{"conf": "paraspring", "generated_at": "2026-04-26T08:00:02.954878Z", "threads": [{"num": 1, "subject": "Suggestions for your Host", "response_count": 82, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (22:17)", "body": "love the header so far, Wolf!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "jgross", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (00:26)", "body": "this is where we get to tell the ghosts how they're doin' and what can be done better? I can't see you. maybe a little less light would help. oooo-yeahhhh that......that startled me for real."}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (15:29)", "body": "ok, wer, i made a background to use here and can't get it to show up. i put it in the rc file and it's called believe.gif, can you help me?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (20:58)", "body": "wer, i made a complete set for this conference. it's in the paranormal folder. tell me if you think they stink. and could you send me the rc codes so i can quit bugging you on how to change those things? i went to the yapp user guide and it showed me all sorts of things but backgrounds and stuff. you're such a sweetie, thanks in advance *smooch*"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (22:32)", "body": "uh...it's a bit more complicated than that, Wolf... I'll try and get to Terry's this week, and set up what you've got done...they have to go in a special place that you (I don't think) have read/write access to... I like what you've done so far, but that is not a complete set of buttons..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (22:35)", "body": "You will need to have replacement gifs for all of the following: back.xbm hot.gif preserve.gif retire.gif cfcreate.gif kill.gif prevconf.gif search.gif enter.gif new.gif previtem.gif thaw.gif forget.gif nextconf.gif readnew.gif freeze.gif nextitem.gif remember.gif help.gif participants.gif resign.gif"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (22:36)", "body": "except, you don't need hot.gif, new.gif, or back.xbm"}, {"response": 8, "author": "wer", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (23:00)", "body": "you got close, and I did what I could... try it for a few days, and tell me what to do next...go look in the rc file, and see what I did..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "wer", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (23:14)", "body": "actuall, Wolf, looks like all you need is thaw.gif previtem.gif nextitem.gif nextconf.gif (your current one says create topic...) udder than that, you did good! you wanna do a horizontal rule, as well?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 22, 1999 (08:27)", "body": "you're such a sweetheart, wer! you really like them?? i'll see what i can do for a rule...."}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (04:32)", "body": "nextconf.gif is fixed. do ya like the ufo? am working on a ruler...."}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (04:36)", "body": "alright, thaw.gif, previtem.gif, and nextitem.gif are uploaded under paranormal. i don't know where these buttons belong though, so if you don't mind incorporating them. i can change the color scheme using the same names if you don't like this, but i was looking for something easy to read and take little time to load up. thanks, sweetie *hugs*"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (01:40)", "body": "it's intriguing, Wolfie...wonder what anyone else thinks..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (08:16)", "body": "good question. we need to figure out how to get folks to come over here..."}, {"response": 15, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (10:35)", "body": "i just accidentally stumbled here! i did not know that this conf had been created. announce it in the porch conf."}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (11:01)", "body": "okay!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:19)", "body": "see, Ray, I can do some things by myself..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (22:11)", "body": "never doubted that for a moment, wer. however, i am worried 'bout your persistent use of those Huggies \"Pull Ups\""}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (22:55)", "body": "it's all about maximum utilization of available resources, Ray... (well, that and the ever-present need to CYA...)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (12:49)", "body": "\"What would happen if you melted? You know, you never really hear this talked about that much, but spontaneous combustion? It exists! . . . [People] burn from within. . . .Sometimes they'll be in a wooden chair and the chair won't burn, but there'll be nothing left of the person. Except sometimes the teeth. Or the heart. No one speaks about this-- but it's for real.\" --Keanu Reeves"}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (15:22)", "body": "is that a suggestion for our host??"}, {"response": 22, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:43)", "body": "how does keanu reeves know all this?"}, {"response": 23, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:44)", "body": "he learned it in his acting classes *gag*"}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:52)", "body": "really! he's one actor that should just stand there and look good. (i did like him in a walk in the clouds)"}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:53)", "body": "never saw it... he obviously doen't talk in that flick, eh?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (18:03)", "body": "not much (not like in speed, anyway)..."}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (18:04)", "body": "and not with an awful, horrible, contrived accent?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (18:08)", "body": "no, his tone of voice is lighter and not so monotone...."}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (18:08)", "body": "whew."}, {"response": 30, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (18:11)", "body": "yeah. hey, i've gotta run. talk to you later *smile*"}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (18:13)", "body": "buh bye! (nice chatting with ya -- seems we haven't been able to do that for awhile!) My suggestion for the host: take a nice long hot bath to relieve the troubles of the real world..."}, {"response": 32, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  6, 1999 (11:13)", "body": "wer, got us a link to mufon. it's in my file under paranormal, called mufonb1.gif. and you know the link info for that site......thanks sweetie!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar  6, 1999 (11:41)", "body": "now, where should I put it?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  6, 1999 (15:48)", "body": "i like where you put it *grin*"}, {"response": 35, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Mar  7, 1999 (00:17)", "body": "at least some things I can do well most of the time..."}, {"response": 36, "author": "wer", "date": "Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (00:20)", "body": "I love the new colors, Wolf!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (10:08)", "body": "huh?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (00:13)", "body": "*blush* oops... my browser went psycho, and apparently so did I... (they really were cool colors, though...)"}, {"response": 39, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (11:06)", "body": "i likes it when a man blushes....what sort of colors were they, wer? maybe i can figure out the coding....."}, {"response": 40, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (22:12)", "body": "light dusty maroon? I'll see if I can duplicate it..."}, {"response": 41, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (23:58)", "body": "actually, I thinks we should stick with this one..."}, {"response": 42, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 26, 1999 (11:47)", "body": "ok. not a problem! btw: where have you been? and everybody else? this place has been rather dead. (oh, i made a funny)"}, {"response": 43, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 27, 1999 (01:32)", "body": "*chuckle* for two days, I was trying to get AOL functioning on our new computer... the last two weeks, I've been at work around ninety hours a week, and this coming Thursday will be my first day off since sometime in January, I think... Alexander just asked me where everyone else was, too... (it was in a conference I'm not sure you frequent...) I'm tired and empty, Wolf...how are you these days?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 27, 1999 (16:51)", "body": "tired and suffering from spring fever and major writer's block. i'm sorry they're working you so hard. gosh, when did you sleep?"}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 27, 1999 (23:35)", "body": "I take naps..."}, {"response": 46, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (00:47)", "body": "hey, Wolfsie! you need two more buttons... a signup.gif and a login.gif for Sign Up and Log In... they are used in the public access pages for this here conference... (well, the other ones, too...)"}, {"response": 47, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (13:58)", "body": "will get on it as soon as i can....thanks!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (22:43)", "body": "you're welcome..."}, {"response": 49, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr  7, 1999 (17:27)", "body": "napping less WER??? getting out and enjoying the Spring flowers? (what's up?)"}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (00:45)", "body": "yeah, actually, Stace... I think I saw some on Easter... (you just got back from someplaces nice...no need to go there...)"}, {"response": 51, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (11:29)", "body": "(awww WER... are you still in the dumps?? sorry.) BEAUTIFUL flowers in Germany and the Czech Republic and they're EVERYWHERE!!!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (12:51)", "body": "(hopefully, just tired...)"}, {"response": 53, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (13:49)", "body": "(lotsa overtime??)"}, {"response": 54, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (19:04)", "body": "for awhile there, yes..."}, {"response": 55, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (10:41)", "body": "i've submitted this conference to a paranormal webring. as soon as i receive the code, it'll be placed on the page. wer, it's a pretty large pic and stuff, do you think we should post it on the main paraspring page or create a webring page just for those things? i'm not sure how to do it or if we can...."}, {"response": 56, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (13:50)", "body": "either/or...also depends on the rules of each webring..."}, {"response": 57, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (18:52)", "body": "this one didn't really say. in fact, it didn't even give me a site id. and i'm still waiting for the html code. usually they come right after you submit. not this time."}, {"response": 58, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (23:40)", "body": "what's the name of the ring?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (10:36)", "body": "paranormal. and still no html code."}, {"response": 60, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (09:57)", "body": "This is really cool, Wolf! OKay, here's my not so paranormal thing. Do you ever get that thing where you sort of gain time, forget about it, then experience a 'present' situation like a memory? It happens to me frequently that I sort of black out, and it's like an image fixes itself in my head. Then, a few days later I'll be in a situation, and I'll realize that it's happened to me already. Chris didn't believe me when I told him, so when the situation occurred again, I told him what he was going to say to me before he said it. Why does it happen? I'm sure one's sub-conscious can sort of jump time. At my summerschool there was a spiritualist woman. She had some interesting things to tell. For instance, she said, that thing that happens when you're about to fall asleep, then suddenly half wake up with a shock before going into a deep sleep? Her explanation is this: there is an invisible chord that connects our souls with our bodies. When we fall asleep the soul leaves the body, and hovers above it, still attached to the chord, which we then experience as dreaming. Sometimes it happens that, whe an upsetting dream starts, the soul protects us by returning to the body, and that is the shock one experience - the soul sort of falling back into the body. I found her stories absolutely fascinating."}, {"response": 61, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (17:11)", "body": "You're not talking about Deja Vu here, aren't you? That would mean you would only think, that you've seen something before, but you said you can say what will happen right before it happens! So this is REAL clairvoyance (there's a topic for that, BTW) or clearsightedness you're talking about? ( So could you tell us the lottery numbers one day before, so we all get rich? Great! *grin*) No, I'm sure you're not talking rubbish here, and I'm sure that what you tell really exists, but I can't say why.... When I was about 14 years old, I had trained myself to minimize my breathtaking and heartbeat so much that I got into a stadium, were I felt like leaving my body. I wandered trough the house, saw my mom working in the kitchen and things like that. ( I did this after school, noonish, when I was tired). I could tell her afterwards what happened in the house while I was \"sleeping\". For a short time it was fun, but one day I got a panic while doing this, and thought I couldn't get back and wake up again. I ne er did this again! Years later a teacher of mine who was experienced in meditation and stuff, told me that you could even bring your heartbeat to stop! I know that I still have the ability to do this, but I would never play with it again! Don't try this at home!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (20:27)", "body": "oh my gosh, isabel! your deja vu sounds like mine, ree. it's really scary but not frightening, you know? i used to be good at taking myself somewhere else when i was young. i could control my dreams. and going to that quiet place, mine was on a raft in warm water and no sharks existed. i could feel the sun and the rocking of the raft and hear the lapping of the water. it was wonderful."}, {"response": 63, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (05:00)", "body": "I forgot something to add: The impression of leaving my body came surely from oxygen deficiency in the brain. Must be something totally else in your case, Ree!"}, {"response": 64, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (15:05)", "body": "Oh yes, you can create impressive perceptions by wrong breathing, like hyperventilating. Not to be recommended. Riette, was that always in a sleep, or also during wake states?"}, {"response": 65, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (04:18)", "body": "Isabel, that thing you describe sounds REALLY scary. I think the brain is capable of alot more than we think it is, but I don't necessarily want to try it out! Must be cool to be able to do stuff like that though! I don't know if it is deja vu with me, because it isn't scary at all. The thing that fixes itself in my mind is usually something quite trivial, like a normal conversation. It's just that I get into situations where I suddenly grow aware of having been there before, and knowing exactly what will be said and gestured. It doesn't really happen when I'm asleep. It's silly, but when I wash the dishes, I always do it with my eyes closed, and my head resting against the overhead cupboard, and it happens alo like that - I don't have control over it. Or when I'm painting and tired, and all the patterns and colours sort of merge into each other. Yes, usually a situation where I'm not concentrating on anything in particular. Does it ever happen to you that you unthinkingly, and in a moment of anger wish a bad thing upon a person, and then it happens? I find it rather alarming when that happens."}, {"response": 66, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (16:53)", "body": "what you described above was deja vu (not the wishing bad things part). mine have been lasting longer. used to be just a flash, but now it's a minute or so and i'm stricken deaf and dumb. it's like going in slow-mo and i know what's gonna happen next. i have a hard time wishing a bad thing upon someone else because i'm of the belief that doing that means something 10 times worse will happen to you."}, {"response": 67, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (04:26)", "body": "Not with me. The first time was when my horse threw me - I was twelve, wanted to play the piano, and the moment I hit the ground, I knew something bad had happened to my left hand. Turned out afterwards that so many muscles were torn that it still doesn't work properly. But at that moment I was so angry, and I shouted at the horse, 'I hope you DIE!' A week later in hospital my grandpa rang me to say the horse had died of poisoning. I didn't really mean for the poor horse to die, so I can't understand why it did. Ever since it has happened numerous times, and last year the worst thing of all happened. Chris applied for a job as music chair of Brisbane university. He was appointed provisionally. Then came along this woman - she had studied there, she was good, so just as we got ready to pack, the job was given to her. Chris was very dissappointed and I was just angry. So I said something bad. Just in the heat of the moment - I didn't mean it that way. Two weeks later one of the guys on the committee rang Chris to say she had started work on the Monday, the Tuesday she had a brain haemmorage, and the Wednesday she died. I feel so terrible about it that I try not to see people much, 'cos I'm scared of getting angry."}, {"response": 68, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (19:11)", "body": "Oh Ree...you cannot blame yourself for coincidences. Doubtless, thone praying she would get the job...and now they think they jinxed her...!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (19:47)", "body": "That will teach me to answer a serious post using telnet...My comment was about those others praying for her to get the job and do well in it...they are probably thinking they are the ones who jinxed her..."}, {"response": 70, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (19:48)", "body": "Oh, and about now, I'll bet you could use a comforting *Big Mom Hug* - from me (you are just young enough that I could get away with it...!)"}, {"response": 71, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (20:31)", "body": "my goodness, ree, what a shock for you, especially when you were young! we have no control over other people. perhaps you saw something and it manifested itself in your angry thoughts."}, {"response": 72, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (02:17)", "body": "I hope it was just coincidence. But it's happened many times, so I can't help but worry about whether one's anger can really be strong enough to influence what happens to people. . Another time in school there was a sadistic fart of a teacher who looked like Hitler. He humiliated me in front of the whole class for something or other - I don't remember what. So I walked out and said to him, 'I hope you break.' That afternoon he hit a truck with his car, and was in hospital for several weeks. He literally broke."}, {"response": 73, "author": "RochelleW", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (07:41)", "body": "Wow, Reitte, you've got some incredibly strong vibes. Also, I'm a bit concerned as well. While I'm not disputing that this might be coincidence I also must admit that I don't believe in coincidence. I believe things happen for a reason and while we may not understand why until much, much later (or perhaps not until after we die) there are influences beyond our understanding. Now I'm NOT saying you were responsible, but if you are seeing a pattern then you shouldn't deny the evidence. I would recommend a few things if you are concerned (and it sounds like you are) that would help channel the anger in more positive ways plus give you ways to ground the power when it starts flowing. If you're interested, shoot me an e:mail offline and we'll talk."}, {"response": 74, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (02:53)", "body": "I'd defenitely like to find out more about this stuff. Do you think you could post it here, Rochelle? I think everyone would find tips to channel their energy in a positive way useful. I don't believe in coincidence either, and the above 3 example are not the only ones. My theory is that when one's anger reaches a certain intensity, you can maybe for a second or two 'see' unconsciously what is going to happen in the near future to the person whom your anger is directed at. If that something happens to be bad, it coincides with your anger, you say the word, and of course it happens. Or does that not make sense?"}, {"response": 75, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (15:00)", "body": "hmmmm....what is the correct term for that? telekinisis (or is that the ability to move things with thought?)"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (18:40)", "body": "Telekinesis is the ability to move objects (bend spoons?) using just the power on the mind.."}, {"response": 77, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (08:54)", "body": "I've got no idea about terminology. Rochelle, where are you??"}, {"response": 78, "author": "RochelleW", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (11:30)", "body": "but I've been fighting a bad headache. I hate sinuses. They're enough of a bother that I don't feel like writing deep thoughts which is what I'd like to do for you. Give me a few more days - hopefully it'll be gone soon."}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (22:40)", "body": "I can sympathize with you...I am battling my first toothache ever...and I cannot chew...and it does not let up! Tomorrow I end it all - in teh DDS office!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (09:25)", "body": "Good for you! Rochelle, I'm terribly sorry about your headaches. You musn't worry about all this - just rest and try to get some sleep."}, {"response": 81, "author": "RochelleW", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (21:03)", "body": "Hey, Riette. You mentioned in an earlier post about how your anger might give you access to seeing into someone's future and you see what's going to happen to them, then you say something that has to do with an unconscious \"knowing\" and then it happens and you feel bad. Well...that certainly is a complicated theory! :-) I tend to theorize a bit differently. Each of us has a soul (aka karma, spirit, powercenter, etc) that is made of something . Since energy and matter are the two basic substances that we know of and sometimes they're interchangable, I think of the soul as the energy that drives the body. Energy can be transformed into various forms. For example, we know about radiation, heat, sound and bunches more. What if we simply don't yet understand the physics of the soul's energy force? Some people see uras, others say they can take pictures of krylian (right word?) radiation eminating from the body. Some religions talk about halos, others talk of a holy place full of white light, there are others that simply don't come to mind right now. So if all these kinds of thoughts are lumped together, let me state my assumption about life: Life is made of both matter and energy. The spirit is the energy part and the physical presence is the matter. Ok, now another thing I believe is that energy isn't good nor evil, it simply IS. It is the intent and purpose behind the energy (the mind) that determines if a person is good or bad. For example, if a woman kills a kid by hitting the kid with a car, is she evil? What if she was driving below the speed limit, paying attention and the kid darted into the traffic? To me, it is the intent and not necessarily the result which makes something bad or evil. I believe our minds can shape and form the matter and energy that forms life. The ability to modify the matter and energy depends on the individual's talent. Some people have an incredible voice with no voice training. Some people are atheletically gifted. Others have a knack for numbers. What if there are people who have talents for working with their personal energy? Or the energy of others? We call these psychic abilities. I believe you have a psychic talent to influence the life energy of others. And just as a strong person with good heart doesn't go around beating up on everybody or a natural siprano doesn't go around shattering windows everywhere, people with strong talents learn to temper their abilities. I also believe that our soul doens't just exist on this plain but extends into this reality and others (reincarnation, heaven/hell, etc) so that what we do here influences what has/will happen elsewhere. A lot of religions believe that what you do will come back to you. If you desire to be helpful, to encourage creation and the betterment of the universe, then the things that you do should be positive rather than negative. Ah, you've probably heard the saying that things come back in threes or that you earn karma points by the way in which you live your life. By purposfully reinforcing positive energy and decreasing negative energy, you become that which Creation meant you to be. And for me, that's my purpose in life. Good nite, Rochelle"}, {"response": 82, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (13:09)", "body": "That's very interesting. And how do I direct the energy? I rarely get angry enough for it to sort of 'take over', which is when stuff happens - the rest of the time I work normal frustrations off through my work and studies. But how does one go about learning to control the energy? Are there any special techniques? I think I'm a pretty impulsive person; I never bottle anything up, but that's not necessarily positive, because when I'm angry, I just let it all out like a torrent, and then it's over. s there anyway one can get the anger or excitement or whatever it is, to WAIT a bit so that you can rationalize it before deciding what to do with it? paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 10, "subject": "Today's paranormal activities", "response_count": 22, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Apr  2, 1999 (18:34)", "body": "somewhere in the US, there was a communion taking place and the communion wafer fell on the floor. they put the wafer into holy water but it wouldn't dissolve. instead it turned into a flesh-like thing. i don't know anymore about it. heard it on the radio this morning. will check for more info and let you know."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (00:22)", "body": "verifiable transubstantiation, huh?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (08:25)", "body": "weeeiiiiirrrrdd!!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (14:01)", "body": "isn't it? haven't heard anything else about it but the dj promised to call the priest on monday morning's show so i'll definately tune in and see what's up."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (22:47)", "body": "the millenium..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr  7, 1999 (17:31)", "body": "oooohhhhh! this would be one of the reasons I do not attend church services... Wafers do the strangest things!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (00:37)", "body": "now, imagine if there were holy Pez..."}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr  8, 1999 (11:29)", "body": "ahhh... now your talking!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:22)", "body": "yeah, maybe, but everyone else stopped..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:29)", "body": "no so..."}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:29)", "body": "er... noT so..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:31)", "body": "ah, then it would only be my perception of things..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:33)", "body": "a form of reality indeed..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (17:16)", "body": "then I would justified in feeling the way that I do currently?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (18:41)", "body": "certianly. maybe not logically, but emotionally or mentally sometimes is much stronger... (shooting in the dark as I have NO idea HOW you feel...)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (19:06)", "body": "o-kay!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (06:48)", "body": "Woooooops, whazzat?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 13, 1999 (03:03)", "body": "apparently so amazing that everyone else is still attempting to formulate an answer!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (20:30)", "body": "Or has given up entirely...or has been whisked to a higher self by the great Spirit...or abducted by aliens...?!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:55)", "body": "or d) all of the above"}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (01:00)", "body": "...simultaneously!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (01:05)", "body": "(*lol* sanctified Pez!) paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 11, "subject": "Big Foot", "response_count": 27, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:03)", "body": "Someone called?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:17)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:17)", "body": "yoooo hoooo!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "Is that your mobile phone ringing, Wolf?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "oh no... Don't pick it up while you're driving Wolfie... Don't. Don't do it!!!!!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (21:26)", "body": "i'd be pretty darned talented if i could drive, pick up the phone, AND chat away on the computer, huh? couldn't be, though, the mobile is off."}, {"response": 7, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (06:53)", "body": "Then WHO IS standing behind me?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (09:49)", "body": "Big Foot is at my place right now, and mashes the Mac!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (10:23)", "body": "whatever you do, don't pull out the camera, this seems to make the dude disappear even faster. give him a hug...ok, well, maybe after you get him into the shower and cleaned up a bit. i found a site on what to do if you meet a big foot but forgot the url. will have to look....."}, {"response": 10, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "It's late at night. He's left now, and I hope he gets home okay. Anyway, thank you, Big Foot, things look much better now (at least those that work...)!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (22:46)", "body": "okay, here's the \"guide to meeting a big foot\" url i promised: http://www.wenet.net/~kylemi/bfguide.html"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (22:49)", "body": "the link does work, but the actual site has moved and it doesn't automatically take you there. so here's the new url address: http://www.hooked.net/~kylemi/bigfoot"}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (05:01)", "body": "Wow, what a drastic scene, these Big Foot folks! Did you read the \"Why I'm outta here\"-page the host has? Anyway, I did fairly ok by the handbook (paragraphs from the link you posted): 1.) The main rule: whatever you do, don't panic. Remember, there hasn't been a single case of Bigfoot ever harming a human being. Those that I know that have encountered them have repeatedly stated that although frightened, they were never under any impression that one would harm them. 2.) Don't make any sudden moves or do anything that could be construed as threatening. (What does that mean? Use your best judgement.) 3.) Bend down and sniff a flower. Alternately, raise one open hand to the Bigfoot and hold in your other hand a flower or similar offering. 4.) If you have any food, hold some out. Vegetable matter is preferred instead of meat; lima beans are favored. Fruits, especially peaches, are good too. If you do hold out food, don't be surprised if it approaches you to accept. 5.) Stick around--some of them know how to communicate."}, {"response": 14, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (05:07)", "body": "So, I didn't panic. Big Foot seemed to know what to do... Haven't been properly frightened, I guess. On weekends, I don't move fast, anyway (keep the energy for workdays...). The bending down thing was avoided in mutual agreement. I offered a nice coffee, but Big Foot opted for some nice mineral water. We had pizza for supper, with a nice salad. Big Foot had a pizza with maize (corn), cheese and tomatoes. No meats. Later, we talked about lots of things. What a nice day!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (10:38)", "body": "wow...you have the gift!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (13:43)", "body": "Thank you. Have you ever been visited by a Big Foot? (Hey, a miracle Wer didn't get here first to comment this \"bending down\" thing, not?)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (16:37)", "body": "i know! the only big foot i know resides in this house and he's not on the list of the paranormal..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (18:28)", "body": "... is that a disappointment for you? And does the handbook apply, too?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "nah.....things could be worse....."}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:33)", "body": "what size shoe does he wear, Wolf? I wear a 13, and my feet are smaller than my little brother's and my dad's..."}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (17:34)", "body": "oh, well, then you are THE BIGFOOT! how tall are you with feet like that? no, i pick on my bigfoot because his feet make me think of fred flintstone!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (17:35)", "body": "oh wait! i didn't read who was posting. wer, you're over 6' right? i thought it was alex *grin*"}, {"response": 23, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (12:52)", "body": "No, sorry to disappoint you, dear Wolf, but I am not the Big Foot who was at my place. I am the Alexander who was at his place when the Big Foot visited."}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (13:03)", "body": "the was WER who was at your place... being the bigfoot (and how come it's bigfoot and not bigfeet??)"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "oh, you didn't notice? they only find one print at a time!!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (11:11)", "body": "but he's gotta have two to carry that body around, no?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (12:52)", "body": "unless he's really good at hopping on one foot!! paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 12, "subject": "Dreams", "response_count": 20, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (14:14)", "body": "i like having dreams, good or bad ones. i have found that dreams eases my suffering if i've lost someone dear. have probably jinxed myself, but i've dreamt about people/animals that i've lost and have awoke to find myself feeling happy. i lost a kitten to a van smashing into him as he wandered across the street late one night and a few nights later, i saw him frolicking about as happy as a lark. i also heard him meowing in the morning. once i swore he was sitting on the boat in the driveway (where he usually sat waiting for me to open the door). anyway, after that, no more dreams about him, nor hearing his little voice calling me. i felt he was at peace and all was well. later, i had to put down a old dog (beagle) i had rescued from the streets. we had her for a year and i said she would have a good year of her life with us and not suffer (she had been abused). she ended up being put down because she developed an inoperable tumor pressing against her windpipe. i hurt so much for having to make th t decision even though i knew it was right. she knew it was coming too. she was the sweetest little thing. i asked for her to visit me so i knew she'd be alright. and i dreamt about her and she was in heaven smiling and healthy. i knew she'd be alright too and my guilt/pain went away. i don't know why that is, but i think if we open ourselves up to unconventional thinking, we can and will become aware of that force which is around us. i also dreamt about a co-worker who died of cancer. he was back up in the office just as obnoxious as ever (and i mean that affectionately). i've also dreamt about friends whom i hadn't seen in a while and usually i'd hear from them in a few days. spooky, huh?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:30)", "body": "had this dream a while back: i had died (i think) and was in a turqoise blue room. it was liquidy and i was floating around but wasn't actually in water. and i was escorted by a being that i believed was God or an angel. He was showing me different rooms and it was all very comforting."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:12)", "body": "Wow, Dear, you have powerful dreams. I dream a lot, too. One comes to mind which I find painful to remember. Someone I loved very much but was unattainable - I dream I see them and they are just beyond where I can talk to them...or are too far away, but I can see them. Most difficult to awaken from those dreams and relive the loss all over again."}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (19:18)", "body": "those are like the running dreams or the ones where you have foggy vision or something. i have them a lot too. also have a lot of hero dreams and pure fantasy."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (20:01)", "body": "yes....yes! except in my running dreams, I cannot run, but risk terrible things (being eaten by a polar bear as a child I had recurrent night-stallions - as one person put it)if I don't run, but I cannot run...etc."}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (20:27)", "body": "yes, the getting no where run. i used to run and then realized i wasn't getting anywhere and started flying to get away from whomever was after me."}, {"response": 7, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (03:00)", "body": "I dream alot about snakes. Scary, thrilling sort of dreams."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (14:11)", "body": "Ree, I'm nor surprised...for someone whose fav reptile is a black Mamba...Yeesh! But, in your dreams are they all phallic? Hmmm..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (14:18)", "body": "I have very complicated, realistic dreams. Most people don't believe that mine are as intricate and lifelike as they are, but it has been suggested to me that the reason I have dreams like that is because I have an overactive imagination. I mean, I dream in period costumes sometimes (which could point to a past life experience--which is another topic you could have on Paraspring hint, hint,) I dream about foreign countries I've never visited (Germany and Poland a lot,) and sometimes I even understand l nguages I've never studied."}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (14:49)", "body": "Are you aware of phrases and words in the languages after you waken? I mean, does it help you learn new languages? Or is it just an awareness of those languages being spoken and understood?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (15:03)", "body": "i've had those dreams too, amy!!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (17:59)", "body": "I'm glad to hear that someone else has had those kind of dreams, and I'm not a complete weirdo!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (09:01)", "body": "I think they sound fabulous! Mine are very clear too, but usually with the huge, colourful snakes lurking everywhere, or other monsters. Usually a little surreal. But, no Marcia!!, nothing phallic about those snakes. It's thrilling, because they are beautiful, and I'm scared of them, I run away, there is a door, I want to open it, but there is a beautiful poisonous snake draped around the door handle. I somehow manage to get through the door, but after that the obstacles get higher, the snakes multip y, and eventually I wake up. It's always a shame when that happenes, because I would love to see what happens when there is nothing but snakes, and I can't get through the obstacles anymore."}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (22:43)", "body": "Are they like the kite-shaped ones in your comic art?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (22:48)", "body": "Sorry, Marcia--I didn't see your question until just now. No, I don't think I could remember anything in foreign languages from the dreams. As I said, I mostly dreamed of Germany and Poland, and I've never studied either of those languages, so I might have an easy time learning them if I tried. I do remember that once I awoke with the word \"Appenzell\" stuck in my head, and I looked it up and found out that it's a canton of Switzerland. I have no idea why I was dreaming of that, though."}, {"response": 16, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (09:30)", "body": "Amy, why do you think your dreams are about Germany and Poland? Is there any significance there? Marcia, ha-ha! No no, my dream snakes are totally realistic - just in bright yellows and greens and reds etc. instead of brown or black. I guess it's a sort of visual manifestation of the fear and the fascination that I have for them."}, {"response": 17, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (16:48)", "body": "I have no idea why I dream about Germany and Poland. I have one German ancestor that I know of, so it's not like its my ancestral homeland or anything. I do have a lot of German-speaking Alsatian ancestors on my mom's side, so maybe its not really Germany I'm dreaming of, but Alsace-Lorraine. I started dreaming about Poland when I was with a Polish guy, so that's probably why I was dreaming of there."}, {"response": 18, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (13:11)", "body": "Wow. You sound like you're pretty sensitive to impressions, and like it's all very visual with you. It must be like travelling in time when you dream."}, {"response": 19, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (16:36)", "body": "I think you were responding to me, Riette... Actually, many of my dreams are not that visual. I just seem to get, as you say, impressions of things. I know that people or things are there, but I can't see them in detail and I guess I just fill in the things I can't see with what I already know. Does that make sense?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (19:15)", "body": "yes it does... paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 13, "subject": "Atlantis", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (14:17)", "body": "i saw a show on discovery (my fave channel) about atlantis and they say they've found a ridge and what looks like roads. if anything, i think atlantis was buried after the plates moved. like many finds in egypt, i believe if we do some really serious digging, we'd find something. was it utopia as some believe? i don't know, nor do i really have any particular thoughts about it. but that atlantis existed, why not? paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 14, "subject": "Clairvoyance", "response_count": 69, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (18:32)", "body": "Are you going to make a soothsaying one, or is that including in clairvoyance and channelling? And, did you tell roarke about it? Or...does she know without being told...?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (21:38)", "body": "i guess that would depend on how receptive she is *grin* there's one for soothsaying.....didja see it yet?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (22:43)", "body": "Indeed - been there and posted! That's the least I can do for my very special friend in paraspring =)"}, {"response": 4, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug  2, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "Strange - I feel I have been here before..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug  2, 1999 (17:41)", "body": "*lol* Alexander...in another life, perhaps?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug  2, 1999 (19:08)", "body": "you know, when i experience deja vu, it seems long. and it's like i freeze and can't do anything because i know what's going to happen next. the first time i had a strong sense of deja vu i was 9 and almost missed my bus because i froze right there (and the deja vu had to do with the bus)...."}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug  2, 1999 (19:54)", "body": "How astonishing. Never had anything that strong...just the feeling I had seen the place before and never had been there before."}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug  2, 1999 (21:32)", "body": "for me, it feels like i'm living the moment over again and i just know what everyone is going to say or what's going to happen. it's the strangest thing. now that i'm an adult, i just watch and wait. when i was a child, it was pretty frightening."}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug  2, 1999 (22:04)", "body": "Do you have any sort of precursors or premonitions that this is about to happen?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug  2, 1999 (22:07)", "body": "Does the military make use of your foreknowledge?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (12:36)", "body": "haha!! sorry, perfectly good question, but i'm not seeing things ahead of time like esp or something. only during the episode of deja vu do i feel that way. can't predict when i'll have a deja vu. oh, and no the military does not take advantage of my deja vu!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (12:38)", "body": "oh, speaking of deja vu....there is a theory that one part of the brain is slower than the other...something about the reality sometimes has to catch up and you feel like you've done the thing before. i forget what it's called--the conscience mind and unconscience mind and i don't remember who is ahead of whom!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (12:47)", "body": "What do you know of the guys who remote view (that you can tell, that is) and can you do it?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (13:00)", "body": "that's just a variation of out of body experiences, isn't it?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (13:03)", "body": "From what I have heard (Art Bell in the middle of the night) it is, but a very controlled one..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (14:21)", "body": "what the heck is remote view?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (15:06)", "body": "oh SURE wolfie, we know you are in the military, so you MUST know what remote viewing is. ;) seriously, RV is the purported ability to see things happening hundreds of miles away. supposedly it involves leaving one's body and floating around somewhere else. the CIA spent a significant amount of time and money during the 50's working with persons who had this ability, asking them to look at russian military sites, offices, etc. you could prolly pull up a whole bunch of stuff on it by doing a search for \"remote viewing\" using your fave search engine."}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "and I'm getting the impression that Ray is back amongst us!!!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (15:23)", "body": "Thanks for taking that, Ray. You did much better than I would have. (We missed you!)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "*sigh* i missed this place."}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (17:23)", "body": "well i was gonna ask if it had to do with me sitting in one room while my spirit left and gone into the next room to see what was happening! i can't say i've ever experienced that. as i was driving home today and thinking about what you asked me, marcia, i have seen something happen before it really did. i was sitting at an intersection and saw the car across the way who wanted to cut across south bound lanes to get into north bound lanes. i wanted to get onto the road she was on (i was travelling northbound). both of us had to wait for traffic to clear (as there are no lights there). my mind's eye showed me this car cutting across and causing an accident. well, two seconds later, t is gal cut across, a car coming up behind me was hit and a car coming south was hit hard and sent through my path and across the north bound traffic into someone's front yard. he was the only guy hurt but not seriously (bruises from his airbag). i had the forethought (funny i should mention that) to scoot my car up a bit. and yes, i stayed to make sure no one was hurt and as a witness when the cops came. now if that isn't scary! i couldn't believe it. we all know about friendships and being able to know when to call and stuff, and that happens all the time. even my husband and i share this link where he could be across town and we both think of something for dinner and it turns out to be the same thing when we are back together and the subject comes up."}, {"response": 22, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (17:23)", "body": "oh, and ray, i missed you too, hope things are well *hugs*"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug  3, 1999 (18:02)", "body": "That is scary - I am not sure it is a blessing or not. I am totally without ESP or whatever...I am on my own, as it were, aside from gut feelings about people.."}, {"response": 24, "author": "RochelleW", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (11:40)", "body": "Hi, guys. Good topic. Wolf, sounds like you have the gift of precognition. Even if it was only a short time step forward, it's proven it's worth. You weren't hurt in that accident. Just be receptive to stuff that happens but do be careful who you tell. Some folks get all freaked out because gifts like these aren't admited to in people's religion of choice or think you're just plain ol' crazy. Also, liked the remote view term - never knew what to call that before. :-)"}, {"response": 25, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (03:18)", "body": "Can you do any of this stuff, Rochelle? I can't do that remote-viewing thing. But one other thing that I get 'gut feelings' about is that sometimes I look into a person's face, and I get a weird feeling that they will be dead soon, or when it is a young person, I get the feeling that they are going to die very young. And it always proves to be correct if I keep in touch with the person or check the newspapers for their names."}, {"response": 26, "author": "RochelleW", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (07:20)", "body": "Hi, Riette. I haven't done the remote viewing in several years but used to be able to. Since I have a \"prove it\" kind of attitude back when it first started I confirmed several viewings with friends who were physically at the viewed area at the time. When viewing I don't hear words and the images aren't like looking with your eyes. They're a bit fuzzy in some ways (auras maybe?) and crystal in others. When it first started, I was about 12 and had spirit guardians with me for protection. They actuall lead me on the journeys. As I got older, the guardians were fewer and I could do it at will. I think one of the reasons I haven't done it in years is that I'm afraid the psychic anchor that leads me back to my body may break. Plus I just haven't felt the urge or need for a long time."}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:21)", "body": "plus, taking certain medications (not drugs) can degrade your ability to experience things like deja vu, dreams, etc."}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:17)", "body": "Ree, I am not sure I would like to have precognition if I would know someone would die soon or young...there are just some things I do not need to know. I know we don't always have a choice - there are some who consider their \"gifts\" burdens!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (19:20)", "body": "definitely NOT posting my pic now!! *grin*"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (20:04)", "body": "I agree with you on that...! *lol* Scary, huh?!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (20:29)", "body": "indeed!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (03:06)", "body": "No, not at all scary. It is just something about the person's eyes. It is as if they recognize it themselves, not me. That's how I can see it - I don't sort of see them in an accident or being murdered or whatever. Just that recognition of what is going to happen to them in their own eyes."}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (14:14)", "body": "Does it work with photographs or just with live people?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (15:07)", "body": "i can see a lot in a person's eyes, but not what will happen to them as a result of them reflecting it back to me. i also have a \"nasty hands\" thing. where i can't trust someone if their hands seem nasty to me (and not necessarily dirty hands)"}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (23:09)", "body": "Hmmm...most interesting...I get that feeling from just meeting some people. They make my flesh crawl and there is no apparent reason. I just know I do not want to know them any better...!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (09:05)", "body": "Hands? I've never had that one, I must say. Marcia, I can't tell anything from photographs - I'm not psychic or anything. I guess I'm just sensitive to people's gazes. You know how they say that doctors can tell that people are sick, or even what illness they suffer from just by looking into their eyes? I guess it's the same thing. I think one can see when another person's eyes get ready to see beyond all this, that's all. I always wonder, though, if I'll be able to see it in my own eyes when the ime comes."}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (22:44)", "body": "interesting thought about your own eyes. I can tell some very significant things from looking deeplu and intensely into certain people's eyes...*grin*"}, {"response": 38, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (09:31)", "body": "Like whether they're wearing jewelry or not? \ufffdgrin\ufffd"}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (19:16)", "body": "...that, too!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 18, 1999 (12:10)", "body": "I can tell from some people's eyes if their liver is damaged or not..."}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 18, 1999 (20:16)", "body": "The \"whites\" of their eyes are Yellow? So can I...!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "Oh, you, too? Hey, more fun than their eye-colour is the way their blood looks...! That always gave me the creeps, I wondered how they could still be alive with that."}, {"response": 43, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:20)", "body": "So how does it look? YELLOW? ORANGE? (Haven't the slightest idea....)"}, {"response": 44, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "It's TWO colours..."}, {"response": 45, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:39)", "body": "So tell me! I'm nosy - I love horror - go on ! Red with yellow spots?"}, {"response": 46, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:53)", "body": "Yellowish-white with red globules in it... The red stuff is what transports oxygen around, right? And they have all this yellow goo in their veins, and so little red blood cells."}, {"response": 47, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (14:02)", "body": "Igitt! Where have you seen something like this?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (16:20)", "body": "Worked in a hospital a couple years."}, {"response": 49, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (06:46)", "body": "Lots of goo and little oxygen - sums it up perfectly. A sort of spreading effect .... brrrr..."}, {"response": 50, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (15:07)", "body": "ok, something weird just happened, like 2 minutes ago....i heard my husband call my name as if he were outside. what's strange is that my husband is not home but at work. now i've heard my name called before (when no one's around)but never in his voice. this kinda freaks me out. will keep you updated......(and pray nothing terrible happened)"}, {"response": 51, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (15:16)", "body": "Hi, I'm just visiting! What's happened????????? You've got me worried now."}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (15:24)", "body": "Please call him at work so we call all breathe out...this is more than a little scary. We are worried for you! *hugs*"}, {"response": 53, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (15:40)", "body": "i haven't heard anything from work and his line is busy. it wasn't a scary call, more like he needed me to give him a hand with something....thanks for worrying....will keep you posted."}, {"response": 54, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (15:58)", "body": "Thank you, I can go to bed happy (ier) now. Good night"}, {"response": 55, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (16:03)", "body": "well, i called for him but where he works, it takes forever to find anyone. the person that answered the phone told me to hang on a sec and then never came back (probably forgot)....he works in a big bay like area and it can be hard to hear out there. plus, he's certifying someone tonight on a task. don't worry!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (16:04)", "body": "Ok, but let us know when you know he is ok. They are trolls sometimes, but they are OUR trolls...*hugs* Sweetie!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (16:07)", "body": "you got that right! and i will...."}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (17:19)", "body": "I'll be here pacing right along beside you! *hugs*"}, {"response": 59, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (19:24)", "body": "everybody can put their minds at ease. the AM just walked into the house not 5 minutes ago. i asked him if he was thinking about me around 3 and he said he heard that i had called and that's when he started thinking about me. maybe it was an angel and i should have answered."}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "It was and you did answer. That is what got him to thinking about you!!! I am sure this was a Very Good Thing!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (19:45)", "body": "i dunno, he didn't start thinking about me until after i called trying to check on him. he's home now, his guy did great on the task certification and he's happy."}, {"response": 62, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (20:08)", "body": "Perhaps that was the impetus for him to think...your phone call which was caused by the voice which came from...?! Excellent about his certification, especially if he works for the same guys you do! *grin*"}, {"response": 63, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (06:47)", "body": "I'm relieved too. Who knows why??"}, {"response": 64, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:33)", "body": "I don't know exactly how to phrase this story, but I'll give it a try. It is true and it did happen to me. For a few days before my father died, I would be awakened in the night be voices. The words were never clear, or if they were I forgot the words upon waking. The day he died, I was a awakened from sleep by hearing a voice call my name, very clearly and only once. I woke up, and for some reason checked the clock. It not quite 5:20 a.m. I was very calm, in fact, when I got up a little latter that morning, I felt almost europhic. Very happy, very much at peace. Until I got a call later in the day that my father had died of a massive coronary between 4:00 and 6:00 in the morning. It was so strange."}, {"response": 65, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:41)", "body": "I was just about off to bed when I caught your posting, Cheryl. So I'll just make a quick reply (yes, Marcia, I really am going ......). Thanks for sharing your story with us. I can see how it would feel strange, but I'm not surprised by it. I think it shows the closeness you had with your father, and was his way of reaching out to you. I hope it gives you a comforting memory that he was at peace and wanted you to know it. Now I really am going to bed - good night."}, {"response": 66, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:45)", "body": "Thank you Maggie."}, {"response": 67, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:26)", "body": "thank you, cheryl! g'night maggie..."}, {"response": 68, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (21:06)", "body": "i heard my name called today. this time by a co-worker who is also a friend of mine. he is out of state. it was so powerful, my gal pal heard it too. it was so convincing, i got up to look as it sounded like it was out in the hall. i would know that voice anywhere. haven't heard from him and don't have reason to worry. but it's curious, no?"}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (23:58)", "body": "Most interesting. I wish I knew what his voice sounded like so I would know if I ever heard it. But, not in this life time the way things are going. paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 15, "subject": "Soothsayers", "response_count": 12, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (18:31)", "body": "i forgot to mention the crystal ball, the magic 8 ball, and things of that nature!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (18:40)", "body": "Ah! Here it is!!! Happy thought indeed! I am totally inept in the arts practiced in here, so I will be hoping for others to provide input for you. Congratulations on your two new topics. OOooommmmmmmmmm.........."}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (21:41)", "body": "*sitting in a yoga position meditating* .....*thump* huh? what? oh, glad you found it!! i haven't done any of these things either, oh, except the 8 ball. when i was pregnant with my daughter, we were wondering through a toy aisle and my husband picked up the ball. he asked it, it said yes and here we are!! tarots and all that kind of frighten me. i always anticipate the worst."}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (21:42)", "body": "(oh, i might add that it was before i had the pregnancy test...i wasn't 9 months along wondering what in the h*** was going on with my stomach *grin*)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug  1, 1999 (22:36)", "body": "Glad to know that! After that long, you'd know it was not indigestion! *-lol*-"}, {"response": 6, "author": "RochelleW", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (11:47)", "body": "If you're interested in more info on tarot, runes and biblomancy (\"random\" opening of religious book and reading whatever passage you eye falls on for spiritual guidance) check out http://www.facade.com . It gives some general info and on-line demos. I wouldn't be too worried about an online reading unless you have the \"touch\" and can reachout across the internet to \"connect\" with creation to influence the cards. Just like singing, playing a piano, emphathy or other talents, we each are given certain gift. The gifts must be exercised to strengthen and train them. I can get on a piano and play chopsticks, but that's about my limit. So play with the internet stuff and have fun."}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:23)", "body": "i always do the biblomancy thing and it always works. i squeeze the book hard and pray for guidance on whatever is happening and let it go. sometimes i've read the whole page but the answer was always there. i refuse to do tarot cards and getting my palm read. i always expect the worst and i don't wanna know about it!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:04)", "body": "Wolfie, guess that is why I never went for that sort of thing...besides, the power of suggestion just might make something dire come true...!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (03:08)", "body": "Wow, Wolf! That's so cool. I would like to be able to do that biblomancy thing."}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (14:17)", "body": "Me too! I am totally devoid of any of the stuff in here...mostly, anyway!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (15:09)", "body": "all you have to do is believe....."}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (23:12)", "body": "I believe for Bibliomancy but do not wish for the others...I do not want to make them come true just because I believe what someone or cards say... paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 16, "subject": "Heinzelm\ufffdnnchen (Gnomes)", "response_count": 13, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (20:30)", "body": "they sound similar to (now pardon my very rusty german and i'm gonna spell it the way i remember it sounding--so WORK WITH ME!!) mine-sleigh men. they were gnomes but fat. i had a whole set of rubber ones as a kid and my dad wrote made-up names on their feet. one was dingbat. please tell me you know the proper name for these fellas as i know i'm tearing up the german big time! (oma would fall out to hear this)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (04:55)", "body": "Took me some time to get it! Mainzelm\ufffdnnchen! Yeah! I don't know all their names, but maybe I'll find out. They are on german TV and the typical sign of the ZDF (Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen)that has it's studios in Mainz. They show them between commercials. You can get their little rubber figurines still today. But unlike the Heinzelm\ufffdnnchen, they aren't REAL!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (08:45)", "body": "The Mainzel-munchkins remember you, too, wolfie! Check this: http://www.zdf.de/treff/mainzelmaennchen/17656/index.html"}, {"response": 4, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (08:50)", "body": "This is the Mainzelm\ufffdnnchen-Homepage. There you find pictures, stories (all in german!), a shop and even little films! Their names are Anton, Berti, Conni,Det, Edi and Fritzchen. Their look has changed a bit over the years. http://www.zdf.de/treff/mainzelmaennchen/index.html"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (09:48)", "body": "yes yes YES!!! thank you isabel!!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (04:56)", "body": ";=}"}, {"response": 7, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (04:20)", "body": "And what are the smurfs?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (10:29)", "body": "http://www.smurf.com/homepage.html They are blue coloured little creatures. In germany they are called \"Schl\ufffdmpfe\" - famous comic figures from Peyo, I think he's belgian..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (13:01)", "body": "Great Franco-Belgian tradition of comics. I think originally, they are called Les Shtroumpfs, or something the like. (More legendary French or Belgian comic artists: Herg\ufffd, Franquin, Uderzo + Goscinny, Moebius,...)"}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (14:30)", "body": "ASTERIX!!!!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (14:38)", "body": "Marsupilami!!!!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (16:36)", "body": "Lucky Luke!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (04:28)", "body": "LUCKY LUKE!!! Defenitely on my hunk-list.. paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 17, "subject": "Past Lives (Reincarnation)", "response_count": 92, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (18:06)", "body": "Thanks for creating this board just for me! I believe in reincarnation totally, which seems to be a rather unusual opinion to have here in the Bible Belt. I think that some souls go to heaven, some to hell, some stay here on Earth in the form of ghosts, and some people are reincarnated. I don't know if there's rhyme or reason to who goes where, but I believe that's the way things work. I've had some bizarre experiences with what I believe to be past life experiences--once, when I was in a lower-level French class, the teacher was reading aloud and she asked if anyone knew what \"mouchoir\" meant. It had never been one of our vocabulary words before, and I don't recall ever having looked it up, but I just popped up and said \"It means 'handkerchief'.\" I was even amazed myself, because when the teacher asked me how I knew what it meant, I didn't know. I still to this day don't know how I new that."