": "It's just after 9 pm here in South Florida, and I'm recovering from a day at work that can best be described as, \"OK, folks, the holidays are over.\" Yikes. I'm an editor, learning a new city and looking for a new circle of friends. I just found the Spring yesterday -- not to mention the Austen group. I suspect I've found some kindred spirits."}, {"response": 131, "author": "Amy", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (21:45)", "body": "Where did you come from Lilah? What kind of editor?"}, {"response": 132, "author": "lilah", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (23:14)", "body": "Amy, I moved here from Hoboken, N J, where I lived for a number of years, working in Manhattan and New Jersey as a newspaper editor. I do the same thing here, for a group of small specialty papers."}, {"response": 133, "author": "geekman", "date": "Sun, Jan  5, 1997 (21:00)", "body": "Terry, you didn't say that this topic was in multiple Conferences! I just thought I'd visit the Cultures Conference and 'lo what did I see but this topis! Tch tch!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "Anna", "date": "Sun, Jan  5, 1997 (21:32)", "body": "]topic was in multiple Conferences! That's been apparent from the postings from \"strangers\" for some time. It's also in porch"}, {"response": 135, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan  6, 1997 (18:41)", "body": "When you do a listing of topics, it states that it's a \"linked topic\"."}, {"response": 136, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan  6, 1997 (21:29)", "body": "It also states \"linked item\" every time you read new stuff in it right at the top of the topic. On future \"linked topics\" I'll post a note that they are linked in the intro or in one of the responses to make this clear."}, {"response": 137, "author": "geekman", "date": "Tue, Jan  7, 1997 (05:09)", "body": "Thanks Terry! Will be much appreciated. From within the Austen Conference this time."}, {"response": 138, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (23:22)", "body": "_______________________________________________________ \"Why did the chicken cross the road?\" ----------------------------------------------------- Plato: For the greater good. Karl Marx: It was a historical inevitability. Thomas de Torquemada: Give me ten minutes with the chicken and I'll find out. Timothy Leary: Because that's the only kind of trip the Establishment would let it take. Douglas Adams: Forty-two. Nietzsche: Because if you gaze too long across the Road, the Road gazes also across you. Oliver North: National Security was at stake. Carl Jung: The confluence of events in the cultural gestalt necessitated that individual chickens cross roads at this historical juncture, and therefore synchronicitously brought such occurrences into being. Jean-Paul Sartre: In order to act in good faith and be true to itself, the chicken found it necessary to cross the road. Ludwig Wittgenstein: The possibility of \"crossing\" was encoded into the objects \"chicken\" and \"road,\" and circumstances came into being which caused the actualization of this potential occurrence. Albert Einstein: Whether the chicken crossed the road or the road crossed the chicken depends upon your frame of reference. Aristotle: To actualize its potential. Buddha: If you ask this question, you deny your own chicken-nature. Salvador Dali: The Fish. Darwin: It was the logical next step after coming down from the trees. Emily Dickinson: Because it could not stop for death. Epicurus: For fun. Ralph Waldo Emerson: It didn't cross the road; it transcended it. Johann Friedrich von Goethe: The eternal hen-principle made it do it. Ernest Hemingway: To die. In the rain. Werner Heisenberg: We are not sure which side of the road the chicken was on, but it was moving very fast. David Hume: Out of custom and habit. Saddam Hussein: This was an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it. Jack Nicholson: 'cause it (censored) wanted to. That's the (censored) reason. Pyrrho the Skeptic: What road? Ronald Reagan: I forget. John Sununu: The Air Force was only too happy to provide the transportation, so quite understandably the chicken availed himself of the opportunity. The Sphinx: You tell me. Sappho: Due to the loveliness of the hen on the other side, more fair than all of Hellas' fine armies. Henry David Thoreau: To live deliberately ... and suck all the marrow out of life. Mark Twain: The news of its crossing has been greatly exaggerated. Stephen Jay Gould: It is possible that there is a sociobiological explanation for it, but we have been deluged in recent years with sociobiological stories despite the fact that we have little direct evidence about the genetics of behavior, and we do not know how to obtain it for the specific behaviors that figure most prominently in sociobiological speculation. Joseph Stalin: I don't care. Catch it. Crack its eggs to make my omlette. Captain James T. Kirk: To boldly go where no chicken has gone before. Machiavelli: So that its subjects will view it with admiration, as a chicken which has the daring and courage to boldly cross the road, but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely chicken's dominion maintained. Hippocrates: Because of an excess of pleghm in its pancreas. Andersen Consultant: Deregulation of the chicken's side of the road was threatening its dominant market position. The chicken was faced with significant challenges to create and develop the competencies required for the newly competitive market. Andersen Consulting, in a partnering relationship with the client, helped the chicken by rethinking its physical distribution strategy and implementation processes. Using the Poultry Integration Model (PIM) Andersen helped the chicken use its skills, methodologies, knowledge capital and experiences to align the chicken's people, processes and technology in support of its overall strategy within a Program Management framework. Andersen Consulting convened a diverse cross-spectrum of road analysts and best chickens along with Andersen consultants with deep skills in the transportation industry to engage in a two-day itinerary of meetings in order to leverage their personal knowledge capital, both tacit and explicit, and to enable them to synergize with each other in order to achieve the implicit goals of delivering and successfully architecting and implementing an enterprise-wide value framework across the continuum of poultry cross-median processes. The meeting was held in a park like setting enabling and creating an impactful environment which was strategically based, industry-focused, and built upon a consistent, clear, and unified market message and aligned with the chicken's mission, vision, and core values. This was conducive towards the creation of a total business integration solution. Andersen Consulting helped the chicken change to become more successful. Johnny Cochr"}, {"response": 139, "author": "Anna", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (00:18)", "body": "ROFLOL!!!"}, {"response": 140, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (00:52)", "body": "Anna: \"ROFLOL!!!\" Me Too!!! :-)"}, {"response": 141, "author": "churchh", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (06:21)", "body": "There's a slightly different collection linked to from near the end of the Jane Austen jokes file at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/austt10j.html ; this version includes a Pride and Prejudice version of the chicken joke..."}, {"response": 142, "author": "Mari", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (14:11)", "body": "Oh dear... Oh dear... I have to wipe my eyes now to resume my viewing."}, {"response": 143, "author": "Inko", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (14:21)", "body": "Another ROFLOL. With your permission, may I e-mail this to my children - they love these things and I usually get jokes from them."}, {"response": 144, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (14:27)", "body": "Oh, Inko. No permission required. I am on a list of one of those infamous net jokers. These things just get passed around. Usually the things she sends are stupid, but if I get an LOL from any of them as I did with this, I shall put them up."}, {"response": 145, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (17:50)", "body": "SAY CHEESE!!! WE ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!!!"}, {"response": 146, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (18:07)", "body": "Ann - I am happy for you. and for all those barechested men in the stands the announcers kept talking about. what a way to call the rest of us sissies."}, {"response": 147, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (18:30)", "body": "There's joy in cheeshead land."}, {"response": 148, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (19:30)", "body": "]There's joy in cheeshead land. Not to mention Beantown!"}, {"response": 149, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (20:18)", "body": "Congratulations Ann (Cheesehead) and Myretta (Beantowner) - it's nice to see some different teams in the Superbowl. Now - are you two going to have a bet on the outcome????;-)"}, {"response": 150, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (20:49)", "body": "Alright, the beaner and the cheeshead toe to toe."}, {"response": 151, "author": "candace", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (21:09)", "body": "Yummmm, does this mean that at all the Super Bowl parties -- Bean dip and Cheese Doritos will be served?"}, {"response": 152, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (21:40)", "body": "Woo-hoo, Ann...maybe it will help you forget last year ? ;)"}, {"response": 153, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (21:43)", "body": "BTW, people...only a month until catchers and pitchers report to Spring Training. Can't wait. Go Braves."}, {"response": 154, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (21:54)", "body": "PLEASE, Mrs. Bennet, no sports, I BEG you! :-("}, {"response": 155, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (23:09)", "body": "That's why I put it in the ramble topic, Joan. It is supposed to be for anything one might want to say. As for me, though I will be cheering for Green Bay, I have absolutely no faith in the team and fully expect them to choke."}, {"response": 156, "author": "Kali", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (01:26)", "body": "Ann, have a little faith! ;) --- Joan, sports can be a very welcome diversion from computers, I must say...I hope to be able to make at least one Giants-Braves series at the 'Stick (okay, 3-Com!) this year...anybody else out there like baseball? ANYBODY???!!!"}, {"response": 157, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (02:11)", "body": "Kali: anybody else out there like baseball? ANYBODY???!!! Kali, I'm a big Detroit Tigers fan, growing up in Michigan it was a part of my childhood training just like ice skating and mosquito slapping! I spent many happy days at Tiger Stadium as a child...can't believe they're going to tear down that beautiful o ld stadium! :-("}, {"response": 158, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (02:49)", "body": "I grew up a Cardinals fan. St. Louis. Busch Stadium. Joe Garagiola, Harry Carey, Jack Buck and Tim McCarver used to broadcast the games on KMOX."}, {"response": 159, "author": "Kali", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (04:13)", "body": "Harry Caray...sigh...I've grown up on Skip Caray... Yay for you guys...baseball lives! And yes, Cheryl...stadiumwrecking is a crying shame...I had the displeasure of seeing Comiskey in varying degrees of demolition whilst the new Comiskey was constructed...almost like the life was being sucked out of the old stadium and being pumped into the new..."}, {"response": 160, "author": "geekman", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (04:41)", "body": "Congratulations Ann or should I say Slart ? So your team is in the final. Well, the beleaguered Australian One Day Cricket Team has missed out on the World Series Cricket Finals for the first time in 17 years! And on top of that is the New South Wales Shield Team losing very badly to Western Australia , in their Sheffield Shield match at the Sydney Cricket Ground. Now let me tell yo all that when NSW Cricket is strong, Australia is strong! So come on NSW and Come On Aussie ! Oh, Cheryl , now if you would really like to see some venerable old grounds, come and see our grand stands at our Cricket Grounds!"}, {"response": 161, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (04:44)", "body": "I drove by some folks playing cricket in Austin the other day. Will you please start a cricket topic in the sports conference Ian?"}, {"response": 162, "author": "geekman", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (04:51)", "body": "If you'd like me too, Terry! BTW, what are you doing up at this hour?!? Now if you were in Australia... :-)"}, {"response": 163, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (05:42)", "body": "I had to come in to work early today because we're facing an ice storm and the company I work for is on a crash project and need everyone they can to be here. I'm not normally up at this hour. Have you seen that austen is the feature on the Spring's main page today? If I were in Australia I'd probably be warmer now."}, {"response": 164, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (08:47)", "body": "Another connection, Cheryl. I grew up as a Tiger fan too. Stormin' Norman Cash, Al Kaline (saw him hit a grand slam once), my mother's heartthrob, Rocky Colavito (sp?) And Terry, you lived in St. Louis? Me from 76-80. End of the Lou Brock days, hot muggy afternoons in left field. Attended the 7th game of the 80 world series."}, {"response": 165, "author": "Mari", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (13:40)", "body": "Kali, gang; live in Milwaukee, and my hubby was one of the many enjoying themselves at 1 degree above zero yesterday (although I hope, I very much hope, NOT one of the barechested ones! :) ) Anyway, baseball is my game; started as a Braves fan (yes, here in Milwaukee when I was just a sprig), have become a Brewers fan. I can enjoy any baseball game; when we vacation outside of Duluth in the summer we go to Duluth Dukes games; fabulous fun, e specially if the San Diego chicken is visiting."}, {"response": 166, "author": "yairl", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (15:19)", "body": "i've got to know how to make a good pizza any ideas????????"}, {"response": 167, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (15:51)", "body": "Must have a stone, Yair. That is the first thing -- unless you are doing deep disih. Amy Who Used to Live in Chicago"}, {"response": 168, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (16:27)", "body": "Amy: Another connection, Cheryl. I grew up as a Tiger fan too. Stormin' Norman Cash, Al Kaline (saw him hit a grand slam once), my mother's heartthrob, Rocky Colavito (sp?) Cool, Amy...I still look back on my 9th birthday as very special...I spent it with my Mom at Tiger Stadium watching a Twi-Night Double header against the hated Yankees...Tigers won both games, Al Kaline hit a homer in one, Mickey Lolich got a one-hitter i n the other and the Tigers went on to win the Series that year ('68,of course, not '84!) Can still sing the Tiger fight song I learned in 4th grade...\"Sock it to 'em Tigers, show 'em how to play...)"}, {"response": 169, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (18:29)", "body": "Not 'Teach me tiger', Cheryl????"}, {"response": 170, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (18:36)", "body": "We're all behind our baseball team. Go get em tigers. Right? Go get em, Detroit Tigers. Go get em Tigers!"}, {"response": 171, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (20:14)", "body": "I like the Saint Paul Saints--Northern League team that put the fun back into going to see baseball games. They are a total hoot. (Daryl Strawberry slept here)"}, {"response": 172, "author": "lilah", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (20:44)", "body": "Terry, Amy -- St. Louis is my home town. I remember seeing Stan Musial play at old Sportsman's Park (I was a tiny child, OK?) There ARE no announcers to compare with Jack Buck and Harry Caray describing the game on a hot August night on KMOX -- \"this is t he Cardinal baseball network.\""}, {"response": 173, "author": "Kali", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (20:48)", "body": "Yay! More baseball fans! Wow, Mari...you're an even older Bravie than I am...I got hooked back in the eighties, when they still sucked...a great time to love baseball, b/c every game was personal. Fay Vincent was even threatening to review our status as an Atlanta team! I still have my Dale Murphy baseball card collection...over 300 cards, including his two rookie cards and one I got autographed. --- Good pizza? Zachary's stuffed is the best...they make their dough with beer and put the sauce on top and the toppings inside (go figure)...unfortunately, you can only get Zack's in Oakland and Berkeley...:("}, {"response": 174, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (00:14)", "body": "Talking, pizza : fav : thin crust with pesto, goat cheese, green and black olives, onions, prosciutto and walnuts. Other one is curried chicken pizza If you're in the vicinity of Montreal, go or order at Pizzedelic."}, {"response": 175, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (09:27)", "body": "Another Braves fan here! The Murph was great, also BRUUUUCE Benedict and Jeff Treadway and Lonnie Smith (so what if he fell for the deke--they should have been able to get him home). Go Braves!!!"}, {"response": 176, "author": "Mari", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (17:16)", "body": "LLohr (lilah)''There ARE no announcers to compare with Jack Buck and Harry Caray describing the game on a hot August night on KMOX -- \"this is the Cardinal baseball network.\"'' Lilah, I beg to differ; there is nothing like driving home from your summer vacation and enjoying Bob Uecker announcing the Sunday afternoon Brewer's game...''Get up..Get up.. Get outta here....''"}, {"response": 177, "author": "lilah", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (19:10)", "body": "Mari, I'd just about settle for any announcer describing any game...are football and basketball seasons over yet???"}, {"response": 178, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (23:06)", "body": "I grew up in Minnesota BEFORE the Twins and the Vikes, so am thrilled the 'Pack is Back'. Saw my first major league game in Tiger (then Briggs) Stadium because that's one of the things we always did when we visited our Detroit relatives. Great memories. .are they really going to tear that wonderful stadium down, can't believe it."}, {"response": 179, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (23:56)", "body": "Moved to collapse topics: Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (10:14) | Laura McCarthy ( LauraM ) Sorry, but I must do this. GO PATS!!!!!!! JAMBALYA YA JAMBALAYA YA.... Think of me doing a really stupid dance right now. 4 responses total."}, {"response": 1, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (10:22)", "body": "Good. Laura, I am happy for you. Thanks for sharing, dear. Sincerely. (But can we have a little talk about willynilly topic creation/)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "Mari", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (17:12)", "body": "Laura; go to the Ramble topic; we are having quite the sports dicussion over there; of course you'll have to excuse us Wisconsinites if we don't join in your cheer;))"}, {"response": 3, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (17:27)", "body": "Go Pack!!!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "Becks", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (22:17)", "body": "Football in a JA bulletin board!!! Insupportable!!!!"}, {"response": 180, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (01:43)", "body": "Yep, Meggin...Lonnie Smith remains my all-time favorite left-fielder. And Bruce one of my favorite catchers...and Jeff Treadway my favorite second-baseman. BTW, I have one of Jeffy's broken bats...something only the biggest fan would want, considering h is relative obscurity! ;) Oh, and Jeff Blauser is also a god...because he's a Californian...;)"}, {"response": 181, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (01:45)", "body": "Oh, and Laura...I support your Patriot Victory Topic... :::) Solidarity among the sportsfans!"}, {"response": 182, "author": "McBruce", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (02:59)", "body": "Cheryl and Amy- how could you forget Denny Maclean? And not a bad piano player for a jock. What I remember best about Tiger stadium was the smell of the Wonder bread factory on the way in, cruising the Lodge with the windows down. And CKLW on the AM radio."}, {"response": 183, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (03:30)", "body": "Bruce: Cheryl and Amy- how could you forget Denny Maclean? Bruce! Another Michigander has come out of the closet! ;-) I have not forgot Dennt McClain, they could not have won the '68 Series without him! But it was Lolich who won the game I was describing. ;-) I hadn't thought of the Wonder Bread factory in ye ars! Thanks for the reminder! Fresh bread--what a wonderful smell!"}, {"response": 184, "author": "Anna", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (06:13)", "body": "Nice collapse Amy :-)"}, {"response": 185, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (07:12)", "body": "] forget Denny Maclean? __ Hey Bruce. Another link. Tigers and Bob Seger. Nice combo. Denny MaClean, the million dollar arm with the 10 cent attitude. re the Lodge: kid story about that another time. Where did you guys grow up? Me, in Mt. Pleasant, but I worked in Detroit for a couple of years right out of college (Central Michigan)"}, {"response": 186, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (07:41)", "body": "We have a Tiger Wood topic in sports by the way, the sports conference here."}, {"response": 187, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (07:46)", "body": "Did I say we had a sports topic here? I believe a Pats topic would be supportablee there, my dear."}, {"response": 188, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (07:49)", "body": "I meant of course, sports *conference*. Imagine, an entire conference devoted to sports and austenites are more than welcome to elucidate on any topic there."}, {"response": 189, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (12:39)", "body": "Amy: Where did you guys grow up? A Michigan Revival Meeting, eh? ;-) I grew up in Pontiac, a blue collar factory town, about 1/2 mile from the Fischer Body plant...walked many a picket line in my youth...;-)"}, {"response": 190, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (13:28)", "body": "Grew up in Albany, New York.............but left in 73'."}, {"response": 191, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (13:41)", "body": "And for the favorite pizza person........ i found that it you use the pilsbury pizza dough it is pretty good, brush it with olive oil and heat it up first with nothing on it for about 3 to 5 minutesR 350 DEGREES then add just all fresh ingrediants......fresh tomatoes, parley, basil, oregano, thyme and ground pepper (both red and black).....Crushed red pepper is ok if you cannot find whole to grind..... then chopped onions, green and red peppers, sliced mushrooms..... then add a fresh ground italian sausage or a good hard sliced peperoni cover with a mixture of cheeses 50% shredded mozzerella and the other 50% a mixture of romano, parmasian, provalone and white chedder return to oven until cheese is melted........"}, {"response": 192, "author": "yairl", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (19:55)", "body": "thanks tj but after having second thoughts about it i think i'll keep on letting dominos do the hard work. does anyone know anything about bangkok thailand i'm going to go there and i can realy use some guiding ."}, {"response": 193, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (22:20)", "body": "Kali, send me a splinter sometime! :)"}, {"response": 194, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (22:58)", "body": "You got it, Meggin! :)"}, {"response": 195, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (16:06)", "body": "Boy am I an outsider here! Never seen a game of baseball or whatever you're talking of with such eagerness.( Small chance in Sweden .) Have copied and saved those two delicious sounding pizza variations, though. And thanks Hilary for Tiger memento..."}, {"response": 196, "author": "Kali", "date": "Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (16:42)", "body": "Come visit, Ann2, and we'll go to a game..."}, {"response": 197, "author": "candace", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (01:16)", "body": "It was thirty years ago that we all met. Five very silly fourteen year old girls. Together we practiced for womanhood. Clothes, make-up, and boys. Little did we know that what really prepared us for the future was the simple act of being together. We would talk deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping sodas. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. We grew up together, the five of us. Transforming from girls to young women. We ran gaily then. Each of us, one by one meeting, falling in love, and marrying our soul-mates. Those years were filled with bridal showers, weddings, baby showers, and chil d-birth. After each milestone we would gather, talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our heeks. We went head-strong into our thirties. Each developing a new found independence and calmness which comes when you have finally begun to feel comfortable with yourself. Our careers were established, our children growing, and all five marriages still stro ng. We had all done our jobs well. It was no problem to leave our families for short periods of time. It was then that we began our \"Enchanted April\" weekends. Off to the mountains or the ocean. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and choc late, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. Our thirties began to come to a close. Each time that we would meet, we would sound like a Jane Austen novel -- \"How is your mother?\" \"How is your father?\" -- this would follow with tales of illnesses and hospitals. When or how our chain calls started, I don't really remember. It was a instinctive reaction designed so that the sufferer would not have to repeat their story more than once. One would call the other, each in turn. \"One of us is hurting\" we would tell the next until we made a complete cir le. Again, we would gather. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. One by one our parents began to leave us. We held hands and our breath and tip-toed into our forties. We now gathered most often at our parent's funerals. Although our husbands tried to comfort us, it was the five of us that we would seek. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and cho colate, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. Just this week another mile-stone has occurred. One of us became a widow. How can this be? Up until this moment, we all still remained with our one and only husbands. How lucky we were -- how well we choose -- how smug we were -- how fearful we are. Did we never think that this type of tragedy would happen? All along the chain call, each one said the same thing, \"I am so scared. We now must face the facts. There will be a time when one by one we will start loosing each other.\" Tomarrow we will bury her husband. After the sevices, when everyone else leaves, we will remain. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping wine. Speaking of our hopes, dreams, and fears. We will start out quite serious and somehow end laughing. Funny how there will still be tears enough to run down our cheeks. Thank you for letting me ramble."}, {"response": 198, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (03:03)", "body": "Oh, Candace - that is absolutely beautiful. Now where is that box of tissue! Please do share this with your five-some, too."}, {"response": 199, "author": "TJ", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (10:52)", "body": "Candace..........THANKS"}, {"response": 200, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (12:34)", "body": "Candace, it should really be the other way around....I thank you for letting me follow your rambling. I feel an ache in my throat and my eyes are a bit dim. This past autume my mother died and I miss her so. This life is ours to handle with care, and the way you and your friends do it together is just.... Oddly, I find it comforting that it is the same for us whoever or whereever... We must part from the one's we love. Better think of it now and then..."}, {"response": 201, "author": "elder", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (13:22)", "body": "Candace -- what a beautiful \"ramble\" on the blessings of friends. Our thoughts are with you and your friends as you pass another milestone. (And my prayers are with your one friend who is going through this painful time.) Thank you for wanting to share this w/ us."}, {"response": 202, "author": "Inko", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (17:09)", "body": "Thank you Candace for rambling and sharing so beautifully. When you think of the sadness, though, also consider the blessings of having five such good friends. It's so rare that friends can stay together through all the stages of their lives."}, {"response": 203, "author": "lilah", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (19:34)", "body": "Candace, that was moving, eloquent and beautiful. How lucky you are to have such friends to see each other through the inevitabilities of life. I lost my beloved father in August; watched my mom struggle with the transition into widowhood. That's when I saw the rituals and the resulting strength that a group of women friends give to each other, and that's when I realized I truly believe in a sisterhood. Thanks for sharing with us."}, {"response": 204, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (23:28)", "body": "Candace, my father died last week. The first person I really talked to about it was my best friend--her father died 18 months ago. We've been best buddy's since jr. high--a long time ago. Yet she still knows me better than anyone else, despite the fact that we now live miles apart. How lucky you are to have a group of friends to help support each other in time of need. No one else could make me laugh last week, but my friend Kathy could. That is what best friends are for."}, {"response": 205, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (00:33)", "body": "Everyone, I hate to break the sisterly mood created by Candace's lovely ramble, but it was recently revealed that our own Saman just got into medical school! Congratulations..."}, {"response": 206, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (00:50)", "body": "Meggin, I am so sorry. Yours and Candace's story make me even more thankful my own mother is better all the time -- just learned two days ago that a heart oblation procedure done a few weeks ago had been successful even though at the time the doctors pron ounced it a failure. S'man, I am very very happy for you. I know how much you wanted this. You deserve it."}, {"response": 207, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (12:52)", "body": "\"...our own Saman just got into medical school! Congratulations... \" WOW This is so exciting - where will you do to school!!"}, {"response": 208, "author": "Becks", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (13:42)", "body": "Way to go Saman!! I'm so sorry. Margaret."}, {"response": 209, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (15:07)", "body": "My sympathies, Margaret, and all others who have recently lost family members or friends. It's a difficult time, I know, when good friends are invaluable. Congratulations, Saman! Does this mean we'll now have an \"ER\" topic here??"}, {"response": 210, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (17:51)", "body": "Candace, that is one of the most eloquent, touching ramblings I have experienced. I have a photo in my family album of a group of women I know who match this description very closely. I miss having a similar relationship in my own life and it is touching to hear about it in anothers life. That's the photo on the left of the women I spoke, that's Ann Evans the bride, ex-mayor of Davis California who married a delightful Englishman named David. They are still living in Davis, CA as far as a I know. These women all grew up together. I'm very glad our week long task to put out the new Webstalker has been completed and the product is now being shipped out to reviewers and beta testers. This is the first free moment I've had in well over a week. I'm hoping to get together with the Unix team and the folks who inhabit this community today and tomorrow before I go back to the intense development effort I'm involved in right now. I'm sitting in my office/master bedroom in Cedar Creek looking out over the woods and pastures, feeling good. I've got the Wide World of Sports Ice Skating on the tube, this is one of the most esthetic and relaxing sports to watch. (more about this in a future ice skating topic in the sports conference). Ekaterina Gordeeva is skating now, what a fine skater."}, {"response": 211, "author": "Anna", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (18:24)", "body": "Margaret, please accept my sympathy. ] it was recently revealed that our own Saman just got into medical school! That's great Saman, will you be starting this year? You must be really busy as well as please. I hope you'll still be able to join us occaisionally if y ou have to relocate. Amy, I'm really glad to hear your mother is improving."}, {"response": 212, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (18:53)", "body": "Happy birthday Kathleen Elder!"}, {"response": 213, "author": "lilah", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (20:24)", "body": "Margaret, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family."}, {"response": 214, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (20:45)", "body": "Margaret - I am very sorry you lost your father. Hope you and the rest of your family ware getting through this."}, {"response": 215, "author": "candace", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (22:17)", "body": "Thank you to everyone for the responses to my essay. In truth, what I really thank you for is this wonderful forum and all my wonderful cyber friends. This was truly the best therapy. To Margaret -- I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my own father five years ago. I know exactly what you feel. Peace be with you all."}, {"response": 216, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (22:26)", "body": "Thanks to all for the expressions of sympathy. You have touched my heart."}, {"response": 217, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (09:22)", "body": "Margaret, otan osaa, as they say here in Finland. It could roughly be translated as \"I take a piece of your sorrow and carry it with me\", and means that I am very, very sorry about your father. Keep on smiling, though. Despite many things the world still is a beautiful place."}, {"response": 218, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (10:21)", "body": "otan osaa __ That is lovely Mixu"}, {"response": 219, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (20:31)", "body": "Terry, figure skating ranks right along with P&P on my list of things I really enjoy. Saturday the 'Stars on Ice' were in town and a group of 8 of us went to dinner and the show. The evening flew by and it is difficult to pick out the best, but Ecaterina's numbers were very special. Torvil and Dean were an awesome presence in the show. Hope some of the other contributors to this board have the opportunity to see this wonderful production. And thanks to you Terry for providing this great home for all f us."}, {"response": 220, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (20:32)", "body": "Terry, figure skating ranks right along with P&P on my list of things I really enjoy. Saturday the 'Stars on Ice' were in town and a group of 8 of us went to dinner and the show. The evening flew by and it is difficult to pick out the best, but Ecaterina's numbers were very special. Torvil and Dean were an awesome presence in the show. Hope some of the other contributors to this board have the opportunity to see this wonderful production. And thanks to you Terry for providing this great home for all f us."}, {"response": 221, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (20:32)", "body": "Oops, sorry for the extra post."}, {"response": 222, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (22:52)", "body": "I would kill (well almost) to see Torvil and Dean in person!"}, {"response": 223, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (00:47)", "body": "Candace, let me tell you how very deeply touched I was by your \"ramble\", frienship, family and the act of sharing is at the core of the soul. Margaret, accept these thoughts of peace. Loosing someone close, whether one who's life as been a long fulfilled road or, has we experienced last week, loosing a little one who had so much to experience, is never easy. Let us rejoyce in the happiness of their newfound home/salvation. Amy, all my wishes of health for your mother."}, {"response": 224, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (09:03)", "body": "Amy, I am glad you liked the expression. I think the reason why we have \"otan osaa\" is because if we said \"Olen pahoillani\" (meaning \"I am sorry\") it would mean that I did the thing I am sorry for. Anyway, I like \"otan osaa\" myself. It even sounds nice. I just happen to love Finnish, and feel myself very fortunate that I have it as a 1st language."}, {"response": 225, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (13:25)", "body": "Mixu, I greatlly appreciate the kind sentiment expressed by \"otan osaa\". All of the words of sympathy expressed for me and my family have meant more to me than I could ever have believed possible. You all don't know me and you didn't know my father, yet so many of you have made such an effort to let me know that you care. I am overwhelmed by all of this. Johanne, you write of losing a little one. How terrible. My father was old and sick and in pain and I take a great deal of comfort in the thought that he is in a better place, having lived a full life with many joys. Johanne, my heart aches for you."}, {"response": 226, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (17:16)", "body": "Just to make things clear, I personnaly did not loose my child this past week, heaven forbid, I would'nt be able to be here at all, wondering if I would have any sanity left in such a short time. But my dear friend did loose her very soon expected baby and having lost one myself a couple of years ago, it stirred up memories. So close to the miracle of life but taken away a nano-second before. No choice but to confort ourselves with beliefs of a better place for them and the faith in a destiny much bigger than our mere comprehension may aloud. Thanks."}, {"response": 227, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (17:24)", "body": "Most people have no idea how much of a loss a miscarriage can be -- at any stage."}, {"response": 228, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (11:06)", "body": "Most people also do not realise that 25-33% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. With such I high number, it should be more widely known."}, {"response": 229, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (16:51)", "body": "AN ANNOUNCEMENT I have, this day, taken down all my Christmas decorations!!! *Applause* (Thank you, thank you very much! Now I just have to get it carried out to the garage!)"}, {"response": 230, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (17:23)", "body": "That is very good ,Cheryl . I have still the tree as it is so fresh and smells so good; I have not had the heart to throw it away. But I took away the last x-mas cloth the other day and have only kept one electric candlestick in the kitchen-window to brighten our dark and early mornings in January."}, {"response": 231, "author": "elder", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (00:56)", "body": "Cheryl & Ann2 -- with both of your messages blinking at the same speed, I began to feel that Christmas was still here! To any interested viewers of CF movies: I recently loaned my copy of \"Dutch Girls\" to Mari. If you are interested in viewing it, let me know via email (kelder@miworld.net for home or k_elder@fre.fsu.umd.edu for work). I can ask Mari to send it to you when she has finished watching it. As long as I get it back sometime, I would be happy to share."}, {"response": 232, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (03:36)", "body": "ANTI-SUPER BOWL PARTY Grace and I were talking at Pemberley today, bemoaning a full day of the Football Fan's High Holy Day, when we decided that we should hold our own party at Pemberley! The madness, I mean game begins at 6pm EST, but the Pregame crap, I mean festivities start hours and hours before that. So the official party shall begin at 4pm EST, earlier if you cannot stand anymore of John Madden! ;-) Y'all come!"}, {"response": 233, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (10:13)", "body": "Who in your opinion was worse Dandy Don,Howard or John Madden?"}, {"response": 234, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (10:19)", "body": "Wow, Super Sunday is here. And we have cheeseheads and anti-Superbowl partyin'. Are you going to have your own anti-Superbowl half time show with entertainment?"}, {"response": 235, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (10:19)", "body": "If you are not watching but only hearing the noise, Madden's yelling is really grating. But! I don't have a football husband anymore. Yay!!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 236, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (10:20)", "body": "Hey, Terry, we posted at the same time. Are you a football fan? If you have time, would you look in deeper?"}, {"response": 237, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (10:21)", "body": "Madden's comments on the web are naive and comical. \"How do you dot com something?\""}, {"response": 238, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (10:22)", "body": "Amy throws a pass and Terry goes deep..."}, {"response": 239, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (10:32)", "body": "What?"}, {"response": 240, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (17:15)", "body": "Missed signal. Let's try that play again."}, {"response": 241, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (17:29)", "body": "Cheryl, I am here. Where are you?? Your thoughts (in chat yesterday)about Darcy as a quarterback have sparked my interest in the game, football...that is. But remember...if you get to be the team masseuse, I get to do the locker room interviews, up close and oh so personal. One more thing.....about those whirlpool tubs for the athletes...are you sure they accommodate two comfortably???"}, {"response": 242, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (17:32)", "body": "Cheryl, I am here. Where are you?? Your thoughts (in chat yesterday)about Darcy as a quarterback have sparked my interest in the game, football...that is. But remember...if you get to be the team masseuse, I get to do the locker room interviews, up close and oh so personal. One more thing.....about those whirlpool tubs for the athletes...are you sure they accommodate two comfortably???"}, {"response": 243, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (19:00)", "body": "Grace: One more thing.....about those whirlpool tubs for the athletes...are you sure they accommodate two comfortably??? Some things are worth a little discomfort! ;-) (and I'm at Pemberley now...where are you, dearie?)"}, {"response": 244, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Mon, Jan 27, 1997 (02:20)", "body": "Sorry, I missed that party,Cheryl and Grace. But from what I hear it was not totally without sports, eyh eyh, nudge,wink?"}, {"response": 245, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Jan 27, 1997 (10:03)", "body": "Ann, Mostly we made sport of the Neanderthals sitting in front of the tube whooping and hollering over such a stupid game. You'll be pleased to know that after much discussion, we also did reach some consensus about those Lycra pants the gentlemen wear on the gridiron. Should have been there!"}, {"response": 246, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (01:37)", "body": "Congratulations, Kali! On receiving her first law school acceptance letter But we never had any doubt."}, {"response": 247, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (02:04)", "body": "Thank you, Amy dearest, for your encouragement and optimism. You're great! :)"}, {"response": 248, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (02:23)", "body": "Brava Kali"}, {"response": 249, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (03:05)", "body": "tHip Hip Hooray! (Which school was it?)"}, {"response": 250, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (03:06)", "body": "Hip Hip Hooray! (Which school was it?)"}, {"response": 251, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (03:06)", "body": "Hey! I did not post that twice - though it does bear repeating. ;-)"}, {"response": 252, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (03:20)", "body": "I have only one thing to say to you, my dearest niece... YAHOOOOOO!!!!"}, {"response": 253, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (03:48)", "body": "THanks guys! It was Georgetown, Joan...:)"}, {"response": 254, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (08:19)", "body": "But, of course, I'm not at all surprised. Congratulations daughter."}, {"response": 255, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (13:59)", "body": "Was it not Mr Bingley who found it amazing that young ladies can have patience to be so very accomplished?! And in our midst are several very accomplished, who also posess a certain something in their air, their adress and expressions. They study law, go to medical school and I know not what! Good luck, Kali! (Just saw you in Best of chat!)And Saman too!"}, {"response": 256, "author": "elder", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (14:14)", "body": "Congrats, Kali -- and may you receive many more happy responses! I hope you have a large field of choices (although Georgetown is certainly not too shabby)."}, {"response": 257, "author": "Mari", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (14:15)", "body": "Kali, Saman; go to it, girls!"}, {"response": 258, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (14:41)", "body": "Isn't this great? We are all so proud, like a bunch of mother hens. It is sweet."}, {"response": 259, "author": "Inko", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (16:37)", "body": "CONGRATULATIONS Kali -- Georgetown is really great. Starting with the cream of the crop!! Congratulations also to Saman. What a bright bunch we have here - nice to know the next generation is in good hands!!;-)"}, {"response": 260, "author": "kendall", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (17:13)", "body": "Georgetown!! Great. congratulations, Kali"}, {"response": 261, "author": "alix", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (18:57)", "body": "Congrats, Kali! I'm a UGA person, myself, but Georgetown is an awsome school. Just one question, what is a Hoya, exactly? I've heard so many things from people who go to Harrison High School as to what it is, but those Harrison people usually have problems with that whole collective reasoning/agreement thing! Sorry to those that I've offended, but at least McEachern can agree on their mascot. One more question, has anyone noticed that allmost all Latin teachers are either nutty absent minded professor types, or grandmothers-from-hell? Just a thought."}, {"response": 262, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (19:59)", "body": "Latin teachers? Our Latin teacher in high school was a messy genius type. Here at Cal, Professor Knapp is very normal. He's married, with kids, and very nice. so, you're a Dawg (woof woof woof!), Laura? Oh...and a hoya is actually a retaining wall (selected by students long, long, ago...). It has nothing to do with the bulldog that the athletic department took on as a mascot. --- Thank you for your interest and encouragement, guys...you're great!!!"}, {"response": 263, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (20:24)", "body": "A hoya is a certain way of throwing a frisbee: Hold the frisbee with your first and second fingers on the inside with the second finger along the inside of the rim, place your thumb on the top of the frisbee, then hold the frisbee in a vertical position (perpendicular to the ground) over your shoulder, then in a motion similar to a baseball throw throw the frisbee with strength and with a flick of the wrist high into the air. The frisbee will then invert and float upside-down back to the earth--that is a oya!"}, {"response": 264, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (21:19)", "body": "A hoya is an ornamental plant that grows well in hanging baskets and has tiny star-shaped flowers."}, {"response": 265, "author": "Susan", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (22:55)", "body": "Kali, I haven't been on here long, but want to say Congrats! Georgetown is pretty cool . . . and you must be pretty smart! But then we already knew that. Enjoyed seeing your picture."}, {"response": 266, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (23:15)", "body": "Thank you, Susan! Glad you liked the pic. Ann, Joan, I had no idea that a \"hoya\" was so many things! The Hoya Laura was refering to is the official Georgetown \"mascot\"...which is not a dog, but a retaining wall. I know not why that was chosen by early Georgetown students."}, {"response": 267, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (01:08)", "body": "WOW OF THE DAY! Henry's Jane Austen Info site was featured Monday on CNN Interactive: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9701/27/on.the.net/austen/ You know what I think is neat? That sometimes, once in a while, good content is discovered and recognized on its own merit. Nice job, Henry. You deserve the recognition."}, {"response": 268, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (04:29)", "body": "Woo-hoo, H..."}, {"response": 269, "author": "elder", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (08:09)", "body": "That CNN write up is \"mah-ve-lous\" !!! Good work HC -- who's your publicist? ; )"}, {"response": 270, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (12:55)", "body": "Congratulations Kali.......i did not notice but were you one of the non fans for football.......(I guess i could read back a bit and find out).........but to many of us out here Georgetown is to Basketball what Notre Dame is to Football.....hope you like b-ball........not just the fact they are two great catholic colleges......... Also has anyone tried to make either of the pizza's yet...........been curious to find out if you liked it"}, {"response": 271, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (14:14)", "body": "Cool, HC! ;-)"}, {"response": 272, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (15:30)", "body": "THank you, TJ...I like football alright, i guess...basketball even less...but then again, I don't go to school for the athletic departments! ;)"}, {"response": 273, "author": "Inko", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (17:51)", "body": "Congratulations! HC. That's great publicity and a really nice write-up. IMHO You deserve all the accolades you can accumulate for your pages!"