{"conf": "media", "generated_at": "2026-04-26T08:00:02.954878Z", "threads": [{"num": 0, "subject": "", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 1, "subject": "introductions please", "response_count": 74, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "rikam", "date": "Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (23:11)", "body": "Angie here. I like to see discussions on different magazine articles,recommend- ed reading, and tutorals. My interests are SF, The internet, and graphics."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 23, 1996 (04:03)", "body": "The previous incarnation of the Spring had a real good sf conference, mixu (the Finnish eccentric) liked the term \"speculative fiction\" as opposed to science fiction. So that's what we called it."}, {"response": 3, "author": "joshd", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 1996 (23:36)", "body": "Hello, all! I'm Josh Daniel, an associate editor at Texas Monthly. At TM I'm in charge of editing Around the State, our event listings. I also edit one or two longer pieces--departments and features--each month and write stories. Most recently, I profiled EFF counsel Mike Godwin for the September 96 Texas Twenty issue. I'm also, I confess, something of a media junkie."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 1996 (04:23)", "body": "I just talked to Mike at the EFF Legal Issues conference the other day. He was in town from Northern California to give a talk at this conference. In fact, I have some videotape of Mikes talk. Josh, do you do any Internet/Web reporting or is that strictly Joe Nick's bailiwick?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "joshd", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 1996 (14:19)", "body": "I've done some high-tech stuff, mostly consumer-oriented. So far we've done relatively little trend reporting and focused mostly on products--I've written up four or five boxes in the past 18 months on great Texas-centric Web sites and a few more on CD-ROMs made in Texas. I've also written about AudioNet, a Real Audio-based company in Dallas, and Girl Games, an Austin company. My profile of Godwin (available here ) is an example of the kind of thing I'd like to do more often: reporting on important netizens."}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct  4, 1996 (20:40)", "body": "Hola, all: I'm the kitchen manger of a really good Italian restaurant here in Austin. I've also helped out with some small press publications, including one of my own, and some web publishing. As far as topics for the conference, I would suggest one on contacts, especially for DIY projects. I'll be by again soon, WER"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct  6, 1996 (12:01)", "body": "What are some of your web projects? And what is DIY?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Oct  9, 1996 (18:25)", "body": "Unfortunately, I don't have my own computer, so most of my projects are collaborative and very scattered. As for DIY, it stands for Do It Yourself. For a listing of projects and etcetera go to http://www.well.com/user/soapbox/eglobal.html and to http://www.realtime.net/~abner/ for some examples of my work scattered throughout his pages. Well, talk to ya'll soon WER"}, {"response": 9, "author": "joshd", "date": "Fri, Nov  1, 1996 (02:10)", "body": "WER, I've set up the Media conference so anyone can start a topic. So feel free to start up one on small-press contacts and DIY projects."}, {"response": 10, "author": "shannon", "date": "Sat, Nov 23, 1996 (22:29)", "body": "I just came by to visit. I am interested in media of all types. I produce a few newsletters on a local level. I am also interested in graphics and multimedia. I presently work for an internet service provider on the tech support line but expect to be producing material for them later."}, {"response": 11, "author": "joshd", "date": "Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (03:55)", "body": "Welcome, Shannon! What kind of newsletters do you produce?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "ozzie", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (12:42)", "body": "Hi! I'm an advertising consultant for my local community newspaper, The Wollongong Advertiser, and have been involved in press advertising for about 15 years. I'm very interested to see how the Net is going to affect advertising revenue, not so much for my own newspaper, but for the larger papers and magazines. I'm also curious as to what is happening with regard to advertising on the Net, especially with standards, censorship etc. by the way, this is my first visit to your site - how do I know if anyone has responded to my input??? Silly question - how will I get the answer to my question??? I guess I just keep checking this page - is that right???"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (16:34)", "body": "The Stroud site that links to here has huge ad revenues and we're about to take on a venture with a print magazine that will hopefully bring us some ad revenue. I'll have to think about your question on standards and censorship, these are pretty big topics. We may need to start these topics up."}, {"response": 14, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (18:05)", "body": "Hi ! My Name is Bob Wilbert and this is my first visit to Spring.com . I had posted an intro in a forum at electric minds and recieved a reponse from Terry Walhus which suggested this site. I am interested in all aspects of advertising on the net I read recently (sorry, I can't remember where) that advertising revenues for the net will exceed 100 million$ this year which is about a threefold increase from 1995. If this is correct, it sounds as though the commercial aspects of the net are just starting to take off. BW"}, {"response": 15, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (21:01)", "body": "Welcome Glynis and Bob! I think Net advertising can only sustain itself if Net commerce takes off. In other words, advertising depends in the end on consumers who spend $$, and if people don't feel comfortable spending money over the Net, I don't imagine that Net advertising will keep up the pace it's enjoyed so far. Glynis, to check for repsonses, keep coming back to the Spring! From the Main Menu, you can add the Media conference (or any other) to your conference list. Then every time you log on to the Spring, you'll see if there are any topics with new responses (the left-hand column) or any new topics (the right-hand column)."}, {"response": 16, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (21:13)", "body": "Also, if you'd like to start a topic on Net advertising, feel free. Let me know if you have any problems doing this, but it should be pretty clear from the Media conference page."}, {"response": 17, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (16:40)", "body": "Josh : I appreciate your point but according to the latest survey by Frost & Sullivan (Oct96) net advertising now comprises 3.4% of the total ad dollars spent and projections are for growth to 22.2% or 5.8 BILLION dollars by 2002. Bob"}, {"response": 18, "author": "joshd", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (16:52)", "body": "Well, I certainly hope that pans out. I was just saying I think that kind of growth won't continue unless certain things happen. I hope they do. Bob, I encourage you to start an advertising topic here in Media!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (17:14)", "body": "Welcome sunspot, what types of commerce are you engaging in on the net and what types of tools have you found useful?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (18:08)", "body": "Paul, I am currently in a startup business called the Louisville Internet Yellow Pages. It is area specific rather than taking an nationwide or global approach. We will be employing sales persons to actively solicit the business community and promote their products and companies through advertising in our yellow pages. It is being modeled after the printed yellow pages which is involving a tad bit more sophistication in our servers and database setup than we had originally planned so we are not currently online We expect to be up and running by mid December. As far as the tools I find useful, I like Net Objects fusion for web page creation and I also use Front Page. For our Database management we are currently using Access and Back Stage Manager. Bob"}, {"response": 21, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (18:11)", "body": "Josh: I would love to if I can find the time. Bob"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (18:16)", "body": "You're using FrontPage, great. I would like to point out that we have a FrontPage topic in the apps conference. Does the server you connect to have the FrontPage extensions installed. I have fond memories of Louisville. I had about a dozen color photos published in the Courier Journals Sunday magazine called \"The Face of Guatemala\". Barry Bingham Jr. commissioned this photo essay and paid for a few weeks of traveland film."}, {"response": 23, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (18:28)", "body": "Paul : Yes they have the extensions. A few bugs at first but smooth sailing now. You should try Louisville Derby week if you like to party. Bob"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (20:04)", "body": "Been there!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (22:34)", "body": "Got here the way sunspot did, through Electric Minds and Terry. I write for trade mags and some others, am a correspondent and feature writer for an area daily, and put out newsletters and broadsides for clients. I am finishing up my first hardcover (case bound) book, typeset with PageMaker, printed out on a laser printer, reproduced with a Xerox 5328, bound with a bind-it thermal glue binder. Edited it for the widow of a fine hounsman (now deceased). A heck of a good read especially for people who hunt North American big game. And a heck of an adventure for me! had put out chap books before, nothing full size, with the whole ISBN and copyright stuff. Other small publishers with hints and lore to share? The DIY (Do It Tourself) guru at the Spring must be out kindred soul. I'll go look him up when I have time."}, {"response": 26, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (22:36)", "body": "Previous post. That should be \"huntsman,\" not \"hounsman.\" Why doesn't Internet Explorer have a spell-checker? It would be so helpful to the terminally spellbound, not to mention the witches, among us."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (12:55)", "body": "Welcome Martha! What subjects/topics would be of most interest to you?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Sun, Dec 22, 1996 (02:01)", "body": "I'm interested in the daily print-type news, and in electronic media. Some of us are members of what we laughingly call the working press (part-time, in my case). I see the Internet impacting the print news biz in various ways. What are others observing? I'm still a TIME reader, sometimes see Newsweek, read parts of two dailies, and lots and lots of trade mags (computer-related). And Slate-- until they start charging for it..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "joshd", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (05:28)", "body": "So far, all I've noticed is that print news seems to be printing lots of rumors that spread on the Net. That, and they tend to blame the Internet for things that happen over it. Take for instance the story in the Austin American-Statesman a few weeks ago about a male prostitution ring busted by police (don't remember where, though not in Texas). The cops found out about the ring because it advertised in the gay press. But the ring also happened to have a Web page or some such. So, of course, the headline was (paraphrased), \"Prostitution ring that advertised on Internet broken.\""}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (06:02)", "body": "I've noticed that too. I cracked up at John Madden and Pat Summerall's \"webtalk\" during the playoffs. This is a paraphrase: [commercial for superbowl.com] jm: \"that's if you know who to get there\" ps: \"you have to be someone who can dot com\" jm: \"how do you get there\" ps: \"I'd go to an airline ticket counter, those guys would know\" And on and on ... Unimaginable clueless commentary on the Internet. Well, back to more dot commming."}, {"response": 31, "author": "eizb", "date": "Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (21:56)", "body": "Hi-- I am a graduate student interested in information and communications. I stumbled across this list. Sounds neat!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (04:56)", "body": "John, welcome. Whre are you doing your grad studies?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "fuzz", "date": "Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (04:00)", "body": ""}, {"response": 34, "author": "fuzz", "date": "Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (04:03)", "body": ""}, {"response": 35, "author": "spif", "date": "Mon, May 19, 1997 (05:03)", "body": "Hello all. Looks like this particular topic needs a reawakening... My name is Bryan Venable, as you can tell from the pseud. Currently I live in the Kansas City area and work for a consulting company. I used to work for the National Institute for Computer-Assisted Reporting, a joint project of Investigative Reporters and Editors and the MU School of Journalism. I still maintain News on the Net ( http://www.reporter.org/news/) , a feature on IRE's reporter.org web site. I'm also the new host of The Spring's media conference. I hope we'll see more introductions here soon; I'd like to know more about who's here and why you're here. I'm here because Terry sent me an e-mail and indirectly reminded me I hadn't been around on the Spring in a while, and because he asked me if I wanted to host some conferences. I do. I'm also here because I'm very interested in media and in \"the\" media - the people and organizations that produce, collect and distribute information and enter ainment via all sorts of methods, from print to television to the web. I think the media and education are possibly the two most influential institutions in the modern world, and as a result I'm intensely interested in how they work and where they're going."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 19, 1997 (05:07)", "body": "There really aren't very many folks here now. But I feel like there a lot of folks out there like yourself who potentially would enjoy using a system with the same interface and structure as the WELL without the costs. Perhaps you could offer some suggestions to go about pumping things up around here. From one Mizzou boy to another."}, {"response": 37, "author": "hummie", "date": "Fri, Jun 20, 1997 (20:39)", "body": "weirdly enough this is the cleanest looking online conf system i've seen so far, including salon, nytimes etc ad nauseum. i burned out on the SF bay area online conf scene (well, river, eMinds) with the exception of construct.net/ over the last year or so. i felt it was badly in need of a paradigm shift. i think it is possible i will be migrating to the south soon, maybe new orleans. i'm a writer and a classical musician, & work as a web strategy analyst in a corporate headquarters, & moonlight as a college teacher. i've written for mondo, fringeware review, whole earth review, a few books and lots of web sites. there does not appear to be a boyscout \"nice\" pledge on this site, which is good as it did not incite my rebel streak. nice job, terry..."}, {"response": 38, "author": "legaffe", "date": "Fri, Sep  5, 1997 (12:24)", "body": "HI, I'm George. Welcome humdog."}, {"response": 39, "author": "crazyj", "date": "Wed, Oct 15, 1997 (15:16)", "body": "Hi, I'm CrazyJ, the craziest chick from the West. I'm interested in going into magazine publishing when I'm released from college at U of Michigan...Got any job offers for me??? No, anyway, I came here because of my interest in technology and the fact that my professor's staring over my shoulder..."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 15, 1997 (18:16)", "body": "\"released\", will they assign you a parole officer? Just kidding. No, there are some magazine editor and magazine writer types that hang around here from time to time, most notably some folks from Texas Monthly. We're trying to attract more folks in the magazine industry to use the Spring for their discussions. Glad you're joining us, you crazy gal."}, {"response": 41, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (05:24)", "body": "Me, too. WER"}, {"response": 42, "author": "TIM", "date": "Sun, Nov 15, 1998 (21:32)", "body": "Did crazyJ ever get released?"}, {"response": 43, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (16:55)", "body": "Well, this conferemce looks like it could stand some Alexandering-up! How about having the superstar-topic in the music conference guest-starring here? superstar is, after all, a print magazine on things music. How about it?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (21:57)", "body": "How about it! I say hell yes!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 13, 1999 (05:24)", "body": "or, make a whole new topic in here entitled, \"Submissions for SUPERSTAR\" just a thought..."}, {"response": 46, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (09:38)", "body": "Well, Terry, can you please put superstar up here, too (so it's the same topic as in the music conference, I know you can do this! ;=} )? Wer, yeah, why not also do a place where people can offer me ideas and stories - but then, hmh, maybe not. If anybody has a good idea, let 'em mail me. I have experienced that it's best to do these things with a bit less public attention. It's bad, if it e.g. somehow leaks, you'd run a big articles on person X, but this flops for various reasons, so it's delayed infinitely, etc. Better to do this in private. Less disappointment on all sides."}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (06:20)", "body": "it's your show, baby, I was just thinking in type..."}, {"response": 48, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (13:44)", "body": "Thanks Terry! Wer, what's thinking in type? Isn't that when you have all these letters in your head? Puzzled, Alexander."}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "were's jsut doing his Dick Vitale impression, baybeeeee...."}, {"response": 50, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (13:11)", "body": "Who's Dick Vitaonethingoranother? Oh, another cultur gap hitting me hard! Arrrrrgh!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (17:51)", "body": "He's a hyper basketball announcer, famous for adding baybeeee to every sentence. And I mean hyper."}, {"response": 52, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 17, 1999 (13:33)", "body": "Thanks for enlightening me, baybeeee!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (05:33)", "body": "since you're reading my words, I figured thinking in type was more contextually correct(?) than thinking out loud..."}, {"response": 54, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (16:17)", "body": "*grin* Yeah, your quite the type to put it this way, too! *wider grin*"}, {"response": 55, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (05:26)", "body": "(think we've adequately intro'd ourselves yet?)"}, {"response": 56, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (11:43)", "body": "(Uuh, yeah, ah - sorry, right. So, what foolishness is next on our agenda, sir?)"}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (19:58)", "body": "(my thoughts exactly!)"}, {"response": 58, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (20:14)", "body": "(the beginning of a wonderful friendship? Hey, different topic, how come it's like just you, Terry and me these days outside of drool. What happened to everybody?)"}, {"response": 59, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 20, 1999 (05:43)", "body": "Stacey's cruising Europe, Riette is in Africa, Autumn and Wolf have both been popping in and out of here, Ray is on assignment in a different town, etcetera, etcetera...we go through periods like this...hang on, everyone will return!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr  7, 1999 (22:42)", "body": "Aha! I have figured it out! WER and Alexander are the same person. Alter egos... The right brain and the back o the brain (neither persona strikes me as left brained... au contraire!) Makes sense too... WER sitting in the dark, talking/ARGUEING with himself... calling himself names yet really loving that inner child... deep deep down... ('cept I can't figure out which persona is the inner child. One must be the innie and the other the outie!)"}, {"response": 61, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (06:21)", "body": "ooh...that's gotta be it!!!!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (16:18)", "body": "which are you ???"}, {"response": 63, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (19:05)", "body": "I'm the other guy."}, {"response": 64, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (19:50)", "body": "oh, i see..."}, {"response": 65, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (19:43)", "body": "I would like regulars of this conference invite to visit the International Conflicts conference here on the Spring: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/InternationalConflicts/all This conference is dedicated to the disputes between groups all over the world, be that social, cultural, political or ethnical differences."}, {"response": 66, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (16:52)", "body": "he would like to extend the invitation to all the irregulars, as well..."}, {"response": 67, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "isn't it one-size fits all?"}, {"response": 68, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (16:59)", "body": "if you intrinsically want it to fit..."}, {"response": 69, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (19:08)", "body": "Ha!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (19:40)", "body": "Ah..."}, {"response": 71, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (14:42)", "body": "So, will you now check that out more thouroughly OR WHAT! NOW! Also please investigate the B92-topic in this conference and point more people to it. B92 is anti-Milosevic, and got MTV's \"Free Your Mind\"-award for their work. Support B92!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:27)", "body": "John, remind me to bring a short wave receiver to the Volleyball Tournament histhis weekend. We need to support B92 like Alexander suggests. (You ARE going to the tournament, are you not?)"}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (19:22)", "body": "Tell us about your volleyball activities! Are you and John on the same team, Marcia?"}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (20:49)", "body": "*lol* Terry...if you could only see us...you would have your answer. SOMEONE has to sit in the stands, do commentary and sell T-shirts. The last is my calling. John is one of the former or just a bleacher creature. It is the opening tournament of the UH Hilo Wahine Volleyball season, and teams statewide come to play. It should be lots of fun to watch and compare the Freshmen in their first college tournament with how they perform at the end of the season. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 10, "subject": "Texas Monthly", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (17:16)", "body": "Josh, do you have any comments on what Texas Monthly is up to these days. Go ahead, engage in shameless self promotion!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (21:06)", "body": "Hmmm. I can remind everyone that the annual Bum Steer Awards issue will be out in January (actually on newsstands in late December). The Bum Steers issue always does well for us, and this year will be no exception--I promise."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:12)", "body": "Who were some of the winners last year? Bum Phillips? media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 11, "subject": "media forays by springeurs", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (18:10)", "body": "Joe Nick of Texas Monthly recently did a piece on Texas top 100 websites and was seen at Borders in Austin at a panel discussion."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep  4, 2000 (20:49)", "body": "Aloha all, This URL sounds seriously better than WEBRADIO for listening to KWXX. Much better audio quality, less buffering. We also hope to have KNWB-FM on it soon. I am on from 6 am to noon Saturday and 6 to 10 am Sunday HST on KWXX (6 to 10 am M-F and 6 am to noon Sat. on KNWB, which, unfortunately, is pre-recorded, or voice-tracked for you \"industry folks\"). Since recipients of this e-mail live in several different time zones you need to do the math if you care to listen. AOL users need to cut and paste URL. You may also need Windows Media Player. http://www.streamaudio.com/listen?station=KWXX John Burnett"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (06:24)", "body": "Is this still on at the same time? media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 12, "subject": "MSNBC", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 13, "subject": "Scams, spams and other sleaze on the web", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (19:16)", "body": "A very insidious recent scam via email, look out for this one: From: NORMAN KING Organization: Internet Registration Committee To: various lists on the Net Subject: IMPORTANT NOTICE! IMPORTANT NOTICE! Dear Sirs, It Has Recently Come To The Attention Of The Internet Registration Committee That The Majority Of The Web-Sites Now On The Internet Have Not Been Properly Registered With The Proper Directories And Search Engines Now Operating On The Internet And The World Wide Web. Failure To Properly Register A Web Site Could Result In The Loss Of Potential Customers Being Unable To Locate Your Particular Web-Site On The World Wide Web. Proper Web-Site Registration On The Internet Is Required In Order For Your Web-Site To Be Successful. There Are Currently More Than 400 Hundred Internet Directories And Search Engines Operating On The Internet. It Will Be Necessary For You To Register Your Web-Site With The Majority Of These Directories And Search Engines In Order For Your Web-Site To Become Easily Located By Your Potential Customers. If You Do Not Become Registered With A Large Number Of These Internet Directories, Your Web Site Could Become Impossible For Your Customers To Locate, Your Web-Site Will Become Inaccessible, Therefore Becoming Dormant, Unprofitable And Inactive. In Order To Resolve This Situation, We Urge You To Contact Our Web-Site Registration Service At The Internet Address Below By Clicking Your Mouse On This Link: http://adgrafix.com/mail/irs.html It Is Imperative That This Situation Be Resolved Immediately! We Hope That We Can Help You To Resolve Your Registration Problem As Soon As Possible. Thank-You, Sincerely, NORMAN KING - Administrator Internet Registration Service Watch our for this scam! media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 14, "subject": "Connected", "response_count": 2, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "rikam", "date": "Mon, Sep 23, 1996 (00:00)", "body": "Visit their Web site at http://www.techconnected.com"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (13:54)", "body": "Who is the TechConnected Editor now? media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 15, "subject": "Local TV News", "response_count": 10, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "joshd", "date": "Wed, Nov 13, 1996 (16:53)", "body": "What's with all the \"porn\" stories on local news suddenly? Is it sweeps time? KXAN, I believe, is running \"Generation X-Rated\" features all week long. No, I'm not making that up. And last night KVUE-24 ran a story about a woman who was \"terrorized\" by someone who repeatedly dumped pornographic material on her lawn. I thought the story had some merit, but they couldn't have played it more cheesily if they'd tried. The suspect works at a state agency and supposedly downloaded images from the Net, then copied them using a machine at work. KVUE had speeded-up reenactments of some faceless person making copies. It was about the silliest thing I've seen in quite a while."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 13, 1996 (19:58)", "body": "I bounce back and forth between KVUE, KXAN and KEYE news. They all seem to be into a race as to who can have the sexiest doppler radar on the Internet. I keep telling them that one of them needs to align with the Spring for conferencing. I was even on the line with KTBC a little while ago who is about to launch their entry into the website sweepstakes."}, {"response": 3, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Nov 14, 1996 (15:57)", "body": "I think KXAN has had a site for quite a while, tho I've never been. Anyone else been there?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 14, 1996 (16:43)", "body": "Yes, I was introduced to it by Larry Brill. They pretty much took the lead from their sister station in Dallas and are gradually taking over their own content production."}, {"response": 5, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Nov 14, 1996 (22:21)", "body": "So what do we think about KVUE's policy on crime coverage? (i.e., their refusal to run with just any crime story; it has to meet one of six or so criteria.)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 1996 (01:24)", "body": "What are the criteria?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "jonl", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 1996 (05:12)", "body": "yeah, I second that..."}, {"response": 8, "author": "joshd", "date": "Tue, Nov 19, 1996 (21:57)", "body": "Oooh, damn. I knew someone was going to ask that. I don't know all of them. One is \"significant impact,\" which seems like their catch-all. Another is \"take action,\" or something. One might be \"threat to children.\" You can tell I'm really up on this stuff. The GM of KVUE, who is a friend of mine, tells me they're not really doing anything different from the way they used to cover crime. They've always had criteria, he says, but now they tell you what they are. Not that I remember them, obviously."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 20, 1996 (01:22)", "body": "I would rank the tv stations local news coverage subjectively: 1. KEYE 7 2. KVUE 24 3. KXAN 36 4. KTBC 42 For national news : 1. ABC - KVUE 24 2. CBS - KEYE 7 3. PBS - KLRU 18 4. NBC - KXAN 36 5. FOX - KTBC 42 I hope I got all those affiliations right. How you others rank the local news? How would you rank the local news websites?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "joshd", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (14:35)", "body": "OK, according to Dec. 10 American-Statesman, the five criteria KVUE uses for reporting crimes are: Does the crime represent a threat to children? Threat to public safety? Significant impact on the community? Will people need to take action? Is there an aspect of crime prevention? And now KEYE (the Fox affiliate) is running spot \"editorials\" questioning why KVUE didn't immediately report on a shooting in Zilker Park last week. KVUE responds that police assured them the crime didn't represent a threat to public safety, so they didn't go with it. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 16, "subject": "Capitol City Arts and Entertainment", "response_count": 4, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (13:38)", "body": "Issue number two should hit the stands, I won't give away the cover, but it's a beauty."}, {"response": 2, "author": "ozzie", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (12:49)", "body": "I just tried to go to \"next conf\" or \"next topic\" from here and was told that there was a config error and to let you know. So I've come back to let you know."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (16:37)", "body": "It's a good idea to report this stuff in the 'yapp' conference where we fix these kinds of things. I'll check this out. Thanks for letting me know."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (13:55)", "body": "j capcity Capitol City Arts now has it's own *conference*. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 17, "subject": "Spellcheck - Josh Daniel", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (17:13)", "body": "Josh has his own item now! Holy cow. Are you making fun?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (21:08)", "body": "Well, if (ozzie) is making fun, my typing deserves it! Now I'm off to figure out where that typo is..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (21:15)", "body": "OK, I found it. But my browser is causing problems, and I can't seem to fix it. By the way, ozzie--no sub-editors here! And there aren't any copy editors in sight either, except that I used to be one. Sub editor? You wouldn't be European or Australian, would you?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:13)", "body": "Aussie perhaps."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 27, 1999 (04:57)", "body": "I bought spell check for my Eudora, WordPad, AOL 3.0 (W 3.1 laptop) and assorted other uses. The only place I really need it that it does not work is here and on my Instant Messages for Non-AOL users. Any suggestions?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 27, 1999 (04:59)", "body": "Oops, its correct name is AutoSpell 5.3.3 1996 edition. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 18, "subject": "Ramble", "response_count": 49, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (23:59)", "body": "I've been holed up here all day but I don't have cabin fever. I love it at my place. It's night time. Outside it's drizzling. I've been building new boxes to put on the net, reading, studying and writing today. The evening news is on the tube. I feel like making a pot of coffee. I keep getting a box on my screen that says my outbox in Microsoft Mail is damaged. My outbox is empty! I got some interesting email from Elizabeth Gipps, an old friend today. And that's part of my world tonight."}, {"response": 2, "author": "Saman", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (00:02)", "body": "I can't believe I'm actually doing this - I usually steer clear of such threads :). But then this has not been a typical day! I baked muffins for the first time in my life (my mother is slightly obsessive about anyone cooking in her kitchen, but she's w orking at the moment) and they were a success. Hey I'm doing better than the Bennet girls - they couldn't cook. I also just got rudely interrupted from my spring-browsing by a door-to-door salesman wanting to give me a voucher for 20 free meals - only I'd have to pay $30 for it! I blame Neil Finn for it all. Huh? I hear you say. Mr Finn was lead vocalist for Crowded House - my all-time favourite band who announced they were breaking up in June. Their final charity concert on the steps of the Sydney Opera House was televised he re on Sunday, and I'm am currently slowly working my way through a grieving process involving contimuous playing of all my Crowded House CDs - maybe that's why the salesman looked happy to depart. Top that people!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (00:08)", "body": "Tough to top. The only rule in this topic is that are no rules and that you can talk about anything and everything . Total free form."}, {"response": 4, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (00:58)", "body": "During my one excursion outside, I acquired a stud finder and 16 yards of unbleached muslin. Prize for the most creative use of these wares."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (01:20)", "body": "Hope you find that stud. I'm kicked back watching the music awards on Fox. And I'm scanning in some ancient family photos of my Norwegian relatives in Minnesota. I'm building sort of a family album web page for my folks and family at Christmas. It's my life story too. Dishwalla's playing on the tube."}, {"response": 6, "author": "elder", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (02:47)", "body": "Moody Blues boxed set CD is playing (the poetry is a bit surreal), and I just finished making up an algebra exam to give to my students tomorrow. I have not had time to browse here since Saturday evening, and I must say that I have missed all of you. I skipped (church) choir rehearsal to relax this evening, so I suppose I feel a bit guilty. Saman, congrats on the muffins. It has been an absolute age since I used my kitchen stoves to do anything other than heat soup or cook frozen dinners! As soon as the semester is over, I will go to San Diego for a week over Christmas -- mom and one brother's family out there. I plan to take the S&S video to share w/ mom."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (03:23)", "body": "Moody Blues. Santana was just on the music awards getting the Century Billboard award. Only George Harrison and three others have ever won this award. Still scanning pictures and working on some website proposals. I've got 4 computers hooked up to a switchbox here and I'm flipping from one to another. Bastrop Internet Services is working on building up the new server, I popped another 20mb of memory in it last night and Scott's putting NT 4.0 on it. I don't know if it's back on line yet. Their website is http://www.bastrop.net Tomorrow, Matt is going to build up a new primary server to replace http://access.spring.com which bit the dust. I got a 2mb hard drive to replace the 1 gigger that went down. The rains have past. It's quiet out in Cedar Creek, like it always is. I wonder what Amy's doing tonight."}, {"response": 8, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (09:41)", "body": "Amy slept for a change -- but awoke at 4 am"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (12:13)", "body": "Good morning Amy, it's 6 am here and you've already been up for two hours, are you ever bright eyed and bushy tailed today! I'm going in to Austin today to take care of lots of business and things that are piling up. I've got to get that contract going with Texaltel (see projects) and get that machine to Matt (to replace the server that crashed) and a bunch of friends are meeting at pub on 6th street tonight. We had some interesting comments in one of the NetMeeting topics yesterday (not the one that's linked to here) and you may want to check them out in the 'apps' conference. Did you know that if you hit the 'enter' key twice that you will get a menu here if you're in a shell? But only about half the menus work so far. I'm writing shell scripts to do a whole bunch of things. Is anyone here good at writing shell scripts?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (17:33)", "body": "Even though I won't be online for the next 8 hours. I left my microphone aimed at my radio. So you may be able to hear me talking to other folks if you connect to me on NetMeeting."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (17:34)", "body": "Here are some of the pictures I scanned: http://www.spring.com/~terry/albumjpg/ And me as a baby: http://www.spring.com/~terry/albumjpg/terry2.JPG"}, {"response": 12, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (01:49)", "body": "I have to start making Christmas cookies and wrapping presents. I would like to get most of this done while my \"the little angels\" are in school. I will be very busy during the morning hours. Every year I say I will not go crazy but every YEAR we do. Oh w ell, \"tis the seasons to be joLly, fa,la,la,la,la,la,la\" * *** ***** ******* ********* *********** *** ***"}, {"response": 13, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (01:58)", "body": "1 \"Merry Christmas\" 232 \"Happy New Year\" 34443 4555544 566666665 67777777776 7888888888887 101"}, {"response": 14, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (01:59)", "body": "I guess half a tree is better then none. HO! HO!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "Anna", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (02:37)", "body": "HO!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:28)", "body": "I have to make it down to see the tree of lights in Zilker Park. See my comments in the food conference about my wonderful dinner tonight."}, {"response": 17, "author": "mich", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:51)", "body": "I'm having a hard time finding any holiday spirit this year. I usually enjoy gift giving and all the events but Novemeber has worn me out. Someone remind me what's it like to have a life outside of work. Donna, could you pls send a little of your xmas spirit my way? I'm in grave need. Mich"}, {"response": 18, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (05:03)", "body": "Sure Mich, no, problem it will be a \"surprise\""}, {"response": 19, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (19:45)", "body": "D'Arcy or Pemberley shape cookies anyone ? Donna, you already got some gifts ? Got to get them before the usual 24-hour-prior-to-Xmas-day. And it is a major plus to have kids, they really put you in the spirit don't they. Almost no choice but to feel it. My trick for the past years, particularly when all I had was a job and friends at the other corner of the earth, was to give time to needy causes (filling baskets of food. Nothing like seeing a two/three year old receiving is only plush teddy. Even if my situation as quite change, I remained faithfull to this commitment and it makes me feel great. Sending you my warmest wishes of joy and happiness, mich."}, {"response": 20, "author": "cat", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (00:40)", "body": "Not a good day today. Two girls in my homeroom were making fun of my friend Tara because she is skinny and short. They called her a Balemic Monkey (I dan't know if thats spellled right). They spread nasty rumors about her for absolutly no reason. They threw her books in the garbage, STOLE a few of her belongings, and on top of all that they threw away her BIBLE!! I am sooooooo pissed off right now. We also lost our game by ONE piont. It was a good game. I am not going to get any sleep tonite becaus John has invited 4 friends to sleep over. They are all loud and abnoxious (forgive spelling)."}, {"response": 21, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (02:18)", "body": "Cat, hope you were able to give Tara some support and comfort. At a time like that one really needs one's friends. Insecure young people can be so hard on one another. (And some of them never do grow out of it and become Caroline Bingleys!)"}, {"response": 22, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (05:27)", "body": "They should have a class in grade school/high school to teach people how to to love each other"}, {"response": 23, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (05:38)", "body": "But Donna, I believe that this is what parents are for?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (15:34)", "body": "Cheryl sometimes that is not enough."}, {"response": 25, "author": "cat", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (00:01)", "body": "People can just be so nasty to each other it disgusting! Tara was hysterical all day yesterday! I feel so bad as if I've done something awful. I feel so helpless! I want to comfort her but I can't. She is too upset. Things like this have been going on since fifth grade with her! I thought people in their last year of high school would at least be mature enough not to do that sort of thing. I hope she can forgive them. I hope I can forgive them. It is times like this to where the only way I can f rgive is when I look back and remember what Jesus did for me. Even though we laughed at Him, spat on Him, beat Him, and even killed the Messiah, the son of God, He asked His Father to forgive us all. He could have just jumped off that cross and destroye d all mankind with the snap of a finger but He didn't. He did not want to die but He loved us all so much. He wanted us to be with Him in paradise when we leave our earthly bodies. We do not deserve His love, but He gives it willingly. For those who a e offended by this message I am sorry for invading your beliefs."}, {"response": 26, "author": "cat", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (00:01)", "body": "People can just be so nasty to each other it disgusting! Tara was hysterical all day yesterday! I feel so bad as if I've done something awful. I feel so helpless! I want to comfort her but I can't. She is too upset. Things like this have been going on since fifth grade with her! I thought people in their last year of high school would at least be mature enough not to do that sort of thing. I hope she can forgive them. I hope I can forgive them. It is times like this to where the only way I can f rgive is when I look back and remember what Jesus did for me. Even though we laughed at Him, spat on Him, beat Him, and even killed the Messiah, the son of God, He asked His Father to forgive us all. He could have just jumped off that cross and destroye d all mankind with the snap of a finger but He didn't. He did not want to die but He loved us all so much. He wanted us to be with Him in paradise when we leave our earthly bodies. We do not deserve His love, but He gives it willingly. For those who a e offended by this message I am sorry for invading your beliefs."}, {"response": 27, "author": "cat", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (00:02)", "body": "I thought I hit that button once. Sorry."}, {"response": 28, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (00:56)", "body": "I spent the night waiting in a hospital emergency room....the victim is home and doing well, but meanwhile, I now feel like I am the one who need a doctor's care..... in an unrelated incident, I hit someone's car (black ice...nothing I could do)....my son 's snake is loose in the basement (Indiana Jones and I have similar feelings about vipers;I am contemplating a move to the Hilton)....I have to turn out a shepherd costume for my son by Monday or the PTA gestapo will come after me......On Sunday, I must s epherd a bunch of cub scouts carolling at a nursing home; only threats of bodily harm will get them to behave like angels(Hope the elderly won't notice the 'Batman smells' version of Jingle Bells).....my house looks like a sewer....by way of holiday decor ating,I'm thinking of stringing lights on the pumpkins that have frozen to the front porch......and friends keep wondering why I spit at the TV every time an ad for the Martha Stewart Christmas special comes on. Sorry to ramble, but just wanted to let you know it has been a typical week in the House of Grace. Ho, Ho, Ho! P.S. Amy, if you really want to find that stud, I would advise AGAINST using all 16 yards of the muslin....try working with 2 or 3 yards to make some low-cut little number that will hammer home the right message....be sure to wear that WonderBra (or if y ou don't have one, duct tape works the same kind of Wonders) ;-)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (01:17)", "body": "] I hit someone's car (black ice...nothing I could do)... ___ Oh Grace. How awful for you. Do treat yourself to the Hilton. Why not? And popcorn and champaign and P&P tomorrow. Can I come over?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (01:46)", "body": "Oh dear, Grace! Who is the \"victim\" and of what, if the black ice was an unrelated incident? ANd what variety of snake is loose? Fear not - in general, many snakes make very good pets and many others are of an extremely shy and retiring character and u nlikely to do anything to anyone unless provoked. When in junior high I was one of a group of kids who \"volunteered\" at the museum, and among our duties were, every two weeks, if there were no live mice available with which to feed the snakes, to force-f ed them hamburger, which they would not eat on their own, preferring their food alive. So two of us took on each snake, one holding the mouth open and the other poking the hamburger inside - then we had to hold its mouth shut till it swallowed the bite. The experience really stripped the poor snakes of all dignity and ability to inspire fear. Joan, too"}, {"response": 31, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (02:40)", "body": "Joan, the victim of last night's hospital escapade was my husband....he had gone to a Detroit Pistons game and was done in by a hot dog.....a piece lodged in his esophagus.......only with an ambulance, drugs, and a surgeon now behind us,and the victim fee ling much better, can I even dream of talking about the whole thing. (My husband was at the game with friends, one of whom is a thoracic surgeon and the other, a pediatrician. I'm left to wonder where they were during this whole thing!) My husband is a man of few words but because of this incident, those few are down to NONE, and he has to lecture on Monday. My son assures me that the snake missing from his collection is a milk snake...but I think this is a conspiracy to paint images of some benign creature hiding down there rather than a horrible lurking monster. (I am the only person on the block with cans of carnivorous snake food and freeze-dried crickets in her refrigerator - Woe to the guest innocently looking for a midnight snack.) Be assured that we are all now doing well.....and the HIlton says they do offer special rates for extended stays. Grace"}, {"response": 32, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (05:40)", "body": "Re: 59:31 - what a nasty and scary experience. One would have thought that in the company he was in, he'd have been in good hands! My husband is a man of few words but because of this incident, those few are down to NONE, and he has to lecture on Monday.\" Hopefully the swelling will have gone down at least somewhat by then. And if not, tell him to borrow a PowerBook, feed it a SimpleText textfile and let MacInTalk read it for him. [grin] I am the only person on the block with cans of carnivorous snake food and freeze-dried crickets in her refrigerator For a year or two I had siamese fighting fish, and was the only one on my block with live brine shrimp tubifex worms in my refrigerator. Equally disgusting- especially the tubifex worms! Joan, too"}, {"response": 33, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (03:54)", "body": "You beat me to it with the muslin, Grace. I'm glad you and your husband are okay."}, {"response": 34, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (13:22)", "body": "About beating you to it with the muslin, Hilary.......I couldn't help myself; Amy gave us an opening that was 'sew' inviting. (By the way,I threw in the duct tape just to please you.) If I had been smart, I would have gotten Amy to whip up my shepherd costume with the extra yardage and send it by overnight mail. The family survived a difficult week....I was just beginning to feel optimistic about life again.....and then I went to that party last night at the home of a Martha Stewart clone...... which was enough to plunge this hapless homemaker into endless depres sion! So begins another week."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (13:35)", "body": "I'm off to work this morning. I had a nice weekend. We had very pleasant weather here in Austin. I started topic 82 in hopes that some of you will email folks that are interested in the Spring. If you find someone to your liking in topic 82, please email them and let them know they are most welcome here on the Spring. This would be most appreciated. I finished tape one of P&P and am part way in to tape two. I'm savoring the experience of seeing these tapes!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (20:47)", "body": "Who is Martha Stewart? Should I know? Thanks for the virtual ducktape! I should really use some round here - three of our 11 ducklings have died, probably at the beak of our drake. What we will do when we go away is a problem. Saw Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt last night. JB was enjoyable, ultra smooth, BR was WONDERFUL, great voice, fantastic blues slide electric guitar, and one raunchy lady."}, {"response": 37, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (21:06)", "body": "Martha is the US doyenne of elegant entertaining. 'She' is an empire...does TV specials, has books by the dozen, her own magazine -Martha Stewart Living, and a catalog of upscale merchandise. People either adore her, or, as in my case, live to make fun o f her. Diane White, a columnist at the Boston Globe, has for years kept up an anti-Martha campaign. Martha parody books are a hot item for Christmas around here. Jackson Browne AND Bonnie Raitt? Wow."}, {"response": 38, "author": "Anna", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (21:23)", "body": "quote for the day \"Boring Women Have Immaculate Homes\" (from my fridge magnet)"}, {"response": 39, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (22:40)", "body": "Hil, my nearly dead nap page has a Jackson Brown song as its theme song: http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wno.html"}, {"response": 40, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (22:42)", "body": "Donna, tell your story about meeting Hornsby in the music conference, and I will tell about Mellencamp? Did we not tell each other we met them while pregnant?"}, {"response": 41, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Dec  9, 1996 (23:44)", "body": "Amy, do you mean the music conference here at spring? I haven't got beyond here yet. 'Running on Empty' is a great song, BTW. Sorry it is applicable to your nap page, though. Or are you happy its run its course? Just musing that its 16 years since John Lennon died. I still get sad about it. 'And so this is Chrismas, and what have you done, Another year over, a new one just begun'.... And Joni's still ricochetting around in my head: Its coming on Christmas They're cutting down trees They're putting up reindeer And singing songs of joy and peace. I wish I had a river I could skate away on...."}, {"response": 42, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (00:46)", "body": "] Just musing that its 16 years since John Lennon died. ___ I happened to be in New York just after the murder and went to the Park for the vigil. I will never for get it."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (02:25)", "body": "I love those old Joni Mitchell songs!!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "jane", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (05:09)", "body": "Hilary, I am so glad that Martha Stewart has not poisoned Australia yet. If she stages a coup and completely takes over here (she decorated the White House last year on her Christma she knows her way around), Grace, Anna and the rest of us may have to co me and hide out at your place. Jane"}, {"response": 45, "author": "Anna", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (05:37)", "body": "Jane - I am in Australia :)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (05:52)", "body": "... at a safe distance from Martha Stewart."}, {"response": 47, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (07:07)", "body": "I am no where near even the fringe of the nieghborhood of Christmas Cheer. I have baked no cookies, I have sent no cards, I have bought no presents, I have not decorated my house (I did decorate my piano studio for my students, but that's all.) I am up to my eyeballs in Christmas in everything I do but none of it has affected me. This is the busiest time for musicians, everyone wants special Christmas programs- I have 9 more events in addition to my regularly packed schedule in the next two weeks. I a so busy \"Making Christmas Bright\" for everyone else that I have none left for myself. An occupational hazard, I know, and in the past I've always been able to rise above it, but not this year. The only day I can even see a few open hours to shop is Dec . 23, and I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about entering a mall two days before Christmas! Santa, help me!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "jane", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (15:23)", "body": "Anna, I realized after I posted my message that I was only guessing that you were within reach of Martha's clutches. That gives the rest of us another potential refulge! Cheryl, I am in a similar boat, not as busy so less of an excuse for failure to make cookies, decorate, shop. My husband is out of town this week so I am with our 2-year old--I tried to go shopping but had to chase her around, and ended up spending a few hours at the mall buying only stuff for her. But here's a shopping tip that I found out about on the Austen-L, and bought for my aunt. Blockbuster has, for $29.99, Persuasion and Sense and Sensibility packaged together. The problem is, it is probably better present for you than for anyone you know! Jane P.S. Music is such a great part of Christmas---at least you can enjoy your work!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (15:24)", "body": "It"}]}, {"num": 19, "subject": "DIY projects", "response_count": 24, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (14:55)", "body": "Welcome. Been out of writing Yeah...And? or with helping on so what? for about a year now. Hope to see some stuff out soon, finally have the muse back. See ya'll soon, WER"}, {"response": 2, "author": "joshd", "date": "Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (08:42)", "body": "Let us know when you have some stuff out! what are you working on?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (16:00)", "body": "The next issue of Yeah...And? and some religious stuff for the ULC. Also working on an on-line version of so what? Back soon, WER"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (16:52)", "body": "Yeah? So what? (I'm not being smart)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "joshd", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (23:09)", "body": "And be sure to post URLs when you have them so we can all check it out."}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 18, 1996 (15:50)", "body": "Oops, sorry. Yeah...And? is a pub we like to refer to as the egoterroristic, SubGenuine-Discordant, Guild socialistic view of life in the Italian food industry, or something. so what? is the end times survival and entertainment guide for mutants published out of Richmond, VA by the Temple of Holy Electronic Media and Unadulterated Slack. I'll be back soon with some URLs. WER"}, {"response": 7, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Sat, Dec 28, 1996 (19:53)", "body": "What religious stuff are you writing for, let's see, ULC, KitchenMan? Guess I get the other acronyms (THEM and US). Just wondering..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "CotC", "date": "Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (15:02)", "body": "BONEHEAD: HIS RELIGION AND HIS PLAN Jim would have never come to Thurgood\ufffds at all, cut off from the tribe by feral nostalgia and always barbarous -- cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity. Missionary Healer, are you really \"the flesh of His flesh\"? If you are unable to perform the duties you are assigned at the proper time, the only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain for the lawless and disobedient. Spend sufficient time passed out in the urinal confirming the need and the need will dissipate. Democracy does not guarantee equality of conditions -- it only guarantees 666 and the trend towards a cashless society subjected to a great deal of interstellar radiation (or \"cruelty\"). A large-scale informational assault is still needed. It\ufffds the job of a true preacher to torment and offend filthy fags. There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. Eliminate the non-Aryan elements who will n ver be purified because they are not Aryan to begin with. The Elder Gods looked down from Hell and were jealous of the Lord JHVH-1. We will talk more about Jesus and three separate angles of the crack of my ass with hue as red as the rosy bed WITHOUT A WORRY IN THE WORLD! \ufffdChest Excitement\ufffd at the sight of Kelly\ufffds naked singularity tits! Put the Eucharistic candles on the altar between. Inflation will then skyrocket. New candles are in the closet on the third shelf. Thus symbolic being did not depend on waiting for the right gifts to evolve. Symbolic categories are set up to control the wild and alien Falwell\ufffds Moral Majority at this time. Then why would we possibly be doing such a suicidal thing? Alice was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister on the bank, and having nothing to do. And you sure can't expect the local newspapers to send them this news. That would take thousands of years of traveling. \" The Elder gods do not `act\ufffd; the science of ethnic sensual knowledge having been effectively eradicated in terms of claims to truth or understanding.