{"conf": "minds", "generated_at": "2026-04-26T08:00:02.954878Z", "threads": [{"num": 1, "subject": "Welcome", "response_count": 30, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "thalerd", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (08:32)", "body": "Looks fine."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (08:46)", "body": "Welcome to the ClearMinds conference. Welcome to lifeboat Spring. I'm Paul Terry Walhus, Austinite, I started this operation three years ago and it's been running pretty reliably. Please make yourself at home."}, {"response": 3, "author": "thalerd", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (12:55)", "body": "Testing for Harry Pike red text big font bondface italics Image:"}, {"response": 4, "author": "heather", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (14:11)", "body": "Terry and Dave, Thanks so much for your work, and for the insanely quick uptime. The Commons is not listing topics at the moment (all conspiracy theories welcomed!!), so I'm going to huddle over here for a bit. Any way to see who is around?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "thalerd", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (16:08)", "body": "Testing for Harry, one more time. red text big font boldface italics"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 19, 1997 (09:27)", "body": "Thanks Heather. We've added something new. Instant updates on each users conference page of the latest posts all around the system."}, {"response": 7, "author": "tkprit", "date": "Sat, Jun 21, 1997 (17:29)", "body": "another minds straggler here... I couldn't log on to eminds at all earlier (not responding)! but then I got on, and I couldn't follow the happenings. Oh, and when I posted some things, they weren't \"updated\" properly: the var ious conversations were listed as not having been updated since before my posts The new posts were there all right, but just not at the top of the topics lists as they should have been. Hence, who'd even see my posts? Real bummer. didn't like utne (I guess that's where they're lifeboating to? as I said, I couldn't follow the divergent FAQs). couldn't find river. so here I be! anyone into web developing here?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (11:31)", "body": "There are some folks into web developing. Is that what you're into? Minds is kind of going bonkers in the Commons conference and the conversation on the future has pretty much moved to the technos conference."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:53)", "body": "Where the heck did Thaler get that Howard bbq pic?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:09)", "body": "I made it... I left the link here that time I couldn't get anything to work it's on my server - doesn't howard look cute in that apron? but not as chic as I am looking over at Utne in nacy's purple dress!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:32)", "body": "A guy I ran across at Borders last night is making a living off his website and all he does there is collect morphs of famous folks, like Madonna. It's totally wacky and he's making a living with it. http://www.scoopy.net I believe."}, {"response": 12, "author": "mkwilson", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (01:20)", "body": "I'm here. I'm also here . This seems slow to me. I know it's not my connection, I'm on a fractional T-1."}, {"response": 13, "author": "mkwilson", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (01:20)", "body": "Hmm. how would I have scribbled that? Or hidden it?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "mkwilson", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (01:21)", "body": "I'm so HAPPY to see it only shows me recent responses. Quite a break from OverBoard."}, {"response": 15, "author": "mkwilson", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (01:23)", "body": "Hmm. I click on my name, and I get a mailto. I want a profile page. Also, how do I tell who's been here? Where's the participation statistics? And, to be a little mean.. How does this work?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "mkwilson", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (01:24)", "body": "That was SO cool! It caught my missing closing TABLE tag!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (07:07)", "body": "good morning Terry I am back as promised so sorry that all hell broke loose last night everyone came to see the house that harry and nod built at the exact same time I was suppossed to meet you guys here... I had promised nancy I would be the doorman over there as each person had to be added to the user list as they registered and e-mailed me their login names so besides running two browsers and seven conversations at once, I was also fielding email by the bushel basket! I will check that guys site out who makes the morphs oh, if only I could make even a small living doing this goofy shit... but I love it just the same before I came online last november, I did not even have a telephone for 8 years the web has changed my life in so many ways, and introduced me to so many cool people I would never have otherwise known! goint to scroll back through these topics real quick before I have to boot out of here to paint me old mum's cracked and peeling house... here is a cool celebrity morph I found"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:34)", "body": "It might be uncle-scoopy.net or unclescoopy.net or just scoopy.net. Both he and his wife quit their jobs to do this full time. And they both had good jobs. He was an overnight success. If Uncle Scoopy can do it, Harry Pike can surely do it."}, {"response": 19, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (11:10)", "body": "Is the Ask an Expert home away from home? I am interested in learning more about how to repair a cracked house by using paint. I have been very cautious about removing wallpaper or scraping paint inside or outside, in/on my early Charles Addams/Psycho-set Victorian, because of the possibility that the wallpaper and paint are holding the place together. But if Harry says it is okay to peel and scrape, I'll risk it. We need a topic called This Old Doghouse, for those of us who are trying to restore creaking monstrosities to period. Or even elipsis."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (12:14)", "body": "I'm actually communicating via the house conference with Lee Wallace, who is both my house remodeler and Peter Lewis right hand man. He's starting today on \"This Old Spring Office\". How apropos you should bring this up."}, {"response": 21, "author": "phoenix1", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:10)", "body": "Pardon me for just dropping in here... Eye am willing to create the reality which involves Electric Minds in a state of fiscal health, happiness, and prosperity. If enough of us perceive of this as a fully accepted reality, an absolute fact, then it will be so. We can easily attract this state into being if we collectively focus our thinking. In order to help the thought process solidify into Real Life, eye am suggesting that we CREATE A RITUAL in San Francisco, next week. We would need at least a dozen people to get a critical mass together -- Real Life, living, breathing, people in one place, at one time, of one mind... plugged into the bigger consciousness of the Electric Mind(s). If logic ain't werkin', dear friends, why not use ***MAGIC***??? Take a deep breath, and clear your mind. Anybody willing to join me?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "mikemad", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:45)", "body": "Greetings All! This seems like as good a place to say hi and pause a moment to grieve for EMinds. I'm in a particularly weird position, as I first logged on over there a mere three weeks ago. Here I was, a reporter (please hold the flames for now) with a longtime interest in virtual community, surfing through Rheingold's Brainstorms site and finding m yself at that smiling incarnation inviting me to register. I did, of course, and wandered around for awhile. I usually got stuck trying to figure out The Palace, but really enjoyed the conferences. Life got fairly complex for awhile, and I didn't log on for a couple weeks. Next thing I know, I get the email survey and I've gone into crisis mode for people I've hardly known for a month! I'm really glad people are getting organized, and that we will survive (we have no choice, you know). Tell me what to do, you veterans. I'm prepared to help! Many thanks to those who created this space, and to all those who keep Minds alive ... Mike in Madison"}, {"response": 23, "author": "phoenix1", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (14:02)", "body": "Well, eye did some crystal work last night... using a Real Life crystal that gave me, which is a lil' beauty. The feeling is that financial reinvigoration of Eminds in its current identity-mode is still a very distinct possibility. But we would first need to turn the prevailing tide of belief. Although eye am sure that, on one level, it might be easier to let it go (eye hear the liquidators are coming in tomorrow?)... the over-riding emotion is that certain forces could be easily rallied to divert that energy-flow of dissipation & closure into powerful regeneration. A wave is a powerful thing: you can either surf it into shore, or get tossed underwater. How are we collectively choosing to surf this wave? Where do we perceive this wave is taking us? Eye am quite willing to put my faith on the line in favour of an \"as is\" (i.e., this site) Eminds renaissance. But, as with anything, power output (and desired effect) increases exponentially when MORE THAN ONE person works on this. My personal, physical energy is low right now. Eye am in the very middle of my Circus of Joy cosmadelic tour of the USA thingo right now... just pulled into LA for some much-needed R&R. Feeling a bit ill, profoundly physically & psychically exhausted, and operating at 50% of regular capacity without my usual left brain function (i.e., my husband, who is back home in Australia) for the past 3 weeks. Eye am not whingeing about this state of affairs (after all, eye CREATED IT! Using magic! And here on Eminds, too!) but simply explaining that eye am not personally capable of pulling off such a big magic just by myself, re-birthing Eminds. Eye would need... You. And You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You... the more, the merrier. We would need at least a dozen people (more would be even better!) who are actively willing to gather in one place, at one time, and suspend their disbelief -- to CONSCIOUSLY FOCUS on seeing Eminds in vibrant financial & emotional health. With absolutely no doubt at all in our minds... To start, this means eye need at least 12 folks to personally contact me (eye'm currently on-line at , or phoneable in Long Beach, California on 562 433 2311), in order to get our perceptual ball rolling. Go on, do it do it do it. Whaddaya got to lose? At worst, you'll feel like a fool. At most, something wonderful might happen. Please believe me: eye fully understand that our entire Western Civilisation conditioning system has taught us that what eye am proposing is impossible, that it won't work... this alone will cause most people to fear even trying it, or even thinking about trying it. But all eye know is that it works. How did eye come to be here in the USA, in California even, when three weeks ago, in Australia, eye had no money, no plane ticket, no logical prospects of being here... YET EYE AM HERE???????? And if tomorrow, i.e., Wednesday, 25 June, 1997, is the absolute deadline/lifeline for Eminds, then eye am willing to perceive of this regeneration ritual happening tomorrow -- in San Francisco, if that is the collective feeling of where it should be. If eye am needed in San Francisco, then you may collectively desire me to be in San Francisco, simply WILL me there, and eye will just naturally flow towards the energy pull. That is the way this whole Circus of Joy thing has been working. Eye go where eye am needed, when eye am needed the most. If eye am needed in San Francisco, eye could be there in just a couple of hours. It's purely up to your collective decision... Eminds is very important to me, as eye am sure it is to others. It crosses my mind that perhaps this Eminds ritual is the real reason why the Circus of Joy was called to the USA. What do you think? Maybe, for me, this is where my Real Life meets my Virtual Life. As any of you who knows me knows, eye always have been big on that Real Life thing. Maybe here is where the cave wall meets the reflected shadow...? A disclaimer: eye have no special powers, nor do eye claim to. All that happened is that eye have been steadily catching glimpses, out of the corner of my eye, deep from within the shadows, of a way to play with energy, easily & effortlessly. My job is simply to hold up a great big mirror so that you can see these glimpses, too. With a mirror, we can see around corners in time & space. With a mirror, we can see... Ourselves. With a mirror, we can look into our own eyes, and into others' eyes simultaneously. Everybody alive has an equally-important cosmic job. If eye am a mirror-holder, then, who are you? What is your cosmic job? If you feel called to help create the Eminds ritual with me, then you will surely be tasting your true identity. This, above all, eye look forward to experiencing... true identities. One final note; a request: if we collectively choose to create this regeneration ritual, if we choose to rebirth Eminds together, then eye ask two things: *That the process be effortless, flowing, "}, {"response": 24, "author": "hummie", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (16:32)", "body": "i dunno. the concept shot itself in the foot from the start. just reform the pastry ball and reroll, i think..