border=0 means that the image doesn't have a nasty coloured border around it src=\"...\" tells the Spring where the image is coming from. the Babes header is stored in my own web space at www.griggs.demon.co.uk/, in the images/ directory, and is called \"babes_small.gif\". It is probably a good idea for terry to set you up with a Spring shell account, which means that you can store any images you need in a www.spring.net directory. you'd best get in touch with him via e-mail to do that. and that's it for that bit. i'll leave it to wer to tell you how to change your background colours/images, since i still can't get it to work!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (13:32)", "body": "whoops. that little box should read tag goes particularly well with plain white. how about something plain, but with a distant \"spring.net\" in it? that's what i've tried out here, and the first results are OK. dunno if that's the best solution, though. try the white. see what it looks like. i'll try it here, too."}, {"response": 33, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:35)", "body": "two things. firstly, the white looks nasty, imho. how about a light blue? i've dialed up #22ccdd here, and it looks quite nice - restrained, and compliments the darker blue links to confs etc. secondly, can anyone supply me with a decent fixedwidth font? the standard one i have is courier, and it's bloody horrible. i'm now using typewriter something or other, which is better, but a bit spaceage and weird looking."}, {"response": 34, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:39)", "body": "i've found the code which produces the main page. or rather, the template. however, it's a bit CGI-ey and scarey, so adding the \"shortcut\" box may be a little difficult. or at least tricky."}, {"response": 35, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:41)", "body": "i think it's time i learnt perl..."}, {"response": 36, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (23:04)", "body": "the place up in Michigan uses the dialog box for conferences, went and got their code today, just haven't had time to do any experiments with it yet...let me find the cool font site, and get the url to you Mike so you can picka one for yourself... the light blue is fine by me..."}, {"response": 37, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (01:51)", "body": "You guys are beginning to frighten me! Sounds like you speak some secret language all the time."}, {"response": 38, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (09:32)", "body": "hehe :))"}, {"response": 39, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (10:33)", "body": "wer, wouldja post that cool font site? puhleeeeeeze!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (00:20)", "body": "this is a link page to tons o' font sites... http://members.tripod.com/~service97/sf-font.html happy hunting!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (07:23)", "body": "Just thought I'd put in a couple of comments about colors and fonts on the web. Both of these are browser dependent so there are some real limititations to what you can do with them. The only fonts that will appear on a web page are the ones that are supported by your browser when you look at the options selection for fonts. And what is supported by your browser may not be supported by the rest of the people looking at the page. If you want to be sure everyone is seeing the same thing, it is best to l ok for something that is universal (Times New Roman - boring but everyone has it - for example). The way to get around this is to put the font you want to use into a graphic (a .gif or .jpg) and then put the graphic on your page. Colors, too, vary from browser to browser. The colors which are consistent across all platforms can be found on the web. One such site is: http://www2.jens.com/~selkirk/courses/toolbox/style/colors2.html Hope you don't mind my butting in, but I thought a couple of tips might be helpful if you are just starting off."}, {"response": 42, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (18:08)", "body": "no butting done here, thanks for the info!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (19:47)", "body": "the comment was made about non-proportional fonts, to be used locally, to replace my rather boring Courier used for the
info"}, {"response": 44, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (20:05)", "body": "well, seems no matter what i do to the font front command, it stays the same (at my website)"}, {"response": 45, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (20:19)", "body": "let me know if I can help. the way to change the non-prop font globally is to use the Options in your browser (e.g. Netscape. Options menu/General Preferences/Fonts). i can't remember how to change the non-prop font with an HTML tag, although I do remember it's possible. might be worth looking that one up (time I got myself a list of all the HTML tags and options, I think)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (20:43)", "body": "well, while i've got you here *heehee* can you tell me what the code is to change background color? i've tried the standard html code but it doesn't work here. am i supposed to go into the rc file or what?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (21:00)", "body": "as a conference host? if you're a conference host, you need to edit the rc file - i think the additions needed are in \"Creating a host help-pack\", so look in there. if you mean in general, then you can't - it's fixed in the software until we can convince terry to change it for us :)"}, {"response": 48, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (21:26)", "body": "hmmm...a thought. some people seem to have worked out the rather intricate URLs needed to link to another conference/topic/posting, while others haven't. how about something in the HTML interpreter commandy thing which allows easy linking to another conf/topic/posting? something like : Well, if you look in [topic::23] you'll find the info, with [topic::23] being turned into an HTML link to that topic? that one's probably better passed onto the YAPP people themselves, i guess."}, {"response": 49, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (21:55)", "body": "yeah, as a conference host. ok, i'll have to go look in there!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (13:05)", "body": "We need a conference manager! Anyone want to nominate someone or volunteer. Does require some basic knowledge of Yapp and UNIX."}, {"response": 51, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (13:19)", "body": "ummm me? :-)))"}, {"response": 52, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (14:46)", "body": "Okay, okay, no need to go through the embarassing asking business. Sure I'll DO it, Terry."}, {"response": 53, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (17:08)", "body": "sign me up, also, I guess..."}, {"response": 54, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (17:18)", "body": "We can have more than one. There will be a discussion of how this works in email, at least, the technical details."}, {"response": 55, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (19:16)", "body": "before i answer, what is a conference manager?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (01:22)", "body": "Hey, hey, I wasn't serious!!!! I know bugger-all about Yapp and that sort of crap. Mike and Wer and Wolf coud be conference managers - I'll just bust your screens."}, {"response": 57, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (01:23)", "body": "Wouldn't mind being conference manager though if I could be the one to tell people to stop swearing . . ."}, {"response": 58, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (08:21)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 59, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (13:11)", "body": "That's MY job... *grin*"}, {"response": 60, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (13:20)", "body": "I thought your job was... *hopeful grin*"}, {"response": 61, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (14:26)", "body": "Actually that's her game . . ."}, {"response": 62, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (23:46)", "body": "Got it! anyway, got your blue suggestion working in news, Mike, so very body go by and see what you think...of course, come back here and share those thoughts, por favor..."}, {"response": 63, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (14:02)", "body": "nice one :) i'll drop by."}, {"response": 64, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (14:03)", "body": "well, yeah, it's ok. what does everyone else think?"}, {"response": 65, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (15:56)", "body": "purty..."}, {"response": 66, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (18:25)", "body": "any chance of us getting the code over for both the frames and the \"goto conference\" shortcut box, wer? anyone else?"}, {"response": 67, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (22:15)", "body": "not sure...gotta ask Terry as I don't have write permission..."}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (05:38)", "body": "Email jeff@spring.net. He's our system admin type guy. He was just here earlier this evening. He can fix you up. By the way, Jeff is building a Kick Butt new spring machine. Pentium, 64mb ram, 8 gb hard drive, etc. We're gonna test it for a spell before we put it on line. But it could be our new conferencing, website box."}, {"response": 69, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (10:32)", "body": "Jeff must be a very, very clever man."}, {"response": 70, "author": "jeff", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (17:08)", "body": "I have no response to that..."}, {"response": 71, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (23:57)", "body": "a dollar says you do..."}, {"response": 72, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (01:12)", "body": "Let the man be modest if he wants to be modest, Wer. Suppose your argument would now be that it is hard to be honest AND modest at the same time . . . !"}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (01:24)", "body": "Jeff says the machine is up now and lookin' good so far. We're gonna test it for a spell before we put anything critical on it."}, {"response": 74, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (04:15)", "body": "sounds brill :)) I built my own p166 system here, so I know what \"fun\" that can be =)"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (10:05)", "body": "First reports are that it's a stable machine, even running in a room w/o a/c."}, {"response": 76, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (11:07)", "body": "Oh, no! w/o a/c ???? Could you translate that into English please?"}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (12:52)", "body": "without air conditioning. Something people around here can't seem to live without. Except maybe Jeff and his machines."}, {"response": 78, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (13:10)", "body": "oh Will you grant me permission to ask one stupid question, please."}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (14:12)", "body": "Permission granted, mademoiselle."}, {"response": 80, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (14:52)", "body": "Is the spring like an organization? Or a co\ufffdperation kind of thing with lots of people working there, where you are the big boss? And if so, does that make YOU the person who tells us to go away if we swear too much? Stacey said there was someone like that. Are you that person?"}, {"response": 81, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (15:07)", "body": "We're a loosely knit co-op and I pretty much supply everyting and keep it running, I'm not very dictatorial though."}, {"response": 82, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (16:17)", "body": "how is it all paid for, may i ask...?"}, {"response": 83, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (16:58)", "body": "i've always wanted to ask terry that myself. i keep thinking that he'll go into a Brando/Godfather impersonation and say, \"Listen, don't ask me about my bizness.\""}, {"response": 84, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (17:07)", "body": "I pay for it all, but hopefully we'll figure out a better model than that! Suggestions??? Should we have a pledge drive? I could clearly explain what it costs to run this place and we could try and raise some funds that way. Or we could expand our web business with volunteer help form our users."}, {"response": 85, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (17:10)", "body": "i think we should have a pledge drive. if the spring were to offer mikeg@thespring.com as an e-mail address, i'd cancel my WELL account and pay $15 a month here."}, {"response": 86, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (22:40)", "body": "Or we could sell pizzas, candy bars and overpriced wrapping paper!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (23:44)", "body": "We already have hundreds of folks with email addresses here."}, {"response": 88, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (00:20)", "body": "yeah...if you've got a telnet account you have an e-mail address here, Mike..."}, {"response": 89, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (03:59)", "body": "yeah, but mikeg@www.spring.net is not quite as cool as mikeg@well.com. know that spring.com has been sold, I guess the closest might be mikeg@thespring.com, which I'd pay $15 a month for :)"}, {"response": 90, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (05:51)", "body": "I've got an idea how we can have fun and raise a bit of money for the spring as the spring people. There's going to be that big spring party next year, right? What if we all came a day or so in advance, have a huge cake baking, popcorn popping get together the first day. Sell these at a huge stall with lots of music and colourful ribbons and baloons, and at a 100% profit the next day and have the party on the third day! You know, like in school, but alot bigger! Popcorn put me through four years of s udy at a conservatorium when I was in school, so it's the only practical idea I can come up with - sorry if it sounds childish. And the rest of the time, why don't you just ask us for donations, Terry? I'd be willing to, because the spring is important."}, {"response": 91, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:31)", "body": "Mike, you can use either mikeg@thespring.com or mikeg@spring.net, they both work. For that matter, you're also mikeg@childrenstory.com and mikeg@tvpc.com, and mikeg@babeoftheweek.com. Got it any other cool names we can register. Hey, idea! Let's all brainstorm up some great names that we can either develope into websites or sell to make some money to keep the Spring going. I'll open a topic!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (07:20)", "body": "No, this is confusing! Remember, Autumn and me don't do the computer thing so well."}, {"response": 93, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (08:37)", "body": "but, you do it over the computer just fine..."}, {"response": 94, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (10:10)", "body": "This part is pretty straight forward. It is when those secret CIA intelligence codes start popping up that our peas start popping around frantically."}, {"response": 95, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (13:52)", "body": "oooh...I hate it when my peas pop frantically... so, Terry, if I wanted to \"fix\" the templates around here, I would just send the \"corrected\" ones to Jeff and he'd put them in? oh, and have you gotten any farther with the conference mangager thingy?"}, {"response": 96, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (14:47)", "body": "Call me tonight and I'll set you up and explain to you how it works."}, {"response": 97, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (17:47)", "body": "Got it...when is too late?"}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (19:55)", "body": "It's too early now, in a coupla' hours when I get back from dinner. You see, Stacey made me hungry."}, {"response": 99, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (22:09)", "body": "understand that! just got back from Hyde Park Bar & Grill..."}, {"response": 100, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (09:24)", "body": "Missed you last night, try again tonight."}, {"response": 101, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (10:46)", "body": "at work tonight...will call when I get home, probably between 10:30 and 11..."}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (11:48)", "body": "Sounds good."}, {"response": 103, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (18:45)", "body": "when I made ya hungry Paul... what were you craving?!?!"}, {"response": 104, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (23:05)", "body": "probably something different than I was..."}, {"response": 105, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (05:38)", "body": "I wasn't even thinking about food till I read your post, then zoom, off to the races."}, {"response": 106, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (05:38)", "body": "perhaps our design should also contain food and sex to provide a clearer image of Spring inhabitants!"}, {"response": 107, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (05:38)", "body": "WOO WOO!!!"}, {"response": 108, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (05:24)", "body": "Hell, then I'll just do a spurting willy!!!"}, {"response": 109, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (05:25)", "body": "AFter all, willies count as food too, right?"}, {"response": 110, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (08:53)", "body": "Remember the spermy looking logo we had for a while, a cross between a noctural emission and an oil gusher?"}, {"response": 111, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (22:55)", "body": "such intriguing images... to get the text box conf link done, I've gotta rework the list template... haven't gone to armidale to get it yet, and not sure if I can figure it out myself, yet... am starting work on template re-design, so if there is something else that you all want, speak up..."}, {"response": 112, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (14:23)", "body": "No, a willy will do just fine, thank you."}, {"response": 113, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (07:59)", "body": "There's a link to your spiffy new search page on main now, Terry..."}, {"response": 114, "author": "LADY", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (08:17)", "body": "HELLO HOW SOES THIS WORK IS ANY ONE HERE?"}, {"response": 115, "author": "LADY", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (08:18)", "body": "SOME ONE (((((((((( HELP!! )))))))))))"}, {"response": 116, "author": "wer", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (08:20)", "body": "Are you still here? It's a bulletin boardish kinda thing. Post a message, as above, and come back at your earliest convenience and see if anyone has responded... Welcome! Hope you stay around here awhile..."}, {"response": 117, "author": "LADY", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (08:26)", "body": "IS SOME ONE HERE THIS IS SO WEIRD I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY CAHT PLACE LIKE THIS ? I thought this was live chat. THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE MAN!!!!!!"}, {"response": 118, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (08:41)", "body": "hi lady! nope this aint live chat. this is asynchronous, bulletin board style communication ala the WeLL. check out http://www.spring.net to learn more any maybe even http://www.well.com hope to see you around some more!!"}, {"response": 119, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (08:41)", "body": "yes, lady, and do stop shouting (caps on)! sometimes a group of us are on-line at the same time and that's cool! but it's fun to post something and then come back later and see what happened next!"}, {"response": 120, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (08:41)", "body": "It is something else, Lady. Not chat for sure. Something more intelligible and focused hopefully."}, {"response": 121, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (20:49)", "body": "even with our ramblings he finds us intelligent! well, hey, we're edgy and cooool! i don't know who revamped this place but it looks good. very soothing to me..."}, {"response": 122, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (23:10)", "body": "thanks..."}, {"response": 123, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (01:11)", "body": "Mighty mighty good!!! Man!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (10:28)", "body": "if this kind of stuff comes out of your head, wer, then we have nothing at all to fear. does ya needs to blab?"}, {"response": 125, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (10:44)", "body": "actually, just changed the page to mirror Terry's index and search pages...trying for that continuity thang..."}, {"response": 126, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (10:46)", "body": "and as to blabbing, no but thanks, that's what I'm working on controlling at the moment..."}, {"response": 127, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (13:10)", "body": "gotcha! well, the breaks are different, aren't they? doesn't matter, i like it anyway!"}, {"response": 128, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (00:52)", "body": "so, do you all like the looks in here enough for me to make it the new default for the Spring as a whole? (at least for awhile, anyway...)"}, {"response": 129, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (01:41)", "body": "It's great, but don't ya touch my conference!!!! I'll turn you into another kind of default with alot of stripes, and a very silly logo on those broad shoulder o' yours! No I just find it sort of nice that all the conferences have identities of their own. Like, I can't imagine Genx without our lovable puppy! It just so suits that conference - I can't somehow get excited over the leaves (which look so great here!!) replacing our puppy!"}, {"response": 130, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (08:14)", "body": "how about making it the default for conferences that don't already have a nice background?"}, {"response": 131, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (08:48)", "body": "that's what I said...the default... will show in all the conferences where a lovable host hasn't messed with the rc file, and will show on Main Menu... speaking of, has anyone noticed the Personalized for line?"}, {"response": 132, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (09:10)", "body": "yes i did, was that you? what's the scholar thingy? or should i just click and go there?"}, {"response": 133, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (09:14)", "body": "Click and go, Baby!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (11:16)", "body": "Oh! I'm terribly sorry, Wer! I misunderstood! WHERE is the personalized for line? Damn, my head is thick as a mud ball at the moment - just can't think straight."}, {"response": 135, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (17:15)", "body": "http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/main right under the words Main Menu..."}, {"response": 136, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (03:45)", "body": "Oh, I found it! You've got great moves, Wer!"}, {"response": 137, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (03:45)", "body": "We should change the name of this topic to 'Spring re-vamp'!"}, {"response": 138, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (22:55)", "body": "So, how \"commercial\" do you all mind this place looking? What doesn't anyone want me to do?"}, {"response": 139, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (05:39)", "body": "I so, go right over the top, Muffin!"}, {"response": 140, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (20:39)", "body": "No tacky plastic crap. Anything else is OK!"}, {"response": 141, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 12, 1998 (01:15)", "body": "You mean and Edwardian feel would not delight the Moore heart?"}, {"response": 142, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Sep 12, 1998 (10:32)", "body": "I thought Othellian feels lit the Moor heart..."}, {"response": 143, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (02:59)", "body": "ha-ha!"}, {"response": 144, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (20:53)", "body": "Now there's a real man! He can light my fire anyday..."}, {"response": 145, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (05:35)", "body": "The place is looking nice :)"}, {"response": 146, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (05:29)", "body": "Thanks, Mike, still can't get some things to work, however... Terry, got you options for the last 50, 100, 333, and 500 posts in case you're not webbing in..."}, {"response": 147, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (16:49)", "body": "333? What an intriguing number...how did you arrive at that, mike?"}, {"response": 148, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (18:18)", "body": "um i didn't - wer did :)"}, {"response": 149, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (20:44)", "body": "oops, I meant wer."}, {"response": 150, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (09:03)", "body": "um, Terry asked for the last 100 and last 500, so I figured someone sometime might want something inbetween, so why not 333? I mean, it is a lot cooler than say 250 or plain old 300..."}, {"response": 151, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (12:47)", "body": "Ah...curiosity satisfied! 333 is both edgy and cool, don'tcha think?"}, {"response": 152, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (12:53)", "body": "exactly!"}, {"response": 153, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (00:44)", "body": "You're sooooooo cool, Wer! Were you born that way, or moulded?"}, {"response": 154, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Jan 9, 1999 (00:40)", "body": "yes..."}, {"response": 155, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (13:30)", "body": "Working on a Link to Us page, with different banners and buttons for people to use to link back to the Spring with...if anyone has any banners for me to put up on said page, e-mail them to me at rotazo@aol.com, or ftp'em to your favorite server and e-mail me their urls...oh, and a for example"}, {"response": 156, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (18:23)", "body": "wer, i have a cheesy one i made for my website at http://www.ratthing.com"}, {"response": 157, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (22:32)", "body": "got it, Ray, see..."}, {"response": 158, "author": "amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (08:08)", "body": ""}, {"response": 159, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (09:52)", "body": "i like that one a lot!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (21:54)", "body": "me, too! Thanks, Amy!"}, {"response": 161, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (17:51)", "body": "rough draft of the link to us page is up at http://www.spring.net/~cfadm/links/ peruse, use, and send me submissions!!! and again, thanks Amy and Ray..."}, {"response": 162, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (17:52)", "body": "oh, yeah, be patient as it takes a little while to load..."}, {"response": 163, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (17:52)", "body": "rough draft of the link to us page is up at http://www.spring.net/~cfadm/links/ peruse, use, and send me submissions!!! and again, thanks Amy and Ray..."}, {"response": 164, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (20:53)", "body": "I like the one that says \"... in a friendly atmosphere\". Maybe one that says \"What do you want to talk about today?\""}, {"response": 165, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (21:53)", "body": "gotcha, Boss!"}, {"response": 166, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (16:09)", "body": "i really liked the one on #158. but let me go back and check out the ones up at spring-links...."}, {"response": 167, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (16:12)", "body": "ok...i like 'em all....maybe we can just let the person choose a scheme to match their page or their liking? you guys did a good job!"}, {"response": 168, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (17:54)", "body": "that was my thought...still need to make the \"Watcha wanna talk 'bout?\" one..."}, {"response": 169, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (09:00)", "body": "yep, yep!"}, {"response": 170, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (17:03)", "body": "see!"}, {"response": 171, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb 27, 1999 (11:01)", "body": "If we don't make some changes, the status quo will remain the same."}, {"response": 172, "author": "wer", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (00:19)", "body": "hey...I want to put up the spring cam on main...do you all want a snapshot of what is playing, or do you want me to make the whole main menu refresh, and if so, how fast do you want it? (my guess would be somewhere between 45 and 60 seconds...)"}, {"response": 173, "author": "wer", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (00:21)", "body": "still working on your banner, Terry...speaking of, do you have any cool graphics programs I can use and/or Frontpage98? (got a new, cool computer at home and can telnet and ftp and... and everything!!! well, almost...)"}, {"response": 174, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (10:25)", "body": "Yep, I'll be glad to help you get set up. Let me know when to come by. Or you can come by here and I'll get you what you need."}, {"response": 175, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (17:58)", "body": "kil-ler"}, {"response": 176, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (08:54)", "body": "No problem. Give me a call!"}, {"response": 177, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (00:37)", "body": "I will...as to when, ?"}, {"response": 178, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (08:07)", "body": "Anytime, this weekends good."}, {"response": 179, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (09:06)", "body": "about the main index page where you want the last responses to go: how does everyone feel about splash pages? it's the easiest way to do it (frames would be next easiest) as I have to write a template and script for the page to include the last response thang...I'm also gonna put the last response pages over in public for more universal access..."}, {"response": 180, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (17:21)", "body": "I achieved nothing, but in a very nice way....reminisced about depression and what it felt like...odd."}, {"response": 181, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (18:04)", "body": "this place looks great! (hi mike)"}, {"response": 182, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (20:30)", "body": "and I thought odd was what I felt like... Hiya, Mike! Hiya, Wolf!"}, {"response": 183, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 2, 1999 (01:01)", "body": "as to a splash page... what do you all think about http://www.spring.net/~spew/ndex.html"}, {"response": 184, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 2, 1999 (08:13)", "body": "It's good. Now, if you could have those last 10 posts that folks could click on the main page. Can you create a test page for this?"}, {"response": 185, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 2, 1999 (10:24)", "body": "I think so..."}, {"response": 186, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 2, 1999 (10:45)", "body": "and for a second version of splash, see http://www.spring.net/~spew/ndex2.html (I like this one better...)"}, {"response": 187, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (14:06)", "body": "i love ndex.html wer....not so sure about ndex2.html"}, {"response": 188, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (18:36)", "body": "thank you, Mike got a third version running around in my head, as well..."}, {"response": 189, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "wer, i like em both! harder to read the second one, but the water goes well with the theme!"}, {"response": 190, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:17)", "body": "I was thinking, I could write some Javascript that would allow us to \"see\" who was here via the web as well as via telnet. anyone fancy that?"}, {"response": 191, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (18:35)", "body": "no comments?"}, {"response": 192, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "just now am seeing it...sure, if it don't crash stuff like, oh say, Navigator 2.0..."}, {"response": 193, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (19:48)", "body": "i don't know what that mumbo jumbo means so i can't comment. oh, wait...huh?"}, {"response": 194, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (14:47)", "body": "what version of javascript does netscape 2 have wer?"}, {"response": 195, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (00:14)", "body": "(*paranoid*) Are you guys making fun of me?! I'm so computer-illiterate I can't even tell!"}, {"response": 196, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (00:27)", "body": "2 is before Java, I think, Mike... Autumn, would I do that?"}, {"response": 197, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (00:41)", "body": "Methinks you would, with relish..."}, {"response": 198, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (10:59)", "body": "only briefly... *grin*"}, {"response": 199, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (23:37)", "body": "I was wrong, Mike, Navigator 2.0 was the first to support Javascript...don't know the version, though..."}, {"response": 200, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (05:00)", "body": "1.0, I would guess I sent you email asking for create access in /usr/bbs/www - did you get it?"}, {"response": 201, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "and look who got to be 200!"}, {"response": 202, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (01:08)", "body": "yep...will send you the info later today (Tuesday)... (haven't gone to sleep yet so my body thinks it is Monday still...)"}, {"response": 203, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (18:35)", "body": "thanks for the write acces, wer. unfortunately i don't seem to be able to get the yapp interpreter thingy to do any pages correctly. for example, i have created a page \"test\" in /usr/bbs/www that is basically a copy of \"userinfo\", also in that directory. yet, they come out completely differently...i'm very confused :) any suggestions would be most helpful."}, {"response": 204, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (19:59)", "body": "aha...got it working in a rudimentary way. just got to add some bells and whistles and it'll be up anmd running!"}, {"response": 205, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (20:07)", "body": "at the Armidalesoftware web site (http:/www.armidalesoftware.com) there are controls for \"hide, edit, delete\" on postings that you've made yourself. can we implement that here?"}, {"response": 206, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (23:08)", "body": "maybe...I have trouble making some things work on here, too... maybe I'll have more time to sort it all out when I'm unemployed..."}, {"response": 207, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (01:27)", "body": "anyway... Attention all hosts!!! I would like to add the goto search bar to the main(browse) page for each conference. Does anyone have a problem with that? (if so, I'll add it so that you can turn it off if you want to... however, since it only generates 2 cents a use, it would be nice to have it up and running in as many places as possible...)"}, {"response": 208, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (15:59)", "body": "as long as it opens a new browser window - we don't want ppl straying from the Spring!!"}, {"response": 209, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "let's do it!"}, {"response": 210, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (18:07)", "body": "all of us stray, Mike..."}, {"response": 211, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, May 9, 1999 (12:45)", "body": "... but we live to regret it! NEW BROWSER WINDOW N O W ! (Hi Wer!)"}, {"response": 212, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (08:18)", "body": ""}, {"response": 213, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (08:21)", "body": ""}, {"response": 214, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (08:22)", "body": "this topic is not playing nice today!!! (gotta go to work now...will try again later...)"}, {"response": 215, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (08:56)", "body": "\"Go to Work\" - ?"}, {"response": 216, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:19)", "body": ""}, {"response": 217, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:25)", "body": "yep...I'm temping for a state agency..."}, {"response": 218, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:31)", "body": "Traffic The Spring From 04/12/1999 To 05/19/1999 Transaction Day Transaction Date Impressions Click Throughs Click to Impression % Sunday 04/18/1999 5 2 40.000% Monday 04/19/1999 65 3 4.615% Tuesday 04/20/1999 59 3 5.085% Wednesday 04/21/1999 59 0 .000% Thursday 04/22/1999 117 16 13.675% Friday 04/23/1999 65 10 15.385% Saturday 04/24/1999 42 5 11.905% Sunday 04/25/1999 56 1 1.786% Monday 04/26/1999 51 0 .000% Tuesday 04/27/1999 80 5 6.250% Wednesday 04/28/1999 75 0 .000% Thursday 04/29/1999 67 4 5.970% Friday 04/30/1999 45 3 6.667% Saturday 05/01/1999 50 2 4.000% Sunday 05/02/1999 48 2 4.167% Monday 05/03/1999 45 1 2.222% Tuesday 05/04/1999 38 0 .000% Wednesday 05/05/1999 38 0 .000% Thursday 05/06/1999 44 0 .000% Friday 05/07/1999 59 5 8.475% Saturday 05/08/1999 37 1 2.703% Sunday 05/09/1999 40 1 2.500% Monday 05/10/1999 57 4 7.018% Tuesday 05/11/1999 64 2 3.125% Wednesday 05/12/1999 61 0 .000% Thursday 05/13/1999 59 4 6.780% Friday 05/14/1999 55 1 1.818% Saturday 05/15/1999 36 1 2.778% Sunday 05/16/1999 41 0 .000% Monday 05/17/1999 55 1 1.818% Tuesday 05/18/1999 61 0 .000% Wednesday 05/19/1999 63 3 4.762% Grand Totals 1,737 80 4.606% ."}, {"response": 219, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:36)", "body": "my apologies to everyone...I will edit out the white space when I get home... I don't have ftp on my laptop at work, and forgot how to ftp through Internet Explorer and have never really learned how to ftp over telnet yet..."}, {"response": 220, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:40)", "body": "\"A laptop at work\" - my, Wer, that's looking good! You sure about the \"temping\"? Might that not rather be \"tempting\"? What are you doing there?"}, {"response": 221, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:42)", "body": "got a laptop and a docking station...even got a desk and half an office!!! updating, proofreading, and editing their Intranet pages..."}, {"response": 222, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:47)", "body": "speaking of work, thanks for lunch, Alexander, time for me to hit the keyboard again..."}, {"response": 223, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:48)", "body": "...a real IT job! Do they pay? Wer, this is what I thought a while ago - everybody should throw money together to keep you off the streets (=make them safer, you know). So, if the state helps to combine the Texas citizens tax money to make Austin a better place, what can I say? All Power to that place's human resources dept.! (How do you feel?)"}, {"response": 224, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:19)", "body": "wer with a laptop and not a wooden spoon.....hmmmm, well, do ya have any kitchen utensils hanging on the wall behind your desk? you know, so you can remember where you came from? *grin*"}, {"response": 225, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (14:59)", "body": "I'm making a little more a week than I was cooking with all my evenings and weekends free and about twenty hours a week less of work...I even wear nice clothes to work now... and no, Wolf, they all think I've done this kind of work for real before, so I haven't let them in on the \"big secret\"..."}, {"response": 226, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (16:06)", "body": "(How do you feel?)"}, {"response": 227, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (16:34)", "body": "(still haven't quite adjusted to the radical environmental changes, and until the checks start coming in, there's always the bein'broke stress, but my appetite is back and my smoking has been cut roughly in half...)"}, {"response": 228, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (16:52)", "body": "no doubt due to lack of fundage! hang in there guy, we're pulling for you *hugz*"}, {"response": 229, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (04:32)", "body": "Hey, Wer, cut all that smoking! A girl I know at a label, she quit smoking and a year later she had the cash for a three week holiday in California, meeting people, seeing bands, having fun, cruising Bay Area. Would that count as incentive? (Wolf, I'm with with you - but what am I pulling here? Somebody's leg?)"}, {"response": 230, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (04:32)", "body": ""}, {"response": 231, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (08:57)", "body": "Woo Woo WER!!!!"}, {"response": 232, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, May 23, 1999 (04:54)", "body": "Just had a bit of a thought whilst I was playing around in the web interface. If you run in 640*256 then the slide on the main page is pretty big. It would be easy to tailor the main page so that the image was scaled to fit screen resolutions - just a tiny bit of javascript does it. Also, we could implement an option whereby each user could choose whether they wanted the slide on their main page or not (I, for example, don't particularly). Again, easy to do with a web browser cookie. I'd be happy to o both of these things."}, {"response": 233, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, May 23, 1999 (05:01)", "body": "obviously that should be 640*480 :)"}, {"response": 234, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, May 23, 1999 (13:00)", "body": "'tis worth a shot I 'spose..."}, {"response": 235, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (13:31)", "body": "what do you all think of http://access.spring.net/~wer/test/index.html as a new main page for http://www.spring.net/ ??? (not everything on it works as of this post 'cause it's still a demo...)"}, {"response": 236, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (12:30)", "body": "Good stuff! Maybe the conferences could run down the whole page and the Log in / join /help could be narrower. Opening several new domains: http://www.tvshows.com http://www.bioregion.com http://www.workontheweb.com and more! Needless, to say, I need all the design help I can get... Thanks much, wer!"}, {"response": 237, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "tell me when and/or where, and let me know when to come over if I need some training!"}, {"response": 238, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (21:39)", "body": "wer, you're a genius! i love your design!!"}, {"response": 239, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (00:07)", "body": "thanks"}, {"response": 240, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (10:00)", "body": "Come over any time you have a chance, we've got a whole living room full of systems waiting for design talent. We can hot rod up a system to your specs."}, {"response": 241, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (10:06)", "body": "Uh, Terry, you sure you want to do that? Rigging a kit to meet Wer's specs must be really challenging... He's such a DEMANDING and EXPECTANT person... Try to get a decent wig for the case to start with. And cool shades."}, {"response": 242, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (14:43)", "body": "yep...those are a must!"}, {"response": 243, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (17:02)", "body": "check http://access.spring.net/~wer/test/index.html again, guys, as I got rid of the borders and stretched out the conferences list, as per Terry's request. is sometime around 6 tonight okay, Terry?"}, {"response": 244, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (10:41)", "body": "That's ok! You can even work out by the pool now."}, {"response": 245, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (11:05)", "body": "i like it, wer, just one thing, about the scroll bars around the picture and the yellow line inbetween the spring cam and the info about spring cam....can those be removed? i love the scrolling sidebar with the topics alphabetized, much easier!"}, {"response": 246, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (14:17)", "body": "Terry, paint her toes, too... You guys have fun! And Wer, don't rub the sun lotion to strong into the mainboard, when you get worked up, ok? Like, don't pour it on, buddy!"}, {"response": 247, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (12:15)", "body": "because of monitor sizes, and using minimized windows, Wolf, I can't get rid of all the scrollbars without loosing some info that's up... just like the yellow line which is below the springcam for me, but beside it for you...I can make it a different color and I think I'll go with the green of the background on the cam info frame...should I go with the different fonts for the conference names?"}, {"response": 248, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (22:08)", "body": "oh, thanks for explaining wer *hugs* um, the green would work, methinks....and the conf names, hmmmm...maybe a size bigger...i dunno, it's obvious you worked hard on it and i hope you don't think i'm being critical *smooch*"}, {"response": 249, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (23:41)", "body": "no, go ahead and be critical...if it doesn't appeal to as many as possible, there's no need to change it, right? anyway, the green is done, and I've started playing with the fonts, so go check it again..."}, {"response": 250, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (11:30)", "body": "played some more...combined two frames for less scroll bars... check it out again at http://access.spring.net/~wer/test/index.html I may get it right yet!!!"}, {"response": 251, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (13:58)", "body": "so far so good! i like what i'm seeing, anyway..."}, {"response": 252, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (18:57)", "body": "It's good, wer, but the font in the lower left box (with Spring's address) needs to be much larger so folks will know where to send their checks! I see you like the black box. Oh well, can't win 'um all..."}, {"response": 253, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (08:11)", "body": "Looks good, much better without the big borders between frames. I like the way only the picture refreshes."}, {"response": 254, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (00:29)", "body": "there's not a black box...two frames are really dark green, but I'm not sure what you're referring to as the black box..."}, {"response": 255, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (01:18)", "body": "The left-most one with the green plain typing in it. It is not the screen part waiting for the picture to come on - it is the slightly larger one to the far left. (It really does not bother me as I do not come in that way!)It is really quite fine."}, {"response": 256, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (01:23)", "body": "I just went back to check and it looks Great . It is just perfect and I really like it now that the refreshing picture there. Good job, wer. Take a bow!"}, {"response": 257, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (23:07)", "body": "thanks"}, {"response": 258, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (11:39)", "body": "Who changed the background in Music?"}, {"response": 259, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (11:42)", "body": "I did...do you not like it?"}, {"response": 260, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (11:44)", "body": "My apologies...I should have asked since you be a host in there... what is my \"punishment\"?"}, {"response": 261, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (11:46)", "body": "Hmh. It looks nice, but I *liked* the old one with the musical notes... plus the blue of the writing and the greenish stripes hurts my eyes a bit. You also made the \"clear\"-button vanish from under the field to write in?"}, {"response": 262, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (11:47)", "body": "Punishment: How about my opinion on it? See above... (And believe me, this hurts me more than you!)"}, {"response": 263, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (11:50)", "body": "yeah...the stripes and the blue does that to mine, too... any suggestions for a different background or do you just want the eyes and notes back?"}, {"response": 264, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:13)", "body": "Hmh. Eyes are cool, notes are musical - perhaps a different hue for a change? I hate sinking other people's boats, so - any suggestion? What about the \"clear\"-button?"}, {"response": 265, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:25)", "body": "yeah, I took it away again, too...got some complaints that people were hitting it instead of submit... hmmm...colors..."}, {"response": 266, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:38)", "body": "OK, lemme guess - Moonbeam? I never had this problem, but found it very useful when I pasted some copied text in there, but wanted to take it out again for some reason (wrong topic, etc.). How about putting it ABOVE the window? No clumsy fingers can mistake it there... (What always happened to me was, I hit the redisplay button. Took me a month to get over this...)"}, {"response": 267, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:53)", "body": "Any way you can make those eyes and notes less intense - or the stripes more muted would be welcome to these eyes."}, {"response": 268, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "I can try re-positioning, yes..."}, {"response": 269, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (13:12)", "body": "No, Not Moonbeam...I was the one who requested its removal - but I am not alone. Until you have written an opus worthy of binding and hit the wrong button (btw, I could handle it if it were far to the right of the submit button), you do not appreciate how infernal that clear button can really be."}, {"response": 270, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (05:24)", "body": "Amazing - never had that! Always screwed things myself using the redisplay button... But we wouldn't kick that, would we?"}, {"response": 271, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (13:50)", "body": "Compromise is a good thing about the Clear button. I made a location change request in Drool and the magicians there put it to the far right of the box in which I am now writing...opposite corner from the submit button. That is great. BTW, when I do want to delete the whole mess I highlight one line, hit the control+A and it is all highlighted. Then I hit the delete button on the computer and it is gone! Just a thought. I spent two days looking for good wallpaper for music but came up empty. I canno read through those same-color-as-the-post eyes and notes. Oh well...it is not my conference...=)"}, {"response": 272, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 2, 2000 (14:19)", "body": "The Front Page - http://www.spring.net - looks incredible with the black background. Really stands out. Wolf said she can see the pictures in the table on the right but I cannot see them. I dumped cache, closed out the computer, rebooted and the whole nine yards. I still cannot see them, though I can see the globe at the bottom of the middle table. I know, get rid of Netscape! Must I purge my hotlist again to get any of the graphics I am supposed to be seeing? I need help - what else is new?! Anyway, it looks sensational. Just thought you should know...*smile*"}, {"response": 273, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 2, 2000 (17:20)", "body": "And, if the black wallpaper is the intended one, would Ree's artwork not be exquisite on such a background in that large empty square in the middle table? The type colors chosen would be exactly right with the \"painting\", as well. We would have the classiest front page on the entire web!"}, {"response": 274, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (20:21)", "body": "May I please make a little request when there is nothing else to do? Could you please consider putting the beautiful blue sky with the white puffy clouds as music conf wallpaper? It is screwback1...and we would be rid of the eyes and stuff forever...*sigh* Thanks!"}, {"response": 275, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 7, 2000 (15:01)", "body": "Since I still cannot telnet, would you please link History 5 to Today conference, please?! No one goes into history much, and the topic is \"This Day in History\" which is appropriate to Today as well as to History... ..isn't it?"}, {"response": 276, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 7, 2000 (15:21)", "body": "yup!"}, {"response": 277, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 7, 2000 (16:06)", "body": "Coz if they don't no one's gonna read'um...*sigh*"}, {"response": 278, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 7, 2000 (16:09)", "body": "...excepting a very few choice indivuals of discernment who are curious and intelligent and otherwise superior *grin*"}, {"response": 279, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 3, 2000 (20:45)", "body": "Is there any place for a UTC clock like this one? It is in Geo 14 now and works just fine, but on my desktop it does not...*frown*"}, {"response": 280, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 3, 2000 (20:46)", "body": "Is there any way to put it on the title page of the conference without messing up what is already there? I'd love to have it there in Geo but do not want to tempt fate enough to put it there and risk messing up what was origianlly created to be there."}, {"response": 281, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr 3, 2000 (20:49)", "body": "can't see it *frown* what's a utc cock?"}, {"response": 282, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 3, 2000 (20:57)", "body": "Tells time GMT or Zulu to you military types. It is in post 279 and if you click on it and hit the reload you will see that it is the USNO Master Clock and it will count up for you for about 5 seconds. Better, i guess, to have one which keeps refreshing even when the page is loaded - like the Visto banners do."}, {"response": 283, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 16, 2000 (23:08)", "body": "I finally found wallpaper for the Music Conference...possibly. Please check my files at www.spring.net. It is the only one in the wallpaper folder. Thanks!"}, {"response": 284, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 16, 2000 (23:16)", "body": "The UTC clock still works and no one reads this topic...I guess I am wasting my time here. This would be a good place to write comments between people who do not like to have others read their postings....*sigh*"}, {"response": 285, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 16, 2000 (23:55)", "body": "Feel free to recolor it to suit Alexander...but you would be doing a great service to those who might not otherwise go into the music conference since it has such annoying wallpaper now. I would be most appreciative..."}, {"response": 286, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jun 5, 2000 (07:28)", "body": "I need some help with the web wizards here due to a too busy schedule . . . the stuff I posted on the main page on geo is \"squished\" and I need someone to troubleshoot it and figure out how to expand it. Clue, it's FrontPage 2000 enabled. I can add more folks to the FrontPage authoring list."}, {"response": 287, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (16:01)", "body": "And the stuff I fixed a couple weeks ago isn't working again. I'll take a look at it."}, {"response": 288, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (17:01)", "body": "I had to do a rev on the stuff you did, because the bottom of the page was a big empty expanse. But now the frame is \"squishing\" the geo stuff of Marci's."}, {"response": 289, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (18:05)", "body": "It was those {pre} tags. They'll do it every time. Best to stay away from them when trying to do that sort of thing. Something also goes fluey when it goes through Front Page with respect to Netscape. I think it is the \"base\" tag at the top. I don't think that works for Netscape at all, so for everyone who had been using that browser, the page doesn't load for them. I fixed that too (but that base tag should probably come out, I left it there), but if it goes through FP again, I think it will happen again."}, {"response": 290, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (19:04)", "body": "I'll try to stay away with FP if at all possible. I'll look to see if you fixed the squishness of the geo content."}, {"response": 291, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (19:10)", "body": "The problem, now, Ann is that the page ends at an odd spot: . . . 6 80 Plate Tectonics: The Physical Dynamics of The Crust (MarciaH) 7 69 Paleontology: fossils, coprolites, and petrified wood (MarciaH) 8 624 Precious Stones and Metals: Physical and Chemical Properties (MarciaH) 9 145 Seismology: Earthquakes - The Science and Updates on Current Activity (MarciaH) 10 19 See how it ends on topic 10 unexpectedly? Feel free to play around with the page, Ann. I love it that someone other than me is working on this page! Thanks so much!"}, {"response": 292, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (20:40)", "body": "Um, did you fiddle with it again in Front Page? It's not working at all with Netscape again. You should take a look at it with Net. too and see what the problems are. It doesn't load at all."}, {"response": 293, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (09:51)", "body": "No, I didn't open it with FrontPage. I'll look at it with Netscape, what's causing the Netscape problems?"}, {"response": 294, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (16:06)", "body": "Don't know what is causing it but I have a plain yellow wallpaper and that is ALL I get. And, Yes, I am using Netscape..."}, {"response": 295, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (20:15)", "body": "I downloaded Communicator 4.7 today, but didn't get a chance to look at it."}, {"response": 296, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (13:56)", "body": "I think it is the \"base\" tag at the start. I think that only works for IE. Makes a mess of Netscape."}, {"response": 297, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (13:59)", "body": "I'm gonna do a bit of work on it now..."}, {"response": 298, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (14:34)", "body": "Sure, go Ann! Thanks so much. Great to have you on the web team."}, {"response": 299, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (15:32)", "body": "Okay, I cleaned it up so that it works with Netscape again. I don't know what changes you had made to it since I last did it, but I tried to make the same ones. If you make any changes, make sure you re-download the latest version to your machine before you begin, that way you start with the version that I've fixed and not the old one. (I also took out the base tag, we'll have to see if that makes a difference.) And I added the 10th topic under the Geo list at the bottom. Don't know if you wanted all the topics there or not. **************** Redesign ideas ( Warning , these are pretty different from what you have, and you might not like it! Remember, a lot of this is my own personal taste! Take it for what it is.): First, if you look at http://Austen.com or http://www.pemberley.com/qindex.htm , you'll see that there isn't that much on those pages (on the Pemberley, there is no content at all there)--and, importantly, that most of the page fits on the first screen, without the need to scroll down. (I didn't do the design on these, but you can see the same thing in action on some others I've worked on: http://www.wda.org , http://www.hmrecovery.org/ ) All these pages work more as a pass-through on the way to other things on the site. -- They save the bulk of the information for the interior of the site, with pages dedicated to that part of the content. On Austen's Front Door, there are only a handful of links and a bit of text on the front page--no real content. My intent there is to explain what the different sections to the site are, and give people a way to get to them. That keeps the front page clean and neat, and makes it quick to load--averaging about 11 seconds for me with a 28.8 connection. The first thing I would do if I were redoing the Spring page, would be to get rid of the picture. Too often the picture has little interesting content--sometimes a plain blue screen, and the 30 second refresh isn't long enough for someone to see everything on the page before they are interrupted by the page reloading. I timed it 3 times, and the page averaged 37 seconds to load. That's on the high end of things to begin with, then 30 seconds go by, and the person has to wait 37 seconds again for the page to reload. It will drive people off. If the video and sound capabilities of the Spring are important, there might be better ways to get the point across. The MS theme with the autumn leaves is used in other places on the web, and I don't know if you want that. Perhaps it is better to have a unique look. (I'm personally not a fan of the javascript buttons at the top, but that's personal taste.) Also, the theme list points (animated gif leaves in \"What's Here\" and \"Inside\") are about doubling the size of the page (not counting load-time on those images.) Keeping things as quick to load as possible is usually desireable. The two lists (\"Discussions\" and \"Inside\") aren't as helpful as they could be. Someone who has never been to the site, for example, won't know what \"drool!\" or \"vc\" are; they need more explanation than that. People are unlikely to spend a whole lot of time browsing through the different boards, most of which won't match their personal interests--best to let them know about the ones that they would like at the start. Hmmm....well, that would be a start >:) ********* Once again, those ideas are just one person's opinion. Take them or leave them!"}, {"response": 300, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (07:01)", "body": "Why don't you just redo the whole page from scratch, and rename the page we have now and make a link to it, call it the webcam page or something and just have the picture and sound link on it. I agree about the leaves thing and the reloading, just start from scratch if you're up to it. I would love it if you would implement all of these ideas and give us a fresh, new look. Great ideas! I would love it if they could happen."}, {"response": 301, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (13:29)", "body": "What sort of graphical look do you want?"}, {"response": 302, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (09:21)", "body": "Something that conveys the spirit of discussions and conversation, and gets people into our conversations quickly, and also provides us with some affiliate revenue."}, {"response": 303, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (10:33)", "body": "I've seen a number of Spring logos around here. Do you have an archive of them anywhere? Could you give me a list of them. (In other words, I need some place to start. I'm not an artist, and I need something to work from.)"}, {"response": 304, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (16:50)", "body": "Okay, I've started to do a design based on: Hope that works for you!"}, {"response": 305, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (16:56)", "body": "Yup! A sentimental favorite of mine, actually!"}, {"response": 306, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (18:54)", "body": "Here you go...not many of the links work, and it will mean a redesign of some of the pages that are being linked to (for example, I couldn't tell if there was much difference between the \"Shop\" link and the \"Store\" link, so I figured they could be combined. Also, is there a way for someone to browse the conference list without signing up at all? Okay, here's a prototype: New Spring Home Page?"}, {"response": 307, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (19:36)", "body": "Wow!!! Looking great Ann!!!"}, {"response": 308, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (23:36)", "body": "I made the \"Contents\" page too. That is linked at the top of the pages. I tried to sort of combine the list of favorite conferences, the list of hosted websites, and the full list of conferences."}, {"response": 309, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (23:38)", "body": "Going cross-eyed staring at this!!!"}, {"response": 310, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "Give your eyes a rest and please check this for me. I'll check yours now. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/new"}, {"response": 311, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (23:52)", "body": "I like your divider bars. Very pretty. Your buttons at the top are ending up on 2 lines. You might want to force that more. Perhaps by putting in a {br} tag before the \"Search\" or \"Users\" button. That way, you'll end up with 4-5 buttons on the top and 3-4 buttons on the second line. I like the background, though on my laptop it might be a little too dark--not by much though, and laptops are a strange breed."}, {"response": 312, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (09:32)", "body": "I really love it, Ann. Wow. I'll have some detailed comments later, when I get off work, but I'd go ahead nad archive the present page and put that up. There are more Spring logos if you search through the gifs and jpgs. Contents is great!"}, {"response": 313, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (09:56)", "body": "Excellent redesign, Ann! *clap clap* One minor suggestion: Do you want to emphasize the locale so prominently? In this day and age, where something is shouldn't be important and most of Spring's participants are from all over the world. While it is interesting that Spring is based out of Austin, having the two mentions [Austin, Texas Community Town Hall and Everyone's a Texan Here] might be a turnoff or lead people to believe that only Texans would be interested in the goings on at Spring. You know, like it's a local messageboard. Do you understand? No slight to Austinites or Texans intended. Also, Terry are you getting any money from Visto? Have you applied to actually get the rebate? If not, why are you advertising the affiliation so prominently as well?"}, {"response": 314, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (10:14)", "body": "I wondered that too, Karen. I agree with you; the internet is international, and relating it too much to one city might be bad. I made the Membership page too."}, {"response": 315, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (10:29)", "body": "We want to emphasize it some, but empasize our austen.com and firth.com sites and developing sites. Let's tone down the Austin, Texas thing to not turn off folks but still make mention. I don't want to emphasize it as a local messageboard at all."}, {"response": 316, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (10:43)", "body": "...and about that Membership page... Is that how it will be? Have payment methods been set up? I wouldn't put something like that up unless it were 100% accurate. Evidently the Springcom steering group is coming to naught. Will delist myself."}, {"response": 317, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (12:08)", "body": "I just copied the page that was already there for Membership. Working on webhosting now. (just changed the top buttons a bit.)"}, {"response": 318, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (12:33)", "body": "Ann, as soon as I wake up gonna do the breaks where you suggested. Thanks!!!"}, {"response": 319, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (13:41)", "body": "Ann: The question was directed at Terry."}, {"response": 320, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (09:12)", "body": "OK, i can't get in to see ann's design, what gives?"}, {"response": 321, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (09:15)", "body": "I moved it to the front page, just do http://www.spring.net ."}, {"response": 322, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (09:16)", "body": "I changed the Visto ad at the top to be an include. That will make it easier to swap it with something else, if that's ever needed."}, {"response": 323, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (09:17)", "body": "oh wow! ann, you did a great job!!"}, {"response": 324, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (10:48)", "body": "Terry, according to what I'm seeing, this page: http://www.spring.net/webhosting/features.htm is only linked from one other page: http://www.spring.net/webhosting/support/cgi/unix/autoresponder/autoresponder.htm (which is pretty deep into the site) It's quite a usefull page there, going mostly to waste :("}, {"response": 325, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (19:50)", "body": "I agree. We need to add a little version of the webcam gif with a sound link like we had on the old page because quite a few folks are paying me to run this ccontent. The gif is at http://www.spring.net/cap.jpg and the sound link you can grab from the old page. I'm thinking of supporting educational courses on our site, which could be tied in to Barnes and Noble University. I'm not quite sure how to forge this relationship yet, but it's incubating in my mind. So NEED AND IMAGE needs to have the /cap.jpg link to a little jop that will clikc to a bigger picture like on the old page with no size restrictions. Great work Ann, you've done a bunch in very little time. Thanks!@!!!!"}, {"response": 326, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (19:52)", "body": "I almost like the page with all the conferences as the main page with the other buttons that are centered on the main page moved to the left, what do folks think?"}, {"response": 327, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (20:28)", "body": "Can you pic a particularly picturesque picture for the cap.jpg? Since they shift around a lot, I'd like to pick a single one that is attractive."}, {"response": 328, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (21:12)", "body": "I like the conferences on the front page down one side, too. That was our original reason for being here, and still attracts a lot of attention that austen.com does not first attract. I am working on abbout 5 different and interesting and knowledgable men to post in here.....we need to make a complete list of conferences on the front page...not just one of the dozen options (IMHO, of course!)"}, {"response": 329, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (06:38)", "body": "I don't stop by for a few days and HOLY SMOKE! You re-arranged all the furniture!! I like the new look, though I find the colors a bit dark for my taste (I'm a pastel kind-o-grrl). But it's very nice... Congrats to Ann, who ever you are ;-)"}, {"response": 330, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (07:58)", "body": "Sure, let's let it run as the webcam and pick one, anyone who sees a great picture do a right mouse click and save on it and send it in and we'll use that one."}, {"response": 331, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (20:16)", "body": "Geba, gotta turn on the lights when you come back in... trip and you might miss that race....."}, {"response": 332, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (08:59)", "body": "Ann, I put the link to cap.jpg but it needs to be sized to fit in that little frame. Can you do this, 'cause I've been doing all my gif sizing w/ frontpage and am hesitant to impose it on the page after your redesign."}, {"response": 333, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (18:13)", "body": "Where is the cap image? (Usually, you are better off using a graphics program to resize the images than if you use HTML width and height tags to do it. Different browsers treat those differently, and the images usually end up looking funny.) BTW, I've finished converting all the Webhosting pages--there were a ton and a half of them! It took me about 3 days to do all of them--and the Help pages. Only area left is the Affiliates, which shouldn't take long. Terry, do you have a page for webcasting services (like webhosting)? If you are offering that as a service, people should be able to get info for it."}, {"response": 334, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (20:19)", "body": "It's in the virtual_html directory. Since it's an image that changes every 30 seconds, it would be better to use width and height tags in this case. Would you create a basic webcast page at http://www.spring.net/webcast as index.html? If you do I'll go in and add some text content. thanks thanks thanks!"}, {"response": 335, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (22:49)", "body": "BTW, I used Front Page to do the work, so you needent fear using it."}, {"response": 336, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (23:02)", "body": "I made up the Webcasting page. /webcast/index.html."}, {"response": 337, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (23:45)", "body": "Hey thanks and more thanks Ann. It's wonderful what you're doing. I'm winding up an 18 hours day at work and it's so great to finally get this bunch of suns on the Internet. Sot he first thing I did was look at your latest handwork. I'll add some text to that webcasting page. You're so good, Ann!"}, {"response": 338, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (09:48)", "body": "I finally got the chance to look at the redesign on a different computer. Didn't like what I saw :( I'll have to do some tweaking, I think."}, {"response": 339, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (00:54)", "body": "What was the difference between computers? Browsers?"}, {"response": 340, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Jul 28, 2000 (09:37)", "body": "Terry or wer: Someone just created a new topic at Drool. Thought that feature had been shutdown and that only the hosts could do that? porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 34, "subject": "Who did you tell about the Spring lateley?", "response_count": 61, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (12:16)", "body": "i would suggest that the best approach would be to tell folks who you interact with on-line, such as IRC, other chat rooms, AOL, MUDs, etc. the reason i say this is simple: most \"normal\" people in the real world, no matter how cyber-savvy they are, think it is just plain weird to spend time online conferencing with other people, especially when you cant even \"chat with them\" in real time. Spreading the word among your cyber friends means that the message will be heard by someone who already enjoys some form of communication online and who might enjoy it here. just my $0.02!!!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (14:17)", "body": "And a damned good idea it is! It reminds me of the Blues Brothers where they go on a 'mission from God'."}, {"response": 3, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (14:40)", "body": "tried it. they just ain't bitin. make em pay through the nose. then they'll flock :)"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (15:49)", "body": "Quick, someone tell someone.x"}, {"response": 5, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (19:27)", "body": "i told everyone who visited schiffer city. if you visit the site, there's a new frame, with a link to the babes conference, and also to the main spring site. maybe we'll see some more visitors from that?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (19:28)", "body": "i'm very pleased with the updates to Schiffer City. if you haven't visited it, then please indulge me..go on, i'm lovely :) http://www.griggs.demon.co.uk/cs_pics/cs.html"}, {"response": 7, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (19:28)", "body": "hehe...and now i've just discovered a bug :)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (12:12)", "body": "I invited Art McGee and he now has a user account. I quoted him somewhere on the Spring today, I think it was in the Internet and Austin conferences. He hails from Torrance, California."}, {"response": 9, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (01:24)", "body": "That's great! When will he be coming? I invited the gallery boss, but he doesn't have internet!!!!!!! How weird!!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (09:35)", "body": "He logged in yesterday, but didn't surface here. Maybe he just looked around with his periscope. The awesome Brian Zisk will be coming to Austin about the middle of next month to party down with us. Check out Sanfranziskgo! We visited with Brian in his Haight district flat on my last visit to SF. He was a most cordial host."}, {"response": 11, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (13:15)", "body": "Lucky buggers."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (01:28)", "body": "Judy Beeman, username isis. Signed up tonight. She's 15711476 on icq and isis@spring.net. She has a little community of about 350 friends on ICQ and has moved into Mark and Mercedes old room. Welcome her!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (05:27)", "body": "WELCOM JUDY BEEMAN!!!!!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (19:45)", "body": "welcome judy (and not because terry said to do so)!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (22:43)", "body": "well, hellooooo...Judy!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (01:30)", "body": "I think she's silently overwhelmed!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (11:18)", "body": "Hi, Judy, hope to see you around the other conferences."}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (12:56)", "body": "(meekly and mildly) HI JUDY!!!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (13:49)", "body": "Don't believe a word of it, Judy!!!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:37)", "body": "aw c'mon... the greeting was real!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (15:19)", "body": "I think she was referring to the \"meek and mild\" part."}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (15:21)", "body": "*smile* why ever for d'ya think?!?!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (15:23)", "body": "oh, no reason that I'm aware of..."}, {"response": 24, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (01:16)", "body": "except that she ain't!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (21:14)", "body": "no no, it's ok judy, we're always like this!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (01:06)", "body": "except when we're not That's it, she's gone!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (01:08)", "body": "I don't get it. Why do people come once, and then go away again? The first time I found the spring, and put in some responses, I was SOOO excited to see what would happen the next day! I couldn't wait to get back!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "isis", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (20:54)", "body": "*wiping tears from eyes* you guys made me feel so welcomed i just had to say something back ,,,how the heck are ya'll.....well talk with ya'll later bye,,,"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (21:51)", "body": "Here, , have this. Welcome Judy."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (02:45)", "body": "I told this fellow: ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Arthur McGee (Staff) | | Institute for Global Communications http://www.igc.org/ | | Voice: +1-310-515-BYTE Fax: +1-415-561-6101 | | PeaceNet * EcoNet * ConflictNet * WomensNet * LaborNet | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | \"Connecting the People Who Are Changing the World\" | ------------------------------------------------------------------"}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (03:41)", "body": "Mike, since you're from Manchester, will you invite Meg Pickard? Here's a quote from her: \"greetings and salutations to all who pass this way....I am: a) fledgling anthropologist with extensive fieldwork experience in the bolivian andes, researching issues of ritual embodiement and identity. b) really indecisive, it seems, as I am now involved in postgrad research on (surprise, surprise) Internet communities - both ON and OFFlinec) c) eager to follow up any recommendations or contacts anybody might like to pass this way...:) d) The resident computer boffin (their word, not mine) in a wholefood-art-community-cyber-cafe near Manchester, UK - this may explain my interest in not just communities ON the interent, but also those which are cultural products or even constructions of the Internet - and intereseting revere of roles, I think. e) quite willing to talk at length about my interests, research, life, etc etc but...f) airly unwilling to go into all that without a proper introduction. So please consider this my extremely convuluted (and probably mis-spelled) way of saying hello. Hello.\" Homepage: http://www.peakcafe.demon.co.uk/meg mailto://meg-p@usa.net Thanks, Mike, in case you take me up on this."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (03:47)", "body": "Would anyone volunteer to invite: Nelson Wee SingTel 31 Exeter Road #02-00 Podium Blk -, - SG - Tel: 65-8382168 Fax: 65-7321272 Email: mmdancer@pacific.net.sg Personality: Administrator Multimedia, Internet, Latin and Ballroom Dancer Homepage: http://www.byoc.com/homepage/143418"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (03:48)", "body": "Nelson Wee also has a niche vc on electronic commerce at http://www.stems.com"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (04:21)", "body": "Do I sense that Art is close to surfacing? An email I just got: > It would be very cool if you started a topic on race, class and the internet > in the internet conference! I'm sure it would spark an interesting > discussion. Yes, I'll do that, but I need to get used to the system first. I'm still not comfortable with the navigation or commands, because even though it's similar to the WELL, it's just different enough to get on my nerves. %-) Art"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (04:28)", "body": "Would someone email this fellow an invite? Denham Collett Grey 822 N. Campbell Ave., Indianapolis, IN 46219-4517 Voice: (317) 375-8630 Fax: (317) 228-1639 (Please mark: Attention: Denham Grey) mailto://dgrey@iquest.net Expertise Technical and business consultant, advanced systems design, knowledge management, decision support, statistical analysis and expert systems. Project leader: Forestry Information Systems. SAS, PC expert systems, Hypertext, Internet, HTML, GIS, and MCDM. Environmental surveys, soil interpretation and land evaluation. Teaching, research, scientific publications, presentations and technical innovation. Professional Experience Knowledge management: Developed the Planting Advisor, largest commercial expert system in Africa., using fuzzy logic it matched tree types to markets and soils. Roles: expert, project leader, programmed prototype. Constructed systems to interpret soil auger logs, added value to past investments in land evaluation surveys. This GIS was integrated with INFORMIX in a client-server environment. Designed applications to monitor transport costs, schedule, budget and justify forest road repairs. Planned and implemented the Site knowledge repository, conducted intellectual audits, classified tacit and explicit knowledge. This system gives access to team skills and increased productivity 40%. 1996-1997 SAS Data Analyst, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis. (Medical trials consulting) 1995-1997 President, GreyMatter, Inc., Indianapolis, Indiana. (Knowledge management) 1987-1994 Manager Silviculture, HLH Research Division, Natal, South Africa. (Internal consultant) 1979-1987 Specialist Researcher, South African Forest Research Institute.George (Project leader) Knowledge management: internet, data modeling, diagnostics, business rules, conceptual maps (Inspiration), idea generation (Idea Fisher), corporate memory, knowledge audits, intellectual capital. Ph.D. University of Stellenbosch 1987 Cape, South Africa. Major: Computer Modeling M.Sc. University of Natal 1978 Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. Major: Land Classification, Biological Statistics B.Sc. University of Stellenbosch 1972 Major: Forest Management"}, {"response": 36, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (11:20)", "body": "Ooh, a South African!!! I'll do this guy, Terry!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (13:03)", "body": "Thanks Ree."}, {"response": 38, "author": "isis", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (21:30)", "body": "hey the topic is who did you tell well i mentioned this virtual community line to about 35 people that are out of the 350 people on my icq list......hope they come in and meet ya'll will mention to the rest also....enjoy ,,,bye.."}, {"response": 39, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (05:40)", "body": "> Mike, since you're from Manchester Manchester? Nope, I'm not :)) Place of birth, Cambridge; place of residence, Brighton. :-)) However, I will e-mail said person as soon as I get a chance. Or, maybe, one of the ladies would like to do it? You know how funny women can be getting unsolicited e-mail from men ;)))"}, {"response": 40, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (07:10)", "body": "Funny??? In what way? You were born in Cambridge? LOVE the place!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (08:46)", "body": "Oops, misplaced you Mike! Thanks."}, {"response": 42, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (16:15)", "body": "i have found that ladies are sometimes uncomfortable with receiving e-mail from men they don't know. from another woman it would probably be fine, so any of you girls go ahead..."}, {"response": 43, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (17:57)", "body": "sad but true Mike... I am practically unshockable in this realm however when I receive some 'unsolicited email' from someone I do not know and it has even the faintest of lude, crude or suggestive twinges... I truly get really pissed off. From the Clan Apparent however... your attempts at offending me are futile!!!!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (12:23)", "body": "Riette, would you email this person and invite her back for a visit? http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4595/melon.html"}, {"response": 45, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (05:09)", "body": "Sure, I'll do it right away. Will let you know if and when she answers."}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 6, 1998 (21:07)", "body": "Thank you very much!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (03:38)", "body": "Done....no answer so far, but I've not given up hope yet...."}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 27, 1998 (11:15)", "body": "In the UNIX conference, Steven's first post on our system: Topic 2 of 16: 'Linux' Resp 17 of 17: srl (steven) Tue, Oct 27, 1998 (08:38) 7 lines Wow, that's a pretty bad deal (the Trademark suit). I guess someone _had_ to try it. so.. what do people like in the way of 'Real Linux Apps' nowadays? Corel's going to give away their suite for Linux soon, I hear. -steven"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 29, 1998 (17:29)", "body": "Will someone email an invite to this person? i'm reading poetry right now at the writer's center in bethesda, md, and am looking for people who are interested in traditional poetry, eg, hopkins, yeats, bishop, but new stuff also...i write and read..and want people to talk with about music, poetry, especially when at night here, in dc, cant call anyone, they are all gladly asleep and out of my ear-shot...any hopkins lovers out there? mailto://aheutte@clark.net"}, {"response": 50, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 29, 1998 (17:37)", "body": "Will some folks also mind sending out email invites to these folks? Name: Joyce D. Nicotera mailto://jnicotera@snet.net Where I Live: Connecticut If you must know, I'm a curious traveler who likes options. And I don't like closed doors. So, if I find music, drama or laughter in the well (perhaps some science fiction ... Heinlein? some philosophy ... Hesse?)... #### Anita Shanker mailto://ashanker@mindspring.com North Carolina NAME: ANITA SHANKER (A.K.A ATTILA THE HONEY) OCCUPATION: GRADUATE STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA FAVORITE BOOK: BRAVE NEW WORLD BY ALDOUS HUXLEY RUNNER-UP: THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO BY ALEXANDER DUMAS FAVORITE MOVIE: VERTIGO RUNNER-UP: SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS FAVORITE MUSICAL ARTIST: TORI AMOS RUNNER-UP: HOLE FAVORITE TV SHOW: BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER RUNNER-UP: LA FEMME NIKITA 2ND RUNNER-UP: ALLY MCBEAL FAVORITE DISH: NAVRATAN MASALA RUNNER-UP: SHRIMP RISOTTO #### Name: Tom Haber mailto://tomhaber@compuserve.com Where I Live: Colorado I'm 45, living out of the way in Durango Colorado. I do vegetative surveys and GIS mapping for the US Forest Service as my day job. I have a Master's in English; enjoy hiking; backpacking; chess; reading (John Irving, Hunter Thompson, Greil Marcus); the Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan, The Band and other American musics; traveling to New Orleans; and surfing the net! #### mailto://tmgould@best.com Where I Live: California Digital Artist, Graphic Designer, Video Producer, maker of Iris prints. Living in San Francisco..a Florida transplant. Currently looking for full itme work in the internet/interactive design area...a former TV Art Director. Find out more about me at http://www.markgould.net #### Alexandra Tomalonis mailto://tomalonis@balletalert.com Where I Live: Dist. Of Columbia I'm a writer and editor in the print world, new to the Web. I write about dancing, primarily ballet dancing. Interests include politics (I live in Washington; it comes with the air), ideas and the history of ideas, history in general, and Denmark. (The latter has something to do with the dancing.) I used to love reading (almost anything) and watching films, but now I can only enjoy hearing others talk about them; no time. Alexandra Tomalonis #### Find someone on this list who you think would be a good fit here and email them. Maybe you have some things in common with some of these folks. Let's spice things up!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (05:31)", "body": "I told Chad Neff. And he came by and posted an introduction in the vc conference. Please wander by there and give him a warm welcome! Topic 1 of 15: 'intros' Resp 81 of 81: Chad Neff (chadneff) Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (01:15) 6 lines I was going to say that, \"Evidently invitations work, Terry. Thanks for the invite.\" I'm a middle aged guy that's just been wandering around most of my life and I just wandered in here after Terry sent me email. Well Perhaps that's not exactly true. I've done customer support for some local ISPs and I'd like to come to terms with that concept of local. I am keenly interested in what has value to people. Unfortunately, time is always a problem for me, just like everyone else in this pre/inter millenium haze. (I could also use a good spell checker)"}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (07:10)", "body": "More from Chad: Terry, Thanks _again_ for the invitation. I've forwarded your note to my _home_ email account that JeffK set up for me as chad@sanmarcosTX.com. In the mean time I stopped in and the signed up at Spring.Net. If you would, please use the sanmarcosTX.com address for me in the future. I'll work at getting by spring.net and I'll mention the site to a few friends. Rereading that it sounds pretty non-commital but I'm at the end of a very long day and the next one starts in just a few hours. I don't want to close this note by letting fatague mask my appreciation of the amount of work you have obviously done on that site. - chad chad@sanmarcostx.com *** Thanks Chad!!!! ****"}, {"response": 53, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Nov 29, 1998 (20:59)", "body": "come back chad!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 29, 1998 (20:59)", "body": "JeffK, referred to by Chad, is our sysad. Talk to Chad in vc, at least welcome if you choose to do so!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Nov 29, 1998 (20:59)", "body": "TERRY!!! Terry, I did something horrible! I sent the video and your and Tim's cheese to the Cedar Creek Spring Address that's on the main page! Tim says this is NOT where you live! I'm sorry!!! What now????"}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 29, 1998 (20:59)", "body": "No problem at all. Take a deep breath. Relax. Enjoy. That is also my address. I have a house in the country. And I'll call my roomie out there Mahalene (the lady from Pareee) and make sure she holds it!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:46)", "body": "Mike Jasper of this year's Golden Pebbles award fame... e-mailed him an invite about 2 minutes ago..."}, {"response": 58, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (16:21)", "body": "hey, i'm gonna add the poetry conf. to the midnight wolf pack...is that ok?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (17:55)", "body": "yessum...it's your conf...surprised you hadn't already actually, and I've been tempted to do it on several occasions..."}, {"response": 60, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (18:12)", "body": "silly goose! *smile*"}, {"response": 61, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, May 3, 1999 (08:23)", "body": "Dragan from B92 radio in Belgrad. Check out the topic in Radio and International Conflicts conferences for background. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 35, "subject": "The Spring Gallery", "response_count": 542, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (01:48)", "body": "No way!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (01:49)", "body": "As the creator of this topic, I think it only right and proper that you should start, Mikey!!!! And, please, the one with the sideburns - I luv that photo!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (12:03)", "body": "sideburns? umm...not sure which one you mean. how about:"}, {"response": 4, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (12:44)", "body": "YES!!! That's the one! Damn, why do you have to be so young?!?! (Why do I have to be so old?!?!) I love that dark, brooding look you have about you. Makes you very, very interesting in appearance."}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (14:22)", "body": "you look a lot like my best friend in school. haven't seen him in years. we still write though. well, there is NO WAY i'm gonna post my ugly mug for you all to sneer at...."}, {"response": 6, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (16:48)", "body": "awww come on :("}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (19:30)", "body": "Aw common wolfie, pretty please."}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:19)", "body": "*clearing throat*"}, {"response": 9, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:27)", "body": "hehehe :)) now post a real pic :)"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:29)", "body": "hey! that's a real pic!! can't cuz the scanner isn't up and running yet. do you know how long it will take to find a decent picture? can you wait that long?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:32)", "body": "no, so give us any pic :))"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:49)", "body": "yeah, right!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (01:55)", "body": "Wolf, did I ever mention that (though I'm not scared of you personally) I suffer from wolf phobia or something like that. Much as I love animals, and though I have never ever seen a wolf in my life, I am absolutely, irrationally terrified of them. Can't even watch documentaries about them - I'd wee in my pants, I swear."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (10:35)", "body": "really? wow. nothing to be afraid of really, but i respect that. i watch the documentaries on sharks (and i'd definately poo my pants if i met up with one of them bad boys, lemme tell you)...."}, {"response": 15, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (11:39)", "body": "Ha-ha! It's probably because I've never seen a wolf that I'm so scared. On the farm where I grew up one often ran into leopards lying in the trees, and we had two lions, and loads and loads of very-very deadly snakes in trees and holes, on the ground, oh, everywhere in summer, but I was never afraid of them, because i knew them. Suppose it has something to do with fear of the unknown, to put it quite dramatically!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (17:11)", "body": "this is true, i've never met a wolf face-to-face (much less lions and leopards) unless you count zoos."}, {"response": 17, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (01:57)", "body": "Wolf, you know, I'm not seeing Wer or Terry's pictures here - you think the guys are scared of revealing themselves to us? ha-ha- that sounds vulgar, but you know what I mean!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (08:32)", "body": "Terry flashes by every so often on the main page..."}, {"response": 19, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (15:09)", "body": "Is he the guy with the big beard and the pony - 'cos that's the only guy I ever see there. Well, wether he is or not, I find that guy totally attractive - reminds me alot of my husband, who also has that big beard thing, and loads of dark hair. And that rough, ruggeddyness - totally love it."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (15:55)", "body": "No pony here."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (15:55)", "body": "What is the guy with the beard and pony wearing?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (19:48)", "body": "terry's the geezer with the beard and the glasses. look out for him."}, {"response": 23, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (01:46)", "body": "Well, then that IS the same guy. And he HAS a pony, I swear! I saw it! I always sense the presence of a pony on those pictures of him. You're just pretending not to have a pony, aren't you, Terry. (I never look at what you're wearing, but I think the overall colour is a nice, virginal white...)"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (13:06)", "body": "Gosh, it's so great someone's looking at my video! Feedback!!!!!!!! Love it!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (14:51)", "body": "See, Mike? Told you he had a pony!!! Neh-neh-neh-neh!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (21:06)", "body": "It's black and white, but this is about the best one of me that I have..."}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (22:34)", "body": "oh wer, you animal you, i had no idea! *gasp*"}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (01:25)", "body": "Literally rolling on the floor laughing myself to bits!!!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (14:05)", "body": ":-) prat :)"}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (15:57)", "body": "WER... you cut your hair!!!!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (03:51)", "body": "I CUT HIS HAIR, REMEMBER?! What? Can't you distinguish his rear end from the front????"}, {"response": 32, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (21:28)", "body": "ROTFLOL at all of you!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (04:20)", "body": "this is my going-out outfit (i'm on the second row, left-hand side) *grin*"}, {"response": 34, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (07:48)", "body": "Mike, you have the most piercing eyes I have ever seen on a man. They're just so round, so full of emotion . . . \ufffdcatching my breath\ufffd"}, {"response": 35, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (08:07)", "body": "shame i've got three of em, eh? :)))"}, {"response": 36, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (13:08)", "body": "No, that's the best part. One to look into a woman's eyes, one to look at her bosom, one to keep watch while you fondle her . . . ha-ha, couldn't resist that wicked thought."}, {"response": 37, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (15:43)", "body": "euwwww:)"}, {"response": 38, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (01:13)", "body": "What does euwww mean?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (01:46)", "body": "icky...yucky...gross..."}, {"response": 40, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (04:19)", "body": "Something like disgusting then. How delicious."}, {"response": 41, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (09:29)", "body": "Exactly!!!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (11:16)", "body": "ha-ha! Looks like everybody's asleep, doesn't it. Am I the only person on this conference who has nothing better to do with their free time??????? How depressing! I just find it so relaxing coming here - especially as Chris always brings a cup of tea through . . . . that room service thing, you know."}, {"response": 43, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (21:29)", "body": "where can i get an outfit like that one mike? *grin*"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (23:32)", "body": "All the pictures of me, past girlfriends, family, etc. are in my family album which you can get to from my home page, http://www.spring.net/~terry/albumjpg"}, {"response": 45, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 2, 1998 (16:26)", "body": "you sure are one brave fellow there terry..."}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 2, 1998 (17:44)", "body": "Pick one and I'll post it here!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (11:51)", "body": "Paul1130.jpg"}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (17:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 49, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (01:16)", "body": "I like the way you look, Terry. Wonder if I should do a portrait . . ."}, {"response": 50, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (11:24)", "body": "Wow!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (16:27)", "body": "Yeah? Thought you might be insulted."}, {"response": 52, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (20:26)", "body": "Terry, are you as straight-laced as you look, or is there a wild man lurking beneath that Brooks Brothers exterior? :-)"}, {"response": 53, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (00:29)", "body": "There's a Brook Brothers interior lurking under my wild man looks."}, {"response": 54, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (01:13)", "body": "ha-ha!!! For a tame man you have rather dark and broody eyes though, so I don't know if we should believe you."}, {"response": 55, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (22:29)", "body": "LOL!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (22:59)", "body": "Dark and broody eyes. Ohmygod. I thought I had clear, light blue eyes all this time."}, {"response": 57, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (23:08)", "body": "But they are piercing and intense."}, {"response": 58, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (05:04)", "body": "Yes - and therefore broody and dark. Enormous depth an all that. And the piercing bit of course. RAY!!! Why is there not a photo of you here?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (06:53)", "body": "Who else are we missing?"}, {"response": 60, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (08:16)", "body": "Autumn, Stacey, Wolf, Wer."}, {"response": 61, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (08:36)", "body": "I got Stacey's in the mail...will have them up by the end of the week (I hope...)"}, {"response": 62, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (10:09)", "body": "do you really want to see me in all my fatness?"}, {"response": 63, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (16:26)", "body": "Absolutely!!! After all, I let you see me in all my dullness! It's just really nice to know what one's friends look like, Friend."}, {"response": 64, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (06:24)", "body": "You hardly look dull. Pert, fresh, vivacious, maybe. But not dull."}, {"response": 65, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (06:46)", "body": "Wow - think I'm blushing heavily here, and not because of the tomatoes. What on earth did I do to deserve such a great compliment?"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (06:49)", "body": "Everything."}, {"response": 67, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (06:55)", "body": "Stop that! I can't stand it when people are so sweet with me - makes me want to cry."}, {"response": 68, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (10:58)", "body": "need a tissue? just don't bawl into my fur, k? (hard to get slobber out)"}, {"response": 69, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (11:09)", "body": "No, hell, I'll just blow my nose on your tail - ha-ha!!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (16:54)", "body": "Thank you, ladies, for giving me my visual of the day..."}, {"response": 71, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (01:18)", "body": "ha-ha!!!! And if you're good we'll let you scoop up the remains with your best spatula!!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (02:14)", "body": "bet it'll make one helluva fondue..."}, {"response": 73, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (02:48)", "body": "if you don't mind green fondue"}, {"response": 74, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (23:56)", "body": "It's the best! (especially on purple food...)"}, {"response": 75, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (06:12)", "body": "Purple!!! Eauw-yuksies!"}, {"response": 76, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (16:35)", "body": "here it is. please, no children allowed. hide your pets. don't look for more than a few seconds at a time. wash your hands after looking. http://www.well.com/users/ratthing/ray.jpg"}, {"response": 77, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (16:37)", "body": "let's try that again....."}, {"response": 78, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (16:37)", "body": "it says it ain't there, Ray..."}, {"response": 79, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (16:44)", "body": "ok, one more time..."}, {"response": 80, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (16:47)", "body": "Your fiance\ufffd is a very lucky woman! I'd feel safe as a tortoise under your belt!"}, {"response": 81, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (16:48)", "body": "Oh, by the way - very very pleased to meet you, bear-thing."}, {"response": 82, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (16:51)", "body": "ha! i used to be a boxer and i guess it still shows."}, {"response": 83, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (21:30)", "body": "Hey, nice to \"see\" ya, science guy!"}, {"response": 84, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (21:32)", "body": "you're not in Florida are you? (just cuz my scanner's up doesn't mean i'm gonna run right out and get a photo on here)"}, {"response": 85, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (02:02)", "body": "Of course it does! Go on Wolfie, we're dying to look into yer yellow eyes. And Autumn, what? Will we never get to see you either?"}, {"response": 86, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (12:57)", "body": "remember, if you don't want to know, don't look... these be me..."}, {"response": 87, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (13:36)", "body": "\ufffdrolling on the floor, laughing myself to bits!!!!\ufffd Got here first again!!! NOW I'll believe you when you say you've got a hairy ar$e!!! WOW - there's enough there to make ANY girl jealous. And you look exactly as I pictured you - even without the cigar and white hat! I have some of these photo booth shots of Sonja and me too, pulling faces into the camera, and giggling over it - they are absolutely HIDEOUS! But we had great fun at it!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (13:55)", "body": "HAHA!!! you look like i imagined. i have photo booth pics too but i think i burned them all. how long ago was this one taken? or did you make a special trip to the mall?"}, {"response": 89, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (16:32)", "body": "four or so years ago..."}, {"response": 90, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (01:43)", "body": "And do you still have the hair?"}, {"response": 91, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (08:48)", "body": "most of it..."}, {"response": 92, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (10:15)", "body": "Lucky man! Though I must say in some men boldness can be just as attractive. Just glad I'm not a man!!! I never want to be bold."}, {"response": 93, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (10:36)", "body": "*raised eyebrow* by most, I meant shorter, not gone..."}, {"response": 94, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (11:27)", "body": "LOL!! btw, women can suffer from hairloss as well :("}, {"response": 95, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (20:37)", "body": "(not to mention mange, eh Wolf? :-) Wer, you look EXACTLY how I pictured you, except I thought you would be fair-haired--and I never pictured the beard, just a mustache. Also, I expected your hairline to be a little recessed, but I got the hair length right! (*feeling very pleased with myself*) Maybe I'll take my camera to my brother's this week and have them developed and scanned for next week."}, {"response": 96, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (10:37)", "body": "Wer, the 'Lucky Man' was meant for you! Didn't mean YOU were going bold, just men in general. Touchy subject!!! ha-ha! But I musn't joke, I might go bold myself, and you'll all laugh at me!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (11:21)", "body": "what was that Autumn? too busy scratching *grin*"}, {"response": 98, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (15:43)", "body": "nice to see your face again WER! (HI EVERYONE!!!)"}, {"response": 99, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (17:24)", "body": "Hi!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (18:30)", "body": "HI!!!"}, {"response": 101, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (22:42)", "body": "I promise to get yours up in here as soon as I can, Stacey... still haven't completely figured out the scanner..."}, {"response": 102, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (12:58)", "body": "no hurry... I know exactly what I look like."}, {"response": 103, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (13:19)", "body": "as do I...to a point, that is..."}, {"response": 104, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:37)", "body": "the rest is fun to imagine, no?"}, {"response": 105, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:45)", "body": "'tis true, 'tis true"}, {"response": 106, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (11:22)", "body": "as promised, here's Stacey..."}, {"response": 107, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (12:01)", "body": "Good picture! Look at those rosy lips and those cool bangs! She's lookin' ecstatic."}, {"response": 108, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (13:46)", "body": "Gorgeous - very Italian."}, {"response": 109, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (15:14)", "body": "And safety-conscious, too! Good to see you bucklin' up, Stacey! Great photo, so who's the guy?"}, {"response": 110, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (01:29)", "body": "Mr. B., of course!!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (03:03)", "body": "how funny to see myself literally at the Spring! No more bangs now Paul... that pic was from December of 1996. Yes, that's Brandon kinda contorted as he took the pic while driving (sorry safety-conscious ones, I know!) Thanks WER, that was fun! (would'ya send me the electronic format of those sometime?)"}, {"response": 112, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (03:07)", "body": "yep...although the first scan of that one was over 3 megs in size..."}, {"response": 113, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (03:15)", "body": "Woo Woo! I am LARGE!"}, {"response": 114, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (17:09)", "body": "You ain't LARGE, baybee, yo is thin, thin, thin."}, {"response": 115, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (05:54)", "body": "Lovely to see you wer, Ray and Stacey :) Just Autumn and Wolf to go now, methinks..."}, {"response": 116, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (16:28)", "body": "I SWEAR I'm picking up my photos from the supermarket this weekend. Very soon, now..."}, {"response": 117, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 19, 1998 (20:17)", "body": "i almost went to a color photo booth in the mall! don't worry, it'll show up one of these days and then you'll wish it hadn't!!"}, {"response": 118, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Sep 19, 1998 (22:49)", "body": "just tell me you'll be in uniform..."}, {"response": 119, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (08:41)", "body": "haha!!"}, {"response": 120, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (11:10)", "body": "Kristen has her picture in babes."}, {"response": 121, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (11:16)", "body": "we know that already!! *grin*"}, {"response": 122, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (21:07)", "body": "Yes, Wolf, we want to see you in your dress greens or BDUs! Are you enlisted, NCO, or officer? The NCOs get to hold that cool sword at their annual ball."}, {"response": 123, "author": "kristen", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (21:53)", "body": ""}, {"response": 124, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (21:54)", "body": "So long as you don't forget to tuck in your tail and ears!"}, {"response": 125, "author": "kristen", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (21:55)", "body": "This is me(redhead) and my best friend Eden on my birthday in 97."}, {"response": 126, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (22:05)", "body": "and you were how old?"}, {"response": 127, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (22:50)", "body": "Ever the tactful Satanist he is...."}, {"response": 128, "author": "kristen", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (02:12)", "body": "25 fyi"}, {"response": 129, "author": "kristen", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (02:13)", "body": "My next birthday on Wed. Sepy 23."}, {"response": 130, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (10:43)", "body": "Tomorrow!"}, {"response": 131, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (16:24)", "body": "Ummm...Kirsten....ummm....*dribbling* :)"}, {"response": 132, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (16:47)", "body": "Kirsten's nice too. She's the lady who did our currently running Spring video, there are parts of it that are very intriguing."}, {"response": 133, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (01:25)", "body": "Happy Birthday, Kristen!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "kristen", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (01:35)", "body": "Thanks Riette...you're the first today!"}, {"response": 135, "author": "kristen", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (01:36)", "body": "Mike...my name is Kristen, not Kirsten."}, {"response": 136, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (01:58)", "body": "So, what are you going to do today? Big party? Remember to send the photos!"}, {"response": 137, "author": "kristen", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (02:45)", "body": "Nothing special...had an awful week so far. Hope it get's better."}, {"response": 138, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (03:06)", "body": "Whyfor has it been awful?"}, {"response": 139, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (05:13)", "body": "and thank you for your gift to us... it was good to see your name out and about in the conferences..."}, {"response": 140, "author": "wer", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (06:13)", "body": "and another thought, Kristen: you oughta hostess the health conference and work a little ressucitation magic on it..."}, {"response": 141, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (06:26)", "body": "I know what her favorite topic in health would be . . . ER"}, {"response": 142, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (09:36)", "body": "By the way, on the birthday girl subject, have you seen all the new pictures on Kristen's web site? Check out http://www.spring.net/kristen"}, {"response": 143, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (10:27)", "body": "Picture of me and my girlfriend at the time, Salli Rasberry, at my place in Occidental, CA. She's the co-author of \"Honest Business\" and \"Starting a One Person Business\"."}, {"response": 144, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (10:29)", "body": "And, going even further back in time, here's my grandma Ruth Walhus:"}, {"response": 145, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (10:31)", "body": "And, at one point in my life, I was 12 years old. (Just to prove that wearing cowboy hats did make my ears stick out)."}, {"response": 146, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (10:33)", "body": "And, here holding my sister Alice (can she be enjoying this?):"}, {"response": 147, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (11:18)", "body": "hey! weren't you in \"Leave it to Beaver??\""}, {"response": 148, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (11:31)", "body": "sure you don't mean \"Our Gang,\" Ray?"}, {"response": 149, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (13:45)", "body": "sorry about your name Kristen - darn my tybnpig figners"}, {"response": 150, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (13:45)", "body": "Oh, SWEET photos, Terry! I LOVE looking through other people's photo albums, so keep them coming! I'll send some of my family too!"}, {"response": 151, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (13:48)", "body": "Please! Put up some of little Riette."}, {"response": 152, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (13:50)", "body": "Hey baby, how do you like my new wheels?"}, {"response": 153, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (14:21)", "body": "Riette - you're here!"}, {"response": 154, "author": "kristen", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (16:19)", "body": "What a cute kid...look at that blonde hair!!!"}, {"response": 155, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (16:35)", "body": "Hey, where are your kid pictures, Kristen? We need to get that scanner working on some of your pictures."}, {"response": 156, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (16:53)", "body": "Happy birthday, Kristen. Terry, gotta love that one of you & your sister. Very sweet and natural. Are you close?"}, {"response": 157, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (14:39)", "body": "We are pretty close. She recently got married for the first time and lives a very happy life in the SF Bay area."}, {"response": 158, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (18:01)", "body": "cool pics Paul!!"}, {"response": 159, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (18:27)", "body": "Ok, wer, I promised. This board will never see posting again!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (18:28)", "body": ""}, {"response": 161, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (18:31)", "body": ""}, {"response": 162, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (23:23)", "body": "my turn... here's Marcia..."}, {"response": 163, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (23:26)", "body": "near as I can tell, you just forgot your quotes... no biggie!"}, {"response": 164, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (23:53)", "body": ""}, {"response": 165, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (10:05)", "body": "What are you selling, Marcia?"}, {"response": 166, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (10:14)", "body": "Looks like some UH memoribilia (univ of houston?) (hawaii?)"}, {"response": 167, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (14:30)", "body": "Oh Good! You did not think I lived like that! I am a volunteer - Hours are unending and the pay is nonexistant, but the rewards are priceless. Yes, I am selling \"stuff\" for the University of Hawaii at Hilo. The proceeds go to fill in gaps in scholarship and equipment funding caused by budget cuts in the State Legislature. Hanging around college students is a great way to stay young, and some are actually sending their kids to play for us next year. I cannot have been doing this that long?! T is was the outdoor stand at a softball tournament. At Volleyball, I sit at the end of the gym in a corner and have to dodge errant spiked balls. Despite my best efforts, I usually get whacked by a few. No Volunteer's Comp, either. Thanks for asking. Could you see that our Logo is an erupting volcano? We really have one!"}, {"response": 168, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (14:38)", "body": "Thanks for posting me, wer. I did not realize you did or I would not have done it a second time. I have enough posting fun in Drool 72. It shall be a fun week with Solstice coming. BTW, Gentelmen, Happy Father's Day!"}, {"response": 169, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (07:16)", "body": "marcia marcia marcia!! great pic, sweetie (and hawaii to boot)....."}, {"response": 170, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (22:42)", "body": "Oh, you stole my line, Wolf!!! :-) Welcome, Marcia! Sounds like a fun way to spend some free time."}, {"response": 171, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:34)", "body": "i've been dying to use that one, autumn! *grin*"}, {"response": 172, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:42)", "body": "?"}, {"response": 173, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:49)", "body": "alex: from the brady bunch"}, {"response": 174, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:58)", "body": "okidoki."}, {"response": 175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (22:07)", "body": "Sheesh! I get wallowing in drool too long and I find I have missed the profundities going on down here. Happy to provide you with a little reminsicing on the finer points of TV in the 70's or whenever the Bradys were doing their thing. Some of these guys are definitely too young to remember them, and the truly lucky have just plain erased them from the hard drive of their minds. At least you did not say, \"John!\" (I am grateful for little things!) Oh yes, I will be back at it next weekend when the Little League has their local championships at the University fields."}, {"response": 176, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (22:12)", "body": "Ooh! Where are my manners?! Thank you for the warm welcome. And, for those who have not the slightest clue about Little League and what it entails, it is Baseball for Elementary School kids (they play on the smaller Softball field) and for Intermediate School kids (who play on the larger Baseball field). They use a hard ball just like major league baseball and pitch overhand. Quite impressive, and very cute."}, {"response": 177, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "that is, until the parents start pushing the kids too hard (have seen that in person, not cute at all)....just let the kids play! there's enough pressure when they grow up. k...i'm done... glad to see you in these parts again marcia *smile*"}, {"response": 178, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (13:24)", "body": "John! (Happy to oblige, Marcia!)"}, {"response": 179, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (18:42)", "body": "Oh Wolfie, don't tell me the parents get to stay and watch, too?! Actually, while we were watching practice the other night one irate parent, nor satisfied with yelling from the sidelines, stormed onto the field and yelled at his son on first base. I could have throttled him, and might have tried had I not been bodily hauled away and taken to dinner where cooler heads prevailed. It's gonna be a rough week! Thanks, Alex (*smile*)"}, {"response": 180, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (18:52)", "body": "i can't believe it, this is supposed to be fun! i know a parent who pushes his son to be in everything sport's related (ok, football and baseball). sometimes the boy just doesn't want to play (he's 10). his twin sisters (6 yrs) were in a t-ball league this summer and i went to one game. some of those parents were terrible! i had fun routing for everybody! there weren't any losers (didn't keep track of who won or lost) which i thought was genius! the girls did great but some of the other kids had too mu h pressure on them. that dad deserved to be throttled...."}, {"response": 181, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (21:19)", "body": "Oh Wolf, you and I need to go to a game!!! We could change a kid's whole life with that outlook on sports! I agree entirely! I am there to have fun. Our collegiate teams lose a lot - but they do it with class and everyone has a pot luck for them afterward. That's my idea of sport!"}, {"response": 182, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (22:58)", "body": "mine too!!"}, {"response": 183, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (01:35)", "body": "potluck as sport...think I could actually go to the practices for that..."}, {"response": 184, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (14:04)", "body": "*lol* I imagine there would be a large turnout! That is how we perfected the Jellyfish salad?! BTW, how did you know that it contained real jellyfish? Have you ever tasted it? Tell us all about it because your report is about as close as I plan to get to one."}, {"response": 185, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (14:53)", "body": "seen it made on television and have a couple of recipes for it...never actually had it..."}, {"response": 186, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (16:46)", "body": "jellyfish salad? gross!!"}, {"response": 187, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (16:53)", "body": "I posted a picture of it on Drool 72 and it was very tasty-looking. I think it had a great sauce and the jellyfish and been julienned (that takes some skill one would think!) and coated with a nice peanut-brittle-colored batter. I imagine it is like eating raw fish. I love it, but the fish is really almost tasteless. It is the great sauce which makes the difference."}, {"response": 188, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (16:56)", "body": "well i say just eat the sauce!"}, {"response": 189, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (17:09)", "body": "but..but...you're still hungry if you do that. Of course, quick returning jellyfish might cause the same sensation! Yeesh!"}, {"response": 190, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (18:55)", "body": "hmmmm.....got me there!"}, {"response": 191, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (01:13)", "body": "it's made with dried jellyfish that has been reconstituted..."}, {"response": 192, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (11:25)", "body": "why does that sound like regurgitation to me? must be the animal instinct....at any rate, that still seems gross!!"}, {"response": 193, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (14:15)", "body": "The picture makes it look very edible. It is one of those dishes one should not be told about till after one has tasted it. Preferably, w a y after! Surrounded by the world's largest ocean, I have to use reconstituted Jellyfish? Doesn't seem right, somehow. But, thanks wer, I never would have known. Will search them out at the grocery and report back what they look like all shrunken and dried."}, {"response": 194, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (00:15)", "body": "My kids loved the free jellyfish snow cones they got after every t-ball game. ;-)"}, {"response": 195, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (01:11)", "body": "Please tell me they are not made from fresh or reconstituted Jellyfish!"}, {"response": 196, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (22:53)", "body": "LOL!!"}, {"response": 197, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (15:35)", "body": "This is the David the Geologist. Check Geo Conference if you are wondering what he is doing in here. Oh, yes, He is also my son. =)"}, {"response": 198, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (16:06)", "body": "sure hope he's not planning on leaping out *grin*"}, {"response": 199, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "No, actually he was preparing to board. At least, that is what he told his Mom *huge grin*"}, {"response": 200, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (14:56)", "body": "Ok Wolf, where is your picture. Email it to me if necessary (I promise to share it with no one!) Someone I have felt as close to, as I do to you, I need to be able to visualize. And, if you think you are funny-looking in your pix, just go back and look at mine. (all 2 of them!)"}, {"response": 201, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 18, 1999 (10:26)", "body": "i'll see what i can find, marcia! (if you go back through this topic, however, you'll find a nice wolfie picture *grin*)"}, {"response": 202, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 18, 1999 (11:46)", "body": "OK. but as I was scribbling one of double pictures I hunted for you, saw all of the guys and Terry's whole life flashed before my monitor...but no Wolfie. Will check again. You're a pretty neat lady and seeing you would help me know you a little better. Thanks!"}, {"response": 203, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 18, 1999 (12:06)", "body": "Wow, I found you at 35.8 and I am wondering if you can type at all with those claws!"}, {"response": 204, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 18, 1999 (13:52)", "body": "*grin*"}, {"response": 205, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 22, 1999 (23:32)", "body": "Our Lovely Autumn Moore"}, {"response": 206, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (09:43)", "body": "WooWoo Autumn! Great to put a face with the name (and witty remarks!) Certainly babe topic worthy!!"}, {"response": 207, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (10:44)", "body": "Thank you, Marcia!! Stacey, now imagine my hair a few inches shorter and a light auburn shade. And while you're at it, deduct 10 pounds! (hell, make it 20!)"}, {"response": 208, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (11:58)", "body": "And I'll deduct some age, too. Had you all guessed wrong. Didn't you know I love to be proven wrong in such delightful ways?"}, {"response": 209, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (12:55)", "body": "Now, as to the rest of you hiding behind your monitors, email me your pictures and I shall do the same for you. Alexander, we are most curious to see the head encasing that brilliant mind, and Wolf, no more hiding. Anyone else??? My email works... marci@aloha.net"}, {"response": 210, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (13:14)", "body": "*anxiously awaiting*"}, {"response": 211, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (13:18)", "body": "*frowning* have no great pics to send, really, i don't! besides, well, you'll think i'm fishing for complements, but am so painfully shy and not much to look at *blush* autumn: your pic is great. the first shot made me look twice because the way the light is on your dress, it looked very risque *smile*"}, {"response": 212, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (13:34)", "body": "oh WOlfie *hug* we already love you... we just wanted a visual to go with (no pressure though... I can live a bit longer with the images in my head... a week or two...) *smile*"}, {"response": 213, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (14:14)", "body": "Wolfie, Dear...Mine is up there and I am older than anyone here by at least 20 years. If that is not enough to frighten anyone out of posting a picture, I do not know what is. I am not pretty, beautiful, build like a brick whatever and there has been no drool shed over me that I am aware of. It is just me. I hope my picture did not offend, and the postings after William put it up were nice enough to convince me I had done the right thing. Enough said."}, {"response": 214, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (15:43)", "body": "you guys are silly *big hugs*"}, {"response": 215, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 23, 1999 (23:25)", "body": "wow"}, {"response": 216, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (10:34)", "body": "LOL, Wolf, they ran that picture of me in the local paper (it was taken at my 15 year class reunion) and I got a lot of phone calls on that dress!! My mother said, \"Who do think you are, Cher??\" I am so sick of telling people in the supermarket, \"It was the lighting!! The lighting was funny!\""}, {"response": 217, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (13:15)", "body": "Sheesh, why didn't I think to post my Cher picture?! Oh well...(resuming my paper bag wearing while I watch other people drool...)"}, {"response": 218, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 18, 1999 (08:20)", "body": "DAVID the geologist is absolutely GORGEOUS!"}, {"response": 219, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 18, 1999 (12:38)", "body": "Thank you! I think so, too. He is also very nice *smiling proudly and modestly*"}, {"response": 220, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (01:11)", "body": ""}, {"response": 221, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (01:17)", "body": "God! It didn't look that big and grainy when I sent it. But even at that, it more than does me justice!"}, {"response": 222, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (01:29)", "body": "Marcia, Still can't find Riette's pic although I'm sure she's gorgeous. I love her posts. By the way, that's a great picture of you in your element. You and Ray are the backbone of the Vulcan Boosters."}, {"response": 223, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (01:34)", "body": "Thank you - Ree's photo location is on its way to you. Email..."}, {"response": 224, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (01:58)", "body": "And yes, Marcia, Kristin and Riette are both babes as well. Funny, there are two babes in both pics. In Riette's case, the other babe is a bit more literal."}, {"response": 225, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (13:05)", "body": "Hey John! Nice pic!"}, {"response": 226, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (18:02)", "body": "wow, watcha do, john? put your face on the scanner? and how'd you manage that without squishing your nose? see, because this may be the only way you get a pic of this wolfie! all joking aside, nice pic mr chips! ree is gorgeous so ignore what she says about herself. we all love her dearly!"}, {"response": 227, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (20:10)", "body": "my nose is squished....normally, it's the size of Jimmy Durante's!"}, {"response": 228, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (20:13)", "body": "Looks like the dot matrix self-photos on county fair T-shirts"}, {"response": 229, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "(No, your nose is NOT...stop telling the ladies things liket that...you have someone who know all about you here, remember?!) If you think that pix looks like dot matrix, try shrinking it with MGI Photo Suite. You turn into modern art! That is why your photo used so much room. I used two different photo programs and neither one could handle resizing this particular photo. Most curious!"}, {"response": 230, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (20:30)", "body": "didja try the height and width tags in the command line? (it does look like a t-shirt from the booth in the mall!)"}, {"response": 231, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (20:48)", "body": "(head on keyboard)....No I did not...and I should have!!! Sorry, If it takes up too much space I will scribble it and redo it. What do you think? (Actually after doing the resizing in much the same way on my porgrams, I think the result would not have been acceptable.)"}, {"response": 232, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (22:12)", "body": "Nice to see you, John! Love the Hawaiian shirt!"}, {"response": 233, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (22:13)", "body": "Nice to see you, John! Love the Hawaiian shirt! (although I guess over there you just call them \"shirts\")"}, {"response": 234, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 19, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "Actually, we all call them Aloha Shirts, and on Fridays everyone dresses Hawaiian and it is called Aloha Friday. Very nice, indeed."}, {"response": 235, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 20, 1999 (21:15)", "body": "doesn't it seem a bit, um, redundant? that would be like us wearing our bdu's and calling it casual day *grin*"}, {"response": 236, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 20, 1999 (22:22)", "body": "Yup...but with flowers in the hair and Hawaiian music instead of elevator music, and beautifully tailored dresses and shirts, it is most attractive. At least the men do not have to wear a necktie. BDU....Blue Dress Uniform? Black Dress Uniform? Necktie for everyone!!!"}, {"response": 237, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (09:55)", "body": "Battle Dress Uniforms..."}, {"response": 238, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (12:05)", "body": "Thank you...The Marine did not know what it was. I was guessing. I guess that includes the 60-pound backpack or however much they are required to carry into battle?"}, {"response": 239, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (12:09)", "body": "*grin* actually, i wear the bdu all the time, it's the maintenance background in me. we have casual friday's but it's for the civilians in the squadron. if we wear civi's (you know, real clothes), it's because there's some other function going on."}, {"response": 240, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "Are there such things as fatigues anymore, or are they called something else?"}, {"response": 241, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (17:39)", "body": "BDU: Basic Duty Uniform"}, {"response": 242, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (17:53)", "body": "That makes more sense. Thanks Ray...glad to see you here again, and as you see, he is back and promises to return later...*smile*"}, {"response": 243, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (19:45)", "body": "fatigues were fazed out several years ago. i'm not sure if the army still wears them. i think we've all moved into battle dress."}, {"response": 244, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (20:14)", "body": "army's BDUs too, wolfie. is BDU = Battle Dress Uniform?"}, {"response": 245, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (21:25)", "body": "yes indeedy!"}, {"response": 246, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (21:34)", "body": "How little a civilian knows. This one would like to imagine how you dress for the day of duty. Helmet, weapon, provisions and everything you will need including your trenching tool...just to go to the motor pool or whatever your assignment is?! Battle uniform sounds like you will be under fire and are dressed and outfitted for that eventuality. Is it like that really?"}, {"response": 247, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (15:02)", "body": "depends on where you are. the cops dress that way. the battle dress uniform is considered the working uniform and the blue uniform is the dress uniform."}, {"response": 248, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (15:26)", "body": "Ah yes, the Dress Blue Uniform. Donning that is like Superman in the phone booth. In both cases when you emerge all attired in your uniforms I will follow you anywhere. Have not seen a dress one I would not follow (with, perhaps, the excetption of those blue tights and cape ...)"}, {"response": 249, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (16:18)", "body": "Put Colin Firth in a Royal Navy officer's uni and you'd follow him, too. But, of course, Colin doesn't need the uniform--or in his line of work, costume. I remember women going gaga over Tom Selleck in his U.S. naval officer dress whites on \"Magnum.\" But then, women generally go gaga over him, anyway."}, {"response": 250, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (17:16)", "body": "I met Tom when he played Volleyball in the Haili Tournament the first year he was in Magnum. He was adorable, and very personable. He is a true Babe - one who thinks he is not! I was accosted by every female thereafter for not getting his autograph. Sorry, but I do not use friendships to do that sort of thing, and he was there as a VB player for Outrigger Masters. They won!!! CF looks good in or out of anything he choses to wear...I have pictures both ways *B I G grin* He will be in a new series filmed for ITN (or is it ITV in Britain?!) and he will be in tight breeches again...*sigh*"}, {"response": 251, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (17:57)", "body": "Tom is a nice guy. I used to play softball with him on the old Columbia Inn Round Tablers team in Honolulu. He could hit the thing out of sight. Being around Tom was likely the only time Joe Moore (another Round Tabler and Hawaii's numero-uno TV news anchor, for the uninitiated) found women ignoring him!"}, {"response": 252, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (17:58)", "body": ""}, {"response": 253, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (18:06)", "body": "Joe Moore, our most excellent News Anchor has aged well...*another sigh* My list could go on and on - but no one would know the local hunks if I mentioned them, so it would not be fair. Local boy who made good is Monday Night Football's noisy play-by-play guy, but I am not even going to mention him in the same category as Joe, and neither am I gonna mention another local boy made good, Larry Beal (Aku's son) from ESPN. Bleah!"}, {"response": 254, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (20:27)", "body": "Hawaii has kinda co-opted Al Michaels. Despite the fact that he was only here for two years...and said some rather unpleasant things about a certain ethnic group on MNF once. Larry Beil was born and raised in Honolulu. You may or may not know it, Marcia, but Larry is Ted Sax's illegitimate son (Larry hates Ted)."}, {"response": 255, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (20:44)", "body": "maybe i should move to hawaii and meet some of these folks. of course, i'm not a groupie or anything but i did chase after 38 special when they were leaving a local club after a mini concert. the older band members were much cooler than the new. the new ones were like, and you're here for what? the older ones were like, cool, thanks for coming. my first concert ever...*sigh*"}, {"response": 256, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (21:06)", "body": "Oh yes, NOT Aku's...huh! Ted, the neo-more-Catholic-then-the-Pope convert...that is right. Now I remember...I know that there is no love lost with Larry (has he changed his name spelling again?!) Wolfie, only in Hawaii do we know this much about so many people. It is a v e r y tiny state, is it not, John!"}, {"response": 257, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (21:09)", "body": "perhaps, one day, i'll vacation there with the family. would love to see the flora and fauna of the state...."}, {"response": 258, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (21:33)", "body": "I would love to be your guide. I know about anything you need to know, but son't drive, so I could be navigator =)"}, {"response": 259, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (00:47)", "body": "It is a very tiny state. Larry and I had classes together at Manoa in 1982 before he got into TV and I was working overnights at KQMQ-FM. Then when I was doing mornings at KPOI, he was already at KGMB and also did our morning sports report (on the phone), His half-sister, Jan (Sax) Sage, was our production director. She was one of the best impressionists (vocal, not painting), I've ever heard. I don't remember Larry ever spelling his name any other way than Beil. He'd love to come back to Hawaii, bu openings are rare and he could only make half the money he makes at ESPN. His wife hates Bristol, Connecticut. I get an occasional e-mail from Larry (maybe twice a year). He's asked me not to send him jokes....he barely has time to keep up with biz related stuff. Wolfie, I can drive and have a big car. Marcia can still navigate!"}, {"response": 260, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (01:03)", "body": "This is true. John drives an Land Yacht. I have maps and all sorts of visual aids...but bring your asbestos boots...I'm gonna get you on that hot lava!!! Interesting about Jan Sax - what is she doing now? Had not heard her name forever! I guess you are right about Larry and his last name...the more I look at it...*smile* Good to chat with you here, John!"}, {"response": 261, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (01:23)", "body": "Jan left her husband Billy Sage and went to New York. Haven't heard much since, except that she was trying her hand at stand-up comedy. That's a tough row to hoe. I know; I've tried it."}, {"response": 262, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (09:55)", "body": "I don't recall meeting you, John. But now I know how you look AND speak! Do you live in Hawaii too?"}, {"response": 263, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (10:28)", "body": "Until he awakens and starts his day, allow me to introduce you. He is a fellow Hilo-ite and I have known him for more years than either of us is willing to admit. You heard him! That is fantastic...!"}, {"response": 264, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (12:18)", "body": "Riette, I've lived in Hilo for the last 12 years, Hawaii for 24 of the last 26 (left a year-and-a-half for Los Angeles and came back). I know how you look also (you're a Babe) and you mentioned a Boer accent, so I can only surmise that you're from South Africa. Thank you Marcia, for speaking for me, now I'm on my way to meet my freshmen for the first time this school year."}, {"response": 265, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "Not South Africa, but Namibia, the country just north of it.. And I'm 'alf Boer, half english - nasty combination! What made you go to Los Angeles?? And I presume you and Marcia know each other quite well?"}, {"response": 266, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (13:22)", "body": "That would be the case, yes. (Ree, I am 1/2 English and they are still discussing what the other half might be, but most likely German and Scots Irish which means I am at war with myself!) I have inflicted my friendship upon John for more years than either of us will admit to...*smile* John, Good luck with the new kiddies. I know they will only benefit from your expertise and sharp intellect. Giv'um!!!"}, {"response": 267, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (13:55)", "body": "*lol* marcia! that's what i say about my kids (french and german)!!"}, {"response": 268, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (14:24)", "body": "Does this mean la belle Wolfie is French, despite her Teutonic first name?"}, {"response": 269, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:11)", "body": "nope. monsieur is french and polish, i'm 1/2 german and the other?? (irish, indian, spanish...)"}, {"response": 270, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:17)", "body": "I went to L.A. in 1978 to pursue a couple of writing jobs (radio and TV) and some stand-up comedy. I made what was--for me--a lot of money in the short time I was there, but also got screwed up in the head and did some things I'm not proud of. I came back with my tail between my legs in 1980 and have never lamented my lot in life--$$ or no $$--since! I met Marcia shortly after moving to Hilo (from Honolulu) in the late 80s."}, {"response": 271, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:18)", "body": "...zen 'e does not pronounce \"Wolf\" like that...'e says \"Vulf\"? I did not know there were french wolves, but then, there are lots of things I do not know. However, I am a willing and eager learner. And, sometimes I fall right into the vat while I am learning. Tie a rope around me first! BTW, that bloodline makes your children all-Americans, for sure!"}, {"response": 272, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:23)", "body": "Only that long, John? You do not remember my son, then? (you slipped your post under mine, but I think they can follow the conversation ok...)"}, {"response": 273, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:43)", "body": "Yes...I may have seen you before then because I called Hawaii Loa games for two years before moving to Hilo in September 1987 (I've closed down more bars than I care to think of and one university to boot). I have never met David, but I did see the picture of the handsome young chap and read the women's drool comments concerning him. I also never met your ex, even though I got my degree from UH-Hilo. I did hear from a couple of sources (maybe you, for one) that he said some rather kind things about my peech when I graduated in 1994."}, {"response": 274, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:45)", "body": "That was speech, not \"peech.\" Don't want anyone getting the wrong idea about either me or your ex!"}, {"response": 275, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:53)", "body": "He said it was the best speech he had ever heard at Commencement. And yours was the Valedictory speech, too, I might add. No wonder when I emailed David (Iki) about my happiness of having you post at Spring, he said he had heard of you but did not know you. Sheesh...Moms get all confused sometimes...*grin* I thought sure you knew Frank. But, he did not teach in the field you pursued, so that is logical. You did know which of the many professors hanging around there he was? Ah....right about the Hawaii Loa games."}, {"response": 276, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:55)", "body": "*LOL* John...that is Yapp Software shorthand. Nothing you can do about it, but it does make for interesting wording at times."}, {"response": 277, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (21:50)", "body": "I do know Frank by sight although we've never spoken. I have a \"peech\" impediment!"}, {"response": 278, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (22:26)", "body": "Well, he certainly knows who you are. \"peech imspediment\", Indeed!!! (It is more than a little weird and a lot of fun that there is someone on Spring who not only knows me, but knows my family.)"}, {"response": 279, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (08:20)", "body": "I was going to say, who the hell is Marcia's ex to be lamenting YOUR peech, John? And something about the NERVE some people have! But now I won't..."}, {"response": 280, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (12:14)", "body": "*LOL!* My peech isn't worth lamenting."}, {"response": 281, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (19:57)", "body": "wait! who's frank and how come i've read all the posts but have no idea what's going on?? (work has me so busy it's hard to grasp stuff i'm told *grin* doncha just hate that?)"}, {"response": 282, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (20:23)", "body": "Wolfie, Dear...we were committing the most serious infraction to be done on posts - talking about things just we knew about. Frank is my ex. David is my son...the other people are local big frogs in a small pond. We should abandon the subject before you know far more about me than you ever wanted to know...and Honolulu, and John...and all the rest. Mea culpa...so sorry!"}, {"response": 283, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (20:33)", "body": "puhleeeeze! i want to know all about the islands and the people who live on it! (david's your son, yup, that i knew *grin*)"}, {"response": 284, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (20:50)", "body": "When I read your previous post, I about fell apart laughing. It was so undestated...hang around John and me and you will know more than just about anyone else besides us about the islands and their denizens."}, {"response": 285, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (20:52)", "body": "*rubbing paws together with glee*"}, {"response": 286, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (16:29)", "body": "too bad school had to start. It is taking John away from posting. I shall encourage him this afternoon (HST) when he gets online. (salivating at the thought!)"}, {"response": 287, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (21:57)", "body": "Marcia, is Hilo pronounced \"High Low\" or \"Hee Low\"?"}, {"response": 288, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (22:05)", "body": "HEE low"}, {"response": 289, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (23:48)", "body": "Thanks! The girls & I toured the US Geo Survey in Reston, VA while on vacation and saw a video on Mauna Loa. Afterwards I told them I knew someone who lived in Hawaii and liked studying geology but was unsure how to say the name of your city."}, {"response": 290, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:54)", "body": "Interesting! And if you's like to see what it looks like tomorrow (dark now) this has live cameras http://mloserv.mlo.hawaii.gov/current.htm"}, {"response": 291, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (19:22)", "body": "well, glad i've never said \"hilo\" outloud!! *grin* i'm glad someone finally asked!!"}, {"response": 292, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (19:29)", "body": "I think it is only Americans who would have problems with Hawaiian words. They use European vowel sounds. (...and how could someone find fault with you if you did not know...!)"}, {"response": 293, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:37)", "body": "okay lemme try this... (now I gotta run to a browser and check it out!)"}, {"response": 294, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:39)", "body": "damn!"}, {"response": 295, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:41)", "body": ""}, {"response": 296, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:42)", "body": "ummm... do I have a bad address or what?? Help Marcia!"}, {"response": 297, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:42)", "body": "Did you stub a toe while running to the browser?"}, {"response": 298, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:44)", "body": "*laugh* no... just my pride... trying to post a picture... can you help?"}, {"response": 299, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:45)", "body": "stacey - can help you - now!!! email!"}, {"response": 300, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:46)", "body": "I'm just the typical useless male...don't know where the site is...the omniscient Marcia must be around"}, {"response": 301, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:47)", "body": "I knew she'd help!"}, {"response": 302, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:49)", "body": "Marcia.. I DID that... to such disastorous ends..."}, {"response": 303, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:49)", "body": "I can post it for you - I know what you want there, but follow my instructions and you will do just fine."}, {"response": 304, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:51)", "body": "okay... here's me trying again... like Marcia said..."}, {"response": 305, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:52)", "body": "be sure the spacing is exactly as I sent it to you and no dotted line - just your pix source url ( you have it right)...try again."}, {"response": 306, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:53)", "body": "YEAH!!!!"}, {"response": 307, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:53)", "body": ""}, {"response": 308, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:54)", "body": "That's me and B at the taste of Colorado last year... I'm making a scrapbook and thought I'd post some of the silly pics! SMILE"}, {"response": 309, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:54)", "body": "Your url is wrong...put your pointer on the picture and ...hang on...let me check something..."}, {"response": 310, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:55)", "body": "nope it wasn't... it worked!!!"}, {"response": 311, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:57)", "body": "there is no picture there when you remove the command you just get a pink and blue goof box. Check again. Put pointer on the picture - use right mouse button and scroll down to \"copy image location\" click there. then put it in your command string."}, {"response": 312, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:00)", "body": "well damn it all... I saw it once... here goes again... damn you internet gremlins... LEAVE MY PICTURE BE!"}, {"response": 313, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:01)", "body": "okay... here's the image location http://homepages.msn.com/ResortRd/staceyleigh48/festivalcropped.jpg so now I'm gonna stick it inside the img src command..."}, {"response": 314, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:04)", "body": "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I wanna see the pictures!!!!"}, {"response": 315, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:05)", "body": "Honey, it won't work. Click on your links...they go to a blank page with that goof square in it."}, {"response": 316, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:06)", "body": "If Marcia can't conjure up the image, then neither can David Copperfield!"}, {"response": 317, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:09)", "body": ""}, {"response": 318, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:10)", "body": "That is brandon and stacey at lake dillon..."}, {"response": 319, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "Love your web page Dear! Those ferns sure look like here on the volcano, do they not, John?!"}, {"response": 320, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:12)", "body": "nope... it's not... evidently talkcity prevents you from using their cache of pictures unless you are linking them to a talkcity page... dammit. thanks for trying!"}, {"response": 321, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "I'm meant 'nope it's not' to the fact the pic didn't post... the ferns... well heck, I dunno anything 'bout ferns!"}, {"response": 322, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:16)", "body": "which is found at http://homepages.msn.com/ResortRd/staceyleigh48/"}, {"response": 323, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:18)", "body": "Can't see the ferns here and haven't gone to Stacey's web page yet, but I'll see if Talkcity graciously allows me access...unlike KWXX!"}, {"response": 324, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "The ferns look very much like our Volcano species...and the Colorado scenery, the lake and the mountains are beautiful...but the people part of the pictures is much too small...but they look like a lovely, happy couple."}, {"response": 325, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "which is found at http://homepages.msn.com/ResortRd/staceyleigh48/"}, {"response": 326, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:23)", "body": "Looks like we posted over each other...found it...thanks"}, {"response": 327, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:24)", "body": "I did not post that 325. How did that happen???"}, {"response": 328, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:24)", "body": "funny... I clicked on the http://homepages.msn.com/ResortRd/staceyleigh48/festivalcropped.jpg that I'd listed above and it showed me the pic in it's own browser window and when I clicked \"back\" all the pics were filled in... hmmm..."}, {"response": 329, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:25)", "body": "POLTERGIST"}, {"response": 330, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (16:37)", "body": "I guess you will have top put the thumbnail of the closeup of you two (he's a hunk!) in the command string and hope it shows up as the larger one. Worth a try!"}, {"response": 331, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (08:40)", "body": "Nice ferns on Mr. B, too! (Moments like this, I miss Jimmy!)"}, {"response": 332, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (10:06)", "body": "(lotsa moments I miss him...) *grin* about the ferns!"}, {"response": 333, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (14:18)", "body": "Chris and Ri\ufffdtte Walton's prize production for your enjoyment: was gonna post their names under their images, but she did not get back to me yet and I am eager to post this for you-all."}, {"response": 334, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (14:34)", "body": "Where's the handbag?"}, {"response": 335, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (14:35)", "body": "Ah-oh, if Jerry F. sees this..."}, {"response": 336, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (14:40)", "body": "Marcia, you are so danged clever...how did you make the umlaut over the e in Riette?...Is it a special keyboard, or just more of your programming wizardry?"}, {"response": 337, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (15:02)", "body": "Alexander... a young mother down the street mentioned that they've lost the handbag and now Tinky Winky has a deep \"manly\" voice... I think Jerry F won... I think Isa is the little one Marcia..."}, {"response": 338, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (16:34)", "body": "I think the little one is Isa, too. I just could not recall the name of the older one...sorry!!!"}, {"response": 339, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (17:15)", "body": "Speaking of the Waltons...(not those Waltons...) I posted two new paintings of Ri\ufffdtte's in Comic Art...please enjoy them - they are lovely...as everything is that she does."}, {"response": 340, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (17:37)", "body": "Re: Ree, talented, oui!"}, {"response": 341, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (18:01)", "body": "Si Si!"}, {"response": 342, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (00:59)", "body": "I just heard from the Mama of those darling little ones I posted this morning. \"The one in Red is Isa, the one in Purple is Elza!\" Thank you!"}, {"response": 343, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (01:42)", "body": "They are cute as bunnies."}, {"response": 344, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (02:29)", "body": "\ufffdbasking in the glory, frowning at ALexander\ufffd My tubbies don't DO that handbag thang!! Handbags are for sissies!"}, {"response": 345, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (02:30)", "body": "I find ISa's (THE OLDER ONE) pose so cool! She's such a clever thing. When she was born I had to tell Mum everything on the phone. So I said she looks like her dad. Mum said, 'Well, let's just hope she'll have HIS brains as well ....' Sure enough!"}, {"response": 346, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (02:43)", "body": "OK...and hope they have Mum's artistic talent!"}, {"response": 347, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (08:56)", "body": "stacey: a young mother down the street mentioned that they've lost the handbag and now Tinky Winky has a deep \"manly\" voice... I think Jerry F won... Oh my God, they lobotomized Tinky-Winky - What a cruel crime. (Just saw Jerry F. running down the street wearing black nylons and carrying a red handbag)"}, {"response": 348, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (20:04)", "body": "REE!!! your babies are beautiful!!!! thanks for sending the pick. isabel, have you been here before? are you a drooler finally braving the other areas of the spring?"}, {"response": 349, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 3, 1999 (02:27)", "body": "\ufffdtoothy grin\ufffd Yep, yep, just keep mentioning it! Welcome, Isabel!!!"}, {"response": 350, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Fri, Sep 3, 1999 (12:54)", "body": "Thank You! Where's drool - somewhere south of Uzbekistan? Uh, my geography knowledge were never the best..."}, {"response": 351, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 3, 1999 (13:39)", "body": "Go to Main Menu, then to the full list of conferences - you'll find it there, dripping with saliva."}, {"response": 352, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 3, 1999 (18:01)", "body": "and good luck catching up!"}, {"response": 353, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 4, 1999 (00:53)", "body": "ha-ha! Yeah!! There'll be alot of THAT to do!"}, {"response": 354, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Sat, Sep 4, 1999 (19:49)", "body": "I've got enough to do catching up with the four or five topics I'm in now...allways forget what I wrote."}, {"response": 355, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Sat, Sep 4, 1999 (19:56)", "body": "...mmh, looks boring and somehow cryptic..."}, {"response": 356, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 5, 1999 (00:49)", "body": "Stacey, why are you not posting your picture? (sent it to email at work...sorry!)"}, {"response": 357, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 5, 1999 (01:47)", "body": "And what about you, Isabel?? Do we get to see what our newcomer looks like?"}, {"response": 358, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 5, 1999 (19:07)", "body": "email it to me and i'll be glad to post it! (along with all your mish mosh goodies!!)"}, {"response": 359, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (08:54)", "body": "If I ever get a photo of me where I don't look like a complete moron, you'll be the first to see it! I hate being photographed and I think there are no pictures existing from me - smashed all the cameras! By the way, where's Yours, Wolfie?"}, {"response": 360, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (09:00)", "body": "She's been asked that before...posted a picture of canis lupus"}, {"response": 361, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (09:10)", "body": "Hey, than I could send a picture of my cat instead! *LOL*"}, {"response": 362, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (09:23)", "body": "You're quite the kidder....just like Wolf. If Marcia didn't know me, I would have sent a picture of Ricardo Montalban (from the 1950s). That would have started some drool..."}, {"response": 363, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (10:47)", "body": "...and Marcia was silly enough to post her own...like shooting oneself in the foot, huh! I wish I had though to post someone lie Raquel in the '50's!"}, {"response": 364, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (10:58)", "body": "isabel, i hate my pictures too. am waiting for a good hair day, you know?"}, {"response": 365, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (23:20)", "body": "Good hair day??? I'm having a bad hair life! Why is it that my hair is the only part of my anatomy that IS thin???!!!"}, {"response": 366, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "John, it is in your genes (being very careful about how I am spelling that word.) And, that is MY line about bad hair life, but I'll happilly share it with you...I did not know your hair was thinning, but after Frank, anything looks hairy!"}, {"response": 367, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Sep 7, 1999 (00:13)", "body": "I developed that line \"bad hair life.\" independently and have been using it for years...as maybe you have as well. It's a natural... Remember having used it first on KPOI in 1986."}, {"response": 368, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 7, 1999 (00:37)", "body": "I can't believe you are that old. Had you your full set of adult teeth when you worked at KPOI?! (re that line: I have heard it just about \"forever\")"}, {"response": 369, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 7, 1999 (20:58)", "body": "well, you know how canine species can be, no one brushes us and we get mats, not to mention loads of itchy spots! i think the correct term for my particular problem is \"bad face life\"!!"}, {"response": 370, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 7, 1999 (21:05)", "body": "...had that, too. Not solely a wolf's problem, I think! Humans usually grow out of it, however... Mine, on the other hand, was inherited from a father and grandfather with weird senses of humor!"}, {"response": 371, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (03:07)", "body": "I worked for a very short time as a TV news anchor. I was fired after a station consultant told the news director I had \"a face made for radio.\""}, {"response": 372, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (04:10)", "body": "ha-ha!!! You're just fooling around again!"}, {"response": 373, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (15:01)", "body": "Hehe, that WAS a cool line. Those jerks are basically paid for coming up with these cool lines, and then to show them off, they gotta do something. The successful ones of these clowns stay in business consulting, the others dabble at being stand-up comedians..."}, {"response": 374, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (02:51)", "body": "You mean put-down comedians.... Same thing with art dealers."}, {"response": 375, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (13:20)", "body": "If they don't sell, they go to the circus? (I read about that guy - incredible! And sorry about it, too.)"}, {"response": 376, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (01:18)", "body": "Yeah, well, that's why I want a degree - a BIG degree. So I can go back to painting for a hobby instead of being in the clowns-banging-each-other-over-the-head-with-bad-paintings circus act. Got myself a nice commission this weekend though - I get to paint my fat lady on a crocodile for a Scottish Anthropologist!! ha-ha! And I'll laugh even more when he pays me, 'cos it's going to be big, and he offered me 5 and a half for it. HEE-HAW!"}, {"response": 377, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (01:58)", "body": "Sounds like you don't need a degree. Just take the \"Monet\" and run!"}, {"response": 378, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (02:01)", "body": "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, consult!"}, {"response": 379, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (03:38)", "body": "ha-ha! It's true though! One of my lecturers at summer school this year told me that those lecturers who can't teach are promoted. And the really competent guys, that is, the ones who are prepared to WORK for their money, are kept where they are. I think that's sick."}, {"response": 380, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (09:51)", "body": "I got a call from an old friend of mine, John Long, and he's starting up something called onlineartgallery.com. Good name. He's heavily involved with the NY art scene and movie biz. He said, among other things, that he's det in touch with Suzy Amis, who he knows, about our http://www.suzyamis.com site. John and I took t'ai chi classes when I lived in San Fransciso from Master Choy, who arguably has the best t'ai chi form in the world."}, {"response": 381, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "cool!"}, {"response": 382, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "That is cool. I love to go to Kalakaua Park in downtown Hilo in the late afternoons and watch the old men do t'ai chi. I've been considering getting the David Carradine video, since I would like to do t'ai chi, but don't want to make any more of a public ass of myself than I do here in Spring. BTW, We have a Master Choy in Hawaii, too. His name is Sam Choy. He is Hawaii's best known chef, and my hero."}, {"response": 383, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (16:43)", "body": "John, do NOT try to emulate Sam Choy...no matter how heroic your worship. I think there are two John Burnetts inside of Sam Choy. I worry about him!"}, {"response": 384, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (12:59)", "body": "T'ai chi? With which tie? Stupid joke, Ri\ufffdtte, sit."}, {"response": 385, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:40)", "body": "Can I tai your chi?"}, {"response": 386, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "ugh"}, {"response": 387, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:05)", "body": "ha-ha!!! Sure, Terry-guy! That is, if you can find such a thing on this physiognomy..."}, {"response": 388, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:57)", "body": "It is that that underlais your physiognomy. Terry probably can do what he said, if he's a regular practitioner: increase your chi."}, {"response": 389, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (02:08)", "body": "As long as he can do it without tai-ing me down."}, {"response": 390, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (16:02)", "body": "Thank you, Marcia (and don't tell the FBI). Escaped from the Manson family and on the loose, here is John Burnett, circa 1981."}, {"response": 391, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "Looks like they lined you up against the proverbial wall and shot you! But look at those eyes...You were not concerned too much...I gather this was not for the USN ID purposes?!"}, {"response": 392, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (16:36)", "body": "He looks like a lot of guys in Austin! He would fit in great around these parts."}, {"response": 393, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (16:56)", "body": "I thought it was far too hot to be so incumbered...but thinking of another person who is not quite that shaggy...I guess that is not a problem! Ok Terry, when are you going back to long hair?! (Or have you and we have not see the pictures yet?)"}, {"response": 394, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (17:13)", "body": "I may not be going back to long hair, short hair is just too easy to get along with! Low maintenance!"}, {"response": 395, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (17:30)", "body": "John, is that picture from a line-up? LOL!"}, {"response": 396, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (17:40)", "body": "It almost looks like one of those desperados which the posse shot then propped up against a wall and took his picture for posterity. John? Are you not commenting our our compliments? Terry, I agree about the maintenance of long hair - way too time-consuming!"}, {"response": 397, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (19:28)", "body": "My beard is now gray and I don't have enough hair on top to make long hair worth it. Besides, I now look friendly enough that people stop me on the street to ask directions. When I looked like that, people would see me coming and jaywalk to the other side of the street to avoid me. Must be that Manson Family thing..."}, {"response": 398, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (19:42)", "body": "(He's cute and you just want to hug him, actually!)"}, {"response": 399, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Oct 4, 1999 (09:07)", "body": "I think he's got incredible eyes."}, {"response": 400, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 4, 1999 (16:45)", "body": "UmmmHmmm! I've looked into those baby blues in person. I will vouch for their worthiness any time! Sorta bed-roomy at times...*smile*"}, {"response": 401, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Oct 5, 1999 (10:16)", "body": "I like the look in them too - sort of pissed off and arrogant."}, {"response": 402, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 5, 1999 (18:48)", "body": "I have never been the target of \"stink-eye\" (Hawaiian pidgin for dirty look) from John, but I can well imagine that it could be devastatingly effective."}, {"response": 403, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "I have deleted the huge and grainy portrait of John Burnett and between us have come up with a much better one:"}, {"response": 404, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:29)", "body": "that's a good one! john, don't take this the wrong way, but you make me think of john candy (i loved him, so that's a compliment!)"}, {"response": 405, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:31)", "body": "That's one I can only take negatively. He died at 43 from a massive coronary."}, {"response": 406, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:32)", "body": "It is however, a comparison I've heard more than once..."}, {"response": 407, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:36)", "body": "Sorry, but from my totally impartial viewpoint, John is much the handsomer!"}, {"response": 408, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:47)", "body": "There are one, perhaps two adjectives which could be deleted there and one adverb certainly."}, {"response": 409, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:49)", "body": "(stamping my little foot in exasperation) No! There cannot!"}, {"response": 410, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:50)", "body": "...ok...you can remove \"totally\"..."}, {"response": 411, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:50)", "body": "But John Candy did outlive my late daddy, E. (who fell off the crapper and died due to a massive coronary) by a year. John Candy DID have beautiful teeth that I wish I had."}, {"response": 412, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:52)", "body": "ok, so jc had a coronary, that doesn't mean you will. john had a wonderful sense of humor and was just a lovable kind of guy. i didn't find him ugly either or did i care that he was a large fella. (i'm sorry but that line about daddy e made me laugh). well, take it as you like, it really and truly is a compliment so say thank you *grin*"}, {"response": 413, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:54)", "body": "(see you guys later, gotta get some shut-eye)"}, {"response": 414, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (21:56)", "body": "G'night Wolfie!"}, {"response": 415, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Oct 15, 1999 (16:29)", "body": "Great picture of John! He looks just like I imagined, only younger (hope it's OK to say that!)"}, {"response": 416, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 15, 1999 (16:48)", "body": "(I think that will be a guaranteed-to-please comment!)"}, {"response": 417, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Oct 16, 1999 (22:53)", "body": "And not quite as grainy..."}, {"response": 418, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Oct 16, 1999 (22:55)", "body": "Thank you *grin* Wolfie and Autumn. Yes, Marcia, I'm back and I still love you."}, {"response": 419, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (14:08)", "body": "John is definitely not grainy....smoothe is more like it. *sigh* The second part of your comment above is the nicest thing I have seen here for a very long time...we missed you, and I return the sentiment."}, {"response": 420, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (11:49)", "body": "Great shirt, John!"}, {"response": 421, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "You any relation to the guy with that red sports car? The spitting image, I say!"}, {"response": 422, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:29)", "body": "Everyone seems to think so."}, {"response": 423, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:36)", "body": ";=}"}, {"response": 424, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:36)", "body": "Or, that a problem?"}, {"response": 425, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:40)", "body": "No problem here. Wish I had a red sports car, maybe a classic Porsche!"}, {"response": 426, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (14:36)", "body": "I can imagine you in a red classic Porche just fine - or the Targa...But, you are much better looking than the other guy!"}, {"response": 427, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (16:53)", "body": "I never liked the moustache anyway!"}, {"response": 428, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (18:17)", "body": "Did not do much for me, either. However, on the right guy...that is another story!"}, {"response": 429, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (06:19)", "body": "\ufffdterrified gasp\ufffd How can you SAY these things? Magnum is IT. He was the first man I ever fell in love with!"}, {"response": 430, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (11:00)", "body": "Hmh. Ehrhem. Arh, excellent choice, Riette. (Gosh, how do I get off that hook?)"}, {"response": 431, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (11:18)", "body": "I wasn't even thinking of Selleck, and I doubt Marcia was either. I remembered a movie where John Candy was driving a red sports car. I don't look anything like Magnum (I WISH!). I used to play softball on the same team with him in Honolulu--Tom is an absolutely great guy. I could also be happy playing (or being) Courtney Cox's boyfriend. But thanks. That picture (about five years old) does me too much justice. I hope the station paid the photog (who is now retired) well. (and yes, a red Ferrari T starossa would do fine)."}, {"response": 432, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "No, I was not thinking of Magnum (Selleck)...Selleck is Selleck and Burnett is Burnett. Both are unique and cherished individuals and both of whom I have met. I'll take Burnett because he is not quite as shy as Selleck and I can get more than just a few words out of him *grin*"}, {"response": 433, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (18:18)", "body": "If I were a woman, I'd go for Selleck. He's handsome and rich...and Robin Masters lets him use both his estate and his Ferrari."}, {"response": 434, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (19:15)", "body": "John, I am older and wiser. I go for content. You can go for Selleck if you'd like, though you'd make a miserable woman...=P"}, {"response": 435, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 21, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "OH, how embarrassing. Perhaps I'm still not over Selleck....man!!"}, {"response": 436, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 22, 1999 (16:53)", "body": "Ree...if you are talking about Magnum, what woman is ever *over* him?! *sigh*"}, {"response": 437, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (10:20)", "body": ":-/ ?"}, {"response": 438, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "I think the German contingent just checked in and added her dismay to the discussion. I gather you never liked him, Isabel? How could that be?!"}, {"response": 439, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (15:16)", "body": "I don't want to upset anyone.... But he's soooo A-W-G-L-Y! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH! I must admit that drooling is not my strongest point....."}, {"response": 440, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (15:36)", "body": "within the next couple o' days I hope to have the first wedding pics in here... might take awhile for the rest! (and Alexander... I just received your reply back today! We DID have a layover in Frankfurt but we spent most of it napping in the lounge... I would certainly have preferred to share a beer with you IRL!)"}, {"response": 441, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "Welcome home, Mrs T *smile* *hugs* We missed you! (we are waiting patiently...)"}, {"response": 442, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (16:01)", "body": "(S., I would have preferred that, too... Or sung you two guys serenades, or a lullaby!)"}, {"response": 443, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (16:03)", "body": "(or rather not, security is hot there, and they might charge me for assault with a dangerous arm...)"}, {"response": 444, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (16:05)", "body": "(erh, weapon, make that dangerous weapon!)"}, {"response": 445, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (16:08)", "body": "*laugh* it's certianly the thought that counts Alexander..."}, {"response": 446, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (03:51)", "body": "Jeez, now you have an even stranger surname! Rrrrussian special underrrrcuvverr agent, Stacey Tinianov. COOL!"}, {"response": 447, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 27, 1999 (12:05)", "body": "and it IS Russian! ah... I'd LOVE to be a special undercover agent if it took me to Greece a few times a year!"}, {"response": 448, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (05:35)", "body": "THAT'S how nice it was? I've never been to Greece. \ufffdblush\ufffd Everyone else has been to Greece."}, {"response": 449, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (11:53)", "body": "Has the KGB kidnapped our Stacey and replaced her with a Russian fem-bot clone?"}, {"response": 450, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (12:48)", "body": "With switch-blades clacking out of her boots when she stomps her feet! Like, uh, was that Lotte Lenya in James Bond?"}, {"response": 451, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (12:53)", "body": "Ah, the fortunous Mr. Secret Agent! Imagine - his own Bond Girl!"}, {"response": 452, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "OK now I know about the Bond girl I was scratching my head about in babes, it's our own hard bodied, woo, woo, babe."}, {"response": 453, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (14:19)", "body": "...I presumed from the post here that she is whom Alexander had in mind..."}, {"response": 454, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (01:25)", "body": "I thought Lotte Lenya was from Kurt Weill's Threepenny Opera , but she'll do. Actually I was thiking of Vanessa Kensington in Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me . Elizabeth Hurley. Now THERE'S an Englishwoman who DOES float my boat! What the hell was Hugh Grant thinking, anyway???????"}, {"response": 455, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (01:41)", "body": "'Gee, I'm horny'?"}, {"response": 456, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (11:33)", "body": "You are giving Hugh Grant credit for thinking? You have not been to Drool lately. The guy's a jerk and like Ree said...that is what he was \"thinkging\"... if that's the word."}, {"response": 457, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (13:09)", "body": "I don't know if he's a jerk, but I generally don't get particularly turned on by guys with gently rotting front teeth..."}, {"response": 458, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (16:29)", "body": "You know my feeling about Drool. I'll never go back there."}, {"response": 459, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (17:06)", "body": "I go in only when I feel strong...they have gone on without me just fine...but there are good friends in there for me just in case I need to recover my roots at Spring and pull in my horns or whatever. (HG also has appalling lack of respect for EH. How could he?! He is stupid and I HATE stupid people!!!)"}, {"response": 460, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (19:41)", "body": "..or is the more a case of the casual stuff we were discussing in Email yesterday and perfectly acceptable - except by me? I'm in big trouble if I have to make up for lost time in this area..."}, {"response": 461, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (19:56)", "body": "I don't know. I think he's just not as smart at that cultured British accent makes him sound."}, {"response": 462, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (20:05)", "body": "You got that right, as they say some places..."}, {"response": 463, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (00:40)", "body": "HALF: TCU 14 HAWAII 8"}, {"response": 464, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Nov 1, 1999 (11:38)", "body": "John, Lotte Lenya (sometimes written Lenja) indeed was in Bert Brecht's Dreigroschen-Oper, as it's originally called. The Musik was by Kurt Weill, who emigrated in the 30ies to save his life, and worked from then on in the US. There's a recording of the original early 30ies cast available (incl. some scores from French movie versions), and for people liking Weill's work, two tribute CDs with curious new interpretations. If somebody is interested, I could look that up... If I get that right, Weill and Lenya were married. There's one Bond-movie with her in it - perhaps \"From Russia with Love\"? There's a scene where she plays an elderly maiden in a hotel, with these SPRIMGblade-shoes, and attacks somebody. Of course she's East German secret service... Hard-bodied, uh? What'd you think that comes from, Terry! A secret agent's trainings cycle is at least as hard as a publisher's - there's all these dry Martinis, the champagne and hors d'oeuvre, rope-swinging, funds-swiping and bullet-dodging. Plus the martial arts-stuff: vodka-downing, exotic cheese-guessing, seafood-digesting. And then there's all that suff you hafta to do to all these people: arm-twisting, feet-stepping and nose-thumping. It's one hell of a job, but somebody's gotta do it. Ok, so the comparison doesn't hit on the nail squarely enough. Sue me, everybody! That was at least rapid (rabid?) response posting..."}, {"response": 465, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (21:03)", "body": "um....i've just read the above and i liked magnum but i liked selleck even better in her alibi.... and that description about HG's \"gently rotting teeth\" made me roll!! and now i'm really terrified of posting my pic here! was looking at the pics i took while in port aransus and man, it's not a pretty site.... and now i know how we got the bond girl topic in babes!!"}, {"response": 466, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (21:08)", "body": "Amazing what insight old posts will give to new topics, but the Bond Babes has turned into Drool topic for Ree...as does anywhere she goes (Not jealous, just stating the truth!)...must be nice to be talented and desirable, too. Let's see, somewhere I must have a virtue, but there is not a category for it yet...!"}, {"response": 467, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (21:18)", "body": "(...don't suppose Wolfie would even consider emailing me a confidential promise-not-to-post picture so I could imagine better with whom I am playing stone school...?!)"}, {"response": 468, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (10:12)", "body": "What 'drool topic for Ree'???? Don't be silly, woman! I'm only as desirable as the nerd I am, and that's how that business goes from beginning to end. No flocking men at social occasions like with you .... I wonder who SHOULD be jealous around here! Wolfie, you MUST post us your picture! I was just being horribly rude about Hugh Grant, whom I actually don't dislike in pictures. Frankly I'd rather have gentlly rotting teeth than an ar$e like two condemned pieces of veal. So, PLEEEEZE!"}, {"response": 469, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (11:22)", "body": "What if somebody had both - an arse like rotting veal, and gently condemned teeth? Would that disqualify from becoming a Bond girl?"}, {"response": 470, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (12:02)", "body": "Ree, Sweetie, when our Fearless Leader talks baby talk to you and chases you from topic to topic, something is appealing to something else...and another gentleman has pursued you in the name of friendship and you tease him and carry on like you were in a cat fight, but I know better. Enjoy, my dear!!! *hugs* (What flocking at social occasions? Have I been missing something?!) Alexander - does that image do something for you? Sounds revolting, but, hey! Whatever turns you on...!"}, {"response": 471, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (12:13)", "body": "Naw, yak! Don' worry, just asking. I mean, I didn't come up with this line of nail-biting stuff, no? (Mighta been I got something mixed up, too.)"}, {"response": 472, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (12:24)", "body": "Vous?! Nevah (Jane Austen's way of spelling the word for emphasis), you clever and witty Herr Alexander auf Hessen...I have never known you to be mixed up unless it was intentional *grin* You cannot know how relieved I am that you are not into people in the act of destabilization."}, {"response": 473, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (18:25)", "body": "ree, sweetie, you keep on cracking me up! gently rotting teeth and an arse of veal! *LOL* speaking of teeth, *griiiinnnn*, you guys ever take a look at david bowie's? yuck!!"}, {"response": 474, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (19:49)", "body": "No thank you! My David has a sparkling set of teeth with no cavities and all perfectly aligned. How could I have passed my Dad's genetic teeth to my son without taking one for myself?! Humbug! (am I talking about that kid again?! He just sent new pix last night and they are so gorgeous...I miss him..it has been since a year ago last September that I have seen him...*sniff*)"}, {"response": 475, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (19:52)", "body": "(Just discovered my error...I should have saved a set for me rather than just one...but I did not, and my dentist is a happy man!)"}, {"response": 476, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (09:26)", "body": "EEEK, Wolfie, David Bowie!!! Can't they just have pulled his wisdom teeth at some point??? None of this need ever have happened! Marcia, will you be visiting your son soon, or will he be visiting you? And our Fearless Leader doesn't persue me!! He is just interested in my health secrets.....ha-ha!! (Terry, tell her!!!) And I can assure you nobody else has been persuing me in the name of friendship or anything else - unless Tim is back?!?!?! IS he???? Have I missed something here??"}, {"response": 477, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (17:40)", "body": "Yep, Ree's right, I'm going to charm those health secrets out of her yet!"}, {"response": 478, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (18:01)", "body": "Yessum, if that's what you say, that is the truth...(uh huh....) No, our Terry is not Tim-the-Trucker. YUCK!!! Watch it though, Ree, make him EARN those secrets so hard won by you *smile* (getting out my sandwiches and blanket to watch and take notes)"}, {"response": 479, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (06:48)", "body": "Here, have a frozen-Coke-and-Smartie sandwich while you're waiting."}, {"response": 480, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (10:57)", "body": "I really have an unfair advantage over y'all cause ree sent me this video of her in her studio, with clips from other places she's been, and she's so charming and delightful that I wish she'd let me play it on our webcam page. Or at least have a private showing with a secret url that just folks she knows could watch. But back to those health secrets, I think it's time you spilled one, Ree."}, {"response": 481, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (12:26)", "body": "which gives me an idea....perhaps i'll post a pic of myself on a secret page and only let the very few have that url.....hmmmm......."}, {"response": 482, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (12:53)", "body": "Like a certain conference...? We Need to see our most talented and charming Boer-Swiss Ms. Wolfie, please do it! I really bond better if I have a visual of the person with whom I am bonding *hugs* and *smiles*"}, {"response": 483, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (12:59)", "body": "Uh...Ree? Is that diet you proposed above part of your youth / beauty secret?"}, {"response": 484, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (13:11)", "body": "Wolfie, that's a great idea! You could post it in inner, right? Marcia, the diet I proposed is part of my saddlebag secret! Terry, is there no way you could play the video with just the bits of Switzerland, Namibia and South Africa? Otherwise you can play it, I don't mind, but it's going to be appalling, I tell you. The suzie-cream-cheese bubble will burst mightily!"}, {"response": 485, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (14:43)", "body": "How can that be, Ree? Terry has seen it and you in it, and he persists in admiring you...not all for your artistic talent, I think! You are far too modest and you are beginning to bug those of us who are mortal and not as cute nor as talented....*hugs*"}, {"response": 486, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (18:26)", "body": "Then it will be done, details will be found elsewhere."}, {"response": 487, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Nov 7, 1999 (03:16)", "body": "Details??? What details? Oh boy ... Terry, you promised you'd keep the secrets!!! And if ya don't I'll send you some more mouldy cheese! Like Marcia said, it's not a threat, it's a PROMISE!"}, {"response": 488, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 7, 1999 (08:45)", "body": "Oh boy, more moldy cheese!"}, {"response": 489, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov 8, 1999 (02:59)", "body": "Don't sound so happy - this is supposed to be a serious threat!!!"}, {"response": 490, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 8, 1999 (14:55)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 491, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (01:00)", "body": "*sigh* We seemed so much younger when the preceeding comments were posted. Now three of us are missing...*sigh*"}, {"response": 492, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (22:36)", "body": "Now playing, at this very, red hot moment, my tape from the Wailers Concert in Austin two nights ago, the Colin Firth appearance tonight, and, *and* my day trip to Wimberly today. I and I mon!"}, {"response": 493, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:16)", "body": "We seem to be driving around....and that is not your voice!!! Oh gollllly!!! Is that Texas Music on your radio? Is that your narration???"}, {"response": 494, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:17)", "body": "You sound very nice!!! I am pleased to meet you!"}, {"response": 495, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:20)", "body": "Right now the Wimberly tape is playing."}, {"response": 496, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:22)", "body": "It is very nice - and reminds me of little places in Arizona...but it that you speaking??? I MUST know!"}, {"response": 497, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:23)", "body": "and...do we get to see you??? Please?!"}, {"response": 498, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:28)", "body": "You are totally gorgeous!!!"}, {"response": 499, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:28)", "body": "Coffee cup is ok but you...*Big Sigh*"}, {"response": 500, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:34)", "body": "I'm rewinding the tape, I'll run it again as I record it from the Digital Camera to the VHS. It's got the Firth show, then the Wailers, then a segment of Elota's play, then my trip to Wimberly."}, {"response": 501, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:34)", "body": "Actually, no firth in this tape, it starts out with the Wailers."}, {"response": 502, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (11:34)", "body": "Hi y'all. I'm a dis-placed Texan living in Massachusetts... Andover to be exact. I met Terry long ago and far away while living in NYC in an online community called ECHO. He graciously inviited me back to Austin (via cyberspce) where my appearances to date have been infrequent. But, with my new high speed, constantly connected cable modem I 've been able to come 'home'. I've been lurking about for about a week. It's good to already have met a couple of new people (Marcia, John and Wolf). I look forward to seeing you all around the Spring. Now, how do I put a picture in?"}, {"response": 503, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (13:06)", "body": "Gena, Ginny lives in Boston and has been keeping us updated on their morass called the \"Big Dig\" on the Travel conference. You've been having really severe weather lately, too!n Send me your picture and I will post it. It has to be already on the Internet to post it, so I will put on my space at spring's hard drive. Email it to me as a file. Most of our portraits were in there and are no longer viewable since Spring moved to a new server."}, {"response": 504, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (17:24)", "body": "We can probably get them all back when I get my old servers hooked back up again on the Quail DSL modem."}, {"response": 505, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (17:31)", "body": "Really????!!!! I'd better put them back on my space on the hard drive. Let me know when /if to so do. Thanks! I can always reinstall them!"}, {"response": 506, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:10)", "body": "Is that why I've got \"X's\" where photos ought to be? I thought it was me! Whooo-eee, am I relieved. MArcia, post my 'bike' photo I sent ;-) When I get a uh, more revealing one, I'll send it to you. Oh, and I see from past posts, you're rather the data geek (that IS acompliment), so could ya-would ya email the commans string for posting photos onto this place. I'll file it away until it's usable. Thanks."}, {"response": 507, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:11)", "body": "and maybe send a couple of hands that can type while you're at it! jeez that last post was a mess!"}, {"response": 508, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:19)", "body": "Gonna make it a little smaller, if that's ok. And yes, I'll send you the command string to post your own pictures. Just keep them under or around 50 BK (I try to keep them below 30 KB As for the mess, I notice I am not all that swift at times, either. Especially late at night after spending all day here. We know what you meant!"}, {"response": 509, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:32)", "body": "Gena, I just sent you the command string for your picture. Please post it for me by pasting it to the submission box and hitting the button."}, {"response": 510, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:41)", "body": "revealing?"}, {"response": 511, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:44)", "body": "You'll see... Marcia I just received the instructions, so here goes... this is me."}, {"response": 512, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:48)", "body": "I'm the one in front on the teal bike. This was taken at NH Speedway last summer at a trackday where you learn how to ride the course. It's fun and it's fast!"}, {"response": 513, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:56)", "body": "Awesome, Gena! Isn't it something else to see it unfurl and you on the net forever?!"}, {"response": 514, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:57)", "body": "did you win?"}, {"response": 515, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (20:59)", "body": "I almost didn't recognize you."}, {"response": 516, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:00)", "body": "It wasn't a race. We were in a class. That's my instructor behind me in the red penny. First she'd ride in front to show us the correct line to take through the corners, then we took turns going in front with her behind critiquing our skill. This photo was taken as I FINALLY got turn 3 right without losing all my speed."}, {"response": 517, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:04)", "body": "cool!"}, {"response": 518, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:20)", "body": "What kind of bike is that you're riding? red penny?"}, {"response": 519, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:24)", "body": "My bike is a '93 Kawasaki zx6-e. The red penny is that thingy over her leathers."}, {"response": 520, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:30)", "body": "Of course, duh! ."}, {"response": 521, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:38)", "body": "don't y'all call those things 'pennys'...i could swear i that's what they called them hen I went to school out that way. Girls couldn't play 'shirts vs skins' so one team would wear 'pennys' and the other team didn't."}, {"response": 522, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:49)", "body": "Pinniese.... spoil sports *laugh*"}, {"response": 523, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:49)", "body": "I'll spell it right this time - one is a Pinny more are pinnies"}, {"response": 524, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:53)", "body": "Ohhh.. well, spelling can be a problem. Plus with my accent. The Yankees go \"huh\" sometimes when I talk... then they process, then they understand."}, {"response": 525, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:55)", "body": "That's ok...Now I know what to look for. I was checking for Penny loafers before *lol* Hey, where's your pseudonym, GreasyRider or whatever??"}, {"response": 526, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (06:53)", "body": "That's was Propeller Head to you grrlie! I only changed it that one place. I had to night-night last night. I think I'm the only one zipping in from the east coast... y'all stay up too late for me! But isn't Hawaii even more hrs earlier than California? What's the time diff btn you and NY?"}, {"response": 527, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (07:27)", "body": "Oh... I forgot to mention. As I sit here in my living room today April 26th at 8:27 am EDT, it's SNOWING outside! I can't believe it... Summer's never coming to New England."}, {"response": 528, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (07:56)", "body": "Wow, snow. Yeah, you're the first one up every day. I usually get up around 6 am or 7. It's going to be another hot one here in Austin, and I'm planning to be around the pool this afternoon."}, {"response": 529, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (07:58)", "body": "I want to be you! Even if you do have a big beard ;-). WARNING! Whine alert! I wanna lay by the pool!!! I wanna get a sunburn!! I wanna NOT BE WEARING polarfleece in April!!!"}, {"response": 530, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (11:38)", "body": "I get up around 5-6am which is 11 am-12 noon for the east coast. When Y'all go to bed it is still early eveing for me. We get the tail end of the day is Hawaii...but no snow this time of year on our mountains is likely, though it is technically possible. We avoid getting burned and stay out of all polls if possible here. Way too intense unless you are really slathered with sunblock. Too close to the equator."}, {"response": 531, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (12:53)", "body": "We also stay out of POOLS as well, excepting tide pools which are cleansed by Nature and stocked the same way with the most incredible life on earth. Y'all get water-wings for that 'cycle of yours and get yourself over here. You'll get the sunburn of a lifetime!"}, {"response": 532, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (13:49)", "body": "hmmmm. water wings on the zx. A new twist on 'chitty-chitty-bang-bang' if I ever saw it! It's still snowing... it's slushy, wet, cold, nasty, splat snow. At this rate I will be riding my bicycle in my living room until June, and it's so hard to make the corners. My apartment is little!"}, {"response": 533, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (14:03)", "body": "Have to put your feet down a lot, do you? Yeesh! Where was this stuff in November and December when it would have been welcome?! Send it over here. We just let it fall on the mountains so we can admire it from the deck chair in the yard in the shade of a palm tree sippping a tall cool one. The only way to admire snow, according to my father. I rather like the cold - but hate the rheumatic cold wet stuff. Oh yes, get that zx airborne and you have it made!!! *lol*"}, {"response": 534, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (17:49)", "body": "I did make it to the poolside, where I am now. The computer's back out there like last summer. So summer fun begins. The pool's clean too, Paul Fuck (the pool guy) has obviously been by here from the unfettered look of the clear, blue water. OK, OK, Gena, I'll stop rubbing it in now."}, {"response": 535, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:16)", "body": "Yeah, yeah, yeah.... and your pool guy's name is WHAT! I truly hope that was a typo. I envision a small boy getting his mouth washed out with soap everytime he introduced himself in school."}, {"response": 536, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:30)", "body": "My thoughts exactly. Did Terry post a typo *lolrotf*"}, {"response": 537, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:33)", "body": "Paul *Fucik*; it was a typo."}, {"response": 538, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:15)", "body": "Thank goodness.... I was miserable with pity for the poor little fella"}, {"response": 539, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:28)", "body": "*LOL* aren't we happy for him!!! Not a Freudian slip there?!"}, {"response": 540, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "I was already thinking of ways to pronounce - like \"Fewk\" Just hope they don't ask you to spell it...*still laughing*"}, {"response": 541, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (01:13)", "body": "Bah...just about all the links in this topic are busted (including my own)..."}, {"response": 542, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (19:10)", "body": "I have a lot of the old pix on my new space on the hard drive... shall I repost the ones I have? (I even downloaded Yours... so I could remember your boysish charm!) porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 36, "subject": "ICQ Suggestion", "response_count": 40, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (01:48)", "body": "Huh? What is an ICQ number? Software? I've only got T.I.T. software!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (13:06)", "body": "hehehe visit http://www.icq.com"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (13:07)", "body": "I have a bunch of 'em! hot@spring.com or hot@spring.net ... I forget which is where I am in the evenings after 6 pm. hotty is my icq handle."}, {"response": 4, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (14:52)", "body": "If you tell me what icq stands for, I'll tell you what T.I.T. stands for."}, {"response": 5, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (16:12)", "body": "*laugh* I think they'd rather come up with their own definition!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (17:19)", "body": "It partly comes from ham radio, \"I seek you\". Now, your turn, Riette."}, {"response": 7, "author": "kristen", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (22:26)", "body": "I got my ICQ number today. 15601557 is it. ICQ and email me so I can find out more about how to use this. Help."}, {"response": 8, "author": "kristen", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (22:29)", "body": "I need lots of help getting started. Email me at kristen@spring.net and let me know how to build a conference list and how to get around here. Send the welcome wagon my way, please!!! I'm the redhead in Terry's video with the tatoo. Is it being discussed somewhere here? kristen@spring.net"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (22:30)", "body": "is you telnetting in or web-bing in?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "kristen", "date": "Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (23:05)", "body": "Both, mostly telnetting though."}, {"response": 11, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (01:25)", "body": "Terry, T.I.T. stands for a-hem. . . Thorougly Interesting Things."}, {"response": 12, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (10:40)", "body": "heeeee welcome again, Kristen. I think we should open a topic in Porch specifically for new types. I'll do it right after this. In fact, right now. I'll try ICQ-ing you tonight, Kristen, cos I've never used it before!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (14:28)", "body": "How does one ICQ another person? Does one have to be on the Pill to do that without getting into trouble?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (17:31)", "body": "poor riette! flustered and confused by ourfirsttime.com!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (18:24)", "body": "heheheh :)) download and install the ICQ software, riette, and then we cna go from there. gonna try it myself for the first time now. :)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (18:39)", "body": "it's available at http://www.icq.com/"}, {"response": 17, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (20:52)", "body": "is it kind of like msn conferencing? do we all have to be on the same program for us to call each other? i'll go to the site and see for myself! (hi wer)"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (21:04)", "body": "hey, toots!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (21:59)", "body": "My ICQ 5384381. hot@spring.net"}, {"response": 20, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (22:32)", "body": "mine is: 15655049 (btw, that download took a very looooooong time)"}, {"response": 21, "author": "wer", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (22:36)", "body": "gonna try and load it up on the computer at work...just don't know when I'll have the computer to myself long enough to do it...probably somewhere along my next 'bout of insomnia..."}, {"response": 22, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (01:28)", "body": "I'll have a look later. Got to hurry - the girls will be up soon, and I still want to send e-mail to Sonja. Still trying to get her to come to the spring."}, {"response": 23, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (14:06)", "body": "make her come. tell her how beautiful we all are. especially wolf."}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (20:38)", "body": "yeah, that'll work (note that tone of sarcasm)"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (22:18)", "body": "but, I'm tone deaf..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (04:00)", "body": "Nope, Sonja won't come. I even promised her to send her picture to Mike to put into Babes (she is by FAR the better looking), but she won't. Thinks her English isn't good enough. Silly bugger. I told her that bad English never stopped the Boers from attacking the English, but no, she's too decent. That makes me the evil twin, I suppose. No, actually she simply works too much to be able to sit on the computer like I do - she's a medical transcriptor/CAT scan operator, and constantly on call. She says she might log in when she goes home in October for holiday - think my brother has internet now."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (05:39)", "body": "Are you any relation to the Waltons in Arkansas? The ones that started up a little chain of stores?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (10:35)", "body": "I don't know! It is my husband's name that I've taken for practical reasons - hope that doesn't make me submissive. My unmarried name was Steyn. But I'll ask him! Wish WE owned a little chain of stores . . ."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (11:28)", "body": "Yep, the Waltons have a little mom and pop store called WalMart. Ever heard of it? They're the third richest family in the world, bhind Bill Gates and some sheik or something. Maybe the fourth."}, {"response": 30, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (15:26)", "body": "thought you were gonna ask her if she was related to John-Boy or something!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (15:30)", "body": "As the Afrikaners would say: FOK dit!!! 'Cos I asked him, but nope, his family roots all lie in a town called Billingham in northern England where everyone worked in mines, and the girls bore and average of 11 children each, and he is one of only two members of that family who turned out intelligent enough to go to university (but may I brag by saying my husband's an Oxbridge man?). His intelligent cousin, Alan Walton became a writer of erotic works and translated works such as 'The perfumed garden' into English. And that's why we're not the third or fourth richest buggers in the world. \ufffdBIG BIG SIGH\ufffd"}, {"response": 32, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (14:58)", "body": "I've finally added you all to my ICQ program (which I had left lurking in the corner). I'll drop you all messages now..."}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:00)", "body": "What's your ICQ id? Or number? Try adding judybee@swbell.net to your icq list. Also, warm@spring.net, hot@spring.net, cold@spring.net."}, {"response": 34, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:03)", "body": "15546219 i've added hot@spring.net, i think"}, {"response": 35, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:04)", "body": "hot@spring.net doesn't seem to be online"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:06)", "body": "What about warm@spring.net ... that's where Kristen checks in."}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:07)", "body": "Do you have NetMeeting also, Mike?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:19)", "body": "i did have, but i never managed to get it configured so i didn't bother maybe if you wanted to try it out i'd have another go"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:37)", "body": "Well, all our workstations at Spring Austin are set up with NetMeeting and most with video. At least 3 or 4 are set up this way. The one in the kitchen is the most used."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:42)", "body": "The trick to finding us on NetMeeting is to log in to the server: ils.business.four11.com as a business user. Then sort the listings by city and look for Austin, TX. That will most likely show all our NetMeeting sessions. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 37, "subject": "New user helpline - the first (x) things you should do", "response_count": 54, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (10:51)", "body": "1. Creating a conference list 1.1 What is a conference list? A conference list is a list of your conferences! It's that simple. More precisely, it's a list of conferences that you regularly visit, together with information on how many unread topics and postings there are. 1.2 How do I create one? 1.2.1 From the web Click the link marked \"Conference Index\", at the top of the main page after you have logged in. This takes you to the master list of all the conferences on the Spring. Next to each conference name, you will see a description of that conference, together with a link which will allow you to add that conference to your list. For example, if you wanted to add the \"Apps\" conference to your list, you would click the \"Add to Hotlist\" link next to the \"Apps\" conference. 1.2.2 From telnet To add a conference to your conference list via the telnet interface, you must use the \"cflist\" command. It has the syntax: cflist add ... - add a conference to your list cflist delete ... - delete a conference from your list cflist show - view your conference list For example, if you wanted to add the \"Apps\" conference from telnet, you would type: cflist add Apps To check this had occurred, type: cflist show Noting that the Apps conference had appeared in your list. And that's it for creating a conference list."}, {"response": 2, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (18:36)", "body": "How about what do I do once I can link via telnet? I've searched all the conferences and topics with \"telnet\" and \"ftp\" (I think:) and found some instructions on how to set up your software. Done. Now I can't remember where that was. The last part of the info says \"when you get this far, we'll give you all kinds of help.\" Yes? TIA"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (21:27)", "body": "There should be a telnet topic in this here porch conference... what are your specific questions? And, Welcome!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (08:06)", "body": "Your host will be www.spring.net Just enter your username and password. Then type 'bbs'. And follow the help menus. You'll use the commands 'n' for next and 'r' for either respond or read depending on where you are. 'b' lets you browse the topics. You may want to change your editor from vi to pico. Most folks don't like vi unless they're geeks."}, {"response": 5, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (16:35)", "body": "i resemble that remark! VI RULES!!!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (22:47)", "body": "Ray is one of my all-time favorite geeks!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (23:06)", "body": "mine, too!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "In fact, I whish he'd get over here and give me a short demo on vi or pico or setting up virtual domains or..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (23:41)", "body": "ooh, stop, you're turning me on!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (23:50)", "body": "as if!!!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (04:26)", "body": "Wow! Wonder if I should get myself a techoid dictionary... Say, Autumn, you into music geekismo, too? What happens if I say \"quadrophony\" and \"Hertz\"? Or \"tube amp\"?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (04:28)", "body": "How about \"Dolby Surround Satellite System\"? Or \"Wow and Flutter Meter\"?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (04:32)", "body": "And hello quimby! What dictionaries do you work with?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (12:29)", "body": "Quimby is into all things of a Firthian nature, I'm afraid. Would you venture there to pursue your conversation? You will most likely find her on topic 119."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (10:17)", "body": "I think Autumn must be going into overload."}, {"response": 16, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (10:42)", "body": "Probably is now. Haven't heard from her since. Or it was her drinks in \"...Conversation\" in Screwed that did it..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Aug 13, 1999 (23:00)", "body": "If you start in on woofers and tweeters, I'm gonna be baying at the moon!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 13, 1999 (23:29)", "body": "and then Wolf will hafta join in..."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 14, 1999 (00:26)", "body": "Shall I invite Terry's Fat Lady, too?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 14, 1999 (00:30)", "body": "as if anyone needs my permission..."}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 14, 1999 (00:35)", "body": "From Terry's discription, I think I'd better open the windows and doors for fresh air...*gasp*"}, {"response": 22, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (18:50)", "body": "Jeez, I'm just not used to getting a response. Online, that is. As Marcia says I do have certain interests but if I knew there was fun happening somewhere else I would've been there yesterday (metaphorically speaking). I'm fickle that way. Telnet is fast, but sometimes I miss the pretty colors. I may be a geek but I'm a girl geek. And to Alexander (what do you like to be called?): OED mostly. I'm in that stage of life where I like to go into things deeply (in touch with my masculinity, I guess.) I'm still stumbling around trying to read things; I came of age just after BBSs were The Thing. If anyone sees half-messages or wierd missives emanating from my sessions, kindly, you know, ignore them. That maybe all you ever see, of course, but don't say I didn't warn you. Now that I have the keys to the kingdom..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:04)", "body": "Telnet is tres weird, but I am keeping my hand in it so I can do other things with it, eventually. I just emailed a bunch of folks using pine. That is primitive, but I see Hawaii-on-Line has added a spell check to it. As far as I know, and I know Alexander pretty far, that is what he likes to be called...Alexander. (...and since when is it masculine to be deep?!) My dear, you will see the beginings of my words lopped off and the words which disappeared before I could proof them misspelled for the first few times. It is one of the \"joys\" of telnetting. Enjoy!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:08)", "body": "Sweetie, I didn't mean deep in the sense of emotionally/intellectually. Heavens to Betsy. I almost wandered off in another direction in my earlier post but I didn't want to start a whole nother thread about toy stores. I don't know ya'll well enough for that."}, {"response": 25, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:12)", "body": "Oh, and I too am learning telnet for a variety of other things as well. It's so much fun, and I often think, I sure am glad I wasn't born 50 years ago. I like this brave new world."}, {"response": 26, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:13)", "body": "I mean, 50 years before I _was_ born."}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:31)", "body": "Yes...yes....we knew *smile*...I like this, too. I used to lament I could not buy enough books in myu lifetime to satisfy my quest for knowledge. Then someone came along and invented something so incredibly intellectually satisfying that I am the worst sort of addict. This is real life and the stuff accumulating around me in actuality is just a nusiance...well, almost =)....but if yould like to talk about the toys, my email works...just poke the blue name above my post and there I'll be. Would me most nterested in pursuing that line of thought!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "quimby", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (23:28)", "body": "A belated response; it seems the last one was lost to gremlins. My dear Marcia: I didn't mean deep in the intellectual sense. Heavens to Betsy!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (23:33)", "body": "should we start listing connations for deep?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (23:34)", "body": "and/or connotations..."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (23:39)", "body": "...Not without floatation of some sort handy. I tend to get in deeper than planned and stuff both of my small feet into my little mouth...which is not easy thing to do."}, {"response": 32, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (00:26)", "body": "Deep : extending far downward or inward from a surface; beyond the understanding of an average mind; resulting from or affecting one's innermost feelings; having one's thoughts fully occupied; being a sound produced by a relatively small frequency of vibrations. Connote away, please."}, {"response": 33, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (00:26)", "body": "Not the OED but a good place to start."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (00:41)", "body": "As in I am in DEEP stuff if I get any deeper into this discussion of the depth of understanding the sonic principles of the low end of the auditory wavelengths...?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (04:27)", "body": "Well, my voice gets kinda low. Maybe we should take a poll on whose voices get predominately lower or higher, percentage-wise. Connotation A feeling, thought, idea, etc. associated in one's mind or imagination with someone or something specific. Doesn't that sound lovely?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (16:30)", "body": "......Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!! It does indeed, and my mind is being *very specific...*grin*"}, {"response": 37, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (18:52)", "body": "I'm afraid I'm off topic. (always happens...) I myself don't know the first x things a new user should do. Are we actively trying to develop this?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (18:55)", "body": "Who knows. William...Help!!!!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (18:58)", "body": "But, I think it is where I help you put your bookmarks into a new version of Netscape which you have just downloaded and did not know how...and stuff like that. We just wandered far afield, as is our wont to do sometimes...*smiling sheepishly*"}, {"response": 40, "author": "quimby", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (03:36)", "body": "I know. I love wandering far afield. I'm trying to be a good citizen. But I always find myself rolling in the grass. Or the hay. Good thing I don't have allergies."}, {"response": 41, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:16)", "body": "*not commenting*"}, {"response": 42, "author": "quimby", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (21:41)", "body": "William (if I may call you that): your silence speaks volumes, but the pages are blank. But maybe you're too busy giving people tiramisu. Understandable. Nice to know you're there. Edie Brickell lyric circa 1986 or so: Shove me in the shallow water before I get too deep. :-) Where is this Mike fella? Are we supposed to do this leaderless? Truth be told we could actually do it. Votes, anyone?"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (21:55)", "body": "Unless it is something I know *very* well, I am not going to 'work' this conference as an expert. We have people with advanced degrees and years of experience in developing programs and graphics waiting to answer real questions. I am moving off of this topic so it can be used for its original purpose."}, {"response": 44, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:04)", "body": "and I usually don't partake in any of the voting..."}, {"response": 45, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:38)", "body": "I was just being silly. I don't have the faintest notion, except what I didn't/don't know."}, {"response": 46, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:43)", "body": "Whew! I am in over my head here. I am just afraid with the little bit about everything I know, I am going to mess up big time sometime, and that is one thing I will avoid at all costs. Well, almost all."}, {"response": 47, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (01:27)", "body": "Probably you'll just help someone, like you said, bookmark etc. I hardly think you're gonna send them macro viruses in a weak moment. I cannot see you messing anyone up. You know a lot more than the average user."}, {"response": 48, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (01:30)", "body": "And I just checked; I was right. Terry wouldn't have put to you the list of people to consult if you were in over your head. But maybe your pulling our legs."}, {"response": 49, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (05:15)", "body": "[pops head through the door] hi everyone"}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (11:15)", "body": "Hey, Mike!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (11:57)", "body": "Might we invite you to take off your shoes and get comfortable here, Mike? Must you rush off so soon?"}, {"response": 52, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (16:05)", "body": "Hey Mike! We haven't met but there was all this romping going on in your room here, so I crashed the party. Did Terry tell you to come home before we trashed the joint?"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (16:12)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 54, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (08:53)", "body": ":-)) porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 38, "subject": "SpringCam! Comments on the slides and sounds", "response_count": 161, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (01:50)", "body": "Now this is me talking to Holly at Leightons party. I had a wonderful time talking to her, and she was fascinating and animated. I grabbed this picture off the webcam as it rolled by with a right mouseclick."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (01:54)", "body": "At that's Mr. Dedicated Margarita maker on the left. I'm partially obscured by some purple floral object, as you can see. Now this is my room mate Kristen, who had a great time talking to Mr. Healer. I think he's starting a website called http://www.holistic.com"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (01:57)", "body": "So you grab a cool pic. Make a comment. Ask about it. You just don't know what you'll see next. Get me pumped up with your comments and no telling what I'll get inspired to put up there. True cinema veritie. Riette, you really do log in at 1 am!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (02:07)", "body": "Now, this Gretchen is quite the magnetic lady and an awesome dancer. Hope she makes the scene at our party tomorrow. She's a regular at the parties and events that I've been to lately."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (02:08)", "body": "(scribbled)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (02:10)", "body": "(scribbled)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (02:15)", "body": "So you grab a cool pic. Make a comment. Ask about it. You just don't know what you'll see next. Get me pumped up with your comments and no telling what I'll get inspired to put up there. True cinema veritie. Riette, you really do log in at 1 am!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (07:53)", "body": "$hit, yeah! And I am spitefully witholding positive feedback, so: It all looks disgustingly pleasant, and I hope you all have huge hangovers tomorrow. \ufffdSIGH\ufffd No, I'm being mean. Hope you all have a great time until the huge hangovers hit!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (12:46)", "body": "shouldn't this topic be in art as well?..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (13:11)", "body": "Yes, Terry and his cronies are probably turning enjoyment into an art form as we speak . . ."}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (13:46)", "body": "so link it in, Terry..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "spew", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (00:42)", "body": "haha...I've successfully avoided the camera since my arrival..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (01:14)", "body": "Why? Did you forget to comb your face?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (01:47)", "body": "so's I wouldn't scare you, wolf, and autumn off..."}, {"response": 15, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (04:22)", "body": "not to mention Stacey . . . But it's a shame, 'cos I like scary things - but I'm only speaking for myself. I see there was some dancing going on at the party as well - has any hangovers hit yet?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (09:32)", "body": "too late for Stacey...we done met... almost a hangover..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (11:17)", "body": "What??? You finally met Stacey? And did you like her? Did she like you?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (12:05)", "body": "Riette, you need to go back to the pre-Christmas postings in...philosophy, maybe? I seem to recall something about tirami su... Wer, I have such a mental picture of you, I don't know if i want it confirmed or denied!!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (15:14)", "body": "should I even ask?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 19, 1998 (15:38)", "body": "No, you should give us the answer!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (10:08)", "body": "Two out of three springcams are *sick*, they're going to the camcorder doctor today. Lotsa technical difficulties with these at the bash Sat. night."}, {"response": 22, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (11:09)", "body": "You mean those little dots that appeared on some of the pictures? Must be measles then."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (14:35)", "body": "Problem more like casette door mechanism."}, {"response": 24, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (14:54)", "body": "Right. A hernia then."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (15:07)", "body": "You're getting warm."}, {"response": 26, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (16:20)", "body": ":-))"}, {"response": 27, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (22:42)", "body": "Wer, it's so delicious I'm keeping it to myself..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (00:23)", "body": "????? (sorry, Autumn, but I'm tired and short on time...will figure it out tomorrow)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (05:53)", "body": "ha-ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That sounded wonderfully vulgar! I should hope so, Autumn!!!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:32)", "body": "I put back the tape of Leightons party? See any cool frames? Grab 'em and post 'em up here! Comments?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (07:21)", "body": "Like how?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (12:21)", "body": "Right mouse click on the picture, may darhhlingk."}, {"response": 33, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (13:11)", "body": "I'll try it, but don't be worried if I then dissappear from the spring for several days - my screen will probably explode."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (15:32)", "body": "No it works! And it's safe."}, {"response": 35, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (01:31)", "body": "That's what my husband used to say, and I got pregnant anyway!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (05:49)", "body": "Then use a conceptive on your right mouse clicker, be safe if you must."}, {"response": 37, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (06:38)", "body": "HA-HA!!!! Will wear my dish gloves when computering in the future! Well, I took the risk, and right clicked the picture - and a list of options came up. Which one do I take, and what do I then do with it?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (07:36)", "body": "click on save as...then tell it to save it where you want it on your computer..."}, {"response": 39, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (08:14)", "body": "and then?"}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (08:49)", "body": "Then double click on it and run it! telnet www.spring.net and login in with your username and password and type bbs. Read the directions that come up initially."}, {"response": 41, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (12:25)", "body": "I shall try not to fail."}, {"response": 42, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (13:34)", "body": "No...do or do not there is no try."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (14:47)", "body": "You can do it!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (15:20)", "body": "Good luck, Riette, I have never had any luck with this. I can never find it again to run it. I guess I'm just a big LOSER!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (17:49)", "body": "*smooch* I just LOVE losers!!!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (01:26)", "body": "I tried. I lost. No more!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (10:47)", "body": "you will get it, you two, I promise..."}, {"response": 48, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (21:13)", "body": "I don't want to get it--that will be my claim to fame when I'm 50; I'll still only be able to go to the Spring on the internet and read my email."}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (23:59)", "body": "I just put in a new tape. I'm going to start switching between a lot of different tapes from many different eras. Including my trip to the Caymans, some stuff I shot 10 years ago when the spring was getting started, some outrageous parties, and many events around Austin. And we'll go live from time to time also."}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (00:10)", "body": "too bad you can't do every one, and let people pick the \"station\" they want to watch..."}, {"response": 51, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (04:16)", "body": "Terry, I think those pictures are great. I always look at them before I log in."}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (06:57)", "body": "Thanks. Wow. Feedback!!! Um. Thank you!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (07:38)", "body": "You're welcome. You're welcome."}, {"response": 54, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (10:53)", "body": "terry, i enjoy the pix also, tho i only see them occasionally since i telnet into the spring!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (12:41)", "body": "Hi, Ray! Did your bride find a gown?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (13:47)", "body": "she is doing so as i type this! meanwhile, i am preparing to take a 3 day business trip to Washington DC. yuk!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 26, 1998 (00:53)", "body": "You poor thing. Well, just think of how much MORE you'll love each other when you're away, and how sweet the return will be."}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 26, 1998 (08:10)", "body": "Uh oh, Ray must have gotten a notice in the mail from Ken Starr."}, {"response": 59, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 26, 1998 (23:19)", "body": "way to go, Ray!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (08:11)", "body": "Hey, Terry, I've finally finished your blasted video. It's really stupid/boring/buggered/chaotic/silly. Do I send it to the address that Tim gave me in food?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (09:26)", "body": "That would work! Great! Please ship it our way!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "TIM", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (16:20)", "body": "Waiting with pleasant anticipation!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (17:05)", "body": "and a whole group of anticipatory peasants with pheasants..."}, {"response": 64, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (02:11)", "body": "booh! It will shatter every illusion you ever had about me! I made sure I included footage of three years ago when Isa was a baby, and I was pregnant with Elza, and BIG, FAT, UGLY! That'll teach you a lesson or two! For aesthetics, there's footage on Cape Town, Swakopmund and Z\ufffdrich."}, {"response": 65, "author": "TIM", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (03:34)", "body": "Perhaps a visit to the EYE doctor is in order. You? Ugly?? Mutually Exclusive."}, {"response": 66, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (08:21)", "body": "damn straight!"}, {"response": 67, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (08:52)", "body": "So, it's in the mail?"}, {"response": 68, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Nov 21, 1998 (01:19)", "body": "Almost - I want to get Tim's cheese and chocolate to send along as well, and then I'll send it via express mail."}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 21, 1998 (21:56)", "body": "Excellent! Woo woo."}, {"response": 70, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (01:57)", "body": "Poo Poo!"}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (07:09)", "body": "Is in the mail, ree ree?"}, {"response": 72, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (07:48)", "body": "It will be in about an hour from now."}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (07:53)", "body": "That's so fine!"}, {"response": 74, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (11:07)", "body": "Bon Voyage! It's on its way! And it wasn't even expensive to send! I sent it express, so it should arrive in less than a week - hopefully the cheese will keep until then!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 10, 1999 (10:17)", "body": "Today the SpringCam is especially active at both houses, so check it out and make comments here. We're not running tape today."}, {"response": 76, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (05:34)", "body": "http://www.spring.net/~terry/cap.jpg What is that? Terry, I'd wish there were captions with the cam."}, {"response": 77, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (05:35)", "body": "And this pasting of pics doesn't work for me... How to?"}, {"response": 78, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (11:29)", "body": "that requires a long response, Alexander...do you need to know the whole process, or just the syntax of the image tag?"}, {"response": 79, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (15:33)", "body": "Got it written down somewhere? Mail me pls. Want to do this, too!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "not exactly...well, maybe on here somewhere... do you have any personal web space anywhere?"}, {"response": 81, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (07:26)", "body": "Nope. Always wanted (on a Domino server, of all places, but didn't find any acceptable offer for Lotus Domino-webhosting; wonder if that were something we could Mr. Terry get interested in...), never did. The story of my live."}, {"response": 82, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (11:37)", "body": "if you can't do the picture thang, who put the one up in InternationalConflicts?"}, {"response": 83, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (13:37)", "body": "An unrelated comment wer, but is there a way to have a conference with an alias? For example, could internationalconflict have the alias of conflict or int or in, or all of these? Do you know if this is yappable?"}, {"response": 84, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (15:21)", "body": "Terry, how about just creating a new Conf with a shrt name, and put all topics up in there, too? Ought to do it, no?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (23:22)", "body": "yes, but that takes up double the space, Alexander... not sure, Terry, I'll look into it..."}, {"response": 86, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (05:26)", "body": "Terry, smart move to do stuff with the \"Terry - Spring\" cap on, and hype it here via SpringCam! What was that? Radio?"}, {"response": 87, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (07:53)", "body": "Today's schedule: http://www.tvshows.com/schedule.html Fr 1:00 PM Messages Of Ancient Stones Fr 6:00 PM Women's News Hour Fr 7:00 PM On Being Ourselves Fr 8:00 PM Electric Screegin' Fr 9:00 PM Liberation Fr 10:00 PM X - It Fr 11:00 PM Pun Zone Fr 12:00 AM Echo In Austin Fr 2:00 AM CapZeyZ Clips Fr 3:00 AM CapZeyZ Clips The CapZeyeZ Clips are some of Austin's best music and it's a call in talk show as well."}, {"response": 88, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (09:06)", "body": "is that you with the cap showing right now?"}, {"response": 89, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (20:29)", "body": "Was it a green baseball hat? If so, probably yours truly. Did you listen to the sound?"}, {"response": 90, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jun 28, 1999 (04:58)", "body": "Huh, not me - my boxes are %$\ufffd&!-ed again. Need new recovery plans for hd's..."}, {"response": 91, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "Whaddya call that doohickey between the dollar sign and the ampersand? What's it for?"}, {"response": 92, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (12:55)", "body": "This one : \ufffd ?"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (13:06)", "body": "Isn't that a symbol used in legal briefs or something?"}, {"response": 94, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (13:31)", "body": "Yep. In German, it is pronounced \"Paragraph\", which might give you an idea where it is used... Them ole laws!"}, {"response": 95, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (16:46)", "body": "Wonder if you can have a domain with that symbol (how do you type it on a keyboard)?"}, {"response": 96, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (00:19)", "body": "Must need to switch your keyboard language to German. In English the paragraph symbol is a \"P\" with an extra line next to it. I like yours better!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (01:07)", "body": "don't you say that to all the guys, Autumn?"}, {"response": 98, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (05:04)", "body": "*blushing to an impressive, deep purple shade which people well educated in the blushing business would perhaps even call violet*"}, {"response": 99, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (05:08)", "body": "On my - admittedly German keyboard - it's \"shift + 4\" . That help any? I guess no domain name like that possible - not in the set of allowed characters... (neither are & and % or + or # which all would be useful, too)."}, {"response": 100, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (22:56)", "body": "Hey, I never met a P I didn't like! Shift + 4 is a dollar sign on our keyboard. (Guess you don't need that one, huh?)"}, {"response": 101, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (06:13)", "body": "Got it here, anyway: $, which is shift + 4. Ooops. This here keyboard has the \ufffd at shift + 3, sorry!"}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (11:19)", "body": "++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"}, {"response": 103, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (13:40)", "body": ""}, {"response": 104, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (13:41)", "body": ""}, {"response": 105, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (13:45)", "body": "looks as though my fingers haven't awoken yet this morning..."}, {"response": 106, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 13, 1999 (10:37)", "body": "I'm on live right now watching a webcast at http://webevents.broadcast.com/ibm/win2000 It will be going for about another hour till 11:30 AM."}, {"response": 107, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Oct 13, 1999 (11:16)", "body": "Ah, so that IS you on the SpringCam. Cool!"}, {"response": 108, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 13, 1999 (12:23)", "body": "Are you going to rebroadcast the SpringCam show ? I was sleeping when it was on and I want to see Terry!"}, {"response": 109, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 13, 1999 (17:59)", "body": "If I have a tape of it, I will. I haven't looked at the tape and I think it may have taken."}, {"response": 110, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 13, 1999 (18:32)", "body": "I shall await your posting notice if/when you do show it again. It was 5 am here and a bit early for even me to turn on the computer (though not unheard of.)"}, {"response": 111, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 15, 1999 (15:35)", "body": "Blond, smiling, in front of a curtain? That you, Terry?"}, {"response": 112, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (01:50)", "body": "Nope. Wasn't on at that time."}, {"response": 113, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (08:11)", "body": "Here's the place you wanted to know about, Marcia. The webcam is now playing, in order, Wailers concert, a brief bit of Elota's play, and my trip to the Hill country of Texas today. I don't know if you'll catch it, but I shot a pic of the poster that has the spring for sale on Purgatory road. It has 37' deep crystal clear water."}, {"response": 114, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (11:08)", "body": "I did see it last night - the sign behind the glass. It appears to have little waterfalls and a lovely setting. It is truly a lovely place. With more planting, it could become a truly beautiful place. No wonder you were attracted to it. $450,000 is what I cannot quite handle, though I am sure it is worth it. How many acres does that include?"}, {"response": 115, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (13:35)", "body": "[The link to the RealAudio-file is dead, I think. Can't listen to the springcam audio anymore, because my player doesn't find it.]"}, {"response": 116, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (13:41)", "body": "Alexander, it is apparently not working now. I cannot get either the sound or the screen which pops open under the realplayer. They must be tweaking again! (It is so good to see you posting again *hugs*)"}, {"response": 117, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (13:49)", "body": "[Being busy. Well, you know.]"}, {"response": 118, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (13:53)", "body": "I am happy that is your reason... Remember?! Forever! Count on it..*hugs* and *smiles*"}, {"response": 119, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (14:07)", "body": "[We have our third, btw...just thought you might be interested... I just wish I could make you feel as good as Remember does for me...*wistful smile*]"}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (15:09)", "body": "***S I G H***"}, {"response": 121, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (15:25)", "body": "I've had the same picture for ages - who is it?"}, {"response": 122, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (15:38)", "body": "Not sure....I think it is one of the play readers from Terry's weekend home videos, but this looks to be a formal presentation. Etole I think he said the name was...perhaps he will come back and tell us."}, {"response": 123, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (15:42)", "body": "well, she must be tired of having her face plastered on spring for 24 hours! i thought it was a televangalist or something.....*grin*"}, {"response": 124, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (15:48)", "body": "do you see \"remember\"? it's there right now..."}, {"response": 125, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (16:10)", "body": "U"}, {"response": 126, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (16:11)", "body": "It is indeed! But Maggie cannot see it... but she sees it in Geo and I cannot."}, {"response": 127, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (16:17)", "body": "this has topic has remember because it was listed as forgotten. didn't see it in geo either :("}, {"response": 128, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (16:21)", "body": "It isn't for me! I posted in it a few times yesterday and nothing \"unusual\" button-wise was here. *sigh* They are still here and he is offline. Hmmmm... I tried the forget button in Geo and there is no remember button just a written word where it should be."}, {"response": 129, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (21:01)", "body": ""}, {"response": 130, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (21:33)", "body": "That lady has been frozen for all time on SpringCam. I am very happy it is not me - how tiresome. Perhaps a neutral back ground would be better than the same lady (or man)...*sigh*"}, {"response": 131, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (03:30)", "body": "Maybe I'll webcame the home construction today. We're building a 3,000 square foot \"cathedral\" in Cedar Creek, there will be at least a dozen carpenters arring in the morning and we're putting together the cornerpiece of the Spring Rooms rental strategy. It will feature an 18 x 36 kitchen and an 18 x 36 basketball court and game room / living room with a 20' ceiling. We're building it all this weekend. I'll see if Jason will do it, because I'm going to be pounding nails."}, {"response": 132, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (07:06)", "body": "Wow I'm impressed. BTW she's still there."}, {"response": 133, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (10:10)", "body": "Construction would be a whole lot more interesting than the still of the lady reading a book. Terry, you're gonna be sore but fit when you are finished. I do hope you do tape it. Sounds great - and you are a whole lot better to watch than Bob Villa...*grin*"}, {"response": 134, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (15:29)", "body": "I didn't tape it yet, but we just laid blocks today. The delivery truck tore down the electric pole."}, {"response": 135, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (15:40)", "body": "Wonderful! I imagine that was not part of the services you needed him for. Are you on donkey and carrot now?! Always happens on a weekend and the utility guys can't get to you till Monday?! Sheesh!"}, {"response": 136, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (07:51)", "body": "We got back up and running in about 4 hours. I ran electricity from my other house. We got all the piers in for this 3,000 sf plus addition. Today we start the real framing and I'll pick up some tapes to document it."}, {"response": 137, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (10:30)", "body": "Not sore yet? If you aren't, you don't need a fitness regime - you already have one! I AM impressed! It is still the lady on main and the SpringCam link brings up a Realplayer and a box saying \"request not found\"...*sigh* Guess it os still sleeping"}, {"response": 138, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (20:13)", "body": "Is anyone else having trouble getting sound for SpringCam? Or a picture which changes, for that matter. Do I have another \"thing\" to fix before I can see it like everyone else does, or do the rest of you have the same problems?"}, {"response": 139, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (20:16)", "body": "In fact, since the move, I have not seen anything except the private viewing of Terry's road trip to the hill country in the middle of the night and the viewing for the rest of the world the next day."}, {"response": 140, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (23:08)", "body": "A lot of the front page of spring.net doesn't load right for me. I think the relative URL's aren't working with Netscape 4.5. Instead of a relative URL, I get something like http://cap.jpg , which doesn't work. Some of the pics and the \"What's Cool\" list have this kind of a problem."}, {"response": 141, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (23:14)", "body": "I can get the what's cool list (using Netscape 4.7 here)...at least, the Quick Fix...*sigh* For SpringCam I get this does not work box with this url pnm://spring.net:7070/sprin5/live.ra"}, {"response": 142, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (23:19)", "body": "...and I cannot get any pictures in that black table on the far right... I REALLY don't want to download IE. Yak!!!"}, {"response": 143, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (09:23)", "body": "I don't always have the sound on. If there's a time you want to see it, or one to see something in particular (I'll publish a list of choices), then call me on dialpad and I'll start the tape. I'm doing some stuff to raise funds on http://www.jefftv.com . Anyone here can get their own encoder and do shows, I'll set them up with instructions."}, {"response": 144, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (13:10)", "body": "Oooh...Going to investigate the URL you posted. Any chance of making an all-Terry loop and running it non-stop like you did with Ree? I'd love to watch that (still wondering how to get a recent picture of you off that tape...*sigh*) Which number on dialpad? Quailhouse or the other?"}, {"response": 145, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:21)", "body": "I'll see what I can find. I have two dialpads going, springnet and quailhouse. I'm usually at quailhouse during the day and springnet at night, our Cedar Creek Internet is down now, (too big a SW Bell phone bill to handle) but it would be cedarhouse if it was up. Otherwise, call me on my cellphone 512 699 4000."}, {"response": 146, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:40)", "body": "Gotcha! *grin* You sounded great!"}, {"response": 147, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:41)", "body": "thanks, you sounded a bit low key. Maybe you'll be peppier next time I call! Maybe I was low key and you picked up my vibes?"}, {"response": 148, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "Nope...rough day on the home front. I really needed to hear a friendly voice, and yours was wonderful. Thank you *very* much! *hugs*"}, {"response": 149, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Nov 25, 2000 (05:48)", "body": "You should get yourself a screensaver in the Cedar Creek office - that Win95 display has been burning all night :-)"}, {"response": 150, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 25, 2000 (15:58)", "body": "I think the man is OverDosing on football this weekend. Politicans are passe. Maybe he should point the webcam out the window and let us watch it flood!"}, {"response": 151, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Nov 25, 2000 (23:48)", "body": "Is it flooding there?"}, {"response": 152, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (18:55)", "body": "...and tornadoes... I have been postiong sever weather warnings for Austin area in Geo 14 (also linked to the news conference) about it since before Thanksgiving!"}, {"response": 153, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (01:47)", "body": "eeeek..."}, {"response": 154, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (07:28)", "body": "Yeah, I've got to get the other webcam working, it's pretty boring watching my office in Cedar Creek! (except for occasional bursts of excitement)"}, {"response": 155, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (14:53)", "body": "That is your office???!!! I'd settle for that if you were there on occasion!"}, {"response": 156, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (19:55)", "body": "I'm there now."}, {"response": 157, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (23:45)", "body": "gadzooks!!! I musta missed you unles you morphed into three blonde girls with bad hair days...."}, {"response": 158, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 7, 2000 (07:34)", "body": "I'm usually on the webcam in the evenings. Daytimes, it's running live tv shows."}, {"response": 159, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 7, 2000 (21:30)", "body": "Like, I'll be on now for about 20 minutes."}, {"response": 160, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (11:32)", "body": "The webcam is coming from three sources today, two cams in the Cedar Creek office and one from the Austin office showing local content. I'm going to revive the audio in the next few days, it's been dying a lot."}, {"response": 161, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jan 22, 2001 (13:51)", "body": "Note the new format on the http://www.spring.net/webcast page. More pictures. Better sound. Better programming. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 39, "subject": "The w command", "response_count": 41, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (23:48)", "body": "terry ttyp0 hot.spring.com Mon Jul 20 23:39 still logged in spif ttyp0 spiffy.tranquility.net Mon Jul 20 22:46 - 22:46 (00:00) anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 22:05 - 22:08 (00:03) ratthing ttyp0 tcnet07-61.sat.texas.net Mon Jul 20 21:31 - 21:58 (00:27) terry ftp cool.spring.com Mon Jul 20 20:58 still logged in anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 20:55 - 21:42 (00:46) anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 20:41 - 20:48 (00:07) anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 20:31 - 20:40 (00:09) nan ftp pool-207-205-162-180.nwrk.grid.n Mon Jul 20 20:18 - 20:21 (00:03) ratthing ttyp0 tcnet01-54.sat.texas.net Mon Jul 20 19:23 - 19:24 (00:00) nbba ftp ftw-tx14-48.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 19:01 - 19:03 (00:01) nan ftp pool-207-205-163-58.nwrk.grid.ne Mon Jul 20 18:30 - 18:31 (00:00) nan ftp pool-207-205-163-58.nwrk.grid.ne Mon Jul 20 18:28 - 18:29 (00:01) nan ftp pool-207-205-163-58.nwrk.grid.ne Mon Jul 20 18:17 - 18:21 (00:03) ratthing ttyp3 tcnet05-29.sat.texas.net Mon Jul 20 17:17 - 17:19 (00:02) jeff ttyp3 core.ibecaven.com Mon Jul 20 17:14 - 17:16 (00:01) terry ttyp2 uugate.tivoli.com Mon Jul 20 17:03 - 17:34 (00:31) mikeg ttyp0 griggs.demon.co.uk Mon Jul 20 17:01 - 17:28 (00:26) ratthing ttyp0 well.com Mon Jul 20 16:53 - 17:00 (00:06) terry ttyp0 uugate.tivoli.com Mon Jul 20 16:08 - 16:43 (00:34) amy ttyp0 landshark.shore.net Mon Jul 20 15:13 - 15:15 (00:01) anneh ftp min-mn1-10.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 15:00 - 15:07 (00:07) anneh ftp min-mn1-10.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 14:56 - 15:00 (00:04) anneh ftp min-mn1-10.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 14:40 - 14:53 (00:12) terry ttyp1 ns2 Mon Jul 20 14:17 - 17:46 (03:28) terry ttyp1 ns2 Mon Jul 20 14:07 - 14:12 (00:05) anneh ftp min-mn1-10.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 13:59 - 14:14 (00:15) stacey ttyp1 1Cust225.tnt14.dfw5.da.uu.net Mon Jul 20 13:18 - 13:55 (00:36) stacey ttyp1 1Cust225.tnt14.dfw5.da.uu.net Mon Jul 20 13:18 - 13:18 (00:00) terry ttyp0 ns2 Mon Jul 20 12:48 - 15:08 (02:20) ratthing ttyp1 tcnet05-14.sat.texas.net Mon Jul 20 10:00 - 10:06 (00:05) terry ttyp0 ns2 Mon Jul 20 09:57 - 11:02 (01:04) nan ftp pool-207-205-161-232.nwrk.grid.n Mon Jul 20 00:00 - 00:08 (00:07) nan ftp pool-207-205-162-119.nwrk.grid.n Sun Jul 19 14:13 - 14:14 (00:00) nan ftp pool-207-205-162-119.nwrk.grid.n Sun Jul 19 14:03 - 14:04 (00:00) terry ftp cool.spring.com Sun Jul 19 10:20 - 20:37 (1+10:17) spew ftp spork-ppp.mesas.com Sun Jul 19 10:10 - 10:11 (00:00) spew ftp spork-ppp.mesas.com Sun Jul 19 09:23 - 09:24 (00:01) spew ftp spork-ppp.mesas.com Sun Jul 19 09:16 - 09:17 (00:01) chris ftp spork-ppp.mesas.com Sun Jul 19 09:16 - 09:16 (00:00) mrobens ttyp0 207.205.162.197 Sun Jul 19 08:43 - 08:44 (00:01) ratthing ttyp0 tcnet04-25.sat.texas.net Sun Jul 19 00:28 - 00:28 (00:00)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (05:55)", "body": "What?!?!?! What is the w-command? What do you do with it? And what are all these codes on my screen?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:33)", "body": "The w command shows who logs in to the shell and how long they hung around. Are you going to make a shell debut, Riette?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:49)", "body": "I acutally meant for this topic to be called the last command, so I'll change it."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:50)", "body": "mikeg ttyp1 griggs.demon.co.uk Tue Jul 21 03:56 - 04:08 (00:12) terry ttyp0 hot.spring.com Mon Jul 20 23:39 still logged in spif ttyp0 spiffy.tranquility.net Mon Jul 20 22:46 - 22:46 (00:00) anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 22:05 - 22:08 (00:03) ratthing ttyp0 tcnet07-61.sat.texas.net Mon Jul 20 21:31 - 21:58 (00:27) terry ftp cool.spring.com Mon Jul 20 20:58 still logged in anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 20:55 - 21:42 (00:46) anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 20:41 - 20:48 (00:07) anneh ftp min-mn16-22.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 20:31 - 20:40 (00:09) nan ftp pool-207-205-162-180.nwrk.grid.n Mon Jul 20 20:18 - 20:21 (00:03) ratthing ttyp0 tcnet01-54.sat.texas.net Mon Jul 20 19:23 - 19:24 (00:00) nbba ftp ftw-tx14-48.ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 20 19:01 - 19:03 (00:01) nan ftp pool-207-205-163-58.nwrk.grid.ne Mon Jul 20 18:30 - 18:31 (00:00) nan ftp pool-207-205-163-58.nwrk.grid.ne Mon Jul 20 18:28 - 18:29 (00:01) nan ftp pool-207-205-163-58.nwrk.grid.ne Mon Jul 20 18:17 - 18:21 (00:03) ratthing ttyp3 tcnet05-29.sat.texas.net Mon Jul 20 17:17 - 17:19 (00:02) jeff ttyp3 core.ibecaven.com Mon Jul 20 17:14 - 17:16 (00:01)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (07:22)", "body": "I'll make a shell debut, but I don't know how or what it is! Oh, Terry, you are so confusing!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (12:22)", "body": "What's confusing to you?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (13:13)", "body": "Everything, just everything! Sometimes you speak English, and then, without a warning in the world, you switch to computer language. And all this talk about shells! What CAN it be? And you won't answer my questions in English either. Just more of those confusing codes, and I can't work it out at all."}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (13:55)", "body": "no more lurking, eh? Now EVERYBODY knows who visited and when!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (15:35)", "body": "Just in the shell. If anyone objects, I won't publish these stats. Riette, you'll need this: ftp://ftp.vandyke.com/pub/CRT/ntcrt22.exe Click on the above link or paste it into your browser. Then save it on your hard dirve and click on it. Then await further instructions."}, {"response": 11, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (01:34)", "body": "Okay, I'm doing it, but it seems huge! Won't it eat up all my computer's memory?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (05:52)", "body": "Nope, downloads don't eat up memory. They do cut in to your *hard drive space\" or *storage* which is vastly different that memory, my sweet. When you click on the \"c:\\\" icon when you run Explorer how much disk space does it say you have left? Do you know how many mbs of hard disk space you have remaining. There are several ways to find this out if you need help with this."}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (06:43)", "body": "My computer doesn't have a c:/ icon thing. And which is one of the several ways of finding out about how many mbs (memory bites or what?) I've got left? I think when I got it it hat 32 whatevers of hard drive space. I only intended it for typing text and surfing the net, and e-mailing, not all these weird things. And, by the way that download DID eat everything up, so I aborted mission."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (08:49)", "body": "You're low on disk space! Time for a good housekeeping!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (12:27)", "body": "I dust my computer every day, thank you very much!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (10:17)", "body": "Ok: exit You are now leaving the genx conference. This file may be edited by a fairwitness. bash$ w 10:15AM up 49 days, 18:06, 4 users, load averages: 1.50, 1.36, 1.31 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT terry p0 hot.spring.com 7:26AM 2:27 -bash (bash) terry p2 ns2 11Aug98 7days -bash (bash) bernie p4 hafnium.chem.qmw 9:45AM 0 (pine) Now, maybe we could get bernie to talk to us?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (10:38)", "body": "who is bernie??"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (10:58)", "body": "[39/44] Respond, forget, or pass? !finger bernie Login: bernie Name: Bernie Parkin Directory: /usr/home/bernie Shell: /bin/tcsh Office: London, +0-171-975-5028 Home Phone: B.C.Parkin@qmw.ac.uk On since Wed Aug 19 10:44 (CDT) on ttyp3 from hafnium.chem.qmw.ac.uk On since Wed Aug 19 09:45 (CDT) on ttyp4 from hafnium.chem.qmw.ac.uk No Plan. I think he's on of the folks who wanted the peacemaker conference."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (11:00)", "body": "Check out http://www.spring.net/~bernie"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:51)", "body": "$ finger @www [www.spring.net] Login Name Tty Idle Login Time Office Office Phone peter Peter Jensen *p3 13:35 Aug 26 00:57 ratthing Ray Lopez p5 1:20 Aug 26 13:28 ratthing@w stacey Stacey Vura p6 Aug 26 14:31 terry Paul Terry Walhus *p0 15:08 Aug 25 00:26"}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:53)", "body": "there's my name... in lights!!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (17:20)", "body": "Maybe sometime we'll all pick a time and get everyone logged in at the same time."}, {"response": 23, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (01:17)", "body": "heeeee-haaaaaw!!!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (21:16)", "body": "ok, so, like, i'm here, where's everybody else?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (21:38)", "body": "I be here, but I'm heading out soon."}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (01:08)", "body": "So when is this big date of ours going to be?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (17:03)", "body": "You pick it ree."}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (02:04)", "body": "Me?! I can't - I'm the only one on this side of the world! You can't all arrange your time around me, I have to arrange mine around you. So make suggestions, and I'll see which one I can make."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (11:47)", "body": "OK, 6 pm on the 6th 7 pm on the 7th 8 pm on the 8th 9 pm on the 9th 10 pm on the 10th These are all CST."}, {"response": 30, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (01:32)", "body": "Is CST your time, or mine?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (09:45)", "body": "CST."}, {"response": 32, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (12:39)", "body": "That doesn't answer my question. I'll rephrase: Is CST the time displayed on the conference?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (20:53)", "body": "CST is our time riette, i believe you guys are something like 7 hours ahead. and i'll tell you in a minute if the time posted is the time here..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (20:54)", "body": "that would be our time here in Central Daylight Time. You guys might actually be 8 hours ahead from us and 7 hours ahead on the east coast...."}, {"response": 35, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (01:08)", "body": "Okay, thanks, Wolf. I think it is 7 hours difference between here and the spring. Any chance of making the Big Date at 16:00, instead of later? Chris gets a little cranky when I mess about with the computer keys all night, and so I use night time to work and do designs QUIETLY, and without giggling or growling. If not, then it's okay too. I might just pop in briefly, and catch up the next morning."}, {"response": 36, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (01:09)", "body": "Oh, Terry, NOW I know what you meant - I'm so slow!! CST means Central Spring Time, right?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (01:09)", "body": "Sure, how about posting a revised sked, Ree Head?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (01:14)", "body": "Fourish every day would be fine for me. But if that doesn't suit the rest of you, just go ahead without me - don't want to stop it from happening just because I live in an awkward time zone."}, {"response": 39, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (19:11)", "body": "it's seven, where's everyone? (sorry I missed yesterday, will miss tomorrow also...)"}, {"response": 40, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (06:04)", "body": ">B.C.Parkin@qmw.ac.uk Queen Mary and Westfield College, University of London! That was my second choice University! What a small world we live in..."}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 30, 1998 (09:18)", "body": "bash$ w 9:17AM up 1 day, 20:54, 4 users, load averages: 1.51, 1.29, 1.26 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT terry p0 208.128.51.206 10:12PM 10:55 pico index.html terry p1 s03.austin.ibm.c 9:08AM 0 w stacey p2 firewall.schulle 9:16AM 0 bbs ratthing p3 tcnet02-01.sat.t 9:17AM 0 finger porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 4, "subject": "Topic Incubator...ideas for new topics around the Spring", "response_count": 119, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (19:27)", "body": "The austen conference just landed here a week ago and it's sizzling. More that you thought possible to know about the works and media productions of Jane Austen. And some of the most engaging poeple you'll ever want to meet. j austen."}, {"response": 2, "author": "maddog", "date": "Thu, Jan 2, 1997 (22:22)", "body": "Terry, whatever happened to the parenting/homeschool conference we talked about?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (01:00)", "body": "I'll set that up tonight. I was just talking to someone who's very big in the homeschooling scene in Austin today."}, {"response": 4, "author": "maddog", "date": "Tue, Jan 7, 1997 (14:32)", "body": "...cool, cause the eMinds topic is still languishing woulda thought there would be more interest over there"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 3, 1998 (20:10)", "body": "maddog where are you?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Tue, Feb 3, 1998 (20:33)", "body": "(y'mean \"mad-wolf\"?)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Tue, Feb 3, 1998 (20:39)", "body": "geez, didn't know I'd cause quite the stir *wolf throws her head back and laughs like a mad scientist*"}, {"response": 8, "author": "drool", "date": "Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (02:10)", "body": "I always find that here in courpus christi that the spring break bunch are a hot topic, I went to the beach last year and saw a multitude of of interesting (top)ics or is that topless anyway I understand that M-TV is coming to padre island. I bet there will be even more topics or whatever this year. drool"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (08:50)", "body": "Maybe you'll start a Corpus topic in travel?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (19:01)", "body": "PERVERT!!!!! *silly laugh*"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (19:12)", "body": "Maybe I will, and, uh, maybe I won't. I've never been to a spring break."}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (19:20)", "body": "intoxicating T&A fest!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (12:48)", "body": "Marvin Gaye tunes coming to mind..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (02:01)", "body": "damn, wer... (\"let's get it on\")... (sheesh!)"}, {"response": 18, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (02:02)", "body": "(sorry... couldn't help it)..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (10:08)", "body": "thanks for clueing him in nick!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Fri, Apr 17, 1998 (21:12)", "body": "OK, now back on topic..... Terry, what about pet peeves? Man, I could fill that up all by myself!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 17, 1998 (23:46)", "body": "Sure, where should we start it?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "other suggestions?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (10:12)", "body": "Terry, we want an Animal conference!!!!!!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (11:52)", "body": "Are you going to host it?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (14:04)", "body": "I think the girls already discussed this in Screwed."}, {"response": 29, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (14:09)", "body": "YES! FURRY-CONF NOW! Please????"}, {"response": 30, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (17:15)", "body": "So, who else was in there? Wolf was hopping about, Isabel had the idea first, or was it Riette? Terry, look here: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/screwed/4.81 , you may want to read the prelude in a calm moment, too,... And I would like to see it called AnimalKingdom. FurryConf ain't bad, but it's specietistic - discriminates against feathered, naked and scaled neighbours! And we don't want none of that here! No speciecism on the Spring!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (17:15)", "body": ";=}"}, {"response": 32, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (17:34)", "body": "and i will be more than happy to host (if y'all want me too)"}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "It was your suggestion; it is your figurative conference...I should think it would be yours to refuse! Go for it and we will purr all over it *smile*"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (21:01)", "body": "OK I'll create 'animal' with wolf and ree ree as co hosts, ok?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (21:05)", "body": "oh thank you thank you thank you, *wagging tail furiously and knocking things over*"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (21:15)", "body": "Should I add any other cohosts? Should I name it animal (singular) or animals (plural)."}, {"response": 37, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (21:18)", "body": "i think it should be called the menagerie (or however that's spelled)--maybe just call it the zoo. because we'd need to include spiders and stuff in the topics."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (21:22)", "body": "OK I like zoo. Just widdle ree ree and big bad wuffie as coshosts?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (03:39)", "body": "I'd be happy to be co-host, Terry, but I nominate Isab\ufffdl as co-host - didn't she come up with the idea first? What do you all think?"}, {"response": 40, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (08:54)", "body": "I don't really know what it would mean to be a co-host and if I got the ability that's needed... I'm not very much into html-stuff, all I can do i writing bold and maybe italics and I never know if it really works, unless I see it posted... But I would love to help (somehow)!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (08:55)", "body": "Hey it worked! Look!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (09:07)", "body": "You can do italics???? \ufffdbowing head in huble admiration\ufffd Believe me, Isabel, you cannot possibly be worse with computers than me and Autumn (\ufffdgrin\ufffd) - and I'm a host too!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (09:13)", "body": "The same like bold, just put an i into the <> instead of a b!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (10:05)", "body": "OK so wolf, ree and isabel are co-hosts of zoo? OK?"}, {"response": 45, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (10:22)", "body": "Go for it, Terry! Mao says he can't wait any longer to be first cat on \"the zoo\"!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "Boohoo, and I wanted AnimalKin.... Never mind! Wanna see Riette's cuddlies! And all the other's, too!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (13:09)", "body": "Only, doesn't Zoo do the wild folks injustice? No speciecism!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (14:31)", "body": "3 Co-hosts???? ha-ha, Okay! OH! I nearly forgot that we need a cool name for it... hmm... Ventura's Ark?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (15:26)", "body": "Too long. And one word to many."}, {"response": 50, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (05:20)", "body": "Zoo, like wolfie said? Zoo is GOOD, isn't it?"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (08:41)", "body": "zoo good. me like zoo. tarzan like jane."}, {"response": 52, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (10:17)", "body": "paul like tofu..."}, {"response": 53, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (14:02)", "body": "ha-ha!!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (14:04)", "body": "If Paul is like tofu, and Tarzan (the old cross-dresser!) like Jane, then what is Stacey like? I like AnimalKingdom! Anti-Speciecists of the World, unite!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (14:05)", "body": "Uh, and Zoo like Screwed, you know?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (19:04)", "body": "just get the conference going, wouldja? (i like menagerie best)"}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (19:56)", "body": "OK, zoo, going once . . ."}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (20:04)", "body": "Zoo is ok but like Alexander said, it sounds like they are incarcerated. I like AnimalKingdom - or just Animals - that could include some dates I have had...!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (20:06)", "body": "Ark?"}, {"response": 60, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (21:28)", "body": "yeah, springark!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (21:55)", "body": "Love it SpringArk !!! do it Terry!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (00:17)", "body": "zoo or ark?"}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (00:31)", "body": "ARK as in saving the animals, not incarcerating them...no?"}, {"response": 64, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (00:43)", "body": "Ark, going once."}, {"response": 65, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (05:07)", "body": "Ark. We won't let them drown."}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (10:08)", "body": "Going twice."}, {"response": 67, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (10:08)", "body": "morning Paul! going three times! I like it!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (10:19)", "body": "Gone! ark it is then!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (10:29)", "body": "Either riette, wolf, isabel or stacey (the hosting team) has to join and create a topic for it to be active. No one else can go there till one of these folks does that. Go to the ark, in pairs, please and one of these hostesses will check you in."}, {"response": 70, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (12:26)", "body": "SpringArk is up and running now at http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/SpringArk/all"}, {"response": 71, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (12:35)", "body": "Thank you, sir!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (12:36)", "body": "Are you, Marcia, supposed to be on the host team as well?"}, {"response": 73, "author": "Elena", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (12:52)", "body": "OK....it\ufffds great to create new topics but have you ever noticed that compared to the number of conferences and topics in the Spring, there is only a very small group of people taking part in the discussions actively and regularly (outside drool). New people are rare or at least they don\ufffdt stay for very long. Why is that, anybody figure? Seems to me that there is something wrong with the inside culture of this place (again, I\ufffdm not talking about drool). New people are not actually welcome in the other topics and every now and then they\ufffdre practically chased away in a subtle or a less subtle way. Topics end up with the familiar small group of regulars having fun together and having actually not much to say."}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (13:16)", "body": "My services were requested when it was apparent that Isabel needed help and wolf and ree were busy ladies. My conference does not need extensive time anymore so I will be happy to help as much or as little as is needed. Please enter me as host, as well. Thnak you! Elena come back to Geo - you promised us pictures of your back yard and its denizens! Beetles in particular...!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (13:36)", "body": "Elena, Spring is like any place you go in the real world. If you are friendly and interested in what is going on in a topic and post that way, you will be welcomed just as in Drool. I have found no exclusionary tactics here. And, I was a Droolian to begin with, just as you were. Many topics need rejuvination. I have also done that...and when you do, others will appear and have a conversation with you. Please try again. John is a new guy here who is quite at home now. You just need to befriend the pe ple here and they will reciprocate."}, {"response": 76, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (13:56)", "body": "Yep, the only 'internal culture' going on in this part of the Spring is a lack of pedestals."}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (14:11)", "body": "Amen, Ree! Long may it remain just that way."}, {"response": 78, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (14:23)", "body": "We welcome any newcomers with open arms! Please invite all your firends online and offline to join us!"}, {"response": 79, "author": "Elena", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (14:49)", "body": "Of course one can always diminish a problem or an argument by personalizing it but surprise, I wasn\ufffdt talking about myself only, I was talking about the hermetic Spring culture in general. I think this is a thing to discuss but self-criticism isn\ufffdt fun of course, however fruitful and even fun it could be."}, {"response": 80, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:20)", "body": "I'm a newy! And I never felt the Spring being hermetic in the two weeks I'm here. (Two weeks? ...seems much longer to me) I never felt offended or not welcome at all ( Maybe it was so subtle, I didn't notice). Ok, they're a nosy bunch sometimes (*grin*), but nobody ever was unfriendly or even offending. Some might have been a bit, let's say - cautious? at first, but I can be, too (I never talk to strangers, mommy told me so). There may have been some misunderstandings, too, but that was partly caused by me - wasn't I cheeky when I entered the Spring? (hihi!) (...and me not giving a real email-adress might have caused misunderstandings, too. Just didn't know I should've done it. Found out later, that I was - nearly - the only one who'd done that) And I had problems with some reactions to my posts first, but so what? You can't expect people to react like you want them to! [I'm still pouty, that NOBODY cared what happened to me in screwed after the brain-suckers from outa space got hold of me ;-( Why do I keep coming back? Maybe it isn't me any longer? Maybe I got brainwashed? What have ya done into this psychedelic screwed-backdrop, Terry?] And I haven't made the experience that I can't take part - See I just jumped in! BTW, some thought me coming from drool and so I looked it up. I can't say if people there are friendly or not (I assume they are!), because I didn't join. Drool seemed very hermetic and cryptic to me. I'll never find out what you girls are talking about, sorry! I don't mean this as an affront, but I REALLY just can't understand all the acronyms there and what keeps you talking about - ooh - filmstars? ( Would take me a whole lifetime, to get into this) I can't tell why the community is so small ( In my stadium as a lurker, I got the impression that it's much bigger, don't know why), why people aren't coming back or if somebody was chased away, and if it were so, I can't tell what to change. Can you? But what have I to say? Nothing that really matters, I like talking rubbish! If it gets serious, in philosophy e.g., I keep away - My heads to small for thinking! ( I fear I could loose some of the bullshit in it) Please forgive me! ;-)"}, {"response": 81, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:41)", "body": "We're all getting to know each other and we're growing. I don't like it when people we love drop away. If our chemistry keeps happening, other people will sense it and want to be a part of what we have going. It's fun here, there are a lot of communities on the net that are rougher and tougher and where the level of discourse isn't near what we have here."}, {"response": 82, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (21:55)", "body": "Isabel, you know you are one of us. (some day I might tell you just what you happened to stumble into, but not right now...)It is, as Terry points out, a colder and crueller world out there. In here I am home and warm and fuzzy, even when we disagree. We are never intentionally cruel, and when you happen on us on a bad day (I am talking like Queen Victoria with the \"us\" and \"we\"!), we spend a week trying to make amends for any hurt we have caused. *Hugs!* We genuinely care about each other on the Spri g...at least, I know I do!"}, {"response": 83, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:05)", "body": "Oh, and I spent over 2 years in Drool before I ever ventured out. Now I free float back and forth. It is most assuredly different in there, but not one whit less nurturing than elsewhere, and perhaps more protective than any other place on Spring. I am truly sorry about your brain suction from space monsters, and for giving you grief if I did so!"}, {"response": 84, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:15)", "body": "Nothing to be sorry about! No offense taken! Everything's fine! :-) Don't worry your little head to much! ( I won't anyway!)"}, {"response": 85, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:16)", "body": "Nothing to be sorry about! No offense taken! Everything's fine! :-) Don't worry your little head too much! ( I won't anyway!)"}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:18)", "body": "Ya mean it's ok to go back to the kitties and fishies and stuff like that?! OKAY! ...race ya!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:20)", "body": "Oops! Why do I always say things twice? Ok, it's 4:30 in the morning (!) Have to get some sleep! Good night.(Oh, Ok, wanted to make the second o on too, that's why this happened!)Gawd, hafta go sleepin' look at da watch!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:22)", "body": "you got your brains sucked out? (see, i don't venture into screwed too much)...maybe that's a topic to be discussed in paraspring! aliens and all *grin*"}, {"response": 89, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:23)", "body": "Sorry hafta race to bed. Tomorrow's another day for playing and having fun with ya kids. ( You know Calvin and Hobbes \"The days are just packed!\" - love them!) Good night, John Boy!"}, {"response": 90, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:25)", "body": "night mary ellen..."}, {"response": 91, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:26)", "body": "Why are you always quicker than me are? Yeah, let's relive paraspring, that's agood plan for tomorrow! But I REALLY have to go sleepin' now, ot else I won't have time to play with you tomorrow. I just quit now, Ok? GOOD NIGHT!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "What's that plays name? \"You'll never get out of this topic alive\"? *grin* Night Wolfie, night Marcia! I will REALLY go sleepin now....................................."}, {"response": 93, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:32)", "body": "me too (but it's 9:30 PM here)"}, {"response": 94, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:34)", "body": "G'night - it is still afternoon here...!"}, {"response": 95, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:37)", "body": "you don't sleep do ya?"}, {"response": 96, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:40)", "body": "I do - but it is only 4:40pm here (Thursday) and I will go to sleep about 10pm. The PC goes off at about 8pm and on at 7am (or earlier) tomorrow...so I do sleep! You are out playing while we are still waiting for the sun to get to us."}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (22:42)", "body": "I AM concerned about Isabel being up till 4:30am, though! She must not sleep at all!"}, {"response": 98, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (03:58)", "body": "Elena, does Drool not consider itself a part of the Spring? Marcia, perhaps Isabel is being .... uhm ... abused by the brain-fuckers from outta space! Ya know ... SAXUALLY! Ha-ha! Isabel, I'm glad you feel at home here; you're a cool one. And we Europeans will outnumber these Yanks yet!!"}, {"response": 99, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (06:15)", "body": "Hehe, now, ain't that true? And then we'll mouth off, and never get visa again :=/ Anyhow, Riette, you're right, could be a trend here - I got a Nachbar, a neighboer, a neighbrit, a neighportuguese and a neighfinn! I must be a rich man! Talking about neighfinn - Elena, what do you think about this? I mean, they all sound so happy up there, but yet, something resonated in me from what you wrote... Hmh."}, {"response": 100, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (07:43)", "body": "Rise and shine! It's 13:30 and I just got up. So you see I do sleep!. I cam eback from a concert at 2 or 3 o'clock last night, and I was sooo nosy about the Ark that I had to look up all the new topics, before I went to sleep. But I got that problem, that I can hardly sleep at nights, but can't get up early in the morning..."}, {"response": 101, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (07:54)", "body": "Alexander - We won't get a visa if we would, let's say - purely theoretically spoken ( I would never do something like this!) - make little funny jokes about - uhm - THE IMPERIALISTS! They wont let us board their beautiful country, REALLY?"}, {"response": 102, "author": "Elena", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (13:28)", "body": "Riette, I don\ufffdt know why you\ufffdre asking! Isabel, I liked to read about your newbie experiences....yes, Drool can look cryptic for those who don\ufffdt know all the names of the movies of *someone* by heart, like MLSF etc. It can be very off-putting, I know. But I don\ufffdt think Drool is hermetic, people there really sincerely wish newbies to join in and we also show it openly when it happens. I wouldn\ufffdt like any sort of cliques to spoil Drool and if there are some, at least they\ufffdre wise enough not to manifest themselves too much. Well, I think there was a minor crisis last March when a part of the Drooleurs met in London and others could only read about it! But Drool survived..... The more regulars we have, the more information and opinions, that\ufffds the only way it can work. Ignoring somebody and talking only to the members of your own club is what makes new people leave and I think that many of the Drool people are aware of this."}, {"response": 103, "author": "Elena", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (13:53)", "body": "Hmh.....Alexander, what\ufffds that resonating Something?? (D\ufffdyou ever feel like an alien.....:-)"}, {"response": 104, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (21:50)", "body": "D'ya ever feel like an alien? The first time we went to Britain, it was the oddest notion to this American that I had become an alien AND an immigrant at the same time. Very unsettling! We are the losers for making European countried obtain Visas...do not understand why in the least...other good and friendly places, as well."}, {"response": 105, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (14:23)", "body": "I'm frustrated. I loaded all posts since whenever and logged off the net, because we have these extremely expensive phone costs here (upside: WE have ISDN...), so I wrote sumpdin' really pretty and nice for Elena and Riette and everybody, tried to dial up and submit, and BANG! lost all to some http error 404-crap. Bah! Go to a party now, try again tomorrow (when I come to again...). Cheerio, dear people!"}, {"response": 106, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (14:42)", "body": "Party Hearty, Alexander, and put your supply of aspirin by the computer...just in case!"}, {"response": 107, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (22:32)", "body": "Ooops, next time save your eloquent post to the clipboard or to a text file at least!"}, {"response": 108, "author": "amy", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (09:32)", "body": "Terry, I've been having hosting trouble with my PhinisheD community (bb for stalled dissertation writers), and was wondering if you'd take it in, at least for a while. I'm moving back to Chicago, and just don't have time to go shopping for a new virtual hosting outfit. The board is broken right now (can't read messages) but you can get the flavor by looking at the index page: http://crossmyt.com/~amyloo/cgi-bin/phinished/phin.cgi This feels like deja-vu all over again. The conference probably should be named phinished Amy"}, {"response": 109, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (10:26)", "body": "Sure, phinished can have a home here. We'll create a conference if you supply us with a description, introduction, and, most important, list of hosts. We'll roll out the welcome wagon."}, {"response": 110, "author": "amy", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (10:47)", "body": "Thanks so much, Terry. Description: A discussion and support group for people who cannot seem to finish their dissertations or theses. Intro: This discussion and support group is for you if: - You are sick to death of people asking you \"How is your dissertation [or thesis] coming?\" (but you really would like to talk about your troubles in finishing -- with anybody except those who keep asking, no matter how genuinely concerned they may be, or may seem to be). - You have vague fears about finishing, but don't feel you have a safe outlet for discussing whatever it is you seem to be afraid of. - You're having organizational problems or blocks. - You are not getting the kind of support you need -- from your university, your employer, your family members or friends. Maybe you don't even know what kind of support you need, just that you don't have it! Face-to-face support groups offered by your university don't suit you, for whatever reason - You've been in this stagnant state of incompletion, and want to help those still plugging, or flailing. And it might be for you if: - You are an undergrad thesis writer, novel writer, or other type of writer staring down a mountain to climb that seems to touch the moon. If you can cull something from the discussion here, good, but the board's focus will hover tightly around graduate students, who seem to possess some singular needs and fears. - You are a family member or SO who wants to try to understand the pressures. Hosts would be me, Amy (I'm lowercase amy here, amyloo@bluemarble.net), Rochelle (t_rwilli@bellsouth.net), and Tom (ab9619@wayne.edu)."}, {"response": 111, "author": "amy", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (11:35)", "body": "OK. Have pointed the poor lost souls to the anticipated URL. http://crossmyt.com/~amyloo/cgi-bin/phinished/phin.cgi"}, {"response": 112, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (17:55)", "body": "It is up and running, Amy..."}, {"response": 113, "author": "amy", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (18:14)", "body": "You guys are great. Thanks so, so much."}, {"response": 114, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (03:45)", "body": "You've got a new conference, Amy? Tell us more about it! Alexander, you wrote somethin' nice fer us? Awe! \ufffd:-O"}, {"response": 115, "author": "amy", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (09:12)", "body": "Riette, PhinisheD is a small but active group of graduate students who listen to each other's stories of academic backstabbing, make pacts with each other about work on their dissertations, and generally cheer each other on. No, I'm not one. Since getting my B.A. in 1974 I've done nothing along those lines, save writing for grad school catalogs maybe a dozen times. I set up the bulletin board two years ago to help Henry (Terry you remember The Mysterious H.C.). He never did take to the group much, but did finally earn his PhD last year, and it's really helped a lot of other people. They're a very warm-hearted bunch, and I guess if you were desirous of their branching out into other areas of the Spring, you might want to ask their advice about topics that come up in other conferences to draw them in -- use them as experts. Who doesn't like to say what they know? They come from just about any field you can imagine. I think my bios database is still working. That script doesn't seem to have bogged down the server of my cut-rate little ISP as the webbbs script seemed to. \" http://crossmyt.com/~amyloo/cgi-bin/prophiles/db.cgi?uid=default&view_records=1&ID= *"}, {"response": 116, "author": "amy", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (09:14)", "body": "Yapp didn't see fit to include the asterisk at the end of that URL. If you put it in manually, you should be able to see all the database entries."}, {"response": 117, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (10:59)", "body": "Thanks to the pervasive conf admin!"}, {"response": 118, "author": "amy", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (11:54)", "body": "Tom and Rochelle were either unable or just didn't register as just plain Tom and Rochelle, but as TomJ and RochelleW, and so they aren't getting the host privileges. Wer, could you change them in the config file? I don't seem able to; I guess I'm not in the cfadm group anymore."}, {"response": 119, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (13:50)", "body": "Thanks, Amy! Do you think they'd branch out into the rest of the Spring if we asked them to? It would be great to get more people over here, and they sound like an interesting bunch."}, {"response": 120, "author": "amy", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (21:08)", "body": "They are interesting, every last one of them. I think in time they might spread out if encouraged in a light way. Alexander's invite to Rochelle was nice. He asked her to drop by Geo; she's in earth science. I think it's like going into a new family, like when you go visit an SO's family for the first time and don't quite get the family humor and stuff? I have to say I felt a little invaded by mrchips coming into the Celebration Hall topic. It's a special thing when somebody passes their defense or comps, we always post congratulations and it's very inspiring to all the others still toiling and worrying. I guess I felt a little violated, not in any enormous sense, but just kind of put off that the topic was j ked about? I guess in time we'll all get used to the little one-liners and harmless banter. I'm probably being too -- too."}, {"response": 121, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (21:24)", "body": "Thank you Alexander!! I was about to give free samples to the first ones through the door - just to get people to peek into Geo - including John, the elusive. He peeked and fled. It is not that bad or that boring...! Amy, Your conference looks wonderful - congratulations!"}, {"response": 122, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:00)", "body": "And the usernames have been corrected as hosts for the conf, Amy."}, {"response": 123, "author": "amy", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:14)", "body": "Thanx, wer!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (02:12)", "body": "I had a look at your conference as well - it's good. I can see how it is different from the stuff we go on about in here. Studying is fun, but hard as well - I think it's a great place for keeping people's spirit up."}, {"response": 125, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2006 (00:03)", "body": "Good words from '99 from Riette Walton. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 40, "subject": "greatnames.com ... help the Spring brainstorm webbed type names", "response_count": 104, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (07:38)", "body": "Here are some of the names owned or managed by the Spring: janhooks.com texasequityloan.com adultstory.com golftravel.net childrenstory.com mfeedback.com austinspring.com virtualharem.com onward.org wonderbee.com fattymoon.com webzine.net realtybabes.com walhus.com kidsatplay.net envirocom.net helenhuth.com winfieldray.com love30.com brucesterling.com gennifer.com mindfolk.com spring.net diveship.com udsi.net minds.org cybersubdivision.com filmlocations.net clearminds.com roxburylounge.com newsbabes.net movielocations.net divecruise.com webarter.net boat.org cooltoys.net e-retailer.net searchwarrant.com repeater.org locationmanager.com tvpc.com teachai.com roxburyguys.com Just to give you a starting point."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (10:12)", "body": "Any ideas yet?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (10:34)", "body": "stanky.net cranky.net redneck.net dotcom.com"}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (14:15)", "body": "LOVE dotcom.com!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (15:48)", "body": "Registrant: Mann Consulting (DOTCOM-DOM) 2410 California #200 San Francisco, CA 94115 Domain Name: DOTCOM.COM Administrative Contact: Mann, Harold R. (HRM) hmann@MANN.COM (415) 546-6266 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hauser, Michael (MH5) hauser@NAMECRAFT.COM (510) 528-9040 Record last updated on 21-Jun-94. Record created on 21-Jun-94. Database last updated on 22-Jul-98 04:16:55 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: WOODWIND.COM 140.174.231.130 CRL.COM 165.113.1.12 Taken!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (18:51)", "body": "figures...is dotnet.net, also? or 4dummies.net then you could have aol.4dummies.net thespring.4dummies.net sex.4dummies.net etcetera..."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (20:58)", "body": "Both taken. To find out do a !whois dotnet.net at the shell prompt or check on the www.internic.net website. Keep the name ideas coming!!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (23:11)", "body": "I'm at home, so I can't telnet... didn't know you could check on the web... hehe..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (10:25)", "body": "Yep, it will be under whois on the internic website. Anyone got any insanelygreat.com web names? howaboutit.com?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (19:45)", "body": "why can't you telnet from home?!?!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (19:46)", "body": "I mean... if I can do it..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (00:06)", "body": "AOL..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (03:54)", "body": "Aching Out Loud"}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (03:54)", "body": "oh. (no ability to telnet through the RUN command?)"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (03:54)", "body": "not yet...need a second internet hookup from home, which may or may not coexist peacefully with AOL... but, hey, I got you on from home... (most telnet programs don't work with AOL's tcp/ip stack...)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (14:06)", "body": "Absolutely Outta Luck"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (16:54)", "body": "pretty much sums it up, yes..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (18:24)", "body": "altavista.com just sold for $3 million to Compaq."}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (18:46)", "body": "oh, my..... at my current rate of pay, I'll make that in 120 years..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 4, 1998 (22:44)", "body": "Here are the two I thought up and registered Sunday: silkcloth.com silkclothing.com What do you think? I have a friend in the silk clothing business. Other ideas?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (15:28)", "body": "And I thought it was all about your fetishes. How dissappointing. hayroller.com silkyhay.com rollin'hay.com rollin'terry.com silkyterrybabe.com hiterry.com wonderingwhilerollinginthehay.com howyou'vebeen.com"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (18:29)", "body": "hay, not bad. roller another one."}, {"response": 23, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (02:17)", "body": "That says it all."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (12:25)", "body": "What about austinticity.com"}, {"response": 25, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (17:29)", "body": "That sounds a tit like the six million dollar man's birth place or something!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (17:32)", "body": "HA-HA!!!! Sorry about the tit that should be bit - seem to be having my boobies tied around my fingers today!! Like the woman who could not say an R, and explained that her tongue got tied around her R's. Get it?!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (17:59)", "body": "no, but it is all pretty damn funny anyway... (you seem in a GREAT mood Riette!)"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (18:21)", "body": "Could we get a visual on that, Riette?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (02:01)", "body": "R's like in arse - British English, get the double meaning now, Stace? And, yes, I'm in a great mood!!!!! Heeeeeeee-haaaaaawwwwwww! Which one, Terry? The first or the second? For the second I might have to become a contortionist or something first, because as I look at it now my backside seems lower down than I always thought it was."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (10:10)", "body": "Both."}, {"response": 31, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (14:17)", "body": "Hmmm . . . awe twying vewy vewy hawd - tongue bit wathew wifficult . . . aauch . . . thank Gawd I just had a showew . . . onwy awle to type wif one fingew now that my woowies awe tied wound 'em . . . no, $wit! Too damwed uncomfowtawle . . . ugh ugh ugh . . . ooh!! \ufffdPOP!SPIT!ZING!\ufffd That's much better now. See Terry? I managed it!! But for a second there I really hought I had my tongue stuck where it was, and got overwhelmed in visions of brown. That was scary. And I didn't know what to do with my feet, so I used them to hold my head in the right place . . . I think you'll be glad to hear I shall not apply this as a hay rolling position ever."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (01:31)", "body": "I'm just trying to visualize all this (rotfl)."}, {"response": 33, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (02:16)", "body": "I was going to say, now it's your turn to have a go, but you don't have boobies! Wonder what else you could get tied round your finger. Will have to think about that one . .. ."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (09:30)", "body": "I almost lost thespring.com but I reregistered it today. So pretty soon you can type thespring into your browser without the dot ending and the http garbage. Also registered gospring.com along with thespring.com Keep those creative ideas for names coming?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Dec 8, 1998 (20:46)", "body": "terry how much would it cost me for you to get me ratthing.com and host it on your servers? i also own l-comm.com, and was thinking of parking it on your servers as well. what are the initial costs and the monthly/recurring costs?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 8, 1998 (21:13)", "body": "got a question: if i wanted to have my own domain, say, uh, midnightwolf.com, what would the purpose for it be? i mean, how big is a domain, would it be all mine? would i have to work real hard at it? besides the initial cost of owning the name, what else would it cost me?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Dec 8, 1998 (21:35)", "body": "wolfie, when you have a domain name, it is essentially a single site on the internet that you can do with as you please. you can host a web site on it, you can put files on it for people to download, you can host conferences on it, you can host whatever you want on it. the only limitations are 1) the abilities of the server machine on which you are hosting your site, 2) the amount of time and money you have to work on the site. i want to have a site to do all sorts of things. right now i have a web site at www.l-comm.com but i no longer own a company called L Comm, so i would just like to start ratthing.com for my own personal use."}, {"response": 38, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (09:00)", "body": "well, i did look for midnightwolf.com and it is free. what about ratthing.com? and what kind of server would i need? i mean, could i do this from my personal computer at home? and would the thing need to be on all the time? (i'm utterly clueless)!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (09:34)", "body": "!whois ratthing.com No match for \"RATTHING.COM\"."}, {"response": 40, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (09:52)", "body": "technically, you would be able to run your server off of any machine connected to the internet. ideally, you want a machine connected to the net 24/7 and on all the time."}, {"response": 41, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (09:54)", "body": "terry, my church has a website at www.sanfernandocathedral.org. we are thinking of moving it somewhere else that is cheaper. we are currently having it hosted by corporate web (www.corporate-web.com) what would you charge?"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (10:23)", "body": "For a church, $15 per month plus whatever Jeff or Tami's set up fee is to put it on the server, if you put it on the server it's free for the setup. Church's get 50% off our regular $30 / month dedicated website fee."}, {"response": 43, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (10:33)", "body": "i have a meeting with the Rector of the cathedral on sunday. i will let you know! meantime, what do you charge to snarf up ratthing.com and place it on your servers?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (11:03)", "body": "Same thing. YOu'd have to pay the nic $70 for two years, provide and organization name and contact, and pay a small set up fee. IN your case, it would be free, a tradeoff for your copious assistance and ideas. You could do the setup if you felt up to it. I believe the directions are in the projects conference, which is the place where we organize various websites and jobs. Jeff Kramer set up a webserver on access.spring.net for all our new sites. Do you have an account there, Ray?"}, {"response": 45, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (12:20)", "body": "i dont think so, but i will check. thanks, terry."}, {"response": 46, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (16:01)", "body": "terry, i dont have access to access.spring.net. i just need to know hostnames and netaddresses for InterNIC. i can do the rest myself (i think!)."}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (16:11)", "body": "go to http://www.internic.net and search for spring.net, Ray, it'll give you the info you need to register other sites, I think..."}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (16:11)", "body": "I'll set you up with a ratthing account on access."}, {"response": 49, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (16:24)", "body": "wer, thanks. took care of it all on internic! thanks, terry."}, {"response": 50, "author": "wer", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:16)", "body": "Terry, did we ever figure out if I have an account on access? And if I do, what's my login name?"}, {"response": 51, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:58)", "body": "wer, i just looked in /etc/passwd on access and you are not listed."}, {"response": 52, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:11)", "body": "that does explain why none of my log-ins work over there..."}, {"response": 53, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:27)", "body": "if terry sez ok i will add you immediately."}, {"response": 54, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:36)", "body": "can't do anything with it right now, I was just wondering... wouldn't have a spare Pentium that you need to store in Austin do you, Ray?"}, {"response": 55, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:40)", "body": "haha. yeah, lemme pull it outta my back pocket!! i wish i understood all this computer mumbo jumbo."}, {"response": 56, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:40)", "body": "if i did i'd send it right up!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:58)", "body": "yeah, well, at least I asked... hopefully one will be purchased for our house sometime before March... (of 1999, that is!)"}, {"response": 58, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (21:00)", "body": "oooo, could we possibly have a clue as to what santa is bringing to the wer household? hmmmmm?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (21:03)", "body": "not THAT soon, unfortunately..."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (10:50)", "body": "If you had to rename the spring something other than spring.net what would it be? I've thought about springfolks.com It would be nice to be a dot com instead of a dot net, of course we can be as many names as we want all pointing to the same site. Suggestions? (it can't be an already registered name)."}, {"response": 61, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (13:42)", "body": "I like .net, because it doesn't sound so corporate. I mean, yeah, you own this, and there are costs and cash flows, so there IS a biz side, but the name should rather propagate the web-culture the Spring is. This is our \"Home on the Net\", where the browers graze, etc. P.S.: I'm not sure a topic like \"A wants Spring.net\" should be exclusiveky discussed in Inner. Thanks for dragging this out here into the sun shine. We non-Inners see it, and when we know something is going on, but can't put the finger on it, it might upset the populace."}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (15:17)", "body": "No, it would not be upsetting. But I can't go in to details yet. .com names have the advantage that you type one word in the browser window without the http://www . and the .com. That's one big reason why I'd like to have a .com or several .com names for this community. Ideas? Suggestions on names?"}, {"response": 63, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (15:51)", "body": "\"No, it would not be upsetting. But I can't go in to details yet.\" - I appreciate that, as this is wheelin'-dealin' biz, and it asks for mucho discretion. I understand this. Many golden geese fly away when people discuss how to cut it up before getting their hands on one... Still, seeing people post in a topic with the mentioned name, but general public being in the dark... Well, got me thinking what you were up to - nothing untoward, I'm sure, it's just the suspense and thrill..."}, {"response": 64, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (23:36)", "body": "Hang tight. It's nothing to worry about! But I can't talk about it yet."}, {"response": 65, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (23:55)", "body": "These names are not registered yet: spring-world.com my-spring.com springchat.com thoughtspring.com talkspring.com mouthspring.com spring-web.com (However, springchicken.com IS already registered.)"}, {"response": 66, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (15:03)", "body": "These names are not registered yet, either: spring-o-rama.com springviews.com mondospring.com"}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (15:50)", "body": "mondospring is a really classy name. Summons up all sorts of images...!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (22:33)", "body": "And infospryte.com is still available."}, {"response": 69, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "MondoSpring sounds like a weird 70s b-movie title to me... TheSpring.whatever ?"}, {"response": 70, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (16:36)", "body": "Terry, I really like infospryte.com I think it could be important in the future if we do not want to keep it - all sorts of web sites are offering information - this would be a natural for it!"}, {"response": 71, "author": "amy", "date": "Sun, Sep 26, 1999 (16:56)", "body": "Wow. It is getting really hard to find the dotcoms anymore. I do whoises for fun every few months, but since the last time, it seems like hardly any I think of are still available. However, I think these might possibly be valuable soon, especially since in the next year they say 40% of all small businesses will have a web presence, so the e-commerce-type names will be hot. loveyourdress.com loveyourtie.com Did not continue checking in this vein."}, {"response": 72, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (03:53)", "body": "You mean there isn't a loveyourtits.com left?"}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (11:02)", "body": "loveyourtits is still available. Should I grab them, er, it?"}, {"response": 74, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (13:51)", "body": "Ha-ha!!! I KNEW it would still be available! Yep, this is the one time you get to grab them before fondling!!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (15:30)", "body": "OK I'll be nice to the three of you."}, {"response": 76, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (18:12)", "body": ";=}"}, {"response": 77, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (18:14)", "body": "Terry, what about Spring + the new domain dot whatevers? .arts .firm ..."}, {"response": 78, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (18:24)", "body": "hey ya! how come we don't just create a whole new dot category for ourselves!?!?! (and how do we do that??)"}, {"response": 79, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (18:28)", "body": "Talk the folks at Internic into it ( www.internic.com or .org??? ). Or, in other words, fugeddahaboudit! Big international orgs convene, and agree on stuff like that."}, {"response": 80, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:06)", "body": "BTW, springsite.com is not registered, either."}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "I would check on springnet.com and springcom.net if I knew where to check..."}, {"response": 82, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:13)", "body": "http://www.networksolutions.com/ or do a whois check from telnet..."}, {"response": 83, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:19)", "body": "Thank you, kindly!"}, {"response": 84, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:28)", "body": "Neither are registered: springcom.net springcom.net"}, {"response": 85, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (23:29)", "body": "pardon...being distracted momentarily. Neither springcom.net nor springnet.com are registered..."}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (00:04)", "body": "(...and stop thinking those evil thoughts about the posters who just cannot get it right the first time...and stop laughing, too!)"}, {"response": 87, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (04:41)", "body": "\ufffdsuppressing a snigger with both hands\ufffd"}, {"response": 88, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (08:32)", "body": "Don't worry Marcia! I never get it right the first time! :-D"}, {"response": 89, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (10:55)", "body": "Thanks, both those names have applied for. My friend Pat McGuire jost sold his name, wirelessvideo.com, for $120,000. Not a bad day's work for someone who's been trying to bootstrap a little business for years."}, {"response": 90, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (14:08)", "body": "$hit, you're right there! How much would a pair of kids get me?"}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (17:11)", "body": "With kids, you gotta wait till they ripen and fall off the vine - like fine vintage grapes. Then you get to enjoy the fruits of your labor...if you are very lucky. I do like InfoSpryte.com . It has magic about it. Beats Jeeves.com anyday!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "Yep, InfoSpryte.com is cool. Yesterday I was seriously considering selling the kids or donating them for Stacey's run. It was a cop day. I felt like a cop all day. But today was great, so today I'll keep them."}, {"response": 93, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (14:39)", "body": "Terry, apply for InfoSpryte.com, please...or the guy who was using it...! It is too choice to let the riff raff in the outer cyber space get ahold of it...!"}, {"response": 94, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (14:44)", "body": "It has been applied for, and, speaking of names I just got a bill for firth.com and I also went out and spent $125 on a 9 gb. hard drive so I'll have to fire up the pledge drive. I bet I could raise $35 from the firthians and maybe some more for the hard drive. I just made the quarterly $1287 payment to ddc.net for our server colocation so that's not an issue for another 2 months."}, {"response": 95, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (15:15)", "body": "cops-and-donuts.com as well as copsanddonuts.com are not registered neither are foodspryte.com sexpspryte.com wordspryte.com sexhurt.com"}, {"response": 96, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (15:25)", "body": "sexhurt???!!! It should not hurt!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (15:28)", "body": "Guess that means I put out a plea for funds now?! Will do so on Springfolks and other message boards of which I am a memeber and see what I can do for you."}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (23:39)", "body": "Thanks, I got a $35 bill for firth.com and bought that hard drive. I'm still waitng for the first Visto check, but it should be over $200."}, {"response": 99, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (00:09)", "body": "Please post the address again for me...so we will all know! and to whom to make the check payable..."}, {"response": 100, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (09:07)", "body": "Paul Terry Walhus The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek TX 78612 payable to either The Spring or Paul Terry Walhus"}, {"response": 101, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (11:40)", "body": "Suggestion/idea: Terry, take your celeb site names and put them up for auction at ebay. Go with a minimum bid somewhere between 70 and 200 dollars and take bids for thirty days. You probably won't get as much as you could with an active site, but you might be able to sell them for something that way, especially now that you have to pay for a site when you register it."}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "What do you think suzyamis would bring on ebay?"}, {"response": 103, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Oct 27, 1999 (10:15)", "body": "Terry: I'm sure you've been following this item, but I thought I'd post the latest from The Hollywood Reporter. IMVHO, this legislation wouldn't stand up if challenged in court. Who are they kidding? Total restraint of trade. Who are they going to go after next? Real estate developers (virtual real estate too)? puhleez! Or maybe I should legally change my name to IBM and then take them to court for exploiting MY name! ;-D Karen House evicting cybersquatters (Wed., Oct. 27, 1999) By Brooks Boliek WASHINGTON -- Hollywood's glitterati may be able to rest a little easier because Congress approved legislation Tuesday aimed at protecting the famous from cybersquatters who register Internet domain names simply to resell them or use them for unscrupulous purposes (HR 10/26). While the bill, approved in the House without dissent, was originally designed to protect companies with trademarks or servicemarks from cybersquatters, it was expanded to include celebrities after a concerted effort by Hollywood's creative community. Hollywood's luminaries wanted to be included in the bill because they found their names being hijacked by people who were seeking to make a quick buck or were using them to attract business to their sites. The Internet address www.BradPitt.com contains a blatant solicitation, www.SharonStone.com directs people to a porno site, and three men reportedly attempted to sell USA Networks chief Barry Diller his domain name for $10 million. Studios also have had trouble preventing people from registering domain n mes for their movies. \"Current law is opening the commerce-rich Internet to pirates, crippling legitimate businesses and fattening the wallets of cyber-frauds,\" said Rep. James Rogan, R-Calif., who co-sponsored the bill with Rep. Rick Boucher, D-Va. Rogan said it would shore up consumer confidence in legitimate brand names and discourage fraudulent electronic commerce. The studios, led by Disney, balked at including famous people's names in the legislation but relented under pressure from lawmakers. The studios feared that the measure would give Hollywood stars too much control over the registration of Internet domain names that they might want to use but agreed to language worked out among Rogan, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif. The bill approved by the House includes language expressly forbidding the registration of \"a famous personal name\" as a URL if the buyer has \"unfair\" intentions, such as selling it for profit, using it for pornography or misleading the public by falsely suggesting celebrity endorsement. It would be up to the courts to decide what constitutes a famous name. People who have the same name as a celebrity would not be in violation for registering their name. In August, the Senate approved a similar bill, but the Clinton administration opposed the legislation, saying courts have been friendly to the victims of cybersquatting and it would be better to allow courts to develop a body of case law in the area. The administration also expressed concern that the legislation could invite other countries to enact their own laws, leading to uncertainty and additional expense for trademark owners seeking to protect the value of their trademarks. The administration, howev r, has not threatened to veto the legislation. Creative community lobbyists argue that the bill is necessary. \"It would protect the integrity of individual names,\" said Margaret Cone, a lobbyist for a coalition of entertainment figures. \"Famous people's names cannot be hijacked for ransom or turned into porno sites.\" Studio execs applauded the House action. \"We congratulate the sponsor of this bill,\" MPAA chief Jack Valenti said. \"It's long overdue and we applaud its passage.\""}, {"response": 104, "author": "springnet", "date": "Tue, Feb 27, 2007 (11:35)", "body": "I'm going to be \"springnet\" on here starting now. OK? porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 41, "subject": "Spring Pledge Drive", "response_count": 237, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (14:34)", "body": "For the first time ever, the Spring is asking it's users to help out. You don't have to, but do it if you can. It costs $1299.00 a quarter to host the Spring servers on a T-1. Jeff Kramers charges us $250 a month for system admin work, and there is a $100 a month software fee from Armidale Software for our conferencing software. So what's that all come to? Well, if you toss in about $250 a month for misc expenses, which is probably very convservative, it's about $2600 a quarter or $1033 per month. The only income we get comes from website developement and our only website currently paying is childrenstory/tvpc which pays about $600 - $1000 per quarter, some of which goes to a web authoress. So, if you can, sen dyour contibution to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 You can do it anonymous or opening. Contributors will be sent some kind of memonto like a Spring mug, a hat, or something to express our gratitude. I'll link this into drool also."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (14:38)", "body": "Our T-1 fee is due 7/31/98, so that's why I'm starting this now. No contribution will be too small or insignificant."}, {"response": 3, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (16:59)", "body": "Terry, I shall be glad to contribute (tax deductible?...you are non-profit). However, I have no objection to adverts. Geocities pays a lot of the websites' real estate.If you polled the members, I doubt many would object;. and that would relieve the fund- raising."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (17:10)", "body": "We're not non-profit, yet. But I'll look in to this status. Obviously, we should qualify. And I'm open to adverts."}, {"response": 5, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (17:15)", "body": "Will do as soon as my painting money comes in, Terry."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (17:31)", "body": ""}, {"response": 7, "author": "heide", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (18:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (19:47)", "body": ""}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (22:36)", "body": "Thanks Heide, that address is correct."}, {"response": 10, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (23:05)", "body": ""}, {"response": 11, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (23:43)", "body": "I don't know, honey :-( I'm having the same problem with other topics...and the mark everything as read..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (23:51)", "body": "OH goodie! I'm not braindead, after all! *kiss*"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (06:39)", "body": "That sometimes happens when the system has a date glitch, like when the date changes to 2036 or something. I reset the date yesterday."}, {"response": 14, "author": "cherylq", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (08:54)", "body": "Will do."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (08:02)", "body": "From Jonathon Langley today, $486 for some web work I did for him on http://www.tvpc.com and http://www.childrenstory.com Does anyone have ideas for new children's stories or illustrations for existing, legendary children's story? What stories are we missing?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (08:09)", "body": "Pledge Address: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Checks made out to \"The Spring\""}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (10:06)", "body": "Thanks so much to Evelyn for here most generous contribution which arrived in yesterday's mail! Thank you so much Evelyn. It really helps."}, {"response": 18, "author": "lafn", "date": "Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (10:06)", "body": "Thank you so much Evelyn My pleasure, Terry. We have a great gang on Drool. (Even when we're fighting) :-) Led by our outstanding host, Nan!! Thanks , Doll!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (11:36)", "body": "total to date $150 We're a fourth of the way to our goal of raising $600 to make our fourth quarter internet access payment. Send to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 payable to Paul Terry Walhus or The Spring And thanks to Karen for the note and check received yesterday!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (20:55)", "body": ""}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (21:06)", "body": ""}, {"response": 22, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (11:39)", "body": "I haven't forgotten you either, Terry. Just still waiting for my money to come in, so I can send you a donation. Unfortunately my buyer has 3 months to pay, so just be patient."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (14:36)", "body": "No problem, and thanks! I have an idea on the domain name suggestions. If you make a suggestion, I'll co-register it in your name as the owner and if we sell it, the Spring will split the returns 50/50 with the person who is the name co-owner."}, {"response": 24, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (04:46)", "body": "Not acceptable - that's not fair. What would be fair is if you told us all how to register, and we share our returns 50/50 with the Spring. And the names that are registered by the Spring should only earn money for the Spring. If we register names, splitting it 50/50 would still earn us money that we would not have had otherwise, plus it would earn the Spring extra money on top of the money it earns from registering its own names. Taking money from the Spring is unfair, as the Spring is working at a l ss, and is unemployed(!!) - unlike those who log in every day. If us users can't however register extra names ourselves, then coming up with them is the least we can do - the Spring should not have to split money with US to induce us to help. Because then we're a greedy bunch of parasites who should not be here, but pimping off people within our reach."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (08:55)", "body": "Fair enough. I was just trying to provide incentive for folks to help dream up some domain names. And website ideas. artcafe.com is gone. So is sportscafe.com."}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (10:45)", "body": "It's enough incentive that we're allowed to be here in the first place. I think we would all like to keep the Spring going. And besides..... THE WALHUS IS OUR MASTER...WE HAVE BEEN CHOSEN"}, {"response": 27, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (14:19)", "body": "I AM THE WALHUS--KOOKOOAJOOB..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (16:41)", "body": "ha-ha!!!!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (07:11)", "body": "Can you charge to credit cards, terry? I was thinking of dumping my WELL account, which would mean that I could divert my $15 a month your direction. Let me know."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (09:24)", "body": ""}, {"response": 31, "author": "nan", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (11:52)", "body": ""}, {"response": 32, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (12:28)", "body": ""}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (12:34)", "body": "We'll set up a page for this as part of the Spring Store. We need to develop our commerce section so we can sell websites, local internet access and process contributions via credit card."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (12:36)", "body": "For now, the best way is to send a check made out to the Spring to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek TX 78612"}, {"response": 35, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (17:30)", "body": "Didja get it yet, Terry??"}, {"response": 36, "author": "Allison2", "date": "Sat, Sep 19, 1998 (06:24)", "body": ""}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (00:21)", "body": "Not yet. I wonder what happened?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (22:08)", "body": "(*sigh*) Guess I'll have to do some detective work..."}, {"response": 39, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (22:55)", "body": "I don't have a check account. How embarrassing. I'll wait till the credit card thing is set up, and send a monthly contribution like Mike."}, {"response": 40, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "Hehhee...my financial situation is rather more dire than i had thought. how would $10 a month do for the moment? :)) if you want to sort this out, terry, call me: 6pm-11pm GMT (austin is 6/7 hours behind?) +44 1273 727157"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (17:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 42, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (22:57)", "body": ""}, {"response": 43, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:14)", "body": ""}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (15:27)", "body": "Great, let's discuss it in depth in the projects conference. I posted some things there today."}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (02:51)", "body": "the spring needs your contributions to continue functioning. I'm at a critical point with this system as we approach our 10th anniversary. I have to work full time and manage rental houses and find myself without time to manage this system and lacking in funds to continue to subsidize it. I have to figure out a way to make this float on it's own between now and March, which is when I'll have to decide to continue or not. basically, it costs $400 per month for our bandwidth, it costs $150 per month for system admin work (jeffk), an unknown amount (but not insignificant) for hardware/software costs, $100 per month for Yapp licensing. Our only income is from contributions and a few websites (tvpc.com, childrenstory.com, lifespaces.com, and eatsolar.com) which bring in around $250 a month. to continue, we need: 1. administrative help with billing and sales 2. more websites to host 3. electronic commerce and database connectivity 4. hardware upgrades Property taxes are due and my rentals are down right now. There haven't been any contributions lately. And our population seems to be leveling off, not growing and expanding, even though our number of visitors is a a good level. I hope we can turn thing around. I, for one, would like to see it continue. But I can't go it alone much longer."}, {"response": 46, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (09:19)", "body": "terry, i'll send you some $$$. also, i would like to suggest that we consider abandoning Yapp for something cheaper. $100 a month? there are so many alternatives out there that are a lot cheaper than that, i think. what about jef poskanzer's acme news? another suggestion would be to move all of the spring servers to the Linux OS. it is cheaper to run and you would likely find a lot more folks who would be willing to help maintain it for free, and you would not lose the rock solid stability that comes with a Unix environment. just some suggestions!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (09:27)", "body": "Good suggestions. As far as os goes, we already have our operating system sin place and paid for, these aren't really costing us much. We just installed FreeBSD on access.spring.net and it's very minimal in cost. The Yapp license is paid for basically (it was about $1,000) and the $100 a month is if we go over a certain number of logins. It might be more costly to switch over to a new sosftware system, as yapp, despite a few warts, works pretty well for what we do. What we need, and what may be evolving at my houses in Austin and Cedar Creek is a little geek crew that can sell and produce websites and commerce sites. Tami has agreed to take over running the Spring, as far as doing billing and some sysadmin work, so this will help. I work about 12 hours a day average at my gig. Jeff is pretty loose about his fee, and he gets it far less than monthly, he's pretty lenient and is aware that we're not all that well heeled. Same with Kaylene, she's let it ride for now. Maybe we need to develope some more specialized websites of our own and have ads and commerce enabled on them. There's also potential for being an isp out in the Bastrop area. It's a matter or prioritizing and organizing all these options."}, {"response": 48, "author": "amy", "date": "Thu, Dec 24, 1998 (18:44)", "body": "Terry, I've recently heard about a new web ad rep firm that charges a hefty commission (50%) but allows you to do ad contracts on a month-to-month basis, which would be a safe way to test the waters. It's called Burst Media (www.burstmedia.com, I think) and I've checked them out: a local IU basketball site here in Bloomington (peegs.com) uses them and says he always has an ad run that nets him at least a dollar a thousand page views, and occasionally double or triple that. So this guy must earn around $50 a month. You will see per M ad rates much higher, but in looking around, the trouble seems to be with unsold inventory. Also the scary feeling that comes with long contracts. I could not make myself sign one with Flycast for Pemberley.com a year ago or so. Might be worth looking into."}, {"response": 49, "author": "amy", "date": "Thu, Dec 24, 1998 (18:45)", "body": "I meant to say he likely nets $500."}, {"response": 50, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jan 2, 1999 (05:18)", "body": "From what I've seen, Terry, the most successful conferencing systems are those that possess either of the following properties: 1. A ridiculously large amount of money 2. Are specialised. Obviously (1.) is out for us, short of me winning the lottery and since I don't play the lottery that's not going to happen any time soon. So, (2.) it is, then. What do we specialise in? you might ask. Well, cast your mind back and realise that we've done it ralready a couple of times: bronte and drool drew in so many people they nearly crashed the place out! It would seem that the time has come to bite the bullet and start putting advertising in. Banner ads relevant to particular conferences could b inserted, I guess, and our regulars encouraged to click them once every couple of days - heck they might even buy something. The combination of two or three \"dynamite\" conferences, with scores of people in, and them all gaily clicking their mouse buttons on the banner ads is not going to hurt the old finances, is it? Maybe shell accounts should be charged for, since they side-step the banner ads? It doesn't have to be that much a month/quarter/year (*please!*) but it would bring in some revenue. I see on the Spring web site there's a page detailing the price of various different connection packages (dialup, ISDN, etc.). HOw about polishing this up and really pushing it around your local area? Give people a great deal - much cheaper than they might expect to get off another ISP, and they'll come in in droves. It doesn't matter if your profit margins are small if the number of people is high enough. Become an Amazon Bookstore Associate vendor. Each conference, or even several topics within a conference could have affiliate links, and you would make something like 10 or 15% off of each sale. Offer cut-price server space - lower than anybody else in your area. Find out the shortest length of time it's possible to get a dedicated web server package (you know, space, connectivity, etc.) in your area, and then chop that in half - if there's one thing that scares people, it's committing to something for too long. Sell domain names like www.(yourname).spring.net to people who don't want to sign up for a two-year InterNIC thing. Stop registering random domain names in the hope that they'll one day become valuable - I've got to say I think it's unlikely that you'll net another $20k by selling silk.com! Each domain costs money, and it's money that could perhaps be better directed... Finally (for now!) ADVERTISE! And I don't mean advertising in the conferences of other communities - those people have already chosen where they want to be, and are unlikely to do more than come over and have a quick look. Advertising in the \"old\" media is often more useful - the \"cool and edgy\" article should have been a major breakthrough on people coming through. Perhaps you could get a follow-up article? One thing that could draw completely new people in is pushing a whole internet/Spring connecti ity package - monthly dialup/ISDN internet connection and full Spring access (waive any Shell account fees) all in one shebang - heck, you could even design a modem package for those people (and there are a lot of them!) who don't have modems! License some third-party computers and sell those, throwing in free on-line support here are the Spring. Seems to me there are lots of things we can do, if only we pull our fingers out!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jan 2, 1999 (11:45)", "body": "hey, i've got an idea for a conference topic: how about \"What Do You Collect?\" and it could have topics ranging from barbie to railroad cars to furby. there are so many websites out there dedicated to collecting and i think it would have a drool-worthy success rate. tell me watcha think!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Jan 2, 1999 (11:56)", "body": ""}, {"response": 53, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jan 2, 1999 (22:01)", "body": ""}, {"response": 54, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 4, 1999 (10:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 55, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Jan 4, 1999 (11:23)", "body": "wolfie, the collecting conference has been set up! enjoy!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jan 4, 1999 (11:44)", "body": "you are such a sweetie! thanks sooooo much, ray *hugs*"}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (12:41)", "body": "and remember, if you order stuff from Amazon.com, we are now an affiliate and get commissions, so go through one of our links or just bookmark http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/thespring as your Amazon.com link (every little bit helps!)"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (19:52)", "body": "Again thanks for the generous $150 contribution! And for rescuing our domain name austen.com on a day when the Spring bank balance was subzero. We have our angels!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 2, 1999 (08:15)", "body": "I would like to thank Elizabeth for the very kind contribution \"For the DWG\". Hope you're having a great day in West Virginia today, Elizabeth! Folks like these help us keep going!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (17:18)", "body": "quick question: checks ok? and if so, who are they made out to?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (10:01)", "body": "To Paul Terry Walhus or to the Spring, either way!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:32)", "body": "Either way. Right now the Spring's strapped financially, particularly in the next two weeks. So any contributions would be most welcome! I'm trying to raise at least $400 by Friday to pay ddc.net. I'll be albel to manage most of the rest of the $2000 owed to them around the first of next month. Contributions should be sent o a new address: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Drive Austin, TX 78758 I will be putting up an appreciation page soon, for all those who have made such great contributions."}, {"response": 63, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (16:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 64, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (11:00)", "body": ""}, {"response": 65, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (16:32)", "body": ""}, {"response": 66, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (18:43)", "body": "hmmm..."}, {"response": 67, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (11:10)", "body": "found one!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (11:41)", "body": "Whew!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (13:47)", "body": "Thanks so much to the four folks who have sent a combined total of nearly $200.00. Our goal is $400 a quarter. Soon, we'll be putting up an appreciation page thanking all those who have contributed (unless, of course, they specify that they want to remain anonymous). These folks have done so much to help us along. Another way you can help is to sign up for your own \"briefcase\"; the Spring has just beomce an affiliate with Visto and they offer a wonderful web based application that let's you keep track of your calendar, files, photos. email, address book, tasks, bookmarks, events, family, friends and co-workers. It will be a great help to you and your group. And every time someone signs up, the Spring will get $2.00. So this is a way you can help yourself and help the community. Please sign up and make your contribution that way! You can click on this banner to get started. SRC=\" http://service.bfast.com/bfast/serve/mid1291956?siteid=5325183&bfpag e=home\" BORDER=\"0\" WIDTH=\"1\" HEIGHT=\"1\" NOSAVE > HREF=\"http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1291956?siteid=5325183&bfpag e=home\" TARGET=\"_top\"> SRC=\"http://www.visto.com/affiliate/banners/tab_getvisto.gif \" BORDER=\"0\" WIDTH=\"468\" HEIGHT=\"60\"> Or you can send a contribution to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758 Soon, we may be taking credit cards for contributions as well! For now, checks payable to the Spring. Or just send us $2 bucks by signing up with Visto. It's a good thing."}, {"response": 70, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (15:35)", "body": "terry, you should be getting a couple of bucks from me...the link to visto needs to be typed into the address block including the \"page=home\" part. cutting and pasting didn't work for me."}, {"response": 71, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (15:36)", "body": "that is, until the banner works *grin*"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (17:53)", "body": "More foreign currency should be showing up from the Ladies of Drool. I will give them another good nudge - warn me next time bills are due - about 2 weeks before they pull the plugs. I will rattle more chains and send you my contribution, too."}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (18:27)", "body": "Thanks! Basically, it costs $1200 a quarter for our T-1 that we run the Spring on, it isn't our only expense, but it's the critical one. It's actually a pretty good deal, it's just a lot to bite off for one person. I tried to fix the link to visto on http://www.spring.net . If we get a lot of $2 clickthroughs that will help, but it will take 50 of those to match the $100 contribution we got last week. But every bit helps, and if we can get enough of these you never know! I'll let you know how many of these $2 hits we get, I know of at least one (wolf) already. If anyone else clicks through, please post something so I know if folks are doing this."}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (23:17)", "body": ""}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (00:10)", "body": ""}, {"response": 76, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (13:21)", "body": ""}, {"response": 77, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (18:38)", "body": "I wanna picture... you know like when you sponsor a starving child... I wanna picture!!"}, {"response": 78, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (19:30)", "body": ""}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "What happened to my invisible picture of the starving child and message from same written in its own handwriting?"}, {"response": 80, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (19:57)", "body": "the kid in that picture was eating a sardine sandwich with a side of poi... hardly in need..."}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (20:25)", "body": "You peeked!!!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (00:58)", "body": "Alright, alright, I'll try and find a starving child and get a picture."}, {"response": 83, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (01:09)", "body": "So far, $8.00 in revenues including my own sign up. That means 3 folks here have signed up so far. If you haven't yet signed up, the best place is from http://www.workontheweb.com ."}, {"response": 84, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (01:12)", "body": "Visto also gave me this report: Web Site Transaction Day Transaction Date Impressions Click Throughs Click to Impression % Work on the Web Wednesday 06/30/1999 Subtotal 384 impressions 22 click throughs 5.729% click to impression So our first day, we 5% of the folks who saw the link actually complete the process. Is our link messing up? What do you think is going on with these stats?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (01:20)", "body": ""}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (01:30)", "body": ""}, {"response": 87, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (02:40)", "body": ""}, {"response": 88, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (04:23)", "body": "(The patented Wer (TM)-Hustle! Go, Buddy, Go!)"}, {"response": 89, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (14:55)", "body": "My SO would have a fit if I took on any more here. But let me think on that proposition. Wer does not have to hustle me; He has me firmly wound arund his little finger. I should really spend more time in Drool on 113 and get it going again. They seem to need to be entertained there, so they left me in charge. Silly people!"}, {"response": 90, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (17:50)", "body": "some folks, like me (and bert, my feathered friend) don't come thru the spring.net page but rather thru main. maybe we could include the link on all the conferences'pages?"}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (18:03)", "body": "Good idea Wolf. I come in thru /read/whatever/#/new or the main page. Need a link inside! Definitely!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (02:16)", "body": "aaaiiiyyeeee!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (02:46)", "body": "Today we struck out on our Visto link. Although we had over 500 folks view the link, zero clicked through! So our click through percentage is now in the 2% range. And I had three rentors move out of my Cedar Creek house today leaving 3 vacancies (huge loss not coming at a good time) so I had to cancel my trip to Tennessee this weekend to a Fourth of July Fest and I put an ad in the Austin paper for room mates. Gotta really hustle now to get folks out there. But on the good side, I found a place that will process credit cards for donations, with no upfront fee and a 9.5% processing fee. , please call me about this and I'll give you to development url. And I'll email it to you. I'm going to go by a few of the Churches out in Cedar Creek and see about finding some folks who might be interested in the place. It's a great place and it's wired to the net and all."}, {"response": 94, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (03:53)", "body": "good luck!"}, {"response": 95, "author": "Renata", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (08:28)", "body": "Just to make sure that I don't spread a wrong link, which I have posted on drool #119: http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1291956?siteid=5325183&bfpage=home Marcia, Karen, Heide, Terry, wer, whoever is involved in the Visto-thing: I have copied the above link from the one you deposited so secretly on http://www.firth.com/ , so I assume they will realise that anybody coming in through the above one is from Spring???!! PS: Whoever dropped that Visto logo and link on the firth.com entry page: I know that all of us are very short of time, but I would appreciate much if you'd at least drop me a note the next time you change something *in* my Afirthionado files? Thank you."}, {"response": 96, "author": "Renata", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (08:49)", "body": ""}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (15:06)", "body": ""}, {"response": 98, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (16:36)", "body": ""}, {"response": 99, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (18:50)", "body": "well, what about allowing the hosts of the conferences to post the links on their conference main pages?"}, {"response": 100, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (23:37)", "body": "go, baby, go! you got the smarts and technology!!! and when have I told you you couldn't do something, Wolf?"}, {"response": 101, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (23:45)", "body": "why, never, wer, never *blush*"}, {"response": 102, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "so why you asking now? I finally signed for visto, too... now to have the time to see if it is gonna be useful!!!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (12:25)", "body": "Yep, we've made $14.00 on the 7 signups so far. And I just looked in to a couple of dozen more affiliate programs. I've gonig to be busy today evaluating these programs and figuring out where we can put them. I can see we're going to need both a special affiliates/sponsors page on www.spring.net and on a dedicated website as well. I'll start a topic for affiliates in the projects conference so you can get some links from there."}, {"response": 104, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (13:40)", "body": "kewl!"}, {"response": 105, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (02:03)", "body": "!!!"}, {"response": 106, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (08:44)", "body": ""}, {"response": 107, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (11:16)", "body": ""}, {"response": 108, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (21:49)", "body": ""}, {"response": 109, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 7, 1999 (17:00)", "body": "Thanks, it's pretty easy to click through to visto's site and sign up, it's a 10 minute gig and it's pretty painless. And it might even be highly beneficial!"}, {"response": 110, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 7, 1999 (17:32)", "body": "Renate did a nice \"ad\" for Visto in Drool. I hope they were paying attention. Else, they will hear from me in mass emailings... I can be most persistent when the cause is right, and you, Terry dear, are most worthy!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (12:22)", "body": "Thank you! I sent an email to Anne haker (anneh@spring.net) to see if she would put a banner on austen.com. The stats for this site are off the charts, it's rapidly catching up with spring.net. The stats alone for hits on that site fill up a major share of our hard drive to the point where I'm goin t to have the replace the two 4 gb hard drives with much larger ones. Maybe a pair of 12 gb hard drives. austen.com is a huge success, huge! So I hope she'll let us do a banner there or at least a link."}, {"response": 112, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (15:29)", "body": "Is Drool losing its preeminence on your boards and in your heart?! I am all astonishment (an Austenism); we shall have to rise to the occasion."}, {"response": 113, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (17:35)", "body": "Ca-ching.... I have signed up with Vista, Terry, through the link on the spring.net page. OK by me to put a banner link on the Drool main conference page and at the bottom of each topic page, with the amazon link for balance of course. ;-) Esthetics always. (Marcia) They seem to need to be entertained there, so they left me in charge. Silly people! tsk tsk"}, {"response": 114, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (18:26)", "body": "Karen, 113 is dormant, sleeping, non-responsive, moribund and not very active, either...How often you get down this way? I'll have to be a whole lot nicer if I am to live up to my Drool reputation - whatever that might be...!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (18:45)", "body": "Hi Marcia....what are you doing here? Babysitting the Pledge Drive?"}, {"response": 116, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (19:58)", "body": "actually she's adding wisdom and insight... and plenty of good vibrations!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (20:19)", "body": ""}, {"response": 118, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 8, 1999 (20:24)", "body": ""}, {"response": 119, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (01:38)", "body": ""}, {"response": 120, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (01:44)", "body": "and a hearty \"Thank you, Evelyn!!!\""}, {"response": 121, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (11:25)", "body": "Have you signed up your goldfish for Visto yet?"}, {"response": 122, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (12:13)", "body": "nope, they all died..."}, {"response": 123, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "Your pet snail then."}, {"response": 124, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (13:46)", "body": "they don't get online much, what with all the garlic butter and such..."}, {"response": 125, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (15:00)", "body": "Perhaps they'd love the epicurious site..."}, {"response": 126, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (15:12)", "body": "who wouldn't?"}, {"response": 127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (18:50)", "body": "I just signed up for Visto under my alternate ISP and used my formerly wedded name. I don't quite know how you will arrange it when you try to enroll your guppies, but think of your relatives - even if they do not know! (How closely do they check to see if that phone number and zip code match, BTW?)"}, {"response": 128, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 10, 1999 (18:09)", "body": ""}, {"response": 129, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 18, 1999 (20:37)", "body": ""}, {"response": 130, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jul 19, 1999 (00:21)", "body": "ah, something is finally working!!!"}, {"response": 131, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 19, 1999 (00:57)", "body": "Am I ever happy to hear that. I was about to sign up people who do not know I can because I know all about them!!! Great news, Terry! And, thanks, wer, for putting them everywhere!"}, {"response": 132, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 19, 1999 (10:10)", "body": "The Spring made over $100 this weekend on Visto clickthroughs, and we havne't even introduced the idea of Visto groups yet. When folks hear about this they'll want to use Visto for their families and groups. It's really a good thing so I feel good about using these banners to support us. I'll keep building the affiliates page for folks who want to shop there and use these click throughs and, wer, feel free to copy appropraite banners to strategic areas around the Spring (eg. barnesand noble.com to books). But Visto is really turning out to be a winner for us. I hope this trend continues, if it does, it could mean the end to financial woes."}, {"response": 133, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 19, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "Amen, Terry. It is about time you were free of financial worries. Just keep us posted if any reverses occur and I shall rattle cages once again on your behalf. Now, kick back and enjoy - you can't imagine how delighted I am to find your postings everywhere! Now, if we could only interest you in Colin Firth...(Not!)"}, {"response": 134, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (12:34)", "body": "The click throughs are back to about 1 or 2 per day now, I wonder what happened that pushed us through the roof for those three days? I notice wer put Visto banners in a bunch of conferences. Let's figure out how to pump it up again. I'll copy the banners to http://www.spring.net/shop from http://www.spring.net/affiliates and keep adding to this page so it can be a little shoppping mall area for software, books, videos, travel bookings, etc."}, {"response": 135, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (15:18)", "body": "and we need to coordinate better, because I already had a GoTo affiliation, not to mention Amazon and American Spice..."}, {"response": 136, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (17:13)", "body": "Visto's the only one that ever brought revenue in. Speaking of which, I got a $20,000 offer for a domain name today (not spring.net, austen.com or firth.com so don't worry). Don't know if this is too low or not."}, {"response": 137, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (17:17)", "body": "well, in my view, it is more than nothing..."}, {"response": 138, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (21:13)", "body": "really! (was it mine?)"}, {"response": 139, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (21:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 140, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 21, 1999 (10:38)", "body": "yep... go for the cash-ola"}, {"response": 141, "author": "Renata", "date": "Wed, Jul 21, 1999 (14:35)", "body": "Take the cash and \"buy\" some more promising domains :-)."}, {"response": 142, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 21, 1999 (16:20)", "body": "like Paulterry.com or .net or .org or... tofueater.com or .net or .org or veggiepastelover.com etc etc etc or coolandedgy.com Hmmm... this is fun!"}, {"response": 143, "author": "Renata", "date": "Wed, Jul 21, 1999 (17:26)", "body": "Take the cash and \"buy\" some more promising domains :-)."}, {"response": 144, "author": "Renata", "date": "Wed, Jul 21, 1999 (17:31)", "body": "Ooops. Hit reload..... What about www.summer.net www.winter.net www.fall.net :-)"}, {"response": 145, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 21, 1999 (21:42)", "body": "interesting renate! take the dough, terry :)"}, {"response": 146, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 22, 1999 (11:52)", "body": "(i LIKED tofueater.com)"}, {"response": 147, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 22, 1999 (14:14)", "body": "(So did I, Stace, but Terry is probably saving that one for special occasions.)"}, {"response": 148, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (00:59)", "body": "Terry, I posted this notice in Drool, Food, SpringArk, and Porch and Screwed then sent it through Springfolks message board. Could you give me some figures to throw at them for the next round of pleading?! This place and its people are very special to me! If you value Spring and the discussions herein (not to mention the venting going on), do you realize this is Terry's web site for which he pays all the bills? Please, it is time to help with any donation you can afford. He has some pretty big bills to pay and he needs your (and my) help to sustain all of the stuff we are posting. Think if he had to cut back and eliminate some of - or all of - the conferences?! Please! Send contributions to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758"}, {"response": 149, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (19:47)", "body": "Figures: 1288 quarterly colocation fee charged by ddc.net 602 quarterly SW Bell bandwidth fee 125 purchase of 9 gb hard drive to ease disk space shortage ??? upgrading of machines for y2k (1800-2000 approx) 300 Yapp licensing fee for the quarter So that's about $4k to get us through till the end of the year."}, {"response": 150, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (20:06)", "body": "Thanks, Terry. I posted in Poetry hoping to stave off the departure of posters and the increase of donations. I had no idea it would be taken that way...!"}, {"response": 151, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (09:47)", "body": "Our stats, for anyone interested, are at http://www.spring.net/stats/stats.cgi Visto is supposed to pay quarterly, but we haven't seen our first check yet. We may be stepping up our shopping areas and going after more clickthrough revenue."}, {"response": 152, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (15:28)", "body": "Terry, that's a great resource. Thanks for posting the URL. Shall I put it in Drool 100 or did you do so already?"}, {"response": 153, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (17:37)", "body": "Go ahead and put it wherever, folks like to see stats. If you've got telnet access, try this at an ok: prompt sometime: !tail -f /var/www/logs/spring.net/access.log You'd be amazed how much traffic have every minute."}, {"response": 154, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (23:06)", "body": "Ok, I'll put them around where the curious might look and I do indeed have telnet access - two places (through haleakala.aloha.net and www.spring.net) and I shall remember that prompt to see what activity there is. Thanks!"}, {"response": 155, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (23:16)", "body": "I entered it at the OK prompt and it keeps telling me it cannot execute it !tail-f /var/www/logs/spring.net/access.log Something wrong with my spacing or the wrong dash before the f?"