\" -- German Proverb The church is near, but the way is icy; the tavern is far, but I will walk carefully. The houses and their neighborhoods do not follow where the path may lead, resulting in a relatively gradual and painless disintegration of the industrial system because the machines they work with are infinitely more costly. This will give you even more power in the church. Is that what happened? NO! Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. Tell constricted mankind that there are no rules. Not even this sentence: \ufffdGOAT'S ASS!! DO IT NOW WOMAN, OR FACE MY WRATH!!\ufffd Mom looked at me and laughed. Japanese Phonetic \ufffdbo\ufffd (Think about that! It takes some real research to understand). For what purpose is humanity being taught? There are no answers, only cross references. GOD'S PLAN FOR THE LAW: vaccinations for half of Kenya. Americans would be repulsed if they could see the homosexuality community. Cassirer (1955) phrased it this way. Then I took one out and he ran around in circles (well-behaved heterosexual dullard). Nature yields nothing without ceremonies. Massive protest gets little media coverage (and part of that wrath is the destruction of innocent people like the Chinese Chaos-bird). Anything these people touch they inevitably pollute. My entire factory became a huge Fucktard orgy. You may reapply if there is a change in your circum-stances. Time is running short. Meanwhile we're living in the era of the Conservative backlash. What about you, Louis Lingg? It is beating hard in your hand until slowly it slumps down, merely swinging back and forth in isolation. On the confines of earth it was permitted to rest. I arranged to have Bill meet with a certified psychologist that I occasionally use to perform pus discharge. It tickles th t much. Fish smell better. But not everyone feels that way. The only difference is that this time I remain the \"MOST RUGGEDLY HETEROSEXUAL MAN ALIVE.\""}, {"response": 10, "author": "CotC", "date": "Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (15:07)", "body": "...or something... abner@bga.com lives again"}, {"response": 11, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (05:48)", "body": "Oh, Kitchen, I should have figured long ago - you ARE with Bob, right?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (05:48)", "body": "Oh, Kitchen, I should have figured long ago - you ARE with \"Bob\", right?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (14:01)", "body": "\"Bob\" is a good tool to use at times, yes..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (14:16)", "body": "Ever had any serious face time with one of the Foundation folks in Dallas?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (23:46)", "body": "My daughter was \"bob\"tized by Stang himself, does that count?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Mar 20, 1999 (03:19)", "body": "Ought to. Since this is the media topic, it may be adequate to point out that superstar #12 was planned to be the \"End of the World\"-issue, with lots of wisdom in it. I wanted them in there, too (I wanted to do a big story on them for the last three years, but didn't get it past the \"wanting\"-state...). Just I had a hard time getting infos from Dallas; they seem to be very busy people (aren't we all?), who are not in dire need of publicity. I might retry to round up the bits I have; #13 will be out June 17th (I think), so that will be JUST IN TIME! All that was left from the doom-idea in #12 was a rant by Bobby Conn (en ingles), Captain Sensible of the Damned booking Flight 666 (en ingles, tambien), and maybe the mood of the tango article (in deutsch). So it wasn't really end of anything..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 20, 1999 (22:52)", "body": "gotcha!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (12:32)", "body": "I really wish I knew what you were talking about in this topic. I hgad snappy and interesting questions to ask until I read through the entire topic, and now my mind is blank. Sort of seems like it should be in Spirit...I would like to know what the muse created with your mind....anything? And, who was/is Stang?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Nov 30, 1999 (17:38)", "body": "Stang is a guy I'd love to have an interview with, but can't get through to... He is the chairman of the Foundation in Dallas, which is where the stuff Rev. Thomas H. Smith (CotC) worked with may or may not have originated. It is a things with a Spirit-facade, but it's more a Culture and Media thing. And it's weird and isn'T at the same time, which is where I plug in."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 30, 1999 (18:04)", "body": "Ah...the world of the between...bizarre yet real; spiritual-cum-cultural-cum?! Is CotC a \"reverend as we know it in the classical sense of anointed and sacntified or is this another kind altogether?! I am surmising from what you have said and what I have read of CotC's posts that he is of the latter. Sounds most interesting, though! Do it in English and I will buy a copy!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Dec 10, 1999 (04:24)", "body": "I've never met CotC, but some people here seem to have known him. Apointed - not, sanctified - as good as any other."}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 10, 1999 (12:38)", "body": "There are several on the masthead of Spring with religious degrees after their names. Never met the rev mentioned above, but these others are amidst the masses herein from the University of Return Post Mail Order, which seems as valid to me as any other. Appointed but not annointed?!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (14:29)", "body": "Ointment?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:14)", "body": "something like that!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "So, when do we find out where to read Yeah? If I do a websearch for it shall I find it? Tune in tomorrow - as the Spirit moves you...Hullo, Bob! media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 2, "subject": "media type jobs and contracts", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (16:23)", "body": "Penthouse Magazine has a job going for an associate editor responsible for co-ordinating editorial material moving from the magazine to the Penthouse web site, and for helping to develop original material for the site itself in conjunction with the editors and writers of the magazine. The job requires working in the New York offices. It is a full-time staff position with benefits. Ideal for a person already based in New York or commuting distance with a knowledge of HTML markup and other basic Web skills and an editorial background. mailto:boswell@well.com media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 20, "subject": "The New Yorker", "response_count": 5, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "hummie", "date": "Fri, Jun 20, 1997 (20:41)", "body": "most interesting piece i saw in the nyer was the discussion of the story of O's author, pauline reage about two years ago. very cool."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 20, 1997 (23:45)", "body": "And, I think it's this week, its all *Indian fiction* and a very interesting piece about the scandalous story of Indian politics over several decades that's about to jolt the Indian continent. My, humdog, I'm awfully glad you stopped by. If you head South, please come by and visit us at the Spring!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "hummie", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (20:37)", "body": "i'd very much like that. how far are you from new orleans?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:45)", "body": "A few hundred miles, I'm in Austin, TX."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar  8, 1998 (02:29)", "body": "from arice: There's a fantastic article about biological weapons and the people who make them in the current issue of the New Yorker. Very chilling and confirms what many of us have been saying here, that the stuff could very easily be distributed just by tossing some in the air ducts of the subway, or even just letting it fly on a breezy day. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 21, "subject": "Princess Diana dies in car crash at age 36", "response_count": 66, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (06:35)", "body": "DIANA: I still to this day find the interest daunting and phenomenal, because I actually don't like being the centre of attention. When I have my public duties, I understand that when I get out the car I'm being photographed, but actually it's now when I go out of my door, my front door, I'm being photographed. I never know where a lens is going to be. A normal day would be followed by four cars; a normal day would come back to my car and find six freelance photographers jumping around me. Some people would say, Well, if you had a policeman it would make it easier. It doesn't at all. They've decided that I'm still a product, after 15, 16 years, that sells well, and they all shout at me, telling me that: `Oh, come on, Di, look up. If you give us a picture I can get my children to a better school.' And, you know, you can laugh it off. But you get that the whole time. It's quite difficult."}, {"response": 2, "author": "kili1", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (09:27)", "body": "The invasion of Princess Diana's personal life by the relentlessness of the paparazzi is appalling. It is with deep regret that the world has lost one of its brightest stars as a direct result of the greed of the \"media\". Isn't it a a shame that only after such a tragedy, laws will be enacted to curtail this type of \"stalking\". God Bless the Princess of Wales and her family, especially her two sons William & Harry."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (09:53)", "body": "One story relating to this is that the crowd beat up one of the photographers taking pictures without offering help. What a tragedy if gruesome pictures of a sticken Di reach the tabloids. Hard to say what was going on inside that Mercedes, that one report says was speeding at 120 mph. But it seems likely they were trying to shake off these relentless paparatzi. Laws should be passed to restrict this kind of media stalking, kili1."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (13:25)", "body": "Apparently, four of the papparrazi are going to be charged with manslaughter. Possibly one of the flashes from cameras may have blined the driver. The car hit a pillar in the middle of the road. Diana's brother said that every news media person pursuing here has \"blood on his hands today.\""}, {"response": 5, "author": "RMVOLTESV", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (15:52)", "body": "PAPPARAZI SHOULD BE PROSUCUTED AND PUT TO DEATH"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MemorialNet", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (16:09)", "body": "[WWW, Aug 31, 1997] - Memorial.Net opens a permanent public memorial for Princess Diana. By visting the web site: http://www.memorial.net/diana you can view, and POST a memorial for the late Princess Diana. The site is designed to be a lasting reminder of someone who has effected the world, and became \"the world's most photographed woman\" (in addition to other titles!). There is no charge to post or vist the site, and the site is not transitory, it will remain active forever."}, {"response": 7, "author": "robc", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (16:13)", "body": "The Los Angeles Times has put together a comprehensive package of information composed of staff reports, wire services and other information on the life and death of Princess Diana. Point your browser to http://www.latimes.com to see our overall Diana package. We will have our continual coverage on our site over the next week. Thank you for your consideration. --Rob. Rob Cioe Electronic Editor Los Angeles Times rob.cioe@latimes.com http://www.latimes.com 213-237-7002"}, {"response": 8, "author": "arthur", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (16:23)", "body": "SUCH A LOSS FOR SO MANY PEOPLE. WE SHALL MISS HER. SHE DESERVED TO BE HAPPY. IT'S A SHEME! PRESS'S WRIGTHS HAS LIMITS!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "arthur", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (16:23)", "body": "SUCH A LOSS FOR SO MANY PEOPLE. WE SHALL MISS HER. SHE DESERVED TO BE HAPPY. IT'S A SHAME! PRESS'S WRIGTHS HAS LIMITS!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "watcher", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (16:59)", "body": "Has anyone reading this ever tried to take a picture in a tunnel at night while driving a motorcycle moving at 120 mph??? Who would believe that there were 7 people doing this? I wonder how accidental this accident was."}, {"response": 11, "author": "Moonchild", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (17:26)", "body": "Diana's grace, kindness and compassion will not soon be forgotten. The world will be in a state of mourning. Her life was a tragic one, and she deserved far more than she got. the only possible comfort in this whole trsgic situation is that perhaps she has found peace. My thoughts and prayers go out to her children and to her family. I hope that the Royal family will contine the work that Diana started and to honor to her memory."}, {"response": 12, "author": "Nurun", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (18:02)", "body": "Diana's life and work gave joy to millions. Her death, sadness to more. Her spirit will live forever."}, {"response": 13, "author": "perk", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (19:31)", "body": "I am sorry to see such a beautiful and caring person taken from us. Now she will have the peace she deserves. Rest in peace Diana, the people will miss you."}, {"response": 14, "author": "Clarissa", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (20:20)", "body": "I will admit that I don't know much about Princess Diana. I was only 2 years old when she married Prince Charles and recieved the title in 1981. However, from what I know about her, I view her as a caring, loving, and beautiful woman. She had a soul of a savior by helping people in need. Princess Di was a well known woman to everyone of various age groups world wide. I view some of the paparazi as sick individuals with no moral respect whatsoever. Especially the individual who attempted to take photos of the accident, and got mobbed by people mourning the scene. Aren't these reporters feeling guilty at all of what they've caused already? Without them chasing the mercedes, all in the vehicle would be alive and well. We should all give suppo t to her family, especially her two young sons William and Harry. I hope that paparazi will learn from this accident that Enough is Enough. Princess Di's loving soul will live forever in the hearts of people everywhere. I have hope for the future that with all of Diana's help with charities, people will follow her and help those in need. A tradgity...though a loving soul that will never be forgotten."}, {"response": 15, "author": "LeAnne", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (21:17)", "body": "I was very saddened by the death of Princess Diana, the paparazzi who stalked her should be punished by the most severe means available. Diana was a public figure but she was also a human being who deserved to be treated with the same respect as \"normal\" people. The world has suffered a tragic loss and my prayers are with her sons. GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN!!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (21:45)", "body": "I just caught an NBC bulletin that the Publisher of the Inquirer is asking for a world wide ban on buying the crash scene pictures. They're already on the market for sale. There were pictures taken before the police arrive and the crowd beat up the papparazi taking them."}, {"response": 17, "author": "tkroll", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (21:58)", "body": "My personal opinion is that any of the paparazi whom would endanger the lives of others like they did in this high-speed chase, should recieve the same kind of punishment that the party they were chasing recieved as a result of just trying to evade the press. For instance, when Princess Diana (may she rest in peace was killed in that auto accident, the paparazi that were in pursuit of a quick buck should also be put to death. They should be put to death by stoning by the public. Just my thoughts. May Princess Diana rest in peace."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (01:53)", "body": "Five photographers were taken into custody by French police for their involvement. One guy was taking pictures with a commercial camera 15 seconds after the accident happened, according to the BBC. Diana single handedly gave a measure of respect to the dysfunctional royal family. She carried on a mission to help people with AIDS, homeless people and her travels highlighted trouble spots around the world. Her presence lent credence and sustained these causes. Do you feel, like I do, that these good qualities of hers came to the fore in her untimely death. I find myself feeling a true kinship with her now that I never realized while she was alive. I was most profoundly affected by seeing the pictures of her with Mother Theresa, who I greatly admire. The Royal Palace set up an official condolences website at http://www.Royal.gov.uk The Red Cross has declared that the recent advances in the campaign against landmines were largely the result of Diana's public visits to Angola and Bosnia. AIDS charities say she is irreplaceable. She broke Royal tradition by touching and coming in to close contract with people stricken with AIDS and deadly diseases. Unlike the Quen and Prince, who lead insular lives. Someone said that had she lived she would have become a mix of Audrey Hepburn and Eleanor Roosevelt, I agree. Perhaps through a little of Mother Theresa and Jackie Onassis into the mix. The dysfunctioning Royal family owes her a Royal Funeral with a week of resting in State for the dignity and grace she has brought to them. Hopefully, Charles can take up a cause or two on her behalf instead of carrying on with a life of polo and weekend excursions and affairs out of his marriage. Hopefully, Diana has brought the kids to a state where he can't mess them up too much. If you have to cry over this, let it rip. Diana is deserving of our tears and our respect."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (02:22)", "body": "A very good exposition on the paparzzi is on Robert Aldridge's site: http://webflier.com/WebPilot/Articles/diana.shtml Amond other things, he states: \"the children of this very nice woman are now going to have to live the rest of their lives not seeking the advice of their mother. They will not have her there to scold them when they do something wrong, or to kiss them good night, ever again. They will not see their mother's joy when they are at the altar getting married, or for her grand children. They will not have a mother to fuss over them before the prom. And all of this was caused by some idiots' greed for that one photo that could turn the heads of the world and put big bucks in their pockets.\" And he has created a Ban paparazzi logo that he encourages folks to use on his website."}, {"response": 20, "author": "QuietStorm", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (03:48)", "body": "I know others have touched on this topic, and I mean in no way to trivialise Diana's death, but, really, what about the children? Robert Aldridge said it beautifully and that is the main focus of my thoughts in these times. Diana was a generous, kind, dedicated person, living a life to help the lives of the less fortunate. Yes, the media has become a rampaging bull who, as an infant, was controllable, but now has matured into a greedy, ruthless and near unstoppable force. But for William and Harry, none of this means anything to them. They have prematurely lost a mother. *Their* mother. By whatever circumstances, by whoever is to blame, it is a tragic and always terrible loss. They have barely begun to live, and they have suffered more, have been put through more, and *will* suffer more, then many other people together. Age wise, I confess to being barely older than William, and maybe that is why I feel so strongly about this. By birthright, they are robbed of their personal dreams, their youth, their anonymity, their margin of human error, normal friendships, relationships and life. And now, their mother. So whatever they are going through now, especially William who holds a greater weight on his shoulders than most of us could imagine, my thoughts and consolations are with them. May they one day, like their mother, find true happiness before they die."}, {"response": 21, "author": "1400", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (06:17)", "body": "We have also created an interesting message and discussion board. Please feel free to use it at your convenience. It's at href=\"http://www.icom.com/diana/\">http://www.icom.com/diana/ ."}, {"response": 22, "author": "rivoli", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (06:18)", "body": "It is being suggested that the bodt meeting in Ottawa in two weeks adopt a unilateral ban on land-mines, and name the treaty after Diana. I propose a petition to that effect. Let her not have died in vain."}, {"response": 23, "author": "Shringer", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (06:29)", "body": "I want to give the families of all the people involved in the car carsh on France my deepest sympathies. I pray for the families of both the driver and Princess Di's boyfriend. It seems that they have not been given much attention. We have to remember that there were two other people besides Princess Di that perished in the accident. Iam also apalled at the fact that the press is treating the situation as a criminal act. This is something her family does not need especially her two sons. May she and her f mily and the other families be in \"peace\"!!!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (13:04)", "body": "These other victims deserve our prayers and thoughts as well. And one of the victims, who is still alive, may live to tell the story of what happened in that tunnel that night. She outwitted the Royal family of England and raised her kids with compassion and caring. Against the royal families advice, she put them in a less staid school and took them to visit AIDS patients. She was a loving mother who cared about her children. The royal family doesn't show emotion. They don't touch other people. Diana broke with tradition and reached out to folks. Her lineage goes back to King James and King Charles I. She was chosen at 19 years old to become Charles wife to insure succession. If you look at the videos of her going through hospitals and AIDS clinics you got the feeling that she wasn't just doing a photo op, you got the feeling that she was truly involved with these people. I just saw a video of her in a childrens hospital and she stopped and looked at the board, noticed a piece was missing and reached down to the floor to replace it. The little boy was beaming with joy and she bent over to hug him. As far as the paparrazi, some laws need to be made to protect celebreties and they also need to exercise caution in evading and countering them. Perhaps, at this point, Charles should tell the Archbishop of Canterbury to take a hike, his faith has faded in to obscurity. After a number of years and Diana has received her due respect, he should be free to remarry. It's possible that Charles decieved Diana into marrying without know about Camilla, but we don't know all the facts in this do we? And, as a man, I can't hide the fact that she was one of the most desireable women in the world, she was someone you would die to meet and to get to know. She was tall, slim and had this demure mystique about her. She appeared to be someone who would be easy to get along with. Boycott the sale of tabloids. When you go through the checkout line at the supermarket, give a letter to the checkout person that says you object to the sale of publications that support lies and stalking of people."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (13:25)", "body": "I heard from Robert Aldridge today, one of the people organizing the tabloid ban. A few posts back I quoted him but when I copied and pasted it, the credit line dropped out, and there is a nice link and a link back to http://www.webflier.com along with the quote that I didn't include. Apologies Robert for my hastiness and sloppiness in that post. Also. the use of the ban paparazzi logo was intended to be used by others and we intend to use it in some context here on the Spring, perhaps on our main page. Folks should feel free to copy the GIF off of Roberts site, or link directly to the GIF on his server. Either way. If you link directly to the GIF on Roberts server, please use the GIF at http://www.webflier.com/cgi-bin/diana.pl Please link the GIF either to http://www.webflier.com or http://www.webflier.com/WebPilot/Articles/diana.shtml . You may choose which. Robert will probably expand on this topic further and such, and linking will give people a place to go to view the various different things/protests, etc. not to mention share their feelings and read others. Robert says he may be adjusting the GIF to read \"Can the Paparazzi\" or something like this. He would like to make it more specific to Paparazzi and not make it sound as broad as applying to all media. At any rate, we gladly join with you Robert Aldridge in your tabloid ban. We'll keep watching your site."}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (14:29)", "body": "This just in from CNN. Now we have a drunk limo driver. And passengers not wearing seatbelts. I wonder what the guy who is in the hospital's saying, he had to be in the front seat."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (14:56)", "body": "To add to the above, apparently the driver was a former Air Force pilot and was trained by Mercedes Benz, according the an ABC news flash. He knew how to drive. But his alcohol level may have been very high. There was a duplicate topic created and only one response was posted, so I am moving it here Item 22 entered Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (17:48) by L de Sousa (lies) PRINCESS DI MURDERED! PRINCESS DI WAS MURDERED BY THE ROYAL GOON SQUAD! WHAT A CONVENIENT AND BELIEVABLE WAY TO GET RID OF HER. WHO WERE THESE SO-CALLED PAPARAZZI/HIT MEN, AND WHAT POWERS THAT BE WERE BEHIND THIS? ACCIDENT? I DON'T THINK SO. COMMENTS ANYONE? My comment, this is highly speculative. As are the websites saying that they \"guaranteed\" that Princess Diana would die several weeks ago. And this goes for all the conspiracy theories. All this stuff seems groundless and highly speculative. Show me some hard evidence. The paparazzi are definitely not off the hook. There's going to be an annoucement by the French Police in an hour about whether they will be released or charged within an hour."}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (15:10)", "body": "Dave Bailey recommends these newsgroups for more news : alt.journalism.criticism alt.politics.media alt.activism Those paparazzi will be charged with failure to aid at the scene of an accident, unconfirmed."}, {"response": 29, "author": "rhass", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (16:00)", "body": "What do you think will happen to the royal family? Respond by E-mailing me at rhass@ix.netcom.com"}, {"response": 30, "author": "leungs", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (16:20)", "body": "I know the truth!! Princes Di was taken by Alien to the fifth dimension of our solar system!!!!!!!!She now lives with Elive and and very happy........ Does anyone know where I could get a good second hand Mercedes ????"}, {"response": 31, "author": "azimi", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (17:20)", "body": "Princess Diana was not taken by aliens"}, {"response": 32, "author": "Luminator", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (17:30)", "body": "This is all a conspiracy. Princess Diana did not die but decided that if she was dead then no one would bug her anymore. She is living a new life and with a new identity. The reason she spent a while at the Hospital is that she was changing her whole identity, just like Face-Off. PS. She should have driven a SAAB or Volvo instead."}, {"response": 33, "author": "XTABLOID", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (17:41)", "body": "I urge a national boycott against the sale of tabloids in honor of Princess Diana beginning the day of her funeral . I am looking for help in distributing flyers as well as picketing at the airport against the sale of tabloids. If anyone would be interested in helping, please e-mail me at: XTABLOID @AOL.com. or call 512-288-4596. Thank You, Yolanda Stobaugh"}, {"response": 34, "author": "WalterH", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (18:30)", "body": "Four of the main pages regarding the death of Princess Diana are coming together and joining forces. Together, we will be an awesome force in our crusade to stop the paparazzi. You can visit the site by clicking on the \"Stop the paparazzi\" button in the main screen of www.spring.com, or go directly to the page by going to http://www.meer.net/~walterh/privacy.html Thank you! Walter H. Hopgood, walterh@squidge.org"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (19:22)", "body": "We'll actually be setting up a permanent Diana page where you can find the 'stop papparzzi' button at http://www.spring.com/dian.a.html And it's good to see a hometown effort! Good work."}, {"response": 36, "author": "findbeanie", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (19:23)", "body": "All kids can send condolences directly to Buckingham Palace, or just Chat about Diana by clicking here . This site offers a chance for children to deal with the untimely death psychologically. This site was voted the hottest childrens shopping site on the internet last week by Starting Point. Thousands of kids monthly come to this site!! We'll give reciprocal links to other sites of this kind!! Email me, FINDBEANIE@AOL.COM for more information!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "carlisle", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (21:36)", "body": "PAVANNE Play Ravel. The princess now has died. We've always wondered who she was, and now We know and know not still. We have no way Of knowing whom to mourn. How do you grieve The stuff of tabloids and the TV news? I've fathered daughters and I think I know A princess when I see one. That she was. And sons I have too, little princes once. The mother now has died. I know that grief-- To lose the only one who understands. I am a husband, too, and have a woman Who has borne sons and has borne again. Whom does he grieve when her he's thrust away? How does he sorrow for her that he shamed? And now that she is dead, is he a man? The paparazzi told us who she was, Will tell us who she was again, again, Again. Can we believe them now that they Have killed the goose that laid their golden eggs? Or can we ever trust their words again? It was our voyeurism killed the princess, Killed we know not whom, deprived her children Of their mother. God forgive our greed. Jesus was right, \"Father, forgive them, for They know not what they do. He died; she died. ................................... Arthur B. Devlin August 31, 1997 [adevlin@blomand.net]"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (23:23)", "body": "I asked Susan Sweeney for permission to reprint the following story. On this visit, Diana stopped and touched each little child with cerebral palsy and only gave a nod to the wealthy and titled visitors at the program. Discovering New Hope http://www.ieway.com/~ssweeney/article.html By Jamie Tobias Neely Staffwriter Mother and daughter want more children to have the option to try Conductive Education The story of 11-year-old Susanna Sweeney-Martini's trip to England to meet the princess begins like a fairy tale. There was the moment Princess Di's green Jaguar turned through the gate of the National Institute of Conductive Education in Birmingham and roared onto the grounds. There was the moment the princess wafted into the room \"like a piece of paper floating in the air \" There was the instant that Di hoisted a baby from the crowd to her shoulder and didn't flinch a royal eyelash when he drooled all over her designer suit. But in the unexpected moment when Princess Diana walked right over and sat down to talk with Susanna and her mother, Susan Sweeney of Spokane, real life and controversy intervened. Princess Diana asked why one of her pet projects, Conductive Education, for children such as Susanna with cerebral palsy, was having such a difficult time taking off in the United States. The answers point to a global dispute over the proper treatment for children with cerebral palsy and, at the same time, illuminate the struggle of one determined mother from Spokane. It all began in 1991 when Susan Sweeney, a Spokane special education teacher and lawyer, took her daughter to Hungary for Conductive Education. Doctors had predicted Susanna would never sit, stand or walk. She had been strapped in a wheelchair from age 2. Finally, in Hungary, Susanna and her mother found hard work, and a miracle. At the Peto Institute in Budapest Susanna learned to sit, stand and take a few steps alone. When she returned, her pediatrician, Dr. Peter Holden, pronounced the results \"dramatic.\" Susan Sweeney struggled to find ways to continue Susanna's treatment in the United States. Most doctors, physical therapists and contacts at the national cerebral palsy organization weren't interested. When Susan said, Can I have more? the world said, \" No\" Susan does not take \"no for an answer,\" says Thomas Martini, Susanna's father and Sweeney's ex-husband. In the years since Susanna's trip to Hungary, Susan Sweeney has fought a lack of money and information to start the Association for Conductive Education. She has opened a private school modeled after the Hungarian institute here in Spokane. \"If she couldn't bring Susanna to the mountain, she's bringing the mountain to Spokane, rock by rock,\" Martini said. Today, blue-eyed, blond Susanna is as bright and articulate as her lawyer mother. The two have appeared on national television, and are among America's leading advocates of conductive education. That's why, when the National Institute of Conductive Education dedicated a new building in Birmingham, England, this fall, Susanna was invited to speak. Susanna's parents and brother flew with her to England where, on Oct. 31, she spoke in front of Princess Di and other gathered dignitaries. Susanna said, \"I hope in the future children in America will be able to have conductive education like children in England have.\" Conductive education was developed hidden behind the Iron Curtain in post-war Hungary. Americans tend to accept the limitations of cerebral palsy and have developed high-tech wheelchairs and computers to help children adapt. But the cash-poor Hungarians could not afford this approach. Instead they trained teachers, called conductors, to actually teach children to walk. They used small wooden furniture, stories and songs to cue the children's bodies to move properly. Children with cerebral palsy in the United States might see a physical therapist once a week. The therapist manipulates their bodies to prevent them from becoming stiff. But in Hungary, the children spend six hours a day learning to move their arms and legs themselves. It wasn't until the 1980s that the outside world began to hear of the Hungarian approach. It's now available in England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Israel, Austria, New Zealand and Canada. But it's nearly impossible to find in the United States. One of the few American schools is Sweeney's, located in a daylight basement on Spokane's North Side. For five summers, Sweeney has flown a Hungarian teacher to Spokane to duplicate the training Susanna received in Budapest. The children made progress during the summer, but as with any fitness regimen, they lost ground through inactivity during the school year. This fall, Sweeney began an after-school program for eight children that will continue their gains through the school year. It's been a remarkable accomplishment, given the typically American indifference to education and health care developed outside of this country. Sweeney has been particularly frustrate"}, {"response": 39, "author": "weetbix", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (06:09)", "body": "While I am extremely upset at the death of Diana I can only wonder, and have said ever since the accident, that while the papparazzi have to accept a large part of the blame for Dianas unhappiness in life and for her death, the fact remains that the driver of the car should not have endangered his employers by driving in such a manner, regardless of their wishes. His profession ( and mine, I am an australian cab driver ) is reliant on being able to perform our duties without endangering ourselves or other and as it has now come out, he should not have even been in the drivers seat. I hate to say it but both Diana and Dodi did contribute to their own deaths by allowing him to drive them at all. From reports of his B.A.C. his drunkeness should have been obvious and personally I will not let anyone drive with me in the car if they have had even one drink let alone the amount he musrt have consumed, so their decision to get in that car was, without hindsight even, was stupid. My sympathies lie with her belove sons who now have to face a life without the most important person to them, their doting mother,"}, {"response": 40, "author": "shalom", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (08:32)", "body": "It is always sad when a kind, generous and warm hearted mum dies and leaves behind children. It is even more of a saddness when the parents are no longer in unison through divorce separation on even a previous death of one of the parents. Every day such occurrences are happening to unfamed mothers..., every day hundreds of children are dying because of an uncaring world. Does the media spend days and days on the sadness !! and draw out attention to the sorrow ??? A true reflection of peoples feelings, those who want to share their sympathy and saddness would not to have spent the thousands of dollars on flowers(much to the pleasure of the florist) but to give it as a donation in the memory of Diana to one of the many charities she sponsored."}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (09:49)", "body": "Diana's funeral will be like none other in British royal history. There may be an outpouring of sentiment from people with AIDS, homeless people, and others. It will be an unprecedented event. The first tabloid pictures of Diana at the crash scene have been published by http://www.bild.de . Write to der bild, a German tabloid, and tell them you no longer support their publication."}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (20:55)", "body": "To quote airman (airman@well.com): That is it. We are covering old ground. It's time to do this by the numbers.... In the future we can simply refer to a number to assign blame. So we have the following list of suspects to blame as cited in various sources on the WELL, in the media and on the street 1. The Paparazzi who chased her 2. The Editors who buy Paparazzi pictures 3. The People who buy the tabloids 4. The Driver who was drunk and speeding 5. Her Boyfriend who was famous and infamous 6. Di, for using the press and not using seatbelts 7. The Media who is saintly invoking the Free Speech mantra 8. The Royal Family for wrecking her life 9. Mercedes for building a tank that could go 120 mph 10. The Motorcycles for really being annoying 11. Dino Delaurentis for inventing the Paparazzo 12. The Masses of People behaving like \"Day of the LOcust\""}, {"response": 43, "author": "BobbyJr", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (23:31)", "body": "We are all to blame for this and similar tragedies. We are blood thirsty animals parading around in the guise of humanity. If the people were not interested in filth and tragedy others would not serve it to us thus the need for vampirous photographers (loose term) would not exist."}, {"response": 44, "author": "friend", "date": "Wed, Sep  3, 1997 (05:28)", "body": "For Those who Loved Diana, Please visit www.deliveryking.com"}, {"response": 45, "author": "Stefen", "date": "Wed, Sep  3, 1997 (13:54)", "body": "Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone, Silence the pianos and with a muffled drum, Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come. Let aeroplances circle moaning overhead, Scribbling on the sky the message \"She is Dead\", Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves, Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves. She was our North, our South, our East and West, Our working week and our Sunday rest, Our noon, our midnight, our talk, our song; We thought that love would last forever: We were wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one; Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood; For nothing now can ever come to any good. W.H. Auden"}, {"response": 46, "author": "friend", "date": "Thu, Sep  4, 1997 (02:02)", "body": "Just a little something to remember Lady Diana, Princess of Wales. Queen of Hearts. http://www.deliveryking.com"}, {"response": 47, "author": "amy2", "date": "Thu, Sep  4, 1997 (20:59)", "body": "I am also very sorry about Diana's tragic death. It seems there were several factors involved -- not just the paparazzi, but the limo driver going way too fast & being legally drunk. Before we leap all over the press, let's remember that what we know of Diana -- the reason she is in fact so popular -- was brought to us courtesy of journalists & photographers. Not the sleazy supermarket stuff, but the coverage of her charitable trips abroad, etc. In any case, she will be greatly missed, & Prince Willia has some very big shoes to fill."}, {"response": 48, "author": "BobbyJr", "date": "Thu, Sep  4, 1997 (22:48)", "body": "I saw a small story yesterday about a white buffalo calf being born and the indian myth surrounding such an event. The story is interesting to me in that from the buffalo comes a princess to usher in 600 years of unprecidented world peace. Would it not be a great tribute to Diana if the world could see the loss we have all suffered and allow her to become that peace bearing princess we all so need."}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep  4, 1997 (23:50)", "body": "Sometimes in our rush to lay blame we forget that Diana was, as Amy said, a creation of her photographs. The blame is multifaceted and includes so many factors. And William does have a major burden to bear, hopefully he will carry Diana's charitable, selfless spirit into his kingship some day."}, {"response": 50, "author": "thomas5", "date": "Thu, Sep  4, 1997 (23:50)", "body": "You can tell a lot about society by the people it respects, and the current obsession with Diana death shows a society that is clearly uneasy with itself. Diana was no JFK, Luther King or Ghandi. She was never elected to anything, and never made one memorable speech. If holding few charity balls or selling some glad rags (that she never paid for in the first place) is all it takes to make you a 'great humanitarian' then people must have little respect for humanity. In any other time Diana would be seen as a rather pathetic creature who could not handle the stresses of private and public life. Yet today. 'admitting' that we can't cope is what we are told we should aspire to and 'what made Diana so great'. Well I'm sorry, but I can't imagine Elizabeth the First saying \"oh its just too much pressure\" when the Spanish Armada was about to destroy her Kingdom, and Queen Victoria never seemed to develop any eating disorders despite having the largest empire in the world and the loss of her 'beloved Alfred'. It seems the days of expecting great things from our leaders are over, and if people expect nothing of their leaders then they must expect even less of themselves."}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep  6, 1997 (20:43)", "body": "Diana's brothers eulogy was stark and revealing about the conditions of Diana's life and her place in history. He put a lot of things in their place, including the assembled royal family. I think this should be the lead story in tonights evening news. By the way, thanks to everyone posting here for the overwhelming response."}, {"response": 53, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep  6, 1997 (23:14)", "body": "Spring's headline today: \"like a candle in the wind\" Earl Spencer told the world his views of the press, the way her sons would be raised by his side of the family, and about Diana's insecurities and eating disorders. In front of the Queen and Queen Mother he described how she wanted to bid farewell to England. He told of the irony that Diana the name of the huntress in mythology was the most hunted person in the word (by the ravenous media). He laid it on the line like only a brother could and the ripples of applause and shock that reverberated throughout England and the world and made their way back through the staid, royal audience in the church. The Elton John phrase is pretty much in line with (jonl) 's comments. She's to be buried on an island in the middle of a lake. Kind of reminds me of the place where I lived in Dogtown, California years ago."}, {"response": 54, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep  6, 1997 (23:19)", "body": "The full text of Earl Spencer's eulogy to Princess Diana: \ufffd \ufffdI STAND BEFORE YOU today the representative of a family in grief, in a country in mourning before a world in shock. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdWe are all united not only in our desire to pay our respects to Diana but rather in our need to do so. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdFor such was her extraordinary appeal that the tens of millions of people taking part in this service all over the world via television and radio who never actually met her, feel that they, too, lost someone close to them in the early hours of Sunday morning. It is a more remarkable tribute to Diana than I can ever hope to offer her today. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdDiana was the very essence of compassion, of duty, of style, of beauty. All over the world she was a symbol of selfless humanity, a standard-bearer for the rights of the truly downtrodden, a truly British girl who transcended nationality, someone with a natural nobility who was classless, who proved in the last year that she needed no royal title to continue to generate her particular brand of magic. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdToday is our chance to say thank you for the way you brightened our lives, even though God granted you but half a life. We will all feel cheated that you were taken from us so young and yet we must learn to be grateful that you came along at all. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdOnly now you are gone do we truly appreciate what we are now without and we want you to know that life without you is very, very difficult. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdWe have all despaired at our loss over the past week and only the strength of the message you gave us through your years of giving has afforded us the strength to move forward. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdThere is a temptation to rush to canonize your memory. There is no need to do so. You stand tall enough as a human being of unique qualities not to need to be seen as a saint. Indeed to sanctify your memory would be to miss out on the very core of your being, your wonderfully mischievous sense of humor with the laugh that bent you double, your joy for life transmitted wherever you took your smile, and the sparkle in those unforgettable eyes, your boundless energy which you could barely contain. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdBut your greatest gift was your intuition, and it was a gift you used wisely. This is what underpinned all your wonderful attributes. And if we look to analyze what it was about you that had such a wide appeal, we find it in your instinctive feel for what was really important in all our lives. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdWithout your God-given sensitivity, we would be immersed in greater ignorance at the anguish of AIDS and HIV sufferers, the plight of the homeless, the isolation of lepers, the random destruction of land mines. Diana explained to me once that it was her innermost feelings of suffering that made it possible for her to connect with her constituency of the rejected. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdAnd here we come to another truth about her. For all the status, the glamour, the applause, Diana remained throughout a very insecure person at heart, almost childlike in her desire to do good for others so she could release herself from deep feelings of unworthiness of which her eating disorders were merely a symptom. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdThe world sensed this part of her character and cherished her for her vulnerability, whilst admiring her for her honesty. The last time I saw Diana was on July the first, her birthday, in London, when typically she was not taking time to celebrate her special day with friends but was guest of honor at a charity fund-raising evening. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdShe sparkled of course, but I would rather cherish the days I spent with her in March when she came to visit me and my children in our home in South Africa. I am proud of the fact that apart from when she was on public display meeting President Mandela, we managed to contrive to stop the ever-resent paparazzi from getting a single picture of her. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdThat meant a lot to her. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdThese are days I will always treasure. It was as if wed been transported back to our childhood, when we spent such an enormous amount of time together, the two youngest in the family. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdFundamentally she hadnt changed at all from the big sister who mothered me as a baby, fought with me at school and endured those long train journeys between our parents homes with me at weekends. It is a tribute to her level-headedness and strength that despite the most bizarre life imaginable after her childhood, she remained intact, true to herself. I dont think she ever understood why her genuinely good intentions were sneered at by the media. ... My own ... explanation is that genuine goodness is threatening to those at the opposite end of the moral spectrum. EARL SPENCER \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdThere is no doubt that she was looking for a new direction in her life at this time. She talked endlessly of getting away from England, mainly because of the treatment she received at the hands of the newspapers. \ufffd \ufffd \ufffd \ufffdI dont think she ever understood why her genuinely good intentions were sneered at by the media, why there appeared to b"}, {"response": 55, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep  7, 1997 (04:14)", "body": "Mother Teresa and Princess Diana met in Rome five years ago and then in New York in June. Mother Teresa said, just before she died Friday, that Princess Diana was a good friend \"in love with the poor, a very good wife, a very good mother.\" \"She was very concerned for the poor. She was very anxious to do something for them,\" Mother Teresa said. \"This is why she was close to me.\" I was first exposed to Mother Teresa on the Farm in Tennessee, where Stephen and the Farm folks idolized her and spoke of her often. Mother Teresa founded the Missionaries of Charity to help Calcutta's sick and destitute. A 1969 BBC documentary detailing her mission brought her international fame. By 1975, she was in Time magazine in a story entitled, \"Living Saints, Messengers of Hope in Our time.\" In 1979, she won the Nobel Peace Prize, using the $192,000 award to further her work. It was a contrast and an alliance of anomalies: the tall, stunning Princess and the short hunched over Catholic nun. The $50,000 Dior outfit and the $1 sari. Yet they complemented each other and the photographs of them together said more to help the poor and the disenfranchised than volumes of words. It is fitting that they both died within days of each other."}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep  7, 1997 (05:20)", "body": "The death of Mother Theresa is an immense loss for humanity. She was a living example of the human capacity to generate infinite love, compassion and altruism. Her work and life embodied these noble and universal human values for people all over the world across the barriers of race, nationality, culture and religion. Today's world requires us to realise and accept the oneness of humanity and develop a sense of universal responsibility and caring. Although mordern science and technology had made greate contributions in solving many of mankind's problems, it is obvious that the challenges and issues faced by the global community today require us to cultivate not only the rational mind but also the other faculties of the human spirit; the power of love, compassion and solidarity. Mother Theresa was a towering embodiment of this human spirit and her great compassion an inspiring example of the true essence and potential of spiritual life. The Dalai Lama"}, {"response": 57, "author": "doug", "date": "Sun, Sep  7, 1997 (08:36)", "body": "All of this has an air of incredibility, its hard to believe that the world has lost to completely special people. As for the paparazzi, they should be publically humiliated so everyone knows exactly who they are, so they can be chastised by there own industry. I heard a report from a I witness that they saw flashes from cameras as the car was crashing! The same witness said the wreck was caused by a motorcycle that cut in front of the car forcing the car into the pillars in the middle of the tunnel. T e two riders on that bike should be hung from a tree in the middle of Pickadilly Square! One of my writers was so moved by the death of Diana that she was compelled to write an editorial from a mothers point of view. Please come by to read it, over 500 people have read it since the 3rd. http://www.capitol-city.com Another writer sent ma a pointed editorial as well it can also be found at Capitol-city A&E Magazine. Stop the Paparazzi!!!!! It gives us real photographersa real bad name!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "doug", "date": "Sun, Sep  7, 1997 (08:38)", "body": "Is there any trees in Pickadilly Square?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  9, 1997 (00:29)", "body": "I got an incredible letter from Earl Spencer's neighbor in South Africa today. I hope he allows me to reprint it. I have written him for permission. It is very profound."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  9, 1997 (03:55)", "body": "Received from Grant Pollard, Earl Spencers neighbor in S Africa You seem to have made quite a considerable contribution to this site. I am in South Africa and live just down the road from Princess Diana's brother. I happened to catch the CNN and BBC news flash that Diana had been involved in an accident and stayed up the whole night awaiting developments as they happened. It was a devastating experience for reasons beyond the obvious that even I cannot explain. I was as shattered by Diana's passing as I was by my own Mother's death by suicide when I was 15. My empathy with the young princes was natural. I phoned relatives in London who were amongst the first to deliver flowers to Diana's home and delivered a boquet of flowers from my own garden very early on Sunday morning to Earl Spencer's home. Here I was unfortunately accosted by the world's media and extensively reported upon in both local and international papers and TV. A few remarks: Have there been any paint marks found on either the car-wreck or a motor cycle to indicated any contact? The Paris road engineers ought to be hung for not providing any crash barriers along the concrete columns.........they are natural death traps and this would have been foreseen in any other country! 8 glasses of wine for a Frenchman is not \"drunk\". It's normal! Had he not been distracted or otherwise diverted the party would have gotten home 120mph in a Merc 600 on an empty double carriage way is not fast! Photographers should be governed by similar rules to sex. If the subject says \"NO\" it means no and any further advances become criminal. Given the tragedy as a fait accomplis, it could not have turned out better! Diana would not have wanted to survive with all the others dead. Dodi would certainly not have enjoyed surviving Diana and all the accusations that would have been levelled at him. The driver would certainly not have enjoyed surviving. But the body-gaurd has lived as a wittness. I hope the powers that be realise the danger he is in as the only real wittness and also ensure that his testimony is not influenced by being allowed to be exposed to any of the speculation that has been going on. His testimony HAS to be fresh and un-influenced to be worh a damn. God rest your blessed soul Diana and God help you Prince William!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 10, 1997 (23:21)", "body": "More from Grant Pollard, Earl's nighbor in South Africa. > Thanks for your reply Terry. Yes you may quote me. I'll offer a little something extra for an inteligent mind to take for a little walk. Each may draw their own conclusions according to their personal persuasions but why did Princess Diana die at exactly the right moment in time? As it is, Diana died without a single adverse comment about her personally or her work emerging from any paper, person or country. (Brave the person who tried right now!) The work Diana was possibly sent to do was done! The many wheels she set in motion are not going to stop simply because she is gone, in fact her work will quite possibly continue gathering momentum BECAUSE she is gone. Diana's children are both old enough to have formed the characters and attributes she wished for them to have. Had Diana survived even another day the speculation about her spending the night in Dodi's house alone would have gone mad. This would have alienated all the holders of moral high ground, a very large chunk of the world! Had she survived a few more months she was quite probably going to marry Dodi. This would have caused a catastrophic rift between Moslem and Christian, a rift she had up until then managed to bridge and a rift that is bad enough without being exasserbated! Had she survived a little longer we might have seen Moslem children forming part of the Royal Family which would have been an enormous technical hitch causing yet more fragmentation amongst her people. The disintigration of Diana's quite extraordinary mission to all the peoples who now so sincerely mourn her being taken from us would have continued at every turn in this dreadful world of prejudice and tradition. Sad as it may seem (for us) Diana died at just the moment she was supposed to, happy and preserved in our minds for ever just as she was!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "LorieS", "date": "Thu, Sep 11, 1997 (21:08)", "body": "Thanks for the info, Terry. It is true that Diana's life and death could have been viewed quite differently had she died earlier or later. I suppose that \"higher powers\" have their plans and that what appears to most of us as a life cut tragicly short can be the full life the person was intended to live. My mother-in-law, who is a shut-in, has been living by her television since this happened and seems to be taking Diana's death harder than she might that of a close friend or relative. How much of the public grief expressed over Diana's death do you think was media-made? In other words, if the television wasn't showing us lines of mourners waiting to offer flowers and sign condolence books, do you think the public outpouring of grief would have been as large? Particularly in this country (I can underst nd it among the British)?"