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "thalerd", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (22:15)", "body": "Michael, usually Yapp has buttons to hide and delete (aka scribble) your responses along with the response headers, but it looks like terry removed them a while ago. (The system administrator can customize the headers to look like anything they want.)"}, {"response": 26, "author": "abosio", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (22:23)", "body": "I just wanted to pop-in and say hello. I was a member at eminds but I haven't been active there since near the beginning. Howard tunred me onto the site the weekend before the launch in a reply to an email I sent him praising his books. ;) It wasn't long before the place was kinda overwhelming, and I regretfully stopped participating. When I heard the new about the site going dark I was saddened none the less. Besides, I love those cool icons. But, alas, I want to commend those volunteering their time, their lives, to organize an effort to save the community. Reading through the conferences today I was excited, amazed, and inspired by all the work being done. Thanx!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (22:43)", "body": "We'll put these back (scribble and hide)."}, {"response": 28, "author": "tarat", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (22:35)", "body": "So, hello...i am visiting from electricpeople.flash.alteredminds see...i expect things to commence but since life is flux, here i am that tricky transwarp flux capaciter has been at it again and caused a warp in the time and space continuum nice place (terry) sorry about the pie in the eye the other day...it's never safe to stand between harry and a flying fuckleberry pie \ufffd tara"}, {"response": 29, "author": "BOLONEY", "date": "Thu, Jun 26, 1997 (05:37)", "body": "THE BEST MIND TRIP YOU'LL EVER EXPERIENCE CAN BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE, PARTICULARLY IN THE BOOK OF ROMANS 12:2. YOU'LL BE SURPRISED AT ITS ETERNAL EFFECTS!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "I would like to invite all visitors of this conference to the International Conflicts conference here on the Spring: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/InternationalConflicts/all This new conference is dedicated to the disputes between groups all over the world, be that social, cultural, political or ethnical differences. minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 13, "subject": "PACKRATS PIT 2", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "maddog", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (18:07)", "body": "big hole! minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 14, "subject": "Virtual Communities: who, where and why?", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (14:09)", "body": "A good place to start out to anwer the question that is the subject of this topic is David R Woolley's site. Do a search for David R Woolley and treat yourself to the greatest who, why and what of virtual communities ever assembled in one place."}, {"response": 2, "author": "Mackenzie", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (23:15)", "body": "A good book to read \"Internet Culture\" edited by David Porter."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (08:49)", "body": "What are some of the things David Porter talks about in this book?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (07:47)", "body": "I have found an excellent link to a thesis on virtual communities."}, {"response": 5, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (07:48)", "body": "Darn :) Everywhere does its html tags differently (or so it seems). Let's try again. http://www.vcn.bc.ca/people/nkg/ma-thesis/"}, {"response": 6, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (07:49)", "body": "got it :) minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 16, "subject": "people", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 30, 1997 (00:16)", "body": "Some comments addressed to folks on eminds: I agree with (dillinger) that by prepping the lifeboats too much that the big ship might crash into the iceberg. And despite all my lifeboating, I'm a much bigger fan of keeping this ship afloat. It's the mothership of all virtual communities. (ranav) actually said I was gaining points, I read that somewhere. Teresa from Portugal welcome, you gain points with me because you know (dillinger). I don't know squat about (dillinger) 's history. All I know is I like him in the here and now . I have been pumping up Spring not to draw people away from the current community but rather to rather to let folks know of its existence (in the possible event that minds darkens ) that there is a place without committees, rules, constitutions, boy scout oaths , and hierarchies that they can populate and be free. Howard's comment about withdrawing from online conflict gets an A+. Getting in fights puts a hole in your bucket (or a bite in your ear), so take (ruthm) 's advice about bullies (shift4paradi) I believe I may have addressed your concerns already. Would you mind emailing me sometime so we can take this offline? I'm feeling a bit like Howard, that you're preaching to me."}, {"response": 2, "author": "semtex", "date": "Mon, Jun 30, 1997 (09:25)", "body": "hello, terry. yes, i am from austin. at least for the past 25 years, and then some. michael d. morrison -- doggerel@hotmail.com -- ok?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 30, 1997 (11:16)", "body": "semtex, do you have any observations about the people on electric minds? About what's going on there now? minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 17, "subject": "Nerds need mates", "response_count": 23, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 14, 1997 (21:24)", "body": "People are precious. Nerds need a life outside of their companies. How can they find someone?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 15, 1997 (09:46)", "body": "There are many female nerds too and I think they have a more difficult time. I find techie geeks, engineer nerds attractive. I like the intellectual stimulation and the intensity at which they work. Often it mean they will be just as intense in other areas."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 15, 1997 (13:38)", "body": "I didn't mean to leave out female nerds also! Of course. I may have mentioned this somewhere, but there was a Nightline special on the new lifestyles of geeks in Silicon Valley last night, and one of the techie guys whose pockets are stuffed with stock options said, \"I haven't had a date in 6 months, but maybe someone will marry me when I'm rich and 42 years old.\" (he was probably 41 years old). Basically, a lot of guys are dedicating their lives to their companies, their missions, and their ideals and getting richly rewarded with stocks with the companies go public. So they miss out on their social life. Of course, not always the case, but it happens a lot. They did point out that the companies are trying to make life more tolerable, even enjoyable, since the company *is* life for their employees. Since Bill Gates got married, I hear Microsoft no longer discourages married employees and they have more of a \"family\" atmosphere. And it's not uncommon to find folks getting massages and onsite dental and medial care and to see workout areas."}, {"response": 4, "author": "Estaben", "date": "Thu, Nov 27, 1997 (17:59)", "body": "Why should the 'geeks' get special treatment. What about all the married guys who come home and get hen-pecked. Hell... They'd probably rather be a 'geek'."}, {"response": 6, "author": "flowerchild", "date": "Thu, Nov 27, 1997 (23:34)", "body": "THERE's someone out there for everyone GOOD LUCK EVERYONE NEEDS SOMEONE FOR THEM"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec  8, 1997 (18:12)", "body": "needs?????"}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Dec  9, 1997 (18:23)", "body": "sorry, got my panties in a knot on that one I guess. And to avoid a repeat, I refained from wearing any today."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec  9, 1997 (22:45)", "body": "Are you saying you wore no panties today for real?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (19:47)", "body": "Yeah, I thought that's what she said."}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (19:10)", "body": "Good decoding Paul! Nice thought WER! I'm sure we could've gotten in all kinds of potentially difficult situations!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (19:03)", "body": "*smile* Actually I was thinking more of sink heigth, counterspace..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (18:36)", "body": "Can I take the self-tour? You can just lie back, close your eyes and tell me if I've found all the good places!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (10:16)", "body": "Reciprocation is never a problem."}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (14:26)", "body": "You were still asleep or at least there are no bad vibes coming from me! Maybe suggestive, slightly dirty ones..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (18:42)", "body": "*clicking tongue noises* you've been a bad, bad boy... c'mere and I'll show you the consequences. Lie still. Don't move. No! You can't touch that. Only I get to play! You've been bad. *assorted attentions to nooks and crannies* Are you feeling sorry now. No? I guess I'll have to really teach you a lesson now. *grin* Close your eyes."}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan  8, 1998 (21:10)", "body": "woo woo! My faculties were all intact that day, weren't they?!?!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (09:13)", "body": "?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (17:01)", "body": "just lost the thread and was (am still) confused."}, {"response": 32, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (09:12)", "body": "maybe we should start a little nerd matchmaking then!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (09:43)", "body": "Yep!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (17:05)", "body": "speaking of matchmaking... how are all them women??? The ones you keep stringin along!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (19:54)", "body": "Oh, you mean those?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (15:28)", "body": "i forget how many now. minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 18, "subject": "I'd like to ask ________ out on a date", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:50)", "body": "No way, I won't tell!