}, {"response": 156, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 4, 1999 (10:17)", "body": "Ooops, There's a space in between tail and -f !tail -f /var/www/logs/spring.net/access.log will do it."}, {"response": 157, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 4, 1999 (17:47)", "body": "thanks again! (posted that comment above in telnet and do not know how it got posted twice...!)"}, {"response": 158, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 4, 1999 (17:50)", "body": "Looking back at your original post, I note that you put the space in originally - the Oops was mine!"}, {"response": 159, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (20:31)", "body": "Please help me to recover some of these bandwidth costs for austen.com! I'm out a total of $1,021.26 since 1/21/2000 on extra bandwidth costs and sure could use some help right now. Please mail contributions to Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Thanks!!!!!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (20:42)", "body": "I just emailed the people who need to know (May I be of help? Call me if so, but that is more than I can handle...)"}, {"response": 161, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (23:17)", "body": "Of course it is more than one person can handle, that's why we need to crank up the old pledge drive again, it's always worked before. Folks usually respond."}, {"response": 162, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (01:57)", "body": "I sent this to the list, but I put lots of nice and loud notices about it on the Austen.com site. I think it might help that I can be specific for people about what exactly is needed. I posted the info (without what looked like credit card numbers), so people know what is owed. I suppose some of that was due to our chat room. Since that is gone, I hope the expenses drop off some."}, {"response": 163, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (10:29)", "body": "It should, and if you need a chat room, I can work on a plan for that on another server. But for some reason, austen.com is using huge amounts of bandwidth. This isn't a bad thing, it's good, it means the site is healthy and a lot of information is getting transferred. I just need some help from the community with these extra bandwidth costs."}, {"response": 164, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (10:49)", "body": "We're working on finding an off-site chat room, right now it looks like we may settle in at ATT's chatroom service. Chat rooms use a lot of bandwith, so my guess is that the death of our room should cut back on your costs. If you had it on another server, you'd have to pay for that, right? I think keeping it at a free site would be good (if I can find one everyone on my site can get into, which isn't easy). That way someone else picks up the tab :) Do you want me to post B&N ads on Austen.com, and encourage people to buy their books there?"}, {"response": 165, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (17:15)", "body": "Well, today I ordered 1.5 gib bandwith DSL at my Quail Creek house, and I could put one of the old UNIX servers back online from the days when we colocated. I think this would do the job, and we would have total control over the setup. In fact, I could dedicate an entire machine to this. Speaking of bandwidth on austen.com:"}, {"response": 166, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:08)", "body": "Pretty amazing! What's it gonna cost you to put the old UNIX server back online? What is the new 1.5 gb bandwidth gonna cost? Something is terribly wrong if you are supporting something in which you do not even participate. What happened to the good old American way?! (Sorry, but I am getting testy about this on your behalf)"}, {"response": 167, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:14)", "body": "It's gonna cost $299 per month for 13 machines with dedicated ip addresses, I think I'll set it up as ns1.wholetech.com and ns2.wholetech.com. I'll get 3 or 4 of the roomies there to chip in $30 apiece a month for their own ip addresses and that will cut it down to around $200 or less. But it will let us run an Internet buiness out of that house. I've got 2900 square feet of space in Cedar Creek I'd like to use for the same purpose, running servers, but the problem is no DSL, only isdn in the area. So the Quail house is going to be it for now. Maybe we could run satellite bandwidth to Cedar Creek?"}, {"response": 168, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:44)", "body": "Sounds fascinating...and it is time you got your ISP back online. I was so sad the day you were forced to take it offline. The $200 is over and above the cost of running your websites...You surely are not setting yourself up as a philanthropic organization...?!"}, {"response": 169, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:45)", "body": "No I'd like to make enough so I didn't have to do other things to support this venture. I'd like to devote a lot more time to webpage creations and community building."}, {"response": 170, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (19:10)", "body": "Super! We'd all like that, methinks! I cannot think of many other things which would give me more joy than more Terry on the Spring (bring that big guy with you, too, please!)"}, {"response": 171, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (01:10)", "body": "First, I'm very happy to run fundraisers on Austen.com to support our part of the Spring, and I know a lot of my people are happy to donate--but I need to know when the money is needed, and I'd like to know how much is needed on a monthly basis to support Austen? It seems that the only time I hear about money problems is when there is a crisis. If I don't know it's needed or how much is needed, it's hard to know to run a fund-raiser. If I can get info to my people on the costs of the site, I think they will understand the kind of money is required in donations and ante up. (Unfortunately I have quite a large group of teenagers, who just don't have money to donate, but the adults are fully willing, and I think they can do enough.) I'm also willing to look at the Austen site to see where bandwidth can be reduced, but don't really know how that whole things works, and could use some general explanations of it. Second, I'd like clear info on affiliates which could be used by the Austen folks to help raise money. What affiliates are all out there, should I put up B&N links, for example? How much could be collected this way? Thirdly, if you do set up those new computers, how much would that cost? Would switching over some of the biggest bandwidth-hogging parts of the Austen site to those machines save money? or would it mearly shift the same cost somewhere else? Info is good! More info! Money is good! More money!"}, {"response": 172, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (03:27)", "body": "Good questions, Ann. I'll have to get with the DSL folks to find out if they charge for excessive bandwidth. I'm curious about this. If they don't charge for bandwidth, then I'd say that would be the way to go for the bandwidth intensive aspects of austen.com. The best place to get info on affiliates is reporting.net, you can see the range there. Visto is potentially far and away the best affiliate, and they offer a great service. I'll have to figure out why it is that austen.com uses so much bandwidth. It's not necessarily good to reduce it if it means large transfers of useful information are going on. I'll look at the logs in more depth to see which areas of the site are getting the most intense traffic. Maybe that will reveal the answer. It's surprising that austen.com has so dramatically surged ahead of spring.net in bandwidth, with all the streaming video and audio we do on spring.net. But somehow it's happened. And in many ways it's due to the great job of site building y'all have done, Ann. It's a sign of success and growth."}, {"response": 173, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (03:51)", "body": "I'll try and get a good answer to the when the money is needed question. Perhaps we should do a fund raiser at the start of every quarter. January, April, July and October would be good times. Start at the first of each of these months and try to raise enough to cover bandwidth and any ohter costs. Just a suggestions, you could establish a membership/patron system like I'm working on for spring.net (see the button on the main page). Where do you see austen.com going, Ann? And what would you like to see in the future as far as new features on the site? How do you see austen.com fitting in to the universe of other austen.com sites, do you see it as the portal site? Or do you see it more as a place for literary expression?"}, {"response": 174, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (21:45)", "body": "If the volume of traffic from Austen.com end up being overbearing on Spring, there are ways I can reduce it without ruining the site. Most of the traffic is on the bulliten boards, but I can move those off-site to a free service, such as Inside The Web. I'd like to avoid that if possible, because they have ugly flashing ads at the top, and I'd have less control over the structure of the pages. But I looked at the Analog output and the number of hits the different boards get is over 55% of the Austen.com traffic. So, if necessary, Austen.com could go on a diet. I noticed the usage spike, and was quite surprised by it, especially when it seems to correspond to the death of our chat room (which occured around 3/13/00). I would have thought that would have caused a drop off. As for Austen.com. I don't know where I want it to go. Right now it is a bifurcated site. The front half has lots of JA links, and I'm slowly putting her six novels up as well. The back, and interactive, half us mostly dedicated to creative writing and archiving the stories people post (over 650 of them!) I'd like to have more Austen-related info, but there is no reason to duplicate the stuff that Pemberley has, and that covers a lot of ground. Right now my goal is to get annotated version of the novels up on line. I'm working on the third of these right now."}, {"response": 175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (22:02)", "body": "Wow, Ann, that is certainly impressive regarding your annotated Jane Austen. And, you have a real life besides. I am all amazement *smile*"}, {"response": 176, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (08:11)", "body": "I'd rather figure out ways to support the site rather than inhibit it's growth in any way. I'm looking foward to these annotated novels, that's outstanding. It wouldn't seem like the bbs would use that much bandwidth."}, {"response": 177, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (13:56)", "body": "I certainly agree. Especially if it is not done at the expense of other places of value on the Spring."}, {"response": 178, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (18:35)", "body": "Pretty soon, in 30 days to be exact, I'll have some homegrown servers that can take up some of the slack. And also there may be other deals out there on bandwidth. Excessive bandwidth is a good thing, it means we're going, we just have to be more creative about supporting it with ads, donations, and click throughts and get more commerce sites in gear."}, {"response": 179, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (09:44)", "body": "Friday was a record day for contributions toward our austen.com bandwidth bill, I received 5 contributions totaling $215, one for $100. *Huge* thanks and hugs for all those who sent the checks and the beautiful cards and notes. It really, really helps out. Thanks!"}, {"response": 180, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (14:42)", "body": "How far are you from total coverage of the amount?"}, {"response": 181, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (15:25)", "body": "We're about 27% there."}, {"response": 182, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (16:22)", "body": "Writing check and putting it in the morning mail...."}, {"response": 183, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (20:12)", "body": "We're over half there now! Actually close to 70%!!!! Today was awesome. Much, much, much thanks, especially for the $500 donation!"}, {"response": 184, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (21:33)", "body": "Yee Haw! Whoopee! and my check is in the mail...."}, {"response": 185, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (01:36)", "body": "I can't thank everyone enough for the best day ever in the history of Spring for the kind contributions and the wonderful thoughts that came along with them. My sincere, heartfelt thanks to everyone. I was going to put the names on a pledge page, but the overwhelming sentiment is to keep it anonymous, so I respect that. You know who you are, and I'm so grateful to you!"}, {"response": 186, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (14:32)", "body": "*Big Hugs, Terry! Thank you Springizens all!"}, {"response": 187, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (14:33)", "body": "Terry, I was asked in email if your address had changed. Before it was a box number at Cedar Creek."}, {"response": 188, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (17:19)", "body": "Was that $500 one from an Austen.com person?"}, {"response": 189, "author": "amy", "date": "Mon, May 8, 2000 (06:34)", "body": "CEO of Visto will be in live chat tonight at AT&T WorldNet. http://attworldnet.ehosts.net/celeb/celeb.html"}, {"response": 190, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 8, 2000 (17:26)", "body": "Cool, any idea what time?"}, {"response": 191, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (09:42)", "body": "Who will be a hero today and help out with the $35 we need to renew the austen.com website? Call me at 512.699.4000 or email terry@spring.net if you are willing to help pay this. It has to be paid by credit card at http://www.networksolutions.com (click on \"make payments\" and specify austen.com). I'm very broke today, waiting for a payday and rent checks to come in!"}, {"response": 192, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (09:45)", "body": "Message 1/429 From invoice@networksolutions.com Nov 1, 0 09:35:01 am -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:35:01 -0500 (EST) To: terry@SPRING.NET Subject: INVOICE (AUSTEN.COM) Precedence: Bulk Date: 28-OCT-2000 Domain AUSTEN.COM Walhus, Paul Terry Rt 2 Box 56R Austin, TX 78612 US Scan Code: 900286278924035006 FROM: Network Solutions, Inc. PO Box 17305 Baltimore, MD 21297-0525 United States Federal ID # 52-1146119 PHONE: 1-800-779-1710 from the United States and Canada. Outside of these areas, call 1-703-742-4777 Monday - Friday from 7:00am - 9:00pm Eastern Standard Time. 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OR Call (888) 771-3000 from the United States, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Isla nds. Outside of these areas, call (402) 496-9798. You'll need your invoice numbe r and credit card number to use this automated service. We're available 24 hours , 7 days a week to help you. CHECK: If you'd like to pay by check, wait until you receive your registration/renewal notice in the mail. When making payment by check, be sure to include the remitta nce stub in the return envelope provided. ATTENTION BUSINESS ACCOUNT PROGRAM MEMBERS: If you have a Debit Account and would like to pay the registration/renewal fee f or AUSTEN.COM using the funds in that account, send an e-mail to accounts@networ ksolutions.com with the domain name, invoice number and 16-digit account number you were assigned when the Debit Account was established. **************************************************************** For all other billing or customer service inquiries send an e-mail from http://w ww.networksolutions.com/help/question-form.html or call 1-800-779-1710 from the United States and Canada. Outside of these area s, call 1-703-742-4777 Monday - Friday from 7:00am - 9:00pm Eastern Standard Tim e We appreciate your business and look forward to serving you for many more years! Sincerely, Network Solutions, Inc. A VeriSign(r) Company"}, {"response": 193, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (10:12)", "body": "No problem, Terry. Me and my folks will take care of it. Which raises the question...can we actually get it registered in our name instead of yours? I know I mentioned buying the domain from you before. I was wondering what you might want for it?"}, {"response": 194, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (13:33)", "body": "We'll discuss offline!"}, {"response": 195, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (11:06)", "body": "Have you checked out the click-thru links to make donations? First, it says on the screen that terry@spring.net does NOT accept payments from non-US payers. What?! Why are you not taking advantage of the International capabilities of PayPal? This is what is needed, especially for austen.com, which has a huge worldwide following? Didn't you sign up for a \"business\" account? Second, why does the screen have an \"amount\" shown ($25) and a quantity? Why isn't it donate what you want and what you can? This is nonsensical to most people. Please check out your links and setup from the main Spring page, as well as the one Ann has posted at austen.com"}, {"response": 196, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (12:13)", "body": "Good advice Karen, I'll follow up on all of this. I did sign up for the business account, and I'll try and figure out the International stuff (any hints?). Bandwidth for austen.com was enormous this month. I just got the monthly report. It was about $583 something, but there are about 14 pending PayPal signups wiating verification and I got 4 $25 donations in the last few days. I've been sending out color 8x10 photos to donors and am looking at more items to send out in appreciation. I'll check out those links!"}, {"response": 197, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (14:27)", "body": "austen.com 10,595,157 ... from bandwidth report (this is megabytes of bandwidth for November)"}, {"response": 198, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (15:39)", "body": "I upgraded to a \"business\" account from a \"premium\" PayPal account so I should be able to accept International payments. The proof will be in the first time one of our overseas folks tries this. I have no way of testing it."}, {"response": 199, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (16:03)", "body": "Um, anyway I can get one of those pictures. My donation was to Karen and not small... please??!!!"}, {"response": 200, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (09:24)", "body": "Absolutely, email me your mailing address as a reminder!"}, {"response": 201, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (14:15)", "body": "About 12 people have signed up for PayPal via our link but haven't validated yet. If you want to validate (and get the $5.00 deposited in your account) you need to check your bank statement online or by phone and find out the two amounts that PayPal deposited in your account. Once you find these two amounts, you need to log in to your PayPal account and enter these amounts in the appropriate boxes."}, {"response": 202, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (14:21)", "body": "Terry, why does it say that you don't accept International? Isn't that a major objective here?"}, {"response": 203, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (15:44)", "body": "Just send you my street address. Thanks! Want to see a mind-blowing pix? http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/42.29 for a little less serious one http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/42.28"}, {"response": 204, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (15:47)", "body": "I signed up for a Business Account, so I should be able to accept International Payments, it still says that? I'll work some more with PayPal and call them if necessary to straighten this out."}, {"response": 205, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (16:03)", "body": "According to my account information, as a Business Account, I should be able to accept payments in these countries: PayPal is now available in the following countries: Australia Austria Belgium Brazil Canada Denmark France Germany Hong Kong Ireland Israel Italy Japan Mexico Netherlands New Zealand Norway Portugal Singapore South Africa South Korea Spain Sweden Switzerland United Kingdom"}, {"response": 206, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (16:15)", "body": "And I did send an email query to PayPal. Have any International users been able to use this? Has anyone from these countries been rejected?."}, {"response": 207, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (16:27)", "body": "*PayPal Users* have to use a special url to sign up! People from 26 countries around the world can now send and receive money online using PayPal. PayPal is already the #1 online payments service in the US -- over 4 million users have signed up since we launched our service one year ago. And now users from all over the globe will be able to take advantage of the world's fastest, easiest, and safest way to move money. It's simple to sign up [https://secure.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_international-register] for an international PayPal account. Just complete a brief registration form, confirm your email address, and add a credit or debit card to fund your payments. Registration is completely free, and all transactions are conducted in US dollars. PayPal is faster than mailing a cashier's check, and much cheaper than sending an expensive money wire. Also, all PayPal users in the US have automatically had their accounts upgraded to be 100% compatible with international members. Residents in the following countries are now eligible for PayPal accounts: Australia * Austria * Belgium * Brazil * Canada * Denmark * France * Germany * Hong Kong * Ireland * Israel * Italy * Japan * Mexico Netherlands * New Zealand * Norway * Portugal * Singapore * South Africa * South Korea * Spain * Sweden * Switzerland * United Kingdom"}, {"response": 208, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Dec 14, 2000 (17:08)", "body": "But when you click on the \"Donate\" buttons on Spring's main page, it says: terry@spring.net DOES NOT accept international payments. That will throw people off."}, {"response": 209, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 15, 2000 (08:54)", "body": "That will! I'll look in to a fix for this."}, {"response": 210, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (17:16)", "body": "I sent out some more pictures this morning to donors. But I can't send out some because the folks who made PayPal contributions didn't have their address in the notes in the payment they made. So if you've made a contribution, now or at any time in the past, and would like a photo sent to you, please email me and I would be happy to send you one! Thanks to everyone for helping out!"}, {"response": 211, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (17:18)", "body": ". . . and I have a couple of emails in to PayPal about the foreboding message that the Spring doesn't accept International payments. This is the one I got today: Message 2/9 From PayPal International Dec 17, 0 02:58:45 am -0800 Dear Mr. Walhus, Thank you for contacting PayPal. You may receive or send both international and domestic payments. All funds are transferred in US dollars. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again. Sincerely, Jennifer PayPal Customer Service"}, {"response": 212, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (17:48)", "body": "It doesn't matter what you post here, as people who want to contribute do not necessarily read this topic. When you click on a DONATE button on Spring's main page, you get this screen that says \"Spring does not accept payments from non-U.S. users.\" Here is the screen from the click through. https://secure.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr Have you asked PayPal why it says this? That would deter people."}, {"response": 213, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Dec 19, 2000 (07:06)", "body": "I have this question in to PayPal, it's in response to the email from Jennifer at PayPal Customer service. I think I may know the answer but it involves modifying the code in the link that PayPal generates. If I get time, I may experiment with this today. There may be a clue here: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/hlp/help_global_intl-outside There are a lot of PayPal pending accounts that folks will need to verify if the Spring is to receive the $5.00 sign up bonus, as well as the person signing up. The key is to look at your bank statement and see the two amounts PayPal deposits in your account, then go to their verification screen and key these amounts in. I'm working on covering the bandwidth bill for austen.com primarily and charges connected with running a network connection to the sites. PayPal may be a bit complicated for some, I can see why. But it's worth the effort to figure out in that it may provide a secure intermediary to make Internet Payments. If you haven't received a card from me by Christmas, please let me know. There are some folks whose addresses I don't have who I would like to send cards and/or photos to. My apologies to those who may not get cards, I'm working on putting together a complete list of those who make up our austen, firth, and spring communities. Email me with your address or others addresses that you may know of please. mailto://terry@spring.net"}, {"response": 214, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (23:30)", "body": "Thank for the pictures, Terry, but where were you, dear?"}, {"response": 215, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 27, 2000 (05:02)", "body": "I was behind the camera! That was my son walking in the woods, in the one."}, {"response": 216, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Apr 2, 2001 (18:00)", "body": "Has the international PayPal donation question been answered? I am about to do an Austen.com fundraiser and I noticed that the PayPal buttons on the Spring.net front page still contain the code \"no_intl\", which suggests that this still is up in the air. But when you click through to PayPal, part of the message says: International account holders: In order to complete this purchase, you must first complete activation of your account. Please complete registration and activation of your account at www.paypal.com before paying this merchant. That is a bit of a confusing item. Does \"registration and activation\" mean just filling out the credit card and password info that appears on that page? Or does it mean something else? I found the International Registration page. Is the one that pulls up when you click through the PayPal button the same thing--or is that just for US folks? Do my overseas folks have to find their way to the Intl Registration page?"}, {"response": 217, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 2, 2001 (18:25)", "body": "Good questions, I'll revisit this and check out the PayPal topic. Is anyone overseas willing to take part in a test and try and make a donation?"}, {"response": 218, "author": "LisaJH", "date": "Mon, Apr 2, 2001 (20:37)", "body": "I am involved with an international trade association (which is based in the US), and to date, we have been unable to receive payments via PayPal outside of the US."}, {"response": 219, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 3, 2001 (15:18)", "body": "Mmm, sounds like you've done some homework on this Lisa. Any suggestions on how we could go about this, Lisa?"}, {"response": 220, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Apr 4, 2001 (23:55)", "body": "Anyone figure this out yet?"}, {"response": 221, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 5, 2001 (11:00)", "body": "Still working on it, Ann. I may have to call Paypal today."}, {"response": 222, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 2, 2001 (06:48)", "body": "The Pledge Drive is open! We had a huge hit last month, over $1,000 in bandwidth expenses mostly due to the Bridget traffic, so keep those cards and checks coming in, and click on the PayPal donate button in the upper left corner of http://www.spring.net please!"}, {"response": 223, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 11, 2001 (03:18)", "body": "Our goal is to bring in $1,000 in contributions to pay for our huge bandwidth and other bills from last month (which total more than this actually). So far we're 23.5% of the way there with $235 in donations in the last week. One was for $100! Thanks and keep 'em coming! They help keep us going and growing."}, {"response": 224, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, May 11, 2001 (11:18)", "body": "Terry!! I'm getting permission denied to FTP into my directories. More Front Page nonsense??? Isn't there some way to exclude my subdirectory from all your Front Page rules and regs?"}, {"response": 225, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 11, 2001 (11:50)", "body": "Karen, I cannot ftp either. I emailed him earlier in the week about it. Arrrgh!"}, {"response": 226, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 11, 2001 (15:37)", "body": "More effects of Frontpage, I just got off the phone with Karen and I believe we have the permissions reset. I'm just getting back from the movies and dinner in town so I've been out of pocket. I'll check Marci's permissions now!"}, {"response": 227, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 12, 2001 (08:51)", "body": "Thanks ! I get to see baseball tonight... if I can stand to go with troll."}, {"response": 228, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, May 12, 2001 (11:38)", "body": "Terry, I still am in limbo with Austen.com. I'd love to go ahead and move the site over--since it is very confusing for my people to be stranded between two sites and 2 IP addresses, never knowing which site \"Austen.com\" will land them in--but I still can't set up my CGI boards. Right now only 2 of my directories are processing the CGI, the rest treat a script like plain text and print it out on the screen. I'm heading into my 3rd week of confusion over on Austen, and I'd like to get it all worked out. (And this afternoon the 208.171.121.122 digihost site is either really slow or not responding at all when I try to pull up pages.) BTW, why is it that some days \"Austen.com\" sends me to the new site, then on others it sends me to the old? It seems pretty random and swings back and forth. It makes it really hard on me and my e-mail too, because I can only access my Ann@Austen.com e-mail when it is routing to digihost; it gets blocked when it routes to datapipe. That is my primary e-mail and I can't help wondering how many messages are going astray. Yesterday I could get my e-mail, the day before I couldn't, and I can't today either. I go days without getting it, then get it for a day, then lose it again. Also, I sent you over $400 in checks today from my people. I think that brings the Austen fundraising total--not counting credit card payments--to about $625."}, {"response": 229, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 14, 2001 (10:12)", "body": "That's terrific, tonight I'll work with you and Barry on getting CGI going. Wecan keep the site where it is for now, but eventually we'll have to move it."}, {"response": 230, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, May 14, 2001 (10:46)", "body": "Terry, it's too confusing where it is. My people are going nuts. I have posts diappearing. I have people be routed randomly to the new or to the old site--and since the two sites do not have identical content at the moment, that means it appears as if things are disappearing and reappearing. I need to get this settled down."}, {"response": 231, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 14, 2001 (11:43)", "body": "OK. I'll set up the dns to run under ns1.spring.net and ns2.spring.net so we can point it where we want. It can point to the new site or the old site but not both. You will still be able to reference both sites by ip number. This will get things settled down. I'll make this dns change now!"}, {"response": 232, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, May 14, 2001 (12:40)", "body": "What I need most Terry is the ability to run CGI scripts on the new computers. Currently I can only do so in the board and writers directories. I need to be able to do so also in the derby, novel, and people directories at least--would like to have control of that myself, if I could."}, {"response": 233, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 14, 2001 (15:54)", "body": "I'm going to get with Barry on this as he has a better understanding of it and just went through this exercise on repeater.org, another of our web pages on this server. bdunlap@austin.rr.com, please email him these details and I'll follow up and work with him."}, {"response": 234, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 15, 2001 (03:36)", "body": "Ann, as you heard from Barry, the following directories have the .htaccess file in them: / /babble /board /derby /novel /people /writers /boardarc /giberish This allows the use of .cgi files and should clear up your board problem. You can inspect the contents of these files and examine the permissions settings if you need .htaccess in any other directories."}, {"response": 235, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (14:44)", "body": "Starting today, we're going to have four quarterly fund raising drives to pay our isp bills, make improvements, do backups and expand and add new features (faster server with bigger hard drives, etc). The pledge drives will be held on October 1-15, 2001 January 1-15, 2002 April 1-15, 2002 July 1-15, 2002 The goal of the current pledge drive is to pay all or a good portion of the $900 per quarter hosting fees we pay, plus another $600 to initiate a schedule of full backups to our server and an emergency preparedness plan. This quarter 25% of all donations will go to the newly established college fund for children of the survivors of the World Trade Center attack. Send your checks to: The Spring 182 Clover Road Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Use these logos to sign up (if you aren't a Paypal member and to make donations): target=\"_blank\"> ALT=\"Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!\" width=\"468\" height=\"60\"> METHOD=\"POST\"> VALUE=\" http://www.spring.net/paypal\" > drool or Spring\"> SRC=\" http://images.paypal.com/images/x-click-but7.gif \" NAME=\"submit\" ALT=\"Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!\" width=\"72\" height=\"29\" align=\"center\"> If you want to send your donations to Ann or Karen directly, and have them forward them to me, that's fine. Ann has handled this extremely well in the past and that way I can track which site they're earmarked for. This pledge drive includes Spring, Drool, Firth and Austen. Thanks! Your contributions have been generous in the past and have kept this place rolling along. We hope to be secure, safe and more robust in the future as a website where you can freely express your thoughts and feelings and honor your heroes."}, {"response": 236, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (23:33)", "body": "I got the first donation of this drive today, $50, which is one sixth of the way to paying this months hosting charges of $296.00. That's a start! I'd like to see the load spread out among more folks, and not weighing so heavily on myself and a few others. I'm encouraged by today's Paypal contribution. If you would like to give, please click the Paypal button to \"donate\" at http://www.spring.net . Or send check payable to The Spring to: The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 I sent a $12.50 check to the college fund for WTC survivors today, a fourth of the contribution I received."}, {"response": 237, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2006 (00:23)", "body": "Our new paypal for donations to the Spring is banking@wholetech.com Right now, they'd be appreciated as I've just laid out quite a bit for a new server and another year's hosting is due. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 42, "subject": "Why do you keep coming back?", "response_count": 166, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (14:12)", "body": "eye-hand coordination -- 55% learn new words -- 25% better than methadone -- 15% safe sex -- 5%"}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (17:34)", "body": "I asked, and I received!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (17:44)", "body": "Some of these could be quotable in a publicity flyer for the spring, but notice she didn't say better than sex?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (18:44)", "body": "it certainly has its moments!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (22:09)", "body": ""}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (05:26)", "body": ""}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (14:28)", "body": ""}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (14:44)", "body": "I miss you a *lot*! And I'm missig Riette, since she went on her trip. I notice the main screen lists the number of logins but it says \"web hits\" instead. I wonder if we can change that, I wonder who wrote cool piece of Yapp code. Wer? Kaylene? Or maybe I just never noticed it before."}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (16:27)", "body": "I did it...the variable in the instructions is defined as a \"read only web variable\"...so I figured it just counted web hits... and it does increment that way at least some of the time...I was the only one on at a certain time yesterday, and it did in fact count my page hits...will re-word it later..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (16:38)", "body": ""}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (21:40)", "body": ""}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 1, 1998 (22:26)", "body": "sure, too late now *grin* hiya wer!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 2, 1998 (14:31)", "body": "oh, well..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 2, 1998 (14:52)", "body": "specifically, it is \"the number of Yapp hits today from the www\" added a who is logged on via telnet, also... however, I can't get any switches to work with who, and I've found out when AOL crashes and I'm telnetting in, I doesn't log me out..."}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 2, 1998 (16:24)", "body": "never mind, those log ins go away with time..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 2, 1998 (18:42)", "body": "Yeah it resets daily doesn't it?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 2, 1998 (18:58)", "body": "yes, but the time is off..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (05:32)", "body": "I keep coming back hoping we'll grow as a community, I love it when new folks show up. Rollerblade postering service is plastering all the bulletin boards in town with Spring flyers. If you see one, give me some feedback on how to make them better, they're reprints of the Spring main page."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (05:34)", "body": "Rollerblade should read Motorblade. http://www.spring.net/~motorblade"}, {"response": 20, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (12:30)", "body": ""}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (17:43)", "body": ""}, {"response": 22, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (00:42)", "body": ""}, {"response": 23, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (01:46)", "body": "Hi, Ann. Are you new here? If so, since when have you been coming? Or do you just tend to go to other conferences? I don't love being away, but I love coming back without it occurring to me for a moment that anyone will have noticed, and then finding that they did. It is peculiar, but lovely."}, {"response": 24, "author": "CotC", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (12:14)", "body": "What the hell else have I got to do?..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (15:52)", "body": "Hi, Ann. Are you new here? } I've been around since Pemberley moved here."}, {"response": 26, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (16:17)", "body": "Hey, I'm logging on from the Texas State Aquarium in Corpus Christi..."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (16:59)", "body": "Hey, whatcha doin' there?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (17:03)", "body": "Hi, WER!!!! Having a good time?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (17:47)", "body": "get out and play in the sand WER... get some sea water up yer nose for me!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (22:30)", "body": "the aquarium? you on vacation? do they have a dolphin/whale display?????"}, {"response": 31, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (01:52)", "body": ""}, {"response": 32, "author": "MEC", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (21:54)", "body": ""}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (22:22)", "body": ""}, {"response": 34, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (02:01)", "body": "Mec, who are you? Are you new, or do you just go to the other conferences mostly? Whatever the case, glad you're here!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (12:05)", "body": "Howdy MEC!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (12:13)", "body": "Nice to have you here so regularly again, Stacey!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (12:18)", "body": "oh I'm just on another spring binge... *grin* thanks Ree-head! I go back to my 'real job' tomorrow but it has been kinda fun to have such regular access to a working computer. And I can just keep a telnet link open all the time. When I'm printing, or downloading, or slacking off, I can just stop in! Wandered by the art conference yesterday (through a browser so I could see all the groovy pics!) and it looks REALLY great! I love the new wallpaper (guess it's not so new anymore but it sure was something I hadn't seen before!)"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (13:38)", "body": "Ree Head the art goddess sure rocks, doesn't she?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (13:47)", "body": "yep... I just made it to the gallery in all its colorful glory!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (02:00)", "body": "Thanks, you two. I think the whole spring is rocking at the moment. Oh, and I heard from Mike Griggs yesterday as well. He'll be back in a fortnight or so - going on holiday, the lucky bugger!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (09:06)", "body": "Yep, I heard from him too, he emailed me using a friends account."}, {"response": 42, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (09:24)", "body": ""}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (09:48)", "body": ""}, {"response": 44, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (11:49)", "body": ""}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (13:01)", "body": "Ask a man friend and then tell us what he says then."}, {"response": 46, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (14:55)", "body": "My husband is my only close man friend, and he says he finds Claudia Schiffer ugly - but that's only because he has weird taste in women anyway. He couldn't think of any famous babes either; says he never thinks of other women as babes. Probably trying to play safe with my temper, as I'm having my period! ha-ha!!!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (17:04)", "body": "Playing it safe, good strategy."}, {"response": 48, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (22:18)", "body": "ok, well the dudes seem to like shania twain, should we add her?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (00:12)", "body": "Add her, she looks very sexy in the picture I saw of here today in the concert section of the paper."}, {"response": 50, "author": "nan", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (00:19)", "body": "Terry, dear...where's her head? ;-)"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (00:26)", "body": "Boy I messed that one up Nan, they have real intricate puzzle like coding on http://www.mercurynashville.com/mercury_nashville/artists/new_shania/shania_home.html You'll just have to go there to see it properly assembled."}, {"response": 52, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (01:29)", "body": "There's a woman with reason to be vain!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (21:43)", "body": ""}, {"response": 54, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (02:18)", "body": ""}, {"response": 55, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (09:18)", "body": ""}, {"response": 56, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (12:10)", "body": "Are you coming back, muffin?"}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (12:48)", "body": "as soon as it is safe..."}, {"response": 58, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (01:53)", "body": "But it IS safe! Don't you miss us too?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (08:37)", "body": "when my head is (relatively) safe, silly!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (13:26)", "body": "\ufffdkiss\ufffd"}, {"response": 61, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (21:50)", "body": "*hug* you're head is safe with us!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (22:51)", "body": "ah, but you all aren't safe with it..."}, {"response": 63, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (01:45)", "body": "Let us be the judges of that."}, {"response": 64, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (01:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 1, 1998 (01:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 66, "author": "isis", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (21:58)", "body": ""}, {"response": 67, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (23:34)", "body": "with an offer like that, how can I refuse? can you cook? and just cause I'm not talking doesn't mean I'm not watching..."}, {"response": 68, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (01:54)", "body": "?????? Good to see you back, Wer!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (01:58)", "body": "??????"}, {"response": 70, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (02:43)", "body": "What, ??????????"}, {"response": 71, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (09:51)", "body": "exactly!!! (I think...)"}, {"response": 72, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (12:07)", "body": "possibly!"}, {"response": 73, "author": "isis", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (22:31)", "body": "sorta like when you don't smoke cigarettes for awhile you start shaking and eating more than ususal,,,,what's it called,,oh yeah,,,WITHDRAWALS......"}, {"response": 74, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (23:13)", "body": "have NO idea what you're talking about now..."}, {"response": 75, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (00:08)", "body": ""}, {"response": 76, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (00:40)", "body": ""}, {"response": 77, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (01:39)", "body": ""}, {"response": 78, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (02:31)", "body": "it takes about three days to quit getting sick... as to the rest, ?"}, {"response": 79, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (04:30)", "body": "ha-ha!!! And what happens then? Then you're a smoker? Does it taste nice after that?"}, {"response": 80, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (04:56)", "body": "depends on the person... depends on the person... depends on what you're smoking..."}, {"response": 81, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (06:01)", "body": "I see!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (16:22)", "body": "so you don't smoke for the flavor, you just do it cuz of some psychosomatic need to bring on your own death in short order?"}, {"response": 83, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (16:59)", "body": "that's one of my biggest \"reasons,\" yes"}, {"response": 84, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (23:43)", "body": "Puffing away almost daily, here...can't help it, the weather's been too good. If it gets cold or humid I can't stand it. Damn El Nino!!! #@$%&!!"}, {"response": 85, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (02:10)", "body": "ha-ha!! hilarious business!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (10:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 87, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (03:03)", "body": ""}, {"response": 88, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (16:11)", "body": ""}, {"response": 89, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (02:24)", "body": "Apart from Isa's legs, my kids have absolutely NOTHING of me in their looks. Isa looks just like her dad, and Elza looks kind of Swedish with her white hair and blue eyes (Chris has very dark hair!). I once had tea with a Swedish guy in Namibia - about nine months before she was born!!! - and now I keep thinking: perhaps getting pregnant is easier than one thinks!!!"}, {"response": 90, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (11:37)", "body": "hahaha!"}, {"response": 91, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (21:40)", "body": "I am swearing off tea this instant. Back to espresso!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 11, 1998 (01:34)", "body": "Yuksies!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 12, 1998 (23:21)", "body": "i much rather take tea....tried cappucinno and, though it smelled good, tasted much differently. why is it that coffee smells better than it tastes?"}, {"response": 94, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (03:56)", "body": "That's just what I say! I just find it awfully bitter, even though I love the smell of coffee. Whereas I've not yet found a tea that doesn't taste better than it smells! My favourite is South African Rooibos."}, {"response": 95, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (10:54)", "body": "not all coffees are bitter, in fact I prefer the less acidic types..."}, {"response": 96, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (11:56)", "body": "do tell us non-coffee drinkers the best tasting, non-bitter coffee...."}, {"response": 97, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (22:32)", "body": ""}, {"response": 98, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (22:57)", "body": ""}, {"response": 99, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 17, 1998 (01:04)", "body": ""}, {"response": 100, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 17, 1998 (01:54)", "body": "I love it when you get so excited about technology - it's terribly sweet!"}, {"response": 101, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 17, 1998 (10:30)", "body": "it's printing in reverse now, Terry... have to get Kaylene to write the one to let you choose a number in a response box... you'd have to fix the \"future\" dates in order for the last month, etcetera calls to work..."}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 17, 1998 (13:36)", "body": "That rocks! Kaylene has a routine already that can be run to fix future dates. Call me this weekend and I'll get you set up on access. Awesome!!!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "ok, where can i try this kona stuff? do they sell it on the mainland? (ok, here in the bayous or anywhere close?)"}, {"response": 104, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (17:34)", "body": "You can buy it at any gourmet-style coffee place. It's VERY expensive (because those mules have to schlepp it down mountains with 20,000 foot altitude), so look for the little sample packages that only makes a couple pots."}, {"response": 105, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (08:43)", "body": ""}, {"response": 106, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (10:30)", "body": ""}, {"response": 107, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (14:34)", "body": ""}, {"response": 108, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (01:54)", "body": "Same here. Anybody been to Hawaii?"}, {"response": 109, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (13:45)", "body": "nope. one of my coworkers went in april. she said it was great!!"}, {"response": 110, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (14:53)", "body": "Never."}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (00:18)", "body": "Nope, never been. Ah, to lay on the beach in Maui and live in a grass hut."}, {"response": 112, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (00:22)", "body": "in a grass skirt?"}, {"response": 113, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (05:40)", "body": "eating grass?"}, {"response": 114, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (08:08)", "body": "eating poi (not as yummy as it sounds)"}, {"response": 115, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (00:22)", "body": "smoking grass."}, {"response": 116, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (05:58)", "body": ""}, {"response": 117, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (16:33)", "body": ""}, {"response": 118, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (20:52)", "body": ""}, {"response": 119, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (10:03)", "body": "did she have a holiday to go on?"}, {"response": 120, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (10:39)", "body": "That's what I'm thinking, she may be traveling."}, {"response": 121, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (13:10)", "body": "When was her sister due to visit?"}, {"response": 122, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (13:19)", "body": "by george! I think he's got it!"}, {"response": 123, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (13:33)", "body": "I hope it's curable..."}, {"response": 124, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (13:35)", "body": "Actually, I believe it's degenerative."}, {"response": 125, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (15:37)", "body": "i thought she was already there (when riette created a topic for her)....hmmmmm"}, {"response": 126, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Oct 14, 1998 (18:19)", "body": "give her a call if you like: (international access stuff) 041 382 1064"}, {"response": 127, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 15, 1998 (14:06)", "body": ""}, {"response": 128, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (04:32)", "body": ""}, {"response": 129, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (10:14)", "body": ""}, {"response": 130, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (12:02)", "body": "Hi, guys. I'm back too. I almost feel like I should ask for permission to come back, though - I feel so bad about having just taken off like that and stuff. I am truly sorry."}, {"response": 131, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (13:29)", "body": "does this mean that you need another spanking, Mistress?"}, {"response": 132, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (13:31)", "body": "Man, that's what I call a WARM welcome! I should dissappear more often!"}, {"response": 133, "author": "sonja", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (14:13)", "body": "Is this treatment not for first-timers then?"}, {"response": 134, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (14:17)", "body": "Sure, first timers get equal treatment."}, {"response": 135, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (14:25)", "body": "Yep, so grab your ankles..."}, {"response": 136, "author": "sonja", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (14:57)", "body": "LOL! I was thinking we could do it the other way around, perhaps?"}, {"response": 137, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (15:20)", "body": "So you want special treatment? OK, in your case, you can have it."}, {"response": 138, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 17, 1998 (01:48)", "body": ""}, {"response": 139, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 17, 1998 (01:52)", "body": ""}, {"response": 140, "author": "sonja", "date": "Sat, Oct 17, 1998 (08:35)", "body": "Hey, that's my special treatment, and mine only! Only I do the ordering! Back off, girl!"}, {"response": 141, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 17, 1998 (15:49)", "body": "Should've never let you on here."}, {"response": 142, "author": "sonja", "date": "Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (05:16)", "body": "Too late now, isn't it?"}, {"response": 143, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (05:36)", "body": "It's going to be ok, Ree!"}, {"response": 144, "author": "sonja", "date": "Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (09:53)", "body": "Yes, it's going to be okay, Ree!"}, {"response": 145, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (22:36)", "body": "She's back! Does this mean the Bronte conference is alive again? Item 63 entered Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (17:07) by Amy Wolf (amy2) I'm baaaccckk... Hi fellow Bronte fans -- it's me, Amy, your hostess, returned after many months of being away. Truth to tell, I couldn't find this Board until Mick kindly gave me the new URL. I think part of the confusion was that I had changed my e-mail address. So please check in & let me know you're still there! I hope we can continue your excellent discussions on the Bronte's lives & works. 1 new of 1 response total. Long live the Bronte sisters!!!"}, {"response": 146, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Oct 19, 1998 (03:39)", "body": "Hee haw!!! LONG LIVE THE BRONTES!!!!!"}, {"response": 147, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 19, 1998 (07:51)", "body": "Topic 63 of 63: 'I'm baaaccckk...' Resp 2 of 2: Mick Armitage (Mick1) Mon, Oct 19, 1998 (06:25) 1 lines Hi Amy, - Nice to see something stirring on this conference once again: when I re-discovered it, at its new URL, it was looking like a long-deserted ghost town! Now all we need is everybody else . . . Now, he's back. I hope Amy does a mail to the bronte ulist (list of folks who've visited the Bronte Sisters Conference with their emails, available to every host)."}, {"response": 148, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Oct 19, 1998 (07:51)", "body": "I can't decide if this is the right place or not, but no matter. I'm afraid that my time here is pretty cut down at the moment; work is piling up on me and to make a change I'm actually doing it and scoring some very good grades. I feel bad about not being around so much but I hope you understand...I will make an effort to drop by, probably two or three times a week for a short time. MIssing you all!"}, {"response": 149, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (12:17)", "body": ""}, {"response": 150, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (20:26)", "body": "it's gotta be the abundance of love..."}, {"response": 151, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (11:28)", "body": "Hmh."}, {"response": 152, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (18:24)", "body": "Not really sure of all the reasons I keep coming back here. I just do."}, {"response": 153, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (23:33)", "body": "It's like the Hole in the Wall. It just survives."}, {"response": 154, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 16, 2005 (20:01)", "body": "Like the bad penny, I keep turning up. Real life is Geo!"}, {"response": 155, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 16, 2005 (20:43)", "body": "You're a good silver dollar."}, {"response": 156, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 17, 2005 (18:11)", "body": "*Smile* That's nice to know. There are lots of silver dollars here. Spring is very special like that."}, {"response": 157, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Mon, Oct 17, 2005 (19:48)", "body": "Hmmm, I thought most of us were only \"short bus\" special..."}, {"response": 158, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 17, 2005 (22:26)", "body": "Need s bit of edifying before commenting on the qualities of being a \"short bus\" special..."}, {"response": 159, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2006 (19:54)", "body": "Like many of you... just don't know why I keep coming back but it's been over a decade now!!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2006 (07:23)", "body": "Well, hello, stranger!"}, {"response": 161, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 6, 2006 (11:59)", "body": "It has been over a decade. Some things just never change, though we keep changing. We're just a virtual bunch of Friends. I'm sure glad you and wer keep coming back."}, {"response": 162, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2006 (14:39)", "body": "Awww... warm hugs to you too! wer... my addy has changed since I looked you up but I posted it in inner awhile back... I lost yours in the deletion of the earthlink account... I'd love to hear how things are going!"}, {"response": 163, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2006 (13:36)", "body": "I'm hard at work on a big project now. http://web2.0slides.com and the slideshows at http://sportsked.com/slideshows/ I'm enjoying the hot summer in Texas, swimming and cycling a lot. We bought 12 plus more acres of land so we have 15 acres now. I'm working on recruiting some UT students to help me with this big slides project. I need testers too!"}, {"response": 164, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2006 (00:24)", "body": "Over a decade, wow, Stacey."}, {"response": 165, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (13:12)", "body": "(... feeling old) *grin*"}, {"response": 166, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (15:43)", "body": "It's pretty amazing in terms of Internet time that we've been here that long. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 43, "subject": "How's your connection to the Spring?", "response_count": 606, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (00:25)", "body": "Some days yes, some days no. I think a lot of it is on my end with a slow ISP, but sometimes the Spring just loads slowly--I notice it when I am FTPing to, not just when I'm on the boards."}, {"response": 2, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (09:17)", "body": "Last night (Thursday) I was unable to log on. The dialog box said \"timed out\". Maybe my ISP..but all the other websites were ok. It's erratic. (Didn't say erotic....maybe that too!!)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (09:38)", "body": "had trouble getting in last night too, got a message the computer couldn't connect to the server. Buuuuut, i tried the basic url ( http://www.spring.net ) and got in no problem."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (10:11)", "body": ""}, {"response": 5, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (13:01)", "body": "FTPing is slow right now--practically stuck (Noon Central time)."}, {"response": 6, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (16:43)", "body": "just curious...why is this in the Drool conference? :)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (01:32)", "body": "Cause I had so many emails and icq's from droolers the other night when we went down. And you are such a large, supportive group!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (02:18)", "body": "I always want to go to drool too, but I don't know much about actors, male or female, and I'm too lazy to start reading up on them. What a damned shame."}, {"response": 9, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (12:33)", "body": "(Charlotte) just curious...why is this in the Drool conference? :) This is one of those topics that is linked from it's original Conference (Porch) to Drool and responses appear in both places. Since we droolers often stay within the walls of this Conference, I think this is Terry's way of introducing us to the people who participate at other parts of Spring. Sounds like a good idea to me. (Terry) And you are such a large, supportive group! However single-minded we are ;-p (Riette) I always want to go to drool too, but I don't know much about actors, male or female Really? There is no actor you have a crush on? Come, come...fess up, who is it? ;-D We also do general celebrities (sports figures, musicians, men in the news, Historical Hunks). If you think of someone who does it for you, I'll be happy to start a topic and hunt down some photos to facilitate your drooling :-) Oh, incidentally Terry...my connection is just fine. Except for the times when Spring hiccups, I fly through the boards. I've even grown fond of the Yapp software (something I once thought I'd never get used to). Hope you never change it ;-)"}, {"response": 10, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (13:40)", "body": ""}, {"response": 11, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (16:50)", "body": "Charlotte Thanks for the explanation, guys! What a team! Come join us. Newcomers are always welcomed . (Riette) I always want to go to drool too, but I don't know much about actors, male or female Honey...on this board...you'll learn fast. Great fun. Hop on!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (00:36)", "body": "(especially if it's onto your favorite actor...)"}, {"response": 13, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (02:36)", "body": "Thanks Evelyn - just might!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (08:10)", "body": "Hmm, Riette hopping on to her favorite actor, now, there was an offer of posting photos and starting a topic but facilitating this would be pretty amazing, but Nan, Evelyn et al are very capable."}, {"response": 15, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (16:21)", "body": "Riette hopping on to her favorite actor, now, there was an offer LOL....See what I mean, Riette. #68, 97 & 98 are my favs..... Colin Firth..... but all are fun."}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (16:32)", "body": "oh, riette, david duchovny is there too! (guess who started that one *grin*)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (23:59)", "body": "Hop on it, girls."}, {"response": 18, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (06:07)", "body": "I'm not hopping onto anyone but Sean Connery and Anthony Hopkins - they give me the shivers, they're so sexy. Especially Anthony Hopkins. Hope I never get to meet him, I'll probably go into a coma or something!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (10:32)", "body": "LOL!!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (10:33)", "body": "You're my kind of woman, Riette! All my friends don't understand why I never want to meet Kevin. It's nice to know someone who does."}, {"response": 21, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (17:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 22, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (20:02)", "body": "You and I are the only ones on the planet with a fondness for Waterworld, Riette! He first caught my eye in Fandango, and has been getting better ever since."}, {"response": 23, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (20:43)", "body": "(Charlotte) You and I are the only ones on the planet with a fondness for Waterworld, Riette! I liked Waterworld (but, in truth, I've always felt it was because Kevin can do no wrong for me ;-D) It's not Bull Durham , but what is? ;-)~~~"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (20:59)", "body": "Hey, there's now 3 people on the planet who liked Waterworld, count me in! But I was far more interested in Jeanne Triplehorn (who also played in The Firm with Tom Cruise)."}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (23:56)", "body": "didn't see Waterworld..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (00:15)", "body": "Go rent it, KM! We need to start a movement here! I'm sure you'll like it, and then we'll have four people on the planet who liked it. :)"}, {"response": 27, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (01:39)", "body": "I loved it mostly because of the brilliant photography, and all those wonderful scrap metal contructions. Charlotte, Nan would you two like to come and join us in Art? I think (I hope) it isn't boring there, even for people who aren't 'into' art. There's even some art by Wer and Autumns daughters. Plus I promised Terry something very special in return for a sketch from him!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (01:52)", "body": "(Riette) Charlotte, Nan would you two like to come and join us in Art? I think (I hope) it isn't boring there, even for people who aren't 'into' art. Actually, I've already been...several times. I was going to jump into the American Impressionist conversation then I got sidetracked somehow :-/ Plus I promised Terry something very special in return for a sketch from him! And that would be...? ;-)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (02:14)", "body": "Go and see for yourself in the 'Let the fun begin' topic! No, it would be great to have you there too, Nan."}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (16:48)", "body": "Been a little 'disconnected' to the Spring... but here I am! How's the drooling going guys and gals?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (14:17)", "body": "Welcome back, Stacey! School back in session?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (01:44)", "body": ""}, {"response": 33, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (03:07)", "body": "I've had no problems this morning - and last night I was out, so I don't know if it will have worked then. I'll see how it goes from tomorrow night onwards though....tonight I'm out again! Cool, edgy, hip!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (16:27)", "body": "If we get any cooler, edgier and hipper I think I'm gonna throw up!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (17:35)", "body": "Roll down the window."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (23:23)", "body": "I'm down at the colocation site for the Spring and I just brought www back up. What an ordeal! I had a spare power supply to swap in but it didn't match the old one on this box. At least the connectors are different, and no soldering iron! Well, it's back together with bubble gum and bailing wire. It's not that bad, it's just the fan inside the power supply that I had to replace. And it's spinning now. And this server is running cooler. Check the time on this box and high tail it outa here. Captains Log, stardate 8/30/98 10:22 pm we are back on line after a brief interuption of about 20 minutes of moaning and groaning. You can resume normal activities now!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (02:34)", "body": "Thank you, cool guy!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (04:07)", "body": "I dunno... he sounded a bit more edgy to me!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (18:10)", "body": "Yep, more toward edgy on the proverbial edgy/cool continuum."}, {"response": 40, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (17:26)", "body": "I hope this posting goes through. I am testing. It went through on Topic 1 Introductions."}, {"response": 41, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (17:27)", "body": "Thank you....so far, so good. :-))"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (13:28)", "body": "I've asked William Roland (wer@spring.net) to set up Heidi and Karen as hosts of drool. Congratulations Heidi and Karen! I'm out of pocket so hopefully Wm. can do this sometime today. If not, I can get you set up with hostly powers later. But in the meantime, please correspond with wer@spring.net about this and he'll, hopefully, get in touch with you!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (17:34)", "body": ""}, {"response": 44, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (17:53)", "body": "anyone having browser problems might like to take a look at Opera - http://www.operasoftware.com"}, {"response": 45, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (19:23)", "body": "MSIE 4.0 was quite buggy and had problems with a lot of different applications. I installed 4.01 and have had no problems either here or anywhere else."}, {"response": 46, "author": "heide", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (20:50)", "body": "Thanks, Terry. Will get in touch with William to get the ball rolling."}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (20:59)", "body": "Great! And thanks so much Heide! New folks in apps: Topic 102 of 387: 'PIRCH' Resp 13 of 13: Solarboy (Solarboy) Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (04:12) 2 lines All the chat programs are similar or are they? l'm trying to find a relativly easy way of conversating. [102/387] Respond, forget, or pass? Item 263 entered Fri, Aug 9, 1996 (19:54) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry) I-View 1 new of 1 response total. Topic 263 of 387: 'I-View' Resp 1 of 1: Pierre R. Schwob (prs) Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (16:02) 5 lines This program isn't supported any longer (since 1996!) Please do not attempt to register for this shareware. Pierre R. Schwob PRS Corporation [263/387] Respond, forget, or pass? Item 381 entered Tue, May 5, 1998 (02:54) by Forrest H. Stroud (buzz) Microsoft Media Player 1 new of 2 responses total. Topic 381 of 387: 'Microsoft Media Player' Resp 2 of 2: John Tubbs (WhytKnyt) Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (17:26) 2 lines Version 6.0? The Microsoft download site says it's version 5.2."}, {"response": 48, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (00:41)", "body": "Heide, I'll change your host login from Heide to heide tomorrow... is Karen's login name all lower case as well?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (11:20)", "body": "Bill, I login as KarenR. Thanks."}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (16:09)", "body": "got it...will fix your and Heide's logins as soon as I can..."}, {"response": 51, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (17:22)", "body": "done...heide and KarenR are now hostesses..."}, {"response": 52, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (17:29)", "body": "If i may be so bold (and nosy) what happened to the old hostess?"}, {"response": 53, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (17:37)", "body": "Nan won the Powerball lottery and retired!! Just kidding. She's in graduate school and, with her work on cf.com, she needed to lighten up on her Drool responsibilities. Took two of us to replace her. :-)"}, {"response": 54, "author": "heide", "date": "Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (11:51)", "body": ""}, {"response": 55, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (21:04)", "body": "Hey, William...Terry...anybody home?? How's about setting Karen and Heide's passwords that they sent you for the sub-directories and setting up their email accounts. Karen has a real neat cover of Colin that we are all eager to see and she can't do it ....Youse' holdin' up the woiks.....:-)"}, {"response": 56, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (22:39)", "body": "Calling Terry now..."}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 8, 1998 (09:17)", "body": "wuz up?"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 8, 1998 (09:47)", "body": "See my note in the projects conference."}, {"response": 59, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Oct 8, 1998 (11:42)", "body": "Thanks Terry, William and Jeff. I have alerted Karen and Heide. Karen has pictures to scan and can't do it. Appreciate what you guys can do to install the new credentials. I am off to UK. See ya' at the end of the month."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 8, 1998 (14:18)", "body": "Have fun in the UK, say hi to Mike Griggs if you see him on the street there."}, {"response": 61, "author": "heide", "date": "Sun, Oct 11, 1998 (18:03)", "body": "Trying to get onto Topic 2, Terry, but I keep getting an internal server error or misconfiguration. Gee, is it just me? I also get the same message in Topic 34 but no problem anywhere else I've gone. Also, can you explain why Topic 98 doesn't show up in the Conference Center page? There is daily activity there but perhaps it's just me again."}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 12, 1998 (09:13)", "body": "I'll look in to these problems Heide, seems to be working ok today. You may just need to retry. Important information about the Y2K bug: Topic 7 of 9: Y2K or Year 2000 problem Sat, May 2, 1998 (09:22) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry) 1 new of 2 responses total. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic 7 of 9 [computer]: Y2K or Year 2000 problem Response 2 of 2: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Oct 11, 1998 (10:31) * 1 lines"}, {"response": 63, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (11:38)", "body": "Terry, According to the conference log, Topic 98 was \"retired\" by Myretta on 10/8. As a result, it does not show up on the main listing or for those of us who use \"new\" even if there are new comments. Can you undo this or will we need to start a new topic for Film Discussions, one of our most active? Also, has a subdirectory been set up for uploading pictures that we wish to link to the drool conference? A ~karen??? or ~heide???"}, {"response": 64, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (11:42)", "body": "Just decided to do a little testing myself and inadvertenly \"retired\" this topic. Sorry. :("}, {"response": 65, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (14:56)", "body": ""}, {"response": 66, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (15:15)", "body": "Moon, you can still read and post at 98. All \"retirement\" means is that it doesn't show up on the menu page."}, {"response": 67, "author": "casinosunrise", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (19:18)", "body": "new here, what do i need to know to be political,etc. not sure i understand the layout of the land. sounds interesting however want to listen and learn before jumping in ."}, {"response": 68, "author": "casinosunrise", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (19:24)", "body": "i took a left while looking to down load realaudio. looked interesting. looking to chat and moving around to see what's happening . loved the name moonbeam.....an intellectually sound decision."}, {"response": 69, "author": "casinosunrise", "date": "Tue, Oct 13, 1998 (19:33)", "body": "yo, just read \"macworld\", i don't have a mac. guess that's it guys. sorry i won't get to know the rest."}, {"response": 70, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Thu, Oct 15, 1998 (08:24)", "body": "According to the conference log, Topic 98 was \"retired\" by Myretta on 10/8. That's odd. I haven't done a hostly deed in months."}, {"response": 71, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Oct 15, 1998 (11:30)", "body": "Thank you cfadm whoever you are for resurrecting the topics. :) And Myretta, I always blame the mouse. ;-o"}, {"response": 72, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 15, 1998 (11:53)", "body": "Willliam most likely restored the topics. cfadm is the administrative account for Yapp."}, {"response": 73, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (04:42)", "body": "yep, it's all my fault..."}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (03:51)", "body": "This systems been running continually without crashing for 47 days now. We probably need to do a reboot just to let the processes clear out."}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 19, 1998 (08:22)", "body": "The floods have wreaked havoc with our net connection out of San Antonio, but it only seems to be affecting the Spring's subnet isdn connection so far. But there is major work going on at the colocation site to get the routing back to what it was before all the heavy weather. We're on a UPS but there may be outages due to the regions abnormal weather. Stay tuned."}, {"response": 76, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (14:34)", "body": ""}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (16:52)", "body": "Next time you come in it may. wer has some insights on this (email spew@www.spring.net)"}, {"response": 78, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (21:05)", "body": "actually, it's probably better to e-mail me at either rotazo@aol.com or kitchen_manager@juno.com or wer@spring.net (don't think you ever did a forward on spew@www.spring.net, or did you, Terry?)"}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (18:21)", "body": "You do have a forward file set up there now and it forwards spewmail to both hotmail and your other email acct but not to wer."}, {"response": 80, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (18:28)", "body": "It goes to Juno and Hotmail."}, {"response": 81, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (18:28)", "body": "Who at Hotmail? Should forward to AOL... not sure if I remember my Hotmail address and password..."}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (01:28)", "body": "Just log in to your account, and do a pico .forward and you can edit it yourself anytime."}, {"response": 83, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (19:40)", "body": "cool..."}, {"response": 84, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (06:52)", "body": "Usually, .forward files are setup like this: \\wer,wer@hotmail.com,wer@aol.com where the \\wer keeps a copy on the spring machine. If you set it up like this: wer@hotmail.com,wer@aol.com then no copy will be kept on the forwarding server and it will appear only on the hotmail and aol mail areas. We met Stacey last night at the coffee shop on the drag, she tried buzzing by Little Italy to snag you but no wer at Little Italy (happened to us the last time or two we came by there too). She looked good and seemed happy about her state of affairs in Colorado."}, {"response": 85, "author": "wer", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (00:48)", "body": "well, maybe next time..."}, {"response": 86, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (09:20)", "body": "I had one of the best talks ever with her that night. Who says meeting folks online makes you depressed and alienated. Knowing Stacey and the folks online here has enriched my life immeasurable and made for lifelong friendships. We have such a great core group of folks here, we can grow organically."}, {"response": 87, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (10:53)", "body": ""}, {"response": 88, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Jan 24, 1999 (16:06)", "body": "Several times today i've been disconnected from www.spring.net on telnet...a bit strange."}, {"response": 89, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 24, 1999 (19:43)", "body": "That is unusual. Wonder if it's your backbone. Our site had been up pretty regularly."}, {"response": 90, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Mar 21, 1999 (05:02)", "body": "I always use a Netscape browser to log in; whenever I logged in from home, it was nearly always an unhappy experience (long load times, every second attempt \"There's no response from the server...\", etc.), which is why sometimes there are two postings by me, too, it seems. Anyhow, right now it loads like a marvel, is fast and everything. Yall sleeping? better connection? Upgraded the ancient 386 to a 486DX100? You tell me. Meanwhile, I'll be happy (but for phone charges... checking in from home is hell, as they bill per minute...)."}, {"response": 91, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 22, 1999 (09:32)", "body": "Per minute! That sucks. Isn't there a flat rate provider in your area?"}, {"response": 92, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 24, 1999 (15:07)", "body": "Aren't I in Germany? Last one who tried was the first one who tried was the one who went floating down the river BELLY UP, my friend... I'll work on it. At least I got very good loading times today, too, and that from home."}, {"response": 93, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (01:43)", "body": "yipppeee!!! us, too, as we finally got AOL4.0 configured correctly on our new computer..."}, {"response": 94, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (13:09)", "body": "Congrats, Wer! You ARE the master! Me, too: we got this funky ISDN-adapter w/ analog ports for phones, etc., which I set up AND IT STILL WORKED FROM DAY ONE! Which suprised everyone, but most of all yours truly Alexander."}, {"response": 95, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (17:24)", "body": "champagne for everyone!"}, {"response": 96, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (21:17)", "body": "hey, Terry, in case anyone was wondering... this topic and the Spring as a whole...etcetera topics are no longer linked in drool... the topics are still there but they are no longer linked...my proposal is to start a more of the spring as a whole topic and freeze the two (or more?) existing ones... can probably kill this topic name in drool and re-link this one..."}, {"response": 97, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (21:30)", "body": "Sure, go fer it."}, {"response": 98, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (21:38)", "body": ""}, {"response": 99, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (22:14)", "body": "Boring. Lot's of waiting for others today. Mostly waiting on tenants to come up with rent money. Yesterday was far more productive, we got three rooms sheetrocked and only have two to go in my little country cottage. The Spring is facing a financial crisis of sorts. We're going to crank up the pledge drive here and in drool. The cause? thespring.com domain sale for $6k fell though because the buyer found a technicality in the contract they had me sign. I find myself financially challenged right now. Three room mates found new places in Cedar Creek, so I have 3 rooms to fill and not much time to find new folks. I only got a weeks notice instead of the usual 30 days. I watching the X Files now. Still waiting for Paul N to pay his bills, he and Sam have been keeping me waiting all day."}, {"response": 100, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Apr 5, 1999 (00:07)", "body": "oops...sorry, Boss!"}, {"response": 101, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Apr 5, 1999 (16:26)", "body": "sorry to hear all of this terry. i am busy nowadays but will do what i can to help."}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (05:57)", "body": "The good news today is that I filled up Quail Creek with some great folks. And even though I'm three rooms in the hole in Cedar Creek, I have the new airport going in next month which is just 15 minutes away from this house. I rented the last room in Quail last night to a waiter at a new restaurant on 360 called Pacifica. It's very upscale. He's going to get us in for free this weekend as part of their beta test. So short term, the Spring is hurtin' moneywise. Long term, there's hope. I'm hoping the pledge drive will take some of the sting out of our short term woes."}, {"response": 103, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (04:02)", "body": "i'm sorry terry....building an airport? damn!"}, {"response": 104, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (02:59)", "body": ""}, {"response": 105, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 7, 1999 (18:05)", "body": "feel better Karen?"}, {"response": 106, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (14:09)", "body": "oh, Alexander..."}, {"response": 107, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (14:15)", "body": "And now I could submit stuff again! I wonder why I couldn't before..."}, {"response": 108, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (14:43)", "body": "gremlins and furbys..."}, {"response": 109, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (19:13)", "body": "YEAH!!! Furbies are the business :-)) I saw a fifteen foot tall one in FAO Schwarz :)))"}, {"response": 110, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 11, 1999 (01:18)", "body": "little ones come with Happy Meals right now, too..."}, {"response": 111, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (00:10)", "body": "gremlins and furbys and wer! oh my!"}, {"response": 112, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (04:38)", "body": ""}, {"response": 113, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (04:58)", "body": "Oh, Werby, look! Terry changed the batteries in Rayby, too! Now I wonder who his third furby is... Could be Vurby, or mayby Wolfsby? Nah, don't think so. Perhaps Mikeby. But that doesn't ring that way, either... Ooooooh! I got it, it think! It's gotta be the incrediple le Plepby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Notice: Due to appropriate content, this message has also been posted here: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/screwed/156.34 )"}, {"response": 114, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (00:07)", "body": "as well it should be!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 10, 1999 (10:25)", "body": ""}, {"response": 116, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (11:07)", "body": "Any news when those two websites will be up and running?"}, {"response": 117, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (11:39)", "body": "Peter's working on it now. He found the problem, all the aliases were pointing to the same website and knows how to fix it, but he rebooted and it got hung up. So we have to call DDC.net and have them send someone to the colocate facility to physically reboot the access.spring.net server. He's going to call me when this is done. I just called John and he's going to be on the way soon. 10:37 am Austin time."}, {"response": 118, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (11:48)", "body": "Great, good news! Very happy to hear it! yoo hoo! Thousand women are thanking you too;)"}, {"response": 119, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (12:25)", "body": "The server's back up and I just left a message on Peter's voice mail. If you want to thank Peter personally for doing a great job as our extremely low paid system admin, here's his contact information: Peter Jensen 337086 Georgia Tech Station Atlanta, GA 30332-1715 404-206-1745 mailto://peter@diff.net"}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (13:01)", "body": "I will thank him again (He should recognize the lady from Hawaii by now!) It is good to keep important people who help Spring to flow smoothly well appreciated!"}, {"response": 121, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (13:30)", "body": "Terry, still can't get into austen.com. says connection to server could not be established."}, {"response": 122, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (13:52)", "body": "Nor to firth.com or either of the chatrooms."}, {"response": 123, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "Thank you Terry,Peter, Jacob, william and Ray from all of us who use these sites. Your efforts are appreciated."}, {"response": 124, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (23:09)", "body": "I am still having problems with Austen.com, but some people can get in and don't have a problem. I was able to connect using FTP, but not my browser. Is this one of those things which have to roll accross all the IP servers in the country? or is something else going on? Why can some people get in and not others?"}, {"response": 125, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (23:28)", "body": "Ann, firth.com and firth chat are both up, but I can't get into austen.com or your chat either."}, {"response": 126, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (23:41)", "body": ""}, {"response": 127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (23:45)", "body": "Ann, Terry did it while creating a bunch of new websites two days ago and only now are some things beginning to work. If you are ftp-ing to access.spring.net you will not succeed. I do not know whether the other www.spring.net works or not because my account is not there."}, {"response": 128, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (23:58)", "body": "Yes, www.spring.net works. I've been working in that throughout the outage, without any problem. Now if only we could settle on \"what our favorite colors are!\" ;-D"}, {"response": 129, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (00:09)", "body": "I am in telnet responding to your comment and will scrutinize what is in here I just think it would be bad form to mess with the owners' creations without first asking him about it. Any thoughts?"}, {"response": 130, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (09:30)", "body": "Please email any specifics of problems you're having with details to sysad@spring.net, which Peter and I read."}, {"response": 131, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (10:22)", "body": "And how about a big round of applause for Peter Jensen! He definitely came through and fixed our system. What a nice guy, and a rambling wreck to boot. peter@diff.net (for congratulatory emails)"}, {"response": 132, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (14:03)", "body": "I did and I did. Messages should be ready to read in one case and already read in the first. I am most grateful that you have Peter to help out. Now, if I could just get into my access.spring.net so I could post a few rock specimen...that would be perfect!"}, {"response": 133, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (14:05)", "body": "Poor Peter know what a one-loss feels like in a perfect football year, just as we Penn Staters do...*sigh*...my sympathies!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (15:00)", "body": "I just exchanged emails with Peter, and access.spring.net is back on line and files attainable. I sent the good news on to Wolfie. Thanks guys!"}, {"response": 135, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 13, 1999 (00:47)", "body": "Anyone else awake tonight and trying to ftp to access.spring.net? I can do it to the UHHilo web site I am supposed to be working on, but cannot here."}, {"response": 136, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Sat, Nov 13, 1999 (16:38)", "body": "I sent Peter and gracious thank you for all his hardwork. And want to thank ALL the system admins for their hardwork in getting all the servers in tip top shape! Thank you!"}, {"response": 137, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 14, 1999 (19:42)", "body": ""}, {"response": 138, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (10:25)", "body": "You should be able to ftp here, are you sure. Jill just ftped some stuff to her site on access. Are you set up on access.spring.net, Marcia?"}, {"response": 139, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (10:44)", "body": "Please, if you have time, email peter@diff.net and thank him profusely for the life saving job he did getting all our webservers back up and running. This rambling wreck deserves our highest praise and support!"}, {"response": 140, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (14:02)", "body": "Did profusely thank Peter and he emailed me a return note. Nice guy and a definite asset we should cultivate. I still can't login, so it is something I did wrong when I entered the UHHilo ftp site... Will work on it today. Thanks. Three Cheers for Peter!!!"}, {"response": 141, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (16:12)", "body": "Ok, I got all of my ftp sites separated and working individually again. *whew* That is more than a little scary since I had expert help setting up the first time and it was late at night when I am least likely to remember how to do it again should the need arise. Three Cheers for Marcia"}, {"response": 142, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Nov 18, 1999 (17:13)", "body": "I got this e-mail today. She had sent me one yesterday saying she was still having problems, and I asked her if she continues to have them. Are there still problems? (I blacked out part of her e-mail) --- Linda MacLachlan grand****@earthlink.net wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:16:22 -0500 From: Linda MacLachlan grand****@earthlink.net To: \"Ann of Austen.com\" dwguild@yahoo.com Subject: Re: off-line? Ann: Yes, I still have problems. when I click on my bookmark, Netscape says \"The server could be down or is not responding. If you are unable to again leter, contact the server's administrator. Using previously cached copy instead.\" [a copy last updated 11/7/99] When I click on the Fantasia Gallery, the Derbyshire Writers Guild Message Board or to \"find out what the dots are fore,\" I get nothing but the same message minus the last sentence. I miss not getting my virtually daily \"fix' from Derbyshire1 Linda grand****@earthlink.net Ann of Austen.com wrote: Linda, Are you still having problems? The site was down for a couple of days last week, But it should be back up. Unfortunately, it is hard to tell whether everyone can get in now, because they can't really say that they are *not* there. I don't know what could still be wrong, but I Would certainly look into it. Ann --- Linda MacLachlan grand****@earthlink.net wrote: I have been enjoying your Epilogue Gallery site For years, printing the stories when they finally finish. But I have Not been able to update the website since 11/7. What's wrong? Can I help? grand****@earthlink.net"}, {"response": 143, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 20, 1999 (21:08)", "body": "she should be able to get in now. All is back in worjking order, I understand."}, {"response": 144, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 20, 1999 (21:14)", "body": "...and I hope I either learn to type better or learn exactly when I am to use the \"Ok: stty erase\" when I telnet. Most frustrating!"}, {"response": 145, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (17:18)", "body": "Terry, there is definitely a problem out there. Possibly that named server situation and/or router problems. Some people can get in and many cannot. I've been in contact with our Drool bunch via our backup mailing service and encouraged them to try their ISP's other phone lines for alternative routing as worked for me (except for the austen.com areas). Do you need any other evidence than Marcia hasn't posted all day! ;-)"}, {"response": 146, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:29)", "body": "Everyone reading this, digihost screwed up our nameservers by submitting a premature change request to Network Solutions. Use ip addresses instead of domain names till it's fixed. http://206.97.234.70 will give you the names. http://206.97.234.91 is austen http://206.97.234.101 is firth Email me at springnet@visto.com during the nameserver crisis. I emailed digihost to fix it so we can resolve our names again but restoring our primary nameserver to ns1.spring.net at 206.97.234.70 and using one of their ip addresses for ns2.spring.net Some guy named mike@digihost.com iniated this boondoggle and I emailed him to fix it back."}, {"response": 147, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:57)", "body": "Emergency contact information during the nameserver crisis: My cellphone is 512-699-4000 My palm mail (which I carry around with me) is springnet@palm.net Austin 512 302 4000 Cedar Creek 512 303 4000 But the first two are the most reliable. I'm hoping mike@digihost.com realizes the havoc he's causing us by having sent in that nameserver change without talking to me first! It's really messing things up. Email as many folks as you can and let them know what's going on about using the http://206.97.234.70 and the other ip addresses for austen and firth, etc. Who needs a y2k crisis, right? We have our own little nameserver crisis."}, {"response": 148, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (21:06)", "body": ""}, {"response": 149, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (21:37)", "body": "I did for him, which you probay know by now..."}, {"response": 150, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (10:24)", "body": "Well, it's already been y2k out in the Pacific and Australia, and we're still talking! Happy New Millenium! Who among us will see y2k first? Any Australians in Drool?"}, {"response": 151, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (10:29)", "body": "Terry, there's a big contingent that still can't access Drool.Karen, Mari, Ann. Take a look at your email."}, {"response": 152, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (10:31)", "body": "Have you told them about ip addresses? Is it better today?"}, {"response": 153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (12:59)", "body": "My success today is much like yesterday. Telnet or nothing! Same with the others I have heard from. Gi from Portugal is unable. Discouraging."}, {"response": 154, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (13:00)", "body": "ip addresses don't work. The situation is dire....still the same. This is the message board that is being used ... http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb49898 Hope this is temporary. Is Anyone trying to rectify the situation? It seems to be geographic."}, {"response": 155, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (13:05)", "body": "I am sure Terry is on the new Server's tail with great vehemence and regularity. I can only use the numerical ip for telnet which is how I am posting this. Evelyn, you can still get in? Gi in Portugal and Tineke in Belgium are out of the loop as am I. Curious that Germany can get online."}, {"response": 156, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (13:33)", "body": "Yes, I can access fine and apparently part of UK can...Bethan posted yesterday, but Ann W. cannot. Neither can Karen...who even went to the library computers and still could not access Spring. Argggggg"}, {"response": 157, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (13:55)", "body": "I cannot understand how Karen got online at Spring yesterday by using a different local phone number for connection....perhaps coincidence. It willl be interesting to hear the whole story in retrospect - the sooner the better. It is fun to telnet, but nothing as good as webbing."}, {"response": 158, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Jan 1, 2000 (18:25)", "body": "Is the new server in Florida having any success getting the Drool problem resolved? No one still can get in except me, Terry. Do you think they are *trying*? Or is nobody home?"}, {"response": 159, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Jan 1, 2000 (20:19)", "body": ""}, {"response": 160, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 1, 2000 (20:37)", "body": "I'd like to know Evelyn's secret - and Heide's from this morning when she got on. I am still relying on the magick of telnetting...*sigh*"}, {"response": 161, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (19:27)", "body": "hi! i'm one of the volunteer system admins for the Spring, and have been away for awhile on other projects. i've caught up with the situation here and just wanted to let everyone here know that we are trying to resolve all of the connection problems as quickly as possible. unfortunately, our problems are with domain name servers. this is unfortunate, because dealing with the powers behind domain name servers means dealing with many persons and many layers of bueracracy. i think that perhaps most of our problems should be solved by the middle of January. worst case scenario would be the end of January, but i doubt that very much. anyway, i hope all of you will understand and hang in there with us until this problem gets resolved. i'll try to do what i can to help terry and hopefully we'll be back online soon."}, {"response": 162, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (19:44)", "body": "Thanks loads, Ray! We needed you to ride in for moral and tech support for Terry. He needs all the help he can get at this point!"}, {"response": 163, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "Does anyone know why we have topic 107 and 124 which appear to be duplicates?"}, {"response": 164, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (10:04)", "body": "I don't know about that topic issue. But on the domain issues, we are dealing mainly with a new provider and they have assigned one person to help us who is mike@digihost.com and he reports to ceo@digihost.com. We just have to get in synch with these folks and work out the details and we'll be able to get up and running at the new home. I had planned on colocating at Springfield for a year but they backed out till March on this deal, so we'e moving to Digihost. They run on BSDI 4.1 which is much more up to date than the BSDI 2.1 which www.spring.net runs on now. I really appreciate your help and support in getting in touch with this situation Ray! Please feel free to jump in to the process and raise issues and add action items to our migration checklist."}, {"response": 165, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (12:38)", "body": "Thank you Ray and Terry for the updates on the Spring relocating status...it helps to know that someone is out there fending for us. As Lizzy would say:\"We shall endure it as best as we can\"... :-)"}, {"response": 166, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (17:05)", "body": "wheres the migration checklist, terry.\b?"}, {"response": 167, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (22:57)", "body": "I'll work one up, the main priority now is just ftping everything on our servers over to the new location and getting the domain names moved. The we can start testing."}, {"response": 168, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (04:01)", "body": "I got in to our new server locaton a while ago and ftped the main page over there, which still points to the confernces on our old server. I set it up so folks can get in to drool but there are still times when you have to type 206.97.234.70 in place of www.spring.net, it's the penalty we're paying for me not paying enough attention to relative html coding."}, {"response": 169, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (12:14)", "body": "Don't worry about it...Hindsight is always 20-20 It all a learning process and I am happy to find you are mortal after all!"}, {"response": 170, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (17:58)", "body": "Ray, you live? Good thing, I'd say, especially now Terry needs as much help with the stuff as he can get (which is, BTW, exactly MY situation here, too... Can't handle the workload with the number of people available for this project. Will be an interesting ride, I daresay...)."}, {"response": 171, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (18:03)", "body": "Hang on tightly, Alexander. I am rooting for you!"}, {"response": 172, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (00:00)", "body": "I still can't get in to Austen.com and it's been three days now. Most other people don't seem to be having a problem, but my ISP can't seem to be able to find it. When I use the IP# (206.97.234.93), I get Bruce Sterling's page, which I know is on the same machine. I can FTP in, but the way the site works, I can't do much with that. I'm going through withdrawl!!!!"}, {"response": 173, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "Tell me about it...Poor dear! Have you tried telnetting, Ann? I just tried and cannot get onto austen.com that way - or I do not know how to (which is more than likely the case). I do not know what to suggest other than to wait out the drought till Terry gets back from his sad duties in California."}, {"response": 174, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (19:34)", "body": "I can get telnet://206.97.234.93 to work but it does not like my login or password. I think it is because access is still down. My ftp to access still does not work....and it is not much help in reading things there...or other things you do to keep DWG and all that up and running...! *sigh*"}, {"response": 175, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (21:23)", "body": "I do have FTP access to 206.97.234.93, but I can't really do much with that. I can read some of the messages, but I can't participate on the boards and I can't chat :( I actually went to work today to use the computers there. I needed to do some archiving of stories, and the only way to get them was to log on from there."}, {"response": 176, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (07:29)", "body": "Access is still up at http://206.97.234.73 . If you telnet there, you can then cd to the austen.com area at /www/austen.com. Ann, I want you and everyone to have access. This week, we're going to move the whole site to our new dns servers, so I'll be setting up new user accounts on the new server. Please make sure your sites, like austen.com and firth.com are backed up on your local machines, I've got www.spring.net running on the new server now, except the conferencing and I've got emails in to Kaylene Thaler ( mailto://kaylene@armidalesoftware.com ) and Ray ( mailto://ray.lopez@mindspring.com ) about getting this done. Later today, when it's a more decent hour, I plan on calling Ray and Kaylene. Feel free to call me on my cell phone at 512-699-4000 to talk about any migration issues with spring.net or your sites. I'll try and make this as painless as possible. Send me email to either springnet@visto.com, terry@spring.net or to my Palm Pilot at springnet@palm.net. Let's stay in touch as closely as possible and get this done as painlessly as possible. I'd like to hear from as many of you as possible directly during this transition and for as many of you as possible to get directly involved in the hands on work of making this move. We can get it done and move on and things will get much easier. I won't have to babysit hardware any more and we'll be able to concentrate more on the real creative work of getting our sites looking good and attracting more folks to our community."}, {"response": 177, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (07:33)", "body": "This is our dns table as it exists now: 206.97.234.71 http://www.spring.net ns2 206.97.234.72 206.97.234.73 http://access.spring.net 206.97.234.74 http://www.childrenstory.com 206.97.234.75 http://www.repeater.org 206.97.234.76 http://www.golftravel.net 206.97.234.77 pointer from barton 206.97.234.78 http://www.minds.org 206.97.234.81 http://www.janhooks.com 206.97.234.82 http://www.thechildrens.com 206.97.234.83 http://www.webarter.net 206.97.234.85 points to www.spring.net 206.97.234.86 http://www.wonderbee.com 206.97.234.87 http://www.clearminds.com 206.97.234.88 http://www.texasequityloan.com 206.97.234.90 http://www.motorblade.com 206.97.234.91 http://www.austen.com 206.97.234.92 http://www.divecruise.com 206.97.234.93 http://www.brucesterling.com 206.97.234.94 http://www.starlust.com 206.97.234.95 http://www.eatsolar.com 206.97.234.96 http://www.guadalupestreet.com 206.97.234.97 http://www.lamarboulevard.com 206.97.234.98 http://www.congressavenue.com 206.97.234.99 http://www.burnetroad.com 206.97.234.100 http://www.researchboulevard.com 206.97.234.101 http://www.firth.com 206.97.234.102 http://www.silkcloth.com 206.97.234.103 http://www.suzyamis.com 206.97.234.104 http://www.roxburyguys.com 206.97.234.105 http://www.teachai.com 206.97.234.106 points to access.spring.net 206.97.234.107 http://www.lifespaces.com 206.97.234.108 http://www.ratthing.com 206.97.234.109 206.97.234.110 http://www.bioregion.com 206.97.234.111 next available ip address"}, {"response": 178, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (07:45)", "body": "Also, check the bottom of http://206.97.234.70 as I'll be posting bulletins there."}, {"response": 179, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (11:10)", "body": "Terry, I tried that IP for Austen.com, and it didn't seem to work. The network couldn't find it. The site seems to be working though, and I'm able to get onto it from work--just not from home through my browser. Do you have any idea why I haven't been able to get through using Netcom for the last 5 days?"}, {"response": 180, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (14:32)", "body": "Thanks for the list, Terry. I'm gonna print the whole thing out so I can reference it easily. (Ann, My son is on netcom in California and it is a little capricious since it was purchased by mindspring.)"}, {"response": 181, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Jan 18, 2000 (20:05)", "body": "Am back now, Terry. A few questions: What about my files at www.spring.net/~KarenR ? Will I be able to FTP my files to the new servers using the same logon and password? Karen"}, {"response": 182, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (07:44)", "body": "I'm still locked out! Why!?!?"}, {"response": 183, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (08:27)", "body": "When I try to FTP into spring.net, it says the password is not valid. Help!"}, {"response": 184, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (12:53)", "body": "Guess they are ftp'ing the stuff to the new ISP and it is currently not receiving input. Curiously, I have not been able to ftp since December 30th..."}, {"response": 185, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (21:44)", "body": "I can't get to my www.spring.net/~anneh account either, Karen. Same problem as you. It's been that way for a couple weeks now. Still locked out of Austen.com. That makes 6 of the last 7 days I haven't been able to get in."}, {"response": 186, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (22:42)", "body": "Yes, I know. I haven't had access to my directory/files since 12/30 either. But when I read the messages about having to get our files off the old server and to FTP them to the new site, thought I'd bring it up again."}, {"response": 187, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (23:40)", "body": "That password invalid is the only error message they have when the other end is inaccessable. My telnet gets the same response if I try to enter with the old URL. Terry and his cyber-guys must be about ready to tell us something...I hope!"}, {"response": 188, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (09:23)", "body": "That password invalid is the only error message they have when the other end is inaccessable. My telnet gets the same response if I try to enter with the old URL. Terry and his cyber-guys must be about ready to tell us something...I hope! Hey, yep. Me and my cyber-guys, hey, cool it guys, I'm talking, are gonna spill da beans. You need to ftp or telnet to 206.97.234.73 which is access.spring.net, then do this command via telnet or ftp: cd /www/austen.com Likewise, cd /www/firth.com All the files are there. You can ftp them to your local machine using something from http://www.stroud.com like ws ftp or one of the other ftp programs. Then, email or call (512-699-4000) me and request a username and password on the new system. Let me know who is going to strawboss this move, Ann, Karen or ??? and then I will get with them and they will dictate the date and time of the actual switchover to the new site for firth and austen. Now, the www.spring.net/~anneh files should still be in place, at 206.97.234.70/~anneh. They're in /usr/home/anneh if you need to use the full directory path. The web files all being in public_html of course. Don't hesitate to email me, call me (512-699-4000 I love to talk to you guys), or invite me to your chat room to discuss any issues."}, {"response": 189, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (09:47)", "body": "Terry, My files are NOT associated with firth.com or austen.com nor were they on the access server. Ann is in charge of austen.com and Renate is in charge of firth.com My files were/are in: www.spring.net/~KarenR and support Drool and my Bucket site within the confines of Spring. (1) Do I need to move those myself or have you moved them already? If so, where are they now? (2) I will email you my logon and password. (3) I use WS-Stroud's FTP program, but it can't get into my files. Do I need to change the path from Spring to the numeric? And I'm assuming that is the old Spring vs. the new Spring, which will be using the domain name."}, {"response": 190, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (12:36)", "body": "Terry, I tried numeric and KarenR done every which way but loose. Can't get there via the web or via FTP. Login fails. Karen"}, {"response": 191, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (13:02)", "body": "(I'm working with Karen on this right now via landline)."}, {"response": 192, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (14:00)", "body": "(Good, because the URL and the IP yeild the same cannot login results here, too for access.spering.net ftp.) Terry has the cutest and neatest cyber-guys on the planet. If they can't do it, it can't be done!"}, {"response": 193, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (15:08)", "body": "Terry, I sent you and e-mail about a week ago with the info for the Austen tech people. I'm the one who will supervise the whole Austen.com site, so if you could send me the new password to dwguild@yahoo.com, I'd appreciate it. Though I can get on to Austen.com at work, I am STILL locked out at home. WHY??? It's been a week now (except, mysteriously for one day when I was able to get through). Is this an ISP problem or a DNS problem or what? I am getting reports of others having the same problem too."}, {"response": 194, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (15:25)", "body": "You need to ftp or telnet to 206.97.234.73 which is access.spring.net, then do this command via telnet or ftp: } Nope. That doesn't work, Terry. I get a \"Cannot find server\" message when I try to FTP or Telnet. Now I can FTP into 206.97.234.93, and move over into the Austen.com folders, but I really need to be able to get there through my browser too!!!"}, {"response": 195, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "I got into Austen.com from my home computer--finally. Of course, I was able to get in for one day over the weekend too, only to be locked out again."}, {"response": 196, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (17:05)", "body": "Any secret you care to share on how you got in today? I am still in the same holding pattern...but I know they are straightening out momumental messes in Austin and I will not add to their problems...!"}, {"response": 197, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (17:56)", "body": "Don't know why I got in. I have also been able to access my files in the www.spring.net/~anneh folder. I FTP to 206.97.234.70, log on using ID: anneh and my usual password. I'm in the process of downloading all my files from there to back them up."}, {"response": 198, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (18:41)", "body": "Praise be, as they say. And you have a bunch to download! I trust Geo will go over as one of those tarballs Ray is making and my files on access.spring.net will as well. I keep files backed up but only as word files. My image files are url files and I can recreate them if necessary. Goodness, the things we learn which we never anticipated needing to know...!"}, {"response": 199, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (23:04)", "body": "I've downloaded just about everything except the messages on our message boards. Don't know how I'm gonna transfer them. Also, the archives of the Guild is rather huge, and at 28KB/Sec, it would take a long time to transfer. If that can be tarballed too, and sent over a quick connection, it would help."}, {"response": 200, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (23:52)", "body": "Ann, I read what they were saying Unix conference about moving this stuff. They might have as well been discussing brain surgery in another language. But, they knew what they meant which I find impressive and daunting at the same time! There is a great deal more to this than a simple Move...picking up a computer, put it in the car and move it across town to another place and plug it in. Not that easy, I guess!!!"}, {"response": 201, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 21, 2000 (10:03)", "body": "Marcia send me detailed email on what you need regarding your account setup and password, etc on the new server. Everyone, email or call me with any such similar needs, if you need to get set up on the new system. Ray, how's the tar stuff coming along? We also need to get the new hosting folks to set up a cfadm user and maybe do some of the things Kaylene suggested. We're racing to get this done before ddc puts the hammer down on us again."}, {"response": 202, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 21, 2000 (14:41)", "body": "Just sent you two emails to visto address the first with my minimal needs and the second with my username and password which was in use before. Feel free to augment or alter at will and let me know what the new ones are. Anything else?"}, {"response": 203, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (15:54)", "body": ""}, {"response": 204, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (16:41)", "body": "Terry, I sent you an email at your briefcase account with my needs for accessing the new server. What's the timetable for getting off this server? I need to know as copying all my files to my hard drive is a slow process...but I am making progress! ;-) Karen"}, {"response": 205, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (16:51)", "body": "I'm in again. Was only out for about 4 hours this time."}, {"response": 206, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (18:25)", "body": "Ann and I talked on the phone, so now I have austen.com running temporarily at http://www.spring.net/austen and I got the new site in motion. It should be ready for prime time in a couple of days. Ann, wish we could send you some of this warm air!"}, {"response": 207, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (23:31)", "body": "Colinfirth.com and austen.com look lovely and familiar. Now, if only the stuff I work with would come back. Alas, access.spring.net is at the bottom of the list for getting things done, I figure....not as important, I guess. And, I guess I understand. It's ok....I'll be here doing my thing even if no one can see what I put up or stuff like that...I'm used to it. I'm the little kid on the Spring and I gotta wait my turn...thank you in advance for your help..."}, {"response": 208, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (23:32)", "body": "Would it be helpful if we stopped posting on Spring?"}, {"response": 209, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (10:27)", "body": "No, keep posting. Life should go on as usual. I'll keep setting up accounts on the new system as folks need them."}, {"response": 210, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (10:29)", "body": "I'll set up a directory called marcia so you can work there. The url will be http://www.spring.net/marcia"}, {"response": 211, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (10:44)", "body": "Terry, Have you set me up on the new system yet? I have downloaded ALL my files and am ready to send them over whenever you give me access. I sent you an email with the particulars. Karen"}, {"response": 212, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (10:56)", "body": "I'm working on it today and tomorrow. Folks who set up web pages should use *relative* references not *absolute* references and base href tags in the header of the html document. I just did a bit of editing on http://www.spring.net/firth because it uses absolute references (not recommended!). If you don't understand absolute vs. relative refererences, please go to one of the many great html tutorials on the web and to our web conference to the appropriate topic. I'll be happy to discuss this most important issue further. For an example look at the base href tag at the beginning of the index.html file on http://www.spring.net/firth/index.html It's the difference between working and not working, and you can get a lot of stuff on the old site to keep working by using these relative tags. And then when you don't need the old site, you just change the base href tag. I have given permission to Myretta to grant access to any authoring type folks who need ftp access to the site. I'll try and make this as effortless as possible, but there may be painful moments in the next week or two. After that, it should be smooth sailing again."}, {"response": 213, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (11:21)", "body": "Thanks, Terry. I know this is an educational experience as well as a nusiance. All of us little strugglers trying to become cyber-smarter the least painful way appreciate your making the transition as smooth as possible. Big *hugs* for your patience and perseverence."}, {"response": 214, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (11:52)", "body": ""}, {"response": 215, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (11:56)", "body": "It just finished and it found 271 occurences of the phrase http://www.firth.com in 74 pages. Mind you, these changes were only made on the little backup mirror site at http://www.spring.net and not on the main site http://206.97.234.101 where firth.com lives. I did change one file there in the afirthionado directory called afi.htm I believe so folks could still get to the chatroom. I'll be glad when we get everything moved. I'm about to set the austen.com in motion, so folks that need access be sure to email me (terry@spring.net and springnet@visto.com) and/or call me (512-699-4000) with their desired usernames and passwords."}, {"response": 216, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Jan 23, 2000 (16:34)", "body": "Terry, I couldn't get into the new www.spring.net via FTP. Access denied. When I checked the url http://www.spring.net/KarenR says does not exist. Isn't that the area you set up for me?"}, {"response": 217, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (10:49)", "body": "I'll set this up again. For the folks working on the new austen.com, the ip address is going to be 208.171.121.122. It has FrontPage 2000 extensions, RealAudio, SSL, Webtrends, MySQL. All the Internic stuff has been performed. The above is important technical information, please make note of it."}, {"response": 218, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (12:00)", "body": "Terry: I have set up an account for you there. I will set it up again using all lower case instead of upper and lower. Email me so I can reply with the details. ~~~~ Terry, I emailed you twice yesterday. You can reply with the details. However, that server doesn't recognize me."}, {"response": 219, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "Terry, the old Austen.com IP doesn't seem to work. (206.97.234.91). Wonder why."}, {"response": 220, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (14:58)", "body": "Terry posted above: For the folks working on the new austen.com, the ip address is going to be 208.171.121.122."}, {"response": 221, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "I'm home now, Ann, I've been out in the field all day and I'll resolve this access problem you have and probably give you a buzz tonight."}, {"response": 222, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (19:39)", "body": "http://208.171.121.122 is working pretty much, I may have gotten all the files over this morning except the derbyshire ones, and I'm ftping the files in the derby directory now. I'll have to check, but I may have inadvertently put some of these derby files in /usr/home/auste3/virtual_html/ instead of /usr/home/auste3/virtual_html/derby"}, {"response": 223, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (19:41)", "body": "Hey, http://www.austen.com just came up for me without typing the ip address, and I'm on a Time Warner (not spring.net) connection. Are other folks seeing it also?"}, {"response": 224, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 24, 2000 (20:00)", "body": "Yes, Terry, it comes up for me using http://www.austen.com"}, {"response": 225, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (00:06)", "body": ""}, {"response": 226, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (02:05)", "body": "Will you be having a new site when the old one is working so well, or does it still have to be moved? I thought all of your stuff was moved firthst!"}, {"response": 227, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (09:40)", "body": "You can tell when you're on the new site when it says at the botom of the page of http://www.austen.com : New Site Last Updated 1/25/00 If it doesn't say this, you're on the old site which just says \"last updated\"."}, {"response": 228, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (09:52)", "body": "Terry, I cannot get into the new site. I have sent you details via email. Could you please look into it and then answer. Karen"}, {"response": 229, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (14:17)", "body": "It does say New Site Last Updated 1/25/00 Thanks!"}, {"response": 230, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (19:08)", "body": "The http://austen.com address for me now refers to the new site, and it seems to be working great! Any news on when the old computers will go down? I want to know if there is a deadline for when all files must absolutely either be moved or backed up off the old computer."}, {"response": 231, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (19:55)", "body": "ok, www.austen.com shows a last update of 9/5/99 *frown* for me..... i am completely confused. terry thanks for your never ending patience with us! *HUGS* i tried getting to access using the ip to see if my site was up and i get an error page. i can wait, just wanted to let you know *grin*"}, {"response": 232, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (19:56)", "body": "but....on austen.com, i used the hyperlink to the new site and that worked and i got the right update date! *smile*"}, {"response": 233, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (20:26)", "body": "Wolfie, try it without the www next time..."}, {"response": 234, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (20:32)", "body": "...for austen.com, that is. My stuff on Spring is not yet available, either. But, that's ok. I can wait."}, {"response": 235, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (20:50)", "body": "thanks! *grin*"}, {"response": 236, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (20:50)", "body": ""}, {"response": 237, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (23:34)", "body": "Is there an agreement between Spring and Barnes and Noble?"}, {"response": 238, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (23:56)", "body": "Ann, not that I am aware of. I just hunted through the main page and the welcome pages where all of the links are and I see nothing for them. Just Amazon.com."}, {"response": 239, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (08:26)", "body": "On the front page, in the Spring Shopping Mall area, there is a link to B&N. That's why I was wondering. There are actually two links there which go to B&N, both \"Books\" and \"Barnes and Noble\"."}, {"response": 240, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (10:32)", "body": "I would like to get our conferences and everything moved on spring, austen, firth and all our other sites by the end of the month to save another months enormous cost at our present site. There is even the possibility we could get \"turned off\" at the old site. I need help from Ray and anyone else with Unix expertise to move the conferences to the new site and then work with Kaylene in getting them running again. Time is getting tight, for sure. I think most of austen is moved and the chat room seems to work. I added a few minor embellishments on the new Austen page just so folks would see something \"new\" there and know which page they were on. I edited the word \"editting\" so it's now \"editing\", how's that for some editing! If anyone's offended by these changes, please change them back. I was just playing, honest! New user accounts are available if you email me or anyone else who has admin access at the new site, like Ray, Myretta and Ann. We can expand our admin team. The new sites all have quite a few features we haven't had, the Front Page 2000 extensions are more up to date, there are ecommerce options, there are database capabilities with MySQL, and there are quite a few options for dynamic effects and plug ins (I put a counter at the bottom of the new Austen page, again, feel free to nuke it if this offends anyones sensibilities.) But the key job now is Ray's, getting the conferences moved by tarring them and untarring them on to the new server, they are all located in /usr/bbs. And I have to move all these sites: atlantea.com larainenewman.com bioregion.com love30.com midnightwolf.net tcares.org brucesterling.com miniaturebooks.com teachai.com motorblade.com mustardbath.com tvreviewer.com cooltoys.net mysticalplaces.com tvshows.com eatsolar.com poolgoods.com wearfree.com energywork.com ratthing.com wholetech.com workontheweb.com saveseed.com silkcloth.com The cost of moving each site averages $50. The cost of staying one more month at ddc.net is at least $800. And I'm losing some names right now to lack of payment. So I want to keep the pledge drive going. There may never be a time in the Spring's history when we need funds more than now. This is a very pivotal time for us."}, {"response": 241, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (11:17)", "body": "I decided to go ahead and tar and move the conferencing right now, all our conferences are now being tarred and then I'll move the tar file over and untar it to a new directory on the new server. Then deal with issues of permisssions, administrative ownership, etc. I got on the phone to Dave Thaler just now (he's the author of Yapp) and discussed this process. I'll do it one step at a time. So whatever is posted from now on, including this post, will not show up at the new conferences. We're movin' on!"}, {"response": 242, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (11:19)", "body": "Acutally, since it's tarring in alpha order, the above post may show up on the new site, it's on drool now and moving along alphabetically through all the conferences. It looks like this on my screen: ./confs/drool/_34.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_39.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_51.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_46.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_53.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_59.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_67.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_107.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_68.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_72.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_93.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_97.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_98.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_99.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_127 ./confs/drool/_102.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig ./confs/drool/_104.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig.orig"}, {"response": 243, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (11:30)", "body": "It's still tarring."}, {"response": 244, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (00:46)", "body": "It's done, and now 5 days later, we're up and running on the new site."}, {"response": 245, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (04:21)", "body": "Congratulations, Terry & all who participated in the transfer. Ah, the clean fresh air on the new server!"}, {"response": 246, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (09:33)", "body": "Great Terry! Congrats that everything seems to be working. Now, how do we get our Drool page layout back? I know these icons are standard on the other conferences, but we'd like our cool waters and coordinated buttons. How can this be done? Karen"}, {"response": 247, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (09:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 248, "author": "lafn", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (11:52)", "body": "Brighter colors, faster access or is it my imagination. I 'm going to like the new territory.Thanks all ."}, {"response": 249, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (13:32)", "body": "Thanks, I'm surprised we're not getting more glitch reports. I'm ecstatic that we're running on the new server and folks accounts are working. It wasn't easy, it took Mike's system admin efforts, Kaylenes programming skill and your contributions to make this all work. It really was a concerted, team effort and I'm very grateful for everyone's help. We really pulled together this time. I'm going to defer to William (wer) on the Yapp stuff, as he's built up most of this, I called him last night and gave him admin access so he can work his magic on the new place. Email William, Karen, if you will. I clicked the button in FrontPage 2000 for brighter colors. FP2000 is a double edged sword, it makes it easy for newcomers to generate web pages but it messes with already constructed pages sometimes. It's our unruly uncle in the basement. Whew! We made it! Now I've got to move all those other domains and then shut down the servers. Make sure you save stuff you need off the old servers!"}, {"response": 250, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (16:14)", "body": "I like the way it downloads with a scrolling action instead of the entire thing showing up after a long pause as in the old server."}, {"response": 251, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (16:20)", "body": "I am a patient person. I definitely will defer to William on all things Yapp that I do not feel competent enough to handle - including most of the esthetic things on Geo. Now, if I could only get into my files... Probably just as well I cannot as I most assuredly would mess them up if I could right now! I am grateful to all who labored (and it is seriously draining mental labor) on our behalf to make this place a reality again."}, {"response": 252, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (17:59)", "body": "Is it a fact that posting using the old ip will render your post null and void? Maggie is posting several places and they are not showing up on the URL topics. Be aware you must be using the www.spring.net URL to have your responses posted. I think..."}, {"response": 253, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (18:09)", "body": "Things are getting posted at numeric Spring (old Spring), but they will not get moved over here. What's here is here. What's there now, will go down the proverbial drain when the plug is pulled...unless someone manually copies and pastes from there to here. All cleared up?"}, {"response": 254, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (20:10)", "body": "Yep, that's it Karen, the old server will be up for another day or two, maybe longer, so copy and paste whatever you need. But don't bother posting on the old system, just post here using the domain name."}, {"response": 255, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (20:23)", "body": "Gotcha! But lots of people are posting the new/old-fashioned way...*sigh*"}, {"response": 256, "author": "heide", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (20:58)", "body": "It's hard to get the word out. We're missing posts, btw, but I can live with it. I just added Topic 128 to take over for crowded 123 on the old site (sorry) and it didn't carry over but since we're 100 postings fewer on 123 here no need to start up another just yet."}, {"response": 257, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (21:08)", "body": "Part 6? Yessssssssss!"}, {"response": 258, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (23:38)", "body": ""}, {"response": 259, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (00:41)", "body": "Incredible. Amazing. And, more than a little confusing for some!"}, {"response": 260, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (00:44)", "body": "The only thing I have noticed that Geo lost was topic 26 which I re-created."}, {"response": 261, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (09:00)", "body": "I got this e-mail today: Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 03:38:49 PST Dear Ann, I am still unable to get into Austen.com. In fact I am unable to get into www.spring.net as well. Am I the only one from outside the US (I'm from Malaysia) who is unable to get into these sites? This is very frustrating. I cannot figure out why this is. My husband thinks that it could be because of the new 128-bit connection available in new sites in the US which is not available outside the US is the cause. I am completely clueless about this. Appreciate any assistance you may render. If not, this is just an end of nearly 2 years lurking and enjoying all the stories posted in DWG, Novel Idea & Drool. If I am unable ever to get into these sites again, can you please convey my heartiest appreciation to all the authors in DWG & Novel Idea for their creative and most entertaining writing. cheers, sheriMD"}, {"response": 262, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (09:11)", "body": "Ann, Is there some way of contacting her? Her email address? Thanks for passing it on. Karen"}, {"response": 263, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (11:07)", "body": "Karen, I forwarded her e-mail to you."}, {"response": 264, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (22:49)", "body": "Resp 262 of 263: Marcia (MarciaH) Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (17:56) 2 lines Good...but I think we are back to old Spring right now...and I am telnetting so this will also disappear... Topic 43 of 69: 'How's your connection to the Spring? ' Resp 263 of 263: Karen (KarenR) Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (18:37) 1 lines Nothing disappears. I checked and yesterday's messages on 123 are still there. ******************************** Wanna bet??? This is from telnet and we were evaporated !"}, {"response": 265, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (22:57)", "body": "Marcia, I can plug in Redisplay -20 and get how ever number of old messages desired from the old site. Here's one from yesterday at #123. They aren't disappearing from the regular website. Karen Topic 123 of 128 [drool]: Colin Firth (Part 6) Response 1970 of 1987: Ann W (amw) * Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (17:10) * 2 lines a surprise awaits you here Karen, I can't get this page, can you put it here."}, {"response": 266, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (23:51)", "body": "Curious! Redisplay was not working before it shut down altogether this morning (for me)...it works fine now. Other glitches are when you access topic X.x you get the entire topic instead from that x response onward. Curious!"}, {"response": 267, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (23:53)", "body": "Btw, I just spent several hours checking through my topics throughout Spring and all of Geo to repost missing messages. I think I have gotten them all - at least the ones affected by this recent change over...I hope!"}, {"response": 268, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (08:52)", "body": "Is there a way to link the new location from the old location? sorta like a click here? Terry keeps telling people to post to the new boards, but even I didn't know how to go about getting here!"}, {"response": 269, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (08:58)", "body": ""}, {"response": 270, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (09:17)", "body": "Old site is http://206.97.234.70 New site is http://www.spring.net or http://208.165.85.156 Keep the ip address for backup purposes, bookmark it in the unlikely event nameservers start acting up."}, {"response": 271, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (10:02)", "body": "How's your connection to the new Spring site? Is anyone having any problems?"}, {"response": 272, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (13:24)", "body": "Cool runnings here."}, {"response": 273, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (13:26)", "body": "8am HST all is up and working well, thank you. I seem to be able to find messages which were missing yesterday. Thanks for all of the hard work behind the scenes in Spring Heaven where the magicians and angels live. Lots of appreciative *hugs* and warm fragrant breezes from Hawaii for your efforts!"}, {"response": 274, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (01:17)", "body": "Could someone please tell me what address to use now to telnet to the Spring? Please?"}, {"response": 275, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (09:16)", "body": "Shouldn't it be this one that Terry just left? http://208.165.85.156 (using the telnet prefix)"}, {"response": 276, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (10:11)", "body": "telnet accounts haven't been set up yet, I'm looking in to how to set this up on the new site."}, {"response": 277, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (18:35)", "body": "Ok, thanks!"}, {"response": 278, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (11:12)", "body": "Got another person who can't get to Austen.com: --- Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 02:09:38 -0800 (PST) From: serena s Subject: new url for DWG Dear Ann, Please help! I've been deprived of the guild from 27th january.. I kept checking back to the old tea room but the latest post seem to date right back to the 27th o january.. Is there a new url for DWG? Thanks, Ann. Serena. --- I sent her an e-mail asking where in the world she resides. If she's in Asia too, I might see a pattern with the other person from Malaysia who can not get in."}, {"response": 279, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (11:16)", "body": "I don't know why these folks can't get in, can they get in to the main site and in to http://www.spring.net ? Will you ask serena to email me direct, Ann? I'd be happy to try and help her get connected. Has she tried the direct ip address?"}, {"response": 280, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (12:19)", "body": "I just gave her the numeric IP today. I haven't heard whether she can get in using that or not. If you want to talk to her, her e-mail is: serena484@yahoo.com Also, SheriMD can't get in, and she has tried the numeric. Her address is: sherizan@hotmail.com (She's in Malaysia, maybe their routers are slower to upgrade to the new adresses than in the US)."}, {"response": 281, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (12:39)", "body": "I think that's what's happening. But I'll email her. I want everyone to have access!"}, {"response": 282, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (12:54)", "body": "I told her about http://208.171.121.122 and to try it if she can't get in my domain name address. At least she'll be able to get to the site still it starts resolving in her area."}, {"response": 283, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (15:00)", "body": "Telnet does not work today for me - the old one has been disconnected?! And, we await the new accounts. Hmmm...but three are telnetting at the moment. They definitely know something I do not know. But, that's ok, too! What I do not know I cannot mess up - much...!"}, {"response": 284, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Feb 6, 2000 (10:06)", "body": "There does seem to be a Malaysia problem with connecting: ------------ From: serena s Subject: Re: new url for DWG To: \"Ann of Austen.com\" Thanks for the reply. But the numeric version of the address doesnt work as well. And yes, i am from Malaysia. Is there a backup remedy for this problem? Thanks, Ann. ------------ So both Serena and SheriMD are in Malaysia and can't get through."}, {"response": 285, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 6, 2000 (10:25)", "body": "I'll continue to work with them on this."}, {"response": 286, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (11:05)", "body": "I realize all you folks at Spring are very busy, but if you could put the login button back on the new main page it would be much appreciated. Thanks."}, {"response": 287, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (12:42)", "body": "Main page of Drool or main page of Spring?"}, {"response": 288, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (12:44)", "body": "BTW if you use http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/drool/all/new you will get an automatic pop-up box for you to use to login."}, {"response": 289, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (14:09)", "body": "Main page of Drool or main page of Spring? Main [home] page of Spring. Thanks for your help, Marcia, but I share my computer and don't use a bookmark (trust me, there's a method to my madness)."}, {"response": 290, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (14:21)", "body": "*grin* I understand perfectly! This should be of help, then... http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/main This URL will also cause a opo-up login box to appear. I have an array of conference/all/new buttons on my personal button list which sows up on a bar just below the location space. It is so handy!!!"}, {"response": 291, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (14:24)", "body": "If it is really necessary to keep where you go on the net private, You know how to delet the location bar history? Otherwise it would be very easy to access where you have been going for the truly curious!"}, {"response": 292, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "I'll put the login button back on tonight."}, {"response": 293, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (17:16)", "body": "Marcia: yes. Terry: thanks."}, {"response": 294, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (18:00)", "body": "Eileen, then you are covered. Also dump your document file!!! Email me if there is any question about it (but, youknow that *grin*)"}, {"response": 295, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Tue, Feb 8, 2000 (10:41)", "body": "Thanks for that login button, Terry, and for your concern, Marcia. XXOO"}, {"response": 296, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 8, 2000 (14:10)", "body": "That is one remarkable front page Spring now has. My ex commented: The welcoming page is very attractive, and should make any visitors feel that they have reached a substantial site. I agree!"}, {"response": 297, "author": "patas", "date": "Tue, Feb 8, 2000 (16:36)", "body": "(MarciaH)That is one remarkable front page Spring now has. And i'm quoted there ;-) May I ask questions here about things I don't understand in Drool? Like, where have hundreds of posts gone in the old conferences?"}, {"response": 298, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 8, 2000 (16:56)", "body": "Gi, in Drool or in other conferences? I don't think we are missing anything other than the posts from when Terry copied from the old place and we actually started up here."}, {"response": 299, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 8, 2000 (18:32)", "body": "Drool is missing hundreds of posts because it is so active during the transfer from one changer to the other. I was able to repost the ones on 113 in Drool and the ones in Geo and my other topics in various conferences which were missing. (I keep files of responses of most of the topics...)"}, {"response": 300, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (18:21)", "body": "I looked at the front page ( http://www.spring.net) , and I had a couple problems loading it: Three images didn't load for me: 1) the title bar at the top, 2) the big one in the middle, 3) and the one on the right with \"Maggie on equality...\" In addition, several of the links in the \"What's Cool\" section don't seem to go to the right place: eg. shops, roomates, ICQ, and our webs. Also, the page is too wide for my screen and quite a bit on the right hand margin is getting cut off. I rarely have this problem on other sites, so my screen isn't abnormally small. I use Netscape 4.5, which is not the latest, so maybe my browser isn't compatable with some of the HTML used on the front page."}, {"response": 301, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (18:32)", "body": "Ann, I think it is a work in progress. I have been watching it in amazement for the past few days. The page fits perfectly on my Netscape 4.7 4.5 should be able to handle it. Have you tweaked your monitor screen? (I know you know all about this stuff!) The pictured in the black table to the right do not load because there are no pictured installed there yet...so far...still working...I think...!"}, {"response": 302, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (18:38)", "body": ""}, {"response": 303, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (20:03)", "body": "The main page does not fit on my screen either...and my monitor is tweak-free. Also, some links do not work, as Ann said."}, {"response": 304, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (20:50)", "body": "Like Marcia said, it is still being worked upon and rearranged and so on. Be patient. Your sites are up and humming happily as is Geo... I am wondering why it fits on my monitor even when I shrink it to medium-sized...?!"}, {"response": 305, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (23:10)", "body": "It needs work, I'd be happy to give y'all, Ann, Karen and Marcia author permisson on the page if you like. Wouldn't it be great to make it a team project?"}, {"response": 306, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (23:24)", "body": "sprin5, you know not what you do. Can you see CF balancing the earth ala Atlas clad in loin cloth? *lol* Actually, that might make for interesting stuff but alas, not for your front page. Let us discuss this and get back to you...whew! What a thought!"}, {"response": 307, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (23:29)", "body": "With all due respect, I wish you would continue doing as you contemplated doing. They will never agree to leave Geo things there...and I really appreciate seeing them...and I will not agree to Colin Firth all over the place. There is so much more to Spring than Drool! (ducking under my work station just in case they brought brickbats with them...)"}, {"response": 308, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (23:38)", "body": "Marcia, why would you think we'd want Colin on the front page? And BTW, you are not talking in Inner."}, {"response": 309, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (23:51)", "body": "I know that...why did you think I was? My comments about CF? Just having a bit of fun. Actually, I could see him as the god Vulcan who wore just about nothing. Neptune, Ditto... Ok, I'll be serious here. We could certainly do it. might we wish to toss ideas round somewhere before tackling it? I am a most agreeable person, as you know, and try to get along with all ideas...I am willing to put my meager experience in your more capable hands."}, {"response": 310, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (00:08)", "body": "why did you think I was? The use of \"they\""}, {"response": 311, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (00:16)", "body": "Oops....shoulda been \"us\" Actually, I saw it as a contest for space between austen.com, drool and everything else. There is no reason for that assumption, and I am sorry! Constructively, do you have any ideas?"}, {"response": 312, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (00:28)", "body": "Not really, but thought I would cause trouble anyway. ;-)"}, {"response": 313, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (00:34)", "body": ""}, {"response": 314, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (00:46)", "body": "Of course, but now am off to slumberland...not to be confused with Firthland, a high-class suburb. ;-)"}, {"response": 315, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (09:49)", "body": "We really do need to get organization, form a team, and all. Ideas?"}, {"response": 316, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (13:23)", "body": "It was Evelyn's idea initially...perhaps she will see this or we can post it to her and get her input. She is very good at this sort of thing!"}, {"response": 317, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (17:18)", "body": "Thank you Marcia....for the compliment... I have an idea of a workable committee, that would work in other instances, however I am not knowledgeable of cyber- problems. I suggest that someone ask Myretta re: the overall organization of Pemberley. Although they are set up differently, we could modify and build on their plan.I believe both Ann and Karen know her well enough to inquire. She has always been v. generous with Spring and I know would assist us to organize.My other suggestion would be to ask a representative from Digihost to also serve on the team/committee. There should be periodic meetings....not just meet when there is a crisis. This keeps communication flowing. What do you guys think? I'm excited....A New Era for Spring!"}, {"response": 318, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (18:41)", "body": "Let's hear it for the New Era of Spring (whilst Alexander is working on the advertising dynamics on Porch 31...)"}, {"response": 319, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (21:41)", "body": ".I believe both Ann and Karen know her well enough to inquire. } I think I'll leave that one for Karen >:)"}, {"response": 320, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (21:51)", "body": "(Oh yes...!)"}, {"response": 321, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (22:31)", "body": "*guffaw guffaw*"}, {"response": 322, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (22:59)", "body": "Ummm Hmmm... I shall say no more...lest I get...never mind...!"}, {"response": 323, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (09:43)", "body": "I am unable to read the last 50 responses. Is anyone else having this problem? Marcia, I have not been to Geo because of this. I use to be able to click on a post of the last 50, but Geo is not even listed on the Main Menu."}, {"response": 324, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (09:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 325, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (10:17)", "body": "Thanks, Karen! And little Red Valentine said, \"My, Marcia, what a great big topic you have!\" ;-)"}, {"response": 326, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (12:09)", "body": "Wow!!! What a Valentine to find from Karen and Moon this morning. I am all amazement and delight. Thanks for helping, Karen, and thanks also for your nice comments, Moon. There are all sorts of updating maps and things in there from sunspots in 24 to weather maps for just about everywhere on earth in 14 and updating earthquake map in 26. My fav ones are the Jewels ones in which Karen has held forth on the Darcy Family items of the same - or was that Vulcanism?! We have managed to import Darcy into Geo, as is only appropriate, considering..."}, {"response": 327, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (12:12)", "body": "As to the last 50 posts etc, Terry emailed Kayleen about that. She is the wife of the author of Yapp software and it appears to be a problem with it. Soon hopefully..."}, {"response": 328, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (12:29)", "body": "I had a very nice email from Myretta re: the RoP organization. I shall read it and present my suggestion for you all to work on (NOT adopt)later in the week."}, {"response": 329, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (13:07)", "body": "Excellent news, Evelyn."}, {"response": 330, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (10:11)", "body": "Yep, I'd like to review that."}, {"response": 331, "author": "patas", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (07:27)", "body": "What I meant a while ago about lost posts was this: Topic 53 has only 5 posts; Topic 59 has 12; 67 has 12 and 68 has 24. I don't know about others, but I'm sure these were much bigger when first I got into Spring. What happened?"}, {"response": 332, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (10:18)", "body": "Those losses had nothing to do with the move and happened ages ago. They were caused by an inexperienced new host. ;-) (hiding behind the curtain)"}, {"response": 333, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:06)", "body": "Oooohhhhh neat!! The Most Recent Postings are back on the main Drool page. Yeah!! Thanks Terry and Kayleen."}, {"response": 334, "author": "patas", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:25)", "body": "(Karen)Oooohhhhh neat!! The Most Recent Postings are back on the main Drool page. Yeah!! Thanks Terry and Kayleen. Yes, I noticed it too. I was in Geo when it happened, a few moments ago :-) Those losses had nothing to do with the move and happened ages ago. They were caused by an inexperienced new host. ;-) (hiding behind the curtain) Oh! So we'll never read them again? Or has Marcia saved them at some point?"}, {"response": 335, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:28)", "body": ""}, {"response": 336, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:37)", "body": ""}, {"response": 337, "author": "patas", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:50)", "body": ""}, {"response": 338, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:05)", "body": "They were lost getting drool's back, but that has been corrected."}, {"response": 339, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:15)", "body": "Wow, our buttons are back! Thanks so much. Now I think the designer bars need to be removed as well, for aethestic reasons. They're pretty but just don't fit the overall design."}, {"response": 340, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:21)", "body": "Just put them in Geo where they are well loved and appreciated *smile*"}, {"response": 341, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:30)", "body": "Marcia Has them - shall I send you the 53 file? Email, of course."}, {"response": 342, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:37)", "body": "(Marcia)Just put them in Geo where they are well loved and appreciated *smile* I like 'em too:-)"}, {"response": 343, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:42)", "body": "...and Marcia does not have them any longer...rather she has the pristine marble bars which were chosen when the conference was first created....*sigh* I know..."}, {"response": 344, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (18:15)", "body": "If we are very polite and wash our hands and put on pretty dresses and act like ladies, may we have a Crafts Conference with Wolf and Marcia as Hosts...or crafters?! Please?"}, {"response": 345, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (18:57)", "body": "...but not before Food conference is brought up to speed and is back to being as lovely as Geo is and Paraspring, and all of those other non-default conferences. Food is the only conference without horizontal bars or other neat things. It makes me very sad to see it that way. Please fix it!"}, {"response": 346, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (20:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 347, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (22:03)", "body": "....oops...we've been found out already? *lol* Dontcha think someone needs to fix the Food conference and Screwed now? You and I could put up little curtains all around and hang copper pots from the ceiling, and wear frilly little aprons and little else (if'n you want to bury the lady idea altogether...) Think I got anyone's attention, Wolfie?!"}, {"response": 348, "author": "patas", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (23:07)", "body": "I feel sorry for those buttons and bars... I really liked them, they were \"happy\". I feel a Conference should be created just so they could be used again :-)"}, {"response": 349, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (23:19)", "body": "They are in all other conferences (porch, food, news, cultures, babes, books, austin... on and on) not having their own setup like mine and Wolf's. I think I shall change back and forth as the seasons change, but there was such dedicated work on my behalf today I do not have the heart to change it now... By the end of the weekend, however ..."}, {"response": 350, "author": "patas", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (23:34)", "body": "No, if they are on all the others, let them be and bask in your exclusivity ;-)"}, {"response": 351, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "Thank you for saying that. I have been torn all day. They are the default buttons and are wonderful where they are to cheer up the default wallpaper which is really bland and intended to be so. You made me feel very good by your comment. Thank you more than I can say...*hugs* Gi, dear!"}, {"response": 352, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (01:03)", "body": "There is a glare on the bottom of the SpringCam where the phone number is. However, there is enough visible to know that it is one of Terry's Spring.net phones. Tonight is the first time I have not gotten a window saying that the url was not a working one. I am getting \"the wailers in austin, texas\" but I cannot hear anything but what is the computer equivalent of rectifier hum. My problem or Spring's? Otherwise things are splendid on The Spring and it is better than ever. Thanks for all the hard work and sleepless nights. I truly appreciate it! Anything new on Telnetting to Spring?"}, {"response": 353, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (01:05)", "body": "Mike is back! He is the crown jewel of Geo, I am happy to say. I miss others, though..."}, {"response": 354, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (01:06)", "body": "(What does a mom have to do to get her kid-the-geologist onto Spring?! Mine has a pretty neat one, too...*sigh*)"}, {"response": 355, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (11:41)", "body": "well, my connection to the spring is great! my thanks to all those hardworking behind the scenes type people!"}, {"response": 356, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (12:29)", "body": "Mine is, as well...Guess I do not need to hear SpringCam...*sigh* G'morning, Wolfie!"}, {"response": 357, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (18:46)", "body": ""}, {"response": 358, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (19:14)", "body": "bleeding hearts!!! My Mother always had them and I have been away from the temperate zone for so long I have no idea how to grow them. I think I have heard some really pilau music from SpringCam (nevvah mind - did not like it so no loss!) and an occasional guy discussing things local Austin that I had no idea about. Mostly I am hunting for our fearless leader in blond ringlets or some other permutation and so far I have not seen him at all on SpringCam Ree...Yes. Terry...No. *sigh*"}, {"response": 359, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (19:19)", "body": "Even though this is hardly the topic... my bleeding hearts (which have taken over an entire terraced area, daffodils, columbine, and iris are pushing way up out of the ground. This idiotic weather. Everything here thinks it time to come out. Stupid plants! Don't they know it's still February. ;-)"}, {"response": 360, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (19:43)", "body": "http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/garden/2/new Actually... A friend in North Carolina said each time the snow melted the dandelions were blooming under the ice and snow and were all pretty and green and yellow. He said it was surrealistic!"}, {"response": 361, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (21:22)", "body": "Now playing on Spring's webcam, Colin Firth in Turn of the Screw, full motion fvideo and sound."}, {"response": 362, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (21:27)", "body": "Thanks, Terry! We do not get it until this evening!"}, {"response": 363, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (21:30)", "body": "Terry!!! It'excellent quality sound and picture. Wow!!! HE is speaking... *sigh* Very much appreciated!!!"}, {"response": 364, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:09)", "body": "And after that there was this cool poetry show. About Rumi poetry."}, {"response": 365, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "Now playing, the Wailers, some hot mamas and some great reggae musicians, from the the live show the other night. Shot it with my digital camcorder. What a rockin' good time, man, I danced heavily for two hours."}, {"response": 366, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (00:52)", "body": "Did anyone catch that? Gotta watch really carefully!!!"}, {"response": 367, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (01:14)", "body": "You are loud and clear and wonderful and I love it!!!"}, {"response": 368, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (01:33)", "body": ""}, {"response": 369, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (01:39)", "body": "Yup! got it! Wish there were some way to save it here!"}, {"response": 370, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (02:41)", "body": "I even tried to pause on your image and using LviewPro to save you as part of the desktop capture. Your image turned into a pink screen. I am all disappointed. How do we get a picture of you like you look now? Much better, I might add. Men get better and better - like fine wine!"}, {"response": 371, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (02:50)", "body": "Nice house - needs some soft touches but no sound! (Hawaii still awake - IO sleeping elsewhere tonight...)"}, {"response": 372, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (02:54)", "body": "Love the side views - literally side...This must be the lovely house which you took a camera to hide behind. Lovely, like you said! And...of course no sound...tis a slide show!"}, {"response": 373, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (09:07)", "body": "It's still playing as a tape, the Wailers, Elota's play, Wimberly. It went to a blue screen for the latter part of last night."}, {"response": 374, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (12:01)", "body": "Then I did not miss anything. Excellent!"}, {"response": 375, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (18:44)", "body": "(((((((((( TERRY )))))))))) SpringCam is making really nasty loud noises and the screen is black and blank, too. Help!"}, {"response": 376, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (11:06)", "body": "Firth.com and its chatroom are missing. Tried www.colinfirth.com, but that didn't get me there either."}, {"response": 377, "author": "lafn", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (12:01)", "body": "Karen, when the cf domain problem gets resolved, would you consider listing The CF Chat Room with the other websites at the top of Drool? Then I wouldn't have to go to favorites first. Thank you:-)"}, {"response": 378, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (14:50)", "body": "I'll consider it. ;-)"}, {"response": 379, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (17:04)", "body": ""}, {"response": 380, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 1, 2000 (10:02)", "body": "I finally finished the move to our own nameservers, ns1.spring.net and ns2.spring.net so some things may be broken. The admins of cf may have to do a bit of patching, even though I tried to keep everyting intact. If anyone needs access information please email me terry@spring.net Today is the last day the old servers will run at the old Austin colocate facility so if you need anything off of 206.97.234.70 or 206.97.234.73 get it today."}, {"response": 381, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 1, 2000 (10:08)", "body": "I moved a *bunch* of sites last night to new locations: primoincense.com 207.0.32.100 atlantea.com 207.0.32.119 lifespaces.com 207.0.32.120 mysticalplaces.com 207.0.32.121 motorblade.com 207.0.32.122 miniaturebooks.com 207.0.32.123 colinfirth.com 207.0.32.155 firth.com 207.0.32.155 bioregion.com 207.0.32.157 childrenstory.com 207.0.32.158 tvreviewer.com 207.0.32.159 poolgoods.com 207.0.32.160 workontheweb.com 207.0.32.161 wholetech.com 207.0.32.162 saveseed.com 207.0.32.163 silkcloth.com 207.0.32.164 golftravel.net 207.0.32.165 divecruise.com 207.0.32.166 ns1.spring.net 208.165.65.27 ns2.spring.net 208.165.67.233 eatsolar.com 208.165.68.149 spring.net 208.165.85.156 austen.com 208.171.121.122 suzyamis.com 208.171.121.38 repeater.org 208.171.127.70 Not all of these are built, some are concept sites. But this is our current roster of websites. Note that firth.com is a *pointer* to colinfirth.com. Some folks who have authorship on these sites will need to email me for access. If anyone wants to volunteer to work on any of these sites plese email me terry@spring.net or post something here."}, {"response": 382, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 1, 2000 (13:26)", "body": "i'm willing to help out if i can. let me know what you need, terry!"}, {"response": 383, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (07:56)", "body": "You can visit some of these sites and say what you like or don't like, or suggest a direction for future growth. austen.com is now surpassing spring.net in overall traffic and bandwidth."}, {"response": 384, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (23:50)", "body": "That is pleasing and gratifying to know! Ann, Congratulations!"}, {"response": 385, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (04:31)", "body": "Austen is really growing in size and bandwidth."}, {"response": 386, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (11:14)", "body": "How much growth can this new server handle. Wolf is afraid to post pictures for fear of over-loading the Spring's share of their hard drives or however it is being done. I am also concerned about that..."}, {"response": 387, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (12:36)", "body": "*Clap* , *Clap*I applaud DWG and Ann at the helm."}, {"response": 388, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (16:31)", "body": "We're already maxing out, but that's ok, we'll just run a pledge drive. Or I could go down to the freeway and hang out with a sign \"Will work for bandwidth!\"."}, {"response": 389, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (16:34)", "body": "No nononononono! Geo is hot these days, but I shall cut back on my postings. Have you posted this information on the email message board that was set up so you don't have to do that?! Time to rattle the cages again?! NO playing on the Freeway, Please! We NEED you!!!"}, {"response": 390, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (08:53)", "body": "Since austen.com is getting so incredibly popular. It's off the charts, a little ecommerce, like Visto and some click though programs to booksellers, etc ought to help as well, depending on how the powers at be at austen feel about that."}, {"response": 391, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (09:35)", "body": "Terry, isn't this the kind of discussion that should be occurring on springcom?"}, {"response": 392, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (17:46)", "body": "maybe you should post something at austin.com for donations. make them pay for their site?"}, {"response": 393, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (17:49)", "body": "Most definitely! If they are using most of the bandwidth..."}, {"response": 394, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (17:50)", "body": "i still don't understand the bandwidth thing but know about taking up space. do you want me to start posting pics as hotlinks to save space? i can do it again if need be. (still got my geo account and it's got lots of room for now)"}, {"response": 395, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (17:54)", "body": "I can delete Ree's paintings from my space on Spring's hard drive too and portraits os Springizens, as well. (Wolfie, I think you and I are not using all of the space - I'll bet it is other stuff not even on Spring...)"}, {"response": 396, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (17:57)", "body": "well, if you delete ree's paintings, save them to disk! we don't want to lose any of her artwork at all."}, {"response": 397, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (17:58)", "body": "they really belong in the artcentaur project we started. am waiting further instructions from ree-ree for building it up!"}, {"response": 398, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (17:59)", "body": "I just deleted two files from Geo...I have them on my hard drive in case anyone wants them posted again....*sigh*"}, {"response": 399, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (18:01)", "body": "I have Ree's stuff saved on my computer!...and all other stuff originally on the old hard drive. It should be on ArtCentaur...but all I have seen of it was the topic and a few posts..."}, {"response": 400, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (18:06)", "body": "yep. the domain did get registered but right after, ree went back to school and has been rather scarce. don't know whether we should press with it or wait. *sigh*"}, {"response": 401, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (18:10)", "body": ""}, {"response": 402, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (18:15)", "body": "i want to wait too...."}, {"response": 403, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "*hugs* Wolfie. It just won't be the same otherwise... We need Ree to be here to untie the maile lei which I insist on supplying!"}, {"response": 404, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Mar 6, 2000 (12:04)", "body": "Terry, It would appear that I will need to remove my Bucket site from Spring. Again, your Frontpage defaults overrode my pages' formatting specifications and I had to re-FTP mine. This is the second time in less than a week I've had to do so. This doesn't take into account my time to eliminate of all the duplicate files created by the program, which I assume also take up server space, which you are paying for. Karen"}, {"response": 405, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (15:56)", "body": "My connection to The Spring is splendid as far as using the Net. Is there a chance in this lifetime that I might have another telnet account established before I forget all that I learned? I would really appreciate it very much. I note that three different accounts are logged in the old way right now..."}, {"response": 406, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (06:40)", "body": "It may be that you have to get your own website to get a telent account. I'm still figuring this one out. And it might be that you could only telnet to your own website server. Now if that server were the same one (baldur) that the spring is hosted on you would have access."}, {"response": 407, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (12:17)", "body": "OK...I'll wait for now. Do you mean my own website on my isp or elsewhere or do you mean my own website on The Spring?"}, {"response": 408, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (05:44)", "body": "I mean you might have to have your own dedicated website on baldur."}, {"response": 409, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (12:39)", "body": "I need to discuss this with someone to whom I cannot speak right now. I'll just wait till things calm down some more then talk directly with baldur...is that the way I should attack this problem? I still cannot understand why I cannot telnet in from my account on Hawaii-on-line. Might have a go at it again."}, {"response": 410, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (21:50)", "body": "Thanks for talking to me about this, Terry...Will talk to Kat about it on Monday. Thanks! I'll let you know what she says...!"}, {"response": 411, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (14:36)", "body": "Just a little note to remind the rest of the United States that you will \"Spring Forward on hour at 2AM tomorrow but Hawaii remains on Standard time. That means Austin will be 5 hours ahead of us (when it is 10am in Austin, it is only 5am in Hawaii) and the East coast will be 6 hours ahead of us. It is as though 1000 miles of ocean is being slipped between us and the Mainland. Aloha."}, {"response": 412, "author": "heide", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (14:57)", "body": ""}, {"response": 413, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:16)", "body": "I shall post it in there, but our handsome and fearless leader does not go into Geo unless I truss and haul him in all by my little self...so I thought I would put it out here, first with the hope that he just might see it. It is amazingly confusing to the rest of the world as to whether we are 5 hours ahead or behind everybody. Just remember, Hawaii is the last place in America to get anything - including the day. Theoretically, that means we should know if the world is going to end tomorrow, because most of you are there already and are still posting!"}, {"response": 414, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:17)", "body": "According to Maggie, they went on British Summer Time last weekend."}, {"response": 415, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:19)", "body": "MEXICO CITY - Debate flares over the adoption of daylight- savings time in Mexico. Among the evils of daylight-savings enumerated by Mexican Senator Felix Salgado is the strain it puts on good marital relations. Ever since it was introduced, six years ago, setting the clock back has caused distress among Latin lovers who are unable to engage in their 'mananero' (Spanish for morning quickie - really!) because wives have to take their children to school an hour earlier. In Salgado's defense, he also mentions the risk that school- children face, venturing out on crime-ridden streets in the dark, but with elections just months away he's focusing on the issues that really hit home."}, {"response": 416, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (17:38)", "body": "Thanks, Marcia, I had just noticed it on my calendar. I hate this one. :-("}, {"response": 417, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (17:51)", "body": "Me too...we will be farther from civilization than ever."}, {"response": 418, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (00:07)", "body": "While you're shifting your clocks...remember to check the batteries on your smoke detectors!"}, {"response": 419, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (00:14)", "body": "Thanks for that, Ann. We don't shift our clocks but we do need to check the batteries in the smoke detectors. Mahalo!"}, {"response": 420, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 14, 2000 (13:23)", "body": "Terry requested I put this comment on Porch. I thought this topic would reach the most people: We need a way to post to topics via email ...-wlll you please post this in porch? I am trying to figure how it would be possible to email Spring and show up as a posting. Login? How? More information as it becomes available. Till then, any thoughts ?"}, {"response": 421, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (09:25)", "body": "Spring is taking a very long time to load and refresh for me? Anyone else having this problem. I'm not experiencing it with any other sites."}, {"response": 422, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (10:08)", "body": "Have called digihost. Problem is all fixed. :-)"}, {"response": 423, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (10:37)", "body": ""}, {"response": 424, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (10:42)", "body": "Webtrends, man. I never saw such detailed stats on our site. Whois is fitzwd in place 6?"}, {"response": 425, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (12:13)", "body": "fitwd is a Droolian lady. Firthian, actually"}, {"response": 426, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (12:15)", "body": "Sheesh - I knew I was busy here, but did not think I was that overwhelming. Shall I just slink back to my cave? (I am trying to keep stuff going while the usual busy poster is on Hiatus (that cursed Greek (?) island...)"}, {"response": 427, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (14:07)", "body": "No! Keep on truckin' Marci! Stay out in the daylight, you don't want that dark 'ol cave."}, {"response": 428, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (14:09)", "body": "That's for sure! I'll be here when I'm not doing baseball stuff in real life for the UHHilo Vulcans (we have no short name for us, unfortunately - other than \"the Vuls\")"}, {"response": 429, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (14:11)", "body": "Great!"}, {"response": 430, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (14:28)", "body": "...I'm doin' it even as we read this stuff here. I gotta lotta stuff to post, and I just can't let a comment go uncommented upon...*sigh* (Like this one!)"}, {"response": 431, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "Can't believe Geo and Food (only that one gluttony topic someone once called it) broke Drool's stranglehold on the top 10 busiest conferences...Yippee! Congratulations to the hosts *smile*"}, {"response": 432, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (17:59)", "body": "neato stats Paul!"}, {"response": 433, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (20:23)", "body": "If Drool has so many hits...why do so few people post? ~~~~~ I personally don't care...but do you think these stats showing the top ten users should be posted on a public board? Maybe we should respect people's privacy. Or at least warn them ?"}, {"response": 434, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (20:39)", "body": ""}, {"response": 435, "author": "fitzwd", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (20:49)", "body": "If I want Big Brother to watch me, I can get enough of that at work. Don't need it in my recreational time."}, {"response": 436, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (21:16)", "body": "Aloha Donna! Terry is anything but Big Brother. But, perhaps he is not the one with which lies your concern. I live with one I am breaking of that nasty habit. I appreciate your adversity to the very idea."}, {"response": 437, "author": "fitzwd", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "Hi Marcia. Sorry if my response sounded edgy. The stats reminded me too much of the workplace :-( In a better mood now :-)"}, {"response": 438, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (21:48)", "body": "I know...and that is why I identified you as I did when Terry wondered who fitzwd was. Been there, done that, have the T-shirt (and all the rest of that stuff) *hugs* for being so regular in your posting. We need more to be that way!"}, {"response": 439, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 20, 2000 (22:04)", "body": "well, i don't really care if i'm listed on the top users. the only one who can link it to me is terry and a limited few others. big brother's watching anyway, so smile at the camera!"}, {"response": 440, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (00:05)", "body": "Hey, I didn't mean any bigbrothishness! On a lighter, less personal note, Saturday is the lonliest day of the week! Activity Level by Day of the Week Day Hits % of Total Hits User Sessions 1 Sun 91,712 13.51% 19,092 2 Mon 123,738 18.23% 24,313 3 Tue 117,172 17.26% 22,627 4 Wed 118,037 17.39% 21,776 5 Thu 112,797 16.61% 21,954 6 Fri 104,171 15.34% 20,605 7 Sat 11,073 1.63% 2,778 Total Weekdays 575,915 84.85% 111,275 Total Weekend 102,785 15.14% 21,870"}, {"response": 441, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (00:06)", "body": "And Monday is the least lonely, most active. But Saturday, the Spring must roll up the sidewalks!"}, {"response": 442, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (00:09)", "body": "We're also night people. Activity Level by Hours Details Hour # of Hits % of Total Hits # of User Sessions 00:00-00:59 21,897 3.22% 4,885 01:00-01:59 17,346 2.55% 4,088 02:00-02:59 15,663 2.3% 3,438 03:00-03:59 14,526 2.14% 3,389 04:00-04:59 13,710 2.02% 2,797 05:00-05:59 15,425 2.27% 2,757 06:00-06:59 15,276 2.25% 3,186 07:00-07:59 18,262 2.69% 3,805 08:00-08:59 21,602 3.18% 4,763 09:00-09:59 25,412 3.74% 5,660 10:00-10:59 32,825 4.83% 6,537 11:00-11:59 33,591 4.94% 6,225 12:00-12:59 36,660 5.4% 6,581 13:00-13:59 37,469 5.52% 6,822 14:00-14:59 37,539 5.53% 7,103 15:00-15:59 39,025 5.74% 7,446 16:00-16:59 42,668 6.28% 7,819 17:00-17:59 38,658 5.69% 7,189 18:00-18:59 37,994 5.59% 6,975 19:00-19:59 35,109 5.17% 6,497 20:00-20:59 36,492 5.37% 6,675 21:00-21:59 34,419 5.07% 6,297 22:00-22:59 29,826 4.39% 6,306 23:00-23:59 27,306 4.02% 5,905 Total Users during Work Hours (8:00am-5:00pm) 306,791 45.2% 58,956 Total Users during After Hours (5:01pm-7:59am) 371,909 54.79% 74,189 All this from http://www.spring.net/_webtrends"}, {"response": 443, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (00:10)", "body": ""}, {"response": 444, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (00:11)", "body": ""}, {"response": 445, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (10:30)", "body": ""}, {"response": 446, "author": "heide", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (11:01)", "body": "Interesting stats. You wondered why so few people post when we get so many hits, Evelyn. Did you notice that in this 2-month+ time period, there were 30796 one time user visits but only 1,179 users who visited 10 or more times? We must have scared off the first-timers from ever visiting again. ;-) Also, if it makes even one person uncomfortable about having a personal stat posted here, I think we should take it off. I saved the site though for future reference. Illuminating."}, {"response": 447, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (12:40)", "body": "terry, you're gonna explode with all that info!!"}, {"response": 448, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (15:20)", "body": "I, for one, love to see stats - it is the only way I can really tell how Geo is doing when we have a lot of responses being posted. I requested to know some time ago if there were a way for me to tell how well Geo was doing in comparison with other conferences, including Drool. I appreciate knowing, and I thank you!"}, {"response": 449, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (15:50)", "body": "Yep, sorry if anyone was offended. I didn't mean to hurt anyones feelings. I'm just a nut for statistics. I'm curious as to how our site is doing. Stats are available for our other sites as well. And speaking of other sites: Month to date plan bandwidth [HELP] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Domain Name Bandwidth Used PCT austen.com 2,746,026 KB 55.42% spring.net 1,189,254 KB 24.00% childrenstory.com 572,185 KB 11.55% colinfirth.com 262,895 KB 5.31% repeater.org 15,675 KB 0.32% georgebush2000.net 4,125 KB 0.08% mitchie.com 3,407 KB 0.07% eatsolar.com 1,733 KB 0.03% tcares.org 1,516 KB 0.03% silkcloth.com 1,078 KB 0.02% mysticalplaces.com 931 KB 0.02% atlantea.com 887 KB 0.02% bioregion.com 808 KB 0.02% motorblade.com 731 KB 0.01% suzyamis.com 560 KB 0.01% golftravel.net 301 KB 0.01% workontheweb.com 149 KB 0.00% lifespaces.com 127 KB 0.00% divecruise.com 90 KB 0.00% saveseed.com 77 KB 0.00% miniaturebooks.com 67 KB 0.00% primoincense.com 63 KB 0.00% webarter.net 44 KB 0.00% tvreviewer.com 43 KB 0.00% wholetech.com 20 KB 0.00% jefftv.com 19 KB 0.00% poolgoods.com 19 KB 0.00% Total Bandwidth 4.95 GB"}, {"response": 450, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (16:39)", "body": "What on Austen.com is consuming so much bandwidth? Is it sheer volume of words or something else? I think they need to help you raise money to afford you more bandwidth. While I am deleting things from my tiny hard drive space, they are off and flying and I am beginning to resent that....Please explain, as Ann is my hero(ine) so far..."}, {"response": 451, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (16:40)", "body": "Oh, and could you bread down how the conferences on Spring are doing as far as bandwidth is concerned. Thanks! In other words, should I shut down Geo???"}, {"response": 452, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (18:36)", "body": "No way should you shut down geo or delete *any* of your stuff. The bandwidth is used by much bigger files, mostly log files and archives. I am dealing with these issues so you don't have to worry about them. Bandwidth refers to the information being transferred over the web, not to the amount of disk space anyway. It means that austen.com is very, very popular these days. Disk usage looks like this: Week to date plan disk usage [HELP] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Domain Name Date Updated Data Storage Used PCT spring.net 2000-04-19 1,057,143 KB 80.85% austen.com 2000-04-20 134,736 KB 10.30% childrenstory.com 2000-04-20 37,920 KB 2.90% colinfirth.com 2000-04-20 20,167 KB 1.54% mitchie.com 2000-04-20 7,784 KB 0.60% repeater.org 2000-04-20 7,762 KB 0.59% atlantea.com 2000-04-20 6,728 KB 0.51% tcares.org 2000-04-20 3,789 KB 0.29% silkcloth.com 2000-04-20 2,618 KB 0.20% eatsolar.com 2000-04-20 2,405 KB 0.18% georgebush2000.net 2000-04-20 1,407 KB 0.11% poolgoods.com 2000-04-20 1,315 KB 0.10% golftravel.net 2000-04-20 1,284 KB 0.10% bioregion.com 2000-04-20 1,254 KB 0.10% primoincense.com 2000-04-20 994 KB 0.08% mysticalplaces.com 2000-04-20 978 KB 0.07% suzyamis.com 2000-04-20 934 KB 0.07% jefftv.com 2000-04-20 874 KB 0.07% motorblade.com 2000-04-20 702 KB 0.05% saveseed.com 2000-04-20 665 KB 0.05% webarter.net 2000-04-20 633 KB 0.05% lifespaces.com 2000-04-20 631 KB 0.05% divecruise.com 2000-04-20 630 KB 0.05% miniaturebooks.com 2000-04-20 625 KB 0.05% tvreviewer.com 2000-04-20 620 KB 0.05% workontheweb.com 2000-04-20 607 KB 0.05% wholetech.com 2000-04-20 582 KB 0.04% Total Disk Usage 1307.60 MB I think you'll see a big decline in spring.net's disk space soon. But don't worry about it Marcia! Use all you want."}, {"response": 453, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (19:03)", "body": "Thanks, Terry. Understand about the size of the files, and I try my utmost to keep them manageable - most especially the image ones. I know this also worried Wolfie who has not posted many pictures on her collecting conference since you mentioned about the bandwidth problems. Thanks for the clarifications. Log files are killers. My son just had to deal with the company-he-works-for's \"Log Jam\" and deleted an incredible amount of \"stuff\" which was no longer relevant."}, {"response": 454, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (20:22)", "body": "Y'all stop being paranoid. You are not the problem, you're the solution! Your a teeny, tiny drop in the bucket of our disk pool, but your content far outweighs the space you use. Don't worry. Be happy. Use our disk space for your noble pursuits. Keep on keepin' on."}, {"response": 455, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (20:51)", "body": "Yippee!!! Just What I needed to know... I shall not doubt again. Not being paranoid...just concerned about you and your commitment to Spring and its importance in our lives. The best people in the world post here. I *know* that! Now, I'll go convince Wolfie and we'll be back in business *grin*"}, {"response": 456, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (23:21)", "body": ""}, {"response": 457, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (02:06)", "body": "I've started a fundraiser on Austen.com, so I hope that pulls in some money for you. I'd be happy to try to cut down on the bandwidth, but I don't know how it all works. Would bandwidth decrease, if some of the often-loaded files were smaller? Any other ways to decrease it?"}, {"response": 458, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (09:19)", "body": "Your bandwidth was so high due to the chatroom, which no longer exists."}, {"response": 459, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (09:21)", "body": "Bandwidth is the amount of data flowing through the pipes, not the stored data."}, {"response": 460, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (10:30)", "body": "I wonder why chat rooms use so much bandwidth? I wonder if there's software that's less bandwidth intensive for this purpose?"}, {"response": 461, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (15:11)", "body": "Wondering even more why Sprin5 does not add Geo to his list so we can see recent posts there. Is he playing favorites? Shall I go on strike and not post until he does? I know it is accessable because when I telnetted, it gave me my entire conference list. He added springark and collecting but not Geo. Terry, meet you out in the alley in 5 minutes to slug this out!!!"}, {"response": 462, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (17:16)", "body": "I added Geo! (see, she beat me up in the alley, I'm getting treatment for all those bruises)."}, {"response": 463, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:24)", "body": "*giggle* If you only knew what a pussycat and pacifist I am... Thank you!"}, {"response": 464, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:33)", "body": "(Let's see what sort of match-up we'd make. I'm 5'6\" and about 120 pounds soaking wet on a fat day...)"}, {"response": 465, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:02)", "body": "now that terry is checking in more frequently...i have a question that may seem a selfish concern of mine but.... terry, how come i can't type in the url address: http://www.midnightwolf.net ? do i have to use the spring.net/wolf/index.html? (marcia, i'm shorter and, shamedly, outweigh you)....."}, {"response": 466, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:20)", "body": "(most medium-sized birds outweigh me, according to my mother! That is up from my eternal 116 pounds which was a little too skinny.) Can't answer the other question..."}, {"response": 467, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:25)", "body": ""}, {"response": 468, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:32)", "body": "Yup! I too hate being told I am too skinny like I did it on purpose. They don't say it any more. They ask me to share my secrets, now. I can lose weight sitting still. Twitch factor is the deal. At 100, I was way too thin even with my small bones - it's the long legs and long neck which stretches me out."}, {"response": 469, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:33)", "body": "Oh yeah, I can eat the house male under the table, too!"}, {"response": 470, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:36)", "body": "i'm small-boned with a short torso (the AM's taller but my jeans are longer than his!!) so the weight i lug around is really visible, you know? esp. since i carry it the german way, on the hips....(but i am working out *smile*)"}, {"response": 471, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:48)", "body": "I figured my \"twin\" sister would also be short-waisted...just as I am. Don't seem to carry weight in any particular place, though I suppose that is not a bad thing. If I had my druthers...*sigh*"}, {"response": 472, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (22:53)", "body": "i know what you mean. i used to joke about how i would move this to there, etc.!! (it even made my mom laugh)"}, {"response": 473, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (00:21)", "body": "Yup!"}, {"response": 474, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (22:12)", "body": "CHECK 'EM OUT BEFORE YOU GO OUT! WhatAJerk was developed as a public service to provide links to State and Government sites which maintain databases for registered sex offenders, missing children and deadbeat parents. We also provide a bulletin board where you can see if someone has posted information about a particular individual. Check them out before you: - Get emotionally involved - Go into business with that person - Move to a new neighborhood - Go to work for that person Better to be aware now than victimized later! http://ads.autojoker.com/redirect.cgi?AD=checkemout AOL Users: Know BEFORE you go!"}, {"response": 475, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (16:41)", "body": "Can anyone tell me why I cannot see any of the graphics on www.spring.net with my powerful and new desktop computer using Netscape 4.7 but I can see them with IE on my miserable little w 3.1 laptop?! Must I switch to IE for this computer, as well?"}, {"response": 476, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (18:36)", "body": "I may have to do some re-authoring of the main page. It doesn't happen on other pages does it?"}, {"response": 477, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (21:48)", "body": "I just deleted some files in the /tmp directory on baldur, our host machine. I got a call from Karen a bit ago saying folks couldn't post. That may fix it. If you're reading this it's fixed."}, {"response": 478, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (21:48)", "body": "It's fixed now. I'll call Karen R."}, {"response": 479, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (21:53)", "body": "I just let Marci know via dialpad, I didn't have KarenR's number handy."}, {"response": 480, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (21:54)", "body": "Thanks Terry, and I just emailed Karen no, it does not happen on any other place except www.spring.net"}, {"response": 481, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (21:57)", "body": "What happened is that the /tmp directory got full and I mistakenly told Karen I had no control over it. But I was wrong. I was actually able to go in and delete some files that were owned by sprin5. So next time I'll be able to fix it. Call me if it ever happens again as soon as it occurs! Thanks for the heads up Karen R!"}, {"response": 482, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "I shall call you. I am just shy on the phone...I could have alerted you immediately after it happened. I did send you 2 emails..."}, {"response": 483, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (23:12)", "body": "Thanks, how it gets done is not important...just that it gets done. :-) Maybe that /tmp directory should get regularly dumped...like once a week???"}, {"response": 484, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (00:01)", "body": "Btw, while the Spring was frozen, did anyone notice the mess it made of our hotlists? Phantom posts were listed and empty when accessed. Curious! Great idea, Karen!"}, {"response": 485, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (07:51)", "body": "Yep, I'll start checking it regularly."}, {"response": 486, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (07:54)", "body": "Right now it's empty, it has one subdirectory. $ cd /tmp $ ls -l total 1 drwx------ 2 missi2 user 512 Apr 20 11:25 ssh-missi."}, {"response": 487, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (16:48)", "body": "There seems to be problems on Austen.com. Our boards have disappeared, my mailbox is gone, and I can't even FTP in. Any idea what's wrong? It was working earlier this afternoon, but stopped functioning around 2pm or so. The main pages of the site are still working, it's just the CGI scripts and FTP access that is busted. (If I can't get in, I can't even take a look round to figure out what's wrong.)"}, {"response": 488, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:27)", "body": "All of Austen.com seems to be down now. Can't get in at all. :("}, {"response": 489, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:36)", "body": "I'll check it out."}, {"response": 490, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:50)", "body": "I can't figure out what's going on, it's at our hosting service, I can ping it but I can't telnet to it, ftp to it, or anything. So I'm leaving voicemail and email for mike, the sysad guy."}, {"response": 491, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:51)", "body": "terry see my topic in projects. maybe this is the answer to my question..."}, {"response": 492, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:51)", "body": "OK I'll look, wolf."}, {"response": 493, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:02)", "body": "I looked and set up an ftp account, well, go to projects for the details."}, {"response": 494, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:39)", "body": "I sent an e-mail to Digihost too. Thanks for taking a look, Terry!"}, {"response": 495, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:48)", "body": "Thanks, Ann. Maybe they'll catch the email, the office closes at 5 pm EST. So if anyone ever catches an outage like this try and make a voice call to me before 4 pm CST, 5 pm EST, if at all possible. I'll look into setting up a backup server with a different name."}, {"response": 496, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (20:38)", "body": "Btw, Ann, that is a great page with the plea for help with funding - any response?"}, {"response": 497, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (21:09)", "body": "I got a response today, $50 check. Thank you!"}, {"response": 498, "author": "Moon", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (21:40)", "body": "Connection refused -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description: Connection refused This is what I get trying to enter DWG. I hope it will be up soon."}, {"response": 499, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (22:27)", "body": "It was up earlier for me. Just the message boards were down. Oh dear!"}, {"response": 500, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (06:42)", "body": "We should be able to get things back up this morning when our server facility opens around 8 am EST or in about and hour and fifteen minutes from now."}, {"response": 501, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (08:27)", "body": "It looks like our hosts Apache webserver is down right now because I can telnet in but I can't get to the site via the web. I just got email from Gena who's having the same problem. I'm in touch with our site hosts via email and am trying to get through via phone right now."}, {"response": 502, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (10:18)", "body": "Now we're back up!"}, {"response": 503, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (10:45)", "body": "We're back! Thanks for the help, Terry :) [This might scare people into donating too! :) A lot of people have asked me whether the crash was connnected to the lack of money.]"}, {"response": 504, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (10:49)", "body": "Nope, not connected, is was a disk error on the server. I thought it might have been the Apache webserver, but that was not the case. I'm setting up a couple of backups for future outages, if they occur. If it's ok with the authors and denizens of austen.com, we'll tell springeurs to go check the austen.com board in the event of an outage and we'll tell austhe.com folks to post on the old austen conference on spring if an outage occurs there. It would be extremely unlikely both would go down at the same time, as they're on totally different server machines."}, {"response": 505, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (10:53)", "body": "No need, Terry, we here at Drool have our own emergency backups--a listserv and a message board over at Insidetheweb (as does austen.com)."}, {"response": 506, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (11:02)", "body": "Yep, we have a couple off-site back-ups. We've got a couple bulletin boards at InsideTheWeb (which is why I pointed out we could move our boards off-site if costs of them became prohibitted) and we now have an off-site chat room. I was thinking, though, Terry, maybe you should write up some sort of an introduction to the Spring page. I could post it over on the Tea Room board, to give people an idea of what's available at the Spring. Right now, most probably barely know it exists."}, {"response": 507, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (11:16)", "body": "Ann, have you tried out the chatroom facilities advertised at the top of the Insidetheweb board from a place called Beseen.com (or something like that?) Haven't been to your alternate chat sites. What's the name of it at AT&T?"}, {"response": 508, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (11:24)", "body": "beseen.com isn't good at all, we've been there."}, {"response": 509, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (12:01)", "body": "Thanks Ann, I'll post something in the tea room. I'm trying to impart some more content besides just the conferences to the Spring."}, {"response": 510, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (15:16)", "body": "I think I was the only one who liked the BeSeen rooms :( At ATT, we use the name \"Austen\". See you there!"}, {"response": 511, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (16:25)", "body": "Didn't see that in the Dropdown box."}, {"response": 512, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (23:17)", "body": "No, you have to create it as a private room. I have instructions on the Tea Room board--with pictures and everything. Instructions on getting in ."}, {"response": 513, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "...thanks, although when I went looking for it, the Tea Room wasn't there. ;-) And I have to register, right?"}, {"response": 514, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (11:15)", "body": "Yep, you have to register. I usually lie when I register on sites. I'm often a 50 something male janitor names Peter Shrinks."}, {"response": 515, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (11:53)", "body": "*lol* Love your nom de guerre!"}, {"response": 516, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 5, 2000 (16:57)", "body": "Please check the updates on your virus checker - especially if you are using MS Outlook program and Internet Explorer. Three files you should NOT open if they show up in your inbox are I LOVE YOU, VERYFUNNY, and JOKE. Check your download file for anything they might have put in there, as well."}, {"response": 517, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 5, 2000 (18:36)", "body": "'Love Bug' Takes New Forms to Smite Users Friday - 16:30 05/05/2000, EST NEW YORK (Reuters) - Copycat variants of the ``Love Bug'' virus labeled ``Joke'' and ``Mother's Day'' infected computers around the world on Friday, a day after the most widespread cyberattack ever wreaked havoc on business and government operations. Tens of millions of computers have been disabled so far, as the virus, first detected in Asia, spread around the globe, forcing network administrators to shut down e-mail systems at major companies and penetrating the Pentagon, the Central Intelligence Agency and Britain's Parliament. Security experts said the virus was far more devastating than last year's Melissa bug, with losses now counting in the billions from damaged data and the distractions of fighting the software scourge, and warned that it could take a while to stem the invasion. By one estimate, approximately 45 million computers around the world have been infected by various strains of the virus, according to Computer Economics, a research firm in Carlsbad, Calif. ``We estimate $2.61 billion of damage has been done,'' said Samir Bhavnani, a research analyst with Computer Economics. ``By Wednesday, the total can reach $10 billion. We see damages growing by $1 billion to $1.5 billion a day until the virus is eradicated.'' Other experts said actual damage estimates would be harder to pin down. Sal Viveros, group manager for Network Associates' (NETA.O) Total Virus Defense, told a conference call of reporters that his researchers have found as many of five different variants of the virus, although he didn't yet have details of the specifics of the variants. Business software maker Computer Associates International said it was relatively easy to create new strains of the virus. ``There's a potential that anyone who receives this virus can go to the Internet and (find) tools to change codes within the virus program that can give the e-mail or the attachment a new name,'' said Simon Perry, vice president for security products at Computer Associates International Inc. (CA.N). The Islandia, N.Y. is a leading maker of anti-virus software such as InoculateIT. For the time being, most of the virus variants are only cosmetically different from the original virus. ``Based on our research, we believe that the variants are coming from a number of different people,'' Perry said. LOVE BUG TAKES NEW FORMS TO TRICK USERS Technically, the software scourge is known as a worm, not a virus. ``Worms have the ability to self-replicate; viruses do not,'' said Jeff Carpenter, a security expert with the Computer Emergency Response Team, a Defense Dept.-funded clearinghouse at Carnegie-Mellon University in Pittsburgh. The original worm ``ILOVEYOU,'' works by enticing e-mail recipients to open an attached letter, only to cripple their e-mail systems. This so-called Love Bug continued to pop up in e-mail systems on Friday, even as variants appeared to pose new tricks for computer users. But the effect is unchanged: Upon opening the attachment using Microsoft software such as the Outlook program, it sends a copy of the worm to everyone in the user's address book and seeks to destroy a variety of files throughout a computer network, including picture and music files. The worm is being sent as an e-mail attachment and many sites are experiencing significantly increased electronic mail traffic. The worm can spread through network disk drives, Web pages, and via IRC (Internet Relay Chat), a communications system popular with computer aficionados, experts said. The damage is limited to users of the Microsoft Windows operating system, said Gene Hodges, president of McAfee, a maker of anti-virus software and a unit of Network Associates. ``We've seen no evidence of affected users of Apple, Linux or Unix operating systems,'' he added. In one new version designed to spoil the upcoming ``Mother's Day'' holiday that will be celebrated in the United States on May 14, a variant of LoveLetter sends e-mails which appear to be a confirmation of an electronic gift order. ``The Mother's Day version of this worm is quite cunning,'' said Mikko Hypponen, manager of anti-virus research at computer security firm F-Secure Corp.'s laboratories in Helsinki, Finland. ``The e-mail appears to be a confirmation of an order for 'Mother's Day diamond special,' and the attached file mothersday.vbs is portrayed as if it were an invoice. With only eight days to go until Mother's Day, this attack is quite credible,'' he said. F-Secure has identified five variants so far in its efforts to keep pace with the worldwide assault. Another variant appears to have originated in Lithuania, in which the subject line reads, ``Susitikem shi vakara kavos puodukui.'' In Lithuanian, the sentence translates into: ``Let's meet this evening for coffee.'' And still another has ``fwd: Joke'' in the subject line and an attached file called ``Very Funny.vbs,'' which when opened has a similar impact as the ``Love Bug"}, {"response": 518, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (10:49)", "body": "Austen.com seems to be doing something strange. I am getting intermittent Internal Server Errors on my CGI boards. It will happen, then not happen the next time I try to click on something, then happen again, on and off. Very strange...might presage something nasty."}, {"response": 519, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (11:54)", "body": "Austen.com's boards seem to be down completely now :("}, {"response": 520, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (15:33)", "body": "Yesterday I had temporary trouble with FTP but it was resolved just in time for a post using an ephemeral internet source to be scribbled and replaced with the FTP'd diagram we needed to have reliably on the topic. Have not needed to use FTP today yet, so I don't know how it is faring now."}, {"response": 521, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "I too could not get in. This is what I get: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, auste3@austen.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log."}, {"response": 522, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (16:02)", "body": "I typed austen.com on Netcape and voila! I am in and all seems to be in working order."}, {"response": 523, "author": "viola", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (16:54)", "body": "voila viola, Maggie's here with me and she's rather MAD!"}, {"response": 524, "author": "viola", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (16:55)", "body": "Spanna and maggia say HI! Bye the way, thankyou for the hug, Marcia. Here's one in return... *Hug!*"}, {"response": 525, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (16:58)", "body": "Oooh! Lovely stuff, Viola! Thanks for the hug! Sit on her and put cold compresses on her if Maggie gets too far out of hand. Can't take chances with ladies like her *grin* Aloha all! Behave yourselves and remember to say thank you and wash your hands and..."}, {"response": 526, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (17:02)", "body": "Austen is still acting weird. One minute it works and the next it doesn't. I don't understand how that happens :("}, {"response": 527, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (17:03)", "body": "Oh dear...Terry!?! Where are you?"}, {"response": 528, "author": "viola", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (17:04)", "body": "*Disapproving look from T.* (The gang's all here!) Just finished a concert and maggie and Tony enjoyed my MARVELLOUS singing and timpani playing, but then again, I am Brilliant! (I can't understand why maggie is rolling around on the floor in hysterics...!)"}, {"response": 529, "author": "viola", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (17:06)", "body": "(Marcia: maggie's not allowed to open her emails until tomorrow because we've had to lock her away for the evening. I'm sure you'll understand.)"}, {"response": 530, "author": "viola", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (17:07)", "body": "(Marcia: Gotta go, Tony wants to drive home. Bye!! From Viola, maggie, spanna, and Tony!)"}, {"response": 531, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (17:23)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 532, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (17:46)", "body": "Sorry about the pitch invasion - circumstances beyond my control! I shall send her back to Geo! (and she's not mine - honest!)"}, {"response": 533, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (18:33)", "body": "YeahYeahYeah....*grin*"}, {"response": 534, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (15:19)", "body": "The problem is still going on at Austen. Digihost e-mailed me saying it should be fixed now, but it isn't :("}, {"response": 535, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (15:58)", "body": "OK, I'll call and email them today. I haven't experienced any problems today in some thorough testing I did. I made sure the /tmp file wasn't full."}, {"response": 536, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (16:03)", "body": "Still getting internal server errors, but only on the tea room, everything else is fine. Totally bizarre, it happened here at drool earlier this AM as well. Don't remember what time."}, {"response": 537, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (16:12)", "body": "I'll open a top session at austen.com and see what processes are running on austen. Maybe I can see what the problem is by this method."}, {"response": 538, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (16:21)", "body": "All I see is that root is running a telnet session that's using 42% of the cpu process time, an unusually high amount for a telnet session. load averages: 9.21, 6.59, 4.89 16:20:23 176 processes: 11 running, 163 sleeping, 2 zombie CPU states: 27.8% user, 0.0% nice, 72.2% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0%idle Memory: Real: 60M/103M Virt: 582M/1385M Free: 104M PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 1186 root 101 0 328K 452K run/0 23.1H 44.92% 44.92% telnet 4348 cmaco2 39 0 216K 540K run/0 0:02 2.59% 2.59% popper 14132 www 2 0 4568K 3232K sleep 1:49 0.93% 0.93% pnserver 9900 agenc2 2 0 208K 512K sleep 0:00 1.36% 0.68% popper 10065 root -14 0 1184K 1424K sleep 0:00 6.66% 0.63% sendmail 10063 root 30 0 1184K 1424K run/0 0:00 6.15% 0.59% sendmail 10061 root 30 0 1236K 1504K run/0 0:00 3.50% 0.49% sendmail 10066 root 10 0 1236K 1136K sleep 0:00 1.03% 0.10% sendmail 10080 root 2 0 1244K 1264K sleep 0:00 2.00% 0.10% sendmail 10059 root -5 0 1300K 1120K sleep 0:00 0.70% 0.10% sendmail 10071 root -6 0 1300K 1248K sleep 0:00 1.03% 0.10% sendmail 10069 root 28 0 1236K 1216K run/0 0:00 0.51% 0.05% sendmail 8598 www 28 0 8496K 1108K run/0 0:00 0.05% 0.05% httpd 10054 root 10 0 1300K 1164K sleep 0:00 0.35% 0.05% sendmail 10053 root 10 0 1236K 1104K sleep 0:00 0.35% 0.05% sendmail"}, {"response": 539, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (22:03)", "body": "Okay, that means next to nothing for me;) Terry, how 'bout translating?"}, {"response": 540, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, May 12, 2000 (00:33)", "body": "Why is 'root' running a telnet session??? Is it necissary? can it be shut down?"}, {"response": 541, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (10:13)", "body": "Hi, fellas--can you restore the log in button to Spring's home page? Many thanks from those of us who share our computer and can't bookmark the site. :-)"}, {"response": 542, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (13:58)", "body": "Austen.com is still having tons of problems. The CGI boards are practically shut down. You have to keep trying to reload the page about a dozen times before you'll be able to get it to load :("}, {"response": 543, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (14:33)", "body": "Log button resotred. I sent more email to the hosts. They say it's fixed now. But Ann says not. So I forwarded Ann's email to them. Send email to support@digihost.com describing what's going wrong and be sure to mention the url, austen.com."}, {"response": 544, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (14:35)", "body": "More correspondence sent to Ann from Digihost regarding the problem, they want more specifics about what's happening."}, {"response": 545, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (21:05)", "body": "I sent them sample URL's where there are problems and the fact that it happens sometimes and sometimes not."}, {"response": 546, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Wed, May 17, 2000 (11:50)", "body": "Log button resotred. Thanks!"}, {"response": 547, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (00:00)", "body": "Austen.com is working again :)"}, {"response": 548, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (00:08)", "body": "Maybe they said the magic words - it more than a little resembles smoke and mirrors they way they do things at DigiHost!"}, {"response": 549, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (14:57)", "body": "I moved it from the far right side of the screen to the left side as well, I guess folks couldn't see it all the way on the right side of the screen."}, {"response": 550, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (15:19)", "body": "Even with Netscape at full screen and my monitor adjusted to eliminate wrap-under, I still cannot see the right side unless I scroll over to do so. I still wonder if I will ever be able to see the pictures there! Without installing IE, that is..."}, {"response": 551, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (22:12)", "body": "I need to do a maor revision on the spring.net main page. I need to work with a team, are some of the folks who worked on austen.com interested in helping with this?"}, {"response": 552, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (22:18)", "body": "That would be me, Terry. Sure, I can help. Let me know what you are looking for."}, {"response": 553, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (22:22)", "body": "Mostly, a fresh vision. It's too much of a one man show. I'd love to give you permission to just go in and revise our page! Will you have a crack at it?"}, {"response": 554, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (22:22)", "body": "Send me the password, and I can clean up the page so all the images and links work. They we can talk about what you want it to look like."}, {"response": 555, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "I see you're on right now :)"}, {"response": 556, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (22:25)", "body": "I see my e-mail isn't right here...it should be ann@austen.com"}, {"response": 557, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (00:01)", "body": "Will changes on the main Spring page affect my Bucket pages? Or have you figured out how to exclude my directory?"}, {"response": 558, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (00:01)", "body": "There is a new conference at Spring. Please check it out... http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/crafts/all/new Terry, is there anything I know enough about to be helpful to you? I am ever willing but also know my limitations..."}, {"response": 559, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (00:45)", "body": "You know about a lot of things - radio, sports, earth sciences, hawaii that are helpful to my understanding of these topics. Crafts is a real good conference idea. I wonder if you could get some crafts websites to link to it by emailing the folks that run them?"}, {"response": 560, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (01:39)", "body": "Wolfie is the webring expert - I'm still hunting for one for Geo which is appropriate. I'll let her connect us with the outer world. Thanks for the suggestions and the compliments *blush* Right now I am on the laptop because I installed Norton Utilities anti virus and it has frozen my big PC and I cannot get it to reboot completely - keeps shutting me down. Any suggestions???"}, {"response": 561, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (04:11)", "body": "Okay, I went ahead and reformatted the front page of the site. I hope I have all the links and images working, and have everything formatted so that it all fits on everyone's screen. The only thing I didn't get working was the hit counter at the bottom. Any one having problems with the new formatting?"}, {"response": 562, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (04:18)", "body": "Hmmm, the Real Player things aren't working on the front. For some reason they are trying to access something on the austen.com site. I'm getting a file not found error for: pnm://austen.com:7070/auste3/live.ra Don't know what that's doing in there. The only thing on the page that refers to Austen is the link in the what's cool section."}, {"response": 563, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (06:32)", "body": "Wow, that's a great start Ann. Do you find it hard reworking Frontpage stuff? Feel free to get more creative and throw in plugs for Austen, Firth or whatever you like."}, {"response": 564, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (17:43)", "body": "Terry: What's going on? These Internal Server Errors keep popping up. Have to hit Reload several times and then it goes through."}, {"response": 565, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (18:06)", "body": "It is very spotty. I still have to go to main before I can get anything but the error message. Ann, I can see your front page! Thank you forever for that. My Geo globe is finally visible! Yippee!!!"}, {"response": 566, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (18:07)", "body": "Karen, thanks for suggesting hitting the reload button to get the posts through. It really works...*whew*"}, {"response": 567, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (19:22)", "body": "It does work but it's a pain, I'm looking at the server now."}, {"response": 568, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (19:51)", "body": "Terry, this sounds like the same problem Austen.com was having last week. Our HTML pages were working, but our CGI pages weren't."}, {"response": 569, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (19:57)", "body": "It just took me 7 hits of the reload to read your message - still not fixed even if Mike of DigiHost is logged on..."}, {"response": 570, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (20:24)", "body": "I noticed the same thing Ann about your pages too. My Bucket HTML pages were OK, but the Conference (yapp-bin stuff) wasn't. Might help isolating the problem."}, {"response": 571, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (20:55)", "body": "This is a royal drag....Is the problem with Digihost? Spring? How come Pemberley never has that problem?"}, {"response": 572, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (20:55)", "body": "I checked running non-yapp programs like Digihosts own administration program and was getting the same errors, this would indicate that it's not a Yapp problem rather a server problme."}, {"response": 573, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (20:55)", "body": "slippage."}, {"response": 574, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (21:01)", "body": "Is anyone home there? I see that Mike at DigiHost is logged on most of the time. It makes me wonder if he just turns it on and leaves, giving the semblance of being active when he is not, in fact..."}, {"response": 575, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "I've been fiddling with the front page again: http://www.spring.net Any ideas folks? Any suggestions?"}, {"response": 576, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (22:04)", "body": "Looks great! I like the way you put the login and signup on the left on the table with the conference titles. (Can you add Crafts, please?) Like the smaller font used at the bottom and the spacing, as well. Not sure about the middle - it needs to be renewed fairly often if we are going to go for post from certain conferences - but that is Terry's call and this is just my opinion."}, {"response": 577, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (22:06)", "body": "Go Ann, Go. Stands up and cheers. Can I be your cheerleader section! Go wild! Make some big changes! Give me an A. Give me and N. Give me another N! Go Ann!!!!"}, {"response": 578, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (08:33)", "body": "Please get in touch with me if you have any ideas for courses we could run online and tie in with the Spring conferences. This may be the mmost important project the Spring has ever undertaken and is vital for our future growth. Please pass the word around about this. We're looking for courses based on topics in all our conferences and courses around the works of Jane Austen and her novels and adaptations. This will become a growing venture within the Spring with funding going to the community as a whole and the participants in the project. Scale of importance: Extremely high priority, urgent!"}, {"response": 579, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (08:39)", "body": "I'd really like to get a preliminary proposal together by Friday and would love to see some discussion of this around the Spring."}, {"response": 580, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (00:13)", "body": "This could cause problems here too.... Magnetic storm may disrupt pagers, broadcasts It's caused by the eruption of a giant sunspot, scientists say By Helen Altonn Star-Bulletin A magnetic storm this weekend could disrupt radio transmissions and satellites and produce colorful northern lights visible over most of the mainland. Islanders aren't likely to see the aurora, which is rarely visible this far south, said University of Hawaii astronomer Donald Mickey. A full moon also would make it difficult to see, he said. As for whether television, pager and radio reception will be affected, he said: \"We don't know how to forecast these effects in enough detail so far to be able to tell whether TVs will be affected.\" He said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecasters in Colorado expect the storm \"to be large, but probably not devastating.\" NOAA scientists reported that the solar flare already has caused some radio blackouts. The sun may be nearing the peak of its 11-year cycle, known as solar maximum, Mickey said. \"You never know (if you reach the peak) until it starts going down again.\" A giant sunspot eruption just after midnight Hawaii time yesterday triggered the magnetic storm. Billions of tons of plasma and charged particles were ejected into space, some at 3 million miles an hour, NOAA scientists said. The mass ejection was expected to hit the Earth's magnetic field this afternoon and cause the geomagnetic storm. Mickey said the eruption was the biggest this cycle but there haven't been many. \"We've been sort of wondering, expecting more big flares, and that hasn't happened so far.\" Sometimes larger flares happen later in the cycle, he said. The latest eruption occurred in a very complex magnetic region near the visible part of the sun, Mickey said. \"When a large flare like this is at the surface, sometimes -- and this is one of those cases -- an amount of corona gets ejected into interplanetary space, leaving sort of a hole in the corona and sending basically a cloud of plasma out away from the sun,\" he said. Cameras on the NASA spacecraft SOHO, positioned to look continuously at the sun, showed the ejection \"and within minutes, the cameras were hit by clouds of very fast protons that showed up as snow on the images,\" Mickey said. A severe solar storm in 1989 knocked out power stations serving Canada and northeastern states, and an electrical transformer in New Jersey. UH astronomers are collaborating with scientists around the country to study the solar maximum. Mickey said they're setting up interdisciplinary studies \"that will try to understand this all the way from the sun to Earth and how it affects things we do in our daily lives.\""}, {"response": 581, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (09:23)", "body": "I wonder if this will affect local vhf/uhf?"}, {"response": 582, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (15:49)", "body": "Nothing noted here.....but it is not yet over. Would love reports of any adverse effects from this extraordianry event."}, {"response": 583, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (08:54)", "body": "Help! Help! Help! The counter I installed on my Bridget Jones page stopped working yesterday. I've had it up there since July 5 and then suddenly yesterday it stopped. The message within the counter reads: \"could not create data files /var/Counter/data/x.dat\" I tried another counter from the Webhosting features page, but got the same thing. Looks to me like something isn't working on the server. Here's the url of my Bridget page. http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/bjd.html Also, how do I look at stats?"}, {"response": 584, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (13:07)", "body": "I can install the Frontpage 2000 counter if you like, Karen. Would you like me to do this? Do you have Frontpage?"}, {"response": 585, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (13:37)", "body": "No, I do not have Frontpage. But why did the counter stop working? Aren't those digihost counters? I'm kind of particular about the design of the counter. Where can I see samples?"}, {"response": 586, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jul 23, 2000 (12:02)", "body": "I'll set up a counter test page and get the url to you."}, {"response": 587, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Jul 23, 2000 (12:34)", "body": "Have contacted Digihost and they have fixed the problem. My counter now works. Thanks anyway."}, {"response": 588, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jul 24, 2000 (21:02)", "body": "Good news!"}, {"response": 589, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Aug 30, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "The Spring went down earlier tonight and I got on the phone long distance to Kaylene Thaler in Seattle and after and exchange of emails she fixed the problem. I'm going to run a little fundraiser to help pay her expenses for keeping this community's software running. Sure, thanks for helping again as you have many times before, Kaylene. Terry > > It's fixed. Your license file had been trashed. I'm not > sure how it happened but it is fixed. By the way, I have > been holding onto the invoice for transfering you to this > new system to give you time to figure out your cash flow, > and to make sure everything was running smoothly. > How are things looking now? I'd like to send out the invoice > for the help to move systems, as well as the unpaid invoice > for the upgrade on your license file to the current use level. > > Kaylene > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sprin5@baldur.domainnameservers.net > > [mailto:sprin5@baldur.domainnameservers.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:43 PM > > To: kaylene@armidalesoftware.com > > Subject: error on spring.net > > > > > > baldur:/tmp $ bbs > > Invalid checksum > > Couldn't get license for baldur.domainnameservers.net > > baldur:/tmp $ > > > > How do I fix this Kaylene, the Spring is down. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Terry > > > > >"}, {"response": 590, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (00:16)", "body": "Gotcha Terry - I 'll try my best to help"}, {"response": 591, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (09:20)", "body": "After some more checking, it seems that you may have hit the license limit yesterday. (note the error log said you ran out of hits with about 3 minutes left to go) this is probably related to the problem with your licence file. The usage history seems to indicate that on most days you are between 3000 and 5000 hits, but occationally you get up in the 6000 + range. If you pay for the 64 user license (which you currently have), I'll consider bumping the hit limit substanially at no additional charge. Kaylene"}, {"response": 592, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (17:32)", "body": "Kaylene, that would be fantastic! Long live Yapp software and the esteemed creators. Hawaiian Hugs!"}, {"response": 593, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (09:43)", "body": "The hits are cumulative of all the users. Right now you have paid for the 16 user/ 1600 hit licence. ( I don't mind if places need a 3000 hit license for the occasional heavy day safety net). However, you are consistantly above the 3000 hit level, and periodically above 6000 which definately takes you well into the next license level. I will cushion the 6400 so that if you average around 6400, and have an occational heavy day you are still fine, but you need to pay for that level of a license. Kaylene"}, {"response": 594, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 2, 2001 (06:49)", "body": "We 're at the larger license now thanks to the great support of Spring donors and contributors!"}, {"response": 595, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, May 16, 2001 (08:23)", "body": "What time is this place on? Isn't GMT, so is the server somewhere in Ireland maybe? ;-D Let's standardize on US Eastern time. OK?"}, {"response": 596, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 16, 2001 (09:34)", "body": "I thought I set it for Chicago time, CST, the other day."}, {"response": 597, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, May 16, 2001 (12:14)", "body": "What time is this place on? Isn't GMT, so is the server somewhere in Ireland maybe? ;-D } I noticed that too! I had to have my boards subtract 5 hours to match CT. Where is Datapipe??"}, {"response": 598, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 16, 2001 (12:42)", "body": "New Jersey."}, {"response": 599, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, May 16, 2001 (13:06)", "body": "I'd prefer Eastern time as the standard for Drool. Of course, I know what time it is where I am."}, {"response": 600, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, May 16, 2001 (14:37)", "body": "I'd prefer Eastern time as the standard for Drool. Of course, I know what time it is where I am. } I like confusing people by using CT. I'm a midwesterner and proud of it! No coastal-centrism for me :)"}, {"response": 601, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 16, 2001 (22:13)", "body": "I changed it and got it working, then it reverted back. Back to the drawing board. austen.com and all our servers are in the process of moving, including firth, to our own name servers. We can use our name servers to point to any server we want, as long as it has an ip address. ns1.spring.net is our primary name server now and ns2.datapipe.com is our slave, secondary name server. Keep an eye on our websites and let me know if you have any connection problems, I'd like to know sooner rather than later!"}, {"response": 602, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (10:05)", "body": "According the clock, we're somewhere in Europe again. ;-D"}, {"response": 603, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 20, 2001 (11:10)", "body": "I'll take another run at this."}, {"response": 604, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:34)", "body": "An editorial worth reading. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,248-2001320966,00.html A sample from that editorial: \"We know \ufffd do we not? \ufffd that with every year that passes, every thousandth link-up to the Internet, every millionth new mobile phone, it becomes less necessary for conspirators to meet physically in one place in order to conspire. The day is coming, perhaps has already come, when terrorists will not need to gather in camps. There will be no HQs to bomb, no cells to track down, no tents to ransack. The concept of host country as geographical location for a terrorist group may already be too weak to bear weight, certainly too weak to justify revenge-bombing of the uninvolved. All we will be able to allege will be the \ufffdhospitality\ufffd or \ufffdambiguity\ufffd shown by some governments to shadowy figures who flit in and out of their territories."}, {"response": 605, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (18:41)", "body": "More David Kline, the onetime war correspondent in Afghanistan. I was there when the first Taliban units were seen in Afghanistan circa 1986. They were all composed of Saudi and other foreign volunteers, and few took them very seriously since they did little actual fighting against the Russians. But they quickly allied with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezbi Islami group -- i.e., the fundamentalist wing of the Afghan resistance -- which was receiving the bulk of US arms and aid via Pakistani intelligence (SIS). Then, amidst the confusion and infighting within the resistance following the Soviet withdrawal, the Pak's chose to channel almost all their material support to the Taliban, who used it to gain power over a divided resistance movement and a peoiple utterly exhausted by war. I'd wager that if a free & fair referendum were conducted in Afghanistan today, the Taliban would receive fewer than 5% of the votes. Their army is largely conscript, their most fervent supporters are unsophisticated teenagers insulated in Taliban religious schools. Nothing they say or do has any relationship to historic Afghan customs & attitudes."}, {"response": 606, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2002 (00:05)", "body": "we're back. I just cannot post on Drool. I have no idea why... porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 44, "subject": "The Fabulous Market Babe", "response_count": 43, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (17:40)", "body": "just don't expect any etiquette..."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (00:00)", "body": "OK babe, how about some babelore. Tell us the scoop. Give us the details."}, {"response": 3, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (06:08)", "body": "Can't wait! I have to run - damn, going to be late!!!!!! Bugger!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (07:54)", "body": "Late for ?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (08:04)", "body": "a very important date..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (09:20)", "body": "I WAS late, and AM pi$$ed off with myself for that. And I'm glad it's over, and went well - it was as meeting with the CD producer who was interested in my work for his CD covers. Happy to report that he still is, even though I was late. And relieved that I got on very well with him - not something I can ever take for granted."}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (13:02)", "body": "that is, like, way cool, riette! hope he signs you up!!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (14:14)", "body": "He did - very lucky for me. Doesn't bring much money, but publicity has never hurt any poverty stricken artist!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (16:45)", "body": "We'll be eagerly looking for the next Yanni CD!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (19:05)", "body": "yeah, riette, who's CD are you designing? (hi autumn!)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (22:17)", "body": "Hey Wolf, you there?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (22:20)", "body": "yupper!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (22:33)", "body": "Did I hear you're going away again??"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (22:41)", "body": "yeah, but it's not official. just figure i'll be off before i know it cuz of my level ii certification."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (00:35)", "body": "Why is she a babe? Why is she fabulous? Will we ever get beyond these wham bam thank you m'am encounters?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (01:14)", "body": "or at least get a reciprocal link..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (02:20)", "body": "They just love ya and leave ya! Or maybe she's just playing hard to get. I don't know - other women are so complicated!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (01:59)", "body": "got this topic linked into the Direct Public Offering and Direct Stock Market confs at http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/dpo/all and http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/dsm/all so, if you want to generate traffic here, Market Babe, please do so...and, if you would like your own conference and will link to it from your site, I will set it up for you...just please become an active part of our little community instead of just using us for free advertising! thanks"}, {"response": 19, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (04:44)", "body": "Don't you just feel used when people do that?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (04:45)", "body": "I say if she doesn't come back within a week, we scrap her topic."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (09:47)", "body": "Did we link this to babes also?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (11:49)", "body": "not yet...haven't logged in as wer so I can delete the one in there... plan to do so, however..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (12:28)", "body": "It is linked to Babes. Kill the bitch! ha-ha!!!! Just hope she doesn't come back now, otherwise I'll be a DEAD bitch!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (17:35)", "body": "yep, as Riette has reported, this topic is now linked to Babes... will link it to the homepage conf tonight, I think..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (17:43)", "body": "DIE DIE FABULOUS MARKET DARLING!!!!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (22:33)", "body": "ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I am in tears over here!!)"}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (22:34)", "body": "well, yeah, it was rather presumptuous of her to post herself as a babe topic...i don't get it *airhead grin*"}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (01:34)", "body": "And I was scared the bitch was going to upstage us! But it looks like she couldn't come properly...."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (21:43)", "body": "Does anyone have her email? Can we invite her back? She's fab. She's babe. She's gone awol."}, {"response": 30, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (01:33)", "body": "NOOOOOOOO, please, I'd feel too awful!!! And she may be a fab babe, but she's also into marketing, remember? Wer was probably right when he suspected she was using us for free advertizing. Estate agents don't log into the spring - they show houses, and make money, stuff like that."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (08:04)", "body": "OK, OK."}, {"response": 32, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (11:32)", "body": "I owe you."}, {"response": 33, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (07:58)", "body": "I'm going to freeze and kill this topic, since I'm not an advert freak :) Any objections mail them to you@yourself.com :-)"}, {"response": 34, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (11:34)", "body": "I said it long ago - kill the bitch!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (15:30)", "body": "Ding Ding .. the wicked babe is dead."}, {"response": 36, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (23:31)", "body": "But the Blob lives on in Screwed!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 27, 1998 (04:47)", "body": "There had to be SOMETHING left of her!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (18:24)", "body": "Or is this where I should be asking for suggested websites concerning Stock Market investing...?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (18:29)", "body": "Terry, where should I be asking my question? Not this non-vocal former whatever's own advertizing topic, surely! I am bummed to the max and lost down here."}, {"response": 40, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (19:24)", "body": "Ask in business (you already have and I've already answered)."}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (19:41)", "body": "Exiting this site...thank you!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (21:29)", "body": "No sweatola."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 21, 2001 (03:49)", "body": "Ain't seen the fab babe for a while, test post. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 45, "subject": "What does your conference list look like?", "response_count": 61, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (10:48)", "body": "Mine: farm sports web spirit yapp apps fitness music dpo cultures dsm newtest media internet tv movies politics books politics environment food austin community sex radio poetry restaurants projects porch travel computer windows techbusiness art deeper austentest parent home capcity homepage austenarchive middlemarch drool unix hoa hammer education nh cars minds bronte medieval vc spirit apps farrawae motorcycle garden philosophy babes song cfp news genx justice science peacemaker modjane"}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (10:59)", "body": "apps web media internet tv politics books environment food austin sex restaurants projects porch travel computer windows techbusiness art parent capcity homepage unix education minds medieval vc spirit garden health science poetry music cultures community movies cfp song farrawae farm home news genx babes drool radio fitness nh justice philosophy modjane yapp screwed dpo dsm peacemaker"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:03)", "body": "scratch peacemaker, I guess it's a private club..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:37)", "body": "You can email the hosts for admission. Not too active yet though."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (13:42)", "body": "I'll telnet in later..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (14:18)", "body": "Wow, you guys have alot!!! Mine, the ones I can think of off-hand: music poetry art philosophy restaurants travel food screwed movies babes porch news science genx"}, {"response": 7, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (14:19)", "body": "And the ones I forgot: tv sex cultures"}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (19:31)", "body": "what? you mean the ones we list on our very own list?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (20:00)", "body": "Yep, thems it."}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (12:10)", "body": "ok, i got it! music web tv movies books food community poetry restaurants porch travel art home homepage drool medieval spirit garden philosophy babes news genx screwed"}, {"response": 11, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (14:21)", "body": "cultures tv books movies porch philosophy food health home genx restaurants art parent babes screwed Didn't even realize there was a music one! I'll have to surf on over one of these days and see if anyone else enjoys listening to Bobby Goldsboro :-)"}, {"response": 12, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (14:32)", "body": "Bobby who?? It's strange - people over there seem to listen to quite different sorts of things than people over here."}, {"response": 13, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (15:03)", "body": "Ha ha, Riette! I was being facetious. Bobby Goldsboro was a teen idol in the early 70's, along the lines of Donny Osmond, or the Partridge family. They used to include his singles on the back of Post cereal boxes; we'd cut them out and play them them on our turntable (we called it a record player back then). Can anyone remember any of his songs? I seem to remember one about the sun."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (21:44)", "body": "whoa, you'd cut the single out of the cereal box and play it? ok, i don't get it. please explain."}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (02:21)", "body": "you are young, Wolf..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (02:49)", "body": "Why didn't we have such cool things when I was young????"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (02:51)", "body": "what do you mean, \"when\"?????"}, {"response": 18, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (09:14)", "body": "Not that young anymore - will be a quarter of a century the end of the year......... \ufffdshiver\ufffd"}, {"response": 19, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (09:17)", "body": "Oh, yesterday Sonja and I were complaining over this on the phone, and about wrinkles and the likes. I was saying how I get these nasty bags under the eyes when I don't sleep - which I never used to. And she said: 'You think THAT's bad? I have so many wrinkles around my eyes that, after I've cried, I have to wipe my ar$e!' I was in stitches!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (17:32)", "body": "well, not too young, there wer. riette, you are much wiser than your age, deary. i wouldn't have guessed you to be 25. oh, when's your b-day?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (02:49)", "body": "Oh, I don't look 25 either, I can tell you!!! More like 45! 9. December. Yours? I think you must be between 28 and 30."}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (11:05)", "body": "More like 15."}, {"response": 23, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (16:41)", "body": "\ufffdrotflmao\ufffd!!! Not at all, Terry!!! Don't let a photo lie to you about my appearance, because then you'll laugh your butt off when you see the video. I am BIG TIME ugly, not because I'm modest, or have a bad self image, but because I am. I've NEVER met a person who thought I looked younger than I am . . . . that's because I don't. Absolutely not! I spent the first 18 years of my life in a blazing desert sun, and so I have those typical ugly freckles that white African people always have. And the wrinkles. And bags under my eyes, because I sleep so little. Baah! Europeans, I find, all look VERY young though. My husband looks at least 15 years younger than he is. \ufffdsigh\ufffd If I were vain, than would pi$$ me off."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (17:42)", "body": "I'm just going by the only picture I've seen of you, and you look mighty young in it."}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (21:17)", "body": "yeah, that's what i thought. *ahem* 8 June, am 30. but my big rear end makes me look like aunt bea (frumpy). and i AM downright ugly cuz i've got, like, big ears, nose, chin, forehead, you name it. (got small bones though-so my weight looks twice as bad!!)"}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (21:18)", "body": "oh, and riette, i didn't find you ugly at all!!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (22:28)", "body": "where is this picture of riette?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (23:10)", "body": "ummm, terry?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (02:12)", "body": "I don't remember, I guess it needs a repost, help me out Riette or ."}, {"response": 30, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (02:20)", "body": "The topic with my name that some INNOCENT created in Babes. The face looks fairly in place when I'm not talking - but boy, when that mouth opens, it's NIGHT time! I'm one of those people whose right and left side of the face are so far from being a mirror image of each other, it's almost embarrassing - you know, when I open my mouth to talk, you'd think I'd suffered a stroke at some point! Not nice."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (02:25)", "body": ""}, {"response": 32, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (09:06)", "body": "oh, i am *soooooo* in love."}, {"response": 33, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (10:23)", "body": "????? \ufffdshriek\ufffd Terry, you UN-INNOCENT!!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (20:47)", "body": "riette, you have a nice face. mine is doesn't match either side but i think it adds character (at least that's what i keep telling myself). and NO, i'm NOT posting it anytime soon....."}, {"response": 35, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (02:46)", "body": "Oh, don't worry about that - I know what you look like anyway, since we're twins. I think our faces are the last thing in the world we should give a damn about. I've never thought of people as ugly or pretty just from looking at their faces, so I assume that that is true of them too. I wouldn't want to be beautiful, because I don't know how that would affect one's personality - and mine is awful enough as it is!!!! Many beautiful people are so over aware of the way they look that it makes them butt u ly. Being beautiful is just so temporary - I mean, in 50 years' time Pamela is going to be as unpretty as myself, I HOPE!!! - that one can't really afford to make a big issue out of it."}, {"response": 36, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:04)", "body": "I'd love to see pics of people you see as attractive Ree-head. Kinds reminds me of that Twilight Zone where they remove the bandages off this woman who has just had facial surgery and they look so afraid and disgusted but the camera pans in and she is beautiful, simply gorgeous, by human standards. When the camera pans out and the doctors and nurses remove their masks, you see that 'normal' for them is lizardlike features... Anyway Ree-head, I think the picture reveals a very pretty you."}, {"response": 37, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:29)", "body": "yes indeed. you are a natural beauty, riette."}, {"response": 38, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:43)", "body": "That's kind, Stacey. And ha-ha!!! My best friend, Gillian, is someone I find truly beautiful. I was quite surprised and very angry when my husband met her for the first time, and said to me afterwards: 'She's nice, but God she's ugly.' She might be - I don't know. We've been best friends for four years now, and still find new things to admire about her all the time. She has every good quality one can possibly imagine in another person - but in a degree of UTTERness. Utterly intelligent, kind, sensible, yet crazy, great to be with, creative, emotional, passionate, open, honest, sweet, a good listener AND advisor, easy to talk to, easy to be silent with - oh, I could go on and on. And because of all these qualities, I find her green an brown eyes just beautiful with all the things going on in there, I find her nose beautiful when she laughs and it sort of crinkles up like that, and I find her smile gorgeous, I love to look at her quick hands when she helps me bake my daughters' birthday cakes. If I were lesbian, she is just the kind of woman I'd fall in love with emotionally as well as physically."}, {"response": 39, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:44)", "body": "How'd you manage to slip that one in, Ray?!?! I think you're a natural beauty too."}, {"response": 40, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (16:22)", "body": "All of you make me feel like a natural woman."}, {"response": 41, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (16:32)", "body": "*singing* (I shall not disgrace Carole King in such a fashion, I am merely humming)"}, {"response": 42, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (02:19)", "body": "phew, close call! (just kidding!!)"}, {"response": 43, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (12:06)", "body": "twas close indeed... lucky there is no REALAUDIO hooked up to my computer!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (12:18)", "body": "Nor mine, so why don't we sing a duet? Let's make the others squirm!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (12:19)", "body": "*laugh* we could be causing permanent damage..."}, {"response": 46, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (02:14)", "body": "Yes, come to think of it. Maybe not then....."}, {"response": 47, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (22:24)", "body": "that is so sweet about your friend gillian. i think you see beauty the way it was meant to be, without other's standards...that's refreshing. i know what you mean about finding other people beautiful and not having anyone agree with you! and no matter what happens, these people will always remain beautiful to you. and they'll never know why. i can't find a reason why my husband thinks i'm pretty. i can find every reason why he shouldn't. i'm glad not to be admired for looks, you know? well, if we're twins, reehead, it must be fraternal! haha!!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (02:10)", "body": "ha-ha! Well, I'm glad to be your twin. I can relate to you."}, {"response": 49, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (02:11)", "body": "So to speak!!! HA-HA!!!!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (21:43)", "body": "haha!!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (00:19)", "body": "Ok...time to post mine. Since I telnet on occasion, I have just about everything on there I was told was safe for me to read *grin* yapp 0 0 sports 0 0 apps 0 1 fitness 0 0 music 0 0 cultures 0 0 web 0 1 media 0 1 internet 0 3 tv 0 0 movies 0 0 politics 0 0 books 0 0 politics 0 0 environment 0 0 food 0 0 austin 0 0 community 0 0 sex 0 1 radio 0 0 poetry 0 0 restaurants 0 0 projects 0 0 porch 0 0 travel 0 0 computer 0 0 windows 0 0 techbusiness 0 0 art 0 0 parent 0 0 home 0 0 capcity 0 0 homepage 9 2 drool 0 0 education 0 0 medieval 0 0 vc 0 1 spirit 0 0 garden 0 0 health 0 0 science 0 1 philosophy 0 2 babes 0 0 cfp 0 0 news 0 0 justice 0 0 screwed 0 0 inner 0 0 software 0 0 collecting 0 0 seniorcomp 0 0 paraspring 0 0 today 0 0 InternationalConflicts 0 0 Geo 0 0 SpringArk 0 0 history And I have checked everything but the latest in Drool."}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (00:29)", "body": "*sigh* there has not been much activity in here for a while. Singing and picture of missing Ree...not much else...*sigh*"}, {"response": 53, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (09:56)", "body": "Here's some more stats. These are the conferences and how much disk space they're using. 62217 drool 12205 philosophy 11383 austenarchive 10832 porch 7376 apps 5291 sports 3646 cultures 3381 media 3159 fitness 3078 screwed 2900 politics 2871 news 2817 food 2457 community 2220 capcity 2012 inner 1922 music 1659 bronte 1650 Geo 1550 sex 1509 movies 1466 poetry 1213 motorcycle 1022 babes 964 internet 938 genx 920 books 878 art 863 travel 861 spirit 801 cars 775 austin 753 tv 750 paraspring 696 restaurants 678 collecting 654 web 589 health 586 history 578 vc 531 SpringArk 475 home 388 environment 386 projects 346 yapp 309 phinished 303 deeper 298 radio 273 modjane 256 techbusiness 255 parent 253 garden 232 cfp 232 science 176 farm 170 minds 165 InternationalConflicts 160 medieval 159 today 156 computer 155 education 143 unix 139 justice 130 Orenda 116 windows 111 homepage 109 middlemarch 100 software 64 dsm 61 seniorcomp 40 dpo 35 business 34 newtest 33 hammer 24 test 24 austentest 23 farrawae 23 peacemaker 21 hoa 21 nh 18 ViridianCuria 16 eff 12 song"}, {"response": 54, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (09:58)", "body": "Makes you want to post something in song."}, {"response": 55, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (15:06)", "body": "What's in the austenarchive directory?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (17:28)", "body": "I checked song...for original stuff, yes?! Not my thing, though I right now have a head full of Billy Joel's glorious stuff... Geo's doing ok for a conference not yet a year old...*grin*"}, {"response": 57, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:25)", "body": "austenarchive is everything from the former austen conference about Jane austen."}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 2, 2001 (06:49)", "body": "I wish we could do some level of Jane Austen discussion and work more closely with Pemberly."}, {"response": 59, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, May 23, 2001 (11:17)", "body": "Pemberley doesn't need us. They have a thriving community on their own. What could we offer them that they don't already have? Also, I think it would be impossible to try to break in on their territory. While I have always wished we could do more discussion of JA, I don't see that happening. They have healthy, active discussions with a large number of participants and lurkers, at best ours would be a pale shadow. Why would anyone look for somewhere else to discuss JA, when they have the RoP?"}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 23, 2001 (11:42)", "body": "That's a great question, rephrasing a bit, what could we offer that we aren't ofering now?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, May 23, 2001 (16:01)", "body": "That's a great question, rephrasing a bit, what could we offer that we aren't ofering now? } Better phrased: what could we offer that neither we or the RoP is offering now? I've been thinking about that for years. Still don't have any ideas. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 46, "subject": "No where to go but here", "response_count": 58, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (05:36)", "body": "This topic is for things that you can't figure a place to put anywhere else. Like, the following would go in a business conference in a topic called 'self employment resources'. But we don't have a business conference (should we?) And if you're into web marketing... http://cyberatlas.com/ From LA TIMES online 5/27/98 http://www.latimes.com/CNS_DAYS/980525/t000048926.html CYBERSPACE * Quick Hits: There are numerous sites devoted to small-office/home-office associations. Most include information on online newsletters, benefits, news, links and other resources. Here are a few: the Small Office Home Office Assn. ( http://www.sohoa.com) , the SOHO America Advocacy ( http://www.soho.org) , the American Assn. of Home-Based Businesses ( http://www.aahbb.org) , the American Home Business Assn. ( http://www.homebusiness.com) , the National Assn. of Home Based Business ( http://www.usahomebusiness ) and the Home Office Assn. ( http://www.hoaa.com) . * SOHO Diversity: There are at least a handful of sites devoted to assisting and informing managers of women- and minority-owned businesses. At http://www.blackbusiness.com , you'll find SOHO info for black-owned businesses. Black Women on the Web ( http://www.dtshop.com/bwow ) has small-business and home-business resources for African American women. * Info Central: The Business Resource Center ( http://www.morebusiness.com ) offers info for all kinds of business owners. Check out business and profitability tips, Tax Talk, Marketing Department and the Management Center. You'll also find upcoming trade show listings, financing guides, templates and work sheets for business agreements and plans, discussion groups, and software and reviews. * You Want Answers? The Times' Small Business Web site can be found at http://www.latimes.com/smallbiz . Check out the 30 most-asked questions about small business, tips on how to start a small business, listings of classes and events, and articles from The Times' archives. * Get Involved: Advocacy issues are a primary focus of the National Assn. for the Self-Employed. It offers a weekly briefing on legislative issues and activities that affect small businesses and advocacy efforts, in addition to a reference area and a survey of the \"joys and sorrows\" of owning a small business. The NASE site is at http://www.membership.com/nase . * Sitting Pretty: Ergonomics is just as important in a small or home office as it is in a bigger one, so stop by ErgoWeb ( http://www.ergoweb.com ) for the lowdown on ergonomics standards, guidelines and publications. The site has an interactive buying guide and case studies on ergonomics gone awry. * Don't Forget: Last, but not least, is the good ol' Small Business Administration, for starting, financing or expanding your office. The national SBA is online at http://www.sbaonline.sba.gov , and the California SBA is at http://www.csba.com . * Online Research: Calling itself the \"one-stop resource for business, management and technology knowledge,\" Brint.com ( http://www.brint.com ) allows you to conduct research online, visit a virtual library on knowledge management, participate in online discussions and read or post publication and event announcements. Who else here dreams of working at home?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (12:22)", "body": "I work at home. It's BORING!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (18:18)", "body": "so, get a real job..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (23:01)", "body": "Yeah, I'm at home here too, and lemme tell you, this house is not big enough for both of us to stay home!!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (04:49)", "body": "Yeah? Well, I can't DO anything else. I didn't study, and I have no other talents, so let me be!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (20:21)", "body": "The Spring is a home business. I run it out of my home in Quail Creek. Do you want to talk about how we're set up and how we do all this? And do you want to make suggestions on how we could improve as an organization and do it better?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (20:23)", "body": "By the way, I love what wer did by putting the list of last responses on different conferences. That's awesome! Killer interface stuff. Very, very cool!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (02:47)", "body": "Totally! Yes, Terry, please tell us about the set up and so on, I'd be very interested to hear how all this works - but in English, okay?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (02:05)", "body": "C'est vrai... ooops, almost started explaining in French. English, ok. Basically, we have 3 Intel boxes, two BSDI (www and barton) and a Free BSD box (access) running all the spring stuff. And then I have a subnet of about 8 machines at my Austin house. This is where we author our websites mostly. A box is a computer. BSDI is an operating system. A subnet is a collection of networked computers. The video is streamed to the website via a VCR, right now it's playing the party that I just came from over at Brad Adams place in Travis Heights. What else?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (03:25)", "body": "And you have your own server as well?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (18:14)", "body": "We have three of our own servers on a D3, which is a very fast connection. They are www, access, and barton. (eg. barton.spring.net), and we have about 8 machines, mostly Pentiums, running Win 98 and one running BSDI at the Austin Spring HQ. What we're about is incubating ideas for new web businesses where someone has a business and we provide the web infrastructure for a percentage stake in the business. This is the model we're using for http://www.silkcloth.com and for the \"street\" series that we just registered ( http://www.ih35.com , http://www.congressavenue.com , http://www.burnetroad.com , http://www.lamarbouldevard.com , http://www.thedrag.com etc. ). We're looking for more of these collaborations either locally or virtually on the net. Maybe we could set up a virtual art gallery here for Riette? Maybe others of you have businesses we could implement."}, {"response": 12, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (02:27)", "body": "That would be great fun! Thank you, Terry, I'd defenitely be game."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (08:37)", "body": "First step, ree. Think of a clever domain name we can register. reeworld.com, artworld.com, artriette.com, you have a fertile mind."}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (12:52)", "body": "and remember, if anyone has a working, internet ready Pentium that's in the way, you have permission to store it at my house..."}, {"response": 15, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (04:51)", "body": "Whatever that might be!!! I'll think about a name, Terry."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (09:24)", "body": "Good."}, {"response": 17, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (01:05)", "body": "Help! I had to reinstall AOL, and lost my bookmarks... if any of you would like to e-mail me your hotlists, please feel free to do so, that I might re-create mine (more or less...)"}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (03:35)", "body": "I thik they all had to do with sex (more or less) oh and don't forget www.jailbabes.com"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (07:58)", "body": "She's harsh!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (11:10)", "body": "ahhh... the truth that hurts... you okay with it WER???"}, {"response": 21, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (12:03)", "body": "damned straight"}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (12:06)", "body": "*grin* ahhh... somethings never change"}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (12:48)", "body": "or get relieved..."}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (12:49)", "body": "that must be quite the build-up..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (12:54)", "body": "fortunately, they now have shampoos that take care of excessive build-up!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (12:56)", "body": "but they strip away that protective layer too"}, {"response": 27, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (12:58)", "body": "one word: salve"}, {"response": 28, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (13:02)", "body": "organic or no?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (13:06)", "body": "organic is good... (orgasmic possibly better...)"}, {"response": 30, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (14:12)", "body": "that must be some salve!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (14:17)", "body": "salv-ational!!!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (14:18)", "body": "besides, it's all in the application..."}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (14:20)", "body": "rub, massage or spread?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (14:24)", "body": "depends on the applicator"}, {"response": 35, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (14:32)", "body": "sponge, ladle, brush or other?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (14:36)", "body": "depends on the situation"}, {"response": 37, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (15:13)", "body": "examples please..."}, {"response": 38, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Jan 7, 1999 (16:12)", "body": "That's quite a salvo....."}, {"response": 39, "author": "wer", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (00:44)", "body": "not a single hotlist sent to me... oh, well..."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (09:21)", "body": "I'll try and drum one up. I have so many in so many places. What's your primary email? Where does wer@spring.net end up?"}, {"response": 41, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (10:55)", "body": "wer, i dont have any hotlists in AOL. if i did i would have sent you one!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (22:58)", "body": "no,no,no... web hotlists...I don't use AOL for AOL (the wife does, though...)"}, {"response": 43, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (23:00)", "body": "that one ends up at kitchen_manager@juno.com and rotazo@aol.com... either is fine as I check each as many times a day as possible!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (23:55)", "body": "oh, i see! well, my bookmark files are pretty lame and boring."}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (14:57)", "body": "actually, wer@spring.net only ends up at kitchen_manager@juno.com... which server is that e-mail account on, Terry? if it's not on www, then I don't have access to it..."}, {"response": 46, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (21:12)", "body": "wer, spring.net emails go to barton."}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 24, 1999 (14:17)", "body": "that's what I thought..."}, {"response": 48, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (00:07)", "body": "MAINE COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY 1.Log on - Make the wood stove hotter 2.Log off - Don't add no more wood 3.Monitor - Keep an eye on that wood stove 4.Download - Getting the firewood off the truck 5.Floppy disk - What you get from trying to carry too much firewood 6.Ram - The thing that splits the firewood 7.Hard Drive - Getting home in the winter 8.Prompt - What the mail ain't in the winter 9.Window - What to shut when it's cold outside 10.Screen - What to shut in black fly season 11.Byte - What the black flies do 12.Bit - What the black flies did 13.Mega Byte - What the BIG black flies do during trout season 14.Chip - Munchies for TV 15.Micro Chip - What's left in the bag after you eat the chips 16.Modem - What you did to the weeds growing in the driveway 17.Dot matrix - Old Dan Matrix's wife 18.Lap top - Where the beer spills when you pass out 19.Software - The dumb plastic knives and forks they give you at McDonalds 20.Hardware - Real stainless steel cutlery 21.Mouse - What makes the holes in the Cheerios box 22.Main frame - What holds the house up, hopefully 23.Enter - The only way to win those magazine ad sweepstakes 24.Web - What a spider makes 25.Web site - High corners of the ceiling 26.Cursor - Someone who swears 27.Search Engine - What you do when the car dies 28.Screen Saver - repair kit for the torn window screen 29.Home Page - map you keep in your back pocket just in case you get lost in the woods 30.Upgrade - Steep hill 31.Server - waitress 32.Mail Server - male waitress, damn few in Maine 33.MS DOS - Some new disease they discovered 34.Sound Card - One of them technological birthday cards that plays music when you open it 35.User - The neighbor who keeps borrowing stuff 36.Browser - A problem moose in the sugarbush 37.Network - Mending holes in the gillnet 38.Internet - Complicated fish net repair method 39.Netscape - What haddock do when you don't do your network 40.Online - good sign there'll be clean clothes this week 41.Off line - the clothes pins let go and the laundry falls on the ground -better luck next week"}, {"response": 49, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (00:24)", "body": "Love it, wer!!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "Thought of you when I read it..."}, {"response": 51, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (22:38)", "body": "haha!! saw this one before but i luv it anyway..."}, {"response": 52, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (22:41)", "body": "seen variants on the theme, as well...my favorite is probably the Arkansas version...first time I had see a northeastern one (which is why I thought of Autumn...)"}, {"response": 53, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (22:46)", "body": "yeah, i've seen it in southern versions as well."}, {"response": 54, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Feb 16, 1999 (10:35)", "body": "Well, I'd never seen any version of it, and I thought it was hilarious. We Marylanders think those folks in Maine are a little backwards :-)"}, {"response": 55, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Feb 16, 1999 (22:29)", "body": "like, oh say, Stephen King for instance?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (14:56)", "body": "No, we think he is really OUT THERE...."}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (19:03)", "body": "oh, just checking..."}, {"response": 58, "author": "Phoenix", "date": "Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (17:48)", "body": "test porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 47, "subject": "Links to the Spring, where have you seen 'em?", "response_count": 61, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (05:48)", "body": "http://notts.net/community/index.html"}, {"response": 2, "author": "jgross", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (14:40)", "body": "http://www.fieldbook.com/internet.html#10-Conferencing where I originally found out about Spring"}, {"response": 3, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (00:15)", "body": "Fieldbook, huh? You're a regular Boy Scout, eh, Jim!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "jgross", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (13:11)", "body": "i only go camping in Autumn where the weather is so nice out there the fire burns bright the stars twinkle like they're blinking with delight i always lose my way and am constantly getting lost so i listen into my heart and just lie down on the moss there's that random rhythm in nature's welcome i feel at home and okay out there with Autumn"}, {"response": 5, "author": "jgross", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (13:13)", "body": ""}, {"response": 6, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (15:43)", "body": "I'm not sure anymore, Terry. I think I was looking for stuff on the Bront\ufffd sisters, and sort of stumbled upon it. Most people probably get here like that - I don't know. You and Wer have been here since the beginning, right? And remember to ask Mike when he comes back - he told me on the phone once that he's not been here for that much longer than me. I'll try and give him a buzz this weekend, but I think he's on holiday somewhere. I presume all the people who log in will have the address on their home pages as well?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (16:15)", "body": "haven't done that yet, but it will be and soon!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (17:01)", "body": "Wolf, I think, has been around here longer than I have..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (19:58)", "body": "If you want the history, you can hit the archives. For example, take a look at the stuff in genx from our archives. You can still view the original conferencing system, or I should more accurately, say the predecessor to the original operating system. We started out with a homegrown system that Ben Cohen wrote. The we went to caucus telnet only. Then we found out about yapp and used a telnet version that we got some help from Jan Wolter on, then we finally settled on Kaylene and Dave Thalers yapp interface. Through all these interfaces there have been differnet folks. In this context, wer is a relative newcomer. I recently got an email from Ben Cohen who is fascinated by our archives and reads stuff he wrote years ago. Either wer or I can post a link to the arvhices if you want to dig through our early history. It's in http://www.spring.net/~dbii which is Dave Bluesteins' directory. This is cool, I typing this while I watch the Cubs game and I have a little window with the game and I have our web interface full screen. It's WebTV version II. hu poto dream, heh. Who, here knows the search engine that igs up your link??? Sports used to be a hot conference. And genx once was torrid. The porch conference used to be called gat. Histoire, mes amis."}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (02:49)", "body": "Wow. And that was ten years ago?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (10:36)", "body": "you sure about that wer? i seem to recall that nick invited me here and i never left and you were already here. how long have i been here? at least a year, huh?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (12:45)", "body": "I think the answer I based that on is in genx... something like when is your spring anniversary..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (18:06)", "body": "although that topic may very well be in news..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (18:08)", "body": "you still here?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (18:11)", "body": "more or less, and you?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (18:13)", "body": "same...you feeling better?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (18:18)", "body": "sporadically..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (18:19)", "body": "this is a good thing right? versus feeling bad all the time?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (18:23)", "body": "something like that..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (02:06)", "body": "wer, create a new conference. Call it 'inner'. Make it member only. And put your best friends here on the member list. And then test it to make sure it works. ok?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (03:28)", "body": "Yes, make sure you call it INNER and not INNARD!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (03:41)", "body": "(and I just thought I was confused before...) not sure as to that being a good thing and besides, I've got stuff to do..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (04:14)", "body": "i remember when wolfie first showed up! WER wasn't around the Spring when I was still logging in from Austin but when I came back in Fall of 1997, he'd been around for awhile... (just sitting here reflecting Paul... about logging in covertly at MagneticBunny through the Telnet prompt you made an icon for on my desktop... no wonder it took me so long to get all of that ISO 9000 documentation written!)"}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (16:14)", "body": "terry, i see wer's point, i think..... stacey: nice to see you on a weekend! i remember when you could only log in at the school!! wer: you need a break, man, stop working so damned hard! *hug*"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (17:57)", "body": "wolf: can I borrow money for the bills?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (18:16)", "body": "Cool deal. I think at some point it would be good to have a private, userlist only, \"inner\" sanctum conference for the regulars here. One where we could get more down and dirty on a more intimate level. Just an idea. Sorry if I phrased that in a pushy way, wer."}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (21:11)", "body": "how much you need? course, i gotta go through the \"bank\" so, it might be easier to ask riette, as she was planning to rob one *grin* terry: i thought we were already down and dirty and on an intimate level--you've been to screwed, right?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (23:01)", "body": "Jim, I bet you really earned that poetry merit badge! :-)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "jgross", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (23:39)", "body": "When they conferred it to me, they stuck it on my right hand. They used these long thick steel pins and barb wire. I'm write-handed, so I couldn't write again for 38 years. The healing was as long as what it took for me to come across you. Have you noticed this kinda thing very much in your life? The miraculous effect you have on badly injured Boy Scouts? Autumn, could you take a moment to be real frank with me for a second and answer this one last question I somehow have for you: are you some sort of goddess? It's okay if ya aren't. If you are, I mean, I know, it's pretty wowsy."}, {"response": 30, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (23:46)", "body": "Of course I'm a goddess, Jim!! How else do you explain...?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "jgross", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (00:27)", "body": "My hand thanks you with all its heart. I bet some goddesses just can't always come through. But your miracles are of the highest order. Make checks payable to your little bundle of joy? To your bouncing bounding boundless soul?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (23:40)", "body": "Okay, all those who want access to the inner sanctum e-mail me..."}, {"response": 33, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (04:53)", "body": "And what will happen at the inner sanctum?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (09:22)", "body": "Talk about stuff that you only want to share with our immediate group. Any new members only admitted by 100% approval of the group that's there. It looks like wer may have created it. This is what's known as a \"private\" conference."}, {"response": 35, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (09:27)", "body": "can i join?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (09:27)", "body": "OK by me."}, {"response": 37, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (10:12)", "body": "not created yet, wanted to know who wanted in first..."}, {"response": 38, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (19:31)", "body": "well, only if you guys trust me, may i join the party?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (02:49)", "body": "No, I don't want to go! No, no, don't listen to that, just playing hard to get!!! I'd love to come too if you guys have no objection since I'm relatively new here."}, {"response": 40, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (21:43)", "body": "Me too."}, {"response": 41, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Sep 11, 1998 (17:36)", "body": "inner is up and running...please let me or Terry know if you have problems getting in or posting..."}, {"response": 42, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (11:54)", "body": "added the link to my site AND invited a fellow poet and philosopher to drop in. don't know if they've dropped by yet, but look for 'em!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (14:21)", "body": "cool!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (02:03)", "body": "Good!! Keep invitin'"}, {"response": 45, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (14:00)", "body": "We mustn't forget to put a link to the Spring in the Art Centaur gallery either!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (15:48)", "body": "Altavista reports 226 web sites that link to http://www.spring.net/"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (19:02)", "body": "Great, do any stand out in particular?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 24, 1999 (14:18)", "body": "didn't go and look...it was part of a free assessment that I ran from some site..."}, {"response": 49, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (17:17)", "body": "well i've got links plasterd on my site three different times. not that my site is popular, but hope it helps!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (18:57)", "body": "you go, girl!!!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (09:59)", "body": "Alright wolfie!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (03:21)", "body": "wait, i've got 4! woohoo!!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (23:09)", "body": "do I hear five?"}, {"response": 54, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (09:16)", "body": "Just ran into this site and thought you might want to submit the Spring domain name: http://www.websmostlinked.com/ will rank it according to the number of sites linked to Spring. It's not all inclusive, but there are over 500,000 sites in their database."}, {"response": 55, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (09:47)", "body": "Wow, thanks Myretta."}, {"response": 56, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (10:00)", "body": "I submitted it and got a response that we would know in 24 hours, I'll publish3 the results and put up a page of links to these sites. It's only fair to reciprocate."}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (00:46)", "body": "Only 8 more hours to go till we get our results, are you sitting on the edge of your chair?"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (00:49)", "body": "Absolutely, For sure and indeed!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (00:04)", "body": "So, it has been 8 hours...Yes????"}, {"response": 60, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (09:40)", "body": "http://www.robotwisdom.com has a link (bad though) to http://www.spring.net/wmmeyers , I sent them a correction. This is a fun page to visit."}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 4, 2001 (00:49)", "body": "I need to check and see if they've made the correction. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 48, "subject": "Leaving the WELL", "response_count": 21, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (01:17)", "body": "Well, Ray, if they're a bunch of intellectuals they almost certainly don't listen to each other either - too keen to impress with knowledge. But I've never been there."}, {"response": 2, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (01:18)", "body": "Could you put in a URL, so I can go check it out?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (01:38)", "body": "the WeLL is not free, it costs between $10 - $15 a month. the URL is http://www.well.com"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (07:59)", "body": "I used to be on the WELL but since the Spring has gotten rolling more, I don't find I have much time for it. Cliff Figallo, who was an early director of the WELL, was a neighbor of mine in Bolinas and I was on the very first WELL when Matthew McClure (mmc@well.com) was running it. This was in the pre-cyberspace era when everyone dialed in and when I had an Apple //e with a modem. Back then, I was writing reviews for the Whole Earth Software Review. Cliff (fig@well.com) is with Salon now and I don't se him on the WELL much anymore. As we get up a full head of steam here, we may get others drifting over."}, {"response": 5, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (10:23)", "body": "terry, one of the primary reasons i am considering leaving is that i know that you were one of the original wellites, yet you don't spend a lot of time there anymore."}, {"response": 6, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (12:52)", "body": "Hey, Ray, drugs are cool too! Are you on those? Oh, and driving fast cars, like uh, a Chevelle or a Porsche! Got one of those? I think it is infinitely cooler to say, \"I used to subscribe to the WELL, but with all the BS going on there, it's just not the cool, edgy place it used to be. Now I hang at the Spring.\" :-)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (13:19)", "body": "very good point."}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (00:45)", "body": "ha-ha!!!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (12:34)", "body": "Yup, I've got an account. No, I don't ever use it. It's the second time I've had one, and again I'm thinking of cancelling it. There just seems to be something....rotten about the place. Like all of the utopianism and hope has collapsed into cynicism and back-biting. *BUT* you do get a cool e-mail address :-)"}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (01:20)", "body": "well.com is cool? Boy, these English people are crazy!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (22:07)", "body": "Tell me about it! Cool just isn't what it used to be."}, {"response": 12, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (01:24)", "body": "ha-ha! I know! Cool is in fact sort of uncool nowadays, isn't it?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (13:54)", "body": "EXACTLY."}, {"response": 14, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (05:20)", "body": "ha-ha!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (13:55)", "body": "Hello, Thank you for your email. We are sorry to see you leave The WELL community. We have canceled your account as you have requested. Your account will remain active until Nov. 5, which is the last day of your present billing cycle. Feel free to use The WELL until this date without fear of additional charges. In the future, if you wish to re-join The WELL, just go to our Web Page at www.well.com. If you have any questions, you can email us at helpdesk@well.com. Thank you for your business and we hope to see you soon. Kathy WELL Helpdesk helpdesk@well.com (415) 332-9200"}, {"response": 16, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (13:56)", "body": "That's it - WELL account cancelled."}, {"response": 17, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (21:11)", "body": "mikeg! way to go! i still have mine, but havent logged on in a few days."}, {"response": 18, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 22, 1998 (03:53)", "body": "well WELL!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Oct 22, 1998 (22:15)", "body": "Uh-oh, Mike has suddenly lost some of his cache, don't you think? He used to be so cool. :-)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 23, 1998 (01:28)", "body": "Yeah, so edgy! Now he's only hip and wicked."}, {"response": 21, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Oct 25, 1998 (00:25)", "body": "*laffs* I realised that I paid for something that I never logged in to, and even when I did I didn't like - that for me equals cancel. ANyway, I'm still cool and edgy until November 5th., which when my account runs out :) ./ y porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 49, "subject": "Enter your primary email address here!", "response_count": 61, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (16:50)", "body": "rlopez@texas.net"}, {"response": 2, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (22:32)", "body": "moorehdg@erols.com"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (23:21)", "body": "rotazo@aol.com kitchen_manager@juno.com"}, {"response": 4, "author": "jgross", "date": "Sun, Sep 27, 1998 (02:10)", "body": "jimmeroo@yahoo.com jimgross@earthlink.com"}, {"response": 5, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 27, 1998 (03:48)", "body": "riettewalton@bitchgrove.com Oops, little typing mistake - sorry. walton@webshuttle.ch"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (10:58)", "body": "mswolf68@hotmail.com"}, {"response": 7, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (12:35)", "body": "mike@griggs.demon.co.uk Can we set up the Spring Yapp software to do e-mail forwarding? Then we could all just use our @www.spring.net addresses and then get them forwarded to our normal accounts. Just a thought."}, {"response": 8, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (01:21)", "body": "Sure, I'll see to all the technicalities straight away, Mike. Just leave it to Ri\ufffdtte...."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (19:13)", "body": "Email that question to Kaylene Mike, good idea!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (22:10)", "body": "No, I want Riette to handle it! :-) (we'll never get email again, will we?)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (01:25)", "body": "\ufffdrolling on the floor laughing myself to bits\ufffd You're too kind, Autumn, really!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "osceola", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (15:32)", "body": "gklos@austin.cc.tx.us"}, {"response": 13, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (16:17)", "body": "Another Texan!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "osceola", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (17:40)", "body": "Ya-fuckin'-hoo.... Actually, I'm more of an Austinite than a Texan. Some of you know the difference."}, {"response": 15, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (05:21)", "body": "Which would be?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (06:27)", "body": "Austininites are edgier for one. Austin is like an island in the big ocean of Texas with it's culture, music, literati, and high tech scene. It's also got an awesome natural environment with lakes, hills, trees, and greenery. It's quite a package compared to the rest of the state."}, {"response": 17, "author": "osceola", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (11:48)", "body": "Well, the rest of the state is environmentally pretty, too. (OK, not all of it.) But in Austin it's the people and the culture(s) they create and mix together. By culture(s) I mean more than stuff to do -- I mean an attitude. It's edgy AND laid back, and that's hard to figure out, so you don't figure it out, you just live in it. I just wanted to live in Austin awhile, and grad skool was a pretense to justify it. I really did care about pursuing a Ph.D. (pronounced Fudd)but I picked Austin because it didn't snow, the History Dept. only required one foreign language, and I liked the music scene. That was 9 years ago. I think I'll stay."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (12:13)", "body": "Think I'll stay too. You know I wouldn't have stuck around Austin if it weren't for the fact that my van broke down in front of the Armadillo World Headquarters while I was driving through. Broken axle. And that night there was a concert with the Talking Heads and B-52s. Got me hooked on theAustin scene and I've been here ever since. Think that was 1979 or so."}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (14:08)", "body": "I was homesick for Austin for quite some time but now it might be kinda difficult to pull me away from all this sunshine and the mountains."}, {"response": 20, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (05:14)", "body": "How big is Austin there - how many people approximately?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "jgross", "date": "Mon, Oct 5, 1998 (01:13)", "body": "gettin' it right this time: jimmeroo@yahoo.com jimgross@earthlink.net [what was wrong---jimgross@earthlink.com]"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 24, 1998 (08:28)", "body": "Stacey are you still using stacey@www.spring.net or stacey@spring.net as your primary email address? Or are you using another one?"}, {"response": 23, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (12:55)", "body": "How much did posting your primary addresses increase the account of spam mails for you? Since about two weeks, the mail account behind my Spring-user-login gets loads of spam. Never gotten any before (besides stuff from record companies, but that's at least infos I might find useful)."}, {"response": 24, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "And I suspect they nicked this address off the Spring user logs..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (07:39)", "body": "Got it! MushiMushi@gmx.de!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (07:41)", "body": "Hope this one won't get stuffed with junk and spam!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (08:09)", "body": "MushiMushi??? Ha-ha!!! That sounds like my aunt's name - aunt Musha, who was born on the same day as Adolf!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (08:16)", "body": "Mmh, I thought it was something the Japanese say when telephone rings, like \"HalloHallo!\" - but who knows?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (13:35)", "body": "ha-ha! Yes! I always thought of my aunt as a kind of potatoe from the sound of her name and the look of her."}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (14:53)", "body": "Thank you dear Isabel. You are a real person now =) MushiMushi is the way Japanese people answer the phone, is it not???!!!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (15:04)", "body": "I test-drove Isabel's email and it was swiftly returned to me as undeliverable. ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- Bummer!!! Is gmx.de down?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (15:06)", "body": "When you paste her email address to your address book, remove the ! at the end of it...that was the permanent fatal error *blushing with embarrassment*"}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (17:12)", "body": "*laughing hysterically!*"}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (19:28)", "body": "figured you would. I'll withdraw into Drool and Geo for the while..."}, {"response": 35, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (12:21)", "body": "OOOOOooooops! The exclamation mark was only meant as an exclamation of happiness! Hey but it works! :-))) (That's a triple smile, not a double chin!)"}, {"response": 36, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "Thank God! For a moment there I thought you had posted my picture!!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:21)", "body": "Yo, girls! Havin' a good time?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (15:20)", "body": "I was until I realized I posted the comments which pertained to the comments here on porch 62. Oh well, they will send the guy with the white coat with the l o n g sleeves shortly... so very sorry"}, {"response": 39, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (15:28)", "body": "beaufordb@hotmail.com"}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (15:38)", "body": "marci@aloha.net critter514@aol.com (if all else fails)"}, {"response": 41, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (15:47)", "body": "stacey@www.spring.net (til Paul sells it!!) staceyleigh48@hotmail.com is good too"}, {"response": 42, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (04:12)", "body": "Ooh, you're so versatile!! riettewalton@yahoo.com"}, {"response": 43, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (09:00)", "body": "*grin* I'm an email-address-a-holic... I've actually got several more!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (13:00)", "body": "You do?!!!! You have never discovered the 'folders' button for all the different people you're in contact with? \ufffdgrin\ufffd"}, {"response": 45, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (15:06)", "body": "I have indeed but... free email addresses just seem to good to pass up! I'm an electronic pack rat so it justs gives me more space for silly stuff!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (15:39)", "body": "...and if you are like me, you have forgotten the password if not the login. I have one in eudoramail.com, but I devoutly hope no one has used it...I cannot remember how to get in anymore!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (03:02)", "body": "ha-ha! You two are too weird!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (18:23)", "body": "...somewhere I have a sticky-note with the passoword and login on it, but I have hidden it from the troll. I'll find it one of these days and then blow the cobwebs out of the place. Perhaps this is one he cannot get into...but he cannot my Eudora, either. It is Booby-trapped...he..he.."}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (18:26)", "body": "Hey! we are in excellent company. We know a certain gentleman who guestimates that he has over 20 of them...!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (02:54)", "body": "Who is that????"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (21:33)", "body": "The guy at the top of my Babes list in the first 4 places, actually...!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (03:42)", "body": "post a picture!!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (16:46)", "body": "...it has already been posted..."}, {"response": 54, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:02)", "body": "huh? The only picture I remember is that of Tim or Chad the geologist - name doesn't matter."}, {"response": 55, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (18:44)", "body": "we are thinking of two different men. David the Geologist is my son. The other person shall remain nameless for the foreseeable future...by necessity."}, {"response": 56, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:09)", "body": "OH! David is your SON?? $hit, woman, your genes are golden!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "Yup! Since they only gave me one chance to have a baby, they gave me the best they had the first time. My mom had to wait till the third one was born...moi!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:55)", "body": "...um...just out of curiosity, who did you think David was in relation to me?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (15:23)", "body": "Hmh, Riette?"}, {"response": 60, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (02:11)", "body": "Whatever I thought, I hoped it was over! ha-ha!!!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (13:05)", "body": "I'm afraid it is a life-time commitment. Moms are like that *smile* porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 5, "subject": "welcome wagon.. help respond to folks inquiries", "response_count": 66, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (18:42)", "body": "From: mailto://tdroog@worldaccess.nl (Thea Droog) Nice meeting you again. I did not visit EM. I'll tell you why. The webb is verry new for me. I'm 59 years old, always interested in computers, but I have no experiance, till now. It's verry hard working, I can tell you, just to make things go. In the first 4 months I have this machine I already have had crah on 3 modems. I had not the slightes idee what was: a server, java, download etc, etc. Just name it and I did not know. And when I entered the web I was overwhelmed. I wish to meet people but I find it difficult to express myself on the web. I can tell you somethin about myself. I'm working four days a week, have a house and a lovely garden to work in. I look once a week after my grandchilderen, have two cats. I like painting, bridge and making clothes. I'm interested in sciences, ( my son lives in Mexico, Sonnora, is a fysicisit and my doughter is an astronomer ) in literature, in politics and in philosophy. And I'm always interested in something I don't know. So if you can help me to find the right groups and feel myself comfortable I will thank you . I hope I will hear from you. Thank you for your wishes for the holliday season and the same to you. Thea Droog"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (18:48)", "body": "Hey, thanks, haven't had a chance to check out everything, but I will, soon. What I do like to do is rant and rave about stupid things in the news, like the cop in Cleveland arresting that lady for being a Good Samaritan. I do have a web page at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/ Plains/2762 and I do work on it when I have time. mailto://chuck@olg.com"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (18:50)", "body": "From: Budry Darius mailto://bud5@total.net Well my stay was brief and I didn't have good look yet... I can tell you that I like talking about VRML, Java and most of the subjects you cover I'll tell you what I don't like in the future, after I analyse the site No I don't have my own page, no time to build one yet..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (18:54)", "body": "from mailto://cicely@prairienet.org Absolutely! This is a perfect excuse for me to finally check out the Spring, too. :) And thank you for your kind remarks. As a web designer and part-time writer, I'm always fidgety about the content on the Web and elsewhere with my name attached to it. It's good to see that my efforts spark interest. I'd like to see more book discussion topics, software and hardware discussion topics, human rights discussion topics, alternative living topics (as in, alternative to the frantic, dual-job, no-time, guilt-ridden, lackluster half lives that folks in my age group seem to be doomed to lead,) and space exploration topics. I think it's interesting that there's really only one topic that is patently about things Non Technologicaly related. And it's not really all that huge. I'm honored that you're interested in my input for the Spring and pleased that you've initiated this \"outside\" contact. It's always exciting for me to get email from EMinds folks. It proves that EMinds really works. I wish you peace in this season and a lucky new year, Andrea Andrea Foster Member Services Coordinator, Prairienet -= boch ghlchraj =- http://www2.vivid.net/~cicely/self/"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (18:56)", "body": "From: Jennifer Stone Gonzalez mailto://gonzalez@epix.net I'm on my way out of town for a couple of days. (To Texas, as a matter of coincidence) I will reply later in the week."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (18:58)", "body": "mailto://t.robb@rmcnet.fr Living in Europe I like to find sites with a European content - theres US stuff everywhere. I come from Sydney and welcomed to chance to check in on the old home town. I tend to spend my time off the Web and on the (fairly) technical newsgroups - so I've never bothered with a HP. Sorry I'm not much help, but I'll check out your site & be in touch if I have any ideas!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (19:02)", "body": "From: Linda Mae-Richardson mailto://linda@olywa.net Holidays are shaping up nicely: Family, Friends Food and Frolic. My kid's wish lists are growing longer than my recently-post-student budget could allow, but they still recall the days when I spoiled them silly and worked my butt off at a high-stress position. I went to a family Christmas event at a church last night and it reminded me, again, that Christmas is more about a babe than gifts. I just keep forgetting. And, again, made me realize how much I'm looking forward to being a gramma in April ... my daughter has become a teen-pregnancy statistic and I'm actually trying to remain it the excited, anticipatory, wider-world view of many societies through history where young pregnancy was encouraged and the supportive motherly side of myself. She's really quite radiant and well as a whole. An angel to be around when she visits me. (This is a tiny, tiny, tiny portion of the email I got from her... there's was lot more, all fascinating... it would unleash a deluge to get her on our system!)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (19:07)", "body": "from: dani mailto://dani@address.net I would like to see topics about social issues and not just social issues that have to do with being or interacting on and in cyberspace..but social issues that we, as people, have to deal with in our every day lives for the most part. I'm fascinated with social issues and can discuss them for hours on end, it seems. I'm speaking of all kinds of things like the death penalty, crime and punishment, the welfare system, social movements, political movements, abortion, drug problems, anything and everything that we, as a society, deal with ad naseum. I also like talking and discussing issuess dealing with the media and how it really affects our thoughts...you know, things like that. Another thing I enjoy almost more than anything (online that is) is playing MUDs...I'd like to see topics covering social aspects of MUDs as well as possible problems and possible positive interactions that add to a person's real life. Hmmm...anything else, I wonder? Nothing I can really think of at this time...bet you're sorry you asked me now, huh? You probably never expected to get this lengthy of a reply :) anyhow I appreciate you taking the time to actually ask me what I thought...I find that to be a cool thing :) And no matter what anyone posts about you and your reactions to any given thing, I'll always remember that you took the time to wonder about my thoughts. Thank you :) Take care and hope this answers your questions (ha...like it wouldn't =) ) Later... Dani"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (19:09)", "body": "mailto://billw@iwaynet.net (Bill) Terry--Sure, I'd love to have a link from the Spring to my pages. I just logged on to the Spring a few days ago and started looking around. Poked into a discussion about Buddhism which is a central interest of mine. I'm sort of a born again (!) Tibetan Buddhist, I guess. Besides that, the two things I seem to be most interested in are what people are doing with kids and computers--(especially projects oriented toward creating new work rather than CD-ROM tutorial or gaming type stuff) and digital video I can't remember if the Spring supports HTML or allows graphics to be referenced like Electric Minds. If it does it might be nice to have a conference devoted to sharing of people's online visual art. I think there are lots of amateur visual artists out there with no forum to share in who might be eager to post their work. Maybe something with a size limit on postings or a way to post big images hidden or something."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (19:12)", "body": "From: Meredith Russell mailto://mrussell@wyoming.com Content is optional- I come for the interactions rather than a specific topic although I am interested in many of the techno-geek, too new-agey to use the term new age stuff - personal growth and developement, pushing the envelope of inner experience, how to be a good person and still work for a corporation, how to not work for a corporationa and still make enough money to afford gadgets like fast computers and associated toys. I do have a home page, http://member.tripod.com/~maru/index.html but the tripod server seems to be down today, I can't get there from here either Well, blah, blah, blah, if this is interesting/useful/whatever, ask for some more, I can go on and on... I checked briefly into your place. Hot springs are another favorite thing of mine. What are you up to at your site? Meredith (I created a hot springs topic in the porch conference)."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (19:14)", "body": "Let me know if you write thse folks by posting a bried comment here. I justg wish I had more time to write all these folks the considered replies that they deserve. If you take an interest in one of the letter writers, please drop them an email of encouragement and support. If nothing else, send them some warm holiday greetings. Thanks!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (19:20)", "body": "And believe me, Linda Mae's letter must have been five pages of text, I've never received such an outpouring! Please encourage her by sending her warm thoughts and give her encourgement to visit here!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (20:45)", "body": "My interests are knowledge sharing and creation. I'm convinced that community is the next wave on the internet. Community represents a more tangible cyber product than content, it has greater creative powers and is more difficult to replicate. A vibrant community has value in the marketplace!. Value to the host through contributions from customers and visitors and value to those who converse, win-win. I would appreciate an easy way to match my interests with current and past posts. The neatest thing would be some intelligent agent that would scan my profile and monitor my wanderings and then help me locate \"interesting\" posts AND people. and monitor my wanderings and then help me locate \"interesting\" posts AND people. Does the Spring have some sage advice on community building? best software + interfaces + behavior to bootstrap, build and cultivate a strong group? I guess you are doing some e-networking with this post and would be interested to hear what results you achieve. Take care Denham ------------------------------------------------------------------- GreyMatter, Inc. Knowledge Management Consultant 828 N. Campbell Ave Call: (317) 375-8630 INDIANAPOLIS IN 46219-4517 E-mail: mailto://dgrey@iquest.net USA http://www.iquest.net/~dgrey Concepts are the currency of the knowledge age, invest wisely!! -------------------------------------------------------------------"}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (20:48)", "body": "...even though my ISP will let me setup a web page for free, I have not really been able to figure out how to do it yet. Though an avid bbs user for a few years now and computer junkie for many years before that (no phone for 8 years!), I am really new to the internet and I do not get HTML at all (duh). In fact, as much as I enjoy the discussions on eminds, I am fairly clueless as to how that interface works as well. It absolutely made my head hurt the first couple of times I tried to find my way around there. Such a cool idea though. that sounds great, I will check it out for sure, though I have never been west of New York state, so I don't know what I might add to discussions about the Austin, Texas scene... > And hoping you have a fine holiday season. ...and the same to you, Paul. Thanks for writing. Harry Pike 53 Elm Street Farmington, NH 03835 1-603-755-4851 mailto://maddog@worldpath.net"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (20:51)", "body": "From: mailto://lucas@sun.mech.uq.oz.au (Michael Lucas) [the spring] looks excellent. Had a bit of look this morning. Will go back tonight when I have fewer deadlines to keep to! Its been bookmarked next to EM in my browser!! Good hearing from an Aussie -ptw"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (21:01)", "body": "From: ----summer---- mailto://sfgibb@mail.wm.edu I'm also new to chatting - so I haven't really done much as of now (with finals coming up I'm EXTREMELY stressed) - after finals I can't wait to get talking! Let's see -about me, I'm a soph at William and Mary -thinking about a triple in Environmental, Psychology and International Studies (East Asian) -I'm taking Chinese (don't ask me why - I have NO East Asian ancestry at all) I have danced, mainly ballet, for the last 15 years, I love the outdoors - rock climbing, skydiving, backpacking,etc, and animals (my dog is probably my best friend) - I have never been in a relationship that lasted past 2 weeks -for some reason I always get tired of the guy after two weeks - but I am a true romantic - and can't wait until I find the right guy. Hmmm...I guess that's enough senseless bs about me -any topics that have to do with anything listed above would be wonderful -if you have any spare time please let me know what I should check out (and any ins and outs of the system that would make my life easier) Thanks - Summer"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (21:07)", "body": "From: Robert Hough mailto://rhough@intranet.ca I am close to 60 years old, I live in Ontario Canada about 120 miles east of Toronto Ontario. A number of years ago I drove to Brownsville (about 2200 miles) I found Texas an exciting State and the people were great. I like to hunt, fish and sell real estate. Regards Bob Hough (hoe) Belleville Ontario Canada"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (07:57)", "body": "mailto://jfield@nerak.companet.net From: (Jeff Field) Howdy Spring. Link fine Fatty. Will answer questions soon time. Pax, Cap'n Fatty I hope we hear more from Cap'n Fatty. -ptw"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (08:01)", "body": "From: jon casimir mailto://casimir@smh.com.au I'll check out spring... and I hope your hols are groovin' too. cheers, jon"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (08:04)", "body": "mailto://Michalis.Giannakopoulos@studi.epfl.ch (Michalis Giannakopoulos) Hello, (I'm sorry if I don't write english very well) My favorite topics : \"my life today\" and \"ici on parle francais\". But i don't take the time to see a lot of another topics. A topic which should be most intersting to me(but maybe I'm just not able to find it) is conversations about relationship between humans and between humans and..life, and \"rules\"of human being that people can detect or imagine. But I don't want a scientific or psychologic topic, I just like feelings of people when the're talking. I like the way that everyone speak with everyone but it seems to me that there is a big lack of humor. I don't have a web page, but I can have one. Like I already said, I just don't take the time to build it. I already have a lot of things that I want to do and I don't find the time to do it...like everybody I think..I sure like to find time to build my own home page, but I should learn it(it don't seems difficult at all). I must go to work, now. I hope I have answered to your questions. Michalis Giannakopoulos (I'd love to offer Michalis a web page -ptw)"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (08:07)", "body": "G'day, Thanks for your kind words, I would love to participate in Spring I love seeing what people's backgrounds and hobbies are. I basically love hearing others ideas on things I feel strongly about. It makes me feel part of a bigger International picture. I would like for there to be more international spots such as one from New Zealand and more from South America. I can't think of anything else but I promise to Email you if I do. I think it is important to our knowledge of other countries and cultures. Thanks once again, please write again sometime. Kylie alias Mac99 ----------------------- moyra mcnamara E-Mail: mailto://moyra.mcnamara@alianet.alia.org.au"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (08:08)", "body": "I'll go to the spring and if I have any comments that I think would help I'll tell. Julian. From: Julian Palmer mailto://far@julian.org"}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (08:13)", "body": "I'm off to work. I am some of the folks here will take the time to \"adopt\" some of these nice folks and help them go for a swim in the Spring. That would be most kind of you!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (08:53)", "body": "From: \"Nina Johnson\" mailto://NBJ695@novell4.bham.ac.uk I support disucussion of important (and sometimes less important) subjects espacially over the internet, but I prefer to use the IRC's flexibility and instant answers compared to the conferencing by posting messages. Both of them have bad point and good points in their functionality, but I just have decided on using IRC. but I just have decided on using IRC. I appreciate the good job you guys are doing, and it is about to spread into something big. But for now I have to give it a pass. But the offer for my own spot of discussion on your server DOES sound interesting. Let me think about it, I'll try and decide if I have the time for running a site like that, although I do have the topic I'd like to evoke some discussion. Thanks!! Nina"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (09:23)", "body": "Ted Julian Internet Research Manager International Data Corporation (IDC) 5 Speen Street Framingham, MA 01701 phone: 508-935-4237 fax: 508-935-4397 mailto://tjulian@idcresearch.com http://www.idcresearch.com"}, {"response": 26, "author": "Anna", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (16:17)", "body": "Paul, scrolling through the above make me realise how little I know about spring myself; all I've had time to look at besides Austen is a brief dabble in Yapp (whinging again!). I've wondered about what you're trying to do here, is there any info on Spri ng as a whole about?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:29)", "body": "Glad you have asked. I am starting new conferences and inviting new folks all the time. We've had a major upsurge in inquiries and activity in the last few days so I really hope folks here in austen will join more conferences and give the newcomers encouragement. And take a bit of time to write some of the above folks and let them know they're welcome and offer to be their \"big brother or sister\"! If there's a topic you would like to talk about besides the wonderful ones here in austen, feel feel to create it! Today, we have a lot of folks coming here for the first time and, unless we encourage them and respond to them, I fear we may lose them. The austen conference is bound to benefit from the growth and prosperity of the Spring as a whole."}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:33)", "body": "From fatty: Fatty believe chemical basis of brain will have tremendous impact in next 10-20 years. More than computers. Fatty use self example. Fatty classified Bipolar. Rollercoaster ride. Heaven and hell. Heaven, Fatty do impossible. Hell, Fatty don't do shit. Spring, take your own situation concerning the recent wipeout. You reacted very strongly, forcefully. How you react if brain chemistry different? Shrug it off? Go brood? Give up? Who knows? Action depend on chemicals. And chemical pharmacy poised for new influence. Fatty think there will be plenty competition for the new god. One way - electronics. Other way - brain chemicals. Probably end up with synthesis. But all this leave religion out in cold. No telling how religion react to encroachment from these two. Fatty predict massive social upheaval next decade, but not directly from above. Other factors play part. Topic maybe? Topic for sure! -ptw"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:34)", "body": "From Chuck Chapman: Hey, Paul, no problem. What interests me is how people, especially the press, twist things out of proportion. Some people say because pedophiles are on the net, the net is bad; or NBC convicting an innocent man (Richard Jewell) mailto://chuck@olg.com"}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:35)", "body": "I'd like to think about your questions for a moment before getting back to you, but I thought I'd write to let you know that I got your message and will reply at greater length very soon. And I'll check out Spring too - although my time is somewhat limited due to my hosting duties at Cafe Utne. But the more conferencing systems the better, and I think they complement each other, so enhancing the field for everyone! Bye for now, Michael \"Don't hate the media. Become the media.\" -Jello Biafra _______________________________________________________________ Michael Boyle (mboyle@zoo.net) mailto://mboyle@zoo.net Look for Mikes terrific posts elsewhere on the Spring -ptw"}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:36)", "body": "Would enjoy seeing greater discussion on philosophy, ideology, and technology, especially alternative energy technology. Sincerely, Evan Soule' Director of Information NEWMAN ENERGY PRODUCTS mailto://josephnewman@earthlink.net (504) 524-3063 P.O. Box 57684, New Orleans, LA 70157-7684 Websites: http://www.infochase.com/us/master/index.html mailto://josephnewman@earthlink.net"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:38)", "body": "mailto://dunard@halcyon.com Kurt needs a big boost this direction. Can someone send him some hints and tips on finding this way here? -ptw"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:40)", "body": "Hi Terry Sure you can use my comments...and if you could create one topic of interest to me on the Spring I guess it would be something that could encompass social issues...not any one issue but a place where people who were interested in those kinds of things could go to discuss things like that. Not sure how you'd do it or if you'd even want to, but that's what would interest me the most I believe. Thanks again. Dani mailto://dani@address.net"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:42)", "body": "mailto://abaker@mpr.org (Alan Baker) Paul, feel free to link to that thread, more eyes on it will help generate more and hopefully better discussion. I will keep your e-mail and do my best to answer some of your questions soon. I am under some big time constraints at the moment so if you still want some feedback and I have not responded after a week or so please send me a reminder. Best of luck at Spring.com. I have a budding interest in Database driven website so perhaps I will have a few questions for the spring.com folks. Thanks, Alan Consider it done, we'll create a database driven websites topic! -ptw"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:42)", "body": "I'll see if I can't stop by the Spring at some point. -- John Callender mailto://jbc@west.net http://www.west.net/~jbc/"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:43)", "body": "from: Mark Trigone mailto://mark.trigone@wcom.com I have not been on-line yet but plan to be soon."}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:46)", "body": "mailto://kathleenm@ipri.com My favorite topics . . . are the conversations (if you are considering those topics) in San Francisco (where I live now), Austin and Paris (where I used to live) and Justin (where I live vicariously) I'm new to the whole idea of virtual community and haven't waded out of the shallow waters of the nontechnological topics. It is . . . is a place to post brain fragments and enjoy the same from others. Can't answer the like/dislike because I have nothing to compare it to. Maybe I'll use the Spring to that end. Please check back with me in a week or two. No page of my own and no plans (yet). Thanks for the seasonal cheer, I wish you the same. best, kathleen And I wish you the same! -ptw"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:48)", "body": "I think everyone search at least one relation with someone else. But most people want more. I think there are two reasons for this. First, you can't think alone a long time without becoming a little crazy. Second, between all pleasures you can obtain on this earth, I think these provided by other persons are the best. I talk about myself and I'm just a little student but what I'm working is just a way to buy my dreams with friends. Sure I quite like what I'm doing, but I can't do only that(I'm becoming a little crazy after only seven weeks of great work). So I'm always searching for new minds and characters to \"learn\" how they work, the way they think, it's the most interesting \"game\" I ever played.It's just by derision(I hope this word exist in english!) that I call it \"game\", there are too many emotions to laugh about it. I'm not really always and everywhere searching, I already have too much work in talking with my friends, because I don't know all them very well. When I think about it, I couldn't live without them. That's the way it seems like a game : if you don't have friends, you die, if you can talk and do a lot of things with them, you have pleasure. Pleasure in general is of course the goal of the life (for me, and I think for everybody). I resolved my game by this way : doing good to people I like is a pleasure. That's all I can write now, but that's not all. I hope it responds to your question. Mika mailto://Michalis.Giannakopoulos@studi.epfl.ch"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:50)", "body": "thanks! I just want to quickly get back to you and let you know that I'm a little harried with work and holiday plans coming up. I'll try to get back to you early this week, ... sometimes messages get lost in the flurry, so I may take some reminding. Take care, joe _____________ Joe Germuska |_____ \"Once the writer in every individual comes to life j-germuska@nwu.edu |____ (and that time is not far off), Northwestern University |___ we are in for an age of universal deafness Learning Technologies Group |_______ and lack of understanding.\" http://www.nwu.edu/people/j-germuska | -- Milan Kundera mailto://j-germuska@nwu.edu"}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:51)", "body": "mailto://Lavath@aol.com if i figure out how :-) :-) Let's help him figure out how? -ptw"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:52)", "body": "Thanks very much. I will check out the Hot Springs forum you have established during my browsing time next weekend. Meredith We made your hot springs topic in the porch conference! -ptw"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (22:09)", "body": "In the last couple of days the Spring has gotten some great mail and we have new folks poking around in many conferences looking for someone to talk to. The Spring is at a major turning point! We can respond to these folks and start to gain critical mass or we can sink back down into obscurity. You can make a difference . My seeking these folks out and finding their responses around the Sprnig and encouraging them, these folks may well become regulars and the whole Spring will start to lift up. It can happen! I need your help! . I've just started working and intense job and there's no way I can give quality responses to everyone. And it's hard to keep trying to pump up every conference here except this one (which needs no pumping up). Just look at the great responses today of Stacey Vura in food and in ftiness. And the folks introducing themselves in the porch conference. And read and reread the emails that I've posted here. It can happen here! We can play on the net too! And you can help to make it happen."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (22:30)", "body": "From: Julian Palmer mailto://far@julian.org > If I could create one topic on the Spring that would potentially > be of interest to you, what would that be? Perhaps something more general. Someone has created a topic called infinity and beyond . . . about new paridigms. Something about approaching life itself. I'll have a good look around there when I can. Julian."}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (22:31)", "body": "mailto://rhough@intranet.ca Thanks for your concern, it is fine to speak of my comments. A topic that would be appreciated may be letting people know that Canada is a great Country, and is not froze over 12 months of the year. I must amit it can be very cold here at times. Also bear in mind that I live less than 45 miles by water from New York State. Thanks Again Bob"}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (22:37)", "body": "From: \"CLAUDIA VIEIRA SANTOS\" mailto://CSANTOS@MRE.GOV.BR . . . It is hard to say which are my preferred topics right now since I have just started communicating via cyberspace, I am still trying to tap on something that motivates me to become a regular. I usually go to conversations and read postings on literature and music and travel related topics. I actually feel the absence of a movie-related topic as well as pictorial arts. I love 360 because one gets to hear so much from a lot of different places and people. The reason I don't have a web page is because it never ocurred to me to have one. I will check on spring asap and let you know what I think of it. Bye, claudia"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (22:38)", "body": "Greetings back. My firm's web page address is below. I'll try to answer some of your other questions when I have the opportunity, but I haven't had a chance to look around . . . Joshua M. Peck Senior Publicist Jaffe Associates, Inc. A Virtual Consultancy mailto://peckj@jaffemktg.com URL Address: http://www.jaffemktg.com 914-578-1988 914-578-1989 (fax)"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (23:22)", "body": "Patrizia DiLucchio - pdil mailto://pdil@mbay.net pdil says: I'm the Online Entertainment editor at PEOPLE Magazine--which loosely translated means I administer the interactive components of PEOPLE Magazine's presence on Pathfinder & on CompuServe. Among my responsibilities is running the PEOPLE Online conference series--if you do something or have written something--or know someone who has--that might appeal to a large online audience, feel free to write me email about it. In what we laughingly refer to as real life, I'm the married mother of two boys & I write science fiction. So I wrote her and told her about the folks in this conference. Why don't you drop her a line suggesting she do a story about this fascinating group? -ptw"}, {"response": 48, "author": "Anna", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (23:46)", "body": "Amy - re 47; I haven't but I'm willing to do so, if that's OK with you Terry - I really need to have a closer look at the rest of spring before I comment on this, but I find the number and range of the above somewhat intimidating. Am I right in thinking that you're trying to create (a) web-based community(ies)? I have had to rearrange my schedules to allow me to participate at my current level, and I suspect many others here are in the same position. Have you considered (you may already have and I haven't found it) a welcome to spring conference and an FAQ rather than trying to handle them all on an individual basis? A general conference on life the universe and people might not go astray; besides the web, general people type discussion seems to be frequently mentioned by your respondents. You may have noticed we tend to veer to the people in general from P&P and I for one would participate in such a conference"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (01:01)", "body": "I created porch for just this reason. It's meant to be a people place and the central place on the Spring to find out what's going on, like being out on the 'porch'! If you're lacking in time, perhaps you could pick just one new person to be a 'big sister' to?"}, {"response": 50, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (01:13)", "body": "From: Archana Sharma mailto://asharma@techbooks.com First let me tell you about myself.I am Ms Archana Sharma(from INDIA).I am Computer Engineer and CNE(Novell Engineer) by profession and presently working with publishing concern. I would like to have topics on: career and jobs which is not there.I hope it will be there soon... I dont have my own web page neither I am planning as I am working and I am allowed to have my own on companys's URL. But I surely wants to have ONE MY Own Page.If you can, PLEASE do SO.I will be looking forward for it. I would like to have focus on career and jobs across nation wise.I am very interested in woking outside INDIA.But till today I didn't got any opportunity to go for it.I am looking for job outside INDIA. Mostly in USA, AUSTRIALA, Singapore,England.So, I want to have conversation mostly on jobs, and technology in computers. I will surely love to know you more as friend . . . I think U people are having holidays, So Enjoy it.Have A nice time.. BYE Regards ....Archana. Archana, we will do so. I hope you look at Austin for a job. Check out the job listings at http://www.austin360.com (go to the classifieds). -ptw"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (01:19)", "body": "More specifically: http://www.austin360.com/classifi/adtop.htm You can search for jobs with email addresses and email them your resume."}, {"response": 52, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Sat, Dec 28, 1996 (19:25)", "body": "Wrote to tdroog and rhough."}, {"response": 53, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 28, 1996 (19:25)", "body": "Will folks email this person please? From: \"John Cozma\" Subject: help me please!! i am writing an essay on the problems of virtual communities on the internet and require proof for or against the idea that the internet is a community. if you have any ideas or can suggest some sites for me to look at i would be forever grateful. Thankyou, sarah"}, {"response": 55, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Apr 15, 1998 (15:01)", "body": "hehe...good point, WER :))"}, {"response": 56, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 16, 1998 (23:45)", "body": "What do you want to bet that essay was due Feb. 8?"}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (15:32)", "body": "any new inquiries?"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (15:22)", "body": "Yes, but I am too confused to pose it properly in English. Something about telnetting, which the kindly Drratthing has taken care of,how you get rid of those thingies when you hit the wrong key out of habit and inflict them on your post."}, {"response": 59, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (13:30)", "body": "Still my olde query about STP family..."}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (15:08)", "body": "I am clueless about them, too...I can think of lots of things it might mean, but I am not going there!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (16:16)", "body": "try this... http://members.delphi.com/stpfamily/index.html"}, {"response": 62, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (16:44)", "body": "Thank you dear!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (16:25)", "body": "Looks like it might help me on... Thanks a lot! I have researched them on the web before (using Hotbot and Altavista), but didn't get A SINGLE HIT! Thank you, Stacey! Those anecdotes you mentioned... Care to collect them?"}, {"response": 64, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (17:22)", "body": "I'll see hwat I can recall from memory and write down... you should just come out to Colorado and we'll take you up to Boulder!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "cliff", "date": "Thu, Aug 11, 2005 (20:55)", "body": "If aschuth is still reading this, please email me @ scootertrampphoto@yahoo.com"}, {"response": 66, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2006 (00:06)", "body": "Monks - man erinnert sich gerne an die Guz/Monks-Coverstory der letzten Ausgabe, bzw. ich mit Scham, weil es meine Schuld war, dass der Initiator jenes Beitrags, Ralf Bei der Kellen/Osnabr\ufffdck, der auch Einleitung, Zwischentexte, etc. verfasste, versehentlich nicht genannt wurde. Das sei hiermit nachgeholt. Entschuldigung, Ralf! by Alexander Shuth from http://www.the-monks.com/5upstart_german.htm an article titled The Monks Five Upstart Americans"}, {"response": 67, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (19:31)", "body": "cool porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 50, "subject": "telnet www.spring.net", "response_count": 12, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Oct 19, 1998 (03:02)", "body": "How does one telnet?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 19, 1998 (07:09)", "body": "One, first, gets themself a decent telnet off the net by going to this url and downloading a copy of CRT and installing it on their system. ftp://ftp.vandyke.com/pub/CRT/ntcrt23b1.exe Then you need to set it up by opening it and saying yes to everything like setting up a place for the .cfg file for whatever it is. Then you go in to CRT and set up a telnet session to www.spring.net by doing the following. 1. Pull down the File menu to New Window 2. Click on New and thus open the Session Preference menu 3. Under \"Session\" put the following: Name: www.spring.net Hostname or ip: www.spring.net 4. Click the emulation tab and change the scrollback buffer from 500 to 9999 5. Go to Display and pick your favorite background color if you like in \"Schemes\" you may have to play around with this for a while. 6. Go to \"Scripts\" and put in your username and password. You're set up! Then you can click on File and New Window and open a telnet session to the spring. When you get this far, we'll give you all kinds of help. You'll find this to be a lightning fast way to navigate through all the new responses. You may want to do as I do and keep both a telnet and a web session open at the same time to get the best of both worlds. Hope those directions are clear! William and a few others may have tips for you too! Both Riette and Sonja have telnet access."}, {"response": 3, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Oct 20, 1998 (01:22)", "body": "Thanks, Terry."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (11:11)", "body": "Will you try it?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (21:12)", "body": "i wholeheartedly recommend telnetting! it is so much faster than the web pages."}, {"response": 6, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Oct 22, 1998 (03:55)", "body": "I'll try once the sister's gone. When she's on I have to look after the kids, and when I'm on she has to, and when the kids aren't here, we aren't here either! So I'll wait until everything is back to normal, and my cd covers are done, and then I'll try it. Remind me though, otherwise I'll probably forget."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 3, 1998 (05:20)", "body": "I ran it! Painless."}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Nov 4, 1998 (00:06)", "body": "well...almost, anyway..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (19:45)", "body": "Does anyone else have problems with the formatting of other's responses when using telnet? All of the responses I see are split in odd places, seeming as if the return key has been pressed at the wrong moment - anybody else? hints?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (21:14)", "body": "mike, that is a problem related to viewing responses written by those coming in via the web. i am certain there is a way to fix it but it would involve a lot of coding on the web and telnet scripts, which i will hopefully get to at some point!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (21:14)", "body": "(yeah, what Ray said...)"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (00:29)", "body": "I see others responses fine via telnet, it's mine that seem to get messed up. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 51, "subject": "will you please email these folks and invite them to join the Spring?", "response_count": 59, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 13, 1998 (08:50)", "body": "Name: Miriam Zellnik Email: mim@q7.com I live in Portland, OR, where the coffee is strong and the living is easy. Moved here 3 and a half yrs ago from NYC (where the coffee is lousy and the living is hard ;-) ...although there are certainly things I miss about the big apple) I'm currently at work on a mystery novel set in 1890's Portland, which started as a way to use some of the research I had compiled when writing an article (which you can read at http://www.anodynemag.com/june/feature4.html ) for Anodyne, a local free monthly here in Portland. Since I'm currently unemployed and living the slacker life, feel free to email me if you have any questions -- or job offers for an out of work writer :-)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 15, 1998 (08:23)", "body": "kabil@well.com Steven Neal Adams Landry"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 24, 1998 (06:21)", "body": "Omar El-Domeiri Computer Science Student -- The University of Texas at Austin Interests: free software, programming, linux, and social revolutions/delusions. I run SIGLinux, a SIG(Special Interest Group) in the UT chapter of ACM (Association for Computing Machinery). http://acm.csres.utexas.edu/siglinux Favorite Authors: I like to read books by Kurt Vonnegut, Machevelli, Charles Mackay, and Bruce Sterling. Music habits: Musicly, I'm into Punk, hip-hop (mostly older), indy-rock, and a little techno/electronica Politically aligned: No idea, definately not republican or a democrat. Will some one please email this person and invite him to join us in our discussions on the Spring?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (20:43)", "body": "I just did..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "Thanks!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "Laura Colmenero Email: colmenla@brookings.net South Dakota \"Hi,I'm a sociologist from the Great Plains. I'm new to Internet communications, but love the idea of meeting new people and keeping in touch with them and the rest of the world this way. I love to read, attend the theater, eat good food, and travel.\""}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "Sigrid Yoakum Email: sigrid@ilhawaii.net Hawaii Greetings and salutations! My name is sigrid and I live on the Big Island of Hawai'i and have need of intermittent (if not regular) contact with the outside world. I've gotten off a few times, of course, even for a couple of years once, but working on my B.A. and subsequent teacher certification kept my nose to the grind for some time. I haven't always lived here, however. I started in Germany as a baby, spent my pre- and elementary school years in Argentina and Spain, and topped that off with my highschool years in Germany. At 21, I \"flew\" away from it all, to America, the land of opportunities, specifically Wisconsin, where I stayed 12 years, before I entered a long spiritual journey that took me to Los Angels, Honolulu, Dallas, and finally, the Big Island, where I've been for the last 18 years. I have nurtured many interests at go through voracious reading spells, followed by long silences in which I digest it all. Nature is my great love, which is why I've stayed here, because it has diverse climatic zones and an abundance of flora and fauna. I'm interested in many subjects: history, geography,agriculture, anthropology and archeology, languages and dialects and Creoles, philosophies, travels, and computer applications. Teaching as a vocation is a recent realization and allows me to utilize my diverse background and experiences. I'm not familiar with chat group protocols, have been out of touch with the current social trends on the mainland, and seek deeper connection if I am to chat with anyone out there. My few experiences with chat groups were not my cup of tea. I am curious about the growing reputation of \"the Well\" and look forward to connecting to high minded fellow humans who still remember their hearts. A hui ho. sigrid."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "Tom Akin Email: takin@arnarb.harvard.edu I am a transplanted midwesterner (from a small town near Lake Wobegon in Minnesota) currently living and working in Boston. Recently divorced with a gorgeous 5-1\\2 year-old kindergartener, enjoying life's myriad pleasures found in Mother Nature. I spent six years working in the Central African Republic with the Peace Corps as an English teacher, Beekeeping Extension Educator and Agriculture & Education Program Officer (not all at the same time!) After Peace Corps I worked and studied at UMass Amherst where I found my groove with agriculture. After being downsized by Extension, I was IPM Coordinator for one of the largest commericial nurseries in New England for three years. Just recently I landed a dream job as the Assistant Superintendent/Internship Coordinator for the Arnold Arboretum, America's first botanic garden designed by the father of landscape architecture, F.L. Olmsted and the Arboretum's first director, C.S. Sargent. After gardening all day at work, I love to read and of course garden with my best little friend, the kindergartener."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "Tom Navarra Email: lprechan@en.com Where I Live: Ohio Greetings all! I've become engulfed in learning the Linux OpSys lately and am learning just how little I know. It has made staying humble a very easy task. Deep love of animals and never ending passion for learning."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (08:01)", "body": "Starlita P. Similien Email: starpowers@hotmail.com Washington Hey there! my name is Star Similien 18/f irish/french/and a dash of black in me I am currently interested in mysteries and medical thriller books I am 5'4 black hair brown eyes, long legs from track, soccer, and softball. I currently attend Ballard high School and plan on entering a 4 year school to recieve a degree in psychology and a secondary teaching degree I enjoy learning, helping others and giving back what I recieved from others. my role model in my life is someone very close to me who I look to every now and then. I am just looking for conversation that will satisfy myself and the other person. I don't appreciate strong come ons and I know you know what I mean.:@)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (06:44)", "body": "paul theodoropoulos Directory: /home/d/i/diogenes Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh Last login Tue Dec 1 08:11 on pts/17 from ns2.anastrophe.c No unread mail Plan: mail address: paul@anastrophe.com registered: mon may 17 22:43:55 1993 first registered: sometime mid-1986. formerly: theobaby, hooools, cassiel. During my tenure with the ISP Formerly Known as West Coast Online, I had no time available to participate in the Well. This was from late 1994 until spring of 1998. When I left the company that assimilated WCO (Borg transport ship _The Verio_), I took a badly needed sabbatical, from late April until just recently in October. During the later months of that break, I dabbled in the shallow end of the Well, lurking here, participating there. It was fun to poke around. I began working for Advanced Telcom Group, Inc. in late October. Initially as a consultant, since they were still rounding up their venture capital, so couldn't take on any formal employees. Funding is now complete, so as of December 1, I'm 'officially' an employee. ATGI is a CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier), one of the new 'mini- bell's' that have sprung up due to deregulation. ATGI will be delivering voice and data services to homes and businesses, initially in only a few select markets. The initial rollout will be in the San Francisco Northbay, centered around our corporate and datacenter headquarters in Santa Rosa. My role is Senior UNIX Systems Administrator. I have the good fortune and distinct pleasure of once again working with my friend and former business partner, Chris Ward. We are tasked with building the servers and network for the ISP portion of this business. ATGI is very well funded, so we have the privilege of being able to build this service with the right equipment and the right people *before* we take on any customers (WCO was a tiny, entreprenuerial startup, created by Chris from a tiny dialup BBS. We grew the network and server infrastructure as the customer base grew, and it was a constant battle to keep ahead of the service demands). The upshot is that my very brief foray back into the Well is officially ended - I once again have no time to spare keeping up with the Well. I'm writing this here because, as only a minor, peripheral part of community for so brief a time, it would seem kinda dumb to post in the 'pat yourself on the back' topic about my new job. And I'm not one to toot my own horn anyway. I can virtually guarantee that not a single soul among the 'active 200' has even noticed my departure - so to speak - nor will they ever read this monstrosity of a .plan! But I felt it appropriate to let it be known, however minimally, that I didn't join a commune, or die in a flaming car-wreck, or what-have-you. I'm just back to being very, very, busy. ciao! 01dec98 Someone invite this amazing person to join us! If he has time!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (06:46)", "body": "Login: sara-vetteth Name: Sara Vetteth Email: sarav@microland.co.in Registered: December 1st, 1998 Home Page: None. Last activity: Never logged in. Where I Live: India I'm based in India - travel a lot in the US and in Europe and am interested in wild-life and nature, photography, journalism, architecture, people, art and technology. I'm putting together a site right now on Infotech for the Indian IT decision-maker. Did you catch that Ree? \"art\""}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (06:48)", "body": "LR Fox Email: lrfox@aol.com Where I Live: Maryland Interested in birds, birdwatching, evolution, ecology, the anthropology of the web, reading. 20 years in the publishing world. Was a child of the 60's and try to hold close to those ideals. Joni Mitchell, Dylan, Hall & Oates, Bruce Cockburn, Sandy Denny, Nick Drake. Love being a father; have a 15 year old daughter involved in the arts; 10 year old son involved in being a kid. My mate is a project manager at the Smithsonian. I am a native Washingtonian (DC). College work in English, anthropology, American Studies. Right now I have my own company doing consulting for independent publishers. Books are the common thread in my life."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (07:44)", "body": "Although I'm loathe to sound like a troll peddling her goods, I *do* regularly write (and, more amazingly) get published in the sexuality genre. Those interested may enjoy viewing my site at http://www.darklady.com . I don't currently have any of my fiction online but there are interviews (Larry Flynt, Jasmine St. Clair, Bill Margold), columns, profiles (Lenny Bruce) and more. Email darkladyt@well.com Invite her! Who will step up to the plate and invite some of the above mentioned folks to jump into our fray here? Come on, dare you!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 4, 1998 (07:43)", "body": "Jon Haloin Email: dhaloin@worldnet.att.net My name is Jon Haloin and I live in Colorado. I am now, and perhaps always will be, a sutdent and the Universty of Colrado @ Boulder. I am currently majoring in Biology/Philosopy/Engineering/I'm not exatly sure what I want to do. My major intersts are music, philosopy, reading, and biking. My goal in life is to save the world. I am deeply interested in all things interesting and I want to know all there is to know. My favorite color is blue and my lucky number is 18."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 6, 1998 (19:42)", "body": "Marcus Warnke maw@well.com Hmh. Online-Bio. I have no clue what is appropriate here. Ok, I give you an wire-style version: Marcus Warnke. Comes from Lueneburg/Germany. That might explain his lousy english. Works as a consultant for profit and non-profit organizations. Does communicational skill-trainings and professionell moderations for groups and teammeetings. Has a degree in educational sciences and loves exotic academic topics like system theory (Luhmann), cybernetics (von Foerster) and the work of George Spencer Brown. More interests: sailing, karate-do, kiting, all sorts of outdoor activities. Plus cooking for friends (there are some things that can't be done online :-). First steps in virtual communities 5 years ago in an Apple-oriented BBS called Magicvillage. Graphical interface, very intuitive and stylish . Now trading style for content. That's why I'm here. More Infos needed? Send me an email. Thanks."}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (09:12)", "body": "John F. Whitehead Mail Address: jfw@well.com Computers: Macintosh, Sun, SGI, ... History: - lived near Boston for 18 years - lived in North Carolina for 12 years - played bass guitar in a variety of seedy East coast bars - worked in a virtual reality research lab in Seattle - founded the website for a great tv station ( ) Currently: - in the Bay Area and happy to be here - working at Cisco Systems as an I.S. Technologist (which basically means I get to play with cool toys) I have a home page , which, for the foreseeable future, is just my resume. You can also find my s.o. around these parts: Margaret Gifford . My hobbies include music and trying to lead a low-impact existence."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (09:14)", "body": "Peter Freeman Email: peter.freeman@estinco.com Where I Live: Switzerland in general, visiting Paris very oftenly Hi, my name is Peter Freeman I'm a swiss citizen, but my roots are rather diverse such as polish, french, spanish, english and german. I'm not married nor engaged, but definitely hooked onto Julia, a dalmatian juwel that, right now, is working as a lawyer in Switzerland. Today I am with a Management Consulting Company that specialises in growth strategies. My roots although lie in Hedge Fund Trading, and I also have worked as an IT Consultant. About my hobbies, here's a list without priorities assigned : Golf, Kickboxing, Snowboarding, Cooking and Dining, Reading, History of the 20th Century, Music, and of course spinning visions in my head about the philosophy of virtuality. Last but not least I'm outing myself as a Trekkie, but in regard to Star Wars, I hope the force is with us for all times ! Thats about it folks, let's hear about you .... Kind regards Peter"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (09:30)", "body": "Kim Bistrong Email: bistrong1@hotmail.com Where I Live: New York I am currently living in NYC, moving to the Bay Area January 1999 and want to make some friends. over the years I have been active in documentary film production and curating (specifically in Jewish-related issues) and I play old time clawhammer banjo. Am looking for someone who would be interested in hiring me or being my friend for either of the above credentials...."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (08:28)", "body": "John Button De Plan Boss De Plan De Plan Current plan as of July 11, 1996 An early retirement from the working \"civilized\" world to the laid back Caribbean as soon as possible. Current situation Slaving as a maintenance technician in the sand mines of an IC foundry in San Antonio, Texas. Been in this business since 1987 & after I've seen what goes on behind the curtains, it's amazing any of this stuff even works! Current locators Snail address: 2842 Village Parkway San Antonio, TX 78251 Email: jmb@well.com button@texas.net Voice: (210) 520-1054 Current 'puter: P120 w/ 32Mb EDO RAM A California native now living in Texas still into programming, music, computers as a public resource movies, art, the DEAD, and everything new & interesting."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 14, 1998 (09:05)", "body": "Ferguson Meek Email: fergie@scotlandspast.com Where I Live: United Kingdom I'm a web designer now although I have also been an archaeologist, hifi repairman, sound engineer, barman, stock controller... I spend some time in the present but I am usually to be found somewhere in the future or past, either in the worlds created by Clarke, Brin, Gibson, Sterling etc. or in early Scotland, Egypt, Europe etc. My website Scotland's Past http://www.scotlandspast.com is my hobby at the moment although I hope to make a living out of it soon (so I can give up my low paid web design job!) I live in Stirling, Scotland with my wife and a badly behaved guinea pig. All the best Fergie and Sylvia Johnson Email: monster2oz@aol.com Where I Live: Missouri Though I first heard of the well almost 10 years ago it has taken me that long to make my way here. I am looking forward to meeting intelligent and articulate people and, hopefully, learning a little more about the world and it's inhabitants."}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 15, 1998 (09:11)", "body": "Robin Gist mailto://robing@well.com (how do you write a bio without making it sound like your resume, or a nappy personal ad from the sleazy depths of the Guardian?) ;) my name is Robin. during the day, I build web sites for CNET. at night, I build web sites for CNET (read: 'no life'). A native Southerner, I moved to SF from Atlanta a little more than a year ago -- mostly for the change in scenery, and because I wanted to begin to appreciate the smaller things in life (hence, the euphoria I now feel when I stumble across a killer parking spot). I'm a single male, 33, into political activism, mountain biking, music (love to check out local bands), amateur radio, outdoorsy kinda stuff, road trips (how 'bout a lil' drive to the Panama Canal?), film noir and my creative side dabbles in music, watercolors and the occasional struggle with trying to put my thoughts into words. Oh yes, I love designing and building software. similar interests (or if you're into human rights and/or civil liberties)? drop me a line."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 15, 1998 (09:12)", "body": "Manou Marzban mailto://manou@well.com Hello! My name is Manou Marzban, I am 37 and work in London, England. I am a citizen of the US of Iranian and Georgian parentage. I moved to London to work with a start-up; BiblioTech, ltd. BiblioTech is an Internet services company. Wired recently called us 'Europe's premier email company', and our first service, Postmaster (a Web-based email service like Hotmail but Euro-centric, launched November 1997) is already one of the most trafficked sites in Europe. I am a graduate of American University (1986) and have a graduate degree from Thunderbird-AGSIM - one of the leading international MBA programs in the US. My interests include all things Internet, current affairs, marketing, film and sports."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (08:47)", "body": "Ellen Young Email: mui@home.com Where I Live: California I'm 43. No kids. Lady of leisure. Diletante. I thank my lucky stars for the Internet, which has brought many wonderful people into my life. Most of them live very far away. Who, I wonder, lives right nearby? Who will hang out with me and make me laugh uproariously and talk about sex and laugh uproariously about sex? I like books, beer, movies, beaches, men, women, kids, babies, moonlight, sunlight, evening walks, noontime walks, snuggling, pushing, falling off the bed, candlelight, total darkness, romance, sleazy sex, intellectual conversation, idiotic laughter, parallel lives, french bread, wine... And thou."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 27, 1999 (06:44)", "body": "medievalist2@well.com Name: Beverly Denny Email: beverlydenny@hotmail.com Where I Live: Kansas I'm an historian who likes to travel, read, go to movies, hike, eat hot and spicy foods and who loves animals."}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 27, 1999 (06:45)", "body": "Roland Mueller Email: droplonder@hats.rhein-main.de Where I Live: Germany Roland Mueller, born at the 10th of November 1956, living and working in the Rhein-Main area in Germany, profession Creative Director in a small Design and Advertising Agency. Married, no children, but 3 cats (Muskelkater, Zebulon and Nomi). Interested in bamboo, alternative biking-concepts, telecope-making, ultra-fi (tupe-amps, horn-loudspeakers), collecting classical Nikon cameras, fountain-pens (collecting just everything, eh?)... Mac-evangelist (not so easy in these days), some 5 years access to the Internet, and nevertheless more fascinated than frustrated (by the ongoing commercialisation f.e.)."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 27, 1999 (08:04)", "body": "Shubhojoy Mitra mailto://submitra@rocketmail.com"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (09:33)", "body": "Roger A Barb 2713 Little John Ln Austin, TX 78704 447-4819 This is the next mega-super-star of the web. Offer him a shell account, a dedicated webpage with a dedicated name. See Gregory Kallenberg's XL column."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (09:27)", "body": "Joerg Schieb My first contact with a computer was 1980, right in school -- an old Hewlett Packard machine with red LED display. After the first experiences with that black box my life changed completely. Now I am a Computer Journalist, freelancing, writing for newspapers and magazines (trade und business) here in Germany. Further, I write Computer Books (you know: that how to stuff), some more than 45 are published yet, and sometimes work for radio and tv stations. That keeps me having enough to eat since 1985, when I started writing, while I tended being a programmer. I \"only\" write since 1987 and I like it; today I write even short stories and things like that. My hobbys are my profession: Writing, reading, being curious, travelling, computers, the WELL, travelling in the NET, technic, people and everything else which is necessary for a good journalist. When I'm not working, I like to read (again!), visit friends, eat & drink, watch movies (in cinema, at least each week one movie), playing badminton and fencing. Or sleeping, hanging around and travelling the world (favorit places: San Francisco, Bali, Paris). Can be reached via email: joergi@well.sf.ca.us 70007.6522@compuserve.com joerg.schieb@f7101.n243.z2.fidonet.org"}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 6, 1999 (09:33)", "body": "Lynne Thompson (Poskitt) Email: lynnet@ndirect.co.uk Home Page: http://www.boxlighters.ndirect.co.uk Where I Live: United Kingdom I'm an illustrator, living in London. Favourite things - Fellini, Werner Herzog, Kieslowski, photography, France, beautiful fabrics, seafood, comedies, Mozart, Cowboy Junkies, Van Morrison, Robert Hughes (art historian), Frank Gehry, minimalism, colour, computers, the Tate gallery and Mark Rothko. I grew up on the West Coast in the '60s and have a real interest in the philosophies of that time. Following the progress and results of online communities in a totally amateurish fashion, but liking it. Last visited San Francisco in February 1990 when my husband and I bought a car and drove to Virginia before catching a plane home. First visited San Francisco in 1958, at an age when it was known as Francho Sixo."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (06:20)", "body": "Brunella Longo Email: brunella@pantarei.it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: John Magee Email: jmagee@sustainabilitystore.com Where I Live: Oregon Hi. My interests are in the areas of creating a peaceful authentic life for me, my family, and everyone I have relationships with. My work life is a combination of growing a business and consulting for fast growth companies here in the Portland, Oregon area. I am the founder of Sustainability Store, an Internet shopping site featuring products from the most environmentally and socially responsible businesses known. It is a partnership with Co-op America, a non-profit organization dedicated to creating a socially just and environmentally sustainable society. I also started Earth Care Paper, Inc. in 1983 and was its CEO for ten years. We sold products made from recycled paper and the company became the 39th fastest growing private company in America. I was named Small Business Person of the Year by the U.S. Small Business Administration."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 10, 1999 (07:17)", "body": "Tracy Johnston Email: Tracyj@ix.netcom.com Where I Live: California Well, golly. I'm a middle-aged female; a magazine editor and travel writer; author of \"Shooting The Boh: One Woman's Journey Down The Wildest River in Borneo\" -- which is, astonishingly, in its 14th printing. I consider myself up for anything, possibly even the book I'm working on now, which is about my adventures trying to find out how marriage works in Northern Nigeria. Maybe Ree could email this person? What say, Ree?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 11, 1999 (13:20)", "body": "Davide Bocelli Email: boje@polaris.it Registered: February 10th, 1999 Home Page: http://www.delocazione.com/delocazione Where I Live: Italy Davide Bocelli, European, born 1975 Student of Businness Administration (University of Parma, Italy). Now working on a thesis on urban planning of a small town (everybody is writes on big cities, I like to swin against the stream!) and I hope it will be ready for next year, when I finish my last exam.Interested in Complexity, Arts (love for Bacon, Picasso and Munch), Music (love for Nyman, Franco Battiato, Peter Gabriel), Books (love for Umberto Eco, Italo Calvino, Carl Sagan, initial infatuation for James Joyce). I play piano, I paint and I write - all by myself, so you can imagine... What else? I like to solve problems. ... editors note ... is anyone writing any of these folks?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 11, 1999 (15:59)", "body": "I have...never gotten a response, though..."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 14, 1999 (09:33)", "body": "Angeli Wahlstedt Email: sabasushi@intellinetusa.com I am a slightly frayed senior programmer/web designer for a web design firm in Denver (see www.intellinetusa.com -- I'm that big Dr. Pepper can on the beach on the staff page :-)). I live in Westminster, CO which is halfway between Denver and Boulder. If you're on ICQ, feel free to message-attack me at 10363115. :-) My interests: mysteries, billard, judo, figure skating, collecting ephemena (postcards, business cards from restaurants, street maps and things associated with the history of Denver, CO), good restaurants (especially Mexican, Indian and sushi) >> Hey, a Denverite just like our own Mizz Stace. With an icq number to boot!