}, {"response": 2, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (09:09)", "body": "Wow! That's really impressive! Do you have any other such things to tell? I've never experienced reincarnation, but I've read and heard so many things about it which I found convincing and plausible that I believe in it in the same way I believe in ghosts."}, {"response": 3, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (11:43)", "body": "Well, off the top of my head I can't think of any other specific incidents, other than that my French teacher once told me that I must have spoken French in a former life because I was too \"intuitive\" when it came to learning it, and my mentor told me that I was an \"old soul\" because I could understand things at a very young age which take some people years to understand. I do have dreams, though (see my post on the \"Dreams\" topic,) that are very strange."}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (12:01)", "body": "i've had only one dream that i can remember that was set in the medieval age. it was so much fun."}, {"response": 5, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (12:52)", "body": "Do tell! What was it about? Was it realistic, or like a movie?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (16:17)", "body": "no, it was realistic but also like a comedy. it was a love story. i actually wrote the thing down when i woke up! i remember being the wife of a prince or king and he was handsome. the only regal part really of the whole thing was a dinner engagement. at some point, i was ill and a physician was called who said not much could be done but to wait. the husband stayed all night and then caught the illness too. of course, by the end of the dream, both of us were well. for as much detail as was included, i only lasted a few minutes. i remember the inside of the castle being either brick or stone with lamps along the stairwell to the upper parts. i saw the bedroom as that was where i stayed the duration of whatever illness i had. the bed was low and covered with furs. it was also in the middle of the room and i don't remember much else about the furnishings. there were servants but they were never treated cruelly. the prince's only concern was me and it was wonderful to be in such a supportive situation he was not possessive in any way. i don't even know how i got to be his wife but knew that somehow i was not royalty to begin with. which may be why the beginning of the dream was of us moving in. oh, the feast was rather civilized, there being a table, dinnerware, napkins, and such. there were fingerbowls on the table. i can't remember who was in the room but it was full and everyone was having a good time. can't say whether this indicates a past life of any sorts. i've been in castles before (thanks to my dad's tours in germany) and did some research on knighthood. it may have been wishful thinking and the loving attention was something i needed in reality."}, {"response": 7, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (21:08)", "body": "Well, if you had flatware with which to eat, it probably wasn't a real medieval past life experience. You would have been grubbing around with your hands, probably. Do you think it could have been a metaphor for something going on at the time? Off the top of my head, I can't specifically remember any of my might-be past life dreams, although I know I've had some in which I'm wearing very restrictive clothing (like a corset) and I feel like I'm going to burst. I'll have to look back through some of my old journals and see if I can find any details that I'd written down."}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (21:12)", "body": "no, i don't remember any silverware. but the table was dressed. and yes, i believe some dreams are a way of acting out what we need. then sometimes i feel like it's a parallel universe. as a child i would decide during the day what i would dream about and then almost couldn't wait to go to bed and live it."}, {"response": 9, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (22:30)", "body": "I did the same thing when I was little! I don't know how I controlled my dreams back then, but I can't seem to do it now. Do you think that there are parallel universes? Also, do you think that time may not be linear? I mean, if I died tomorrow, might I be born in 1752 rather than a later date than now? I've always wanted to discuss this with someone."}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (09:34)", "body": "I've never thought of that! That's really interesting! What if death is the merely the process of being born into another universe?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (16:56)", "body": "It's one of those things that we can suspect, but never really know if it's true or not. I think it's very possible, though."}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (17:10)", "body": "hmmm...some ideas of reincarnation are supported in the bible, being given a new heaven and new earth, those that are first will be last, etc. but i'm not sure it supports reincarnation as we see it. i think that if reincarnation is real, then this must be my first go around on earth. although, when helping other people work with their different situations, some things come out of my mouth that i would never take credit for. not terrible things, just the advice that comes spewing forth that i would never dream of if in the same situations. you know what i mean? i can still control my dreams to an extent. while i was little, i could wake up and go to the bathroom and come back and finish the dream. now, if i wake up, i know i'll never get back to whatever was going on. sometimes, i could finish it the next day. if i dream about people i know, i feel really strange the next day. like, did they know they were in my dream and what we did? *grin* what interests me, are the people that i don't know in life but know so well in my dreams."}, {"response": 13, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (20:49)", "body": "Why do you think that it's your first go-around on Earth? I've known some people that I suspected to be \"young souls,\" and anyone as interested in poetry and stuff as you are couldn't be too young! I have always wondered if you're having a really strong, really realistic dream about someone, could they be having the same one about you at the same time? I've had some dreams that are so realistic that I have to believe that he was having the same one too, because it was almost like our souls were communicating across space. Maybe I just think that because I was madly in love with him, too!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:01)", "body": "That madly-in-love bit is the answer to your wondering question...even para-challenged I have had those kinds of dreams!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:03)", "body": "Yeah, I kind of figured that's why I was having those dreams...but what's really weird is when you have them about men you wouldn't even consider that way in waking life!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:08)", "body": "I know!!! I remember having a fantastic dream about a guy when I was in High School who was hopeless in real life...but he was awesome in my dream. I searched him out the next day hoping to find I was wrong about him IRL...but he was just as bad as I remembered...*sigh*"}, {"response": 17, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:10)", "body": "Alas! Well, the object of my dreams wasn't hopeless--just hopelessly unattainable!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:16)", "body": "I know about them, too...! They are the most anguishing sometimes..."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:17)", "body": "...or the one I had about one of my Father's business associates...when I awoke I felt like my mind needed washing...thoroughly nasty, as I recall..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:27)", "body": "Eww! I can't remember having any dreams about anyone I knew that made me ill--the only really disgusting ones were about men I didn't know, and that's probably the main reason why they felt so nasty. I have an absolute taboo about having sex with men I don't know (it seems obvious, but some women don't,) and I believe that it was probably my naughty little id making itself known."}, {"response": 21, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct  4, 1999 (21:31)", "body": "Do you ever think that you and the love of your life were together in another life? I wonder if my Beloved and I have always been a hopeless couple, century after century."}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (19:17)", "body": "...Not I...the love of my life was not available to me...*very BIG sigh*"}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (20:37)", "body": "i think souls that we knew before exist in our present but not in the same way as we knew them. but the true love thing, don't think i've met them yet. (meaning no respect to my wonderful cutiepie of an alpha male whom i do love)... it's really weird to meet someone of either sex that you connect with. you know, like you've known them forever. oh, and do you think souls are neither male or female and can come back as any sex? amy, as to your question on why i believe this is my first time here: well, because i can be so naive, romantic, and gullible. maybe i was a dog the first time which would explain my devotion to my pets. did have a co-worker tell me that he could see me in the victorian era. and i said, what, as a maid, and he said, nope, he could see me wearing those dresses and all that. i was flattered, really. aside from the beautiful things this life has to offer (my children, flowers, etc.), i don't think i'd want to come back to earth. don't get me wrong, i love living and looking for the beauty, but to have to come back and not know what i was in for after having lived this life, that's a bit scary to me."}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (20:48)", "body": "I know a lady who seriously studies things like this and she says you can return as either sex and as mother and son, father and daughter (sounds perilously like incest here) or brother and sister, as well as lovers. Yes, it is an incredible feeling to meet someone and have so much in common... with single thoughts, often. Most amazing! ...and most wonderful...!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (22:31)", "body": "You know, I think I agree with your friend, Marcia. I think that certain bonds are so strong that they transcend time and space. And you know, the love of my life treated me like his daughter (I mean, he is 22 years older than me,) when he wasn't trying to seduce me. How odd!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct  5, 1999 (23:04)", "body": "Most interesting!!! I agree with her, I think...she was very convincing and knew an old soul...a lovely elderly lady! Most interesting"}, {"response": 27, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (13:18)", "body": "Do I know about that one, Amy! I'm married to the love of my life, who is 25 years older than me - he will ALWAYS treat me like a child. It is very safe and very infuriating at the same time. All in all I think elderly chaps are pretty awesome to be with. About that soulmate thing. Don't you think that people have several soulmates in each lifetime? Because otherwise, what would the chances be of finding one's soulmate? Although, the way Chris found me was pretty odd. He was on holiday in South Africa, went to Namibia for a single day on a special price train journey, we met and knew each other for 5 hours, didn't see each other again for many many months, and yet I just knew it was going to be him or nobody. There is no such thing as chance..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (13:36)", "body": "Ree, you're right. What is meant to be will be. And, my ex treated me as a child as well, and he was only 5 years older than I. You're right - it is both reassuring and infuriating at the same time. And, will you kids pick on someone your own age - what are the elderly ladies supposed to do? Rob the cradle?!) While I am at it, why do you think society accepts an older man with a young lady but not the reverse?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (16:30)", "body": "Well, Riette, the love of my life isn't exactly \"elderly\"--he's only 44 now and was 41 when I met him! (However, when we met I was 19.) I don't know if I'll have any other soulmates in my lifetime--he was the only one so far, and I can't imagine, at this point, feeling that way about someone else. I guess it's just that I'm still too close to the whole thing--our offices are right next door to one another and I see him almost every day! I wouldn't always say that society accepts older men with younger women--not so in my case! Everyone said, \"Eww, gross!\""}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (17:13)", "body": "..small-minded little twits....! Sorry, but there it is; love does not care about age and status and all of those tangible things...it just knows the incredibly intangible feelings..."}, {"response": 31, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (19:19)", "body": "that's right, the heart does the choosing regardless..."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (19:42)", "body": "*smile knowingly*"}, {"response": 33, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Wed, Oct  6, 1999 (22:34)", "body": "I know--it's just like the Duke of Windsor said: \"The heart has reasons which reason knows nothing of.\" Even so, I was very stupid about him..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (17:43)", "body": "What I find fascinating is how the idea of reincarnation is widely accepted in the Western Culture now, though it completely contradicts that which many people in this culture view as legitimate and proper foundation of this culture, christianity. From an anthropological/ethnological point, it's very curious to see how contradicting positions are merging into some mix that is more agreeably to people."}, {"response": 35, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (19:00)", "body": "I think I heard once that reincarnation was originally a part of Christianity, but that Emperor Justinian's Empress Theodora forced him to have it taken out of the texts for some reason that I can't remember. Does anyone know any more about this, or was this just my imagination?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (19:41)", "body": "i don't know about that, but the bible does mention being given a new body and a new heaven and earth being created. of course, i don't want to take it out of context, so let me research that."}, {"response": 37, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 18, 1999 (11:56)", "body": "Wolf, the bible does indeed, but it's ONCE and only after certain events took place. It's one of the prerequisites of judgement day. And you're supposed to be back as yourself, looking like you did, feeling like you did. The idea of reincarnation has different aspects, depending on who tells the story: You come back looking the same or different. Again and again. You are always reincarnated as homo sapiens sapiens, or as whatever you please. Or whatever your karma allowed. You choose where and to whom you're born or karma does. Or fate or the gods. You know about your next life in your current life, e.g. where you will be born (see the Tibetan Lamas). Or you don't. You know about your past lifes in your current lifes (look at all the people who have been Cleopatra...) or you don't. You're always coming back with the same personality, or never twice even near it. It's always the same soul reincarnated, or only a part of it. Your soul never dies or it does, or part of it decays (as the Chinese believed). There is a power behind it all or there isn't. It has a divine end at one time, or it doesn't. If it has an end or not depends on yourself, or external powers, or it's unchangeably eternal. It matters or it don't.- Amy, if you could verify what you mentioned, I'd be happy to hear more about it. There is no doubt that there were many things that once belonged into one religious canon or another and have been purged for whatever reasons. Perhaps it is in the Apogryphes (?), of which I don't have a copy."}, {"response": 38, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct 18, 1999 (13:08)", "body": "Sorry, I couldn't verify it--I just heard it somewhere a long time ago and I can't remember where. Maybe it's not true at all, or a story made up to make Theodora look either better or worse, depending on who was telling it and what they wanted to achieve!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:05)", "body": "Anyhow, I find it very interesting that many people take up believe in this concept in one way or another, while declaring themselves to be christian. Is Christianity changing then? What will become of the Salvation, e.g.? What role does the God of Christianity have, if there is reincarnation?"}, {"response": 40, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (06:49)", "body": "He's the one who gets to decide whether, in the next life, you get to be a pauper or a prince - or the artist formerly known as Prince, for that matter."}, {"response": 41, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (12:31)", "body": "Riette--LOL! I couldn't really explain how I consider myself a Christian and yet still believe in reincarnation--I never went to church and was taught religion entirely at home and later by my own interpretation of the Bible, so I don't subscribe to any particular sect's specific beliefs."}, {"response": 42, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Oct 21, 1999 (11:39)", "body": "Bah, an eclectic! ;=} I guess you gotta make up your mind, because either way, you'll doubtlessly cause queues either at HIS desk on Judgement Day, or at Reincarnation Unlimited's Karma-Counter. But Riette, does reincarnation plug in ok with Jewish beliefs? I found your suggestion amusing, but hey, that's actually worse that a benevolent god smiling on us all. What does that guy decide on? What if he doesn't like my haircut and thinks if had some, uh, attitude? OR if he found the mistakes and errors in last issue, and has me reincarnated as dust-bin because we misspelled something? Hmh? Do tell me, please!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 22, 1999 (01:41)", "body": "HOnestly! It's time the dear Lord got himself and e-mail address, so you won't have to ask ignorants like me about these matters! No, reincarnation is not a part of our formal religious beliefs. Though Reform Juda\ufffdsm leaves very much room for personal belief as well. If you believe in re\ufffdncarnation, no-one will condemn you or anything. We basically believe in God, but understand that how religions work was thought up by people, and therefore different people will have different versions of things like what happens to us hereafter. And different people will have different ideas of God and his 'Eigenshaften'. None of it can be judged as either right or wrong, because NO-ONE knows what will happen to us when we die. Reform Juda\ufffdsm is, I think, not so much a religion as a particular intellectual mentality regarding God and the hereafter. The only thing we more or less agree upon is that there is always room for argument and discussion. That doesn't really answer your question. But that's because no-one really can. Personally I don't think God is a dictator - unless Hitler managed to shove Him into an oven as well in the meantime. I consider myself a relativist. I don't see him as a person as such, but as a force - earth, rain, fire, soil, sea, the whole universe as an entirety. One reads so many baffling stories about reincarnation; they may be coincidence, but I don't believe in chance at all. So, while it is not a part of how I worship God and think of the hereafter, I would never dismiss it as an untruth either. I always find it silly that we are all so concerned about what is right and what is wrong. And how believing or not believing in a thing like reincarnation can take something away or add to religion. I mean, God created all these different cultures, all these different beliefs, millions of different personalities - differences are his Forte, so to speak. Then we reduce Him to a Being that can only see specific beliefs as righteous and good. What is your view on all this? Do you believe in reincarnation? Or in God? What do you think God is? Actually, perhaps each of us should answer those questions - it would be interesting to see what everyone beliefs and thinks. So, GO! I take it you don't care much for that religion-thang?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 22, 1999 (12:21)", "body": "How beautiful, Riette! I could never have put it so aptly. I don't believe that I'll be causing any holdups in the line at the Pearly Gates--I think when our souls are released from our bodies, there is a moment of supreme enlightenment before we go on to the next place, and it's all dazzling and beautiful and we have the answers to all of the questions and we see everything with perfect clarity. There won't be any holdup to moving on because I believe that God has already decided where each one of us will go--he had it planned before we were ever born. I think the most important things are to have faith, be spiritual, and love God. If you do that, no matter what name you place those things, God understands. I don't believe that this person will go to Hell because he's a Buddhist or this person will go to Hell because she's Hindu and so on--I think if you spend your life trying to do right and live an upright life, you don't have anything to worry about after you die."}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 22, 1999 (13:11)", "body": "Amen, ladies. Ree, your summation of God is pretty much what my nebulous idea of that existance is, as well. Trying to describe God in human terms is the first problem, and all others are compounded by it. God understands all of his children and know that they take different routes up the mountain in the search for enlightemment. Same goal, different paths!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (14:19)", "body": "well, i just want to say that alex really clarified the reincarnation theories bor me, or not *big grin* maybe that's what heaven and hell are. besides being just places where we go if we're bad or good. maybe it's the roles we'll get. i dunno, but heaven is the place i wanna go! so, yes, i believe in God."}, {"response": 47, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (14:44)", "body": "I was once told that if you are having a bad time with finances in this life you were probably rich and did not share in a past life - so now you know how it is to be on the other end of that equation. Buit, that does not make sense if we cannot remember how we behaved when we were rich...! Same goes for arrogance or any other human frailty. You get the opposite in the next go-round!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "I think we all have a karmic relationship with the universe, so I can buy that. I think life is a big circle, and what you don't conquer in this lifetime, you'll finish in the next."}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (16:24)", "body": "...but...but...how can we learn if we can't remember what we did wrong the last time???"}, {"response": 50, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (17:09)", "body": "We don't have to know the mistakes we made in our past lives--we just keep repeating them until our souls finally figure out what we've done wrong all this time! It goes back to the concept of being an \"old soul\"--that's why they're wise beyond their years!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (17:25)", "body": "I guess only in some things am I an old soul...but I was told that as a child - adults would ask me curious questions and I would always answer them seriously. It continues even now...Don't know why...! (Does this mean if I don't experience some things I really want to experience I will never get the chance?!)"}, {"response": 52, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (17:39)", "body": "I'm not the one to say, but I think you're pretty close to nirvana or whatever you want to call it! :-)"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "Sometimes it seems very near...other times it is just as elusive as ever...I guess that is why I am still here!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (12:22)", "body": "Oh boy! Hey, when y'all dig all that karmic stuff, then explain to me please what role the genders play in reincarnation... Most cultures known to me that place faith in reincarnation say, what you're born as results from laws of cause and effect. And all the cultures I know that believe in anything place women below men, sometimes even below e.g. his horse or what have you. So, if I have not helped to sick, I get reincarnated sick, right? Pretty cool, then sickness is not brought on me by medical reasons or e.g. poisonous industrial waste, but my own dumb fault. Next: If I am suppressed, it is because I was a suppressor in my last life. Get it? That thing works PERFECTLY to tell people to shut up and quit whining, the way the world is is because of what they did IN THEIR PAST LIFES. Go tell that to some Pakistani child laborer. I liked the idea of reincarnation, until thinking of what a soul had to have done to be reincarnated into some of our more male-oriented societies. I mean, here they go and say, born as a guy = pretty cool in last life, born as a woman = cool enough to make that, but not as cool. This is in no ways different from the European aristocratic and religious mass-control concepts. See, I have difficulties seeing a difference between (a) being told another guy is boss because he was born to be, and that was granted by a gracious god, and women are worth less because that's how it is (patriarchical bloodlines monarchy w/ monotheism), and (b) being told you're poor and will never amout to anything because it's last life's karma, and one of the differentiations made amongst the reincarnated is whether they are demon, ghost, animal, human (male/female), spirit-being, god-being, the all-being (nirvana/nothingness). I found that very upsetting to think about, but yeah, aren't beliefs entwined with their societies structure? And what is there to control the populace when you don't tell them one guy is better because of birth rights. You have to tell them something so they behave, e.g. \"ok, you're born as leper, but try to steal, and next time round, you'll be a leperous dog, how'd ya like that fer alternative?\" - Try to think this through, and think how women might have been be quieted by this: \"OK, so you don't like eing lower than men, but think of how it'll be for you next time around if you don't just accept it and take things as they are?\" I would appreciate your opionions on this."}, {"response": 55, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (13:21)", "body": "In some (many) societies people are brought up and conditioned into never asking questions. I appreciate the fact that we all live in societies where we CAN ask the questions we like to ask. And where we are allowed to get upset about some possibilities that spring from the questions, or are suggested in response. I don't really believe in reincarnation or karma, but I don't judge it as being wrong and fulstop. People should be free to believe what they want. The reason why I don't believe in it is precisely because I cannot imagine that people around us suffer because they have been bad in another life. Too many factors can influence what become of us on this earth, even in this 'safe' society we live in. Especially where innocent little kids are involved. I do believe in the soul and that perhaps some people have the ability to 'mitbekommen' something of another soul which may belong to any other person, dead or alive. And that it must be fascinating when that happens."}, {"response": 56, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (15:53)", "body": "I don't believe that reincarnation has the goal of becoming something better in the next life--since no one can remember his/her past life in depth anyhow, and if anyone remembers anything about it at all, it's just shadows, how would a person know that they had moved up in the reincarnation ranks? No, I think it is more about obtaining wisdom--your soul grows in profoundness, and although you may not end up being wealthy or noble or whatever, you're still better off than a young soul who can't understan why they're doing what they're doing. If you have no wisdom, then you're wandering around in circles, not knowing why certain things keep happening to you over and over again, why you're never happy, etc."}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (16:36)", "body": "Alexander, I am afraid I am like you and have problems with anointed authority which gained that power just be luck of being born to certain parents. I am having enough trouble understanding what is happening in this life - I cannot even fathom another one. The Judeo-Christian framework into which I was born did not even consider the possibility of souls migrating and reappearing. You are an individual creation - there will never be another quite like you (unless you are Ree and her twin sister), and w en you die the soul goes back to the creator. End of story. I cannot improve on that because I know nothing else."}, {"response": 58, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (16:56)", "body": "Certainly I agree that religion has been abused by persons of authority as a means of controlling the masses (I'm a Marxist, for crying out loud,) but I think that using that as a good reason to not believe in reincarnation is throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Before the Reformation, the Catholic regimes of Europe were just as oppressive to the masses by promising them heaven if they shut up and did what they were told. And being reincarnated does not necessarily mean that you're not unique--you've just been \"recycled\" into something new. Is a purse made out of an old tire still an old tire? Well, it still has some of the characteristics of a tire, but it's now more of a purse than anything. (Okay, that was an odd analogy, but the best one I could think of.)"}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (17:07)", "body": "In our house, my father WAS power and control...and Santa Claus...and Daddy! Marxist or not, some of us need organization in our lives so the rest of the world does not run amok on us - but always subject to the approval of the electorate. I guess I have been so science-oriented for most of my life that para-anything is strange to me thus open to skepticism. I do not say it does not work or that it does not happen - but it does not for me."}, {"response": 60, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (17:09)", "body": "My dad had that kind of control too--but I was subversive!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (17:44)", "body": "Ah....I was the youngest by many years of three daughters. He though it was his duty to hand us over to our husbands as virgins...I wonder how well he succeeded. Anyway, by the time I arrived into the family, my submissiveness was expected and demanded. Just the inside of my head knew differently. It has taken me a long time to get rid of those old ghosts! Watch out world!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (22:32)", "body": "My strategy was to do everything my parents wanted in their presence, build up their trust, then misbehave and never have them suspect it. I still do it all the time, and now I'm to the point that I could sneak off and sleep with half of the university and they'd never suspect that I wasn't working away at the library!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (22:34)", "body": "Okay, so that sounded bad. I've never actually done that--I'm just saying that I could. The worst I've ever done is gotten drunk a few times."}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (22:48)", "body": "...as you wish, Princess...we believe you! (Did you see The Princess Bride\"? It was wonderful!) I have the most guileless mind. If you look at me sideways I'll confess to whatever you want to blame on me. I got the lickings as the littlest kid, anyway, so I said I did it often enough that no one believed I did anymore. Is that reverse logic? Anyway, I never got away with anything, so I never tried! I'm not sure that is a virtue, but that is Marcia."}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (22:49)", "body": "A good Irish Lass getting drunk??? Nevah!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (23:04)", "body": "To the Irish, getting drunk is a virtue!"}, {"response": 67, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (01:56)", "body": "ha-ha! Do they not suffer hangovers then? My parents used to always tell us, kids are nothing but trouble. So we acted the part. It must be hard when one is alone like you were, Marcia. Sonja and I just stuck together in everything we did - from sneaking out of the house at night to going shopping in town when we were supposed to go to school. There was a while when we were about 13, when we got really pissed off that we had to stay with my parents during term-time (the rest of the time we lived with my grandparents), so we decided to stay ou of school for as long as we possibly could. Every now and again some teacher would ring up, and I had this really good voice, and I'd say, 'No, Miss, Sonja and Ri\ufffdtte are very, very ill, and won't be coming to school for a long time.' We managed it for only 7 weeks - my father was headmaster of our school, and one of the teachers made a direct inquiry...."}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (10:18)", "body": "Seven weeks is an awesome stretch to pull off this mother of all hookey playing ventures. I think we have to award you the Spring's Austin Slacker Award for Meritorious Slacking. You deserve it, you rascally girls! This is your version of Ferris Bueller's Day Off!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (10:19)", "body": "only 7 weeks !!!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (13:03)", "body": "Some where, some how, your kids are going to bring home to you the enormity of concern your little vacation caused. When I was raising my son, an most compliant happy child, I wondered how I'd survived childhood and not been thrown out with the rubbish...! ONLY 7 WEEKS?! Yikes!!!"}, {"response": 71, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (15:50)", "body": "Well, I've never done anything like that... Nope, I've never had a hangover, either!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (21:17)", "body": "you guys are silly! *grin* i'm kinda like you, marcia, maybe it's a gemini trait. my dad was the despot, mom was next, i was the first-born and fave of the despot and my brother, the baby, my mom's. BUT, i could not do what i wanted or anything. i was obedient and fiercely loyal no matter what. to say that something i did in my last life brought on what happened to me is ludicrous. what could i have done to deserve it? certainly, my soul would never had tried that on anybody. instead, i think God gave that to me but not to hurt me, but rather because i was strong enough to deal with it and to handle it the way i did. He has done nothing but bless me and I am eternally grateful!"}, {"response": 73, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (21:35)", "body": "I'm a Gemini too..."}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (21:42)", "body": "Amy!!! You, too? When's your Birthday?"}, {"response": 75, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (21:48)", "body": "May 22--I'm just on the edge of being a Gemini. Did you know there is also a Celtic Astrological chart? I just found that out last week when I was looking for Celtic jewelry. I was born under the sign of Uath, the chalice, which means I have \"a flair for the dramatic and a strong sense of self\"...go figure!"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (22:44)", "body": "Mine is May 31, David's is May 14, and you share Olivier's birthday!"}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (22:52)", "body": "Oooh, you need to put that Celtic horoscope thingy on Porch / horoscope!!! Well, Wolfie, I was not cherished by the women in the family and did not appreciate my strict father till I was an adult. I absolutely adored him as a small child and as an adult. What a joy it was to know such an incredibly witty and intelligent man!"}, {"response": 78, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (22:53)", "body": "I know about sharing Olivier's birthday--isn't it exciting?!?"}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (22:57)", "body": "I guess !!! *big time sigh*"}, {"response": 80, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (22:58)", "body": "...and I know someone who knew his parents and HIM!!! (attended his father's church as a child, no less!)"}, {"response": 81, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (01:49)", "body": "Who is Olivier??? I don't like astrology charts. They always say my personality is unstable and lots of other unflattering things. But at least if I am, then so is my sister! ha-ha!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (09:43)", "body": "can't remember if we have an astrology topic in here but definitely put up the celtic one, that would be interesting. i'll see what info i can find about the chinese zodiac and get a topic going on that as well."}, {"response": 83, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (13:16)", "body": "It certainly is interesting stuff. How ARE you, woman???"}, {"response": 84, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (17:23)", "body": "Ree, Laurence Olivier was THE pre-eminent actor of the English-speaking world until his death some years ago. He was Knighted by the queen and later made Lord Olivier, Baron of Brighton. Oh my - I have 7 book at least about him - and 2 actually written by him. (He has his own sleeping topic in Drool...Topic 11)"}, {"response": 85, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (20:01)", "body": "i'm good, dear ree-head! am a bit grumpy though but i'll get over it. haven't looked for the chinese zodiac stuff yet. have had halloween stuff to do. just got back. they'll be trick-or-treating tomorrow night, which i think is a shame."}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (20:25)", "body": "they'll be trick-or-treating tomorrow night, which i think is a shame. because... 1. you don't get to go, too 2. you have to go, too 3. you'd druther it wasn't Hallowe'en 4. other ... ?"}, {"response": 87, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (20:41)", "body": "because it's a sunday night, they go to school the next day and i go to work. no time to enjoy trick-or-treating."}, {"response": 88, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (20:45)", "body": "I agree--trick-or-treating should be completely enjoyed for as long as possible. I always hated having to be home by a decent hour because I had to got to school the next day!"}, {"response": 89, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (17:27)", "body": "Yep! The used to change it to Saturday night when it fell on Sunday, here. But, unlike on the Mainland our kiddies stop coming to the door at 8PM sharp. I do not know how they know, but that has happened as long as I have been here! They also do not come to your door if your front porch light is not on."}, {"response": 90, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (19:08)", "body": "kids around here could care less if the porch light is on! anyway, i sat outside for an hour and the candy ran out."}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (20:06)", "body": "How much of it did you eat???!!! ( I never buy candy I don't like to eat!)"}, {"response": 92, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (13:29)", "body": "ha-ha!!! paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 18, "subject": "Zodiac", "response_count": 103, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (22:10)", "body": "ok, i'll go first, i'm a gemini if you can't already tell. i put no faith into astrology but find it an interesting read."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (22:58)", "body": "Make that two of us, but it is amazing how close those guys guess what I am really like. They must ask around to make themselves look better...huh?!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (23:00)", "body": "Wolfie, if you'd like me to link in porch conf horoscope to here just let me know...!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (23:24)", "body": "Since I've already started my Celtic Astrology chart on horoscopes, I'm going to continue it there, okay?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (23:57)", "body": "Want me to link it??? in it's own topic?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (23:58)", "body": "Better yet, do it in here - cut and past from the other site"}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (10:16)", "body": "i'll create a celtic astrology topic (sorry, forgot it when i posted the other two)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (20:36)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If someone reaches out to you in need today, share what you can. It will come back to you multiplied by the grace of the Great Spirit. You may be borrowing, or paying someone back - or alternatively, something will be returned to you - any way - the flow will be harmonious. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Your confidence and faith in the world around returns in full measure today. Expect the universe to surprise you with a special gift - and give back by tending to the flora and fauna all around you. Play with your pets, talk to your plants, or hug a tree - and give thanks for their presence. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Your 'inner child' will be more like a querulous infant today. Don't allow fluctuating emotions to lead you into doing something that you know perfectly well is silly. You may be hesitant about the future, or alternatively, tempted to leap before you look. Leave important decisions for another day and indulge yourself in something pleasurable and harmless today. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Fire sign people and Water sign people will be at loggerheads today - small wonder! But water - if you play it right - can very easily douse the flames coming your way, and there will be no harm done at the end of it all. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Air sign women will be your special \"earth angels' today watch for them. Your intellect and powers of communication are on high - use them. Angel Message for Fire Element People Your angels bring the seeds of action, adventure and positive business developments. Be patient and enjoy how the seeds grow. Angel Message for Air Element People: You will find loving support all around you if you look for it today - if you are happy, people will be happy for you. Angel Message For Water Element People If you don't like where your boat is docked, take out the oar and paddle a little. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (20:47)", "body": "never heard of angel blessings before. neat!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (20:54)", "body": "I'm gonna be getting these at regular intervals. Where should I post them?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (21:04)", "body": "zodiac type stuff? well, right here (and maybe in genx)"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (21:30)", "body": "I was warned not to read anything in GenX by someone aware of my feelings and what was there before I got there. I have never been there...other places are as painful for me to read as I want to be."}, {"response": 13, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (21:36)", "body": "ok, here is fine *hugs*"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (21:53)", "body": "It's interesting - never saw one quite like it so I subscribed!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (21:59)", "body": "is this on that list you sent me? it's interesting!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (22:11)", "body": "Either that or another one I found this morning. Would you like that one, as well?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (22:17)", "body": "They are on their way to you! Happy subscribing and be sure to scroll all the way down first so you see what a huge selection they have."}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (14:27)", "body": "will check them out...."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (20:24)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may hit a little bump in the road in relationships today - whether it be friends, lovers or family. Remember that disagreement is inevitable in all human relationships - that does not make the relationship any less valuable. Use any conflicts from today as lessons on how you want to behave in the future. You will gain important wisdom. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Here we go again - instead of counting your blessings, Fire sign people may be dwelling on the negatives again. Charming as you usually are - it will be hard for others to deal with any grumpiness from you today - so identify what exactly is bothering you - deal with it - then let it go. A load or burdensome obligation will be lifted for you today. Hurray, enjoy! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you've been feeling like it's always the 'same old, same old' lately, get ready - today will bring new life and enthusiasm to motivate you. Do something different today, accept an unusual invitation, make new friends, and get out of that rut - you'll be happy you did. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Expect others to ask you for guidance and advice today - even though you don't feel it - others see you as serene and wise. Don't disappoint them - give them the best that you've got! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People A youngster or someone with difficulties may threaten to 'run away from home'. Wise guidance would be well-received. Minor frustrations will soon pass. Angel Message for Fire Element People Recognizing and dealing with the ties that bind bring you wonderful new horizons - the world is waiting for you! Angel Message for Air Element People: You may feel you're on the magical mystery tour today - special secrets may be revealed to you of you are open to the 'unseen'. Angel Message For Water Element People A secret will be revealed, or a new way of seeing things will allow everything to flow again. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (20:21)", "body": "Tarotscope - Monday, March 13, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Put your nose to the grindstone today and reap the benefits of good clean work and a job well done. If you\ufffdre shooting for a raise, your efforts will pay off. You are nimble fingered today, so if you work at arts, crafts or hobbies make some time for that too you\ufffdll be pleased with the results. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius \ufffdSee no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil\ufffd will be your motto today, regardless of what others around you are up to. Watch out for double-dealers and remember, if an offer is too good to be true, it probably is. You may be the only one that stands tall in the crowd today. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You will likely start the week with a full plate of responsibilities like perhaps starting to do your income taxes YUK! And to top everything off others will likely be wanting your support and advice in all kinds of personal matters. That\ufffds what you get for being so competent! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You\ufffdll be running in a zillion different directions today if not physically, then for sure mentally. Be careful how your build those castles in the air a good strong wind may knock them right over and you\ufffdll have to start all over again. On the other hand, a good strong wind can clear the fog away. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People The bigger the changes you allow into your life today, the brighter the future. Allow the transformation to happen. Angel Message for Fire Element People If you are backed into a corner, the angels will help you defend yourself fairly and righteously. Angel Message for Air Element People: The requests and demands of others may be draining your strength but you can count on your angels for assistance. Angel Message For Water Element People If you are running around in confused circles, you may have to call a permanent end to an unwanted obligation. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (20:29)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn There may be delays and minor difficulties in partnerships and negotiations today, so don\ufffdt press the issues. People may back down and withdraw their support, and small print issues may surface where deals are being considered, so keep your eyes wide open. If you are shopping, you may end up spending more than what is fair, so think twice before making major expenditures. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The proverbial ball gets rolling today and you\ufffdre aiming for a strike! If you\ufffdve laid the groundwork well, all kinds of good things are sprouting for you. And while you\ufffdre enjoying the action, keep your eyes and ears open for even more good news and happy opportunities. You may get \ufffdcauliflower ear\ufffd from being on the phone too long. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A great day for business and career matters, adventures and new experiences. Don\ufffdt hold back you of all people know to strike while the iron is hot. Pleasant surprises of all kinds await! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces The sun will shine for you today no matter what the weather is outside. Your world will have a golden glow and attainment is at hand. A great day to spend with good friends or loved ones. Can you just feel the summer coming? Oh, yeah! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People If others aren\ufffdt being supportive, keep smiling and keep at it anyway you can be your own best friend, you know. Angel Message for Fire Element People Balance your love of action with some creative pursuits or quiet contemplation a beautiful harmony will envelop you. Angel Message for Air Element People: If it feels like one step forward and one step back stop a minute the world might be spinning just a little out of sync with you, so adjust your clocks. Angel Message For Water Element People Hope is renewed and past hurts can be let go today ah, what freedom! Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (20:55)", "body": "For Wednesday, March 15, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today holds a lot of promise for financial and business matters of all kinds. The seeds have been planted if you tend them carefully they will grow. Good news of all kinds will come in the mail, in phone calls, in your e-mail take pleasure in all the new opportunities being presented to you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A woman in your life provides balance, groundedness and the practical approach you need. Be gracious and accept help where it is offered you\ufffdll be happy you did. And remember, the magnificent oak grows from a little acorn, so be patient. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Anything started yesterday, especially business or career negotiations should be quickly concluded today and you will reap the benefits before you know it. Success and abundance is all about you keep your eyes open and be ready to catch the ball when it is tossed to you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Raise a glass and toast a friend or loved one today. You will be seeing eye to eye, and looking down the same spiritual path with significant others. A great day to reach agreements or make commitments. Opposites attract. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Plans may not turn out exactly as expected today especially where others are involved. That\ufffds OK you take the high road, let them take the low road. Angel Message for Fire Element People Pushing your weight around will only hurt others and will not advance your cause at all, so measure the force you apply carefully. Angel Message for Air Element People: You may feel caught in the eye of a storm today, but those lightning bolts overhead will not harm you they will only illuminate the future.. Angel Message For Water Element People A partner or friend you choose may not meet the approval of everyone around you. Your own soul will tell you if it\ufffds right for you. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (21:14)", "body": "you know what? the readings for our signs in here and the ones in porch are different...."}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (21:25)", "body": "I know - and I post both of them! Pay your money and take your choice *lol* Shall I stop posting one or the other?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (21:40)", "body": "no, actually it's quite interesting and allows us the choice! *grin*"}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "That's what I figured! *grinning back at ya*"}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (21:44)", "body": "i liked this reading better than the one in porch! *laugh*"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "Me too! Which of us is gonna be the Magnificent Oak?! *grin*"}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (20:20)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If you\ufffdve been feeling bored or lethargic, get ready for a turn-around today. Expect invitations and some pleasant moving and shaking from all around you today it\ufffds time to get out of the routine and the rut and enjoy the breath of fresh air your world is offering you. If nothing seems to be happening, pick up the phone and call an old friend you\ufffdll both be glad you did. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Buy yourself a posy of flowers today, or even a garland to hang up in your special room. You will reach a milestone today, or celebrate a rite of passage. Family life, marriage, trips and retreats are all highlighted, as well as material and spiritual growth. Enjoy! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A little gossip or even maneuvering never stopped you before, so don\ufffdt let it bother you today. If others are jealous, take pride in that which you\ufffdve accomplished by the sweat of your brow and never mind what others are saying. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces As well as things have been going, you\ufffdve been forgetting you still need some physical R & R. You may feel that you\ufffdre running too fast to stop but if you apply the brakes really slowly you can make that much needed pit-stop. ANGEL WHISPERS Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People You may be tempted to be a little high-handed today watch what your actions and words are conveying and don\ufffdt burn any bridges behind you. Angel Message for Fire Element People You will feel like the King or Queen of the land today and you will be equally admired for your personal strengths. Angel Message for Air Element People: Others around you may be out of sorts it will be up to you to remember that love is not a commodity that can ever be used up. The more you give, the more you receive. Angel Message For Water Element People If you\ufffdre a little tired or burnt out today delegate. There are plenty of willing and capable people around you who can help. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (20:24)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It\ufffds only March, but today is perfect for dancing around the Maypole. Spend time with friends and share the love and the energies of spring. A celebration or party will be lots of fun and as good times are meant to be shared, embrace those around you and they will embrace you right back. Watch for lucky 3\ufffds today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A favourite saying of Grandma\ufffds will come to mind today. Those old wive\ufffds tales were based in much wisdom and truth. Take a little pause today and reflect on the truths you have forgotten, the inner self that you rarely allow to speak, and those hidden dreams that you hold so deep inside you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You can expect some minor problems on the maternal front today if you\ufffdre a Mom you\ufffdll be feeling a little overwhelmed and under appreciated otherwise, you own mother may be feeling neglected. Open your heart and let go of any blockages to giving and receiving love and nurturing. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Pack up all your cares and woes, put them in your swimsuit pocket, and take the plunge. It\ufffds time for moving on and the coast is clearing right before you. A great day to \ufffdget away from it all\ufffd your power number is 6. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People The party may be for someone else and not you, but share their good fortune and rejoice in their pleasures you could be next. Angel Message for Fire Element People Finding that peace and calm within will allow you to enjoy the beautiful fruits of your labours. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you\ufffdre happy and you know it clap your hands\ufffd\ufffd and count your blessings. Angel Message For Water Element People New vistas may beckon and you are deserving and appreciative of their beauty. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 19, 2000 (20:17)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A battle of wills may be in the works today - or a clash of interests. You can rise to the challenge, no problem, and if you have any excess energy or frustrations to work off, go to the gym or put those boxing gloves on - find a worthy opponent and duke it out. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You are the very definition of a worry wart today - and you are likely to stay up all night going in mental circles, or you'll do your worrying in your sleep. Try to let it go - self-doubt and regret have no place in planning for tomorrow. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra This week may be just a teensy bit difficult starting off - not everything will work out as planned today and you may have a tendency to be a bit impetuous or hasty. Others around you could be a little unreliable, and money matters a bit slow. Never mind - all difficulties are minor and will pass quickly. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Planned events or outings with other people may be disappointing today, or may simply not materialize. There may some distress or conflict in your social circle today, but don't let it get you down. You can always find something fulfilling to do even when you are left to your own devices, so take advantage of any free time you find today and indulge yourself with something fun. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Don't let fear of 'rocking the boat' keep you in an unpleasant situation. Once you cross the troubled waters, your course will be pleasantly smooth. Angel Message for Fire Element People A firm, generous and practical natured person will be your earth angel today. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your angels will give you some wise advice or light a beacon for you through an older person. Angel Message For Water Element People Enjoy your SELF today. You can create magic. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 20, 2000 (20:23)", "body": "Tarotscope for March 21, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn All work and no play make Jack a dull boy, so if you're not getting anywhere today, get away from your desk and have some fun. Also, watch out for butterfingers today if you're working with tools or equipment - there's a good chance you'll bang your thumb or bop yourself one if you're not paying close enough attention. With your mind all over the place - don't choose today to ask for a raise. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Just hanging out and watching the world go by can bring an enlightening new viewpoint today. Don't make any moves until you are ready to - no one is pushing you so take your time and enjoy the moment. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may be feeling a bit dumped on today, but you nevertheless shoulder the burden and carry on. There may be a lot of pressure on you at the moment - but nothing will stop you from continuing toward your goals. See if you can convince someone to give you a nice massage - you could really use it. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces New people, invitations or opportunities may present themselves today, and you should come out of that cocoon you are in and explore the world. If you have been feeling bored or apathetic lately, today is a great day to do something different to bring new movement and energy into your day to day routine. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People It is a day to be gracious - if something turns out in an unforeseen yet inevitable way, just smile and get over it. Your angels understand. Angel Message for Fire Element People Your angels bless you with patience, prudence and practicality today. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your angels send you the number 10 - representing the completion of a cycle and the beginning of a new one. Angel Message For Water Element People Are the restrictions you live by really necessary? Do what is right for you and never mind what others think. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (20:20)", "body": "Taroscope for March 22, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're back in charge of things again - the world is your oyster and you are handling things like a benevolent dictator - so all is right with your world. Authority and conservatism work for you today, so stick to your course. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The open roads beckon - literally or metaphorically - so grab your walking stick and take that hike. Partnerships may be forming, invitations may be flowing - don't hesitate to climb on the bandwagon and rock 'n roll with the gang. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Yesterday's stresses begin to fade away and past hurts and difficulties suddenly don't seem so important. A great day to get back on your feet, confront whatever problems you've been dealing with, and move on. Your angels and guides ask you to lean on them for support if you need it. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be strongly reminded today of how much your friends and loved ones really care about you. Although they are sometimes a little lackadaisical in showing their true affection, rest assured that people appreciate you and really enjoy having you around. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People An angel may appear to you in the form of a kindly and helpful man - if you are ready to trust. Angel Message for Fire Element People If you're on the road today, don't be afraid to kick up your heels and march to your own drummer. Angel Message for Air Element People: The seeds of opportunity and adventure planted some time ago begin to sprout today. Angel Message For Water Element People Bask in self-confidence and security today. You really do have it all, you know. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (13:51)", "body": "Tarotscope for March 23, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If you've been setting the groundwork for some wheeling and dealing - today will get things moving for you. Partnerships and joint ventures are highlighted - and it's a great day to outsell the salesman. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Closing your eyes won't make the world go away! If you are feeling unbalanced or indecisive, look deep within and ask that little voice to tell you what you should do. You can't escape making the decision forever, but you can proceed slowly until you are more sure. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Take a little time today to speak to your inner self - and listen for the answers. They may come in intuitions, dreams, or unmistakable gut feelings. Whichever way your intuitions manifests, honour your wisdom and don't hesitate to share it. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Letting go of old grievances, for you, can be a bit like pulling out a barbed bee sting. It hurts almost as much coming out as it did going in. But if you do get rid of that stinger, healing begins immediately - so maybe it's time to begin the process. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People An angel or spirit guide nudges you and assists with material acquisitions and self-confidence - let it happen. Angel Message for Fire Element People If you're stuck in any area today, rest assured that a friend, maybe even a new one, will offer emotional support. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your angels and guides will help you see through the material ties that bind. Just shake those ties off! Angel Message For Water Element People Swift decisions and actions are most often the right ones - go with your instincts. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (19:31)", "body": "March 24, 2000 Tarotscope EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're sitting tall in the saddle today - good for you. Sticks and stones can break your bones, but names can never hurt you. You are ready to defend yourself and loved ones against anything and everything - no one could question your courage. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Abracadabra! The world is what you make of it today. Just wave that magic wand of yours and people will sit up and take notice - especially when the rabbit jumps out of the hat. Whatever your passion is - do it today - cook a fine meal, do some crystal ball gazing, or indulge in your favourite crafts - you'll be surprised at what you can come up with. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Your recent efforts will be rewarded today. Stand tall and enjoy your triumphs - they are well deserved. And if you feel like taking that victory lap - go for it - enjoy the attention and share the glory. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Take a moment today to just sit quietly, breathe deeply, and find a quiet place within you. Even a five minute break will do wonders. Honour the life force within you and let that little voice say its piece. You may gain some surprising and wonderful new perspective on life. ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Someone may nudge you today, causing you to 'spill the wine' - never mind - there is more where that came from. Angel Message for Fire Element People Your key word today is transformation. You may need to let go of something to allow new life and growth into your life. Angel Message for Air Element People: Someone will be very proud of you or happy for you today. Embrace the emotional gifts from those who care about you. Angel Message For Water Element People Be careful what you wish for today - it's time to do some soul searching. Your angels are there to help. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (21:49)", "body": "MArch 27, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Life is a highway - and you're at the crest of the hill today - surveying the beauty and bounty all around you. The world is full of possibilities and you're riding high. Stretch your arms high in the air and soak up the wonders of the universe through every pore in your body. You might also want to make a toast to Lady Luck. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're the boss - whether you asked to be or not. There is an aura of confidence and kindly authority about you today - use it to your advantage and spread your knowledge and intellect to all those who ask. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you're looking at balancing the accounts today - it may seem there's way more outgo than income. Remember, though, that nothing is carved in stone - what is down one day may be up the next. If someone has been dangling a carrot in front of your nose, it may be time to say pay, don't play. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's a good day for dealing with money matters, balancing the books, or dropping a little extra into the piggy bank. Investments and security are highlighted, whether you're talking to your stockbroker or rolling up your pennies. Be prudent - it will pay off in the long run. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People The road to destiny may look free and clear from where you stand, but others may not see things so clearly. Be prepared to go around obstacles and help others on your way. Angel Message for Fire Element People You may need to keep your eyes wide open today to protect what is rightfully yours. If you lose something on the material plane today, try to look at the bigger picture. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your angels manifest in the form of a Queen of Hearts - a compassionate woman will make a difference today. Angel Message For Water Element People Don't spend too much time in the bank vaults counting your money - you will lose touch with true wonders of the universe. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (05:34)", "body": "I think that's a hint for me 6to get off line and save the pennies!!!! *grin*"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (12:58)", "body": "Which Month/element is yours? Wolfie and I are both Geminis"}, {"response": 39, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (16:16)", "body": "July/Cancer/water Don't believe it! Daughter 1 is Gemini *sigh*"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (16:59)", "body": "I know a Cancerian for whom it just might be a cruel impossibility. Don't like mine as a Gemini, either. Look at the one posted on Porch 55. Those are better."}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (21:35)", "body": "March 28, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Botticelli's famous Birth of Venus has nothing on the loving, beautiful women in your life, or you for that matter. Kindness and compassion flow around you and through you like the gentle nurturing waves of the sea on a calm day - soak it in! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Even if you're just hanging out and kicking back today, the universe will make you offers you just can't ignore. Take what is offered and run with it, but remember that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may not want to leave the party today, even though the band has packed up and called it a night. You'll just get depressed though if you sit in an empty room by yourself, so why not go home and come back another day? WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's a great day to escape for a little fun with your friends, perhaps for a quick lunch or a drink after work. Focus on the bonds you have with your friends, not the differences. If you can't get out today, then maybe you could plan a get-together or celebration for the very near future. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Enjoy the beauty of nature in whatever way you can today and be ready to accept wonderful surprises with grace and honour. Angel Message for Fire Element People Don't let minor delays or disappointments colour your world today. If you look beyond the little things, you will see much hope for the future (even as soon as tomorrow)! Angel Message for Air Element People: Sticks and stones may fly about, but trust your angels to support you, even if you feel your courage slipping. They are there whenever you need them, you know. Angel Message For Water Element People If someone in the group or at home is dissatisfied or unhappy, try extra hard to see things from their point of view - even if just for the moment. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (01:51)", "body": "I'm trying!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (20:16)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If there's a goal you've been trying to reach, today is the day to jump high and grab the prize. And don't forget to let yourself enjoy the many admiring glances that will come your way when the trophy goes to you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Others may be looking at things in black and white, but you can combine those colours and come up with every imaginable shade of gray. Harness your special skills and talents today, and set a straight course. You are in the driver's seat, just where you like to be. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may find people around you immature or even argumentative today, but you'll know better than to take the bait and get drawn into a no-win situation. If you're feeling restless, try to work it off with some exercise, or perhaps do some work on a spiritual level - you haven't had much time for that lately. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be pleasantly surprised by a gift or some other material pleasure today - and the best thing is - you deserve it! Pamper your pets, talk to your plants - connect with Mother Nature today. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Go with the number six in all that you do today (it's lucky!). Express yourself with unabashed love. Take that stroll through Paradise - and if you have a special someone to walk with - all the better to share! Angel Message for Fire Element People It's time to share the load if help is offered. Martyrdom is not usually the best course, so accept help graciously. Angel Message for Air Element People: Short term difficulties can be brushed away like troublesome insects - the long term picture is what is important and what brings you true peace of mind. Angel Message For Water Element People Your ship may be coming in today - literally or symbolically. A careful balancing act and good planning pays off. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (20:23)", "body": "Being aGemini, like you Marcia I guess I filled my quota for exercise today. Walked 10 miles. Cleaned up the yard of debris from a storm the night before, whick took up an hour."}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (21:39)", "body": "You are not just a Gemini, Lucie...you are a clean one!!! Wish I could have walked with you! Welcome!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (20:59)", "body": "Wish you had been along. A beautiful eagle flew over my head carrying a fish and landed on a light pole about a half block away, where he started eating. He screed at me for a few seconds when I got near his perch then flew off with his catch."}, {"response": 47, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (21:17)", "body": "guess he thought you were gonna shimmy up that pole and steal his meal!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (11:22)", "body": "*lol* Lucie! I can see you shimmying up that pole now... Was there much light coloring on this eagle? It just might have been as osprey. Wish I had been there, too."}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (12:59)", "body": "March 30, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may be a little impatient today, and prone to make hasty decisions. People around you may seem to be going out of their way to be difficult, so let life blow as it will and you can take control again tomorrow. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If you have to sit at a desk today, it's probably going to drive you nuts. If you can, try to find work or pastimes that deal with the big picture, and leave the detail work for another day. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You are usually the first to translate thought into action, and it might be driving you nuts to find your hands are tied today. If you can't get things moving on the physical plane, use the time to look at the situation from all angles - you'll probably find a few loopholes with your sharp intellect. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You have a handle on your life and it shows. You balance work, family and your personal needs - in a way that is immensely satisfying Think 'gold' today - enjoy the rich, warm and spiritual connotations of the colour, as well as its symbolism of beauty and wealth. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People An important goal or project may come to happy fruition today. When in doubt, look at the bigger picture - it's a wide wonderful world out there. Angel Message for Fire Element People Rewards and recognition may seem slow in coming, but to everything there is a season. Be patient. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your angels may appear in the unlikeliest of forms today - a rock-solid and down to earth person will help you or give you good advice. Angel Message For Water Element People Your charm, good will and generosity shine like a halo around your head - no wonder people are attracted to you. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (20:56)", "body": "He had the white head and tailfeathers and dark body. We have a lot of eagles around here."}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (16:11)", "body": "You saw a Bald Eagle! I saw one wild, live and free in the high Sierra of California. What an incredible sight! Tarotscope for March 31, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Doctor, Lawyer, Chief - they are all there for you today, and full of positive advice and influence. You, too, command respect today - and your intellect and natural authority shine. When you've had enough of other chores today, go out and do some trimming in the garden - your touch will be just right. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Three might definitely be a crowd today, and believe it or not, even two might be one too many. Do your own thing and never mind who's with you and who isn't. You don't need anyone to lead you by the hand. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra It's time to let others stand on their own two feet today. People find it easy to lead on you for comfort and support, and it's time to shoo those little birds out of the nest and let them try out their own wings. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces TGIF! The workweek ends - and not a moment too soon. You've been burning the candle at both ends, and it suddenly catches up to you. A lingering indisposition may return if you don't get some rest, so set your priorities and make some time for relaxation too. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People If there are any past regrets or unfinished business holding you back, try to identify them exactly, and then cut those cords. You can do it. Angel Message for Fire Element People Beauty and harmony reign supreme and love is in the air. The angels send you the symbol of a pure white lily bursting forth from a jungle of greenery. Angel Message for Air Element People: A positive turn about in financial or career matters probably has smiling angels behind the scenes. Angel Message For Water Element People It's time to slow down a little and let your spirit guide you. Your guardian angel is especially close, as you will notice when you really open your heart. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr  2, 2000 (20:25)", "body": "April 3, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're likely to get some recognition or a pat on the back today - enjoy it. You deserve it. If all else fails, stand tall anyway and smile. People will wonder what you're up to. If you're looking for a lucky number this week, try 6! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Today will find you checking your bank balance or putting some money in your piggy bank. Or perhaps you'll be clipping coupons or lifting the sofa cushions for change - it's definitely a money-oriented day. Keep your eyes on the sidewalk if you're out and about - who knows what you'll find? AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Today may find you teetering at the edge of the diving board, telling yourself Jump, Don't Jump. Your inner child will be more rambunctious than usual, and may need a little discipline. If your feeling out of sorts and indecisive today - don't get down on yourself - just try to find a constructive way to get it out of your system. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may hear some unpleasant news about someone's health today, so you should be ready to lend any emotional support you can. On the bright side, you are 'getting over' something, whether it's some minor health problems or a difficult situation or relationship conflict - there's definite improvement in the air. **** Angel Message for Earth Element People Not everyone will see things your way today, but you are in the position to be kind and generous, so why not do so! Angel Message for Fire Element People Business and money matters are looking good today - just be prudent and responsible as you usually are. Angel Message for Air Element People: Lack of focus may result in a lot of wasted energy so ask you angels to help you channel your energy for the best possible results. Forgive someone's unkind words today - they were more silly than purposefully hurtful. Angel Message For Water Element People An important decision or viewpoint that feels just right in your heart will manifest in a joyous way today. Hold your arms up in the air for a moment and reach for the sky - it's yours for the taking! Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (15:59)", "body": "Response 47 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 3, 2000 (21:56) * 55 lines April 4, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Take out your old daytimer or address book and look up an old friend or loved one today. Or, send someone a flower or write them a little note to show you care. Children and colleagues will be a joy to be around. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If you've been playing the hermit lately, you'll find people dragging you by the arm today to get back into the action. Yeah, yeah - things have been a little dull (you think), but there are a lot of people waiting for YOU to liven things up! Go for it!. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If it's raining sticks and stones today - DUCK! You were just about to reach out and grab that brass ring - and somebody yanked it away. That's ok - let them play their silly games - you just stay on course and you'll wind the day anyway! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces If it feels like the weight of the world is on your shoulders, it's because you keep volunteering to carry the whole load! Take it easy, for heaven's sake. Also, if you jump too quickly into heavy physical tasks, you may find yourself paying the price with sore muscles so slow down! ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Enjoy your daydreams - the angels are there! In fact, they are everywhere! Angel Message for Fire Element People Try not to let any stresses of the day affect your rest - at night-time, feel your guardian angel's arms enfold you and chase away those cares and worries. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you find yourself in an unpleasant situation, stop struggling for a moment and re-examine the situation. The resulting clarity will resolve things like magic. Angel Message For Water Element People You may be more emotional, intuitive and sensitive than usual today (even for you) - so pay attention to that special inner knowledge. It's a gift. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (20:31)", "body": "April 5, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A long-awaited goal will come to fruition today, or at least you will feel a phase or life cycle has been completed. It will be an 'all's well that ends well' kind of day, so make the most of it! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius OK, you know they didn't promise you a rose garden, but what's with the jungle of weeds? It may be time to decide if it's worth struggling through the underbrush to find the bloom. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Do you believe in magic? Call it what you will - synchronicity, alchemy, divine assistance - you just need to wave your magic wand today to manifest your desires. All the tools you need are on the table - and you may find a few surprises up your sleeve, too!. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Take some time today to sit in the garden, or by a quiet lake or river. If you can't do that, then spend some time in a window seat and enjoy the wonders of nature. Breathe in the bounty of the earth wherever you see it and you will find yourself refreshed physically as well as spiritually. Connect with Mother Earth - she'll be happy. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Sticking to your moral principles will earn you the respect of others as well as satisfying your own soul - but remember to accept change in your wisdom too. Angel Message for Fire Element People Optimism reigns today - and your angels will rejoice when you help your fellow man. Don't forget to wish upon a star tonight. Angel Message for Air Element People: Wisdom often comes with age - but it's really the result of experience. Listen to where others are 'coming from' - you never know when the smallest tidbit of wisdom can light up a whole new path for you. Angel Message For Water Element People Call your Mom to say hi today, or if you are a Mom, round up the kids and share some fun with them - family relationships have special magic today. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (20:38)", "body": "Watch out world. Tomorrow Wolfie and I are gonna wave our magic wands! WooHoo!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (20:40)", "body": "are charms will be on tomorrow! let's hope so."}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (20:52)", "body": "Like I said...watch out world...*grin* If we combine ours do you think...*sigh* *wish*...*hope*..."}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr  6, 2000 (19:12)", "body": "April 6, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You will be a little bit impetuous and likely to have ants in your pants today. If you are ready for action, but things aren't happening fast enough for you, get out there and shake things up a bit. Just watch out for those who'd rather trip you up than help you out. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may have your sights set on new horizons, new ventures and the open road today. There really nothing to hold you back - so follow that yellow brick road. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you've ever tried your hand at bowling, you'll know what it feels like to throw one gutterball after another. It happens. But you also know that when you focus, and believe, you can throw strike after strike - once they start coming, it's hard to stop! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces There's a lot to be said for the good old days, but don't forget, today will soon be tomorrow's good old days, so live every moment and take joy in today. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People You may need to forgive a troublemaker today - just remember that by forgiving, you free yourself. Angel Message for Fire Element People Wisdom and compassion are a compelling duo. Angel Message for Air Element People: If the big picture isn't quite to your liking today, break it apart into little, easier to deal with pictures. You will bring new energy and positive opportunities to light. Angel Message For Water Element People You will resonate strongly with the number 6 today - try to use its vibrations for creativity and self-confidence. In the Angelic realm, number 6 represents love and balance - hold these thoughts inside today. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr  6, 2000 (23:09)", "body": "April 7, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Yesterday's impatient attitude may be magnified today. Instead of brashly blundering ahead, use this time to take stock of where you've been and how far you've come. Are you still on the right road or is it time to adjust your course? Be especially careful with finances and investments today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If you've been carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders, today may find you getting the straw that broke the camel's back. But maybe that's a good thing - it will teach you that you can't do everything, by yourself, all the time. Share the load! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may be fidgety, restless and downright cranky today. Rather like a young child who refuses to take a nap even though it's long overdue. Try to make a little time for yourself - even if you can only spare a few minutes - and let your mind take you to your special 'happy place'. You'll feel a world better afterwards. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be feeling lazy or uninspired today. You'll be taking another look at the value of some projects you've recently come up with. It's ok to reconsider, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Angel Message for Earth Element People If you are unbalanced or feeling stuck today, take a deep breath and breathe in your angel's love - things will soon get moving. Angel Message for Fire Element People Can you think of anyone who may be feeling lonely or misunderstood? Reach out and let them know someone cares. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you're not happy with your material or worldly situation today, spend some time contemplating other blessings. Making an entry in your gratitude journal will bring you great peace and renewed joy. Angel Message For Water Element People If you're emotionally scattered today, use your time for worldly matters instead. Great new financial and material opportunities are at hand. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 10, 2000 (14:41)", "body": "April 10, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn The beginning of this week may find you worrying about finances, income taxes, and legal or corporate matters - it's likely to be a bit of a downer. A sure-fire way to lift yourself out of a dispirited mood is to help someone less fortunate than yourself. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If you don't like borrowing and lending - then open yourself to giving and receiving. Allowing the abundance to flow will improve everyone's situation - like a bounteous ripple in the ocean. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra With your humanitarian spirit, you may find it hard to believe that there are those who actually enjoy causing mischief or creating discontent, but you may find your eyes opening to just such a situation today. Let it just serve as a small reminder that you can show a great example by staying 'above it all'. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You will be reminded of that saying today 'yes - you CAN have it all.' and you'll be feeling you have your world pretty well organized. If anyone can do it - you can. It's a day of accomplishments and self-esteem. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your angels may have a different concept of material security than you do, but never doubt that you'll be just fine in the long run. Angel Message for Fire Element People If a cloud blocks out the light in the sky - the angels will help it pass very quickly. Angel Message for Air Element People: Dwelling on losses and hurts may cause you to overlook the true bounty that is yours. Angel Message For Water Element People By picking up the pieces of an earlier venture, you will find much that is valuable. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 11, 2000 (14:44)", "body": "April 11, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It seems like you're getting a chance to relive some of the high points of last week all over again - if it worked for you last week, don't hesitate to do it again! Children and old friends will bring you joy. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If anything's getting you down today - look it straight in the face and stare it down. After all, who's the boss? AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Ready or not - there is some major transformation set to occur in your life. Air element people will be able to see a glimpse of the bigger picture - and appreciate the cycles of life and nature manifested by the universe WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces The sun will shine for you today no matter what the weather. Harmony and optimism are in the air - and relationships, plans and projects glow with the promise of success. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your closest angel is a little boy today - enjoy the snakes and snails and puppy dog tails. Angel Message for Fire Element People It's good to be alone for the right reasons, but not as an escape from the truth. Angel Message for Air Element People: Great inner strength and healing ability shines from your being. Angel Message For Water Element People God's in his heaven, and all's right with the world. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 12, 2000 (12:44)", "body": "April 12, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today will find you wondering whether it's six of one or half a dozen of the other. A decision will be called for but it will bring balance and harmony once it's made. Be ready for some romance, too! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If you're feeling proud of yourself today - go ahead and strut! Why not? You'll probably find the world's smiling with you and stepping in to join you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Life may deal you a shock, trauma or surprise today that will likely throw you for a loop. Whether this is on the physical or the emotional plane, remember that those sudden jolts in our lives are an inescapable part of living - and April showers bring May flowers. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may find yourself temporarily 'de-railed' today, so take things slowly. Rushing headlong down the road may cause trouble, whereas a slow and steady course will allow you to detour around obstacles in your way. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Offer your question to the angels - and listen carefully - once you've made the decision the sense of relief you feel will assure you that your angels helped! Angel Message for Fire Element People Someone will recognize your wisdom and spirituality today. Angel Message for Air Element People: Not all is as it seems on the surface - your angels ask you to look beyond the obvious. Angel Message For Water Element People Forgot your flashlight? Let your angels send a glowing beam to light your path. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (15:02)", "body": "They have not been sending them very regularly of late... April 20, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Life may be a bit of a roller coaster today - no sooner do you reach the glorious pinnacle of exhilaration than you take a dizzying plunge into the unknown. Well - that's the whole fun of it - by the time you catch your breath you're climbing back to a new viewpoint! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius This is a pretty positive day on the financial and business front - and a good day to get things moving, especially some situations which have been stagnating for a while. Follow the bouncing ball but keep your feet on the ground and you will achieve progress today. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Cranky and difficult people may try to bring you down or block your way today - but remember that external events really only pass by you, and don't define you. Stand up to bullies in your own soul - and don't give away your inner strength. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be tempted to get down on yourself if you realize you are not Superman or Superwoman today. No-one can do EVERYTHING - so priorities and take pride in what you can accomplish - and leave the rest to someone else. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your angels will help you if you need to let go of something or deal with a 'shift' today. Angel Message for Fire Element People Change sometimes requires taking a pause, or even a step backward. Trust in the ultimate positive outcome of well-laid plans. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you don't like the scenery, or the company - walk away! Angel Message For Water Element People Your angels suggest that fear of the unknown may be causing you to cling to an unhealthy situation. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (22:32)", "body": "April 24, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn The keynote today is decisions - either you are having trouble making one so that you can move on, or a past decision is making repercussions felt. You might be a little overly critical or judgmental today, so think before you say something which could cause major damage. Health problems may also be an issue - especially stress related problems - so today would be a good day to sit back and relax. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A planned get-together may be postponed or cancelled, much to your disappointment or dismay. Remember though - the universe may have better plans for you if just wait. You may be tempted to be pouty or sulky today - if you're going to wallow in your emotions - try not to bring others down too. Emotional release can be rejuvenating - but you can let it all out in privacy. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're riding so high on the Ferris wheel of life of life today that you could laugh out loud for the sheer exhilaration of it. Keep your eyes open and seize those wonderful opportunities you can nab on your way up. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're going to be dreaming about 'the big escape' today but chances are you won't have any time to yourself until tomorrow at the earliest. That is, unless, you lock yourself in your room, put on the eye shades and don't forget the earplugs. Someone may annoy you by talking about their aches and pains incessantly today - just tune it out. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your angels ask you to let other people come to their own conclusions in their own time - we are not all on the same spiritual or philosophical timetable. Angel Message for Fire Element People If three's a crowd, find a way to enjoy a little companionship 'a deux'. Angel Message for Air Element People: Worry and fear can tie you in knots so you can't reach out for the brass ring. Your angels can help you make sure that won't happen. Trust them. Angel Message For Water Element People You may be feeling a bit worn out, but you're just going to keep on ticking like a Timex. Your angels bring you hope. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (00:31)", "body": "April 25, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn An argument, relationship difficulty, a rift or separation could be weighing on you today - or an unwelcome letting go and ending of a project may drag you down. It is also likely you may be facing a doctor or dentist visit - not your idea of fun! Let your loved ones love and support you - it will make a world of difference. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Today will find you surveying the fruits of your labour - and the view should be pretty satisfying. A project may be coming to harvest and investments paying off. It's better to take the time to terrace the hillside so you can go up and down easily than to try and rush madly up and down without a proper foothold AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're surrounded by fun and loving people today - and you enjoy their kind words and friendly gestures. Some of them may just be passing through, though, so don't count on them being there forever, Enjoy the moment instead. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's a good day to grab your roller skates and go out for a spin. Swift movement of any kind will be beneficial - you need to feel the wind in your hair. You may hear from a loved one who is far away. Are you thinking of visiting? Angel Message for Earth Element People If health issues have been a concern lately, remember there is much power to be gained in focusing your thoughts on cleansing and healing through strength of will. Remember that thought creates form. Angel Message for Fire Element People The angels guarding your hearth and home deserve a special thanks for the great job they're doing. Angel Message for Air Element People: Someone or something may leave your life today. Stand firm - fresh new energies will come in to replace whatever goes. Angel Message For Water Element People Delays, false starts and changes of plan are temporary - look beyond minor annoyances and you will be happy to see the big picture. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (14:26)", "body": "April 16, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today might be a bit of a go-nowhere kind of day, you may be at a stalemate or stuck in a rut. The best things is probably to work with these energies - and save the fight for another day. Those prone to migraines - take your medication with you today, and for those experiencing headaches - the likely cause is eyestrain and/or stress. Trickling water or rhythmic ocean wave sounds may be comforting today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Caution and moderation are the watchwords today - you may be feeling an urge to leap before you look. You may be feeling somewhat volatile, moody or uncompromising today, so make some time to balance and ground yourself, and let the loving spirit of the universe flow through you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A new spark of enthusiasm makes itself noticed today, and you'll be wondering why you haven't noticed all the excitement around you that's just waiting to happen. Let your sense of fun and hope blossom - you'll soon be welcoming new opportunities and new challenges. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're likely to be doling out money or some other type of help today - there are outstretched hands wherever you turn. Be wise in your giving - weigh carefully where you will allocate your funds you're not a money tree. Still, though, you feel good that you can help. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Allowing yourself to feel the natural cosmic flow will get things moving for you faster than any conscious striving today. Angel Message for Fire Element People Today may unfold in fits and starts - instead of being discouraged, keep your eyes open for unexpected opportunities. Angel Message for Air Element People: Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel - perfect balance and control will give a very smooth ride. Angel Message For Water Element People A major transformation may be imminent - trust in the wisdom of cosmic patterns. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 67, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:48)", "body": "Good one, says the fire person."}, {"response": 68, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "For this Air person, as well..."}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (22:38)", "body": "April 27, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today would be a great day to meditate on or examine your relationships, your personal needs and desires. What exactly do you want in these areas - and if you're not getting it, what changes can you make to bring more harmony and satisfaction into your world? Perfect happiness and attainment may be just slightly beyond your reach today, but careful contemplation can work miracles. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Feelings of inadequacy or want may be your focus today - but the more you focus on negativity the more of it you attract. If you think about what you have instead of what you want, you can't help but attract more of the good stuff! One more thought: You can't fool Mother Nature! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Try to find some quiet, quality time for yourself (yes, just you) today. Put aside some time for meditation, to write a poem or to paint a picture. It's possible you've been ignoring art and creative pleasures in your mad daily rush. Better yet, study something new, sign up for a course, use that fine mind of yours. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You'll be rarin' to go today, full of vim and vigour and high ideals. Positive and exciting winds are blowing about you - projects and missions begun recently are beginning to materialize. You can win any debate with your quick thinking. Be ready for change. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Another good day to flow with the cycles of nature - remember that when the sun goes down, the moon appears to light your way. Angel Message for Fire Element People The angels ask you to honour your mother - or a special family member today - your support and caring will be much appreciated. When's the last time you sent someone flowers? Angel Message for Air Element People: Can't hear the music in your life? It's still there - maybe you just have to adjust the frequency at which you're listening. Angel Message For Water Element People If you are worrying about finances or material security - try to spend some time in nature to ground yourself and ease your mind. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (06:47)", "body": "Postive vibrations today!"}, {"response": 71, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (23:28)", "body": "April 28, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Well, break out the bubbly because life is beautiful today, and you will likely have something momentous to celebrate. If nothing spectacular actually manifests today, you can still celebrate hope, love and joy - just because you feel like it! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may be dealing with news from far-away family or friends today - perhaps it's time you arranged for a long-overdue visit. A change of scenery is probably a good idea in any event - so plan a trip or an outing, if not for today, then for the near future. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you're feeling a bit burnt out today, have you considered that you may be your own worst enemy? Stop the madness! (*smile*). Beating yourself up is not a healthy long-term proposition. Lots of inner voices and urges battling to be heard? Listen to them one at a time and give them all their due. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces There may be a rotten apple in the barrel - but forewarned is forearmed. Someone in your sphere may be spiteful or jealous - so watch your back. Third party interference is also likely. Try to let such annoyances slide - it's not as big a deal as it may seem. Angel Message for Earth Element People Youngsters bring joy - go out together to search for pixies, fairies, cherubs and four-leaf clovers! Angel Message for Fire Element People You may need to make quick decisions about an important matter: love, home, plans for the future. Let events progress naturally for today. Angel Message for Air Element People: Not the best day for shopping, signing documents, or any kind of negotiations. Take your time instead and let your intuition guide you at its own pace. Angel Message For Water Element People You're in the driver's seat today - so choose a goal or destination and go for it. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May  1, 2000 (01:28)", "body": "May 1, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This week begins with Earth people feeling a little disconnected from their natural element. Your creativity and sense of productivity may be feeling a bit blocked, and the world may seem just a little uncooperative today despite your best efforts. Don't let it get you down - it's really all just a matter of perspective. If you whine or grumble today, someone will want to 'mother' you and you may get more attention that you wanted! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It's a good day to 'start walking' - you'll have a destination firmly in site, companions along the way - and no need to look back! In business ventures, new enterprises, opportunities of all kinds - it's time to get going. One foot in front of the other - and before you know it you'll be almost there. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Stretch your arms up in the air and fill yourself with fresh, beautiful air. You will have something to celebrate or be proud of today, so go ahead and strut a little. If you jump for the ball, you are guaranteed to catch it, so heads up! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Something is bursting into bloom today - but not only in your garden. A stressful situation may be ready to explode, a relationship where there's been too much interference may need to be nipped in the bud. Deal with troublesome matters before they get out of hand. Physically, this may also be a slightly problematic week for you - so do let any unnecessary stress sap your energy. Angel Message for Earth Element People Difficulties or disappointments can often be dealt with by simply leaving them behind and choosing a new place to 'dock your boat'. Angel Message for Fire Element People You never know where happiness and joy will burst forth - so keep your heart open and ready for it. Spontaneity can really warm your soul! Angel Message for Air Element People: Throw yourself a party, but there's no need to go overboard with unwarranted spending. Your angels ask that you share what is yours with those less fortunate. Angel Message For Water Element People Squabbles and ongoing bickering cause stress and may take their toll on your health. Ask your angels to show you another alternative. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 73, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May  1, 2000 (22:20)", "body": "May 2, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Hang loose and let life happen today. If you give yourself a little time out, you'll be surprised at the new viewpoints and options that come to you. If something hasn't been progressing for you - go at it from a different angle. If it's still not working - let it rest. Go to the park or playground, sit on the swing, or climb up those monkey bars. Let other people look if they want - if they think you're funny - just smile back - and make everyone's day. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may have to 'take up the sword' today and take action against troublemakers or annoying situations. Better yet - use a flyswatter - that way you can't hurt yourself, but you'll still get the job done! It's not a day to hesitate - use discipline and intellect to put your plans into motion. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Air people - you're no strangers to change, so if life pulls a few fast ones on you today, you'll have no trouble coping. Let go of those situations or relationships which need to be released, so that you can enjoy new growth. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today is not the best day to make major decisions. You may be tempted to cut off your own nose to spite your face - and alternatively, you may force a situation to an unpleasant conclusion. Your best bet today is to focus on mundane matters and let the universe handle the big things. Angel Message for Earth Element People If your inner voice is telling you to slow down - maybe it's time to pay attention. You're tough - but nobody is invincible, so use your brains, not just your brawn. Angel Message for Fire Element People You may need to give some thought to drawing the line today. Firmness and discipline may be called for, and if you can't find the balance, it may be best to let things ride. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your imaginings can often make a situation worse than it is. Reminding yourself of this truth should lighten up any situation. You will dream of angels. Angel Message For Water Element People Should you encounter any external difficulties, your angels ask that you never doubt your inner strength. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 74, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May  2, 2000 (01:34)", "body": "I tried to draw the line on rent today but had to let things ride, just like it says for the firey ones. It looks like it will be a week long struggle. It was a stupendous day for Spring contributions though. It lifted my heart!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May  2, 2000 (23:38)", "body": "*hugs* Terry, I am happy that the Springizens are rising to the occasion! You certainly deserve it May 3, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn The forces at work today can be called the storm after the calm. You are actually experiencing a powerful week emotionally as well as spiritually - and today some of those energies may manifest in the material world as well. Surprising or even chaotic events may swirl around you, but stand fast - your foundations are strong and sturdy. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Harmony, co-operation and mutual understanding are the keywords today. Spend some time with a treasured friend or that special someone - and tell them how you really feel. You'll hear your loving words come right back to you. This evening - gaze into someone's eyes and you will get a glimpse of their soul. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra There may be some fairly important decisions made today which will affect your future - and fortunately, everything is resolved in your favour. Pay attention to balance and justice in all areas - and be ready to consider all points of view today. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces If you're tempted to throw your weight around today, remember that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. And after you've taken a deep breath and filled yourself with a sense of peace, find a quiet spot and spend some time relaxing - you need it. ------------------------------------------------------------ Angel Message for Earth Element People A good day for some 'rainy day' activities, no matter what the weather - like reading a good book - practising meditation, catching a little cat nap - you deserve it. Angel Message for Fire Element People Stars are shining bright above you - each one represents one of your angels. Angel Message for Air Element People: It's probably time to confront some of your fears or personal demons, but your angels and guides will lend you strength and clarity. Angel Message For Water Element People Take a moment to forget about your cares and play today - your angels would just love to laugh with you a little. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May  8, 2000 (14:40)", "body": "May 8, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It is said that when you are ready, a teacher will appear. Well - look around you and be ready to accept wisdom and guidance - because in one form or another, it is there for you. And you, too, can magnify the light on our planet by sharing your heart and mind with others. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may have been 'hanging by a thread' lately, and flying by the seat of your pants - but that's ok - you've got your universe firmly in view. And not just that - after all the contemplation you've been doing, you are going to be able to reach your goals with much less sacrifice than you had thought! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you find any battles breaking out around you today, maybe it's time to get assertive and/or take some action. A little healthy competition or sparring may take the edge off a situation that could otherwise become more serious. If you have several things on the go right now, you might need to exert some extra focus and energy to stay in the game. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You are the goddess or god of all you survey today - the archetypal Earth Mother (or Father). You are connected to nature and the universe - and the beautiful rhythms of the world flow through you. Enjoy the sense of abundance, creativity and nurturing that are yours today. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Patience and perseverance bring rewards, both material and spiritual. Angel Message for Fire Element People A little bit of splurging may bring some much-needed joy to your heart. Loosen your grip! Angel Message for Air Element People: Ask the Angel of Protective Ancestors to be close today if you have any concerns about your home environment. Angel Message For Water Element People An important secret or hidden knowledge will be revealed to you today. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May  9, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "May 9, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Your creativity and all-over energy should be on 'high; today - so bask in the self-confidence and use the day to let your talents shine. You have mastered something special, and this is the day to put it to use. The world will sit up and take notice. You are creating your future. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius There's an old song that says 'lift your glasses high, drink your glasses dry.' and that's just what you'll want to do today. If you haven't been invited to a party or celebration, make one of your own and share the beauty and joy of live and life with your fellow man. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you are alert and open today - chances are you will catch the brass ring when it comes around - or any other wonderful prize that is tossed in the air. Just stand tall - and reach for those gifts and prizes, then enjoy the acclaim that comes your way. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Someone - or something - may 'rock your world' today - so maybe it would be best to prepare to let go of that which is no longer necessary, the better to keep your balance. An illness (yours or someone else's) could also provide an opportunity for reflection. This is nothing to worry about - in fact - a cleansing process would be a better description of the situation. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People It is within your power to create major transformation today through courage and faith. Angel Message for Fire Element People Anxieties and worries will seem immaterial and nebulous today - the Angel of the Happy Dawn is near. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your angels ask you to think twice before severing ties or projects - make sure you are not being too hasty. Angel Message For Water Element People If someone lets you down, maybe it's time to let them go. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 78, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (15:59)", "body": "May 10, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Grab your walking stick and head for the hills. You've heard the phrase 'go west, young man'? Well, follow your nose and it will take you towards the land of opportunity. It's also a great day to metaphorically walk off into the sunset, and when you return, you bring contentment with you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The party continues today, with an eat, drink and be merry attitude - you're smiling and the world is smiling with you! It's a day for wishes and dreams come true, and for enjoying life to the fullest. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Serenity will bring intuition and deep wisdom today. Trust your inner voices - they are your higher self speaking to you - telling you what you already know. You will be happy among the colours aqua, indigo and violet today - the colours of the three higher charkas. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be called upon to arbitrate today, and/or help others with decisions or difficulties. The spirit of Justice will reign today - so expect positive decisions to be made in your favour, and balance and harmony to win the day. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People If you don't know whether you should take the right or the left road - try making a new path for yourself right down the middle. Angel Message for Fire Element People Hold fast and stand firm - you are an undisputed winner today. Women will be supportive. Angel Message for Air Element People Energy and enthusiasm will appear in some form or some person to balance your serenity and quietness today. Angel Message For Water Element People Justice can prevail even when it looks like it's the very last moment, if you believe. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (22:22)", "body": "May 11, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Be prepared to do a bit of give and take today. You may be dancing a one step forward, two steps back jig, so just keep smiling and enjoy the music, even if it's hard to keep in time with it. People may be jittery, or slightly difficult today, but what the heck - it will make tomorrow that much more enjoyable by contrast. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Love and romance rule the day, so let those beautiful passionate and natural feelings be expressed with honesty and joy. The law of attraction has its way - and there's no use fighting it! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Yesterday's spiritual joys become today's practical, earthy delights. You may feel like a king or queen gazing about you with satisfaction as you sit on your rightful throne. Fertility and creativity express themselves everywhere you look. Enjoy the abundance. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's not the best day to undertake new projects, renovations, or crafts, because it is most likely your heart won't be in it. Remember the old adage 'something worth doing is worth doing well.' If you are not focused leave the job for another day. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People When you are riding high, your angels ask you to remember those less fortunate. (Ps-s-t-t: your 'lucky angel' is very close by today!) Angel Message for Fire Element People You may make an important and positive decision about a relationship today - love and joy are triumphant. Angel Message for Air Element People A wounded heart will mend today. Angel Message For Water Element People Be ready for action, adventure and suppress today. It may turn out you spend half your day on the phone - that's ok - your chores will keep. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 12, 2000 (00:34)", "body": "May 12, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're back in charge today, spreading charm, affability and kindness wherever you go. Your aura of calm capability is much admired, and it is a great day to give and take advice, to negotiate, and to arbitrate. You are inspiring and inspired, and quite likely ready for a little adventure. Go for it. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A relationship or situation which has seemed to be stagnating recently, begins to move forward again, bringing a sense of joyous relief. A decision made yesterday allows the sweet rush of life to move again - go with the flow and enjoy the freedom. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may communicate with a spiritual advisor today - and gain some firm new spiritual beliefs. You will be concerned with morality and spiritual truths - and others will look up to you for your knowledge and light. You may formalise an unofficial relationship or situation today. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces The good old days will shine again in your heart today, as a phone call, a letter, or even an old song on the radio brings back fond memories. You may be surprised to run into an old friend, and if not, then why don't you look someone up and give them a call? ------------------------------------------------------------ Angel Message for Earth Element People If life seems a little chaotic or unpredictable today, it's not a problem for you to stand firm. Angel Message for Fire Element People A good day to take up a friendly challenge and burn off some energy, as long as you play fair! Angel Message for Air Element People: With discipline, you can nip an unpleasant situation or action in the bud. Angel Message For Water Element People Money can't buy love - or happy memories. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 14, 2000 (22:17)", "body": "May 15, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If you remember your childhood games of Pin the Tail on the Donkey, then you 'll have an indication of the vibes for today. You are being asked to make a move, but you feel like you've been blindfolded and spun around a few times - just for the fun of it. Rather than worrying about the fact that you can't make informed decisions or moves right now, why not just revel in the sheer joy of the dizziness - let that inner child have some fun - and tomorrow you can focus on go-getting again. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You've done your homework - and today - you are ready to step up on the podium and take a bow (that's after putting on a bit of a show, of course). New projects and ventures which may have looked difficult at another time, are suddenly simple and effortless. You've got the power! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're likely to start this week engaging in some lustful, even obsessive pursuits - or alternatively, trying to break a cycle that has a hold on you. Either way, the important thing to remember, is that we create our own reality and we make or break our own earthly attachments and confines. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces If you've been struggling with making an important life decision, or changing a situation that you are in - why not set yourself a goal - since the facts are already in - to muster your confidence and just 'do what you gotta do'. Perhaps setting a deadline - like the end of the week - would give you that nudge to make some positive changes for yourself. ------------------------------------------------------------ ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Impatience and anxiety may rear their heads today - so look for some activity or intellectual pursuit to balance you until you can again see with clarity. Angel Message for Fire Element People The angels send you the spirit number 8 today - for manifesting your desires. Angel Message for Air Element People: Temptation may really get the better of you today - if you are breaking rules, make sure you are not harming anyone in the process. Angel Message For Water Element People House and home will bring security and happiness today. Your home is your castle, so lavish some attention on it. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (01:32)", "body": "May 16, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If it's 'one for the money, and two for the show' then today is three to get ready and it's go, go, go! Never mind where you've been - look toward where you're going. New vistas beckon and it's a great day to start walkin'! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may be tempted to walk on the wild side today - or even get a little creepy and tiptoe around in the dark side. Watch you don't go too far because the return trip can be a hassle. 'The devil made me do it' may get you a few indulgent giggles, but it won't totally get you off the hook. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Somebody stop the world - I want to get off! Well - at the least, you'll want to give it a spin of your own if you don't like the direction it's going in. And why not? If you want to see new horizons, maybe you'll have to change location. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's not the best day to tackle those projects that you've been putting off. If your heart isn't in it, you'll just find it a chore, so wait until you can really focus and do a good job. Remember, half-hearted efforts are a total waste of time. It's better not to start something if you're not going to finish it. Give yourself a breather instead. ------------------------------------------------------------ Angel Message for Earth Element People Expect a 'call to action' today - if you are needed, you must go and join the troops. Angel Message for Fire Element People If you feel the need to cut some ties that bind, your angels are ready to help you today - just ask. Angel Message for Air Element People If it's time to find a new path - start walking. With your angels at your side, you will soon be skipping. Angel Message For Water Element People Your angels remind you that you don't need other people's approval as you follow your heart. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 83, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "May 17, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today it is not recommended that you throw your weight around. You may have a tendency to be a bit bossy or overly authoritative - watch out whose toes you step on as they will in turn be ready to do a jig on you tomorrow. (ouch)! You also may be experiencing a bit of a brain drain - take two aspirins and call the doctor in the morning. (You may need to just slow down a bit til the weekend though - because the doc has 'gone fishin' and won't be back until Sunday). FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius In spite of some recent joys and accomplishments, you've been playing something of a wallflower. Well, today's a good day to pry your fingers off that wall and step out onto the dance floor. Your friends are waiting - and there's a whole world out there that needs your unique contributions. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Your ship may be taking it's own sweet time in coming in, but there's probably no forcing the issue. You may have been taking on a little too much in your daily life, and your juggling game isn't going so well. Maybe it's time to put one of the balls down if your hands are too full. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're likely to be feeling like the passenger and not the driver today - and it's not your cup of tea to be at the mercy of other's whims. If you want to 'ride' out the day harmoniously, try to sit back and relax - you can take back the steering wheel tomorrow, and by then, you'll know the road too.. ------------------------------------------------------------ Angel Message for Earth Element People It may be a day to give up the reins - just for a short time - to someone who is better prepared to run the show. Don't worry - you'll get them back. Angel Message for Fire Element People Don't be afraid to test new waters - you will likely find them pleasant and nourishing. That goes for meeting new people, too. Angel Message for Air Element People: Discipline and firmness will be highlighted today - whether it's a matter of self-control, or accepting the wishes and advice of an authority figure. Angel Message For Water Element People If you're having trouble trusting others, it's time to do some work in the realm of love and spirituality. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 84, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (00:52)", "body": "May 18, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This is another day where you are cautioned to watch your step and tread lightly. You know that old adage about not waking the sleeping lion in his den? Write it down and carry it with you today. Take a couple of hours off if you can today - put on some soft, relaxing music, and refresh your soul - even your body will thank you for it! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Your sense of duty and nobility could really qualify you for queenliness (or kingliness) today - your bearing is stately, confident and proud. Survey your kingdom with grace and dignity and look ahead for the next opportunities on the horizon. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You are not only marching to a different drummer today, but chances are you're walking on the ceiling instead of on the ground. You might be getting some really funny looks - but what does that matter when you have such a unique vantage point? WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be getting fidgety with your slow progress this week - but this cycle ends today! Being on the defensive is sometimes necessary, but it's not the most pleasant place to be, so hang in there one more day and start planning some fun and adventure for the weekend. Angel Message for Earth Element People Something you've been waiting for is taking it's own sweet time to materialize, but don't let timing get the better of you. Look deep within for strength. Angel Message for Fire Element People You may make an important discovery today - that will help you on your journey toward enlightenment. Angel Message for Air Element People: Do your bit for ecology today - and if you've been tired lately, take some time to just hang out. Angel Message For Water Element People Feelings of being boxed in could trouble you today - fences and walls are issues that need to be examined, both metaphorically and literally. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 85, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (15:10)", "body": "May 19, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It's possible someone (or some situation) has been bullying you - you may be getting weary of the fight, but today is not the day to let your defences down. There are always those who are on the lookout for a chink in your armour - so stay alert and protect all that which is important to you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Be ready to cope with some minor annoyances and frustrations today. You may miss some calls, lose some emails, or meet up with an argumentative person. If you hold onto your temper you will see that these petty little things are really nothing more than a couple of pesky flies at a picnic - and the big picture is just as beautiful as ever. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you have been focusing a great deal on spiritual and emotional matters, today you may decide it's time to pay attention to more mundane and rational concerns. Intuition has been serving you well, but when you apply logic and intellect, a murky situation may develop into one which is clear cut, with practical solutions. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces An earth sign person may enhance your day today, with assistance, advice, or just simply 'being there' for you. Money and business matters are looking good - take advantage of being on a roll. Key words for today are 'down to earth' and 'rock solid'. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People If you can't do it all by yourself - ask for some help. It's not a negative reflection on you, but a smart move. Angel Message for Fire Element People Nourish your spirit today by staying out of other people's tensions and annoyances - stepping back just a little will bring you fresh perspective. Angel Message for Air Element People: If your creativity or passion seems a little blocked today - exercise your fine intellect instead. Angel Message For Water Element People Sharpness can be unpleasant when carelessly applied - whether in words, attitude or actual objects used. Your angels can help smooth rough or cutting edges. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 21, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "May 22, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn An expansive and generous mood may turn a little sour today. If you curb your impatience, you will find that things aren't gloomy at all, and a smile on your face will put a smile in your heart. You may need to set some boundaries today if you find others taking advantage of your generosity. It's one thing to share, but you don't have to give it all away! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Your inner child is jumping up and down in delight today - so open up and have some fun. Simple pleasures will bring much joy, so let those barriers down and allow your sense of adventure to guide you today. Pack a picnic lunch, take the dog to the park for a romp, pick some flowers in the countryside - the world is what you want it to be. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Someone may try to dampen the party today, but don't let one rotten apple spoil the bunch. Occasional personality conflicts are sometimes unavoidable, but remember that the rainbow comes after the storm. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces If you've been feeling abandoned or 'left out in the cold' lately, relief, renewed inner strength and a big warm blanket are on their way today. Difficulties and obstacles have become clear, and now they can easily be dealt with. Take a deep cleansing breath and get going! ------------------------------------------------------------ Angel Message for Earth Element People Your angels remind you that life never gives you a bigger load than you can carry, but there's no shame in asking for help either. Angel Message for Fire Element People You may have to turn yourself around if you want to see a new view. Angel Message for Air Element People: Someone may decide, out of the blue, to fly the coop! Never mind what the neighbours think - just keep your focus in your own backyard and let them do likewise. Angel Message For Water Element People Let a loyal friend lead the parade today. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (22:27)", "body": "May 23, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Pay attention to the number three today - you'll find it's true that good things come in threes. It's a great day for a little get-together or celebration with friends, and happiness shared is happiness multiplied. Something good is coming! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Right makes might, so allow your sense of truth and morality to reign today. You may need to defend a friend or a cause - you are empowered with goodness and honour. Decisions are not problem - follow through on any exiting new projects or ideas that emerge today - and success is assured. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You'll be giving yourself a shake today, and wondering why it's been so long since you've spread you wings. If the nest has become a prison lately, remember that your spirit can fly if only you give it permission to do so! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Someone is 'under the gun' today, and needs your support. It's also possible that someone you know may need to be chauffeured to a doctor's appointment, or you'll be visiting someone who is not well. You can help with your quiet inner strength and serenity. Time and rest are nature healers. ----------------------------------------------------------- ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Allow yourself to daydream a little today - and then share your happy dreams and fantasies with those you love! Angel Message for Fire Element People There's no use crying over split milk when you own the dairy farm. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your angels send you the number 8 - if you want to manifest your desires, they are ready to help you if you just make the first move. Angel Message For Water Element People You know not to lend money if you can't afford to lose it - but that has never stopped your charitable heart before, and it won't stop you now. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (16:34)", "body": "May 24, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today is a day when you'll want to 'walk your talk'. You'll take control in a kind but firm way, and jigsaw puzzle pieces will fall into place under your steady gaze and benevolent force of will. Gentle authority is highlighted - take well-meant advice where it is offered. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius An angel of compassion stirs your heart today. Allow someone to be kind to you - it will be soul-satisfying for both of you. Inner truths emerge gently, and bring peace of spirit. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A fire sign man comes bearing good news or advice - he's a kindly, take-charge type of person who is bent on helping you. And what are you supposed to do? Why, let him! And then, say thank-you! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Children may be annoying today - and people from your past may pop up to irritate you. Let the kids be - they will come around - and as for those others - put them back in the past and shut the door if that's where they belong. An old letter, photo or song may make you overly sentimental for the past today. Indulge for a moment, then bring yourself back to reality - you'll feel better for it. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People If it feels like your wishes aren't coming true 'on schedule' - maybe it's time to take a more active role in manifesting your dreams. Angel Message for Fire Element People You may feel you've been winning a lot of battles, not getting anywhere in the war. Be patient and keep at it - overnight successes are the exception, not the rule. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you find the ground shifting a little under your feet today, don't worry - you have plenty of loyal support. Angel Message For Water Element People Maternal issues are in the forefront today. If life is crowding you, find a quiet corner in the garden or out in nature, and try to reconnect with the pulse of Mother Earth. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 89, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (22:22)", "body": "May 25, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may have a teensy bit of trouble or instability on the feminine front today, whether it's in relationships with females, or with your own feminine side. If you are at all frustrated or out of sorts, try to get outdoors and even for a few minutes, breathe in some of the wonders of nature. Trail your fingers through a pond, plant some flowers, hug a tree - you need to 'connect'. Remember that you are a child of the earth. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius There may be a bully in the crowd today - one who makes his presence felt with sarcasm and intellectual put-downs. Arrogance is no match for compassion, kindness and understanding - in fact, applied to the root of a problem, it will cause a lovely melt-down! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you find yourself having to defend your position today, either in your ideals, or perhaps even in practical matters, don't worry for a moment. You are way above the crowd in your class and courage, so let it shine! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You are 'on the ball' in all practical matters today. Your feet are firmly on the ground, but your eyes see far into the distance. You will want to balance business, financial and practical matters with some 'nature-worshipping' today. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People If someone you know is feeling down and out today, kindness and true sympathy will help more than badgering or tough words. Angel Message for Fire Element People Stand tall today, and be ready to be the champion of the day. Angel Message for Air Element People: Your guardian angel is nearby, ready to pour water on any little brush fires that may break out. Angel Message For Water Element People What goes up must come down - but you are blessed to see the bigger picture. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 90, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (22:24)", "body": "Those of you who got a panicky email from me today will know exactly to what my sign refers to... I'm gonna need all the help I can get from inside of myself."}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (22:43)", "body": "May 26, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may feel a little out of touch today as 'moon power' exerts a pull on your otherwise well-grounded spirit. It's a day to experience your emotions in full - let them flow where they will. You'll be sensitive and insightful - enjoy the mystery of life! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Self-esteem may be restored today after some recent attacks to your ego. Be gracious in both defeats and successes -. Putting battles and issues of conflict behind you will clear the way of renewed growth and success. Let bygones be bygones - and you can stand tall with pride. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You might be feeling like you've reached a plateau in your endeavours, and it's getting a little boring staring at the same scenery all the time. Try not to let impatience get the better of you. You've come a long way, baby, and one step at a time is the best way to continue on your path. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces If you've been climbing single-mindedly up a hill, don't be dismayed if circumstances force you to stop for a rest. There are very few roads that go straight up. It is usually better to find a path which may meander a little, but will get you where you're going with less waste of effort overall. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Listen to the wind today - there's all kinds of interesting communiqu\ufffds on the way. Angel Message for Fire Element People You angels remind you that every little thing you do is part of the big picture. You are appreciated for your efforts. Angel Message for Air Element People: It's time to re-examine where you've come from and where you are heading. Has your perspective changed lately? Angel Message For Water Element People Your mind may be racing in circles these days - but don't let it control you. Your spirit has a few things to say too. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 29, 2000 (23:32)", "body": "May 29, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Business, career and financial matters of all kinds are highlighted today, so make sure your pencil is sharpened so you can sign all those contracts and documents. Agreements will be made, new ventures started, and everything is coming up roses on all sides of the picture. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The morning hours may find you a little preoccupied or on the defensive. Material concerns may be overly emphasized, but by afternoon you should regain your equilibrium. Watch that you don't hold on too tightly to that which you should be letting go. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you're shopping or dealing with salespeople today - remember the phrase 'caveat emptor' - or 'buyer beware'. Things that come in two's may be a little problematic - communications, partnerships and negotiations - so stick to solitary or larger group efforts. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today is a 'win some - lose some' type of day - there's lots of ups and downs - and there's no getting off the merry-go- round today. What the heck! Go with flow - and be ready to reach out and grab a prize if it comes within reach. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People You've been singing \"I Want to Break Free\" - and today you can! A new day dawns joyous! Angel Message for Fire Element People If there's a fly in your wineglass, it doesn't mean you have to dump the whole bottle. Angel Message for Air Element People: There's a definite tendency to be impatient or hasty today - make sure you test the waters before you dive in. Angel Message For Water Element People There is more than one road that leads to Rome - and no reasons to stay on a path that isn't quite to your liking. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "May 31, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today may find you a little stressed or strung out - you may be feeling like you've been ducking swords thrown at you by someone with an unsteady hand. If your inner voice is telling you to get out of the line of fire today - then do so. You may even take an unexpected nap or some kind of retreat today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It's likely that today will find you looking over the fence into your neighbour's yard. It may look greener than yours may, but would you really want to trade? Pretend you are on the other side of the fence looking into your own yard - you may be very surprised at what you see. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If you've risen to the top in your field or group - you may need to be prepared to defend your position today. The 'mob' may be getting restless, so you'll have to make a stand to stay where you are. You might find out that you are somebody's hero. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's a great day to stop and smell the .grapevines? the cotton fields? the peach orchard? Wherever you are today - try to get outdoors and soak in a little revitalizing sun and breeze. There's a sweet smell of success on the wind. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your angels send you the spirit number 4 - pay attention to your foundations and beliefs. Angel Message for Fire Element People It may be time to come out of your shell - you've been a little withdrawn lately, and there are those who miss you. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you find yourself in the role of a 'rescuer' today - don't forget that your angels are right there beside you to assist. Angel Message For Water Element People Your angels ask you to put down the load for a moment, and look at the beauty and bounty around you. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 94, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun  2, 2000 (14:56)", "body": "June 2, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Teacher or student, there is much wisdom to be shared today. You will be seeking or imparting advice - and carefully considered thoughts or viewpoints will be a beacon for enlightenment. Peace and quiet lead to self-discovery. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You've 'got the power' today - and the universe is even lending you a helping hand. Career and business matters are favoured, so if in doubt, muster your ammunition and your courage, and walk into the future anyway. Heck, you can even strut if you feel like it - who's gonna stop you? AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Some losses or disappointments today may remind you of the need to attend to your spiritual values. Have you been on the outside looking in? Maybe it's time to look within yourself. You may find yourself comforting someone who is down and out - and take it as a gift that you are able to do so. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're in a sharing mood today - your generosity of spirit manifests in both material and spiritual offerings, benefiting all those who come into your sphere. You may not receive the largess back in coins, but you will get in back in other gifts. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your angels remind you that gentle kindness and sensitivity will leave a loving imprint on someone's soul. Angel Message for Fire Element People It may be time to try something new - even if it means cutting some ties with the past. Angel Message for Air Element People: A kind and gentle man may be an angel in disguise. Angel Message For Water Element People When sharing your resources with others, be careful not to allow yourself to become overly impoverished in the process. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 95, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun  4, 2000 (22:58)", "body": "June 5, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may tend towards day dreaminess today - and even you might have trouble keeping up with your own moods. Your own emotions may be clouding your judgment, or someone may be deceiving you. A little self-indulgence won't hurt anyone - go ahead a pout a little if you want to - but remember that reality is probably not exactly as you see it today. If a female trouble-maker crosses your path - turn in the other direction. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, but what about if you have three in the hand and someone offers you one more? Well, take if it's freely given, but don't let the other three fly off in the meantime. If you think about it, you will realize how much they truly mean to you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Expect lots of sunshine and optimism both in your soul and in your emotional environment today. It's the perfect time accept the torch and to take charge of matters. Vitality and satisfaction underlie all you do - and are transmitted to everyone around you. Spend as much time as you can with friends and family - and do something out of doors if you can. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it. If an impasse has been reached, it's time to pick up the pieces and get on with things. The key word for today is clean-up, so you might as well get on with it, whether it' s symbolic or literal. You'll feel much better once it is dealt with. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People It is time to put a betrayal or hurt behind you - you will feel much better if you let it go. Angel Message for Fire Element People Things probably aren't moving fast enough for you in your life, but your angels advise patience for just a little while longer. Angel Message for Air Element People: The earth, water and fire spirits ask you to join them and be the wind spirit today. Angel Message For Water Element People Mysterious forces may be at work in your environment today, so it's a good day to just go with the flow. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 96, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun  6, 2000 (01:16)", "body": "June 6, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You are the master at your craft (or your hobby) today so don't be grudge the time you need to spend on your projects - it will pay off. Desk work or handiwork is highlighted, your focus is keen, and income potential is excellent. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A get-together or social event may be called off, so you'd do well to keep a Plan B handy just in case. If you encounter some bickering and arguing among friends, it's probably best to stay out of it. Three's a crowd, so if you're feeling uncomfortable about something, try to work it out one on one. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Yes - you CAN have it all. Today you can balance career, family, social obligations and your personal well-being with style and grace. Follow your dreams and ambitions, but don't be afraid to stop and pick a flower or two. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You are feeling a sense of newly won freedom today - but you don't quite know what to do with it! You don't have much 'follow-through' today - and the unknown may be looming quite large for you. If in doubt, play it safe. Impulsive decisions may cause trouble down the road. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People The angels are whispering in Lady Luck's ear today - so keep your eyes open for wonderful new opportunities. Angel Message for Fire Element People There is probably some disorder and chaos in the air - but allow the storm to do its work and wash away that which is no longer useful in your life. Angel Message for Air Element People: It's always fun to celebrate your joys or triumphs - whether they are large or small. Angel Message For Water Element People If you're a bit frazzled or unfocused today, spend some time in artistic or creative pursuits. It will center you and bring forth your inner beauty. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun  7, 2000 (22:07)", "body": "June 8, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A period of indecision or immobility may be coming to an end today - but before you jump into anything, examine your perspective once again. Make sure that your goals and actions correspond with your own inner needs, and not just those of others. If you've been playing the martyr, it's time to call an end to the situation and to actively pursue what is best for you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If you stare at the ground, you're not likely to see much more than your own two feet. Lift your chin and you'll see wonders around you. If you're feeling somewhat anxious, or even abandoned today, see what emotional ties need to be severed so you can move forward again. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Riding on the sense of well-being that signified yesterday, today you can do magic!!! Yes, just say abracadabra, or wave that magic wand - your desires should manifest and you can set your world on fire. Go ahead and dazzle your audience - sometimes it's good to show off a little! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's a great day to spend some time with a special friend or companion today - you will find much joy in seeing eye-to-eye with someone. You should find harmony and a balanced give and take in everything you do today. It's a wonderful time for sharing, negotiating, and reaching agreements of all kinds. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Look for a new friend or new inspiration to enter your life - angels come in many shapes and forms. Angel Message for Fire Element People If you are feeling restless or even reckless today, ask your angels to help you balance the opposing forces duelling in your mind or spirit. Angel Message for Air Element People: The world is yours for the taking - as long as you work with the laws of nature and the universe. Angel Message For Water Element People You can take charge of matters with firmness, while maintaining not only dignity but great compassion. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 98, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun  8, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "June 8, 2000 (different from above but same date!) EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn For the second time this week you may be a little moony and emotional - totally unusual for you steady Earth signs. Listen to your feeling, dreams, hunches and intuition right now --they will probably present more truth than rational thought. It's a good time to reflect on the past, on mysteries and the occult, and creative pursuits of all kinds. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It may not have been an easy few days for you, but today spells relief. The air clears, and so does your vision. It's time to take action on your decisions and enjoy the exhilaration of forward movement once again. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra The 'dark side' might show its face today - but there's no need to worry. When you realize who's the boss, you can laugh in the face of the devil himself. Make your own rules, and as long as they are in accordance with the laws of universal good - you are pretty much invincible! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces 'All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy' but it also earns him serious rewards, financial and otherwise. Stick to your tasks - your long terms goals are within sight - in fact you are almost there! ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People The breezes may beckon you today - creative inspiration is highlighted. Angel Message for Fire Element People Your angels are guiding you to make a positive, lasting mark on something or someone today. Angel Message for Air Element People: You may have to do a bit of juggling today to keep on top of things, but that's no problem for you. You will find that everything you undertake today seems tied together. Angel Message For Water Element People Your long term goals are within reach. Your angels are watching over you. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 99, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun  9, 2000 (00:05)", "body": "June 9, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn The sun comes out in full force for your today - bringing happiness and attainment in family relationships, friendships and long-held goals. Optimism and fulfilment are yours, and your world is joyously illuminated. Take charge and 'go for it'. It's good to be alive. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Sudden and powerful changes are possible today - and there will be no looking back. A change of status, a major decision or a lifestyle change are all possible - ushering in a brand new era for you. You will be focused on endings and new beginnings, which are the cycles of nature. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Your home is your castle - even if it's your home away from home. Put some pretty planters on your front porch, string a garland over a doorway, or add any meaningful personal touch to your environment that expresses joy and good times. You will attract even more of these gifts and qualities. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may need to make a decision today - something that you've been juggling for some time now. If you can just tip the scales in favour of one approach or the other, you may find that the ship you've been waiting for to come in is finally on the horizon. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your angels will smile at your graciousness in both giving and receiving today. Angel Message for Fire Element People Look for profound wisdom from a teacher or older person today - and then perhaps you'll also want to spend some time alone savouring your new-found insights. Angel Message for Air Element People: People around you may not be as reliable or friendly as usual - so may just want to some dome things on your own today. Angel Message For Water Element People No matter what life hands you today, your angels will help you balance everything. You're going to make it look SO easy! Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (20:52)", "body": "June 12, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may be feeling the weight of the world on your shoulders today - and rightly so - but you're just going to soldier on, anyway. Your motto is 'if I want it done right, I'll do it myself' and your unwillingness or inability to delegate could leave you very stressed and tired. It can be quite lonely at the top, so maybe it's time to practise sharing. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Monday ushers in a 'should I stay or should I go' week - everything this week will be yes or no; black or white; forward and back. You're travelling a stretch of bumpy terrain but all will be well if you keep your eyes on the road and your hands on the wheel. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra There may be some disharmony amongst otherwise like-minded people today - but there's no need to let it get you down. A happy plan may be cancelled and a friendship may be in the dumps, but harmony should be restored as the week goes by and everything will be better than before. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You might be playing 'hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil' today, but the restrictions could be a bit uncomfortable. Wait until you are sure you have a valid point, and if you do, then speak. Otherwise, forever after hold your peace. ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People If you are feeling you are not getting the support you need from your loved ones, perhaps it is time to clarify your expectations in open communication. Angel Message for Fire Element People Each star that twinkles in the sky represents a blessing and a hope for the future. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you are dealing with an ending today, your angels will help you understand the cycles of life. Angel Message For Water Element People Your angels ask you to consider 'moving on' today. They send you the spirit number 8. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 101, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (01:00)", "body": "June 15, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This is a perfect day to pamper yourself a little if you can. A trip to the beauty salon, the spa, or even a long bubble bath (for you guys - how about a snooze in the hammock?) - will revitalize you and your world. You may receive an unexpected gift today - just enjoy it! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Sometimes it just isn't enough that everything is going well - your heart still isn't quite full. If you are not getting the emotional support you need from others, add your intellect to the equation is see if you can put things to right. If it's time to change the rules - do so. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You can expect some interference or disagreeability from an earth sign person who might kindle some self-doubt in you. Remember that love and contentment start within, not without, and refuse to accept insecurity kindled by others. A good day to contemplate the true nature of 'abundance' WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces New creativity and enthusiasm is in the air today - it's time to take out those brand new walking shoes and show them a bit of the world. Adventure can spark within you if you allow it to, and bring all kinds of new ideas and opportunities to light. Whistle a happy tune! Angel Message for Earth Element People Your personal strength and confidence may intimidate others if you are careless in your attitude. Your angels ask you to speak from the heart. Angel Message for Fire Element People You have a lot of responsibilities, but the last thing the angels wish you to be is a martyr. Troubles shared are troubles halved. Angel Message for Air Element People: External opposition may test your inner strength today. Remember that a bit of adversity will shape and strengthen your true spirit. Angel Message For Water Element People A surprising offer or opportunity may be presented today - and it may be time to make some decisions. Take your time - it may be for keeps. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 102, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (00:46)", "body": "June 16, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You'll be seeing rainbows everywhere you look today - so start counting! It's a perfect day to celebrate a joyous event - or just make one up if you feel like it. Good friends will share a toast to good times - so join the group and lift your glass up high! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Someone or something from the past could resurface today, bringing nostalgia or even a little sadness. Clinging to worn-out situations is unproductive, and some ghosts should be laid to rest. Someone may uncover a 'skeleton' in the closet today - maybe you will have to close the door more firmly. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Take some quiet personal time today to work on self-esteem issues. Outside negativities may end if they've been troubling you, but you still may need to do some spiritual work on remembering and honouring your true spirit. Truly loving your 'self' enables you to love others. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You'll be focused on chores or other important projects today, but there will be a pay-off either in external rewards or the satisfaction of a job well done. The foundations you laid in the past can manifest in positive creations today. Keep at it! ANGEL WHISPERS - Gain Guidance From Your Angel! Angel Message for Earth Element People You may be impulsive and scattered today - and circumstances may be changing around you too rapidly to keep to with. Take a deep breath and count to ten. It really works. Angel Message for Fire Element People There is likely something from the past bringing you down, or some unhealthy attachments that are troubling you. If you can stare them in the face, you cam make them melt away. Angel Message for Air Element People: If you can't have it all - take what you can get. Tomorrow is another day Angel Message For Water Element People Your spirit number is 4 today. Take some time out today - meditate, take a nap - regroup. Angel Blessings to All!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (09:34)", "body": "(Yup, napping - and regrouping after a pretty horrid few days) paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 19, "subject": "Chinese Astrology", "response_count": 34, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (20:57)", "body": "your birthyear determines your animal sign. see the following link: http://www.taofengshui.com/tao_astrology/"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (22:04)", "body": "Oh heavenly days - this is a 116# Ox checking in."}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (09:19)", "body": "i'll see if i can find more links because you have to buy the book in order to find more info about your sign at the above link."}, {"response": 4, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "I was born in the year of the Snake (which I found out from a placemat at a Chinese restaurant,) which means I'm very private, vain, and artistic. Me to a tee!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (13:23)", "body": "according to the placemat, i'm a monkey...."}, {"response": 6, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (10:01)", "body": "Hey! I'm a monkey, too! I thought so, but didn't know it exactly, because I wasn't sure if chinese new year is before or after my birhtday in february... Thanks, Wolf!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (13:32)", "body": "I'm an ox too!!!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (13:32)", "body": "ha-ha! No, like Marcia, I mean!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (17:08)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (16:49)", "body": "Ree, I think we are calabash sisters as well as Chinese astro-mates. When I told John he was a snake, he thought it was perverse that of all the animals available they gave him the only one he was afraid of and truly loathed. How does that help, and where do we get one of those ubiquitous place mats? (The Chinese restaurants here are usually family of the first generation in the US and do not waste their time of things like place mats!)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (16:50)", "body": "And, in Chinese here, Time = Money!!!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (17:12)", "body": "Next time I go to that restaurant, I'll see if I can snag one of those placemats, but I think they keep them under glass on top of the tables."}, {"response": 13, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (18:07)", "body": "i can get one!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (19:38)", "body": "Good, because I don't eat at that restaurant very often. It makes me sick every time I do!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (19:54)", "body": "we usually go as a group (work) so next time, i'll grap a placemat. once i get the thing, am i to scan it and post it here? (i'm not sure i can shrink it and still have it readable)...."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (21:54)", "body": "If you can't, send me a copy of the large one and I will work on it with my stuff here. (You mean there are places which have placemats you can take out?!)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (02:28)", "body": "Amy, why do you get sick when you eat at restaurants???"}, {"response": 18, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (10:38)", "body": "I don't get sick at all restaurants--just that particular one with the Chinese astrology placemats. Their food is kind of scary, and I haven't eaten there in a long while."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "Has anyone examined their trash bins? We had one here...nah, I don't think you want to know about this...=P"}, {"response": 20, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "I once was at an Indian place in Kopenhagen and a cockroach came walking out of the menu-card....."}, {"response": 21, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (16:47)", "body": "Well, they publish the restaurant inspector's report in the newspaper here, and that place didn't fare very well (surprise, surprise.)"}, {"response": 22, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (18:06)", "body": "we had a chinese place called taste of china. they found nutria in the a/c vents. it was shut down, exterminated and will forever be affectionately called taste of rat."}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (19:59)", "body": "The one in Hilo had rubbish cans full of bits and pieces of pussycats..."}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (20:01)", "body": "Is this where I interject that this was Chairman Meow's favorite restaurant?!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "exactly!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (10:18)", "body": "Oh, how foul!!! Luckily I've never experienced places like that - apart from my own cooking, that is."}, {"response": 27, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (12:31)", "body": "Isabel, was it an Indian or Danish cockroach?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (13:06)", "body": "In Chinese Astrology, do animals have people years in which they were born which also dictates that they become a culinary delicacy in another lifetime?! Never though about it that way..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (17:54)", "body": "gross!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (18:06)", "body": "...sorry! On occasion when my mind is not properly supervised it just wanders around thinking up odd things to entertain itself. Wish it had an off-button!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (18:36)", "body": "But if you think about it, in Asia the standards for what animals people eat are much different than what we eat here. Asians have no qualms about eating dogs, and I've seen things about rat restaurants in China, but cats I don't know about. Obviously so, huh?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (19:42)", "body": "...and I know they eat cockroaches - which they cleanse by feeding them cornmeal for a few days. No Thank You! *bleah*"}, {"response": 33, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (19:53)", "body": "To each his own, I guess..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (20:11)", "body": "They can have my share!!! paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 2, "subject": "Introduce Yourself", "response_count": 19, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:52)", "body": "hi, this whole thing was my idea. thought it would be interesting to hear what others think about the paranormal (i.e. ghosts, aliens, clairvoyance, etc.) i don't know how much i'd bank on the stuff but i do find it fascinating. it's fascinating what human beings are really capable of doing--you know that eerie feeling that you'd better call home, or you've been thinking of your best friend all day and they call you that evening? coincidence? maybe, but fascinating nonetheless....."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:55)", "body": "Hey, this is wer, the subnormal one on the Spring..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:56)", "body": "well, i think we've found your place on the net! *grin*"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (22:14)", "body": "yep..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (01:59)", "body": "perhaps it's the aliens that keep bulletting us into 2036 huh? They made you start this conference didn't they Wolf. They sucked you up in SA and put the drive into your head. They make you think it's your idea... but it's THEM!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (00:55)", "body": "yeah.....(no, it was mine....no it was them..no it was mine....)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (14:49)", "body": "THEMMMMMMMMM ARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! (They're doing it to you again Wolfie... RESIST. With all your power RESIT!!!!). ok"}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (14:49)", "body": "ummm... I mean Resist"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:20)", "body": "(no you didn't...you meant resit, Wolf, resit)"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (19:51)", "body": "can only listen to one master/mistress at a time.....oh wait, hey, i'm a wild animal......"}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (21:28)", "body": "and slave to no man..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (13:36)", "body": "sometimes slavery can be mutally rewarding..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (15:39)", "body": "did you mean \"mutantly\" or \"mutually\"?..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (15:54)", "body": "ah ha! That is for You to know and Me to find out!!!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "Do you mean it?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (21:14)", "body": "and I do!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (22:16)", "body": "do you mean that, as well?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (09:43)", "body": "certainly!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb 27, 1999 (00:57)", "body": "so, I guess the question now is, \"Do I Believe?\" paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 20, "subject": "Celtic Astrology", "response_count": 66, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (10:46)", "body": "Here's some stuff I found on a website called \"The Celtic Heart.\" I had no idea that a Celtic astrology chart existed, but so it does and it's very interesting. I'm going to post it in sections, since it's quite long. BETH; Dec. 24-Jan. 21 Tree: Birch Symbol: White Stag Those born under the sign of Beth have a gift for creating amazing and wonderful things. The lunar influences surrounding this sign bestow abilities and talents for building things that last and are of great value. Beth people have tenacity, practicality, good judgement and patience. There is great charm here and success comes easily when self-criticism ceases. The Birch is flexible, steady, rooted in strength as it reaches toward the limitless sky. Beth is the first letter of the Ogham alphabet. The great Celtic stag carries the spirit of the first forest. His power brings connection with unseen possibilities. Stag energy is full with gentleness, loyalty, and courage. Honoring intuition brings success. LUIS; Jan. 22-Feb. 18 Tree: Rowan Symbol: Dragon Those who are born under the sign of the Celtic month Luis are blessed with quickness of mind, inspiration, and a gift for communication of all kinds. Rowan's legendary ability to absorb a bolt of lightning has made it a tree of inspiration and power. The mighty Rowan is a reminder that nature and the land have powers to inspire and guide you. Special care must be given to honor both the realms of practicality and inspiration. Dragon is a protector of the great Celtic treasure. The ancient Fire Drago keeps the secrets and visions of the bards. The great treasure of the Dragon is the magical wisdom of the Druids. The great Celtic Festival of Fire, Imbolc, is Feb. 2."}, {"response": 2, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (10:48)", "body": "NION; Feb. 19-Mar. 18 Tree: Ash Symbol: Merfolk The sign Nion brings gifts of understanding, intuition and empathy to those born under it. Many great bards, poets and magicians are associated with this lunar sign. Gwyddion, the greatest storyteller of ancient times, possessed all the magical gifts of Nion. The mighty ash brings inner strength, a peaceful spirit, and the ability to overcome all obstacles. Ash is one of the most sacred trees to the Celts. The Merfolk inhabit the seas, appearing to humans on rare occasions. Celtic legends tell of an ient times when the Celts lived in a mystical land beneath the waves. The Merfolk bring the gift of memory and vision to those born under the month of Nion. FEARN; Mar. 19-Apr. 15 Tree: Alder Symbol: Falcon Fearn is rich in mystic tradition. Boldness, independence, and dynamic action are all part of the character of those born under the sign Fearn. The legendary hero, Bran, is strongly associated with the red branch of the alder tree. The redness of the alder is a reminder that sometimes, intense spirit need to be tempered with thought. This is a time of year when baby animals are born and the world is renewed. Falcon flies over the land and surveys all that is new, all that is possible, and all that wi l be. Those born in the month of the ash share keen insight of the Falcon. The Celtic spring festival of the Vernal Equinox is on Mar. 21. SAILLE; Apr. 16-May 14 Tree: Willow Symbol: Sea Serpent Saille is a sign of Earth mysteries, psychic gifts, and healing. From earliest times, the willow has been a sacred tree. Willow's deep roots connect the Faery realm with the land of the Celts. People born under this sign often possess a gift for seeing what others may miss seeing. Saille people often have a long, clear memory. Willow trees are associated with Danu, Ceridwen, and the Druids. An ancient sea serpent swims to the remotest depths of the sea, and like the willow, brings hidden knowledge t the surface. Cirein Croin, the Scottish sea serpent of legend, is said to be the largest of all living creatures. May Day, the ancient Celtic celebration of Beltane, is May 1. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"}, {"response": 3, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (10:49)", "body": "UATH; May 15-June 12 Tree: Hawthorn Symbol: Chalice Those born under the sign of Uath are often able to charm those around them without effort. Talents are many for those born at this time of year including a flair for the dramatic and a strong sense of self. Uath favors actors, artists, dancers, and politicians. Skill at subtle negotiation and diplomacy are also common. Hawthorn stands quietly in strength and knowledge. The chalice of Celtic legend, the Grail cup, and Dagda's inexhaustible cauldron, are all symbols of the gifts that flow to those who are worthy. Chalices and cauldrons represent the ancient caves and wells of Ireland, from which all good things flow freely to those who honor the land. DUIR; June 13-Jul. 9 Tree: Oak Symbol: Horse Duir is the month of the great oak. It is from this tree that the Druids got their name. The word Druid means \"oak knowledge.\" People born under this sign have a natural affinity for religious or spiritual matters. Healers, artists, and visionaries are often born in Duir. The oak stands strong and wise as the Summer Solstice, the longest day of the year, passes on June 21. Those born in the month Duir who study and learn skills are capable of deep understanding. The horse is the great love of the Ce tic people. Tales of the strength, courage, beauty, and faithfulness of the horse fill Celtic legends. The horse's balance of strength and beauty is celebrated in Epona. TINNE; Jul. 10-Aug. 6 Tree: Holly Symbol: Lion The month of Tinne is a time of putting things in order. Those born under this sign have a special gift for figuring out difficult problems and puzzles. They are often people of great patience and kindness, who delight in mental games. Tinne people are often lucky. Tinne's plant is holly. Holly is favored in Celtic religious and festive celebrations. The holly's sharp leaves are a reminder to temper kindness with caution. The lion, like the cat, is a symbol of skill, intuition, strength, and agilit . The Irish say, \"Nature shines through the cat's eyes.\" The energy of the great cat balances the generous, giving nature of those born in the month of Tinne. The Celtic harvest festival Lugnasadh is celebrated on Aug. 1. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"}, {"response": 4, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (10:50)", "body": "COLL; Aug. 7-Sept. 2 Tree: Hazel Symbol: Salmon Coll is the month of Hazel, the Celtic \"Tree of Wisdom.\" People born in the month of Coll have a gift for intuition and great wisdom. They often make excellent scholars, poets, and scientists. Inner journeys are the key to unlocking the special gifts of Coll people. Hazel branches are used as divining rods to uncover earth's hidden springs. In Celtic legend, salmon ate the Nine Hazels of Wisdom and knew all things. A Druid told his servant, the boy Fionn MacCumaill, to cook the salmon, but not eat a bit of it. Fionn burned his finger when he poked the salmon and licked it to cool the burn. At that moment, all knowledge left the salmon and entered Fionn. MUIN; Sept. 3-Sept. 30 Tree: Vine Symbol: Swan Muin heralds a time of full ripening and pleasures of the senses. Those born in the month of Muin are expressive and feel emotions strongly. Often they are engaged in lifelong pursuits that benefit others. A love of beauty, home, and companionship are often major influence on decisions. Vine twists and spirals through the life of Muin people, connecting all things. Close lifelong friendships are common for people born under this sign. Swan stories are an important part of Celtic tradition. For gene ations, Celtic bards tell many a tale of those who took the form of graceful swans. This creature is closely connected with enchantment and the Faery realm. Autumnal Equinox is celebrated on Sept. 23."}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "this is very interesting. according to this stuff, i'm associated with uath. hmmm...."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (17:34)", "body": "So am I...and I guess Amy is as well...hmmm...."}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (17:38)", "body": "What happened to the folks born between Sept 30 and Dec 24?? There is no reading for them! Thanks for posting this, Amy!!!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (22:55)", "body": "Happy Samhain, all you Celtic types! GORT; Oct. 1-Oct. 29 Tree: Ivy Symbol: Faery Those born in the month of Gort possess strength, tenacity, and a deep connection with the past. They are often drawn to the study of ancient cultures, legends, and the mystical arts. Strong psychic skills and charisma are common in Gort people. Ivy is a bridge between the world of the Faery realm and the world of humans. The strength, mystery, and beauty of ivy delight the senses. Faeries, the good folk of the Sidhe, once walked the human realm as the Tuatha De Danaan. The Faery folk bring gifts of insight, vivid dreams, and enchantment, especially to those born in the month of ivy. The Faeries are playful during the month of Gort and are often seen in the form of butterflies. NGETAL; Oct. 30-Nov. 27 Tree: Reed Symbol: White Hound Ngetal is a month of great power and mystery. Those born at this time are known for their strength, stability, and good judgment. They command respect and admiration from those around them. Reed people have the ability to see many sides of a situation. The reed lives in both water and earth gaining strength and power from both. People born in the month of the reed are often influential and attract many admirers. The swift white hound is ally and friend to those born in Ngetal. This creature of spir t and matter is the companion of leaders. Ancient Celts told of the hound's sleek, efficient power. The Celtic new year Samhain is celebrated on Nov. 1. RUIS; Nov. 28-Dec. 23 Tree: Elder Symbol: Raven Ruis is the month of deep knowing and understanding. Those born under the sign of Ruis are curious, patient, and fair-minded. They often appear older than they are in youth, and younger as they grow older. The gifts of subtlety, healing, and a connection with the cycles of nature are often seen in Ruis people. The elder tree stands at the end of the cycle of renewal and awaits the coming spring. This is the time of the Celtic Yule. Raven flies through space and time carrying the wisdom of nature's c cles of birth, death, and return. Mystery, magic, and the future all accompany the raven. Winter Solstice, the longest night of the year, is celebrated on Dec. 21."}, {"response": 9, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (13:37)", "body": "ROTFLMAO!!!! Guys, this last one is mine! Curious, patient, fair-minded, older than I am in youth, younger as I grow older, subtle, healing ... the list of my gentle character traits is like a melody - it lingers!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (17:13)", "body": "*lol* amy, do you have to be irish for these to apply?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (22:10)", "body": "Hmm, I don't know...maybe just Celtic."}, {"response": 12, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (11:13)", "body": "Ok, I am! (somehow?) At least there were some of those guys around here, many years ago...and I have freckles...is this sufficient?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (12:48)", "body": "Hmm...can you hold your liquor? Are you naturally melancholy? Is green your favorite color? I should make a list, like the \"You might be a redneck\" list, for \"You might be Irish (or Celtic) if...\" Someone has probably already done that somewhere."}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (16:34)", "body": "If you have any European ancestry unless you are pure Finnish or far Nordic, the Celtic men had their way with your greatx100-grandmother in which case there were little hapa-Celtic kiddies running around to grow up and mate with the little boys who came with the next wave of migration. We all seem to have some blood in there somewhere - it comes to the surface at odd times!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (17:09)", "body": "Oh, those naughty Celtic boyos! You know, the priests made the Irish dance with their arms down stiffly to their sides because the way they danced was too lewd! (Just thought you might find that interesting.)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (18:10)", "body": "haha!! so that's why they dance that way!!!! well, there is some irish on my dad's side so i guess i qualify for this topic *grin*"}, {"response": 17, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (19:36)", "body": "C\ufffdad M\ufffdle F\ufffdilte, Wolf! If you have even a little bit of Irish in you, you qualify!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (21:46)", "body": "Even the Scots-Irish my father refused to recognize counts with the russet overtones in my hair..."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (21:48)", "body": "Do you have any idea what they were doing with their hands before that was considered lewd? Inquiring minds want to know... In hula one is admonished to keep the eyes on the hands...but that is to keep them off of other more suggestive places!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (22:55)", "body": "I can only guess what they were doing with their hands...I actually heard that story from Michael Flatley, who was giving an interview on Bravo. He said that he wanted to put the arm movement back into Irish dancing (which, if you've seen him, he doesn't always keep his arms down,) as well as some other, non-lewd things that had been taken out for whatever reason."}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "He has gotten so far afield from true Celtic dancing and into showbiz glitz that the last PBS show he did was an affront...or was it just me?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:14)", "body": "Well, I think it's the difference between American Irish dancing and Irish Irish dancing. In Ireland, the rules are EXTREMELY strict--teachers have to be certified through Dublin, kicks can only be so high, costumes have to be all the same type, girls must always wear ringlets, and there are certain moves that boys don't do, and things like that. I think in the United States, however, the rules are much looser so Irish dancing is evolving while still keeping its uniqueness (crossed feet, stiff legs, shu fles, that kind of thing.)"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:17)", "body": "Please keep it classic - or its appeal will disappear as it blurs into other forms of breakdancing or whichever way it mutates. Bouncing ringlets are lovely, btw, especially if your hair is strawberry blonde *grin*"}, {"response": 24, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:20)", "body": "I don't think it's going to go that far and still be recognizable as Irish dancing, at least as long as there are teachers who know what they're doing. It wouldn't be Irish dancing if the feet weren't crossed at all times with one knee in front of the other--that's the main thing. Alas, I have no more ringlets--I'd have to wear one of those strange little half-wigs so that it would look like I had long hair!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:24)", "body": "...and pray that it stayed in place and attached to you through the entire workout (which appears to be quite vigorous). Have the dancers thighs and buns of steel from all of that footwork? Do the Irish ever sword dance like the Scots?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:34)", "body": "Nope, sword dancing is just a Scottish thing. I think it would be very hard to mince over swords like that without using one's arms for balance... Irish dancing is very hard on the legs and most professional dancers you see have legs like little sticks. It's very hard on the knees and ankles, and you wouldn't think this, but it's terrible on the toes. When I was dancing, I couldn't wear open-toed shoes because my feet looked just awful."}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:40)", "body": "...and pray that it stayed in place and attached to you through the entire workout (which appears to be quite vigorous). Have the dancers thighs and buns of steel from all of that footwork? Do the Irish ever sword dance like the Scots?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:44)", "body": "Mincing over swords - how funny and how true!!! One definitely needs one's arms for all that maneuvering. I noted that their legs were thin - where are the muscles you use? Your buns MUST be steel!!! (Toes and dancing just do not get along - in Ballroom, they are getting trod on; in ballet it is the worst - like Chinese foot-binding!)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:50)", "body": "I've heard ballet dancers have very ugly feet, too... Directly after my dance class (when the ballroom was stinking to high heaven from all of our sweating,) the ballroom dance class would come in, and they always had on the most unbelievable shoes! How women could dance very well in such spiky little heels, I have no idea. I had a dance class when I was a freshman (stupid PE requirement,) and my partner was very bad so I had to drag her through all the dances, and she was always stepping on my feet, too!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:56)", "body": "You haven't lived till you have been invited to join Dahncing Clahss determined to make you presentable to Society (with a capital S). It begins in 6th grade and you wear little patent-leather shoes and white socks and white gloves and have to Dahnce with little boys who are also in the 6th grade and who are not as tall as you are and grab your butt to \"stear\" you around the floor. It is downhill from there!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (23:59)", "body": "ok....they \"STEER\" you around the floor and slip the worms they have in their pockets into your gloves while you try to wriggle away from them without getting a disapproving look from the instructors...suffer...suffer...and look what good it did me *lol*"}, {"response": 32, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (00:00)", "body": "Oh dear, and I thought square dancing in junior high PE (when the boys tried to promenade you by dragging you,) was bad enough!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (00:02)", "body": "I remember that...I did not weigh much and I can recall one evening when I was flung from one guy to another without touching the floor all evening...it was very odd. That was my Freshman year in college and the guys were stoked on testosterone, I guess. I had almost forgotten..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (02:33)", "body": "HA-HA! So THAT'S what those guys were trying to do back then - they were trying to lift one! Proud to say they NEVER managed it with me! Oh $hit no, THAT'S not a thing to be proud of!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (18:10)", "body": "can i interject? michael whatever his name is vain. i can't stand the man. let the irish dance stay the way it was intended and don't change it to americanize it."}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (19:55)", "body": "Ree, you are quite right about that! \"Back then...\" Have men and boys changed that much in the years since I was a Freshman? Wolfie, I agree totally. The man (Michael Flatly or however he spells it) lost me on the last PBS special. Nauseating! Self-promotion of the worst sort. (Guess I am a purist at heart...)"}, {"response": 37, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (10:24)", "body": "Marcia, no, probably not. But I can't say a man has tried to lift me recently. The last time was on my wedding day when Chris tried to carry me across the threshold and his back went 'click' - and that was it. He never dared try it again! Actually, I don't think ANY male person has ever managed to lift me off the ground! ha-ha!!! I've never seen that Michael person. But I have to say I also dislike it when tradition gets turned into a pi$$ing contest."}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (14:40)", "body": "That is exactly what it has turned into...! Big buck and tradition be damned! To be fair, Chris was carrying his whole family across the threshold that eventful day. No wonder his back went 'click'!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (18:00)", "body": "i must say that the AM can still carry me around. not that he wishes he'd have more chances to do so, mind you."}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (18:04)", "body": "Oooh, that is lovely! I think just about anyone can carry me around, but not many offers...except from the most discerning. *grin*"}, {"response": 41, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Nov  5, 1999 (09:34)", "body": "That's cute, Wolfie. And Marcia, how LUCKY can one person get to be so petite??? Chris NEVER tried again with me! ha-ha! Actually, he's invited me out for dinner tonight - I have to get him to carry me at some point, just to see what it is; am I too heavy, or is he too weak??? My grandma is 70, and also quite tiny. I always carry her around when she gets mad at me - then she starts to giggle all over the place!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Nov  6, 1999 (10:00)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  8, 1999 (15:23)", "body": "The only problem with being petite and having L o n g legs is that my jeans tend to look like they go on forever...same with long arms and neck. One must dress properly so as to look proportional (though I got the current house male because he liked the way I looked walking away from him with all those legs and the things to which they are attached...which has nothing whatever to do with the topic! Sorry..."}, {"response": 44, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (07:37)", "body": "Yep. It must be a tough life to have long, thin legs that make your jeans look like they go on forever....you poor, poor THANG, you! \ufffdblowing raspberry\ufffd"}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (13:15)", "body": "...so much for sumthing in the sympathy vein...*lol*"}, {"response": 46, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (13:20)", "body": "I was just thinking about how short my legs are today--I had to trot alongside one of my very tall and long-legged professors to keep up with him! I looked like one of those dogs running alongside a carriage in a 19th century print!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (17:16)", "body": "haha!!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "*lol* Amy and all the rest. I am just wondering when I get my share of \"voluptuous\" like I know some of the rest of you have...*sigh* Or, did someone make off with my share?!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "Hmm, perhaps if you put both of us in a bag and shook us up, we'd both be better off! *giggle* Believe me, you don't want to be too voluptuous--there are too few men who find that attractive anymore!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (19:49)", "body": "what about voluptuous but upside down? that's me! *grin*"}, {"response": 51, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (19:53)", "body": "trying to picture that..."}, {"response": 52, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (19:57)", "body": "it's easy, call it the pear..."}, {"response": 53, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (20:13)", "body": "Oh, I see. I'm more what you'd call \"Rubenesque\"!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (20:30)", "body": "Ok...ok...at least with the willowy sort like I am (all lithe and limber) gravity does not take as big a toll on our anatomy as on the more bountifully endowed...!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (20:35)", "body": "\"Bountifully endowed\"--hahaha! I'll have to remember that one!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (20:57)", "body": "Did you see they are having an auction of Beethoven, Bronte and BYRON signatures?! My Reuters ticker says so."}, {"response": 57, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (21:16)", "body": "No kidding? I think there are actually a lot of them running around...I guess I could buy one and save it until I get a real office! (To hang it on the wall, of course.)"}, {"response": 58, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (21:18)", "body": "I wonder how he's signed his name on the ones that are up for auction? Sometimes he signed it just \"Byron,\" or \"George Byron,\" or even \"Noel Byron.\" Sometimes he didn't sign his letters at all!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (21:18)", "body": "No kidding? I think there are actually a lot of them running around...I guess I could buy one and save it until I get a real office! (To hang it on the wall, of course.)"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (21:29)", "body": "usually, nobility signed their given names -George Gordon in his case - until they came into the titlem then they just sign Byron (as P charles signs Wales.)"}, {"response": 61, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (21:53)", "body": "Well, Byron was kind of an odd fellow--I saw a picture of a ring he'd given Augusta, and it said \"from your loving brother Noel Byron.\" His whole name was George Gordon Noel Byron, but I don't know why the ring said that."}, {"response": 62, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (23:07)", "body": "Having Irish ancestors I am glad to find this site and enjoy it very much. Being a good Irishman, my grandfather brought his horses when he came to this country and sent for his wife later."}, {"response": 63, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Nov 10, 1999 (04:16)", "body": "Life doesn't get alot more practical than that! Welcome Lucille!!! Where do you live now?"}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 10, 1999 (12:50)", "body": "Lucie!!! Welcome from Drool to the really wierd world of this stuff. However did you get to Alaska, or was that where your grandfather settled? I know how you got to Florida!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Nov 13, 1999 (11:41)", "body": "Well, considering that he could make money with his horses, and only babies with his wife..."}, {"response": 66, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Nov 14, 1999 (02:47)", "body": "ha-ha!!!! paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 21, "subject": "Guardian Angels", "response_count": 135, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (22:37)", "body": "I knew nothing of mine until I checked my Birthdate and birthstone in http://www.gemstone.org/gematic.html and discovered mine (and all ) had their own talismanic gems. Check it out!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (10:18)", "body": "How did they know? Amethysts, garnets (and amber) are the stones I love most!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (12:00)", "body": "You girls lost me - what's the connection between gems and angels again? (Please speak slow - I'm male)"}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (13:02)", "body": "We have no idea, but go to that URL and put your birthday month and day in the little spaces and hit the submit key. It will tell you all sorts of stuff!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (17:04)", "body": "and i created this topic so we could talk specifically guardian angels and keep general angel discussion in its topic. and about that url, how does one guardian angel watch over the many people born on the same date? think it's interesting but am sure we each get our own."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:11)", "body": "Perhaps we get the one we deserve - like we supposedly get the politicians we deserve...Wanna bet?!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:15)", "body": "I am searching for relevant web sites and am not having much luck - found the ghetto vigilantes, though!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:16)", "body": "we get the politicians we vote for based on their empty promises! i think guardian angels are much more substantial!! *grin*"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:17)", "body": "Oook, I also see they are a group of adults trying to get pedophiles. This might just be the hottest topic you ever created, Wolfie! WoW!!!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "eeeuuuwww! you know that wasn't the intention of this topic....."