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (19:37)", "body": "Oh, come on, tell us!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (19:43)", "body": "Why did this have to show up now?! A month ago, I could not have told you, but it might have been possible...*sigh* minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 2, "subject": "checking to see . . .", "response_count": 26, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "heather", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (14:27)", "body": "taking an opportunity to test my HTML skills in relative quiet . ."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (12:03)", "body": "Regarding html, we support most tags here. Except those that we place on an exclusion list. I can publish that list of tags if you like."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:07)", "body": "I'm expecting the distinguished Mr. (maddog) to come by at 11 and put out some incredible html. Welcome maddog"}, {"response": 4, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:07)", "body": ""}, {"response": 5, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:10)", "body": "Hi Terry - Heather here yet?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:11)", "body": "hey hey greetings dog and all"}, {"response": 7, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:11)", "body": "Terry, is there any way to see who is present here?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:15)", "body": "o.k. I got ERROR: Missing ending I tag when I tried to make large red bold italicized fonts"}, {"response": 9, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:32)", "body": "A couple questions on hosting tools. Can hosts: * Sribble posts * Rename threads * Move threads around? What about user control? Scribbling, hiding, cross-referencing?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:40)", "body": "you can scribble posts. you can rename threads I don't think you can move threads around, you mean like change the number of topic? If you have to have this feature, we will make it happen. If we don't have it, we'll make it happen."}, {"response": 11, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:42)", "body": "Terry, I don't actually know what ungodly powers the hosts need (any hosts who pass through, please leave your requests for features here.) For all new eMinders coming through, leave your site specific questions and requests here and try out all your skills."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:51)", "body": "Who should I set up as hosts here? You? maddog? Anyone want to host this conference?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:10)", "body": "well, I am kind of busy filling in for nancy right this second, as things turn out - why did everyone have to rush to Utne at the exacy stroke of 11 p.m. EST, I do not know - but sure, Terry Is anyone here who is also at Utne in a second browser (bowser) like me? also, I am still wondering why the font tags are not working for me - I see those fonts that dave and you posted - instruction?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:10)", "body": "exacy? you can tell I've been awake for like 40 hours straight hahahaha"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:25)", "body": "I'm in three bowsers, one for utne, one for minds and I'm here via my bowser and via telnet."}, {"response": 16, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (07:18)", "body": "well, as I said, my computer is an abacus, so... fell off the net two or three times during all that activity a divot for tara:"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:35)", "body": "Fell off the net? You're resilient though. You keep bouncing back."}, {"response": 18, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (12:02)", "body": "Sorry I didn't make it to this thread earlier. I find this exploration rivetting (but without the noise). But the wood screw-- just a nice extra touch. We have had some good discussions of TaraTwain's trademark Divots of Desire. I kept dispelling the romantic aura by asserting, They're only Yen signs, f'r'evvins sake! Those with handyperson background said they are wood screws. Tarabella would have none of it. Well, a couple of days ago I e'd her and sent her some \ufffd (Alt+numeric 0165) signs. Our delightful Wasp Lady replied, quoting and remarking out parts of my message. Lo and behold, my divot/wood screw characters had been translated to the word for the sign, as her mail client (?) understood it. Said \"yen yen yen\" in the reply. Well, we do have to get our poet laureate over here. Meanwhile, perhaps we can find the CyberTherapist to explain why desire, yen and screw symbols seem interchangeable. There must be an extremely obscure reason, at which I could not even guess."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (12:15)", "body": "Who is the aforementioned poet laureate?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (20:23)", "body": "Why, that would be TaraTwain, aka Tarabella, aka The Wasp Lady, who likes to center her poetic posts and decorate them with divots of desire. Dear me, Terry, don't you got no culture? We need to get all the pomes done by Tara and Ginny and the dog and a few others, at EM (Commons, Flash) and produce an anthology, a chubby volume of verse."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:49)", "body": "Tara and GinnyGal. Cool."}, {"response": 22, "author": "PACKRAT", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (22:05)", "body": "SCURRY SCURRY SCRATCH SCRATCH OH LOOK LIGHT HI IM PACKRAT I FOLOWED THE LOUD FOOT PRINTS HERE HOPE U DONT MIND PLUG HOWARD"}, {"response": 23, "author": "tarat", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (22:47)", "body": "gosh (drymartini) yer makin' me blush okay here's the real story behind the divots of desire really this is the authorized version dry's version is one and its true but mine is a story of love and lust and desire and bullets yes, divots were mere bullets in the beginning i have a mac and had the habit of using bullets for dividers instead of periods \ufffd a bullet is option-8 \ufffd so one day i was wandering around bulleting and fattymoon asked me what those strange things were i thought he was kidding i figured anybody knew what a bullet was... so i rather flippantly replied that they were \"Divots of Desire\" Of course, what he saw was a yen sign i saw a bullet people kept asking me what they were so i kept replying that they were divots finally fatty asked me to describe what i saw so i said it looked like a centered dot and he said it looked like a wood screw then glenb figured out that the interfaces translated them differently sometime around february something happened and all my divots were turned into wood screws suddenly i could see what everyone else could see all along and i hated them but eventually i sort of came to like them i still like bullets but i used screws for divots if that makes sense and dry really likes my divots...you may call them yen signs if you so desire but to me they are always divots of desire. tarat aka sometimes tarabella"}, {"response": 24, "author": "soup", "date": "Thu, Jun 26, 1997 (01:00)", "body": "Howdy, gang. Terry, is Yapp a free to developers software?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "soup", "date": "Thu, Jun 26, 1997 (01:02)", "body": "Also, my mailto from \"soup\" goes to soup@spring.com How would I get that mail? And can it be changed to my own email address?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 26, 1997 (08:17)", "body": "You can change your mailto: address or you can set up a .forward file to mail it to your other address. And Yapp 1.3 is freeware but the version we use with the web interface is buyware. And welcome Tom! minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 3, "subject": "What kind of community would you like minds.org to be?", "response_count": 17, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:14)", "body": "Yes, I thought this was an interesting post. Do you understand the technical specifics of it? How could someone log into all the systems at once?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:33)", "body": "I am currently here and at Utne - at the same time because people keep pounding on the door there to have me let them in, and I have to slip into nancy's purple party dress and sensible shoes to run down and throw open the eGate for each and every new arr ival, so please bear with me if I disappear from time to time"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:42)", "body": "The maddog has landed I see. Can you suggest some good topics to add here maddog? I created a few and Heather has created two with nearly identical names. Are you up for topic creation, mad one?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:46)", "body": "Harry is topic creation czar. I defer to him."}, {"response": 5, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:49)", "body": "What is this disappearing act? Sort of fading before our eyes, then reappearing. Why, it's the Cheshire Dog! Good thing you have three heads, Cerberus. One for each instance of your bowser browser. Just making a brief visit here to see what has changed and whassa happnin'. Think I'd better sign out now and see you guys later. Oh yes, I think the de-centralized idea has some merit. One advantage is that if one plug gets pulled, there are some other basins in our sink. Or whatever. (Hate the feeling of being flushed.) I would rather see us not have to re-invent the wheel. We can be Re-Minds, and we can be that anywhere or here and there. Actually, we can be that without convening a constitutional convention and then ratifying the blamed thing and electing a congre ss and all that foo. See you guys later."}, {"response": 6, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:52)", "body": "Checking out . . . I have to surrender the TV to my family. I'll check back in sporadically tomorrow."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:57)", "body": "Wow, someone accessing on webtv ? Thanks for checking in Heather. drymartini, isn't the sink metaphor kind of a lowering of the water metaphor standard. Is the next virtual community going to be the Sink?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:59)", "body": "phew, this is confusing Terry things are nuts at Utne still and I just fell flat on my face off the net..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (07:25)", "body": "I really like the idea of many seperate locations Terry, and don't see why eminds can not migrate to many different sites and platforms... when you looked around at Utne, you probably noticed the irreverant fashion that nod and I set things up - it was just a glorified epeeps really - now I am sure that offended all the techno weenie anti dreck and drivel types, but hey, I am not going to lo se any more sleep over that - I didn't see any of them staying up all goddam night with us helping design the place. so like heather said, we will probably wipe these test slates clean anyway - who would want to hang out at a place designed by such a twisted team as me and Thompson anyways - hahahaha do you guys get The Red Green Show down there in Texas?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:37)", "body": "No, but I'll add the redgreen show to my hotlist. I haven't even been able to find your place on utne. You'll have to post some clear directions how to get there. Because I want to post it on http://www.minds.org which I may be setting up today."}, {"response": 11, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (12:49)", "body": "Sorry, Terry. But no one has used Swamp, so far as I know. How do you feel about Fountain? Fount? Font? Geyser? Aquaduct? Freshet? Here in Pennsy we have creeks, and the authentic rural pronunciation is \"crick.\" A creek is something a spring becomes after it has been out of the ground a while and traveled a ways and been joined by other little streams until it has become quite i mpressive, and capable of supporting life. Some don't have names. Gummint documents refer to them as \"unnamed tributary\" or \"nameless tributary.