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 14, 1999 (09:39)", "body": "Lewis Z. Koch Email: lzkoch@wwa.com Where I Live: Illinois My background is twelve years in television news in Chicago --CBS & NBC News -- my beat at NBC from 1965-1972 was \"radical politics.\" I won two Jacob Scher awards for investigative documentaries in 1968 and 1969,and was one of the founding editors of the Chicago Journalism Review. Free-lancing for another couple of decades, including a syndicated column in the mid-70s co-authored with my wife Joanne, magazine articles, two books, and a very successful series of books (900,000 published) on AIDS prevention for families. Most recently, I have written a number of columns as a Special Correspondent for Brock Meeks' CyberWire Dispatch and am working on a couple of documentaries. >> a media maven!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (13:19)", "body": "Daniel M Quinn 611 Baylor St Austin, TX 78703 Phone: 512-479-5081 Author of Ishmael and other works, according to Barry Kort: \". . . the writings of Daniel Quinn are so interesting to me, because he describes a time unknown to most of us, when multiple cultures co-existed in a dynamic but stable tension. We are seeing a recreation of that in many conferencing sites, with one important exception. In Daniel Quinn's model of cultures predating our own, none of the subcommunities tried to annihilate any of the others. But our culture is one in which it has become manifest destiny to annihilate all smaller and weaker cultures.\" He's rumored to have a local discussion group and there's supposedly a film due out based on his book. And more from Kort: I liked Ishmael so much, I read three more of Quinn's books. My Ishmael is a sequel in which the story centers around yet another student of Ishmael's -- this time a 14 year old girl. The Story of B is a spiritual adventure novel woven around the same thinking that Quinn puts forth in the two Ishmael books. Providence is a fascinating personal biography in which Quinn describes key passages in his life that led him to eventually write Ishmael and its sequels. I especially enjoyed learning about Quinn's personal history and how he came to think and rethink so insightfully about our culture. And he appeared in the same episode of the X Files that featured Jesse \"The Body\" Ventura."}, {"response": 38, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (15:32)", "body": "this is way cool!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 10, 1999 (10:04)", "body": "Malcolm H. Teas ( mailto://mhteas@well.com ) Hey folks, I'm a software developer/web designer/web programmer/internet software instructor. I'm based in Austin TX (\"Live Music Capital of the World\", it says so right in the airport...). But I travel a lot as well. (Love the Hong Kong Bakery on Castro in Mountain View CA.) I'm a software developer who lives in Austin TX. I work there, on the net, and where ever else my clients take me. In addition to designing and writing software, I also teach other developers about writing software or making it work. I run my own company, a one-person corporation called Blaze Technology, Inc. My interestes include, besides computers and software, (in no particular order) crazy ideas, running, science fiction, math, space, and learning Chinese & French. One good crazy idea, well expressed, can brighten a whole week. See http://www.btech.com for info on my little corporation. Call 512 306-0366 to actually talk to me, or to my message machine.\""}, {"response": 40, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 17, 1999 (13:15)", "body": "What if you would like somebody to come here, but don't feel like pushing that person yourself, and don't feel like putting the e-mail address up in this topic?"}, {"response": 41, "author": "jgross", "date": "Wed, Mar 17, 1999 (17:03)", "body": "just talk to them with your hands in your pockets or email them with your hands in your pockets (use speech recognition) or just email them in a way where pushing just cannot be sensed going on at all or wear a granny dress with green on it or marry them or take on their name and impersonate them coming here with a new identity did i already suggest these things before to you, Alexander? that last line probably makes you feel uncomfortable, so i'll retract it and the other lines were pretty dumb, so forget they happened i never happened either no idea what that means (maybe it means something?)"}, {"response": 42, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (10:40)", "body": "Maybe not, but then, who cares? I mean, besides me. Oh, and why would you retract \"did i already suggest these things before to you, Alexander?\"? I really like intelligent, thoughtful suggestions, like \"There's a chip on your shoulder, Alexander, wait, I'll brush it off...\". Anyway, how is your day?"}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (11:16)", "body": ""}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (11:17)", "body": "Email it to me and I'll post it in inner, if you like."}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Mar 20, 1999 (08:30)", "body": "dita@well.com Name: Dita R Malaer Her .plan: Hi! Welcome to my bio. Since you are here, you must be wanting to know something about me. So, here you go... I graduated from Texas Lutheran University with a BA in psychology. I have never used my degree other than as a tool for getting a job (amazing what a piece of paper will do!). I now live in Austin, Texas with my two cats. I enjoy playing my djembe, dancing, reading, reading, reading, collecting books and hanging with friends. So, I guess that's enough for now. Thanks for visiting!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 22, 1999 (16:19)", "body": "Madelyn Honoria Starbuck Email: honoria@mail.utexas.edu Home Page: http://www.cyberopera.org BRAINS & SKILLS -- i'm most proud to have become the impresaria of the first cyberspace opera - www.cyberopera.org -- i'm also the interface designer for the Electronic Museum of Mail Art - www.actlab.utexas.edu -- i hold a BA in fine arts, an MA in instructional technology, and currently working on an interdisciplinary Ph.D. in mail art (networks and creativity) at The University of Texas at Austin -- i'm the community conceptualista for the soon to be born interactively wholefoods.com website PASSIONS -- my favorite creative act is mail art -- nasturtiums are by far my favourite flower -- i dream of riding in a Venetian gondola"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (08:57)", "body": "drichards@well.com I've got a patched net history going all the way back to 1985. I'm very interested in and active in VC's. My dream is to make a web-based virtual recording studio in the next couple of years. Anything from anywhere kinda' stuff. I'd like to start my own VC in five years or so. I'm busy learning from the masters."}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (09:08)", "body": "Dita R Malaer dita@well.com Hi! Welcome to my bio. Since you are here, you must be wanting to know something about me. So, here you go... I graduated from Texas Lutheran University with a BA in psychology. I have never used my degree other than as a tool for getting a job (amazing what a piece of paper will do!). I now live in Austin, Texas with my two cats. I enjoy playing my djembe, dancing, reading, reading, reading, collecting books and hanging with friends. So, I guess that's enough for now. Thanks for visiting!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (20:05)", "body": "mailto://vasocreta@well.com After recently reading an article posted Online http://www.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Ethnic_studies/latino_nii_rivera.brief I began to wonder about the future of Online communities. Now I am not new to the use of the Internet, but I am new to Cyber-socializing, or Online communities such as The Well. And I have read chapters from books and articles that speak of how the Internet can help break down ethnic, religious and racial tensions or biases in that nobody actually knows those things about other users. However, based on the above article that I read, does there already exist some presumptions that can be made about the majority of those who inhabit Internet communities?? Despite the low prices of PCs, does the socioeconomic position of many groups of people and individuals prevent them from taking part in this communication revolution?? I explore this topic because I am currently trying to complete a project concerning illiteracy in the world and how the use of the Internet and software technology will either help or hinder those people from engaging in communication in a literate world. And since most people who are illiterate often inhabit what are considered fairly deprived socioeconomic positions, I thought that it would be important to raise the issue of whether or not Internet communication is an advancement for everybody. And despite emerging technology, such as voice recognition software, at whom are these tools being directed?? The above article talks about the Latino population and how they are not in positions to take advantage of the benefits of CMC. I feel that this article can be applied to other various groups of people globally. mailto://vasocreta@well.com"}, {"response": 50, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jun 25, 2000 (11:51)", "body": "muho@well.com: Computer geek/beach bum/Buddhist living on the North Shore of Oahu. yvette@well.com: Where I Live: Oahu, Hawaii yvette: in Kailua, Oahu which we love. Also we're expecting our first child cherylynn@well.com"}, {"response": 51, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jun 25, 2000 (11:52)", "body": "Christian De Leon-Horton (echodog@well.com) Also lives in Oahu."}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 25, 2000 (16:26)", "body": "Want me to email them? Talk story with them? Gettum to post here? Just succeeded in getting a seismology student from a time zone 14 hours ahead of me to login and post in Geo. I am delighted! One by one... Is anyone else actively recruiting?"}, {"response": 53, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (06:12)", "body": "I'm hoping we can get more folks evangelizing, recruiting, enlisting, etc. Go for it. Great on the seismology student, can you tell us about them?"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (23:21)", "body": "Not too much I can tell you about Masoud, but he managed to login and get a password and is interested in both seismology and plate tectonics (like Mike Griggs)He posted once, which was a Huge accomplishment for him. He would like to apply for a scholarship for an American University somewhere to study here. He has excellent manners and is thoughtful and patient. The other new addition to Geo (not counting Mike aka Cosmo)is a student GeoArchaeologist who has actually posted a few times. I am not sure we will ever see him again. He is atttending University in England. I am currently working on a splendid 83 yr old - going on 50 retired USGS Geologist who has much to share if I can manage to get a bit of his time and pique his interest. He has looked at me and at Geo, pronounced them both worthy. Bob is still lurking on the public urls. He has made USGS quadrangle maps and sent me one of them of such complexity it astounds me."}, {"response": 55, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (23:22)", "body": "About those in Hawaii on the other islands....I can try to contact them, but have no idea what their interests are. I will drop them a line and see if I hear back."}, {"response": 56, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (07:25)", "body": "Sure! Let's try and expand."}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "I'm doing my best on Yahoo IM.....I have netted 15 cyber-sex propositions from the hormone laden young men who find me \"fascinating\" (not my purpose for posting all those sciences in my profile...) two marriage proposals... and a move-in-with-me propositon. I also got 2 to post in Geo plus another one I hope can find time to post. I am still out there. Others have checked out Geo, too... I am working on it and treading a very thin and narrow path between friendship and what they have on their minds. *sigh*"}, {"response": 58, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (16:08)", "body": "Man you're popular among the hormonal set!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (16:53)", "body": "Tell me about it.... porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 52, "subject": "Come back little Sheba", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (08:13)", "body": "I heard from Gena Ratcliff today via email, and she said she might take some time out of her busy training schedule and come by and hang out on the porch. Gena's in training for the NY Marathon, she's a Texan at heart, believe me! Gena is zx6rider@andonet.com"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (01:01)", "body": "Holly Iles, wonder where she is now?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Feb 13, 1999 (12:22)", "body": "recently talked to both Laughing Sky: \"Wer!!! Great to hear from you! Yes, I'm still around, my friend...I haven't been on the site much, and, haven't posted in a loooong time, true...I promise to drop in on you folks and see what kind of good things are going on on the board. I have moved, and, have been into several jobs, and, I can't seem to get everywhere that I want to go when I get online, these days (or offline, for that matter!) Thanks so much for checking in and letting me know that life still flourishes at the spring! Take care! Annette (LaughingSky)\" and Boogie Jack: \"Jeepers, it's been ages since I have been to the Spring, just never have time for anything anymore working 3 jobs. Some day I'll get back there again. Anyway...\""}, {"response": 4, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Feb 14, 1999 (20:41)", "body": "That was good of you to reach out to them, wer."}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (08:35)", "body": "I miss Jim. Tried to get hold of W. Meyers (of Cultures fame) and Mixu. No reply from the first, and Mixu wanted to pop over. Never did, though... I'm happy to have met Annette meanwhile (on the Spring only, of course) - but what is she up to now? Did her bad luck strain break?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "crzytrkr", "date": "Sat, Jan 20, 2001 (21:08)", "body": "hello paul long time no see porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 53, "subject": "Grievances", "response_count": 53, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:09)", "body": "you sure this is a good idea?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:12)", "body": "i'm not too sure it is. grievances might be best handled in the confs where they begin as well as via email between the parties involved and the hosts. the hosts are really the important parts of the process."}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:15)", "body": "oh. so none of you guys get into a fight in poetry. i'm not a good mediator and will end up crying in the corner. oh why did i say that...now you all will wanna see it happen!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:18)", "body": "But, as we have seen, when a grievance is with a host, it spreads across conferences...I just figured that if we had a specific place for them (yeah, I know, like we're going to limit ourselves to a topic...) then maybe the problem could be handled more appropriately because it would be a)in a centralized, neutral location and b)if it is handled in here, new people are less likely to get hit up side the head when they inadvertantly stumble across a bit of nastiness in a seemingly innocent topic... Just an idea and the topic can be killed just as easily as it was created..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:20)", "body": ""}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:21)", "body": ""}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:25)", "body": ""}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:27)", "body": "no! haha. do you think i should move a couch into poetry?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:29)", "body": "dont take the one in philosophy!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 11, "author": "PT", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:32)", "body": ""}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:32)", "body": "besides, there's two in philosophy (even if one is frozen) and there's another perfectly good one in screwed... (The Food Fight! topic in food was intended for a fun way to get out the aggression, look at what happened in there...same thing for jihad in screwed...)"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:33)", "body": "good point, PT... maybe in a nice mauve?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:34)", "body": "(btw: i never understood jihad so i never posted there). but yeah, i was thinking of ordering a couch in poetry too. so if anyone gets tired while they're in there reciting poems, you know, they could doodle on the couch."}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:38)", "body": "EXACTLY!!! (ps--can you put in an espresso machine, as well?)"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:41)", "body": "hmmm...gotta look at the budget. you know, with cutbacks and everything!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (21:01)", "body": "just wait till the end of the fiscal year then, there's always extra money that you've gotta spend or lose it out of next year's allotment..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (21:03)", "body": "so true, but it just so happens that i found a stash and now there's a couch in poetry. complete with crayons!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (21:43)", "body": "I'm heading there now! Wer, PT, will you join me?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "PT", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (02:27)", "body": ""}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (18:18)", "body": ""}, {"response": 22, "author": "PT", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (12:21)", "body": ""}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (12:52)", "body": "Oh, no, Wolf sat upon it first..."}, {"response": 24, "author": "PT", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (13:00)", "body": "That is what I thought."}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (13:19)", "body": "who made the mess?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (13:22)", "body": "*looking at wer* i sat but did not mark!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (13:35)", "body": "I can't help the fact that Wolf slipped a crayon beneath me (and in an upright postion I might add) on my way down... and as to the stray hairs, I thought mine would get mixed in with Wolf's and no one would notice..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (14:49)", "body": "owie!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "PT", "date": "Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (15:26)", "body": "That line beats, \" The dog ate my homework.\" , any day."}, {"response": 30, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Dec 27, 1998 (12:05)", "body": "'The dog stained my homework.\" Good Lewinsky line?"}, {"response": 31, "author": "PT", "date": "Mon, Dec 28, 1998 (12:32)", "body": ""}, {"response": 32, "author": "LaughingSky", "date": "Sat, Feb 13, 1999 (17:48)", "body": ""}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Feb 14, 1999 (00:17)", "body": ""}, {"response": 34, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Sun, May 9, 1999 (12:34)", "body": "Internal Server Error on trying to go to \"What do you want to talk about today?\"...wer...did YOU do that?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, May 10, 1999 (00:33)", "body": "yeah...only works right if someone posts to the topic today... I really need to fix that..."}, {"response": 36, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (18:09)", "body": "But...wait a sec...how can you POST if you can't get there...?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (19:17)", "body": "one of the many reasons I need to fix it, huh?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (07:48)", "body": "*snicker* you GO, wer - you da man! :)"}, {"response": 39, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (17:57)", "body": "Ever doubted that?"}, {"response": 40, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (18:35)", "body": "Grievence: Mike, the now ghost of a host in Babes, killed Marcia's topic after genuine objections were raised... ****This is what I tried to post there before I realized it was frozen**** Mike... Those were genuine issues... what the heck are you doing??? whose gonna keep your babes topic alive since you're never around anymore if we can't play too??? ******* I don't wanna go to drool... but I wanna be able to talk about babes too... boy ones... *grump* Most importantly I'm miffed 'cause Mike said he'd freeze it unless genuine issues were raised objecting to the freeze... Well... there were objections... you never commented/addressed/validated them... you just froze us out... *grrr* (can't growl as well as wolfie but that's how I feel) couldn't we take a vote??"}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (20:04)", "body": "Hear Hear! Thanks for the comments, Stace. I tried to post there after it was frozen and went elsewhere to do so. I don't understand...!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (20:49)", "body": ""}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (08:44)", "body": ""}, {"response": 44, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (10:18)", "body": ""}, {"response": 45, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (14:10)", "body": "Hail to GAL POWER!!!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (16:06)", "body": "I am here dear. Just put me in the mix and I think all my powers are intact. Please post away!!!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (16:09)", "body": "(Is there something I actually need to be doing other than posting? Please let me know if there is and I shall do it.)"}, {"response": 48, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (05:13)", "body": "Thanks, Marcia. You're a very sweet person."}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (15:05)", "body": "I see that I have had my plate tectonics information removed from www.spring.net and a plea for Christine to return in bigger letters than I ever got has replaced me. Ok...fine...taking my toys elsewhere and you can jolly well wait till the Spring turns to dust before she ever sees it. It would not be so bad if Geo was in the options on the left table, but apparently the power that is does not think it worthy. How could he? He has never been into Geo except to create a topic and leave it there floundering. Btw, when someone with more wisdom, in this case, put the plate tectonics on www.spring.net, it attracted Mike's attention and we all discovered that he is not only a Geologist in real life, but is doing his thesis on Plate Tectonics. Have I made my point or shall I sharpen it some more?"}, {"response": 50, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (07:26)", "body": "We're going to rotate different content on to the main page. I'd like to get you co-authoring the main page. Have you gotten in to Front Page 2000 yet, Marci? I'd actually like to have an authoring team like they do with austen.com and firth.com."}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (12:04)", "body": "I really did not have a reason to have it until this moment as I use Netscape Composer (lame, but does the job) for the Booster Club newsletter. I'll check it out. That space would be best used to showcase an otherwise unadvertised conference like SpringArk, Collecting, History, Geo or any of the other \"new\" conferences which might not appeal on first glance. Geo seeems to be very off-putting for many. I guess they think it is stuffy and dull and pedantic. Not the case at all. Check it out, PLEASE!!! (Sorry I was so out of joint yesterday when I posted...)"}, {"response": 52, "author": "Phoenix", "date": "Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (17:45)", "body": "test"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (20:22)", "body": "=) porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 54, "subject": "We need a FAQ", "response_count": 22, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (18:59)", "body": "i think that the Well (www.well.com) may have some stuff somewhere on their rules. maybe we could steal those?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:02)", "body": "hey wer, see my post in inner *smile*"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:22)", "body": "already did, Wolf, but not everyone can see in there... wanted as much feedback as possible so it can be as \"perfect\" the first time as we can get it!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:23)", "body": ""}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:25)", "body": "yeah, i know, but was thinking about cutting and pasting that one post over here to save retyping. and yes, i'm all for a ton of feedback....."}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:27)", "body": "that particular cut and paste of your post would be quite appropriate, Wolf! Do it, girlfriend!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:35)", "body": "ya think? k."}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (19:45)", "body": "1. How do I become a member of the Spring Community? 2. Are there any costs associated with membership? 3. How often can I visit? 4. Rules of Engagement"}, {"response": 9, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Dec 9, 1998 (20:46)", "body": "5. Rules of Etiquette 6. How do I start a new topic? 7. Creating a conference hotlist"}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (17:20)", "body": ""}, {"response": 11, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (13:56)", "body": "11. What if someone is abusive toward me?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (21:05)", "body": "12. Can I link to this site from a webpage?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (21:10)", "body": "are you asking permission or for directions?!?!? (I grant you permission *grin* but I'm clueless witht he directions!!)"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (21:16)", "body": "haha!!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (11:14)", "body": "how come we never got any further on this? > anyone want to take the ball and run with it?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (13:21)", "body": "two more questions for the faq, right? (or would that be three, no four more, now?) = - ) (time would probably be the best answer to the first question, Mike...)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 14, 1999 (22:10)", "body": "hmmmm........"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (00:29)", "body": "I know...where does everyone go on Sunday? Is there another place I should be and not here? I rattle around in here like a dried pea in a referee's whistle, and it is lonely. Unhappily, that is the state of affairs right now. Leaving to read a book... Aloha"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (09:26)", "body": "Aloha and don't give up on Sunday! We'll start promoting Sunday check ins, ok? I really appreciate all the neat folks you're bringing to Spring! Haven't head as much from John lately though, I hope he has some comments on Holyfield Lewis in sports today."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 15, 1999 (13:23)", "body": "I shall not give up on Sundays. This is home for my heart and mind. Nancy should be joining us as soon as they guy who took apart her computer to make her a new work station then left it undone gets her back together again. I told her we were anxious to talk to her (she misses us, also.) I am working on a third one who now lives in NC but posted the beautiful comment about seeing the eruption from at sea with the stars all around you... I will ask John about about posting something abut the fight. Yesterday,he was preparing articles for publication in a new journal on the Island, doing prep work for his teaching week, and other personal necessities for a working man (as well as doing his radio program in the morning). He just discovered that whole days can disappear out from under you when your login at The Spring (what else is new?!) He was going to ration himself a bit more to get done things which he had left neglected, bit surely he could post a comment about the fight"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (08:12)", "body": ""}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (12:27)", "body": "They are, indeed. It is my expectation he will be back with us shortly! porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 55, "subject": "today's horoscope", "response_count": 1252, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (09:15)", "body": "For all you Sag's InfoSpace Horoscopes Sagittarius A sense of unexplained mystery might hover throughout your day. It may or may not be real or easily solved. Ignore it for the moment. Your imagination may not be the most comfortable place to be right now, but it's still more interesting than the alternative. Since you might be feeling slow anyway, think about what your inner voices want to tell you. You may need to request time alone to deal with something you thought you had gotten over a long time ago. Do you need to check in with someone? Act on these feelings tomorrow if you still have them."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (22:55)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of January 7, 1999 The ancient Greek word klimax had several meanings. My favorite: a ladder to heaven by which a dreamer's soul arrived at an erotic tryst with a divine being who imparted precious secrets. I bring this up, Cancerian, because I believe the fates will bestow the gift of a klimax on you this week. I hope you'll keep a pen and notebook by your bed so you can scribble down a record of your electrifying rendezvous right after it occurs. I swear it'll become a metaphorical talisman for you, the symbol of a new chapter in your mythic quest for intriguing love."}, {"response": 3, "author": "wer", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (00:39)", "body": "SAGITTARIUS (Nov 22-Dec 21) Week of January 7, 1999 Even if you're not a starving artist, you're on the verge of a coup that every starving artist dreams about. It's the arrival of an X-factor that could help you get funding or hike your ratings or attract a booster. And get this: You may only have to sell out a little bit in order to claim your prize, perhaps not at all. In fact, the deal probably won't come together unless you're at least 90 percent faithful to maintaining your integrity. So make your wares more visible, Sagittarius, but without resorting to vulgar hype or exaggerated claims. With quiet confidence, promote the simple truth about what a miracle you are."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (06:17)", "body": "Check that out Ree Head!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "PT", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (14:50)", "body": "Wow, wer, where are you getting this stuff?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (14:52)", "body": "http://www.realastrology.com/"}, {"response": 7, "author": "PT", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (15:01)", "body": "Thanks, I'll have to check that out."}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (22:01)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of January 14, 1999 I'll confess a deep, dark secret from my own past if you confess one from yours. Me first? OK, In the 1980's I wrote a sexed-up astrology column for Gentleman's Companion, a porn magazine edited by Larry Flynt's wife Althea Flynt. What's worse, I secretly enjoyed it. Now it's your turn, my fellow Cancerian. Find a good, kind listener you can trust with your shame, and share your terrible burden. You'll be amazed at the psychic energy it'll liberate."}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (22:03)", "body": "SAGITTARIUS (Nov 22-Dec 21) Week of January 14, 1999 These days you have an unusually strong talent for spotting vulnerable chinks in the armor of allies and enemies alike. On the other hand, your allies are highly inclined to see the best in you and your enemies are liable to overestimate your strength. So are you going to milk these odd blessings for all they're worth, Sagittarius? No, not unless you're willing to risk one hell of a backlash in a couple weeks. But you can safely milk them for about half of what they're worth."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (05:35)", "body": "These are wacky."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (05:50)", "body": "InfoSpace Horoscopes Sagittarius The reality that you've been eluding finally catches up with you. You may be pleasantly surprised at how palatable it can be. Are you sure you didn't suspect that one of your followers holds a special affection for you? You may not need to make a decision now, but at least you know the possibility exists. Once again you manage to turn a normal day into an exciting journey. The only difference from the last few days is that now you feel more responsible for your actions. If you're already behaving like a saint, so much the better."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (07:26)", "body": "And here's Sag's from the local http://www.astrofish.com Kind of a local slant on 'scopes . . . Thursday, 14-Jan-99 07:18:55 CST I was doing my humble duty and hauling the trash out to the back of my truck this morning, and I thought to myself, \"Self, this is an excellent metaphor for Sagittarius for this week.\" Now, what you need to remember this week is to put a tarp over all that trash which is riding around in the back of your truck. You might want to make a detour or two before you get to the dump. And nothing is worse than having all your trash, the stuff you were trying to throw away, get scattered all over the highway. Worse, is finding it on the mythical Main Street. I just worry that my garbage might wind up on Congress Avenue, here in town. So do a little follow up on your trip to the dump, and make sure you don't scatter too much trash before you get there. Some obnoxious person might find your address and then it's a scene from a song, just like \"Alice's Restaurant.\" ... and the grumpy sister down the road in Cedar Creek just called a few days ago to complain about a pizza box in my trash. Jennifer denied it and so did the rest of my room mates."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (07:30)", "body": "And from the same site, here's Cancers: Does the term \"flame\" mean anything to you? I'm not talking about the term \"flame\" as in searing heat of a BBQ lit flame. No, and I'm not talking about the pejorative use of the term of \"flaming\" as in respect to a person's apparent sexual orientation, either. Nope, the flame I'm talking about is reserved for a virulent form of written communication, oftentimes referred to as \"flame mail.\" Flames get fanned into a roaring fires, and often as not, over some stupid little idea. So this is a week to be careful with that communication because I know you're right, you know you're right, it's just that third party who seems to be a bit obdurate. Don't fan their flames, if you know what I mean."}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (23:13)", "body": "so you read XL today too, huh?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (05:40)", "body": "Yep, you saw my comments about the Spring being ignored in Gregory's pebbles awards for local websites. Did you write your protest letter yet? Has anyone? In case you forgot, it's: Gregory Kallenberg - gkallenberg@statesman.com This is the one and the same Gregory Kallenberg who once wrote: \"If you're looking for the best online gossip and chat in Austin and surrounding areas, you shouldn't miss Spring.net. On his site, you can talk about anything from art to Internet to sex. It's edgy and cool.\" - Gregory Kallenberg, tech culture column, XL, Austin American Statesman, 8/27/98."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (05:47)", "body": "InfoSpace Horoscopes Sagittarius All at once, you might lose your sense of humor. An act or a word could hit too close to home, and it is no laughing matter. As long as nothing too serious has happened, you will be yourself again soon enough. If a financial setback, however minor, seems to color everything a shade of gray, try to console yourself by thinking about the other things in your life that matter. The people in your life are determined to get some of your attention even though you think you want to spend the entire weekend moping about money, . As long as the gang doesn't insist on going shopping, you should have a good time. Well, scratch that weekend at Highland Mall off my schedule. Riette, watch out for that gang of shoppers!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:09)", "body": "yes, Terry, I did..."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:16)", "body": "Thanks! What about the rest of youse!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (11:46)", "body": "(the url above for astrofish should be http://www.astrofish.net/ )"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (18:53)", "body": "They change their scopes once a week instead of daily."}, {"response": 21, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (02:24)", "body": "HOROGIRL's Horoscopes for 1999 CAPRICORN (December 22 - January 20). It may not be the most romantic year of your life, but hey--at least you're not suffering like some of the other signs. News for this week is good for your finances---and how they reflect the real you! You are all set for a huge professional push, and this week gets you going. AQUARIUS (January 21 - February 18). This year, You want to go wild---and that seems like a good idea, but be sensitive to a few times throughout the year when that will backfire on you ROYALLY. This week, you are the love-bucket. Fill 'er up! PISCES (February 19 - March 22). You're more focussed on getting work right, rather than love---at least for a pisces. That's your saving grace this year. It's true for the whole year, and never more so than this week. Use the early part of the week to get your support in place, before you do a Garbo, and retreat to your solitude for the real work. ARIES (March 23 - April 20) BE ALL YOU CAN BE---but don't eat all you can eat. Jupiter is in your sign this year, so you'll rock. Jupiter rules everything BIG---so think big, act big, plan big, but be careful with what you eat, or you'll BE big. Sky's the limit---as long as you don't totally piss people off. You've got a choice, be your own egotistical bad self, all by yourself, or work it a little, and make room for someone else's viewpoint in your world view. TAURUS (April 21 - May 22). Hide under a rock. Wait, no, don't hide under a rock. Whatever you do, wear a seatbelt. This could be the year you take off---but what a year it will be! Oh yeah, and--rely on your friends. Don't fight them. You're a lover, not a fighter. Remind yourself of this often, over the course of this next year. You've got a couple of REALLY wild years ahead. This week, your career gets back into the swing. GEMINI (May 23 - June 21). Power struggles, baby. They're exciting, right? Yeah, and life changing, and dangerous. Just bear all that in mind. It's a weird one--year, not week---for you. Lots of work, that may seem to be exactly what you DON'T want to do----and may SEEM to be out of keeping with your plans for yourself, and your ideas about yourself. Don't be so sure. Relationships are big, though,and even if the year is weird, YOU are are at an unusal creative peak. This week is a juicy one, so enjoy. CANCER (June 22 - July 22). Just be glad you're not a Taurus, this year. Money is a big focus this year, so pay close attention to your resources, and how they fit into your plans. Don't lend money to one night stands. In fact, you might not even want to lend money to your husband or wife, this year. Love and money don't mix well for you this year. This week is a good time to start. LEO (July 23 - August 23). One word for the year: ouch. Remind yourself that sometimes it hurts a bit to get a splinter pulled, or some other necessary minor evil cleared, (which frees you up). Big success is definitely available to you---huge success. But there are a few splinters in your butt along the way. VIRGO (August 24 - September 23). You'll probably manage the turmoil and tumult of the year better than most. Bless you. My only warning has to do with love/sex/friendship: Don't make a \"brother\" or \"sister\" into a lover, this year. And vice versa. This week, enjoy the love at home AND at work. Its a little creative bliss factory. Time to get to work on things you love! LIBRA (September 24 - October 23). How to balance the need for excitement and dramatic flair, with your long term desires? Some of you will just do it by having the wildest year imaginable. That's one way to avoid answering the tough questions. But the REAL male and female libra mensches out there will do it by having the hottest, most challenging, most rewarding, and most stimulating one-on-one relationship of your life. SCORPIO (October 24 - November 23). Yikes. Watch your temper, and the temper of others about you. That doesn't mean supress it. But whoa. What an explosive year. Be grateful for your true friends. And try not to pick fights with them. That goes for lovers, too. Learn how to fight fair, and then you can fight all you want. This week, it's not really a problem, though, so just enjoy that! SAGITTARIUS (November 24 - December 21). Oh, just go wild this year. Who cares-- it's the last year of the millenium. Keep busy and keep working. It's another crazy year for you---but you're getting used to that, and that's a GOOD thing! This week, you'll mostly have fun, running around like crazy."}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (10:49)", "body": "Here's mine and Ree Girls.. the Sagfolks. (what are some other signs here besides wers Cancer?) InfoSpace Horoscopes Sagittarius Everyone has a good heart and an open mind today. It could be because your presence makes them feel valued. Or because your words carry the weight of truth and the softness of compassion. You feel safe among strangers you might normally fear. In fact, you wonder why you ever worried about them. All people are filled with the glow of their humanity. Nobody has anything to hide. You might be called upon to make a speech -- whatever you choose to say, you will impress them. An acquaintance feels drawn to deepen your relationship."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (09:43)", "body": "Sagittarius Keep your mind and schedule open. Leave blanks to fill in in your little black book and time available to schedule some fun. You are quick to comprehend and apply new ideas. These could be yours from your brain or from the masterful minds of others. Ignore your mother's advice and talk to strangers. Start up a random conversation in order to figure out someone's story, but make sure you have their permission or it could seem a bit strange. Go someplace different and pretend to be someone else."}, {"response": 24, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (21:52)", "body": "now that one I like...especially in the context in which it is being presented!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (08:43)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of January 21, 1999 One approach you could take, I suppose, would be to seize the Devil by the nose with red hot tongs and make him promise to never, ever tempt you again. Unfortunately, though that may be effective in the short run, it's likely to result in him seeking revenge at a later date. A better angle, in my opinion, would be to negotiate with the Devil. Tell you'll agree to be thrown into an uproar by certain selected temptations as long as they have the potential to make you wiser, sexier, and funnier."}, {"response": 26, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (08:44)", "body": "SAGITTARIUS (Nov 22-Dec 21) Week of January 21, 1999 Today, Sagittarius, wear rags and sprinkle dirt on your head to signify your insignificance and humility. Tomorrow, bedeck yourself with silk and crown yourself with a garland to express your profound diginity and divinity. The next day, combine the adornments of the previous two days and celebrate the raging contradiction that is your life. Maybe then you'll be receptive to my belief that the best way to pursue your dreams is to cultivate a passionate indifference to the question of whether you are an unimportant nobody or a glorious hero."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (13:19)", "body": "But, I always wear rags ..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "well, sounds like you need some silk ones, as well..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Jan 23, 1999 (17:37)", "body": "Scorpio here."}, {"response": 30, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 24, 1999 (13:22)", "body": "SCORPIO (Oct 23-Nov 21) Week of January 21, 1999 A private citizen, James Swann, once paid off the entire national debt of the United States out of the goodness of his heart. It was back in 1796, when the sum was puny compared to today's $5.6 trillion. Still, I think we could approach a similar feat in 1999 if a whole gang of America's top plutocrats pitched in. Now it so happens that this is an excellent time for Scorpios of all stripes to overflow with charitable contributions, whether it be of the financial or emotional kind. Therefore, I call on Scorpios Bill Gates and Ted Turner to get the ball rolling. Pony up $50 billion between you, dudes, and we'll be almost one percent of the way home!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Jan 25, 1999 (22:33)", "body": "Ugh! My karma is about finances??"}, {"response": 32, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (23:53)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of January 28, 1999 My left brain pontificates, \"You're not performing your duties in a manner consistent with the task of becoming a more efficient and useful social unit.\" But my right brain screams, \"Explode the goddamn mold, wild maestro! Bust out of your straitjacket and jam it in the jaws of the neurotic guard dogs! Spit into the winter wind! Moon the wrongfully privileged!\" Meanwhile, my north brain coos, \"Please carry out your duties in a manner consistent with the task of quietly dismantling the goddarn mold.\""}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (23:56)", "body": "SAGITTARIUS (Nov 22-Dec 21) Week of January 28, 1999 If you're offended by vulgar metaphors, even those designed to shock you into being more ferociously true to yourself, stop reading now. This horoscope contains graphic testimony from a Sagittarius reader. \"Years ago,\" says Janet from Austin, \"a therapist told me that eventually I would hear a Big Pop. It would come, he said, when I got my head out of my ass. Now, finally, I think I'm close to fulfilling my shrink's prediction. Why? Because I realize how my beloved Jupiterian expansiveness has hurt me. I see that I'm a great problem-solver for everyone else except myself; I help the whole world but neglect to help poor old me. Tell me I'm ready, Dr. Brezsny. Tell me the Big Pop is imminent.\" (Dear Janet: It is, for a majority of your tribe.)"}, {"response": 34, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (23:58)", "body": "SCORPIO (Oct 23-Nov 21) Week of January 28, 1999 Psychologist James Hillman says images have an uncanny power to hurt or heal. In that spirit, I offer you a dream I had; may it cure your smoldering dementia. In the dream, you're a mad scientist, clad in purple frock coat and orange pants, who has just run out of your laboratory clutching test tubes full of bubbling green liquids. You seem exasperated, at wit's end. You turn your face up and yell in the direction of heaven, though your words sound like gibberish. In response, the giant hand of God reaches down from the clouds to offer you a boon. The fingernails on the divine hand are painted cherry red and there's a blue band-aid partially covering a booboo on the wrist. And the gift? It's a miniature pink ferris wheel with six yellow canaries riding in the cars."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 1, 1999 (09:21)", "body": "That Sag 'scope is awesome, does that apply to you as well, Ree Ree?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:04)", "body": "cancer for TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 2 Priorities change over time, and refusing to review them can leave you trapped in a time warp. Eliminate what's obsolete to make room for the new. You're plenty competent in your career, but your unpopularity with a superior could block your progress. Someone who wants to be kissed where you won't put your lips can be appeased by other means."}, {"response": 37, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (00:42)", "body": "I don't even GET mine! I'm sure all that imagery is supposed to be significant..."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:41)", "body": "InfoSpace Horoscopes Sagittarius Your job description or your role around the house may not allow much room for flexibility. You don't have to be so boxed in, though, think about what you'd like to change in your immediate environment. If you plan well enough, you can get the wheels spinning in the direction of your choice. You can control your course better than anyone else. You work efficiently, although perhaps without much joy. Could you be diminishing your own accomplishments or not rewarding yourself for a job well done? It would help if you felt your efforts on the job were worth something more than merely a paycheck. What type of work would make you feel good? Answer. Quality assurance in a bikini factory."}, {"response": 39, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (14:20)", "body": "Gemini: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 The sun is in Aquarius and the Moon is in Virgo. You can learn an enormous amount today, possibly through a conversation with a foreigner. It looks like there's some sort of distance involved. Either you're calling long distance, or the person is from far away, or you're actually getting this information in a college setting. That's one of the other possibilities, since travel, foreigners and colleges are all covered by the same area of the chart. At any rate, It looks like the information is there. All you have to do is soak it up. Later, there will be a conflict that's not so easily resolved. Things won't come together, but don't despair. A separation may actually be better for all concerned right now, leading to growth and new insights. On a scale of 0 (most challenging) to 10 (easiest), here are your levels for today: Love: 5 Work: 6 Communications: 7 By Linda Black, Tribune Media Services syndicated columnist. (oh no, they're gonna send me back to the desert!)"}, {"response": 40, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:37)", "body": "maybe the distance thing just involves us here on the Spring, Wolf..."}, {"response": 41, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of February 4, 1999 My dictionary of symbols says that the king's highway is an ancient term that means an undeviating path leading straight to the source. It represents a vigorous and high-minded approach, and in most situations I would recommend it to you. Not now, though. I believe that on your current mission, you would go astray if you took the king's highway. Only a scruffy, winding path will teach you all you need to know to take full advantage of the treasure you'll find at the end of your journey. Let's call this crooked course the trickster's highway."}, {"response": 42, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "maybe....could read anything into it, huh? and folks have been pretty scarce around here."}, {"response": 43, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:41)", "body": "GEMINI (May 21-June 20) Week of February 4, 1999 I'm sure that at various times in the past, you've had your heart stolen and your mind blown. But have you ever had your mind stolen and your heart blown? Speaking of amazing sensations, you know the funny-bone feeling that's usually localized in your elbow? This week you'll be visited by a psychic, head-to-toe version of it. There's one other boggling sensation in the works, too, but in order to get the full benefits of it, you'll have to make yourself outrageously receptive. Have you ever taken an out-of-body jaunt while you were still more or less awake, giving you glimpses of gorgeous new temptations that ultimately inspire you to rise above your satanic self-denial?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:42)", "body": "SCORPIO (Oct 23-Nov 21) Week of February 4, 1999 Joseph Campbell said that in fairy tales, protagonists who drop the reins as they ride their horses are symbolically giving in to instinct. And since I dreamed of you doing exactly that last night, I'm quite concerned. While such a surrender might be healthy at times, it isn't now. You urgently need to go against the flow of your natural patterns and ancient habits. In fact, your creative energies will flourish in March only if you sublimate and transcend like mad during the next two weeks. So please try to correct the problem some night soon: Dream of keeping a firm grip on the reins--or, if you happen to be driving a vehicle, on the steering wheel."}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:43)", "body": "(and back to your bikinis, Terry...) SAGITTARIUS (Nov 22-Dec 21) Week of February 4, 1999 Events this week will make a man out of you--if you're a woman. And they'll make a woman out of you if you're a man. I'm exaggerating a little, of course. The transsexual crossover I'm talking about will be happening in the deep dark closet of your psyche. Nevertheless, it won't be a mere abstraction. Your body will undergo actual chemical alterations. And woe be to you, by the way, if you think there's something bizarre about activating more of the qualities of the opposite sex. You now have a very sexy opportunity to become a more complete and attractive human being."}, {"response": 46, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:44)", "body": "(and yes we have, Wolf...)"}, {"response": 47, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:46)", "body": "that one you posted for gemini sounds pretty interesting....."}, {"response": 48, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:48)", "body": "doesn't it just! thought you might like it..."}, {"response": 49, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:48)", "body": "ooooo...i can't stand all the tingly sensations..... (good to see you wer!)"}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:51)", "body": "I made Wolf ting-gle... (you, too!)"}, {"response": 51, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (15:52)", "body": "*giggle*"}, {"response": 52, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Feb 7, 1999 (12:28)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22): Cancerians will find this to be a good day for fun and creativity and perhaps for some delicious romance, too -- get ready. Those involved with sales and marketing will get good responses from campaigns and advertising, while all Cancers will have a day in which even the most complicated or difficult message is easily delivered. If you are married or in a committed relationship, either you or your partner may be feeling uncomfortably possessive, which is creating many problems. Try to keep your head down and move on, staying where you are will do no one good."}, {"response": 53, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (08:52)", "body": "InfoSpace Horoscopes Sagittarius The range of possibilities is overwhelming. Everywhere you look, there's something else to distract you. If you overindulge your daydreaming, it's going to slow you down. Your mind might wander so far, you could get lost. It's good to dream, but it's better to get your work done and fulfill your responsibilities first. Shift gears and match speed with reality. The world out there is every bit as good as you could imagine. Communication is key to enriching your relationships with those who are close to you. Your art or creative means of expression helps others get to know you and accept you with all your unique facets."}, {"response": 54, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (21:50)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22): You have bent over so far backwards for others that you are staring at the ceiling. Just lie there and collect your resources for a long, refreshing moment. Soon it will be time to stand up for yourself. Giving too much will leave you empty, so make a promise to yourself to indulge in something wonderful right now. A tension is being strung between your work life and matters that are important to you on the home front. You must strive to balance the two or the situation will worsen."}, {"response": 55, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (21:51)", "body": "will get back to ya'll on that one..."}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 10, 1999 (06:43)", "body": "I'm still working on yesterdays."}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (02:33)", "body": "Riette and Terry's SagScope for today: InfoSpace Horoscopes Sagittarius You come back down to earth after your last round of festivities. Your spirit is still jovial and expansive, but the incoming Capricorn Moon gives you a purpose and a plan. You've had a good time and have been able to relax. It is good to release some of that pressure you have been under. This could be one of your best days ever. A good day to plan for the future. If you are going on a journey, make sure your passport is in order. Visit distant countries, and make new friends."}, {"response": 58, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (10:16)", "body": "(mental note for March: transcend! evolve!)"}, {"response": 59, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (12:23)", "body": "Cancer (June 22 to July 22) You can look forward to seven days and nights of diarrhea...and a lifetime of drinking Pepto-Bismol."}, {"response": 60, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (12:34)", "body": "oh my."}, {"response": 61, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (12:55)", "body": "infoseek gemini: The Sun is in Aquarius and the Moon is in Capricorn. Your ruling planet, Mercury, is going into Pisces today. This should be kind of interesting, since Pisces is in your Solar Tenth House of career and success. Many people are successful in something that they find rather confronting. For example, you would be most successful quite probably in a career where you take care of others. You're good with communication skills, so you might not have thought of that, but healing is the real avenue you could find most satisfying. Give it some thought."}, {"response": 62, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "alright already... gimme Aries somebody!!!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (14:46)", "body": "infoseek aries: The Sun is in Aquarius and the Moon is in Capricorn. You're getting a lot luckier today. Jupiter, the big planet of good luck, is going right into your sign. That's the good news. The rather tricky situation that's developing is that Mercury, the planet symbolizing the mind, is going from analytical Aquarius into emotional Pisces. Now, when Mercury is in Aquarius, it helps you figure things out more quickly. You tend to be sort of an analytical type, so that's just more power for your natural tendencies. But when Mercury is in Pisces, it's teaching you how to be sensitive, warm, cuddly and intuitive. Those are all nice qualities to have, but when you're racing full speed ahead, you might be more likely to forget all about them. That'll be your biggest problem today, so watch out for it. (your welcome stacey! *grin*)"}, {"response": 64, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (17:54)", "body": "THANKS! but it's not right... i'm RARELY analytical and ALWAYS emotional!!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (20:26)", "body": "oh what do the stars know anyway? (mine makes me superficial and flighty--i'm NOTHING like that in real life *giggle* (ok, not superficial)"}, {"response": 66, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (23:45)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of February 11, 1999 Wild-hearted Mars plunged into your House of Erotic Intrigue two weeks ago, and will be swirling around in that sensitive area for an unprecedented five months in 1999. (The last time Mars made such an intense and prolonged visit here was the first seven months of 1984.) I predict that in response, most of you Cancerians will be consumed by one of two fates. Some of you will fall prey to the idiotic notion (propogandized incessantly by pop music) that love is more meaningful when it's interwoven with jealousy, deception, and obsession. Others of you will explore scarily sacred depths of intimacy with partners you'll learn to trust more than you thought possible. Decisions you make this Valentine season will have a major impact on which path you ultimately take."}, {"response": 67, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (23:46)", "body": "ARIES (March 21-April 19) Week of February 11, 1999 My Valentine's gift to you is to help you boost your sense of how attractive you are. To start, close your eyes and visualize the most alluring person you know. He or she is standing in front of you, wearing whatever you want or nothing at all. Now imagine that this gorgeous angel is gazing at you with tender desire. Bask in that aura for a while, then add to the scene another equally stunning person, also giving you goo-goo eyes. Insert still another raving beauty or irresistible hunk, and another, and another. Don't stop until you have arrayed before you in your mind's eye ten enticing people of your favorite gender--and they're all glowing with sweet hot love for you."}, {"response": 68, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (23:49)", "body": "GEMINI (May 21-June 20) Week of February 11, 1999 I have a special togetherness exercise for you and your Valentine. It's called Siamese Twins. First, go to a thrift store and buy a jumbo unisex outfit, like a Godzilla-sized sweater and sweat pants with a 60-inch waist. At home, strip down to your underwear, then squeeze yourselves into your joint costume. Each one of you will be able to have only one arm waving free, of course. The other will have to be wrapped around the torso of your sweetheart beneath the sweater. Similarly, each of you gets one pant leg for both your legs. Once you're ensconced, spend two hours and 22 minutes working as a single, coordinated unit: Tie shoes, prepare tea, play hopscotch. Careening crazily till you fall down is highly recommended; let's see how good you can get at lifting yourselves up when you're like a turtle on its back."}, {"response": 69, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (23:50)", "body": "SCORPIO (Oct 23-Nov 21) Week of February 11, 1999 Polls reveal that almost three-fourths of all people think everyone else is having more fun than they are. For Scorpios, the percentage is even higher, an incredible 88 percent. Given your preference for intensity over contentment, and deep meaning over nice gestures, your suspicions may actually have a factual basis much of the time. I can assure you, however, that they are utterly without foundation right now. Every cosmic omen is screaming to me that this Valentine season should begin one of the happiest, most pleasurable periods you've known in years."}, {"response": 70, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "SAGITTARIUS (Nov 22-Dec 21) Week of February 11, 1999 Which will it be this Valentine season, boss, war or love? You can't have both. Will you devote your considerable resources to designing an ingenious and covert form of revenge? Or will you channel that same energy into conjuring a breakthrough in your ability to blend compassion and lust? To define the question from a different angle, will you exultantly spew out projections of ugliness on your beloved enemy, or will you diligently hunt for the missing keys to awakening your beloved's secret fire?"}, {"response": 71, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb 13, 1999 (00:20)", "body": "Cancer's Year Ahead: You excel in snuggling. But in 1999, you'll get a crash course in sex from Mr. Libido (a.k.a. Mars). There will be a strong emphasis on hands-on experience. Classes go from January 26th to March 18th. After a review period from May 5th through July 4th, lessons resume until September 2nd. Your required reading is the Kama Sutra and The Joy of Sex. You'll have lots of homework, so get ready to burn the midnight oil."}, {"response": 72, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb 13, 1999 (13:47)", "body": "Cancer's for the WEEKEND OF FEBRUARY 13 Don't be frustrated by the slowness of a revelation. Information that comes incrementally is more easily encoded. Mind your motives and your integrity with regard to a partner. Disappointment is no excuse to break the rules. Practice better economics so that debits don't exceed credits. A Sunday frolic with a loved one provides overdue fun."}, {"response": 73, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Feb 14, 1999 (20:44)", "body": "Love those cosmic omens!! Yessir, this is going to be my millenium, I just know it..."}, {"response": 74, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (21:49)", "body": "Cancer for MONDAY, FEBRUARY 15 An unexpected disruption may dash your plans\ufffd-- but you're good in a crisis, because you're quick on your feet. The need to dance to someone else's tune makes you appreciate your own choice of music. Beware of blind optimism. Look before you leap into a seemingly great opportunity. It may not sustain the weight of your expectations, and could collapse under heavier scrutiny."}, {"response": 75, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (00:21)", "body": "cancer's for WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 17 It's a beautiful day to frolic in the recesses of memory and imagination. In other words, you need a break from reality\ufffd-- perhaps to repair a broken heart or spirit. Creativity you can't contain may lead you to investigate a new career. The steps necessary to make the transition aren't as onerous as you think. A flurry of worry dissipates as you indulge in recreation."}, {"response": 76, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (16:00)", "body": "Gemini: 17 Feb 99 The Sun is in Aquarius and the Moon is in Pisces. Your assignment for today is to listen carefully. It looks like someone is trying to teach you something, but the lesson may not come through words alone. You're also being taught by example. A person you admire very much is quite likely to do something you find difficult. The clue here is that this person finds it easy. If you see something like that happening, pay attention. You can mimic what the other person does, even if you can't quite explain it. Imitation, besides being the very best form of flattery, is also an excellent way to learn."}, {"response": 77, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (17:46)", "body": "so, what didja learn?"}, {"response": 78, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (19:01)", "body": "that they're sending me off into the wild blue yonder again in spring."}, {"response": 79, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (21:54)", "body": "same bat-place, same bat-station?"}, {"response": 80, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:54)", "body": "nope, better locale, but still, i'll miss my baby girl's 6th b-day. she'll never forgive me :("}, {"response": 81, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:59)", "body": "gemini, 19 feb: The Sun is going into Pisces and the Moon is in Aries. The Moon's transit through Aries today should let you know who your friends are. They're the ones who are bringing you good luck, but also a little stern coaching. If you get off track, one of your friends is bound to let you know about it and reel you back in. That's important, because sometimes you get sidetracked. Today, that's not a good idea. As the Sun goes into Pisces, where it'll be by tomorrow, your career opportunities start opening up. You're going to have to have done the homework, though, or you won't be ready when opportunity knocks. Today, practice."}, {"response": 82, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (13:58)", "body": "Sorry to hear that Wolf, it would break my heart to miss one of my children's birthdays. Where are you going?"}, {"response": 83, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (16:14)", "body": "that horoscope for us twins should've read 18 feb. autumn: out in the middle of nowhere, basically."}, {"response": 84, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:05)", "body": "Maine?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:06)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of February 18, 1999 After a long and semi-brilliant reign as your kick-ass guide, one of your major influences is about to lose more than a little of its hold on you. This is a stealthy turning point that's best faced on an empty mind, so please wash your brain thoroughly. The fertile new imprints that are on their way will be much more effective in inspiring brainstorms if you're not being a nice, polite Crab trying to stay loyal to the memory of your old teacher."}, {"response": 86, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (13:23)", "body": "cancer's for FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 19 Don't inhale a superior's hot air. You may be impressionable, but you're not blind to the writing on the wall. Your challenge is to be a rock of stability amid a bit of a tremor. No one is better situated to look out for number one than you. Heeding your intuition means shunning those with murky motives. Follow a pleasure-seeker to a place of glee. A novelty item tickles your funny bone."}, {"response": 87, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (14:48)", "body": "Gemini, 19 Feb. The Sun is in Pisces and the Moon is in Aries. Don't dash off and do something today just because of a friend's suggestion. Better check and make sure that's what your client or your boss wants. What your friend thinks is appropriate might be completely different. Unless your friend is paying your salary, his or her opinion is, well, an opinion. Sorry, but that's all it amounts to. You can do projects like that on your own time, but if you're on company time, better check and make sure you're on the right track before you race off in a new direction. The odds are better you'll be asked to do something you've done before. Even if that seems confining, if that's how you pay the rent, that's what you ought to be doing. what? now's NOT a good time to give up my retirement paycheck for a job at wally world?"}, {"response": 88, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (23:22)", "body": "that implies that there is a good time for that..."}, {"response": 89, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Feb 23, 1999 (10:51)", "body": "(Still LOL at wer saying \"Maine\"...)"}, {"response": 90, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:27)", "body": "at least someone currently finds me useful..."}, {"response": 91, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:48)", "body": "Cancer's for TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23 A colleague who commands considerable respect admires your work ethic and wants to see you succeed. A great undertaking requires all the help you can get. Seek advice to nourish egos and expand your team. A little finesse and subtle leverage return positive energy and momentum. Champion change while you alternately entertain friends and exchange issues."}, {"response": 92, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (08:26)", "body": "Gemini, Feb 24 (now this is indeed sad) \" \" and that's about the extent of infoseek's horoscope for gemini's today."}, {"response": 93, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:27)", "body": "at least it's not bad! (maybe it was abducted by aliens...)"}, {"response": 94, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:29)", "body": "Cancer's for WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24 Eureka! A jackpot of good karma is at the other end of your rainbow of sublime kindness. You share in someone else's fair fortune, and you're also the beneficiary of returned favors. An emotional upheaval may diminish your productivity at work. Be professional, especially if you've made the mistake of mixing career and romance. You can save face despite a disgrace."}, {"response": 95, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:29)", "body": "and for you, Wolf, Gemini's for WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24 The influence of a friend with a heart of gold puts you in touch with your better instincts through charitable activities. Good deeds lead you to good people and luck. A partner who is riding an emotional roller coaster needs some peace and tranquility. Don't reflect any agitation you may encounter. Instead, set an example for equanimity."}, {"response": 96, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (20:04)", "body": "oh, that can't be mine, it's implying i have friends.....*grin*"}, {"response": 97, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (21:26)", "body": "mine do that to me sometimes, too!"}, {"response": 98, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (17:02)", "body": "well, good thing all of us with no friends hang out here together *smile*"}, {"response": 99, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (17:42)", "body": "something like that..."}, {"response": 100, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (17:31)", "body": "gemini: 26 feb 99 The Sun is in Pisces and the Moon is in Cancer. Today could turn out to be a challenge, not just for you, but for everybody. It looks like it starts out with a breakdown in communication. Somebody says one thing, but other person hears something completely different. This is not all that unusual, actually. It happens all the time. But today, you might be amazed to see how big a spread there can be between what was said and what was heard. Keep that in mind if you're giving any kind of instructions or orde s. You might even want to have people repeat back to you what they heard, so you can put in the correction earlier rather than having to deal with the messes later. repeat after me....."}, {"response": 101, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (23:12)", "body": "Cancer's for WEEKEND OF FEBRUARY 27 Follow an enchanting friend to a gathering despite your intolerance for small talk. If anyone there can stimulate your intellect, you'll find that person. Your social grace may remind an inattentive mate that you've got other options. Eviscerate your regret for a missed opportunity by pursuing it. Overspending could create another headache. Prevent additional stress."}, {"response": 102, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Mar 1, 1999 (19:07)", "body": "Gemini, 1 Mar 99 You may not know if you're coming or going today. And if you don't set priorities early, you're almost certain to be doing the one when you should be doing the other. Everybody's got an opinion about how things should be done. You can listen, but make your own choices. the first part was true. this day flew by. oh, and now that i read more, the whole thing was true. i felt like i was being pulled in too many directions and got a ton of advice on how to lose weight."}, {"response": 103, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 1, 1999 (21:05)", "body": "cancer's for MONDAY, MARCH 1 Plan an exotic excursion with a loved one. A luxury cruise or a Mediterranean vacation would give you plenty to look forward to, though it's more important to repair to a place of peace and privacy. A control freak may want you to perform a task in a particular way\ufffd-- even though it's not what works best for you. Instead of arguing, agree; then do your own thing. could've used the peace and privacy, but the only control freak around me today was me..."}, {"response": 104, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Mar 2, 1999 (09:29)", "body": "*laugh*"}, {"response": 105, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 2, 1999 (18:15)", "body": "Gemini: 2 Mar 99 Choose a leader who's got the objective clearly in mind. You'll not only be more successful, you'll make your life a lot easier. Your best choice is one who consistently says what you want to hear, and does what he or she says. If you know somebody like that, give this person your support. i know no one like that....guess i'm screwed!"}, {"response": 106, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar 2, 1999 (19:39)", "body": "then get yo'self to the proper conference! cancer's for TUESDAY, MARCH 2 Draw up a list of small tasks that, when completed, will make you feel on top of the world. Entertaining at home may be burdensome right now, but you will love the shine that hosting gives you\ufffd-- not to mention the afterglow. You'll have more romantic opportunities than usual, so you can afford to be extraordinarily selective. But don't dismiss prospects because of cosmetic flaws; get to know them before ruling them out. ...?!?!?..."}, {"response": 107, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Mar 3, 1999 (18:03)", "body": "cancer's for WEDNESDAY, MARCH 3 This may be the day to seek an exclusive arrangement if it's not premature. Sensitivity to past complaints of being too controlling may discourage you, but if love is rocking and rolling, it's time to take it to the next level. Emotional turmoil reflects growing pains. The key to enjoying adversity is to recognize its humanizing lessons. oh, bother....."}, {"response": 108, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 4, 1999 (19:41)", "body": "cancer's for THURSDAY, MARCH 4 Memos bring more work, but you're prepared to do it all and to do it well, because you're the taskmaster from heaven. An apprentice needs tutelage, and your eminent efficiency makes you the obvious role model. Just try to be patient. Hold the line against depression by getting out of the house. Shun electronic creature comforts to explore friendship and romance. yeah, right..."}, {"response": 109, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 4, 1999 (20:04)", "body": "Gemini, 4 Mar 99 You are looking very good today, and most likely making a great impression. But again, that could lead to trouble. Looks like everybody wants your time and attention. Instead of picking A or B, a third option that shows up today could be your best choice. yeah right. i have no options. the more you do, the more they give you to do. i doubt impressions of the good kind are being made as it seems i don't have enough to keep myself occupied as it is...."}, {"response": 110, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (09:31)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22) Week of March 4, 1999 If you were a cow, it would be prime time to move on to new grazing lands. If you were a monogamy buff, you'd now have temporary permission to let your eyes wander far and wide to find out what you're missing--and what you're not. If you were a journalist, it'd be a perfect moment to stop forcing the raging ambiguity of real life into neatly packaged news-bites. If you were an immortal god-like being who had impulsively taken on a human form as an experiment only to have forgotten your origins, you'd be on the verge of remembering the truth."}, {"response": 111, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (15:18)", "body": "*laugh*"}, {"response": 112, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (23:37)", "body": "cancer's for WEEKEND OF MARCH 6 Be careful not to overextend your helping hand. Reach deep into your heart but not into your pocket, since a troubled soul may need managed care more than money. A lazy, solitary Sunday may provide too much time to fret over woes. Use it instead to discover the heart and mind of a lover. Intimacy is only an embrace away. no comment 'cept, \"ain't gonna happen\"..."}, {"response": 113, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 6, 1999 (15:38)", "body": "Infoseek Gemini, 6 Mar 99 Conditions are perfect for working with a team on a big project. Know anybody who's putting up a barn? Doesn't look like you'll make much money this weekend, but the contacts and the good impression you can make will be more valuable. Put on a good show - you're being watched! sounds like an \"x file\" to me...."}, {"response": 114, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (16:09)", "body": "look everyone, Stacey is writing my horoscopes now! Cancer's for THURSDAY, MARCH 11 You're inclined to reminisce, perhaps because the past seems like a better place. A change of circumstance (and possibly, venue) is overdue. Relocation may sound dreadful because you feel locked in by possessions and partnerships, but agitate the status quo and see what shakes out. Life is too short not to move forward."}, {"response": 115, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "woo woo! it's my day job..."}, {"response": 116, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (16:29)", "body": "Ah..."}, {"response": 117, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (16:39)", "body": "well... when I'm not working this one! so... gonna take the advice?"}, {"response": 118, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (17:07)", "body": "*shrug*"}, {"response": 119, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (23:15)", "body": "cancer's for TUESDAY, MARCH 16 The workday may wear you down enough to make you want to spend the night with sitcoms. But why watch alone? TV land isn't such a waste when you've got a viewing mate. Your willingness to follow the evidence to the truth may prompt an emotional trauma, but it will liberate you in the long run. Reconnect with old friends for a new beginning."}, {"response": 120, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (20:43)", "body": ""}, {"response": 121, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (23:39)", "body": "Cancer's for FRIDAY, MARCH 19 You and some old friends will relive good memories and plan for a festive weekend. Happy hour may extend into three, your lucky number. Not doing well with love? It may be due to neglect. Assure a partner that you'll compensate for your absenteeism with special plans for tomorrow or Sunday."}, {"response": 122, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (22:45)", "body": "Cancer's George horoscope for the month of March (which, of course, is now over and I apparently missed the whole thing...) Mid-month heralds, \"Onward to a more dynamic participation in life.\" More than \"success,\" art is now at the core of your life. This generates enthusiasm, which provides a much better life fuel than bitterness. Emodying your music, spinning your pots, and dancing your paintings will make you wealthy. Then creative expression gives rise to happy ambition."}, {"response": 123, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (06:11)", "body": "\"Spinning your pots\" - are you a Cancer? Will you stick to cooking?"}, {"response": 124, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (13:24)", "body": "Eternal questions, Alexander... (yes, I be a Cancerian (well, amongst other things...))"}, {"response": 125, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (13:45)", "body": "So, do you also do lobsters and crabs? Or do you avoid the totem thing?"}, {"response": 126, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (14:44)", "body": "contrary to popular belief and some published reports, I have never had sex with any inhabitant (former or current) of the sea..."}, {"response": 127, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (15:03)", "body": "Oh, excuse my English! I was trying to ask \"Kind Sir, do you prepare Frutti di Mare of the Cancer kin, or do you respect your totem and exempt is from being source of culinary exaltation?\" I just didn't feel like typing so much."}, {"response": 128, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:14)", "body": "understood...and no, I cook what I'm told/requested..."}, {"response": 129, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (23:02)", "body": "I personally refuse to eat scorpions. It would practically be cannibalism, after all."}, {"response": 130, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (08:28)", "body": "But would you prepare any, say, for Wer?"}, {"response": 131, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (00:15)", "body": "I'm afraid that would conflict with my beliefs and my credo in general."}, {"response": 132, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (04:52)", "body": "Wow, what a sweet thing to say! Bet it would make our fave Wer blush and giggle like a texan school girl in intermediate! \"Guess what, y'all, and then she said I'd conflict with her beliefs and her credo in general! Far out, dude!\" ;=}"}, {"response": 133, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "Ha-ha! I never really pictured Wer as a \"Far out, dude!\" kind of guy. Sounds more like surfer than bluegrass. Well, Wer, am I right?"}, {"response": 134, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (23:29)", "body": "for the most part..."}, {"response": 135, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (09:54)", "body": "I've got WER classified as the reluctant intellectual with a deep, dark romantic side..."}, {"response": 136, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (10:19)", "body": "Deep dark, he'd agree to right away, I bet. Some other stuff, too, some not. But Wer, how would you phrase this, if you were a Texan schoolgirl of intermediate level? Or a Freshman (haha!)?"}, {"response": 137, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (01:15)", "body": "instead of Far out, Dude, it would probably be more something along the lines of Can you believe that? It's just, so, creepy! Wanna go by the library after class? (only reluctant because I've been told one too many times to quit being so damned patronizing...well, that and the procrastination)"}, {"response": 138, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (06:57)", "body": "That and the WHAT?"}, {"response": 139, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (07:23)", "body": "(Oh, and I would, Wer, they have this rad old Devo record I don't have! I borrow it for a week every month...)"}, {"response": 140, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, May 16, 1999 (12:51)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22): Be careful not to overwork yourself to the point of exhaustion. If you get overloaded, there's no shame in seeking help from co-workers to finish a project. The task may be possible, but perhaps your approach is the wrong one. Disregard the negative voices in your head, and instead, listen to other people's ideas. Don't be afraid to start over. The finished product is what is important in the end. No one will remember the hours put in, so it might be advisable to do the best job you can in the shortest amount of time. Don't agonize."}, {"response": 141, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, May 16, 1999 (17:32)", "body": "What'd I say? What I say, man! Classic 80/20 rule meets team-players. Just what I say all the time..."}, {"response": 142, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, May 23, 1999 (13:50)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22): A good day to analyze your emotions. Honesty in a relationship stirs the dust in an exciting little breeze. Communication will also be clear and concise. Words are charged with subtle power. You have carte blanche access and don't need to be invited in by knocking at the door. Cancer enjoys the privilege of unlimited access to the people who are nearest and dearest. Show your appreciation while you're thinking of it. Start a kindhearted exchange and see what comes back to you."}, {"response": 143, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (08:17)", "body": "Well, do it!"}, {"response": 144, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 27, 1999 (13:44)", "body": "and this one's for my birthday... CANCER (June 21-July 22):Even well-meaning people can become a nuisance. If you are feeling annoyed, tell everyone to go away and shut the door quietly but firmly. Pampering yourself for a day might make all the difference. Little things will take you far. Stick with the simple and familiar as the world around you grows more complex. If you seem to learn slowly, it's only because you're getting a better grasp on the material. It's okay to retreat. Just because you choose not to participate doesn't mean that you're surrendering. Have the wisdom to steer clear of energy-draining matters that don't concern you."}, {"response": 145, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Jun 27, 1999 (20:15)", "body": "haapy birthday!!!!!!! err... happy I mean!"}, {"response": 146, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jun 28, 1999 (05:10)", "body": "I mean, too!"}, {"response": 147, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (05:26)", "body": "but we love you anyway!"}, {"response": 148, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 11, 1999 (10:44)", "body": "CANCER (June 21-July 22): Expect a few orderly, heartwarming days under the Cancer Moon. Your plate is full, but there's enough to share with everyone. Taking care of others brings you delight and satisfaction. Your home is neat as a pin, and you are busy fussing with pillow fluffing and home cooking. Making the time to repaint or redecorate will feel very fulfilling to you. You are at bat for someone who is very close to you, and your support and testimony makes all the difference. Family takes precedence over all else."}, {"response": 149, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jul 12, 1999 (14:48)", "body": "sounds like a good one..."}, {"response": 150, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jul 12, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "the problem is...a good one for what?"}, {"response": 151, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 13, 1999 (00:34)", "body": "Wolf and I are both Gemini. When was your day? Mine's the 31st of May"}, {"response": 152, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 13, 1999 (01:29)", "body": "and this was the 12th's... CANCER (June 21-July 22): Try not to be too fixed in your opinions, but look for other alternatives. Now is a good time for moneymaking activities. Intangibles have their place, but sometimes you need more than just ink on paper. There's no crime in being comfortable, but moderation is the soul of elegance. When attacked in jest, defend yourself with laughter. You may be laughing alone if the joke isn't obvious to anyone else. Your social life is enhanced when you respect unspoken boundaries. A small gesture of kindness can restore someone's faith in you."}, {"response": 153, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (08:42)", "body": "My 'scope and Ree's for aujordhui (any other Saggies in the crowd?) Sagittarius You may have some difficulty dealing with others today, Sagittarius, especially a boss or client. Whether or not he knows it, an authority figure is driving you crazy. Try to keep a level head even though inside you're steaming mad. Pay close attention to anything pertaining to finances. Don't rush into anything you aren't sure of. Read between the lines in legal or travel matters. Attention to detail is a must when dealing with contracts of any kind. At the end of the day, relax with a good book or rent a comedy. This is a good day to find something that makes you laugh long and hard. InfoSpace.com Horoscopes (my boss was super nice to me when we got to work this morning, then he took off . . . any suggestions for good comedies?)"}, {"response": 154, "author": "moulton", "date": "Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (11:23)", "body": "Almost any Woody Allen flick. :)"}, {"response": 155, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (20:01)", "body": "Now that evening is setting in and I've been to work unscathed (actually got a lot done), I built a bookcase wall in my house (14' long), shocked the pool (no moonlight dips tonight), I shall set forth in search of a repast and perhaps a comedy."}, {"response": 156, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (20:37)", "body": "My fav is \"Zelig\""}, {"response": 157, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (23:02)", "body": "repast?"}, {"response": 158, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (23:07)", "body": "The man needs a full tummy to take on Woody Allen!"}, {"response": 159, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (08:00)", "body": "Never made it to the movies, but the repast at Central Market in the outdoor cafe with music was very fine. It's morning and I just got done vacing the pool to waste and the waters clear and warm for a weekend of fun. I'm glad we have weekends!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (08:51)", "body": "weekends...*sigh*"}, {"response": 161, "author": "moulton", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (09:33)", "body": "Bon Dipetit!"}, {"response": 162, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (09:43)", "body": "buona fortuna!"}, {"response": 163, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (17:11)", "body": "Okole Maluna (bottoms up!)"}, {"response": 164, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jul 19, 1999 (17:41)", "body": "???? Yeeee-Haaaw!"}, {"response": 165, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "Sagittarius Your fire burns low today, but an ebb in energy doesn't have to slow down your rich internal life. If the company of others seems abrasive, spend a quite day completing solitary tasks at your desk and a quiet evening alone. If you don't live on your own, you can still get quality time with yourself. Take a long bath and go to bed early with a good book. Since you may not be of much use to anyone else, take some time to figure out what it all means. If you can get away, a leisurely drive or a short trip might be the answer. Sounds like a low key to me."}, {"response": 166, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Jul 22, 1999 (22:01)", "body": "Sounds like heaven!"}, {"response": 167, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (20:32)", "body": "Cancer: There's always a little period AFTER a Mercury retrograde that is, at best, a little unsettled. And guess what? You get to feel this one more so than other signs. Not that it has a lot to do with you, but it does. I was in El Paso once, having a cigar after a fine meal of barely charred dead cow parts, and I got this little glint in my eye. Slightly offbeat, slightly mischievous, slightly off center. It was the cigar, I'm sure. You're just like I was that night, only, your buzz from the cigar is going to feel like it lasts all month long. An extra cup of coffee, a mild soporific substance, a little up, a little down, and your head bursting with ideas. Try and pull all this together. I did what I do best in a situation like that, I went back to the motel and watched Xena on the cable TV. It's about all that was on. But there's more than reruns on your cable TV -- you can do a lot more with strange ideas floating through your cranium."}, {"response": 168, "author": "moulton", "date": "Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "Now if you had been wearing your Tony Lama boots... :)"}, {"response": 169, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (22:38)", "body": "was wearing my Justin Ropers, actually, when I posted that...not sure what the gentleman was wearing who wrote it... it's my August horoscope from http://www.astrofish.net/"}, {"response": 170, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (23:44)", "body": "Flavor: Just about any flavor will do, but junk food, or its all-natural equivalent, will get their attention quickest. Grocery store: Gemini is [are] ruled by Mercury. Mercury goes around the Sun every 88 days. Get the picture? Fast moving planet, and most Gemini's tend to be fast moving as well. Imagine a shopping cart with motorized wheels, like a skateboard with an outboard motor on it. The Gemini will flit through the store, looking at everything, but lingering no place in particular. Gemini\ufffds have some mighty strange eating habits. I knew Vegetarian Gemini once, truly a macrobiotic \"careful of what you eat, no animal products, nothing with a face\ufffd type. What made this person typically Gemini, was, in the heart of \"nuts and fruits\" (California), this particular Gemini would eat meat. Big, rare, chunks of cow, obviously under done. Now, take this information and go to the grocery store with your Gemini friend. They will look at everything. I mean, everything. Nothing is beyond their intellectual grasp. Music: Gemini's have a strange penchant for the classics. Just about every Gemini I know has some classical music in their collections. I wonder if they really have the attention span necessary to listen to a symphony all the way through, or if they really listen to all that opera. However, this classical stuff will be intermingled with some contemporary material as well. Something with a beat. Trying to narrow down a Gemini's sense of musical taste is a little difficult. However, an upbeat flute solo, or \"The flight of the Bumble Bee\" really evokes what a Gemini might be all about. Walmart after midnight: One word -- exhausting. A Gemini is \"hell-on-wheels\" when it comes to going into the super discount late night store. Nothing is safe. They will play with the toys in the children's department, they will take a quick spin through the clothes, maybe try on some shoes, ask questions of the poor late staff people, and keep on going. This place is less of a store and more of a playground. Of course, a Gemini frequently approaches life that way. Brick wall: Gemini is the original adaptable sign of the zodiac. They will tackle this brickwall with a certain zeal and commitment to making sure that the goal is realized, that the wall is breached. However, in typical Gemini fashion, a fixed obstacle that doesn't yield immediately to one of the 43 different efforts by the Gemini soon loses the Gemini's attention. They get bored and wander off in search of other adventures. Of course, they did try more routes to get around that wall than any other sign. One of us might pick up where the Gemini left off and find a good solution. Bait: Gemini: Jointed Minnow -- Nothing works better on the Gemini than a super-long, jointed-minnow. It's pretty much a top water lure, and the Gemini needs some flexibility. So a lure with some flexibility is needed to make the Gemini happy. But unlike the plastic jobs which are way too \"flexible,\" the jointed minnow lure is big enough to present the Gemini with a challenge, and it offers enough rigidity that the Gemini will surely stay hooked. Revenge: The easiest way to get revenge on a Gemini is to be boring. It drives a Gemini insane. Best of all, boring for a Gemini can happen in three minutes or less."}, {"response": 171, "author": "roarksmuse", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (00:44)", "body": "Hello everyone, I just joined, am a VIRGO, and want you, Marcia, to do one for me. It seems that people put their own horoscope for the day down. but, I know me, and think it may be interesting to see an interpretation from another soul. Is that possible?"}, {"response": 172, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (11:05)", "body": "OK, will do that. Then you must pop over to Geo and say something, please! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/Geo/all After all, you are into gardens, and that should fit into one of my topics!"}, {"response": 173, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (11:20)", "body": "First I need to know what sort of horoscope you want - the straight stuff or the off-the-wall stuff from astrofish? Then I will be more than happy to post Virgo for you."}, {"response": 174, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (01:00)", "body": "VIRGO Thursday, 29-Jul-1999 00:51:25 CDT You know, I've got to come up with some better musical allusions. I'm doing my best to stay with the younger set. I can't keep make references to music which really shows my age. Or movies that are long out dated and nothing more than a faded memory or a video cassette. So I won't talk about Jaws, or the theme song. However, Venus, who was supposed to be kind to you, has decided to take a minute vacation from her good ways, and stir up a little trouble for you. It's not bad. Well, it's not too bad. She's just doing a retrograde thing which means the romance thing needs to take a little bit of a breather right now. Of course, it's been a weird summer for love, anyway. Styles from long ago have risen from the dead, and with both Venus and Mercury in a tailspin, I would suggest that you have somebody who will appear at your doorstep this week, looking like they still need to be buried again. Imagine a week of \"Night of the Living Dead.\" http://www.astrofish.net/"}, {"response": 175, "author": "roarksmuse", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (04:43)", "body": "Cool. Whatever is fine. The last one you wrote, just above my response, is the type that I have in mind. I just looked at astrofish.com a little. I will get back to it (you see the time of night I work). and I promise to go to Geo. thanks"}, {"response": 176, "author": "roarksmuse", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (04:48)", "body": "Oh, Marcia.... Venus took a long vacation from me a long time ago. All is need now is to have a 'night of the living dead'. I'm the living dead in that department. ha ha ha"}, {"response": 177, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (10:59)", "body": "You cannot know how sorry I am about that...I will hunt up a better one for you for today or tomorrow as I have time. The long one about Gemini came from astrofish, but I could not find a long one for Virgo... Where do you live that your nights are later than mine - but perhaps you are wise and do not indulge in this at your place of employment. Since you have been to Geo (I've noted your posting but have not been there yet this early morning) you might know that I live in Hawaii."}, {"response": 178, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (15:00)", "body": "GEMINI The Twins may be at a crossroads this year, and you could benefit from some sound Astrological advice. Finding yourself ripe with romantic desires, you are more assertive in this department than you've been in a long while. Whatever (or whomever!) you want is yours, and you are riding on the wave of a very assertive, confident, and powerful spell. Getting what you want and being incredibly direct aren't generally common areas for you to excel in, so you are enjoying this time in the driver's seat. Other things to keep in mind this year include not stepping on everyone's fingers and toes on your climb to the top. Remember that it is the people beneath you who are holding up the pyramid, and to shun them brings you closer to your own failure. When planning travel throughout the year, try to maintain as much flexibility as you can. Itineraries may not go exactly to plan every time, and sometimes tangents and back roads can be the most exiting highlight of a trip. Stay in touch with your surroundings, and don't put too much of a burden on yourself. Remain open to odd suggestions and fleeting opportunities. Everything may not always go your way, but it is unlikely that you will get bored. Fluctuations may occur in your day-to-day cast of characters. There may be some great changes made in the roles of the people who are closest to you, either personally or professionally."}, {"response": 179, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (15:04)", "body": "Gemini May 21 - June 21 You may be forced to get along with someone new, or perhaps some long-standing ties will be severed. This is a period of new starts and fresh beginnings for everyone involved. Turning your focus inward and maintaining your own strengths and well-being will prepare you for these new adjustments. In January and February, your friends may become more of a liability than an asset. Other people are demanding more of your time and efforts than you feel comfortable giving. Take these requests in stride and make your feelings known, bluntly but kindly. Time will take care of some situations. Around this same time period you will be experiencing bliss in your career development or current employment status. A raise, a promotion, or increased benefits will fall into your favor. Pat yourself on the back! You deserve it. As the Planets shift around March through June, your perspective on the friends in your life will change. You're feeling more philanthropic in general, and the friends who were once dragging you down are now a great asset to you with their stellar advice and support to help you achieve your goals. Gemini May 21 - June 21 April will really be a time for you to shine, so The Twins had better make the most of it. People are listening to what you have to say, so choose your phrasing and your battles carefully. You are at the center of every social instance, and other people are stunned at your charm and your wit. In the game of life, you are winning, and your energy level is about as high as it can be. Partnerships fall center stage again around September and October. This time, everyone is working out a compromise that is comfortable for all those involved. Mutual growth, development and a stronger closeness are everyone's gifts for learning how to get along. In November and throughout the end of the year, you are riding the crest of love and appreciation for love and humanity. Spirits are high, and you are enjoying yourself and life's offerings immensely. Have a good time, and seize a moment or two to be thankful for the wonderful year and the turn of the new millennium. The year 1999 for Gemini from http://astrology.net/"}, {"response": 180, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (15:10)", "body": "http://4YourHoroscope.com/Weeklyvirgo.html WEEKLY _ VIRGO Expect to be charmed by someone new at work Monday. Lose the conservative bent on Tuesday: Follow that wild streak that's got you buzzing for excitement. By midweek, you look for new ways to handle routine life tasks. Seek a new way of going about your daily tasks -- Add some spice to your life! Remember that your recent inspiration for a little housecleaning doesn't necessarily mean that others are quite as eager to stir things up in their own lives. Try not to be overly harsh when asked for advice from others. 'Easy does it' should be your motto on Sunday."}, {"response": 181, "author": "roarksmuse", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (20:27)", "body": "that one fits! I do plan to do a little housework, differently and put some spice in my life and people do ask for advice. I look at horoscopes. however, where I look, they usually don't fit or are so vague to me. I live in Chicago and I'm usually up at night. (my days and nights have gotten turned around, but I am trying to reset my clock.) Currently, I do freelance editing or that sort or stuffy -- and writing. are you a geologist?"}, {"response": 182, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (21:13)", "body": "No, my son is. I would have been one but the math and I did not get along...so I married a University Professor and did research and editing for 25 years. It would help me to know if you are male or female...understanding your horoscope and all that. I have never had any use for them, actually. My background is science back three generations, so it is strange for me to do this. I put that Gemini stuff down because I am like so much of it...it was so funny!"}, {"response": 183, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (17:30)", "body": "gemini is really a lot of fun, but because we're restless, we can appear moody or superficial. and it's great to know another gemini because feelings don't get hurt when we crave some space! i know two pisces and all i can say about them is they have a strong selfish streak. i'm not saying they're terrible people (my mate is one)."}, {"response": 184, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (18:39)", "body": "Absolutely...I understand what you are saying. My SO and son are both Taurus. Heads so set in concrete you could build a structure on them...and an ex who is a Cancer. In interest of Harmony and Love and Peace, I shall say no more about that. *grin* but I am not wearing the Alexandrite for my ex!"}, {"response": 185, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (21:43)", "body": "of course not, it's for you!! my daughter is an aries and i get along beautifully with her. my son is the other gemini (jun 17) and sometimes, we but heads...i dunno..great great kid, though! both of 'em (my little babies growing up so darned fast *sniff*)"}, {"response": 186, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (22:22)", "body": "Oh Wolfie, I know...I know...*sniff*...but your Gemini will become a man, like my Taurus did and I adore him and he me...it is just a phase!"}, {"response": 187, "author": "roarksmuse", "date": "Sat, Jul 31, 1999 (00:51)", "body": "You know I got lost here somewhere. I guess I started talking over in the other topic and they all begin to run together for me. I am so sorry. My daughter is a Gemini, but I had tried for a Taurus (May 26). she has a lot of Tauras in her though -- the strong headed, tenatiousness, etc. You know, it is a shame, but because I tell myself she is more Taurus, I never found out about Geminis. Is that awful or what?"}, {"response": 188, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 31, 1999 (01:12)", "body": "go back a few postings and read about Gemini's.. I think it is 170 which has all the characteristics of Gemini people."}, {"response": 189, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 1, 1999 (18:26)", "body": "really need to get a hold of the birthday book. it goes into the different phases of each zodiac sign based on the day of your birth. the character traits are broken down even further. because your daughter is an early gemini, she'll show traits of taurus. the book is pretty big and i found it at sams. it has a blue cover with lots of bright celestial beings on the front (sun, moon, stars, etc.)"}, {"response": 190, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 3, 1999 (11:50)", "body": "ooh...a book..."}, {"response": 191, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 3, 1999 (11:53)", "body": "...a book with Celestial Seasonings on the cover - food for thought?"}, {"response": 192, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 3, 1999 (12:08)", "body": "something like that..."}, {"response": 193, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 3, 1999 (14:23)", "body": "*giggle*"}, {"response": 194, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:06)", "body": "I'm gonna check out your place again there, Marcia, I mustve missed this. I'm a Libra, cusp of Virgo, moon in Cancer, actually a double Libra. I never really paid too much attention to the predictive aspects of astrology but the descriptive are generally so right on the money, with an enormous number of people I've looked up. Anyway, what this means, sports fans, is that I have a bunch of Virgo and Cancer traits. So I read all three in the newspapers. Bound to find something hopeful..."}, {"response": 195, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (19:13)", "body": "Is there anything better (or is it worse?) than a double Gemini? That is what I am, and though I never had anything to do with this \"non-science\" topic in real life, it sometimes gets pretty close to what I am really like - more than I would like to admit, actually! Read the newspaper ones until you find the one you like and make it your own. That is the system under which I operate."}, {"response": 196, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (09:04)", "body": "Sagittarius Being part of a group means being part of its process. Your input is a valued resource when it comes to making a decision. Problems can be solved without involving members of the legal professions. Just because you take the intellectual high road doesn't make you a stick in the mud. Energize the masses with your brilliance. People who are stalled always appreciate a push to get them going. The Libra Moon brings out your extroverted side. Find a social whirl and leap into the center of the vortex. You never know who you might end up going around with."}, {"response": 197, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (11:18)", "body": "what's mine?!??! (ramming my head against Paul's leg...)"}, {"response": 198, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (12:00)", "body": "Is your sign doggie, ascendent kitty?"}, {"response": 199, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (14:31)", "body": "Ok, the czarina of woo hoo's scope: Aries September 21, 1999 Friendship and bonding with others is the keyword, Aries. Today you and your friends are the steel magnolias of the bunch; tough, beautiful, and unwilting. Show everyone else how it's done. Be sure to plan accordingly, though, or you may find yourself looking foolish. Even if you feel invincible, be sure to factor human weakness into your plans. If you've been putting off contacting someone you've lost touch with, today is the day to get on the phone or write a letter. This would be a perfect day to plan a reunion with friends you haven't seem for a long time."}, {"response": 200, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (15:04)", "body": "wow... wish I woulda had more notice... (THANKS Paul!)"}, {"response": 201, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (15:10)", "body": "There's still time!"}, {"response": 202, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (09:56)", "body": "OK Stacey and other Aries folks: September 23, 1999 Put your schedule aside and roll with the waves today, Aries. The Moon has entered into Pisces, which could cause some confusion for your Sun Sign. No matter how carefully you may have planned your day, something is likely to come along and change it all. Do not be surprised if you end up on a completely different course. This isn't a good day to try anything new, especially if you are unsure of what the outcome might be. Avoid conflicts with those close to you. Think before you speak, and take other people's feelings into consideration. Hang onto your temper."}, {"response": 203, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (12:15)", "body": "holdin' on to temper as I float down the river of life, going with the flow of course and bitin' my tongue... (how'm I doin?)"}, {"response": 204, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "Don't do it, Stacey!!! Stop it!!!"}, {"response": 205, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (14:41)", "body": "Woo WOO!!!!! Freedom... vindicated by another... YEEE HAW"}, {"response": 206, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (14:19)", "body": "ARIES (March 21-April 19): Stifle that impulse, Aries, unless you can direct it and transform it into constructive activity. Your emotions could be running high, so don't let them run away with you. Today is an excellent day to mend some family fences that may be in need of repair. The reason may be that famous culprit, money. Was it really worth arguing about? It wasn't, as you know now, so reach out, and show some generosity of spirit. You will sleep much easier, and hopefully share some bodily contact with your mate or partner. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You sign is noted for its perseverance, but today you may feel like letting down your guard about a resolution to rein in your spending. Turn this extravagant mood into giving special consideration to those you work with. You could be surrounded by some touchy tempers. If the cause is work overload, offer a helping hand. This evening is a time to kick back, relax, and treat yourself. If you've been on a diet, indulge a little. You can always catch up by cutting more calories another day. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Something or someone from your past could come back to haunt you today. Don't get spooked, and don't sweep the situation under the carpet. If there is a confrontation, use your excellent judgment to keep it as unemotional as possible. Partnered Geminis or those with steady romantic relationships may find that their mates need to talk about a job problem. Here, too, help your significant other see where he or she may be overreacting. You know about that, don't you? CANCER (June 21-July 22): You have so many odds and ends to deal with today that it could make you crazy if you don't approach it all with a plan. Make an agenda and stick with it. Your to do list could contain domestic chores as well. Don't give in to moodiness. It could make you nag at a mate and/or children. Just gently insist that they do their share. Cancerians tend to feel stress rather easily. By bedtime, your mood should have improved, and you will be able to sleep like a top. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You are such a leader that sometimes you don't know how to follow orders. On the job, you could have some additional responsibilities heaped on you today. Don't fight it, Leo. Just tackle it. While literal gambling may not be your problem, you are sometimes prone to take a flyer. Watch that impulse today, because what you see may not be what you get. Overconfidence could backfire on you now. Before you make a move, discuss it tonight with your mate or partner. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): One of your best traits, Virgo, is your analytical ability. Call on it today to gently pull apart the many threads of a possibly confusing situation. If you must correct someone in your professional or personal sphere, do it with compassion and empathy. Your nagging side could creep in on you and alienate someone. Virgos who are happily partnered should make special efforts not to disturb the domestic peace. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You may come up against that familiar conflict between love and duty today. You may be called on to put in extra hours. It is not a calamity, as you will see later on. A mate, live-in, or romantic partner will welcome you with open arms and be appreciative of your willingness to \"work hard for the money.\" He or she may even give you a special something with an \"I love you\" message written all over it. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You don't like to feel out of control, and your response sometimes is to become overly controlling. If you take that tack today, someone around you might rebel. You could discover just how much that person resents that type of behavior. If it is a mate or partner, reassure him or her that you know he or she is an adult and does not need you to play cop. Later today, emotional scenes will be forgotten, and you will enjoy the warmth and serenity of your own, personal \"safe harbor.\" SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Your workday should go pretty much as expected, but Sagittarians in romantic relationships could get a surprise this evening. Your partner may act or speak rather impulsively. No one should be more understanding of this than impulsive Sag. In some cases, this will move the relationship forward. That's a good thing, too, Sag, because that person seems to be made from the same mold as you. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): If you put too much emphasis on getting ahead today, Capricorn, you could find yourself not getting along too well with your main man or woman. After all, he or she wants to be at the top of your list of priorities. This evening, dip into that stash you've put aside and treat him or her to a super evening of dinner, wine, and all that good stuff that comes after, such as \"sexual dessert.\" AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Aquarians can be quite self-willed if they think their independence is threatened. Don't get your back up if there is some shifting around in the workplace that doesn't suit you. Your financial picture is bright, and wit"}, {"response": 207, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "I would love to drop out, but my \"financial picture\" is a disaster! Am I lucky, that I don't believe in this stuff?"}, {"response": 208, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "ARIES (March 21-April 19): Wherever you are or wherever you go today, variety is the keynote. On the job, this may be a blessing for you antsy Ariens. You may also be up for a change in your romantic life. Later today, when you and your main man or woman meet, you may look at him or her more critically than usual. Permanently partnered Ariens need not be overly concerned. Solo Ariens, however, may reassess their situations and decide that something is missing. You might prefer to have someone who is as swift on the uptake as you ar . If you have to let someone down, do it gently. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Today is one of those days when you know immediately what to do and how to do it. Consequently, you should be pleased with yourself. Higher-ups may take note and put an \"A+\" next to your performance evaluation. In addition to this good news, prepare to have an excellent and easy exchange with someone. Whether it's your regular guy or gal or someone new, expect a coming together of minds and hearts -- and possibly, when night falls, of bodies. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You may be in a rather foul mood today, Gemini. Though it is not usually your nature, you may behave rather temperamentally. For the sake of appearances, try to shake it off when you interact with others on the job. For the sake of your most important partnership, don't make any promises unless you are absolutely sure you can keep them. By the same token, don't let your partner propose a contract that he or she can't honor. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Today is a day when Cancerians may be asking themselves questions such as, \"What's it all about, really?\" or \"Is this all there is?\" Don't confuse yourself by digging too deep. Instead, take advantage of the good possibilities the day offers for relating to the most important person in your life. Your partner would be an excellent person to brainstorm with about some of your concerns. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You could wake up today and ask, \"Where's the party?\" We wish we could promise you one from dawn till dusk, but unfortunately you have many tasks to complete today, and they will keep you running in many different directions. Don't get frustrated, Leo. Instead, adjust to the situation. Later on, both you and your favorite person can party all you like. You'll probably be in a crowd of like-minded people when you do so. Enjoy, but don't overdo. Tomorrow is not only another day; it's a busy one. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): By day's end, you may be asking, \"Is there no rest for the weary?\" Yes, you really had to plug away today but don't feel that your efforts were not appreciated. A person in a position to influence your future had his or her eye on you. Tonight, retire to your own little nest, put your feet up, and enjoy some quiet time, with or without your partner. If you prefer to be solo, your partner will understand. Everyone needs time to wind down and your mate or live-in knows by now that Virgo can get especially u tight when stressed. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Librans have a special way to calm jittery nerves, which are likely during this hectic day. You are good at separating facts from feelings, however, so you are not apt to blame anyone. This evening is an excellent time to feed your soul with something beautiful. Try to work in a trip to a museum, if you can manage it. Perhaps you could listen to great music on that super sound system that's a Libra \"must have.\" Just space out and dream. If you feel like it, and your partner is receptive, share your dreams Even if they seem a bit fanciful to you, your partner may just say, \"Of course, why not?\" You are so talented that you could do anything. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): For some time now, more than a few Scorpios have been thinking about a change of place -- residential place, that is. Today you could happen upon some information that opens new doors, financially speaking. Your economic picture has not been bad, but now you see how to make it better. This evening, you and the person with whom you share living space should figure out just how much house (or apartment) you could afford. You may be surprised. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): If you are asking yourself, \"Why am I working so hard for so little compensation?\" the answer lies in Sag's need to be creative. Whatever position you hold, it is made sweeter by the opportunity to have your ideas listened to. Even if you don't always get the go-ahead to put them in action, at least you know you are making some kind of mark. This evening, you and your special person could bat around some ideas about your personal situation. You often need an anchor, and your partner fills that need. Don't resent practical suggestions. Just adapt your plans to them. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): This is a day when single Capricorns could meet a new person who is \"marriageable material,\" as they used to say. This person is interesting and easy to relate to. It's not \"tough sledding\" like it sometimes is. Ju"}, {"response": 209, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (09:15)", "body": "\"Romantic live\", he?"}, {"response": 210, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (11:34)", "body": "ARIES (March 21-April 19): Despite your day job, you are going to have to work pretty hard to keep your domestic arrangements from going off the track. It's just one of those days, and it may even start out with some sharp words. If you handle it in your deft, sure way, you could earn bragging rights with your mate or partner, who may not be able to cope. Don't, however, make the mistake of criticizing him or her. Enough good stuff is in the air to make you empathetic and able to spend a low-key but completely relaxing evening, whe her it's just with him or her, or among friends. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Sudden, unexpected events could keep you on your toes today, Taurus. One of them, perhaps an unexpected visit, could put you in touch with a new and exciting person who has something special to bring to the table. If the day's events throw you, you could restore your own harmony by cheerfully acquiescing to altered plans or arrangements. Later tonight, don't ask for any major concessions on the part of your mate or partner. Without meaning to, he or she could make a promise that can't be kept. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Great day in the morning, Gemini! You love variety, and today could bring so much of the \"new\" that you may feel mentally or emotionally overloaded. The cure is to stick with the known as far as possible. Put that new stuff in your pocket to mull over on a less exciting day. You or someone in your immediate surroundings could make a minor mistake. Don't blow up. Just cool down and stay away from pressure-filled social situations. Try to meditate and get in touch with your inner self. That way, you will en the day on a positive and even contented note. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Today is not a day to look back, because if you do, you may look back in anger. Instead, concentrate on the future, both your own and that of the people closest to you. Don't hold back your real feelings. It is important to tell others, in the calmest way possible, what you feel and why you feel that way. You may be surprised at the positive reception you get and at how much others are willing to concede to you. As is usual with Cancer, doing for others is the best thing you could do for yourself. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): This morning, brush that mane (or buzz cut, or whatever you wear) until it shines, Leo. You are going to get plenty of attention today. You love the spotlight, but don't hog it. Step aside and let others strut their stuff and do their thing. Your desire for independence may be strong, but remember that relationships are two-way streets. Your main man or woman may also be feeling the desire to be autonomous. With a generous heart and compassionate feelings, you two could reach a compromise that works for b th of you. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You have a magnetic sparkle today, Virgo. It's a great time to branch out into new activities, hobbies, or groups. A dynamic quality infuses everything you do today. Solo Virgos should keep on the lookout for interesting potential partners -- it's startup time. Partnered Virgos may find that domestic matters are in a bit of a muddle. Of course, that never stopped a true Virgo. Use your own \"radar\" to scope out the problem and solve it. By nightfall, all will be calm and serene. Resolve to not let things g t away from you again. You could persuade the most recalcitrant mate or partner to go along with your program. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Your sign sometimes plays it rather close to the vest, emotionally speaking. Don't let that tendency hold you back today. If you feel frustrated because you sense that your hands are tied, relax. That's not the reality, only your fantasy. Tell whoever you believe is restricting you -- boss, mate, or child, perhaps -- that you need more space, some room to spread your wings. Indulge a secret wish to start some kind of creative activity. A good start is to put your thoughts in a journal, and keep doing it e ery day. Encourage the man or woman who is your most important person to do so as well. Then you will have full emotional disclosure. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You have decisions, or one crucial decision, to make. Today you have a great opportunity to weigh both sides of the issue and come down firmly on one side or the other. Though you are great at swaying (manipulating?) people, do not play the heavy. Consider having a joint discussion with everyone whose interests are involved. It could resemble a group therapy session, with the result that all concerned end up in synch and in total agreement about what needs to be done. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Your sign is not fond of dramatic scenes, but you may find yourself involved in one today, at work or at home. If you bring your sense of humor to bear on the situation, you will do everyone a big favor. Sagittarians have a wonderful ability to get everyone to see how absurd many of life's so-called crises really are. Tonight put the ball in your partner's court and let him or h"}, {"response": 211, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (13:33)", "body": "My financial picture is bright? I have a romantic life and even have money left for vacation? CRAP! Aquarius Allday Horrorscope: Whatever professional life you have or think you have, it ain't no good in the eyes of everybody else. No matter how hard you try, that's just all it is: trying. Your financial picture: You spent all day looking, but couldn't see it. So in this respect, your finances are way cooler than your job. This evening, your partner may indicate that he or she is also feeling hemmed in. You could confidently think about either a move or a vacation. Your partner will welcome a re-patterning of the relationship into something more suitable for both of you, e.g. by adding some interesting unexpected things to your resume. Discuss how to get away from it all and put and end to it. If somebody tells you his or her love life sucks, try to hold back and don't beat the braggarts up! You know you could always get a comparable or better position; pure chance it didn't work out. Tip of the Day: Be careful when leaving your house! There's more folks like you out there, and then there also are Scorpios..."}, {"response": 212, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (13:34)", "body": "ARIES (March 21-April 19): You've been setting your sights high lately, Aries. Some Ariens are getting more education to further themselves. Try to maintain a cheerful attitude today when home or domestic responsibilities weigh rather heavily. Fortunately, your mind is sharp and your wits are keen, so dealing with it all comes easily. When it comes to those high aspirations, you will reach your goal in less time than you think. The best part is that your mate or partner is cheering you on. Just think what it would be like if he or he didn't see things the way you do. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Today, things are the way you like them, harmonious and relatively calm. You do, however, have to distinguish between taking a break and just plain goofing off, whether at work or at home. Many Taureans have embarked on home renovation or redecoration projects. Today, true inspiration could strike. You and your mate could see a way to make changes that are creative and positive, but not exorbitantly expensive. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You are a very social type, Gemini, and today you may find yourself getting involved with a new group, perhaps one that deals with matters in your own community. Your mind is also on romance. If you are single, you have just opened the way to meeting someone with whom you could form an interesting relationship. Married Geminis should involve their mates or partners in whatever new activities they get into now. \"Teamwork\" is another watchword for the day. This evening, you may have to adapt to the mood of our significant other. Don't worry, he or she will reward you for it. CANCER (June 21-July 22): A fresh burst of energy comes to you today, and it's a good thing, too. A work associate or a partner may be so overloaded that you are asked to pitch in and carry some of the burden. It may try your patience, but think of it as earning points that you can cash in at a later date. The more cheerfully you take things on, the more delightful your evening will be. You need a break, and your special person may suggest a night on the town. Enjoy. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You don't really feel like working today, do you? Fortunately, you are such an excellent organizer that you should be able to whip through what needs to be done in record time. Afterward, your time is your own. Perhaps you could spend it with an old pal. Leo enjoys the thrill of the hunt for something new and smashing to wear, and with a buddy to egg you on, it could be a most productive trip. This evening looks like an occasion to stay in and kick back. You and your main man or woman could reconnect afte the long workweek. You will probably agree on the program, as all looks harmonious on that front. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You could experience some kind of emotional upheaval today in your orderly life, Virgo. It could leave you feeling a bit anxious and insecure. Try to lay it at the door of someone who is acting in a rather erratic way. It's that person, not you, who should be worried. Later on, Virgos with partners should discuss with them what happened. What you need is an objective point of view, and then some real fun. Hang in at home with a great tape on the VCR. Then, let your partner comfort you in bed. You need the release. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You generally get what you want -- with charm and pleasantness, that is. If that doesn't work today, don't get frustrated, and above all, do not force the matter. Things will work out your way in due time. Because Librans are usually so willing to go along with others' wishes, it is easy to forget that Libra is a cardinal (forceful) sign. In your personal life, this will be an evening of harmonious and productive conversation with your one and only. Be your own sweet self, and you will end the week on an p note. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Have you forgotten that promise you made to yourself a while back about doing some serious travel? By now, most Scorpios should have been able to squirrel away enough cash to make that possible. Today is an excellent day and evening to dream about and plan to see some of those faraway places. If you are one of a twosome, take both of your druthers into account, though it looks as if total agreement is on your itinerary. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): You suspect that something is going on in the workplace, and you are dying to know the secret. If you are cheerful and cooperative with everyone, sooner or later it will slip out. You may be disappointed, however, because it has no impact on your situation, but at least your curiosity is satisfied. You should be more curious about how to make your money grow. Tonight is a good time to sit down with your one and only and talk about the assets you have and how you could make them greater. With expert advice it could be done. At all costs, steer clear of get-rich-quick schemes. They rarely pan out, as you may already know. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): If you are among those Capricorns who are a bit "}, {"response": 213, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (13:38)", "body": "Monthly Overview of Astrological conditions for October: Venus is a morning star, which is kind of a strange thing to call a planet of love and peace, but that's the old terms for you. And Mars is visible most of the evenings, popping up long after sunset. Mars moves from Sagittarius to Capricorn this month, and a Retrograde Jupiter slides backwards into Aries this month. So we've got Fire, Air, Earth and Water, all up yonder. Aries: This is part of that Lucky Streak I told you about a long time ago. I hoped you were paying attention then. It's like a little echo, though, it's not like it's a brilliant stroke of luck. It's not like it's the biggest streak that you're ever going to stumble into, but this month, Jupiter does slide back into your sign. And that's going to bring a few minor keys of luck. Not big wins, but something more like a haunting melody. There's this one singer who is classified as country by most, but his work is not really, strictly speaking, country or western. But it's not rock, either. Haunting melodies and lyric refrains mark his work. That's what this month is like, it's something that you can't quite give it a name, but it's refreshing and uplifting, for the most part. Of course, there are some blues overtones to it as well, but what's a good month without a few days when you feel blue? Besides, the rest of the month you'll be swaying in a positive way to those haunting strains that you can't quite place, but you do know that luck is back on your side. Taurus: It's been laughed at by the popular press and the general media of the times, but there was period when a bomb shelter was considered an important addition to one's backyard. In fact, we still use a similar structure here in Texas. It's alternately called a root cellar or a storm shelter, and it's a place to hide when the turbulent Texas weather spins up to full force. Now, the weather isn't going to be that odd, and the hurricane season should be over. But there is still a personal hurricane blustering in on your own space, something being whipped up by the heavens right now. This storm front looks like it's work related, at least to me, and it looks like the best thing you can do for most of the month is to hide out in that storm cellar. A little underground refuge might be the easiest way to weather out this month. Too bad we can't all join you down there for the duration of the month. I'm pretty sure a Taurus cellar is well-stocked with plenty of gourmet items. Gemini: Mars and Pluto are in Sagittarius for most of this month. Well, Pluto, he's there for a long time yet. But Mars does move on before too long. However, before anything is accomplished, you are going to find that the influence of these two planets is very similar. Both excite you. The problem with being a Gemini, though, is that you are already pretty excited. So these two planets are going to be pushing you to new heights of Gemini excitability. It's going to be interesting, one way or another. I'd start planning on some kind of wonderful Halloween celebration, complete with a good costume for yourself. Perhaps you should plan on frequent costume changes, as is befitting your mercurial nature, and try playing more than one role. I know you can do it this month. You've got that martial beat thumping in the back of your head, just like the beat coming from a passing low rider with the volume up a little too loud. Cancer: The sound of a small outboard motor, tooling across the lake is a special noise. And early in the morning, it's particularly reassuring, the wet air of the lake blasting in your nostrils, the air soft and damp, your hair blowing in the wind... it's a beautiful picture. Just once this month, as a good Cancer person, the moon is going to make you feel wonderful. And even if you're not actually motoring across the lake, you're going to find that it feels like you're doing this. You get that easy, breezy feeling once this month. Now, take that wonderful feeling, bottle it up and seal in a jar, good and tight. You're going to want to be able to refer back to the good days when the bad days come. I'm not promising that the whole month is good, but there's more that's good than bad. And on the days when the month just seems like it will never work out right, open up that jar of good feelings, and suddenly, you're swept away again, floating across the lake, that little motor pushing your boat along. Leo: Two words hit my mind right now, \"good month.\" The words actually sort of rattle around in my brain, knock a spare cobweb loose, and then go dashing out my left ear. But you get the idea. Most of this month is looking pretty darn good for you. It doesn't really involve any one particular area of you life, there's lots of wide open places where things are going to be good. It's been suggested that my brain is like those wide open spaces. There's just one little caution coming up, and that's about this whole Samhain thing. In plainer terms, it's called"}, {"response": 214, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (10:08)", "body": "Ok. So I'll go to the fields, waiting for the big pumpkin-spirit to arrive...?"}, {"response": 215, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (14:58)", "body": "Like Charly Brown?"}, {"response": 216, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (22:00)", "body": "More like Linus...?"}, {"response": 217, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (22:07)", "body": "http://www.astrofish.com GEMINI In traditional astrology, stuff that dates back before the Romantic Period in literature, you've got a busy week with a few business related deals pending. Sort of like negotiating with the bank to buy a new bass boat, a top of the line Skeeter to float you into the new millennium. Now, here at World Headquarters, we've done a little research with your chart, and we have to wonder about this old fashioned astrology. It looks like this is NOT the week to buy the bass boat. Rather, you can be concentrating on something a little bit better, like a particular person who has caught your eye. That's why the fishing metaphor, and bass boats are important this week, but it looks a lot like you are more interested in the salesman than the boat itself. Unfortunately, these passing influences make you wonder a little bit this week. While I like the idea of the new boat, I have to wonder whether you're really in need of it right now. Flirt with that sales clerk, and see what kind of deal you can work out, and I think you know what I mean. CANCER Saturday, 02-Oct-1999 22:06:32 CDT On several of my old business cards, my voice mail number [512/209-2200] is listed as \"Rodeo Voice Mail.\" The first level of confusion comes from folks who ask, \"What's Radio Voice Mail?\" It's Rodeo, not Radio. I always assume that folks can read. Might be a bad assumption. Might be a bad assumption for both of us this week, Cancer and Kramer. \"Rodeo Voice Mail\" means that you've got a few seconds to leave a message before you get bucked off. It's like that this week, you've got an important message, but you don't have a lot of time to deliver this information. So pay attention to the clock, and realize that 30 seconds is about all that your window of opportunity will afford you. Hey, it sure beats an 8-second ride, if you know what I mean. 8 Second Ride was last week's news."}, {"response": 218, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:08)", "body": "Mmh, I wonder if there are no new entries, because I commented to them or because I stopped commenting them....?????????????????????"}, {"response": 219, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:30)", "body": "One wonders indeed... though one, of course, doesn't believe in 'em, nor ever reads 'em... ;=}"}, {"response": 220, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (13:42)", "body": "I don't believe in horoscopes that's why I want to read them to make fun of them, You know? ;-] You old know-all!"}, {"response": 221, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (17:00)", "body": "Know-all yerself!"}, {"response": 222, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (20:20)", "body": "For my part, I do not believe them and they usually have an uncanny knack of hitting me right between the eyes. However, I have been talking to myself a lot on Spring lately, and there is just so much stuff I can look up on the web all by myself. I think Geo, History and a bunch of other stuff needs more of my time than this topic. Be my guest. Until the usual posters get back from Hiatus (it is a popular place lately) it will have to rely on someone else..."}, {"response": 223, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (23:19)", "body": "Here's some stuff I found on a website called \"The Celtic Heart.\" I had no idea that a Celtic astrology chart existed, but so it does and it's very interesting. I'm going to post it in sections, since it's quite long. BETH; Dec. 24-Jan. 21 Tree: Birch Symbol: White Stag Those born under the sign of Beth have a gift for creating amazing and wonderful things. The lunar influences surrounding this sign bestow abilities and talents for building things that last and are of great value. Beth people have tenacity, practicality, good judgement and patience. There is great charm here and success comes easily when self-criticism ceases. The Birch is flexible, steady, rooted in strength as it reaches toward the limitless sky. Beth is the first letter of the Ogham alphabet. The great Celtic stag carries the spirit of the first forest. His power brings connection with unseen possibilities. Stag energy is full with gentleness, loyalty, and courage. Honoring intuition brings success. LUIS; Jan. 22-Feb. 18 Tree: Rowan Symbol: Dragon Those who are born under the sign of the Celtic month Luis are blessed with quickness of mind, inspiration, and a gift for communication of all kinds. Rowan's legendary ability to absorb a bolt of lightning has made it a tree of inspiration and power. The mighty Rowan is a reminder that nature and the land have powers to inspire and guide you. Special care must be given to honor both the realms of practicality and inspiration. Dragon is a protector of the great Celtic treasure. The ancient Fire Drago keeps the secrets and visions of the bards. The great treasure of the Dragon is the magical wisdom of the Druids. The great Celtic Festival of Fire, Imbolc, is Feb. 2."}, {"response": 224, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (23:25)", "body": "Oooh Neat, Amy!!! Thanks!"}, {"response": 225, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (23:46)", "body": "NION; Feb. 19-Mar. 18 Tree: Ash Symbol: Merfolk The sign Nion brings gifts of understanding, intuition and empathy to those born under it. Many great bards, poets and magicians are associated with this lunar sign. Gwyddion, the greatest storyteller of ancient times, possessed all the magical gifts of Nion. The mighty ash brings inner strength, a peaceful spirit, and the ability to overcome all obstacles. Ash is one of the most sacred trees to the Celts. The Merfolk inhabit the seas, appearing to humans on rare occasions. Celtic legends tell of an ient times when the Celts lived in a mystical land beneath the waves. The Merfolk bring the gift of memory and vision to those born under the month of Nion. FEARN; Mar. 19-Apr. 15 Tree: Alder Symbol: Falcon Fearn is rich in mystic tradition. Boldness, independence, and dynamic action are all part of the character of those born under the sign Fearn. The legendary hero, Bran, is strongly associated with the red branch of the alder tree. The redness of the alder is a reminder that sometimes, intense spirit need to be tempered with thought. This is a time of year when baby animals are born and the world is renewed. Falcon flies over the land and surveys all that is new, all that is possible, and all that wi l be. Those born in the month of the ash share keen insight of the Falcon. The Celtic spring festival of the Vernal Equinox is on Mar. 21. SAILLE; Apr. 16-May 14 Tree: Willow Symbol: Sea Serpent Saille is a sign of Earth mysteries, psychic gifts, and healing. From earliest times, the willow has been a sacred tree. Willow's deep roots connect the Faery realm with the land of the Celts. People born under this sign often possess a gift for seeing what others may miss seeing. Saille people often have a long, clear memory. Willow trees are associated with Danu, Ceridwen, and the Druids. An ancient sea serpent swims to the remotest depths of the sea, and like the willow, brings hidden knowledge t the surface. Cirein Croin, the Scottish sea serpent of legend, is said to be the largest of all living creatures. May Day, the ancient Celtic celebration of Beltane, is May 1."}, {"response": 226, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (23:47)", "body": "Here's some stuff I found on a website called \"The Celtic Heart.\" I had no idea that a Celtic astrology chart existed, but so it does and it's very interesting. I'm going to post it in sections, since it's quite long. BETH; Dec. 24-Jan. 21 Tree: Birch Symbol: White Stag Those born under the sign of Beth have a gift for creating amazing and wonderful things. The lunar influences surrounding this sign bestow abilities and talents for building things that last and are of great value. Beth people have tenacity, practicality, good judgement and patience. There is great charm here and success comes easily when self-criticism ceases. The Birch is flexible, steady, rooted in strength as it reaches toward the limitless sky. Beth is the first letter of the Ogham alphabet. The great Celtic stag carries the spirit of the first forest. His power brings connection with unseen possibilities. Stag energy is full with gentleness, loyalty, and courage. Honoring intuition brings success. LUIS; Jan. 22-Feb. 18 Tree: Rowan Symbol: Dragon Those who are born under the sign of the Celtic month Luis are blessed with quickness of mind, inspiration, and a gift for communication of all kinds. Rowan's legendary ability to absorb a bolt of lightning has made it a tree of inspiration and power. The mighty Rowan is a reminder that nature and the land have powers to inspire and guide you. Special care must be given to honor both the realms of practicality and inspiration. Dragon is a protector of the great Celtic treasure. The ancient Fire Drago keeps the secrets and visions of the bards. The great treasure of the Dragon is the magical wisdom of the Druids. The great Celtic Festival of Fire, Imbolc, is Feb. 2."}, {"response": 227, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (23:56)", "body": "I dunno...that Apr 16 - May 14 is my son, and he is absolutely a brick when it comes to psychic things and healing arts - but he has done it for me when I lost it on a lava flow and thought I was gonna die...he took me aside, sat me down and talked to me till I gathered myself back togehther. Perhaps there IS something here!!!"}, {"response": 228, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (00:14)", "body": "UATH; May 15-June 12 Tree: Hawthorn Symbol: Chalice Those born under the sign of Uath are often able to charm those around them without effort. Talents are many for those born at this time of year including a flair for the dramatic and a strong sense of self. Uath favors actors, artists, dancers, and politicians. Skill at subtle negotiation and diplomacy are also common. Hawthorn stands quietly in strength and knowledge. The chalice of Celtic legend, the Grail cup, and Dagda's inexhaustible cauldron, are all symbols of the gifts that flow to those who are worthy. Chalices and cauldrons represent the ancient caves and wells of Ireland, from which all good things flow freely to those who honor the land. DUIR; June 13-Jul. 9 Tree: Oak Symbol: Horse Duir is the month of the great oak. It is from this tree that the Druids got their name. The word Druid means \"oak knowledge.\" People born under this sign have a natural affinity for religious or spiritual matters. Healers, artists, and visionaries are often born in Duir. The oak stands strong and wise as the Summer Solstice, the longest day of the year, passes on June 21. Those born in the month Duir who study and learn skills are capable of deep understanding. The horse is the great love of the Ce tic people. Tales of the strength, courage, beauty, and faithfulness of the horse fill Celtic legends. The horse's balance of strength and beauty is celebrated in Epona. TINNE; Jul. 10-Aug. 6 Tree: Holly Symbol: Lion The month of Tinne is a time of putting things in order. Those born under this sign have a special gift for figuring out difficult problems and puzzles. They are often people of great patience and kindness, who delight in mental games. Tinne people are often lucky. Tinne's plant is holly. Holly is favored in Celtic religious and festive celebrations. The holly's sharp leaves are a reminder to temper kindness with caution. The lion, like the cat, is a symbol of skill, intuition, strength, and agilit . The Irish say, \"Nature shines through the cat's eyes.\" The energy of the great cat balances the generous, giving nature of those born in the month of Tinne. The Celtic harvest festival Lugnasadh is celebrated on Aug. 1."}, {"response": 229, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (00:19)", "body": "Here I am in telnet and you have posted our birthdays...oh my...and others as well...gasp! very interesting...I shall email you shortly...as soon as I get back to windows!"}, {"response": 230, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (22:39)", "body": "COLL; Aug. 7-Sept. 2 Tree: Hazel Symbol: Salmon Coll is the month of Hazel, the Celtic \"Tree of Wisdom.\" People born in the month of Coll have a gift for intuition and great wisdom. They often make excellent scholars, poets, and scientists. Inner journeys are the key to unlocking the special gifts of Coll people. Hazel branches are used as divining rods to uncover earth's hidden springs. In Celtic legend, salmon ate the Nine Hazels of Wisdom and knew all things. A Druid told his servant, the boy Fionn MacCumaill, to cook the salmon, but not eat a bit of it. Fionn burned his finger when he poked the salmon and licked it to cool the burn. At that moment, all knowledge left the salmon and entered Fionn. MUIN; Sept. 3-Sept. 30 Tree: Vine Symbol: Swan Muin heralds a time of full ripening and pleasures of the senses. Those born in the month of Muin are expressive and feel emotions strongly. Often they are engaged in lifelong pursuits that benefit others. A love of beauty, home, and companionship are often major influence on decisions. Vine twists and spirals through the life of Muin people, connecting all things. Close lifelong friendships are common for people born under this sign. Swan stories are an important part of Celtic tradition. For gene ations, Celtic bards tell many a tale of those who took the form of graceful swans. This creature is closely connected with enchantment and the Faery realm. Autumnal Equinox is celebrated on Sept. 23."}, {"response": 231, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (17:22)", "body": "hey... what astrological genius has fallen down on the job???? Hey baby... what's my sign say??"}, {"response": 232, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (18:49)", "body": "I think most interest in horrorscopes devolved into ParaSpring or just got shuffled aside. Anyone know why this Gemini has bronchitis? What's your sign, Oh Great Pasquina?"}, {"response": 233, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (08:55)", "body": "Sagittarius What seems like a good idea to you makes no sense to someone else. Creativity can get you around obstacles, but it can also create them. You get your way with a convincing explanation, but people believe you because of the positive aura you project today. By having fun with work projects that are usually a bore, you get a lot more done than others around you. Keep that positive feeling going after work, and someone will be instinctively drawn to you in a romantic way. Right on! On the money today."}, {"response": 234, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (08:59)", "body": "And now, Infospace gives you Aries: You are inspired to take the initiative -- in fact, you are compelled. Self-fulfilling prophecies begin and end with you. Your destiny rests lightly in your hands. The best way to steer things in a positive direction is to stop planning and start doing. Action is your best friend today. Don't sit around and wait for others to take the lead. Be a pioneer and others will follow in your direction. Propose an idea at work -- your enthusiasm will help in all your endeavors. Gemini: Socializing with coworkers may be on the agenda for today or tonight, and the results should be promising. Let your hair down and have a good time -- anything is possible! You'll find that opening up to other people today will reap rewards for you. By giving a bit of yourself, others will find it easier to open up to you. You will discover things about your coworkers you never expected. That will be all it takes to turn a coworker into a friend. Cancer: You need to think creatively to get around an obstacle that will not be moved. Confrontation is more than useless at this point. Ignoring the problem or waiting it out might be options for the very patient. Time has a tendency to shed new light on these situations, so try to keep your emotions in check and deal with this tomorrow when the Moon moves into Taurus. Don't go to your boss with problems today -- just complain about them after work and sleep it off. You'll feel much better tomorrow. What other signs do folks have that may not be covered by these four?"}, {"response": 235, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (09:05)", "body": "Woo Woo! I'm a pioneer!"}, {"response": 236, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (09:06)", "body": "So what self fulfilling prophecies are you going to make?"}, {"response": 237, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:38)", "body": "\"You gonna be rich or else, kid!\""}, {"response": 238, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (13:40)", "body": "And up to now, it really worked or else, too!"}, {"response": 239, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (14:50)", "body": "Is there more stress on \"really worked\" or \"or else\"???"}, {"response": 240, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (18:11)", "body": "Too much stress to think about it seriously, I'm afraid. ;=}"}, {"response": 241, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (22:47)", "body": "Oh, Alexander! *H u g s*, I am so sorry!"}, {"response": 242, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (11:22)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You find yourself looking forward to the weekend with a great deal of expectation as well you should. An old love will be back in town today and with a very few words you convince this person to stick around...at least until the wedding bells ring for you two. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Woeking or constantly studing all the time can get you down before you know it. This would be a good weekend to plan some exciting adventures with good friends. Today would be excellent for rounding them up and mak- ing your plans. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Spring break is here, almost; it is time to get your travel plans arrainged. Make it a safe week and try to keep your activities down to a mild roar so you will be able to relax and get yourself prepared for the rest of the year. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Being the loving nurturing person that you are, both female and male, you find that people who need this type of understanding is drawn to you today and since this is what you like to do, you are prefectly comfort- able in raising their spirits and self-confidence. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Negative Leo may try to ease in today but you soon become aware of your actions and your attitude and put a quick stop to it. Positive Leo is a joy to behold as he/she cannot accomplish enough to suit them and always makes someone happy. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may be feeling a little critical today about the accomplishments of someone close to you but when you stop and think about it, that person has done quite a job considering the lack of skills he/she had to work woth. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your loving disposition will come to the fore today when you get a fright about a loved ones health sit- uation and life expectancy. Not to worry though as this person has had the best of care and will be very likely to pull through. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) After so many emotional ups and downs this week you will find today to be unexpectedly relaxing and calm. Things will go off exactly as you have them planned and higher ups will see eye to eye with you on busi- ness situations. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Back home from the hospital may seem strange for you at first as the new rules you have to follow are so alien to you. Take heart, you will soon be your old self again and wonder how you could ever have been that sick in the first place. ;-} CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) The weekend coming up will be a good one for getting the nose off the business grindstone and invest some of your time with those who love and need you. Plan some activities with the family and try not to think of work pending at the office. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may be in your helpful Hanna mode today but be very sure that the person you plan on helping actual- ly wants your help enough to ask for it or you could suffer a rebuff for you efforts. Everyone who needs help doesn't always appreciate it. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Take off for a warm spot this weekend so the fishes can enjoy some water sports and fun. You need the relaxation of doing nothing but what you want to do for a few days. That will bring you out of the winter depressions and back into the sunshine."}, {"response": 243, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (17:34)", "body": "Not!"}, {"response": 244, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (17:47)", "body": "hey, that's what i was gonna say!!"}, {"response": 245, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:15)", "body": "Should I unsubscribe and let you post it? I am always concerned as you have a job and family which needs you whereas I just have The Spring =) It's up to you, entirely since this is your kuleana, you know!"}, {"response": 246, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:16)", "body": "who are you talking to? (terry, i would guess)"}, {"response": 247, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:22)", "body": "Nope - Wolfie! I thought you were going to post the same horoscope I posted. Did I misinterpret again?"}, {"response": 248, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:25)", "body": "Does Terry really read this stuff? Nah! Lofty individual that he is, he does not have the time nor the inclination to peruse the mortal ramblings of the mortals with whom he shares his bandwidth *smiling naughtily*"}, {"response": 249, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:31)", "body": "sorry *grin* no, i just figured we'd leave it in paraspring."}, {"response": 250, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:38)", "body": "I read it!"}, {"response": 251, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:57)", "body": "oooh! (I knew you would - on your palm pilot? And are you on break from hammering and such? Does the boss know *wink*)"}, {"response": 252, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (12:28)", "body": "YOUR DAILY HOROSCOPE - Saturday, March 11, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A chance encounter with an attractive person from long ago has the potential to completely change your thinking, thus your path through life. Be sure that you have all your work caught up as you will not want to waste a minute of your weekend on such mundane things. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Gather up your love and make an adventure out of a short trip to the mountains or the seashore. Kick back and enjoy life today since you are well deserving after such a stren- uous week on the job. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you break in your quite mode and it will take a little doing for you to loosen up and enjoy yourself. A loved one is ready to say yes and now the rest is up to you, time to put aside your wishy washy thinking and come right to the point. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Love comes knocking on your door today but do not be in too big a hurry to jump into an affair before all the facts are in...some people can be trusted, others can't. You might be better off in keeping this one as a friend only or throwing him back into the sea. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) The roaring lion may make the decision to get roaring drunk today but don't! That could be the worst decision of your life and cost more than you can even imagine at this point in time. Stay sober and alert today if you would keep you and yours safe from harm. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Getting a good early laugh by land line from a loved one starts your day off on a good note that you carry with you all day long. Employees notice your upbeat attitude and adjust theirs subconsciously, thus making for a good day for all. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A sweet disposition is all that will win the new interest over to your way of thinking today...love. People will be looking to you today for help and advice and you give these in such a generous manner that your popularity in- creases by a hundred fold. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Demanding your own way is not the way to get it from this particularly stubborn person you are wedded too. Sugar catches more flies than vinegar and this is a good time to pour some of it on. Be sure you don't say things you don't mean as this person will know. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A change of scenery today could go far in changing your mood and outlook on life in general. Try the seashore and if that is too far away, the mountains would make a good choice. Even a walk down a quiet country road can help out. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) An ill child shows all the signs of keeping you cooped up for the day and the weekend. Don't worry, children can improve overnight and you may yet get a chance to do some of the things you have been planning, such as your yard preparations. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) If the weather permits, this would be a good day for taking a nice leisurely walk and just soaking up the sunshine. Try not to let your mind dwell on anything unpleasant today as you recharge your batteries and get prepared for the weekend to come. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A good friend gives you some excellent advice but you find it hard to take as it is not what you really want to do. the choice is yours; do what you want to do or do the thing that will be fair to everyone involved."}, {"response": 253, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (11:20)", "body": "(Yesterday's was a no-show...sorry!) Horoscope for March 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) One of those rare, storm free days when you have all the emotions under control and everything seems to run smooth for you. You will find it easy today to convince others of things that they have not previously shared your viewpoint on. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your credit card has come through just in time for you to catch some sprintime bargains. Be careful not to max out the card right away. If you do fill it up now, it becomes just another monthly debt. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you get the ok from your partner to go ahead and make the necessary changes you knew would be needed shortly and you already had planned out and ready. This would not be a good day to take any risks, either small or large, as every- thing holds the possibility of loss today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A domestic dispute has you ready to walk away but you lean more in a practical manner in making up with your spouse. Love is in your heart and down to earth basics is in your mind; express the love and not the mind if you hope to win this one. A raise, promotion, or bonus could be yours on this day. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Daydreaming at work is not recommended today as it could possibly cause you to have a small accident if you work around any type of machinery, by becoming absent minded at the wrong time. Creative, and inspired ideas are yours today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This is a good day for shopping but not a good day at all for gambling pursuits as there could be losses in risk tak- ing for you. Domestic activity should be of great interest to you tonight as your spouse may have some wonderful news. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) If you are interested in the arts or have anything to do with the printed page, this appears to be your day for inspiration, and even contracts as your ability to express yourself is high today. Talking with financial managers and partners are also favored. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today take everything you hear with a grain of salt, (take a show me attitude), as there is a high pro- bability of deception in your affairs now. This is also not a good day to put any credence into rumors you may hear about anything. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Dealings with the public is favored today as your charisma is strong, and you will have a greater response to your ideas than you have had in the past. You will have a small domestic dispute in the evening after a smooth day at work. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your mind will be centered on study or research today and you find you have a breakthrough even if it is only an inspired form of work, or method of research, that will get you to finished faster. Talking with leaders and managers will be gainful for you today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A good friend has been keeping an eye on your ongoing project, and he or she has some definite ideas that he/she wants to share with you. Take a few minutes of your valuable time to listen to this person, it will pay off to heed the advice. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) An unexpected, guest shows up out of nowhere for the week and you find yourself pressed for time but you do not let this trouble you as you make room. Children may feel out of sorts and a little mean today but you deal admirably with them."}, {"response": 254, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (11:36)", "body": "Horoscope for March 14 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Don't be too hard on yourself today as others don't blame you near as much as you blame you. Walking around feeling depressed is just not your style so you soon snap out of it as you fight your way to the winners circle. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) So, you are a little eccentric today but you have your own ideas about how things should be done. Your ideas are not those of others as you march to your own drummer not theirs. Pay no attention to the slumbering herd as you are among the wide awake inventors of the future. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) When it is called for Gemini can just drop everything and walk away, and today you elect to leave certain things behind no matter how much you care about them, and in the long run you will see that this is the smartest move you have ever made. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Getting all your accounts up to date is of importance to you now, to let you know where you stand and whether or not it would be wise to rock the boat by changing a few things. If your business has grown sufficiently it would be a good idea to invest in a year around accountant. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Working as a team may be appealing to you as but in order for your team to function well you must exercise those leadership abilities that you are so well known for. Don't let someone get you down today as there is always one around. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Unsettling news today may not be good for letting you know where you stand on certain issues, the situation is too iffy to do any real evaluation on it. Friends understand your feelings and try to help you out, this is something best handled with your own judgment. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) There is a feeling of expectation in the air at due to a coming event, so if you hang around the water cooler today try to keep an ear open and you will be surprised at the helpful information that you may be able to pick up in this way. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This is not a good day to bet on anything or even buy lottery tickets, in fact it is a day best spent in bed. Not that anything awful seems slated to happen to you in the duration of your day, but I would say that today you will fall under 'Murphy's law'. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your inner strength sees you through a trying day with most of the hurt on the inside and not showing to the world. You will soon see the right way to go to the heart of the matter and gain the victory. Follow your psychic faculties to the limit. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A wonderful day for you just overflowing with love and happiness as your true love returns with love and for- giveness in his or her heart. A resolution to change your ways will keep you steadfast and true from here on out as you now know who you want. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today you will wear a happy grin all day long. It is just one of those days where everything seems to go right and you couldn't lose if you tried. This could be a good day to try your hand at a few lottery tickets; just don't go overboard. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A sensitive situation has you involved with an ex and exploring this problem together seems strange. It is perfectly natural to feel an attraction for this person as at one time you were madly in love and you have the children to prove it; best not to pursue this"}, {"response": 255, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (19:30)", "body": "what am i gonna drop and leave behind? (gemini)......have i done it and will know tomorrow? oh, wait! i know, my stitches were removed!!!"}, {"response": 256, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (21:23)", "body": "For March 15th ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Using your natural abilities will help you in your negotiations early today. Unexpected surprises from the strangest areas could be yours so don't be surprised at anything. Being a progressive thinker in your business world serves you well all day. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Keep up a happy front today even if your heart is not in the mood for it. Sometimes we can even fool ourselves long enough to get through a trying situation. Children are wonderful today and you are so proud of them. Think up a good reward. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today is a hectic for you as you can barely catch your breath between chores. Don't let yourself get overtired, take a break before you are so exhausted that you require it. Domestic problems may be over tonight as you come up with an inspired compromise. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A good day for everything connected with your job, everything from finding a new job to obtaining a raise where you are. Be careful that you do not let a coworker draw you into a personal quarrel, always try to sray out of the middle. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) No one will be able to win at the one-up-man-ship game over you today as you have the ability that your esp gives you to see right to the center and beyond on all issues. Trust your instincts today, they are right on track. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) An important day coming up for you today and it will be exceptionally good in the original ideas department. Your ideas are incisive and cutting edge today and it seems you can do no wrong! Enjoy yourself as days like this are rare! LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A particularly irritating family matter may be bothering you and you almost let it interfere with your work. Luckily you catch your attitude in time and change it. Keep smiling until you finish out the day, then you can give your problem mental house room. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) In financial dealings today you are a canny thinker and you are one step ahead in the negotiations. A major move may be on your mind today and there is not enough hours in the day to take care of everything yourself; why not delegate the jobs? SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Manipulating another person is never a good idea as the person being used may put up with it for a while but sooner or later will rebel. You may be left holding the well known bag or nursing a broken heart. Live and let live. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Nostalgia may be brought on today by hearing an old tune or just seeing someone that resembles another. Getting depressed is not going to help matters, look on the bright side, you will be making a trip back home soon. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Buying a new computer is an adventure for you today as you get to see all the new things that have been added since you last purchased one. Some of you may find a very good buy on the remanufactured ones offered by a lot of computer stores. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A surprise party thrown for you by friends and loved ones are happily accented today as you spend most of the day as the center of attraction, something you enjoy being. This would be a perfect time for that overnight visit to Grandmas."}, {"response": 257, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (21:27)", "body": "Hmmm...wonder what I was supposed to leave behind....(two guesses and the first one doesn't count!) It is a good one for the 15th for Cancers to read!"}, {"response": 258, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "March 16, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) All of your chores will be here tomorrow so go ahead and hit the sofa for some rest and relaxation! Rest as much as pos- sible today, but don't neglect any important affairs that per- tain to your family. They should be very few of them, so fret not. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Relaxation is in order today but don't count on it. Your demand is high because you are such a good sport and your friends always want you around. Take a little time tonight to rest and be ready for a demanding work day tomorrow. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) It is time for that heart to heart talk with your spouse about the way the finances have been handled lately. En- list the spouses cooperation in cutting down on the frivolous spending so you can save enough for that down- payment you need. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You must take a firm stand today on some moral issues that concern the family. Firm up their confidence in God, for you know better than most that the family that prays together stays together. You know how to plan things with, not for, them in order to get their cooperation. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Try a small courtship to strengthen up your love and your vows today. Get a baby-sitter, if needed, and treat him/ er to dinner at a fancy restaurant. Evening brings a few problems With a friend, But you manage to clear things up quickly. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may be called on in the role of trouble shooter today at work and you can handle it well alone but in this case I would stand firm for an assistant to be given you. Remember, if you stick your two cents in, have someone there with equal or better stuck right in with you. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Either you and your spouse are expecting a baby, or you have relatives who are. The happy event should begin sometime today. Remember to keep calm and not faint, as the doctor needs to spend all his time with the mother and not with you!!! SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) An elderly relative may need your help today. Maybe just to visit or, if in another state, wants you to call them. This person could have something important to tell you. Loved ones benefit greatly today if you make the time to show them how much you really care. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) There are so many good things you will miss out on if you wind up angry with someone today. Be your happy self and let the love show. Take the family out for a treat or a visit with the relatives. Don't take everything to heart, it's not aimed at you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Feeling rested after your vacation will enable you to put in a good day on the job. A nice restaurant at lunch time is in order for today, then a quiet afternoon with the family as you plan your up coming trip. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Some of you may find a very good buy on the internet. Take a while this afternoon to plan your future job strategy or the approach you will use when you ask for that raise. Children need your guidance today so be alert to what they are asking of you. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your advice is very useful and well received today so don't let any one talk you out of helping. You accomplish more than you thought you could at work today. Get involved with your local youth group. You are, as usual, brimming over with bright ideas and plans."}, {"response": 259, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (12:52)", "body": "YOUR DAILY HOROSCOPE - Friday, March 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your optimism is high during the morning hours but you may start to feel fairly annoyed as you find your plans being changed by other people. Don't let it get you upset, just grin and keep on going. Later you can go home and stick your feet up and forget the whole thing. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Wanting to do your thing and go your way is a common among most people and doubly so in the single person in the single person, but if you are married you should tell someone how and where you can be reached due to emergencies. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you may remember parts, or even all, of a particu- larly vivid dream. This could be a warning dream so take the time to meditate on it to find out what your sub- conscious is trying to tell you; you will not regret the time you spend on this one. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Planning a short trip may keep you occupied for most of the day but be prepared for a little disappointment when some of your plans are changed; best not to set them in cement. Get together with the family and make every ef- fort to please them. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Roll up your sleeves and get out there with the rest of the workers, they may need to see you as one of the guys and not just as the boss; you could see some tense sit- uation evaporate if you do. Others will find that pitch- ing in and helping will give their esteem a big boost. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Getting on the team is the only thing that will succeed today and you are aware of this and pull out all the stops to interact creatively with a coworker to meet a close deadline. A minor traffic accident is possible if you are not alert today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Feel like going to the shore on a quit it and go whim? Then do it, you haven't done anything spontaneous for a long time and it would do you a lots of good. This is a beautiful day and you are much too alert to spend it indoors. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your latest plans for a new business is turning around in your brain like a jewel. Take that idea, polish it up and watch your success! Try not to work yourself in- to exhaustion as then you will lose your 'edge'. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your day at work should prove to be interesting due to an unexpected surprise in the afternoon. The time for community planning is here and you are asked to head up your local committee, just be sure that you can spare the time before you say yes. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) The best thing to do is to admit ones mistakes and go forward, so try not to sweep mistakes under the rug today, yours or a pals, as the rug could be moved and the damage then would be three times as bad. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) If you are socializing with big wigs today be on your best behavior. Someone you connect with could become important to your personal business affairs, or even a silent partner. Change some appointmentss today if necessary to attend. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Hold on to your hat, because the day is really going to be exciting! Look for possible new promotions, or new friendships! You also may encounter someone in need. Don't turn them away as you may bring on some bad vibes."}, {"response": 260, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (12:09)", "body": "Horoscope for March 18, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): Be on guard when making purchases today. You may have a lot of money, making you wasteful. Or, you may have little money, making you settle for less than the best. Target your expenses carefully. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Your social connections open up today. Emphasize the personal touch. You can be charming if you put your mind to it. There are clubs and organ- izations you surely deserve to belong to; apply for member- ship. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look past your current employment to avocational interests. You may have some hobby which could bring in extra income or increase your prestige. Start looking into this today for your later years. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Expand your contacts with organ- izations and societies which promote your interests. You're needing the society of like-minded people, so join a club and feel connected! LEO (July 23-August 22): Your career gets a boost today. You may get good news about your taxes if you've on the ball, perhaps even a refund. It's a good time to plan on maximizing your employer's benefits. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): Your empathy serves to create strong bonds today. Insofar as you are congenial and friendly, you can strongly and positively influence the lives of friends and strangers alike. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): You're apt to be of great help but be left unappreciated. Be content that you're making things look easy, and not contributing to anxiety. Your kindness registers an impression for later. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): This is a good time to build, repair or strengthen bridges between yourself and friends. Emphasize the good times and express your willingness to have more. Proposing, even marriage, is good. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): You are feeling optimistic today, and you're especially inclined to make a window of opportunity count for something. You're wil- ling to defer a good time until after you've taken care of business. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): Spend quality time with your children today. They would benefit by a romp in the park or a visit to a local museum or attraction. Let your own inner child have fun while you're at it. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Self-worth is very important to you. You can understand that inner quality is more important than how much you possess. A self- improvement course will work wonders for you. PISCES (February 19-March 20): You have a low tolerance for frustration today. This is a good time to get away from it all. If on vacation, you've chosen a good week- end for it. If you can't get away, create a retreat at home."}, {"response": 261, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 20, 2000 (12:06)", "body": "For March 20, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): Cooperation is highlighted today. Troubles arise from too much dependence rather than having well-defined roles and realistic expectations. When boundaries get blurred, there is less clarity of function. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Your generosity tends to be ill- conceived today. You tend to take on more work, when others need to be given more responsibility. You could wind up giving until you're emotionally and physically exhausted. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your mind is probably far away from where you are now. Beware of day-dreaming too much. Can your fantasies of a vacation be turned into reality? Start planning your dream trip. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Pitfalls in your tax return can be uncovered if you go through it again. Review investment options at your bank. You're feeling exploratory, though watch out for a tendency to be too impressionable. LEO (July 23-August 22): Your day-dreams and fantasies are close to the surface today. You're apt to treat people according to your wishful thinking, rather than as they are. Stay close to reality. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): Life seems like a big barter system today. Everyone uses everyone else; and you must buy into this to get what you want. Or, you can introduce love and fairness to start setting things right. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): You tend to put emphasis on popularity, and to rely on that to carry you through the day. Maintain your advantage with definite accomplishments, despite your inclination to let them slide. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): A distorted perception of your importance can lead you into making bad decisions. Put wishful thinking aside; don't dwell on your sense of self- importance. Emphasize doing what's right. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): You are too open to outside influences, so you need to be wise and deliberate about whom you allow to influence you. Allow only positive thoughts and images to run through your mind. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): You may certainly feel you're not getting paid enough for what you're doing today. Money isn't the issue, but your ability to adapt and stay spiritually focused. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): You're feeling basically trusting today. People tend to pin their hopes on you, and it's up to you to live up to them or declare them invalid. PISCES (February 19-March 20): You try to lessen friction by trying to please, but this may set the stage for being taken advantage of. Protect your interests first instead of trying to help too much."}, {"response": 262, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 20, 2000 (21:50)", "body": "March 21, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Stay in control today. Don't make a big purchase on a whim and then have to struggle to make ends meet for months to pay it off. Learning to sucessfully manage your income is one of the hard lessons that Aries must learn to succeed in life. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) The dancing or fencing lessons are starting to pay off in lower weight and more poise and gracefulness, keep at it. Sign a child up for some karate lessons today to help him/ er learn self control and give them the ability to defend themselves. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Sports is a big thing for you and you like them all! Just be careful you do not neglect someone special while you are glued to the tv set. If you are a player you may see an interest shown in your abilities by those who count. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You and your spouse may be thinking of adopting a child or becoming foster parents. This is a wonderful idea as long as you have lots of love to offer and a stable home environment. The rest of the family is pleased with your decision. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) If you are in the services there is a chance that you will get your orders for transfer overseas today. Don't worry, this will be a place where you can relocate your whole family and really enjoy the tour of duty. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Someone close to you may be having some problems but seeing this person every day may cause you not to notice. Look closely and and be more observant so this person knows that he/she can lean on you. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Don't take it lying down! This is not the right day to give in to others when it is going against your best interests. Give as good as you get today and you will see a marked rise in respect from a certain person. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Taking a bad attitude with a loved one is not conducive to making the relationship last very long. Be the eagle today and soar above the lower, baser urges of humanity and spend your time building people up, not tearing them apart. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A shakeup at work could leave a good opening that you are just right for. Stand up and ask for it as that is the only way you will get it, hurry though, as someone could beat you to the punch. A good night for relaxing in front of the fire. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) So, you may have got dumped. So what? It happens all the time and this time you are lucky that it happened to you because yes, a lot of the rumors you heard were true. A new love will be entering your life just any time now and then you will understand just how lucky you are. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may be all ready for the parties to begin but your other half could be in the mood to stay home and cuddle. It would be wise to get in the cuddling mood yourself as there have already been enough parties to make things a little shaky at home. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today you put aside all other thoughts when a friend or loved one comes to you for haven and help. You go all out and let this person move in. Remember there is another half of the match running around mad as can be. First sign of trouble dial 911."}, {"response": 263, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (20:09)", "body": "YOUR DAILY HOROSCOPE - Wednesday, March 22, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You may make some friends or meet a potential mate as you spend the day socializing. Look for some major personal developments today to bring on major changes in your life, all for the better, as your luck is still holding. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Delays, snafus and mixups plague you today as nothing seems to get anywhere on time or to the right person. Quitting early, if you can get away with it, seems like the best idea going. Tomorrow will be better. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Just because you are on cloud nine over your great good luck don't let it get the best of your good sense, you could come up with some wild ideas at this point and that would set the business planning back. Be sure you calm down and listen to wiser heads. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Problems that have kept you upset lately finally get cleared up and you are in a fantastic mood, you know now that you are on the right track in your affairs. Family and friends plan a surprise tonight and you will be the honored guest. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You are in demand now and the world just can't get along with- out you even though you may be counting on a laid back day when all you want to do is rest; resting is a great idea if anyone would let you. Try \"disappearing\" for a while today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Some minor setbacks and disappointment today but you manage to make the most of the day by turning events to your advan- tage. The family needs to be added to your list of must do as they need more of your company. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Gambling is addictive but you are not much drawn to it unless you think you have got an edge, well that edge can get dull leaving you with empty pockets, a thing you cannot abide. Think it over and you will not even be tempted. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You should be extra careful in any business move you make today as everything is a gamble and lady luck is fickle. The less you let others know of your business the better it will be for you in the long run. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) The only way to make big career move is to aggressively go after what you want, if you play it too cool you will see others getting there ahead of you. A loved one may be plan- ning a trip, be sure all the safety points are discussed first. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Take some time out and be by yourself for awhile today if you have been socializing a bit much lately. You need to get your thoughts back together. Romance is more likely without a crowd around so take your love to a nice se- cluded restaurant for dinner. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Don't go off on a tangent and do something out of character for you today, as it won't pay off. You will receive some welcome news from an investment today and that will be your light at the end of the tunnel. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) The praise you receive from someone today will be hard won as you have given this project every minute you could spare for months. Your charm and wit today will win you a positive response to an age old question."}, {"response": 264, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (11:23)", "body": "Horoscope for March 23, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is not a good time to allow friends to become indebted to you on a personal basis, but if you have already, you will have trouble collecting. Your work will go slowly today due to interferences of family members, this is not good for your business. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) When that overly attractive love tries to \"start the relation ship\" up again it will be best if you turn a deaf ear. Of course, some people want to be used so you could make up, but it will only mean more heartbreak. Invite some real friends over tonight. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A friend who may give the impression of being weak comes through strong for you today when you need him the most. You may also meet with some unexpected expenses that threaten to overwhelm you, but you manage to stay ahead of the bill collectors. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Some mean things may be said behind your back today but an unexpected person defends you. A slip on the job could result in a minor injury today if you do not stay alert in all things. Your secret admirer comes out of hiding. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) With your psychic level at its peak, morning hours are filled with possibilities of moving up a few notches on the job. Although things tend to slow down in the after- noon, you are still moving right along while the others are falling behind. Promote your interests. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You don't like to have to ask, but in this case you may have to as a difficulty about money could cause you some anger when a friend denies owing you at all. A loyal friend comes to your rescue tonight when someone starts an untrue rumor about you. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Finish what you have started before you can expect to see any increase in income from this project, this is a good day to work on it and finish as you will have all the peace and quiet you need. Work on it, don't think about working on it. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Some major problems could be yours today if you adopt a devil may care attitude. Do your own thing but don't hurt, or ignore others, in the process; this could lead to dif- ficulties, especially marital. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You should try very hard not to be to critical of a small child as he/she is too young to understand that you only mean it in a constructive way. You have a good day at work, scoring quite a few points with your boss. Evening may bring a few disagreements. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) People today may have ideas that are terribly different from yours, but they still deserve their turn to be heard; use tact and tolerance in all your dealings at work and at home. Encouragement comes from unusual places. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may find that your new schedule has caused the secretary to become confused and give out erronous information. Don't worry, it won't happen again as your schedule should now be steady and known to all. Don't take your frustration home to a loved one. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Finish a creative project today as the boss has been pacing the floor waiting for it. Through the actions of someone who is highly excitable you find yourself in a quandry regarding personal plans. Relax, you may miss meeting someone that you would really rather not see."}, {"response": 265, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (11:26)", "body": "March 24, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Take bold action where necessary today to insure that your ideas are at least placed under consideration at work. Your ideas are fresh and innovative enough to be of a big help to the company. Someone offers you some advice today; think it over. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You will see an increase in your net worth today with the purchase of some stock that no one else had faith in. Your family and friends are proud of your tactical insight into the market. Children may exhibit some temperament in the evening. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Major changes is on the horizon for you today, whether for good or bad will have to be decided by you and your actions, but I would say it is for your good in the long run. Your mood may be slightly down today but don't let it make you snap at others. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You are usually a very private person and can well follow your own path because you know where you want it to lead you. Understanding others and staying one up keeps you a step ahead of the competition, so your future is assured by your actions today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Try to be lenient today with everyone. If you are too bold or aggressive today it could cause you some major embarrass- ment as well as a major loss of prestige and position in your company. Don't become an overlord. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Working within your budget is going to be hard for you today but well worth the effort, not just in business, but in per- sonal as well. Watch your credit card charges today as they could get out of hand! Keep financial dealings to a simpli- fied minimum. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a good day to add up all the things that have been eating up your ready cash and then cut out the things that you can live without. You will be surprised how well this works, even in affairs of the heart; translate cash as love. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Set your priorities today concerning business and pleasure and get the family to respect your time 'at work' even if your work is at home. To prosper you will need some ground rules, make the necessary rules for your personal work habits. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A teenager could be giving you trouble right now, but the rules you lay down today will pay off later. An error made in the past will come back to haunt you today, but you get that straight and have things back to normal before the day is out. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) The world is ready for those good ideas that you have been mulling over lately. An investment you made late last year begins to pay off today as you get the good news from your bookkeeper. Keep up the good work. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) We must all make a few of our own mistakes from time to time in order to grow and change, this could be the uni- versal motive behind a certain event that transpires to- day in a friends life. You may not be able to help but you will try. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A friend comes to you for solace and advice, and your first reaction is to think that you don't have the time to deal with someone elses problems when you have your own to muddle through, but you realize that it is you that God sent him/her to, and you manage to help."}, {"response": 266, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (12:48)", "body": "March 25, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Assembling furniture may not be your type of thing but you have willing hands to help you today and the job is soon finished. Don't forget to express your appreciation and give credit where it is due. A good all around day for Aries. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Being the bull in the china shop could get you in hot water with someone special if you go bumbling around in the middle of other peoples problems. Taking care of your own will be a full time job today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The devil made you do it may be a valid excuse today as the \"twin\" half could be exactly what caused you to make the error that started all the fuss in the first place. Make your decisions firm today and stick to them. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Finishing up those projects today could be your main focus unless of course you are into do it yourself car repair in which case you will be very busy running down parts and operating on your vehicle. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Being the boss should not be as important as getting along with others on an equal basis is today. Bossy people are shunned by most and it is not conducive to a a longterm relationship. Take a deep breath and go out and have some fun. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You respond to someones need today and lend a helping hand, fortunately (?) this catches you in your goofy mood and keeps half the people roaring with laughter and the other half just roaring at you; all in good fun though. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You may be in a dead end job with no chance of advancement and have been searching for a new position with an upwardly mobile company. The offer you get today promises to be the way to go. A loved one is with you one hundred percent on your change. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) It would be a good thing to keep a low profile today. At least until a certain person calms down. There could be some disquieting episodes at work but you handle them ith your usual tact and diplomacy. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Be careful until your ship of fortune is tied firmly to the dock. No one knows your business better than you do. Assign key people to handle the parts that are running smoothly and you handle the rest. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You are not as gullible as someone may think and you are able to recognize a con job when it is tried on you and send them packing. Be cautious on the job today as there may be a few minor mishaps. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your love life should be noticeably picking up. If you are single you are slated to meet mr./ms right and married people will feel more drawn towards a loved one. You will do well at work, and will have a lot of great new ideas. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Take advantage of your enhanced reasoning ability by addres- sing the most unpleasant areas of your life that require a logical approach. Pay attention to the hidden messages in the songs of children, many gems have been mined like this."}, {"response": 267, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (09:49)", "body": "wow, mine was close for yesterday. i was in such a foul mood......snapped at everybody...."}, {"response": 268, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (13:36)", "body": "Sweetie, you have had a really rough week...You had every reason be snap. *hugs*"}, {"response": 269, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (13:37)", "body": "that's what happens when you change your syntax half way through a sentence... You had every reason to be snappy last week...I hope they all realized why."}, {"response": 270, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (15:07)", "body": "Aries : It's the beginning of the Aries Birthday time, starting this week. Spring Equinox, the beginning of the astrological new year, the start of great things. The inception point for this whole new stuff thing. It's a great idea, and it looks really good on paper. But in Texas, even though it's supposedly \"spring\" time, it's beginning to look a little like summer according to some definitions, and that idea applies to you as well. Things are heating for Aries. Now, Mars is leaving this week, which should help improve your focus. You're not going to be quite as scattered as you have been. You're also going to feel a little tired at times, like there's just a little too much excitement going on right now. Reminds me of weekend when I was supposed to be \"off.\" It started on Saturday morning, and the pressure never let up, folks coming and going, my front door should have been a a revolving door, and I wore out a pair of boots just trying to keep up. It's going to be like that for you this week. Relax? It's a great idea. Won't happen, though. Taurus : Slowly, surely, steadily, Mars makes an entrance in the Tropical Zodiac Sign of Taurus this week. Seemingly good, too. But appearances can be deceiving, and a little extra caution is urged this week. In fact, I should have some sort of Mars Refrain worked out by now. He's an active planet, and he's going to push you to excel this week. He's also going to start trying to finger your buttons. The buttons I'm referring to are the emotional ones. He's going to reach for every last little button that he sees, and he's going to try to fire off whatever he can. Better get used to this Martian energy, because it's a common theme for a little while. Sooner or later, you're going to feel like he's right there. All I can suggest is to move like Mars does, with a degree of stealth this week. Gemini : There are some days when \"instant gratification\" just takes too long. You've got a week which is filling up just like that. Now, the good news is that there is a group of some of your co-workers, associates and friends who are willing to get together and go play. This is an important concept right now. But the problem with an important concept like \"play\" is that it just doesn't happen fast enough for your tastes. And when you're dealing with a group of folks, not all of them are going to be Gemini, and the ones who ain't Gemini just don't get your need for speed. \"There's an efficiency quotient in this, you know.\" Right, that means that you are moving at a typical Gemini rate, and the rest of the crowd is meandering along, and according to your definition, wandering around aimlessly. It's irritating, to say the least. Be patient with the rest of us this week. You'll get some of that instant gratification yet, but it won't be happening quite as fast as you like. Cancer : I like working with a chart like you've got this week. It's really a simple message. It involves one of your least favorite activities, unless you're involved a job that you really like. It's all about work this week. There is nothing else that is really peeking through the your own, personal heavens. I know that at least one dear Cancer Reader will write in and complain about this, but I'm just trying to stick the astrological basics as I understand them, and work is that central issue \ufffd this week. We'll be happy to discuss other options in another week, but this week, you need to plan on spending as much time as possible in your boat if your a fishing guide. The little problem right now, if you are a fishing guide, is that the usual places where you find work, that would be fishes, are going to have less than the usual yield. But concentration on this work related theme this week has some serious long term benefit. That's the point. Leo : Good times are right ahead. Good times and stupid people. Ever notice, no matter where you go, the most moronic of drivers seem to follow you there? I moved from North East Texas to Central Texas, and those drivers all seemed to follow me. I was visiting El Paso, and the drivers out there, obviously, weren't from there. I could tell by the number of drivers who didn't know how to drive. So you're going to get followed around by a lot of people this week who seem to be a little on the ignorant side. That's the polite way to put it. Of course, I've never been politically correct myself, I don't know why I should start now, but you're getting the idea... yes, they are following you. So you're feeling pretty good this week, and there are number of confrontations which present themselves to you. Instead of yelling at the person, instead of that one finger salute, try something a little different. Say a prayer. Pray for them. Pray that they find some brains and common sense soon. It's the best thing you can do, and you don't want to ruin your good attitude. Virgo : Things are getting better and better, moment by moment. Okay, for the Virgo who must have this measured correctly, i"}, {"response": 271, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (22:07)", "body": "March 27, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Stand your ground today as long as you firmly believe in what you are advocating and you will enlighten those who don't know any better. Your patience will be the one thing that most people can't fight against. Family and friends stand beside you on this. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Another Taurus in your life today will be just a little bull headed so don't try to change his or her mind today. If it is sensible and not expensive just go ahead and do it first, argue later. Works some of the time; then there is always a compromise that can be made. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You may be interested in everything except your job today but do try to keep your mind on the job and don't let opportunities slip by you. Your home based business should see an increase shortly and then there will be less worries and more money. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A very tense day for you as it starts with a domestic quarrel before you leave home and gets worse from there. Try not to get upset with someone in the work place as this would not help your standing with the firm. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Don't hesitate to accept a good offer today, it could make your future. Going on a trip today to please a loved one is a good thing for you as you are likely to meet someone who has been waiting for a potiential partner with your ideas to come along. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you should let your heart reach out for love. You are in need of some emotional healing which you will find in the loving arms of someone special as you meet the adver- sities of life which at this time may seem overwhelming, but they are not. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Haunting memories of a past life may be revealed to you in something you run across today as you engage in pursuit of the past through exploring ghost towns, caves, antique shops or various other activities. No matter which one you choose to do it will bring on memories. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You have been trying to pin down a loved one to a committment and today you manage to do it. The expectations of your loved one could be such as to have you in the throes of regret by nightfall. In this case you might be better off looking for a new love. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Security is your main concern today don't let poor planning cause you to lose all that you have fought so hard to win. Shopping for a new home may take a lot of your time today. Finding a one is never easy but perseverance will win out. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You are highly psychic this morning and you have the work going right along in no time. Reading people today may offer the opportunity to offer forgiveness that you couldn't in the past; do it and make a loyal friend for life. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Find the hottest deals you can get today, drive hard bargains as money is tight and wasting it just won't do. This would be a good day to call in the carpet cleaners and let them do their thing to help you get ready for Springtime. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You are surrounded today by an air of love and serenity. That is how you perceive the world even if you know a whole dif= ferent truth. keeping up this appearance will allow you to take advantage of some breaks that are likely to come your way today."}, {"response": 272, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (21:14)", "body": "March 28, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Think things over throughly today so your natural ability to lead in certain situations can give you the edge you need to stop trouble in it's tracks. Your natural charm keeps you in demand to the opposite sex. Don't let that special person down. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You will make some new friends today who will turn out to be some of your best buddies. Love is on your mind so go ahead and pop the question. If you're a gal you are going to feel like accepting. Both should think it over carefully but it looks good. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A marital upset of your spouses should get your immediate attention, keeping things calm at home should be your num- ber one priority today. Being a loving spouse can go far in in building confidence in your love. A child may need to have a talk with you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Taking care of business should be uppermost on your mind today. The business you began a months ago show signs of gaining popularity. Involve the family for a really re- sounding success. You give your employees a chance today to \"show what you've got\". LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Getting the chores out of the way is important to you today, both the old ones and the new ones, as you get ready for springtime to arrive. You could unearth something special to you today while cleaning out an old storage shed. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This is not a day to let waste away so buckle down to some hard work and get caught up with things that may have been let go. Do not get enamored of an exciting new person that you have just met as this could lead to infidelity and then to the divorce court, if you are already committed to some- one. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Someone may contact you today and the news may not be welcome but with your sense of outrage stirred up you will be able to right a very bad wrong to someone you care about. Children take up a lot of your time and thoughts today. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Children make the best teachers as they are more open and less likely to lie to save someones feelings. You may be surprised what you can learn today about yourself. No need to get angry, just meditate on it and you will see how to change. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Problems that beset you today should be handled quickly while they are small and not later after they have become mountains. Put your interest in plans for your upcoming vacation so you can relax. Dinner and a movie sounds just about right tonight. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) People dropping in on you today spells some good times had by all as you really know how to have a party. Evening could bring some depressing news but with your strong sense of self you are able to overcome these emotions in no time. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Wedding bells approach you today and you may not realize it as the introductions have just been made. This is the one so be prepared and remember, you heard it here first. Candy and flowers say a lot. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A child may need your help but you have to draw the story out for he/she does not want to disturb you with their problems. Some minor upsetting things as the day wears on but nothing you can't handle. Take the evening to rest."}, {"response": 273, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (12:04)", "body": "March 29, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Temptation may torment you today but you should perserver and keep clear, heeding your conscious on this matter. Be careful how you handle a sticky situation, you should take some time to listen as well as talk. A good night to have dinner out. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Spend some time relaxing today to bring back your inner equilibrium. Home is where your love is, but you may need to get away for a while to find peace. A lucky day for you, and a great one to play the lottery. Lady luck is fickle so be careful. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Do a little reading in your spare time. Chances are good you will read something that will inspire you. Do not confront a loved one today, as it may have serious ramifications. Friends will come to your rescue tonight. CANCER (June 22-July 22) With strong determination you to finally get the recognition you deserve. keeping the peace in the family helps you keep your mind on the job at hand. Your love life is also on the up side; for the married this means a rediscovery of one another. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) today you are the impatient Lion and you may say things you do not really mean. Be careful around sensitive people un- less you are ready to trash that persons friendship. At work you will be recognized for your accomplishments. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A possible love affair with someone that you recently met is possible. This is a good day to make a major purchase. Get some sound advice about the electronics you want and use your logic. Time seems to fly for you as there will be lot of activity today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Play it safe when it comes to financial deals. Hasty decisions could be your undoing. Today you should take the time to smell the roses, spend some time outdoors, with a loved one. If you do not find a way to relax you may find your nerves getting the best of you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today will be filled with adventure for you if you let it. Don't take things too seriously although some minor dis- turbances will call upon your higher logic. Take care to make the right decision, things you do today will have a long term effect. AGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) This is a great day to start a new business venture; look deeply at the situations going on around you and you will get some worthwhile ideas luck is also in the air for you and it would be a good idea to buy some lottery tickets. Do not over indulge. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Take some time to spend outdoors. Positive things are sure to occur for you today. The stock market may be your thing; you will do well with your investments today. Your love life is looking up as well. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Job situations could stress you out today if you do not adopt a more thoughtful attitude toward things. Although, you shouldn't take yourself or others too seriously. Your bright ideas about money pays off for you. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Give in to the temptation to start a new romance although today should also be fine for nurturing the one you have. Today looks good for you from a personal point of view. This is more likely to spring from things you do rather than sheer luck."}, {"response": 274, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (11:12)", "body": "April Astrology Overview Astrology Overview: This month has a doubling effect because the only guy who is really firmly in apparent retrograde motion is Pluto. Venus makes tracks hauling herself through Aries this month, and by my calculations, she actually enters Taurus, around the very end of the month (closing minutes, photo finish). So the doubling effect is that we start out with three objects in Taurus at the beginning of the month and we get six in Taurus at the very tail end of the month. Saturn is also approaching a point where he does a tight little square dance with Uranus, and that's going to make for some interesting calls on the dance floor of life. At the beginning of the month a lot of planets are visible, right after sunset. Early in the month is the best time to see this, over yonder in the western sky. More information about how these planets will double up on you is available through the web site: http://www.astrofish.net Aries: This month doesn't kick off very well, but it sure does pick up speed in a hurry. There's a great example with Texas weather, for the longest time, the days are warm but not hot, the nights are cool, and one begins to get lulled into a place where it just feels like this is a very earthly paradise. Then, one day, the wind stops blowing, the clouds are no where to be seen, and it's just plain hot. The thermometer dances up close to a 100 degrees, and the wind which was so refreshing with its moisture just leaves a sodden, humid quality to it all. It's like a summer day in Houston. Or Dallas. It's not pretty. It's not nice. It's just plain hot and humid. At least it's a wet heat. It goes from paradise to something that closely approximates a sauna, almost over night. \"Thank your lucky stars,\" I should say. This is due to Venus creeping into your sign. To be honest, she's making good time and hardly spends three weeks with you. But she does impart that sort of lazy attitude this month, that feeling that all you want to do is sit on the porch, in the shade, and watch the ice tea glass sweat. What's going to work this month is to make sure that you've got plenty of caffeine based ice, maybe throw a little honey in it too, and garnish it with a spring of mint which is growing on the patio. It tastes good, the sweetness rolls off you tongue, and the mint adds both color and flavor. You're going to need to make sure that Venus doesn't dehydrate you this month. Taurus: When the official time of \"Taurus\" gets here, you've got a boatload of heaven sent influences just rollicking through your sign. It's like living in a student ghetto -- student barrio in Texas -- and it's like your neighbors are having a party. Folks are hanging off the balconies, there is much yelling and screaming, and sometimes you hear a dull thud as a body slams into the the wall. It's all in good fun, and that's what's so important that you remember this month. All in good fun. Got that? Sure. It's easy to remember what it was like when you were wild and crazy, and now you've got the same thing happening in your life, only it's now next door, and.... and you get the idea, right? There's a party next door, and even though you think you should call the police, it would be ever so much more neighborly just to step outside, step over the couple mimicking a love scene in a movie, step over the bodies, and politely ask them to tone it down. Duck as a beer bottle comes flying out of the door. That's the trick. That's the idea. This is brought on by a number of planets in your sign, and I'll promise the planets are going to make it so you get a lot less sleep than you feel like you need this month. And there's no rest in sight. But instead of joining the party, it might be a good time to just pull a pillow over your head. Mars is causing irritations, and he's going to act as a little trigger all month long -- determined to make you lose your cool. With all the influences swimming around you right now, that's not a good idea. Gemini: At the risk of invoking one too many cliches and having my license pulled, I'll just warn you straight up: it's always darkest before the storm. That's how the expression goes, isn't it? In practical experiences, there's an eerie calm which settles in right before the first of the rain drops fall. That's what this month is like, that quiet time, that moment when the wind stops whipping everything around, that moment when the sky is full of dark rain clouds, and it's so bleak even some of the automatic porch lights are coming on. There's been a ferocious howl, during the first part of the month, and you were trying to yell over the noise of the wind -- other peoples' voices -- and now it's dead calm. Frightening, isn't it? A Gemini stuck in a vacuum like this a scary thought to begin with. Now add some silence to that, and it gets worse. There's going to be a great, torrential downpour. The little creek will become a swollen, raging torrent. The high water mark will be reached in a"}, {"response": 275, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (11:19)", "body": "Daily Horoscope for March 30, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Take things one at a time and all will work out for the best. Being extravagant today can cause you some worries today if you are not careful to curb those urges. Put off any shopping due to your present mood, better to stay home today and shop another time. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your heart is filled with love today! Be sure it does not distract you from important matters. Someone will come to you with an idea that may cause you great excitement and you know that is the method you have been searching for. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You will be seeing old friends today when you receive some unexpected news. Take a moment to check out this news be- fore acting on it. Put away worries and use this time to unwind. Ignore a small marital quarrel today and it will go away. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Nostalgia is in the air for you today and you will find yourself renewing old friendships with people from your school years. It will be fascinating to see how much everyone has changed. Domestic disputes can now become a thing of the past as you renew your vows. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Dig deeper today than you normally do and the truth will out. Once you see the truth you will also know who the bad guy is. Friends will try to talk you out of a career move but this is something that only you can decide. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Loving someone is an unaccountable force that would just naturally allow you to let this person back into your life; so if you are wavering, ask yourself if it is real love? Conditions improve and you decide to stay with the firm. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Sibling unrest will be the order of the day in your home but you have the matter well in hand and the kids will be friends again before the day is out. Take a few minutes in the evening to spend some quiet time with a good book or a t v show, unwind. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You have a hard time keeping up today as you are feeling a little peaked; see your doctor soon for that checkup you have been putting off, and it will serve to relieve your mind as well as help you feel better. Spend the evening relaxing. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You are the only one that can succeed for yourself so all the advice in the world will not help you unless you feel it is right. Family and friends give you very little time to think today so the best thing to do is go off alone. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your children will find themselves in a turmoil and it will be extremely hard for them to make a decision today. You are the role model here so you must set the example in all you say and do. You are tempted to follow the path of least resistance; don't. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Aquarius should not get too stubborn today as that could lead to some arguments with people you love, compromise will be your bestbet to restore the peace. Teenagers may run you ragged but you givefreely of your time and energy. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Don't let the disagreements with your spouse cause you undue stress and anxiety as you have done all you can do and the problem will be over soon. Take a write up at work seriously today as no one is irreplaceable."}, {"response": 276, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (13:33)", "body": "March 31, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Events triggered by people beyond your control will keep you on edge today. Your ability to control your world is called into question today but soon you will be back on top of everything again. Slowly things turn in your direction. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) With your personality you are not cut out to be a patient person. Today you grab for all the fun you can get when you and your friends get together. Travling to a sunny spot on vacation is just the thing to do, but keep the fun sober and clean and arrive alive. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Dual Gemini may be hit with dual troubles today, One person wants a committment and the other only wants to remain friends! The one you really want is the friendly one!! Let the first one down easy as you know in your heart it will never work, and that is the kindest thing you can do. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You can make a difference in someones life today, gaining the whole hearted love and the liftime friendship which, in the past, had been lukewarm at best. Weekend fun plans will keep you both busy as can be. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone who has loved you for years and was afraid to speak now finds the freedom to make the expression clear, don't be too shocked. Your brothers and sisters needs more of your time today and you find a special joy in being with them. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Take care of your health today as you are ripe for a new virus that is out. Could be just pollen, but check it out to be sure. An older member of your family, perhaps a father, invites you out of state for a visit and you start making your plans . LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You believe in sharing good times and good fortune and today is great for that after a great week at work. Don't let anyone change your future plans and dampen your spirits. You are on the right track with your money making ideas. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Give yourself a well earned reward today and buy some- thing decadent just to please yourself, forget the neighbors, let them get their own!;-). Be sure to take along your spouse and buy him/or her something but not as expensive. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You feel ill at ease today around someone you know is only there for selfish reasons, the only concern she ever shows is for her own brood. This opens your eyes and you put a stop to the sponging that has been going on lately. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Getting involved in politics could cause quite a stir at this time. Try to keep your plans a secret as long as possible and then spring it on everyone. A person you meet today could become the power behind the throne. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) An abuser, whether spousal or child abuse never changes without some some long term mental and emotional help from a professional. If this person has not had that then don't allow him/her back into your life, you could die to regret it. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Someone close to you will confide some deep dark secrets to you today and you are amazed. You have wanted this person to open up to you but you did not beleive it would ever happen. Be sure you keep the confidence...every word of it."}, {"response": 277, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (11:20)", "body": "April 1, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your connectivity to the things that are happening around you will keep you in the lead. Plan an evening get together with family or a loved one so you can just relax and unwind. Your nerves will be delighted. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Someone tells you a secret and you are tempted to tell some- one else but after thinking it over you do not gossip as it would quickly get back to the person and you will lose a friend you have had for years. Family matters occupy your time in the evening. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Participating in fundraising affairs today will give you a chance to interact in closer contact with good friends and raise your inner self-esteem that has been flagging a lit- tle lately. Heading up a fund drive is always fun for you but be sure you don't spread yourself too thin. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You do some great work today as your thinking is highly original. You finally discover that special item that you have searched for and it is not too dear in price. Get it now as you may not be able to locate it again. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may be shopping around for a computer so be sure you shop with a reputable company and keep alert for some others who would take advantage of your novice status. Take a friend with you who knows computers and prices. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Being temperamental today especially with a loved one is not the thing to do. If you are tired of this job then look for a better job before you give your notice. It is easier to find a job when you have a job. Why? I don't know. . LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is an important day for you and forgetting to ac- complish even one of the pending tasks could get quite expensive for you. A good day at work where everyone gets along with everyone else. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You may go all out today to help someone and this takes a lot of tact as even getting this person to accept help will not be easy. You may have the power to make people do things your way today so use it wisely and not do everything to your own good. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Domestic matters may have you out of sorts, but be sure you don't take them to work with you. Take care that you do not step on too many toes at work today as this is not a good day for confrontations; you would only be perceiv- ed as being argumentive if you do. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) In business today you should use a good measure of your intuition to keep ahead of your competitor. You will meet someone today who will try to sweep you of your feet and this is where you will need the intuition the most; watch out for number one. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) That investment opportunity that has been offered you sounds too good to be true and it probly is. Invest- igate it throughly before you grab it. Your day should be unusually quite and your progress sure and steady. An all around good day for you. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A lover returns your affection and this could mean a Spring wedding coming up. Negotiations are in your favor as long as you keep your eyes on the target you are aiming for. Don't let your attention to details get sidetracked."}, {"response": 278, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "April 3, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) There could be a lackadasical air about you today, but try not to let this get out of hand and you will be able to interact well with others. Your thoughts are on success and this depends on the push you make in that direction. You should feel great today, TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You want everything to go smoothly in your marital relation- ship and are prepared to work for it. redoing your home or having positive people in to visit will go a long way in lifting your spirits right now. Today an emphasis on harmony will be of benefit. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Some individuals may kick start a new hobby that they will find gratifying and lucrative. This could even turn into a sideline or a full fledged business. This is a good time to meditate in order to get in touch with your deepest feelings. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your attention could be directed towards your immediate environment today as you come up with several ways to make it better. Interacting with people you deal with on a daily basis, such as co-workers will go well as long as you look on them as peers and not underlings. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Try to be aware of any over possessivieness today as you could drive someone away with that attitude, especially someone who is very important to you and your life. This is a period in which you are able to make good strides in the area of personal relationships. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Your business should be very important to you and maybe, with a lot of thought you will be able to find answers the answers which you have been looking for. You should have enough energy to pursue your goals today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today is favorable for learning something new; try enrol- ling in your local college or signing up for a seminar. Possibly you will meet people who come from distant points on the globe and share your news and views. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You may feel inclined to pursue a new hobby which will be good for stimulating your mind and getting the ideas flow- ing again. Some individuals will find that their creativity is directed to an area of the humanities. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Don't try to change a loved one too drastically after the vows are made as some of these things that you would change were what drew you together in the first place. You should learn to live and let live. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) When people cooperate with you today learn to show your appreciation in approiate ways. Don't lose contact with those that have helped you in the past as they may also be helpful in future situations, by remaining in contact you are not termed a \"user\". AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) If your daily obligations keep you from taking time for your self, you should try to find the time to spend on your loved ones and friends, which will allow you to create the balance between your own needs and the needs of others. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today your relationships will take on more importance and meaning for you, especially your relationships to the opposite sex. An existing affair can become more important to you. This is the time to rethink your be- havior towards others and bring understanding into your partnership."}, {"response": 279, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 3, 2000 (22:38)", "body": "April 4, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Don't hang around places that your conscious tells you that you should not be there. Heed your inner voice today if you would keep yourself out of controversial situations. A good day for quiet, private pursuits. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Some good news from a distant relative makes you very happy today as things are turning out just as you had prayed they would. Give some extra attention to the family today, if you have one, or friends if you do not. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You can't close your eyes to trouble and condone certain actions one day and jump on the person the next time for the same offense. That is no way to teach someone under your charge or care. Doing so can cause a loss of re- spect and esteem in that persons eyes. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Have a care today when interacting with family or friends as they are not much inclined to give you sympathy when you pout or sulk. Put those feelings from you and, like my dear old Mum use to say, \"hold your head up if you die hard and grin and bear it\". LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Lions should guard against the traits of all for self today, (most of you have overcome this since childhood), and think and work of and for the good of others. A way to do this is to work to help the underprivileged in your area. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) The thoughtful acts you have performed for others lately will long be remembered by those who know you well. You are a good example of a caring individual. Don't let your criticism get you in trouble with someone you love. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) The job that you gave up everything for and left town to take is working out well for you. Soon you will be able to purchase your new home and send for your loved ones. Making new friends is easy for you as people naturally lean on you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) As a Scorpio your well recorded 'drives' will be channeled in the direction of your work, and accomp- lishing the goals that you have set for yourself. With unswerving attention to the job at hand you make great strides in that direction today. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A wandering eye will not get you into trouble today, as long as it is only your eye that wanders! If you step over the line today the repercussions could reach all the way to the divorce court and that is a big price to pay for a little bit of fun. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Having friends is about one of the most important aspects of life...but, you have to be a friend to have one. When your friend needs some help from you, and it is something that you can do or af- ford, you are honor bound to help out as much as possible. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Trying to be Earth Mother or Universal Father to everyone you meet that is in need will soon drain both you and your resources; learn where to call a halt. You can do this by taking a more logical approach rather than always leading with your heart, (or your chin). PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Putting yourself in an awkward situation today may be easier that you think; open mouth, insert foot, (hello, toes!). Be careful what you say today and who you say it to, make no promises that you are not dead bang sure that you will keep."}, {"response": 280, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 4, 2000 (19:11)", "body": "this is a true statement (gemini) and one i can be found guilty of. luckily, the pisces AM takes care to make sure i'm aware of the fact that i do this. and yes, he also sticks the foot in the mouth during this process. and he did make a promise to me, let's see if he keeps it *wink*"}, {"response": 281, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 5, 2000 (06:11)", "body": "Anyone feeling like grabbing and posting today's 'scope (what a delegator, right?)."}, {"response": 282, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 5, 2000 (13:38)", "body": "April 5, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You may not think a certain person is listening when you offer your helpful advice today but they really are. You would be surprised at how much your views are respected about this matter. You have changed a life and may never know it. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A good day to go over the family finances with your spouse. Don't get sidetracked as you need to iron out some of the more nagging problems that keep cropping up for your two. Don't forget how well it works to compromise; a miracle of negotiation! GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Todays relationship developments with a loved one may not be all that you had hoped for and you have decided to call it quits. Talking a with friend is a welcome outlet for your pent up emotions because you can tell a trusted friend when you can't tell to anyone else. CANCER (June 22-July 22) The less you worry the better things will be, dwelling on problems have a way of drawing that very thing or action into your life. Today your mind will be focused on job related worries and concern over your future with the present company. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is a day designed for relaxation, and with you in mind. You are in for some delightful times today as you and the family load up the car and take off to spend those vacation days you have been anxiously awaiting in the sand and sun. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Getting things finished today looks like a piece of cake since you are spending the day alone in peace and solitude. Don't bank on it! Visits from friends and relatives will plaque you most of the day if you allow it. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You and your spouse work well together today after the battle is over. It is only a minor tiff and is soon settled. The family should spend some time together and share some good times. Enjoy the day, there is no reason not to. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This is a good time to make a major purchase for your family, such as a family car, and you are likely to come across some good bargains today. Evening will find you having dinner with friends as you celebrate the birth of someone close to you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A social function today is a great success for you as you are introduced to someone who will prove to be important to your life. You may find that things go your way today and people are quick to agree with you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Get the heavy work load out of the way this morning so your decks will be cleared for handling all the small nagging little things that you are designated to, (oh, goody!), take care of today. Take heart you are only there for eight hours. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Try to save a little time alone for yourself today. You will find that as you treat people that is the way they will treat you in kind; the old golden rule still works. Pointing a finger at others causes four of your own fingers to point back at you. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Stick with your usual plans for your business practices and making new goals for yourself that you are able to meet. Financial arrangements should work out in your favor today. Try not to go too deep into debt."}, {"response": 283, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 7, 2000 (12:22)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Don't let yourself become aggravated with someone today be- cause in your state of tiredness and nerves you will not be able to control the harsh words that you will both regret. Afternoon will find you slowing down a little and your nerves leveling out. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) With so many supportive people around you, you are not likely to stay in your present depressing state of af- fairs for very long. A ray of hope enters your life today and you at last see light at the end of your tunnel. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Keep informed about the progress of a someone to whom you may have more than the usual interest in, especially a handicapped person. Your position at work is secure so any thought about going out and finding another should be dropped. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Finishing up projects or chores one at a time today may be the thing that keeps you out of trouble at home. Use your intuition to help someone through a bad time today. Clean up your act before the chickens come home to roost. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Be careful how you verbalize your feelings today as others will be super sensitive, but not to your own particular personal problems, and why add loss of friendships to your burden? Things take a turn for the better in the evening. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You are the type to bounce back on your feet in the face of adversity and loss so that the losses are kept at a minimum. There is nothing you like better than a chal- lenge, unless of course, it is overcoming a problem. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Getting everything necessary taken care of early today has given you a much appreciated breather from the pres- sures of your day. This would be a good day to put that spare time to some good rest and relaxation. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Getting used to a new job will take some time so don't expect miracles right off the bat from an employee who may be having some difficulties at this time, and even though you wish too help, you are only able to point this person in the right direction. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) At this late date, the issue of moving should be put on the shelf until after income tax season just to be sure the move will not do you in financially. Career decisions you make now could have lasting effects. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Best to avoid people for most of the day that does not seem to have their head on straight. A quarrelsome, disagreeable friend may not be simply a boor, he or she may have some personal problems that they cannot talk about. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You have spent a lifetime helping others and find today that you are the one in need of help, but you are not the type that will ask for it. An intuitive friend will see your problem and put forth the effort to help. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Even though you are disappointed by your invitation being turned down by a special person why not ask a relative to accompany you to the luncheon? He/she may be more than happy to come and take part in your honors. Copyright 2000 by Pulse Direct, Inc. All rights reserved."}, {"response": 284, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 7, 2000 (22:55)", "body": "April 8, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) As we approach the millennium you will find your psychic powers increasing your awareness to a point of practically reading other peoples minds. This could cause some a measure of fear so it would be a good idea not to let them know how well you can actually do this. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Financial meetings and business associates will demand most of your time today as you get everything prepared for your debut on the web with your very own business. Meeting with like minded individuals will also give you a boost. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today there is a good chance that you will meet a person that is interested in not only investing in your business but is also great at bookeeping and can be invaluable to you and your company. Out of town visitors will warm your heart tonight. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Friends and relatives may tend to take advantage of your good nature and your pocket book if you don't wise up fast. There will be some who really need help and you are smart enough to see which ones they are and you act accordingly. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) The round of job applications that you and your spouse have been putting in finally pays off as you are notified to come in for interviews. When the dust settles you will have seve- ral offers to choose from. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A teenager looks on you as his/her mentor and role model so this is an ideal time to step into that position and rescue this person from his/her ways. It is never too late to stop a habit and you will definitely make a difference. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Give everybody a break and close up shop early today. The epitome of logical thinking and organization should never be guilty of last minute planning!! You will have a day full of surprising developments at work. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your vacation may catch you in the right mood as you will be taking a special trip with the family or friends. A minor problem, perhaps a spat with the loved one may threaten to cut your trip short but you find an ingenious way to solve it. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Nose to the grindstone will go far to convince the powers that be that your job is very important to you. An in- tended move is best handled today when you will be able to find many willing hands to help you out. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Try stating right out what you can and cannot do, or will or will not, as this clears the air for you to move for- ward with your life and your ambitions. Making promises you can't keep just to restore the peace would be the worse thing you could do. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A day of problems that you could probably have done with- out but, you must cope and cope you do. Employees could be a source of irritation for you. You could be in for a 'Peyton Place' type of situation if you let them go unchecked. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your new business is off to a flying start but you are going to have to get more organized with record keeping. Advice is cheap today so be sure you examine it well be- fore you take it as gospel and go with it; you have some good ideas of your own, use them well. Copyright 2000 by Pulse Direct, Inc. All rights reserved."}, {"response": 285, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 9, 2000 (23:56)", "body": "April 10, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today Lady Luck has a big smile for you as for as work and job related matters go, most everything could very well go just the way you want it. This could be a wonderful evening for pledging your love to that special someone that you plan to have around for a long time. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You and the spouse will feel especially close to one another and, believe it or not, the kids will be good as gold. This is a great day to apply for financing of all kinds since your magnetism is so strong that people have a hard time saying no to you today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) This is a day of progress, especially regarding work. Today an unusual job offer could be very interesting to you but it will mean moving to a new state. Chances are that is exactly what you have been wanting to do and if so...go for it! CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today being away from home at the wrong time could cause you to miss a very important call. A vague feeling could bother you when asked to go somewhere; don't go...listen to the in- ner voice and you will wind up much better off for it. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Creative work is met with approval today and some may even find a raise coming their way. Making plans for a special outing has you all agog. You are quick on thr up take dur- ing some business negotiations today where you will shine. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A hunch you have today concerning your financing couldn't be more on target. Try to go with the best equipment you can afford if you can, as the older things are more likely to break down. Children demand, and get attention tonight. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Being resourceful in your defeating a problem is the right thing today and you will prove to be successful. You and your spouse are in tune today as you make some long range plans for your future together. A nice evening for a quiet, private dinner. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) If you are into the stock market then this would be a good time to listen to the inner man (or woman), if you are told 'no', it would pay to listen. Your psychic abilities are extra strong today and this could lead you to some really good investments. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Though you find yourself overly busy with your home based business you will find that you need some quiet time alone to work out some of the rougher spots. Evening favors mak- ing plans with your spouse for buying a home. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This mornings business proceeds at an acceptable pace as you bring just the right motivation to your employees. This will extend into your interactions with a teenager; just be sure you do not let this person know that he/she is being manipulated. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Business moves are favored now and your career will take a leap forward due to some behind the scenes help that you are unaware of. You and a loved one could be making travel plans today and those matters will progress smooth- ly as you are both in agreement. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your are keenly aware that others have feelings and needs today and you are amazingly sensitive to these as you interact with them. Metaphysical things and books will capture your interest today as you stumble on a few that you have never seen before."}, {"response": 286, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 11, 2000 (13:49)", "body": "April 11, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your energy levels aren't as high as they might be and you would rather stay at home because the situation at work has gotten so out of hand that you are afraid that conflicts will erupt which you don't feel up to right now. At present you are more apt to criticize, which doesn't make you especially popular with your colleagues or with your boss. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today the opportunity is greater for making new friends. Relationships with those close to you are likely to be more harmonious and so this is a good time to engage in social activities, particularly at your home. This is also a good time to work on any unresolved area of your emotional life, as you should be more accepting of being able to address any issue here. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your sexual energy may be higher than usual. You might be drawn to others as you do not want to feel isolated. Any- one with whom you counsel with is a strong candidate. However, try not to overdo the need to appease certain people. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today can initiate a struggle between the conscious will and the spiritual will. Try to get in touch with your higher self and create a balance with your conscious will. Above all, be honest, consistent and humble as the situation demands. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This could be a day of some contrast. One moment things seem OK, but the next, they are turned around creating confusion and uncertainty. Others may see some of your statements as idealistic perceptions that are impractical. Certain in- dividuals are prone to manipulation and it induces a greater self-deception, either by yourself or others. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Conflicts can develop which you may not be able to handle. It may be that you tend to escape in daydreams and feel like you need to \"numb\" yourself. But don't panic, if you have never had problems with drugs or alcohol, you aren't going to develop any now. This is merely a description of a general tendency. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Generally one can say that your present perspective tends to exclude others. If that is true you should withdraw today and devote yourself to studying Astrology or some other type of alternative science which serves to provide insights into oneself. Grant your body a day of rest. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) At this point your will and life energy will meet up with your emotional world and you will find out to what extent your ambitions are in tune with your feelings. You will have a few days to check out your subliminal emotional level. But never fear, this is not anything Earth shat- tering. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Other people may confront you in order to test your comfort level between your inner character and outer temperament. Many different kinds of events may occur, but if your self- esteem and self-awareness is sufficient, you are unlikely to experience conflict with others. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You may find yourself taking part in some public or family affairs. Within such a group, you could play a leading role. This is an important time for cooperative matters. There is also a possibility that you will encounter an individual that can assist in furthering your spiritual growth. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You should feel good today, both psychologically and physically. This combines to form a renewed optimism, greater cheer and humor. Hence, you are ready to take in new experiences of life. For some, it may involve the law, whether man made or natural. Take care not to over indulge in this energy. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today strong ego powers are at work. These could be useful for a new project and should be put to constructive use. Physically you are in good shape and should engage in some type of physical activity to avoid becoming nervous and edgy because this can lead to senseless arguments"}, {"response": 287, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 11, 2000 (23:09)", "body": "April 12, 2000 - Wednesday ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A time to use restraint, particularly if your inner desires have a tendency to be in conflict with your ego. Today is a test of how you project your motivations. Therefore, people will enter your life, or events are likely to occur, that will test this validity. If assertion is called for, it should only be used when absolutely necessary. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) As always, a loving assertion is far better than any irate over-assertion. If necessary, channel excessive physical energies through exercise. Meditate or exercise to obtain a balance between the mind, body and spirit. Martial arts and Tai chi are an excellent exercise. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Being overwhelmed by your own energy, you feel nervous and edgy as circumstances prohibit their adequate expression. It may be that you are too concentrated on yourself. It would be nice if you would take part in communal activities and place some of your excess energy at the disposal of friends and family. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you are feeling great and are looking out at the world optimistically. Everything you have to do today will be a success because it is just that kind of day. Things will center around expansion today. At the mom- ent you probably want to do something extraordinary and are dreaming about exotic places. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today should prove interesting in experiencing new adventures and new friends. Such activities can be enlightening and exciting, which could lead to some creative changes in your lifestyle or immediate environment. This could invoke an intellectual, or feeling free, influence. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you should get out and do something completely averse to your usual style, because you are ready for it. This is just the kind of thing which is needed. It should remind you that the positive and unexpected things in life are there to be enjoyed. Flexibility should be the motto. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you generally make a positive impression on every- body making it easy for others to get along with you. Spend the evening in pleasant company and watch out that you don't show your conceit, although today no one will hold it against you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You have your own variety of \"healthy egotism\" and you could meet up with influential people who will support you. This will enable you to approach your work with plenty of confidence whereby you won't hide your light under a bushel. This radiance will help you make an impression at public appearances. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Physical activity is advised in order to channel height- ened physical energies. Your desires and conscious will are more in harmony at this time, so you should be able to work well with other people. Although your assertive- ness will be strong, it is unlikely that you want to become aggressive or agitated. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You may be subjected to a test of your confidence or that which motivates you. Improper motives may be challenged, yet proper motives will be reinforced. A challenging ef- fect could be felt if you have been holding back on doing something. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) This could be a day of high mental energy with lots of talking or writing. The interchange with most people should be quite successful. Any important ideas that you have will be presented with greater clarity. This is a good time to perform an audit on your activities and goals. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Are changes necessary and do you need to enlist the assistance of others? Unless contradicted elsewhere, this is a good time for negotiating favorable deals and travel. Attendance at a literary event could prove to be stimulating due to your receptivity with study right now. Copyright 2000 by Pulse Direct, Inc. All rights reserved."}, {"response": 288, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 12, 2000 (22:08)", "body": "April 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your imagination and inspiration is likely to be more active. There could be feelings of empathy which you might not even recognize if the energies you absorb are melded with your own psyche. If possible, try to avoid taking drugs or alcohol for a day or so. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) The event or experience in which your emotions are revealed in public is more likely during this day. Of course, it is far better that such emotions are well received, so if you have a tendency to react, try to be more responsible for your emotions. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) This can be a time when your feelings are more aroused concerning social issues. You may not be aware of the significance of such changes, but others may. Some individuals may act in a more unconventional manner, wanting to know the truth about the feelings of someone else. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today your creativity and loving way of caring about people will be emphasized. Although you appreciate being the center of attention, you don't just take, but also like to give. Today you should be feeling great and be getting a lot of attention especially from members of the opposite sex. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) At times, certain unconscious feelings may surface that causes you to act in a more secretive manner, in order to hide certain feelings from others. This occurs if you sense that others will not accept you if they found out. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Certain feelings of nostalgia may have a focus during these few days. If this is so, it is a good time to meditate in order to get in touch with such feelings as to why they are so strong. On the other hand, you may want to simply relax in the quite of your home. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a time when you may discuss and explore the deeper emotional needs of you and your partner. This may occur due to a variety of reasons, from a desire to be closer or because of some conflict. The overall goal here is essentially to enhance the balance in a relationship. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You should have a heightened sense of good feelings during this day. This might extend to an avoidance of adventure or serious activities, in preference for being comfortable in a nurturing environment. You are more likely to seek warm, affable people. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you will need to exercise some degree of care with your level of physical work. There may be little gains made with a lot of effort. You will also need to exercise some degree of patience, particularly if you have been accumulating any stress or frustration with your job, home or relationships. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You may experience an emotional period when you feel noticeably in tune with the life around you. As such, you are more able to become emotionally involved in what you are doing. This is a great time to naturally get in touch with your deepest feelings, perhaps through meditation. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Contact with other people are favored today, especially members of the opposite sex. This is because you are more at ease. Therefore, it is a good time to engage in social activities, particularly within the home. Your feelings and vitality are in greater harmony, so you should be able to perform a little better than usual. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You can be vulnerable to emotional upheavals that threaten or test your inner security. Avoid trying to control some- one else's emotions. If your emotions are over stimulated, you are liable to outbursts of feeling. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 289, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 14, 2000 (14:19)", "body": "April 14, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today harmonious powers are at work which could be useful for a new project. At the moment you have a lot of good ideas for putting them to constructive use without creating stress. Physically, you are in good shape and you won\ufffdt let the day go by without physical exertion. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may be too wrapped up in your own objectives that if you are too introspective, conflicts with others may arise, especially with managers or those in authority. If conflicts do arise, try to learn from the situation. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you are creative and are unusually friendly and don't mind being the center of attention. To avoid taking too much you make a special effort to give as well. This would be a good day for a party. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A time when you should find it easy to reach agreement with others. Some new friends or romance is possible. Your popu- larity can be enhanced. With this kind of flow, it is a good time to patch up any outstanding difficulties in any relation- ship, but only if you remain conscientious and open. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your spirited mind will stimulate your imagination allowing you to catch on to, or express ideas. The freedom side wants to balance individuality against the expectations and needs of others. Creative changes in lifestyle and in your im- mediate environment can be initiated at this time. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Your confidence and vitality could be high today. You will be able to organize and gather resources as required. As such, your relationship with managers and peers also shows some favor. Your personality can be utilized to the full, especially if it is undemonstrative. Your direction should also be clearer. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This day is especially suited for setting your own goals and starting to realize them. You have your own variety of \"healthy egotism\" and you could meet up with influen- tial people who will support you. This will enable you to approach your work with plenty of confidence. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This could be a day in which any ideas that you have will be viewed with greater clarity. This high mental energy should enable a successful discourse with most people. Writing is also favored, so if nothing else is pressing, write a letter. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Attendance at a literary event could prove to be stimulating due to your receptivity with study right now. Today is a good day to confide in others, and therefore you will communicate with others more than usual, but will do your best to avoid stress. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This is not a time to gamble, for you could easily over- ndulge yourself. Therefore, try to maintain a balance during this time. Look for warning signs that you may be stepping over the line. Act with optimism and humility. Today you feel your strength, but don't see the world very positively. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Just because you are good at convincing others that you are able to handle everything, doesn't make it true. Sometimes you may seem arrogant and act too spontaneously because you are too sure of yourself. Even if you find it difficult, it is important to allow other people enough space or one day you will pay the price. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You may be confronted by people who challenge your objectives in the outer world. Conflicts with others may arise, especially with managers or those in author- ity. If conflicts do arise, try to learn from the situation, and don't be too demoralized. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 290, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 14, 2000 (21:45)", "body": "April 15, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A time of transitory introspection, inhibition, or even depression if you are not sufficiently in touch with your feelings. Somehow, the universe presents you with situations that will test the level of your consolidated emotions. This is a time for serious thinking and meditation. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may experience a higher than average perception due to quicker thinking. Your ability to reach decisions, and ersuade others, will be heightened. This is a good time to verbalize your inner feelings with greater ease. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your emotions may be more consolidated, so it is easy to help those in need and provide good advice. Your patience seems to be higher, so you should be able to accomplish much more. This is a good time to meditate on your inner development. CANCER (June 22-July 22) For a few hours, you may become moody and possibly say things without forethought. If you feel restless, do not worry, for this is a time for psychological and emotional readjustment. Perhaps you need to balance the rational and emotional mind. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is a time that may test your feelings of independence. You may feel that some people are trying to clip your wings. Some of these transits may invoke a reaction towards some form of philosophy, or even invite questions. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This may be a good time to withdraw into the personal security of being alone with a close friend or lover. This is because you may over react to the emotional influences of the outside world. Within your personal space, get in touch with your emotions. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a time to take care that you do not overreact emotionally to others, particularly with women. The conscious will of the Sun confronts the emotions depicted by the Moon. Thus your actions could be over- active if there is insufficient balance between your emotions and your conscious will. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) It may be that you should be wary of your intuition during this transit. Thus, postpone decisions until you can be sure of them. If this is a confusing time, meditate on clarity. Sometimes, new experiences and perceptions arise. A sense of wanting to get involved in some new venture may occur. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You may feel the need for some excitement and fun. This is not usually over-the-edge, so it is possible to more readily influence others. Your originality, inventiveness and creativity can be higher than usual. This can be a time of constructive change. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Mood swings or emotional tension will unsettle you if sub-conscious impulses seem to re-emerge. Try to avoid lobbing emotional hand grenades, or over reacting, as you can easily be the emotional loser in any dispute. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) For a brief moment, you may experience impulsiveness, irritability, or irrational feelings. It is as if you seem more prone to take offense and become easily frustrated. Before reacting, try to determine if you are just more sensitized. Meditate on loving kindness. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You should be more cheerful and generous right now. Cooperation with others is easier and perhaps you feel like being with close friends. This transit can assist in providing a greater understanding of other people."}, {"response": 291, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 16, 2000 (22:45)", "body": "April 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) For a brief moment today, you may experience impulsiveness, irritability, or irrational feelings. It is as if you seem more apt to take offense and become easily frustrated. Try to stay reasonably calm. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today you will have a brief period of emotional happiness, with a keen sense of anticipation. You may also feel a lit- tle more optimistic than usual as you are able to interact more easily with your peers. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your feelings are vibrant and probably need appeasing! Therefore, this wonderful energy is favorable for ro- mance and love. Any long term relationship will probably be destined for success as your choosing the right time and the right person will be better than most today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) There could be a feeling of wanting to break free of any negative emotions today. The more emotional individual may experience mood swings. If you feel emotionally tense, go for a walk. Focus and discipline may be difficult for a few hours. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is a time to avoid acting maliciously towards someone you consider warrants it. It is also a time to avoid un- savory areas and angry people. It won't be easy to get along with you during this time because you think you have to con- trol everything, Try to adopt a more live and let live at- titude. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Certain challenges may briefly arise in your family or with those whom you share an intimate relationship. These people are not deliberately antagonizing you, it may be that you are more sensitive to certain statements or actions today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your inner feelings may need special attention right now, and you may express your emotions excessively in close relationships with others. This transit could indicate some extravagance, so take care with purchases and food or drink that you take. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This may be a good time to withdraw into the personal security of being alone with a close friend or lover. This is because you may over react to the emotional influences of the outside world. Within your personal space, get in touch with your emotions. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you could encounter difficulties if you work towards realizing your personal goals without re- gard to its effect on others. If your ego gets to be too big, others will make sure you pay the price for it. Even if you have a lot of self confidence at the moment. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) If your desires and conscious will are in balance, you should be able to work towards objectives and work well with your peers and those in authority. This is also a time to re-assert any position of authority that you have, both personally and/or with certain people. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Through cooperation, high energy and the joy you bring to work, you can serve as an example to your co-workers. You have the potential to take on pro- jects which you have been wanting to do for a long time. Then you will stand behind your activities completely. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) At present you have unbelievable energy reserves at your disposal. It should not be difficult for you to assert yourself or at least prevent yourself from being exploited or oppressed. If you don't give your energies free reign at the cost of others, there shouldn't be any problems within your group."}, {"response": 292, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (22:30)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You may have some confusion or unpredictable experiences today so try to test understanding and appreciate where others are coming from. If assertion is called for, it should only be used when absolutely necessary. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) As always, a loving assertion is far better than any irate over-assertion. If necessary, channel excessive physical energies through exercise. If you are only out to assert your ego, people will avoid you and you will end up feeling dissatisfied. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Make sure that you get a chance to relax. That would help you because if you let your relationships get too intense, conflicts can develop which you may not be able to handle. It may be that you need some time to yourself today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you should get out and do something completely averse to your usual style, because you are ready for it. This is just the kind of thing which is needed for you to fulfill your goals. It should remind you that the positive and unexpected things in life are there to be enjoyed. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your vitality is likely to be higher than usual today. This is a good time to assess your activity in certain projects and goals. Those that are not worth pursuing may need to be re-structured or abandoned. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today is a good day to confide in others, and therefore you will communicate with others more than usual, while doing your best to avoid stress. Seeing your position clearly helps you to explain it to others. You work better because you have no problems drawing on your power of concentration. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Todays conflict emanates from someone in authority, and you may perceive this individual as misusing their power. It is important to remain calm and diplomatic. You may also be tested on some past event, or the reliability of a mechanical device. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) The opportunity to act on personal desires may need some self-control. Thus, you will benefit from the assistance of others. Your desires and conscious will are in balance, so you should be able to work well with other people. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today strong powers are at work which could be useful for a new project. At the moment you are having a lot of good ideas for using them. Your own physical energy is abundant and it would be a shame if it wasn't adequately expressed. You are not just concerned with asserting yourself so others will enjoy working with you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Disruptions are possible today, whether they are mechanical breakdowns, restrictions or disagreements. A few people may be accident prone, but it is important to know that we create accidents, they don't just happen. The reason may be obscure but you can find the answer within yourself. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) If you think that the offer from a friend to do something unusual today doesn't fit in with your usual way of doing things, then think twice before declining, because inside you crave to break off with conventions. Be aware that this is all about flexibility. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) The kind of experiences that you may be subjected to today can depend on a variety of factors. Events that occur tend be either a test, or, an initiating energy designed to invoke change. Today your daily exercise run might take you into a new romance."}, {"response": 293, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (22:32)", "body": "These are for week ending 04/21/2000 Copywrite Notice These horoscopes are the exclusive property of Astrology Online and may not be used by any one (other than for viewing purposes on this site) without the express, written permission of owner. All infringements of this copywrite will be pursued to the limits of the law. Hit \"Refresh\" or \"reload\" on your browser if date is not current. ARIES (Mar. 21- April 19) Your emotions can be a little more forceful during this brief transit. Because of this, you may be more self-centered, which can lead to some difficulties in relationships. On the other hand, if you are in touch with your emotions and your self esteem is high, there should not be any significant stress or emotional challenge. Your dreams could help you through what may prove to be a worrisome week. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) For a brief moment, you may experience impulsiveness, irritability, or irrational feelings. It is as if you seem more prone to take offense and become easily frustrated. Try not to over react, and if you do, cool down and calm your feelings, don't forget to appologize while you are at it. Meditate on your dreams this week as you may come up with some surprises!. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Your emotional feelings are likely to be heightened in a comfortable way. Being around people who possess a certain degree of emotional sensitivity should make you feel contented. This company is more likely to be of the opposite sex, who will find you more responsive during this brief transit. Dreams are fuzzy and not too informative. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) One of the common effects of this transit is a light dose of paranoia. You seem sensitive as to whether people like you, or feel guilty or inferior in some way. If you are experiencing a longer term emotional transit, this brief transit could initiate the vulnerability that leads to tears. Avoid drugs and alcohol! Pay close attention to your dreams as they are vivid this week. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You could be a little more erratic, eccentric or rebellious during this week. This may be due to the fact that your mind is quicker than usual, which could result in some impatience. Feelings of de ja vue can occur during this this week. You should be able to interact well with others. Your dreams will keep you entertained for the week. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Although much will depend on your general emotional state, your emotions should be working well with your physical energy. If your feelings are already well integrated with that of your conscious mind, your relationship with other people should be congenial. Your physical vitality may be suffering. As such, avoid surgery or excessive use of that part of the body which is ruled by your natal Sun sign. Pay attention to a dream about midweek, it could answer your question. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) This rather brief transit could be marked by some individual, perhaps a woman, who seems to be working at cross purposes. It is not as though this individual is deliberately antagonizing you, the universe is simply presenting a challenge. It could be that you need to apply the necessary patience and attention. Avoid becoming impulsive and illogical. Dreams are of a precognitive nature. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) During this time, your attention may be focused on items of a personal nature and the things that you value. You may find yourself becoming more involved in discussions concerning one's sense of values. If Mercury is under stress in this house, you should defer most forms of purchases. This is because your mind may not be clear of all of the necessary facts. Your dreams can lead the way to success if you meditate on them. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Your mind could be directed towards business around the home, so communication with others may be dulled somewhat. You may have nostalgic thoughts regarding certain events. As your thoughts are directed inwardly, it could be a good time to link past conditioning to your present situation. You may experience a more vivid past life under hypnosis. Pay attention to your dreams as one may introduce you to your guardian angel. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Your mind could be directed more towards recreational activities this week such as games and entertainment. Your communication may even be more direct than usual, so be careful that you do not tell it too much \"like it is,\" and offend other peoples' sensitivity. Be sure to maintain a listening ear to people, and avoid over projecting your thoughts. A few good dreams that you will be able to remember. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) This week is a good time to test understanding with partners and close friends regarding any matter at hand. The benefits not only provide the balancing energy of this house, but also stimulates your mind in a conducive manner. Negotiations are also favored, as are contracts, providing you keep a cool head during the process. Your dreams may give you a good stock market tip"}, {"response": 294, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 17, 2000 (22:42)", "body": "Guess I won't be posting those weeklies anymore...I just read the comment at the top and I don't want to be raided..."}, {"response": 295, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (09:23)", "body": "Business around the home, I'm heading to my rent house right now. I'll have to read the rest of Spring from there."}, {"response": 296, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (09:26)", "body": "The Quail house that is, trouble brewing. Situation."}, {"response": 297, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (13:24)", "body": "Fingers crossed for you, Terry...sending beams and good vibes of Aloha and peace. Keep us posted. I worry about you!"}, {"response": 298, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:21)", "body": "It's sorting itself out ok so far, you already know because we talked on dialpad a bit ago."}, {"response": 299, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:44)", "body": "Yes...I am much relieved to know that. Make that little room into a chapel or library...gotta change the vibes in there!"}, {"response": 300, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:48)", "body": "Yep, well, we'll just take our time and make a good pick."}, {"response": 301, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (20:58)", "body": "Good. It must be very difficult to figure out what is inside the character of new renters..."}, {"response": 302, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2000 (23:39)", "body": "April 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Generally, there can be a need to project your sense of will unheeded, often in the form of recreation and pleasure. How- ever, it is important that you maintain your sense of duty. This is a good time to meditate in order to get in touch with your deepest feelings. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Due to a natural charge of energy at this time, the opport- unity exists to succeed more easily than at other times. This does not imply that you should ignore your limitations and abilities, for if you are misguided on this, you will quite likely fail. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A slight unpredictable event can occur, which can place a snag in your plans. You may feel some level of guilt, or have your conscience nudge you. This can be a time of constructive change. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your feelings can be a little more intense and energized right now. You may feel like watching a mystery movie, or perhaps discussing something related to the mysterious and supernatural. An unusual event may occur that colors your perception. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may unconsciously stir certain feelings in someone else. Be sensitive to the emotional needs of others, and if neces- sary, be consistent. Try to be aware of being too accepting. This is also a great time to socialize. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You should have a heightened sense of good feelings today. This might extend to an avoidance of adventure or serious activities, preferring to be comfortable in a nurturing environment. You are more likely to seek warm, affable people who will find you responsive. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Take care that you do not engage in certain excesses. This should not be a difficult day, but there can be the occasional conceited, cocky or vain mannerism shown. Only make promises when you know you can keep them. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Sympathetic feelings and greater affection are typical for today. This, together with having a more cheerful manner will favor the entertaining of others in your home. New experiences and perceptions arise. A sense of wanting to get involved in some new venture may occur. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) This is also a good time to work on any unresolved area of your emotional life, as you should be more accepting of being able to validate and address such issues. You could feel the need to become emotionally involved in what you are doing right now. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A moment of extroversion. For an hour or two, you could project your emotions more prominently. Much of how today goes depends on the extend to which you can normally handle your emotions. The greater your ability to deal with your emotions, the more you will be able to relate to the feel- ings of others. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may experience an emotional period when you feel notice- ably in tune with the life around you. As such, you are more able to become emotionally involved in what you are doing. This is a time to naturally get in touch with your deepest feelings, perhaps through meditation. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You may feel extravagant and a little proud today. Portray honest feelings, and only make promises when you know you can keep them. Harmonious feelings and greater affection are yours for the asking. You might feel more nurturing and even consider some redecoration. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 303, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (18:28)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is often a time when you can readily project yourself well within some group or family circle. You should feel close to certain individuals today and enjoy some joint activity. If you are ready, and other factors support it, you will likely encounter an individual that can assist in furthering your spiritual growth. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today you have something to confide and therefore will communicate more than usual. You can see your position clearly and explain it understandably to others. You will work effectively because you have no problem draw- ing on your power of concentration. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Because you may be prone to egotism and should watch out especially that your colleagues and your boss aren't taken back. Don't be too demanding, but always be aware of the value of your skills. It may be best to stay in the background and put off impending decisions. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Financial matters are also favored, either negotiating or finalizing outstanding deals. You will gain great satisfaction in beautifying or enhancing your immediate environment as well. Today you are feeling great, which has something to do with the charming way you treat members of the opposite sex. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Generally one can say that your present perspective of reality tends to exclude others. If that is true, then you should withdraw for today and devote yourself to the study of Astrology or another kind of alternative science, which will bring you insights. Grant your body a day of rest. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) As the center of attention, you treat everyone especially affectionately. Go to the theater or a concert, buy your- self something nice. Today you won't be prone to overdo things. This would be a good day for a party, where you can meet people in a relaxed atmosphere. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) If this is a day in which the plans of other people conflict with yours, it is likely that you are being tested. Often, the conflict emanates from someone in authority, and you may perceive this individual as misapplying their power. It is important therefore, to remain calm and diplomatic. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This is a good day to break some of the veils between physical reality and the greater reality in order to gain some spiritual understanding. You sensitivity and sense of altruism will be higher than usual. Certain empathic feelings may also be experienced. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today your family and home environment will be a source of strength to you. Recognition of the value of a plea- sant home may motivate you to visit your parents. The search for the warmth of trusted people stifles your desire to appear in front of large crowds or to brag at work to attract attention to yourself. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Probably this is a great time to assert yourself against competition or to call attention to your strengths, al- though you prefer to sit back and observe what's going on. Maybe you will get close to your family and go on an outing together. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today you will need to exercise some degree of humility so as not to allow your thinking to dominate a situation. By eing receptive and compromising, you will be able to work better with others. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) If this is a day in which power struggles arise, or a breakdown in a relationship occurs, it is possible that you have insufficient balance in these areas. It is important therefore, to understand the nature of this, rather than allow some unwise action to impede your growth."}, {"response": 304, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (19:22)", "body": "Hmmmm. Not very relevant today."}, {"response": 305, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 21, 2000 (19:57)", "body": "Mine has lately...amazing! How did they know?! And the men also involved had theirs played out with the transit negativity for one and support from the other one. Excellent results all round for me. Got something settled which should have been settled a year ago or longer...!"}, {"response": 306, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (09:32)", "body": "Good!"}, {"response": 307, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (12:48)", "body": "...Yup! It will not easily go away, however; we \"discussed\" it heatedly last night about time to go to sleep and was not a fun time. The guy has lousy timing, but he is making me more and more independent of need to have him around. Who needs the aggravation. Life is too short!"}, {"response": 308, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) The reason may be obscure, and it might be necessary to consult a psychic or an astrologer to understand the bigger picture of why certain events occur. An even better way is to find the answer within yourself, as we all have the ability to tap into a greater consciousness of understanding. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) With meditation and inner understanding, you will gain much insight. Your inspiration is also likely to be more active as a result. This is a good day to break some of the veils between physical reality and the greater reality in order to gain some spiritual under- standing. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) During the course of the day you should receive plenty of opportunity to stock up on positive karma. In ad- dition, your present constitution is conducive to research in a field such as Astrology. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you feel your strength, but don't see the world very positively. Actually you are capable of devoting yourself to useful consideration, but let yourself be tempted to push this off onto others. things will center around expansion. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Just because you are good at convincing others that you are able to handle everything, doesn't make it true. Sometimes you may seem arrogant and act too spontaneously because you are too sure of yourself. Even if you find it difficult, it is important to allow other people enough space. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Physically, you are in good shape and you won't let the day go by without physical exertion. Even if it is strenuous you get a lot of enjoyment out of it. At the end of the day you will look back and wonder how you managed to accomplish so much without get- ting tired. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Todays events can induce a rebellious tendency, particularly if any selfish interest is shown by those in authority. Part of this may be to test the way in which you can influence change in such matters. If you find yourself fighting against your conscience, due to an over or under reaction, meditate on the issue. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) The Moon also stands for the situation at home. Thereby you are in touch with your emotions and have no problem expressing your feelings to others. Today will bring a short period in which your emotional base with respect to the way you lead your life will become conscious SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your confidence at work should be good today. As such, your relationship with managers and peers also shows some favor. Your personality can be utilized to the full, especially if it is undemon- strative. Your direction should be clearer also. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This day is especially appropriate for setting your own goals and getting right on whatever it takes to put them into practice. You have your own variety of \"healthy egotism\" and you could meet up with influen- tial people who will support you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) At present you are more apt to criticize, which doesn't make you especially popular with your colleagues or with your boss. There may be a danger of taking your position too serious and then neglecting to take the rights of the people around you into consideration. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This could be a day when a compromise is needed. Your will-power may be lacking. You may feel more restricted today in expressing affection to others and seek self- gratifying pleasures to the exclusion of others. A chance of promotion is in the air today. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm -----------------------------------------------------------"}, {"response": 309, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (14:33)", "body": "Not much here for me today. I'll just bathe in the Spring and hope I get congenial company to join me..."}, {"response": 310, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (16:18)", "body": "Well I ordered DSL for the Quail house today. 1.5 gb up and down. This should work out great for running some of our own servers. I added a new roomie who's a marketing guy for an Austin Internet startup and I'm planning on dividing up the living room in to cubicles so we could start our own home based Internet businesses. The Quail Creek geek coefficient just went way up."}, {"response": 311, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:28)", "body": "Geeks rule! Great news! (Some of my best friends and a son of mine are geeks!)"}, {"response": 312, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (20:40)", "body": "April 24, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A good day for romance and planning your wedding for some of you. Others will find a new found closeness with a loved one. Keeping your cool in a ticklish situation today could be a piece of cake for you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is not a good day to back up and be bull headed about ideas other people like but don't sit well with you. Try to give them the opportunity to prove the ideas merit be- fore throwing the baby out with the bath water. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You should make a firm decision today and stick to it as being wishy washy could bring you some losses, both financial and romantic. Plans you had for today must be changed and while this will not sit well with you, you find that rolling with the flow will be beneficial to you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Fantasizing what you would like to do is not going to accomplish anything worthwhile today. Best to get your- self kickstarted and go for it in realtime. Because you are a nurturing, caring person you may find yourself the center of attention around children today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today you may meet someone who will trim your claws down to size and turn the lion into a lamb...and he/she can do it all with a simple smile. You may have an enemy at work and it would be best to nip any potiential problems in the bud today simply by walking away. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Some of you may have reached a turning point in your lives whereby you will reassess your spirituality and your spiritual values. Perhaps by trying to educate the public so that more people will have choices and can learn to make them more intelligently. Others may prefer to be the student. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You are firing on all cylinders today and making good decisions is a snap for you. Don't get too sure of your- self though as a decision made without some thought could backfire on you. Your martial problems should be resolved before nightfall. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) While you are not usually the altruistic type today you will find much pleasure in aiding someone to reach the goals they have laid out for themselves. Shopping could be a good move today as you are bound to find some decent bargains on things you have been wanting. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Turning on a good friend out of jealousy today would be a big mistake, it is not the friends fault and he/she may be entirely innocent of any wrong doing. Checking out the rumors, not believing them, is the way to go. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today do not let the sun set on your anger with a loved one. Make amends where possible or try compromising to end it. A simple apology just might work miracles in this situation. Concentrate today at work on the task at hand, not your domestic problems. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A mistake in judging the problems of someone and their unwillingness to be helped may have you feeling down today. You have to remember that you will not always be able to make a difference, sometimes you must stand by and watch. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Wondering what happened to a recent romantic affair will cause you to reassess the way you lean on people too much. Some signs like this while others want a partner to stand up and be counted. Try to control any clinging vine ten- dencies you may have. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 313, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (07:14)", "body": "Jeaslosy?"}, {"response": 314, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (08:02)", "body": "Cancer You tried to take the easy way out and look where it's gotten you. All your maneuvering has put you into an even tighter spot. If you had simply stuck to the original plan, you'd be far ahead of the others by now. It may be time to give up your strategy and make a vertical exit from the game. All hope isn't loss, however. A new opportunity arises. Tonight, let yourself have feelings -- denying them will only make things worse. Sagittarius You enjoy the positive energy for one more day, Sagittarius. No matter where your treasure hunt takes you, the greatest prize of all lies within. Make your own luck. Stage your own circus. You have everything you need, which frees you to reach for what you want. Friendships mean a lot to you during this time. Make an effort to let your friends know how dear they are to you. Throw a dinner party or send out cards -- it's the thought that counts right now."}, {"response": 315, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "Yeah, Cancerean, let your emotions be known to others who wonder if you still have any. Cannot imagine the Sagittarius I know having any Jealousy other than from others jealous of him...! If I change my plans for today I stay home from softball and play on the Spring. I'd druther do that anyway..."}, {"response": 316, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (17:37)", "body": "You give me too much credit, Marci. I've had a few jealous moments in my life."}, {"response": 317, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "Not at all... it must have been in your green youth. I could not imagine you that way now. (Cannot just be me who sees you in that shiny armor!) April 25, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you will offer aid and comfort to a seriously ill friend. You may not be able to make a difference in the situation but you will make that person happier from your having visited. A good time to take the evening for resting. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Go out of your way today to touch someone who may need some heartfelt encouragement. You are good at bolstering other peoples confidence and today you even manage to boost your own self esteem a couple of notches. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The love of your life has just laid down the law to you and it makes you angry. Try to be understanding of where your partner is coming from rather than giving a childish display of anger. You will earn not only greater respect but also some peace and quiet. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You may have been burning too much midnight oil and not get- ting enough rest. Try to make your nights earlier if you can, but if you must work long hours then you should insist on being allowed to sleep a proper number of hours as your health is all important. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A confusing day for you as you seem to misunderstand what people are saying and their motives, try falling back and regrouping today as you listen more than talk and in that way things will not get so muddied up. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A health problem may have you and the family worried, but chances are good that the final tests will tell a positive tale and give you a clean bill of health. Try to concentrate on your goals and your work at hand as you go about your daily routine. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today some of you may have a heavy heart over the plight of a loved one, but you should try to bear up as there are others weaker than you that will need your strength in the next few days. Others will find this a good time to push for a job promotion or a raise. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You find yourself extra popular today as friends and even neighbors seek you out for help or advice. Go out shopping or browsing the local museums and art galleries so you can soak up the peace and calmness they offer. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Friends and family gather around you in love as you help to celebrate your wedding anniversary. Go out on the town and make a night of it as you revisit some of your favorite places from way back when. This is a chance for you two to get closer together. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A change in your work relations could have you out job hunt- ing today so be careful what you say and who you say it to. Stay cool and the changes that are being implemented should work out fine for you. A quiet evening at home is in order. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Is your visitor/freeloader still hanging on? This is the day you should tell it like it is as this person is never going to amount to anything if he/she is allowed to ride your pocketbook the way he/she has been doing now for weeks. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This is the day that your intuition kicks in big time and you find that you know things that are going to happen before they do. This would be a dandy time to pick some numbers for the lottery as games of chance are favored today. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 318, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (06:56)", "body": "It's not my wedding anniversery."}, {"response": 319, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (13:10)", "body": "I thought it peculiar that they put something as movable as a wedding anniversary in a horoscope...must be a just ordinary day for you otherwise, which is not a Bad Thing!"}, {"response": 320, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (13:42)", "body": "Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily The Capricorn Moon straps you into the seat of power for the next few days. You're ready to look the other way when a fair weather friend catches a ride on your good fortune. For now, there's enough to share. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Jupiter frowns and wags a mighty finger. You've gone over the line again. Fitting in seems like a punishment. You're free to think whatever you want, but it shouldn't influence your behavior right now. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily The natural world has a model for any situation that you could imagine. Look for the symbols, but don't let them do your thinking for you. A third party is highly impressed by how you handle things. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Disaster may not be inevitable, but you need to move with extreme caution. Get the highest value for each dollar that you spend. Look for the ideal upward trend to lift you out of here. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Perspective is an awesome tool when it works in your favor. The Capricorn Moon magnifies your little effort until you look like the star of the show. Share the glory, and nip any resentment in the bud. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily A former equal now seems to be the master of your fate. This is less fun than it used to be. You can leave at any time, although there's no guarantee that you can get back in if you change your mind. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Your position, though highly charged, is oddly neutral. You have time to make a decision -- if you're quick about it. Understand what you're doing before you try to explain it. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Enthusiasm is a fine thing, but it can produce some odd behavior when seen from the outside. Not everyone is having as much fun as you are. Put another person's needs ahead of your own. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The Capricorn Moon turns the tables on you in delightful ways. The matchmaker is matched with the candidate of his or her dreams. The biggest surprise is how surprised you are. This seemed so obvious. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Look for a ray of sunshine that will dissolve the black cloud over your head. Even a partial solution is better than none at all. Your home should be a source of security and contentment. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Even if it's someone else's idea or decision, you're the one who makes the wheels turn. Be a hero in your office or neighborhood. Hard work looks good and feels fine. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily There are no gray areas under the law. According to the Capricorn Moon, you're either doing it right or doing it wrong. Postpone a shopping trip that you can't really afford."}, {"response": 321, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (12:18)", "body": "April 26, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A hard driving life style may be tiring you out. Try to cut back on some of the projects that you have taken on so wil- lingly and have a complete medical checkup...by the way, taken any vitamins and minerals lately? TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may come across as the bull in the china shop in social situations today but on the dance floor you stun them all with your grace and poise. A bad dream may have you worried today but it is probably nothing more than the heavy meal you had the night before. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you make several starts and stops due to the fact that you cannot make up your mind and stick to it. Why not just putting all the decisions on the shelf today until you are feeling more positive. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Searching out the perfect fishing spot may be the most serious thing on your mind today as you enjoy a time of peace and leisure. Take along a good friend or your child to double your fun and enjoyment in your favorite sport. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A round of financial meetings may have you down today but the evening will bring you a nice surprise...so don't pass up the opportunity to attend that party for one of your favorite people tonight. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today is a day of forward looking for you as you near your goals of being your own boss, totally...You give your notice at work and then turn your attention to your favorite pass time, making money on the web. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A loved one may have you confused as the signals he/or she is sending is not consistent with the things being said. Best to let time sort this out before making a hard and fast commitment to this person; this one could be too insecure for you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Go easy on the spending today as you could blow the bank balance before you know it. Save some for a rainy day in case the clouds are gathering. A good friend may ask you for a loan today and since this person has always been good to repay you make the loan. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A moments indiscretion could tear down a lifetime of building that you have put into your relationship with someone, so if you haven't done it and you are only tempted, think twice, and then walk away. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Capricorns staid manner may not sit too well with a new love interest so it is best to re-evaluate the situation and look for someone who will be more appreciative of your wonderful characteristics. You have too much to offer to settle for less than the best. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Working with wayward youths in a group can bring the emotional fulfilment that you have been seeking as your guidance can make a difference in young lives. Make 'action' plans as this type of youngster likes to be doing something. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A new wardrobe for the Spring and Summer seasons is just the pick me up that you need today, so this would be a good day to spend going through the stores and finding just the right things...you know, shop 'til you drop. ----------------------------------------------------------- These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 322, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (12:26)", "body": "April 26, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Stay active and productive while you still have the maximum effect. If someone outside the loop wants your time, make an appointment for later in the week. You can't stand wasting any of the opportunities now available. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Maybe you're sick and tired of the current order, but how much better would chaos be? Find a balance between the necessary and the enjoyable. If you can't move forward, at least don't go back. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're like a messenger from another time or a different world. Novel ideas have practical applications in the lives of people who've never had your experience. They'll accept you once they stop laughing. Airies (March 21 - April 19) Daily Myth serves a positive function for a community struggling with harsh realities. Your choices may be limited, which makes the correct one all the more obvious. Don't hint at weaknesses to a watchful enemy. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily People understand that you're more than a resume or a recommendation. Fulfill the promise of your early potential. It's time to show that you're as skilled as you are lucky. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily If you're easily disappointed, maybe you expect too much. Others will do as they please, whether or not that pleases you. Work alone, and you'll have fewer complaints. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily A sudden jolt awakens you from your sleepwalk. Welcome back to your life, which is already in progress. Pick up the pace before someone else bumps into you. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Appearances are particularly important. Put a little spin and polish on your naked emotions. An employer, client or law enforcement official would prefer not to see anything out of the ordinary. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Your hands are nimble, and your eyes are quick and bright. You have the materials to create something even better than your plans require. Let the definition change with the events that shape it. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Good intentions and high hopes get you through a slow, dreary time. Everyone understands that a promise isn't the same thing as a delivery. You're sure to be honest today -- whether you like it or not. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Have fun proving yourself to people who will surely be impressed. You know the routine well enough to add a subtle dash of drama. This is one day's worth of praise that you can take to the bank. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Remember that childhood motto: 'Take what you want, but eat all you take.' Today's lesson has more to do with efficiency than moderation. Your goal should match your ability to reach it."}, {"response": 323, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:51)", "body": "Sure, ok."}, {"response": 324, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (21:44)", "body": "April 27, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) It is important that you maintain your sense of duty today. If you have children, there may be a greater emotional involvement in which you take the time to explore your relationship with them. Relationships with others take on a more fun-loving form. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may feel inclined to pursue a new hobby, or even enroll in a new class. So long as your mind can be stimulated. Some individuals will find that their intellectual stimu- lation is directed to an area of the law that involves some sort of principle. This law may be man made or natural, although the latter is more likely. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) This is a time when you should consider your role and activities among your peer group, the community or at work. Due to a natural charge of energy at this time, you may well succeed easier today. This energy does not mean that you should ignore your limitations and abilities. CANCER (June 22-July 22) If necessary, this is a good time to meditate on who and what you are, and to project yourself with a sense of purpose. This is also a time to have faith in who and what you are. So meditating on this, as well as bridging your internal levels of consciousness, will assist greatly. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Should you feel a need to exhibit certain personal items, it should be done with humility and a sense of sharing your pleasure. You could find yourself applying an extra effort into reinforcing some form of financial or material security, but you should not deny spiritual needs for material needs. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Try to personalize your relationships with certain people in a balanced way. By listening to and understanding others a greater harmony can be realized. There may be a sense of restlessness however, in which there is a need to study something new or a subject more seriously. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today tends to be a time during which are beset with nostalgia, which causes you to want to be with those who share your intimate personal life. If you have been unable to settle down, you may find yourself setting up a sound base for future activities. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Emotions may be numbed during this transit, making you feel somewhat isolated and lonely. It is better to concern yourself right now with the practicalities of life and work, rather than your emotions. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you will be concerned with meeting obligations and accepting responsibility. This puts you in a position to take on the tasks which you usually try to avoid. This will earn you recognition from your boss and others, even if you don't try to call attention to yourself. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) The kind of experiences that you may be subjected to today can depend on a variety of factors. Events that occur tend be either a test, or, an initiating energy designed to invoke change. A few people may be accident prone, but it is important to know that we create ac- cidents, they don't just happen. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your confidence could be high today. You will be able to organize and gather resources as required. Your relation- ship with managers and peers also shows much improvement. Your direction should also be clearer. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today you are feeling great and are looking out at the world optimistically. Everything you touch today will be a success. Changes will center around expansion. At the moment you probably want to do something extra- ordinary and are dreaming about exotic places."}, {"response": 325, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (05:43)", "body": "A real get down and get your hands dirty scope for today, sounds about like what today is cut out for."}, {"response": 326, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (13:10)", "body": "Mine sounds like my typical day on the Spring!"}, {"response": 327, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (13:19)", "body": "April 27, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily The picture blinks and wavers. A deadline approaches by the end of today. If you can force an eleventh hour victory, you'll secure a place in the history books. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Your rebellious spirit grows stronger with each passing hour. Maybe you can upset the apple cart and get away with it. The long term consequences aren't as important as the immediate satisfaction. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Faith is a common undercurrent even as the surface conditions change. As Bob Dylan sang, 'You don't need a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows.' Watch and wait from your position of strength. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Covert action may be necessary. You spot an opportunity that could vanish before you handle all the required paperwork. Desperation is a positive force when it changes things for the better. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily An apparent stroke of genius needs a second pair of eyes to determine if it's really worth anything. Stay confident even as you recognize that you can use some help. The real collaboration is about to begin. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily The tide is turning in your favor. You notice that an annoyingly familiar restriction has now vanished. Seize the change and quickly apply it to something positive. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Since you last checked in, a few more faces have appeared in the picture. Your role in a relationship has changed. Choose novelty over dismay. Have some fun with this while you're getting used to it. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Relax, tidy up and sigh with relief. An intrusive observer has evaluated your performance and moved on. Instances like these help you appreciate your freedom once you get it back. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The futurist nudges reality toward his or her ideal version. The perfectionist dreams of improving on that which needs no improvement. You're as restless as you are happy. It's a winning combination. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Sooner or later, grumpiness gets boring and goes out of style. If you don't figure it out for yourself, someone is sure to tell you, and maybe not so gently. Go to bed early and read yourself to sleep. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You have permission to make the improvements that seem so obvious and necessary. While you don't have to dedicate your work to those who made it possible, show the proper gratitude. At last you're free to get started. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily In memory, even a long hard bear hug becomes just a fleeting embrace. People come and go, but you carry your values with you on an unbreakable string. There's always a new challenge for your special skills."}, {"response": 328, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (22:36)", "body": "April 28, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today could bring you some good news regarding the health matters of a dear friend. You will have to work harder than usual today just to stay even but you manage quite nicely. Take a breather tonight and go out with a special someone just for fun. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Creative urges are still with you and you come up with a great idea for a web site. Don't let lack of skills hold you back, get some books and just start in doing it, it is easier than you think! Walk away from a spat with a loved one tonight. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Constantly changing your mind, or the on again off again syndrome, will not win you new friends, keep old ones, or influence people! :-) Make decisions and stick to them even about purchases...hey, you can always take them back later. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Getting settled into your new home has been a hassle for you but things will be looking up today and you may even be able to relax. Others will find irrita- tions on the job abating later in the day, and even- ing is rife with romance. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Getting your group together and making sure everybody is ready for the big weekend trip is your responsibility today but this is the kind of thing you shine at as your leadership qualitie is one of the best things you have going for you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Handing in your notice after all this time with the company, and going into business on your own, may seem just a wee bit scarey, but if anyone can make it work it is you. Keep spending down to a minimum until the dust clears and you are sure of your income. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) The right one has finally come along and snared Libra the lover. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you are doing the pursuing, not the other way around! This will be an ideal match for you as he/she will keep you on your toes. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You may not get that promotion that you have been seeking but the chances are good that an even better one will soon be open and the boss is secretly saving you for that position. Try not to be disappointed. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) It's been a long week and you can hardly wait for evening to come so you and friends or family can take off for your weekend getaway that has been in the works for a few days. Be sure to have the car checked before leaving so nothing will mar your fun. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) An elderly relative may have need of you this weekend and it would be a good thing to plan a visit. While you are gone you can go out in the evening and enjoy yourself with some old acquaintances. Make it a relaxing weekend. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You can't help being a helpful type of person as your enjoy- ment comes when others finally solve their problems. Today, though, you should spend some time on resolving your own martial problems that have been going on before they become set in cement. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A person greatly esteemed by you may do something today that undermines your good feelings about him/her. Don't take it to heart, after all, we are all human and make mistakes...Angels have wings and are in heaven. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 329, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (07:26)", "body": "Wow, the weekend getaway that I haven't even planned. It's more like weekend stayathome."}, {"response": 330, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (10:38)", "body": "perhaps it is to getaway from routine - though you do not seem to have one! You are Spring's Free Spirit! April 28, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Being safe spares you the trouble of being sorry. If there's any delay, it's because someone is fixing what should never have gone wrong -- but did. Maybe you should start looking for other flaws in the system. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Friday is the perfect time to rule the world. Your reputation helps make your strange ideas more believable. For the next few days, there are no foreigners or aliens. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're in an odd state of internal wealth, and you want to share it with everyone that you see. However, this is no guarantee that anyone will understand a word you say. Your heart is too big to be hurt by rejection. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Your dreams are bigger than you are, especially when others share them. Your voice is loud and you have a convincing vocabulary. You may be having a greater effect than you realize. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Expect a few peculiar, frustrating days. As long as you maintain a sense of humor, you'll find plenty of reasons to laugh. Perhaps it would be better not to consider the alternatives. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily The development phase is here, and the fun is just beginning. You whip up a unique blend of specialized knowledge and wildcard good luck. Leak a rumor or two to heighten the anticipation. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Others respect your need for solitude. Cancer knows how easy it is to get happily lost inside and never come out. Remember that, once you're ready for it, the external world holds endless riches for you. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Your only choice is honesty. Of course, saying what's on your mind could get you into as much trouble as lying about it. A loved one may have a surprise of his or her own. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily There are some things that even Virgo doesn't know how to do. Coworkers are supportive, and mistakes are instructive. You can brag about this after you've gotten through it in one piece. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Be brave in friendship and romance. Your perfect match is out there somewhere, whether or not they know that you're looking. A much anticipated flower finally blossoms. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily There's no direct, easy route to your destination. If you try to go in a straight line, you'll soon be off the road in some rough country. The good news is that you don't have to be alone in your search. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You're the bolt of lightning that drops from the sky on a calm, uneventful day. Whether or not they'll admit it, some people have been waiting for you to shake up their lives. Let the show begin."}, {"response": 331, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (10:44)", "body": "May Astrology guide The biggest of the astrological news occur at the beginning of the month as the spring time (Northern Hemisphere) breaks open with a rather large planet alignment -- seven of them -- all of the \"inner\" planets are going to be in one place, one slice, one thirty degree quadrant of the sky, for the briefest moment of time. What's this going to mean? It took minutes of meditation, a sojourn to Lockhart, Texas (BBQ Capitol of the World -- oh the things I do to write a decent horoscope), and a little bit of study to work this one out. The only planets who are not in Taurus would be Neptune and Uranus, in Aquarius, and the lone planet player, Pluto, over yonder in Sagittarius. For the folks so inclined, the important celestial sight doesn't really occur until the latter part of the month, after the planets sort themselves out a little bit. The important thing to see happens right before sun up as the Jupiter and Saturn conjunction is visible, and especially bright, in the last few days of the month. But their effect? It will already be happening by the time you see them. Aries : There is a tendency, especially with everything piled up in Taurus, to give into the typical (perhaps an incorrect assumption) that the things you use to define yourself, your material possessions, are more important than you really understand. Or maybe you're too attached to some things, and this is something that bears a little bit of close scrutiny. In the book that I've got, the quote is attributed to Tom Robbins, \"There's a certain, Buddha like calm that comes from having money in the bank.\" And that's the problem with this month, if you're sitting in a good position with material assets, you're one happy camper. And if you're not sitting happy, then you're sad. But money isn't everything. And material possessions don't really define who you are. So there you have it. You're going to go around and around with this riddle for the better part of the month, at one time or another. Jupiter is giving you a new cycle, but Saturn is laying down the law, as it were. At the end of the month, by the time the planets are really shaking things up, what you use to define your personal \"wealth\" is likely to be a lot different. And if you are so inclined, you know how to reach me in order to share some of your new found assets. Taurus : \"Spiritual Renewal\" is a handy buzz word for this month. It's also an escape clause, like a cheap way to avoid what's really at hand right now. So let's look at this month's planet line up: the beginning of the month finds the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus Mars, Jupiter and Saturn lined up in your sign. By the end of the month, a new cycle has started and yet, you still have Jupiter and Saturn doing their \"up close and personal\" thing in your sign. It means it's the start of a new cycle. While Saturn often restricts movement, Jupiter enhances it, so you're going to be pushed and pulled at the same time. Months like May, Year 2000 (conventional calendar) are a good time to consider why I like living in a trailer so much. I could, at a moments notice, hitch the trailer up to a truck and be gone. No that this is a likely scenario for me, or for you, but the idea is appealing. So I'm not sure that you really want to uproot yourself right now, my trailer has a patio, landscaping, a permanent mailing address, a couple of phone lines, you get the idea... and in a similar vein, you're rather firm about what you stand for, too. So I don't know that you're really going to \"move\" but you are going to reconsider the position of the place you're in. Consider a special form of Taurus-only \"spiritual renewal,\" but come up with your very own definition. Gemini : Just about every Gemini chart I have ever looked at has some planets arrayed in other signs. Like the sign right before you: Taurus. So even though there's this great upheaval of celestial events in Taurus, my wager is that you're not going to get the worst of this, not by a long shot. And there's also something nice about the Gemini lightening quick adaptability. Remember, there are those who have called you \"flaky\" in the past, and those very same detractors are going to wish that they could be as highly mobile and adaptive as you're going to be. The first of the big stuff in Taurus doesn't upset you too much, but as the month develops, first Mars, then Venus, then your little ruling orb, Mercury, all come slamming into your space. It's a good sign because the long term effects of the Taurus pile up suddenly kick into high gear for you. Time to do something about what's going on. And once again, my most excellent Gemini, your innate and adaptable nature is going to be called upon in order to save the day [this month.] Cancer : The first time I was gripped with stage fright, I discovered that a unique blend of herbs, spices and suitable mind altering substances helped ease my pain. I'm afraid the blend didn't do much for the show, and ever since, I've been "}, {"response": 332, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (11:05)", "body": "April 29, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): You are creating tension by worrying about deadlines and results. Let all that go and focus on taking action moment by moment. Before too long, you'll be finished. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You are looking to better yourself and improve your circumstances. Today, stay close to people who can help you directly, or associate with people whose example will show you how to succeed. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your 15 minutes of fame are a test to see how you handle it. It's too soon to overestimate your importance. Cultivate a good image and then grow into it as a reality. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Job and career issues can be on your mind today. You may be considering whether you're in the field that's giving you happiness and fulfillment. Counseling can help you zero in on the changes you must make. LEO (July 23-August 22): Financial downturns can hit you hard today. Investment losses may become more apparent now. Some may be pressed to pay money due on income taxes. Don't splurge because your money is needed elsewhere. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): Expect a shift in relation- ships today. Your usual associates go into the background as different ones become important. It's important to be exposed to new groups without jeopardizing old associations. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): You experience trouble co- ordinating team efforts today. Someone's not pulling their weight leaving you to do more. You may have to take cor- rective action instead of letting it go. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): The right moves can increase your valuable contacts. Move closer to the people who are important to you. Let bygones be bygones and restart from a positive perspective. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): You're apt to suffer a break with the past. This may be little more than breaking a bad habit, but for some a personal relationship could end. Fill a sense of emptiness with something new. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): You're prone to rest on your laurels and coast on your good luck. Use this as an elevated baseline for even greater achievements. If you can get motivated, you can work wonders! AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Heed your intuitions about revamping your budget. Make your finances support your long-terms goals, which are themselves undergoing redefinition. Save your money, even if you can't say what for. PISCES (February 19-March 20): Respect for your position can be at stake today. Give a good example of the right use of power to increase respect. Abuse of power, just because I can, only confirms any simmering resentment. ------------------------------------------------------------ These interpretations are based on the aspects and positions of the planets in relation to each Sun-sign. They are intended to indicate the general mood and issues of the day as you experience them. Be creative in applying your forecast to the actual circumstances of your life. --- By D.Donovan Kinsolving United Press International"}, {"response": 333, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (11:09)", "body": "April 29, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily An old agreement was struck before the current data came to light. Strategy is once again an issue. Not everybody is happy with your need to be realistic. Choose your words carefully. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You're highly visible and an obvious example. The official channels are bypassed. Take your discoveries straight to the people. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily It's not what you're saying but your style of delivery that has people so confused. Render all those ideas into a form that doesn't require your conversational explanation. You relish the thought of working in solitude. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily A debate is not an argument. Friends engage in intellectual sport just to broaden their minds. Once you pass the field test, it's easier to be ready for the real thing. (April 20 - May 20) Daily You may make a bigger mess than you can afford. Just a few wise decisions save your dignity and sanity. As strange as the future may look, you still control your own little corner of it. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Someone is easily persuaded, and that person will never look back from this momentous day. If you're the convert, you make your choice with clear eyes and an easy heart. The same old world is suddenly new and better. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You need your space and will take unusual measures to secure it. If friends and neighbors won't leave you alone, go to a place where you're unknown. A change of scenery might even bring you out of yourself. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Life becomes easier when you accept that circumstances are beyond your control. Surrender gives you the freedom to improvise. Everyone around you is treated to a wild ride. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Watch how you act, because it might send a different message from what you're saying. You're allowed to leave if things get ugly or impenetrable. There are better times to start over, but you can still do it now if you really want. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Education and the creative urge are inseparable. Small groups of people are the living embodiment of a work in progress. You can read volumes of human history in every face that you see. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You're almost ready to admit defeat. The people best equipped to help are the ones whose help you least appreciate. It's time to set aside those moth-eaten old grudges in the name of practicality. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily All reasons and excuses are perfectly acceptable. You're here to encourage, not to judge. You start to see light shedding its light on the advantages and options at your fingertips."}, {"response": 334, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (13:00)", "body": "My Birthday is Macaroon day - and I am allergic to coconut *sigh* MAY IS... May is... Better Sleep Month. May is... National Salad Month. May is... National Egg Month. May is... National Barbecue Month. May is... Date Your Mate Month. May is... Fungal Infection Awareness Month. May 1 is... Mother Goose Day and Save The Rhino Day. May 2 is... Fire Day. May 3 is... Lumpy Rug Day. May 7 is... National Roast Leg of Lamb Day. May 9 is... Lost Sock Memorial Day. May 11 is... Twilight Zone Day. May 13 is... Leprechaun Day. May 14 is... National Dance Like A Chicken Day. May 15 is... National Chocolate Chip Day. May 19 is... Frog Jumping Jubilee Day. May 23 is... Penny Day. May 24 is... National Escargot Day. May 26 is... Grey Day. May 29 is... End Of The Middle Ages Day. May 30 is... My Bucket's Got A Hole In It Day. May 31 is... National Macaroon Day."}, {"response": 335, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "May 31st is also the anniversary of the Johnstown Flood, which happened on May 31, 1889."}, {"response": 336, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (15:13)", "body": "I guess I should celebrate by drinking Susquehanna River water and eating macaroons. I dated a guy from Johnstown while I was in college and my ex is now living in its flood plain in central Pennsylvania. They have short memories there! But, I have seen the levees they built and the steel flood gates. Most impressive."}, {"response": 337, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (15:35)", "body": "Not a good way to celebrate your birthday, unless you want to great the month of June being indisposed; i.e., sick. You're allergic to coconut, and they still let you live in Hawaii? That's almost as bad as being lactose intolerant, hence never eating cheese, and living in Wisconsin. So Marcia, on your birthday maybe you could eat some pineapple and spam, with a few macadamia nuts later. That way when the month of June arrives you can quote Browning, \"...God's in his heaven/All's right with the world.\""}, {"response": 338, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (15:46)", "body": "There you go! The perfect solution. Actually, I can eat coconut, Hawaiian style with no adverse effects. They grate young coconuts whose flesh is just firm enough to do so, and squeeze it through cheesecloth to obtain true \"coconut milk\" (the stuff you pour out of an older coconut is coconut water!) The \"milk\" is thickened with arrowroot or cornstarch and flavored with a little sugar and vanilla. Left to set in the fridge, it is a lovely cool refreshing way to end a luau meal. I shall eat it that way. Oh, it also makes a super topping for a cake!"}, {"response": 339, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "You can top your birthday cake with it!"}, {"response": 340, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (16:03)", "body": "Indeed! Or someone can buy me one like that. They are a specialty of a local bakery and so tender and moist as to make it melt almost before it gets into one's mouth (and I am getting hungry!)"}, {"response": 341, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (16:09)", "body": "The resident hairy chest pounder, perhaps?"}, {"response": 342, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 29, 2000 (16:12)", "body": "That was my thought, but considering he is borderline diabetic, we just do not keep sweet things around the house. However, I might opt for a nice juicy prime-rib dinner out and a piece of Haupia (that's what it's called) all by itself."}, {"response": 343, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (10:37)", "body": "Cancer You're happy to mind your own business, but it's hard not to be curious about others. It may be impossible to shut your ears when the person in the next room is talking on the phone, but that's a good time to get up and take a break from what you're doing. Eavesdropping can cause a lot of misunderstandings when the Moon is in Pisces. When you presume to know what someone else is thinking, you may be right. Let go of an old grudge once and for all. Sagittarius You've been working extremely hard lately, Sagittarius, and today you feel like slowing down the pace a bit. As the Moon moves through the house of Pisces, give yourself permission to be lazy! Go to the movies or rent some good videos. Mix in some new experiences with old ones whose lines you know by heart. You're perfectly happy alone if you can't find others willing to play your game. Get to bed as early as possible to prepare for the week ahead. InfoSpace.com Horoscopes"}, {"response": 344, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (13:14)", "body": "You never post Gemini...why? Wolfie and I are both gemin....*sigh* I am happy that you include Caner, though...*smile* Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Your latest creative project is on the right track. Others are eager to see what you're doing, even if it's not ready for prime time. Today's feedback helps you steer even closer to where you want to be. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Even you can feel the ripples of what was supposed to be someone else's change. Live with what's happened, and thrive on what it brings you. The Pisces Moon can still be your friend. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You feel divine. Not everyone subscribes to your godlike powers, but they certainly recognize that something great is going on within your personal space. Rather than helping others, it's time to help yourself. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily The intangible plays a significant role in your life. A skeptic is harder than usual to convince. Patience is a virtue that, if you don't have it yet, you'd better quickly cultivate. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Your dreaming and waking worlds intersect in a glorious, timeless moment. There's no point in congratulations or blame. Everyone around you gets to taste the strange and wonderful. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Gemini, normally confident, is wavering. The Pisces Moon makes you doubt your instincts. Others question your sincerity. Do the least acceptable amount until this phase passes. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You can find a million excuses to have fun. Grab the nearest, best offer, and run with it. Yes, it's okay to run with it inside the house, if that's where your mood takes you. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily As the muddy water settles, you see that you've been exploring a shallow pool. Make your excuses as diplomatically as possible. You really should be spending your time on something that matches your talents. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You're moved by wild forces, which is fine if you like wild forces. Accuracy happens more by accident than by design. As long as you're in Rome, you might as well do as the Romans. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily The community becomes an element of your self-image. It really matters what other people are thinking. The Pisces Moon interrupts what had been a smooth flow of events. Prepare yourself for the next few days. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Reality crashes through the door before you're ready. Miracles happen in their own time. Come as you are. Nobody will notice whether or not you're presentable. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Check your stock and update your files. The information that you thought was current is now strictly old school. Someone may explain it once, but don't expect much patience from those in the know."}, {"response": 345, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (00:15)", "body": "May 1, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Keeping a low profile today will work for most people but not you. This is the time you need to get out there and sell your abilities to the highest bidder, in other words this is an ideal time to upgrade to a better job or a newer position. Sometimes just the seeking of new employ- ment will cause the boss to 'get up off the dime' TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) You have the capabilities it takes to go far in your line of expertise and you make the most of your opportunities today. On other fronts, someone out there may be thinking they are too old to learn something new, but that is far from the truth, the only important thing in this enter- prise is your sharp, active mind. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You have studied the net, the businesses, html coding, and finally found an idea that you feel you can excel in only to realize the thing has been 'done to death'. That does not matter, your ideas may be better than anyone else's, you can take a small idea and enlarge on it; competition only whets your appetite for excellence. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Don't spin your wheels today with a loved one as it is almost a sure bet that you will not be given 'house room' in his or her thoughts, wait until the excitement dies down and then you will be able to calmly talk out your differences. Patience has its own rewards. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Parting company with a partner could get disastrous for your finances and the business so maybe it would be a better idea to concede a few points instead of losing the ball game. You may even grow to like the ideas he or she presents you with when you remove antagonism from the picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) A new partnership could get off on the wrong foot if you do not draw up some papers to legalize it. Leaving some- thing like this to chance could be disastrous for a sur- viving partner. New designs and ideas are beginning to take hold and you will soon see some positive results. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) A personal relationship may have you stressed to the max., and this would be a good day to plan to take a short trip over the coming weekend in order to get some distance between you and your problem. Once you can see the forest and not just a few trees, you will have it well in hand. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You are full of charm and wit today and you will find people are more open and receptive to you and your ideas. Make the most of this day by going after what you want in the job market, for today you will get it. Home based ideas also look good. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) A weekend getaway is favored for you and a loved one. If a loved one can't go, ask a friend to go along and double your fun. Work today is mainly routine and you could get off fairly early which will give you a head start on this beautiful weekend. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Following your intuition will be a wise thing to do today as a strong urge, or feeling that you really should be somewhere, could put you in the right place at just the right time. If you are single this could lead to a wonder- ful romance and lifelong love affair. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) A small tiff on the job may put your employment in jeopardy but the truth wills out and you are cleared. Evening will bring a small disappointment that will lead to a greater satisfaction if you follow your heart on this matter. Listen to a friend tonight. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Unexpected help from behind the scenes go in your favor today as you are given an on the spot promotion due to the actions of a certain person. A loved one will need all your attention tonight to keep him or her from mak- ing a life shattering mistake. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 346, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (12:12)", "body": "May 1, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You surprise someone who expected little of you. For now, it's fun to play a game that you know you'll always win. Once the first flush of victory wears off, consider a challenge more worthy of your skills. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Stand up and put your foot down. Things have gone far enough in a direction that you don't like. The first step won't be easy, but you can't afford to wait another day. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily There's music in the water and magic in the air. You have unlimited access to the people, objects or activities that you find most precious. Your biggest secret is that there's no secret at all -- just try to explain that one. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily It only looks as though you're doing nothing. Stealth and strategy are vital if you hope to accomplish anything. Others will accept self-interest as a motive, as long as you're reasonable about it. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You feel like dancing around the May pole, festive ribbon firmly in hand. Regeneration begins with a shared ritual. Doing what's absolutely necessary can still be fun. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Education has its place, but knowledge without perspective can lead to mistakes. Now that you've decoded the secret message, it's time to figure out why it was sent. If others don't care, you may be on your own. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily A great mystery beckons. Through curiosity and daring, you're ready to boldly go where no Crab has gone before. Despite all the excitement, you stay calm and comfortable. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Leo's week begins in a sour mood. You can't see why there's such a big fuss. As you separate the real from the counterfeit, remember that other people are allowed to have their sense of wonder. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The fruits of your labor are truly a bumper crop. The harvest is far too big for one person to handle. Expand your operation cautiously. This bounty could fade away just as quickly as it appeared. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily How can anybody work when the workers are all busy celebrating? Like the other Fire and Air signs, you see others as little more than wet blankets. For now, stop complaining and take care of yourself. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Now that it's May Day, Spring is unquestionably here. The natural world teases you with its brilliance and wealth. Surrender to the animal within you. Your gifts will soon become obvious. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Be careful what you lose. If something disappears, it could be a sign that you were never meant to have it. It's important that you seem competent and in control to the person who evaluates your behavior."}, {"response": 347, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (13:45)", "body": "May 2, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Your problem is still with you, but now you can see what's causing it. Instead of giving way to anger or regret, swing into action. You'll be most effective if you stop when you get tired. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Turn those persuasive powers on your own stubborn prejudice. You may have more in common with an opponent than with an ally. Live the life that someone in a previous age would never have dared. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily It's hard to think about the future when the present is so overwhelming. Still, the consequences of your actions should be obvious. Don't let blind passion play its tricks on you. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You feel enormously better as the shadows drop away. Success attracts success. Your plan is wide open for any profitable variation that makes a natural fit. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Fight the trend toward faster, cheaper and more. You're interested in quality instead of sheer volume. Resist the pull of the Aries Moon and do it your way. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You have a lot on your mind, and you're willing to apply it in the most useful way. Professional projects flourish in a relaxed, friendly climate. Students are receptive to complex new ideas. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily It seems as if you're pushing against a door that won't open. Consider changing employers or vendors, but wait before acting on this idea. Things may change when someone senses that you've had enough. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Forgive yourself for a secret victimless crime. The sooner you move on, the more excellent opportunities you'll encounter. As you move, you might notice that others are beginning to follow. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You've let an old mistake occupy the center for too long. In your case, setting things to rest will require a few apologies and explanations. Talking it out helps improve your own understanding. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily The Aries Moon spotlights an important relationship. Unsaid words must finally be spoken. Be optimistic, even in the face of defeat or embarrassment. The best outcome is still possible. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Freedom is a two-edged sword. You'd be wrong to assume that someone else would do exactly the same thing if he or she stood in your shoes. An ongoing dialogue helps everyone understand a little better. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You can be a little selfish and still be cute. People assume that your quirks and flaws are just part of the show. Apologies may be necessary around other Sagittarians, but otherwise you're golden."}, {"response": 348, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (13:50)", "body": "May 2, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): You're feeling squeezed today, but only if your haven't laid the basis for having options. Your motives are tied in to your ability to achieve; seek to be of service first. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Selfishness feels like it's not enough today. Heed your call to join with something higher than yourself. You sense that what you alone have is not enough; pooled resources are more effective. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Be certain that your companions are supportive of your intentions today. The wrong company can just as easily side-track you away from what you know you must do. CANCER (June 21-July 22): You can find that your own goals and priorities deserve to be placed above others' today, not from selfishness but from intrinsic merit. The more people who benefit from your actions, the better. LEO (July 23-August 22): You are called upon to make personal sacrifices for a greater good today. A private relationship can suffer when you're called away for professional reasons. Make your exit as gracious as possible. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): The hold of the past can begin loosening up today; you can at least get an idea of where you should be headed in life, but it requires breaking away from the familiar into the unknown. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): Government at any level gets your attention today. You scrutinize how elected or appointed officials exercise their power. Are they performing their duties wisely, or at all? They answer to you. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): Your financial investments are important today. Be careful how you're handling someone else's money, either directly of through a loan. Invest another's money as if it were your own. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): Conscientiousness and dependability are virtues to cultivate today. Your health and diet should be attended in order to promote your vigor and effectiveness in all areas of life. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): Your influence on your children should be subtle but firm today. Let them make their own decisions, but be ready to help them if they get into trouble. Be a helpful guide, not an overseer. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): It's no time to wait for others. When you see something needs to be done, take responsibility and do it yourself. Establish your own ground- rules and procedures instead of being told what to do. PISCES (February 19-March 20): You feel like there's no time to lose today, but don't the rush interfere with your common sense. Your intensity can make you skip steps, rush too far ahead unprepared, or endanger your health. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 349, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (17:34)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Don't look a gift horse in the mouth today, just count your blessings and say thank you. Family comes first with you today, and all the other days as well, and you take the necessary time to help a family member; that makes a big difference in their life. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Speaking of horses, you may have an occasion to make a bet today but you will be wise to turn it down as this does not seem to be your lucky day for games of chance, or risk taking. Friends will come to your rescue after nightfall. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) The twins are wading in high cotton today as some of the investments you made a while ago begins to pay off for you; at last your ship is on the horizon. A friend is going to need you and your white horse tonight, so like Sir Galahad, or Joan of Arc, you show up in the nick of time. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) It will take courage to hold up and withstand some of the things that life and/or Mother Nature can throw at you and you do very well in holding your own today. Remember that to an adult a child's problems are next to nothing, but to the child they are nearly devastating, help where you can. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Keep up, and add to, yesterdays good work and head start that you have given yourself, your excellence has not gone unnoticed by your superiors. Tonight would be a good time for a social get together with some friends and spend the evening just enjoying yourself, let the worries wait. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) If you be a good person in your own right, which you are, the only thing anyone can say about you will be good things and what a powerful witness for you unto God that will make. Try to catch up with work early tonight and spend some rime with the family. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Travel will figure prominently in your plans today but don't be surprised if your itinerary gets changed about just a bit by your passenger. Friends will be over to see you off and wish you luck. A telephone call sets you on the way. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A quarrel at work could cause some hard feelings and bad working conditions unless you step in and set things right again. Your leadership shines through when they are more than glad to follow your directions. A situation at home may also call for your special touch. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) You have always prided yourself on being a friend in need and a friend indeed whether or not you were shown the same consideration yourself. Today you long for something more, some little thing that will show some people are glad of, and appreciate your help; a simple thank you would do the trick. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Don't let worries and money problems bog you down and stall your engine of progress. It is time to think of career moves, job opportunities, and/or higher learning or a training update. Don't despair, you have a lot of potential so live up to it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Depression only does one thing for the person who is carrying it around on their shoulders, it makes them depressed. Now, have you ever seen a more useless thing to haul about? Shake it lose and get on with the rest of your life. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Broken hearts do hurt, and sometimes they last a lifetime. The lifetime ones last only because the person allows the pain to hang around and bedevil him or her. Love has to be a two way proposition for it to work out as a permanent thing and I bet you can find it, soon, if you don't quit looking. http://www.astrology-online.com/daily.htm"}, {"response": 350, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (18:06)", "body": "Hmmm...curious one: Gemini (May 21-June 21) Image: \"In a sunny park, 3 young girls playing jump rope\" Message: Celebration, belonging, trust. Social messages and new group invitations are on the rise this week, Gem. Sunday through Tuesday watch for friends or co-workers to quickly establish new social routines and explore fresh forms of entertainment. This is a strong time to begin new friendships, Gem, or take on extra educational course work. Many Geminis will now, and over the next 6 days, experience a steady broadening of social options. Don't hold back, Gem: recent home tensions or family stress are now due to fade. Late Wednesday afternoon watch also for a rare financial opportunity or dramatically expanded business project. Some Geminis, especially those born early in June, will now be asked to double their efforts in the workplace. Don't hesitate to adopt new attitudes and duties, Gem: others will this week expect a quick and decisive response to new proposals."}, {"response": 351, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (18:08)", "body": "For the week of May 1-7, 2000 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Image: \"At a busy mint, a silver press stamping out coins\" Message: Creating wealth. This week, Cancer, subtle new career options may arrive. Pay close attention to the hints, gestures or quick announcements of authority figures. Over the next 5 to 6 days many Cancerians may be asked to adopt a more public approach to business relationships or address new marketing and advertising concerns in the workplace. Wait for added information or assignments to arrive later this month, Cancer: much of this may develop slowly in the weeks to come. Late Tuesday morning watch also for a powerful wave of romantic attraction and business creativity to arrive. Some Cancerians, especially those born prior to 1974, may now experience a dramatic need for unique thinking or artistic awareness in the workplace. Romantic relationships will also be affected, Cancer: before next week expect loved ones to now plan unusual events or quietly seductive evenings. An exciting week, Cancer: enjoy! For the week of May 1-7, 2000 Libra (September 23-October 23) Image: \"At a summer festival, clowns, jugglers and giggling children\" Message: Joining in. Love affairs and subtle flirtations will have a strong emotional appeal this week, Libra. Fresh social attitudes or public romantic overtures will now draw friends or potential mates into your inner circle, Libra: expect quick invitations and renewed social interest over the next 5 to 6 days. Some Librans, especially those born before October 15th, may also experience the return of a past colleague or cancelled work project. If so, Libra, expect fast money complications here but long term success. In the coming few weeks, LIbra, business success and workplace respect can be gained by attending quickly to the unfinished projects of the past. Past financial issues or firmly set policies may also have a strong influence: watch for key officials to now publically challenge new ideas, suggestions or requests. Expect surprising reversals, Libra: important decisions from authority figures may now be delayed. For the week of May 1-7, 2000 Sagittarius (November 23-December 21) Image: \"At a crowded church service, a crystal bell gently ringing\" Message: Hearing the truth. For the next few days, Sage, private moments in key relationships may be both intensely seductive and emotionally confusing. Expect loved ones or new romantic partners to offer scattered passions and mixed social signals: vulnerability, self reflection and powerful attraction may now be a theme. Remain patiently attentive, Sage: at present, others may need to clarify their actions, plans or social obligations. Tuesday through Thursday also accent quick family changes or home discussions. Key areas of concern may be competing social plans between relatives, cancelled events or ongoing changes to home routines. Before next week rest and gain perspective, Sage: minor power struggles in the home or long held romantic doubts will soon fade. http://www.mysticstars.net/files/weeklies.html"}, {"response": 352, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (21:47)", "body": "May 3, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is a good day for attending to financial affairs and finalizing loans. You will experience a certain amount of superiority to those around you but be very careful that it remains your secret, else you will put people off from you that you need as boosters. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) The irresistible force finally meets the immovable object today as you stand your ground and get your points in and across at the same time. In this case a firm stand is the only thing that is ever going to work, that or packing up and leaving. You must make the decision. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Life does not have to be so confused and confusing, take a page from a great author and \"simplify, simplify\". Intrigue is fine if you are a spy, but it can get pretty boring to a spouse who already suspects you of cheating; best to cool the cloak and dagger stuff for a while. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Always helpful to other people and don't feel that the powers that be will help you? Try closely following your dreams and the symbolism found in them for your own help and guidance, you will be amazed. It is done unto you even as you believe. Simple fact. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) It is not like Leo to complain but today you seem to be locked in to it. Friends may not want to stick around and help if they hear only a stream of complaints. Change the subject and keep the help for your pet project. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) A promise made a couple of months ago is now due to be fulfilled so don't hesitate as this person is nervous enough about what the near future may hold, and at the present time yours is the only lifeline that has been offered. You follow through and set this persons mind at ease. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) It may not be too late to convince someone that you deserve a second chance as this person is truly in love with you, and if you make your statements of promise with love and caring then you will see a wonderful transformation; this time keep your promises. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your web design ideas are smokin' and this is a good time to implement them as action is called for at this stage of the game; new ideas will come as needed. Others will find they have very creative ideas on ways to increase their incomes at this time. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Family problems take precedence over all else today and you go a long way toward solving most of them. Some problems must be worked out and solved by the owner of the situation, no matter how much you want to help you will not be able to. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Helping a friend stay out of trouble is the main thing that concerns you as you set about changing things for this person; remember, this person must desire all the changes you are helping to bring about or all your efforts will dissolve away like quicksilver through your fingers. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) A happy day for you as you greet a family member that you have not seen for years. You are more than happy to see this person so you open your home to him or her for as long as they care to stay. All the news from home puts the icing on your cake. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) An old flame rekindles the sparks in your life and you dare to hope again about this person. The chances are good that this time is right for the two of you to make a go out of what is most assuredly a big case of romantic love, on both sides."}, {"response": 353, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (04:46)", "body": "Wonder what today's will be?"}, {"response": 354, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (13:01)", "body": "look above...and here is another: May 3, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily It's strategically wise to expect the worst, but your imagination could take you too far. Get some perspective from a loved one. Daylight adds rich highlights to dark colors. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You can work your magic with the simplest of materials. You feel like revealing your secrets, even if the world isn't quite ready to hear them. Be aware of other people's comfort levels. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You busily await something that might not be ready to happen for a long time. Look rationally at the choices that are now available. By tomorrow, this decision may have been made for you. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You think that you know what's best for everyone. Maybe you're right, but there are kind and gentle ways to show it. Instead of intimidating, lead by inspiration. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You're not exactly in hiding, but neither are you taking on any new business. In order to finish what you've started in a proper and timely manner, your focus must be unwavering. The fun part comes later. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily A traveler returns with exciting souvenirs or videos. All at once, an embryonic hypothesis is confirmed. Move into a new medium while it's still receptive to outsiders. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You're stuck in the midweek doldrums, far from land with no breeze. If you have the choice, you might want to take a nap. Without this convenience, you might as well grab the oars and start rowing. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Students and teachers are roles that go far beyond the academic setting. The world seems flooded with knowledge. Giving and receiving manifest in all kinds of relationships. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You've been here before, and that makes your comfortable. Your comfort has a price, however. One small annoying change now is worth several big, painful changes further down the road. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily A change in perspective shows that your goal is no closer than it was before. It's time to draw on resources that you wouldn't normally use. Remember the lessons about how to handle a tricky new magic. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Wrap your strange reasoning in the most polite terms that you have. You'd be wise to avoid all delicate subjects for a little while. Work alone, if that's what it takes to smooth the bumps. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Creativity is an equal opportunity employer. Stick with the crowd that can work and play at the same time. You don't want to step on anyone's toes, although accidents do happen. Watch out where you dance."}, {"response": 355, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (14:37)", "body": "OK, I'll watch where I dance."}, {"response": 356, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (14:42)", "body": "Always the tactful gentleman...*smile*"}, {"response": 357, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (21:01)", "body": "May 4, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you may find Murphy\"s law kicking in as you seem to pass under the umbrella of forgetfulness. Getting lost searching for someplace may also befall you. All in all, a good day to stay home. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Thought of a reform is taking place in your mind and you may miss out on the fun if you pursue it. A friend from out of town drops around and you talk him out of staying in a motel. It is easy to have fun when your heart is in the right place. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Keep yourself feeling good by concentrating on a full excerize regimen and diet so that you will look well for the employees. You may recieve sums of money today from and unsuspected source. A good day to start your shopping spree for Christmas . CANCER (June 22-July 22) Cancer gets a break today in the love category as the person that you have been seeing is ready to answer in the affirmative ; go ahead an pose the question. Give your budget a break today and put that shopping trip off for a day or two when you are in better con- trol of your finances. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Be sure to put romance high on your list of priorities today as you make time for all the things you must cram into one busy day. Children may give your heart a rough time today you will find that things are not as bad as they looked at first. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Working through your personal goals today could keep you busy right up to the afternoon. Some of the goals will have to be raised as there are a few that you have reached already. Be kind to strangers today, it pays in the long run. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A long drive in the country or a relaxing day with a good book could be just what the doctor ordered for you today in order to settle your nerves. A business partner can be picky today but you stand your ground and this person sees your point of view. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This is not a good day to initiate changes in the work place or to be critical of family and friends. They won't like you for it and you could wind up spending the whole day alone with your thoughts. An old flame burns brightest the second time around! SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Don't be a volunteer at work today as you have more than enough of your own work and responsibilities and do not need to take on a coworkers. Today is an ideal time for doing things together as a family, all members will benefit from the special closeness this offers. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today you will find that the classes you have been taking along with your diligent study habits begin to pay off for you in a big way. Try to project a positive attitude at work today and you will have the boss eating out of your hand. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Making a public statement today about private matters may not sit too well with someone so be sure you talk it out before going public. Keep up your savings ac- count even though Christmas spending puts a dent in other finances; don't be tempted to spend too much. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) The extra cash you get today could be quickly spent if you are not conservative from the get go. You find your- self in a great mood today as your personal progress serves to bouy your spirits and your outlook on life in general. A Capricorn lover can be grumpy tonight."}, {"response": 358, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (13:48)", "body": "May 4, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Open your eyes to the miracles that constantly happen around you. You need to reinvent the art of having fun, and the sooner the better. Surprise the daylights out of people who are sure that you've forgotten them. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily For those unclear on the concept, more words won't help. Stop talking so much and find another way to demonstrate your point. Be aware, too, that you might have to admit defeat in pursuit of a lost cause. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Sing along with an unfamiliar tune. The road beneath your feet becomes clearer and smoother with each step. Compose love letters in your head, quoting them occasionally to friends and strangers alike. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You're restless, but in a good way. You're ready to help things change by any means at your disposal. Today's energy is worth a lot to the people who will benefit from it. You can probably charge a higher rate. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You can make the story come out any way that you please. Illustrate with your best colors. Underline with your favorite music. All your characters will soon realize who's really in charge. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You feel excluded from a development that excites others. If you want to keep up, you should be familiar with the subject matter. The wording may have changed, but the rules are still the same. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily The Taurus Moon puts you at or near the center. Your wit is quick, and your appeal is universal. Use your subtle forces to guide an aimless drift. People may feel your influence without being aware of just what you're doing. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Bite your tongue. Curb your appetite. The Taurus Moon brings you a message of restraint. Although you know your subject thoroughly, only a succinct overview is necessary to make your point. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Your spirit stirs, or maybe it's your inner philosopher reflecting happily on the way things are going. You're satisfied with the way you look. You win an influential seal of approval. There's a good reason for all this. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Generosity can be exhausting. You may be living in and for this moment, but what about the one that comes next, and the one after that? Save something for yourself so that you can give again on another day. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Your actions affect more people than you may realize. Try not to be offended by an event that steals your thunder. The Libra presence in your Starcast demands that you take a broader view. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You're faced with a wall of stubbornly crossed arms and a hall of locked doors. The Taurus Moon impedes your progress in almost every way that you can imagine. If possible, think about something else for a while."}, {"response": 359, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (15:20)", "body": "OK I will think of something else when I take care of few things today."}, {"response": 360, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (17:29)", "body": "Not much of a horoscope is it?! Find a good book, post on the Spring (Yay!!!)or DX - I posted information about it just this morning... You have great options. I am going to the All-Sports Banquet this evening, the Baseball one on Friday after the game, then to Kona to watch them play there. Busy time in Hilo!"}, {"response": 361, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, May 5, 2000 (08:08)", "body": "How do you hop around all these islands? Boat? Plane? Outrigger?"}, {"response": 362, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 5, 2000 (13:31)", "body": "Plane is the only intrastate highway we have. They run regular schedules, but it still costs about $100 to get to and from Honolulu from Hilo. On each Island, car is the only way. Outrigger?! The Molokai channel is one of the roughest places in the world for boats. So is the Alenuihaha channel between us and Maui due to the high mountains on either side. May 5, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Keeping a low profile today will work for most people but not you. This is the time you need to get out there and sell your abilities to the highest bidder, in other words this is an ideal time to upgrade to a better job or a newer position. Sometimes just the seeking of new employ- ment will cause the boss to 'get up off the dime' TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) You have the capabilities it takes to go far in your line of expertise and you make the most of your opportunities today. On other fronts, someone out there may be thinking they are too old to learn something new, but that is far from the truth, the only important thing in this enter- prise is your sharp, active mind. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You have studied the net, the businesses, html coding, and finally found an idea that you feel you can excel in only to realize the thing has been 'done to death'. That does not matter, your ideas may be better than anyone else's, you can take a small idea and enlarge on it; competition only whets your appetite for excellence. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Don't spin your wheels today with a loved one as it is almost a sure bet that you will not be given 'house room' in his or her thoughts, wait until the excitement dies down and then you will be able to calmly talk out your differences. Patience has its own rewards. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Parting company with a partner could get disastrous for your finances and the business so maybe it would be a better idea to concede a few points instead of losing the ball game. You may even grow to like the ideas he or she presents you with when you remove antagonism from the picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) A new partnership could get off on the wrong foot if you do not draw up some papers to legalize it. Leaving some- thing like this to chance could be disastrous for a surviving partner. New designs and ideas are beginning to take hold and you will soon see some positive results. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) A personal relationship may have you stressed to the max., and this would be a good day to plan to take a short trip over the coming weekend in order to get some distance between you and your problem. Once you can see the forest and not just a few trees, you will have it well in hand. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You are full of charm and wit today and you will find people are more open and receptive to you and your ideas. Make the most of this day by going after what you want in the job market, for today you will get it. Home based ideas also look good. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) A weekend getaway is favored for you and a loved one. If a loved one can't go, ask a friend to go along and double your fun. Work today is mainly routine and you could get off fairly early which will give you a head start on this beautiful weekend. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Following your intuition will be a wise thing to do today as a strong urge, or feeling that you really should be somewhere, could put you in the right place at just the right time. If you are single this could lead to a wonderful romance and lifelong love affair. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) A small tiff on the job may put your employment in jeopardy but the truth wills out and you are cleared. Evening will bring a small disappointment that will lead to a greater satisfaction if you follow your heart on this matter. Listen to a friend tonight. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Unexpected help from behind the scenes go in your favor today as you are given an on the spot promotion due to the actions of a certain person. A loved one will need all your attention tonight to keep him or her from mak- ing a life shattering mistake."}, {"response": 363, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 5, 2000 (13:37)", "body": "May 5, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You want to be informal, unusual or just plain silly. Someone who loves you does whatever it takes to make you happy. Those who must work today may not accomplish much, but it won't seem to matter. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Give someone a reason to be proud of you. Parents or older relatives are happy when you honor a principle important to them. Say the words that are in your heart. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Imagine what you can do next with what you know right now. You're in good company these days, and that means lots of help when you need it. Host a dinner for your friends, and toast your new venture. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Be fair, and be cheerful about it. If someone wants to share the profits, make sure that he or she does an appropriate amount of work. Once a basic agreement is in place, there's no further need to discuss it. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily On this particular Cinco de Mayo, it's the Bull who gets to walk away in victory. Against all odds, you've withstood trespass and oppression. Now it's time to kick up your heels and have some fun. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You don't know whether to laugh or tremble. If you can recognize both the humor and the fear, you have a choice about how this new turn of events will affect you. Remember what you do best, and do it again. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Occasionally, just talking about something makes it better. A friend easily corrects a problem that he or she hadn't noticed until now. The best answers are the obvious ones that everybody usually ignores. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily While an apology might be necessary, there's no reason to damage yourself with the gesture. Excessive drama is sure to undercut your credibility. Anyone who expects total perfection is being unrealistic. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You're eager for more of what excites you. Knowledge is addictive, but don't forget to take comfort in simple physical pleasures. Begin your weekend with a small celebration. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Ask yourself a few questions, and really listen to the answers that come back. There's someone in your life who may not be setting the best example for you to follow. Nourish yourself from only the purest sources. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Loyalty carries powerful emotions on its back. Self-sacrifice is easily justified before you feel its sting. A few moments of levelheaded thinking might save you many regrets later on. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Start with little changes. Feeling better about yourself makes a big difference. Even if the world refuses to turn the way you'd like it to, you can still be happy."}, {"response": 364, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 6, 2000 (11:01)", "body": "May 6, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) All of your work will be here tomorrow and being tired out today makes you take to the sofa for some creative t.v. watching! Get as much rest as you can, but don't neglect any important matters that pertain to your family. They should be very few of them, so fret not. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Yesterday may have been too strenuous for you and used up all your energy. Relaxation is in order but don't count on it. you are in constant demand because you are such a good sport that your friends always want you around. Take a little time tonight to rest and be ready for a demanding work day tomorrow. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) It is time for that heart to heart talk with your spouse about the way the children have been reacting to authority lately. Enlist the spouses cooperation in standing firmly together, a united front, so they can not play one against the other to get their own way: remember that old game?. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Family matters should be paid close attention to today. Firm up their confidence in God, for you know better than most that the family that prays together stays together. You know how to plan things with, not for, them in order to get their cooperation. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Take this time to strengthen your marriage vows with candy and flowers. Get a baby-sitter, if needed, and treat him/her to dinner at a fancy restaurant. Even- ing brings a few problems about your work, so try to get all your contracts cleared away before quitting time rolls around. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) You may be asked to solve a knotty problem at work all by yourself, but it would be best if you insist on shar- ing ideas with another as this could be touchy, you could be blamed if your solution failed. Remember, if you stick your two cents in, have someone there with equal or better stuck right in with you. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Children are your main attention grabbers today. Either you and your spouse are expecting a baby, or you have relatives who are. The happy event should begin sometime today. Remember to keep calm and not faint, as the doctor needs to spend all his time with the mother. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A parent may need your help today. Maybe he or she just wants to see you or, if in another state, really wants you to call them. This person could have something important to share with you. Loved ones benefit greatly today if you make the time to show them how much you really care. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) You could get into one of your moods today, but don't! There are so many good things you will miss out on if you wind up sulking all day. Be your happy self and let the love show. Take the family out for a treat or a visit with the relatives. Don't take everything to heart, it's not aimed at you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You should be well rested after your weeks vacation and able to put in a good day of creative work on the job front. A nice restaurant at lunch time is in order for today, then a quiet afternoon with the family as you plan your fun activities. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) With yesterdays disasters over, you can concentrate on more mundane affairs. Take a while this afternoon to plan your future job strategy or the approach you will use when you ask for that raise. Children need your guidance today so be alert to what they are ask- ing of you. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Your input is very useful and well appreciated today so don't let any one rain on your parade. You can accomplish more than you thought you could. Get in- volved with your local youth group and help them plan their holiday activities. You are, as usual, brimming over with bright ideas and plans."}, {"response": 365, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 6, 2000 (11:05)", "body": "May 6, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You're wasting time trying to impress someone who just doesn't care. This is the wrong moment to force a transformation. Your natural talents will attract all the admirers that you need. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily There's an uncanny similarity between your life and someone else's. When the Moon is in Gemini, strangers become intimate as quick as thought. You're even able to describe the experience to an outsider. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're intrigued and suspicious when an associate tries to carry business beyond the workplace. Question any urgent claims. Put a matter on hold in the absence of a clear answer. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You're eager to have an experience. Be safe, and read the directions at least twice before beginning. The dominoes may fall a lot faster than you expected. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Question the intent of an overly interested stranger. Advice that flies in the face of everything that you know is probably bad advice. Continue what you were doing before a rude interruption took you away from it. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You are your own work of art. Move with high speed and absolute confidence. You're at home in any conversation or romance that the Gemini Moon tosses in your direction. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You're impatient with delusional people, even though patience is just what you need. The mind is a powerful tool and should be treated as such. You probably have a few dreams of your own that others might not understand. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You know the secret inner workings, but every so often it's fun to let yourself be dazzled by the overall effect. Transcend the usual. Brush shoulders with the infinite. The Gemini Moon lets you be bright and breezy. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Everyone has definite ideas about how you should do your job. As the only person who's actually going to do anything, you're free to ignore all advice. There may still be a few useful parts in the discard pile. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're in an accepting mood. You could find a new friend or a new home by the luckiest of accidents. A discussion that starts out of thin air covers a wide territory and lasts for ages. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You react unexpectedly to a surprise. Now that you've started, you might as well keep on going. The change is afoot, and there's no telling where it will lead you. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You have a lot to consider, and only a little time. Start with the bottom lines of 'yes' or 'no,' and work backward. After this marathon is over, you'll deserve a short rest."}, {"response": 366, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 7, 2000 (11:47)", "body": "May 7, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily It's easy to ask for favors, and hard to know when you should stop asking. Standing alone is probably much less work than you think. You'd much rather tell jokes than become one yourself. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You connect with others on many levels. Romance begins or expands. Dialogues spiral skyward in wild new gestures and examples. Everybody is a genius in one way or another. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily A deep issue rises to tower above you. Your personal life gets a little too loud for those not directly involved. Make your apologies or not, as you see fit. You're about to become very busy. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily When imagining the future, be sure everybody is clear that this is just a game. Consider the more creative ways to use a computer. Have someone show you a few things that you can't figure out alone. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You're nudged along faster than you want to be going. Obligations come in all shapes and sizes. Know what you're getting into before you put it on your charge card. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily An astounding weekend continues with one victory after another. You might as well spread some of this magic, since you have so much of it. Find creative ways to advance the people who you support. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Seek help. Without preaching and without conditions, someone is sure to give you what you need. Human decency overrides all the needless details that often become attached to the simplest interactions. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily If you don't have to work, let yourself fall apart into giggling little pieces. If something is expected of you, blow everyone away with your expertise. Either way, there's a cause for celebration. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily There are many complaints, but no one to blame. Stay out of the way in case someone points an irrational finger at you. Show your good intentions by working alone and doing your best. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Everything gets a little mixed up, but nobody minds. It's ensured that your experience is immediate and gratifying. Once you're done, let another person have his or her turn. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Money plays an alarming role in the shaping of reality. Even if you don't like what you see, you may be powerless to make a difference. Live your life as honorably as you can. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily The net has disappeared from your trapeze act. You know your strengths as well as you know your own weaknesses. Now that you're committed, cast aside your doubts and go for it."}, {"response": 367, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 7, 2000 (21:59)", "body": "May 8, 2000 Response 207 of 207: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, May 7, 2000 (21:56) * 108 lines May 8, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Deceptive trends today should cause you to be more protective of your assets, and play your cards close to your vest in love matters. Take care not to give a peer a short answer today as this could topple your image in the work place. A spouse could benefit from some extra attention. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Guard against any form of carelessness on the job today and be extra careful around machinery as there exists the possi- bility of a small accident that being alert can prevent. This is not a good day to volunteer for extra work because you may take on more than you can handle and all your pro- jects would suffer because of it. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Avoid all confrontations today as this is a day when you can't win. On other fronts, such as the performance of your work duties, you more than prove that you are a winner in that area, so much so that you may just get that raise you have been wanting. Celebrate with dinner at a nice restaurant. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) This is a good day to shop around for some new reading material: novels, magazines, etc.. While you are out and about you could run into an old pal that you lost touch with and spent the afternoon catching up with all the changes in each others lives. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A seminar about self control and mind control may be of great interest to you right now, and you should go ahead and sign up for it as you are intelligent enough to separate the truth from the hype and thus get more out of it then most others. Your favorite charity drive starts today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Alcohol and driving do not mix and you have a friend or loved one that may be in danger, so this is a good day to keep your ear to the ground regarding this matter. Keep alert at work today as there are those who would be glad to see you stumble so they can be your replace- ment. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Be cautious with your spending today, especially in the area of luxury items for the home. You could overspend before you know it. A friend needs to have a long talk with you and you should listen carefully and not let your temper flair; all that will be said, will be said with your welfare in mind. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You have very extravagant urges today and could run to excesses if you are not on your toes all day. A loved one needs to be told of all your plans, not just part of them. You court disaster with this attitude when the whole thing is known; without proper preparation the chances are good you won't be agreed with. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Careless today could cost you if you accidently mislay something that you value highly. Your intuition will be a big help to you on the job today as you seem to know what people want, or what they are going to say, before they ask or say it. This could be unnerving to others so play it down. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Money is the root of all evil or so they say. Today you may feel that this is so as you and the spouse always seem to be on the outs over it. A quiet discussion with all the cards on the table, and then a working game plan, can go far to put a cork in a lot of arguments. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Don't get overly sensitive today when someone gives you some criticism; you can learn a lot from it if you really listen to what is said; believe me, you will be glad you did in the long run. Children are little Angels tonight which lets you get some needed rest. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) This is a great day for completing those financial arrange- ments that you have had in the works for you very own business. It is also a good day to seek financing on all major purchases as people feel drawn to you as you have an air of responsibility about you which makes you seem very trustworthy, (which you are)."}, {"response": 368, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 8, 2000 (12:36)", "body": "May 8, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Your conscience drives you harder than any external authority figure. You believe in personal responsibility and group initiative. Your public life is a mirror of how you conduct your private affairs. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You'll do it your way no matter what anyone says. The next few days might be hard if you start feeling persecuted for your decision. Remember that you're trying to prove a point here. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily The Cancer Moon shows you the beautiful, eager child in every adult face that you see. You can mix anything into an amalgam far better than the ingredients. Be proud of your rare abilities. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily What should be clear and obvious is now confusing. You're tuned into an emotional content that was unimportant last week. As far as you're concerned, the joy and suffering should be equally distributed. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You have a fresh, wholesome perspective. Discover something that you always knew but never really noticed. Put your heart into any activity that involves people, food or a sense of belonging. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You avoid a classic mistake when you spot its early warning signs. Be vigilant and empathic. If you must feel someone else's pain, understand it instead of getting lost inside it. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Your week begins with a flood of personal warmth. Not only can you do what you want, but you're recognized for it. Host a special lunch or dinner to celebrate your good fortune. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily The past coughs up a forgotten issue. Yesterday's mystery is now a vital clue. Be careful not to strike a nerve as you probe an old wound. Proceed with the utmost delicacy. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You've kept your ear to the ground, and you know that good news is afoot. As the word becomes official, you're at the head of the line, waiting to receive your share. Be sure to look the part that you hope to play. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily The firm grip of a handshake agreement fades from memory. Someone is persuaded by a new sensation that drowns out the old. Get the whole thing in writing before you go any further. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Great things happen when someone steps back and lets you do your job. Your perspective lets you influence the outcome of events that are happening far away. Laugh easily and love sincerely. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Honesty and generosity blow holes in a lame excuse. Somehow you've made things worse just by trying to be nice. Don't let another person's bad trip poison your day. There's a graceful way out of this."}, {"response": 369, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 8, 2000 (22:07)", "body": "May 9, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you could see the beginning of a new love affair. You have so much going for you that you find it easy to attract that special someone. A new job may have you learning some- thing that is all news to you but you will be able to master it. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) The fun loving ways of the Gemini you just met will be very attractive to you but before you get too involved with this one you must remember that Gemini doesn't like to make hard and fast comittments. You could be looking at a raise or even a career move today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You could have a run in with a leo today and the winner will be a toss up, of course if the lion is your mate then arguing will not be the best solution to your problem. Being able to compromise can keep down some fights but you should not be the only one doing the compromising. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Children could be a worry for you today as you feel someone is not doing all that they should do to help a child. This is something you have no control over and it is best for you to put it out of your mind and into Gods' hands as He can handle it far better than anyone else can. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A good day filled with love and sunshine for you as you and your true love take off for the annual vacation to one of the fun spots for a glorious two weeks. Be sure that the car is tuned up and everything checks out if you plan to drive. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may have a hard time explaining some of your recent actions to a loved one as the check book is balanced and some extravagant spending show up. Liking the finer things in life is good but when you are a team both parties should agree on the spending. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You are great at putting things off and you shouldn't, go ahead and make the appointment. Employee troubles you have experienced in the past few days have finally been resolved and you are more than happy with the outcome. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Before you take an action you may regret try to determine if there is anything worth saving in your relationship and if there is then try to convince the other party to attend marriage counseling with you. It will go far toward solving your problems. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) The new business is working out for you as you like being your own boss but don't let the ego get too big as there are still investors and even clients that you must take into consideration on all your decisions. Today could offer some surprises for you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) No matter which seminar you choose it will never be as easy to make the level of income that is advertised. Be sure you are ready for hard work before you actually buy into any of these systems. It might even be advisable to keep your present job. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A certain person may be getting on your nerves today and if it is at all possible then you should avoid this persons company until this latest quarrelsome mood vanishes. You will be asked to participate in a community fund raising drive and it is for a good cause which you champion. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today You have figured out how to do your work faster so you will begin to see real progress before you know it. Your 'day' job is going well and there may be a raise in sight for you. Love interests are about normal as you have little time to spend on romance."}, {"response": 370, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 9, 2000 (12:06)", "body": "May 9, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You may be facing the chance of a lifetime. Ignore the doubting little voice that tells you to wait until tomorrow. Anyone who truly loves you will come to support this decision sooner or later. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Reality is pliable in the hands of people with powerful motivations. The stories that you tell yourself may seem ridiculous to someone else, and vice versa. If you need reassurance, stay home or travel to a familiar place. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Think with your senses. This is a time of wonder and major creativity. Results are for other people. You're in love with art for its own sake. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily More and more, you want to escape from what is turning into an oppressive situation. Beware the impulse to do a hasty, imperfect job in your desire to be free. A mistake could prolong your discomfort. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily The path that you began to walk yesterday is definitely the right one. Put your best foot forward. There's a common, genuine wisdom in the air. Breathe deeply. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily It's easier to wait for improvements if you're patient. This transitional phase has its attractions, fleeting as they may be. Instead of clutching at the good things, let them pass through you. Something even better is on the way. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Be assertive and compassionate in the same breath. You've got a few days to remake the world as you think it should be. Let your instincts lead as you grant your own wishes. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Male and female energy circles in a slow, uneasy dance. Your heart could be either a true friend or a false guide. Whether faced with relationship issues or some individual dilemma, Leo's light is restless these days. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily It all comes down to a matter of good friends and appropriate staffing. Honor someone for doing a better job than expected. Everyone deserves to be treated like family. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Changes drift instead of sweep. If you go too fast, you might miss something. Instead of doing business as usual, listen to what your intuitions are telling you. Early intervention is always better. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Although you won't let others think for you, you're sensitive to their needs. The stars suggest that you're ripe for a leadership position. Events steer you as much as you determine those events. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Talk is cheap, but in most cases it won't pay the rent. Your comfort level is challenged by the reality of your surroundings. Accept that a different approach is necessary. Your mood will take you where you need to go."}, {"response": 371, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (12:44)", "body": "May 10, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A good day for enjoying the company of good friends. Attend a meeting together or go to a movie and dinner. Work should be a little slow but you are adept at inventing interesting things to keep you occupied so that you look busy while everyone else is idle. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Getting it together and pressing forward to your goals should be your main focus today as you put aside per- sonal problems for awhile and just let the creative ideas flow. Friends will take your mind off things if you meet them half way. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) If you are not careful today you could change your mind just one too many times and the person you are trying to impress will count all the changing to weakness and not to consideration. Stick to your present plans, they are the right ones anyway. CANCER (June 22-July 22) It is a hard life and depressing if you allow it to be. Today you must learn to shake off the poor old me feel- ings and meet the world head on with confidence. By doing this you will find that things really do go right for you. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today you will enjoy your fifteen minutes of fame as the spotlight of opinion is turned on you and you bask in the approval you feel all around you. This is possibly because of a certain accomplishment, or a creative idea that you pushed through to completion. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Problems with internet mail may have you up in arms but the only thing you can do at the moment is sit back and wait...you can always change it if it becomes necessary. Others will find a few annoyances at work that you find hard to resolve today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) If you would have a successful partnership, either love or business you must be very careful that you listen to the other persons views on things, they deserve to be heard as well as you. Children make you proud today. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Although you feel highly successful today try not to let it go to your head and come out as arrogance, you could estrange some very important people who had a lot to do with your success. Give credit where credit is due. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A friend in need is a friend indeed and today you become that friend indeed when you go to the rescue of a good pal and help him out of some legal problems. If you are not a lawyer yourself you may even hire one for him. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Being hardheaded today could very well make you a very lonesome person as someone tries to get a point across and you may not want to hear it or acknowledge it as the truth. A change in attitude is definitely in order for today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Babysitting is fine but you have to know when to draw the line or you may never get a free moment to yourself. You have to let the parent know where the lines are drawn and the precise times you expect to see them at your door, front and center. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A shopping spree is just what you need to take your mind off of certain things, if you can't afford it then take a few hours walking in the mall and window shopping...it's good exercise and you can walk off a lot of tension."}, {"response": 372, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (12:56)", "body": "May 10, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You're easily confused today. You want to be strong-minded, but you'd embrace the love that could reduce you to a babbling fool. Welcome to the human dilemma. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily As Eliza Doolittle sings, 'Words, words, words, I'm so sick of words.' Shut off all dialogues for now, whether they're interpersonal or internal. A change of pace satisfies your body and refreshes your soul. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You sense an ending, but you're not sorry to see it go. It's time for someone else to enjoy the rich world that you've tasted. You're ready to integrate that touch of divine madness with the comfort of your daily life. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You feel a familiar sense of awakening. You're on the edge of something wonderful, just as you were about a month ago. This time around, take it farther and make it last longer. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Practitioners of tai chi can do some of their best work during this strategically placed moment. Counselors are especially convincing to those in need of advice. A change made now is a change for the better. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Ready or not, clarity happens. If the moment catches you off guard, others are probably too preoccupied to notice. You gain a distinct edge when you're the first one to get your balance. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily It's time to wrap up your masterwork before your focus drifts. Leave bookmarks and make adequate backups. Your physical needs grow louder, and will soon demand satisfaction of their own. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Maybe your problems are resolved, or maybe they still need work. In either case, set them aside and let your sunny old self shine through the fog. You can't be too serious for too long -- life is too short for that. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Charm and persistence attract attention, even if others are more eloquent. Once you make someone laugh, he or she will remember you for a long time. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Complaining helps, but only to a point. Unless you're ready to get your own hands dirty, no one else is going to do the work for you. Accept the responsibility with pride. Happiness will soon follow. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Some people are shy around others who radiate power. If you're the big wheel today, be careful about rolling over the feet of those who crowd around you. The dream is sweeter when many can share it. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Beware of goading someone in a volatile emotional state. The man or woman who you anger today will be slow to forgive you. Instead of feeding a grudge, use your powers to nurture a positive change."}, {"response": 373, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (13:35)", "body": "What's The Fuss About The Cusp? People born on the cusp often feel that they are simultaneously influenced by both signs on or near their day of birth. And there is more than a grain of truth in that. But generally speaking, except in the most rare of circumstances, one is most influenced by the sun sign on the day in which s/he was born under. If you feel more like a Taurus than a Gemini, check your natal chart. Your planets may have been aligned more closely with Taurus than Gemini on that particular day. (Check also your moon sign - it gives a good indication of your soul's motivation.)"}, {"response": 374, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (20:41)", "body": "May 11, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your friendships could bring you some unexpected benefits before the day is over. Don't get so wound up in self and the immediate happenings that you neglect to be considerate of a partners feelings. A financial matter should be resolved today and the results will be just what you wanted. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) The morning should be very productive on the job for you as you put forth new ideas with enthusiasms and logic. Later on in the day you may be met with open opposition from someone who has been in competition with you for a long time. Never fear, your points make the most sense and so do you. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) A teenager or a child is showing some positive improvements in the academic arena and this gives you a feeling of happi- ness that hangs in there all day. You should be hearing good news from a publisher or other, in regards to a contract which you have been waiting for. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) The property sale is in the bag and you get the good news today. The other side of the coin, the property you wish to buy with the proceeds are also within your reach. Friends will be more than happy to help you spend part of your money but in this case, leave it in the bank and go 'dutch treat'. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your career plans are right on track today, but be prepared for a change in the method as you find a better way to the same goal, remember, you do not have to reinvent the wheel, sometimes the easy way really is the best way. Take a loved one out to dinner, you will both benefit. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is a fine day for getting with the contractors and planning the completion of your renovation project. Financing is easy for you to come by today, so take some time to get that chore in hand. Be sure to check out any changes in plans you have with the spouse, this will save a quarrel later on. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) If a lover or a spouse seems preoccupied today it would be best to let them alone until he or she is ready to confide in you. Tonight may bring a change of plans in you pleasure pursuits but you will find that it is for something even better. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You may be fighting a blue mood today but you will be able to keep it out of sight so it does not show at work. Being blue is something that happens to a lot of people for various reasons and you have your turn at it. Your problems with a loved one should be over soon, thus alleviating your blue mood. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) A friend who turns you on to a proposition may not realize that it is worthless, and may even give you the hard sell, do both of you a favor and check it out thoroughly before you leap into it. Life just got better when you hear that a certain person is back in town. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You come up with a lucky break today where your job is concerned; just when you thought everything was lost providence steps in and takes a stand. Do not be too surprised tonight when a quarrel erupts with a good friend as this has been festering for awhile, try to keep your cool and just walk away. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Afternoon and maybe morning delays will hinder your job performance today but you have a solid reputation with your company so an off day once in a while won't be held against you. Family matters maybe what is affecting your performance, and if this is so, it would be best to meet them head on and get them out of the way; compromise works wonders. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) While your finances are looking up, you will find some unexpected expenses also crop up today to give you an 'excedren #5'. You manage to make it through a very hectic day and find the spouse has planned some quiet entertainment for the evening and you are ready to relax. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 375, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (16:43)", "body": "May 11, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily The reason for why something must be done transcends your feelings about doing it. Share your resources, but don't share your problems. Someone may come along and surprise you for the better. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily If you're wise, you won't push for more than you already have. You've built yourself a fragile pleasure palace. Erratic behavior could bring the whole thing crashing down on your head. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Today's kettle of fish isn't really your fault. A change of personnel provides some relief. If you don't already know enough to keep this from happening again, you'll soon learn how. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You're truly courageous when your heroic acts seem completely normal to you. Partners join your venture as they see how much fun you're having. Give credit where it's due. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Defuse a bomb with a deftly humorous snip. You're still on dangerous ground, but at least you're not alone. Watch out for people who should know better -- if only they'd think clearly. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily These days you're some kind of trickster. People will laugh even if they don't get the joke -- or if the joke is on them. See how you can improve your environment instead of simply enjoying it. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You're happy with your pace, but there are some who can't keep up. If you want to keep this team running, you may have to do more than your share. This kindness will be repaid further down the road. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Your vague, impossible hopes solidify into something that looks a lot like reality. A full house of fans cheers you on, convinced of your success. You can do this. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The same numbers add up to something different this time. Your tone of voice betrays your true emotions. Move quickly if you hope to maximize on what's happening. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're elected as leader, but you're a democrat, not an autocrat. It would be wrong to make a move without the approval of your public. The good news is that your ideas are generally welcome. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You're not having as much fun as you think you should be having. Your critics are unprepared to offer much sympathy. Beware of high expectations that set you up for a disappointment. Reduce your stress at the source. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily If you're going to make waves, you'll need an accomplice. Round up all the usual suspects to ease your selection process. Partnership has never been more special."}, {"response": 376, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (18:51)", "body": "OK I'll go out and make some waves tonight. Are you ready?"}, {"response": 377, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 11, 2000 (22:12)", "body": "...whenever you are...! May 12, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A good day coming up that will offer you more financial increases than you have been seeing. The opportunity of a better job is likely to be your ticket to easy street. You may have a few personal problems that will plague you but you get them ironed out in no time. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Taking care of business and keeping the nose to the grindstone pays off today. Others will find the arena of romance to be where they shine and yet they too will make strides in the business world. Children may offer some problems for you, but you are fully capable of taking care of them to everyones liking. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You may be your own worst enemy today as you find yourself going against your better judgement in a matter that may bring you heartbreak, follow your heart, it is the safest route to happiness. Don't ignore a friend today who needs some financial help. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you should try to finish up those renovation jobs that you have going, or at least hire a contracter. It may even be a good idea to take a week off now in order to complete these long standing tasks. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) An old love returns and you are off in a whirl of joy and bright lights. Be careful that you do not neglect important jobs and issues while in your daze or it could hurt you financially. Older family members may have a hard time getting in touch with you today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today is great for working at home and completing your newest enterprise. In the heat of invention you may not listen to carefully to those around you, just be careful that it is work and cannot be viewed as neglecting them. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Starting a new life with another person sounds easy on the surface but as long as you try to be as considerate as possible, even during an argument, everything should work out. Married Libras will feel a renewing of love in their partnership. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your finances may be looking good but that is no excuse to be a big spender, oh yes, it will bring you loads of friends but they will disappear as soon as your money is all gone, so put it in the bank, you never know just when you will get hit with a 'rainy' day. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Family members may be at odds with one another today and you will have to be the peacemaker, go ahead, you are good at keeping the peace. A teenager may be about to get into some serious trouble but you will be able to talk him or her out of it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Don't kick your heels up too high today as you want to save your energy for on the job. Making a good impression with the boss is all important as promotions are in the making and you are being considered. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) This is a good day to carefully guard against those who would take advantage of your good nature, Hopefully most of you have mastered the art of evaluating the motives behind the actions of a select few. Spend some time relaxing today. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Being distant with a person who has hurt your feelings will not solve the problem you are holding inside. This person must be told what he/she has done wrong and given the chance to apologize. Don't ever let the sun set on your anger."}, {"response": 378, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, May 12, 2000 (07:10)", "body": "I would be surprised if I had to get a teenager out of trouble today. But there's always a slim chance."}, {"response": 379, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 12, 2000 (12:52)", "body": "Maybe you'll get lucky... (doesn't sound like something you would do, actually!) May 13, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Put on your blinders to keep you focused on the straight line that you must walk. If someone has more than you do, it may be that he or she is entitled to it. Prove yourself worthy of your own kind of reward. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You may feel trapped and want to escape. Your departure will have its consequences, but perhaps your moment of relief will make them worthwhile. Remember to explain yourself to the people who care. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're quick to suspect someone whose motives are unclear. Avoid any transaction that doesn't directly concern you. Face your own challenges without distraction or interference. A focused mind makes all the difference. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Wrap up your week with a demonstration of everything that you've been talking about. A modest sideshow becomes the main act of the circus. Your training makes the impossible look easy. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You may not be able to change someone else's mind, but you can be comfortable in your own. Something big and exciting is ready to pounce the moment that you step outside. Indoor sports are preferable at this time. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You should appreciate your luck while you have it. Others will believe you when they get a glimpse of your success story. Personal power comes with a cosmic rule book -- be sure to read it before operating. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Being early means that you'll have to wait. Your enthusiasm may lead you to the upper edge of your budget. Honor the promise that you made to yourself during some less happy moment. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily The weekend starts the instant that you open your eyes. Work is impossible, unless your job is play-oriented. Love is everywhere, tickling your fancy without a shred of mercy. Happy songs are written about days like this. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You're not sure of where you're going. Some people seek general guidance, while others want specific directions. Indecision has its possibilities, as long as everyone is patient about the delay. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're here to have fun, make friends and maybe learn something in the process. You're a master craftsperson at the art of living. A quiet magic is at work in your romantic affairs. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Your business seems to exclude much of what's random and fun. Let others have a good time if they're not getting in your way. Lighten up before you disappear into your own darkness. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Gambling is a game for winners. During times of plenty, everyone gets a piece of the pie. You embark on a ride that you'll remember for a long time to come. Your smile keeps you warm in any weather."}, {"response": 380, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 12, 2000 (23:17)", "body": "May 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Dealing with an opinionated person today could cause a few sparks as you are highly opinionated yourself. A new goal may seem tempting and you are ready to scrap the one that you have been working towards for something that sounds more exciting to you, but it would be wise to take a lot of time to think before you take such a drastic step. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Today your financial prospects take a turn for the better even though you may think differently because of a financial matter that has been a headache trying to solve; this will see an agreement come forth today that all parties can live with. Keep a cool head. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Today you get a chance to display your executive ability and you excel in the job. This could mean a big promotion with a substantial wage increase. Your intuition is very strong today, you must be careful that you do not freak people out by answering questions before they are asked! CANCER ( June 22-July 22) You and a spouse, or other loved one, click like mad today as you are finally tuned into the same wave length and the vibes are flowing. The esp is really strong between the two of you and past grievances are forgotten in a new found loving interest in one another. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A change in position may be in the stars for you today, maybe even a change to a whole new company! You are always in there plugging and you manage to make the best deal possible for yourself. Investment interests are also look- ing prosperous today, you are likely to see a return on your capital. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is a good day to take your loved one out to a movie, or a concert, and soak up some culture along with some peace and quite after a busy week at work. Plan some fun activities with the family if there are children in the home, preferably where you can keep the seat of a com- fortable lounge chair warm. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Try not to get involved in an argument with a person whose has his or her mind made up, especially if it is a spouse or you will have a long term, running fuss on your hands. A good compromise beats an argument any day, and almost insures that you will wind up getting your own way. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Even though you and a partner may see eye to eye on every- thing else don't expect a quick agreement on your latest idea which involves spending funds that have been allocated in another department. Your ideas are sound, and with cool logic you will be able to get this across. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) This is not a good day to have a confrontation with an authority figure as you may not come out of it looking good. You have a hunch today that is right on the money but it must be presented with confidence, not aggression. You and your spouse finally get your problem solved. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Look for a breakthrough today on the problem that has had you stymied for so long, the solution will amaze you in its simplicity. Take the afternoon to round up the kids, or your friends, and head for some fun in the sand and the sun, this is a perfect day for it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Friends may seem difficult to interact with today but don't blame them, it could be that you have your mind on ten thousand other things and it puts you out of sorts. Try spending some time alone to get your thoughts back in control and you will find that the problem you thought was so world shaking really isn't a problem after all. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Someone you think you know well may be manipulating you, or trying to. Don't fall for the line they are handing out today; show him or her that you are too smart to be used. Evening brings romance to the single, and a new found closeness to the married. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 381, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 12, 2000 (23:54)", "body": "May 13, 2000 Cancer (June 22-July 22) You can make money through your own creative efforts. Your good ideas and ability to discuss your intentions with those who can assist you will ease your plight. 4 stars"}, {"response": 382, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 13, 2000 (15:55)", "body": "May 13, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You're rich with the fuel that runs your engine. A phone call or email to or from another part of the world brings you a global perspective. Get to work, happy in the knowledge that you're doing your part. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Your sense of duty gets the better of you. Even if you envy the pleasure seekers of the world, those feelings don't interfere with what you have to do. Everything has its time and place. You can wait. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily An exciting risk has a dark side. Before putting yourself in unnecessary jeopardy, consider the consequences of failure. Reasonable people will understand if you walk away from a challenge. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily This is the wrong moment for false claims and hoaxes. The Virgo Moon is here to hold you accountable for every word that you say. Know your limits, and admit to them when challenged. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily The crowd knows best, especially when they're your friends. Play along with a popular fiction, and maybe you can find a place for it in your life. The prize goes to the person whose style is the most winning. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Follow a good example. Understand a new method or philosophy before adapting it to your own purposes. Family or longtime friends may not approve of your changes. There might be a better time to make a sudden move. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Mental or spiritual stimulation is high on your list for this weekend. There's always room for a few more good people. A touch of celebration can inform and enhance your usual life. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Your soul could use a bit of searching. The Moon invites you into Virgo's house for a tune-up. All the usual seductions will be there later, whether or not they still hold their appeal. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The most inspiring words to Virgo are, 'Get your house in order.' While you may not be perfect, you're pretty darned good. Anyone who doesn't love you for your flaws is just a waste of time. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're challenged, but maybe not in a good way. The tug-of-war between Mercury and Venus precipitates a crisis of esthetics. You might have to choose between instant gratification and long-term satisfaction. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily If there's a social event in your weekend, expect an important connection to happen. A stranger comes to the forefront, or an old acquaintance steps into a new light. A common bond connects the past to the future. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You may be special, but there are limits. The rules are in place for everyone to observe. Instead of wasting your energy challenging the system, be creative within it."}, {"response": 383, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 14, 2000 (13:00)", "body": "May 14, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You're cast in a power suit that perfectly matches your ambitions. Result-oriented people can expect a great day. Those who want to relax will feel wonderfully grounded. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Others are still playing, and you're still working. This is getting old, isn't it? Keep your reasons in front of you before the doubts start eating away at your resolve. You will be rewarded for this sacrifice. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Thinking too much only brings you around the circle one more time. Nonlinear logic and intuition don't stand up under cross examination, but there must be something to them. Sooner or later, nature takes its course. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Even if you aren't happy with yourself, someone thinks you're special. Perhaps many love you. It's okay to rely on others for a pat on the back. By tomorrow, you should be your strong, familiar self again. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Happy times await you. You're filled with youthful energy, no matter what your calendar age. If you have something to say, deliver the message in a song or a dance. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Seek the quiet of your own thoughts instead of trying to be heard above public noise. Home improvement projects are both meditative and practical. You'll have something to show for your efforts by the end of the day. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily It's a myth that Cancer always hides in their shell. You let it all hang out, flying your flag for the world to see. If people think that you're being loose and dizzy, just let them try your sharp mind in a battle of wits. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Think twice before throwing away some of that disposable income. Instead of laying out the cash, create something that works or looks just as good. It always helps to remind yourself how useful you can be. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The stars have sent you an excellent day. You're relaxed, efficient and easily impressed by people who know what they're doing. Showcase your own skills, as well. This is one moment when everything works. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Productivity seems out of the question. Mind someone else's business if that's what it takes to rescue you from your own thoughts. Even shallow amusement is better than complete boredom. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Anyone who gets your attention receives a great gift. Your small acts of kindness establish you as a valued community member. A secret plan still has lots of room for last minute changes. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Your guiding light is obscured by fitful clouds. A moment of darkness is a poor excuse for striking out blindly. You can probably guess which decisions you'll later regret."}, {"response": 384, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 14, 2000 (21:25)", "body": "May 15, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A good day for you today and if you play your cards right you could wind up with that position you have been after. In the arena of love Aries shines today, but be careful not to be so aggressive that you scare your future spouse off before you have had a chance to win him or her over. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) In the spirit of Springtime your love blooms like the flowers. This is a wonderful day for doing your lawn chores and spruce up jobs around the home place. Others will find their working conditions to be improving with the firing of a particularly depressing coworker. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Changing horses in the middle of the stream today could be your undoing so try to stick to a decision once you have committed yourself to it. Children may need some extra time tonight and if you have not had that all important talk about drugs now would be a good time. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Home and family comes first with you and you gather all your resources today to move them into a new home; you will find this to be the best move you have ever made. A new career that failed to get started may get a boost today and you set your goal to a level you can reach. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Fighting over unimportant little things is not the wisest thing to do because even if your spouse wins, you will build up a lot of resentment in the relationship. Don't be too quick to jump on a coworker today as this person is working as hard as he/she can. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Your attitude towards someone who works hard for you leaves a lot to be desired, especially when she is ill. Try being more compassionate, and letting the person know that you care about her and not just how much she can do for you. Your business outlook brightens up today. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) A new love has you in a daze and you are walking on cloud nine. Time to come down to earth to make a few decisions, you need to evaluate the relationship and where it is headed so you can make some informed decisions concerning your future, no one ever gets younger. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Scorpio, the lovers lover! Today you will meet your match in the department of romance who will sweep you off your feet. This could be the one that will finally settle you down and make you think of home and slippers. If you are already married you will find your love will blossom anew. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Family members do not always react the way you would like them to no matter how hard you push. Maybe it would be a good idea to just back off and let them live their own life while you concentrate on you for a change. It' time you go out and do some of the things you have always wanted to do and let the rest go their own way. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Reliable Capricorn may be ready to chuck it all and go out and kick up a rumpus, go ahead, you deserve to have a little fun, especially if the rest are going to treat themselves, (on your pocketbook), to a day of fun and leisure. Be careful not to change your image at work though, that could spell disaster. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Since your forte is entertaining you will shine today as your party for the soon to be wed gets under way. Family and friends pitch in and help you get the house and the refreshments ready for the afternoon. Love is definitely in bloom and this may give someone close to you the right idea. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) It has been a long time in getting here but your time has finally come. The day ahead is filled with good things for you, such as a raise at work, meeting a new love, having your investments pay off, etc.. All in all, a very good day when luck dogs your steps. ------------------------------------------------------------ These original horoscopes are based on planetary aspects and configurations for each sun sign. Though everyone is unique, and we are not stereotyped into 12 classes, the general mood and theme of your horoscope tends to apply to your daily life. By Michael Thiessen - Professional Astrologer, Astrology Online http://www.astrology-online.com/zodiac.htm"}, {"response": 385, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (12:06)", "body": "May 15, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You can still win by laughing last, even when the joke's on you. Famous examples are rich with meaning. Impossible odds seem like a personal challenge to be answered later, in your own time. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Your voice is loud with excitement, not anger. Be patient with those who have yet to catch the bug that has infected you. You're a flurry of motion, to say nothing of a blank slate for wonderful new ideas. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily A touch of self-delusion gets you through a difficult time. As long as you act responsibly, you can give any reason for it. Ignore those who try to tell you what you already know. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You have the advantage, but it's a precarious position. You'll make ripples whether you stand or fall. Treat others with dignity, even if you don't completely trust them. It's important to keep the peace. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Now that others have done all the work, it's your job to make it look good. Add a touch of warmth to a cold, lifeless situation. Your smile helps it all come out evenly. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily The view from the top is just stunning. The Libra Moon gives the Twins a double shot of their usual energy. You could easily overwhelm someone who isn't ready. This effect will probably work to your advantage. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You're the first one at the table, and you may have a long wait before anyone else shows up. Others are still struggling with their own issues. Be brave and wise enough to quit when necessary. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You're above the problems faced by those with water and earth signs. The Libra Moon feeds your fire. Financial managers and personnel experts are unbeatable. All Leos shine in their chosen professions. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Don't blame someone for misunderstanding you. Your unconventional logic or eccentric reputation could be getting in the way. Tune into the prevailing consensus reality before going any further. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're popular because you make sense and inspire hope. Some like your management style, and others are attracted to you as a human being. You're a guaranteed winner for the next few days. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Is everyone ignoring you? If so, you have that much more freedom to experiment and make mistakes. It's also a good time to blend in with the crowd if you lack the energy to do exceptional things. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Your motives are above reproach, and your heart is soaring. Even the people who ask hard questions will be satisfied with simple explanations. This Monday is more gold than blue."}, {"response": 386, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (12:47)", "body": "Great, Gold Monday!"}, {"response": 387, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (13:01)", "body": "Can't beat Mondays which are predicted to be gold! Mine is nebulous, as usual, but I do have a new confrence to play around in till Wolfie gets home...*grin*"}, {"response": 388, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (23:32)", "body": "May 16, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Old friends are wonderful but new friends are a joy to welcome into your life because as the old saying goes, 'you can never have too many friends', and today you will be introduced to people who will instantly click with you and become close pals as time goes on. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) You may get a pleasant surprise today at some unexpected career developments that will definitely be to your advantage, even if it is not at first apparent. Worry only turns your hair gray and never helped anyone, so try to do less of worrying and more constructive planning. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) A juicy investment offer drops in your lap today and you pluck it like the plum it is. On the job front you will have less contention from employees than has been the case lately. Marital squabbles should let up today as you and the spouse make a mutual agreement. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Partnership relations are looking good today as you and your partner reach a mutual agreement concerning the business. A spouse also figures in this decision but he/she reserves opinion on the matter. An afternoon just made for kicking back and enjoying the finer things of life. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) It's not a good day to plan on entertaining at home, if you must entertain do it at a restaurant or other fun place, it will be more successful in the long run. Parents may demand some of your time today and you gladly give it to them. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) The weather is hot, and people that work in the heat may be a little more irritable today than normal and it would be wise to keep the criticism down to a whisper, tomorrow is another day and you can wait. Being hit with the bureaucrats in the afternoon does not do your temperature any good either. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Spending a lot of time entertaining a certain person may put a strain on your finances and you could be caught short in an emergency if you don't cool it for now. Taking a little time to stay home tonight would be a splendid idea since you have a lot of chores that needs catching up on. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Today you get a chance to prove just how high the majestic eagle can fly as you assume control of your company or district. Fair play and christian business ethics will keep you on the top of the heap for many years to come. Your spouse is the ideal person with whom you should celebrate your good fortune. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) The financing that you have been dickering over is finally in your pocket along with a signed contract for the home you want; congratulations. While you plan your move don't forget to keep the spending as tight as possible because there are always one or two unexpected expenses associated with moving to a new location. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Today flexibility will have to be your middle name as plans are changed and nothing goes right, at least not the way you planned it, as people ignore your wishes and follow their own agendas. Don't give them a second thought, just do your own thing today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Today is your day for original thinking and some of the ideas you come up with are brilliant, even the boss thinks so as he immediately makes one or two a mandatory routine for all employees. Take your spouse out for dinner, romance is in the air. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Be careful that you do not antagonize someone at work as it may just be the person that you will later need to cover for you. Advice a well meaning friend gives you tonight may not be appropriate for your situation, so listen but don't take it."}, {"response": 389, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 16, 2000 (21:38)", "body": "May 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You may think the lender has lost your application but don't worry, today you hear the good news that it has already been approved and you are on your way to the real estate dealer. Moving day is coming shortly so be sure you have everything ready to go. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) The lawsuit that you have been involved in has been decided today and it is in your favor. After so much hard work you finally reach the goal that you had set for yourself a long time ago and you get some friends together and have a celebration. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Sitting around mooning over the past never changed anything and today is no exception to that rule. You know this so you set out to make amends and find that is all this person really wanted you to do. All work is never good and so you start to spend more time in mental pursuits of love, culture, and friends. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) A small physical problem may be bothering you and this would be an excellent time for you to go and have that checkup to make sure it is nothing serious. It is hard to be energetic and indisposed at the same time. You others will find your energy is very high today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You are having a lucky day so buy a couple of lottery tickets and keep your fingers crossed. Your luck will also extend to romance if you are single and you find yourself asking the big question. Wedding bells will soon be in the air for you or for a close member of your family. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is not the right time to try to get close to a skeptical Leo but you could try again later with more success. This is a good time to spend with your families as all of you will benefit from the added closeness. Children need more of your time than you have given lately. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Be aware of the feelings of the people around you today as they run high and you could hurt someone without knowing it. Being considerate in your speech and thinking first will save the day. A spouse may not be too happy with the way things have been going lately but you get it taken care of early. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Keep your feet well anchored today as there is a scam artist out there just made for someone who may be too trusting or not awake and smelling the coffee. An Aries may try to sweep you off your feet, but this is not an excellent time for romance. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Travel figures importantly now in your life as you contemplate the new job and what it will mean to you. Be sure you look carefully at all your options and requirements so you will choose the best for you and your family. Friends or instructors can be of benefit to you in this matter. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Someone who wishes to be a silent partner really wants to be silent. Do not try to get them involved in decision making as you could lose the partner. Today you will be guided in a matter involving your spouse and home. Pay strict attention to the small voice within. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Before signing any agreements you should seek professional help from an attorney. scam artists are common and some will leave you no recourse as they are barely within the letter of the law. Get all promises in writing because salespeople are prone to amnesia later on. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) In your realm of experience you have little competition so bask in the limelight you have earned. A social function missed tonight could be damaging to your affairs so it will be best if you attend this particular one. Good news is coming your way from out of town."}, {"response": 390, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 17, 2000 (19:36)", "body": "May 17, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily A touch of passion transforms an annoying task into a personal quest. Time is your friend, a valuable resource wisely managed. By day's end, the connections are falling into place. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Your appetite gets the better of you. Others are willing to forgive and in some ways indulge you, but recognize this as an exception rather than as the rule. Tomorrow it will be your turn to accommodate someone else. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You may be emotionally vulnerable, but courage will see you through. If you're expecting a crowd, try to be early. Great things happen to those who deserve them. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily An unstable situation tilts in someone else's favor. Hold onto what you now have so that it won't slide away from you. Self-preservation can look a lot like selfishness. Be sure that you know the difference. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily There's a lot here to learn and enjoy, but still so much to accomplish. A happy development energizes you to do better than you've already done. This is a day that could live long in memory. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You're the first to read the writing on the wall. Unsettled, exciting times lie ahead. As long as you're comfortable and confident, this is one ride that you're really going to like. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily By cunning or by force, you'll find your way out of this mess. You'll get back on track later in the day. Some might frown on your unorthodox methods. You'll just have to live with that. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Colleagues and clients may be unaware of your hand behind the scenes of a perfect event. Modesty helps your image even more than blowing your own horn. Savor the feeling while you have it. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily It's time to bring aboard a coconspirator. You know many qualified people who can help in the areas where your own experience doesn't reach. There's an approaching deadline that you want to meet, if not beat. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily There's more to life than looking pretty. Put your charms to good use -- or excel in an area that has nothing to do with appearances. You're a person of many talents, and all of them are crying out for some exercise. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily The weight falls slowly but surely from your shoulders. Stand upright with new energy and resolve. You may need to fight for what you want, but in the process you're likely to gain something even better. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily This is the test drive where the rubber meets the road. Now you're too focused on the present to worry about the outcome. It's a little late to readjust the details anyway. Trust the work that you've already done."}, {"response": 391, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 17, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "May 18, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) How do you like the way your day is starting? Hold on to your hat, because the day is really going to be exciting! Look for possible new promotions, or new friendships! You also may encounter someone in need. Don't turn them away as you may bring on some bad Karma. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) You could be socializing with business people today, if so be on your best behavior. Someone you connect with today could become the backer, or even a silent partner, in your new business venture. Don't be surprised to find yourself having to change a few appointments around today as some- thing important comes up. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Try not to sweep mistakes under the rug today, yours or a pals, as the rug could be moved and the damage then would be three times as bad. Your spouse is feeling slightly confused and needs to have a serious talk with you about the family; be sure you make a lot of time for this. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Your day at work should prove to be both productive and interesting not to mention an unexpected surprise in the afternoon. The time for charity organization is here and you are tapped to head up your local committee, just be sure that you can spare the time before you say yes. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Feel like running an extra mile or going to the shore on a quit it and go basis? Then do it, you haven't treated yourself to a spontaneous outing for a long time and it would do you a world of good. This is a beautiful day and you are much too happy to get out of sorts with any- one today so don't let some ones actions spoil this mood for you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Your latest plans for a new business or web site is off and running and it has all the earmarks of success that your previous efforts enjoyed. Try not to work yourself into oblivion as then you will lose your 'edge' and you will see creativity and originality go down the drain. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Practicing teamwork is the only thing that will succeed today and you are aware of this and pull out all the stops to interact creatively with a coworker to get the job down and out on time. A minor fender bender could be yours for the asking if you are not alert today dur- ing the entire time you are driving. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Take off your shirt, if you are a man, and get out there in the dirt with the rest of the construction crew, they may need to see you as one of the guys and not just as the boss; you could see some tense situation evaporate if you do. Others will find that pitching in and helping the 'hired help' will give your esteem a big boost. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Planning your vacation or a short trip may keep you occupied for most of the day but be prepared for a little disappointment when some of your best plans are changed or canceled; best not to set them in cement. Get together with the family and make every effort to include all their likes and dislikes. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) On awaking today you may remember some parts, or even all, of a particularly profound dream. This could be a warning dream or one of guidance so take the time to meditate on it to find out what your subconscious is trying to tell you; I assure you you will not regret the time you spend on this matter.. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Wanting to do your own thing and go your own way is a common need among most people and perfectly acceptable in the single person, but if you are married you should keep them apprised of your plans but do tell them of your need to spend some time alone; your spouse will understand. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Your productivity is high during the morning hours but you may start to feel fairly annoyed as you find your plans for the afternoon being changed one after the other by other people. Don't let it get to you, just hang in there and at quitting time you can go home and stick your feet up while you relax in front of the television."}, {"response": 392, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (12:13)", "body": "May 18, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Humanity and unity are at the heart of whatever you think and do. You're the bridge that spans the gap, the switch that closes the circuit. Help others do the things that come to you so easily. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Words are strong medicine that should be used only for good. If you accidentally hurt someone, there's nothing that you can say to make it better. Be quiet -- maybe there's something that you can do instead. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're thrown at the feet you at the object of your desire. The normal rules seem to be for someone less powerful and restless than you. When you look back, you'll wonder why you didn't see this miracle coming sooner. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily It's not always easy to do what's necessary. The urgency of your actions might rub someone the wrong way. An accident takes on a hidden meaning. Apologies take time away from something more important. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily At this point, it's exciting to be out of control. Passion alone keeps you moving. Your luck is still holding, but for how much longer can you count on it? Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily If you plan to do anything questionable, be sure that there are no witnesses. Someone may challenge you, in which case it would be best to stop. You could come into the wrong kind of fame. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Pay attention in case your moment of truth comes without fanfare. The universe may deliver the punch line, but you're the one who controls the rest of the joke. You'll do a lot for the sake of love. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You may have to settle for something unsatisfactory. You owe a debt of loyalty to someone who doesn't share your sense of esthetics or fun. Save your anger for a better reason than this. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You're smart as a whip and sharp as a tack. You can find anything, no matter how small or how lost. Your apparently super powers are just a wise combination of the normal skills that everyone shares. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You may be everyone's friend, but you're nobody's fool. If you see the signs of a shortage, save something for yourself. Investigate the root causes to find out just who is responsible. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily At last you come into your own. Whatever energy you need to pursue your desires is unleashed. If there's danger in having fun, then you're drawn to the dangerous life for the rest of the week. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Your environment or the company that you keep could be limiting you. Change personnel or location, and see if that breaks your creative block. Somewhere inside you is a film waiting to be made."}, {"response": 393, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (13:57)", "body": "Yes, that film!"}, {"response": 394, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (15:26)", "body": "*rubbing hands in anticipation* Shall I pop the popcorn yet? Subject? I'd even settle for your trip to the hill country again - and again. Can't you make a Terry power tape and run it? All worthy-of-the-name Firthians have their own Darcy power tapes which have been used so many times that they have to be remade from time to time. It would work for you, too. I am first in line!"}, {"response": 395, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 18, 2000 (21:13)", "body": "How can I get some of these Darcy tapes?"}, {"response": 396, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (18:49)", "body": "You gotta make 'um buy the laborious method of two vcr's or have someone send you theirs *smiling graciously*"}, {"response": 397, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (18:52)", "body": "How do I get some of the terry pix from your video? (Whatcha gonna do with the Darcy tapes?) ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your busy week is winding down today and you have your sights set on the open road. This is a good plan and you should not let anyone change your mind, hey, invite them along to share in the fun! Picking up hitchhikers can be very hazardous to your well being so it is best not to do this, no matter if it is a man or a woman. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) A fairly smooth day at work when things just seem to fall into place for you and you get your work out early. Evening will see you in a possible dither over the escapades of some teenagers, yours or ones that belong to someone else. You can be counted on in a pinch and you prove it tonight. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) An ongoing marital quarrel comes to a head today and nothing you do seems to be right, if you have went the extra mile and sought counseling for the two of you, and cooperated in every way you know how to keep your marriage intact and nothing works, then it is possible that you would be better off calling it a day and opting for a little happiness of your own. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Night fishing sounds like a great idea to you but your family may be a little tired of being left alone so why not forego that treat for yourself and plan some fun outing for them, the do deserve it and you let your love shine through by doing this. This is also a good day for catching up on your social obligations to friends. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) If you have not already started your diet and exercise routine then this would be a perfect day to do it. Enlist a few friends that may also need help in that area and go out and join your latest spa, or dance class. you won't be sorry. Get yourself a little r and r tonight. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) If you are a single person don't plan on staying that way too much longer as a person you will meet casually today will soon become the most important person in your life. Others will find themselves making new friends and enlarging on the friendships they already enjoy. Married ones will find they are enjoying their spouses company more than ever. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) You should conduct yourself in such a manner today as not to invite criticism or possible lawsuits, losing your temper could be your undoing, so stay cool and collected at all times. The boss may not be in a good mood today so put off asking for favors until next week. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A person needs to know and understand their own limit- ations, so don't walk out on a limb today as you could saw it off behind you with well meant promises that you are unable to keep. This would be a good day for clearing away the debris in your life by rectifying some mistakes that you have made in the past. A good friend also becomes your confidant tonight. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Work is a little on the slow side and you have time today to put your creative ideas out there for a test. Don't be afraid to ask that all important ques- tion of your loved one tonight as romance is blooming, love is in the air, and he/she is in a very receptive mood; your answer is sure to be yes! CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Being compatible with your mate is all well and good but in any union there has to be give and take, more give than take, on both sides. Even if you are compatible signs, try to remember that your love is an individual and will act as his/her personality dictates; other than that, you should have a great marriage. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) The end of a nerve wracking first week on the job. Relax, you should do quite well in that position, it was made to order for you with your capabilities. Put all this out of your mind while you prepare to let loose and really enjoy yourself tonight, chances are, if you are not already married, that you will meet a new romantic interest at a get together later tonight. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) This is a good day to clear away the clutter in your financial accounts and catch everything up to date, don't wait until the last minute and then scramble to balance the books. Being too possessive with a loved one will not be in your best interests, so why not take a page from Confucius, \"if you love it let it go, if it is yours it will come back to you; if it does not come back to you, it was never yours in the beginning\"."}, {"response": 398, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (18:58)", "body": "The above and the following are for May 19, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Even though this is supposed to be a consensus, it's clear that you know more than most. Either educate others or simply take over. Most people are likely to accept your expertise once they recognize it. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily The bigger and more complex the system, the more likely it will have holes and glitches. Start small. Stabilize carefully. Seek out other rational thinkers to ensure that the whole thing works for everyone. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Surprise your critics and delight your fans. Your private side is about to make its public debut. Anything can happen, and you'll do what you can to be sure that it happens to you. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily IThere's no reasoning with someone who's convinced that he or she is right. Unless you want a discussion to become a battle, it's time to retreat. Remember how ridiculous this looks so that you won't do the same thing. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Timing and style are everything. A presentation works the best when you really know your subject. You're handed you just the moment that you've anticipated. This would look great on film. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You get the right messages from all the wrong places. For now, the best strategy might be to confuse your opponent. Be prepared to deal in other ways with someone too smart to be fooled. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily End the week with a sweet reward. Transformation is all joy and no pain. People are giving a lot to make this easy for you. Resolve to return the favor sooner, rather than later. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Your usual level of ornamentation is unnecessary or impossible for now. If you have no time for the finishing touch, others will be impressed by the real you. Learn a small but valuable lesson. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Your reputation precedes you. Your senses are heightened, your mind cleared. New stories contain familiar elements. Shout out the answer as soon as you know it. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily At last you understand the secret formula. You're so happy with your progress that you just want to keep on going. Find a delicate way to exclude those whose participation would only make matters worse. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Forget how you got here and just enjoy the view. You have the gift of attracting the person or people who you want most. Pluto and Mars gang up to make the good times roll. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You say, 'I can't,' when you really mean, 'I won't.' Clarify your boundaries to the person who keeps pushing at them. You already know the lesson that someone thinks you should be learning."}, {"response": 399, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 19, 2000 (22:53)", "body": "May 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This will be a glorius day for you if you just relax and go with the flow, don't make any unsatisfied waves and you will find that you end the day with all your wishes and needs, (within reason), satisfied. A good friend is planning a move out of town but you talk common sense to this person and change his mind. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) You should accept one of your invitations and go out for some fun tonight. Just be sure to keep the spending down to a mild roar as you may find yourself caught short for tomorrows emergency. Remember to keep a handle on the drinking also, don't forget your designated driver. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Study a new financial proposal carefully before signing anything and don't be afraid to challenge any thing you don't like about it. Afternoon should be spent in quiet pursuits as your nerves need settling down at this point. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) This is one of those days when you would just like to kick around by yourself and enjoy the fruits of your own thoughts for a change. Going shopping alone can afford you this very opportunity, but you may have to slip away to do it. Let someone else babysit today and tomorrow you will feel like a new person. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Tempers may flair today over something that you may consider trival but the other person sees it as a major thing in their life. Instead of letting your temper get the best of you why not put yourself in the other persons shoes and try to under- stand why the matter carries such weight. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Planting 'flowers' in an older persons 'garden' will be to your advantage in the long run. While you are helping to complete anothers life today you will be enriching your own. Fair treatment is all this person has ever asked from anyone and you are the one person that understands this, and does this, to the fullest. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Today your sensibilities are fine tuned to the artistic pursuits of pleasure as you take in a local concert or even visit the museum or art gallery. Take along the family, especially children who are old enough to absorb the culture you will be offering them. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You could be beset with a myriad of stress today related to your business or personal enterprise but if you try to stay 'with it' you will come through better than you started. Take advantage of the evenings plans and relieve your stress through fun. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) You will not have a pleasant time of it today as your world of appliances seem to have it in for you when two or more of the monsters act up and you have to call the repair man to fix them. Cheer up though, the problems are minor and it only costs you an arm, not an arm and a leg. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You may be in danger of some losses today if you do not keep a close eye on your billfold or purse; one careless moment is all it will take. A loved one that has been away for a long while is back and together you set out to paint the town, have fun; be safe. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Family members that you have not heard from in years calls and arranges for a visit with you in the near future. Don't pull out all the stops and spend a lot of money in your preparations as there is a possibility of a change in plans. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Pisces will find they will have the most fun, and luck, at the seashore today and there is also the possibility of a budding romance getting off to a running start. Evening may find you too pooped out to do much more than lay around the house, so rent a movie, pop some corn and enjoy your leisure time."}, {"response": 400, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (06:01)", "body": "Let's hope no appliances break down today."}, {"response": 401, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (17:21)", "body": "Yes, please! At least no more than my nerves can handle, I'm supposed to have a quiet afternoon to let them calm down. Well, if you can see this, it is working...and so is Spring! May 20, 2000 Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're attracted to someone who, through no fault of his or her own, dwarfs your accomplishments. If you lay on the humility too thickly, you'll paint yourself into a corner. It shouldn't be hard to be yourself. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Maybe you enjoy winning, but you also play the game for its own sake. Let others worry about the little things and the obvious strategies. You go out of your way to seek a challenge. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Try on a new identity at a party. Create a general impression without promising anything specific. Mystery makes you attractive, even when the true story is nowhere near as exciting. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Precision is favored over speed and strength. Your partners on this adventure want something different from the same old song and dance. If you tell stories and jokes, you're in for some triumphant moments. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Growth can be annoying if you lack the energy to deal with it. Others may avoid you, sensing an unspoken need to be alone. Accept what the stars are telling you. Be happy with the person you've become. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily If you're in search of a good time, look no further. The Sagittarius Moon sees to it that you're the most popular kid on the block. Anything is justified for the sake of your art. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Your ambitions are praiseworthy, but can you deliver? You may have a change of heart when no one else seems to be looking. For your own peace of mind, stick to your principles. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily When you return to an old stalemate, you find the view much improved. The wisdom of age and the vigor of youth blend together in the best possible way. Show your feelings in a gesture of gratitude. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Success and failure are relative terms to those who choose to drift with the current. As long as you're in any kind of relationship, someone will always have expectations. Discard a philosophy that makes your life more difficult. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily A clear understanding of recent events improves your life dramatically. A well-timed, well-aimed offering turns the mundane into sheer brilliance. For now, lovers, family and friends are yours to command."}, {"response": 402, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (17:22)", "body": "Wow, Terry! Look at yours today...wheeee!!!"}, {"response": 403, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (18:22)", "body": "Awesome!"}, {"response": 404, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (18:37)", "body": "Tell us about it tomorrow...what a weekend setup! Hey, after all the appliance problems it is about time you had good stuff in your life...*smile*"}, {"response": 405, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (23:45)", "body": "Watch out Terry! Mine is for tomorrow: I'm trying to figure who I am going to be intimate with if every male I know is behaving himself?!.... Gemini (May 22-June 21) Get out with friends and you will meet individuals you can become intimate with. Your versatile nature will attract people who are intellectual and interested in a variety of activities Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Don't let your lover push you into situations that will make you feel uncomfortable. You need to follow your heart and be honest regarding your feelings and your direction. 3 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Overindulgence will lead to poor health and difficulties when dealing with institutions. Do not take chances while en route. You need to be careful how you conduct yourself. Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) You should be spending more time with friends and relatives. They will help you put your personal situations back into perspective. Don't be so hard on yourself. Try to get your whole family working together put your residence in order. Thoughts of selling your home and moving will be motivating. The change would lift your spirits. The Libra one is a dear friend and poster here...The Taurus is the inhouse male. He'd better not sell the house without talking to me first. I own it!"}, {"response": 406, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 21, 2000 (18:28)", "body": "This is gonna be my only post because I cannot get in without wrecking my hand and arm and keyboard and my charming demeanor. A note: Nancy Thorpe Ahia had a stroke and says as soon as she recovers sufficiently she will return to the Spring full time as she has now retired. She sends her best to all of you and misses being here. May 21, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You're at your best when in control. Concentration on the task at hand distracts you from the things that bore and annoy. The perfect choreography looks completely spontaneous to an outsider. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Intellectual and emotional passions combine in a noisy pileup. You're light on your feet and quick with your words. Assume your natural role, and wait for the universe to delight you. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Say what you mean, and do so in a way that shows respect. An unexpected turn of events may burst your bubble. If you're not careful -- or maybe if you are -- you'll get exactly what you deserve. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily The wind fans your flames. You accelerate, but you're still in control. You grow wise and accepting under the new Gemini Sun. At the same time, you deserve to take all the goodness that comes your way. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Put yourself at the service of someone else's whim. You're just marking time anyway, waiting until your ride comes or the train stops at your station. You'll be able to say when enough is enough. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You adapt quickly to a sea change. Harness a potentially destructive force toward a creative end. Throw a rope if someone is sinking. He or she won't drag you down. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Desire can be your enemy if it compels you to give more than you take. Tend to your own needs first. Hot food or drink stimulates your body and mind. Forget what you were told if it interferes with what you're learning now. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Think big and live large. The new Gemini Sun turns up the heat on an already excellent weekend. Risk-taking is a matter of course, especially when the payoff is someone else's laughter. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Back slowly away from an undesirable trend. You can make yourself believe anything, but today that could be your downfall. React to what's actually happening, not to what you think should be happening. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Your recent troubles are gone like a cheap nightmare in the rich sunlight. You're seasoned, strong and driven by a new resolve. Gain support by talking about where you hope to go next. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Your experience makes you wary of someone who offers a familiar promise. If there's no documentation that you can read before you sign, this deal is not for you. If it's an obvious joke, be the first to laugh. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Your new wings look beautiful and feel heavenly. Unlike Icarus, you know better than to fly too close to that Gemini Sun. Rather than showing off, make your break for freedom while you have the chance."}, {"response": 407, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 21, 2000 (22:44)", "body": "May 22, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Todays situation needs bold action on your part to insure that the problem is resolved quickly before the backlash can harm your prestige at work. Your actions and reactions are made out of a sense of your own self worth and your friends and family know this to be true, so don't hesitate. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Today you feel your own personal power and you are content to play the waiting game with a loved one who has not yet decided on the way to go and you, being content in your knowledge of his/her love is in no doubt as to the outcome; neither will you be disappointed. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) This is a good day to make your career moves in the upward direction as you find your window of opportunity and seize on it. Your convictions will be your strength in this area, for you know that you can do a certain job and you also know that you can do it well. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) You have an opportunity to better your position in life today through a new job offer, but the betterment will not be apparent in the beginning. Starting at the bottom is not all that bad when you know you will be advancing on a regular basis. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Keep the element of surprise in your relationship so that it is not inclined to sink into a boring situation for both of you. Plan a surprise for after work and see the electricity start to spark again. Family men and women should strive to give more of themselves to the children. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Today you should apply the kiss principal to all of your financial dealings, you know, kiss: keep it simple, Sam. Don't let anyone muddy up the waters and try to keep the cost down, remember just because you know the 'asking' price does not mean that the person will not take less if offered. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Fun and exercise is not mutually exclusive, especially if you perform the exercise with a love interest, so try to get your intended to join in with you at the local spa or even get out and jog together, it will do both of you a world of good. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) This would be a good day to alleviate your stress through meditation on your problems. You could find the answer quicker than you dreamed possible. In order to restore your peace of mind you may have to opt out of the present relationship, especially if neither of you are happy. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Laugh and the world laughs with you but if you frown up everyone keeps their distance as there are enough frowns in everyones life to make them shy away from yours. Don't be hurt by this as this is just human nature at work, besides, your true friends will listen and try to offer you some good advice. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) This is a good day to buy or sell property, securities, etc., as you will find most things you get involved in turns into money. If your projects are on time you will see a wide acceptance of your ideas and methods. A raise could be in the works for you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) He, or she, who hesitates could be lost, or in this case be the loser. It is up to you today to go on an all out campaign to 'sell' yourself and your ideas, as you are a highly capable person and your ideas are right in step with the times. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Show compassion today where it is needed could assure your success in your endeavors, You should also let others know just how much you really appreciate them and the good work they do for you. If you stay mentally active you will accomplish more in a week than some do in a lifetime."}, {"response": 408, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (04:14)", "body": "Ha, ha, ha, ha."}, {"response": 409, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (15:00)", "body": "ha ha ha...along with you... May 22, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily A promise isn't as good as the real thing, but for now it will have to do. Savor the mystery even as you solve it. Your vigilance can help the inevitable happen ahead of schedule. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You need to be alone, but it's to create rather to brood. Those who know you as a social animal may be surprised. Just wait until they see what you've done by the time you emerge from seclusion. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're impatient with people who seem to be lost. If you have a better way to do it, step forward and show them how. Your opinions carry more weight after a demonstration of your abilities. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Your overall life strategy has some real and profitable business applications. A wild guess turns out to be right on the money. You have the option to pick and choose your favorite projects. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily The news travels faster than its designated messenger. Even if you didn't hear it straight from the horse's mouth, you know that it's true. A quick, appropriate response is expected. Live up to your reputation. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily A hot issue starts cooling down. Accept that you may no longer be the center of attention. At least you'll be able to get something done as life returns to normal. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You reject the weakness in others that you've recently seen in your own behavior. Try not to be too harsh. The Golden Rule works better as a measure of good will than as a stick for self-defense. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Schedule your important meetings for later in the day. Everyone is still in a good mood, but you want to catch them once their brains are truly engaged. When shopping for treats, a little bit of money goes a long way. irgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Hold your ground at all costs. If you give your opponent an inch, he or she will take a mile. Tomorrow's progress should be more about moving ahead than about simply canceling out today's losses. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily A trial period ends in mutual satisfaction. Step from temporary to permanent without skipping a beat. You're the envy of those who have attempted and failed. What's so hard about doing things right? Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Why do you want to be different? The famous and fortunate simply hire a business manager so that they can lead a normal life. Don't shout when you should actually be speaking another language. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You enter the new week with a confident strut. You know exactly what a familiar situation requires of you. An employer or client is prepared to give you a little extra for being so ready and efficient."}, {"response": 410, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (15:03)", "body": "May 22, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) You'll be in the mood for love. It's a good time to renew your commitment to the one you love or to get out and meet potential partners if you're single. You'll attract a multitude of interesting mates. 3 stars (yeahyeahyeah) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Your need to experience new things will draw you into an unusual circle of friends. Be careful you're not tempted to try things that may not be considered proper to do. 3 stars (Hmmmmmmm.......) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Focus on your job, and you won't be sorry. Your ability to do your work thoroughly will be recognized and praised. More responsibility and higher wages are coming your way. 3 stars (*smile* ...too bad it is not the job you want to keep...) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Listen to someone you trust, whose advice will help you solve your problems and make you feel more at ease regarding your personal and professional problems. 2 stars (Yeah, Lance, talk to me...!)"}, {"response": 411, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (20:27)", "body": "May 23, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Watch those short answers and abrupt mannerisms today when dealing with someone touchy, even though you mean nothing by them, this person may read more in them than there was meant to be. Spend some time with the family today and you may find out what is going on. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Diplomacy and caution is called for today when dealing with higher ups in the business world. Take a little extra time today to give a friend a chance to explain some action that does not sit well with you, you may find out that this person only meant to be helpful. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Reconciliation is possible today with someone that has kept you at arms length for some time now due to an inconsequential mistake on your part. With Spring here things at home start to perk up as you get wound up in the yard beautification that you have planned most of the Winter. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Paint up, fix up, plow, plant, and clean, has got you in a happy daze as you enjoy the advent of Spring. Love tiptoes in on cat feet and you don't hear it until you are fully smitten by Cupids arrow, then romance is in full swing. Don't lose sight of your work responsibilities in the middle of it all. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You find yourself falling in love all over again with the same person and decide it is time for the wedding bells to ring. Your bond will get even stronger now on the second time around. Try not to worry over certain events at work as they are in your favor. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Socializing is not favored for today and it is best to simply stay home and relax as much as possible. Others will find trouble happening with a computer or some other electronic item, maybe even with a major appliance, which takes up most of your day getting it fixed or replaced. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Shopping for electronic equipment today is not recommended for you as you may not get what you pay for. Domestic problems that have had you climbing the walls could be happily resolved today. Children need to see more of you, as a role model should not be absent so much. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) This is a good time to mix business with pleasure so accept that invitation to dine with the higher ups, it could pay off big time for you. Rumors may be flying at the office today but you need to close your ears and ignore them. After hours entertainment may bring a new, and lasting, love into your life. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Today your intuition saves you from being imposed on by someone who is a known user of people, a 'bloodsucker' who would take whatever he can get and take off. You may quarrel with a friend tonight but it will come to nothing. Be cautious after dark. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) A favor you need from a friend may be slow in coming, but it will get there. If you are operating any kind of machinery today be extra careful as there is a slight chance of a serious accident befalling you or a coworker, diligence and carefulness will stave it off. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) You will meet more of the business 'wheels' than usual today; you must be careful to use the utmost tact when discussing your job, as you are being evaluated for a better position, so put your best foot forward in everything you do and say. Romance is in the air for tonight. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You may not agree with an advisor but you should be tactful with him or her. You and a loved one may have gotten off on the wrong foot this morning but you will have it all ironed out by afternoon. A friend may give you an evasive answer to a straight forward question today."}, {"response": 412, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 22, 2000 (21:29)", "body": "You might like to check this daily too - different but similar http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/paraspring/18/new"}, {"response": 413, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (16:22)", "body": "May 23, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Now that the weather is hospitable, deeply rooted plants send up strong shoots. You magnetically attract people who like what you do. Be sure that the info on all important business cards is current. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You could wait another day, but you're not getting any younger. Set a pace that you can maintain. Take bigger steps as your vitality returns. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're bestowed with an honor that may be more of an inconvenience. Be gracious in your acceptance and thorough in your execution. Even if you're not getting paid any extra, this will look great on your resume. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Stay on the defensive just in case things get out of hand. The brakes are hit in the middle of strange and not altogether friendly territory. Be sure that your allies remain within arm's reach. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Take off your shoes and walk around in someone else's for a while. People can breathe the same air and yet inhabit very different worlds. Understanding is the key to innovation. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Shared business ventures grow slowly in rocky soil. Be kind rather than ruthless in your search for a clear space. Others won't appreciate your heavy tread across their sacred ground. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Find your equilibrium and enjoy it for a few days. Partners in a relationship appreciate one another without making demands. The next step that you take is sure to be a big one. Get some rest beforehand. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You can determine someone's position by the questions that he or she asks you. You're given the gift of time. Address your own needs before doing the bidding of others. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily If there's a creative way to invite the world into your heart, you'll find it. There are many excellent people within your sphere of influence. Satisfy your hunger by feeding others. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're startled by your depth of feeling over something that didn't seem to matter. There may be other areas in your heart with which you've fallen out of touch. If you must have a therapy session, do it on your own time. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Go with your gut, as long as that's where the rest of your group is heading. People who share the same feelings are likely to cast the same vote. Consolidate your resources in the place where they'll do the greatest good. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Your success lies in study. Between what you've already experienced and what you can reasonably expect, there's room to broaden your understanding. Save your money for something that you really need."}, {"response": 414, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (18:12)", "body": "Man this is right on for today, I've been cramming system admin and webserver stuff all day. Solaris. Netscape Enterprise. NT System Administration. Vignette. It's been a *heavy* day of studying, about 10 hours worth so far. And the saving money thing is right on, how are other folks doing with their scope. Marcia, can you form a committee to expand the users on the Spring?"}, {"response": 415, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (18:26)", "body": "Sur!, How do you suggest we procede or is that up to us, too? I've brought every male who has ever been clever enough to make me happy into Spring and a few ladies with the same attributes. Do you want us to round up entirely new Springizens or do you want to have me drag the ladies out of Drool to the rest of spring? If the latter is your thought, they already follow me around reading my posts but never say much themselves."}, {"response": 416, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (18:30)", "body": "Mine is more like a Horrorscope than true. These were some others I did not post - too depressing! Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Change jobs, go after advancement, or look into doing your own thing. Your efforts will determine your potential. Don't overspend in the process, or your gains will be fruitless. 3 stars Cancer (June 22-July 22) Be honest with yourself. You must take a closer look at your motives regarding a partnership you're involved in. New relationships are apparent. Do what's necessary to make things right. 3 stars Gemini (May 22-June 21) Stay on top of any personal paperwork that is pending. Problems with these documents will cause more delays or setbacks. Read between the lines and be sure you can trust those involved. 3 stars"}, {"response": 417, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (18:32)", "body": "OverOverspending, that's the tough one."}, {"response": 418, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (20:31)", "body": "I am a thrifty and cautious individual when it comes to spending on myself... It is easy for me to tell me, NO!"}, {"response": 419, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (20:33)", "body": "On the other hand, worthy individuals and causes....*sigh*"}, {"response": 420, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 23, 2000 (20:57)", "body": "May 24, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) The possibilities of love are everywhere, maybe even closer to you than you think. You are offered a deal that is shady at the least and risky at the best which makes it easier for you to turn down. Your latest project is finished and it meets with instant success. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Even though your work has been laudable it is time to come down out of the clouds as this is not the time to slow down and rest on your laurels. Your energy levels are much higher than usual today and your popularity increases as you generate enthusiasm wherever you go. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Put a damper on that independent nature today as you could gain a very lucrative position within the company if you go along with the bosses pet project and do things his way for a change. The actions of small children will test the loving patience you have always had with them. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) The new you look that you have been working on lately must be very impressive as you attract that special person who brought all this on in the first place. Be sure that you do not mistake infatuation for true love as you could spend a lifetime regretting it. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Dust off your backup plan as your latest scheme is about to be shot down, don't blame the other person as you could have brought it on all by yourself. Even if you feel that your intentions are of the most honorable kind, you must still convince someone of this. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) A reconciliation may be in the works for you, as you and your mate finally come to terms with your differences and sit down for a calm discussion and a new game plan. Trust is the main ingredient in any marriage and the two of you will have to work hard to reestablish it. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) You may be the unwitting victim of misinformation as your cummuncations with a certain person stalls on the road of love. It will be up to you to show some patience while the explanations are being aired, it could be true, so calm your doubtful mind. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Procrastination will cause you a lot of trouble today if you let it get the upper hand, losing your job could only be a small part of the woes it could bring on, so try to keep abreast of all your obligations and duties, then you will have no worries in the loss department. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) A shart term contract may be more trouble than it is worth today as it could involve some travel that you are not prepared for as well as cause you some set backs in your regular commitments. It would be best to forego this income as it will cost you more in the long run. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) A lapse into egotisim could cause you some trouble in your career today. You won't let it blind you to the facts if you take a closer look at how you are acting, then you will be able to snap yourself out of it in time. A love helps you in this by warning you of your actions. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Today is the day that you take the bull by the horns and tell off some inconsiderate 'friends' and then take the plunge into a career that you have wanted for a long time. Go ahead and have your fun, your life has just stepped over onto the exciting side. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You are a role model for the junior generation and they look to you for their moral example, so when you do go out and kick up your heels tonight you should keep this in mind and hold everything down to a mild roar. Monkey see, monkey do."}, {"response": 421, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (15:37)", "body": "May 24, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Everyone should know where you stand, and if not, they'll soon find out. Stay relaxed, alert and ready to rock. The world is poised to do you a big favor -- one that you've earned, of course. You'd accept no other kind. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Although surrounded by people busier than you are, you can still get a little attention or compassion. Recharge your batteries without overloading your circuits. The gradual process is still the best. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily It's enough to be associated with a project that you didn't actually launch. A great idea turns into a good habit. You're happy to go out of your way for someone that you love. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily The only way to win is by deciding that the game doesn't matter. Rather than quitting your job, consider its ultimate significance in a busy, crowded world. Entertain thoughts about how you might make a bigger difference. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You find deeper meaning everywhere you look. The ideal host lets his or her guest dominate the conversation. When someone else is on a roll, a nod and a smile may be all that you need. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily If necessary, stay quiet about what you're doing. You'd rather be among people who can help you than among those who share your problem. Answer an ad that's likely to deliver what it promises. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily If you can't convince yourself, who else is going to do the job for you? There's only so much time for an exercise of internal diplomacy. Beyond this quiet eye, the hurricane still rages. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Everyone is the star of his or her own movie. Realistically, how many others want the details of what makes you so great? Listen and pretend to appreciate. You may end up caring deeply about someone else's story. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily A happy surprise hides in the middle of your week. Although a decision is yours to make, you're supported by those who appreciate your reasoning. Good feelings are contagious. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily A figure appears from your past to contradict a story that seems true. You attach too much value to things that might be better forgotten. It's time to set aside your photo album and take some new pictures. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Someone or some memory or experience speaks with the voice of long experience. Trust the prediction over the promise. Put your faith in a growing momentum. Prepare for events to engulf you. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Old power words still pack a wallop when used carelessly. Successful investment hinges on the charm of the salesperson. Attorneys flourish, as long as they don't set their sights too high."}, {"response": 422, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (19:42)", "body": "May 24, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Your involvement with friends or relatives will be eye-opening. Don't be too quick to put money into a get-rich-quick scheme with those you care about. Your friendship could easily be destroyed. 4 stars (Musta been with O'O - he is on really thin ice!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Don't hesitate when it comes to business. You will be able to close deals with ease. New clients will fall into your hands. You'll make all the right moves career-wise. 4 stars (Hope this one is true!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Be prepared to make alterations in your life. Changes in your living arrangements will not be as bad as you think. Romantic connections will be made through the clubs you frequent. 5 stars (Not what I had in mind....) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Although relationships will develop, be aware that deceptiveness is present. Question your partner if you must. Underhandedness will lower your self-esteem and affect your reputation. 3 stars (Poor Dear *hugs*!)"}, {"response": 423, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (23:34)", "body": "May 25, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Collaborating with a colleague is especially favored for today. It is also a good time for romance to blossom. Pay no attention to rumors that you hear today regarding a change in personal plans, things will go on as you hoped. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Socializing with people from the office is frowned on today as you could be asked professional favors that you feel would not be fair to the other employees. A networking acquaintance you made a few weeks back comes in handy for your business today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Avoid taking financial risks today in any area as the chances of loss is very high. This is a great time for romance and you and a loved one make some important plans for the future. A call after dark does your spirits good. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your social graces will be a big asset today as you run into some colleagues at a social gathering. Check your finances closely today as an unexpected expenses could pop up tonight and catch you unprepared to pay. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your interests will lie in sports and hobbies today; creative interests are also in the limelight for you. Charm, with just the smallest touches of aggressiveness will cause a few doors to open for you today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Staying away from long shots or even short shot gambling is a wise thing for you to do as you run a better than normal chance of losing. However, shopping for home and family is smiled on today and you will find some very good buys. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Be practical in your business dealings today as this is not a good time to take chances or go out on a limb for someone else. Artistic interests is currently in favor as well as your romantic life. Love is there, open your eyes. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Spending time with your loved one is reccommended today to restore a lost sense of closeness. This is more important than socializing with friends after work. You may receive some news this afternoon that will not be strictly true. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Playing matchmaker today could go over like a lead balloon; best to let these two get to know each other without anyones help. They are both independent people. Planning a party today takes a lot of your time and energy but you feel good doing it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You will find the behind the scenes business developments act to your advantage when you are given a promotion. A friend has you worried by acting unpredictable when there does not seem to be a reason for it; evening brings an explanation. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You have been spending entirely too much time indoors so now would be a good time to get out and mix and mingle with those you know and love. A romantic introduction could be yours through a friend, if you are eligible. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Connecting with someone special today will prove helpful to your business as you mis both business and pleasure with your normal Grace and charm. A friend may disappoint you tonight but remember that everyone does not see things the way you do."}, {"response": 424, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 24, 2000 (23:38)", "body": "Uncanny!"}, {"response": 425, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (12:15)", "body": "May 25, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Without a serious attitude, you have fewer chances for advancement. Be wary of rubber-stamping any old thing that crosses your desk. The advantages become apparent as you look for them. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Now that the Moon is in Aquarius' house, you generate your own victories. Erase the fears of anyone who ever doubted your genius. You have the bandwidth to be as unusual as you want. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Conflicting parties call upon you to play mediator. You may not understand everything they say, but it may be your job to make people listen to one another. The least that you can do is to keep your mind from wandering. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Keep an appointment, even if it looks as though you may have to wait. There's a general guarantee but no safe bet. Expect the best from others, and they're likely to deliver. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Time slows to a crawl under a new set of restrictions. Patience wears thin and tempers fray. Keep an old grievance to yourself. Ignore any urge to stir up trouble. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Stop thinking like a lone wolf. You're a welcome member of the pack these days. Accept the possibilities that the universe showers on you. Keep the pipeline open by showing your gratitude. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily The Aquarius Moon makes you unsure of yourself. Others seem less aware of the ideas and changes that strike you with such high impact. Money is a small issue for people who have a lot of it. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Tinker with a malfunction for a while, if it makes you happy. At a certain point, you'll need to either work with an imperfect machine or cast it aside for something better. The bottom line isn't getting any closer. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily All at once, there's a fresh load of facts to assimilate. You'll need a new system to fit the current shape of your world. If your clarity dissolves for a while, it will only come back stronger in a few days. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily A meeting strays from the agenda into remarkable new territory. The greatest idea pops out of the least likely mouth. For the next few days, any work that you do feels a lot like playing. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Act brave, even if you don't feel that way. Coworkers will follow your lead if it looks as though you know what you're doing. Learning about someone's family life helps to explain a lot about him or her. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Most of your problems seem to dry up and blow away. Whether you're busy or just coasting along, the next few days should be fun. By all means, talk to safe strangers -- they'll be glad to meet you."}, {"response": 426, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (12:50)", "body": "Whew! If they dry up and blow away I'll be happy. Looking forward to a few fun filled days."}, {"response": 427, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (13:07)", "body": "How does one know a 'safe' stranger from the others? My momma said..."}, {"response": 428, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "Cancer (June 22-July 22) Empty promises regarding financial matters are evident. Look over legal documents closely before you sign on the dotted line. Don't lend money or possessions to friends or relatives. 5 stars (Amen!!!) Gemini (May 22-June 21) Your determination to make personal changes will be admired by friends and enhance your reputation. Don't let your mate take you for granted or get away with being evasive. 2 stars (You'd better believe it!) Scorpio (Oct. 24-Nov. 22) Problems on the domestic scene will get your dander up. Discord will lead to drastic changes or isolation. Don't be too eager to push away those you love. 5 stars (Yeah John, I don't bite! Well, not you, anyway...)"}, {"response": 429, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (23:48)", "body": "...and for our brave and tall and handsome and fearless leader: Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Listen carefully. You can learn a lot from others remembering past experiences. If you apply what you pick up to your own set of circumstances, you will find yourself on the winning end. 2 stars"}, {"response": 430, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 25, 2000 (23:50)", "body": "Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Your adventurous attitude may get you into trouble. Put your time and energy into self-improvement projects. Physical fitness will show favorable results. You need to get out with others more. 3 stars (Yes! Me! and another we discussed elsewhere... Yes yes yes....Lance, are you listening?!)"}, {"response": 431, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 26, 2000 (13:20)", "body": "May 26, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): Being involved with developments from their inception requires you to start slow and small. Be patient while you learn to do unfamiliar things. Don't be disheartened, because you're blazing a trail. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You enjoy the anonymity of being in a crowd today. You're feeling vulnerable, and you safe by hiding. Don't let slacking itself cause negative attention to come your way. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): An emphasis on your job today can detract from the time you can give to your spouse. When others fall short of expectations, teach them what they need to do. Use your position to transmit your skills. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Increased responsibility tests your ability to handle pressure. As your authority grows, so does the need to show graciousness. You can be respected and followed, or hated and obeyed. LEO (July 23-August 22): Your ideas about people are apt to be wishful thinking. Whether you idealize or demonize them, stop and ask yourself why it pleases you to think about them this way. It can't be because it's true. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): Certain relationships can reach a crisis over questions of loyalty. Can the relationship support you in achievement, or is it pulling you down? Communicate your need to be yourself and for improvement. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): Evidence of your effectiveness is slow in coming, or may remain hidden. Lack of feedback makes you feel like your efforts are useless. Focus on your ideals and the knowledge you're living up to them. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): You're prone to doubt yourself today and let others control you. If you can't help this, be absolutely certain you're being guided by people with your interests at heart. You're ripe for exploitation. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): You feel you have outgrown certain circumstances. Be willing to let go of nostalgia in order to make room for new things. When you want to cling for security, let go and face uncertainty. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): What's good for your partner isn't as good for you today. You may feel like you should be blamed, but there's no need to feel guilty over unforeseen circumstances. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): It's a big mistake to let somebody else decide how to use you money. Keep strict control of it today. You're prone to splurge it on nonessentials, so control even yourself. PISCES (February 19-March 20): Your management style should be more like counseling today. You can't tell people exactly what to do, but you can communicate the attitude, motive and intent which should be driving them."}, {"response": 432, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 26, 2000 (13:32)", "body": "May 26, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Don't take it personally if you're unsuccessful. The problem could be one of many, some of which are obviously beyond your influence. Keep on trying until you get it right. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Have fun with your personal freedom -- it's hard to come by and easily missed. Fueled as you are by success, you wonder why certain things are considered risky. Change makes you wealthy in great and small ways. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Once you've spoken your mind and unburdened your heart, there's nothing more to do. Intervention isn't a solution in itself. Let others have their own opinions. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Thinking is no match for actually doing. Expand the range of things at which you excel. If you have any hidden talents, now is the time to reveal them. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Try to keep from falling apart, even as you hold it all together. In a less than gentle maneuver, you could be hauled around to face your beliefs and values. This is one week that you'll be happy to kiss good-bye. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Each change of opinion shoots through you like a bolt of glorious lightning. You're ready to walk an old path with a new perspective. Put your thoughts in writing to preserve this perfect moment. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Imperfect parts are drawn together to make a perfect whole. The thing that annoys you about a loved one might actually be his or her greatest strength. Personal remarks are inappropriate in a business discussion. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily The best way to get someone's attention is to repeat yourself. A controlled stream is more effective than a wide, scattering spray. Turn the problem into an element of your solution. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily There's an uneasy interface between theory and reality. Human behavior is a random factor in an otherwise perfect equation. No one is asking you to give up, but you really should reexamine your premise. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Your imaginative mind pulls out all the stops. Creative, forward-thinking people are drawn together into productive little knots. Love underlines what is already obvious. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily If you haven't already learned to do it right the first time, today's adventures teach you quickly enough. Return your calls immediately. The situation may be unstable and in need of constant adjustment. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You're in love with yourself, but the feeling is easily transferable. A carnival atmosphere sweeps into your life. This is one big tent where everyone is welcome to enjoy the show."}, {"response": 433, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 26, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "May 27, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A fox or a hunk may be just coming into your life now and you are on the proverbial cloud nine as you are introduced to the dreamiest person you have ever met. Don't be too ready to fall as this person may only be looking for fun and games, but if you play your cards right you could hook your fish in a hurry. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your linger longer guests have finally left and now you have the house all by yourself. What is that wonderful sound that is quickly getting to you? Why, it is peace and quiet, but now you are ready for some noisy entertainment so you go out and seek friends. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Someone is walking on your bad side today but it is best if you meet opposition with optimism and a smile, this should confuse them so bad that they just may wind up on your side after all is said and done. A family jaunt to the mall may be just the thing after nightfall. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Friendly fire is what you will be under today as friends and family 'take you to task' over something they feel you have fouled up, and will only hurt you and them in the long run. You have the jump on them as you know that your ideas and actions were positive and you cause them to take a wait and see attitude over the matter. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You Get a great opportunity today to make an investment that will make the future more prosperous and happy. Investigate all aspects so that you will be able to understand all the fine points; never go into anything blind, even a good deal. Advice comes from all directions, make up your own mind. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Love is in the air even if the flowers are not in bloom, as you are always ready for romance. This is a great day for getting closer to that special someone as you find different ways to make this person happy. Friends are not invited today and you two find fun ways of evading them. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Luck rides the wind and lands on your shoulder, and before you deny it think over the events of the day as they hap- pened and ask yourself just how lucky you really are, I think the experience could be an eye-opener. Children come in for some attention today and you take your group for an outing. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Scorpio is a king of a man, commanding and possessive, but where does that leave the female? How about the power behind the throne? The queen. Directing and guiding the others using wisdom and love, as you have found out already. The male and the females will find themselves extra lucky today. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You think of your job, ho hum. Not so, as this job can be as big or as exciting as you care to make it but it will take many things to get there, push and drive, as well as, charm and ingenuity, but when you have finished traversing the road to riches you will have a wonderful sense of satisfaction; take that first step. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Wedding plans for you may be on the way out the window for now as you have met someone new that has turned your head and your heart all around. Be fair to the person that you are seeing now by telling him/her your true feelings, and you might be surprised that you barely beat this person to the punch. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Acting aloof and distant today will not get you in good with that favorite person who is really just getting well acquaint- ed with you, and that will not make a favorable impression concerning your ability to be understanding. Take it slow and turn on the charm if you would wed this gem, otherwise it could be a longer winter than you expected. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A family affair may be just another way to divide up a great wealthy relatives estate and you think it is ghoulish and decline the invitation. You don't have to attend as your love and devotion has not gone unrewarded. Your immediate family agrees with you one hundred percent and back you to the limit."}, {"response": 434, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (11:48)", "body": "May 27, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Money is tight, but not completely unavailable. Apply yourself to the mystery that no one else can solve. The fact that you're still in the game is a point in your favor. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily A superficial approach starts taking you deeper. Satisfy your real needs, instead of just chasing wild urges because you can. The people who matter are now giving your requests some serious thought. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Many things are possible, but only a fraction of them are probable. Late in the day, luck will come to your rescue. Until then, limit yourself to activities that don't require much patience. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Good leadership is impossible in a vacuum. If you need help, someone else should know about it. Common courtesy reaches into every area of your life. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You seem to have missed a chance, but you probably weren't ready to take it anyway. Your troubles are nearly over. By this time tomorrow, the whole thing will look like a joke. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Your plans have less and less to do with what's actually happening. Recognize a familiar pattern that might be wearing a different face. Your aim is true if you know your target. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Some things are simply beyond your ability to change. Give it a rest for the weekend. There's more to your life than the single issue that has lately consumed you. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You make a small, fortunate mistake that immediately feels like a smart decision. Your heart has obviously taken over the navigational duties. Surrender to these feelings and see where they lead you. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Children have nothing to hide, even when they think they're keeping a secret. Why keep on guessing when someone will volunteer the answer? The truth is even richer and stranger than you imagined. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Your romantic journey takes you to deep and secret places. Embrace the return of something that you never noticed was missing. This fleeting moment could turn into one of your most valuable times. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You need a real break instead of just another day of the usual downtime. You're eager for different surroundings and a set of fresh faces. When making a new friend, be sure not to unveil all of your problems at once. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily All is not as clear as you'd like it to be. No language in the world can change someone's mind about a point of faith. You quickly see who your best allies are going to be."}, {"response": 435, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2000 (00:51)", "body": "May 28, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) You will find it difficult to deal with family members who are stubborn and unwilling to compromise. You need to get out and away from the negativity at home. 2 stars (oh yeah...and I was invited to go to Oahu...*sigh*) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Your excellent memory, coupled with the knowledge you've acquired, will dazzle those you come in contact with. You can offer friends and family a multitude of good ideas and solutions. 5 stars ( Yessssssss! and I hope it bodes well for both Cancers I care about.) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Problems that have been plaguing you should be cleared up, regardless of the consequences. Honesty in your personal relationship will be the key to a solid and lasting union.2 stars (One would think so!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) You can easily complete those detailed projects that have been long overdue. You must continue to work on your personal goals. 3 stars (guess I will not hear from Lance tomorrow, either - but did tonight!) Scorpio (Oct. 24-Nov. 22) Get out and socialize with friends. You should look into physical activities that will provide you with exercise as well as competition. Follow through on your unusual creative ideas. 5 stars (Yeah, John! Quit being so distant and silent!)"}, {"response": 436, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2000 (12:13)", "body": "May 28, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Your ship comes in, carrying the holy grail and that pot of gold from the end of the rainbow. If you seek closure, this is it. If you seek an opening, now is the ideal time for a clean break. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Think long-term thoughts these days. There's a cheaper, more effective way than the one that you're now considering. Let your mind go wild -- your genius will amaze you. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Stay home and have a lovely time in your castle. Get in a good stretch to rejuvenate your body with vibrant life. The universe delivers just about anything you want right to your doorstep. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily As usual, you really want to get on to the next thing. In all your eagerness, you might overlook something important. Pay attention to the half-remembered clues from your dreams. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You're happy to lend a hand at turning a private enterprise into a community effort. When you take on someone else's problem, you're stuck with it. You can live with any good idea. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You may not care about superficial things, but others notice them right away. Take your head out of the clouds before your absence irritates somebody else. If you have nothing to say, at least listen to what's being said. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Time flies in the charmed presence of your beloved. Burning up your energy reserves has never felt so good. With your mind otherwise occupied, let your body do all the work. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily As you happily kill time, remember that you can't reclaim those lost moments. You're reminded about higher values and greater efforts. Do what you should be doing, and have fun with it. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Virgo walks the fine line between knowing enough and too much. Your actions are likely to expose any secret that you're trying to keep. If challenged, you have no choice but to tell the whole truth. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You didn't really expect to accomplish much, did you? Even if you can't do anything about them, all these disruptions make life interesting. Take notes on any new suggestions for decorating or reorganizing. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Nurse and groom your surprises for their eventual dramatic release. Some may guess what you're doing by the subtle way that events around you are taking shape. Trust only those that you know. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You may understand it all, but not many will understand you. Avoid handling your valuables -- you might lose them right now. For now, the past might feel like a more comfortable place than the future."}, {"response": 437, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2000 (20:47)", "body": "(this was sent to me today) - Marcia's Horoscope Gemini (May 22 - June 21) mercury . . . . . the twins Gemini Gemstone: Agate May Birthstone: Emerald June Birthstone: Pearl or Moonstone flower: lily of the valley lucky star: Mercury lucky day: Tuesday lucky color: violet lucky numbers: 9, 88 You are inquisitive, adaptable, and amiable with a quick mind and a curiosity which inspires. People interest you. You establish your place in new surroundings with little effort and make friends easily. Although you have a tendency to take on too many challenges at once, learning comes naturally to you. You will excel in whatever area you choose once you decide to channel that energy. Because of your facility with both written and verbal communication, you are able to open many doors. Gemini\ufffds often become successful administrators, speakers, and writers. They do well in situations which require analytical ability. Likewise they enjoy long and successful marriages and win the affection of many friends."}, {"response": 438, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 28, 2000 (23:46)", "body": "Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Your talents will rise to the surface if you are relentless in your practice. Display your fortitude, and you will get the assistance you require from others. 5 stars (Terry's Da Man!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Disharmony has never been something you handle well. It's time to take action. Make the necessary changes to enable you to forge ahead. You've been letting others take you for granted. 3 stars (...until I came along...) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Your confusion will cause you to be deceptive regarding relationships and your present position. You have to be realistic about your dreams before you try to put them into play. 2 stars (*sigh*) Gemini (May 22-June 21) Your need to learn new things will cause you to question what you are doing with your life. It's time to entertain the pros and cons of making a professional or personal move. 4 stars (Oh Yeah!!!)"}, {"response": 439, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 29, 2000 (07:55)", "body": "Wow, star ratings now!"}, {"response": 440, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 29, 2000 (10:57)", "body": "Yeah, on the ones I am not supposed to post without all the garbage they wrap around them...so I just post the ones I consider being read by the person whose sign it is. Watch out today, Terry...they just might nominate YOU for president - and I might just vote for you considering the alternatives!"}, {"response": 441, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 29, 2000 (17:31)", "body": "May 29, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Your better nature takes over. Say whatever is on your mind. Your artful touch is exactly what's needed. A good deal looks better than ever once you become a part of it. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily A difficult group situation challenges your inner harmony. The concept of intellectual property is something that's difficult to enforce. Weigh the worth of a friendship before you cut the cord. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're in touch with some long-forgotten part of yourself. Take this rediscovery for a test flight in your current reality. You're having too much fun to care what anyone else thinks. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You could be feeling edgier and less tolerant than usual. Someone else's initiative might look like a personal attack. If you expect the worst, you'll attract it. Go out of your way to think positive thoughts. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You're open-minded and resilient. When someone comes looking for talent, you're the best man or woman for the job. Amicable, casual, working relationships flourish at this time. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Teamwork means that everyone minds everyone else's business. Even when people appreciate your creativity, there's going to be constructive criticism. Don't ask if you don't want to hear about it. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You can leap in any direction from a good, solid base of support. This is a secure moment in a business venture or a personal relationship. Let your favorite philosophy carry the day. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Someone throws a wet blanket over your fire. Think about it -- you probably were getting a little bit obnoxious. Surely there's a better way to make your point. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily If it all falls apart this week, at least you know the pieces well enough to collect and reassemble them. Even if you're prepared, why take chances? Lost time is lost time, ready or not. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Someone may have forgotten an agreement that you clearly recall. Even the best excuse provides only a moment's satisfaction. Accept your losses and learn from them. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily As Monday dawns, you're indisputably in control. Wield your awesome powers with a friendly hand. Friends and associates will remember this time and deal favorably with you when the shoe is on the other foot. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You catch sight of an old vision taking on a material form in your everyday life. You may not yet have quite enough to get what you want. Now that there's a goal, motivation will be a lot easier."}, {"response": 442, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 29, 2000 (22:34)", "body": "May 30, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Visiting out of town friends or family takes up a lot of your time today as you contemplate your coming plans for the week- end travel to their home. You may be receiving good news today concerning a publishing contract or some other legal matter that will be to your benefit. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) This is a good day to make applications for credit cards or some other types of credit, as you are not likely to get a turndown on your applications as dealing with banks and/or investment counselors are favored today. A business that you have in the works could attract some financial backing. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Catching up on all the news will do you a world of good today as you visit with a friend or relative that you have not seen in ages. financial negotiations will leave you feeling bright and cheerful today as things just naturally go your way for a change. Partnership interests are favored today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) The progress you make on the job today will be readily felt in the pocketbook before long. New chances and opportunities come your way, and it is up to you to seize the moment and give yourself and your ideas a big boost. You will be work- ing very hard, but it is a labor of love because you like what you do. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) If you are a writer you will find this is an excellent day to submit your manuscripts to the publisher as the possibil- ity of acceptance is very high today. Others will find almost all of their endeavors, artistic or otherwise, will be given the highest consideration and acceptance. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Tackling major household projects could be your main area of focus today as things have been put off for as long as you, or the spouse. are willing to put up with. even though you are as industrious as the busiest beaver don't forget to take some time out to rest during the heat of the day. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) You should be able to run across some really good investments today and take advantage of them. Teamwork is your middle name today and you and a partner get all your differences straightened out which puts you and the business back on the fast track to success. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) This is a good day to search for some moneymaking opportunities, they are out there just waiting for you to discover. A word of caution here: if it sounds too good to be true, investigate it, it may be just as good as it sounds! Don't pass up a really promising opportunity because 'it sounds too good to be true'. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Today you meet that all important personal goal and your hap- piness knows no bounds; don't rest on your laurels, go right ahead and set an even higher goal, everyone needs to work toward something to keep from giving up when the daily living and striving gets too hard. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Go ahead and pursue your interests in a special hobby as this hobby may turn out to be your main source of income in the not to distant future. Learn all you can concerning your hobby and before you know it you will have made it into a business. Friends drop over in the evening for a chat. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) The possibility of meeting and making new friends is in the bag as you mix and mingle with your fundraising coworkers. You may even be meeting your one and only, providing he/she is not with you are waiting at home for you. If you are single, don't miss this big event. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Your career plans get a boost from behind the scenes activity from someone you barely know. Hard work has always been your long suit and today your hard work does not go unnoticed, and this makes you feel really wonderful. Take the evening for a stay at home relaxing period."}, {"response": 443, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 29, 2000 (23:44)", "body": "Gemini (May 22-June 21) You will meet some fabulous new people if you take part in community events that are happening around town. Your thirst to try new things will lead you into unfamiliar but interesting territory. 4 stars (umm.... yes, it already has ...) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Don't let your indulgences cause problems for you. Weight gain will be hard to avoid. Get busy and exercise if you don't want to put on the pounds. 5 stars (get on that bicycle!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Your idea of a comfortable home will differ from your partner's. Work together if you want this union to last. Don't forget that your emotional well-being is dependent upon your surroundings. 3 stars (Yup! and let me hear from you once in a while) Scorpio (Oct. 24-Nov. 22) You'll be right on the money with regard to business deals that you've been working on. You can persuade others to see things your way, but you will have to do the work yourself.3 stars (John in a nutshell!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) You'll make the wrong decisions if you let your jealousy stand in the way of your good judgment. Emotional confusion will be reason enough to let things ride. 2 stars ( *sigh* )"}, {"response": 444, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (07:15)", "body": "Work out time! I need to push myself in this area."}, {"response": 445, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (08:46)", "body": "(late nights don't help!! *grin*)"}, {"response": 446, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (08:47)", "body": "(You made these up didn't you???????!!! LOL)"}, {"response": 447, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (12:11)", "body": "Someone Made them up, but they sent them to me and I posted them with my comments in partentheses at the end. I know better than to post bogus horoscopes..."}, {"response": 448, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (12:18)", "body": "May 30, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Hidden things are shaken loose in the tug-of-war between your outer and inner worlds. The old definitions may have to be revised if you want to keep using them. Your heart's voice is loud and maybe not so happy. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You're happy to force a change, whether cosmetic or fundamental. Anything that you initiate will leave the gate at top speed. Even serious business can be fun right now. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Permanent change is slower than you'd like it to be. There must be a more effective way to address your impatience. Sooner or later you'll have to live with the consequences of a rash action. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily You're ready to try something new, different and positive. This is more about improvement than novelty. The sooner you get there, the happier you'll be. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Something pulls at you, forcing your hand. Even if you have no control over the accelerator and the brakes, at least you can still steer. Creativity is your salvation, but it can also be your triumph. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You're a fountain of unintentional humor. Turn an awkward situation to your quick advantage. Friends may be curious and amazed, but they'll never desert you. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Virtue is necessary, but not necessarily comfortable. It's okay to act with caution, just as long as you do something. Someone out there expects nothing but the best from you. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily It's almost scary how you inspire the worship of people who should be your equals. Take advantage of an offer without appearing to use the donor. Honorable intentions will last longer than this fleeting burst of power. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily If you can't explain why you need help, you may have to fix the problem on your own. Some people work by intuition, and others read the manual. Find your own rhythm, and prove yourself to those who doubted you. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Someone that you know well exhibits unusual behavior. It's time to get a few answers -- in a gentle, loving way, of course. Even if you're part of the problem, you can still become part of the solution. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You're free to start whatever you want, although you could face many obstacles. The person who interferes with you is probably unaware of what he or she is doing. Be polite. Tone of voice is everything. agittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You have many reasons to be happy -- make a list just to prove it. All the details of your personal life may not be ready for mass consumption. More people will laugh with you if they can understand what you're talking about."}, {"response": 449, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (21:59)", "body": "June astrofish.net Astrological overview: The big news at the beginning of the month is that Jupiter and Saturn are still running neck and neck in an astrological foot race, but Jupiter, ever the faster planet, pulls out and he just barely graces the beginning of Gemini by the end of the month. Mars and Venus slide apart, but they are together in both Gemini and then Cancer this month, and Cancer gets a special birthday treatment from Mercury: Retrograde. So shortly after Cancer begins on the 21st, the little one starts a backwards crawl on the 23rd. The usual caveats apply. Aries : A lot of astrology research goes into a decent prognostication. And this month looks like you finally get off on a right start with some new cycle which means money, happiness, and a chance to start over. And if I ever hear the term \"reinventing\" one more time, I think I shall grab a deer rifle and head to the post office. It's not an expression which has a lot of meaning, either. My loose definition of \"invent\" means to make something which didn't exist before, so if you're \"reinventing\" then it means the same thing, make something again, that didn't exist before. I hope you catch the circular reference in the term. But this month is no circular reference, other than there are two opportunities, one at the beginning of the month, and one at the end of the month, to do a little inventing. I doubt that you're going to sit down with pencil and paper and draft a new design for a fishing lure. But like the guy who made the now famous \"no weed\" hook, your day to day activities hold just such a possibility. It's not something that you notice right away -- this is a subtle influence, but you've got the gem of an idea that could actually benefit us all. Just remember to patent the idea before you go public. And whatever you do, don't get stuck trying to \"reinvent\" the wheel -- that one's been done already. Taurus : There's one text which constantly referred to Saturn as \"an old devil.\" Before this month is up, you're going to be inclined to refer to him in a similar way, as an old devil. But there's a strange connection in here, and I'm making an attempt to stray away from he conventional mythology associated with the the term \"devil.\" In country music, a prevalent influence in my part of the planet, \"fallen angels\" are required on every singer's album. There's always one song about just such a character. This \"fallen angel\" and Saturn have a lot in common this month. Before you dismiss the ballad I'm alluding to, though, consider that out of the past carnage of the last few months, out of the apparent wreckage, you're going to rise, just like that fallen angel, and you've got a chance to save some one. Personally, and from the volume of mail I've received about this, I hope that some one is none other than yourself. A lick of hard work, a little luck when you least expect it, and a typical Mercury retrograde warning will go a long way in getting you through this month. It's going to be nasty little Mercury period for my fine Taurus friend, but you will survive. Besides, there is that ever present hint of a lucky break, you just have to keep after the hard work in order to create a place to have the luck show up. \"If you ain't fishing, then you can't catch a trophy bass.\" Gemini : My favorite Gemini really has some difficulty with Mercury going retrograde. But the upside of this equation is that it's a good month until the Sun slides out of Gemini, on the 21st. That gives several weeks of things being good, and if you're willing to take a little advice, prepare for the worst with this Mercury retrograde. It's not like it's a long period, but the first two thirds of this month are really quite fun whereas the last third is time when you feel like you just aren't getting anywhere at all. Under a similar influence, I once purchased a delightful piece of \"bachelor\" art work. It was a badly drawn topless woman (rendered to perfection in bad taste on black velvet). My male friends enjoyed this immensely. Female guests, however, found this dubious artwork in very bad taste. I suppose a Venus de Milo would have been okay, but I couldn't find that on black velvet. This particular piece of artwork is just what the final third of this month is like. Some folks love it, but the people you really want to impress find your efforts lacking. And with the planets moving into a Cancer position in your chart, you're going to find that you want to decorate around the trailer house a little. I wearily suggest, from a position of having \"been there,\" that your Gemini self should not engage in bartering for artwork at the end of the month. It seems like your judgment is bound to offend someone. When Gemini is over, then \"zip it.\" Cancer : First it's having Mars in the last stop on the block before it gets to your sign (that would be in Gemini). To a lesser extent, the same applies to Venus, still in Gemini, too. Then, just about the time everything is suppose"}, {"response": 450, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 31, 2000 (00:27)", "body": "May 31, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Romantic interludes are likely if you attend an educational event. Your secretive attitude will intrigue potential partners. Build on friendships before you decide to get involved intimately. 3 stars (Promises, promises!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Your need to be active will lead you to the gym. Physical activities will bring you in contact with romantic possibilities. Partners who enjoy the same things you do will be your best bet. 3 stars ( it's about time!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Dig deep if you want to find out the truth about your partner. Communicate with those who can help you sort out your dilemmas. Ignore the individual who is trying to tempt you into an affair. 3 stars (Yeah, you stand a good chance of losing her due to neglect!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Deal with any unfavorable situations before they get out of hand. Compromise if you wish to keep your present relationship. Your mate may be uncertain about his or her feelings toward you. 4 stars (Again?! *sigh*) Scorpio (Oct. 24-Nov. 22) Ask those who have the know-how and fortitude to help you achieve something important. Be prepared to make quick decisions if you want to complete all your plans. 3 stars (GO for it, John!)"}, {"response": 451, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 31, 2000 (00:28)", "body": "May 31, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is a good day to use your initiative to get ahead on the job, don't be afraid to push hard today for the issues you believe in, as the boss is more receptive to you then normal. A short business trip for the firm could put the promotion in the bag for you, provided you don\ufffdt get cocky. Friends and family have their own ideas on how to do certain things but you do it the right way, yours. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) A new love interest sweeps you off your feet and you fall head over heels in love Be careful though, the stars say this is not the one for you. Be happy with your station in life, you will only move forward when you learn to appreciate where you are now. Financial plans that you have been making will show signs of progress or completion today. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) If you can succeed in love and or business today just turn on the old charm and watch things fall into place for you. Though this can be good, you must use caution that you don\ufffdt mix business with pleasure. An office romance is not the most desirable thing for you at this point. Unexpected guests are not unwelcome guests and you are very happy to see them. You manage to make time for everyone. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Concentrate on theConcentrateCon positive today as you get ready for the weekend of fun that you have planed. Today is what they meant by the phrase \"thank God it\ufffds Friday!\". Contacting friends and family in planning the big weekend will occupy most of your time today. Work may seem like a downer, but hang in there, afternoon is close at hand. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Planning a birthday surprise is just another excuse you use to have some good clean fun! The birthday is a loved one with troubles on their mind. Take some time to help them out, you will be glad you did because their problem effects you too. Relatives arriving for the event may be a little troublesome but you handle them well, soon everyone is on good terms again. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Creativity is your middle name today and your imagination is also on overdrive. Be aware there is a person who does not wish you well, even though not an outright enemy now, this person could become one in the near future. Their primary motivation is greed and you may end up getting in lots of trouble if you don\ufffdt concentrate and think out the up coming situation. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) You feel that a member of the family, perhaps your spouse is too busy or too wound up with his or her own life to give you the attention you believe that you deserve. Lately this feeling of being left out has been all too common. You have to realize that you can not always be the center of attention, and you must give them space to be themselves. You also need to make them aware of your feelings in this matter or things will only get worse. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) It is a great day for progress now as you will have more get up and go than you have had previously, so use that charm and wit to open the right doors to success. At home the family cannot seem to do enough for you and you don't get it until someone slips up and tells you why. A very good friend is wanting to be a little more then friends, this actually is overdue and you should go for it! SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) This is not a good day for exaggerating or procrastinating. You will be caught up in the one and come out the loser because of the other. Stay on the straight and narrow with friends and loved ones today so as to nip these tendencies in the bud. It is, however, a great day as far as \"luck\" is concerned! Might want to get you a few lotto tickets. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Interests of the heart and socializing takes precedence today as you move through your busy world. You may have made some plans for the weekend which you will find has been drastically changed. These are good changes and you will enjoy every minute. The changes will be along romantic lines so look for that aspect. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) This is a good day not to stir up a hornets nest by reopening a quarrel that everyone else takes for granted is over and done with. Let those sleeping dogs alone before one of them reaches up and bites you on the ankle. It is a good day for you to start that new hobby that you have been seriously considering. Also an excellent day for starting art projects if you are so inclined. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Meet with a co-worker today and you will find some good news in store for you, perhaps a project that you have been want- ing. Weekend plans go forward without a hitch and you start it off early today to get a jump on the crowded highways. Be sure you get a tuneup before you leave. A good day for boat- ing if your not nailed to a desk, try and wet a hook or two!"}, {"response": 452, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, May 31, 2000 (08:40)", "body": "Lotto tickets?"}, {"response": 453, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 31, 2000 (12:26)", "body": "Horoscopes promote \"crap shoots?!\" Good luck!"}, {"response": 454, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 1, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "June 1, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today find your esp increasing and find that you know what people are about to say before they say it. This knowledge is a gift from God and should not be misused for purely selfish reasons. You have the advantage, use it to better relations. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Business concerns will demand most of your time today. Meeting with like minded individuals will also give your spirits a lift so why not find yourself a seminar to attend in your spare time. A loved one is valauble to your business and your heart. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Today you stand a good chance of meeting a person that is interested in investing in your business and the sky is the limit. An old friend from out of town comes by on vacation and you enjoy every minute spent with him/her. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Friends are quick to take advantage of your good nature and could have you dancing attendance to there wishes all day if you allow it. Do the favor...say goodby and split! A family member who is ill has more need of you. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Martial problems come to a head today with a big quarrel. Today when the dust clears you will have several paths you can follow ...be careful that you consult your heart and emotions before making a decision; this is for life. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) You may start this day being upset with a teenager and you feel as if your hands are tied. They are not, you are highly respect- ed by this person and he/she will listen when you talk, so employ patience and tact to get your points across. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) The king or queen of logical thinking and organizing should never be guilty of last minute planning. You will have a day filled with surprising developments at work which will be very much to your benefit. Look out for strangers today as there is a chance of meeting an angel. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your vacation comes just in the nick of time as you are badly in need of some rest and relaxation. Put any ongoing martial quarrels on the shelf until you return and use today to get started in a good frame of mind. Be sure to check your tires if traveling. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) An intended move should be arrainged to fall on a weekend when you will be able to find many willing hands to help you out. Enlist some of that aid today to help you get the packing and the sorting out done. Don't forget to treat your help to a free lunch! CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Don't make any hard and fast promises that you may not be able to keep today, just Try saying right out what you will or won't do as this clears the air for you to move forward with your own ambitions. Children may be a concern for you today but you are a rock. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Employees are a source of irritation for you today if you do not stop the rumors that have suddenly began to surface. You could be in for a situation of sorts if you let them go unchecked; if this happens nobody will be able to get along with the other person. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Your computer could come crashing down today so be sure all your important information and records are saved to an external and also your financial records should be on paper (in a book) as well. Print it out if that is all you can do right now."}, {"response": 455, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 2, 2000 (00:33)", "body": "June 2, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) If you are walking around with a really puzzling worry on your mind, then you should try talking the problem out with a good friend, chances are good that this person will be able to help you resolve it in your mind. Your fear of disappointment may prevent you from trusting someone who made you a promise, believe and ye shall receive. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Your career mindedness may have you out signing up for courses that will better aid you in getting ahead. Go for it, you can never have too much education. An opportunity could flow your way today, just be sure you are standing in front of the flood in order to catch it. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) An argument with a good friend may have you upset today as this friend has always bounced back after a short argument, but you may have to look him or her up and let this person know that you truly regret what happened and you are sorry for your part in it. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Do not take responsibilities lightly today as this could lead to a breakup of your relationship with someone you care a lot about. Show this person that you are capable of shouldering your part of the load with no complaints. Children may be extra tired tonight, and that makes them extra difficult. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Being a teacher today is not going to be easy. Students may seem a little extra dense or unable to do the work you assign which costs you more time and attention that you really didn't have time to give. Even if you do not teach school, you will find yourself teaching someone at every turn. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Be prepared for unexpected expenses today before the morning even gets under way. Work will offer more challenges than usual, but you manage to get things working right before quit- ting time rolls around. This will be a good evening to go out and have a little fun. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) An iffy day for you in the investment market and not recom- mended to buy anything for the long haul. On other fronts this could be a very fortunate day for you as a loved one prevents you from making a terrible mistake; that's good luck in anybodies book. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) As executive material, your potential shows through in all facets of your job. Don't change a thing, if you do you may spoil it for yourself. Family interests are high on your list of priorities today and you find yourself and family gathered around the table in a planning session. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Good news is on the fly and it is headed your way, you may hear from a settlement or a lawsuit that you may have been involved in for a long time the prognosis is in your favor. This is a good day to try a few lottery tickets, don't go overboard on spending as it may not be worth it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Your income should take a sharp, upward turn today as the news comes in about your raise. Don't take a loved one too seriously today as this person is feeling kind of low and is apt to say most anything, it will be up to you to be- come the one man cheering up squad. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) A crossed signal in communications may cause you some problems today before you can get yourself back on schedule. A missed appointment that is very important to you can be reset if you approach the person in an apologetic manner. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You have a great altruistic spirit and you will concern your- self with charity causes today, things that are close to your heart. Be sure to save enough of yourself to share with your family as you tend to be the person that everything revolves around."}, {"response": 456, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 2, 2000 (00:40)", "body": "June 2, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Friday June 2, 2000 Gemini, you're beginning a new 4-week cycle today. You're \"in the zone.\" The Force is with you and waiting for your command. What do you want? What is your intent and purpose for the month ahead? Right NOW, tell your Self, \"I want ______.\" Be specific. In your mind's eye, see it happening. In your tummy, feel that it's a done deal. Smile! Your wish is the Force's command. ( Yahoo men are draining my energy but I never felt so wanted in my life!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Friday June 2, 2000 Everyone goes through a four-week energy cycle. Knowing where you are in your cycle empowers you to use your energy more creatively. Today is the last day in the four-week energy cycle you began back on May 7. Your tank is almost empty. You're running on fumes. Be nice to yourself today. Don't push yourself. Avoid people and situations that drain your energy. If possible, leave work early today. Spend the rest of the day doing what nurtures and relaxes you. Fear not! You start a new energy cycle tomorrow. Once again, the Force will be with you. (Poor Dear...! *Hugs* Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Friday June 2, 2000 Everyone goes through a four-week energy cycle. Knowing where you are in your current cycle empowers you to use your energy more creatively. Today you're entering the third week of the energy cycle you began back on Thursday, May 18. You're now at the halfway point. It's time to see the consequences of what you've been up to for the past two weeks. Check your calendar to see where you were, who you were with, and what you were doing back around May 18. During the next few days, it would be good to follow up on, or put to rest, what you were doing back then. ( Half way to Nirvana? ) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Friday June 2, 2000 Libra is an Air Sign, like Gemini and Aquarius. Air Signs like to circulate. Today, with the New Moon in Gemini, you're in your element. Relate! Libra is the peacemaker. Do your best today to lighten up every situation in which you find yourself. You'll be performing a real public service. (if he writes more letters like the ones I got today I might just as well...) Scorpio (Oct. 24-Nov. 22) Friday June 2, 2000 If yesterday was not a \"user friendly\" day for Scorpios, the same is true today, and in spades. There's a New Moon in Gemini today. The public mood again today is very light-hearted and frivolous. If you can't beat 'em, Scorpio, why not just join 'em? Scorpios are known for their black humor. Got a friend you can trust? Get in touch and share your best Scorpio jokes. (Ok John, give me your best shot!)"}, {"response": 457, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 2, 2000 (12:30)", "body": "June 2, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Any further embrace of blind routine is pointless until next week. There's a song in your heart, and a poem in everything that you see. Find a friend, take a hike and rediscover the bigger world. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You like novelty for its own sake. Unfortunately, some of the luxuries to which you're accustomed may fall outside of the current budget. Keep your gaze from wandering. Stick to the point. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You're a natural performer in the presence of other water and earth signs. Even if you can't document the moment, you're likely to have another one just as good, if not better. Art is food for the soul right now. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Be careful not to sacrifice accuracy in the name of speed. It's good to be ahead if you're truly satisfied with your work. You're reminded of your values and the place that they hold in your life. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily End the week with some kind of celebration. The richness of your environment dispels all the usual fears and doubts. Do only that which pleases you. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You're allowed to make just one mistake. No matter how subtle or spectacular your failure, it draws attention to what you're doing. Rely more on your own wits and less on fate. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily It's obvious that you mean what you say. You're brilliant without taking yourself too seriously. Strangers at a party assume that you're the host or guest of honor. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You may carry someone else's load for longer than you'd like. Maybe the favor isn't really necessary. Maybe you're just tired of helping. There's a graceful way to decline any further involvement. Think before speaking. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Instead of going to a foreign land, transform your own environment. Redecorate, eat a different kind of food and change the music. A minor evolutionary step happens once you've created the space for it. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Believe it or not, someone considers you a role model. Act as if people are watching you, and do only praiseworthy things. You'll soon forget the effort that it took to adopt your positive attitude. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Keep your fun to yourself. Choose your partners carefully and discreetly. There are certain sourpusses who might resent the sweetness showered on you. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Help is in short supply. Extra credit requires impossible effort. You crave the wide angle view, but you keep seeing only small snapshots. When you get through today, you'll be home free."}, {"response": 458, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 2, 2000 (23:00)", "body": "June 3, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today ushers in a feeling of happiness brought on by the knowledge that you will be taking a long trip this weekend, and you will start this very afternoon, to an old familiar place where you will reestablish friendships you had long ago and also relive some of the happiest moments of your life. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) A relationship that you thought had stablized and you now take for granted will become a problem for you today, as the person you took for granted now wants out and into something more than a kiss and a promise. He/she is look- ing for a firm commitment in order to start a home and a family. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) This is a good day to start off your new health kick. Try joining a spa or a jogging club to take off the extra pounds. There is a possibility of a raise today as the boss notices your handling of a particular affair and notes your ability to relate. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Another week has wound down to a close and you find yourself avidly looking forward to a weekend of freedom and fun. Go ahead and enjoy yourself, what the heck, the fish may even be biting. Take a buddy or a child along to enjoy yourself even more. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Taking care of family affairs today should be your highest priority as there are some undercurrents that must be addressed if peace is to return to your home. Getting to the root cause of the unrest will be the hardest part, but you are equal to the task. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Signing up for a course or a seminar would be a fine idea today as it will help you further your career goals. Take the children on a long trip this weekend to see the grand- parents, they don't get to see them near enough. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Pulling up stakes and moving to a different town may be just the thing for you, but be sure that you have gainful employment waiting: trying to find a job in a strange town can be hard to do. Friends will confide their secrets to you today. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Weekend plans may be in for a few changes now that all the votes are in and you have been overruled. Don't take it so hard, you would not have enjoyed the first choice anyway. Children are especially good today and this makes you more inclined to go along with the families wishes, quietly. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) A sad event may enter your life today, and you find your- self in the position of being the supporting influence to anothers sorrow along with a broad shoulder to cry on. Your great humanitarian inner consciousness would not let you be any other way. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) \"Debts and taxes and so it goes.....\", reminds you that this is June and another quarterly tax payment is coming up for all you self employed ones out there; don't forget the magic day! Today would be good to make your plans for the weekend, perhaps ready up the boat for a jaunt on the water. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Your attention will be centered around domestic matters and marital discord. Try to get things talked out and settled today as leaving everything hanging can only lead to the divorce court and you have spent too much time in the relationship to just let it go, not to mention the love you two share. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Both your career and your children will demand extra time and energy today as you give a lot of thought to changing jobs in order to give your career a boost, and the children have been with out your Personal attention too long which makes them jealous and unruly. You can get on top of this."}, {"response": 459, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 3, 2000 (00:50)", "body": "Gemini (May 22-June 21) Saturday June 3, 2000 Yesterday, the New Moon in your Sign stirred up a lot of excitement and activity. Today is a good day to channel all that energy into something new. Make contact with two people who are in a position to help you take a big step forward in your life. Expect to get the results you want by June 16. Seize the day, Gemini! (As if I did not get into enough trouble this week as it is...*grin*)"}, {"response": 460, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 3, 2000 (05:00)", "body": "*grin*"}, {"response": 461, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 3, 2000 (14:13)", "body": "(Knew you'd enjoy that!) June 3, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You're the dignified Goat surrounded by a gaggle of silly geese. Resist the temptation to lash out with horns and hooves. Have whatever harmless fun is possible until you can bail out with safety and aplomb. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You feel like the most popular person on the planet. While it's flattering to be so in demand, you really don't have enough time to give everyone. At least you have the luxury of choosing among the best offers. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Your voice falls on deaf ears, or maybe even no ears at all. Think about correction rather than blame. If there's nothing at all that you can do, imagine how you'd recount this experience as a story or joke. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily This weekend, most advantages happen by accident. You show your originality in how well you recover from a mistake. Judge others as kindly as you would have them judge you. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Passing lust or inspiration feels a lot like true love. Be careful what you promise, even though you mean it now. Life is risky enough without your volunteering for more. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You're the first to tell the truth and the last to admit defeat. Show off the shortcuts that come to you so naturally. Even when having fun, you manage to do so with stunning efficiency. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily If you're having a problem with duality, you may not gain any insight today. You see choices and implications everywhere you turn. Your best course may be to do things that don't matter at all. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You're ready for action, drama and gratification. When playing with others, it's your job to ensure that everyone feels like a winner. Pay as you go to avoid surprises after the glow has faded. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You're easily distracted. Try to keep your mood light, even when you want to scream. There are many creative ways to politely make yourself unavailable. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Your job is to clarify the obvious even further. You have the gift of gab. Teachers with time on their hands create awesome lesson plans out of thin air. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Before you dismantle the safeguards, remember why they're in place. Just because you don't like someone, he or she isn't necessarily your enemy. Swimming against the current will only tire you out. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Someone is still waiting for the proof that you promised. Anybody can seem excellent on the surface, but it's what lies beneath that really counts. Stand up and make yourself proud."}, {"response": 462, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 3, 2000 (17:09)", "body": "June 3, 2000 Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Saturday June 3, 2000 The wave of energy that was peaking in your life yesterday is still at high tide today. It's still not too late for you to seize the day. Take advantage of that opportunity that's still staring you in the face. Make that call! Take that step! What are you afraid of? Believe in yourself, Sagittarius, and GO FOR IT. You have everything to gain. (Carpe Diem, Terry!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Saturday June 3, 2000 Everyone goes through a four-week creative energy cycle. Knowing where you are in your current cycle empowers you to use your energy more creatively. Today you're entering the fourth and final week of the energy cycle you began back on May 13. You're running low on energy now, so don't push yourself. If you have been using your time and energy well, it's time now to relax and enjoy the fruits of your labor. If you haven't fared well during these past three weeks, it's time to say, \"oops\" or, \"aw shucks\" and forgive yourself. Promise yourself you'll do much better during your next energy cycle, which starts a week from now on Saturday, June 10. (no wonder he forgot my birthday.......) Saturday June 3, 2000 Everyone goes through a four-week energy cycle. Cancer, you're beginning a new energy cycle today. You're \"in the zone.\" The Force is with you and waiting for your command. What do you want? What is your intent and purpose for the month ahead? Right NOW, tell your Self, \"I want . . . .\" Be specific. In your mind's eye, see it happening. In your tummy, feel that it's a done deal. Smile! Your wish is the Force's command. (Go for it, Dear *hugs*)"}, {"response": 463, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (00:59)", "body": "June 4, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Sunday June 4, 2000 You'll drive your mate crazy with your emotional ups-and-downs. Make a concerted effort to tell the truth when it comes to emotional matters and motives. Try to control your anxiety. 3 stars (Riiiiiiiiight......!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Sunday June 4, 2000 Cancer, you've just begun a new four-week energy cycle. Today is a good time to reflect on the meaning of your Sun Sign. Your Sun Sign shows what you feel most strongly about in life. Cancer means: nurturing, care-giving, bonding; feeling wanted; being needed. You know the importance of roots. Your greatest fear is being abandoned and alone. As you go through your current energy cycle, let your intention be to take care of your Self first, and let everyone else have the overflow. \"Charity begins at home.\" ( You ARE needed, wanted - always!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sunday June 4, 2000 Sunday is a good day to think about the broader meaning of your Sun Sign. Your Sun Sign reveals the higher purpose of your life. Sagittarius means: being a seeker; being on a Vision Quest; searching for more, bigger, and better horizons. You want your life to be an adventure. You're happiest when you have a sense of direction. Your greatest fear is that life has no higher meaning or purpose. Each time you get off track this coming week, ask your Higher Power for direction. (Wow!!! and mine just said to be honest with my mate?!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Sunday June 4, 2000 Sunday is a good day to reflect on the personal meaning of your Sun Sign. Your Sun Sign shows what you want from a relationship. Libra means equality; fair treatment; sharing; peace and harmony. You have excellent social skills. You are the perfect peacemaker. Your greatest fear is having no one with whom to share your life. In all your relationships during the coming week, let your intention be to get along great with everyone, starting with your Self. (Your mate will grant you those...and share as much of your life as she is allowed)"}, {"response": 464, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (02:50)", "body": "(HUG, thanks)"}, {"response": 465, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (07:51)", "body": "That's five stars for sure, awesome."}, {"response": 466, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (14:53)", "body": "June 4, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily A sudden change in the cosmic weather upsets everyone's plans. An innocent social situation becomes unstable. Despite your desire to stay out of it all, you could find yourself in a leadership position. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily You're treated to a walk in the clouds. The landscape of ecstasy is familiar, as though you retain the memory of it somewhere in the back of your mind. Your lover is probably here with you. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily You might have to ask permission for what you hope to do. Try using logic before you throw it all into an emotional appeal. As a final resort, you can skip the despair and head straight back to the drawing board. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily It takes longer to do something than it does to delegate it. Return phone calls and email right away. If you're ready to put your plans on hold, there's plenty of time for helping others. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Get an idea of the game that's being played before you jump into it. Someone's style, whether genuine or counterfeit, says much about the person who has adopted it. Soon you may need to choose a side. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Your brain is your sexiest feature, especially when someone gets you talking. You're allowed to generate without following through. There's too much bounty for you to commit at this early stage. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily The world is bewildered when you shout your fantasy from the rooftops. Having others laugh is almost worse than getting them angry. Cancer might need to come out of his or her shell, but you could do it with more practicality and less drama. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily In the words of the Firesign Theatre, 'I think we're all bozos on this bus.' Everyone's a clown these days. You're on a personal mission to teach society how to laugh at itself. Celebrate instead of simply mocking. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily While your gift might feel like a curse, others really appreciate what you do for them. One of these days, you'll have time for yourself, but right now the universe has other plans. Smile and look as if you care. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Diversity brings you a wide range of happy choices. You make new friends through a shared experience. A deep current rises to the surface, pointing the way for all who can see it. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily The view from the edge bores you when you can't go any further outward. Turn and face the light for now. Work with what you have. In a few days, the impossible will seem attractive again -- and maybe even possible. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Rather than trying to recapture a little piece of the past, move ahead. The audience has scattered and gone home. Any changes that you make now should be for you and you alone."}, {"response": 467, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (14:56)", "body": "Oh man! Did that last one hit me right where I live. Anyone who knows me \"well\" can vouch for that..."}, {"response": 468, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (21:55)", "body": "June 5, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Turning all that anger into attitude and then channeling it into your business pursuits could make you an all around winner today. With that kind of positive 'go get it approach' obstacles fall like nine pins. Start a new file on the most important things you need to do this month so you don't fall behind. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Diplomacy and tact should be used today in all you say and do if you wish to get ahead or get the jump on an opponent. Close friends will keep your spirits soaring with their compliments. A new love walks into your life tonight and sweeps you right off your feet. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Who you know could count heavily in your favor today as you go networking to improve yours' or a friends' position with your/their company. Success must be seen as well as known so it is best if you spruce up the wardrobe and project a successful image to the world. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Behind the scenes action makes itself known to you today as you are asked to do some company traveling, in this case you really do not have a choice so, if you want to keep your job just keep on smiling and gas up the car. Take along a loved one and make a mini vacation out of it in between appoint- ments. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Doing only the things that you know best how to do is the safest route to follow in business today as you may get tangled up with a know it all who knows more about a cer- tain thing than you do, and you might never live it down. A relative helps you out of a tight spot tonight. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Your artistic side is alive, well and showing today as you do some major design work on a website that 'rocks'. This site is your ticket to success and it looks like you made the train on time. Today you can see an increase in your wages, but only if you ask. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Looking at a person with a new insight will show you just how much this person really means to you, perhaps more than you had at first realized. Financial negotiations are favored today and you will see lenders coming around to meet your demands. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't be afraid to ask for a small loan today as you have every chance of getting it providing your credit is good. A major purchase is in the bag for some of you and now all you need to do is get the family packed and moved...a big job!! SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Be generous today with your love and your time as someone who can not fend for themselves needs a champion and you are the right person for the job. An important decision must be made today concerning the holiday season...all the plans are just waiting for your okay. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This is the time that you need to bend the rules a little to give someone some space for breathing. Try not to inter- fere in anothers decision making process as that person must live with it, not you. A love interest may have your head in the clouds today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Gambling is not a wise thing to do as you could lose a lot of money. Any risky financial venture should be avoided until your sign is better aspected for this. Being snobbish is really not like you inside, but without special effort on your part someone will think you are. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Take all promises at face value today as you can not depend on follow through from th4e one doing the promising. The boss may have taken a liking to you because of your good work and this will do a lot for your career and advancement over time."}, {"response": 469, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (23:53)", "body": "June 5, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Monday June 5, 2000 Geminis need to be around interesting people and work in a stimulating environment. During the morning hours, you'll be bored by people singing the Monday Moody Blues. The public mood will shift around 1 PM EDT (10 AM PDT). During this afternoon, evening and tomorrow, it will be much easier for you to connect with the people around you. (Oh Yeah! Goin trolling on Yahoo tomorrow again. Got a civil engineer today for Geo.....*grin*) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Monday June 5, 2000 Sagittarians need to be around bright, upbeat people. They do their best when working in an intellectually stimulating environment. Today, people are singing the Monday Morning Moody Blues. Look for things to brighten up around 1 pm EDT (10 am PDT). During this afternoon, evening, and tomorrow, it will be much easier for you to be your natural, outgoing self. People will be in a more fun-loving, playful mood. (Terry, sounds like we should hang around tomorrow - too bad it is such a long swim!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Monday June 5, 2000 Cancer, you began a new four-week energy cycle last Saturday. The Force is ready and waiting to fulfill your Heart's Desire. NOW is the moment of power. Once again, tell your Self, \"I want . . . .\" Ask your Self, \"How good am I willing to have it be?\" And remember, \"It is our attitude at the beginning that more than anything else produces a successful outcome.\" (Earl Nightingale) (This comes with special love and hope that it is true) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Monday June 5, 2000 Libra, you're in the final week of your monthly energy cycle. It's a good time to ask your Self: \"Do I have a game plan for my life? Do I keep on making the same old mistakes?\" Albert Einstein said, \"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.\" If you've been spinning your wheels for the past three weeks and getting nowhere fast, maybe your life needs a purpose. \"What is the use of living if it be not to make this world a better place for those who live in it after we are gone?\" (Winston Churchill) (Libra, please get in touch with me!)"}, {"response": 470, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 5, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "June 5, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Fact and feeling diverge. You don't want to miss anything, although it's impossible to do everything. If you have a choice, black and white visuals are probably more effective than those in color. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily If you've tried and failed, at least you're in good company. Take it easy for the next few days, until the stars once again shine favorably on your endeavors. Catch up on light maintenance and minor record-keeping. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Strange and wonderful plants bloom within the usual gardens. What remains to be discovered is far more seductive than what you already know. Epicures and wine buyers are off to a memorable start. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily It's tough to escape the monkey on your back or the demons in your pocket. Work with what you have, even if it's less than perfect. These next few days will be a true test of your character. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You enter the new week with true colors flying in the breeze. Your voice is unlocked, and you're set singing. The social butterfly emerges from his or her cocoon and starts making the rounds. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You're levelheaded, focused and unmoved by the extremes of others. If you don't get it the first time, you know that there will be another chance. Pessimistic people are probably just unaware of all the facts. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily It's time to start over and do it all your way. Your comfort level is high. Your personal warmth thaws all the old chills, and you're eager to get your house in order. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Male and female energy circles in a slow, uneasy dance. You sense a possible explosion, but you don't know whether it will be good or bad. Beware of personalizing an issue that's probably neutral. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You can hold several conversations at once without losing any of the threads. Associates and clients believe your every word. You're happy to be here and ready to maximize on what's clearly a rare opportunity. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You may be too nice for your own good. The week is off to a harsh, competitive start. A subtle display of your battle scars should be enough to let the others know that you mean business. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily It's easy to forgive and a blessing to be forgiven. This festival of love is underscored by a liberal helping of good vibrations for everyone involved. Your house is big enough for many guests. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Ask the question when you think that you're ready for the answer. Someone tries to unite an unlikely group through unconventional means. Even if you know the game, you might still enjoy playing it."}, {"response": 471, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 5, 2000 (20:30)", "body": "June 6, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Self promotion is definitely the way to go today, but try not to do it aggressively as you will turn people off instead of helping your cause. Be sure to let your natural charm come through when dealing with the opposite sex, you will have them buzzing around you like flies. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Your charm and charisma makes you a joy to be around today as your sparkling personality bubbles over. This is a good day to purchase a few of those luxury items you have been promising yourself, go ahead, you earned a little reward. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Love is ushered in for you today in a big way. Go ahead and tell that special someone how you feel, and what you want to happen in your life. Chances are this person will be on the same wave length with you and wants the same things out of life. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your career plans are still uppermost in your thoughts and you should be able to make some great strides toward your goals today. Be sure that you are on time when you meet with prospective employers or business backers, it just wouldn't do to be late. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) If you are a creative person with some good works under your belt, then it is high time you went out and engaged an agent to get you the best deals possible. A coworker may be feel- ing out of sorts today or have personal problems, avoid quarreling with this person where possible. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Your good luck continues today as you are able to locate and secure that much needed financing for your business. Your family will descend on your apartment this evening, but since you have not seen them in so long, you are soon in the swing of the visit and loving every minute of it. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Unexpected changes in your life start showing up today, but since the onset will be gradual you will have a chance to get yourself acclimated to the changes without a big shake- up in affairs. Expect a more lucrative job offer that may entail a long distance move. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your ambitions knows no bounds today and well they should not as this is definitely your day. You will find yourself within shouting distance of your long range lifetime goal. you will also see some unexpected company this evening but, it won't be relatives. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Unexpected romance is the order for today as you are intro- duced to an exciting person who is new to your circle of friends. Enjoying yourself will also be your main job today as you enjoy your vacation days. Others will find this an all around lucky day for them. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) If you combine your wit and charm with your natural leader- ship abilities you will find yourself in a position of authority before the day is over. Your spouse needs your strong influence as he/she goes through some trying moments in their lives. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Your thoughts aTe worth more than a penny today as you come up with some really innovative and moneymaking ideas that you find surprisingly easy to implement in your own business. You will spend a good bit of your time at home working in your own home based business and this gives you much satisfaction. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) An impulse purchase may be the best buy you have ever made. this is a big ticket item and in the years to come you will bless the day you made such a quick decision. This may even be the purchase of a business or stocks. Have some fun in the evening."}, {"response": 472, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 5, 2000 (20:32)", "body": "Oh My! I wish I knew which one they are referring to... Cannot have one, don't want the other, and there are 14 online who think I am the best thing in the universe....I need specifics, please!"}, {"response": 473, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 6, 2000 (00:10)", "body": "June 6, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Tuesday June 6, 2000 Geminis are energized by having lots of different activities to choose from. They're motivated by their desire for diversity. Today the Moon is passing through the Sign of Leo, a \"user friendly\" sign for Geminis. You'll be tempted to bite off more than you can chew today. You'll be more confident and motivated to act out your desires. Strike while the iron is hot! Do what you want to do. But watch out that you don't get too scattered. (that means I will have them stacked more than 3 deep? And thre is only one I want and he is not on any of them...oh well. Some very nice secondbest guys out there) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Tuesday June 6, 2000 Cancer, normally you're a sensitive, responsive, caring kind of person. Today the Moon is passing through the Sign of Leo. Leo is not a \"user friendly\" Sign for Cancers. People in general will be in a boisterous, attention-seeking mood. Your Sign is in the \"out\"crowd today. You're out of your element for dealing with the public. You'll be \"in\" again late tomorrow afternoon. Til then, keep a low profile if you can. (*sigh*) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Tuesday June 6, 2000 Sagittarians are energized by jumping on their horses and riding off in a new direction. A project you launched back in the Fall of 1999 was put to the test during Jan. 5-Feb. 12, 2000. If your new venture passed the test, it will become a success during the period from May 3-June 16. You'll have lots of nervous energy to make your vision a reality. Whatever you're doing will attract lots of interest. Strike while the iron is hot! Believe in yourself and go for it! (Good luck Terry!) -"}, {"response": 474, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jun 6, 2000 (04:08)", "body": "(OK I'm ducking!, Guess who's Leo)"}, {"response": 475, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Jun 6, 2000 (08:22)", "body": "Hmm, now who could that be?"}, {"response": 476, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 6, 2000 (20:47)", "body": "June 7, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You and a loved one may be making your wedding plans today. Searching for the perfect house will take a lot of your time, but never fear, you will find it. Work will be hard pressed to keep your attention as your head is spinning with everything but work. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Speaking with a financial advisor today could be your strong suit. Try not to go at things in a headstrong manner, thinking things over is your safest bet at this time. A teenager may need some extra guidance and attention now and you manage to find the time out of a busy day. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You and a partner will be in perfect agreement during the early part of the day but you will need to use a lot of tact with this person in the later afternoon. Don't accept things to be the living truth that you hear from an un- reliable source, check it out. CANCER (June 22-July 22) An agreement that you have been working for can be had today but only if you work extra hard at it; this person will be hard to pin down. Today you have your head on straight and your thinking is logical and down to earth, don't let anyone throw you off track. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Daydreaming is not all bad but it can be devastating on the job. You may come up with some creative ideas but they won't be appreciated if you are perceived of as let- ting your immediate work slide. Family and friends help you and the spouse celebrate your very special occasion. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is not a day that you should engage in any games of chance or risk taking, either financial or personal. It is a good day for matters of the heart, marital agree- ments, and working with a home based business. Children may crop up with a problem but you soon solve it with your logical approach. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Your means of expressing yourself today will carry you a long way in your chosen field. This is the day for you to buy one or two lotto tickets, take a trip on a sight seeing boat, or some other thing that you don't ordinarily do, you could get a surprise. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A rumor that may have been designed to break up your relationship with another person could be just that, a rumor. Don't believe things you hear about others unless the one doing the telling can also do the proving. Second hand news is worthless and inflated. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) This is not the day when you should give anyone the benefit of the doubt as you are under a deceptive trend and it would be best to check out everything you hear for accuracy. You can have fun shopping with a friend today if you just relax and let your- self. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) This is a good day for applying that recent knowledge you acquired in classes for updating your job skills and thereby impressing your boss. A raise may be in order for you. Good news arrives after dark via a telephone call. Relax and enjoy your night out. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Listen to someone more knowledgeable about computers than you are, he/she will not steer you wrong and the advice could save you a lot of money on the purchase. Pay no attention to a certain rumor that is going around about another friend, there is nothing to it. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Got your presentation all together this morning? Good. You will be asked to give it early on and you must be prepared. The chances are good that this can lead to an executive position that you have had your eye on for quite a while."}, {"response": 477, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 6, 2000 (20:50)", "body": "Not the house male, Maggie?! *lol*"}, {"response": 478, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 6, 2000 (21:04)", "body": "This is out of order but funny: June 6, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You're the vision of sincerity in a roomful of shallow people. For a taste of perspective, remember how aloof you were to the last well-meaning soul who got in your face. Casual persistence keeps it from getting too personal. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Someone changed the rules when you weren't looking. You're slow to adjust and quick to anger. Find a comfortable place where you can safely sit out the rest of today. This won't last forever. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Love interferes with your routine, but of course you're not complaining. You're outfitted with wings, a jet pack and seven-league boots. You'll go far, and you'll get there in exhilarating style. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Your emotions are getting too big to swallow. A dramatic display could heighten other people's tension, even if it makes you feel better. Physical exercise is a positive force. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily The human touch connects members of the human family. Grouches and curmudgeons don't stand a chance against your onslaught of good cheer. Everyone profits from your story. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Distraction makes you seem naive or unprepared. You're rated on the quality of your performance, rather than on how much you can produce. Save the low-budget version for a day when no one is watching. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Overflow your boundaries to share what you have. Generosity transforms thieves into honest, productive citizens. Happiness may not be required, but most will find it inevitable. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily It's good that you can express your opinion. Be sure to let someone else have a turn. You really ought to know where you stand, once the balance shifts. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You learned a lot from being in a family, and now you're in a position to use some of those skills. Build consensus, make friends and work as part of an organic whole. All accounts are in order these days. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Be quick on your feet and adept in all your moves. Elusive as your advantage may be, you can still seize it. The differences between friend and foe should be obvious. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You know you're right. You know it's working. All that you have to do now is avoid gloating over your victory. The have-nots deserve a little consideration, too. You should know -- you used to be one of them. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Play within the system, and the system will treat you fairly. The universe frowns on rule-benders today. This could be one of those days when the universe sends you to bed early without supper."}, {"response": 479, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (12:58)", "body": "June 7, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Wednesday June 7, 2000 On Thursday, June 1, you began a new energy cycle. That was 6 days ago. Remember where you were, who you were with, and what you were doing. The new wave of energy you released back then will come to a peak 8 days from now, around June 15.What is your intention? What form do you want this new energy to take? Today, everyone's suffering from \"Moon Madness\" up until 3 PM EDT (Noon PDT). Don't do anything important before then unless it's absolutely necessary. (Yahoo, here I come - watch out world!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Wednesday June 7, 2000 You began your current energy cycle back on May 18.Remember where you were, who you were with, and what you were doing. Your energy wave reached its peak last Friday, June 2. What happened? If you're satisfied with the last three weeks of your life, more power to you. If not, you'll be starting a new energy cycle on June 15. Plan now to make something wonderful happen in your life. Today, everyone's suffering from \"Moon Madness\" up until 3 pm EDT (Noon PDT). Don't do anything important before then unless it's absolutely necessary. (oh MY!!! More fun for Terry! Cancer (June 22-July 22) Wednesday June 7, 2000 On Saturday, June 3, you began a new energy cycle. Remember where you were, who you were with, and what you were doing. The new wave of energy you released back then will come to a peak 10 days from now, around June 17. What is your intention? What form do you want this new energy to take? Today, everyone's suffering from \"Moon Madness\" up until 3 PM EDT (Noon PDT). Don't do anything important before then if you can possibly avoid it. (Take refuge on The Spring - we'll protect you!)"}, {"response": 480, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (17:02)", "body": "I can get on with the important stuff now, since it's after 3!"}, {"response": 481, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (17:45)", "body": "Yup!!! June 7, 200 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily All loss right now feels like robbery. Your pride is fragile and susceptible to minor damage. You'll get your groove back in a few days. Meanwhile, plug the holes to keep anything else from escaping. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily If you want something too badly, you may jinx your hopes of ever getting it. Be more open in what you'll actually accept. Sometimes a substitute can be an improvement on the original. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Know when to stop. Your great idea may be misunderstood by others. There's no room for unilateral action in a bureaucracy. Eat a healthy lunch to better ground yourself in reality. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Lovers, teachers and evangelists are on fire with the force that drives them. People will surely appreciate where you're coming from, even if they don't agree with you. The next big thing is finally here. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You could be locking horns with someone as inflexible as you are. Call a standoff and rethink the situation. A battle of wills can only distract you from the good work that's supposed to be happening. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You're more likely to respect someone who challenges you than who rolls over and agrees with you. With tough love, the Twins goad each other to new heights. Try something that you've never before considered. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily 'Investment' is a broad term used to justify spending money. When shopping for yourself, why not simply consider it a reward? The Leo Moon demands that someone shower you with tokens of affection. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Everyone adores you -- and if not, who needs them? Your sassy attitude and winning ways are the talk of the town. You're likely to win in love or war, although that 'take no prisoners' approach may limit the contestants. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The pressure is on. You may feel as though you're in your element, but this is really an acquired taste. Use the proper equipment and be kind to your body. Reality will catch up with you sooner or later. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're happy where you are, although you could use some company. It should be easy to attract those who are a perfect match for your needs. All the right people can see how much fun you're having. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily If you taste power under the Leo Moon, there may be no stopping you. Whether you're sweet or pungent, a little bit of you goes a long way. Be considerate of those with their own agendas. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Forget the risks and uncertainties. Your heart demands that you speak out. After a quick cost analysis, your inner accountant gives a thumbs up. You get extra points for novelty and originality."}, {"response": 482, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (19:05)", "body": "Hey, brownie points, I'll take 'em."}, {"response": 483, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 7, 2000 (19:34)", "body": "Grab 'em and Go for it! It has been such a rough week for you!"}, {"response": 484, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (00:08)", "body": "June 8, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Thursday June 8, 2000 Gemini, you're entering the second week of the energy cycle you began on June 2. Have you been moving your feet and seeing to it that your life doesn't get boring? Today is a turning point! Ask yourself, \"How much fun am I willing to have in my life?\" What's your answer? The results of what you've been doing during the past week are due to show up around June 15. (if it gets any less boring I will never sleep!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Thursday June 8, 2000 Today you're entering the fourth and final week of the energy cycle you began back on May 18. You're running low on energy now, so don't push yourself. If you have been using your time and energy well, it's time now to relax and enjoy the fruits of your labor. If you haven't fared well during these past three weeks, it's time to say \"oops\" or \"aw shucks\" and forgive yourself. Promise yourself you'll do much better during your next energy cycle which starts a week from now on Thursday, June 15. (flake out time for Terry!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Thursday June 8, 2000 You began a new energy cycle last weekend on June 3-4. At first, you may have felt little more than a vague urge or desire for something new in your life. It's time now to give this new energy more meaning and direction. Was anything particular going on in your life on June 3-4? What were you feeling then? Don't let your new burst of energy dissipate and amount to nothing. Today, tell yourself what you want to happen during the next several weeks. (Oh yes...and I know some willing accomplices) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Thursday June 8, 2000 Libra, if you're spinning your wheels and can't get your focus, or if you're feeling like you're in limbo, don't panic. There's nothing wrong. Tomorrow is the last day of your current four-week energy cycle. It's normal for you to feel like withdrawing. This is a good time to sit back and evaluate how well you're handling the art of living. Are you OK with the way you've spent these last four weeks of your life? Do you have the sense that you're living your life or that life is living you? In two days, you'll be starting a new energy cycle. It's time to warm up your dream machine. If you don't have a dream, how can you have a dream come true? (yeah, Lance!!!)"}, {"response": 485, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (13:28)", "body": "June 8, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): You need to put your attention where your philosophy is. Your political, spiritual or moral beliefs are on the line in small everyday things. Let your every action be an expression of your beliefs. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Friction with loved ones over money is likely today. Perhaps the children are asking to buy too much, or you're spending too much on your romantic interest. Be practical in your spending habits today. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Don't take for granted the people who are close and important to you. Just when you think you know them, they're demanding to be treated with attention and respect. Be attentive to their needs. CANCER (June 21-July 22): When you're getting preoccupied with how people are reacting to you, take charge and give them something positive to interpret. Your self-expression is excellent today, so speaking and writing are favored. LEO (July 23-August 22): Your problems today arise because you fail to apply yourself and your abilities. Don't fall into victimization consciousness. Instead of blaming, move on and make something of yourself. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): Domestic disharmony is showing up today, as well as personal conflicts at work. A separation is imminent if conflict resolution isn't begun. For others, it's a question of minimizing the damage. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): Your prejudices are showing today, so you have to bend over backwards to treat people fairly and kindly. You have to struggle over your definition of \"us\" versus \"them.\" SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): Change is in the air as old projects are completed. You must be inventive about coming up with new goals and objectives. Instead of being preoccupied with busywork, formulate worthy endeavors. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): You can feel overwhelmed as your time ultimately turns out to not be your own. There are conflicts as long as you can't reconcile your duties and responsibilities with your need for privacy. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): Communication is important in group and social settings today. One idea sparks another as involvement with talented and dedicated people becomes intense. Group study is highly favored. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Your selfishness is the cause of bad feelings when people need your help. Give them what they want, because a bond is being formed - you're just resisting it for no purpose. PISCES (February 19-March 20): There are tensions as you find yourself acting on your own without your emotional support systems. Friends and family aren't around to encourage you, so you need to draw on your inner strength."}, {"response": 486, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (13:38)", "body": "June 8, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Bring in outside help to get you through a difficult time. Confusing signals throw off anyone who isn't a specialist. Expect complaints from upper management -- you know how to handle them. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Don't give more than you have to give. The recipient isn't expecting you to suffer for their equality. Enjoy the small, perfect moments that come your way. Allow for extra time in airports. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily A treat loses its flavor when it becomes a habit. Nudge yourself onto a different track, even if it might take you somewhere you'd rather not go. You can't stay in one spot forever. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Your audience is big and appreciative. There is no false move, just another intriguing variation. Even if you're engaged in serious business, it's time to have a little fun with it -- maybe even a lot. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Be tolerant instead of righteous, accommodating instead of arrogant. Most important of all, lower your voice. People will flee in terror from your roar. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Good news precipitates welcome change. Now there's an entirely new angle to consider. Call a taxi so that your mind can wander while someone else does the driving. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Present a unified face, even if you're still in disarray behind the scenes. The client assumes that you know which end is up. It's better to speak in hypotheses instead of actual promises. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You're the cat's pajamas, or if you favor a more natural state, the cat's meow. Your animal grace is enhanced by a nurturing instinct, making you irresistible and invincible. Love is all that you hoped it would be. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily The opposite of tension is complete neutrality. You may be too tired or overwhelmed to have an opinion. For a change of pace, try serving instead of expecting service. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily The people that you meet now leave a lasting impression. Maybe you've tapped into the right crowd. Perhaps your personal growth has taken you to a new level. Either way, be sure to collect business cards. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Your view differs considerably from the official version. This is the wrong moment to air a private disagreement. There's plenty of unconditional beauty in the world that everyone can enjoy. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Vision and desire evolve and mutate. You'll take on any partner who can prove that he or she is equal to your demands. Devotion to the cause has to include fun if it's going to be worth anything."}, {"response": 487, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (20:15)", "body": "Hey, apt. I'm doing some heavy partnering today."}, {"response": 488, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 8, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "OOoooh ! Hope it is wonderful."}, {"response": 489, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (02:43)", "body": "June 9, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Friday June 9, 2000 Gemini, no matter how footloose and free you become, you still have feelings and needs. Periodically, you feel the need to be with people who love and accept you just as you are, not for what they get from you. These nutritious people might actually be family members or may feel like family. Today is a good day to connect with a caring soul. Who in your life makes you feel good for being you? Get in touch with that person today and say \"Thanks for being in my life.\" (don't know whether or not the person still cares...) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Friday June 9, 2000 As Benjamin Franklin said, \"Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time; for that's the stuff life is made of.\" Tomorrow is a turning point in the new energy cycle you began on June 3-4. Today is the time for you to take some form of action to make your wish a reality. Make up your mind! Decide to decide! Your intention is what counts.Don't waste time! (whatever you decide my friendship remains steadfastly in your corner) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Friday June 9, 2000 Sagittarius, you're in the final week of your monthly energy cycle. It's a good time to ask your Self: \"Do I have a game plan for my life? Do I keep on making the same old mistakes? Albert Einstein said, \"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.\" If you've been spinning your wheels for the past three weeks and \"getting nowhere fast,\" maybe your life needs a purpose. \"What is the use of living if it be not to make this world a better place for those who live in it after we are gone?\" (Winston Churchill) (Sheesh - this is a horoscope?)"}, {"response": 490, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (11:31)", "body": "June 9, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today the spotlight is turned on to academic matters, romance, travel, or leisure activities. You can be a winner in any or all of these areas, so plan accordingly. Tonight your social life is a plus and it can turn very romantic indeed! TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Being called out in the middle of the night by a friend who needs your help is one thing, but to have it happen in the day time while you are at work is something else again! You could wind up losing your job if things like that keep up. It is up to you to set the rules. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) That party you may be planning may be just the ticket to lighten up a boring day, just be sure you hold down the extravagance. Romance may take a serious turn tonight and you and the spouse to be embark on a savings plan in order to have a better start in life when the I do's are said. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Following through on your commitments is all important today as it could adversely affect your career if you are thought to be a prevaricator or a procrastinator. Night time is best for you on this date and be sure to follow through on any personal word you may have given to a friend. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Be a little extra aggressive today but do it with charm and pizazz so you do not wind up hurting someones feel- ings. You will also be charming in the way you present yourself to the firms bigwigs. Romance takes a giant step tonight and wedding bells are in the air. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) The focus today will be on financial interests that you have in common with another, either a spouse or a busi- ness partner. You will be able to get your ideas across with little or no trouble since you are both on the same wave length for a change. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Long range career decisions may take up your interests for most of the day as you make that all important decision about staying with the job or striking out on your own. Try to dispel fear and listen to your inner consciousness, it won't lead you astray. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) In matters pertaining to your job or business it should be smooth sailing with very few waves to upset your ship of fortune. There is also an accent on domestic affairs and long range planning for the future; you and your mate are in perfect accord. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Today you will find that weekend getaways, leisure times, and romance plays a big role in your life today as you arrange everything for the weekend. Invite as many people as you can; the more the merrier. Some may be hard to find after dark. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Combining your charm with assertiveness is sure to bring you some hoped for success today in your business world. Listen to your conscious today as you make an important decision concerning someone who is very dear to you. Academic pursuits are also favored today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Today you and your personal goals are in the limelight and you find that you are finally able to see light at the end of your tunnel. It would pay to be more careful with your overall dress and appearance now as you will need to make a good impression on someone important. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Today you should focus your attention on your financial interests and investments for the future. Heed some good advice from a fiancial manager. You may receive some praise from higher ups today, but be sure you do not let it inflate your ego."}, {"response": 491, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (14:35)", "body": "I have been sending out invitations today (before I read this) on a really cool website for organizing personal events, http://www.timedance.com . Try it out for your next gathering. It even has a special design for pool parties. Maybe we'll use it for online gatherings, times where we all log in to the Spring at the same time."}, {"response": 492, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 9, 2000 (20:50)", "body": "June 9, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily It could be obvious what you have to do next. The position that you adopt now should be comfortable, because you'll be here for a while. An email or long distance call confirms your fondest hope. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily If you take the easy way out, you'll end up paying for it later. Be careful about confusing the symbol with the thing that it actually represents. It's okay to ask the opinion of a friendly specialist. Good advice comes free. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily A relationship is ready to be as good or as bad as you make it. You're smart enough to know what you want, and skilled enough to shape reality to your needs. This is a chance that you'd be foolish to miss. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Suddenly your life becomes cluttered. You might be easily distracted by the micro when you should really be paying attention to the macro. Look at the system's benefits instead of looking for what's wrong with it. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Since you're so close to the end, why not just finish? Your positive energy will carry you into the weekend. It would be great to anticipate a completely new challenge next week. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Your issues are on the table, even if no one else cares. If you continue this one-note symphony for much longer, others may start thinking of you as a one-trick pony. Broaden your mind in new ways. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily The little things make an enormous difference. Nothing escapes you today, except maybe the usual reasons to be timid. Surrender to your work, art or loved ones. You'll gladly do whatever is necessary. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily For everybody's sake, you're happy to be closely supervised. If someone else wants to guide the collaboration, you'll just do your part. Thanks to the Virgo Moon, you remain cautiously optimistic. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Efficiency and diligence win the popularity contest. Look back in pride at what you've done. Anticipate the dragons that you have yet to slay. With the Moon in Virgo's house, you're at the height of your powers. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Your heart reveals the truth long before you can find the words to speak it. Stay calm under pressure. Your emotions are in search of an outlet, and they'll jump at the first chance that you give them. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You hold the reins of power in a relaxed, confident grip. You can do someone a favor without breaking a sweat. Friends flatter you with their fierce loyalty. You can easily make your own wishes come true. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You want to share an intense experience that you can't quite describe. Coworkers have their own concerns, and limited patience for a story that never ends. The Virgo Moon imposes limits that you may find frustrating."}, {"response": 493, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (01:22)", "body": "June 10 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Saturday June 10, 2000 All work and no play makes Gemini a dull person. Psychologists say that one sign of a healthy person is his or her ability to play. What have you done lately for the sheer, adolescent pleasure of enjoying yourself? Today is a good day for you to create a happy, entertaining experience for yourself. Go to a movie. Have a date. Eat an ice cream cone. Do anything that's fun. It'll do your heart good. (Have I not gotten into enough trouble this week?! Only a few know how much!)"}, {"response": 494, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (01:29)", "body": "June 10 Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Saturday June 10, 2000 Sagittarius, during this final week of your four-week energy cycle, you're being challenged to strike a balance between your own interests and the interests of those around you. For an individual such as yourself, this might be difficult. The idea is to coordinate (not to subordinate) your needs to those of others. If you're feeling discouraged now, get in touch with a friend you can count on to lift your drooping spirit. (Hang out on a computer dialed into Spring at poolside?!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Saturday June 10, 2000 Libra, you're beginning a new four-week energy cycle today. You're \"in the zone.\" The Force is with you and waiting for your command. What do you want? What is your intent and purpose for the month ahead? Right NOW, tell your Self, \"I want . . . .\" Be specific. In your mind's eye, see it happening. In your tummy, feel that it's a done deal. Smile! Your wish is the Force's command. (It would be nice to hear from you! And, Geo 18 misses you)"}, {"response": 495, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (01:30)", "body": "June 10 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Saturday June 10, 2000 Cancer, you're entering the second week of the energy cycle you began on June 4. Have you been planting seeds and seeing to it that your needs are being met? Today is a turning point! Ask yourself, \"How good am I willing to feel about myself?\" What's your answer? The results of what you've been doing during the past week are due to show up around June 17. (Think I have been replaced...!)"}, {"response": 496, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (01:50)", "body": "(Nevah!!! How on earth did you get that thought??? It's probably my painting, Hey! maybe I won that poetry competition!!!!!)"}, {"response": 497, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (15:47)", "body": "(*sigh* by another Cancerean... Let us know if you won!) June 10th ZODIACTION POINTS FOR TODAY ARIES (March 21-April 19): Today, you're struggling to find a way to maintain your beliefs while not forcing t hem on others, to listen to other people's side without giving in to them completely. You need to find a way to live together. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): What you lack in quickness is made up for by thoroughness. You thrive in situations where steady application eventually yields results. You're apt to feel inadequate if you can't find this niche. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Today, you are in a relationship in which learning independence, not co-dependence, is important. You must retain a connection while giving and maintaining freedom. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Disappointments should motivate you to do better, but you need to fight despair to do this. Rely on yourself when you find you can't rely on others. Fall back on friends for understanding and sympathy. LEO (July 23-August 22): You are in a position of finding ways to convince others while allowing them freedom of choice with unbiased information. You'd love to be considered the expert, but that's a status you need to earn. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): You will have to sacrifice getting things done for learning how to do them better. Take time to go over old matters to re-learn them better. Reminders are helpful, as important details have been forgotten. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): Today, you need to deal with powerful emotions, probably centered around, grief, loss, jealousy or power. Let these emotions go and enjoy the dispassionate study and dissection of the issues. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): You set yourself up for disappointment id f you focus on the fact that you're under someone else's control. Focus instead on how well you're doing your duties and you'll feel much better about yourself. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): Insisting on holding on to the past forces you into schemes and intrigue. Accept change: help it along and participate in it. You can transform along with events, and feel better also. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): Your parental duties are stressful today. You need to be firm and guiding without being too controlling and taking the fun out of life for your children. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Today, you are trying to keep a sense certainty without becoming fanatic about it. You're trying to maintain reasonable loyalty without becoming subservient. PISCES (February 19-March 20): You have to deal with feelings related to issues of power today. You may feel abused by people over you, or you may have to struggler to treat fairly those in your charge."}, {"response": 498, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (16:16)", "body": "June 10 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily You fix something before it even breaks. Others should really appreciate your magic; your presence makes their lives easier. New challenges are sure to keep you moving. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily A small error sobers you up in the nick of time. Sit down and rethink your entire strategy. The next time you move, be sure that you're going in the right direction. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Your feelings have wings, and your ideas have legs. As they said in decades past, 'Don't knock it until you've tried it.' Theorize all you want, but experience is still the best teacher. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily When you do more than your share, others start getting ideas about how to take advantage of you. Right now it's especially important to maintain a healthy balance. A sharp mind cuts to the heart of the matter. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You're allowed an escape. Whether you're off on a romantic getaway or deep into a labor of love, you're able to have fun without distraction. Venus shimmers like a perfect jewel in all that you do. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Tone of voice is more important than word choice. Someone makes a tactful attempt to save you from yourself. Pick up your cues, move on to the next scene and be sure to give credit where credit is due. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily As any good cook knows, the secret is in the sauce. A small final touch comes out with the fanfare of a mighty coup de grace. Confidence results in unthinking excellence. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Dip your brush back into the paint before you spread it too thin. If you don't apply an even coat, you'll end up with something that makes you embarrassed instead of proud. Allow yourself to quit if it isn't working for you. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Of course you're right. Experience and intuition tell you that things are exactly as they seem. Someone finds new respect for you. Relish a moment that happens only occasionally. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Your doubts could be making the current situation more difficult than it needs to be. It's okay if you need to disappear. Just be sure to leave the keys with someone responsible. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You're brave enough to act on your strangest fantasy and smart enough to stop before you go too far. You can still surprise people, even when acting in character. Group identity remains important. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily You strain against the bonds that keep you in your usual place. When you're unhappy, it's easy to recognize what you lack. Be patient. Fate may soon deal you a much better hand."}, {"response": 499, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (23:49)", "body": "June 11, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Sunday June 11, 2000 Are you happy, Gemini? Abraham Lincoln said, \"You're about as happy as you make up your mind to be.\" You're at that point in your monthly energy cycle where Life is asking you how happy you're willing to be. Today, it's time to make up your mind to let happiness happen in your life. No matter how old you are, there's a little kid in you who wants to enjoy life. Just say yes! (oh my! Just say YES?! Wolfie, did you see that?! ...*ahem*...Yes!) Scorpio (Oct. 24-Nov. 22) Sunday June 11, 2000 Scorpio, during this fourth and final week of your monthly cycle, your energy is at low ebb. If you're feeling confused and disoriented, you'll be tempted to emotionally withdraw into yourself. You're a HSP (Highly Sensitive Person) by nature. You're very psychic. It's difficult for you to block out the vibrations of the people around you. During the next two days, drink lots of water. Retreat into your sanctuary. Get lots of rest. Forgive yourself if you're not as caring and compassionate as you like to be. (Bad day for JohnB...but he is ok.....) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Sunday June 11, 2000 Libra, you began a new four-week energy cycle yesterday. The Force is ready and waiting to fulfill your Heart's Desire. NOW is the moment of power. Once again, tell your Self, \"I want . . ..\" Ask your Self, \"How good am I willing to have it be?\" And remember, \"It is our attitude at the beginning that more than anything else produces a successful outcome.\" (Earl Nightingale) (I heard from him finally - and just missed him on IM....*sigh*) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sunday June 11, 2000 Sagittarius, during this waning period in your energy cycle, it's good to have a supportive group or at least a friend to reassure you that you're not alone. No one can live in a vacuum. Engaging in friendly group efforts or projects now may be just what the doctor ordered to bring you in touch with others like yourself. Take a friend to lunch. Better yet, get a group of friends together after work, let your hair down and enjoy yourself. (We're here!!!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Sunday June 11, 2000 Cancer, no matter how mature and independent you become, you still have feelings and needs. Periodically, you feel the need to be with people who love and accept you for who you are, not for what they get from you. These nutritious people might actually be family members or may feel like family. Today is a good day to connect with a caring soul. Who in your life makes you feel good for being you? Get in touch with that person today and say, \"Thanks for being in my life.\" ( Yes! Any time you need to hear it I will say it...*hugs*)"}, {"response": 500, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (09:25)", "body": "YES!!!"}, {"response": 501, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (12:36)", "body": "June 11, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Your grand design is tottering, but it hasn't fallen yet. Quick, objective thinking can still save the day. Use what you've learned. Recruit those who can help fill the gaps in your knowledge. (January 20 - February 18) Daily You'll meet any dare, challenge or bet. The Libra Moon cranks you up to your wild best -- not especially sane or logical, but totally credible to all within range of your spell. Just make sure that no one gets hurt. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily The news isn't quite what you thought it would be. As long as everyone else is changing his or her mind, you too can reexamine the options. People seeking closure should leave the door open just a little longer. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily The Libra Moon floods the next few days with its neutral, crowd-pleasing light. Let the nonessential decisions slide. You'll have enough work laboring over the important issues. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You're excited by something that might be a figment of your imagination. The first clue is someone laughing at your inappropriate response. Regain your dignified composure while there's still time. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You feel a delightful urgency. Your mind is active, and your senses are alive. It would be great to tackle some bold, new project, although you'd be just as happy spending your time on pure pleasure. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You may not be satisfied with the direction that events have taken. An inconsiderate person might jeopardize the civility in a group. Cheer yourself up by thinking how much worse of you could be. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You've waited a long time for this Libra Moon. Put in at least a few hours of quality time with family or friends. You can say whatever is on your mind, and it will probably be right. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Against your better judgment, you feel the lure of a seductive sales pitch. Check in with an uninvolved third party who is familiar with the product or service in question. Function is really more important than image. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Someone is wildly in love, but don't let that steam up your clear mind. One way or another, you'll get the respect that you deserve. Now that you have a captive audience, you can tell the story in your own way. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You spin in circles, unable to decide. You're not alone here -- the Libra Moon has a similar effect on most water and earth signs. Find other confused people and stick with them. There may be clarity in numbers. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Compromise isn't about you losing -- it's about everybody winning. You're ready to be fair with people that you already love, or will soon come to love. Get ready to lead the way to new territory."}, {"response": 502, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (18:01)", "body": "a bold new project, eh???? *scratching chin*"}, {"response": 503, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (19:02)", "body": "Spending time on pure pleasure is more like me lately...Not you, Wolfie??!"}, {"response": 504, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (19:05)", "body": "Oh, and this little kid is never gonna get old....not if I have anything to say about it!"}, {"response": 505, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (02:54)", "body": "June 12, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Monday June 12, 2000 Gemini, you possess within yourself, at every moment, under all circumstances, the power to transform the quality of your life. You're at that place in your monthly energy cycle where a shift is needed in your attitude toward yourself. Life is trying to make you happy. Are you ready and willing to give up your limitations? Today, be willing to see yourself differently. Shift happens! \"Don't find fault, find a remedy.\" (Henry Ford) (Does that mean sell the house and move to California like O'O wants me to do?!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Monday June 12, 2000 Sagittarius, during this fourth and final week of your monthly cycle, your energy is at low ebb. If you're feeling confused and disoriented, you'll be tempted to over-react to the slightest irritation. Your resistance to frustration is low now. It's difficult for you to block out the vibrations of the people around you. During the next 3 days, make it your business to mind your own business. Drink lots of water. Retreat into your sanctuary. Get some of rest. Forgive yourself if you're not as bright-eyed and bushy-tailed as you like to be. (Be good to Terry Day for Terry) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Monday June 12, 2000 All work and no play makes Cancer a dull person. Psychologists say that one sign of a healthy person is his or her ability to play. What have you done lately for the sheer, childlike pleasure of enjoying yourself? Today is a good day for you to create a happy, entertaining experience for yourself. Go to a movie. Have a date. Eat an ice cream cone. Do anything that's fun for you. It'll do your heart good. (*big sigh*) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Monday June 12, 2000 Libra, what do you value? What makes your life worth living? Libra is the Sign of relationships. Today is a good day to be grateful for everyone in your life who truly treats you like an equal. Take time out today to call or e-mail someone with whom you have a close and intimate relationship. Sharing is caring. Click your mouse on myfriend.com (Yeah Lance! talk to me!)"}, {"response": 506, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (19:12)", "body": "June 12, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Negotiations go very well today for you as long as you develope tunnel vision and keep right on the target you are aiming for. Don't let yourself or your attention to details get sidetracked. A love interest returns your affection and this makes your day perfect. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Today you are offered an unusual opportunity to further your career interests and since this is what you have been waiting for, you grab it. Your day should be unusually productive and your progress sure and steady. An all around good day for you. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) In business affairs today you should apply a good measure of your intuition to keep you head and shoulders above the com- petition. You will meet with a sly type today and this is where you will need the intuition the most; watch out for number one. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Take care that you do not walk on someones toes at work today as this is not a good day for confrontations of this sort; you would only be perceived as being argumentive if you do. Marital squabbles may have you upset and out of sorts, but be sure you don't take them to work with you. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may have the power to 'sway mens minds' today so use it wisely and not do everything to your own good. You go all out today to help a friend and this takes a lot of guts for helping is not going to be easy, but you will try, and win. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is an important day for you as you must remember to take your estimated taxes to the IRS office, forgetting today could cost more than you want to pay when you file your taxes. A good day at work where everyone gets along with everyone else, for a change. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) A minor flare up at work may make you want to throw up your hands and walk out, but don't do it. You may want to find a better job but quitting is not the solution. It is easier to find a job when you have a job. Why? I don't know, but it has always held true. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You may be shopping around for a computer or some other piece of electronics but you must keep alert for those who would take advantage of you. If you are not as expert now as you will be, take a friend with you who is savvy about computers and prices, your Virgo friend. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Good news! You finally discover that unusual item that you have searched and searched for and it is affordable! Grab it before it gets away, there won't be another. You do some great work in the creative dept. today as your thinking is logical and highly original. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You may be asked to participate in community affairs today and you agree quickly as this is just the kind of thing that you excel in. This will give you a chance to interact in closer contact with good friends as well as make new ones. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) A good friend entrusts you with a confidence and even though you are tempted to tell another friend you do not, this is a wise decision as it will quickly get back to the person if you do tell, and you will lose a friend you have had for years. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You have some shrewd insights to the things that go on around you today and this will keep you out in front of the field. Plan some evening get together with friends so you can forget all and just unwind. Your nerves will thank you."}, {"response": 507, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (19:15)", "body": "June 12, 2ooo Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Surrender to the stronger forces, and see how you can make your life comfortable within their terms. Anyone willing to participate is still a winner. This week is sure to bring a few more surprises. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Brilliant developments in your personal life put a positive spin on your job performance. This is one adventure in which you can truly make a difference. Enjoy it, even if you can't quite believe that it's happening. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily It's hard to start this week when you can't get over what happened last week. Think positive thoughts, even if you're unable to act on them. Read everything twice before adding your signature. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily When presented with a contract, be sure that you understand everything in it. The 'right moment' only comes if you make it happen. Charm is your best weapon. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily Applaud the lucky person on whom fortune has smiled. You're the one who tallies the gifts and records the givers, while someone else opens the packages. One of these days, the stars will spark your own ambitions. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily Change and success crash into your day from an unlikely direction. Every solution, no matter how abstract or technical, hinges on the human element. Many people share your enthusiasm. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily This is the wrong day to follow orders without question. You may be starting out with an improper model. Use the right tools for this job, before you waste too many resources. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily Take care of yourself. Colleagues and rivals alike will respect you for your resilience and self-sufficiency. The good manners and utter charm of courtship can be applied to any kind of social interaction. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily You're hungry for the unusual, but here you are with a full menu of the same old thing. Consider designing what you can't buy. It was Ben Franklin (and later Frank Zappa) who said, 'Necessity is the mother of invention.' Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're the peacemaker, the chief negotiator and the general center of attention. Your captivating style draws people deeper than they might normally go. If your message has the same lasting effect, you're in great shape. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily Curiosity is cherished among the open-minded. At a certain point, you'll have to stop asking new questions and start making sense of the answers that you've already collected. This may be just the first of many stages. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Your compassion is legendary. Monday arrives with a whole new cast of attractive prospects begging for your attention. Balance your desire to explore with an understanding of how the game is played."}, {"response": 508, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (00:20)", "body": "June 13, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Tuesday June 13, 2000 Today is the last day before the halfway point of your energy cycle. The wave of energy released two weeks ago will reach its maximum strength tomorrow. Today is the time to make last minute changes in your plans, to get your house in order, and to prepare for opportunities or breakthroughs. At this point, it is your attitude, more than anything else, that will determine what will happen tomorrow. (Watch out world...I added a retired USGS Geologist to my list and am delighted) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Tuesday June 13, 2000 Are you happy, Cancer? Abraham Lincoln said, \"You're about as happy as you make up your mind to be.\" You're at that point in your monthly energy cycle where Life is asking you how happy you're willing to be. Today, it's time to make up your mind to let happiness happen in your life. No matter how old you are, there's a little kid in you who wants to enjoy life. Just say yes! (that is what they told me 2 days ago...and what results I had!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Tuesday June 13, 2000 Sagittarius, if you're spinning your wheels and can't get your focus, or if you're feeling like you're in limbo, don't panic. There's nothing wrong. Tomorrow is the last day of your current four-week energy cycle. It's normal for you to feel like withdrawing. This is a good time to sit back and evaluate how well you're handling the art of living. Are you OK with the way you've spent these last four weeks of your life? Do you have the sense that you're living your life or that life is living you? In two days, you'll be starting a new energy cycle. It's time to warm up your dream machine. If you don't have a dream, how can you have a dream come true? (hang in there Terry!)"}, {"response": 509, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (09:14)", "body": "what's wrong with the house? now i'm worried (gemini) *grin*"}, {"response": 510, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 13, 2000 (14:01)", "body": "(think it is mine they were talking about...*Ptttthhhhhht*) June 13, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily As the British say, 'In for a penny, in for a pound.' Now that you've started, you might as well keep on going until you're finished. Promise yourself a reward, although reaching your goal may just be reward enough. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily Your lucky streak may be coming to an end by nightfall. Pack in a few last miracles while they're still so easy and plentiful. Be sure to stand clear of your coach when it's ready to turn back into a pumpkin. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Choose your conversations with care. An early show of wisdom sets you on the ideal track. Those who now call you a loner fail to recognize that you'll soon be considered a pioneer. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily Friends are amazed and possibly confused by a sudden show of self-interest. A growing cosmic itch is making you restless. As long as you keep it moving, you can turn this situation around. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily You pick up speed as the road improves. Take a picture of your life as it starts to change. Later on, you'll be able to gauge your progress with memories of the day that it all began. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily The universe grants you something that you richly deserve. Your more intense qualities emerge. It's a good day, as long as you're free to have your feelings. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily Your critics strike out at you from a weak position. You've been there yourself, but you got over it. Be confident in your methods and abilities. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily You make the situation work to your advantage without appearing to lift a finger. Be satisfied with your conveniences -- you know that it won't always be this way. Back up your data while the system is still working. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Your creative team could use some new blood. A breath of fresh air adds life to an anemic effort. You regain control of your process. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily You're tired of just looking at a pretty sight. You want to enter the landscape and join the action. If others are happy to stand around and watch without getting involved, that's their business. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily At last you meet a riddle that you can solve. It's easy to become something that you already are. Take your physical pleasures where you can find them. The next few days alone will be worth the price of admission. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Now it's time to field test the idea that looked so good on paper. Although you're looking for a specific result, be open to other possible applications. The community stands to benefit from your findings."}, {"response": 511, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (02:13)", "body": "*sigh*"}, {"response": 512, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (16:06)", "body": "June 14 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Wednesday June 14, 2000 Gemini, while your energy is at high tide, you'll be more sensitive than usual to the people with whom you have close, personal relationships. Today, you're wanting and needing more love and support. Be aware that you might overreact to the slightest provocation or sign of neglect. If you want people to be sensitive to your feelings today, then be sensitive to theirs and they'll return the favor. ( my morning has been very busy, very affectionate from afar and fascinating ) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Wednesday June 14, 2000 Today is the last day in the four-week energy cycle you began back on May 18. Your tank is almost empty. You're running on fumes. Be nice to yourself today. Don't push yourself. Avoid people and situations that drain your energy. If possible, leave work early today. Spend the rest of the day doing what nurtures and relaxes you. Fear not! You start a new energy cycle tomorrow. Once again, the Force will be with you. ( hang in there, Terry!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Wednesday June 14, 2000 Cancer, you possess within yourself, at every moment, under all circumstances, the power to transform the quality of your life. You're at that place in your monthly energy cycle where a shift is needed in your attitude toward yourself. Life is trying to make you happy. Are you ready and willing to give up your limitations? Today, be willing to see yourself differently. Give yourself a hug! \"Don't find fault, find a remedy.\" (Henry Ford) (*sigh* indeed......)"}, {"response": 513, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (16:46)", "body": "(I hear you!!! *sigh*)"}, {"response": 514, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (18:14)", "body": "alright, the Force!"}, {"response": 515, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (18:59)", "body": "You da man!!!"}, {"response": 516, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (19:23)", "body": "June 14, 2000 Capricorn (December 22 - January 19) Daily Even if you feel aloof, you're unusually social. Remember that you're among friends who need to be loved, not judged. Your senses are attuned to the movements of someone who is searching for you. Aquarius (January 20 - February 18) Daily The Scorpio Moon leans heavily on the brakes. You're just not ready to accept an Astrological slowdown. If you can't find anyone to help you, it's probably time to start working alone. Pisces (February 19 - March 20) Daily Your rare essence rises to the surface. People are distracted and attracted by a cosmic perfume that tickles their sixth sense. You're the master of a powerful enchantment. Seduce, conquer or escape at will. Aries (March 21 - April 19) Daily The best way to advance is to get more deeply involved. Many interesting things have happened since you last paid full attention. Take inspiration from a competitor who is getting ahead of you. Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Daily The best way to advance is to get more deeply involved. Many interesting things have happened since you last paid full attention. Take inspiration from a competitor who is getting ahead of you. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Daily You do much better when you adopt a disciplined approach. Put those unrealistic expectations in a box and set them aside for a while. In a few days, the climate might be more hospitable for your dreams. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Daily You're too sharp to miss anything. Internal and external cues point you toward a new power source. Under the Scorpio Moon, you can be both playful and meaningful at the same time. Leo (July 23 - August 22) Daily It's time to do the right thing, no matter how awkward or difficult. Loyalty transcends self-gratification. You always knew that you'd have to pay, but you'll look even better if you leave a generous tip. Virgo (August 23 - September 22) Daily Groups of qualified individuals gravitate toward a common cause. In this quest for knowledge, nothing is off limits. The race changes its character when you cross the finish line and keep on going. Libra (September 23 - October 23) Daily Avoid taking any major steps without a mentor or advisor. A broad gesture will have far-reaching results that may not be obvious right now. You can still have a good time without giving away your secrets. Scorpio (October 24 - November 21) Daily You're good and ready to revise, renew, repaint or refurbish. The Scorpio Moon ushers in a new set of rules by which you'd cheerfully guide your life. Just hope that everyone around you is ready for the shakeup. Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21) Daily Your job is to turn the indifferent into something interesting. It's hard to articulate a truth that's too big for words. At the very least you could win the heart of whoever is paying attention to your timid voice."}, {"response": 517, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (20:51)", "body": "June 14 - a little late... ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Don't bite off more than you can handle today, instead of being the ram, this would be a good time to let the little lamb come out of hiding. Trust me, you won't win this one no matter what. So be cool and the next round is yours. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Tread carefully today as you steer for a more conservative path to your goal. You should be sure to practice diplomacy in all your dealings today, even at home where it may count the most. Take the family to visit relatives tonight, you may learn some- thing new. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You and an estranged loved one that you have been sorely missing may have occasion to meet today, and as one thing leads to another, find yourself making up for one more try. Take this person out for a celebration and cement the bonds of love. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You will meet with a lot of demands on your time and/or resources today as everyone you meet seems to need help or need something else. After most of the day like this, you finally escape to your favorite fishing spot and stay out of touch for as long as possible. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You and electronics don't seem to get along very well today, as everyone you try to use seems to go on the fritz. It would be best to try some other type of project for today and save the technical stuff for another time. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This would be a good day to attend to the house repairs or home improvements that have been needing done for a long time. If you have the time, this is an excellent day to buy building materials and hire contractors, if you are not a do-it-your- self'er. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Keep your head down and your ear to the ground today as that will be the safest bet on the job. Don't enter into any office or plant controversies and you won't get into trouble like some of the others will. A friend brings you good news in the evening. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Today is a perfect day for mixing business with pleasure for more reasons than you can imagine. Today's meeting could bring a romance into your life that will last forever,so put your best foot forward. A good day in all ways for you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Your romantic feelings for a certain someone will only get deeper as time goes on, yes it is time to ask the question and find out exactly where you stand, I'm betting the answer will be yes, especially if the person is a Leo. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You and your family will see prosperous times begin for all of you today as your luck turns for the better. A friend may keep you waiting but while you are waiting you chance to meet someone who will be able to bring this miraculous change in fortune for you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) When dealing with authority figures now you should practice all the tact you have ever learned, your position and standing depend upon it. Your wedding plans are moving right along now as the invitations are all ready to be mailed. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) A social event may bring career helpful influences into your life today along with positive financial developments. If you maintain your own home based business, you may find just the sort of help that you have been needing."}, {"response": 518, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "Alas, I cannot..."}, {"response": 519, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 14, 2000 (23:55)", "body": "June 15, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Through the actions of someone you know who is highly unpredict- able you will find yourself in a mixup regarding social plans and engagements. This could work to your advantage as you may miss meeting someone that you would really rather not see. Finish a creative project today. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) You may find that the new person in the office got confused and changed your appointments all around today. Don't worry, it won't happen again if you use tack and understanding in instructing this person. Don't take your frustration home to a loved one, he/she won't like it. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You will run into people today who may have ideas that are radically different from yours, but they still deserve to be heard; use tact and tolerance in all your dealings at work and at home. Encouragement comes from unusual places. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your productivity is high and you have a good day at work, scoring quite a few kudos from your team mates. Evening may bring a few family disagreements but you should try very hard not to be to critical of a small child as all he really wants to do is please you. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Save yourself some major problems today by watching your devil may care attitude. Doing your own thing is very attractive to you but don't hurt, or ignore others, in the process; this could lead to difficulties, especially marital. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) You have an unfinished task hanging in there that you really need to address before you can expect to see any increase in income from this project, this is a good day to devote to completing it; work on it, don't worry about working on it. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) A difficulty about money may bother you today after a friend dodges his/her obligation to repay you. You don't like to have to ask, but in this case you may have to. A loyal friend comes to your rescue in the romance department to- night when someone starts an untrue rumor about you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) With your creativity level at its peak, morning hours are fraught with possibilities of promotion on the job Things tend to slow down in the afternoon but you are still perk- ing right along while the others are lagging behind. Pro- mote your interests today. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Rumors and hearsay may plague your footsteps today but pay absolutely no interest in them as the chances are very good that every one of them are false. Don't let anything you hear today, through the grapevine, color the way you feel about a certain person. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) A friend may seem superficial on the surface but this person comes through for you today when the chips are down. You may also meet with some unexpected expenses that threaten to overwhelm you, but you manage to stay afloat. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) When that old love comes knocking it will be best if you don't let him/her in. Of course, if you want to be used, again, you can make up with this person, but it will only mean more heart- break for you. Invite friends over tonight as a buffer against temptation. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) This is a bad time to loan money on a personal basis, but if you have already, you will have trouble collecting what is owed to you. Your work will be disrupted today due to intrusions by family members, this is not good for your employment future, unless you are already self employed."}, {"response": 520, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (00:59)", "body": "(um....)"}, {"response": 521, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (01:19)", "body": "June 15, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Thursday June 15, 2000 Today you're entering the third week of the energy cycle you began back on Friday, June 2. You're now at the halfway point. It's time to see the consequences of what you've been up to for the past two weeks. Check your calendar to see where you were, who you were with, and what you were doing back around June 2. During the next few days, it would be good to follow up on, or put to rest, what you were doing back then. ( don't need to do that - I know *grin*) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Thursday June 15, 2000 Sagittarius, you're beginning a new four-week energy cycle today. You're \"in the zone.\" The Force is with you and waiting for your command. What do you want? What is your intent and purpose for the month ahead? Right NOW, tell your Self, \"I want ____.\" Be specific. In your mind's eye, see it happening. In your tummy, feel that it's a done deal. Smile! Your wish is the Force's command. (What's the deal with The Force?!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Thursday June 15, 2000 Cancer, you're a very warm, caring, nurturing person. It makes you feel good to make others feel good. You need to be needed. You're at the point in your monthly energy cycle where you need to be taking care of yourself for a change. Take a good hard look at your eating habits. Today, be willing to eliminate from your diet at least one thing that's definitely not good for you. You know what it is. Do the loving thing. Give it up! (I could write volumes......)"}, {"response": 522, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (17:47)", "body": "what? no more girls' night out? (and i didn't see eye to eye with the AM today and didn't handle it tactfully for the most part. but he came around and saw things my way and everything was ok after that)"}, {"response": 523, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (18:22)", "body": "I really need something. I just found out how painful it is to be told \"I love you...as a friend but it is not going any further.\" I NEED a night out with the girls since every man I know has either disappeared or is using me. It hurts!"}, {"response": 524, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (20:29)", "body": "*HUGS*"}, {"response": 525, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (22:47)", "body": "Thanks, Dearest Wolfie! June 16, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A romantic impulse has you busy making weekend plans, just be sure they are agreeable or you will find some last minute changes being made. A good day at work as you get your main project finished in record time and knock off early. Dinner for two in a quiet restaurant is favored. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Don't be too quick to hop on someone else's bandwagon today as it may lose a wheel no matter how good it looks. Go with your own ideas and plans, those you can control to the extent of cutting your losses if you make a mistake. Your spouse cheers you on. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) This would be a good day to put the car in for a tune up and overall inspection while you are at work; be sure the brakes are checked. A chance at a new position may come your way but you are hesitant about accepting it, try talking it over with your spouse as you both must live with your decision. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You have a chance for financial gains today if you stand pat on your holdings until the price goes up. You are gifted with social graces and they are a big asset to you in the evening. Plan a short trip with the family this weekend and enjoy some fun times. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You are better able to focus today than you were yesterday, your powers of concentration are stronger so you see some of the important things you missed, and make short work of them. Romance will play a big part in your weekend plans; you may even become engaged if you are not already married. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Compromise may be the only way to travel today if you would restore peace and harmony in your surroundings. Hard work is the order of the day but after sundown you take off for some of the fun spots in town, don't forget the spouse, if you have one. (Remember the designated driver rule.). LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Being self reliant has always been your dream and today is a good time to start doing it. A few grown up decisions await you, (no matter what age you are), and with a little mature thinking you make them wisely. A new love that will appreciate your talents is on the horizon. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A little extra charm, and a little extra enthusiasm will cause many doors to open for you today in your work a day world. Aggression is out at this time as the people you will deal with does not appreciate aggression in any of it's forms; boldness yes, aggression no. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) You are the type who make a fine student, or a great teacher, as your love of learning and imparting that knowledge to others is inherent in your sign, and today you finally reach your goal as your application to teach has been accepted and you walk the clouds in joy. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Today as you ponder your future the vision of what you want to accomplish has never been clearer and you begin to make plans and adjustments to reach your goals. A weekend trip to some out of the way, quiet, place is a good thought for you as you should take even more time to plan your future while it is still shining in your mind. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Today would be a good day to get your budget for the coming quarter approved as people are in a more congenial mood than usual. An afternoon spent catching up on your business correspondence will free you for the evening so you will have the necessary time to plan your weekend without a lot of worry. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Try not to be too possessive with a loved one today as that could only lead to marital disputes and unrest, it has even been known to lead to the divorce court. Be resourceful today when planning your home improvements for the weekend. Don't overspend and bust the budget."}, {"response": 526, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (22:49)", "body": "Wow, I can look forward to a grease and oil change?! Not the way I figured my life, but the Forester IS due....*sigh*"}, {"response": 527, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (23:50)", "body": "I'm winding up an 18 hour day, I did a lot of digging to figure out how to set up these Sun Servers but finally got it done. Two Enterprise 450s and three Enterprise 250s are talking to the world!"}, {"response": 528, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (00:38)", "body": "June 16, 2000 Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Friday June 16, 2000 Sagittarius, you began a new four-week energy cycle yesterday. The Force is ready and waiting to fulfill your Heart's Desire. NOW is the moment of power. Once again, tell your Self, \"I want ______.\" Ask your Self, \"How good am I willing to have it be?\" And remember, \"It is our attitude at the beginning that more than anything else produces a successful outcome.\" (Earl Nightingale) There's a Full Moon today in the Sign of Sagittarius. Steer clear of the loonies! (I would Imagine, Very Good, Indeed!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Friday June 16, 2000 As Benjamin Franklin said, \" Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time; for that's the stuff life is made of.\" Tomorrow is a turning point in the new energy cycle you began on June 10. Today is the time for you to take some form of action to make your wish a reality. Make up your mind! Decide to decide! Your intention is what counts. (There's a Full Moon today. Steer clear of the loonies!) (Think I am out of his life despite of this avowals...but, never say never) Gemini (May 22-June 21) Friday June 16, 2000 \"There is a tide in the affairs of men which, taken at its flood, leads on to fortune.\" (Shakespeare) Today, during the Full Moon, is a good time to seek the support or resources you need for whatever you've been working on during the past two weeks. If your intention to make something happen was strong, you'll be seeing some results now. During the next two weeks, follow through on what you started. Join forces with the people who share your interest and enthusiasm for doing something new. ( I as sure trying.....) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Friday June 16, 2000 Today is the last day before the halfway point of your energy cycle. The wave of energy released two weeks ago will reach its maximum strength tomorrow. Today is the time to make last minute changes in your plans, to get your house in order, and to prepare for opportunities or breakthroughs. At this point, it is your attitude -- more than anything else -- that will determine what will happen tomorrow. \"The higher you go, the better the attitude.\" (Earl Nightingale) There's a Full Moon today. Steer clear of the loonies! (hugs of support)"}, {"response": 529, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (00:41)", "body": "No loonie toonies, ok."}, {"response": 530, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (08:32)", "body": "From the earlier one: (me)Cancer: Plan a short trip with the family this weekend and enjoy some fun times. (him) Leo: Romance will play a big part in your weekend plans The hotel room is booked for Sunday night!!!!! Oh for some peace and quiet and privacy. (what loonies, where, tell me and I'll steer clear of them!)"}, {"response": 531, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (09:11)", "body": "gemini: what plans have i been working on the past two weeks? oh, wait, i'm leaving the country today. but that thing about the brake check has me a bit scared. (think it was their gratuitous safety plug though) maggie: you go and have some fun! *woohoo*"}, {"response": 532, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (12:29)", "body": "Maggie and Tony........Yessssssssss! Enjoy! I guess this Gemini gets to do tha brake job because there is nothing planned here...*sigh*"}, {"response": 533, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (03:55)", "body": "June 17, 2000 Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Saturday June 17, 2000 Sagittarius, what do you value? What is it that makes your life worth living? One thing that is extremely important for Sagittarians is for their lives to have a sense of meaning and purpose. Today, be grateful for all the people in your life who inspire you to look upward and to go higher. Promise yourself that you'll never stop being a seeker. Cancer (June 22-July 22) Saturday June 17, 2000 Today you're entering the third week of the energy cycle you began back on Sunday, June 4. You're now at the halfway point. It's time to see the consequences of what you've been up to for the past two weeks. Check your calendar to see where you were, whom you were with, and what you were doing back around June 4. During the next few days, it would be good to follow up on, or put to rest, what you were doing back then. Gemini (May 22-June 21) Saturday June 17, 2000 Gemini, your current energy cycle peaked two days ago. The wave of energy you experienced then has not yet subsided. Today your emotions are more intense than usual. You can tell by the way people are reacting to you. You may be drawn to certain types of people you normally don't approach. You're experiencing feelings and moods that are very different. What was going on with you two days ago? Are you feeling now what was too deep or strong for you to feel back then? If you're feeling strange or confused, talk to a close friend or anybody you can totally trust. Get it off your chest! (oh my, tell me about it. It has been amazing!!!)"}, {"response": 534, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (05:18)", "body": "(my memory doesn't go back that far!!!!*grin*)"}, {"response": 535, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (11:40)", "body": "uh oh! i've got no idea what i was thinking about two days ago!"}, {"response": 536, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (12:18)", "body": "(*grin* as do I and what I was thinking....think we discussed that...) June 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Saturday is your day and time to howl! Consider having a get together with a few good friends. Weather permitting, a back- yard Bar-B-Que sounds like fun. Be especially careful that in your exuberance you do not say something that accidentally wounds another. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) You do not have to take care of the world. Your friends and acquaintances ask more of you than you want to do. Saying no is the best way of separating true friends from your hangers on. Later today your energies run high so go out and enjoy yourself but make it an early night. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) All things come to those who wait and you will find most of your answers by listening quietly. Quit worrying and take this Saturday to get out the old folding lounge and sack out in the back yard with a magazine, a glass of tea, birds song, and you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You may have to put off your weekend plans because friends and family place heavy demands on your time and resources today. An adult son/daughter may have problems that only you can solve, so be prepared. Late afternoon brings peace and quiet by clearing your mind with a good book . LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A telephone call, or letter from a good friend you haven't heard from in a long time could cheer you immensely. Guard against doing anything hasty or rash today as this is not a good day to make a firm life decision. Take time to get close to your spouse or shore up a flagging relationship. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Someone who has been false to you in the past is interested in getting back together again. Be careful. Caution is your keynote for today but with your sense of discernment you should uncover the truth and come through with flying colors. All that glitters is not gold and that goes for relationships, especially today. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Your nerves and mental processes need that rest you have been promising yourself. Go boating, driving, or even hula hooping if you must, but get away from it all. Rainy day? Go rent a motel room and spend the day read- ing or relaxing with your spouse. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) The Scorpion may feel like giving a nasty sting today to the people who disagree with you. But put the brakes on and look deep inside for the cause of your unrest. You are capable of finding, facing, and defeating any short- comings on your part that is upsetting you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Today you should renew your energies by doing some fun activity in or around water. Fishing, boating, but not swimming yet as it may not have warmed up enough in your part of the country. Children are particularly sensitive today so you may see yourself reflected in their eyes. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) After a hectic week you should take time to recharge your batteries. Go fishing, do a little yard puttering or take a leisurely ride in the country. Whatever you do make plans to get out and enjoy the healing warmth of Gods wonderful sunshine and fresh air. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Don't be fooled by someone you have met recently or by a friend who has played you false in the past. take this Saturday to reevaluate your priorities. You are going to need that stubborn streak you have in order to hold off those who would take advantage of your generosity. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Today is just right for applying your energy and drive into getting ahead on your job or any endeavor where you can apply the skills you have accumulated over the years. You could persuade that special person that you are ready to try again. Love is in full bloom."}, {"response": 537, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (17:30)", "body": "\"not swimming\". Not not swimming. It's warm enough, believe me."}, {"response": 538, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (17:39)", "body": "Go Swimming... You earned the right and it is warm enough!!!"}, {"response": 539, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (18:27)", "body": "ok, does sacking out in an airport mean the same thing as sacking out in a lounge chair? i think not. but, patience paid off and now i'm flying firstclass to germany on monday."}, {"response": 540, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (18:46)", "body": "Fingers crossed BIG TIME and *hugs* Wolfie - that's gotta be miserable!"}, {"response": 541, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Jun 18, 2000 (00:14)", "body": "Have a good trip!"}, {"response": 542, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 18, 2000 (00:17)", "body": "June 18, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Sunday June 18, 2000 Gemini, don't be surprised if you have some strong feelings today about sex, money or joint possessions. You're in a space where you're sensitive about getting or protecting what you feel is rightfully yours. These may be old feelings you haven't yet resolved or feelings about events that occurred only recently. In any case, they're your feelings. If you're feeling envy, resentment or jealousy, write the offending party a letter. Say exactly what you feel and think, then burn it and flush the ashes down the sink. (oh man - yes....I know!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Sunday June 18, 2000 Cancer, you're at that place in your monthly cycle where your energy is at high tide. You'll be more sensitive than usual to the people with whom you have close, personal relationships. Today, you're wanting and needing more love and support. Be aware that you might overreact to the slightest provocation or sign of neglect. If you want people to be sensitive to your feelings today, then be sensitive to theirs and they'll return the favor. (Hugging you warmly and tenderly - You're gonna need it!) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Sunday June 18, 2000 Libra, no matter how mature and independent you become, you still have feelings and needs. Periodically, you feel the need to be with people who love and accept you for who you are, not for what they get from you. These nutritious people might actually be family members or may feel like family. Today is a good day to connect with a caring soul. Who in your life makes you feel good for being you? If you feel like it, get in touch with that person today and say, \"Thanks for being in my life.\" (Yo Lance! talk to me!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sunday June 18, 2000 Each Sign of the Zodiac receives both a gift and a challenge from the Sign that follows it. Sagittarius is followed by Capricorn (12/22-1/20). The Capricorns in your life teach you the value of being self-reliant and self-sufficient. They challenge you to be practical and put your knowledge to good use. Be grateful for the Capricorns in your life. They care for you. They just don't know how to show it! (Guess I am no help to you today.......I'll go post and ruffle some feathers!)"}, {"response": 543, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 18, 2000 (23:06)", "body": "June 19, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is a great time for dealing with influential people and the signing of contracts, your terms are easier to get today than any other time this week. You and a loved one are having problems right now but with love and understanding you will be able to work the situation out before it becomes a threat to your happiness. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) A meeting with an investment counselor could save, or make, you a lot of money today if you pay close attention to what he is telling you. Your business is beginning to pick up now that the weather is clearing, and it is a good time to hire some reliable help. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Don't be caught short in a coming emergency. Start your savings plan now and stick to it so you will not have your life style bent out of shape in the near future. This is not a good time to stick money in risky invest- ments, or in a business that may not be what it is cracked up to be. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Where your job interests are concerned you must beard the lion in his lair and aggressively, (but nicely), ask for that raise you know that you deserve. A family crisis may have you upset now, but these kind of things blow over and you will be much stronger because of it. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Collaboration efforts finally bear fruit and you should see your brain child published in the near future, contracts may be offered today. Others will find that working con- ditions are greatly improved with the addition of some innovative thinking by the powers that be. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) A project that you have been working on nears completion but you find an unexpected problem that will give you some hard work solving but you manage to work through it. A weekend of fun may have you more tired than you care to admit, so make it an early day, if you can, and take a rest. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Try not to be too harsh when speaking with a coworker today as it could lead to hard feelings and ruin your enjoyment of your position. A problem with a teen may have your nerves on edge, but paste a smile on and keep going, things will straighten themselves out if the teen is allowed to confront her own problem. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your creativity juices are flowing today and you come up with some really good money making ideas that you know will work. A new hobby suddenly turns into a new, success- ful, business. A family get together left hard feelings, but you soon set things right. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Nerves are your middle name and your main affliction. You have to learn to let go and let people work their own problems out, you can't be held responsible for everyone: try to take a complete day just doing what you enjoy and refusing to worry; surprise yourself at the results. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Love, love, love, Spring has gotten all your fancies in tow and you are abloom like the flowers of Spring. Be careful that this is the real thing, and if you think it is, then start writing up the invitations as you will be asked that all important question of the heart, and we know what you will answer. YES. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) You will see a big increase in your popularity today as you have to turn down a lot of invitations to social affairs. Try to attend as many as you can, though, as this is very good for your public image, and will be to your advantage at a future time when you may seek some type of election. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Today you will be given a major opportunity to get ahead, either in the position you already hold, or one with another company altogether. Your family supports your decision, and will stick by you during the transition period when you may have to do a lot of traveling."}, {"response": 544, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (17:11)", "body": "June 19, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Monday June 19, 2000 Gemini, if anything significant occurred 4-5 days ago when your energy was at its peak level, today's a good time to figure out what to make of it. First of all, what happened or didn't happen? In either case, are you happy or unhappy about it? Why? What should you have done, or done differently, 4-5 days ago? If nothing significant happens during this 4 week energy cycle, don't worry. There will always be another, and another . . . . (I havested a nest of vipers all demanding me and the resident one is none to happy. Would I have changed anything? Oh No! What a ride it has been!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Monday June 19, 2000 Your current energy cycle peaked two days ago. The wave of energy you experienced then has still not subsided. Today your emotions are more intense than usual. You can tell by the way people are reacting to you. You may be drawn to certain types of people you normally don't approach. You're experiencing feelings and moods very different from your normal self. What was going on with you two days ago? Are you just now feeling what was too deep or strong for you to feel back then? If you're feeling strange or confused, talk to a close friend or anybody you can totally trust. Get it off your chest! (I am here for you.....but you know that!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Monday June 19, 2000 Sagittarius, your communications with others are likely to be more emotional today than usual. You're not satisfied with superficial conversations. If you can keep your feelings under control, this can be a time for you to have some really meaningful communications. This is a good day to seek out your more intelligent friends and people who inspire you. If you're bored, pick up the phone and call a long-lost relative. (You must have a list of both a mile long...)"}, {"response": 545, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "June 19, 2000 Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Monday June 19, 2000 All work and no play make Libra a dull person. Psychologists say that one sign of a healthy person is his or her ability to play. What have you done lately for the sheer, childlike pleasure of enjoying yourself? Today is a good day for you to create a happy, entertaining experience for yourself. Go to a movie. Have a date. Eat an ice cream cone. Do anything that's fun for you. It'll do your heart good. (Alas, I heard from Lance who is on 24 hour a day tending his ailing mother, and I think the memories of ice cream and Marcia will have to suffice for the time being.)"}, {"response": 546, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (23:11)", "body": "June 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Do not be so quick to jump at other peoples ideas, as there is a distinct possibility of losses which you can keep to a minimum with a little forethought. Slow down and smell the coffee, too much work can make you either a nervous wreck, or give you a bad case of eye strain. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) A coworker is trying to help further your career at this time and, although you know who it is you are stunned that this person even knows you are alive. Don't read too much into this help though, as he/she may not have any romantic inclinations toward you. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Your Guardian Angel steps in to help you get your problems solved. This could be a lucky week for you but don't take any undue risks with your income such as gambling, the losses could become mind boggling. Marital difficulties clear themselves up by evening. CANCER (June 22-July 22) With your keen sense of perception it is possible for you to catch potential hazards and correct , or have them corrected. before disaster can strike at work, so be on your toes. Your charisma brings many new people into your life, since your animal magnetism is at a high point. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is a good day to let someone get close to you and share your burdens in love and spirituality. Meditation on your higher values are in order. Children need more of your attention than usual; it is vital that you give it to them, for you are their role model. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is a good day to meditate on your spiritual values. Children need your example and good advice, so make it as good as only you can. Be more supportive of a mate, or lover, in thought and speech. It could work wonders, and cement the bonds you share. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Do not go out on a limb today in the workplace. Be sure of your facts before you speak up, as winding up with egg on your face will not serve to bolster your prestige. Your spouse may not be as helpful and supportive as she/he has in the past. You have the ability to find out why and clear it up. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your wandering eye is casting about for a better job. Great, if you can find it. The one you have has good possibilities and advancement is closer then you think, so hang in there a while longer, if you can. Family matters take on a more serious note today. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Unmarried Sagittarians can find a new love that may become a life companion, in fact you may want to pop the question five minutes after you meet! Married ones will find new excitement and adventure with their mate. Children will be a joy today, so enjoy it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You have been having some problems that can be cleared up by a lot of faith and spiritual meditation. Lawsuits, contracts, and so forth will be thoroughly explained to you and with your penchant for outthinking the opposition you can come out on top of the situation. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) You are always kind and helpful to those who can't help themselves, but be aware of those who won't help them- selves and would rather you did it all. Dreams are so clear lately that you spend time to today analyzing one that has been bothering you. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You have a fantastic sixth sense and it will be in full force today so your powers of discernment may make you feel a little angry with a friend, just remember we are all human and you do have the gift of understanding that should make things right again."}, {"response": 547, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (17:53)", "body": "June 20, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Tuesday June 20, 2000 Gemini, don't be surprised today if you have the urge to get away from your normal routine and go someplace far away. You're in that part of your energy cycle now where you feel a mood or a restlessness you can't quite pin down. If nothing of any importance happened 4-5 days ago when your energy level was at a peak, you've probably still got energy to burn. You might just be bored. If it's possible to do something radically different today, great. If not, get out and stretch your legs, or take a long drive. (trying to make plane reservations.......) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Tuesday June 20, 2000 You began a new energy cycle on Thursday, June 15 At first, you may have felt little more than a vague urge or desire for something new in your life. It's time now to give this new energy more meaning and direction. Was anything particular going on in your life on June 15? What were you doing/feeling/thinking then? Don't let your new burst of energy dissipate and amount to nothing. Today, tell yourself what you want to happen during the next several weeks. (busy man!!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Tuesday June 20, 2000 Cancer, don't be surprised if you have some strong feelings today about sex, money, or joint possessions. You're in a space where you're sensitive about getting or protecting what you feel is rightfully yours. These may be old feelings you haven't yet resolved or feelings about events that occurred only recently. In any case, they're your feelings. If you're feeling envy, resentment, or jealousy, write the offending party a letter. Say exactly what you feel and think, then burn it and flush the ashes down the sink. (sigh)"}, {"response": 548, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (22:45)", "body": "June 21, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Someone from afar is drawn to you romantically, either through an introduction or the web. Be careful if it is the web and don't take chances until you get to know this person in the flesh. Work will pretty much blas\ufffd today and you will get a chance to get caught up. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Take the middle road of conservatism in business today in order to better protect your assets; take a more conciliatory tome with higher ups if you are in a job situation so you won't injure your chances of getting ahead. Romantic commitments are possible today. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Reconciliation's are possible today if you play your cards right. Try to watch any undue spending after nightfall, as being loose with the money may hurt the 'second time around' that you are trying for. The only council you should keep today is with yourself. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you will hear some good news concerning an investment or a loan that you have been trying to get. A long delay at work throws you behind schedule but cheer up, tomorrow will be better. Children need some strong leadership at the moment and you provide it. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today it is possible to reach agreements on any number of fronts as your charm and charisma is working overtime. Career moves will meet with success at this time and that promotion is in the bag for you. However, your travel plans may have to be changed. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Those loose ends have been tied up and you are enjoying a few days off to spend with visiting relatives, plan on having some fun and forgetting about business for awhile. Getting the boat out and spending some time on the lake or river, fishing, seems like a dandy idea. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Try not to shop for electronic equipment today as this is not a good day for you to find the better deals, best to shelve this idea until later. Domestic disputes may have you turning in circles and this would be a good time to have a heart to heart talk with the one you are on the outs with, a happy resolution could be had. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A work problem that you find increasingly hard to solve finally works itself out by the end of the day and you wonder why you did not see the answer sooner. Take time with the spouse and family later today, as a good evening of togetherness is just what the doctor ordered. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Listen to a friend today as he or she talks about an idea that will sound so worthwhile that you can hardly wait to get started. Go for it, this seems like a sound investment that, with work on your part, could turn you a pretty dollar. Set the plans in motion tonight. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Spring cleaning time is rearing it's head and you are feeling just energetic enough to pitch in and get it started, don't be shy, press everyone into the work and see how fast it goes. Evening leaves you tired but happy, so take a break at your favorite restaurant. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Morning sees things rolling along for you like clockwork with no hitches, but later in the day you find obstacles everywhere you turn, don't let them get you down as they are only temporary, and what you need most of all is patience. Take your spouse to lunch. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Even though the day will bring positive responses from your investments you will also meet with some unexpected, added expenses. Just roll with the flow and you won't sink as long as you continue to think of success and not failure. Family is with you on all this."}, {"response": 549, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (22:48)", "body": "No plane reservations till hjalf way into September off the Islands. Just like last year. We are virtual prisoners in our own state! No visiting my son till October! I am desperately unhappy!"}, {"response": 550, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (22:49)", "body": "TAROTSCOPE - June 21, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Trust your instincts today. If you have opened a door, and find you don't like the atmosphere in the room, just leave and close the door firmly behind you. You do not have to trust darkness on faith alone. If you are not comfortable where you are - look to the light and follow its beacon. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may find yourself shaking your head today to try and separate illusion from reality. Go ahead and daydream if you wish, just remember that you'll have to get a grip or take a stand soon. A broad field of choices may be narrowed down, which will improve your chances of success. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Your path is clear and smooth today, and your goals are in sight. Business, career and financial matters progress well. There is the possibility of extra earned income, and even more good financial opportunities to be built upon. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Find a bridge between duty and pleasure today, and you'll be surprised how wonderful a day you can create. Look at things from where you are, but remember what is above and below you. And be prepared for a nice surprise from the horizon."}, {"response": 551, "author": "Rana", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (23:25)", "body": "So, Marcia, tell us about your self. I noticed you are interested in train hopping. yes i know this isn't the train hoping page but this site appears large and i haven't found my way back to that subject yet. Did you find out what C.C.R. stands for"}, {"response": 552, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (23:52)", "body": "I went to his web site and was delighted with what I found and suddenly cannot remember what it was........ http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/austin/23/new Continue in there???"}, {"response": 553, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (23:55)", "body": "Oh...if you really want to know about me check: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/"}, {"response": 554, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (02:09)", "body": "June 21, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Wednesday June 21, 2000 Gemini, do you believe in a Higher Power or in anything that gives your life a sense of meaning and purpose? During this third week in your monthly energy cycle, it's good to stop and ponder what your life is all about. Do you think your life is going somewhere? Do you have a sense of direction? What are you doing? And why? You might overheat your brain trying to figure these things out for yourself. Wouldn't it be great to have someone with whom you could discuss these weighty issues? (chill out!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Wednesday June 21, 2000 Cancer, Several days ago, you began a new four-week energy cycle. You made a decision to make something happen during the month ahead. What did you decide? What changes were you willing to make? To reinforce your intention to bring some newness into your life, tell a friend what you're up to this month. Write it in your journal. Put a sign on your desk. The Force doesn't need you to light its fire, but it does need your direction. (gee, everyone has a force with them.......) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Wednesday June 21, 2000 As Benjamin Franklin said, \"Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time; for that's the stuff life is made of.\" Tomorrow is a turning point in the new energy cycle you began on June 15. Today is the time for you to take some form of action to make your wish a reality. Make up your mind! Decide to decide! Your intention is what counts. ( there you got, Terry! Do it)"}, {"response": 555, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (07:32)", "body": "Friday will be a major turning point for all of us at the Spring, the beginning of a whole new growth cycle. Stay tuned for details."}, {"response": 556, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (07:47)", "body": "I've taken a number of actions in responses that you'll read today. I'm hoping to galvanize a major segment of this community into action and foster a new growth spurt based on innovative courseware that we develop as a a team."}, {"response": 557, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "June 22, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your energies are around normal but your logical reasoning ability is enhanced. Take advantage of this day by using these attributes to get ahead on your job. Give children the benefit of the doubt today as one may not be respon- sible for the latest trouble. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Your energies are also running high today and you may have the ability to 'cloud men's minds', but be sure you keep your ethics and moral values in place as you guard against taking advantage of those who seem to be standing in line for just such a thing to happen. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) A surprise of a pleasant nature will be coming your way today and if you keep on your toes you will realize great benefit from it. Be aware of the changes that a loved one is going through, and you will be able to make a positive impact on their future. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Guard against any form of carelessness on the job today and be extra careful around machinery as there exists the possibility of a small accident that being alert can prevent. This is not a good day to volunteer for extra work because you may take on more than you can handle and all your projects would suffer because of it. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may inadvertently find yourself involved in settling disputes among people you work with today, be careful though, that you are not being partial to either side as that's not the way a peacemaker works. A new relationship that will last is likely to happen to you today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) The tables turn on those that may have been trying to do you harm, you have found a stronger sense of analytical reasoning then you have known in the past and now feel more positive in your outlook. A great time for you to look into investment opportunities, and possible home based businesses. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Avoid purchasing a new home, car, or any other major item today you may have a tendency to leap before you look and get in a snarl with the financial arrangements, paying more than you should. Now is the time to start the ball rolling on that new money making idea. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) At work you will be a star, provided you use courage. You will have a challenge to face that will require it. You and automobiles do not mix to well this week, so it is best to put off any travel plans and drive as little as possible; nothing big, but there could be a small accident. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) You may want to keep notes on the ideas you come up with today, as they will come in handy for you in the future. Detail and accuracy are your most important points to remember today as the tendency to daydream is strong. Give the family some rare attention tonight. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) A good day to get outside and commune with nature if you can have enough time away from the workplace, as this is your best source of stress relief. Meditation also, will strengthen you. Let the stress that you have built up just drain away and you will be twice as ready to take on your foes. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Friends and relatives will soon be needing you more often then usual, It will be up to you to get a grip on this, otherwise you will find yourself being used. Your love life is doing well, you should try and work on existing relationships instead of trying to create new ones PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You can relax at work as long as you are doing your job and not goofing off, goofing off today could get you severely reprimanded or even terminated. Your love life is getting better, and your relationships are growing stronger, do not risk setbacks by saying hurtful things, even by accident."}, {"response": 558, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (22:38)", "body": "June 22, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A strong woman with a lovely spirit shows serenity, courage and kindness today. You may be asked along on an adventure - it will be fun. Someone will be an anchor in the storm. Let the winds blow! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may be feeling a bit down and disillusioned today, or even battle-weary. Take some quiet time to regroup, and refresh yourself. Don't ignore the blessings under your very feet - a simple tilt of you head will show you much new beauty you may have been overlooking. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra The lion might be the King of the Jungle, but you air people will have both the physical and the spiritual presence to make a purring pussycat out of the wild feline. Hold your arms high in the air and feel the strength of the universe coursing through your veins. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You have a strong but gentle grasp on the world around you today. You are masterful and in control, but your gentleness is a balm on the world around you. It's a great day to identify what needs to be done, and then do it. Nothing will block your way."}, {"response": 559, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (00:43)", "body": "June 22, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Thursday June 22, 2000 Today you're entering the fourth and final week of the energy cycle you began back on June 2. You're running low on energy now, so don't push yourself. If you have been using your time and energy well, it's time now to relax and enjoy the fruits of your labor. If you haven't fared well during these past three weeks, it's time to say \"oops\" or \"aw shucks\" and forgive yourself. Promise yourself you'll do much better during your next energy cycle which starts on Thursday, June 29. (depends on who you ask - I have met the most incredible people lately) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Thursday June 22, 2000 Cancer, if anything significant occurred four or five days ago when your energy was at its peak level, today's a good time to figure out what to make of it. First of all, what happened or didn't happen? In either case, are you happy or unhappy about it? Why? What should you have done, or done differently, four or five days ago? If nothing significant happens during this four-week energy cycle, don't worry. There will always be another, and another. . . . (sigh again.......and I am here always.......) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Thursday June 22, 2000 Sagittarius, you're entering the second week of the energy cycle you began on Thursday, June 15. Have you created anything new and interesting in your life so far? Are you getting a sense of direction? Today is a turning point! Ask yourself, \"Just how good am I willing to have it be in my life?\" What's your answer? The results of what you've been doing during the past week are due to show up around Thursday, June 29. (just hang in there Terry....) Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Thursday June 22, 2000 Libra, you possess within yourself, at every moment of your life, under all circumstances, the power to transform the quality of your life. You're at that place in your monthly energy cycle where a shift is needed in your attitude toward yourself. Life is trying to make you happy. Are you ready and willing to give up your limitations? Today, be willing to see yourself differently. \"Don't find fault, find a remedy.\" (Henry Ford) (Lance's Mom is in the hospital and gravely ill)"}, {"response": 560, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (13:31)", "body": "Tarotscope - sun signs - June 23, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Many others may have tried on Cinderella's glass slipper - but only the true and rightful owner was able to finally claim it! Many have tried to pull the sword from the stone, but maybe your courage and your efforts will create the magic touch necessary to succeed where others have failed. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Your boat may be tossed about a bit by the forces of nature today. If you stay put, focus on your destination, and put a little muscle power into it, you can row your boat to pleasant shores. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A day to balance your finances, your opportunities and your schedule. There will be time and resources enough for everything in your capable hands. Meet a friend if you can - and go for a stroll by the water. It will be a joyous time. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A young person will delight you with their charm and creativity. Perhaps it's time to let your own creative spirit soar a little - fresh viewpoints may emerge that will give you a new take on a situation. Listen to some music, or paint a picture, or plant a flower - enjoy creativity in all its aspects."}, {"response": 561, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (14:02)", "body": "(new boyfriend just asked for my poems - does that count????)"