}, {"response": 274, "author": "Inko", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (17:52)", "body": "Congratulations! HC. That's great publicity and a really nice write-up. IMHO You deserve all the accolades you can accumulate for your pages!"}, {"response": 275, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (22:40)", "body": "Inko is obviously very excited! :)"}, {"response": 276, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (04:57)", "body": "Congratulations , Kali! (This is the 1st time I use blink... Take a deep breath and embrace yourself, because you deserve it (hug yourself for me, too!). Save the strength to be used later. I'll try to convince a tonttu (Finnish elf, a guardian spirit of places etc.) to follow you... If you think something invisible is living at your flat, just \"forget\" some food on the table - the tonttu loves it!"}, {"response": 277, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (09:53)", "body": "Hip Hip Hourra Henri If not for your webpages I probably would'nt be here, million thanks and **smoosh**"}, {"response": 278, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (11:07)", "body": "Johanne: million thanks and **smoosh** Johanne dear, is this the French equivelent of a *samooch*? ;-)"}, {"response": 279, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (11:11)", "body": "] Johanne: million thanks and **smoosh** Johanne dear, is this the French equivelent of a *samooch*? ;-) __ Wouldn't that be \"Mmmwwwa!\""}, {"response": 280, "author": "churchh", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (11:15)", "body": "If so, I think it should be spelled \"smouche\""}, {"response": 281, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (12:02)", "body": "Okay, then I guess my \"Mmmwwwa\" would have to be MMMMMMMMoi!"}, {"response": 282, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (12:48)", "body": "Mmouah, Mmouah, Mmouah Amy, I like it very much. Mmouah Henri, and when kissed dearest, something else than the spelling should occupy your thoughts ;) Kissing Fest"}, {"response": 283, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (12:51)", "body": "Well, I think kissing is a fine topic for this place. I'd not be ashamed to have either Ayelet's mom or mine read about it. We start moving the schwinging today."}, {"response": 284, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (14:06)", "body": "We're moving the Schwinging?"}, {"response": 285, "author": "Kali", "date": "Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (03:08)", "body": "I'm laughing my a** off as I type!"}, {"response": 286, "author": "candace", "date": "Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (22:31)", "body": "Kali -- A big Congrats!! Oh the places you'll go!!!"}, {"response": 287, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (04:43)", "body": "Thank you, dear Candace and Mixu..."}, {"response": 288, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (11:22)", "body": "What a find :"}, {"response": 289, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (12:02)", "body": "Congratulations, Kali"}, {"response": 290, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (12:39)", "body": "Congratulations to HC on Great CNN presentation ! By the way you must have been doing lots of work on that site this autumn if I remember correctly. I visited and used bibliographies before I found old P&P2 board, in September. Were the colours there then?. Looks nice and inviting."}, {"response": 291, "author": "del", "date": "Mon, Feb  3, 1997 (18:15)", "body": "Relationship No ship, please. Not now. I haven't a captain nor a first mate \ufffd never mind a crew\ufffd It would take all my courage to try a relation inner tube. How about a relation floatie? Frozen margaritas in the pool some sultry summer night? Relation = Relative = Relativity = Energy = ME scared. Time flies when I'm fleeing fun. Marybeth Gradziel June 19, 1995 Reproduction We women need not be alone for long. We can grow friends. Find the right seed. Care for the sprout. and Enjoy the fruit of our labor. Marybeth Gradziel August 22, 1995 Dream Thought I understood it all one night. How men looking for women get mixed up, and flit from one to another \ufffd always looking for more. If only they knew\ufffd Inside every woman is an infinite number of other women just waiting for true love, trust and acceptance, to come out and love the man in an infinite number of womanly ways. Marybeth Gradziel August 24, 1995"}, {"response": 292, "author": "mich", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (17:26)", "body": "Very nice Doug,thanks for sharing"}, {"response": 293, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (20:51)", "body": "OJ verdict is in, not read. I have this terrible feeling something awful is going to happen."}, {"response": 294, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (21:12)", "body": "I wish the media would stop making such a big deal of this. They are now saying that they will delay the President's state of the union address to wait for the reading of the verdict. Where are our priorities, for heaven sake???"}, {"response": 295, "author": "elder", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (21:24)", "body": "I agree, Joan too. I was going to shut off the tv when I heard that there was this conflict about what to cover! (However, the snow/ice storm here cut off the cable before I could get to the remote. :-)) It is delightful to come to this civilized oasis, but I had intended to pay some attention to the President's address. Oh well, maybe I'll be a more informed citizen tomorrow."}, {"response": 296, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (21:25)", "body": "At least ABC is going ahead with the President's address as planned. I plan to compliment them excessively!"}, {"response": 297, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (22:26)", "body": "This is really scarry"}, {"response": 298, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (22:27)", "body": "This is really scarry but on the other hand there's a lot of parodies outthere"}, {"response": 299, "author": "churchh", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (22:39)", "body": "My TV is broken, so I'm listening over NPR -- they haven't broken into the speech to announce the OJ verdict yet ;-)"}, {"response": 300, "author": "churchh", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (22:41)", "body": "Last message outdated -- State of Union solid but unmemorable... OJ verdict: GUILTY!!"}, {"response": 301, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (22:45)", "body": "The ultimate victory! ABC showed the President's entire speech - and then was still able to tune in to the trial just in time to get the verdict live . HA HA HA! Take that CBS and NBC!"}, {"response": 302, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (22:49)", "body": "I'm speechless....."}, {"response": 303, "author": "Inko", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (23:15)", "body": "I stayed on ABC all evening, and never realized that CBS and NBC were not on the President's speech. My feelings about the evening - what else is new???"}, {"response": 304, "author": "Inko", "date": "Tue, Feb  4, 1997 (23:15)", "body": "I stayed on ABC all evening, and never realized that CBS and NBC were not on the President's speech. My feelings about the evening - what else is new??? Sorry, I'm feeling cynical!!;-)"}, {"response": 305, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (00:45)", "body": "I'm speechless....."}, {"response": 306, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (01:21)", "body": "Clinton has an excellent sense of timing. He finished exactly as the verdict came in. Now that's a great politician!"}, {"response": 307, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (04:56)", "body": "He's a slick one, he is...;)"}, {"response": 308, "author": "Adi", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (15:22)", "body": "I'm in such a terrible mood, I had to share it with you: yesterday 73 Israeli soldiers were killed when 2 helicopters collided. Seventy-three young men! the majority of them were just twenty years old. they were just born and now they are dead... I know at least 2 of them (there are still 20 more names not published), and the feeling is awful. If they were killed because of the war in Lebanon - I could at least understand it, but they died because of a stupid mistake, and it was a horrible death (there was ammunition on the helicopters, and it caused fire and explosions when it crashed on the ground). everyone here are so sad. almost everyone knew someone that died. I wish things like that will never happen again to anyone in any place."}, {"response": 309, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (15:28)", "body": "That's awful, Adi. Even if they had died in actual battle, would it have been worth it? I doubt it. Most wars today are such ego-vehicles that I have trouble justifying them. And I've always considered myself a hawk."}, {"response": 310, "author": "Inko", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (17:15)", "body": "Deepest sympathy, Adi. It is always bad whenever young people have to die, but in such a horrible crash it seems even worse. Also agree with Kali, death in battle or in a war would not have made it worth it--but then I'm a dove!! I hate all wars and can see no logical reasons for them."}, {"response": 311, "author": "Anne3", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (17:18)", "body": "Adi, I'm terribly sorry. If the helicopters were as explosive as you say, it's likely that they at least died instantly. I hope that's some comfort."}, {"response": 312, "author": "Adi", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (17:42)", "body": "Kali, of course it's not worth it, those lives are so precious. those boys should not die, period. but sometimes you just can't help it - our men soldiers don't \"play\" in war, they are defending our northern border from terrorist attacks and from missiles. so it's understandable to die while you are defending your love ones and practically giving them life. I can assure you that in this case no ego is involved. what's killing me is that those soldiers were the top of the top of the youth in Israel: they were fighters in their way to their missions in Lebanon. they weren't just \"Jobnicks\" [=this is the name to describe the men soldiers who do office jobs like clerks]. they were already risking their life in their jobs protecting the rest of us, so they should have a better destiny than they had..."}, {"response": 313, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (19:22)", "body": "Adi, I can't even begin to imagine how you must feel. But I am so sorry."}, {"response": 314, "author": "kendall", "date": "Wed, Feb  5, 1997 (22:29)", "body": "Adi - I am so sorry. You are bringing the 'other side of the world' closer to all of us."}, {"response": 315, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Feb  6, 1997 (11:49)", "body": "Let me had my voice to Inko, Amy and all us in share this pain. We're thinking of you and all who is hurting."}, {"response": 316, "author": "lasalle", "date": "Thu, Feb  6, 1997 (12:26)", "body": "Let me add my sorrow, Adi. Life can be so unfair--the Israeli people have suffered so long; the endless war and persecution. So many Israeli youth gone in past mideast wars. Now, even technology revolts against them. And Israel the only real democratic state in the mideast. The older I get, the more I think the universe was somehow wrongly put together."}, {"response": 317, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Feb  6, 1997 (12:34)", "body": "Too many have Carl, Israely and not, whether the're made knowns to us or kept in the back of the medias priorities. Too many innocent victims, especially children."}, {"response": 318, "author": "Adi", "date": "Thu, Feb  6, 1997 (18:50)", "body": "Thank you all for your kind words. Carl, I never thought about it like that but I guess you're right: the universe was wrongly put together. God probably made a mistake when he placed Israel in the middle east. this was another horrible day. most of the funerals took place today. On the radio and T.V there were just quiet and sad songs, and between them - stories about the lives of all the dead soldiers, talks with their families and friends, talks with politicians and basically anything that could make you cry endlessly. I can't take it anymore. I wish this week will be over already."}, {"response": 319, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Thu, Feb  6, 1997 (23:48)", "body": "I just had to stop by before I head to bed to recommend a show I just saw. If \"Riverdance - The Show\" comes to your town, RUN to get tickets! I don't think I've ever had two hours in the theatre pass so fast! I'm not even sure how to explain it to you...its main focus is traditional Irish dance, but there's Russian, Spanish, and American dances as well. The energy level is just phenomenal. Also, in the program there was an ad for \"Tap Dogs\" which will be in town in a couple of weeks. Am I right in remembering that this show was highly recommended here?"}, {"response": 320, "author": "Anna", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (05:03)", "body": "] \"Tap Dogs\" ... was highly recommended here? mmmmnnnnhhhhh! all male, more 'modern' than Riverdance (at least the shows I saw) but definitely worth a look..."}, {"response": 321, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (10:00)", "body": "Kathleen, I have seen these ads for \"Riverdance\" but I think it is to purchase the video. What area are you in? I don't think they are coming here."}, {"response": 322, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (16:56)", "body": "MY CAR JUST GOT STOLEN!!!!!"}, {"response": 323, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (17:01)", "body": "So sorry Ann, hope nothing too valuable in it !"}, {"response": 324, "author": "Anne3", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (17:09)", "body": "Oh, Ann, I'm sorry."}, {"response": 325, "author": "Inko", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (17:12)", "body": "That terrible. I'm so sorry Ann."}, {"response": 326, "author": "Amy", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (17:19)", "body": "That's awful, Ann. What a horrible annoyance x 50 plus disgust and inconvenience and I can't even think what else. Yuck."}, {"response": 327, "author": "elder", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (17:28)", "body": "Oh, Ann, how awful. And it makes you feel so angry, helpless, violated -- a truly rotten experience. Were you at work or home when it happened? I hope you are OK."}, {"response": 328, "author": "Mari", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (18:25)", "body": "Ann, so very aggravating! Ok in body, if not spirit, I hope."}, {"response": 329, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (18:28)", "body": "Ann - That's terrible! Its one of those things that's hard to grasp - you know where you parked it and it takes a minute to register that it's really not there. Donna - I'm in the Detroit area. I don't know where its headed next, but hopefully it will end up near you soon. Anna - I think I'm going to check it out (Tap Dogs). :)"}, {"response": 330, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (20:03)", "body": "My car was parked in the lot in front of my apartment building and was probably stolen sometime last night. The cops were hopeful that they would be able to find it, but I doubt it. This is actually the second car that I've had stolen. The first one was stolen from my brother at gunpoint. The cops eventually recovered that one and the thief got 4 years in jail. Now I've lost another one. It is a pain in the neck to be carless. At least the weather won't be too bad for the next few days, so walking won't b too bad. Thanks for your messages."}, {"response": 331, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (20:39)", "body": "That's really bad news Ann. I hope you were covered and you get some new wheels soon. What kind of car was it?"}, {"response": 332, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (20:50)", "body": "1989 Jeep Cherokee Limited Edition with tinted windows and leather seats! I inherited it from my parents when they bought a Land Rover. It is a very popular car among thieves, but is getting on in years. I don't think there is any chance that I will be able to replace it with a comperable vehicle."}, {"response": 333, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (21:14)", "body": "Very sad indeed Ann. I do hope you get it back."}, {"response": 334, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (21:19)", "body": "Ann, what a bummer!"}, {"response": 335, "author": "Susan", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (23:20)", "body": "Ann, I'm somewhat new here -- where do you live? I'm so sorry to hear about your rig; Jeep Cherokees are cool. You have a good attitude about it, though. Hang in there and keep your chin up."}, {"response": 336, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb  7, 1997 (23:37)", "body": "I live in Minneapolis, not the best place to be carless in the middle of winter. I figure that there is nothing I can do about it. It's just going to be a pain in the butt to get it replaced!"}, {"response": 337, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (00:14)", "body": "I lived and worked in Mpls without a car for about a year. I worked as a city planner till I left there in a schoolbus that I recycled into an \"rv\". Bought it from the Owatonna School district. But that was then. In today's world, getting around in a good car is more of a necessity. I really liked the town, I met some very good people there."}, {"response": 338, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (01:07)", "body": "Will be sending good thoughts your way, Ann. Keep thinking positive. Hope this next week brings better things."}, {"response": 339, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (04:44)", "body": "Suck."}, {"response": 340, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (15:05)", "body": "Good news : THEY FOUND MY CAR!!! I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know how much damage was done. I know they broke a window and had to damage the ignition to start it. Thanks to everybody for your support, I'm sure it showed up so quickly because I had so many people thinking about it across the world. Thanks to all!"}, {"response": 341, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (15:06)", "body": "I didn't realise that yapp takes the word news and makes it into a link!!!"}, {"response": 342, "author": "elder", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (15:28)", "body": "Ann, that's terrific. I hope you can get your car fixed and functional really soon. Glad you didn't have to wait too long to find out about it, either."}, {"response": 343, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (16:41)", "body": "Ann, it's wonderful!!! You did get lots of instant support, and I'm sure it helped."}, {"response": 344, "author": "Becks", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (17:38)", "body": "Hope everything works out, Ann!"}, {"response": 345, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (17:45)", "body": "Gee, maybe we should start charging -- strangers, that is -- for this psychic service. Woman power. Be afraid. (Hil, did you start that \"be very afraid\" stuff?\") Very glad to hear it, Ann."}, {"response": 346, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (20:27)", "body": "Ann, So glad they found your car. Hope it'll be driveable soon!! There is a terrific review of P&P2 in today's NY Times by Christoper Lehmann-Haupt, a book reviewer. He compares P&P2 to the book and likes it very well indeed, better than any other Austen adaptation. Link is: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/arts/tv-austen-review.html"}, {"response": 347, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (20:37)", "body": "That is an increadible review!! (By the way, you probably have to register at the NYTimes site before you can view the stories there. I would heartily recommend that you do. The NYTimes site is one of the best newspapers on the web and includes most, if not all, of the printed paper (including the crossword puzzle!!))"}, {"response": 348, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (21:06)", "body": "I have sent the NYTimes a E-letter in response to this article. I thought I would share it with all of you: Dear Sir or Madam, Your reporter, Christopher Lehmann-Haupt, is not the first to fall in love with the BBC/A&E production of Pride and Prejudice. This production in particular, and Jane Austen in general, has a large and loyal following on the internet. There are several sites which have been founded specifically for the purpose of discussing this production, and which have subsequently been broadened to include all of the works of Jane Austen. Other sites have been established solely to provide information and access to Au ten's works on the internet. Some of the URL's are as follows: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeinfo.html http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/austen/all/new (requires registration) http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wwwboard/ppbb.html It is suprising to me that she, of all authors, has such a strong following in cyberspace. I am continually amazed by the wide variety of Jane Austen information available on the internet, as well as the variety of people interested in her work. The virtual community which has been created around an interest in Jane Austen includes men and women, it includes people from the age of nine to well over sixty, and spans several continents and languages. It represents the best of what the internet can be by bringing together so many people in so many different walks of life, races, and cultures. We have come together and have indeed formed a community. We cry together when one of us suffers from a loss of a loved one, and we celebrate when one of us pa ses a milestone in life. We support eachother, even though few of us have ever met or even know what the others look like. We are grateful to Miss Austen for giving us the reason come together, and are grateful to the BBC/A&E production for introducing so many of us to her work. I am glad that your paper has recognised this wonderful production, which has brought so many people to enjoy Pride and Prejudice and Jane Austen, and which has brought so many of us together in cyberspace. Thank you, Ann Elizabeth Haker haker001@tc.umn.edu"}, {"response": 349, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (22:47)", "body": "As Lizzie would say \"Beautiful\"."}, {"response": 350, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (23:03)", "body": "Great news Ann. Whewwww! * slaps Ann a high five *"}, {"response": 351, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (23:27)", "body": "Ann, what are we going to talk about next? Do keep us posted regarding your now recovered vehicle."}, {"response": 352, "author": "churchh", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (23:53)", "body": "Did someone save the review -- it's expired from the NY Times site..."}, {"response": 353, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (00:00)", "body": "Yes, it did expire. I did a search and found an old review about JA which listed your site HC."}, {"response": 354, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (00:00)", "body": "February 8, 1997 CRITIC'S NOTEBOOK / By CHRISTOPHER LEHMANN-HAUPT 'Pride and Prejudice': A Great Movie of a Great Book Plenty of bad movies have been made of good books, and a fair number of good movies have come from bad books. But a great movie of a great book? Speaking from a book reviewer's vantage point, I nominate Jane Austen's \"Pride and Prejudice,\" a co-production of the BBC and A&E, which is being rebroadcast by A&E in two parts, on Saturday and Sunday. I had missed the production the first time around, but when a friend lent me the tapes, I was instantly and completely caught up by the Bennet family and the thwarted romances of the two eldest daughters, Jane and Elizabeth. I did not get free until I had watched the entire five-hour production three or four times. The Bennets' world seemed more real than mine. I found myself repeating the memorable lines. I caught myself humming the music. As with a really good book, I discovered more and more to enjoy as I grew familiar with the main action and could concentrate on the smallest of details: for example, the way you can still overhear Miss Caroline Bingley (played with grand imperiousness by Anna Chancellor) after the camera has shifted away from the reception line at the Netherfield ball. But best of all was the way the film spurred me to read the book again after 40 years and to re-experience as literature the wayward romances of Jane and Elizabeth Bennet with Charles Bingley and Fitzwilliam Darcy. Surprisingly, the book proved somewhat disappointing at first. As the friend who lent me the tapes rightly put it when I asked him how the book compared with the film, \"It makes you fear for literature.\" \"Oh! Shocking!\" as Miss Bingley would say. To admit that the literalness of film might surpass the stimulus to the imagination of Austen's language. \"Abominable!