\" I think we need to name them all. Another local term for a stream is \"run.\" Or even \"spring run.\" I have christened a few. \"Nylon Run.\" \"Walk Don't Run.\" \"Crick Creek.\" \"Broken Spring.\" I could go on, but this is probably enough for today's class. Or even a little more. Another watery place is called a Watergate. Comes from way back, is mentioned in the Bible. Has that one been used? My Sink analogy was based on only the most elegant, multi-basin, swinging high-fawcet, brushed stainless steel type, with a built-in garbage disposal. We need some divine guidance here. Let us spray."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (13:53)", "body": "Let us spray."}, {"response": 13, "author": "doug", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (17:02)", "body": "How about the puddle portal or just the puddle. Actually I think Spring is great! MindSpring would be good. I'm new, forgive me if these are old suggestions. What flavor, what presence! Truly a taste beyond the evian. What was the question again!? DryMartini must be tipsy to spill all that free will into the collective bathtub, you know, the one with the rubber stopper. Sorry, I havent been much help! but at least I jumped off....again."}, {"response": 14, "author": "sysop", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 1997 (21:49)", "body": "I think the folks in Atlanta have the name mindspring sewed up. They're one of the largest isps in the country. Thanks for the great gif, Doug. I've had no end of ribbing about the spermy look it has."}, {"response": 15, "author": "doug", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (16:39)", "body": "Life begets life!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (17:21)", "body": "There were also some references to oil gushers. All in fun!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (20:48)", "body": "Can Electric Minds be distributed over several systems? What do you thin? minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 4, "subject": "Check in .. .", "response_count": 35, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:27)", "body": "Heather, this is the second checking in topic. Why not create several different topics with different subjects that would be relevant to mindfolk?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:30)", "body": "Terry, I was trying to leave the first topic as a practice one, and this one for introductions. Actually, we'll probably have to clean up and make something more sensical out of this."}, {"response": 3, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:37)", "body": "Ahhh! The bracing scent of heather. Just checking in as promised. Perhaps this is not the topic to do that in, so I'll check a few more doors and corridors. I wish the dog would bark more loudly so I could find him. We legally blind folks depend so much o n our faithful guide dogs."}, {"response": 4, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:39)", "body": "Greetings drymartini!! The dog is running back and forth between here and his new Czarship over at Utne (frankly, the power has gone completely to his head . . . or tail . . . and we're having a hard time getting out of Nancy's high heels."}, {"response": 5, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:40)", "body": "over here drymartini just over this rise..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:44)", "body": "If you like and with your consent of course, I can rename those topics for you Heather. Up to you. drymartini are you a topic creator type? We need some topioca pudding."}, {"response": 7, "author": "heather", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:48)", "body": "I wouldn't worry about it too much. My guess is that we'll want to wipe the slate clean and start again if we offically populate. Just a guess."}, {"response": 8, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:49)", "body": "hahaha so why do the standard eminds font tags not work here?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:50)", "body": "how do I make large red bold italicized letters that say I got post # 9"}, {"response": 10, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:51)", "body": "also, I see a little slippage with no warning..."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:59)", "body": "What are the standard eminds font tags. We can institute slippage notificatoin pretty easily if that's needed."}, {"response": 12, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:25)", "body": "how can I write them? I will just get an error message and it won't post I will email them I need to stay in one topic here, I can not keep up UTNE is swarming with people... aarrrrgggghhh oh, I broke a nail!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:31)", "body": "I responded to your email. You broke a nail? Were you pounding on the keyboard too hard? What happened dog?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:35)", "body": "pretty big font kinda big let's try a net link one of my personal faves"}, {"response": 15, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:35)", "body": "cool fibrous babies, yum!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:54)", "body": "Someone wrote on minds that we're kind slow here. Graphics tend to do that. But are you seeing a slow connection dog?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "ginnygal", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:30)", "body": "Hi...just checking in!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:33)", "body": "wicked... I have to go now Paul I will come back tomorrow or Tuesday during the day when shit is not so hectic I will make some topics and screw around more leisure-like I promised nancy I would fill in for her at Utne, and it was unfortunate that everything went down at once tonight - I satill have people posting like mad over there - come on over if you want - you are on the list as spring just click edit hotlist and add electriCity - I do like the idea of letting people go anywhere and everywhere - this site did run much slower for me than utne though. I do feel badly that I had to be two places at once and will return for more testing, wi thout so much distraction. - thanks for being here and answering questions for me."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:33)", "body": "Hi ginnygal! Do you have any topics you'd like to see here? What is your favoirte topic on Electric Minds?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:33)", "body": "hey ginny!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:34)", "body": "I just posted and got this dog: Ok to enter this response? y Warning: a comment slipped in ahead of yours at 18! So slippage reporting works on our telnet interface. Gie us time, we'll have it going on the web."}, {"response": 22, "author": "gblank", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (04:45)", "body": "Hi, kids. It's me. \"glenb\" was taken, so I'm \"gblank\" here. It's one of my alternate e-mail addresses. Terry, I'm getting really slow responses from LA. I can run a traceroute if you want. \"E-minds font tags\" are just standard HTML <FONT> tags. Let's see: Big Red Letters"}, {"response": 23, "author": "gblank", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (04:48)", "body": "Welp, that worked. Is there an easier way to escapify HTML tags if we want to talk about them? I used &lt; and &gt; in the post above, but that's awfully awkward. By the way, the post box runs off the edge of my screen. (Does Yapp re-wrap text, I wonder?)"}, {"response": 24, "author": "gblank", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (04:48)", "body": "Looks like."}, {"response": 25, "author": "gblank", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (05:05)", "body": "Silly me. Not using PRE for the message text here, so of course it rewraps. But that also means the posted text will never run off the right side of the screen, either (unlike the post box)."}, {"response": 26, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (07:39)", "body": "so sorry to miss you glensei (bowing lowly...)"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:38)", "body": "Sure run a tracerout and post it. We can set up controls to wrap text if you like. If you access us in UNIX you can use your favorite UNIX text editor. Whoopeee right?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (20:36)", "body": "Akshully, Terry, the background or wallpaper at the site looks kinda like tapioca pudding. Week-old tapioca pudding, forgotten in the back of the fridge. Now, I'm not saying it isn't attractive. It can be quite pretty. You just don't want to eat the stuff . Only maddog licks the screen, when he seea a particularly appetizing font. So even if that is moldy tapioca pudding, I don't think it will give us anything life threatening."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:50)", "body": "No it's topioca."}, {"response": 30, "author": "tarat", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 1997 (22:58)", "body": "this is my second checking in. i think it looks like fake leather myself. but i really like the buttons and the font used on them."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 26, 1997 (08:18)", "body": "If someone has a better background, we'll use it or we'll go to white."}, {"response": 32, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (02:38)", "body": "Hey Terry, I'll send you some new flavors (bkgnds) so drymartini will mix well I would be interested in hearing what the \"Martini\" thought of the sperm whalehole logo??"}, {"response": 33, "author": "nod", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (17:52)", "body": "yo. checking in. better late than too late."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul  3, 1997 (07:09)", "body": "Welcome Don! What are your abiding interests and passions?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "muho", "date": "Sat, Jul  5, 1997 (18:13)", "body": "Aloha, Just passin' thru. minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 5, "subject": "What's in a name?", "response_count": 7, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (23:00)", "body": "boat.org and mindfolks.com are other names we have registered to make available to the wandering Electric Minds tribe."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (01:12)", "body": "We'll be setting up all of the above names plus http://www.minds.org as pointers to Electric Minds, Utne, this site and any other relevant websites. This will be a so called static web page."}, {"response": 3, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (07:42)", "body": "I always assumed that static was bad for computers... heheheh"}, {"response": 4, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (07:44)", "body": "hey Terry, do you know how to make these little animated gifs like that winking wolf, appear in a larger size??? I've seen it done, in fact Miriam did it to that very wolf on eminds once, but I forgot all about asking her if she did it on purpose, or by accident..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:39)", "body": "OH gosh, I'm not that heavy an html maven. I've done it but I don't remember how. I'd just look at some code. We have an animated gif I did at http://spring.com (note, not http://www.spring.com ) and I may have resized it there. Just go there and view my source. Hope that helps ya."}, {"response": 6, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (19:13)", "body": "rE-minds rEminders"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (23:48)", "body": "To enlarge it (I think this will work, I know you can shrink them this way) change the heighth and width parameters inside the image tag. I know this is message is quite late, but... WER minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 6, "subject": "Will communities survive?", "response_count": 10, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "q7z4tp", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (03:08)", "body": "are we about to witness the demise of a grass-roots many-to-many open internet to a corporatist sponsor-driven monopolist-media model a la couch-potatoe passive consumer? Is this another story of a new technology like radio being an *empowering* medium f or the masses, to be co-opted and cannibalized by the Corporate monster? Are the bean-counters and suits finally destroying any meaningful world of mind-to-mind unmediated communication? If the possible demise of electric minds is the thin end of this Or ellian free-market wedge, then God help us all!