}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "Wolfie, how come the guys I vote for never seem to get elected lately?!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:23)", "body": "maybe it has to do with electoral votes...we go to the polls but those guys do the real deciding, methinks...."}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:27)", "body": "considering they were put into place when only land-owning MEN could vote...I am not surprised...!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (20:28)", "body": "hmmm...something to think about. you got politics on the brain tonight, marcia?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  1, 1999 (22:04)", "body": "Not necessarily - do not like the stuff, actually. It just happened to cross my mind when I was searching for Guardian Angel sites..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (18:11)", "body": "so, did you have any luck finding sites?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (20:05)", "body": "here's a site i found while searching for guardian angels. it's interesting to say the least, but i don't know how valid it is. haven't gone all the way through the site, but if it does have questionable material (i.e., hate, porno, etc.), i'll remove the link. http://www2.dgsys.com/~jkirk/page3.html"}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (20:15)", "body": "here's a really pretty site on the subject of angels. the link i have here is what the bible says about angels. http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Quarter/2724/angel5.html most of the guardian angel sites we're finding have to do with street vigilantes."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  2, 1999 (21:43)", "body": "My above Response 11 is the first page of that site which seems to be most about Guardian Angels as we mean the name. I also do not know if it contains objectionable material...I am surprised there is not more on the web about them."}, {"response": 20, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (15:38)", "body": "The second site your mentioning in post 18 is most beautiful done. It reminded me of those wonderful turn-of-the-century Guardian Angel pictures you can get at fleamarkets. People had them above their beds. I always wanted to have one but they've gotten very expensive...They often show little children sleeping and an angel watching over them."}, {"response": 21, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (15:54)", "body": "There were some very nice copies of reliefs at the Thorvaldsen-Museum in Kopenhagen...Angels carrying little babies.. but they were to expensive for me, too..."}, {"response": 22, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "Isn't this beautiful? : http://www.goddesses.com/shopping121.html"}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (18:11)", "body": "i checked out the rest of the site in 11 and it's clean."}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (18:13)", "body": "#22, that relief is beautiful. it won't come out any clearer? that's too bad."}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (19:49)", "body": "Absolutely beautiful! But, they are all portraying them as women, and Angels are MEN! Every last one of them."}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (20:27)", "body": "angels were made without sex, i thought. but that does raise a question, why were they all given male names? hmmmmm.....lemme do some reading...."}, {"response": 27, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (10:25)", "body": "I guess if we wanted to we COULD call them Gabriella, Daniella and Michaela ...."}, {"response": 28, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov  4, 1999 (18:03)", "body": "maybe they were just given those names just to call them something. what if they were given gender neutral names that are so popular now-a-days, like tracy, tory, alice (!!), dakota, tyler, taylor, etc...."}, {"response": 29, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Nov  5, 1999 (09:36)", "body": "Or the angel WOLF for that matter!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  8, 1999 (15:25)", "body": "Good point, Ree. First I called Wolf a him, and William corrected me. Then I thought it was her last name and thought her husband was german...I am so confused...*sigh*"}, {"response": 31, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  8, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "haha!! you're not the first to think me and he! i'm german, the AM is french-canadian/polish and wolf is way tooooooo short to be my last name!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov  8, 1999 (19:38)", "body": "I know....I went back through the chronicles of Spring and found your married name...I'll bet you have to spell that mouthful each and every time you use it! It is very lovely old southern, though!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov  8, 1999 (19:47)", "body": "i have to spell both parts of my name nearly everyday!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (07:38)", "body": "Wolfie's name is Elke and then that fancy French business at the end of it, right?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov  9, 1999 (12:21)", "body": "I went from Hemming to Little then back to Hemming again. To Little they wanted to add a y instead of an i so they could fancy it up. Hemming is another problem. For some reason they keep wanting to add an s to the end, even though I am just one Hemming...or drop one of the m's....Ree what was your maiden name? (Longer than Walton, I'll wager!)"}, {"response": 36, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Nov 10, 1999 (04:20)", "body": "No, no, a good little jewish name - Steyn. Marcia, you were called 'Little Marcia'?? That's really cute!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 10, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "Oh yes, I was called that, but I am 5'6\" so I am only petite in dimentions of ands and feet and other things...I told you I had l o n g legs...! David was iki which is Hawaiian for little...and his email still uses that name. The only really authentic Dutchman I ever knew had the last name of Balvoord. I am sure you had to spell Steyn (Like the German Stein? or more like the English Stain?) each time you used it. Walton is such an easily recognizable name. In just about any language!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 10, 1999 (12:58)", "body": "Jewish name? But I thought you had just converted...or are you returning to the faith of your ancestors?! (None of my business, of course! Just curious!)"}, {"response": 39, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (08:24)", "body": "Back to the ancestors' faith, I guess. The great grandparents decided to become protestant in order to share in the privileges that protestant whites had above blacks, jews and non-protestants. Selling their souls as it were. In that regime protestantism and fascism inevitably went hand in hand. In trying to be what they weren't they became so radically fascist that it was pretty unbearable by the time I was born into the family. Imagine! Jews suppressing blacks! Identities don't get alot more scre ed up than that, I suspect! Made me turn away from religion altogether between ages 15 and 22. That didn't work either. So in the end I felt the best thing would be to go back to being what I would have been. That's when I converted back, to Juda\ufffdsm; things feel as it should now. My sister has become an athe\ufffdst, so in the company of strangers we are more or less regarded as walking identity disasters! ha-ha!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (12:51)", "body": "Ree, I think you chose wisely. I wish your sister well, but somehow, we do not seem able to do it on our own. I was married to an athiest and they end up calloused to delicate things which conscience makes us think the better of. Perhaps she will see the wisdom of what you have done and rethink her choice. Again, you prove a most worthy sister and companion *hugs*"}, {"response": 41, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (14:34)", "body": "\ufffdsmile\ufffd That's kind of you, Marci. I don't think she'll rethink easily though. She's a scientist, more of an intellectual than I am. But also a great deal 'nicer' - meaning vulnerable, and I t think it's more or less impossible for one like her to become hard. She's just naturally kind, but felt such revolt at the wrongs she saw done under the banner of religion that she cannot believe it exists now. I think that conscience or lack thereof is something that depends on the individual entirely. My sister is asically a more decent person than I am, and here are alot of religious bastards in the world as well. And who knows, perhaps there really is no God. I sometimes think that whether there is or isn't a God depends on people rather than the truth. I actually learn as much about myself and what I believe from my sister's lack of belief than she does from the strength of mine. It's cool to have such a sister."}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (14:47)", "body": "I am happy you and your twin have such closeness. She sounds much like me (not that I am claiming all of her loving attributes), but I consider myself a deist or perhaps an agnostic - simply because I do not KNOW. And, I do not know how to know...so I keep trying to be nice and loving and open-minded. I am a scientific sort, as well, and if you look up vulnerable in the dictionary my picture is there as an example. However, no matter your convictions, no one can doubt the horrors done in the name of o ganized religion, and the self-appointed self-righteous of the world will continue to alienate those of us to whom God has not yet chosen to reveal Himself."}, {"response": 43, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (07:32)", "body": "Back to guardian angels - why did this topic start? Has anyone experiences? I believe I've met mine twice, but I never talk about it cos ...."}, {"response": 44, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:15)", "body": "why? afraid they won't come back to visit you? if i met my guardian angel, i know i would mess my pants....so just knowing that they're around is enough for me *grin* i had a jacob's ladder dream when i was nine. remember it to this day as if i dreamt it last night. i was looking out the living room window and suddenly a ladder came down from heaven with clouds surrounding the top. Jesus came down in dark blue and dark red robes along with a bunch of angles. He said \"Come\" and i did. the angels went with me to school and gave me help in art (one of my fave subjects) and math (my worst subject) and there were angels for everyone. after the day was over the angels ascended back up the ladder with Jesus."}, {"response": 45, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:15)", "body": "(that would be a bunch of angels not angles!)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:20)", "body": "No I'm not scared - it's more that being English you don't talk abut such things - people think you're wierd. I think that's a lovely dream and it's no wonder it's still fresh for you. Faith and life is (was) much simpler when we're children. I feel quite vulnerable here."}, {"response": 47, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:23)", "body": "not to worry, maggie, no one will laugh at you here. afterall, that's what this topic is for, to talk about our experiences *hugs*"}, {"response": 48, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:34)", "body": "Thanks. Well, here goes. First I was seven, we hadn't long moved house and I was in bed in my new bedroom feeling very wierd and rather frightened. It was dark and there were lots of unfamiliar shadows. I am sure i was awake and not dreaming. A light appeared in the corner and just sort of grew until it filled the space (of the corner) and everything else was dark. There weren't any features as such but a sort of warm friendly presence, and a 'sort of voice' just said 'go to sleep, I'm here'. So I did and from then on I knew I was being looked after. The second time was many years later when I was nursing and living in the nurses home. A friend and I were concerned very deeply about something, and we had decided to spend a day praying and fasting about it. Sometime in the afternoon we both became aware of a light in an area of the room. It was very similar to my childhood experience, same friendly presence with no features, except my friend also saw it. This time the 'voice' said (to us both) 'get up and eat, you're hungry, it is done'. So, although we had planned to spend much longer in prayer, we stopped and ate, and felt that a battle had been won."}, {"response": 49, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:38)", "body": "can you say goosebumps? wow, those are remarkable experiences maggie, thank you for sharing them. i've heard calming voices too but they're usually inside my head. it was like praying and being answered with words but only so i could hear. another time i was standing at my bedroom window marvelling at the clouds in the sky and a voice said \"you are my child\" and it was calming and wonderful."}, {"response": 50, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:48)", "body": "I've often had that, but only the two times the visible presence. I soon learnt (as a child) that you just don't talk about it though. Even in Christian circles it's not done. In some ways it's more difficult now there's so much on 'guardian angels'. As a child I took it for granted that everyone had similar experiences. I don't know where you're coming from on all this, but I had a pretty regular 'Anglican' upbringing, and had a comfortable relationship with God. (I still do) I also had my own language to talk to him in, and had another strange experience, when I was about five. I was skipping to school on my own singing in my 'language' when I met this black man. Now in London at that time, this was not a common experience. He stopped me, looked at me very kindly, and said 'child, you are blessed'. I carried on to school, turned to look round, and he had gone. From then on I was almost convinced that my angel was black, except he shone. This seems really wierd talking about it!!!!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:57)", "body": "that's so cool! i think your angel would show themself in a way that you would remember them. i've always been comfortable with God but my upbringing was strict and i always thought God was like my own father-i'd be punished harshly and always loved out of fear. only as i've grown have i learned it's not like that at all. He has blessed me indeed! have always known angels to be real. wanted to see mine in all it's glory but told God that probably wouldn't be a good idea as i'd have a heart attack on the spot! i've always joked with God and i know i've heard Him laugh! (i'm a real punster sometimes)"}, {"response": 52, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:01)", "body": "Me too. I just know God has a sense of humour. He must have to make me anyway!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:03)", "body": "me too! and do you talk to Him like a regular person? i've never thought that He liked to be talked to as if He were far away. to me, He'd rather us talk to Him like we do each other. well, that's the way it is for me, anyway..."}, {"response": 54, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:09)", "body": "True. Sometimes, I think I'm probably a bit too flippant (is that how it's spelt it looks odd?). I think those childhood experiences certainly made a difference to me. On the other hand I also feel pain at things too when things aren't right. Can't explain, but I think it's sort of the flip side."}, {"response": 55, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:12)", "body": "definitely think my relationship with Him as a child has influenced my adult relationship with Him. still talk to Him as a child would."}, {"response": 56, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:14)", "body": "I think that's positive, don't you? Do you think this concept of guardian angels is wider than judeo-christian? If so, why is that?"}, {"response": 57, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:20)", "body": "i think guardian angels exists in all religions. as our talk in geo, perhaps those are the beings that came down from the sky...."}, {"response": 58, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:22)", "body": "maggie, this is most excellent conversation! i've gotta run (mardi gras parade time for me) but will be back so please continue to post your thoughts!!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:22)", "body": "Wow! I feel left out of the heavenly stuff. Mayhaps I am still being refined or something..."}, {"response": 60, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:29)", "body": "Naah - you must be perfect - we're catching up!!!! *lol*"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:39)", "body": "I am honored and full of chicken-skin at being allowed to share in your incredible experiences. It must be a terrific comfort that if all abandon you, you will never be alone. I am terrified (irrationally, I know) of being alone. Please continue, ladies, as you get the chance!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:44)", "body": "I think being terrified is a normal human experience, and (as you know me a bit now Marcia) I feel isolated at times. I think the difference for me is the knowledge of a safety net. There's a whole lot of difference between feeling and knowing. I didn't say I never had doubts!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (13:55)", "body": "Oh, I totally understand about never having doubts - it is the human condition. I should think it would give you a self-confidence to tackle things the rest of would shy away from simply because of that safety net. You were meant for greater works than those not chosen, I believe. I have always fetl apart from the rest....However...!!!! I remember something! A few years I was just about incapacitated with back spasms and relegated to lying on the living room floor for most of the day. One evening the man of the house went out to a meeting and left me along. I felt very vulnerable and frightened. Suddenly, I was flooded beginning from the top of my head to my encompass my entire being with the most comforting feeling. Nothing hurt, I sat up and the feeling remained for many minutes. I knew I would be alright. It was most remarkable."}, {"response": 64, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (16:11)", "body": "Why am I not surprised???"}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (17:25)", "body": "*grin*"}, {"response": 66, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (21:42)", "body": "me either! it's hard to take comfort knowing that \"we are not alone\" when you aren't able to see your comforter with the human eye. you have to just believe and that can be disheartening when you feel so far away."}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:01)", "body": "It is, indeed. They must know that, too..."}, {"response": 68, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:13)", "body": "indeed they do....did you see city of angels?"}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:46)", "body": "...no..."}, {"response": 70, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:55)", "body": "oh, well, it made me cry...but i don't think angels can fall in love with people. they can turn against God and fall, but in love with a person? are we that fascinating that they'd want to? it's a romantic idea for sure (and who wouldn't want their angel to be nicholas cage?)...don't think he was a guardian angel for her, just happened to be there...."}, {"response": 71, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (23:00)", "body": "Angels are male or non-gendered in The Bible. I am sure they are not suceptable to human wiles and infatuations. Unless they are inventing a non-Biblical being with a lot of wishful thinking, romance is impossible! (Yeah, I know...kill-joy was here!)"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (23:02)", "body": "(I had someone else in mind, actually...)"}, {"response": 73, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (08:31)", "body": "Have either of you read This Present Darkness by Frank Peretti? If you haven't may I suggest you try and find a copy. It's really a novel about what we are talking about. I found it very moving, and amazing that someone else 'saw' things as I did. I don't have a copy at the moment because I gave my last one away to the insurance salesman who we've known for years and who was talking about the same sort of things! From the publicity blurb: Ashton was not a big town, orimportant - just a name on the map. Yet it was here that three very different characters would face the hardest tests of their lives. Marshall Hogan - an ex-city newspaper editor with an eye for a story and a nose for something rotten. Hank Busche - the young pastor of a small church in danger of tearing itself apart. Tal - captain of the angelic warriors summoned to make a stand against an encroaching tide of evil and deception. Each one fighting an enemy that was callous and clever, often hidden, never asleep. And each one needing the others more than any would dare to believe. 'Understanding that this life is not a battle between flesh and blood butwith unseen principalities, our abilities to imagine the spiritual world is crucial. This present darkness is quite a springboard into that arena. I have to tell you the book ISN'T frightening any more than this discussion is, but I found it quite gripping. I have the sequel too."}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (10:40)", "body": "High recommendation, indeed. I shall look for it!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (11:00)", "body": "It was in the Christian bookstores a few years back, but I guess soemwhere like Amazon.com should have them."}, {"response": 76, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (11:02)", "body": "I have another strange story for you - but I shall leave you waiting for it while I go and watch a reconstruction of a victorian wedding on the TV followed by my favourite archeology programme Time team."}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (12:17)", "body": "Time Team is coming to either Discovery or The Learning Channel. I am loooking forward to it very much! I am delighted that you recommend it so highly! *waiting semi-patiently* for your strange story...."}, {"response": 78, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (13:26)", "body": "it is? (time team) and hurry up, the suspense is terrible!"}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (13:46)", "body": "*not breathing out yet and turning blue and woozy*"}, {"response": 80, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (13:54)", "body": "\"Ancient Voices\" (Stonehenge, pyramids, ElDorado, The Holy Grail, Dead Sea Scrolls so far) is a joint effort of the BBC and TLC. I have their brochure in my lap as I type. Looks fascinating!!! A set of books I'd love to have is by Time-Life also brochure in lap concerns The Real Arthur, Dancing with Wolves, The Enigma of Egypt, Tibet's Lost Horizon, Forests of the Vampyer, Greeks, Norse, Romans - sigh! I hope they make videos out of it! I just talked to the house male and he reminded me of the books I have lost to bugs....arrrrrrrgh!"}, {"response": 81, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (14:13)", "body": "OK *breathe Marcia!* here goes. Setting: mud hut, Gambian village on the night we were to leave the village for good. (Yes it's one of those again *lol*) T and I were in bed. He's snoring, I'm wide awake. then I'm aware that there are group ofpeople sitting somewhere up around the ceiling. (Remember I'm wide awake). These were african men, looking just like any men in our village, sitting talking, not looking at me or anything, but just there. It's so vivid I can see it now. It wasn't scary or evil but just wierd. I realised they were talking about us, and noting the fact that we were leaving. I nudged T and told him to look. He couldn't see anything of course and rolled over back to sleep. We left the village the following day [school kids lined the street out and waved as we drove past. I felt like royalty.]. We stayed in a hotel for a few days before leaving for England. I met an older missionary who had lived in that village for twelve years. We got on well, so rather nervously I told her my story. 'Oh you saw the village guardians' she said, not apparently at all surprised, 'they were just noting you were leaving'. It carries on - we had been looking after the village ducks in a mud brick duck house complete with pond on our compound because people said they were 'safe' with us. The night after we left a black mamba snake came and took three ducks."}, {"response": 82, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (15:58)", "body": "Phew! Maggie! It was worth the wait and I am all chicken skin again. You must be super-sensitive to those things like Wolfie is. How lovely to have seen that angels come in ethnicities so they don't worry the \"natives\" whether they be African, English, Polynesian or whatever. I never thought about that! I should have thought it a tremendous privilege to be allowed to see them."}, {"response": 83, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (16:20)", "body": "i don't know how you just laid there and watched this! they must have given you a sense of calm and safety. and that about the ducks, wow! thanks maggie!!"}, {"response": 84, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (20:00)", "body": "I wonder if it is like the visionaries who are in a state of suspended animation during their visions?! Maybe Maggie could not move?!"}, {"response": 85, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (03:01)", "body": "No, I was perfectly OK, sane, just rather curious. It wasn't frightening at all. It didn't even seem like a vision just sort of normal!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (03:10)", "body": "I don't know about being particularly sensitive. I think it's more like bening aware of another dimension. I think ofit as like the wind. I've never seen the wind as such, but I see it's effects and feel it and therefore believe it's there. That's often used in Christian circles as an analogy for the Holy Spirit or often belief in God. I'm not totally sure what I 'saw' were angels in the sense we've been talking about, although they were definitely spirits of somekind, and they felt neutral although not personal. In fact the overwhelming feeling was the normality of it."}, {"response": 87, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (12:46)", "body": "Not sure about that, Maggie. I am super-aware of my surroundings and hear things hardly anyone else can but I have never been chosen to be seen by spirits of any kind."}, {"response": 88, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (12:58)", "body": "marcia, they'll show themselves and how do you know they haven't already, in a form that is pleasing so as not to frighten you? maggie, i wouldn't have been able to lay there and watch...."}, {"response": 89, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (13:13)", "body": "Unless they are the kind strangers who come with the visiting teams or the occasional supportive male in my life, some of whom I have never seen...I cannot think of anyone who might have been these enchanting beings. I will be alert for them from now on!"}, {"response": 90, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (13:33)", "body": "Haven't you heard of entertaining Angels unawares? *lol* Very biblical I can assure you!!! I think one difficulty with this kind of talk is the tendency to divide into haves and have nots and I don't like that. I checked with husband - he says I am sensitive in the way we were talking about - so I guess I'll just have to accept that. I just don't like being different and don't feel special or anything. Marcia, somewhere else, you said you didn't believe in the paranormal (I know it was in a totally different context), but does belief have something to do with this, as well as awareness? I don't think it's necessarily related to how we're brought up, my family didn't go to church and are not religious at all, yet I had that awareness of God, and for want of a better term, 'the other world' as far back as I can remember. I can certainly sense 'bad things' and that goes back as far as I can remember too. One reason you won't find me in some topics here is because of that. I'm not being condemning, but it's not right for me. I'm thinking with my fingers here, so this isn't necessarily well thought out arguing or even what I'll wish i had said later. Back to what you said wolfie about not being able to lie there and watch. Well, it just didn't feel 'wrong' so I wasn't scared or anything (and I have been believe me). With any of the 'right' things I can't emeber being scared because what was happening felt so normal. I've never been in a trance in my life, or had extatic visions. Occasionaly when I've been praying for someone I get pictures or insights, but again these are always very low key and 'normal'. methinks I am protesting too much!! Shut up maggie."}, {"response": 91, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (13:45)", "body": "i know what you mean, maggie, there are some topics in here that i won't delve into because of how i feel about them...and one reason why i haven't opened a witchcraft topic, yuck....i don't feel special, because i dream about angels....this is normal for me, just as it is normal for me to dream about dead friends and animals who come to tell me everything is ok for them. nothing scary about it either. you can be around angels all the time and not even know it (well, you are at any rate), i mean being able to see them. my family stopped going to church when i was a teenager. it was only me going every sunday because i needed to be there. and because i was able to do so on my own, i believe it depended my relationship with God. now, i'd be a liar to feel like i'm all alone, esp. when i went through therapy and felt all that anger. i knew i wasn't alone in my heart, but because no one came in and fixed things, i sure felt alone and forgotten."}, {"response": 92, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:03)", "body": "I can identify with that. We still need human company,hugs, appreciation etc. I think without it we wither and shrink emotionally. Somewhere within each of us the child we were is still remembered and feels that aloneness, abandonment, and yes, anger. You realise I'm speaking personally too. Therapy can help the child to grow up and be assimilated into the adult, but I think that somehow the scars are still there. Sometimes, just like physical scars from injuries they can get inflamed from rubbing and boy does it hurt! However, as you said, underneath all that we have the assurance that we are loved, and cared for and are not alone. Strangely I found a relationship with Jesus more difficult that a relationship with God. This is a bit away from guardian angels, but I think behind what we were talking about earlier is 'comfort'. I'm convinced that revalations of the type we have talked about are never accidental but always for a purpose. Have a hug!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:07)", "body": "thanks! needed one (am stressing big time, leaving me anxious)"}, {"response": 94, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:09)", "body": "oh, and i've always taken Jesus hand and hand with God. feel bad sometimes because i'll go straight to \"the man\" a lot, but that's alright, i know, because they both listen....and it's not far off the topic of guardian angels, because who'd ya think gave them to us? *grin*"}, {"response": 95, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:12)", "body": "i also think therapy can help us bring out the kid in us whom we've supressed because of all the mistrust and betrayal around us, growing up too fast...."}, {"response": 96, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:16)", "body": "Mmm not sure why I had the difficulty. Funny really because my Dad was never close, he had a bad war experience and it affected him. I'd have thought that would have affected the 'God the father' bit. I found a nice 'angel' peom i think you'll like. I'll stick it in Angels for variety!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:24)", "body": "thanks! my mother was the distant one in my household and i know it had to do with her background. but you still blame yourself, it's a human fault...."}, {"response": 98, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:30)", "body": "Maggie, you are not different - I think I am and I have always been made to feel that way by my very dysfunctional family. This Spring experience is the first time I have not chosen to sit in the corner and be passive. Anyone who accepts me nowadays is an angel to me, You and Wolfie included!"}, {"response": 99, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:39)", "body": "When I said I did not believe in the paranormal I should have qualified that statement by saying it is just because I have never experienced it that I am aware of. My family considered me something like Cinderella without a prince charming, so I always considered myself somehow unworthy. Please do not shut me out. I want to know and see and believe! Please!!!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:39)", "body": "(*going back to my silent corner*)"}, {"response": 101, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:43)", "body": "no! i'm cinderella (that's how i likened myself as a child)....do not go sit in a corner!!"}, {"response": 102, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:44)", "body": "I think we all got damaged somewhere. That's what's made us into the unique people we are today. Of course we accept you! I said when we started this round of talk that I felt very vulnerable talking about things. I still do. But in the climate we have created here it's OK. Hope you feel that too. I think it should be hugs all round!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:46)", "body": "*HUGS*"}, {"response": 104, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:48)", "body": "Please! Let's have a hug all around...I am sitting here with tears running down my cheeks and I do not let that happen to me very often. *Big Hugs* All Round...boy, I really need that!!!"}, {"response": 105, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "*sniff* Thanks... now you really made me cry, but with much different feelings this time...gonna go regroup and make some lunch..."}, {"response": 106, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "See my email. I think we're all bawling. (I hope no-one else's reading this!)"}, {"response": 107, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:57)", "body": "Nah! They'd never think to look here *smile*"}, {"response": 108, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:31)", "body": "ladies, i'm feeling much better now that the day has got on and the kids are home...thanks!"}, {"response": 109, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:23)", "body": "*Hugs* Wolfie!"}, {"response": 110, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:16)", "body": "*Hugs* Maggie Group hug!!!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "forgot that end tag? *grin*"}, {"response": 112, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "uh oh, now i did something and the type looks weird *eek* how do i undo it?"}, {"response": 113, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:22)", "body": "lemme try putting the tag back"}, {"response": 114, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:22)", "body": "that didn't work!!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:43)", "body": "Sweetie, it looks great here !!!"}, {"response": 116, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (22:07)", "body": "i don't know what happened but the type got all weird and now it's better! *hugs*"}, {"response": 117, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (22:18)", "body": "*hugs* right back atcha. I have had that happen at times and was told by a smarter mind than mine *grin* to dump my cache and reload. It got to be so common an answer that I burst out laughting when I saw the comment aimed at me. Who knows....a Yapp thingy, probably! Like that crazy wallpaper with the purple eyeballs and notes...!"}, {"response": 118, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (16:15)", "body": "found this poem - thought you'd like it! My guardian angel My guardian angel came to me All in gold as i could see. With lovely big wings and a halo over her head She talked to my subconscious and thsi is what she said. let go your love it will be alright It's not too difficult it can be done tonight. The room appeared all in gold shining bright She was so beautiful and made me feel so safe I felt that i was in heaven in god's wonderful garden of peace. I sensed this film over my face My darkest shadows and sadness appeared to lift. Oh its really hard to explain my guardian angel had a lovely smile Letting me know mine had not been there for a while. The evil spirit lifting from inside my soul, slowly Moving away from me and disappearing into the distance. This expereince was wonderful and lasted forty seconds no more. Have my prayers been answered and blessed by my Lord. Is this the start of my healing My new beginning and fulfilment of my life. At last a light is glowing down on my face and now My inner child is beginning to feel safe. (Jo Ellis)"}, {"response": 119, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (20:03)", "body": "thanks for this!"}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "That was the feeling! My thanks, also."}, {"response": 121, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 20, 2000 (18:02)", "body": "ok, have a true story: a friend of a friend (we'll call her S.), collapsed early this morning due to a blood clot in her lung. while she was laying on the floor waiting for the paramedics, her son heard her say (with her eyes wide open) \"you're sooo beautiful, you're so beautiful.\" and then she went back out. please pray for her. she went into cardiac arrest while they were getting her in the ambulance and is currently in a coma. they have her full of blood thinning agents to dissolve the clots. my friend says she saw the Lord, and i kept thinking she saw an angel. not that that matters. but when S. recovers, i hope she remembers."}, {"response": 122, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 20, 2000 (18:19)", "body": "I will, Wolfie and will email this to Maggie in case she does not see it...I think your friend saw and Angel, as well...from what you have told me. How old is the son? I did something almost as radical to my son when he was in kindergarden...but that is not for here."}, {"response": 123, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 20, 2000 (18:24)", "body": "her son is grown (20's) but she does have a daughter who's around 8. and thanks in advance for your support and love."}, {"response": 124, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (22:54)", "body": "You have had it with you all day and night and will continue as long as you need or want it (and probably longer than that) *hugs*"}, {"response": 125, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (04:34)", "body": "That goes for me too Wolfie! *hugs*"}, {"response": 126, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (19:46)", "body": "thanks you guys, they turned off the life support. please pray for her family and friends who truly feel her loss deeply. her organs, those that aren't damaged, will be donated to those who need them. the eeg (or whatever) surmised only 10% brain activity and that she has been gone since she collapsed. perhaps the beautiful being she saw was there to take her. *sad smile* i'm still hoping for a miracle, that her heart will keep beating strong and her brain activity will increase, but the doctors are doubtful."}, {"response": 127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (19:50)", "body": "Wolfie, you have my heart wrapped around you and my prayers and Maggie's as well. How old is she? (Far too young, I know!) My outgoing email is not working this afternoon (evening for you) so I cannot console you properly. Just know I am sending whatever beams I possibly can to you and to S and to her poor family. Her daughter needs her! So does the rest of her family..."}, {"response": 128, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (20:00)", "body": "she's 47. they're already talking about her memorial. i didn't know this, but with organ donors, they pull the plug and wait for the heart to stop and then plug back up to keep the organs fresh. as far as i know, they don't restart the heart. someone at work heard a story (or watched it on tv) about a little boy who had an enormous tumor in his head. the family decided that his organs should be donated to any child who might need them and signed the papers. they took him off the machine and sent him to doctors who would harvest his organs. they did some precautionary tests to determine if he had any reflexes. the boy responded to their prodding. the organ doctors said because he was responding, they would not do anything else. so, yet another surgeon was called in and he said he would try to remove the tumor. he got out 75%. he decided he had to go back in and give this boy a real chance at survival but there would be a danger that the boy wouldn't be able to smile because of the proximity of a facial nerve/muscle to the tumor being removed. the parents gave the ok, the man took out the rest of the tumor, as he was removing it, his scaple came against that muscle but never cut it. the boy survived and recovered. he has no trouble with his mot r skills as far as my co-worker knew. this story is why i'm hoping S. comes back, but part of me has serious doubt."}, {"response": 129, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (20:04)", "body": "Prayer and the human spirit and will to live have done miracles when all else failed. I am fervently in her corner this evening - with you."}, {"response": 130, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (20:05)", "body": "i'll know more tonight, i think...."}, {"response": 131, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (01:38)", "body": "I'm there with you."}, {"response": 132, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (17:40)", "body": "this picture is large but i think it's worth it. whomever was in the crashed lived."}, {"response": 133, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (17:48)", "body": "Good grief, Wolfie...Incredible! (I posted something you might like in Geo 8 just now)"}, {"response": 134, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (11:43)", "body": "That's an amazing photo."}, {"response": 135, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (12:35)", "body": "I've just been sitting here re-reading our old posts from March ...that really was a special time of sharing .... I just remembered another angel encounter ... and as each time it seems familiar I believe it's the same one. I was in Switzerland on a walking holiday when I was 15. We were up in the mountains near Zermatt. We found a small chapel. Te others were milling around outside, I went in by myself. I just knelt quietly, and sensed a presence there. There was an extraordinary feeling of peace and warmth, and love. I went outside and felt as if my face was glowing. paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 22, "subject": "Physical Phenomenon", "response_count": 45, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (21:48)", "body": "Ok, let me start off with a personal experience. no lie, back when i lived in Fort Riley Kansas, my family was outside playing in the yard. it was early evening. all of a sudden my dad said \"look\". so i did and what i saw, i remember to this day like it just happened. in the evening sky, among the relaxed clouds was a strange cloud shape. you know how clouds elongate themselves toward the evening? well, inbetween two such clouds was the profile of what looked like Jesus (or the way we believed Him to loo ). i immediately dropped to my knees. couldn't tell you how long it lasted, but dad and me saw this magnificent site together. now on to something a bit more recent and an occurrence we have been discussing in geospring: bowling ball size ice-balls falling from the sky over Spain. i did some looking today and here's what i found on reuters: Comet Debris, Not Excrement, Rains on Spain MADRID (Reuters) - At least ten melon-sized ice balls that have slammed into Spain in the last week are probably debris from comets, not human excrement as first suspected, a Spanish scientist said Monday. Enrique Martinez, head of a team at the Higher Council of Scientific Investigation studying the phenomenon, said it was first thought that the ice balls were human excrement ejected from high-flying aircraft. ``But they lack the typical coloring and texture we find in those cases,'' he said. A man in southern Spain escaped injury last week when an ice ball eight inches across weighing nine pounds smashed into his car. A further nine ice balls have since been reported around Spain over the last week. strange, eh?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (22:56)", "body": "You are one spiritual lady, Wolfie! If I were divine (and I am far from it) I would seek you out for my apparition. I am delighted you shared this with your Dad. I must have been truly awesome! Now, about that *stuff* which fell on Spain...I remember the guy on TV this morning saying, \"Try explaining that to your insurance agent!\" I am sure they are thin-sectioning the remains and will put it under a scanning electron microscope which will tell a lot, then into a analyzer for elements and chemicals. I think they will find atmospheric dirt and water."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (22:57)", "body": "...but, how did they get that HUGE?!...That is what I want to know!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (18:18)", "body": "i'd love to see pics of it!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (18:56)", "body": "I hunted all morning for the pictures but I guess I am looking the wrong places. Perhaps on CNN or CBS who showed them yesterday... When I find'um I not only will post them, I'll email you the photo file as well!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (19:03)", "body": "cool beans!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (19:15)", "body": "...cool beans? (Thou art so much younger than I...please educate!)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (19:24)", "body": "it means \"great\"!! *grin* (so why didn't you say that in the first place?)"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (19:38)", "body": "Now I can say \"cool beans\" too and be with-it just like the little kids"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (21:15)", "body": "i have temporarily loaded a picture of the iceball at my geocities address. when i'm again able to ftp to spring, it'll be moved over. Iceball"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (21:16)", "body": "oh, i found that pic while rummaging through photo's by country on one of the news sites....."}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 21, 2000 (23:11)", "body": "You'll not like what I just heard on the news. The first few iceballs were real atmospheric oddities. The rest were home made balls created and planted by \"pranksters.\" The real ones are the ones we concentrate on now. Thanks for the photo, Wolfie! Wonder if its the real or or bogus one. No wonder the guy in the lab coat has his hand on his head."}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (06:55)", "body": "Wolf, you're in royal company... ;=) In Guralnick's 2-volume Elvis biography, in Vol. II he describes that Elvis was seing Joe Stalin's face in a cloud in the desert. This has credibly been confirmed by his travel companions. After that, he saw Jesus. This sight was, however, only revealed to him."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (21:08)", "body": "i'm gonna post a link to geomagnetism since they both cover mutual territory: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/paraspring/23 ok, and now some crop circles, this page loads slowly but your patience will pay off: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1700/Crop-Circles/PB-Crop-Circles.html"}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (21:32)", "body": "Gonna go look and post where both of us can see them. Do we know if \"they\" are using sacred geometry or magnetic lines like ley lines? See if i can find anything about them tomorrow - have oodles of links from last year. Good thinking!!!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (21:04)", "body": "chariots of the gods is on right now on TLC. it is discussing theories that our ancient people were visited by other worldly creatures and the evidence that they were here."}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (21:32)", "body": "Got the Book and Von Daniken's other books thanks to my Father's interest in just about everything in the world. If you liked the show, you'll love the books! Thanks, wolfie! I just got home from softball and I am exhausted, sunburnt, and elated that we beat Rice University last night in an incredible baseball game, and Hawaii Pacific U in Softball today. Love to discuss the Chariots with you if you'd like."}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (21:35)", "body": "so this guy isn't the looney tunes guy you were talking about? (von daniken)"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "Well, the committee is still out on that. He seems to see space men as explaining everything he does not understand. He has taken a lot of flack from the mainline Archaeologists and historians. He spawned a whole school of immitators and I ave their books, as well. Want 'um? I'll send you the entire batch! Read his stuff with a huge pinch of skepticism."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (22:39)", "body": "We also need a copy of \"Crash Go the Chariots\" whose author's name escapes me. It was the sane and cool rebuttal of most of the \"facts\" and conclusions Von Daniken came to. You read the books and make up your own mine. I tend to side with the terrestrial sources of genius. But, then, I do not see the faces on Stonehenge and Mars as real either!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (10:00)", "body": "do you think someone came (as in stonehenge) and carved the faces later?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (15:59)", "body": "Hmh. You know how people are... One of my favorite history tidbits is this graffiti somewhere in Hagia Sophia in Istanbul (then Constantinople), translated into English, it says: \"Halfdan was here.\" Halfdan is a Viking name. Might be Crooked Nose and Too Big Ears walked by Stonehenge, and thought they were funny..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (17:55)", "body": "Almost certainly the faces were carved later and the bronze axeheads on Stonehenge, as well as Halfdan's memento. No one would carve things into the existing fabric of a place of worship which is still in use. Can you imagine someone going into St Paul's Cathedral in London and chipping his name into a pillar? Not likely (but nowadays, who can say...!)"}, {"response": 24, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "On the matter of extra-terrestrial visitors to Earth. Sure, it's possible; but that \"Chariots of the Gods\" bit is a little hokey for me. Still, there is the genuinely intriquing possibility of the religion and folk memory of the Dogon People. How did they know Cirius had a companion star milennia before it was scientifically proven?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (17:13)", "body": "Ah yes...that was covered by Maggie in Travel/Mali as I recall. I should move it to the creation myth topic in Geo, as well! Thanks for bringing it up!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (19:56)", "body": "please go to this website. i about fell out of my chair! http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/catsincorp/HandOfGod.html"}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:01)", "body": "Never knew they occurred in black - but that has chills running all over me!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:05)", "body": "tornadoes? (they look black because it's so light behind them)....that was similar to my cloud experience except for the turning sideways to view it. oh, and there weren't any tornadoes."}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:11)", "body": "I meant the vision...they have always been white or in color, yes? I'm happy you did not have a tornado with yours! I'll bet you nearly fell out of your chair if it was so similar!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:13)", "body": "it was only the profile and it was distinct....this picture almost looks doctored but because i've had a similar experience, i don't doubt it."}, {"response": 31, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:14)", "body": "i'm not sure about the color of apparitions and visions. Jesus' profile was gray for me with bright light behind it..."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:20)", "body": "Wow....!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:21)", "body": "well, it was like sun shining behind the cloud. am so glad dad saw it too."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:24)", "body": "Oooh...like a halo around His head - the \"glory\" ! It is always nice to have eye-witnesses along to confirm that you saw what you thought you saw."}, {"response": 35, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (20:25)", "body": "indeed....there was no doubt about what we were looking at. to make you fall to your knees. praise to Him!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (01:23)", "body": "Glad you told us about it."}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (22:28)", "body": "From Reuters: ....Wednesday that could solve the centuries-old mystery of circles in English cornfields which have aroused speculation of visitors from outer space. Experts filmed two big circles being made during the night amid a barrage of unexplained flashing lights in a field in the southern county of Wiltshire. It was the first known recording of the formation of symmetrical circles that have puzzled Englishmen since the Middle Ages. Theories of what causes them range from earthworms to whirlwinds to spaceships. In medieval times, countryfolk believed they were the work of the Devil. Scientists from Britain, Japan, West Germany and the United States monitored Wiltshire cornfields round the clock this week with thermal imagers and low-light cameras. On Wednesday, they recorded two circles being made, one about 100 metres (330 feet) across, the other half that size, said Colin Andrews, leader of the project coordinated by the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC). Analyzing their recordings hours later, they sent in helicopters to take daylight pictures of the find and said they had made a significant scientific discovery. ''We do have a major event here, very much excitment as you can imagine,'' Andrews said. ''We do have two major ground markings in front of all the surveillance equipment performing absolutely to form,'' he told BBC television. ''We had a situation at approximately 3.30 this morning on monitor -- a number of orange lights taking the approximate form of a triangle and within that triangular form was a second triangle,'' Andrews said. ''We had many lights, following that a whole complex arrangement of lights doing all sorts of funny things. It's a complex situation, we are actually analysing it at this very moment. But there is undoubtedly something here for science.'' Andrews said the circles could not be a hoax. ''We have high-quality equipment here and we have indeed secured on high-quality equipment a major event,'' he said. Asked what caused the circles, Andrews said: ''As you can imagine, this only happened some hours ago. We have experts arriving by the minute here now to analyze this. We do have something of great, great significance.'' Describing the circles, he said: ''One formation is about 100 metres in diameter, a circle with two satellites and two concentric rings, another brother nearby about 50 per cent of the size of its nearby neighbour.'' Andrews said the field had been cordoned off. ''We're doing nothing more now until we have helicopters over the top to film in detail what we have before anybody enters that field.'' The authoritative New Scientist journal published an article last month which said corn circles, more than 300 of which appeared last year, were caused by weather conditions creating whirlwinds and electrical discharges in the atmosphere. Author Terence Meaden said his theory could explain flashing lights seen by eyewitnesses and patterns of flattened corn. =END="}, {"response": 38, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (10:30)", "body": "where can we see the film? this is amazing!!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "Don't know, but I found it on a website I did not expect to find it on...going to check. (It was last night when I was getting into trouble posting in odd places again *grin*)"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (17:26)", "body": "I found it here: http://www.totse.com/files/FA128/circle.htm Beware - there are things on that site not proper for ladies of your sensitivity to be reading....! I stumbled across it, myself...*innocent smile*"}, {"response": 41, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (20:16)", "body": "well, nothing too risque on the page this story is on. perhaps if i click on the right button! *giggle* now tell me, my dear marcia, how you stumbled across something like this on a site something like this wouldn't normally be found on? hmmmmmmmm??? *GRIN*"}, {"response": 42, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (00:07)", "body": "I'm not saying a word - now when i can I find privacy *grin*!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (14:15)", "body": "Well, it came recommended to me from elsewhere. So, I posted it in Cool URLs in the Web conference so we can all be edified equally. No privacy here, Maggie - they find me out every time I post something I feel badly about and need to tell someone or something - like shouting in a wilderness. They find me out eventually... Other Crop Circle URLs which came from more savory sites: http://alpha.mic.dundee.ac.uk/ft/crop_circles/anasazi/connect.html http://artbell.com/circles.html http://alpha.mic.dundee.ac.uk/ft/crop_circles/years.html They will have links to other places and other years."}, {"response": 44, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (22:11)", "body": "*giggle* marcia, you know i'm teasing! would love to find a video on that though. and thanks for the additional posts. this is way cool!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (13:10)", "body": "I think you just need one of those sites and the crop circle web ring appears and you are off on a whole load of interesting dowloading adventures. (yeah...but I wnated to see the video, too...*grin*) paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 23, "subject": "Geomagnetism", "response_count": 204, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (15:20)", "body": "LeyLines, Feng Shui, polarization. Copper bracelets with magnets in them. Please let us discuss the topic from the lunctic fringe to the deadly seiously scademic."}, {"response": 2, "author": "SBRobinson", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (16:52)", "body": "OK, Marcia. I'm here... and i still have no idea what leylines are. educate me please. :)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (17:54)", "body": "Welcome, EsBee. Happy to oblige even though Maggie is the one with them running near her house. Mind you, I deal with scientific and proven stuff usually, but this fascinates me. So, here goes: In the early 1920's Alfred Watkins wrote a book called The Old Straight Track . One day, when he was out riding his horse across the countryside, he paused on a hill. He noticed that the entire landscape was crossed by glowing network of lines standing out like golden wires, intersecting at the sites of churches, old stones and other places of traditional sanctity. History of Ley Hunting The story of how, in the early 20th century, a Hereford miller suddenly realised that all around the countryside ancient sites, monuments, earthworks and other features could be shown to be arranged or placed in alignments, is a fascinating one. It resulted in the development of a view of prehistoric society markedly different to that held previously. The man was a native of Hereford, one Alfred Watkins. Having lived his whole life in the Herefordshire countryside, he knew it and its people intimately, and was interested in the history and folklore of the county, much of it being learnt from the village folk and farmers that he met. He was a leading figure in the local natural history society, the Woolhope Club, and a well-known County Councillor and magistrate. One interest that was put to good use when he came to write up his discovery was photography; Watkins was a pioneer in this field, inventing an exposure meter that was for forty-five years or more universally recognised as the beginner's sure guide to correct exposure. On 30th June 1921, Alfred Watkins was at Blackwardine, and was looking at a map with no particular object in mind when he noticed an alignment that passed over some hilltops and various ancient sites. All of a sudden, there occurred what can only be called a flash of insight or a revelation, and the features that he was so familiar with in the landscape became linked in a whole system. Alien Watkins in a biography of his father describes how his father's mind was \"...flooded with a rush of images forming one coherent plan. The scales fell from his eyes and he saw that over many long years of prehistory, all trackways were in straight lines marked out by experts on a sighting system. The whole plan of the Old Straight Track stood suddenly revealed\". Alfred Watkins later described this plan: Imagine a fairy chain stretched from mountain peak to mountain peak, as far as the eye could reach, and paid out till it touched the high places of the earth at a number of ridges, banks and knowls. Then visualise a mound, circular earthwork, or clump of trees, planted on these high points, and in low points in the valley, other mounds ringed with water to be seen from a distance. Then great standing stones brought to mark the way at intervals, and on a bank leading up to a mountain ridge or down to a ford the track cuts so deep so as to form a guiding notch in the skyline as you come up. In a bwlch or mountain pass the road cut deeply to show as a notch afar off. Here and there, and at two ends of the way, a beaconfire used to lay out the track. With ponds dug on the line, or streams banked up into \"flashes\" to form reflecting points on the beacon track so it might be checked when at least once a year a beacon was fired on the traditional day. All these works exactly on the sighting line..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (18:01)", "body": "They were called \"ley\" (pronounced lee) lines because they passed through so many villages with names ending in \"ley\" indicative only that the Danes had names the place long before. There are also E line around the entire earth: http://www.surreycmc.gov.uk/outreach/roundwld.htm E-line round the world! When plotted on a globe, the E-line goes through the immediate areas of some very significant places. One is Mount Everest, the highest mountain in the world. Its Tibetan name \"Chomolungma\" means \"Goddess mother of the world\". Crossing the equator, the line goes right through the middle of Australia, and seems to go through the location of Ayers Rock. To the local tribes of Australian aborigines, Ayers Rock is a mount of the gods, totally enveloped in legends and myths. Caves, shelters and other minor features of the Rock are associated with memories of cultural heroes of the Dream Time, and sacred rites continually make this time operative in the present. The first and last rays of the sun seem to set the rock on fire with spectacular colour changes, and even for white Australians a trip there takes on the dimension of a pilgrimage. The line continues through the southern tip of South Island, New Zealand, then swings north again to go through the area of the famous Lines of Nazca in Peru. Lines run with bullet-like straightness across the pampa for mile after mile, and can only be appreciated properly from the air. A number of patterns and shapes are among the lines, including birds and spiders."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (23:42)", "body": "Ok all you leyline followers. I'm gonna go hunt you a map so we can all follow them."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (23:54)", "body": "The E-line, which we had been following across Surrey and Kent, goes through the chalk figure of the Giant, near Cerne Abbas when extended westwards. We found the line as wide and powerful as usual, much wider than this line plotted by Eileen on the aerial photograph which appeared in \"The Ley Hunter's Companion\" and \"The Ley Guide\", by Paul Devereux, which represents its centre. Note however that it skirts the Trendle (or Frying Pan) earthwork near the Giant. The real line would take in the whole of the Trendle. The other line is the one found by Paul Devereux."}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (23:56)", "body": "This map shows the Eline and the euy ines they were following in the comments above:"}, {"response": 8, "author": "Moon", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (08:50)", "body": "Fascinating Marcia, thanks! I have just returned from Santiago de Compostela, Spain (where the Apostle St. James is buried). As you know there is the famous pilgrimage from Lourdes to Santiago which pilgrims have been doing since the Crusades. These pilgrims all travel with a scallop shell which they hold towards the Sun when the Sun is at a certain angle and a line appears from the light. It deliniates the Western line that takes them to Santiago. Botticelli knew of this when he painted Venus on the scallop shell. These lines are also the ones that birds follow during their migrations. Homing pigeons have been very useful in times of war because of it as well."}, {"response": 9, "author": "Moon", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (10:48)", "body": "Here is a link with the info.: http://www.iranon.org/jacobeo/en/index.htm"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (11:32)", "body": "Moon, thanks! Indeed, these lines of magnetism do exist. Thanks for pointing out a very old and very verifiable one."}, {"response": 11, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (16:30)", "body": "Mmm thanks for creating this Marcia. The info is fascinating. Apparently most of our (English) really old churches are built on ley lines. There is certainly something going on and I suspect that there is a rational explanation if we but knew."}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (17:33)", "body": "Mayhap we need to learn the knowledge we have forgotten...It is fascinating!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (17:50)", "body": "I know zip about this topic, but here goes: It concerns the magnetic lines and water, lots of water, i.e., the Pacific Ocean, how did the Polynesians and Melanesians ever find those islands in all that watery expanse? Granted New Zealand is pretty big, but some of the islands the settled are literally tiny specks of land. Did they just set out and hoped they hit land before their supplies ran out? Did they follow birds? Or did they somehow discern oceanic ley lines?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (18:10)", "body": "The Vikings used polarizing sunstones to keep them on course. The Polynesians used the Sun in the day and stars by night and during storms tried to keep on course by lashing the rudder in place. They reinact this epic expansion almost yearly. Please check this url http://www.kitv.com/Voyage.html It is graphics intensive and takes a while to download but it tells the story better than I could. Will hunt for more things from the Polynesian Voyaging Society, the parent group of these voyages. Thanks for bringing it up."