\" But this was my experience at first. And it is not simply to be explained by the inherent vividness of film as a medium or by the masterly performances of Jennifer Ehle as Elizabeth, Colin Firth as Darcy, David Bamber as Collins, Crispin Bohham-Carter as Charles Bingley, Adrian Lukis as Lt. George Wickham and Barbara Leigh-Hunt as Lady Catherine. Other films of Austen's novels I happen to have seen don't come near to offering the pleasures of this production. One need hardly consider the 1940 Hollywood movie directed by Robert Leonard, with its mangled script (by Aldous Huxley yet!) draining the story of all dramatic tension, its miscasting of a too-old Greer Garson as Elizabeth and its simpering performance by Laurence Olivier as Darcy. Both the \"Emma\" starring Gwyneth Paltrow and a forthcoming BBC/A&E co-production of the novel with Kate Beckinsale (to be shown on A&E on Feb. 16) are entertaining enough but seem thin compared with Austen on paper. While Emma Thompson's \"Sense and Sensibility\" has much to recommend it, it suffers considerably from the lack of the novel's ironic narrative voice, which mercifully distances the reader from the excesses of its two leading characters. And \"Persuasion,\" while the best of the feature-length adaptations of Austen, is so brilliantly cinematic that one almost misses Austen's narrative voice. Moreover, it is not nearly as faithful to the original as the film of \"Pride and Prejudice\" is, and one has to have read the novel to understand certain subplots that are barely touched upon in the movie. (I have not seen the 1985 BBC production of \"Pride and Prejudice,\" directed by Cyril Coke, or the movie \"Clueless.\") In \"Pride and Prejudice,\" an early work of Austen's (at least in its original form, completed in 1797 and titled \"First Impressions\"), little distance exists between the narrator and the viewpoint of the leading characters. In fact, the narrator's outlook is close to that of Elizabeth, who, except for the prejudice that prevents her from seeing the truth about the deceptively charming Wickham and the too-proud Darcy, is one of the most liberated women in all of literature, especially impressive considering the narrowness of the society she lives in. So \"Pride and Prejudice\" translates easily onto the screen. True, the initial hostility between Elizabeth and Darcy is more deeply and subtly developed in the book. And we understand more clearly the extent to which Mr. and Mrs. Bennet are alienated as husband and wife. But consider how the film improves on the book. Take, for instance, the introduction of Collins, the cousin of the Bennets who is to inherit their estate. In the book, Bennet reads aloud the letter to him from Collins detailing how he wishes to \"heal the breach\" that subsists \"between yourself and my late honored father\" and how he plans to visit the Bennets. The family then reacts to the letter, noting the pompousness of its style. A few paragraphs later, the text announces: \"Mr. Collins was punctual to his time, and was received with great politeness by the whole family.\" In the film, Bennet starts reading the letter, but Collins' voice"}, {"response": 355, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (00:41)", "body": "Amy, thanks for sharing ... but we already knew P&P2 was addicting and very difficult to improve upon. This just proves the point. (Although I don't necessarily agree with his opinions regarding other adaptations)."}, {"response": 356, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (00:45)", "body": "Sounds like Christopher needs to be sent our URL so he may continue to wallow with the rest of us! ;-)"}, {"response": 357, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (00:47)", "body": "Ann, thanks so much for e-mailing the N.Y. Times. I think it's great that they know their article is appreciated and that there is a bunch of us out in cyberspace who feel the same way their reviewer does! And thanks, Amy, for getting the article here. I wasn't sure how to do that. After all, that was my first link ever!! I'm learning, but ever so slowly!! BTW, I watched A&E tonight but I was disappointed--I really missed all the extra scenes I have on my tapes, and I hate being interrupted by commercials all the time! But it allowed me to get some work done and listen to it in the background!"}, {"response": 358, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (01:28)", "body": "Inko: BTW, I watched A&E tonight but I was disappointed--I really missed all the extra scenes I have on my tapes, and I hate being interrupted by commercials all the time! But it allowed me to get some work done and listen to it in the background! YES Inko! Me too! In fact I only watched the last 15 minutes...the proposal scene...ooh baby, lots of heat in that room! ;-)"}, {"response": 359, "author": "Anne3", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (18:54)", "body": "Susan: but we already knew P&P2 was addicting and very difficult to improve upon. This just proves the point. Yes, Susan, but what delighted me about the article was that a big cheese like Lehmann-Haupt, who as regular book critic for the New York Times holds a high position in literary circles, would admit in public to being as obsessed with a t.v. adaptation as an ordinary mortal! P&P2 conquers ALL!"}, {"response": 360, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (19:05)", "body": "Ann - I am making my way into this conversation late - like Mr. Woodhouse. I am glad they found your car - please let us know more as you get it back and back into working order. Thanks for the letter and the article."}, {"response": 361, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (21:13)", "body": "I have just been reading back, having not visited for a while. Adi, I wish I knew some way of comforting you. I hope as time moves on you will feel better. Amy (#345),not me, I think?????....I don't think I'm that scary!"}, {"response": 362, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (22:25)", "body": "I guess this topic got kicked out of Austen!"}, {"response": 363, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (07:36)", "body": "Ramblings, everyone! I have a terrible flu, am low on cash, and on a tight schedule. And yes, I almost forgot: I'm also turning 27 on Thursday! I'm beginning to feel old... On the other hand, it's Valentine on Friday, so: Happy Valentine! Thank you for letting this off my mind. I feel better already. I'll see you next week!"}, {"response": 364, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (15:08)", "body": "beginning to feel old??????????? old is just a state of mind....take it from someone who is about to celebrate the 21st anniversary of his 21st birthday........."}, {"response": 365, "author": "fuzz", "date": "Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (12:34)", "body": "I have just browsed down through the responses, all 364 of them and find them to be interesting. I thought this would be more of a political discussion than I have found, but am certainly glad for the camaradery."}, {"response": 366, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (22:50)", "body": "Welcome Don! Hope you keep checking back in with us."}, {"response": 367, "author": "fuzz", "date": "Mon, Feb 17, 1997 (18:42)", "body": "Thanks for the welcome. Where does peoples interest lie? I would be interested in people that have ideas that would lead to organizing the State Univ. of New York (SUNY) students into a voting block, or at least a political voice with a little muscle. I think it is a damn shame what the SUNY Board of Trustees are trying to do to the state system."}, {"response": 368, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 19, 1997 (04:22)", "body": "Open a topic in politics, the conference."}, {"response": 369, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Tue, Apr  8, 1997 (13:53)", "body": "You guys are very interesting but I'm not sure how I fit in since I'm going to go out on a limb here and actually say I'm not a huge Austen fan--I like what I've seen but I guess it didn't hit me the way it hit you all (so what am I doing here? long story). But you welcome even lukewarm fans, eh? You seem like a nice bunch folks, you won't wallop me, right?"}, {"response": 370, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr  8, 1997 (20:37)", "body": "You're cool. Come on out and play!"}, {"response": 371, "author": "mtlady", "date": "Thu, Apr 10, 1997 (16:16)", "body": "I wrote my intro. in another section. I heard today that there is a virus out there and it comes in your e mail and says from aol and states free aol on line and when you open it your entire system is wiped out including your antivirus programs. I figure it is for real because the alert was from washington and sent out to gov. fac. recieved in Atlanta at a gov. research fac. anyone heard about this?"}, {"response": 372, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 10, 1997 (21:36)", "body": "No, can you provide more details. Is it documented anywhere on the web or is there any anti-virus company that recognizes it. Have you contacted the folks at F-Prot or Norton to see if it's real. An email to them might clear things up."}, {"response": 373, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Apr 12, 1997 (15:23)", "body": "My,my, my... Terry, this has really grown since last I checked in. At the Denver Public Library today. Brandon is on a plane bound for Philly and I'm cold and lonely. The weather is bringing me down. The middle of April. 10 degrees. Six inches of melting snow. My flowers, the ones I planted three weeks ago, will never bloom. Sad. I'm checking out a Kabir poetry book, an Aaron Copland CD and several other random fiction stories -- sci-fi, romance, modern weird, you know... a little bit of everything to help me get through the week. Miss Austin, miss warm weather. Need a cup of caffeine and a chocolate macad mia cookie. Mountain biking and skating are on hold until the snow melts and the trails dry up. Thinking fondly of my former life..."}, {"response": 374, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 12, 1997 (18:27)", "body": "Wow, Miss Stace' checkin' in... glad you found some access. Are those Interent terminals very busy? Isn't it cool that libraries have net access now. Nearly all the Austin libraries have net access. I get Denver stations on my satellite dish so I got a little glimpse at your weather. I won't mention what kind of day we're having in Austin or that all the plants all over are in multi-colored profusion. Do you go snow skiing? That would seem a natural for you with your athleticism. Have you been in any more ironman competitions (run, swim, bike)? Well, enough of this indoor activity for now, time to get outdoors. Keep on checkin' in, Stacey!"}, {"response": 375, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Apr 14, 1997 (10:23)", "body": "Stacey stacey check back in! I'm a desperately unhappy Dallasite longing to relocate to Denver/Boulder. Please give me some words of encouragement while I wait out this interminable job-hunt. I miss Austin, too--partly why I'm heading for D/B! It's the closest I've found to that great Austin ambience. Guess I'll trade hellishly hot summers for frosty winters!"}, {"response": 376, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 1997 (13:57)", "body": "well, I'm bummed...one of the 2 main potential employers I'm looking at in Denver now lists \"no jobs available\" on their home page (they used to have half a dozen) and the other one still has the 2 unsuitable-for-me jobs they've been listing since Feb. Time to do more searching and sending."}, {"response": 377, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 1997 (22:18)", "body": "Did you get in touch with Stacey yet?"}, {"response": 378, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 1997 (22:42)", "body": "Have you thought about moving to Austin? Just a thought."}, {"response": 379, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, Apr 17, 1997 (14:18)", "body": "Like I said in one of my many intros, it would be a dream come true to return to Austin, the town of my heart. Unfortunately, the reality is that I am just too old to live in the squalor afforded by the measly salaries paid for my line of work in Austin...so I visit and dream..."}, {"response": 380, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, Apr 17, 1997 (14:33)", "body": "Plus I'm just too dainty these days for the blistering hellfire of those Austin summers (they made a man of me in my 20s, but now...I can't breathe!)...like Colo winters will be any less hellish!"}, {"response": 381, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 18, 1997 (00:37)", "body": "What work do you do again?"}, {"response": 382, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Apr 18, 1997 (09:07)", "body": "Molecular biology (got my MD, quit my residency, took up lab work). Sadly, the labs in Austin are easily staffed by peons fresh out of college willing to work for peanuts. There is Ambion, the lone industry. Perhaps I should give them a whirl, see if they'd be willing to pay me vast sums of money to enjoy the Austin ambience...."}, {"response": 383, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 19, 1997 (01:25)", "body": "Talk to my friend Bob Nagy who works at UT Botany when he gets over his throat surgery (about a week). He's mailto://bob@spring.com He may be able to help steer you in the right direction. I'll mention him to you. His home page is at http://www.spring.com/~kreblon There's hope!"}, {"response": 384, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Apr 21, 1997 (14:07)", "body": "You are very kind, terry. I will definitely look there! Sadly, UT is the lowest-paying, but what the heck, I'll see what's up. My ramble for today: I changed the tire on my car ALL BY MYSELF!!! last Saturday. I'm so proud of myself. Plenty of lacrimal lubrication to get the lugs off (fortunately this all took place in the privacy of my own driveway)!"}, {"response": 385, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (00:26)", "body": "The folks I know there love it. Despite the low pay. They like the relaxed atmosphere and benefits."}, {"response": 386, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (09:55)", "body": "As indeed I did during the 3 1/2 years I toiled in the Micro dept--great people and a fine ambience (ESB is a cool bldg)--much better than the tense unsmiling environs of UTSWMC Dallas! I'll see what the pay scale is for my now-advanced status (cf my previous inexperienced level), eh. I just need enough to pay the vet bills and the car repairman!"}, {"response": 387, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (10:24)", "body": "And apropos of nothing, let me just rant about my pet peeve, trafficwise: so you're tooling along virtually alone on the road (plenty of oncoming traffic)(but no one near you in your direction). Mr Doofus is exiting a parking lot, wants to join you on the road. He sees you 10 blocks away and waits. And waits. And waits. When you are right upon him, mere inches from his front bumper, he EASES his tuna boat out directly in front of you. Having used up every last ounce of driving courage on this bold m neuver, he proceeds to drive 5 mph for a block or two, then slams on his brakes without warning, apparently (why use a turn signal? HE knows where he's going) wishing to turn left past all the oncoming traffic. So the pair of you spend eternity waiting for a brek in traffic sufficiently large to accomodate a tuna boat driven by a moron whose used up all his courage. Not a soul behind you; he could have done all of this after you passed, but NOOOOO, he HAD to pull in front of you. Thank you and good ni ht. seriously, any other traffic annoyances out there? Or do I just need to get the idiot magnet removed from my front bumper?"}, {"response": 388, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (10:26)", "body": "sorry about the typos--combination of spleen-venting and weird response frame (I can't see half of what I type!)"}, {"response": 389, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (10:28)", "body": "I'm over in Austin rambling, go back to main menu, see there's a new response in porch, come over here, and it's ME! This is too fun, chatting with myself (are the voices in my head bothering you?)."}, {"response": 390, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (14:03)", "body": "And I return hours later,see another new response, and whaddaya know--ME AGAIN!"}, {"response": 391, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, Apr 24, 1997 (14:04)", "body": "AUBREY RULES THE WORLD!! I am the only responder! I am queen of everything! Ruler of mesopotamia! Goddess of The Spring!"}, {"response": 392, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 24, 1997 (17:09)", "body": "Well, you see, aubrey, the 'ramble' topic is actually replicated throughout several conferences and forms sort of a common thread through all these conferences. It started out in the austen conference and spread out from there (though it's no longer linked to austen after the major metamorphosis it went through. Anyone see the story on the WELL in the latest issue of Wired? Two folks I know pretty well, Cliff Figallo (fig@well.com) and John Coate (tex@well.com) are on the cover looking like guys out of the Xfiles. Also pictured is Stewart Brand. I was one of the original members of the WELL and much of the inspiration for the Spring comes from what Cliff and John did at the WELL, even the name was originally a play on the WELL. Anyway, check it out."}, {"response": 393, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Apr 25, 1997 (09:13)", "body": "I thought someone was typing in porch while I was typing in austin. Ddidn't realize the computer wouldn't be able to figure out it was me all the time. Will look for Wired and your pals. You're a funny man of the spring/well/geyser."}, {"response": 394, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 30, 1997 (10:10)", "body": "Once again, aubrey is the queen of all she surveys! I rock the Spring! I am so large and in charge! I think I will chat with myself a while...."}, {"response": 395, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 30, 1997 (18:10)", "body": "I've been offline here about 3 days, I'll be getting back on soon."}, {"response": 396, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, May  2, 1997 (10:26)", "body": "But I'm having sooo much fun! I NEVER get to be the one in charge! However, you are better at it than me...Fun in the lab: I was doing an experiment yesterday that required the use of some truly noxious organic chemicals; when I was pouring them out under the fume hood (like one of those kitchen range exhaust fans, only it's enclosed on 3 1/2 sides)(designed to suck away noxious vapors so they don't enter the lab) I couldn't quite reach the sink at the back of the hood, so without thinking I NATURALLY tuck my head under the hood to get better leverage...just a half a whiff of that stuff and I blacked out and hit the floor. Yikes-a-hootey! I'm still reeling from the shock a day later! Maybe I should consider a different profession? One that doesn't require frequent use of noxious and dangerous chemicals and gene-altering isotopes?"}, {"response": 397, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May  2, 1997 (14:21)", "body": "I wondered why you hadn't been posting for a couple of days! Wow! Take it easy there. Glad you back with the conscious folks. You're set up as a telnetter now! Let me know if you have any questions about how to use the telnet / yapp interface."}, {"response": 398, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (10:08)", "body": "Well, terry, I've tried every way I can but I still seem to have some sort of block vis a vis telnet. I can get to stroud (but only via typing it into netscape or clicking on the url you left me in tv conf--the url on the welcome page still doesn't work), but get lost therafter. There is a ws-ftp to click on at one point in the depths of Stroud, but my choice seems to be to download it, which (since this is NOT my own computer) I am a bit leery of. There is no Windows95 choice. On this computer (NOT i NetScape) there is a ws-ftp icon which I played with a little, but it couldn't find telnet://www.spring.com so I stopped (but now my password and name are on the ws-ftp page). Maybe I should try this from a personal personal computer (my brother is a computer jockey; I will enlist his help)."}, {"response": 399, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (10:10)", "body": "Where the hell did THAT come from???? All I did was type in the letters for that telnet thing and it went purple!!! Does that work for other sites? http://www.vabeach.com for example?"}, {"response": 400, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (10:31)", "body": "Help terry I'm scaring myself--every time I type in a url it lights up. Did I sniff too much pet ether last week or is this the glorious result of being a telnet gal? Yikes! Stop me before I hurt someone! So that vabeach url is from my e-pal who wants so desperately to join the Spring but cannot get on. I don't know what the site is, it was just the first thing I tried! AND IT WORKS! This is toooo spooooooky for me. How does the computer know where to go if I didn't tell it?"}, {"response": 401, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (10:58)", "body": "Terry I am serious, this is WAY too spooky: I sent an e-mail (via NetScape)to my bros requesting their assistance in this telnet thing, and when I typed in the spring telnet url thingie, IT LIT UP! WHY IS THIS SUDDENLY HAPPENING?? As you will note from my previous comments, I never used to be able to do lit-up urls--when I suggested websites to my e-pals, they never lit up before. How does the computer know I have a telnet account when I'm not logged on that way? IS BIG BROTHER WATCHING ME? I'm getti g paranoid!"}, {"response": 402, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (13:38)", "body": "I just left a lot of responses in ramble via telnet (with the kind assistance of my e-pal and my brother) and they didn't show up here. What's up?"}, {"response": 403, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (14:35)", "body": "And now my responses are gone from telnet, although that last response (left via the website) showed up on telnet. I am deeply confused. Plus, where are the messages left for me in telnet by my e-pal pungo? Terry, take my hand and leadeth me beside the spring waters, for I knoweth not what is happen."}, {"response": 404, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (14:38)", "body": "what happens to the stuff I write here? It vanished! Hmmmm, I went to the web spring and typed that above message in, and when I came back, this last telnet response was still here... I think I need someone else to chat with for this to work? \".\""}, {"response": 405, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (14:41)", "body": "Terry you'd better get here quick. My computer is now sassing back at me. I was roaming around telnet in ramble and it informed me \"a message entered before yours at 403\"--I don't know what it's talking about, but that's pretty spooky. Truly bizarre, tho--I asked it to take me to tv conf, but before it would it asked \"do you feel more enlightened now?\" WHO IS TALKING TO ME???? Are the voices in my head bothering anyone else?"}, {"response": 406, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (14:43)", "body": "response 404 is me in telnet. \".\" is me trying to leave! What happened to my first set of responses a few hours ago? Why did that STUPID response show up? Where did my name come into all of this?"}, {"response": 407, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May  5, 1997 (23:17)", "body": "Keep after it aubrey, you'll catch on. This telnet stuff really does work!"}, {"response": 408, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Tue, May  6, 1997 (08:49)", "body": "It may work for you. It just scares me."}, {"response": 409, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May  6, 1997 (10:15)", "body": "It's not all that scary. What editor are you using? vi or pico?"}, {"response": 410, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May  7, 1997 (09:13)", "body": "ummmm...I am my own editor? Let me ask the computer god who runs the show around here. He's nice and knows everything about our set-up (he should, since he set it up!)."}, {"response": 411, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May  7, 1997 (09:23)", "body": "I couldn't find anywhere in tv conf to put this, so I'll just yammer away here: last night I got to watch a tv pilot. It was not so good but it was fun getting to watch something that may or may not be a show. The only person I recognized was Cynthia Geary from NExp (so maybe this should go there). It was a lame sitcom about a totally uninteresting couple of 20somethings getting married and all the trouble with involving their families in the wedding (his: NY Jew, hers: Southern crackers; hi-jinks ens e!). You think I could parlay this into a career? I can critique potential shows from the comfort of my own living room! Or not."}, {"response": 412, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May  7, 1997 (10:13)", "body": "You might want to hold on to your day job till you explore this a little more."}, {"response": 413, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May  7, 1997 (14:02)", "body": "It's so exciting to have you here during the day, terry! I like! So what, you think they won't pay me vast sums of money to sit around bitching about others' lack of creativity? Am I doomed to knocking myself out with organic solvents for the rest of my natural life? Breathe in, breathe out...."}, {"response": 414, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May  7, 1997 (19:33)", "body": "Are you and telnet getting along now?"