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (07:58)", "body": "nice post plato... gawd, I hope the hell not eminds has changed my life for the better, but my two index fingers shudder at the thought of having to keep in touch with all those folks by email ! besides, I would miss getting to do really weird stuff like this:"}, {"response": 3, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:01)", "body": "well not that actually - I can make broken graphics links anywhere... hahahahaha let's see what did I do wrong - oh {{duh}} worldpath.nothin - dwee! one more try then:"}, {"response": 4, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:03)", "body": "so, how would I scribble that bad one?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:05)", "body": "nice post plato... gawd, I hope the hell not eminds has changed my life for the better, but my two index fingers shudder at the thought of having to keep in touch with all those folks by email ! besides, I would miss getting to do really weird stuff like this:"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:40)", "body": "You're so good a wierd stuff, I think you should give Uncle Scoopy a run for the money."}, {"response": 7, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (09:38)", "body": "weird is my middle name!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (09:39)", "body": "seeya!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (19:23)", "body": "Still checking this place out a little more. Terry ordered tapioca pudding, or else a bland topic. How about one called Bland Ambition? Then we get Al Gore to host it?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (20:00)", "body": "Good idea, I like Al. minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 7, "subject": "How can we fix you up?", "response_count": 75, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:14)", "body": "It looks fine to me Terry - Utne has a much more bland look the main diffewrence seems to be speed - I thought it was because I had two browsers going, so I dropped out of utne for a bit, but I am still getting real slow loads here - in fact I did it all three ways - both, just here, and just there - in every case - things work much faster over at utne I have an ancient 486 w/ 14,400 modem, so I am sure that does not help, but some folks over there with 33 modems said it was much slower here too - any ideas why? and what about those colored fonts? I frankliy like the idea of going everywhere - it will give the community more elbow room - everything is everything on the web anyway, no? but I am having a bear of a time waiting for my box to respond here, compared to ze utne..."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:28)", "body": "What's the rul to get directly to the minds place on utne?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "gblank", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (05:07)", "body": ""}, {"response": 4, "author": "gblank", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (05:08)", "body": "Woops. Wrong button."}, {"response": 5, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:12)", "body": "I don't have that URL - I have just been going to www.utne.com and logging in that way - {{duh}} I'm no tech wizard let me take this post to tell you that I am quite pleased with the setup here I thought before that I couldn't do pictures and stuff, but now that you and mr thaler have enlightened me - I see much better now - thanks (adjusting my electrical-taped geek spectacles) how would I scribble a post? or hide one? I saw a hidden heather post somewhere, but couldn't figure that out..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:42)", "body": "Ya know I've been doing this site for 3 years and no one has ever asked how to scribbe a post before. It can be done, gosh, I'll have to ask Dave Thaler. If you send an email to yapp@umich.edu it gets posted in our yapp conference and winds up in Daves mailbox at the same time. Will you pop him a note about that please? And let me know the answer."}, {"response": 7, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (09:33)", "body": "sure thing it's not like I want to scribble a lot, but I would be interested in hiding/getting rid of rotten graphics links, etc."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (10:28)", "body": "We'll get it with Dave Thalers help."}, {"response": 9, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (19:30)", "body": "Must be an ID hack up there. Surely not maddog stating that he is not really interested in scribbling posts, not he, why, he wouldn't scribble unless it was a dire emergency. There should be a scribble feature IRL, seems to me. Lots of things I've wished I could unsay. And in print media, it would be nice to unprint rather than issue a correction, clarification or retraction..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "ignatz", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:40)", "body": "Yeah. Must be a ringer. Maddog not really interested in scribbling posts? Hi, y'all. Slow for me, but I'm on a 28.8 modem at the moment. Let's see about"}, {"response": 11, "author": "ignatz", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:42)", "body": "Well, putting drymartini in angle brackets made her disappear. Sorry Martha. Uh, what were we talking about? Preview would be nice to have."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:51)", "body": "We actually have an intercepter that allows you to preview if you put a bad html code in. You want preview option? We could do that."}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (00:07)", "body": "Just popping in to expand my horizons. Seems I might have been a little late. WER"}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (09:20)", "body": "I keep coming here because I forget we're not talking about the mind buried somewhere in my brain. Today it could certainly use some \"fixing up\""}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (00:00)", "body": "stacey; it's getting to the point where the three of us should just have our own conference. So, what's wrong? WER"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (00:40)", "body": "Really, what can we do to fix you up?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (12:43)", "body": "Just dealing with some major frustrations at this point. I love teaching but I'm having difficulty with happiness in my job and, as you might expect, it is negatively impacting other areas of my life. Basically the inefficiency, lost vision and beauracracy of the school district is really dragging me down. The low pay and lack of professionalism doesn't help. I don't want to drag you both down with me but if you have any suggestions, I'd be willing to listen. Right now my plan is to buy myself a bunch of flowers and get to work on my resume. A beer (w/ chocolate) probably would help too!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (13:14)", "body": "You've hit on all the major cures. How about a change to a more enlightened school district, did you teach around Austin when you were here? Are there other job options where you are?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "donnal", "date": "Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (19:23)", "body": "Are there any interested parents involved? You don't want to unload on them for sure, but it might help pick things up a bit if you can get support from them."}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Oct 18, 1997 (00:04)", "body": "Hey, a different voice in here. Hi, donnal! Couldn't bring me down much further, stacey. Sounds much like me at my job at the moment. If'n ya find something that works, let me know. WER"}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (09:24)", "body": "Donnal: tons of interested, concerned parents involved! They are the ones coming to me with their frustrations about the school system. The difficult part is, I can do everything in my power but once that child leaves my class- room, I've got very little say in their educational game plan and that is the response left to give the parents."}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (09:29)", "body": "WER: Sorry to hear you are dealing with similar issues. At this point, I am lokking into other districts but which is worse... the devil you know or the devil you don't know? I am also looking into different careers. Passion is important in my life and the two career related passions I have had were in education and journalism. Right now I'm considering technical writing and a training position for a larger company (large to me spells \"room to grow up and move laterally if so desired\"). I will keep you updated and let you know how successful I am. My philosophy is that you spend the MAJORITY of your life at work and life is too short to spend it doing something you don't love (or in a place that makes you miserable) Happy wishes for your day at work today!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (18:12)", "body": "Did you like your job in Austin? At the place where we worked?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Oct 21, 1997 (10:45)", "body": "I felt like once the learning curve dropped off, I was settling for mediocrity face it, the whole company was pretty mediocrity based. They wanted to be the first and best until it came time to mantainence! I liked the people and I like the technology aspect. I really would've rather worked with NetRabbit though."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 21, 1997 (11:07)", "body": "Yeah, I wish we would have hired you back then. But, water under the dam. Do you see yourself working back in high tech for a startup company?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (12:35)", "body": "Yes, I could see that. At this point I see more potential in working for a larger company that leaves room for lateral and upward movement. Learning curve is important to me and I like the high tech field... always growing."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (20:02)", "body": "Startups are exciting places to work, especially when everyone believes that they have the \"thing\" that's going to change your life. And then there are those stock options. But nowadays, a company only has a year or two to make or break it, unlike the companies in days of yore when the period was five or more years. It can be a real roller coaster. Rewarding and frustrating at the same time."}, {"response": 28, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (23:24)", "body": "So, what skills, familiarities, languages, etcetera, do you think are currently the most necessary to switch to the computer world? WER"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (03:07)", "body": "Nowadays, I'd say the quickest path would be to know Windows NT 4.0 Server and Workstation inside and out. It helps to know TCP/IP networking, UNIX (AIX, BSDI, Solaris, SunOS, etc.), C++ is a good language to know, SQL Server, IIS (the webserver used by NT), Microsoft Access 97, the list goes on. A lot of companies are looking for Internet/web saavy folks who can build dynamic websites. I'll try and get you a more complete checklist."}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (09:30)", "body": "It's the \"everyone help stacey switch careers\" conference site. Everyone is welcome!