}, {"response": 562, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (14:23)", "body": "*ahem* \"new boyfriend\" ???? Talk to me, oh thou who implored me to behave..."}, {"response": 563, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (14:37)", "body": "Hannah's of course!!!! sorry forgot to say *grin*"}, {"response": 564, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (15:10)", "body": ".....*sigh* Oh well.. (putting my mind back where it belongs.....sigh!)"}, {"response": 565, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 23, 2000 (00:08)", "body": "June 23, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Friday June 23, 2000 Gemini, you're in the final week of your monthly energy cycle. It's a good time to ask your Self: \"Do I have a game plan for my life? Do I keep on making the same old mistakes?\" Albert Einstein said, \"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.\" If you've been spinning your wheels for the past three weeks and \"getting nowhere fast,\" maybe your life needs a purpose. \"What is the use of living if it be not to make this world a better place for those who live in it after we are gone?\" (Winston Churchill) ( I am trying...!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Friday June 23, 2000 Cancer, don't be surprised today if you have the urge to get away from your normal routine and go someplace far away. You're in that part of your energy cycle now where you feel a mood or a restlessness you can't quite pin down. If nothing of any importance happened four or five days ago when your energy level was at a peak, you've probably still got energy to burn. You might be bored. If it's possible to do something radically different today, great. If not, get out and stretch your legs, or take a long drive. (Honey, join me for a good hike!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Friday June 23, 2000 Sagittarius, no matter how wise and mature you become, you still have feelings and needs. Periodically, you feel the need to be with people who love and accept you for who you are, not for what they get from you. These nutritious people might actually be family members or may feel like family. Today is a good day to connect with a caring soul. Who in your life makes you feel good for being you? If you feel like it, get in touch with that person today and say \"Thanks for being in my life.\" (You're on your own for this one)"}, {"response": 566, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 23, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "Junbe 23, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A social connection will introduce you to a valuable business person who will help to further your career. Family plans for the coming weekend may go awry but things will smooth out so everyone will enjoy the outing. Keep your cool with a friend today. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) The advisability of pursuing a certain business plan will give you extra incentive today but take it slow and by the numbers. Things will work out nicely with a spouse or other if you give them half a chance to explain things to you. A laid back even- ing puts you at ease. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Indecisiveness is your bane and today will be another where you find it hard to make a choice and stick to it, remember, you cannot have your cake and eat it too. An invitation to go out on the river this weekend may not be your best choice, stay home and take it easy. CANCER (June 22-July 22) After a busy week, just when you think things are winding down you are tapped for overtime, it is a good idea to accept in a cheerful manner as this could lead to your eventual promotion. This is a good time to start planning your home repairs and facelift after the winter storms. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) An inspiration brought on by someone or something at work gives you some great home redecorating ideas. Go for it but be sure you don't break the bank in the process. You are socially well connected which will bring you some aid in the financial department. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) At work this morning you are met with some good news about your career plans and you are overjoyed. Friends and family are sufficiently impressed about this to give you a congrat- ulations party. The initial travel required will be lots more fun if you take a loved one along. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Home decorating or redecorating will be your main focus for today and that makes this a good day to go out and shop for the things you will need. Furniture bargains and even col- lectibles are easy to find when you are really looking for them. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your charm will play a big part today in having doors opened for you both in the business world and in your personal life. Be sure that you act ethically and with honor in all you attempt today in order for your plans to have the most suc- cess. Lies will be found out. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Don't be afraid to speak out as you have strong opinions on certain matters, and there are certain things that need to be said in order to let the opposition know exactly where you stand on the issues. Family and friends are in your corner and root you on. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) No confrontations for you today as your laid back mood just won't support it. Best to nod and smile and keep walking, you'll get a better chance at a later date. Travel plans for the weekend may be canceled due to some disruption in the family; nothing so serious that you can't handle it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) An unexpected favor from an unexpected source gives you a boost at your job as you are given a raise on the strength of this persons recommendation. Don't expect too much togetherness from the family tonight as everyone has their own agenda and their own direction to go. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Going gung ho at work today gets you there first with the most and you are the one who gathers the laurels and the recognition which leads to higher pay. A good friend lends you inspiration in some creative endeavors, and a spouse lets you in on the happy secret."}, {"response": 567, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (03:29)", "body": "(this is so funny - me - This is a good time to start planning your home repairs and facelift after the winter storms. him - Go for it [redecorating] but be sure you don't break the bank in the process. You are socially well connected which will bring you some aid in the financial department. He's just this week pulled in a social connection to help get the house repairs done - a builder friend who will supply the workmen and materials at cost!!!! At long last, just as we are leaving, the house will be decent!!! Grrrrr!)"}, {"response": 568, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (18:23)", "body": "June 24, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Good judgment will help you through some shaky time in your business world today. Fortunately you have plenty of that and you handle all problems as they confront you. A family situation will take up a good part of your evening but com- promise saves the day. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is not a good day to take time off from your business to spend in personal pursuits. This is a crucial period in the life of your business and you should be right there on top of everything. It only takes a minute for a molehill to become a mountain. You are the only one who will recognize these molehills in time. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Traffic is rough today so be careful every minute you are on the road. Drive defensively. Try to handle problems as they arise and things will go more smoothly for you. The promotion you have been working for could come through for you today and that puts everyone in a great mood. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Tempers may be very close to the surface and it would be wise to treat everyone with an extra dose of courtesy and kindness so as to short circuit any budding feuds. Search for hidden clauses in all contracts today as there is a possibility of an 'I gotcha\" in one. Keep alert and the truth will not elude you in these matters. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone close to you will confide her/his love and dreams to you today and you are amazed. You have wanted to open up to this person but you were sure she/he cared more for someone else, but now you are on cloud nine and the two of you start on your wedding plans. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Financial worries beset you now and you spend most of your day worrying until you realize that work, not worry will get you over the hump. Pay close attention to details and put those new plans into operation. Soon you will have those financial problems all taken care of. Offer employees fresh incentives to be more productive. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you should receive that all important call and you jump at it. You may be in a dead end job with no chance of advancement and have had your feelers out for a new position with an up and coming new company. This promises to be the way to go. A loved one is with you one hundred percent on your change. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Hell hath no fury--- it would be a good thing to watch your back, figuratively speaking, of course, for awhile. At least until a certain person calms down. There could be some disquieting episodes at work but you handle them with your usual tact and diplomacy. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your ship finally comes in but be careful as it is not yet firmly tied to the dock. No one knows your business better than you do. Shore up your business as best you can by paying close attention to the weakest areas. Assign key people to handle the parts that are running smoothly and you handle the rest. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Someone out there thinks of you as easy prey and will make their move accordingly. You are not as gullible as thought and you are able to recognize the con when it is put forth and send them packing. Be cautious on the job today as there may be a few minor mishaps. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Friends and loved ones lean more and more on you for spiritual guidance as they sense your psychic energy. Your love life should be noticeably picking up. Mar- ried people will feel more drawn towards a loved one. You will do well at work, and will have a lot of positive new ideas. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your energies are around normal levels, but your reasoning ability will be enhanced. Take advantage of this time by addressing the most unpleasant areas of your life that require this type of logical approach. Pay close attention to the hidden messages in the songs of children, many gems have been mined like this."}, {"response": 569, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (18:44)", "body": "Gemini (May 22-June 21) Saturday June 24, 2000 Gemini, you're at the point in your 4-week energy cycle where it would be good for you to go through a debriefing. It's important for you to make emotional contact with people who are your true friends. Your hopes, dreams and wishes can come and go, but friends are forever. It would make you feel good to contact a close friend today. You don't need to have something important to say. It's the contact that counts. ( and I have some who will be in my heart forever) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Saturday June 24, 2000 Today you're entering the fourth and final week of the energy cycle you began back on June 4. You're running low on energy now, so don't push yourself. If you have been using your time and energy well, it's time now to relax and enjoy the fruits of your labor. If you haven't fared well during these past three weeks, it's time to say \"oops\" or \"aw shucks\" and forgive yourself. Promise yourself you'll do much better during your next energy cycle, which starts a week from today on Saturday, July 1. (Oh Dear - down time for your birthday??!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Saturday June 24, 2000 All work and no play makes Sagittarius a dull person. Psychologists say that one sign of a healthy person is his or her ability to play. What have you done lately for the sheer, childlike pleasure of enjoying yourself? Today is a good day for you to create a happy, entertaining experience for yourself. Go to a movie. Have a date. Eat an ice cream cone. Do anything that's fun for you. It'll do your heart good. (Fooling around in the pool??!!)"}, {"response": 570, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 25, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "June 25, 2000 Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sunday June 25, 2000 I'm a Sagittarian and I'm proud of it! SAGITTARIUS is my high-minded, philosophical and intelligent side. I enjoy learning about the world-at-large. I'm searching for meaning and purpose in my life. I need something to get religious about. My life is a never-ending Vision Quest. I have a strong moral sense. I'm eager to publicize my knowledge and learning. I tend to exaggerate. I can be long-winded, extravagant, and overly generous. Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Sunday June 25, 2000 I'm a Libra and I'm proud of it! LIBRA is my nice, co-operative, peace-loving, diplomatic type. I want to share my life with a partner who treats me like an equal. I value being in a relationship. I have good people skills. I dislike making decisions by myself. I can look at life from perspectives other than my own. If I can, I always avoid an argument. I want everyone to receive fair, equal and civil treatment. I have a vain and envious streak. Cancer (June 22-July 22) Sunday June 25, 2000 I'm a Cancer and I'm proud of it! CANCER is my soft, sentimental, feeling side. I'm a good caretaker. I love to give and receive nurturance. I need to feel safe and secure. I enjoy depending on others and having them depend on me. I like to feel needed. I need the feeling of belonging. I'm sympathetic, vulnerable, and sensitive. I take things personally. I'm family-oriented. I like to be warm and personal. I tend to smother the people I love. (Smother me!!! Please! I shall nurture you!) Gemini (May 22-June 21) Sunday June 25, 2000 I'm a Gemini, and I'm proud of it! GEMINI is my funny, humorous, friendly, light-hearted, Peter Pan side. I'm a natural born communicator. I've got good social skills. I'm bright, witty, knowledgeable, and perceptive. I have an insatiable curiosity. I need lots of stimulation. I trip lightly through life. I'm adaptable, flexible and versatile. I'm a fast learner. I'm a jack-of-all-trades. I love gossip and hate making decisions. I get scattered easily. (*grin* - that's me all over)"}, {"response": 571, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 25, 2000 (22:18)", "body": "June 26, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today is a day to enjoy just BEING. Open yourself to the wonders of nature, the universe, and of YOU! You can choose a new path, and the beauty of it is, there is no need to struggle or push today. The future is unfolding with promise and delight, so just take it all in. And, take some time to play today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Self-esteem issues may surface today. Remember that self-respect is even more important than the respect of others, so start there. Others may not be seeing you clearly right now, so put little weight on external opinions. If they are wrong, it will soon come to light. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You will likely be in an introverted, 'I want to be alone' type of mood today, or alternatively, for those who work or spend a lot of time alone, you'll be chafing at your isolation. Regardless of your mood, make sure you don't reject, out of hand, good advice or leadership from others. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A father, or a respected person or advisor could figure prominently today - and you'll be glad of the advice or guidance you receive. It is a great day for dealings with the government, bosses, and bureaucrats. If you need to make some decisions today, do so with a level head and firm hand."}, {"response": 572, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jun 25, 2000 (23:58)", "body": "Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Monday June 26, 2000 Are you happy, Sagittarius? Abraham Lincoln said, \"You're about as happy as you make up your mind to be.\" You're at that point in your monthly energy cycle where Life is asking you how happy you're willing to be. Today, it's time to make up your mind to let happiness happen in your life. No matter how old you are, there's a little kid in you who wants to enjoy life. Just say yes!"}, {"response": 573, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (00:10)", "body": "June 26, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Monday June 26, 2000 Gemini, during this winding down period in your energy cycle, it's good to have a supportive group or at least a friend to reassure you that you're not alone. No one can live in a vacuum. Engaging in friendly group efforts or projects now may be just what the doctor ordered to get you in touch with others like yourself. Take a friend to lunch. Better yet, get a group of friends together after work, let your hair down and enjoy yourself. Cancer (June 22-July 22) Monday June 26, 2000 Cancer, you're in the final week of your monthly energy cycle. It's a good time to ask your Self: \"Do I have a game plan for my life? Do I keep on making the same old mistakes? Albert Einstein said, \"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.\" If you've been spinning your wheels for the past three weeks and \"getting nowhere fast,\" maybe your life needs a purpose. \"What is the use of living if it be not to make this world a better place for those who live in it after we are gone?\" (Winston Churchill)"}, {"response": 574, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (13:11)", "body": "June 26, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21-April 20) Times and employers have changed over the years and it has been a few since you had to look for a job, but a friend puts you on to a prospect and you apply and find just what you wanted, and the salary is right, along with the hours and working conditions. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A new person at work gives the impression of a know it all and mean tempered, take time to get to know this person and you may find that he or she is only suffering from first day nerves, and since everyone is different, this is the way it is shown. You help and see the change in attitude. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You will be getting some good advice from someone you have trusted with your secrets in the past, and this would be a good time to listen to this person as he only has your best interest at heart and could keep you from getting into some very bad trouble, which you can't easily get out of. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Although you hate a liar and will fall out with someone for life because of it, you are not above telling a few yourself, and this one will get you into more trouble than you can imagine if you don't stop what you are doing and confess immediately, before someone tells the secret first. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) True love matters and you make it work for your marriage. A new position at work brings you more prestige with coworkers. An Aries may be walking on the fighting side of you today but you stand your ground and everything works out just the way you wanted it too. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Love with Leo could be a fiery affair, and worth the trouble if you want to pursue it, one thing for sure, it will never be a dull life. A Scorpio boss may be on the warpath today so if you have outside work to do this would be the day for it. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Libra is living a lucky life today as everything he or she attempts come through with flying colors and turns to gold in the bank. Get those new ideas up and going today, before someone else beats you to them. Luck won't last forever so strike while you have the advantage. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Being a scorpion and a tad too pushy will get you absolutely nowhere in the love department as your loved one has more fight than you expected and won't put up with a lot of foolish- ness, so, of course, you sweeten up. Watch that Scorpio sting, it can bring you a lot of woes. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) At home you will find your loved one warming up as you and the spouse reaffirm your love for one another and discover a whole new closeness. A good day for getting promoted on the job as today you can do no wrong and you feel yourself clicking like clockwork. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A wonderful invitation to go out on the town comes from the person you have been wanting to go out with. Try not to go alone into any unsavory neighborhoods today as there may be danger lurking nearby. Whatever your business there, take a companion with you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) The boss is not having a good day so this would not be a good time to be late for work or draw attention to yourself in any other way. The local morning news will hold a surprise for you if not a downright shock. All quiet on the home front until evening when you will have to deal with the morning shock. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Weather permitting, this would be a good morning to start your day off with a brisk walk or jog around the block before you get into your daily activities. Your coworkers are glad you are around to spread your cheer and goodwill. Work should be a breeze for you today as you get right into the swing of things."}, {"response": 575, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (21:18)", "body": "June 26, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Aries the ram may be climbing mountains that are a little too steep in places, but you will see the light today and head for the nearest plateau. A promotion at work is just what the doctor ordered to get you back on track. Plan a quiet evening at home and let your nerves settle down. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) An e-mail message may have you standing on your head in anticipation of finally meeting this dream that you have been conversing with for months. Be sure that when you do meet it is in a well populated place and not alone, until you are well acquainted with him/her. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Mountain climbing may not be this sea goats favorite past time so it is best not to go around making mountains out of molehills and asking for trouble and/or disappointment in your affairs. A coworker may exhibit some jealousy today as you collect kudos at work. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Don't let wild imaginations run away with you today as you try to project what someone is likely to do or not do. Actions taken could be for several different reasons and you may not even be close to figuring this person out. Let your nerves relax and unwind as you wait for a more positive action or word. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) An overbearing person at work may have you so incensed today that you feel like just walking out on the job. Don't ever do that as your reputation follows you to the next one, be- sides, it is always easier to find another place of employ- ment when you are already employed. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Even though you are no longer a child you still feel like saying, \"Mother, please, I'd rather do it myself\" when a doting parent tries to help you out of a spot you are in. Being an adult, and sure of your own inner strength, you should use your strength to accept gracefully and not injure loving feelings. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A spouse may be pulling all the work load he or she can at the moment and you step forward to ease the burden to the best of your ability, and that is a considerable amount as you have abilities that have not even been tested yet, but your 'I can do it' attitude sees you through. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) While love is beautiful and grand it is still not the end all and the be all of your life, so if this person drives you to the brink of sanity or otherwise causes you much unrest you might want to meditate along the lines of: is it love, or is it codependency. You will see the difference. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Family affairs take up most of your time and thought today as a young one may be ill and you will be involved in his or her recuperation process. Don't hesitate today to make room for an in-law who will stay with you for the duration of the illness and contribute professional care and advice. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Put off making any firm decisions today as the chances are good that you will not be able to make them stick, and if you have to back down, or change your position on certain matters, it could cause you a loss of prestige in the work place. Plan a quiet get together with friends tonight. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Someone you have put off confronting lately finally steps forward and forces the issue, if you stand your ground and hold fast to your convictions you may be able to make this person see reason and logic in what you have accomplished without him or her. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Visitors from afar descend on you today and catch you un- prepared, but you are the kind of person who excels when faced with a challenge and soon have everyone settled and happy. Children may not want to give up their room, even for a short term visit, but you find bribery works wonders."}, {"response": 576, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (21:20)", "body": "June 26, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Oops - that beacon of light you thought you saw on the horizon has disappeared in the mist. Not a problem - maybe it's better to have the chance to choose your own route and not follow someone's else beckoning. Listen to your teachers, and then do what YOU think is right. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If you are faced with a confrontation you have two choices. If it is clear that the battle is a losing one, then cut your losses and try again another day. However, if the issues are clear and worthwhile, may your stand and never mind what others think. A clean fight may clear the air. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Joy and attainment mark this day as your goals come to fruition. A ray of sunshine lights up your life, and you are blessed in friends, family, optimism and satisfaction. Get outside if you can and dance in the sunshine. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be feeling a bit like the butterfly who is afraid to leave the cocoon today. What are you afraid of? If you have to deal with some unwelcome changes or disappointing legal decisions, take the bull by the horns and do what needs to be done to give your spirit free rein to start anew."}, {"response": 577, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (22:54)", "body": "CANCER: The sign of Cancer is ruled by the Moon. Physically it is related to the breasts and stomach. It is said to have a feminine nature, and is therefore more reactive in its energy. It is a Water sign, and as such is connected to the world of emotion and the instincts. It is also a Cardinal sign, which means that planets placed here will express themselves in a very dynamic fashion - especially in matters connected with care and protection. This sign is associated with motherhood and the family. There is a great sensitivity on an inner level, but rather a secretive nature. Loyalty and attachment, sentimentality and hanging on to the past, are all characteristics associated with Cancer. Planets in this sign will often reflect a vulnerable character and oversensitive nature. There is also a possessive streak, and a tendency to be emotionally smothering. Nevertheless Cancer confers a strong intuitive nature and deeply-held feelings. There is a strong attachment to the home and awareness of the environment. Planets in Cancer come to expression most clearly in connection with the home and family."}, {"response": 578, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (23:49)", "body": "June 27, 2000 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Tuesday June 27, 2000 Cancer, you're at the point in your four-week energy cycle where it would be good for you to go through a debriefing. It's important for you to make emotional contact with people who are your true friends. Your hopes, dreams and wishes can come and go, but friends are forever. It would make you feel good to contact a close friend today. You don't need to have something important to say. It's the contact that counts. (so many straight lines and so public this topic....) Gemini (May 22-June 21) Tuesday June 27, 2000 Gemini, if you're spinning your wheels and can't get your focus, or if you're feeling like you're in limbo, don't panic. There's nothing wrong. Tomorrow is the last day of your current 4-week energy cycle. It's normal for you to feel like withdrawing. This is a good time to sit back and evaluate how well you're handling the art of living. Are you okay with the way you've spent these last 4 weeks of your life? Do you have the sense that you're living your ( it was a very slow day - my gentlemen were busy or whatever..sigh!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Tuesday June 27, 2000 Sagittarius, you possess within yourself, at every moment of your life, under all circumstances, the power to transform the quality of your life. You're at that place in your monthly energy cycle where a shift is needed in your attitude toward yourself. Life is trying to make you happy. Are you ready and willing to give up your limitations? Today, be willing to see yourself differently. \"Don't find fault. Find a remedy.\" (Henry Ford) (Go Terry!) life or that life is living you? In two days, you'll be starting a new energy cycle. It's time to warm up your dream machine. If you don't have a dream, how can you have a dream come true?"}, {"response": 579, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 26, 2000 (23:55)", "body": "For Lance whose mother is undergoing open heart surgery, Hugs and love! Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Tuesday June 27, 2000 Your current energy cycle peaked two days ago. The wave of energy you experienced then has still not subsided. Today your emotions are more intense than usual. You can tell by the way people are reacting to you. You may be drawn to certain types of people you normally don't approach. You're experiencing feelings and moods very different from your normal self. What was going on with you two days ago? Are you feeling now what was too deep or strong for you to feel back then? If you're feeling strange or confused, talk to a close friend or anybody you can totally trust. Get it off your chest!"}, {"response": 580, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Jun 27, 2000 (12:48)", "body": "I keep hearing about these new energy cycles, they keep coming in waves."}, {"response": 581, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 27, 2000 (14:17)", "body": "Yup....and mine are all mental. I seem to lack the energy to do stuff like weeding and scrubbing floors willingly."}, {"response": 582, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 28, 2000 (00:58)", "body": "June 28, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Take A relaxing walk out doors and you will find that is what is needed to lift up your spirits and relieve any stress that you may feel. You will also find that it will have a positive impact on your mood; an evening with friends completes your rejuvenation. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Try to pay off old debts before you gather up a new one. This will able you to prevent stress and worries that may occur in the future when you could be overloaded with debt and under- loaded with cash. A domestic dispute is ended today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Call a friend that you have not talked to for a while. You will find that the conversation will be refreshing and very enjoyable. You could set up a luncheon or dinner date and get reacquainted. Children will need your firm support today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today is a good day to quit that bad habit that you have been wanting to stop. You will find out that it is not as hard as you had thought it to be. You have the total will and control today that it will take to replace it with something healthy. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A quiet night at home is just what the doctor ordered. It is the perfect plan for you tonight. The relaxation will be welcomed by your body and mind. recharging your batteries is important today for a number of reasons. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Be cautious if you decide to travel today. Pay attention to what you are doing while you are on the road. Pre- vention will be your main concern today as you find your mind not concentrating on what you are doing, in all of your daily tasks, not just driving. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A temptation is likely to occur today. Keep in mind that a few minutes of pleasure or fun could badly affect you in the future. Better to give up a little pleasure than to suffer the consequences. You married for better or worse, don't make it worse by your actions. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A child will look to you for advice for a solution to a problem that he or she is having. Keep an open ear and answer honestly to the best of your ability. He or she will always be thankful that he has a person like you to talk to and he will hold this dear to his heart. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Concentrate on finishing undone projects that have been postponed. The sense of accomplishment can prove to be very rewarding. The results will turn out better than expected. Nose to the grindstone is the only accepted position for you today if you expect to get that raise. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Stubbornness could be a problem for you today. It will irritate your mate or loved one. Consideration is the best policy. This can reverse the problem and the relationship will start to bloom. Your take charge attitude comes in handy at work today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) An out of town call brings good news today. Plans for the day should involve a lot of physical activity as you seem to have an over abundant amount of energy. Try a long walk, you will find it very enjoyable and refreshing. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A new love may not be for you as this person has a long track record of short affairs and you are looking for someone to go through life with, better keep shopping around. Friends ask you out tonight and perhaps intro- duce you to someone that puts the other person right in the shade."}, {"response": 583, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 28, 2000 (00:59)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may be better off spending some time alone today, rather than trying to get others to see eye to eye with you and cheer you on. Total understanding and agreement is not absolutely necessary in a relationship - look for areas where there is harmony, and let the rest be. June 28, 2000 FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may find yourself surrounded with external negativity this week. It is a good time to shore up your defences, both external and internal, but also to examine your inner strength. The petty problems and negativities of others should not alter your own course. Stand firm. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Someone or something from your past could turn up today and light up your future. It is possible this person or situation will present an opportunity to clear up old misunderstandings or hurt feelings, so be ready to take advantage of this chance to release buried negativities. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Feeling victimized or unfairly attacked may dent your emotions today, but there is no need to dwell on bygones. Take a few minutes to reflect on the situation, then pick up the pieces and you will find a new and clear playing field."}, {"response": 584, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 29, 2000 (00:17)", "body": "June 29, 2000 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Thursday June 29, 2000 Cancer, if you're spinning your wheels and can't get your focus, or if you're feeling like you're in limbo, don't panic. There's nothing wrong. Tomorrow is the last day of your current four-week energy cycle. It's normal for you to feel like withdrawing. This is a good time to sit back and evaluate how well you're handling the art of living. Are you OK with the way you've spent these last four weeks of your life? Do you have the sense that you're living your life or that life is living you? In two days, you'll be starting a new energy cycle. It's time to warm up your dream machine. If you don't have a dream, how can you have a dream come true? Gemini (May 22-June 21) Thursday June 29, 2000 Gemini, you're beginning a new 4-week energy cycle today. You're \"in the zone.\" The Force is with you and waiting for your command. What do you want? What is your intent and purpose for the month ahead? Right NOW, tell your Self, \"I want ______.\" Be specific. In your mind's eye, see it happening. In your tummy, feel that it's a done deal. Smile! Your wish is the Force's command. Expect to start seeing results around July 12-13. (Oh no....not more men wanting me to have their children?!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Thursday June 29, 2000 Sagittarius, today you're entering the third week of the energy cycle you began back on Thursday, June 15. You're now at the halfway point. It's time to see the consequences of what you've been up to for the past two weeks. Check your calendar to see where you were, who you were with, and what you were doing back around June 2. During the next few days, it would be good to follow up on, or put to rest, what you were doing back then."}, {"response": 585, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 29, 2000 (04:05)", "body": "Today's the meeting about Austen University, it's at 10 am and I still need a mock up page showing courses we could hold. I also am very busy on the Cedar Creek property. Someone has offered to buy firth.com. Should we sell firth.com, hold another pledge drive or work together to build Austin University. I overwhelmingly favor the third of these alternatives for Sprign fundraising, but we're going to have to harmonize and work with each other."}, {"response": 586, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 29, 2000 (11:59)", "body": "July Overview Astrological overview for the month: The big news is a series of \"bookend\" eclipse occurring at the first and the last of the month. Then, right smack in the middle, there's another one. And the beginning of the month is a Cancer time, too, and this sign is intimately associated with the Moon. But beside the lunar and solar cycles, there's also Jupiter, sitting still at the very entrance to Gemini, and I'm sure this is causing a degree of consternation there, like having a friend stuck half in and half out the front door. Mercury goes direct in Cancer around the same time of the middle eclipse, and Cancer is stuck with Mr. Mars for the duration of the month, too. Venus moves from Cancer right on through Leo, and that's going to bring a little bit of welcome relief of sorts, to certain fire signs. \"But what's that all mean?\" Read on. Questions about your own chart? Questions about what is coming up, just for you? The FGS Chart Shop is open 24/7. http://www.astrofish.net Aries : This month reminds me of a single event in my life, sort of a compressed time event. The influences in your life will leave you feeling like I did, one fateful morning while standing in line to get my hard earned American Dollars converted to English Pounds. Between the eclipses, the retrogrades, and the position of Jupiter, you've got a lot of influences pushing on you. What does it feel like? It's like standing in that line, after an overnight coach flight -- sitting next to someone who insisted on reading a book the whole time instead of sleeping -- although, sleeping on an overnight flight to England is a little difficult at best. So compound this image with lots of Jet Lag. Then imagine yourself in in a foreign land where the native tongue is supposed to be one that you understand. Then imagine yourself standing behind a guy speaking flawless French, holding onto his French girlfriend, and the pair of them are wearing Cowboy Boots. Manly Footwear. Pointy toes, riding heels, the real thing. Probably manufactured in West Texas. There's just something which doesn't quite add up. It left me with a little bit of a shock, almost too much, and it left me at a point where I couldn't say anything. This is a month where you're going to find yourself, more than once, staring at some vision, a scene, some event, where you just can't quite form words to explain the incongruities. Don't try. Remember, it's just passing moment of confusion, and it will all make sense (maybe not) later. Just pull out your money and hand it over to the counter agent. Sometimes, like this month, it's better not to ask questions. And as long as your handing out money, remember your astrology buddy. You know the number. Taurus : At this point in my life, I have written so much about Mercury Retrograde, and I have been haunted so much by what I've written that I loathe having to ever type those words again. Or utter them in a sentence. Of course, Mercury Retrograde is a natural cycle of beginnings, middles, and endings. There is no surprise there. And this month really doesn't hold too many surprises for Taurus. There's a long month punctuated by a series of reviews while you go back and visit past places and events. This might be literal, like a trip back to the country (or county in some cases) where you were raised, or it might be on that big screen video system in your Taurus brain (with surround sound). Part of this is Mercury, part of this the eclipses, and part of this is the end of the Saturn season. Now, there is a degree of long sought after reward coming up -- better yet, there's a good chance that this reward gets here before the end of the month. This is an opportunity to see a culmination of the review sessions you've experienced all month long. Wait until Mercury gets out of the way, though, before you announce that you've got the whole picture in focus. And don't spend that big check until it clears the bank. Gemini : Remember when I was admonishing Gemini to \"chop wood and carry water\"? It's an old Zen expression, and it suggests that you roll up your sleeves and do a little bit of dirty work, that manual labor stuff. I was stuck on a road crew once with a Gemini, and that particular character made the work go a lot easier because of the non=ADstop entertainment Gemini factor. I did notice, however, that I seemed to be using the shovel a little more than the Gemini. This month, the only planet really in your sign is Jupiter. The Mercury thing is at the first of the month, and then there's a Venus thing a little later. This adds up to some hard work around the house. And I'm back to the idea that you could be doing something good like gardening. Or pick your choice of home improvement ideas. Even though the retrograde and assorted astrological events are over before the end of the month, and even though the final third of the month is \"supposed\" to be good, there's still a catch. Throttle back on the Gemini ability to talk about how good"}, {"response": 587, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 29, 2000 (13:02)", "body": "June 29, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you feel the need to experience closeness with a family member. Don't shy away from this feeling. Spend some quality time with this person and you will feel the relationship be- come stronger. This person will soon open up to you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Work will be a breeze for you today. Things seem extra pleasant and you seem to be on top of the world. Share some of your feel- ings with someone around you that is not feeling real chipper; you will be extremely surprised on how your upbeat mood helped to cheer them up. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The twins are tugging on one another today. You find it a bit hard to make a decision. Let some time pass and you will find that the right thing to do is opened before your very eyes and your doubt will melt away like a snowball in the middle of June. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today is a good day to take the family and do something special with them. A movie, a dinner out, or just sitting around talk- ing will bring much needed closeness, comfort and joy. The family will seem to blossom with practicing this once in awhile. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You will hear great news from out of town today. It will be music to your ears. Your spirit is lifted and you feel like you are on top of the world. A night out with your mate brings back the passion in your life, things are looking up for you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Someone will ask a favor of you today and you will feel like it was a little too much to ask, however it will be very important for you to help this person out. If you remember the saying do onto others as you would have them do on to you you will find great peace in your spirit and you will see that it was worth helping this person. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) The scales seem to be very much in balance for you today. Work will go extremely smooth and the evening is very pleasant also. Peace and harmony go hand in hand today. You will find it very easy to plan that vacation that you have been wanting to take. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Bad news seems to have you in a gloomy mood today. The person that you consider most dear will feel your pain and will show you that you are loved very much. It seems to help bring you up to par to have this special person in your life. Hang in there you will get through this just fine. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A child in your life needs to spend some time with you today. The child may feel somewhat depressed. But you have just the right words to help him get over this. Set aside some extra time with him and you will see his mood change for the better almost instantly. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You run into an old friend today when you lest expect it. This may trigger a temptation or two but you will be strong enough to resist. A pleasant hello or a small chat is all that is needed. This person may try to get you to do something that you really don't want to do. Be strong and resist. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A recent purchase has you wondering if you may have made a mistake in buying it. Give it a second chance and you will find that it was not such a bad mistake at all. You are a bit more sensitive today than you usually are; hang in there and you will see that every thing will be just fine. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Out of town visitors keep you very busy today. You will enjoy the job of entertaining your guests but the day leaves you exhausted and you find bed time a welcome event. Your guest are very much enjoying their visit for it is one that they will remember for a long time."}, {"response": 588, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (13:24)", "body": "June 30, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A loved one will be asked to do something that he or she really does not want to do. With your love and support he or she will find the task goes a lot easier. Your consideration in helping him or her through this leaves you feeling good inside, your love knows no bounds. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) The atmosphere at work will be very tense today, but try not to let it interfere with your work as it clears up by quit- ting time. A night of relaxation is just what you need to settle down. A warm bath and little quiet time will get you back on track. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You will find an expensive item that you lost awhile back. You will be on the top of the world for the rest of the day now that you found it. You will realize that more organization will help you keep up with your possessions a lot easier. Spend some free time getting organized. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you will get some advice about a pressing matter that you may be indecisive about. Don't jump on your first im- pulse. Give careful thought and consideration before you make any final decisions. With a little time your head will be clearer and you will be able to make a wise decision. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A family member seems very lonely today and you will be able to sense this strongly. You can come to their rescue by just sharing some time with them. The pleasure that you will find in giving your time to them will fill you up with joy. Your loved one will be very grateful to you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today that long awaited deal that you have been waiting to finalize will be complete. However there is a friend that feels neglected by you because you have let this deal con- sume your time. Now that things are settled you will feel like spending time with your friend. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you will start planning your much needed vacation. You will feel excited about getting away for awhile. Your \"all work and no play\" life is starting to catch up with you and you find that your outlook on life has improved just by thinking about it. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Out of town relatives call today just to say hello. You will enjoy the talk and make plans for a get together soon. This cheers you up and gives you a pleasure to look forward to; The day will be a joy to face and you will find pleasure in every thing that you do. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You will have a hard time keeping your chin up today. You will feel over sensitive and someone may say something that upsets you but this is not their intention. Under- standing that you are very sensitive will help to ease the pain brought on by this person. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You are failing to consider your loved ones feelings today. Lighten up some and add some consideration then you can bring the joy back to your family. Focus on some activity that is fun and can involve everyone. The day will turn out better for all involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today you will finally come to an understanding involving your specific tasks at work. You experience great pleasure in get- ting the job done. Rewarding yourself by doing something that you enjoy will bring a joyful end to a busy day. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This is one day that you will get frustrated with. If you ever agreed with Murphy's Law you will find that it seems to be hap- pening today. If you drop your toast this morning, know that it will probably fall buttered side down. You will be happy once this day eases away; night time will be better."}, {"response": 589, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "June 30, 2000 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Friday June 30, 2000 Cancer, today is the last day in the four-week energy cycle you began back on June 4. Your fuel tank is almost empty. You're running on fumes. Be nice to yourself today. Don't push yourself. Avoid people and situations that drain your energy. If possible, leave work early today. Spend the rest of the day doing what nurtures and relaxes you. Fear not! You start a new energy cycle tomorrow. Once again, the Force will be with you. (Curl up with me and let the rest of the world disappear...) Gemini (May 22-June 21) Friday June 30, 2000 Gemini, you began a new 4-week energy cycle yesterday. The Force is ready and waiting to fulfill your Heart's Desire. NOW is the moment of power. Once again, tell your Self, \"I want ______.\" Ask your Self, \"How good am I willing to have it be?\" And remember, \"It is our attitude at the beginning that more than anything else produces a successful outcome.\" (Earl Nightingale) (Oh My.....My heart's Desire.....if only......) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Friday June 30, 2000 'There is a tide in the affairs of men which, taken at its flood, leads on to fortune.' (Shakespeare) Today is a good time to seek the support or resources you need for whatever you've been working on during the past two weeks. If your intention to make something happen was strong, you'll be seeing some results now. During the next two weeks, follow through on what you started. Join forces with the people who share your interest and enthusiasm for doing something new."}, {"response": 590, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (15:11)", "body": "June 30, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Any recent attacks - real or imagined - on your emotions will be cleared up today, even if they were self-inflicted. Past hurts will heal and are ready to be released. Looking on the 'bright side' will bring incredible illumination into your spirit. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may have to accept today that this is just a slow week and no amount of pushing and striving is going to change matters. Others may be trying to 'rain on your parade' and your just rewards are being held in limbo. Instead of panicking, look for life lessons to be learned. Your rewards are on their way - it will just be a teensy bit longer than you wanted to wait. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Onward and upward, troops! You'll be the focus of attention as you step into action, and your loyal followers (or groupies) fall into step behind you. It's a great day to take up a new cause or project - so start marching! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Swift and dramatic life changes are likely today. Energies may be shifting at lightning speed, so batten down the hatches and get the lifejacket ready! (Of course, the more adventurous among you will be standing outside enjoying the swirling storm.) Unsound structures may come tumbling down today."}, {"response": 591, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Be careful that you explain things today in a clear and lucid manner as people will tend to see something different in your views if you do not present it as you perceive it to be. Never brag about the things you have acquired even if you are justly proud of them. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You have an ambitious plan for home improvement, but remember that you are only one person and can only do just so much alone. This is a good day for working on your budget and get- ting all those bills up to date and ready for mailing as soon as the first of the month rolls around. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You have learned to look at the future in a realistic manner, and will act in your own best interests when a few friends try to get you to become involved in one of their escapades and since your last experience with them you wisely back out and opt for a quiet day at home. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Since this is Saturday and you may not have to work today, you should use this time to catch up on some badly needed sleep, as you have been burning the midnight oil for quite a while now and it is sapping your energy and drive which is very noticeable at work. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) With a display of renewed optimism and courage you will be a shoo in for the first position that comes available, possibly later today, and you will always be a winner when you give free rein to these two traits of yours. You should guard against giving the wrong impression to a loved one. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Yes there is such a thing as an accident that is not your loved ones fault and this may be it so don't be so harsh in your judgment, and do be on hand to give out the hugs and reassurances. Today you may let an excellent financial opportunity pass you by unless you look sharp. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Work of a creative nature is indicated for today and you may wish to sign up for a course or even a seminar to help you toward your goals. Don't sign any legal papers without the advice of a lawyer, so if you must, wait on those until you can talk with one. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't go off on a tangent today when everything does not go according to the way you want it to, you must realize that others may have made separate plans from you and do not wish to change them. Be congenial and let your love show through as you bow to their wishes. There, that didn't hurt too much, did it? SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you place the emphasis on fun , and rightly so, conside- ing your wealth of choice when it comes to enjoyment. Try not to invite trouble today as everyone has a chance of being reasonable; you try to get each one to agree on a fun place to go; compromise another weekend to please some. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) If you combine your traits of aggressiveness with your natural charm today you will find yourself being a winner all day long. Today it would not be wise to 'shut another out' so that they cannot exercise their freedom of speech and express their opposition to your ideas. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Avoid making any type of commitment without getting the advice of experts today, and don't jump rashly into something that will cost you a bundle to get out of. Do not try as hard as you usually do to get attention today as the attention that you get may not be all that good. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You take a more active role in your groups activities and emerge the natural leader of the pack. Try not to get involved in anyone's disputes today even if it is only as a judge or a peacemaker as it could backfire and both sides will turn against you. A restaurant seems the logical choice for dinner."}, {"response": 592, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (00:43)", "body": "July 1, 2000 CANADA DAY Gemini (May 22-June 21) Saturday July 1, 2000 \"Time spent laughing is time spent with the gods.\"--Japanese proverb Today, the moon is in the sign of Cancer. You're in the third day of your new 28-day energy cycle, Gemini. It's Saturday, Gemini, and now is a good time for you to take a serious look at your financial and economic situation. Do an inventory of your assets, talents, and resources. If you think you're not getting a good enough return on the time and energy you're investing in someone or something, now's the time to reevaluate the whole situation. If your finances are out of order, today's the day to put yourself on a budget. If you need to discuss a financial matter with a family member or friend, do it today. Now is also a great time to hear some new and interesting ideas about making some extra money on the side. Keep your ears open and your antennae up! (antennae up!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Saturday July 1, 2000 Today, the Sun and Moon are both passing through the Sign of Cancer. This means you're beginning a new four-week energy cycle. It's time for your body, soul, and mind to go through their monthly recharging process. The little kid in you, the you who wants to feel free, safe, and secure will be trying hard to get your attention today. Listen to your feelings. The way you relate with others reflects how you're relating to the little kid in yourself. If you don't feel very energetic today, it's because you're recharging. Go slow. Keep a low profile. Don't push yourself. You need the time and space it takes for your battery to recharge. You're due to feel the first burst of your new energy one week from now, on July 7. (My little kid self will see your little kid self in a week...!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Saturday July 1, 2000 Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.\" - Anonymous (You're currently in the third week of your energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Cancer, a sensitive, impressionable Sign that is usually difficult for Sagittarius to understand. When the Moon passes through Cancer, something comes over you. For some strange reason, you're drawn to intense, powerful people who have a strong effect on you. It may be only a momentary thing. Sometimes it will be more intense. Be aware that your emotional and sexual needs are demanding more attention than usual now. Financial issues also arise at this time. It's time to get your debts in order. Today is also a good time to work on self-healing efforts, whether your concern is physical, emotional, or spiritual. Have a healing experience!"}, {"response": 593, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (07:31)", "body": "At least I'm not starting a new energy cycle as these things always tell me! Good advice!"}, {"response": 594, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (12:59)", "body": "I can't tell when mine start and end - perhaps they indulge in psychology on the side? The Power of Positive Thinking?"}, {"response": 595, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 2, 2000 (16:38)", "body": "July 2, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Sunday July 2, 2000 \"Everyone is entitled to my opinion.\"--funny bumper sticker You started a new 28-day energy cycle on June 29. Today, the moon is in the sign of Cancer, Gemini. Today, let's catch up on what Venus is doing in your horoscope. Venus symbolizes the \"magnetic,\" pleasure-loving and profit-seeking side of your personality. The task of your Venus side is to attract whatever you love and desire. Consider this: Since June 16, Venus has been passing through Cancer, a water sign that ruffles Gemini's feathers. This means that since June 16 your chances for attracting what you want have been less than 50/50. You've probably been getting a less-than-expected return on the time, money, and energy you've spent since then. Venus stays in Cancer until July 13. Don't worry, Gemini! Wait 'til the period of July 13-August 5 when Lady Luck will once again be knocking at your door. (Oh no... another set of hormonals coming my way?!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Sunday July 2, 2000 \"Life is like an onion; you peel off one layer at a time; sometimes, you weep.\" Anonymous Yesterday you began a new 28-day energy cycle. Today, the Moon is still in the Sign of Cancer. Soul alert! Lately, a bunch of planets have been passing through the Sign of Cancer. Cancer symbolizes our basic, elementary need for self-esteem. So, Cancer, what needs to happen for you to feel good about yourself? Be willing to look and see if you're being a good parent for the little child inside yourself. Are you feeding your little kid the daily quota of nurturance and support it depends on you to provide? Honestly ask yourself: \"How good am I willing to feel about myself?\" (I can help, if you'd like!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sunday July 2, 2000 Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"Unfortunately, for many people, religion is a defense against the experience of God.\" - Dr. Carl Jung Let's catch up on what Venus is doing in your horoscope. Venus symbolizes the \"magnetic\" side of your personality. It's your pleasure-loving and profit-seeking side. Whether you call it \"lady luck,\" your \"charisma,\" or charm, your Venus side attracts whatever you love and desire. Consider this: Since June 16, Venus has been passing through Cancer, a Water Sign that usually dampens your Sagittarian high spirits. Water and Fire create steam. This means that, since June 16, your chances for attracting what you want have been less than 50/50. You've probably been getting a less-than-expected return on the time, money and energy you've spent since then. Venus stays in Cancer until July 13. So, Sagittarius, if you've been plagued by the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune since June 16, take heart. Your luck changes and your charm will work better during July 13-August 5. That's when Venus passes through Leo, one of your fellow Fire Signs, and, once again, it will be a safer bet for you to count on luck. (oh my......)"}, {"response": 596, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 2, 2000 (21:28)", "body": "July 3, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This is the day to give one last tug to those ties that are holding you back, and they will drop away like magic. If you've been feeling 'left out in the cold' in any areas, today you will see your way clear to move towards warmth and comfort. Take advantage of your 'empowerment'. A great day to 'break free'! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Slow down if you're going too fast, because you may find you've been running in circles. Adjust your course and you'll start getting somewhere! You may feel the effect of Mercury retrograde today - meaning some minor problems with communications, transportation and electronic equipment. Put it down to what it is - weird energy! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra It's the perfect day to spend a little quality time with your SELF if you can. Even if you have to lock yourself in the bathroom to 'get away', it will do you a world of good. Still your mind. Some quiet contemplation could bring on a flash of genius! A person born in September may say something worth listening to today. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A great day to take matters unto your own hands, and with steady purpose, to succeed at your task. Don't be surprised if you find yourself receiving some award or recognition today - you deserve it!"}, {"response": 597, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jul 3, 2000 (18:33)", "body": "oh that's weird (gemini), my dad was born in september. haven't heard a peep from him, but the day's not over yet."}, {"response": 598, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 3, 2000 (22:34)", "body": "Not sure about what month the guy I spent the day in IM with was born. I have to ask. He has a way of ignoring questions he does not want to answer..."}, {"response": 599, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 4, 2000 (12:16)", "body": "July 4, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Tuesday July 4, 2000 \"I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory.\"--T-shirt wisdom You're currently ending the first week of your energy cycle. Today, the moon is in Leo, a fun-loving, spontaneous sign that's sympatico with funny and light-hearted Gemini. When the moon passes through Leo each month, it's usually a busy time for you. Generally, it's a good time for communications. Catch up on your e-mail and phone calls. It's a time for giving or attending talks, presentations, etc. Today' s a good day to get in touch with your relatives or neighbors and catch up on the gossip. (more of the same, in other words) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Tuesday July 4, 2000 \"No one can build his security upon the nobleness of another person.\" Willa Cather The Moon is in the Sign of Leo today. Currently, you're in the first week of your 28-day energy cycle. Today, let's catch up on what Venus is doing in your horoscope. Venus symbolizes the 'magnetic' side of your personality. It's your pleasure-loving and profit-seeking side. Call it 'lady luck' or 'charisma', your Venus side attracts whatever you love and desire. Consider this: since June 16, Venus has been passing through your Sign of Cancer. Let's hope the planet of love and money has been good to you. Venus stays in Cancer until July 13. This means that, during this timeframe, your chances for attracting what you want are better than 50/50. You get a better return on the time, money and energy you spend to get what you want and value. However, the opposite will be true during July 13 -- August 5, when Venus passes through Leo. Don't plan to count on your luck during that period. Do your best between now and July 13. Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Tuesday July 4, 2000 Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.\" - Gandhi Soul Alert! Lately, a bunch of planets have been passing through the Sign of Cancer. Cancer symbolizes our basic, elementary need for Self-Esteem. So, Sagittarius, what do you need to be doing to feel better about yourself? Be willing to LOOK and SEE if you're being a good parent for the little child inside yourself. Are you feeding your little kid the daily quota of excitement, adventure, and meaning that it depends on you to provide? Honestly ask yourself: \"How good am I willing to feel about myself?\""}, {"response": 600, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 4, 2000 (22:24)", "body": "July 5, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If you are not living up to your full potential, it will become apparent today. This does not necessarily mean you need to WORK harder, but perhaps to put more of your SELF into what you do. Half-formed dreams are not likely to come true, so apply yourself a little more to your hopes, and make use of all your talents. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may find yourself 'getting away with something' today, but you'll have to be quick and clever about it! At the same time, watch your back and keep an eye on what's important to you, as others might be playing the same game with you! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Everything is beautiful today - and love is all around. Spend some time with that special someone, and don't hold back. If you are single, keep your eyes open for that special person today. A walk in the park or somewhere in nature will delight your spirit. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today and tomorrow may find you at a bit of a of disadvantage when it comes to defending yourself against 'attack'. A verbal attack or even a physical blow could come out of left field and catch you off guard. Avoid confrontations wherever possible - you'll be glad you did."}, {"response": 601, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 4, 2000 (23:49)", "body": "July 5, 2000 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Wednesday July 5, 2000 \"The thing that impresses me the most about America is the way parents obey their children.\"-- King Edward VIII The Moon is passing through Virgo, a Sign that is congenial with Cancer. This means that today it will be easier for you to be 'in the zone' as you do your work and deal with others. You're still in the first week of your new energy cycle. Tell yourself what you want to accomplish between now and July 28. Your energy is still building. Get ready for the first burst of your new energy two days from now, on July 7. Do something constructive today. Take advantage of any opportunity that's staring you in the face. In general, the Stars are right for things to go your way today. Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Wednesday July 5, 2000 Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"Be faithful to that which exists nowhere but in yourself - and thus make yourself indispensable.\" - Andre Gide The Moon is passing through Virgo, a Sign that clashes with Sagittarius. You're in the fourth and final week of the energy cycle you started back on June 15. You've reached your last Turning Point. You're due to experience one final burst of the physical and emotional energy you've been releasing for the past week. Your goal or intention for your current energy cycle is now going through its final test. If things are going your way today, you'll be free to experience your burst of physical and emotional energy any way you please. If things aren't going your way, don't be hard on yourself. Ask the little kid in you for forgiveness if you haven't been a good parent lately. Don't give up on yourself. Gemini (May 22-June 21) Wednesday July 5, 2000 \"Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.\"--funny bumper sticker The moon is passing through Virgo, a sign that usually takes the wind out of Gemini's sails. You've reached the first turning point in the new energy cycle you started last Thursday. You're feeling the first burst of the physical and emotional energy that's been building up since then. If everything's going fine in your life now, your burst of physical, emotional, and mental energy should be fun. If things aren't going so hot for you today, maybe it's time for you to reinforce your intention. What do you want to happen during this energy cycle? Renew your will to DO what's good for you. Take time to deal with the little problems that come up now. Don't give up. And don't forget to b-r-e-a-t-h-e! (July 4th was terrible - hope I never have another day like this one!)"}, {"response": 602, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 5, 2000 (14:28)", "body": "July 5, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you are left with mixed feelings toward someone that you had placed your entire trust in only to find out this person is not only far from ethical, he/she is also far from caring about the unethical things they are doing. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Being bull headed and hard to get along with today may bring you more trouble than you truly want to deal with right now. Try to lighten up and give the others some breathing room; believe it or not they are capable of doing their assigned jobs. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Don't be wishy washy today whether it comes to business decisions or decisions about your love affair. If you make a firm decision don't let it turn to quicksand and swallow up your formerly strong resolve. CANCER (June 22-July 22) After a day spent in disappointing search for a new place to live you are beat. Just as you are ready to give up and call it a day you find just the right place at just the right price so the lease is signed on the spot. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A new friend walks into your life today and if you are single, he or she continues right on into your heart. This is the one that should make all your dreams of a home and family come true. On other fronts the news is good, especially about a job change. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Day trading can get out of hand and keep you glued to that monitor all day every day with no exercise break, (I mean more exercise than just walking to the fridge!). A hot new money making idea may have others running with the prover- bial ball to a touchdown. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Children have a way of growing up when you least expect it, look around and they are grown. You still can't beleive that your youngest is getting married, but paste a smile on your face and get along with the intended...this way you see more of the grand kids when they come along. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A break in the weather has you headed for the great outdoors. It may not be any further than the yard but you can soak up some sunshine while clearing away the winter debris and plan- ning where you will put your spring garden. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Paying a teenager out of trouble is never wise as there is no way left to teach them that what they did was wrong, and that they must learn from their mistakes in order to have any mean- ing to their lives. Tough love really does help. CAPRICORN Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Taking your work home with you is getting old to the family as they know that it is not necessary to keep your job. Leave it at work and give your family the time, love, and understanding that you implied when you said I do. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) An estranged parent still has fond memories of a childhood of happy laughter. Getting in touch with that person would be a worthwhile and loving thing to do. You would never regret it. Your own child has shown you how hurtful certain things can be. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Being a partial fire sign, if you are born on the cusp, could give you some mixed up feelings today as you feel that you should be conservative about a certain thing but your fire side wants to chuck caution to the winds and just go for it."}, {"response": 603, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 6, 2000 (21:58)", "body": "July 6, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A lost love or maybe a returning member of the family brings you great happiness today as it gives you a chance to clear up some long standing ill feelings you have had in the past. You are older now and more likely to forgive. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your new friend is a Aries and you can be sure that this person has your own best interests at heart and helps you overcome the damage done by a Sagittarius. Those who are married must be careful not to put anything above the family except God. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Before you take that final step think how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot and that person may not seem quite so sexy to you. Children don't miss much, watch your conversation around them. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You have a bet on about who has more technical knowledge about certain things and you, instead of bragging, go get some books and start to learn in private, in this way you are sure to win the bet. Don't let well meaning friends know too many details about your new romantic interest. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Angry with someone? Why waste your time and energy? If you truly want to get someone's goat just go on about your daily business with a smile on your face and they will hardly be able to believe that your day has not been spoiled by them, or by your anger at them. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A good way to find a new love is to go to as many outings as possible, also signing up for classes will also result in meeting interesting people. Married people out there will find they are getting along pretty well financially. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you review what you have accomplished in the last few weeks and to your judgmental eye it is not quite up to the standards that you have set, so you start the tedious task of overhaul. Your final efforts promise to be outstanding and will make quite an impact. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You may feel that you have found your love on the rebound and he or she could not care as much for you as you would like, you are very wrong on that score as this person harbors no love for the 'other' one and you have actually found a pearl of rare price. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your actions may seem strange to some people you know, but those that know you understand perfectly, and if you per- sist you will emerge the victor, but will what you win be really worth the effort you have made to get it? CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) While the norm is to make a decision and stick with it, which you almost always do, that is not recommended today as changing your mind this afternoon could save the day for everyone involved. Don't stick your neck out or walk out on a limb today as someone could be waiting with a new saw. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You are in for an inheritance and while it is a sad occasion, you find that you are most grateful for the thoughtfulness of the person who provided for you. Never let a day go by with- out telling those near and dear to you how you feel. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today you may meet some obstacles that are tossed in your romantic path but you will find them easy to overcome as you turn on the charm. You may find a latent talent makes itself manifest today and surprise everyone and yourself most of all. Make the most of it."}, {"response": 604, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 6, 2000 (22:57)", "body": "July 6, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It is very true that the more you give, the more you get, so watch out for any stinginess of spirit, emotions, or for putting too much value on material goods. If someone owes you, you may not get it back, so maybe today is a good day to let go of expectations in this regard. Many blessings will return to you if you demonstrate true generosity. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Someone might be trying to pull the wool over your eyes, so make sure everything is 'on the table' before you make any important decisions. The hand is sometimes quicker than the eye, so don't trust something for its appearance. That goes for trusting people too. On another note - if you are hesitating to show your best side, how do you expect others to see the best in you? AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra There may be a fly in the ointment today - no matter how well you've planned things out, a party-pooper may want to spoil the mood. It's up to you whether you make a big deal out of it or not. Minor annoyances may well blow over with the wind. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces If you've been 'making a stand' on a certain issue, you may find the ground slipping away a little from underneath you. It is probably best not to engage in a head-on confrontation today. A better approach is to quietly make plans and set them in motion when the environment is more promising."}, {"response": 605, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 6, 2000 (23:13)", "body": "July 7, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Family finances or domestic problems are possible today. In fact, a skeleton may pop out of the family closet and say BOO! Restructuring and an ability to 'hold the fort down' are highlighted. A good day to give some thought to home security. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You are the king or queen of all you survey today. Nature is working hand in hand with your desires - so maybe it's time to honour nature with a special gesture today. A great day to call your Mom or other maternal figure in your life and say \"I love you\". AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may visit or contact someone in the hospital or someone who is convalescing today. Your quiet words of encouragement will mean a lot. You may have a special urge to pray or meditate today - the quiet contemplation will refresh your soul. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A new opportunity or a helping hand may appear today from an unexpected source. Welcome it, but don't neglect the projects or assets which you have already built up. They are truly blessings and as valuable as the new gifts or ventures which enter the picture."}, {"response": 606, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 7, 2000 (00:19)", "body": "July 7, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Dilemma Solved--\"When you come to the fork in the road, take it.\" You're currently in the second week of your energy cycle, Gemini. Today, the moon is in Libra, a pleasant, sociable air sign, just like Gemini. Each month, when the moon passes through Libra, it's recreation time for you. Today, do something pleasurable, romantic, or creative. Let the little kid in you come out to play. It's a good time to work up a sweat and give your heart some good exercise. When the moon passes through Libra each month, make it a point to schedule some time to hang out and have fun with some of your best friends. Today, try to not get so wrapped up in your own feelings that you can't think straight. (This is so true it is spooky! Anyone care to join me??) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"The reason grandparents and grandchildren get along so well is that they have a common enemy.\"-- Sam Levenson The Moon is passing through Libra, a Sign that is not in harmony with Cancer. You've reached the first turning point in the new energy cycle you started one week ago. You're feeling the first burst of the physical and emotional energy that's been building up since your new cycle began. If everything's going fine in your life now, you'll feel free to use your bursts of physical, emotional, and mental energy any way you want. If you feel that things aren't going your way today, it's time to reinforce your intention. What do you want to happen during this energy cycle? Renew your will to do what's good for you. Take time to deal with the little problems that come up now. Don't give up. (Come play with my inner child???!!!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"If you think you can win, you can win. Faith is necessary to victory.\" - William Hazlitt The Moon is passing through Libra, a Sign that is congenial with Sagittarius. This means that, in general, you'll be easier to get along with today. You'll be feeling more at ease with the little kid in you. You're passing through the fourth and final week of your current energy cycle. It's high time to follow up on any promising new contacts you've made in the past three weeks. It's also time to \"get over it and get on with it\" if the past three weeks have been frustrating and unfruitful for you. You'll be starting a new four-week energy cycle on July 12. Between now and then, count your blessings, cut your losses, and get your surfboard ready for the new wave of energy that's already coming your way. (You could stand to play some, too!)"}, {"response": 607, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jul 7, 2000 (07:35)", "body": "(Do you want to be teacher again, or shall I? Sitting on the steps waiting for you ..... Oh and I've brought my skipping rope *giggle*)"}, {"response": 608, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 7, 2000 (11:55)", "body": "We can trade being teacher...depending on the subject *grin* Have chalk for hop scotch and my pink rubber ball..."}, {"response": 609, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 8, 2000 (18:29)", "body": "June 8, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): You feel as if you have to have to act to correct matters, but you do it on your own without consulting anyone. It's difficult, but let people know what you intend, and accept feedback on its advisability. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You're full of grandiose ideas today, but you should scale them down in order to make them work. You think in terms of unquestioned success, but taking the risk into account should make you hedge your bets. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): If you haven't gotten your spending under control yet, this is your last chance. Many temptations arise today, and you're particularly open to advertising schemes to make you think that you're needy. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Prepare your day with meditation first. With a clear mind, set your priorities for the day. You need solid intentions in order to face the onslaught of demands and distractions. Seek to be of service. LEO (July 23-August 22): All-out effort can result in having no reserves left. Seek a middle ground of minimally effective effort backed with enthusiasm. Trying too hard creates tension with others. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): You want to succeed in a big and flashy way today. You could be putting undeserved emphasis on style over substance. You also tend to act as if you've achieved your objectives before you're finished. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): Your lessons on being in charge are not completely learned. Be careful exercising your authority, because it can go to your head. Seek to direct through as little effort as necessary. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): It's time to be more concerned with your own ethics rather than trying to dictate them to others. Concentrate on what you can do to make things run right. Trying to control others is the wrong approach. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): Conflicts with your spouse or close business associate can arise over the household expenditures. Extravagance is a legitimate concern. Work toward agreeing on controlling spending. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): You put more importance on show over substance. You may have to resort to making an impression, but be sure you can back it up if pressed. You need competition in order to push yourself harder. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Strive for moderation when you amuse yourself today. Over-indulgences and excesses work against both your health and money reserves. Don't waste yourself when you could be uplifting others. PISCES (February 19-March 20): Put your faith in your own efforts today, not in blind luck. Windfalls are unlikely, and expected good fortune probably won't pan out. Create your own luck; become worthy of respect; don't expect handouts."}, {"response": 610, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 8, 2000 (18:56)", "body": "there goes the new car dreams i had *grin*"}, {"response": 611, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 8, 2000 (19:06)", "body": "They got the wrong Gemini - that sound like the resident Taurus..."}, {"response": 612, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 8, 2000 (19:18)", "body": "July 8, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Currently, you're in the second week of your 28-day energy cycle. The moon is in the sign of Libra. Today, let's see what's going on between you and Mercury. Astrologically, the planet Mercury is associated with Gemini. Mercury symbolizes your thinking side. It plays the role of the communicator in your personality. During the nine-week period from May 30 to August 7, Mercury is passing through Cancer, a sign that is usually not on your Gemini wavelength. The overall quality of your thinking and communicating with others will not be up to par during the period. Don't waste time playing silly mind games. Make your point and let it go at that. To make things worse, \"Murphy's Law\" (\"If something can go wrong, it will\") is in effect during June 23-July 17. Usually, things done during Murphy's Law have to be redone later. If possible, don't do anything new or different until July 18. 'Til then, only do things that begin with \"re-\" (rearrange, renegotiate, review, return, etc.). Communications will go better for you when Mercury passes through Leo during August 7-22. (Recreate??) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"When I was kidnapped, my parents snapped into action. They rented out my room.\"-- Woody Allen You've just begun the second week of your energy cycle. Today, the Moon is in Libra, a social, political Sign that conflicts with Cancer. When the Moon passes through this Sign each month, it would be good for you to pay more attention to your diet and to your living space. If you haven't been eating right lately, promise yourself today that you'll do better. Have you been neglecting your home or apartment? Put some energy into making your home a warm, nurturing, clean place to be. If you feel like it, do some re-decorating. Does your living space seem drab or boring? Rearrange your furniture. Do some serious cleaning. It's a good time of the month for you to renew family ties. Call home, just to say \"Hi\" and \"How are you?\" Fix your favorite meal and invite people you care about to come and share it with you. (Hasn't eaten right ever...just makes sure every one else does) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"A better world shall emerge based on faith and understanding.\" - Gen. Douglas MacArthur (You're still in the final week of your 28-day energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Libra, a friendly, outgoing Sign that gets along great with Sagittarius. During this time each month, it's good for you to connect with friends or groups with whom you have a close or emotional connection. Call a friend who is going through a rough time now and could use some support. Or, maybe you're the one in need and could use a friend today. Call the first friend who comes to mind as you read this. Don't be surprised if both of you are very glad you reached out and got in touch. Renew ties with nutritious friends. If you need help from a group or organization to which you belong, today is a good time to make contact. (OK, who needs the phone call - I am close to 3 Sagittari)"}, {"response": 613, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (00:11)", "body": "July 9, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) \"The 2 rules for success: 1. Never tell all you know.\"--bumper sticker wisdom You're currently ending the second week of your energy cycle. Today, the moon is in Scorpio, a mysterious, enigmatic sign, the depths of which Gemini usually can't fathom. Today, little things will mean a lot more than usual. The best way to get the most mileage out of your time today is to put your nose to the grindstone and work hard. Mind your own business today and you can avoid the petty jealousies, ego conflicts, and unsettling work conditions you usually experience when the moon passes through Scorpio each month. Don't let emotional stress aggravate any health concern. Devote some time today to improve your health or nutrition. Exercise. And, for goodness sake, don't forget to B-R-E-A-T-H-E. (if I get in any deeper...) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"If your parents never had children, chances are you won't, either.\" Dick Cavett Today the Moon is passing through Scorpio, a Water Sign just like Cancer. Normally, this is a pleasant time for you. You're in the second week of the cycle you began on July 1. At this stage of your monthly cycle, the relationship between you and the little kid in you is usually pretty good. You're able to relate to people more easily now. You feel better about yourself than you were feeling three to four days ago. Your efforts to make things happen will meet with less resistance now. Obviously this is a good time for furthering your cause. Your relations with the opposite sex are better now. Your energy level is due to reach its peak in four to five days. Take advantage of every opportunity to create a peak experience for yourself. (*big sigh*) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"A better world shall emerge based on faith and understanding.\" - Charles Schulz (You're in the final days of your 28-day energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Scorpio, the Sign that comes right before Sagittarius in the Zodiac. This means that you'll be starting a new energy cycle soon. But not yet. This is the time to go within yourself and sort things out. You'll feel tempted to withdraw and go into your cocoon. Make it OK to take a short retreat, to rest, be quiet, and figure out what's going on in your life. During this end-time period in your energy cycle, ask yourself: \"What is it, right now, that I need to forgive myself for?\" Call upon your Higher Power to help you rise above the desire to shame and blame others for your problems."}, {"response": 614, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (21:17)", "body": "July 10, 2000 - GEO's 1ST ANNIVERSARY EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today is a good day to sit back and make some plans. Shoot for the stars! Ideas will be flowing freely so make sure to write them down as not to lose them. You might want to share some of these thoughts with a close friend. This person might be able to put some of your ideas into reality. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Today is going to be an intense day for you. You're going to have to lead the charge to fight for what's right. You'll be surprised at what strength you'll find inside and others will admire you for your courage in confronting the issue. Stand your ground - you have the support of those around you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Know that prized possession you've been chasing after? You're going to have to figure out some new ways to make that monthly payment before you can get what you want. Consult a financial planner to get tips on how to swing that major purchase or it's going to be out of your reach longer than it needs to be. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A father figure in your life is going to be laying down some rules that others don't like. Don't get caught up in the gossip. Morale will actually be lifted in the long run because those who aren't ready for the heat are going to get out of the kitchen."}, {"response": 615, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "July 10, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A few good ideas from a friend who has been keeping an eye on your home based business, may be just what you have been look- ing for. When this person starts to tell you about it be sure to listen as you will only get the one chance. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Children may feel out of sorts today but you deal admirably well with them. An unexpected guest shows up and you find yourself pressed for space but you do not let this stop you from making this person welcome. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your mind will be on research today and you find you have an idea that turns it into a new inspired form of work, or method of research, that will get you to your goal faster. Talking with project managers will be helpful for you today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You will have a small domestic dispute in the evening after a rough day at work. dealing with the public is favored today as your charm is on display, and you will have a greater response to your ideas than you have had in the past. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Do not take everything you hear today as truth, adopt a show me attitude, as there is a good chance of deception in your affairs now. This is not a good day to lend money as you may never see it again. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This is your day for inspiration and creativity as your ability to express yourself is at its optimum today. Talk- ing with financial managers and partners are also favored at this time. A family conference is called and you put your two cents worth in. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a good day to stay away from all gambling pursuits, and this includes bingo, as there could be losses you. Domestic activity should be of great interest to you tonight as your spouse may have quite a surprise for you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Inspired and inspiring ideas are yours in the afternoon but daydreaming at work is not recommended today as this could possibly cause you to have an accident if you work around any type of machinery by becoming absent minded at the wrong time. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) While your mind is forced to deal with basics today your heart is filled with love. A long running domestic dispute has you worried but you act in a practical manner in making up with your spouse. Express the love if you hope to win this one. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This would be a good day to take a few financial risks, as everything holds the possibility of gain today. At long last your partner agrees with you and you finally go ahead and implement the changes you knew would be necessary. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Be careful you do not overdo the spending and clean out the savings account you recently started. If you use all your rainy day funds now you could be in trouble when a real thunderstorm comes along. A good move at work puts you on top. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A rare, carefree day when you can call your life your own and everything seems to click into place for you. You will find it easy today to finish out plans and agreements you have been involved in; and even the children are acting like angels."}, {"response": 616, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (12:05)", "body": "July 10, 2000 - Geo's Birthday Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"I plan on living forever. So far, so good You're in the second week of your 28-day energy cycle. The moon is passing through Scorpio today. Astrologically, the sun is the symbol for your willpower. It represents your ability to make things go your way. During June 21-July 21, the sun passes through Cancer, a water sign. Gemini is an air sign. Like water and air, Cancer and Gemini don't easily mix. Every year, while the sun is in Cancer, your willpower is less focused. You have to try harder and be more patient. Other things in your horoscope might compensate for this. If, however, your past experience shows that June 21-July 21 is not usually a good time for you, plan accordingly. Don't start things or do anything you can put off until the sun passes through Leo (July 22-August 21). (Hmmm...and to think we created Geo using a Gemini and a Cancer to do it) Cancer (June 22-July 22) \"Cancer Quote of the Day: Parents were invented to make children happy by giving them something to ignore.\"--Ogden Nash You're currently in the second week of your energy cycle. Today, the Moon is in Scorpio, a sensitive, introverted Sign, just like Cancer. Each month, when the Moon passes through this Sign, it's time for you to let the little kid inside you out to play and have some fun. Today, do something pleasurable, romantic or creative. Do something you really love to do. It's a good time to work up a sweat and give your heart some good exercise. Make it a point to schedule some time for your favorite leisurely activities or hobbies. Today, try not to get so wrapped up in your own feelings that you become unaware of the feelings of people around you. (ready when you are!) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"A better world shall emerge based on faith and understanding.\" - Charles Schulz (You're in the final days of your 28-day energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Scorpio, the Sign that comes right before Sagittarius in the Zodiac. This means that you'll be starting a new energy cycle soon. But not yet. This is the time to go within yourself and sort things out. You'll feel tempted to withdraw and go into your cocoon. Make it OK to take a short retreat, to rest, be quiet, and figure out what's going on in your life. During this end-time period in your energy cycle, ask yourself: \"What is it, right now, that I need to forgive myself for?\" Call upon your Higher Power to help you rise above the desire to shame and blame others for your problems."}, {"response": 617, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (21:45)", "body": "July 11, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Children need your love badly today as they get into what you would term 'kid trouble' but never-the-less world shaking to them. All the signs are right for a lucky change today so be on the alert for good things coming your way. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A friend, who may be in a dilemma may need your help and under- standing. Be patient and wait for what you really want...it will be all the more sweeter for the delay. Life is short, and you should live it one day at a time. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Visiting relatives will bring good news and happiness to you. Today you will be called upon to help someone you have often felt antagonistic toward. This could be a spiritual test for you and how you meet it will show the true spirit within. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A new friend is not the kind of person you need in your life right now and you finally wise up and show this person the road. Friends introduce you to someone you can really get to know, perhaps for the rest of your life. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) The going is tough for a while today but you manage to con- vince your spouse that you will always play it straight and you are forgiven. Be sure you keep that promise. Honesty is always the best policy as you will find out today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Tou may experience some sadness early in the day but you manage to get through it with some supposrt from others. You exert your natural will power and stay upbeat. A friend will be arriving today and you are overjoyed. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Having helped a loved one this far don't just walk away and expect her to run everything on her own. It doesn't work that way! You wouldn't put an infant in an airplane and ex- pect it to fly, would you? So, get in there and teach this person the steps to success. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Before you condemn someone first try to take a look inside your self, maybe it isn't them at all but really yourself that you are upset with. Had a checkup lately? It should be nothing serious but you should see to it. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) An opportunity to make a shrewd investment are presented to you today. Take time to investigate just to be sure it is sound reasoning behind it. If you are not already in business for yourself you are thinking about it and the opportunity could be finding the right partner. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your powers of logical reasoning are not at the highest today and you could make a poor choice. Be careful! The world is yours in every other way though, so sit back and enjoy your personal day of popularity. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your spiritual energies run high today and could draw an unusual event. Angels come out to play today and it is likely you will encounter one. Meditate well on your dreams as they carry a message for you from those who have gone before. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today the fulfillment of a dream is yours as the one you love, loves you back. There will be many changes going on today, so it will be best to just let it happen. There is nothing that will harm you and much that will be spiritually uplifting."}, {"response": 618, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (21:51)", "body": "July 11, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A person you least expect may be upsetting you today with some harsh words. Don't take them to heart - she's just having a bad day. If you don't retaliate, you'll get a quick apology and you'll be able to put this silly argument behind you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Someone will find he had the wrong ideas about you at work. Don't be surprised if this person acts totally different towards you and gives you new responsibility. You've proven yourself to be capable of handling the task with great success. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra All the pieces have finally come together to make your business plan a solid one. Though you may be scared to ask for help, find the courage to make your request. Roll up your sleeves, you're going to be elbow deep in work soon! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A new addition to the family will bring lots of joy today. You'll have the opportunity to get together with loved one to celebrate. Make sure you go home early, you still have to get up for work tomorrow even if others don't."}, {"response": 619, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (17:51)", "body": "July 11, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"If there were no hypothetical questions, what would this say?\" Gemini, today, you're at the halfway point of your energy cycle. The wave of energy released two weeks ago will reach its maximum strength tomorrow. Today is the time to make last minute changes in your plans, to get your house in order, and to prepare for opportunities or breakthroughs. At this point, it is your attitude, more than anything else, that will determine what will happen tomorrow. (My admirers are very low key today...) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"The first half of our lives is ruined by our parents, and the second half by our children.\"-- Clarence Darrow The Moon is passing through Scorpio today. Currently, you're in the second week of your 28-day energy cycle. Astrologically, the Sun is the symbol for your will power. It represents your ability to make things go your way. Every year, during June 21-July 21, the Sun passes through your birth Sign of Cancer. You're \"in season.\" Generally, you're more in touch with your own feelings and needs during this period. You have better than a 50/50 chance of making things go your way. Of course, other things in your horoscope could counter-indicate this in your case. If, however, past experience shows that June 21-July 21 is usually a good time for you, plan accordingly each year. Do things you enjoy. You lose your winning edge when the Sun passes through Leo (July 22-August 21). Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"The first half of our lives is ruined by our parents, and the second half by our children.\"-- Clarence Darrow The Moon is passing through Scorpio today. Currently, you're in the second week of your 28-day energy cycle. Astrologically, the Sun is the symbol for your will power. It represents your ability to make things go your way. Every year, during June 21-July 21, the Sun passes through your birth Sign of Cancer. You're \"in season.\" Generally, you're more in touch with your own feelings and needs during this period. You have better than a 50/50 chance of making things go your way. Of course, other things in your horoscope could counter-indicate this in your case. If, however, past experience shows that June 21-July 21 is usually a good time for you, plan accordingly each year. Do things you enjoy. You lose your winning edge when the Sun passes through Leo (July 22-August 21). Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"My philosophy is that not only are you responsible for your life, but doing the best at this moment puts you in the best place for the next moment.\" - Oprah Winfrey (Currently, you're in the final days of your current 28-day energy cycle. The Moon is passing through Scorpio today.) Astrologically, the SUN is the symbol for your WILL POWER. It represents your ability to make things go your way. During June 21-July 21, the Sun passes through Cancer, a Water Sign. Sagittarius is a Fire Sign. Like Water and Fire, Cancer and Sagittarius don't interact well together. Every year, while the Sun is in Cancer, your will power is less focused. Your enthusiasm is not as great. You have to try harder and be more patient. Other things in your horoscope might compensate for this. If, however, your past experience shows that June 21-July 21 is not usually a good time for you, plan accordingly. Don't start things or do anything you can put off until the Sun passes through Leo (July 22-August 21)."}, {"response": 620, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (00:33)", "body": "July 12, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This should be a very happy day with family and friends for most of you Aries folks out there. Although Aries does not have a very great sense of humor, you all have a great sense of fun, and that is why so many people like you on first sight. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You didn't really expect it but a boost in income is coming your way today. A social affair with friends and family goes well, even the ones you barely get along with most of the time. Children will be extra good for you today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Have a few friends in for dinner and show off your cooking skills. Not just the women, the men too make excellent cooks, trained or not! Someone that you would rather not have as a guest shows up for dinner with a friend and you do the gracious thing. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Working for a living is not strange for you, so you may be the one asked to work on your day off. The worry you had about finances has cleared up and you now see that placing your trust in God is the only way to go. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Arguing about where to go for your evening out shows only one thing: someone is desperate for something to argue about! Early today you may feel like losing it with a coworker but you talk instead and as you draw this person out your anger turns to pity. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This will be a hard day at work as you try to catch up on some things that has become backlogged on you. Try dele- gating some of the responsibility to others and it will ease your task. Your home based business or your web page may be taking up too much of your time and the time of choice is here? LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Ever see an angel? Today is just right for it as God was never so close to your heart as now. When loving and giv- ing is so close to every ones heart an angel encounter may not seem like much of a test but look for times when you feel downright mean, that is when it is likely to happen to you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A few problems at work today but you will quickly get them taken care of. Stay out of quarrels as someone may try to get you in on their side and you have always known better than to take sides, this refusal to agree may cause a rift with a friend. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today may find you suffering from some kind of ailment, perhaps a sprained ankle, that keeps you from doing most of the things you usually do every day. The family pitchs in to help you cope and saves your day from being dreary. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A current love may be leading you on and this will show up today when someone lets the cat out of the bag. You are not too concerned as it only confirmed your suspicions. Today at work is not all that you have wished for but at least you managed to get the finance dept. straight. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your lament today is: everyone gets a day off but me, cheer up, unless there is a change in attitude you may have quite a few days off, a good friend clues you in and you change your attitude. Friends and family draw closer to you today. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You run the chance of catching a bad cold if you do not take care of your health and keep up your vitamin regimen that you may have let slip. Don't get excited today as a friend becomes angry with someone that you hold dear; they are grown people and can work it out."}, {"response": 621, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (13:19)", "body": "July 12, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once.\" The moon is passing through Sagittarius, the sign that is the opposite of Gemini. This means that you've reached the halfway point in your monthly energy cycle. For the next two weeks, you'll be releasing the physical and emotional energy that started to build up inside when your new cycle began two weeks ago. If things are going well for you now, great! You'll experience your burst of energy in good and positive ways. If you're not doing well now, don't make it worse by trying to force things to happen. Notice how you're tempted to project the cause of your frustration and unhappiness out onto those around you. Individuals with whom you are at odds now are mirroring back to you something you cannot see in yourself. During these next two weeks, follow up on and finish what you started two weeks ago. Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"The best inheritance a parent can give to his children is a few minutes of time each day.\"-- M. Grundler You're currently ending the second week of your energy cycle.Today, the Moon is in Sagittarius, a somewhat extravagant, flamboyant Sign with which Cancer usually can't get along without making a lot of adjustments. Today, little things will mean a lot more than usual. The best way to get the most mileage out of your time today is to put your nose to the grindstone and work hard. Mind your own business today and you can avoid the petty ego conflicts and unsettling work conditions you usually experience at this time each month. Don't let emotional stress aggravate any health concern. Devote some time today to improve your health or nutrition. Exercise. See a health professional. Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.\" - Dalai Lama The Moon is passing through the Sign of Sagittarius. This means that today you're beginning a new four-week energy cycle. It's time for your body, soul and mind to go through their monthly RECHARGING process. The little kid in you - the you who wants to feel enthusiastic and excited about something - will be trying hard to get your attention today. Listen to your FEELINGS. The way you relate with others reflects how you're relating to the little kid in yourself. If you don't feel very energetic today, it's because you're recharging. Go slow. Keep a low profile. Don't push yourself. You need the time and space it takes for your battery to recharge. You're due to feel the first burst of your new energy one week from now, on July 19."}, {"response": 622, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (17:41)", "body": "July 12, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're going to have to make a decision today about finances. Don't be influenced by others' thoughts. Take this new opportunity in front of you. It's going to be very rewarding to both your mind and your wallet. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The sun is shining on you and you're finally getting credit for what you've done. People are noticing your dedication to making sure the project is perfect. Accept compliments with grace - you deserve them! Call your family to tell them the happy news - they've been pulling for you all along. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra While you have an opportunity to enter in a new partnership, be cautious. Read the fine print of any agreement that is presented to you. If you still sign on the dotted line, at least you'll know exactly what you're getting yourself into. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Attention from a Libra today will surprise you. While you haven't been able to figure out whether your relationship is platonic or turning romantic, you'll get a clear sign today. Work on getting to know each other better, this could be a significant relationship in your life."}, {"response": 623, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (19:32)", "body": "what was supposed to happen today? somebody came by to install a security system into my home. was that it?"}, {"response": 624, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "Nuthin happened here that was not on my computer...."}, {"response": 625, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (21:52)", "body": "July 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) God gives you knowledge and he also gives the faithful their own measure of success in this physical world. Study the bible to find answers for your questions and you will be laying the found- ation for a better life filled with love and faith. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) If you are single, today you will find a new lover in your life and this is the one person you will grow to love and trust enough to tie the knot of matrimony with. If you are married then you and your spouse will experience a new closeness. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The inability to make up your mind today may work against you as a certain someone is getting tired of waiting for a positive move from you. If you get \"gunshy\" at this point in time you will miss out on a lot of love and happiness in your life. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Watch out for your will power today as you could wind up over- indulging in alcohol and get into some big trouble because of it. Avoid parties today and you will be able to control those urges. Help a friend paint his house today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This should be a day that will see you being lucky in love as the person of your dreams lets you know that the feeling is mutual. Today, work is promising good things for you in the way of raises or recognition. Friends are quick to offer help whether or not you even need it. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A tense day at home at home could be yours if you do not learn to give a little and compromise on the larger issues. Children may be more apt of getting into trouble but with love you guide them out of it. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) An opportunity for a new romance today but don't fall into the trap if you are married as it could be very bad for you. Your home based business takes a giant step forward as you add more facets to the jewel. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You may opt to let a relationship die today and go on looking for something more permanent in your life...let it go as friends. This will be a day filled with upsets on many fronts but if you are calm, and collected you will be able to weather the storms. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A child may have a slight injury today but don't worry, it will not be serious or disfiguring. An Angel on your shoulder today will keep you safe from harm as they will be sticking close at hand to protect you and yours. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) The firm where you have security or a new and upcoming enter- prise that you will be able to advance in quickly and get high- er pay at the get-go makes this the day you must choose. Don't let outsiders play a role in this. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your business sense is at an all time high today and under- handed people will find it hard to get over on you. You will find the major decisions going in your corner for a change. This is basically a good day for you and your finances. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today you exude confidence on the job and in your personal relationships with others. New Business ideas will be found when you finally learn to relax and just let the force flow through you. You are highly psychic and may not yet know it."}, {"response": 626, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (17:12)", "body": "what? and where was he? (gemini)"}, {"response": 627, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (19:08)", "body": "july 13 Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"You white people are so strange. We think it is very primitive for a child to have only two parents.\" Australian Aborigine Elder (The Moon is in Sagittarius. You're ending the first half of your 28-day energy cycle.) Today, let's catch up on what the planet Venus is doing in your horoscope. Venus symbolizes the 'magnetic,' pleasure-loving and profit-seeking side of your personality. The function of your Venus side is to attract to you whatever your heart desires. From June 16 till yesterday, July 12, Venus was passing through Cancer. Hey, that's your Sign. This means that, back then, your chances for attracting what you loved and desired were better than 50/50. The opposite will be true during July 13-August 5 while Venus passes through Leo. You won't have your edge. Luck will be less on your side. But, don't feel bad, Cancer! Your charm will return during August 6-30 when Venus passes through Virgo, an Earth Sign that helps Cancer get it together. Between now and August 5, don't waste your time, money, or energy on people or things that you really don't value. And, don't use or confuse money for love. Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"Eve was framed.\" Yesterday, you entered the third week of your 28-day energy cycle. The moon is in Sagittarius. Today, let's catch up on what Venus is up to in your horoscope. Venus symbolizes the \"magnetic\" side of your personality. It's your pleasure-loving and profit-seeking side. Whether you call it \"Lady Luck,\" your \"charisma\" or your \"wits,\" the function of your Venus side is to attract to you the things you love and desire. From June 16 'til yesterday, Venus was passing through Cancer, a sign that Geminis find it hard to get a laugh from. Back then, your charm wasn't working. Your timing was bad. Your chances for attracting what you wanted were less than 50/50. Your wait is over, Gemini. Today, your luck is due to change. From July 13 to August 5, you'll have your edge again. Venus will be passing through Leo. You'll regain your charm and wit. You'll get a better return on the song and dance routines you've got to go through to get you what you want. (Watchout world! Here I come again )"}, {"response": 628, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (19:22)", "body": "July 13, Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the accomplice of liars and forgers.\" - Charles Peguy Today, let's catch up on what Venus is doing in your horoscope. Venus symbolizes the \"magnetic\" side of your personality. It's your people-loving and pleasure-seeking side. Whether you call it your \"lady luck\" or \"charisma,\" the function of your Venus side is to attract the things you love and desire. From June 16 until yesterday, July 12, Venus was passing through Cancer, a Sign that is difficult for Sagittarians to understand. Back then, your charm wasn't working. Your chances for attracting what you wanted were less than 50/50. Today, however, your luck is due to change. From July 13 to August 5, you'll have your edge again. Venus will be passing through Leo. Your charm and wit are back. You'll get a better return on the time, money, and energy you spend to get you what you want. Try not to go overboard."}, {"response": 629, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (20:15)", "body": "oh boy!!!"}, {"response": 630, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (01:24)", "body": "June 14, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Ignore a 'good' deal that comes your way about today as it is not good and not for you. This is a good day to keep your head down and not take any chances with your finances. Try wearing some clear blues or greens to keep down your hot temper today. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A creative idea will get you off and running with the best idea you have ever had. Working out the details and the designs will get you well on your way to realizing your dream. Get as many people involved as you can, they will be a big help to you. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you will see things and situations going your way for a change. Your increase in personal magnetism will play a big role and it makes people want to be near you. Don't let all the attention go to your head because acting egotistical is the quickest way to turn them off. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A new love interest will enter your life at this time and you find this person extremely attractive. If you are married this could spell the end to your home and family if you pursue the opportunity; steer clear of this pitfall. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today you spend most of your time on your 'brain child' getting all the bugs and glitches ironed out; by days end you should have everything purring along. The family will understand your 'need for speed' and will give you all the space and privacy you require. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you find yourself as the 'fair haired child' and can do absolutely no wrong; you will appear to have the midas touch but don't let it make you over confident and reckless for there is where the losses could filter back in and your luck go out the window. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you can talk to an elderly relative to seek inner strength and self control. If not a relative, then seek counseling by a professional. Others will find this an uneventful day, but now and then we need the peace and quiet of an unexcited world to get our head on straight. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Work goes well for you today and you will soon see a raise in pay and position coming your way. If you have not replanted the house plants, this would be a good day to do this as you will have more luck with growing things than you normally do. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your work day should go smoothly with no big problems to plague you. You find inspiration in littlethings today and your whole attitude makes you a good friend and a joy to be around. Don't lose this attitude as those around you are in need of the balm of your personality. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You are more of the leader than the one you have been following and you should be aware that to keep it up could be detrimental to your health and freedom. This is a good day to make plans for the rest of your life. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today Your plans will be changed but you will find that you really are happy to go along with the others' plans instead. Just relax and roll with the flow. Play your cards right and loads of good things are yours today. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Be aware that a person you used to know has not changed so it is best if you keep your distance! Let others run interference for you as you make, and keep, several social engagements that will keep you seperated."}, {"response": 631, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (05:23)", "body": "(Oh dear, I'd better watch out. Stay offline or something ..... *grin*. Marcia, cover my back....need a minder)"}, {"response": 632, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (12:32)", "body": "Me? Cover yours? I thought you were going to keep ME out of trouble!!! July 14, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"The longest sentence known to man: 'I do.'\" You're currently in the third week of your energy cycle. Today, the moon is in Capricorn, a serious, work-oriented sign that is usually no fun for Gemini. When the moon passes through Capricorn each month, something comes over you. For some strange reason, you're drawn to intense, powerful people who have a strong effect on you. It may be only a momentary thing. Sometimes it will be more intense. Be aware that your emotional and sexual needs are demanding more attention than usual now. Financial issues also arise at this time. It's time to get your debts in order. Today is also a good time to work on self-healing efforts, whether your concern is physical, emotional, or spiritual. Have a healing experience! (Oh yes, strong and powerful men especially - mentally!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"I don't visit my parents often because Delta Airlines won't wait in the yard while I run in.\"-- Margaret Smith The Moon is passing through Capricorn, the Sign that is the opposite of Cancer. This means you've reached the halfway point in your monthly energy cycle. For the next two weeks, you'll be releasing the physical and emotional energy that started to build up inside you when your new cycle began two weeks ago. If things are going well for you now, great! You'll experience your burst of energy in good and positive ways. If you're not doing well now, don't make it worse by trying to force things to happen. Notice how you're tempted to project the cause of your frustration and unhappiness out onto people around you. Individuals with whom you are at odds now are mirroring back to you something you cannot see in yourself. What is it within yourself that you feel too afraid of or too guilty about to express openly and outwardly? During these next two weeks, follow up on and finish what you started two weeks ago. (Talk to me!) Virgo (Aug. 24-Sept. 22) Virgo Quote Of The Day: \"Service ... Giving what you don't have to give. Giving when you don't need to give. Giving because you want to give.\" - Damien Hess Today the Moon is passing through Capricorn, an Earth Sign that is very much like Virgo. Normally, this is a pleasant time for you. You're in the second week of the cycle you began on July 5. At this stage of your monthly cycle, the relationship between you and the little kid in you is usually pretty good. You're able to relate to people more easily now. You feel better about yourself than you were feeling three or four days ago. Your efforts to make things happen will meet with less resistance now. Obviously this is a good time for furthering your cause. Your relations with the opposite sex are better now. Your energy level is due to reach its peak in our or five days. Take advantage of every opportunity to create a peak experience for yourself. (for a very special man, all I can say is \"oh, yes!\") Capricorn (Dec. 22-Jan. 20) Capricorn Quote Of The Day: \"Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must set yourself on fire.\"--Reggie Leach The moon is passing through the sign of Capricorn. This means that today you're beginning a new 4-week energy cycle. It's time for your body, soul, and mind to go through their monthly RECHARGING process. The little kid in you--the 'you' who wants to be recognized and acknowledged--will be trying hard to get your attention today. Listen. The way you relate with others reflects how you're relating to the little kid in yourself. If you don't feel very energetic today, it's because you're recharging. Go slow. Keep a low profile. Don't push yourself. You need the time and space it takes for your battery to recharge. You're due to feel the first burst of your new energy one week from today. (for another special guy...) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly, science into superstition, and art into pedantry. Hence University education. - G.B. Shaw (You're still in the first week of your new energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Capricorn, a serious, work-oriented Sign with which Sagittarius is usually out of sync. When the Moon passes through Capricorn each month, pay serious attention to money concerns. Know where you stand with your monthly budget. Balance your checkbook. Pay your bills. Bring your accounts up to date. Put a lid on your spending. And, be alert to opportunities to pick up extra cash. (and for the resident Sagittarius...)"}, {"response": 633, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (17:30)", "body": "oh no, both my predictions came true (gemini). scary!"}, {"response": 634, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (17:49)", "body": "I got some serious work done today and piad some bills. Putting a lid on spending is hard but more necessary than ever with the focus on home fixup that I'm doing right now."}, {"response": 635, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (00:29)", "body": "July 15, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"A day without sunshine is like, well, night.\" You're in the third week of your 28-day energy cycle. Today, the moon is in the sign of Capricorn. Let's see what Mars is currently doing in your horoscope. Whether you're male or female, the planet Mars symbolizes the assertive, aggressive and \"masculine\" side of your personality. On the average, Mars passes through one sign of the zodiac every six weeks. During the six-week period of June 16-July 31, Mars will be passing through Cancer, a sign that does not harmonize well with Gemini. This means that between now and August 1, people won't be as willing to buy your act and do your bidding. Whatever you try to do between now and August 1 might require more courage, confidence, and motivation than you can muster. If you can't wait 'til August 1 to do your thing, Gemini, then do your best to put some class and style into your act. (*sigh* This is the first time I heard I did not get on with Cancers...) Capricorn (Dec. 22-Jan. 20) Capricorn Quote Of The Day: \"Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.\"--Thomas Edison Yesterday you started a new 28 day energy cycle, Capricorn. Today, the moon is still in Capricorn. Your recharging process is still going on. You'll feel a bit more confident about putting yourself forward today. You're due to feel more outgoing, more like being around people. It's a good time to think about revamping your wardrobe or doing something about your hair. Pay more attention to your general appearance and manners now. Dress in colors that make you feel energetic. Do whatever will help to enhance the impression you're trying to make. Private folks like Capricorns are more outgoing every month when the moon passes through their own sign. (if this is true, why did I not hear from him today???) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"We live in an age when pizza gets to your home before the police.\"-- Jeff Marder You've recently begun the third week of your energy cycle. Today, the Moon is in Capricorn, the Sign that is the equal and opposite of Cancer. It's your \"Shadow Sign.\" People you look to for a feeling of security or support are more important to you now than usual. This is the time for you to have a sharing experience to improve your personal connections. Today, pay special attention to your mate, partner or someone with whom you have a close intimate or business relationship. From your side of the relationship, do whatever you can to create a win-win situation for both of you. If you meet each other's emotional needs now, a new closeness may arise. Have a clearing session. Some unspoken conflicts may need airing. (wish it were last year.....) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself.\" - Sir Richard F. Burton (You're still in the first week of your 28-day energy cycle. Today, the Moon is in the Sign of Capricorn.) Sagittarians are supposed to be philosophical. Today's a good day to philosophize about your values. What do you value more than anything else? What is it that makes your life worth living? One thing that is extremely important for Sagittarians is to believe that life has a meaning and purpose. Today, be grateful for all the people in your life who make it possible for you to believe in yourself. Get religious about following your own bliss. There's a Full Moon tomorrow. Watch out for the \"loonies.\" Maybe Spring is just tired of me...."}, {"response": 636, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (00:31)", "body": "July 15, 2000 - for two special people: Libra (Sept. 23-Oct. 23) Libra Quote of the Day: \"One must marry one's feelings to one's beliefs and ideas. That is probably the only way to achieve a measure of harmony in one's life.\" Etty Hilsum (You've just begun the second week of your energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Capricorn, a serious, private Sign that conflicts with friendly sociable Libra. When the Moon passes through Capricorn each month, it would be good for you to pay more attention to your diet and to your living space. If you haven't been eating right lately, promise yourself today that you'll do better. Have you been neglecting your home or apartment? Put some energy into making your home a warm, nurturing, clean place to be. If you feel like it, do some re-decorating. Does your living space seem drab or boring? Rearrange your furniture. Do some serious cleaning. It's a good time of the month for you to renew family ties. Call home just to say \"Hi\" and \"How Are You?\" Fix your favorite meal and invite people you care about to come and share it with you. Virgo (Aug. 24-Sept. 22) Virgo Quote Of The Day: \"The service you do for others is the rent you pay for the time you spend on earth.\" - Mohammed Ali You're currently in the second week of your energy cycle. Today, the Moon is in Capricorn, a serious, hardworking Earth Sign, just like Virgo. Each month, when the Moon passes through Capricorn, it's time for you to let the little kid inside you out to play and have some fun. Today is Saturday, so take a break. Do something pleasurable, romantic or creative. Do something you really love to do. It's a good time to work up a sweat and give your heart some good exercise. Make it a point to schedule some time for your favorite leisurely activities or hobbies. Today, try not to get so wrapped up in your own feelings that you become unaware of the feelings of people around you."}, {"response": 637, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (14:26)", "body": "July 15, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): Your challenge is to develop and project confidence in order to generate confidence in you by others. You are not owed cooperation; people must be given reasons to depart from their intentions for you. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You're challenged to be generous without depleting your reserves. You're challenged to make improvements in your living space without spending everything. Be sure you have enough for an emergency. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your desire to get along with people needs to be balanced with good sense. Don't allow undesirable people to come in and ruin your day. Filter them out and seek the kind of people you want in your life. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Guard against intellectual arrogance today. You're certain you're right, but if so it ought to be easy to demonstrate it. Expect to have to debate your position, and avoid pushing your opinion through. LEO (July 23-August 22): Your challenge is finding the right balance of personal responsibility and delegation of respons- ibility. You'll most likely work out these issues successfully in your circle of good friends. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): You're in a position where com- plete honesty would be counter-productive. You're often at the dividing line between omitting information and lying. Be mind- ful of whether harm comes from what you'd say. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): This is an ideal day for reach- ing to people who share your spiritual interests. If you don't make this effort, less desirable people appear to fill the void in your relationships. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): You need to enhance your fin- ancial standing. A sound philosophy of money and knowledge of the laws of economics is your best guard against mistakes. Read the book \"The Richest Man in Babylon\" by Clason. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): This is a great day for learning how to look beyond your selfish interests and forge relationships based on shared ideals. You gain by working in concert with like-minded activists. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): Your relations with people today tend to be marred by dominance games. You should be seek- ing to help and serve instead of trying to manipulate or force people into doing what you want. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Your better nature shines out today. Your challenge is to assist without squelching initiative, to show a better way without making people feel inadequate. Your desire to build and improve is genuine. PISCES (February 19-March 20): Trying to improve your standing and importance results in unease among those around you. You're unhappy with your situation, but don't make people nervous in the process of getting ahead."}, {"response": 638, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (20:45)", "body": "gemini: this is so true. i've had to learn the hard way."}, {"response": 639, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (23:08)", "body": "Yup, Wolfie...took me longer than you...and I still have one - a really BIG one..."}, {"response": 640, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (14:11)", "body": "July 16, 2000 Virgo (Aug. 24-Sept. 22) Virgo Quote Of The Day: \"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying.\" - Woody Allen Currently, you're in the second week of your 28-day energy cycle. The Moon is full today, in the Sign of Capricorn. That's good for you, Virgo. Astrologically, the Sun is the symbol for your will power. It represents your ability to make things go your way. Every year, during June 21-July 21, the Sun passes through Cancer, a Water Sign that modulates well with Virgo, an Earth Sign. Water nurtures Earth. Generally, when the Sun passes through Cancer you're more in harmony with nature. You have a better sense of self-control. You have better than a 50/50 chance of things going your way. Of course, other things in your horoscope could counter-indicate this in your case. If, however, past experience shows that June 21-July 21 is usually a good time for you, plan accordingly each year. Do things you enjoy. You lose your winning edge when the Sun passes through Leo (July 22-August 21). Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"Human beings are the only creatures that allow their children to come back home.\"--Bill Cosby You're now in the third week of your 28-day energy cycle. The Moon is full today, in the Sign of Capricorn. Watch out for the loonies! Whether you're male or female, the planet Mars symbolizes the assertive, aggressive and 'masculine' side of your personality. On the average, Mars passes through one Sign of the Zodiac every six weeks. During the six-week period of June 16-July 31, Mars will be passing through your Sign of Cancer. This means that your overall sense of courage, confidence and motivation are due to be stronger than usual during that period. If you've been wanting to do something to improve your self esteem, or that requires a lot of will power or physical energy, try to do it before August 1. Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.\" The moon is full today, in the sign of Capricorn. Watch out for \"loonies\"! Gemini, your current energy cycle peaked two days ago. The wave of energy you experienced then has still not subsided. Today, during the full moon, your emotions will be more intense than usual. You can tell by the way people react to you. You may be drawn to certain types of people you normally wouldn't approach. You're experiencing feelings and moods very differently from your normal self. What was going on with you two days ago? Are you just now feeling what was too deep or strong for you to feel back then? If you're feeling strange or confused, talk to a close friend or anybody you can totally trust. Get it off your chest! Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"I am determined that my children shall be brought up in their father's religion, if they can find out what it is.\" - Charles Lamb (You're currently in the first week of your 28-day energy cycle. Today, the Moon is FULL in the Sign of Capricorn.) Sagittarius, each Sign of the Zodiac receives both a gift and a challenge from the Sign that follows it. Sagittarius is followed by Capricorn (12/22-1/20). The Capricorns in your life teach you the value of self-discipline and self-reliance. They challenge you to put your money where your mouth is. Today, while the Moon is FULL, be grateful for everyone in your life who has helped you overcome your limitations. Capricorn (Dec. 22-Jan. 20) Capricorn Quote Of The Day: \"There is only one success--to be able to spend your life in your own way.\"--Christopher Morley Today the Moon is FULL and in your sign, Capricorn. It's a good day to get your house in order. Whether you're male or female, the planet MARS symbolizes the assertive, aggressive and \"masculine\" side of your personality. On the average, Mars passes through one sign of the zodiac every SIX weeks. During the six-week period of June 16-July 31, Mars will be passing through Cancer, the sign that is the equal and opposite of Capricorn. This means that your overall sense of courage, confidence and motivation are due to be stronger than usual during this period. If you've been wanting to do something that requires a lot of will power or physical energy, try to do it before August 1. Today, during the full moon, do something you've been putting off for far too long."}, {"response": 641, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (14:57)", "body": "July 16, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Don't you hate it when someone drops the ball? You're going to have to go back to the drawing board and figure out Plan B. You might have to reschedule a meeting but that's okay, it's been too hectic of a day and everyone needs a rest. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The end of this chapter in your life will bring a sense of balance to you now. Even though you are frustrated that the new opportunity in your life hasn't started yet, there are those working for you \"behind the scenes\" to make sure you are on your way down a new path. Be patient, your friends are trying to coordinate to your benefit. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're still trying to figure out what your role is in your current job. As frustrating as this may be, you can't work out all your requirements in one day. Take the opportunity to unwind with friends. You can't tie up all loose ends today so leave it at the office and treat yourself to a night out on the town. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Even in chaos, you have everything under control. There is a change in your work environment but it will work out okay. While things may seem to be unsure right now, keep you cool and ride the wave. The storm will calm eventually."}, {"response": 642, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (18:58)", "body": "gemini: boy do i know what was going on two days ago!"}, {"response": 643, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "*grin* ...so do I..."}, {"response": 644, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (00:52)", "body": "July 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Using your natural abilities to think in depth will help you in your negotiations early today. Unexpected surprises from the strangest sources could be yours so don't be surprised at anything. Being a progressive thinker serves you well all day in business. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Smile today even if your heart is not in it! Sometimes we can even fool ourselves just long enough to get over a situation involving wounded pride before we know it has happened. Children are outstanding today and you are so proud of them you throw a small celebration in their honor. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Today is a busy day for you as you can barely catch your breath between jobs. Don't let yourself get overtired, take a break even if you must insist on it. Domestic problems may be over tonight as the light suddenly dawns and you come up with an inspired compromise. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today is exceptionally good for everything connected with your job interests, everything from finding a new job to obtaining a higher position where you are. Be especiall7y careful that you do not let a coworker draw you into a personal quarrel, the middle is not the place you want to be, anytime. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone will find it next to impossible to get something over on you today as you have the ability that your insights gives you to see right to the heart of the matter and the motivation behind it. Trust your instincts today, they are right on track. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is a very important day for you regarding career interests and metal pursuits. Your ideas are clicking today and it seems you can do no wrong! Enjoy yourself as days like this are few and far between for everyone. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) A particularly ticklish family matter may be upsetting you and you almost let it interfere with your work. Luckily you catch your attitude in time and change it. Best to keep smiling until you finish out the day, then you can give your problem mental house room. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) In financial dealings today you are a shrewd thinker and you are one step ahead all the way in the negotiations. A major move may be on your mind today and there is not enough hours in the day to take care of everything yourself; why not dele- gate the jobs? SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Today you get a wake up call when someone you care about accuses you of trying to manipulate them. After thinking it over you find that you were indeed trying to do this but only for this persons own good. Don't forget that we all must make our own mis- takes and learn by them. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) An old song you hear may bring back some bittersweet memories but you should not dwell on them and become depressed, as this is old news and it is the future that you are moving into with your new love beside you. Be sure to leave out the emotional baggage around your new love. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Shopping for that new computer will be a lot of fun for you today as you get to see all the new innovations since you last purchased one. Some of you may find a very good buy on the remanufactured ones offered by a lot of computer stores. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Party plans with friends and loved ones are happily accented today and you spend most of the day in feverish preparation, something you enjoy doing. The children are overdue for a visit to Grandmas house and this would be a perfect time for that overnight stay."}, {"response": 645, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (23:04)", "body": "July 18, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) (Apr. 20- may 20) Behind the scenes developments work for you for a change to help you advance in your career. The time you devote to an unfinished project will be time well spent as this could mean a source of extra income for you. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Your devil may care grin and easy manner will endear people to you todays a you spread a little sunshine around your acquain- tances. Gadding about can and is a lot of fun but don't let your work suffer as a consequence. Take the family out for fish and chips tonight. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Interaction between your at home enterprise and your at work job will naturally come about as a consequence of thing you must do to one that corresponds to the other. Your house may be on the market and if so, you should meet with a serious buyer and get the binder. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This would be a good time to enlist the services of an agent but be sure you have checked this firm or person out thoroughly before signing anything at all. Domestic tranquility reigns supreme throughout the day and night. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) You and the spouse may spend the day working on your vacation plans and having fun doing it. Watch out that you do not try to turn it into a 'busmans holiday' and take your work with you, this would not sit well with the family and you would miss out on creating good memories. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Business interests look so good today that your goals are so close that you can almost reach out and grab them. Company that drops by in the evening is more than welcome as you decide to make a small party out of it and everyone enjoys themselves. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your creative work is right on the money today but you should avoid any extra spending for electronics that you can live without at this point in time. It is also a great day to go out and enjoy some pleasurable pursuits with the family. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Brainstorming today could bring you so very good moneymaking ideas. Moneymaking ideas are really worthless if you never use them so consider putting at least one to good use. This is an excellent day to shop for computers or other electronics. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Higher learning captures your attention today as your ambitions are bigger than your skills, and since you realize this you go all out to locate the right course of study for you. Today, you can charm the birds right out of the trees so be careful how you use this gift. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Talking with higher ups and peers today show you the path to greatness, at least the road to success. Following advice you gleaned today you determined to put it to good use on your behalf. Love is a possibility for today. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Getting together with friends is highly favored today but don't use this as an excuse to show off a new purchase or brag about new clothes, you don't have to say anything, they will notice. Try not to get into confrontations today."}, {"response": 646, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (23:05)", "body": "July 18, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A Gemini from your past is going to come back into your life. While you might be wary of her motives, she just wants to put some closure on a problem you never resolved. Take it for what it's worth and don't try to rekindle the relationship - you've grown out of it. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A letter from a Capricorn will bring you good news. Even though you haven't always gotten along with this person, he realizes your great organizational skills and will present you with a new opportunity that will challenge your skills. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Partnerships will be difficult today. Your ideas don't seem to be communicated clearly and there is a lot of onfusion about your position. You may not win the battle but you've laid the groundwork for the war. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces The dust has settled and you're still rattled. Unwind tonight - listen to some calming music. You need to put this situation in the past. You've handled yourself well and you'll be recognized for your poise in this situation."}, {"response": 647, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (23:12)", "body": "July 17, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.\" You're currently in the third week of your 28-day energy cycle. Today the moon is passing through Aquarius, a friendly sign, just like Gemini. Your energy was at high tide 4-5 days ago. It's time for you to take a breather. In general, it will be easier for you to relate to people now. It won't require as much energy to get things done. This is a good time to act in your own best interests. Your thinking and your feeling sides are in closer harmony now. Your final burst of energy in this current cycle takes place when you enter week four in two days. Do everything you can to see to it that you start the last week of your cycle with a bang instead of a whimper. (this was one remarkable day from one end to the other and did I ever relate!) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"Mid pleasures and palaces though we may roam, Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home.\"-- John Howard Payne You're currently in the third week of your energy cycle. Today, the Moon is in Aquarius, an unconventional, 'modern' or progressive Sign that is usually difficult for Cancer to handle. When the Moon passes through Aquarius each month, something comes over you. For some strange reason, you're drawn to intense, powerful people who have a strong effect on you. It may be only a momentary thing. Sometimes it will be more intense. Be aware that your emotional and sexual needs are demanding more attention than usual now. Financial issues also arise at this time. It's time to get your debts in order. Today is also a good time to work on self-healing efforts, whether your concern is physical, emotional, or spiritual. Have a healing experience! (Wish I could help...) Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"I won't take my religion from any man who never works except with his mouth.\" - Carl Sandburg The Moon is passing through Aquarius, a Sign that is congenial with Sagittarius. This means that today it will be easier for you to be \"in the zone\" as you do your work and deal with others. You're still in the first week of your new energy cycle. Tell yourself what you want to accomplish between now and August 8. Your energy is still building. Get ready for the first burst of your new energy two days from now, on July 19. Do something constructive today. Take advantage of any opportunity that's staring you in the face. In general, the Stars are right for things to go your way today. Leo (July 23-Aug. 23) Leo Quote of the Day: \"Whatever you are, be a good one.\" - Abraham Lincoln (Tomorrow, your wave of energy is due to be at high tide. Today the Moon is FULL, in the Sign of Capricorn. Today and tomorrow are pretty emotional times for you!) Whether you're male or female, the planet MARS symbolizes the assertive, \"masculine\" side of your personality. Mars passes through one Sign of the Zodiac every SIX weeks. During June 16-July 31, Mars will be passing through Cancer: a Water Sign that does not harmonize well with Fire Sign Leo. Between now and August 1, people won't be as willing to buy your act and do your bidding. Don't push the river! When Mars enters Leo on August 1, the ball will be back in your court. Until then, facing challenges and doing the tough stuff will require more courage, confidence and motivation than you can muster. If you can't wait until August 1 to do your thing, Leo, then do your best to put some class and style into your act."}, {"response": 648, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jul 18, 2000 (01:51)", "body": "(that was WIERDLY accurate - thanks for being there...)"}, {"response": 649, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 18, 2000 (20:14)", "body": "July 18, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day--\"Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?\" Currently, you're still in the third week of your energy cycle. Today, the moon is in Aquarius, a mental, friendly air sign, just like Gemini. It's time for a reality check. Are you bored? Do you know where your life is headed? Did you look forward to coming to work today? Today's the day to get away from the ordinary. Do something unusual today. Take a short trip. Read a book, attend a lecture, see a movie, or watch a TV documentary that gives you a new perspective on current concerns. Be with people who encourage and inspire you. Take time out today to ask yourself: \"What is the meaning and purpose of my life?\" Believe in yourself. (That is why I was online all day...) Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"The happiest moments of my life have been the few which I have passed at home in the bosom of my family.\"-- Thomas Jefferson The Moon is in Aquarius today. Cancer, your current 28-day energy cycle reached its peak intensity a few days ago (July 14 --15). Don't be surprised if you're having some strong feelings today about sex, money, or joint possessions. You're in a space where you're sensitive about getting or protecting what you feel is rightfully yours. These may be old feelings you haven't yet resolved or feelings about events that occurred only recently. In any case, they're your feelings. If you're feeling envy, resentment or jealousy, write the offending party a letter. Say exactly what you feel and think, then burn it and flush the ashes down the sink. It's not a question of getting even. This is about your self-worth! (Uncanny, huh?!) Leo (July 23-Aug. 23) Leo Quote of the Day: \"It's never too late to have a happy childhood.\" - Anonymous (You've recently begun the third week of your energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Aquarius, the Sign that is the equal and opposite of Leo. It's your \"Shadow Sign.\" People you look to for a feeling of security or support are more important to you now than usual. This is the time for you to deal with your freedom vs. closeness dilemma. You're due to have some sharing experiences. Let's hope they help to put more fun and life in your close, personal relationships. Today, pay special attention to your mate, partner, or someone with whom you have a close intimate or business relationship. From your side of the relationship, do whatever you can to create a win-win situation for both of you. If you meet each other's emotional needs now, a new closeness may arise. Have a clearing session. Some unspoken conflicts may need airing. (Oh heavens....I know a Leo - unmarried - oh my...) Capricorn (Dec. 22-Jan. 20) Capricorn Quote Of The Day: \"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm.\"--Winston Churchill You're still in the first week of your current 28-day energy cycle, Capricorn. Today, the moon is in the sign of Aquarius. Capricorn, today's a good day to reflect on your hopes, dreams, and wishes. What kind of a future do you envision for yourself? What do you value? What makes your life worth living? One thing that is extremely important for all Capricorns is to have a sense of accomplishment. Today, be grateful for all the people in your life who have helped you overcome your limits. Promise yourself that you'll keep on keeping on 'til you reach the top of your mountain. Remember, climbing a mountain is tough, but when you reach the top, the view is great. (Oh my...one of these too.......sigh) Virgo (Aug. 24-Sept. 22) Virgo Quote Of The Day: \"The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and doesn't stop until you get to the office.\" - Robert FrostM Today the Moon is passing through Aquarius. Whether you're male or female, the planet Mars symbolizes the assertive, aggressive and \"masculine\" side of your personality. On the average, Mars passes through one Sign of the Zodiac every six weeks. During the six-week period of June 16-July 31, Mars will be passing through Cancer, a Water Sign that harmonizes well with Virgo, an Earth Sign . This means that your overall sense of courage, confidence and motivation are due to be stronger than usual during that six-week period. If you've wanted to do something that requires a lot of willpower or physical energy, try to do it before August 1. (and especially one of these. YESSSS!)"}, {"response": 650, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 18, 2000 (20:15)", "body": "for Terry and all those other early December babies: Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"Science may have found a cure for most evils; but is has found no remedy for the worst of them all - the apathy of human beings.\" - Helen Keller (You're currently ending the first week of your energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Aquarius, a friendly, definitely different Sign that's usually sympatico with Sagittarius. When the Moon passes through Aquarius each month, it's usually a busy time for you. Generally, it's a good time for making connections and catching up on your communications. Be sure to check your e-mail and phone calls. It's a time for giving or attending talks, presentations, etc. Today's a good day to get in touch with your relatives or neighbors and catch up on the gossip."}, {"response": 651, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 18, 2000 (23:13)", "body": "July 19, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Keep the lid on your emotions today as a bad attitude could lose a lot for you that you don't want lost. Stay out of other peoples fights even if you do feel like standing up for the underdog. On the plus side, the day could be very lucky for you financially. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Being skeptical of rumors is usually a good thing but today you may find that this one carries more truth than you are prepared for. This is a good day to visit the ill, take the family pet to the vet, and even start your christmas savings account, if you haven't already. , GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You may find that after thinking things over, you are in total agreement with the ideas of a working partner. Domestic affairs may be a trifle unsettled today but nothing too world shaking. Mainly, you should pay attention when someone is talking to you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You could have a problem communicating with key people today and that will tend to slow down your projects and productivity. Later in the day you finally gain access to the right people and get your immediate goals accomplished. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Don't let things slide today, either at home or at work as to do so will only make work for you later when you have even less time to get it finished. Others will feel a tendency to just chuck everything and go fishing, don't succumb to the temptation. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Take no risks today with your financial worth, there is a good chance of loss if you make a bad decision, and the good one will be awful hard to discern. Wait until another day to handle these affairs, even if you must put someone off in the process. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Be careful if you order something expensive from a mail order catalog, check out the company if it is not well known or you could wind up losing your money or getting an inferior product, especially electronics. Romance reigns today. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Talk with people today that are in the type of business that you are thinking about getting into; you could pick up more real information that way than you will ever find in how to books. Check out financial arrangements that you have in the works. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) There are deceptive trends in the air today so be careful of money and financial arrangements that you are making. Do not take any unnecessary risks, such as gambling or unsecured loans to others. Stay cool in the area of romance, keep the commitments for another time. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Researchers will find that the extra knowledge they glean today will help them immensely and facilitate a quick breakthrough in their projects. Others will find that avoiding moneymaking schemes and keeping their feet on the ground will be beneficial to them. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Delays, mixups, and misunderstandings will be the norm at work today but you manage to get through it unscathed. Take the evening to relax and have some fun with friends or family while you quiet your nerves for another go at it tomorrow. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Out of town invitations leave you cold today as you still have not forgiven the person who is asking. Unforgiveness will damage everything from your subconscious to your long term health, now isn't that a good enough reason to let go of your anger at this person by forgiving them?"}, {"response": 652, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 18, 2000 (23:40)", "body": "July 19, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn All that spending you've been doing lately is going to come back to haunt you. Balance your checkbook so you won't go into the negative. Buckle down for a while so you can save up some cash for a wise investment opportunity coming your way. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Why are you agonizing over the future at your job? While you have no control over this, you're still upset over what could be. Keep focused on your work. This would be a good time to present any cost saving or time saving systems you have thought about. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra An idea you may not want to happen is about to be set into motion. There's nothing you can do to change this. Have you been talking to your spirit guides about this? You need to take the high road here or you're going to look like you're being petty. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today is a great day for meetings. Your negotiating skills are right on so get those important people together today. Make sure to have all the documents you need to back up your statements and this will get done a lot quicker."}, {"response": 653, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (00:54)", "body": "July 19, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Very Deep Thought of the Day--\"I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?\" The moon is passing through Pisces, a sign that is very confusing for Geminis. You're in the fourth and final week of the energy cycle you started back on June 29. You've reached your last turning point of this cycle. You're due to experience one last burst of the physical and emotional energy you've been releasing for the past week. Your goal or intention for your current energy cycle is now going through its final test. If things are going your way today, you'll be free to experience your burst of physical and emotional energy any way you please. If things aren't going your way, don't be hard on yourself. Ask the little kid in you for forgiveness if you haven't been a good parent lately. Don't give up on yourself. Leo (July 23-Aug. 23) Leo Quote of the Day: \"No one can build his security upon the nobleness of another person.\" - Willa Cather (You're currently in the third week of your energy cycle.) Today, the Moon is in Pisces, a very sensitive, introverted Sign that is usually difficult for Leo to handle. When the Moon passes through Pisces, something comes over you. For some strange reason, you're drawn to intense, powerful people who have a strong emotional effect on you. It may be only a momentary thing. Sometimes it will be more intense. Be aware that your four A's - your needs for Attention, Acceptance, Approval, and Affection - are very strong now. Financial issues also arise at this time. It's time to get your debts in order. Today is also a good time to work on self-healing efforts, whether your concern is physical, emotional, or spiritual. Have a healing experience! Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"A person travels the world over in search of what he needs and returns home to find it.\"-- George Moore Today the Moon is passing through Pisces, a sensitive Water Sign just like Cancer. You're in the third week of your current energy cycle. Your energy was at high tide four to five days ago. It's time for you to take a breather. In general, it will be easier for you to relate to people now. It won't require as much energy to get things done. This is a good time to act in your own best interests. Your thinking and your feeling sides are in closer harmony now. Your final burst of energy in this current cycle takes place when you enter the fourth week two days from now on July 22. Do everything you can to see to it that you start the last week of your cycle with a bang instead of a whimper. Capricorn (Dec. 22-Jan. 20) Capricorn Quote Of The Day: \"Real success is finding your lifework in the work that you love.\"--David McCullough The moon is passing through Pisces, a sign that is congenial with Capricorn. This means that today it will be easier for you to be \"in the zone\" as you do your work and deal with others. You're still in the first week of your new energy cycle. Tell yourself what you want to accomplish between now and August 10. Your energy is still building. Get ready for the first burst of your new energy three days from now (July 22). Do something constructive today. Take advantage of any opportunity that's staring you in the face. In general, the stars are right for things to go your way today. Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: \"The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.\" - Thomas Paine The Moon is passing through Pisces, a Sign that is NOT in harmony with Sagittarius. You've reached the first Turning Point in the new energy cycle you started one week ago. You're feeling the first burst of the physical and emotional energy that's been building up since your new cycle began. If everything's going fine in your life now, you'll feel free to use your bursts of physical, emotional, and mental energy any way you want. If you feel that things aren't going your way today, it's time to reinforce your intention. What do you want to happen during this energy cycle? Renew your WILL to DO what's good for you. Take time to deal with the little problems that come up now. Don't give up. Virgo (Aug. 24-Sept. 22) Virgo Quote Of The Day: \"The human race is faced with a cruel choice: work or daytime television.\" - Unknown The Moon is passing through Pisces, the Sign that is the opposite of Virgo. This means that you've reached the halfway point in your monthly energy cycle. For the next two weeks, you'll be releasing the physical and emotional energy that started to build up inside you when your new cycle began two weeks ago. If things are going well for you now, great! You'll experience your burst of energy in good and positive ways. If you're not doing well now, you'll be tempted to project the cause of your frustration and unhappiness out onto people around you. Individuals with whom you are at odds now are mirroring back to you something you cannot or will not see in yourself. During thes"}, {"response": 654, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (12:08)", "body": "It always seems like there's a \"new energy cycle\"; what's up with this?"}, {"response": 655, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (17:02)", "body": "i am having an \"up\" week. so up that i'm afraid to fall down. (gemini)"}, {"response": 656, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (17:31)", "body": "Nope, no Gemini going earthward until after the first of August. I'll be airborne, remember?!"}, {"response": 657, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "July 20, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn While you feel like you're making a foolish decision about an important relationship - it's okay! Be impulsive - you'll find that being silly for a while will be good for you because things have been humdrum for a while. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A lunch meeting will prove to be not only fun but a great idea generator. Traveling to gather more information is in your future. Pack your bathing suit - you're going to travel to a warm climate soon! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Everything seems to be \"clicking\" today - you haven't hit a red light all day! Make sure to return phone messages today because you need to provide some information to complete an important matter. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Following your spiritual path may upset others but do what's best for you. It's just because they don't understand everything about it so keep your cool while you explain new things to them. The angels will help guide your conversations."}, {"response": 658, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (21:42)", "body": "July 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your charm is enhanced today and you will be able to make a great impression on those who are important to you in your line of work. Accept your compliments with a quiet, self confident demeanor which is so much more impressive than denying your worth in a,\"oh, it was nothing\", sort of way. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Today stick to conventionalities in business, don't rock the boat with any new age ideas that may not sit too well with higher ups. You should get some positive results on a pending lawsuit, in fact it may be settled without going to court. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Your devil may care manner and smiling disposition will wind up captivating the opposite sex today and you can have your pick of the crowd; don't use this as an excuse to hurt someone close to you, after all, this may be the only person who will still be beside you when this phase wears off. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Be aggressive today when the opportunity arises for you to go after what you really want, Your chances of doing and saying just the right thing are extra good. Keep your eyes open as you could potentially meet the right person to share your life with. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Leo, an old lover is waiting in the wings and he/she wants to make up and try again. This may not be as good underneath as it sounds on the surface, as this person has not changed and may never change; taking a chance now could be risky business. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is the day to deal with bankers, insurance companies and various agencies dealing with your finances. Take advantage of the lucky star you are under and push for the terms, etc., that you want, today you are apt to get them. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Disappointments in a change of plans threatens your day and your peace of mind with anger and resentments, don't worry, you will soon see that all changes are not bad and these you are really going to enjoy. Good news after dark makes your day complete. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Progress at work marks this day with approval from your boss and your peers. Extra effort on your part could get a partner- ship matter settled on the home front and you and the spouse enjoy an evening out with friends at your local haunts. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Progress on the job is iffy at best today as you find yourself hampered with delays and disappointments in your work force. Interruptions at work may be your biggest hindrance to accom- plishment; a ray of sunshine in the afternoon as a good opportunity comes your way. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Curb your extravagant impulses today as you find yourself on the paying end of socializing with friends and buddies, don't let anyone get you so carried away that you get careless; remember to keep a designated driver with you and take only the amount of money you wish to spend. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Electric appliances go on the fritz today and just about everything that can go wrong does! Murphy's law is in effect today in a very strong way. Nothing too serious, but enough piddling things to keep you gritting your teeth. Evening finds things calming down. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) It is a great day for romance and a lousy day for business so if it were me, I would take the day off to pursue the first! Matters of the heart will be resolved today, and you may find yourself ready to walk down the aisle as soon as the invitations go out."}, {"response": 659, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (22:18)", "body": "Oh Wolfie, did you see that?! That is my last horoscope posting till I get home again."}, {"response": 660, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 19, 2000 (22:21)", "body": "Like this one better: Horoscopes - Gemini You may have a secret you're anxious to share. It may relate to new creative projects or simply be that you're in love. Keep things quiet for a while longer. You'll be ready for a new level of commitment with a partner or mate after August 20. You may even be ready to tackle more dynamic work projects then. Love and romance seem to light a fire that burns brightly in all areas of your life. ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ __"}, {"response": 661, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 20, 2000 (19:54)", "body": "i have to wait til august 20??"}, {"response": 662, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 20, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "or can post the ones from http://www.astrofish.com which is where some of mine came from."}, {"response": 663, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 20, 2000 (22:35)", "body": "Hmmmmmmm that link does not work......"}, {"response": 664, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 20, 2000 (22:38)", "body": "http://www.astrology-online.com/daily.htm then you can subscribe or just copy them. Thanks Wolfie"}, {"response": 665, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 20, 2000 (22:39)", "body": "July 21, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) (Apr. 20- may 20) This is a better day than you have had in a long time for furthering your career interests; A friend will offer you some valuable information about business that is right on track for you. Romance, or a closer tie with your spouse is likely tonight. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Planning your marriage gives you that extra incentive you have today for getting ahead on your job, seize the opportunity when it presents itself. Things should come together nicely for you today in all your dealings. You and the loved one clicks on the same vibe rate. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) A company planned get together at a picnic with the employees allows you to meet coworkers from other departments that help you better understand your role in the scheme of things. A trip coming up this weekend must be prepared for today, leave nothing to chance. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) A day of mixing your business with pleasure works out well for you, careerwise. Take nothing for granted today and be truthful in all your answers. If you tell a tall tale today it will come back to haunt you in the worse way at the worst possible time. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Inspiration is your companion today both at home and at work. Redecorating the house comes easy for you as the ideas just keep flowing. Likewise at work you will see an increase in productivity and prestige as you exceed your former limits. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) You will be happily planning your recreational activities for the coming weekend but, be sure you do not let your attention slide at work as those plans could be ruined in an instant if an accident should occur due to inattention. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) This is an excellent day to replenish the wardrobe and do some shopping for the home. Although bargains are out there you will have to hunt for them to find what you want at a good price. An evening out on the town gives you the chance to show off the new clothes. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Doors that have been shut for you before you completed your studies are now opening for you and you find yourself much nearer the dream than you thought you would ever be; all things are possible if you try. A great bathing suit will look better on a great body! Take your exercise. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) You should take the initiative now in contacting someone at a distance, speak your mind, you have a lot to say and it needs saying. A weekend getaway is always a welcome diversion, why not try the mountains for that fabulous air. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You are very efficient but today there is the chance that you may let daydreaming spoil your workday and get you in trouble with the boss. Save the daydreams for evening or weekends, not work. Leave nothing to chance today, get all the facts well in hand. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) A friend steers you in the right direction today and you wind up with a better job than you could have wished for. Be sure to express your appreciation to this person by inviting him/her over for dinner. Your romantic interest may be less than truthful; sort fact from fiction. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Try to overcome the tendency to rush things through to the finish today as you will wind up with a product or service that is not worthwhile. If you must put something off today be sure it is something personal and not work related."}, {"response": 666, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 20, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "Geez, how did they know we had a trip this weekend???"}, {"response": 667, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jul 23, 2000 (11:03)", "body": "No mountains this weekend, they're a long way from the hills of Central Texas."}, {"response": 668, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 23, 2000 (12:40)", "body": "uh oh, i think i was supposed to be doing the horroscopes (misspelled on purpose). let me find that link and get us back up to speed!"}, {"response": 669, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 23, 2000 (12:43)", "body": "July 23, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Being acquainted with ungrateful people is bad enough but when it is a close member of your family it makes your heart ache, the more you do for a certain person the less it is appreciated; resolve now to quit, just back off and let God handle the situation. TAURUS (Apr. 20- May 20) Even though you find todays socializing enjoyable, you feel that you need some quiet time to yourself and finally slip away just to think a few things through. Evening church services may be better for you than the morning ones so why not plan to go. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Surprises are in the air for you today and they are the romantic kind. Church services may allow you to see someone you know in a whole different light and find that you have indeed judged this person wrong by listening to rumors. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) A job that you volunteered for may turn out to be harder than you had anticipated but you manage to get it done on time. An evening romantic interlude may bring you more happiness than you could hope for, or ever expect to find. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone needs to know that you care and appreciate all they have done for you, no big speeches, just a lot of \"honey I love you\" as often as possible. Take the family to a nice restaurant after church and forget the hot stove routine. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Some business tips may come over the air for you today and at least one could have a bearing on a problem that you have been wrestling with. A prayer meeting after church has your house full already so why not have a late afternoon bar-b-que. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) The siren song of far away places may be calling to you but try to keep that daydreaming wanderlust under control as you may make a false start and lose all you have worked for here, on the home front. Try to find a permanent position here as the family will not agree to pull up atakes. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Someone was going to sell you an item that you were really anxious to have but the deal falls through when they decide not to sell. Don't be too disappointed as you will soon find the same thing at a cheaper price that you will be able to obtain. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) A spur of the moment trip or activity turns out to be more than enjoyable, the benefits to you will not become apparent until later next month. Remember to take along the family as they will be a big part of it. Others will find this a relaxing day at home. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) You may have trouble getting yourself understood today and this is no fault of your own, just a breakdown in communication, it will soon pass and the two of you will be sharing the same vibes. A wonderful gift is given you today and you pledge to always love and care for it and the giver. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Deciding on big jobs and the payouts for the same should be a joint decision, one partner, you, should not shoulder the whole responsibility in case something goes wrong. This is a good day to spend lazing around with the family in the back yard, recovering your energies. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Be prepared for a surprise today in the romance department when your love pops the big question. You should spend some time in church today as you reaffirm your faith and build your spirituality; do a friend a favor and take that person with you to church."}, {"response": 670, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jul 24, 2000 (19:33)", "body": "July 24 2000 (sorry about posting at the end of the day but what better way to learn if these actually are accurate?) ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Too many demands on your time could cause you a touch of anger, but simmer down, tomorrow is not that far away. Your co-workers could be out of sorts so it will fall to you to de-fuse any situation that arises. Loved ones keep their distance today but you soon overcome that. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Your planning abilities are extra high today so get them down on paper as quick as possible. Pay closer attention to children and loved ones. A spouse could be feeling neglected right about now so why not use your inspirations to come up with some exciting evening activities. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Try to draw as many influential people as you can into your plans . Believability runs high today. More people believe in your follow through ability today. Children and family play a big part in your success. You could be pleasantly surprised today. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) Work should be routine for you today but remember to be careful for yourself and co-workers. Children also take up a lot of time with school problems. You never put them off and they love you for being there for them. a mate may also be facing problems in the work-place and could benefit from quiet assurances. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Curb your ways and manner and you will get along well today. Loosen up and let people \"in\", you will find it a nice change. you may be offered a good deal on a car or other major purchase. Investigate and if alls well; grab it. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Everything is going smooth for you today. Take care of business and try not to get behind in your work as no problems can foster complacency as that leads to failure. You have a good head on your shoulders so I know you wont be caught in that trap. Love is still in bloom for single Virgos. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Listen to those around you. People close to you are trying to get through to you but you are too caught up in your worries. Take inventory of your values and priorities, set self interest aside and focus on those who need you. This could be a rewarding day for you, SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Scorpios wandering eye could cause a lot of trouble and heartbreak and could cost you a much loved spouse or friend. Do not be beguiled by someone who only wants to toy with your affections and ruin your life. Exercise your self control to get through this trying time SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Today is best spent in quiet meditation and peaceful surroundings. Do not get caught up in a lot of hub bub. Just relax and enjoy a day with good friends or your spouse, at the beach or back yard swimming pool. Everyone benefits from this kind of day. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Finish what you started and be ready for some fun times this afternoon. Get together and go fishing with some real good friends. Leave the family home for today as everyone can benefit from a little apartness so they can get their own spiritual houses in order. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) This is a day for taking care of family business. Finalizing plans for getting a home or some other major purchase. Don't be hasty and overlook a few points that could save you lots of money. Dicker down on price if there is still time to do so. Be sure your spouse is in on these considerations. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) It is time to get back into shape after indiscriminate eating and watching the tube. Bathing suits are tinier than ever ( both men and women) and you want to look your best where ever you are. Look around for a good spa and dig into some health food books."}, {"response": 671, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jul 25, 2000 (12:52)", "body": "(Hugs Wolfie!)"}, {"response": 672, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jul 25, 2000 (17:17)", "body": "July 25, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You may meet with one aggravating situation after another today but nothing will be able to shake that good feeling you woke up with this morning. News in the evening gives you a wonderful cause to have that good feeling. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Efficiency is your middle name today where your job is concerned. You make a lot of headway in the kudos department and wind up a big hit with the boss, careful, you could get a raise out of all this. Stay out of disputes with friends in the evening. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Business affairs are good today as you do some fancy negotiations and get that funding you have been angling for all along. Don't get into any family confrontations today as it could turn into a week long running battle, just smile and go on. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) You may be in the market to purchase some books for your home library and a good idea would be to check out your local library to see what they may have to offer, identical copies of books that are donated to them are sometimes sold to the public; you could get a good deal. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A seminar that interests you is slated for tonight, be sure you don't run late or forget to go as this could mean a lot to you in the long run. Your ideas so impress someone today that they make an immediate suggestion of a partnership. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Try to stay out of family quarrels today especially if they do not involve you to begin with, the middle is an uncomfortable place to be; people often get crushed when in such a position. It is an excellent time to take yourself out shopping while everything gets straightened out. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Being short with a coworker today will not endear you to this person and could set up production problems for you in the future. This is a good day for implementing your ideas as the boss thinks you are one imaginative person and has kept his ears open to your ideas in the past. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Hanging onto your extravagant urges will be a full time job for you today as you seem to want everything you see or hear about. This would be a good day for getting away from shops and maybe go fishing or swimming, if you don't have to work, just to keep your mind off of spending. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Group activities, possible a charity drive, are highlighted for today when you are called upon to help out your local charity. Your personality is very attractive today as people find you pleasant and easy to get along with. Its your charisma, use it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Your career interests move forward today in spite of a few upsets early on, upsets that you are well able to handle with diplomacy. The afternoon is good for making those presentations you have been getting all prepared. An out of town call makes you happy. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Steer clear of friends who may be in an argumentative mood for the day so you do not chance getting into a big one and losing a friend in the process. your slated meeting with an agent goes well and you are on your way to a better life. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Try not to antagonize a coworker today as it could make working for the firm more unpleasant than it already is. Hold your temper and keep this job while you look for another one. It is a fact of life that if you are already working, it is easy to find another position."}, {"response": 673, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jul 26, 2000 (04:57)", "body": "Fund raiser for spring.net?"}, {"response": 674, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 26, 2000 (16:38)", "body": "July 26, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Being with others will prove to be prosperous for you today. Take this opportunity to shine. Join others and celebrate! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Even thought a Cancer in your life seems rather cranky, you're going to take the plunge and trust him on his opinion. This is going to bring about a brand new opportunity if you can trust the advice he has for you. Anyone hoping for a raise? AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra This is a time where everything is coming together. The number three is very lucky for you. Make sure to go out and have fun during this down time. See if you can get the company to pay for your dinner. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces There is going to be a major change in your life and you need to be ready to live moment to moment. Worry is not going to change this so go with the flow. Everything you need will be provided to you."}, {"response": 675, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 26, 2000 (17:38)", "body": "marcia??? *HUGS* July 26, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A business deal is looking good at this time so proceed. Someone who has harbored ill feelings for you in the past would now like to make it up to you. This could be to your benefit to let them do so. Children may be a little unruly and cause you to be upset. Hold on to that Aries temper. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) New people at work are not quite used to the way you are doing things, or you may be the new worker. Either way you should give them a chance to warm up to you as they almost surely will. Love is spotlighted for today. Reaffirm your vows to strengthen a marriage bond that could be fraying at the edges. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Today is a quiet time for you and your loved ones. Bar-b-q, swimming pool, badminton with the kids, all of these are a step in the right direction. Family ties are the high point for today. Be alert on the job today but with your keen attention to details you will be able to prevent any accidents. CANCER ( June 22-July 22) This is good day to find bargains on building material and supplies. Guard against any impulse buying for \"later\" projects because a bargain is a bargain as long as you need it to use. You will find many willing hands at home to help. Don't forget that even the youngest one makes a good \"gofer\". LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A child could possibly feel left out and jealous of a newborn today so take extra care to stress {show don't tell} his or her importance to you and the entire family as a whole. If this is your first be careful not to spoil it too much! VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Someone who has been absent in your life for a while may be contacting you be mail or telephone. Promises made today are not to be relied on so take all such with \"a grain of salt\" but you are usually sharp on the uptake and will be able to spot a phoney line a mile away. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Business runs into a few snags but with your drive and perseverance you soon get it all in hand and running smooth again. A new love is in the air for you single Libras, or possibly an old love that you are still attracted to. This person may have played you false in the past, be careful this time around. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Today you will be very tempted to cheat on a spouse but that could be the worst decision of your life as the signs are right today that you would be found out and lose everything you have worked together with your spouse to accomplish. Cheating Always winds up costing the cheater. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Today when you run into helpful strangers listen to your feelings. You could be speaking to an angel unaware. You will also get your chance to help someone today. Perhaps a car stalled, a driver with a flat tire or just asking directions. Children will also make demands on your time today. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Money problems will show some improvement today along with a job opportunity that shows excellent promise. A trade offer you may receive is not in your best interests at this time. Use evening time for prayer and meditation. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Small appliances may be a nuisance today, also other, more mundane things can come along to spoil your day if you let them. I know with your capabilities that you will be able to take care of and manage these small things so they do not get blown out of proportion and ruin your day. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Your friends and loved ones will look to you today for leadership. Your advice is sound so don't be afraid to speak up. Your spouse is planning a big surprise for you and the family so be prepared. Try to smile even if the activity should call for more energy than you feel you can spare."}, {"response": 676, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 26, 2000 (22:42)", "body": "Yup, it's me!!!"}, {"response": 677, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 27, 2000 (10:46)", "body": "Astrology outlook for the month Astrological overview: The biggest news, I would suppose, has to do with Mr. Saturn, old man fate himself, at least old man fate of the astrological milieu. He gets up to the doorway into the tropical zodiac sign of Gemini, and stops. In the real world, he doesn't actually stop, but his relative motion to our planet, it appears like he stops. At that point called \"zero Gemini.\" Jupiter is in Gemini, and starting to slow down some, too, and this is compounded by Mars spending the duration of the month in Leo, and Venus just barely squeaks all the way through Libra. The rest of the stuff is pretty much the same, nothing new here. It looks like Virgo starts around the 23rd of this month. Secure online ordering for a personalized reading is available on the website: WWW.ASTROFISH.NET Aries : It's one thing to go by the book, read all the rules about astrology, and make inferences drawn on an academic knowledge. It's another thing to look at the Aries chart for the month (charts, actually), and consider some personal observations drawn from many long years of watching what's up with Aries. Going to be an interesting time. \"Interesting GOOD or interesting BAD?\" is the impatient question. The answer is \"Yes.\" It's one of those months that it all depends on what you do with what the stars are dealing you right now. It is a time when there's a greater degree of happiness floating around, and there's a feeling, a sudden shift around the middle of the month, which indicates that everything is getting a little bit different. Supposedly a little bit better. But once again, we're back to this \"it depends on what you do with what you've got\" sort of thing. The books say it's a good time. My applied astrology, though, suggests that you're going to feel a little more irritable than ever before. Part of this is because you're going to run into people who take far too long to say too little. Or folks who can't make up their minds. This is a month like a trip to the grocery store -- it doesn't matter what line you're in, the other one always moves faster. Consider it a good time to catch up on Elvis sightings and space alien invasion news, if you know what I mean. Taurus : I promised relief, and it's here, this month, right now. It's not a long bit of relief, but it is a short period of relative peace. Sort of, see, if it's not one planet that's making you unhappy, then there's always something else that pops up. As long as Mars is in Leo, he's going to put some extra pressure on you, at one point or another. So this month, even though you're done with Saturn for a month or so, you still have a contentious Mars thing to deal with. Mars is like the late summer heat here in Austin -- it's good for baking things on the sidewalk, but this type of heat also drives the animals to do strange things. I've seen fish literally jump into boats at times like this. Now, in your own Taurus world, you might try to make this a little more sporting. You get this sudden feeling of relief as Saturn makes his exit. Then, like those fish, you might do something a little too exuberant. This is the combination of Mars and Saturn, sudden relief, and then a sudden burst of energy -- perhaps a sudden burst in the wrong direction. When you get to celebrating this month, try to find a designated driver. It's a matter of finding some rational way of blowing off steam, not irrational, not this month. We ain't quite done with Saturn for good, just for a few weeks. Gemini : Hello Gemini! This is a test. This is only a test. This is not an actual emergency. This is not the end of the world. This IS a certified welcome message to what the next few years might be like, if you are willing to go for it. It's a simple message, and it has to do with the new order that's coming along soon enough. This isn't something that is happening right away, but you get the minimalist taste of Saturn right now. The only problem is that Jupiter is already here, and he's just the opposite of being a minimalist, he's the territorial expansion king. Besides, like I alluded to before, this is only the smallest hint of what it could be like. Saturn is willing to work with you, if you are willing to tighten up and display a little bit more self-discipline. So consider this month as a trial run, a quick test, an opportunity to see what it is that needs preparation for the big one coming up. And use this month wisely, it can be full of all sorts of prurient fun. Cancer : There's really only one image that I can conjure up for this month, at least, for Cancer. It's a pretty good image, too, but it's also a little tired. The image is tired, not the Cancer in the image. It's that old bumper sticker slogan, \"If this trailer's rocking, don't come knocking.\" What your astrology looks like this month is that your house on wheels is a veritable party pad, and almost every night this month, you should be enjoying rock and roll. It's going to be a such an active mo"}, {"response": 678, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 27, 2000 (11:12)", "body": "July 27, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You need to slow down. If you don't, you're not going to see the new idea or opportunity in front of you. You have the potential to create something wonderful and new in your life. Don't miss it! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A friendship is going to change for you. Make sure you are grounded when this happens. Even thought you are fearful of the unknown, this will be good for you so let go of the past. It has no bearing on what's going on now. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Are you listening to your intuition? Your spirit guides are trying to communicate with you. You will be hearing some new information that will bring a situation to the light. It will become clear that you've been right all along. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You've been isolating yourself lately but a Scorpio is no longer going to allow you to do that. Have you thought about getting on a roller coaster lately? You need a good scream."}, {"response": 679, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 27, 2000 (17:44)", "body": "*uh oh* marcia, can you get into your email?"}, {"response": 680, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 27, 2000 (17:56)", "body": "Yessum I can.....and am on Yahoo IM also. And AOL IM"}, {"response": 681, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 27, 2000 (20:00)", "body": "don't think i can do the yahoo im and definitely not aol im. am gonna blast an email your way sweetie. prepare yourself for it *GRIN*"}, {"response": 682, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jul 27, 2000 (22:11)", "body": "July 28, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Even though some of your friends might say you're acting foolish, keep walking your path. Leave your past behind. There are those who will try to discourage you but don't listen. They are just jealous because you know who you are. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The time of feeling like you're fighting an uphill battle is over. A Pisces you know is going to be working behind the scenes to make sure this time is over for you. Breathe a sigh of relief -- it's going to be a new adventure from here on out. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You've been working so hard to reach your goal; you haven't been enjoying the process. You will reach this goal but you will feel short changed in the end because you've been letting the fun of reaching it go by you. This is a lesson learned -- you need to enjoy the process as much as the final outcome. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today's travel plans are postponed. There are some mechanical problems that are keeping you home. Is there a tool box handy?"}, {"response": 683, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jul 28, 2000 (04:31)", "body": "I posted some pictures of my new construction adventure in the home conference. This is the big new retreat center in Cedar Creek. http://cybersubdivision.com/pix0727/"}, {"response": 684, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 28, 2000 (17:03)", "body": "yes, i have been working hard to achieve my goal, but i must say, that it's been fun!"}, {"response": 685, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 31, 2000 (13:46)", "body": "July 31, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This is a time for planning. Gather all the information needed to present your case effectively. Know your subject backwards and forwards because you will be asked to follow up and clarify for those who are new to the subject. You're going to be the expert! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Your scrimping and saving will finally pay off and you'll be able to make the major purchase. Be a smart shopper and make sure you get what you pay for. Be proud of your accomplishment and your new purchase! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Even though you don't want to admit it, you've been rather moody lately. It's time to pay attention to those who have been putting up with you. A thoughtful gift may smooth things over very nicely. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today is a great day for group activities. Meeting or social events will be very beneficial for you. You'll be wowing the crowd with your wit and intelligence. Make sure to wear your watch so you don't miss another meeting!"}, {"response": 686, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jul 31, 2000 (21:32)", "body": "i have been very moody all weekend!"}, {"response": 687, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 31, 2000 (23:07)", "body": "I've been sick... August 1, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your performance on the job is A-one as you get your projects in on time. Take advantage of today by being a self starter. A friend wants you to help on a matter that you instinctively realize will hurt someone, possibly you. You pass on the idea. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today a rumor may be worth listening to, check carefully, it may be true. You will find a shopping spree should be kept simple and short. Use logic and common sense at work as you are highly creative but the boss may not like your creative approach to a certain project GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A new job or position is coming your way and it looks like a good one to latch onto. A friend needs a sympathetic ear and yours is the chosen one. Your advice is as good as you always make it. Children will need your special guidance so plan to work with your local youth groups. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Diplomacy is your middle name and you are called on to put it to use today as you are called on to keep the peace. Do not get too wound up in the personal affairs of other people any deeper than you have to, you could end up being the bad guy in their minds if they feel you are interfering LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Don't be taken in by someone as you have only one attraction for this person. An old friend perks your interest when you realize that this person is feeling very romantic about you and, unlike the other one, truly likes you. Work is satisfy- ing today as you accomplish more in less time. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You are somewhat of a dreamer and a philosopher and everyone loves to gather round you and listen. You can and do use some of this talent to help others as they lose their path in life. Beware of animals this week as they can look very deceptive and be more aggressive than you would guess. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A short trip to refresh your mind and your energies today as you get nearer to your boiling point on the job. Go on and get away, you'll come back in better shape and you may even start to like your job again. Friends and family give you space to think. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You wear power well and it suits you. With understanding you help others through some emotional pain when you must make a decision that may not have their best interests at heart. Business must be first even though it does not sit well with you but what must be, must be. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Apply logic and sense to your present home situation and you will be able to remove the stress that is building up over your new employment. Don't be talked out of reaching your goal when you are so close to catching the brass ring. A child may give you a few problems today but you can handle it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Everyone is ecstatic over the new home so try to keep hold of a possibly quick temper so you do not spoil the fun. Remember, you only move into a place for the first time, once. Try to be sure everyone comes through this with a lot of laughing, happy memories they can share in later years. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) This is not a good time to go overboard on spending unless you need to purchase necessities and in that case, bargain hunting just came back into style. The business plans you have been working on shows signs of becoming a reality as someone offers you financial backing. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A good idea you had a while back seems too good to waste so you revive it and revise it and once implemented, everything runs smooth for you. Friends and relatives are happier to be with you now that you are no longer worried and walking around with a long face."}, {"response": 688, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 31, 2000 (23:09)", "body": "August 1, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Feeling grumpy lately? Don't take it out on your biggest fan. They are only trying to help. The last thing you want to do is to hurt their feelings. Have patience and watch your tongue because words can cut like a knife. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Have you planned a vacation yet? You may not think you have the finances but you do. Plan a weekend getaway somewhere you haven't been before. Search for bargains and you'll find a new place to go that you've never dreamed about. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Ready to take on new responsibility? Good - because you're going to get a new project to work on and it's very important. Make sure not to get overwhelmed. Ask others for help -- they are more happy to pitch in. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Laughter is the best medicine. While you might not think joking around today would be appropriate, you can still get your work done and have a great time. It will make the day go by faster if you join in the fun."}, {"response": 689, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 1, 2000 (07:06)", "body": "now isn't that strange? both postings hint at the same thing (gemini)....oh boy!"}, {"response": 690, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (17:59)", "body": "August 2, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today looks good for you from a personal point of view. This is more likely to spring from new things at work rather than sheer luck. Resist the temptation to start a new romance although today is fine for nurturing an existing romance. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Friends and relatives might stress you out today if you do not adopt a more cavalier attitude toward things. Don't take yourself or others too seriously. Your bright ideas about money pays off for you. today is a good time to start a new romance providing you are single. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The stock market may or may not be your thing, but you will do well with your investments today. Your love life however, does not look as good. Nothing too bad, but caution is in order. Take some time to spend outdoors. Positive things are sure to occur for you today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Look deeply at the situations going on around you, someone needs your help and it should not be too hard to spot. This is a great day to start a new business venture; luck is also in the air for you and it would be a good idea to buy some lottery tickets. Do not over indulge. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today will be fun filled for you if you let it. You do not seem to take things too seriously but there may be some minor disturbances that call upon your higher logic. Take good care to make the right decision, as things you do will have a long lasting effect. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you should take the time to smell the roses, spend some time outdoors, with a loved one if possible. If you do not find a way to relax you may find yourself quit- ting the job very soon. Play it safe when it comes to financial deals. Hasty decisions could be your undoing. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a good day for major purchases. Do it right the first time, get advice and use your logic. A possible love affair with a new friend that you recently met is very possible. Time seems to fly for you as there will be lot of activity all around you most of the day. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today you are the stinging scorpion, as you may say things you do not really mean. Be especially careful around sen- sitive people unless you are ready to trash can that per- sons friendship. At work you will be recognized for your accomplishments. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you excel at work. With strong determination, it is possible for you to finally get the recognition you deserve. Making peace with family members helps you keep your mind on the job at hand. Your love life is also on the up side; for the married this means a rediscovery of one another. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Do not confront a member of the opposite sex today, as it may have serious side effects. Take time to think about the situation before you act. Do a little reading in your spare time. Chances are good you will read something that will inspire you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Spend some time focusing on relaxation to bring back stability. Home is where your love is, but you may need to get away for a while to find peace. There is a good chance that an old friend may give you some financial advice. A lucky day for you, and a great one to play the lottery. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Temptation may arise for you to do something you would really rather not do, heed your inner feelings on this matter. Be careful how you handle a certain situation, you should take some time to listen as well as talk. A good night to have dinner out with the spouse."}, {"response": 691, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (18:01)", "body": "Oh Wolfie, don't like our chances for today!!! Mine have been good, though... August 2, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Work is stressful today but you'll have no problem handling it. Your boss will be watching your work so make sure you double check everything you submit. Watch for a Sagittarius to lighten the mood. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A get together with friends is what you needed to unwind. Let loose and relax! Make sure to head home early, though. You still have to work tomorrow so get some rest or you'll be feeling sluggish tomorrow. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Love is in the air. It's a great day to let someone you know you love and appreciate them. Be sweet to someone you love. They will definitely return your affection. And who doesn't like cuddling? WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's just one of those days. You'll be wondering if the angels are playing jokes on your because you can't seem to find your keys and you can't wear the outfit your originally planned. Roll with it -- tomorrow will be better."}, {"response": 692, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (18:02)", "body": "Oh, Wolfie, the above one is much better! Get to it, Girl!!!"}, {"response": 693, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (18:06)", "body": "can't....read my email! (and you're on line but not online? what's your msn call sign?)"}, {"response": 694, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (20:38)", "body": "Kilauea84... it is changed !"}, {"response": 695, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "August 3, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Don't let the disagreements or developments with someone you are trying to help cause you undue stress and anxiety as you have done all you can do and the problems should soon be over. Take a warning at work seriously today as no one is irreplace- able, not even you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Taurus should not get too bullheaded today as that could lead to some irreparable arguments with people you care about, compromise will be your best avenue to take towards restoring the peace. Teenagers may run you ragged but you give unstin- ingly of your time and energy. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The twins will find themselves in a turmoil and it will be extremely hard to make a decision and stick to it today. It will be best to put off making decisions that could have a major impact on your life and/or your future. You are tempt- ed to follow the path of least resistance; don't. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your dream has come true and now you are on your way. Remember that you are the only one that can succeed for you and then act accordingly. Family and friends give you very little time to think today so the best thing to do is go off alone until you have things all sorted out in your mind. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Leo, you have a hard time keeping up with your peers today as you are feeling a little under the weather; see your doctor soon for that checkup you have been putting off and it will serve to relieve your mind as well as help you feel better. Spend the evening relaxing. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Employee unrest will be the order of the day at your workplace but you have the matter well in hand. Plan some activities with the children as they do not see half enough of you because you are always preoccupied. Take time to get reacquainted and find out what they like to do. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) If you truly loved a person then forgiving them would not be such a hardship for you, you would welcome him or her back with open arms. Working conditions improve to the point that you may decide to stay with the firm and pass up that new job offer. An evening of fun is in order. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You will be glad that you let a certain matter slide today since you find out the real truth and the real culprit later in the day. Friends may try to talk you out of a planned career move but this is something that only you can decide as you do know what is best for you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Some type of get together is on your agenda for today and you will find yourself renewing old friendships with those you have not seen for many years. It will be fascinating to see how much everyone has changed. Domestic disputes can now be- come a thing of the past as you renew your vows. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You will be seeing old friends or relatives today as you receive some unexpected visitors. this will give you the chance to check out the news and let the children get acquainted with each other. Put away worries over your work and use this time to unwind. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your head is filled with romance and your heart is filled with love! Be sure it does not distract you from more important things, such as work. Older family members will come to you with an idea that may cause you pain but you will see that it is for the best. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Take things one at a time and all will work out for the best for everyone concerned. Extravagance can cause you some financial headaches today if you are not careful to curb those urges. Put off any shopping as given your present mood, you are apt to buy- out the store."}, {"response": 696, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (21:14)", "body": "Gemini This Week (May 21 - June 21) Many things are important to Gemini. Communication is of paramount importance, with regard to both clarity and the sheer volume of information you deliver. Considering where it occurs and how you feel its effects, during this pesky eclipse pattern, Gemini will find question-and-answer time less important. Plan on laying your head on your lover's shoulder. Plan on a quiet moment. Plan on doing something with your mouth besides talking. There are other forms of communication. Even a simple kiss and a gentle caress are a better start than trying to convey all that other stuff with words. Words may fail; actions deliver the goods."}, {"response": 697, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (21:26)", "body": "Sagittarius This Week (Nov. 23 - Dec. 21) Slow down your frivolity-loving side for just a second. Take a deep breath and look at the long-range implications of what you suggest. Consider making a more lasting arrangement. The typical Sagittarius is more interested in a short-term situation than anything that might suggest commitment. With the recent spate of planetary activity comes a hint that this is exactly the time to consider settling down a little. Instead of being a carefree mess, leaping from situation to situation, consider the person in your sights as a possible long-term player. Commitment doesn't mean confinement."}, {"response": 698, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (21:35)", "body": "Cancer This Week (June 22 - July 22) According to common wisdom, the best defense is a good offense. Likewise, the best way to have what you want is to go out and get it. The best way to deal with an unpredictable eclipse -- with all those emotions running hot -- is to go against conventional wisdom. Remove yourself from the security of your homestead. Try their place instead. Don't have a \"their place\" in your sights? Then get one now! Eclipse or no eclipse, the New Moon suits you fine; it's just a matter of starting something. By skipping the normal, conventional route you'd usually take, you get to skip the downside of the lunar phase and explore the benefits."}, {"response": 699, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (21:38)", "body": "I am still here! My screen name is just different now... Kilauea83a for you"}, {"response": 700, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 2, 2000 (22:49)", "body": "actually Kilauea83A... Wolfie, how about this one. Hmmm... Gemini This Week (May 21 - June 21) When it comes to love, Mars in Leo in your third house of communication speaks cleverly and playfully. Remember though, Gemini, it is also important to know when to be silent and let your partner upstage you. Your supporting role is to provide tender, loving care. This week offers on-the-job training. If you're looking for love, someone may stimulate your interest with direct communication on Monday, Thursday, or Friday. You may have to compete for this person's attention, but chances are good that you'll win. The other days this week could introduce too many secrets."}, {"response": 701, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 3, 2000 (00:49)", "body": "August 3, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Wear something with Red in it today. You're going to need to feel grounded. You'll be confronted on a past issue today you thought was done and over with. Stand your ground and make your case based on fact, not emotion. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A chance meeting with an old acquaintance will give you the chance to clear up some old misconceptions. Though it may be uncomfortable at first, you'll get the chance to listen an old burden off your shoulders. This will be a great healing experience for both of you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Don't be rushing too much today to get to where you're going on time - You'll actually fall further behind. It's better to be 10 minutes late than having to go home and get that important document your forgot. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today would be a great day to surprise someone you love with a visit. Even though you don't know it, they have been hoping to see you for a while. Make sure not to go empty handed -- everyone loves a gift!"}, {"response": 702, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 3, 2000 (17:28)", "body": "*wow*"}, {"response": 703, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 3, 2000 (18:05)", "body": "*grin* gonna past them each week...or should I just email them to you???"}, {"response": 704, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 3, 2000 (20:19)", "body": "August 4, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you must caution yourself against making any drastic changes that may hurt you in the long run. The future is very bright for you. The workplace turns into your best source for meeting friends. Do not breach your work ethic though, as this could have disastrous effects. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) At work you are an overnight success, Don't rest on your laurels, keep up the good work. Stick with your health regimen and try walking as much as possible to tone up your muscles and your heart. A get together in the evening with friends bring some things to light. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Try to shore up a degenerating marriage with lots of love and understanding along with a long talk to clear up what each one needs and expects from the other. This will go far in recreating the atmosphere of love and harmony necessary in all marriages. Children will benefit from this. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Younger Cancerians have it in their power today to lead their companions away from trouble and into good clean fun, while you older ones turn up as leaders of their communities and role models. Kudos to you, this is your day for adulation. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Although you may be single, you also have to play by the rules and not pursue someone who is already committed to another. Married Leos should have no trouble with a wan- dering eye as long as it wanders towards home. Your moral values may be given a spiritual test this afternoon. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Joining a new club is a good way to make friends and widen your circle of acquaintances while adding to your network- ing pool. Don't let a new boss intimidate you. Stay respect- ful, but adhere to your ideals as they are the reason you were hired in the first place. Be creative. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A Gemini hits you with a new idea for an innovative enter- prise that takes you by surprise. Its very simplicity should assure you of an almost overnight success. Keep up you health regimen and try walking as much as possible. Enlist a walking buddy if you can. Vitamins, anyone? SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your recent business investment is beginning to show signs of becoming a success and you look for similar investments to make. Be sure to do your homework on each one and don't over extend yourself in this area. A good evening for spending with old friends and talking over the past. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A new assignment may take some of you overseas, so this will be a day of hurry and scurry as you prepare everything for the big event. If possible, plan to take a spouse along as you may be gone quite a while. Others will find excitement on different levels in the workplace today. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You should keep an optimistic attitude today in the face of adversity. Things change constantly and this also must pass. Talk your career plans over with a spouse or spouse to be, as they will affect them as much as you in the long run. Travel today will be beneficial. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Take all the time you need to finish an all important pro- ject today. A good friend asks you for financial help and you give it. An offer of some substance may be made to you today and you should evaluate it very carefully as it may not seem too lucrative, but it shows great promise. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Hasty judgments you've made in the past prove to be wrong. A long lost friend shows up on your doorstep and you roll out the welcome mat. News from afar gladdens your heart as you can lay to rest certain worries you've been having. Dreams ring true, as you will see today."}, {"response": 705, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 3, 2000 (21:29)", "body": "yeah, i saw it!"}, {"response": 706, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 3, 2000 (22:59)", "body": "Maybe this on is better...Hate that one above!!! Horrorscope, for sure! This one is no better! Lets run away tomorrow, Wolfie!!! August 4, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Have your started to look for new work? It's time for you to pursue your passion. Stop staying in a position you don't like. Mention your search to people you trust. You'll be surprised who is going to put you on the right path. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Make sure your outfit is totally put together today. You're going to be in the spotlight and you'll want to look your best. You're feeling so confident today you'll be knocking the socks off your fans and your critics. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Today is a good day to tidy up on things and catch up on those errands that have been nagging you. No one likes to see laundry piling up in the corner. Make sure to mail and pay all your bills today -- you don't want to get hit with late fees! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Attention to detail is important today in every aspect of your life -- personal and professional. If you aren't paying attention or rushing to get the job done, you're going to have to scrap the project and start all over again."}, {"response": 707, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 4, 2000 (00:34)", "body": "Wolfie! Finally one I can stomach!!! August 4, 2000 Aries (Mar. 21 - Apr. 20) Set your sights on goals that seem almost impossible to achieve. When others think you cannot attain what you say you can, you'll take that as a challenge. Your competitive spirit could drive you forward on a path of great success. Your greatest success will come from travel, exploration of avenues at a distance, or projects that reach out to many people. Set many projects in motion now. Taurus (Apr. 21 - May 20) Although your personal life has been the focus of your attention lately, you'll be ready to shift gears by next week. Now your serious attention will be on financial structures for yourself and for others. You may take on the chore of managing money for someone who is less capable than you are and who needs your expert advice. Be sure you don't let disagreements upset you and disrupt your health. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Luck will be on your side for some time to come. With Jupiter in your sign, you'll find it easy to set new goals and live up to new challenges. Your tremendous enthusiasm could be especially contagious and will draw many people to your side. Focus on new projects in the communications fields. You could pave the way for others and still remain ahead of the competition. Avoid investments for the moment. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Your vulnerability could show itself once more. After some serenity with your home life, someone may say some things that could hurt your feelings. Be sure you don't inadvertently step on the toes of family members. They truly care about you and may be overly concerned about your welfare. If you are not feeling up to par, you may tend to overreact. Deal with financial matters with enthusiasm and resourcefulness. Leo (July 23 - Aug. 22) You may have to be first in line with group situations, leading the way and showing others the true path. You will have a great response to any adventurous situation, and that could make things very exciting. You have a wonderful sense of yourself and are the center of attention now. Recognize your inner light. That is what will guide people on their path. Forget the glory that is sure to come your way. Avoid the trap of flattery. Virgo (Aug. 23 - Sep. 22) Keep to yourself in order to accomplish what you must. You could raise capital, collect debts, or ask for funding with the knowledge that it will be repaid handsomely. Your sensitivity about the trends of the times will lead to satisfying financial activities. Focus on group situations in which you are the spokesperson and decision-maker. You'll soon have a profound new public image. Libra (Sep. 23 - Oct. 23) Your emotions may lie close to the surface now. Be aware of your vulnerability, and stay away from situations in which you're likely to get hurt. Some public situations will bring new opportunities, but sooner or later you may have to contend with some jealousies. Romance could lead you to exciting new territories. You may explore adventurous situations that have never appealed to you before. Scorpio (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Life is never dull around you. Today is certainly no exception. You could find an exciting new situation at the very base of your life. Listen to your instincts about travel, promotions, and networking. You'll hit the jackpot by associating with people and situations that relate to healing, music, or metaphysical concerns. Sagittarius (Nov. 23 - Dec. 21) Prepare yourself for a surprise or two. Some unexpected conversation may sweep you off into a new direction. Friendships prove to be stimulating and exciting. You may be the one to lead a group into a deeper understanding regarding the communications fields. Your compassion and understanding could be especially healing to family members. Capricorn (Dec. 22 - Jan. 20) Show your daredevil side and surprise everyone around you. If others have been shortsighted and only see you as the person to shoulder all the responsibilities, they'll have a big surprise today. Go after funding for a project you want to start. You'll bowl people over with your request. Your needs will be granted before anyone has a chance to think twice. As long as your motivation is high, you can go full speed ahead. Aquarius (Jan. 21 - Feb. 18) You may plan your day most carefully but suddenly find yourself in a whole new territory or place. Keep to your agenda but know that life has infinitely more exciting things in mind for you than you can conceive. Be ready to switch gears without hesitation. Partners may be the ones to lead you into unknown territory. Blaze trails together, and have a wonderful time doing it. Pisces (Feb. 19 - Mar. 20) Renewed vigor and enthusiasm could bring you into a lifestyle that will keep you high on air. Your reason for creating a safe, new environment could remain somewhat of a mystery for the moment. You may think it is only for the enjoyment of a peaceful environment. You'll discover a new purpose at the base of your life after"}, {"response": 708, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 4, 2000 (22:56)", "body": "August 5, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Good judgment will help you through some shaky time in your business world today. Fortunately you have plenty of that and you handle all problems as they confront you. A family situation will take up a good part of your evening but compromise saves the day. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is not a good day to take time off from your business to spend in personal pursuits. This is a crucial period in the life of your business and you should be right there on top of everything. It only takes a minute for a molehill to become a mountain. You are the only one who will recog- nize these molehills in time. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Traffic is rough today so be careful every minute you are on the road. Drive defensively. Try to handle problems as they arise and things will go more smoothly for you. The promotion you have been working for could come through for you today and that puts everyone in a great mood. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Tempers may be very close to the surface and it would be wise to treat everyone with an extra dose of courtesy and kindness so as to short circuit any budding feuds. Search for hidden clauses in all contracts today as there is a possibility of an 'I gotcha\" in one. Keep alert and the truth will not elude you in these matters. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone close to you will confide her/his love and dreams to you today and you are amazed. You have wanted to open up to this person but you were sure she/he cared more for someone else, but now you are on cloud nine and the two of you start on your wedding plans. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Financial worries beset you now and you spend most of your day worrying until you realize that work, not worry will get you over the hump. Pay close attention to details and put those new plans into operation. Soon you will have those financial problems all taken care of. Offer employees fresh incentives to be more productive. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you should receive that all important call and you jump at it. You may be in a dead end job with no chance of advancement and have had your feelers out for a new position with an up and coming new company. This promises to be the way to go. A loved one is with you one hundred percent on your change. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Hell hath no fury--- it would be a good thing to watch your back, figuratively speaking, of course, for awhile. At least until a certain person calms down. There could be some disquieting episodes at work but you handle them with your usual tact and diplomacy. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your ship finally comes in but be careful as it is not yet firmly tied to the dock. No one knows your business better than you do. Shore up your business as best you can by paying close attention to the weakest areas. Assign key people to handle the parts that are running smoothly and you handle the rest. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Someone out there thinks of you as easy prey and will make their move accordingly. You are not as gullible as thought and you are able to recognize the con when it is put forth and send them packing. Be cautious on the job today as there may be a few minor mishaps. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Friends and loved ones lean more and more on you for spiritual guidance as they sense your psychic energy. Your love life should be noticeably picking up. Mar- ried people will feel more drawn towards a loved one. You will do well at work, and will have a lot of positive new ideas. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your energies are around normal levels, but your reasoning ability will be enhanced. Take advantage of this time by addressing the most unpleasant areas of your life that require this type of logical approach. Pay close attention to the hidden messages in the songs of children, many gems have been mined like this."}, {"response": 709, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 4, 2000 (23:01)", "body": "August 5, 2000 Aries (Mar. 21 - Apr. 20) Set your sights on goals that seem almost impossible to achieve. When others think you cannot attain what you say you can, you'll take that as a challenge. Your competitive spirit could drive you forward on a path of great success. Your greatest success will come from travel, exploration of avenues at a distance, or projects that reach out to many people. Set many projects in motion now. Taurus (Apr. 21 - May 20) Although your personal life has been the focus of your attention lately, you'll be ready to shift gears by next week. Now your serious attention will be on financial structures for yourself and for others. You may take on the chore of managing money for someone who is less capable than you are and who needs your expert advice. Be sure you don't let disagreements upset you and disrupt your health. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Luck will be on your side for some time to come. With Jupiter in your sign, you'll find it easy to set new goals and live up to new challenges. Your tremendous enthusiasm could be especially contagious and will draw many people to your side. Focus on new projects in the communications fields. You could pave the way for others and still remain ahead of the competition. Avoid investments for the moment. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) Your vulnerability could show itself once more. After some serenity with your home life, someone may say some things that could hurt your feelings. Be sure you don't inadvertently step on the toes of family members. They truly care about you and may be overly concerned about your welfare. If you are not feeling up to par, you may tend to overreact. Deal with financial matters with enthusiasm and resourcefulness. Leo (July 23 - Aug. 22) You may have to be first in line with group situations, leading the way and showing others the true path. You will have a great response to any adventurous situation, and that could make things very exciting. You have a wonderful sense of yourself and are the center of attention now. Recognize your inner light. That is what will guide people on their path. Forget the glory that is sure to come your way. Avoid the trap of flattery. Virgo (Aug. 23 - Sep. 22) Keep to yourself in order to accomplish what you must. You could raise capital, collect debts, or ask for funding with the knowledge that it will be repaid handsomely. Your sensitivity about the trends of the times will lead to satisfying financial activities. Focus on group situations in which you are the spokesperson and decision-maker. You'll soon have a profound new public image. Libra (Sep. 23 - Oct. 23) Your emotions may lie close to the surface now. Be aware of your vulnerability, and stay away from situations in which you're likely to get hurt. Some public situations will bring new opportunities, but sooner or later you may have to contend with some jealousies. Romance could lead you to exciting new territories. You may explore adventurous situations that have never appealed to you before. Scorpio (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Life is never dull around you. Today is certainly no exception. You could find an exciting new situation at the very base of your life. Listen to your instincts about travel, promotions, and networking. You'll hit the jackpot by associating with people and situations that relate to healing, music, or metaphysical concerns. Sagittarius (Nov. 23 - Dec. 21) Prepare yourself for a surprise or two. Some unexpected conversation may sweep you off into a new direction. Friendships prove to be stimulating and exciting. You may be the one to lead a group into a deeper understanding regarding the communications fields. Your compassion and understanding could be especially healing to family members. Capricorn (Dec. 22 - Jan. 20) Show your daredevil side and surprise everyone around you. If others have been shortsighted and only see you as the person to shoulder all the responsibilities, they'll have a big surprise today. Go after funding for a project you want to start. You'll bowl people over with your request. Your needs will be granted before anyone has a chance to think twice. As long as your motivation is high, you can go full speed ahead. Aquarius (Jan. 21 - Feb. 18) You may plan your day most carefully but suddenly find yourself in a whole new territory or place. Keep to your agenda but know that life has infinitely more exciting things in mind for you than you can conceive. Be ready to switch gears without hesitation. Partners may be the ones to lead you into unknown territory. Blaze trails together, and have a wonderful time doing it. Pisces (Feb. 19 - Mar. 20) Renewed vigor and enthusiasm could bring you into a lifestyle that will keep you high on air. Your reason for creating a safe, new environment could remain somewhat of a mystery for the moment. You may think it is only for the enjoyment of a peaceful environment. You'll discover a new purpose at the base of your life after next week. Don't let the unexpected "}, {"response": 710, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 5, 2000 (10:45)", "body": "the traffic thing scares me."}, {"response": 711, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 5, 2000 (16:14)", "body": "Yeah, Wolfie, I can see why....!"}, {"response": 712, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 6, 2000 (00:53)", "body": "Auggust 6, 2000 Aries (Mar. 21 - Apr. 20) You may feel left out in the cold today. Don't make judgments about anything at the moment, because you're not seeing things clearly. Some remaining financial pressures could keep you on tenterhooks in areas of group activity. If you need to raise funds or obtain grants, this is not the day to deal with those issues. Instead try to pay more attention to family members. Taurus (Apr. 21 - May 20) Take care of your health. Some letdown related to love and your personal life may keep you from feeling your best. In fact you may feel totally hysterical today. Since this is an unusual reaction for you, look for the reasons behind your upsetting emotional reaction. You may discover that someone else is really the vulnerable one and is projecting those feelings onto you. Take a breather. Avoid making judgments. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) You may want to run away today. Travel plans could suddenly fall apart, leaving you at loose ends. You may not be feeling up to par, either. If you overreact, it could be because of lowered vitality. Set your sights on new goals, especially where partners are concerned. You could easily work out all the details on the job and with matters at a distance if you give events time to settle into a pattern of their own. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) You could charm the birds out of the trees and discuss new contractual arrangements with ease today. Don't let worry about your financial security hold you back. You may hesitate to make waves, yet you can express ideas that will solve major problems for the people around you. You are under some pressure about a partnership now. You could feel unloved. Don't make judgments. Things can turn on a dime. Leo (July 23 - Aug. 22) Get ready to go full steam ahead with major projects. If you're tired, however, take time to resolve the issues that seem to be draining your energy. Although your emotions relate to powerful projects with land, home, and property, you may also need some time to prepare for an onset of new activity by as early as next week. You'll have your nose to the grindstone after that. Virgo (Aug. 23 - Sep. 22) Discussions, contracts, and communications could lead to especially potent and dynamic activities. You could be dealing with major landed institutions, issues that relate to property, and anything that pertains to your home or lifestyle. These are your areas of power. Don't let momentary worry about your financial life prevent you from reaching out to distant shores and finding new outlets for your products. Libra (Sep. 23 - Oct. 23) If you could only see your capabilities on a giant screen, you might even feel overwhelmed yourself. Just know that nothing is out of reach for you if your motivation is the good of humanity. Get involved in the communications fields or in some other area in which your ideas will reach many people. Don't let feelings of helplessness and inadequacy overtake you. Scorpio (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your feelings are close to the surface today. Some fears or insecurities may arise to haunt you once again. If you are overcome with worry about other people, you may be helpless to make a dent in their problems. You may wish you could take some burdens on your own shoulders. Send positive thoughts and love to the people you are concerned about. You could feel neglected for the moment. Sagittarius (Nov. 23 - Dec. 21) Situations with groups, friends, and associates could seem burdensome and restrictive now. Try not to decide what other people are thinking and feeling. Deal with your own disappointment over your financial situation. Your hopes may have been unfounded and a bit unrealistic. If you realize that pressures can eat away some of your energy reserves, you'll withhold judgment and get some rest and relaxation. Capricorn (Dec. 22 - Jan. 20) You could experience a blow to your ego and sense of self today. If you have recently had great success in getting your needs met, and now you encounter some rejection, it could be through no fault of your own. Avoid shutting out the very people who are in a position to help later on. Your career and public duties could seem burdensome at the moment. Take a vacation. Aquarius (Jan. 21 - Feb. 18) Partnership may not be what it's cracked up to be for the moment. Don't make judgments and overreact to the behavior of others. Onerous duties could cause people to react in ways you might not expect. Avoid feeling shut out or abandoned. You may not be comfortable with a situation at the base of your life. Your home life demands some revamping, renovation, and redoing. You could shift your focus to other things by next week. Pisces (Feb. 19 - Mar. 20) Discussions may not be the way to proceed right now. If you have extra vitality, you could take on additional responsibilities for your neighborhood or extended family. Otherwise, it behooves you to recoup your own energy for the tasks ahead. Postpone conversations until you feel on top of all si"}, {"response": 713, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Aug 6, 2000 (20:41)", "body": "I'm real, real busy with remodeling and rebuilding the Cedar Creek house right now, but I'll be set up again and more active in a couple of weeks. I'll have an internet connection there, hopefully, by the 18th."}, {"response": 714, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 6, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "August 7, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're feeling very upbeat today. It's a great day to use your charisma to get things done. Watch for a Capricorn to bring you some great news about finances. You'll be sitting back at the end of the day thinking you're on top of the world. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It might not be the best idea to procrastinate at work. Your boss is considering you for new responsibilities and you need to prove you can work through your boredom. Get that job done and you'll impress those around you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're going to find out there is something going on behind the scenes. While it may be initially upsetting to you, this needed to happen. The only way you can move on is to work through what's been going on and see if something new can come from this. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Even though you've been doing a lot of work lately, it's going to be worth it. You'll be pleasantly surprised - that someone you've been trying to get on your side finally recognizes what you've been doing."}, {"response": 715, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 7, 2000 (17:41)", "body": "oh no!"}, {"response": 716, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 7, 2000 (21:09)", "body": "August 8, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Aries the ram may be climbing mountains that are a little too steep in places, but you will see the light today and head for the nearest plateau. A promotion at work is just what the doctor ordered to get you back on track. Plan a quiet evening at home and let your nerves settle down. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) An e-mail message may have you standing on your head in antici- pation of finally meeting this dream that you have been con- versing with for months. Be sure that when you do meet it is in a well populated place and not alone, until you are well acquainted with him/her. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Mountain climbing may not be this sea goats favorite past time so it is best not to go around making mountains out of molehills and asking for trouble and/or disappointment in your affairs. A coworker may exhibit some jealousy today as you collect kudos at work. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Don't let wild imaginations run away with you today as you try to project what someone is likely to do or not do. Actions taken could be for several different reasons and you may not even be close to figuring this person out. Let your nerves relax and unwind as you wait for a more positive action or word. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) An overbearing person at work may have you so incensed today that you feel like just walking out on the job. Don't ever do that as your reputation follows you to the next one, be- sides, it is always easier to find another place of employ- ment when you are already employed. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Even though you are no longer a child you still feel like saying, \"Mother, please, I'd rather do it myself\" when a doting parent tries to help you out of a spot you are in. Being an adult, and sure of your own inner strength, you should use your strength to accept gracefully and not injure loving feelings. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A spouse may be pulling all the work load he or she can at the moment and you step forward to ease the burden to the best of your ability, and that is a considerable amount as you have abilities that have not even been tested yet, but your 'I can do it' attitude sees you through. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) While love is beautiful and grand it is still not the end all and the be all of your life, so if this person drives you to the brink of sanity or otherwise causes you much unrest you might want to meditate along the lines of: is it love, or is it codependency. You will see the differ- ence. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Family affairs take up most of your time and thought today as a young one may be ill and you will be involved in his or her recuperation process. Don't hesitate today to make room for an in-law who will stay with you for the duration of the illness and contribute professional care and advice. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Put off making any firm decisions today as the chances are good that you will not be able to make them stick, and if you have to back down, or change your position on certain matters, it could cause you a loss of prestige in the work place. Plan a quiet get together with friends tonight. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Someone you have put off confronting lately finally steps forward and forces the issue, if you stand your ground and hold fast to your convictions you may be able to make this person see reason and logic in what you have accomplished without him or her. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Visitors from afar descend on you today and catch you unpre- pared, but you are the kind of person who excels when faced with a challenge and soon have everyone settled and happy. Children may not want to give up their room, even for a short term visit, but you find bribery works wonders."}, {"response": 717, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 7, 2000 (22:31)", "body": "August 8, 20000 Aries (Mar. 21 - Apr. 20) You pride yourself on your ability to get to the bare facts of a situation. Your research may lead to discussions about new contracts and better financial opportunities on your job. What you may not realize, though, is that you're being told only part of the truth. Some aspect of your new duties may include less than ideal situations. Ask plenty of questions, and be sure that all the cards are on the table. Taurus (Apr. 21 - May 20) Don't let yourself become depressed over partnership situations. You could feel dumped on, lied to, and generally unhappy in a career situation. You may discover some conflicts between your home and your public life. It is possible that you have taken on a bit more than you can chew. If you feel that your hands are tied, postpone judgments until you uncover some facts. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Loving discussions with a partner or mate could lead to more fulfilling decisions about your home life. You could agree to take your relationship to a new level. Make time to upgrade the decor in your home to create a more romantic atmosphere. You might be wearing rose-colored glasses in regard to travel arrangements and your public life. Be realistic about how new conditions will change your life. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) You have the ability to create a fabulous aura of success in almost everything you do. Work conditions seem to take on a new glow as you plan for more ideal situations. If you can incorporate international deals into an existing framework, you may be able to write your own ticket. Just be sure you have all the facts and get all financial promises in writing. Don't hesitate to take action. Leo (July 23 - Aug. 22) Joint activity may not be what it appears to be. A partner may want to protect you from the cold, harsh truth. You may know only a part of the situation. Ask questions and conduct your own research to get to the bottom of the situation. You may have glamorized a person or projected your expectations onto someone else. You could suffer a financial setback unless you're careful to take positive action. Virgo (Aug. 23 - Sep. 22) You may want to hide your head in the sand and ignore warnings about work projects and expectations of financial reward. Someone may convince you that a gold mine is just ahead. If you do some research and confront the situation head on, you may discover hidden costs that will come out of your pocket. Be sure you're headed in the right direction. Libra (Sep. 23 - Oct. 23) You may discover that financial pressures have taken some new twists and turns. Attempt to resolve any excess expenditure that involves real estate. You may feel temporarily overwhelmed by the responsibilities inherent in a new situation. You may assume that some creative work projects will be more successful than is possible. Don't hesitate to check out the facts. Scorpio (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Take care of your health. If you suffer a setback concerning your home or property, you may suffer a temporary loss of energy, drive, and determination. You could hesitate to take action for fear of dispelling the magic of your work and career potential. Consider a slight change of direction, but postpone action until you know where to go. Romance and partnership may bring unforeseen pressures. Sagittarius (Nov. 23 - Dec. 21) Although you may appear to be perfectly happy and content on the surface, you could feel a deep sense of depression due to fatigue and pressure on the job. Your financial rewards may not be what you expected. Contractual matters need to be clarified. If you have postponed signing papers, delay action until you read the fine print. Hidden clauses could be expensive. Capricorn (Dec. 22 - Jan. 20) A sudden surge of reality may overtake you. Expectations of better financial conditions may be further out of reach than ever. Don't be discouraged. If you plan to upgrade your lifestyle and living conditions, you may have to postpone your plans for a short time. Be sure you tune in to your ability to be resourceful. Where there is a will, there is a way. You can accomplish miracles if you try. Aquarius (Jan. 21 - Feb. 18) You may be more of an idealist than you think you are. You could have expected that some communications with a partner or mate would be more idealistic than is possible. If someone punctures your fantasies, visions, and dreams, you'll be devastated. Take a more realistic, practical look at your present condition if you feel trapped. Your lifestyle and home conditions may not be ideal. Pisces (Feb. 19 - Mar. 20) It may seem that your hopes and dreams are not coming true. If you have to fight for what you want, you may not think it's worth the effort. Keep some of your fantasies to yourself while you direct your energy in an entirely different direction. You may have to deal with some competition in order to earn money. That may seem contradictory to what your dreams tell you to do. Find a balance."}, {"response": 718, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 7, 2000 (22:32)", "body": "Wolfie, read the secondone. The first one sucks!"}, {"response": 719, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 8, 2000 (12:47)", "body": "August 8, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Be careful today to pay attention to what is going on around you. There are things going on around you that can affect you and you need to stop it before it gets out of hand. Watch for an e-mail that will change your opinion about your job. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Make sure to proof your work today. If you don't, your work will be returned to you with some embarrassing typos highlighted. Take a few extra minutes to make sure the work you submit is perfect so you can go to lunch and relax. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Things seems really hectic today and you don't have the energy to cope with it. Make sure to only do what you have to do and then find time to be by yourself. This isn't a day to meet with people because you aren't on top of your game. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Ouch - some harsh words from a co-worker could upset you today. It's not worth it to cause a big commotion over this. She did enough on her own to let people know she is unjustified in her accusations. Handle this as the professional you are and don't stoop to her level"}, {"response": 720, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 8, 2000 (23:07)", "body": "August 9, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Take A relaxing walk out doors and you will find that is what is needed to lift up your spirits and relieve any stress that you may feel. You will also find that it will have a positive impact on your mood; an evening with friends completes your rejuvenation. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Try to pay off old debts before you gather up a new one. This will able you to prevent stress and worries that may occur in the future when you could be overloaded with debt and under- loaded with cash. A domestic dispute is ended today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Call a friend that you have not talked to for a while. You will find that the conversation will be refreshing and very enjoyable. You could set up a luncheon or dinner date and get reacquainted. Children will need your firm support today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today is a good day to quit that bad habit that you have been wanting to stop. You will find out that it is not as hard as you had thought it to be. You have the total will and control today that it will take to replace it with something healthy. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A quiet night at home is just what the doctor ordered. It is the perfect plan for you tonight. The relaxation will be welcomed by your body and mind. recharging your batteries is important today for a number of reasons. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Be cautious if you decide to travel today. Pay attention to what you are doing while you are on the road. Pre- vention will be your main concern today as you find your mind not concentrating on what you are doing, in all of your daily tasks, not just driving. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A temptation is likely to occur today. Keep in mind that a few minutes of pleasure or fun could badly affect you in the future. Better to give up a little pleasure than to suffer the consequences. You married for better or worse, don't make it worse by your actions. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A child will look to you for advice for a solution to a problem that he or she is having. Keep an open ear and answer honestly to the best of your ability. He or she will always be thankful that he has a person like you to talk to and he will hold this dear to his heart. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Concentrate on finishing undone projects that have been postponed. The sense of accomplishment can prove to be very rewarding. The results will turn out better than expected. Nose to the grindstone is the only accepted position for you today if you expect to get that raise. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Stubbornness could be a problem for you today. It will irritate your mate or loved one. Consideration is the best policy. This can reverse the problem and the relationship will start to bloom. Your take charge attitude comes in handy at work today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) An out of town call brings good news today. Plans for the day should involve a lot of physical activity as you seem to have an over abundant amount of energy. Try a long walk, you will find it very enjoyable and refreshing. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A new love may not be for you as this person has a long track record of short affairs and you are looking for someone to go through life with, better keep shopping around. Friends ask you out tonight and perhaps intro- duce you to someone that puts the other person right in the shade."}, {"response": 721, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 8, 2000 (23:31)", "body": "August 9, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It's a comedy of errors today. You're going to feel like you should go back to bed and start all over again. Laugh about this - you'll handle it much better if you laugh about the series of events today. By the way, make sure you have your house keys with you today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're not feeling yourself today. You're going to feel like the Universe is working against you and everything you do today seems harder than usual. While you won't get that much accomplished today, you'll actually be laying the groundwork for a bigger opportunity later on. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You need to talk out your feelings with a Gemini. It's not good to keep everything bottled up inside and it's affecting you. Get everything off your chest and you'll feel much better. Clearing the air is going to change things for the better. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces If you aren't really sure about the facts of the situation, don't fly off the handle. You may have some egg on your face if you do because things aren't always as they seem. Do your research and get all the information before getting upset and regretting it later."}, {"response": 722, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 9, 2000 (17:20)", "body": "marcia? *grin*"}, {"response": 723, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 9, 2000 (20:43)", "body": "talking to ya, Wolfie!!! August 10, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you feel the need to experience closeness with a family member. Don't shy away from this feeling. Spend some quality time with this person and you will feel the relationship be- come stronger. This person will soon open up to you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Work will be a breeze for you today. Things seem extra pleasant and you seem to be on top of the world. Share some of your feel- ings with someone around you that is not feeling real chipper; you will be extremely surprised on how your upbeat mood helped to cheer them up. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The twins are tugging on one another today. You find it a bit hard to make a decision. Let some time pass and you will find that the right thing to do is opened before your very eyes and your doubt will melt away like a snowball in the middle of June. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today is a good day to take the family and do something special with them. A movie, a dinner out, or just sitting around talk- ing will bring much needed closeness, comfort and joy. The family will seem to blossom with practicing this once in awhile. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You will hear great news from out of town today. It will be music to your ears. Your spirit is lifted and you feel like you are on top of the world. A night out with your mate brings back the passion in your life, things are looking up for you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Someone will ask a favor of you today and you will feel like it was a little too much to ask, however it will be very important for you to help this person out. If you remember the saying do onto others as you would have them do on to you you will find great peace in your spirit and you will see that it was worth helping this person. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) The scales seem to be very much in balance for you today. Work will go extremely smooth and the evening is very pleasant also. Peace and harmony go hand in hand today. You will find it very easy to plan that vacation that you have been wanting to take. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Bad news seems to have you in a gloomy mood today. The person that you consider most dear will feel your pain and will show you that you are loved very much. It seems to help bring you up to par to have this special person in your life. Hang in there you will get through this just fine. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A child in your life needs to spend some time with you today. The child may feel somewhat depressed. But you have just the right words to help him get over this. Set aside some extra time with him and you will see his mood change for the bet- ter almost instantly. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You run into an old friend today when you lest expect it. This may trigger a temptation or two but you will be strong enough to resist. A pleasant hello or a small chat is all that is needed. This person may try to get you to do something that you really don't want to do. Be strong and resist. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A recent purchase has you wondering if you may have made a mistake in buying it. Give it a second chance and you will find that it was not such a bad mistake at all. You are a bit more sensitive today than you usually are; hang in there and you will see that every thing will be just fine. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Out of town visitors keep you very busy today. You will enjoy the job of entertaining your guests but the day leaves you exhausted and you find bed time a welcome event. Your guest are very much enjoying their visit for it is one that they will remember for a long time."}, {"response": 724, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 9, 2000 (23:49)", "body": "August 10, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Is your checkbook balanced? You could be in a position where funds are low and you don't even realize it. Don't write checks until you know exactly how much you have - you don't want to get hit with fees. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It's going to be tempting to stay home today and rest. Even though you need to recharge your batteries, today isn't a day to miss work. You'll fall behind if you do and have to stay late to catch up. It's better to go into work and get through some work so you can rest all weekend. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Are you really sure you want to take on something new and crowd your schedule up even more? You aren't going to have time to do this project as well as you'd like to and it's going to reflect badly on you. Even though you don't like saying no, being honest is going to be better for your reputation for the long run. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Have you been showing your true talents? You have the personality to train and develop others. You could be a mentor to someone new. Take the time out to work with this person - it will enhance your reputation even more"}, {"response": 725, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 10, 2000 (17:28)", "body": "uh oh!"}, {"response": 726, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 10, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "Tell me about it!!!! August 11, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A loved one will be asked to do something that he or she really does not want to do. With your love and support he or she will find the task goes a lot easier. Your consideration in helping him or her through this leaves you feeling good inside, your love knows no bounds. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) The atmosphere at work will be very tense today, but try not to let it interfere with your work as it clears up by quit- ting time. A night of relaxation is just what you need to settle down. A warm bath and little quiet time will get you back on track. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You will find an expensive item that you lost awhile back. You will be on the top of the world for the rest of the day now that you found it. You will realize that more organization will help you keep up with your possessions a lot easier. Spend some free time getting organized. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you will get some advice about a pressing matter that you may be indecisive about. Don't jump on your first impulse. Give careful thought and consideration before you make any final decisions. With a little time your head will be clearer and you will be able to make a wise decision. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A family member seems very lonely today and you will be able to sense this strongly. You can come to their rescue by just sharing some time with them. The pleasure that you will find in giving your time to them will fill you up with joy. Your loved one will be very grateful to you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today that long awaited deal that you have been waiting to finalize will be complete. However there is a friend that feels neglected by you because you have let this deal con- sume your time. Now that things are settled you will feel like spending time with your friend. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you will start planning your much needed vacation. You will feel excited about getting away for awhile. Your \"all work and no play\" life is starting to catch up with you and you find that your outlook on life has improved just by thinking about it. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Out of town relatives call today just to say hello. You will enjoy the talk and make plans for a get together soon. This cheers you up and gives you a pleasure to look forward to; The day will be a joy to face and you will find pleasure in every thing that you do. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You will have a hard time keeping your chin up today. You will feel over sensitive and someone may say something that upsets you but this is not their intention. Understanding that you are very sensitive will help to ease the pain brought on by this person. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You are failing to consider your loved ones feelings today. Lighten up some and add some consideration then you can bring the joy back to your family. Focus on some activity that is fun and can involve everyone. The day will turn out better for all involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today you will finally come to an understanding involving your specific tasks at work. You experience great pleasure in get- ting the job done. Rewarding yourself by doing something that you enjoy will bring a joyful end to a busy day. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This is one day that you will get frustrated with. If you ever agreed with Murphy's Law you will find that it seems to be hap- pening today. If you drop your toast this morning, know that it will probably fall buttered side down. You will be happy once this day eases away; night time will be better."}, {"response": 727, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 10, 2000 (22:25)", "body": "August 11, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Someone isn't appreciating your hard work. He is taking advantage of your good nature and you need to set your boundaries. Even though you know he is going through a hard time, you need to let him pick himself up on his own. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It might be a good idea to get out the office for a few minutes today. See if you can take a walk so you can get rid of some stress. Buy something for yourself today - it doesn't have to be anything big. You need something to brighten your day. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra It's time to put this week in the past and attend a social event. Yes, you might be tired but this will help get you in a better mood. This will also be a great opportunity to meet some new people and develop new friendships. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Thank goodness you don't have to get dressed up today because you might be having some problems with the alarm clock. You'll make it to where you need to go on time but it will be quite an adventure getting there."}, {"response": 728, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 10, 2000 (22:27)", "body": "I have pneumonia. I am going to flake out and take my antibiotics like a good girl!! Forget about the social occasion. Wolfie, it is all yours!"}, {"response": 729, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 11, 2000 (18:16)", "body": "well, i've got a social engagement tonight but didn't find an expensive item i had lost (and i did lose something a while back). *HUGS* marcia, you get well!"}, {"response": 730, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 11, 2000 (19:02)", "body": "Thanks! This Erythromycin is in such large capsules it should either kill or cure!!"}, {"response": 731, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 11, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "August 11, 2000 Aries (Mar. 21 - Apr. 20) Keep your eye on your goals, but don't let anyone pull the wool over your eyes. Some things are not what they appear to be. Discussions may seem to go well, but after you leave the scene, you may wonder exactly what was said and agreed to. Get everything in writing that pertains to your work. That way, you'll be clear about your duties and what is expected of you. You may wish to hide your head in the sand. Taurus (Apr. 21 - May 20) Some conflict may exist between the reality of your home life and the romance and the dreams of your public life. You may have to focus on restructuring your financial situation. Some extra pressures and responsibilities require that you keep a sharp eye on expenditures. It could be difficult to tighten your belt, but with a goal in mind, it's well worth it. Focus on promotional efforts and products you can distribute. Gemini (May 21 - June 21) Additional pressure seems to come with extra responsibilities. You may enjoy being needed, but be sure to take care of your own health and energy. Adopt a health regimen and, if possible, get extra rest. A shift in your economic status may keep your nose to the grindstone. Don't be disillusioned if you have to postpone some travel plans. Stay at home and deal with details first. Cancer (June 22 - July 22) It may be time to delve deeply into your subconscious mind to learn about your relationships. Some thoughts emerge when you're by yourself that make you realize your past mistakes. You can't seem to keep them buried. Your vision of a perfect life of travel and ease may need a reality check. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water, however. Keep your dreams in sight. Leo (July 23 - Aug. 22) You have wonderful powers of observation and a great ability to put your finger on the mark. You may, however, be at odds with the vision your partners or mate have about financial matters. You are left to count the daily costs of new operations, whereas others are expecting a sea of gold to flow in. You may have to set the record straight without putting out the fire. Virgo (Aug. 23 - Sep. 22) You and your mate or coworkers may not come to an easy agreement now. You could think that other people are adopting an ostrich complex by hiding their heads in the sand. Situations at work conflict with the demands of your public life. It could appear that you have no one to help you with your responsibilities. All of your mental manipulation seems to be hidden by a calm, serene facade. Libra (Sep. 23 - Oct. 23) Conduct some market research into the viability of projects at hand. You may have fine creative instincts, but be at a loss as to how to put them across. Friends may offer advice that only wastes your time and energy. In order to avoid any legal problems, be sure you attend to the details of agreements. If your attention is on distances, leave someone in charge at home. Scorpio (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You may encounter some exciting opportunities in the communications fields. Take advantage of unusual offers. You could plan to reach out to distances, change your lifestyle, and travel to distant shores. You could be so high on life, however, that you forget to count the cost to your public life and pocketbook. Although new projects sound good and seem to gather support, you need to look closely at the details. Sagittarius (Nov. 23 - Dec. 21) Matters at a distance may require your full attention. Discussions and plans you have for writing, communicating with family members, and creating a Utopian home life may fall by the wayside in the face of real situations. Legal matters, contracts, and your public life may require some research. If you need to qualify for some kind of certification, deal with the necessary details. Capricorn (Dec. 22 - Jan. 20) You have a greater sensitivity toward the trends of the times as the Moon goes through your sign. If you feel more exposed and vulnerable, count your blessings. Your partners and mate could quickly respond to that new open quality. You may discover that a whole new world is waiting if you can open your feelings to partnership opportunities. Your ride on cloud nine may also benefit from a close look at the cost. Aquarius (Jan. 21 - Feb. 18) Events in your life might seem more serene if you take time to create a romantic atmosphere. Some strife could exist in relationships, however. You can't walk away from the differences in the way two people process thoughts. You're the right-brain visionary whereas your partner or mate has an eye on left-brain, nitty-gritty details. This combination of talents could be a winning one. Pisces (Feb. 19 - Mar. 20) Keep some goals to yourself. Plant the seeds of fantasy the way you would plant a tulip bulb. Your dreams need some time to germinate, undisturbed, in a hidden place. When you least expect them, they'll emerge as full-blown flowers. The important thing is to plant them and leave them alone. You could create ideal conditions in"}, {"response": 732, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 11, 2000 (21:16)", "body": "August 12, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Be careful that you explain things today in a clear and lucid manner as people will tend to see something different in your views if you do not present it as you perceive it to be. Never brag about the things you have acquired even if you are justly proud of them. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You have an ambitious plan for home improvement, but remember that you are only one person and can only do just so much alone. This is a good day for working on your budget and get- ting all those bills up to date and ready for mailing as soon as the first of the month rolls around. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You have learned to look at the future in a realistic manner, and will act in your own best interests when a few friends try to get you to become involved in one of their escapades and since your last experience with them you wisely back out and opt for a quiet day at home. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Since this is Saturday and you may not have to work today, you should use this time to catch up on some badly needed sleep, as you have been burning the midnight oil for quite a while now and it is sapping your energy and drive which is very noticeable at work. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) With a display of renewed optimism and courage you will be a shoo in for the first position that comes available, possibly later today, and you will always be a winner when you give free rein to these two traits of yours. You should guard against giving the wrong impression to a loved one. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Yes there is such a thing as an accident that is not your loved ones fault and this may be it so don't be so harsh in your judgment, and do be on hand to give out the hugs and reassurances. Today you may let an excellent financial opportunity pass you by unless you look sharp. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Work of a creative nature is indicated for today and you may wish to sign up for a course or even a seminar to help you toward your goals. Don't sign any legal papers without the advice of a lawyer, so if you must, wait on those until you can talk with one. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't go off on a tangent today when everything does not go according to the way you want it to, you must realize that others may have made separate plans from you and do not wish to change them. Be congenial and let your love show through as you bow to their wishes. There, that didn't hurt too much, did it? SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you place the emphasis on fun , and rightly so, con- sidering your wealth of choice when it comes to enjoyment. Try not to invite trouble today as everyone has a chance of being reasonable; you try to get each one to agree on a fun place to go; compromise another weekend to please some. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) If you combine your traits of aggressiveness with your natural charm today you will find yourself being a winner all day long. Today it would not be wise to 'shut another out' so that they cannot exercise their freedom of speech and express their opposition to your ideas. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Avoid making any type of commitment without getting the advice of experts today, and don't jump rashly into some- thing that will cost you a bundle to get out of. Do not try as hard as you usually do to get attention today as the attention that you get may not be all that good. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You take a more active role in your groups activities and emerge the natural leader of the pack. Try not to get involved in anyone's disputes today even if it is only as a judge or a peacemaker as it could backfire and both sides will turn against you. A restaurant seems the log- ical choice for dinner."}, {"response": 733, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 14, 2000 (13:27)", "body": "August 14, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is your day and tonight is your time to have a lot of fun! Consider having a get together with a few good friends. Weather permitting, a backyard Bar-B-Que sounds like fun then, on to the party. Enjoy it, the vacation won't last forever. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your friends and acquaintances ask more of you than you want to do. Feel free to say a firm no. Saying no is the best way of separating true friends from your basic hangers on. Later today your energies run high so go out and enjoy yourself but make it an early night. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) All things come to those who wait and you will find most of your answers by listening quietly. Quit worrying and take today to get out the old folding chair and lay out in the back yard with a magazine, a glass of tea, birds song, and you. Use this day off to refresh yourself. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You may have to put off your plans because friends and family place heavy demands on your time and resources today. An adult son/daughter may have problems that only you can solve so be prepared. Late afternoon brings peace and quiet, take advantage of it by resting this evening. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your sign is slated for some good news from afar today. A telephone call or letter from a good friend or family member you haven't heard from in a long time could cheer you im- mensely. Guard against doing anything rash today as this is not a good day to make a firm life decision. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Someone who has been false to you in the past is interested in getting back together again. Be careful. Caution is your keynote for today but with your sense of discernment you should uncover the truth and come through the ordeal total- ly unscathed. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Give it up and get away for a few hours. Your nerves and mental processes need that rest you have been promising yourself. Go boating, driving, or even hula hooping if you must, but get away from it all. Rainy day? If work won't allow it, catch up on your rest in the evening. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today you will feel like snapping and stinging those around you who disagree with your ideas. Put the brakes on and look deep inside for the cause of your unrest. You are cap- able of finding, facing, and defeating any shortcomings on your part that is upsetting you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Fishing, boating, and swimming seems like a good idea if you can get away, if not try to be as pleasant as possible to those around you and make the day go smooth for you and everyone else, they will love you for it. Children are particularly sensitive to your moods today CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) After a hectic day or two you should take time to recharge your batteries. Go fishing, do a little yard puttering or take a leisurely ride in the country. Whatever you do make plans to get out and enjoy the healing warmth of Gods won- derful sunshine and fresh air. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You are going to need that persistent streak you have today to fend off those who would take advantage of your time and good nature. Don't be fooled by someone you have met recent- ly or by a friend who has played you false in the past. take this today to reevaluate your priorities. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today is just right for applying your energy and drive into getting ahead on your job or any endeavor where you can ap- ply the skills you have accumulated over the years of hard work you have put in. Luck shines on you today in affairs of the heart. You could persuade that special person."}, {"response": 734, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 14, 2000 (20:49)", "body": "August 15, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Slow down today and think things through so your natural ability to read people and situations will give you all the help you need to nip trouble in the bud. Your natural charisma keeps you in big demand to the opposite sex. Don't let that special person get away. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Don't be surprised if you make some new friends today who may turn out to be some of your best assets. Love is on your mind so if you haven't already and you're a guy, pop the question. If you're a gal you are going to feel like accepting. Both should be cautious but it looks good. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A spouse may be feeling neglected and unloved. This matter should get your immediate attention. Being a faithful, loving spouse can go far in convincing him or her to have confidence in your love. A teenager, yours or a relatives, may need to have a talk with you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) It's time to buckle down and take care of business. The enterprise you began a few months ago show signs of get- ting in high gear. Involve family and friends for a real- ly resounding success. For you employees today offers a good chance to \"show what you've got\". LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Catch up on chores you have been putting off, especially those \"honey do\" jobs. Cleaning out a garage or storage shed could unearth something special to you that you thought was lost and gone forever. Evening brings no major surprises so just relax those tired muscles and unwind. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Be careful you do not have a roving eye if you are already committed to that certain someone who would not be quite as forgiving as he or she would need to be. This is not a day to fritter away so buckle down to some hard work and get caught up with things that may have been let go while you played. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A former spouse may contact you today and the news may not be welcome but with your sense of security and self worth you can weather any situations this could bring into play. Children take up a lot of your time and thoughts today. Possibly in the area of support and medical care. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't be in a hurry to brush off children today. You may be surprised what they can teach you while you are teach- ing them. Be open for your own learning opportunities. Someone at work may be jealous of your position so take them under your wing and get them involved in their own projects. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Problems that pop up today is best put on the back burner for now so that you can handle everything with your usual energy and insight. Why not consider a trip to the moun- tains. Wrap yourself up in vacation plans and let the energy flow back into your body. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Friends could pop in on you today so be prepared to have an exciting time finding out the scoop on past loves and pals. Evening could bring some depressing news but with your strong sense of self preservation you are able to erase these emotions in no time. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A new love enters your sphere of influence today and this could be THE one, so pay attention to people today. This is also a romantic day for you married ones out there. Candy and flowers say a lot and, say, why can\"t women give them too? PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) There could be some messages today that will upset you. If so you have the common sense and the spiritual in- sight to deal with it in an effective manner without hurting other peoples feelings. A grown child may need your help but you have to draw him/her out for they hesitate to burden you with it."}, {"response": 735, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 14, 2000 (23:55)", "body": "August 15, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You will have to hold up a good example today. There will be some gossip and rumor floating around you - rise about it. A Pisces will think you're being snobbish but others are wishing that the gossip would stop. You can set the trend by not listening to it. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may be feeling like an outsider today. But have you thought about whether you have put yourself on the outside? You don't need to be standing on the sidelines anymore. Get out there and become part of the group! You'll feel much better about your co-workers and yourself if you do. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're going to feel a big transition today. It will transform a part of your life. While this may seem scary to you, it's actually going to be good for your personal growth. A Gemini will be a big part of this so trust their judgment. It will be good for you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces The angels are giving you a round of applause! You have done something that is getting a lot of fanfare so be proud of what you have done. It's okay to let the boss rave about you. It has elevated you in others' eyes and in your own heart. Great job!"}, {"response": 736, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 14, 2000 (23:57)", "body": "Oh my heavens!!! Wow!!! Wolfie!!! Barcleona is the same air sign as we are!!!"}, {"response": 737, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 15, 2000 (18:06)", "body": "well, lay it on me, marcia!"}, {"response": 738, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 15, 2000 (18:24)", "body": "I was expecting you to do so to me!!!"}, {"response": 739, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 15, 2000 (21:01)", "body": "August 16, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You and a loved one may be making your moving plans today. Searching for the perfect home will take a lot of your time, but never fear, you will find it. Work will be hard pressed to keep your attention as your head is filled with financing possibilities. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Speaking with a financial advisor today could be to your advan- tage. Try not to go at things blindly, getting the facts first is your safest bet at this time. A teenager may need some extra attention now and you manage to find the time out of a busy day. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You and a partner will be in perfect agreement during the first part of the day but you will need to use a lot of patience with this person in the later afternoon. Don't accept things to be the truth that you hear from an unreliable source, check it out. CANCER (June 22-July 22) An agreement that you have been working for can be had today but only if you work extra hard at it; don't forget that flattery sometimes works. Today you have your thoughts in order and your thinking is logical and down to earth, don't let anyone throw you off track. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may come up with some creative ideas but they won't be appreciated if you are perceived of as letting your im- mediate work slide. Daydreaming is not all bad but it can be devastating on the job. Family and friends help you and the spouse celebrate your anniversary. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This is not a day that you should engage in risk taking, either financial or personal. It is a good day for mat- ters on the job, marital agreements, and working with a home based business. Children may pop up with a problem but you solve it with your logical approach. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is the day for you to buy one or two lotto tickets, take a trip on a sight seeing boat, or some other thing that you don't ordinarily do, you could get a surprise. Your means of expressing yourself today will carry you a long way in your chosen field. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't believe things you hear unless the one doing the telling can also do the proving. Second hand news is worthless and inflated. A rumor that has been designed to break up your relationship with another person is just that, a rumor. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You can have fun shopping with a friend today if you just relax and let yourself. This is not the day when you should give anyone the benefit of the doubt as you are under a deceptive trend and it would be best to check out every- thing you hear. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A raise may be in order for you as this is a good day for applying that recent knowledge you acquired for updating your job skills and thereby impressing your boss. Good news arrives after dark. Relax and enjoy your night out. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Pay no attention to a certain rumor that is going around about another friend, there is nothing to it. Listen to someone who knows more about computers than you do, he/ she will not steer you wrong and the advice could save you a lot of money on the purchase. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Got your eggs all in one basket this morning? Good. You will be asked to give an early presentation and you should be prepared. The chances are good that this can lead to that better position that you have been wanting for quite a while."}, {"response": 740, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 16, 2000 (13:42)", "body": "August 16, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Someone will show you what is really inside you today. You move past protecting yourself from others and really let yourself shine through today. Don't be afraid to show a different side of yourself - others want to get to know that side! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Make sure to pay attention to your significant other today. They need your support today. They are feeling quite run down and need some TLC. It might be a good day to send a gift or give them a backrub when they get home. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're trying to juggle too much. While right now it seems like it is under control, something else, probably small in nature, is going to come into your life and spin it out of control. Take the steps now to clear what you don't need in your life so you can feel lighter. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It may not be easy today - especially since you're going to have to go head to head with someone. This woman doesn't understand you nor want to so make sure you have all your information with you and ready to go. The angels are supporting you in this so take a deep breath and present your case."}, {"response": 741, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 16, 2000 (13:43)", "body": "250 pounds lighter, actually!!!"}, {"response": 742, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 16, 2000 (17:25)", "body": "*ROTFLMAO*"}, {"response": 743, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 16, 2000 (21:24)", "body": "Oh wolfie, I am crushed! (read your email)"}, {"response": 744, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 16, 2000 (22:58)", "body": "August 17, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You feel like you're coasting today. Your routine is very easy and you're getting through tasks with ease. Just don't get to comfortable. A challenge is coming your way so be prepared to handle it. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're going to be learning something new today. Make sure to pay attention and take careful notes. While you think this new information isn't going to be significant to you and you won't be using it, it actually is going to come back to you later. Be ready to implement. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Have you been laughing a lot lately? If not, why not? You have a great sense of humor about you and you could have a great time with others if you let yourself. Get together with friends and have a good time. You need a stress reliever and this is it! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Be very careful of those who are saying they are on your side. They have their own motives and will not be in your corner if push comes to show. Keep your guard up today and watch for the person hiding behind the mask."}, {"response": 745, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 17, 2000 (01:09)", "body": "August 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Hasty judgments you've made in the past prove to be wrong. A long lost friend shows up on your doorstep and you roll out the welcome mat. News from a far gladdens your heart as you can lay to rest certain worries you've been having. Answers ring true; they are. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Take all the time in the world to finish an important project today. A good friend asks you for financial help and you give it. An offer may be made to you today and you should evaluate it very carefully as it may not seem too lucrative now, but it shows great promise. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You should keep an optimistic attitude today even in the face of troubles. Things change and this also must pass. Talk your career plans over with a spouse or spouse to be, as they will affect them as much as you in the long run. Travel today will be beneficial. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A foreign assignment may take some of you overseas, so this will be a day of hustle and bustle as you prepare everything, passports, visas, etc., for the big event. If possible, plan to take a spouse along as you may be gone quite a while. Others will find much excitement on different levels in the workplace today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your recent business investment is beginning to show signs of becoming a success and so you look for similar invest- ments to make. Be sure to do your homework on each one and don't over extend yourself in this area. A good evening for spending with old friends and talking over the past. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) An Aries hits you with a new idea for an innovative enter- prise that takes you by surprise. Its very simplicity should assure you of an almost overnight success. Keep up your health regimen and try walking as much as possible to tone up your cardiovascular circulation. Vitamins, anyone? LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Joining a new club is a good way to make new friends and widen your circle of acquaintances while adding to your networking pool. Don't let a new boss intimidate you. Stay respectful, but adhere to your ideas as they are the reason you were hired in the first place. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Although you may be single, you also have to play by the rules and not pursue someone who is already committed to another. Married Scorpios should have no trouble with a wandering eye as long as it wanders towards home. Your moral values may be given a spiritual test this after- noon. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Sagittarius, half human, half centaur, and all leader of the pack. Younger ones have it in their power today to lead their companions away from trouble and into good clean fun, while you older ones turn up as leaders of their communities and role models. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Try to shore up a degenerating marriage with lots of love and understanding along with a long talk to clear up what each one needs and expects from the other. This will go far in recreating the atmosphere of love and harmony necessary in all marriages. Children will benefit from this. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your love life should be noticeably picking up (provided you are single). Married people will feel more drawn to- wards a loved one. You will do well today at work, and will abound with positive new ideas. Be careful that those around you do not start to grow resentful or jealous. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your energies are around normal levels, but your logical reasoning ability will be enhanced. Take advantage of this time by addressing the most important areas of your life that require this type of logical approach. You will also do well in your relationships today."}, {"response": 746, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 17, 2000 (01:10)", "body": "Terry , Check your email!!!"}, {"response": 747, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Aug 17, 2000 (13:32)", "body": "I did, and I fixed it! From the leader of the pack."}, {"response": 748, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 17, 2000 (16:49)", "body": "MAHALO"}, {"response": 749, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 17, 2000 (16:52)", "body": "I just check with the Google search which found it in the first place and it leads to a Yapp error page. Thanks so much!!!"}, {"response": 750, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 17, 2000 (16:56)", "body": "I just sent a thank you note to Kaylene for her help!!!"}, {"response": 751, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 18, 2000 (11:44)", "body": "August 18, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Aggravations triggered by people and events beyond your control tends to keep you on edge today. Your inability to control your world is not devastating at this time, soon you will be front and center again. Slowly but surely you see things turn in your direction. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Shy people miss out on just about everything and with your personality you are not cut out to be a patient person. Today you grab for the gusto when you get your friends together and plan an enjoyable time on the nearest beach. Keep the fun sober and clean and arrive alive. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Dual Gemini may be hit with double barreled problems today, as the two people between whom you have been trying to choose both call for a firm commitment from you. The chances are good that today you will lose them both as one finds out about the other. next time---one at a time. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A brother calls on you for help and you saddle up and ride to the rescue. You can and do make a difference in this persons life, gaining the whole hearted love and respect from your brother which, in the past, had been lukewarm at best. A flurry of weekend plans getting ready for that magical Monday morning. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone who blamed all their troubles on you in the past has seen the light of truth, and now knows that it wasn't you who authored his/her woes. Your family needs more of your time today and you find a special joy in sharing things with them. Don't go to bed without an \"I'm sorry\". VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) An older member of your family, perhaps a father, calls you today and you feel a sense of relief after hearing from him her. Take care of your health as you are prime for a new virus that's going around. Could be just ragweed pollen, check it out to be sure. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Libra is headed for the mountains and so are the whole family. You believe in sharing the good times and today is a real good time after a great week at work. Don't let anyone change your future plans and rain on your parade. You are on the right track with your investment ideas. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't go out and spend a lot of money on things just to im- press others. Give yourself a well earned reward and buy something decadently expensive just to please yourself. Be sure to take along your other 'half' and buy him/or her something just as expensive, but--- (maybe on sale?). SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You feel out of sorts today due to the actions of an uncar- ing relative who may not show any concern for you as he/she acts put out because you cannot do your usual chores for them. This opens your eyes and you put a stop to them, permanently. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your hat in the political arena could cause quite a stir at this time. Try to keep your plans under wraps as long as possible and then spring it on everyone. A person you meet today could become that all important one for you, as you are swept off your feet. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A former loved one may claimed to have changed but it is rare that one ever changes who has been inflicting spousal abuse. The stars are right for you to tell him politely to take a hike. Your friends applaud your good sense in making the right decision and getting on with your life. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Someone close to you will confide her/his love and dreams to you today and you are amazed. You have wanted to open up to this person but you were sure she/he cared more for someone else, but now you are on cloud nine and the two of you start on your wedding plans."}, {"response": 752, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 18, 2000 (11:46)", "body": "August 18, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You might not want to be around other people today. You need that positive energy so get out there and have fun! You'll be surprised at the new people you'll meet. Also, a new Capricorn friend will be able to give you some ideas to make your job easier. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You need one more piece of the puzzle and it is complete. You'll find all the information you need to make your decision. An Aries will be part of this decision - you'll have to determine what their motives are. Keep your eyes open. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're finally feeling more in balance with yourself but you still have work to do. Even though it is wonderful you are feeling better, don't stop the development of yourself. You need to keep working at creating harmony and joy with yourself. It will shine through and create harmony with others. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Don't let someone impose their judgments on you. While they might think they know what's best for you, thank them and send them on their way. You know what is right from wrong - now stand up for it. Take care of yourself and don't let someone tell you how to be. You know yourself the best."}, {"response": 753, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 18, 2000 (11:47)", "body": "Wolfie, Neither one is good for today. I think I shall go back to bed and hope tomorrow's is better. It is Admissions Day in Hawaii and a holiday."}, {"response": 754, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 18, 2000 (21:01)", "body": "August 19, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is good day for taking it easy and relaxing those Arian nerves. Afternoon will find you out and about looking for some entertainment; be careful that you do not search in the wrong places for it. Family and friends could benefit from a visit with you today. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Being as stubborn as a bull today could be your undoing with a loved one if you do not temper your stubbornness with a lot of logical whys. A little compromise on both sides could save your relationship. Try to go out and relax this evening. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A wonderful day for entertaining out of town friends with a trip on the lake in your boat, (your pride and joy), or even a day spent at the beach would be great entertainment. A family member may have a problem that only you can help with, pay attention to this person. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A new job seems to be working out well for you now and you find yourself more relaxed today than you have been in a long time. Take advantage of this good mood and take the family out for some fun and games, they will have a good time and you will have a good memory. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A particularly needy person or child has touched your heart today and you freely open your home to that person. Family members are with you all the way on this one and they help you help this person. A special outing may be in order today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Someone who misses you a lot needs to be contacted, probably a parent or a child. You have had a busy week and today you plan your recreation around strictly leisure time, such as sacking out in the lawn chair watching your neighbor work. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A new position you have been given with your company is not exactly what you wanted for yourself but it will work out to be the best spot of all for you. A teenager may need your help now and you pull out as many of the stops as you can to help her. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) It is advisable to keep your special pet indoors today as there may be a chance of danger to it. This would be a per- fect day to go hiking or boating as you recharge your energies for another week on the job. Nothing strenuous today, just take whatever you do slow and easy. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A child or grandchilds' welfare may be preying on your mind; relax, you have done all that you can and now you must simply hang in there while the powers that be move on it. This would be a good day to relax and simply read a nice book. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A good time was had by all but now you are decidedly not feel- ing up to par. This would be a good day to disappear to your favorite private spot or retreat so you can be alone and quiet; next time don't overindulge. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) High living is bound to catch up with everyone sooner or later and today it is sooner with you. This would be a good day to return those expensive, non-essential purchases you made yesterday and badly bent the budget. Over indulging in food or drink could also be a problem for you today. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A good friend will tell you her secrets today and she is count- ing on you to keep them secret so be careful that you don't spill the beans to another 'friend' and cause unnecessary trouble for this person who trusts you so much."}, {"response": 755, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 18, 2000 (21:03)", "body": "Wolfie!!! We are stuck with a \"family member\" tomorrow! Again!!!"}, {"response": 756, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 20, 2000 (22:57)", "body": "August 21, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A few good ideas from a good friend who has been keeping an eye on your project, or home based business, may be just exactly what you have been looking for. When this person starts to talk about it be sure to listen as you will only get the one chance before he/she clams up. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) An unexpected guest shows up out of the blue and you find your- self pressed for time and space but you do not let this daunt you as you make room for one more. Children may feel out of sorts and a little jealous today but you deal admirably well with them. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your mind will be on research today and you find you have a brainstorm about it that turns it into a new inspired form of work, or method of research, that will get you to your goal faster. Talking with project managers will be helpful for you today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Dealings with the public is favored today as your charisma is showing, and you will have a greater response to your ideas than you have had in the past. You will have a small domestic dispute in the evening after a rough day at work. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Do not take everything you hear today as literal truth, pretend you are from Missouri, ( show me attitude), as there is a good chance of deception in your affairs now. This is also not a good day to lend money as you may never see it again. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This appears to be your day for inspiration, creativity, and even contracts as your ability to express yourself is at its optimum today. Talking with financial managers and partners are also highly favored at this time. A family conference is called and you get your two cents worth in. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is not a good day at all for gambling pursuits as there could be losses in risk taking for you. Domestic activity should be of great interest to you tonight as your spouse may have quite a surprise for you. Don't faint! SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Creative, and inspired ideas are yours in the afternoon but daydreaming at work is not recommended today as this could possibly cause you to have an accident if you work around any type of machinery by becoming absent minded at the wrong time. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Love is in your heart, but down to earth basics is in your mind; a domestic dispute has the wheels turning but you act in a practical manner in making up with your spouse. express the love and not the mind if you hope to win this one. A raiseor bonus could be yours on this day. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today your partner agrees with you and you finally go ahead and implement the changes you knew would be necessary and had ready to go. This would be a good day to take financial risks, as everything holds the possibility of gain today when it comes to money. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Be careful you do not overdo the spending and max out the new credit card you just received. If you do max it out now, it becomes just another monthly debt and you've lost the advan- tage of having it. A good move at work puts you on top. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) One of those rare days when you can call your life and your time your own and everything seems to click into place for you. You will find it easy today to finalize plans and agreements you have been involved in and even the children are acting like angels."}, {"response": 757, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 20, 2000 (22:58)", "body": "Watch out, World...here I come!!!"}, {"response": 758, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 20, 2000 (23:52)", "body": "August 21, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're feeling scattered today. It's almost like you are walking around in a fog. It would be a good idea to take things slow today. Don't make any hasty decisions -- you'll forget to take an important fact into account. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Today is going to be hectic because you are one of the few people at work who can get things done. Even though things need to get out, make sure you double check your work. You don't want a boss to see typos. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Do not procrastinate on a project. You'll get a surprise request to see what is going on with it before deadline. Make sure you have some work to show them. Your work will give your boss and new idea and move the project into a new direction. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Take the time today to make sure your files are backed up today. Your computer is going to be acting funny and you don't want to loose any data. If you don't, you're going to loose a lot of information and hard work on a project."}, {"response": 759, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 21, 2000 (00:02)", "body": "Still trying to figure out who my boss is... I know who thinks he is... Hah!"}, {"response": 760, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 21, 2000 (00:09)", "body": "Sorry... Lapse of professionalism there. It is lonely here tonight!"}, {"response": 761, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 21, 2000 (00:10)", "body": "Impossible to forget!"}, {"response": 762, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 21, 2000 (18:35)", "body": "well, i got a lot of work done today!"}, {"response": 763, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 21, 2000 (19:59)", "body": "August 22, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) It is perfectly natural to feel an attraction for a person that you were once head over heels in love with, but just because you must now work together on a family situation try not to make the same mistake twice. It would be best not to pursue these feelings. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today is just one of those days where everything seems to go right for you and you couldn't lose if you tried. This could be a good day to try your hand at a few bingo games; don't go overboard as it could change at any time and you would become the big loser. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your true love returns to you with love and forgiveness in his or her heart. A big kiss and an \"I'm sorry\" will mean a lot. A resolution to change your ways will keep you true from here on out as you now know who you want. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your charisma sees you through your trying day with most of the problems on the inside and not obvious to the world. You will see the right way to go to the heart of the matter and win this round as well as get your true love back. Fol- low your psychic faculties to the limit. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is not a good day to let go of the reins of control on anything. It is a day best spent keeping a low profile to the world. Not that anything awful seems slated to happen to you in the duration of your day, but today could be your day to fall under 'Murphy's law'. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Hang out at the water cooler today and try to keep an ear open, you will be surprised at the helpful information that you may be able to pick up in this way. Maybe even a winning tip. Parties are great for some today but you would do better reserving them for the weekend. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Unsettling news today may not be the best way of letting you know where you stand on certain family issues, stand up for your rights; if you don't, nobody will stand up for you; you could give the impression of not caring enough. Friends are supportive of your feelings. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Grabbing the brass ring today will be easier if you prac- tice teamwork on the job. That way everyone has an equal chance, in order for your team to do well you must use those leadership qualities that you are so well known for. Don't let anyone get you down today as there is always one in every crowd. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Bringing your work up to date and catching up on those back orders are of great importance to you today as you have put them off until the desk is full. If your business has grown sufficiently it would be a good idea to invest in a full time employee. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You can take it or leave it alone, and today you choose to leave a certain thing alone no matter how much you do not wish to. In the long run you will see that this is the smartest move you have ever made. A business rival is close on your heels now; better step up the pace. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) People may think you are a little off your rocker today but you have your own ideas about how things should be done and these ideas are not along the conventional way, pay no attention to the 'sleepers' as some people are the wide awake inventors of the future. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You are much harder on yourself than others could ever be, but soon your spirit shines through the gloom and takes you to the winners circle. Try to forgive the little mis- take someone made today for it is too small to let it cause you any unrest."}, {"response": 764, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 21, 2000 (20:50)", "body": "Oh Wolfie, what does that mean?!"}, {"response": 765, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 22, 2000 (15:22)", "body": "August 22, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A new opportunity is presented to you by someone you least expect. It may look like the perfect opportunity, make sure to find out what the motives are of the person presenting it to you. In the long wrong, who will this actually benefit? FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius An unexpected social event presents itself to you. While you don't have the energy to meet new people, put your best face forward. You'll have a great time and it will help you earn points with an influential Scorpio. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra While it's always nice to make yourself feel better, don't go overboard. If you do that, you're going to create a bigger problem for yourself. Something unexpected will come up and you won't have the resources to take care of it if you do. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A decision comes down that disappoints your today. Handle it with grace. This is actually going to benefit you in the long run but you are going to have to stay where you are for a while. Don't be bitter about what happens -- you're going to benefit from this."}, {"response": 766, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Aug 22, 2000 (18:39)", "body": "huh? and who is my true love?"}, {"response": 767, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 22, 2000 (20:57)", "body": "*grin* was wondering that for myself, too... August 23, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) If he is really your friend then he would not care how much money you have in the bank or how much you paid for your new car; a true friend cares about your health and your happiness. Jealousy in all its forms smells bad; you'd do well to drop that 'friend'. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Be a good listener today and you will learn things that you may very well need to know to survive the rat race. Gossip, while never pretty, can be pretty informative right about now. A child may be on the verge of getting into trouble, talk to him. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Too many worries over the things you have no control over can make you depressed and gloomy, accept that there are some things beyond even your control and go on with your life. A family friend offers you some very good advice and you realize it is good advice to take...eventually. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A loved one is about to make you proud of him or her as the accomplishment by him or her may seem small in their own eyes the accolades are not. In time even the worst domestic disputes are cleared up and you will see yours begin to wind down today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You feel like running around in happiness, because your marriage proposal has been accepted and you are ecstatic. Friends give you a party and everyone you know turns out for the fun. Make it an early night; work tomorrow. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A demanding boss may not make for a pleasant day but you manage to do what is expected of you and then some. This person may not be with the company much longer and this could have a lot to do with his attitude, remember, all things come to he who waits. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your people skills are excellent as you are the one sent to solve the problems today. You have proven your ability so many times that now you will get the raise in salary and name to the position that you have been occupying all along. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A new partner puts the life back in your business and there may even be a romantic interest attached to this enterprise. A good day to be careful on the highway if you have to be out and about, so use extreme care when driving. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) It is best if you meet your problems head on today and talk to the people who have been causing you so many problems, The situation will not go away by itself and they will be more apt to listen to you if you show yourself to be honest and above board with them. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) There is no need to put others down or cause them aggra- vation in order to get things to go your way, a quiet dignity is what suits you best and when you apply it you usually get you own way. Financial institutions are easier to deal with today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Family and friends need your companionship and you take the time to be with them. Don't get angry with some co- workers as they are not yet experienced. A recent sur- prise for you has you tuned into the academic life and your efforts will be rewarded. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Try to be very careful about whom you play mind games with today as you could find yourself the loser. A new love may not go for the hot and cold treatment and you can scare this one off before you know it. A message from afar brings you some good news."}, {"response": 768, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 22, 2000 (20:59)", "body": "Wolfie, bet the advice you get is the same as I get...*grin*"}, {"response": 769, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 22, 2000 (23:18)", "body": "August 23, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Have you been shopping for new clothes lately? You should buy some new outfits soon. You're going to need to upgrade and update your wardrobe because you'll be in a position where you'll have to dress up more often. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Have you been neglecting the household chores? It might be easier to sit on the couch but take some time today to get the little things done. An important lost item is going to be found today. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Laughter is the best medicine. You're a natural comedian so making someone laugh is an effortless for you. You'll find that you'll feel better too. Your boss is taking notes on your effort to be a team player and help others. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Even though you are down, give yourself a pat on the back today. It's true that things wouldn't be as efficient or run as well without you. People know what you do, even though you don't toot your own horn."}, {"response": 770, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 23, 2000 (17:10)", "body": "yeah, esp. when everytime i turn around she's asking me to help someone else like i have nothing to do. that's ok, i don't mind helping people."}, {"response": 771, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 23, 2000 (17:29)", "body": "*grin*... Especially some people... You are not only helpful but kind, loyal, tustworthy...(well, two out of three...)*Hugs*"}, {"response": 772, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 23, 2000 (19:12)", "body": "two out of three?"}, {"response": 773, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 23, 2000 (21:53)", "body": "4 out of 3 I meant to write... August 24, 2000 (Happy Birthday, John in Toronto!) ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) With most of the time consuming planning, invitations, shopping, and so forth out of the way you are squared away and ready for the wedding. Take care today that you do not forget to send someone an invitation, it could hurt that persons feelings badly. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your day will be filled with joy and laughter today as the new arrival has the whole family in a happy dither. The boss is so pleased for you that he gives you the day off to enjoy the advent of the new member of the clan. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) This is not a good day to make plans of a permanent nature, or make a major purchase as the stars show a possible loss for you in this area. A spouse has his, or her, heart set on doing something special today and you give in although it is not your idea of fun. CANCER (June 22-July 22) If travel is on your agenda, be very careful. you have an enjoy- able day as old friends and rarely seen family spends the day just dropping by. You could run into employee problems at work as you make up the schedule, you know you can't please them all but you try. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A good day at work is topped off with an excellent evening with the family, friends and relatives. You must keep your mind centered on your work during office hours to avoid any slip up that could cause you a loss of prestige and position. Let the office clown, clown alone. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You find your time is in short supply between working on one project at home for yourself, and another at work for your employer so this is a good time to enlist some in-house help. Today could be very hectic for you today as the boss chooses your office to hold the annual meeting. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Love is in the air as your sweetheart sets the date for the wedding and you are very happy over this. This is a good day at work for you as there is a distinct chance of a raise when the boss hears your plans. Pay close attention to a child when it tells you something. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A lot of you will be traveling today and the since the summer- time traffic is really bad drive carefully. Today at work will be good as there is not much backed up to do and this gives you plenty of time to take care of personal things you have had to put off. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You will spend most of your day on a certain project as you feel it must be just right to present to the boss in the afternoon. You may get a surprise today as you talk to a relative and find out that you are both planning to start the same kind of business. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Problems at work may be getting on your already frayed nerves, and you should make yourself stay in your quite, calm center so none can knock you off balance and cause a threat to your career. Loved ones may also be argumentative, but a little compromise should save the day. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Don't let anger and resentment spoil your fun today as you will be exposed to people who are pessimistic at the best, don't try to cheer them up, just leave them be; they like it they way they are. A good friend needs you so don't throw this person out with the others. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A small problem could arise today for you but nothing that you can not handle with ease, if you don't let it get to you. Stay calm, and collected, and you will be able to handle it all. A loved one may have you pulling your hair out now but that too will come out good at the end."}, {"response": 774, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 23, 2000 (22:26)", "body": "August 24, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn While you think your day isn't going to well, a family member calls you with some good news today. This news will lift a worry off your shoulders and make you feel better. This has been a project that has been a long time in the works and it has finally paid off. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You'll be winning friends and influencing people today. However, you will find that a coworker is going to get jealous of this. Don't be surprised if you heard then talking about you behind your back. No worries, though, everyone sees through this person. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're having concerns on how your development is going. Express these concerns to a higher-up today. You've been doing the right thing by taking initiative to ask questions and learn new things. A Leo will reassure you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You will be in a meeting today that will feel rather tense. You have nothing to worry about -- you have all the information that is needed. A Libra will be upset at you because you upstage them but that's their fault."}, {"response": 775, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 23, 2000 (22:27)", "body": "Watch out, Wolfie!!!"}, {"response": 776, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 24, 2000 (18:08)", "body": "well, i wonder....the am has no plans that i'm aware of, oh, unless it's......"}, {"response": 777, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 24, 2000 (23:10)", "body": "*grin* August 25, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Guard against being a pest today as others may not want to do the same things you want to. Take the time to think out your actions before you carry them out. A new employee surprises you by helping you out with a good idea. Before committing to buying anything large, be very careful. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Do not \"cast your pearls before swine\" today, in other words, talking about philosophy to those who would mock you may cause an inner emotional crisis. Luck is in the stars for you, but luck of a more spiritual nature. Use your intuition today when meeting someone new. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Someone you know may be in danger and you can clearly see the problem and this makes you able to help this person; do not hesitate to assist him or her. Your financial life is looking up today as a loan you have been looking for comes through. Love is in the air today for some of you single Capricorns. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Being honest with a loved one about an indiscretion will be the best way to solve your mutual problem. The chances of saving the relationship is very high if you are calm and reasonable in your approach. Life seems to be moving at a faster pace, and you need to rise to the challenge. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Stay in control today, as you do not want to aggravate or offend others, especially in the work place. Your psychic energies are high but more along the lines of being able to convince others to see your way as the best way to do something. Use this power sparingly. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Your love of fine things is more obvious than ever today, as you may turn into a spendthrift buying new things for your home. Do not make a loved one mad at your extravagance. Love is in the air for you singles in a big way. For the married, a time to reaffirm your vows. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Librans are in a state of psychic awareness today. You can almost finish the sentences others speak to you. Luck is also in the air for you and you may find things falling in- to place nicely. Do not put things off today that needs fin- ishing, it may be your undoing. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Be careful not to step on too many toes today as some of the foot owners may step right back on yours! Your ideas are sharp and bright, and you are about to get noticed. Be careful not to take the credit from those who hire and fire, they will resent it. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You get a good idea for a new project, but thinking it over you reject it. Re-think it. Some ideas are worth a lot that at first may seem un-workable. This is the perfect day to send flowers and candy to a loved one who may be feeling a little depressed. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) this is a good day to look into buying that new home. Your powers of charisma and intuitiveness are at their peek. This will make it hard for anyone to get one up on you. You may want to try your hand at investing as well. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may be longing to move back to your old home town but this may not be the best idea. You must remember that the past is behind you and the future is where you want to turn your eyes. You truly can never go \"back\". Your best friend is preparing to make a big mistake...help him or her. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today may bring on a desire for change and these changes will be reflected in your every move. The future is very bright for you so be very careful that you do not breach your own ethics today as this could have disastrous ef- fects on your overall standing."}, {"response": 778, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 24, 2000 (23:11)", "body": "August 25, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You are going to be the hero today. A crisis at work will be alleviated because of your quick thinking. Not only are you going to help solve the problem but you'll relax and reassure everyone in the process. An Aquarius is thoroughly impressed. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You hate running late but there is nothing you can do about it today. Since it's out of your hands, take a few deep breaths and try to be calm. You'll get to your destination eventually -- it'll be better to present yourself calm than frantic. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra There is a lot of gossip floating around the office today. You should probably set the record straight before things get out of hand. Be diplomatic, however. If this elevates, you don't want to be eating your words. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Brainstorm today on how you can reach some of the goals you're been working on. It's great to talk about it but now is the time to do it. Create a plan to get the resources you need to get things moving -- you need to get moving."}, {"response": 779, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 25, 2000 (17:29)", "body": "why were capricorns mentioned in our reading, marcia? and today went great!"}, {"response": 780, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 25, 2000 (17:32)", "body": "only know one capricorn - MIKE!!!"}, {"response": 781, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 27, 2000 (12:43)", "body": "September overview The beginning of the month find the Sun in Virgo and Mars in Leo. Following their prescribed and ordained routes, the end of the month finds these two objects progressed to the Sun in Libra and Mars in Virgo. Jupiter is slowing down to a crawl as he is \"just fixin'\" to go retrograde, but he doesn't actually turn around until the very end of the month. In the middle of the month, however, stuck at the gateway into Gemini, Saturn does go backwards. Of course, relative to our home here on Earth, Saturn's movement is minimal. Venus swings all the way through Libra this month, as does Mercury. Wonder what all this means to you? Secure, online ordering is available on the web site, get your own chart done there: http://www.astrofish.net Aries : I'm looking at a series of conflicting prognostications right now, and I figure I can boil it all down to one word: romance. Don't get confused by romance and relationships this month. In fact, a little extra care would be useful with handling romantic interludes, your feelings, that hot burning passion, and all the stuff the romantic poets write about. There is one Aries who will reply to me, and pointedly direct my attention to the fact that there is no romance in that one Aries life right now. But other than that one person, the sign as a whole is in good standing. But I would caution you to approach this romance with a degree of trepidation. As much as you want to fling yourself into this burning BBQ pit of \"love,\" I wonder if you don't want to back up, and perhaps grab a pair of oven mitts -- asbestos lined oven mitts -- to handle this emotional firecracker. There's a good chance that you might just forget everything else, and focus on one person a little too much. That excludes the other stuff which is happening, and you might miss something important. So do your best to get a decent set of BBQ tongs, if not heavy oven gloves, to handle this moment of fiery passion. It will keep you from getting blistered by the heat. Taurus : This is only a test, not the real event, but this month, this time in your life, it has a chance to give you an overall flavor about that which is important in your life. If you're on a fairly decent track, if you're moving forward at a pace that is comfortable for you, if things are where they are supposed to be, then this little test called, \"September, 2000\" will present no challenge. But I seriously doubt that we are all on a pathway, a destiny in life that is so clear. So get ready to take the test. Get ready to see if you are really sure about what it is that you're doing in life. It's like trying out a new fishing lure, you've read about it in the magazine -- this new design of lure is supposed to work wonders. You're up before dawn, and down at the lake, boat's in the water, and you're ready to try your new piece of equipment. After close to an hour of no luck, you switch back to old faithful, and you get a strike on the first cast. That's the hint with this month, you would surely berate yourself for years if you don't try that latest new gimmick, but if it doesn't work, don't be afraid to go back to the old ways which have been proven to work over time. Gemini : You've been warned about what is going on this month for some time now. It's not like this isn't some new concept. But there are a couple of astrological events that need to be looked at. One of them is Saturn, who stands at the doorway to Gemini all month. First he puts one foot in the door, then he retracts that foot. What he's doing is calling your attention to an area of your life that needs some fairly drastic changes. We can make this easy, or we can all struggle with it, but Saturn is merely letting you know that he's there, and he's going to eventually force some change. Make it as easy or hard as you desire. Then there's Jupiter, and you've had a good taste of what he can do. Finally, there's a strange little hint that comes in sometime this month, and that's a good little hit from Venus. The planet of love, though, is not nearly as strong as the other movers and shakers in the sky, so it's up to you to maximize what Venus does. Sometimes, you feel like you're not getting ahead when, in fact, you are moving forward. That's what this month is about: realize what gains you are making, and use them. Don't belabor the energies which seem to be expended on useless attempts to get ahead. Cut your losses and move on. Cancer : The world is supposed to be a better place by now, but things in the Cancer camp of life just don't seem to be getting a lot better. It's as if there's a slow and gradual downhill slide that's going on this month. While it is certainly not disastrous, it does feel like there's a problem or two. One or more of my dear Cancer friends will write to me this month and ask, \"Is Mercury Retrograde again?\" No, that's not the case in this situation. But the effects of the month are going to feel a little bit like that. Mercury is communication"}, {"response": 782, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 27, 2000 (23:17)", "body": "August 28, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today should run smoothly for you as you have completed all the do ahead chores, and now you are set to take the day off. A problem could arise for you but nothing that you can not handle with ease, if you don't let it get to you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Don't let anger and resentment spoil your fun today as you will be subjected to several people who seem to be getting 'on your case' and this could wear you down if you let it. You may want to see less of these people until they get over what may be bothering them. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Small problems at work may be getting on your frayed nerves, and you should make yourself stay in your calm center so none can put you off balance and cause a threat to your career. Loved ones may also be argumentative, but a little compromise should save the day. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your day will be taken up with plans for your wedding, and you will spend most of your week on this project as you feel it must be just so since you plan on doing this just once so you do it right.Out of town, late arrivals will not give you pause, as you have wisely planned ahead for just such an occurrence. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A good day at work is topped off with an excellent evening with the family, friends, and relatives. Although this is your favorite pastime you must keep your mind on what you are doing during office hours to avoid any slip up that could cause you a loss. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) At work you should delegate someone to complete some of your projects that are in danger of getting stale, as you find your time is in short supply between working on one project at home for yourself, and another at work. Get your nose off the grindstone and go out for awhile. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Love is in the air as your sweetheart sets the date for the wedding, and you are ecstatic over this. A round of parties lure you out of your daze and into having some good, clean, fun. This is a good day at work for you as there is a dis- tinct chance of a raise today. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) The traffic is really bad out there today so start early on your vacation trip. Have your car serviced and ready, be sure the tires are new, or close to it, and if you are not staying with friends or relatives, then call ahead for reservations, then....have a happy one. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) If travel is on your agenda today, be very careful, but those of you who plan to spend your vacation at home will also have a very enjoyable time as an old friend drops by today after work, and gives you all the news. You can't please everyone but you try, even offering to take on someone elses respon- sibility. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Watch your spending habits today. This is not a good day to plan, or make a major purchase as the stars show a possible loss for you in this area. A spouse has his, or her, heart set on doing something special today and you give in although it is not your idea of fun. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Having received the greatest gift in the world, you burst with joy, making today the happiest you have ever had. Your day will be filled with joy and laughter and loads of visitors! Just be sure they do not tire you (or the mother)out. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) With most of the time consuming shopping, and so forth out of the way you are squared away and ready for the fun to begin. Take care today that you do not speak in a manner about someone that could wound that person as he/she is very sensitive. Better look back over the list to find some missing names."}, {"response": 783, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 27, 2000 (23:35)", "body": "Yikes, Wolfie, this one was for today and it did not get here till after I posted tomorrow's!!! ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A child may not want to follow the rules and this may require discipline. Don't be too harsh with this person as growing up all at once can be pretty scarey, make sure the small crime fits the punishment. The rest of the family will help you follow through on the grounding if you do it sensibly. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Someone you like very much may be asking a bit much with this latest request. If you always smooth the way for this person then he/she will never become responsible for his or her actions. There is a time and place for everything and if you think about it, this is not the time. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Letting a loved one know that they are free to handle their own life and walk their own path will sometimes become the cement needed to keep everything running smoothly on the home front. Understanding and tact will go the extra mile for you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your love interest may be waiting for you to ask that impor- tant question and if you tarry too long you may find someone else has come along while you were busy trying to decide. If you are married you may find that even the smallest of lies will get you in hot water today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A commitment that you have with a friend over a business matter may fall flat on its face today as the friend signals that he or she is ready to back out. The best course here would be to let them, as nothing will be suc- cessful if everyone is not in total agreement, or at least the disagreements are so small that both can live with them. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A position with a new company will give you a leg up on your career goals when you put your mind to it. This is a caring company and you could find working conditions to be very good. Friends come to your aid tonight when they hear you need a helping hand to move a relative. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Librans are in a state of psychic awareness today. You can almost finish the sentences others speak to you. Luck is also in the air for you and you may find things falling into place nicely. Do not put things off today that needs finishing, it may be your undoing. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your new job could put you into debt if you try to 'keep up with the Jones' ', so just be yourselves, no one is comparing you. An idea of some importance is coming together today as you begin to finalize your plans for marriage. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Don't be moody and long suffering with a spouse just because you are normally quiet when you are opposed; today you should take a stand against unjust treatment. tell him or her your views and hold your ground. You will be respected and loved for this, even if you think it can't happen. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today you are in such a fine fettle that you just radiate self confidence and charisma. You are so high on life tha you find it easy to forgive those who have hurt you in the past. Come down to earth with the rest of us, at least for a little while as you may have forgiven the wrong one. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Strongly independent you've been called and today is the day you should let this independence work for you against those who would keep you from realizing your dreams. Brook no interference as you carry on and you will reap many financial rewards in the near future. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Aries the ram never knows when to holler uncle. The original never say die individual that lives by the rule that when the going gets rough, the tough roll up their sleeves and smoothes it out, (or will die trying). This attitude makes you highly respected today and may even generate some fear in your few enemies."}, {"response": 784, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 27, 2000 (23:36)", "body": "August 28, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're comparing your work to other people in the office. Why? You're a cut above the rest so don't be down on yourself. Even if your boss hasn't told you lately, you're doing a really great job! It's enough to make a Pisces jealous of you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The last piece of the puzzle has been given to you. Now, a huge project you have been working on has finally come to completion. Give yourself a pat on the back because you've done a great job. A Scorpio is very proud of you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Why are you hoarding your gifts today? While it is a good idea to conserve energy and resources, you might be going overboard. This could be a good opportunity for you today because if you give, you will receive. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Be careful of putting your judgment on someone else. You don't know the whole situation and you could be forming an opinion without all the facts. There are things behind the scene you don't know about so reserve your judgment until a later date."}, {"response": 785, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Aug 28, 2000 (09:08)", "body": "Just about finished with the porch addition and the pool is nearly done. So that fire element is pretty right on for today."}, {"response": 786, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 28, 2000 (12:14)", "body": "Excellent. You have had spontaneous combustion type temperatures lately, I am sure it is really dry and everything tinder-dry. Good for you!"}, {"response": 787, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 28, 2000 (22:58)", "body": "August 29, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your day will be a calm one for a change. A good idea you once had seems too good to waste so you revise it everything runs smooth for you. Friends and relatives are happier to be with you now that your nerves are more settled. Don't let things get to you today and stir them back up. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is not a good day to do any extravagant spending unless you need to purchase necessities, in that case, bargain hunt- ing just came back in style. The plans you have been working on show signs of becoming a working possibility as a friend offers you financial backing as a silent partner. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Moving into a new home will take up most of your day. Everyone is happy with the new living arrangements so try to keep hold of a short temper today so you do not get them upset. Remember, you only move into a place for the first time once, so make a memory! CANCER (June 22-July 22) Being honest with a person is the only thing to do today as the other person can tell if you are lying. Apply common sense to your present domestic situation and you will be able to remove the stress that is building up over this and several other things. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) With compassion you prevent others from having emotional pain when you must make a decision that may not have their best interests at heart. Although you have to put the company first you also consider the people to be important too. You are a great alternative to a power mad boss with little or no humanity. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A short trip to refresh your mind and your energies this week as you approach burnout on your job. Go on and get away, you'll come back in better shape and you may even start to like your job again. Dreams will be vivid and have a spiritual message That increases your faith and belief by leaps and bounds. Try to make time for visiting some special friends since your work schedule has prevented your seeing them for a while they are anxious to see and talk with you. A good Tech- nicolor dream week for you is in store so listen carefully to the messages. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you are a dreamer and a philosopher and everyone loves to gather around and listen. You can and do use some of this talent to help others with as they lose their path in life. Be aware in traveling today as the chance of accidents is on the horizon. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't be taken in by someone who truly does not understand you. Your only attraction for this person is the good income you earn and the security that goes with it. An old friend (not the above) interests you today when you realize that this person is having romantic feelings about you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today family members look to you to be the peacemaker because you do it so well. However, do not get too wound up in their affairs any deeper than you have to, you could end up being the 'ole meanie' in their minds if the decisions did not go their way. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You tread on the wrong toes today and get and meet your match! Good thing this person is of the opposite sex as you find him or her fascinating. A friend needs an ear and yours is the chosen one. Your advice is as good as you always make it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A former friend wants to get back with you but this may not be a good idea, as this friend may not be one. Listen to the rumors you hear concerning this person as they may be true. Today you will be going on a shopping spree; keep it short and simple, leave the credit card at home. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your performance on the job is excellent today as your get presentation ready and accurate. Take advantage of this by being a self starter on other things that needs doing and you can bet the boss will come up with a raise. Take the evening for relaxing."}, {"response": 788, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 28, 2000 (23:00)", "body": "August 29, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're noticing your have an abundance of wealth and happiness today. Everything seems to be going your way so be grateful to those who are helping you find your way. Make sure to share some of that abundance with others. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You'll hear from an old friend today. Why have you lost touch with them? You can rekindle this friendship by investing some time in returning phone calls and making an effort to see them. Start today -- can you make time for lunch? AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A Sagittarius may be pushy with you today. Gather up the courage to discuss your concerns with this person. While they may not know they are bothering you, you can't worry about hurting their feelings. You need to set your boundaries. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You are blossoming in your craft and you should be proud of your hard work. You are shining so brightly that others notice you. Don't be distracted by harsh word or cold shoulders - people are jealous of your happiness."}, {"response": 789, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (02:54)", "body": "Moving and didn't tell me, Marcia???? (see 787) Now why couldn't that be me ....Oh well, 6 weeks to go ...then I'll have a room and a bathroom in a shared apartment for 6 months!"