}, {"response": 415, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May  8, 1997 (13:11)", "body": "Well, not exactly. I've asked my brother the computer chimp to help me out (so don't be surprised if you read some really dull test messages here--I gave him my logon to work it out for me) so we'll see what he comes up with. My friend pungo has given up completely on The Spring (he e-mailed you for help and didn't hear back and since I can't find him on telnet he's going to find somewhere else for us to play--but I'll still be here!). I prefer the web-nased bbs rather than telnet. Maybe I'm a sucker or cool graphics (also this computer is pretty fast) or whatnot. What again are the advantages to telnet?"}, {"response": 416, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May  8, 1997 (13:11)", "body": "That's \"web Based\" bbs!"}, {"response": 417, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May  8, 1997 (13:12)", "body": "Oh yeah the tv pilot people never called me for my opinion--what have you been telling them about me, terry?"}, {"response": 418, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, May  9, 1997 (11:06)", "body": "The tv pilot people called last night; apparently the wrong show got beamed out so they didn't even interview me. My shiny new career vanishes like a candle in the wind...."}, {"response": 419, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May  9, 1997 (15:00)", "body": "like the old Elton John song."}, {"response": 420, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May 14, 1997 (15:10)", "body": "how time does fly! I can't believe it's been so long since I've logged in. Boss-man really has me totin barges and liftin bales. Plus I've walked out on him a couple of times in the middle of the workin day when he starts smokin in the lab. Anyway, I got a phone interview, out of the blue, from Amgen, a company I applied to back in Feb--thought they'd forgotten all about me but apparently not. I am hopelessly unqualified for the job in question, plus it's in 1K Oaks CA where I'll never live, but who ares! I'll take the interview process as far as she'll go. I need the practice. Hey, also my bro in Denver has mentioned an editing job (for medical journals) so maybe I'll get something after all!"}, {"response": 421, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 14, 1997 (17:17)", "body": "I just got offered a webmaster job in Calif and a system network job for Compaq, but I got an even better job offer inAustin. So I'll stick around."}, {"response": 422, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May 15, 1997 (09:06)", "body": "But even if it weren't a better offer--you'd stay in Austin, right? Calif can't compare! Do you have to move to do a computer job? Can't they just link you up or something and let you stay in that fair city?"}, {"response": 423, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 15, 1997 (09:15)", "body": "I would probably stay. If it were Northern Calif I'd be more tempted. I had a good dinner last night with Doug Larue and he has some ideas for pumping up the Spring and Capcity. Doug is a very talented designer and editor of Capitol City Arts and Entertainment magazine. We're working on ways to build traffic and to attract more dedicated websites."}, {"response": 424, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, May 16, 1997 (14:36)", "body": "I can't wait! I'm all aglow! More people would be grrrreat. I've been spending time on another website (wbs.net) and while it's fun having \"live\" conversations, the people and topics are lame. More people here would be ideal. Let me know if I (useless as I am) can help--I'm still doing word-of-mouth promotions to everyone I meet who uses computers."}, {"response": 425, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 16, 1997 (18:59)", "body": "Anything you can do would help. I'm working 12 hours a day now so it's harder to promote this thing."}, {"response": 426, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 19, 1997 (09:26)", "body": "Terry you must relax! Austin is for slackers! Please tell me you will not keep up this pace. Breathe in, breathe out..."}, {"response": 427, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 19, 1997 (13:54)", "body": "I think I pumped it up a bit here on Sunday night. Take a look around and you'lll see some action, Aubrey."}, {"response": 428, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Sun, May 25, 1997 (10:20)", "body": "Where have I been??? I'm back now!"}, {"response": 429, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Sun, May 25, 1997 (10:28)", "body": "hahahaha and I'm STILL fooling myself with this ramble-in-many-conferences gag! every time I put in a response I go and check the other conference!! I have a memory span the size of a GNAT!!!"}, {"response": 430, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 25, 1997 (10:43)", "body": "I'm heading off to TJ Cellery's big party today, he's one of our posters in the sports conference and he's got bands, darts, and all kinds of activities going on out in Lake Bastrop today and tomorrow. It's already been going on for two days."}, {"response": 431, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Tue, May 27, 1997 (09:26)", "body": "Hope you had fun terry. I linked the spring from my \"home page\" (such as it is) on wbs.net--hope that's ok!"}, {"response": 432, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 27, 1997 (10:31)", "body": "It's more than ok."}, {"response": 433, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 27, 1997 (22:38)", "body": "Hiya! Once again found myself within 3 yards of a computer and had to say hello! Miss you. Miss Austin. Should be back in late June early July. We'll do the Dog&Duck/veggie burger thing! Spring has finally reached Denver! Yea! Camping, biking and beer guzzling for Memorial Day. JuneFest this weekend -- more beer, camping and biking! Hope all is well with EVERYONE -- too many new people, I feel lost Paul! Smiles and hugs!"}, {"response": 434, "author": "ginger", "date": "Wed, May 28, 1997 (01:50)", "body": "We had a great party out in Bastrop at TJ Cellery's digs, he had live bands, horseshoes, good friends, great food and four frolicking days. He's been doing this for 25 years now (all around the country). Too bad about the Avs' Stacey Leigh!"}, {"response": 435, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 28, 1997 (08:56)", "body": "Stacey, did you hear about Don moving out to Denver?"}, {"response": 436, "author": "msegal", "date": "Thu, May 29, 1997 (11:56)", "body": "Hi. Is there anyone interested in the Canadian federal election?"}, {"response": 437, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 29, 1997 (14:50)", "body": "I hadn't been giving it much thought. Fill us in ok?"}, {"response": 438, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Jun  2, 1997 (09:33)", "body": "There's a Canadienne in my wbs chat group who want the current guy booted out in favor of the contender who she says \"won't let the Frenchies walk all over us\"--I'll ask for more details, eh?"}, {"response": 439, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun  2, 1997 (12:19)", "body": "How about those Bulls las night?"}, {"response": 440, "author": "ginger", "date": "Sun, Jun  8, 1997 (11:00)", "body": "They're having a quiet war about that, Aubrey?"}, {"response": 441, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (08:58)", "body": "sadly ginger that's all I know--and terry see my query in porch intros; I am confused (so what's new!) by these new choices we have! \"preserve as unread\"??? why???"}, {"response": 442, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (12:42)", "body": "Why? Because Dave Thaler just upgraded our interface. We'll be putting out some upgrade notes soon. Aubrey, so good you're back!"}, {"response": 443, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 20, 1997 (09:06)", "body": "Thank you terry! glad to be here! so sad that boss-man keeps me away with WORK! So what is with thie COOKIE business????? why do yuo keep asking me to send them? I make a really great oatmeal chocolate chip (to die for!)--wouild a dozen satisfy you? Seriously terry this is getting ridiculous! I can hardly get on the spring for having to machete through a thicket of computer messages about COOKIES--help meeeeee!"}, {"response": 444, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 20, 1997 (18:33)", "body": "Your broswer lets you turn off cookie notification. What browser are you using aub' ?"}, {"response": 445, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (09:10)", "body": "I am using netscape...everyone is telling me cookies are the worst thing in the world but you seem relatively calm about this...so I will take heart and attempt to figure out how to turn them off. if I can't can you help!"}, {"response": 446, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (09:30)", "body": "Sure, be glad to help. What version of Netscape do you have?"}, {"response": 447, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (13:49)", "body": "yu got me there pal, I just click it on hee hee hee...let me have a look-see..."}, {"response": 448, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (13:54)", "body": "the icon says 3.01 but what actually comes up is 3.0...I deselected cookie under the preferences \"show me a warning before accepting a...\" and I sure hope that's ok--I don't know why someone would select that--terry? do I need to know when the computer has accepted a cookie?"}, {"response": 449, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (13:55)", "body": "Not really. It's mildly interesting. Not something to work up a frenzy over."}, {"response": 450, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (14:00)", "body": "hey!! now you actually being here IS soething to work up into a frenzy over!"}, {"response": 451, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (14:01)", "body": "And I am frothing! I have never had anyone here when I am here! so I want to hear more about the electronic minds *peering about* are they here right now?"}, {"response": 452, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (14:45)", "body": "They are, join minds."}, {"response": 454, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (12:12)", "body": "Sure pop it in the wave."}, {"response": 455, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (19:06)", "body": "and what, praytell, are we rambling about?!?"}, {"response": 456, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (19:14)", "body": "jesus! I had to go through 2 friggin years worth o crap to get here! And what do I find but the same damn words I posted somewhere else. This is un nerving!"}, {"response": 457, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (19:18)", "body": "lol!"}, {"response": 459, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (11:04)", "body": "Ramble is a mega linked topic. So if you ramble here, you ramble everywhere. Just so you know."}, {"response": 460, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (13:16)", "body": "That's an intimidating thought. I'm afraid to ramble now."}, {"response": 462, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (14:44)", "body": "Sorry, I seldom think I have anything worthwhile to say, much less to have it echoed throughout the spring."}, {"response": 464, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Jan 17, 1998 (16:52)", "body": "Ahh, but I'm not a deep thinker like you. An eloquent stream of consciousness always rates higher than inane chit-chat."}, {"response": 466, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jan 18, 1998 (22:39)", "body": "Well, consider yourself eloquent."}, {"response": 467, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jan 19, 1998 (18:11)", "body": "\"I was born a ramblin' Maaaaannnnnnnnnn. Trying to make a livin' an doin' the best I caaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn.\""}, {"response": 468, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Mon, Jan 19, 1998 (18:59)", "body": "roflmao! (that's a pretty excellent dickie betts, especially from someone subject to recurring cat dreams...)"}, {"response": 469, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (19:21)", "body": "*grin* gotta be too much herb tea!"}, {"response": 470, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (19:41)", "body": "Hey, ramblin' girl, speaking of tea, just got a shipment of chai in today. A free sample from the Pacific Chai company. Who says I never got anything free off the net?"}, {"response": 471, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (19:45)", "body": "where? Good stuff? I'm a big Celestial Seasonings fan..."}, {"response": 472, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (19:46)", "body": "JUST POSTED THIS IN MOVIES.... NOW I HAVE TO READ IT AGAIN IN FITNESS!!!!!! AAAccccccccccccccccccck! Paul, what are you doing to me?!?!"}, {"response": 473, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (19:49)", "body": "It's a conspiracy Stace, remember when I told you a few days ago that when you post here you post everywhere (thought I was kidding, eh?). Anyway, I got the free Chai tea from Pacific Chai which I found by searching for the word \"chai tea\" on yahoo's site. http://www.PacificChai.com Good stuff! Spicy, weet, rich, and *instant* chai tea."}, {"response": 474, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (20:56)", "body": "Stacey, what are your favorite CS teas? I love the mandarin orange spice, and I use their green blend for iced tea."}, {"response": 475, "author": "nike", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (12:58)", "body": "Well as the thread in this group goes more into tea, all I can add to that is the fact that I have never drunken so much tea in my life like I do now living in Londo for half a year, you really drink it at nearly anytime in the day it's incredible... Just to continue rambling (I hope nobody minds) I am just not willing to spend hours over what I should be doing, preparing for my finals here in the South Bank University in London. It has been quite a semester here, and I must say to anybody who has the chanceto join such an exchangeprogramme, do it (like the Nike ad tell's you to) It's an expirience I don't want to have missed, and I already have spend a moth in an american Junior high school, a couple of years back (yeah yeah, those were the days) this thred was called Ramble? wasn't it ? ;-) I just could go on for hours, telling you about the freezing weather we had here after we had the warmest day in January two weeks ago, since the recordings began some hundred years ago, the weather is really unpredictable... Somehow I could do with some real proper sunshine, staying here I have acquired one of the most ugly teints I have ever had, the last time I had such a pale skin was after learning for my last exams in Germany for nearly a whole month and not seeing the outside much... Well I guess all you can do about that is either eat a wagonload of carrots (betacarotin) or lie under a artificial sun for some time, which I actually don't have, or I should better say shouldn't have ;-) Rambling on I could now go into the fact that I spent nearly 2 hours downloading the newest Mac OS -8 upgrade to 8.1 Apart from that I found a cool webpage explaining about Java and even offering a whole online store for free (all the scripts and everything that is needed to make such an to run an online store) so if everything else fails (my studies here as a building engeneer) I will open an online store selling ... well I don't know... ah! I got it I'll sell semelly socks ;-) Well what I would really like to do at the moment is continue writing my webpage, but I can't continue, because I couldn't setup my harddisk here, because my friend wanted back his casing for his harddisk ... well just in case you would like to have a little look around, or find out a bit about the thesis that I want to write about, check out my page at http://www.hardlink.com/~nike I would like some feedback... Well I guess I have rambled enough ;-) I should get back to my studies (yuck) See ya around enjoy the tea (I usually just have the normal PG Tips Black tea here) Bye Nike"}, {"response": 476, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (19:59)", "body": "Just in, the inside scoop on Clinton's woes from the Drudge report in politics."}, {"response": 477, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (21:23)", "body": "Read it in the politics conference. Either it's over for Clinton or Starr. One of them will bite the dust soon."}, {"response": 478, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (21:28)", "body": "Nike, now thar's a ramblin' man! Gosh, it's great you're back with us. Buddy, ya know, got a gig with Microsoft up in big D. Funny, Buddy always despised Microsoft now he's getting those BillyBucks. I wish him well. It's a great break for him and he can help a lot of other visually handicapped folks break some barriers."}, {"response": 479, "author": "nike", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (11:21)", "body": "Yeah! don't get me rambin, when I actually have some work to do ;-) (at least not, when the work I do have to do is somethin I hate doin, like revising all the stuff I learned the last half of the yaer... Is Buddy still around here in the Spring? Well I guess it's often like that, when money is involved... I also would work for Microsoft, but in my heart I still would prefer to work with a Mac,. Anyway, a really great break for him, I must say. Why is it in big D? I thought they were up in big R? Well I hope to read lot's astuff in the various topics, only at the moment I don't have that much time, but I will broowse a bit. See ya around See ya around Nike"}, {"response": 480, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (11:43)", "body": "Hey, anyone want a free frisbee? http://cgi.pathfinder.com/cgi-bin/gdml2x/game/pathfinder/apc_survey2 will get you one if you answer their plastics survey."}, {"response": 481, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (11:44)", "body": "Big, or Dallas, is a tech support location. That's what he's doing, supporting handicapped users. And getting all the free food he can eat!"}, {"response": 482, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (13:15)", "body": "Don't forget to clue him in on the frisbee!"}, {"response": 483, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (17:45)", "body": "Autumn... teas (the faves) Tension Tamer Echinecea Ginseng Bengal \u001b[A\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[B\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D SpiceSleepyTime Emporer's Choice"}, {"response": 484, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (17:54)", "body": "I haven't heard of a couple of those...maybe they're marketed differently in other regions? Like out here we have Edy's ice cream, but on the West Coast it is Dreyer's. And in Europe, Arizona iced tea is called Colorado iced tea (sounds more exotic \"Old West\" or something, I guess!)"}, {"response": 485, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (18:05)", "body": "My super favorite in the Bengal Spice... clovey cinnamony yummy! Shame you don't have them. What are your favorites?"}, {"response": 486, "author": "russell", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (17:53)", "body": "New this month in Culture Wars magazine online: http://www.culturewars.com The Kingpins of Drug Legalization: Investigating Their Role in the Culture War by Michael J. Ard Who are the voices crying out for the de-criminalization of narcotics, and what are their real objectives? The answers may surprise you."}, {"response": 487, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:03)", "body": "My favorite is the mandarin orange spice, but if the Bengal is as good as it sounds, I'll have to look for it. Only I hope it is not too cinnamon-y, because I can't stand their apple cinnamon spice flavor. Or anything with mint."}, {"response": 488, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:18)", "body": "Thanks Russell, that culturewares site was mentioned in our web conference as a cool website not too long ago. On a less frenetic front, and back to teatalk, I picked up some more chai tea tonight and and hibiscus blend. My two current favorites."}, {"response": 489, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:23)", "body": "Ooh, hibiscus is yummy!"}, {"response": 490, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:33)", "body": "Hey I just saw that culturewars site, gonna read it now. Oh, Terry, I didnt know you were a Tea Coinsure' You continue to surprise me!"}, {"response": 491, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:36)", "body": "Oh, he's a regular renaissance man....."}, {"response": 492, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:40)", "body": "Gosh, hey honest, I haven't been making under the table payments to Autumn. That hibiscus is great brewed with fresh grated ginger and sweetened with white grape juice."}, {"response": 493, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:42)", "body": "Wow--it would never occur to me to doctor tea with anything but honey or fructose. Old family recipe?"}, {"response": 494, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:48)", "body": "I only came into this conference because I saw that was where the current action was. But dagnabbit if I wasn't exposed and affected by the culture oozing from the electrons of Terry's universe. We are headed to Mexico City tomarrow to go an a ancient indian adventure, talk about culture! I will be exposed to a great deal of over the next week or so. We are going to one of the valcanoes and as many pyramids as we can find, hopfully this will become celestinial. Speaking of culture, I hear there is a very cool (Spring Like) site called http://www.boat.org check it out!"}, {"response": 495, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (21:54)", "body": "Sounds like an incredible outing, Doug!"}, {"response": 496, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan 28, 1998 (19:31)", "body": "Hot pepper cheese craving... anyone want to join me?"}, {"response": 498, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 29, 1998 (10:07)", "body": "you can try... but i won't fit. maybe you sould put the cheese and the Ritz on me!"}, {"response": 501, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (04:06)", "body": "is that a sigh of relief or of dispair? (or were you just breathing heavy and got confused?)"}, {"response": 502, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (04:06)", "body": "drinking my tea, having finished my bagel. Fairly happy today Well, certainly not sad And I read a post from many moons ago that mentioned boyce I associate the name, obviously with the spring, but also with the summer months in Austin. And, all of a sudden, I became really homesick for Austin. My old apartment off of Riverside, runs around Town Lake, late night skates around town stopping in assorted coffee houses to play cards... The smell of the air with humidity. The hot sticky feel after exercising in humidity and sunshine. Riding through the Greenbelt, reading off Mt. Bonnell... To no one in particular... Do you ever feel happy and sad at the same time? Odd how this came up so suddenly."}, {"response": 503, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (04:06)", "body": "I guess that's me. Yeah, I feel happy and sad simultaneously. Well I got a contract on a house in Austin today. I now have 10 days to change my mind."}, {"response": 504, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (04:06)", "body": "(all the time)"}, {"response": 505, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (16:22)", "body": "Wow, a house--that's a big commitment, Terry. Sometimes I think ours is a full-time job. Stacey, that happy/sad feeling; sometimes. More commonly I feel a persistent undercurrent of restlessness laying in wait beneath the surface."}, {"response": 507, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (18:28)", "body": "congrats on the house Paul! and as far as the brief trip into emotional uncertainty... there's nothing like a class full of rowdy boys to bring you back to the here and now! *smile* and nothing like a beer (or four) to make the day a mere memory!"}, {"response": 508, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (18:39)", "body": "whew! (spamified) found ramble in another conference... that I'd never checked before two plus years of... rambling. (worn out)"}, {"response": 509, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (20:53)", "body": "ramble rambles all over about 7 or 8 conferences. Ramble really rambles."}, {"response": 511, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb  4, 1998 (16:19)", "body": "afternoon..."}, {"response": 513, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb  5, 1998 (18:16)", "body": "fine. busy. frustrated with certain things but nothing catastrophic... you know how it is when you begin to vent... a trickle, a stream, a flood..."}, {"response": 515, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb  6, 1998 (13:55)", "body": "sure you wanna talk??? *wink*"}, {"response": 517, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb  6, 1998 (18:26)", "body": "what should I sit on?!?! *grin*"}, {"response": 519, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Feb  8, 1998 (22:29)", "body": "okay. In an effort to expand our cultural horizons, let's each choose a different language to speak to each other in. (Kind of the way men and women relate anyway) You may speak whatever you like I choose body language!"}]}, {"num": 5, "subject": "hotels with fitness centers", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (23:23)", "body": "Austin's Q Club is within short walking distance of the Renaissance Hotel, which has it's own fitness center and pool. The Q is Austin's best facility hands down. It's the ultimate club. I should be working out there now!