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (11:18)", "body": "Hey, it's the web site of the day. By the way I found an ftp program you might be interested in: AbsoluteFTP \"http://cws.internet.com/img/absolftp.gif\" height = 34 width = 34 border = 0> Clients that pattern themselves after the Windows Explorer interface have inundated the FTP scene as of late, yet a new entrant like AbsoluteFTP can still make quite an impact despite following the trend. Unlike most of the competition, AbsoluteFTP presents an Explorer-like view of both the remote and the local directories. This allows you to easily drag and drop files between the sites after either tiling or cascading the sites' windows. You can even launch multiple sessions simultaneously and carry out file operations on different sites concurrently. Like CuteFTP, AbsoluteFTP gives you an option of either quickly connecting to a site (via the QuickConnect icon) or selecting from one of the many sites listed in the Connection Manager. The Connection Manager comes pre-configured with more than 200 useful and cool FTP sites, and you can also add your own sites using the intuitive Session Wizard. Another cool feature in AbsoluteFTP is that it imports your file types from Explorer, so when you want to view a file on a remote site AbsoluteFTP will automatically run the application that is associated with the file. Additional features in AbsoluteFTP include caching of remote host directory listings, auto-resume for interrupted file transfers Network Neighborhood support, an abort option, auto hide of dot files, PASV support, and many of the same features found in the Explorer client (like multiple layout views, quick sorting options, and property tags for files). While AbsoluteFTP does sport several features that you won't find in the competition, several important features that you will find in other FTP clients are noticeably absent in AbsoluteFTP. The most glaring omissions are file find capabilities, site synchronization tools, a configurable toolbar, remote file editing capabilities, firewall/proxy support, options for changing the attributes of a file, support for macros and custom keyboard commands, site bookmarks, Keep Alive functionality, and advanced configuration options. Pros: Allows you to browse multiple sites simultaneously, attractive interface, inexpensive price tag Cons: Lacks many critical features that are found in competitive FTP clients For the latest information on AbsoluteFTP , check out: \"http://cws.internet.com/32ftp.html#absolftp\">http://cws.internet.com/32ftp.html#absolftp Sorry, I got excited about the prospect of kitchenmanager getting his content up on his website. What was the name of that website of yours again?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (13:36)", "body": "Me or stacey... Ok, back to you, stacey, or not. I've heard web design, Java, and networking were the big three... WER"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (21:14)", "body": "Add security/electronic commerce and you have the big 4."}, {"response": 34, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (21:23)", "body": "Back to other stuff... Installed crt today, and an updated hyperterminal, still won't let me in. ????? WER"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (06:47)", "body": "Hmm, you may want to call me and I'll talk you through some things. I tried dropping you an email from my cell phone while I was running around Austin today. My cellphone emails tend to be very brief. I suspect you may need to look in to AOHell's optional tcp/ip \"stack\". You'll find this on their Internet section. This would let you run normal, everyday garden variety apps like everyone else. Otherwise, go for a local Austin ISP like BCSI. They're at Spicewood Springs and Mesa Drive on the northwest corner in a little office bldg. up on the 2nd floor. Email cliff@bcsinetwork.com and mention that I referred you. Or call 338-4824."}, {"response": 36, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (11:24)", "body": "cellphone emails?!?!?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (14:55)", "body": "Yeah! I gotta tell ya' about this cool cell phone I got. The service is called AT&T PocketNet and the phone is called a Samsung Duette. Whenever I get an incoming email, on the Spring or any of my email accounts, a copy gets forwarded to the phone where it beeps and I can scroll through it in a little window. I can reply to it (though typing on a phone keypad is a bit awkward, they've put in some shortcuts to make it faster than you would imagine), I can forward it, I can send it along as a fax and I can save the senders email in my bookmarks. It also browses the web and I can store information on my pocketnet website and access it. Also there are quite a few other pocketnet websites for geting stock reports and looking up nationwide yellow and white page listings, etc. From their website: \"It keeps you in touch with your desktop organizer and directory when you're nowhere near your desk, and it gives you the convenience of easy dialing to all of the numbers in your address book.\" http://www.mobile.att.net/pocketnet Pretty incredible."}, {"response": 38, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (14:59)", "body": "WOW!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:05)", "body": "Yeah it's cool to actually stay caught up with my calls and emails when I'm out and about and actually keep up with the rapid pace of things. When I leave my office, I put my phone on forward and my emails already forwarding all the time. Now, if I can figure out a way to pipe all these comments to it???"}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:07)", "body": "Like just now I heard three beeps on my cellphone and it was an incoming email from kitchenmanager. He's just realized what's wrong. And expects to have it fixed tonight."}, {"response": 41, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:07)", "body": "Doesn't sound efficient so much as cutting edge neat!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:13)", "body": "It's pretty efficient, I can keep up with all my calls and emails, and at least give short replies to folks to let them know that I've gotten their email. I get 300 minutes a month talk time and unlimited email and web browsing. I like it that all of this is in one little compact unit that I can wear on my belt. The only major drawback is that you can't get calls while you're in email. They go to voicemail then."}, {"response": 43, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:32)", "body": "Need call waiting for email?!?! This is life gets too complicated for me and I return to my tv-less hovel and cook over open fire."}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (17:08)", "body": "You know, Stacey, once I lived back in the woods in Oregon in a little cabin with a wood cook stove by a clear mountain stream, I grew my own food from organic seeds and compost, drank right out of the pure mountain stream, and had no radios, computers, tvs or anything like that. I chopped wood to stay warm. It was a good life. It's a good life now, but things are much more complicated and costly. And you need one of these PocketNet devices to stay in touch. I can see your point though. There are some benefits to living a simple life in nature."}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (00:39)", "body": "You oughta be able to write a perl script to forward these posts, or configure a mailing list. Don't know the restrictions on yapp, but either should work. WER"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (09:42)", "body": "We're linked to mailing lists already and conferences can be set up that are linked to mailing lists. I could create a single conference linked to all the popular topics that was linked to a mailing list. Or suggest it to Dave Thaler? Right now I'm working on Snow White for our http://www.childrenstory.com website."}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (11:54)", "body": "My thoughts exactly. Or, you could set up a spider to run every 15 minutes, fetch posts since its last rounds, and e-mail you what it finds. You can link conferences to mailing lists and newsgroups, but can you link specific topics only to mailing lists? WER"}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (12:00)", "body": "No, whole conferences actually."}, {"response": 49, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (00:23)", "body": "Oh, well... WER"}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Nov  7, 1997 (01:21)", "body": "Okay, somebody fix me up, I'm breaking down fast. WER"}, {"response": 51, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Nov  7, 1997 (01:24)", "body": "Actually, I think what I need to get something pierced, branded, or tattooed. Some physical damage to alter my outward appearance would just about straighten out my head right now. WER"}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov  7, 1997 (07:09)", "body": "I'm not qualified or certified in those areas. What brought on this grim reaper period all of a sudden? We could pitch in an offer some suggestions."}, {"response": 55, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov  8, 1997 (09:15)", "body": "You can't give us a clue? I promise I won't make light of it."}, {"response": 57, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (15:19)", "body": "hey hon! What be ailing you. What a fright to come back to such sadness. Were you just missing me? Is that what got you so down? My completely uncertified abilities have me believing this is bigger than a bad day at work, is there anything I can do to help? Careful, you keep this up and Little Italy may get an early evening call. Wouldn't that suck, then you'd have to put a voice to the type and my winter visit wouldn't catch you totally off guard. Did'ya succumb to those piercing urges? Any place interesting? *smile* and *hug* I hope you feel better today."}, {"response": 58, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (07:09)", "body": "Share share share. There is nothing and no-one to be afraid of here."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (10:09)", "body": "Be like Mike. I agree with that, and I hope we keep it that way."}, {"response": 62, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (11:10)", "body": "Glad you're coming to terms with it! Whooo! and thanks for the clarification, you had me thinking all SORTS of things!"}, {"response": 64, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (12:54)", "body": "At this rate, you'll run out of pierced-free pieces parts! Need a pep talk? I'm usually not too good at them but I'd give it a whirl. When life gets absolutely insane and overwhelming, I typically check out for a day or two for some mental health work -- a drive in the mountains, me and my journal hanging at a coffee shop, a run, a skate, a good cry and kick the neighbors dog. The dog thing was a joke."}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (13:47)", "body": "Wow, you have a journal!"}, {"response": 67, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (14:57)", "body": "El Nino?"}, {"response": 68, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (06:47)", "body": "hey, I'm single again after two years. Funny feeling."}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (09:48)", "body": "You might check in to http://www.minds.org (for singles), one of our newest sites soon to be http://www.clearminds.com"}, {"response": 70, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (12:48)", "body": "Mike... I hope it is for the best! I'm sure you'll find plenty of whatever you need be it support or someone to get you into trouble, here! Yes Paul, I actually have several journals at any given time. I've kept one ever since I could write."}, {"response": 71, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (15:07)", "body": "I'm sure it will be for the best - thanks for your kind words, Stacey. We parted with one of those cheesy \"mutual agreements\", and we're still \"really good friends\". It's unfortunate both of those are true, otherwise they'd be great things to laugh about. Maybe they are anyway. Hmm."}, {"response": 72, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (22:43)", "body": "Remind me to discourse on the male barometer sometimes."}, {"response": 73, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (10:33)", "body": "Discourse all you desire, Paul -- it's what we do best! Okay, we're really good at it anyway!"