}, {"response": 63, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 12, 1997 (01:12)", "body": "As this event starts to fade in this country, I hear that in France and Britain this is still very much in the forefront. Thanks to all the folks who have posted in this topic and those who have granted reprint permission is in order. Many lonely people need events like these to fill their lives, the OJ trial did this for many people for months on end. It is good that many of Diana's charities will be much better off now because of the interest she created and the efforts to support them now in her memory."}, {"response": 64, "author": "BobbyJr", "date": "Mon, Sep 15, 1997 (23:32)", "body": "I know that it is idealistic to expect people to become more than they are because of the loss of Diana, whether paparazzi or intoxicated driver. But would'nt it be great if we could all show each other as much love as she showed us."}, {"response": 65, "author": "legaffe", "date": "Wed, Oct  8, 1997 (03:00)", "body": "What is the address of your new Diana page?"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 18, 1997 (22:39)", "body": "So now Prince Charles is taking Prince Harry to see the Spice Girls in concert in S Africa, looks like he's trying to pick up for Diana."}, {"response": 67, "author": "legaffe", "date": "Sat, Nov  8, 1997 (23:45)", "body": "Looks like it. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 22, "subject": "PRINCESS DI MURDERED!", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 31, 1997 (22:51)", "body": "Five photographers were taken into custody by French police for their involvement. One guy was taking pictures with a commercial camera 15 seconds after the accident happened, according to the BBC. Diana single handedly gave a measure of respect to the dysfunctional royal family. She carried on a mission to help people with AIDS, homeless people and her travels highlighted trouble spots around the world. Her presence lent credence and sustained these causes. Do you feel, like I do, that these good qualities of hers came to the fore in her untimely death. I find myself feeling a true kinship with her now that I never realized while she was alive. I was most profoundly affected by seeing the pictures of her with Mother Theresa, who I greatly admire. The Royal Palace set up an official condolences website at http://www.Royal.gov.uk The Red Cross has declared that the recent advances in the campaign against landmines were largely the result of Diana's public visits to Angola and Bosnia. AIDS charities say she is irreplaceable. Someone said that had she lived she would have become a mix of Audrey Hepburn and Eleanor Roosevelt, I agree. Perhaps through a little of Mother Theresa and Jackie Onassis into the mix. The dysfunctioning Royal family owes her a Royal Funeral with a week of resting in State for the dignity and grace she has brought to them. Hopefully, Charles can take up a cause or two on her behalf instead of carrying on with a life of polo and weekend excursions and affairs out of his marriage. Hopefully, Diana has brought the kids to a state where he can't mess them up too much. If you have to cry over this, let it rip. Diana is deserving of our tears and our respect."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  1, 1997 (14:49)", "body": "We already have a Princess Di topic, so I'm freezing this one and relocating these comments. This is not a criticism of the person creating the topic or their views, just standard policy to combine duplicate topics."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 14, 1997 (16:24)", "body": "> > Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 95 > > ======================================= > > (\"Quid coniuratio est?\") > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >\"Ru Mills\" -- > > WHOEVER CONTROLS PRINCESS DIANA CONTROLS THE WORLD > > ================================================== > > > >Princess Diana and her soon-to-be husband, Dodi Fayed, were >fatally injured in the Pont de l'Alma tunnel. The site is >ancient, dating back to the time of the Merovingian kings (ca. >500 - 751 A.D.), and before. In pre-Christian times, the Pont de >l'Alma was a pagan sacrificial site. Note that in the pagan >connotation, at least, sacrifice is not to be confused with >murder: the sacrificial victim had to be a willing participant. > >In the time of the Merovingian kings, the Pont de l'Alma was an >underground chamber. Founder of the Merovingian dynasty was >Merovaeus, said to be descended from the union of a sea creature >and a French queen. Merovaeus followed the pagan cult of Diana. >In Middle English, \"soul\" (Alma) has as etymology \"descended from >the sea.\" \"Pont,\" has as a Latin root \"pontifex,\" meaning a >Roman high priest. (See also pons, pontis -- bridge; passage.) >\"Alma\" comes from the Latin \"almus,\" meaning nourishing. One >translation of Pont de l'Alma would be \"bridge of the soul.\" >Another would be \"passage of nourishment.\" All true European >royalty is descended from the Merovingians, which are believed to >be descendants of Jesus Christ. > >During the Merovingian era, if two kings had a dispute over >property, it was settled in combat at Pont de l'Alma. According >to legend, anyone killed there goes straight to Heaven and sits >at the right hand of God, watching over all his foe was to do. >The person killed in combat was actually considered to be the >\"winner,\" since he became God's eyes on earth and even could >manipulate events. > >The current British royal family are imposters. The House of >Windsor is a fraud. But the lineage of Lady Diana Spencer goes >back to Charles II of the House of Stewart. The House of Stewart >is of *true* royal blood. Diana's sons, William and Harry, have >3-quarters true nobility in their blood. > >Princess Diana was in a powerful position. Two main factions >vied for control over her: (1) the New World Order faction, >founded on an alliance between King William III (Bank of England, >modern system of finance, and \"national debt\" all beginning >during his reign) and later, the Rothschilds, and (2) the true >nobility of Europe. > >*Within* the New World Order faction, there are smaller, warring >factions, exemplified by Rothschilds vs. Rockefellers. The plan >of the New World Order faction was to marry Lady Diana to an >American. Even though Bill Clinton has bastard roots in the >Rockefeller clan, he is rejected by them and is aligned with the >Rothschilds. Bill Clinton was the designated future husband for >Lady Diana, with Hillary Clinton to be eliminated through divorce >or even murder. The Rockefellers were furious; in no way would >they allow a marriage between Bill Clinton and Lady Diana. In >Great Britain, Prince William would be on the throne by age 25; >if Prince Charles did not abdicate, he would be assassinated. > >Then, Prince Harry and the living Lady Diana would have moved to >the U.S. Harry would become a U.S. citizen and go into politics, >becoming perhaps a U.S. Senator. By then, whoever controlled the >two boys -- Prince William and Prince Harry -- would control the >world. > >But in her last visit to the White House, circa January 1997, >Lady Diana informed Mr. Bill Clinton that in no way, shape, or >form would she *ever* marry him. (While in America, Lady Diana >also met with John Kennedy, Jr.) Diana chose, instead, to marry >for love. (Jackie Kennedy married Aristotle Onassis for power; >he could protect her.) > >Dodi Fayed, beloved of Lady Diana, is a cousin of Adnan >Khashoggi, a CIA asset involved in sales of arms to Iran -- he >and Oliver North. Adnan Khashoggi is part of the Saudi royal >family. Through marrying Dodi Fayed, Diana would have been >marrying into the Saudi royal family. She might have had to >convert to Islam. > >British intelligence (MI-6) arranged the deaths of Lady Diana and >Dodi Fayed. It was imperative that the Saudi royal family not >have control over Diana. The driver of the ill-fated Mercedes >was a \"Manchurian candidate\" (brainwashed tool), with connections >to the French military. How did so much alcohol get into his >system? Amounts suggested in mass media reports are truly >staggering -- so much alcohol that the driver would have had to >been carried to the car. The way it happened was, the driver was >made to swallow special slowly-digestible balloons containing >high-potency alcohol. While he drove, the balloons were slowly >digested and he became dangerous behind the wheel. > >But even within British intelligence there are factions. A rogue >faction in MI-6, powerless to prevent the a"}]}, {"num": 23, "subject": "Paparazzi", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (03:26)", "body": "Don't let us kill us. It's really up to all of us to stop buying this trash, and watching this garbage on tv. Where's a demand there will be a supplier. In the previous topic, there are numerous efforts mentioned to boycott and stop juicing the tabloids and tv shows that offer outrageous amounts for these photos, sometimes as much as a million dollars for a single photograph."}, {"response": 2, "author": "GTX", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (03:31)", "body": "Agreed. But 98% blame belongs to the Newspaper and media editors who put up the large sums to buy photos.... similar to Mafia issuing a contract"}, {"response": 3, "author": "apihaka", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (04:01)", "body": "An international boycott on all magazines, newspapers, their printers and publishers in honour of Princess Diana for at least one day is neccessary."}, {"response": 4, "author": "EllenAK", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (04:11)", "body": "Please send an EMail message to President Clinton at www.whitehouse.gov urging him to attend the funeral of Princess Diana in person. Given the vast outpouring of grief from Americans in reponse to Diana's death, I feel the President should set aside normal protocol and attend the funeral."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (10:00)", "body": "The paparazzi defense lawyer says they couldn't do anything at the scene because they weren't trained rescuers or medical people. But apparently they weren't consoling the dying or being concerned, they were blocking the way of people genuinely trying to help."}, {"response": 6, "author": "nightsky", "date": "Tue, Sep  2, 1997 (10:36)", "body": "There can be no defence for standing and watching while people are in difficulty. Go and buy some of these womens magazines and watch them BURN!!! media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 24, "subject": "media appearances of springeurs", "response_count": 127, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (07:39)", "body": "This might come into play when we get bigger. When we grow up. Someday. Who knows, could even happen now."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 17, 1999 (05:21)", "body": "Karen has been on Jeopardy."}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 17, 1999 (13:43)", "body": "cool!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 17, 1999 (17:34)", "body": "Yeah, she came in second to someone who was a real 'ringer'...she \"done good!\" And, I have the video tape....*grinning evilly*"}, {"response": 5, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:34)", "body": "I qualified for Jep in 1987, but never got the call. If they don't call within six months, one must requalify. Have not had another opportunity. I did interview Alex Trebek on KPOI-FM (Honolulu). That's how I got the courtesy sitting at the contestant search. They nearly never put radio people who help them find contestants on the show. Then again, most don't qualify, either. But even if they do, they'd rather not put them on and have the local listeners/viewers think something was rigged. Remembe Ralph Fiennes (sorry Marcia, but Wolf is drooling) as Charlie Van Doren in \"Quiz Show.\" (great flick!)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (23:00)", "body": "Congrats, John, I never knew! But, I am not surprised in the least. I should have put Alex on my top 5 male Babes - I really enjoy him...from the anonymity of the LR couch. And, Yes, good movie...(For Wolf, I forgive you anything.)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (03:01)", "body": "Alex is tall, tan, trim, dignified in bearing, impressive without being imperious--although occasionally he sounds imperious, obsequious and ostentatious on the show when no one rang in and he says \"that was the VERY FAMOUS....\" (especially in the opera category)! Of course, it's pretty damn easy to be brilliant when you have the answer cards in your hand! :-) Actually, he looks in person like a retired tennis pro."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (03:08)", "body": "I still like him - an intellectual snob I can deal with. He is 6th on my top 5 list."}, {"response": 9, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (05:02)", "body": "I still like him, too. In fact, I wouldn't mind being on the receiving end of his \"VERY FAMOUS\" spiel."}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (05:16)", "body": "This is true...*sigh*"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (01:48)", "body": "i think he's funny to watch. he blurts out the answers like he's saying \"and you didn't know that?\""}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (02:36)", "body": "It's part of his boyish charm, I think!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (03:19)", "body": "I like the way he says \"Yeah\" in an almost disgusted, clipped tone when someone answers an easy question."}, {"response": 14, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (18:51)", "body": "Yeah"}, {"response": 15, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (19:14)", "body": "Does my twice weekly radio program count as a \"media appearance?\" It's on the worldwide web."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "Most assuredly! Do tell the good people when and the URL for listening...they forget from week to week! 11am - 2pm Austin time, is it? and can be heard on http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/"}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (19:36)", "body": "Oh yes, that is Saturdays and Sundays...."}, {"response": 18, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (19:38)", "body": "11-4 Sat. CDT, 11-3 Sun. after time change will be 10-3 Sat. 10-2 Sun. CST (Austin time)"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:10)", "body": "thanks, John. I am in telnet and terry asked for the information in internet broadcasting. I can do it unless you get there first...!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:45)", "body": "Post a reminder Friday night if you care to, just the night before it's on!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:53)", "body": "One or the other or both of us will do!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:25)", "body": "I run a banana boat disguised as music mag. superstar has a weekly show on Radio X in Frankfurt ( http://www.radiox.de ; sorry, no webcasting YET - mail them, and request that! radiox@inm.de ). Our show superstar rotation is hosted by editors and co-writers. More infos in http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/music/59"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (23:35)", "body": "thanks!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (02:05)", "body": "Cool, Alexander ...you're on radio X, I'm on \"double X\""}, {"response": 25, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (08:21)", "body": "Which is where you both, no doubt, belong...."}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (08:21)", "body": "the X-waves...."}, {"response": 27, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:36)", "body": "In my case, maybe the \"ex\" waves..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (18:06)", "body": "Is there something you are trying to tell us?!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (18:56)", "body": "How mysterious of you, John! Perhaps a new show idea? Or an old acquaintance called upon you? BTW, how fitting I rate only one \"X\" and you two... wonder what Springizen would qualify for XXX ..."}, {"response": 30, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (18:57)", "body": "... on the other hand, don't tell me. I can guess myself. Some things better be left unsaid."}, {"response": 31, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (18:58)", "body": "Though, hehe, that'd be quite an idea... What kinda broadcast would that be!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (19:07)", "body": "Fascinating, Alexander...continue thinking with your fingers, but give more details...my mind is racing to places it has not been for a while!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "Shops with a lot of capital-lettered Xes on the door?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (22:30)", "body": "Talking triple-X and ZZ Top the other day, there's a new CD out now (or soon), which is called - if I decifered the poster correctly - just \"XXX\"."}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (22:41)", "body": "Hard to believe, but I have never been in a shop with XXX on it...or even one X. Is that for lots of kisses? or X-rays? Hmmm....?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (02:22)", "body": "There is no such thing as XXX, except in clothes sizes and of course, moonshine. There is no more \"X\" in the movies. It is NC-17. The porno industry, which does not submit its films for ratings, uses XXX strictly as a marketing ploy. Some of my favorite art/literary movies have been sold under the specious XXX banner, such as \"Shakespeare in Lust,\" \"Pride and Priapics,\" \"Sense and Sensuality,\" \"Withering Heights,\" \"Ivan's Ho,\" \"Rumpleforeskin\"..."}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (02:31)", "body": "Great titles! Dontcha wonder what else creative minds like those have conjured up for entertainment!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (02:34)", "body": "Those titles are all mine. Now, I need to make the films."}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 16, 1999 (05:21)", "body": "For Real??? You have talents you have not yet used (that I am aware of...) How smart thou art!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 16, 1999 (05:24)", "body": "Just a reminder that John will be on KWXX tomorrow morning/afternoon depending on where you lived - 11-4 Sat. CDT, 11-3 Sun. after time change will be 10-3 Sat. 10-2 Sun. CST (Austin time) Broadcast over the Internet http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/"}, {"response": 41, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (04:46)", "body": "Two of my poems (both lighter pieces...) have just been web published in _Poetry_Now_ e-zine. Let me say for the record (since Marcia thinks I should) that the first one is a parody of Walt Whitman (who was gay). I wrote it with what if he were writing poetry now in mind. It does not reflect my own sexuality. OK, enough for disclaimer...here's the URL: http://www.poetrynow.org/Volume%20II%20poetry.htm"}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (05:00)", "body": "Thanks for posting it here. The more to appreciate your talents. (Some guys will not go into a Poetry Conference for fear of losing their .... dakines!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (06:13)", "body": "It's safer than drool."}, {"response": 44, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "Dakines? Where's da diction...?"}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (19:47)", "body": "(In local Hawaiian pidgin there is no diction...) Poor John - ANY place is safer than Drool...!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (23:28)", "body": "Alexander, \"da kine\" is a catch-all phrase in Hawaii Creole English (pidgin) which can mean any person, place, thing, or concept. But the context in which it is used is crucial. Almost always, when a pidgin speaker says \"da kine,\" a listener well-versed in pidgin knows exactly to what the speaker is referring. In Marcia's case, she was talking about \"dick-tion.\" As for diction, in HCE \"pidgin,\" the consonant blend \"th\" is pronounced \"d\" at the beginning or in the middle of a word and \"t\" at the end. English Pidgin this dis that dat further furdah mother maddah father faddah third turd fourth fort width wit length da kine"}, {"response": 47, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 21, 1999 (00:20)", "body": "Beautiful, John...*lol* Indeed, you caught the very essence of my comment but so...um...presentably...Mahalo, bra'"}, {"response": 48, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (20:25)", "body": "A kind of what bra? \"Wonda-bra\", or \"wonder(ful), bro'\"?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (06:13)", "body": "\"Bra\" or \"Brah\" is short for \"Braddah,\" (brother), which is how locals here informally address males (either familiar or unfamiliar) in pidgin. So the wonderful \"bro\" is more appropriate than the \"wonda-bra.\" Speaking about bras, how about that heavy-duty number Britney Spears has been sporting? She claims to not have a boob job, but if that's the case, why does she suddenly need a steel-belted radial bra, Brah?"}, {"response": 50, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "...Child-bearing is the only other reason I know about..."}, {"response": 51, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (21:10)", "body": "Don't they sell some kind of gymnastics-intrument with which you could increase your breast-width in the U.S.? I think they showed something like this on TV ( That's what we learn about America! *grin*)"}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (21:24)", "body": "Width, yes - opens up the rib cage. Size, NO!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (22:05)", "body": "Oooh!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (22:08)", "body": "...i think I've got enough \"rib cage width\"...."}, {"response": 55, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (00:50)", "body": "If Britney Spears is pregnant (she is just 17)...the tabloid press would certainly not miss that."}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (01:28)", "body": "Could she be augmenting or whatever and holding the augmentation in her steel-belted radials?!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 21, 1999 (21:46)", "body": "The 10th annual Big Island Invitational Basketball Tournament (BIIBT) will be held this coming week Friday thru Sunday at the Hilo Civic Auditorium (also known as the Afook-Chinen). Cincinnati and U of Arkansas will be playing and their games will be televised on Fox Sports West on Saturday and on all Fox Sports nationally on Sunday 5pm our time (9pm Austin time). Maybe I will be on National TV since my place to sell T-shirts is just inside the foyer from the playing floor and I stand against the archway to watch on occasion. I have seen myself on replays. Watch if you dare, but it is your chance to see where I hang out for the Basketball season. You will most certainly not see the UH-Hilo Vulcans play. We are not in their (Cincinnati's or Arkansas')bracket and the NCAA only allows a few exhibition games... But you will see my friends. I know just about every local who attends by name"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 21, 1999 (21:46)", "body": "Oh, and you will see John, as well...*grin*"}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 22, 1999 (15:12)", "body": "Will you wear something distinctive and tell us what it is so we can find you easier? And will you post the game times?"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 22, 1999 (20:05)", "body": "I will do that. I just listened to our coach being interviewed on the radio. Saturday's game begins at 5pm HST (9pm Austin time)...but I will verify that with John to be certain. I believe I will be in white top since it will stand out from the \"team color\" shirts which will be everywhere. Will let you know about that, as well. I know I will have tinsel garlands in my hair (braided like a halo - I do it every year)"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 22, 1999 (22:41)", "body": "Actually, white altoghther would be the best...Look for me. Sunday I will be all in red."}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (05:00)", "body": "Carry a banner and hold it up and let us know what you write. If you use the letters of the network that broadcasts the game and work in some clever phrase you'll be sure to get some major airtime."}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (18:44)", "body": "Not sure I want them Zooming in on me quite that tightly as they usually do with banner-carriers. I am not an exhibitionist - more like a timid back-row person. But, looking at the benches where the teams sit, my doorway is off to the left of the picture and I get in the picture quite regularly. I will be there and I am sure you will be able to see me leaning against the doorway. Last night during practice we were at the Civic creating an enlarged media room and I got to see a backboard smashed (by on of our hotdoggers). I have added several interesting pieces to my \"rock\" collection! I will probably be walking with messaged back of the scorers' table between the team seats ior behind the media table where John will be holding forth. I just may go to see him - just because so you know who he is. This sounds like fun...!"}, {"response": 64, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (20:13)", "body": "Paul, will you tape it and broadcast the good parts over the Spring Cam... so I can see it too!?!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (20:17)", "body": "I was afraid someone was gonna say that...*grin*"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 24, 1999 (17:51)", "body": "Sure thing, ti."}, {"response": 67, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 24, 1999 (20:24)", "body": "yeah!!!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 24, 1999 (20:33)", "body": "(fortunately, she asked him to save the \"good parts\"....*whew* Guess I wiggled off the hook again *grin*)"}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (06:09)", "body": "To see all UHHilo Vulcan games on the Vulcan Sports Network, go to http://uhhilo.rivals.com/ They will webcast the games which are not covered by Fox (and perhaps the ones which are, as well). More stuff there than I ever knew about UHHilo Vulcans! Oh, and there is a very impressive Fox Sports uplink \"trailer\" parked beside the Civic tonight. They will have two up and two down cameras all fed out by fiber optics which was installed yesterday. 50 pro scouts have registered...the list goes on and on. Tomorrow more news, I hope!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (06:34)", "body": "Game times listed as Austin time (CST) 11/26 4pm - Cincinnati vs Cleveland (All times Austin time) 6:30pm - Rhode Island vs Santa Clara 9pm - Arkansas vs Washington 11:30pm - Iowa State vs UHHilo 11/27 Game times (teams depending on the outcome of the previous day's play) 4pm 6:30pm 9pm (televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm 11/28 12:30 pm last game in elimination games 3:30 pm - Consolation game 6pm - Third place game 8:30pm - Championship game (televised on all Fox sports networks"}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (13:30)", "body": "I set TIVO to record these times: 11/26 5:30 - 7:30 pm Cinn vs Cleve 11/27 6:30 - 7:00 pm 8:00 - 8:30 pm 11/28 8:30 - 10:00 pm Championship game It's on channel 637 on DirectTV"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 25, 1999 (18:50)", "body": "If anyone misses this it is because they were not paying attention *lol* I think we covered all the bases on the Big Island Invitational!"}, {"response": 73, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (16:51)", "body": "Time changes for the Big Island Invitational on FOX Game times listed as Austin time (CST) 11/26 4pm - Cincinnati vs Cleveland (televised by Fox Sport Wext) 6:30pm - Rhode Island vs Santa Clara 9pm - Arkansas vs Mercer (Televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm - Iowa State vs UHHilo 11/27 Game times (teams depending on the outcome of the previous day's play) 4pm 6:30pm (televised by Fox Sport West) 9pm (televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm 11/28 12:30 pm last game in elimination games 3:00 pm - Consolation game 5:30pm - Third place game 8:00pm - Championship game *time changed*(televised on all Fox sports networks) 6:30pm - Rhode Island vs Santa Clara 9pm - Arkansas vs Mercer (Televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm - Iowa State vs UHHilo 11/27 Game times (teams matchups depending on the outcome of the previous day's play) 4pm 6:30pm(televised by Fox Sport West) 9pm (televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm 11/28 12:30 pm last game in elimination games 3:30 pm - Consolation game 6pm - Third place game 8:30pm - Championship game (televised on all Fox sports networks All UHhilo Games available on the internet at \">VULCANS"}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "Oops, SORRY VULCANS"}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (17:03)", "body": "Time changes for the Big Island Invitational on FOX Game times listed as Austin time (CST) 11/26 4pm - Cincinnati vs Cleveland (televised by Fox Sport Wext) 6:30pm - Rhode Island vs Santa Clara 9pm - Arkansas vs Mercer (Televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm - Iowa State vs UHHilo 11/27 Game times (teams depending on the outcome of the previous day's play) 4pm 6:30pm (televised by Fox Sport West) 9pm (televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm 11/28 12:30 pm last game in elimination games 3:00 pm - Consolation game 5:30pm - Third place game 8:00pm - Championship game *time changed*(televised on all Fox sports networks) 6:30pm - Rhode Island vs Santa Clara 9pm - Arkansas vs Mercer (Televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm - Iowa State vs UHHilo 11/27 Game times (teams matchups depending on the outcome of the previous day's play) 4pm 6:30pm(televised by Fox Sport West) 9pm (televised by Fox Sport West) 11:30pm 11/28 12:30 pm last game in elimination games 3:30 pm - Consolation game 6pm - Third place game 8:30pm - Championship game (televised on all Fox sports networks All UHhilo Games available on the internet at \">VULCANS"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 26, 1999 (17:59)", "body": "I am wearing all black with a black tournament shirt. John will not be broadcasting for TV - just local radio, but will be doing stats so you just might see him - at least on the Vulcan hot link above."}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (00:27)", "body": "Sit by the green cooler (or whatever it is) in the first row all the way on the end. The camera shows this every time down the court. Otherwise, we'll never see you. Man, what a small gym! And the top team in the nation is playing (Cinncy); they look they're going to jump out of the gym."}, {"response": 78, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (00:28)", "body": "Green Cooler, Marci!"}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (17:39)", "body": "Ok Terry. All white today....I know the green cooler - it sits just in front of where the extra bleachers are. I will go there. I knew our gym would appear small - especially with the huge wide-angle lenses they have on their cameras. Cincinnati was amazing. They clobbered Rollie Massamino's Cleveland State 91-56 We played terribly and was very happy it was only on the internet. Today: 4pm Austin time, Cleveland State vs Rhode Island 6:30pm Cincinnati vs Santa Clara 9pm Arkansas vsIowa State (should be the best game today) 11:30 pm Mercer vs UHHilo."}, {"response": 80, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 27, 1999 (20:38)", "body": "For the incredibly curious or terminally bored, Marci hunting should be aided by noting that I am clad in a long-sleeved white top and tan pants. Gold wreath in my hair. Happy hunting for Marci and other locals - like John...Rollie Massimino is easy to find. He is having apoplexy on the sidelines...but all coaches seem to do that!"}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 28, 1999 (17:29)", "body": "Today I am in cranberry with a fluffy silver wreath in my hair. I cannot stand by the green water coolers because it is in the way of traffic flow and where spectators are not allowed. I did sit and stand behind the one at the stage end for a while yeaterday during the Cinncy game. Big game to day for the championship game is Iowa State vs Cincinnati at 8pm Austin time. I will be there and so will Fox, and rivals.com. We play Cleveland State and Rollie Massimino at 8:30 this morning for who gets the booby prize...I have no doubt it will be us. See you there. Aloha!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 29, 1999 (15:54)", "body": "Did anyone see Marcia or John??"}, {"response": 83, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 29, 1999 (18:09)", "body": "Terry has been silent for 2 days on it, so I surmise he has not had time to look at the tapes. I stood against the wall 4 feet behind the green water cooler for most of the championship game yesterday. The day before I walked the entire length of the gym to the end with the cheerleaders dressed in black and even sat where I was fairly obvious. Unfortunately, John, at the media table, was probably invisible. He wore a black shirt last night and a bluish-grey-white patterned shirt the day before.I am s re I could pick me out of the mob-scene. Alas, I could not hang around the water coolers because they were right next to where the players sit and the trainer works. Security would have whisked me away in a second!"}, {"response": 84, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 29, 1999 (20:07)", "body": "But that certainly would've made the television camera cuts!!"}, {"response": 85, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 29, 1999 (21:07)", "body": "I would think so. Even with the masses surrounding me. Terry surely has the option of pause, rewind, slo-mo forward, freeze-frame. I was backed up against a gray-painted wall abutment so I was not lost in the crowd. Wearing what most else were wearing - some variety of maroon, only I had one of those bottle-brush looking silver tinsel garlands entwined with holly around my head like a Halo. People came by and talked to me. The day before that, when I was in white top and tan slacks with gold halo in y hair, I was at the end with the Cincinnati cheerleaders in black and sat on those bleachers or else leaned abainst a similar wall abutment as I did yeaterday. Surely I am not that difficult to discern, and I am sure they were zeroed in my line of sight during a lot of the free-throws yesterday. What I was wearing might have looked brown on the telly...but I should have been noticable with the silvery halo!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 30, 1999 (12:45)", "body": "I looked, twice on the tape, slow motioning and everything but I couldn't spot you! I tried!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 30, 1999 (20:11)", "body": "Ok...I understand how difficult it can be...and my real big time effort to be visible was on the last day when your TIVO did not tape. Oh well, Next time. Thanks for the expenditure of so much energy...I hate disappointing you...*sigh*"}, {"response": 88, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 30, 1999 (20:15)", "body": "Actually, my 12 minutes of fame were subject to the producer and director in the uplink \"truck\" with all the little tv monitors (one per camera). I was indeed being video-taped, but the guy in the truck decided what you would see at any given moment from the 6 or so cameras sprinkled around the floor. I wonder if anyone tried the internet feed to rivals.com. They seemed to have one camera down with mike man and one up. No way to tape that one. I did not think to tape the one on Sunday just in case... wonder if anyone did..."}, {"response": 89, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 11, 1999 (05:23)", "body": "The third issue of The Hawaii Journal to which John Burnett is a contributing writer is found at http://hawaiijournal.com/"}, {"response": 90, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (02:44)", "body": "Good piece on growing hemp in Hawaii this morning on NPR, today was the inauguration of the first plot of industrial hemp. Did you hear about that?"}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (04:03)", "body": "Not in the that particular journal, but it has been discussed for at least 20 years. Guys even run on the Hemp ticket in elections, wear shirts made of the stuff, jackets, pants, hats.... Is is very strong - much like flax, but if you want to raise hemp for fiber it will fall under the poppyseed growers litigation, I am sure. Strictly regulated and only a few allowed to do it legally. Meanwhile \"everyone\" in the back woods of the volcano and Puna districts is growing their own and some for other peop e as well. Cash only. They bought large items such as $60,000 trucks and more expensive than that houses for cash. Now there is a law that any transaction over $10,000 must be in a traceable form - not just cash. Our bumbling bureaucrats blunder again."}, {"response": 92, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (04:06)", "body": "Just enquired of the other house inhabitant and he said it was on Oahu and the neighbors were furious - in a residential area...but this was some time ago. I will check and let you know. (Read: I'm gonna ask John!)"}, {"response": 93, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (04:49)", "body": "John reports: The first industrial hemp plot in Hawaii will be in Whitmore Village,Oahu, just north of Wahiawa on land that used to be former Dole Pineapple land. The Navy is hoping that the stuff is not psychoactive as the plot abuts the Naval Communication Station which serves all the Eastern Pacific fleet. State Representative Cynthia Thielen (R-Kailua, O`ahu) was the driving force behind legislation that made this plot possible. The plot is used by a company which uses hemp flowers in herbal shampoo...they plan to sell the fibers overseas to companies that make products, including clothes, from the fibers."}, {"response": 94, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (06:32)", "body": "The American flag, made out of hemp. The Constitution. The Declaration of Independence. Why do you think they've withstood the rigors of time?"}, {"response": 95, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (02:22)", "body": "You do not have to sell me on the virtues of Hemp fiber. The banner headline and feature article in the local newspaper this morning is State plants legal hemp. The URL for this strange newspaper is http://hilohawaiitribune.com/ But, they do not have this article online yet. Apparently it is a UH Manoa project to grow it. Induustrial hemp of this sort is a non-haluciogenic cousin of the more imfamous pot. George Washington grew it on his land...(not pot!)"}, {"response": 96, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (19:44)", "body": "I hear the Hawaii plot is surrounded by razor wire, even though the thc content of these plants is miniscule."}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (20:26)", "body": "Yup - the newsapaer said 12' high cyclone fence topped with razor wire and round the clock infrared surveillance. Never under estimate the stupidity of kids looking for a cheap high!"}, {"response": 98, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (20:38)", "body": "John Burnett will be calling the games on KSFS radio for Augustana College in the Coconut Coast Classic Tournament (Basketball) You can hear his most excellent play-by-play style by tuning in on the Internet at http://www.ksfs.com/ This is the schedule I posted on the Booster VClub news page: *Coconut Coast Classic* : UHHilo will host this 5th Annual AmeriSports Tournament on December19 through December 21 at the Civic. The Tournament begins on Sunday with three women's games: 10am = North Dakota vs Huntingdon. Noon = Southwest State vs Ashland. 2 pm = Augustana vs Gannon. Men's competition begins at 4pm with Ashland vs Truman State. 7pm = North Dakota vs UHHilo. Monday's games with the women's games first are: 9 am = North Dakota vs Ashland. 11 am = Southwest State vs Gannon. 1 pm = Huntingdon vs Augustana. Men's games follow at 3 pm = North Dakota vs Ashland. 5 pm = Nebraska-Omaha vs UHHilo. The Tournament ends with a single game on Tuesday 4 pm = Nebraska-Omaha vs Truman State. All times HST. For Austin time add 4 hours."}, {"response": 99, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (14:50)", "body": "Southwest State? SW Texas State or ?"}, {"response": 100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (19:49)", "body": "Would you believe: Southwest State University 1501 State Street Marshall, MN 56258"}, {"response": 101, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (19:50)", "body": "They are the Mustangs, too. I wonder what they are southwest of?!"}, {"response": 102, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 20, 1999 (23:16)", "body": "John Burnett is at this moment broadcasting on the Internet from Hilo's Civic auditorium - women's Basketball between Augustana and Huntingdon http://www.ksfs.com/ Click on Listen Live on the lower left."}, {"response": 103, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec 20, 1999 (23:38)", "body": "Cool! I hear him, I hear him!"}, {"response": 104, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (00:25)", "body": "From Hilo! And I can hear the tractor and truck ads from Sioux Falls, SD... Fantastic."}, {"response": 105, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (16:25)", "body": "did he have a touch of a cold yesterday?? sounded stuffy occasionally"}, {"response": 106, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (18:46)", "body": "That is what I am guessing although he can sound that way anyway (lots of smokers outside the Civic stand in the doorway to watch the game as they smoke and it gets sucked in - which is one of the reasons I did not attend the games.) Have never discussed his adenoids with him..."}, {"response": 107, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (21:02)", "body": "John Burnett is doing overtime today on http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/ He will be on till 7 PM Austin time."}, {"response": 108, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (00:31)", "body": "Gosh, another half hour, will have to tune in!"}, {"response": 109, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (00:51)", "body": "The guy he was subbing for yesterday a[ppeared today so all I had to listen to of John was the pre-recorded 6 hr show he did the day before. As I listened we emailed back and forth - it is fascinating to be listening to the guy you are writing Email to. He said it takes about 3/4 to an hour to tape all the intros and spots for a 6 hour show. He must be REALLY good at this (he IS!!!) He will not be back on internet till Saturday and Sunday at his usual places unless someone else gets sick."}, {"response": 110, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (04:43)", "body": "Tomorrow and Sunday John will be broadcasting from Hilo oh KXWW from 10am til 4mp on the internet http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/"}, {"response": 111, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (06:10)", "body": "Correction on the hours listed above. KWXX will only be four hours (10 am to 2 pm Austin time). My mistake. Sorry. http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/"}, {"response": 112, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (02:53)", "body": "And John will be with us on New Year's Day again on that same station."}, {"response": 113, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (15:28)", "body": "Any big Millenium Celebrations planned for the Islands, you guys are kind of like the last place to see the New Century right?"}, {"response": 114, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "Actually, Samoa is the last before the dateline - and Guam... To give you some idea of what new Years' Eve os like here, everyone sells fireworks - from the biggest grocery stores to vacant lot lean-tos. Aerial works are banned and the officials have confiscated 14 TONS of illegal fireworks - sky rockets mostly. The militaryu on Oahu usually sets off big displays for the populace as they have ordnance experts in house. We will have the usual ones = each family setting off thousands of dollars worth at heir own homes. You'd have to be deaf and blind and not breathing to miss the show. Earlier on before this evening's bangup sendoff, we will have an early basketball game (we won last night) preceeded by a big tailgate party with live music. John will be broadcasting the game (keeping this on -topic!) I see that Austin is going to be celebrating big time! Hauoli Makahilki Hou, Terry!!!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (18:13)", "body": "Just heard that Guam is on the other side of the dateline (was changed several years ago) and they had no problems. Gonna watch the rest of the world very carefully!"}, {"response": 116, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (04:44)", "body": "Media appearances continue for John. He does all of the UHHilo Vulcan Basketball and baseball games live on radio, and I have a prize video of a game from the Kona baseball field wherein we whupped TCU in a super game. John was his amazing self, as usual. He still does daily 6am-noon shows and on weekend he does radio live and on the internet http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/ from 6-10 am HST or 10am - 2pm Austin time. He continues to write for the Hawaii Island Journal and has a regular column on the music scene here in the Islands. Great stuff, as always. He is also doing the local newspaper articles for the upcoming Annual Fund Drive. He is a busy man but they are not paying him what he is worth (like others I know...)"}, {"response": 117, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (04:49)", "body": "John will be on tomorrow in Austin on http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/ from 10am till 2 pm. Listen and enjoy!"}, {"response": 118, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (04:53)", "body": ""}, {"response": 119, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (04:56)", "body": "Oh yeah, he is also working on his thesis. For one wandering around Spring (it is very lonely tonight), U"}, {"response": 120, "author": "ommin", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (05:57)", "body": "Everyone is incredibly quiet today. Hardly anyone responding - must be sunspots! Hi Marcia I am on cause I shan't be able to go on so much for a few weeks. My 'relis' from U.K. arrive tomorrow. I shall try and read quickly though to see if I can store up."}, {"response": 121, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (17:41)", "body": "Hi Anne - welcome to this part of the Spring. Happy houseful. Last night it was even worse - but that WAS your today =) Very quiet, indeed!"}, {"response": 122, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (06:08)", "body": "Hope we see more of you Anne."}, {"response": 123, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (18:09)", "body": "I'll work on it...She posts in Geo and other places so I would hope we can keep her active now that she has her ISP problems fixed. Anne has many interest which fill fit very nicely into Spring...after she finished being the gracious hostess for the visiting \"relis.\" Good luck, Dear!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (19:25)", "body": "Hello Anne!"}, {"response": 125, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (18:51)", "body": "The Merrie Monarch Festival of Modern and Ancient Hula will be televised on the internet on http://www.merriemonarchlive.com/live.html Starting at 7pm HST (midnight CST) tonight they will choose Miss Hawaii Hula, the best single dancer in ancient and modern hula Friday, same times, they will choose the Halau (group from a school) men and women separately - in Hula kahiko (ancient) Saturday night - the best of all and most lovely - same time the modern or Hula awana. If you want to see 5 hours of the best of Hula in the entire world with Halaus from California, TEXAS, and Australia as well as from Hawaii, tune in. It is held in Hilo and the place is hopping!"}, {"response": 126, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul  4, 2000 (03:36)", "body": "From: \"John Burnett\" Subject: I'm on KNWB online now Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:02:26 GMT I am now \"live\" (pre-recorded voice tracks) daily on intenet 6 am to 10 am Hawaii time M-F, 6-noon Sat. Hawaii time). Station is KNWB Hilo, a rock/AC hybrid format called \"Classic Hits.\" That translates to: 11 am to 3 pm M-F, 11 am - 5 pm Sat. Central Daylight Time and 9 am to 1 pm M-F, 9 am to 3 PM Sat., Pacific Daylight time http://www.webradio.com on top of page at \"launch\" type in KNWB and hit \"go\" button. Our Hawaiian station, KWXX, which I'm on completely live on weekends, is webradio's 8th most popular station nationally. Aloha, John Burnett KWXX/KNWB, Hilo, HI"}, {"response": 127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep  4, 2000 (20:51)", "body": "Aloha all, This URL sounds seriously better than WEBRADIO for listening to KWXX. Much better audio quality, less buffering. We also hope to have KNWB-FM on it soon. I am on from 6 am to noon Saturday and 6 to 10 am Sunday HST on KWXX (6 to 10 am M-F and 6 am to noon Sat. on KNWB, which, unfortunately, is pre-recorded, or voice-tracked for you \"industry folks\"). Since recipients of this e-mail live in several different time zones you need to do the math if you care to listen. AOL users need to cut and paste URL. You may also need Windows Media Player. http://www.streamaudio.com/listen?station=KWXX John Burnett media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 25, "subject": "prison media muzzle", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (07:51)", "body": "December 29, 1995 CONTACT: Peter Y. Sussman, President Northern California Society of Professional Journalist (510) 845-1311 PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISTS DECRY PRISON CENSORSHIP The Northern California chapter of the nation's largest and oldest association of journalists today (12/29/95) denounced the decision by state officials to cut off all media interviews with state prisoners for an unspecified period of time. \"Our entire system of government is based on the public's right to know about the operation of public institutions,\" said Peter Y. Sussman, Northern California president of the Society of Professional Journalists. \"Prisons are public institutions - in California right now they are both newsworthy and controversial institutions - and no law or court ruling gives prison officials the right to hog-tie news media reporting for capricious reasons. Judging from the public comments of state prison officials, the reasons for the current ban on interviews are capricious in the extreme, based on political motivations not grounded in security or other legitimate penological concerns.\" State officials, in revealing the ban on prisoner interviews by news organizations, claimed that the ban is temporary, pending review of current policies to separate \"mainstream\" or \"legitimate\" news organizations from \"entertainment news, like radio or TV talk shows.\" SPJ's Sussman responded that there was no authority for prison officials to decide which journalists were worthy of reporting on prison issues. \"Freedom of the Press was enshrined in our Constitution specifically to guarantee the independence of the news media to report on issues of public concern,\" said Sussman. \"That independence does not exist when the very officials whose actions are being scrutinized are allowed to direct the news coverage. Especially at a time when prison issues are near the top of the public agenda - and when the state Department of Corrections has lost high-profile court suits challenging treatment of high-security and mentally ill inmates - it is imperative that the media have unfettered access to the prisoners whose rights have been upheld in court. Filtering of those reports through the prison bureaucracy is inimical both to the press' constitutional right to report on government affairs and the public's right to know how its government is conducting its business. \"It is true,\" Sussman continued, \"that some Supreme Court rulings give prisons a narrow right to limit media access to prisoners, but that right is based on the special security concerns of prisons and not on the political or personal whims of state officials. And even where security is a legitimate issue, the Supreme Court has highlighted the special and protected role of the media in covering prison issues.\" The assistant secretary of California's Youth and Adult Correctional Agency, J.P. Tremblay, has been quoted in media reports as defending the interview ban. Tremblay said, according to the reports, \"Why should some guy benefit from committing a crime? We did this because we didn't want to have inmates becoming celebrities and heroes.\" He also is quoted as saying, \"Our concern is that we do not want to have criminals glamorized or made celebrities by these types of shows. It goes counter to the purpose of incarceration, which is punishment for crime.\" Sussman, a longtime San Francisco journalist who has co-authored a book dealing in part with media-prisoner First Amendment issues, maintained that Tremblay's stated concerns were political in nature and therefore illegitimate. \"He appears to be concerned about prisoners' glamor, whatever that means, and for this reason - and not for the security reasons that might arguably justify such actions - he is willing to discard the public's and the media's cherished First Amendment guarantees. Well, the members of the Society of Professional Journalists - and I believe the public - are not willing to so easily relinquish their rights of citizenship.\" # # # media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 26, "subject": "Drudgery on the web - <A HREF=\"http://www.drudgerport.com\">http://www.drudgerport.com</A>", "response_count": 2, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (08:01)", "body": "Drudge, in case you haven't heard broke the Lewinski story while Newsweek held off, and is getting sued by Clintonite Blumenthal because he circulated the story that Blumenthal was a wifebeater. There, you're up to date. Executive summary dispensed. Now, on the the sordid and gory details. Did Drudge deliberately collaborate with the so called GOP right wing conspiracy on these stories, is he a bumbling idiot just out to make a name for himself, or?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (08:11)", "body": "And he now has a show on Fox tv. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 27, "subject": "Salon", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 28, "subject": "Lewinsky affair media coverage", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (08:25)", "body": "So Paula Jones got captured as a pawn in the right wing effort to dethrone Clinton and became a tool of these folks and then Monica got drug in, or should I say, drudged in? Starr has been, shall we say, aggressive in his pursuit of Clinton and stops not even short of using moms against daughters. We may be in a Lewinsky lull period right now but my prediction: Things will pick up again. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 29, "subject": "www.hotwired.com Wired News daily on the net", "response_count": 4, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "spif", "date": "Sat, Mar  7, 1998 (01:20)", "body": "\"her\" siriusness is R.U. Sirius, a person of the male persuasion (unless he's a she very effectively pretending to be a male). R.U. is more well known as the individual behind Mondo 2000 and various amusing and/or interesting works, not the least of which is _How To Mutate & Take Over The World_ (coauthored with St. Jude and the [in?]famous Internet 21). He is also (ir)responsible for Revolting! ( http://www.revolting.com/) . http://www.scrappi.com/"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (04:12)", "body": "This is an incredible site http://www.wired.com/news/ John Burnett in Hilo has a 6 hour morning show to do and I scour the internet for the weird and offbeat news for him to tailor to his needs. I just found this topic and investigated it...Holy Bonanza! What stuff of dreams this is. I just might have put myself out of business when I emailed him the URL."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (04:16)", "body": "Btw, the url in my last post is where I finally landed when I accessed the url listed in the intro. They must have dropped the \"hot\" from their website name."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (06:25)", "body": "A local guy, Will Kreth, was one of the founders of leading forces of hotwire. I just missed a hotwired party in SF. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 3, "subject": "Media mentions of the Spring", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (13:43)", "body": "The Spring was on last nights (Saturday) NBC Nightly news. They showed a Lycos screen with spring.com under a search for communities. The Spring is slated for some mention in a future Capital City Arts and Entertainment magazine. Check this out on your newstands."}, {"response": 2, "author": "joshd", "date": "Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (03:58)", "body": "What's Capital City Arts and Entertainment? I remember one of the local news stations doing a big--I mean big--story on the premiere issue of a local magazine a few months back. Was it Capital City?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (04:30)", "body": "It could have been. Capitol City is focused on the fine arts and performing arts and music scene. They're just releasing their second monthly issue with articles on Eric Johnson, Texas Cowgirls, Local Licks Live!, Clay Walker, KISS!, Chris Duarte, David Lee Garza, and Ian Moore. And Capitol is spelled with an \"o\". I never can get this right. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 30, "subject": "Live from LA, it's suicide on the freeway!", "response_count": 38, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May  2, 1998 (14:06)", "body": "One of the busiest LA interchanges was held up for an hour, costing S Cal economy well into 7 figures. They cut away from a kids cartoon show to show it, the four year olds needed to see this obviously! The guy did it because he was opposed to HMOs, and if you're in LA, the best way to get attention is to get in a freeway chase (a la OJ). The HMO refused to pay his Viagra subscription, one rumor has it. So the kiddies go from happy smurfland to blood and brains all over. Not pretty is it?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, May  2, 1998 (15:02)", "body": "that's disgusting. who needs to see that anyway, kids or adults.....geez!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May  2, 1998 (15:45)", "body": "It's the new way, everyone sees everything with no discrimination. Sad indeed."}, {"response": 4, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, May  2, 1998 (16:37)", "body": "and they wonder why kids are killing each other!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, May  2, 1998 (20:17)", "body": "i sometimes think that the news media nowadays is living by that old saying, \"It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.\""}, {"response": 6, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, May  2, 1998 (20:19)", "body": "And why people are getting rid of their TV sets! (a' la stacey) If I want to read the Nat'l Enquirer I'll buy one in the supermarket check-out line..."}, {"response": 7, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sun, May  3, 1998 (00:11)", "body": "hey, we got rid of j. springer here, so......."