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 18, 1998 (18:57)", "body": "stayed at the Marriott in Savannah... decent fitness center. I prefer the ones with hot tubs and saunas!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, May 21, 1998 (23:55)", "body": "My kids really like the treadmill... fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 6, "subject": "running", "response_count": 109, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 23, 1997 (04:34)", "body": "I've heard that uphill running combined with walking downhill is easier on the bones, joints and tendons than constant running on, say a track. This way you really exercise the heart and lungs while being easier on the joints. Any comments on a good running program?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 23, 1997 (14:22)", "body": "get out there and do it!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 24, 1997 (07:11)", "body": "I am! I cut a trail through the woods and get out there in the evenings. If I don't run every night, the spider webs get out of hand."}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 24, 1997 (12:22)", "body": "Great song by Joan Osbourne -- \"Spider Webs\""}, {"response": 5, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Oct 21, 1997 (11:43)", "body": "Went for a jog yesterday with a new friend of mine. Around a track. I got dizzy!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (01:46)", "body": "Are you on a regular program at a track now? Are you doing timed laps?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (13:57)", "body": "I hate running on a track, it is almost as bad as running on a treadmill. I want to GO somewhere. So, no. No regular program. I'm just jogging with this girl because she needs encouragement. Her goal is to run a 10K. So I signed us up for the Turkey Trot -- a 5K as something to help her work up to."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (19:13)", "body": "Keep us posted on her/your progress and times, I'll be interested in hearing how you progress. What's your workout schedule?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (10:17)", "body": "Run when we have time and it's not snowing. *smile*"}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (10:48)", "body": "I went for a run Friday night at the beginning of the blizzard, before I knew what was really going on. Never run in so much snow before. Must have dumped 2 inches in the short time I was out there."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (11:39)", "body": "Do we have to come dig you out? How will we find you?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (13:15)", "body": "I'm wearing bright magenta sweatpants, an earwrap and a baseball cap (snowvisor)."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (13:37)", "body": "I think we'll be able to spot you."}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 29, 1997 (11:20)", "body": "Not running lately. I really hurt my back in a semi-comical but a bit frightening accident on Saturday night... snow related."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 29, 1997 (18:36)", "body": "I hope it gets better soon."}, {"response": 16, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 30, 1997 (09:39)", "body": "it's getting there (to the better place)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (12:13)", "body": "When the temps peeked above 20, I went running this weekend. Ice becomes quite the road hazard."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (14:39)", "body": "What kind of shoes did you use?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (12:43)", "body": "Running shoes. When I came to ice patches, I ran on the snow instead but some places were pretty slickery!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (16:02)", "body": "Do we have a topic on running shoes?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (14:03)", "body": "From the response to the running conference, I don't think we need one!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (14:25)", "body": "Ok then let's talk about it here. What running shoes do you favor Stacey? Are you running with Nikes, Reeboks??? How important are good shoes in running?"}, {"response": 23, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (14:32)", "body": "I favor Nikes. Reeboks are more comfy for short term IMO, but Nikes hold up better and provide more support for extra long runs (ie, the marathons!) Shoes are vital for me. As soon as my shoes begin to lose support, I begin to get neck and back pains."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (16:14)", "body": "You have a bit of a narrow foot don't you?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (12:06)", "body": "Narrow heel, wide ball actually. Nike has improved it's footwear for people like me though, ten years ago, I could not wear NIke's without pain!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (14:31)", "body": "I have a *wide* foot and it's very hard to find Nikes that fit. And I don't like their current styles. I guess I can't \"be like Mike\"."}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (14:57)", "body": "There female running shoes and x-trainers tend to be less ostentatious that the male counterparts. Like peacocks, no?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (15:23)", "body": "Like Mike."}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 26, 1997 (11:27)", "body": "Tomorrow I'm doing the Turkey Trot. Come sonw or sleet... Pray for snow, it's softer when it bonks you in the head."}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 26, 1997 (11:28)", "body": "OOps! That was intended to read Snow or sleet. Although sonw sounds interesting too."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 26, 1997 (13:07)", "body": "I went on a run/jog again last night in the hills west of town."}, {"response": 32, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (19:58)", "body": "A run along Black's Beach!! Heavenly."}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec  9, 1997 (00:34)", "body": "It's pretty late, but I may at least get a walk/run in tonight. I'm out by Dripping Springs."}, {"response": 34, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (20:19)", "body": "Nice that you live in a safe enough area for such late night jaunts."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 16, 1997 (00:11)", "body": "I feel pretty safe just about anywhere. Of course, I'm a big guy too."}, {"response": 36, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (20:18)", "body": "and mean looking!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (01:05)", "body": "Right, totally fearsome."}, {"response": 38, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (11:16)", "body": "*smile*"}, {"response": 39, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (12:04)", "body": "Hi. What only 2 runners out there? And no action since Dec? Now... has it really been that cold in Austin? Hi again Terry.... ok, where do i start? Since i last visited '96, I have run the Philadelphia Distance Run (a half marathon), been injured several times (of course) and am now training for the Marine Corp Marathon to be held in Oct '98. Am trying to run abt 18 mi per week at the moment, but lacking motivation as my training partner has been out of town more than in town. Looking forward t forging some running partnerships here..."}, {"response": 40, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (16:40)", "body": "it's been really that cold in Colorado... mostly indoor track stuff. certainly nothing exciting enough to post."}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (20:15)", "body": "Stacey's being modest most likely, I've heard about her exploits on the track, in the water and on wheels (bicycle wheels, that is)."}, {"response": 42, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (00:09)", "body": "Yeah... Colorado's been getting a bit of the white stuff. Not so here...mostly just cold and wet. Am heading for Taos next week for a skiing vacation. I don't ski... yet. Should be really interesting"}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (12:19)", "body": "Wow, a first time skier! Are you taking lessons or just jumping in?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (14:12)", "body": "Is there a difference? In my case, either should prove to be, er, eventful. I tend to avoid sports involving weapon-like props. But, just in case I just don't get it, I'm taking my camera equipment with me so I can at least get some pretty shots. Oh, yes I'll be taking lessons. I figure I will become rather intimate with the Bunny Hill."}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (09:46)", "body": "What's your training routine for running these days, Gena?"}, {"response": 46, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (10:24)", "body": "The training 'goal' is as follows: Mon - weights, Tues - 4/5 mi, Weds - weights, Thur - 4-5 mi, Fri 4-5 mi, Sat - weights, Sun - 6 mi . In another month, Thurs will become a 'speed' day at the track and Fri will become a rest day. At the same time the Sun run will lengthen making Mon a rest day. I may continue to do weight training on 'rest' days depending on my (or my running partner's) fatigue level. In addition to the noted milage, I use a heart monitor in order to maintain an easy/hard regimen, alternating between running at a 70% f max heart rate with 80% days... speed days being at around 90-95% output. Any questions? Or are you already sorry you asked..."}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (11:14)", "body": "No, I'm glad I asked. Why 4/5th of a mile and not a full mile, and why 6 miles on Sundays? What's the rational behind the routine?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (20:22)", "body": "It's 4 to 5 mi, silly bunny! Not 4/5th's.... you are a funny feller, though 4/5th of a mile sounds pretty attractive when its 20 degrees outside. Giggle, giggle, snicker... 4/5th's. I should be more consistant with my dividers. Sorry."}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (20:35)", "body": "Whew! I was wondering about that. In high school, I ran a great quarter mile (one of the best in the State), but fell off quickly in the distances above (1/2 mile and mile) and below (100 yard dash) that. What is your best distance for time, Gena? I was never much at distance running. The quarter mile is almost a sprint."}, {"response": 50, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (23:00)", "body": "Well, I'm not a 'real' runner, i.e. I never ran track as a sport in school. I was a field hockey goalie, a softball catcher, a rugby wing forward, and basketball's shortest center. I didn't start running as a sport until '86 at the tender age of 30. Twelve years later here are my PR's; 100 meter=16.5, 200 meter=34.58, 5K road=23:54, 4 mi road=32:36, 5 mi road=42:36, 10K road=52:56 and finally 1/2 marathon = 2:11:05 . And there you have it. I'm now 42 and still have hopes of bettering all of my times. All the hype says women get faster between 35 and 45. I'm trying..."}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (01:10)", "body": "I wonder why they peak at this age, and I assume they peak later than men?"}, {"response": 52, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (07:45)", "body": "Yes... men peak (with most physical activity) between 18 and 25 (I think that's right...somebody correct me if not). After that any improvement is training and genetics. Women peak later and it seems childbirth enhances some womens results. That's out for me of course. I'm in the danger zone agewise and if you recall, my lifestyle isn't condusive to procreation. I'm a recreational runner at any rate... not in the 'elite' categorie."}, {"response": 53, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (09:38)", "body": "Wow. I ran cross-country in high school, and while I was pretty good I couldn't figure out why I should be happy running all over Manhattan in the rain and cold, so I went deeper into Bball & martial art. I'll be 42 this month. Very commendable Gena!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (10:44)", "body": "thank goodness for Colorado and all its sun. Running in Austin was a pleasure (one that I may not have realized at the time) because it was always so temperate but despite the Colorado occasional cold and snow (!!!) the sun makes everything fine! Snowshoeing would be the upcoming weekend's attraction. Kinda like running with clown shoes on. NOt quite as seamless as some make it look! Considering coming down to Austin next year to do the Austin Motorola again... I'll let everyone know!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (10:54)", "body": "Great news, we'll have to party some more!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (18:07)", "body": "just have the beer cold at the finish line!! (with a banana and a glass of OJ!)"}, {"response": 57, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (18:08)", "body": "Hey! Good to see folks back in here. I thought it was gonna be just me and Terry. Motivation, motivation... what do you think of an on-line running club? Terry...it could remain here or be it's on 'topic'. Ideas????"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (18:47)", "body": "Whichever you like, you're welcome to open as many new topics in as many conferences as you like! Sounds great as a separate topic to me."}, {"response": 59, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (19:01)", "body": "Great! I'll start a new topic... The Spring's International Run Club (visions of world wide membership)."}, {"response": 60, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (15:06)", "body": "Well, tomorrow morning I board a plane to TAOS N MEXICO for a week of fine mexican food, margaritas, and dangerous liasons with the Bunny Hill, a pair of skis and some really cold stuff called snow. I don't know how much running I'll do since the altitude is gonna kill me for the first couple of days (massachusetts is sea level... maybe lower), but I've packed my gear just in case. I'll have access to a laptop, so will probably check in. Everybody take care... see ya on da slopes!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (18:19)", "body": "actually gena, the altitude won't really even start to affect you for a couple of days (except when you're drinking!) if you remember to drink plenty of water, you can resume your exercise regimen pretty much to the letter. But in a few days, your body will start to miss the extra oxygen and try and make up for it's lack of hemoglobin... then you MAY feel like shit. Just remember... PLENTY of water. Two glasses to every magarita -- MINIMUM!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar  6, 1998 (02:39)", "body": "Catch ya on the slopes!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:00)", "body": "I'm baaa-aack!! Had altitude headaches for three days, but survived. Did not run... got all the exercise a girl could have wanted (or not) picking myself up everytime I tried to stand up on a pair of ski's... and on a snowboard. Dislocated my thumb, briused my shins, strained my achilles and bruised parts of my body I never examined personally before... all in all, it was a blast! And the food...oh god!!! Today I ran 3 easy miles here at home. Felt pretty good. Tomorrow it's back to work and back to a normal workout schedule."}, {"response": 64, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:03)", "body": "Wow, you got banged up and had some great food! What was the skiiing like?"}, {"response": 65, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:11)", "body": "Well according to the 'real' skiers in our bunch, the skiing was phenomenal. We got 8 inches of fresh powder the night before their first ski runs, and Taos has plenty of black diamond runs to keep those girls happy. I stayed in the beginner area, challenge enough! The entire week was clear and in the low 40's during the day... I got a sunburned face."}, {"response": 66, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (12:43)", "body": "glad it was a good experience!"}, {"response": 67, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 18, 1998 (18:58)", "body": "ran the 1st annual Kinetics 5K a couple of weeks ago with all the mountains about... I find it hard to choose running over skating or cycling! The Bolder Boulder 10K is next Monday... VERY similar to the Capitol 10 in Austin... costumes, all ages, and of course same distance!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (08:38)", "body": "Are you doing any triathalons this summer, Stacey?"}, {"response": 69, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (16:43)", "body": "possibly the Tin Man in FOrt Collins. but I'm more excited at this point about the charity rides through the mountains. Four days. 265 miles. Camping."}, {"response": 70, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jun  3, 1999 (19:19)", "body": "well... four years later... I'm signing up for another marathon... only the very pleasant memories of the 26 miler remain in my brain now so I guess it's time! Better cause this time... Leukemia Society! last time I just ran for myself. now I have others and a great cause to spur me on! I shall keep you all updated on the details Yesterday... for the first time in a few years I went running and actually have a WONDERFUL time. Paul, you knew me right around the time of the first marathon... did you hear all the gory details about the stress fracture? well since then I've been pretty ugo bout the whole thing... Team Leukemia has spurred me to try again!"}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun  7, 1999 (11:28)", "body": "Stress facture, yep, you aand Patrick Ewing. I'll be pulling for you in this one. They just ran the Danskin Triathalon again in Austin."}, {"response": 72, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun  7, 1999 (18:38)", "body": "man, that one was a blast! they don't run it here until August because the water temp is too cool yet!"}, {"response": 73, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun 28, 1999 (11:10)", "body": "well I've crossed the mental 'hump' and gotten back into the joy of running. I'm going daily now before work and always for time versus distance one hour yesterday 40 minutes today off Tuesday 50 minutes Wednesday (hard) 30 minutes Thursday (easy) recovery on Friday - walking or cycling or goofing off group run Saturday (1 1/2 hours hard) and an easy Sunday while it took several weeks to get into a groove, I'm enjoying the schedule now and finding the short runs easy and invigorating (long runs are still kicking my ass!) I met my patient honoree yesterday at what turned out to be a pretty emotional first meeting of Fall Team Leukemia in Training."}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 28, 1999 (11:13)", "body": "Are you running the same course every day, or do you mix it up? Trail or track?"}, {"response": 75, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun 28, 1999 (12:16)", "body": "there are three parks within two miles of our house and one is about 50 yards away... I usually run through the closest one (Ketring Park) and around Ketring Lake but the other day I ran over to Sterne Park and the rose garden. Usually I'd get bored running through the same area but Ketring Lake has a swan couple with three cygnets, several duck families complete with ducklings and three families of canadian geese (w/ goslings) -- it's fun to watch them grow! Littleton Historical Museum is also right there and there are two horses, three cows and two calfs (one born last week!), peacocks, quail and some big fat birds I don't know the name of. Silly as it sounds, I run and chat with the animals... At lunchtime I'll either run the Deer Creek hiking trail or another one that goes up and over the hogback (in the foothills)"}, {"response": 76, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jul 12, 1999 (15:53)", "body": "trained with my TNT team on Saturday... ran a 10 K in 48!!!!"}, {"response": 77, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (10:49)", "body": "difficult early a.m. workout... 3 sets of 300 sprints one set is a sprint 300, easy 100, sprint 300, easy 100, sprint 300, easy 100, moderate 400... so we did that 3 times. I like the group trainings, I really need the push a lot of times... anyone else running? (even if it's just to answer the phone...)"}, {"response": 78, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (10:54)", "body": "Nope, just swimming a lot."}, {"response": 79, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (13:26)", "body": "where?? /"}, {"response": 80, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (21:14)", "body": "In the backyard. Haven't been to Bartons yet this year. Did you know the pool temp there is a couple of degrees hotter than usual? It's about 70-72 degrees instead of the usual 68."}, {"response": 81, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (10:44)", "body": "Hmmm... reasons??"}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (11:57)", "body": "Decreased water supply because of the vast amounts of water now being used in the Austin area is part of it. The summer heat."}, {"response": 83, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (13:28)", "body": "but that water temp has been constant for years... is the output still at 68 degrees but it's warming in the pool? BTW... no running today... quads (if you can believe it!) are sore from all the sprints yesterday... something interesting I heard as well... anaerobic activity causes the body to create new capillaries... eventually increasing the body's efficiency in distributing oxygen..."}, {"response": 84, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (10:02)", "body": "gotta say it... running is the quintessential 'taking off the inches' exercise Unfortuanately the inches are coming off the boobs too... ANYONE OUT THERE RUNNING???"}, {"response": 85, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (11:22)", "body": "Saturday was the biggest run before the marathon... now I start tapering. My running buddy and I ran a fairly swift 20.6 miles. I took an OTC anti-inflammatory before the run and I was pain free all during. A lot of stiffness Sunday but no joint pain and I feel great today! This was an real accomplishment especially in the emotional sense... six more miles is inconsequential!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 30, 1999 (22:49)", "body": "did the Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving Day and 10 miles on Saturday no more long runs... the marathon is in 12 days!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (21:11)", "body": "looking back - were you as prepared as you would have liked to have been or over-prepared? Or...just right?"}, {"response": 88, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (10:38)", "body": "just right methinks. it's always hard to run significantly above or below your regular pace so there was no real way to prepare for that. in fact, when I'm nervous I tend to push my pace so... the hardest part was being out there so long!"}, {"response": 89, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (13:58)", "body": "Did you notice that your running shoes sustained more wear than usual? Our paving is made of lava gravel which is high in silicates. It is not only hard on kids' knees and elbows, it makes your shoes and tires wear out much sooner than they would on the Mainland road surfaces."}, {"response": 90, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (14:21)", "body": "I wore my old running shoes so this was their last hurrah anyway... they started out looking like hell! I usually run on trails so the asphalt felt hard but then so would have regular asphalt when you're used to dirt!"}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (14:29)", "body": "I notice that when I hike. Get shinsplints much easier pounding the pavement than when I am on dirt. Have 'um bronzed and hang them where you need inspiration - though you seem to be a self-motivator. I am still amazed and delighted with your run and conditioning! Another bow is due."}, {"response": 92, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (14:39)", "body": "thanks! *humblish bow with a big grin on my face*"}, {"response": 93, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (15:43)", "body": "No need for the humility when you worked that hard to achieve your goal. The big grin is so appropriate. I am soooooo delighted for you!"}, {"response": 94, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (09:44)", "body": "Is anyone doing any indoor running?"}, {"response": 95, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (09:59)", "body": "on the treadmill when the weather is either too cold or too wet"}, {"response": 96, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (10:05)", "body": "What facility to you use?"}, {"response": 97, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (10:23)", "body": "I became a member of 24 Hour Fitness in February of 1999. The facility is huge so equipment is always available and there are 24 Hour Fitnesses just about everywhere so I always have a gym if I'm traveling. Are you still at the Q?"