}, {"response": 790, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (12:28)", "body": "Honey, that could't be me, either! Four garages of left over stuff from warehouses past...I should be so lucky!!!"}, {"response": 791, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (13:36)", "body": "Wel,, I sure gotta lot of stress building up .... now where's the common sense???"}, {"response": 792, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (14:43)", "body": "Left it in the other jacket???"}, {"response": 793, "author": "Fran", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (16:06)", "body": "How about Scorpios?"}, {"response": 794, "author": "Fran", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (16:23)", "body": "What do you know about Virgos?"}, {"response": 795, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "Hmmm who's the old friend then???"}, {"response": 796, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (23:07)", "body": "August 30, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A setback at work seems worse than it really is, so wait awhile and watch the situation turn for the best. Family and friends plan a weekend get together and you are not sure you want to go. Say yes, many things can happen in a day or two and you will be happy you said yes. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A good friend asks for your help today and you are hesitant about the matter. Help if you can, this person is good for it. Work goes smooth until afternoon; be sure to keep your cool and your distance. Take the evening to relax and unwind, things look better for tomorrow. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Far away places seem to be calling your name as you long for the open road or the open sea. A cruise this time of year can be beautiful if there are no storms about. This would be a wonderful idea for a honeymoon trip for those of you who are getting married. CANCER (June 22-July 22) After work you may be feeling a little drug out but you soon perk up when you hear some good news from a loved one. Take special care this evening around equipment if you are doing any home projects or working on your car. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Even though you are demanding and overbearing with someone today this person soon comes to realize that you are doing it for the good of all that are involved; all is forgiven. Make it up by taking your lover out on the town for some fun and a good dinner. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A plan you made months ago nears completion and you are relieved; now you get on to the real main event...making money. Try to spend more time with the children as they do grow up way too fast. a ball game would be nice or an afternoon of fishing; make some memories. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Being a lover and a flirt is second nature to you but your Taurus won't put up with it, so if you would like to stay married, it would be wise to curb your flirtatious ways. The trouble with a teenager is all resolved now and though it is not to your liking, it is probably for the best. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Before you stomp out the door and break your own heart why not have a long talk with that certain someone who has you all upset? Try to steer this person to a marriage counselor with you and you may yet save the relationship. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Children or grandchildren will take up most of your day and you couldn't be happier about it. A visit from a close one who has been away for awhile affords you this happiness. Put the brakes on the spending today as your first impulse will be to buy everything you think the young one will want. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A relative who is down on their luck needs a helping hand today and you help out by getting this person employment and give him a temporary place to stay. Don't worry, this person is trying to do better, and will, with your help. Besides, who knows when you may need help? AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) If a deal sounds too good to be true then it probably is too good to be true. Don't jump at anything today and be sure to count your fingers and toes when the dealings done. There is danger tonight in overindulging in anything so watch it. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A busy day for you at work but that doesn't slow you down as you are home, showered and ready for fun when your date shows up at the door, (or you pick her up). Be sure to make it a fairly early night because even night owls need some rest and sleep to get the job done right."}, {"response": 797, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (23:08)", "body": "August 30, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You need to be part of the process. You can learn a lot from what is going on at work but don't numb yourself out -- even though things are uncomfortable. You will learn a valuable lesson from opening up and working with others to make it better. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You know suppressing your feelings isn't healthy. It's nice that you want to spare someone's feelings but it's not healthy for you. It's time to sit down with this person and come clean. It's not fair for you to carry this responsibility all on your own. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You are thinking too much today. Don't you realize you are driving yourself crazy by trying to think of all the ways this work problem can end? You are doing okay -- don't worry about getting caught up in the drama. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces All it takes is some kind words to heal a situation. While tensions may be running high, you can defuse the situation easily. Your angels are helping to guide your words so don't be afraid to say what you really think."}, {"response": 798, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 29, 2000 (23:11)", "body": "Honeymoon trip to Belize?! England?!"}, {"response": 799, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 30, 2000 (22:12)", "body": "sorry if I got the dats wrong on the above postings! This one is correct! August 31, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Something you were putting a lot of time and effort into is now being postponed because of budget constraints. There is nothing you can do about this. Keep updating your work and be ready to implement it at some point. It will come to fruition eventually. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Is there a reason why you are living in the past? There is nothing you can do about it. You probably don't realize that you need can't move forward until you let go of the past. It's not going to change, not matter how much you try. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra The underlying motivation of a family member finally comes to light. Be relieved about this because you finally can deal with the situation as an equal. While this may rock your world temporarily, think of the future. Time will heal this wound. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You don't have to feel like you are standing on the outside looking in. You can easily be part of the plan to fix the problem. You may feel shy around a Taurus but present your thoughts and feelings. You'll quickly become part of the solution."}, {"response": 800, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 30, 2000 (22:15)", "body": "One of those above comments is precisely right - so right that I sent it to the guy to whom it pertains! Spooky!!! Watch out, Wolfie - not sure of ours!"}, {"response": 801, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (16:54)", "body": "August 31, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This will be a good day for reaffirming your faith in God and renewing your vows with a loved one. Share these things now and live in love afterward. Have a happy anniversary! Others will find that this is an all around good day when you break out in smiles for no reason at all. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A jealous person may try to get you fired today but the boss sees through this person in a hurry. If you are single you will find a new lover in your life and this is the one per- son you will come to trust enough to spend your whole life with. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today could be fraught with possibilities of job opportunities, perhaps a raise or a better job. Your boss has been watching you in the workplace and this will result in an offer of a new position very shortly. You head up a fund raising drive for a local charity. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your will power may not be as strong as you normally have it and you give in when you should stick to your decisions. You should strengthen your resolve by practicing what you preach. Today is good for taking on solitary tasks as you work better alone. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Don't let high praise at work inflate your ego as your work will be outstanding. This should be a day that will see you being lucky in love as the person of your dreams lets you know that it's you he/she is dreaming about. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Those of you who earn your living in the entertaining arts will find a new opportunities opening up for you as your success is highly probable. Others professions will see new job opportun- ities coming their way today and will have a chance to better themselves financially. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You may not agree with the decisions someone in your family has made but you will support them, win or lose. A new ro- mance is tempting today but don't go for it if you are mar- ried as therein lies disaster. Your home based business takes a big leap forward as you add more products. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This will be a day of upsets but if you are calm, and col- lected you will be able to get through the day relatively unscathed. You are not the kind to stay in a bad mood for very long and you tend to draw a happy crowd of people around you. You may opt to let a relationship die today as that is the best thing for all. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You have much more energy today than normal and you may be tempted to take on more than even a go-getter like you can handle. A child may have a slight injury, possibly a fall? But not to worry, it will in all likelihood not be serious. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today you must finally make a choice about your employment. The old established firm where you will have security or a brand new enterprise that you will be able to advance in quickly and get higher pay at the start. You must make a choice as to which is the best for you and your family. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your business sense is clicking well today and it could mean branching off on your own and throwing everything into that business you have been nurturing for a long time. You will find the funding for this coming in from an investment you made in the past. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) New ideas will be found today when you finally take the plunge into the investment market. Friends are treated to a glimpse of the new you as you tell them the advantages of using your stratigies. Your new love will win the hearts of your family."}, {"response": 802, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (16:56)", "body": "That means I should be down at the Civic selling T-shirts for the Volleyball tournament!"}, {"response": 803, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (18:41)", "body": "really? after what i went through today?"}, {"response": 804, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (21:12)", "body": "I think I will stay here where it is no-smoking and benign...well, sorta...!"}, {"response": 805, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (22:08)", "body": "Spetember 1, 2000 Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, September 1, 2000 Aquarian Talk: Aquarius natives can be funny and satiric almost at the same time. Example: Gertrude Stein was raised in Oakland, Calif. A reporter once asked her, ``What do you think of Oakland?'' After a moment's hesitation, the famous writer answered, ``It's there.'' James Joyce, another famous Aquarian author, said that people who couldn't understand his obscure writing suffered a grievous loss. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Attend to legal affairs. Something was overlooked. Be aware; protect self. Spotlight on proposals that include partnership, marriage. Scorpio involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You have freedom of thought, action; do something about it. Member opposite sex confides, ``You magnetize me.'' Power of words becomes evident. Gemini involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on diplomacy, designs, decorating, remodeling, important domestic adjustment. Your opinion sought regarding music; give it enthusiastically. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Exploit moodiness in the sense of stalling for time. Don't make a move until you get promises in writing. Pisces, Virgo individuals dominate scenario. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You gain recognition deserved long ago. Focus on power play, production, promotion. Find ways of more efficiently distributing product. Capricorn is in picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Let go of burden you should not have carried in first place. Be finished with preconceived notions. You gain realistic picture of future. Aries plays key role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Shake off emotional lethargy. Make fresh start in new direction. Give and receive love. Leo, Aquarius persons play meaningful roles. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Position is strong despite naysayers. Spotlight on cooperative efforts, partnership and marriage proposals. Money will be made available. Cancer native involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Investigate, experiment, report findings. You will have much to do with social event. Go to it. Popularity zooms. You could win contest. Gemini involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Refuse to be discouraged by bureaucratic red tape. Keep goal in sight; go after it. You'll prove yourself during emergency. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio are featured. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Take note of dreams. Write impressions of events, people. This will get creative juices activated. Long-distance communication will verify views. Express confidence. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Domestic adjustment could involve change of residence, marital status. Be sensitive to moods of others, but don't overlook your own feelings. Libra plays major role. IF SEPTEMBER 1 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Your thoughts are original; some consider them revolutionary. You are independent, creative, you don't fear the unknown. You are romantic, passionate and you do take a chance on romance. Leo, Aquarius persons play significant roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. During this month, social activities accelerate. You will be creative, romantic and vibrant."}, {"response": 806, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (02:28)", "body": "Sept 1, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You can be instrumental in helping someone feel better about themselves. While you don't see any reason why you should be nice to this person, remember something - What goes around, come around. Take the high road and say some kind words. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You deserve a huge round of applause today! You'll pulled something off that seemed impossible. You deserve all the compliments you get today so say thank you graciously. A Gemini will surprise you with their attitude. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Someone at your job will recognize you for your talents. It hasn't been your fault you haven't been recognized -- someone's problems have been overshadowing your talent. Your opinions are truly valued by this person -- share your thoughts. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Trust your instinct today. Someone is working against you today. Don't go behind the scenes to handle this. This person's deeds need to be put into the light. You'll be the person to finally stop this pattern so trust the guidance you get today - no matter how strange."}, {"response": 807, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (14:41)", "body": "September 1, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Frustrations caused by people and events you cannot control keeps you on edge today. Your inability to control your world is not disastrous at this time, soon you will be on top again. You see things turn in your direction as your natural leadership comes to the fore. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Shy people miss out on just about everything and with your personality you are not cut out to be a retireing little lamb. You grab for the gusto today when you get your friends together and plan an enjoyable time at the closest beach. Keep the fun sober, and stay safe . GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Dual Gemini may be hit with double trouble problems today, as the two people whom you have been trying to choose both call for a firm answer from you, and you are in a quandary. The chances are good that today you will lose them both as one finds out about the other. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A friend calls on you for help and you hitch up the wagon and ride to the rescue. You can make a difference in this persons life, gaining a whole hearted love and respect which, in the past, had been on the surface at best. Take some time for just you this afternoon. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone who blamed all their troubles on you has seen the light, and now understands that it wasn't you who caused his/her woes. Your family demands more of your time today and you find a special joy in sharing things. Don't go to bed angry. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A member of your family calls you today and you feel a sense of relief after hearing from him/her. Take care of your health as you are prime for a new virus that's going around. Could be just ragweed pollen, check it out to be sure. A mate gladdens your heart today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Libra is headed for the hills today and so is the rest of the family. You believe in sharing the good times and to- day is no exception as you are given an extra day off from work. Don't let anyone change your future plans and rain on your parade. You are on the right track with your business plans. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't go out and spend a lot of money on things just to impress the neighbors. Give yourself a reward and buy something decadently expensive just to please yourself. Be sure to take along your other 'half' and buy him/or her something just as expensive, but--- (maybe on sale?). SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You feel out of sorts today and you may be coming down with a virus. An uncaring relative may not show any con- cern for you as he/she gets angry because you cannot do your usual chores for them. This opens your eyes and you put a stop to them, permanently. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your hat in the political arena could just what your com- munity needs. Try to keep your plans under wraps as long as possible and then spring it on everyone. A person you meet today could become the special one for you, as you are swept off your feet just as soon as you meet him/her. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Someone claims that they have changed but it is rare that one ever changes who has been used to inflicting spousal abuse. The stars are right for you to end this unfortunate relationship before it goes too far. Your friends applaud your good sense. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Search for hidden clauses in all contracts today as there is a possibility of an 'I gotcha' in one. Keep alert and the truth will not elude you in these matters. Tempers may be very close to the surface and it would be wise to treat everyone with an extra dose of courtesy."}, {"response": 808, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (14:41)", "body": "Oh Man, I am not answering the phone today!!!"}, {"response": 809, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (22:04)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, September 2, 2000 Nancy Reagan: A nationally syndicated columnist has described the former first lady as being ``star-struck.'' She was referring to Nancy Reagan's continued interest in astrology. In truth, Nancy, a Cancer, can better be described as having the benefit of ``starlight.'' Nancy has continued her intense interest in mantic arts, especially astrology. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Take special care with accounting procedures; computer error possible. Changes could be called for. Don't hesitate to make them. Virgo is in picture. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Lay low; play waiting game. Legal complications if you are careless. Focus on proposals, partnership, marriage. Aries, Libra persons could play major roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Obtain hint from Taurus message. Define terms. Outline boundaries. Don't confide, confess or tell all. Element of deception is present. Pisces involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Protect self in emotional clinches. Physical attraction is part of scenario. Permit logic to play role. Know difference between flattery and factual information. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Future is brighter than might have been anticipated. Property value involved -- better than first imagined. Scorpio figures in complicated scenario. Travel offer. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Agree to short journey with relative, but don't get involved in wild-goose chase. Message could change plans at last minute. Proper interpretation necessary. Leo involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Financial prospects require review. Don't give up something of value for nothing. Lost articles will be returned. Be gracious but not obsequious. Capricorn represented. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Cycle high. You win despite those who wish you ill will. Focus on humor, versatility, ability to challenge and emerge victorious. Sagittarius is in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look behind scenes for answers. Remember that all that glitters is not gold. Politely ask that grandiose promises be put in writing. Money comes from surprise source. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Superior seeks consultation. Don't go hat in hand. Royalty due. Stand tall for legal rights. Read, write, learn by teaching. Stay one step ahead of class. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Attention revolves around home, possibility of change of residence, marital status. Promise, once broken, will be fulfilled. Libra plays dominant role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Lunar aspect highlights long-range plans. Travel involved. See beyond the immediate. Philosophical discussion proves rewarding. Virgo, another Pisces represented. IF SEPTEMBER 2 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are emotional, loyal, family-oriented. Some people insist you are psychic. Cancer, Capricorn persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Legal complications will be resolved before September is finished. Travel, flirtation indicated for October. Important domestic adjustment takes place in November that could include where you live, marital status. http://www.fidget.com"}, {"response": 810, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 3, 2000 (15:51)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, September 3, 2000 Macy Gray: She is a Taurus, has a voice described as distinctive, unforgettable. She is a 30-year-old African American who has suffered setbacks and finally has achieved success. She says, ``For myself, I'm just on time. If I had got there when I was a teen-ager, I can't imagine what I would have talked about.'' Macy Gray's lyrics are personal, touching. Once heard, not easily forgotten. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Slow pace; ignore those who urge you to make snap decision. Someone is holding something back, involves money. Heed inner voice, follow instincts and your heart. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Lie low, playing waiting game. Questions arise concerning cooperative efforts, partnership, marriage. You require more factual information to make decision. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on organization, priorities, intense relationship. Work methods subject to change; have alternatives at hand. Capricorn could become valuable ally. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Finish what you start. Relationship exciting but lacks structure. If looking for a ``quick thrill'' all is well. Otherwise, hold your fire. Aries figures prominently. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Answer is affirmative, make fresh start in new direction. Improve property, check plumbing. Aquarian is serious concerning possible purchase. Make concession. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You could be talk of the town. Your criticisms, written and oral, attract favorable attention. Be available, but not cheaply. Cancer native plays paramount role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diversify, highlight versatility, accent humor. Moon in Scorpio represents your Second House, equates to money, retrieval of lost valuable. Sagittarian involved. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You will be in midst of intense negotiations -- don't remain neutral; state where you are and why. Be aware of correct measurements, solve mathematical dilemma. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Check Libra message for added information. Be alert for change, travel, variety of experiences. Member of opposite sex wants something for nothing. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Attention revolves around harmony at home, sound of music; dance to your own rhythm. Gift or purchase of art object helps beautify surroundings. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Check Taurus message for valid hint. Deception involved; time on your side, perfect techniques and streamline procedures. Those who say they cannot wait -- let them go. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): People see a ``different you.'' Let others know you mean business. Focus on priorities, organization, distribution. Hard facts favor your position. You will win. IF SEPTEMBER 3 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have delightful sense of humor, are artistic, creative, will try anything. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. Current cycle relates to travel, marital status. Possible change of residence in October due. Your most memorable, romantic, profitable month this year is December."}, {"response": 811, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 3, 2000 (15:52)", "body": "Hmmm...New Hampshire is a Capricorn..."}, {"response": 812, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 3, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "am really grumpy today and i don't know any capricorns."}, {"response": 813, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 3, 2000 (19:02)", "body": "Mike is a Capricorn... Maybe it was for me?? I am talking to him now..."}, {"response": 814, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 3, 2000 (23:01)", "body": "Ooooh........such a great converstation it was, too Sydney Omarr's Astrological Forecast September 4, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): Financial tangle will be settled to your advantage. If patient, you win. If impulsive, you win but less money. Look behind scenes for answers. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on priorities, methods of distribution. Promotion due; pressure is on, but you will be up to it. Capricorn, Cancer natives will play significant roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You are on precipice of universal acclaim. Don't quit now. A little more time, and fame, fortune could come your way. Aries, Libra play dramatic roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Let go of preconceived notions. Make fresh start; create your own ``miracles.'' Don't follow others; let them follow you. Wear shades of gold and red. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Definite choices necessary in connection with partnership, marriage. Concentrate on what you are doing and why. Capricorn will play outstanding role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You gain legitimate information concerning property value. Individual who held back will be out in open. Base actions on knowledge. Gemini in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Show that you are more than ``Johnny One-Note.'' Tear down in order to rebuild. Revamp, rewrite; this could be your make-over day. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio involved. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Make intelligent concessions, don't give up the ship. You have made favorable impression on powers-that-be. Read and write, teach and learn. Dream is meaningful. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Cycle moves up; circumstances turn in your favor. You are on right track despite what anyone says. Be kind to family member who makes mistake. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You could be hearing music. You will know your love is not unrequited. Focus on romance, emotionalism, willingness to fight if cause is right. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): What seemed beyond reach will now be practically at your doorstep. Grab hold and don't let go. You win friends and influence people; will be talk of the town. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Lunar position equates to leadership, promotion, direction. Open lines of communication; someone wants to tell you something. Aries, Libra persons figure in scenario. IF SEPTEMBER 4 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Be prepared for a ``rock-em-roll-em'' shake-up. Attention revolves around residence, decisions relating to partnership, marriage. You are determined, at times stubborn. You can handle details, but don't always enjoy doing so. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play key roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. November most memorable, profitable in 2000."}, {"response": 815, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (16:33)", "body": "ooooooooo!! fame, fortune? hope it's not for notoriety! *grin* my mom and dad are both libras (oh no) and my daughter is an aries. hope they don't mean bad things when they say dramatic."}, {"response": 816, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (20:42)", "body": "September 5, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Domestic disputes that you have been having will be resolved today in a manner beneficial to all concerned. An early upset at work could cause you some aggravation today but it will be over by noon. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) New developments are to your unique advantage today at work. Today a new age or maybe an occult subject will be interest- ing to you today, try not to get too involved; faith is best served in God. The boss may have a great surprise and offer for you. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) There is a wonderful emphasis on love matters today; This would be a perfect time to tell someone your deepest feel- ings. This would also be a good time to guard against over- spending, which you will be doing without giving it a second thought...until later. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Now is the time that your financial picture will take a turn for the better. Get an early start today and put yourself one up on your competition. You can make major strides at work if you exercise your initiative and not wait to be pushed ahead. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) If you are in the creative arts field now would be an auspicious time to engage an agent as you are about to make a major move in your field. You and a loved one are clicking together today and your love, as well as your future, is brighter. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You will have to provide the broad shoulder for a loved one who is in need of your strength. Your home will likely be the center of activity for friends and family today as there is a special closeness between family members at this time due to a recent happening. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a good day for making agreements and contracts as you will get your way on most everything. Don't misuse this ability, as it could turn around and bite you. No doors are closed to you today as you flash that innate charm and good will Libra is so well known for. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Be diplomatic with all you come into contact with today. Smooth sailing is ahead for you today as far as your business interests are concerned. You will be able to reach out and capture that goal you have been working toward. Family interests are good now. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Support a loved one in a new business venture, you will be glad you did. Others feel that extra charm and charisma that you are radiating now and will respond favorably to your request. This is the time to seek, and get, what you want out of life. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) New money making ideas are yours today if you try. A backer is just waiting for the business plan and when you present it, the backing is yours! Today would be a good time to shop for computers and other electronic equipment. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) The social circuit is concentrating on you today and you receive quite a few invitations to get together with others! Pick and choose the best ones and be sure to put your best foot forward in dress and manner to be assured of your standing in the group. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Trying to get that extra privacy that you and a loved one needs will be impossible today as there are entirely too many demands on your time. Evening will be a good time to sneak off for a few hours to breathe and talk. Love blooms in the evening."}, {"response": 817, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (20:45)", "body": "oh Geez, Wolfie! Did you see that? Both feet in mouth tomorrow, I guess. The one who continues to matter, I cannot tell more than I all ready have..."}, {"response": 818, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Finances have been good for you lately but be careful. You don't want to go overboard and spend money on things you don't really need. It might be a good idea to open a savings account or add money if you already have one. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're feeling like a whole new person today and it is showing on the outside. You have a light shining from you so make sure to share it -- especially with that sad Capricorn. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You can't keep juggling the situations you have to deal with anymore. Family, friends, work, and hobbies are getting too much for you. You need to have some quiet time so you can figure out how to effectively spend your time and energy. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's going to be a hectic day with a lot of things to juggle. That's okay -- you're going to be able to handle it beautifully because your creative juices will be flowing. Don't worry about overbookings or double meetings, just put your mind to it and it will all work out."}, {"response": 819, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (22:25)", "body": "Think I just alienated a Canadian Virgo... Words can be potent things but are not always understood when eye contact is missing..."}, {"response": 820, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (23:39)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday, September 5, 2000 Samuel L. Jackson: He is an actor who has portrayed many characters. He has overcome many obstacles. Despite his troubles as a youth, he graduated college and was a candidate for Annapolis. He is a Cancer and is a family man. Samuel L. Jackson is one of the hardest working actors in the film industry. ARIES (March 21-April 19): What had been far away will be close at hand. Take initiative. Make contacts; make crystal clear you will fight if cause is right. Capricorn involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Look beyond the immediate, permit yourself to dream of the future. Your dreams will come true; be sure you dream the right dream. Libra figures prominently. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Shake off emotional lethargy. Journey overseas is distinct possibility if you are to find representative for your talent, product. Aries is in picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Those who thought you were stopped cold are in for disappointment. Make fresh start, take chance on romance. A new, different kind of love is on horizon. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): People talk about you; you are in the spotlight and could be flirting with fame, fortune. A different side of you emerges, sense of humor. Sagittarian plays major role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Those who ignored you will pay dear price. Revise, rewrite, revamp, make this your make-over day. You are on solid ground despite what others imply. Scorpio involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Read and write, teach and learn, investigate subtle clues. You find out more about yourself than others. You exude sex appeal. Don't break too many hearts. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): As difficult as it might seem, it is necessary to be diplomatic. You'll be dealing with creative, temperamental people -- win rather than force your way. Beautify home. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): See people as they are, avoid self-deception. Play waiting game, refuse to be cajoled into making snap decision. Pisces, Virgo persons play paramount roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You hold trump card whether or not you are aware of it. People vie for your services and the right to wine and dine you. Cancer native makes clear, ``I want to be your ally.'' AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Do what you are very good at doing, predicting the future. People talk about you; many are drawn to you with their problems. Enlist aid of Aries who claims to know it all. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Sun shines bright where you designate. Take initiative; don't follow others, let them follow you. New love on horizon. Take chance on romance especially with Leo. IF SEPTEMBER 5 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are inquisitive, a natural psychologist-journalist. Your intellectual curiosity takes you along paths where it is said angels fear to tread. You are analytical, can be your own most severe critic. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. During October, you will have more responsibility, more money and an abundance of romance and love."}, {"response": 821, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "Don't know an Aries but do fancy a trip to Barcelona...."}, {"response": 822, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 5, 2000 (21:11)", "body": "No romance for me whatsoever today....*sigh* Wolfie, did you have better luck? Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, September 6, 2000 Russell Crowe: He is a New Zealand-born, Aries actor who has made intensity his trademark. Burt Reynolds says, ``There is a fire in him that burns all night long, all day long, all the time.'' Russell Crowe has been dubbed a young Marlon Brando. Off-screen, Russell Crowe leads a life no less rugged than he does on screen. He is a writer, motorcycle enthusiast; his name will signify ``star quality.` ARIES (March 21-April 19): Open lines of communication. You are going to be told something of value by individual in distant city or foreign land. Libra and another Aries figure in scenario. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Display another side of you -- be flexible, imprint style, wear bright colors. You will be fascinated by the mantic arts, including astrology. Leo plays role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You could encounter future soul mate. Spotlight on legal affairs, public relations, marital status. Lie low, play waiting game. Cancer native makes declaration of loyalty. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Gain hint from Gemini message. Highlight versatility, ability to pick and choose. Laugh at your own foibles; help others to see the humor in their lives. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Cycle is such that you attract people in physical, sexual manner. Creative juices stir; imprint your own style. Revise, rewrite, rebuild. You'll be accepted. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Focus on building material, sturdy structure, ability to write your impressions, needs. You'll be dealing with Gemini, Sagittarius persons, some quite temperamental. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Attention revolves around ability to beautify home. Focus on color coordination, decorating, remodeling. Taurus individual implies, ``I'm very much attracted to you.'' SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Hold back, pull your punches. Someone tempts you into making error. Do not accommodate. Define terms, outline boundaries. Don't deceive yourself. Pisces represented. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Power-play day. Get your motor running, charge toward ultimate goal and don't quit. Elements of timing, luck ride with you. Cancer, Capricorn persons represented. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Finish what you start, look behind scenes for answers. Someone is following you, means no harm. Let it be known, however, ``Enough is enough.'' Aries plays role. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Your inventive qualities surge forth. Give full rein to creative resources. Make fresh start in new direction, give romance another chance. Leo figures in scenario. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Decision reached on whether to remain close to home or to travel. Cancer native helps you decide. Love and marriage could be involved. No need to be frightened. IF SEPTEMBER 6 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are musical, sensitive to sound, are basically diplomatic but will fight when cause is right. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play memorable roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. This could be your power year, featuring big business, marriage. Before September is finished you might be asking, ``What took me so long?'' New kind of love indicated for November."}, {"response": 823, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 5, 2000 (21:18)", "body": "Re: above - how I wish... September 6, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You may be offered financial backing for your new business for a piece of the action; it's your baby, so be sure to keep the controlling interest. A friend from the past may reenter your life with a bang today; just don't forget the past. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Collaborating with someone today on work of a creative nature will be very rewarding for you. This is a good day to be skep- tical of rumors as everything you hear today may not be the truth. Check out a good deal, or a great offer carefully be- fore investing your hard earned money. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your work of a creative twist will be greatly inspired today as almost everything you see seems to form a new idea until you are brimming over with them. Put them to use and they could earn you a raise. Take no financial risks today and watch luxury spending. CANCER (June 22-July 22) This is not a good time for loaning large amounts of money or taking any financial risks. There are some reversals for you on the horizon. Family affairs are favorable today and you will be able to reach an understanding with a child. Not a good night for a party. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A chance statement by someone who is always careless about their speech will hurt your pride today but you do not blow it out of proportion and lose your temper...consider the source. This is a good evening to begin a creative new hobby that you have been meaning to start. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Take pride in what you accomplish at work today as you are good at what you do and today everyone else knows it to. Keep yourself well grounded in relationships and matters of the heart. This could be a lucky day for you in the romance department if you play it cool. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you should go along with your instincts as an inspired hunch is right on target and you hit the bullseye to success. A fantastic new job offer or a new position at your present place is in the stars for you. Success is assured. Spend a quiet time at home in the evening. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A co-worker gets on your nerves today but you wisely let it pass as arguing is frowned on in the establishment. Talks with business people are favored and you will get that loan that you need to buy the home your family has always wanted. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You are unusually moody and distracted today as you have 'one of those days'. Happy about one thing, glad about another, pleased with one person, and boiling mad at someone else! This would be a good day to pack in and stay at home until you regain control. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A serious marital dispute that arises today will not be solv- able in one day but you will have a handle on it before the sun goes down. For clues look for: he saids, and she saids. Be sure you dump all your troubles outside when you start for work as you don't need to lose your job as well as your peace of mind. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Don't overload yourself with extra jobs today, and don't volunteer for things if you really don't have the time to do them; slapdash through your work will not earn any credits with the boss, and all that volunteering will only make you look over anxious. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Having talks with business higher ups and financial advisors will be highlighted for today. A disappointment with a family member may have you feeling down but this will work out and by tonight all will be forgiven while love reigns supreme."}, {"response": 824, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 5, 2000 (22:22)", "body": "September 6, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You have an inner conflict about a past issue. It's not good to listen to your inner voice about the past -- there is nothing you can do about it. Have a good cry about it or beat up a pillow if it makes you feel better. But let it go. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A new opportunity is on the horizon. Don't be so stubborn that you let it pass by. Your pride has nothing to do with this -- you've earned this, even though it has been a long time coming to you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Today would be a good day to rest. A Pisces will be able to make you feel better and give you a shoulder to cry on. Today you'll be able to clear up some old inaccurate feelings and perceptions of yourself. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today might feel scary to you because your going to be put in the spotlight. Take a deep breath -- you know what you're talking about! It might be a little bit shaky at first but you'll be able to pull through."}, {"response": 825, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 5, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "This one is spot-on for virgo and gemini, but not sure I know any aries..."}, {"response": 826, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 6, 2000 (19:13)", "body": "Astrological Forecast By Sydney Omarr September 7, 2000 Most Intelligent: Gemini, Libra, Aquarius ... Most emotional: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces ... Most Stubborn: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn ... Most inspirational: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius. More left-handed persons tend to be born under Gemini. Most passionate are born under Scorpio. Show people and evangelists are born under Leo. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Take new aim at career aspirations. Get rid of preconceived notions. You could be entering a new world; be receptive, not naive. Leo plays outstanding role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on direction, motivation, meditation. If single, you could encounter future spouse. Emphasis on protection of property, loved ones. Trust intuition. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Examine various aspects of questions, problems. Bring humor into forefront -- laugh at your own foibles. Element of luck rides with you, you could win contest. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Check measurements, count your change. Tear down in order to rebuild. This could be your make-over day. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons figure in scenario. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Change of scene proves beneficial. Read and write, learn by teaching. Flirtation could be going too far. What begins in lighthearted manner could turn heavy. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention revolves around what is occurring at home. Focus on possible change of residence, marital status. Music plays, dance to your own rhythm. Libra involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Play waiting game, define terms, outline boundaries. Protect self in emotional clinches; deception involved. Refuse to be fall guy. Pisces represented. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You will be part of major transaction involving finance. You'll have more money, responsibility. Pressure on; you will be up to it. Capricorn plays top role. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be ready to depart at a moment's notice. You are being considered for overseas assignment. Let go of burden belonging to another. Aries, Libra persons involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Obtain hint from Sagittarius message. Cycle high; emphasize personality, make surprise appearances. You could be talk of the town. Leo plays sensational role. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Focus on partnership, marital status. You could encounter one destined to play major role in your life. Cancer, another Aquarian figure prominently. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Diversify, pick and choose. Accent humor, versatility, intelligence. You will be cited for unique honor. Be modest, not servile. Sagittarian plays unique role. IF SEPTEMBER 7 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are studious, are not afraid of being alone; you realize you can be lonely in a crowd. At times you are sensitive to degree of being psychic. Pisces, Virgo persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names - G, P, Y. Before September is finished you will be rid of burden you should not have assumed in first place. New beginning, new love in October."}, {"response": 827, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 6, 2000 (19:30)", "body": "wow! the week has been rough but today was a gem."}, {"response": 828, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 6, 2000 (21:28)", "body": "September 7, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You may meet with a disappointment early on but otherwise, a good day to further your financial interests. If you are not already employed this would be a good day to send out resumes, put in application, and go to job interviews. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may feel frustrated today talking to someone who absolutely refuses to listen to reason; save it for another time. You will get valuable leads today on getting a new place to live. an overall good day but avoid risky ventures, you could have losses. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A problem that you can easily avoid is likely to arise with a friend over money, do what needs to be done in order to prevent this from occurring. You and the spouse will be on the same wavelength and make some good decisions today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Problems in the morning may have you stumped on a project but you figure them out by noon and it is clear sailing from there. This has all the earmarks of turning out to be a good day for you in the romance department as your true love says yes. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Worries over certain business matters are laid to rest today after you have a long talk with an advisor. This is an excel- lent time to make domestic or business decisions as you have all the tools at your fingertips. Plan an early evening and catch up on rest. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may experience a change in plans today that throws you off schedule in your business, never fear, you will have things clicking again before sundown. An extended domestic quarrel may have you up in the air but compromise can ease the situation to a great degree. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Major decisions that you have been putting off will be made today as your thinking clears up and your resolve hardens. Do your best not to argue with anyone as that make re-fog your thinking. You will enjoy some fun with friends tonight. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Progress at work is assured today as you apply your logic and common sense to the problems that have been bothering you. Patience and perseverance will win your true loves heart. If you are planning a party tonight be sure to take along a designated driver. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Quarreling with a loved one about a financial matter will only make things worse; best to sit down and go over the budget with him/her to make your points clear. Work should go smoothly today until late afternoon when you could hit a snag; delegate some of those jobs and help yourself out. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your intuition leads you to the exact spot, situation, that you need to reach today for optimum input to solving your marital problems. Don't listen to rumors, prove everything out for yourself and that way you will always know the truth with no doubt involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A friend is in trouble and you pull out all the stops today as well as going into your own bank account. You may exper- ience problems with appliances or electronics today, be sure to call in an expert to service your valuable equip- ment. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Major career developments for you today as you take a giant step up the corporate ladder of success. Your intuition is high today and this enables you to surprise and please a loved one. Children may need some extra guidance this even- ing and you are equal to this."}, {"response": 829, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 6, 2000 (21:30)", "body": "Great! The only one with whom I will be on the same wavelength is someone who does not exist. Gonna crawl into a hole tomorrow.."}, {"response": 830, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 6, 2000 (22:59)", "body": "September 7, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're changing into a new person in front of everyone's eyes. This is a positive change for you so don't let anyone discourage you. It's time for you to emerge as the beautiful and talented person you are. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You'll meet someone today who you will click with instantly. It's like you're old friends, even though you just met. Take this person's management advice seriously -- it will turn out to be a great lesson for you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra All your spiritual and philosophical practices are going to be working to your advantage at an important meeting today. Be centered and confident because your knowledge will impress and inform important people who can help your future. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're not going to have any stress today, nor allow anyone else to have any either. Are you enjoying your role as the comedian today? Good - because you'll carry it on to tonight when you hit the town."}, {"response": 831, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 7, 2000 (15:35)", "body": "September 8, 2000 Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, September 8, 2000 Sarah Jessica Parker: She has been acting professionally for 25 years. She hastens to add that in spite of being an old pro, ``I never cease to feel challenged by my work in film, television and theater.'' She is an Aries who has become involved in many activities. She explains, ``I love acting, but I like to think there is a greater contribution I can make to the world.'' Big change occurs for Sarah Jessica Parker in November. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Family member proves instrumental in furthering your career. For best opportunities, stick close to home. Cancer native is destined to play major role in your life. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Favorable lunar aspect coincides with special studies, metaphysics, philosophy and theology. You will work hard and have a great time doing it. Sagittarian involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Review of facts, figures will verify opinions. Hot dispute; you emerge victorious. Those who questioned you will apologize. Be gracious in accepting praise. Dilemma dissolves. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Lie low, play waiting game. Legal structure requires additional strength. Spotlight on partnership, marriage. Research needed if you are to debate. Virgo in picture. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Gentle approach brings desired results. Means be diplomatic, especially in connection with family matters. Serious discussion involves residence, marital status. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Obtain hint from Leo message. Time on your side, no real need to rush. Mystical experience should be savored. Pisces and another Virgo native figure in exciting scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Spotlight on property values, accepting added responsibility. Love relationship hot and heavy. Protect self in emotional clinches. Position strong; don't surrender. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Look beyond the immediate, give serious thought to overseas journey. Participate in humanitarian project. You are on precipice of fame, fortune. Aries plays role. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Imprint style, don't follow others. Your role is to lead, to be daring and resourceful. Leo, Aquarius persons figure prominently. Luck with number 1. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): It might seem at first that something you want is being taken away. That is temporary; what you need will practically be handed to you. Another Capricorn involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Good news breaks. Circumstances are turning in your favor. Be selective, insist on the best. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play meaningful roles. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Mathematical problem will be solved. Measurements prove accurate. You emerge as winner in complicated situation. Taurus, Scorpio individuals are represented. IF SEPTEMBER 8 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: When going is tough, you get going. You handle responsibility adroitly, are intense in everything you do, especially in making love. Capricorn-, Cancer-born persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. Before September is finished you'll make fresh start in new direction. November will be very social; will include travel, humor, entertainment."}, {"response": 832, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 7, 2000 (21:33)", "body": "This from Gi... with my heartfelt thanks! Apple Tree, the Love (Dec. 23 to Jan. 1, June 25 to July 4) Of slight build(?!), lots of charm, appeal and attraction, pleasant aura, flirtatious, adventurous, sensitive, always in love, wants to love and be loved, faithful and tender partner, very generous, scientific talents, lives for today, a carefree philosopher with imagination Fir Tree, the Mysterious (Jan. 2 to Jan. 11, July 5 to July 14) Extraordinary taste, dignity, cultivated airs, loves anything beautiful, moody, stubborn, tends to egoism but cares for those close to it, rather modest, very ambitious, talented, industrious uncontented lover, many friends, many foes, very reliable Elm Tree, the Noble-Mindedness (Jan. 12 to Jan 24, July 15 to July 25) pleasant shape, tasteful clothes, modest demands, tends to not forgive mistakes, cheerful, likes to lead but not to obey, honest and faithful partner, tends to a now-all-attitude and making decisions for others, noble minded, generous, good sense of humour, practical Cypress, the Faithfulness (Jan. 25 to Feb. 3, July 26 to Aug. 4) strong, muscular, adaptable, takes what life has to give, happy content, optimistic, needs enough money and acknowledgement, hates loneliness, passionate lover which cannot be satisfied, faithful, quick tempered, unruly, pedantic and careless Poplar, the Uncertainty (Feb. 4 to 8, May 1 to 14, Aug. 5 to 13) looks very decorative, no self-confident behaviour, only courageous if necessary, needs goodwill and pleasant surroundings, very choosy, often lonely, great animosity, artistic nature, good organizer, tends to philosophy, reliable in any situation, takes partnership serious Cedar, the Confidence (Feb. 9 to Feb. 18, Aug. 14 to Aug. 23) of rare beauty, knows how to adapt, likes luxury, of good health not in the least shy, tends to look down on others, self-confident, determined, impatient, wants to impress others, many talents, industrious, healthy optimism, waiting for the one true love, able to make quick decisions Pine Tree, the Particularity (Feb. 19 to Feb. 28, Aug. 24 to Sep. 2) loves agreeable company, very robust, knows how to make life comfortable, very active, natural, good companion, but seldom friend, falls easily in love but its passion burns out quickly, gives up easily, many disappointment still it finds its ideal, trustworthy, practical Weeping Willow, the Melancholy (March 1 to March 10, Sep. 3 to Sep. 12) beautiful but full of melancholy, attractive, very empathic, loves anything beautiful and tasteful, loves to travel, dreamer, restless, capricious, honest, can be influenced but is not easy to live with, demanding, good intuition, suffers in love but finds sometimes an anchoring partner Lime tree, the Doubt (March 11 to March 20, Sep. 13 to Sep. 22) accepts what life dishes out in a composed way, hates fighting, stress and labour, tends to laziness and idleness, soft and relenting, makes sacrifices for friends, many talents but not tenacious enough to make them blossom, often wailing and complaining, very jealous, loyal Hazelnut Tree, the Extraordinary (March 22 to March 31, Sep 24 to Oct. 3) charming, undemanding, very understanding, knows how to make an impression, active fighter for social cause, popular, moody and capricious lover, honest and tolerant partner, precise sense of judgement Rowan, the Sensitivity (Apr. 1 to Apr. 10, Oct. 4 to Oct. 13) full of charm, cheerful, gifted, without egoism, likes to draw attention, loves life, motion, unrest and even complications, is both dependent and independent, good taste, artistic, passionate, emotional, good company, does not forgive Maple, Independence of Mind (Apr. 11 to Apr. 20, Oct. 14 to Oct. 23) no ordinary person, full imagination and originality, shy and reserved, ambitious, proud, self-respect, hungers for new experiences, sometimes nervous, many complexes, good memory, learns easily, complicated love life, wants to impress Walnut Tree, the Passion (Apr. 21 to Apr. 30, Oct. 24 to Nov. 11) unrelenting, strange and full of contrasts, often egoistic, aggressive, noble, broad horizon, unexpected reactions, spontaneous, unlimited ambition, no flexibility, difficult and uncommon partner, not always liked but often admired, ingenious strategist, very jealous and passionate, no compromises Chestnut Tree, the Honesty (May 15 to May 24, Nov. 12 to Nov. 21) of unusual beauty, does not want to impress, well developed sense of justice, vivacious, interested, a born diplomat, but irritate and sensitive in company, often due to a lack of self-confidence, acts sometimes superior, feels not understood, loves only once, has difficulties in finding a partner Ash Tree, the Ambition (May 25 to June 3, Nov. 22 to Dec. 1) uncommonly attractive, vivacious, impulsive, demanding, does not care for criticism, ambitious, intelligent, talented, likes to play with its fate, can be egoistic, very reliable and trust- worthy, faithful and prudent lover, sometimes brains rule over heart, b"}, {"response": 833, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 7, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "Wouldn't you know...I made an ash of myself..."}, {"response": 834, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 8, 2000 (00:00)", "body": "September 8, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Finally, it's all come together for you. Something that has been bothering you at work has come to a head. It's okay -- things needed to be worked out. This will bring up a brand new working partnership with someone you never expected. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're going to see past the charade your loved one has been putting on for you. Even though this will disappoint you, don't hold it against them too long. They really didn't tell you about this for your own good. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You know what's behind you and you can't change it. You don't know what's in front of you and there are a million possibilities there. Your best bet would be to live in the moment and enjoy where you are now. Stop analyzing things. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're part of a team that has done a great job impressing someone very important! The boss is happy and treats you to a meal for all your hard work. When you get invited to a social event tonight, go! You'll have a great time."}, {"response": 835, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 8, 2000 (00:40)", "body": "September 8, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A particular friend may be un predictable tonight so take nothing for granted and you won't be disappointed. If a financial situation seems confusing to you today don't be afraid to ask some pointed questions in order to clear up the matter. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Tonight will bring a domestic decision that you have put off; changes in plans are possible. In business today be sure you are reading all the signals correctly before you take that important step. Make it an early night and get some rest. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A friend comes through for you today in a pinch, earning your never ending respect and appreciation. Domestic problems may cause you to have less ability to concen- trate on the job today but try to put it aside until quitting time; your job could depend on doing that. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Mixing business with pleasure will pay off big. You have very good social graces and they will help you in busi- ness today. This is a good day to shop for a few of those luxury items you have been wanting. Spend extra time with the family tonight. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You will feel inspired at home and at work today. The redecorating you are doing benefits now from a bargain you find and your work day runs smooth as silk. Friends will want to take you out on the town tonight; go ahead and enjoy yourself. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Delay reaching final agreements today on financial matters best left to a later date. Tie up those loose ends so nothing can spoil your upcoming weekend with the family and visiting relatives. Be sure to clear out the spare room or reserve a motel room for the visitors. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Shopping for collectibles or fine furniture is well aspect- ed today as you are likely to find some wonderful bargains. Guard against overspending, overspending will be easy to do on buying impulse items. A good night not to argue. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Try not to cross swords with a co-worker today as you could lose. Your charm will open many doors for you today that had formerly been locked tight. Travel for the weekend would be good now as well as home town activities; boating, swimming, etc.. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you should have no trouble in getting your ideas across to others. A loss of confidence in someone today could make you sad but this person isn't worth losing any sleep over, there are better people in your life to worry about. Plan a weekend getaway. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Keeping a low profile today will do more for your image than you can imagine at this time. Working behind the scenes may not put your name on display but the results will give you a great feeling of accomplishment. plan some family fun. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A major purchase may be in your plans and today you get some good leads. You love it when a plan comes together and it does today...big time! The person you helped 'up' is now able to 'walk alone' and you are so happy that you could almost fly. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Plan a little fun in the sun with the family before all the warm weather fades away for another year. Procras- tination could be the pitfall of the day for you if you start putting off the important things. Remember that the early bird gets the juiciest worm."}, {"response": 836, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Fri, Sep 8, 2000 (03:08)", "body": "Am I really an 'apple' ????? and who put the ???? marks by 'slight build'...."}, {"response": 837, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 8, 2000 (21:16)", "body": "Not I!!! September 9, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Recovering from a minor illness may not be your favorite thing and as you feel better you are ready to get up and at 'em. Don't rush matters or you could have a set back; give it another day or two just to be sure. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A very good day to take the family out for some fun and games today as you and they do not spend near enough time together. Work has to come first but with some creative planning you can fit everyone into your schedule. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The twins are headed for double trouble today if you don't change course quickly. Two loves is not allowed and the real one won't put up with this state of affairs one day longer. Friends gather round for some backyard cooking that you are so well known for. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A secret yen to be a carpenter gets full exposure today as you do an excellent job on the new kitchen cabinets, to the pleasure and surprise of all who see them. Take some time off this afternoon to go fishing, you never know who you may meet by the waters edge. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your regal bearing and smooth manner draws the perfect part- ner for you today and love is on the horizon for you and the new interest. Take him or her with you on a whirl wind visit to the hot spots tonight and show this wonderful stranger in town the best sights. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Visiting relatives could turn into squabbling relatives un- less you step in and diplomatically solve the problem; con- sider putting late arrivals up in a local motel and preserve the peace in your household. Children should not be bounced from their private rooms, unless they offer. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Got a little 'monster' and don't quite know how to cope with him or her? Try having the I.Q. tested, you may be in for a big surprise and find out that the child is simply bored without any adequate challenges to occupy him or her. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Scorpio should watch out how they use their stinger today as pop the wrong one and it could cost you a position, income, and/or prestige loss in the workplace. Smiling a lot whether you feel like it or not can sometimes work wonders and, it makes them wonder what you've been up to. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Having a rough day? It may not be someones fault, it may be that you are just feeling under the weather and should spend today lazing around the house, alone, until you get to feel- ing better and less irritated. Don't go out in the rain and get wet today. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A really good day for boating and fishing but a chance of get- ting caught in a bad thunderstorm if you don't heed the warn- ings in the sky when they first start. Have fun, but practice safety first; especially if you have children out with you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Tit for tat. Yesterday, or last week, you helped someone and today that person is able to help you in a way you would never have dreamed possible as he/she knows the right contacts for your business and puts in a very good word for you. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Vanity, vanity, all is vanity said the Preacher in the bible, and today you almost prove it as you come very close to los- ing your job over a small amount of criticism concerning the work you do. Common sense clicks in though, before you go too far; your employer now has a new respect for the effort you made to achieve self control."}, {"response": 838, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 10, 2000 (19:06)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, September 10, 2000 Andie MacDowell: She is an outspoken Taurus who was a model and is now an actress. She expresses bitterness about the fact that the movie industry has few roles for older women. MacDowell asserts, ``I would stand next to any 41-year-old male actor, naked, and say, `I look just as good, if not better, than you do.' '' She wants producers to wake up and smell the coffee. An outspoken Taurus. ARIES (March 21-April 19): First rejection will be followed by acceptance, success. Pioneering spirit shines through. You win friends, admirers. Don't despair: Big things coming your way. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You will be called in to consult with professional superior. Don't go hat in hand. You've earned right to respect, reward. You'll be asked to write your impressions. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Lunar aspect coincides with philosophy, theology. Focus on advertising, promotion, publishing. Some, in surprised manner, ask, ``Where have you been all my life?'' CANCER (June 21-July 22): Play waiting game; don't tell all. Focus on mystery, intrigue, ability to entertain with magic tricks. Protect self in emotional clinches. Deception involved. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Spotlight on money, pressure, added responsibility. Questions arise concerning legal rights, partnership, marriage. Cancer native makes declaration of loyalty. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Finish what you start. Obtain funding for subjects that lack popularity. Emphasize sincerity. Participate in humanitarian projects. Aries is in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Shake off emotional lethargy. Plunge into the future. Imprint style -- don't follow others. Maintain creative control. Leo will play dramatic role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): If single, you could encounter future soul mate. Married or single, you will appreciate what you have and be thankful. Dinner will elevate morale. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Experiment; test the waters. Long-distance call tempts you to go to faraway place. You require more information -- say so. Financial situation shows improvement. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Emphasis on payments, collections, location of lost articles. Cycle high. You get what you go after. Taurus, Scorpio persons will play unforgettable roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): What had been held back will be released in your care. Be ready for change, travel, variety of experiences. Relationship serious. Respond accordingly. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Attention revolves around home, family member who wants to sing. Be gracious; don't encourage or discourage. Money becomes available. Decorate and remodel. IF SEPTEMBER 10 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an independent thinker, creative, dynamic, dramatic. People describe you as colorful, temperamental, sensual. Leo, Aquarius persons play memorable roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. During remainder of September, forces could be scattered, you will be flattered and very social. Travel, flirtation in November."}, {"response": 839, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sun, Sep 10, 2000 (19:08)", "body": "Marcia, come on over to our DBs Birthday party! I am going to post his horoscope there. Thanks!"}, {"response": 840, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 10, 2000 (19:09)", "body": "yeahyeahyeah...I've been here all along. Where have YOU been all of my life???"}, {"response": 841, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 10, 2000 (23:10)", "body": "Yikes!! It is CF's Birthday!!! Be right over... September 11, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Take care not to give a peer a short answer today as this could topple your image in the work place. A spouse could benefit from some extra attention. Deceptive trends today should cause you to be more protective of your assets, and play your cards close to your vest in love matters. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) This is not a good day to volunteer for extra work because you may take on more than you can handle and all your pro- jects would suffer because of it. Guard against any form of carelessness on the job today and be extra careful around machinery as there exists the possibility of a small accident that being alert can prevent. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Avoid all arguements and fights today at all costs. On other fronts, such as the performance of your work duties, you more than prove that you are a winner in that area, so much so that you may just get that raise you have been wanting. Celebrate with dinner and a movie. CANCER (June 22-July 22) This is a good day to shop around for a new car or truck, take your time and enjoy the experiance. While you are out and about you could run into an old pal that you lost touch with and spent the afternoon catching up with all the changes in each others lives. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Pay strict attention to the details of the self help idea you are thinking of trying. Under close examination this is not right for you. Your favorite charity drive starts today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Keep alert at work today as there are those who would be glad to see you stumble so they can be your replacement. Drinking and driving do not mix and you have a friend or loved one that may be in danger, so this is a good day to keep your ear to the ground regarding this matter. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) A friend needs to have a long talk with you and you should listen carefully and not let your temper flair; all that will be said, will be said with your welfare in mind. Be cautious with your spending today, especially in the area of luxury items for the home. You could overspend before you know it. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A loved one needs to be told of all your plans, not just part of them. You court disaster with this attitude when the whole thing is known; without proper preparation the chances are good you won't be agreed with. You have very extravagant urges today and could run to excesses if you are not on your toes all day. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Your intuition will be a big help to you on the job today as you seem to know what people want, or what they are go- ing to say, before they ask or say it. This could be un- nerving to others so play it down. Carelessness today could cost you, if you accidently mislay something that you value highly. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) A quiet discussion with all the cards on the table, and then a working game plan, can go far to put a cork in a lot of arguments. Money is the root of all evil or so they say. Today you may feel that this is so as you and the spouse always seem to be on the outs over it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Don't get overly sensitive today when someone gives you some criticism; you can learn a lot from it if you real- ly listen to what is said; believe me, you will be glad you did in the long run. Children are little Angels to- night which lets you get some needed rest. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) A good day to seek financing on all major purchases as people feel drawn to you as you have an air of respon- sibility about you which makes you seem very trust- worthy, (which you are). This is a great day for com- pleting those financial arrangements that you have had in the works for you very own business."}, {"response": 842, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (17:39)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, September 11, 2000 Joe Louis: Taurus natives can be laconic in their descriptions of experiences. Legendary Joe Louis, who held the heavyweight boxing championship for 12 years, is an example. After winning his fights by knockouts, he would declare, ``Just another lucky night.'' Taurus people are sentimental, romantic, basically shy. Taurus persons you might know include Glenn Ford, Andie MacDowell, Shirley MacLaine. ARIES (March 21-April 19): As result of stunning experiences, you win friends and influence people. Luck rides with you. Money comes from out of nowhere. Gemini plays fantastic role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Smooth over relationship with family member who of late has been temperamental, stubborn. Gift would help a great deal. Flowers, music are part of scenario. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Maintain aura of mystery. You'll be involved in secret maneuvers. Check Aries message. Define terms; wait and win. Pisces, Virgo persons in picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your kind of day. Emphasis on pressure, responsibility, financial reward. Relationship intense, dramatic, passionate. Question of marriage looms large. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Emphasize universal appeal. Question of travel overseas will arise. You are due for bigger things. Individual you helped in past will return favor. Aries represented. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Many will be surprised by fact that you take initiative and adhere to your own style. Don't be talked out of direct action -- it suits you. Enlightenment comes. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You have choices to make. Choose quality. Focus on partnership, cooperative efforts, marital status. Cancer native will prepare seafood dinner. Enjoy it. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Highlight diversity, versatility, humor. Money situation turns in your favor. Sagittarius involved. Give credit where due. Lost valuables will be returned. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Check Scorpio message. Credit that had been withheld will be given. Revise, rewrite, rebuild in your own style. Long-distance call relates to possible journey. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Write impressions. Take note of dreams. One dream could be doorway to future. Financial pressure relieved. You could win contest. Virgo is in picture. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Cycle high, you will be at right place at special moment. Take initiative in making appointments with people in positions of authority. Get ball rolling -- lucky roll. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Play waiting game. Some people want to know your secrets. Don't tell them. Deception involved: Protect self in emotional clinches. Do not give up something of value. IF SEPTEMBER 11 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are often confused, have changed your name on at least one occasion, possess intuitive intellect, are fascinated by astrology. Cancer, Capricorn persons play intriguing roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. During November, major domestic adjustments take place that could involve change of residence, marital status."}, {"response": 843, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (21:03)", "body": "oh no, i know aries, pisces, and virgo"}, {"response": 844, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (21:36)", "body": "Oh no...I know a canadian virgo...."}, {"response": 845, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (23:06)", "body": "YOUR DAILY HOROSCOPE: SEPTEMBER 12 Capricorn Phenomenon: He is a 24-year-old Capricorn who has become a legend in his own time. He's won major golf tournaments, has broken records and is regarded as a phenomenon. Tiger Woods has been playing golf since his parents put a golf club in his hand when he was 6 years old. Professional golfers and fans shake their heads in disbelief. Tiger Woods is that exceptional. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You help family members emerge from emotional shell. You exude warmth and can handle major domestic adjustment. Libra plays dominant role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You win friends and influence people. You do so almost effortlessly. Maintain aura of mystery, intrigue. You'll be urged to tell all, but don't. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on production, promotion, distribution. Spotlight on career, leadership, dealings with superiors. Your wit, humor gets you in and out of tight spots. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Strive for universal appeal. Toss aside preconceived notions. Focus on philosophy, theology, communication. Long-distance call verifies views. Do the right thing. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Check accounting procedures: computer error possible. Make fresh start. Take a plunge into future. Don't follow others, let them follow you. Another Leo involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): If single, you could encounter future soul mate. Focus on protection of property, family. Be near water if possible. Seafood dinner prepared by Cancer native. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diversify; give full play to intellectual curiosity. Co-worker shares fascinating discovery. New meaning of love for you. Sagittarian helps in arranging priorities. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): What had been a barrier will fall flat. You'll be tripping the light fantastic. People comment on your charm. Taurus, Leo individuals figure in exciting scenario. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be alert for subtle clues. Spotlight on change, travel, variety of sensations. Refuse to accept second best. You are going places. Read and write. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Attention revolves around home, family, possible change of residence, marital status. You will be ultra-sensitive to sound. Music is in the air. Number 6. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Lost valuable will be recovered. Focus on money, payments, collections, invoices. Outline boundaries. Define terms. See people, relationships in realistic manner. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Focus on involvement in many areas. Be especially cognizant of different ways of distribution. Love relationship sizzles. Virgo will play paramount role. IF SEPTEMBER 12 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are a many-sided person. People understand you one day and could misunderstand the next. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. During October, important domestic adjustment takes place -- could include actual change of residence, marital status. December will be your most memorable, romantic, profitable month of 2000."}, {"response": 846, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (23:08)", "body": "September 12, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This is a great day for your to break out of old habits that are holding you back. It's time to create something new for yourself -- don't be fearful. This new activity will come to fruition if you put the wheels in motion. It's as easy as making a phone call. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're trying to juggle too much right now and you're feeling a great amount of stress. Not only that, but you're not enjoying the process of what you're trying to accomplish. Learn how to say no to those who ask for more. You're going to miss a wonderful opportunity for yourself if you keep taking on others' responsibility. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Something comes to light that hurts you. A good friend has hidden something from you that makes you sad. You need to listen to your instinct about the information you'll be getting over the next few days. Someone will be telling you only part of the story -- ask questions until you are satisfied. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces While material things are always nice, you can't hold on to everything you have. You don't have time to enjoy all the riches you have so this would be a good time to clear out old things that you don't use anymore. You'll find someone will benefit from your generosity."}, {"response": 847, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (23:31)", "body": "September 12, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) News from a distant town may give you cause for reflection. A minor injury may keep you off your feet today but you get a chance to see just how much everyone loves and appreciates you as the offers of help and good wishes come pouring in. This makes you very happy. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Compassion towards a fellow employee today is recommended, as this person really needs a shoulder to cry on and someone who can give some sound advice. By helping this person you will make a good friend for life who may be able to help you in your career, as unknown to you, he/she is a relative of the owners. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You will be the recipient of some secret today and you are trusted not to utter a word of it. You are known for your honor and keeping your word so this person feels safe in telling you. This secret may be concerning a family member and you are highly tempted to tell, but you don't. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your adventure out of town has ended and you are glad to be home. You come back with an added bonus though. A new love that has already called and you are planning his/her visit to you. This could be the one person you want to spend the rest of your life with. Married ones share more joy than ever. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You are good at sticking to the job at hand, but don't for- get to loosen up from time to time. You seem to be in some- what of a rut, and friends and family insist that you go out and do something entertaining. Go ahead, you have earned the right to relax and kick up your heels. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) The romance you once thought would last forever, starts to crumble and you are not too disturbed about it, as you also felt things were going from bad to worse in the relationship. Under these stars you will have to work hard at keeping even a long term marriage intact, but it is do-able. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Today the family pulls together and you find problems dropping like flies as you solve them quickly so you can get on with the real business---making money. Harebrained schemes and pie in the sky dreams are not for you as you deal strictly from an logical position. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Computer problems may have thrown you behind and you spend much time catching up. Today all your people skills are in place and activated as you deal with employees and their problems as re- lated to their work. Be sure you do not deviate and interfere with the life they live when not on duty. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Best not to take all the credit and that way you will not be taking all the blame. Sometimes running the show is not what it is cracked up to be. Especially when the show starts to have problems. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) A coworker is out sick and you are called on to head up a new project in that persons place. Your supervisor gets the chance to see just how good you are at what you do, and puts you in for an immediate raise and promotion. Family and friends plan a small celebration in honor of you and your good fortune. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Your plans for travel come together now and you are on your way. A recent partnership with a close friend is beginning to show signs of strain. This person is highly creative and that is why you wanted him or her in the beginning. Try not to strangle the very thing your business needs. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You are called upon today to get the ball rolling for your favorite charity and you make a good job of it. Today is good for curbing your impatience and letting someone else win. You are a capable person and hate to take a backseat, but it is best for you to do so at this time."}, {"response": 848, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (23:33)", "body": "Day late about the secret...but it involves my son... =)"}, {"response": 849, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 12, 2000 (20:21)", "body": "September 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A financial matter should be resolved today and the results will be just what you wanted. Your friendships could bring you some unexpected benefits before the day is over. Don't get so wound up in self and the immediate happenings that you neglect to be considerate of a partners feelings. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Today should be very productive on the job for you as you put forth new ideas with enthusiasms and logic. Later on in the day you may be met with open opposition from someone who has been in competition with you for a long time. Never fear, your points make the most sense and so do you. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You should be hearing good news from a business associate or other, in regards to a contract which you have been waiting for. A teenager or a child is showing some positive improve- ments in the academic arena and this gives you a feeling of happiness that hangs in there all day. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Do not be too surprised tonight when a quarrel erupts with a good friend as this has been festering for awhile, try to keep your cool and just walk away. You come up with a lucky break today where your job is concerned; just when you thought everything was lost providence steps in and takes a stand. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Take a loved one out to dinner, you will both benefit. Your career are right on the money today, but be prepared for a change in the method as you find a better way to the same goal, remember, you do not have to reinvent the wheel, some- times the easy way really is the best way. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) Financing is easy for you to come by today, so take some time to get that chore in hand. This is a fine day for getting organized and planning the completion of your renovation pro- ject. Be sure to check out any changes in plans you have with the spouse, this will save a quarrel later on. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Tonight may bring a change of plans in you pleasure pursuits but you will find that it is for something even better. If a lover or a spouse seems preoccupied today it would be best to let them alone until he or she is ready to confide in you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You may be fighting a bad mood today but you will be able to keep it out of sight so it does not show at work. Being de- pressed is something that happens to a lot of people for various reasons and you have your turn at it. Your problems with a loved one should be over soon, thus alleviating your blue mood. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Life just got better when you hear that a certain person is back in town. A friend who turns you on to a proposition may not realize that it is worthless, and may even give you the hard sell, do both of you a favor and check it out thoroughly before you leap into it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) The property sale is in the bag and you get the good news today. The other side of the coin, the property you wish to buy with the proceeds are also within your reach. Friends will be more than happy to help you spend part of your money but in this case, leave it in the bank and go 'dutch treat'. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Family matters maybe what is affecting your performance, and if this is so, it would be best to meet them head on and get them out of the way; compromise works wonders. Afternoon and maybe morning delays will hinder your job performance today but you have a solid reputation with your company so an off day once in a while won't be held against you. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) You manage to make it through a very hectic day and find the spouse has planned some quiet entertainment for the evening and you are ready to relax. While your finances are looking up, you will find some unexpected expenses also crop up today to give you an 'excedren #5'."}, {"response": 850, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (00:48)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope For September 13 Rik Smits: He is a 7-foot-4-inch Virgo basketball star. His playing number is 45. He was born in Holland. Smits is agile and a great asset to his team, the Indiana Pacers. He has played professionally for 11 years and is retiring this year. When the 265-pound player advances toward the basket, members of the opposing team get out of his way. In two years Smits will be in business for himself, successfully. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Full Moon in your Twelfth House. Have some time alone so that you can meditate. Play waiting game. Protect privacy. Do not confide or confess. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You have waited for this day. Focus on promotion, distribution, added responsibility. Relationship serious. Know when to say, ``Enough is enough.'' GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look beyond the immediate. Check possibility of overseas jaunt. You will be aided in new project by Aries. Sales ability zooms. You will win friends. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Make fresh start. Let hangers-on know that your home is not a restaurant. Help others to fend for themselves. A different kind of romance is on the horizon. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Lunar position has hidden mysteries. Focus also on issues relating to sale or purchase of property, partnership and marriage. Cancer native plays amazing role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You could be the talk of the town. Many persons express surprise at your ability to come back after apparent defeat. Funding will be made available. Gemini involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Dig deep for information. Don't be discouraged by naysayers. Use words to your advantage. Read, write, teach. Taurus, Scorpio persons figure prominently. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Be ready for change of direction, itinerary. Ask questions; obtain answers, not evasions. Love relationship more serious than originally anticipated. Virgo represented. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Fix things at home. Beautify surroundings. Flowers and music featured. Those who said you would fall are eating crow. You succeed, will be rewarded handsomely. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Define terms. Outline boundaries; avoid self-deception. Steer clear of traffic tangles and resulting arguments. Lunar position emphasizes intelligence, solutions. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You asked for more responsibility and now you get it. Emphasis on money and how to get more of it. In major dispute you emerge victorious. Cancer native involved. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Lunar position highlights personality, ability to be at right place at crucial moment. Focus also on romance, creativity, education. Aries, Libra persons play roles. IF SEPTEMBER 13 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You were mentally, emotionally on your own at relatively early age. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play key roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. Before September is finished, you make important domestic adjustment that could include change of residence, marital status. November will be your most creative, romantic, profitable month of 2000."}, {"response": 851, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (00:48)", "body": "Oh heavens, my sister is an Aries..."}, {"response": 852, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (00:58)", "body": "Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker of the Day: I used to live alone, then I got a divorce! Gemini, be sure to look up at the Harvest Moon tonight. It's a Full Moon. In the old days, after working together to get their crops in for the winter, farm families gathered under the Harvest Moon to sing, dance and play the night away. It did wonders for their Community Spirit. The Full Moon is in the sign of Pisces. Pisces symbolizes our instinctual awareness that there is more to life than merely living our everyday existence and going about our ordinary business. Call it \"the power of imagination,\" \"psychic intuition,\" \"spiritual consciousness,\" or whatever you want - we all have the Pisces experience in some ways and at one time or another. Today, Gemini, the beams of the Pisces Harvest Moon are shining upon your Tenth House. The Tenth House symbolizes everything to do with your CAREER, your BOSS, AUTHORITY figures, and anyone who has power over you. Here's a suggestion for harnessing the energy of the Harvest Moon and putting it to good use in your life! As often as you can, say to yourself, with feeling and with conviction: \"I do not want, and I do not need, to feel guilty or ashamed about the kind of work I do - or about standing up for myself in front of my superiors. I choose to believe there's a Higher Power in my life. I trust This Power will empower me to MOVE ON when my job becomes so boring or routine that I can no longer stand it.\" Gemini, tonight, as you look up at the big, bright and beautiful Harvest Moon, let it remind you to be grateful for the wonderful people in your life with whom you can sing, dance and play the night away. If you can't celebrate with them in person, be sure to join with them in Spirit."}, {"response": 853, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (00:59)", "body": "Sept 13th above and this too: Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"Parents are often so busy with the physical rearing of children that they miss the glory of parenthood, just as the grandeur of the trees is lost when raking leaves.\" - Marcelene Cox Cancer, be sure to look up at the Harvest Moon tonight. It's a Full Moon. In the old days, after working together to get their crops in for the winter, farm families gathered under the Harvest Moon to sing, dance, and play the night away. It did wonders for their Community Spirit. The Full Moon is in the Sign of Pisces. Pisces symbolizes our instinctual awareness that there is more to life than merely living our everyday existence and going about our ordinary business. Call it \"the power of imagination,\" \"psychic intuition,\" \"spiritual consciousness,\" or whatever you want - we all have the Pisces experience in some ways and at one time or another. Today, Cancer, the beams of the Pisces Harvest Moon are shining upon your Ninth House. The Ninth House symbolizes everyone and everything that has to do with helping you find your way in life. Here's a suggestion for harnessing the energy of the Harvest Moon and putting it to good use in the Ninth House area of your life! As often as you can, say to yourself, with feeling and with conviction: \"I choose to follow my own moral and spiritual path through life. I choose to not feel guilty or ashamed if my path is different from that of my parents or family. I choose to feel good about myself, even if no one else does. I believe there's a Higher Power in my life. I trust It will empower me to depend entirely upon my Self if I must. Cancer, tonight, as you look up at the big, bright and beautiful Harvest Moon, let it remind you to be grateful for your parents, your children, and all the wonderful people in your life with whom you can sing, dance and play the night away. If you can't celebrate with them in person, be sure to join with them in Spirit."}, {"response": 854, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (03:00)", "body": "Singing and dancing ......"}, {"response": 855, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (14:02)", "body": "September 13, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You help solve a client problem at work today so pat yourself on the back. This is only the tip of the iceberg so don't get comfortable. You have a lot of work ahead of you, especially since you made it look so easy the first time. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A situation that is making you upset can be solved easily if you can see past the problem and look at the whole picture. Listen to your intuition because your angels are trying to give you signals but you can't see them. This situation will become crystal clear -- look for numbers. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You need to take time to get your bearings. It's okay that you need to be alone for a while -- you've had a rough time recently. Relax and recharge your energy because you have to deal with some new social situations coming your way. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You wouldn't want someone to judge you on one incident. Why are you doing this to your peer? You should get to know the person behind the mask. What makes you think that they don't have the wrong impression about you?"}, {"response": 856, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (17:25)", "body": "indeed!"}, {"response": 857, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 14, 2000 (19:04)", "body": "September 14, 2000 YOUR DAILY HOROSCOPE FOR SEPTEMBER 14 Charley Pride: The legendary country music singer is a Pisces who likes basketball. This year he will be the first black to be voted into the Country Music Hall of Fame. Pride says, ``I'm happy to be in the Hall of Fame next to those I love, and I don't care if they are pink.'' Pride could have been a professional baseball player, but instead he became a country music star. He is 62-years-old. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Within 24 hours cycle moves up. Circumstances turn in your favor. You will receive credit long overdue, and cash. Cancer, Capricorn persons play roles. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): What you abandoned two months ago will be back in picture. You could get international recognition. Emphasize universal appeal. Toss aside preconceived notions. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Individual in position of authority sings your praises. Be grateful, not obsequious. Sudden recognition could catch you by surprise. Leo plays exciting role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Focus on home, family, decision relating to marital status. Individual in foreign land communicates, has something to tell you. Be receptive, not naive. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Highlight diversity, versatility, ability to entertain. Sense of humor surges to forefront. Maintain aura of mystery. Check accounting procedures. Gemini involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Opposition will be battered down. Be confident. Rebuild; stick to your own style. Those who say otherwise are not well-informed. Taurus, Scorpio are in picture. (Continued...) f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f ** Shopping Safari Sweepstakes!! ** Register for free to win a $2500 gift certificate to Amazon.com! http://websponsors.com/cgi-bin/ad_click.cgi?userid=23497&offerid=1143 f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Emphasis on ability to get ideas across. Spotlight reading and writing, learning through process of teaching. Virgo individual wants to be your ally. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Stress harmony. Your voice is different, melodious. People comment favorably on your efforts. You'll receive gift. Show appreciation without being obsequious. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look behind scenes for answers. Someone is following you but means no harm. Stop, smile, let it be known by saying, ``Enough.'' Be sure that building material is first class. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Your kind of day. Scenario features wide range, from apparent failure to rousing success. Emphasis on business, career, promotion. Cancer native will be on your side. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): What was started and then abandoned will now be finished. You gain added recognition as result. Aries, Libra persons will figure in intriguing ways. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You gain enlightenment for yourself and others. Areas previously dark benefit from your presence. Make fresh start. Imprint style -- don't follow others. Stress original thinking. IF SEPTEMBER 14 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have inclination to write, to follow through on that inclination. You would make an excellent psychologist, teacher, astrologer. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. During October, you will be involved personally and professionally -- nothing halfway. You could be dealing with high finance."}, {"response": 858, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 14, 2000 (19:06)", "body": "Oops, sorry about that ad... September 14, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today is a good day to schedule meetings and conference calls. Communication is easy so you will get a lot accomplished. Someone who you usually can't get in touch with comes to you! Get the group involved too -- a new directive will become part of company policy. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You have to stop saying, \"If I just had...\" One thing is not going to solve your problems and make you less fearful about the future. Even though you feel like something is missing in your life, nothing other than looking inside is going to make you feel better about where you are right now. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra While you have the upper hand in a personal situation, don't think things can just be status quo. If you step back from the situation, you'll lose control of your standing. Things are under control but make sure you maintain your emotions and check in with that Gemini. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Everything and everyone you come in contact with today is in harmony. It's a day with no efforts in trying to communicate or get things done. Since you are feeling so happy and loving today, why don't you make a phone call and spread the joy?"}, {"response": 859, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 14, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "September 14, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) There may be some confusion over a change of plans. It would be best to write things down or you will be going in the opposite direction and miss an important event which could spell success to your career. Play it safe. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) A loved one may be having personal problems, this gets you depressed as you know the truth and this person refuses to take your word for it. Get over it before you get to work as this could affect your job performance and, like most storms, it will be over by dinner time. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You ask for and get a good raise which will go far in provid- ing for everyone. A relative needs to tell you her troubles now and you listen. A new member of the family may bring on extra work and responsibilities but that doesn't make the joy any less that you feel in your heart. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Accept nothing on the strength of what someone tells you; delve into the facts until you know the truth. Your intuition will be your guide and your guard today as you go about your work a day world. Children and domestic affairs will keep you hopping in the evening. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You are mentally stimulated today as you ponder the mysteries and wonders of life and begin a long study of spirtuality. Your interests may even lie in the occult but you will find that even that path leads back to God. Angels are again in your dreams. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) You are very good at self expression today, and you use this to your advantage in many different ways. Writing is only one of the things favored for you. This is also a good time to pursue educational interests on your own and you may even consider a change in careers. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Don't let your domestic quarreling upset you so much that your work suffers. A boss could be taking notes. Tension at home runs high as you and the spouse disagree on how the spendable cash is to be spent. You will soon have this little matter cleared up and wonder what the big deal was. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) A certain someone is taking up all your thoughts and you dream about spending your life with them, its called love! Take special care you do not let your daydreaming interfere with your productivity today. Close family members plan a surprise for you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) A close friend may have gotten their toes stepped on a time or two when they have tried to offer you help and advice so don't be surprized if they seem reticent about helping or advising you today. A little honey will catch the flies and put them back in your corner. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) A consultation with a financial expert is in order for today as you find your success growing so rapidly that you could use some sound advice in the financial allocation area. Seek experience, longevity of service, and reputation. Reach an understanding with a teenager tonight. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Sometimes you can talk until you are blue in the face and still not get through to a person. Today you will find yourself frus- trated in this manner. Each of us must follow our own path and if you cannot dissuade a person then that is his or her destiny and they must then help themselves. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) This could be a good day to force the issue of your further education and or job training that you have talked about in the past. Use tact though, or you will damage someones feel- ings and it could be twice as long in coming to you. A friend at work could help get your point accross."}, {"response": 860, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 14, 2000 (19:09)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope For Friday September 15, 2000 Winning Virgo: He is a Virgo who has been dubbed ``the winning coach.'' He apparently has the magic to transform the ordinary into the extraordinary. He is Virgo Phil Jackson. Of late he has coached the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team into the World Championship. People ask, ``How does he do it?'' Whatever he does, it works, making him the winning coach. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Cycle high. Take initiative. You will be at right place at special time almost effortlessly. Ride with the tide. Don't get in your own way. Libra represented. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Make fresh start. Permit heart to rule head. Romantic side of your nature surges forth. Don't follow others. Let them follow you. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Slow down. Focus on building material, home, family, ability to plan next step. Individual you helped in past is now ready to return favor. Capricorn involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Highlight diversity, versatility, generosity. Obtain hint from Gemini message. Social activities accelerate: Popularity zooms. Sagittarian plays role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You might be shouting, ``Strike up the band.'' You will celebrate breakthrough. Shake off lethargy. Get into the game of your life. Scorpio involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You'll be in the news, making news. Excellent for reading, writing, learning through process of teaching. In a way, your kind of day. Gemini represented. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Gentle approach brings desired results. Flowers, music involved. Highlight diplomacy. Taurus, another Libra will be on your side. Domestic adjustment featured. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Hold back; play waiting game. What you desire will be handed on the proverbial silver platter. Deception involved. Protect self in emotional clinches. Pisces featured. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Make this a power-play day. Pressure will be on. You'll be up to it. Focus on priorities, organization, distribution. Cancer, Capricorn persons play roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Look beyond the immediate. Utilize prophetic powers to forecast future. Spiritual values involved along with invitation to travel. Aries figures prominently. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Put aside preconceived notions. Highlight inventiveness, original thinking. You'll be approached romantically by ambitious Leo. Don't give in too quickly. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Funding becomes available. Pursue favorite project. Lost valuables will be located. Time to celebrate. Cancer, Capricorn persons will play dynamic roles. IF SEPTEMBER 15 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have unusual voice, appreciate music, are loyal to family, often disregard your own opportunities in favor of loved ones. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play fascinating roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. Before September ends, you could be involved in deal featuring high finance. November features fresh start."}, {"response": 861, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 14, 2000 (22:50)", "body": "September 15, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You could make some sad or even bad mistakes in judgment today if you allow yourself to become overenthusiastic about certain related business matters. This is a day when deceptive trends prevail for some of the signs and you need to be cautious and guard against taking advantage of someone, or having someone take advantage of you. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Stay alert and on your toes today as the need is to protect your- self against some adverse trends, especially where people on a one to one basis is concerned; you could easily be taken advan- tage of if you are not sharp. Don't tell all you know today, play it close. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) You too should also be made aware of the deceptive trends in todays stars as you run into some adverse reactions at work. Don't be too quick to judge someone today as things are not as bad as they look. Be alert for scam artists who may want to do a lot of home repair work for a tiny price. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Don't overlook important points today as this could be your undoing; be sure to go over everything with a fine toothed comb before presenting it. Avoid any form of gambling or risk taking today as you could lose, big time. Romance sings in the evening. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Going into the other side of the zodiac puts you in the middle of the turning point from the deceptive trends and what you could encounter is a day of confusion, things that should go right but just don't quite make it without a long drawn out session. This might be a good day to just go fishing. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) What seems like a good deal to you today may not be. Check everything out carefully before you give the go ahead to a project that is iffy at the best of times. Don't let a pretty face or a goodlooking body turn your head today, as that could be the last straw for your marriage. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Today you are quite the charmer and you will find many doors to opportunity opening up for you that you could not pre- viously have knocked down with a sledgehammer. Take full advantage of your good fortune today and pick the one that will suit you the best. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) You will find some of your problems are getting solved but you are not quite sure how. Don't worry about it, these are the results of something you started a long time ago and the snowball just caught up; the cause and effect scenario. Romance is all around you today. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) Don't daydream today unless you do it on your own time, it could be hazardous to your employment. Weekend plans stand a good chance of being changed before the day is out and, truthfully, that would suit you just fine. Be sure to opt for an alternative that everyone can live with. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Plan to getaway early this weekend as your method of working today gets your ideas across and your work finished early; giving you time to slip away and get started. Be sure that the car is in good repair before you start out as car trouble can go a long way towards ruining any trip. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) You may be tempted to rush someones decision on an important matter today, but don't do it. This could have some far reach- ing ramifications which you will greatly regret. Be patient and you will get the right decision, be impatient and you will have to live with the one you do get. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) So you have your new home, you are all moved in, and now comes the fun part....decorating! Be very careful that you do not go overboard on your spending, or be too quick to take the first things you see. Spend more than one day in coordinating every- thing, as you will have to live with your choices for a long time."}, {"response": 862, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 14, 2000 (22:52)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Lay the solid foundation to build on later by sorting out ideas and thoughts. Today is a good day for reflection, not for implementation. Do not start anything new or make any decisions -- they will not last. Review old proposals and do research -- the web would be a great place to start. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Destiny is working in your favor and nothing is happening by chance. Wheels are in motion and you'll have a chance in attitude. Don't be scared of the unknown -- it is going to unfold in a positive situation for you. A brown-eyed girl is going to help you develop while you train her on a new program. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Yes, you are isolating yourself today. Tell your friends you need a day off. While you might think it is a good idea to go out with a group, you're going to get irritated easily if you do. Take a raincheck and go home. Your friends might hound you but they will understand later on. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces This world is full of change and it will be easier if you integrate the new information you have received. You'll find while this may be the result of something you had nothing to do with, you'll have the easier time implementing the new directive."}, {"response": 863, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 16, 2000 (12:20)", "body": "September 16, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A new goal may seem tempting and you are ready to scrap the one that you have been working towards for something that sounds more exciting to you, but it would be wise to take a lot of time to think before you take such a drastic step. Dealing with an opinionated person today could cause a few sparks as you are highly opinionated yourself. TAURUS (Apr. 20- may 20) Today your financial prospects take a turn for the better even though you may think differently because of a financial matter that has been a headache trying to solve; this will see an agreement come forth today that all parties can live with. Keep a cool head. GEMINI (May 21-June 21) Your intuition is very strong today, you must be careful that you do not freak people out by answering questions before they are asked! Today you get a chance to display your executive ability and you excel in the job. This could mean a big pro- motion with a substantial wage increase. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You and a spouse, or other loved one, click like mad today as you are finally tuned into the same wave length and the vibes are flowing. The esp is really strong between the two of you and past grievances are forgotten in a new found loving interest in one another. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A change in position may be in the stars for you today, maybe even a change to a whole new company! You are always in there plugging and you manage to make the best deal possible for yourself. Investment interests are also looking prosperous today, you are likely to see a return on your capital. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 22) This is a good day to take your loved one out to a movie, or a concert, and soak up some culture along with some peace and quite after a busy week at work. Plan some fun activities with the family if there are children in the home, preferably where you can keep the seat of a comfortable lounge chair warm. LIBRA (Sept. 23 -Oct. 23) Try not to get involved in an argument with a person whose has his or her mind made up, especially if it is a spouse or you will have a long term, running fuss on your hands. A good com- promise beats an argument any day, and almost insures that you will wind up getting your own way. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 21) Your ideas are sound, and with cool logic you will be able to get this across. Even though you and a partner may see eye to eye on everything else don't expect a quick agreement on your latest idea which involves spending funds that have been al- located in another department. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22 -Dec. 21) You have a hunch today that is right on the money but it must be presented with confidence, not aggression. This is not a good day to have a confrontation with an authority figure as you may not come out of it looking good. You and your spouse finally get your problem solved. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 19) Take the afternoon to round up the kids, or your friends, and head for some fun in the sand and the sun, this is a perfect day for it. Look for a breakthrough today on the problem that has had you stymied for so long, the solution will amaze you in its simplicity. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20 -Feb. 18) Friends may seem difficult to interact with today but don't blame them, it could be that you have your mind on ten thousand other things and it puts you out of sorts. Try spending some time alone to get your thoughts back in con- trol and you will find that the problem you thought was so world shaking really isn't a problem after all. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20) Someone you think you know well may be manipulating you, or trying to. Don't fall for the line they are handing out today; show him or her that you are too smart to be used. Evening brings romance to the single, and a new found close- ness to the married."}, {"response": 864, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Sep 16, 2000 (12:47)", "body": ""}, {"response": 865, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Sep 16, 2000 (12:47)", "body": "(Marcia look in your email on this topic...)"}, {"response": 866, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 16, 2000 (22:31)", "body": "Did - thanks!!! Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, September 17, 2000 Since You Asked: ``How about some mention of George Raft, his sign and your comments!'' -- Ray Korman, Trenton, N.J. Response: He was a headline actor for many years, especially during the Depression. George Raft, a Libran, had a reputation for hanging out with gangsters prior to becoming a movie star. He portrayed roles opposite the beautiful Sylvia Sidney, he was always the underdog. George Raft -- durable Libran! ARIES (March 21-April 19): Focus on payments, collections. Lost article located; you will know who took it in first place. Be grateful it was returned. Cancer native involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Cycle high; judgment, intuition on target. Wear shades of blue; make personal appearances. Meet with superior. Gemini, Sagittarius persons figure in scenario. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Revise, review, rewrite. Make this your make-over day. Tear down in order to rebuild. People comment, ``You look different today!'' Scorpio plays role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Obtain hint from Gemini message. Take note of dreams, impressions you receive from others. What begins as flirtation could become something much more. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Emphasis on where you live, marital status, gift you receive from relative. Focus on art objects, flowers, music. Romance will be major part of scenario. Libra involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Protect self in clinches. You don't have complete story, element of deception involved. Play waiting game, better offer due soon. Pisces plays role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Focus on power, promotion, production, distribution. Capricorn takes fighting position. Emphasize peace, music, intelligent concessions. Line up priorities. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You posses gift of predicting your own future. What you desire is available if you will only but look. Deal gingerly with Aries, finish what you start. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Let go of previous fears, doubts. Take cold plunge into future, wear bright colors, make personal appearances. Co-worker shares joyous news. Leo is in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Questions concerning partnership, marriage dominate. Take special care near water, including swimming pool. You will be told you are loved. Control blushing. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You could be talk of the town. Someone suggests that you try being a stand-up comedian. You make people laugh even through their grief. Gemini represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Refuse to be tied up by red tape. Inform bureaucrats, ``I've learned to do what I must do. Clear the decks!'' Taurus, Leo, Scorpio play interesting roles. IF SEPTEMBER 17 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: When pressure is on you are up to it. You are capable of solving mathematical problems, of pushing aside red tape. When you love it is all or nothing. Capricorn, Cancer persons play fascinating roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. Flirtation, romance toward end of this month. Emphasis in October will be on business partnership, marriage."}, {"response": 867, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 17, 2000 (21:20)", "body": "September 18, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A bit early in the year for outdoor activities but if the weather allows you will find a lot of outdoorsy things that you would rather be doing than you can shake a stick at. Take the kids somewhere in the evening; maybe for some pizza? TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A good day for you but one that is rather on the slow side as you feel more like relaxing than working. Don't get too comfortable as there could be a flurry of activity which you will be in the middle of by this afternoon. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You may feel like doing the three p's today: plowing, plant- ing and planning for your spring garden. Best to hold off for a couple of more weeks as the weather is still subject to turn bad again. Just stick to the planning for now. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Being everyones taxi doesn't leave you with much free time for yourself; try charging for gas and you will find about half of them are suddenly not interested in going anywhere. A friend may be in trouble tonight so you help him/her out. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Being overly critical today will not work in your favor as this only serves to make someone highly resentful, and in this case, vengeful. It is best to give a compliment where possible and save the criticism for a later date. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Get off your high horse and damp down that natural feeling of superiority to zero as no matter how hard you try to hide it you will show it at the wrong time and ruin any chance of advancement in your present employment. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Those who work in the personal services arenas are the ones spotlighted today as this could be a very fortunate day for you and the chances of a better income or a better job goes way up. Don't let customers see past a polite smiling face no matter how you feel. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) While you are usually the most understanding person in the world with your children, this time you and your teenager may clash over some very important issues. Instead of is- suing an edict you should consider all angles and express yourself in helpful terms. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A fender bender today could spoil the good mood you were in but you have the insurance to cover it so put it out of your mind and don't make others around you keep suf- fering through it with you. While they are sympathetic, they can get bored. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Learning to be more considerate of your spouse and/or other loved ones could be the order of the day as your mind has been so distracted with other things lately that you have been giving them very little thought and attention. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) There is a chance that you will be swept off your feet by a stranger that sets your heart pounding and your heart reeling right from the first \"hello\" to the \"see ya later\". Isn't it wonderful that he/she is moving in next door? PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A visiting friend may cause a rift in your family life by his/her presence. The wise thing to do would be to get this friend to a motel until this problem can be talked out with family members. Chances are there is a misunderstanding."}, {"response": 868, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 17, 2000 (21:23)", "body": "For someone living where I live....this is so wrong..!!!"}, {"response": 869, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 18, 2000 (00:55)", "body": "September 18, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You'll be receiving an unexpected message but don't let it upset you. You can talk this out with a great communicator -- possibly an Aquarius. This person will show you all sides of the situation so you can make the best decision. Talk it out so you don't agonize over it. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're going to meet an Aries today who is going to help you get to the next level. He has so much focus on work he will help you get focused on what needs to get done. Listen to his ideas and suggestions -- you will find he can help make things run more efficiently. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A Virgo will bring out your competitive nature today. Keep your mind open, even it's obvious they're trying to impress the boss. Keep your cool -- this person will give you the opportunity to wow the boss. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today is the day to formulate the plan for a new item you want to obtain. This may mean picking up a second job or cutting back on your spending significantly. Whatever the case, by doing this, you'll get to your goal much quicker."}, {"response": 870, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 18, 2000 (00:57)", "body": "Like this one better...I know 2 Virgos, but the one did this little thing today... Hmmmm..."}, {"response": 871, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 18, 2000 (19:48)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday, September 19, 2000 Gentle Giant: He is 7-foot-1, weighs 315 pounds. He is a Pisces whom many claim is the mainstay of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team. Despite his height and weight, Shaquille O'Neal is swift and accurate. He will travel more than usual in 2001; he makes serious domestic adjustment in December. His demeanor is serious, foreboding -- but his real nature is gentle. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Be especially careful in traffic. Relative seeks your help in straightening out tangled financial affairs. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Money you have coming to you has been delayed en route. You'll receive what has been promised. Overcome temptation to confuse generosity with extravagance. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Attention revolves around home, confrontation with family member who has been taking you for granted. Cycle high, you will be at right place at special moment. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Pull your punches. Time is on your side, play waiting game. Element of deception present; you may not be seeing too clearly. Pisces plays mysterious role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Those who thought you would be a push-over will be sorely disappointed. Organize priorities, get working plan in order. Relationship intense, controversial. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Look beyond the immediate, analyze prospects. Let go of burden you should not have assumed in first place. Open lines of communication. Aries represented. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): New plan involves change of itinerary. Creative juices stir. Don't follow others, lead the way. You could be hearing a new type of music. Listen closely. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Check directions, be aware of true motivation. If single, you encounter future soul mate. Married or single, decision is reached concerning ultimate destination. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Diversify, shake off emotional lethargy. Take cold plunge into the future. Focus on humor, versatility, different wardrobe. Gemini will play dynamic role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Revise, rewrite, rebuild -- this is your make-over day. People comment, \"Never saw you looking so good.\" You might be thinking, \"You never really bothered to look.\" AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Be ready for quick changes, travel, variety, consultation with another Aquarian. Read and write, learn by teaching. You might be attending a seance, perhaps in fun. PISCES (Feb. 18-March 20): Be positive structure of building is solid. Attention revolves around family, ability to beautify surroundings. Flowers, music part of scenario. Libra involved. IF SEPTEMBER 19 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are creative, temperamental, independent, an original thinker. You also are sensual, willing always to take chance on romance. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. Social activities of late have accelerated. During October, you attend to details which previously escaped your attention."}, {"response": 872, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 18, 2000 (20:18)", "body": "September 19, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) The new exercise program is starting to pay off in lower weight and more poise and gracefulness, keep at it. Sign a child up for some karate lessons today to help him/her learn self con- trol and give them the ability to defend themselves. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Stay in control today. Don't make a big purchase on a whim and then have to struggle to make ends meet for months to pay it off. Learning to sucessfully manage your income is one of the hard lessons that you must learn to succeed in life. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You and your spouse may be thinking of adopting a child or becoming foster parents. This is a wonderful idea as long as you have lots of love to offer and a stable home environ- ment. The rest of the family is pleased with your decision. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Sports is a big thing for you and you like them all! Just be careful you do not neglect someone special while you are glued to the tv set. If you are a player you may see an interest shown in your abilities by those who count. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone close to you may be having some problems but seeing this person every day may cause you not to notice. Look closely and and be more observant so this person knows that he/she can lean on you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) If you are in the services there is a chance that you will get your orders for transfer overseas today. Don't worry, this will be a place where you can relocate your whole family and really enjoy the tour of duty. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Taking a bad attitude with a loved one is not conducive to making the relationship last very long. Be the eagle today and soar above the lower, baser urges of humanity and spend your time building people up, not tearing them apart. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't take it lying down! This is not the right day to give in to others when it is going against your best interests. Give as good as you get today and you will see a marked rise in respect from a certain person. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) So, you may have got dumped. So what? It happens all the time and this time you are lucky that it happened to you because yes, a lot of the rumors you heard were true. A new love will be entering your life just any time now and then you will understand just how lucky you are. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A shakeup at work could leave a good opening that you are just right for. Stand up and ask for it as that is the only way you will get it, hurry though, as someone could beat you to the punch. A good night for relaxing and kick- ing back. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today you put aside all other thoughts when a friend or loved one comes to you for haven and help. You go all out and let this person move in. Remember there is another half of the match running around mad as can be. First sign of trouble dial 911. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You may be all ready for the parties to begin but your other half could be in the mood to stay home and cuddle. It would be wise to get in the cuddling mood yourself as there have already been enough parties to make things a little shaky at home."}, {"response": 873, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 18, 2000 (23:53)", "body": "September 19, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn What you have been hoping for is now coming into reality. However, you need to put some plans together before you set the ball in motion. This will turn out to be a money making opportunity to tie up any loose ends -- you'll need references for new clients. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You can no longer go on thinking you can live your life the way you are. You need to confront your fears and problems with a significant other so things can change for the better. If you don't confront this, you won't get the closeness you are longing for. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra While you have found the reason for your self-doubt, it's time to let go of what's in the past. This is going to be an emotional process so be ready to have some ups and downs emotionally. It's time to open your heart and release what you don't need anymore. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Have you been listening to your mentor lately? While he may be an intense person, this would be the best time to listen to his advice. Your mentor is going to help you immensely by going to bat for you with someone who is skeptical of your abilities."}, {"response": 874, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 19, 2000 (22:58)", "body": "Spetember 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Delays, snafus and mixups plague you today as nothing seems to get anywhere on time or to the right person. Quitting early, if you can get away with it, seems like the best idea going. Tomorrow will be better. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may make some friends or meet a potential mate as you spend the day socializing. Look for some major personal developments today to bring on major changes in your life, all for the bet- ter, as your luck is still holding. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Problems that have kept you upset lately finally get cleared up and you are in a fantastic mood, you know now that you are on the right track in your affairs. Family and friends plan a sur- prise tonight and you will be the honored guest. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Just because you are on cloud nine over your great good luck don't let it get the best of your good sense, you could come up with some wild ideas at this point and that would set the business planning back. Be sure you calm down and listen to wiser heads. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Some minor setbacks and disappointment today but you manage to make the most of the day by turning events to your advan- tage. The family needs to be added to your list of must do as they need more of your company. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You are in demand now and the world just can't get along with- out you even though you may be counting on a laid back day when all you want to do is rest; resting is a great idea if anyone would let you. Try \"disappearing\" for a while today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You should be extra careful in any business move you make today as everything is a gamble and lady luck is fickle. The less you let others know of your business the better it will be for you in the long run. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Gambling is addictive but you are not much drawn to it unless you think you have got an edge, well that edge can get dull leaving you with empty pockets, a thing you cannot abide. Think it over and you will not even be tempted. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Take some time out and be by yourself for awhile today if you have been socializing a bit much lately. You need to get your thoughts back together. Romance is more likely without a crowd around so take your love to a nice secluded restaurant for dinner. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) The only way to make a big career move is to aggressively go after what you want, if you play it too cool you will see others getting there ahead of you. A loved one may be plan- ning a trip, be sure all the safety points are discussed first. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) The praise you receive from someone today will be hard won as you have given this project every minute you could spare for months. Your charm and wit today will win you a positive re- sponse to an age old question. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Don't go off on a tangent and do something out of character for you today, as it won't pay off. You will receive some welcome news from an investment today and that will be your light at the end of the tunnel."}, {"response": 875, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 19, 2000 (23:11)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, September 20, 2000 Blonde Bombshell: She was a star of yesteryear. Jean Harlow, a Pisces, led a controversial life on and off the screen. There have been books, motion pictures about her, but none has mentioned her deep interest in astrology. Dal Lee, writer and editor, was Jean Harlow's personal astrologer. Much of her success and a little bit of happiness she said she owed to astrology and her astrologer. Let us not forget Jean Harlow and astrology. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Be on the move but adhere to rules, regulations. Scorpio paints a picture; could be beautiful, but not exactly accurate. Protect self in emotional clinches. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You will pay for household repairs. It will be worth the money. People compliment you on your good taste, color coordination. Scorpio makes serious proposal. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Cycle high, take initiative in making appointments with higher-ups. All is not what appears on surface. You will find that out. Virgo involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Delve deep for information, promotion due if you accept responsibility. Relationship intense, passionate. Protect self in close quarters. Capricorn featured. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Look beyond the immediate, take charge of your own future. Reunion with one you once loved will prove dramatic, emotional. Go forward, not backward. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Make your mark, intensify relationship, be willing to start over. Stress original thinking, independence, creativity. Leo native has you confused; play hand straight. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Serious discussion featured in connection with partnership, fresh water, marital status. If single you encounter future mate. Married or single, domestic adjustment featured. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Diversify, give opponents wiggle room. Sagittarius points out mistake; don't be angry, be gentle. Entertain and be entertained. Gemini figures prominently. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look behind scenes for answers. Involvement with Scorpio proves mysterious, stimulating. Don't ask too many questions. Lunar position highlights publicity, debates. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Be ready for sudden change of plans. Here you were all packed and ready, but the trip has been postponed. You sigh, ``That is the life of a Capricorn.'' AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Family member accuses you of neglect. Be kind, diplomatic, spotlight flowers and music. Find outlet for creative energies. Taurus plays outstanding role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Your kind of day! Focus on mystery, intrigue. You receive proposals, career, marriage. You sigh, ``Who would have thought of it?'' You decide, ``You can't think of everything.''` IF SEPTEMBER 20 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are sensitive, creative, loyal to family, you feel protective of the underdog and you are a hero to many. Cancer, Capricorn persons play outstanding roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Travel in October, participation in creative project. Important domestic adjustment occurs in November, could include change of residence, marital status."}, {"response": 876, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 19, 2000 (23:54)", "body": "September 20, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're coming into a peaceful and harmonious cycle in your life. Is there someone you need to repair a relationship with? This would be a good time to do so. Take the first step and wave the white flag. It doesn't matter who was wrong or right. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Something brand new is coming into your life. Have you been planning some kind of new addition? You'll have to be creative to get this into your life but it will happen. This is something you'll feel like is your baby so enjoy it. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A wise woman is going to keep you from jumping to conclusions. It doesn't seem like you have all the facts. While this woman would usually agree with you, she knows things aren't always what they seem. Listen to her. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A male friend will give you some information about a situation at work. It's going to relieve your stress so make sure to thank him. A rival has been trying to hold you down but know you know you have the upper hand."}, {"response": 877, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 20, 2000 (17:07)", "body": "well, i know a virgo....."}, {"response": 878, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 20, 2000 (19:14)", "body": "Oh man, so do I... Canadian..."}, {"response": 879, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 20, 2000 (20:30)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, September 21, 2000 Mickey Rooney: He is a Libran who was once the biggest box-office star in motion pictures. When married to Ava Gardner, she shouted at reporters who dubbed Rooney ``pint-sized'' -- ``He is a bigger man than all of you!'' On a recent tour, Rooney was a few minutes late. The producer spoke to him sharply. Mickey Rooney reached in his pocket and pulled out a wad of $100 bills. He said to the producer, ``I made this money in show business, where is yours?'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Attention revolves around family, home, ways of increasing income. Libra and another Aries play significant roles. You win through diplomacy, lose if forcing issues. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Play waiting game; obtain hint from Aries message. Define terms, streamline procedures. It will be possible to perfect techniques. Pisces in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on production, distribution, promotion to higher echelon. Pressure is on, you will be up to it. Capricorn becomes valuable ally. Credit deserved is given. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Cycle high; circumstances take dramatic turn in your favor. Look ahead, punch cards, you're due for dramatic victory. Highlight personality, sex appeal. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Put aside preconceived notions. Wear bright colors, make personal appearances. Avoid heavy lifting, put on a unique show. Make fresh start, let others know you're alive and kicking. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You discover that more people admire you. Shake off emotional lethargy; get off the bench and into the game. Cancer, Capricorn individuals play dominant roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Entertain and be entertained. Moon in your Tenth House represents career advancement. You could be amazed by your own progress. Gemini figures prominently. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Task of rewriting will be relatively easy. Check for historic accuracy, correct measurements. Long-distance communication verifies views. Taurus plays fascinating role. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be ready for exciting changes, trips involving relatives. Read and write, teach and learn. Check accounting methods. Missing item will be located. Virgo involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Those who left you behind will be stunned by your reappearance. Libra family member is loyal and is on your side. Lunar emphasis on partnership, marital status. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Best advice: ``Wait and see.'' Element of deception present, don't fall for sob story. Work methods require serious review. Pisces sheds light on dilemma. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Show a different side of yourself. Emphasis on priorities, organization, new method of distribution. Relationship sizzles, could get too hot. IF SEPTEMBER 21 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are perceptive, have sense of humor, can entertain while teaching. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play meaningful roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names -- C, L, U. During October, there will be romance, flirtation; you could change residence, marital status. December will be your most memorable, profitable, creative month of the year."}, {"response": 880, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 20, 2000 (20:31)", "body": "September 21, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) When that overly attractive love tries to \"start the relationship\" up again it will be best if you turn a deaf ear. Of course, some people want to be used so you could make up, but it will only mean more heartbreak. Invite some real friends over tonight. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is not a good time to allow friends to become indebted to you on a personal basis, but if you have already, you will have trouble collecting. Your work will go slowly today due to interferences of family members, this is not good for your business. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Some mean things may be said behind your back today but an unexpected person defends you. A slip on the job could result in a minor injury today if you do not stay alert in all things. Your secret admirer comes out of hiding. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A friend who may give the impression of being weak comes through strong for you today when you need him the most. You may also meet with some unexpected expenses that threaten to overwhelm you, but you manage to stay ahead of the bill collectors. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You don't like to have to ask, but in this case you may have to as a difficulty about money could cause you some anger when a friend denies owing you at all. A loyal friend comes to your rescue tonight when someone starts an untrue rumor about you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) With your psychic level at its peak, morning hours are filled with possibilities of moving up a few notches on the job. Although things tend to slow down in the afternoon, you are still moving right along while the others are falling behind. Promote your interests. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Some major problems could be yours today if you adopt a devil may care attitude. Do your own thing but don't hurt, or ignore others, in the process; this could lead to difficulties, especially marital. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Finish what you have started before you can expect to see any increase in income from this project, this is a good day to work on it and finish as you will have all the peace and quiet you need. Work on it, don't think about working on it. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) People today may have ideas that are terribly different from yours, but they still deserve their turn to be heard; use tact and tolerance in all your dealings at work and at home. Encouragement comes from unusual places. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You should try very hard not to be to critical of a small child as he/she is too young to understand that you only mean it in a constructive way. You have a good day at work, scoring quite a few points with your boss. Evening may bring a few disagree- ments. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Finish a creative project today as the boss has been pacing the floor waiting for it. Through the actions of someone who is highly excitable you find yourself in a quandry regarding per- sonal plans. Relax, you may miss meeting someone that you would really rather not see. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You may find that your new schedule has caused the secretary to become confused and give out erronous information. Don't worry, it won't happen again as your schedule should now be steady and known to all. Don't take your frustration home to a loved one."}, {"response": 881, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 21, 2000 (23:59)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, September 22, 2000 Kobe Bryant: He is a 22-year-old millionaire. His outstanding play for the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team has drawn the attention of sportswriters and fans alike. The big question to many is how Bryant will handle his fame, fortune. He is under the constant spotlight, is due to marry a teen-ager. Kobe Bryant is modest, mature for his age. Virgo all the way. ARIES: (March 21-April 19): Maintain aura of mystery. Don't tell all, do not confide or confess. People are intrigued; keep it that way. Pisces, Virgo persons figure in dramatic scenario. TAURUS: (April 20-May 20): Down to business. Deal gingerly with Cancer-born relative. Financial dispute will be settled satisfactorily. Organize priorities, find ways of distribution. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look beyond the immediate, give serious thought to possible overseas journey. Let go of burden you should not have carried in first place. Aries represented. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Cycle high, take initiative, don't follow others, let them follow you. Creative juices stir, find outlet for energies. Proposals received, career and marriage. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Watch your step. Overcome tendency to slip, fall. Focus on home, property, relations with family. Dinner made exciting by Capricorn guest. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): What you have given will be returned threefold. You'll be popular, entertained, provided with necessary funding for unique project. Sagittarian in picture. Taurus, Scorpio and another Libran will play featured roles. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Your kind of day. Change of itinerary serves your purpose. Emphasis on flirtation, creativity, exciting relationship. Excellent results from reading, writing, publishing. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Spotlight on beautifying home surroundings. Surprise gift, show gratitude without being obsequious. Make intelligent concessions to restore domestic harmony. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Delay legal action. You do not have complete story, element of deception involved. Marital status questioned. Pisces, Virgo persons will play glamorous roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Obtain hint from Capricorn message. Focus on organization, get priorities on order. You receive promotion, added pressure. You will be up to it; show your strength. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Project completed; plant seeds for future. Highlight universal appeal; open lines of communication. Individual from another land makes surprise visit. IF SEPTEMBER 22 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are creative, dynamic, many consider you rebellious. You were on your own relatively early, are independent thinker, fascinated by architecture and the mantic arts. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play outstanding roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. Your most powerful, dynamic, profitable, romantic month will be November."}, {"response": 882, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 22, 2000 (00:01)", "body": "September 22, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Friends and family encourage you in your business plans. Others may find a large measure of happiness entering their lives. Seek guidance today spiritually as that is advice that can't go wrong, meditation should make it clear. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A dream you had a long time ago happens again and you understand what it meant even though it is now after the fact, The choice you made at the time is now paying off in a big way in your financial picture. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A child will be a source of much pride to you today as her skills keep growing as well as her intelligences! You may have an argu- ment with a semi friend today over work related matters. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You can afford a couple of new employees at this time and you should get them as you are not capable of being in two places at one time. Besides, hiring people will give you a chance to take it easier and spend some time with the family. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) An argument with a loved one is not easily resolved as domestic strife could be the norm not the exception today. Although there is no shame on either side you will do better to compro- mise than stand your ground as then you will be able to go on to happier moments. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Your skills are much sought after today and you could find your- self flooded with orders or clients. It is best not to take on more than you can handle. Hiring someone to help out in this now could be the wrong move. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) The winds of change will be practically howling as you will find yourself faced with several major decisions that you must make and should not put off as it could mean a big loss for you. Children starting in a new school will naturally be grumpy. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This is a good day for contacting friends to stir something up and decide what you want to do or where you want to go. If you decide to throw a party yourself this would be a good day to do it. Don't forget older family members who may spend a lonely day without you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Things will begin to pop today and you may find yourself in hot water if you do not abstain from repeating gossip that you may accidently overhear. This is a good day to play the deaf, dumb, and blind. Family affairs may also be less than ideal. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This is a very lucky day for you. Consider buying a lottery ticket or taking a chance on something important. A short trip home to visit the family is just what the doctor order- ed. Others will find new career options present themselves before days end. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A chain letter e-mail may have you searching the web to find out what's up, don't worry too much about it as with all chain letters, the best place for it is in the trash. The new car turns out to be a better bargain than you thought. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Friends and family are very encouraging about your new job move. You have a great eye for detail and this comes in handy when you set down to draw up the necessary plans to present to your new boss. Take the evening to relax."}, {"response": 883, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 22, 2000 (00:11)", "body": "Wolfie, watch your back tomorrow!!!(see above) September 22, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This will be a good time to get a second and third opinion on matters of a major purchase. These two people will not steer you wrong with their opinion. You have the upper hand in negotiations so be confident. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You have a feeling about something going on at work. Go with your gut feeling and let your boss know you have concerns. By doing this, it will help your reputation and enhance your position. This could possibly help with a promotion that you well deserve. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You know just the person to ask for financial advice. It's not going to hurt to ask for help. Don't be taken aback if the help he gives you isn't what you expect. It may not be what you want but it's what you need. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You can't keep pretending you're someone you aren't. Look deep inside and see who you really are. Don't live a duel life anymore. Show people who you really are and they'll like and respect you."}, {"response": 884, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 27, 2000 (22:04)", "body": "September 28, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This would be a fine day to schedule your conferences with higher ups or financial advisors, you could have a lot of things going your way today if you do more listening than talking. Today you should be setting your sights high; reach for the stars, you might catch one. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today it would pay you to stick to conventionalities in business as anything else is sure to be frowned on. Use tact today in dealing with clients and business associ- ates. It is possible to meet a new love today if you are single or to experience a new closeness with your spouse. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Wile your hunches are good today concerning your income and investments it is still wise to investigate each opportunity for the long range feasibility. This is a good evening for socializing but be sure you don't over- do it and wind up feeling terrible tomorrow. CANCER (June 22-July 22) This is a good day to further your own interests, but it will require you to be a little more aggressive in going after what you want than you normally are. A new admirer will stir your attention today, which you find flat- tering, don't lose your head. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Treat your business like a well played game of poker today and be sure you play them close to the chest. Someone who thinks they have you wiped out may be in for a total sur- prise when you turn the tables on them. Take time with the family tonight. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Disruptive changes in your plans are possible today but if you keep your cool you will manage to turn things around to your benefit. Love is happily focused on today and you and a spouse find a warm closeness that you may have been lacking in the past. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) In the area of family and finances you will find that your judgment is excellent and sought after. The decisions you make today could have some far reaching ramifications so be sure before you speak. Take the family out for a cosy meal, everyone will enjoy it. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This is your day for working with ideas and doing any kind of financial or other mental work. Catch up on returning those important telephone calls and answering those let- ters that are stacking up on you. You can get a lot done today as others are responsive to your moods. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Having a private conference with a broker or a bank loan manager will set your mind at rest; progress is sometimes slow but it will eventual move along. Unexpected news from an unexpected source could come today. When talking with a loved one tonight, speak your heart. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today you should make a special effort to curb any wildly extravagant urges you may feel as undue so=pending at this time could bring disaster in days to come. Be sure you are not so overcome with love and happiness with some- one that you misplace your common sense. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Slow deliveries, change in plans, almost anything that can irk you today will do so. The best thing is to go off by yourself somewhere and spend the day relaxing. Worry never helped anything and it does cause an awful lot of wrinkles and gray hair. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A breakdown in communications and you don't find out until the last minute about the drastic change in plans...unpack, you're not going anywhere right now. Still, it is a good day for affairs of the heart and romance both old or new is favored today."}, {"response": 885, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 27, 2000 (23:27)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, September 28, 2000 Mystical Scientist: He was a Pisces. A major magazine voted him the most important person of the 20th century. He was a scientist superior to all of his colleagues. He was mystical, and said he loved music more than anything. He was Albert Einstein, who declared that ``God does not play dice with the universe.'' People noticed a horseshoe on his door. They asked, ``Surely, Dr. Einstein, you don't believe in that?'' Einstein replied, ``I understand it works whether or not you believe in it.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Focus on proposals that include partnership, marriage. Check details, including measurements, mathematical solutions. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons are in scenario. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Keep appointments regarding health. Be ready for sudden changes of itinerary. Read and write, teach and learn. Flirtation is not frivolous. Protect self in clinches. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Domestic adjustment necessary. Deal gingerly with Libra. Scenario highlights flowers, music, antiques. Beautify surroundings, especially in residence. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Overcome tendency to be moody. Meditation brings positive results. Pisces could mislead without intending to do so. Define terms; outline boundaries. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Steer clear of traffic jams. Moon position declares, ``Stay out of crowds if possible.'' Focus also on production, promotion, organizing priorities. Capricorn involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): What was lost will be recovered almost effortlessly. Look beyond the immediate. Explore possibility of overseas journey. Aries, Libra persons play roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Toss aside preconceived notions. You could experience what appears to be a miracle. A different kind of love on horizon. Take yet another chance on romance. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Emphasis on proposals, career and marriage. Moon position highlights secrets, institutions, visit to hospital. Remember that discretion is better part of valor. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Win friends and influence people. Luck rides with you. You will entertain and be entertained. Some major hopes, wishes will become realities. Obtain funding. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Red tape will not stop you. Fill out forms in good humor. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons figure in exciting scenario. You will be offered leadership role. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): People look to you for prophesies. Suggest reading material. Relationship more serious than originally anticipated. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons in picture. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You recently had narrow escape. Don't repeat mistakes. Family member deserves attention, affection. Taurus, Libra individuals plan to surprise you. IF SEPTEMBER 28 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Your thoughts are original. Some people claim you are domineering. You are creative, sensual. Leo, Aquarius persons play important roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. November will prove exciting. You find outlet for creative talents. Major domestic adjustment in December that could include change of residence, marital status."}, {"response": 886, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 28, 2000 (00:04)", "body": "September 28, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It's time to break out of who people think you are and be yourself. Some people may look at you as a rebel but that's okay. It's time to be exactly who you are. This is a time for you to soar like an eagle -- you can't stay down anymore. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Someone has been deceiving you as to who they really are. It's time to get past the illusions. Find out what their motivation is and then decide if you want to be in a relationship with this person. You have all the power to make the decision whether you want to continue in this relationship or not. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A female with a lot of insight is going to be ready to give you some advice today. Be receptive to it. It might not be clear to you right now but she is also learning from you in this process. Take her advice and integrate it into your being. She is leading you on the right path. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A situation at work is wearing you out. You have no energy to deal with your nemesis anymore. It's time to get some of the higher-ups involved in this situation because you can't do it on your own. They are behind you -- don't be afraid you're showing any weakness by getting your boss involved."}, {"response": 887, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 28, 2000 (21:55)", "body": "September 29, 2000 Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, September 29, 2000 Poet Laureate: Robert Pinsky is a 60-year-old Libran who is poet laureate of the United States. When he was a youngster he paged through the dictionary for amusement. Pinsky's poetry goes against the predominant grain by assuming a voice that is less personal and confessional, more often omniscient and removed from that of his contemporaries. Pinsky is married to a clinical psychologist and has three adult daughters. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Possible legal problems resolved. Check accounting procedures. Scenario highlights change, travel, variety. Written material proves of great importance. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Spotlight on home, domesticity, marital status. You learn something you should have known in first place. Libra, Scorpio persons play roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Slow pace. Play waiting game. What you require will be handed to you on proverbial silver platter. Avoid self-deception. Pisces is deeply attracted to you. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Outlet for creative capabilities will be found. Make decision involving young person. Focus on direction, motivation. Capricorn involved. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Spiritual values surface. A new dimension of character makes this a memorable day. Love, romance figure prominently. Sale or purchase of property featured. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Try something new. Relative who does not understand should not be taken seriously. Take plunge into future. Originality is necessary. Leo plays role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Emphasis on direction, motivation, major decision relating to partnership, marriage. Get in rhythm with your own tune. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Cycle moves up. Circumstances turn in your favor. Popularity zooms -- could result in eventual prosperity. You are asked to take part in political activities. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Minor details command attention. Scorpio has secret, wants to confide in you. Be receptive but protect self in close quarters. Taurus, Gemini also in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Break free from foolish restrictions. Gain information; share it. Many of your hopes, desires will be fulfilled. Advertise and publish. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): People close to you want you to be a leader. Focus on promotion, production, ability to foresee the future. Libra plays outstanding role. Aries also involved. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Individual you once denounced will promote your cause. See clearly. Avoid self-deception. Virgo is intent on deceiving you. Protect self in emotional clinches. IF SEPTEMBER 29 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You changed your name on more than one occasion. You are emotional, creative, at times psychic. Leo, Aquarius persons play dramatic roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. During October you read and write, you also teach and travel. November features possible change of residence, marital status. March 2001 will be dynamic."}, {"response": 888, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 29, 2000 (00:58)", "body": "September 29, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're going to find out that a situation you thought you knew is now going to blow apart. The truth is finally going to be revealed and it's going to shake some people up, including you. Don't worry -- you will come out this pretty much unscathed. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Today is a day of transformation for you. While you feel shaken up by this, it will actually bring balance into your life. People that are interacting with you are doing it for your higher good so pay attention to who you come in contact with today. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra This would be a good day to tidy up finances and pay off those bills! Get rid of old debt so you don't have to worry about it anymore. You'll finally have the cash to get started on what your heart desires. This would be a good time to start saving. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces This would be a good day to plan a trip. You need to get away from the everyday problems you've been having and getting out of your environment will help. Even if you can only get together a day trip, do it soon. It will calm and soothe your frayed feelings."}, {"response": 889, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 30, 2000 (02:41)", "body": "September 30, 2000 Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, September 30, 2000 Baby Snooks: Fanny Brice was a Scorpio actress/comedienne whose colleagues often requested she give them readings. Brice, known as ``Baby Snooks'' by millions of radio and theater fans, was also an expert card reader. Her predictions reportedly proved amazingly accurate. Brice was no stranger to astrology or other mantic arts, sciences. Surprised? ARIES (March 21-April 19): Dig deep for information. Some pertinent facts are being withheld. Home involved; so is property value. Be diplomatic, but let others know when enough is enough. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Obtain hint from Aries message. Play waiting game. Be positive concerning legal rights, permissions. Take nothing for granted. Get promises in writing. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Come into your own. Let others know you are not without allies. Focus on priorities, organization, promotion, responsibility. Capricorn is in picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Those who thought you were a Johnny One-Note will be in for rude awakening. You could make news on international scale. Aries plays fascinating role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on where you live and with whom. Don't do anything halfway. Emphasis on enthusiasm, creativity, style. It's possible that you might encounter soul mate. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Financial big deal is in the offing. Get facts, figures; do basic research. Relationship intense -- very serious. Question of marital status will loom large. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Financial status spotlighted. Personal valuables that were missing will be returned. Celebration will be in order. Sagittarian plays top role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Cycle high. Trust intuition. You will be sought for consultation by higher-up. Don't go hat in hand -- you have plenty to offer, and others will know it. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): You exude personal magnetism that translates to sex appeal. Don't break too many hearts. Read and write, advertise your wares. Gemini figures prominently. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Fix things at home. Stick to familiar ground. Scenario highlights flowers, music, diplomacy. Don't force issues. Give opponents wiggle room. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Avoid self-deception. See people, relationships in realistic light. Intuitive intellect highlighted. Follow hunch and your heart. Virgo plays role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You could be talk of the town. Avoid any hint of scandal. You are being considered for something very important. Cancer, Capricorn natives play roles. IF SEPTEMBER 30 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are versatile, fun to be with, have marvelous sense of humor and can laugh at your own foibles. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play unusual roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. During October, you feel the need for change of residence. Marital status will be involved. During November, avoid snap decisions, play waiting game."}, {"response": 890, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 30, 2000 (13:27)", "body": "October outlook \"Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.\" Feste in Shakespeare's Twelfth Night (I.v.36) Mercury is going to turn himself around this month, right in the middle of Scorpio. Mercury takes three trips around the Sun to our every one trip, so this isn't that unusual. It is too bad that it happens in Scorpio, though, because that means it might be a mean little retrograde time. Saturn is also in apparent rear guard action which isn't that big of a deal, but he does slide backwards in Taurus, a little later this month, and that's going to be a bit of bump. More news, updates, and secure order form is on the web: http://www.astrofish.net Aries : On the highway of life, there are some bumps. Sometimes, this road feels like a corrugated dirt road, too. In fact, part of the early part of the month is going to feel like washboard dirt track. It's not bad, and monster truck suspension works just fine on it although some of your internal body organs might complain about the apparent lack of response in the truck's suspension. Navigating down this dirt road is a little tricky at times like this because it feels like the truck is not firmly connected to the road. This is due to a perturbation in the planets' orbits. It's not so bad, once you realize that you really are making good time, it's just that your usually good Aries vision is getting a little blurred. It might be the dust that you're kicking up. It might be the endless expanse of sand and mesquite. It might be the questionable surface of the road. A normal person would slow down. An Aries, though, might just go ahead and take these rough spots with typical Aries speed, hoping to bounce from one berm to the next. I suggest you slow down a little this month. The bumpy road is due to Mars in Virgo, and the Sun in Libra. Once you get past the first part of the month, the road turns into solid black top and you can really make up some of the time you lost early on. Taurus : On some occasions, ignorance is bliss. Or, to phrase it differently, it's like telling the officer that I was sure the posted speed limit was 95 (not 65, sir), and that's why, when I was clocked at close to hundred miles an hour, I was sure that I wasn't that far over the limit. The officer didn't find it amusing, but he did suggest, since he had less than hour left on his shift, and he didn't feel like going down to the county courthouse, he was only going to write me up for twenty miles over the posted limit. With Mercury in slow motion in the far side of the zodiac, you're going to find that your pleas of miscommunication fall on deaf ears. In fact, trying to act like you didn't know is just going to exacerbate the situation this month. First, Mercury pushes you one way, then he pushes you another way. But like my small amount of luck with the Highway Patrol, you're not going to get in as much trouble. However, when I'm in my Taurus boots this month, I will have a very artfully prepared story and explanation for everything. This is a recommended course of action, just don't trying pleading ignorance, unless you can do it a humorous fashion. Gemini : There are two items worthy of your perspicacious Gemini consideration right now. Number one: Mercury is going to be in Scorpio all month long. Number two: Mercury is going to do a retrograde action around the middle of the month. And what does that mean to you, my fine Gemini friend? This is going to be the ultimately weird month. It's not like you really get along with the whole Mercury in Scorpio thing to begin with, and its action wherein it slows down, stops, and then appears to move backwards relative to the other planets is going to throw you into a dizzying spiral. Is this a downward spiral, or is it an upward spiral? I would suppose it depends on whether you're in the Northern Hemisphere or the Southern Hemisphere, and the direction of the spiral you get tossed into has to do with the Coriolis Effect. By the end of the month, though, I'm pretty sure you're going to feel like you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's just the evil little movements of your ruling planet and he's just assuring you that there is some mischief afoot right now, just something to shake you up a little. The trick with the tricky planet is not to let this get to you too much. Your ability to deal with stress is going to be tested this month, and there's a problem at work that you were sure you had already fixed (remember: a Gemini brain is, on the average, twice as fast as any body else's.) With this month's arrangement of the planets, I would just start taking it easy, and learn a degree of patience. Let me know which way the spiral goes this month. Cancer : I'm only really looking at two planets for you Cancer guys this month. In my test samples at the \"Fishing Guide to the Stars Beachfront Research Laboratories\", the Crabs are under twin influences right now. One of them would be Mars, and this \"Mars in Virgo\" thing is having a little more "}, {"response": 891, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 30, 2000 (13:37)", "body": "Wolfie, let's run away someplace quiet and secure and without a modem...to keep me out of trouble... for the month of October!"}, {"response": 892, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 30, 2000 (22:43)", "body": "October 1, 2000 Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, October 1, 2000 Easygoing: He writes about and is considered an authority on the rich and famous. He is easygoing, he is Robin Leach, a Virgo. He explains, ``The reason I am successful is that I go where angels fear to tread.'' He is 5-foot-11, is a gourmet cook and has an ``elfin'' grin. He sips champagne among guests in a mansion. Observers say he looks as if he would be having a better time sipping beer in a pub. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Creative juices stir. Break free from foolish restrictions. Imprint style, do not follow others. Excellent for reading, writing, submitting manuscripts. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Attention revolves around home, cooperative efforts, partnership, marriage. Legal affairs command attention, people make claims and apologies. Libra involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Wait and see. Time is on your side; meditate, be in touch with inner voice. Real estate opportunity should be looked into. Pisces figures prominently. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Let people know you mean business. Focus on creativity, style, promotion, production. On personal level, relationship is hot and heavy. Capricorn plays key role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Dictate terms, position is strong, your ideas are vital, futuristic. Let go of preconceived notions. Forecast your own future, make predictions come true. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Steer clear of traffic and of crowds. Imprint style, make fresh start in different direction. Avoid heavy lifting, protect self in emotional clinches. Leo represented. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Much talk concerning local politics, partnership proposals, marital status. At home, plumbing requires attention. Cancer native makes declaration of loyalty. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Cycle high, take initiative in making appointments with higher-ups. Accent humor; don't go hat in hand. Highlight versatility, diversity, intellectual curiosity. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Someone intends to trip you. Be on alert; your recent success has aroused envy. Taurus will play outstanding role. Look behind scenes for answers. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You win friends and influence people, you also have luck in matters of speculation. During game-playing, you encounter one who will play major role in your life. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Stick close to familiar ground. Family member presents art object as gift. Music plays, dance to your own tune. If single, you could encounter future soul mate. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Your kind of day. You will be told how wonderful you are -- don't believe everything you hear. Outline boundaries, define terms. Avoid self-deception. IF OCTOBER 1 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an original thinker, independent in thought and action. Some of your associates, friends regard you as mystical. You seldom follow the crowd, you are not afraid of being alone, you realize you could be lonely in a crowd. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. During October, you read and write, you get in touch with inner self."}, {"response": 893, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 1, 2000 (16:57)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, October 2, 2000 Huxley: Aldous Huxley, Leo world-famous author, was considered a friend of astrology. The tall, handsome, Huxley declared, ``People who attack astrology usually do not know what they are attacking and why.'' The author of ``Brave New World'' explained, ``Astrology is an unique subject, requires study and respect.'' Other Leos: Steve Martin, Dustin Hoffman, Kathy Lee Gifford. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Spiritual values surface. Scenario highlights beauty, flowers, music, romance. Gift received, art object that helps beautify home. Taurus figures prominently. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Be willing to wait; second offer much better than first. Define terms; see people, relationships in realistic manner. Love relationship can be deceptive. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Emphasis on cooperative efforts, proposals that include partnership, marriage. Look beyond the immediate, give attention to legal affairs. Capricorn in picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Don't neglect routine -- grandiose promises should be put in writing. Humanitarian project deserves cooperation. Travel to distant land is possibility. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You asked for something new -- you have it now. Take cold plunge into future. Display originality, pioneering spirit. Different kind of love is on horizon. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Obtain hint from Leo message. Family member quizzes you on marital status. Focus on land, sale or purchase of property. Cancer native becomes valuable ally. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Dispense with fun and games. You will be taken seriously by those who make appointments to distant cities, foreign lands. Smile at your own foibles. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Another Scorpio feels you are impinging on territory. Have facts at hand, do basic research. If clever, you avoid fight. Lost valuables returned. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Circumstances take dramatic turn in your favor. Moon cycle high; present dashing image, exude confidence. Deal with temperamental Gemini who appears helpless. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Focus on flowers, music, art objects -- return home of family member is reason for celebration. Be diplomatic, let it be known that you did not fall off turnip truck. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Maintain aura of mystery, people find you intriguing, want to be with you. Time is on your side; play waiting game. Excellent for winning friends, influencing people. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Promotion due, invest in your own talent. Focus on big deal. You show a different side of yourself, people are properly impressed. Answer to request: ``Yes!'' IF OCTOBER 2 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are impressionable, usually side with the underdog, are loyal to family and country. You enjoy cooking; most of all, you enjoy eating. Capricorn, Cancer natives play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Before October is finished, you could change residence, marital status. December could be your most profitable, romantic month of the year."}, {"response": 894, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 1, 2000 (20:46)", "body": "hmmmmm....my outlook for october makes me want to crawl under a rock and stay til november!"}, {"response": 895, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 2, 2000 (15:26)", "body": "Like I said, let's run away! Me too! Talk to me when you get a chance, Dear! I miss hearing your daily updates! *Hugs*"}, {"response": 896, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 2, 2000 (20:32)", "body": "hi sweetie!"}, {"response": 897, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 2, 2000 (23:52)", "body": "Hi luv! Thanks for letting me know you are ok.... * BIG HUGS* October 3, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Your thoughts are going to change about a major issue. Be reassured that this is a positive change. Listen to your instinct because there are divine forces working in your favor. Thank Spirit for the guidance you get -- you're on a whole new path. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Spend some time alone today to calm your mind. It's time to get out of your hectic schedule and just be with yourself and nature. You'll find your thoughts are clearer if you take today to rest. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Something you've been working so hard for has finally come to fruition. You're going to get a lot of recognition for your hard work. There are several people who are impressed with your results so enjoy the time in your spotlight. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You may be transferring departments or offices today. This is going to give you a new opportunity so don't complain within earshot of anyone who can have influence over your career. They are looking out for your best interest so be grateful. It will become clearer to you as time goes on."}, {"response": 898, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 3, 2000 (01:24)", "body": "October 3, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You should be getting some good news today about a pending legal matter or educational contracts. You may have a personal obli- gation to a friend that you must meet and other friends will throw some work your way. Visiting family at a distance may be in the planning stages today. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your work interests take the spotlight today as you could meet with an unusual job opportunity or be offered a better position. Your day should be filled with progress and productivity as the work just seems to flow. Romance may throw you a curve tonight. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Both home and work related matters are favored as long as you give your intuition free rein today. Disputes at home are easily solved at this time as you and the mate are clicking together on most things. Dinner and a movie sounds just right for tonight. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Entering into negotiations today may not be the best idea but if your intuition is allowed to guide you the chances are good that you will come up smelling like a rose. Be creative in your work habits today and watch the productivity soar. Start your plans for a weekend trip. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Make those airline reservations now as you may not be able to get off the ground if you wait until the last minute to do so. A business hunch of yours will save yourself or your company a lot of money today; don't be afraid to advance your thoughts on the matter. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You and a spouse or other loved one will be in tune today and you can get all your disagreements worked out to the satis- faction of both. Your innovative ideas about your business is right on the money so you start implementing them; be sure you have your partners agreement first. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Early on your intuition will be very strong which will enable you to take care of those minor, but disabling, problems that creep up on you during the morning hours. It is an exceptional day for bargain hunting and catching sales, so go for it. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Business matters flow well today which will give you time to think and plan a creative project you have going at home. Social matters are good for tonight and some friends may drop by in the evening to scare up a game of cards, or even chess. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you will receive some totally unexpected good news and this goes far in making your day perfect. Later on, don't get upset with a family member who may not do things the way you would but if it works for them...great! Tonight you shine at a social get together. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Meta-physics may intrique you today but taking the time for this from your regular work is not advisable. Get some good books on the subject and read up if you desire, just be sure you do not become fanatical about the whole business. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) There are problems at work that only you can handle so don't consider taking the day off if you can avoid it. Being in the public eye has never bothered you but tonight you could become embarrassed over the actions of another, pick friends more carefully. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You are a strong driving force in your business today as you take over the reins of advertising and get the job done with less bells and whistles. An applicant for the position of advertising manager may show up today and this person will be a good bet to hire as he/she knows the business inside and out."}, {"response": 899, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 3, 2000 (16:54)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday, October 3, 2000 Lena Horne: She is a Cancer-born singer whose beauty appears to be ageless. She has starred on stage, on television, in movies. She once explained bitterly, ``Producers thought I was either too dark or too light-colored to play leading roles.'' She overcame obstacles, was not afraid to fight if cause was right. If members of audience make noise, Lena Horne will stop her singing, will not proceed until commotion has settled. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Maintain aura of intrigue, let others play guessing games. Don't tell all, don't confide or confess. What you have been waiting for will arrive. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Follow routine; keep rules, regulations in mind. Minor health annoyance disappears. Pressure will be on, you will be up to it. Capricorn plays role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look beyond the immediate, examine possibility of partnership with one in distant city. Focus also on legal affairs, marital status. Libra represented. CANCER (June 21-July 22): New method of operation will suit you. Stress independence, originality, pioneering spirit. Follow logic, don't neglect emotions, heart. Avoid heavy lifting. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You decide on direction; steps are taken to please you. If single, you encounter future soul mate. If married, domestic adjustment will take place. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Light touch gains objective. Entertain and be entertained. Bring together people of different political views. Humor will settle differences. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Take a stand, tear down in order to rebuild. This is your make-over day. Check measurements, other details. Syncopated rhythm dominates. You surprise yourself. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Protect valuables, someone could be playing games of unpleasant nature. Read, write, teach, learn. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play sensational roles. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Select the best; circumstances favor your efforts. Make amends to family member who feels neglected. Music will play, dance to your own tune. Taurus in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Hold back, play cards close to chest. Some people want to know more than they are entitled to know. Be aware, alert; shut door tight. Pisces represented. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Lucky streak is underway. Timing important; heed inner voice, know when to say, ``Enough.'' In matters of speculation, stick with number 8. Capricorn plays role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You gain added recognition, could be invited to settle international dispute. Maintain universal appeal, toss aside preconceived notions. Aries plays distinguished role. IF OCTOBER 3 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have remarkable sense of humor, are personable, capable of settling disputes involving nations. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play unusual roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. During October, show that you are willing to play waiting game. Don't rush in where angels fear to tread. November features high finance, intensified relationship, memorable experiences."}, {"response": 900, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 3, 2000 (23:18)", "body": "October 4, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Your thoughts about a family member may not be correct. It would be good if you were more sympathetic to their plight. While this family member may irritate you, this situation is unique so make sure to listen because you could give great advice. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A new opportunity at or regarding work will present itself out of chaos today. As scary as it may seem, it will be a good idea for you to take on the extra work. You'll have a lot of help since others know you've gotten several new projects thrown at you at once. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Things may seem to be very frustrating for you today. There are reasons why things are happening the way they are but just go with it. The situation will get better, but since there is nothing you can do to change it, don't get upset. Keeping on an even keel will allow the picture to sort itself out. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You can get some coaching and counseling from a woman who is close with you. However, you need to go with your instinct and make sure her advice feels right to you. You'll realize you know most of the answers already so you'll get confirmation that your ideas are correct."}, {"response": 901, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 6, 2000 (15:47)", "body": "October 6, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is a good day for pushing yourself to the head of your department. In all areas it is a good day to further your career ambitions. Socially you will connect with someone who can help you out in a professional sense. Romance, or a new love is possible tonight. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Something gets you excited today and you get that little extra incentive you need to reach a goal you have set for yourself. Business matters should go smoothly for you today and you may even see a raise coming your way. A family outing tonight will set the tone for the weekend. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Be careful this morning that you do not overlook some vital element necessary in completing your business plans. Focus your attention mainly on your job concerns and let the romantic overtures go for another day. A peaceful night feels like just what the doctor ordered for you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Someone you meet socially today will be able to give you a leg up with that new project of yours. Recreational interests are likely to capture your attention today but save all the physical aspects until tomorrow, the boss would take it un- kindly if you left work early today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A chance word or a remark from an unexpected source acts on you today like electricity as you feel a flash of inspiration and intuition that will enable you to finally get your home business headed in the right direction. Your spouse is wil- ling to help out. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may be planning a weekend trip and if so, this is a good time to have the car serviced and tires checked. Don't leave your or your loved ones safety up to chance. Try to keep ahead of your work load today so nothing will stand in the way of your trip for you and the family. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Negotiations will go in your directions today but don't get overconfident and lose all the ground you have gained. Do not be harsh with a co-worker today as you may end up need- ing this person before the day is out. A family outing to- night would be ideal. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You can be very charming and amusing today and when you turn this on a certain person, that person is hooked! Many doors will open for you today, doors that you never dared hope would open, and you find that you have advanced quite rapidly to your goals. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You are feeling eloquent today and everything you say, you will say it well. Don't wait for someone to get in touch with you, go ahead and contact this person as you have cer- tain things to say that must be said and today is the day to get everything all ironed out. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A quiet, smooth day at work where you can barely keep your mind on the job for thinking about the big party you are attending tonight. Singles will meet with a new romantic interest and married Caps. will find a new love and under- standing together. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A favor you receive from a friend tonight may be just what you needed to get you through a certain situation. Your intuition is high today and if you let it, it will lead you in the direction that you need to go. You will find it serves you well in romance tonight. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your attention may be on travel and family at a distance only you will find that you won't have to make that trip as they are already on the road to see you! Start prepar- ations today as it looks like it will be a fun weekend. Clear out the spare room."}, {"response": 902, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 6, 2000 (16:00)", "body": "October 06, 2000 You may have heard about a variation of the LoveLetter virus called the \"US PRESIDENT AND FBI SECRETS\". It's a 'worm' virus that spreads through e-mail as a chain letter. The worm uses Microsoft's Outlook e-mail application to spread. The subject header will be US PRESIDENT AND FBI SECRETS=PLEASE VISIT( HTTP://WWW.2600.COM ) or a randomly generated 6 letter word displayed in all capital letters, or it might be blank. The worm will also include a randomly chosen attachment. The size of the attachment is approximately 12,609 bytes. Our current virus signature files will detect this worm. However, if you receive an e-mail prefaced with \"US PRESIDENT AND FBI SECRETS\" (Even if it sent by someone you know!) DELETE THE E-MAIL IMMEDIATELY!"}, {"response": 903, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 6, 2000 (20:13)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, October 7, 2000 Most Important Person: A prestigious publication voted him the most important person of the 20th century. He was Pisces Albert Einstein. There are other important people. Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Charles Lindbergh, plenty more. The definition of ``important'' is questionable. Every sign, from Aries to Pisces, is important in different ways. Muhammad Ali is important, Gloria Swanson and Mae West in their ways were important. Who is important in your life? ARIES (March 21-April 19): Some of your major wishes could be fulfilled. Make fresh start in new direction. You will be romanced by sentimental Leo. Caution! TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on partnership, cooperative efforts, marriage. Look beyond the immediate, find ways to beautify home. Cancer, Capricorn persons help make dream come true. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Emphasize humor, versatility. Don't give up the ship. Element of luck is present, you ultimately win in spectacular fashion. Sagittarian becomes ally. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Hold tight to possessions. Fast-talking Gemini may want something of value for nothing. Strike fair bargain. You hold trump card, are in driver's seat. Act accordingly. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Be ready for quick change, sudden romance will be part of scenario. Read and write, teach and learn. Take note of dreams. Virgo represented. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention centers on home, family, Taurus individual who announces, ``I want singing lessons.'' Be kind but firm; be encouraging but let it be known lessons are not free. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Take time to define terms, play waiting game regarding important decision. Someone wants to deceive you; don't give satisfaction. Pisces plays amazing role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Individual who once feared you could now fall in love with you. Be kind, at the very least offer tea and sympathy. Be tender, considerate, don't break hearts. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Financial burden will be lifted within. You'll discover ways of increasing income potential. Burden lifted, more time for travel, romance. Aries featured. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Look beyond the immediate; imprint style, do not follow others. Display pioneering spirit, go where angels supposedly fear to tread. Wear colorful wardrobe. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Take time to survey situation. Questions will be asked concerning whose side are you on. Focus on proposals, career, marriage. Cancer native is in picture. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Don't be backed into corner. Arrange social gathering, examine various sides of political argument. Gemini, Sagittarius persons will lead the way. Lucky number is 3. IF OCTOBER 6 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are a natural diplomat, but will fight when cause is right. You are ultra-conscious of sound, appreciate music, are romantic, creative, dynamic. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. Contacts made during October will prove valuable. In November, if single, you could encounter future soul mate. December very social."}, {"response": 904, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 9, 2000 (00:17)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, October 9, 2000 Siegfried and Roy: Roy is a Libran, Siegfried, a Taurus. The famous magicians both have Venus as ruling planet. Roy declares, ``Women and tigers are exactly alike. They have the same temperament, emotions and vulnerabilities.'' Siegfried says, ``Cats, women -- if you think they will do something, they will usually do something else.'' The magicians have been partners for 40 years; they and their cats are still one of the hottest acts in show business. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Someone close to you wants you to stay put. Key is to work your way out of myriad restrictions. Be sure you have right key to right door. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Cycle high. You win friends and influence people. Be near water if possible. Written word helps resolve dilemma. Flirtation could get too hot to handle. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Individual in position of authority will seek consultation. Domestic adjustment featured -- involves Taurus, Libra. Music plays; find your own rhythm. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Lunar aspect coincides with philosophy, theology, foreign land. See people, relationships in realistic light. Avoid self-deception. Protect self in emotional clinches. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Check accounting procedures. There could be a computer error. Focus on promotion, production, distribution. Utilize sense of showmanship. Capricorn plays role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Let go of losing proposition. Reunion will be dramatic, involves one you once loved. Aries, Libra individuals play emotion-packed roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Take cold plunge into future. Co-worker is on your side, but reluctantly. Take charge of your own fate. Don't follow others. Leo plays fantastic role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Look beyond the immediate. Make decision in connection with relationship. Focus on home, security, income potential. Cancer, Capricorn persons are in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Element of luck rides with you. Avoid scattering forces. Review land, real estate transaction. You need not take second best. Gemini, Aquarius will prove loyal. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 20): You get your way in an odd way. Instructions are carried out in convoluted manner. Tear down; rebuild. Taurus, Scorpio individuals decide in your favor. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Excellent for reading and writing, distributing pertinent information. Flirtation gets too hot. Respond accordingly. Virgo is in picture. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Cycle high. You will be at right place at special moment. Ride with the tide. Don't ask too many questions. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons figure in dramatic scenario. IF OCTOBER 9 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You get involved in political-humanitarian projects. You help the underdog, have fiery temper that you keep under control. You are romantic and when you turn on the passion, look out. Aries, Libra persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: I and R. During November, swift changes occur in your life. In December, money and romance."}, {"response": 905, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 9, 2000 (01:18)", "body": "October 9, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A tall dark stranger may pop into your life today in a highly romantic fashion. This is one who will not take to being dom- inated so make sure you know what you want out of a mate before you fall for this one. Your career may undergo some changes today and most will be good. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is not a good time to be more follower than leader as the person you may be following may lead you into some pretty bad trouble...hang out alone for awhile. Evening may bring you a chance encounter that will lift your lagging spirits. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Making good decisions was never the problem with you as you can make some excellent ones, but...making yourself stick to your guns in the face of opposition may cause you to change them. You are also good at talking yourself out of a great idea by being unsure of yourself. CANCER (June 22-July 22) This would be a great day for you to act like a ghost and 'haunt' the malls and shopping centers as the bargains are everywhere, and you will be able to complete that project for a lot less money than you originally estimated. Take a friend along for company. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) The winds of change are blowing through your life right now and they will not all be bad. Your feelings that something is about to happen is right on the money as one of the changes will be a bright new future with a new, progressive comapny that need your talents. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Be sure you get all your facts together before you jump to conclusions and misjudge someones work...Don't listen to rumor or gossip as that could cause you more losses than gains in the romance department. Your spouse could be feel- ing neglected; its not easy being a computer widow/widower. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Career moves you make today will be for the best and you will be able to have your goals within your sights. Re- turning an item you don't need makes more sense than stacking it in a corner, use the money for something else. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A special person drops into your life today and you are ecstatic about the whole thing. Don't let too many stars in your eyes cloud your vision of the truth, always look before you leap. A family member may need your help today in moving and this should take up your whole afternoon. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Worry over a family problem could reach a quick end today if you will learn to let go and let the grown up child think for himself or herself. Sooner or later we must all stand alone and the time is probably right for this one. Worry if you like, but do it in silence. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Being the stubborn 'goat' you are apt to meet with a lot of opposition today and getting stubborn will only get you a sore head, and maybe get you unemployed at the same time. Try to give a little today as others have some good ideas as well as you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Taking your work, or your worry over a friends problems, to bed with you is not a good idea and your partner will not appreciate it in the least. Try to lay aside thoughts of others when dealing with your spouse, life will be so much more simpler. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today your ties to the unknown through your extra sensory perception is very strong today and you may even see a ghost or have an angel encounter. Friends will remark on your air of mystery and be intrigued rather than be put off by it."}, {"response": 906, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 9, 2000 (02:46)", "body": "October 9, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It's a great day for you to connect with your soulmate. There will be several possibilities for you to have a great day with this person. It's okay if your career takes a back-seat, you deserve some quality time. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're struggling with something new at work and it's not coming natural to you. Give yourself time to learn the ropes -- it will come together soon. Enjoy the process of putting the a new procedure together or you'll miss all the fun. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You haven't been feeling yourself lately. Your body is telling you it needs rest -- listen to it. Pampering yourself would be a good idea so get a massage or take a long nap. It would be good to recharge your batteries. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Put your feet up and relax. It was a hard earned victory and you deserve to rest for a while. You've been on an emotional rollercoaster lately but it has finally come to an end. Sit back and enjoy the fact the situation is finally done."}, {"response": 907, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Oct 9, 2000 (07:39)", "body": "Oh marcia ..see 904!!!! No, I don't believe it!!!"}, {"response": 908, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 9, 2000 (11:11)", "body": "aren't S&R gay? so what do they know about women?"}, {"response": 909, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 9, 2000 (11:12)", "body": "oh, wait, that's what changed them *grin*"}, {"response": 910, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (00:55)", "body": "uh huh...noted ! Tres interesting, no?! Octember 10, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) While you are the one with so much get up and go, you can also be thrown into deep depressions if you take too much of someones criticisms to heart. Learn to shake off the harsh words by taking responsiblitiy for any part you may have been wrong about, resolv- ing to do better and then listen to no more on the subject! TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may be as strong as a bull but this is not a time to put that endurance to the test...get a medical checkup if you are feeling poorly so you can keep that bull like strength intact. Evening may bring a few visitors your way but it is best to explain that you need your rest and will see them another time. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A major martial dispute over a child or young person could rock the boat for you and the spouse today. Try a compromising ap- proach to the matter and if that doesn't work, maybe a counselor will help. Keep your mind on the job today as much as possible. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A pending lawsuit or a foreclosure may be giving you headaches today, and the best thing is to either pay up, see a lawyer, or move. It is best to get a solution and act on it, rather than ruining your nerves with a bunch of worries that will do nothing more than gray your hair. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Bed hopping may seem like a lot of fun to you with its cloak and dagger overtones of secretiveness, but sooner than later you will be found out and then you could lose it all. If you are truly out of love, then go your separate ways before you give in to other attractions. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) One sure way of putting minor problems in the background, or the trash can, is to remember, and keep telling yourself, that a hundred years from now it probably won't matter anyway ...works for me. Be sure to catch up on all your back work before starting that vacation. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A Scorpio may have you running in circles today but beware... this is a match that is highly unlikely to be beneficial to either one of you, so think this one over carefully before you commit to anything. Take it slow at work today as you do not want to appear too forward. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You have your eye on a special person today and if this is a Libra you should be cautious about any promises you make or even imply. Your career may be stalled right now, but you should see an increase in position and income in the near future. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Travel may be in the works for you today for business or pleasure; maybe even an errand of mercy that takes you to a long time friends house in the next city. Others will find their time taken up with humanitarian activities in your own general area as others look to you for help. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This is not a good time to take offense to the point of fisticuffs as someone, perhaps you, could be seriously injured with jail time involved. Others will find this is a nervous day for them as they try to hold on to a volatile temper at work. All in all, this is a good day to stay in bed. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Sometimes your need to help someone may overcome your sense of justice and fair play as you wind up taking the wrong side, which you erroneously see as being the put upon one. Back up and take a second look! Wouldn't you think a defense- less child would be more 'put upon'? PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your sense of family pride, and love come to the fore as you rush to help one of your own who is in a lot of trouble. Rest assured, you will make the difference and this particular problem may never again see the light of day, which will be due to your quick action."}, {"response": 911, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (00:56)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday, October 10, 2000 Shirley MacLaine: She is an outspoken Taurus. She is a headliner, can sing, dance and write. She knows plenty about reincarnation and the mantic arts, sciences. She told Roy, a Libra, of Siegfried and Roy, that he was a tiger in a previous life. Roy's response: ``She ought to know.'' MacLaine worried that her intellectual friends would disapprove of her best-selling book ``Out On A Limb.'' But she continues to go out on a limb. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You get what you want; circumstances turn in your favor. Write impressions. Take note of dreams. You will meet a very unusual person. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on flowers, music, ideal romance. If single, you encounter future soul mate. Married or single, domestic adjustment is featured. Libra represented. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Pull your punches. Play waiting game: What you need will be practically handed to you on a silver platter. Maintain aura of mystery, intrigue. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Lunar position emphasizes distance, language, publishing. Get priorities in order. Accept challenge of added responsibility. Capricorn plays major role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You could be on precipice of fame, fortune. Burden that doesn't belong to you will be lifted -- a reason to celebrate. Discovery made involving finance. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Let go of preconceived notions. Moon position highlights competition, partnership, marital status. Get legal affairs in order. Make fresh start in new direction. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): People have been talking about you, mostly favorably. Make decision in connection with direction, motivation, marriage. Work methods are subject to revision. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Element of luck rides with you. Don't get in your own way. Emphasis on creativity, romance, passion. Young person seeks a favor. Acquiesce -- this time. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): You will be tested, challenged. Restrictions will deliberately be put in your way. Scorpio plays behind-the-scenes role. Aquarius and Leo play roles up front. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Stay away from crowds. Be careful in traffic. Take notes. Write your impressions of places, people. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius individuals figure in scenario. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Beautify home surroundings. Make intelligent concession to Taurus who follows like a dog. Gift received, an art object, elevates value of home. Number 6. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Perfect techniques; streamline procedures. Cycle high. Make appointments with important people. Do research. Define terms. Virgo plays dramatic role. IF OCTOBER 10 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an original thinker, independent, creative, romantic. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. Often you find you are better at helping others than in promoting your own cause. During November, emphasis on possible change of residence, marital status. You could undergo spiritual revelation during December."}, {"response": 912, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (00:57)", "body": "October 10, 2000 Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker: I.R.S.: We've got what it takes to take what you've got. Today, the Moon is still passing through Pisces, a Sign that clashes with Gemini. This may not be a very good day for dealing with the public, with authority figures in general, and, in particular, with any Pisces person who has any power over you. Do your best to hold your own today. It's a good idea to maintain a low profile if you can. Every time the Moon passes through Pisces, it means you're beginning the fourth and final week in your current 28-day lunar cycle. This is a crucial point. Your Gemini goal or resolution for this cycle is being tested. You'll be tempted to give in to pressure. If things are going your way today, Gemini, congratulations for being your own boss. If, however, things aren't going your way, don't be too hard on yourself. Fighting against the odds will only make things worse. Your new lunar cycle begins on October 16. Between now and then, do your best to keep a stiff upper lip. ***thhink I'll hide for the day..."}, {"response": 913, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (17:20)", "body": "yuck (the AM is pisces)"}, {"response": 914, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (18:26)", "body": "Poor Wolfie!! I don't think I know any pissies....(however it is spelled =P)"}, {"response": 915, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (19:21)", "body": "*LAUGH*"}, {"response": 916, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (21:18)", "body": "October 11, 2000 Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, October 11, 2000 From Singer to Tough Guy: He was a Scorpio who enjoyed singing romantic ballads. His audience grew to like it, too. Toward the end of his career, he played a tough-guy detective. At the end of some segments, where he played a private detective, Dick Powell could not keep from singing a song. A different kind of tough guy, Powell sang to an appreciative audience. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Cycle moves up. You will name your own tune. Spotlight on domestic issues, possible change of residence, marital status. Libra involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Look beyond the immediate. Protect self in emotional clinches. You will win friends. Popularity grows. Avoid self-deception. See others in realistic light. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Some people want to push you into making snap decisions. Have none of it; stand tall. Accept added responsibility. Love relationship intensifies. Capricorn involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): What was started and then abandoned will again be brought to life. Focus on creativity, willingness to let go of losing proposition. Return to what you do best. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You might be humming, ``Everything is going my way.'' Make fresh start. Emphasize independence, original thinking. A different kind of romance is on horizon. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You'll be saying, ``It was worth waiting for.'' Focus on competition, partnership, marriage. Cancer, Capricorn persons play outstanding roles. Face music. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Decision will be made in connection with proposals that include partnership, marriage. Give full play to intellectual curiosity. Different lifestyle. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Another Scorpio enters your life. Check details, measurements. Be willing to revise, review, rewrite. Relationship undergoes emotional challenge. You ultimately win. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): What seemed impossible will be very probable. Be ready for change, travel, variety of sensations. Flirtation serious: Know when to say, ``Enough.'' CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Stay close to home if possible. Family member feels neglected, gives you gift. Be gracious, not obsequious. Money comes from surprise source. Taurus represented. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Define terms; outline boundaries. Give attention to real estate proposal. See people, relationships as they are, not merely as you wish they could be. Pisces involved. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Be realistic. Accept challenge of promotion. Make contacts. Cycle continues to be high. Don't go anywhere hat in hand. You've got plenty to offer, and people are aware of it. IF OCTOBER 11 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are intuitive, experience name changes not necessarily due to marriage. You are fascinated by the mantic arts, sciences, including astrology. Leo, Aquarius persons play fantastic roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Before October is finished, domestic adjustment takes place that could include change of residence, marital status."}, {"response": 917, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 10, 2000 (23:26)", "body": "October 11, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You'll feel like there is several angels helping you make decisions today. You'll feel confident in your decisions. Don't worry about others not agreeing with you -- you'll have enough support to get things done. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It's going to take a lot of courage but it's time to finish a long overdue project. It would be easy to get distracted but it will only prolong the inevitable. Shed some tears if you have to but get the task over with. You'll then be able to move on. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A large financial concern is going to have to be taken care of today. The bad news is it will leave you financially strapped for a while. The good news is the situation will finally be taken care of once and for all. Curb spending for a while -- you will recover from this. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Your significant other is not growing as quickly as you spiritually. This might concern you. This would be a good time to include your significant other in your studies. Don't get frustrated if they don't respond to you right away -- you're planting the seed for future growth."}, {"response": 918, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 11, 2000 (12:24)", "body": "October 11, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): It's advisable to keep past mistakes in mind. You must be conservative without repeating past mis- takes, and show good judgment when trying innovations. Envision a successful result and work toward it. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Communication is the best solution for your indecision. Identify what your sticking point is; what, exactly, don't you know? You may then go to the source which can fill in the gap. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Take a practical approach when dealing with friends or potential friends. Go slow while showing your interest. Be persistent without being a pest or vacillating be- tween showing interest and disinterest.. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Clear your mental fog and sharpen your focus early on. Distraction and fuzzy-mindedness cause small mis- takes with big consequences. Forgetfulness, mislaying objects and lack of purpose create annoyances. LEO (July 23-August 22): You haven't learned enough about people's opinions and desires to stop listening. Don't act on your own. Consulting with people may slow you down, but you understand what to do without ruffling feathers. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): Your ingenuity can be impractical today. Your social graces are not sharp. Think your answers through before saying anything. It may be better to say nothing than to embarrass yourself or others. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): Resist the urge to complain about your problems, or to endure complaints. Take a practical approach. What have you done to resolve your issues? Offer solutions to people, without being a busybody. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): Be aware of your need to be creative today. Don't make changes without any required author- ization. When the decision's up to you, however, respond to your internal promptings and give yourself permission. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): You're torn between need- ing acceptance and fearing rejection. Don't be ruled by your fears, but seek to satisfy your needs in a practical fashion. Others have needs, too, which you may meet. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): You are faced with building on old plans or letting yourself be inhibited by the past. Your current status isn't irrevocable; you need simply decide to take now the path not taken before. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): You're prone to distraction today. You must be more aware of your surroundings, lest your carelessness cause an accident. There is a lot going on around; inattention gets you in trouble. PISCES (February 19-March 20): Personal criticism may have a grain of truth to it, but you must sift the outer perception from the inner reality. This may help you to understand who you are, and make self-changes for the better."}, {"response": 919, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 12, 2000 (00:50)", "body": "October 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) When confronted with an immanent problem the solution is to meet it head on and keep chipping away at it. The smaller it gets, the more easily you can remove it from your relationship. A mutual friend exposes your inner feelings for a fellow Aries but you are glad it is out in the open. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Take all the time you need to finish up a job you are doing for a friend, you will be well paid for it and the recommendations will bring you more work than you thought it would. Politics may be on your mind tonight as you answer the question, \"should I or shouldn't I?\". GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you should become an optimist, or at least act the part, it will go a long way in impressing the boss and getting you a raise. A loved one may have been getting on your nerves lately and it is time to step back and review your own at- titude; could you be causing it? CANCER (June 22-July 22) You will have a chance of meeting some very influential people that will prove vital to your goals in life so don't pass up that big social event invitation. If you are asked for your opinion on a personal matter it will be wise to refrain from giving it as this is not a good time for airing your personal views. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) As the song says, \"know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em\" and this would be a good day to apply this to your invest- ment affairs as some may already have been held too long. 'Cut your losses' and get out of some really bad investments before they get worse. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may not be ready for a partnership venture but someone makes you an offer today that is awful hard to turn down. Think it over carefully before you make a decision. Romance is burning brightly for you tonight as you and your loved one is on the same wavelength. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Skepticism is fine in some cases and at the appropriate mom- ents but today is not one of them if you let being sceptical cause you to close your mind to the possibilities that some- one you consider less than perfect offers you. Home is where the start is. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A party and its planning has you all in a whirl but in order to have a success you will need to get your head on straight and your feet on the ground...Don't worry, you will be a great party giver! Never the shy one, you call in the troops, (friends), for some cleaning help. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Approaching a matter today with humor and a bubbling laugh on your lips can move mountains for you and you will see oppo- sition to your ideas melt away. Now is a good time to go home shopping, not decorating, your ideas are grander than that; home shopping for that new home!! CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Truth is always stranger than fiction and you need to bear that in mind when you start to think that someones explan- ations are just a bunch of excuses...Stranger. Work may be exhausting for you today and you should take the evening to relax and restore. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) To be a winner you have to act like one but over and above even that is, you have to feel like one! Try your new at- titude out on people you know and see if they don't look at you as if you already had what you wanted. The boss will even perk up today at your self assuredness. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) As a problem solver you excel at work where you manage to settle a dispute between the help and the management. Your prestige climbs several notches with both sides. This is a great night for romance as you and your partner take in some of the night spots."}, {"response": 920, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 12, 2000 (01:02)", "body": "OOPS _ THE ABOVE IS FOR OCTOBER 12, 2000 SO IS THIS ONE: EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A chapter in your life is coming to completion. This would be a good time to reflect on what lessons you can integrate in the future. Your new knowledge will be put to the test soon. Don't worry -- you'll pass with flying colors. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're going to be put in a chaotic situation at work that will demand more of your time and energy. It's will be temporary so you will see a light at the end of the tunnel eventually. Make sure to take quiet time for reflection and calming -- it will help you get through this situation. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You can't act immature about a situation anymore. It's time to take a new step and become more mature in handling other people. You will be surprised who will react favorably to your new attitude. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A co-worker doesn't react to a situation the way you thought she would. It is going to put a strain on your relationship. It's okay that this is happening because this will help make your friendship stronger -- as long as you handle it correctly."}, {"response": 921, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 12, 2000 (01:04)", "body": "Oh man, Wolfie...pay attention to the latter, not the former!"}, {"response": 922, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 12, 2000 (01:09)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope: Thursday, October 12, 2000 White House: This is the birthday of the White House. The cornerstone was laid Oct. 12, 1792. John Adams' family was the first to occupy it. It is the oldest building in Washington, D.C. It was originally described as the presidential palace. The White House was burned by British troops in 1814, was reconstructed, refurbished and reoccupied by 1817. Next time the name White House comes up, remember these facts. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Cycle high. Toss aside preconceived notions. Someone wants to deceive you. Protect self in emotional clinches. Psychic impressions will prove accurate. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Don't fear the unknown. You hold trump card. Focus on promotion, production, distribution. You could also be madly in love. Cancer native in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look beyond the immediate. Take cold plunge into future. You win friends and influence people. Popularity zooms. You'll have luck in speculation. Stick with number 9. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Don't be stymied by those who lack faith. Wear bright colors. Make personal appearances. Stress independence, original thinking. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on direction, motivation, what follows when you reach destination. Finish what you start. Let go of burden not your own. No pangs of conscience. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Diversify. Give full play to intellectual curiosity. Others become aware you are your own worst critic. Jealousy falls by wayside. Sagittarius is in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Rewrite, review, give serious consideration to proposals, career and marriage. Legal matters require immediate attention. Someone speaks out of turn, saying, ``Enough.'' SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You are attractive, dynamic, intelligent and exude sex appeal. Excellent for reading, writing, advertising. Flirtation gets too hot. Virgo involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be diplomatic, make peace with temperamental family member. Young person wants to win your confidence. Scenario highlights art object, flowers, music, romance. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Don't fool yourself. Element of deception is present. Get promises in writing. Pisces, Virgo persons play fantastic roles. Remodeling project will begin. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Take special care in traffic. Be kind to relative who spoke out of turn. Emphasis on marital status, promotion, distribution. Cancer, Capricorn persons play roles. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Day to cash in on creative project. Individual you helped in past returns favor. Aries, Libra persons figure in dynamic scenario. Long-distance call verifies views. IF OCTOBER 12 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are bright, have remarkable sense of humor, often get interested in too many subjects simultaneously. Oddly, your father was domestic type, your mother, a human dynamo. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. During November, be ready for added responsibility, promotion. December active and romantic."}, {"response": 923, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Oct 12, 2000 (20:52)", "body": "oh marcia, if you only knew!"}, {"response": 924, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (17:35)", "body": "Oh Wolfie...!! October 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) There is a lot of money in your near future but getting it depends on finishing something that you are hard at work on now. Don't let up today even if you are so tired of the subject that you wish you had never heard of it!! Persever- ance counts toward your goals. Taurus (Apr. 21- may 21) The special courses that you have taken on will weigh heavily in your favor when you decide to seek out a position. Family and friends may not be as congenial today as you would wish. A long distance call you make to an acquaintance solves a sticky problem. Gemini (May 22-June 21) Obstacles may get in your way today but you manage to find some 'work arounds' and the day progresses smoothly. A good day to get some student loans started or for hearing some- thing positive from those you already have in. Cancer (June 22-July 22) Someone appreciates your best effort and goes to bat for you. Some people you know may want a lot of the same things that you do but may not be willing to work as hard at getting them, so they could come off as being jealous of your successes... which they are. Leo (July 23-Aug 22) Consider all the propositions before signing anything binding, as they may look good but they may not BE good. Grab your partner and join the nearest Spa as you need a good physical workout and it is more fun with two. Virgo (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Someone you may have met today may seem a little to good to be true, and this may very well be the case. Being sweet is fine as long as the sweetness is not so much that it becomes cloying; these kinds of sweet people are usually phonies who go too far to get themselves accepted. Libra (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Overspending today could be the cause of some marital discord, or an argument with a spouse to be, especially if you are try- ing to save for the wedding. Try to practice what you preach today when giving some much needed advice to a friend or a sibling. Scorpio (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't take a back seat to anyone today as your abilities and ideas are as good or better than most of the others. Stick to your guns on a spending issue; if you can't afford some- thing, don't let yourself be talked into getting it anyway. Sagittarius (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A tipster may think he/she has a good thing but no matter how 'hot' they think it is, it is not the thing for you to bet on. Age may play a part in an upcoming decision, your age or some- ones in the family; you will make the right choice. Capricorn (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Being creative is the thing for you today as you do not mind coming up with the shocking or the outrageous in your ideas. You will find yourself on the receiving end of some really good luck today, but not through gambling. Aquarius (Jan. 21.- Feb. 19) You are overrun with job opportunities today as a competitor offers you a job and your company counteroffers with a higher paying position. An investment that you made a while back pays off today, and you receive an unexpected windfall. Pisces (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You also have money from unexpected sources in your horoscope today, and a chance at a great new romance for the singles. Try to be as sensible as possible about your relationships as some of them may get out of hand if you try to juggle too many at once."}, {"response": 925, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (17:36)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, October 13, 2000 Legendary Coach: He is a legend at the University of California, Los Angeles. Many players who went on to become star professionals give credit to the quiet coach. He is John Wooden, Libra coach who seldom had to raise his voice to get points across. Wooden is the only man elected to the basketball college Hall of Fame as player and coach. John Wooden -- Libra legendary coach. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Powerful day. Full Moon in your sign. Number 8 numerical cycle. What you requested will now be handed to you on a silver platter. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Change of scene, revision of instructions featured. What had been kept in the dark as a secret will be revealed in dramatic fashion. Libra plays major role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Shake off emotional lethargy. Make fresh start in new direction. Wear bright colors. Make personal appearances. Areas previously dark receive greater light. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your kind of day. Focus on home, family, marital status. Another Cancer native will play magnificent role. If single, you could encounter future soul mate. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Lunar aspect coincides with publishing, communication, journey. Participation in social activity results in making important contacts. Sagittarian plays role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You said you could handle details. Now you get your chance. Revise, rewrite, rebuild. Refuse to be intimidated by naysayers. Taurus, Scorpio persons featured. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You experience greater freedom of thought, action. Relationship heats up -- could get too hot. Read, write, teach and learn. Virgo figures prominently. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Attention revolves around where you live and with whom. Possibility exists for change of residence, marital status. Be diplomatic, but dance to your own tune. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Define terms. See people and relationships in realistic light. Deception present. Protect self in close quarters. Play waiting game for best offer. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Individual who made seductive promise could pull disappearing act. Avoid self deception. Count your change. Power play day features production, distribution. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You learn true meaning of what goes around comes around. Reach beyond the immediate. Make predictions that you can make come true. Long journey is distinct possibility. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): By taking initiative you could pull off financial coup. Original thinking is the key. Follow your heart. What you require will be made available. Leo involved. IF OCTOBER 13 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have unusual tastes. Some people claim you are exotic, seldom satisfied with status quo. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play outstanding roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. This month will be one of your most creative, romantic, profitable periods of the year. During November, a burden you should not have carried in first place will be removed."}, {"response": 926, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (17:50)", "body": "the obstacles in my way included sand traps and i think i managed them well (had a charity golf tournament).... did wear bright colors and made a must appearance to get my daily fix *grin*"}, {"response": 927, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (19:34)", "body": "*Applause* Take a bow, dear. I'd probably have shown up with my bucket and spade... (shovel and pail to you colonials) Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, October 14 Star Performer: When his name is on movie marquees, box-office registers jingle. He is a Cancer who has played many roles, from the ``Indiana Jones'' movies to murder mysteries. He is Harrison Ford, who's at the top of his field in a legendary manner. He was once voted a major sex symbol. In the coming two years, emphasis for Ford will be on home, sale or purchase of property. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Let go of losing proposition. Don't brood about past. Instead take cold plunge into future. You are going to succeed in finance and romance. Libra involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Cycle high. Emphasize originality, daring, pioneering spirit. Some people say, ``Never saw you this way before.'' Your response: ``Get used to it. I change every day.'' GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on proposals that include partnership, marriage. Look behind scenes. Someone may be acting up on you. Activity in theatrical production is a possibility. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Highlight intellectual curiosity. Make choices that reflect highest quality. People seek your counsel. Some take up your time for nothing. Say, ``Enough.'' LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Overcome obstacles. Take place at head of line. Transiting Moon in your Tenth House accents leadership, promotion, production. Scorpio edges way into scenario. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Excellent time for teaching, sharpening skills. Explore, investigate and report. Flirtation that was innocuous could turn serious. Written material gains prize. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Music featured. Find your rhythm; dance to your own tune. Domestic adjustment results in happiness. Be diplomatic but don't abandon principles. Aries in picture. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): What you most desire might not be good for you. Spotlight on legal affairs, marital status. Face music early. Let people know you're here to stay. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Count your change, check bank balance, and investigate possible computer error. Line up priorities. Emphasize added responsibility, promotion and production. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): What you have been waiting for will arrive. Views are verified. Prestige on the rise as result. Long-distance call contains invitation to travel. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Shake off excuses for delay. Emphasize original thinking. Don't follow others. Imprint style. Those who say it cannot be done are behind the times. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Short trip involves relative attempting to locate missing document. Analyze facts, figures. Marriage proposal could be part of traumatic scenario. Capricorn involved. IF OCTOBER 14 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are dynamic, inquisitive, a natural psychologist, reporter. You should write if only for your own pleasure. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. You make fresh start in new direction during November, a month of romantic love. During December, you could be tested to determine extrasensory perception."}, {"response": 928, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (21:07)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, October 16, 2000 Comedy Magic: Of Penn and Teller, Penn is a Pisces, 6 feet 6. The ``Mutt and Jeff'' duo was once voted Magicians of the Year. Their popular act spoofs traditional magic shows. Teller is silent; Penn talks and makes things disappear. The two are famous among fans for remaining after performances to sign autographs, chat and pose for pictures. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Many thought you could not overcome confusion associated with project. You fool them by putting priorities to work and gain confidence of higher-ups. Marriage. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Valuables lost will be recovered. Aura of humor, confusion exists -- you will make them your allies. Investment possibility is strong. Take careful look. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your kind of day. You win friends and influence people. Co-worker makes friendly gesture; respond. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play paramount roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Creative juices activated. Encourage family member to write. For you, read, advertise, publish. What was hidden will be revealed to your advantage. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Stress harmony, diplomacy. Find out where you are going and why. Focus on home, music, romance in elegant style. What you imagine will be transformed into reality. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Do not equate delay with defeat. Long-distance communication verifies claims. See people, relationships as they are, not merely as you wish they could be. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Some people comment, ``This is not like you.'' No matter. Be forceful, follow through on convictions. Romantic involvement is serious, no game-playing. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You ultimately win despite fact that some people are envious. Finish what you start. Let go of losing proposition. Your victory overcomes hard feelings. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): New attitude toward partnership, marriage: Romantic Leo will have much to do with your change of heart. Highlight pioneering spirit, new start in different direction. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): What was supposed to happen will actually take place. Take note of dreams, read and write, learn by teaching. Cancer native involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Many offers received. Maintain equilibrium. Be sure to ask for promises in writing. Your new wardrobe looks fine. Virgo individual plays pleasing role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Practical application of product, talent necessary. You can do it if you don't get tired, bored. Scorpio will be in your corner, will encourage creative efforts. IF OCTOBER 16 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Many regard you as a mysterious person. Your mother was dynamic, active; your father might have been considered a homebody. You are sensitive. Some insist you are psychic. You are not the easiest person to please. Pisces, Virgo persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: G, P, Y. You will be busy during November. Much social-political activity."}, {"response": 929, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "Whoo Wolfie!!! Time to howl?!"}, {"response": 930, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (21:27)", "body": "yes let's!"}, {"response": 931, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (22:20)", "body": "Right with you, m'dear... (wait'll you read the one below!) October 16, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You should spend some quiet time with a good friend today. You might want to keep your feelings to yourself but it's the right time to say how you feel. Get those emotions out in the open and discuss the possibilities. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius While you might not think so, sharing with others is going to help bring you into balance. Just be choosy about who you're actually sharing your time with today. Get ready to have a great revelation about yourself in your travels today. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra There is a great new financial situation coming your way. But get ready, you need to be mature on how to handle this. This is going to help bring your emotional state into balance since you're relieving a financial burden. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A mature woman will be helping you with being creative in your job. You'll feel like you've had a whole new door opened for you. Finally, you'll have a freedom in your job to create the environment you want."}, {"response": 932, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (23:21)", "body": "October 16, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your mind is made up but someone who knows you well may be able to change it so be careful you do not make more promises to that person than you will be able to keep. You are quite the philos- opher today and you will find others admiring you for the way you explain things to them. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Expanding your horizons today will enable you to grasp the whole picture and not just small bits of it. You now have an under tanding about the ways and means to use to reach your goals in life and you buckle down to them. An unexpected love interest will take up pursuit today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Use your head and not your heart in love today as the heart may say one thing but a little forethought could make you see the real picture. Practice tact today in dealing with friends or coworkers, a careless statement could hurt someone very badly. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your social life is buzzing right now and you are flying high with it. Don't forget to touch bases now and then with the real world to keep you grounded at work or school. You need to adopt a progressive approach to problem solving today. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your spiritual connections are very strong today so follow through on what prayer has gained for you. Friends can put some life back into a humdrum existence, especially after something like a divorce. Get out and circulate, you will be back to your old self in no time. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A loved one may be facing a challenge and it is up to you to give the encouragement needed for her to face these challenges head on. Get involved with people you know and try to understand them, this is a good way to turn acquain- tances into friends. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Just because someone thinks you walk on water does not mean that you can create miracles so beware of promising to do the impossible today as failing may make you look bad in a lot of peoples eyes. Be honest with that person by just saying, no. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A smooth day at work with little or no problems. Entertaining a few friends tonight may give you an unexpected lift in the creative ideas department when someone says something out of the blue which hits you with an, \"oh, yeah\". SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A partner may need you to listen today not give a lot of advice which he or she cannot use. What works for you may not work equally well for someone else. You may have a serious project that is stalled at the moment but you soon overcome the block. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today should go along trouble free if you do not go off on a tangent over some minor matter. Try to stay cool and the evening will find you out enjoying life and having fun rather than sitting home brooding over an imagined slight. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You don't mind helping someone to be able to make their own decisions but you rightly dislike being called on to make them for the person as this would bring on responsibility for that person as well as much criticism if your decision happens to miss the mark. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This should be a day of mall crawling and shopping which you are going to find very exciting due to someone you may meet in the process. A friend may have been trying to borrow money and became angry when you didn't fork over. If this was a friend he/she would not have become angry over what you choose to do with your own money."}, {"response": 933, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (20:22)", "body": "October 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Cheer up! Things are not as bad as you may think. A long range project actually gets off the ground today but you won't get any positive feedback on it, financial wise, for quite a while to come. Be patient as this endeavor is sure to be a smashing success. Taurus (Apr. 21- may 21) Learning from mistakes is the only teacher a thinking person needs and today you are a keen observer of mistakes someone else has made and you apply them to your own life. Nobody said they had to be your mistakes in order to learn from them. Gemini (May 22-June 21) Set aside some time today to finish a task that has been cry- ing to be done weeks ago. Put your imagination to the test today to come up with more efficient ways of accomplishing your goals. A good social invitation this evening gets a quick response from you. Cancer (June 22-July 22) You may feel your life is filled with problems right now but they could be there because your backbone is a little too stiff and your moods too dark. Try honoring someones wishes or compromising a hard and fast position in order to allev- iate the troubles you think are plaguing you. Leo (July 23-Aug 22) Today you could begin to feel like a new person if you will lighten up and let everyone make their own choices, you don't need to make them all. Go out with a friend this even- ing and let your hair down, reminisce about old days and old ways; share a laugh. Virgo (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) The juices are flowing and creativity rules! Small nagging Problems? keep some paper and pencil handy and write them down as they occur, then, at the end of the day, ball them up and throw them away...most small problems find their own solutions without your agonizing over them. Libra (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You are very eloquent today and this helps win those impor- tant people to your way of thinking as you clearly state your position and the advantages such a stance brings. Libras love life is something to envy as the true love and you decide to tie the knot. Scorpio (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This could be a day of new adventures for you as long as you do not drag along all the baggage from the old ending. Leave old loves and old memories out of your life and strive for an all new set of experiences. There is only one place for the past...and that is in the past. Sagittarius (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Attention spent on your personal life, likes and dislikes, and what you personally want to happen for you is not some- thing to be thought of as a waste of time. When you are happy and satisfied everyone around you fares much better; you owe it to them to take care of your own needs. Capricorn (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You have a great faith which you do not compromise for any- thing and friends and family greatly admire you for that. If you are a writer this is a good day to see some recog- nition for your efforts, perhaps even a contract. Be gentle with a child this evening. Aquarius (Jan. 21.- Feb. 19) Someone admires you and is impressed by your attitude and outlook on life. This person may not always show it but the devotion is there. Stay focused on your particular vision of the future and you will be able to overcome your obstacles to success. Pisces (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Nature draws you today as she is clothed in all her beauty of reds and golds. This is a good time to take a ride in the country to drink in some of that beauty as you unwind from daily pressures. Evening may find you out with friends having a good time; make it a safe and secure night."}, {"response": 934, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (20:44)", "body": "well, i totally ruined everything for today."}, {"response": 935, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (00:13)", "body": "I nearly did myself in today, too. Wolfie!!! What is it with us?? Twins! *Hugs, Sweeetie* Oh man, I did not need this one for tomorrow... October 17, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You've been praying for an answer and this is the time for you to get it. Listen to the information you're getting and implement it. The only way things are going to work is if you make it a part of your everyday life. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You've been very hard on yourself lately and alienating yourself from others has been your usual pattern. This needs to stop. Accept yourself for who you are -- others like you just the way you are. Spend more time with a Leo - you'll roar with him! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You need to focus on a person that is not being who he claims to be. Get below the surface of what he is showing you. You can make a decision whether you want to work with this person or not -- but make sure to probe for answers. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces This would be a great day just to experience a wonderful calmness. Have you gone into nature lately? This would be a good idea to get your thoughts together. Bring two friends so you can enjoy some company while you walk your path."}, {"response": 936, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (07:16)", "body": "Who's a Leo around here?"}, {"response": 937, "author": "luan", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (10:11)", "body": "I am!"}, {"response": 938, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (17:11)", "body": "well, then, maybe that's what it takes to get to the bottom of what's going on around here (marcia, see my email)."}, {"response": 939, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (17:58)", "body": "Wolfie, anything I can do to help...just say the word! Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, October 18 Texas Runner: He is reputed to be the fastest man in the world. He is tall, lean, muscular Michael Johnson, a Virgo. He holds Olympic records and, at 34 years old, wants to run even faster. Those interested in astrology point out that as a Virgo his ruling planet is Mercury, the fastest moving planet in the solar system. The question is, Can Michael Johnson run any faster? ARIES (March 21-April 19): You will know what you want as separated from what is needed. Practicality mixes with imagination. You recall that Einstein said, ``Imagination over knowledge.'' TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You may have to repeat some errands. You will be active, dynamic, exude sex appeal. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons will play stunning roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Financial resources much more stable than anticipated. You locate lost article. Major domestic adjustment proves beneficial. Libra plays role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Cycle high. Accent personality; take initiative in making important contacts. Family member apologizes for recent misspoken words. Be lenient; accept. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Secrets exposed. You receive benefit of added information. Focus on promotion, responsibility, distribution. Utilize showmanship, color-coordination to put across program. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Puzzle pieces fall into place: What was lost will be recovered. Plan on universal scale. Discard previous notions. You'll be in company of big-leaguers. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Don't waste time with those who are prisoners of mediocrity. Free yourself to be independent, creative, capable of displaying pioneering spirit. Accelerate pace. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You will be going far away from home. Set your mind, emotions on this fact. You need not always be a hometown boy. Cancer, Capricorn figure prominently. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Experiment; take cold plunge into future. Focus on accelerated social activities, advertising, publishing. Gemini individual plays remarkable role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You will be wondering if it is true that opposites attract each other. You will be intrigued by one who ridicules some of your ideas. Scorpio involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Individual who shares your hobby wants to be closer than a working relationship. Be careful. This could involve more than you want to handle. Write feelings. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Creative ideas featured in connection with home. Decorating, remodeling will be highlighted. Suddenly you know where the expense can be cut. Taurus, Libra are in picture. IF OCTOBER 18 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You can be generous to a fault. You would rather give than receive. You become a member of charitable-political campaigns. Aries, Libra persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: I and R. November will be exciting, featuring change, travel, variety of sensations. During December, emphasis on possible change of residence, marital status."}, {"response": 940, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (18:00)", "body": "Oh man, too significant Libras in my life that I know of.."}, {"response": 941, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct 18, 2000 (11:24)", "body": "both of my parents are libras."}, {"response": 942, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 18, 2000 (20:28)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, October 19, 2000 Leo and Libra: New singing sensation, the Dixie Chicks. Two of this trio are Libras; the third is a Leo. The trio is becoming quite famous and known for creating a new kind of country music. Their style of music and dress has been controversial. But once again, the harmony between Libras and Leos is becoming evident. The same applies to people in general: Persons born under Libra and Leo are harmonious. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You may feel closed in. The feeling is temporary. You find a way to achieve greater freedom of thought, action. Read, write, learn by teaching. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Dispute among siblings dominates. Soon, however, you find different ways of self-expression. Attention revolves around home, family, ways of achieving harmony. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Define terms. See people in realistic light. Maintain aura of mystery. Avoid self-deception. What was valuable and had been lost will be recovered. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Puzzle pieces fall into place. Read correctly. Let the cards fall where they may. Capricorn, another Cancer native will play outstanding roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Possibility of long journey should be regarded as challenge. Let go of burden. Give yourself time to travel, romance. Accept accolade in gracious manner. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Let go of preconceived notions. Take cold plunge into future. Imprint style. Don't follow others. Wear bright colors. Make personal appearances. Leo represented. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership, marital status. Cancer, Capricorn persons could dominate scenario. Avoid brooding. Emphasize meditation. Answers found within. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Highlight versatility. Give full play to intellectual curiosity. Act on findings. Don't hide from truth. Emphasize love and laughter. Sagittarian is in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 21-Dec. 21): Dig deep for information. Check details that include measurements. Revise, review, stress accuracy. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio individuals are on your side. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Focus on short journeys involving relatives. Learn by teaching. Share knowledge. Moon position highlights partnership, marriage. What was lost will be located. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Attention revolves around home, family, protection of property. Music plays. Dance to your own tune. Taurus, Libra persons will prove loyalty. Luck with number 6. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Do things your way despite objections by lesser people. Maintain aura of mystery. Let others play guessing game. Solution to dilemma will be forthcoming. Virgo involved. IF OCTOBER 19 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an original thinker. Some people claim you are arrogant. It doesn't matter. Imprint style. Don't follow others. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. During November, important domestic adjustment could include possible change of residence, marital status. During December, spiritual values surface, you will find joy in holidays."}, {"response": 943, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (14:21)", "body": "October 19, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn This would be a good time to be quiet and look inside for the answers. There are some things from the past that are holding you back. Once you identify them and work on them, you'll be free to soar! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're going to have to stand up for yourself today so find all the courage inside you and do it. By finally saying what you believe, you're going to receive something of great value and importance. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You've been carrying around an idea about an old situation. Stop. A young man is going to bring out your playful side. Don't worry about what other people think of you -- go with it and have a ball! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You've learned about a situation that has shaken your confidence. It's okay. This will pass and you'll come out on top. Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Breathe and calm yourself -- it will all blow over."}, {"response": 944, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "October 19, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): Unusual experiences seem threatening today, but only because they shake you out of your comfortable routine. Are you getting a wake-up call to move on to your destiny? Awaken to your life's higher callings. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Listen to your intuition and follow your creativity. This is a good time to trust your instincts, especially in situations requiring taking the initiative. Old ideas can be reworked into a finished project. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Knowledge of trends can put you a step ahead of the crowd, perhaps to your enrichment. Futurist studies may help you decide on a job or investment. Learn about emerging technologies for profitability. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your assertiveness brings others into line, but their resentment may fade if they see results. Place the focus on victory, not on aimless busy work or the personal satisfaction of controlling others. LEO (July 23-August 22): You encounter new challenges today, and your own lack of self-confidence is probably the only thing to make you fail. Rise to the occasion; there is always a first time, and this is it. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): You are very energetic today, but your focus is very here-and-now. Don't be distracted by details leading away from long-term goals; make your actions advance them instead. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): There may be some trouble mixing work with your children, or with romance today. You may have some luck at the lotto or other games of chance. Your creativity energizes work and boosts your standing. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): It's a great day for advanc- ing long-term projects and long-range plans. Listen to your dissatisfied inner voice for what's wrong, then start rearrang- ing things to reduce the conflict. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): Place your attention on the long-range benefits of your job. For some, just the job will be something to keep. For others, employment benefits should be explored for maximum coverage. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): Your arguments go better if they're not personal but stay on the issues instead. Assert your point of view, but be flexible enough to see through other eyes. Other ideas have value for you. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): The day does not go smoothly today. Things occur in fits and starts, and never as expected. Empty your mind of anxiety and the need to control. Ride the waves as they occur, and be spontaneous. PISCES (February 19-March 20): Your dealings with people can take a hard edge today. Marital and romantic interests can benefit from little assertiveness. An honest attitude about what you want can get you results."}, {"response": 945, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (20:28)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, October 20, 2000 Rob Lowe: There was a time when this Pisces actor attracted more notoriety than good publicity. He has two sons now and promises to be more selective in choosing roles. ``My children have joined the movie-going public and they only enjoy their innocence once,'' Rob Lowe says. ``I won't ruin it for them by having them see their dad in horrendous roles on the big screen.'' Lowe's on the right track. He co-stars in the hit TV show ``The West Wing.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Your cycle moves up. You will then make right choices. For now, give attention to home, property, loved ones. Libra plays fascinating role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): If you have the persistence, courage to wait, you will be inviting victory. Define terms. Outline boundaries. Check measurements. Pisces featured. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): People see a different you. Focus on business career, financial transaction. Love relationship intensifies -- could get too hot. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Look beyond the immediate. Wait for upward trend in your life. Aries, Libra, another Cancer-born person figure prominently. Dramatic reunion is coming. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Cycle is moving up. Judgment and intuition are honed to razor-sharpness. Accent leadership. Don't follow others: Let them follow you. Romance in picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You're called upon to be referee. Involve fair share of profits for each person, including yourself. Question concerning marriage arises. Capricorn involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diversify, emphasize humor, versatility. Check wardrobe. You'll be invited to prestigious social affair. Gemini, Sagittarius persons make right choices. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Revise, rewrite, review and do things your way. Promotion will be received along with unique honor. Be aware of details, including correct measurements. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be analytical. Find out the why of recent happenings. Relatives involved. Do what must be done. Engagement will be announced. Virgo plays vital role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 2-Jan. 19): You say, ``I've been here before.'' You experience deja vu. Partnership opportunity is fleeting. Concern relating to marriage exists. Libra involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Spotlight on offers received that include career, marriage. What you escaped from has now caught up to you. Face the music. You did the right thing. Pisces plays role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Relationship apparently broken will be revived. Participate in major financial transaction. Focus on promotion, distribution. Cancer native involved. IF OCTOBER 20 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are emotional, sensitive, creative, loyal to family. You are intrigued by food, recipes, restaurant management. Capricorn, Cancer persons play dynamic roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. December will be memorable, not only because of holidays, but because you will come up with winning situation. Taurus plays role."}, {"response": 946, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (21:04)", "body": "ooooooo...marcia, i got an answer to one of my questions today."}, {"response": 947, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (00:09)", "body": "So did I !!!! read your email !!! October 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today is going to be very fruitful day for you at work, you'll get a whole lot done and everyone will be very happy with you! Be careful how you spend your time, it will be very easy for you to get sidetracked and waste time. Don't let the jealousies and egos of co-workers make you feel blue, you are above this. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You have the unique ability to spark enthusiasm in those around you, use this talent wisely and the boss will take notice! Your leadership skills are also at a high and you should do some- thing which takes advantage of this. Don't ruffled feathers of a loved one today by saying something really out of line, remember if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Be careful if you have to sign any binding contracts or legal documents today, and avoid making any unnecessary promises or commitments. A very close friend offers use a financial advice today, listened very closely and pick out the minor falls, this will actually be a very good tip once it's refined. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Not a very good day to argue with people, no day really is, but this date is exceptionally bad for arguing or bickering. A loved one is about to go a long trip and are very nervous about it. Everything will turn out all right with the trip and they have no need to worry. Avoid lending money today, especially to relatives, because the likelihood of you not getting it back is high. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Mental pursuits such as crossword puzzles, or solving com- plicated problems at work will be something that you are good at today. Your love life will be looking up provided that you get out of the house and get somewhere public. Take some quality time spent with a loved one or close friend. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) New opportunities are everywhere today, and you should grad at the good ones and forget the mediocre ones. Important opportunities concerning your business may arise late in the day, and should be addressed immediately. A very good dream will occur tonight and have prophetic influence, but it will be very hard to remember. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Don't believe everything you hear except car horns and train whistles, because most everything else today will not be true. One of your favorite co-workers is about to get in serious trouble at work if you do not do something to help them. Not a very good day to argue with someone you love, you may damage your relationship. Try to find some common ground and work things out. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Be careful not to overdo it today, you do not want to stress yourself out because tonight will be a very active night. A very good night tonight for romance, take a loved one out to a dinner and movie. For the single out there get yourself somewhere public and mingle because this is a very good day to meet that special someone. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A great time to make those changes you have been seriously considering at work, but make sure they are subtle changes. Another great day for meeting people and trying the things but you may need to do something to boost your energy level. Try jogging our tennis or maybe even bike riding. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A headache early in the day will actually be a good sign because the rest of the day will be terrific! Do something fun with a loved one, and avoid any arguments with them at all costs. Your loved ones feelings are easily hurt today, not for any particular reason, it's just a cycle they are in. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today would be a good day to finish up projects and start new ones. Having a high creativity level will benefit you in many ways that will have long term effects. Delay a co-worker from leaving for just five minutes and you will prevent them from getting in a serious auto accident. Don't let your dream to- night depressed you, it's meaning is actually very positive. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Don't be too cynical today at the office, it will have a nega- tive effect if you are. Be sure not to let your imagination get the best of you, there really is no conspiracy at your home. A youngster you are acquainted with is about to exper- iment with dangerous drugs, handle this one very carefully or your intervention will mean nothing."}, {"response": 948, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (18:03)", "body": "I made a commitment today. Binding and lifetime. Carefully considered. I am floating!!!"}, {"response": 949, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (18:05)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, October 20, 2000 Rob Lowe: There was a time when this Pisces actor attracted more notoriety than good publicity. He has two sons now and promises to be more selective in choosing roles. ``My children have joined the movie-going public and they only enjoy their innocence once,'' Rob Lowe says. ``I won't ruin it for them by having them see their dad in horrendous roles on the big screen.'' Lowe's on the right track. He co-stars in the hit TV show ``The West Wing.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Your cycle moves up. You will then make right choices. For now, give attention to home, property, loved ones. Libra plays fascinating role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): If you have the persistence, courage to wait, you will be inviting victory. Define terms. Outline boundaries. Check measurements. Pisces featured. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): People see a different you. Focus on business career, financial transaction. Love relationship intensifies -- could get too hot. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Look beyond the immediate. Wait for upward trend in your life. Aries, Libra, another Cancer-born person figure prominently. Dramatic reunion is coming. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Cycle is moving up. Judgment and intuition are honed to razor-sharpness. Accent leadership. Don't follow others: Let them follow you. Romance in picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You're called upon to be referee. Involve fair share of profits for each person, including yourself. Question concerning marriage arises. Capricorn involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diversify, emphasize humor, versatility. Check wardrobe. You'll be invited to prestigious social affair. Gemini, Sagittarius persons make right choices. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Revise, rewrite, review and do things your way. Promotion will be received along with unique honor. Be aware of details, including correct measurements. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be analytical. Find out the why of recent happenings. Relatives involved. Do what must be done. Engagement will be announced. Virgo plays vital role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 2-Jan. 19): You say, ``I've been here before.'' You experience deja vu. Partnership opportunity is fleeting. Concern relating to marriage exists. Libra involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Spotlight on offers received that include career, marriage. What you escaped from has now caught up to you. Face the music. You did the right thing. Pisces plays role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Relationship apparently broken will be revived. Participate in major financial transaction. Focus on promotion, distribution. Cancer native involved. IF OCTOBER 20 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are emotional, sensitive, creative, loyal to family. You are intrigued by food, recipes, restaurant management. Capricorn, Cancer persons play dynamic roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. December will be memorable, not only because of holidays, but because you will come up with winning situation. Taurus plays role."}, {"response": 950, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, October 21, 2000 Edward G. Robinson: When studio executives observed him walking in, they looked at each other with astonishment. The question on their lips was: ``We paid all that money for that little guy from Romania?'' It turned out that the ``little guy'' was to become a big box-office hit playing gangsters and other roles. He was Sagittarian Edward G. Robinson, a great actor and later an authority on art. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Take your time. Some people are trying to deceive you and want you to trip by making snap decision. Protect self in emotional clinches. Avoid self-deception. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Strike hard bargain. Focus on land, real estate, buying and selling property. Others will realize you mean business. Capricorn plays major role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): What was started can be completed if you so permit. Look beyond the immediate. Plan ahead for long journey. Love relationship will sizzle, CANCER (June 21-July 22): Chance exists to win big in financial world. Take initiative. Don't follow others. Emphasize original thinking. Leo will play dramatic role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Cycle high. Take initiative. Request consultation with higher-ups. Wear bright colors. Make personal appearances. You will be at right place at special moment. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Help others see funny side of life. Look behind scenes for vital answers. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles. Highlight intellectual curiosity. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Don't back down. You possess what others need -- don't let them fool you into thinking otherwise. Taurus, Scorpio individuals play dynamic roles. Stick with number 4. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): People who previously ignored you will now seek your favor. Read and write. Enjoy flirtation without letting it go too far. Virgo writes pertinent message. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-DEC. 21): You could be talk of the town. Stick close to home. Music will play. Dance to your own tune. Home repairs are essential. Publicity stunt will work. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Check accounting procedures. Aura of deception exists. Count your change; be aware of possible computer error. You will be regarded as mysterious figure. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Don't pull punches. Fight for legal rights. Emphasis on partnership, marriage. Focus on promotion, production, distribution. Cancer native involved. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You'll be saying, ``What goes around, comes around.'' Relationship that once ended will be revived. Protect interests. Don't give up something of value for nothing. IF OCTOBER 21 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are highly intelligent, possess remarkable sense of humor, are versatile, at times interested in too many areas simultaneously. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play dramatic roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. November could be one of your most powerful months, featuring money and love. During December you will be relieved of burden not your own in first place."}, {"response": 951, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (19:30)", "body": "*Sizzle* ? I became engaged today. Can't wait till tomorrow!"}, {"response": 952, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (19:45)", "body": "ooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! congratulations marcia!!!!! *HUGS*"}, {"response": 953, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (20:13)", "body": "*blushing* Thank you! What more can possibly happen tomorrow?! I'll be moving much closer to you, Wolfie!!!"}, {"response": 954, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (00:03)", "body": "Gemini (May 22-June 21) Gemini Bumper Sticker: It is better to have loafed and lost, than never to have loafed at all. We humans are rational animals. We're conscious of ourselves as separate and individual beings. We're also herd animals. We're also aware of ourselves as interdependent and social beings. The Moon is the symbol for our \"herd consciousness.\" The Sign through which the Moon is passing each day describes the mood and the mentality of the herd in general. Today, the Moon is passing through Leo, a Sign that vibrates on the same wavelength with Gemini. This means that your personal vibes are in sync with the \"mass consciousness.\" Each month, when the Moon passes through Leo, people in general are more receptive to the personality and temperament of Gemini. \"When you're hot, you're hot. When you're not, you're not.\" Today it should be easier for you to be \"in the zone.\" It's Saturday, and hopefully, you've got something planned to make it a fun day for you. While you're still in the first week of your new lunar cycle, tell yourself what you want to accomplish by the time it ends on November 11. Your energy is still building. Get ready for the first burst of your new energy on Monday. Take advantage of any opportunity that's staring you in the face. In general, this \"Moon in Leo\" interval is good for Gemini. Move your feet and have some FUN today."}, {"response": 955, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (00:04)", "body": "Cancer (June 22-July 22) Cancer Quote of the Day: \"That kind of life is most happy which affords us most opportunities of gaining our own self-esteem.\" - Samuel Johnson Cancer, today the Moon is still in the Sign of Leo. It's the fourth day of your new 28-day lunar cycle that ends on November 13. During each new lunar cycle, Life offers you the time and energy to increase your self-worth and capitalize on whatever talents and resources you possess. All Life asks is that you do YOUR part! Life NEEDS you to PARTICIPATE in the creative process. How? By taking AIM, exercising your WILL, and saying what you WANT! This is how Life works. What is your INTENTION for this current lunar cycle? Be specific! What, specifically, do you want to DO or to HAVE by November 13 when this cycle ends? SAY IT, Cancer! And, say it with FEELING so that Life knows you MEAN it. \"The essence of creation is INTENTIONALITY.\" Your will cannot be done unless you intentionally and unequivocally EXPRESS what you WANT. Today, while the Moon is still passing through the Sign of Leo and still in the Second House of your horoscope, be willing to look at your sense of SELF-WORTH and see if you truly VALUE yourself. Cancer, do you honestly believe you DESERVE to have good things happen in your life? If you don't, Life will not - and cannot - over-ride your decision to de-value yourself. You can only receive as much as you believe you deserve. Let today be the day when you choose to re-enfranchise yourself! Get out of neutral - shift into low gear - and FULL SPEED AHEAD!"}, {"response": 956, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (00:06)", "body": "Sagittarius (Nov. 23-Dec. 21) Sagittarius Quote of the Day: As many arrows, loosed several ways, come to one mark, so may a thousand actions, once afoot, end in one purpose. - Shakespeare Today the Moon is activating your Ninth House, as it does each month when it passes through the Sign of Leo. It's a good day to affirm your belief in the GOODNESS, BEAUTY and TRUTH of Life - not for Life's sake but for YOUR OWN SAKE. Research shows that people who believe that Life is inherently good, beautiful and meaningful are both mentally and physically healthier than people who have a cynical, skeptical attitude toward their existence. So, Sagittarius, if only for today, LET'S HEAR IT FOR LIFE! Make an act of FAITH in your Self. Be willing to believe that you're here for a purpose. Be grateful for having the opportunity to be alive. If something is dampening your spirit, ask your Higher Power for a miracle! What have you got to lose?"}, {"response": 957, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (00:08)", "body": "Yes, he has a cold and is miserable and at the same time elated. My Taurus special for my son and one other... Taurus (April 21-May 21) Taurus Quote of the Day: It is of practical value to learn to like yourself. Since you must spend so much time with yourself you might as well get some satisfaction out of the relationship. - Norman Vincent Peale The Moon is still passing through Leo, a Sign that is NOT in harmony with Taurus. Be glad it's Saturday! Whenever the Moon passes through Leo, it seems that it requires more effort to get what you want. People in general don't seem to be as sensitive or supportive as you'd like. Remember, Taurus! Today's a turning point in your lunar cycle. You're due to feel a burst of emotional energy that's been building up since your new cycle began. If everything's going fine in your life now, great! You're doing something right! If, however, you feel that things aren't going your way today, don't lost faith! THIS TOO SHALL PASS, probably by tomorrow! Get focused! Tell yourself what you want to happen during this cycle. If you don't feel up to snuff today, take time to pamper yourself!"}, {"response": 958, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (19:37)", "body": ""}, {"response": 959, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (19:38)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, October 22, 2000 Jackie Collins: She was born in England, has written best-sellers, is beautiful and familiar with the mantic arts and sciences. She regards herself as an expert tarot card reader. She blends mysticism with humor and says it helps in developing characters for the roles she portrays. She has been dubbed ``the grande dame of trash.'' Jackie Collins is well aware that she is a Libran. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Blend showmanship with color coordination. Blow your own horn and that of product. Love relationship is hot and heavy. Capricorn is in picture. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Reunion proves dramatic, emotional. Decide to let go of losing proposition. Plan ahead for journey that could take you overseas. Aries involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Answer to question: Make fresh start. Do not follow others. Relationship with aggressive Leo might turn out OK. Provide enlightenment for areas previously dark. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your kind of day. Focus on home, family, marriage. New wardrobe will make all the difference. Another Cancer native wants to be close, is sincere. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Trust judgment, intuition. Cycle high. Wear bright colors; make personal appearances. Be confident, direct. Deal with Sagittarius. Luck with number 3. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Rebuild; test structure. Short trip involves Scorpio. You will be told how wonderful you are. Measurements could require correction. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Events, relationship will prove you are very attractive. You emit personal magnetism, sex appeal. Don't break too many hearts. Gemini figures prominently. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): People attempt to tell you how to live your life. Listen for a while to be polite. Finally, decide, ``Enough is enough.'' Possible change of residence, marital status. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look beyond the immediate. Find out why special person wants to deceive you. Pisces, Virgo individuals play major roles. Streamline procedures. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You possess something many people want and they want something for nothing. Protect property, loved ones. Promotion due. Pressure will be on -- you're up to it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You could be on precipice of added recognition, fame and fortune. People realize you are doing more than your share. Steps taken to assure you of compensation. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Assert yourself. Don't permit others to steal limelight. Co-worker makes important concession: Show appreciation. Leo will play powerful role. IF OCTOBER 22 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an original thinker. Some people claim you are ahead of your time; others find you stimulating but controversial. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play dynamic roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. During November you will be relieved of burden you should not have assumed in first place. New love could enter your life during December."}, {"response": 960, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (19:39)", "body": "Nope, no Leos in my life!"}, {"response": 961, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Oct 22, 2000 (09:56)", "body": "You got engaged?"}, {"response": 962, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 22, 2000 (10:41)", "body": "I did!"}, {"response": 963, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 22, 2000 (13:03)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, October 23, 2000 Wonderful Story: A year or so ago he was a grocery box boy. He is now a Saint Louis Rams quarterback with a contract for millions of dollars. He is Cancer-born Kurt Warner. He helped his team win this year's Super Bowl. Georgia Frontierre, the team's owner, is an astrology aficionado. Asked if astrology helped her win the Super Bowl, she replied: ``It was in God's hands.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Job that annoyed you will be completed. You will get more credit than perhaps deserved. You are on brink of being famous, rich. Libra plays role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Stress original thinking. Don't follow the crowd -- let people follow you. Love relationship could get overheated. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on direction, meditation. Answers will be found within. Emphasis on home, security, marriage. Cancer, Capricorn individuals will play top roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Highlight versatility without scattering forces. Relatives, trips, traffic jams could be featured. Maintain humor, emotional equilibrium. Gemini involved. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Check details regarding recent transaction. It could turn out you did not get fair share. State your case. You'll get improved financial deal as result. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Let others know that you realize your own worth. Emphasize personality, initiative, increased popularity. Cycle high. You'll be at right place when it counts. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Something is happening at home. You will be told about it. Involves luxury item more valuable than originally anticipated. Taurus, another Libran are in picture. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Aura of deception exists: Be aware, alert, don't confide or confess. Let others play guessing game. Play cards close to vest. Toss aside previous opinions. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Focus on responsibility, promotion, distribution. You claim you had better way of doing things. Now you are called on it. Cancer native involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Finish what you start. Be grateful for added recognition, but avoid being obsequious. Highlight universal appeal, open lines of communication. Aries represented. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Once again you are called upon to display originality. Imprint style; maintain creative control. Love relationship is going well. You are questioned regarding marital status. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Legal agreement proves beneficial. Recent setback will boomerang in your favor. Spotlight on partnership, marriage. You'll be told, ``Count your blessings.'' IF OCTOBER 23 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are inquisitive, a natural writer, psychologist. You are attractive, intelligent and enjoy flirting. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play important roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. During November you make fresh start in new direction and become creatively selfish where romance is concerned. Intuition serves you well during December."}, {"response": 964, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 22, 2000 (23:23)", "body": "October 23, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) If you would have true happiness then practice the fine art of giving and the getting will take care of itself. The only re- ward worth having to you is the happiness shining in anothers eyes. You visit a yard sale and find the item you have been searching for, guess what? They don't make them anymore! TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Tying yourself to a single project for several weeks at a time is self defeating and you will likely miss accomplishing some very positive things when you do this. On long, tedious jobs, delegate the work and keep yourself open to the creativity that spurs you forward. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) While you are not one to seek out a lot of luxury this is a good day for finding some little something to reward yourself with. You've done a good job so go ahead and enjoy your pri- vate little luxury, whatever you may choose. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Entertaining people today could put you in the right place for the contacts you need to get your ideas rolling and your busi- ness on the ball. Work with children may also take up some of the hours in today but they are the hours you enjoy the most. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Slight of hand and underhanded business practices and ethics could cause your business to go into a downward spiral today and, unless some things are amended, it will crash and burn. Night may bring on an arguments with a loved one over these same things. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A friend sends you a few clients that he does not have time to take care of and they like your work which also brings in new business and before you know it, what you thought of as a hob- by is now a full fledged business. Maybe it would be good to consider a partnership with the one who got you started. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) If your nose stays to close to the grindstone then you cannot see where you are going or what is going on around you. A loved one has about had it and is considering moving on and letting you stay married to the business. Better wake up and smell the capuchino! SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your alert manner today stops a dangerous situation from develop- ing that could have seriously injured someone on the job. You should hear some good news in the afternoon concerning a pending or possible lawsuit. Take the family out to supper tonight. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) There are several people on your side today in an ongoing debate, try not to let a temper fit of yours be the thing to alienate them. Loved ones may not be on your side in this and maybe you should take some time to think it through from several angles before it goes any farther. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Cement your relationship with a loved one today by setting the date, this person has been kept on the string long enough, and since you are looking at a lucrative career change you will be able to afford such a step. Express your deepest feelings today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Expect one or more confrontations at work today as not everyone is happy with the changes that you managed to push through. You don't like to fire anyone but today you may have to just to re- store discipline and productivity to the work place. Harmony will be restored by quitting time. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) In dealing with an egotist it is best to simply smooth his ruf- fled feathers and go ahead and accomplish the task alone. He will never know that you had to 'clean' up his mess and you will have a more peaceful day. Put your feet up and forget work for the evening."}, {"response": 965, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 23, 2000 (19:55)", "body": "October 23, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn What are you doing for your fellow human today? You have the opportunity to create change -- don't ignore what's right in front of you. Bravery is awarded, even if you don't see the results right away. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Fun is the only topic on the agenda. It's okay to drop the usual routine and take a day for yourself. You have had a lot of stress lately and the angels are encouraging you to work on releasing your tension. Laughter is good for the soul. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You feel a cool breeze -- is that an angel near you? Yes, you are being inspired by your Guardian Angels to help others realize their potential. Bring the outsiders into the fold -- they have been wanting to be in your angelic presence for a while but were too shy to ask. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You need to get packing because your travel plans are coming up soon. Make a list of things you need so you don't forget anything. Ask Archangel Raphael to protect you in your travels. He'll be with you the whole time."}, {"response": 966, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 23, 2000 (19:58)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday, October 24, 2000 Kevin Brown: He weighs 200 pounds and is 6 feet 4. He is a Pisces pitcher for the Los Angeles Dodgers. He was brought to the team with the understanding that he would be an outstanding pitcher. Brown more than lives up to those expectations. When his team gets in a reasonable amount of runs, he pitches well enough to win. He is right-handed, he bats right, throws right. Kevin Brown: a winning pitcher. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You find new ways of getting work done. A different kind of romance will be part of scenario. You can exude sex appeal. Don't break too many hearts. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on children, home, family, recent decision concerning direction. Do what your heart tells you to do, despite those who might object. Capricorn involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Accent humor, versatility, intelligence. Open lines of communication. Someone in distant city wants to tell you something. Sagittarian plays leading role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Revise, review, rewrite. What previously was rejected will now be enthusiastically accepted. Cut your way through mass of red tape. Scorpio figures prominently. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Your kind of day. Focus on change, travel, variety of experiences. Written word important. Get impressions on paper. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius are in picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Emphasis on home, beauty, flowers, music. Family member confides, ``I need to see more of you.'' Cycle high. Moon in your sign highlights initiative, element of luck. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Look behind scenes. Define terms; be discreet. Maintain aura of mystery. Let others play guessing games. Scenario highlights element of glamour. Pisces involved. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You win friends and influence people. Excellent for obtaining funding for unique project. In matters of speculation, stick with number 8. Cancer native involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Moon at top part of your chart emphasizes leadership, added recognition. Focus on distance, international affairs. You could be in midst of news-making transaction. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Let go of preconceived notions. Emphasize original thinking, inventiveness, breaking free from those who take you for granted. New love is on horizon. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Check accounting procedures. Emphasis on security, structure, home, marital status. Be with one who displays faith in you. Capricorn figures in scenario. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Spotlight on marital status, legal affairs, reputation. Display humor, versatility. You'll be dealing with bright Gemini. Protect self in emotional clinches. IF OCTOBER 24 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have unusual voice, sense of drama, can win your way through diplomacy. Mother was excellent cook, father enjoyed complaining. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play outstanding roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. During November, emphasis will be on home, food, security. Meditation could bring answers from within."}, {"response": 967, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 23, 2000 (22:05)", "body": "October 24, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your far sighted philosophies win you friends and influence people today as someone suggests you for a richly deserved award culminating your months of hard work with a little icing on the cake. Accept it with pride, you have earned it!! TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Seeing the big picture was never the problem for you as you have always defined your goals but came up short on how to reach them. Today someone points you in the right direction and suddenly you are cruising straight for them. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) While your fighting spirit will be just under the surface today you must endeavor not to let it get the best of you and cause a disturbance with someone who only wishes you well. If you must confront someone make it the person you are upset with. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Need to get in touch with someone fast and that person is out of town? Don't get down hearted just get 'down' and find a way ...telephone, telegram, fax, e-mail, ship to shore; even the snail mail if that's all that is left to do. Where there is a will there is also a way! LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your esp is connected and smokin' today as you out distance your competition with little or no effort. You find joy in the midst of your friends today as you find out things that you always wondered about. Children need your help now and you are capable of being a role model. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Your Virgo nature gives you much insight to peoples general natures but don't forget that everyone does not hold to the general norm a large proportion of the time due to emotions or personal problems they may have. Remember this while dealing with an employee today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your motto would seem to be: if it is hard to accomplish I can do it now, but if it is impossible then it will take a little longer! This is put to the test today at work and you come through with flying colors much to the surprise of someone who designed the whole day to test you. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) There are changes coming your way and you may get some inkling of what they are today so you can begin to prepare. Whatever the change it will be something major and drastic but not necessarily bad or bad for your finances. A simple sort of major shakeup. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Stand ready to rescue a loved one as this person is about to make a mistake that nobody, not even you , can prevent so watch, wait, and be ready. You may receive some investment tips today but no matter how good they sound this is not a good day to bet on them. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your marital argument that you are having a hard time resolv- ing may be of your own making. Are you taking personal feel- ings of anger at someone else out on your loved one? This could be one of the reasons as the only cure is to stop doing it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Changing your world could be the hardest thing you have ever attempted as it involves changing yourself and rearranging your priorities to reflect your new attitudes. This can be done but it must be worked at. Loved ones are likely to see the changes when they start. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You could be the recipient of a financial windfall today but be careful with the money and don't tell everyone about it. \"Friends\" come out of the woodwork when there is money in- volved. Others will find their luck magnified today and get much accomplished."}, {"response": 968, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 23, 2000 (22:24)", "body": "October 24, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn An important personal belonging is misplaced. If you panic, you'll never be able to clear your mind enough to find it. While it would be very easy for you to get stressed over this, keep your cool. It will turn up someplace you least expect it. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Have you noticed a change in yourself? Others have noticed a change in you and it's for the better. Whatever hard work you have been doing has certainly paid off so show off your brand new attitude. You'll be impressing those you least expect. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra We know how you hate parties but you have no choice in attending this one. While you rather be anywhere else but there, talk to some new people. Strangers won't be strangers for long. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're feeling exhausted lately and that's because you are running yourself ragged. Ask yourself if this is all worth it. It probably isn't fulfilling your life so it's best to stop your crazy schedule and give yourself some breathing room."}, {"response": 969, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 24, 2000 (19:51)", "body": "where's the party?"}, {"response": 970, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 24, 2000 (22:10)", "body": "um ...the one for me? In Drool, of course! I guess... but not yet unfortuantely but soon...ASAP!!!"}, {"response": 971, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 24, 2000 (22:28)", "body": "October 25, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You knew that old appliance was going to break down sooner or later. Sure you don't want to part company with it but it's going to be more trouble than it's worth. Bite the bullet and make that major purchase -- you don't need the headaches. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're feeling a bit absent minded today but be careful. An important document could get lost today so make sure to back up or copy whatever you have. Take extra care with work -- make sure to check for mistakes more than once. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Is your watch working? Better make sure -- there is an important meeting you don't want to be late for. A Leo is running the show so get to your appointment early. A good impression will take you a long way. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Don't try to run away from your problems because they will find you. You need to confront an Aries head-on so do it and get it off your plate. It's going to be an unpleasant confrontation but at least you'll get your point across."}, {"response": 972, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 24, 2000 (23:20)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, October 25, 2000 Shawn Green: He was a Scorpio outfielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers. He is 200 pounds, 6 feet 4, and is big and handsome. He bats and throws left-handed. He is one of the best hitters on the team and is destined to one day make the Baseball Hall of Fame. As a Scorpio, he plays to win and is liked by teammates, management and fans alike. Shawn Green: future Hall of Famer. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Basic issues of your life will come to light. Spotlight on home, family, financial security. Marriage prospects good. You reach decision in that area. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Work methods subject to change -- very good for you. Highlight diversity, versatility, intellectual curiosity. Find out things. Put an end to guessing. Gemini involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Check Taurus message. Make corrections regarding measurements. Review, rewrite, make this your make-over day. You can make people laugh even through their grief. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Excellent for teaching, sharing knowledge. Flirtation could get out of hand. Know when to say, ``Enough.'' New equipment requires testing. Building material featured. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Utilize knowledge of color coordination, design. Focus also on voice, rhythm, music. Family member confides, ``I love you more than ever.'' Consider yourself very lucky. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Look behind scenes. Substitute meditation for brooding. Deception present: Protect self in emotional clinches. Pisces, another Virgo play featured roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Cycle high. Take initiative in making contacts. People are drawn to you for instructions, directions. Capricorn, Cancer individuals will play memorable roles. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Look beyond the immediate. Take cold plunge into future. Reunion features romance, drama, grandiose promises. You will know what to believe. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Some of your major hopes, wishes could become realities. In matters of speculation, stick with number 1. Make fresh start. Don't follow others. Let them follow you. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Focus on partnership, cooperative efforts, city hall politics. Marital status also figures prominently. Seafood dinner proves enjoyable. Cancer cooks. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Individual close to you talks about possible computer error. Relationship heats up -- could get too hot. Maintain emotional equilibrium. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Partnership, marriage plans subject to change. Be aware of details. Check measurements. Be near water if possible. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play fascinating roles. IF OCTOBER 25 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are considered by some to be a mysterious figure. You are sensitive to degree of being psychic. You are not afraid of being alone because you realize you can be lonely in a crowd. Pisces, Virgo persons play leading roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: G, P, Y. Social life accelerates in November. You get things accomplished in December."}, {"response": 973, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 25, 2000 (16:33)", "body": "October 25, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): Use teamwork to bring innovations into play. Having perceived the stereotypes and conventions, carve out a niche by doing the opposite. The status quo has created a discontented minority you can appeal to. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You feel a strong sense of responsi- ility now, or may have it thrust upon you. You have to hide your feelings in order to make yourself look strong. This may be a chance to make needed beneficial changes. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your attraction to counter-cultural ideas gets a boost today. You disenchantment with social con- ditions makes you seek ideas and venues, maybe even a religion, which offers a relatively radical alternative. CANCER (June 21-July 22): The pressure to live up to expec- tations can inhibit your ability to express yourself well. You deal with the inability to rebel or confront through indirect protest, such as humor, sarcasm or humorous writing. LEO (July 23-August 22): You're receptive to new ideas today. Appreciation of the unusual is revived, despite the possi- bility that it may be more extreme than you want. Personal limitations are being challenged and are crumbling. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): A strong sense of inadequacy should motivate you to study harder to make the grade. Don't become fearful and give up; it's too soon for that. Shame of failure should make you try again better. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): Your romantic life is in flux, but today can bring someone new into your life. Your ability to train your raw talent is buffeted by distractions. You have many facets of yourself to explore today. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): Your emphasis on rationality is hiding your feelings today. You're out of touch with your emotions, and as long as you're not noting or integrating them, you're setting yourself up for an outburst. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): Power plays are going on around you. You may have to control information in order to turn events in your favor. You have to trust someone to be your friend in need, despite an aversion to this. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): Personal anxieties threaten to spill over into your professional effectiveness. You must compartmentalize the issues to deal with them when and where appropriate. Don't just ignore them all the time. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Your interest in politics inclines toward creating change. You take a step toward greater involvement today. You're open to imaginative leaps and intuitions in your personal philosophy. PISCES (February 19-March 20): You feel you're in a tug-of-war between high aspirations and personal gratification. You have trouble reconciling mental and spiritual aspects with subcon- scious material and automatic behavior."}, {"response": 974, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 25, 2000 (22:24)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, October 26, 2000 Vincent Price: He was a native of St. Louis who became an actor, an art aficionado, an expert in food and cooking. He was Vincent Price. He was likable, a friend of astrology. He was a special Gemini who starred in such films as ``Fall of the House of Usher,'' ``Laura'' and ``Edward Scissorhands.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): What begins in a negative sense will boomerang in your favor. Focus on humor, versatility, use of intelligence. Sagittarian plays outstanding role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Dig deep for information. Toss aside previous beliefs. What seemed impossible will become probable. Tear down in order to rebuild. Scorpio is in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Don't attempt to do too much at once. What begins as an easy flirtation could become serious, complicated. Know when to say, ``Enough.'' Virgo involved. CANCER (June 21-July): Attention revolves around your personal rhythm. Focus on home, family, possible change of residence. Marital status could dominate scenario. Libra represented. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Slow down. Play waiting game. Second offer will exceed first: If you wait, you win. Define terms. Avoid self-deception. You might be thinking, ``This is deja vu.'' VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Financial plans succeed. Know it; act as if aware of it. Exude confidence. Don't go hat in hand for appointment with big-wig. Cancer native figures in scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You could be on precipice of the kind of recognition that brings fame, fortune. Think on international scale. Let go of previous misconceptions. Aries involved. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Show a different side of yourself. Wear bright colors. Highlight independence of thought, action. Give and receive love. Don't ask too many questions. Leo featured. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Fix things around the house. Give special attention to Cancer native who of late feels neglected. Decide on steps, direction, meditation. Number 2. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Experiment, investigate, report. Many will express surprise thinking you could not concentrate on one subject. Focus on cheer, celebration. Fun and games. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Rebuild structure. Be sure measurements are correct, revise, review, check standards. Taurus, Scorpio persons play roles. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Be ready for change, variety of sensations. Members of opposite sex confides, ``I can hardly keep my hands off you.'' Maintain equilibrium. Laugh at your own foibles. IF OCTOBER 26 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: When pressure is on you are up to it. You are passionate, creative, dedicated. People wonder how you can maintain pace. Capricorn-, Cancer-born individuals play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. During November you will tear down for the purpose of rebuilding. December will be one of your most enjoyable months. Possible engagement in picture."}, {"response": 975, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 25, 2000 (22:26)", "body": "Oh, Wolfie! Read that last one? Need to talk to you when The Man lets you up for air..."}, {"response": 976, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (20:08)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, October 27, 2000 Lest We Forget: He was a Scorpio, the first president to ride in an automobile, to submerge in a submarine and to fly in an airplane. He admonished, ``Talk softly and carry a big stick.'' Theodore Roosevelt was the 26th president. He loved sports, especially boxing. He said the first requisite of a good citizen is that he pull his weight. Theodore Roosevelt's dying words were, ``Put out the light.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): New Moon in your Eighth House indicates that you win by digging deep, including into the occult. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons will figure in scenario. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Excellent for reading, writing, teaching and falling in love. Gemini, Sagittarius persons will play leading roles. Short trip involves search for missing valuable. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Attention revolves around too much of a good thing. Taurus, Libra persons play major roles. Catch up on what you missed. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Define terms. Get promises in writing. Much of what you perceive is in future. Avoid self-deception. Pisces, Virgo, play roles -- could have these letters in names: G, P, Y. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Power play. You'll have more responsibility. Promotion is long overdue. Romantic relationship is hot and heavy. Land, real estate transaction could dominate scenario. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Look beyond the immediate. Remind yourself that what goes around comes around. Participate in humanitarian-political project. Confer with one in distant land. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Take seriously what at first appeared to be a joke. Lost article is located. Set your own pace. Do not abandon principles. Leo, Aquarius persons play fantastic roles. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): New Moon in your sign. High cycle. Take initiative in making contacts. Focus on marital status, direction, motivation. What appears lost will be found. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Take note of your dream. Social gathering successful if you take charge. Look behind scenes. What was hidden will be revealed to your advantage. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Challenge exists. You can handle it. Revise, review, rewrite. Tear down in order to rebuild. You will feel better as result. Scorpio will play dramatic role. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Open lines of communication. Relative wants to tell you something: It is important. Flirtation is more serious than originality anticipated. Virgo represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Focus on luxury, beauty, flowers, domestic adjustment. You will be in touch with Libran who has your best interest at heart. Living quarters will suit you. IF OCTOBER 27 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have ability to accurately forecast future. You are a natural humanitarian, will fight when cause is right. Your life is filled with dramatic separations and reunions. Aries, Libra persons play top roles -- will have these letters, initials in names: I and R. During November, be ready for change, travel, variety of experiences. December most romantic for you."}, {"response": 977, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (23:18)", "body": "October 27, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You have the power to sway mens minds today so use it wisely as you will be tempted to impose your will and your ideas on someone much weaker than you are; don't take undue advantage. Polish off that correspondence that you have let accumulate, while you have the time. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Proper ethical dealings in the financial arena wins you some justly earned rewards. Be selective today in what you choose to purchase as the price may be inflated and you could be cheated. Your love shows you an unexpected side to the person- ality today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You are particularly charismatic today and everyone is drawn to you. You will win over your love to your way of thinking that he/she has resisted in the past. Children will also respond positively to your suggestions; at work the boss likes your idea so much it becomes part of the job description. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you get out that golden shovel and you dig for the neces- sary information that you want to start your business. This can be an emotional afternoon for you as you are reunited to some old friends that you have not seen for a very long time. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Trust your instincts today as you are asked to evaluate a per- son or a project or both. You have some good insights to a problem that you and a loved one may be having and you use these to compromise and restore the peace. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may run into a little trouble at work today and it falls to you to be the peace maker and you are careful not to play favorites as that could cause a lot of hard feelings. Your loved one needs to know how much you care as you have a ten- dency to bury yourself in work and snap at those around you. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you could be able to pick and choose your companions as your charm is just oozing out of your every word. Be sure you pick the right one; a pretty face may not stand up to the test of time and constancy needed in a mate. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) We are not all created equally no matter what you may have heard to the contrary so try not to judge a person to harsh- ly today when he or she does not come up to the high intel- lectual standards that you have set; this person is working up to capacity. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You have done all the hard work and racked your brain for the ideas and now that it is paying off another steps up and wants a piece of the pie; tell that person to forget it, you will be better off without an added millstone around your neck. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) May december arrangements are seldom seen to last. If you two are truly in love then go for it, but one or the other will live to regret it a few short years. The investments that are the weakest are the ones that you decide to rid yourself of, talk it over with the broker. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Planning your weekend travel will take a lot of time today as you must cope with car repairs and maintenance. The family needs a trip such as this so try not to have to put it off. Keeping your mind on the job today would be the safest thing for now. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your creative ideas are now beginning to pay off in a steady manner which promises to last for a long time. You are slated to meet some interesting people today which you may find shar- ing your life for some time to come. A true love lets you in on a secret."}, {"response": 978, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (23:25)", "body": "Yo, Wolfie! Time to Howl!!! Trade war stroeis at the end of the day!"}, {"response": 979, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (23:26)", "body": "EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Stop putting off changes that need to be made in your personal life. As large as you think it is, it's really not going to break the bank. Once you take care of this issue, you'll feel much freer to move forward. Let it go. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Take a deep breath today and start anew. A project needs to be scraped because the idea has changed. But don't worry -- this one will be a lot easier to put together. Don't get frustrated -- angels are helping you work your magic. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra An old friendship is coming to an end. This isn't worth salvaging because this person hasn't been your friend in a long time. Cut your losses and move on to other friendships. This person will only cause you heartache in the long run. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You have no obligation to anyone but yourself. You might feel guilty about not doing an errand for a friend but you don't have the time -- and they know that. Let your Capricorn friend find their way. They can do it on their own."}, {"response": 980, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct 27, 2000 (17:42)", "body": "well, the boss man has cut me loose and i actually get to have sat/sun/mon off. virgo is *woohoo* and i doubt that my immediate boss will implement anything i have to say as i'll probably be fired in the near future after what went down this week. the old friend (read older friend, not in length, in age) has been relieved of her status as she betrayed me (NOT YOU MARCIA, I LOVE YOU SWEETIE). when i get a chance to talk, you will get an earful my dear. i only hope my dear twin is having a much better october than i am (do you remember our october predictions?)"}, {"response": 981, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 27, 2000 (19:12)", "body": "Oh yes...I am sans fiancee today and know not why... I am onlne for you if you log back in...ready to listen to you!!! *Big HUGS*"}, {"response": 982, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 27, 2000 (19:18)", "body": "(well, yeah, I do know why....he has the flu and is probably feeling half alive again and trying to do too much... or cannot get online or his phoneis out or... or...or... waaaaaaaaa!!!"}, {"response": 983, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 27, 2000 (23:44)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, October 28, 2000 Regis Philbin: He is a personable Virgo. He rides the crest of popularity, has earned his way to the top of television. He is a Notre Dame graduate, has shown friendship and respect for astrology. Regis Philibin is the opposite of bombastic. He is efficient, dynamic, dramatic and has withstood failure and heartbreak to achieve stardom. He is far from finished: Within two years he will be even more famous. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Do things your way despite people who sincerely object. These persons could be sincerely misinformed. Gemini represented. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Emphasis on living quarters, remodeling, decorating, important domestic adjustment. Focus on color coordination, giving and receiving love. Libra involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): See people, relationships in realistic light. Don't permit haze of romance to obscure reason. Pisces, Virgo persons will play dynamic roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Creative juices stir. Emphasis on promotion, production, distribution. Capricorn, another Cancer figure prominently. Older individual will prove loyalty. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Finish what you start. Take chance on romance. You gain added recognition, even overseas. Weigh words carefully. Aries, Libra individuals edge way into scenario. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Toss aside preconceived notions. Stress independence, original thinking. Don't follow others. Imprint style. Leo and Aquarius natives will play major roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You discover that you are not alone. Focus on marital status, direction and motivation. Check plumbing. Cancer native makes pledge of loyalty. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Cycle high. You will be at right place at unique moment. Make appointment to consult with superior. Judgment, intuition are on target. Sagittarian involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Fight your way through a mountain of bureaucracy. Be careful what you sign: Thorough approach necessary. Travel opportunity does exist. Scorpio involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Assignment changes. This ultimately proves to your advantage. Flirtation could lead to something serious. Gemini, Virgo persons figure in scenario. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Family member consults you on financial matter. Be receptive, not naive. Domestic adjustment featured, especially if married. Taurus, Libra play top roles. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Don't tell all. Maintain aura of mystery. Deception is in the air. Protect self at close quarters. People tend to fall in love with you. Be aware of cost. IF OCTOBER 28 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an original thinker, dedicated and passionate. You seem always willing to take chance on romance. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. During November, important changes occur on home front -- might be change of residence, marital status. During December, aura of mystery prevails. Secret is revealed: You might be stunned."}, {"response": 984, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 28, 2000 (09:44)", "body": "they had to mention virgo again, didn't they?"}, {"response": 985, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 29, 2000 (22:21)", "body": "You won't like this one, either - I hate it! October 30, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It's time to wrap up that project. Procrastinating is going to get you nowhere. Put down the remote and tackle what you need to do. No one is going to finish the job for you -- no matter how much you plead to them. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius As much as you don't want to listen to your instinct, you know it's right. A good friend has let you down and your angels know it's hurtful. Don't worry -- this will all blow over. Make sure to give you and your friend some breathing room so you can heal. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're not seeing what's right in front of you. You know the answers to your own questions but you seem to think someone else is an \"expert.\" There's not much else the angels can do to show you the way if you're not going to listen. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today is an especially emotional day for you. Don't get too bogged down by your feelings -- they are going to pass. You are a talented and smart person -- don't let a single situation make you doubt your strength."}, {"response": 986, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 29, 2000 (22:30)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You are surrounded today by an atmosphere of ease and security. That is how the world perceives you even if you know a whole different truth. This appearance will allow you to take advan- tage of some breaks that are likely to come your way today... those that have, gets. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Go for the best deals you can get today, drive some hard bar- gains as money is tight and wasting it is not what you are about. This would be a good day to call in the carpet cleaners and let them do their thing to help you get ready for the holidays. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You are filled with energy this morning and you have the work zinging along in no time. Forgive someone today and make a loyal friend for life. Your loved one is ready to go forward with the relationship and start building for the future and the children you planned to have. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Security is your main concern today as poor planning in the past has now come to bear fruit. Learn from your mistakes, as you jump this hurdle make a vow to be more far sighted in the future. Finding a new home is never easy but persever- ance will win out. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone you have been trying to pin down to a yes or no answer tells you what he/she really wants out of life. In this case you might be better off looking for a new love to share your dreams of home and family with. A small accident at work starts you to think. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Exploration of old caves, ghost towns or just antique shops is the thing that will make you happiest today as you are adven- ture bound no matter which one you choose to do. Haunting memo- ries of a past life may be revealed to you in something you run across today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You are in need of some emotional support and some spiritual healing which you find in the loving expressions of friends and family as you meet and conquer the adversities of life which at this time may seem overwhelming, but they are not. Let your heart reach out for love. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Going on a short trip today to please a loved one is a lucky thing for you to do as you are likely to meet someone who has been waiting for someone with your ideas to come along. Don't hesitate to accept a good offer today, it could make your future. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) This could be a very tense day for you as it starts wrong with a domestic spat before you leave home and goes from there. Try not to lose your cool in the work place as this would not help your standing with the firm. The spat is not likely to amount to more than a disturbing influence in the day. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your interests may have nothing to do with the way you earn your living today so try to keep your mind on the job and don't go daydreaming about other things. Your home based business should see an increase in business shortly and then there will be light at the end of your tunnel. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Someone in your life today will be obstinate and just a tad bull headed so don't even bother to argue over something you wish to do. If it is sensible and not expensive go ahead and do it then hit him/her with the feat accomplished. Works most of the time; then there is always a compromise that can be made. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Stand your ground today over issues that you firmly believe in and you will see the other side giving way to you. Your patience will be the one thing that most people can't fight against so use it to your advantage. Family and friends stand beside you on this."}, {"response": 987, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 29, 2000 (22:32)", "body": "The above one is much better...but...children??!! That is surely meant for you. I pass on this option. *grin* However, it was discussed..."}, {"response": 988, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 30, 2000 (11:08)", "body": "no unless they're stepkids or something! *grin*"}, {"response": 989, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (07:12)", "body": "No spat! Things are going fine."}, {"response": 990, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (17:37)", "body": "Great to hear! Never thought about stepkids...! Astrological overview for November: Mercury rights himself, but he does get down to the very last degree of Libra before this happens. Hang on tight, it's the usual mayhem from that corner of the sky. Mars shifts from Virgo to Libra, and Venus swings out of carefree Sagittarius into more serious Capricorn. Sagittarius begins in the later part of the month, too, and that is always a time for celebration -- we always believe that Sagittarius is the ultimate good times sign around here. Curious about your own chart, sample a free reading at the web site, or order up something, charted fresh from your own birth data. Aries : You have one those little tension headaches building this month. It's like there's something there, but you can't quite place a finger on the point that hurts. Mars, maybe Venus, or even the Sun is the cause of this pain. In fact, at one point this month, you're going to be pretty sure that all of the planets are lined up in some sort of grand, unified \"thang\" to make you miserable. It's not really a case of being miserable, though, because the closer you get to the end of the month, the better it gets. You do have some stuff which needs to be addressed, though, and this looks, for all the world, like romance stuff. Except for one fisherman who likes to kiss his catch, I'm not sure that a proper fishing allegory would really work here. And that guy, as near as I can tell, only kisses his catch when the camera is rolling. It's not like he does it all the time. In the same realm of ideas, you've got something going on in the romance department, and it needs your attention. However, unlike that that one \"fishing star\" you don't need to kiss your catch when the camera is rolling. In fact, I would strive for just the opposite. Watch out for that telltale blinking red light, and make sure that you know what you're doing before you kiss what you catch. This is brought to you as a friendly service announcement from the love planets. Taurus : Little disruptions rule this month. Not big ones, mind you, although, every little problem is nothing more than a major disaster looking for a way to get out of its small problem box. The trick with handling a month like this is to take it all in stride. Every last one of those Mercury Retrograde warnings will come through. The point to astrology is being forewarned about all this. So that's several warning notices that you've received at this point, deal with it. There are no big, major honking problems this month. There are tons of little misfires. This month is like working on an old truck, much like the one sitting outside my trailer. Replace one part with new pieces, and then another part breaks. This can be heartbreaking work, or it can be a constant state of renewal. Point of view and perspective is important. On this truck, it's the electrical, the cooling system, and the carburetor this month. The in and out stuff. More like the \"in\" stuff because it got a new muffler last month. There really shouldn't be anything that would strand you by the side of the road this month, but you will spend a little bit more time than usual going back tightening up nuts and bolts that you figured were secure. However, the best choice of material for this month might really be duck tape, Nothing holds all this little stuff together than a couple of turns of duct tape. Gemini : There are two influences I would like to look at. (Gemini, Twins, \"double your pleasure,\" and so forth). Jupiter is retrograde in your sign, and that usually indicates a \"slow down\" effect on some of your business dealings. Likewise, Mercury is also retrograde and he's also going to have a mischievous effect on your business communications. In some branches if astrology, this would look like a romantic entanglement. Here at the office, though, I'm pretty sure this is business. It's not a big problem, but it is a time when you would certainly benefit from taking a long, hard look at your projections for the month, and making some of those necessary \"adjustments\" to the projected income and the amount of time necessary to reach the stated goals. Things are going to take longer than you plan -- and it's not really your Gemini fault, but other folks are going to have a tough time understanding why you're in such a big hurry (and apparently getting no where). Of course, in the normal, not accelerated Gemini time, the little planet moves around, and once it gets itself right, there will be a small improvement. By the time Mercury changes directions, around the middle of the month, you're going to notice that there's a gentle upswing in some events which will lead you to think that the holidays are going to be okay. They will. Just don't forget to adjust some of your Gemini market projections towards a more realistic level. Cancer : Once again, we're off on a giant roller coaster ride. Maybe we're off on the \"Tilt - a - Whirl\" or even the \"Spinning Tea Cups."}, {"response": 991, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (17:45)", "body": "Oh Wolfie...two rotten months ?! His is not much better than mine, either."}, {"response": 992, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (17:55)", "body": "no, this month will be better, things just won't move fast enough for us twins!"}, {"response": 993, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (18:11)", "body": "Does anything ever move fast enough for us (with the exception of when we are lost in exquisite feelings...*sigh*)?! Yeah, I think despite October's gloomy prognostications, it was momentous for both of us...*hugs*"}, {"response": 994, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (21:05)", "body": "good things come out of the bad! (whew, october was rough)"}, {"response": 995, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (21:31)", "body": "I am happier than I can say that we emerged from October intact. Interesting stuff today Wolfie. Meetcha back of the barn to talk..."}, {"response": 996, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (23:44)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, November 1, 2000 Sir Alec Guinness: He was an Aries, a superb actor who was not only an artistic success but also meant dollars at the box office. He portrayed many characters and did so for a number of years. His death was regarded as a serious loss to his multitude of fans. He was ``The Man In The White Suit'' and he had a major part in ``The Lavender Hill Mob.'' His later fans remember him as Obi-Wan Kenobi in ``Star Wars.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): You receive honors. Focus on promotion, direction and spiritual gain through meditation. Domestic adjustment takes place -- could include marital status. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Wait and see. Time is on your side. Someone wants to deceive you. Protect self in emotional clinches. Pisces, Virgo persons will play memorable roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Accounting procedures require review. Focus on added responsibility, more pressure. You will be up to it. Relationship intensifies. Capricorn in picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Look beyond the immediate. Be available to one who helped you in the past. Travel plans need coordination, more information. Aries will play dominate role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Don't follow others. Stress original thinking. Work gets done almost effortlessly. Aquarius and another Leo will be featured. Imprint style. Maintain creative control. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Focus on possibility of partnership, change of marital status. Overcome tendency to brood. Meditation is required to obtain answers from within. Capricorn represented. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Emphasize humor, versatility, intellectual curiosity. Participate in social-political group. Excellent time for obtaining new or different wardrobe. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Revise, review, rewrite, tear down in order to rebuild. Obtain hint from Libra message. You will overcome maze of red tape. Taurus plays romantic role. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Read, share knowledge, write impressions. You could be attending engagement party. Gemini, Virgo, another Sagittarius play top roles. Stick with number 5. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan 19): Circumstances turn in your favor. Insist on quality. You could find exactly the right place to live. Gift received is genuine token of affection. Respond accordingly. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Look behind scenes, maintain aura of mystery. Be in touch with individual temporarily confined to home, hospital. Stay out of crowds. Drive with extra care. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Some people will comment, ``I knew you really had it in you.'' Focus on power, authority, promotion, distribution. Cancer, Capricorn individuals will become valuable allies. IF NOVEMBER 1 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are creative, an original thinker, passionate. You also are gifted with ability to perceive future potential. When you speak, you speak from the heart. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. Keep some things secret and sacred. December could be your most romantic, profitable month of 2000."}, {"response": 997, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 31, 2000 (23:50)", "body": "Ok, who do I know who is a Capricorn... Wolfie? Is this one for you?"}, {"response": 998, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (08:40)", "body": "Stick with number 5, ok!"}, {"response": 999, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (11:57)", "body": "Have no idea what that meant when I posted it. Perhaps it means Sagittarians are into \"group activities?!\" Wow, I must live a sheltered life...!"}, {"response": 1000, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (12:35)", "body": "I haven't been invited to an engagement party, but then the day's still young."}, {"response": 1001, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (13:52)", "body": "If its mine, it'll be a little while... Patience is a virtue at this point of delicate negotiations. Will let you know as soon as I know... Otherwise... neither did I..."}, {"response": 1002, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (15:27)", "body": "November 1, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Things are going great for you and a loved one so make sure you don't say something to rock the boat. Sometimes your jokes can be insensitive so make sure to think before you speak today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Comfort is not found is Rocky Road ice cream. While you might not be feeling yourself, don't put a Band-Aid on a gushing wound. You need some quiet time to sort out your feelings so don't be hard on yourself for wanting to be alone today. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You hate to be the bearer of bad news but you have to let a friend know about a sad situation. Ask Archangel Gabriel to give you the right words. Your friend will be grateful you were the one to be there to hold their hand. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Dreaming might not be a bad idea. You'll get some clarity on which way to go in regard to a very confusing situation. Let your mind wander today. Jot down any ideas you get -- no matter how farfetched."}, {"response": 1003, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (15:28)", "body": "November 1, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) If you stand behind your beliefs, stick to your guns, you will likely be recognized today. This may be a good time to make that decision and take the new job offer. It will turn out much better then you hope! TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Try not to let work and home life intersect today if at all possible. Take swift decisive action when it comes to dealing with co-workers or colleagues. A close friend is about to take a big step in their love life, give them support. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Be careful about spending too much money today, overspending will come quite easily if you do not use self control. Also be cautious of giving too much to others as well. A good day to sit down and and ponder life. Good spiritual insight can come from some solitude. CANCER (June 22-July 22) The problems with your domestic affairs are escalating and are in danger of spiraling out of control. Someone very close to you, someone you trust is concealing something important from you. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Someone has started a rumor recently that you are not per- forming up to par at work. You know this is not true, but the rumor starter is credible. You must work extra hard to dispel this negative energy by working hard and beating your own drum a little. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you become more interested in the music genre that you once thought was very bad. This is a good day to broaden your horizons even further. Look into new and different hobbies and projects that you may not have tried before. You will be pleasantly surprised! LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You are feeling quite a bit on anxiety about the living arrange- ments you are currently in. It is important that you cure this problem and dispel the anxiety. someone close to you has an answer to this problem. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Guard close your achievements today, especially as it pertains to your employment. Someone is going to try to steal the credit for one of your most important accomplishments. The culprit is likely to be a friend. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) This is a day where it seems nobody is on time or keeps their appointments! Don't let everyone's tardiness get you down. If you take up the slack of those who are late or fail to follow through, your superiors will notice. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A very emotional day for you. Do a self evaluation of your feelings toward your mate. If you truly love them, try show- ing it a little better then you have been lately. Your affec- tion will be returned to you in a big way. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may be inclined to break a diet or give in to some sort of physical temptation today. Try your best to stick to your guns, you will find a hidden reward for doing so! Don't let life get you down, keep your eyes on the future. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today is a good day to avoid any sort of new partnerships or joint ventures. I am not saying your current ones are bad, it's just that you need to wait at least a day before final- izing anything."}, {"response": 1004, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (15:29)", "body": "Boring day compared with yesterday. Why does everyone want to talk at the same time...then, not at all?!"