}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May  4, 1998 (14:09)", "body": "wow Paul, I had no idea journalism (generalization) had sunk that low. Is this sweeps week or something?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May  4, 1998 (16:31)", "body": "Next week is, there are about a dozen programs that will be broadcast in 3d, you'll need glasses. Details will be posted in the tv conference."}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May  5, 1998 (13:53)", "body": "more suicides in 3D?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, May  9, 1998 (15:33)", "body": "I'd watch that...not sure I'd want my kids to watch, though..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul  3, 1998 (23:06)", "body": "Hope it gives you the fright of your life, muffin!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (05:05)", "body": "You're mad at me, aren't you?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (14:39)", "body": "Would I call you muffin if I were mad at you?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "That would imply that I knew if you liked muffins or not..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (18:10)", "body": "I eat muffins by the hundreds - what does that imply?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (18:12)", "body": "that I really need to watch being around you warm and covered in butter?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (18:14)", "body": "Sure as he\ufffd\ufffd! Raw, cold, warm, buttery, jammy, crumbly, hard, soft, puffy - you just watch it, babe!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (18:16)", "body": "uhoh...I'm usually all of those at once..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (18:26)", "body": "yum yum! That's why you're so irresistable . . . Come here, let me taste ya!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (18:41)", "body": "*sigh*"}, {"response": 22, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (18:49)", "body": "That sure says it all - don't worry, I won't come near you."}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (19:47)", "body": "methinks you misinterpret..."}, {"response": 24, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (21:45)", "body": "you thinks?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (21:52)", "body": "well, when my feelings let me..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (22:06)", "body": "\ufffdeyebrow\ufffd Pretty sharp. Wer, could you tell me please why you created this topic? Don't you find it kinda eerie here?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (22:47)", "body": "didn't create it...just play around in it...kinda like a cemetery..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (06:49)", "body": "SHIVERS!!!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (11:23)", "body": "I started this topic, little did I know."}, {"response": 30, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (22:36)", "body": "YOU?! Little did we all know what depth and darkness lurked within our Spring King."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (14:46)", "body": "No darkness lurking here!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (17:42)", "body": "Just great depths! Great name for a topic though."}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (17:55)", "body": "Yep, the name rocks."}, {"response": 34, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (18:46)", "body": "Riette... unfortunatly (IMHO) the name springs from a real live TV broadcast of a man's successful suicide attempt. Guess the video media thought the suspense was worth capturing live and when the distraught (for lack of a real insightful word) decided to follow through, the gory scene was broadcast all around the country. the name has merit, but i don't believe the broadcast did."}, {"response": 35, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (21:34)", "body": "WHAT?! They put a person's suicide on TV?!!?!?!?! What kind of a sick thing is that to do?! And what kind of people watch that?!?! God help us."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (00:35)", "body": "LA people, a lot of 'em kids. Because they interuppted a kids tv show to bring you a live suicide. This is America, honey, the land of OJ, and Monica, and the Truman show. It's gotten, in some parts, where people demand all the news, no matter how obscene, as it happens. We been Simpsonized."}, {"response": 37, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (06:38)", "body": "That stinks."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (12:55)", "body": "According to the always-amusing News Blues site http://www.newsblues.com the situation isn't good at all in LA: http://www.newsblues.com/Stations/kabc.htm media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 31, "subject": "dead media project of Bruce Sterling", "response_count": 22, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov  8, 1998 (16:53)", "body": "Bruce Sterling bruces@well.sf.ca.us The DEAD MEDIA Project: A Modest Proposal and a Public Appeal by Bruce Sterling Ever notice how many books there are about the Internet these days? About 13,493 so far, right? And how about \"multimedia?\" There are 8,784 books on this topic, even though no one has ever successfully defined the term. CD-ROM -- is there a single marketable topic left that hasn't been shovelwared into the vast digital mire that is CD-ROM? And how about the \"Information Superhighway\" and \"Virtual Reality\"? Every magazine on the planet has done awestruck vaporware cover stories on these two consensus- hallucinations. Our culture is experiencing a profound radiation of new species of media. The centralized, dinosaurian one-to-many media that roared and trampled through the 20th century are poorly adapted to the postmodern technological environment. The new media environment is aswarm with lumbering toothy digital mammals. It's all lynxes here, and gophers there, plus big fat venomous webcrawlers, appearing in Pleistocene profusion. This is all well and good, and it's lovely that so many people are paying attention to this. Nothing gives me greater pleasure as a professional garage futurist than to ponder some weird new mutant medium and wonder how this squawking little monster is going to wriggle its way into the interstices between human beings. Still, there's a difference between this pleasurable contemplation of the technological sublime and an actual coherent understanding of the life and death of media. We have no idea in hell what we are doing to ourselves with these new media technologies, and no consistent way even to discuss the subject. Something constructive ought to be done about this situation. I can't do much about it, personally, because I'm booked up to the eyeballs until the end of the millennium. So is my good friend Richard Kadrey, author of the COVERT CULTURE SOURCEBOOK. Both Kadrey and myself, however, recently came to a joint understanding that what we'd really like to see at this cultural conjunction is an entirely new kind of book on media. A media book of the dead. Plenty of wild wired promises are already being made for all the infant media. What we need is a somber, thoughtful, thorough, hype-free, even lugubrious book that honors the dead and resuscitates the spiritual ancestors of today's mediated frenzy. A book to give its readership a deeper, paleontological perspective right in the dizzy midst of the digital revolution. We need a book about the failures of media, the collapses of media, the supercessions of media, the strangulations of media, a book detailing all the freakish and hideous media mistakes that we should know enough now not to repeat, a book about media that have died on the barbed wire of technological advance, media that didn't make it, martyred media, dead media. THE HANDBOOK OF DEAD MEDIA. A naturalist's field guide for the communications paleontologist. Neither Richard Kadrey nor myself are currently in any position to write this proposed handbook. However, we both feel that our culture truly requires this book: this rich, witty, insightful, profusely illustrated, perfectbound, acid-free-paper coffee-table book, which is to be brought out, theoretically, eventually, by some really with-it, cutting-edge early-21st century publisher. The kind of book that will appear in seventeen different sections of your local chainstore: Political Affairs, Postmodern Theory, Computer Science, Popular Mechanics, Design Studies, the coffeetable artbook section, the remainder table -- you know, whatever. It's a rather rare phenomenon for an established medium to die. If media make it past their Golden Vaporware stage, they usually expand wildly in their early days and then shrink back to some protective niche as they are challenged by later and more highly evolved competitors. Radio didn't kill newspapers, TV didn't kill radio or movies, video and cable didn't kill broadcast network TV; they just all jostled around seeking a more perfect app. But some media do, in fact, perish. Such as: the phenakistoscope. The teleharmonium. The Edison wax cylinder. The stereopticon. The Panorama. Early 20th century electric searchlight spectacles. Morton Heilig's early virtual reality. Telefon Hirmondo. The various species of magic lantern. The pneumatic transfer tubes that once riddled the underground of Chicago. Was the Antikythera Device a medium? How about the Big Character Poster Democracy Wall in Peking in the early 80s? Never heard of any of these? Well, that's the problem. Both Kadrey and I happen to be vague aficionados of this field of study, and yet we both suspect that there must be hundreds of dead media, known to few if any. It would take the combined and formidable scholarly talents of, say, Carolyn \"When Old Technologies Were New\" Marvin and Ricky \"Learned Pigs and Fireproof Women\" Jay to do this ambitious project genuine justice. Though we haven't asked, we kinda"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov  8, 1998 (16:53)", "body": "Dead Media Working Notes 00.5 Subject: Dead Personal Computers Source: Historical Computer Society's \"Historically Brewed\" magazine Historically Brewed: Our First Year, $14.95 editor David Greelish Available from: HCS Press, 1994 2962 Park Street #1 Jacksonville Florida 32205 The staggering speed of technological obsolescence in personal computing makes this perhaps the single most challenging area in dead media studies. The following list, garnered from several issues of \"Historically Brewed,\" a computer collectors' fanzine, does not even begin to count the casualties. There is no pretense of accuracy or exhaustiveness here, although this is the best list I've seen to date. These machines were created for the American, British, and Japanese markets, with no mention at all of, for instance, Soviet Bloc computers. Nor are there any listings of workstations, mainframes, dedicated game computers or arcade console machines. The lacunae here are very obvious and I hope that knowledgeable Dead Media Illuminati will help to close those gaps. I was deeply disquieted to learn that the Historical Computer Society has a sister group known as IACC which specializes in collecting defunct calculators. A further wrinkle suggests itself when one surmises that the true \"dead medium\" in dead computation is not dead platforms (such as those listed here) but dead operating systems (for which I have no list at all). An editorial note: The Dead Media Mailing List is now emanating from fringeware.com, who were kind enough to offer us their services gratis. The Dead Media Mailing List is not an interactive list or discussion group. That may come at some later time -- I welcome advice on the subject of a possible \"alt.dead.media.\" Currently this mailing list is solely a means of distribution of edited articles and research minutiae. Only the most sober, lugubrious, and scholarly commentary will pass the eagle eye of the DMML editor, ie. bruces@well.com. Hopefully this will keep traffic down to the point where we can all actually get some work done. Dead Personal Computers (the first draft): Altair 8800 Amiga 500 Amiga 1000 Amstrad Apple I, II, IIc, IIe, II+, IIgs, III Apple Lisa Apple Lisa MacXL Apricot Atari 400 Atari 800 Atari 520ST Atari 1200XL Basis 190 BBC Micro Bondwell 2 Cambridge Z-88 Canon Cat Columbia Portable Commodore 128 Commodore C64 Commodore Vic-20 Commodore Plus 4 Commodore Pet CompuPro \"Big 16\" Cromemco Z-2D Cromemco System 3 DOT Portable Eagle II Epson QX-10 Epson HX-20 Epson PX-8 Geneva Exidy Sorcerer Franklin Ace 500 Franklin Ace 1200 Gavilan Grid Compass Heath/Zenith Hyperion IBM PC 640K IBM XT IBM Portable IBM PCjr IMSAI 8080 Intertek Superbrain II Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 Kaypro 2x Linus WriteTop Mac 128, 512, 512KE Mattel Aquarius Micro-Professor MPF-II Morrow MicroDecision 3 Morrow Portable NEC PC-8081 NEC Starlet 8401-LS NorthStar Advantage NorthStar Horizon Ohio Scientific Oric Osborne 1 Osborne Executive Panasonic Sanyo 1255 Sanyo PC 1250 Sinclair ZX-80 Sinclair ZX-81 Sol Model 20 Sony SMC-70 Spectravideo SV-328 SuperBrain II QD Tandy 1000 Tandy 1000SL Tandy Coco 1 Tandy Coco 2 Tandy Coco 3 Tano Dragon TRS-80 TI 99/4 Timex/Sinclair 1000 Timex/Sinclair color computer Vector 4 Victor 9000 Workslate Xerox 820 II Xerox Alto Xerox Dorado Xerox 1108 Yamaha CX5M Possible sources of further insight: A Collector's Guide to Personal Computers and Pocket Calculators by Dr Thomas F Haddock $14.95 from: Books Americana, Inc P O Box 2326 Florence, Alabama 35360 History of the Personal Computer by Stan Veit $16.95 from: Historical Computer Society 2962 Park Street #1 Jacksonville, Florida 32205 Encyclopedia of Computer History by Mark Greenia Lexikon Publishing (??)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov  8, 1998 (17:03)", "body": "Subject: Public Address on Dead Media Project by Bruce Sterling bruces@well.com Literary Freeware: Not for Commercial Use \"The Life and Death of Media\" Speech at Sixth International Symposium on Electronic Art ISEA '95 Montreal Sept 19 1995 Hello, my name's Bruce Sterling, I'm a science fiction writer from Austin, Texas. It's very pleasant to be here in Montreal at an event like ISEA. It's professionally pleasant. As a science fiction writer, I have a deep and abiding interest in electronic arts. In multimedia. In computer networks. In CD-ROM. In virtual reality. In the Internet. In the Information Superhighway. In cyberspace. Basically, the less likely it sounds, the better I like it. These are topics that I dare not ignore. It would mean ignoring the nervous system of the information society. The laboratory of information science. The battlefield of information warfare. The marketplace of the information economy. As well as one of the strangest areas of the art world. When Jules Verne invented science fiction, Jules Verne was a stockbroker. Almost by accident, Jules Verne discovered that nineteenth century France had a large market for techno-thrillers. Jules Verne discovered and fed the tremendous 19th-century cultural appetite for romantic, futuristic technologies like the hot-air- balloon, the electric submarine, the airborne battleship, the moon cannon. Today, at the close of the twentieth century, I feel a great sense of solidarity with my spiritual ancestor Jules Verne when it comes to topics such as virtual reality, and telepresence, and direct links between brain and computer. Even as I stand here before you, I can scarcely restrain my natural urge to inflate some of these big shiny high- tech balloons with the hot air of the imagination. But ladies and gentlemen, I have seen this done for so long now, and for *so many times,* and to so many different technologies, that I can no longer do it myself with any sense of existential authenticity. I must confess to you quite openly and frankly that I am having a crisis of conscience. In the year 1995, do information technologies really *need* any more hot-breathing promotion from science fiction writers? I would suggest otherwise. Take AT&T's famous \"You Will\" campaign. AT&T's public relations campaign has reached millions of people -- even though AT&T have just announced plans to fire ten thousand of their own computer people. Have you ever wondered if AT&T has any real idea what they're doing? Do you think that AT&T has any real idea what they'll do to us, once they arrive in that future that they are selling to us? Did you ever wonder what AT&T really wants? You Will! But at least AT&T makes nice looking science fiction commercials with great set design. Let's consider Canada Bell. Canada Bell is making an incredibly arrogant attempt to trademark the term \"The Net\" -- a term which has been common parlance worldwide since at least 1988. Canada Bell should be sued for that kind of hubris, and in fact they *are* being sued, or at least opposed in court. Symptoms like this make it clear that the good old techno-booster role of science fiction writers has been taken over by a new professional class of public relations hucksters and intellectual property attorneys. Science fiction writers are no longer needed to serve as handmaidens for these blundering colossi. Nowadays, science fiction writers should fulfill another role. Science fiction writers should be examining aspects of media that cannot be promoted and sold. Aspects of media that corporate public relations people are *afraid to look at* and deeply afraid to tell us about. We should be attempting to achieve a coherent understanding of media. I'm not saying, mind you, that we're actually going to do this fine and noble thing. I'm merely saying that's what's needed. Given that tremendous challenge, science fiction writing is a rather meager response at best. At our best, maybe we science fiction writers can act as harbingers or catalysts, but what is really needed at this historical juncture is a serious general global assessment of our technosocial condition. Before we install the latest hot-off-the-disk-drive version of Windows For Civilization 2.0, we ought to look around ourselves very seriously. Probably, before leaping in postmodern ecstasy into the black hole of virtuality, we ought to make and store some back-ups of the system first. Our society would do this if we had a momentary attack of common sense. But never mind, that's just a passing suggestion. Rather than dwelling on that, let me tell you how I reached this artistic crisis of mine. Two months ago, I finished a new science fiction novel. It's a novel about virtual reality artists in Europe in the late twenty-first century. I think people in today's digital art community will recognize this novel as my little valentine for them. This is a novel set a hundred years from today, in which I pretend that digital arts people like the people"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (06:01)", "body": "any new info on this yet, Terry?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (16:37)", "body": "Terry, I think this topic would maybe fare better in a more technological or scientific conference. It's more retro-geekism that would be attracted to this, rather than publishing folks or journos, I think. Could you post it up there, too?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (21:58)", "body": "We could link it to techbusiness, or web, or internet. Hmmm, what conference am I in now?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (22:35)", "body": "making ya dizzy ain't it!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Mar 13, 1999 (15:08)", "body": "Uh, yeah, that's what made me think of a more tech-, culture- or science-oriented conference. It's more any of these three than media as in publishing and the like."}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 13, 1999 (16:29)", "body": "or maybe collecting?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "Wer, you are of course right (as usual, I must admit), e.g. is my interest in old audio technology (among others) nicely complemented by Bruce Sterling's Dead Media project. But if you collect things like Super 8-movies or 78s or reel-to-reel magnet tapes, and play them, how dead are they? This discussion has been already tackled by better men than me, so let's give it some deserved rest. The most important aspects of this projects are in my mind the credit past ingeniosity gets (amazing results with limited means, etc.), a basic understanding of how most technologies don't just suddenly pop up as in \"Here I am! I'm cool! I'm new! Use me!\", rather they often start their live cycles on the wreckage of former concepts, to either develop or subsitute existing concepts. Today, we computer-interested people are frustrated by severe limitations in compatibilities, in part caused by extensive use of proprietary standards. But this is no news at all - just examine the competition between the wax cylinders Edison marketed and the grammophone discs by Berliner. In 1890 (and up into the 1920ies), if you had an Edison (or perhaps license) Phonograph, you could not play any black, flat, round disc with grooves. You're choice of music was limited to the stuff Edison marketed (an supposedly he didn't have that hot a taste in music... especially after he was deaf...). And if you had a grammophone, you couldn't play every flat, round black thing, either. While most spun outside-in, some spun inside-out (e.g. products from Path\ufffd, France), and while all these had grooves with horizontal markings, there were also some with vertikal marks in the grooves. AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT STANDARDS REQUIRED DIFFERENT HARDWARE! The same thing happened in late 40ies, when 45 and 33 rpm speeds were introduced by competing companies, whoses respective record players would only play their medium (plus maybe - after switching the needle - the old \"standard\" 78 rpm). If you had a 45 player - sorry, no LPs for you. If you had an LP player, you couldn't buy the much cheaper 7'' Singles on 45 rpm. Terry and I have this problem right now, again. We agreed on a medium, a VHS tape. Nice. Just I deliver PAL format, and he needs NTSC, so we need a workaround (who lives in Tennessee). This all virtually reeks of TECH or SCIENCE, SOCIETY, CULTURE, because of the historical/ cultural/ sociological aspects involved (e.g. 78s were in the US longer made by musicians with strong following in the southern states, the same it was 40 before that with wax cylinders, which could still be sold in the south after the northern market had vanished). Therefore I hereby once more request: put this thing up in respective conferences, too. Please."}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (05:39)", "body": "would fit in a history conference, too..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (16:27)", "body": "Just what i say, just what I say (and I know I repeat myself on this one)! ;=} But then, we do not have a dedicated historical Conference yet, do we? There are some topics, like medieval, but no history conference (which would, in turn, intersect with society and culture at least)."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (17:14)", "body": "A history conf would be cool, any history buffs here?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (17:34)", "body": "Depends on what's history for ya, mate! If learning from past mistakes counts, don't count on me. If knowing about mistakes qualifies, you might know somebody."}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr  9, 1999 (05:12)", "body": "'tis linked up in cultures now, Alexander... and earlier you asked, \"But if you collect things like Super 8-movies or 78s or reel-to-reel magnet tapes, and play them, how dead are they?\" they are as dead as their usage and their production, IMHO (I know, you said let it rest but...)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr  9, 1999 (11:14)", "body": "Well, Werby, ask Terry to switch yer batteries, and dig this: SUPER8 AIN'T DEAD! It's just expensive... ;=} Honestly, I just filmed my trip to Hamburg and Flensburg in Super8, as the films are still available (by Kodak, 15 meters/approx. 3 minutes). And! We enjoy inviting folks over to watch our or their old family home movies or the occasional real movie, like Invanhoe cut together to fit on an 18 minute-reel. Also, we enjoy Kung Fu-Movies a lot, I own several reels of vintage Bruce Lee-stuff. Thanks for linking this to the Cultures conference!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr  9, 1999 (11:22)", "body": "Dear Dead Media-appreciator, you might also enjoy visiting this topic here: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/respond/collecting/24 . It's the *Films and Movies (Super8, 16mm, 32mm, video)* topic in the Collecting conference."}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (05:13)", "body": "yes, yes it is"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (05:31)", "body": "Wonder whatever happened the the Stereo Realist Terry has? Probably has not had time to fool with it lately. I am curious, though..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (05:33)", "body": "as for the history conference, of which I believe Alexander is the only current active host, he does not go in there. I seem to rattle around in there posting like a dried pea in a referee's whistle. Oh well, I do that a lot of places..."}, {"response": 21, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "Haven't done much with it, I'm doing more with digital photography and still digital and video these days. I'll be posting some stuff soon."}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (16:52)", "body": "Oooh! I can't wait *grin* media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 32, "subject": "amazon.com - online bookseller", "response_count": 14, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (12:28)", "body": "Read these press releases in order regarding the Ingram acquisition by Barnes and Noble. 1. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/981106/wa_amazon__1.html 2. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/981106/barnesandn_1.html 3. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/981106/wa_amazon__2.html And then comment."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (18:42)", "body": "especially since we are an Amazon.com affiliate now..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (18:45)", "body": "oooh! affiliate. what kinda benes do we get for such status?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (18:49)", "body": "commission on sales, etcetera... so, if you buy stuff from them over the web, click thru from the banners in books and food please!!!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (19:00)", "body": "groovy... will do!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (22:01)", "body": "i didnt know that! i buy stuff from them all the time, and i will be sure to go thru our banners!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (05:31)", "body": "yes, please..."}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (17:42)", "body": "or the url is http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/thespring"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (00:48)", "body": "William will you put something on the Spring's main page about buying books from Amazon?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (03:33)", "body": "i'll put a spring amazon banner on every website i can too!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (14:31)", "body": "as soon as I can, and cool!!!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (04:58)", "body": "Not only have I purchased a bunch from him lately, he is also looking at me from my TIME magazine Man of the Year cover. Many-page spread inside, as well."}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:23)", "body": "Who? Barnes or Noble or Ray?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (02:16)", "body": "Neither one...from Jeff Bezos, the CEO of Amazon.com media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 33, "subject": "Gregory Kallenberg - XL columnist", "response_count": 44, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "A good place to catch up on Gregory's stuff (so you can comment on it here!) is: http://austin360.com/tech/browser/archives.htm Here are some of the columns: 07browser.htm\">Orwell's Big Brother comes home to find a digital roost 01/07/99 Weirdest of the Web: My favorite freaky sites 12/31/98 Coolest companies send out their URL-tide greetings 12/24/98 Dear Santa: I want to be king of my own domain 12/17/98 Proud to be the spokesnerd for the Geek Generation 12/10/98 Holiday shopping a cinch on the Net 12/3/98 Talk about your childhood wishes: a Digital Anvil tour! 11/26/98 No pocket protectors here, but tech age has redefined 'geek' 11/19/98 Tech-set can surf for spirits at Reuben's Emporium 11/12/98 A father, a son and the struggle to be the answer guy 11/05/98 Oh, the humanity: iMac's simplicity makes it more like us 10/22/98 GimpBox is filled with dark humor of Whitney Ayres 10/08/98 Human Code adapts Hollywood strategy to CD-ROM biz 10/08/98 Internet mob thinks hanging's too good for the president 9/24/98 Hello, my name is (your name here), and I'm a net addict 9/10/98 The rise of the 'estronet' 9/3/98 Torch passes to a digital gereration 8/20/98 Ransom seeking online center 8/13/98 Let (cyber) freedom ring 8/9/98 Linux takes aim at crashing giant windows 7/30/98 Come on and take a freedrive 7/23/98 Entering a new age of advertising 7/16/98 Internet tall tales start young 7/9/98 Online biz: It's your baby, baby 7/2/98 A designing woman of the web 6/25/98 I'm in a death match 6/11/98 Neverending quest for speed 6/4/98 The future of trading cards 5/28/98 The sound of satisfied gamers 5/21/98 The time is ripe for Olivedesign's organic approach 5/14/98 Your home could be a sweatshop 5/7/98 Go outside now! 4/30/98 Computer! Camera! Action! 4/23/98 Web sites made easy: part one 4/16/98 Going wireless on the 'net 4/9/98 E'Zines evolving not dying 4/2/98 Kind strangers and computers 3/26/98 Interactive festival cut its teeth 3/19/98 Interact on the cheap at SXSW 3/5/98 Survival of the fittest providers 2/26/98 Caught in the cheating 'net 2/19/98 Cyberlove gone bad 2/12/98 The power of the meme 2/5/98 CASA has a dream 1/29/98 Now entering the lightning modem age 1/22/98 'Dwango Bob' blazes gaming cybertrail 1/15/98 SXSW Interactive Festival revamps goals for '98 1/8/98"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 21, 1999 (13:54)", "body": "Today's Kallenberg \"Upfront: Browser\" mentions www.Spring.net - \"It seems a lot of fans of this tres cool Austin site missed my call for the 2nd annual Golden Pebble Awards (best local sites). They are up in arms they weren't included. Well, guys, here's spring.net for all to click upon and bookmark. I hope you're happy.\" Does that picture of Kallenberg remind you of Kramer just a little bit? Hey, we're happy!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (00:00)", "body": "that's good. makes me double glad i sent that letter."}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (06:02)", "body": "me, too...all of us who e-mailed him should send him a thank you, as well..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (06:03)", "body": "(and another invitation to be a regular participant, as well...)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (12:23)", "body": "Great idea, please email Gregory and thank him. mailto://gkallenberg@statesman.com"}, {"response": 7, "author": "osceola", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (16:35)", "body": "Has it occured to anyone here that the line \"I hope you're happy\" was a polite way of saying \"Quit bugging me\"? If he wanted to be a regular here, he would have been by now, don't you think?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (05:48)", "body": "maybe..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (16:55)", "body": "after re-reading that line, i have to agree. it did seem like kind of a nasty letter."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (17:14)", "body": "I have exchanged a couple of real nice emails from him since then. He seems very friendly. I turned him on to Fritz Blau, the Motorblade postering guy who cruise around town to the various bulletin boards on his rollerblades. Good feature article material. This is the third time the Spring has made XL. Media Mention Score: XL 3 Chron 0 KXAN 3 Too bad we're so civilized, or we could get some *negative* publicity! The best kind! (heh)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (17:18)", "body": "You want some negative publicity? Really? hmmm..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (20:01)", "body": "Just kidding!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (20:44)", "body": "aw, shucks..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "osceola", "date": "Mon, Jan 25, 1999 (19:52)", "body": "Maybe we should start a conference about shooting the president. That always gets publicity. (If the Secret Service monitors this site -- hey, just kidding! ;-)"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 25, 1999 (20:44)", "body": "Not *that* controversial."}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jan 26, 1999 (04:10)", "body": "You is definately my kinda guy, George!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (15:25)", "body": "Gregory has the next Matt Drudge emerging from the Austin scene. I read this today in the Browser column: But how does he get to be a magnate? Barb should set up a Web page. While there are a lot of sites capturing the Austin scene, his easygoing style and Austin roots make his voice perfect. His voice, through his Web page, could be the one people log on to in order to see the goings-on of Austin, a veritable Harry Knowles for the city. From there, he could take his site and make it a portal site like Excite. The users could see what the Catfish sees every morning when they turn on their computers (\"You've got catfish!\"). From there, maybe an E-commerce site like Unmall.com. Sell Catfish T-shirts and signed photos. Then an IPO, then Roger Barb and his \"Blues Across Texas\" will be synonymous with Yahoo! and Amazon. He'll be huge. Roger Barb's only connection to the net now is an email account where he sends an immensely popular column to Germany or somewhere. I say, let's give this guy a web page and help him out. I don't want to slow down the next Internet superstar. Hey, and there's all those IPO possibiblities."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (15:35)", "body": "See my note on this in the porch conference. Under folks we'd like to invite here and give webpages."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:10)", "body": "April 22, 1999 was Gregory's last column. As the Editor's note says: Editor's note: Today marks Browser's final appearance in XLent. Writer Gregory Kallenberg is taking his high-tech focused stories on the road, so look for them all over the paper and especially in the Life & Arts Section. Some quotes from his last column: What would happen if technology ended today? Your ATM card didn't work and neither did your computer. You woke up and the digital watch you got for Christmas was blank, and the VCR wouldn't play any of your Disney tapes. I'm not talking about a glitch like Y2K -- wherein technology hiccups and then all is better. I'm talking about a total shutdown. Someone, somewhere throws a big switch, and the whirring engine of technology moans to a stop. \"I've been thinking about if there was no electricity,\" said Bob Atchison, a local Web design guru and owner of PallasArt Web Design. \"You know, databases would basically disappear. If they disappeared, there would be nothing left to represent our culture. It's not like we put anything on paper anymore. If technology disappeared, our (modern) culture could disappear in a few seconds.\" Certainly, things would be less bright. The glow of monitors and the buzz of fluorescent lights would be gone. Forget about television as a beacon to eat by. There would only be a dimmer, natural light to help us on our way during waking hours and the tribal Halloween orange of fire to illuminate our homes at night. \"Wow! If technology went away, I'd have to go back to reading books and the newspaper,\" said Hugh Forrest, event director of South by Southwest Interactive. \"At least for me, the world would be a better place. I've become a total product of the Web -- a click-through-short-attention-span-everything's-connected-so-I-look-at-nothing-for-very-long kind of guy.\" What would we do if our loss of technology took away our entertainment? Televisions would become furniture, and CD-ROM games could become weapons in hunting. Other things would change, too. \"Collecting data\" would mean sniffing the wind or listening to the ground. \"Processing\" would be what you do to deer and rabbits to make them dinner. \"Monitor\" would return to being a verb rather than a noun. \"What would it be like without technology?\" mused Jen Scoville, editor of RX.com, an online health magazine and pharmacy site. \"It would probably be terrifying. But then, everyone would take a breather and the information glut would end. For one thing, it would definitely free our brains up for some old-fashioned thinking.\" \"There would be definite chaos and havoc,\" said Doreen Lorenzo, president of digital media at Frogdesign. \"My children are so tech-driven, you'd have to go through a generation before everyone would calm down. We would be less informed, but is that a good thing?\" Would people aimlessly roam the streets, distraught from their loss of e-mail? At least the annoying person in the restaurant booth behind you wouldn't be able to whip out his cell phone and tell his friend what he's just ordered. Curly faxes would go the way of the dinosaur. Would violence ensue if we couldn't check our voicemail pagers? Or would there be peace and calm? Would we all again sit down at the table together? We'd have to actually meet face-to-face and spend precious minutes chit-chatting before getting to the point. Telling stories (which are too long and complicated to put into e-mail) would come back into fashion. Longer, more leisurely lunches would cease to be interrupted by ringing phones and buzzing pagers. You know, it doesn't sound like such a bad place to me. Maybe we should look for the switch."}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:22)", "body": "maybe so..."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:46)", "body": "src=\"www.austin360.com/entertainment/xl/columns/browser/browserhead.jpg\">"}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (20:53)", "body": "IMG..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (14:49)", "body": "He's missing in action. Gregory Kallenberg. I can't let this go unnoticed. He was the Spring's best supporter in the Austin Journalistic community along with Larry Brill of KXAN TV. What a loss to the community! No more Browser column in XL. Gregory, I hope you're having fun."}, {"response": 24, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (23:25)", "body": "yep, it's a sad and terrible thing..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "I tried to email him today, in hopes he has forwarding set up. Last time I saw him was at the Whole Foods reception for Doug Block at SXSW."}, {"response": 26, "author": "JASPER", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (00:50)", "body": "I also heard Kallenberg was working on a new high-tech section of the Austin Statesman. Good for him. But, I still miss the Browser Column in XL. Here's the mindset of corporate journalism: Hmmm. We have a column about the Internet and no other Austin newspaper is covering the Internet. Gregory Kallenberg seems to be getting more and more popular with the readers. Guess we better pull the Browser Column. We don't want anyone becoming bigger than the paper. Besides, the Internet is eventually going to put us out of business."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (15:10)", "body": "That's a a mindset to behold, your snakeskin in action. I like Gregory, I met him on a couple of occasions and he was very friendly to us and wanted to see this community make it. I hope he is able to have some impact in his new gig."}, {"response": 28, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (13:58)", "body": "Trudy's Texas Star off the Drag is one of my favorite \"comfort\" places in Austin, the migas are great, the coffee is wonderful and I sometimes run in to a friend or old acquaintance. Sometimes recognition is delayed. I noticed a young couple come in and sit next to us at a table, a curley black haired guy and his extraordinarily good looking wife with long blonde hair and their baby. After a bit, I realized it was Gregory. It was just a slightly different context than the usual cocktail-dotcom party where I meet up with him. I think the last time I saw him was the the premiere of Dough Block's movie about the Internet, Home Page. So we talked and it turns out he's left the old Snakeskin' for the halls of dotcom academe, http://www.notharvard.com . Being such a luminous, high profile journalist, Gregory had his pick from dozens of local Internet startups, and it says a lot for notharvard that he chose this one to be a content producer. Mystery solved about the dissappearance of this great Austin cyberjournalist."}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (16:06)", "body": "Any idea what has happened with Mike Jasper? Excellent news about Gregory Kallenberg."}, {"response": 30, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (17:45)", "body": "No idea about Mike, maybe I'll bump in to him sometime! I would love to see Mie around here again."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (19:32)", "body": "Did you note that Mike (aa9il) has created a new Topic in Geo which promises to be fascinating but is gonna take some studying on my part. Seems I have to put some interesting questions on before he posts, which means I have to sound interested in the projects his is interested in without seeming to pry into his personal life - not always an easy thing to do...! Please check it - topic 35. He is erecting a radio telescope in his back yard. That is MY kinda guy!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (01:45)", "body": "Awesome, a radio telescope in his back yard! That's the real SETI at home."}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (02:11)", "body": "Indeed - so check out Geo 35 - it's Mike's and he does not post unless there are questions for him to answer or comment on."}, {"response": 34, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (18:37)", "body": "Will do."}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (19:15)", "body": "Thanks - I see that you did. Now, where is our esteemed Radio Free Cosmo?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (13:31)", "body": "No clue, somewhere in Illinois. Maybe he went to Dayton for the big hamfest."}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (16:09)", "body": "Illinois, I knew... Perhaps he got involved in his back yard projects or is DXpeditioning?!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (02:20)", "body": "Perhaps. It's time to do lunch with Greogory."}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (01:31)", "body": "Bon Apetite!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 21, 2000 (02:02)", "body": "Thanks and speaking of bon appetit, be sure to cruise over to the restaurant conference and check out this years \"Best of Austin\" eateries and restaurants, as yours truly takes shots at the Austin Chronicle Reader's and Critics Poll."}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 21, 2000 (04:23)", "body": "Terry, you sly dog, you are hilarious over there in Restaruant conference. I really like this new and spunky Terry. I though you were ministerial material till I read your posts today. It was worth the effort involved in answering your comments. Please come out to play more! You are most enchanting!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 21, 2000 (04:26)", "body": "How could I have misspelled Bon app\ufffdtit so incorrectly! Auwe!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, May 21, 2000 (13:08)", "body": "You mean you're ready for more digs at Austin's restaurant scene and the Chronicle?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (20:57)", "body": "Yup! Looks like we have been at it rather royally. You are very funny in that conference. I think we should keep you there! media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 34, "subject": "Superbowl and sports ads", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (16:49)", "body": "From Sports Business Daily: The following lists in-game national advertisers during Sunday's Super Bowl broadcast on Fox (THE DAILY): 1ST QTR ADVERTISERS #/LENGTH OF SPOT(S) AGENCY Anheuser-Busch 2 30-,1 45-second ^ Apple Computers 1 60-second TBWA Chiat/Day Pepsi-Cola 2 30-second BBDO Worldwide Universal Studios 1 30-second in-house Victoria's Secret 1 30-second N/A Volvo Truck 1 30-second Carmichael Lynch 2ND QTR ADVERTISERS #/LENGTH OF SPOT(S) AGENCY AT&T 1 60-second Foote, Cone & Beld. Anheuser-Busch 1 60-, 1 30-second ^ American Honda 1 30-second Rubin Postaer Assoc. First Union 1 60-second Publicis & Hal Riney Frito-Lay 2 30-second BBDO Worldwide GM (Cadillac) 1 30-second Berlin, Cameron/Pts M&M/Mars 2 15-second BBDO Worldwide Mail Boxes Etc. 1 30-second Kenneth C. Smith MasterCard 1 30-second McCann-Erickson Monster.com 1 30-second Mullen NFL 1 60-second in-house (NFLP) Philips Elec. 1 30-second Havas Advertising^ Progressive Insur. 1 60-second Arnell Group 7-UP 1 30-second Young & Rubicam Visa USA 2 30-second BBDO Worldwide 3RD QTR ADVERTISERS #/LENGTH OF SPOT(S) AGENCY Anheuser-Busch 2 30-second ^ AmEx 1 60-second Ogilvy & Mather FedEx 1 30-second BBDO Worldwide The Hartford 1 30-second Arnold Comm. Hotjobs.com 1 30-second McCann-Erickson Just For Feet 1 30-second Saatchi & Saatchi Land Rover 1 30-second Grace & Rothschild MGM N/A N/A Mitsubishi N/A N/A Titan Sports (WWF) 1 30-second in-house Universal Studios 1-60 second in-house 4TH QTR ADVERTISERS #/LENGTH OF SPOT(S) AGENCY Anheuser-Busch 2 30-second ^ Blockbuster 1 30-second Doner First Union 1 60-second Publicis & Hal Riney GM (Oldsmobile) 1 60-second Leo Burnett Monster.Com 1 30-second Mullen Yellow Pages 1 30-second Martin Agency NOTES: New Line Cinema and Warner Brothers have not disclosed in which quarters their ads will air. The first Universal Studios spot will tout \"The Mummy\" and their second will tout both \"Life\" and \"Ed TV.\" ^ = A-B's spots are produced by multiple agencies. Havas is parent of Messner Vetere Berger McNamee Schmetterer/Euro RSCG. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 35, "subject": "SUPERSTAR", "response_count": 71, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar  4, 1999 (19:14)", "body": "Please blame the following sales pitch and disclaimer on WER, The Artist Also Known As Kitchen (TAAKAK). I just mentioned that I'm connected with a music magazine, mentioned the name of it in http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/music/1 , and next thing I knew, TAAKAK created this topic with a link to a not-yet existing website ( http://www.superstar-online.com/) . So, let me grab this chance while supplies last... **************************************************** S U P E R S T A R is a music magazine published in Germany since January 1996. It was conceived by music enthusiasts with rather diverse tastes. SUPERSTAR is published quarterly and sold nationwide at trainstations' and airports' newsagents; also at most newsagents in Berlin (other regions to follow soon). We mainly cover music scenes missed by big magazines, emerging bands and musicians who play their excellent if neglected stuff in tiny clubs. Those are the real heroes, not guys on heavy rotation on tv music channels. People who really care about their art, who take lots of hard times and forsake many nice, cozy things to be able to tour or scra enough dough together for another single. SUPERSTAR is best when artists liberate page space, and write about what's on their mind, about other bands they like (or don't), about records they love since ages and why, about anything. Also always nice features that give you a completely different outlook on some topic (at least it always workes with me, make me go Whoa! I didn't know that!, etc.). SUPERSTAR also does portraits of tiny and obscure (but fabulous) labels. All other stuff that somehow is interesting might also get coverage. One of our nicest issues was the San Francisco-one; some people even used it as travel guide to nice places, clubs and the best record stores in SF. MUSICAL STYLES that are important to our contributors: Acid Jazz, Ambient, Avantgarde, Beat, Blues, Country, Easy Listening, Electronic Music, Funk, Garage-something, Glam Rock, Jazz, Krautrock, Noise, Pop, Post-Rock, Progressive, Punk, R 'n' B (old school), Rock 'n' Roll, Rockin' Blues, Ska, Songwriter, Soul, Surf, Tango, Trance, Trash, Underground-whatever, Weltmusik. SUPERSTAR contains lots of reviews of excellent records from the finest labels. It doesn't matter if the release is an obscure vinyl-single limited to 500 pcs., or a big label-thing with accompanying marketing blitz - if it's good, it's in there (if it's bad, sometimes too). HOW do I fit in there? The previous publishers started other projects and handed this over to people, who all worked for the mag for quite a while. That turn of events made me publisher/editor, brought lots of work and (hopefully) a bright future for our magazine. PLEASE direct all inquiries about SUPERSTAR to me, I'll be more than happy to answer all questions (especially about how to get SUPERSTAR, etc.!). Yes, we send mags overseas, and yes, we sell to record stores and mail order businesses, too. Contact me if you are interested. WEBSITE: Unfortunately, we can't do everything at the same time, so - while getting #12 together, getting organization restructured and saving the world, etc. - we neglected our website. Yes, we've got the domain; no, we didn't do a thing on that site. Yet. ****************************************************"}, {"response": 2, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar  4, 1999 (19:18)", "body": "Uh, did I say \"Thanks!\" to Wer? No, I didn't. I forgot, so here goes: \"Thanks for opening this topic, Wer, I hope you'll like it (and subscribe to SUPERSTAR)!\" ;=}"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar  4, 1999 (20:33)", "body": "you're welcome... (and if you're really thankful, send more people our way and make this one damned busy conference!!!)"}, {"response": 4, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (03:01)", "body": "What an exciting project to be in on."}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (18:42)", "body": "Autumn, you are perfectly right - and I didn't tell you half of it (yet)! We have a weekly radio show called \"superstar rotation\" in Frankfurt on Radio X (FM 97,1) (check them out on http://www.radiox.de ). superstar rotation airs live every Sunday 19:00 - 21:00 h (7-9 p.m.). Hosts are people from the superstar galaxy and guests. Often, these guests are e.g. members of bands who play somewhere in Frankfurt later that evening (so we get a sneak preview... and so do our listeners!). On March 28th we will have a very special show hosted by yours truly and other company from superstar High Command. We will play the music that has to do with the articles in #12 (out March 18th) - music from bands we wrote about, styles mentioned, related stuff, music we reviewed. In short, make you hear what you read about: Hank's favorite of the issue, a song by a guy who used to work in the town I grew up in and during that time lived in where superstar is published now, Granfaloon Bus, tango from Finland, rockin' blues, Bobby Conn (!!), music from Berlin labels Flittchen Records and Monika Enterprise, and lots more."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (19:37)", "body": "Maybe we can get some of this on Capzeyez, see the topic in the austin or music conferences. Can we get a video to show them?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (22:56)", "body": "Terry, mail me on how to do this, and I'll see if we can do that. Sound only be ok? Well, let me know, I'm very curious... This is from #12 (out March 18th for those who didn't know yet!). Hank McCoy is our contributing songwriter southern singer with a cooking knack, and I love his column. This one is for all folks who are down with the flu or the like (you'll know if you're meant...). Oh, sorry, it's somewhat german (Hank is from somewhere USA - was that Ohio?); please address translation requests to Stacey Vura. This is what he wrote: Notes from the Kitchen Hank McCoy Liebe Esserin und Lieber Esser! Ich bin krank, sehr, sehr krank. Mein Knopf ist mit Schleim gef\ufffdllt, ich huste bis ich fast keine Lungen mehr haben und bin so ja, einfach fertig da\ufffd ich die ganzen Tag schlafen k\ufffdnnte. Was kann ich dann machen? Ich mu\ufffd sowieso mit dem Kleiner hin und her, stehe fr\ufffdh auf, und ja, doch irgend etwas in der K\ufffdche kochen. Ich hab\ufffd kein Lust, hab\ufffd kein Energie, so was essen wir heute abend? Fischst\ufffdbchen, nat\ufffdrlich. Die sind immer von Kinder geliebt, gut mit die Handen wenn die Gabel fehlt aus (und so liebe ich die auch), schmecken wie, ja wie schmecken Fischst\ufffdbchen \ufffdberhaupt? Ein bi\ufffdchen knusprig, ein bi\ufffdchen fischig, aber mehr der erst als der zweite. Als Kind hab\ufffd ich solche Sachen immer mit Ketchup gegessen, und bis jetzt tu\ufffd ich das genauso. Ja, mu\ufffd ich sagen, als Kind war Fischst\ufffdbchen einer von meine Lieblings Essen. Ich finde die heute ein bi\ufffdchen langweilig, wie so viele die Sachen die Mann als Kind gro\ufffde Liebe hatte. Zum Beispiel, hab\ufffd ich immer als Kind TV Serien \ufffdFlipper\ufffd toll gefunden. Ich hab\ufffd diese Serien sp\ufffdter gesehen und es war total doof! Immer dasselbe Geschichte, immer dasselbe Folgen. Total Schei\ufffde! Als Kind hatte ich auch meine Lieblings Lied, und ich habe das neulich f\ufffdr Sam gefunden, aber in diesem Fall war alle meine Erinerungen richtig. Dieses Lied ist \ufffdI Wanna Be Like You\ufffd von Robert und Richard Sherman und war von Louis Prima und Schauspieler Phil Harris gesungen. Der Band war Louis Prima\ufffds Band \ufffdThe Witnesses\ufffd. Dieses ist ein phantastisches Lied mit viel Energie, ein starker Rhythmus, gesungen mit ein guter Spontanit\ufffdt; es ist ein bi\ufffdchen witzig, bi\ufffdchen lustig, aber auch sehr mysterios. Und heute finde ich das Lied sowieso gut. Ich k\ufffdnnte es jeden Tag h\ufffdren. (Aber Fischst\ufffdbchen kann ich nur einmal, h\ufffdchstens zweimal im Jahr essen.) Louis Prima war in die 50\ufffds und 60\ufffds ganz bekannt als Las Vegas Showman. Sein Musik war nicht Jazz, aber etwas musikalisch im Vergleichen mit \ufffdexotic cocktails,\ufffd aber \ufffdberhaupt kein \ufffdeasy listening\ufffd. Was heist das, weiss ich nicht, und was f\ufffdr Fisch benutzen die Fischst\ufffdbchen zu machen? Weiss ich auch nicht. St\ufffdbfisch? (Und ja, dieses Lied kommt aus der Disney Studios als Teil von der soundtrack von \ufffdThe Jungle Book,\ufffd und mu\ufffd ich sagen, da\ufffd ich bin kein gro\ufffden Fan von Disney. Ich finde die ein bi\ufffdchen wie die McDonalds von Culture. Sie machen \ufffdalles f\ufffdr alle\ufffd und so gibt\ufffds f\ufffdr mich ganz selten etwas, das besonders ist.) Dieses Lied hat diesen wundersch\ufffdnen Beat. Da gibt\ufffds einen Rhythmus, das viel st\ufffdrker gemacht ist mit viele Schlagzeuger. Ja, ein bi\ufffdchen wie Talking Heads als Steve Scales dabei war. Und auf diesen Rhythmus steht ein cool Jazz Combo, ein dixieland Combo, und am Ende die hilarious scat Duett von Prima and Harris. Ich glaube, in dieses Lied hab\ufffd ich den Schl\ufffdssel von meine Geschmack gefunden. Alles, da\ufffd ich wichtig in Musik brauche, ist hier in diesem Lied. Naja, was hat es mit Fischst\ufffdbchen zu tun? (Und diese Frage glaub\ufffd ich ist hier erstmal in dieser Zeitschrift gefragt, oder?) Ja, kann ich auch sagen, da\ufffd in Fischst\ufffdbchen finde ich alles, da\ufffd f\ufffdr Essen wichtig ist: Knusprigheit, Mann kannt die mit die H\ufffdnden essen, und einfach zu braten. Ja, nat\ufffdrlich soll Essen ein bi\ufffdchen voller Geschmack haben, oder nicht ein bi\ufffdchen aber viel mehr, und sonst? Okay, sind Fischst\ufffdbchen nicht die Beispiel, die am besten ist, aber meine Meinung ist klar. Der Tatsache ist, da\ufffd in der letzte Zeit hab\ufffd ich nicht viel gekocht wegen Krankheit, aber mu\ufffd ich sowieso etwas schreiben und ich bin schon sp\ufffdt. So, Fischst\ufffdbchen und \ufffdI Wanna Be Like You.\ufffd"}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (23:57)", "body": "He's sick... very, very sick. His head is full of... snot???? I'm still working on it! Actually thanks ALexander, I'm gonna keep trying to translate and perhaps the practice shall shiny up my German!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Mar  9, 1999 (00:06)", "body": "(I'm dizzy from all the strange links... I believe I arrived from collecting... or was it paraspring???) *smile*"}, {"response": 10, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Mar  9, 1999 (15:07)", "body": "Must have been collecting, never been to paraspring. Yes, Hank meant snot, but said slime instead. Notice that his syntax is often the english syntax. Hank's column is one of the features I love best about superstar, and recently he started going from his native english to german, but it's still very english flavored (at least that's obvious for native german speakers)."}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Mar  9, 1999 (17:22)", "body": "and helpful for the non-natives!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Mar  9, 1999 (17:56)", "body": "I'm happy somebody appreciates my job... Anyway, about the radio stuff mentioned above? We right now think about touring radiostations with that show (Hamburg, Berlin, N\ufffdrnberg, M\ufffdnchen). And we'll have a #12-release party in Frankfurt on March 26th! It'll be good to see some contributors again after the while it has been..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 10, 1999 (16:15)", "body": "Can you mail us a video tape or point us to some mpegs?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (07:44)", "body": "I see if somebody brings a video-thingus along. About the radio show: How would we do this?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (13:43)", "body": "Well, we live off of videtapes for our live webcast. If you can send us a videotape we'll play it on our website and get a copy to the capzeyez folks, who have the most popular music show in Austin (at least the one voted so by the Chronicle)."}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (14:01)", "body": "OK, Terry, I see what I can do for the party (but I wonder how attractive it is watching people at a past-party, drinking, smoking and talking to each other, if you can't even understand the lingo...). How about the superstar rotation radio show? Surely you don't want me to film a radio for two hours? How about audio tape or DAT (if the station's equipment works again...). If you use our stuff in any compromising or uncompromising way, I'd love to get copy in return, so we can join the fun. Whaddaya say - deal?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (16:00)", "body": "Deal, send a video of some kind! That would rock. Send to Paul Terry Walhus 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (21:37)", "body": "gotta make sure it is in American format..."}, {"response": 19, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (08:39)", "body": "Arrrgh, why can't you people for once do something like everybody else? OK, so I'll mail to Tennessee to have it copied over from PAL (which is a perfectly nice format) to NTSC (which is what you want). And Tennessee wil be so kind to send it to you. What about our radio show? Would cassettes be ok? Maybe I could get DAT, too, if things ain't still broken. Say?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (14:56)", "body": "It all has to be VHS, maybe you could send a VHS with just audio and some still pics?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (16:00)", "body": "I see what we can rig up. Anyway, today we get #12 from the printers! Boy-oh, am I excited! Ok, I know every piece in there, having edited it all over and checking stuff thousand times, but nevertheless - it's always a big thrill to hold a fresh copy of the new issue in one's hands!