}, {"response": 98, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 10, 2000 (22:46)", "body": "2000 Honolulu Marathon times will be in the chips By Pat Bigold Star-Bulletin One of the most uncomfortable things about a footrace the size of the Honolulu Marathon is the start. With 21,211 official finishers in the 1999 race, it was the fourth-largest marathon in the world. Buried in a sea of humanity that runs from Ala Moana Park to Queen Street Extension starting line, participants trudge, run in place, push, yell, and sometimes trip in their anxiety to begin running. The anxiety comes from knowing that the one to eight minutes it takes to reach the start will be added to their finishing times. But that's all in the past now. Dr. Jim Barahal, president of the Honolulu Marathon Association, is prescribing a stress pill for his race on Dec. 10. Make that a microchip. The 2000 Honolulu Marathon will use the ChampionChip for timing. The chip, which is the size of a silver dollar, ties into the laces of a running shoe. Through the use of a high-frequency identification system, it ensures that a runner's time from only starting line to finish line is recorded. There's no need to remove it after the race because all of the timing data will have been transmitted into race computers. \"The exciting part about this from the average runner's point of view is accurate timing and reduction of anxiety to cross the start,\" Barahal said. It also will nearly eliminate cheating and entirely eliminate the need for chutes at the finish area. A runner's family on the mainland, Japan or any part of the world will be able to track his or her progress through postings on www.honolulumarathon.org during the race. The ChampionChip is used throughout the world in footraces like the Boston, New York City and Berlin marathons. It was invented in the Netherlands and was first used in 1994 in Berlin. Mike Burns, whose Burns Computer Services has handled Honolulu Marathon timing for years, is the U.S. distributor and operator of the chip system. \"I'm hoping that Honolulu will have a minimum of three to four checkpoints,\" said Burns from his Michigan office last week. Barahal said he probably will place the timing mats at the start, the 10-kilometer (6.2 miles) point, the half-marathon (13.1 miles) point and the finish. \"It's too expensive to put them everywhere,\" he said. \"It will open up the finish area because you won't need any chutes. \"Now you have to have people in the chutes to keep people in order as they cross the finish line. That's not a pleasant experience for runners not feeling well after completing the marathon.\" Each checkpoint will have two systems, except for the start, which could have four. Each system costs $17,000 but the cost will be absorbed by the Honolulu Marathon Association. The cost of the new $8 chip, however, will be passed on to runners. That will be immediately noticeable Saturday when the popular early sign-up period begins. Whereas the early entry fee was $2, it will increase to $10. Barahal said he shied away from the chip during its first few years of use because of the cost, which was $35 per chip. The more expensive chip was reusable. The Honolulu chip, which will be emblazoned with a commemorative logo, can be used only once. Because Honolulu's field is made up largely of Japanese runners, Barahal was concerned not to scare them off with extra costs. Of the 26,724 entrants in 1999, 12,877 were from Japan. From May 15 to Oct. 31, the Honolulu Marathon entry fee for local residents will rise from $30 to $37 while the fee for out-of-state runners will increase from $65 to $72. From Nov. 1 to Nov. 14, the fee for local residents will go from $45 to $52. The nonresident fee will jump from $75 to $82. From Nov. 15 to Dec. 9, the late fee for all runners will increase from $100 to $110. The Boston Marathon (April 17), which has John Hancock as its major sponsor, has the most extensive chip operation of any race in the world. It uses about $500,000 worth of systems on its course, providing runner splits every five kilometers and at the half-marathon mark. The progress of any runner can be tracked during the race via the Internet. The chip is a transponder attached to a tiny coil of wire. Each chip, created by Texas Instruments, has a unique seven-character ID code which cannot be duplicated. The chip remains passive until the wire comes into contact with the magnetic field created by 3-foot-by-7-foot mats placed at strategic points on the race course. When the runner sets foot on the mat, the transponder transmits its ID code to antenna wires inside the mat and the runner's time is recorded."}, {"response": 99, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 11, 2000 (20:12)", "body": "The Sex Drive of Long Distance Runners LONDON (Reuters) - Sex on the eve of a big race is good for marathon running, according to a survey carried out for the organizers of Sunday's London marathon. ``Every competitor planning to build a last-minute lovemaking session into their training program will run faster than those who don't,'' organizers said on Tuesday. ``And the study goes on to conclude that marathon running can be good for your sex life, with 30 percent of those questioned saying the sport had improved their performance in bed.'' The survey, commissioned by the race sponsors, explores the loves, hates and habits of long distance runners and was based on the finishing times of 2,000 entrants in last year's event, of both sexes. Half of those questioned maintained their sex life had been unaffected by running while eight percent said running had harmed it. Most runners were against sex the night before the big day competitors have to get up early on the morning of the race. ``But those who said 'yes' with men being more 'for' than women had faster finishing times,'' organizers said. Peter Marsh of the Oxford-based Social Issues Research Center who carried out the survey, added: ``For the first time we have gone inside the mind of the marathon runner and produced some very interesting findings not least those about sex. ``The survey also shows how preparing to take part in this great test of endurance can affect many different areas of people's lives.'' The favorite for Sunday's men's race however, the U.S.-based Khalid Khannouchi of Morocco, is not a fan of sex before hours of pounding the streets. ``We don't have sex not even a week before,'' his wife and coach Sandra said. ``The week before we just concentrate on the marathon. After the race is over we have a party. But not before. It doesn't work for us.''"}, {"response": 100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (22:31)", "body": "Khannouchi Hopes to Resolve Citizenship Difficulties NEW YORK (Reuters) - Khalid Khannouchi's prospects of running in the Sydney Olympics depend both on his recovery from the London marathon and a resolution to his citizenship difficulties. The 28-year-old Moroccan, who finished third in Sundays' race, is seeking U.S. citizenship and a place in the American team for this year's Games. Holder of the world best for the 42.195 km event, Khannouchi hopes to take advantage of a provision expediting citizenship for spouses employed overseas now that his American wife Sandra works in Spain for a U.S. firm. Khannouchi's Houston-based lawyer, Harry Gee, is optimistic that his client's citizenship will come through by May 3, the same week as the U.S. Olympic marathon trials. ``There is an opportunity for him to get it in time,'' Gee, who is involved with the Houston 2012 Olympic bid and volunteered his services in this case, said last week. ``I project about a 80 percent chance.'' Having represented Morocco at the 1993 World University Games in Buffalo, New York, Khannouchi would then need Moroccan approval to represent another country less than three years after receiving that country's citizenship. A Moroccan athletic federation official indicated that Khannouchi's chances of getting that approval were questionable. ``In my opinion, he doesn't have much chance,'' said head national coach Aziz Daouda. The final decision would rest with the Moroccan Olympic Committee, and the Khannouchis have also expressed hopes that the International Olympic Committee (IOC) would intervene. ``We would have a meeting about this problem if a written request were received,'' said Moroccan Olympic Committee general secretary Mustapha Zekri through a translator Friday from Rabat. Zekri said he had not yet discussed the matter with the IOC. KHANNOUCHI FACES TOUGH SCHEDULE If Khannouchi were to receive his U.S. citizenship and reassurance of Moroccan approval by the targeted May date, however, he would have to either run his second marathon in three weeks, followed by a third five months later in Sydney, or start training for the U.S. 10,000 meter track trials in July. Either option is a tall order. Most top marathoners run just two events a year, and Khannouchi, who has previously run just one, may see his performance suffer. On the track, although Khannouchi won 5,000 meters gold at the 1993 University Games, he has not raced in years his medal hopes are slim. Although he said he has not attempted to contact Khannouchi, Daouda said the runner could still represent his native country if he wished. ``He's welcome, because he's Moroccan,'' said Daouda. Moroccan Olympic marathon team selection begins in mid-May, with London runner-up Abdelkader El Mouaziz currently the strongest candidate. But the Ossining, N.Y.-based Khannouchi attributes his 1993 move to the United States to disappointment with the Moroccan federation and he is unlikely now to join them. Even if he misses the Sydney Games, Khannouchi will need Moroccan approval to represent the United States at the world championships in 2001. Khannouchi avoided discussing his citizenship issue in the days surrounding his London race, but three weeks ago, at the Lisbon half-marathon, he was generally optimistic. ``Getting the job abroad was the hardest part,'' said Sandra Khannouchi about the citizenship application. Gee said a similar immigration proposal had been invoked in the case of soccer player and former French citizen David Regis. Regis obtained U.S. citizenship in about three months, in time to join the 1998 U.S. World Cup team, even though, unlike Khannouchi, he was not even an American resident at the start of the process. ``Sandra's having taken a job for this purpose did not weaken the case,'' said Gee. ``If you meet the legal requirements of the provision, you are entitled to the benefits.'' he said. Daouda was critical of the rushed citizenship process and obtaining Morocco's approval may prove the harder bureaucratic hurdle. ``It's not fair, otherwise we will have mercenaries in sport, people competing for a country and then two months before the Olympics changing the country and asking for approval,'' he said."}, {"response": 101, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (22:34)", "body": "Moroccan Wins the World's Toughest Race RABAT (Reuters) - Moroccan Mohamed Ahansal won the world's toughest race, the Marathon des Sables, Monday for the third time. Race organizers said Mohamed's younger brother Lahcen was second at the end of the 149-miles, six-stage race. Described by organizers as ``the hardest and the longest since its creation in 1985,'' this year's race was marked by searing heat reaching up to 122 degrees Fahrenheit and strong sandstorms. Mohammed won the race in 1997 and 1999 while Lahcen won in 1998. A record 680 competitors from around the world took part in this year's race but organizers said there was also the highest number of retirements. The two Ahansal brothers run a trekking and camel-touring agency in the southern city of Ouarzazate."}, {"response": 102, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 18, 2000 (12:36)", "body": "ugh. 122 degrees F"}, {"response": 103, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 18, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "No wonder they said it is the worst or whatever. I'm surprised many finish under those conditions!"}, {"response": 104, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "Runner Dies After Freak Hammer Accident PRAGUE (Reuters) - A teenage Czech athlete has died after being hit by a hammer in a freak accident at a local meeting, her club said Wednesday. Zuzana Krejcova was struck in the head and neck by the hammer which broke while being thrown by Czech number one Vladimir Maska in Turnov Monday, Mirko Graef, an official at the Slovan Liberec athletic club, told Reuters. The 18-year-old middle distance runner was hit as she sat about 10 meters outside the throwing zone. The athlete, who finished fifth in the Czech junior indoor 800 meters championship earlier this year, died of her injuries in hospital Tuesday, Graef said. Graef said standard precautions were taken for throwing the seven kilogram (14.4 pound) hammer."}, {"response": 105, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (19:33)", "body": "What a shame... they ought to put a backstop around those throwing things, with it open only out to the correct throwing direction."}, {"response": 106, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May  4, 2000 (19:38)", "body": "Absolutely! They have batting cages around baseball players and all sorts of other precautions made of heavy net and strong frames... Guess they might do so now..."}, {"response": 107, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug  7, 2003 (22:50)", "body": "Slowly getting back into the fun run scene! I did a 4-miler on the 4th of July and a 10K last Sunday... I am as slow as the proverbial molasses in the wintertime and the \"free\" t-shirts just don't mean as much as they used to but... hey!"}, {"response": 108, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug  9, 2003 (15:51)", "body": "That's great. What's your workout schedule like?"}, {"response": 109, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Aug 25, 2003 (22:38)", "body": "ha! ummm... put kids to bed at 8:30pm, grab some caffeine, kiss my husband and head to the gym. Depending on what is in my cup I will either 'workout' or 'play' on the elliptical trainer for 45-60 minutes and, if I've actually 'worked out' as opposed to the alternative, I'll try some free weights (8 whole pounds!)! During the days the kids and I will walk a couple of miles (kids in stroller, me pushing) or I've just started skating with them in the double jogger. Ri had his first Burley ride last weekend and that went pretty well, so I may add some cycling to the mix when the weather is a bit more predicatable. And you? Running at all? Still swimming regularly? fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 7, "subject": "fitness routines", "response_count": 25, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 29, 1997 (08:45)", "body": "Here's an aerobics routine that I read aobut recently. How can this be improved? What music would be good with this? Stretch No movement physically. Constant or increasing pressure Meditation music prefered. 10 minutes typical Warmup Nonstructured exercise which must be completed within 4-6 minutes. Something to inspire...beat not required. Could even be a speech. Regular Set 10-20 repetitions in 2 count, 4 count or 8 count Power Set 40-60 repetitions SuperSet Regular and/or Power sets with less than 20 seconds rest between sets. Preferably nonstop. Walking Jogging Running Each of these is speed dependant. Stride music. Jazz, rock, band or dance. Cooldown Nonstructured exercises 3 minutes Final Stretch Up to 20 minutes."}, {"response": 2, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (10:51)", "body": "If I were more industrious, I would start a cycling ocnference. I went looking for a road bike on Sat. biggest problem is my size. Very few bikes with a low enough stand over and short enough top tube. I think I'll end up with a freak show bike : 24 in front wheel!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (18:49)", "body": "I'm lookin' for a dirt bike too!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Thu, Dec 11, 1997 (12:00)", "body": "Yeah I hear dirtbiking will keep you in shape, IF you're in shape! Never done it. Anyone a practicing martial artist? I spent high school & 3 years of college developing my skills, a discipline that has stayed with me as a fitness enhncer to this day. Believe me I could always work-out more, but I much prefer it to aerobics."}, {"response": 5, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (20:20)", "body": "I taught aerobics for too long... it has ceased to amuse me."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 16, 1997 (00:12)", "body": "The aerobics classes at the Q are always packed with women."}, {"response": 7, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Tue, Dec 16, 1997 (10:15)", "body": "and....? (o:}"}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (20:19)", "body": "THAT's why he goes. Or why he stands at the water fountain for extended periods of time!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (10:44)", "body": "LOL. We've all been there I bet. I won a membership to a club somehow 2 years ago, I think I filled out a slip in a pizzeria. When I went in to East coast Fitness (6', 155lbs, reasonable definition), I find that it's a haven for *serious* bodybuilders! I mean guys who are bouncers, competitors, hardbodies to the max. Intimidating as entering a strange bar where all the bikers stop talking. BUT it turned out to be a great place to work out with Nautilus and free weights and the guys and few women were grea ; no time spent on BS'ing just exercise. I'll miss it."}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (11:17)", "body": "Memberships too outrageously expensive to sponsor yourself?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (14:37)", "body": "No, I moved 40 miles and 30 minutes away. Membership was $230 a year, a bargain. The way a club ought to be, now that I've seen the Ballys' garbage on one hand and the near by pool with tennis club and weight room on the other. So it's wieghts in the basement and out by the shed, with a little basketball and woodchopping when I can!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (14:38)", "body": "No, I moved 40 miles and 30 minutes away. Membership was $230 a year, a bargain. The way a club ought to be, now that I've seen the Ballys' garbage on one hand and the near by pool with tennis club and weight room on the other. So it's weights in the basement and out by the shed, with a little basketball and woodchopping when I can!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (19:15)", "body": "Gotta try woodchopping. Sounds like it would indeed work up a sweat."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (01:41)", "body": "I'm with ya on the basketball, I can play for hours."}, {"response": 15, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (10:52)", "body": "Yeah chopping wood's pretty good. Unfortunately basketball is a near-dead game around here. I'm determined to find time to work at oganizing a loose bunch at some point; most of the \"dads\" around here are health club & NordicTrac fans. And the younger kids around have no interest or just flat can't play ball. One of the shocks of moving away from the city? I'will probably put a 1/2 court pad in my backyard this summer, I gotta shoot!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (11:03)", "body": "I play 21 with my kids every now and again... helps with the height advantage (no matter how slight!)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (22:14)", "body": "Great I'll play ya 21 when you get to town!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 18, 1998 (19:00)", "body": "no routine... routines get old I hate exercise for the sake of exercise I prefer it to be a result of my going out and having a good time!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (02:14)", "body": "if that could always be case, I might actually exercise..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (16:43)", "body": "how do you like to have a good time? what activity do you wish burned more calories or produced more lean muscle mass?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (19:27)", "body": "hard to tell anymore... not sure, I'll have to think on it awhile... (gotta feeling it'll be something like daydreaming or fantasizing, though!)"}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (19:30)", "body": "well, perhaps we could harness the pleasure of that activity and combine it with something truly physical... (got any magazines?) *giggle*"}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (20:25)", "body": "lotsa National Geographics, why?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, May 21, 1998 (10:00)", "body": "perhaps if you were to fantasize about climbing, let's say Denali, we could work out some sort of physical movements to actually work the body!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 21, 1998 (11:15)", "body": "virtual exercise...think I'm gonna like this (or would that be fantasy exercise...hmmmm) fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 8, "subject": "free diving", "response_count": 17, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 24, 1997 (22:57)", "body": "Megan Greer is trying to go deeper than any woman ever has. Last summer she set the record of 155'. She's a part time model, and she looks every bit of it. Buffed out. And gorgeous. On her dives she surrounds herself with safety divers. She hyperventilates before she dives. \"Everything you do should be very relaxed... you sink like a rock...\" She squeezes her nose to keep her earfrums from bursting. She has to turn around and surface before blacking out. Reveillo has set the men's record. I'm not sure what it is though. But fourteen people have died from free diving. They showed Megan getting a new American record of 165'. She had on huge fins. She looked very relaxed."}, {"response": 2, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 25, 1997 (10:34)", "body": "the death part of the experience makes it sound not so exciting."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 25, 1997 (19:44)", "body": "What's the deepest you've ever gone Stacey, just a rough estimate?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Sep 26, 1997 (11:16)", "body": "just enough to get my hair wet! Seriously, I dove 20 feet or so to touch the top of an old silo buried in a filled rock quarry during a lifesaving class. Portage Quarry Portage, OH summer 1986."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 27, 1997 (16:37)", "body": "Twenty feet is impressive. Did you ever dive down in the deep part of Barton Springs? The place with the cave by the diving board."}, {"response": 6, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 29, 1997 (09:50)", "body": "nope. never knew it was there. Have you?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 29, 1997 (12:49)", "body": "Yep, but then they cemented up the cave. Are there good places to swim where you are now?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 30, 1997 (10:10)", "body": "Not much of a swimmer unless I'm on the front end of a triathalon. Water is pretty chilly here and I'm not fond of chlorinated pools. I do miss the springs!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 30, 1997 (21:31)", "body": "No equivalent of the springs there?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct  1, 1997 (12:56)", "body": "There's the hot springs in Glenwood, about 3 hours away. Not so much for swimmng as it is for relaxing. They have 2 pools -- one at 97 degrees year round and one at 104 year round (the therapy pool)."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct  3, 1997 (00:12)", "body": "Have you been there yet?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct  6, 1997 (10:48)", "body": "Yes, I went last year around Halloween. A solo, mental health trip. The springs was a great place to relax and find my center again. Hell, the mountains in general are a great place to do that -- the springs just helped. Now you can take an Amtrak through the mtns. and spend the weekend, a package deal sort of thing!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct  6, 1997 (15:23)", "body": "I ran in to \"Mexico Mike\" at the Whole Earth Expo who has great guidebook to spas in Mexico, have you ever been to Mexico, stacey. By the way, are you having trouble getting into any other conferences?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct  6, 1997 (18:58)", "body": "Mexico... Been to Cancun and border towns, never a Mexican spa! Nope no other conference problems. One question though... how do I get a listing of the subcategories in a conference?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct  6, 1997 (20:56)", "body": "Are you using telnet? If you are, you just type 'b' at the OK prompt 'b' stands for browse. Likewise, 'list' will list all the conferences."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct  6, 1997 (20:57)", "body": "Have you found the help files useful? (eg. typing help at OK prompt). help commands is a good one"}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Oct  7, 1997 (10:17)", "body": "yep, still using telnet. I'll let you know how this is working in a sec, after I try it. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 9, "subject": "Cross Country Skiing", "response_count": 53, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Mon, Dec  1, 1997 (19:09)", "body": "I second the motion, Jon. It's a sneaky workout but great, IMHO."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec  1, 1997 (21:34)", "body": "Last time I went cross country was on Mt. Shasta in California. Loved it!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "triumph", "date": "Tue, Dec  2, 1997 (02:15)", "body": "Sneaky? How so?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "triumph", "date": "Tue, Dec  2, 1997 (03:13)", "body": "Following is all the stuff from the original thread started in Motorcycling: Steve Midgely Wrote: I ski cross country (telemark, actually) equipment on black diamond (most difficult) runs at the resorts and use the same skis for a cruise through the woods or go out to the desert after a snowstorm to ski where probably no one has skied before. Very adaptable sport. Those new high tech snowshoes are a blast too. Yeah, there were a lot of snow shoers out today. I don't quite understand. To me skiing is fun in and of itself, and cross country skiing is fun because you can go out and travel through the woods even though it's snowy--something I enjoy doing in the summer anyway. But to me it would seem that snow shoes would be nothing more than a way to extend the hiking season and get up in the woods. Where's the particular fun of walking with big pieces of aluminum and nylon webbing tied to your feet? Like I said, I enjoy hiking anyway, but I don't see the fun of flying down a down hill stretch or cutting through a turn as you have in down hill and cross country skiing. I can't judge, though, as I've never tried it. Gee, I don't have $250 to spend on snow shoes just at this moment. Telemark looks way cool, and that's what I wanted to get, but I found a set of Fischer skis in almost perfect shape with pin style bindings and my size Asolo boots (completely reconditioned and like new) for $130 so I couldn't pass it up. Perhaps later I'll get some tele bindings and boots, but in the meantime these pin style boots and bindings work great. 