}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (18:13)", "body": "This link is even better: The Polynesian Voyaging Society has maps and all sorts of good information on the voyage underway even as wel write: http://leahi.kcc.hawaii.edu/org/pvs/"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (21:37)", "body": "this is way cool. do the ley lines cross through easter island as well? oh, and the giant is fascinating. i watched a show about that on discovery. it's amazing how big he really is! and the spiders and such are equally as fascinating. suppose we link this topic with physical phenomenon in paraspring? (and how did you get your globe to show up?)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (22:32)", "body": "The E line does. Gotta post a E line map when I find one. I think we need tolink it but since this is already established, it will create a new one on your conference just as collecting rocks and Jurassic Park did here. My globe on the cover page? I discovered it was in the cfconfig (hit the you are host in this conf to get there). Scroll down till you hit the big empty boxes in which we write commands. I found the /~cfadm file which had the globe in it and since I had downloaded it my own files, I ftp'd it to my /marcia files then went to the web got the location of the globe went back to that box and pasted the new address and deleted the old one. Hit the \"save this file\" or whatever it says..and voila! Need help? I can get into your cfconfig too and help you!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (08:12)", "body": "Now you have me wondering about the Bermuda Triangle and the magnetic force found there. Is it also on one of these lines?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (12:11)", "body": "There are several of these \"triangles\" around the world, and they are, as I recall, considered \"magnetic anomolies.\" Let me to some research and get back to you. Thanks for bringing it up."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (12:41)", "body": "Two of the several theories of the Bermuda Triangle from: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/warminster/167/theori.html Theory #5 - Boom! This is a theory by the US Navy. The investigation centers on the possibility of electro-magnetic gravitational and atmospheric disturbances that might be possible for disintegrating craft. The Lost Patrol reported seeing a large ball of fire in the skies. Could 5 planes collide and then joined by a sixth? The investigation believes that the fireball was could have been created by the impact of the patrol and it's rescue ship with a disintegrating electro-magnetic force. Theory #6 - Magnetic North This is one of the most famous Bermuda Triangle theories. It has basis on the following (high school student)physics: A compass DOES NOT always point to the true north but rather to the magnetic north. This phenomenon is referred to as compass variation. As a sailor or pilots circumnavigates the earth this variation changes, at times as much as 20 degrees. The navigator must always compensate for this error he may find himself far from where he thinks he is. One interesting note (that forms the basis for this theory) is that there are two places that point to the magnetic north: the Bermuda Triangle and the Devil's Sea area. There have been reports of pilots saying that they were confused as to direction. A typical example is the reply from Lt. Charles Taylor on Flight 19 when he was asked by the radio tower as to his position. His reply was \"We are not sure... We seem to be lost..\", then a few minutes later \"We cannot be sure which way is west... everything is wrong... strange... we cannot be sure of any direction.\" Or could this simply be a disorientation in a man's own mind? Hard to say."}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (20:51)", "body": "hmmmm..... (about linking it with physical phenom)"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (20:57)", "body": "Yup, and I cannot do it until I can get in there via telnet (of which they supposedly have allowed Terry one account - but I see 4 logins via telnet) I tried to telnet in from Hawaii on Line and did. But, when I try to login, I get the usual \"login invalid.\" Either we will have to wait for one of them to do it or wait till Terry finds a way to grant me telnet access to do it myself. *sigh*"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (06:16)", "body": "I believe certain points on the Earth have been discovered where in a range of about 200 yards, a compass needle will point south, for reasons that are not clear to the scientists who have tested this. From memory (I read this article years ago) one spot is in the Arizona desert, and five such spots have been claimed in mainland USA. The Bermuda Triangle could have been providing (maybe only temporarily?) a larger form of such a phenomenon, I suppose."}, {"response": 24, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (08:16)", "body": "(Wolf), (about linking it with physical phenom) This topic gets better and better. That is a great idea. I hope you are able to crack that tel net access, Marcia."}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (12:10)", "body": "Mark, you are correct...those magnetic anomolies do it every time. Whenever I flew to Britain over the pole I hung a floating compass from the tray in front of me and watched it wander out of control for 5 hours as we were near the north pole. It must have been very difficult to navigate in the early days. Little wonder the early Norsemen used polarizing stones to set their course. I'll put the anomolies on my \"look up\" list. Moon, it will happen...just have to wait till Terry gets the Telnet accounts figured out or someone has the time to do it."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "Woo Hoo, Wolfie, we are linked by the magic of our personal magician *grin* *Hugs*"}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (15:04)", "body": "this is great!!! thanks magic man!! *hugs*"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (15:32)", "body": "Anne Hale promised to post in here but until she gets around to doing so I shall post some things she sent me about ley lines in UK were she grew up: I shall if you give me the name of the topic post some more stuff on Ley lines - I visited once during my studies of the subject an Iron Age Fort on top of the North Downs near Leith Hill - the highest point in the South of England all of 965feet!! The interest is that 9 parishes met at that point - all finishing in a narrow point and radiating out into the flat lands below. The whole area around my home town is so ancient. Ashtead was a small Roman village with a tile factory, my home town Leatherhead was called Leddrede at one point in time and the historical society there has much to offer - maybe I will check to see if it is on the net. Boxhill of Emma fame too has some very interesting history - a man was buried upside down at the top many, many years ago. The walkway along the White Downs just a mile or two away from Boxhill is certain to contain Ley Lines - or at least that is what we believed when we travelled along it. my stamping ground is Surrey, Hampshire and Sussex and sometimes Kent. Denis' home town Ammanford in Dyfed has some rather scary standing stones - you get the strangest feeling there. I will try to get him to talk on the Ammanford Standing stones - they are in a circle and of course his part of Wales is full of druidical places. They are still Welsh speaking there and sometimes quite fey"}, {"response": 29, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (16:36)", "body": "Marcia, thanks for the Polynesian Voyaging Society links. Navigation by using astronomical bodies, shows a rather high degree of cultural sophistocation. I took an anthropology class which compared and contrasted 3 highly developed pre-literate societies: the Buganda of East Africa, the Tahitians, and the Hawaiians. The class did not touch on navigation though. I'm still curious if magnetism had some play in Polynesian navigation. The Giant must have been a bit of a shock to Victorian tourists. Is there another Giant (Rude Man) in Wiltshire, near the Uffingtion Horse and Stonehenge? Also what is the relationship of ley lines to prehistoric stone constructions,i.e., Stonehenge, Avebury, Carnac (Kerrec) in Brittany, and the strange stone constructs on Malta."}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (16:44)", "body": "Ah, now you are getting to my most favorite subject - Things Megalithic. They Are stone, after all! More on this in a moment... If you scroll down on the Poly Voyaging Soc site you will see the link to the Hawaiian Star chart by which they navigated. It is difficult to use magnetism over that much water. I will check it out, but I think they did not use it. They had NO iron whatever!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (16:49)", "body": "Oh, yes! The Victorians \"modified\" the giant and it was only through modern techniques that the original specifics were re-discovered. However, his 12' (3.65 M) long \"member\" is longer than originally. It now extends to his navel which it did not originally. There are several fake giants (and white horses, as well), but there is a red giant (have to look this one up for you and get back to you - I have dozens of books on these subjects!)now densely overgrown in the woods in mid-England."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (22:00)", "body": "Lest you think all Ley Lines are in every place but USA, check this Seattle, Washington map. A larger map is available http://www.geo.org/qa.htm#tof Has anyone here read about Rennes-le-Chateau? Want to discuss that, as well?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (22:14)", "body": "From http://www.geo.org/dowse1.htm#4 Primary water is a totally below-ground hydrological cycle and therefore is not affected by drought. Primary water is found at most ancient monuments and temples. Usually, there is a water dome or even a well or a spring at the center of the monument. A water spring, the place where water is available for use from the surface, is a natural spot for building a sacred place. By marking the site, or distinguishing it from other places, the monument becomes \"holy ground.\" The close relationship of water lines and springs with ancient monuments was established by M. Louis Merle and Reginald Allender Smith in the 1930s. Both these men were dowsers, or diviners of water; they could locate underground streams and springs without using scientific instruments. Merle established that ancient monuments were situated over the crossing of underground streams. Smith went further to say that springs are constantly present at the centers of stone circles and earthworks. This discovery indicated that the selection of sites for ancient monuments was not arbitrary, but a conscious decision based upon the presence of underground water."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (23:11)", "body": "How about sacred geometry...?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (13:31)", "body": "Lest you think all Ley Lines are in every place but USA, check this Seattle, Now, that might explain the the phenomena known as Bill Gates. ;-) This discovery indicated that the selection of sites for ancient monuments was not arbitrary, but a conscious decision based upon the presence of underground water. That is exactly what happened in Bath, when the Romans settled there, they chose it because of the hot springs. The Giant is on the smaller road on the way back to London from Bath which we did and I can tell you it is an amazing site to behold. Has anyone here read about Rennes-le-Chateau? It rings a bell, Marcia, please tell us more. :-D"}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (14:12)", "body": "Aloha Moon...thanks for your comments. I knew there was a good explanation of the phenomenon of Bill Gates. *lol* You are right about Bath (the origin of that \"Saturday night ritual\" in so many cowboy movies). In the Spring, there are still well-dressing festivities all over Britain, all of which have some ritual significance. Some really popular ones have been Christianized (as has everything else at Glastronbury.) Rennes-le-Chateau starred prominently in the book Holy Blood Holy Grail and deals with the Merovingian dynasty in France, the Knights Templar and ultimately with one-world government. The best part of it deals with sacred geometry and ancient things in the landscape along with the best history of early France I have ever read. The book's conclusions are odd at best, but it was intriguing enough that I bought its successor and a third by one of the same authors!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "livamago", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (19:43)", "body": "Congratulations, my dear! This is a great topic, and you are a vast source of knowledge, as usual."}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (19:54)", "body": "Thank you, and *hugs* for saying so. I always welcome a fellow adventurer into the ancient and esoteric. Please stick around and post."}, {"response": 39, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (14:49)", "body": "I come here to be informed. As I said I know zip about this subject. Okay, I do know a little, thanks to those posting here. Please let me clarify on the subjects of the Polynesians and magnetism, I thought it might have something to do with birds. Since birds go on massive migrations using magnetic fields, among other things to guide them. That's the theory anyway. But you're right Marcia, it's pretty tough to use magnetism if you have no iron and there's that much water. Wasn't Bath a holy place to the Celtic inhabitants of Britain before the Romans arrived? They are the hottest springs in Europe. Was Aquae Sulis the Roman name for Bath? Please let us know what you uncover on the Red Giant."}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (15:31)", "body": "Polynesian Navigation is ongoing as we speak as the Hokule'a sails for Hilo on the return voyage. Check it out at the Polynesian Vpoyaging Society website. Nearing Islands the Hawaiians used birds for homing in on the terra firma. That and clouds forming over mountain peaks and glows from eruptions. Any water source in Europe has been revered from time immemorial. In fact, the source of the Seine was a much visited shrine of pilgrimage. Thermal springs were more revered - especially if they were the healing sort. Bath under various names was revered way back into pre-history. Chartre Cathedral was built on a \"pagan\" shrine so popular to the mother goddess that the only way to stop them coming to visit it was to put the cathedral to a new god over it. Of course, during a later synod, they incorporated the mother goddess concept into Christianity as the Virgin Mary. (Don't flame my posts - look it up. It was NOT my doing!) Have discovered the red giant. Everyone knows of the Uffington White Horse...the oldest extant hill figure in Britain. There was supposed to be a lost red horse near Tysoe near Banbury, Warwickshire. Whilst hunting for the horse, S. G. Wildman discovered not a horse, but a whole collection of other figures - what appeared to be a human figure 160'(47 M) in height wielding a whip or rope; a bird with its head pointing upward; behind them was an unidentifiable animal. Below them all was the figure of another animal perhaps 300' (51.44 M) long. They were never excavated, but on contemporary pictures, others were able to discern them from oblique angles. (from \"Mysterious Britain\" by J&C Bord)"}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (15:33)", "body": "Oh, and you are correct about Aquae Sulis being the Roman name for Bath. Translated, it is water of the Silures, a powerful Keltic tribe in the area."}, {"response": 42, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (15:34)", "body": "Chartres was very much an important site to the goddess. Interestingly, until well into the 19th century the moon was referred to as \"Notre Dame\" in very rural parts of France."}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (15:40)", "body": "Very interesting! (...and how did that 's' get left off of my Chartres?!) Underneath this civilized and regimented modern facade we wear are the real roots of our knowledge of the earth and what made it special and how to be in tune with it. I hope we can tune in again before all signs and lore are gone and forgotten. However, I hasten to add that the book I cited is of what the Archaeology establishment considers \"Lunatic Fringe\" and a lot of things they espouse is a bit \"out there.\""}, {"response": 44, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (15:46)", "body": "I posted this in my Mali topic and Marcia has asked for it to be posted here as well. Comments? Dogon Theory of Creation The Dogon people are an indigeous tribe who occupy a region in Mali, south of the Sahara Desert in Africa. They live in the Homburi Mountains near Timbuktu. They are believed to be of Egyptian descent. After living in Libya for a time, they settled in Mali, West Africa, bringing with them astronomy legends dating from before 3200 BCE. In the late 1940s, four of their priests told two French anthropologists of a secret Dogon myths about the star Sirius (8.6 light years from the earth). The priests said that Sirius had a companion star that was invisible to the human eye. They also stated that the star moved in a 50-year elliptical orbit around Sirius, that it was small and incredibly heavy, and that it rotated on its axis. Sirius - which we now call Sirius A - was not seen through a telescope until 1862 and was not photographed until 1970. The Dogon name for Sirius B (Po Tolo) consists of the word for star (tolo) and \"po,\" the name of the smallest seed known to them. By this name they describe the star's smallness -- it is, they say, \"the smallest thing there is.\" They also claim that it is \"the heaviest star,\" and white. The Dogon thus attribute to Sirius B its three principle properties as a white dwarf: small, heavy, white. They go on to say that it has an is elliptical orbit, with Sirius A at one foci of the ellipse (as it is), that the orbital period is 50 years (the actual figure is 50.04 +/- 0.09 years), and that the star rotates on its own axis (it does). The Dogon also describe a third star in the Sirius system, called \"Emme Ya\" (\"Sorghum Female\"). In orbit around this star, they say, is a single satellite. To date, Emme Ya has not been identified by astronomers. In addition to their knowledge of Sirius B, the Dogon mythology includes Saturn's rings, and Jupiter's four major moons. They have four calendars, for the Sun, Moon, Sirius, and Venus, and have long known that planets orbit the sun. The Dogon say their astronomical knowledge was given to them by the Nommos, amphibious beings sent to Earth from Sirius for the benefit of mankind. The name comes from a Dogon word meaning \"to make one drink,\" and the Nommos are also called Masters of the Water, the Monitors, and the Teachers. Nommos The Dogon tells the legend of the Nommos, awful-looking beings who arrived in a vessel along with fire and thunder. After they arrived here - they put out a reservoir of water onto the Earth then dove into the water. There are references in the oral traditions, drawings and cuneiform tablets of the Dogons, to human looking beings who have feet but who are portrayed as having a large fish skin running down their bodies. The Nommos were more fishlike than human, and had to live in water. They were saviors and spiritual guardians: \"The Nommo divided his body among men to feed them; that is why it is also said that as the universe \"had drunk of his body,\" the Nommo also made men drink. He gave all his life principles to human beings.\" The Nommo was crucified and resurrected and in the future will again visit the Earth, this time in human form. Later he will assume his amphibious form and will rule the world from the waters. Dogon mythology is known only by a number of their priests, and is a complex system of knowledge. Such carefully guarded secrets would not be divulged to friendly strangers very easily. If the star Emme Ya is eventually discovered in the Sirius system, this would give considerably weight to the Dogon's story. The Nommos, who could live on land but dwelled mostly in the sea, were part fish, like merfolk (mermaids and mermen). Similar creatures have been noted in other ancient civilizations -- Babylonia's Oannes, Acadia's Ea, Sumer's Enki, and Egypt's goddess Isis. It was from the Nommos that the Dogon claimed their knowledge of the heavens. The Dogon also claimed that a third star (Emme Ya) existed in the Sirius system. Larger and lighter than Sirius B, this star revolved around Sirius as well. And around it orbited a planet from which the Nommos came. (Sirius A)."}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 20, 2000 (15:55)", "body": "Thanks Maggie! I appreciate that. Shoulda named this topic \"Earth Mysteries\" but I think we can cover that under the more scholarly guise, anyway. Good stuff we have going in here!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (11:51)", "body": "(Cheryl), I thought it might have something to do with birds. Since birds go onmassive migrations using magnetic fields, among other things to guide them. That's the theory anyway. But you're right Marcia, it's pretty tough to use magnetism if you have no iron and there's that much water. It is the knowledge of generations that resonate in birds. I suggest reading Rupert Sheldrake. His New Science of Life and The Rebirth of Nature. For the explanations. (Maggie), The Nommo was crucified and resurrected and in the future will again visit the Earth, this time in human form. And was he in Israel at the time? Very interesting, Maggie, thanks for posting it here. :-) They go on to say that it has an is elliptical orbit, with Sirius A at one foci of the ellipse (as it is), that the orbital period is 50 years (the actual figure is 50.04 0.09 years), The Catholic Church has special celebrations for the reconciliation ritual every 50 years too, the year 2000 is one of them. I wonder if there is a connection. The is a private library at the Vatican which is supposed to have the texts to so many mysteries. I would love to see these books."}, {"response": 47, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (12:08)", "body": "Moon, if you ever get into that library, count on my being right behind you in felt slippers so we are not overheard. That Vatican also has the largest collection of Pronography, I understand. Fascinating!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (19:58)", "body": "this is really interesting!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (21:01)", "body": "Wolfie - go check what I just posted in Geo 17. Archaeology. Stone circles. This is where these two topics intersect. Thanks for being interested. It is a cool topic and goes as well with your Paraspring conference as here, don't you think?!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (17:13)", "body": "The merfolk or amphipious beings are noted in several belief systems and folklore, but so are winged beings, what many people consider angels."}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (18:34)", "body": "Then there are the dragons/worms which inhabited so much of Europe. Somewhere lost in the dim past is the truth back of this lore. And, it is another of my passions."}, {"response": 52, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (18:48)", "body": "That would bring up another subject: metamorphs. Basically it's the werewolf myth, which is pretty much universal in some form or other. It's not always wolves people turn into, depending on the culture in can be bears, foxes, leopards, jaquars, or even coyotes. Interesting that the animals involved are predators. Okay, bears are omnivores and coyotes will scavenge if they have to."}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (19:08)", "body": "This is where the linked-to-paraspring comes in. Wolf, are you listening? I believe she has werewolves on her conference: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/paraspring/7/new I think we're gonna overlap a bunch but that is good...each conference seems to reach different readers. About those morphs, is that how totem animals arose? I am fascinated and know just about nothing about them. Does it involve Shamanism?"}, {"response": 54, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (19:33)", "body": "don't totem poles depict territories and families? we can link the morphism to indians and their animal spirits. without getting high, i'd like to know how to find out what animal my spirit favors. it would be interesting and insightful."}, {"response": 55, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (19:41)", "body": "Hawaiians were really big on household or family gods. These were often shark or turtle or porpoise. Wolf, you are either lupine or delphine connected, it would seem. I seem to be connected to hard stony objects *grin*"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (19:53)", "body": "This part of the esoterica in which I am a novice. Please educate!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (01:57)", "body": "This also links to 'universal stories', in the sense of repeating themes in oral literature. I suppose that corresponds with myths and legends, but I tend to look at them from a linguistic point of view."}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (10:50)", "body": "I study them for the knowledge behind them and that takes me into linguistics to find out exactly the words used early on before the meaning got lost in vernacular. It is difficult in the utmost to find these early forms, however. What choice goodies have you discovered?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (13:01)", "body": "Mine are collected Mandinka stories. Will Start again in Mali. I have one good one somewhere if I can find it."}, {"response": 60, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (17:12)", "body": "ok, to the person responsible for making this place look spiffy, HUGS thank you thank you thank you and i love the new lines!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (17:29)", "body": "I was just going to compliment you on them. Hmmm...there is something about you I just am lacking. Topics on your conference - none on mine...Perhaps I do not yet deserve them. *sniffle* (For those wondering where the bars are, they are on Paraspring conference to which this is linked.)"}, {"response": 62, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (19:41)", "body": "? you lost me, sweetie!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (21:09)", "body": "Nah! I was just being a spoiled child (did not get the chance as a little kid). I was just noticing who created your topics and who created mine. *sigh* I seem to be the lone stranger in Geo whereas you had the master creating in yours...(see, told ya! spoiled child...now I'm gonna behave...) *hugs*"}, {"response": 64, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 24, 2000 (11:48)", "body": "oh! is that all? *grin* k, they had a show last night on the travel channel (because of miracles like satellite tv, i was unable to watch the grammy's as originally planned) about the giant, the spider, the hummingbird, and did you know about the alien man waving to the sky? there were two shows, one was about the rocks and how they were built. pyramids, the rows and rows of pillars all facing the same direction, etc. very very neat. even heiroglyphics contained people in small capsules like they were flying. way cool. unfortunately, i was way too preoccupied with a craft project to pay complete attention so i hope they show it again."}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 24, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "Oh, Wolfie, we got stuff time-delayed through the miracle of modern technology so you had to live in a vacuum not to know who wom before it even started...so I spent the evening with Geo and interesting people. (Yup! that's all - mostly...feeling wiser and a little foolish this morning *grin*) I did not see the program you mention last night, but it sounds suspiciously like some I have seen produced by sensationalists. One giveaway is the people they use for experts. Graham Hancock is great for casual reading, but he is no scientific and objective archaeologist who reports only certainties and not conjectures. I watched part of one I had seen before about the Mayan sarcophagus with the \"space man\" on the lid. That was on last night and I turned it off and came back to the monitor. *sigh* Btw, I have three books by Hancock and they are fascinating. But, know the facts before you start reading."}, {"response": 66, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Thu, Feb 24, 2000 (17:17)", "body": "My last comment about metamorphs on this board. I would like to apologize to all those of Irish and or Scottish ancestry, and to my own Scotch-Irish forebearers. (I am from central PA, where almost everybody as some German and Scotch-Irish blood.) I didn't mention selkies or horse fairies. The Selkie were the seal people, they came ashore doffed there sealskins and became people. A really charming film dealing with this legend is \"The Secret of Roan Inish\". The horse fairies were horses and ponies that could become human. So not all the animals were predators. Seals are predatory if you're a fish, but horses are herbavores. Now back to geomagnetism."}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 24, 2000 (18:34)", "body": "Piskies (yes, spelled right) are Cornish fairies. Just before they disappear altogether from human view they look like ants. it is Not a good idea to step on ants in Cornwall! (I am English/Scots-Irish/German. Join the crowd!) Geomagnetism is all about other worldly stuff...after all, ley lines follow them, no?! And, where is the interface between the real world we see and the unseen world? It is very close to the surface in the Avalon/Glastonbury area...! Cheryl, you were right at home here with your post. *smile*"}, {"response": 68, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 24, 2000 (21:59)", "body": "Geomagnetism and why it is a Good Thing: Radiation from the sun is deadly stuff to living things and to communications (with which I am getting this information to you). Solar wind is deflected by the Earth's magnetism thusly:"}, {"response": 69, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (09:02)", "body": "Solar wind is deflected by the Earth's magnetism thusly: What about the Ozone layer. Does it not help deflect the radiation from the Sun? Might it also have a magnetic field? In Ireland I always felt as if I were being watched by fairies, crazy but true. You could almost hear them wisper in the wind."}, {"response": 70, "author": "vibrown", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (10:55)", "body": "Nice graphic! But the electro-magnetic field of earth doesn't deflect all the particles from the solar wind; if it did we'd never see auroras, right? Interesting...I've never heard about the fairie legends before (other than Morgan Le Fey). Never heard of leylines before this topic, for that matter. What things I learn from this conference... :-)"}, {"response": 71, "author": "vibrown", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (11:15)", "body": "re: back a few posts Marcia mentioned Rennes-le-Chateau and the book \"Holy Blood Holy Grail\". I think I saw a program about this back when I had cable TV (must have been The Learning Channel or Discovery). It involved some theory about the descendants of Christ and the Knights Templars, but I don't remember the details. I do remember thinking it was very odd, and a bit \"out there\", but I am interested in hearing more about it. Can anyone post any info about this, or some good urls?"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (11:36)", "body": ""}, {"response": 73, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (12:00)", "body": "Geomagnetism: Better sources than I on this subject: http://sec.gsfc.nasa.gov/ http://ub.nmh.ac.uk/ http://geomag.usgs.gov/ Another image for you to ponder: Rennes-le-Chateau: more in next post... If you do a web search you will find oodles of off-the-wall stuff...just like the book. But, it is a fascinating read."}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (12:01)", "body": "Let's try that image again..."}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (12:37)", "body": "Rennes-le-Chateau: The best overview of Holy Blood Holy Grail is found at http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/metis.htm Her website contains Steve Mizrach's discussion of the book, which is the best on the net. This URl is also part of the Rennes-le-Chateau webring. To me, the most fascinating stuff is not the Merovingian claim to have the blood of Jesus in their veins (thus divine) but the sacred geometry of the entire place and the connection with Poussin's Tomb at Arques painting The Shepherds of Arcadia"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (12:39)", "body": "Oh yes, which brings us full circle because the Merovingians are part of the One world government of which the latter-day Knights Templar (only the best and brightest, not the rank and file...)and the Trilateralists are also part. Read that website and you will be amazed (forget the bogus religious stuff - that is ridiculous in any case!)"}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (13:08)", "body": "Today's Geomagnetism report from ARRL ( American Radio Relay League) To give you some idea of what is happening out there right now... Solar flux and sunspot activity were down last week, but heading back up. Average solar flux for last week compared to the previous week was down almost 4 points, and sunspot numbers were off about 28 points. The low point was Friday, February 18, when the three solar flux measurements for the day were 139.6, 141.1 and 140.4. The noon measurement of 141.1 is the official reading for the day. Solar flux is expected to rise, with the projection for Friday through Tuesday of 197, 197, 200, 200 and 204. Solar flux for the near term is expected to peak around 205 on Wednesday or Thursday, March 1 and 2, then decline to below 170 by March 9, and bottom out near 130 around March 23 or 24. Planetary A index has been rising, due to a well-placed coronal hole streaming charged particles toward the earth. NASA has an interesting article about this as well as a dramatic photo online at http://www.spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast23feb_2.htm . Also check http://www.spaceweather.com , which on Thursday had an article about a gust of solar wind at 1430z on February 24. The projected planetary A index for Friday through Tuesday is 20, 18, 15, 13 and 10. Conditions may be disturbed again around March 4 and 5, and fairly quiet between March 13-20. Based on the current solar rotation, disturbed conditions may recur around March 22-23, and possibly quiet conditions again around March 26-29, although predictions that far in the future are more of a guess. These projections are based upon sunspots and coronal holes moving across the visible solar surface, as the sun rotates relative to earth every 27.5 days. Various features grow and fade with time, and new areas appear. Some are oriented toward earth and have a large effect, while others do not. The coronal hole that is causing the current geomagnetic disturbance has been visible for the last seven solar rotations. Doug Brandon, N6RT wrote to ask about the URL for Cary Oler's Solar Terrestrial Dispatch web site, which seemed to disappear some time back. Doug did some detective work, and found that it had moved. The new site is at http://solar.spacew.com/ . George Jacobs, W3ASK has an interesting item in his propagation column in the March issue of CQ Magazine concerning equinoctial propagation. This is about the effect that occurs in spring and fall seasons when the daylight distributed between the northern and southern hemisphere is roughly equal, dependent on how close the date is to the equinox. He says that during March intercontinental openings on 160-30 meters should peak just before local sunrise and again at local sunset. 20 meter openings should peak an hour or two after sunrise and again for an hour or so after sunset. 17-6 meter intercontinental openings should peak during daylight hours. Signals on these upper bands are stronger toward the west around and after sunset, while toward the east they are stronger before noon. He notes that signals to the south are stronger after sunrise and again late in the afternoon. W3ASK has a web site at http://www.gjainc.com/ . Sunspot numbers for February 17 through 23 were 152, 146, 126, 131, 122, 129 and 155 with a mean of 137.3. 10.7 cm flux was 168.4 141.1, 144.8, 153.3, 152.1, 172.3 and 185.1, with a mean of 159.6, and estimated planetary A indices were 6, 2, 4, 5, 15, 5 and 9, with a mean of 6.6."}, {"response": 78, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (19:08)", "body": "last night, i watched a program about the pharoahs (and queen turned king) of egypt. it seems ramses (sp?) was the unnamed pharoah during the mass exodus of the israelites from egypt. he went one on one with God. it was equally as fascinating to learn of the \"acting\" ruler of egypt in place for her stepson who, by mutual agreement, took the throne and ceremonially called herself king and wore the pharoah's clothing and a beard. she accomplished many things that the male pharoahs could not or would not. after her stepson became pharaoh (upon her death) he decided that she should not be remembered and there was evidence of her name being removed from monuments. funny, she left a message that future generations would know she ruled egypt even though the people of egypt would try to eradicate her memory. i was totally fascinated with the whole thing. would love to visit egypt and see these things for myself."}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (22:42)", "body": "I watched that,as well. Most fascinating about the palace intrigues and the intricate marriages arranged with next of kin. They were not subtle aobut removing all traces of Hatshepsut from the heiroglyphs."}, {"response": 80, "author": "laughingsky", "date": "Sat, Feb 26, 2000 (10:04)", "body": "I had seen a similar story about that, a while back. Truly fascinating! Fortunatly for us, not everything about her was destroyed. Seems there is always some forgotten wall, pillar, etc. that reveals another wonderful and mysterious story!"}, {"response": 81, "author": "patas", "date": "Sat, Feb 26, 2000 (14:42)", "body": "I agree that Hatshepsut is one of the most fascinating pharaohs. Her tomb is magnificent too (I want to see it sometime)."}, {"response": 82, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 26, 2000 (21:02)", "body": "(me too...but perhaps in another life when I come back as an Archaeologist...)"}, {"response": 83, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (18:21)", "body": "Meanwhile...back at the possible ley-lines, please note the following map (also posted in Archaeology). Each little red dot is a stone circle or alignment"}, {"response": 84, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (18:22)", "body": "That is a clickable map from one of the best resources online for things megalithic: http://www.megalith.ukf.net/bigmap.htm"}, {"response": 85, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (09:07)", "body": "kewl!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (10:49)", "body": "It really is! Has anyone ever figured how to post a clickable map to another website. That would be REALLY Kewl!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (11:34)", "body": "Hokule'a crew returns home tired but happy By Leila Fujimori A tired but happy Nainoa Thompson says it was a very special day. After an eight-month voyage to Rapa Nui and back, Hokule\ufffda is home. Shanell Ching, navigator for the final leg of the journey, said, \"It's an honor and a privilege to bring the Hokule\ufffda home.\" The 32-year-old navigated the Polynesian sailing canoe, using only traditional methods, from Tahiti to Hawaii in a record 21 days. Hokule\ufffda sailed into Kaunakakai Harbor tonight receiving a welcome of hula, chants and leis from Molokai residents, as well as crew members' friends and family. The 15 crew members first caught sight of landfall about 7:20 p.m. yesterday, when they spotted the lights of Hilo. The voyage to Rapa Nui signifies reaching the final and easternmost point in the Polynesian Triangle -- the migration routes of ancient Polynesian navigators. On Oct. 8, Hokule\ufffda arrived at Rapa Nui, or Easter Island, the most isolated and remote Polynesian island. Hokule\ufffda will depart Molokai for Oahu on March 11, in time for a homecoming celebration at Kualoa Park. The event will also mark the 25th anniversary of its launching. The formal morning program will be followed by entertainment, educational activities, food and other programs from noon to 5 p.m. Ching said exceptional conditions allowed the Hokule\ufffda to quickly sail through the doldrums, a region known for dead calms and light breezes. At times, however, Ching was challenged by rain swells and overcast skies that obscured the stars and other celestial bodies used in navigation."}, {"response": 88, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (11:38)", "body": "One of my freinds has a son on the crew of the Hokule'a. She said the only modern convenience they had was a radio-phone. No watches, no calendars, nothing modern. When they called home they were forbidden to ask the day or time or anything else which the ancient Polynesians would not have known. They really DID do it the Old-Fashioned way...very old!"}, {"response": 89, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (15:43)", "body": "Yes, it was a wonderful ocean voyage, although it did the virtual way. Thanks for the URL Marcia."}, {"response": 90, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (15:48)", "body": "oh, the Hokule`a is a ship! i was wondering there for a minute!! the only way to copy a clickable map is to do a \"view source\" and copy all the links over with it (i guess!)......"}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (16:34)", "body": "Yeah...then you duplicate someone else's website. That is a little too cheeky for even me to attempt - but I am sure you are right. I'll just use the URL and go there to do my clicking. I am just happy they put it on a transparent background. It does look lovely! Glad you enjoyed the virtual voyage. I'll let you know when the next one goes!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "vibrown", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (00:19)", "body": "Sounds kind of like the Kon-Tiki and Ra expeditions of Thor Heyerdahl. Hard to imagine anyone crossing the open ocean in a balsawood raft, and surviving! I started looking at that Rennes-le-Chateau website you posted, Marcia. It sure sounds like the stuff I heard about on that TV show I saw a while back. That show did talk about some weird geometry and a painting. I assume it was the painting you mentioned. *Weird* stuff, but I haven't had time to read much of it, yet... Did you say there is a modern day Knights Templars organization? Do they have any real ties to the historic Templars? How do the Rosicrucians relate to them? They always seemed like a pretty bizarre group, too."}, {"response": 93, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (10:11)", "body": "The modern-day Knights Templar are part of the Freemasons of today. I think there is no connection with Rosecrutions - at least when my father was a Mason. Illuminati and the like are also suggested as connected in some way. Of this I know nothing other than what I have read by the disgruntled and the guessers. Of course, when asked, any Freemason would categorically deny any association. but that may or may not be true, as well!"}, {"response": 94, "author": "vibrown", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (10:43)", "body": "My father was also a Mason, but naturally he wouldn't tell me any of their secrets. Seems like another odd group, from the open ceremonies I was allowed to attend. My brother was also a Mason for a while, but he hated it and let his membership lapse."}, {"response": 95, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (11:06)", "body": "Until the 60'd happened and turned the world upside down, Masonic attachment was a form of prestige. I do not know if anything internal happened to them, but Kings and Presidents were all Masons. If you were a shaker or mover, it was expected of you. My father was not a joiner, but this one he took to heart and became a 33rd degress Master Mason eventually - about as high as you can go."}, {"response": 96, "author": "vibrown", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (11:20)", "body": "My brother felt the Masons were bigots and racists...maybe it was just the lodge he joined, but he felt it was part of the actual wording of the ceremonies. I got the impressions that the Masons were once a \"blue blood\" sort of organization...had to be of a certain social standing, etc., to join."}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (11:35)", "body": "Oh, indeed...one had to have proven himself a man of worth usually self-made men were most admired, but inherited status was also good (as in Kings). They are elitist, but not necessarily snobs. Shriners do a tremendous amount of good works but that branch did not appeal to my serious-minded father. All you have to be is free and accepted and believe in God. Blacks and Jews and all others that I know of were welcome. Perhaps it has changed and people are reading things into the wording of the degrees and ceremonies which meant different things in another era. I truly do not know since my father was tight-lipped about all thing Masonic."}, {"response": 98, "author": "vibrown", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (12:26)", "body": "Hmm...maybe it was just the interpretations by the lodge my brother joined, then."}, {"response": 99, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (12:29)", "body": "It is entirely possible. When my Dad retired from New Rochelle, NY and eventually settled in Tucson, Arizona, he did not care for the chapter there so did not transfer his membership He remained a member in good standing and had a Masonic funeral."}, {"response": 100, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "they're probably sworn to secrecy. another lady i work with has a masonic ring for her wedding ring. i had heard that those organizations are dark when you get into the stuff they keep hidden. the good works are only surface stuff. don't know, really, never had any associations with them. the kids love the shriners because of their cute cars. that and helping crippled children is all i can associate shriners with. how did we get on this subject? *grin*"}, {"response": 101, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (15:28)", "body": "Sacred geometry and \"Holy Blood Holy Grail\" discussion. This is the topic in Geo and Paraspring where we let it hang out and see what sort of things come to surface. Yup! Masons are sworn to secrecy...but I am sure my father would have exited immediately from any organization which worshipped the dark side or even pretended. Either some chapters have gone off on their own or others are reporting erroneous information - or both!"}, {"response": 102, "author": "ommin", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (23:28)", "body": "You have left out Surrey - in your showing of Stone Circles etc. One thing we do have is circles of ancient trees - one of which is near Polesden Lacey and is on the way to Boxhill. There definitly ley lines in Surrey - one on St. Martha's Hill a very strange place - have often picnicked there - you can actually see the ley line it is extremely magnetic and has a strange feel around it. These cirles of ancient trees - Yew most of them are also strange and much used in Witchcraft. In Bookham there is a very ancient common - woods where witchcraft is still practiced. When Heather my friend and I were searching for Ley lines we came across the circle used by them. My dog who was with us behaved in a peculiar manner, but it was he who found it. Of course they would be fully aware of the ancient ley lines and use them."}, {"response": 103, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (23:36)", "body": "Anne! How we have needed you here. Bless your new motherboard! Thanks for this posting. More!!! I did not know about the rings of trees and other wondrous things in Surrey. You have actually searched for Ley lines?! Hey, Gang! We have a real expert now! Thank you more than I can say!"}, {"response": 104, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Wed, Mar  1, 2000 (07:04)", "body": "Leith Hill did get a mention earlier with its nine parish boundaries intersecting and the tower that ensured a viewpoint over 1,000ft high in South-East England. There is also a pond near Boxhill traditionally believed to be bottomless. Surrey is my original stamping-ground too, though I am not a big believer in ley-lines. Also I do not see why dogs would be susceptible to geo-magnetism; is the theory that humans would be, but have shut it out? An excellent walk on the Surrey/Sussex border once took us through whole groves of ancient yews (the spookiest things you ever saw) up to the Devil's Stepping Stones, a series of tumuli running along a ridge of the South Downs."}, {"response": 105, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  1, 2000 (10:37)", "body": "*Sigh* I wish I could have tagged along on any of these hikes. Boxhill is famous in ley-hunters books. Perhaps it is time to mention the types of barrows found in that part of England. Anyone who has visited the area know exactly where Frodo was in Lord of the Rings when they were trying to evade the evils coming from the barrows (don't want to give anything away here for someone else who might like to read the books.) But, that is a topic for Archaeology (Geo 17)"}, {"response": 106, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar  1, 2000 (12:16)", "body": "mark, what you said is exactly right on. animals are very suseptible to the \"other worldly\" matters. dogs can hear their owners' vehicles up to 4 miles away! so, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they can detect strong magnetism in certain spots. we (the human animal) are so afraid to venture out into the unknown (the survival instinct) and question everything we cannot see or touch. it's amazing that we believe in aliens but question the existance of God! not trying to preach at all. love tolkein. my dad has every book that man has written plus the books with his maps and everything. ring of trees is interesting. could they have been used as territorial markers the way farmers lined their fields? and when we're talking witches, do we mean wiccan or sorcerers?"}, {"response": 107, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  1, 2000 (13:06)", "body": "More on the insult to Stonehenge plus some fascinating material which goes along with the ley line theme: http://www.mistral.co.uk/hammerwood/earthwav.htm Buildings and landscapes, temples, Mother of all - Earth, the physics of invisible and immortal by David Pinnegar BSC ARCS URGENT SOS: THE TIMES NEWSPAPER REPORTS THAT STONEHENGE IS IN DANGER An old man once asked what was the difference between someone from the town and someone from the countryside. \"The town man\", he said, \"is clever. The country man is wise\". Town men might laugh at the bee-keeper talking to his bees or the seedsman talking to his plants and tell them that they are mad. When a swarm of wild bees in the walls of Hammerwood heard a bee-keeper proposing to kill them for fear of the spread of disease, the bees heard him and felt my fear for them! Within two hours they had fled elsewhere. Increasingly that which was unimaginable is now understandable. What would the medieval peasant have thought about that biblical story of Adam being put to sleep, cut open, the extraction of a rib and his being sewn back together, alive? In the past, life was simple - it was all a matter of belief. As we ate of the tree of knowledge, life became less clear. With imperfect knowledge Darwinists told us that we evolved from a primeval sea of life and they disrupted the faith of many. Yet scientific understanding of the DNA mechanism may yet confirm conclusively our old beliefs. If life ever evolved from chaos, the ancient myths suggest that it did so in another creation. What was light long ago has faded into darkness. Imperfect knowledge plunges us into a sea of uncertainty but in the deeper knowledge of science we rediscover the beauty of creation. The job common to artists, priests and scientists is to make that which was invisible visible. The task of the museum curator is to preserve the source materials. Astrology should by reason have no connexion with fact or science. It's apparent former connotations with spiritualists and the occult justified its treatment with the ultimate of caution and scepticism. The availability of modern computer software, however, has transformed the treatment of the subject from a dubious art to a calculated mechanism. Upon acquiring such an \"instant astrologer\" program over the recent year, purely for fun, my perception of the subject has been transformed. The results, based upon accurate information relating to the subject's time and place of birth, can often give a most remarkable insight into the characteristics of the person concerned. Their strengths and weaknesses, when revealed can be of positive benefit to them. Large commercial organisations take astrology as seriously as graphology in parallel with CVs in assessing prospective candidates for jobs. So why should it work? What connexion can there be between our destiny cast at the time of our birth and the planets and stars? The idea that gravity is involved is not new: The moon and planets all exert their gravitational forces and this has a visible effect on the tides. The connexion with the perception of water in our bodies is then derived. Epidemiologists take the subject seriously. But the effect is more than the simple alteration of water levels: each planet and astral constellation appears to exert differing characteristics which affect our behaviour. (People's behaviour, as well as the weather, is currently being influenced by a massive heavenly body which is travelling through the solar system. The effect is almost as a perpetual full moon!) We are controlled by thought and, if the results of astrology are testimony to the effect, there is an apparent communication in the control of our thought at the moment we are born. Astrology thus provides an idea that there is some influence of the heavenly bodies upon our thoughts by reason of a gravitational communication, some sort of telepathy. Matthew 17:20 If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? At risk of ridicule, an American hypnotherapist, Dolores Cannon records in her book \"Keepers of the Garden\" an account of a patient who under regression was, if you like, under the delusion that he was an extra-terrestrial upon another planet. Hiroshima sent waves to \"them up there\" and, he says, \"they\" are worried by us. Before quantum physics, conventionalists who had heard of relativity would have said it was impossible - nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. According to Cannon's patient \"them up there\" know what we are thinking: the pyramids and the Washington Monument are the earth's telepathic transmitters! Such a concept may not be as ridiculous as it seems: if telepathic waves are gravitational,"}, {"response": 108, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Mar  1, 2000 (13:13)", "body": "(Have just finished listening to the BBC radio dramatised version of Lord of the Rings on a set of cassettes. Enthralling if you like that sort of thing. Well, we enjoyed it anyway.) Hadn't thought of Box hill in that connection. We went there for school trips."}, {"response": 109, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (02:07)", "body": "The stone circles of The Gambia Although West Africa has no monuments comparable to the Pyramids and Temples of Ancient Egypt or the ruins of Zimbabwe, it has in the stone circles of the Senegal and the Gambia impressive remains that have puzzled the few travellers who have examined them. Stone circles of many types are found throughout Europe and the Near East, though nowhere is there so large a concentration as found on the north bank of the river Gambia. Here there are hundreds of circles containing many curious features and in particular the unique V or Lyre stones. The commonest shape is round like a pillar with a flat top. Others are square; some taper upwards. There are small stones with a cup-shaped hollow on top. Others have a ball cut in the round top of the stone. There is a recumbent stone shaped like a pillow. The Circles are composed of standing stones between ten and twenty four in any particular circle. One of the striking feature is that almost all the stones forming a given circle are of the same height and size. Their height above the ground varying between two hundred and forty five (245cm) centimeters and sixty centimeters (60cm). The diameter is from thirty centimeters (30cm) to one hundred centimeters (100cm). The largest stones which are at N'jai Kunda must weigh about ten tons each. They were brought down a steep hillside and their transportation on rollers or on hammocks must have presented formidable difficulties and have required a considerable labor force. The stone circles at Wassu As a results of Laboratory tests at the University of Dakar, the date of the sample was found to be from 750 A.D plus or minus 110 years. The stones were cut out of laterite (\" a cementation of ferruginous sandstone \") that occurs in large outcrops in this region. It is a feature of this stone that it hardens upon exposure to the air, and that prior to such exposure it is relatively easy to quarry. Where several circles are found on the same site the exterior stones form a continuos line as at Wassu. A lot of explanations have been given about the shape of the Senegambia Stone Circles by Islamic historians and wise observers. One of such explanations was revealed by the late Alhaji Kemoring Jaiteh a well known Islamic scholar of Kuntaur Fulla Kunda in Niani. According to his writings, if a small stone stands near a large one, that shows that, some one was buried with his/her child. Similarly, if the stones are V-shape, that pictures that two close relatives died on the same day and were buried together. The circles are said to be built around mounds of kings and chiefs, in the same way as royal persons were buried in the ancient empire of Ghana. Once Islam was brought into Senegambia in the 11th century, devout Muslims especially the \"Karamos\" were also buried in the same way. Consequently, some of these Circles became holy places. Today, small stones and vegetables like tomatoes are still left on the stones. Some of these stones are said to shine bright at night. from URL: http://home3.inet.tele.dk/mcacamara/stones.html"}, {"response": 110, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (11:17)", "body": "Thanks, Maggie. Thanks for getting us out of the insular mode and into the wider world of stone circles. There are even Amerindian one. Fascinating. The url is always welcome and as soon as I am fully awake I'm going there to look for pictures."}, {"response": 111, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (11:43)", "body": "Maggie's Pictures of African Stone Circles:"}, {"response": 112, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (11:44)", "body": "Very interesting. Looks like they had to fabricate their megaliths out of smaller stones or bricks. Thanks! Most interesting. Are they on Ley Lines, as well?"}, {"response": 113, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (13:14)", "body": "Did you get my email? That's why I asked if there was a ley line map of Africa. I wondered if it was connected. Did the pictures send OK by email, I just lifted them off the site and they downloaded as jpeg files. These stones are made out of the stuff they make roads with. It's a red stone, I think it's cut in one piece rather than made up of lots of small stones. It just looks crumbly."}, {"response": 114, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (13:34)", "body": "I have not checked for one yet, but it is on the earth's E-Line which I mentioned above. I am sure one (leyline map for Africa) exists. Will hunt for one next. If you look at the first post I made this morning in here it contains your photos you emailed me and I put on Spring's hard drive. Thanks so much - I never would have thought of looking for stone circles in Africa. Have you seen any?"}, {"response": 115, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (13:42)", "body": "This is part of a very long but fascinating article on what are ley lines and are they real. Check it out http://www.isr.umd.edu/~jasonp/leyline.html Ley Lines and Coincidence \"So, recently folks have been connecting up all these ancient sites with straight lines. They can get four, five, even six of them, all in a row.\" \"Sure, but it's all by chance, isn't it?\" Is it? Every time I brought up the ley phenomenon to the uninitiated, I was immediately cut off by this question. The English countryside is full of very ancient sites and earthworks, and many of these fall on alignments over ten miles long, with eerie accuracy. Examples can be found of these \"ley lines\" that seem to defy the law of averages, and one would be hard-pressed to believe that such cases could possibly arise by chance. This paper will explore the statistics of ley lines. Leys are a controversial topic, and objections to their being intentional have arisen from many directions. I will examine what physically constitutes a ley line and then review previous work on how likely a ley line is to arise by chance. A sizeable portion of this paper will then be devoted to my own computer experiments. Note in passing that to focus on ley statistics requires being sketchy in other areas. What's In a Ley? The simplest answer is \"prehistoric standing stones and earthworks\", but already there is controversy. Prehistory spans a very long period, and when two random \"ancient\" structures are chosen it is possible that these features were constructed in periods separated by almost 4000 years (WB 1983:31). Thus those two structures could have been constructed by very different societies, and have had nothing to do with each other. Many ley hunters when including (non-prehistoric) churches in leys, cite a letter from Pope Gregory in 601 AD stating that pagan \"temples\" ought not to be destroyed, but purified and converted to churches (Watkins 194:117). Indeed, there are standing stones in country churchyards, as Watkins shows. Including all churches because of this, however, is unrealistic. Devereux and Thomson list a ley through London that consists of five medieval churches, despite the fact that \"...the city site, while not completely de- serted...was of no special importance until the Romans founded their settlement\" (WB 1983:138) Likewise with castles: a mound is more defensible than flat ground, and many prehistoric mounds exist; castle keeps, then, belong on ley lines. It is again unrealistic, however, that all medieval nobility would have their choice of castle site dictated by existing terrain, when they could simply have the terrain modified to suit their wishes exactly. Watkins hypothesized that ley lines were the sighting points for a vast network of \"straight tracks\" that covered prehistoric England, and his book includes several crossroads used as ley points and instances of dirt pathways uncovered in the course of sewer excavation (Watkins 1948:38-39). The impression received is that deciding whether a given site is a viable candidate for being a \"ley point\" is a difficult matter and would often require archaeological evidence. Ley hunting is typically an easy matter, however. Most ley hunters would only connect the ley points on an Ordnance Service (OS) map and then confirm the ley points in the field. Most do not perform more orthodox research which would tell, for example, that the straight paths through England are mostly \"Planned Countryside\" enacted by Parliament in the 18th and 19th Centuries, while older tracks than these are \"notoriously devoid of straight lines\" (WB 1983:88). Notice also that many of the citations in this paper are from Williamson and Bellamy, both archaeologists; this is because they include historical evidence where others do not. In fairness to the existing material, \"questionable\" ley sites (small mark stones, trees, stretches of modern road) are usually ignored in a published ley. How wide must an \"old straight track\" be? Watkins insisted that ancient tracks be just wide enough to travel on foot, perhaps two to four yards (DT 1979:72). Using a very sharp pencil on an OS map produces an effective line about 30 feet wide; this would be about the best one could expect without doing fieldwork. Statistical studies often could not work with widths less than a hundred yards (see Appendix). Ley Statistics Watkins was the first (1925) to attempt answering the question of whether ley lines of significant size could arise by chance (Watkins 1948:203-204). The OS sheet of Andover contains 51 churches that can be organized into 1 five-point, 8 four-point and 29 three-point leys. To see how many leys could be expected by chance he marked out 51 crosses \"haphazardly\" on a similar size sheet, and found no five-point, 1 four-point and 33 three-point leys. He concluded from this that with 50 sites, finding a four- point ley by chance was unlikely, and a five-point ley was ironclad evidence that the placement was deliberate. From th"}, {"response": 116, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (21:05)", "body": "here's a url for crop circles (gonna post in physical phenom too): http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1700/Crop-Circles/PB-Crop-Circles.html slow-loading so be patient!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (21:23)", "body": "Oh yes! Loads of them...artbell.com even has a link...Loads of them around Stonehenge in the summer and early Autumn. Thanks, Wolfie...I'll post more and some pictures as well."}, {"response": 118, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (16:22)", "body": "I have a little bit of information about magnetic fields in the ocean. It seems that the lemon sharks hatched in the Bimini Lagoon unfailing return every year their natal waters to lay their own eggs. How do they find their way? Magnetic fields. It seems the sharks can sense the proper magnetic field, get onto it, and use like a highway to get to their destination. It never fails them. It would seem knowing where you're going is really important when you're a fish that can't swim backward."}, {"response": 119, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (16:25)", "body": "indeed! *lol*"}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar  3, 2000 (16:51)", "body": "Right...and it just will not do for sharks to surface all that often to check polarization as Whales and Turtles and other air breathers do. Condsidering that Sharks are unchanged from the time of dinosaurs, they must have hit on the right combination early in their evolution! Thanks, Cheryl. Guess I did not know that!"}, {"response": 121, "author": "ommin", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (04:27)", "body": "Now folks a serious question to do with geomagnatism. Some years ago I was told I study Astronomy by the way and meteorology, that they couldn't find the magnetic north pole - apparantly it keeps wondering about the place - now that must have an effect on ley lines etc. The pool near Boxhill that was being talked about is called the Mill Pond it has not far from the edge and extraordinarily deep hole - and when you look at it it is coloured the deepest and most beautiful blue - and we were told as children not to swim in the Mill Pond because it was so deep. In fact for many years Leatherhead my home town had all its water from there - it was the softest, tastiest water I have ever tasted - now its been taken over and they get London water. ugh. Do you think whales beach themselves because of the change in the magnetic north sorry to switch back but strange things are happening around the world and its got my attenae working. Mark what part of Surrey are you from."