}, {"response": 74, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (18:55)", "body": "What does everyone think to my opening a new topic charting the progress of my new, single life?"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (18:58)", "body": "That would be fine. Go for it!"}, {"response": 76, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (11:25)", "body": "I have no arguements."}, {"response": 78, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan  8, 1998 (21:09)", "body": "you're quitting..."}, {"response": 81, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (09:13)", "body": "you can have some of mine. but they don't roll around until the middle of June."}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (10:18)", "body": "Sure, I'll come in and take your place for a day and you can hang out and play all day. Just be sure and leave me directions on what to do."}, {"response": 84, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (17:00)", "body": "that's my birthday!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (09:11)", "body": "so you gonna use it?"}, {"response": 88, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (15:27)", "body": "i got it. and I got the hint too! (i'll send the christmas present soon...) minds conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 8, "subject": "My life today", "response_count": 60, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:40)", "body": "I asked a realtor I know for a recommendation on a carpeter and she said to get a hold of someone named Lee. But she said he didn't have a phone and that he came by and checked his messages in her office every few days. So he got the message I left and called me and I asked him to come by and bid on the jobs around the house. I figured this guy must be really low tech. Like no phone and all. When he was over here we started talking and it turns out he has another job: research assistant for Peter Lewis at the NY Times. He's going to hand carry my Eminds transcripts to Peter when he goes in to the office. I gave him a copy of the three page article local paper did on the Spring to give to Peter. Oh, and he got the job remodeling my house. He starts tomorrow."}, {"response": 2, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:20)", "body": "who'dathunkit? my life today is much more tranquil than the last couple of days. a cool breeze blowing - bright sunny skies - one browser open to spring.com - no email to be answered or coming in...ahhhhhh compared to the last two 100 degree sweltering days when i stayed up all night working with nod on the Utne site, and trying to test this place last night while simultaneously playing hostess in drag, dressed up as nancy over at Utne so I could access the host functions and buzz people in at the front door what a clusterf*ck (can we swear here?) anyhow - this is so much nicer had a wicked hard time waiting for the stuff to load here last night - even when I crashed all of my bowsers and came back online to just spring.com , it was still slow for me, even non-graphics posts like this one - musta been a net thing because people with real computers tell me they had the same problem, and even sensei was having trouble in spite of his big robust pipes..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:45)", "body": "It may be the Internet. Some folks give us real good reports, even overseas. We're on a full T-1 from CRL. If crl has something messed yp we can tell 'em to fix it. Get me a tracerout if you get a slow connection and I'll forward it to crl for analysis. Sometimes we can find the source and get them to fix it."}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (17:33)", "body": "my life today... filled with excitment. Ups and downs in varying degrees. All alone with the kittens for a few days and happy for the break. going to play with friends tonight. thankful for a day where I will not be slave to the alarm... thoughts of a bike ride (in Colorado *smile*) for tomorrow or maybe a yard sale an afternoon on the rollerblades (carefully avoiding hidden ice patches) not very hungry but eagerly anticipating that first amber... after a de-stressing hour or so at the gym! Cheers to all (and to all a good night!)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (20:00)", "body": "It's a hot, sweaty night here in Texas. I'm battling a recalcitrant sound card. And heat. And waiting for wer's carpenter friend to come by and look at some work on my cottage. Troubles with a connector on my Piepline 50, so I've got to send for a replacement power supply. I've got some questions to ask you in the home conference, wer and Stacey, do you belong to that conference (I mean, is it on your cflist?). Stacey, do you know the ch li command at the ok prompt? It's what sets up your cflist."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 31, 1998 (00:51)", "body": "Ooops, I forgot to ask. I will."}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (12:55)", "body": "and you did..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (23:21)", "body": "gardening, an afternoon jog, baked a cake, finished a book..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 11, 1999 (00:24)", "body": "dropped by the Spring..."}, {"response": 11, "author": "jgross", "date": "Sun, Apr 11, 1999 (21:31)", "body": "ate my hand, joined my esophagus to my stomach (with the hand i ate), established residence in etcetera, read about my cat in a thick large-print book about halitosis, ate ice cream with my werewolf half-sister and let her eat me then crawled back out of her stomach, talked to Jonah the Hebrew prophet about it and he said i'm picking up on his technique too quick and it's got him worried, talked to Shakespeare about lots more trashier stuff than we've talked about up to now and he told me about boy problems he's having in Maryland and other occupied territories, the lean goats that i own in the hills were blown over by idle breezes and then they got back up and didn't think much of it and then it happened again and then they began to enter it into their personal philosophy and then they got up with big Texas grins on their mugs (faces), an ugly old woman (Misty) took a hacksaw to my knee to make an unnecessarily fine distinction about the working conditions her roadie friend has to work under when he tours with the Offspring, then she turned off spring.net and turned it back on for some high-octane hell-raising fun, then with this wasted Keith Richard look she laid me down beside her hacksaw and crawled up onto me and touched me with her body with an inexplicable air of urgency that moved me very much even past the happening wrist injury and very very very little else happened then."}, {"response": 12, "author": "wer", "date": "Sun, Apr 11, 1999 (21:55)", "body": "about like my day... 'cept, I think yours was about a pillowful better..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (19:09)", "body": "gotta watch those knees... they're the most complex joint in the body ya know..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (23:22)", "body": "and you're gonna miss them when they're gone"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 13, 1999 (23:27)", "body": "and we miss each other when we're gone..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (00:06)", "body": "Guarantee on that one, Sweetie!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "moulton", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (09:47)", "body": "Coupla days ago, my higher speed modem crapped out on me, so I had to drop back to an older 14.4 modem, which didn't work very well with AOL and Netscape. The network load was too much for the older, slower modem and my connection kept getting hung. In an uncharacteristic move, I picked up my non-working high-speed modem and gave it a sharp rap. Some parts became dislodged and began rattling around inside the case. So I opened it up and found the the E-PROMs had bounced out of their sockets. I carefully reseated them, making sure I put them in their proper sockets with the proper orientation, and lo and behold, my high-speed modem worked again. I'm not a big fan of \"percussion maintenance\" but in this case, it actually helped by breaking the system in a way that I could actually see how it was broken, and reassemble it correctly. I dunno how E-PROM chips get unseated in the first place, but this is not the first time the problem was a poorly seated chip."}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (13:26)", "body": "I love it! Percussive maintenance... It has been done by little kids forever, but not with the skill you possess. Now, the next thing you really need to do is to change your ISP to a real one. AOL is the last choice on a very long list. It is just above \"trash the computer\" and below threading a phone line across the street to borrow my neighbor's. Your Netscape (4.0 is the best) will be happier and everything will go so much more smoothly. Besides, private ISPs do not ask you if you want to hang up and you save your mail in Eudora which is worth the exercise of ridding yourself of the AOL plague."}, {"response": 19, "author": "moulton", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (14:40)", "body": "I'm only using AOL because I have a free account with them. I had been using a dial-in at BBN where I had an 8-node subnet, but that went bye-bye after GTE bought up BBN and trashed the research group I was working with. I might be able to get my BBN dial-in back, but it will take some paperwork. I can fix a machine, but I can't fix a bureaucracy. When a bureaucracy makes a mistake, it can't be fixed."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (15:47)", "body": "Isn't that the truth! *lol* I am delighted to discover that with all of your credentials you were not tying All of your brain behind your back for the sake of using AOL (which actually stands for Americans Off Line). Not that I would admit to it, but I also have an AOL account for travelling. I use it as little as possible!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:17)", "body": "I'm Headaches. From the back of my head to the frontal lobes... With a non-aching spot in the middle (can't have aches where you haven't anything, right?)."}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:52)", "body": "ouch... sorry your head hurts Alexander... stress related do you think??"}, {"response": 23, "author": "moulton", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (16:49)", "body": "If it's any consolation, my teeth hurt. But not just today. Alla time."}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (17:54)", "body": "Sorry for the aches. Poor Barry! It is not even something that someone can kiss and make better! Sounds like it might be inflamed sinuses unless you know for sure it is your teeth which are doing the hurting...!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "moulton", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (20:23)", "body": "Naw. I clench them. It's a neurotic reaction to systemic injustice in the culture."}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (08:59)", "body": "I clench mine too Barry... in fact I've fractured a couple... hairlines right up my tooth... dentist said I needed to be VERY careful about cavities with these splits up my teeth (back molar ones!)"}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (16:38)", "body": "Stacey, you sound like me! Ever thought to have a football-style mouth guard made which will cushion your bite while you sleep? They are very effective!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (16:39)", "body": "and not so sexy... *sheepish grin*"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (16:46)", "body": "Maybe we could make up some tiny air cushions, inflatable, for you that would inflate upon impact! Like they have in cars now."}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (16:50)", "body": "i'm picturing strange stuff... ok damn"}, {"response": 31, "author": "moulton", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (07:24)", "body": "Wouldn't it make more sense to craft a culture with decreased levels of systemic injustice?