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (18:04)", "body": "can i get it at the airport?? I have a leg from Frankfurt to Berlin... textual plane candy!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (18:59)", "body": "Sorry, it's at the airport newsagents only as of March 18th (release date). I think you pass through earlier, don't you? Hey, do you guys have delay in Franfurt? Mail me what date/time you pass through, maybe we can rig something via your Airline or have somebody to a proper delivery... How is the Hank McCoy-translation coming along? ;=}"}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (19:32)", "body": "land in Frankfurt around 9 am on Sunday March 14... I think our delay is about an hour??? Perhaps we land at 8:30am??? Accckkkk!!! Where'd I put those tickets?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (22:00)", "body": "Hey, beam us in from a Cyber Cafe Stace!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (22:35)", "body": "woo woo!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Mar 13, 1999 (11:14)", "body": "Stacey, that time doesn't look to good for me, plus it's to late to snail-mail it to the airlines desk. We got 3 options: Somebody is all crazy and gets there (mail me specs for that scenario, but might not happen - 9 am, middle of the night!!!), our distribution branch mails it to you in Berlin, or you hafta wait till Thursday, 18th, by then it ought to be at any selfrespecting newsstand in Berlin."}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (01:14)", "body": "Are you and Stacey going to meet up, Alexander?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (09:51)", "body": "Well, I botched it, Terry. :=[ I had the chance to actually drag my sorry carcass over to the airport (bucket in hand, for those who've lately checked the record collecting topic...), and there were a zillion obstacles I couldn't overcome (including things to do for the mag, gotta move fast these days)."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (14:20)", "body": "Done!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "Thanks, Terry! It looks great in the Media conference, doesn't it?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "Yeppers, it looks awesome."}, {"response": 33, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (12:14)", "body": "*one big happy smile*"}, {"response": 34, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (19:09)", "body": "World, I want you to know that as of today, superstar #12 is on sale! Contents: Short essay by David Thompson on Necessary Silence (or rather, its lack) Hank McCoy's Notes from the Kitchen BIG feature on Granfaloon Bus from San Francisco (have already contributed to superstar #6 - when they and the band Fuck interviewed each other - and #8, when their target were the Mommyheads), and Souled American2 from Chicago and Susan James (!!!), also from SF, who's performance last monday as opener on the GB's tourstop in Frankfurt I've missed!! AGAIN something like this happens to me! But I got to meet Miles, though (see page 14). Regular column \"Ohne Dolby\" features Schwermut Forest from Munich, presenting a mixtape readers can win by presenting us with their own mixtape!! \"Prisoners of Earth\" is the title of the piece on tango from Finland, writen by Stefan Meier, the very person who compiled an excellent CD on this subject called \"Tule Tanssimaan - Finnischer Tango\" for munich-based label Trikont ( http://www.trikont.de for gernam website ). My personal recommendation for your mind: read this article, or get Stacey and Wolf to translate it (I can supply file...), for your ears and heart: hear this stuff! End of perfectly justified hype.- Blumfeld from Hamburg put out a record people either loved or hated (for being a banal, e.g.) - we got two opinions on them. Sleater-Kinney, female US rock trio. They got a new CD \"THe Hot Rock\", and we get 'em in the mag. Article on how people in the DDR/German Democratic Republik, who were into western underground or avantgarde music got their stuff... while national security was havening BOTH eyes on them! 2 Labelportraits: Flittchen Records and Monika Enterprise are Berlin labels, who have a lot in common - they are both fairly new, run by female musicians and put out Berlin-acts. But they do serve different musical tastes... (There is common ground, and they cooperate, too.) BIG article on Rockin' Blues! Thomas Meinecke from Munich band FSK in an interview. Sonny Vincent interviews Captain Sensible (The Damned, etc.), and the good Captain books Flight 666! Everlast was the guys name in the House of Pain, now he calls himself Whitey Ford and has them blues. AND! Everybody loves his 1998 release \"Rise Up!\" (Produced by Jim O'Rourke), praised his concerts, and all the good stuff - BUT WE GOT A ARTICLE FROM HIM! That's right - Bobby Conn from Chicago reveals details about your existence, the Armageddon and his part in all that!!! DON'T SAY I DIDN'T TELL YOU! Then we have loads of record reviews, rock, electronic, jazz, reissues, progressive, blues, punk, post-rock, country - you name it, it's in there. ************************************************************* superstar #12 costs DM 6,-- (~ USD 4,--), subscriptions start at DM 22,-- (~ USD 14,--) for four issues (automatic renewal) and a goody, and go up to DM 40,-- cash (~ USD 24,--) for next four issues (no automatic renewal), a goody plus three backissues. (Any orders kindly direct at Alexander_Schuth@yahoo.com - they will be forwarded to distribution staff immediately. Thank you.)"}, {"response": 35, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (10:41)", "body": "Full Tour dates for Finnish Tango band Lasse Santagangas Ensemble in concert topic! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/music/53.17 Heavily recommended events Germany and Switzerland!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "superstar will visit Hamburg in the next few days; there'll be a very special appearance by yours truly + company on radio FSK on Friday, 2nd of April, between 17-19:00 (5-7 pm Central European Daylight Saving Time)."}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (14:04)", "body": "Where's the tape?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (10:57)", "body": "Ahem, right. I knew this question would arise one day. Video didn't work; how about Audio cassettes? I now got two shows to offer, last friday's special appearance at FSK radio in Hamburg was great fun (Grrrrrreeeeetings to hosts Manuel and Ekki! FSK rulez da wavez in Hamburg!!!)."}, {"response": 39, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (11:35)", "body": "gettem in da mail, daddy-o!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Apr  7, 1999 (23:07)", "body": "Working on it..."}, {"response": 41, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (08:37)", "body": "... never got around to... At least I bought the blank tapes two weeks ago. So much is happenin' here - #13 is being readied. Most part is already off to our great layout-staff, rest will follow within few days. I'm editing like crazy, and hustling like hell - gotta get these last articles up, sell some more ads, organize some promotion, etc. We're about to revitalize the dormant superstar club rotation, our DJing-branch who ROCK THE HOUSE any way you'd like - soul, indie, rock, house. Also, we prepare an evening at the world's biggest music exposition, the PopKomm in Cologne. superstar will host an evening in the club UNDERGOUND on Thursday, August 19th. Line-up: Silverbullit, The Monochords, Mardi Gras bb., DM Bob & The Deficits, plus another act. Preview to #13: cover: Fela Kuti, Nigeria (1938-1997) - Hank McCoy writes about the best American record (or even music), and the best German food. - To Rococo Rot, interesting electronics-meet-bass-band, quite mellow (bass player from Kreidler!). - Dusty Springfield - Olifr M. Guz, best known as GUZ (from Die Aeronauten) continues his column. - Ohne Dolby: presents a mix tape by Monostars from Munich. - label portrait: popular african music (pam) is a label in Frankfurt. The owner talks about his label and the general sub-saharan music scene. Extremely great! - Aus der Schatztruhe: And then he writes about one of his favorite records, something from the \"treasure vaults\" - early 70ies piece by Fela Kuti. Fela was one of the most impressive live-performers I've ever seen, and is an extremely fascinating person. The Black President of Afro Beat! - label portrait: Right Tempo (Italy) - started reissuing italian 70ies cop-movie soundtracks. Now well established and renowned. - Internet art from Russia. - Belgrad radio B92 - banned for 10th anniversary! - and more - and all the records you need for summer - and those you ought to skip! (For more information and ordering details, contact the publishers at superstar-online@gmx.net )"}, {"response": 42, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (06:07)", "body": ""}, {"response": 43, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (06:09)", "body": "and for an even bigger taste of issue #13, see http://www.spring.net/~aschuth/"}, {"response": 44, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (18:14)", "body": "Ok, you can't really see too much on that picture, but it shows Fela Kuti (see Music conferences African Music topic...). Wanna see more covers? Perhaps all covers? Check our distributors website at http://www.vvmg.de/149.htm , where all covers are in full splendor and large size! We're already working on the next issue, getting interviews together, finding the really interesting stories, getting things to work... We right now organize another of our infamous \"meet your superstar\"-events, this one will take place in Cologne on August 19th. Meet me then at the Underground, where we'll have some truly great bands playing! Last year, the house was hot till 5 a.m. Stay posted for further transmissions. Further events in preparation to take place in September in Berlin and Frankfurt."}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jun 26, 1999 (19:09)", "body": "and when are the Austin shows scheduled?"}, {"response": 46, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jun 28, 1999 (09:54)", "body": "As soon as we get our, say, twothousandth US subscriber..."}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul  8, 1999 (05:26)", "body": "logical"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (22:26)", "body": "Alexander sent me here and here I am. Will have more to say when I have found someone to translate the German I saw going by. Reading now - post in as soon as I am through. Thanks, and Hello!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (23:20)", "body": "I am impressed! And, as a former college coed who ran copy in the middle of the night from the editors to the printers, I hope all of your operation is in-house. Don't think I will attempt that German considering the source and content. Now, to the important stuff...when do we get to see / hear the Teutonic Tones of our Alexander? I feared as I read that I had missed my big chance, but I see he is still prevaricating and telling us nonsense...*sigh* Your fans await!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (14:01)", "body": "Fans! Who cares for FANS - gimme READERS! And while you're at that, make it PAYIN' readers... Subscription, anyone? Radio X, where superstar rotation, the mag's weekly show is aired (Sundays, 19:00 - 21:00 h CET), is considering webcasting. Stay tuned, I'll let you know as soon as something happens. (P.S.: superstar actually has fans, especially in certain record labels, which help us a lot.)"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (15:59)", "body": "Please, I must have missed the answer to this question, but since I do not read German, is there an English language edition of SUPERSTAR? (I was talking about fans of Alexander..!)"}, {"response": 52, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "\"Fans of Alexander\" - huh, even worse - do you have any idea how much these glossy-printed autographs cost? Don't get people started up on this! This is strictly a non-personality-cult operation. superstar is a team sport! No, sorry to disappoint you, no English edition. But we run English-written articles in English if the author doesn't force us to translate it or the subject demands it. We're not yet distributed anywhere in the US at the moment either. Subscription only (first-time subscribers get a bonus - a shirt or CD, always good stuff). Some very popular German music mailorder shops carry superstar (Normal, Unrock, Flight 13), so people who order there might want to include a copy... Now, why would e.g. US-Americans order from German mailorder places? Because there are a great deal of US-bands that are REALLY good and that have a record-deal in Germany ONLY. That's right, there is really nice stuff by US-acts that has never been released in the States. (Pat Thomas of Innerstate Rec./San Francisco - I mentioned that label before - is working on releasing some great records by Bay Area artists that up to now were only available in Germany, so something is happening here...)"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (16:41)", "body": "Ah....but still no Beethoven, huh?! Never subscribed to something I could not read, but there is the possibility of a first time...!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (16:55)", "body": "No Beethoven, no Wagner. But Rocko Schamoni, Merricks, Fink, Guz, Bobby Conn, Nikki Sudden on Epic Soundtracks, Barbara Manning, Innerstate label, The Experimental Pop Band, Sportfreunde Stiller, Euro Boys, Rinocerose, music producer Daniel Rey, vinyl prices, book reviews, pt.2 of our bone-chilling foto-story,... (at least that's some of what's scheduled to happen in next issue). No Top-40. Good, interesting music from real people. Written by folks who care."}, {"response": 55, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (18:55)", "body": "don't know any of them but the free T-shirt has me intrigued..."}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug  4, 1999 (05:48)", "body": "Alexander, you know me too well. You know of my weak spot for people who care - even if they are not Beethoven or Brahms - or Wagner or live in Bayreuth."}, {"response": 57, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Aug  4, 1999 (16:49)", "body": "...plus it would do your German good, Stacey! Negotiate in the contract, don't forget it! He has to shower you with goodies, it's the law!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (09:39)", "body": "I'm still alive, but extremely busy. Just wanted to report back - next issue is on the way, lotsa hard work till then. Our event during the PopKomm expo in Cologne was very successful, and another is being prepared for Berlin in September. But first, gotta finish that #14 here... Tremendous chaos here... Oops, everybody's waiting for me! Gotta run! Talk to you soon! Bye!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (16:16)", "body": "...bye... (come back soon)"}, {"response": 60, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (17:25)", "body": "(will do, Stace!)"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (18:33)", "body": "Thanks for checking in, Alexander. I know this does not matter much that I worry about you with your goddess also concerned, but there it is. I was much relieved that you report that you are well and busy."}, {"response": 62, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (20:08)", "body": "Thank you, Marcia! Yes, the event in Cologne, current production and preparing the next event (September in Berlin!) needs much attention, so I haven't been able to stop by much.- superstar 3/99 (= #14) will have some english language content. Besides the reviews from the usual suspects (e.g. Pat Thomas), we have a piece by Barbara Manning on her going to New Zealand to record there... And of course the wonderful essay by Nikki Sudden on his late brother Epic Soundtracks, with fotos from the personal archive of Nikki. superstar will commemorate Epic on the cover of that issue, too, in a shot showing the brothers together."}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (21:16)", "body": "Guess I am going to have to subscribe. Your website does take plastic in $US, does it not? Please post it again for us - the URL... Danke!"}, {"response": 64, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Dec 10, 1999 (10:05)", "body": "Ok, as for the last post - sorry, no plastic accepted at this point in time. #15 - aka 4/99 - hits the news stands Dec. 16th. Stories: Quarks meet Stereo Total (Two of the most interesting current Berlin bands in an exclusive double date) Juan Burgos-Portfolio (magnificient collages by artist from Montevideo/Uruguay - to see is to be in awe!) In New Zealand - Barbara Manning (of San Francisco songwriter fame, writes about recording in New Zealand - now BTW touring + recording in Germany) Sparks (Yes, we have an in-depth interview with the Mael-brothers.) Brian Welsh from Ether Frolics & Jason Molina of Songs:Ohia about songwriting and the Chicago scene. Hank's Cooking Corner - Sticking It To The Man (Our man in country tells you who has told the man, and how to make Gumbo. Grand!) Guz: Froschregen (Live from the Rock'n'Roll-live of Guz... Of armchairs and smelling socks...) Ohne Dolby: Doc Wenz & Rev Krug, Mardi Gras.bb (The brass massacre's mix tape!) Rock Steady! (current Ska-releases) Book reviews 22 Pistepirkko (the Finnish band on the movie soundtrack they did) Alex Gopher (Parisian techno music for living rooms) DepthCharge /DC Recording Terranova (Berlin HipHop) Swing Special (The current players in the German neo-swing-thing.) Country Cologne: Hank McCoy on a new scene, feat. Peta Devlin, Franz Dobler, Little Opry... Aus der Schatztruhe: Raz Ohara about Michael Jackson's Thriller Ming (Surrealist Belgian chanson-electronique-duo), The Folk Implosion, Das Weeth Experience, Station 17, Decktronics Labelportrait: Virtual Volume - Onlinelabel from Hamburg + loads of record reviews, plus vinyl-7'' reviews."}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 10, 1999 (18:20)", "body": "Excellent news, Alexander. That is a seriously inclusive table of contents. How many writers do you have working with you - or do you do most of the writing? Little wonder, in any case, that we have not heard from you very much lately! I hope you can get some time to yourself over the holidays for celebrating and just plain being cool and edgy or funky and laid back...whichever...!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (17:23)", "body": "Gonna party with the team at our home-base bar tonight... No, I cut out of writing lately, there's too much work running the joint already."}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (18:15)", "body": "You are depriving your readership of the most valuable commodity - your skill and eloquence. I cannot read you in German, but your English is incredible, so the mother-tongue talent must be astounding. Sorry to hear that but understand completely! Party well and be careful where you crash - that it is figurative and not literally!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (00:32)", "body": "You gotta write man, why don't you try doing it early in the morning like Earnest Hemingway did. You're down, Alexander, but not down for the count. You can get up and win the next round!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Dec 26, 1999 (14:15)", "body": "Thanks for cheering me on. No, there's a serious time-problem - see, somebody has got to make sure everbody in the mag looks great, and that person is me. I'm actually more productive as editor the as writer, and then somebody has to act as publisher, too. I'm perfectly happy with that; I'm a team player, not a solo-dancer. When my team wins, I win. Perhaps I one day get a valuable player award for a zillion assists, and uncounted rebounds. Perhaps not. But if we make the Cup, how could I be unhappy? And, yeah, the next round... As a soccer trainer legend has said, the next game is always the hardest. 1/2000 will see a hike in ad prices (+ $$$!), but also increase of copies printed by 50% (- $$$$...). We go after more readers, hitting certain distribution areas where we should get good sales, but are underrepresented now. Also, my ad-exchange attempts and subscription drives start to bring in some results. We have achieved much, now it's time this translates into revenue. Next year will be make-or-bre k. Let's put it this way: All pieces are on the board now. Let's wait and see how the game unfolds."}, {"response": 70, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 26, 1999 (16:19)", "body": "This all sounds very familiar to anyone who has been around the publishing business. You have to spend money to make money and increase your visibility. I amdire you tremendously for taking SUPERSTAR up a notch and only good things are wished for you in this endeavor. I want it to be a success! I am still awaiting the English edition. BTW, doess your photograph appear anywhere in the magazine? Ever? Please keep us posted - this fan of yours is most eager to know of the successes and little setbacks you might encounter. Good Luck *Hugs*"}, {"response": 71, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 26, 1999 (16:21)", "body": "...that is... I admire you.... media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 36, "subject": "getting your ham radio license * ticket to talk!*", "response_count": 39, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (16:31)", "body": "The questions are available on the internet (as are LOTS of other ham-related sites). AA9PW's Amateur Radio Exam Practice Page is the best I've found: http://www.biochem.mcw.edu/Postdocs/Simon/radio/exam.html"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wer", "date": "Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (04:49)", "body": "(this is a test...had to kill this topic in another conf, wanted to make sure it still worked in here...)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (14:34)", "body": "But isn't there a difference between amateur radio and trucker's ole ham radio?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (16:59)", "body": "You mean CB, good buddy! Yep, they're night and day. CB is noisy, crowded, rude, boisterous, profane and crude. Ham (amateur) radio is much more civilized."}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (17:03)", "body": "I know amateur radio well (didn't know amateur=ham). My grandfather was a very enthusiastic Amateurfunker. Did you see the B92 topic? Got a contact to them; wonder if that would be topic for somebody in Austin? What do you think?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (21:34)", "body": "Mel Riser is getting his ham ticket, he's our guy at DDC who keeps our network up and running."}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 14, 2000 (20:21)", "body": "ZCZC AG03 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 3 ARLB003 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT January 14, 2000 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB003 ARLB003 Question Pool Committee Eyes February 1 Release Date A revised Amateur Radio question pool that reflects the April 15, 2000, restructuring rules could be out by February 1. Chairman Ray Adams, W4CPA, of the National Conference of Volunteer Examiner Coordinators' Question Pool Committee says workable question pools for the new Technician, General and Amateur Extra written exams will be made public by February 1 or ''very shortly thereafter.'' Adams says that a Technician class syllabus already has been drafted and approved. The various QPC members have been keeping in touch by telephone and e-mail since the FCC announced the restructuring rules December 30. Adams says that the QPC plans to further refine and update the newly configured pools in the future, after it has an opportunity to meet and formulate a plan. He said the revised question pools will follow the established format. After April 15, 2000, the FCC will only issue Technician, General, and Amateur Extra class licenses. Novice and Advanced licensees will retain current operating privileges and may renew indefinitely. Applicants desiring HF privileges will only have to pass a 5 WPM Morse code test. Current Amateur Radio study materials remain valid at least until the new rules become effective in April. There are four examination elements in the new licensing system. Element 1 is the 5 WPM Morse code test; Element 2 is a 35-question Technician test; Element 3 is a 35-question General test, and Element 4 is a 50-question Amateur Extra test. Frequently Asked Questions and other information on restructuring is available on the ARRL Web site. NNNN/EE \u001a"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (20:49)", "body": "From Mobile Aeronautics Education Laboratory WHAT ARE KEPLERIAN ELEMENTS? Satellite-tracking computer software use Keplerian elements (also known as \"orbital\" or \"tracking\" elements) to pinpoint the location of a satellite at any given time. The Keplerian elements provide the software with a snapshot of a satellite's orbital track, which the computer uses to calculate the future whereabouts of the satellite. Using such a computer tracking program allows an observer to determine when a satellite is to appear about his or her horizon. AMSAT The AMSAT News Service publishes weekly bulletins containing information of interest to amateur satellite operators, including Keplerian element postings for the shuttle and popular amateur satellites. These bulletins are distributed electronically through amateur satellites, the terrestrial amateur packet radio network, and through various landline networks. Their World Wide Web site is: http://www.amsat.org . AMSAT also maintains public mailing lists (email) to deliver Keplerian elements and other information. To subscribe to one or more mailing lists from AMSAT, send a message with your request to listserv@amsat.org. Be sure to include your call sign (if any), your correct email address, and the proper names (shown below) of the mailing lists you wish to receive. Put the word \"subscribe\" followed by one of the following in the text of the message (not the subject line): ANS - AMSAT News Service AMSAT-BB - AMSAT Bulletin Board KEPS - Keplerian Elements mailing list NASAINFO - NASA related information mailing list SAREX - Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment mailing list Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) This ftp site is available 24 hours a day with current satellite keplerian elements and software. The latest elements are available in: ftp://archive.afit.af.mil/pub/space/tle.new Format of the 2-line keplerian element files can be found in their tle.doc file. NASA Spacelink NASA's electronic information system, Spacelink, carries current shuttle mission status reports and Keplerian elements for low earth orbit satellites. The internet site name is \"spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov\" with TCP/IP address 192.149.89.61. Access can be gained through any of the following: World Wide Web: http://spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov/Instructional.Materials/Software/Tracking.Ele ments This site also has Gopher, Anonymous FTP, and Telnet access. Modem line (205) 895-0028, Terminal emulation VT-100, Data format 8-N-1 Goddard ARC The Goddard Amateur Radio Club, WA3NAN, maintains a BBS which carries Keplerian orbital elements updated daily, and daily SAREX bulletins and space shuttle mission information. Modem line (301) 286-4137 telnet: telnet://wa3nan.gsfc.nasa.gov TCP/IP address 128.183.105.17 Packet radio - WA3NAN on 145.090 MHz in the Maryland/DC area Johnson Space Center ARC The Johnson Space Center Amateur Radio Club maintains a BBS with the latest element sets available during a shuttle flight. Modem line (713) 244-5625 Celestial BBS Current orbital elements for SAREX and other Amateur Radio satellites are carried on the Celestial BBS. Keplerian elements are updated daily, when possible. Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system. Modem line (205) 409-9280"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (23:24)", "body": "I posted last week's Keplerian numbers on the Short Wave topic."}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (22:50)", "body": "ARLX001 Hedy Lamarr, actress and inventor, SK. Hedy Lamarr, the sultry, sexy screen star of the 1930s and 1940s who also conceived the frequency-hopping technique now known as spread spectrum, has died. Lamarr was found dead in her suburban Orlando, Florida, home January 19. She was believed to be 86. Born Hedwig Kiesler in Austria, Lamarr came to the US in 1937 after being signed by MGM. Among her most successful films was the 1949, directed Cecil B. DeMille classic, Samson and Delilah. In her 1992 book Feminine Ingenuity, Lamarr described how she came up with the idea of a signaling device for radio-controlled torpedoes that would minimize the danger of detection or jamming by randomly shifting the frequency. She and composer George Antheil developed the concept and received a patent for it in 1942. The concept was not developed during World War II, but when the patent expired, Sylvania put the idea to use in satellites. Spread spectrum also has found applications in wireless telephones, military radios, wireless computer links, and Amateur Radio experimentation. A more-detailed version of Lamarr's role in spread spectrum is described in the IEEE book Spread Spectrum Communications, published in 1983. NNNN /EX"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (01:41)", "body": "Virginia General Assembly praises hams The Virginia General Assembly has approved a joint House-Senate resolution praising the Amateur Radio response to Hurricane Floyd. The resolution unanimously passed both chambers on January 27. A signing ceremony has been set for February 17, 11:30 AM, at the Capitol in Richmond. The resolution praises the work of Virginia's ARES/RACES members last September when Hurricane Floyd totally isolated the City of Franklin, and rising flood waters forced city officials to abandon their Emergency Operations Center, forcing the city to rely completely on Amateur Radio for communication with the outside. ''With traditional lines of communication inoperable, the Amateur Radio operators, members of the Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) and the Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service (RACES), provided the only reliable communication into and out of the flood-ravaged Franklin area,'' the resolution says. According to the resolution, the Hurricane Floyd activation was ''the widest geographical and longest-running ARES/RACES activation in Virginia's history'' and involved nearly 150 ARES/RACES volunteers who put in some 9500 hours of duty to help coordinate emergency operations in Franklin. ''Due to the tireless efforts of amateur radio volunteers, the tragic effects of Hurricane Floyd were mitigated, the lives of those in the flood zone safeguarded, and the suffering of Franklin's residents alleviated,'' the resolution said in expressing the General Assembly's ''admiration and gratitude for the vital contributions of Virginia's amateur radio operators.''"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (01:46)", "body": "My ISP was created by Hams during Hurricane Iniki which devastated Kauai. It was the only means of getting information in and out of the mess the storm left until the military managed to get in some days later. I know some of these men, personally!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (02:01)", "body": "Maxim Memorial Station W1AW will be active during the 14th Annual School Club Roundup, February 14-18. This event is geared towards young amateurs, and school clubs. Certificates are available for various entry levels. Complete information can be found on the ARRL Web site, http://www.arrl.org/contests/announcements/00/scr.html . W1AW also will participate for the first time in the annual Guides on the Air (GOTA) event, February 19-20. During GOTA, Canadian and US amateurs help young women learn about Amateur Radio by making it possible for them to get on the air and communicate with their peers via Amateur Radio. Although this event originated in Canada, it has gained popularity in the US. Invite a few Girl Scouts (Daisy Scouts to Senior Girl Scouts and leaders) to your shack for that weekend. GOTA stations will be using all HF bands plus 2 meters on frequencies that end in ''33'' and ''88.'' More information on GOTA is available on the web at http://www.guidezone.skl.com/i_ha_index.htm ."}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (00:04)", "body": "Georgia Amateurs Respond to Tornado Disaster Amateur Radio operators are responding in force in the wake of tornadoes that struck rural extreme southwestern Georgia this week, killing more than a dozen people and injuring many more. Georgia Section Emergency Coordinator Tom Rogers, KR4OL, reports that hams from nearby communities including Moultrie and Albany have turned out to help. Twisters late Sunday and early Monday leveled a housing development in the town of Camilla, in Mitchell County. The town was one of the worst-hit areas. The storm also tore roofs from houses and flattened mobile homes. The storm caught many residents by surprise since warnings were not issued until after they'd already gone to bed for the night. Georgia Gov. Roy Barnes has declared a state of emergency in Colquitt, Grady, Mitchell and Tift counties. Georgia Emergency Management Agency reports emergency shelters have been set up in Camilla and Moultrie. ''Shelters are open, and the Georgia Baptist Hams are setting up feeding locations and assisting with the cleanup,'' Rogers said. An HF emergency net is running on 3975 kHz to coordinate activities. Rogers advised all participating stations to monitor that frequency. If relief operators are requested, operators should coordinate through the emergency net on 3975 kHz before attempting to enter the disaster area. Thousands were left without power in Georgia and elsewhere. The storm that wreaked havoc on Georgia was part of a system that also struck Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama before moving into Georgia, Northeastern Florida and the Carolinas."}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  1, 2000 (19:14)", "body": "Phase 3D Could Launch in July! The Phase 3D next-generation Amateur Radio satellite has been tentatively scheduled to launch in late July. The launch is listed in the ''Provisional Ariane Launch Manifest'' for February through July of this year appearing in the February edition of the Arianespace newsletter, ( http://www.arianespace.com/news_espace.html) . If the schedule holds, the Phase 3D satellite would be sent aloft on Ariane 507, flight V132. A specific date in July was not available. The Phase 3D satellite now is at the European Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana. Phase 3D will be stored in its shipping container, housed in an air-conditioned integration building at the launch complex until launch preparations commence. All systems have been shut down and the batteries left uncharged. A launch contract accepting Phase 3D as a payload for the first suitable Ariane 5 launch vehicle was signed last October. For more information about Phase 3D, visit the AMSAT-NA Web site, http://www.amsat.org/ . NNNN"}, {"response": 16, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (09:33)", "body": "What's this bird going to do specifically for hams?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (20:35)", "body": "Good question. I'll check and get back to you. Apparently it is (Having checked the website) it carries dial-up bulletin boards and other things exclusively for hams like packet transmissions. If you are not into those...you probably will not make much use of it. There are excellent links listed in the URLs in my last post above."}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (21:44)", "body": "ARRL invites input on new Certification and Continuing Education Program ARRL members are invited to offer their suggestions on the shape and scope of the new ARRL Certification and Continuing Education Program. A Web-based forum now is ''live'' to collect member input on how the program should be designed and what it should include. ARRL Educational and Technical Advisor L.B. Cebik, W4RNL, is serving as interim forum moderator-facilitator. The forum site is http://www.arrl.org/members-only/forums/index.php3 . It's being moderated to ensure that all member input is acknowledged and integrated as fully as possible into the developing program. Members are being asked to suggest specific programs and areas of study or skills development they would like to see as part of the Certification Program. The ARRL Board of Directors approved the development and implementation of the self-education program for radio amateurs at its January meeting. The program is aimed at inspiring amateurs to continue acquiring technical knowledge and operating expertise beyond that required to become licensed. The League will roll out the initial phase of the Certification and Continuing Education Program later this year."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:58)", "body": "ARRL Bulletin 22 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT April 19, 2000 FCC says Generals not allowed in Advanced subbands The FCC says newly upgraded General class licensees may not operate in the current Advanced class subbands under the new amateur rules. Bill Cross, W3TN, of the FCC's Public Safety and Private Wireless Division notes that no privileges changed for any license class. The Advanced class license continues to exist under restructuring, which became effective April 15, although the FCC no longer accepts applications for Novice or Advanced class licenses. Current Generals do not earn Advanced class privileges until they upgrade to Amateur Extra class, when they earn both Advanced and Extra privileges. The FCC also says General class operators may hold only Group C (1x3) or Group D (2x3) call signs, as it was under the old rules. Generals remain ineligible to apply for or hold Group B (2x2) call signs. Newly upgraded licensees were cautioned to check the revised Part 97 rules carefully to make sure they're not operating beyond their privileges. FCC Part 97 rules are available on the ARRL Web site at http://www.arrl.org/field/regulations/news/part97/ . The FCC today released the Errata to its December 30, 1999, Report and Order on restructuring. The Errata incorporate minor errors contained in the original R&O and already made in the version of the new rules that appeared in The Federal Register earlier this year."}, {"response": 20, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (01:44)", "body": "Not good news, for a potential upgrader like me. I was hoping to get all those extra class freqs without much sweat."}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (01:55)", "body": "Waited to long, Huh?! Hustle and take the exam before it goes into effect..."}, {"response": 22, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (13:06)", "body": "OK!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (16:08)", "body": "Wish I could be of more help than to cheer you on. It is a very hard row to hoe by yourself. I know...!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (04:13)", "body": "You can help if you run across a url to the question pool for going from general to extra."}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (00:15)", "body": "Gotch. I just might search for it...Google came up with all sorts of pool questions just by putting arrl pool questions on the search for line. http://www2.arrl.org/arrlvec/advanced.html is one I found..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (00:25)", "body": "\"Last updated 10:37 AM EDT on 04/19/96 \" A bit old, eh?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (00:31)", "body": "Of course, and I noted that before I posted it. I also commented that there are so many urls listed...I'll do better nex time... How often do they update the question pool? (going back to search for updated questions)"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (00:33)", "body": "This is the url you want http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/pools.html This is for use after April 15, 2000 for Extra class license http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/El4-2000.txt"}, {"response": 29, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (23:34)", "body": "Thanks, I'll go there and see if I know the stuff."}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "Good - I'll keep checking for updates, but that seems to be the current one."}, {"response": 31, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (12:57)", "body": "Thanks for the heads up."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May  9, 2000 (19:35)", "body": "FCC opens ULS to Web applications Amateurs now can file ULS applications via the Web. The FCC opened ULS to Internet filers on April 29 and formally announced the system this week. FCC Wireless Telecommunications Bureau Chief Thomas Sugrue announced that ULS users now can file applications and notifications via the Internet for all services previously only available by dial-up connection to the Commission's Wide Area Network. To access the new capability, visit the ULS home page at http://www.fcc.gov/wtb/uls and click on ''Online Filing.'' The ULS--the FCC's interactive on-line licensing application, modification and renewal system for wireless telecommunications services--was deployed for the Amateur Service last August 16. Sugrue noted that many ULS users had requested the ability to access ULS through the Internet in order to utilize their high speed Internet connectivity. He also addressed concerns about the security of transactions handled via the Internet. ''We now have the technology in place that assures the integrity and security of data transmitted over the Internet along with high speed connectivity,'' he said. ''This is another step forward in the expanding functionality of ULS.'' The FCC says that to make online payments requires that users be running the 128-bit encryption version of Netscape, Ver 4.73. The FCC currently supports only recent versions of Netscape for online filing tasks but says that support for other browsers and platforms is in the works and should be available shortly. Dial-up access continues to be available."}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (01:32)", "body": "New Mexico amateurs assisting in evacuation Hams in the Los Alamos, New Mexico, area are assisting local authorities and relief agencies in a mass evacuation as a result of wind-driven wildfires. ARRL New Mexico Section Manager Joe Knight, W5PDY, in Albuquerque reports the National Forest Service advised the City of Los Alamos and Los Alamos National Lab on May 10 to evacuate Los Alamos city limits by 5 PM Mountain Time. Knight was not sure how many hams were directly involved in the fire emergency response at this point. ''This affects approximately 12,000 to 15,000 people who will require immediate shelter,'' Knight said. The Red Cross is requesting additional medical personnel, as the evacuation includes hospital patients and staff. Amateur Radio Emergency Service and Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service personnel in Los Alamos have been activated for the past three days as a result of the ongoing fire situation. Knight said three repeaters in the fire zone have been put into use to handle emergency traffic, although the W5PDO Los Alamos Amateur Radio Club repeater at the fire station apparently has been shut down. ARES and RACES teams elsewhere in New Mexico are on standby to assist if needed. Knight reports that winds in the vicinity are currently gusting to 40 MPH and the flames are jumping treetop-to-treetop. ''It's a firestorm,'' Knight said. ''It's a bad situation.'' Standby emergency personnel from the Albuquerque Fire Department have been called to immediate duty, Knight reports, to assist in Los Alamos some 80 miles away. Meanwhile, Knight says the City of Alto, northeast of Ruidoso, already has been evacuated, and a number of houses east of Alto reportedly have been consumed by flames. The fire is spreading rapidly northeast of Ruidoso and already has consumed more than 6000 acres of forest. Citizens have been placed on alert in the Ruidoso area. ARRL Amateur Radio emergency and section personnel will continue to monitor the fire situation in New Mexico."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (02:07)", "body": "FCC says ULS registration can protect license record Registering now on the FCC's Universal Licensing System can benefit amateurs, even if they have no plans to file an application anytime soon. FCC staffer Steve Linn, N4CAK, says that ULS registration ''protects your call sign within the system'' and could prevent it from inadvertently being deleted or reissued due to a filing error. Linn also pointed out that amateurs filing for a change of address should file an ''administrative update'' (AU) and not request a ''modification.'' The ULS will not renew an amateur's license unless it is within the 90-day window of expiration or within the two-year grace period after expiration. The same applies for those upgrading under restructuring. Linn said the FCC continues to work out the bugs in the ULS. He said that support for the Mac platform and other browsers, such as Internet Explorer, should be available soon. The FCC in late April opened the ULS to Web filing. Linn advised filers to use the on-line system whenever possible, since it helps users to avoid errors that will not get trapped when filing on paper and could lead to delays or errors in your FCC record. Visit http://www.fcc.gov/wtb/uls for more information or to access the ULS."}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (00:12)", "body": "Tentative Phase 3D Launch Date Reset The Phase 3D Amateur Radio satellite will not launch until September at the earliest. Under the latest tentative Arianespace launch schedule, P3D now could go up on the Ariane Flight 507 as early as mid-September, but the launch could be as late as the end of October. Arianespace recently announced a resumption of Ariane flights. Flight 507 had been on the schedule to go into space in July, but concerns over potentially defective thrusters had caused some major customers to delay flight preparations. AMSAT-NA President Keith Baker, KB1SF, called the Arianespace announcement ''very good news'' for the Phase 3D program. The Phase 3D satellite is at the European Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana, awaiting the start of its launch campaign. Arianespace representatives met recently with Phase 3D representatives at AMSAT-DL headquarters in Marburg, Germany, to discuss preparations for the P3D launch campaign. The exact date of the Phase 3D mission's launch depends on the Ariane 506 launch, set for July, and the availability of the other satellites flying with P3D. A launch contract accepting Phase 3D as a payload for the first suitable Ariane 5 launch vehicle was signed last October."}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep  1, 2000 (20:39)", "body": "RF safety rules now in force for all amateurs ARRL Bulletin 37 - September 1, 2000 Starting September 1, every US amateur is required to fully comply with the FCC's RF exposure guidelines. The regulations, which went into effect January 1, 1998, require US Amateur Radio operators to read and understand the rules and, where necessary, perform technical evaluations to determine that their stations are compliant with the new regulations. Up until now, only hams who have had to file an Amateur Radio application with the FCC have had to certify compliance with the RF exposure rules. As of September 1, all amateurs must comply. Under the regulations, an amateur station must not exceed the maximum permissible exposure limits for transmitter operation. ''These regulations are not a major burden on the Amateur Radio Service,'' said ARRL Lab Supervisor Ed Hare, W1RFI. ''Most hams are already in compliance with the MPE requirements; some hams will need to conduct a simple station evaluation.'' A complete description of the rules is available on the ARRL Web site at http://www.arrl.org/news/rfsafety/ . The site also contains resources to make your station evaluation quite painless. Address questions about RF safety and the FCC exposure guidelines to ARRL Lab Supervisor Ed Hare, W1RFI, ehare@arrl.org."}, {"response": 37, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Sep  2, 2000 (09:07)", "body": "Marcia, you gonna radio me in Mali???"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 29, 2000 (04:26)", "body": "Alas, m'love I am a listener, not a transmitter. I climb the trees to put the antennas up and help wind transformers. However, there must be a way to interface with the internet. We MUST talk!!!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 19, 2001 (20:49)", "body": "Amateur Morse Testing Changes Effective July 1, 2001 New Morse code exam standards go into effect July 1 for all Volunteer Examiner Coordinators. The new standards call for Farnsworth character speed in the 13-to-15 WPM range and the end of multiple-choice questions for routine Morse code exams. In the wake of restructuring and the establishment of 5 WPM as the sole amateur Morse requirement, the National Conference of Volunteer Examiner Coordinators voted last July to set up the revised standards for the administration of Morse code examinations in the US. ARRL VEC Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ, points out the required change to the Farnsworth protocol replaces the 18-WPM character speed ARRL VEC has used since 1989. ''Standard 5 WPM messages with 5 WPM characters are available as an accommodation,'' he said. ''Standard (non-Farnsworth) speed messages are available upon special request from the ARRL VEC for ARRL VE teams.'' In addition, the Morse exam audio frequency range should be between 700 and 1000 Hz for routine exams. Consistent with the revised standards, Jahnke said, ARRL VEC has set 15-WPM characters as its Farnsworth setting and 750 Hz as its audio-frequency standard. Code practice transmissions from Maxim Memorial Station W1AW will reflect the new Farnsworth standard. W1AW Station Manager Joe Carcia, NJ1Q, says transmissions using the new protocol will begin Monday, July 2. Code transmissions at speeds below 18 WPM will drop from 18 WPM to 15 WPM character speed. W1AW Web code practice files, at http://www.arrl.org/w1aw/morse.html , will mirror the new standards too. The new Morse examination standards also affect test administration. After July 1, Morse examinees will have to supply fill-in-the-blank answers for the 10-question Element 1 quiz. Multiple-choice type examinations no longer will be acceptable. Under the new testing regime, Morse code examinees must either correctly answer seven of the ten fill-in-the-blanks questions or correctly copy 25 consecutive characters. Changes are on the horizon for the written examinations as well. Revised Amateur Extra question pool will go into effect July 1, 2002. Reworked Technician and General question pools will become effective on July 1 2003 and 2004 respectively. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 37, "subject": "Radio B92 (Belgrad)", "response_count": 36, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "The voice of opposition has been silenced in Belgrad. The staff works to get something going on. Support B92! http://www.b92.net/ is very informative on what happens in Serbia. I'll post below stuff sent to me by B92 staff, and will make them aware of this topic here (and http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/InternationalConflicts/all , of course)."}, {"response": 2, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (15:28)", "body": "Subject: FW: net-aid Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:54:38 +0200 When reality doesn't work anymore, we move to virtual world. But the pain is real and it stays with us. Get together in the world where we measure what we are by what we do. NET-AID FOR YUGOSLAVIA If you are willing to participate in the Anti-war action hosted by Radio B92 (site on helpb92xs4all.nl), last years winners of MTV Europe's \"Free Your Mind\" award, you can contact us on the following adress: sonjab92@xs4all.nl We will have an Internet event very soon going on - it will be a 24 hour long concert of the artists that expressed their aim to do something against advocating the violence as a way to solve political problems. Our goal is to get together this way, as we can not by other means, and listen to the music you are playing. This is a message itself. Thank you. Keep the fate. ********* PS Those of you willing to participate should contact either: sonjab92@xs4all.nl or ambrozic@sezampro.yu, asap, so that we can check which way is the best to join the action: you can play live in the recording studio that will be our host, you can send a message of support or you can send us your specially recorded music. Exact date will be in your mailbox soon. Mailing address: HelpB92 p/a De Balie Kleine Gartmanplantsoen 10 1017 RR Amsterdam"}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (15:30)", "body": "Subject: FW: WILL THE REAL RADIO B92 PLEASE STAND UP! Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:54:52 +0200 from http://b92.klari.net/b92/journal/default.asp?rubriek=1&id=337&language=2 News from B92 FROM THE STAFF OF THE REAL B92! WILL THE REAL RADIO B92 PLEASE STAND UP! BELGRADE, April 13, 1999 -- The new management of Radio B92, headed by the self-styled manager, Aleksandar Nikacevic, seized control of Radio B92 from the hands of its staff on April 2, 1999, with no legal grounds to do so. Radio B92 is a socially owned company. Under Serbian law this means that the employees of the company are responsible for hiring and firing senior management. The new management was appointed by the Belgrade Youth Council, which claims that Radio B92 is its subsidiary. Ten days earlier, on March 24, the Yugoslav Telecommunications Ministry banned Radio B92, seizing essential transmission equipment to prevent the resumption of broadcasts. To justify this, the Ministry alleged that B92 had exceeded its maximum permitted transmission power of 300 W. In fact B92 had been broadcasting at between 190 and 220 W. It appears that the ban on transmission does not apply to the usurping management. On April 12, that management began broadcasting from the B92 transmitter on 92.5 MHz, using the \"B92\" call signal. The transmission power is approximately 1,000 W. Why did a group of war profiteers close to government circles get the green light to seize Radio B92 as a trophy of war? The reason most often cited is a letter from B92 Editor-in-Chief Veran Matic. The letter, which was published in the New York Times and Le Monde, protested against NATO's military intervention in Yugoslavia. It also criticised the Milosevic government. Radio B92 has been familiar to Belgraders for almost a decade. In the past three years it has become known worldwide as a champion of democracy and free speech in Serbia. All the staff of this Belgrade broadcaster have expressed the strongest opposition to the usurping management. No staff member has or will cooperate in any way with them, nor will they collaborate in ruining the reputation it has taken them a decade to build. The team of the only legitimate Radio B92 emphasises that it has no connection with the program which began broadcasting yesterday on the 92.5 MHz frequency in Belgrade. Radio B92 has traditionally been a rallying-point for the Belgrade public. Under normal circumstances we would call on that public to defend the radio they trust, the radio which rates Number One in Belgrade. However, thanks to the war and the critical situation in the country, the closure and takeover of the station have gone unreported in most media. In these circumstances the Radio B92 team is restricted to seeking redress through the courts for the unscrupulous takeover of the station and the destruction of the name and image of Radio B92, both within Yugoslavia and abroad. The legal procedures so far begun include an appeal against the court decision appointing Aleksandar Nikacevic manager of Radio B92. Charges have also been pressed against Nikacevic and the Belgrade Youth Council director, Vlada Zagradjanin, for unlawful seizure of the Belgrade premises and equipment of ANEM, the Association of Independent Electronic Media in Yugoslavia. ANEM, of which Radio B92 is a founding member, is a totally separate business entity from B92 and its takeover is not supported by even the putative court decision invoked in the case of B92. The staff of B92 will also demand the revocation of new company documents registered by the courts and used to facilitate the takeover of the station. These documents were lodged by a person not authorised to do so. The staff of Radio B92 assert that the state of war must not mean anarchy. On the contrary, it should result in the strictest respect for the law. Since the moment they first charged in and took control of our studios by force, the usurpers have taken one illegal step after another. The staff of Radio B92 are compelled to acknowledge that force is on the side of the usurping management. They emphasise, however, that law and justice are not. This is the third time in its ten-year history that our station has been banned. We shall endeavour to preserve the Radio B92 team and to begin a number of projects. These will clearly prove that the Radio B92 known to the world before this forced takeover still exists. The B92 staff have managed to preserve the station's web site under their control. This will not be updated until the radio is returned to its staff. The most radical manifestation so far of Serbia's Draconian repression of its independent media was the murder, just two days ago, of Slavko Curuvija, the owner and editor-in-chief of the independent daily Dnevni telegraf and the fortnightly Evropljanin. This appalling crime has made it almost impossible to guarantee safety and normal working conditions for independent media and journalists. In addition to the enemy within, a new enemy without has"}, {"response": 4, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May  6, 1999 (12:14)", "body": "PRESS RELEASE FreeB92 - presents NetAid Global 24-Hour Peace Netcast in aid of Radio B92, Yugoslavia When reality fails us, we move to the virtual world. But pain is real and it stays with us. A few hours before the beginning of NATO air strikes on Yugoslavia, Serbian government shut down the independent Radio B92 from Belgrade. A few days later it was completely taken over by the government-appointed new management on grounds of an illegal court verdict reinforced by brutal police force. No B92 staff agreed to ally with the new management. For 10 years Radio B92 has been the vital voice of opposition in Serbia. By using the common language of advanced popular music and culture along with professional journalism, it stood against ethnic hatred, violence and war. We have promoted human rights, freedom of expression and speech, respect of minorities and differences. We have played house, techno, drum'n'bass, jazz, hip hop, alternative rock. For our continuous struggle and commitment, we have won world-wide acclaim, including MTV's Free Your Mind award in November 1998. On 15 May, Radio B92 will have a 24-hour internet broadcast - NetAid - dedicated to the 10th anniversary of Radio B92 with participation of numerous artists from all over the world (see list bellow), HelpB92 group (Amsterdam), friends of B92, and technical support of Kunstradio (Vienna) and Radio Qualia (Australia). The broadcast will take place at 'Free B92' web site, with the basic idea to show solidarity and support B92 team which continue to keep the faith and defend the free spirit of B92 in spite of war, government repression and the latest ban on the radio station. Free B92 is a website founded by the Help B92 coalition. Free B92 website is made and maintained by the crew of journalists and associates of B92 projects that are currently situated in different parts of the world. Free B92 will primarily focus on the status of independent media in Yugoslavia, providing information on that situation to the international audience, along with diferrent art or music actions, like NetAid. NetAid will take place at the following URL: www.freeb92.net as well as at: www.helpb92.xs4all.nl. www.b92.net The artistic concept behind this project is to unite different musicians, artists, producers and DJs around the struggle for the freedom of expression. Get together in the virtual world as creation is the only possible answer to destruction. This event is announcing the age when artists will be able to react to the horrors of our time directly from their studios, bedrooms or clubs. The message is out there for the world to listen. Join in Radio B92's 24-hour global music peace netcast. Play a song or DJ live in our designated studio (in Vienna), dedicate a track or a DJ mix, or simply send a message to voice your opposition to the use of violence as a means to solve political problems. Join to send a birthday card for banned Radio B92's 10th anniversary! CDs, MDs, DATs and other music materials for this event can be sent to: ORF - KUNSTRADIO ATTN. NET-AID ARGENTINIER STR. 30A A-1040 WIEN AUSTRIA (Please, enclose a short biography/info) Voice mailbox for birthday greetings and messages of support: +31 20 4216439 For further information please contact Gordan or Sonja of the FreeB92 team: Gordan Paunovic Tel. +431 504 3110 Technical support (FTP, encoding) - Adam Hyde (Radio Qualia) Artists confirmed for 15 May NetAid so far: DJ John Acquaviva (Definitive/Plus 8) Canada DJ Miles Holloway (Paper Recordings) England Disko B family (Hell, Naughty etc) Germany DJ Charlie Hall (Vic Music) England DJ Fred Giteau (ex-POF Records) France DJ Mark Allen (Quirk) London DJ Blim (Emotif) England Davide Squillace (Cloned Vinyl) Italy Amptek (Eclectic) Italy Sonic Youth, USA Mike Watt (ex-Minutemen, ex-Firehose) USA EC8RO (Digital Hardcore Recordings) Germany Syd Griffin (Cole Porters, ex-Long Ryders) USA Boiled In Lead, USA (Balkan-music influenced band) Anastasia, Macedonia (see OST for \"Before The Rain\") Comma, USA Big Sky, USA Xchange network live stream Live stream from Belgrade: DJ Vlada Janjic (B92) DJ Boza Podunavac (B92) Teenage Techno Punks B92 birthday concert (Belgrade): Darkwood Dub Kanda Kodza i Nebojsa Neocekivana sila... Jarboli Other Voices (Echoes From a War Zone), sound piece Gordan Paunovic (B92) Kunstradio production and many more. Vienna on-site line-up will be confirmed soon. Some parts of NetAid will be broadcast on FM4 (Vienna). Check our home page for more details soon. NetAid events will be organized every month until B92 is back on air. Stay net-tuned! Keep the faith! FreeB92 team."