}, {"response": 122, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (12:05)", "body": "Let me post this first, then I will tackle Anne's comments... http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/plate_tectonics/rift.html Rift in the ocean floor through which red-hot magma is squeezed up from the mantle. The magma solidifies with a magnetic polarity corresponding to that of the Earth's magnetic field. After a long interval of time, the Earth's polarity changes, that is, the magnetic north pole becomes the magnetic south pole, and so the polarity of the newly formed crust changes, too. As new magma is squeezed in, the older crust is moved out from the midocean ridge like a conveyor belt. This produces a series of strips of rock magnetized in opposite senses, with the magnetic stripes parallel and symmetrical to the ridges. Shallow-focus earthquakes occur on the ridge; intermediate and deep-focus earthquakes occur on the downgoing plate as it collides with another plate."}, {"response": 123, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (12:12)", "body": "Better than I could ever explain it and with great diagrams, here is the scoop on the Magnetic North Pole: http://geo.phys.uit.no/articl/roadto.html It is a super read and super easy to understand. There is some conjecture that the beached animals are already sick in such a way as to render their location-sensing system inactive or sending incorrect messages. Perhaps it is a reflex to move to a place where they will not drown if they become incapacitated. Beaching would accomplish that. But, Until we can talk to them we really won't know, I imagine!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (13:30)", "body": "i've heard that there is usually one animal in the group who is ill and the others follow to offer it support. interesting about the north pole moving around. maybe the magnetism has something to do with the moon (like tides)..."}, {"response": 125, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (13:44)", "body": "The moon is large enough to cause tides as it revolves around us. When it is on the same side of us that the sun is, the tidal pull is stronger and the tides higher. Spring tides are strongest because in our eliptical orbit, the sun is closest to us. It is more centrifugal - centripital force than magnetism which does the pulling."}, {"response": 126, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (16:21)", "body": "how does the moon pull then? just by the force as it runs around us? interesting....."}, {"response": 127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (19:34)", "body": "Yup! It is massive enough that it is being held into orbit by the sun pulling one way and the Earth pulling the other. That is often how they discover second stars orbiting a large star or planets orbiting a single star. The stars in question tend to have less-than-perfect orbits, and these \"Perturbations\" are due to the pull of the planets or the minor stars orbiting them."}, {"response": 128, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (19:36)", "body": "Btw, the moon is massive enough and so is the sun, that when they pull on the same side of the orbit, it will cause tides in the liquid rock on which the plates float thus bending the plates themselves (Mike? Or is is just on the crust?)"}, {"response": 129, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (19:37)", "body": "Oh yeah, there are more earthquakes at the dark of the moon (like right now) than any other time - for that very reason!"}, {"response": 130, "author": "ommin", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (02:22)", "body": "Well thank you all for your explanations - especially that at the dark of the moon. Also one of our weather forecasters told us the moon is nearer to us at present - or at least he said so a couple of weeks ago. That must make a difference to the liquid magma I suppose."}, {"response": 131, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (05:52)", "body": "Anne, I wish I could claim I was from 'proper' Surrey - I am in fact from Cheam (now part of Greater London). We went for a walk yesterday from Boxhill station out towards Polesden Lacey and back through Westhumble. Went past Tanners Hatch, a remote youth hostel spoiled by bombs in the War. We read that during the rebuilding in 1970, an old woman knocked on the door one evening asking the way to Wotton Hatch. She was invited in by the National Trust people and given a meal, and complimented them on the work done to the house, saying she had lived there herself long ago. When the time came for her to leave the door was opened, but she had disappeared, and an owl was sitting on the back of the chair she had been in, the same owl that had been the only creature watching the renovation work. You have to see this cottage in its little thickly-wooded valley to appreciate the spookiness of this story, however apocryphal. Nothing to do with Geomagnetism and sharks, sorry. Is magnetism the way that turtles always make it back to their home beach to lay eggs, despite travelling across oceans for years in between?"}, {"response": 132, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (10:25)", "body": "Geomagnetism is usually for thin-skinned (no shell) creatures who are do not surface for air. The air-breathers are usually navigating by polarization of sunlight(which also works on cloudy days) much as the Vikings did after they figured it out...or remembered it again. Mark, that was the most incredible story! It is 6am and still dark outside; I am now full of chills of the most incredible sort. Thanks for sharing that story. I'll bet being there was even more amazing. I'll bet it was mentioned on the walk back!"}, {"response": 133, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (13:03)", "body": "that's some story, mark, an owl....the turtles use the stars (as they hatch at night) and for this reason, some are found going the wrong way because they are fooled by the street lights. i would love to sit on the beach and watch these turtles make their way home."}, {"response": 134, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:06)", "body": "I would love to watch the hatching little scapers, but it would be beyond me to not interfere with the little ones who go astray and that is strictly forbidden. We have them here and I guess I could arrange to be in on one. Hmmm...! Is anyone interested in experiencing something incredible? Dowsing? I am an extreme skeptic but my son taught me and it is the most astounding thing to have rods swiveling in your hands when you are not moveing them! I can tell you how and what you need..."}, {"response": 135, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:08)", "body": "There is conjecture that some birds use polarized light and others use star patterns as turtles do (you are right about that, Wolfie!)...and Polynesians!"}, {"response": 136, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:09)", "body": "Have you decided how dowsing works? - I don't think it's magic!"}, {"response": 137, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:17)", "body": "Not magic at all - at least the kind I will teach you - we localed the pipes and electrical circuit under our cement slab floor and out into the septic tank using this method and it works incredibly precisely!"}, {"response": 138, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:19)", "body": "don't you need a willow branch? the only willow in my neighborhood is in someone's yard and i don't think they'd appreciate me sneaking over there in the middle of the night to get a forked branch! dowsing amazes me though! and yes, i'd love to try, so do tell us, it'd be a \"hands on\" lesson!!"}, {"response": 139, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:12)", "body": "I do not know how to hunt for water with a willow branch. When I told the house male what David showed me the ever-skeptical IO said he had done it lots of time himself but did not let on he did. It worked for him, too. Get thee to a auromotive parts store or wherever you can find bronze brazing rods. Mine are about 36\" or 1 meter long. You'll need two. They are skinny so I used empty stick ball pen outsides with the ink chamber removed. You're gonna need a vise here or a pair of pliers and a strong arm 'cause you need to bend at a right angle about 4\" (10 cm) of one end. David used just his bare hands but I found it easier to hold steady with a larger thing to grip. The rods must be held loosely enough to swing freely."}, {"response": 140, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:18)", "body": "Now that you have them in your hands and you can pivot your body without moving your feet and have the rods swing in them, we are off to try them out. Holding them so the long parts are parallel to the ground and with your elbows tight to your sides so you do not try to move the rods, consider your hands and arms extensions of your rods. Work in your house first so you know if there are pipes under you and that you are NOT moving the rods. Holding your arms and wrists rigid and holding loosely to your rods but keeping them straight out in front of you, walk slowly across the room."}, {"response": 141, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:20)", "body": "I'm sorry to throw the topic back to the Moon, but it is a massive sattelite to the Earth. Being 1/6 the size of the Earth makes it so large in fact that the Earth and Moon together can be considered a double planet. At one time it was much closer to the Earth, making for a year of 44 months and phenomenally high tides which rushed across the Earth's surface."}, {"response": 142, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:22)", "body": "You are right, of course! Thanks for bringing that up. (They are busy walking across the floor with their brazing rods...) The Moon is considered to be a captured protoplanet which did not make it. Unless there has been another theory posited since I last checked!"}, {"response": 143, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:38)", "body": "There is the theory that the Moon is a part of the infant Earth which was knocked loose by a comet."}, {"response": 144, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (17:10)", "body": "I have heard of that, as well, but I have not seen a good representation of what that must have looked like and I just cannot imagine the Earth as a dumb-bell. ...the inhabitants, however...!"}, {"response": 145, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:36)", "body": "wait, i haven't been to the auto parts store...what are brazing rods? and do the ends of the separate rods both go into one ball pen container? then you bend the opposite ends where you hold on?"}, {"response": 146, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:19)", "body": "Thbey'll know. They are brass rods which are about the thickness of the neck wire on a wooden coar hanger...and about a yard (meter) long."}, {"response": 147, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:22)", "body": "You'll need two pen outsides. One empty ball pen or felt kiddies marker works even better in each hand."}, {"response": 148, "author": "ommin", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (20:42)", "body": "Mark, I was actually born in Epsom Hospital just up the road from you! My mother used to work in West Ewell. I also lived in Ashtead from 1979-85 where my interest in ley lines and all things odd from the past started. Mainly because of Stane Street, Roman remains in Ashtead found by St. Giles Church - they found a tiled floor of a Roman Villa - and the tile factory remains are still in Ashtead Woods - worth looking for. Ashtead woods is very ancient and you can walk there from Ashtead Station - throught the common to the wood on the other side of the station from walking into the village - well worth walking through that was my daily walk with my dog. Makes me homesick. What a story about the house - it always felt spooky that walk from Polesden Lacey to Boxhill done it lots of times. Anne"}, {"response": 149, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (20:50)", "body": "* s i g h *"}, {"response": 150, "author": "ommin", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:09)", "body": "There was a ford over the River Mole at Leatherhead - Mark I expect you know it the pub the Running Horse is nearby! that is really ancient - pre Iron Age even and on the way to Stonehenge. The River Mole is strange it called so because it burrows its way in and out of the ground - but is quite delightful especially at the splash in Fetcham another ancient area. Lots of funny names around too Cobham, Oxshott, Bookham, Upper and Lower, Ashtead, Upper and Lower, Effingham, all with probably anglo saxon connatations. Wooton Hatch -m mentioned by Mark. I'll think of some more later my mind's gone blank. The road to Guildford - the Hogs Back, the Devils Punchbowl on the way to Hindhead/Greyshott (Marcia will know that connection!) Stoke D'Abernon how about that one. I'll stop - but strange things do happen in places of ancient habitation."}, {"response": 151, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:13)", "body": "(salivating and dreaming I am there) You cannot know how happy I am that those ancient trackways and memories are in good keeping. By all means, Mark, take the kids with you and tell them all about it. Incredible. I am so envious! More! Please!"}, {"response": 152, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (05:04)", "body": "I'll have to have some kids first, Marcia, before I can tell them anything! You want some more odd names Anne, how about Abinger Hammer, the lake called Friday Street, Coldharbour, Normandy, Fox Corner, Holmbury St Mary, Liphook and Churt? I went to school in Epsom and have spent most of my summer weekends playing cricket in places like Brockham, Dorking, Newdigate, Frensham, Rudgwick and Westcott (well those are the nice places, also hundreds of recreation grounds in the Surrey/London suburbs)."}, {"response": 153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (10:43)", "body": "Oh, Mark...Dorking? Did you know the Oliviers, too? There is nothing quite as enchanting as seeing a stack of finger posts at an intersection on minor roadways. What lovely names they have on them! Straight out of a childhood book. Thanks for those names, Mark...*sigh*"}, {"response": 154, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (10:44)", "body": "Sorry I got the cart before the horse on the next generation of your family...or is that the baby carriage?!"}, {"response": 155, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (11:06)", "body": "Space Science News for March 7, 2000 Lost and Found: Two moons of the gas giant Uranus have been missing for 14 years. Now scientists have re-discovered the long-lost satellites. FULL STORY at Shepherd Moons, Lost and Found SPACE WEATHER NOTE, MARCH 6/7, 2000: For the second night in a row, residents of Canada and the northern United States should be on the alert for aurora borealis. Details at SpaceWeather.com"}, {"response": 156, "author": "ommin", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (00:30)", "body": "Mark yes of course, my mind went blank - I do remember forty-foot recreation ground though - and it was much larger than forty-foot. Surrey and Sussex have some wonderful names havn't they. Shere, Gomshall, Hurstmonceaux, Pulborough, Horsham, Crawley, Three Bridges, have walked or cycled to them all in my youth. Abinger Hammer is very special - it has a clock with an old man and a hammer, Ill see if I have a picture of it somewhere. I have lots of Surrey Calendars about the place. All so very old and full of mystery!!"}, {"response": 157, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (10:32)", "body": "oh boy!!! Good stuff continues to flow and I am scanning my Ordnance Sruvey atlas and following your treks with great relish!"}, {"response": 158, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (17:09)", "body": "The Lost Moons of Uranus Found! I've always had an affinity for Uranus. Firstly, there's no polite or unfunny way to pronounce it, and it sits on its side. It poles are from east to west, not north to south. So it has an East Pole and a West Pole. As the planets go, Uranus (however you say it) is something of a non-conformist."}, {"response": 159, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (17:29)", "body": "a planet rebel! how'd it get that name anyway?"}, {"response": 160, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (17:43)", "body": "The name is from Roman Mythology. Uranus was the father of the god Saturn and the grandfather of Jupiter. The funny thing about Uranus being a rebel is that in astrology the planet is the ruler of the 11th house, Aquarius, a sign associated with rebels. Then again Ronald Reagan was an Aquarian, go figure."}, {"response": 161, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (19:12)", "body": "(whew!) Thanks Cheryl for supplying the answer. I was laughing at the comment \"I always had an affinity with Uranus\"...it was fraught with possibilities... (none of which are useable in this conference) *grin*"}, {"response": 162, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (19:49)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 163, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (15:41)", "body": "Yeah, well as an Aquarian my planetary ruler is Uranus, so I really do have an affinity with the planet. It is one of those things you have to be careful about how you say it, and to whom you say it. I am among friends, hopefully. (grin)"}, {"response": 164, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (16:44)", "body": "You are among friends here *grin* I pronounce it the way it is supposed to be... Funny...if it is pronounced one way it is rectally offensive. The other way it has to do with the kidneys of two or more individuals. It is a win-win name!!!"}, {"response": 165, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (16:54)", "body": "Antiquarian?! I knew I liked you!!! Me too!! That means I have an affinity for Uranus, as well?! *giggle*"}, {"response": 166, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (17:29)", "body": "*lol* oh, this just keeps getting better. people think saying the second pronunciation is so much nicer sounding!!"}, {"response": 167, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (17:42)", "body": "I was just sitting here thinking (always a dangerous thing for me) and my mind wandered...and went places it does not usually go *lol* I'm a purist and a mythologist. The first pronounciation is the preferred one."}, {"response": 168, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (17:49)", "body": "yer anus, that is the preferred pronunciation. amazing and to think that the powers that be decided \"her a**\" should be \"hair us\"....*lol*"}, {"response": 169, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:20)", "body": "Everything is bass-awkward anymore. The 'f' word is used as punctuatuion but we worry about sounding vulgar with \"Her a$$\" Sumthin is seriously wrong here. Yew Ray Nus is the way to say it politely...*grin*...or impolitely!"}, {"response": 170, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:29)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 171, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:39)", "body": "I have been laughing at your reaponse 168 so hard I had to go wash my reading glasses. Ya made'um all blurry!"}, {"response": 172, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:41)", "body": "i'm glad!!"}, {"response": 173, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:59)", "body": "*grin*"}, {"response": 174, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (21:03)", "body": "ok, chariots of the gods is on right now on TLC (the learning channel). this is the show i talked about earlier in this topic...."}, {"response": 175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (23:42)", "body": "http://www.msnbc.com/news/379778.asp?cp1=1 March 9 \ufffd Scientists are monitoring ricocheting ripples on the sun\ufffds surface to get their first picture of what\ufffds happening on the far side. They say the technique opens the way for systems that can give an early warning about potentially disruptive solar storms a week or more before Earth feels their effects. LIKE THE UNANTICIPATED ARRIVAL of hurricanes before the advent of weather satellites, a group of previously hidden explosive regions can rotate suddenly into view as the sun turns, blazing away with threatening eruptions. The new technique opens a window to the far side of the sun using the Michelson Doppler Imager instrument on the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, a $1 billion satellite launched in 1995. SOHO, which is operated by NASA and the European Space Agency, monitors the sun from a stable point in space 1 million miles from Earth. \ufffdWe\ufffdve known for 10 years that in theory we could make the sun transparent all the way to the far side,\ufffd solar physicists Charles Lindsey and Douglas Braun said in a written statement released by NASA. \ufffdBut we needed observations of exceptional quality. In the end, we got them.\ufffd Lindsey and Braun described the technique in Friday\ufffds issue of the journal Science and during a NASA briefing Thursday. Lindsey is a researcher at Solar Physics Research Corp. in Tucson, Ariz., while Braun works at NorthWest Research Associates in Boulder, Colo. Their research focused on potentially explosive areas on the sun called active regions. Such regions produce solar flares and eruptions of hot, electrically charged gas called coronal mass ejections. The radiation and gas from these events sweep past Earth at more than 1 million miles an hour (1.6 million kilometers per hour), sometimes disrupting spacecraft, radio communications and power systems. Understanding and forecasting solar eruptions and their consequences has spawned a branch of science called space weather. As the sun rotates on its 27-day cycle, active regions that include concentrations of sunspots move from the far side of the sun to face Earth. But even before the active regions become visible, they send out characteristic sound waves that reverberate through the sun\ufffds interior. \ufffdThese waves reflect all the way through the sun,\ufffd Braun said. The SOHO imager can spot the ripples on the sun\ufffds surface generated by those sound waves, just as seismic instruments on Earth can pick up the reverberations of distant earthquakes. It takes the waves about six hours to rebound from the far side of the sun through the interior, along a path that ricochets off the surface. Lindsey and Braun found that active regions have strong magnetic fields that speed up the sound waves by six to 12 seconds. The difference becomes evident when sound waves shuttling back and forth get out of step with one another, they reported. SOHO data for March 28-29, 1998, revealed a sunspot group on the far side that was not plainly visible on the near side until 10 days later, they said. Observations for 24 hours were more than sufficient to detect the sunspots."}, {"response": 176, "author": "vibrown", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (00:40)", "body": "Hmm, looks like we've had a little \"conversational entropy\" (which is typical for most of my conversations) while I've been away... ;-) To follow the Greek/Roman mythology thread... We could use the Greek pronounciation of Uranus - \"oo-ra-NOS\", which means \"sky\". The sky and the earth were the father and mother of the Titans, which included Kronos (Saturn), which means \"time\". Funny how one can loose two moons! (\"Now where did I put those silly things...?\") Great to see the Hubble doing its job, though!"}, {"response": 177, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (17:45)", "body": "Please do keep the other stuff going in here and I will put the extra-terrestrial stuff in geo 24 where it more properly belongs. A third and socially acceptable pronunciation of Uranus. Like it.. we are now talking about noses...rather, NOS's"}, {"response": 178, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (19:31)", "body": "the extra-terrestrial can go in para/ufo and alien theories... so now we're talking about noses?"}, {"response": 179, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (19:34)", "body": "If we use the original Greek pronounciation! *lol* Soon we will not have any idea of what the other is speaking with the various \"dialects\" and socially acceptable ways of saying it. How to confuse the issue BIG time! Yup! Sending the ufos and their passengers over to you...Not my thing, actually."}, {"response": 180, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (19:40)", "body": "Actually, extra-terrestrial in Geo-terms means Beyond Earth which is why I named the topic thusly. Extra-terrestrial would have attracted much a different clientele. *grin*"}, {"response": 181, "author": "ommin", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (05:18)", "body": "Talking about beyond the earth = got into a discussion with a Jewish friend of ours on the word Nephalim - or giants who slept with the children of men. He went on to say that there was some grounds for thinking Zeus, Jupiter, Hercules etc. from Greek Mythology - perhaps even Mithras, some Egyptian Myths would refer to the same beings not from this world. They were prevalent pre-flood - and from our studies of the great rift valley near Eilat there is definite proof of a great flood of some sort some thousands of years ago. Is this relevant to this one if not please Marcia put into the relevant one. Anne."}, {"response": 182, "author": "ommin", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (05:20)", "body": "By the way it can be found in the Old Testament - Genesis in relation to Noah. Its an interesting topic and some would say the ley lines, anti-magnetic forms of travelling came from that time. I must get Elliot to perhaps share some of his thoughts. He is quite a scholar."}, {"response": 183, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (13:08)", "body": "I'm going to create a topic for creation-of-the-Earth lore and mythology. Please encourage your friend to contribute. This one is fine to start off with and please consult the newest topic Geo 28. (Happy me!)"}, {"response": 184, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (16:10)", "body": "I once took a class on the Book of Genesis. I was confused at the end of the class; I had know idea what was up with the Book of Genesis. To start with in Hebrew God is sometimes referred to as singular and sometimes as plural. (God is always referred to as masculine singular, never feminine singular.) Back to God as plural -- there is a passage where God says that we have done well. Who exactly is he talking to, can't be angels, they didn't have a hand in creation. Then there are the passages regarding the sons of God, but sometimes called the sons of the gods, who came down to Earth and lay with the daughters of men. thus giving rise to the giants who walked the Earth. Oh to backtrack, Cain is banished, goes off and founds the first city, and has a family. Where did these other people come from to populate the city and to provide Cain with a wife. Which leads to my embarassing gaffe in understanding the Scriptures. I thought Adam was practicing beastiality with the animals in the Garden, that was why God felt that it was not good for him to be alone. So God provided him with a companion. This is where things really got wierd. There is the tradition of Lilith, the first wife of Adam, who refused to assume a subserviant sexual position to Adam, fled to the Red Sea, and became the consort of Satan. To be fair the Lilith tradition states that she was created at the same time as Adam and as she fled Eden before the Fall retained her immortality. Then there is the tradition of the first Eve, she was created after Adam, from the same dust as he. God did not cause Adam to sleep and he saw her entire creation. It disgusted him, so much he wouldn't even go near her. I have no idea what happened to the first Eve so the way could be open for the second Eve. She who is said to be the Mother of Us All, although maybe not of Cain's wife."}, {"response": 185, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (16:18)", "body": "Right you are..Cheryl! I tool OT as literature in College just prior to taking OT archaeology. Elohim is plural! Gods made heaven and earth. We need to take this discussion to Geo 28... May I transplant your comments there?"}, {"response": 186, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (16:19)", "body": "Yes, feel free to move them."}, {"response": 187, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (16:32)", "body": "Thanks - I just did =) I opened a most interesting topic, I think. Now, if we can just keep from offending anyone..."}, {"response": 188, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (11:10)", "body": "The LeyLines should be hopping this week: SPACE WEATHER NEWS : On March 25, 2000, a solar flare erupted near the center of the Sun's disk. It appears that a coronal mass ejection was launched toward Earth. An interplanetary shock wave could pass our planet during the next 24 to 48 hours, triggering moderate geomagnetic activity and aurorae. For more information and daily updates please visit http://www.spaceweather.com ."}, {"response": 189, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (14:07)", "body": "NASA Science News for April 25, 2000 Stargazers around the globe were treated to an unexpected and rare display of red-colored aurora on April 6-7, 2000, after a vigorous interplanetary shock wave passed by Earth. This story includes a gallery of more than 40 images showing the aurora borealis from Europe and over parts of the United States as far south as Florida. FULL STORY at http://www.spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast25apr_1m.htm"}, {"response": 190, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (14:28)", "body": "Alabama Germany Texas Larger images are available of the above pictured posted above. Brushfires in the Sky Stargazers around the globe were treated to an unexpected and rare display of red-colored aurora on April 6-7, 2000. April 25, 2000 -- Two weeks ago star gazers around the world were outdoors in force. The moon, Jupiter, Saturn and Mars were clustered together in the evening sky on April 6 for a picturesque display just after sunset. With cameras poised to record the spectacle, observers were treated to a dazzling show -- but it wasn't the show they expected. The sky, instead of darkening as the sun sank below the western horizon, turned vivid red, then green and shimmering yellow. It was a rare and unexpected display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Florida. \"My intent was to capture the crescent moon along with Saturn, Jupiter and Mars,\" said Keith Cooley, an amateur astrophotographer in Athens, Alabama. \"The aurora flare up was sudden and without warning! It was my first observation ever of such an event.\" Above: Keith Cooley captured this photo of the planets against a backdrop of reddish-colored Northern Lights from his backyard in Athens Alabama on April 6, 2000, at 8:30 p.m. Central Daylight Time. (Camera: Cannon AE-1; F-stop: 1.8; film: Polaroid 400 ASA; exposure time: 10-20 seconds) The celestial display started around 1630 UT on April 6 when a powerful interplanetary shock wave passed by the Earth. Aurora borealis were observed almost immediately over Asia and Europe. Auroras, or \"Northern Lights\", are usually confined to high latitudes, but this was the biggest geomagnetic storm in years. By 2000 UT, observers in central Europe were reporting colorful lights in the sky. \"Aurora borealis is a rare event in our area, so to see it for the very first time is impressive -- to see a display like [this was] really dazzling!\" recounted Ron Baart of Warmenhuizen, Holland. \"It was about 8:55 p.m. local time [on April 6] that we saw a pillar of red light in the northern sky ....also green-blue to white features could be seen dancing in the heavens.\" Left: Juergen Rendtel snapped this photo from Marquardt (near Potsdam), Germany. (camera: f/4, f=20 mm lens; film: Ektapress 1600; exposure time: 15-30 seconds). By the time night fell over North America, the geomagnetic storm was beginning to subside, but not before auroras were spotted in at least 23 states. Reports poured in from as far south as Florida and as far west as Utah. \"Most of northwest Colorado was cloud-covered the night of April 6,\" recalls James Westlake, Professor of Astronomy at Colorado Mountain College in Steamboat Springs, CO, \"so I took a group of SKY Club members ... west into Utah. We weren't disappointed. From near Moab, Utah, we watched the pink and green fountains spurt above the northern horizon for several hours around midnight!\" In the Big Bend region of Texas, observers at the McDonald Observatory were surprised when the sky suddenly turned red during a star party. \"Sometime between 9:30 and 10 p.m. CDT, one of [the Observatory's] Public Affairs staff, Mr. William Wren, was doing a private star party for some folks when he spotted what he at first thought to be a brush fire,\" wrote Frank Cianciolo, a public affairs officer at the University of Texas. \"He quickly realized the truth of the matter, grabbed our digital still camera and popped off a small panoramic showing the aurora and one of our public domes (pictured above).\""}, {"response": 191, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "Texas"}, {"response": 192, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (19:34)", "body": "Propagation Forecast Bulletin 17 - April 28, 2000 Sunspots and solar flux were up this week. The average sunspot number was up over 40 points and average solar flux rose over 30 points over the past week. Geomagnetic indices have been mostly quiet, with April 24 the most active day. Last week's bulletin ARLP016 said that the solar flux should be up around 220 this weekend, but conditions are not cooperating. Although activity has been higher this week than last, it is not as high as expected. Solar flux is expected to hover around 175 to 185 until April 8, then dip below 170, and rise to around 200 from May 19 through 28. The planetary A index prediction indicates unsettled conditions for Friday. The A index should stay quiet from this weekend until May 6 and 7, when it may rise to 15. Predicted solar flux for the next five days, Friday through Tuesday is 180, 175, 175, 180 and 180. Sunspot numbers for April 20 through 26 were 179, 211, 226, 252, 222, 229 and 197 with a mean of 216.6. 10.7 cm flux was 180.6, 187.3, 201.8, 206.1, 205.6, 202.5 and 189.9, with a mean of 196.3, and estimated planetary A indices were 14, 10, 7, 8, 21, 6 and 4, with a mean of 10."}, {"response": 193, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May  1, 2000 (22:41)", "body": "these were posted in the Radio Conference but I am moving them here where they are more like what Geomagnetism is all about: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, May 1, 2000 (22:05) * 22 lines Hi Marcia This is a bit of a stray from the boatanchor thread but another interest of mine is in VLF, ELF, and down. There is an interesting club called the LWCA (Long Wave Club of America) - there is a 'Sounds of Natural Radio' section which deals with sferics, whistlers, dawn chorus, etc. There are some experimenters who monitor the SLF frequencies for signals generated by Mother Earth (earth quakes, the magnetosphere, etc...) This is much more suited for the Geo section where I can move this thread to. The only radio I have that goes down that low is a Watkins Johnson set that tunes down to 6khz. Have never heard anything down there except for Omega navigation. There is also FSK and CW signals from the Navy which uses the low frequencies to transmit to subs. I think there was once an ELF transmitter in Wisconsin who's antenna covered lots of miles. There are man made signals from 1khz down to 1hz no doubt but you do not read about them in the paper... 3's and 8's de secret agent mike Marcia: * Mon, May 1, 2000 (22:38) * 3 lines Oooh! Great stuff, Mike! you can also hear distant lightning as it strikes the ground, with the right frequency terraphones. Love this thread and no one has discussed anything like it in Geo, though that is why I set up Geomagnetism (topic 27) wanna continue there? I'll paste these two posts there and continue. 3's n 8's Marcia, who's delighted..."}, {"response": 194, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May  1, 2000 (22:45)", "body": "I should have created GeoPhonics just for Mike. Too slow on the switch tonight. We had a Loran station at the north tip of this island, and for miles, any radio would pick it up. Most obtrusive. Those sub communication arrays do use up huge areas of land and broadcast some where around 7 Hz (or is that MHz?) Have only heard them once, but it is a curious sound. Then there are those who are sure teh Tesla folks are changing the weather using other aesoteric frequencies."}, {"response": 195, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (21:45)", "body": "Hi Marcia Ok, finally made it here.... First, regarding the Ley lines - saw an interesting journal out of the UK called \"Ley Hunter\" which provided serious research towards the study of ley lines. There was mention of a study of the earth mounds in Wisconsin which showed some ley line characteristics. The area where I live was a much traveled area for the ancient tribes (north/south waterways). Of course, there is also Lake Michigan... I am pretty sure there are ley lines running through the geographical area of Enchanted Rock near Fredricksburg Texas as well as the West Texas regions where the rock walls are covered with pictographs. Re the ELF stuff - I will have to find the web pages regarding this but there are groups that study pressure waves, earthquakes, etc - there are super low frequency receivers (actually amplifiers) that integrate signals over long periods of time - the resulting data is then 'spead up' to reveal acoustic tweeks and such. No doubt there are man made signals in the below 1khz range although the data rate would be very slow (hence the long integration time) Not quite sure what kind of valid data could be sent aside from three letter code groups or something. The natural signals are probably alot more fun to listen to. For a good receiver design, do a web search on project INSPIRE which was a Nasa experiment that involved vlf signals sent from the space shuttle - I think the project didnt work but so many people were listening to the receivers during that time that it was the first instance such large amounts of data was collected of natural radio signals. Finally, will have to save a posting on Tesla experiments although I would like to build a high power tesla coil to goof around with. mike aka cosmo AA9IL"}, {"response": 196, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (22:00)", "body": "Gads! So much good stuff in your post, Mike! Aloha and big thanks. Want to take it to Radio conference and name it.... (your call - !) Tesla probably belongs there too, unless you want one in here called Sounds of the Earth (or whatever) I have heard of The Ley Hunter and there are websites all over the net concerning them. There are also E lines (look back through this topic - there are maps and people from England who posted their experiences with ley lines) Any thoughts on Crop Cicrles? I created Earth Mysteries for the far outside of \"scientific\" thought. I posted a fractal which will knock your sox off! I am SO delighted to know the various interests which entertain you - they also fascinate me!"}, {"response": 197, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May  5, 2000 (18:00)", "body": "http://www.cryptome.org/twa800-emi.htm Special Supplement The Fall of TWA 800: The Possibility of Electromagnetic Interference By Elaine Scarry Elaine Scarry teaches at Harvard University, where she is Cabot Professor of Aesthetics and the General Theory of Value. Her writings include The Body in Pain and articles on war and the social contract. Reconstructing the wreckage of TWA 800 in a Long island hangar, November, 1997. The piles of wire visible in the foreground are only a part of the plane's 150 miles of wiring. For more than a year, the inquiry into the fall of TWA 800 has addressed three questions: whether mechanical trouble can be ruled out, whether a bomb inside the plane can be ruled out. whether a missile or other high-velocity object (such as a meteorite) can be ruled out. But there is a fourth possibility that has been ignored and that needs to be raised in the inquiry. To a civilian, the phrase \"electromagnetic interference\" may at first sound puzzling, even though every commercial flight begins with the instruction to passengers to turn off during takeoff all computers, headsets, radios, and telephones. The power radiated by these objects is tiny. But their emissions can travel out of the cabin windows to the antennas on the outer body of the plane; therefore the FAA regulation requiring airlines to prohibit passenger use of such objects has remained firmly in place.1 Interference from military equipment can be thousands, even millions, of times as great,2 and can have much more serious consequences for airborne planes. Because ten military planes and ships were in the vicinity of TWA 800 that night, we need to ask the airmen and sailors on the planes and ships to describe with precision the pieces of equipment that were in use. HOW REAL IS THE PROBLEM OF HIGH INTENSITY RADIATED FIELDS? Much more follows - please visit the url and let me know what you think."}, {"response": 198, "author": "ommin", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2000 (02:09)", "body": "Hi, reminded me of a frightening experience my husband I had coming out of Israel in the early 1980's. New plane, new electonics, everything supposed to be perfect but just before crossing over Cyprus everything went off. The pilot himself came out and send nothing to worry about! That was it we all worried. We managed to land in Nicosia Airport to ostensibly refuel. We took off again - things seemed to be going okay until time to land at Gatwick. A friend was watching us land as he had brought our car with him. No lights could be seen on the plane except inner lighting - and it become obvious the pilot was concerned after we landed. They theorised later someone in the plane was using their eletronic equipment!!! It had messed up the electrics in the plane and we were apparently lucky to arrive at our destination so they said! Okay it was a long time ago - but the memory remains - I wonder on reading that article whether or not it was an outside influence too."}, {"response": 199, "author": "ommin", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2000 (02:10)", "body": "P.S. Elaine Scarry has an appropriate name!!!!"}, {"response": 200, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May  6, 2000 (12:57)", "body": "Ms Scarry does have an appropriate name. If you ever beome a white-knuckle flier, you have plenty of excuses. That must have been worrisome in the least and frightening at worst!"}, {"response": 201, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May  7, 2000 (15:29)", "body": "http://www.sciencenews.org/20000506/fob5.asp Intergalactic magnetism runs deep and wide P. Weiss Hunting for magnetic energy in intergalactic space, researchers have found an unexpected motherlode of it. Both in the gaps between galaxies that are clustered and in the lonelier neighborhoods outside those clusters, magnetic fields are remarkably strong, a scientific team reports. As their hunt widens, the scientists find that they are detecting more extensive fields, says Philipp P. Kronberg of the University of Toronto, leader of the decades-long search. Kronberg reported the results April 29 at an American Physical Society meeting in Long Beach, Calif. This is evidence of a tremendous energy source that astronomers have overlooked, comments theorist Stirling A. Colgate of Los Alamos (N.M.) National Laboratory. At the meeting, he argued that enormous dynamos powered by black holes have cranked up these intergalactic magnetic fields. Other researchers suspect instead that the fields arose during the early history of the universe. The magnetic field observations might help researchers understand the origins of the highest-energy cosmic rays and, ultimately, sort out whether magnetic fields have helped shape the universe. One way that astronomers measure cosmic magnetic field strengths is by detecting how light from more distant quasars rotates its angle of polarization as it travels through a region of interest, say a galaxy or galaxy cluster. The stronger the magnetism there or the denser the gas that the field pervades, the more the field rotates the light's polarization. To estimate the magnetic field strength, researchers compare the polarizations of quasar light that does and doesn't pass through the region, and they use data from an X-ray telescope to determine the density of the region's gas. A decade ago, Kronberg and other coworkers made such a calculation for Earth's largest nearby galaxy cluster\ufffdthe Coma cluster in the constellation Coma Berenices. This cluster lies about 300 million light-years away. The scientists found to their surprise that the cluster's dilute intergalactic gas had magnetic fields of 2 to 3 microgauss (\ufffdG), similar in strength to those in the Milky Way. Because the Coma cluster has some unusual traits, the investigators remained uncertain about whether most clusters have potent magnetic fields. Other research groups have since measured other cluster fields. Some have reported still higher magnetic fields in regions where gravity strongly compresses a cluster's gas. At this week's meeting, Kronberg described extending the Coma cluster experiment to 24 clusters near Earth, purposely avoiding compressed regions. He finds on the average even higher field strengths, about 5 \ufffdG, than he did a decade ago. \"That tells us there's significant energy in space contained in the [intergalactic] magnetic fields,\" he says. \"I'm surprised, very surprised,\" says Russell M. Kulsrud of Princeton University, adding that he harbors some doubts that the strengths \"are quite as high as [Kronberg] said.\" But even if the field strengths are a bit smaller, he adds, \"they are still . . . very difficult to explain.\" To investigate the spatial extent of intergalactic fields, the researchers took a different tack. In the presence of a magnetic field, charged particles moving at velocities near the speed of light give off so-called synchrotron radiation. Mapping synchrotron radiation from a patch of sky with a radio telescope indicates both where and how strong magnetic fields are. About a decade ago, Kronberg and his coworkers had picked up synchrotron-radiation signals indicating field strengths outside the Coma cluster of a hundredth to a few tenths of the cluster's field strengths. Those first fields to be detected outside a cluster extended millions of light-years beyond the cluster's bounds. Radio-telescope improvements since then have made it possible for researchers to search for magnetic fields across a much larger patch of sky and to do so at lower frequencies, which are sensitive to weaker radiation, Kronberg says. In a test of that capability, he and his colleagues used the Very Large Array of radio dishes at Socorro, N.M., to look again at the environs of the Coma cluster. The new radio image shows essentially the same pattern of extended fields. However, it also contains patches of fields having roughly equivalent strength much further from Coma and extending into the surrounding population of galaxies. The image \"confirms that these magnetic fields really exist in intergalactic space,\" Kronberg claims. Calling both sets of findings \"very intriguing,\" Eugene N.Parker of the University of Chicago insists they offer no easy answers about the origins and influences of cosmic magnetic fields. Rather, he says, they are \"a warning flag\" indicating that scientists don't really understand how magnetic fields work."}, {"response": 202, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Sun, May  7, 2000 (22:24)", "body": "Greetings all The Longwave Club of America has a web page check out: www.lwca.org The club membership is $18 a year (US) and includes the LowDown magazine. Most excellent Membership address is: Long Wave Club of America 45 Wildflower Road Levittown PA 19057-3209"}, {"response": 203, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May  7, 2000 (22:28)", "body": "Thanks, Mike! I'll make that a hotlink... The Longwave Club of America has a web page check out: http://www.lwca.org I expect I shall join, if the magazine is most excellent. High praise, indeed!"}, {"response": 204, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May  7, 2000 (22:31)", "body": "Something like telling them how to hear the remnants of The Big Bang should bring in some eager followers of the casual Geo visitors and lurkers. Or is that not what those sounds are thought to be nowadays? You tell'um. They'll be amazed! paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 24, "subject": "Numerology", "response_count": 56, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "from marcia: Numerology forecast..... 3/9/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 9 2. day + month: 12 (3 + 9) 3. day + month + year: 14 (3 + 9 + 2+0+0+0) 9 represents benevolent and humane: keep others needs in mind. 12 signifies an extreme point of view: review other opinions even if they seem far fetched. 14 symbolizes a safeguard or protective shield: seek divine protection and a guiding light."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (14:39)", "body": "Thanks Wolfie! Now you or I can scribble the other copy !"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (14:44)", "body": "you go ahead, i don't know how (still)....."}, {"response": 4, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (16:56)", "body": "Numerology - isn't that what IRS, accountants and rabbis do?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (15:56)", "body": "Here's the forecast..... 3/10/2000 The important numbers are in the low range. This means that today you would have detours and challenges working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 10 2. day + month: 13 (3 + 10) 3. day + month + year: 15 (3 + 10 + 2+0+0+0) 10 represents unpredictable and inconsistent: expect the unforeseen. 13 signifies death and transformation: either let it go or turn it around. 15 symbolizes cold, obsessive, and calculating maneuvers: beware of offers that seem enticing, but risky."}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:30)", "body": "are there any instructions as to knowing what our numbers are?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (13:43)", "body": "Let me check on the net. I have no idea, really! Here's the forecast..... 3/11/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 11 2. day + month: 14 (3 + 11) 3. day + month + year: 16 (3 + 11 + 2+0+0+0) 11 represents excitement and sparks: electricity is in the air. 14 signifies a safeguard or protective shield: seek divine protection and a guiding light. 16 symbolizes unexpected turmoil and problems arriving without warning: persevere the storm and stay clear."}, {"response": 8, "author": "Ree", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (13:54)", "body": "Apart from establishing that I am a chinese cow this numerical stuff doesn't say anything to me."}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (15:02)", "body": "Me too, but it fits in here and apparently there are those out there it does speak to. Told me I am a Mongolian Manatee... *sigh*"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (21:51)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 11, "author": "Ree", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (06:05)", "body": "So...what? We have established that numerology is a bitch?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (16:54)", "body": "Ah, no - it's kabbala. It's difficult. You explain it. ;=}"}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (19:56)", "body": "Yup! Ree, you've converted; now you can explain it to us! (numbers have always been a bitch!)"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (20:00)", "body": "Numerology Numerology is the study of numbers, and the occult manner in which they reflect certain aptitudes and character tendencies, as an integral part of the cosmic plan. Each letter has a numeric value that provides a related cosmic vibration. The sum of the numbers in your birth date and the sum of value derived from the letters in the name provide an interrelation of vibrations. These numbers show a great deal about character, purpose in life, what motivates, and where talents may lie. Experts in numerology use the numbers to determine the best time for major moves and activities in life. Numerology is used to decide when to invest, when to marry, when to travel, when to change jobs, or relocate. I'm not claiming that this website is going to make an expert of you so that all these questions can be answered, but we can at least get you on the way. The first question I asked when numerology was exposed to me was why does it work. The second question was how does it work. Well, if we could answer these questions it wouldn't be an occult study, would it? Is it a God force? Do numbers have vibrations or something like that? Who knows? Just be objective and give it a try. Many believe the history of numerology goes back more than 10,000 years. Pythagoras, the Greek mathematician who live from 569-470 B.C., is said to be the originator of much of what we call numerology today. I suspect more has been written on the subject in this century than in all of the preceding thousands of years. Introduction to numerology attempts to explain the basics of this interesting discipline. It teaches how to change the letters in your name to numbers which reveal much about your personality and potentials. You'll get the feel of the numbers from the thumbnail sketch in the numerology keywords. Next you'll find a worksheet to help get organized and prepared for the task of assembling a complete reading of the numbers in your name and birth date. Following the format template, you'll be able to set up a reading that will include your Life Path number, your Expression number, your Soul Urge, birthday, inner dreams, pinnacles, challenges, gifts and limitations. Your personal year will lend clues as to what kind of a year to expect this year and next. Finally, the Essence of the year will show what is demanding attention in your life and where your personal efforts will be focused. To find which numbers work for you.... http://www.astrology-numerology.com/numerology.html"}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (21:23)", "body": "Introduction to Numerology Numerology is perhaps the easiest of the occult arts to understand and use. All you need is the birth date and the complete name of an individual to unlock all of the secrets that the numbers hold. There are eleven numbers used in constructing Numerology charts. These numbers are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, and 22. Larger numbers that occur from adding the numbers in the complete birth date or from the values assigned to each name, are reduced by adding the digits together until the sum achieved is one of the core numbers. Merely add the components of the larger number together (repeatedly, if necessary) until a single digit (or the \"master\" numbers 11 or 22) results. Each of these number represents different characteristics and expressions. Master number are the only exception to rule of reducing to the single digit. The master numbers 11 and 22 are intensified versions of the single digit number they replace (2 and 4). These numbers suggest a potential for a high degree of learning and/or achievement very often in a more stressful environment. In many individuals, the master numbers operate at a much more tangible or practical level, becoming essentially the same as the single digit parallel. We will also be converting your FULL BIRTH NAME to a number. Letters and numbers you will learn are always one and the same. Here is a chart of the values assigned to each of the letters in our alphabet: A-J-S = 1 B-K-T=2 C-L-U=3 D-M-V=4 E-N-W=5 F-O-X=6 G-P-Y=7 H-Q-Z=8 I-R=9"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (21:30)", "body": "i went and started working on that worksheet (there's a reason it's called a \"work\" sheet)....and quit halfway through, too much math!! *grin* actually saved a copy to print out and will work it later. just for curiosity's sake."}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (21:33)", "body": "I am curious, as well...will work on mine tomorrow while I wait for the laundry to dry! Pi is the 16th letter (P) of the Greek alphabet. In mathematics, it serves as the symbol for the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. Pi is a transcendental number, meaning it will repeat infinitely without ever appearing exactly the same. Pi has been calculated to over 51 billion decimal places with the use of computers. However Pi is usually calculated to 3 digits, 3.14. Therefore, March 14 is Pi day."}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (21:39)", "body": "that's a good one! haha!! and let us not forget the ides of march either *grin*"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (21:43)", "body": "There you go! And, how about St Patrick (the Welshman)'s day?! We're full of goodies at this time of year. Guess you could find any sort of thing with too much idle time and a computer at hand *grin*"}, {"response": 20, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (21:44)", "body": "indeed, your \"this day in history\" should be full for the month of march!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (22:54)", "body": "I get 3 per day on a good day but today just 1 arrived. Oh well...Interesting, though, because they do not dulpicate much. Let's see, there's St George's Day on the 23rd which is the patron saint of England (even though he was Persian if not just a myth)..."}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (12:30)", "body": "The forecast.....3/13/2000 The important numbers are in the low range. This means that today you would have detours and challenges working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 13 2. day + month: 14 (3 + 13) 3. day + month + year: 16 (3 + 13 + 2+0+0+0) 13 represents death and transformation: either let it go or turn it around. 16 signifies unexpected turmoil and problems arriving without warning: persevere the storm and stay clear. 18 symbolizes masquerading the truth: recognize those people or events that are fabricated."}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (12:52)", "body": "ok, well, i just figured out all my numbers but don't know how to use them. also, for those married women who have taken their husband's name (either attached or unattached to their maiden name) use your maiden name when the worksheet calls for your last name (they want birthname)....."}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (14:48)", "body": "Oooh! Good point. Have you looked into that website above? (Musta or you would not have the work sheet!) guess we have to look further on the net for more instructions!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (19:47)", "body": "yeah, and to tell us what to do with all that info (like the pinnacles and challenges, etc.) am going back to that website to see what's up...."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (14:10)", "body": "To Have YOUR Personal Lucky Numbers & Days Charted Visit: http://www.numberpower.com/lucky.html ============================================================ ++---- Numbers Talk ----++ \"There is no such thing as a 'self-made' man. We are made up of thousands of others. Everyone who has ever done a kind deed for us, or spoken one word of encouragement to us, has entered into the make-up of our character and of our thoughts, as well as our success.\" George Burton Adams (1851-1925) American educator, historian +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 3 215 1329 Here's the forecast..... 3/15/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 15 2. day + month: 18 (3 + 15) 3. day + month + year: 20 (3 + 15 + 2+0+0+0) 15 represents cold, obsessive, and calculating maneuvers: beware of offers that seem enticing, but risky. 18 signifies masquerading the truth: recognize those people or events that are fabricated. 20 symbolizes being critical and judgmental: listen to both sides before you make a decision."}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (14:20)", "body": "I am posting the subscribed email in entirety in case there is something in there which might help us understand better (Minus ads) Hi 5 to All My Readers, Thanks for all your mail, and now everyone is curious about the terms described in numerology charts. Compatibility Charts: http://numberpower.com/compat.html Individual Charts: http://numberpower.com/individual.html Gifts: Talents and presents were bestowed to you at birth. These benefits are recognized and derived by the numbers in your chart. For example 26 is the gift of youth. Have A Lucky Day, Anne =========================================================== To Have YOUR Personal Lucky Numbers & Days Charted Visit: http://www.numberpower.com/lucky.html ============================================================ ++---- Numbers Talk ----++ \"It is impossible to underrate human intelligence--beginning with one's own.\" Henry Brooks Adams (1838-1918)American historian, writer +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 4 331 1076 Here's the forecast..... 3/16/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 16 2. day + month: 19 (3 + 16) 3. day + month + year: 21 (3 + 16 + 2+0+0+0) 16 unexpected turmoil and problems arriving without warning: persevere the storm and stay clear. 19 signifies being at the right place at the right time: time is on your side. 21 symbolizes initiating travel for commerce, enjoyment, and international business : set up flexible plans."}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (13:57)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 6 778 1431 Here's the forecast..... 3/17/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 17 2. day + month: 20 (3 + 17) 3. day + month + year: 22 (3 + 17 + 2+0+0+0) 17 represents standing out from the crowd: recognize those unique and exceptional qualities in others. 20 signifies being critical and judgmental: listen to both sides before you make a decision. 22 symbolizes creating a master plan : start from the foundation and work up. +-------------- TIME AFTER TIME --------------+ \"Work expands to fill the time available for its completion.\" Cyril Northcote Parkinson (b. 1909)British historian, noted for humorous works ridiculing bureaucracies *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Your Author is Anne. Born to be a numerologist my birthday 2/22 reflects triple 2's which signifies power, intuition, and analytical expertise. Preparing charts, analyzing data, leading workshops, teaching numerology, writing articles and advice columns, and television and radio spots keep all the numbers on my calendar filled. Looking forward to sharing my knowledge and research with all of my readers. Questions... Comments... email us at: mailto:numbers@shagmail.com"}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (13:12)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 2 113 2419 ------------------------------------------------------------ Here's the forecast..... 3/18/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 18 2. day + month: 21 (3 + 18) 3. day + month + year: 23 (3 + 18 + 2+0+0+0) 18 represents masquerading the truth: recognize those people or events that are fabricated. 21 signifies initiating travel for commerce, enjoyment, and international business : set up flexible plans. 23 symbolizes speculation and risk taking: forge ahead to win, place, or show ."}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 20, 2000 (13:31)", "body": "Monday, March 20, 2000 +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 5 820 1305 ---------------------------------------------------------- Here's the forecast..... 3/20/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you would take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 20 2. day + month: 23 (3 + 20) 3. day + month + year: 25 (3 + 20 + 2+0+0+0) 20 represents being critical and judgmental: listen to both sides before you make a decision. 23 signifies speculation and risk taking: forge ahead to win, place, or show. 25 symbolizes crusading for a cause: gather others to band together. ------------------------------------------------------------ +-------------- TIME AFTER TIME --------------+ \"Eagles don't flock - you have to find them one at a time.\" H(enry) Ross Perot (b. 1930) American business executive, founded Electronic Data Systems *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Your Author is Anne. Born to be a numerologist my birthday 2/22 reflects triple 2's which signifies power, intuition, and analytical expertise. Preparing charts, analyzing data, leading workshops, teaching numerology, writing articles and advice columns, and television and radio spots keep all the numbers on my calendar filled. Looking forward to sharing my knowledge and research with all of my readers."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (14:20)", "body": "\"A Daily Numerological Forecast\" Tuesday, March 21, 2000 +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 6 890 5897 --------------------------------------------------------- Here's the forecast..... 3/21/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you would have take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 21 2. day + month: 24 (3 + 21) 3. day + month + year: 26 (3 + 21 + 2+0+0+0) 21 represents initiating travel for commerce, enjoyment, and international business : set up flexible plans. 24 signifies a magnetic force: drawn to a person or situation. 26 symbolizes fun, sports, and merriment : network with friends and associates."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (12:41)", "body": "\"A Daily Numerological Forecast\" Wednesday, March 22, 2000 +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 4 825 8490 Here's the forecast..... 3/22/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you would take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 22 2. day + month: 25 (3 + 22) 3. day + month + year: 27 (3 + 22 + 2+0+0+0) 22 represents creating a master plan : start from the foundation and work up. 25 signifies crusading for a cause: gather others to band together. 27 symbolizes inspiring others to gain insight: step up to the podium and spread the good word."}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:20)", "body": "\"A Daily Numerological Forecast\" Thursday, March 23, 2000 ------------------------------------------------------------ +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 3 783 2419 Here's the forecast..... 3/23/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you would take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 23 2. day + month: 26 (3 + 23) 3. day + month + year: 28 (3 + 23 + 2+0+0+0) 23 represents speculation and risk taking: forge ahead to win, place, or show . 26 signifies fun, sports, and merriment : network with friends and associates. 28 symbolizes global and enterprising : look at the big picture."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (17:51)", "body": "Everyone knows Barney,... that cute purple dinosaur. But here's something that you may not know: 1. Start with the given: CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR 2. Change all U's to V's (which is proper Latin anyway) CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR 3. Extract all Roman Numerals: CV V L DI V 4. Convert these into Arabic values: 100 5 5 50 500 1 5 5. Add these numbers up: 100 5 5 50 500 1 + 5 ---- 666 There you have it: A mathematical proof that Barney is the Antichrist!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (10:00)", "body": "What about Bill Gates? I've seen a man walking around with a sandwich board exclaiming, \"Bill Gates is the Antichrist.\" He claims he arrived at this mathematically from Gates' name, which is William Henry Gates."}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (13:56)", "body": "I have no idea about Bill Gates. I guess if you hunt hard enough you can find some connection with just about anyone, but this is just my opinion from the outside. I really do not understand the first thing about this topic! Are these posts in numerology useful for anyone? March 25, 2000 +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 1 589 4803 Here's the forecast..... 3/25/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you would take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 25 2. day + month: 28 (3 + 25) 3. day + month + year: 30 (3 + 25 + 2+0+0+0) 25 represents crusading for a cause: gather others to band together. 28 signifies global and enterprising : look at the big picture. 