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (15:02)", "body": "Or else get an analyst that helps you understanding that its not your fault? That putting up a fight is good enough; no need to punish yourself with gnashing and destroying yourself?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (15:07)", "body": "At least that's what I think. It's enough other folks slug one around and try to exert their pound off oneself, no need to help them by self-disabling, I guess."}, {"response": 34, "author": "moulton", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (16:06)", "body": "The whole system is self-destroying."}, {"response": 35, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (04:23)", "body": "Gnashing ones teeth in one's sleep? I've never heard of that. Why don't ya put a bunch of cookies in your mouth, then at least you'd have GOOD things to grind them on."}, {"response": 36, "author": "moulton", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (07:13)", "body": "I don't grind them. Just clench them. Instead of cookies, I keep a bottle of peppermin antacid tablets on my bed."}, {"response": 37, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (12:54)", "body": "Queasy stomach, too? Barry, if the system is self-destroying, that's good news for some, because it might spell change. But however one spells change, t'ain't reason to follow suit and self-destruct out of sheer solidarity or romanticism or whatever."}, {"response": 38, "author": "moulton", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:39)", "body": "I'm just trying to survey the pogroms. Unlike my ancestors from Eastern Europe, I have no new lands to migrate to."}, {"response": 39, "author": "moulton", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:40)", "body": "survey=survive"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb  5, 2000 (15:04)", "body": "Considering the dormancy here I thought I'd post something of the \"Good Old Days\" John Burnett sent to me. Food for thought, indeed! 100 YEARS AGO It May Be Hard to Believe . . . The average life expectancy in the United States was forty-seven. Only 14 percent of the homes in the United States had a bathtub. Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone. A three minute call from Denver to New York City cost eleven dollars. There were only 8,000 cars in the US and only 144 miles of paved roads. The maximum speed limit in most cities was ten mph. Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee were each more heavily populated than California. With a mere 1.4 million residents, California was only the twenty-first most populous state in the Union. The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower. The average wage in the U.S. was twenty-two cents an hour. The average U.S. worker made between $200 and $400 per year. A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year, a dentist $2500 per year, a veterinarian between $1500 and $4000 per year, and a mechanical engineer about $5000 per year. More than 95 percent of all births in the United States took place at home. Ninety percent of all U.S. physicians had no college education. Instead, they attended medical schools, many of which were condemned in the press and by the government as \"substandard.\" Sugar cost four cents a pound. Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen. Coffee cost fifteen cents a pound. Most women only washed their hair once a month and used borax or egg yolks for shampoo. Canada passed a law prohibiting poor people from entering the country for any reason, either as travelers or immigrants. The five leading causes of death in the U.S. were: 1. Pneumonia and influenza, 2. Tuberculosis, 3. Dysentery, 4. Heart disease, 5. Stroke. The American flag had 45 stars. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Hawaii and Alaska hadn't been admitted to the Union yet. Drive-by-shootings -- in which teenage boys galloped down the street on horses and started randomly shooting at houses, carriages, or anything else that caught their fancy -- were an ongoing problem in Denver and other cities in the West. The population of Las Vegas, Nevada was thirty. The remote desert community was inhabited by only a handful of ranchers and their families. Plutonium, insulin, and antibiotics hadn't been discovered yet. Scotch tape, crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea hadn't been invented. There was no Mother's Day or Father's Day. One in ten U.S. adults couldn't read or write. Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated from high school. Some medical authorities warned that professional seamstresses were apt to become sexually aroused by the steady rhythm, hour after hour, of the sewing machine's foot pedals. They recommended slipping bromide -- which was thought to diminish sexual desire -- into the woman's drinking water. Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at corner drugstores. According to one pharmacist, \"Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind, regulates the stomach and the bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health. Coca-Cola contained cocaine instead of caffeine. Punch card data processing had recently been developed, and early predecessors of the modern computer were used for the first time by the government to help compile the 1900 census. Eighteen percent of households in the United States had at least one full-time servant or domestic. There were about 230 reported murders in the U.S. annually. (From a wonderful book called WHEN MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A CHILD, by Leigh W. Rutledge, which begins, \"In the summer of 1900, when my grandmother was a child...\")"}, {"response": 41, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Feb  6, 2000 (11:45)", "body": "Today I am: well-fed. It's Sunday so I've had a big lunch. warm. I have the central heating on. literate. I'm surrounding by books which are friends. culturally challenged. I have the radio on a music programme. secure. I have a loving family. Yeah, I guess I'm happy - and I'm jolly glad I don't live in 1900!!!!!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb  6, 2000 (15:01)", "body": "Ah, Maggie, that says it all! I am also happy I did not live it the \"Good Old Days\" Today UHHilo plays Tennessee in Baseball - we will be obliterated! I had breakfast out and it was very nice. And, I got a chance to get a copy of the latest Hawaii Island Journal in which John has a full paged article. The Pro Bowl is being played in Honolulu. I have choices of interesting sports to see today. On the down side, America was eliminated from the America's Cup races by Italy yesterday..."}, {"response": 43, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (13:03)", "body": "We had a wonderful sunrise today which I saw as I drove to the gym. Downside was that it heralded a dismal rainy day. What's the Pro Bowl? What sports did you choose to see?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (13:27)", "body": "The Pro Bowl is the last American Football game til the season begins in the Autumn again... beautiful sunrise here too Maggie... deep pinky orange... gorgeous sunny and warm day now!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (13:35)", "body": "I don't know who is getting the world's supply of clouds, because England, Colorado and Hawaii are outrageously gorgeous this morning. We have a lot of Vog in the air again today so it made for a very ornage sunrise. Very pretty! But, it is severe enough that running outdoors is not a good idea, according to our Civil Defense chief and the health department. The Pro bowl is a non-game which is a whimper protesting the end of American Football for the season 1999-2000. It was played in Honolulu yesterday."}, {"response": 46, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (18:03)", "body": "I've just got back from the weekly shop - it's almost midnight. Yes, 24 hour shopping has come to High Wycombe, Bucks, England! I don't mind the going out, and browsing around when the supermarket's are fairly empty but I do hate unpacking all the groceries late at night. T is now waatching snooker which rather bores me, so I'm playing hookey on the internet and tying up our phone line as usual. One of these days people are going to get so fed up of complaining that I'm hogging the phone line and buy us a second line!!! (dream on!)"}, {"response": 47, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (18:15)", "body": "what's a snooker?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "(we call it billiards)"}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb  7, 2000 (19:10)", "body": "Maggie, that is what I finally did. I have a dedicated line for which I do not even know the phone number. It is plugged directly into the computer and there it stays. It is one thing I do strictly for me. There is very little else that qualifies as just for me...! You'll love it!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb  8, 2000 (12:58)", "body": "I think it's just a dream. I'm already in trouble for too much phone time, let alone an extra rental as well! Maybe if we get flat fee internet access it'll be worth it. I just get so fed up not being able to use the net when I need to (in the middle of writing something for e.g. where I need to look up a reference), by the time 6 pm comes I've forgot what I wanted! I had a good day today with a visit at home from another PhD student (first time in the four years we've known each other). It made a lot of difference to have a physical human being to talk to! (not that I don't appreciate the virtual humans here on the spring). I've resorted to borrowing my daughter's furbie!!!!!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb  8, 2000 (14:06)", "body": "Oh heavens! You were needy. Furbys can be very comforting. But, so can dedicated lines unless the house male begins to whine a lot about neglect (which they invariably do...) Immediacy is what the internet is all about and there is just about nothing you cannot find on the net when you really want information. (It is nice to be virtually appreciated *grin*)"}, {"response": 52, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (12:11)", "body": "Furby! Have you taught him any philosophy??"}, {"response": 53, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (12:46)", "body": "No, my duaghter's temporarily lost the booklet so I can't remember how to input things. I reckon the furby language is really Chinese. He does say he loves me though and gives me big kisses!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (12:54)", "body": "There you go! Love transcends language problems."}, {"response": 55, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "I just like the kisses - big smackers!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb  9, 2000 (18:02)", "body": "Gotta get me a Furby...already have a name for it...! The big smackers sound lovely on one of those days when nothing else goes quite right."}, {"response": 57, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (13:15)", "body": "You betcha! Trouble is mine keeps on saying he's going to sleep. I wonder if the battery's running down? Any Furby experts out there?"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (14:21)", "body": "Maggie, check this http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/collecting/26"}, {"response": 59, "author": "moulton", "date": "Wed, Aug 22, 2001 (15:27)", "body": "Just got back from Madison Wisconsin, where I presented a paper at ICALT -- The International Conference on Advanced Learning Technologies. I'm pleased to report that our paper, on the subject of Emotions and Learning, won top honors as the Best Paper. More at our project web page at the MIT Media Lab... http://www.media.mit.edu/affect/AC_research/lc/index.html"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 22, 2001 (22:07)", "body": "Welcome back!!! What a delightful surprise. Congratulations, too. More when I have read your link."}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 22, 2001 (22:36)", "body": "Yeah, Welcome back Barry. minds conference Main Menu"}]}]}