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May  7, 1999 (00:44)", "body": ""}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May  7, 1999 (00:45)", "body": "Why don't you line one up for the Spring, Alexander? I can also make the InternationalConflicts conference resemble the B92 site, if you'd like... (sorry I haven't responded to you much lately... this job/no job thing is keeping me tied up...)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May  7, 1999 (02:52)", "body": "(Send me an invitation to B92 staff to join the Spring, and I'll forward it. Belgrad itself is hard, as they sleep by day, hide by night, and then there are the power outages.)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May  7, 1999 (03:30)", "body": "hmmm...let me get some sleep, and I'll write you one up..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (17:05)", "body": "Sleepyhead! Never did! Never mind, but tomorrow is the big 24h-Netaid event!! Tell more people, this will be great!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (17:49)", "body": "The Program, fresh off my mailbox. NetAid runs NOW! Some house-set they play right now... Time is Central European Summer Time, now it is: 00:37 on May 15th As we listen, Belgrad radio B92 celebrates it tenth birthday - and is banned for the first time. Support Free B92 ! ************************************* NetAidShowTime is subject to sudden changes. NetAid doesn't believe in the power of clock. 00.00 le boum de luxe FM4 netaid special dj abraxas, dj electric indigo, hans wu, gordan paunovic no more bombs - rockin' house mix by dj charlie hall live ORF - FM 4 studios vienna 05.00 relaxation - vlada janjic (B92) dj set 06.10 BPM - boza podunavac (B92) dj set 07.20 re-evolution in peace - fred giteau dj set 09.20 word processing - comma text based improvisation performed as a plea for peace in kosovo 09.30 breakfast music - steve shelley (sonic youth) dj set 10.15 she - boiled in lead an original song by adam stemple to rhythms learned from balkan music. recorded live march 17 1995 in minneapolis 10.20 big sky siberia 10.30 obozavam te - les masochats psy trance paris - belgrade project for peace in balkans 11.20 slaga se sl'nce da zajde/the sun ascends to go down - anastasia recorded february 1999, skopje macedonia 11.30 corrosion belgrade 12.00 xchange - tetsuo kogawa, borut savski and r a d i o q u a l i a live japan ljubljana vienna 13.00 john acquaviva dj set - house 14.50 paper recordings presents miles holloway dj set - deep house 16.00 peaceful mix for B92 - charlie hall dj set - electro 17.00 my first - dj blim dj set - drum'n'bass 18.00 colin favor and brenda russell dj set - techno 19.30 other voices: echoes from a war zone gordan paunovic - kunst radio production 20.30 b92 birthday concert darkwood dub kanda kodza i nebojsa jarboli neocekivana sila koja se iznenada pojavljuje i resava stvar 13 may 1999, secret location - belgrade 22.30 sonic youth concert paris, spring 1999 23.30 mike watt live live columbia studios los angeles california plus 24 -hour sounds of B92 original jingles (berlin grand prix), B92 releases, bombing soundscapes and live war stream from belgrade etc. NetAid, which will soon develop into a permanent B92 international forum, is to enable artists from around the world to create or dedicate music, radio and sound art that would represent their reaction to the current events in yugoslavia. The main motto of the first NetAid event, scheduled for may 15 (the 10th anniversary of B92), is to protest against violence as a means of solving political conflicts and to raise awareness about independent media workers in yugoslavia in distress. 24-hour NetAid happening wants to bring together musicians, individuals and bands, as well as DJs, sound and radio artists, around the project which would confirm that we are together - at least in the virtual world. NetAid is announcing a new, self-conscious, interactive age. in this event, the musicians will not contribute with money, but with the most precious value of all - creativity - the ultimate denial of destruction. for B92, this project is the extension of a virtual radio, an action opening a n w field of possibilities. when radio B92 was banned in1996/97, the internet was the tool used to save the station. this is why the news we hear today on the possible internet ban on yugoslavia means that the forces of repression, which are always complementary, have started to take their toll in revoking the freedom of speech, expression and communication. freeB92 celebrates its 10th birthday on the internet, hoping that it will very soon be back on air and following our motto \"24 hours over belgrade, yugoslavia and the world\"."}, {"response": 11, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 15, 1999 (08:03)", "body": "Major error: \"As we listen, Belgrad radio B92 celebrates it tenth birthday - and is banned for the ***third*** time.\" Right, the third time, not the first... I'm tuned in to this program, and it's really good fun! Special events this evening (CET - afternoonish in Austin) will be the Sonic Youth and Mike Watt concerts."}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, May 16, 1999 (10:36)", "body": "Huh, just in time for the concerts, my ISP crashed, it seems. Still, it was fun while it lasted. This was mailed to me today: *From this evening's Wired website: Belgrade's Radio B92 Is Back by Laura Martz 5:30 p.m. 14.May.99.PDT AMSTERDAM --This weekend, Belgrade's old rock-and-roll Radio B92 is back with a vengeance, but it's on the Web. Just days after NATO began bombing Belgrade, police commandeered the B92 studio and installed a puppet station manager. The original staff quit, and now, instead of B92's alternative programming, the state-controlled station plays Balkan folk music and Serbian state news. Starting at midnight Friday, Central European Time, 24 hours of music, live performances, and messages of support for the station will go out across the world on the Free B92 Web site. B92 DJs will conduct the NetAid webcast live from a borrowed Austrian state radio studio. The site will be stored on servers in Amsterdam. The DJs will be joined by musicians and sound experimenters from around the world, including Sonic Youth's Steve Shelley, who will DJ a set at 9:30 a.m. Saturday, and Mike Watt (late of Firehose), who will close the broadcast with live music at 11:30 p.m. \"[B92] stands for a cosmopolitan, open way of life. For the time being, B92 will not be able to gather news. [But] B92 mainly has been radio, music. They embody a specific rock-and-roll spirit people recognize,\" said Amsterdam media theorist and B92 advocate Geert Lovink. Adam Hyde, of Australia's online radio station radioqualia, is helping with the webcast. Hyde said that it is intended to publicize the banning of independent media in Yugoslavia \"and to show solidarity to the many, many completely isolated and demoralized individuals.\" Julia Glyn-Pickett, a former B92 news editor, said that the webcast would \"show there are forces for peace, to show there are people who protest the use of violence to deal with political problems.\" Ex-staffers also hope that the events will kick off a series of monthly webcasts until the \"real\" B92 can return to the airwaves. Meanwhile, staffers have filed a lawsuit to get their station back. Journalistic accreditation in Yugoslavia is under tight control. When the reporters left B92, they lost permission to gather news. Currently, they're using the Free B92 site to direct readers to other news sources on the Web. \"B92's slogan has always been 'Don't trust anyone. Not even us,'\" said Glyn-Pickett. By presenting a range of media takes, \"we want to provoke people to think critically about the information they've got.\" Ousted B92 personnel have scattered to cities across Europe, including Budapest and Amsterdam, said Glyn-Pickett. NATO strikes started while she was vacationing in the United Kingdom, and she has remained in Western Europe ever since. But most B92 castaways remain in Belgrade. Many will be involved with the webcast. \"The thing about Serbia is you never know when the ax will fall and which is the straw that's going to break the camel's back,\" Glyn-Pickett said. \"If you think [of the danger], you'll never do anything.\""}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug  5, 1999 (12:32)", "body": "From B92 staff - great news! ******************************************************* THE FREE VOICE OF THE REAL B92 IS BACK BELGRADE, August 2, 1999 - Four months after the illegal government seizure of the premises and frequency of the award-winning independent Belgrade Radio B 92, the station's staff resumed newscasts at 08.00 CET on Monday August 2, under the name of B2-92. Radio B92 was banned by Yugoslav telecommunications authorities on March 24, but continued to broadcast via the Internet and the Association of Independent Electronic Media (ANEM) Radio and Television Networks until its premises were forcefully occupied by a government appointee on April 2. The B2-92 news program is produced by the real team of Radio B92, all of whom refused to work for the new government management currently using the B92 name and frequency, and is broadcast on the third frequency 99.1 FM of the Belgrade municipal station Studio B. The editorial independence of Radio B2-92 is guaranteed in a contract between ANEM, of which the real B92 is a founding member, and Studio B. The B2-92 program, which is on air from 08.00 am to 20.00 CET seven days a week, has the familiar B92 mix of professional news, cosmopolitan music and culture features. A complete program schedule is available on B2-92\u2019s web site: http://www.freeb92.net The B2-92 program is part of a broader campaign to restore Radio B92 to its listeners and its rightful owners - its staff. The campaign will involve various public actions in Belgrade, cyberspace and abroad, which will be publicised on the B2-92 program and on the station\u2019s web site (address as above). B2-92 will shortly restore Real Audio web casts of its programs on its Internet site, as well as its Internet news bulletins in Serbian and in English. Listeners of the real B92 outside Belgrade will also soon be able to receive B2-92 news programming via their local stations in the ANEM Radio and Television Networks. The real B92 team would like to thank the many people who have supported and helped us during this difficult time, all of our listeners, and in particular our partners in ANEM. We hope you will stay tuned to our struggle to regain control of our B92 name and frequency, and to free all other media that have experienced similar censorship and repression."}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug  5, 1999 (13:16)", "body": "Alexander, this is tremendous news. Are they available on short wave yet?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug  5, 1999 (19:54)", "body": "Great news! Let us know when they throw the switch."}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Aug  6, 1999 (14:53)", "body": "Check their website - plus NetAid is on via the web every 15. of the month! I'll post anything they sent me, so stay tuned."}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug  7, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "we usually do!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (08:19)", "body": "From: \"Dragan\" Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:37:22 +0200 hope you're all well my computer completely crashed, and i wasn't able to reach you earlier, but net aid 4 is going on right now... check www.freeb92.net/netaid thank you dragan"}, {"response": 19, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (08:20)", "body": "So please visit http://www.freeb92.net/netaid and enjoy!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (14:31)", "body": "Will do, Alexander. Where have you been besides working feverishly on your next issue of SUPERSTAR?!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (12:22)", "body": "Doing just that! Plus had this event in Cologne, one of our \"meet your superstar\" festivals... Plus prepare the next \"meet your superstar\" night for September in Berlin... We're behind production schedule, so that explains some, huh?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (14:05)", "body": "That explains it all, and the reason I have held off the email urge. but I will send a short one soon to catch you up on things. It is *So* good to have you back posting your acerbic comments...I missed you!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (20:50)", "body": "...and continue to miss you. It is like talking to myself on Spring lately...*sniff*"}, {"response": 24, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jan 18, 2000 (05:33)", "body": "B2-92 is still working towards democracy in Yugoslavia. Anybody interested in the situation there should subscribe to their daily and very concise newsletter, from which http://206.97.234.70/yapp-bin/restricted/respond/InternationalConflicts/11 or http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/respond/InternationalConflicts/11 is a sample featuring news about one of the most publicized figures in current Balcan affairs..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 18, 2000 (12:58)", "body": "I shall do so (subscribe)...I already get information from ARRL for Radio and from The Honolulu afternoon newspaper for instate information plus earthquake information all emailed to me. Thank you for the URL, Alexander. I shall contribute to this as I find things to post as I also have a Reuters ticker running across my desktop."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 18, 2000 (13:01)", "body": "I think that should be http://206.97.234.70/yapp-bin/restricted/read/InternationalConflicts/11 or http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/InternationalConflicts/11"}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (13:20)", "body": "I did subscribe and received my first email from them...all about the Trilateral Commission! Trilateral Commission agrees on expanded Energy for Democracy BUDVA, Wednesday - Representatives of the international community and the Serb opposition have agreed to extend the Energy for Democracy project. The Portuguese ambassador to Yugoslavia, Antonio Tanger Correa, who chaired today's meeting of the Trilateral Commission in the Montenegrin coastal resort of Budva, told media that the meeting had given a green light to the project. The proposal will be discussed by the European Council of Ministers on Monday. Correa also said that the EU was facing a new challenge because the Serbian opposition had united, but had united behind the issue of lifting sanctions against Yugoslavia. This was not a matter for today's meeting to decide, said the Portuguese ambassador, adding that international representatives had concluded that the opposition leaders must be taken seriously on this issue. The coordinator of the Alliance of Democratic Parties, Zarko Korac said today that international representatives had displayed good will in proposing that the suspension of sanctions be discussed by the Council of Ministers on Monday. Korac said that today's meeting had been told clearly that countries which formerly opposed the lifting of sanctions were now ready to discuss it seriously in the light of the Serbian opposition's new unity. Opposition meets again BELGRADE, Wednesday - The second meeting of Serbian opposition representatives this month has been underway at the headquarters of the Democratic Party of Serbia today. The opposition parties are discussing further details of the joint strategy and cooperation agreed on at a Serbian Renewal Movement-hosted meeting on January 10. The president of the Democratic Party of Serbia, Vojislav Kostunica told representatives that today's meeting would mean the solidification of the January 10 agreement and the definition of relationships among the signatories. Kostunica added that the agreement was a strong basis for unity of all opposition parties for change in Serbia. Matic: Montenegrin Mafia killed Arkan NEW YORK, Wednesday - Underworld boss and paramilitary commander Zeljko \"Arkan\" Raznatovic was murdered by Montenegrin Mafia as part of a putsch on Belgrade, Federal Information Minister Goran Matic told the New York Times today. Matic denied rumours of the Belgrade regime's involvement in Arkan's death, saying that he was simply a criminal who had been murdered by the Montenegrin Mafia, which wanted to take over Belgrade. The minister also confirmed information published in state media that one of Arkan's attackers had been seriously wounded and was in a Belgrade hospital. Police are waiting to interrogate the suspected gunman once he recovers from surgery. Deputy Montenegrin Prime Minister Novak Kilibarda today put Matic's statement in the context of current relations between Serbia and Montenegro, telling Radio B2 92 that it was propaganda for the Serbian electorate. \"Goran Matic is an intelligent man who probably knows what he is doing,\" said Kilibarda, adding that such propaganda would keep up support for the authorities while they prepared for violent moves against Montenegro. A Federal Foreign Ministry spokesman, Rade Drobac, has also denied speculation that Yugoslav authorities were involved in Arkan's murder. Drobac told Associated Press today that Arkan was not a political personality, adding that the story had been blown up by the West, and the Federal Government was not interested in it. One of the gunmen who attacked Arkan in Belgrade's Hotel Intercontinental on Saturday was wounded in the shootout and is under police guard in Loznica Hospital, Belgrade daily \"Blic\" writes today. The unconfirmed report names the man as Dusan Gavric, 25, from the village of Trbusnica near Loznica. Gavric is believed to have been a member of Arkan's paramilitary unit and is also rumoured to have been an operative in the State Security Service. Police have not yet issued any statement on the murder. A memorial service for Raznatovic was held in Belgrade's Union House today, attended by about 2,000 people. He will be buried in Belgrade tomorrow.. Public Prosecutor demands investigation of opposition allegations BELGRADE, Wednesday - A Belgrade public prosecutor today demanded that Belgrade police investigate allegations by the Serbian Renewal Movement, the Alliance for Change and a number of their officials about the murder of underworld boss Arkan and the theft of transmission equipment from Studio B Television. The investigation should aim at determining whether the criminal offence of disseminating false information had been committed. The opposition statements allege state terrorism, anarchy, and legal and media terrorism and claim that further acts will follow in an attempt by state bodies to conceal such acts, said the statement from Public Prosecutor Milan Petkovic. Church head hospi"}, {"response": 28, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Jan 21, 2000 (14:24)", "body": "Good sources they use, too."}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 21, 2000 (16:31)", "body": "This free subscription is the best deal going on the Internet. They do not cover the same subjects over and over as I was afraid they might - they are a very credible news organization which does their homework and cites their sources. Thanks for telling us about this great place!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (14:38)", "body": "That's just what I said. These people do their work with pride, and I am happy to have been able to get in touch with them and work a little bit with one or two of them. Too bad the thing that triggered this had to be a war, in which my country helped bomb theirs without any limitations."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (16:14)", "body": "Look what we did to Dresden. You cannot accept the responsibililty for all of the ills of people who just might be territorially related to you. We just are required to not forget so we do not do the same thing again... B92 is indeed a great resource and I am grateful for their email every morning!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:58)", "body": "Attack on Studio B transmitter BELGRADE, Monday - Five men in police camouflage uniforms this morning disabled Studio B Television and Radio B292 transmission equipment in Belgrade after beating a technician and security guard. The five men gained access to the equipment after asking to use a telephone. They then tied up duty technician Mirko Slavkovic and security guard Dragan Lukovic and hit them repeatedly on the head with gun butts. They then removed essential transmission equipment before escaping in a police jeep. The Serbian Internal Affairs Ministry today denied that Serbian police had been involved, saying that the information was malicious, inaccurate and had been fabricated by Studio B in the interests of the media campaign against the police. A statement from the ministry said that police had attended the scene and were taking steps to solve the crime. The attack on the transmitter temporarily took Studio B and Radio B2-92 off the air. Radio B2 92 is now working with improvised equipment. The Belgrade District Court is expected to rule this evening on charges brought by police Brigadier-General Branko Djuric against Studio B and its editor-in-chief. Djuric has alleged that his personal rights were breached by untrue allegations on a program broadcast by Studio B on February 26. During the program Djuric was accused of having organised the escape of a truck driver responsible for a traffic accident in which four Serbian Renewal Movement officials were killed. Studio B also received notice today from the Federal Ministry of Telecommunications demanding that the company pay almost eleven million dinars in licence fees within eight days. Studio B Director Dragan Kojadinovic today denied that Studio B owed money for licence fees, saying that the company had a ten-year frequency licence, although the latest decree from the federal government did not recognise that."}, {"response": 33, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (09:58)", "body": "See, if they do their journalistic work, every suit against them rushes through the courts like water. But their case against the B92-takeover from one year ago... Haven't heard about that in a while."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (13:01)", "body": "I was curious about that takeover and what had happened since last we have heard. I guess, nothing, or they would have reported it! Doing a proper journalistic job is the only way to go and law suits become just a minor inconvenience. Good for Radio B-92."}, {"response": 35, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (02:16)", "body": "Hmh, and it looks like they got some buddies, too: FreeB92 News for 03/07/2000 City of Belgrade to pay Studio B fines and fees BELGRADE, Tuesday - The Belgrade City Assembly, as proprietor of Studio B Television, will pay fees demanded by the government for frequency licences and fines imposed under the Public Information Act. Social Democratic Union President Zarko Korac last night told media that opposition leaders had met at Studio B's premises with Studio B Director Dragan Kojadinovic. Belgrade Mayor Vojislav Mihajlovic also attended the meeting. In a statement read after the three-hour meeting, Mihajlovic demanded that the authorities cease all forms of terrorism against Studio B, warning that otherwise the opposition parties would take action to defend the free media in Serbia."}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (10:08)", "body": "That is good news. It is always helpful to have friends in high places =) media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 38, "subject": "How to set-up internet broadcasting", "response_count": 101, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "As some people here already know, superstar has a weekly radio show (more information in http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/music/59 ). And since this taping and copying of shows is bothersome, I'd like to find a way to achieve the following goals: (A) Webcast the show live. (B) Archive the show on the web, so everybody can replay older stuff. (C) Provide a good format/medium to distribute the show to other radio stations."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (21:49)", "body": "The Spring uses a realaudio server. We don't serve up video, you need a more robust server than we have for that."}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (13:08)", "body": "\"The Spring uses a realaudio server.\" Great, how do you do this? Would be enough for me, to stream the show to the web, plus run it into a file for archiving/rerunning/distributing it. Assume that I have a analogue audio signal to work with, and a dedicated PC (perhaps not even in the studio, but at some collaborateur's place within receiving range of broadcaster) with internet access (56k or ISDN). What software is needed? What are the lowest hardware requirements in your opinion (I have some stuff laying around here, but no budget for this)? Any special/unusual gimmicks I'd need?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (14:12)", "body": "Just get an NT box set up and download the server from http://www.real.com , there is a whole section there on how to do this."}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (20:44)", "body": "Right. And how does my nice sound get into the NT-Box? Does a standard line-in on any Soundblaster-card do it? And the box - any hint on what specs? I could dedicate either a PC (P133, 32 MB, 540 MB, currently Win98) or a older notebook (486DX2-100, 16MB, 1GB, currently running Win95)."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 11, 1999 (21:20)", "body": "Standard line in should do, get a dual processor Pentium II box if you can. With a stable motherboard like a Gigabyte. And lot's of hard disk space if you're going to save .ra files."}, {"response": 7, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (12:25)", "body": "Huh, you talk serious money. I only got scrap hardware. \"And never the twain shall meet?\""}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (16:17)", "body": "hey, part of this conversation I completely understand and can relate to!!!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (19:16)", "body": "But we two, laddie, we two shall always meet again. Terry, how much diskspace - 2 GB enough?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (03:37)", "body": "That would be a good minimum. You can always add more drives."}, {"response": 11, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (21:31)", "body": "Ok, get back to you when I got hold of a disk - got one, even SCSI, but you can't write to it... On Scandisk, it stops spinning, then speeds up and brakes down. Does that until it stopps; perhaps from overheating? Weird. I've got another try..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (13:32)", "body": "...but that baby has UW-SCSI, and my SCSI-box only does SCSI-II, so I have to wait until the shop gets an adapter and find out if my SCSI controller runs the Ultra Wide disk as regular fare, too. Hey, I've got an invitation from realnetworks to attend a seminar on their technology! As soon as our #13 is off to the printers (right now hacking last articles togetherm while already deep in production...), and I have promotion set up, I want to really get into this. Besides the weekly radio show and the occasional DJing of our superstar club rotation branch, we will have a major event in August. 5 bands on stage, DJs and good fun till sunrise! On August 19th, we'll present another of our \"meet your superstar\" festivals, again during the world's greatest music expo, Cologne's PopKomm. Only gotta figure out how to set a webcast up... Perhaps find an ISP to cooperate..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (14:21)", "body": "cool!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (16:10)", "body": "ditto!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (14:11)", "body": "What, the seminar-invitation or that other thang? Or the more than vague prospect to get to see that other thang? Anyway, will post more about it in superstar's very own topic, as soon as this place has calmed down a bit. I don't want to sound off, but we got some really great bands booked... Time: -7 days to print shop."}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 27, 1999 (07:57)", "body": "Time: -5 to print shop. Uh-oh."}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 27, 1999 (21:36)", "body": "*drum roll*"}, {"response": 18, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (17:43)", "body": "Wow, the last two days were cool. I've been to the seminars by RealNetwork, maker of the RealAudio server, player and the whole shebangle. That software is WAY cool. They've shown how you can include pictures, video, static and dynamic text together with audio tracks in your webcast/site, bundling it all with their SMIL file format. Purrty impressive, I must say. If I only had the machine park and mobile means to hook the gear up... Or had a sponsor... (Actually, I met a guy there from Berlin who might try to talk his company into sponsoring us. But I'll never tell anybody about this before it's sure...)"}, {"response": 19, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (17:45)", "body": "(And some things I've seen there ought to be further investigated by our own Wer. I still think he's on to some project... With this stuff, you can do multimedia streaming WITH BILLING)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (18:33)", "body": "much like you, Alexander, time, money and equipment are additional necessities..."}, {"response": 21, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (07:44)", "body": "... of which you stand better chances to get them than I do... Right now, you got a lot of the first, don't need a lot of the second and could perhaps borrow the latter. I mean, I don't have anybody sitting here who would let me put anything I like on his machines... At least not right now... Git to it! Do a plan! Develop a prototype and git it movin', show it around, and see if you could get partnerships going!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (15:48)", "body": "you got the same person sitting around as I do... I do live closer to him than you do, granted..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (20:59)", "body": "...also that you right now might have some more time to invest than I do? Listen, I've got some very specific idea. Mail me and I tell you."}, {"response": 24, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (05:17)", "body": "sorta...it looks like I might be cooking again, though..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (14:43)", "body": "only do it if it makes you happy..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (15:01)", "body": "How's our Realaudio server on access doing?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (15:22)", "body": "What do you mean, Terry?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (19:58)", "body": "I get sound every time I try..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (20:55)", "body": "i rarely try... .ok damn that return key!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (23:24)", "body": "aw, do I have to?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (15:20)", "body": "it's okay if you don't want to. i understand"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "What do you mean, what do I mean, Alexander?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (19:26)", "body": "Well, what does your reply asking \"How's our Realaudio server on access doing?\" mean? Is anybody (e.g. Wer) working on it, does something change,... (Perhaps it's just because I thought you of all people here ought to know the best, so... Aw, shucks, dunno... Something else - if I had a website at the spring - working at it as you know, with generous help from a certain W. -, how would I get it to play RealAudio files? Get them onto that machine \"access\" and put a link in my website to it?)"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (04:24)", "body": "That would be the best way to get your files to play. We have a realaudio server there but I'm not using it currently. We need to play with it."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "We'll get you an account on access.spring.net Alexander, if you don't already have one. Just email me with username and password and I'll set it up."}, {"response": 36, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (13:28)", "body": "William set me up with an telnet and ftp account, so I can get at http://www.spring.net/~aschuth . Does that work for access, too?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (15:24)", "body": "yup"}, {"response": 38, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (15:32)", "body": "Merci bien!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (15:37)", "body": "danke gratis"}, {"response": 40, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (15:56)", "body": "Erstaunlich!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (15:57)", "body": "gnutreaschion!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (17:32)", "body": "Oh, I didn't know that. I'm sorry. Had I known that, I wouldn't have ever made a single joke about that. Wirklich!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (18:14)", "body": "*laugh*"}, {"response": 44, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jun 23, 1999 (04:13)", "body": "(actually, nope...you want me to set you up the same way on access, Alexander?)"}, {"response": 45, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jun 23, 1999 (15:14)", "body": "oh lookie what I don't know!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jun 24, 1999 (08:33)", "body": "See, I said I shouldn't have made fun of it... Wer, I don't have anything to put there yet, but yeah, why not. Got the RealProducer now at last, gonna try and see if the bang of my old notebook is enough to produce content..."}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 24, 1999 (14:45)", "body": "Cool, what is your first project?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jun 24, 1999 (15:43)", "body": "First see if my lowtech is sufficient to work with standard amp line out signal, then git on to certain tapes we've discussed. I may not be able to do realtime webcasts, but I can try stuff nevertheless."}, {"response": 49, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jul  6, 1999 (16:03)", "body": "Please notice the article posted in a different topic of this conf concerning audio files, links to audio files - even on other servers - and MAJOR legal hustle : http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/web/42.9"}, {"response": 50, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 16, 1999 (03:44)", "body": "I'm lucky enough not to have to set up. I work weekends for a station that broadcasts on the Web, out of Hilo, Hawaii (KWXX-FM, 94.7 on air), on web at http://www.kwxx.com Can also be accessed through http://www.webradio.com I believe at the webradio site you have to go through the \"other\" format selection, then select \"ethnic.\" Our format is a mix of adult contemporary hits and Island music, which encompasses locally produced music, both ethnic Hawaiian and Hawaiian pop, Jawaiian (a Hawaiian reggae hybrid that often has ukuleles), and reggae, both Jamaican and U.K. I'm on Saturday 12 noon to 5 PM EST and Sunday 12 noon to 4 PM. It once was a career, now it's a pretty cool hobby that also puts a few bucks in the pocket."}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 18, 1999 (23:07)", "body": "Post something Saturday early as a reminder if you care to, I'd like a reminder to tune in!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (05:26)", "body": "I will but it will be really early because of the time difference when I leave home and on the mainland. I don't have an operational computer terminal in the studio--it crashed and burned. We were taking e-mails and requests long distance on a 486 and the museum piece retired itself. Don't expect a great deal of personality; my boss doesn't want it. But the music should be different than what you're used to. I need to get a shortwave receiver so I can pick up B 92 Radio Belgrade, It sounds fascinati g."}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (05:54)", "body": "John, post it the night before. That is what I do...because it is tomorrow everywhere else but here. That is why your and my computers will be the only ones talking at the end of Y2K - we are the last to get everything...*sigh*"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (05:55)", "body": "Oh, and I have a spare SW for you to use...."}, {"response": 55, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (08:18)", "body": "Per Terry, here is my reminder...I will be on air today and tomorrow at http://www.kwxx.com starting times 12 noon EDT 11 am CDT 10 am MDT 9 am PDT 6 am HST (Hawaii never goes on daylight savings time)"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (17:24)", "body": "I tried at 7am HST and it was not you on my house radio, and I could not get into the KWXX website and the http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/ kept telling me \"file not found\". John, where are you???"}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (17:42)", "body": "I IS John on my house radio...I just may call the station and see what is wrong with the link at Webradio. But, his golden tones are on the air as I wrilte this."}, {"response": 58, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:09)", "body": ""}, {"response": 59, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:13)", "body": "If you have trouble getting webradio audio, try clearing your cache. I was on at 6 AM Hawaii time, but apparently you had your dial somewhere else (as do I from time to time). I'll be there at 6 am tomorrow also, but Sunday show is only four hours opposed to Saturday's five."}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:13)", "body": "Well, that is as much as I heard from you on the internet this morning, and your kwxx.com link was dead. But, You sounded great on my little SW radio tuned to AM. What happened?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:16)", "body": "I can't speak for webradio. It's a mainland concern. But again, if problems, try cache clearing."}, {"response": 62, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:17)", "body": "Try our website direct, without going through webradio's site."}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:17)", "body": "OK, but that is not the problem. My cache is emptied (both disk and memory) regularly during the day, and I had no trouble accessing the web broadcast during the week from KWXX. Will try again tomorrow. Btw, I think I got the Drool off of the guys' Babe sites - I opened one for ladies to list their Male Babes."}, {"response": 64, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:19)", "body": "Gee doing it in drool isn't enough for you, is it?"}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:21)", "body": "Drool is a world of its own, and a lot of ladies are not comfortable in there. I just used a tiny corner of Babes. We won't make much noise...promise!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:25)", "body": "Drool has so many more entries than babes, I don't know if that dog will hunt!"}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:26)", "body": "I dumped both caches and tried KWXX.com directly. After a few moments I get a little box telling me the server must be down and to try later. Can you access it now?"}, {"response": 68, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "I could never access KWXX.com from home, but never had any trouble from Bytes and Bites. If the server is down, it will probably be down all weekend, as Chris Leonard is in Honolulu."}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:33)", "body": "Will try it later in the day. Thanks for telling me. This PC should be able to pick up everything on the net including lint..."}, {"response": 70, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (00:10)", "body": "John, I just tried again. Same thing...Netscape puts the name on the top of the window as though you were in, but document down show up, and the stoplight turns off. Nothing further happens. Get Chris on it. The lint is here but no KWXX.com!"}, {"response": 71, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (09:00)", "body": "I have the same problem, but he assures me that it is me and each time he calls up the home page, it pops right up for him. It also does the same for me at Bytes & Bites, but not here. I was able to hear the station on http://www.webradio.com/kwxx"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (15:45)", "body": "The above hotlink works. I spent the weekend listening to it and wondering what the Springizens were thinking of the local-ese which sometimes creeps intoi the spoken stuff. It is like listening to a whole nuther language sometimes. *lol* Too bad they can't hear the county \"workers\" talking!!!"}, {"response": 73, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (00:58)", "body": "John is filling in for a DJ who is away...listen to him and some lovely Hawaiian classics and popular music from 8pm till 10pm Austin time. (He comes on in two minutes!) Today!!!"}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (00:59)", "body": "..or is that until 11?!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (15:49)", "body": "What's the realaudio address?"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (20:07)", "body": "Is is not on RealAudio, it is on http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/ and he is on right as I post this for the final hour of this Saturday program."}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (15:58)", "body": "And the next scheduled program is ???"}, {"response": 78, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (00:52)", "body": "his usual Saturday and Sunday morning shows. Each and every, as far as i know..."}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (12:46)", "body": "Will you post the url again please sometime between now and Friday? And the exact time and dates!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:08)", "body": "will do, as soon as i get back into windows."}, {"response": 81, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:59)", "body": "Cool."}, {"response": 82, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  8, 1999 (22:00)", "body": "John Burnett's golden tones will be beamed into space tomorrow and Sunday. You can hear his net broadcast at http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/ starting times 12 noon EDT 11 am CDT 10 am MDT 9 am PDT 6 am HST (Hawaii never goes on daylight savings time)"}, {"response": 83, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct  9, 1999 (14:59)", "body": "I posted this on the Spring's main page."}, {"response": 84, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  9, 1999 (18:54)", "body": "Thanks for doing so (could not find it when I looked, but I will assume it is a problem with me or the Notre Dame game replaced it...That same information applies to tomorrow morning, as well."}, {"response": 85, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (04:44)", "body": "Just a little reminder that John Burnett holds forth on WebRadio tomorrow: http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/ starting times 12 noon EDT 11 am CDT 10 am MDT 9 am PDT 6 am HST (Hawaii never goes on daylight savings time)"}, {"response": 86, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (04:48)", "body": "I turned on Realaudio and listened to John's show while I cleaned up my garage Saturday morning and really enjoyed it. I liked the Hawaiian music, it was relaxing to be transported to the islands for a while and John has a great delivery. I'm going to listen to this show regularly on Saturday mornings. It was funny to hear about the boaters who arrived early, before they got the celebration ready. Really good music selection."}, {"response": 87, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (06:31)", "body": "Those darn canoe voyagers, screwing things up like that! Thanks for the kind words, Terry..."}, {"response": 88, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (14:51)", "body": "Your program exposed me to very interesting webradio.com, I believe that was the url? And then I heard this morning that they're having an ipo very soon. This looks like a well put tegether network of radio stations. Correct me on that url, if I missed it John."}, {"response": 89, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (15:06)", "body": "Marcia put up the url, so I'm sure it is correct. Did you hear what the price on the IPO is?"}, {"response": 90, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (16:00)", "body": "I think it's around $10-11. And it's coming up \"real soon\"; I just caught a bit on a morning news show. I'll look up the url when I get home for lunch today."}, {"response": 91, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (16:48)", "body": "url is http://www.webradio.com"}, {"response": 92, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 22, 1999 (21:49)", "body": "more precisely, it is http://www.webradio.com/kwxx"}, {"response": 93, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 23, 1999 (01:23)", "body": "Wow, that's fantastic...I posted the above in telnet and when I got to windows there it was all hot link blue and everything. Isn't this stuff neat? Anyway, John is on tomorrow morning per usual from 6am till they let him go ( which is 11am Texas time till whenever.) Lately, he has been doing double shifts or several more hours than usual..."}, {"response": 94, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 23, 1999 (02:19)", "body": "He has just told me he will most likely be on until Noon Hawaii time (5pm Texas time) or 2200 zulu."}, {"response": 95, "author": "dorothy", "date": "Sat, Oct 23, 1999 (02:31)", "body": "is that today or tomorrow (saturday)?"}, {"response": 96, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Oct 23, 1999 (04:14)", "body": "Hi, Dorothy. That will be Saturday. Thank you for asking."}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 23, 1999 (19:42)", "body": "John will also be on that URL on Sunday...John Dear, I am internet-listening to Penn State's game because our ABC afffilitate much prefers to show california stuff that a REAL game...BAH! HUMBUG!"}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (14:21)", "body": "Hi Dorothy, welcome on board!"}, {"response": 99, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (17:53)", "body": "Hello Dorothy! Welcome!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (19:24)", "body": "Where has she gone? I welcomed her elsewhere and nothing has been heard since. Cannot be that we were dining on garlic and did not offer her any?!"}, {"response": 101, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (19:30)", "body": "She'll be around. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 39, "subject": "Democracy Online Conference in Austin!", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 4, "subject": "wired on wired or tired?", "response_count": 4, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (16:33)", "body": "The first time I saw Wired magazine on the newstand, with it's phosphorescent , checkboard boarder and cutesy upper lower case name (WiReD) I thought, \"wow, a really hip, cool internet print publication.\" Since then, the look has remained the same and it has expanded on to the web. I still like wired but some of the novelty is worn off. I'm ontheir mailing list so I get a synopsis of what's hot in the current issue from time to time. Nicholas Negraponte's pontifications are classic (the last piece in the magazine every month). What' syour take? Are you tired of wired or are you wired?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (18:22)", "body": "Hohum. Tired of wired. I prefer Boardwatch BW"}, {"response": 3, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (21:02)", "body": "Bob, what's Boardwatch?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:11)", "body": "Not to steal his fire, but Boardwatch is the only magazine I absolutely must see very month. It's got allkinds of sysop stuff (from the providers viewpoint) and our boy Forrest has his own column. Great stuff. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 40, "subject": "Politics Online Conference in Austin Tomorrow", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 41, "subject": "Media coverage of WTC attack and the aftermath", "response_count": 28, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 24, 2001 (00:48)", "body": "The Guardian's apparently scooped U.S. media on details of the impending invasion of Afghanistan: http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,556716,00.html"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 24, 2001 (00:49)", "body": "According to The Guardian, a small British special forces team has entered Afghanistan and exchanged gunfire with Taliban forces: http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,556775,00.html"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct  3, 2001 (10:34)", "body": "Here's a web site, Re:constructions, that is an online resource and study guide examing the media coverage of the Sept. 11 events and aftermath, put together by people connected with the new MIT Comparative Media Studies Program. http://web.mit.edu/cms/reconstructions/"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct  6, 2001 (01:48)", "body": "msnbc.com Where the plot was hatched Bin Laden came to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets but found the country was the perfect location for his training camps The story of the terror attack on America begins in Afghanistan. Watch this report from NBC's Ron Allen. By Ron Allen NBC NEWS PESHAWAR, Pakistan, Oct. 5 \ufffd Looking at the beginning of the terrorist plot against America, one starts with the idea of the horrific attack. Where was it born? That question leads to a country in the cross-hairs, Afghanistan, where the plot was hatched ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS, deep inside Afghanistan, the plot against America was hatched. And it is in Peshawar that a trail of evidence leads to bin Laden. Two days before the attack, in a call to his mother in Syria, bin Laden told her something \ufffdbig\ufffd would happen. Then reports say bin Laden evacuated his camps in Afghanistan days before the attacks, and congratulatory calls were intercepted between his operatives in the days that followed. It is in Peshawar, Pakistan, just 20 miles from the Afghan border, where some of bin Laden\ufffds most ardent supporters are found. \ufffdIf they go after him without showing any credible evidence,\ufffd says journalist Hamid Mir, \ufffda dead Osama will become more dangerous for the Americans than a live Osama.\ufffd An outcast among his 52 brothers and sisters, bin Laden moved to Peshawar in 1984 to help the mujahadeen rebels fight their holy war against the Soviets. The multi-millionaire bin Laden poured his wealth into local charities, using his family\ufffds Saudi construction business to build tunnels, bunkers and roads to help the war effort. While bin Laden was waging war against the Soviets, he began to see Afghanistan as the perfect place to set up training camps and recruit new fighters in the first steps toward assembling a network of terror \ufffd a terror network targeted at America. Why? Bin Laden turned on America during the Gulf War, when U.S. troops went to the sacred Muslim soil of Saudi Arabia. America\ufffds continued support for Israel has only increased his outrage. His message of hatred of America and Jews resonates in religious schools in Peshawar and with thousands of fighters who have come to his Afghan training camps to join his holy war. \ufffdThey were given training, they were provided with material, they were provided weapons,\ufffd says former Pakistani legislator Lateef Afridi. \ufffdAfghanistan in due course of time became the paradise of terrorists.\ufffd Meanwile, evidence mounts against the man the CIA calls, \ufffdThe Manager,\ufffd for the way he applies his skills and money to the cold business of terrorism. Now in his mountain hideaway, bin Laden prepares himself and his closest followers for an American attack."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  6, 2001 (22:09)", "body": "Terry, the above comment on OBL planning his next attack does not surprise me. Did anyone see the MSNBC footage on how the Taliban treats women? Absolutely appalling!!! If they have another generation of children it will surely be by rape."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct  8, 2001 (15:17)", "body": "Here's the text of today's Bin Laden video release: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1585000/1585636.stm"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (11:53)", "body": "The PBS newshour is doing a story on them today: ******************************************* * MEDIA WATCH ALERT * An E-mail Service of The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer * and the Online NewsHour ******************************************* October 8, 2001 *WINDOW ON THE WAR Qatar-based Al-Jazeera has recently garnered international attention as one of the only broadcast outlets with an eye on the action in Afghanistan. Yesterday, Al-Jazeera provided U.S. news networks with a rare taped statement by suspected terrorist Osama bin Laden, and it has broadcast statements by U.S. and British leaders to its Arab audience. Tonight, media correspondent Terence Smith examines Al-Jazeera's growing role as a conduit between the Western and Arab worlds. Visit http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media after 9 pm Eastern time for more information on this segment."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (20:32)", "body": "Ventura fears he, Mall and Dome are terrorist targets BY JIM RAGSDALE Pioneer Press Gov. Jesse Ventura said Wednesday the decision to withhold information about his public schedule from the media is due to a concern that he could be a target of terrorism. ======= http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/mtc_docs/157309.htm"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (22:01)", "body": "Probably wise! I'm sure they know he was a Navy Seal at one time!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (10:09)", "body": "http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011012/ts/attack_dc_403.html White House aides said Bush has been startled by the depth of hatred among Muslim protesters for America following air raids on Afghanistan in response to the Sept. 11 attacks. from a Reuters article"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (10:12)", "body": "Myths of American misdeeds The view that the US brought the attacks on itself weakens the fight against terror, says Steven Simon and Daniel Benjamin Published: October 1 2001 20:09 | Last Updated: October 1 2001 20:15 As the US begins a long, intense struggle against Osama bin Laden and his network, some people claim that the US is the author of its own misfortune. Their arguments are founded on myths about US misdeeds in the world. At a moment when the US must be united at home, supported by its allies and clearly understood in the world, these myths must be laid to rest. The first is that the attacks of September 11 would never have occurred if the US had been putting pressure on Israel to make concessions to the Palestinians. This claim mistakenly transforms Mr bin Laden's jihad into an extension of the Arab-Israeli conflict. In fact, over the last decade Mr bin Laden has shown little interest in the dynamics of Palestinian-Israeli relations. His overriding focus has been on the US and its military presence on the Arabian peninsula - in his view, the most appalling manifestation of the intrusion of the west into the sacred realm of Islam. This is the central grievance that provides the justification for his call to \"kill Americans and their allies - civilian and military - in any countries in which it is possible\". Mr bin Laden wishes to see the west so exhausted and demoralised by carnage that it withdraws to northern Europe and North America. Israel is just one of many places where US interests and the west in general can be attacked. Where precisely Israel draws its borders with Palestine is irrelevant for Mr bin Laden to whom the very existence of a Jewish state in the Middle East is an unholy affront. Those who contend that America's failure to force Israeli concessions lies at the root of Mr bin Laden's rage have much to explain. Why did those associated with Mr bin Laden mount attacks against the US in the years that the Oslo process was being implemented? Why does Mr bin Laden claim credit for murdering Americans in Somalia in 1993 if the Palestinian cause is his motivation? The irony is that proponents of the myth that the Arab-Israeli conflict is a central cause of the September 11 attacks are tarring the Palestinian cause with mass murder. The US must continue to work for a just peace in the Middle East but not because of Mr bin Laden. The second myth is that Mr bin Laden's terrorism is driven by poverty. According to this claim, economic exploitation by outsiders and corruption at home fuel this terrorism; terrorism would fade away with a massive programme of assistance. Without a doubt, the economic stagnation and privation in much of the Islamic world have bred a powerful discontent. This, in turn, helps explain Mr bin Laden's appeal to the discontented in countries from northern Africa to Indonesia. It also gives some direction for a western effort to dry up support for Mr bin Laden's followers. But poverty is not the motor behind murder on this apocalyptic scale. The World Trade Center conspirators themselves give the lie to this myth. They came not from the hovels of Gaza from but the comfort of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The ringleader was the son of an Egyptian lawyer. Like the radical Islamists of Egypt in the 1970s and 1980s, they came predominantly from the professional middle class. In the US, they lived comfortably, paid for expensive flight training and had money to spare. The uncomfortable truth is that these attacks were motivated by a violent religious sensibility, not a desire to help the poor of Islam. The third myth is that the US helped create Mr bin Laden through its involvement in the Afghanistan war. This myth has become a favourite of European and Middle Eastern commentators who seek to justify their own anti-Americanism. They argue that the US not only made Mr bin Laden a formidable figure among radical Islamists but also lit the fuse of militant Islam that now haunts us. It is true that Afghanistan has been a crucible for extremism. But blaming this on the US ignores the fact that it was the Soviet Union that invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and, through a puppet regime, brutalised its people beyond recognition. The US would have been a barely observable presence in Afghanistan even at the height of the war and Mr bin Laden probably never met a US agent, let alone got recruited by the CIA. The US and the Mujahideen did share important objectives in Afghanistan. But what sparked Mr bin Laden's campaign against the US was his discovery, on returning from his war against one infidel army, that yet another was \"occupying\" the cradle of Islam with the blessing of its Saudi custodians. These myths may make some feel better about their moral equivocation in the face of the suffering in New York. If so, they will prove politically debilitating in the long term. But by enabling believers to deny the undeniable threat Mr bin Laden poses, these myths undermine the c"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (10:18)", "body": "Meet Biff Bin Laden. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1597000/1597981.stm (son of world's most wanted man)"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (10:19)", "body": "Two networks are not airing the Bin Laden tape. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20011013/us/attacks_media_1.html"}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (10:21)", "body": "The media coverage of the anthrax situation has gone way overboard. Are our media outlets becoming the whipping boys of the terrorists, carrying out their dictates? It would seem so from the things we are seeing over, and over and over and . . ."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (10:22)", "body": "The truth about cipro and anthrax. http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/20011012.atc.12.ram NBC's Dr. Bob Arnot says we're getting way to panicked over this anthrax thing, it's a common disease that's very hard to get and it's not contagious."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (23:37)", "body": "Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 14:30:06 -0400 From: \"Ivo Skoric\" To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net Subject: ivogram: media watch x4 From: \"Ivo Skoric\" Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:08:46 -0400 Subject: Media Watch Prompted by the US mainstream electronic media failure to report the anti- war protest from Times Square, New York, on October 7, I decided to start a Media-Watch project, kind of like what we have seen done by the dozen of Western NGO-s with Croatian, Bosnian and Serbian media during the wars of Yugoslav succession. There it was widely perceived that the state-owned mainstream electronic media were used by nationalist governments to manufacture the consent for war. In the words of Noam Chomsky, here in the U.S. the media are used in pretty much the same way right now. On Monday, the second day of the air-strikes against Taliban positions in Afghanistan, I watched news from three major European sources to compare them to the major American TV networks. Here are my findings: Deutsche Welle gave a lot of space to considerations about fate of the aid workers still held prisoners by Taliban in Afghanistan. They went all but unmentioned on American TV on Monday (they were mentioned on Tuesday). Deutsche Welle also noted that among the first casualties of the bombing were aid agencies vital for survival of Afghanistan civilians: UNICEF and UNHCR buildings were burned in Queta by protesters following the first day of bombing. French TV went further, interviewing the doctor working with Medecins Sans Frontieres, who expressed doubts about the real value of air drops, calling them merely a useful propaganda tool. The anchor then went on to mock American networks for showing endless footage of nightly skies, supposedly, over Kabul, where not much could be seen, since they look, indeed, quite the same like nightly skies over Bagdad or over Belgrade. BBC, besides showing the disturbing footage from protests in Queta a day ahead from its American colleagues, has also shown the (even more disturbing) footage of burning Gaza strip, which American colleagues yet have to gain the courage to show. We haven't yet seen what exactly did American/British attacks destroyed in Afghanistan - the satellite photos did show the targets, but they didn't look to an average viewer as damaged as the UNICEF building in Queta did. The BBC reporting from Pakistan, Egypt and Gaza, while not explicitly saying so, gave an intelligent viewer the opportunity to imply that the main casualty of the American/British bombing so far was the stability in the Arab world. It is also worth to note that buildings in Gaza were not set aflame by Israelis. They were set aflame by Palestinian protesters and by the PLO police that cracked down on them. In apparent violation of their own religious law that prohibits worshiping images, young Arab protesters in all places carried pictures of Osama Bin Laden, their new messiah. Yasser Arafat, on the other hand, wants to seize the opportunity - At what other time could anybody imagine Syria getting a seat at the UN Security Council? Over Shimon Peres dead body, maybe. - and get a more serious commitment of the US to the Palestinian State. Palestinians carrying pictures of Osama Bin Laden around are not exactly helpful in that process. With each new day of bombing Afghanistan, one more Arab state is a step closer to civil war. The problem with Arab world is demographic and political. And it most certainly won't be helped with war. Arab countries are full of young people. When half of the population is under 30, it is usually easier to imagine revolutions, protests and violent upheavals. When half of the population is under 20, some sort of change simply MUST happen. It is impossible to believe that the old order may survive. Particularly, if it is a corrupt, authoritarian order with no mandate of the people. Is there any democracy in the Arab world, except for Israel, which is not really an Arab state? No. Arab states are either former Soviet clients like Libya, Iraq and Syria - lead by Soviet style totalitarian regimes, or they are military dictatorships like Pakistan, Egypt or Algeria, or they are anachronistic feudal monarchies like Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Jordan, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrein, Yemen, U.A.E. Iran is not an Arab state, but it is geographically a part of the Arab world (just like Israel and it is indeed the newest political regime in the region - but, while it does show some promise, it is still an autocratic theocracy, where the Council of Guardians - clerics appointed by the Supreme Leader - has a veto power over the democratically elected president and parliamentarians. Maybe we should start asking ourselves why in the Arab world there is not a single state by the people and for the people. And whether does the quest for the cheap oil has anything to do with floating corrupt autocratic states way past their expiration date. In which case it would be expected that oppressed population there hates those who "}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (00:11)", "body": "http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,574918,00.html Particularly the stuff about Saudi Arabia, the country whose dictatorship we've propped up for decades: \"\"It's unbelievable how the feeling here has changed from sympathy to anger in such a short time,\" a Riyadh-based westerner quoted by Reuters said yesterday. Another resident compared the mood there to that of Iran before the overthrow of the Shah.\" \"US feeling was expressed in a powerful editorial in Sunday's New York Times, which described Saudi behaviour as \"malignant\" and said the \"deeply cynical\" bargain between the countries, which for decades had offered American protection for the regime in return for an uninterrupted flow of oil, was now \"untenable\". \"David Wurmser, director of Middle East studies at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, said yesterday: \"The US's entire foreign policy structure in the region has been anchored in the strategic relationship with Saudi Arabia. If everything we're hearing is true, then we're facing a total meltdown. \"\"The whole war as currently conceived would have to be reconsidered, because Pakistan won't hold if Saudi support starts collapsing.\"\""}, {"response": 18, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Mon, Oct 22, 2001 (01:51)", "body": "Mess.#8 (Terry): Ventura fears he, Mall and Dome are terrorist targetsBY JIM RAGSDALE Pioneer Press Gov. Jesse Ventura said Wednesday the decision to withhold informationabout his public schedule from the media is due to a concern that he couldbe a target of terrorism. ******************************************************** A humorous viewpoint (NY Times): October 19, 2001 A Governor Works in Mysterious Ways By GARRISON KEILLOR ST. PAUL -- Here in Minnesota, our governor has gone under cover, so far as we can figure out. The governor \ufffd who I will refer to as Larry so as to throw terrorists off the trail \ufffd had a fit in New York recently when he flew there for a photo op at Ground Zero, a trip paid for by ABC-TV, which then got exclusive rights to film the governor's grief and concern. When a few Minnesota reporters questioned him on these arrangements, Larry said he would never speak to any of them ever again. Later, he amended this to say that he would speak to some of them but never with tape recorders present. Then Larry announced that his schedule of public appearances would be kept secret because he \ufffd along with the Mall of America and the Humphrey Metrodome and perhaps the statue of Paul Bunyan in Bemidji and the famous Lift Bridge in Duluth \ufffd might be high on the terrorists' list of targets. Now he has amended that to say that his press secretary will inform some of the press of what the governor is doing, but this information cannot be disseminated to the general public. The governor thus achieves four public announcements in less than a week without ever having actually done something. The stealth governor is an innovation in politics, and Larry is the one who can make it work. He was elected to the post, after a career as a pro rassler, because he spoke plainly and plenty of people are tired of the political boilerplate. His slogan was \"Retaliate in '98,\" which seemed to promise something new. Since his election, however, he has taken a sharp right turn away from all that and become a pretty good, quiet caretaker governor. At hands-off governance, Larry is as capable as you or I. The problem with being a caretaker is that you have very little to show for it, no large ideas to proclaim, no triumphs to celebrate, no ribbons to cut. You're just a guy sitting in a boat in calm water and not tipping it over. After a while, people's attention wanders. Disappearance is a great way to attract attention, to become the Garbo of governors, the Pynchon politician. It is no great thing to stand in the governor's reception room at the state Capitol and shake hands with a delegation of 4-H'ers from Kandiyohi County. It raises the occasion to a heroic level to welcome them secretly, with the governor surrounded by highway patrolmen ready to search the 4-H'ers for pitchforks. Thus does a Midwestern governor of modest talent become part of America's war against terrorism. Before Larry, governors of Minnesota didn't bother with security. They traveled around in a midsize car, accompanied by some young staff person to spare the Honorable the embarrassment of having to drive around and around looking for a parking space. A governor used to be a guy you'd see at University of Minnesota basketball games and walk up and say \"hi\" to at halftime. When Larry ascended into office, he demanded a security detail, with round-the-clock service. And now he has introduced the idea of semi-secret public appearances. Occasionally he may show up somewhere, but suddenly, like the Masked Man of the Plains. The logical next step for him is to leave town for the duration of the war and not tell anybody. Perhaps he already has. Perhaps Larry even now is hunkered deep in a Minuteman silo in North Dakota, sitting at a control console in front of an electronic map of all 87 counties of Minnesota, running state government via a secure telephone, secret couriers disguised as seed salesmen bringing him state papers concealed in burlap bags. We do not know. While he's there, he could let his hair grow back and lose a few pounds so as to lessen his visibility and be able to return home for the holidays. I wish I knew where he is so I could tell him. Garrison Keillor is host of \"Prairie Home Companion\" and author, most recently, of \"Lake Wobegon Summer 1956.\""}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 15, 2001 (08:15)", "body": "U.S. Bombs Hit Kabul TV Station http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25014-2001Nov13.html"}, {"response": 20, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sat, Dec 29, 2001 (15:20)", "body": "http://www.spj.org/quill_issue.asp?ref=233 Asleep at the switch Journalism\ufffds failure to track Osama bin Laden It has become fashionable in the weeks since Sept. 11 (\ufffdNine-Eleven\ufffd in the clipped cadences of cable news-speak) to discuss the monstrous failure of U.S. intelligence that led, in part, to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The phrase \ufffdasleep at the switch\ufffd has become a mantra used to describe the inability of the FBI, the CIA, and the Department of Defense to catch Osama bin Laden before his Al Qaeda organization perpetrated their deadly deeds. But consider this: On June 23, the Reuters news agency distributed a report headlined \ufffdBin Laden Fighters Plan anti-US attack.\ufffd The lead: \ufffdFollowers of exiled Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden are planning a major attack on U.S. and Israeli interests.\ufffd Two days later, it was United Press International\ufffds turn to spread the alarming news. In a dispatch dated June 25, the agency informed its subscribers that \ufffdSaudi dissident Osama bin Laden is planning a terrorist attack against the United States.\ufffd The following day, another UPI report (\ufffdBin Laden Forms New Jihadi Group\ufffd) described the formalization of ties between bin Laden\ufffds Al Qaeda and the Egyptian branch of Islamic Jihad. Unless you\ufffdre a maven of the Reuters and UPI wire feeds, the chances are that you didn\ufffdt see any of those reports. A search of the country\ufffds major newspaper and broadcast network Web sites reveals that barely any considered the stories worthy of publication. That\ufffds hardly surprising. At the time, the news industry was gorging itself on the disappearance of Washington intern Chandra Levy, the alleged drinking habits of Presidential daughter Jenna Bush and the latest 100-point drop by the Dow. Let the record show that, in the context of the U.S. media before Sept. 11, news of bin Laden\ufffds plans to launch an attack against American citizens didn\ufffdt even make it into \ufffdNews in Brief.\ufffd When the history of U.S. journalism at the turn of the century is written, it is to be hoped that the summer of 2001 will be noted as the profession\ufffds historic low point. Ten years after the fall of the Soviet Union, news coverage of events overseas had dwindled to a point where the world\ufffds leading terrorist mastermind didn\ufffdt warrant a mention on the nightly news \ufffd even when he was directly threatening American citizens. For the best part of a decade, the country\ufffds broadcast networks in particular sought to marginalize international news. NBC, CBS and ABC closed costly overseas bureaus, fired staff specializing in global affairs and eagerly embraced a domestically focused news agenda. They justified their actions by opportunistically blaming the American public for a lack of interest in global affairs. In April 1997, CBS News President Andrew Heyward told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that \ufffdit\ufffds just a fact of television ratings life that almost without exception it\ufffds very difficult to score a number with international news.\ufffd NBC News Vice President Bill Wheatley told the same newspaper that \ufffda lot of foreign news after the Cold War seemed to be less vital ... more complicated, less directly linked to many Americans. How do you cover the former Soviet Union and make sense of it?\ufffd Today, of course, the networks\ufffd infatuation with domestic news has come to a screeching halt. Suddenly, \ufffdOsama bin Laden\ufffd doesn\ufffdt seem such a hard name to pronounce, \ufffdAl Qaeda\ufffd no longer appears to be an alien concept, and the networks have found a way of covering Afghanistan. And yet, the manner in which many of them have chosen to cover this epoch-changing story reflects the deep crisis provoked by the cutbacks they made in their global resources over the past decade. The first war to be covered by three competing, round-the-clock news networks is being reported by correspondents who \ufffd for the most part \ufffd are inarticulate in the language of international affairs and global diplomacy. Consider the output of MSNBC, the 24-hour news channel operated by NBC News. Since Sept. 11, the network\ufffds Ashleigh Banfield has come to define the new style of global crisis coverage. At 33, the former local news anchor from Dallas is the rising star of network news, charged with helping her network reach increasing numbers of younger viewers. Her first act upon arriving in Islamabad was to change her hair color from blonde to brown, then purchase a seemingly endless supply of Pakistani scarves and robes. She told The New York Times that she\ufffdd done this to remain \ufffdunder the radar\ufffd in Pakistan and proceeded to file a large number of reports in which bemused citizens of Islamabad watched Banfield \ufffd very much \ufffdabove the radar\ufffd at this point \ufffd touring their city with a camera team in tow. \ufffdThese people are very poor\ufffd she informed viewers in hushed tones during one report, gesticulating at a group of Pakistani homeless behind her. MSNBC has never satisfactorily explained why Banfield dyed her hair to stay \ufffdunder the radar.\ufffd Reporters Amy Kellog"}, {"response": 21, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sat, Dec 29, 2001 (15:26)", "body": "http://www.cjr.org/year/01/6/evans.asp Columbia Journalism Review WHAT WE KNEW: WARNING GIVEN...STORY MISSED How a Report on Terrorism Flew Under the Radar BY HAROLD EVANS We were warned. Some of the best minds in the United States attempted to alert the nation that, without a new emphasis on homeland security and attention to terrorism, \"Americans will likely die on American soil, possibly in large numbers\" as the result of terrorist attacks. The first warning came in September 1999, when former Senators Gary Hart and Warren Rudman, co-chairs, used those words in the first of three documents from an entity called the United States Commission on National Security, created during a rare moment of agreement between President Clinton and House speaker Newt Gingrich. Then, seven months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the commission re-emphasized its warning, this time with a detailed agenda for action to make America safer from terrorism. The report was scary but it was also constructive and authoritative. And it is fair to say that most Americans never heard of it until after the attacks. What happened? On January 31, Hart and Rudman looked with satisfaction on the television cameras and print reporters assembled in the Mansfield Room of the United States Senate. They were there to present the commission's final report of 150 pages. It was called Road Map for National Security: Imperative for Change, and was signed by their twelve fellow commissioners, who represented the kind of blue-ribbon braintrust Washington is so good at putting together (see box). Over a three-year period, the wise men had visited twenty-five countries and consulted more than a hundred experts. Hart and Rudman had as their executive director the one-time fighter pilot, Charles (Chuck) Boyd, the only graduate of the Hanoi Hilton to make four-star general. They and their staffs went to great lengths to alert the press in advance to the gravity of the commissioners' findings. \"Hell,\" says Rudman, \"it was the first comprehensive rethinking of national security since Harry Truman in 1947.\" The conclusions were startling: \"States, terrorists, and other disaffected groups will acquire weapons of mass destruction, and some will use them. Americans will likely die on American soil, possibly in large numbers.\" The commission also explored many of the underlying factors. Hart told me: \"We got a terrific sense of the resentment building against the U.S. as a bully, which alarmed us.\" The report was a devastating indictment of the \"fragmented and inadequate\" structures and strategies already in place to prevent, and then respond to, the attacks on U.S. cities, which the commissioners predicted. Hart specifically mentioned the lack of preparation for \"a weapon of mass destruction in a high-rise building.\" But the report was not simply alarmist. It was unusually constructive, avoiding grandiose language for a step-by-step blueprint of what urgently needed to be done to create a National Homeland Security Agency, revive the frontline public services, and pull together the forty discrete official bodies with responsibility for national security. \"We need orders-of-magnitude improvements in planning, coordination, and exercise,\" the report concluded. \"Any reorganization must be mindful of the scale of the scenarios we envisage and the enormity of their consequences.\" They urged that, since our borders are so porous, the uniformed services of the Customs Service, the Border Patrol, and the Coast Guard should report to a new National Homeland Security Agency; that homeland security should become a priority mission for the National Guard; that human intelligence sources on terrorism should be recruited as a priority. The writers also had a broad vision: \"A world amenable to American interests and values will not come into being by itself. Much of the world will resent and oppose us, if not for the simple fact of our preeminence, then for the fact that others often perceive the United States as exercising its power with arrogance and self-absorption.\" A number of the commissioners visited the editorial boards of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journ l, and The Washington Post before they released their report. They brought with them a press kit containing a crisp executive summary of the report. Press conferences and private briefings were all to little avail. Network television news ignored the report; so did the serious evening news on public television. Only CNN did it justice with a full discussion. The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal did not carry a line, either of the report or the press conference. Boyd told me: \"I won't ever forget that day in Senate Room 207.\" He watched in disbelief as the Times reporter left before the presentation was over, saying it was not much of a story. Coverage was excellent in The Washington Post and Los Angeles Times, with a smattering of good stories in USA Today, and the sma"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 29, 2001 (22:36)", "body": "Great articles, Suzee! Thanks"}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 30, 2001 (05:41)", "body": "Geraldo Rivera is offering to resign from Fox News. If, that is, a panel of media analysts decides he did anything unethical in Afghanistan. Which, he insists, is ridiculous. Rivera acknowledges that he made an \"honest mistake\" by saying he was at a \"friendly fire\" incident in which three American soldiers were killed in a U.S. bombing raid. He was hundreds of miles away, near what he maintains was a second such incident in which two or three Afghan opposition fighters were killed. Rivera denounces the Baltimore Sun television writer who reported the mistake, saying: \"The whole basic premise that I lied or was dishonest is absurd on its face, and were it any other reporter, would not even pass the laugh test. This is the most false, hideously absurd allegation I've ever had leveled against me.\" from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19486-2001Dec23.html"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan  4, 2002 (16:48)", "body": "Hiding, on the Run, or Dead: 'No Comment' By Al Kamen Friday, January 4, 2002; Page A25 And now, a new phrase government spokesmen have developed to replace the discredited and clearly inferior Nixon-era term \"inoperative.\" The new term is \"not particularly useful.\" It was employed to great effect Wednesday by Pentagon public affairs chief Victoria Clarke to stifle questions about alleged dezinformatzia by Pentagon folks. Best we can tell, reporters asked Adm. Craig Quigley on Monday about Marines boarding helicopters and leaving Kandahar to go after Mullah Omar. There were even pictures and witnesses of U.S. troop movements. But Quigley was quoted as saying: \"There were no Marines in [helicopters]. No Marines left Kandahar today.\" Well, it's unclear, but it may be that the first batch that left Kandahar in the choppers were Army Special Forces types, not Marines. And it turns out that, when he was asked, Quigley didn't know the Marines were getting ready to launch. But at Wednesday's briefing, Fox-TV's David Shuster asked Clarke: \"Was Admiral Quigley misinformed? Was he lied to? And how do you explain all of that?\" No problem. \"You know,\" Clarke said, \"I don't think it's particularly useful to go over everything over the last couple of days.\" She then moved quickly to discuss freezing terrorists' assets and humanitarian relief. This is most excellent. First, unlike \"inoperative,\" which evokes an earlier miscue, \"not particularly useful\" addresses only the question. Also, it has the virtue of burden-shifting, putting the onus on the questioner for asking for useless information -- as determined by the government. You can even try this at home: \"Now, honey, I don't think it's particularly useful to ask me where I was last night.\" Or maybe on the road: \"Well, officer, I don't think it's particularly useful to ask me about my drinking habits.\" Yesterday, Shuster tried again, but Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, staying on offense, told reporters it would be \"improper\" to suggest the confusion surrounding the deployments was intentional. Quite so. The government would never try to confuse the press. As Groucho said: \"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?\" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59711-2002Jan3.html"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan  9, 2002 (15:38)", "body": "Meanwhile, in Hollywood: TV Starts Scripting Sept. 11 The first steps to dramatize the events of Sept. 11 as TV movies have begun, with CBS planning a project that would document in real time behind-the-scenes developments on the ground that paralleled the flight of United Airlines Flight 93--the plane that crashed in rural Pennsylvania. [...] At least two other TV movie projects based on the Sept. 11 attacks are in development... http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-TV-X!ArticleDetail-49683,00.html"}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jan  9, 2002 (19:42)", "body": "that is not right. if they canx tv shows that even suggested terror and aircraft and twin towers, why on earth would they rehash the whole thing in the movies."}, {"response": 27, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Tue, Mar 19, 2002 (04:51)", "body": "Hi all I agree, Wolfie. I thought this would be far too soon. I mean many families are still struggling to come to grips with the enormity of the evil perpertrated. It would just reopen wounds not fully repaired. Rob"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 19, 2002 (14:32)", "body": "FAR too soon! Perhaps a generation too early to delve in depth into the causes and results. It deserves better treatment than Hollywood sensationalists will do for it. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 42, "subject": "media coverage of the War in Iraq and the reconstruction", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 2003 (03:38)", "body": "Let's start with those panoramic views: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia//041103-12p.htm These were done by the Washington Posts Travis Fox."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 2003 (03:41)", "body": "If you want to see a dynamic map of where the embedded journalists are in Iraq, try this poynter.org site: http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=27071 You can find a journalist on the map, click on their symbol and get their latest dispatches via a google search."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 2003 (03:47)", "body": "Another very decent compilation of Iraq War journalist resources: http://www.journaliststoolbox.com/newswriting/iraq.html"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 2003 (03:59)", "body": "Former Adversaries Join to Revive Neighborhood By Michael Slackman, Times Staff Writer BAGHDAD -- There was no electricity, no health care, no open shops, no sewage system, no police and no one to turn to for help. The people were scared, hungry and tired, and many children were falling ill. So religious leaders stepped in. From loudspeakers mounted atop mosques in the low-income west Baghdad neighborhood known as Tobchi, sheiks and imams sent out a call, not to prayer, but to work. They called on doctors, electricians, police, engineers, shopkeepers and laborers to help their community get back to life. By Monday, many had come forward. Sunni and Shiite. Agents of Saddam Hussein's regime and victims of its repression. If there is hope for a bright future in this city, still convulsing from the effects of war, a model might be this neighborhood of simple concrete apartment buildings and working-class people less than a mile from the Tigris River. \"There are no Arabs, no Kurds, no Sunni, no Shia,\" said Sheik Mohammed Bakr Basri, 31, one of the organizers of the back-to-work campaign. \"After Saddam we will all be united. The regime tried to divide us.\" Almost from the moment Hussein's government fell, this city of about 5 million people became unhinged with widespread looting, chaos and fear. People were paralyzed, and no one went to work. But there was no suggestion that the Iraqis bore any responsibility for what was happening on their streets. They blamed the U.S. for the upheaval and expected Americans to repair the damage. That attitude has begun to change in ways that are visible in many parts of the city, but especially in Tobchi, a neighborhood formally known as Al Salam. It was seen up in a cherry picker Monday, where two residents, one Sunni and the other Shiite, worked together to repair power lines. It was evident in a health clinic where a physician and a dentist volunteered to treat their neighbors. And it was there in the piles of looted goods that had been turned over to Sunni and Shiite mosques by residents who experienced a change of heart. \"Saddam confiscated our capabilities and possibilities,\" said Sheik Mohammed Taqi, 27, a neighborhood Shiite religious leader. \"After Saddam, brotherhood has been revived between the people.\" More: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/inside/la-war-tobchi15apr15,1,24458.story?coll=la%2Dhome%2Dheadlines"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 2003 (04:28)", "body": "http://www.back-to-iraq.com/archives/000365.php This an amazing web journal of a couple of journalists who have just landed in Syria. \"The Pitch Hi there! Thanks for stopping in. I'm Christopher Allbritton, former AP and New York Daily News reporter. Last summer I went stumbling around Iraqi Kurdistan, the northern part of Iraq outside Saddam's direct control, looking for stories. (Some might call it \"looking for trouble.\") Well, I've made it back. With the support of thousands of readers, I've raised more than $10,000 for this trip. \""}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov  3, 2003 (13:29)", "body": "US apology paves way for Iranian pistachios, carpets by Scott Peterson They were words that Iranians have long waited to hear from American officials, and they sounded very much like an apology. In an American initiative to boost the chances of Iran-US d\ufffdtente after decades of estrangement - and after elections in Iran last month that brought two decades of conservative control in parliament to an end - sanctions were lifted last week against Iranian carpets, pistachios, and caviar. But far more significant, Iranians say, is US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's attention, for the first time, to historical grievances of American meddling in Iran. \"In the Iranian psyche, these issues are far more important than sanctions, so this will have a great impact,\" says Nasser Hadian-Jazy at the University of Tehran. He compares their importance in Iran with the days of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that few Americans can forget: the hostage-taking of US diplomats for 444 days. Despite certain opposition from hard-line clerics, who still consider the US the \"Great Satan,\" this apology is \"good enough to bring down psychological and symbolic barriers to improve relations,\" he says. Though the US still accuses Iran of what it calls \"objectionable\" policies of supporting terrorism, opposing the Mideast peace process, and pursuing nuclear weapons, Dr. Albright also struck a contrite chord that few in Iran thought possible. A CIA-backed coup in 1953, Albright said, was \"clearly a setback\" for Iran that partly explains continued resentment. \"Sustained\" US backing of the regime of the Shah, which \"brutally repressed dissent,\" didn't help either. American backing of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, she added, has proved \"regrettably shortsighted,\" and the US \"must bear its fair share of responsibility\" for the US-Iran hostility. More: http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/03/24/p9s2.htm media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 43, "subject": "Media coverage of politics", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 27, 2005 (02:38)", "body": "President Bush ordered his Cabinet secretaries yesterday not to hire columnists to promote their agendas after disclosure that a second writer was paid to research an administration initiative. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/01/27/bush_calls_a_halt_to_paying_columnists_for_pr media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 44, "subject": "media coverage of Hurricane Katrina and the Fall of New Orleans", "response_count": 75, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (08:54)", "body": "Flood-control funds short of requests By Andrew Martin and Andrew Zajac WASHINGTON -- Despite continuous warnings that a catastrophic hurricane could hit New Orleans, the Bush administration and Congress in recent years have repeatedly denied full funding for hurricane preparation and flood control. That has delayed construction of levees around the city and stymied an ambitious project to improve drainage in New Orleans' neighborhoods. For instance, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers requested $27 million for this fiscal year to pay for hurricane-protection projects around Lake Pontchartrain. The Bush administration countered with $3.9 million, and Congress eventually provided $5.7 million, according to figures provided by the office of U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.). Because of the shortfalls, which were caused in part by the rising costs of the war in Iraq, the corps delayed seven contracts that included enlarging the levees, according to corps documents. More: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509010170sep01,1,5853346.story"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (08:57)", "body": "http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ also at http://mgno.com/ is a newsy blog from a guy who, to this day, remains on the scene in New Orleans from his perch in a downtown office building. Well supplied by a generator, he is cranking out voluminous reports on a daily basis and he has a webcam showing his office. He was getting hugs from a woman sharing his chair when I flipped it on the other night. The Internet stays alive in his building in the midst of all the chaos."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (08:58)", "body": "From former NYT editor Howell Raines: the hurricane blew away entire towns in coastal Mississippi is very much his father's son. George H.W. Bush couldn't quite connect to the victims of Hurricane Andrew, nor did he mind being photographed tooling his golf cart around Kennebunkport while American troops died in the first Iraq war. After preemptively declaring a state of emergency, the younger Bush seemed equally determined to show his successors how to vacation through an apocalypse. On Tuesday, he urged people to stay where they were, even if their evacuation residence might be the leaking-roof, clogged-toilet Superdome. On Wednesday, as he met by intercom with his emergency team and decided to return to Washington, as Pentagon and Homeland Security promised relief by the weekend, intensive-care patients were dying at Charity Hospital in New Orleans. They had languished for two full days because the overworked Coast Guard helicopter crews available in New Orleans did not have time to reach them. The populism of Huey Long was financially corrupt, but when it came to the welfare of people, it was caring. The churchgoing cultural populism of George Bush has given the United States an administration that worries about the House of Saud and the welfare of oil companies while the poor drown in their attics and their sons and daughters die in foreign deserts.> Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-raines1sep01,0,7077142.story"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:01)", "body": "Live National Guard radio ops in NOLA via this link: http://216.22.26.45:8002/listen.pls May require winamp."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:03)", "body": "http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313 \"Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars....\""}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:05)", "body": "Great blog from the scene: http://dancingwithkatrina.blogspot.com/"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:06)", "body": "http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0901-01.htm Published on Thursday, September 1, 2005 by Knight-Ridder Federal Government Wasn't Ready for Katrina, Disaster Experts Say The slow response to Katrina and poor federal leadership is a replay of 1992's mishandling of Hurricane Andrew by Seth Borenstein WASHINGTON - The federal government so far has bungled the job of quickly helping the multitudes of hungry, thirsty and desperate victims of Hurricane Katrina, former top federal, state and local disaster chiefs said Wednesday. What you're seeing is revealing weaknesses in the state, local and federal levels. All three levels have been weakened. They've been weakened by diversion into terrorism. former Bush administration disaster response manager Eric Tolbert The experts, including a former Bush administration disaster response manager, told Knight Ridder that the government wasn't prepared, scrimped on storm spending and shifted its attention from dealing with natural disasters to fighting the global war on terrorism. The disaster preparedness agency at the center of the relief effort is the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which was enveloped by the new Department of Homeland Security with a new mission aimed at responding to the attacks of al-Qaida. \"What you're seeing is revealing weaknesses in the state, local and federal levels,\" said Eric Tolbert, who until February was FEMA's disaster response chief. \"All three levels have been weakened. They've been weakened by diversion into terrorism.\""}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:08)", "body": "http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0901-26.htm One of the main reasons New Orleans is so vulnerable to hurricanes is the gradual disappearance of the wetlands on the Gulf Coast that once stood as a natural buffer between the city and storms coming in from the water. The disappearance of those wetlands does not have the name of a political party or a particular administration attached to it. No one wants to play, \"The Democrats did it,\" or, \"It's all Reagan's fault.\" Many environmentalists will tell you more than a century's interference with the natural flow of the Mississippi is the root cause of the problem, cutting off the movement of alluvial soil to the river's delta. But in addition to long-range consequences of long-term policies like letting the Corps of Engineers try to build a better river than God, there are real short-term consequences, as well. It is a fact that the Clinton administration set some tough policies on wetlands, and it is a fact that the Bush administration repealed those policies--ordering federal agencies to stop protecting as many as 20 million acres of wetlands. - Molly Ivins"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:09)", "body": "One lasting lesson that has to be drawn from the Gulf Coast's misery is that from now on, the National Guard must be treated as America's most essential homeland security force, not as some kind of military piggy bank for the Pentagon to raid for long-term overseas missions. America clearly needs a larger active-duty Army. It just as clearly needs a homeland-based National Guard that's fully prepared and ready for any domestic emergency. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/opinion/02fri1.html"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:11)", "body": "Vice President Cheney, who has spent part of August at his home outside scenic Jackson, Wyo., remains there today -- although his spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, doesn't call it vacation. \"He's working from Wyoming today,\" McBride told me this morning. So what is his day like in Jackson? Any fly-fishing on the Snake River during his work day? \"He's already had his morning briefings,\" McBride said. \"He'll have some other internal staff meetings.\" Beyond that, McBride said, she would have to check and get back to me. I missed her call back but will try to reach her again. And when is he coming back? \"He will certainly be coming back. I'm not able to tell you the day right now. I don't have that handy.\" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2005/08/31/BL2005083101127_5.html"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:11)", "body": "Networks Won't Retreat From Graphic Coverage NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - While pledging to exercise taste, television news executives said they won't shy away from showing graphic pictures of the grim aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. On Thursday, several outlets -- including NBC, Fox News and CNN -- showed video of people who had died not during the storm but in the days following the hurricane. They included pictures of two people covered in sheets who had passed away outside the convention center in downtown New Orleans, where tens of thousands of people waited for food and water. One, in a wheelchair, held a note with next-of-kin information. At the same time, networks passed on showing the full picture of what had happened, particularly at the convention center. NBC News photojournalist Tony Zumbado captured video of the dead and dying that was so graphic that neither NBC News nor MSNBC would air it. ``I thought I'd seen it all, but I've never seen anything like this,'' Zumbado said on ``NBC Nightly News.'' Zumbado told MSNBC anchor Alison Stewart that there were dead bodies everywhere, including two babies who had died of dehydration. In a report earlier Thursday, Fox News anchor Shepard Smith stood on Interstate 10 amid the devastation and, in one shot, showed the covered body of a man who was dead alongside the highway. More: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/arts/entertainment-katrina-graphic.html"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:13)", "body": "FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility Brown pleased with effort: 'Things are going relatively well' Thursday, September 1, 2005; Posted: 11:41 p.m. EDT (03:41 GMT) CNN) -- The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said Thursday those New Orleans residents who chose not to heed warnings to evacuate before Hurricane Katrina bear some responsibility for their fates. Michael Brown also agreed with other public officials that the death toll in the city could reach into the thousands. \"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who did not heed the advance warnings,\" Brown told CNN. \"I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans,\" he said. http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html Federal officials who chose not to heed warnings about flood walls breaking and vulnerability need to bear some responsibility also."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:14)", "body": "http://weblog.burningbird.net/archives/2005/09/01/a-will-and-a-big-water/ This is a sweet, sweet essay. Recommended read."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:15)", "body": "from the above cited essay. Here\ufffds a prediction: come March, 2006, with our help, the towns along the coast will rebuild. A home will replace rubble, and a church will open its doors again. With our care, the bodies will be buried, and those who have suffered loss will be comforted. With our force, we will overcome those who grab gun and seek to cause fear (and in the process find that the \ufffdgangs\ufffd become \ufffdgroups\ufffd and the groups are fewer than our lurid speculations imply). With our support, the casinos and businesses along the coast of Mississippi will be in full swing, and folks will be back at work. And with our hard work and sacrifice, the Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans will be the best. Ever. The city is destroyed. What foolish nonsense. You know, the people that wrote this, they really don\ufffdt know the South, and the people who live by big water. Shelley"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:16)", "body": "http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/09/20050902-2.html \"Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch. (Laughter.)\" Give me a break."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:17)", "body": "Mayor Nagin on Air America. This was (is) pivotal. http://a901.g.akamai.net/7/901/13186/v002/airamerica.download.akamai.com/13186/aarplace/media/Nagin.mp3"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:18)", "body": "http://www.hurricanehousing.org/ 127,136 beds volunteered so far!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:20)", "body": ""}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:21)", "body": "\"Friday's evacuations began at about 9 a.m., halted for about an hour and then resumed two hours later. At midday, the evacuation was interrupted briefly when school buses rolled up so some 700 guests and employees from the Hyatt Hotel could move to the head of the line to be evacuatedb much to the amazement of those who had been crammed in the stinking Superdome since Sunday. \"How does this work? They (are) clean, they are dry, they get out ahead of us?\" exclaimed Howard Blue, 22, who tried to get in their line. The National Guard made him get back in with the unwashed masses as other guardsmen helped the well-dressed guests with their luggage.\" http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/02/national/a102443D45.DTL&feed=rss.news"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:21)", "body": "The people who chartered a bus were from the Astor Crowne Plaza. When the buses were commandeered by FEMA those tourists were told to go the convention center. For reasons I don't understand they instead tred to cross a bridge, were turned away by the police -- and fired on -- and spent the night huddled under a freeway overpass. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090200275_2.html The tourists who got moved to the front of the line at the superdome were from the Hyatt. There is no explanation why they were so special. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/02/national/a102443D45.DTL&feed=rss.news"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:21)", "body": "Our institutions completely failed us and it is not as if it is the first in the past three years -- this follows Abu Ghraib, the failure of planning in Iraq, the intelligence failures, the corporate scandals, the media scandals. ... Look at him today earlier in the program, this is how Mark Shields must feel looking at [Bush], I'm angry at the guy and maybe it will pass for me. But a lot of people and a lot of Republicans are furious right now. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/political_wrap/july-dec05/bop_9-2.html"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:22)", "body": "Kanye West Slams Bush In Live Telethon During NBC's live broadcast of Concert for Hurricane Relief rapper Kanye West, in what appeared to be an impromptu address, told viewers that National Guardsmen were given the unfair order to shoot at African-Americans on the streets of New Orleans. In a stumbling, yet defiant statement, West proclaimed that when African-Americans were caught stealing in New Orleans, they were called looters. However when whites were caught, they were just feeding their families. He was joined by former Saturday Night Live star Mike Myers, who returned to the script, and seemed frustrated by the the rapper's remarks. West then declared \"George Bush doesn't care about black people.\" Before the rapper could complete his statement, NBC producers cut away. More: http://www.kget.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=0E71260D-B9E0-4A4A-8621-7A101016AA7A"}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:22)", "body": "\"If we can't respond faster than this to an event we saw coming across the Gulf for days, then why do we think we're prepared to respond to a nuclear or biological attack?\" asked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican. http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcontent/nationworld/katrina/stories/090205ccKatrinawcBushrelief.1a575c4e.html"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:22)", "body": "Analysis: Can this actually be happening in America? http://www.wwltv.com/topstories/stories/wwl090205litke.1c58ed95.html"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:23)", "body": "from the above cite: Here. Authorities can't make the waters that did that retreat. They can't begin to rebuild the levee or the homes and businesses made uninhabitable, at least not now. They will never be able to restore much of what was washed away in the flood. But if a reporter can interview a man standing outside a looted drugstore, and record his reluctance at having to go inside and steal pads for incontinence, why couldn't someone get medical supplies to the people huddled at the Superdome or the convention center in time, or the buses promised to evacuate them? There are more questions than answers, and will be for years to come. That's the nature of disaster, and its aftermath. They expose our fragility, overwhelm our best intentions, mock our attempts to impose the sense of calm and order that prevails when life proceeds according to some rough plan. Yet, ultimately, that's what is most unsettling about the constant stream of images: The suffering goes on not just for hours, but for days after we should have and could have ended it. And for all the commissions, reports and bravado that passes for preparedness, we didn't. It was a hand we never expected to be dealt."}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:25)", "body": "The National Guard is refused to let reporters and photographers into the Superdome. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050903/ts_nm/mayhem_dc \"It doesn't need to be seen, it's a make-shift morgue in there,\" he told a Reuters photographer. \"We're not letting anyone in there anymore. If you want to take pictures of dead bodies, go to Iraq."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:26)", "body": "http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524 Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans? * Access to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders. * The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city. * The Red Cross has been meeting the needs of thousands of New Orleans residents in some 90 shelters throughout the state of Louisiana and elsewhere since before landfall. All told, the Red Cross is today operating 149 shelters for almost 93,000 residents. * The Red Cross shares the nation's anguish over the worsening situation inside the city. We will continue to work under the direction of the military, state and local authorities and to focus all our efforts on our lifesaving mission of feeding and sheltering. * The Red Cross does not conduct search and rescue operations. We are an organization of civilian volunteers and cannot get relief aid into any location until the local authorities say it is safe and provide us with security and access. * The original plan was to evacuate all the residents of New Orleans to safe places outside the city. With the hurricane bearing down, the city government decided to open a shelter of last resort in the Superdome downtown. We applaud this decision and believe it saved a significant number of lives. * As the remaining people are evacuated from New Orleans, the most appropriate role for the Red Cross is to provide a safe place for people to stay and to see that their emergency needs are met. We are fully staffed and equipped to handle these individuals once they are evacuated."}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:26)", "body": "\"The Federal Emergency Management Agency has been accused of being so concerned about the possibility of a terrorist attack that it failed to prepare properly for a much more inevitable natural disaster. After the authorities in Baton Rouge had prepared a field hospital for victims of the storm, Fema sent its first batch of supplies, all of which were designed for use against chemical attack, including drugs such as Cipro, which is designed for use against anthrax. \"We called them up and asked them: 'Why did you send that, and they said that's what it says in the book',\" said a Baton Rouge official.\" -- http://www.guardian.co.uk/katrina/story/0,16441,1561909,00.html"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:27)", "body": "WASHINGTON (AP) -- In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Americans must start \"asking tough questions\" about their safety, a House member from Louisiana said in the Democrats' weekly radio address. \"We are engaged in a massive effort under difficult circumstances to save lives and stabilize this crisis so that we may begin to restore our communities,\" Rep. Charlie Melancon said. \"This is job one.\" \"We must also be about the job of asking tough questions, my fellow Americans -- questions about the health of our infrastructure and emergency response capabilities,\" Melancon said. More: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/03/dems.katrina.radio.ap/index.html"}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:28)", "body": "This is a *year old* National Geographic article: \"It was a broiling August afternoon in New Orleans, Louisiana, the Big Easy, the City That Care Forgot. Those who ventured outside moved as if they were swimming in tupelo honey. Those inside paid silent homage to the man who invented air-conditioning as they watched TV \"storm teams\" warn of a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. Nothing surprising there: Hurricanes in August are as much a part of life in this town as hangovers on Ash Wednesday. But the next day the storm gathered steam and drew a bead on the city. As the whirling maelstrom approached the coast, more than a million people evacuated to higher ground. Some 200,000 remained, however--the car-less, the homeless, the aged and infirm, and those die-hard New Orleanians who look for any excuse to throw a party. The storm hit Breton Sound with the fury of a nuclear warhead, pushing a deadly storm surge into Lake Pontchartrain. The water crept to the top of the massive berm that holds back the lake and then spilled over. Nearly 80 percent of New Orleans lies below sea level--more than eight feet below in places--so the water poured in. A liquid brown wall washed over the brick ranch homes of Gentilly, over the clapboard houses of the Ninth Ward, over the white-columned porches of the Garden District, until it raced through the bars and strip joints on Bourbon Street like the pale rider of the Apocalypse. As it reached 25 feet (eight meters) over parts of the city, people climbed onto roofs to escape it. Thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste. Thousands more who survived the flood later perished from dehydration and disease as they waited to be rescued. It took two months to pump the city dry, and by then the Big Easy was buried under a blanket of putrid sediment, a million people were homeless, and 50,000 were dead. It was the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States. When did this calamity happen? It hasn't -- yet.