30 symbolizes creative ventures: team up with other inventive souls."}, {"response": 37, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (20:37)", "body": "i've heard that bill gates will be the cause of the beast, which some people think means computers. i don't know, i think we can make anyone an antichrist but there are signs to look for."}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (15:23)", "body": "Indeed, Wolfie. I think the rest are just malicious thinking (or jealousy!) +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 6 303 4445 Here's the forecast..... 3/27/2000 The important numbers are in the very high range. This means that today you would benefit and profit greatly working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 27 2. day + month: 30 (3 + 27) 3. day + month + year: 32 (3 + 27 + 2+0+0+0) 27 represents inspiring others to gain insight: step up to the podium and spread the good word. 30 signifies creative ventures: team up with other inventive souls. 32 symbolizes victory and rewards: cash in your chips."}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 28, 2000 (15:23)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 3 824 8145 Here's the forecast..... 3/28/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 28 2. day + month: 31 (3 + 28) 3. day + month + year: 33 (3 + 28 + 2+0+0+0) 28 represents global and enterprising : look at the big picture. 31 signifies competition and rivalry: outwit your opponent and challenger with style and flair. 33 symbolizes self sacrifice: place other's needs before your own."}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (14:14)", "body": "Numerology for March 29, 2000 +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 5 373 4839 Here's the forecast..... 3/29/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you would take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 29 2. day + month: 32 (3 + 29) 3. day + month + year: 34 (3 + 29 + 2+0+0+0) 29 represents choices and opportunities : keep your options open. 32 signifies victory and rewards: cash in your chips. 34 symbolizes action before thought: fast pace triggers mistakes that could be costly ."}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (13:05)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 3 892 1769 ------------------------------------------------------------ Here's the forecast..... 3/30/2000 The important numbers are in the very high range. This means that today you would benefit and profit greatly working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 30 2. day + month: 33 (3 + 30) 3. day + month + year: 35 (3 + 30 + 2+0+0+0) 30 represents creative ventures: team up with other inventive souls. 33 signifies self sacrifice: place other's needs before your own. 35 symbolizes prosperity and well-being: positive payback for past karmic achievements."}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (13:07)", "body": "Shall I cantinue to post this numerology stuff? I have no idea how to use it and somehow it doesn't capture my imaginatin much... I don't mind, but if it is usless to everybody reading in here, I might as well stop. Suggestions?"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr  1, 2000 (12:30)", "body": "April 1, 2000 +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 3 795 1103 Here's the forecast..... 4/1/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 1 2. day + month: 5 (4 + 1) 3. day + month + year: 7 (4 + 1 + 2+0+0+0) 1 represents new and fresh start: create a more up to date plan. 5 signifies communication and action: keep the ball rolling. 7 symbolizes perfection and excellence: improve your plan by analyzing carefully."}, {"response": 44, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (13:02)", "body": "i don't know how to use it either! maybe we could make an announcement on porch or something...."}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (14:08)", "body": "Yup...if anyone ever reads those beside you and me. If you put it in How's your connection to Sprind it gets linked to Drool...*heh* *heh*"}, {"response": 46, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (14:11)", "body": "April 3, 2000 +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 1 708 5805 Here's the forecast..... 4/3/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 3 2. day + month: 7 (4 + 3) 3. day + month + year: 9 (4 + 3 + 2+0+0+0) 3 represents talkative and scattered: keep the ideas flowing, but write them down. 7 signifies perfection and excellence: improve your plan by analyzing carefully. 9 symbolizes benevolent and humane: keep others needs in mind."}, {"response": 47, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (22:56)", "body": ""}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (16:02)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 1 849 6488 Here's the forecast..... 4/4/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 4 2. day + month: 8 (4 + 4) 3. day + month + year: 10 (4 + 4 + 2+0+0+0) 4 represents structure and systemization: put all your ducks in a row. 8 signifies power and strength: exert your position and status today. 10 symbolizes unpredictable and inconsistent: expect the unforeseen."}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (18:05)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 6 395 8131 Here's the forecast..... 4/5/2000 The important numbers are in the high range. This means that today you take steps forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 5 2. day + month: 9 (4 + 5) 3. day + month + year: 11 (4 + 5 + 2+0+0+0) 5 represents communication and action: keep the ball rolling. 9 signifies benevolent and humane: keep others needs in mind. 11 symbolizes excitement and sparks: electricity is in the air."}, {"response": 50, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr  6, 2000 (19:15)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 6 395 8131 Here's the forecast..... 4/6/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today there would be an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 6 2. day + month: 10 (4 + 6) 3. day + month + year: 12 (4 + 6 + 2+0+0+0) 6 represents communication and action: keep the ball rolling. 10 signifies benevolent and humane: keep others needs in mind. 12 symbolizes excitement and sparks: electricity is in the air."}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr  7, 2000 (14:54)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 6 841 6625 Here's the forecast..... 4/7/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today there would be an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 7 2. day + month: 11 (4 + 7) 3. day + month + year: 13 (4 + 7 + 2+0+0+0) 7 represents perfection and excellence: improve your plan by analyzing carefully. 11 signifies excitement and sparks: electricity is in the air. 13 symbolizes death and transformation: either let it go or turn it around. Copyright 2000 by Pulse Direct, Inc. All rights reserved."}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr  8, 2000 (15:58)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 1 292 9528 Here's the forecast..... 4/8/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today there would be an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 8 2. day + month: 12 (4 + 8) 3. day + month + year: 14 (4 + 8 + 2+0+0+0) 8 represents power and strength: exert your position and status today. 12 signifies an extreme point of view: review other opinions even if they seem far fetched. 14 symbolizes a safeguard or protective shield: seek divine protection and a guiding light."}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 10, 2000 (15:53)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 1 651 3090 Here's the forecast..... 4/10/2000 The important numbers are in the low average range. This means that today there would be some challenges working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 10 2. day + month: 14 (4 + 10) 3. day + month + year: 16 (4 + 10 + 2+0+0+0) 10 represents unpredictable and inconsistent: expect the unforeseen. 14 signifies a safeguard or protective shield: seek divine protection and a guiding light. 16 symbolizes unexpected turmoil and problems arriving without warning: persevere the storm and stay clear."}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 12, 2000 (14:04)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 1 155 9237 ------------------------------------------------------------ Here's the forecast..... 4/12/2000 The important numbers are in the low average range. This means that today there would be some challenges working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 12 2. day + month: 16 (4 + 12) 3. day + month + year: 18 (4 + 12 + 2+0+0+0) 12 represents an extreme point of view: review other opinions even if they seem far fetched. 16 signifies unexpected turmoil and problems arriving without warning: persevere the storm and stay clear. 18 symbolizes masquerading the truth: recognize those people or events that are fabricated."}, {"response": 55, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (15:42)", "body": "Does anyone want me to keep posting these??? +---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 2 378 1131 Here's the forecast..... 4/17/2000 The important numbers are in the average range. This means that today you would have an even balance working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 17 2. day + month: 21 (4 + 17) 3. day + month + year: 23 (4 + 17 + 2+0+0+0) 17 represents standing out from the crowd: recognize those unique and exceptional qualities in others. 21 signifies initiating travel for commerce, enjoyment, and international business : set up flexible plans. 23 symbolizes speculation and risk taking: forge ahead to win, place, or show ."}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 18, 2000 (16:28)", "body": "+---- THE LUCKY NUMBERS FOR TODAY ----+ 2 282 7503 Here's the forecast..... 4/18/2000 The important numbers are in the high average range. This means that today you would have move forward working individually or with others to achieve your goals. The forecast for today influences your alternatives and judgment and creates the tone, motivation, and communication of the day. The 3 important numbers are: 1. day: 18 2. day + month: 22 (4 + 18) 3. day + month + year: 24 (4 + 18 + 2+0+0+0) 18 represents masquerading the truth: recognize those people or events that are fabricated. 22 signifies creating a master plan : start from the foundation and work up. 24 symbolizes a magnetic force: drawn to a person or situation. paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 25, "subject": "Superstitions", "response_count": 36, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (14:13)", "body": "Why is it considered bad luck to walk under a ladder? A ladder leaning against a wall forms triangles, the symbol of the trinity and the mystic number three. It was once believed that to walk through the triangle would be to defy the trinity and be succeptible to the Devil's ploys."}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (17:06)", "body": "excellent topic marcia! thanks for posting it. i do the knock on wood thing because i don't believe in tempting God. and because as soon as one brags the opposite happens quite soon after unless you say something like God Forbid or knock on wood."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (17:11)", "body": "Yup! I always do that and throw salt over my left shoulder if I spill any. Talked about the knock on wood somewhere in Geo..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (17:12)", "body": "(I hoped you would be pleased - I thought about waiting to ask your permission, but I had a post to put somewhere and, like a little kid, I could not resist)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (18:44)", "body": "but i'm glad that you did! maybe we can use it to post the origin of superstitions and experiences of people who have broken them. we already know about borrowing lava from your volcano and i believe that's something i won't test!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (18:59)", "body": "Excellent idea, Wolfie. I'll get that knock on wood whipped into better shape and post it here and hunt up the other ones I can think of. I can post one regarding the bad luck if you take lava from the Mme Pele, the Hawaiian Volcano Godess. My son=the=geologist won't test her ire and I won't either by taking lava off island. I nearly sent you a bottle of olivines (peridots), but am still waiting to hear if they qualify as bad luck bringers. (Your package is beside me all sealed and addressed waiting for a ride to the Post office...tomorrow, hopefully! Anyway, did not want to bring evil upon you so I shall wait till I hear if they qualify as lava. (That's where they come from!)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:04)", "body": "well, don't worry about the peridot then.....*smile*"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:11)", "body": "I was just thinking about that as I wrote. Let me tell you about the little bottle of olivines I took to my Dad in Arizona. He put it on the mantle along with other rock specimens he and I had collected. Shortly after we returned to Hawaii, my mother and dad were out shopping. When they returned home they found the house had been broken into and all of my mother's good jewelry (she did not have much) and that little bottle of peridots-cum-olivines were gone along with my Dad's antique sword which his Father had given to him..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:14)", "body": "yup, let's not test such long-standing superstitions *grin*"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:25)", "body": "here's a website i came upon: http://www.cam.org/~jennyb/super.html"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:26)", "body": "This is a real email I received and I also received the rocks in question back into the protection of the Volcano: I have a question my friend who visited your lovely islands has asked. Of course I have no reply so here goes. When she visited back in June she picked up some black & white sand and a lava rock. Someone told her that these bring bad luck and that the natives believe in its curse. Is it true? Whether yes or no she wants to return them. What do you suggest we could do about it. I don't want to bother you with this but I'd appreciate your help and feed back. She would like to return them as she does feel that things have gone wrong since her return at work and personally. I suggested that she buy a seat sale ticket that airline companies are offering out of Canada and revisit to return them but she hasn't got time right now. Sorry to drag you into this but it's been down-hill for this poor woman"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:26)", "body": "closing my tags...*sigh*"}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:30)", "body": "That is one amazing website. Great stuff, Wolfie - we can just 'borrow' stuff from that website and move it here *grin*"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:34)", "body": "yup, maybe they have a list we can join!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:46)", "body": "Oooh! What a great idea. I am still waiting for someone to join Geo to an appropriate webring. (I know we had this discussion before but I was asked to wait for someone to do it for me...)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:47)", "body": "Then we can maybe entice some new posters into your conference!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:47)", "body": "well, i did mention i could do it for us.....lemme see if they are any good ones out there and i'll let you know *wink*"}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (19:48)", "body": "(and i know of whom you were speaking when you said \"someone\")"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (20:16)", "body": "(*grin* I know you do...*hugs*) We were locked out of the one we wanted and none of the others seemed to be juxt right. I'll have to check again. It has been a while."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr  1, 2000 (12:29)", "body": "It's bad luck to walk under a ladder. This came from the early Christian belief that a leaning ladder formed a triangle with the wall and ground. You must neve r violate the Holy Trinity by walking through a triangle, lest you be considered in league with the devil. (And you all know what good Christians did to people they suspected of being in league with the devil.) Beware of Friday the Thirteenth. Those who know about these things, inform us that Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden on a Friday, Noah's flood started on a Friday, and Christ was crucified on a Friday. Christians also noted that twelve witches plus one devil are present at Satanic ceremonies so Friday and 13 make a deadly combination. God Bless You. During the sixth century, it was customary to congratulate people who sneezed because they were expelling evil from their bodies. Later, when a great plague took hold of Europe, and people began sneezing violently, the Pope passed a law. Since sneezing meant that the person was going to die of plague, people were required to bless the sneezer. Don't spill the salt . Although some people believe that Judas spilt salt during the last supper, this claim can't be proven. Salt was a very precious expensive commodity in the middle ages. It was also used for medicinal purposes. If you spilled any, you must immediately throw it over your left shoulder to strike the nasty spirits in the eye, thus preventing sickness. Black cats are evil . In ancient Egypt, the Goddess Bast, was a black female cat. Christian priests wanted to wipe out all traces of other religions so convinced their ignorant followers to destroy the evil demons that were black cats. While they were at it, they destroyed the kindly little old ladies who cared for the cats believing them to be witches. Pie In The Sky . Of course, this means to search for the impossible dream but it originated in the early 1900's. A famous labor organizer named Joe Hill was extremely critical of the clergy's treatment of slaves. He wrote a tune called 'The Preacher and the Slave\" accusing the clergy of making false promises of a better life in heaven while people starved on earth. The song goes: 'Work and pray, live on hay. You'll get pie in the sky when you die. That's a lie!' Skin Of Your Teeth. This saying means to barely escape from a harrowing situation. It comes from Job 19:20, where God inflicts all sorts of terrible things on one of those who love him. Poor Job had all his animals stolen, his children die, his house collapse and his body covered with sores. Job has this to say; \"My bone cleaveth to my skin and to my flesh, and I am escaped with the skin of my teeth.\" Fleshpot . - Today 'fleshpot' describes decadence. In the time of Moses, it was a large pot in which to boil meat. Somehow, preachers managed to change the meaning to scare their flock about 'sins of the flesh'. To make a scapegoat . - The poor scapegoat gets the punishment for everyone else's mistakes. God condoned this cruelty to animals in Leviticus 16:7-10 \"And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the Lord, and the other for the scapegoat.\" The scapegoat got to escape, and carry the tribe's sins into the wilderness, to be eaten by some animal instead of being offered alive as a sacrifice for the Lord. \"I have heard that the number 13 is unlucky because of the number of attendees of the last supper. I don't have a handy reference however.\" - pbunt@indiana.edu \"I read in a book on superstitions some time ago that the reason we are encouraged to hold our hand over our mouth when we yawn so as not to let the Devil into our mouth.\" - Corey Moore4 - cleo@olywa.net \"Of course I don't have a definitive source to cite, but people in my neck of the wood (So. Cal.) have held that it was once believed that when a person sneezed their soul might be expelled from their body at the same time. Therefore it was necessary to bless the sneezer to keep this from happening. Of course, it doesn't make much sense to bless the sneezer *after* the sneeze, when the soul has had its opportunity for escape, but who said superstitions were logical?\" - Ken Thompson (MonkeyBoy) kthom@earthlink.net \"Friday the 13th is considered unlucky because of the combination of the day with the number: Friday is the Goddess' day, (Frida in Norse, Venus in Latin languages) and 13 is the number of the moon goddess (13 lunations in a solar year). When originally Saturday was the 7th day (of rest) it was Saturn's day, who needed the rest after spending the previous day with the goddess.\" - Kimberly McCrea - First.M.Last@CI.Eugene.OR.US \"Don't forget \"knock on wood\". Supposed to keep the devils living in the wood from hearing your ill-considered idle comments.\" - Bob Vincent - inocent@exis.net \"I believe the Dec 25th also had something to do with Saturnalia, a popular Roman Holiday, and the Dec 21st solstace (Celebrated in many ancient cultures). The Christian fathers were trying to compete with the o"}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr  1, 2000 (12:33)", "body": "Icelandic Superstitions, If sheep gnash their teeth during round-up in the autumn, the winter will be hard. If sheep gnash their teeth somewhere else, it presages very bad weather. If the first calf born during the winter is white, the winter will be a bad one. The first snows of winter are called winter-calves. If these happen early in the season that means the winter will be good. If somebody throws away a dead mouse, the wind will soon start to blow from that direction. Seldom the rains of Saturday last till Sunday Mass. If cows lick trees you can expect rain. The usage of firewood depends on the weather on Maundy Thursday. Good hay drying weather can be expected if a falcon or a merlin sit on a haystack in the field. If your head itches, you can expect wet weather. In late winter it is forbidden to knit on the doorstep, as that is known to lengthen the winter. If someone drops a knife, while cleaning fish, and the knife points to the sea, that presages good fishing when next you go to sea. If someone drops a knife, while cleaning fish, and the knife points to the land, that presages bad fishing when next you go to sea. If something is spilled, a drunken man will soon visit. If you itch in the mouth, you will receive a mouthful of knuckles. If a sick person sneezes three times on a Sunday, that is considered a sign of better health. If you sneeze three times before breaking fast on a Sunday, you will gain something in that week. If it rains when someone moves house, it bodes the wealth of those moving. If you see nine cows in a shed with a gray bull next to the door, and all of them lie on the same side, you are in luck, because you will be granted one wish."}, {"response": 22, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr  1, 2000 (14:48)", "body": "someone has been busy.... bless you when you sneeze, it is said that sneezing causes the heart to stop for a second, which is why a blessing is given. a yawn can allow your soul to escape which is why you cover your mouth."}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr  1, 2000 (14:57)", "body": "Yup! Those are both in the first of the posts of collective superstitions. I am busy because I am bored. John is in Kona to call the game over there which we did not go to see (see what happens when your old man really IS an old man?!)and he is not here to entertain me like he did at last night's game which was like a one-way conversation with me - and very funny at points. Rattling round the Spring. Think I'll look for gems."}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr  1, 2000 (15:48)", "body": "gems.......oooooooohhhhhh......"}, {"response": 25, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (18:16)", "body": "Concerning the entry on the death of the Templar Grand Master, Jacques de Molay. He was burned at the stake on October 13, 1307 by order of the French king, Philip the Fair, (Philippe le Bel)."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "On Friday the 13th, actually!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (04:04)", "body": "That's my wedding anniversary!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (17:44)", "body": "Lucky number for the Celts, you know!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (04:40)", "body": "Well, it didn't do me any harm."}, {"response": 30, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (15:36)", "body": "My parents got married on Friday the 13th."}, {"response": 31, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (15:43)", "body": "Nice to hear I thought we were the only ones!!!!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (15:43)", "body": "My niece was born on Friday the 13th, her bother on Hallowe'en, and her mother on April Fool's Day. Interesting family...that one!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (15:44)", "body": "nice interesting or wierd interesting?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (15:52)", "body": "Kinda off the wall. It is my sister who is the April Fool...nothing at all like me. If anyone in my family had not her feet firmly on the ground, it was her. She can be vastly amusing."}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr  5, 2000 (15:54)", "body": "Here, we say funny peculiar, or funny haha...?!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Apr  8, 2000 (11:23)", "body": "So do we, but I was being circumspect!! paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 26, "subject": "NDE", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 13, 2000 (22:20)", "body": "check out this website: http://www.near-death.com/index1.html it covers near-death experiences from all walks of life and what those people have to tell us. paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 27, "subject": "Ghost Stories", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct  7, 2000 (19:33)", "body": "ok, you shy people out there. i have a story, it's true but i don't know if it was a ghost. back in the mid-80's, i lived in kansas. would hear footsteps on the carpet out in the hall and no one was up. it would be really late at night. i also heard sounds from the basement. i knew that a little boy had died in the house but i never knew much about it. later, i learned that he had hung himself with a drapery cord (accidental) in the basement."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  8, 2000 (00:42)", "body": "If it's ok with you, Wolfie dear, I am gonna paste stories here I have gathered because I have never seen one and I'd like to keep it that way! Did the footsteps scare you???"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct  8, 2000 (15:35)", "body": "pasting is just fine. they did at first but since i heard nothing else, like stuff being moved or whatever, i figured it was the little boy or something (or just a vivid imagination)"}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 27, 2000 (19:27)", "body": "ROAD TRIP 1) Spooky Road Ghost Stories Have you heard about the phantom hitchhiker who vanishes before her destination -- a cemetery? Or, the bright light on a backwoods road that supposedly comes from a ghostly motorcycle? In celebration of Halloween, we've gathered some of the eeriest tales of haunted roads and their often times benevolent spirits. Get spooked on our Halloween road trip! http://wwwrd.0mm.com/map037004"}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (00:46)", "body": "the following is from dave salisbury's \"an occult guide to legendary london\", at this URL: http://members.tripod.co.uk/Brit_Nephilim/page29.html \"Christchurch, Spitalfields During the restoration work following the Great Fire of London, one of Sir Christopher Wren's contemporaries built a string of strange churches across the city. Nicholas Hawksmoor claimed to be following the ancient building traditions of the early Christian basilicas, but his obelisk-like spires and trompe d'oeuil effects have drawn admiration and conspiracy theorists in equal measures. Christchurch, Spitalfields is Hawksmoor's best example. Haunted does not describe the feeling of a church built atop a plague pit, over the road from what used to be the biggest abattoir in the world. A recent excavation of the crypt (now a drop-in centre for homeless alcoholics) unearthed a series of lead lined coffins full of liquefied corpses which archaeologists had to shovel out into bags for analysis. Does lead stop a Nephilim from returning to its stasis? Hmm. If anywhere in London is the site of a Black Moon Ka nexus, it's here.\" then there's this, from \"spoilheap: burial archaeology\", at this URL: http://www.spoilheap.co.uk/burintr.htm \"The period from the beginning of the 16th century has been identified as the start of the modern era and is termed post-medieval by archaeologists. Historians date this change from the reign of Henry VII and his innovations in government. Most of the evidence for this period is historical rather than archaeological, but a few excavations have been carried out in post-medieval churches, notably in London (St. Bride's and Christchurch, Spitalfields) and Holland (Zwolle). Other archaeological methods have been used to record standing monuments in churchyards and other funerary objects. Spitalfields burial in coffins within crypts, often stacked in precarious positions, sometimes even on their heads excavated to recover a group of identifiable burials archaeologically for anthropological study. also provided an insight into 18th and 19th c. crypt burial customs, and a closely dated series of funerary artefacts. allowed for comparison of historical and archaeological data e.g. accounts of contemporary funerals compared with the total disarray of coffins and bodies within the crypts.\""}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (14:22)", "body": "wow, thanks for this, marcia! paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 28, "subject": "Conspiracy Theory", "response_count": 2, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr  3, 2002 (07:50)", "body": "Don't worry, I'll dig something up. Here's a website that let's you make up your own theory by inputting in to their text boxes (a concept, a group, a minority, etc.) http://www.cjnetworks.com/~cubsfan/conspiracy.html Confused about how the world works? Why not make sense of it all with a grand conspiracy theory! However, there are just too many of these floating around. Here, courtesy of Turn Left you can come up with a Wacko Right Wing Conspiracy Theory of your very own. Simply enter your selections, click the button at the bottom of the page and print it out. You'll be the hero of your next militia meeting. Have fun, and remember...They are Watching You!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jan 31, 2005 (03:13)", "body": "That site is still there. paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 29, "subject": "Faeries", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug  4, 2003 (22:29)", "body": "ok, the dude putting together the sundance documentary on fairies was actually moved to accept the idea of them. he suggested that as adults, the fairies of our childhood become alien and ufo theories. i found the film insightful and a wonderful idea that what we believe in our childhood doesn't have to be totally lost just because we become rational (i use this term loosely) adults. do fairies run along the lines of angels? there are people that will hurt you if you put down angel theories. albeit, fairies aren't mentioned in the Bible like angels are but could they be the same? paraspring conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 3, "subject": "Websites of Interest", "response_count": 38, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (22:24)", "body": "International Society for Paranormal Research http://www.hauntings.com/"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (22:27)", "body": "The Underground Paranormal Stories Exchange Network http://www.paranormalnetwork.com/"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (09:03)", "body": "Winged Wolf's Home Page http://www.angelfire.com/wy/WingedWolf/"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (11:03)", "body": ""}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (11:06)", "body": "k. but why is the html code showing up? and can we put the banner in the conference header? (you've been doing a lot of work for this conference-thanks!!)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (11:06)", "body": ""}, {"response": 7, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (11:08)", "body": "because of the automatic text breaks... that's why I scribbled out my responses... and, of course! I'll get on it right now..."}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (11:12)", "body": "and you did. you're so good! *hugs*"}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (13:22)", "body": "test your psychic abilities here: http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506/epsi/html"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "http://www.csicop.org/home.html"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (10:10)", "body": "how could we have forgotten http://www.mufon.com/ and when in Denver, http://www.net1comm.com/~COMUFON1/"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (10:21)", "body": "and visit The Black Vault http://216.22.198.135/ Welcome to The Black Vault, your premier source for government documents pertaining to a vast array of subjects.\ufffd You are entering a database that is one of a kind on the world of the Internet, and a database in which you can not find anywhere else.\ufffd The Black Vault is not much of a web site, but an online research center for curious minds, students, and everyone alike.\ufffd What is it? The Black Vault is a site created by myself, John Greenewald, Jr. (a 17 year old Senior at Alemany High School), to better inform the public of what is going on within the secret walls of the United States Government. I have archived here my collection of what I have found pertaining to various subjects such as: UFO\ufffds, Top Secret Military Aviation, Biological Weapons, Nuclear Weapons, and many more!\ufffd The one of a kind database you will find here are government documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. What makes this database so unique? The fact that the documents are scanned online, and are kept in image form (downloadable images).\ufffd This site is the result of over 2 and one half years of research into the vast government archives, and online you can find my results.\ufffd You will find my initial letter to the government agency, their response, and the documents themselves. Open your mind to the unknown.\ufffd What you find here will make you think, and make the unbelievable become believable.\ufffd Relax... enjoy... and welcome to the one place where the government \"secrets\" become KNOWN."}, {"response": 13, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:45)", "body": "oh? and how does a 17 year old get a hold of government documents?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:45)", "body": "hacks???"}, {"response": 15, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:55)", "body": "that and claiming foia doesn't really mean much. anyone can call it foia to get documents. so i'm not impressed. i'll go there and see just what he's got...."}, {"response": 16, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (17:56)", "body": "woo woo... you GO girl!!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar  5, 1999 (23:47)", "body": "\"i'll go there and see just what he's got....\" you say that about all the guys don't you, Wolf?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  6, 1999 (11:01)", "body": "*wink* here's a basic definition of FOIA and it's from http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/introduc.htm The Freedom of Information Act(1) generally provides that any person has a right, enforceable in court, of access to federal agency records, except to the extent that such records (or portions thereof) are protected from disclosure by one of nine exemptions or by one of three special law enforcement record exclusions. Enacted in 1966, the FOIA established for the first time an effective statutory right of access to government information. The principles of government openness and accountability underlying the FOIA, however, are inherent in the democratic ideal: \"The basic purpose of [the] FOIA is to ensure an informed citizenry, vital to the functioning of a democratic society, needed to check against corruption and to hold the governors accountable to the governed.\"(2) The Supreme Court has emphasized that \"[o]fficial information that sheds light on an agency's performance of its statutory duties falls squarely within that statutory purpose.\"(3) basically, what it says is that things that are not detrimental to national security can be asked for using FOIA. so, whatever this kid thinks he's reading, well, he's not going to get anything in black and white because if any such thing exists, it's definately NOT releasable under FOIA. i went to his website and found it interesting and very well set up. so it does pertain to this conference, but, i'd rather visit mufon."}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar  6, 1999 (11:39)", "body": "you...you don't trust me, Wolf? *sniff*"}, {"response": 20, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar  6, 1999 (15:52)", "body": "no, i didn't say the site wasn't worthy, i do trust you deary....sorry that i got on a rampage about this site. it is of interest and will stay here. *hug* better now?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Mar  7, 1999 (00:20)", "body": "*grin* something like that... so, whatcha think about the other stuff I did in here?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar  7, 1999 (11:18)", "body": "what other stuff? i saw the electrified orbs and the statement at the bottom of the screen about an angel satyr (which i don't get).....did you do other stuff i've not noticed yet?"}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (00:11)", "body": "yep...your horizontal bars are different... (they're longer and skinnier)"}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (17:30)", "body": "hey, they are!! (now explain the satyr angel for me)"}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (17:46)", "body": "there's a saytr angel running round your conference..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar  9, 1999 (00:17)", "body": "written in the diary of Reverend Francis Kilvert (1840-1879) on 20 June 1871 are the words: \"An angel satyr walks these hills.\" thought it would look nifty if I changed the words \"these hills.\" to \"this conference...\" that's about it really"}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 10, 1999 (12:14)", "body": "k, thanks for satisfying my curiosity!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Mar 10, 1999 (12:23)", "body": "you're sated already?!?!?!?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 10, 1999 (17:04)", "body": "no....not really, but i didn't want to push for further details!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Mar 10, 1999 (18:10)", "body": "push, push away!!! (i'm just an eager spectator!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "(got this in an e-mail today...) Greetings Fae lovers, Just thought I'd let you know I have a\"Fae Magic\" page with law and enchantments, stories and pics, a recipe for Elderberry wine. Fae charms, tree, herb, flower info and bewitchments... Please visit the Fae at; \" Moons Fae Magic\" http://www.inch.com/~bmorris/fae.html"}, {"response": 32, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (15:48)", "body": "i liked it!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr  4, 1999 (11:33)", "body": "Esoteric Numerology http://www.gis.net/~darkone9/index/num1.html"}, {"response": 34, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (21:04)", "body": "you can help analyze space radio data from your home computer for free. check it out at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/index.html i've got it running on my system at home......"}, {"response": 35, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (08:16)", "body": "Terry's got a topic up for this too over in software... maybe I'll get it linked to this conference sometime..."}, {"response": 36, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (08:40)", "body": "it's way cool! it works without interfering with anything you're working on. you only need the internet when you first open the program and then you can log off and it analyzes the signals until you tell it to quit. i have no idea what i'm looking at but it's neat!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (12:40)", "body": "This is a must go see site: http://www.thrall.org/paranormal/"}, {"response": 38, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jun  2, 1999 (08:14)", "body": "http://www.deoxy.org/recip.htm paraspring conference Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 4, "subject": "Angels", "response_count": 19, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (19:08)", "body": "a wonderful book on the subject is Angels: An Endangered Species by Malcolm Godwin wonderful artwork of angels throughout the ages plus other information on what is known about them including the heirarchy in the first, second, third, and fourth wings. though i haven't read the work in its entirety, it is very well done."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (01:05)", "body": "So, what are your favorite angel movies, Madam Hostess?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (01:06)", "body": "and/or television shows, of course..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (13:59)", "body": "i like touched by an angel even though i cry after every episode. my sunday's have been extremely too busy so i haven't seen it in awhile. then there was ghost, the movie. of course, love patrick swayze, so what can i say or need i say more?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr  3, 1999 (22:45)", "body": "Say no more, say no more."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (23:04)", "body": "I trust we can finally say more...with the host's permission. I loved the movie 'Michael' with *gasp* John Travolta, whom I normally do not deign to watch. It was a really cute movie and I enjoyed it...about The ArkAngel Michael...on earth in present day. Did anyone else see this?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (02:20)", "body": "'Michael' was GREAT! I loved it - I love John Travolta! Another good angel thing is a video I saw at a friends - a documentary about the role angels have played in history and in art in different cultures. That was really interesting."}, {"response": 8, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (02:34)", "body": "Clarence in \"It's a Wonderful Life\" is my favorite movie angel. I also love \"Touched By an Angel.\" Maybe it's Roma Downey, the redhaired Irish actress who plays Monica that I love. I've also always been a big fan of the multitalented Della Reese. I hope the real angel of death is as sweet and non-threatening as Andrew (played by John Dye)."}, {"response": 9, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (21:19)", "body": "BE AN ANGEL! This is a really terrific thing. The Hunger Site at the U.N. This is a really cool website. All you do is click a button and somewhere in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat at no cost to you. The food is paid for by corporate sponsors. All you do is go to the site and click. But, you're only allowed one click per day so spread the word to others. Visit the site and pass the word. http://www.thehungersite.com"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (00:31)", "body": "I just heard that \"Michael\" with John Travolta will have its network debut on October 3 - not sure which station. Tomorrow evening!!!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "moonbeam", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (00:57)", "body": "I watch practically no TV -- except for \"Touched By An Angel\" (which my darling but cynical youngest child, 16, calls \"touched in the head\"). I even watch it during every weeknight in reruns on the PAX channel. As for angel movies -- how about \"City of Angels\" with Nicholas Cage? I saw it twice and would see it again. I liked \"Michael\" too -- thanks for the tip that it's coming up tomorrow, Marcia. (Perhaps after TBAA?) John, I agree with you about Clarence... And what is the name of that Christmas movie that has the angel Gideon, sitting in the tree? He was the only thing about that film I liked. :)"}, {"response": 12, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (01:01)", "body": "I don't know what movie that may be, but I loved MAD magazine's parody, \"Tetched by an Angel.\""}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (01:26)", "body": "It is a GREAT movie, and I don't particularly like John Travolta...he plays the angel Michael...very cute movie - think you'd enjoy it. Don't remember \"tetched by an angel\"...but it was doubtless great from the genius that is MAD"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (01:31)", "body": "Nan! What a pleasure to see you here! I shall be on the watch for Michael and check the Sunday morning TV section for the network carrying it. Will post it here!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (03:18)", "body": "When I said I didn't know, I was referring to the Christmas movie Nan alluded to, with Gabriel sitting in a tree, not Michael, which I saw and was not particularly impressed by, although I do like Travolta."}, {"response": 16, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (03:20)", "body": "Travolta's wife, actress Kelly Preston (Jerry Maguire, For Love of the Game), was born and raised in Honolulu, and graduated from Punahou High School, one of America's ten most prestigious private preparatory academies."}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (14:23)", "body": "I looked through the entire week TV listings (which does not list movies separately, and we do not get Bravo out here) and did not see \"Michael\" listed. Has anyone else found it? Please let us know if you have and what network/channel is showing it. Mahalo!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "moonbeam", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (14:53)", "body": "Marcia, thanks for the welcome! :) I looked through the Yahoo! listings for movies today and Michael's not there."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "Unfortunately, where I saw the ad for \"Michael\" was a special channel our cable company opened just to show the UH football game to our island last night, and they ran all sort of ads for PPV and other premium channels offerings upcoming. I only saw \"Michael\" mentioned once - and the only thing I caught was \"...its network premier\" I thought by that it meant the commercial networks, but i checked through all of the cable station offerings. If I see more, I will post it. paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 5, "subject": "Ghosts", "response_count": 12, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, May  2, 1999 (12:50)", "body": "what if ghosts are time travellers?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, May  2, 1999 (14:02)", "body": "i dunno...maybe they got stuck somewhere during their trip.... i remember as a kid, i lived in a house with a basement and i swear i heard footsteps down there and footsteps in the hallway. a little boy had accidentally hung himself in the basement long before we moved in there. i was probably just a paranoid teenager!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "Ghosts would have to be time travellers to manafest themselves in 1999 when theyt died hundreds of years ago. There are even Roman soldier ghosts in Britain. Hawaii has its own brand of Ghosts, all of whom I hope never to meet."}, {"response": 4, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (02:27)", "body": "I thoroughly believe in ghosts. After my granddad had died, he used to come to our room when things were hard; one could feel him like an invisible force stroking your hair and face, and smell him, and my sister and I got the sensation at exactly the same time - it can't have been imagination. It was very comforting to know he wasn't DEAD dead; he just ceased existing in the physical sense. I'm sure it helped us deal with the whole thing far more healthily than would have been the case had he not com . I love the idea of ghosts. Last year we went to Northern England, we left the kids with Chris' sister, and went to York for one night. At 8 in the evening we did the famous ghost walk - it was freezing, the wind was howling around the corners and through the narrow street, and we were thoroughly entertained. It was so ridiculously scary we were giggling like a pair of nervous kids!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (08:09)", "body": "I, too, absolutely believe in ghosts. My dad had a friend whose house always had something strange going on in it--cold spots, footsteps, sounds as if a large amount of silverware had fallen into the floor, etc. That house completely gave me the creeps. One night after visiting, I came home and had a nightmare about being in the same room with a corpse of a man who had drowned, so I think that was the person who was haunting the house. And what kind of ghosts does Hawaii have, Marcia? It sounds very interesting!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:46)", "body": "Not kindly ones, I'm afraid. They are more like the vengeful types who afflict people building their homes on Native American burial grounds. Alii also march. You do not want to see them or to hear them. We used to hear nose-flute music (a native Hawaiian instrument) when my son and I were in some remote area of the Island - particularly at eruptions. Not all that comforting!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:36)", "body": "Whoa, that's cool! I'll bet Hawaii is the only state which has its own type of ghosts!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:43)", "body": "...and the only state song which extolls the virtues of their monarch...and the only throne room...we are, indeed, unique!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:45)", "body": "Those Hawaiian ghosts are called Night Marchers, and as I write this at noon, I have \"chicken skin\" all over!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "When I was little, I didn't even know that Hawaii was a part of the United States because it seemed far too different from Missouri(where I'm from) to be in the same country. So, Hawaii doesn't have \"ordinary\" ghosts? (If there is such a thing.) You know, cold spots and mysterious noises in houses?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:55)", "body": "Now that there are more and more non-Hawaiians here there are Japanese ghosts (Obake), the usual Western culture ones and probably other cultural specialties. It is interesting how culture dictates the type of hauntings one experiences. BTW, it is death to look at Night Marchers!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (17:56)", "body": "*lol* Amy. It is still a sad fact that many Americans do not know we are the 50th state! paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 6, "subject": "Abductions", "response_count": 14, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (19:07)", "body": "like the hip abduction machine in the fitness center... it takes me all the time. roughs me up and makes me sore."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (23:40)", "body": "kinda like, for me, trying to decide which response to make here?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (12:22)", "body": "a struggle, eh?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (13:50)", "body": "Oh, a struggle! Come over everybody, they look like they finally slug it out! GO, KIDDIES! GO! (Not enough that Stacey had lately been abducted, and when she came to, she didn't understand the language of the people around her... and was in a beautiful castle... Pfffrt, I don't believe this Brandon-Story one second! Now we got proof! No more cover-ups! It's all here on the SPRING, for the world to see! THEY are among us!)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (19:55)", "body": "(THEY are us)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (19:57)", "body": "(and somebody help this place if Stacey and I ever slug it out on here...scary...)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (22:20)", "body": "*laugh*"}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (17:00)", "body": "Where'd everybody go??? Hello?? Hello???"}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (18:03)", "body": "i'm still hanging around!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (18:43)", "body": "Whew... I thought you were abducted with the rest!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (12:14)", "body": "No no, you alone were abducted! And to cover it up, they imprinted you with some fancy dream stuff extracted from your subconscious whatever-you-got-there-thingus. And then you woke up in a distant and strange place, and the first thing abductees typically say is \"Yeeees?\", so that's what you said to the next innocent bystander..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (12:17)", "body": "*laugh* so it was all a farce??? How do you explain the ring?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (12:27)", "body": "Obvious: Tracking device. Just put something glitzy on a ring and they lose their wits... Works all the time..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (12:37)", "body": "ahhh... *mesmerized* yessssss... paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 7, "subject": "Lycanthropy", "response_count": 12, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (14:40)", "body": "i promise i'm not a werewolf!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (23:38)", "body": "she's all wolf, all the time!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (23:16)", "body": "Would it not be incredible to be able to shape-shift? I'd never come back to this all-legs and long neck and slim waisted body...hmmmm...maybe I would...!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (02:31)", "body": "I would want to be able to shape-shift to become a freak. That way, when I turned into me again, I'd be gladder of the way I look, instead of always thinking, $hit, I wish I were tall, I wish I didn't have AUBURN hair, wish I didn't look so this and so that."}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:16)", "body": "i wouldn't want to change into anything else. at least i know how this body works!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "Good point! *lol* ...it has taken long enough to figure mine out!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:25)", "body": "(hi marcia! *hugs*)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:51)", "body": "Hi Wolfie *hugs* (Gotta figure out how to get some interest in Geo going...looks like ParaSpring is flowing again!)"}, {"response": 9, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (02:57)", "body": "Hey, did any of you see Zelig? THat's a perfect example. What an extraordinary movie!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (23:06)", "body": "I adored Zelig - the funniest Woody Allen movie of them all. It was great! Yes!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (08:57)", "body": "Your remember the scene with a raving Hitler, and Allen, this obnoxious little Jew standing next to him, waving at his love?? And then where Hitler turns around, and growls at him. I was wetting myself!!! I also find it an incredibly deep movie."}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct  3, 1999 (22:42)", "body": "I felt so incredibly sorry for him in some of the scenes...I think most people viewed it superficially, but there was nothing superficial about it! Very deep, indeed paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 8, "subject": "Which mental ability would you like to have?", "response_count": 29, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (14:15)", "body": "duh, that should be remote viewing... so, I guess, the one I'd like to have would be coherency..."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (20:56)", "body": "or confidence..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (15:41)", "body": "No headaches."}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (16:14)", "body": "i'm with you man!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (08:21)", "body": "And I'm with them all my life."}, {"response": 6, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (09:45)", "body": "get em bad do you Alexander?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (11:48)", "body": "exedrin extra strength actually works on mine. i don't know if they're sinus, migraine or what, all i know is they hurt big time."}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (15:37)", "body": "doubtful they're migraines if you're having such success with Excedrin but if they're chronic go get your head checked out by a doc... shouldn't have chronic headaches period... stress, sinus, brain tumor... go head your head examined please!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (17:46)", "body": "hmmmm......"}, {"response": 10, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (05:06)", "body": "...doesn't harm, they could find out amazing things! I'm already curious... (I went through this, too. \"Nothing wrong\", the kidder in the white coat said...)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (09:50)", "body": "you get headaches every single day, alex?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (09:57)", "body": "Depends on the weather. Changes in air pressure is really bad. Spring or fall makes me have them sometimes for weeks in a row. One of the things one's gotta live with. Anyway, I seldom have these all-over pains, it's nearly exclusively the frontal lobes. Sometimes extreme light sensitivity comes with it. Seldom that audio stuff pains me, but happens, too. I used to think I'd end like Wolf Larsen. Well, I never got *that* strong, not by half..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (09:58)", "body": "...neither did I ever get a sail to my boat."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "sounds like sinus with the pressure thing....hmmm...you've seen a doc, right?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:48)", "body": "allergies?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (11:03)", "body": "No. Or no serious ones. It's just things inside the fuzzbox on my shoulders."}, {"response": 17, "author": "RochelleW", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (15:57)", "body": "Hey, Alexander. Sounds like the same stuff I used to have. Walk outside from AC to humid weather and it feels like you got kicked in the face? The ENT doc said that's a classic symptom of deformed sinuses. They did a CATScan and found the middle turbanate curled one way in front then reversed the curl as it moved into the center of my head. When the slightest stuffiness would hit they would block everything. In addition, allergies triggered sinus headaches. The two combined would trigger a massive igrain - light and sound sensitive - hurt so much you just wanted to die and get it over with. After the surgery, things got better. Then found out carrots caused headaches too (allergies). Then found a herb, feverfew, that taken daily helped keep the blood vessels in the brain from constricting which is what the migrain actually was. So I still get bad headaches that may last a few hours, but it's nothing like the pike through the eye with the head split open feelling of the migrains that would last for a week or more at a time. So please go check with an ear-nose-throat specialist. They can do wonders. Rochelle"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (22:56)", "body": "I'd like better to see myself...know when I am going to do something stupid before I actually do it so I can correct it...and remote viewing is also a great thing, if used right. I could sure use some right now...!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (02:37)", "body": "I should like to be able to cure headaches for one thing. But never to read people's thoughts. What is remote viewing? Is that when you can see into the future? It must be cool - but it is probably not a selective thing, so I don't want that one."}, {"response": 20, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (15:34)", "body": "Rochelle, that sounds interesting. Gonna track weather to headache, see if it correlates. But working w/ these screens might be some cause, too. I'd like to get a single sober thought through my head once in a while, and be able to communicate it."}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (15:55)", "body": "Remote viewing is sending your mind here and now (not future) to some place other than where you are physically. The US military trained some remote viewers to \"go\" into building and walk down halls and into rooms to see what was going on, or examine facilities - factories that may be making war materials under the guise of food manufacture, for instance."}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (15:56)", "body": "Alexander, you have done so (had sober thoughts) many times - I have the email to prove it!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:19)", "body": "remote viewing is also found with children who are abused. they take themselves somewhere else."}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:28)", "body": "I knew they removed their minds from the abuse but never thought about it being remote viewing. Interesting!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:32)", "body": "maybe it's not considered remote viewing, but they teleport their minds elsewhere to protect themselves."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:36)", "body": "Indeed...then it takes years and great trauma to get it back into the conscience mind to come to terms with it. Not sure if that is a good thing or not..."}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:38)", "body": "we do what we have to at the time...."}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct  1, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "It's called surviving, however it works..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct  2, 1999 (02:58)", "body": "Surviving is good. paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}, {"num": 9, "subject": "UFO/Alien Theories", "response_count": 30, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (19:28)", "body": "unidentified flying object: could be anything that you don't recognize at first. but what about ufo's that don't turn out to be balloons escaping from the hands of children? found a neat website where you can report sightings and catch up on all the latest ufo information...the center for ufo sightings.... http://www.cufos.org/"}, {"response": 2, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Feb 23, 1999 (11:05)", "body": "Wolf, have you been watching too much X-Files? :-)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (00:44)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (01:55)", "body": "oooh ooh! I LOVE this stuff!!!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (01:43)", "body": "yep, it's your colors, huh?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (01:55)", "body": "is it possible to be an alien and not know it? (theoretically i mean)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (01:58)", "body": "you will, in theory I believe, eventually know, but there can be large periods of \"amnesia\""}, {"response": 8, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (02:06)", "body": "yes yes i think i know what you mean (though i cannot be sure)"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (02:08)", "body": "at least not yet..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Thu, Feb  7, 2036 (02:15)", "body": "that will ultimately make everything clear(er)>"}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (14:48)", "body": "new glasses might help too! I prefer the rose tint"}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:21)", "body": "noticed that, myself..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (08:51)", "body": "ok, not to panic anyone or anything, but i just saw the strangest thing in the sky. 1950 (7:50PM), 28 Apr 99, clear sky, 4 white cylinder looking crafts moved slowly across the sky heading north (coming from the south). they looked like aircraft bodies without wings. my neighbor and i were outside when they flew by. they were moving slowly and i didn't see any wings nor hear any sound. so what in the hell were they? i'm on cnn right now and nothing (you know how they know everything). these things were going the same direction. i've never seen aircraft passively flying by like that befor . soon after, i did see a regular aircraft fly by at approximately the same height and left an airtrail and wings could be seen. got any ideas? so until i can figure out what they were, they're ufo's!!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (09:56)", "body": "Blimps? They work on a lighter-than-air device called Cargo Lifter - a proper airship Zeppelin style... Also, the military has stub-winged recon-drones that got some more publicity as these unmanned devices are used to do recon in e.g. Kosovo. Look like cruise missiles, but move much slower. If they were proper UFO's , they'd be unmanned to, right? 'Coz they'd be *aliened*!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (11:32)", "body": "well, they were darned slow to me...ufo's are manned and oh, wait, i get it, they're aliened, right? haha!!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May  1, 1999 (15:30)", "body": ";=}"}, {"response": 17, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (20:29)", "body": "1955 (7:55PM) 20 May 99 Saw one white cylinder object as before (28 Apr) heading in the same S to N direction. Had time to fetch my binoculars and saw two wings on the vessel, only they were pretty short in comparison to the flying vehicle. Once again, no flying trail was left behind and there were numerous other identifiable aircraft in the area. This object was flying below their altitude. pretty spooky, huh?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (08:17)", "body": "you're gonna hafta get yo'self a video camera, Wolfsie..."}, {"response": 19, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (08:36)", "body": "no joke!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (08:55)", "body": "satellite sattalite sattelite (how in the fudge do you spell the frickin word??????)"}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (10:04)", "body": "that low, though? your first spelling was correct, even though it looks funny!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (16:01)", "body": "perhaps it was outta orbit and preparing to crash soundly into the gator pool!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (16:14)", "body": "haha!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (17:21)", "body": "\"Satellite of Love, Satellite of Love, Set - a - light of...\" Remember this?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (18:29)", "body": "nope. clue me in..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (20:08)", "body": "1940 (7:40 PM CST) 21 May 99 Lone white cylinder vehicle crossed the sky again. This time I got two pictures, but my camera doesn't have zoom, so you'll only see a dot and me going \"this was it, see!\" I could make out wings and one aileron (or however that's spelled). No distinguishing marks, sounds, nor lights."}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (20:17)", "body": "ok, saw another one just now and really got a good look at it through the binoculars. it's an aircraft, definately (and not a top secret military plane nor a ufo). well, so much for that excitement!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (21:44)", "body": "maybe the last one was just a governmental decoy..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (08:59)", "body": "i'll post the pics as soon as they're developed and you'll see for yourself!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 29, 1999 (05:46)", "body": "Stacey - response #24: Go through your Lou Reed records, I think it was on the second one (the one with \"Walk on the Wild Side\"). If you don't have any records by Lou, get Mr B. to include buying all of them together with the subscription in the contract. paraspring conference | Main Menu An angel satyr walks this conference..."}]}]}