1 new of 15 responses total. Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 1 of 15: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Nov 29, 1997 (20:27) * 3 lines We could actually zap it over to sports or fitness. The conferences. Good topic! But kind of a stretch to relate it to bikes. Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 2 of 15: Jon Lind (triumph) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (00:05) * 1 lines Oh yeah, totally unrelated to bikes. I kinda wanted to tell my buddies what I was up to now that I can't ride, but couldn't think of a place to put it. If it's o.k. with you, Terry, I'll leave it up for a day or two and erase the entire topic. Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 3 of 15: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (10:06) * 1 lines XCountry skiing is relaxing and also a great, cheap way to stay in shape during the cold weather. Once I got the hang of controlling the turns (where the thinking is similar to good riding, there, on topic?) regarding setup and entrance, it's tremendous. The only thing I enjoy in the cold outdoors! Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 4 of 15: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (10:17) * 3 lines How about a topic on \"What To Do When Not Riding\"? I'd monopolize that one! Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 5 of 15: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (11:03) * 1 lines LOL! Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 6 of 15: Jon Lind (triumph) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (12:30) * 1 lines You monopolize, Sam? Never! Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 7 of 15: Steve Midgley (smidgley) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (12:46) * 3 lines How about this - A few years ago, when at the end of the ski season the temperatures were in the 50's, a couple of my friends somehow packed their skis on their Norton Commando's and rode up the canyon to spend a day on the slopes. Or this - Last week, the president of CD-ROM (Crazed Ducati Riders of Maine) put a pair of short little kids skis on, put his Duc in second or third gear since he wouldn't be able to shift with the skis on and went for a ride in the snow on his 900SS. Apparently he was able to keep his balance with the skis on the snow pretty well but this didn't help him when it was time to go back up the driveway to his garage - he couldn't make it, so now his Duc gets to spend the winter at the curb. Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 8 of 15: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (13:35) * 1 lines He's lucky and must be wealthy, risking a bike like that! I thought it was CDRO-Massachsetts, Steve? Guess they really are crazy.. Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 9 of 15: Steve Midgley (smidgley) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (14:08) * 1 lines You're right but Maine is easier to spell! Topic 28 of 29 [motorcycle]: Cross Country Skiing (There's No Way To Make This Topical) Response 10 of 15: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Mon, Dec 1, 1997 (09:34) * 1 lines I've met a few of those guys at the Dairy; they're all well-attired with Roadcrafter's or "}, {"response": 5, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Tue, Dec  2, 1997 (10:49)", "body": "By \"sneaky workout\" I mean that at first (for me) I didn't think it was too strenuous, just very pleasant, outdoorsy travel in the cold; then I kept going and going, a little break for a sandwich by the lake, then going and going...all of a sudden you've covered a few miles and realize you have muscles you never used! I see why NordicTrack sells those machines, it's addictive. BTW I have an old set of Kneissls, waxless, pin bindings. Super cheap."}, {"response": 6, "author": "triumph", "date": "Tue, Dec  2, 1997 (14:23)", "body": "Yeah, it is a cheap sport. My Fischers (in very good shape) with the bindings was only $30. The Asolo boots (used but restored to like new condition) were $100. I bought the poles for $2 at a church rummage sale. For such a small investment I'm in business."}, {"response": 7, "author": "smidgley", "date": "Tue, Dec  2, 1997 (23:49)", "body": "The boots are by far the most important piece of equipment in any kind of skiing and Asolo makes some of the best. It is possible to spend a $1000 on specialized telemark stuff and it is so specialized that it isn't much different from downhill equipment - and about as useful on level ground. I have gone with skis and boots that are somewhere in between the running shoe type \"boots\" and 2\" wide track type skis and all out tele gear. Actually, a lot of advanced tele skiers are using downhill slalom cut ski mounted with 3-pin bindings. I do have a set of those but by far my favorites are some off brand metal edged cross country boards that do a good job both on packed snow at the resorts and touring where I'm cutting the trail. Buying used makes a lot of sense as does buying in the spring at closeout sales."}, {"response": 8, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec  3, 1997 (03:13)", "body": "Exactly what is \"tele skiing\"? I understand that it's not so much a type of equipment as a style of skiing. What's a \"slalom cut\" ski? Mine are quite narrow and short (you sink to the ground on anything but the hardest ice), but they were cheap and they're easy to control. I wanted to get a Tele style setup because it was obvious that clipping in and out would be easier, and some of the boots I saw were completely functional as real shoes. The Asolos aren't bad shoes--they just have that duck bill that doesn't really get in the way. But I couldn't afford to buy a new setup right now and I found the boots used (but completely reconditioned) in my size and the skis, so I went ahead and got them. You can save alot of money for equipment in very good shape by buying used. Around here it's harder to find cross country stuff because down hill is so popular, but when you do find it it's alot cheaper than downhill equipment (although I paid $3 for my downhill skis, but that was an exceptional deal). Luckily there's a cross country ski shop not to far from here the owner of which is pretty enthusiastic, involved, and helpful. It's been snowing all day today and some last night. Should stop tomorrow--I'm going to go out."}, {"response": 9, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Dec  3, 1997 (05:29)", "body": "Here in Montreal region there`s not enough snow yet. So it's still a very dull season. Last weekend was for the bikes winterization, the next one will be the unwax, rewax, resharpening skis time.Then playtime."}, {"response": 10, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec  3, 1997 (16:29)", "body": "I agree about the sneaky. I didn't realize how tired I was until I was on the way back down the hill and couldn't get back up after crashing."}, {"response": 11, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Wed, Dec  3, 1997 (17:02)", "body": "Exactly my wife's experience. But once you're into it, I think only swimming comes close to the complete workout you're getting. It's the only reason I find snow tolerable!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec  3, 1997 (23:00)", "body": "You're right--if not for that living here would totally suck. I mean, what else can you do with your time when there's a foot of snow outside? This way you can still get out and see nature and enjoy the outdoors. When it gets down to 0 (and below) in January and February, then what will I do? Uh oh....."}, {"response": 13, "author": "yves", "date": "Thu, Dec  4, 1997 (02:46)", "body": "You will be surprised if you have the guts to kick you out the house and put you skis on at these temperatures. One secret is multi-laying clothes (to keep comfort). It's a real good feeling to have the cold biting you face in a sunny day, with you body heated by the effort. Really great."}, {"response": 14, "author": "smidgley", "date": "Thu, Dec  4, 1997 (03:38)", "body": "Telemark (or just tele) skiing has become a kind of generic term for any free-heel downhill skiing as opposed to modern downhill where your boot is rigidly attached to the ski. Actually, telemark refers to a type of turn where the uphill ski is extended back and your weight is on the ball of your foot. The effect is of turning one long ski. Very elegant and also difficult to master. In practice, most \"tele\" skiers use a variety of turns depending on the snow and slope conditions. One of my pair of skis has just the standard three-pin bindings and must be used with the duckbill boots, the other two have bindings where the boot is wedged into the toepiece with a spring loaded cable that fits around the heel of the boot. The skis with the three-pin bindings are the shortest and lightest that I own and get used when I'm just doing some casual touring. The skis with cable bindings are better for when I'm going to be doing any downhill turns as they hold the boot on the ski better. Ther is a tendancy for the boot to twist off of the ski when you turn and the cable helps prevent that. Also, the pin-boot interface is a weak point and though I've never broken the pins, I have torn the soles off of a pair of boots at the toe. Slalom skis have the flex pattern and sidecut optimized for downhill slalom racing - they turn very quickly but aren't stable at high speeds. Some particularly strong and aggressive skiers mount them with tele bindings for downhill use but they wouldn't be much good for general touring."}, {"response": 15, "author": "yves", "date": "Thu, Dec  4, 1997 (03:58)", "body": "Telemark is a very elegent style and I admire people doing it. You must be in good shape, specialy the legs.."}, {"response": 16, "author": "triumph", "date": "Thu, Dec  4, 1997 (17:44)", "body": "My skis are very narrow and short. Easily controlled, but no matter where I go I sink completely into the snow, making cutting across the 3 foot snow drifts almost as bad as walking. With larger skis shouldn't one sink less?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "triumph", "date": "Thu, Dec  4, 1997 (17:50)", "body": "I know what you mean about body heat. I go out there when it's not much above 30 with three shirts and two coats on and the next thing you know I'm down to a T-shirt, wishing I could take it off. It'll surely heat you up quickly. I went out today to practice down hilling. There's a place at Myer Ranch Open Space Park (which is not far from my house) that's near the parking lot where alot of sledders go. I tried downhilling there, but it was too fast and ended up mostly sliding down the hill on my butt. I then started going down the hill at an angle, which slowed my descent some, and I had better results. I tell you what, though, downhill is hard! The worst part is that I don't seem to get much better every time I go out. Cross country skiing ain't fun if you spend an hour going up hill and 2 hours falling down hill (having to get back up every 20 feet). Takes forever! But I don't mind wiping out."}, {"response": 18, "author": "yves", "date": "Fri, Dec  5, 1997 (03:57)", "body": "We were serching a relationship with motorcycling, both of them keeps the butt in good shape :o)... The first time I went to school, I didn't read the first week, nether the second. You have to learn to control your speed. Maybe a smaller hill? Did you ever made down hill skiing?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Fri, Dec  5, 1997 (10:17)", "body": "First & last downhill experience: with a girlfriend, a very good skier, on a trip to some resort near Boston MA. Shop guy gears me up as a bug-eyed guy comes sailing off the adjacent run, *over* some parked cars, Boom, into the drifts outside the building. OK. Next get taken up to an \"intermediate\" slope; looks like a frikkin' cliff to me, get basic instructions, and it's out-of-control-time...no idea how to control thesesticks, etc. Sure ain't water-skiing! Result: I forget downhill altogether thank you."}, {"response": 20, "author": "triumph", "date": "Fri, Dec  5, 1997 (15:38)", "body": "I tried down hill once and kept wrecking. That wouldn't have bothered me much except that I couldn't figure out how to stand back up without taking my skis off. There I was--lying in the middle of the traffic with people flying around me at 100 mph and being a potential cause of a wreck. I'm going to practice getting back up (Cross Country has helped) before I go back out. I don't mind flying down the hill, wrecking, and then getting back up. It was the getting back up part that was hard, though. I had a similar experience (without the girl friend). The only slopes open when I was there were blues. As you said, it seems like a cliff. And with those huge, heavy, 190cm skis I had almost no control. They were like aircraft carriers--you'd slide them to the side to slow down and you'd just keep going. But cross country is helping, so I should be better next time I go. It's frustrating, however, as I don't seem to be getting much better each time I go out. I'm sure it'll come, though."}, {"response": 21, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Fri, Dec  5, 1997 (15:50)", "body": "Maybe a slight change of terrain would help? Parks can be exhausting for a newcomer if you ask me. I learned on a golf course in Lake Placid, just enough open gentle hills and flats. then I went around the lake itself, with various terrain, trees, etc. Only landed on one guys front door after a turning miss. What or where are you skiing? Even snowed-out roads around here are pretty OK."}, {"response": 22, "author": "triumph", "date": "Fri, Dec  5, 1997 (20:13)", "body": "Roads are bad because people drive on them and they become icy. I'm skiing mostly at a little park that has a nice big (mostly) gently sloping meadow with a hill in the back that's laced with trails. Pretty nice, but you're right--it can be tiring."}, {"response": 23, "author": "yves", "date": "Sat, Dec  6, 1997 (03:56)", "body": "If you could have someone to give you some basic technics it would help. Cause without technic, you'll work harder for the same result. But it will keep you in shape. Most important is to have fun. Do you know about waxing??"}, {"response": 24, "author": "triumph", "date": "Sat, Dec  6, 1997 (16:50)", "body": "I don't think mine have to be waxed. What kind of skis do you use, Yves (and Frank)? I've got some Fischers that are super light and made out of some kind of plastic. They have a \"sintered\" base right under the foot so you don't have to use kick wax. Works pretty well."}, {"response": 25, "author": "triumph", "date": "Sat, Dec  6, 1997 (16:52)", "body": "The guy I've skiied with (and who got me started, basically) has helped some. Atleast he tells me all about it in the parking lot before he goes flying off without me. ;-)"}, {"response": 26, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Sat, Dec  6, 1997 (17:42)", "body": "Mine are fiberglass composite, and waxless although they can be waxd if you want. Make sense? They're about 10 years old. i think once you get the basics it's just practicing until you feel relaxed, like it's not work. Took me about 4 sessions before I could do it without thinking"}, {"response": 27, "author": "yves", "date": "Sun, Dec  7, 1997 (02:12)", "body": "I have 2 pairs of skis. One waxless (with kind of fish scales under the foot) and one pair that need waxing. The last ones are expensive and faster. But at temperature near 32 I hate putting those gluish waxes, and it's harder to chose the right wax cause the snow structure is instable. When it's colder the wax cover about 10 deg. differences and the temperature is more stable, sunny or not. My wife have a 20 years old pair of wooden 'Karu' skis. They need more protection but works geniously and dont ask e why but I use for them a colder wax type at around 32 deg.. We wear Salomon boots and harness. There's a slot on the boot and a track on the harness and that keeps the skis in the good direction easier. We're dooing cross-country skiing for about 20 years but are not experts. We just have fun, taking fresh air, enjoying winter. We're going tomorow for skiing, there's enought snow up north. But as Franc wrote it earlier, relaxing and having fun is the most important."}, {"response": 28, "author": "triumph", "date": "Sun, Dec  7, 1997 (13:36)", "body": "My skis have a little studded plate under the heel of your boot so when you step down you get much more control, but (of course) it doesn't effect you when your heel is off the ski. My friend (who's much more talented than me) doesn't have these and has much more difficulty as his skis kind of flop around. They're older wood skis with some older boots, so that may be his problem as well. All in all I really like the way the skis feel, but I need to get some bigger ones--I sink in on almost everything."}, {"response": 29, "author": "yves", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (01:01)", "body": "Can't help you on off-track skiing. For sure you need larger or longer skis but I don't have knowledge on that kind of cross-contry skiing. When I want to go in forest I put on my snow-shoes. That way I can go everywere I wanna go, dirt bushes, even climbing in mountains. You also must have the right size for your weight. P.S. Had a very nice ride today. Around 7 km. for the first one is not bad. The old man is not as old as I was expecting :o))."}, {"response": 30, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (17:35)", "body": "Yves you're my kind' a guy!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "triumph", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (18:33)", "body": "Cool! It's been a month since I've been on the bike. Yeah, I'd like to get some snow shoes, but $200 for some anodized aluminum and nylon webbing just seems a little stiff to me."}, {"response": 32, "author": "yves", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (19:02)", "body": "Franc, I take that as a compliment. Jon, if you can afford $200 for a pair of snow shoes it's ok. But you don't have to. Think that you won't be on them every day. I have my wooden ones for years and are as new and ther is lot of miles on them."}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (20:00)", "body": "No! No! No! We're skiing remember!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "yves", "date": "Tue, Dec  9, 1997 (00:53)", "body": "Oupss. But for my defence we're still in fresh cold air, in beautiful nature...:o)"}, {"response": 35, "author": "triumph", "date": "Tue, Dec  9, 1997 (22:25)", "body": "That's true! I see alot of shoers where I ski (an AWESOME park). I don't mind, but their tracks can be really interesting to ski on. Especially if they're a couple of days old and you've got these big pits in the ground that are all hard and icy. Hell going up, and super fast coming down. But I would suggest anyone snow shoing around me learn to jump. I'm a menace to society on the down hill parts. It's fun, though! I went out this weekend and I can do great going down hill--I don't fall anymore (unless I need to stop or turn....). How do you turn on the dang things?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (01:04)", "body": "It's a simple tech. but you have to know it. Stopping and turning uses the same technic. Try it at low speed first to understand the way it's work. Get down with your skis parallel(slowly), your knees together. Then open your feet (hells) to make a *V* with your skis (the front of your skis (spatulas) not to close, about 6 in., don't let them get one over the other) and keeping you knees together. By that your skis will have an angle that make them bite in the snow. Now you're braking or slowing you down, depending of the angle that you give to your skis. Then you'll realise that if you put you weight on the right ski (just by balancing you body on your right) you'll turn to your left. And now, you're turning. Try to keep your body as strait up as possible (you'll be incline to be front leaning). It's your legs that doing the work, and keep relax, your not on TV. (maybe :o)) It's the same basic technic when you're starting down hill skiing,. Try it and give me some news."}, {"response": 37, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (01:09)", "body": "Forgot something, I suggest you to take a bicycle horn with you, the snowshoers will jump off automatically :o)"}, {"response": 38, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (03:14)", "body": "Hee. Thanks, Yves. You should be a comedian (but perhaps in French? :-) I've only met three French Canadians. Miguel Duhamel and these two people that I met at the ski resort in Breckenridge. It embarassed me because I thought they were German! Geez. Only Russian is further from French than German is. Thanks again, I'll give it a try and let you know. That's one thing about Colorado--we get more snow than just about anywhere in the world."}, {"response": 39, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (04:32)", "body": "Miguel Duhamel isn't he a race bike driver? I have a signed poster of Mario Duhamel, he race on Suzuki at the Canadian Superbike Championship. I'm not a race connaisseur. French can sound German specialy people from the Montreal region. The prononciation of the *R* could make it. About the snow, the way your speaking of it, I'm sure that you have much more than here. I have to go 50 miles up north to be able to ski and it's border line. If you can enjoy playing in snow, you'll have fun all the winter time and at spring time it's gonna be the very special feeling of the first ride. P.S. I love humour, fine humour.But in English I'm offen on brakes cause I'm not alway sure to have the right words or give them the right sense. (Dictionnary don't check phrases sense.)"}, {"response": 40, "author": "Cafe", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (11:38)", "body": "I turn by slighty, very slightly lifting the ski opposite of the turn at the same time I angle them in. Maybe that's wrong? The horn is a great idea!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (13:57)", "body": "If it's work your right. But are you sure that's the oposite ski, meaning that turning right you lift the left ski?"}, {"response": 42, "author": "triumph", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (15:36)", "body": "I haven't tried it Yves, but I think you've found my problem. I kept trying to bow the skis in and either couldn't, or didn't get the effect I wanted. Keeping the knees together makes perfect sense."}, {"response": 43, "author": "yves", "date": "Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (16:58)", "body": "By keeping you knees together, you have a good stability and just by widen less or more the back end of your skis you have a good control of you speed. This is a basic tech. There should be others, but most people use it in country skiing. I don't have any knowledge on telemark technic. Maybe it's the one Franc use. At MODERATE speed you can use a skating style or figure. You lift one ski, turn it in the desired direction, put it down with all you weight on it, bring the other one beside, then get your weight on both. On skis, it's always weight transfer."}, {"response": 45, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (11:32)", "body": "huh? (fancy meeting you here)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jan 11, 1999 (18:29)", "body": "tried XC Skate skiing yesterday up at Eldora... oh my aching body! it truly was a lesson in muscle groups as well as humility! After a very steep 30 minute learning curve, I was beyond embarassment and had a blast. It's been a long time since something has so completely worn me out but I was fairly worthless by 7pm!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (07:11)", "body": "This is beyond the cross country skiing on Mt. Shasta that I've done. If Stace' says it's X-Treme it's gotta be."}, {"response": 48, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (09:54)", "body": "(or it's gotta be her first time!!!!)"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (09:56)", "body": "What kind of gear did you use?"}, {"response": 50, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (18:49)", "body": "Ficsher skate skis and bright yellow and red boots... some guy on the trail was ooohing and ahhhing over the equipment, evidently we're talking $350 for boots and $400 for skis... wish I woulda known the difference! It was demo day so we rented for free, trail passes for free... falling down was free too!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "PT", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (20:14)", "body": "That's good. Falling down can sometimes cost you."}, {"response": 52, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (22:37)", "body": "glad to know you're still pushing the bod to the limits, Stace!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (10:53)", "body": "Yeee Haaa!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2006 (20:35)", "body": "Wow, Bodie Miller didn't bode too well in the last Olympics. But it was fun to watch it all. fitness conference Main Menu"}]}]}