\" http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/"}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:29)", "body": "AS THE EXTENT of Hurricane Katrina\ufffds devastation became clearer on Tuesday \ufffd millions without power, tens of thousands homeless, a death toll unknowable because rescue crews can\ufffdt reach some regions \ufffd President Bush carried on with his plans to speak in San Diego, as if nothing important had happened the day before. Katrina already is measured as one of the worst storms in American history. And yet, President Bush decided that his plans to commemorate the 60th anniversary of VJ Day with a speech were more pressing than responding to the carnage. A better leader would have flown straight to the disaster zone and announced the immediate mobilization of every available resource to rescue the stranded, find and bury the dead, and keep the survivors fed, clothed, sheltered and free of disease. The cool, confident, intuitive leadership Bush exhibited in his first term, particularly in the months immediately following Sept. 11, 2001, has vanished. In its place is a diffident detachment unsuitable for the leader of a nation facing war, natural disaster and economic uncertainty. Wherever the old George W. Bush went, we sure wish we had him back. from http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=59884"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:30)", "body": "New Orleans: A Geopolitical Prize September 01, 2005 2230 GMT Editor's Note: This article contained a numerical error as originally published and distributed to readers. The error is corrected in the version below. By George Friedman The American political system was founded in Philadelphia, but the American nation was built on the vast farmlands that stretch from the Alleghenies to the Rockies. That farmland produced the wealth that funded American industrialization: It permitted the formation of a class of small landholders who, amazingly, could produce more than they could consume. They could sell their excess crops in the east and in Europe and save that money, which eventually became the founding capital of American industry. But it was not the extraordinary land nor the farmers and ranchers who alone set the process in motion. Rather, it was geography -- the extraordinary system of rivers that flowed through the Midwest and allowed them to ship their surplus to the rest of the world. All of the rivers flowed into one -- the Mississippi -- and the Mississippi flowed to the ports in and around one city: New Orleans. It was in New Orleans that the barges from upstream were unloaded and their cargos stored, sold and reloaded on ocean-going vessels. Until last Sunday, New Orleans was, in many ways, the pivot of the American economy. For that reason, the Battle of New Orleans in January 1815 was a key moment in American history. Even though the battle occurred after the War of 1812 was over, had the British taken New Orleans, we suspect they wouldn't have given it back. Without New Orleans, the entire Louisiana Purchase would have been valueless to the United States. Or, to state it more precisely, the British would control the region because, at the end of the day, the value of the Purchase was the land and the rivers - which all converged on the Mississippi and the ultimate port of New Orleans. The hero of the battle was Andrew Jackson, and when he became president, his obsession with Texas had much to do with keeping the Mexicans away from New Orleans. The fascinating rest of this Stratfor article is at http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/weekly.php"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:31)", "body": "Computer users are being urged to be on guard for a bogus e-mail that pretends to offer news updates about Hurricane Katrina as a means to infect their PCs. The malicious e-mail gives a brief news bulletin on the disaster before urging people to click \"read more\" and be taken to the full story on a website. Yet once on the website, a reader's computer will receive a virus. People are also being told to watch out for fraudulent e-mail scams pretending to raise cash for Katrina victims. more at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4209182.stm"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:32)", "body": "Rapes, killings hit Katrina refugees in New Orleans By Mark Egan NEW ORLEANS, Sept 3 (Reuters) - People left homeless by Hurricane Katrina told horrific stories of rape, murder and trigger happy guards in two New Orleans centers that were set up as shelters but became places of violence and terror. ----- \"They killed a man here last night,\" Steve Banka, 28, told Reuters. \"A young lady was being raped and stabbed. And the sounds of her screaming got to this man and so he ran out into the street to get help from troops, to try to flag down a passing truck of them, and he jumped up on the truck's windscreen and they shot him dead.\" ----- People here said there were now 22 bodies of adults and children stored inside the building, but troops guarding the building refused to confirm that and threatened to beat reporters seeking access to the makeshift morgue. People trying to walk out are forced back at gunpoint - something troops said was for their own safety. \"It's sad, but how far do you think they would get,\" one soldier said. \"They have us living here like animals,\" said Wvonnette Grace-Jordan, here with five children, the youngest only six weeks old. \"We have only had two meals, we have no medicine and now there are thousands of people defecating in the streets. This is wrong. This is the United States of America.\" One National Guard soldier who asked not to be named for fear of punishment from his commanding officer said of the lack of medical attention at the center, \"They (the Bush administration) care more about Iraq and Afghanistan than here.\" The Louisiana National Guard soldier said, \"We are doing the best we can with the resources we have, but almost all of our guys are in Iraq.\" More: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03464940.htm"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:33)", "body": "Now nature has done what the Civil War couldn't do. Nature has done what the labor riots of the 1920's couldn't do. Nature had done what \"modern life\" with its relentless pursuit of efficiency couldn't do. It has done what racism couldn't do, and what segregation couldn't do either. Nature has laid the city waste - with a scope that brings to mind the end of Pompeii. Anne Rice, novelist at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/opinion/04rice.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5090&en=ce2f33f8719dba9c&ex=1283486400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss Read the rest of her story, it's gripping and insightful."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:34)", "body": "http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1077495.php Jessie Jackson riles against calling the \"evacuees\" refugees. But in this article, they're called \"insurgents.\" Good Lord."}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:37)", "body": "It seems the response to the hurricane on the national scale was beyond incompetent, beyond indifferent, and somewhere approaching the line of ... what, exactly? CrapMcFungled? Jackasstrophic? Neroesque? The top political appointees and candidates, in interview after interview,have decided on their defense. In each specific instance, aid wasn't given because that particular fragment of aid wasn't asked for (or because four or five days after landfall they still didn't know about, oh say, 15,000 evacuees in a major evacuation center.) There are still, today, reports of small communities that haven't yet gotten more than a token amount of aid. The entire argument is beyond insulting. The reason these communities haven't \"requested\" more aid? Because they have no working communications. They have no phones. Police and fire capabilities were all but destroyed, in some areas. Medical capabilities, even worse off. And yet it dawned on nobody, within FEMA or \"Homeland Security\" or anywhere else in this vaunted post-9/11 world, that maybe the flattened counties that nobody could contact and nobody could get information from NEEDED HELP? from http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/194510/7049"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:39)", "body": "\"No one knows how many were killed by Hurricane Katrina's floods and how many more succumbed waiting to be rescued. But the bodies are everywhere: hidden in attics, floating among the ruined city, crumpled on wheelchairs, abandoned on highways. And the dying goes on - at the convention center and an airport triage center, where bodies were kept in a refrigerated truck. Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Saturday that she expected the death toll to reach the thousands. And Craig Vanderwagen, rear admiral of the U.S. Public Health Service, said one morgue alone, at a St. Gabriel prison, expected 1,000 to 2,000 bodies.\" from http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050904/D8CD42BO0.html"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:40)", "body": "http://billmon.org/archives/002124.html WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Two key U.S. senators said on Friday they will launch a bipartisan coverup of what they described as an \"immense, but probably unavoidable failure\" of the government response to Hurricane Katrina. Sen. Susan Collins, a Maine Republican who heads the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, and Sen. Joseph Lieberman, the panel's other top-ranking Republican, said they hope to shift as much blame as possible to lower-ranking officials and career federal employees -- ideally at an obscure government agency that few Americans have ever heard of. \"In keeping with recent congressional practice, we will try to shield the president and the senior members of his administration from directly responsibility for this fiasco, although a few token resignations may be required this time around,\" the pair said in a joint statement. \"Our primary focus, however, will be on figuring out how to throw billions of dollars in additional funding to the very same agencies that failed so spectacularly this past week.\" Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist expressed his own support for a cover up, saying it would follow in the \"proud footsteps\" of Congress's refusal to hold anyone accountable for the failure to stop the 9/11 attacks, the completely inadequate investigation into the Abu Ghraib torture abuses, and the Senate Intelligence Committtee's whitewash of administration efforts to cook the intelligence on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Speaker of the House Denny Hastert declined to comment on the hurricane or the proposed Senate investigation, other than to make a loud \"BRRRRRRRR\" sound while pushing a toy bulldozer across a map of New Orleans."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:40)", "body": "\"When [FEMA Director] Brown explained how surprised he was that not everyone left the city before the storm, and that FEMA was currently trying to help those who didn't, Koppel shot back, \"Mr. Brown, some of these people are dead. They're beyond your help. Some of these people have died because they needed insulin and couldn't get it ... You say you were surprised by the fact that so many people didn't make it out. It's no surprise to anyone that you had at least 100,000 people in the city of New Orleans who are dirt poor [and couldn't afford to evacuate the city].\" http://www.cjrdaily.org/archives/001787.asp"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:41)", "body": "\"[...] Yet little of the most valuable coverage, local radio broadcasting, is available inside New Orleans. Without TV, Internet access, newspapers, and telephones, people are depending on radios\ufffdbattery-powered, in automobiles, or hand-crank\ufffdfor emergency information. But as of Thursday evening, only one station, Entercom's WWL-AM 870, had its own reporters on the air. Clear Channel Communications, which owns roughly 1,200 stations nationwide (about six times more than any other company) owns six stations in New Orleans. The company has been criticized for failing to provide emergency information or expansive coverage during other local disasters in recent years. During the first days of the disaster, none of the Clear Channel stations provided their own reporting on the crisis. One, KHEV, retransmitted audio from WWL-TV. On Friday, the Web sites for Clear Channel's New Orleans stations announced that they had joined other broadcasters in setting up \"United Radio for New Orleans\" and removed the promos for syndicated programs and paid advertisements that had been visible on the site over the previous days.\" http://www.slate.com/id/2125572/"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:42)", "body": "http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3338813 NBC deletes rapper's remark from telethon Kanye West said Bush 'doesn't care about black people' Kanye West's impromptu attack on President Bush during a live telecast Friday night prompted NBC to delete his remark in its West Coast broadcast of the benefit for victims of Hurricane Katrina."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:42)", "body": "http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1764115,00.html \"There seems to me a strong chance that this calamity could be the beginning of something profound in American politics: a sense that government is broken and that someone needs to fix it.\" \"The president... had already opined that nobody had foreseen the breaching of New Orleans\ufffd levees. Earth to Bush: the breaching of the levees had been foreseen for decades. If anyone wanted evidence that this president was completely divorced from reality, that statement was Exhibit A.\""}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:43)", "body": "Chertoff: Katrina scenario did not exist However, experts for years had warned of threat to New Orleans Defending the U.S. government's response to Hurricane Katrina, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff argued Saturday that government planners did not predict such a disaster ever could occur. But in fact, government officials, scientists and journalists have warned of such a scenario for years. Chertoff, fielding questions from reporters, said government officials did not expect both a powerful hurricane and a breach of levees that would flood the city of New Orleans. (See the video on a local paper's prophetic warning -- 3:30 ) \"That 'perfect storm' of a combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners, and maybe anybody's foresight,\" Chertoff said. He called the disaster \"breathtaking in its surprise.\" But engineers say the levees preventing this below-sea-level city from being turned into a swamp were built to withstand only Category 3 hurricanes. And officials have warned for years that a Category 4 could cause the levees to fail. More: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.chertoff/index.html"}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:44)", "body": "\"Eventually we're going to have to examine the administration's behavior before, during and after this storm as closely as its history before, during and after 9/11. We're going to have to ask if troops and mat\ufffdriel of all kinds could have arrived faster without the drain of national resources into a quagmire. We're going to have to ask why it took almost two days of people being without food, shelter and water for Mr. Bush to get back to Washington.\" from http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/opinion/04rich.html?th&emc=th"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:47)", "body": "http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_90405.pdf (Show Transcript) BOB SCHIEFFER: Finally, a personal thought. We have come through what may have been one of the worst weeks in America's history, a week in which government at every level failed the people it was created to serve. There is no purpose for government except to improve the lives of its citizens. Yet as scenes of horror that seemed to be coming from some Third World country flashed before us, official Washington was like a dog watching television. It saw the lights and images, but did not seem to comprehend their meaning or see any link to reality. As the floodwaters rose, local officials in New Orleans ordered the city evacuated. They might as well have told their citizens to fly to the moon. How do you evacuate when you don't have a car? No hint of intelligent design in any of this. This was just survival of the richest. By midweek a parade of Washington officials rushed before the cameras to urge patience. What good is patience to a mother who can't find food and water for a dehydrated child? Washington was coming out of an August vacation stupor and seemed unable to refocus on business or even think straight. Why else would Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert questionaloud whether New Orleans should even be rebuilt? And when he was unable to get to Washington in time to vote on emergency aid funds, Hastert had an excuse only Washington could understand: He had to attend a fund-raiser back home. Since 9/11, Washington has spent years and untold billions reorganizingthe government to deal with crises brought on by possible terrorist attacks. If this is the result, we had better start over."}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:48)", "body": "http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/ OUR OPINIONS: An open letter to the President Dear Mr. President: We heard you loud and clear Friday when you visited our devastated city and the Gulf Coast and said, \"What is not working, we\ufffdre going to make it right.\" Please forgive us if we wait to see proof of your promise before believing you. But we have good reason for our skepticism. Bienville built New Orleans where he built it for one main reason: It\ufffds accessible. The city between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain was easy to reach in 1718. How much easier it is to access in 2005 now that there are interstates and bridges, airports and helipads, cruise ships, barges, buses and diesel-powered trucks. Despite the city\ufffds multiple points of entry, our nation\ufffds bureaucrats spent days after last week\ufffds hurricane wringing their hands, lamenting the fact that they could neither rescue the city\ufffds stranded victims nor bring them food, water and medical supplies... State Rep. Karen Carter was right Friday when she said the city didn\ufffdt have but two urgent needs: \"Buses! And gas!\" Every official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be fired, Director Michael Brown especially. In a nationally televised interview Thursday night, he said his agency hadn\ufffdt known until that day that thousands of storm victims were stranded at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center. He gave another nationally televised interview the next morning and said, \"We\ufffdve provided food to the people at the Convention Center so that they\ufffdve gotten at least one, if not two meals, every single day.\" Lies don\ufffdt get more bald-faced than that, Mr. President. Yet, when you met with Mr. Brown Friday morning, you told him, \"You\ufffdre doing a heck of a job.\" That\ufffds unbelievable. There were thousands of people at the Convention Center because the riverfront is high ground. The fact that so many people had reached there on foot is proof that rescue vehicles could have gotten there, too. We, who are from New Orleans, are no less American than those who live on the Great Plains or along the Atlantic Seaboard. We\ufffdre no less important than those from the Pacific Northwest or Appalachia. Our people deserved to be rescued. No expense should have been spared. No excuses should have been voiced. Especially not one as preposterous as the claim that New Orleans couldn\ufffdt be reached. Mr. President, we sincerely hope you fulfill your promise to make our beloved communities work right once again. When you do, we will be the first to applaud."}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:48)", "body": "http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05247/564856.stm The president from Mars Sunday, September 04, 2005 By Dennis Roddy As New Orleans took on the atmospherics of a John Carpenter movie, George W. Bush, a man reluctant to distinguish between desperation and lawlessness, much less make the connection between the two, proved at last he is his father's son. Thirteen years earlier George Bush the Elder saw a black population mired in poverty and alienation riot after a California jury blithely acquitted the posse of Los Angeles cops who beat Rodney King half to death. His response was to deliver an indignant speech about law and order, proving only that he was blind to the nuances of plain justice. Last week, with the poor stranded on rooftops, then huddled, hungry and abandoned inside a leaking stadium and a sweltering convention center, George the Lesser watched in seeming amazement when they ran riot... Bush has shown, first in a distant land, where the corpses are foreign, and from which dead Americans can be smuggled home with photographers banned, and now, inside his own borders, that he has no grasp of how policy and outcome are interconnected."}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:50)", "body": "http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101329,00.htm It isn't easy picking George Bush's worst moment last week. Was it his first go at addressing the crisis Wednesday, when he came across as cool to the point of uncaring? Was it when he said that he didn't \"think anybody expected\" the New Orleans levees to give way, though that very possibility had been forecast for years? Was it when he arrived in Mobile, Ala., a full four days after the storm made landfall, and praised his hapless Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) director, Michael D. Brown, whose disaster credentials seemed to consist of once being the commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association? \"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job,\" said the President. Or was it that odd moment when he promised to rebuild Mississippi Senator Trent Lott's house--a gesture that must have sounded astonishingly tone-deaf to the homeless black citizens still trapped in the postapocalyptic water world of New Orleans. \"Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house--he's lost his entire house,\" cracked Bush, \"there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch.\" Bush seemed so regularly out of it last week, it made you wonder if he was stuck in the same White House bubble of isolation that confined his dad. Too often, W. looked annoyed. Or he smiled when he should have been serious. Or he swaggered when simple action would have been the right move. And he was so slow. Everyone knew on Sunday morning that Katrina was a killer. Yet when the levees broke after the storm, the White House slouched toward action. And this from a leader who made his bones with 9/11. In a crisis he can act paradoxically, appearing--almost simultaneously--strong and weak, decisive and vacillating, Churchill and Chamberlain. This week he was more Chamberlain."}, {"response": 50, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:50)", "body": "Sen. Landrieu Threatens to 'Punch' President if He Keeps Hitting Local Response to Katrina By E&P Staff NEW YORK -- Senator Mary Landrieu, the Democrat of Louisiana (whose father was a mayor of New Orleans), appears to have finally found her voice after offering only cautious criticism of the federal relief effort in the hurriance catastrophe earlier in the week. Today she promised to literally \"punch\" anyone, \"including the president,\" who contnued to question the local response to the tragedy, considering the gross federal misconduct. Appearing on ABC's \"The Week\" TV program this morning, Senator Landrieu still appeared to be smarting from President Bush's comments, during his national radio address, that state and local bore a fair share of blame for the slow response. On a copter tour of the area, Landrieu said that if she heard any more criticism from federal officials, particularly about the evacuation of New Orleans, she might lose control. \"If one person criticizes them or says one more thing - including the president of the United States - he will hear from me,\" she said on the ABC program. \"One more word about it after this show airs and I might likely have to punch him. Literally.\" She burst into tears as she looked at a broken levee. \"The President could have funded it,\" she said. \"He cut it out of the budget. Is that the most pitiful sight you have ever seen in your life? One little crane.\" She also referred angrily to comments Bush had made Friday at the New Orleans airport about the fun he had in her city in his younger days. \"Our infrastructure is devastated, lives have been shattered,\" Landrieu said. \"Would the president please stop taking photo-ops?\" Source: http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054594"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:51)", "body": "http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Katrina.htm Fed Response to Katrina Gets Thumbs Down September 4, 2005--Just 28% of Americans give say that the federal government has done a good or an excellent job responding to Hurricane Katrina. Another 25% say the government has done a fair job while 45% say poor. Interest in the story is extraordinarily high. Eighty-eight percent (88%) of Americans say they are closely following news stories about the tragedy, including 59% who are following it \"very closely.\" Forty-seven percent (47%) have made a financial contribution to help the victims of the disaster. Seventy-eight percent (78%) have said a prayer for them. Eighty-five percent (85%) say that the \"disaster in New Orleans and surrounding areas [will] have a major impact on the U.S. economy. Consumer confidence has fallen to its lowest level in more than two years."}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:51)", "body": ""}, {"response": 53, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:52)", "body": "Frank Rich: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/opinion/04rich.html?pagewanted=print This administration would like us to forget a lot, starting with the simple fact that next Sunday is the fourth anniversary of the day we were attacked by Al Qaeda, not Iraq. Even before Katrina took command of the news, Sept. 11, 2005, was destined to be a half-forgotten occasion, distorted and sullied by a grotesquely inappropriate Pentagon-sponsored country music jamboree on the Mall. But hard as it is to reflect upon so much sorrow at once, we cannot allow ourselves to forget the real history surrounding 9/11; it is the Rosetta stone for what is happening now. If we are to pull ourselves out of the disasters of Katrina and Iraq alike, we must live in the real world, not the fantasyland of the administration's faith-based propaganda. Everything connects. Though history is supposed to occur first as tragedy, then as farce, even at this early stage we can see that tragedy is being repeated once more as tragedy. From the president's administratio"}, {"response": 54, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:53)", "body": "http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/opinion/05herbert.html?pagewanted=print September 5, 2005 A Failure of Leadership By BOB HERBERT \"Bush to New Orleans: Drop Dead\" Neither the death of the chief justice nor the frantic efforts of panicked White House political advisers can conceal the magnitude of the president's failure of leadership last week. The catastrophe in New Orleans billowed up like the howling winds of hell and was carried live and in color on television screens across the U.S. and around the world. The Big Easy had turned into the Big Hurt, and the colossal failure of George W. Bush to intervene powerfully and immediately to rescue tens of thousands of American citizens who were suffering horribly and dying in agony was there for all the world to see. Hospitals with deathly ill patients were left without power, with ventilators that didn't work, with floodwaters rising on the lower floors and with corpses rotting in the corridors and stairwells. People unable to breathe on their own, or with cancer or heart disease or kidney failure, slipped into comas and sank into their final sleep in front of helpless doctors and relatives. These were Americans in desperate trouble. The president didn't seem to notice."}, {"response": 55, "author": "gomezdo", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:53)", "body": "Good God, Terry, I thought I was going overboard with 2 posts with multiple links this morning. Try spreading it out a bit. It's a bit overwhelming to find other topics. But some interesting links and stories, thanks."}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:53)", "body": "\"When President Bush told \"Good Morning America\" on Thursday morning that nobody could have \"anticipated\" the breach of the New Orleans levees, it pointed to not only a remote leader in denial, but a whole political class. \"The uneasy paradox which so many live with in this country - of being first-and-foremost rugged individuals, out to plunder what they can and paying as little tax as they can get away with, while at the same time believing that America is a robust, model society - has reached a crisis point this week.\" From a BBC Viewpoint piece. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210674.stm"}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:54)", "body": "\"For those away from New Orleans - most all of us - in this week of tears and wrenching, words fail. Somehow our heart's reach comes short and we've been left with an aching, pointless inwardness. 'All memory resolves itself in gaze,' poet Richard Hugo wrote once about another town that died. Empathy is what we long for - not sadness for a house we own, or owned once, now swept away. Not even for the felt miracle of two wide-eyed children whirled upward into a helicopter as if into clouds. We want more than that, even at this painful long distance: we want to project our feeling parts straight into the life of a woman standing waist-deep in a glistening toxic current with a whole city's possessions all floating about, her own belongings in a white plastic bag, and who has no particular reason for hope, and so is just staring up. We would all give her hope. Comfort. A part of ourselves. Perform an act of renewal. It's hard to make sense of this, we say. But it makes sense. Making sense just doesn't help.\" -- Richard Ford http://books.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5277188-99819,00.html"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:55)", "body": "http://wiredblogs.tripod.com/sterling/index.blog?entry_id=1211972 Wired's Bruce Sterling plucks out some of the commentary from the world press."}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:56)", "body": "Some of the links above are truly amazing. It may be worth your while to click on them and learn more than the excerpts."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:57)", "body": "Category: ray nagin SEP 05 2005 Daily Briefing -- Katrina: A 'Besieged White House' \ufffd Rove and Bartlett devised plan to shift blame to Louisiana and to ignore Democrats' attacks; many Bush advisors spent weekend at Nicole Devenish's wedding in Greece. Chertoff's talking point: \"We will have time to go back and do an after-action report, but the time right now is to look at what the enormous tasks ahead are.\" [NYT] \ufffd Officials point fingers over failures in Gulf Coast. Nagin: \"We're still fighting over authority.\" Hillary calls for independent commission to analyze response. [NYT, WT] \ufffd \"Besieged White House\" forced to balance problems on the Gulf Coast, complexity of Supreme Court drama, and ongoing challenges in Iraq. [WP, WT] \ufffd High death toll anticipated. Michael Leavitt: \"I think it's evident it's in the thousands.\" Chertoff: \"We need to prepare the country for what's coming.\" [WP, NYT, LAT] \ufffd Bush to revisit Louisiana today. Doris Kearns Goodwin: \"These are the kinds of moments when a president gives voice to the country. They're remembered forever, if it's done right.\" [NYT] \ufffd Years of budget cuts and bureaucratic shuffling have left FEMA unprepared. Former official: \"They've taken emergency management away from the emergency managers. These operations are being run by people who are amateurs at what they are doing.\" [LAT] \ufffd Howard Kurtz: \"For once, reporters were acting like concerned citizens, not passive observers. . . Maybe, just maybe, journalism needs to bring more passion to the table -- and not just when cable shows are obsessing on the latest missing white woman.\" [WP] READ MORE: Media , cable news , dan bartlett , doris kearns goodwin , fema , george w. bush , hillary clinton , howard kurtz , karl rove , katrina , louisiana , michael chertoff , michael leavitt , nicole devenish , ray nagin SEP 02 2005 Nagin's Nightmare: Full Transcript CNN just sent out the full transcript of the New Orleans Mayor's emotional and (understandably) expletive-laden interview on local radio yesterday: \"excuse my French everybody in America, but I am pissed.\" It's after the jump. RELATED: Ray Nagin for President, Anderson Cooper for Secretary of Take No Shit [Wonkette] CNN airs WWL Radio interview with New Orleans Mayor Ray ; This is a rush transcript and may not be in its final format. RAY NAGIN, MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS: I told him we had an incredible crisis here and that his flying over in Air Force One does not do it justice. And that I have been all around this city, and I am very frustrated because we are not able to marshal resources and we're out-manned in just about every respect. You know the reason why the looters got out of control? Because we had most of our resources saving people, thousands of people that were stuck in attics, man, old ladies. When you pull off the doggone ventilator vent and you look down there and they're standing in there in water up to their freaking necks. And they don't have a clue what's going on down here. They flew down here one time two days after the doggone event was over with TV cameras, AP reporters, all kind of goddamn -- excuse my French everybody in America, but I am pissed. GARLAND ROBINETTE, WWL CORRESPONDENT: Did you say to the president of the United States, \"I need the military in here\"? NAGIN: I said, \"I need everything.\" Now, I will tell you this -- and I give the president some credit on this -- he sent one John Wayne dude down here that can get some stuff done, and his name is General Honore. And he came off the doggone chopper and he started cussing and people started moving. And he's getting some stuff done. They ought to give that guy -- if they don't want to give it to me, give him full authority to get the job done, and we can save some people. ROBINETTE: What do you need right now to get control of this situation? NAGIN: I need reinforcements, I need troops, man. I need 500 buses, man. We ain't talking about -- you know, one of the briefings we had, they were talking about getting public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out here. I'm like, \"You got to be kidding me. This is a national disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound busline in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans.\" That's -- they're thinking small, man. And this is a major, major, major deal. And I can't emphasize it enough, man. This is crazy. I've got 15,000 to 20,000 people over at the convention center. It's bursting at the seams. The poor people in Plaquemines Parish. They're air-vacing people over here in New Orleans. We don't have anything and we're sharing with our brothers in Plaquemines Parish. It's awful down here, man. ROBINETTE: Do you believe that the president is seeing this, holding a news conference on it but can't do anything until Kathleen Blanco requested him to do it? And do you know whether or not she has made that request? NAGIN: I have no idea what they're doing. But I will tell you this: You know, God is looking down on all this and if t"}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (09:57)", "body": "The above is from the very excellent blog, wonkette.com"}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (10:01)", "body": "This from the news conference: Topic 101 of 101: 'Hurricane Katrina and the destruction of New Orleans' Resp 59 of 59: Dorine (gomezdo) Mon, Sep 5, 2005 (08:49) 43 lines Forgot to give the link where some of those excerpts came...a Katrina timeline... http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Hurricane_Katrina_Chronology What some of the locals think... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/4/152433/0622 Bob Schieffer of CBS News on Face the Nation gives a great editorial, too. Look at the 4th comment down. This links to the whole Newsweek story they excerpt here. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/5/02528/13587 (Just click on the link in orange that says \"And people were dying\") This links to the NYT... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/4/233958/0435 Oh and found more of FEMA turning away aid either actively or passively. http://www.timescommunity.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=15144436&BRD=2553&PAG=461&dept_id=506035&rfi=6 Here's an interesting back and forth about who dropped the ball and when, mostly focusing on the local level. Some interesting links. Check the end where it talks about why Nagin took so long to declare a mandatory evacuation. Much of what I'm seeing everywhere about who did and didn't do something is a case of CYA and worrying about potential lawsuits from various parties. http://instapundit.com/archives/025328.php Talking about FEMA organization since 9/11. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/4/4271/53522 Now in all fairness, I think they did fairly ok with other disasters in the past few years. So what happened here? And the point to doing this would be? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/3/225254/3764 Not surprising, but *shaking head*. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_09/007042.php Another photo op? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/3/223021/8888 Tried to link directly to Americablog, but must be too busy. I'm trying to find a happy story, but having a hard time. I guess the kid with the bus is it. :-("}, {"response": 63, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (10:02)", "body": "http://spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/news/101/since/-365 is where you'll find more discussion of this topic on the Spring. It's Topic 101 of 101: Hurricane Katrina and the destruction of New Orleans"}, {"response": 64, "author": "paul", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (10:04)", "body": "OK Dorine, I'll take a break. And I haven't even had my first cup of coffee yet this morning."}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (11:01)", "body": "Some Brits got caught in the Superdome: \"The army told us to stick in a group and for the women to sit in the middle with the men around the outside and to be ready to defend ourselves,\ufffd Mr Nelson, from Epsom, Surrey, said. \ufffdTheir urgency scared us. I sat on the outside, really scared by this point, sitting waiting for God knows what. We waited and waited, I didn\ufffdt sleep. A lot of the girls had been groped.\ufffd Miss Wheeldon, from Carmarthen, South Wales, said that being inside the Superdome was terrifying and that she had been sexually harassed. The atmosphere was extremely intimidating,\ufffd the Lancaster University student said. \ufffdPeople stared at us all the time and men would come up to me and stroke my stomach and bottom. They would also say horrible, suggestive things. The worst time came when there was a rumour that a white man had raped a black woman. We were scared that we would be raped, robbed, or both. People were arguing, fighting and being arrested all the time.\ufffd The \ufffdinternationals, as the army labelled the stranded tourists, were among the few white people in the stadium. Marked out by their skin colour and unfamiliar accents, they were verbally abused, while their luggage made them targets for robbery. from http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1765482,00.html"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (11:29)", "body": "In the NYT piece which Dorine liked so much: it has also positioned Katrina before a rapt late-summer audience as a replay of the sinking of the Titanic. New Orleans's first-class passengers made it safely into lifeboats; for those in steerage, it was a horrifying spectacle of every man, woman and child for himself. THE captain in this case, Michael Chertoff, the homeland security secretary, was so oblivious to those on the lower decks that on Thursday he applauded the federal response to the still rampaging nightmare as \"really exceptional.\" He told NPR that he had \"not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don't have food and water\" - even though every television viewer in the country had been hearing of those 25,000 stranded refugees for at least a day. This Titanic syndrome, too, precisely echoes the post-9/11 wartime history of an administration that has rewarded the haves at home with economic goodies while leaving the have-nots to fight in Iraq without proper support in manpower or armor. Surely it's only a matter of time before Mr. Chertoff and the equally at sea FEMA director, Michael Brown (who also was among the last to hear about the convention center), are each awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom in line with past architects of lethal administration calamity like George Ten t and Paul Bremer. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/opinion/04rich.html?pagewanted=print"}, {"response": 67, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (12:46)", "body": "The Potemkin President http://billmon.org/archives/002126.html That Bush's trip to the hurricane zone would turn into a portable soundstage, complete with props and carefully screened human extras, shouldn't surprise anyone. It's just the way the modern imperial presidency operates in the television age. Nevertheless, the phrase \"Potemkin Village\" inevitably comes to mind -- and not just as a metaphor for this particular tour. Even for a modern imperial president, the bubble that Bush now lives in is impressively impermeable to reality. A portable bunker, in other words. But thinking about the political impact of Hurricane Katrina, it occurred to me that the real Potemkin Village here is Bush himself -- or rather, the mythic image of Bush that was created in the wake of 9/11. New Orleans may, at great cost, be resurrected from the waters. Bush's presidential image, on the other hand, is probably gone for good. For him, at least, this really is the \"anti-9/11.\""}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep  5, 2005 (12:48)", "body": "Why FEMA Was Missing in Action By Peter G. Gosselin and Alan C. Miller, Times Staff Writers WASHINGTON \ufffd While the federal government has spent much of the last quarter-century trimming the safety nets it provides Americans, it has dramatically expanded its promise of protection in one area \ufffd disaster. Since the 1970s, Washington has emerged as the insurer of last resort against floods, fires, earthquakes and \ufffd after 2001 \ufffd terrorist attacks. But the government's stumbling response to the storm that devastated the nation's Gulf Coast reveals that the federal agency singularly most responsible for making good on Washington's expanded promise has been hobbled by cutbacks and a bureaucratic downgrading. The Federal Emergency Management Agency once speedily delivered food, water, shelter and medical care to disaster areas, and paid to quickly rebuild damaged roads and schools and get businesses and people back on their feet. Like a commercial insurance firm setting safety standards to prevent future problems, it also underwrote efforts to get cities and states to reduce risks ahead of time and plan for what they would do if calamity struck. But in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks, FEMA lost its Cabinet-level status as it was folded into the giant new Department of Homeland Security. And in recent years it has suffered budget cuts, the elimination or reduction of key programs and an exodus of experienced staffers. The agency's core budget, which includes disaster preparedness and mitigation, has been cut each year since it was absorbed by the Homeland Security Department in 2003. Depending on what the final numbers end up being for next fiscal year, the cuts will have been between about 2% and 18%. The agency's staff has been reduced by 500 positions to 4,735. Among the results, FEMA has had to cut one of its three emergency management teams, which are charged with overseeing relief efforts in a disaster. Where it once had \"red,\" \"white\" and \"blue\" teams, it now has only red and white. Three out of every four dollars the agency provides in local preparedness and first-responder grants go to terrorism-related activities, even though a recent Government Accountability Office report quotes local officials as saying what they really need is money to prepare for natural disasters and accidents. \"They've taken emergency management away from the emergency managers,\" complained Morrie Goodman, who was FEMA's chief spokesman during the Clinton administration. \"These operations are being run by people who are amateurs at what they are doing.\" More: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fema5sep05,0,685581.story"}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  6, 2005 (10:50)", "body": "FEMA stories - do you sense a pattern? FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board FEMA to Chicago: Send just one truck FEMA turns away generators (See entry from 3:32 P.M. by Ben Morris, Slidell mayor) FEMA: \"First Responders Urged Not To Respond\" FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations FEMA turns away experienced firefighters FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food FEMA bars morticians from entering New Orleans"}, {"response": 70, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  6, 2005 (11:26)", "body": "\"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this (she chuckled slightly)--this is working very well for them.\" -- Barbara Bush, after touring the Astrodome and visiting with Katrina refugees there."}, {"response": 71, "author": "lafn", "date": "Tue, Sep  6, 2005 (11:57)", "body": "Now Terry....let's not take this quote out of context. BUSH MOM: EVERYONE WANTS TO MOVE TO TEXAS Mon Sep 05 2005 19:52:02 ET Former first lady and mother to President Bush said Monday that evacuees from New Orleans have found a home in Houston. \"Almost everyone I?ve talked to says we're going to move to Houston,\" Barbara Bush told NPR. \"What I?m hearing is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. \"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this --this is working very well for them.\" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~` These are underpriviled people who wanted to move to Texas where there are more opportunities and who would not have had the means on their own on their to relocate. It's NOT that they were lucky that this catastrophe occured . Mrs. Bush is not mean-spirited. Many of the evacuees on TV have indicated they don't want to return to Louisanna and want to stay in Texas where there are more jobs."}, {"response": 72, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep  6, 2005 (13:32)", "body": "Sean Penn gets into rescue act BY NICOLE BODE NEW ORLEANS - Sean Penn took matters into his own hands yesterday, launching a boat in a personal effort to rescue New Orleans families stranded by Hurricane Katrina. The Oscar-winning actor and political activist managed to reach several people who had been trapped in their homes since the hurricane hit Monday. Penn, who was accompanied by his personal photographer and a crew of helpers, brought the victims to dry land - and gave them cash as well. Johnnie Brown, 73, a retired custodian, called his sister on a cell phone after being plucked from his flooded house. \"Guess who come and got me out of the house? Sean Penn the actor. Them boys were really nice,\" he said. Penn later accompanied a few of them to a hospital. Asked what he was doing in the disaster zone, Penn said, \"Whatever I can do to help.\" More: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/343547p-293308c.html"}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep  9, 2005 (13:24)", "body": "More media attention than you can imagine. WASHINGTON, January 14, 2002 \ufffd The average net worth of the individual members of the Bush cabinet, including the President and Vice President, was between $9.3 and $27.3 million. That's nearly ten times the average net worth of the cabinet officials who were their immediate predecessors, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis of executive branch personal financial disclosure forms...Cumulatively, the President, Vice President and cabinet secretaries were worth somewhere between $149 and $434 million. By contrast, the net worth of the same 16 officials from the last year of the Clinton administration was in a range between $14.5 to $45.9 million.\""}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov  7, 2005 (12:29)", "body": "Hurricane Katrina's toll on New Orleans\ufffdand on America's tattered self-image By DAVID HALBERSTAM READ TOM SANCTON'S ESSAY \"THE RETURN OF THE NATIVE\" The scenes were at once familiar and unfamiliar. Familiar because television has become expert at bringing us news of disasters\ufffdhurricanes being a particular specialty of the medium\ufffdand it does them better than it does any other kind of story. It is all about pictures, something television producers understand brilliantly, and the pictures in this instance were exceptionally powerful and compelling. The producers and television news reporters, in fact, may have become a bit too smooth, and the danger is they risk turning the real and authentic into something that appears programmed and artificial. First, there are the tragedy and the tears; then, in time, the redemption, the rejuvenation, and the gratitude. Even with Katrina the coverage sometimes seemed scripted, as if they had the story down even before the hurricane struck and needed only to find the right local characters from central casting to play their prescribed roles and the right faces in the crowd that were immediately recognizable in their emotions. Worth reading the rest at http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/051107roco02 It's Vanity Fair."}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec  3, 2005 (11:44)", "body": "The Storm -- An eye-opening look at the bungling and failures at every level of government in the Hurricane Katrina disaster. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 45, "subject": "New York Times", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  7, 2005 (23:40)", "body": "There's Maureen Dowd, who's everywhere these days, and there's this http://annotatedtimes.blogrunner.com/ a recompilation of the NYT in a very palatable online format. The Annotated New York Times tracks blog postings that cite articles published by The New York Times. These blog fragments are grouped by author or by topic to form virtual, distributed conversations that span multiple sites and that center around the coverage of news events as reported by the Times. The Annotated New York Times is a BlogRunner virtual weblog - for more weblogs that integrate media and blogs and that track breaking stories as they propagate across the web, visit BlogRunner. Annotated New York Times media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 5, "subject": "Time, Newsweek and US News - the newsweekly item", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (22:05)", "body": "I teethed on TIME, almost literally. My grandfather saved up a short stack and brought them to me. We never had enough reading material (if there is such a quantity) in those days. Later I subscribed to Newsweek, because the price was considerably nicer. A couple of years ago I got a \"professional rate\" offer and went back to TIME. The style is not so stiff as when \"backwards ran sentences until reeled the mind.\" Post-election special was outstanding. Over the years TIME writers described Louis Armstrong's singing voice as \"gravel in a malted machine\" and reporters as newshawks or newshens depending on the gender. And a TIME letter-to-the-editor quoted \"The Episcopal Song\" in full-- noting that it is sung to \"God Bless America.\" Super. I'll quote the whole thing at the drop of a hat, and furnish the hat if necessary. So yes, it's true. TIME brings all things. And wounds all heels? media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 6, "subject": "The Austin Chronicle", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 24, 2003 (15:18)", "body": "HOME: VOL.22 NO.25: NEWS : NAKED CITY Austin Stories Naked City February 21, 2003: Stay current on the mayor's race at www.austinmayor.com, a blog that seeks contributions from candidates' campaigns. Voters can also join in the hot online action through chats, forums, conferences, feedback forums, straw polls, and other interactivities. For now, the site's most useful elements are its cluster of campaign-related articles and a beefy list of Austincentric links. -- Lauri Apple media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 7, "subject": "Austin American Statesman and Austin360 website", "response_count": 4, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "ozzie", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (13:06)", "body": "Which town? I'm in Australia! Isn't this supposed to be a global communications device?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (16:35)", "body": "Yep, we're global and local. Glad to see you stopped by."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (03:00)", "body": "I think it is so great that I am posting the e-lerts in Austin news in the Austin conference. Austin does not have a local newspaper?! Wow! You do mean one handling local news of interest to the people living there? Guess that is what happens when you live in the state capital city...local stuff takes a back seat. Austen360 seems to do it all very nicely."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (06:23)", "body": "360 does ok, it's never really lived up to expectations. They have their slant and tend to mask the bad news about the dot com demise (advertisers, ya know). media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 8, "subject": "Commercials and ads - the good, the bad, and the patently offensive", "response_count": 16, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (13:03)", "body": "On the coolest ad running on tv right now, that's easy. I love that IBM ad with the monks communicating telepathically while seated in meditation. The one telepaths \"Why am I always the last one to know?\" Best parody of the IBM \"you make the call ad\" is Max Miller's takeoff on KFON 1490 AM Austin. \"IBM Financial Services, give us all your money and we'll get back to you.\" Any candidates for truly horrendous, awful ads?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "joshd", "date": "Wed, Nov 13, 1996 (11:55)", "body": "I thought the best political ad of the season was Victor Morales' late one, which had a bunch of people standing around with little cut-outs of Phil Gramm held over their faces. It was kind of creepy and hilarious, all at the same time."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 13, 1996 (15:08)", "body": "I saw that. That was kind of funny. Scary thought, being confronted by an army of Phil Gramms."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (08:41)", "body": "has anyone seen the great Nike ad where time freezes in several peoples lives while Michael Jordan does a spin move and then dunks, the guy stops shaving and his sink is spilling over. Space Jam has opened. There's some money out there that Michael Jordon doesn't have yet. Perhaps they could legislate a Michael Jordan tax that would just send a substantial portion of everyones income to him and save you the trouble of buying $150 shoes and cologne."}, {"response": 5, "author": "joshd", "date": "Mon, Nov 25, 1996 (23:00)", "body": "I dunno, I kind of like the idea of saving a little bit of face by NOT spending money on Jordan-related enterprises. Like not wearing Jordan's cologne, for starters!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 25, 1996 (23:33)", "body": "Yeah, I was just kidding. I'm not up to supporting the Gross Jordan Product. The other commercial series that's hot right now is the Lotus Notes/Domino commercials. Have you seen them? Where the guy slams the web surfers."}, {"response": 7, "author": "joshd", "date": "Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (22:29)", "body": "Yeah, Dennis Leary. He's funnier when he writes his own material and not reciting some copy writer's version of him."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 26, 1996 (23:13)", "body": "He's good. I'd like to see him with his own material if he's this good with someone else mediocre material."}, {"response": 9, "author": "ozzie", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (08:03)", "body": "What is this - the Terry and Josh show??? Does anyone else out there readining this - or am I the only sucker interested???"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (11:36)", "body": "We're just getting this cranked up. Don't worry, I'm working on ways to get more guests to the party. Anyone see any incredibly cool or really bad commercials lately?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (13:16)", "body": "How about Packard Bells new ads? Don't they remind you of the early apple commercials? They really do project a very sinister outlook on the world. It's almost as if they are encouraging people to stay home and communicate with everyone via modem. I personally have problems with people fostering that type of reclusive attitude. BW"}, {"response": 12, "author": "joshd", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (16:03)", "body": "Haven't seen the ads--what do they say?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (23:11)", "body": "I've missed these so far."}, {"response": 14, "author": "sunspot", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (11:43)", "body": "You people are spending too much time on the net. Packard Bell has spent about a Gazillion $ flooding the airwaves with these new ads. Bob"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (03:20)", "body": "I like the new Nike Mike ads. The one where Larry Bird doesn't sing. Nike knows about to do attention getting ads. Totally cool. No. But effective."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 27, 2002 (09:31)", "body": "Anyone catch the Mitsubishi Eclipse ad? It's teh one with the lady dancing with her arms. media conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 9, "subject": "Slate - Kinsey's Microsoft online magazine", "response_count": 10, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Thu, Jan  2, 1997 (03:32)", "body": "Terry, you shameless huckster! Michael Kinsley, isn't it? Not the same guy who wrote The Kinsey Report. But with a topic named that, there should be a stampede to check it out. The Hite if clever promotion..."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan  2, 1997 (04:35)", "body": "Really, folks should be beating a path to the door of this topic."}, {"response": 3, "author": "joshd", "date": "Sun, Jan  5, 1997 (06:55)", "body": "Huh-huh, you said \"beating.\" At any rate, I was all hyped up about Slate. Then I read it, and it turned out to be little more than the New Republic online. Call me old-fashioned, but I don't want to read a 2,000 word story online. Just don't. I've also noticed there is very little on there that relates directly to the Net or digital culture, which got me thinking--are such topics necessary? Nearly every other Net zine/hangout has some focus on talking about virtual this or digital that. Is Slate ignoring the revolution? Or getting beyond it?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan  5, 1997 (15:36)", "body": "Hmm, you know, I haven't been reading Slate lately. I know there have been a bunch of parody spinoffs. What's the best thing you've seen on Slate?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "joshd", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (04:02)", "body": "There was a pretty good piece trying to cut Stephen Jay Gould down to size, but like I said, way too long for an online piece, IMO."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (04:17)", "body": "What's your favorite online source of news, Josh?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "joshd", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (14:48)", "body": "I usually use Yahoo, which is customizable and gives you access to the Reuters wire. Tho sometimes that can be pretty slow, even at 28.8, and I use CNN's text-based wire service."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (12:49)", "body": "What's the all-in-one website called? Where you can get digests of all the other web news sources? I have it book marked at home."}, {"response": 9, "author": "joshd", "date": "Wed, Jan 22, 1997 (13:56)", "body": "Hmmm. You might be thinking of Pathfinder, though I\"m not sure (don't even know the URL for it)."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (04:20)", "body": "That's not it. I can almost pull it out of the memory banks, but not quite. media conference Main Menu"}]}]}