}, {"response": 1005, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (17:06)", "body": "dunno. no capricorns in my life that i know of. virgo is the one i'm concerned with. i hope i don't have to tell anyone any bad news, geez!"}, {"response": 1006, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (17:38)", "body": "Hmmm... One I know is NOT a Capricorn but the other... Havc not talked about that yet... Better ask. Might be important in understanding this stuff. Yup, you don't want to be the bearer of bad news unless it is stupendous news about you that must be told. Eventually that is gonna happen for me..."}, {"response": 1007, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (18:23)", "body": "*hugs*"}, {"response": 1008, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (22:55)", "body": "*Hugs* Wolfie!!! o'o is gonna get the bad news... not YOU...I should have been more specific, but you knew that, huh?! *grin* November 2, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Running away from your problems are going to get you more trouble. It's time to stop hiding and confront the issue straight on. A wise Gemini is going to get you to admit the truth -- it's not your fault. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It's time to talk to your boss about your performance. You're not feeling appreciated and you need to bring your concerns to the light. You'll find there are some misunderstandings that -- once they are cleared up -- will make your job a lot easier. Ask Archangel Michael for guidance. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra This would be a good day to get rid of things you don't use anymore. This includes clothes, furniture, jewelry and old feelings and ideas. Clean out your physical, mental, and spiritual closet today. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Don't tempt fate today. Bring extra change for the parking meter or you'll definitely get a ticket. Follow the rules or you may find you'll have to pay a lot extra for something you could have paid 25 cents for!"}, {"response": 1009, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (22:57)", "body": "Oh YES!!! A wise Gemini and He is a Taurus...in fact they all are in my male \"family\" Oh my....!"}, {"response": 1010, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (22:59)", "body": "Hey, Wolfie! Throw your old diamonds this way and I'll throw mine to you! November 2, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Friends will not appreciate your involvement in their affairs even if it is as a matchmaker...best not to assume that role today. If you give credit where credit is due you can be sure you will be treated likewise. A new look at work hastens pro- motion time. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Okay, it was a good accomplishment but it is time to face the immediate future and come down from the heights it sent you to. Don't rest on your laurels today as they may not be enough to secure that well paying position that you almost have in your pocket. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A good diet and possibly a new wardrobe can do wonders for your self esteem and when you see yourself in a better light so will everyone else. Avoid making the mistake of thinking that lust on someones part means love, put it to the test. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Several job offers come your way today but look them over care- fully and if you already have a job be sure the new one will offer you more than you will give up in the way of job security. A get together with friends gives you a chance to air your views in a congenial way. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Be sure that you have more than one plan going today in case one falls through and you have to switch to plan b. You are talented and you should think of yourself as such and reassess your worth to the company...it is worth asking for that raise you need. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Others, lesser lights, may need to hear how you made it on your own so go ahead and share this with your class or in a lecture you may be giving. Off the record, you should avoid taking advantage of someone just because you can due to your power and position. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is not a good day to put off until tomorrow what you can, and need to, finish today. Procrastination can only make you one thing...a loser. A new job may look enticing but may be of short term duration no matter what you are told. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) In the area of personal communication you could be missing a few beats, take the time to listen and make your responses clear and concise to avoid misunderstandings and the, \"I thought you said...\". You and the spouse discover a new closeness. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today is blessed with the people you love visiting and including you in their plans. Be careful at work today as there is the possibility of stepping on the bosses toes as you overreach your- self in some main areas. Evening brings a quiet peace. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This would be a good day to watch out you don't let the ego get so inflated that it gets in the way of seeing someone elses excellence or worth. Team work is more important today than the abilities of one person so get that project off the ground by being a team player. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You speak the clearest when you are able to control your anger at others, this gives you a great advantage over someone who shows loss of control in front of the boss. An arraignment with a spouse for greater freedom is not to your liking as the spouse also has more freedom. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your recent career decisions are fully backed by your family and you are happy that the decision is finally reached. You will dee a good improvement in your overall financial welfare as soon as the education part of it is finished."}, {"response": 1011, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (23:00)", "body": "Do you think this one is trying to tell us something?!"}, {"response": 1012, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (20:33)", "body": "geez, i didn't know i was looking that bad! *grin*"}, {"response": 1013, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (22:10)", "body": "aha...the other one in question is another Virgo. Interesting...! Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, November 2, 2000 Playboy: He was tested psychologically and declared to be a genius. He clipped magazine features and pasted them together in the family garage. Hugh Hefner, an Aries, thus created the beginning of the Playboy empire. When established, he paid his writers more than did other publications. He expressed surprise at the accuracy of astrology in telling about his life, inner feelings. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You will be trusted with secret and told, ``Keep it to yourself.'' Lunar position emphasizes leadership roles. Pisces, Virgo persons are in scenario. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on production, power, responsibility, intensified relationship. You'll be invited to travel, perhaps to distant land. Cancer native involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Long-distance dealings may require you to travel. Focus on publicity, advertising, letting others know, ``It will be my way.'' Libra plays major role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Don't follow others. Emphasize original thinking, daring. Creative juices stir. Romance is in the air. Children, change, variety will be featured. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Questions will be asked concerning partnership, marriage. Change of employment or work methods highlighted. Watch your step upon entering new territory. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Emphasize diversity, curiosity, ability to turn events in your favor. Moon position highlights creative urge, written material. Gemini, Sagittarius in featured roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Details require your personal attention. Exact measurements are not what they should be. Taurus, Scorpio persons dominate scenario. Stick with number 4. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You missed the boat; you get proverbial second chance. Relative is sincere, but could be sincerely misinformed. Gemini involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Attention revolves around decorating, remodeling, making home beautiful. Keep resolutions concerning diet. You don't need second helpings. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Cycle remains high. Take initiative in making appointments with higher-ups. Reject first offer. Second is forthcoming and will be more suitable. Pisces involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Answers are found behind scenes. Someone attempts to take advantage, causing you to do double duty. Insist on answers, not evasions. Cancer, Capricorn figure prominently. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Project that started could be completed. People are drawn to you with their problems. Remember dictum: ``Physician heal thyself.'' Aries is in picture. IF NOVEMBER 2 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are emotional, sensitive, loyal to family, nation. Cancer, Capricorn persons play roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Through direct bargaining you could obtain best price for home furnishings. Sound, music play fascinating roles in you life. Before November is finished, you will be involved in major financial transaction."}, {"response": 1014, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (22:12)", "body": "November 3, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Maintaining a low profile today would be best for you as people persist in not seeming to understand what you are communicating to them. Beware of making broad statements of maybe or if when it has to do with doing something for someone else as they will take it as a hard and fast promise. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You have several things around home that you have left undone for a good while and this is as good a day as any to catch them up. Your spouse will be thrilled and you will see a lot of the 'nagging' stop. Plan some fun activity for the weekend. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A good deal comes along and you are quick to grab it which is a lucky break for you and your finances. Clear away some old work on your desk and you will find yourself free for the weekend so you and the family can enjoy a little fun or take a short pleasure trip. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today is not good for a face to face confrontation with a spouse or even a heart to heart talk, just bide your time until the storm has passed and then have your talk. Fin- ances could be your major bone of contention and working out a budget that both can live with could be the solution. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today is a day for decision making on what you plan to do with the rest of your life and you find yourself making some serious commitments either personal or careerwise. Don't drag your heels today when given a choice, as he who hesitates is lost. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Argumentive relatives or friends could be your cross for today so instead of hanging around soaking up all the negative vibes go out and have some fun, even if it is only to the local shopping mall. By evening they should have calmed down and peace will reign. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Contracts and agreements of all kinds are not favored today so if you need to sign something it is best to put it off until Monday and take the weekend to think it over. You may have a few weak moments today and there are always someone ready to take that advantage in the business world...even in the personal areas too. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today secrecy could prevent you from finding a solution to your pressing problem, confide in a friend and you could be pleasantly surprised at the answer you are given. keep your eyes open for a financial opportunity this weekend. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Knowing how to handle financial problems within your family unit will be in your favor today as you nip a financial argument in the bud. Get together with the ones who count and plan some fun activities for the weekend as you leave job problems where they belong...behind you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) If you let them, small problems and minor upsets could get your weekend off to a bad start and ruin all your plans for relaxing. Show the family how much you really care by taking them on a short trip to one of the major attractions in your area. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Disagreeing with your spouse over small matters will not be such an issue today as long as the major issue is agreed upon...that's just working out the details and should be looked on as sharing opinions, not arguing. Get something going for the weekend. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your search for harmony today may lead you to the conclusion that you would benefit from a change of locale and career. Be very careful that you have something to fall back on be- fore you do anything drastic. Talk your feelings over with a good friend and get some valuable input."}, {"response": 1015, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (22:17)", "body": "November 3, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today is a calm enough day to brush up on current events or a subject you'd like to learn more about. This information will come in handy later tonight at a social event. Close your door and get reading! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius As much as you hate to admit it, you were wrong about a coworker. They gave you plenty of reason to think they couldn't do their job but boy were you wrong. Be gracious -- show your gratitude for them bailing you out of a sticky situation. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra It's been a long week but at least you only have one more day to get through. Bite your tongue -- you'll be out of work for the weekend very soon. Ask a Taurus to help you by delegating the work you dread the most -- it will make the day go faster. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're going to find a diamond in the rough. While others will not see this person's potential, stick to your guns and insist they be heard. Archangel Michael will help you fight the battle of doubt -- and you'll win!"}, {"response": 1016, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Nov 3, 2000 (07:04)", "body": "Mine is past tense, well, it's roughly in the ballpark. (sag)"}, {"response": 1017, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 3, 2000 (14:37)", "body": "Mine is nebulous. Ball park? I'm still looking for one, and think I need a swift kick aft to jar me back to reality. Please, when you call Ratthing, call the precious Cancerian to check for me if all is ok. *sigh* He is still the best thing that ever happened on the earth (Geo, of course) as I know it... Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, November 3, 2000 Joseph Lieberman: This Democrat from Connecticut has been in the Senate for a number of years. He is an Orthodox Jew, the first Jewish person to be on a national election ticket. He has been chosen to run as vice president with Al Gore, who is striving to become president. Lieberman is a Pisces; Gore is an Aries. Lieberman previously attacked President Clinton for his scandalous behavior with Monica Lewinsky. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Desire fulfilled, especially in connection with business, career. Focus on pressure, promotion, production, distribution. Capricorn plays role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Look beyond the immediate. Complete assignment. Relationship could be for real. Obtain hint from Aries message. Separation from loved one is only temporary. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Take cold plunge into future. Emphasize original thinking, fresh start in different direction. Wear bright colors; exude confidence. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Attention revolves around political activities, sale or purchase of property, marital status. Individual who twisted truth will offer apology. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on competition, legal questions, marriage. Numerical cycle highlights social activity, ability to bring together persons of opposing views. Humor wins. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Check measurements. Be sure mechanical devices work as they should. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play instrumental roles. Revise, review, rebuild. You could win contest. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Spotlight on variety of sensations, written material, short trip involving relative. Flirtation starts as fun but could become very serious. Gemini represented. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Focus on domestic issues, possible change of residence, marital status. You'll be super-sensitive concerning sound. Music involved: Dance to your own tune. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Steer clear of traffic jams. Avoid trying to do too much simultaneously. Deception present. Protect self in emotional clinches. Pisces is in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Money involved. Get fair share by playing cards face up. Others will know you mean business. Cancer, another Capricorn figure prominently. Number 8. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Cycle high. You will be at right place at crucial moment. Make contacts. Arrange to consult with higher-ups. Wear shades of blue. Emphasize original thinking. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Refuse to be held back by unsubstantiated reports. Stress independence. Make fresh start. Deal gingerly with Leo. Much will occur backstage. IF NOVEMBER 3 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are fascinated by politics, have unusual sense of humor, possess intellectual curiosity. You are drawn to the arts, have artistic talent. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. During November, a burden belonging to another will be lifted. This leaves you more time for travel, creative endeavors, romance."}, {"response": 1018, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Nov 3, 2000 (17:59)", "body": "hard to wear bright colors in a battle dress uniform *grin*"}, {"response": 1019, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 3, 2000 (19:18)", "body": "*laugh* Not unless you are battling peacocks for the day."}, {"response": 1020, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 4, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "November 4, 2000 Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, November 4, 2000 Drama Critic: His reviews of plays were not sugar-coated. He was praised by many for his frankness, condemned by others, including actors, producers. He is a Gemini, his detractors dubbed him ``The Butcher of Broadway.'' He is Frank Rich, one of the most talked-about Broadway critics. Rich is the author of books, has written articles on culture and politics. ARIES (March 21-April 19): People sense that you have a good heart. Look beyond the immediate. Utilize powers of persuasion. Libra and another Aries play outstanding roles. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Take cold plunge into future. Emphasize your own style. Don't follow others. Leo, Aquarius persons figure in exciting scenario. Refuse to be taken for granted. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Emphasis on building material, marital status, decision relating to direction, motivation. If receptive, you will obtain truth. Cancer native in picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Diversify, highlight versatility, intellectual curiosity. Don't be satisfied that something happened -- ask why. Sagittarian could become valuable ally. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Unorthodox procedure leads to partnership. Focus also on legal affairs, marital status. Check details, including measurements, machines that operate. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Work methods emphasized. Relationship with co-worker could dominate. Answers found via written word. Read and teach. Members of opposite sex find you especially attractive. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Focus on music, voice. People express desire to listen to you. Domestic tranquillity will be restored. Taurus plays fascinating role. Stick with number 6. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Avoid self-deception. Individual you once loved wants to be back again. Protect self. Emotional pressure grows. Time on your side. Refuse to be rushed into decision. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Business trip could entail journey during height of traffic. Be especially careful to avoid crowds, traffic jams. Cancer, Capricorn persons dominate scenario. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Look before you leap. Know when to say, ``I've had enough.'' Love relationship could get too hot. Aries, Libra individuals play sensational roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Missed opportunity will once again be available. Don't burn bridges. There are conferences regarding calling you back. Leo plays key role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Hold back on final decision regarding where to live and with whom. Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership, marriage. Excellent dinner prepared by Cancer native. IF NOVEMBER 4 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Many regard you as stubborn, passionate. In truth you are creative, dynamic, get yourself in and out of tight spots. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. Social activities accelerate prior to end of month. You attend marriage ceremony during December."}, {"response": 1021, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 5, 2000 (13:36)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, November 5, 2000 Martin Lawrence: He is an Aries actor who has received excellent notices from critics and fans alike. He displays Aries drive, energy and ambition. He is considered an up-and-coming actor. He plays a number of roles and cannot be overlooked as a future major star. His talent is undeniable. He himself understands that the road to the top in his competitive field is filled with detour signs. Martin Lawrence insists he will not be ``detoured'' in his career. ARIES (March 21-April 19): What had been a puzzle will be solved. Opportunity exists to gain international attention. Libra and another Aries play outstanding roles. New start. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Many of your desires could be fulfilled. Focus on emotional stability, sale or purchase of property. Cancer native plays role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Highlight versatility. Display your marvelous sense of humor. Expand horizons, emotional and otherwise. Accept social invitation -- you'll make vulnerable contacts. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Overcome red tape, self-doubt. Rewrite, rebuild. Scorpio is very much in picture. Love relationship is hot and heavy. In speculation, stick with number 4. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Emphasis on gain via written word. Be ready for change of plans, itinerary. Gemini, Virgo persons figure in scenario. Flirtation will be getting serious. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention revolves around where you live and with whom. Domestic adjustment necessary -- involves Taurus and Libra. Diplomacy is your ally. Don't force. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Protect self in emotional clinches. See people, places in realistic light. Avoid self-deception. Pisces, Virgo persons play dramatic roles. Nefarious scheme in air. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You asked for more responsibility and reward -- now you get both. Make this your power-play day. Cancer, Capricorn individuals will figure prominently. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look beyond the immediate. Finish project. Fiery, temperamental Aries plays disturbing role. Discard previous notions. Look to future. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Let others follow you. Take initiative; highlight independence, original thinking. Wear bright colors. Make personal appearances. Leo figures prominently. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Focus on proposals that include career, marriage. Check list of priorities. Be positive concerning direction. Cancer, Capricorn persons play exciting roles. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Avoid scattering forces. Be versatile without becoming confused. Element of luck rides with you. Gemini, Sagittarius persons will be at your side. IF NOVEMBER 5 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You possess unique talent as writer, psychologist. Your intellectual curiosity is admirable. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play leading roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. Emphasis on winning friends and enjoying romance. Spotlight on marital status, travel. December will be social. You'll receive presents galore."}, {"response": 1022, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 5, 2000 (22:16)", "body": "November 6, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your will is strong today and you manage to force yourself to complete a major task that will get you closer to your goals; the trailblazer sometimes has to be the finisher too. Your perfect mate, Sagittarius will show up today and you almost let a sharp tongue drive him or her away. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Hurting someones ego in an argument is not conducive to a genial romantic relationship so stop just short of doing so if you want to keep your happy home happy. Knowing when to stop is the best lesson you will ever learn in this lifetime and this can pertain to everything from arguments to excesses. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Mr or Ms wishy washy could be your nickname today as you can't seem to keep your mind made up about anything at all! Make a decision and stick to it to break the uncer- tain train of habit you are falling into. A friend turns to you for help and you are quick to give it. CANCER (June 22-July 22) This is a great day for starting a self improvement plan. Schedule a daily exercise routine and check out your diet options. Self improvement in job skills are also favored, sign up for a course at your local vo-tech or college. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may be receiving some criticism today and you are big enough to roll with the punches and learn the valuable lessons that the cause of the criticism are teaching you. Put the ego aside and watch how quickly others come to your defense! VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) If you are truly looking for the truth and many of the answers then you will have to dig way below the surface... be sure that you really want to know before you get out your shovel, some things are best left to die a natural death of forgetfulness. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your intuition may cause you to challenge the truthfulness of someone who swears undying love for you; you find that you were right to do so as the truth is ugly but it is necessary...better now than after the ceremony. Friends cheer you up in the evening. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) An Aries could play an overall invigorating role in your life today and a Virgo can help get your affairs organ- ized and the enterprise up and running. With these two on your side you find it hard to lose. A love makes set- tling down noises and you like the idea. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A day of exciting things happening to you and around you as you are the hub for the holiday spirits and today the plans are flying so fast you can hardly keep track... don't worry about them they will be changed often in the next few days! CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Day to day Capricorn should wake up and get reacquainted with the things going on in his or her life. Paying more attention to the details of romance is just as important as being in love. Being in love can often fade down to a poor imitation of itself when love suffers from neglect. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Checking up on the old folks or those under medical care will be your main interest today and doing so makes you feel good. Someone who looks up to you will be watching and weighing every word today so be careful what you say around that impressionable teen. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) If you expect to get anything out of life you must first learn to give something to it. Nothing ventured nothing gained as the saying goes, and you find that to be true today when you find a new togetherness with a loved one that you thought would never be."}, {"response": 1023, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 5, 2000 (22:17)", "body": "November 6, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Stress is getting the best of you and you're feeling drained. Get out of the office for a little while to clear your head. You'll find you'll be more productive if you take a few minutes out for yourself. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're agonizing over a situation that might not be in your best interest. Ask the angels for guidance for what to do. Look for communication from them -- they will provide it to you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Take a deep breathe and dive into the huge project. Even though you weren't expecting this, it's now your responsibility. While you may feel a bit overwhelmed, keep working on small pieces and the whole will come together. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're feeling emotional today because of a misunderstanding on the job. Don't take it out on someone else. It's okay to speak your feelings about it but don't get yourself into an argument."}, {"response": 1024, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 5, 2000 (22:32)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, November 6, 2000 Nomar Garciaparra: This Leo, after only three full seasons with the Boston Red Sox, is considered an outstanding shortstop and has been compared to such greats as Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio. He creates excitement with his display of skills. His mother named him ``Nomar'' because the name is ``Ramon'' spelled backward. No matter what his name is, Boston fans are delighted that he is playing on their team. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You get your wish. Focus on proposals that include partnership, marriage. Cancer native will invite you to seafood dinner. Accept. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Accelerated social activity: Popularity zooms. You have earned joy of new wardrobe. Sagittarian helps selection. Have luck with number 3. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Don't listen to persons who live only in past. Break free from restrictions. Deal gingerly with Scorpio. What had been rejected is now enthusiastically accepted. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Excellent for reading, writing, learning through process of teaching. What begins as mild flirtation could get too hot. Virgo involved. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Dig deep for information relating to accounting procedures. Focus on home environment, chance to increase income potential. Music will play; Dance. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Lay low; play waiting game. Fast-talking salesperson may be attempting to sell you bill of goods. Maintain aura of mystery. Don't confide, confess, tell all. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): If you wait, you win. Obtain hint from Virgo message. Restraint necessary. Hold back on victory pledges. Individual from your past makes surprise appearances. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Strive for universal appeal. Toss aside preconceived notions. For you nothing will prove impossible. Aries, Libra persons are eager to win your favor. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Emphasize independence, confidence. Don't follow others. Wear bright colors that include yellow and gold. Find more effective ways of distribution. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Family relationships dominate. Don't risk personal security by making unreasonable demands. Short trip necessary. Cancer, another Capricorn play mysterious roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Take cold plunge into future. Important social event on calendar. Money recently spent will result in delightful product. Gemini featured. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You could be at tail end of ``cyclone.'' Prepare accordingly. Be positive concerning structure. You will be at right place at special moment. Taurus involved. IF NOVEMBER 6 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have unusual voice, sense of drama. You appreciate luxury and the arts. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play outstanding roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. During December, you'll deal with bureaucrats and overcome red tape. Before this year is finished, you will hear these words, ``I love you.'' Your most memorable, profitable month of 2001 will be June."}, {"response": 1025, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Nov 6, 2000 (07:54)", "body": "I'm working on a more effective way of distributing Solaris operating systems today, called JumpStart. No bright colors though, I'm wearing the usual green Columbia shirt, blue jeans and And 1 Shoes (very, very comfortable basketball warm up shoes, they're black). I'm not much in to bright colors."}, {"response": 1026, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 6, 2000 (14:08)", "body": "In Texas, I would not be either. Here, if you wear jeans and t-shirt (my usual attire)you are formally dressed. Actually, only Aloha attire (by which we tell the tourists from the locals)is about the only stuff here to wear. The rest of us mostly match the background. My bright colors today are faded blue jeans and white t-shirt."}, {"response": 1027, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Nov 7, 2000 (07:38)", "body": "Now, if I was in Hawaii, I'd wear bright colors. I was almost tempted to order a Hawaiian shirt out of catalog not too long ago."}, {"response": 1028, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 7, 2000 (14:57)", "body": "Some are very handsome, indeed. And some are absolutely ghastly. Like everything else. Men here even wear flowers in their hair... NO ONE make fun of them!!! I think you would look most handsome in an Aloha shirt...but then, I am a bit prejudiced. Um...you would not be the only Austenite with one, btw..."}, {"response": 1029, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 7, 2000 (23:28)", "body": "Novermber 8, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Have you been taking care of yourself? Probably not. No wonder why you're feeling so run down! You can't be all things to everyone. Today would be a good day to have discernment on projects or plans that are offered to you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It may seem like the world has come crashing down on you. This is only temporary. Tears are healthy so don't hold them back. A Capricorn has some soothing words for you so listen. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Great job impressing the boss today. Just don't get comfortable now. You've got some loose ends to tie up so make sure to do that. If you don't, it will come back to haunt you later. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Stop procrastinating. You have to get this situation under control. No one likes confrontation but it's time to put the problem on the table. A few misunderstanding has caused this to happen. Once you straighten it out, you'll feel a lot better."}, {"response": 1030, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Nov 8, 2000 (07:27)", "body": "Nope, a lot of guys wear Hawaiin shirts in Austin, especially around South Austin \"bubbaland\"."}, {"response": 1031, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 8, 2000 (13:30)", "body": "Oh my...exotic sportswear in Texas? Somehow I had the idea y'all dressed in Justin boots, Stetson hats and shirt whose buttons were really plear-covered snaps. Where did I go wrong?! Amyone I know, in Bubbaland? November 8, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) When introduced to a mysterious stranger today you are im- mediately interested...Don't let the hard to get act lead you astray, if the person is too hard to get they may not be worth having. Being a matchmaker today is not the recom- mended role for you as your friend won't like it. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Lucky money is in the stars for some of you today, maybe a lotto winning or a game of chance. Others will find them- selves getting a substantial raise that will keep on help- ing out. A long distance call this evening brings you some- good news. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today you will see your financial situation take an upward trend as you move forward toward your goals. Returning some- thing you borrowed will be insurance that you can borrow again when and if the need arises. Stick to an earlier decision for best results in your love life. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Find an outlet today for your creative urges even if you have no hobbies right now this would be a good time to start one. Your new home may take some getting used to but you will soon have everything arranged the way you want it and everyone, including you, can relax. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is a good day for business networking as a friend sets you up with a hot prospect for investing in your business. Play this right and you will never have to worry about finances again. This is not a good time for falling in love, take care of business today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you bring victory out of defeat as you turn a near catastrophe into a resounding win! Your finances take a skyward dive and you have never felt more elated. Evening could bring on a marital dispute; listen well, you could be in the wrong. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Planning large expenditures today is not conducive to marital bliss as the other half is adamant on saving money for the future; try to reach a compromise and make things fair for both parties. A friend gives you a lot of moral support but you have to find your own solutions. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You are smart and quick at what you do. This kind of energy is put to good use today as you bring some new accounts into the fold. A chance at a more lucrative position could be yours today. Family get togethers in the evening turns out to be very pleasant for you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Relocating to a new city or a new job could take a lot of your time today as you finalize all your plans to get the show on the road. Call ahead to make sure your living quarters are ready for you, so you will not have to spend extra money in a motel while you get everything taken care of. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You like things to remain as they are but you must learn to roll with the flow when changes come along, learn to adapt and you will always be one step ahead of the competition. If you have an on going argument with a spouse you will find the solution to this problem before evening. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Going on a temporary ego trip could cause you a lot of trouble with loved ones or with friends, try not to practice one up- man-ship and you will fare better. Be a team player and col- laborate on a project at work, giving credit where credit is due. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) The suggestions you make to day are heeded much better than you will ever know as the person you are helping looks up to you for guidance. Try to stay as far away from the boss today as you can as he/she may not be in the greatest of moods and could take it out on the closest person around."}, {"response": 1032, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 8, 2000 (13:33)", "body": "**Happy Birthday to one of God's sweetest and cutest little girls.** Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, November 8, 2000 Angelina Jolie: She is a bright young actress, the daughter of actor Jon Voight. She won the hearts of many at a recent awards dinner. Addressing her remarks to Voight, she said, ``You are a great actor but a better father.'' She is a Gemini with her Moon in Aries. She is highly intelligent, charming, talented. She will be working hard in 2001, climbing the ladder to fame and fortune. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Member of your family gets credit actually due you. Feeling of restrictions is temporary. Sweep aside red tape and preconceived notions. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Secret meeting produces beneficial results. Express greater freedom of thought, action. Flirtation more serious than originally anticipated. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Attention revolves around home, love relationship. Beautify surroundings, including residence. Scenario highlights music, flowers, romance. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Avoid moodiness; accent meditation. Define terms. Outline boundaries; avoid self-deception. Pisces, Virgo individuals play leading roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on promotion, responsibility, new ways of distribution. Personal relationship heats up -- could get too hot. Capricorn plays role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Finish what you start. Look to future rather than brooding about past. By knocking on doors of fame and fortune, they could open. Give it try. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Toss aside what had been and look to future with optimism. Don't follow others -- let them follow you. Wear bright colors, including yellow and gold. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Focus on partnership, marital status, willingness to take steps into the unknown. Cancer native stands beside you, is loyal. Home environment improves. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Accent diversity. Give full play to intellectual curiosity. Favorable lunar aspect emphasizes settlement of property dispute. You're going to win. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Focus on sale or purchase of home. Check details. Get promises in writing. Taurus plays memorable role. Review work; check measurements. Number 4. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You live up to expectations. Your reputation is grand -- you've earned it. Written word important: Get ideas on paper. Virgo will play outstanding role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): What was lost will be recovered. Financial aid appears as if a lightning bolt out of the blue. Take initiative in making appointments. Taurus, Libra persons in picture. IF NOVEMBER 8 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are intense, passionate. When things are too easy you get bored and walk away. You inspire people to do their best, to reach new heights. Cancer, Capricorn persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. During December, you could change residence, marital status. April will be your most profitable, romantic month in 2001."}, {"response": 1033, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov 8, 2000 (19:23)", "body": "whatever (horroscope) happy birthday to that little girl whose name i'll not say!!"}, {"response": 1034, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (04:43)", "body": "November 8, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) In your search for true and lasting happiness you will always fall short of the goal if you do not stop and remember that true happiness comes from giving what you have inside to others not just taking from them. You will find the rewards of such action more than you expected. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) The projects you start for personal gain today should be some- thing that you truly enjoy doing as this will be likely to become a thriving home based business and you will be dealing with it for many years to come. A spiritual test is yours today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Treating yourself to a small luxury today will make your off duty times more comfortable and you deserve that little extra. A love match for you may not be working out and you may be re- luctant to say so and hurt that persons feelings...chances are he/she feels the same as you! CANCER (June 22-July 22) Getting various things organized today will be your prime objective and take up most of you daytime hours. Evening may find your romantic affairs improving as someone who has secretly admired you for a long time confesses today and you find yourself very pleased about it. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Sleight of hand, bait and switch, and overall underhanded dealings is something you may have to cope with in your world today as your business may hit a snag due to such tactics on either your part or someone else's. You may find similar things happening in your love life also. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Having run into some snags in your personal life is leaving you at loose ends as you search for answers and solutions. Keeping a clear head and applying logic will go far toward helping you get the answers. Don't allow yourself to be caught up in the emotional turmoil of anger and frustration. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Falling into a deadly dull routine where your lover is con- cerned is an almost sure thing that you will blow the match and wind up alone. Find some things that interest both of you and plan accordingly. Put a little excitement back into the relationship. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Let your hair down and kick up your heels as you have been lonely just about long enough. Put some vim and vigor into your attitude and actions and you will see your popularity grow in leaps and bounds. Good news tonight concerning legal matters that you may have pending. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You have an outstanding capacity for love and understanding which everyone admires and this makes people from all walks of life and all signs ready to trust you with their deepest secrets. You are the type that is not about to divulge the secrets no matter how much pressure someone places you under. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You are likely to experience a career change today that lets you explore your skills in more depth and breadth than you have been allowed to do in the past. This will be a position where you will be able to put your sixth sense and creativity to work for you. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You can give the impression of being cold and indifferent at times to loved ones when you are simply mulling over a prob- lem or daydreaming. Try not to ignore the important people in your life today as they need to feel closer to you for their own peace of mind. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) An afternoon chance meeting has the possibility of becoming an indiscretion as you and this person talk over old times and walk down memory lane, be sure to cut this short before it can lead to something seriously offensive to your present love."}, {"response": 1035, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (04:45)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, November 9, 2000 Dick Cheney: He is running for vice president on the Republican presidential ticket. Coincidentally, he was chief of the Defense Department under President George Bush, whose son George W. Bush is seeking the presidency as Cheney's running mate. He is an oil millionaire, has a pleasing personality, predicts he and Bush will win the election. Cheney is an Aquarian. His ideas and concepts are often considered ``Uranian.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Lunar cycle high. Be ready for sudden changes, adventure. You will be at right place at crucial moment almost effortlessly. Read and write. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Don't fear the unknown. You have more strength, vitality than might be imagined. Family members support you, will prove loyal. Music plays role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Many of your hopes, desires can be fulfilled -- if you avoid self-deception. Steer clear of one who attempts to sell you a bill of goods. Pisces represented. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Focus on pressure, added responsibility, intense relationship. Moon position emphasizes promotion, production, distribution. Accept leadership role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Be willing to revise, review, tear down in order to rebuild. Focus on inspiration, spirituality, journey. Romance is more serious than anticipated. Aries featured. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Despite objections from envious people, make fresh start in new direction. Don't follow others. Emphasize original thinking, daring. You could be madly in love. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Go slow; lay low. Give special attention to legal documents. Relationship that went asunder will eventually be renewed. Aries and another Libra figure prominently. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Light touch helps gain objective. Laugh at your own foibles. Help others to see the error of their ways. Long journey could be featured. Sagittarius involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Fight way through red tape. Get rid of preconceived notions. Jealous individual sings songs of blues. Go your way. What you feared turns out to be paper tiger. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Family member makes dramatic announcement. Likely to involve travel, writing. Another family member announces broken engagement. Sagittarius involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Stick close to home. Pursue hobby that includes music. Accent on domestic adjustment, marital status. Funding will be made available. Good news. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Check priority list. Do what must be done. See people, places as they actually exist. Avoid self-deception. Virgo and another Pisces play outstanding roles. IF NOVEMBER 9 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You could be world traveler, are a natural humanitarian. You are a peacemaker but will fight when cause is right. Aries, Libra persons play fascinating roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: I and R. Before November is finished you'll make serious domestic adjustment that could include change of residence, marital status. March memorable in 2001."}, {"response": 1036, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (04:46)", "body": "November 9, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A Scorpio wants to pick your brain on a situation. Don't worry -- you're an expert. Your opinion will be respected and valued so don't be afraid to present all the facts. Your confidence will get a nice boost. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius There is always light at the end of the tunnel. However, you haven't been trying to get to the end of it. Stop standing still and get moving. It's the only way you're going to finally see the light and heal. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Laughter is the best medicine and you turn into the jokester of the office today. There have been tense situations lately and you can take some of the pressure off your coworkers. Make sure to be kind to those around you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You have a way with words so contribute at that all important meeting. You have important things to say! Don't doubt that you're an expert at this - people do respect your opinion. Ask a Leo to work with you on a side project."}, {"response": 1037, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (11:11)", "body": "Right on!"}, {"response": 1038, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (22:38)", "body": "November 10, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your good friend who just happens to be your boss gives you an assignment that makes your career take a giant leap forward. The request made by a relative today may seem inconsequential but be sure you give it top priority for your peace of mind. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your total commitment and involvement in your current job may look great to your employer but a spouse thinks it is time for an attitude and priority adjustment on your side. It would be best to listen and try to adjust yourself to include the family. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your wise investments pay off today as you see a steady increase in your income and position. A friendship blossoms into a last- ing romance with a lifetime commitment lurking in the background. A friend will contact you before nighttime with good news about a move. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Follow your basic instincts today in career and/or matters of the romantic variety. A family reunion has you all excited today as you see those family members you have lost touch with over the years. Your esp is strong today so use it well. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your level of creativity on an important project is high today and you find that you have created your way into an all new position with higher pay. Stay open minded today on certain subjects and you will begin to see the real truth of the matter. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Problems are meant to be solved and as such act as gateways to better things in life, as you spend time on this one your per- ception opens up to all new possibilities and then the sky is the limit. Family members support all your decisions today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Hiring a tutor today may be just the thing for that scholar in the family, or even yourself, to help get past some partic- ularly obscure facets of the course you are studying. If this person is of the opposite sex, there may even be an instant attraction. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A love affair may be proving to be disappointing to you at this time and it may be the right time to bow out of the relationship. There is no need to remain in an affair where no one is happy. Life is meant to be lived in joy and love and both of you have a right to keep on searching. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your will is made of iron and you are more able to control your- self than most other signs but today you could let go and fall off the deep end if you do not grab the reins of your temper and keep it under your command. A bad flare up at this time could end a marriage. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A business luncheon pays off handsomely for you as you are able to strike a deal that you have been trying for, for some time. Others may find they are homeward bound for the holidays as plans are being finalized today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You are a self motivator and today you do yourself proud as you apply this gift toward cleaning up loose ends around the home, finishing projects started long ago, and increasing productivity on the job. Your energy also energizes those around you to greater action. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) An old debt that is owed to you should be addressed today as you will never receive what is due unless you ask for it; more than once if that becomes necessary. You must show this person that you are serious and rather than lose a friend you will get that which is owed."}, {"response": 1039, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 9, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "Oh man, there are two.... November 10, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Thank goodness the weekend is here! You've worked very hard all week and it's time to unwind. However, make sure you tidy up everything you need to do before you leave the office or you'll have extra work on Monday. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You're going to find out something that has been hidden for a long time. While this may shake you up a bit, you'll see it was actually better this came out. You can now move on and change your tactics. Thank a Libra for their candor. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You have the opportunity to help a complete stranger today. You'll have to make a choice, though, should you be a few minutes late to help them out? Listen to what your heart tells you. You know your meeting will wait for you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You have to take a day trip that isn't planned but it's necessary. Make sure to have enough gas and supplies to make it a more pleasant ride. Ask a Gemini to accompany you - the time will go by faster."}, {"response": 1040, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 10, 2000 (13:29)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, November 10, 2000 Morgan Fairchild: Dallas-born Aquarian Morgan Fairchild is an actress with looks and intelligence. Her horoscope indicates that she has a sense of humor, is personable, has ability to make audiences like her. She is not new to acting but is new to many fans who are having the pleasure of seeing and hearing her for the first time. Great step upward for Morgan Fairchild in 2001. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Money worries could be over. You locate something of value. Income potential is heightened. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio individuals will play significant roles. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Lunar cycle high. You will be at right place at crucial moment almost effortlessly. Make appointments with superiors. Accent personality, color coordination. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Secret meeting held. You will benefit as result. Wear shades of blue. Tell and write your story. Focus on power, promotion, distribution. Relationship intensifies. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Look beyond the immediate. Check sources in distant cities, foreign lands. Someone wants to tell you something. Open lines of communication. Aries involved. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Accent original thinking. Be willing to take chance on romance. Make fresh start in new direction. Do not follow others. Highlight independence, pioneering spirit. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Focus on marital status, partnership, cooperative efforts. Take steps toward goal. Meditation will prove of immense aid. Cancer, Capricorn persons play outstanding roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diversify. Highlight versatility without scattering forces. Wear part of new wardrobe. You'll become accustomed to flattery. Gemini, Sagittarius are in picture. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Lay low. Play waiting game. Check legal aspects of enterprise. Questions concerning marital status will arise. Taurus and another Scorpio figure in scenario. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be ready for variety of experiences, sensations. Spotlight on reading, writing, learning through process of teaching. Keep one step ahead of class. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Focus on protection on home, property, loved ones. Be diplomatic, listen to the music and dance to your own tune. Taurus, Libra individuals play fascinating roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Look behind scenes. Someone is following you but means no harm. Avoid fooling yourself. See people, relationships as they actually exist. Pisces represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You are out of character in many ways. Emphasize forcefulness, confidence, refusal to play second fiddle. Capricorn, Cancer persons will help at last minute. IF NOVEMBER 10 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are dynamic, inquisitive, attractive, sensual, always willing to take chance on romance. You are an original thinker, daring, inventive. Leo, Aquarius persons play important roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. Current cycle emphasizes creative endeavors, travel involving relatives. Marital status also highlighted. December features money, love."}, {"response": 1041, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 10, 2000 (20:05)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, November 11, 2000 Charles Grodin: He is a Taurus who has been a talk show host, an actor and a news commentator. He will be a feature of ``60 Minutes II.'' Charles Grodin is known for his dry sense of humor. People who hear him for the first time invariably come back to hear more. In the year 2001, Grodin will embark on a different kind of program that blends news and entertainment. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Full Moon in your Money House indicates financial transaction will be completed. What appeared to be a loss will boomerang in your favor. Pisces involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Lunar cycle high. Make contacts, appointments. Emphasize personality. You will exude sex appeal. Don't break too many hearts. Capricorn in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Secret plans revealed. You play instrumental role. Focus on mystery, intrigue, sensuality. Aries, Libra persons play exciting roles. Finish what you start. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Shake off emotional lethargy. Toss aside preconceived notions. Those you followed in past will follow you. Leo, Aquarius persons figure prominently. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Green light flashes for progress in building, promotion. People who wait for you to fall down will be sorely disappointed. Accent on partnership, marriage. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Long-distance call will verify views. Financial transaction can be completed. Your point is well proven. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play entertaining roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Intricate set of details represents challenge to your ingenuity. Tear down in order to rebuild. Check measurements, solidity of material. Scorpio represented. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You could be talk of the town. You are in the news. Focus on reading and writing, telling a fantastic story. Virgo figures prominently. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Lunar position favors different kind of employment. Focus on creativity, style, romance. Spotlight on where you live, marital status. Libra represented. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Someone attempts to pull wool over your eyes. Pretend to be asleep. In actuality you are alert, sensitive to attempted deception. Pisces, Virgo play dramatic roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Focus on land, real estate, ability to judge value of enterprise. You will hear these words: ``I truly like you.'' Capricorn, Cancer natives part of dramatic scenario. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Finish what you start. Look beyond the immediate. Leo teaches you lesson in drama. People talk about you in distant land. Aries, Libra persons play instrumental roles. IF NOVEMBER 11 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are intuitive, unorthodox. You can be knocked down but never for final count. You are fascinated by mantic arts, sciences, including astrology. Leo, Aquarius persons play important roles in your life -- could have these letters, initiative in names: B, K, T. Before November is finished, changes will occur in connection with where you live, marital status."}, {"response": 1042, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 10, 2000 (20:06)", "body": "Wrong signs connected to me this time. Myst be for you, Wolfie!"}, {"response": 1043, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 11, 2000 (23:15)", "body": "---------- Researchers Find New Way to Chill Out ----------- GERMANY - The term \"chill out\" can soon become a scientific term. Researchers have found that sitting naked in a freezer can be a cure for stress. Tests in Germany showed that spending three minutes in a freezing room makes stress levels plummet. Scientists reportedly stated that the sub-zero temperatures increase the brain's serotin levels, making their freezing volunteers feel much calmer. [And all this time I thought it was called hypothermia.]"}, {"response": 1044, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Nov 12, 2000 (09:28)", "body": "(um, nope) yeah, but \"chill out\" sounds better then \"hypothermia, dude!\""}, {"response": 1045, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 12, 2000 (11:27)", "body": "Got THAT right!!! Weekends are horoscope-poor. Today I should get stuff for tomorrow. Till then we will be flying blind..."}, {"response": 1046, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 12, 2000 (23:22)", "body": "November 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your will is strong today and you manage to force yourself to complete a major task that you to get closer to your goals; the trailblazer sometimes has to be the finisher too. Your per- fect mate, Sagittarius will show up today and you almost let a sharp tongue drive him or her away. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Hurting someones ego in an argument is not conducive to a genial romantic relationship so stop just short of doing so if you want to keep your happy home happy. Knowing when to stop is the best lesson you will ever learn in this lifetime and this can pertain to everything from arguments to excesses. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Mr or Ms wishy washy could be your nickname today as you can't seem to keep your mind made up about anything at all! Make a decision and stick to it to break the uncertain train of habit you are falling into. A friend turns to you for help and you are quick to give it. CANCER (June 22-July 22) This is a great day for starting a self improvement plan. Schedule a daily exercise routine and check out your diet options. Self improvement in job skills are also favored, sign up for a course at your local vo-tech or college. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may be receiving some criticism today and you are big enough to roll with the punches and learn the valuable lessons that the cause of the criticism are teaching you. Put the ego aside and watch how quickly others come to your defense! VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) If you are truly looking for the truth and many of the answers then you will have to dig way below the surface... be sure that you really want to know before you get out your shovel, some things are best left to die a natural death of forgetfulness. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your intuition may cause you to challenge the truthfulness of someone who swears undying love for you; you find that you were right to do so as the truth is ugly but it is necessary...better now than after the ceremony. Friends cheer you up in the evening. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) An Aries could play an overall invigorating role in your life today and a Virgo can help get your affairs organized and the enterprise up and running. With these two on your side you find it hard to lose. A love makes settling down noises and you like the idea. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A day of exciting things happening to you and around you as you are the hub for the holiday spirits and today the plans are flying so fast you can hardly keep track...don't worry about them they will be changed often in the next few days! CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Day to day Capricorn should wake up and get reacquainted with the things going on in his or her life. Paying more attention to the details of romance is just as important as being in love. Being in love can often fade down to a poor imitation of itself when love suffers from neglect. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Checking up on the old folks or those under medical care will be your main interest today and doing so makes you feel good. Someone who looks up to you will be watching and weighing every word today so be careful what you say around that impressionable teen. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) If you expect to get anything out of life you must first learn to give something to it. Nothing ventured nothing gained as the saying goes, and you find that to be true today when you find a new togetherness with a loved one that you thought would never be."}, {"response": 1047, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 12, 2000 (23:23)", "body": "November 13, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn What you thought was true will reveal itself differently. You'll feel misled but don't worry -- you'll have the last laugh. Don't say or do anything you'll regret because, as time passes, you'll have the upper hand. Have you asked that Libra for their opinion? They have good advice. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius If it's too good to be true, it usually is. Make sure to do some research before you sign on for a new project. You'll find there are some fine details that you're not being told about so be careful what you do. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You seem out of sorts today and it is affecting your work. Something personal is bothering you and you can't hide it. Your coworkers are concerned about you so don't be alarmed if they ask if they can help. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're feeling extra emotional today but don't take it out on anyone else. You'll find that it is only temporary, even though you heart feels like it's taken a major wound. This too shall pass -- just give yourself time to heal."}, {"response": 1048, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 13, 2000 (13:48)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, November 12, 2000 Marciano: He never lost a professional fight in the ring. He was defeated as heavyweight boxing champion when he retired. He lost his life in a plane crash. He was no boxer, he was a slugger. Rocky Marciano, a Virgo, took some awful beatings but eventually he would win. He was tight with the dollar, he enjoyed boxing and was delighted to be the heavyweight champion. Rocky! ARIES (March 21-April 19): You will be involved in financial transaction. What had been lost will be recovered. Cycle high, you will be at right place at crucial moment. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Obtain hint from Aries message. Moon in your sign translates to high cycle. Make contacts, appointments. Communication received from one in foreign country. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Make fresh start; toss aside fears, doubts. Assignment could include institutions, theater. Leo figures prominently. CANCER (June 21-July 22): You'll be saying, ``This is my kind of day.'' Focus on home, family, increased income. Capricorn, another Cancer native will play paramount roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Check Gemini message. Popularity increases, scenario includes promotion. Expand horizons, participate in advertising-publicity campaign. Activities will have political overtones. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Favorable lunar aspect promotes travel, philosophy, theology, publishing. You won't be standing still. Taurus, Scorpio individuals figure in dramatic scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Delve where angels fear to stand to tread -- investigate the ``why'' of events. Flirtation serious, protect self in emotional clinches. Gemini will play outstanding role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You are involved in many things, could be talk of the town. Stay in touch with family; focus on where you live and with whom. Marital status dominates. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Someone tries to fool you. Go along with joke but know when to say, ``Enough.'' Accounting procedure requires review. Pisces, Virgo persons play mysterious roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Spotlight on stirring of creative juices. Don't be satisfied with status quo. Read, write, teach. Take note of dreams. Love relationship intensifies. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Look beyond the immediate. Open lines of communication. Deal settled in connection with property. Family member confides dilemma. Story unravels. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Emphasize courage of convictions. Accompany relative on short trip. Result will be profitable. Leo, Aquarius persons will play dynamic roles. Wear bright colors. IF NOVEMBER 12 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are passionate, have sense of humor and possess intellectual curiosity. You also are artistic, creative. You have tendency to scatter forces. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. Before November is finished, you will be rid of burden. During December, hot romance will liven your life."}, {"response": 1049, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 13, 2000 (14:35)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, November 13, 2000 Billy Bob: He is a Leo actor-musician who has almost a cult following. Billy Bob Thornton is married to the beautiful Angelina Jolie. She is the daughter of Jon Voight. Billy Bob has the Sun in Leo, the Moon in Aquarius. Thus, there was a Full Moon when he was born. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Task is completed; you'll receive plaudits. Focus on political-humanitarian project. Another Aries will figure prominently. Knock doors of fame, fortune. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Toss aside concepts of failure. Money will be made available in surprising manner. Make fresh start; don't follow others. Leo plays dramatic role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Cycle high; circumstances turn in your favor. Focus on tradition, family, marital status. You will be invited to seafood dinner. Bon apetit! CANCER (June 21-July 22): Highlight diversity, versatility, intelligence. Laugh at your own foibles; help others to perceive fun in their own lives. Look behind scenes for answers. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Rebuild, rewrite, try on new clothes. People will vie to wine and dine you. Romance sizzles. Taurus, Scorpio persons play inspiring roles. Have luck with number 4. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Be ready for change, variety of sensations. Long-distance journey helps achieve major goal. Published material figures prominently. Former teacher arrives. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Attention revolves around domestic adjustment that could include change of residence, marital status. Talkative Gemini leaks vital information. Be analytical. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Pull in your horns. Don't rush into romance. Hold back, story is yet to be told. Separation from loved one is temporary. Respond accordingly; play waiting game. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Obtain hint from Scorpio message. Check legal aspects of enterprise. If you wait you win. Marital status could be on shaky ground. Capricorn figures prominently. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Obtain vital information from Scorpio, Sagittarius messages. Predict future; make it come true. Focus on universal appeal. Don't be discouraged by ``little people.'' AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Answer is, ``Yes!'' Do make new start; shake off emotional lethargy. Imprint style. Don't follow others. Moon position coincides with physical attraction, romance. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Spotlight on where you live, decorating and remodeling, coming to terms with stubborn Cancer native. Focus on direction, motivation, meditation. Capricorn also in picture. IF NOVEMBER 13 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: As a thinker you were on your own at a relatively early age. You often felt estranged from family, embarked upon unorthodox career. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. Before November is finished you will start new project, could find yourself in throes of emotional confusion. December features name change."}, {"response": 1050, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov 13, 2000 (19:03)", "body": "were you invited to a sea food dinner marcia? i wasn't!"}, {"response": 1051, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 14, 2000 (00:32)", "body": "Nope... I spent it online with a gentleman of great intellect and splendid qaulities... then i turned off the computer! Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday, November 14, 2000 Shirley: She made her first hit in the play ``Oklahoma!'' Shirley Jones is an Aries, charming, independent. She is a singer-actress. Many claim she has yet to reach her potential. She is blonde and no stranger to astrology. Next year, this dynamic Aries will embark on a different kind of career. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Relative will be involved in new enterprise. Expand horizons, journey overseas is distinct possibility. Vitality makes dramatic comeback. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on payments, collections, location of lost article. Spotlight on marital status, family decision that could include purchase of home. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your kind of day. Spotlight on intellectual curiosity, entertaining and being entertained. You could participate in political campaign. Sagittarian involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): What had been rejected could now be accepted -- rewrite, review. Let others know you are alive and kicking. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons figure in scenario. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on writing, advertising, opening lines of communication. Lunar position coincides with ability to win friends and influence people. Virgo is in picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Stay close to home if possible. You will receive luxury item as gift. Could be token of love. Think it over before responding. Libra will play complicated role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Check Virgo message. See people, relationships in realistic light. Avoid self-deception, guard against emotional disaster. Pisces will play fascinating role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Don't trust others with your personal affairs. Accountant or attorney wants to know too much. Cancer, Capricorn persons insert themselves into scenario. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Go slow, lie low. Legal problem will be solved. Face music early. Partnership, marital status figure prominently. Aries, Libra individuals play unorthodox roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Let go of preconceived notions. Open mind is essential. Imprint style; don't follow others. Shed light in areas previously dark. Leo, Aquarius are in picture. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Focus on marital status, proposals that include partnership, business relationship. Keep resolutions concerning exercise, diet, nutrition. Cancer native featured. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Living quarters expand, you'll be more comfortable as result. People want to be with you, some want to wine and dine you. Gemini figures prominently. IF NOVEMBER 14 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are dynamic, inquisitive and very serious where romance is concerned. You are a natural writer, psychologist. You travel more than most. One day you could write a novel. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play memorable roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. This holiday season could be one of your happiest -- you will know your love is not unrequited. f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f * f"}, {"response": 1052, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 14, 2000 (00:35)", "body": "November 14, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Time is going to be passing very quickly today. You'll feel like you aren't making any headway with a huge pile of paperwork in front of you. Slow and steady is the motto for today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius It seems like everything is working in your favor today. The world is in harmony all around and it's having positive effects. Take advantage of this positive energy and ask for the things you want -- you'll get it! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You are inspired to write a brilliant piece of work today. Be proud of yourself! Even though you might not expect this, this piece of work is going to travel to other places so be ready for an influx of phone calls. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces There is only so much you can do for friends and this may be a time to cut the ties. Their seemingly ungrateful nature is really their defense mechanism. However, there is no reason to keep spinning your wheels -- let them go."}, {"response": 1053, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 14, 2000 (00:36)", "body": "Watch out, Terry, here comes Wolfie and me - or the other Gemini who got the seafood dinner!"}, {"response": 1054, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Nov 14, 2000 (07:38)", "body": "OK, I'm on full alert."}, {"response": 1055, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 14, 2000 (11:22)", "body": "November 14, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A medical problem may not just up and go away by itself, you should have a medical practitioner look it over, at least for your peace of mind. Your overall health will show an improve- ment if you step up on your vitamin and mineral intake; sup- plements, not more food. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) An old school chum will either be visiting you or inviting you to visit. A get together right now could be beneficial for both of you, at least you will find out what his/her suggestion is. A social event tonight makes your life a whole lot happier than it was. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A trip to the country is just what you feel it ought to be as you get to wander around the woods and see the seasons new colors in all their glory. While this is a refreshing balm for your nerves you also find it gives you the strength to eal with some personal problems. CANCER (June 22-July 22) The day is beautiful, you are all caught up at work, and you make a great decision to slip away for a few hours and just relax with the fishing pole in a quiet spot all your own. Go ahead, you earned it with all the hard work you have put in lately. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Cheating on a mate is a big deal and while you may not be guilty someone you know is and they ask a big favor of you today. This person will want you to back up a lie to the spouse about their whereabouts and you know this is wrong. When you turn him/her down you may lose a friend that is not worth keeping. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) you may have to do a little travel for your company today and you are looking forward to it just to get away from the long nights that you have had to put in lately. Be sure to check the tires before you start out as they could be a minor source of irritation to you if you don't. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Listen to another Libra today as they may have a little more information about a certain matter than you do and they are in tune with you emotionally; this makes them more able to help you get your problems settled than any of the other signs. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Taking a hard line with someone today is not the right thing to do in that particular situation as it will only drive that person from you...keep that stinger to yourself today. A pro- motion at work could be a sure thing as long as you retain a cool manner and a smiling face. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) The boss acts pretty friendly but it is not an invitation to delve into his/her affairs...this would not be appreciated even though you only do it in order to offer your help. This could be a sore spot and you don't want to be the one to make it sting. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Even though someone says you are not compatibile with your true love you should not take it to heart as there are many things that affect our compatibility such as: the different placements in the heavens, the lessons we have learned through life, and the way we are raised...go for it! AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) After quite enough time wasted on quarrels and jealous re- actions you have had it and today you lay down an ultimatum ...stop or go, nothing in between. This could serve as a wake up call to that person and cause a complete turnaround; stick to your guns. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Someone that you haven't seen for many years reaches out and touches you from the past in order to make your future secure. This person had placed you in their will many years ago and you receive news of your inheritance today. Happiness and sadness war within."}, {"response": 1056, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 14, 2000 (22:18)", "body": "November 15, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Today is a good day to get some rest - You're feeling very worn out. It's important for you to take proper care of yourself because you have a lot of projects coming up in the future. Get ready! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Have extra reinforcements ready in case something goes wrong with a presentation. Make more handouts or prepare more material than is needed. You'll be surprised who will show up to listen to you speak. A Gemini is very interested in what you have to say. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You have a slight embarrassment at work. Don't worry -- it won't be remembered for long. Apologize and slip into your office -- it would be best if you didn't try to defend your actions. Don't call more attention to something small. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You'll be a shoulder to lean on today so get ready to have Kleenex ready. A Taurus really needs your advice so take some time for them. However, don't give away more information than appropriate -- you could get yourself in trouble with someone."}, {"response": 1057, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 15, 2000 (14:27)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, November 15, 2000 Vladimir Putin: He is the Libran President of Russia. Men who were trapped in a nuclear submarine at the bottom of the ocean were found dead. Many Russians claim that Putin turned down offers from major powers to help save the men. Question now is, ``Will Putin survive?'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Attention revolves around home, family, fixing things. Plumbing is especially vulnerable, needs immediate attention. Cancer native plays major role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Activities increase in connection with relatives. Short trip necessary if legal document is to be recovered. Don't scatter forces. Take aim at ultimate goal. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Check details in connection with finances. Lost articles will be recovered but accounting procedures are loose. Scorpio will figure prominently. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Many people talk about you; you are in the news and make news. Written world important; put ideas on paper. Love relationship sizzles. Virgo is in picture. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Attention revolves around family member involved with music. Domestic adjustment necessary. Financial dilemma will be solved. Secret meeting takes place involving Libra. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Avoid self-deception. See relationships in realistic manner. Define terms, outline boundaries. Protect self in emotional clinches. Don't give up something of value for nothing. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You'll have more responsibility, some of it belonging to another. Focus also on promotion, production, distribution. Capricorn will play outstanding role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Someone wants to put the blame on you. Protect interests, let it be known you will fight if cause is right. Look beyond the immediate, plan ahead for long journey. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Let go of preconceived notions. Take cold plunge into future. Make fresh start, take chance on romance. Leo, Aquarius persons play top roles. Creative juices stir. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Lie low, play waiting game. Legal ramifications have yet to be understood. Focus also on home, marital status. Emphasis on direction, motivation, distribution. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Popularity on the rise. Some accuse you of being opportunistic. No matter what is said, don't permit opportunity to pass. Sagittarian figures prominently. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Rebuild, rewrite, show a new face. Moon position highlights change, travel, challenge, children. Imprint your own style; don't follow others. Taurus is in picture. IF NOVEMBER 15 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are creative, passionate, impulsive and show deep interest in sound, including music. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. Social activities pick up toward end of November. Details pile up in December; plan ahead for holiday. Marriage indications strong next year. Most memorable month of 2001 will be June."}, {"response": 1058, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 15, 2000 (21:03)", "body": "November 16, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Trading your car in today is a really big deal to you as you have a way of becoming attached to things no matter how old and broken down they become. Think of it as gaining a new friend. :) After all the hard work yesterday you and the spouse treat yourselves to a nice dinner out. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Catching up on book work that you have been putting back takes up most of your day today as you want to find out just where the business stands financially, and you stand personally. This will make Christmas shopping a lot easier to bear if you know you are not breaking the budget. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Carrying tales seem like innocent fun to you as they are not geared to harm anyone, but the object of these tales will be drastically unhappy with you. Best not to try to stir things up as life is volatile enough without you putting in your two cents worth. Keep your friends. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Yesterday wasn't a total loss, holiday wise, as today the boss treats you and the family to a dinner at a fine restaurant on the company credit card! Pitching in when he or she was in a pinch will not be forgotten soon. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Planning your weekend is uppermost in your mind today as you realize that the car has to be serviced and a few must do things taken care of. Before you get into a lather remember you can always delegate these things, it is not written in cement that you must cope with everything. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A tense day at work today as several people vie for the same opening. You take just the right, take it or leave it, atti- tude and throw in positive enthusiasm when approached by your superior. This pretty much guarantees you the new position. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A loved one may not be as willing to share your affections with another as you may be thinking, so if you would keep your happy home you should nip this current affair in the bud before it is found out or goes from benign to bewitch- ed. Think of the family first. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Although money is tight you still have this urge to go out and buy whatever catches your fancy. That kind of thinking will put you on the road to ruin. Even though you feel this way, you can't afford it. It will be best to get your- self a job to help tide the holidays over. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Interaction with a relative or a friend has left you with some worry and a lot of doubts as to this persons sincerity. The test of time is the only way you will know anything on this score so be careful what you say in this persons pres- ence. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Hard at work and concentrating on the job at hand may make you become shortsighted and lose touch with what is going on behind the scenes. Beware of a jealous co-worker who would like nothing better than to have your job and income. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Changing jobs may be the only answer to the unrest you feel with this company as you are able to sense when it is time to move on and become restless when you don't. Start your networking today and putting in resumes. It is very true that it's easier to find a job when you have a job... PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Getting the eye today from someone you have been trying to make an impression on just makes your day. Don't let all that enthusiasm and attraction you feel show, a bit of mys- tery never hurt anyones chances. plan some fun things for the weekend."}, {"response": 1059, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 16, 2000 (11:14)", "body": "November 16, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Nothing is going to be on time today -- including you. For some reason, the more you try to save time, the more you're going to get behind. The angels are getnly amused at your frustration, so don't get upset. Tomorrow will be a better day. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Today would not be a good day to let yourself get out of control. Watch your temper and your words. Someone is having a bad day and they are taking it out on you. However, you can make it worse for yourself if you react. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A client sends praises to you for all you hard work. And you thought all those hours of work wouldn't pay off! You deserve a pat on the back for going above and beyond the call of duty. A Scorpio is pleased with your actions. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A rumor is circulating around you and you're privy to the inside information. Don't let on what you know because a Leo has told you the real story in confidence. The less you act like you know, the better off you'll be."}, {"response": 1060, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 17, 2000 (14:53)", "body": "November 17, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You must learn to conserve yourself so as not to have your ambition burn out just when you are getting close to your goal. This is a day for family celebrations or visiting good friends, giving thanks that you made it through another year! TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You do a lot of work early in the day but it is a pleasant kind as Thanksgiving dinner draws nigh with smells making your mouth water! This is a day of crowds and since not everyone is always going to get along you are called on in the role of peacemaker. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You will find your personality is attractive to the opposite sex today as everything you do gives off sparks of attraction. Someone you meet socially today could have a large impact on your future financial picture, so keep your eyes and ears open. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A day of fun and conviviality for most of you although some may find themselves having to put in a days work. This will go a long way in giving you a more permanent posture in your employment. Evening finds you pleasantly filled with all the trimmings and ready to put your feet up. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) While you are still weighed down with yesterdays worries you will lose your self in the good times of friends and family. In doing this you may even get the answer to your problem in a flash of inspiration. Make it an early night as Friday is a workday. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Visiting relatives and their children overrun your home today and you love every minute of it. Don't neglect to help the spouse out with the preparations for the hungry horde so that he/she can enjoy the day also. Evening finds you tired but satisfied. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You may be all thumbs and left feet around strangers but today you give up your own celebration to attend to the needs and happiness of others...only to find that you have found a great- er joy than you have ever felt on a holiday before. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your idea of a good day today is dinner at a posh restaurant with just you and your loved ones. Why not spread some joy and take along the elderly relatives also. Evening may find you giving a small cocktail party for a few select friends. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A half day at work will not spoil your Thanksgiving as you at first thought as good friends are front and center to pick you up after work and treat you to a feast! An acquain- tance that you barely knew shows a romantic interest in you and asks you out. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) An old love or friendly acquaintance of the opposite sex asks you out to dinner and since the spouse is away you are tempt- ed to go along with him/her. This is not wise as you will be seen and reported on. Best to go on to the relatives house as first intended. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) There are relatives that have not heard from you for a long time and this year you decide to celebrate by calling them one by one. Your efforts go a long way to put joy in many hearts today. Dinner with friends go well. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Pisces will get their fill of being able to prepare and cluck over people in a mother hen sort of way as she/he has a lot of friends and relatives over for turkey and the trimmings. A friend needs a friend today and you fill that role admirably well."}, {"response": 1061, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Nov 17, 2000 (15:53)", "body": "November 17, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn More work needs to be done on an old situation that you tried to get out of without tying up all the loose ends. You have to cut the ties and let it go. While this may be difficult for you, it needs to be done so you can move forward. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Did you read the news today? You'll see there are things that are pertinent to your interests. You'll have the opportunity to act on something very near and dear to your heart so be prepared to see the day get very exciting for you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra What is holding you back from doing what you really want to do? Fear isn't going to move you ahead -- it's only going to pull your further behind. Figure out the pros and cons to the situation and you'll see you're holding yourself back from progress. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces An announcement out of left field shakes you up today. Change is for the better, even though right now it seems like you're back at square one. Read between the lines to get all the information."}, {"response": 1062, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 20, 2000 (12:21)", "body": "Noveember 20, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You've finally seen past the issues. Be happy, because you can now move forward. Closure is brought to a work situation that has been dragging on for months. Be thankful that another Taurus helped it come to an end sooner rather than later. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You make a major breakthrough today. In doing this, however, someone is cleared from your life. While this might make you sad, you needed to do this. The peace and quiet you'll get from this will make you realize it was the right decision. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra There are too many cooks in the kitchen. Your ideas are being disregarded and you're feeling sad. Don't take feedback too hard. Integrate suggestions, ideas, and thoughts into a new proposal. You'll see you've learned a lot. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Today is a great day to prove that you deserve a raise. The bosses are watching how you handle a situation so make sure to be professional. This situation could be quite intense so keep your cool. A Sagittarius is looking for your help."}, {"response": 1063, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 20, 2000 (12:23)", "body": "November 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is a good time to go out shopping for some of those things that you have been denying yourself since you are now seeing the beginning of financial security. As a teacher you excel today and not necessarily in the classroom. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today you find that forgiving others comes very natural to you. Your energies are at an all time high and you breeze through the day with out even breathing hard. A Love is ready to share his/her life with you but now you are not sure that is what you really want. Decision making time. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your money is scare right now so it would be a good idea to put off any major purchases until the near future and you again are flush with financial success. This is a good time to plan for the weekend just don't be shocked if everyone doesn't like what you come up with. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Feeling all warm and fuzzy today? This is the day when your appetites for close attachments are met in someone that you care deeply for. Work should progress quite well with a raise in your pocket before quitting time. Plan some activi- ties for the family and you will build some great memories. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today you finally make up your mind about a love interest and you decide that, after all, it is time to settle down...guess what? Your love thinks so too. A libra pitches in today to help you out of a tight spot at work. Don't forget to return the favor. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Exploring the occult may be what is drawing your attention but since you can't make money on it you find it pretty useless stuff. Get the boat out and have a cleaning party so it will be ready for the weekend of having fun for you and the family or friends. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Today you are offered a job that may deal with writing various kind of computer help books. This is just up your alley so it would be best to jump at the opportunity. A party in the even- ing may find someone that you admire making a fool of them- selves; take that person home before something happens. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A little spiritual healing for you is in order today and you get this from the response of friends and loved ones who ral- ly round you and really do manage to cheer you up enormously. With such moral support you are soon back in control of your life and circumstances. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Got any useless things hanging in your life? This is a good day to re-evaluate everything from your loves to your hates, and if They are not doing anything productive in your life just root them out and let them go. Don't worry, the most important people to you will understand. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today pretend you have no limitations and you will magically not have any. This is a good day to see a big improvement in your finances as some of your more risky ventures begin to pay off to the relief of your spouse. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) If you do decide to make a hard and fast promise today the chances are high that you will actually follow through on them. A friend needs a helping hand in getting something inanced and you are willing to take a chance on your friend. Relax this coming weekend and rest. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You are the star performer at work today and you attract much attention from those in a position to advance your interests. Plan a celebration with friends and family tonight to honor your victory; right after thanking God."}, {"response": 1064, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 20, 2000 (22:01)", "body": "November 21, ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Depression should not be shunted aside today, it should be taken out and looked at in private so you know exactly what is going on in your emotions. You Arians are not the type to stay in a state of depression long as you simply do not give it house room for more than a day or two. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Tired of being an also ran you take control of your life and start aiming at higher goals with more intent and purpose than ever before. This will also extend into your love life as the new you quickly makes a big hit with someone. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The inner clown comes to the surface today, (or should I say the inner imp?) as you pull some practical jokes on a few friends. Be careful not to get anyone ticked off at you and this could be a fun day for you. A loved one shares your sense of fun! CANCER (June 22-July 22) A pending legal matter makes it into court today and you hold up well under the pressure. Present your case concisely and in such a manner as not to be misunderstood. In your nervous state don't walk off and forget the paper work you have spent days rounding up. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may be feeling the strong tug of home and familiar places with the Christmas season kicking in and it could be getting you down. If you can swing it go ahead and make some plans in that direction, maybe have some of those people come to visit you. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) With the Christmas season getting into full swing you will find traffic to be quite heavy, it is possible to have more than a fender bender if you do not keep a cool head when someone does something stupid, like cut you off or pull out in front of you. Be careful for the next few days. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Practice defensive and safe shopping today as you are likely to be out until after nightfall and, at this time of the year that is inviting trouble. Pick pockets, purse snatchers, muggers, etc., love to see someone like you in a dark parking lot...shop with a friend. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Spirits are high at the office today as the planning for the Christmas parties get under way. Drawing names may be a little old fashioned but this way no one gets left out and it is easier on everyones budget. You get tapped for the plan- ning committee. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A legal matter than should have been resolved long ago crops up with some more aspects to its personality. You should fare well today in all your financial dealings as you seem to be 'in the know' on most everything. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Get the nose off the grindstone today as your lover is wanting to take you shopping and you find this to be an exciting pros- pect because it is also one of your favorite things to do. Listen carefully to hints today as your loved one will use this time to show you his/her wish list. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A Pisces' vanity is driving you up the wall as you are not quite sure how to deal with this. Don't worry, your pre- occupation with the problems of other people is also driving Pisces up the wall so you are both even! A romantic dinner should make things more amenable to both of you. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A spat, or domestic dispute could become quite heated today if you let it. You wisely steer the conversation back onto the area of romance and nip the argument in the bud. Loved ones will be more willing to listen to your proposal if they feel it is for everyones good, not just your own."}, {"response": 1065, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (11:03)", "body": "November 21, EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A new idea is presented to you. It's going to be up to you whether you decide to take on the new challenge. This will be a test of whether you can let go of your emotions and go with the flow. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A new cycle at work is beginning out of chaos. Tune in to your own feelings and make sure you're in the right place for these changes. Don't be afraid to make suggestions for changes -- this is your area of expertise. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra What have you been doing with yourself lately? You look and feel younger! Enjoy situations and people from a new perspective -- especially that pesky Aquarius. Make sure to listen to your inner voice more now that you are in tune to your feelings. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A new idea is presented to you. You can change it into two possibilities available to you. However, you need to decide whether you want to go down this road in the first place. Don't make a decision too quickly -- ask for some time to decide."}, {"response": 1066, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (21:23)", "body": "November 22, ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Planning new goals and aspirations is favored today as your thoughts are clear and concise. Activities in and around your home will leave you experiencing that special glow that comes to all who take part in the spiritual side of Christmas. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today weigh all requests of money, goods, or services from you by those who pose as friends and even from casual acquaintances, as this would be a strain on you and these people really don't care if they impose on you, so cut them off at the pass...say no. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The iron is hot and that makes this a good time to strike. Since you need extra credit this would be a good day for talking with banks and lenders. You run into a surprise at work today and the other person is surprised also. Spend a quiet evening at home with the family. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you are clicking with new ideas and you are especially productive in the workplace. Don't let a well meaning friend give you some bad advice about a loved one, if you truly love this person and feel it is returned, then go for it. You will be glad you did. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Stay in step with reality today may keep your intuition sharpened but it is not a good day for daydreaming, or becoming absentminded on the job, as this could cause accidents and even get you in trouble with the boss. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You have blown the budget but it is not too late to get it together again if you start planning now. Try to talk rational with a loved one today and chances are, the two of you can pull out of this financial trouble in no time at all. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Christmas buying expenses may have you in an uproar today but there is not much you can do about it this year except shake off the anger and go ahead and enjoy the activities; next year you can make a difference by having everyone stick to a strict budget. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) This would be a good time to set aside the wherewithal to pay for that course of study that you may be needing in order to get the promotion that you want so badly. Meditation is favored today along with other mental pursuits. A friend asks for assistance today. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Children will be demanding a lot of your time today, and this will give you an opportunity to houseclean those emotions that is trying to get out of control. This is a good time to be cautious with your spending as it would be so easy to go over- board right now. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) The holidays have changed your life and your household around as you host several members of the family from out of town. A chance remark today gives you a fantastic idea for a money- making fun hobby that is so simple that you wonder why you never thought of it before. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You are one of the kindest people around and helping others is the sort of thing that you can put your heart and soul into and lead it to success, so when you are asked you head up a charity drive this year and you readily agree. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Certain people are trying to surprise you but you ferret out the secret ahead of time. It is best if you pretend not to know and let them have their fun. Beware of small animals today as one could unfriendly give you a nasty bite. A message from afar brings good news."}, {"response": 1067, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "November 22 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A social event with a friend has to be postponed due to transportation problems. Don't get upset -- it's just not meant to be today. And, besides, doesn't the house need to be cleaned anyway? FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius A higher up is helping you work on a project so be diplomatic when disagreeing with him. Make sure not to put him on a pedestal -- you have your own special ideas to contribute. Pick his brain about finances -- he knows what he is talking about. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You have the opportunity for a new journey. Get out of your intellectual mind and go with your feelings. While others might be saying you're playing the fool's game, listen to what your heart tells you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A career situation is ending. You're not quite sure where it's going to take you but don't worry about it because you will taken care of nicely. This is a new opportunity for you so have an open mind."}, {"response": 1068, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 22, 2000 (20:22)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, November 23, 2000 Thanksgiving: This holiday will be marked by reunions, the ending of a family dispute. Let go of past grievances. Moon position emphasizes joy and justice. Share dinner with one you have secretly loved. It will be a happy Thanksgiving if you so permit. Individual arrives from distant city in many cases. Take initiative in extending hand of friendship, forgiveness. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Vitality makes comeback. Imprint style. Exude aura of friendship. Love relationship reignites. Leo, Aquarius natives play dramatic roles. Lucky number 1. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on direction, motivation and requisite for meditation. Marital status figures prominently. Cancer, Capricorn persons play unusual roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on versatility, diversity. Long-distance call that could lead to journey. Keep resolutions concerning exercise, diet, nutrition. New wardrobe. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Tear down in order to rebuild. This could be your make-over day. You exude personality, sex appeal. Don't break too many hearts. Scorpio is in picture. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Keep plans flexible. Offer received to read, write, teach. Flirtation serious -- no fooling around. Gemini, Virgo individuals will play instrumental roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention revolves around domestic situation. Lost article retrieved. Opportunity exists to increase income. Music involved. Possible change of residence. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Scales are delicately balanced. Play waiting game. Don't get involved in dispute that is foolish. See people, relationships in realistic manner. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You could be talk of the town. Answer to dilemma will be found backstage. Look behind scenes. Someone is following you. No harm will come of it. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Toss aside preconceived notions. Predict your future; make it come true. Unique honor due, possibly from foreign nation. Aries, Libra persons figure in scenario. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Take initiative. Make fresh start. Wear bright colors. Love relationship revived, will sizzle. Individual you admire returns compliment. Leo in picture. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You will be entertained in surprising manner this Thanksgiving. You will share sumptuous meal with superior. Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership, marriage. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Joy for you this holiday. Remember resolutions concerning diet, exercise, nutrition. Blend conviviality with history. Explore deep meanings of Thanksgiving. IF NOVEMBER 23 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are inquisitive, have knack for making people feel comfortable. You are a natural psychologist, writer. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play meaningful roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. December will be very social. You will make friends and influence people. July of next year will be your most important, romantic month."}, {"response": 1069, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (11:24)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, November 27, 2000 ``Sultan of Smut'': This Scorpio has aroused the ire of those who fight the battle against pornography. Years ago, Larry Flynt was shot and became paralyzed. He is a successful editor and publisher, and laughs in the faces of those who seek to shame him. He has the sense of humor that many call weird. His foundation has contributed money to research on spinal-cord injuries, child abuse and youth violence. Larry Flynt -- a most unforgettable character. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Excellent for advertising, publishing. Love relationship exciting, subject to change. Virgo will play unusual role. You could be consulted on editorial project. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): What you seek will practically be handed to you on proverbial silver platter. You will receive luxury item as gift. Domestic adjustment featured. Libra involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Emphasis on legalities, public relations, marital status. Play waiting game. You do not have necessary information. If patient, you win. Otherwise you lose. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Focus on promotion, production, distribution. Relationship controversial, exciting. Question of partnership, marriage looms large. Capricorn plays dynamic role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on romance, far-away lands. Someone wants to tell you something. Open lines of communication. Aries will play pertinent role. Listen and love. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Let go of preconceived notions. Take cold plunge into future. Emphasize original thinking. Take chance on romance. Don't follow others. Leo dominates scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Family members are sincere but could be sincerely misinformed. If single, you could encounter future mate. You'll receive proposals, partnership and marriage. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Emphasis on entertainment, social activity, participation in political debate. Sagittarius will play major role. Ask questions. Give full play to intellectual curiosity. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): You could be talk of the town. Revise accounting methods. Tear down in order to rebuild. Wear clothes and hair differently. Scorpio represented. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Be ready for change of venue. What might have seemed settled is not that at all. Journey indicated, involves Virgo. Relationship serious, avoid playing games. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Attention revolves around family, home, enlarged living quarters. You will know once and for all that your love is not unrequited. Sleep well; pleasant dreams. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Define terms; outline boundaries. Professional superior wants to hear your side. Be realistic about people, relationships. Another Pisces figures in scenario. IF NOVEMBER 27 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are drawn to humanitarian projects. You travel more than most persons. People are attracted to you with their problems. You are better at helping others than in promoting your own cause. Aries, Libra persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: I and R. During December be sure to get promises, commitments in writing."}, {"response": 1070, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (11:25)", "body": "November 27 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You are a sensitive person, loving and caring for others and today you will be showing this by helping a friend who is in need of your aid. This person needs the help you give and you are very happy that he or she chose to come to you. Romance marches along at an even pace. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is a good day for social interests but you must first concentrate on the work at hand, patience will be rewarded. Evening may bring some holiday plans your way, be careful they are not too merry, or your friends get too rowdy, as you could wind up in a lot of trouble. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) The occult may capture your undivided attention today as some things you have been reading or listening to have helped you decide about using this on a website. You already know more than you realize about it and you can research the rest' go for it. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Business problems work their own way out during the morning hours and you feel a deep sense of relief. Projects ready for presentation should be handled immediately before they begin to age. Be sure you check for the minor details that you may need to fix. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your home based computer business takes up a day off from our regular job, and you make the most of it as you work out all the bugs and get your site running smoothly. Family and friends give you the peace and quiet you need to do this. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Not finding the bargain you looked for yesterday will only spur you on to search again today...and find it. Plan to do something entertaining with the family tonight, maybe a fancy restaurant, or some other less traveled, but safe, place. Prepare for tomorrows trip. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Quick stepping in tune with life today you do not look for or expect trouble. The sad part is that you may find it and in the most unlikely place. Pay no attention to quarrel- some loved ones today. Make time to learn another phase of the business. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) An idea you had concerning the business is more right than you know and it may pay to take a chance today. Holiday plans are closely tied in with your vacation fun plans. Try to focus on work more and fun less, so you are not caught napping when something important pops up. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Meeting with financial planners or loan officers could be nerve wracking today but not if you let your intuition guide you from the beginning. Since your sensitive side is high today you will find you are right most of the time. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your inner self will be trying to warn you about certain things that may have to do with the romance in your life ...heed it well, especially during the afternoon when you have the most stress. Do it now and save a lot of trouble further down the road. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You are offered the opportunity to better your self and the living conditions of your family through the offer of a better paying job. This offers a lot that you have been want- ing and so you grab the ball and run with it. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You may be the one that everyone at work looks to show them he way, so take full advantage of the situation and build your popularity in the workplace, it can go far to getting you a raise. Take your spouse out and do a little holiday celebrating early.."}, {"response": 1071, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (11:26)", "body": "November 27, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn The more you hold on to the past, the more you'll stay there. Take the time today to clear up an old situation with a family member. Once it is done, keep it in the past. You'll see you're going to have more opportunities coming your way. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Tempers flare up at the office and, if you're not careful, you'll get pulled right into the middle of it. This is one time you shouldn't try to play peacemaker. While you'll have the best intentions at heart, stay clear or you'll find you're defending yourself! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You're shocked by another's actions today. Unfortunately, you're left to do damage control. Handle this situation with grace and confidence, you'll impress others around you because you won't stoop to a low level. A Virgo helps you stay grounded. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Don't push yourself too hard today -- there is always tomorrow to finish your work! You should take your time to finish what you need to do. If not, you'll have to do it again because of careless mistakes."}, {"response": 1072, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (17:07)", "body": "ok, two things happened--the legality thing -- a contract solicitation i'm doing is in for legal review and i got word that they finished it today and-- the shocking thing -- a friend reacted weird to something she was tasked to do (work-related) and i didn't expect it out of her. but, i handled it with grace and our relationship is still intact!"}, {"response": 1073, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Nov 28, 2000 (08:25)", "body": "What was so bad about what she was asked to do, wolfie?"}, {"response": 1074, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov 28, 2000 (17:42)", "body": "oh it wasn't the task as much as the fact that it's something we (our squadron) got hit with and it was down to her and me. she refused, i had something scheduled but rescheduled and it worked out."}, {"response": 1075, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 28, 2000 (19:53)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday, November 29, 2000 Mysterious Author: He wrote what many consider a modern classic: ``The Catcher in the Rye.'' This Capricorn also wrote many short stories and kept himself hidden from those who would interview him. J.D. Salinger is truly a man of mystery. He is a January 1st Capricorn and one of the great writers of our time. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Apparent setback will boomerang in your favor. You discover hidden allies. Moon at top part of your chart indicates promotion, production, prestige. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Lunar position highlights spirituality, publishing, ability to communicate with those in foreign lands. Power-play day. You gain recognition to be famous. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Obtain hint from Taurus message. You could be talk of the town. Toss aside preconceived notions. You can do the impossible. Uncomfortable burden is lifted. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Make fresh start. Highlight original thinking, independence. Imprint style. Do not follow others. Focus on proposals, partnership and marriage. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Direction becomes crystal clear. You know where to go and how to arrive at destination. Cancer, Capricorn persons play top roles. Your love is not unrequited. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Accent social activity, discussions concerning politics. Highlight versatility and humor. Sagittarian plays featured role. Moon position emphasizes creativity, sex appeal. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Details unravel in connection with search for living quarters. Get agreements in writing. Red tape will eventually work in favor. Scorpio involved. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Be alert for change, travel, variety. Flirtation is very interesting, but be careful. Read and write, learn by teaching. Gemini, Virgo persons are in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Domestic adjustment necessary. Be diplomatic, not weak. If single, you encounter future mate. If married, you will be glad for it. Taurus, Libra persons play roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Those who ignored you in past will now clamor for your attention. See people, relationships as they are. Avoid self-deception. Maintain aura of mystery. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): People comment, ``I like you this way.'' Focus on confidence, promotion, intensity in connection with romance. Cancer, Capricorn individuals edge their way into scenario. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You are capable of accurately predicting future. Perceive trends. Do something about it. Moon position highlights friends, hopes, fulfillment of desires. IF NOVEMBER 29 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: There was some mix-up concerning your name. You had more than one name and this has nothing to do with marriage. You are intuitive, a natural psychologist, drawn to the mantic arts. Capricorn, Cancer natives play interesting roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. You travel in December. You will hear these words, ``I love you.''"}, {"response": 1076, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 28, 2000 (19:54)", "body": "Oh Wolfie, I am surrrounded by once and future Tauri..."}, {"response": 1077, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (07:49)", "body": "\"mant\"mantic arts\"?"}, {"response": 1078, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (13:44)", "body": "uh huh.... prophetic arts"}, {"response": 1079, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (16:40)", "body": "November 29 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you may meet someone who is your ideal sign, a sagittarian, who will breeze into your life and sweep you off your feet. Look carefully at this good luck and be sure that this person isn't just attracted to you for a fling. If not, go for it, this could be the one for you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your money may begin to trickle in today as you begin to see some return on investments made a long time ago. With some extra time on your hands you will be able to complete some personal projects or take care of those Christmas shopping chores you still have left to do. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today your financial picture shows a big improvement as you are given that long overdue raise and promotion. Do not obligate yourself to others, if you can get by without borrowing then don't borrow, but if not be sure you return whatever you must borrow right away. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Encourage creative impulses among your loved ones or even nurture your own on this wonderful day. Your new home or living arraign- ments are many cuts above what you had before and this also gives you much soul satisfaction and peace while making you creative. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A friend will go the distance today to get you a date with someone that you have admired from afar but seems too aloof and unapproach- able for you. You will find this person to be warm and caring as the aloof front is meant to protect not deter. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) There is buried treasure in those problems that you have been struggling with as once conquered they will reap large rewards for you. Turn a disagreement with the spouse into a valuable learning experience for both of you as you discuss it like adults. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Someone needs a certain item that you may have and cannot afford to go out and buy it. Why not give that item to your friend and call it a Christmas present? Undying gratitude will be yours. Take a break from work and get your chores at home in hand...you know; shopping, etc.. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Changing your advertising nets you quite a few new clients that will keep you buried in work right through the Holidays. Hire someone to help you out so you can spend some of this joyful time with the family. Evening will bring much rewards in the romantic arena. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Offering a relative stranger as much help as possible will net you a brand new friend that will be there for you when the chips are down. An old friend calls you long distance and you have an exciting talk. Make up the spare room as this person will visit over the holidays. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A new routine may have you stumbling in the dark but you are quick to catch on to the hows and whys and soon begin to feel like you have been doing it all your life. If you and the spouse argue today be sure to make up before evening...never let the sun set on an argument if you can help it. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today the changes you experience will be for the good even if it does not feel that way at first. Treat a decision today with the proper importance as it will affect many more people than you know. Today you should learn to say no to someone who refuses to give up. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Cultivate a forceful personality today in order to accomplish all the tasks that must be done. You have a winning personality that will go far today to get people to go along with your plans and ideas, be careful you do not use this ability to take advan- tage of situations."}, {"response": 1080, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (16:41)", "body": "November 29 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A Cancer person wants to take care of you. However, you don't really need to be mothered today. Politely tell this person you're doing okay -- and they'd be much more useful helping you with a timely project. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius An important decision needs to be made so make sure to take all the facts into account. Others are leaving you holding the bag on this so make sure to ask divine guidance before you reveal the plan to others. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A family member really needs a sounding board today. You can be an angel on earth by providing good advice. Don't judge what the situation is -- just look at the facts and give advice based on that. Ask a Gemini to get involved to make things easier. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A dream can become a reality if you put your mind to it. Stop thinking you're unworthy of the prize or you'll never receive your reward. A little hard work and determination will bring you the abundance you're craving."}, {"response": 1081, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "***************** December Outlook ***************** Astrology overview: there's a partial eclipse, sort of like a minor, tiny one in early Capricorn, on the big day. That's something to look forward to because it certainly won't be popping out from any Yule Log, or from under a tree, or whatever your year end tradition [or winter solstice] dictates. Jupiter is still windmilling backward through the very early degrees of Gemini. Saturn is still in Taurus at the late degrees, Mars spends most of the month comfortably accommodated in Libra, but at the last minute, he does slip into Scorpio. It will prove to be an interesting round up to this year, perhaps the best way to describe it is getting the year end stuff done a little ahead of time, and getting a good launch on the new year just a tad bit early. Aries : There are some pretty well defined peaks this month. Unfortunately, this is like looking out of a fishing camp high in the Rocky Mountains, on one of those summer mornings when it's pretty hard to guess that it's really summer time because it's so cold. There's a heavy frost on the ground, and the clouds have rolled in. To be sure, there's a pristine clarity, way overhead as the mountain tops soar to hold up the sky. But down around the camp itself, it's pretty cold and foggy. Don't worry, it's a wet cold, and it seeps into everything. So while there are some definite high points this month, there seems to be a lot of mornings that are just like that fishing camp in the mountains. Cold, wet, miserable. I wouldn't want to paint myself into a corner, and with some of the the little uplifting astrological events month, you're going to see yourself doing rather well at certain points, certain little astrological mile markers. There's one in the first week, one in the second week, one in the third week, as you can see, it's not just a single mountain peak you're looking at, but a while range of mountains. And despite the bone chilling cold in the mornings, all month long, there's a break, almost every day as you tie on one of your home made flies, and position yourself by that alpine lake. Beautiful, big, hungry trout. So when nothing seems to warm you up, just remember that those mountain trout are some of the easiest fish to clean. Taurus : This is going to be a weird horoscope because I'm going to fly in the face of conventional astrology right now. Most folks are going to tell you about the holidays, the good stuff coming up, how you can be best spending your time attending to matters of a personal nature, and how romance is going to flourish. Skip it. Look at this the Fishing Guide to the Stars way, spend just a little extra time at the office. Some folks around here assume that my office is a boat, and that makes it easy for me to float off with work. And that's exactly the image I would suggest for you, floating away with what you do. There's some extra income that would certainly be welcome, and while money won't actually buy happiness, it does translate into a lot of presents which make a lot of other people happy right now. This is another long term planning time. While everyone else is still looking at the short run, the end of this month, I want my fine Taurus friends to keep looking for the end of the rainbow, which, unfortunately, doesn't really hit until sometime next month. So this month, the more work you're willing to do, the greater the rewards. Gemini : It's a pretty simple and straightforward month for Gemini, because Jupiter is still moving backwards in your sign. This gives an unsettling energy, like you can think of about two million tasks you should accomplish, but the highest priority winds up being a nap. It's like every afternoon this month is a lazy afternoon. You sit down at the computer to get some work done, and wind up thinking about sending out a holiday to e-mail and then you spend the rest of the afternoon looking for your Holiday artwork, and then you decide to design something in a graphics program, and you've wasted an entire afternoon, accomplishing exactly zero on the normal scale of \"accomplished work index.\" On a Gemini sale, though, you've actually gotten a lot of little bits and pieces of your life tidied up -- it's just that this doesn't always translate to us lesser signs as something really momentous. So work with our way of looking at things, if you must. And don't worry about what the other signs are saying behind your back right now. Keep doing what you do best, and this month will eventually turn up some surprising results, it just might not be what everyone else was expecting out of you. Cancer : The holiday season is usually a time that's a little too busy, a little frantic, and a little strung out. Your month does begin like this, and while most holiday years go from bad to worse, there's a difference this time. There's an odd lift that starts on Christmas Eve, literally. Mars moves into a sign that he likes. And you like it, too, especially since this "}, {"response": 1082, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (17:19)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday, November 30, 2000 Churchill: Today is the anniversary of Winston Churchill's birth. This Sagittarian was no stranger to astrology. He had his favorite star and so did his mother. He commissioned an astrologer as a captain in intelligence in the war against Adolph Hitler. He said, ``I would shake hands with the devil in the House of Commons if it would help me defeat Hitler.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): One who usually bypassed you will seek a consultation. Be generous. Get commitments in writing. You're due for promotion, added prestige. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Focus on publishing, communication, being in touch with the world. Look beyond the immediate. Make predictions; they will come true. Libra is in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Take cold plunge into the future. Focus on independence, originality. Don't follow others. Leo, Aquarius play dramatic roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Emphasis on proposals, business partnership, marriage. Learn more about restaurant management, recipes and food. Be ready for exciting turn of events. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Diversify. Insist on quality. Focus on political choices, humor, ability to laugh at your own foibles. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play outstanding roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Your kind of day. Check measurements, other details. Rewrite, rebuild, make this your make-over day. Taurus, Scorpio individuals will play dramatic roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Read and write, teach and learn. Focus on change, travel, variety, serious flirtation. Don't break too many hearts. Music plays. Dance to your own tune. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Attention revolves around home, family, possible change of residence, marital status. If single, you could encounter future mate. Beautify surroundings. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Deception exists in connection with earnings. Lost article returned. Someone is promoting a scheme that means no good for you. Pisces, Virgo are in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Look beyond the immediate. Focus on promotion, production, distribution. Ideas previously rejected can now be enthusiastically accepted. Another Capricorn involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): What goes around comes around. You learn meaning of that axiom. Aries, Libra persons figure prominently, become allies. Let go of preconceived notions. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Make room for new ideas. Original thinking essential. Focus on independence, creativity, willingness to face future with optimism. Leo will play dramatic role. IF NOVEMBER 30 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have marvelous sense of humor. You also are creative, passionate, dynamic and no stranger to politics. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play fascinating roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. During December you make fresh start in new direction -- could be involved in heated romance. Most memorable month next year will be September."}, {"response": 1083, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (17:53)", "body": "well, a virgo friend got some advice from me today whether they liked it or not! now i'll have to wait and see *smile*"}, {"response": 1084, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (18:39)", "body": "Probably a very good thing if I hear you correctly!!! Good for you!"}, {"response": 1085, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (19:45)", "body": "you heard me correctly dearie! *HUGS*"}, {"response": 1086, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (20:36)", "body": "Woo Hoo Wolfie!!! *HUGS* (why are you not showing up on my MSN?!)"}, {"response": 1087, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (23:47)", "body": "November 30, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Life itself is a bumpy road, but much you do today will help fill in some of the potholes and make the going much smoother for you and all concerned. Treat a loved one with the consid- eration, love, and respect, that you want for yourself and you will surely get it. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) being unkind and petty today with someone with whom you have a work relationship may be the straw that breaks the camels back so be careful that you take time to praise, not run down this persons efforts in the workplace. Loved ones plan a big sur- prise for you. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A cancer who is very supportive of your efforts will have much to do today in advancing your career. A love relationship may be on the rocks and you must recognize this before the pieces washes up on the beach; a good time for letting go. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A chance remark from a loved one gives you what may turn out to be a million dollar idea...run with it. A challenge at work may only make you stronger if you meet it head on. Give a friend all the help you can as well as the benefit of the doubt. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Donating to your favorite charity this time of year is always helpful, but you can be of much more worth to this worthy cause if you donate your time as well as your money. Fiery Leo has a quick temper today and should control it before it can cause some irreparable damage to a relationship. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A compliment haunts you today as you feel it means something... It does! Your subconscious is telling you to live up to it, as this is the way you should be inside and not just on the sur- face. Avoid putting off the inevitable today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) An air of mystery and intrigue is great today as it helps to draw romantic relationships to you today and you will be able to pretty much take your pick of admirers. At work, delays may seem irritating but they serve to give you that little extra time that you will need to complete certain projects. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Forget the small stuff today as you are wide open for the big- ger things to come into your life now and you will soon find yourself living life to the fullest; better income and finan- cial structure is only a part of it. Romance also figures in this day for you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) An idea for redecorating your living space generates so much positive response from friends and family that you strongly consider opening a small redecorating shop...perhaps, at first, on a consultation only basis for do it yourselfers. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Stand up for yourself, your rights, or your ideas today as you receive resistance to what you know to be best for you and your own. Today is good for putting in some time on planning for the long holiday trip that you and the family are considering. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) An old acquaintance feels moved by the holidays and manages to repay quite a sum of money that has been owed to you for a long time. The balance will come forth before the new year. This windfall enables you to expand your holiday plans to an extent that you would not have though possible. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A good career break is coming your way and you may hear of it today. Detail work is all important on that creative project that you are working on...miss even the smallest and the whole thing will need redoing. Friends come over for some holiday entertainment."}, {"response": 1088, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 29, 2000 (23:48)", "body": "November 30, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Study all the facts before you present your ideas to the higher ups. You'll have to discuss your position in much more depth than you anticipated. However, you'll impress the boss if you have all the information at your fingertips. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You'll meet an old flame in the most unusual place today. This is going to be good for you since you'll be able to heal an old wound. It probably wouldn't benefit for you to keep in touch so don't offer your phone number. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Has anyone told you how wonderful you've been during a topsy-turvy time at work? If not, you'll get a lot of praise today. There has finally been a breakthrough and you'll reap the benefits of all your hard work. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Don't take a good situation for granted. Make sure you get done what you need to get done. Others will feel like you are taking advantage of them and the good favors will stop -- and quickly!"}, {"response": 1089, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov 30, 2000 (21:03)", "body": "ohmygosh, there was a breakthrough with one of my bigger projects today."}, {"response": 1090, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov 30, 2000 (21:10)", "body": "(i don't know why i wasn't showing up...hmmmmmm......)"}, {"response": 1091, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 30, 2000 (23:30)", "body": "ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you may lose the first battle but the war is far from over and you could come out the winner in the long run. Another Aries may have designs on your love and your affection and you find this suits you just right! A great evening for affairs of the heart. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) By forming a partnership with a Capricorn and an Aries you will have a winning combination for making your small business grow even beyond your expectations. Hire a Virgo for your adman and you will have it made. Holiday joy at its finest is yours to- night. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Many influential people will enter your life in the nest few weeks and you will meet some who will be most helpful to you tonight if you accept that offer to attend a social event staged for the benefit of charitable causes. Forgive a be- loved relative who needs it but may or may not deserve it. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Developing an optimistic attitude today will help you over some rough hurdles and smooth the way for your advancement at work. Send a loved one flowers in his or her workplace to establish your tie in the eyes of those who would be otherwise persistent in pressing their own suit with your loved one. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Look for a business or stock investment to pay off in time for the holiday celebrations, enabling you to do much more than you thought you would be able to this year. Your organ- izing skills are at a premium today and you use them wisely in your working environment. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) In fulfilling a contract for creative work today you could do yourself a favor by collaborating with a Pisces or even a Cancer for some creative ideas as this is a good creative time for those signs and this could mean quicker dollars in your pocket. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You find yourself making a lot of new friends since you have begun the new job as it draws you into a whole new circle of acquaintances. New is good, but don't neglect the old ones who have been around for a number of years. A romantic attach- ment to a Leo may be too hot to handle. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Remember, that all the good horoscope readings in the world will mean nothing if you do not go out and let the world have a go at you...or vice versa! Surprise yourself today and go to a semi important social function, you never know what could happen, romance wise. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Being imaginative and having a flair for creativity can make a little go a long way and you manage to do that today as you use your skills in decorating your home for the holidays. The yard displays are a thing of beauty and may even be a prize winner. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Investing in the future of an Arian should prove to be a good one so don't hesitate to help her get the show on the road, you will be greatly repaid for such a small sum. If you must question the morals of someone close to you, then you should first be sure yours can stand the test of scrutiny. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) In this wonderful season of miracles you may have one of your own...an angel may be walking at your side any time, but you have to look around to see it...Hmmm..does the angel look like a down at the heels stranger? Offer some help and listen to the song in your heart soar with joy. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) After working so hard to get working conditions improved at work you will find your popularity has increased many-fold when the holiday invitations start to pour in. A call from far away today may trouble you but the problem has a simple solution and you will find it."}, {"response": 1092, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 30, 2000 (23:35)", "body": "above and below is for December 1, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Even though you don't want to go, a social event will help you network tonight. It won't be much but you'll make a connection that will help you finish a long overdue personal project. Ask this Gemini for their phone number -- you'll need to connect later! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You don't have to put up with someone else's ignorance. You have the opportunity to stand up for someone who can't stand up for himself. Your actions will positively affect other people and change their way of thinking. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Your intuition is right on today -- no matter how silly it seems to be. Follow what your heart is saying because it knows what's best for you. A friend can help you put the wheels in motion for a brand new project. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Mechanical problems will drive you crazy today. At least what needs to be fixed is simple and inexpensive so don't worry too much about it. While you wait, you can catch up on some reading!"}, {"response": 1093, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 30, 2000 (23:40)", "body": "I seem to be doing everything wrong this week. Wolfie this on is for you!!! I can't wait till January - and all this stuff is over..."}, {"response": 1094, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (07:04)", "body": "Wait a minute, what about December?"}, {"response": 1095, "author": "meditation", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (10:17)", "body": "Iwant to talk about gene therapy."}, {"response": 1096, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (14:01)", "body": "Probably the science conference would be your best bet. And the best place to ask is in porch but in a topic about pointers to other places on the Spring in this conference. ./"}, {"response": 1097, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (17:29)", "body": "Yes, here is the Science conference, the place to start up a topic on Genetics: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/science/all"}, {"response": 1098, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (17:56)", "body": "we also have a topic in springark for genetics!"}, {"response": 1099, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (21:37)", "body": "What's your sign Neeraj?"}, {"response": 1100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (14:16)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday December 2, 2000 Lest We Forgot: His role in ``A Tale of Two Cities'' is remembered by many movie fans. Some people claim that they fell in love with his deep, sonorous voice. In the Charles Dickens saga, Ronald Colman, Aquarius, gave his life for love. He was a close friend of David Niven and an ``enemy'' of Samuel Goldwyn. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Express right to expect comfort, luxury, romance. Aquarian Moon indicates that many of your hopes, desires will be fulfilled. Capricorn plays role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Individual you once loved makes surprise appearance. Maintain emotional equilibrium. Libra plays fulfilling role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Take cold plunge into future. Don't follow others. Maintain original course: don't waver. Wear bright colors. Make personal appearances. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Make people laugh, especially family members. Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership, marital status. You'll have an excellent seafood dinner. Capricorn involved. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): What seemed hazardous will be made easy. Emphasize versatility, humor. Idealistic Sagittarian proves to be loyal ally. Long-missing relative is waiting to hear from you. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Revise, rewrite. Try on new wardrobe. Love relationship will be back on track. Avoid those who take you for granted. Taurus, Scorpio persons figure in scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Creative juices stir. Gain indicated via written word. Flirtation more serious than originally anticipated. Take care not to be hurt. Virgo in mysterious role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Broken promise will be mended: family and home involved. You'll be commended on your voice, appearance. Say thank you without being obsequious. Libra featured. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): See people, relationships as they are and not merely as you wish they could be. Aura of deception exists. Protect self in emotional clinches. Pisces in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Punch fast, hard to get point across. Older individual pretends to be on your side but is not. Focus on priorities, organization. You will be promoted. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Look beyond the immediate. Make plans on international scale. Travel to foreign country is distinct possibility. Let go of burden you should not have assumed in first place. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Shake off emotional lethargy. Come out of shell. Imprint style. Don't follow others. A different kind of love is on horizon. Leo will play fantastic role. IF DECEMBER 2 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are family-oriented, fond of exchanging recipes, fascinated by people who are talented. You could be an excellent chef. Capricorn, Cancer persons play major roles in your life -- could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. This past year for you was miracle of survival. During next year, fresh start in February. February and September will be most memorable in 2001."}, {"response": 1101, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (17:53)", "body": "December 2 is my birthday. Excellent chef? No. I'll be on the lookout in February."}, {"response": 1102, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (23:09)", "body": "Hauoli Na Hanau, Terry Triple White Ginger Lei"}, {"response": 1103, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (23:11)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday December 3, 2000 Britney Spears: This 19-year-old Sagittarian is at the top of her game, her records have sold in the millions. She is the idol of teen-agers but some critics say her songs and movements are too suggestive. She claims she is a devout Christian. Britney Spears has been performing publicly since she was four. Her record ``One More Time'' has gone platinum 12 times. Britney Spears -- star Sagittarian. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Project, which took time and paid little money, will be finished. Within 24 hours you'll feel as if a new person. Today, play it cool. No snap decisions. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Moon position promises popularity, fulfillment of hopes, wishes. Leo, Aquarius persons play memorable roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership and marital status. One in authority seeks consultation. Do not go hat in hand. Cancer native involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Lunar aspect highlights philosophy, theology and preparation for journey. Popularity increases; people talk to you about politics. Gemini figures prominently. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Dig deep for information; some charge you are in playground of the occult. Maintain emotional equilibrium, sense of humor. Taurus, Scorpio persons play roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Do what you do best - read and write, share knowledge, teach. Be positive concerning legal clearances. Question of marital status looms large. Sagittarius involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Focus on living quarters, decorating and remodeling. Make decisions concerning where to live and with whom. You could encounter future mate. Aries in picture. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Hold back on final decisions. You don't have necessary facts, wait and observe. Aura of deception exists, protect self at close quarters. Pisces involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Emphasize promotion, production and participation. Cancer, Capricorn persons play dramatic roles. Number 8\ufffd CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Predict your future, make it come true. Emphasize universal appeal, open lines of communication. Someone in another nation wants to tell you something. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): New start in different direction will prove profitable. Check assets, line up priorities. Focus on direction, motivation and necessity for meditation. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Cycle high, you will be at right place at crucial moment. Wear bright colors, make personal appearances. Take initiative; do not follow others. Capricorn represented. IF DECEMBER 3 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have swift wit, sense of humor and possess intellectual curiosity. You enjoy modeling new clothes. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play important roles in your life, are likely to have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. Not long ago you thought your heart was broken, would never mend. You make amazing comeback."}, {"response": 1104, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Dec 3, 2000 (11:44)", "body": "Happy Birthday Terry!"}, {"response": 1105, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Dec 3, 2000 (12:04)", "body": "Britney Spears is as much a devout Christian as I am an Orthodox Sikh. She only makes herself look even more ridiculous by making such claims. If she'd just come out and declare that she 'wants to be a hooker when she grows up' then I'm sure we'd all have a lot more respect for her. Especially in that schoolgirl kit. :-)"}, {"response": 1106, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 3, 2000 (18:48)", "body": "You think Britney stands a chance of growing up? Think she is being fed Peter Pan in her morning gruel. Your Daily Horoscope for Monday December 4, 2000 Brian Dennehy: Many know him by appearance, his acting. Not so many are familiar with his name. Brian Dennehy is a Cancer. He won a Tony award for his role in the Broadway revival of ``Death of a Salesman,'' which earned four Tonys in all. At one time he was serious about becoming a priest. He is due to reach greater heights in 2001. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Shed light in areas previously dark. Opportunities abound if you take initiative. Secret revealed to your advantage. Leo, Aquarius persons play roles. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Questions concerning marital status loom large. Focus on direction, motivation and realization that meditation is necessary. Many hopes, wishes fulfilled. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Bring forth sense of humor, entertain and be entertained. New wardrobe helps elevate morale. People want to wine and dine you. Sagittarian in picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): What you have been waiting for will arrive. Check details and measurements. Review, revise and rebuild. Rewriting task easier than first appears. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Spotlight on ability to adapt to quick changes. Member of opposite sex confides, ``I'm very much attracted.'' Virgo, Pisces individuals very much in picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention revolves around living quarters and partnership and marriage. You could change residence and encounter future mate. Be diplomatic, not weak. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Aura of deception present, go easy, protect self in emotional clinches. Someone tells you something; it is not the truth. Have luck with number 7. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Focus on organization, intensified relationship. Pressure builds, you will be up to it. Promotion, greater, financial security indicated. Capricorn involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look beyond the immediate, communicate with individual in foreign land. You could find representative for your talent, product. Aries plays top role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Let go of preconceived notions. Make fresh start. Wear bright colors that include yellow, gold. New acquaintance could become future love partner. Leo represented. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Employment picture subject to change. Avoid health hazards. Be positive concerning motivation, direction. Cancer native proves valuable ally. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Take initiative, make appointments, assert views in positive manner. Circumstances are turning in your favor. Be selective and insist on quality. Gemini featured. IF DECEMBER 4 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Many consider you unorthodox, including your family. You draw to you unusual people whose occupations are not considered normal. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life and could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. Social activities during holidays will be accelerated. Next year, July stands out as romantic, profitable."}, {"response": 1107, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (10:10)", "body": "Well, I'm talking to Mike whoi's in a foreign land. Looking forward to seeing business get pumped up."}, {"response": 1108, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (17:01)", "body": "ok, it must be you, marcia, cuz no one wined and dined me *frown*"}, {"response": 1109, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (17:06)", "body": "Monday Night Football is not usually conducive to whining and dining... or is it?!"}, {"response": 1110, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (17:09)", "body": "depends on the winer and diner (ohhhh, whiner and diner?) (hi marcia *HUGS*)"}, {"response": 1111, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (17:12)", "body": "Hi wolfie!!! December 4, ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This a good day to finalize your travel plans for the holidays. If you must stay in a motel be sure you make your reservations well ahead so you don't wind up in the cold with no place to stay. Good news about contractual matters is possible today. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Any financial dealings you have today should be in your favor, especially with brokers and bankers. Shrewd thinking will be the agent to get you where you want to be today. A more than usual closeness will be experienced with a spouse. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your esp will be invaluable to you today in all your dealings but especially so in the arena of finance. A crafty type of individual will try to take advantage of your good nature today; be on the lookout for this sly boots. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Following up on a remark that a coworker makes will turn the conversation into an argument and ruin a day that holds much promise for your career interests. It would be best to just bite your tongue today, another opportunity will soon present itself. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) It is being a little premature to blow a lot of money in pur- suit of a good time since the season of good times and invi- tations are here. Less drink and more socializing is just the ticket to get a certain person interested in you. That person is not going to be interested in someone who drinks to excess. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Solving your marital disputes is uppermost in your mind today as you strive to bring stability and peace to your surround- ings. Sometimes this is possible and other times not; you will be able to discern the difference as your insights will be right on target today. Try compromise. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Aggravations on the job as well as at home is more than pos- sible today as the calm peace of the morning gives way to a hectic few hours of the afternoon. By evening you will have been able to calm your world back down. Take the family out to dinner at a nice quiet place. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Devoting time to a pet project should not take precedence over social commitments today as there will be plenty of time to get these things done before Christmas if you set aside an hour a day strictly for your project. A new close- ness with a spouse makes this an excellent season. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You who are attracted by unusual things will find an unusual item that is just right for your home and indulge yourself with the purchase. Business matters should go well today as you have more than your usual amount of intuitiveness which will guide you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Enjoy your socializing today as a behind the scenes plan that has been working for your benefit will become apparent while in attendance at one such event. Friends may have a lot of suggestions regarding holiday activities and you could pick up some good ideas by listening. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Someone entrusts you with a personal confidence and you keep their secret. Doing some of your Christmas shopping in your local computer store will be a lot of fun for you, but if you are a newbe then be sure that you let the salesperson help you out. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today your career plans will progress nicely with some firm promises for the new year. A close one may be very sensitive today so be sure you are careful not to make disparaging remarks even if you feel they are necessary. Love, don't criticize."}, {"response": 1112, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "December 4, EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Smile - today is a great day for you! You've been feeling neglected and now a Scorpio rewards you for your hard work. Take some time to thank the angels for your good fortune. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Watch out for tempers flaring around you. While you have nothing to do with this -- be careful to stay clear or you'll be the brunt of the frustration. This might be a good day to go home early! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Relationships have been on the forefront of your mind lately. This would be a good day to have a talk with a loved one. Don't worry about being honest -- you need to get all your feelings out in the open. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Study hard because you have a tough test coming up. Ask for clarity on anything you are unsure of -- don't assume anything. There are people who will be looking to make sure you have the stuff to do the job."}, {"response": 1113, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (17:15)", "body": "don't want to eat at a diner with a whiner. Meetcha somewhere neat, Wolfie - maybe it is US!!!"}, {"response": 1114, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (17:16)", "body": "...or IN a diner...."}, {"response": 1115, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (22:04)", "body": "December 5, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Spend some midnight hours in marketing efforts if you would see some positive results on your web business after the holidays. Don't get so deep into work that others will feel neglected, set aside some time for your loved ones to enjoy being with you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Getting bullheaded today will not pay off for you in the long run as you will need to show a little understanding with a whole lot of 'give' today. Discuss the trip the family wishes to take; you may find out it is just what you would like also. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A bad temper could land you in some heavy duty domestic strife if you are not careful. Chances are good that your spouse is one who will push back and compromise can be the only reason- able route to follow. Give each other some breathing space. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Running back into your shell today will cause you to miss out on a lot of fun that will not come your way again this holiday season. Loosen up and go with the flow of the crowd, enjoy yourself for a change. Children should be taken shopping and taught to buy for others and not just themselves. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You are the life of the office party today and you keep every- one laughing right up to quitting time. Hiding your feelings is not easy to do but you manage it admirably until a loved one finds you out and decides to help you solve a nagging problem that has bogged down your holiday spirit. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Planning a short trip for pleasure will be a lot of fun for you this weekend and you and the spouse get together in agreement on all facets of the trip. While this trip will be for gambling, you always manage to keep it down to a mild roar and not lose too much. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) The Christmas vacation kicks your Christmas season off with a flourish as you make plans to visit your home town and spend most of the day shopping for the family. Your recep- tion will be wonderful so why not go a few days ahead of time so you will be well rested for the big day. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Counting down to Christmas has you in a flurry of activity as you juggle shopping trips and social invitation in your typical style. Don't let a so called friend get you down today with her pessimistic outlook on everything in general, avoid this person if possible. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Decorate your house for Christmas today and get all your shopping chores caught up with as you will have some early seasons visitors who was not due until Christmas eve! This makes you happy but you want to be finished so you can spend some happy time with them. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Social events may have your head in a whirl so maybe taking a quiet break by disappearing in a store or a shopping mall for most of the day will give you the time you need to re- store your equilibrium and your holiday spirit. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A great time to get in contact with someone you have not spoken to for almost a year. You will find that all your efforts actually did help this person create a new and better life for himself or herself and this is one of the greatest gifts you could receive. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You have the jump on everybody as you completed all your Christmas shopping and wrapping. Now you will have the time to spend on shopping for just the right outfit and accessories for wearing to that extra special Christmas party."}, {"response": 1116, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (22:15)", "body": "Decembe 5, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Don't turn down the opportunity to go to lunch with a co-worker, even though you have a lot of work to do. They know more than they are letting on to you. You've been the topic of some exciting plans so keep an open mind. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Your well laid plans are going to be derailed because of circumstances beyond your control. This is a blessing in disguise because your hard work will be recognized later. Handle this setback with grace and look to the future. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You have some time today to get some errands and administrative stuff done. Pay some bills, send some cards, and pick up those essentials. You won't have time or energy to do this later in the week so get it all done today. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces There are many who look to you for inspiration today. Don't get irritated if you have several people turning to you for advice. Don't wear your heart on your sleeve -- put on a brave face for others."}, {"response": 1117, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 5, 2000 (17:20)", "body": "and when am i supposed to do that? barely got time away from my desk today!"}, {"response": 1118, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 5, 2000 (18:50)", "body": "i'm still waiting..."}, {"response": 1119, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 5, 2000 (19:13)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday December 5, 2000 Art Bell: A radio personality, Art Bell, a Gemini, has tackled subjects from UFOs to survival of human personality following bodily death. He says, ``I have an open mind, I will listen to anybody.'' He is disdainful of critics, he admits, ``I talk about weird things.'' Audiences express love for him. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Soon circumstances turn in your favor. Decisions will be made concerning partnership, marriage. Cancer native figures prominently. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Much that had been hidden will be revealed. You benefit as result. Popularity zooms. Keep resolutions concerning diet, nutrition. Gemini in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Take notes, especially of dreams. Be thorough, be positive concerning details, including proper measurements. Many desires to be fulfilled. CANCER (June 21-July 22): You could be talk of the town! Your words will be reviewed, verbal and written. Be careful, someone attempts to stop you. Flirtation becomes serious. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Long distance communication verifies opinions. Emphasis on possible change of residence, marital status. Make intelligent concessions in dealing with stubborn Taurus. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Cycle moves up, remain cautious. Legal clearance required, protect reputation. Pisces may not be telling entire truth. Written message contains hidden clues. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Lie low, play waiting game. Music plays, find your rhythm, dance to your own tune. Big financial deal is upcoming. Capricorn makes declaration of loyalty. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): What was once rejected could now be accepted. You win popularity with subjects considered out of bounds. Aries, Libra persons find ways of helping you. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Let go of past concerns relating to beliefs. Create your own tradition, starting today. Let others follow you if they desire. Make personal appearances. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Decision reached concerning ownership of property. Let others know you will fight for your own rights. Focus on cooperative efforts, marital status. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Highlight versatility, intellectual curiosity. Demand answers to queries, not evasions. Sagittarian plays major role. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You receive good news. What was lost will be recovered. Revise, rewrite and rebuild. Stick with number 4\ufffd IF DECEMBER 5 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are attractive, dynamic and restless, have tendency to be involved with people below your station. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius natives play important roles in your life. Could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. You've learned it was time to move on, to begin project. During 2001, focus will be on home, family and marital status."}, {"response": 1120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 5, 2000 (22:43)", "body": "December 6, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This is a good day for making presentations at work and to talk one on one with business higher ups and peers alike. You can get your points across with a lot more clarity at this time. Take care of old bills that may crop up today so they don't hang around and haunt your holidays. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Listen carefully to a suggestion from a friend today on ways to make your business grow; you could come up with something great. Do not listen to rumors no matter how much you may feel upset by them, always give the other person a chance to explain. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Devoting a lot of time today to study or to research will be of great benefit to you in the near future. Be optimistic and upbeat about your business affairs as you are entering a new cycle that will allow you much more flexibility which can bring bigger successes. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Conversation with a good friend could bring on a lot of exchange of secrets...be sure you don't tell too much or someone elses' confidences. This is not a good day for gambling or even loaning money; guard your finances. Pay attention to a child tonight. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Taking time to meditate on some purely personal problems is indicated for today as well as the pursuit of more mental interests. Your esp is clicking and this makes you quick on the uptake in most situations; you are a force to be reckoned with. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Writing should be your activity for today as your powers of self expression is very high today which also makes it well to make a few calls and clean up the loose ends of last week. Seminars, home study courses or what have you is favored for today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) It is a good day for making some very large monetary decisions but not a day for gambling or taking any kind of financial risk with either the business funds or the family bank account. Keep Christmas plans down to a mild roar; it is not the gift, but rather the thought that makes people happy. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Daydreaming is sometimes good for helping you plan your way to the top, but the best place not to do it is on the job as it will appear as plain old wool gathering to the boss and could cost you those big strides forward you have been making recently. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your thinking and planning is so down to earth today that it upsets your mate who thinks it would be better to go out and enjoy these few days of joy rather than to sit home and save money. A long talk and a compromise will work. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Reaching an understanding with a child or a teenager is pos- sible today but you will have to work at it. Mutual agreements with your spouse makes the holiday expenses a little easier to bear and to afford. An evening out puts you in a good frame of mind. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) While you do not like to go into debt this is a day when you may need to do so and the stars are right for your success in negotiating with the powers that be and get what you are after. Enjoy some happy closeness with the family tonight. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) No matter what the controversy may be you will find that agreements with others is easy for you to accomplish today. Singles will be making some long range plans for the future, and marrieds will be preparing for the annual holiday sojourn back to the old home place."}, {"response": 1121, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 5, 2000 (22:44)", "body": "December 6, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Have you considered starting a fitness program? Even though it is the holiday season, you might want to start something small. Get out for a walk more often because you need to release some stress. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Does it seem like there is so much to do and you don't know where to start? Understandable - you've got a lot on your plate! Recruit others to help you finish some of this work. You can't do this all on your own. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A call from a person in your past will knock you off kilter. You'll be able to keep your cool in a stressful situation. Put it in perspective -- you know you needed to clear up some misunderstandings. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You'll be traveling on a short journey today. Make sure your car is working well and you have a spare tire. You might be traveling a rough road, literally and figuratively. Keep your sense of humor will let you get you through any situation."}, {"response": 1122, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (00:47)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday December 6, 2000 Playing the Game: She is a pretty, young California girl who enjoys playing the game. The game is tennis. She has earned millions of dollars playing the game. She has championship form, experts opine that she'll be a blazing star in the not-so-distance future. Lindsay Davenport is a Gemini who is articulate, fast on the draw, especially when it comes to playing the game of tennis. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Moon in your sign equates to high cycle. Focus on social activities and elements of luck. You will be at the right place at a crucial moment almost effortlessly. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Look behind scenes, check details, rebuild and rewrite. Visit individual temporarily confined to home, hospital. Secret will be revealed to your advantage. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You will win friends, popularity zooms. Written material once rejected will now be enthusiastically accepted. Virgo, another Gemini play roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Attention revolves around home, family, possible change of residence, marital status. Flowers, music figure prominently. Romance is part of scenario. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): What appears to be daydreaming is nothing of the sort. You are envisioning future success and can make it come true. Pisces individual plays outstanding role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Check accounting procedures. Relationship is hot and heavy. You win promotion, can handle added responsibility. Cancer, Capricorn persons play intricate roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Look beyond the immediate, perceive potential. Love relationship intensifies. Possibility of long journey is strong. Aries and another Libra figure in scenario. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Let go of preconceived notions. This is your future to make. Focus on independence, inventiveness and original thinking. New kind of love is on horizon. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Creative juices stir, questions concerning marriage loom large. Emphasis on direction, motivation, necessity for meditation. Cancer native plays top role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Social activities accelerate, popularity zooms. Keep plans flexible, be ready to travel at moment's notice. Gemini, Sagittarius individuals are in picture. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Relative who is sincere could be sincerely misinformed. Do things your way, including rebuilding, rewriting. Taurus, Scorpio persons edge way into scenario. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Scenario features change, travel, variety of experiences. What began as mild flirtation is getting serious. Gain indicated via written word. Virgo represented. IF DECEMBER 6 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are ultra-sensitive concerning sound. People find sound of your voice pleasing. You are creative, romantic. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play meaningful roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. Short journey during December. Most memorable month next year will be May. Marital status will figure prominently."}, {"response": 1123, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (08:34)", "body": "Do we have many Cancers around here, how about a birthday page for Spring folks, don't worry, we wouldn't list the year of birth!"}, {"response": 1124, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (12:49)", "body": "You sure do have a Cancerian around here - go check who all is allowed in the workings of Spring and you will see button creator and horizontal bar is our prime Cancer. Have most of the birthdays listed - but some don't want theirs out there. Suggestions where to put them? Mine is May 31."}, {"response": 1125, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (13:15)", "body": "Should I start a topic, or would you like to start a topic (even better) in proch called Today is My Birthday or some other creative topic title?"}, {"response": 1126, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (13:18)", "body": "Liked to Today Conference obviously."}, {"response": 1127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (14:48)", "body": "yup - did you ever see your lei???? Gotta go back to your birthday though.... it is here!!!"}, {"response": 1128, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (17:21)", "body": "I am an Aquarius, not that I really believe any of that sort of stuff any more. Used to be highly obsessed by it when I was younger :-) Birthday is Jan 30."}, {"response": 1129, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (17:34)", "body": "well, a gemini and a virgo will help us, marcia! i know who they are!!! *HUGS*"}, {"response": 1130, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (19:55)", "body": "Wow, thanks for the lei! It looks great!"}, {"response": 1131, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (21:40)", "body": "It smells wonderful too ( you really should get out of telnet more often!) Since I can not telnet lets let you create the topic and link it as you wish. Thanks!!! Yeah, Wolfie, I know too !!! December 7, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today you will find a social connection to be very helpful to your business or your career. Mixing business with pleasure pays off for you today but be sure to put your best foot forward and dress the successful part. Listen to a mate today. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A new romantic involvement could be yours if you get out and mix and mingle today. Don't be a shrinking violet, speak up and let people know what you are all about. A new broom at work sweeps away a lot of debris and leaves you on top of the heap. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Business developments going on behind the scenes are to your advantage so be ready to run with new ideas when they are presented. An unpredictable friend or loved one could get you in a lot of trouble if you don't walk away when the go- ing is right. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your plans for hosting a party are in full swing and today you should take time to look over your gust list of invitations, you may have forgotten someone important. A romantic intro- duction during this will be possible as your tars predict romance if you are a single person. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is a better day for spending time alone with a romantic partner than it is for socializing with a crowd of people. A report you may hear today could be far from accurate so check everything out before acting on it. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Try to be as practical as possible today over an emotionally charged issue involving a loved one, as this is the only way to give a fair evaluation of the situation. Ease up by even- ing and go out and enjoy yourself to be able to let go of the tension that you are under at this time. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Shopping is highlighted for today, both Christmas shopping and buying for the home for decorating purposes. This is a fun act- ivity for you and you find yourself getting right into the spirit of the thing! Being innovative at work will lead to some financial gains. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Creative interests are your thing today as you get into the part of Christmas you enjoy most, making gifts for family and friends! Your handicrafts are always well received and well loved and today you outdo even yourself. One of your creations could become a source of income in months to come. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your social abilities will be evident today as the office party takes place. The social graces you display will be a big asset to your business as an unexpected guest drops in and 'crashes' the party. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Travel or work plans may be drastically changed today and later you will find the change was all for the best. Romance is happily accented today as the one person in the world for you tells you that your love is returned. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Financial backing that you have been searching for to get your enterprise up and running is found today in the strangest place. Try to spend a whole day and night without being critical with a love and you may even make it a habit and make your loved one very happy. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Collaborating with a partner or a coworker can prove greatly beneficial for you today. Social interests are favored even though there may exist a little strain between you and a good friend who will not see eye to eye with you on certain matters."}, {"response": 1132, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (21:49)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday December 7, 2000 Michael J. Fox: He is a young Gemini actor whose career appeared to be cut short when he was stricken with Parkinson's disease. Michael J. Fox has been striving to fight the disease and to obtain funding so that the fight can be most effective. He said, ``I want to give hope to everyone who has been stricken with Parkinson's'' He continues to make appearances, his popularity has not waned. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You have not forgotten the significance of this day -- Pearl Harbor Day. Study of history will be rewarding for you. You are always willing to fight if cause is right. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Answers are found behind scenes. Read and write, learn by teaching. Relationship serious. Could lead to change of marital status. Sagittarius is in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): What seemed to be defeat will boomerang in your favor. Beautify home surroundings, emphasis on music, sound of your voice. Domestic adjustment is necessary. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Focus on romance, defining terms, outlining boundaries. Living quarters will be more secure. Pisces, Virgo persons play astonishing roles. Luck with number 7. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Nothing occurs halfway -- it is all or nothing. Focus on architecture, rebuilding, making clear your marriage intentions. Cancer, Capricorn play major roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): What goes around comes around -- you will know that for sure. Get rid of burden not yours in first place. Plan ahead or journey overseas. Aries involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Make fresh start, shake-off emotional lethargy. Happiness will be involved in different kind of love. Person who usually disagrees with you will be on your side. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Focus on cooperative efforts, City Hall politics, and marital status. You will be comfortable with Cancer native who prepares superb dinner. Be sure of directions. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Element of luck rides with you, especially if you stick with number 3. Moon position stirs creative juices. You could win contest. Gemini involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): What was lost will be retrieved. Rewrite, rebuild, and take chance on romance. Be aware of details, measurements, and solidity of structure. Scorpio involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Emphasis on writing, communicating, accommodating relative on short trip. Flirtation serious, protect self in emotional clinches. Virgo, Sagittarius figure prominently. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Attention revolves around family relationships. In dispute, make intelligent concession. Be diplomatic, flowers would be appropriate. Libra represented. IF DECEMBER 7 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are sensitive to degree of being psychic. You tend only to see the best of people, be sure they are worthy. Pisces persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: G, P, Y. Before December is finished you could change residence, marital status. During 2001, April will be your most creative, romantic, profitable month."}, {"response": 1133, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 7, 2000 (07:34)", "body": "Win contest? Time to buy a lottery ticket?"}, {"response": 1134, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Dec 7, 2000 (20:49)", "body": "i'd say so, terry! (hi marcia!! *HUGS*)"}, {"response": 1135, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 8, 2000 (00:26)", "body": "Wolfie!!! *Big Hugs* December 8, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A planned weekend get away is especially favored now as it will afford you a change for even more closeness with the family. Romance is indicated for the eligible today. Meet with financial advisors or bank loan officers as any meeting of this type will fare well today. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Your networking efforts will get you some connections that will prove beneficial to your business today. Take care you do not overuse any one of them and defeat your purpose. Matters you left undone from yesterday will prove to be a problem that will keep popping up until you take care of them. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Take care that you do not go overboard in spending on the party you are planning to give, keep it down to a mild roar. It is a great day for matters of the heart and for all relationships in general as you and others just seem to click today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Don't put off performing your obligations today without any qrousing about it and throughly impress someone close to you who has chosen you as a role model. Romantic encounters are a good probability for the evening hours if you play your cards right. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You will be extra aggressive now but better able to channel that push in a constructive manner which will make you seem all the more charming to the opposite sex. On this day fil- led with promise, travel is a good possibility for expand- ing your horizons. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Taking a shopping trip is something you look forward to today but you must be careful to curb any undue spending for unneces- sary things. A party at home is something you have looked for- ward too for sometime and with your abilities, it comes off as a big success. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Creating things for the holidays for friends and loved ones is keeping you much busier than any other year. Consider selling your services to all but close friends and family and be rewarded for all that hard work. Others are taking advantage of your good nature. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) An exciting incidence makes you feel so good and supplies you with that extra motivation that will insure you success in your endeavors, both business and personal, that you find yourself overflowing with good will towards everyone. Love catches your attention. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Weekend getaways and many different fun type things are all highlighted and part of your thoughts as you plan your week- end activities. Some difficulty in communicating your ideas at work may arise but you soon get back on track. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) In business today you combine charm and assertiveness to bowl over your opposition and have them eating out of your hand. Marital affairs may give you some bad moments but love sees you through to the reconciliation of ideas necessary to keep things together. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Haven't met the new in laws to be? This is an excellent weekend to plan a trip to see them and get acquainted as they will be family for a long time to come. Partnership interests are high- lighted today and you may have to make some major concessions to keep the business running on an even keel. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your intuition and natural initiative will stand you in good favor with those who count in furthering your career or busi- ness goals. This is the time to make what known to the people who need to know, even in romance...a good night to pop the question."}, {"response": 1136, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 8, 2000 (00:32)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday December 8, 2000 Lest We Forget: He died recently at the age of 66. However, during his lifetime he was regarded as a master musician. Stanley Turrentine was an Aries. He played tenor saxophone. Many qualities of his Aries sign came through his music: originality, tone, daring to reach higher and higher. Those who take seriously jazz, tenor sax, remember Stanley Turrentine. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Give full play to creativity, style and willingness to take chance on romance. Lost article will be recovered, you find ways of increasing income. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Attention revolves around home, family, willingness to fight if cause is right. Moon in your sign highlights personality, timing, sex appeal. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Define terms, outline boundaries, be realistic in judging people, relationships. Protect self in emotional clinches. Don't judge book only its cover. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Focus on promotion, production and unique ways of distribution. You could be part of high finance transaction. Capricorn, another Cancer-born play roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You will flirt with fame and fortune. Expand horizons, find representative for your produce in distant land. Advertise, publicize. Number 9\ufffd VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Let go of preconceived notions. Focus on future, independence, creativity, pioneering spirit. Wear bright colors, make personal appearances. Leo plays role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Family differences settled, involves generosity, extravagance. Focus on direction, motivation and necessity for meditation. Cancer native figures in scenario. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You'll be told to lighten up. Follow advice, exercise versatility and humor. Popularity zooms, your opinions sought concerning politics. Sagittarius in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Be positive concerning correct measurements. Repair work is necessary. You get credit long overdue. Prove that you can fix things. Taurus represented. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Find outlet for creative resources. Read and write, teach and learn. Take note of dreams, flirtation more serious than expected. Virgo figures prominently. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Locate comfortable living quarters. Focus on romance, flowers and music. Family member consults you regarding business, career. Be understanding, not weak. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You get in and out of tight spots. You might be repeating these words, ``To the victor goes the spoils.'' What you have been waiting for will arrive tonight. IF DECEMBER 8 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: When pressure is on you are up to it. You enjoy travel, are intense in romance. You could become business executive. Capricorn, Cancer persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. This December, perfect techniques, streamline procedures. Next year emphasis will be on change, variety and serious relationship."}, {"response": 1137, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 8, 2000 (00:37)", "body": "December 8, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Return calls today because you'll receive some important news. A client has a proposition for you. It will definitely be to your advantage so follow through on requests so you can reap the rewards. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Make sure to have all your facts straight before you accuse someone of handling a situation incorrectly. Do some detective work to solidify your argument. Even though your suspicions are correct, you need the facts to back you up. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may be surprised where you have to travel to on such short notice. Don't put up much of a fight, you really need to do this. Consider it an adventure -- you're going to learn a lot. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Have you been shopping lately? While you spend more than you bargained for, it's okay. An unexpected financial situation will bring pleasant surprises. Make sure to hold on to all your receipts -- something might not work out well and you'll be in the return line!"}, {"response": 1138, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 11, 2000 (14:04)", "body": "December 11, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today your career plans will progress nicely with some firm promises for the new year. A close one may be very sensitive today so be sure you are careful not to make disparaging remarks even if you feel they are necessary. Love, don't criticize. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Someone entrusts you with a personal confidence and you keep their secret. Doing some of your Christmas shopping in your local computer store will be a lot of fun for you, but if you are a newbe then be sure that you let the salesperson help you out. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Enjoy your socializing today as a behind the scenes plan that has been working for your benefit will become apparent while in attendance at one such event. Friends may have a lot of suggestions regarding holiday activities and you could pick up some good ideas by listening. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You who are attracted by unusual things will find an unusual item that is just right for your home and indulge yourself with the purchase. Business matters should go well today as you have more than your usual amount of intuitiveness which will guide you. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Devoting time to a pet project should not take precedence over social commitments today as there will be plenty of time to get these things done before Christmas if you set aside an hour a day strictly for your project. A new closeness with a spouse makes this an excellent season. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Aggravations on the job as well as at home is more than possible today as the calm peace of the morning gives way to a hectic few hours of the afternoon. By evening you will have been able to calm your world back down. Take the family out to dinner at a nice quiet place. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Solving your marital disputes is uppermost in your mind today as you strive to bring stability and peace to your surroundings. Sometimes this is possible and other times not; you will be able to discern the difference as your insights will be right on target today. Try compromise. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) It is being a little premature to blow a lot of money in pursuit of a good time since the season of good times and invitations are here. Less drink and more socializing is just the ticket to get a certain person interested in you. That person is not going to be interested in someone who drinks to excess. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Following up on a remark that a coworker makes will turn the conversation into an argument and ruin a day that holds much promise for your career interests. It would be best to just bite your tongue today, another opportunity will soon present itself. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your esp will be invaluable to you today in all your dealings but especially so in the arena of finance. A crafty type of individual will try to take advantage of your good nature today; be on the lookout for this sly boots. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Any financial dealings you have today should be in your favor, especially with brokers and bankers. Shrewd thinking will be the agent to get you where you want to be today. A more than usual closeness will be experienced with a spouse. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This a good day to finalize your travel plans for the holidays. If you must stay in a motel be sure you make your reservations well ahead so you don't wind up in the cold with no place to stay. Good news about contractual matters is possible today."}, {"response": 1139, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 11, 2000 (14:06)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday December 11, 2000 The Little Flower: He was one of the most popular mayors of New York. Were he alive, this Sagittarian would be celebrating his birthday today. Fiorello La Guardia spoke in Italian when addressing an Italian audience. He said of himself: ``When I make a mistake, it's a beaut.'' The Little Flower! ARIES (March 21-April 19): Full Moon warns: Be careful in traffic. Nothing occurs halfway -- steer clear of crowds if possible. Capricorn, Cancer persons play controversial roles. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Financial burden lifted -- you'll feel free, happy as result. Open lines of communication, someone wants to tell you something. Libra figures prominently. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Full moon in your sign equates to high cycle. Love relationship could get too hot to cool down. Leo involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your kind of day. Focus on home, family, giving and receiving affection. Living quarters will be made more comfortable. Capricorn plays fascinating role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Accent diversity, intelligence, and versatility. Make people laugh by laughing at your own foibles. Social outing will result in valuable contacts. Sagittarius involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Check details, measurements might not be exact. Line up priorities. Don't take back seat. Taurus, Scorpio persons will play major roles. You're a new person. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Get in your own rhythm, dance to your own tune. Read and write, learn by teaching. Flirtation more serious than expected. Gemini, Virgo persons play hot roles. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You could be talk of the town. Attend to family matters; locate house or apartment that suits you. You exude sex appeal -- don't break too many hearts! SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): What appeared to be a setback will boomerang in your favor. Focus on marital status, necessity for making domestic adjustment. Pisces represented. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Your kind of day. Pressure is on; you will be up to it. Focus on organization, distribution, and financial reward. Cancer and another Capricorn play sensational roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Finish what you start, obtain funding for exciting project. Individuals confide their most intimate problems. Don't blush just help. Aries in picture. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Make fresh start, emphasize original thinking. Many, including family members, claim you are going too fast. Imprint style, don't follow others. IF DECEMBER 11 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have experienced change of your name. You are fascinated by the mantic arts, including astrology. Your intuition is honed to razor sharpness. Capricorn, Cancer persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Before December is finished, you will experience a different kind of love. September most memorable for next year."}, {"response": 1140, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 11, 2000 (19:46)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday December 12, 2000 Maxim Gorky: He was a colorful, controversial Pisces writer. Most of his work was autobiographical. Maxim Gorky was widely read not only in Russia, his homeland, but also throughout the world. People ask what was so special about Gorky? He spoke from the heart, relating incidents in his fascinating life. Currently, there's a revival of interest in his writings. ARIES (March 21-April 19): You get settled. You'll be rid of burden you should not have carried in first place. You will be dealing with a individual from a foreign land. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Make fresh start in new direction. Cancer native helps in locating living quarters. Marital status will be questioned. Leo in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Questions of partnership, marital status loom large. You receive proposals, business, career, and marriage. Direction will be determined. Capricorn involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Moon in your sign represents high cycle. Judgment, intuition will be valid. Don't be afraid to try something different. You will be well-loved. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Be aware of fine print. Look behind scenes, someone may be following you. Taurus, Scorpio persons will play meaningful roles. Correct mathematical errors. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Scenario highlights necessity for keeping plans flexible. Flirtation serious, whether or not you admit it. Trip out of town may be necessary. Gemini represented. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Attention revolves around where you live and with whom. Focus on possible change of residence, marital status. Music plays; dance to your own tune. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Someone means to deceive you. Don't give them that satisfaction. Psychic impression proves accurate. See people, relationships in realistic light. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): You asked for more responsibility and now you get it. You are overdue for promotion; you will have it. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): People talk about you, mostly in favorable manner. Time on your side, play waiting game. Marital status figures prominently -- don't duck basic issues. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You might be wondering if this is deja vu. Scenario features familiar places, faces. Make new start; take charge of your destiny. People besiege you for predictions. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): You are back on familiar ground. Family pulled you in one direction; special person wants you in another. Scenario features children, challenge, variety of experiences. IF DECEMBER 12 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have delightful sense of humor, possess intellectual curiosity. Important to keep resolutions concerning exercise, diet, nutrition. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. During January of 2001, you could be talk of the town. Emphasis next year in marital status -- most memorable months: March and December."}, {"response": 1141, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (09:43)", "body": "must be talking about you marcia, sweetie! i don't think anyone's gonna propose to me *smile*"}, {"response": 1142, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (12:10)", "body": "*Sigh* I noticed that ... And knew you would make a comment. December 12, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn What you thought was true has now been proven otherwise. You'll notice you have to adjust to this but it will be good for you. You are the Master of your own destiny -- take charge of what's going on! FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Be open to working with a woman who you haven't had much interaction with recently. Her reputation is worse than she really is so keep an open mind. Ask a Taurus to help you with this transition. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A financial situation is going to come to an end. This may be a slight struggle for you for a while but keep a positive attitude. This might be a good day for you to spend some time alone so you can figure out where you're going next. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You have a lot of fear surrounding a relationship. This isn't good because you can't move on to something better. Take care of yourself -- you're going through a tough emotional time and you're wearing yourself down."}, {"response": 1143, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (12:11)", "body": "December 12, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You have the jump on everybody as you completed all your Christmas shopping and wrapping. Now you will have the time to spend on shop- ping for just the right outfit and accessories for wearing to that extra special Christmas party. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A great time to get in contact with someone you have not spoken to for almost a year. You will find that all your efforts actually did help this person create a new and better life for himself or herself and this is one of the greatest gifts you could receive. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Social events may have your head in a whirl so maybe taking a quiet break by disappearing in a store or a shopping mall for most of the day will give you the time you need to restore your equilibrium and your holiday spirit. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Decorate your house for Christmas today and get all your shopping chores caught up with as you will have some early seasons visitors who was not due until Christmas eve! This makes you happy but you want to be finished so you can spend some happy time with them. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Counting down to Christmas has you in a flurry of activity as you juggle shopping trips and social invitation in your typical style. Don't let a so called friend get you down today with her pessimis- tic outlook on everything in general, avoid this person if possible. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) The Christmas vacation kicks your Christmas season off with a flourish as you make plans to visit your home town and spend most of the day shopping for the family. Your reception will be wonderful so why not go a few days ahead of time so you will be well rested for the big day. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Planning a short trip for pleasure will be a lot of fun for you this weekend and you and the spouse get together in agreement on all facets of the trip. While this trip will be for gambling, you always manage to keep it down to a mild roar and not lose too much. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You are the life of the office party today and you keep everyone laughing right up to quitting time. Hiding your feelings is not easy to do but you manage it admirably until a loved one finds you out and decides to help you solve a nagging problem that has bogged down your holiday spirit. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Running back into your shell today will cause you to miss out on a lot of fun that will not come your way again this holiday season. Loosen up and go with the flow of the crowd, enjoy your- self for a change. Children should be taken shopping and taught to buy for others and not just themselves. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A bad temper could land you in some heavy duty domestic strife if you are not careful. Chances are good that your spouse is one who will push back and compromise can be the only reasonable route to follow. Give each other some breathing space. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Getting bullheaded today will not pay off for you in the long run as you will need to show a little understanding with a whole lot of 'give' today. Discuss the trip the family wishes to take; you may find out it is just what you would like also. PISCES Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Spend some midnight hours in marketing efforts if you would see some positive results on your web business after the holidays. Don't get so deep into work that others will feel neglected, set aside some time for your loved ones to enjoy being with you."}, {"response": 1144, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (16:58)", "body": "how about laying in bed for two days with the louisiana crud? social activities do have my head in a whirl!! *HUGS* to marcia!!!"}, {"response": 1145, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (16:59)", "body": "wait, make that four days, i've been out of work for two days (can you believe they sent me home?)"}, {"response": 1146, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (22:44)", "body": "Did not know The Man ever sent anyone home!!! December 13, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn While someone may have some good suggestions for you, keep your guard up. Keep in mind this person is working for their own benefit and not necessarily yours. Ask a lot of questions to make sure their suggestions are within not only standard policy but your own morality. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Someone you know is playing both sides against the middle. Before you condemn this person, look at what their motivation is for doing this. You might be able to nip it in the bud if you take the time to speak with this person. They only want something small to you but really big to them. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A friendship is going to go through a huge change. Don't fight it -- let it play out the way it's supposed to. You'll be feeling very emotional so cut yourself some slack. It will all turn out for the best. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A childlike person makes you laugh and brings you a lot of joy. Even though this takes some time out of your day, you should stop and enjoy your time with this person. Have some faith -- the angels will delegate your work while you enjoy this time."}, {"response": 1147, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (22:48)", "body": "*BIG HEALING HUGS*, WOLFIE!!!"}, {"response": 1148, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (00:49)", "body": "December 13, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) No matter what the controversy may be you will find that agree- ments with others is easy for you to accomplish today. Singles will be making some long range plans for the future, and marrieds will be preparing for the annual holiday sojourn back to the old home place. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) While you do not like to go into debt this is a day when you may need to do so and the stars are right for your success in negotiating with the powers that be and get what you are after. Enjoy some happy closeness with the family tonight. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Reaching an understanding with a child or a teenager is possible today but you will have to work at it. Mutual agreements with your spouse makes the holiday expenses a little easier to bear and to afford. An evening out puts you in a good frame of mind. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your thinking and planning is so down to earth today that it up- sets your mate who thinks it would be better to go out and enjoy these few days of joy rather than to sit home and save money. A long talk and a compromise will work. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Daydreaming is sometimes good for helping you plan your way to the top, but the best place not to do it is on the job as it will appear as plain old wool gathering to the boss and could cost you those big strides forward you have been making re- cently. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) It is a good day for making some very large monetary decisions but not a day for gambling or taking any kind of financial risk with either the business funds or the family bank account. Keep Christmas plans down to a mild roar; it is not the gift, but rather the thought that makes people happy. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Writing should be your activity for today as your powers of self expression is very high today which also makes it well to make a few calls and clean up the loose ends of last week. Seminars, home study courses or what have you is favored for today. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Taking time to meditate on some purely personal problems is indicated for today as well as the pursuit of more mental interests. Your esp is clicking and this makes you quick on the uptake in most situations; you are a force to be reckoned with. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Conversation with a good friend could bring on a lot of exchange of secrets...be sure you don't tell too much or someone elses' confidences. This is not a good day for gambling or even loaning money; guard your finances. Pay attention to a child tonight. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Devoting a lot of time today to study or to research will be of great benefit to you in the near future. Be optimistic and up- beat about your business affairs as you are entering a new cycle that will allow you much more flexibility which can bring bigger successes. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Listen carefully to a suggestion from a friend today on ways to make your business grow; you could come up with something great. Do not listen to rumors no matter how much you may feel upset by them, always give the other person a chance to explain. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This is a good day for making presentations at work and to talk one on one with business higher ups and peers alike. You can get your points across with a lot more clarity at this time. Take care of old bills that may crop up today so they don't hang around and haunt your holidays."}, {"response": 1149, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 13, 2000 (14:17)", "body": "(the man lets people go home so he won't catch anything catchy!) got a timely horoscope at iwon.com and it said that i should quit playing the game (can only imagine what game they're talking about)....maybe i should vent again? thanks for those healing hugs, they're working *HUGS*"}, {"response": 1150, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 15, 2000 (13:17)", "body": "December 15, 2000 ARIES (March 21-April 19): You're comfortable in discussing new and perhaps strange ideas with your friends. Travel plans are firming up, and you're feeling thrilled about it. A fresh outlook makes the future look promising. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You defer to others, going out of your way to be of service. You may not understand this now, but you're not in touch with your own will. Keep asking yourself whether you're doing what you really want to do. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your enthusiasm about your intellectual interests is infective today. You're willing to re-think many things and revise your approach. You're instrumental in intro- ducing people to exciting new ideas. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Obeying others grates on your nerves, but use the circumstance to your own advantage. Somewhere -- possibly through pay -- you can get what you want and set it aside as an asset for future independence. LEO (July 23-August 22): Many important relationships, business, spousal and romantic, are getting overhauled in a new way. It's possible to get a fresh start with enemies by letting bygones be bygones. VIRGO (August 23-September 22): It's no personality fault to keep changing your mind, as long as you know what's unsatis- factory with the way things are. Being mindful that way will help you decide what you really want. LIBRA (September 23-October 22): You can be in a position of making decisions, but you have to do right by the people for whom you're making decisions. Don't be reckless with their fate and fortune. They're not your toys. SCORPIO (October 23-November 21): Make the best of a difficult situation by understanding that you're being trained to work well under pressure. Once you can handle this, most other situations will seem easier. SAGITTARIUS (November 22-December 21): Intense conversation helps you to bounce ideas off people for valuable feedback. In a way, you've probably already made up your mind, and you need help to articulate what you feel and know. CAPRICORN (December 22-January 19): The need to establish a sense of security for yourself and loved ones is strong today. A lot of work, not mushy romanticism, is your way of showing you care on a practical level. AQUARIUS (January 20-February 18): Your secret of success is knowing what everyone else is doing and then doing the op- posite. Find a niche that no one else is providing. Only your inspiration and inventiveness can guide you. PISCES (February 19-March 20): Your success is measured by how many friends you can rally, and how effective you can get support from those in charge. The unexpected defense turns the tables on those who would harm you."}, {"response": 1151, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 15, 2000 (13:29)", "body": "Decembber 15, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A woman who handles finances is going to be talking to you today. While this situation could potentially blow up into an argument, keep your cool. Her anxiousness has nothing to do with you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You find yourself in the middle of a hectic situation. You're being dragged into it as the peacemaker. Just go with the flow -- it will blow over very soon. It's okay to let people vent because that's all that needs to be done. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A woman is going to give you some thoughts on a troubling personal situation in your life. This brings a whole new awareness to you about how you should approach things from here on out. Thank her for her advice -- she really has changed your outlook for the better. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces There is a way to end a bad financial situation. You can take the high or low road -- the choice is yours. It might be best to keep your head up high and end it with dignity. If you do this, you'll have another possibility come in your path quickly."}, {"response": 1152, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 15, 2000 (13:32)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday December 15, 2000 Cameron Crowe: He could be dubbed ``Mister Everything.'' He is a 43-year-old Cancer native, who is writer, director, and filmmaker. He maintains a boyish look, and he writes and makes pictures concerning young persons, their lives, loves, disappointments. He explains, ``I am not the kind of director who is harsh, dictatorial. Cameron Crowe elucidates, ``To be that way I would have to be a different person.'' ARIES (March 21-April 19): Focus on creativity, romance, and celebration. Display humor, versatility, mingled with showmanship. Let people know you are alive and kicking. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Obstacles boil down to bureaucrats, minor rules, regulations. Plow through them -- many will not debate you. They are afraid. Scorpio plays major role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Highlight versatility, diversity and writing. Creative juices stir, get thoughts, impressions on paper. You could surprise yourself, develop writing skills. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Spend money on home improvements. Domestic issues dominate. You could change residence, marital status. Find your rhythm, dance to your own tune. Libra represented. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Cycle high, make contacts, appointments. Don't equate delay with defeat. Maintain aura of mystery. You will be at right place at crucial moment. Pisces involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Be analytical, focus on production, distribution, promotion, added responsibility. Some people will say you were never like this before. Capricorn in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You could be talk of the town. Focus on universal appeal, travel, and communication with one from foreign country. Physical attraction, sex appeal involved. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Make fresh start, let go of preconceived notions. Don't follow others, emphasize original thinking, and take chance on romance. Leo plays top role. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Focus on home, marital status. Tonight you dream of long ago and far away. Emphasis on creativity, romance, advertising. Cancer, Capricorn involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Emerge from emotional shell, display humor, artistic talent. Let others know you are more than one-sided. Gemini, Sagittarius figure in scenario. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You'll ask, ``Is this deja vu?'' Scenario features familiar places, faces. You receive attractive offer, don't let it slip by. Taurus, Scorpio involved. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Creative juices stir, keep plans flexible, flirtation is getting hot and heavy. Protect self in emotional clinches. Investigate, get at truth. Virgo featured. IF DECEMBER 15 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are no stranger to music. You also are diplomatic, willing to give others benefit of doubt. You are romantic, have told yourself, ``I cannot live without love.'' Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. In 2001, social life accelerates, you will travel. During May there will be romance, intense relationship."}, {"response": 1153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 16, 2000 (12:35)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday December 16, 2000 Ludwig van Beethoven: The greatest orchestral composer of all time, Ludwig van Beethoven was a Sagittarius. He had a hearing problem. During his farewell appearance, he could not hear the orchestra or the applause. Beethoven was temperamental, emotional. He was often in love but never married. He was moody, sensitive to the degree of being psychic. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Don't neglect details, be sensitive to subtle hints. Rewrite, review, rebuild. Check for correct measurements. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio play roles. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): You experience greater freedom of thought, action. Virgo moon in your Fifth House stirs creative juices. Your voice, music requires outlet. Sing freely. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): If single, you could encounter future mate. Emphasis on home, persona, environment, possible change of residence, marital status. Libra involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Define terms, don't equate delay with defeat. Relative makes surprise appearance, be gracious. Maintain aura of mystery, intrigue. Pisces represented. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Financial success featured. Focus on power play, upsetting the odds. Older individual expresses faith in you. Cancer, Capricorn persons play memorable roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Cycle is such that you are in right place at crucial moment. Take initiative; don't follow others. Utilize your extra-sensory perception. Aries is in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Make fresh start, don't pull punches. Wear shades of blue; don't neglect yellow and gold. A new, exciting love is on horizon. Avoid heavy lifting if possible. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Spotlight on comfortable living. Question of marital status looms large. Protect self at close quarters -- don't give up something of value. Capricorn represented. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Your kind of day. Spotlight on versatility, humor, and experimentation. Try on new wardrobe. You look great and will be told so. Shake off emotional lethargy. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): People say you are full of Surprises. You will be dealing with ambitious Scorpio, be careful but polite. Taurus also involved. You'll rebuild, rewrite, and review. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): What you have been waiting for arrives by tonight. Manuscript once rejected will be accepted. Take note of dreams. Write impressions of places and people. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Your voice sounds different, better. Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership, and marriage. You will find more comfortable living quarters. Taurus plays role. IF DECEMBER 16 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are sensitive, creative, at times temperamental. You refuse to become prisoner of mediocrity. You have musical talent, even if hidden. Pisces, Virgo persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: G, P, Y. Social contacts made during year will prove valuable, could lead to travel. April outstanding for you next year."}, {"response": 1154, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 17, 2000 (13:48)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday December 17, 2000 Andre Bishop: He is a Scorpio, the artistic director of Lincoln Center Theater in New York, home of the Tony award-winning ``TomCat.'' He says, ``The theater is my whole life, but to start with I was afraid to knock on the door.'' He explains, ``I was always fascinated by the theater -- the first show I saw was 'Peter Pan' starring Mary Martin.'' He lives in Manhattan. Andre Bishop, a Scorpio to remember. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Be analytical, obtain story behind the story. Flirtation more serious than anticipated. Get basic issues settled early. Virgo plays a dynamic role. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Attention revolves around making home beautiful. Focus on flowers, music and romance. If diplomatic, you win. By forcing issues, you lose. Libra involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Don't believe everything you hear. Get promises in writing. Avoid self-deception. Sale or purchase of property featured. Pisces plays complicated role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Steer clear of traffic jams, avoid crowds if possible. People tend to want something for nothing from you. Focus on promotion, production and distribution. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Emphasis on participation in international project. What had been rejected will now be enthusiastically accepted. You will recover lost valuables. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Cycle high, make fresh start, toss aside preconceived notions. Don't follow others. Wear bright colors, including yellow and gold. Leo plays fantastic role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Focus on cooperative efforts, City Hall politics, partnership and marriage. Someone follows you but means no harm. Face music early. Maintain aura of mystery. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You could be talk of the town. Scenario features accelerated social activity. You win friends and influence people. Powers of persuasion are heightened. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Revise, rewrite and rebuild. Superior consults you, assures of promotion. Check details, be sure measurements fit. Sound system is involved. Taurus featured. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You enjoy greater freedom of thought, action. Invitation to travel featured. It could involve foreign land, don't be frightened. Gemini figures prominently. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Fix things at home, you soon will be receiving an important guest. Spotlight on possible change of residence, martial status. Libra helps with essentials. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Don't tell all. Lie low, play waiting game. Legal affairs, marital status dominate. Someone attempts to fool you. Protect self in emotional clinches. IF DECEMBER 17TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: When pressure is on, you are up to it. You are intense, passionate and have natural executive ability. Capricorn, Cancer persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. Before December is finished you will solve a mystery. Next year emphasis will be on travel, romance and writing skills. Memorable months in 2001 will be March and December."}, {"response": 1155, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Dec 17, 2000 (18:21)", "body": "that horroscope is kinda scary---the AM just told me (he is pisces) that he was going to give me my christmas present early but he has to find out if it's come in yet."}, {"response": 1156, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (01:11)", "body": "*Hugs* Wolfie - fortunately no Pisces in my life. I got mine early - a Gallileo thermometer... more about it in Geo! This one below is for me... December 18 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Your stress level is high but don't let it get the best of you. You are creating the stress on your own -- no one is pressuring you. Tackle the issue piece by piece and you'll get it all done. Ask a Gemini for help -- they can show you a new shortcut. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You have some wonderful career opportunities ahead of you but you are scared. Clinging to the past is not going to help you move forward. You have a great support system behind you. Listen to that Leo - they're not wrong! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Slow down -- you're moving too fast! You haven't been feeling very creative lately and that's because you don't have time to be. Make sure to take care of yourself so you don't run yourself down. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You're upset because someone hasn't returned a valuable item to you. It's tough when someone breaks their promise but at least now you know how this person really is. Let it go -- you can always replace it."}, {"response": 1157, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (01:12)", "body": "December 18 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This will be a day filled with activity and your feet will tell you so! Try to delegate some of the work and the cooking to younger, stronger hands and backs. The whole family would like to help but feel like you should ask since it is your 'territory'. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) As your Christmas wedding gets closer you are beginning to have some doubts and second thoughts. If the thoughts make logical sense than by all means act on them, if not, forget it as you may simply have a case of the wedding jitters that gives you cold feet. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) An adult child may not be making some good decisions right now but you will not be able to sway him/or her from the chosen path. It is at these times that we know there are some mistakes a person HAS to make for themselves. Be supportive and ready to help. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A big disappointment handed to you last night could be the basis of your feelings for today if you let it. These things are trans- itory and will pass. The object of your affection will be return- ing in a few days and you can celebrate then. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Don't get strung out and angry today if things don't go to suit you, there are more enjoyable ways to spend the day than quar- reling and when done together, the quarrels just seem to melt away. Drive around the city and countryside for an enjoyable evening of seeing all the decorations. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Work progresses smoothly today and it is possible that your bonus is a substantial one which will solve all of your holiday problems without a bill hanging over you in January. Children may wish to visit Santa tonight and you take them to see him. Get the camera, this is memories in the making. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Even though it looks as if you will have to be away from home for the holidays due to work related matters, you can still keep in touch by email or telephone. Don't forget to bring everyone a nice Christmas gift when you return. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Having your plans changed for the holidays may not sit too well with you and it could make you go around roaring like the lion you are but that will avail you nothing. Try compromising with your spouse and salvage at least half of your original plans. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Getting it all together and having your shopping done is some- thing you have looked forward too so now you can sit back and relax...for about ten minutes! Unexpected callers inform you they will be arriving in a day or two and you are off on another mad dash of activity. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You are doing the work of two so why not combine your planning and working for Christmas dinner with the one you are helping to plan for the local senior citizens? You and the family could have dinner with them and perhaps teach the children the joys of helping those less fortunate. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) The countdown to arrivals starts today and you put the shoulder to the wheel for that final push of getting ready for everyone. Despite the work you are looking forward to all of it. A close member of the family may be having some trouble in the romantic area and you give some good advice. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) An upsetting person may begin to get to you by midmorning until you stop and think about it. There is a possibility that this fellow is having a rough time getting through the holiday depression. Shock him by acting understanding and friendly."}, {"response": 1158, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (01:41)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday December 18, 2000 Ty Cobb: He was considered rough and tough, knew his stuff when it came to baseball. He had a lifetime batting average of .367, compiled over 24 years. During that time he played in more than 3,000 games -- a Sagittarian in the Hall of Fame. He slept with a pistol under his pillow. Ty Cobb was a stranger to diplomacy. He died in 1961. He was 75. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Go slow, play waiting game. Become familiar with legal ramifications. Partnership requires review. Question of marital status looms large. Libra involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Obtain hint from Aries message. Go slow, time on your side. Employment picture puzzling. Find out where you stand and why. Pisces will tell all. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You've waited for this -- take cold plunge into opportunity. Focus on promotion, direction and intense relationship. Young person asks pertinent questions. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Property transaction completed. Don't be overcome by excessive modesty. Get fair share, line up travel plans. You could encounter future mate. Victory imminent. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Don't follow others. Emphasize independence, original thinking. Short trip involves relative. Steer clear of traffic jams. Aquarian dispels loneliness. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Emphasis on payments, collections and ability to locate lost article. Cycle moves up, circumstances will turn in your favor. Capricorn, Cancer persons play special roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Joyous! You will have much to celebrate, permit yourself to be joyous. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play outstanding roles. Have luck with number 3. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): You win battle against odds. What had been rejected can now be accepted. Make reasonable compromise without giving up principles. Another Scorpio involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 21-Dec. 21): Libra moon in your Eleventh House -- you win friends, influence people. Those who said you would fail will be eating crow. Written word important. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Authorities on your side in connection with property dispute. Make home beautiful. Scenario features where you live, marital status. Find your rhythm. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Look behind scenes, define terms, avoid self-deception. Maintain aura of mystery, intrigue. Long-distance communication verifies your views. Pisces in picture. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Power play. Wait for right time. Focus on proposals, career and marriage. Protect self in emotional clinches. Get promises in writing, someone tries to fool you. IF DECEMBER 18TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Your outlook is universal; you are the opposite of narrow-minded. You could travel to foreign land, possess skill with language. Aries, Libra persons play sensational roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: I and R. Before December is finished you'll be asked to participate in a big transaction. Marital status likely to change in 2001."}, {"response": 1159, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (01:43)", "body": "Focus on intense relationship?! Wolfie, if we do any more than we are now, we ar gonna walk into walls!!!"}, {"response": 1160, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (16:48)", "body": "tell me!! well, the one about us going too fast to be creative is sooooo true. marcia, i have an adjective i'd like to tell you about later!"}, {"response": 1161, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (17:21)", "body": "Ok... I'll be online - just let me know. *gears whirring*"}, {"response": 1162, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (19:52)", "body": "i'm here!! are you?"}, {"response": 1163, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 19, 2000 (17:23)", "body": "Yupper but my MSN crashed and so has Neil's ... Calilfornia rolling blackouts??? Arrrrrgh! Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday December 19, 2000 Chaka Khan: She is a 47-year-old Aries known for her ``racy lyrics''. She says says, ``For me, singing is like a religious experience.'' Although she has not achieved the level of stardom attained by Madonna or Whitney Houston, critics agree that once heard, her unique voice is unforgettable. Chaka Khan owns homes in London and New Jersey. In her spare time she grows herbs. Partnership, marriage featured for Chaka next year. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Don't rush, play waiting game. Legal aspect of project requires verification. Make intelligent concession but don't give up principles. Pisces involved. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Attend to minor health problem so that it does not become major. Scenario features added responsibility, promotion and intense relationship. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look beyond the immediate, toss aside preconceived notions. What others say is impossible will be possible for you! Libra will finish race! CANCER (June 21-July 22): Imprint style, let others follow you. You will be attracted to dynamic Leo. Get promises in writing. Wear bright colors and make personal appearances. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Question of marriage looms large. Clarify directions, motivations. Seafood dinner tonight hits the spot. What had been hidden is revealed to your advantage. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Diversify, look beyond the immediate, emphasize entertainment, humor. People say, ''This is a new you!'' Regard it as compliment. Gemini plays role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): People are talking about you and some issue challenges. Be aware of details, have facts at hand. People want to hear your voice, to be with you. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Read and write, learn by teaching. Flirtation serious, could get too hot not to cool down. Virgo, Sagittarius in picture, don't break too many hearts! SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 21-Dec. 21): What was ''left over'' from yesterday can be successfully utilized tonight. Focus on home appliances, ways of beautifying surroundings. Libra involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You are not ready for full assault! Pertinent facts are yet to be uncovered. At last minute authority figure comes to your aid. Virgo featured. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Focus on distance, language, making dreams come true. You'll be celebrating because of latest invention. Love relationship intense, it is very hot! PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Finish what you start, you could be called upon to participate in international project. Aries, Libra persons will play outstanding roles. Fame beckons. IF DECEMBER 19TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an independent thinker, inventive, creative and romantic. At times you give love to those who don't deserve it. You counter with, ``I cannot live without love!'' Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. Recent domestic adjustment was necessary. January and October of next year will be memorable, productive."}, {"response": 1164, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 19, 2000 (17:36)", "body": "Oh my, Lance is a Libra. How about you Wolfie??? December 19 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Birthdays are special occasions and it would be a great idea if you let your partner have his or her way today (in most things ;-). In the long run it will make everyone happy, especially the birthday boy or girl. Your tongue may get a little sore from biting it but remember, your birthday will come around too! TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A lot of people are very depressed at this time of year and you have the opportunity to cheer some of them up. By all means do so as this will double your own enjoyment of the holidays. Children are old enough to help so get them to pitch in and free up some time. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) This is the time for you to assert yourself and take charge of your life. You have some things coming up in the near future that will demand that you be comfortable with this attitude and there is never a better time to start practic- ing it than now. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A romantic attachment or a solid business partnership could come out of an invitation you accept for tonight to a very large Christmas party. Dress to the nines because you have someone there that, when you see this person, you will WANT to impress. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) The first bug of the season may have bitten you and you are down with a cold. Relax and get better and as you do release the reins of control that you hold so tightly, to empower others to step in and save the season for you and the family. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Some of the advice you receive from a friend or a relative will be the best you ever had. Heed it if you can. Your recent career has you living far away from family but your plans to visit dur- ing the holidays is shaping up nicely. Get ready to travel. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Even though you may feel put out with a sibling you should at least try to put it away for a season and meet in fellowship, forgiving one another with love. It is hard to do but you are a spiritual person who will be able to do this. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) If you take on more work that will mean longer hours and more pay to see you through the holidays, it will also make you look good in front of the boss with everyone else clamoring for time off to make preparations for the coming festivities. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Rolling with the flow is about the only way to go today or the waves could bowl you over. Don't pay any attention to gossip or smear tactics in the workplace as if you do, it could be you they talk about next; stick by your friend. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Someone you have wanted to break up with for a long time finally gives you the ammunition that you need. Don't be afraid to use it because you could be in danger if the situation should turn ugly. Put the one, or ones that can't help themselves, first in your life. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Important financial decisions should wait until after the hubbub of the holiday season has passed and things more or less return to normal. Learning to live and let live and to forgive past mistakes could be the most important thing in your life right now. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A recent project that you completed is just different enough to qualify as unusual and you find that it is turning into a real money maker for you. You have always marched to your own drummer and today that is more obvious than ever as you turn down the others feel is just right for you."}, {"response": 1165, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 19, 2000 (17:37)", "body": "December 19, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Have you call a loved one lately? They are missing you. This is a good day for you to work out old issues and learn the lessons you need to learn. Keep an open mind. Their reasoning for the hurt may surprise you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Happiness is in the air and you feel like celebrating. You're not slacking off at work; it's okay to relax a little today. Listen to your inner voice and attend a party. You'll be in the spotlight because of your playful and happy nature. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You have the choice of how a sticky situation plays out. Everyone knows you are the master in this so they are waiting for you to make a decision. It's time to change things for the better -- you know the actions you need to take. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You realize that you are stronger than you thought you could be. Don't be afraid to tell a Leo how you feel -- you've had enough. This will end any ideas that you can be manipulated anymore."}, {"response": 1166, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 20, 2000 (19:45)", "body": "December 20, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Major career developments for you today as you take a giant step up the corporate ladder of success. Your intuition is high today and this enables you to surprise and please a loved one. Children may need some extra guidance this even- ing and you are equal to this. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A friend is in trouble and you pull out all the stops today as well as going into your own bank account. You may exper- ience problems with appliances or electronics today, be sure to call in an expert to service your valuable equipment. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your intuition leads you to the exact spot, situation, that you need to reach today for optimum input to solving your marital problems. Don't listen to rumors, prove everything out for yourself and that way you will always know the truth with no doubt involved. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Quarreling with a loved one about a financial matter will only make things worse; best to sit down and go over the budget with him/her to make your points clear. Work should go smoothly today until late afternoon when you could hit a snag; delegate some of those jobs and help yourself out. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Progress at work is assured today as you apply your logic and common sense to the problems that have been bothering you. Patience and perseverance will win your true loves heart. If you are planning a party tonight be sure to take along a designated driver. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Major decisions that you have been putting off will be made today as your thinking clears up and your resolve hardens. Do your best not to argue with anyone as that make re-fog your thinking. You will enjoy some fun with friends tonight. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You may experience a change in plans today that throws you off schedule in your business, never fear, you will have things clicking again before sundown. An extended domestic quarrel may have you up in the air but compromise can ease the situation to a great degree. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Worries over certain business matters are laid to rest today after you have a long talk with an advisor. This is an excel- lent time to make domestic or business decisions as you have all the tools at your fingertips. Plan an early evening and catch up on rest. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Problems in the morning may have you stumped on a project but you figure them out by noon and it is clear sailing from there. This has all the earmarks of turning out to be a good day for you in the romance department as your true love says yes. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A problem that you can easily avoid is likely to arise with a friend over money, do what needs to be done in order to prevent this from occurring. You and the spouse will be on the same wavelength and make some good decisions today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may feel frustrated today talking to someone who absolutely refuses to listen to reason; save it for another time. You will get valuable leads today on getting a new place to live. an overall good day but avoid risky ventures, you could have losses. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) If you are not already employed this would be a good day to send out resumes, put in application, and go to job inter- views. You may meet with a disappointment early on but otherwise, a good day to further your financial interests."}, {"response": 1167, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 20, 2000 (19:54)", "body": "Dec 20, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You'll find things aren't always what they seem. A coworker has been going through a tough time and they're taking it out on you. Sit down and talk to them -- you'll find their issues have nothing to do with you. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Money is causing you a lot of stress. It doesn't need to be. Just because you're short on funds doesn't mean that you can't accomplish what you want to. Think about a creative way to get to your goal -- it's there, you just haven't been seeing it. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You feel like you need to take a stand. This is good for you because people, especially a Taurus, has been taking advantage of you. Don't let them tell you that you are overreacting -- stick to your guns. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A new journey is bestowed upon you. This road will actually be much easier than the last situation you were in. Thank this Gemini for getting you in the right place at the right time. You can now sit back and relax."}, {"response": 1168, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 20, 2000 (20:47)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday December 21, 2000 Jay Leno: Besides being a star of his late-night television show, this Taurus has many other interests. He is an automobile collector. He has a friendly disposition toward astrology; many of his guests discuss the subject. During 2001, Jay Leno could consider an addition to the family. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Mystery solved, you know where you are going and why. What had been rejected will now be accepted. Look beyond the immediate, predict future, make it come true. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Delve into subjects previously prohibited. Emphasize originality, create your own style, don't follow others. Leo, Aquarius individuals play outstanding roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You could be at crossroads. Choose path that brings you close to home, marital status. Cancer, Capricorn persons play significant roles. Lucky number is 2. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Diversify, be sure your choice is your own. Don't be led down garden path by others. You emit personal magnetism, sex appeal. Sagittarian is in picture. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Tear down in order to rebuild. Define terms, outline boundaries. Protect property, loved ones. Taurus, Scorpio persons play major roles. Finished product terrific. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Be ready for change, travel, variety of sensations. Teach and write, realize importance of your thoughts, ideas. Flirtation stimulating but expensive. Gemini featured. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Music plays, find your rhythm, dance to your own tune. You will be complimented on voice, sounds different. Money surprise due -- you earned it some time ago. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Cycle high, judgment, intuition on target. Stand tall for principles, do not abandon them. People insist, ``Lighten Up.'' Pisces, Virgo will play memorable roles. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Power play. Something occurs behind scenes, you need not know everything. Surprise is being planned, don't let on that you know about it. Emphasize romance. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): People say, ``Tell my fortune.'' Maintain air of exclusively. Refuse to be taken for granted. Name high price for your services. Aries plays sensational role. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Don't follow others, stress originality, independence. A different kind of romance will be part of exciting scenario. You've earned right for pleasure. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Focus on cooperative efforts, local politics, marital status. You will be tempted to leave home -- don't. Stick to familiar ground if possible. Capricorn is in picture. IF DECEMBER 21ST IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have remarkable sense of humor, are versatile, you travel more than most people and are better at helping others than at promoting your own cause. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. Next year, you travel and could participate in political-humanitarian projects. August will be prosperous, memorable."}, {"response": 1169, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 21, 2000 (17:40)", "body": "December 21, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) An afternoon chance meeting has the possibility of becoming an indiscretion, as you and this person talk over old times and walk down memory lane. Make sure that you cut this short before it can lead to something seriously offensive to your present love. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You can give the impression of being cold and indifferent at times to loved ones when you are simply mulling over a prob- lem or daydreaming. Try not to ignore the important people in your life today as they need to feel closer to you for their own peace of mind. An interesting dream tonight leaves you puzzled and alert to a new possibility. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You are likely to experience a career change today that lets you explore your skills in more depth and breadth than you have been allowed to do in the past. This will be a position where you will be able to put your sixth sense and creativity to work for you. CANCER (June 22-July 22) You have an outstanding capacity for love and understanding which everyone admires and this makes people from all walks of life and all signs ready to trust you with their deepest secrets. You are the type that is not about to divulge the secrets no matter how much pressure someone places you under. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Let your hair down and kick up your heels as you have been lonely just about long enough. Put some vim and vigor into your attitude and actions and you will see your popularity grow in leaps and bounds. Good news tonight concerning legal matters that you may have pending. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Falling into a deadly dull routine where your lover is con- cerned is an almost sure thing that you will blow the match and wind up alone. Find some things that interest both of you and plan accordingly. Put a little excitement back into the relationship. A close friend is about to share a very important secret with you, resist the temptation to tell someone else. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Running into some snags in your personal life has left you at loose ends as you search for answers and solutions. Keeping a clear head and applying logic will go far toward helping you get the answers. Don't allow yourself to be caught up in the emotional turmoil of anger and frustration. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Sleight of hand, bait and switch, and overall underhanded dealings is something you may have to cope with in your world today as your business may hit a snag due to such tactics on either your part or someone else's. You may find similar things happening in your love life also. A dream tonight give you a brief insight into the near future. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Getting various things organized today will be your prime objective and take up most of you daytime hours. Evening may find your romantic affairs improving as someone who has secretly admired you for a long time confesses today and you find yourself very pleased about it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Treating yourself to a small luxury today will make your off duty times more comfortable and you deserve that little extra. A love match for you may not be working out and you may be reluctant to say so and hurt that persons feelings...chances are he/she feels the same as you! AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) The projects you start for personal gain today should be something that you truly enjoy doing ,as this will be likely to become a thriving home based business and you will be dealing with it for many years to come. A spiritual test is yours today. A dream tonight has important insights into a friend's problem. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) In your search for true and lasting happiness you will always fall short of the goal if you do not stop and remember that true happiness comes from giving what you have inside to others, not just taking from them. You will find the rewards of such action more than you expected."}, {"response": 1170, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Dec 22, 2000 (14:51)", "body": "gemini: that sort of happened today--i get to work on one project full time and my other work has already been redistributed. (it's not bad news, the project is a full time responsibility--hard to work it plus the other stuff going on at the same time)and we also have at one nongainfully employed person in my section."}, {"response": 1171, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 22, 2000 (19:35)", "body": "I had an interesting reunification yesterday... Your Daily Horoscope for Friday December 22, 2000 Lou Holtz: He is a coach with a sense of humor. He formerly coached at Notre Dame and currently is at South Carolina. When youngsters come in to meet him, they are nervous until he does a few magic tricks. Relaxation and laughter replaces tension. Lou Holtz, a Capricorn, produces winning teams. He takes football seriously, but can laugh at his foibles. ARIES (March 21-April 19): Make fresh start in different direction. Maintain aura of mystery, intrigue. Toss aside preconceived notions. Don't follow others, imprint own style. TAURUS (April 20-May 20): Lay low, play waiting game, review legal ramifications. Focus on home, marital status. Cancer, Capricorn individuals will play fascinating roles. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Keep resolutions concerning exercise, diet and nutrition. Spotlight on humor, celebration, bringing together those with opposite political views. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Moon position highlights creativity, physical attraction. Check details, do what you should have done 24 hours ago. Scorpio plays top role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Emphasis on sale or purchase of property. You do well with written word, give yourself a chance. Family member has pleasant surprise. Virgo represented. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention revolves around where you live, romance, receipt of gift representing love. Emphasis on diplomacy, willingness to make intelligent concessions. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Hold tight to valuables, refuse to give up something of value. Financial arrangements can be made, probably in your favor. Pisces, Virgo persons are in scenario. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Many people talk to you, are drawn to your point of view. Power play, put it in action. Cancer, Capricorn persons play major roles. Relationship intense. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look behind scenes, someone could be following you. Journey to foreign land is distinct possibility. Stress universal appeal. Reunion with Aries exciting. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): What seemed impossible 24 hours ago is now practical, workable. Living quarters will be secure, comfortable. Major dilemma will be solved. Leo plays role. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): What seemed long ago and far away is made available. Focus on partnership, local politics, marital status. PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20): Peek into future. Emphasis on travel, philosophy, theology. You will be speaking another language. Be encouraged, you're doing fine. Sagittarius involved. IF DECEMBER 22ND IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You began creating your own lifestyle at a relatively early age. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. Next year, as early as January, you will imprint your own style and there could be new love. July and October will be romantic, profitable. Nothing will be impossible."}, {"response": 1172, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Dec 23, 2000 (16:11)", "body": "(marcia, i did get that email) hey, DMV--department of motor vehicles? *giggle*"}, {"response": 1173, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 23, 2000 (18:28)", "body": "Hasta be for you, Wolfie! I don't even drive!"}, {"response": 1174, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 24, 2000 (13:18)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday December 24, 2000 Christmas Eve: More families will get together this Christmas Eve. People will travel from a distance to be with loved ones. There will be numerous songs, entertainment, theological discussions aimed at making clear the significance of this holiday. Capricorn, Cancer persons will be in the news. Focus will be on long ago and far away. Much discussion occurs in connection with home beautiful. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): On this Sunday, accent versatility, entertain and be entertained. What was lost will be recovered in surprising manner. Gemini plays dramatic role. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Break through red tape, revise and review, tear down in order to rebuild. What had been rejected two weeks ago will now be enthusiastically accepted. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Be ready for change, travel, variety of experiences. Written word will play paramount role. Virgo figures in fascinating scenario. Gift of book delights. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Focus on domestic adjustment, gifts that help make home beautiful. Taurus, Libra persons will play creative roles. You'll receive luxury item as love token. LEO ( July 23-Aug. 22): Spirit of holiday prevails. Maintain aura of mystery, discuss ``miracles.'' Pisces, Virgo persons will play fascinating roles. Look behind scenes for answers. VIRGO ( Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Plow into areas previously restricted. Stick close to home, if possible. Be analytical, face music early. Cancer, Capricorn persons help make this memorable holiday. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Look beyond the immediate, toss aside preconceived notions. You'll conclude: ``Nothing is impossible!'' Aries, another Libra help promote Christmas spirit. Enjoy! SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Take cold plunge into future -- you can make it bright, spiritual. Leo, Aquarius persons will delineate subtle indications. Imprint style, don't follow others! SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Reunion with loved one will be highlight of holiday. Food figures prominently. Gourmet dish could be talk of the evening. Cancer native in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Diversify, experiment and bring forth sense of humor. Individual who traveled from afar will help bring joy to holiday. Sagittarian plays ``mysterious'' role. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Restrictions are but temporary. Red tape will fall aside. Rebuilding process is under way. Taurus, Scorpio persons play featured roles. Architecture discussed. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar.20): Exchange of ideas proves stimulating, brings forth greater understanding of Christmas. Gemini, Virgo persons dominate scenario. Get thoughts, ideas on paper. IF DECEMBER 24 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you have unusual voice, can combine diplomacy and strength. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. Next year, travel, accelerated social activity. May will be a romantic, profitable month. During January, you will tend to routine, which had been ignored. Welcome change occurs in February."}, {"response": 1175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 25, 2000 (17:37)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday December 25, 2000 Merry Christmas!: With New Moon in Capricorn, people will seriously consider significance of holiday. Capricorn, Cancer persons will figure prominently in the news. Number 3, Jupiter will put people in the mood for spiritual uplift. There will be serious discussions concerning luck and ``miracles.'' Contemplate and meditate. Savor the joys of this holiday. ARIES (Mar.21-Apr.19): You will be in the rhythm of this day. Dance to your own tune, puzzle will be solved. People will express love for you. Scorpio figures prominently. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): You will enjoy greater freedom of thought, action. Write impressions of places, people. Take note of dreams. Properly interpreted, they could be guidepost to future. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Family reunion highlighted, flowers, music, gifts featured. One who had been absent will return with dramatic flair. Libra figures in scenario. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Don't tell all, play waiting game, questions concerning partnership, marriage will loom large. Legal dilemma will be solved. Governmental agency in picture. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): People will be drawn to you seeking knowledge, encouragement. You'll have more responsibility, promotion will be featured. Capricorn plays role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Your extrasensory perception surges forth. Perceive future, control your destiny. Good news on this Christmas Day, love will not be unrequited. Aries represented. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct.22): Shake off emotional lethargy, make fresh start in new direction. Take chance on romance, imprint style, don't follow others. Be sure to wear bright colors. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership, marital status. Individual who shunned you will now make friendly gesture. Cancer, Capricorn in top roles. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Diversify, make people laugh if even through their grief. You can make this a most ``entertaining'' Christmas Day. Gemini figures prominently. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): New Moon in your sign represents ``high cycle.'' Judgment, intuition honed to razor-sharpness. Permit heart to rule. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons are in picture. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Your role on this Christmas Day will be that of ``teacher.'' Read and write, share knowledge. Flirtation is serious, respond accordingly. Virgo represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Attention revolves around home, family, decorating, remodeling. This will be one of your most ``beautiful'' of Christmas Days. Music plays, dance to your own tune. IF DECEMBER 25 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are serious when it comes to interpreting subtle meanings of holiday. You gain much through mediation. Pisces, Virgo persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials, in names: G, P, Y. January will be one of your most exciting months next year. You write, create and act. April will be your most profitable, romantic month in 2001."}, {"response": 1176, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (05:33)", "body": "test"}, {"response": 1177, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (05:40)", "body": "Just wanted to see if I could write a response, the /tmp directory is full on our server, but it may not be affecting anything. Just checking."}, {"response": 1178, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (12:20)", "body": "is there a way to clean it out? is it like the temp on our home computers?"}, {"response": 1179, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (13:29)", "body": "Terry said it was at Digihost where the problem was in email...so we await their cleaning schedule... December 26 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn More work and responsibility is coming your way. Someone else isn't doing their work and you're going to have to carry the load for a little while. Take it in stride -- you will be rewarded in the near future. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You might have to run a lot of errands today. Don't procrastinate -- get it all done. Watch out for someone who doesn't have your best interest at heart. While they are very charming, look for the ulterior motive. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You've decided to scrap something that you've been working on for a while. This is probably the best thing for you since you've been putting a lot of time into it. This will clear the way for something new to come into your life. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Have you been in touch with a close friend lately? They need you but they don't want to bother you. There is a reason while you haven't heard from them so pick up the phone and call."}, {"response": 1180, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (13:30)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Tuesday December 26, 2000 Henry Miller: He was one of the world's most controversial writers. Had he lived, he would be celebrating his birthday today. He was born Dec. 26, 1891. He died in Pacific Palisades, Calif., on June 7, 1980. He was a Capricorn, deeply interested in astrology. His best-known book was ``Tropic of Cancer.'' Miller was also an artist, played the piano and despised censorship. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): You do the impossible -- obstacles, red tape are overcome. Get thoughts in writing; find outlet for creative force within you. Gemini plays role. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Attention revolves around where you live, comforts of home. If diplomatic, you gain objective. Don't force issues, be kind and understanding. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Aries will aid you at last minute. Maintain aura of mystery; let others play guessing games. Accent wit, wisdom and humor. Pisces represented. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your kind of day! Be aware of legal rights, permissions. Then plow through with promotion, production and distribution. Capricorn figures prominently. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): You could be on precipice of fame, fortune. Predictions come true, you could be young Nostradamus. Love relationship ``sizzles.'' Libra plays major role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Stress independence, pioneering spirit. Wear bright colors, make personal appearances. You'll be ``handed'' leadership role. Leo, Aquarius persons are in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You will know you are not alone, cooperation will be sought in connection with local politics. Be near water if possible. Express views, martial status featured. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Express friendly part of your nature. Many will act stunned, amazed. You have power to win friends, influence people. Sagittarius plays stunning role. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Scorpio plays important role and will help you overcome red tape. Revise, review and rewrite. What was rejected will now be accepted. Be sure to check plumbing. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): People talk about you, write impressions, dig deep to obtain subtle characteristics. If analytical, you could write prize article. Teach and learn! AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Family member cooperates, you are encouraged to pursue creative hobby. You could change residence, martial status. Focus on diplomacy, sound of your voice. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Remember there can be too much of a good thing. See places, people in realistic light. You'll be provided with privileged information. Be discreet! IF DECEMBER 26 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are creative, passionate, temperamental, capable of finishing what you start. When pressure is on, you are up to it. Capricorn, Cancer persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. Next year, you'll have greater freedom of thought, action. You will excel with written word. March your most memorable, profitable, romantic month of 2001."}, {"response": 1181, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (13:31)", "body": "December 26, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Holiday disappointments may have been yours but you also knew some happiness and it is this that you should dwell on today. No one ever found happiness or love in a bottle and you are smart enough to know this. Go out and meet some new people; you will be glad you did. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You can never do enough for some people no matter how hard you try, as chances are, they are just looking for a free ride and discovered you just might sit still for being their driver. Opt out of any further promises to these people and try avoid- ing them for a few days while they get the message. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Some of you will be going back to work on Monday only to find that you forgot to do your 'homework' on a certain project that is needed. Today would be good to get all that prep- eration done and then go out and relax in the evening. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Some guests may be leaving but others will be arriving to cele- brate the new years with you and yours. You find that you are not only up to it, you are actually looking forward to this time. Keep the week long celebration down to a mild roar as yours is a quiet neighborhood. :-) LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A quarrel between relatives really does not concern you but they will try to draw you in on it. It will be best to simply leave until the air clears, as to take up for either will insult the other and so you won't be able to win for losing. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Christmas was a wonderful time for you this year as you got to spend time with the family and with your teenage child which you see so little of over the year. Seeing your child behind the wheel of her own car brings home the fact of just how grown up she has become. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A pesky problem with your car could pop up today but luckily it is something you can fix and luckily you find a parts place open to help you out. Be sure you follow all the directions as you want to be able to drive to work tomorrow without breaking down halfway there. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) In hot pursuit of your new love may turn out to be clutching at air as this one is not the settling down kind. Best to keep on looking for awhile or give this one some elbow room to do a little serious thinking about the subject. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) An old lover from the past or a recent ex-lover will try to get back with you and this may not be appropriate for now and especially with your commitment to another. Besides, for all your shy ways you still like to be the one to pursue and woo your mate to be. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A picture is worth a thousand words it is true, but sometimes pictures can be very misleading. Before you become upset with someone over a picture, find out what the circumstances was in the taking. Jealousy smells...bad, and it may also be un- founded. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Domestic unrest may lead to some pretty heavy quarreling today unless you take the time to set down with your spouse and try to work out these differences before it gets to the serious stage. A buddy from work drops by with an invitation but you will be better off not accepting it today. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Friends call and take you to our with them today and you are happy you went as you meet someone you have not seen in years and proceed to renew and old acquaintance. A brother or sister could need your help in the evening and you do all in your power to help out and make a difference in their life."}, {"response": 1182, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (19:46)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday December 27, 2000 Johannes Kepler: Modern textbooks call him, ``The father of modern astronomy.'' This Capricorn scientist was an astrologer first and foremost. He utilized astronomy to sharpen his astrological techniques. Kepler was born Dec. 27, 1571, died on Nov. 15, 1630. Kepler was quoted as saying, ``Astrology has compelled my unwilling belief!'' Kepler, the Great! ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Family member conveys news of promotion. Taurus, Libra, Capricorn persons will play memorable roles. Your advice will be sought, give it freely. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Look beyond the immediate, utilize imagination, take cold plunge into your future. Follow hunch, especially in dealing with real estate. Pisces involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Accept challenge of added responsibility. Money belonging to another is transferred to you. Display pleasure without being servile. Capricorn involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Legal affairs require immediate attention. Lie low, play waiting game. Focus on partnership, marital status. You could be part of international new story. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Change of employment could be featured. Create you own tradition, stress independence and originality. Avoid heavy lifting if possible. Participate in dramatic presentation. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Emphasis on where you live, solidity of structure, marital status. Keep resolutions concerning exercise, diet and nutrition. Cancer prepares excellent dinner tonight. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Make people laugh if even through their tears. Display versatility, entertainment skills and fairness in making controversial judgment. Sagittarius is in picture. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Capricorn relative attempts to be helpful but could be a hindrance. Check details and correct measurements. Revise, rebuild and rewrite. Get ideas on paper. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): What you missed 24 hours ago will once again be made available. Write your views, impressions. Take note of dreams and obtain proper interpretation. Flirtation serious! CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Attention revolves around domestic adjustment, possible change of residence, martial status. Find your rhythm, dance to your own tune. Libra figures prominently. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): What occurs behind scenes will have direct affect on current situation. Be discreet; don't tell all. Be near water if possible. Pisces plays fascinating role. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Best foot forward! Take charge of promotion, distribution. Love relationship strong, requires attention. Capricorn, Cancer individuals play memorable roles. IF DECEMBER 27 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are a humanitarian and have international point of view. You will travel, you are romantic, passionate, could meet future mate during cruise. Aries, Libra persons play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: I and R. During 2001, important domestic adjustment occurs, could include change of residence, martial status. February and November most memorable."}, {"response": 1183, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (20:53)", "body": "December 27, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your business tactics, ethical of course, puts you a few steps ahead of the more ruthless competition and gains a better reputation for your business. Do your best to avoid marital conflicts today as it is not likely that you will win this one. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) This is a good day to do some end of the year shopping for computers and electronic equipment, you could find a very good bargain out there. You are entrusted with a confidence today and you go to great lengths to keep it. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Spend your day in creative work or research and study, all these areas will hold some surprises for you. Don't let others get on your nerves and aggravate you tonight as that could throw you off your creative rhythm. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you find yourself being philosophical about almost everything and your friends and family can't understand the change in you. You take all their problems in hand and find this is the perfect way to get through the day unscathed while still being of help to others. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Though social matters are favored you will do better to spend this time on getting some of the problems ironed out that you had to leave hanging over the holidays. Some shrewd thinking will keep you on top of everything today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) The morning hours are filled with much progress you are making and your spirits soar. a little quick thinking could extend your business success into the afternoon when you are ready to take a deserved break and go somewhere to regroup. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You and a spouse will be right in tune today and you are sur- prised at how well the whole day goes because of it. Innova- tive ideas will prove right for you today, all you have to do is get them rolling. A new years eve invitation gives you some- thing fun to look forward to. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Be careful you do not spend a lot of money on a hobby no matter how interesting or mentally stimulating it may be. Someone who is trying to pull the wool over your eyes may not bank on your very strong intuition catching them in the process. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) This is a good day for job prospects as you find a good position with hardly any looking at all. This is a job worth having and can offer you steady advancement even if the starting pay is low. Afternoon will have romantic overtones for you. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) When you make a deal today be sure it is one you can live with and stick to as there will be no changing horses in the middle of the stream on this one. Kick those intuitive processes in gear and make a commitment to something you can live up to. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) This is a good day to run down all the information you will need to apply for those student loans and grants when you return to classes. It is best to have everything at hand and do things right the first time around. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Some deep thinking will get you through some important negoti- ations today in the area of finances and loans. Be doubly sure it is something you cannot do without before saddling you or your company with a large debt for the new year."}, {"response": 1184, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 27, 2000 (23:14)", "body": "December 28, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Mind games always infuriate you unless, of course, you are the one doing the playing. Try to be very careful about whom you play mind games with today as you could find yourself the loser. A message from afar brings you some good news, and old friends drop by in the evening. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A recent eyeopener for you has you tuned into the big picture now and your efforts will not go unrewarded. Family and friends need your companionship and you take the time to be with them. Don't get angry with some coworkers as they are not sure of themselves yet. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Financial institutions are easier to deal with today, and most people will bow to your suggestions. While yours is an indepen- dent spirit there is no need to put others down or cause them grief in order to express that nature, a quiet dignity is what suits you best when you apply it. CANCER (June 22-July 22) It is best if you meet your problems head on and talk to the people responsible, as they are more apt to forgive and forget if you show yourself to be honest and up front with them. Hid- ing out and avoiding people will not make the situation go away. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A new partner puts the life back in your business and his inno- vative ideas have you turning handsprings. There may even be a romantic interest attached to this partnership. A good day to be careful on the highway if you have to be out and about, so use extreme care when driving. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You have let your people skills go down hill lately due to work- ing so much at home in the seclusion of your private office thereby losing out on outside contacts, but today on your day job you prove that they are still with you and you smooth out the day considerably. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A demanding boss may not make for a pleasant working enviornment but you manage to do all that he requests and more. Take heart this person will not be with the company much longer and this could have a lot to do with his attitude, remember, all things come to he who waits. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You feel like running through the clover in happiness, if there were any, because your offer of matrimony has been responded to in a positive manner. Friends give you a surprise party and everyone you know turns out for the fun. Make it an early night; work tomorrow SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A loved one is about to make what you feel is a big mistake but he/she does not feel it is a mistake. In this instance you will have to let go and allow this person room to grow and be his or her own person even if it looks bad to you. Just stand by to help put things together again. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A family friend offers you some sound financial advice and you realize it is good advice to take. Too many worries over the future can make you blind to all you have going for you in the present and all the beauty that surrounds you; wake up and smell the caffiene. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Gossip can be pretty informative right about now so If you would learn things that will benefit you in the long run then be a good listener today, and not just when someone is talking strictly to you. A child may be on the verge of trouble, talk to her. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A true friend does not care how many assets you do or don't have or how much you paid for your house, a true friend cares about your health, your happiness, in other words, you. Weed out that nosy person now as she or he could cause you trouble later because of jealousy."}, {"response": 1185, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 27, 2000 (23:18)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday December 28, 2000 Famous Almanac: Benjamin Franklin's interest in astrology is unchallenged. He published the world's most famous almanac, ``Poor Richard's Almanac.'' In it, he made many references to astrology. The first advertisement for the Almanac was on Dec. 28, 1732. Benjamin Franklin, brilliant and witty statesman and inventor was a Capricorn. As Ambassador to France, he gained a reputation as a ``lover.'' ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Following gloom there will be sunlight. Means initial failure rebounds as rousing success. Work behind scenes. Maintain aura of mysticism. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Focus on organization, priorities and pressure of added responsibility. Spotlight on distribution, advertising. Personal relationship ``sizzles.'' Capricorn involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Utilize wit, humor to overcome red tape. Bureaucrat, an Aries, offers friendship; from then on you win! Communication received from foreign land. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Toss aside preconceived notions. Create your own tradition and emphasize original thinking. A new kind of love awaits. Wear bright colors, be available. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Don't rush, emphasize quality especially in connection with housing. Focus on direction, motivation and need for meditation. Cancer, Capricorn persons play ``astounding'' roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Diversity, give full play to intellectual curiosity. Try on yet another new wardrobe. You look fine, smile at your foibles. Gemini, Sagittarius are in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Lunar aspect highlights personality, sensuality and physical attraction. Wise counsel: Don't break too many hearts! Spotlight on children, challenge and variety of experiences. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Get money's worth! Lost article recovered, you discover new way of increasing income. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius play instrumental roles. Lucky number is 5\ufffd SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Emphasis on where you live, artistic achievements, music and voice. Relative extends invitation, accept with no strings. Taurus, Libra play top roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Look behind scenes, someone may be following you! Define terms; don't tell all, discretion is truly better part of valor. Pisces, Virgo will entertain, mystify. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Cycle high, take initiative, make appointments, let people know you are alive and kicking. Focus on personality, sex appeal. Applause received for invention. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): You'll perceive ``rules of game'' from an Aquarian. Keep promise to ``keep secret.'' Loved one on journey will return. Aries, Libra individuals play dramatic roles. IF DECEMBER 28 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are an original thinker, independent at times to degree of being arrogant. You are romantic, sensual, willing to go where angels fear to tread. Leo, Aquarius persons play memorable roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. Recent domestic adjustment enabled you to let go of burden. January and October of 2001 will be your most profitable, satisfying months."}, {"response": 1186, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 27, 2000 (23:19)", "body": "December 28, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You're trying to make a decision and you're at a loss. Ask for some guidance not only from a wise Aries but look for some divine guidance. You need to make a decision soon, however -- others are getting impatient. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Stop looking for the answers somewhere else. You have all the answers you need -- you just aren't listening. Take some quiet time and get your thoughts in order. Being emotional isn't going to help you figure out what's best for you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A group outing turns out to be more stressful than anticipated. Even though others don't agree with you, don't let them project their feelings too strongly on you. Remember, the outing will end eventually. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Don't broadcast your personal feelings for a coworker around the office. Your boss is very sensitive to this kind of talk and will take notice if you do. Diplomacy is the name of the game today."}, {"response": 1187, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 30, 2000 (12:55)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday December 29, 2000 Beatnik Star: Her fans were made up chiefly of ``hippies and beatniks.'' She sang folk songs and became a star of quality. Joan Baez, a Capricorn, was earthy as befits her sign. People were loyal to her and continue to miss her performances. As a Capricorn she has staying power. When it comes to folk singing she remains atop the list. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Turn on Aries charm! You get what you want, decide what it is you need. You will win friends and influence people. Cancer native in picture. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Ability to look into future is heightened. Focus on leadership, promotion and responsibility. Reunion featured in connection with travel. Libra represented. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Create your own tradition, toss aside preconceived notions. Don't follow others, exercise independence and original thinking. Love relationship is on track. CANCER (June 21-July 22): People want you to be involved in their problems, lives. Know when to say, ``Enough!'' Loan will be repaid; you'll be delighted as a result. Home! LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Avoid debate with fanatic. Focus on legal aspects and public relations. Lie low. Question of marital status looms large. Gemini, Sagittarius play key roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Be aware of details, solve mathematical problems and check measurements. Former teacher calls for reunion. It would be to your advantage to accept. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You emit personal magnetism, sex appeal. Read, write and learn through process of teaching. Young person could be directly involved. Virgo plays fascinating role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Attention revolves around property value, home, deciding whether to stay or move on. Stick to familiar ground. Taurus, Libra individuals figure in scenario. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec.21): Don't be shy about speaking up in connection with apparent deception. Face music early but don't give up. Pisces, Virgo persons play outstanding roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Money involved, authorities on your side, power play enables you to win. Take initiative, let people know you mean business. Cancer in picture. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Look beyond the immediate, discard previous notions. Long-distance call verifies views. Participate in humanitarian project. Aries, Libra will set examples. PISCES (Feb. 18-Mar. 20): People talk about you due to exciting project. Take initiative, emphasize originality, inventiveness. A new kind of love is on horizon. Leo plays romantic role. IF DECEMBER 29 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are intuitive, changed name on more than one occasion. You are drawn to mantic arts, including astrology. Capricorn, Cancer persons play dramatic roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Next year, you come out of doldrums, succeed romantically, financially. September will be your most memorable, dynamic, profitable month in 2001."}, {"response": 1188, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 30, 2000 (12:56)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday December 30, 2000 Like Father, Like Son: His father was a well-known actor. He followed in those footsteps and became a major box-office attraction. Tyrone Power was a Taurus. It became evident that he responded to his Venus ruling planet. He was handsome. He served in the Marines, but was considered too ``delicate'' to be regarded as masculine. He was a strong advocate of astrology and didn't hesitate to say so. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Don't tell all, some of your ``power'' is hidden. Bring it forth by tonight, you are due to win big. Organize priorities and build for the future. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Lunar position coincides with ability to utilize powers of persuasion. You will have luck in matters of speculation by sticking with number 1. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Emphasis on home, family and security. Decide on direction and review motivation. Seafood dinner tonight raises morale. Capricorn, Cancer persons will play roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Make people laugh, even through their grief. Focus on versatility, ability to be at right place at crucial moment. Elements of timing, luck ride with you. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Start rebuilding activity. Be willing to revise, review and rewrite. Your ``image'' will vastly improve. Taurus, Scorpio persons will play mystical roles. Number 4\ufffd VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): You will be in your element. Discuss science, literature. You will be told that you are loved, believe it! Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Make intelligent concessions to family member. Do not, however, budge on principles. Music involved, dance to your own tune. Another Libra plays fascinating role. SCORIPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Element of deception exists. Protect self at close quarters. See people, relationships in realistic light. Pisces, Virgo persons become your allies. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): What you've been waiting for! You hold trump card, can direct power play. Romantic relationship sizzles. Know when to say, ``Enough!'' Capricorn involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 2-Jan. 19): Finish what you start, you could become ``talk of the town.'' You beat the odds, succeed where others fail. Dramatic reunion takes place tonight. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Make fresh start in new direction. Emphasize original thinking, pioneering spirit. Don't follow others. Spark returns to love relationship. Leo represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Decision reached in connection with finding ``comfortable quarters.'' Be aware of architecture and check plumbing facilities. Aquarian makes move that benefits you. IF DECEMBER 30 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you have excellent sense of humor, possess intellectual curiosity and enjoy entertaining and being entertained. You are conscious of your weight. Gemini, Sagittarius play important roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. Next year, you will be knocking on doors of fame and fortune. Marriage looms large, you will be rid of burden not your own."}, {"response": 1189, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Dec 30, 2000 (12:56)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday December 31, 2000 Last Day: On this last day of the year 2000, the Moon is in Pisces, numerical cycle is number nine. Since nine relates to Mars, there will be plenty of fireworks to welcome in the New Year. There will be romantic liaisons as well as the finish of some relationships. Aries, Libra persons will be in the news. Pisces persons will surprise by making public their inventions. Happy New Year! ARIES (Mar.21-Apr.19): Imprint style, don't follow others, take initiative. A different kind of love is on the horizon. Leo, Aquarius individuals play amazing roles. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): You will keep more resolutions than during past years. Pisces Moon in your Eleventh House -- powers of persuasion heightened, you win friends and influence people. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Promotion due, you could be hobnobbing with important people. You'll enjoy this New Year's Eve more so than in the past. Sagittarius is in the picture. CANCER (June 21-July 22): You can have things your way -- but there is the rub. What is your way? Much has to do with home, love and comfortable living. Scorpio plays role. LEO (July 23-Aug.22): Focus on physical attraction, bright sayings and display of writing skills. Flirtation more serious than expected. Be careful; know when to say, ``Enough!'' Gemini involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention revolves around home, family and domestic adjustment. Music will play, find your rhythm and dance to your own tune. Taurus, Libra and Scorpio are in scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Avoid self-deception. Don't be deceived by romantic haze. Steer clear of bibulous persons. Go easy on adult beverages and get promises in writing. Aries in picture. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov.21): Power play, punch hard and enjoy festivities, but also show tender side of your nature. Love relationship sizzles, is controversial. Capricorn will set pace. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Celebrate but blend with moderation. Relationship ends but another is on horizon. Aries, Libra persons play significant roles. Long journey ahead. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Wear bright colors, take initiative and don't follow others. Set your own pace. Short trips involve holiday and relatives. Let go of burden not your own. AQUARIOUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Spotlight on cooperative efforts, political persuasions and sale or purchase of home. Keep resolutions concerning exercise, diet and nutrition. Taurus plays role. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Holiday festivities include mystery, mind reading tricks. Social activities dominate. You could make a friend for life. Sagittarius stops the presses. IF DECEMBER 31ST IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You were on your own early, including thoughts and ambitions. The building process fascinates you, including architecture. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play important roles in your life. Could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. Next year you make exciting contacts, will be romantic, vital and sensual. July your most memorable month of 2001."}, {"response": 1190, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 31, 2000 (18:09)", "body": "JANUARY 2001 Astrological overview:Lunar echo as there's a small eclipse just around the King's birthday, a most holy of days. Then, late in the month, Mr. Saturn and Mr. Jupiter change their relative positions in the heavens, and we all see some of the promise of the new year start to develop. Mars spends the month in Scorpio, his home, and Venus brings love and light to the Pisces portion of the sky -- shortly after the beginning of the year. So how's this going to work out, just for this month? Personally, I'm looking forward to the guys in Abilene who all go water skiing on the first -- such typical Texas behavior is the perhaps the best way to see the year off to a good start. Aries [3. 21 - 4. 19]: A wise person once admonished me, \"Good things come to those who wait.\" Sure, sounds nice. Works for some people. But as a fishing analogy, if the fish just ain't biting where you're at, then it is time to move. \"Are you sure about that?\" is the frequent question. Yes. It's a definitive answer. What works really well in one pond, just doesn't seem to apply in others. One day, a little plastic worm -- not a normal, natural color -- one day, that sort of bait works great. The next day, you need to use a little bit of stink bait. See, being ready to try something different is good. Being ready to forgo what just isn't working, especially at this time of the year, see, that's the right idea. Follow your instincts on this one, and I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results. Now, following instincts, and following desires, those are two different things. I'm tending to believe your gut instinct on this one. Make sure it's the feeling in your heart, though, and not the feeling a little lower. That's where the trouble starts. Taurus [4. 19 - 5.20]: There should be a little bit of welcome relief in the coming weeks. I'll promise that. You've still got some old stuff which you've been avoiding, but then, I could probably suggest that for anyone. And rather than deal with bland generalizations, let's look at some specific instances right now. Yes, you should be wealthy. Odds are, it won't be a lottery type win, not this month. But a little bit of concentrated effort, a little bit of looking at the what you can do to take full advantage of the situation (you know which one I'm talking about), a little bit of extra effort right now, during this month, will pay off big. In fact, before the end of the month, you should be seeing some rewards for this hard work. I'm a little dubious about the hard work thing myself. I would suppose that it is a little hard for me to preach what I don't know about myself, but I do know charts, and that's what is suggested in yours. Hard work includes looking for a chance to plan a vacation, if you get the hint. Gemini [5.21- 6. 21]: One of the words which most of the Gemini's I know really don't like, one of the words which seems to carry a little extra weight, perhaps even an evil connotation, one of the words which is not always met with a universal display of profound happiness, one of those words is \"work.\" So what's up with work this month? Aren't you glad you asked? You're too busy, covering too much ground, and trying to be in three places at once, which, given your basic Gemini sentiment, shouldn't be too much of a problem. But it is. It's not you, see, it's that mean old Mr. Johnson (or Smith or Jones, or whatever his or her name is) and that person seems to have some very high expectations of you. Abnormally high. This isn't a problem, as long as you don't need to worry about everyday stuff like doing laundry, going on a date, seeing movie, or reading a book. Or even reading your horoscope occasionally. If you don't mind being all consumed with one thing like work, then it's okay. But if you attempt to have a life, you might have to draw on some of those extra special Gemini powers, and you might wind up having to be two places at once. Even three. The cause of your consternation? Jupiter, that lucky star. Cancer [6. 22 - 7. 22]: At the beginning of a new year, it's not always the best time for a sensitive Cancer type. There's the odd influence of the sun, making his way through Capricorn, and that always serves to drown out and obscure some of the better feelings which should be floating around. But if you can avoid the influence of the sun himself, then there's still a some of the odd stuff going on which looks good for you. It's not like it's a major influence, but paying attention to some spurious details at times like this -- looking at the details really helps. It's just a matter of the sorting out process which is important. What details really do require attention? What details are best left for other signs? And as long as Venus is in Pisces, you'll find that you have a somewhat flippant way of dealing with other peoples' emergencies. Try my phrase: \"Just because it's an emergency for you -- doesn't make it my emergency, too.\" Or something like. You get the general drift,"}, {"response": 1191, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jan 1, 2001 (03:49)", "body": "Great, welcome to 2001. (2001 music from Arthur C Clark movie plays in background). I hope you all had a wonderful New Years night. I did."}, {"response": 1192, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 1, 2001 (14:44)", "body": "Mine was alone and quiet but the neighbors all put on fireworks shows... Next Year, Watch out. I'm gonna make up for all the years of quietude... Saw 6th Street in Austin (is that Jazz row?)on the telly and thought of y'all."}, {"response": 1193, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 1, 2001 (15:18)", "body": "But I did have fun online... Lots of little windows with conversations into the wee hours... *naughty smiles*"}, {"response": 1194, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jan 1, 2001 (21:38)", "body": "That's great, Marci, glad you had a good 2001 Eve."}, {"response": 1195, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (00:17)", "body": "January 2, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) An unexpected, and uninvited guest shows up out of the blue for an extended visit and you find yourself pressed for time and space but you do not let this daunt you as you make room for one more. Children may feel out of sorts and a little cantankerous today but you deal admirably with them. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A good friend has been keeping an eye on your latest project, or home based business, and he or she has some definite ideas that he/she wants to share with you. Take a few minutes to listen to this person and you will find just exactly what you have been searching for. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your mind will be centered on study or research today and you find you have a breakthrough even if it is only a new, inspired, form of work, or method of research that will get you to your goal faster. Talking with loan officers and managers will be gainful for you today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) It is not wise to loan money as you may never get it back. Deal- ings with the public is favored today as your charisma is show- ing, and you will have a greater response to your ideas than you have had in the past. You will have a small domestic dispute in the evening after a smooth day at work. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) It would be good to take everything you hear with a grain of salt and pretend you are from Missouri, (take a show me attitude), as there is a high probability of deception in your interactive affairs now. This is also not a good day to put any credence into rumors you may hear about anything. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) If you are interested in the writing arts and anything to do with the printed word, this appears to be your day for inspiration, creativity, and even contracts as your ability to express yourself is at its optimum today. Talking with agents and partners are also highly favored at this time. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a good day for shopping or spending on a safe venture but not a good day at all for gambling pursuits as there could be los- ses in risk taking for you. Domestic activity should be of great interest to you tonight as your spouse may have a wonderful sur- prise for you!! SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Being argumentive at work is not recommended today as this could be detrimental to your status, and possibly cause you to come close to losing your position. Be careful today if you work around any type of machinery don't get absent minded at the wrong time. Creative ideas in the afternoon. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A domestic dispute has the wheels turning but you lean more in a practical manner in making up with your spouse. Love is in your heart, but down to earth basics is in your mind; express the love if you hope to win this one. A raise, or bonus could be yours on this day. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today you get the ok from your partner to go ahead and implement the changes you knew would be necessary in the past and already had planned out and ready. This would not be a good day to take any financial risks, either small or large, as everything holds the possibility of loss when it comes to money. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your credit card has come through just in time for you to catch some bargains before the 1999 prices go through the roof, just be careful you do not overdo it and max. out the card right away so that it becomes just another monthly debt and you've lost the usefulness, of having it. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) One of those rare, calm, days when you have the emotions under control and everything seems to click into place for you. You will find it easy today to finalize plans and agreements you have been involved in and even the children are angels, so smile and enjoy your beautiful, though cold, day."}, {"response": 1196, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (00:21)", "body": "January 2, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Before you write someone out of your life, look at your motivations. They may be being difficult right now but they have reason to be. Instead of running away, ask if you can help. You may be surprised by the answer. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Your flair for positive communication will come in handy with an aggressive client. You'll say just the right thing to alleviate their fears. Make sure to follow through on your promises -- it will enhance your reputation. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Since you have some free time on your hands, this would be a good time to catch up on some reading. You'll find there is more information out there that you need to tap into so you can travel to a higher realm. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Make sure you know what your schedule is for the rest of the week because you don't want to miss an important meeting. You'll notice there is a possibility you may have double booked - take care of this immediately."}, {"response": 1197, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (21:40)", "body": "January 3, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You are able to be more at ease with members of the opposite sex. It is also a time to experience a greater balance be- tween your egotistical senses and emotional feelings. As you are more at ease, the opportunity is greater for making new friends that have quite an impact on you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today you are devoted to fulfilling obligations and accepting responsibility. This puts you in a position to enthusiastically take on the tasks which you usually try to avoid. This will earn you recognition from your boss and others, even if you don't try to call attention to yourself. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) This is a time when you may discuss and explore the deeper emotional needs of you and your partner. This may occur due to a variety of reasons, from a desire to be closer or because of some conflict. The overall goal here is essentially to enhance the balance in a relationship. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your desires and conscious will are more in harmony at this time, so you should be able to work well with other people. Although your assertiveness will be strong, it is unlikely that you want to become aggressive or agitated. This is also a time to re- assert any position of authority that you have, both personally and/or with others. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Problems or challenges at this time can force you to examine your motive and involvement within certain groups. Even if you general- ly prefer to work in isolation, you may be forced to work in cooperation with others during this period. Being open minded will help significantly. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you sense a desire for recognition and want to be treated well by others. Even when you are the center of attention, you aren't sure how you should express your affection because you prefer to take. It would be good to relax today and find your own way to initiate creative activities. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Personality traits which you dislike may come to the surface. Don't try to suppress them but learn to accept this part of yourself. When you manage this you will return to a state of inner harmony. Almost everyone has had unpleasant emotions which just won't disappear, but talking to other people about it will quickly confirm that it is part of being human. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Contact with members of the opposite sex are in favor today. This is because you are more at ease, and therefore it is also a good time to engage in social activities, particularly in your home. This is also a good time to work on any unresolv- ed area of your emotional life. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Today you will sense a deep longing to confront other people's problems and concerns. Being able to hold Neptune's overcast temperament in check, you will have no need to seek escape in reverie. Because this time favors activities with others, today others may ask for your assistance and you will react as though you had been waiting for just that. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) At times, certain unconscious feelings may surface that causes you to act in a more secretive manner, in order to hide such feelings from others. This occurs if you sense that others will not accept you if they found out. Try to balance your conscious feelings with those of your sub-conscious feelings. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may be confronted by people who challenge your objectives in the outer world. Conflicts with others may arise, especial- ly with managers or those in authority. If conflicts do arise, try to learn from the situation, and don't be too demoralized. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You should try to be aware of any inconsistency in the way you present your feelings towards others. If this is the case, meditate on a greater balance between your emotional feelings and the surface conscious mind. Try to be aware as to whether you possess sufficient humility."}, {"response": 1198, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (21:48)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday January 3, 2000 Controversy: He is a producer, director and avid basketball fan of the New York Knicks. His films are controversial, often accused of encouraging riotous activity among viewers. Spike Lee, a Pisces, plays cameo roles in most of his films. Some critics dub him a genius. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Push hard, cycle is high, make contacts, appointments. You will be at right place at crucial moment. Act as if you're aware of it. Capricorn plays role. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Look behind scenes, someone may be following you. Finish what was started and then abandoned. Views will be vindicated, open lines of communication. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look beyond the immediate, make fresh start in new direction. Long-distance call could be received from long-lost relative. Leo plays major role. CANCER (June 21- July 22): Focus on family, home, search for comfortable living. Marital status figures prominently. Another Cancer native plays exciting role. Don't stop now! LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Don't be afraid to laugh out loud. Humor becomes major ally. Keep resolutions concerning exercise and nutrition. Gemini, Sagittarius persons figure in scenario. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Be willing to revise, review and rewrite. Learn by teaching. Check details, be aware of plumbing. Scorpio relative is temperamental, has right to be. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Be ready for change of itinerary, read and write, disseminate information. Former pupil requests reunion. Acquiesce but don't get caught in wild goose chase. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Attention revolves around harmonious living. Money owed will be paid. Don't force issues, emphasize diplomacy. Taurus, Libra play memorable roles. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Define terms, avoid self-deception. Maintain an aura of mystery. Don't tell all. See people as they are, not merely as you wish they could be. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Exhibit power without being overbearing. Focus on organization, priorities, distribution. Get rid of white elephant. Property value involved. Sell without regret. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Let go of losing proposition. Refuse to carry burden not your own. Short trip involved. Keep out of traffic jams. Aries decides to become your ally. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Shake off emotional lethargy. Stand tall. Don't follow others. Emphasize independence and originality. Love relationship intense. Leo figures prominently. IF JANUARY 3RD IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: Your sense of humor is contagious. You are not easy to know but those who do know you are delighted. Gemini, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: C, L, U. You're on precipice of being participant in big financial doings. During February a different kind of love and romance is on agenda."}, {"response": 1199, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (22:22)", "body": "January 3, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It may be easier to put off a difficult task until tomorrow but you would be better not to have it hanging over your head. Tackle it today so you can get it off your plate. You'll like the feeling of having that weight lifted off your shoulders. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Are you trying to get an idea off the ground? This would be a great day to mention your desires to another because they have a connection that will give you some information. Thank the Cancer for their help -- it's invaluable! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You feel like your all over the place today and you can't concentrate. Take some time to center yourself. You'll need to do this since a big project is going to be dropped on your lap. Get ready to work! WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A message is skewed and the wrong information could be delivered to you. Don't accept things on face value - check with others to make sure this information is correct. You'll be glad you took care of this before you had to do damage control."}, {"response": 1200, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jan 3, 2001 (16:39)", "body": "leo is my brother but i don't expect any calls from him--- the big project has already been placed in my lap-- and so far, no deep significant talks with the AM!"}, {"response": 1201, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jan 3, 2001 (20:28)", "body": "ohmygod, i am on the phone talking to my brother!"}, {"response": 1202, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 4, 2001 (15:33)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday January 4, 2001 Bette: Many women are her fans, but many express shock during her talks. Her sense of humor is raucous, her ability to entertain unquestioned. She has been described as being ultra-sensitive to rough-and-ready. Bette Midler, Sagittarius, does things her own way; and they turn out to be the right way. This year, she will travel and perhaps produce a movie in a foreign land. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): You will finish favorite project. Relationship that ends is not really the end. Healing process is under way. Love brings about reunion in dramatic manner. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Cycle high, what was thought to be impossible will be accomplished. People are drawn to you; fame, fortune could await. Leo, Aquarius persons figure prominently. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Question of partnership and marriage looms large. Family member wants to be with you for a greater length of time. Be accommodating and hold tight to principles. CANCER (June 21- July 22): Laugh at your own foibles, try new wardrobe, realize you are attractive and sexy. Include family in upcoming adventure. Gemini, Sagittarius play roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Lunar position coincides with promotion of business and career. Details require review, check plumbing facilities. Taurus, Scorpio persons are in scenario. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): New prospects featured -- don't stop now, you are close to obtaining objective. Focus on advertising, publishing and vigorous promotional campaign. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diplomacy wins, if you force issues you lose. Possibility exists for change of residence, marital status. Music plays, march to your own tune. Aries featured. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Hold back, play waiting game. Someone tempts you into premature action. Wait and win. Pisces, Virgo persons play exciting roles. Luck with number 7. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Don't hit yourself with sledgehammer words. Let the past be, build for the future. Protect valuables, lost money will be recovered. Capricorn involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Someone close to you offers wise counsel. Continue along the path, it is the right way. Love relationship heats up, could be too hot not to cool down. Libra represented. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Take new look at property, home. You need more room. If you insist, desire will be fulfilled. Don't follow others; wear bright colors. Leo figures prominently. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Focus on home, restoration of domestic harmony. Emotional fulfillment if you so permit. Make intelligent concession. Marital status figures prominently. IF JANUARY 4TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You were on your own while young. Your ideas did not fit family pattern. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters letter, initials in names: D, M, V. During February, you make fresh start in new direction. September will be your most creative, romantic and profitable month of 2001."}, {"response": 1203, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 4, 2001 (16:13)", "body": "January 4, 2000 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This day is especially suited for setting your own goals and starting to realize them. You have your own variety of \"healthy egotism\" and you could meet up with influen- tial people who will support you. This will enable you to approach your work with plenty of confidence whereby you probably won't hide your light under a bushel. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Try to avoid taking drugs or alcohol for a day or so, as your susceptibility to these could leave you vulnerable. This is because you are more sensitive than usual to the influence of chemicals and drugs. During this time of ultra-sensitivity, physical realities can dissolve. For some, a settled way of life can lose its sense of direc- tion, but this occurs to purify the soul. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today reason will meet with emotion. Logic doesn't have much room in your life, you prefer to respond from the gut. Thinking and acting objectively won't be the easi- est of tasks. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today harmonious powers are at work which could be useful for a new project. At the moment you have a lot of good ideas for putting them to constructive use without creat- ing stress. Physically, you are in good shape and you won't let the day go by without physical exertion. Even if it is strenuous you get a lot of enjoyment out of it. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) The wider issues of life beyond the home and family can be affected during the transit of the Sun in this house. Even if you are not the focus of attention by others, this is a time when you should consider your role and activities within society, the community or at work. Due to a natural charge of energy at this time, the opportunity exists to succeed more easily than at other times. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) This could be a day when a compromise is needed. Your will -power may be lacking. You may feel more restricted today in expressing affection to others and seek self-gratifying pleasures to the exclusion of others. Assertion is often tempered under this transit, to the point of laziness or wanting to take it easy. Delay buying non-essential items or concluding financial deals. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You could be challenged on your position or beliefs. This may occur as a result of a more direct expression by your- self of your perceptions of people and things. If you sense being in an over reactive mood, try to use restraint, whether in speech or driving! It's a great day for being tactful. By being cool, calm and collective, you will avoid the danger of stressing the body in some way. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today fate will present you with the challenge of taking care of your obligations and dealing with the consequences of your actions. You have the chance to recognize the meaning of your work and deal rationally with the challenges of your daily life. If you are not in tune with yourself and are trying to avoid your obligations and deny assistance to others, this could make itself noticeable on the physical level in the form of an illness. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You may experience an emotional period when you feel notice- ably in tune with the life around you. As such, you are more able to become emotionally involved in what you are doing. This is a great time to naturally get in touch with your deepest feelings, perhaps through meditation. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) A time when you should find it easy to reach agreement with others. Some new friends or romance is possible. Your popu- larity can be enhanced. With this kind of flow, it is a good time to patch up any outstanding difficulties in any relation- ship, but only if you remain conscientious and open. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Your mind will be more alert today, and there can be a good sense of humor. With this, you are socially at ease, so this transit can favor get togethers. Mercury/Mars transits can induce a degree of mental independence, so you might be less inclined to perform the bidding of others PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today you are sociable, curious and entertaining, which is why it is easy for you to find the right words. You should open yourself to others and if you want to devote yourself to new fields, don't hesitate. Just pay attention that in conversations you give others a chance to talk. Don't try to always be the center of attention. Keep calm and stay in the background."}, {"response": 1204, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 4, 2001 (16:15)", "body": "Do these know me or what?! January 4, 2000 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn The usual craziness surrounds you today. Don't get frustrated. Even though you don't have your typical energy to handle it, try your best to get through it. A Scorpio will help to alleviate some of the pressure through their humor. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You need to think about how your actions impact others. A seemingly innocent action will set off a chain reaction affecting several others. Make sure you are doing things for your higher good, not for the sake of pleasing someone else. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Spend some time in nature today. You haven't experienced the joy of hugging a tree lately. Even if it's only for a few minutes, you'll find Mother Nature will provide you with the fuel and energy you need to keep going. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Tempers flare around you over something very petty. While you are great at mediating, stay out of this one. Let the big boss handle this. Instead of getting dragged into the dispute, you'll just be an innocent bystander."}, {"response": 1205, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 5, 2001 (16:14)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday January 5, 2001 Survival: He not only survived being stabbed nearly a dozen times, but he is back in uniform on the Boston Celtics basketball team. Paul Pierce, a Libran, is 23 years old and a survivor. Other Librans you might know include Mark McGuire, Michael Douglas, Margot Kidder, Tim Robbins and Jesse Jackson. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): New approach necessary, if you are to transform loss to profit. Emphasize original thinking, pioneering spirit. Leo plays dramatic role. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Analyze priorities, make positive use of them. Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership and marital status. Cancer native is in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your kind of day. Highlight versatility, make people laugh when they are ready to cry. Try on new wardrobe. Sagittarius, another Gemini featured. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Personality emphasized; includes sex appeal. Don't break too many hearts. Major wish will be fulfilled. Taurus, Scorpio persons play roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Be ready for change, short trip, variety of sensations. Relationship heats up, gets too hot not to cool down. Read, write, teach, find new ways of distribution. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Music plays, march to your own tune. Change of residence possible, marital status emphasized. Long-distance communication will verify views. Aries is in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): See people and relationships as they exist, not merely as you wish they could be. Avoid self-deception. Get promises in writing, checked by legal experts. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Power play! Don't back down from principles. Time's on your side. You are destined to win. Taurus, another Scorpio will dominate scenario. Number 8. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Come out of doldrums. You will be invited to participate in journey. Look beyond the immediate and examine various possibilities. Libra figures prominently. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Permit creative forces to surface. Make fresh start in new direction. A different kind of love awaits. Leo, Aquarius individuals figure in scenario. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Emphasis on direction, motivation, need for meditation. Focus also on sale or purchase of property, comfortable living quarters. Taurus plays dynamic role. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Diversify, entertain and be entertained. Highlight humor, ability to make intelligent choices. Keep health resolutions. Sagittarian edges way into picture. IF JANUARY 5TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are versatile, dynamic, creative and have natural ability as writer, psychologist and travel expert. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. During January, emotional excitement. Domestic adjustment featured in February. June will be your most romantic, profitable month of 2001."}, {"response": 1206, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 5, 2001 (16:15)", "body": "January 5, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) This could be a day of high mental energy with lots of talking or writing. The interchange with most people should be quite successful. Any important ideas that you have will be presented with greater clarity. This is a good time to perform an audit on your activities and goals. Are changes necessary and do you need to enlist the assistance of others? TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You may feel rather restless as your need for new experiences contrast with your need for security. If you are unable to get away during such times, watch programs about travel, or study maps and pictures of the world. Perhaps a hypno-meditative experience where you are guided somewhere pleasant could help greatly. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Temperamental feelings can arise if there is insufficient balance between the rational mind and the emotional part. You may be more inclined to discuss personal aspects of your past, especially with women. In addition, this could be a good time to process certain feelings. traditionally, this period helps getting along with women, it would be advantageous for you to talk with a woman about your in- ner struggles. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you generally make a positive impression on everybody making it easy for others to get along with you. Because a sextile aspect has always something to do with community it would be an advantage to seek cooperation with others, where- by recognition plays a large role for you, but today you don't have to worry, recognition is assured. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) The planet Pluto is at home in Scorpio so that it is probably easy for you to divorce yourself from outdated ideas. Even if this gets to be a very intensive period, keep on facing the future. This Mercury transit doesn't stand for uprising but merely opens the door to intellectual confrontations. This period may bring about negotiations on common property. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) You may hold intimate, yet quiet discussions with certain people. This often happens so that you may learn something about your purpose, or feelings. You could feel the need to become emotion- ally involved in what you are doing right now. If you are normal- ly unable to do this in your work, you might find it difficult to concentrate. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Feelings of de ja vue can occur during this brief transit. You should be able to interact well with others. You could express a higher degree of warmth and sensitivity towards other people, especially the opposite sex. In addition, a stronger nurturing instinct is often prevalent with family members and close friends. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your mind could be directed more towards recreational activities such as games and entertainment. Your communication may even be more direct than usual, so be careful that you do not say too much of \"how it is,\" and offend other peoples' sensitivity. Be sure to maintain a listening ear to people, and avoid over pro- jecting your thoughts. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) If you withdraw somewhat from every day experiences, it will not be to your disadvantage. Life at home will receive special atten- tion in this phase, but don't hesitate to make your observations from a safe distance, it won't do you any harm. If you live with your family, you will be able to make plans efficiently. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This could be a day of high spirits with lots of talking or writ- ing. There could be a heighten youthful feeling. You may start some special activity, even if you don't complete it! This could be a good time to start a new project or venture. With an adequate understanding of your needs, you should make plans for the future AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Probably this is a great time to assert yourself against compe- tition or to call attention to your strengths, although you pre- fer to sit back and observe what's going on. Maybe you will get close to your family and go on an outing together. The atmos- phere could warm up if you were to show your family how impor- tant they are to you. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Feelings of empathy can be very high during this transit. Many people might not recognize these energies because as you absorb them, they are melded with your own psyche. However, with medi- tation and inner understanding, you will gain much insight. Your inspiration is also likely to be more active as a result."}, {"response": 1207, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 5, 2001 (16:15)", "body": "January 5, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn A family member invites you to dinner. Even though you are tired from a long week, go out for a while. You'll find they'll bring up your energy and it will be just what you needed. Be nice -- offer to pick up the check. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Stick to your guns today. A Sagittarius is going to try and convince you that another position is best for you. Don't let them try to persuade you that this is better - you know in your heart what will work. Speak your mind professionally. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Happiness isn't tied into money so don't let others tell you otherwise. Even though a friend is trying to convince you of this, they'll be surprised that you actually teach them a lesson. Tell that Pisces friend, in a nice way, that you have all you need to be happy. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces An added responsibility comes your way. This may seem like a burden but take it on with a smile. You'll find this actually gets you out of the ho-hum of the daily routine and you'll enjoy something new!"}, {"response": 1208, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 6, 2001 (18:28)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday January 6, 2001 Blue Eyes: He is an Aquarian, a longstanding motion picture star. He is handsome, debonair and has portrayed a number of characters from villain to hero. He has blue eyes and it's rumored that Paul Newman gets his eye drops from France. His hobby is auto racing. Other Aquarians you might know include Kim Novak, Chris Rock, Clint Black, Ellen DeGeneres and John Travolta. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Financial pressure relieved, you find you are happy with what you have. Focus on marital partnership. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Cycle continues high, be selective, display ability to laugh at your own foibles. Element of luck rides with you, in matters of speculation stick with Number 3. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): You prove that you are capable of overcoming obstacles. Many people express admiration. You will be called upon to solve mathematical problem. Scorpio involved. CANCER (June 21- July 22): You will enjoy greater freedom of thought, action. Many hopes and wishes will be fulfilled. Participate in fund raising for worthy project. Gemini plays role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Sense of perception heightened. Emphasis on possible change of residence, marital status. Gift received, luxury item that helps make your home beautiful. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Check telephone number and mailing address of one in transit. Foreign nation could be involved. Romance questioned, protect self at close quarters, deception involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Show a different side of yourself. Some will claim you are being too business-like. Explain that this is you, take it or leave it. Capricorn plays fantastic role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Lie low, prepare to leave premises. Dramatic reunion set for tonight. You will know your love is not unrequited. Project will be completed. Aries involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Let go of preconceived notions. Don't follow others; create your own tradition. Keep tabs on health of pet. What you have been seeking becomes available. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Decision made concerning direction, motivation, meditation. Cancer native and another Capricorn play key roles. Value of property will be assessed. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): You could be talk of the town. Highlight versatility, willingness to investigate and report. Wardrobe looks just fine, be confident. Sagittarian involved. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Relative announces change of travel plans. Maintain emotional equilibrium. Everything will happen for the best. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio play fascinating roles. IF JANUARY 6TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You know how to keep a tune, are affectionate, appreciate fine arts, music and have unusual voice. You are always willing to take chance on romance. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: F, O, X. During this month, attention revolves around proposals, career, marriage. July will be your most memorable, profitable month of the year."}, {"response": 1209, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 10, 2001 (14:32)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday January 10, 2001 Look Homeward Angel: He was tall, well over 6 feet. He was a rough and tough Southerner. His books were lush poetry. He was attacked from both the Left and the Right. Thomas Wolfe, a Libran, was accused not only of being anti-Semitic but anti-Black. Intensive research failed to prove those charges. His lover of many years was Jewish. She denied he was anti-Semitic. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Emphasis on where you live and with whom. Distinct possibility of change of residence, marital status. Music will play, march to you own tune. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Confusion exists, could be blessing in disguise. Welcome delay, time is on your side. Protect self in emotional clinches. Pisces represented. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Financial transaction dominates. Don't be servile. You have plenty to offer. Others realize it. Lost valuables will be recovered. Capricorn plays role. CANCER (June 21- July 22): Cycle is such that you reach more people and benefit as a result. Loved one says, ``You've carried me long enough. I want to be on my own.'' LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Secret purchase comes to light. Stress independence. Luxury item helps make home beautiful. Aquarius, another Leo figure in scenario. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Many desires will be fulfilled. Question arises about what you really want. You could locate desired living quarters. If speculating, stick with number 2. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Good news received in connection with career. Display talent for making people laugh. One in authority praises, prepare for promotion. Sagittarius involved. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Revise, review and rewrite. What had been rejected could now be enthusiastically accepted. Realize difference between publicity and notoriety. Taurus plays role. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Keep plans flexible, take note of impressions, including dreams. You will be attractive, don't break too many hearts. Short trip involves relative. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Attention revolves around sale or purchase of property, home. Moon position highlights legal affairs, be on right side of the law. Libra is in picture. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Back off. You do not have true story. Check various factors. Deception exists, deliberate or otherwise. Get promises in writing. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Focus on power, authority and distribution. Moon position highlights creativity and physical attraction. We are seeing a different kind of Pisces. Enjoy flattery. IF JANUARY 10TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You are an original thinker, possess a pioneering spirit and do not consider life without love to be life at all. You are a survivor and have graduated from college of hard knocks. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. Current cycle relates to travel, romance and marriage. Most memorable months for you in 2001: March and December."}, {"response": 1210, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 10, 2001 (14:33)", "body": "January 10, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today be careful you do not sell yourself short when you receive that offer of backing for your new venture; keep the controlling interest. Use your esp to help you separate the truth from a line someone may be feeding you in the romance arena. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Working together today with a spouse or a partner in business is especially favored today as you seem to have the gift of gab that will put your major ideas across. You may also have an impractical side to you today and this you should guard against letting slip into your conversation. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) If you are engaged in doing some sort of creative work you will find your muse sitting on your shoulder as you feel particularly inspired today. Signing of contracts could also be a biggie for you today and these should be seen by a lawyer first...just in case. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today interests of the heart are emphasized and you find that the person you have fallen in love with is also in love with you! This would be a good time to make some plans for the future. If you are already a couple you will be much more in tune than you have been. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Hurt pride is always an unwelcome and unpleasant feeling but try not to make more out of it than it really is, it would be easy to blow it out of proportion and cause a rift with someone who only had your best interests at heart. Guard against 'getting even' by doing something outrageous. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Go with your instincts today as an inspired idea or a hunch will be right on target today whether it is about love or money...you have good instincts, trust yourself. Today the buying and selling of real estate is favored and you may be able to make the deal of a lifetime. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your powers of self expression is at a new high today and you will be able to sway the opinions of others with little or no effort. This ability is an inborn gift of God and should not be misused for only selfish motives that will benefit no one else but you. You would do it at your own peril. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Being a loner today is more the thing for you as you are in a 'mental' mood whereby you will be able to clear up things in your mind that has had you puzzled or upset for a long while. your thinking is clearer as well as your understand- ing of most situations. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) This is a good day for a stimulating exchange of ideas with a friend or relative that is particularly close to you. There are things you may need to talk about that you don't want just anybody to know and this person has been a trusted confidant for many years. Go ahead and unburden, it is good for the soul. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Avoid taking shortcuts in your work today as a good project could turn out looking pretty bad if you do. The same will hold true for your relationships, of all types. Put your heart in whatever you attempt today and be careful you do not say something in haste that will wound. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Rumors that may be making the rounds today are just that, rumors, and you need give them no further thought. Listen to a suggestion from a friend who may really have a good idea about your business, be sure to give credit for the ideas when they work out. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Meeting your spouse halfway in a quarrel may go against the grain but if you would preserve something precious between you, you will do it with no hesitation. Agreeing to a com- promise will be the best way to solve this dispute as then both parties can feel as if the victory is personal."}, {"response": 1211, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 10, 2001 (14:34)", "body": "January 10, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You'll get put on the spot in a meeting by someone who is not on your side. Take a deep breath and present your position. You'll be able to survive this inquisition beautifully -- you clearly know your stuff. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You are wearing yourself out -- take some time to rest. Even if you have to take the rest of the day off of work, you'll find it's worth it. You'll have more energy in the coming days if you take some time to recharge your batteries. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A friend may need you but you need to decide if getting involved is the best thing for you to do. Consider how your friend got into the situation in the first place. Is helping them actually hurting them in the long run? WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Have all your papers in order because you'll need to provide information for the boss about an important client. They'll want dates and memos -- make sure they are all in order. You needed to clean your office anyway."}, {"response": 1212, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 10, 2001 (21:59)", "body": "January 11, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) You will have trouble collecting money you loaned previously. Your work will be disrupted today due to intrusions by an irate friend, this is not good for your employment future, unless you are already self employed in any case, clear this up quickly. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) It will only mean more heartbreak for you when that old love comes knocking, it will be best if you don't let him/her in. Of course, if you feel like being used, you can make up with this person, but Invite a new love over tonight as a buffer against temptation. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A friend may seem superficial on the surface but this person comes through for you today when you find financial trouble staring you in the face. You may also meet with some unexpect- ed expenses that threaten to overwhelm you, but you manage to stay afloat. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Don't let anything you hear today, through the grapevine, color the way you feel about a certain person as rumors and hearsay may plague your footsteps. Pay absolutely no interest in them as the chances are very good that every one of them are false. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) With your creativity level at its lowest ebb, morning hours are rife with possibilities of of things going wrong. Things tend to slow down in the afternoon and then you start moving right along while the others are lagging behind. Do not try to pro- mote your interests today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) A loyal friend comes to your rescue in the romance department tonight when someone starts a false rumor about you. A dif- ficulty with a friendship may bother you today after a friend dodges his/her obligation to you. You don't like to have to ask, but in this case you may have to. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You have an unfinished job or project hanging in there that you really need to finish before you can expect to see any increase in income from this project. This is a good day to devote to completing it; work on it, don't worry about working on it. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Doing your own thing is very attractive to you but don't hurt, or ignore others, in the process; this could lead to difficul- ties, especially marital. Save yourself some major marriage problems today by watching your I don't give a d... attitude. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your energy level is high and you have a good day at work, scor- ing quite a few points with your boss. Evening may bring family disagreements but you should try very hard not to be overly crit- ical of a small child as children really do want to please their parents, CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) People with ideas far removed from yours still need to be heard even if not agreed with. You will run into people today who may have ideas that are very different from yours, use tact and in all your dealings at work. Encouragement comes from unusual places. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may find that the new person in the office got confused and changed your schedule all around today. Don't worry, it won't happen again if you use understanding in instructing this per- son. Be sure you leave your frustration at work as it won't be appreaciated at home. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Finish a creative project today as it has hung in there long enough. Today, through the actions of others you know to be highly unpredictable you find yourself in a mixup regarding plans and engagements. This could work to your advantage as you may miss meeting someone that you would really rather not see."}, {"response": 1213, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 10, 2001 (22:02)", "body": "Gee, how did they know house troll bought more junk on my AOL account??! That was what the fight was about..again!"}, {"response": 1214, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 10, 2001 (22:47)", "body": "January 11, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You'll receive a compliment from a respected colleague. The extra hours and hard work you've been putting in has really paid off, so there is no reason to wonder about motive -- the praise is well deserved. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Reach out to someone you have lost touch with recently. There has been a misunderstanding that has caused this strain. Take the high road and make that phone call. You can clear all of it up in a couple of minutes. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You need to have a lot of patience today. There are those who will be getting on your last nerve but you can deal with them with a smile. Get out of the office for a few minutes, even if you have to walk around the block. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Tonight would be great to socialize with people you haven't seen in a while. You should get home early, though, you still have to get up early the next day. You don't want to sleep through your alarm!"}, {"response": 1215, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 14, 2001 (16:55)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday January 14, 2001 Ann Rule: She is an author who specializes in crime stories. Ann Rule, a Libran, is known as the queen of true-crime writers. She gives this explanation for her success: ``I think I have a God-given instinct for people -- for knowing what makes them tick and for making them come alive on the page.'' She comes from a family of law enforcement officers. Ann Rule: True crime! ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Push aside superficiality to get to main objectives. Don't follow others, create your own tradition. Focus on creativity, love and excitement. Leo involved. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Creative juices stir, read and write, share knowledge. You are physically attractive today. Don't break too many hearts. Marital status in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Your kind of day. Utilize wit, humor and wisdom in connection with sale or purchase of property. Almost by chance you locate comfortable living quarters. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Handle details, be willing to revise, rewrite and to tear down in order to rebuild. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play key roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Keep plans flexible, imprint style, don't follow others. Romantic interests emphasized. Written notice will change itinerary. Virgo plays outstanding role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Highlight diplomacy and willingness to make intelligent concessions to family. Cycle high, judgment and intuition on target. Libra figures in scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Check Leo, Virgo messages for added information. Define terms, see people, relationships in realistic light. Be sure to get promises in writing. Mystery intrigues. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Power play! You could be part of major business and career transaction. Relationship sizzles. Short trip involves Capricorn. Avoid wild goose chase. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Look beyond the immediate, forecast your future and make it come true. Emphasis on universal appeal, possible journey overseas. Dramatic reunion tonight. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Check Scorpio message. Make fresh start and maintain creative control. Highlight original thinking, do not follow others. Avoid heavy lifting if possible. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): If married, spark that brought you together will re-ignite. If single, you could encounter future mate. Emphasize direction, motivation and need for meditation. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Sense of humor is your ally. Accent versatility, diversity and intellectual curiosity. New wardrobe fits and it looks fine. Sagittarian plays key role. IF JAN. 14 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You have natural skill as writer and psychologist. You are drawn to the mantic arts, including astrology. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: E, N, W. During this year expect to travel and to participate in political and humanitarian projects. August will be your most romantic, creative and profitable month."}, {"response": 1216, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 14, 2001 (23:15)", "body": "January 15, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today your relationships will take center stage, especially your relationships to the opposite sex. An existing partner- ship can become more important to you or you may enter a new one. This is the time to rethink your behavior towards others and bring understanding into your partnership. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today you will get deeper into your psyche and your spiritual life. Even if your daily obligations keep you from taking time for your self, you should try to find the golden mean, which will allow you to create the balance between your own needs and the needs of others. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Being aware of your constant dependency on the cooperation of others, allows you to appreciate the situation. Intensify your contacts which have been important to you in the past. If you are in negotiations, this transit will contribute to their success. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Personality traits which you dislike may come to the surface in those you love. Don't try to change them, learn to accept this as a part of the whole. When you manage this you will return to a state of inner harmony. Everyone has their faults which just won't disappear on their own. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may feel inclined to pursue a new hobby, an intellectual study or even enroll in a new class. So long as your mind can be stimulated, this will tend to be your motive. Some indivi- duals will find that their intellectual stimulation is direct- ed to an area of the law that involves some sort of principle. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) It is time for expansion on all levels, the time is also favor- able for learning something new. Also a trip would do you good, or a seminar or an adult education course could set things in motion for you. Possibly you will meet people who come from far away and provide new insights into foreign cultures. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your own affairs should be very important to you at this time and maybe you will also find answers which you have been look- ing for a long time. You should have enough strength and energy to present yourself in a positive light and to secure your position in life. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Try to be aware of any greed, possessiveness and over-moraliz- ing during this time. This is a period in which you are able to purify your relationship with personal resources. Should you feel a need to exhibit certain personal items, it should be done with humility and a sense of sharing your pleasure. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your focus during today could be directed towards your immediate environment. This is the interaction with people you casually deal with on a daily basis, such as neighbors, friends and bus- iness colleagues. During this day, try to personalize your relationships with such people in a balanced way. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) If you have been unable to settle down, you may find yourself setting up a sound base for future activities. Some individuals may resurrect a hobby or activity that they found gratifying when they were young. This is a good time to meditate in order to get in touch with your deepest feelings. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Home will have more meaning to you. You want everything to go smoothly in this area and are prepared to work for it. Redec- orate your apartment or invite your parents over, that could have a positive effect on you. Today an emphasis on harmony and free expression will fill your circle of friends with positive relationships. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Your mind is focused more on success and this success depends on the extra effort you make in this direction. You should feel good today, both psychologically and physically. There could be a stronger idealistic tendency about you, but try not to let this get out of hand. You will interact well with others. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may be dealing with news from far-away family or friends today - perhaps it's time you arranged for a long-overdue visit. A change of scenery is probably a good idea in any event - so plan a trip or an outing, if not for today, then for the near future. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Put on your running shoes because you'll be having a very hectic day. A chain reaction will get set off and you'll have to visit several places. You might get into a disagreement with a Scorpio type but it's not going to be anything serious. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You may find out something distressing about a celebrity you admire. If you're feeling despondent today, try not to let your mood disrupt personal relationships. Everyone needs a little down time once in a while - today it's your turn. Tomorrow will be a lot brighter. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Wisdom and serenity are the keywords today - whether you are exuding these qualities, or you are influenced by these gifts in someone else. An old wives' tale will ring true "}, {"response": 1217, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 14, 2001 (23:18)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday January 15, 2001 Julie London: She died in October 2000. She was a smoky-voiced torch singer. Julie London, a Libran, did not believe she could sing. However, her albums sold in the hundreds of thousands. She was married twice, once to Jack Webb, once to Bobby Troup. She had been an elevator operator when a talent agent discovered her. She once declared, ``I'm strictly the housewife-mother type.'' ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Go slow, play waiting game. Be positive of legal rights, permissions. Focus on partnership, marital status, public appearances. Timing important! TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Find different ways of getting job done. Take special care while handling mechanical devices. You'll be chosen to conduct social gathering. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Be observant of details, rules. Avoid traffic jams, crowds. Get ideas on paper. You'll be noticed by big wigs. Scorpio involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Focus on change, travel, variety of experiences. Flirtation getting hot, heavy. Know when to say, ``Enough!'' Written material proves important. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Attention revolves around home, domestic issues, reunion with relative. Don't try to please everyone. Have fun doing what you do, and do it well. Taurus represented. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Be especially cautious in money deal. Aura of deception exists, deliberate or otherwise. Lost valuable will be recovered. Pisces plays sensational role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You could be talk of the town. Impart knowledge concerning music, composers. Don't keep that part of your talent hidden. Cancer, Capricorn figure in scenario. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Finish what you started three months ago. You will now receive support, moral and financial. Open lines of communication; someone wants to tell you something. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Let go of preconceived notions. What had been impossible is now within reach. A different kind of love is on horizon. Take initiative, display courage of convictions. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): What you thought was settled could be just beginning. Check property value, management team. Refuse to be taken for granted. Cancer native involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Diversify, select quality, find outlet for your artistic capabilities. Sea cruise brings you in contact with exciting, intellectual people. Sagittarian featured. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Focus on construction, testing solidity of material. Make this your make-over day. Visit to foreign nation may be in picture. Prepare creative presentation. IF JAN. 15 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you have unusual voice, can bring people of opposite views together and finally result in friendship. Taurus, Libra, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters or initials in names: F, O, X. During this cycle, you could discover romance in new, unusual manner. Before January is finished, emphasis is on partnership, cooperative efforts, marriage. July most memorable."}, {"response": 1218, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jan 15, 2001 (12:05)", "body": "i certainly hope the bigwigs notice me due to a good thing and not because i screwed something up!"}, {"response": 1219, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 15, 2001 (23:39)", "body": "I hear you!! Me too, Sweetie. *HUGS* January 16, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You may find more strength and stability today than you've felt in a long time. It's nice to stand on your own two feet. Someone you've been assisting may be ready to go it alone now as well. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You may be feeling impatient and even a little reckless today - you'd rather jump into something and darn the consequences, than just playing the waiting game. Just make sure you consider the depths of the waters you are jumping into so that you don't find it way over your head. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Make sure to have your cell phone charged because you'll need to get in touch with someone while you're out on the town. It may be to rescue you from a weird situation. Have some extra cash on you just in case. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces All the pieces have finally come together to make your business plan a solid one. Though you may be scared to ask for help, find the courage to make your request. Roll up your sleeves, you're going to be elbow deep in work soon!"}, {"response": 1220, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 16, 2001 (23:10)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Wednesday January 17, 2001 Larry Flynt: Perhaps the most controversial publisher in the United States, he was the victim of an assassination attempt, and once ran for president so that he would be free to get his message across on radio and television. Larry Flynt has spent time in jail, and says and writes what he wants with no regard for diplomacy. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Check behind scenes; secret is revealed, you might wonder why it took so long. Upset apple cart, step in during middle of controversy. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Lie low, play waiting game. What you want or need will be granted if you put it in writing. Romantic liaison gets too hot not to cool down. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Attention revolves around home, family, sound of your voice. March to your own tune, be firm but make intelligent concession. Libra plays role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Define terms, get promises in writing. See others in realistic light, avoid self-deception. Family member tells you what is already known. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on business, career, added responsibility, pressure previously unknown. Property value estimated, worth more than expected. Capricorn figures prominently. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Strive for universal appeal. Short trip involves relative in search of legal document. Burden lifted; you'll be happier as result. Aries is in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Lost article retrieved; find new ways of increasing income. Don't follow others, imprint your own style. Romantic tryst with Leo individual is exciting. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Focus on partnership, publicity, home improvement, marital status. Cycle high, take risk in order to achieve objective. Cancer native involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Diversify, make inquiries, try on new wardrobe. Sharpen sense of humor, emphasize ability to make people laugh. Gemini plays clown role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Revise, review, rewrite, tear down in order to rebuild. Utilize powers of persuasion. Win friends and influence people. Stick with No. 4. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Change, variety of experiences, ability to write, teach is accented. Personal magnetism translates to sex appeal. Avoid breaking hearts. Sagittarian involved. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): You win easily with help of family. Focus on beauty, romance, music. Relationship exciting, could prove expensive. Libra plays dynamic role. IF JAN. 17 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... when pressure is on you are up to it. You enjoy responsibility, have natural executive ability. You are romantic to degree of passion. Capricorn, Cancer persons play dramatic roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. Social life accelerates, people want to be with you, but at times you would like to be alone. May will be your most memorable month."}, {"response": 1221, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 16, 2001 (23:12)", "body": "January 17, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Today be careful you do not sell yourself short when you receive that offer of backing for your new venture; keep the controlling interest. Use your esp to help you separate the truth from a line someone may be feeding you in the romance arena. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Working together today with a spouse or a partner in business is especially favored today as you seem to have the gift of gab that will put your major ideas across. You may also have an impractical side to you today and this you should guard against letting slip into your conversation. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) If you are engaged in doing some sort of creative work you will find your muse sitting on your shoulder as you feel particularly inspired today. Signing of contracts could also be a biggie for you today and these should be seen by a lawyer first...just in case. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today interests of the heart are emphasized and you find that the person you have fallen in love with is also in love with you! This would be a good time to make some plans for the future. If you are already a couple you will be much more in tune than you have been. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Hurt pride is always an unwelcome and unpleasant feeling but try not to make more out of it than it really is, it would be easy to blow it out of proportion and cause a rift with some- one who only had your best interests at heart. Guard against 'getting even' by doing something outrageous. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Go with your instincts today as an inspired idea or a hunch will be right on target today whether it is about love or money...you have good instincts, trust yourself. Today the uying and selling of real estate is favored and you may be able to make the deal of a lifetime. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Your powers of self expression is at a new high today and you will be able to sway the opinions of others with little or no effort. This ability is an inborn gift of God and should not be misused for only selfish motives that will benefit no one else but you. You would do it at your own peril. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Being a loner today is more the thing for you as you are in a 'mental' mood whereby you will be able to clear up things in your mind that has had you puzzled or upset for a long while. your thinking is clearer as well as your understanding of most situations. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) This is a good day for a stimulating exchange of ideas with a friend or relative that is particularly close to you. There are things you may need to talk about that you don't want just anybody to know and this person has been a trusted confidant for many years. Go ahead and unburden, it is good for the soul. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Avoid taking shortcuts in your work today as a good project could turn out looking pretty bad if you do. The same will hold true for your relationships, of all types. Put your heart in whatever you attempt today and be careful you do not say something in haste that will wound. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Rumors that may be making the rounds today are just that, rumors, and you need give them no further thought. Listen to a suggestion from a friend who may really have a good idea about your business, be sure to give credit for the ideas when they work out. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Meeting your spouse halfway in a quarrel may go against the grain but if you would preserve something precious between you, you will do it with no hesitation. Agreeing to a com- promise will be the best way to solve this dispute as then both parties can feel as if the victory is personal."}, {"response": 1222, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 16, 2001 (23:14)", "body": "January 17, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn If you remember your childhood games of Pin the Tail on the Donkey, then you'll have an indication of the vibes for today. You are being asked to make a move, but you feel like you've been blindfolded and spun around a few times. Oh well - why not just revel in the sheer joy of the dizziness and let that inner child have some fun. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius No matter what you do today, nothing seems to be going right. It's really not your fault -- you're the victim of circumstances that were put in place along time ago. Just grin and bear it because today will be over soon enough. Focus on something you enjoy! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra If there's a goal you've been trying to reach, today is the day to jump high and grab the prize. And don't forget to let yourself enjoy the many admiring glances that will come your way when the trophy goes to you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces The number influencing you these days is 8. Consider situations you're dealing with for karmic lessons. That includes any restrictions you're feeling - what exactly is holding you back and why? See if you can break out of any vicious circles you see in your circumstances. Listen to sound advice."}, {"response": 1223, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 18, 2001 (20:34)", "body": "January 18, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Your charm and smiles could enable you to make some valuable connections in your world today. Be graceful, and quietly accept the praise that will be coming your way today, don't protest, simply accept with a thank you. You may tend to run to excesses tonight, so do watch that spending. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Do not be unconventional in business dealings today nor resort to unethical dealings, as, when found out, it could go far to damage your reputation and sink your ship of state, possibly to an unrepairable extent. Dwelling on interests of the heart in the evening is highlighted for today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You may feel more like doing a lot of socializing today and you do, resulting in the meeting of a very important someone that you wish to make a part of your life. Give business your un- divided attention today as some of the deceptive trends from yesterday is still holding on. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today is yours if you take the initiative in going after what you want and overcoming your opposition. Be ethical and tactful, but by all means be firm and back up what you say, or promise. A person is only as good as his or her word, and his or her word is only as good as the person giving it. Reputation counts! LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Take a cue from the song: \"The Gambler\" today in business, and know when to hold em, know when to fold em. Getting in and out of a business proposition will call for some good timing on your part and you are just the one to be able to do this with precision. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Disruptive changes in plans may be difficult to cope with earlier in the day but things settle down in the afternoon, and you come to realize that these particular changes were much more for the better than you had dared hope. Gaining the affection of someone you care about could be an easy task tonight. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) This is a great day for either planning a party or actually partic- ipating in one! Either way, your mind will be mostly on social matters. If you work, try not to stray too far from what is going on around you as that may create a hazard on the job for either you, or a coworker. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) You will see a major amount of progress on the job this morning as you pursue and conquer that project that has had you stumped for days. Today the perfect design pops into your head and you go wow, where did that come from...Do you really need to ask? SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Your progress at work today could be an on again off again affair caused by your own self doubt. If you ever expect to accomplish your goals you are going to have to kick self doubt in the rear and get him out of your thinking. Evening brings romance. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) This may seem like a great day for going out for good times or a shopping binge but curbing these wild impulses is the thing you need to work on today as it would not be wise at this time to do other than your normal weekday routine. Leave kicking up your heels for the weekend. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You may think appliances have a way about them today of trying to break down every time you turn your back on them... chances are you are being nervous and over reactive; just have the fridge, or whatever, fixed and forget about it. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A mix-up in communications may cause a drastic change of plans for you today, but the change is not all bad so rolling with the flow is very much the thing to do. A quiet, romantic dinner in the evening will bring you and that special someone closer together; maybe you will be hearing bells? ========================================================================== EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn You'll see a ray of light today in any financial or legal matters that have been hanging over your head. If someone has been leaning on you for support, they may discover the strength to stand on their own today - a gentle nudge from you may help. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The hand that rocks the cradle has the perfect motion today - and life is grand. Go with the flow and enjoy the downs - they are only a prelude to the ups! Speaking of ups and downs - drop by the local playground and get on a swing, or visit and amusement park today - you'll have a ball! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Quality is more important than quantity. You could save a lot in time and aggravation if you do some extra research for what you want. You might have to pay a little more than you'd like but it's going to be worth it in the long run. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You'll be invited to a social event today. While you'll be tempted to stay home, push yourself to get out with your friends. Your mood will improve because the comedian in the crowd is paying a lot of attention to you."}, {"response": 1224, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 18, 2001 (20:39)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Thursday January 18, 2001 Banned Books: More of his books have been banned than any other leading author. Some consider his works, including ``Tropic of Cancer,'' to be literary masterpieces. Others regard him as a pornographer. Henry Miller, a Capricorn, claimed love as the theme of his works. He was born in Brooklyn, but his books are read throughout the world. He was a painter as well as a writer. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Secret meeting results in money changing hands. You'll be encouraged to proceed with creative endeavor. Flirtation more serious than anticipated. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Legal procedure necessary if rights, permissions are to be obtained. Focus on home, beautiful flowers, music, marital status. Libra involved. GEMINI (May 21-June 20) Someone attempts to deceive; be alert, protect self in close quarters. Employment picture subject to change. Be ready, move with the tide. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Emphasis on promotion, distribution, financial arrangements. Relationship serious, brings pleasure, costs money. Capricorn plays exciting role. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Accent showmanship, universal appeal, color coordination. Estimate property value, don't give up something close to you. Aries will play fantastic role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Those who thought you would fail will be bitterly disappointed. Highlight independence, pioneering spirit. Scorpio neighbor offers apology. Accept with grace. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You will be asking, ``Is this dij` vu?'' Familiar places, faces, marital status dominate. If married, addition to family possible in near future. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Make amends for recent tantrum. Focus on social life, intellectual curiosity, humor. Lost article retrieved, express thanks without being obsequious. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Some will say, ``Don't upset apple cart!'' Do plenty of ``upsetting'' -- it is expected of you. What previously failed will now succeed. Respond accordingly. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): You will have greater freedom of thought, action. Outlet discovered for creative talent. Express yourself, give and receive love. Gemini figures prominently. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): People look to you for solutions to their domestic problems. Be reasonable, kind. You will be rewarded for good deeds. Taurus, Scorpio play key roles. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): You've waited for this day. Maintain aura of mystery, don't tell all. Virgo confides big secret. Take information in stride. Get definition of terms. IF JAN. 18 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are a natural humanitarian, are drawn to psychology and the mantic arts, including astrology. Aries, Libra persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: I, R. By April your life will show improvement in areas of money, romance. During February you could change residence, marital status."}, {"response": 1225, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 18, 2001 (23:14)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday January 19, 2001 Lest We Forget: She received the first Tony Award as a Broadway star. As a child she had rickets and wore corrective boots. Later she became a dancer who thrilled audiences. She had only two parts in ``Can-Can,'' but was so sensational she received a pay raise and was elevated to stardom. Gwen Verdon, a Capricorn, was to Broadway dance what Ethel Merman was to Broadway song. She died Oct. 19, 2000. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Focus on home, family, marital status. Partial financial burden removed; you'll receive gift, luxury item, which helps make home beautiful. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Low cycle ends; you might be saying, ``About time!'' Avoid self-deception, see relationships as they actually exist. Pisces represented. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Power play! Be positive concerning legal rights, permissions. Focus on relationship that is serious, relates to marriage. Capricorn plays role. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Emphasis on personality, affair of the heart. Dramatic reunion takes place in foreign land. Aries, Libra individuals play unusual roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Fresh start proves beneficial. Don't follow others, imprint your own style. Within 24 hours you could be madly in love. Aquarian will figure prominently. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Accent on living quarters, partnership, marriage. Decide on direction, recognize motivation, value of meditation. Cancer, Capricorn are in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diversify, accept role as social arbiter. Give full rein to intellectual curiosity without scattering forces. Gemini, Sagittarius play meaningful roles. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Deal gingerly with another Scorpio who displays temperamental outburst. Cycle high, you will be at right place at crucial moment. Taurus also in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Within 24 hours what had been rejected will be accepted. Spotlight on change, travel, variety. Excellent for writing, perhaps starting a diary. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Be discreet, you could be dealing with classified information. People talk about you; you are on edge of fame, fortune, change of residence. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Define terms, see people, relationships in realistic light. Be wary about giving love. Element of deception involved. Virgo represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): What begins as adversity will boomerang in your favor. Money required is made available. Emerge from emotional shell. You have leading role. Capricorn involved. IF JAN. 19 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are independent, an original thinker, feel that you cannot live without love. You can be determined to degree of being stubborn. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in their names: A, S, J. Before January is finished, there could be change of residence, marital status. Memorable months this year: March and December."}, {"response": 1226, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 22, 2001 (04:06)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, January 22, 2001 Roger Clemens: He is a pitcher for the Yankees, his fast ball has been clocked at 95 mph. He is a Leo who enjoys the spotlight. Most opposing players would prefer not to face him. Predictions are that he will one day pitch a no-hit, no-run game. This Leo is headed for the Baseball Hall of Fame. Later, he will be in an executive position for the Yankees. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Advancement is indicated in career and business. You get added recognition and could be in love. Libra and another Aries will play starring roles. Number 9\ufffd TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Good lunar aspect coincides with travel, publication and romantic involvement. In this relationship, know when to say, ``Enough!'' Leo represented. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Decision reached in connection with home, property and marriage. Meditation could result in solution to dilemma. Bargain price may not be bargain at all. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Lie low, play waiting game. Focus on reputation, partnership, legal maneuver. Test waters before plunging in. Gemini, Sagittarius play roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Be positive concerning quality material. What seems a defeat will boomerang in your favor. Loan will go through. Taurus, Scorpio persons in picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Be ready for change of scene, read and write, teach and learn. Physical attraction dominates, maintain emotional equilibrium. Gemini involved. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Focus on sound, music, important domestic adjustment relating to marital status. If you're diplomatic, you'll win. Don't attempt to force issues. Taurus featured. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Define terms. See people and relationships in a realistic light. Protect self at close quarters. Don't waste your love on unworthy person. Deception involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): People talk about you, write to you, some urge you to move to foreign country. You'll be offered high-paying position. Capricorn plays surprising role. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Look beyond the immediate, separation from loved one is temporary. You make amazing comeback, vitality returns. Aries, Libra persons dominate scenario. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Let go of preconceived notions. Emphasize originality, daring and pioneering spirit. Avoid heavy lifting. Take yet another chance on romance. Leo represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): In astonishing manner many hopes and wishes are fulfilled. In matters of speculation, stick with number 2. Elements of timing, luck ride with you. IF JANUARY 22nd IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you left parental discipline at a relatively early age. You chose unorthodox career, profession. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play memorable roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. During February, you make fresh start in new direction. Travel in March, hot romance. September will be your most profitable, romantic month of the year."}, {"response": 1227, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 25, 2001 (12:20)", "body": "January 25, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn An impatient attitude may be magnified today. Instead of brashly blundering ahead, use this time to take stock of where you've been and how far you've come. Are you still on the right road or is it time to adjust your course? Be especially careful with finances and investments today. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius The tone for a few days ahead is 'shake-up' - and dealing with the aftermath of a trend reversal. Movement, changes, out with the old - in with the new - you'll be getting your bearings this week. A thunderstorm may cause difficulties. A kind, generous woman will be there for you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra Movement and stimulating new experiences are highlighted, so channel your strengths into positive and decisive action. Watch for a tendency to be impulsive and overbearing, in order not to hurt those around you. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A dream can become a reality if you put your mind to it. Stop thinking you're unworthy of the prize or you'll never receive your reward. A little hard work and determination will bring you the abundance you're craving."}, {"response": 1228, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 25, 2001 (23:19)", "body": "January 26, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Curb extravagant spending today as you have a long, and possibly expensive, weekend coming up. Don't be surprised if you are hit with some out of town visitors which you have to spend time entertaining. Children will make you proud this weekend over a moral accomplishment. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today your travel should be for romantic reasons as you go to join a loved one or to get acquainted with some in-laws to be. An unusual opportunity should come your way soon so be ready to act on it as it will be fleeting. An after work party will keep you up very late tonight if you let it. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You can be very charming while asserting yourself so pour it on today to keep down the jealousy and resentments at work. You will be doing a lot of socializing now and you may just meet up with the \"right\" kind of people to help your career along. CANCER (June 22-July 22) A crisis move in progress may have you worn to a frazzle, but try to keep your nerves and your temper under control as others are feeling pretty bad about everything too. Others will find this a good day to chuck the job, just for today, and take the boat out for a fishing trip. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) You may be having some problems with an assignment or with a problem at work. But someone explains a key part to you and you grasp it in no time. As a couple, you and your spouse make an ideal pair, don't forget to tell him/her how much you are still in love. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Until you become more seasoned at what you are doing you should try to save your other sources of income as a cushion to fall back on...don't sell out and take a chance on hitting rock bot- tom. This would be a good time to start a \"don't touch\" savings account. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) You may need to treat a sensitive relative very gently today for if this person thinks you are trying to force or trick him into doing something he will balk...loudly. Even if what you want him to do is for his own welfare. This is a good day to go out bar- gain hunting. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't get frustrated on the job today as that can only make more things go wrong and lead to more frustration, etc, etc.. Take a long coffee break and clear your head and the problem will quickly solve itself, or you will know what to do with it. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You can do yourself in, money wise, at an auction today if you do not follow the bidding very carefully. Others will find that not keeping a close watch over their finances could bring some losses their way, losses you can ill afford at this time. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Researching for a small enterprise that you are interested in investing in is a good idea today. Try to focus on what can happen in the future since personnel has been revamped. You may have an unfinished project that keeps tugging at you so there is no time like the present to get it done and out of the way. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Delays and mixups could be your middle name as you come within hailing distance of Murpheys law. Afternoon gets better and you can actually feel the tension as it lifts off your neck and back. Evening promises a quiet time to relax and refresh your- self for the coming weekend. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) You may ignore your talk with a financial advisor today but it will be to your benefit not to. After all, you pay that person for good advice so why not take it and save yourself some grief. Treat authority figures with respect today and you will see your popularity increase. ========================= EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Some disappointment and concern may be clouding your mood. Someone may suffer a small injury. Watch out for people, including you, bumping or banging their heads today. Someone will turn to you for comfort. The nicest part is that you are able to smooth everything over. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Listen to your heart - and trust your intuition today. Enjoy your inner wisdom and trust that it comes from a deep well of knowledge and truth. Men: that feminine intuition is not just for women, you know! AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra It's time for some R and R - in fact, you are long overdue to take some time out for yourself. Sure, physically you can go, go, go - but what is your spirit running on? You may be visiting friends who are ill or convalescing today - encourage them to try to find an inner stillness too - it will re-energize them. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You've learned about a situation that has shaken your confidence. It's okay. This will pass and you'll come out on top. Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Breathe and calm yourself -- it will all blow over."}, {"response": 1229, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (11:52)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Friday, January 26, 2001 THEY SAID IT: ``You can run, but you can't hide!'' -- Joe Louis. ``A fallen woman is the easiest to pick up!'' -- Oscar Wilde. ``All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.'' -- Gloria Swanson. ``I want to be left alone!'' -- Greta Garbo. ``I forgot to duck!'' -- Jack Dempsey. ``Astrology is study that should be taken seriously.'' -- Norman Mailer. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Within 24 hours you will have greater freedom of thought, action. For now handle details, plug loopholes. Scorpio plays passionate role. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): People turn to you with their questions, problems. Be gracious, if you don't have answers, admit it. Flirtation is serious. Know when to say, ``Enough!'' GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Attention revolves around harmony, music, where you live and with whom. Domestic adjustment could pertain to residence, marital status. Libra represented. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Check percentages in financial transaction, lending or borrowing. Protect self in emotional clinches. Aura of deception is present. Pisces involved. LEO ( July 23-Aug. 22): Play waiting game. Time is on your side. Focus on organization, priorities, intense romantic relationship. Cancer, Capricorn persons play outstanding roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): It will be possible for you to predict your own future. Let go of burden. Give yourself time to travel; to take chance on romance. Aries is in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Let go of preconceived notions. Make fresh start, don't follow others. Wear bright colors that include yellow and gold. New kind of love is on the horizon. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Be lenient in correcting a family member whose purchases were extravagant. Focus on cooperative efforts, partnership and marriage. Capricorn involved. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Within 24 hours you'll receive instructions on how to reach goal. Highlight versatility and examine various aspects of question. CAPRICORN ( Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Tear down in order to rebuild. Make this your makeover day. A wish will come true in an extraordinary manner. Let it be known, ``Have talent, will travel!'' AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Be ready for change and a variety of sensations. Financial picture will be revised in your favor. Lost valuable retrieved tonight. Take dream seriously. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Cycle moves up, trust intuitive intellect. Focus on home, marital status and your ability to win though diplomacy. Aries, Libra persons play featured roles. IF JANUARY 26th IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... when pressure is on you are up to it. You possess extrasensory perception. You know what to do but do not always do it. You are a passionate lover. Capricorn, Cancer individuals play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: H, Q, Z. Travel, flirtation highlighted during February. May will be your most romantic, profitable month of the year."}, {"response": 1230, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (23:46)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Saturday, January 27, 2001 Sylvester Stallone: He is a Cancer native who, despite a slight speech impediment, became one of Hollywood's biggest stars. He says, ``I owe much of my success to astrology.'' Stallone's mother is an astrologer. She predicted that he would become an actor and a millionaire. The prediction came true. He declares, ``Anyone who laughs at astrology will have to face Rocky!'' ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Restriction is temporary. Get thoughts, ideas on paper. Gain indicated via written word. Get rid of groundless fears. Relationship is real. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Music plays, find your rhythm, dance to your own tune. Gift received, luxury item, this will help make home beautiful. Libra will play dynamic role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Stop! Think! You do not have the necessary information. Play the waiting game. Love relationship borders on deception. Protect self in emotional clinches. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Long-distance communication relates to possible journey to foreign land. Emphasis on power, authority and responsibility. Question of marriage looms large. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Added recognition featured. You'll be invited to speak to a prestigious group. Toss aside preconceived notions and reach beyond the immediate. Make predictions. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Emphasize independence, daring and pioneering spirit. Cycle moving up. Timing is on target. Romantic relationship gets hot and heavy. Leo plays role. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Your kind of day. Legal problem settled in your favor. Focus on partnership and marriage. Eight if cause is right! Cancer native is in picture. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Lighten up! Emphasize versatility, humor. Keep up with fashion news. Try on new wardrobe. You receive numerous compliments. Arrange social gathering. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): What was left behind 24 hours ago will be retrieved. You were the talk of the town in connection with a secret meeting. Make known your views. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Read and write, learn by teaching. Short trip involves relative who must retrieve lost papers. Relationship serious, protect self in emotional clinches. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Financial problem settled, home could be your own. Focus on diplomacy, sound of your voice. Turn on charm, be diplomatic. Taurus is in picture. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Utilize extra-sensory perception. Cycle high. You will be at right place at crucial moment. Don't bother to explain how to others. Virgo figures prominently. IF JANUARY 27th IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are a natural humanitarian who will fight for the underdog. You could be a world traveler, if you so desire. You are creative, romantic. At times you see the future in a crystal clear manner. Aries, Libra persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: I and R. During February, you could change residence and martial status. April most memorable for you in 2001."}, {"response": 1231, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 27, 2001 (23:36)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Sunday, January 28, 2001 What It Is: Astrology is the science and art of the synchronicity between planetary positions and mundane affairs, including human character and potential, which deal with the Jungian concept that everything born or done at this moment in time has the qualities of this moment in time. That's what it is, astrology, a subject that has attracted the finest minds of the time. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Family member confides secret, avoid accusatory tone. Focus on home, marital status, decorating, remodeling. Libra will play outstanding role. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Define terms, get promises in writing. Avoid self-deception. See people and relationships as they exist and not merely as you wish they could be. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Power play. You'll have more responsibility and pressure but you will be up to it. Capricorn, Cancer natives play major roles. Promotion is due. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Look beyond the immediate. Predict the future and make it come true. People are drawn to you with their problems. Be helpful but know when to say, ``Enough!'' LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Make fresh start, emphasize original thinking. Don't follow others, let them follow you. You'll encounter individual fascinated by the occult. Maintain equilibrium. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Focus on direction, motivation and the need for meditation. Questions concerning living quarters, marriage loom large. Don't equate delay with defeat. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You will have plenty to laugh at, including your own foibles. A co-worker makes a confession that could lead to a lasting friendship. Withhold judgment. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Your kind of day -- rewrite, review and rebuild. Relationship could get too hot not to cool down. Mathematical problem solved tonight. Taurus in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Keep plans flexible, read and write, learn by teaching. Flirtation serious, be aware of legal consequences. Written material saves the day. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Attention revolves around home, domestic harmony, music, possibility of changing residence, marital status. Taurus, Libra persons play key roles. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Play waiting game. Hold tight to valuables and refuse to give up something worthwhile for nothing. Psychic impressions will prove valid. Pisces represented. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): You could be talk of the town. Focus on production, responsibility and distribution. Relationship serious, could lead to marriage. Cancer, Capricorn persons play roles. IF JANUARY 28th IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are an independent thinker, at times you appear arrogant, you are not afraid to go where angels fear to tread. You are romantic, passionate. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. You will be tested in February. If you wait, you win. March and December will be your most romantic, profitable months of 2001."}, {"response": 1232, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 28, 2001 (22:18)", "body": "January 29, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn It's a great day to spend some time with a special friend or companion today - you will find much joy in seeing eye-to-eye with someone. You should find harmony and a balanced give and take in everything you do today. It's a wonderful time for sharing, negotiating, and reaching agreements of all kinds. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You'd like to move on today, but in order to do so, you have to stay alert and focused. Laziness + indecision = zero progress. If you have been wronged in some way, expect a turnabout or apology today.. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra A new idea is presented to you. You can change it into two possibilities available to you. However, you need to decide whether you want to go down this road in the first place. Don't make a decision too quickly -- ask for some time to decide. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces A loving and helpful Aquarian person may be on your mind today. It's a great day to nurture and to receive. Your angels are close to you and supportive of all your humanitarian efforts. There is a positive light shining on you - so soak up the glow. ------------------- ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Keeping your head down today will work for most people but not you. This is the day you need to get out there and sell your abilities to the highest bidder, in other words this is an ideal time to up- grade to a better job or a newer position. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) You have the ability to go far in your line of expertise and you make the most of your opportunities today. On other fronts, some- one out there may be thinking they are too old to learn something new, but that is far from the truth, the only important thing in this enterprise is your sharp, active mind. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) You have found an idea that you feel you can make work for you only to realize the thing has been used over and over. That does not matter, your ideas may be better than anyone else's, you can take a small idea and enlarge on it; competition only whets your appetite for excellence. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Don't drag your heels today with a loved one, because if you do, it is a sure bet that you will not be given any more time in his or her thoughts, wait until the excitement dies down and then you will be able to calmly talk out your differences. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Breaking up a partnership could get disastrous for your finances and the business so maybe it would be a better idea to concede a few points instead of losing the ball game. You may even grow to like the ideas he or she presents you with when you remove antag- onism from the picture. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) New designs and ideas are beginning to take hold and you will soon see some positive results. A new partnership could get off on the wrong foot if you do not draw up some papers to legalize it. Leav- ing something like this to chance could be disastrous for a sur- viving partner. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) A personal relationship may have you stressed to the max., and this would be a good day to plan to take a short trip to put some dis- tance between you and your problem. Once you can see the entire problem, you will have it well in hand. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Make the most of this day by going after what you want in the job market, for today you will get it. Home based ideas also look good. You are full of charm and wit today and you will find people are more open and receptive to you and your ideas. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) A short mini vacation is favored for you and a loved one. No spouse? ask a friend to go along and double your fun. Work today is mainly routine and you could get off fairly early which will give you a head start on this wonderful vacation. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Following your intuition will be a wise thing to do today as a strong urge, or feeling that you really should be somewhere, could put you in the right place at just the right time. If you are in business for yourself, you may find a new partner. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) A small upset on the job may put your employment in danger, but the truth wills out and you are cleared. Evening will bring a small disappointment that will lead to a greater satisfaction if you follow your heart on this matter. Listen to a friend tonight. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) A loved one will need all your attention tonight to keep him or her from making a life shattering mistake. Unexpected help from behind the scenes go in your favor today as you are given an on the spot promotion due to the actions of a certain person."}, {"response": 1233, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 29, 2001 (13:39)", "body": "Your Daily Horoscope for Monday, January 29, 2001 Coddling: Taurus persons, no matter what the age, enjoy being ``coddled.'' The other Venus sign, Libra, enjoys coddling, but often gives more affection than received. Treat Taurus as you would a baby, including baby talk, and you can't go wrong. Permit Libra to display affection and you win. Taurus and Libra, signs associated with Venus, find affection is as important to them as food and water. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Apparent setback boomerangs in your favor. Within 24 hours cycle moves up, you'll be cited for unique honor. Psychic faculties honed to razor-sharpness. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Pressure on, you will be up to it. Wish comes true. Tonight you could be ``in your glory.'' Capricorn, Cancer persons grab spotlight. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Individual in position of authority will be relieved of duty. This makes an opening for you. Take cold plunge into future. Aries represented. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Let go of preconceived notions. Imprint style, don't follow others. Focus on travel, excitement of romance. Leo, Aquarius individuals play roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Focus on direction, motivation and marital status. Financial maneuver will eventually favor you. Be receptive, don't attempt to force issues. Capricorn involved. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Diversify, give full play to intellectual curiosity. Social activities accelerate, initiate innovative program. Keep resolutions concerning diet. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Legal agreement will be reached within 24 hours. Consider seriously proposals that include business and marriage. Scorpio will play major role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Be ready for change of itinerary, read, write and teach. Member of opposite sex declares, ``I can hardly keep my hands off you!'' Virgo is in picture. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Attention revolves around home, familiar ground, beauty, romance and marriage. If diplomatic, you win. If you force issues, you lose. Taurus featured. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Get promises in writing, define terms and give attention to real estate opportunity. Relative who ``knows everything'' could fail miserably. Ask for help. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Insist on money being shown, not merely promised. Financial pressure relieved, you'll be looked upon as a ``leader.'' Accept the challenge of added responsibility. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): You are on precipice of fame and fortune. What was abandoned two months ago can now be successfully revived. Know it. Do something about it. IF JANUARY 29TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are intuitive and experienced a change of name not necessarily associated with marriage. You are a natural teacher and psychologist, and are drawn to the mantic arts that include astrology. Cancer, Capricorn, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. February and November will be your most romantic, profitable months of the year."}, {"response": 1234, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Jan 30, 2001 (07:59)", "body": "Here's some home stuff I posted: http://www.wholetech.com"}, {"response": 1235, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 30, 2001 (22:42)", "body": "Ok - will look as soon as I get this posted: January 31, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Old friends are Gods gift and new friends can be just as important to you, remember, no one can have too many friends. Today you will be introduced to some in-laws who will gradually be drawn to you and will eventually become the closest of your friends. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Today you could get a lot of career help from some unexpected developments that will definitely be in your favor, even if it is not at first apparent. Worry puts all those wrinkles in your face and doesn't help a soul do any better than they are doing. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) An investment offer comes your way today and you pluck it like the budding flower it is. Be careful you do not overpay as then you may feel like a plucked chicken. Marital squabbles should let up today as you and the spouse make a mutual agreement. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Marital relations are looking good today as you and your partner reach a mutual agreement concerning the childrens schooling. A sister in law also figures in this decision but he/she reserves opinion on the matter. An afternoon just made for kicking back. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) This is a great day for that party you have all planned for someone, be sure you have not forgotten to invite all his special friends, it should be a resounding success. Parents may demand some of your time today and you gladly give it to them. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) The weather is just starting to warm up and you will find most people in a better mood as they look ahead to the springtime. Being hit with the bureaucrats at work in the afternoon is not your idea of good clean fun. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) If you spend too much money on a certain person it could put quite a strain on your budget and not endear you to the one person who will have to deal with changing your spending habits once you are married. Catch up on your chores, at least that is productive. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today you get a chance to prove just how well equipped you are to handle the reins of the company as you assume control of your com- pany or district. Fair play business ethics will keep you on the top of the heap for many years to come. Your spouse is the ideal person with whom you should celebrate your good fortune. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) The financing for your new home is finalized today and you and the family pitch in and help the movers. Getting settled in will be the hard part so be sure to hang on to your temper as those nagging little irritations pop up. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Today you will have to be more flexible than normal as you will find many things you had in the works getting all changed around as people ignore your wishes and follow their own agendas. Pay no attention to them, just do your own thing today. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today is your day for creative planning; some of the ideas you come up with are brilliant, even the boss thinks so as he immediately makes one or two a mandatory routine for all employees. Take your spouse out for dinner, romance is in the air. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Be careful that you do not antagonize a friend today as it may just be the one person who's friendship you can't afford to lose. Advice that well meaning acquaintances give you tonight may not be approp- riate for your situation, so listen but don't take it. --------------------- EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Even in chaos, you have everything under control. There is a change in your work or daily environment but it will work out okay. While things may seem to be unsure right now, keep your cool and ride the wave. The storm will calm eventually. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius You will have fond thoughts and a great relationship with a water sign woman today. Let your emotions show - spread your innate kindness and warmth to those around you. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra As well as things have been going, you've been forgetting you still need some physical rest. You may feel that you're running too fast to stop - but if you apply the brakes really slowly - you can make that much needed pit-stop. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces You'll find things aren't always what they seem. A friend or coworker has been going through a tough time and they're taking it out on you. Sit down and talk to them -- you'll find their issues have nothing to do with you."}, {"response": 1236, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 31, 2001 (14:43)", "body": "******************** FEBRUARY OVERWIEW ******************** Astrological overview: Venus spends a great portion of this month in Aries, a fine place for her while Mars eventually moves from secretive Scorpio on into bodacious Sagittarius. Mercury, the littlest planet, has the biggest news as he bumps into Pisces, in the first week, then starts a backwards trek, all the way back through the preceding sign -- Aquarius. The little communicator's movement is going to be rather upsetting to all the air signs, most notably Gemini and Aquarius. In fact, Mr. Mercury and his backwards ways are the main influence, all month long. Aries [3. 21 - 4. 19]: Venus this and Venus that, and you're going to wonder if another planet is going to get any attention this month. Frankly, no. It's just much easier to concentrate on the one little one, that would be Miss Venus in all her shining glory. And as long as we're looking at her, and how she affects your sign, think about all the pleasures -- guilty pleasures -- which you should, could, would be enjoying if Mercury wasn't spending most of his time really playing at making your little deals seem like big deals. So be careful about over indulgence. You'll tend to want to have a good time, a little too much of a good thing, and then the timing is all wrong for this much fun. Get the idea? Slow down, maybe avoid the \"all you can eat\" buffet. You could take that as a challenge. Reminds me of just such a BBQ offer, and a friend of mine was determined to make sure he got his money's worth. It wasn't a pretty sight. He motored in under his own power, but by the end of the evening, we were pushing him out in a cart. I think it was that piece of pie which did him in. To be sure, he did get his money's worth, but at what price? So be a little careful during the next few weeks' time, and think twice before accepting that pleasurable challenge. Taurus [4. 19 - 5.20]: Pick up the pieces as the Taurus worlds seems to fall into a state of complete disrepair. Just pick up the pieces and keep moving. I'd suggest you keep moving forward, but that might not be the best idea, but you can always pretend. Make believe worlds are not always the best places to be, and a good Taurus doesn't live in a fantasy world -- but for right now, maybe even for the duration of this month, just such a place might be a better place to live. My little version of Taurus reality is a comfortable place where I don't have to work too hard, and the pleasure, the little pleasures which are so important, these can be found right at the end of my fingertips. But given the way the planets fall out of line right now, you might find this made up reality is a bit of a stretch. Close you eyes a little, give yourself a little stretch, arch you back some, and see if this doesn't seem to make it a little easier to reach that item, person, place, thing -- which seems to be evading your grasp. You might not make it, but you will feel much better. Gemini [5.21- 6. 21]: The Mercurial spin to the month does not spell doom and gloom, although, by the time this missive arrives, more than one Gemini will be complaining about the planet's errant behavior. See: it's not the particular planet's fault, no Mercury and his antics are easily predictable. The problem stems from the Gemini reactions to this. More often than not, I get frantic notes from the Gemini camp, about how everything in their lives are all messed up. The key is not to panic. Don't worry about the small stuff. Another friend has sage advice: \"Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.\" It might not make sense to a non-Gemini person right now, but this is a good rule to follow to make it through the coming month. Simple, sound advice. A little disconcerting, but by no means the end of the world. Although, at times, it will certainly feel like that. Cancer [6. 22 - 7. 22]: Yes, well let me tell you a little tale, it's a sad story about going with a new friend to a little town, just south of Austin, a place called Lockhart. What a good name for Valentine's Day, right? Get a lock on that heart. Anyway, this one little town is famous for several BBQ places. One was in business in the same location for 99 and a half years. Good stuff. When they moved, they ceremoniously carried burning embers from the old pit to the new location. Another place has been in the same family longer than any other BBQ place in Texas, possibly in the world. What can be said about Lockhart? Looks like they eat a lot of meat there. Now, I was out to impress this one person, so I suggested an outing to this town. Bound to find something to please her, right? Turns out, my big idea, my great idea, my idyllic afternoon dreams were a little shattered by one fact I overlooked: she was a Vegetarian. Instead of pulling a stunt like I did, I really recommend you check out all the facts first. Maybe even double check them. Nothing is worse, than lining up with your date at the BBQ counter, wat"}, {"response": 1237, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 31, 2001 (15:16)", "body": "Oh Wolfie, I HATE that we are in for another bad month. I thought the last one was bad...! For me it is too much of one Taurean and too little of the other. *Sigh* Patience, thy name is Cancer!"}, {"response": 1238, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jan 31, 2001 (15:59)", "body": "well, jan has been rough but not as bad as i had anticipated. it has, however, kept me so busy that i haven't been avail for my good girlfriend *HUGS* nottomention my wolfpack. at least they haven't tried to take over my alpha role *laugh* feb is looking rough only because of the workload i have but, marcia, we'll make it. we're gemini's and we're resilient!!"}, {"response": 1239, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb 1, 2001 (07:23)", "body": "What do they mean \"Mars is spinning right now\"? Are there times when Mars doesn't spin? This is in reference to Sag's being energized, twin girls."}, {"response": 1240, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 1, 2001 (18:55)", "body": "Mars is in retrograde gong back and forth (as it appears from here)... Probably so, Sag! Go for it!!! Februar 1, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Collaborating with a colleague is especially favored for today. It is also a good time for romance to blossom. Pay no attention to rumors that you hear today regarding a change in personal plans, things will go on as you hoped. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Socializing with people from the office is frowned on today as you could be asked professional favors that you feel would not be fair to the other employees. A networking acquaintance you made a few weeks back comes in handy for your business today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Avoid taking financial risks today in any area as the chances of loss is very high. This is a great time for romance and you and a loved one make some important plans for the future. A call after dark does your spirits good. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Your social graces will be a big asset today as you run into some colleagues at a social gathering. Check your finances closely today as an unexpected expenses could pop up tonight and catch you unprepared to pay. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Your interests will lie in sports and hobbies today; creative interests are also in the limelight for you. Charm, with just the smallest touches of aggressiveness will cause a few doors to open for you today. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Staying away from long shots or even short shot gambling is a wise thing for you to do as you run a better than normal chance of losing. However, shopping for home and family is smiled on today and you will find some very good buys. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Be practical in your business dealings today as this is not a good time to take chances or go out on a limb for someone else. Artistic interests is currently in favor as well as your romantic life. Love is there, open your eyes. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Spending time with your loved one is reccommended today to restore a lost sense of closeness. This is more important than socializing with friends after work. You may receive some news this afternoon that will not be strictly true. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Playing matchmaker today could go over like a lead balloon; best to let these two get to know each other without anyones help. They are both independent people. Planning a party today takes a lot of your time and energy but you feel good doing it. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) You will find the behind the scenes business developments act to your advantage when you are given a promotion. A friend has you worried by acting unpredictable when there does not seem to be a reason for it; evening brings an explanation. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) You have been spending entirely too much time indoors so now would be a good time to get out and mix and mingle with those you know and love. A romantic introduction could be yours through a friend, if you are eligible. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Connecting with someone special today will prove helpful to your business as you mis both business and pleasure with your normal Grace and charm. A friend may disappoint you to- night but remember that everyone does not see things the way you do. ----------------- ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Guard valuables. Someone wants something for nothing, wants to get it from you. Get commitments in writing. Refuse to be taken for granted. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Power play! Cycle high, you will be at right place at crucial moment. Relationship intense, could be too hot not to cool down. Money available. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Finish what you start. Toss aside fears and doubts. Create your own tradition, don't follow others. Aries, Libra individuals play starring roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Imprint style, don't follow others. Make fresh start. A different kind of love highlighted. Take a chance on romance. Leo will figure prominently. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Check Cancer message. Emphasis on home and marital status. Governmental project proves attractive, investigate! Accent pioneering spirit and original thinking. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Focus on travel, language and spiritual value. Be generous, but know when to say, ``Enough!'' Accept social invitation. Prosperity beckons. Sagittarian is in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Revise, review and rebuild. Get into your own rhythm, dance to your own tune. Someone deliberately places obstacle, hurdle it with grace. Taurus plays major role. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Missed opportunity will again be presented. This time, grab it. Focus on creativity, style and variety of sensations. Legal presentation needs polishing. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Domestic adjustment could include home beautiful, decorating and remodeling. Marital status also figures prominently. You could encounter future mate. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Creative juices activated. Emphasis on art, literature and ability to express yourself in your own way. Define terms, protect self in emotio"}, {"response": 1241, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 4, 2001 (16:27)", "body": "Your Horoscope for Sunday, February 4, 2001 Lucky Lindy: If he were alive he would be celebrating his birthday today. He was a modest pioneer in aviation who flew alone across the Atlantic Ocean, nonstop from New York to Paris. As a result, this Aquarian became an international hero. Charles Lindbergh was dubbed ``Lucky Lindy.'' The world held its breath during his flight and he was greeted with cheers when he landed in France. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): New relationship involves relatives. Focus on trips, visits and original thinking. Imprint style, don't follow others. Create your own tradition. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Focus on local politics and proposals that include business and marriage. You could find ``just the right place'' to live. Capricorn is in picture. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): A sense of humor gets you in and out of tight spots. Keep resolutions concerning health. Entertain and be entertained. Sagittarian figures prominently. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your kind of day! Gain a foothold on where you want to go and why. Taurus, Scorpio persons will play major roles. In matters of speculation, stick with number 4. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Popularity rating zooms. Elements of timing and luck ride with you. Don't get in your own way. Accept good fortune; you deserve it! Virgo plays top role. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Attention revolves around domestic harmony, music and your own rhythm. If single, you could encounter your future mate. Aries, Libra figure in scenario. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Refuse to be cajoled into making a snap decision. All is not what appears on surface. Element of deception present. Define terms and get promises in writing. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Emphasis on power, production, promotion, distribution and passion. Capricorn relative could display fit of temperament. Humor is your ally, laugh and so will others. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Lie low, opportunity will exist for travel, perhaps overseas. Be aware of legal consequences. Marital status figures prominently. Aries involved. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Control emotions, maintain equilibrium. Make fresh start. Let go of preconceived notions. Keep an open mind without being naove. Leo, Scorpio involved. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Emphasis on direction, motivation and buying and selling property. Spotlight on partnership, marriage and decision concerning living quarters. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Your ``psychic powers'' surge to the forefront. Intuitive intellect honed to razor sharpness. Try on a new wardrobe. You look just fine. Arrange social gatherings. IF FEBRUARY 4TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... while still young, you broke from family tradition. You are attractive, stubborn and romantic. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: D, M, V. During March, you will be sought after by people who want to wine and dine you. Where money and love are concerned, May will be your most memorable month."}, {"response": 1242, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 8, 2001 (23:39)", "body": "Fabruary 9, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Try to relax today and just let people be themselves and then you won't have to worry about trying to change them. to be honest, people don't change, they just hide it well when around a person who disapproves, so just live and let live. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) A friend offers to help you on a matter that you suddenly realize you should not do.Be a self starter on the job by finding things that need doing and then do them; you can bet the boss will offer you a raise. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Some friends are not really friends so be cautious. You are highly creative today but the boss may not like your approach to a par- ticular project he/she has outlined for you to do. It is much better to do it their way even if yours is the quickest. CANCER (June 22-July 22) An overly aggressive individual is not a happy person. A new job or position is possible today and it looks like a good one. A friend needs a shoulder to cry on and yours is always handy. Your advice is sound and you save your friend from making bad things, worse. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Everything you do today you do well and giving your children guidance they can live with is right on the money. However, do not get too wound up in their personal affairs as, being adults they have to lead their own lives and may not appreciate any active help. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) An old friend perks your interest when you realize that this person is feeling romantic about you. Look a little closer, you have only one attraction to this person and you can spell in in one word... money! So guard your finances well when around this so called friend. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Use some of your talents to help others today as they lose initiative and their hope. Putting money away for a rainy day is an excellent idea as the \"weather\" may be due for a drastic change sooner than you think. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) A short trip to refresh your mind and your energies today as work catches up to your nerves and you need a little time away from the grindstone. Try to make time for meditation today to get your phy- sical and mental harmonies more attuned. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) When you have to let someone go from the job you always have a hard time with it but you do what must be done as you have to put your business first and that does not always sit well with you. Rest assured you are a very good boss and gave the person every chance. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Being straight with a person is the only way as this person can tell if you are being honest or not. Apply common sense to your domestic situation and you will be able to remove a lot of the stress that is building up. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Moving into your new home will take up most of today. Everyone is overjoyed about the new place so try to keep hold of your temper so you do not spoil their fun. Remember, you only move into a place for the first time only. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) This is not a good time to go overboard on spending unless you need to purchase necessities; bargain hunting just came back into style. The business plans you have been working on show signs of becoming a reality. ------------------- Your Horoscope for Friday, February 9, 2001 Of All Things: Mark Twain, a Sagittarian who was one of America's greatest writers, was no stranger to astrology. He often consulted Evangeline Adams. Born when Halley's comet appeared, he declared that he would die when next it appeared. His prediction came true. His stories have become classics. Hurrah, Mark Twain! ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Face music early and attend to details. Focus on sound, music and your voice. Domestic adjustment could include a change of residence, marital status. Libra involved. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): An aura of mystery and romance featured. You attract members of opposite sex, some claim you broke their hearts. Be careful. The heart you break could be your own. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Focus on restriction, power and participation in what could become ``big financial transaction.'' Property could change hands. Be sure you get a fair deal. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Short trip involves reunion with one who returns from long journey. Strive for universal appeal. Participate in political-charitable campaigns. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Emphasis on income and the ability to locate lost article. Highlight original thinking. Don't follow others, let them follow you. Aquarius and another Leo play roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Cycle high, questions relating to partnership, marriage loom large. You could locate comfortable living quarters. You'll be at the right place at crucial moment. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Diversify, emphasize versatility and intellectual curiosity. You meet important people at social gathering. Come out of the dark into the light. Gemini represented. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Rewrite, rebuild, improve techniques and streamline procedures. Taurus and another S"}, {"response": 1243, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 8, 2001 (23:49)", "body": "Friday, February 9, 2001 EARTH ELEMENT: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn There is more to a sticky situation than meets the eye. While you think it might be better to watch out only for yourself, this situation doesn't call for that. Lay the facts out on all the angles you know about -- your candor will be appreciated. FIRE ELEMENT: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius Stop worrying how others are viewing you. You're being influenced by one particular person who is trying to shake your confidence. If you look behind their mask, you'll see the real reason why they are doing what they are doing. Cut this person loose -- you don't need the hassle. AIR ELEMENT: Aquarius, Gemini, Libra You've come to a crossroads on an important decision. You're now wondering if either road is the path you should take. Maybe it would be a good idea to sit down and have a picnic at the fork in the road before you make a decision! Ask a Pisces to give you a hand. WATER ELEMENT: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces It's been a stressful week and you've handled it well. Thank those who have helped you do some of the \"dirty work.\" Don't goof off -- finish work early so you can get a start on the weekend. Buy yourself a little present today. You need the pick me up."}, {"response": 1244, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 13, 2001 (15:29)", "body": "February 13, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Dealing with higher ups on a one on one basis today should be no sweat for you as you have more than enough confidence to pull it off and come away with a fat raise. Be sure you are clear on all the points you wish to make today. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Devoting time now to finishing an uncompleted project should be your focus today as you will get help from some unfamiliarly sources that really surprise you. Don't get involved in domestic quarrels today, especially someone elses. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Today is a good one for shopping for computers and other electronic equipment. If you find a good salesman you will be able to lean on his suggestions and if not then use your intuition in this matter. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Unexpected romance should be yours today as you accidentally meet someone who electrifies you right from the beginning. Don't be shy with this one as it won't pay off for you. Playing your cards right could net you a lifelong mate. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Looking too deep into a persons motives may not be wise today as it could bring some disillusionment and heartache. Ever one is not as altruistic as we would like for them to be. Best to just accept it on face value and keep your good feeling. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Opportunities at work open a clear path to your goals today so be ready to seize the moment and run with it. Friends who seek your advice today may not be so much in need of advice as they are of acceptance of their ideas. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Are you one of the creative ones? If so then this would be a good time to enlist the aid of a good agent to be able to field the offers that will soon be coming your way. There is nothing as for- midable as a good agent working for that personal percentage. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Keep a high profile today, making sure that those who count know you are around and just how valuable you really are. Show by example rather than with a lot of bragging. A favorite teen may give some pause for reflection tonight. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) The stars only indicate what may come if a certain personality quirk is not attended to. The stars do not demand as it is up to each person to choose their own path in life no matter what it may lead to. Choose wisely. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Meeting with prospective clients or future employers is indicated for today as your prospects for the future show a bug increase. The continued accent on romance makes that decision you need to make much more attractive. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Today finds you with a yen towards higher education, or at least some job training updates to futher your chances of a promotion at work. Your spouse may feel neglected a lot lately but you wise up today and find ways to make this person feel needed. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Buy yourself a gift today; you deserve it, and you've earned it. Be sure it is something shamelessly expensive though and shock those who have the idea you are miserly. A talk with business professionals today will give your career a big boost."}, {"response": 1245, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 14, 2001 (23:04)", "body": "OOOOOOO where is the 14th??? Happy Valentine's Day, Honey! February 15, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Living in the past will not do a thing to help your future so to be progressive you have to shake off those memories and forge ahead into the exciting future! Spend more time with friends and family, go out and make new acquaintances; learn to trust again. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) There are many things on the horizon for you but only if you reach for them will you be able to attain one to help you. Don't be shy about promoting yourself as most people are simply a mirror of the way we think of ourselves. Remember smiles are free, but worth their weight in gold. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Making decision are one of the things you are good at...sticking to them is a whole different story but today it will pay off big for you if you do not switch horses in the middle of the stream. Don't come off looking wishy washy to someone today. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Withdrawing into your shell and pouting in the nearest corner will not do anything towards helping you get your own way today, in fact, it could make you independent mate very aggravated and gone! At least for the duration of the pout. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Everyone is not going to agree with you today or any other day so it is best not to make a big deal out of it, remember that opinions are like fingers, most everyone has a few of their own. Take the grumpiness home and all you will do is upset the family without a cause. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Like it or not you are this years role model to some teens and you must strive to live up to their ideal of you. That is never really a problem for you as helping your fellowman and applying ethics to everything you do just comes naturally to you, sort of like a second nature. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) No one should ever take a risk with their reputation in business or personal life because you have no idea how important it is until you lose it...you could be a lifetime just trying to win it back! Ease up on the jealousy bit before you drive someone away from you...this person can be trusted. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Don't let the baggage from a former romance cloud this one as they are two different people with two different outlooks on life and their own code of ethics. If you dwell too much on someone elses mistakes you may find yourself making those same ones! SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) Dreams and goals, goals and dreams are the main interest for today as you find someone who not only shares your interests but is wil- ling to wait until some of those goals are achieved before wanting a commitment. This is a rare bird and you find she/he has flown into your heart. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Get out your sense of humor and dust it off as it has been unused for much too long. Putting all your heart and interest into get- ting ahead leaves a wide area of opportunity for neglecting some of the simpler forms of relaxation and entertainment. Get up and out! AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Saving for the future is the one thing you really need to do and can not bear to dwell on it too much as you are so Now oriented. No one will do it for you and you won't be young forever. Talk it over with a mate and put even a few dollars a week away and it will grow in time. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Pay attention to the small details today and the big ones will just naturally fall into place. Business opportunities come your way today which can either shore up a sagging financial base or increase an already stable one. Be ready to grab it before it passes you by."}, {"response": 1246, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 18, 2001 (13:25)", "body": "February 18, 2001 Your Horoscope for Sunday, February 18, 2001 Of All Things: The ``emotional signs'' are Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces. Intellectual: Gemini, Libra, Aquarius. Most inspirational: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius. Most determined: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn. When crises occur, the ``determined signs'' are wonderful to have around. For psychic impressions, choose Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. All signs, Fire, Earth, Air and Water, have their negative and positive traits. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): You could be called away from home due to special duty or promotion. Maintain emotional equilibrium. Superior holds you in high regard. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Avoid self-deception. Communicate with individual in distant city or foreign land. Focus on philosophy, psychology and theology. Advertise and publish. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Dig deep for information, answers you find will be ``surprising.'' Solution to engineering problem is imminent. Cancer, Capricorn persons play roles. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Look beyond the immediate. Family member wants to ``confess.'' Be sympathetic without being weak. Prepare for journey, you will be going places! LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): New methods of getting job done will become crystal clear. Imprint style, don't follow others. Emphasis on original thinking, pioneering spirit. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Focus on children, challenge, change and variety of sensations. Individual you admire will consult you. Be analytical, find out why events occurred. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Popularity zooms. Entertain, be entertained. New apparel will fit just fine. Gemini, Sagittarius will play major roles. Keep diet resolutions. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): People who were in awe of you will approach and say tender words. Short trip necessary in connection with relative. Don't get caught up in wild-goose chase. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Money comes from surprise source. Words important, read and write. Flirtation serious, could get too hot not to cool down. Gemini, Virgo play mysterious roles. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Cycle high, take initiative, present format, don't follow others. You will be at right place at crucial moment. Ride with tide, don't get in your own way. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Maintain aura of intrigue. Don't tell all, let others play guessing games. You exude sex appeal. Some say they can hardly keep their hands off you! PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): You will obtain funding to complete ``favorite'' project. People concerned with business, investments will be drawn to you. Capricorn figures prominently. IF FEBRUARY 18TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY... you are idealistic, a humanitarian, you will fight if cause is right. Aries, Libra persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: I, R. During this cycle emphasis is on change, travel, writing and marital status. Before February is finished you'll experience ``spiritual revelation.'' Most memorable months: March and December."}, {"response": 1247, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 18, 2001 (20:17)", "body": "February 19, 2001 Your Horoscope for Monday, February 19, 2001 Copernicus: This Pisces was one of the greatest scientists to walk across the stage of world history. Copernicus was responsible for the theory of placing the sun in the center of the solar system. His astronomical work was mainly to sharpen his astrological techniques. Nicolaus Copernicus was born in Poland. He revolutionized scientific thought with his Copernican theory. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Define terms, check real-estate values, opportunities. Someone is not telling entire truth, protect self in emotional clinches. Pisces involved. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Favorable lunar aspect coincides with ability to foretell future. Focus on idealism, spirituality and preparation for journey. Capricorn plays role. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Look beyond the immediate, let go of losing proposition. Separation from loved one is temporary. Dramatic reunion takes place in near future. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Push aside preconceived notions. Accent original thinking, the daring and new. Avoid heavy lifting, speak from the heart. Mingle humor with wisdom. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Family member helps in completing basic survey. Emphasis on household goods, plumbing. Proposals received: business, career, marriage. Cancer, Capricorn are in scenario. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Diversify, highlight humor and intellectual curiosity. Find out why things happened. New wardrobe makes you feel like a new person. Sagittarian in picture. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You may not be accustomed to current challenge, but you will win. Revise, review and rewrite. Be aware of property value and what to do about it. Scorpio represented. SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Read and write, be ``in touch'' with relative just completing journey. Flirtation serious, could lead to change of marital status. Virgo figures prominently. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Attention revolves around domestic issues that include repairs at home. Keep exercise, diet resolutions. You will get money's worth. Don't worry! CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Imprint style, cycle continues high, don't be too available. Maintain aura of mystery, intrigue. Avoid people who take you for granted. Pisces represented. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): Secret revealed, verifies views. Focus on promotion, responsibility, intense relationship. You get credit long overdue. Success crowns your efforts. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Participate in political, humanitarian project. Complete project started two months ago. You are on brink of international recognition. Aries, Libra play key roles. IF FEBRUARY 19TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY... you are independent in thought, action. At times you have ability to see and interpret the future. Always take care to protect right eye from injury. Leo, Aquarius persons play major roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: A, S, J. During current cycle you could change residence, marital status. November will be romantic, profitable."}, {"response": 1248, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Feb 19, 2001 (09:12)", "body": "Repairs at home? We finished the dry in for the meeting hall yesterday! http://www.wholetech.com (building a a conference center link)"}, {"response": 1249, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 20, 2001 (18:08)", "body": "Your Horoscope for Tuesday, February 20, 2001 Dwight Yoakam: This Scorpio is a country-western singer, actor and director. Dwight Yoakam looks the role, from cowboy boots and cowboy hat to jeans and guitar. He can look forward to making appearances in foreign countries next year. ``Music was my first love,'' he makes clear. Yoakam wrote his first song when he was 8 years old. Yoakam supports various charities, including Los Angeles Mission and animal rescue centers. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Within 24 hours many aspirations will be fulfilled. Tonight confer with one you admire, find out where you stand. Tomorrow major wish comes true. TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Perceive beyond the immediate -- you are being considered for adventurous mission. You'll be asked to do someone's job. Libra figures prominently. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Blend humor with independent thinking. Focus on inventiveness, relationship that ``grows in passion.'' Wear bright colors that include yellow, gold. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Your kind of day! Focus on home, family and marital status. Discover direction, be aware of motivation, and have time alone for meditation. Capricorn featured. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Diversify, socialize, advertise and publish. Popularity grows, people want to wine and dine you. New outfit looks good, don't break too many hearts. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22): Check tools, solidity of goods and materials. Remove safety hazards, don't play games with fire. Revise, review and rewrite. Taurus, Scorpio play sensational roles. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): You look good, feel good, creative juices stir. Member of opposite sex makes bold advance. Maintain emotional equilibrium. Yes, you will survive! SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21): Make intelligent concession to family member. You could change residence, marital status. If single, you might encounter future mate. Music will sound. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21): Define terms, see relationships as they are, not merely as you wish they could be. Psychic impression serves as reliable guide. Pisces, Virgo in picture. CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19): Focus on organization, priorities and added responsibility. Pressure on, you will be up to it. Last-minute appointment proves constructive, rewarding. AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18): People are drawn to you, they want you to tell their future! Do your best, know when to say, ``Enough!'' Aries, Libra persons play major roles. PISCES (Feb. 19-Mar. 20): Let go of preconceived notions. Highlight inventiveness, new start. Give romance another chance. You will encounter exciting, creative Leo. Aquarian also involved. IF FEBRUARY 20TH IS YOUR BIRTHDAY... you are emotional, sensitive and loyal to family. When you love, it is all the way. You do not always choose the ``right person'' to love. Capricorn, Cancer individuals play dynamic roles in your life, could have these letters, initials in names: B, K, T. Before February is finished, you will let go of losing proposition. In March you make fresh start in new direction."}, {"response": 1250, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Feb 21, 2001 (08:25)", "body": "OK. Pisces, Virgo?"}, {"response": 1251, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 21, 2001 (23:17)", "body": "None I know! February 22, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) Try not to be too tense and self-centered today and you would do good to try to relax and lighten your mood. Heavy thoughts will wear one down and you do not have the stamina to withstand a long bout of moodiness before you break away and start running with the wolves. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Getting your own way in certain things is not a guarantee of happiness so I would think long and hard before telling some- one that it is \"my way or the highway\", you could live to regret it. Take a calmer outlook and the urge will pass. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) Your new health regimen that you began right recently is still in full swing and you will soon see that new, springtime figure emerge. If you have made plans today to visit with the parents you may find that you must change them as another kind of minor emergency comes up. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Children will bring joy into your life today and much pride in their accomplishments. You are asked for an enormous favor today and you do it, and this brings you a particular kind of joy that is only felt when you know that you have done something excep- tionally right. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) A resolution you made for the new year is such a good idea that you decide to keep it for awhile. A friend comes to you for advice on his or her love life and you come up with a good answer that handles the problem for both parties. Children look up to you so this would not be good to show them your archilles heel. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Creative Virgo will be in the limelight today as one idea after another presents itself for your consideration, all are good but you must choose and you come up with the best one for your life style and working conditions. Do not let anyone sidetrack you today. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Losing your cool today with someone over things that deep down you know is your own fault, is not a very loving thing to do as this person is doing her level best to help you with your problem and you should show more gratitude than you have in the past few days. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Your skill at communications will shine through today as you give your presentation to the group, don't worry about your style as you have a natural one that enhances your every move. A loved one could be feeling a little neglected today so you plan a nice dinner out at a quiet, romantic place. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) It is likely that you could become the victim of a misunderstand- ing today with a good friend or a loved one and so you should take all the time you need to really understand what a person saying. You may be on the other side of the question, so you will need to explain yourself very clearly. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Giving someone the either or statement in a martial dispute today may just fall flat on its face as your spouse takes the or choice and now you have to decide if it is worth following through with. Try gentle talk and a loving attitude and you will not have to have that confrontation. Compromise. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) The self-employed may now find themselves in a mad rush to get the books caught up and the quarterly estimate done by april 15th. Take a deep breath and concentrate on calming down as that is the only way to accomplish your goal. Help is offered tonight and you gratefully accept. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) There is always room at the top and you find yourself on an upwardly moving path to the coveted key to the washroom. There will be some evidence of jealousy today over your pro- motion but don't let it bother you as this is normal for some people."}, {"response": 1252, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 23, 2001 (21:04)", "body": "February 23, 2001 ARIES (Mar. 21- April 20) A creative idea will get you off and running with the best idea you have ever had. Working out the details and the designs will get you well on your way to realizing your dream. Get as many people involved as you can, they will be a big help to you. TAURUS (Apr. 21- may 21) Ignore a 'good' deal that comes your way about today as it is not good and not for you. This is a good day to keep your head down and not take any chances with your finances. Try wearing some clear blues or greens to keep down your hot temper today. GEMINI (May 22-June 21) A new love interest will enter your life at this time and you find this person extremely attractive. If you are married this could spell the end to your home and family if you pursue the opportunity; steer clear of this pitfall. CANCER (June 22-July 22) Today you will see things and situations going your way for a change. Your increase in personal magnetism will play a big role and it makes people want to be near you. Don't let all the attention go to your head because acting egotistical is the quickest way to turn them off. LEO (July 23-Aug 22) Today you find yourself as the 'fair haired child' and can do absolutely no wrong; you will appear to have the midas touch but don't let it make you over confident and reckless for there is where the losses could filter back in and your luck go out the window. VIRGO (Aug. 23 -Sept. 23) Today you spend most of your time on your 'brain child' getting all the bugs and glitches ironed out; by days end you should have everything purring along. The family will understand your 'need for speed' and will give you all the space and privacy you require. LIBRA (Sept. 24 -Oct. 23) Work goes well for you today and you will soon see a raise in pay and position coming your way. If you have not replanted the house plants, this would be a good day to do this as you will have more luck with growing things than you normally do. SCORPIO (Oct. 24 - Nov. 22) Today you can talk to an elderly relative to seek inner strength and self control. If not a relative, then seek counseling by a professional. Others will find this an uneventful day, but now and then we need the peace and quiet of an unexcited world to get our head on straight. SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 23 -Dec. 21) You are more of the leader than the one you have been following and you should be aware that to keep it up could be detrimental to your health and freedom. This is a good day to make plans for the rest of your life. CAPRICORN (Dec 22.- Jan. 20) Your work day should go smoothly with no big problems to plague you. You find inspiration in littlethings today and your whole attitude makes you a good friend and a joy to be around. Don't lose this attitude as those around you are in need of the balm of your personality. AQUARIUS (Jan. 21 -Feb. 19) Be aware that a person you used to know has not changed so it is best if you keep your distance! Let others run interference for you as you make, and keep, several social engagements that will keep you seperated. PISCES (Feb. 20-Mar. 20) Today Your plans will be changed but you will find that you really are happy to go along with the others' plans instead. Just relax and roll with the flow. Play your cards right and loads of good things are yours today. ----------------------- Your Horoscope for Friday, February 23, 2001 In Case You Didn't Know: Astrology was possibly man's first science and religion. Some of the greatest scientists to walk across the stage of world history were astrologers. Of late, astrology has been a ``whipping boy'' -- with people who know nothing about it doing the attacking. Aldous Huxley, Leo author-philosopher, declared that people who attack astrology often do not know what or why they are attacking. ARIES (Mar. 21-Apr. 19): Face music early in connection with home, family. Toss aside previous notions. Cancer, Capricorn individuals will play major roles. Dramatic reunion tonight! TAURUS (Apr. 20-May 20): Excellent for entertaining, being entertained. Elements of timing, luck ride with you. In matters of speculation, stick with number 3. GEMINI (May 21-June 20): Attend to details, check material, tools. Make this your ``makeover'' day. Rewrite and rebuild. You can achieve the ``impossible.'' Scorpio involved. CANCER (June 21-July 22): Bring forth ideas, concepts. Read and write, learn by teaching. Relationship gets hot and heavy. Pisces, Virgo persons will play fascinating roles. LEO (July 23-Aug. 22): Emphasis on domestic adjustment that could include where you live, marital status. Music is in picture, dance to your own tune. Taurus, Libra play roles. VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22) Lie low, play waiting game. Legal clearance required for project. If you wait, you win. Pisces will play outstanding role. Be alert, someone attempts to fool you. LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22): Focus on organization, recognition of priorities. Pressure of responsibility builds, you will be up to it. Cancer, Capricorn p"}]}, {"num": 56, "subject": "What do you want to talk about today?", "response_count": 380, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "osceola", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (12:28)", "body": "I want to know why I can never get into the \"inner\" conference. \"Internal Server Error\" always comes up on my screen. I don't know much about computers, so what's up, Terry?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (13:42)", "body": "inner is a private conference run by wer. so you can only get into it if you are on the list of authorized users."}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (21:09)", "body": "and yapp only has a couple of different error messages... that one is the most common"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (06:18)", "body": "What wer said."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (14:53)", "body": "ditto"}, {"response": 6, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "How ya doin', George?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (05:37)", "body": "It's time to put out that plea again. I have shelled out about $800 plus this month and I'm still lacking funds to pay for the domain name austen.com and some others, send your contributions to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Make checks payable to The Spring. Any help you can send this way will be *very* appreciated and the first $70 received will go to rescue our austen.com domain name."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (08:38)", "body": "I want to talk about our failure to make the Golden Pebble awards for austin's best websites. first, here are the winners, which we were not among (hangs head in shame) http://www.Astrofish.net -- The people have spoken and made this redneck fisherman-astrological site numero uno and the winner of the \"People's Choice Pebble.\" Of course, my psychic abilities should have been able to predict this outcome when I saw a bolded statement on the site directing Astrofish surfers to e-mail me and let me know Astrofish.com is the best. Astrofish, I look into my crystal ball and see a Golden Pebble coming your way. http://www.Internetv.com -- The \"Funky Golden Pebble\" goes to Rob Campanell and his new Internet production \"Chemical Generation.\" In this \"Real World\"-type drama, DJ Deepfrog chronicles his quest to bring his hip-a-delic sound (Deepfrog Acid) to the world. It's waggle-your-hips funky, with a \"You've Got Mail!\" love twist. Here's your Pebble, DJ Deepfrog; why don't you take it for a spin? http://www.FixExpress.com and www.Sulekha.com -- The \"Best Site Duet Pebble\" goes to Sangeeta Kshettry and Satya Prabhakar. FixExpress.com is a yummy, one-stop info, trivia and humor site that boasts visitors from more than 100 countries. Sulekha.com is an excellent zine and literary community boasting some excellent writing by inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent. http://www.MikeJasper.com -- The \"Angry Pebble\" goes to Mike Jasper and his low-tech essay site. His spite, vengeance and cynicism made me laugh a lot over the past year. Besides, he's the only one who took me out for a burger after he appeared in my column. Congrats, Mike; next time, let's go to the Four Seasons. http://www.EthePeople.com -- When Austinite Alex Sheshunoff started a site at which you can contact local political officials via the Internet, it was bound to make this list. On his site, you can e-mail politicos and gripe about everything from impeachment to potholes. Alex, enjoy your \"Power to the People Pebble.\" http://www.Unmall.com -- The \"Buy This Pebble\" goes to Unmall.com. It's about time someone linked Austin's great merchants and displayed them for the world to peruse and enjoy. It's one long, 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week Armadillo Christmas Bazaar. Honorable mentions: http://www.Dumbest.com -- Margaret Moser and Bill Crawford have put up a site devoted to their book \"Rock Stars Do the Dumbest Things.\" If you're too cheap to buy the book, this site will give you some good insight into rock stars and the dumb things they do. http://members.tripod.com/~poopunk/ -- An excellent e-zine by Ben Aqua. If you've forgotten what teen angst is all about, this site will remind you. http://www.chrissy.com/store.html -- Kitsch shopping to the tune of Muzak versions of \"Here Comes the Sun\" and \"Downtown,\" this site boasts the best place in town for Ladyhead vases (don't worry, I didn't know what they were, either). Send questions, comments, ideas, products, graft and fan mail to Gregory Kallenberg at gkallenberg@statesman.com or write him at P.O. Box 670, Austin 78767. Look at these websites and tell me why we didn't stack up and what we need to do to make next years Golden Pebbles. We're just not insanely great enough yet. And if you feel we were left off and should have made the list, email Gregory Kallenberg and tell him he screwed up, big time, by not listing the Spring. Just in case you missed his email address: gkallenberg@statesman.com"}, {"response": 9, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (09:47)", "body": "its good to have these very specific goals for the Spring in mind. i am still mentioning the spring to anyone who will listen!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (14:21)", "body": "What do we need to do?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (23:36)", "body": "If'n I knew, I'd be doing it..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (05:43)", "body": "Have you looked at the golden pebble sites? What are we doing that we're not doing? How can we get more folks here? How can we improve our site? Better navigation? More features? Is the webcam a total bust? Does anyone watch it? We stopped playing videotapes all the time and we're half live and half taped now. And we have live feeds coming from both houses. What's it going to take?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:53)", "body": "What Gregory needs is an impassioned rebuke in his email box from ratthing. That would carry some weight!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:56)", "body": "me? ok, i will!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:00)", "body": "I just invited him to be a regulart participant here, as well..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:11)", "body": "oooh a regulart!!!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:15)", "body": "think I spelled it correctly in the e-mail, though... (how many points do I lose for spelling, teach?)"}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:29)", "body": "twas only a pre-test..."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:29)", "body": "regulart. None. Because it's a cool mispelling."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:30)", "body": "Whup up on him a little, Stace."}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:32)", "body": "love your philosophy on that one Paul!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "wer", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:39)", "body": "especially if it describes a participant of Ree's conference..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (10:51)", "body": "huh?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:45)", "body": "regulart=chronic participant of the art conference..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (11:46)", "body": "From Gregory Kallenberg: \"I thought soemone had bought the name. I'm glad you guys are still around. Look for a mention in next week's column. Gregory\""}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (12:13)", "body": "ahhh... was he confused by the .net as we all temporarily were?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (12:23)", "body": "seems so... I e-mailed Mike Jasper and Ben Aqua and invited them to join, as well..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (15:43)", "body": "Maybe they'll become regularts as well!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (16:04)", "body": "ah ha! the old com to net trick again!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (18:54)", "body": "Hey! I feel all warm and fuzzy!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 21, 1999 (23:57)", "body": "Gregory Kallenberg's bit on the Spring in this week's XL ent, as promised... \"www.Spring.net -- It seems a lot of fans of this tres cool Austin site missed my call for the 2nd annual Golden Pebbles Awards (best local sites). They are up in arms they weren't included. Well, guys, here's Spring.net for all to click upon and bookmark. I hope you're happy.\" all those who e-mailed him about not being included, please e-mail him again and tell him thanks!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 22, 1999 (06:26)", "body": "Email thanks to mailto://gkallenberg@statesman.com"}, {"response": 33, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (16:28)", "body": "wait a sec, they give out awards for these places? HELLO!! what can i do?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (17:59)", "body": "recommend this place to anywhere you find that gives web awards...what kind of specifics are you looking for, Wolf?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (18:14)", "body": "*lol* is that the only way to get the word out? i'll go and submit this place to whomever...any specific type of awards we're limited to? or would anything do? and then we can have a trophy case somewhere!!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 3, 1999 (21:45)", "body": "go, Wolf, go! submit, Wolf, submit! win, Wolf, win!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (09:01)", "body": "Alright, it could be at http://www.spring.net/awards cool!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "wer", "date": "Sun, Feb 7, 1999 (13:11)", "body": "I want to talk about nothing in particular..."}, {"response": 39, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Feb 7, 1999 (22:27)", "body": "and it seems that everyone else felt the same way..."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (06:11)", "body": "I'd like to talk to Roan today in the farm conference about his incredible conspiracy theory regarding the Farm. I usually find it hard to believe paranoid conspiracy theories, but Roan provides some pretty convincing statements about some actual experiences he had. I'd be interested in what other folks think of his very \"out there\" thesis on how the Farm was underminded by \"black ops\"."}, {"response": 41, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (03:09)", "body": "Hey Any good raves going on in Austin as of late? Mike aka _cosmo_"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (02:05)", "body": "Haven't heard of any, but I'll check on it."}, {"response": 43, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 11, 1999 (16:01)", "body": "unfortunately(?), cosmo, I don't hang around that crowd anymore..."}, {"response": 44, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (00:07)", "body": "I'm getting old...*sniff*"}, {"response": 45, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (23:03)", "body": "what do ya'll think about the Thought of the day thingy I got up in here? the guy who does those lives in Austin..."}, {"response": 46, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Feb 23, 1999 (10:52)", "body": "What is the thingy in question? I see no thingy."}, {"response": 47, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Feb 23, 1999 (11:31)", "body": "the thingy over in the right hand corner that looks like a box with \"Thought for the day\" in it?!?!?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:28)", "body": "or, any other thingy you see and want to comment on, Autumn..."}, {"response": 49, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:46)", "body": "hey... just out of curiosity...what is the reason for the intermittent feb7,2036 date thing? (it is definitely marked in my calendar)... (and i hadn't noticed the thought of the day thingy, but am determined to search it out presently)"}, {"response": 50, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (01:50)", "body": "have done so and... and... they are even better than fortune cookies (which are usually the sources of my thoughts of the day) (such as they are) i like em"}, {"response": 51, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:46)", "body": "Where is this f*(#@^! thingy????"}, {"response": 52, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (21:33)", "body": "on http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/browse/porch/all/new right beside the description of the conference..."}, {"response": 53, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (21:32)", "body": "Aha! It is on the porch main page! I thought it was supposed to be in the upper right hand corner of this topic. Today's reminds me of those motivational posters in my husband's office."}, {"response": 54, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (23:13)", "body": "sorry we confused you..."}, {"response": 55, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (15:32)", "body": "\"We should abolish January and February. If we then divided the 59 extra days between July and August, we will cut out energy needs by about one- third through eliminating the coldest days of the year. Cold is largely a psychological matter. If people look at the calendar and see that it is July, they will be quite happy to turn the heat down.\" --John Galbraith, Ohio state representative"}, {"response": 56, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (15:44)", "body": "*grin*"}, {"response": 57, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (18:12)", "body": "Isn't he a famous economist?"}, {"response": 58, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (19:31)", "body": "I wanna know what's up with the new quarters!!!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (20:45)", "body": "Don't you like the Delaware ones? The tooth fairy thinks they're great! She can't wait for the other 49 to be issued."}, {"response": 60, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (22:07)", "body": "No, I was serious...hadn't heard anything about them until I found one in my pocket...still don't know what's going on..."}, {"response": 61, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (14:40)", "body": "They're reminting the quarter in all 50 states (in order of when they joined the union)."}, {"response": 62, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "thanks!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 63, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (23:47)", "body": "why, I want to talk about the today conference, of course! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/today/all"}, {"response": 64, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (19:13)", "body": "yippee...been talking to everyone on here the last couple of days, although the boss has been somewhat absent..."}, {"response": 65, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 9, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "you chatterbox, you!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 9, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "*sticking out tongue at you*"}, {"response": 67, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:18)", "body": "I want to talk about what a dweeb I am.. cuz I was having problems with my browser mail, so I changed the mail server to www.spring.net so I could send out some mail from there And how all my www.spring.net mail (that I usually access through Telnet (pine) jumped over onto my browser mail. And how I deleted it all because I didn't want it in both places and then how when I logged in and went to pin I had NO MAIL in my account (cuz it all was in my browser mail (that I deleted))... Then I want to hang my head in shame and ask \"how in the hell do I put it all back???\" (It's still in my browsers trash folder...)"}, {"response": 68, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:28)", "body": "does that folder work like the recycle bin and let you re-install instead of finishing deleting?"}, {"response": 69, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:29)", "body": "if not, you ought to be able to put it back through explorer..."}, {"response": 70, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (15:41)", "body": "what happened, stacey, is that when your browser email client went to talk to www.spring.net, it talked with both the POP server and SMTP server. it was the POP server who grabbed your mail off the server and fed it to your browser, then deleted it off the server. the only way to get it back to the www.spring.net server is to email it back \b to www.spring.net. you should be able to do that from the deleted items folder. in your browser email package, there should be an option somewhere called \"leave mail on server\" or something like that. if you check this option, then the email your browser reads off the server will not be deleted, and will be there for you if you ever telnet in and use pine. also, unless you are connected directly to the Spring, you cannot use your browser's email client to send email. the SMTP server on www.spring.net does not accept mail from domains other than spring.net."}, {"response": 71, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (15:56)", "body": "Thanks!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (00:20)", "body": "your post explains problems I've been having as well, Ray..."}, {"response": 73, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (05:53)", "body": "But none of mine. Ray, what's my problem, anyway?"}, {"response": 74, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (13:16)", "body": "hmmm. let's see. appears to have something to do with monkeys and large breasts, but i'm not certain.... let me check the log files, alexander, and get back to you... ;)"}, {"response": 75, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (23:43)", "body": "this post of yours, Ray, also explains problems I've been having..."}, {"response": 76, "author": "jgross", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (04:31)", "body": "this post of yours, Ray, also explains problems I've been having i can now meet people i have no anxiety about it --- it happens with irresistible mystery and charm rheumatoid arthritis left my body i'm 28 again, feel fit as a fiddle, feel oompah and voila and viola as a violin when i fart, the blap is music to everyone's ears (as well as being a tremendous relief for me) my entire mind is at perfect ease and likes to fiddle faddle with my heart and make it crack up and be in stitches until it howls and spins on its butt i'll walk around the yard and even the people of Scotland can feel my footsteps with uncanny sensitivity and bursting love children's voices light my way in the dark and i can run my fingers over where those concealed corners are in the entrance hall of her emotions (i'm talkin' of this new friend who lives so much human content, the trace of a desire is right now licking the outside of that blue cadillac she likes to drive off the 12th floor of Hotel Vertigo and land sweet and soft with exuberant acceleration in the driveway of wide-open romance) i have so much clarity now, i can link instincts with the center of the collective unconscious and purr deeply original forces that bunch up in simple pure soul release my ego has hung it up, exited, it's gone --- it made a filthy corpse, the soil is littered with its severed flesh, its sexual insecurities, its sweaty bank statements"}, {"response": 77, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:37)", "body": "jim, you da man. i hope you are feeling as great as you write."}, {"response": 78, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:58)", "body": "he actually feels better if you touch him in the correct sub-continents during the supraproday sale phase of the moon in tempo with his tertiary time and phone line..."}, {"response": 79, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (10:08)", "body": "uh oh... Jim, are those wildflowers blooming in your living room or what?!?! Glad you're feeling so groovy. What did it? Coffee, sex, Jah's given up the pea gravel? Or did the residents of 37th street turn on those lights a little earlier than expected? That'd get me going too! Trying skating down the street next time you go... it's okay. The cras can't travel quickly so there's very little danger of being hit (oops, that was \"cars\" not cras) Anyway... back to the original point. Glad yer feeling so good... could you share some with WER next time you've reached a surplus?"}, {"response": 80, "author": "jgross", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (13:54)", "body": "it only feels good in being a writing (it was just fun to write, to do that) it's so obviously surreal i can feel totally depressed otherwise while writing something like that depressed isn't the write word, but the word would be something kinda negative but that particular time i actually was otherwise happening to be feeling basically ok but it didn't have anything to do with *what* i was writing that's just something about me and it's probably what any of you might've been figuring was the case with me? that what's said in the writing and what I'm actually feeling otherwise in my life are 2 different things, or can be? explanations do help sometimes.....was this not helpful, though? am i sounding like i'm misinterpreting or taking things too seriously or being dense or do i seem, say, uh, pretty distrustful as far as being sincere or having much interpersonal integrity, stuff like that? i wonder about myself....i worry about myself a mess.....ok ok"}, {"response": 81, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "sometimes I wonder Jim. Not in a bad way...please don't misinterpret that! But sometimes the things you write just make me think...\"Um...did I miss something?\". But again, don't think that in a bad way - a failure on my part not yours!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (15:57)", "body": "I had so much to say... that it only came out as a smile."}, {"response": 83, "author": "jgross", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:18)", "body": "with me and writing, i go for the impulse the impulse could be meaning to do anything with me it usually heads for humor and free associating and certain strong real touches of human truth mixed into that i don't know what it's about except right as it's coming out of me it's not very directed there's a different kind of control going on not so much conscious, but some.....there's some conscious direction but it's a real blend of conscious and submodalities of consciousness i do notice there is some belittling going on in my writing not in Response 76 (this topic), though i can see that my humor can miscommunicate it's working with stranger than usual variables (image-wise) --- that's a handful but there is a certain amount of lack of integrity going on at odd moments i'm putting some energy into growing, growth, development, as a person, i guess by taking a closer look at how that insincerity aspect actually feels to me as i look it over and look it over and look it over and see it and see it i experiment with words, it's highly experimental it's very weird being in the center of it sorta has a mind of its own but i can listen in better, by touching closer in on the spirit of it the orientation it seems to be coming from it's actually possible to hear clearly and it's possible to just not to hear i'm seeing if i can hear better it's real work i sometimes worry about losing the impulse when i listen in to the sincerity of it, but i'm wondering that it may be not such a worry, that the impulse doesn't necessarily fall down from being listened in to its sincerity, its voice, its orientation, spirit, etc. it's funny (or absurd?) to consider that there can be an amazing amount of mischievousness going on at the heart of sincerity, integrity it has to do with the pulse of change which is giving life its life, or living the life in life. anyone know? this make a little sense?"}, {"response": 84, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:25)", "body": "submodalities is a *great* word, stacey! :) i like your idea that impulse doesn't necessarily fall down from being subjected to some kind of critique - of being \"listened to\" as you put it. i'm not sure if i completely agree with the idea, at least on a personal level (for me, that is), but it's an teresting idea. i have always found that the best impulse is, to use the Spring analogy, just typed out and then sent, with no re-reading. however, as we haev all seen, too much impulse can be a negative thing as well as positive."}, {"response": 85, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:41)", "body": "and I was bitten by the bug... at first my response was different... much different I did not submit it but did send it on"}, {"response": 86, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:42)", "body": "hmm?? non comprende :)"}, {"response": 87, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (18:43)", "body": "I was answering your non-question regarding impulsive posting, Mike."}, {"response": 88, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (08:26)", "body": "Hmh, I like looking at Jim's postings. They look so dynamic."}, {"response": 89, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (00:16)", "body": "Yeah, he's amazing."}, {"response": 90, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "my WORD, Jeeves...astounding! ;)"}, {"response": 91, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (23:44)", "body": "Does this mean your computer lives again, Annette?"}, {"response": 92, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (04:15)", "body": "(what, no insomniacs up tonight?!?!)"}, {"response": 93, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (05:00)", "body": "(me, but it's already 9:49 am over here. Good morning, Wer, how are you today?)"}, {"response": 94, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (11:30)", "body": "awake again, how are you?"}, {"response": 95, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 24, 1999 (09:02)", "body": "Busy. Hacking all these cd titles in a spread sheet, 'coz we hand the lot over to our authors today (and it's mighty useful to know who got what from which label...). Already behind on schedule, it's 14:45 and we meet at 17:00 in FFM. See ya!"}, {"response": 96, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (03:24)", "body": "And has that been a good meeting! Great cappucino, too! There were us three publishers (two double as editors, one as direct distribution/subscription branch), the ad sales branch, four authors (a new one, too - looking forward to see how that works out, but he has some great ideas and interesting connections; hope his writing is up to it, too...) and a layouter/writer. Lots of feedback on #12, I gave an overview on planned stuff for #13, fixed dates, extended personal deadlines (for contributions, not contributors, mind you) and deal out serious CDs! Guess more'n 50 out for reviews... Some great stuff, too, Also some lame... As usual. I felt really great when I got back. They care! They contribute! We're all happy bunnies! Now I just got to find a legal way to get hold of some more carrots..."}, {"response": 97, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (22:30)", "body": "Wow, all that over a cappucino?"}, {"response": 98, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (09:58)", "body": "Had a glass of water, too, to be honest."}, {"response": 99, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (10:39)", "body": "How's this for karma; a month or so ago, robbers broke into my house and stole my bass guitar, stereo, 2 VCRs, a flute, and most of my CDs and other assorted personals, including my address book and \"scratchbook\" for all of my internet goings-ons. That brought me down to my computer and tv for entertainment, ok? Last night, lightning finished off the tv and satellite reciever...now; I am down to my computer for entertainment, which I managed to have unplugged before the storm. Does anyone think I might sh uld be recieving some kind of...er...message from all of this? (ROTF!) -Humored but holding my breath...:)"}, {"response": 100, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (11:46)", "body": "Stop dancing with cross-dressing Texans?"}, {"response": 101, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (20:54)", "body": "Are you still living on the Farm, Annette? (Has anyone stolen your library card yet? That may be all you have left in the way of entertainment!)"}, {"response": 102, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (01:18)", "body": "quick...post your snail mail address!!!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (06:53)", "body": "Annette, how good's your German? What bass did you have?"}, {"response": 104, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (10:26)", "body": "My German is as limited as my good luck, Alexander...;) I had a Peavey Foundation bass. But, next week, I am going to purchase a Ibanez GSR100. Can't spend summer without a bass...too many good gigs happening. Everything else can wait...Hey, I still have YOU guys...right? (Shhhhhhh...guess I'd better not say that TOO loud, huh?)"}, {"response": 105, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (10:37)", "body": "(So you have some luck - got some German to? What do you play?)"}, {"response": 106, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Sat, May 1, 1999 (11:30)", "body": "Mostly the blues. Rock (the older stuff) finds it's way in, too. We do a lot of SRV and Eric Clapton, quite a lot of Motown stuff...right now, we're \"re-organizing\". (I like that word!;) ) The lead guitarist and lead singer were married, and, recently divorced, (typical story, hmm?) so, we're shuffling around for another lead guitarist. It will come together, but, it just takes time to get the right chemistry."}, {"response": 107, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, May 3, 1999 (08:13)", "body": "Did you keep the guy or the gal?"}, {"response": 108, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (12:06)", "body": "(Probably just kept the dog and the ole Pick-up truck...)"}, {"response": 109, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (13:20)", "body": "Aarrgh!! My hard drive has to be replaced! Help! I'm stranded in the sea of losers in the library..."}, {"response": 110, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (14:18)", "body": "woo woo! Autumn's hanging out with the bookworms!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (23:08)", "body": "Autumn, pitch me one of those Poe classics over there, please...:) (BTW, I moved from The Farm back to Hohenwald...couldn't stand the cold in that cabin!) Alexander, we kept the gal. The guy needed to move on into some other aspects of his music career, and, well, I think we were just holding him back from branching out when he needed to. He and his ex didn't really needed to get away from each other, anyway."}, {"response": 112, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Thu, May 6, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "...DID really need to get away from each other... Jeez...it's late...brain is going mush...(mushier)"}, {"response": 113, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, May 9, 1999 (12:05)", "body": "Oh. But I DO like mushy brains! So the guy needed to branch out, huh? Sounds like opening franchises was why they split... So: Who kept the dog and the pick-up? I guess he took that great vintage amp, too,... (More in Music Conf/Record Collecting topic...)"}, {"response": 114, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (17:49)", "body": "HEY!!!! I wanna talk about why the hell the 'what I ate today topic is frozen and who's gonna unfreeze it so's I can go on and on about all the good stuff I ate today!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (18:18)", "body": "did I freeze the wrong one? oops..."}, {"response": 116, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, May 13, 1999 (11:48)", "body": "phew... now I feel less silly... you froze the wrong one!!!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 13, 1999 (15:07)", "body": "no I didn't..."}, {"response": 118, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, May 13, 1999 (16:53)", "body": "yep, you did!"}, {"response": 119, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 13, 1999 (17:04)", "body": "no I didn't..."}, {"response": 120, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (06:51)", "body": "Bet you did... Alexander, SHE got the dog...HE got the pick-up. :)"}, {"response": 121, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (16:30)", "body": "he did Annette"}, {"response": 122, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (16:48)", "body": "He did Annette AND got the pick-up? Wow. Nowwaitaminute - whatareyoutellinme?"}, {"response": 123, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 17, 1999 (10:09)", "body": "wouldn't matter Alexander... you wouldn't think about it anyway and what's the fun in that?!?!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (07:03)", "body": ";=}"}, {"response": 125, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (10:04)", "body": "Yes, but there's more to being than mere thinking. How about feeling, guessing, imagining, the whole nonintellectual apparatus? Works ok for me, way better than ratio-only, hardcore thinking approaches ever did. Bear with me. Just because I'm not so hot on intellectualism and indifferent brainism doesn't mean I've got no game going. Maybe I work with a different technique, but nevertheless I try, and try as good as any other. (Though admittedly trying sometimes *is* quite the trial... but that's the same for smart thinkers, too.)"}, {"response": 126, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (11:59)", "body": "just teasing you Alexander! gotta point out the discrepancy though... your posts certainly lend the reader to believe you are quite the intellectual thinker..."}, {"response": 127, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (12:09)", "body": "...wrong. I'm through with that. Ignorance is bliss."}, {"response": 128, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (13:56)", "body": "worng... but if you insist on being ignorant to the truth... so be it! (just being argumentative of course but in reality i don't believe that ignorance is preferable to knowledge... on much of anything...) .ok"}, {"response": 129, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (16:35)", "body": "There is no truth. There are only opinions. Knowledge is a burden that's not always easy to bear; even more seldom is it appreciated by others. Ignorance is not the opposite to open-mindedness; ignorance is the opposite to itself. Ignorance is the perfect chance for growth."}, {"response": 130, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, May 18, 1999 (16:41)", "body": "then Ignorance is potential and not necessarily bliss..."}, {"response": 131, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (02:46)", "body": "Ignorance is bliss. Knowledge is competitive and segregates again in haves and have-nots. Makes people feel alienated from each other, even offended. Few people are offended by ignorance. (Mind you, my dears, we're not talking stupidity. That's a different topic, along with narrow-mindedness and prejudices and smart-assing and holier-than-thouing. File ignornace beside amateurism - who still love what they do -, and dilettantism, where everything is just play and fun. Maybe the three capital virtues - ignorance, amateurism, dilettantism.)"}, {"response": 132, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (08:05)", "body": "I don't know that I'd want that on my resume... William is an ignorant, amateur dilettante..."}, {"response": 133, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (10:13)", "body": "actually i AM offended by ignorance. racial and ethic and religious prejudices often (USUALLY) stem from ignorance... the majority of frustration in my work and the majority of accidents that happen in our facilities stem from ignorance -- learned or otherwise... I truly believe ignorance (especially intended) is a liability in most cases. I certainly see degrees and topics that one might choose, for his/her own self-preservation to be ignorant of... Sometimes when you ARE informed and have taken the time to be thought out on a topic, life is even more fun"}, {"response": 134, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (15:41)", "body": "Stacey, such stupidity is truly an awful thing. But I mean something different by ignorance, and again, it it a language and cultural barrier, limiting my means to express my feelings. Also, I realise that my position on things has much to do with the life I've lead up to now, which I lived and nobody else."}, {"response": 135, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (17:18)", "body": "So, Stace, does my ignorance truly offend you? Or is it just that you are afraid that you would have to fit me into the categories where you got those people you think \"ignorant\" filed? Both would be sad, because unnecessary (\"No need to kick a man who's down.\"), plus we got along great until I mentioned this absurd idea of mine, but it would be fun, though, or rather: fascinating to see how me being like this - trying not to get people blow up at me, and be really cooperative and accessible - would achieve opposite effects."}, {"response": 136, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (18:44)", "body": "first of all I don't believe you're truly ignorant. I believe you are probably more informed than most and therefore would like to plead and/or be ignorant because the alternative is too complicated. You do not offend me. Truly ignorant people (who have no desire to improve on that situation and who in their ignorance misjudge things/people/ideas (yadda yadda yadda)) offend me frequently. Certainly not by their mere existence but in their apathy. The disintegration of society's as the world pnce knew them has a lot to do with this apathy IMHO. People would rather not know than know and feel compelled to at a minimum care if not contribute to a solution... BTW, please never misconstrue my getting all heated about a topic/idea/subject as something angry or personal against the speaker \"poster\"... when I am truly pissed all shall know!!! *smile*"}, {"response": 137, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 19, 1999 (23:40)", "body": "because she'll SAY SO..."}, {"response": 138, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (09:25)", "body": "... she does, huh? What do you say?"}, {"response": 139, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:37)", "body": "that depends..."}, {"response": 140, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:44)", "body": "...?"}, {"response": 141, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:46)", "body": "precisely!!!"}, {"response": 142, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (13:28)", "body": "A-hem!"}, {"response": 143, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (13:48)", "body": "A-dress!"}, {"response": 144, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (15:57)", "body": "A-line!"}, {"response": 145, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (18:11)", "body": "A-nother?"}, {"response": 146, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (18:28)", "body": "what's a 'nother'?"}, {"response": 147, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (19:29)", "body": "that's over...who one?"}, {"response": 148, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (11:36)", "body": "Me two."}, {"response": 149, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (09:19)", "body": "you eight it!!!"}, {"response": 150, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (09:42)", "body": "10ding the garden again, Stace?"}, {"response": 151, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:02)", "body": "cute! yep sure am. it's just 2 rainy today though .ok damn"}, {"response": 152, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:06)", "body": "So, no birds in the 3s?"}, {"response": 153, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (10:48)", "body": "*laugh* nope they fell on the 4."}, {"response": 154, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (11:04)", "body": "Hmh, ice-cream - a nice big c1."}, {"response": 155, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (17:24)", "body": "ooooh, my....all this over a pickup truck? (*snicker) ...interesting enough....;-)"}, {"response": 156, "author": "laughingskye", "date": "Tue, May 25, 1999 (17:26)", "body": "ice cream...double c.....mmmmmmmm."}, {"response": 157, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 27, 1999 (02:51)", "body": "Well, Annette, what could I do? Feel like responding to # 121 ff. (Stacey hinted at something...), or check into http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/music/67.68 and tell us how they split up the record collection? I'm also curious - who got the amps? So, while we all have a nice big c1 - or double c1 -, would you tell me?"}, {"response": 158, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, May 27, 1999 (10:16)", "body": "how come i cannot get audio with the \"echo juliet\" slides?? is this from the capezeyz show?"}, {"response": 159, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:51)", "body": "did you ever get your sound?"}, {"response": 160, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (13:33)", "body": "What I never got was any of you jokers to explain to me how to put images into a reply. I would very much appreciate it if somebody - even perhaps one of the more dignified entities floating around here - WOULD PLEASE TELL ME! Well, I want to post the cover of our #13 into the superstar topic."}, {"response": 161, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (15:39)", "body": "tonight...I promise...gotta go do a command performance at Little Italy in a few moments..."}, {"response": 162, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (01:03)", "body": "Okay, Alexander: Got your default.htm page so that all the graphics work, and the top two links across the top to work...also made a copy of it called index.html so that any of these will work for the url... http://www.spring.net/~aschuth/ http://www.spring.net/~aschuth/index.html http://www.spring.net/~aschuth/default.htm posted the cover up in the superstar topic, so go in and do a view source and you'll see the correct code for that particular picture... (I'm gonna get credit in your mag for grunt webwork, right? it would look really cool on my resume...hehe...)"}, {"response": 163, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (12:58)", "body": "(Yeah, we'll get that figured, mate - still, get back to me on the merchandise issue...)"}, {"response": 164, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:03)", "body": "(Ok, as soon as I got my harddisk restored I'll download all that and work further on updating it... Still not in shape to publish it, like lots of old addresses around, no new content + images, concert schedules, etc.)"}, {"response": 165, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:30)", "body": "understood..."}, {"response": 166, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (12:35)", "body": "take the Austin Powers Personality Quiz, baby! http://www.careerpath.com/ows-bin/editorial.cgi/special/cpapquiz.htm?style=cp I turned out to be the Man Himself, Austin Powers! Smashing, love! You've made a match with the international man of mystery. You have a talent for mixing\ufffdwork with pleasure, cocktails with spying\ufffdbut you always accomplish your mission, no matter the obstacle. Or obstacles. Oh, behave! You're a man in psychedelic motion and recruited constantly. We won't talk about what for. Freelance consulting is the ideal career for you, allowing you the freedom to swing from one assignment to the other. Yeah, baby!"}, {"response": 167, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (15:53)", "body": "Just what I said. Why don't you listen to us here, but to some stupid quiz, baby?"}, {"response": 168, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (00:09)", "body": "cuz I can't afford the meds?"}, {"response": 169, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (10:15)", "body": "Oh, what meds? Get down to it, honey - this is all natural goodness, bright sunshine and honest excitement. (*yawn*) Most of the times, at least... Basically, it's really good for you!"}, {"response": 170, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (12:16)", "body": "the Spring as a whole, or listening to you guys?"}, {"response": 171, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:14)", "body": "\"natural goodness, bright sunshine and honest excitement\" is, sweety, what do you think? We folks don't always qualify for that, let's be honest, so go for a walk outside and watch a butterfly... (*walking off into the sunset, flowers in my hair + no sandals on my feet*)"}, {"response": 172, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (09:16)", "body": "Or forget about my crap, ignore the med-item (something serious or just prozac?), and hack away!"}, {"response": 173, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:23)", "body": "i'll forget about your crap..."}, {"response": 174, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:28)", "body": "...happy to hear that!"}, {"response": 175, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:37)", "body": "how's the knee?"}, {"response": 176, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:53)", "body": "Itchin'?"}, {"response": 177, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (10:55)", "body": "are you asking me or telling me?"}, {"response": 178, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (11:37)", "body": "Yeah. Huh, you're itchin to know, aren't ya? Wouldn't tell you, just to work up some suspense in your life... Naw, I spill it. This suspense-building thing only wrecks my nerves. Yeah, guess you are itching to know, and I'm itching to itch. &%$%\ufffd!-M\ufffdckenstich!"}, {"response": 179, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (13:14)", "body": "and may I ask WHY are your knees itching?"}, {"response": 180, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (13:18)", "body": "Fungus? Athritis? Watch that, girl - you'll become as nosy as me! Just a M\ufffdckenstich. No biggie, just itchy..."}, {"response": 181, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (22:00)", "body": "hey, is it just me or has anybody else noticed that the ad on the spring cam is for the Jaguars and they're using a picture of a cheetah?"}, {"response": 182, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (22:08)", "body": "and I thought it was an ocelot..."}, {"response": 183, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (22:10)", "body": "no, sweetie, didja see the black tear line from the cat's eye to his cheek? i wouldn't want to sign up with them to cheer or play football if they can't tell the difference between a jaguar and a cheetah....."}, {"response": 184, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (00:28)", "body": "just teasin', Wolf, but my, you sure know your competition..."}, {"response": 185, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (03:29)", "body": "\"it's canine vs feline here on this wonderful sunday morn' at the SPRING stadium...\""}, {"response": 186, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (10:36)", "body": "*grin* survival of the fittest, my dear!!"}, {"response": 187, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (15:17)", "body": "Mark me dead meat then. But, hey, can I bring allies?"}, {"response": 188, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (18:28)", "body": "...just took a vote...Sure you can! Anything I can do to help?"}, {"response": 189, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jul 26, 1999 (12:13)", "body": "... sharpen your teeth and claws methinks!"}, {"response": 190, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (20:24)", "body": "*big wolfy toothy grin*"}, {"response": 191, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 27, 1999 (22:33)", "body": "sorry to interupt... just came in from watching the shuttle fly over on re-entry..."}, {"response": 192, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (09:37)", "body": "woo woo! when I was a little girl in SA the shuttle used to piggyback into Kelly right over our backyard..."}, {"response": 193, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "wasn't that cool!! i got pictures and if they came out good, i'll post them."}, {"response": 194, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (20:57)", "body": "Please do post them. This is the first shuttle mission I have not have full screen nasa tv on nor checked the orbits to see when we could see it. It has been visible several times that I have looked, but it must have been much closer for you if it was coming in for a landing. Fantastic. I am thrilled for y'all!"}, {"response": 195, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (21:01)", "body": "Hope you guys have good memories because I expect a full color sketch if your pictures did not come out well."}, {"response": 196, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 29, 1999 (18:55)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 197, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 3, 1999 (11:49)", "body": "I think I might be artistic enough to pull that one off..."}, {"response": 198, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (21:33)", "body": "but then again..."}, {"response": 199, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (22:38)", "body": "....(getting out my knitting and finding a soft place on the grass)....I'll wait...just don't forget, please!"}, {"response": 200, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (11:10)", "body": "Re: Response 187 I know what ally I'm looking for, should I ever be in such a mess. In South China exists a small sort of wild cat (possibly called Biao), that does the most amazing thing for fun, which qualifies the kitty for major ally-materiel. You know how everybody says everything animals do is just driven by needs and urges, like to feed, etc.? Wrong. This krazy kat knows how to have a good time. When it is bored - say, it's Saturday night, it's in the middle of a South Chinese jungle, beer is out and the movie sucked - it positively JUMPS OM THE BACK OF A TIGER AND PUTS THEM CLAWS TO WORK ON THE TIGERS BUTT !"}, {"response": 201, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:25)", "body": "So, y'all are not impressed? Well, I was, when I found this in the english edition of a chinese People's Army general's commentary of Master Sun's Art of War (at last a commentary on the military virtues and errors, not all that economic and management blab you usually get from the Western authors). Imagine, a cutie l'il kitty, RIDIN' DA TIGER!"}, {"response": 202, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (18:38)", "body": "Oh, Yes, indeed I am impressed...I would like that kitty on my side. The very fact that they are not extinct speaks of their success in this enterprise Must check this out. Clever little devils, are they not!"}, {"response": 203, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (21:39)", "body": "Who are Austin 360 (our competition?!) and why are we not listed in their Web Directory of Communities Online?"}, {"response": 204, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (21:47)", "body": "I am still sitting on the soft grass from long time ago waiting to see the shuttle flyover. You promised...!"}, {"response": 205, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (19:09)", "body": "Couldn't resist *grin* PENN STATE 41 ARIZONA 7"}, {"response": 206, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (23:49)", "body": "That's the second site I've seen this embarrassment for Dick Tomey and all the players he took from Hawaii on...how many others are there? Hmmmm..."}, {"response": 207, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "Just the one in Geo and the one on my Screwed topic, where I just put your Texas story. It was the beginning of what started out to be a happy day but is now ashes."}, {"response": 208, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (00:01)", "body": "Why so glum? U can e-mail me if necessary. Or call...935-7171 ext. 426"}, {"response": 209, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (00:04)", "body": "It is what the email asking about confidences was about..."}, {"response": 210, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (18:08)", "body": "Thanks for last night, John...*smile*"}, {"response": 211, "author": "mrchips", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (21:58)", "body": "U R welcome...everyone else, it's not what you think!"}, {"response": 212, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:31)", "body": "John, you are a gentleman and a scholar of the first order. I am a lady. You listened to me when there was no one else to talk to. Thank you for that. And, for the rest of you. Whatever where you thinking?!"}, {"response": 213, "author": "spiker", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:36)", "body": "Check out my post on Free Republic Is your Church BATF & FBI approved? http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37c9 click Here"}, {"response": 214, "author": "spiker", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:37)", "body": "Check out my post on Free Republic Is your Church BATF & FBI approved? http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37c9 Click Here"}, {"response": 215, "author": "spiker", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:50)", "body": "I get it right someday! Click Here"}, {"response": 216, "author": "spiker", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (23:53)", "body": "America needs a William Wallace now!"}, {"response": 217, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (07:53)", "body": "Marcia - and everyone else: I'm not thinking! How often do I have to explain... Davey, mah man - why should I check your post, and who's the Bill? You gotta work on dem teasers, man! (Side-question: If American needs a William Wallace now, what does it need tomorrow? And what does the rest of the world need? Just curious. And harmless.)"}, {"response": 218, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:32)", "body": "Which William Wallace is he talking about?!"}, {"response": 219, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:40)", "body": "Gosh, YOU gotta know - you're at least an US-citizen! How'm I to know?"}, {"response": 220, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (13:54)", "body": "The last William Wallace I knew sat behind me in 3rd grade. Historically, was he not \"Braveheart\" of cinema fame? Ask the Scots amongst us!"}, {"response": 221, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "Great Scot, you knew Will Wallace! Whew! Tell us - how was he like? And, most important - what quality did he possess that your country - well, you know, *their* country, all the non-Hawaii-places - might be in great demand now?"}, {"response": 222, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (13:29)", "body": "Wild Will Wallace - boy, I still can't believe it!"}, {"response": 223, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (15:05)", "body": "The one I knew was kind of a jerk. Sniffled instead of blowing his nose...that sort...best left unremembered. And, I wonder how he remembers the girl who sat in front of him in 3rd Grade...! (yes, I know, Alexander, I did not make myself very clear on stating that these were two entirely different WW's!!!)"}, {"response": 224, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Sep 4, 1999 (10:15)", "body": "(Now, I got that, just wanted to tease you...) So, did Will the Wallace ever pull your braids? Or pin stupid notes on your back?"}, {"response": 225, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 5, 1999 (19:59)", "body": "Not until the 4th grade when we got ink wells. He stuck one of my braids in his ink well, and while whipping my head around to see what he was doing, I managed to spray him with the ink in my hair!"}, {"response": 226, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (16:26)", "body": "Just desserts!"}, {"response": 227, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (16:47)", "body": "okay... I like chocolate raspberry anything... fruit cobblers are awesome... cheesecake accompanied with coffee is very worthy of my time... (how am I doing?)"}, {"response": 228, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (22:57)", "body": "If'n y'all's gonna talk like that, bring two spoons!!! I am HONGRY!!!"}, {"response": 229, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 1, 1999 (18:33)", "body": "Ok time to awaken the intelligencia here...(there is intelligent life on the Internet, right?!) Check out Project Gutenberg on the net. Their goal is to make every book in existance FTP-able to your hard drive for free. Knowledge of the entire world at your fingertips. How incredible that seems to me! http://promo.net/pg"}, {"response": 230, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 2, 1999 (13:57)", "body": "Friday, December 3 NASA and its various websites listed below will carry live from Mars the Polar Lander beamed to Earth from 157 million miles away. The sites will contain weather reports, science data, first sound clips ever beamed to Earth from \"out there\" and lots of pictures. Main Mars site will post the latest pictures and updates throughout the 90-day mission: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98 or http://marslander.jpl.nasa.gov JPL's main page has links to the latest Mars project as well as to probes sent to other planets over the last 20 years: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov JPL's Mars Educational site which includes activites for children and teachers: http://marsnt3.jpl.nasa.gov/education/index.html UCLA, where the primary science team is based, offers a site focusing on the experiments aboard the Mars Volitiles and Climate Surveyor payload. http://mars.ucla.edu"}, {"response": 231, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 14, 1999 (19:36)", "body": "Under the \"why can't we just get along\" topic (which was too hard to find so I put this here): German Tourists More Popular Than Some May Think BERLIN (Reuters) - Britons fond of mocking German vacationers for using towels to reserve poolside lounge chairs at holiday resorts may be in for a surprise. German tourists are more popular abroad than the traditional image suggests, a survey in the mass-selling Bild newspaper showed on Tuesday, particularly in Austria where 71 percent of locals said they found German tourists ``very agreeable'' or at least ``pretty agreeable''. Of the French respondents, 55 percent liked the Germans, while 54 percent of the Italians in the survey welcomed tourists from Germany, although 12 percent complained that they were arrogant. German tourists were least popular in Spain, a holiday destination for 14 million Germans each year, where 26 percent said they didn't like the Germans. However, in the tourist haven of southern Spain where German sunbed-grabbing antics are said to be at their worst 70 percent of respondents said they found the Germans agreeable."}, {"response": 232, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:37)", "body": "Sure they do! Multiply 14 millions with, say, one thousand Marks, and you get a lot of smiling faces in Spain! When we have a bad recession here, it means for most people taking only two vacations a year instead of three. Like, \"we won't have money for new ski-gear all around, so let's skip St. Moritz this year...\" Huh, wish I'd be so well off! I'm with the some people who say \"what recession? Doesn't look worse to me than usual..., with all dem black clouds and unpaid bills.\""}, {"response": 233, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:42)", "body": "Hang in there, my dear. I am sure Spain subscribes to the \"keep Spain green, bring money!\""}, {"response": 234, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:44)", "body": "Our money is copper, green and silver (the coins), and blue, green, brown and other stuff (the bills & the larger bills, which I can't remember to have seen in a while)."}, {"response": 235, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "No wonder Spain is so colorful. The Deutchmark (and pfennig)has been making it so. I always wondered about that. hmmm..."}, {"response": 236, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (03:12)", "body": "My mother died today. My sister called about 10 am with the news. We were expecting it but I had hoped to visit her in two weeks. My last conversation with her was one of the best I have had in years, I didn't think it was going to be my last. She passed away peacefully. So I've been thinking back through the years today and remembering how her life was with it's ups and downs, her car accident, the wonderful years as kids at Chautauqua, the times in Houston when she moved to her apartment and the last years in Walnut Creek California where she stayed with my sister. Alice had been a real savior to mom over the last years, providing her with a home and comfort. She called my Uncle Harold and Aunt Ann today, and cousing Muriel and Aunt Jean in LA. Alice was in tears when she called this morning, it had only happened about 15 minutes before she called. It's a real different feeling, not having mom around any more."}, {"response": 237, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (07:07)", "body": "Terry, I'm sorry to hear of your loss. When my grandmother died, I knew that I had seen her and been able to talk to her on one of her last lucid days, and that has always been a comfort. I'm glad you and your mom had been able to have a good talk before the end. My thoughts are with you and your entire family."}, {"response": 238, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (12:47)", "body": "Thinking of you"}, {"response": 239, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (13:08)", "body": "*Hugs* Terry. Moms are very special people and I know you had a really good one because you turned out so splendidly. Everything you do and say reflects positively on her memory - I am sorry I did not meet her to thank her for you. My thoughts will be with you...as they are quite often anyway. Take care!"}, {"response": 240, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (13:28)", "body": "From John Burnett Terry, I am sorry about your mother's passing. Being prepared makes arrangements easier but you can't do your grieving in advance. I lost my dad in 1993 and not a day goes by that I still don't think about him. You are in my prayers. May God bless you. John"}, {"response": 241, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (16:51)", "body": "It's great that you two had a good relation with each other, Terry, and that she left without pain. Those are values one can't estimate too little. I wish you and your folks all the best. Comfort and take care of each other. Thinking of you, A."}, {"response": 242, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (23:59)", "body": "A new Droolian (but long time email friend of mine who responded the night we needed a contact in Canada...) asked me to post this for her: Could you please convey my deepest condolences to Terry. I don't know him yet but he does great stuff for CF. Indeed he does; you are in our hearts and prayers tonight, Terry!"}, {"response": 243, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 12, 2000 (00:01)", "body": "Oh, sorry...that was from Silvie!"}, {"response": 244, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Jan 12, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "God, terry, i am so sorry. i will be praying for you."}, {"response": 245, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 12, 2000 (17:01)", "body": "From another lady in Drool who is not quite comfortable about posting here: I was very sorry to hear about Terry's mom. Could you please forward my condolences to him. Tell him that Rumi is a great comfort in these situations. ...MoonDreams"}, {"response": 246, "author": "laughingsky", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (04:16)", "body": "Sending a big hug to you, Terry. You are in my thoughts and prayers."}, {"response": 247, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (07:44)", "body": "Thanks for all your good wishes. While I go to attend some affairs, I'm asking Ray and the folks steering austen.com and firth.com to continue on with the move to the new site."}, {"response": 248, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (11:37)", "body": "gosh Paul, I feel like I've been under a rock... I'm sorry to hear about your mother's death. That whole wheel of life seems decidedly separate from our daily living and beyond the initial shock and sadness, I hope your thoughts and reflections regarding your mother and your times with her are warm and comforting."}, {"response": 249, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (12:33)", "body": "Thanks Stacey, I've got a pile of cards on my dresser from the nice folks at Spring who sent condolences, I do have many nice thoughts of my mom, like the times she chased me around the tree at the park and many good memories, especially of the summers at Chautauqua."}, {"response": 250, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (10:32)", "body": "Chautauqua? As in the area around Boulder?"}, {"response": 251, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (12:11)", "body": "Chautauqua as in upstate New York? My former father-in-law spent his summers there, as well. It was quite the place! Wonder how it has evolved over the years and if it is still as prestigeous...!"}, {"response": 252, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (07:51)", "body": "The chautauqua of which I speak is in Illinois, just across the Missouri border north of St. Louis. What are the areas around Boulder and upstate NY like? I'm glad you're out from under the rock, Stace' I wish more folks would emerge from out under their rocks!"}, {"response": 253, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:26)", "body": "You say rock? I say roll! WHAZZAT SPELL? WHAZZAT SPELL?"}, {"response": 254, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:29)", "body": "Also, I second the motion Terry put forward: \"Folks, time to stop hibernating. What you waiting for, that hell freezes over? Damn, it might 'ave 'appened, and you coulda already 'ave missed it!\" I 'ave spoken."}, {"response": 255, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:32)", "body": "The Chautaqua area of New York State is in the Finger Lakes area in the north central area. A truly beautiful area and the home town named Chautaqua, NY. Alexander, I have no idea whazzat spell, but I am happy to see you posting again. Aloha!"}, {"response": 256, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:34)", "body": "Whazzat spell? Why, rock 'n' roll of course! Silly girl! hey hey, my my, ..."}, {"response": 257, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:50)", "body": "(I knew...*grin*)"}, {"response": 258, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (16:00)", "body": "... rock and roll will never die... (to finish Alexander's thought) Paul... Chautaqua is an area inside Boulder... right around the Flatirons. It's a gorgeous hiking park area... you used to live near Boulder during your bee pollen days, no? Marcia, your Chautaqua sounds very pretty too!"}, {"response": 259, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (16:04)", "body": "'Tis lovely. Lotsa big trees and serene lakes. Adirondack Mountains. Mosquitoes... I prefer your beautiful mountains, given the choice, Stace!"}, {"response": 260, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (17:59)", "body": "I visited Boulder for about a week when we were on the Caravan around the country. We picked rosehips in the snow up near Ward, CO. That was in the schoolbus days."}, {"response": 261, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (19:20)", "body": "You are a most interesting man, Terry. I just have to spend an evening with you sometime to learn some of the intracies of which I see lttle hints here and there. Fascinating! Intriguing, even..."}, {"response": 262, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (17:51)", "body": "RELEASED AT 1:30 P.M. February 2, 2000 ALASKA ALERTS PUBLIC TO FRAUDULENT SOLICITATION FOR FAMILY MEMBERS SEATTLE -- It is with great regret that Alaska Airlines must alert Internet users that a fraudulent Web site has been created on the World Wide Web soliciting donations for the families of the passengers and crew of Alaska Airlines Flight 261. The site is not sanctioned in any way by Alaska Airlines. Further, the fraudulent site may also cause further damage by the spreading of a computer virus to those who visit the site. The only official site for information about Flight 261 and benevolent fund raising efforts for the passengers and crew is www.alaskaair.com. Alaska Airlines has mobilized its own specially trained team of employees to support and care for the family of the passengers and crew on Flight 261. The airline will continue to help loved ones and families through this difficult time."}, {"response": 263, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 9, 2000 (15:21)", "body": "from Arca Max weird news Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:57:35 PST Things That Almost Make Sense A Billy Joel song has sparked a bit of controversy in the New York Senate race. New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is tweaking first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton over a piece of music that was played over the sound system prior to her otherwise carefully staged announcement Sunday that she is a candidate for the U.S. Senate from New York. A technician was playing a Billy Joel \"greatest hits\" CD -- evidently because it contained the anthem-like \"New York State of Mind.\" But another prominent track on the CD is \"Captain Jack,\" a story song about a young guy who passes the time on a Saturday night by smoking marijuana and giving himself pleasure. . . The New York Times quotes Giuliani as saying that \"everything was written out, everything was planned...and the message that got out, and they say by mistake...is 'Let's say yes to drugs.'\" A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton's campaign said neither the first lady nor her campaign staff chose to play the song, and that Giuliani should stick to the issues. But then, a lenient stance on drugs sounds like it might just be an issue..."}, {"response": 264, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "The Oldest Known Valentine in English The oldest known valentine message in the English language has been discovered in the British Library. Written in Norfolk in 1477, the letter from a young lady to her fiance goes on display at the library next month. \"My heart bids me evermore to love you over all earthly things\" it reads \"and if my friends say that I do amiss they shall not stop me from doing so\". 'Technology may have changed, but some things are the same' A spokesman for the library said."}, {"response": 265, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (15:18)", "body": "Like they say, \"The more things change, the more they stay the same\" (never quite understood that one, though...) Thanks, Maggie!"}, {"response": 266, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 24, 2000 (22:21)", "body": "Somewhere way off topic Terry asked me about Geomagnetism. I posted this in Geo and in Radio, but am not sure he will see it. So, I post in Porch, also: ---------------------- SFI=192 | A=28 | K=3 down from 4 at 0300 on 25 February. SAF: low to moderate, GMF: at unsettled to minor storm levels Aurora Level: 8 ********** That is a propagation report, for those who do not know. The strength and clarity of distant radio signals is directly a result of those numbers. The higher the first number is( SFI = Solar Flux Index), the better. All of the others, the lower the better. Solar flux is the stuff which the Sun flings in all directions as it pulsates from internal fusion. It is seriously bad stuff for Earth. We are saved from most of it by Geomagnetism. When the ionosphere is bombarded with enough ionized particles, Auroras occur, and if it is strong enough, can interrupt long distance phones, satellites, missle defense systems and other things terrestrial. Here is a little graphic which shows how it works: Oh yes, the GMF designation above = Geo Magnetic Field."}, {"response": 267, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 25, 2000 (13:02)", "body": "Since I still cannot telnet, would you please link History 5 to Today conference, please?! No one goes into history much, and the topic is \"This Day in History\" which is appropriate to Today as well as to History... ..isn't it?"}, {"response": 268, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (16:17)", "body": "I hope you don't mind me posting this here - I find it very upsetting. This is my part of the world. WEST AFRICA: IRIN Focus on child trafficking [2000229] [This report does not necessarily reflect the views of the United Nations] CHILDREN: IRIN Focus on child trafficking in west and central Africa LIBREVILLE, 28 February 2000 (IRIN) - From 14-year-old girls forced into prostitution to domestics just out of their infancy and pre-teen boys leased to cattlemen, west and central African children are being condemned to deprivation and servitude, researchers and officials told IRIN. No-one knows exactly how many young lives are broken in this way. In fact, finding out and keeping data bases on the twin evils of child trafficking and the exploitation of children's labour are part of a common platform for action agreed at a regional consultation held on 22-24 February. In most of the region, girls, some of them as young as eight years old, are taken from from rural areas to towns to work as domestics. Many work for 12 hours each day and more, and are subjected to physical, mental and sexual abuse. Those taken from their countries also face isolation, some studies noted. Children from Mali are taken to Cote d'Ivoire via Burkina Faso, which is both a supplier of and transit point for child workers. So are Benin, Ghana, Nigeria and Togo, some of which are also recipient countries. Children are taken to Equatorial Guinea and to and from Cameroon. Gambian researchers suspect that there might be children going to work as domestics in Banjul from the southern Senegalese region of Casamance where a guerrilla war has been going on for 17 years. Kounboua Boulo Edoux of the Ministry of Labour in Chad told IRIN that nomadic cattlemen from northern Cameroon and central Chad travel to Moyen Chari region in southern Chad in the dry season, contract boys from farming communities to tend their herds, and take them as far as Central African Republic (CAR). The 'Subregional Consultation on Developing Strategies on the Trafficking of Children for Exploitative Labour Purposes in West and Central Africa' was held in Libreville, capital of Gabon, one of the countries to which people illegally ship children, some of whom die along the way. In one such case some two years ago, Nigerian researcher Professor Peter Obigbo told IRIN, about 30 children drowned when a boat capsized while taking them from southern Nigeria to Gabon. Child trafficking occurs both within and between countries as studies presented at the consultation - organised by the UN Children's Fund (UNICEF) and the International Labour Organisation (ILO) showed. While doing sensitisation work in southern Chad on the worst forms of labour - the subject of a mid-1999 ILO convention that the Libreville meeting urged African governments to ratify - he met a small group of herdboys who had run away from their masters in the CAR. They were haggard, hungry and covered with wounds sustained while trekking through the bush back to the Chad border, according to Edoux. Their ages? \"Twelve, thirteen,\" he said. The herdsmen approach parents either directly or through middle men, or area residents who earn 3,000 CFA francs (less than US $5) per boy, according to Edoux. The child is supposed to work for six months after which he receives a calf as payment and is taken back to his parents, an arrangement which some masters honour. Others, however, find pretexts to end it prematurely, which means that the child is not paid, while some take the children with them when they go back to their home areas at the end of the dry season. According to Edoux, soldiers from Moyen Chari stationed in central Chad sometimes rescue children left stranded after being abandoned by or running away from their bosses. Boys are also contracted out to cattle rearers in Ghana, receiving a cow at the end of four years' service, according to Emelia Oguaah, executive director of the African Centre for Human Development and one of a team of consultants who presented at the consultation preliminary findings from research they did for a subregional project of the ILO's International Programme on the Elimination of Child Labour (ILO-IPEC). Other boys work as assistant fishermen and, according to information she obtained while doing her survey in areas along the Volta Lake in eastern Ghana, these children fall into two categories. \"Most are brought by their parents as apprentices in fishing or to work and assist the fishermen,\" Oguaah told IRIN. \"Their parents collect money and visit their children regularly. But there is another group of children who, people in the area suspect, were stolen and sold to the fishermen.\" Area residents told her nobody visited these children \"who become more or less slaves and are maltreated in various ways.\" Other Ghanaian children, girls, are taken to Cote d'Ivoire to work as maids, helpers in small restaurants or prostitutes, mainly by middle-aged Ghanaian women living in Cote d'Ivoire, acco"}, {"response": 269, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Mar 7, 2000 (13:36)", "body": "Still thinking about Mozambique. MOZAMBIQUE: IRIN Focus on reconstruction [This report does not necessarily reflect the views of the United Nations] JOHANNESBURG, 6 March (IRIN) - The scourge of landmines laid during Mozambique's 16-year civil war could pose a new threat to returning villagers when the flood waters subside, leaving many of the deadly weapons exposed, unstable or swept to new areas. Demining specialists in Mozambique told IRIN they feared that the hidden devices would make rehabilitation that much harder, and complicate the campaign to rid the country of landmines. \"We did not know for sure where the landmines were located before the floods started. Now we know even less after the mines were displaced by the floods,\" Jakob Kaarsbo of the UN's demining team in Mozambique told IRIN on Monday. Kaarsbo said demining activities have been put on hold because of the difficulty of access caused by flooding. Reconnaissance and surveys will have to be started afresh and maps redrawn once the floodwaters had subsided, he said. Nevertheless, the mine awareness campaign in Mozambique would continue. Kaarsbo's remarks were made as the country weighed the massive reconstruction effort that will be required to repair damaged roads, railway lines, bridges, schools and other infrastructure. Chissano estimates a multi-million package President Joachim Chissano announced that at least US $250 million will be needed to repair infrastructure in a country where the floods have also left more than a million people homeless, destroyed 10,000 hectares of planted fields, and claimed an estimated 30,000 head of cattle. Rui Fonseca, chairman of the state-owned Mozambican Ports and Railway Company (CFM), told IRIN the parastatal is losing an estimated US $50,000 a day due to floods which have paralysed the rail system in the southern parts of the country. Fonseca added that CFM has so far lost US $4.5 million in revenue since the start of the rains in February. \"CFM will need about US $7 million to repair the damage to the rail system,\" Fonseca said. He added that the worst damaged line is the Limpopo line that links the country's capital, Maputo to Zimbabwe. Fonseca said about 4km of the line was submerged, while a further 4km was hanging precariously over huge gullies. \"We expect the line to be operational in a month,\" Fonseca said. The Ressano Garcia line, linking Maputo to South Africa was reopened last Wednesday after the waters started receding, added Fonseca. Fonseca said, however, that the current repairs are being undertaken under an emergency plan, and that more substantial rehabilitation would cost much more. \"Under normal circumstances, repairing a kilometre of track costs between US $300,000 and US $400,000.\" International lending agencies decline to cancel debt Meanwhile, The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank, whom Mozambique owes at least US $8.3 billion have said they will not cancel the country's debt. The IMF is, however, reportedly considering an emergency support credit to Mozambique and will accelerate the country's access to the approved funds totalling US $17.5 million for the roads and coastal shipping project. A World Bank official in Maputo, told IRIN on Monday that the Bank has also offered a helping hand: \"The Bank has decided to suspend Mozambique's debt service for one year while the country tries to recover from the disaster.\" Jubilee 2000, the debt cancellation group, argues that Mozambique pays about US $73 million a year on debt servicing. This, said Jubilee 2000, compares to the country's budget of US $20 million for primary health care and US $32 million for primary education. Bilateral lenders Some bilateral creditors, however, have indicated their preparedness to cancel Mozambique's debt. Britain last week decided to cancel US $150 million owed by Mozambique, while Portugal wrote off US $150 million and Spain cancelled US $20 million. Jubilee 2000 argued that debt cancellation would make a significant difference only if Russia, Italy and France write off Mozambique's debts, which make up 50 percent of the country's bilateral debt. After completing six years of IMF-driven economic reforms, Mozambique was offered debt relief of US $3.7 billion last year under the heavily indebted poor countries (HIPC) initiative. Debt service payments were reduced on an annual basis from an average of US $114 million to US $73 million."}, {"response": 270, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (20:02)", "body": "I've followed the flooding stories and the 'relief efforts'... so hard to imagine so much hardship while living in my cozy little house... with my cozy little job and my cozy husband... We haven't had a TV in so long, I was horrified to watch the QuickTime movies of the rescues... don't see that ugly drama in the newspaper or on the radio..."}, {"response": 271, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 18, 2000 (14:29)", "body": "Just wait'll you deliver your baby in a tree top! I would not have survived and neither would have my son! Lots of this stuff posted in Geo http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/25 Miserable beyond belief!"}, {"response": 272, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (18:44)", "body": "We oughta have a place to announce really good stuff on conferences which we otherwise might not frequent. I can't find a better place than here that everyone reads (well, almost everyone...) so here goes. Geo topic 15 is Geosites for Kids (a place to find interesting stuff for parents, teachers, kids or really with-it adults.) There have been some really good stuff in there lately - even Emeritus Prof Frank noted how good it was. Now, do something really fun for yourself and check it out! Mahalo!"}, {"response": 273, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (18:50)", "body": "Oh, yes! Wolf has created a bunch of new topics in the collecting conference. Anyone collect Sports Memorabilia ****(Please link with Sports conference since I am still without telnet access to Spring!)**** Tie flies and collect same or fish for fun and/or food? How about model trains? I added mine to her collecting collection. Please check it out, too! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/collecting/all/new and Geo: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/new"}, {"response": 274, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (19:33)", "body": "Specific plea: Link Collecting Topic 59 to the Sports Conference, Please."}, {"response": 275, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (00:27)", "body": "I'm talking about the Oscars in movies tonight, since I just watched it and it's fresh in my mind. Did anyone else catch this years Oscars? Too bad Jeremy Northam didn't win supporting actor for the Winslow Boy, and Annette Benning lost in best actress. DeForrest Kelly wasn't mentioned among the departed cuts. George Lucas was totally ignored. But then there *was* something called the Matrix. Classiest act of the night was Michael Caine, he really gave others their credit. The comment to Tom Cruise was pure, unadulterated class. (He told him that supporting actors don't make near as much and it would have got him a pay cut)."}, {"response": 276, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (00:29)", "body": "DeForest Kelly was not mentioned? How could they ignore \"Bones\" of Star Trek?! I am very disenchanted with the whole Oscar scene...alas. Jaded, perhaps?"}, {"response": 277, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (14:53)", "body": "\"Blame Canada\" was clearly the best song! The rest were all boring pop-style songs."}, {"response": 278, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (13:23)", "body": "Oh, that's what he was called in the original series? In German, they'd dubbed him \"Pille\" - pill. Didn't know he'd died, hope it was hard for him. Hmh, perhaps they didn't mention it, because all the huffy movie folks got him marked as a tv person? Might be... I don't know any movies he'd been in but the early Star Trek movies... Where else was he in?"}, {"response": 279, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:00)", "body": "Before the original Star Trek (for TV) made him famous, he was a bit player in B-rated Westerns and invariably played a bad guy with a serious need for a shave. Not appealing, at all!"}, {"response": 280, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:37)", "body": "The Star Trek movies count for something."}, {"response": 281, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (15:56)", "body": "Indeed! (Large understatement on my part - sorry!)"}, {"response": 282, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (12:18)", "body": "Oh, definitely, Terry! And thanks for the info, Marcia!"}, {"response": 283, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (12:26)", "body": "*smile* Happy to help a fellow trekkie and those lurking..."}, {"response": 284, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (12:27)", "body": "Who's lurking?"}, {"response": 285, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (13:15)", "body": "If they would quit lurking and post something perhaps we qwould all know...yes? I have no idea ;)"}, {"response": 286, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 30, 2000 (14:17)", "body": "Ah so..."}, {"response": 287, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (11:35)", "body": "and something a bit serious....i posted this in web but not many people have that on their lists (thanks marcia).... i may sound like an alarmist and this is the wrong topic to post this in but, here goes nothing..... please teach your children to be careful surfing the web. pedophiles and stalkers are out there and are blatant about what they want. with chat rooms being offered as free additions to websites, it's harder for \"moderators\" to control and report anything suspicious. i've removed the chat rooms from my site."}, {"response": 288, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:13)", "body": "Thannks for posting this important message here. Two 11 yr old girls were lured to New Yrok City and raped recently. One is too many. Please take care and be aware of what your children are doing on the Internet."}, {"response": 289, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:28)", "body": "also, cops are posing as kids on the internet and arranging meetings to catch the bad guys, isn't that great? the show i watched last night showed them do just that! a male officer posed as a 13 year old teenage girl......luv it when they catch the bad guys."}, {"response": 290, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:35)", "body": "Me too...makes my day....*grin*"}, {"response": 291, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:39)", "body": "i would like to get the word out, does anyone know of any sites that spread the word about online pedophiles with buttons you can add to your site to help educate and inform your viewers? i have an anti child pornography on the web button but am looking for more of the same. and speaking of that, today, i got an email about teen sex sites and fetishes. disgusting."}, {"response": 292, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:43)", "body": "Never noticed. I shall from now on, though. Adultstory.com has some mentioned in the intro at the top of the frontpage..."}, {"response": 293, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:44)", "body": "Wot? You did not get one about animals?! Talk about disgusting...!"}, {"response": 294, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:47)", "body": "http://www.pedowatch.org http://www.asacp.org http://www.hackers.com/ehap http://www.safesurf.com"}, {"response": 295, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:48)", "body": "well, thank goodness, hotmail made a bulk mail box for those mails that have multiple addresses on them. i had been sending a lot of junkmail to hotmail's abuse email account and now this bulk box appears. what a great idea."}, {"response": 296, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (17:50)", "body": "Excellent. The more sites involved the less the chance of it proliferating, I hope, anyway...!"}, {"response": 297, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:13)", "body": "thanks for those links. i've got a pic up with a link to pedowatch.org. maybe we should add a couple for around here?"}, {"response": 298, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:17)", "body": "I think that is a splendid idea. One in Parents conference would be good and one in Collecting and SpringArk (I know you can do the latter 2 - can you do Parents, as well?)...Not sure about Geo but I can put one in there."}, {"response": 299, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:18)", "body": "Porch is the most travelled conference - or used to be outside of Drool. Post one!!!"}, {"response": 300, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:18)", "body": "don't have access to parents but will do it in para, collecting, springark, and poetry..."}, {"response": 301, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:18)", "body": "can't do it in porch either..."}, {"response": 302, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:30)", "body": "it's done on my conferences...."}, {"response": 303, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:32)", "body": "here's a banner that's nonintrusive and small: link it to http://www.pedowatch.org"}, {"response": 304, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:35)", "body": "That is great, wolfie...but it is right where my globe graphic is according to my config and I could not bear to do anything to that. Hmmm...lemme think...."}, {"response": 305, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:36)", "body": "we can get the masters of spring to put it up! don't take away your globe!!"}, {"response": 306, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:39)", "body": "I just tried it on ones without active hosts like screwed and the history which I was supposed to cohost (I am the only one active in there and I get no respect) but I was not granted access. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!"}, {"response": 307, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:40)", "body": "well, we'll just make sure terry knows about it and he comes in here once in awhile, right?"}, {"response": 308, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:41)", "body": "Did you read my venting in Grievances yesterday? Our Fearless leader reads but I think we must wait for the other since no one has even linked the ones we need (unless I call Kat and probably be paying $40 for a website I don't need just to be able to telnet so I can do these things....*frown* Amd I getting old and cranky or what?! (Please...be kind...!)"}, {"response": 309, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (18:45)", "body": "no you're not. i don't know where everyone is either...."}, {"response": 310, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (19:00)", "body": "I guess it is the time of year or whatever. Some are still trying to access Spring using the IP and email me why it no longer works...Others are lurking. I brought Lance and Ginny in lately, but I am rnning out of people I want to know me this well...or deserve to. (Thanks for saying I'm not *hugs*)"}, {"response": 311, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (19:02)", "body": "Speaking of our fearless leader, did you see how incredibly handsome he was on the latest video (NO, this is not to feed his ego, nor am I on a fishing expedition. Just stating facts!) ...Or did I ask you this before? I wanna picture of him like he looked in there! Awesome!"}, {"response": 312, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Mar 31, 2000 (20:34)", "body": "i think i missed it..."}, {"response": 313, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (11:27)", "body": "I tried to save the close-ups of him but even using pause and photographing the desktop did not work. I think there is no way to save it...so we gotta get someone with a snappy or something to do it. Spring has the choicest men attached to it, does it not?! *grin*"}, {"response": 314, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (14:54)", "body": "no bias there! *laugh*"}, {"response": 315, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:03)", "body": "*grin* I wonder how long I would have to leave for before I got a H1 come back Marcia on the Front Page. (Having been whipped into shape for adulthood promising me little by my 2 older sisters, it might be longer than my life expectancy!) Not bitter...not resentful...just hating being relegated to the bottom of the barrel again after having some really nice PR going. Yes, I know I could start my own webpage and post to blankness just as I do here some times."}, {"response": 316, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:22)", "body": "{Yeah, I know I need to take a long hike or a run out under my tree with the silky grass underneath and cool breezes....) ((((((Terry, You promised to make a most important visit. Please do so ASAP. It might be more important than you realize!!!)))))"}, {"response": 317, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:45)", "body": "talk to me, marcia.... HUGS"}, {"response": 318, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (15:46)", "body": "don't know how long i'll be online this afternoon, so email to your heart's content!"}, {"response": 319, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 1, 2000 (16:02)", "body": "I'm ok...I'll email you...*Hugs*"}, {"response": 320, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (00:39)", "body": "EARTHQUAKE - April 1 8:17 pm Hawaiian Standard time Guestimating it 5.5 magnitude"}, {"response": 321, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (11:31)", "body": "We had a quiet night, as far as I know. This was one of the strongest Earthquakes of recent times. Its epicenter was near Pu'u O'o on Kilauea's Southeast rift. It felt like some tremendously strong had shoved the entire house very abruptly - an unusual type. Usually they shake back and forth. John reported this morning \"I had dozed off and it woke me up. Certainly shook the six-story building I live in.\""}, {"response": 322, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:25)", "body": "the earthquake was in hawaii? (well, duh, if it woke john up).... heard that edo erupted again but nothing like it was on friday. unfortunately, that's all i know about that one. didn't even hear about your earthquake, marcia."}, {"response": 323, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "I know...if it happens over a weekend, even if the entire island explodes and disappears, you will not get information on it until Monday, and then, probably only from the foreign press...*sigh* I posted most of the information in Geo 26. Information is very slow in coming in even here where it happened. I am listening to the tour pilots as they can tell the changes in the volcano more quickly than the geologists on the ground can."}, {"response": 324, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:44)", "body": "John tried to imply on his radio show this morning that the earthquake was caused by his falling out of bed. NOT!!!"}, {"response": 325, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 2, 2000 (16:46)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 326, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 4, 2000 (20:01)", "body": "http://promotions.go.com/espn/mascots/challenge.html the Nittany Lion won the mascot battle! It was so close.. 50.0 to 49.9. Could anything be closer? But, it's great that your mascot won and I'm very happy for Penn State! 56,763 people actually voted on this important issue (including me, but we won't tell anyone!) I voted too, but I voted for my Nittany Lion! Thanks Barbara!!!"}, {"response": 327, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 5, 2000 (13:28)", "body": "From the Tallahassee Police Department fraud unit: We want to update you on several issues involving the latest e-mails making their way around, and to follow-up on what we believe is a telephone scam. 1. Computer Virus We received over 50 inquiries within the last week regarding the latest computer virus e-mail floating around. However, what is different with this one is that it may have some merit. The e-mail states that a virus may infect your computer which will completely erase your hard drive, as well as dial 911 from your modem. The e-mail went on to point out that the FBI had issued an advisory about this particular virus. Actually, it was the National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC) which is an off-shoot of the FBI. You can read about this virus advisory at http://www.fbi.gov/nipc/nipcaaw.htm TPD's Public Information Office does not claim to be computer virus experts, and we have little understanding (and even less desire to know) of how this virus works or how to adequately deal with the virus should your computer become infected. Our purpose only is to respond to your inquiries about these e-mail rumors. For more specific and technical information, please contact your System Administrator. 2. ATM Envelopes/Cyanide E-mail Hoax This is another e-mail rumor that will not seem to go away. The e-mail makes specific reference to a person who died after licking an envelope from a Bank of America ATM machine. As far as we know, this rumor is totally false. We dealt with this particular e-mail rumor over a year ago, but it still keeps coming back. You can read about this latest urban legend at http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/culture/urbanlegends/library/weekly/aa04030 0a.htm If anyone has ANY credible proof that such an event took place, please let us know. Otherwise, delete the e-mail when it is sent to you, and please do not forward it to anyone. 3. TeleNation Update On March 21, 2000, we issued E-Alert # 00-07. This alert, in part, dealt with suspicious calls being received by some of our subscribers from a company called \"TeleNation.\" Our readers stated that someone was calling their homes and asking a number of questions about the number of children in the family, computer habits, etc. We referred this matter to Investigator Gary Steinberg in TPD's Criminal Intelligence Unit for follow-up. Here is the text from his e-mails to us regarding his findings: \"We completed a national search and found a corporation of the same name (TeleNation) out of North Miami Beach. There is no listing for phone service, though. I had a Detective from North Miami Beach PD go by the location for TeleNation today. The business was locked up but the Detective was able to contact the building manager. The manager said he has seen the person leasing the office come and go a few times, and that's it. The Detective left a note on the door for that person to call, but we have no expectation he will. Based on what the Detective observed and learned, she suspects a phone scam-type of business. Please instruct people to refuse any cooperation with any phone survey unless the caller is willing to provide the necessary information, name of business and call back number, to verify that the survey is legitimate.\" As we stated on March 21st, we are not saying that TeleNation is not a legitimate company. They may certainly be legitimate, but we are concerned with their survey methods and would like to know more about them. If anyone from TeleNation calls you and begins asking questions, please follow Inv. Steinberg's advice - don't tell them anything until they identify themselves, their company, and until they provide you with a call-back number. Legitimate survey companies will gladly do this. Also, please instruct your children that if a responsible adult is not present when calls such as these are received - don't relay any information about anyone living in the home. Instead, have your children ask for a call-back number."}, {"response": 328, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "I was asked to post this by a USMC retired Col. Many of us remember that during the Vietnam war Jane Fonda opposed the war, as many others, but she went to Vietnam and embarrassed the US Government and the prisoners of war by her actions. Many of these actions are spelled out below. It is appalling that her actions have been forgotten and that she may be honored as one of the \"100 Women of the Century.\" JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our \"country\" but the men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison-the \"Hanoi Hilton.\" Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American \"Peace Activist\" the \"lenient and humane treatment\" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of wooden baton. From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent years in the \"Hilton\"-the first three of which he was \"missing in action.\" His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothe routine in preparation for a \"peace delegation\" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: \"Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?\" and \"Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors? \" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge... and handed him the little pile. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four. Another letter received, To whom it may concern: I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a \"black box\" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's \"war criminals.\" When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as \"humane and lenient.\" Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. Her former husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as \"100 Years of Great Women.\" Please take the time to read and forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that \"we will never forget. \" Lest we forget...\"100 years of great women.\" What do you think? It is worthwhile passing on? Millions of vets who served during the Vietnam War believe it is. Please write your Legislators and voice your concern Whatever you decide, thanks for taking the time to read this."}, {"response": 329, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (14:33)", "body": "Btw, the man who sent it to me spent many years as POW there. He is no phoney or rabble-rouser. He feels this deeply!"}, {"response": 330, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (10:52)", "body": "It puts a whole different spin on Jane Fonda. And she's in denial?"}, {"response": 331, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (13:25)", "body": "She has been \"born again\" so it is expunged from her heavenly record and we are supposed to do the same with our memories, I guess. I think it will not be that easy to do. Denial is a good word here!"}, {"response": 332, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (07:41)", "body": "The Today Show is live from Hawaii today, Volcano National Park? on Kileua (sp?), so if they run this when you wake up Marci you might want to check it out."}, {"response": 333, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (08:53)", "body": "Now is 2:54 am in Hawaii and Matt is in front of a volcano. http://today.nbc.com has him answering questions about Hawaii today. Incredible lava shosts."}, {"response": 334, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (09:15)", "body": "Check out the http://www.saveseed.com topic in the projects conference. I've overhauled this site and added some actual content instead of just a sign that says \"future home of http://www.saveseed.com"}, {"response": 335, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (13:29)", "body": "We just saw it about 1/2 hour ago. That is one neat volcano, no?! I was hoping someone would see it on Spring. Yay!!! I am surprised there weren't pix of me during the time the subdivision was being covered. We were doing disaster relief work...it was heart-breaking! So, now you've seen the man who is retiring as Civil Defense Chief, Harry Kim. He is the neatest guy on the planet and he has a way to getting everyone to agree with him when it is a life and death situation. We will miss him terribly. He was the voice of calm in chaos!"}, {"response": 336, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 8, 2000 (22:23)", "body": "Columbia, Online News offer Web journalism prizes NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Online News Association and olumbia University's journalism school, home of the Pulitzer Prizes, Monday announced the creation of a new set of international awards for the best in Internet journalism. The Online Journalism Awards will honor outstanding online journalism each year with 11 prizes in six categories, the Graduate School of Journalism and the Online News Association (ONA) said in a statement. Entries must be from English-language Web sites only, but the sites may be based anywhere. The journalism school will administer the awards at the request of the ONA, a professional group of reporters, producers and editors working in new media journalism. ``We believe these awards will be a major step towards one of our most important goals recognizing and encouraging journalistic excellence in this new medium,'' Rich Jaroslovsky, president of ONA and managing editor of the online Wall Street Journal, said in the statement. Journalism school Dean Tom Goldstein said, ``We are excited to administer the new awards as they will help to set the standards in the world of online journalism.'' The school administers the Pulitzer Prizes for newspaper journalism, letters, drama and music; the National Magazine Awards; the Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Awards in Broadcast Journalism; the Maria Moors Cabot Prizes in inter-American Journalism; and other awards. The Online Journalism Awards' six categories are general excellence, online commentary, breaking news, enterprise journalism, service journalism and most creative use of the medium. The inaugural contest will be launched officially on July 3, with details and entry forms available at http://www.onlinejournalismawards.org . Articles published between July 1, 1999, and June 30, 2000, will be eligible. Sreenath Sreenivasan, a professor of new media at the school and a founding member of ONA, has been named administrator of the awards."}, {"response": 337, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (12:40)", "body": "i wanna find out why this place is so dead! yesterday, i made a couple of posts and walked away for several hours. checked back in and my posts were still sitting in the \"last five responses\". WHAT's UP WITH THAT???? marcia and i cannot possible post by ourselves all the time and keep this place interesting! (although we certainly try) so you summer vacationing people, find a cyber cafe and post!! and the rest of you, get your butts back over here!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 338, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (22:33)", "body": "You tell'um, Wolfie!!! For Geo's 1st birthday it would have been nice if some of the lurkers posted something. They must be as bored seeing Wolf's and my posts as we are! Get your buns in gear and post something. It does not cost anything!!!"}, {"response": 339, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (18:55)", "body": "Well, Americ is back.......see him starring in Geo! New Topic and all. Yay!!!"}, {"response": 340, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (19:29)", "body": "another new topic? wow!!"}, {"response": 341, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (23:14)", "body": "Whoopee!!! Yup! and he actually said soemthing in there unlike another drive by creator who plopped bioregions in Geo and never came back to see it. Oh well. Yes, I am delighted that Mike and Americ created their own and use them."}, {"response": 342, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (08:48)", "body": "Talk 2000 Olympics in the sports conference, NBC's Kristen Huntley is looking for chat hosts. What else is going on around Spring oday?/"}, {"response": 343, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 31, 2000 (16:30)", "body": "I am still encouraging men who contact me to look at Geo and they often wander about Spring to check it out. My most promising poster, however, spends his time alotted for the internet talking privately with me. Oh well, He is very special!!! I have had many check in. Last night an astro engineering major from the USAF Academy talked to me and I got him do download Seti@home. I will hear from him again, I am sure. Have not lost one yet - and have had more than one proposal...! I do, however send the terminally young and lusty on their way with a tender suggestion that they need a younger specimen than I. Sometime I get them back, too! Life on the interent is truly interesting and there ares such intellgent and worthy men out there...*sigh* (Some are actually planning to visit the volcano...!!!)"}, {"response": 344, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (09:30)", "body": "Hope you can get some of them to go public, keep trying!"}, {"response": 345, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 1, 2000 (19:03)", "body": "Got a some to login and two to post. One in Archaeology and one in Paleontology. The former is too busy digging now to post and the latter uses his per minute charges talking to me *smile* Oh, and another in Paleo... Am working on two astronomically-inclined gentleman and a geologist who is not related to me at this time..."}, {"response": 346, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sat, Sep 2, 2000 (03:12)", "body": "Not related to Spring ... I've been shovelling sand from the back car park (nearest point to the back of my terraced house) into the garden. Today the paving slabs get laid in front of the French windows which were put in a six months ago....I have my eldest daughter's engagement party tonight, so I need to get the sand out of my hair for that. Oh well, think of the muscles I'm developing, who needs to go to the gym!!!! Next week we get a skip to put all the rubbish in.....I hate sorting things out, but I hate being in a mess too. Hooray, the four indoor doors that are now propping up my garden shed will go in the skip and disappear.... now what else can I put in there?????? The big worry is that other people will also put stuff in the skip - and we have to pay per ton to have it disposed of!!!"}, {"response": 347, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (04:41)", "body": "Americ's back in the philosophy conference. Michael Moore's musings on the presidential race in politics. Lot's in geo and today. There must be an army of lurkers, based on our stats."}, {"response": 348, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (05:36)", "body": "Hey! Have a look in Education and Culture conferences, please...."}, {"response": 349, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (08:23)", "body": "Really, some good stuff in there!"}, {"response": 350, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (13:03)", "body": "Maggie, Geo first!!! Then, \"social\" schedule permitting, I will hunt for your stuff. You got Terry to read it! You must have some appeal I lack ( I must expend it all of it on IM...) Yeah yeah yeah, I know... I promise to go look!"}, {"response": 351, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (13:09)", "body": "If only 10% of the people who become aware of Geo actually go look at it, we are getting a bunch more hits than before I took to IM seduction (for enticement to post only , of course.) I know for a fact that at least the Europeans pay for their phone calls to the internet by minute, and prefer to talk to me personally when they do get online. Perhaps when they get bored with me..."}, {"response": 352, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Sep 4, 2000 (18:46)", "body": "Thanks for the positive responses. I will continue to hunt up some good stuff...."}, {"response": 353, "author": "Carys", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (18:03)", "body": "May I say hello to everyone sitting on the porch?"}, {"response": 354, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 11, 2000 (21:29)", "body": "Take off your shoes and pull up a chair and join us!!!"}, {"response": 355, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Sep 12, 2000 (03:25)", "body": "What are you drinking??? Mine's good old english tea at the moment ... yesterday it was half bottle of wine, and I wasn't reponsible for the consequesnces!!!! *grin*"}, {"response": 356, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Sep 13, 2000 (07:52)", "body": "We arrived Sunday, July 16. We were both numb from the travel. Hawaii, as we later learned, is the most geographically remote location on Earth. We arrived at the Kona Coast Resort, checked in, and the rest is a blur. We woke Monday feeling great. Absolutely lost, but great. We needed a guidebook! We found a great bookstore (Middle Earth Bookstore, right behind Crazy Shirts) along the Kona coast, about a 10-minute drive north along the Pacific shore. I went looking at other stuff while Carol checked out the guides. Suddenly, she excitedly approached me with this weird-looking book in her hands. The cover seemed to glow. The Secrets & Mysteries of Hawaii. This is Jeffrey Field or fattymoon talking about Hawaii, more excerpts and a link are in today's travel conference."}, {"response": 357, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 28, 2000 (23:39)", "body": "Briefly, when passed by John Burnett and a former relative, the comments ranged from what was he smoking to if he had a former life as a teacher at Laupahoehoe school (the one he could not remember the name of) he would have known not to pick up any rocks. I must read futhrer into his travels...they are highly amusing for someone who lives here but terribly misleading for those who do not. However, he does appreciate the glories of this island which are so varied that we comprise a mini-continent all by ourselves."}, {"response": 358, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct 4, 2000 (20:33)", "body": "ghost stories! halloween is upon us and we want to hear 'em--paraspring 27 is the place to be!!"}, {"response": 359, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 4, 2000 (21:00)", "body": "Scare yourself and us, too!!! Meet you at Wolfie's Den!"}, {"response": 360, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Nov 20, 2000 (08:14)", "body": "In the politics conference, find out the real news about the Florida recount, the news that lies buried on the 3rd and 4th pages of newspapers, and see if my predictions on this Florida mess come true. This thing may have some twists and turns that you haven't heard of yet!"}, {"response": 361, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 20, 2000 (13:44)", "body": "You are gonna make us hunt for it? Sheesh. I remember posting the URL for the specific post I wanted folks to read. Oh well, I guess learning 3 years on is better than never. Off I go to read your posting if I can find it..."}, {"response": 362, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (17:12)", "body": "OKOKOK---what happened to http://www.spring.net???? ? are we being hacked?"}, {"response": 363, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (17:12)", "body": "Did you find it? Ooops, I blew away the main page for a few hours today! Got it back just now."}, {"response": 364, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "I messed up earlier today thinking I was saving and index.html in to a subdirectory but I saved it in to the root web! Good thing I surfed to the main page a little while agao. I hope this main page is up to date enough."}, {"response": 365, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (17:14)", "body": "*whew*"}, {"response": 366, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (17:16)", "body": "thank you, i was freaking out!! *HUGS*"}, {"response": 367, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (17:19)", "body": "Thanks for restoring order - we were afraid hackers had gotten in.."}, {"response": 368, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (17:27)", "body": "Sorry to barge in here, but I just wanted to wish the Springuers a Happy Thanksgiving."}, {"response": 369, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 21, 2000 (19:18)", "body": "Hauoli La H'omaika'i"}, {"response": 370, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Nov 23, 2000 (16:12)", "body": "HAPPY THANKSGIVING fellow Springuers!!"}, {"response": 371, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 23, 2000 (17:38)", "body": "Hauoli La Ho'omaika'i"}, {"response": 372, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Dec 24, 2000 (12:54)", "body": "Happy Holidays to One and All!!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 373, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (05:40)", "body": "Happy holidays, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2001!"}, {"response": 374, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (12:21)", "body": "the real Millenium!! *woohoo*"}, {"response": 375, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 26, 2000 (12:25)", "body": "(terry, the spring stats link isn't working on the main menu)"}, {"response": 376, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 3, 2001 (15:57)", "body": "Happy Birthday Kilauea 0930 January 3, 2001 You know how hard it is to remember anniversaries, especially \"after all these years.\" Well, that happened today until a sentimentalist reminded us that today is the 18th anniversary of the ongoing eruption, which was born on January 3, 1983, and is now a healthy adult with no sign of early senescence."}, {"response": 377, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jan 11, 2001 (08:52)", "body": "Temptation Island and The Mole, two new shows and two new topics in the tv conference. And two new Survivor spinoffs."}, {"response": 378, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 11, 2001 (13:34)", "body": "Yup, I know a great deal about the island on which it was filmed, and a few important people thereon http://www.aprivateisland.com/ For the special few (it can handle 12 people each with individual attention)for a mere $1000+ per day per person including your own private butler."}, {"response": 379, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jan 11, 2001 (19:02)", "body": "Have you ever visited there? Did you see this show the other night?"}, {"response": 380, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 11, 2001 (19:38)", "body": "I not only watched, I taped but did not recognize either guy I know there (long story best told in email). No, never been there... yet... porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 57, "subject": "search engines are our friends", "response_count": 36, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (07:57)", "body": "Ree will like this one: In addition, you may wish to use our \"This Site Listed In The Art Planet\" icon b y placing the following HTML somewhere on your site: -- The Art Planet Staff"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (07:57)", "body": "YOUR SITE LINK WILL BE LISTED IN WOYAA! ######################################## Africa Search (FR) http://www.woyaa.com/indexFR.html Africa Search (ENG) http://www.woyaa.com/index.html Africa News Wire http://www.africawire.com/africawire.html Africa Events Calendar http://www.woyaa.com/africaevents.html RADIO AFRICA in RealAudio http://www.radioafrica.com/radioafrica.html ######################################## Thanks for taking the time to add your site link to WoYaa Africa Search."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (07:58)", "body": "For complete details on our co-op programs and to preview your enhanced listing, please point your browser to: http://www.where2go.com/co-op Good luck in your web venture... Together we really can make the web a better place! Sincerely, Terri Anderson ------------------------- Site Research Coordinator Terri@Where2Go.com"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (07:59)", "body": "Subject: Canlinks Addition - http://www.canlinks.net/ This is an automated message as a record of your addition to the Canlinks Directory There is no need to reply. __________________________________________________ The following INFORMATION was automatically sent for Paul Terry Walhus from http://www.canlinks.net/addalink/addalink.cgi Submitted on : Wed Feb 17 1:08:50 PST 1999 __________________________________________________ Name : Paul Terry Walhus E-MAIL Address : terry@spring.net __________________________________________________ Location : Central USA __________________________________________________ Linkname/ : Spring company name Link comment : best online gossip and chat in Austin Texas Link address : http://www.spring.net __________________________________________________ Subcategories : Other Entertainment and Media Details : __________________________________________________ best online gossip and chat in Austin, talk about anything from art to Internet to business. It's edgy and cool. - Gregory Kallenberg, tech culture column, XL, Austin American Statesman, 8/27/98."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (06:39)", "body": "Someone give William an award quick dept: http://www.foodcontact.com Link Confirmation Food Contact Web Site LDM Internet Marketing 937 Post Road, Suite 323 Fairfield, CT 06430 Spring best online gossip and chat in Austin Texas with William E Roland's award winning restaurant and food conferences."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (06:49)", "body": "Educational Resource Directory"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:33)", "body": "Thank you for visiting PastryWiz Food Search. Your listing has been posted and will be reviewed shortly. If you need assistance please write to arnold@pastrywiz.com BEGIN INFO Congratulations, you can now add a special PastryWiz Top Food Site image to your website. src=\"http://www.sweettechnology.com/images/foodsite.gif\" width=\"102\" height=\"129\" alt=\"PastryWiz\" border=\"1\">"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:08)", "body": "oops...think we lost something there..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:36)", "body": "in re response #5, Terry, go look in the food conf from the web..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Feb 20, 1999 (12:55)", "body": "Title: The Spring URL: http://www.spring.net/ Category: MISCELLANEOUS/SOCIAL Description: The Spring is a virtual community/conferencing system flesh-based in Austin, Texas. What would you like to talk about today? You can see your new listing at: http://esoterism.com/links"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Feb 20, 1999 (12:56)", "body": "Thank you for visiting our site. We've added the following link into our directory: Title: The Spring's Spirit Conference URL: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/spirit/all Category: RELIGIONS Description: The spirit conference at the Spring has discussion topics for all aspects of religion and spirituality, and if not, feel free to join up and add the ones you want! You can see your new listing at: http://esoterism.com/links"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Feb 20, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "Thank you for visiting our site. We've added the following link into our directory: Title: The Spring's Philosophy Conference URL: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/philosophy/all Category: SPIRITUALITY Description: A place to discuss all aspects of philosopy, including your own! Join up and dive in now! You can see your new listing at: http://esoterism.com/links"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (00:02)", "body": "they are our friends especially if you use the goto.com search box featured on http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/main as we get 2 cents for every use of said search box... search, search, search, kiddies! Daddy needs a new pair of socks, and Alexander wants a gift pack..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (10:08)", "body": "I shall begin researching presently!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (10:32)", "body": "All I get right now is a cookie when I load thar page... The searching is nice, though. Not only did it find all the other relevant sites I already got with other engines (hotbot, altavista, Lycos, excite), but two new ones I didn't get before!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:00)", "body": "okay, we've only earned 16 cents so far..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:18)", "body": "Hey, whazzat - four of them are mine!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:22)", "body": "Braggart!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "*laugh*"}, {"response": 20, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "So what! Wanna make sumpthin' of it?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:35)", "body": "you'd lose..."}, {"response": 22, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:44)", "body": "Not you, lady, that big lump o' no-good ovah there! Anytime! Anytime, I say!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (14:31)", "body": "you win"}, {"response": 24, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (16:37)", "body": "Great, now let's go and celebrate that in some cozy watering hole around here - you pay!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (16:41)", "body": "virtual money for virtual beer... I think I might be able to afford that..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (17:11)", "body": "So, where do we go?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (17:12)", "body": "the virtual bar, no?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (17:21)", "body": "Oh. I thought I'd get shown around the place, what with being guest here, and a winner today, etc. The virtual bar. What a thrill. :=/"}, {"response": 29, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (17:27)", "body": "hey there, mister... don't jump all over my butt... I wasn't invited... (it stuntedmy creative juices being snubbed like that.)"}, {"response": 30, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (18:46)", "body": "we haven't left yet, either... (btw, can I jump all over your butt?)"}, {"response": 31, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (05:04)", "body": "OK, here's the plan. Stacey, you figure the place to go to - after all, this is search engines are our friends, not thirsty throats 'R' Us or Butt Jumpers 'r' not like us at all -, we get something nice to drink, Wer pays, and then you kids can get that butt thing straightened out. SO! Off we GO! Where to, Miss Vura?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (10:32)", "body": "(still thinkin... little slow today)"}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (11:32)", "body": "is there a rule of thumb about coffee before beer?"}, {"response": 34, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (11:44)", "body": "for me, yes unless I'm camping. Then either will do"}, {"response": 35, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (11:56)", "body": "at any time of the day do the preferences get reversed and/or new priority(sp?) status?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jan 25, 2001 (10:09)", "body": "http://www.austen.com/_webtrends Very interesting! porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 58, "subject": "spring mailing list", "response_count": 39, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Mar 24, 1999 (14:50)", "body": "I am on the ONElist for Vegetarian Parents."}, {"response": 2, "author": "jgross", "date": "Wed, Mar 24, 1999 (16:07)", "body": "I'm on the ONElist for Vegetarian Vegetables. Very colorful, and it's not all in the ground. Some of us get eaten though, and have many exciting digestion stories to tell. I've had to consult with Andrew Weil for help on how to best describe these stories to non-vegetables. Let me tell ya, he's been a big help. I recommend him. He's very delicious. I mean *I* am (excuse me, sorry, a little booboo there)."}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (00:45)", "body": "face it, Jim, we are all very delicious and edible! (some of us just need different condiments...)"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (18:31)", "body": "wait, i don't get it. what's the onelist for?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (19:18)", "body": "(hey, Wolf!)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (22:52)", "body": "(*snicker, snicker*)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (23:15)", "body": "(the taste that satisfies?)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (00:43)", "body": "This is an ooops topic in books, cause I messed up trying to link the afterlife austen and bronte topic here from porch. Typed 58 instead of 68, hey, it's late and I'm tired so cut me some slack, ok?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Dec 19, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "OK!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 19, 1999 (16:25)", "body": "I am so confused..."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 20, 1999 (08:38)", "body": "I guess I can unlink this topic."}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 20, 1999 (09:33)", "body": "i still don't know what the onelist is for *frown*"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 20, 1999 (10:40)", "body": "Email jgross, I guess."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (09:21)", "body": "Let's revive the mailing list. Please post your email here if you want to be on our mailing list. This will help with our current transition."}, {"response": 15, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (10:03)", "body": "mswolf68@hotmail.com"}, {"response": 16, "author": "heide", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (11:24)", "body": "hkalb@aol.com I would like to know more about the transition. Thanks, Terry."}, {"response": 17, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (12:48)", "body": "And put me down as well rosie45@hotmail.com"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (12:49)", "body": "marci@aloha.net Mahalo!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (16:06)", "body": "ray.lopez@mindspring.com"}, {"response": 20, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Mon, Jan 10, 2000 (12:51)", "body": "sociolingo@hotmail.com (ignore this Marcia keep using the one you have!)"}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Jan 10, 2000 (13:32)", "body": "(ray, mindspring? you know, they do have my original domain don't you? *heehee*)"}, {"response": 22, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (17:02)", "body": "(whazzat mean, oh canine-pawed one?)"}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (20:16)", "body": "that means that mindspring created a website with the name \"midnightwolf.com\". this had been my idea and was thrown about a bit. when i finally went to register it as mine, it was taken and i had to settle for midnightwolf.net. so i've been trying to figure out how they got the name."}, {"response": 24, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (04:53)", "body": "Like, they thought it was a cool one? What they use it for? Anyhow, I like .net better for non-commercial things... Shows a certain attitude, I guess. .com sounds so, uh, money-ish, know what I mean? That's why I think .net domain names are great for folks, projects and places like the Spring."}, {"response": 25, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (22:08)", "body": "moorehdg@erols.com"}, {"response": 26, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (23:03)", "body": "dwguild@yahoo.com works for me."}, {"response": 27, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (23:35)", "body": "Yes, it does! Hi Ann! What are you doing online at this hour?!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (08:13)", "body": "terry@spring.net is working now on the new server. If you are someone@spring.net let me know and I can set up an email account for your there. The same will go for austen, firth, midnightwolf, etc when we move those sites to the new server. Spring kind of schized out right now, running on two servers till Ray moves Yapp over, he has to tar it up and move it to the new site. AFter then, the rest of the migration will move swiftly."}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (13:10)", "body": "Guve Ray whgatever he wants/needs including dancing girls, executive chef, masseuse and Father Confessor... and buckets of \"tar\" commands I just came from Unix conf and that a tangled mess that is. I am delighted to know that some think it an easy but tedious thing to do - as all programming seems to be!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (13:11)", "body": "(Think I'd better wake up some more before posting any more. Sorry!)"}, {"response": 31, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (14:19)", "body": "Could you set up anneh@www.spring.net again? or anneh@spring.net? (I've been using the one with the www for a long time as my primary address, but the one without would be cleaner.) Also, what is happening with all of the files I have in my \"spring.net/~anneh\" account??"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 21, 2000 (09:01)", "body": "They're still there and I'll set up the anneh account tonight. Email me details to terry@spring.net and cc to sprin5@spring.net."}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (15:50)", "body": "Hiya! I'm in Ann's boat... I've had a Spring account since 1995 and it is my default account for just about everything... can I get stacey@www.spring.net back along with all my old files???? What info do i have to email you? Username, password or something more specific?!?! YEAH!!! I'll feel whole again!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (16:42)", "body": "Just about everything...except the photos I posted for you which are on my inaccessable access.spring.net account...*sigh* But, my time will come. All things come to those....who scream the loudest?! Not my style...I'll sit over here out of the way and wait till the important sites are back online."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (09:14)", "body": "Email me w/ username, password, mailing address, phone nos. the usual stuff and I'll set up the accounts as I get the emails. Also, let me know if you need ftp access to any areas of our site."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 26, 2000 (09:32)", "body": "Email to terry@spring.net, and cc to springnet@visto.com, sprin5@spring.net"}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 2, 2000 (23:41)", "body": "Ok there are about 5 posts on telnet which are not in here...but I have'em if anybody wants them... Tis working great this evening (for me) and the middle of the night (for everybody else)... Mahalo!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (07:53)", "body": "Yeah, Marci, there's a twilight zone of about 5 days between the time I tarred up the old conferences and the time they started running here. There's still time to copy and paste stuff from the old ip address 206.97.234.70 if anyone wants to haul their old stuff over here. I should have been more clear the day I did the tar -cvf stuff and told folks they were going be posting to vapor for a few days."}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (12:36)", "body": "I am very happy I did mine yesterday for Geo and for other topics I have created elsewhere. All of my topics are up to date as of this moment *relieved smile* porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 59, "subject": "Please enter your tech specs", "response_count": 61, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "Well, to start the ball rolling, here are mine :) 1. Browser: Netscape 4.08 2. Java: yes 3. JavaScript: yes 4. 1024x768 @ 24 bit colour"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (22:34)", "body": "IE 5.0 running under Win 98 and Win 2000 on various workstations around my office. I have Netscape running on some machines."}, {"response": 3, "author": "jgross", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (22:49)", "body": "1.Netscape 3.0 2.no java, no latte, no espresso, no cappuccino, no cappelletti, no caponata 3.uh-uh (i mean i don't think so, i doubt it....maybe it does) 4.must be kinda crummy (low numbers) --- don't know how to find out (i asked this 486 computer o' mine, but it wouldn't say (doesn't do text-to-speech) 5.it says now that it can talk cuz it just got back from seeing \"The Matrix\" (now i can't shut it up.....it be doin' speech-to-spiel)"}, {"response": 4, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (23:02)", "body": "Here goes: 1. Netscape 2.0 (stop laughing! I can't figure out how to install the new one.) 2. no clue 3. no clue 4. no clue"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (01:27)", "body": "1. AOL 4.0/Internet Explorer 4.0 2. Yes 3. Yes 4. 640x480 with a huge 256 colors on a 14\" monitor"}, {"response": 6, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (11:59)", "body": "*laughing my ass off* damn... we're quite the mix! 1. IE 4.0; Netscape 4 2. yes 3. yes 4. ditto WER Still laughing... the \"no clue, no clue\" and the \"no latte, no caponata\" really got me going!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:01)", "body": "CLARIFICATION: (as if I really needed it ) I'm not laughing AT anyone. I'm just laughing cuz on one hand we got Paul the techie from hell genius and then we got Autumn who's like \"screw you guys... I get on here just fine.\" and Jim who made quite the wordplay and me who's had too much caffeine already this morning and WER and Mike who really know what they're talking about and me who still has had WAY too much caffeine and it's my birthday so I'm a little silly anyway and... and... thanks for making me laugh guys"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:02)", "body": "yep, as usual \"standards\" abound here at the Spring!!!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:02)", "body": "*laughing my ass off* damn... we're quite the mix! 1. IE 4.0; Netscape 4 2. yes 3. yes 4. ditto WER Still laughing... the \"no clue, no clue\" and the \"no latte, no caponata\" really got me going!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:03)", "body": "oops... that's what I get for telnetting and browsering simeltaneously... funky posting! Number 9 shouldn't exist again..."}, {"response": 11, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:03)", "body": "I'm sorry I forgot... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, STACEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:04)", "body": "thank you... (this game o leap frog is fun!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:10)", "body": "something like that... I even went through all the old posts while you was in Europe to find out when it was...oh, well, maybe next year...now, back to our regularly scheduled topic..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (06:08)", "body": "My Specs: According to a local newspaper article (that got more than that bit wrong), I'm redheaded and wear small spectacles. Bloke wouldn't inform his readers on how tall I am (or not), and the weight-to-brains-ratio (aka \"payload\"-ratio). So, sorry can't tell you 'bout them specs."}, {"response": 15, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (07:00)", "body": "hmm...interesting stuff :) I only asked because I was thinking about the Babes conf the other day and wondered what it looked like in 640*480*256...and the answer was: awful :) So I was rather hoping that everyone was running in more than 256 colours to save my blushes...I guess not :) Anyway, it seems that some ppl have java/javascript and others don't. So, do you think it would be ok to put non-critical (like nice, but not important) stuff in Java/Javascript in? Oh, and Autumn, if you did want to upgrade your netscape, just go to www.netscape.com ....they've made it really easy to do these days so you wouldn't have any trouble"}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (10:56)", "body": "my turn, my turn: laughing my butt off at stacey and autumn and jim (no offense) 1. Netscape and IE 5.0 (windows 95 and msn) 2. Yeah 3. I think 4. Dunno plug-ins don't work, cuz i get that stupid message all the time. (haven't noticed, though now that i've upgraded to IE 5)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (10:10)", "body": "*laugh* are you laughing at me??? huh? I said, Are you laughing at me?? *grin*"}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (19:50)", "body": "i dunno, lemme see.....yup, you're the only one in here right now....whatcha want to do about it? huh, tough gal? *big grin*"}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (10:32)", "body": "I'm gonna growl and shine my new shiny ring in yer face til you cry \"uncle\""}, {"response": 20, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (00:17)", "body": "Oh, what's it look like? Mine is a pear-shaped solitaire on a plain gold band."}, {"response": 21, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (04:48)", "body": "Yeah, let us in on how these alien tracking devices look like these days!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:02)", "body": "platinum pipe cut band with a round brilliant and two side baguettes (sp? do you spell it like the bread???) Neat side note: diamonds flouresce different colors under black light... my sitare (round one, whatever) flouresces completely clear, but the side stones furesce this really freaky alien green!!!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:04)", "body": "ya'll hafta pardon me while I whip it out..."}, {"response": 24, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:05)", "body": "man, I've gotten fast..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:36)", "body": "*laughin* WHAT are you whipping out??!?!?!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:49)", "body": "an alien tracking device (and/or it's description...) WHY?!? What's on your mind this morning?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:55)", "body": "oh. that's EXACTLY what I was thinking... .ok oops."}, {"response": 28, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (12:03)", "body": "good wouldn't want things to get in hand..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (12:03)", "body": "oops should have been, \"wouldn't want things to get out of hand...\""}, {"response": 30, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (12:20)", "body": "\"Freaky alien green\" - q.e.d.!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (12:52)", "body": "and platinum is an excellent electrical conductor..."}, {"response": 32, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:00)", "body": "X-Actly. All further communications MUST continue in Abductions! (You would appreciate this as being extremely witty - even if this annoying explanation is somewhat dumb - but on German tv, the X-Files are called Akte X.)"}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:02)", "body": "the truth is on here"}, {"response": 34, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (13:14)", "body": "No no, it's over there! I MUST insist!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Apr 25, 1999 (22:35)", "body": "Wer can be the smoking man (I'll stand next to you and breathe it in...BTW Stacey, yeah, spelled like the bread)."}, {"response": 36, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (20:25)", "body": "well you just show off that sparkly green baquette type ring of yours! i show my anniversary band off everychance i get (though no spooky green shines through). probably the way the light reflects off the platinum."}, {"response": 37, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (20:27)", "body": "i want to be the character who follows fox mulder everywhere (happily so)"}, {"response": 38, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (01:20)", "body": "wolf is a stalker!!!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (06:49)", "body": "Whazzat behind me?"}, {"response": 40, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (10:30)", "body": "no, i'd want to be welcome by the stalkee *grin* he's such a genius to me......please, i'd not show up in his house like the brad pitt stalker. no, i like to stalk at a distance, we wolves have a wonderful sense of smell, hearing, and sight!! (please don't take that seriously, i'd never stalk anyone!) but boy, that david duchovny. what a hotteeeeeee!!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (13:12)", "body": "s'not the platinum Wolfie... diamonds really do flouresce different colors... put yours under a black light a see what happens! Perhaps it will flouresce D. Duchovny images back at you!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (22:19)", "body": "I haven't seen a black light since I stopped hanging out with potheads!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (16:55)", "body": "well call em up and tell them you wanna go out again this week!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (17:49)", "body": "i've got a blacklight bulb in the cabinet. never thought of putting my ring under there. what if it looks so good i never want to remove it?"}, {"response": 45, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (18:01)", "body": "your ring or the light???"}, {"response": 46, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (18:03)", "body": "on that note: removing rings... I finally found a cleaner that is safe to use with the ring still on my finger.My hands were getting pretty fried from diluted ammonia!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 30, 1999 (00:31)", "body": "should have used it straight..."}, {"response": 48, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 30, 1999 (09:59)", "body": "I tried that many years ago... chemical burn."}, {"response": 49, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 30, 1999 (13:33)", "body": "I knew why I never accepted any rings! That *IS* a serious health hazard!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 30, 1999 (16:07)", "body": "vision loss resulting from extreme glare can also be a hazard... .ok"}, {"response": 51, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 30, 1999 (23:43)", "body": "ok"}, {"response": 52, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 1, 1999 (03:41)", "body": ".exactly"}, {"response": 53, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 1, 1999 (03:52)", "body": "On that glaring of these tracking devices: Wolf, might be your fur or the batteries. Older revisions used these really tiny batteries, like in quartz watches, that were supposed to last a lifetime under normal circumstances. Either you outlived the batt's lifespan, or your circumstances aren't normal. If it's one of the newer makes, they're powered by induction (platinum!) from the electrical field of the wearer's bodies's neuronal activity. With that kuschliges fur you have, might be either the distance between the induction spools (windings?) and the nerves is too great or there's not skin-contact for grounding (!). In my case, it would be obvious: No fur, ergo: Probable cause = Lack of neuronal activities."}, {"response": 54, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, May 1, 1999 (19:54)", "body": "LOL at this whole inane conversation!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, May 1, 1999 (23:33)", "body": "there's a short and sweet review of the Spring for Terry..."}, {"response": 56, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, May 3, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "You can quote me on that!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (12:51)", "body": "1. Browser: Netscape 4.61 and IE 5.0 (when forced), Win 98 going to 2000 this week 2. Java: yes 3. JavaScript: yes 4. 800 x 600 32-bit color (changes) Another machine same except Win 95, older versions of browsers"}, {"response": 58, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "Any alien tracking devices as peripheral?"}, {"response": 59, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 17, 1999 (08:50)", "body": "*laugh* welcome quimby!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 20, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "Netscape 4.0.8 Java-yes Java Script-yes 1024 X 768 High Color 24 bit 15\" monitor Lots of bells and whistles added."}, {"response": 61, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 21, 1999 (09:38)", "body": "Are you a techie? Chances are if you're a CNET Dispatch subscriber, you either are one or you greatly appreciate what they do. And for good reason. Techies are changing the way we work, play, shop, govern, parent, teach and explore. Never before in history has one industry contributed so much to the way we live our lives, or to the health of this country's economy. Employment in core IT occupations has grown six times faster than the overall U.S. job growth rate. However, the number of tech jobs continues to way outstrip the number of techies to fill them. It would not be overstating the problem to say that the shortfall we are witnessing will pose a serious threat to our national well-being over time. Here at CNET, we believe we can help by making technology training a priority in our schools, and by making today's techies the role models for the next generation. So CNET, in alliance with techies.com and other leading, like-minded companies including Compaq, FedEx and Information Week, established National Techies Day. This national event, which will take place on October 5, 1999, is intended not only to recognize the important contributions tech professionals make to all of our lives, but to bring attention to the pressing need for educational programs that interest young people in seeking tech jobs and offer them the specialized training they need to prepare for tech careers. National Techies Day's success is based in large part on an active volunteer effort by the tech community, as well as good old-fashioned word of mouth. Beginning today, at the National Techies Day Web site, http://www.techiesday.org/ you can download a National Techies Day Activity Kit packed with ideas and information about how to involve your company and your community in this event. You can also register to nominate your best techies for the Techie Team of the Year Competition which will be announced on National Techies Day. From organizing a Dorito-fest for your team, to fielding a techie task force in your local schools, I hope you will consider how you can get on board with Techies Day. With your help, we hope that National Techies Day will become the country's largest pat on the back for techies and in turn inspire young people to become the builders of our future. Thank you in advance for helping to make National Techies Day a success. Halsey Minor Chairman and CEO CNET, Inc. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 6, "subject": "we need hosts to be a great community", "response_count": 194, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "mqube", "date": "Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (09:16)", "body": "So what conf's. do you want folks to host; existing ones or new ones we dream up? And how much does it pay? :-)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (16:39)", "body": "Everything here except austen, media and food, which have hosts. Pay depends on the amount of traffic and quality of comments you can bring in. Most of our paying stuff is building websites for folks."}, {"response": 3, "author": "maddog", "date": "Wed, Dec 18, 1996 (20:59)", "body": "ummm, how about parenting or homeschooling? Those are the only things I know much about, except how to play in rock bands for 20+ years without dying or being killed..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 18, 1996 (22:55)", "body": "I could start a parenting conference like we had on the old Spring. It got a good bit of activity before. Would you be interested in hostint a 'parenting' conference?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "maddog", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (14:21)", "body": "sure, but I am not sure exactly what hosting would entail. Can you fill me in a little?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (21:01)", "body": "Being a host would mainly mean checking in and keeping the flow of conversation going. And a super host would go out and find other websites to add links to their conference."}, {"response": 7, "author": "maddog", "date": "Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (13:55)", "body": "ok, I guess I would like to give it a try...."}, {"response": 8, "author": "maddog", "date": "Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (14:08)", "body": "I would be willing to host a parenting conference as you inquired earlier. I will wait for you to set one up, then I will create a homeschool topic within. Is that cool, if not you tell me what you want instead - ok? p.s. thanks for your response to my e-mail - glad it was not my software again that was keeping me out of here because I have had a bad week computer wise and was not ready to re-install everything (phew)"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (22:27)", "body": "OK then, I'll set up 'parenting' this weekend."}, {"response": 10, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Fri, Dec 27, 1996 (11:31)", "body": "The danger of playing in rock bands isn't limited to dying or being killed. I learned this from playing jazz a while. What is more likely is impaired hearing, and going mad. Actually, going mad wouldn't be all that bad-- actually improves performance. But then they lock us up. BTW, how did you arrive at your netname? I suppose you froth at the mouth when you brush your teeth; something harmless like that. But just in case, I'm gonna run my anti-virus (thorough check) on this system just as soon as I sign off."}, {"response": 11, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Fri, Dec 27, 1996 (11:38)", "body": "Precisely how do your hosts \"find other websites to add links to their conference\"? Still not clear on the pay scale. Like when I asked this church what they could pay a tech consultant. In round numbers. Turns out I was right, except that it was just one number. But it was round..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "maddog", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (07:46)", "body": "well, (drymartini), my wife gave me that name long ago when we were kids. We used to drink a cheap wine called MD 20/20 (made by mogen david), but we just called it maddog. The maddog era was a short one, but the name stuck, I guess because I was always a bit of a rebel and a risk-taker, so the \"mad\" part was still appropriate. Yes, you do tend to get a bit deaf and mad in the rock venue, but never locked up so far... ...so, no need to run that virus program on my account. But what about that online name of yours? Are we to assume that you are nursing a drymartini while you defrag your hard drive? And what is your real name, if you don't mind my asking. Oh yes, and I asked earlier, what is your business. I only know that you are a musician(instruction and performance), a woman, and a PA resident. So how about some more dirt on you, come on, spill yer guts lady!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (09:26)", "body": "Current conferences with the number of topics: apps 327 austen 121 yapp 41 sports 30 web 28 deeper 21 media 19 music 16 internet 15 radio 14 books 12 austin 12 food 10 projects 10 cultures 9 porch 8 windows 7 dpo 6 dsm 5 tv 5 movies 5 environment 5 community 5 poetry 5 travel 5 fitness 4 politics 4 politics 4 sex 4 newtest 3 computer 2 techbusiness 2 restaurants 1 austentest 1 lovelinks 0 art 0 parent 0"}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (00:47)", "body": "Hey, terry, can you make me a host in the restaurant conference, also, or would that be a conflict of interest? WER"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (09:05)", "body": "No, that would be very cool. Consider it done."}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (11:57)", "body": "Okay. And if you ever need help typing in kid's books, let me know and I can e-mail you the chapters I've got done. WER"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (12:00)", "body": "Sure, email 'em or post 'em on your website. I'll be you set up as host today sometime in restaurants. What I need mostly is for folks to make realaudio recordings or casette recordings that I can convert to realaudio."}, {"response": 18, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (00:21)", "body": "Could probably arrange that also. Guys or gals, and what stories? WER"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (09:05)", "body": "Either or both. I'll have to do an inventory of what stories need sounds."}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (23:29)", "body": ".......... Ok, just keep me posted. WER"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (08:44)", "body": "Definitely, will do. How did the AOL configuration go?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 9, 1998 (10:13)", "body": "Yeah, where do I need to set you up as host. By the way, today or tomorrow we'll probably stop being spring.com and the spring.net era begins fully. I've been tweaking the dns tables today."}, {"response": 26, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (13:13)", "body": "i would be interested in hosting the science and philosophg\u007f\ufffd3~ philosophy confs, either or both would be fine!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (13:14)", "body": "Then both it is! I'll set you up as host in science and philosophy, or co host in philosophy with americ azevido."}, {"response": 29, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (13:55)", "body": "wow! thanks terry."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (20:09)", "body": "OK wer in genx and news. Here goes."}, {"response": 31, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (15:39)", "body": "Uh oh Ray! You're headed into the fray now!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (01:33)", "body": "I guess, when you turn on my hostly powers in genx and news, you probably ought to do so in sex, also..."}, {"response": 33, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (15:31)", "body": "guess who likes to be on top?!?!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (15:57)", "body": "or, maybe you should make Stacey hostess/mistress/dominatrix of the sex conf... don't feel like guessing today, so just tell me, who?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (18:24)", "body": "hey grumpy man... sounds like maybe today you should just lie there then! (whatsa matter you, hey?!?!)"}, {"response": 36, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (18:29)", "body": "huh?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (18:33)", "body": "lookit us!! online simeltaneously... hmm... we could bring new meaning to 'simeltaneous orgasm' or mutual masturbation! Actually, now that I think about it, we are far to late in the cyber game to have discovered either of those! Howya been? and how do we talk real time?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (18:37)", "body": "in re your last two questions: same old, same old...call, move or visit would be my guess, are you on at school or home?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (18:39)", "body": "at home on the 'slower than molasass in the wintertime' Earthlink connection. (I hate Netscape!)"}, {"response": 40, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (18:44)", "body": "you can try http://venus.beseen.com/chat/rooms/f/3580/ if you want...it's my chat room"}, {"response": 41, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 2, 1998 (21:26)", "body": "ok, wer asked me if i wanted to host poetry. i said i was willing. is a hostess needed? (shall i make appetizers?)"}, {"response": 42, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (01:22)", "body": "That's great - you'll make a great host! What will the appetizers consist of?"}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (08:12)", "body": "You'll get added as a poetry host, wolfie!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (10:42)", "body": "cool beans! (please send instructions, isn't there, like, a manual on hosting?) riette: strawberries and champagne, oh, and cherries, and, of course, some raw meat....."}, {"response": 45, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (14:11)", "body": "first off, Wolf: you will need a new login name of wolf because Terry didn't capitolize Wolf in the host list, or get him to go change that"}, {"response": 46, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (14:25)", "body": "as to the manual, it's at http://www.armidalesoftware.com/docs/intro.html"}, {"response": 47, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (14:50)", "body": "Terry? should be Wolf, dearie *thanks*"}, {"response": 48, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (14:54)", "body": "ok, how come i'm not seeing it?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (15:00)", "body": "wer, i went to the site and learned that i probably don't know what the heck i'm doing. what do i need to begin?"}, {"response": 50, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (15:10)", "body": "the right login name... for example...in three confs I'm a host as wer, in two others as KitchenManager, so I set-up a new login as wer and only have the confs I'ma host in on my hot list under that name...if you want to go that route, and only login as wolf when you want to exercise your hostly powers, the next time you're on, instead of logging in, go to http://www.spring.net/ and join as wolf, you can even use the same password"}, {"response": 51, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (18:10)", "body": "Can't you hold up something she'll understand better? Like http://www.sheep.drumstick/ Stupid joke, sit."}, {"response": 52, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (21:25)", "body": "HELP!!! (thanks for the thought, riette).... where in the heck do i start? read the stuff at the website wer gave me (again) but it doesn't help with where i add code to change anything? plus, i'm logged in as usual but there's no kill switch or whatever (the thing i read about) and as far as it's concerned, i'm really not the host....can anyone elaborate for me please?!?!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:11)", "body": "at the moment you have to be logged in as wolf not Wolf..."}, {"response": 54, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:17)", "body": "oh, silly me :)"}, {"response": 55, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:19)", "body": "de nada..."}, {"response": 56, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:20)", "body": "you read my latest mail right? am i, like, screwed up or what?"}, {"response": 57, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:40)", "body": "to which o' my addresses? nothing comes to mind as being out of the ordinary..."}, {"response": 58, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:42)", "body": "aol.....nothin' urgent, just reiterated a fav topic (wonderin' if you had seen it or were ignoring me!)"}, {"response": 59, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:48)", "body": "frown? not ignoring you, just not sure how to respond, I guess... what do you think, shouldn't Riette be host of the art conference?"}, {"response": 60, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:51)", "body": "never been there, but if she were host, yes, definately would go, maybe riette could display some of her work? (that would be a yes) (just be honest-email me) gotta go, way way past this wolf's bedtime, g'night and hopefully no nightmares!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:59)", "body": "or, *gulp* nightstallions!"}, {"response": 62, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:11)", "body": "I never do anything unless somebody asks me so - I'm far too modest, as you all know."}, {"response": 63, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:15)", "body": "and shy and evasive and meek and demure and..."}, {"response": 64, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:18)", "body": "innocent"}, {"response": 65, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:19)", "body": "oh, yeah, I almost forgot..."}, {"response": 66, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:25)", "body": "Just like you really."}, {"response": 67, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:27)", "body": "Really?"}, {"response": 68, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:29)", "body": "About as really as teeth on a chicken!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (09:56)", "body": "you all will be glad to know i did not suffer from any nightmares or stallions! riette, won't you be our art host? pleeeeeeeze???"}, {"response": 70, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (10:17)", "body": "I'd luuuuuuuuuv to, Wolfie, but I can't figure it out. Have you managed to get yourself registered as host of poetry yet??"}, {"response": 71, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (13:02)", "body": "yes, but haven't been able to do anything with it. buuuutttt, with a little help from my friends, i think i'll be ok. you can do it, riette!!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (13:04)", "body": "Thanks, Wolf, I'll try anyway."}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (05:56)", "body": "Riette has been set up with hostly powers in 'art'."}, {"response": 74, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (13:08)", "body": "Thank you, Terry. Will you remain co-host? I'll do all the work if you can put it onto screen for me, or teach me how to do it. Deal?"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (09:50)", "body": "Sure, deal."}, {"response": 76, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (12:36)", "body": "Great!! How's your roomie?"}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (12:57)", "body": "She's fine. I got 5 new room mates at the new place. Pays the bills! And they're all fine folks."}, {"response": 78, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (16:25)", "body": "That sounds like alot of fun. So you take turns doing the cooking, and cleaning and all that?"}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (19:30)", "body": "Yeah, the group here is really fun. Everyone gets along and the place stays real clean. Beth just cruised in from Houston. There's a couple, Mark and Mercedes (she's from Honduras), Kristen is the most organized so far. And Bill is a pretty cool guy, kind of shy. Kristen's friend Jaylin is coming by to stay a couple of days, she's a 27 year old skydiver. And my son, Shey, just stayed for 10 days. Got to do a lot of swimming and baseball watching, movie going, basketball playing, etc. It's really a fun place, the pool has been a real great thing to have with this hot summer. It's a big house with lots of rooms, just like my place in Cedar Creek, so it makes life comfortable for a group of folks like this."}, {"response": 80, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 7, 1998 (01:35)", "body": "WOW, the good life! We got our flat long before we even planned marriage. It was rather nice and big back then. Then I had a baby, and it became a little smaller, but hey, it was okay. Then I had another baby, and it became more of a little smaller - sigh. Now we have the little guinea pigs on top of that, and it's just bloody small!"}, {"response": 81, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (06:11)", "body": "I still don't really know what to do as a host, besides posting stuff and creating new topics (which everybody else does, too, and I did before I was made a host). We need to educate hosts to be a great community."}, {"response": 82, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (11:37)", "body": "But to educate hosts, we need to have someone who knows what they are doing..."}, {"response": 83, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (11:55)", "body": "ahh... looks like another topic to me."}, {"response": 84, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (11:59)", "body": "well, Miss Multi-conference Hostess witha da Mostest (and teaching experience to boot) why not go start one, hon?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:03)", "body": "I second the motion."}, {"response": 86, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:07)", "body": "and if you feel like giving me..."}, {"response": 87, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "...another, say, five bucks, we'll forget about the whole thing? NO WAY! I want to know, AND I want a host-kit, like all the other boyscout groups got!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (09:49)", "body": "And I never got it. Anyways, food for thought for you folks. Comments much appreciated: Amateurs Lead Web Community-Building ( 5/13/99; 12:00 PM EST) By Mo Krochmal, TechWeb NEW YORK -- Howard Rheingold, who pinpointed virtual communities long before they became a gold mine for Internet business, said the best communities are being built by amateurs -- not businesses. Rheingold, who, in 1993, wrote The Virtual Community: Homesteading at Electronic Frontier, said Thursday at the new-media conference here in New York, Edgewise 99, the Web is operating on false assumptions about community. There are three \"Cs\" for success in the Internet business -- content, commerce, and community, Rheingold said. Companies such as GeoCities and Tripod have been built on providing a place for people of like minds to gather online around a business plan based on giving away websites. \"Offering free Web pages is not community,\" he said. But, clearly, it is profitable. In January, portal site Yahoo acquired GeoCities for stock worth $4 billion. GeoCities provides free home pages to more than 3 million members and makes revenue by posting advertising on member sites. It's a business plan many others are emulating. That is the wrong approach, said Rheingold. The projections about this type of online business are off by several orders of magnitude, he said. Building a community is a cost of doing business, not a source of profit, he said. And, online businesses that want to build communities between their customers, their suppliers, and others should be prepared to listen and act, he said. \"You have to ask if you are prepared to reorganize your people and your resources in response to what people tell you [online],\" Rheingold said. \"If you don't respond, they will go away, and then you are turning away somebody who was a customer and wanted to participate in your business.\" Rheingold said high-quality communication, a registration process, and trust are keys to online community, as well as a technology that engenders a free flow of conversation, not just a bulletin board. Sometimes, community building has unintended repercussions, said Rheingold, citing America Online and its battle with the 10,000 volunteers who moderate its chat rooms and help newcomers. Several volunteers have filed complaints against AOL with the U.S. Department of Labor, saying they should be receiving pay and benefits. \"If they had just sent them a lousy T-shirt, they could still use them as slave labor,\" said Rheingold. \"Now they have [angered] them, and they have a problem.\" You have to pay people who know how to make a lively environment, he said, and then you encourage a community to police itself. There is a future for including community in an enterprise, he said. \"But it is not about 10 times return on an investment in three years,\" he said. \"It will take a while to grow.\" The online communities that are growing around people who share similar experiences such as AIDS or caring for a relative with Alzheimer's disease are building communities on a online bulletin board or a newgroup, he said. \"For those people, it's a lifeline, and it's a serious business,\" he said. \"But it's amateurs -- and will continue that way.\" \ufffd 1998 CMP Media, Inc."}, {"response": 89, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:15)", "body": "hmm...interesting..."}, {"response": 90, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (14:38)", "body": "amateur...that would be me, yep..."}, {"response": 91, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 10, 1999 (19:24)", "body": "and welcome Marcia as the hostess of the new geology, etcetera, conf... http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/Geo/all"}, {"response": 92, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (09:46)", "body": "Can we do kind of hosts roll call? Would the hosts here mind telling everyone what conference(s) they host and what's going on there?"}, {"response": 93, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (13:26)", "body": "i host science, which is a moribund conference, and philosophy, which is showing signs of life."}, {"response": 94, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (14:38)", "body": "I host MUSIC, which occasionally is lively lately, InternationalConflicts, which is kinda, hmh, laying around, waiting for worse to get better (traffic-wise, strictly traffic-wise) and ViridianCuria, which was created too late to meet the window of opportunity I saw for it... I'll try revive this later this fall. Meanwhile, I still haven't seen some useful infos on how to rig still so it looks cool (like GEO or FOOD). Admitted, I don't have a lot of time, at least I post regularly. I started a bunch of topics in CULTURES, which occasionally are lively, too (like the VIOLENCE CULTURE topic, among others)."}, {"response": 95, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (14:40)", "body": "As to missing knowhow, I've given up in April trying to find out how to post pics. Running after folks asking everybody and getting no satisfying reply after weeks got me to abandon that."}, {"response": 96, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (22:34)", "body": "You use an img src tag which is a left angle bracket, then the words img src then the equals sign the a quote then the url of the image (which you get by right mouse clicking on it and getting properties) then another quote and then a closing angle bracket. That's how in words. But do a web search for img src and find a good website tutorial on it. ![\"[Test](\")
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clears the flow of text to fall after the image. This is rendered: Here is some text related to the test image. It is not very interesting, but should show how the text is wrapped around the image given the ALIGN=left alignment attribute. ALIGN=\"right\" I hope the above works!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (23:01)", "body": "I host Geo which has lots of important brains lurking but none posting. There are the faithful who come to check what I have been doing and what is the state of our planet. I cover topics as diverse as jewels (both organic and inorganic), bioregions, storms and weather (very popular right now with the hurricanes menacing the East Coast), and my all time favorite, Vulcanism which deals with volcanoes world-wide as well as my home ones, Mauna Loa and Kilauea. We also have topics on rock hounding and diagnostics so you can tell what you found out there on the ground. More stuff than that, though...come see! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/"}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (08:46)", "body": "Is there an unhosted conference that anyone wants to host. I hope Ree tells us about her conferences. wer is on sabbatical from food and restaurants, but they're still very happening places."}, {"response": 99, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "Thank you, Terry, and excuse me, everybody, for having been grouchy lately! Too much bovine activity here, lately, and sometimes, it's just too much bull to handle. (Especially if I'm confronted with bulls I can't personally tackle...) Terry, does this mean, the pics have to be on a webserver somewhere before creating a link? Do they have to be embedded in a webpage, whose address I give then? Is there a default directory everybody puts the pics files to?"}, {"response": 100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (15:32)", "body": "Alexander, I have hard disk space at Spring if you want to send me pics. I will send you the URL of them and you can post them. They do have to be on a webserver before you can post them."}, {"response": 101, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (15:39)", "body": "I got a user directory there, too. Thanks anyhow! Is there a convention for a shared directory to put stuff in?"}, {"response": 102, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (16:23)", "body": "It needs to be in the public directory of your space in order to be seen by the web. I do not know of any shared directory. My graphics are on my little space assigned to me when I became host of Geo."}, {"response": 103, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (10:54)", "body": "If you need a shared directory here, I'll give you an account on access. Otherwise you can refernce graphics from any place on the web in your tags. Just use the img src tagv which I explained the other day."}, {"response": 104, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (13:22)", "body": "OK + thanks! I got a directory there, somewhere..."}, {"response": 105, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:18)", "body": "Does anyone think wer will care if I start hosting food and restaurants?"}, {"response": 106, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:26)", "body": "I think he would welcome the help! Sorry I forgot about Alexander's being host of ViricianCuria..."}, {"response": 107, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:28)", "body": "Then, perhaps I could get some help in Geo???"}, {"response": 108, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:29)", "body": "Then, cfadm, if you will work your magic."}, {"response": 109, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:31)", "body": "How about if I promise to post info in Geo as I find it?"}, {"response": 110, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:32)", "body": "Excellent! Thanks ...*happy smile*"}, {"response": 111, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:41)", "body": "*poof* You're a host now, infospryte."}, {"response": 112, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:46)", "body": "(*eyes wide with amazement*...that's how it's done?!)"}, {"response": 113, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:15)", "body": "Yep, but works only when ole Conf Admin wears that pointy hat."}, {"response": 114, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:17)", "body": "If he doesn't, he'll wave that magic wand and *poof*, you're a fluffy bunny."}, {"response": 115, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:19)", "body": "(checking...nope! Not yet!)"}, {"response": 116, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:21)", "body": "Cfadm is especially fetching in that pointy hat...wonder from whence it came...or does it come with the job description? Probably!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:38)", "body": "If he doesn't, he'll wave that magic wand and *poof*, you're a fluffy bunny."}, {"response": 118, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:39)", "body": "Which, of course, was quite an improvement for me here!"}, {"response": 119, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (14:57)", "body": "Really? I never pictured you as a fluffy bunny. March Hare, on occasion, as we all are, but not bunny (except inside where your heart is!)"}, {"response": 120, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (15:15)", "body": "=:=}"}, {"response": 121, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (16:09)", "body": "*lol* cute!"}, {"response": 122, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (02:06)", "body": "GREAT that you're the new kitchen man around here, Infospryte!! Alexander, you've got a fluffy bunny in your heart? How'd it get there??? Didya swallow it?"}, {"response": 123, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (14:18)", "body": "Oh, you never noticed, huh? I *AM* a fluffy bunny with long, furry ears!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (23:01)", "body": "Oooh...How adorable. Do you like to be petted or do you bite? This host would like to link Geo 27 to ParaSpring. Please! If I am to do it, will need to email me to remind me the link command. Thanks. Oh, and I will need a telnet account."}, {"response": 125, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (07:16)", "body": "OK will do!"}, {"response": 126, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (13:26)", "body": "Oh, Thanks you SO very much. You have just made two ladies very happy *hugs* *smile* *sigh*"}, {"response": 127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (13:32)", "body": "I just checked and we are linked. Thanks is not engough, but it must suffice. We are most grateful...and then some...!"}, {"response": 128, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (23:23)", "body": "That (Geomagnetics) has turned out to be a very active topic. It is about as close to the fringe as I get in Geo, but it is fascinating. Anyone care to join me?"}, {"response": 129, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (23:28)", "body": "New shuttle pictures of Hawaii finally downloaded. Check Cartography."}, {"response": 130, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (09:35)", "body": "What's geomagnetics?"}, {"response": 131, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (14:41)", "body": "Invisible magnetic lines on the earth (I should post the NASA shot of that) which direct everything from a compass when you hike to birds when they migrate. I needed a title which went with the rest in the conference so I used geomagnetics. Dowsers use it to discover water...sacred geometry and Feng Shui use it, as well. Pop in and take a look! The Archaeology is going great too - and I have a really great gal pal from Boston logged in and posting. She's the one who works for Lucent Technologies... Geo is a happening place. Y'all come!"}, {"response": 132, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (19:58)", "body": "Guess no one did. I will make the request for a CRAFTS conference with Wolf and me as hosts, please?! And, Please link Collecting 59 to the Sports conference. I hate the feeling that no one is here running the joint but those of us creeping around with limited access and even more limited knowledge. Makes me feel insecure...*sigh*"}, {"response": 133, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (20:04)", "body": "Looks like I explained Terry's question on Geomagentism everywhere but where he asked the question. I guess I should not post it again lest I clog the arteries of the limited bandwidth and have Terry out on the Freeway begging for more..."}, {"response": 134, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (05:38)", "body": "Yep, I've been pretty busy on the homefront. I tried calling you on http://www.dialpad.com last night but your phone just rang and rang. This is one cool program, if I could get it to work we could all communicate with each other by phone."}, {"response": 135, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (10:57)", "body": "Terry...I know you (or someone called and called and called some more but our readout said \"unknown Number\" so I figured it was someone from the Mainland. But, after persistent saying \"hello\" all I could hear was empty air on an open circuit. If that happens again I will shout louder and hope I can hear you! I am delighted that you got through to me but sad that I thought you were just some weirdo getting jollies listening to my voice. Now I know differently..."}, {"response": 136, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (12:48)", "body": "OK...I have signed up and logged into Dialpad. Do you need to know my user name and can I use the same phone line while I am connected to the internet on it? If so, I have to give you another number. Will post them in Inner conference."}, {"response": 137, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 22, 2000 (12:48)", "body": ""}, {"response": 138, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (04:44)", "body": "For some reason, my calls are connecting but I'm not hearing anyone at the other end. I'll try it on a different computer tomorrow."}, {"response": 139, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (11:45)", "body": "Terry, we need to coordinate what time you call. Last evening we were out for dinner and when we got back around 8pm you had called manytimes (We leave the answering machine on when we are away.) By the time it occurred to me it might be you calling, I sat in the office waiting from 8:30-9:30pm (that is12:30-1:20AM your time) but it was just after your last attempt, I am afraid. I will be here all day as far as I know. Just remember we are 4 hours behind you. As I post this it is 7:45am Hawaiian Standard time. Also, calling me after about 10PM your time is gonna cause trouble here until we get this figured out."}, {"response": 140, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:04)", "body": "Terry! I can hear you loud and clear!!!"}, {"response": 141, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:06)", "body": "Still hearing you like you were next door...on the phone, of course!"}, {"response": 142, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:07)", "body": "But I can't hear you! I'll try again."}, {"response": 143, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:08)", "body": "You are so loud that I am holding the phone away from my ear and I have a strong voice so you should have heard me."}, {"response": 144, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:08)", "body": "Wonder what is wrong..."}, {"response": 145, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:12)", "body": "Gotta get rid of the proxy server somehow"}, {"response": 146, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:12)", "body": "Wenphone will not work with one, either..."}, {"response": 147, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:14)", "body": "That's webphone, of course...! You are so clear and right in the room with your end. It is frustrating that I am not also in your room at that end."}, {"response": 148, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:14)", "body": "Hmm, I'm not really using a proxy server, I'm using Microsoft ICS. I wonder if there's a trick to get it to work? I'll try again with another computer."}, {"response": 149, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:15)", "body": "Try calling me with dialpad and see if it works that way."}, {"response": 150, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:16)", "body": "Ok going to boot it and test it out - what number are you using today?"}, {"response": 151, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:18)", "body": "That was just a big metallic howl you sent....No voice."}, {"response": 152, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:24)", "body": "Terry...Use me as a test....I wish it would work as much as you do!!!! I can still hear you tantalizingly clearly and wish you could do the same with me...*sigh*"}, {"response": 153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:25)", "body": "You arwe NOT bothering me with all of these phone calls. It would be so great if we could get it to work!!! I need to know the number to call you to try from this end...."}, {"response": 154, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:34)", "body": "I'm think I've fixed it. Here goes again."}, {"response": 155, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:37)", "body": "I tried calling you using 512 302 4000 and it rang but was not answered. Are you there or at another number? I am still hearing you very well!"}, {"response": 156, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:39)", "body": "Keep trying - I REALLY want you to hear me on this end!!!"}, {"response": 157, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:41)", "body": "I'm getting warmer, I downloaded an ICS configuration utility and this may make it work."}, {"response": 158, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 23, 2000 (15:42)", "body": "Does Dialup have a tech staff to help figure out why I can hear you but you cannot hear me???"}, {"response": 159, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (00:18)", "body": "Nope but I figured it out, as you know. They have a great faq and I found out I needed a little third party ICS configuration tool to make it work. Now, to figure out how to cool down the echo . . ."}, {"response": 160, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (10:57)", "body": "What they call Satellite echo over here is a little distracting and almost as loud as you were. Let me know how you did it when you find out. Still, it was so exciting to talk to someone live and in Texas. I was flying all day after we succeeded in making the-way contact. YeeHAW! (I learned that from the mean TCU fans last weekend!)"}, {"response": 161, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (13:34)", "body": "Did someone with dialup call me at 5:45 am today? House male is most upset. I think it was someone else because our caller ID just said Unknown Name Unknown Number...whereas before at least I got the number so I could tell it was from Texas... We are 4 hours EARLIER than Texas! When the call was made here at 5:45AM it was 9:54AM in Austin."}, {"response": 162, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (20:48)", "body": "in case no one saw one of my posts awhile back, i'd like to be master gardener in our garden conference. thanks!"}, {"response": 163, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 30, 2000 (20:49)", "body": "oh yeah, and marcia and i would love to host a crafts conference."}, {"response": 164, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 1, 2000 (00:42)", "body": "and please add me to the hostly list on History"}, {"response": 165, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (21:47)", "body": "This host needs major help. When spring crashed it took my rc file with it. I, with Wolf's help, put the rc file back on and the Visto banner is ok, but my buttons do not show up but my amazon.com does not and I have all default stuff (which is fine but not right ...)"}, {"response": 166, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (21:52)", "body": "and why is my wallpaper yellow??? *sigh* This mess is in GEO, btw, for those who do not go there...."}, {"response": 167, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (22:04)", "body": "okay...promise not to touch it in case you are working on it...but I did get the hr bars back. Thanks!"}, {"response": 168, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 2, 2000 (23:51)", "body": "Thank you humbly and profoundly for helping me. I worked and worked for 4 solid hours on it and the rc file is complete and functioning. No inhouse applause, of course, but that is they way it always is. I have copied it to file so I shall not have to do this again the hard way...and if I had not had such a splendid and patient teacher in the first place, I would never have been able to do it. *deep bow* in recognition of his wisdom, and *Hugs* of appreciation."}, {"response": 169, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (03:58)", "body": "The Spring didn't crash, thre's one file called /tmp that occasionally fills up and it doesn't allow anything to be written to the disk. And I forgot to bring my cell phone in from the car last night, so your calls were ringing in an empty van. I apologize for not responding sooner. As soon as I got your message about 10:45 pm last night I knew it was that /tmp file."}, {"response": 170, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (11:52)", "body": "If anyone can figure out how freezing the spring deleted my entire rc file, I would certainly appreciate knowing so I can prevent it happening again. Again, thank you to the magician who restored my conference to its glory!"}, {"response": 171, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (12:16)", "body": "(At the time it happened, I was just changing hex numbers for font color and was not changing anything in the structure of the commands. Could hitting the \"change this file\" at the moment of Spring's freeze-up have been the cause? Whatever it was, I now keep a copy printed out and on file so I can copy and paste it back to order as quickly as Spring unfreezes, shold it happen again! Any suggestions would be most appreciated!"}, {"response": 172, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (14:47)", "body": "Oooh! Check it out! Geo's new wallpaper is installed (I hope cfadm likes it too - more of a ballroom floor and less of a pastry board - and the infernal frames are all gone from my buttons. Now, whatever shall I do with myself?! Actually, I'd like a nice indigo or deep royal purple to by my xlink but I don't seem able to find one. Still looking! Let me know what you think of Geo now, if you please...!"}, {"response": 173, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (15:00)", "body": "Great, looks like a rocky wall on my very poor monitor that I'm using now."}, {"response": 174, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (16:08)", "body": "It used to be more drab...now it is a classier and more colorful marble - like an Impressionist's sunset sky."}, {"response": 175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 3, 2000 (16:11)", "body": "Thank you for checking...Now, if only the Resident Genius who put the other one on likes it, as well..."}, {"response": 176, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (12:27)", "body": "And hey... Resident Genius to whom I'm sure Miss M speaks... I'll be in town for a week... May 15-19... promise stop by to say howdy if you'll be around... lemme know"}, {"response": 177, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May 10, 2000 (12:30)", "body": "* s i g h *"}, {"response": 178, "author": "Phoenix", "date": "Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (16:46)", "body": "test"}, {"response": 179, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (19:23)", "body": "yes!"}, {"response": 180, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (17:20)", "body": "Hmmm...what do you all think? Should I host a conf again?"}, {"response": 181, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (18:32)", "body": "YES!!!"}, {"response": 182, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (22:33)", "body": "Sure!"}, {"response": 183, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Sat, Oct 8, 2005 (17:58)", "body": "Well, then, add WERoland to the host list for food, and I'll have a go at it again, I suppose."}, {"response": 184, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 8, 2005 (19:47)", "body": "Please do. I kept talking to myself in there. We'll help by asking impossible questions. Wolfie and Terry will be there too. Spring just isn't the same without you !!"}, {"response": 185, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 8, 2005 (21:02)", "body": "yaaaaay!!!"}, {"response": 186, "author": "dot", "date": "Fri, Oct 14, 2005 (07:57)", "body": ""}, {"response": 187, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 14, 2005 (08:04)", "body": "wer 'o land, how has it been going as host of food? Are you able to change settings and get around ok? Since you were last here, we reinstalled on a new machine and we are going to be doing that again this year. Going to a new, more powerful machine. Arriving today is the hardware to build 2 FreeBSD/Linux machine and 2 Windows 2003 machines. I know, it bites to run a Windows Server, but I gotta do some prjects that require it."}, {"response": 188, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Fri, Oct 14, 2005 (18:52)", "body": "so far, so good"}, {"response": 189, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 14, 2005 (22:00)", "body": "See the pizza secrets in food. Hardware is here."}, {"response": 190, "author": "weroland", "date": "Sun, Apr 9, 2006 (13:22)", "body": "Need a little help, as I broke the rc file for the cooking conference... Can it be deleted by someone with access, please? That should fix the problem. Thanks!"}, {"response": 191, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 9, 2006 (14:55)", "body": "I know I am not on that list but I'll see if going in thru Geo's rc file will help me access it. Delete rc file... attempting to do so"}, {"response": 192, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 9, 2006 (14:56)", "body": "Negative... I got an internal error page. Sorry!"}, {"response": 193, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 9, 2006 (21:07)", "body": "I'll see what I can do."}, {"response": 194, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 13, 2006 (16:54)", "body": "yeah, i got that error page too *frown*"}, {"response": 195, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 13, 2006 (21:24)", "body": "It's still broken. Terry is all you have to do is clear the rc box? it should be easy enough (she said after being rescued enough time from her own mistakes)"}, {"response": 196, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Fri, Apr 14, 2006 (16:01)", "body": "Just go in, by like say ftp, and delete the entire rc file for the conference."}, {"response": 197, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 19, 2006 (07:22)", "body": "ok doing it now. ok I cleared the rc file out, wiped it clean, and created a backup called rc.bak. Clever, eh?"}, {"response": 198, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2006 (17:01)", "body": "so can we get into the conference yet? porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 60, "subject": "review the Spring for Alexa", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, May 1, 1999 (05:25)", "body": "Ever lived in Austin, Texas? Ever wanted to? Do you now? Then this is the site for you! Get that full Austin flavor over the Internet by logging in and joining any of the discussion groups. In fact, for a quick taste, drop by: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/porch/all What do you want to talk about today?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 11, 1999 (16:26)", "body": "Very Good!!! That could be a poster for around town."}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, May 12, 1999 (14:22)", "body": "*****"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (08:50)", "body": "wait! who's alexa?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (11:44)", "body": "it's a site...and an add-on..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (14:20)", "body": "ok, i'll check them out! porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 61, "subject": "deadest conference on the Spring and why", "response_count": 20, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (10:42)", "body": "Here's a list of conferneces to help you in your choice. [118/118] Respond, forget, or pass? Ok: list items sec time conference 51 72 Tue Mar 11 20:46:10 1997 yapp 45 256F Mon Mar 8 07:54:22 1999 sports 383 24F Thu May 13 17:00:02 1999 apps 14 16F Mon Apr 19 18:53:14 1999 fitness 66 16F Fri May 14 07:26:14 1999 music 7 0F Sat Sep 26 14:30:04 1998 dpo 25 0F Wed May 12 10:03:50 1999 cultures 8 16F Tue Nov 24 09:16:59 1998 dsm 61 0F Wed May 12 11:17:15 1999 web 4 0 Thu Nov 26 03:39:34 1998 newtest 38 0F Thu May 13 22:37:29 1999 media 38 16F Thu May 6 12:27:03 1999 internet 32 0F Thu May 13 23:08:03 1999 tv 38 0F Thu May 13 22:42:46 1999 movies 18 16F Mon Apr 19 14:46:26 1999 politics 20 16F Thu Apr 1 15:58:02 1999 books 18 16F Mon Apr 19 14:46:26 1999 politics 10 0F Thu Apr 29 02:42:17 1999 environment 39 0F Fri May 14 10:34:13 1999 food 37 0F Tue May 11 15:25:57 1999 austin 7 0F Sat Apr 24 07:32:24 1999 community 21 0F Tue Apr 20 22:04:06 1999 sex 28 0F Wed May 12 14:16:25 1999 radio 35 0F Sat Apr 3 00:55:16 1999 poetry 74 0F Tue May 11 10:45:46 1999 restaurants 40 0F Mon Apr 19 15:09:46 1999 projects 58 0F Fri May 14 06:51:51 1999 porch 32 0F Tue May 11 13:21:02 1999 travel 14 0F Sun May 2 12:32:49 1999 computer 22 0F Wed Jan 13 18:27:26 1999 windows 8 0F Thu Mar 4 07:22:39 1999 techbusiness 38 0F Thu Apr 22 00:41:09 1999 art 28 0F Sun Mar 2 23:49:20 1997 deeper 0 0 Sun Dec 27 20:04:51 1998 austentest 8 0F Wed Feb 24 03:47:14 1999 parent 25 0F Mon Apr 19 14:54:43 1999 home 20 0F Wed Feb 24 03:44:38 1999 capcity 13 0F Sat Apr 17 15:01:00 1999 homepage 213 16F Wed Feb 24 03:44:21 1999 austenarchive 11 0 Sun Jul 12 20:39:22 1998 middlemarch > 96 0F Fri May 14 10:38:29 1999 drool 18 0F Mon Apr 19 15:40:01 1999 unix 1 0 Thu Apr 9 17:05:52 1998 hoa 6 0 Tue Mar 31 11:33:23 1998 hammer 8 0F Wed Feb 24 03:46:04 1999 education 1 0F Tue May 27 20:16:56 1997 nh 30 0F Wed Feb 24 03:44:41 1999 cars 13 0F Mon Apr 19 15:11:52 1999 minds 61 0F Sun Feb 28 16:35:20 1999 bronte 10 0F Wed Feb 24 03:46:54 1999 medieval 19 256F Sun May 9 22:47:31 1999 vc 45 0F Thu Apr 22 11:12:31 1999 spirit 0 0 Sun Jul 12 10:23:19 1998 farrawae 38 0 Mon Nov 23 03:13:12 1998 motorcycle 9 0F Thu May 13 17:15:22 1999 garden 9 0F Mon Mar 8 14:04:20 1999 health 28 0F Mon Apr 19 14:53:14 1999 science 34 0F Tue Apr 27 22:14:21 1999 philosophy 40 0F Wed May 12 04:21:12 1999 babes 0 0F Wed Dec 31 18:00:01 1969 song 43 0F Fri Jan 15 09:55:52 1999 cfp 10 0F Tue May 11 16:08:38 1999 farm 28 0F Tue May 11 16:28:39 1999 news 28 0F Sat May 8 05:18:31 1999 genx 4 0F Mon Apr 19 14:38:45 1999 justice 2 0F Wed Aug 19 10:59:11 1998 peacemaker 0 0F Tue Sep 15 07:56:12 1998 modjane 151 0F Fri May 14 06:35:42 1999 screwed 1 0F Sun Sep 6 17:53:45 1998 eff 30 4F Thu May 13 22:36:47 1999 inner 2 0F Thu May 13 18:13:46 1999 business 5 0F Fri May 14 06:07:32 1999 software 30 0F Thu May 13 20:33:32 1999 collecting 4 0F Tue May 11 20:19:48 1999 seniorcomp 11 0F Sun May 2 14:02:48 1999 paraspring 23 0F Fri May 14 10:38:40 1999 today 8 0F Wed May 12 09:24:09 1999 InternationalConflicts Let's start with peacemaker . . ."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (10:46)", "body": "sure, why not? it's a restricted conference..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (13:12)", "body": "Yep, it is. yapp has been pretty quiet, any chance of resusitation, wer? Have you looked into getting us linked back in to the other yapp systems?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (13:21)", "body": "nope...not with the turmoil in my life recently...does sound like a good project for the weekend, though..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (16:23)", "body": "Go, Wer! Go Go Go! (waving my pompoms)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (18:20)", "body": "Wow, modjane and song are big losers. They go in the conference Hall of Shame."}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (18:42)", "body": "oh please don't move poetry in there. writer's are such moody artists, we have to wait for our muses to come back (and they're so flighty) *grin*"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (19:12)", "body": "OK poetry gets a reprieve from the Conference Hall o' Shame, not yet ready for the conference graveyard."}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (19:33)", "body": "modjane was emptied out for it to be deleted... song never got started...hinted around about it to Alexander, though..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, May 15, 1999 (07:56)", "body": "...songs need typing. Typing needs time + the texts, both of which I do not have in great supply right now (btw, hinting at me ought to be more suggestive, like with a wad of cash, a stick to my head, or the same)."}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, May 15, 1999 (08:26)", "body": "don't you need permission to reprint lyrics? i mean, especially for a public place like this?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (09:47)", "body": "I think yapp is the deadest conference, mostly because it doesn't work. William was working on this but then he's on hiatus."}, {"response": 13, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (12:47)", "body": "But, isn't September a bit early for that? Late November to March, I always though... Must be that Texas thang: everything three sizes bigger!"}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (22:49)", "body": "You know, I have it on my list to enter when I am telnetting, but there is nothing to r n about so I pass it. I should go in via Windows and see what is there. I have no idea, and I am supposed to be learning about it and telnetting and vi to help someone upon his return from that foreign country...where did you say it was, Hiatus? Sounds Greek!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (08:47)", "body": "If you're in telnet you can type a 'b' at the ok: prompt to see the list of topics. Or you can type read since -365 to read the last years comments."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (15:01)", "body": "Thanks for that...shall check today when I whisk into Spring the old-fashioned way."}, {"response": 17, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Feb 26, 2000 (14:09)", "body": "I think Babes is the deadest conference. That's probably because it's about really good-looking women in various states of undress. Obvious when you think about it. Not :-)"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 26, 2000 (14:25)", "body": "There has been some activity on and off all along, and lately there has been comments in MMM (mine) and the one you froze which we unfroze. Autumn's also had traffic. I'm working on it...Tis a good place!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 27, 2000 (22:56)", "body": "Lively up with the Spring's webcam right this red hot second."}, {"response": 20, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 3, 2000 (13:52)", "body": "[Hi Mike!] porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 62, "subject": "hottest conference on the Spring", "response_count": 181, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (13:23)", "body": "that's easy...drool dedication, enthusiasm, constant promotion by participants and hosts on other sites"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (18:21)", "body": "gotta go with drool, alright. What conference is next in popularity and activity? food? cultures? porch? or?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (18:43)", "body": ""}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (18:44)", "body": "oops, pressed the wrong button *smile*"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (18:45)", "body": "it's drool, can't keep up with it *woohoo* way to go droolers! hey, is there, like, an award? you know spring's hottest conference?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (19:13)", "body": "No question, drool. And they support us with contributions too. Over $350 in contributions from drooleurs last month alone, which paid our whole Internet bill for a month."}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "apps probably has the next largest group of posters, albeit they are an irregular bunch..."}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 14, 1999 (21:08)", "body": "i've got a disk coming in from netstudio, i'll see if i can make an award!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 15, 1999 (08:54)", "body": "apps gets the traffic from cws.internet.com which is Forrest Stroud's Consummate Winsock Apps site. It gets a coupla million hits a day. And he has every review he writes linked to a conference topic (close to 400 of them I think). I've never got the traffic from this source that you would expect. It's very sporadic traffic. At one time, I thought a commerce site could be built around this conference."}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (00:12)", "body": "Lets hear it for the Ladies in Drool. And the occasional gentleman. We are a very special group - but not more than you are! We worry about you, too. I am delighted they are doing well by you, Terry, but I shall keep up the vigilance. We just could not do without Drool and Spring!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (00:24)", "body": "I applaud the ladies of drool. That conference sizzles!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (00:55)", "body": "Perhaps as you grind that peanut gluten you could ponder why it is that I found eloquent men puzzling why Drooleurs did not frequent their site (the semi-dreary one of My Life Today.) Do the men from \"down here\" lurk in Drool to see what we talk about? Are we embarrassing them? Some of it gets rather um... adult in content. Nothing escapes our scrutiny! I have brought several lurkers into the ranks of posters lately. Shall the men be next? We welcome their input"}, {"response": 13, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jul 2, 1999 (18:59)", "body": "yes yes, and the ladies are invited to post in babes (hey, i do!) and we start our own babe topics too! (you know, to see if the babe chasers are paying attention)"}, {"response": 14, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (01:18)", "body": "and we usually are..."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (01:52)", "body": "We men are so low level compared to the drooleurs, with your literary slant and eloquence. Sometimes our adulation comes down to honking at pretty girl crossing the street. We're so hopeless when it comes to expressing our admiration. And we just haven't been able to match your *intensity*, ya know. Who is the femaile counterpart or equivalent of say a Colin Firth? I stutter when I try to explain drool to folks, what should I tell them other than ordinarily sensible women who have temporarily lost their minds over the likes of Colin Firth and others?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (15:40)", "body": "ponder ponder ponder"}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (21:32)", "body": "Expecting something brilliant from all that pondering, wer! Terry, you are selling the men short. I have read their postings in Philosophy and in Books. They are eloquent, incisive and reflective. We need more of that in this world. As to Drooleurs, I never admit to anyone who knows me in person (including my son)where I spend endless hours. I can think of no other indivudual who has caused so much to be written both in fact and in fiction on the net. (OK, time to post all the ones I am not noticing! I cannot explain it - but it continues to happen as a new generation of young ladies discover this most admirable of men (not counting the men reading this.) *smile* Wolf, I'm on my way over to Babes to add my two cents worth. Thanks for telling me."}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (21:39)", "body": "(Terry)what should I tell them other than ordinarily sensible women who have temporarily lost their minds over the likes of Colin Firth and others? What else is there to say? I am beginning to wonder how temporary it is, though. Going on several years now, I think it is becoming a permanent condition!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (21:44)", "body": "BTW, *What* others ? you mean there are other men being drooled over up there?!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (01:06)", "body": "good point"}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (01:09)", "body": "Which one?"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (16:41)", "body": "How did we Firthians come to get the name Drool for our conference? It is not a name I would have necessarily have chosen - though I do my share of it with some regularly!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (07:46)", "body": "Y'all can have more conferences if you need them. You could have a conference called firth if you wanted. There's already a bronte and and austen conference, though they have very little traffic compared to their heyday."}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (10:22)", "body": "i was wondering about that......actually, it's a great idea for firth since there are so many topics concerning him in drool. they could just title the conference firthing (or something) and move those topics specifically about him over there. whatcha think droolers? i had wondered about that for collecting. barbie is big out there on the net. but i'd only want a new conference when we get those collector's to come a chat with us. (which, i'm working on)"}, {"response": 25, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 6, 1999 (12:01)", "body": "just let me know when I need to set them up..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 7, 1999 (14:30)", "body": "Getting the lurkers to post is a time-consuming business. I know; I do a lot of it through individual email and have had some success. Firthing (love that term!)comes and goes with what the man is doing and whether A&E or the BBC has just rebroadcast Pride and Prejudice. Right now, it is slow, but many regular posters are offline on holiday. Let us see what activity Fall brings."}, {"response": 27, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (18:16)", "body": "Stumbled across this...I've long thought it would be good to change Drool as you're suggesting. It's tiresome to accidently end up on some strange topic ;-) Not that there's anything wrong with Mel Gibson, but ...and it would load quicker for newbies who don't know how to zero in on certain boards, recent messages. Waiting for that whole list (expecially the first 40 or so) of topics, well, it's not cooled anyone's ardo but if it's all the same to ya'll. Easy for me to say, I don't have to do anything :-)"}, {"response": 28, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (18:18)", "body": "PS Marcia I came out recently. Inspired by your antics, I mean, eloquence, as described by the gentlemen above."}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (20:54)", "body": "LOL Ann....too funny. You are not the first to join my escapades and I appreciate your mentioning them. BTW, Welcome to Spring and to Drool. I am hanging out at Geo lately. Peek in there too, sometime http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (21:52)", "body": "Dear, You need to go into Drool this way http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/drool/all/new"}, {"response": 31, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (23:49)", "body": "So this is where you all hang out to talk about us? ;-D The phenom that is Drool. If is ain't broke, no need to do any fixin, unless you want to take care of a few of our posters. I won't tell if you won't! And quimby, dear, do use that url that Marcia supplied and Drool will load quicker and without the other old stuff."}, {"response": 32, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "Shush, I wasn't here."}, {"response": 33, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (01:02)", "body": "okay...I didn't see a thing..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (03:05)", "body": "Thanks, but I meant \"those\" newbies. (Me in the past.) Currently I go to the actual address [blah blah blah/# of topic.# of message]. Super quick to load. And Marcia, I was looking for your Geo url. Thanks for giving it to me on a silver platter. Since these responses came so much quicker than I imagined, I'll repeat a request I put on another topic: can anybody help me with telnet? I can get connected, but once I'm in my own subdirectory I'm clueless. I must confess I've always had a menu once I get that far. I'm eager to learn how to do it from scratch, but I can't find any instructions anywhere, and I hate to bother Terry more than is absolutely necessary. Suggestions? TIA"}, {"response": 35, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (03:06)", "body": "Really quimby, just thought this user showing up as a new message might interest someone. I'm shameless."}, {"response": 36, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (03:07)", "body": "I kind of like it. I'll check to see if it's available ;-)"}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (13:36)", "body": "Telnet/quimby, you gotta stop talking to yourself. Monday, when the regular telnetters log in you will get your answer."}, {"response": 38, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (04:34)", "body": "Or question!"}, {"response": 39, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (12:37)", "body": "Thanks to help from Terry, I telnetted for the first time yesterday. Sort of like taking your first step. I was using two other telnet things, but I got the one Terry recommended somewhere. BTY the link to download there wasn't good anymore, but it was easy to find the old fashioned way (cnet download). I've been accomplishing things left and right since then: put together 2 new 1500-cd \"book\"cases, set up a new quadrant of my new computer, etc. I often get a boost at Spring, and you never know how or here it'll come ;-) Long way to go to being a good telnetter, but it's fun to learn."}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (13:21)", "body": "Happy to hear you are getting through ok. If Terry cannot help you, I guess no one can as regards things Spring. Despite the \"Ann\" I called you a few days ago, I am happy to see you back, and I do know you....=) Indeed, you are no newbie!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (08:58)", "body": "MARCIA! Stop calling people names! Quimby - or may I say, Miss Telnet?-, don't take offense. One gets used to it, and she doesn't mean ill. Some people, she even calls \"William\", others \"Dear\" or \"Sweetie\", or says things like \"Thank you!\", can you believe that! We don't mind that much, because we know that deep down, there has to be a friendly soul or something... ;=}"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (10:19)", "body": "Lot's of people here can help you if I'm out of pocket. I would dread being the only one who could help people. Ray, Marcia, William, Stacey, and bunches of folks here are helpful, not to mention kind and courteous."}, {"response": 43, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (11:28)", "body": "Yep, we don't want to mention those last two..."}, {"response": 44, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (11:32)", "body": "but we do want to mention Karen and Heide and Wolf and Alexander and Autumn (although she probably won't agree) and...and...and... (why is this starting to sound like an acceptance speech? I want to start thanking everyone...)"}, {"response": 45, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (11:46)", "body": "(Well, do, if you feel like it... But don' think you'll get away scot-free when Autumn finds out about her ranking just after me and before And... Of course you simply MUST rank me after the girls, but do I see the word \"Mikey\" here somewhere? Do I?)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (11:47)", "body": "(Oh, there is is: Response 45, fifth-last word!)"}, {"response": 47, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (12:54)", "body": "see...just like an acceptance speech, somebody gets left out... and, of course, Mike!!!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (14:32)", "body": "(datta ma boy!)"}, {"response": 49, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (14:55)", "body": "aw, shucks!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Aug 13, 1999 (23:03)", "body": "On behalf of the Academy, we are proud to bestow this honor upon you..."}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 13, 1999 (23:45)", "body": "Speech...!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (05:20)", "body": "...less?"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (13:58)", "body": "*lol* I think so!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:00)", "body": "Marcia, you can call me anything, as you well know. I'm secure in my identity, it's all the same to me. Miss Telnet? Did I win a contest? Do I get a crown? I always wanted one of those ribbon things. So handy if people forget your name. One caveat, Alex(ander): I will deign to rule for a time only if I don't have to be on good behavior, and if you promise not to strip me of my title if, you know, pictures which look like me but couldn't possibly be me because I am a good girl, if those kinds of pictures show up. After Vanessa's experience, I've taken to turning down honors of any sort. I guess that makes me dis-honorable tee hee. BTW, over what do I rule? Of what am I a breathtaking example? Of what domain am I mistress? And why does We get to do the acceptance speech? I don't know him; is he a potential rival for Miss Telnet? I understand he cooks but that is v. masculine, to me. And Terry-thanks for the list of people to bug."}, {"response": 55, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:00)", "body": "Marcia, you can call me anything, as you well know. I'm secure in my identity, it's all the same to me. Miss Telnet? Did I win a contest? Do I get a crown? I always wanted one of those ribbon things. So handy if people forget your name. One caveat, Alex(ander): I will deign to rule for a time only if I don't have to be on good behavior, and if you promise not to strip me of my title if, you know, pictures which look like me but couldn't possibly be me because I am a good girl, if those kinds of pictures show up. After Vanessa's experience, I've taken to turning down honors of any sort. I guess that makes me dis-honorable tee hee. BTW, over what do I rule? Of what am I a breathtaking example? Of what domain am I mistress? And why does Wer get to do the acceptance speech? I don't know him; is he a potential rival for Miss Telnet? I understand he cooks but that is v. masculine, to me. And Terry-thanks for the list of people to bug."}, {"response": 56, "author": "quimby", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:01)", "body": "Oh my. I'd better stick to telnetting."}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (20:46)", "body": "As close as I can tell, virtual sexuality being what it is, Wer is most assuredly all male. Uh...no. He is not a potential rival for any Miss Telnet. I see that you miss Alexander, too. September, he promised me, he would be back because his quarterly issue would be put to bed by that time. Until then, he is all work and no Spring or email, for that matter. I shall call you anything but your real name - there are a lot of Drooleurs who use euphemisms and whatever you wish shall be what I call you...excepting your real name...(betcha thought I didn't know!) Hey, pop up to 72 and I can crown you with whatever you'd like that I can find on the internet. That is where Evelyn got hers and Gi and other, too."}, {"response": 58, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (22:25)", "body": "i've had the pleasure of meeting William f2f and can say that he is definitely male. either that, or that is one ugly, hairy-legged woman."}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 60, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (22:40)", "body": "Amen!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 23, 1999 (22:49)", "body": "I always thought guys were supposed to be like that..."}, {"response": 62, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (12:50)", "body": "...ugly women?"}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (13:57)", "body": "No...no...no! Furry and different from women. Not like ugly women...besides, there are no ugly women, there are just women who do not make the best of what God has given them...*smile*"}, {"response": 64, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (15:00)", "body": "So, in the US, if it's ugly, it's male?"}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (16:07)", "body": "Not if it is me you are asking...! I adore big massive hunks of furry (or not) pulchritude of the XY chromosome variety. My life would me much poorer without them in it."}, {"response": 66, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (00:21)", "body": "Marcia: I was quite certain you knew, ergo some of my comments. As a Power That Bes, I know you're aware of, well, probably everything. And I have been called quite a bit ;-) Ray: No Tony Curtis, huh? Not even a Jack Lemmon? I won't ask why you _had_ to have a f2f. I'm sure it was a v. good reason. Marcia: I say it's women who just happen not to have much money. It's amazing what a little professional advice can do; that, and not worrying about the electricity being turned off on your seven children while you're at work for 16 hours six days a week. Alexander: Here, male beauty is celebrated far more than female. Not that that originated here, of course. So, William, I'm prepared to work up some sort of joint-rule thingy, Ray's opinion notwithstanding. It's much better when you have company. Oh and Marcia, you do have some lovely crowns. Maybe one for reviewing the troops (one of my favorite hobbies) and a simple tiara for playing basketball. I'll start window shopping 72."}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (01:09)", "body": "Oh I do get around and have contacts all over the place, you are quite right. But might not a triumverate be alright. A wise woman and a younger telnetter and William...for the third?! I can whip up suitable garb and attendant lackeys for the job. How do you think that might be? Always flexible, my dear ;)"}, {"response": 68, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (01:10)", "body": "and, quimby, Sooooo much better than tony Curtis....."}, {"response": 69, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (04:17)", "body": "I'm always flexible. I wouldn't mind a triumvirate if I was (were?) the only woman, wise or not ;-) I always envied Charlotte Rampling. But then maybe you're right, lackeys may be the way to go. I've seen your taste in lackeys (or was that Gi's, the force on the beach welcoming your ship?) Let's check with William. Perhaps he's otherwise engaged (don't want a Prince C on our hands now, do we?) Many people are better than Tony Curtis, but Tony Curtis in a dress? If you say he's ok, ok by me."}, {"response": 70, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (04:19)", "body": "So Marcia were you at Ray and William's little tete a tete? Is that how you know?"}, {"response": 71, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (04:20)", "body": "As you know, I'm easy."}, {"response": 72, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (08:09)", "body": "it was around the first part of this year that i had to go to Austin on business. i only had one morning meeting, so i arranged to have lunch with terry, then drove over to little italy to meet william. the neat thing about all of this was that all of the locations i had to go to were all within about 3 miles of each other! talk about luck. both terry and william are extremely pleasant guys. terry had me out-geeked with two cell phones, one of which could access then net. i was surprised at how big william was. not fat big, just big. had i not been dieting, i would have asked about some free pizza or spaghetti! ;)"}, {"response": 73, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "no... get the tiramisu!!!"}, {"response": 74, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (12:12)", "body": "Thanks for the description, Ray...I am most interested in your findings. Now, if you had only taken a digital camera instead of those phones....*smile* Some day, before I die, I must try this edible orgasm...!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (12:22)", "body": "as should everyone else!"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (12:24)", "body": "Charlotte, I was not at the tete-a-tete, unfortunately, and alas...but I do have good sources and he shall not wear a dress unless there is something I have not yet learned about him...(no whalebone corsets or lace pantaloons, either)...This is one of those things you will have to take my word on...and wait for his comments when he is less busy...!"}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (14:00)", "body": "Sheesh, next thing I will be calling you is cheryl ;)"}, {"response": 78, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (14:04)", "body": "I've been know to wear a skirt, though..."}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (14:10)", "body": "ummm...would you care to elucidate on that comment??? I am all curiosity!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (16:49)", "body": "(Hint: Look at Laughing Sky's Cloud!) Charlene, I did not get that remark... Where'd it come from, then?"}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (17:02)", "body": "Alexander, where is this cloud at which we are supposed to look?"}, {"response": 82, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (17:39)", "body": "...where all things are explained! Yours mysteriously, A. (Or ask the mighty Pasquina!)"}, {"response": 83, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (17:50)", "body": "Alas, again...where all things are explained is not available today (so far) so I cannot ask for crucial questions plaguing me. I cannot imagine...(have I gotten him that wrong?!)"}, {"response": 84, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (21:25)", "body": "Ray- To meet them both! It sounds nice. You'd figure they'd be pleasant. And charmingly, attractively geeky. First trip to Texas? Never been there. I grew up in the South, but of course Texas isn't the South. Somehow the idea of a Little Italy in Austin is, well, new and confusing to me. I know Boston's Little Italy and New York's Little Italy but now I have this new concept to ponder. So William is a lumberjack sort of fellow, or you're just saying that to make Marcia happy? And you don't want to be a lu berjack sort of fellow? Stacey- So you're close to these guys? The tiramisu--what makes it so special? Marcia- But what about a kilt? I'm crazy about kilts. I'm always so impressed to see a guy running around in a kilt or a (what are those wrap things Michael Stipe wears?) It should come as no surprise that I actually own Braveheart, and that my vacation plans include the home of Patrick Stewart. Did anybody see him on Saturday Night Live a few years back? Anyway, I'm glad you don't think I'd have to share my lace, and that he wouldn't dislodge his organs by wearing a whalebone corset. You don't want to rule with an idiot. You might as well call me Cheryl, since she's gone forever. Off editing a film, I heard. I doubt if I could fill her shoes, though. Or maybe you were thinking of Cheryl Sneed? Reminds me of something to share with the class re leaving a board: http://www.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/Forum4/HTML/000629.html Pertinent exchange: killboy and karlvonl. What would you like to be called, Marcia? I mean that won't get us in trouble with the net nannies. Wer, yes, please elucidate. Please. A. Sorry, sometimes when I'm tired I'm tiresome. As I learned to say in NY: fuggedaboudit. As to your question, Greece :-) I guess the Cloud is from your shared past....and I'm left out....oh well. Pasquina? Que pasa?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "quimby", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (21:26)", "body": "Please."}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (21:39)", "body": "How about Cheryl Eliot? or not...off traipsing the world with clipboard in hand behind someone making vast amounts of money with which he is sharing not enough with you...or your doppleganger...?! Cloud is in here somewhere if you read back far enough, as is all sorts of embarrassing information we wish would stay buried. Re the kilt. when you are too poor to afford one you wrap the plaid (a piece of fabric, not a pattern) - usually tartan (the pattern) around your waist and throw the rest around your shoulders. That was what he was wearing in Braveheart, as far as I know...but you did not work on that picture?! (oh yes, Nostromo.....!) Call me what you will. I answer to Mom, but only from my son and his friends. No one else calls me anything...including not calling me honey, sweetheart, love, or anything else nice. Marcia it is, I'm afraid, unless you think of something the rest did not! Saw Patrick Stweart on SNL, indeed! He should be on my Male Babes List. hmmmmm...leave anything out?"}, {"response": 87, "author": "quimby", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (03:20)", "body": "From a discussion at the top of the board: Paul Terry Walhus We men are so low level compared to the drooleurs, with your literary slant and eloquence. Sometimes our adulation comes down to honking at pretty girl crossing the street. We're so hopeless when it comes to expressing our admiration. And we just haven't been able to match your *intensity*, ya know. Who is the femaile counterpart or equivalent of say a Colin Firth? ... Marcia ...Terry, you are selling the men short. I have read their postings in Philosophy and in Books. They are eloquent, incisive and reflective. We need more of that in this world. As to Drooleurs, I never admit to anyone who knows me in person (including my son)where I spend endless hours.... Terry, most of us don't have a LS & E. And men can 'spress pretty good--all those writers and poets throughout the ages. 'Course they didn't have cars... Maybe it's the person one is interested in. There may be Schwartzenegger boards somewhere, but you'd run out of things to say pretty quickly, I'd imagine. If the \"love interest\" isn't very interesting, well, can't make a silk purse... But it's also the individual people in a community. If the admirers aren't very interesting themselves...'nuff said. Nevertheless, you could be an interesting fellow and still not care about a conference. If you're not interested in admiring someone verbally for fun (who is interesting and keeps re-earning your admiration), if you'd rather do your taxes than talk about someone you can't have but appreciate, then why waste time when you could be doing something you enjoy? When you could be working towar something you can have? You can spend your time on tech boards where you share info and master something. Or you could go to the beach. I can't speak for anybody else in Firthland, and I'm not the typical person there for various reasons. But nobody in Firthland is typical compared to the people in your everyday life, and neither is he. That's the fun. It's a pleasure to talk to cool gals under any circumstances, and here there are so many of them under one roof. It's great to add to your fantasy life with no downside; nobody here (as far as I can tell) mixes this up with reality. And I find it, um, adds to your real life. To me the whole thing proves once again that nice guys don't finish last, if they're truly nice and not pretending or deluded. There are better looking actors and better actors and richer actors, but who cares? Who he's decided to be, and works hard at being, touches me. The whole package is worth noting, and I spend time I don't have doing so. The net lets us find people who have similar values. That's what makes for a smokin' conference. That, and knowing the guy would be great in bed."}, {"response": 88, "author": "quimby", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (03:48)", "body": "CE? Nah. Too boring and pompous. And she was always a troublemaker. I'll always dig for dirt, but it clearly isn't on this topic. I guess I'll have to be like Kenneth Branagh in *sigh* A Month in the Country. Well now all this kilt stuff is fascinating. BH is so ridiculous, but who cares. Also, in your part of the world, do guys wear sarongs? And if not, why not? I called you sweetie. Does that mean I'm a.) in the doghouse or b.) extraordinarily imaginative or c.) all of the above? Ah yes, Jean Luc. One of the benefits of the Big Apple is actually running into him a couple of times (and I do mean running; we both walk very quickly.) He loves NY. And he glows. I don't think it's from the dilithium crystals. Maybe it's the matter-anti-matter drive."}, {"response": 89, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (05:27)", "body": "Ok, the cloud IS where everything is explained - and Alexander and the mighty Pasquina have their homes - in Screwed, of course... Greece - I guessed that... Just wanted to hear it from your lips (or tips - finger tips, that is...). Gotta run, bye!"}, {"response": 90, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (09:36)", "body": "so much action in so little time... what the in the hell were we talking about anyway? or was this a convert effort to turn THIS topic in the hottest conferenece on the Spring?! All the Cheryl versus Cheryl vs doppelgangers is beyond me... so I throw up my hands in imagined helplessness and move on... btw quimby... the 'then why waste time when you could be doing something you enjoy?' comment I found brilliant and thrilling. And although I profess to take that attitude 24/7, I think I lie to myself frequently about what I enjoy... in other words, I needed to hear that affirmation/reprimand/mantra from another... thanks! Re: do I know 'these guys'... well... never met Ray had the pleasure of meeting WER, tasting his culinary delights and meeting his family a couple years back... certainly a pleasure and NO he doesn't look like a lumberjack! Big, yes, burly, no... I used to work with Paul many moons ago, and it was he who introduced me to the fine world of virtuality. (I also started a silly rumor, using an offhand post, that Paul was my cousin... *grin*) blah, blah, blah... oh... the tiramisu... I've previously described it as \"an edible orgasm\"... YOU decide what's so special about that!"}, {"response": 91, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (12:43)", "body": "Now I am also lost. What is attitude 24/7 ? I have seen it referenced before, but did not figure it out then, either. I think it is time to find something else to do. I am beginning to chase my own tail and people will get very tired of seeing my posts everywhere with no interaction. I shall forthwith go out a get a real life and leave this to the people who fine it more enjoyable and less painful than I do at present. Quimby dear, you may call me sweetie anytime you'd like. It makes me feel good that you do, My Dear =) And, you are extraordinarily imaginative...definitely! Men here wear lavalavas (Just below the knee wrap-around \"skirts\" The Malo is more interesting. It is just like an HAwaiian-print Athletic support...with two little flaps hanging in front and in back. Very...impressive!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (14:44)", "body": "24/7 refers to 24 hours a day... 7 days a week... in other words... all the time... I was trying to illustrate that the thought is something I should (and try) live by but am not always successful all the time... do'nt go Marcia... i'll miss you... The Malo sounds just wonderful!!!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:13)", "body": "Thanks Stace...I just needed a word of encouragement...and you always come through. *Hugs* The Malo is a marvelous thing. I was one of the officers in the UHHilo Booster club last year and there was a tournament (basketball) the evening before which there was Polynesian entertainment for the visiting teams. I was seated right next to the stage. The male dancers stood right above me and I dared not look up at them lest I be seen to be peeking under that flap...but I did anyway...! *LOL* They did not seem to mind, but I am sure I was some shade of pink I had never been before. That was Too up close and personal! Gotcha on the 24/7....sounds like my life at Spring *smile*"}, {"response": 94, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:26)", "body": "\"Oh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay...\" The skirt was worn to a Skatenigs show at the Back Room, btw... burly would be my dad and brother...once again, I'm the runt male in my family..."}, {"response": 95, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:30)", "body": "That, and knowing the guy would be great in bed. LOL!! ;-D"}, {"response": 96, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:30)", "body": "and, Laughing Sky's Cloud is at http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/screwed/151"}, {"response": 97, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:41)", "body": "I said, didn't I - where all things are explained! Aw, shucks. what a day."}, {"response": 98, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:46)", "body": "I know...I was just posting the url, too..."}, {"response": 99, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:53)", "body": "... you ma buddy, Wer!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:24)", "body": "Gentlemen, I just read the entire topic and I am totally lost on its meaning. Perhaps one must be there to understand the deeper meaning of it all...!"}, {"response": 101, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:30)", "body": "Not me! You, Wer?"}, {"response": 102, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:38)", "body": "Somehow, William in Drag does nothing for me. Come to think of it, men in drag in general are a turn-off, so I will just leave him on the cloud with the incontinence meds and fishnet stockings and stilletto heels and cut my loses. It was so enlighening to read that I think I will stay screwed for a long time."}, {"response": 103, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:54)", "body": "*cackle* sorry Marcia... the befuddled look on your otherwise intelligent and perceptive face really cracked me up!"}, {"response": 104, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (17:05)", "body": "Stace, this is definitely not one of my better days. (digging a hole to bury that perceptive face so it percieves no more...)"}, {"response": 105, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (17:10)", "body": "WHAZZA MATTA YOU HEY? (IRL issues?)"}, {"response": 106, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (18:42)", "body": "IRL...but virtual...the current one we have been concerned about...I just stuck my foot in where I should not have...Hope I am forgiven."}, {"response": 107, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:09)", "body": "by whom? certainly not me, the Spring's court jester..."}, {"response": 108, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:18)", "body": "No, not by you...not ever you. You are not cruel enough to do that."}, {"response": 109, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:34)", "body": "Alexander Greece - I guessed that... Just wanted to hear it I thought so ;-) Stacey or was this a convert effort to turn THIS topic in the hottest conferenece on the Spring?! Absolutely a convert effort, heh heh. All the Cheryl versus Cheryl vs doppelgangers is beyond me... so I throw up my hands in imagined helplessness and move on... ! So sorry, Stacey. It was quite rude of me, like speaking another language over someone else's head. Marcia and I were referring to two Cheryls who used to be at the Colinfest. One drops by less these days, only occasionally, but is loyal, as she is the keeper of some intimate article or other of Darcy's (a character Colin played.) The other was there for a few months and left, and she was quite opinionated. As to \"doppelgangers\", well, to me it's like weltanschauung and weltschmertz and bildungsroman and undestag and all those other German words you'd better use right or you'll look silly. Lord knows I don't need help with that. Ask Marcia why she's going all literary on us all of a sudden. I myself fell victim to the thrill of using gang signs outside of our turf. Please accept my apologies. 'then why waste time when you could be doing something you enjoy?' comment ...hear that affirmation/reprimand/mantra from another! Me too. It's the old \"unbearable lightness of being.\" I'm having a great time or finally free and then I immediately clamp on the lead weights, make a slight hole in my oxygen tube, and leap into an ocean crevass. Occasionally someone knocks on my metal helmet and points up. I'm always forgetting that's an option. Stacey the tiramisu I was just wondering how he does that. But if you can't say, I understand. Marcia Now I am also lost...I think it is time to find something else to do. No! No! Now why would you do a thing like that? We can't carry on so freely in Firthland, and besides there's no guys there. Maybe a nap will make you feel better. Or a good stretch. Can I call you sugarplum? Sometimes it just slips out. I called my one of my lawyers honey (the one I don't know so well, a woman) the other day when we won big. It's truly a term of endearment and respect. Men here wear lavalavas ...hanging in front and in back. I've seen pictures of these things. I envy your official duties. You definitely rule; Malo-peeking is a much better official duty than reviewing the troops. And you soldiered through in a tough situation. Bravo. I cannot renounce my crown, because I am too vain, but I'm happy to welcome you aboard. Maybe it's better just the two of us. wer Oh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay...\" LOL! I expect burly is relative, since you've been described by our man Ray as big (not runt-like). In the South and West, I'm average sized. In the North, I'm a giant. So the mystery remains. Karen LOL!! ;-D Karen you dog. Stop lurking and join us. Wer: thanks for the link. Trippy. Like Stacey, I throw up my hands in imagined helplessness and move on... Marcia Come to think of it, men in drag in general are a turn-off I don't think the point is ever to turn us (women) on. I'm sure our William had perfectly good reasons for whatever he did and carried it out with great savoir faire. Lumberjack, burly, or runt, as long as he didn't trip over himself, and remembered to hike up his skirt to run, he could have cut a dashing figure. There's so much being written these days about men in drag...but I don't know that that adds to a discussion of hot conferences, and also Alexander will say he's not following again ;-) Marcia, you apologize more than I do! What on earth did we do wrong? You're so much fun, whaddaya worrying about?"}, {"response": 110, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (00:47)", "body": "You did nothing. I think I need to get over the flu I got yesterday and I will feel better. I just need a hug...!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (01:08)", "body": "I'll be back to comment after some sleep..."}, {"response": 112, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (01:32)", "body": "xxxoooxxxoooxxxoooxxxoooxxxoooxxxooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"}, {"response": 113, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (12:06)", "body": "Thank you, my dear quimby...My spirits are a little better this morning, butmy eyes resent being asked to focus on small print. x0x0x0x0x back at you.*smile*"}, {"response": 114, "author": "quimby", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (08:09)", "body": "O"}, {"response": 115, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (11:18)", "body": "Thanks....I can actually see that, but it keeps coming and going..and coming...must be my eyes again ;) (Looks like someone has been at the HTML programming again. Very nice, dear!)"}, {"response": 116, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (13:30)", "body": "hoho, Quimby, gotcha: \"The other was there for a few months and left, and she was quite opinionated. As to \"doppelgangers\", well, to me it's like weltanschauung and weltschmertz and bildungsroman and undestag and all those other German words\" Yep, I know what you mean (harhar), even though YAPP ate the Bundestag's \"B\", and the Doppelg\ufffdnger's \"\ufffd\"'s two silly dots and added something precious to the general Weltschmerz I have at the moment, like the hangover from some stingy friend's cheap wine at that party that lasted until sunrise and broke up in a argument nobody ever understood what it was all about afterwards."}, {"response": 117, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (14:31)", "body": "...sorry about the missing umlauts. I will try harder next time. and, quit drinking that cheap stuff...it will rust your plumbing and make your head feel dreadful, ruin your joie d'vivre and other Irish terms;)"}, {"response": 118, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (11:04)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 119, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (14:38)", "body": "Marcia = Cheyenne ? Huh, das verwirrt mich jetzt aber, I must say! Anyway, Marcia, needn't be the bottled stuff - many folks substitute this nicely by using lead pipes for their drinking water... (BTW, that wasn't CHEAP wine, it just was a lot...)"}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (14:57)", "body": "(...I was just using your words)...not implying your having overindulged. Gak!! Your water is that bad, is it?! Causes brain damage...downfall of the Roman Empire and all that! (I meant your personal plumbing...btw *grin*) hmmmm...which Cheyenne might this be that Marcia=???"}, {"response": 121, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (08:58)", "body": "over-indulgement in wine is something I can relate to this morning :)) ::headache:: :)"}, {"response": 122, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (12:13)", "body": "...poor mikey...wear very soft slippers and use rubber dishes. We must be very quiet while this wears off...shhhhhh!"}, {"response": 123, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (12:24)", "body": "so i tell you... marcia = quimby = cheyenne = charlene = ch... that right? guess not. mikey, best wishes! had an aspirin yet? vitamins, fresh air and darkness might help, too..."}, {"response": 124, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (13:02)", "body": "rather than a noisy dealing floor and glowing computer screens, you mean? Ahhhh that's where I went wrong :)"}, {"response": 125, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (13:14)", "body": "Oh yes, indeed! This calls for muted everything from sounds, visual stimulation, and probably oral, too. Unless on of the latter two would make you forget you had a hangover?! Happy thought, indeed! (computer screens give headaches to healthy people...turn it off or very dim, anyway!) *hugs* Mike!"}, {"response": 126, "author": "quimby", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (02:04)", "body": "Alexander: sorry, Marcia and I really are two different people, as I'm sure she'll attest. But you're catchin' on, clearly."}, {"response": 127, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (18:24)", "body": "Hi Quimby. I've missed you of late. now that CF's birthday is over, perhaps you will not be such as stranger."}, {"response": 128, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (12:08)", "body": "gotta chuckle every time I see 'CF' Brandon and I refer to gobs of people milling as a 'cf' or huge traffic disorde rs as a 'cf'... affectionately known as a 'cluster fu\ufffdk'"}, {"response": 129, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (12:30)", "body": "Welcome back, Potte...erh, Quimby! Sure I catch on! You know, I always dig everything... What were you talking about, run that by me again, pls?"}, {"response": 130, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (14:57)", "body": "Oh Stacey! *lol* Now you've done it. That is all I will see now when I head cf. Guess that's why we also use ODB and DB for him (Our Dear Boy or Dear Boy) for which someone will have a ready alternate meaning...*sigh* I haven't a clue who I am anymore...suggestions of yours are as good as mine!"}, {"response": 131, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "You be Marcia? I guess?"}, {"response": 132, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (16:39)", "body": "You Peeked ! Indeed, the one and only that I am aware of around this very special place. *smile*"}, {"response": 133, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (12:56)", "body": "hey it's me! Potty Mouth!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (13:04)", "body": "I could have figured pouty mouth, but potty? Pardon, Miss?"}, {"response": 135, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (13:09)", "body": "given name to all of those who espouse nasty words outta their mouths... like the stuff outta people s butts"}, {"response": 136, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (14:59)", "body": "Oooh, THAT potty! Hey, but pouty mouth would be nice, too... Wonder if I ever meet somebody around here who pouts..."}, {"response": 137, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (16:41)", "body": "I probably do on occassion..."}, {"response": 138, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (15:12)", "body": "... YOU? I'd never have guessed!"}, {"response": 139, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (15:13)", "body": "Hey, don't pout! That was jes' kiddin', gal!"}, {"response": 140, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 20, 1999 (16:33)", "body": "*fake pout* (furrowed brow and jutted out lower lip) no you weren't..."}, {"response": 141, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (12:14)", "body": "Ah, girlie, donna play games like dat! Din'tcha Mommie tell ya tha brows-trick gets ya wrinkles? (hehe, should cure 'er!)"}, {"response": 142, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (17:13)", "body": "*wide eyes* *straight brow* (can't help laughing with this kinda get up on my face!)"}, {"response": 143, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "Something like this??? \ufffd:-]"}, {"response": 144, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "That's gotta be her!"}, {"response": 145, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:54)", "body": "very nice!"}, {"response": 146, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "You got it....! ...and I got the nicest letter back for my efforts *grin*"}, {"response": 147, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (15:14)", "body": "That was my look, too on post your primary email here, and all that stuff yesterday. I can still feel the headache!"}, {"response": 148, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (04:17)", "body": "You get upset with yourself too easily. I've made worse mistakes than that millions of times around here, so much so you'd think I was getting paid for it. It doesn't really matter. It would be scary if no-one EVER made mistakes."}, {"response": 149, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (09:01)", "body": "i second that! it's only funny because we've all done silly things like that before..."}, {"response": 150, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (13:02)", "body": "Yeah! You remember how Jim and I used to fight, Stacey??"}, {"response": 151, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (14:14)", "body": "Gotcha, and thanks. Icannot bear for people I respect and like very much to think I am being truly stupid on purpose, or as Jane Austen put it, \"I cannot bear to think of [him] out in the world and thinking ill of me\" Again, thanks. I should have realized long ago that there was no malice in any one of us toward the other...*hugs*"}, {"response": 152, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (15:14)", "body": "point well taken Marcia (and again I didn't mean to hurt your feelings) but one thing I have a problem with... you worry so much about what others think of you... especially those you feel closest to... Why?? we all really enjoy you and your posts, have confidence in that. those you care about, care about you 9and if you get any sense that they don't... you don't deserve that... I know you don't want us to have to walk on eggshells around you... please just believe that we like you and appreciate your views and thoughts and especially feelings. and then, if at anytime you do feel wronged or angry, we can discuss it... but i don't want our idle and ridiculous banter (and ability to laugh about silly things) to put you on edge (or us on edge either)... so... take a deep breath of Spring air and smile... we are amoung friends..."}, {"response": 153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (15:44)", "body": "Yep! ...and I can feel all the warmth and fuzziness. Unfortunately stuff going on in my Hilo home (NOT Spring home)was making me more tense and cautious. I can see it now and will head it off at the pass next time. No eggshell walking...makes a mess on your floor and hurts bare feet. As we were! *hugs all around* *BIG smiles*"}, {"response": 154, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (16:26)", "body": "thanks Marcia! (for the fundraising prompting in another conference!) EVERYBODY... I am trying to raise $4200 for the Leukemia Society by December 1st... my great feat that I would like you ALL to sponsor is a marathon run... 26.2 miles Most people are donating a dollar a mile -- $26.20 but I have had some WONDERFUL surprises of more (including $100 form an uncle, $100 from my boss and $100 from my boss' boss!) ANY amount would be FAN-DAMN TASTIC as I have a long way to go... good vibes would certainly help as well! I have described this in detail in fitness but w/ this kind of prompting from Marcia, I'll post it around somemore!"}, {"response": 155, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (16:49)", "body": "Post the address Stacey, so folks know where to send it."}, {"response": 156, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (16:51)", "body": "Stacey Vura r-33 JMTC 10100 W Ute Ave Littleton, CO 80127"}, {"response": 157, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (03:05)", "body": "Did I mention my side-line is actually axe murdering? And now I know where thee LIVE!!!! \ufffdvisciously sharpening my axe and teeth\ufffd"}, {"response": 158, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (05:26)", "body": "Hehe, not like some others here, no? I used to be pretty cool at \"grinding an axe\", and if I get going, I still sometimes do..."}, {"response": 159, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (09:58)", "body": "Ah ha! Actually now you know where I WORK!!!! And hopefully the armed guards out from will keep you at bay!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (02:56)", "body": "Not if I hide the axe and pump up my boobs!"}, {"response": 161, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (11:53)", "body": "*laugh* I'd come running outta the building to see that!"}, {"response": 162, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (12:53)", "body": "ha-ha! I'm banking on it....! And then, WHAM!!! OFF with yer head!"}, {"response": 163, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (14:57)", "body": "*ouch* perhaps you're telling me you'd rather not donate to this cause then??"}, {"response": 164, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:09)", "body": "As generous as she is, she'll donate proceedings from her last three commissions to your cause, and then BAM! off with yer head... Bet she uses a machete..."}, {"response": 165, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:24)", "body": "damn it. OUCH"}, {"response": 166, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:29)", "body": "But you'd still have the contribution, and a way cool PR that every other team will be envios of!"}, {"response": 167, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:31)", "body": "not if i don't finish the marathon!"}, {"response": 168, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (17:42)", "body": "Oh, I guess she'll possess the strenght of will to wait 'til you cross the finish line..."}, {"response": 169, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (03:46)", "body": "Nope, I'll use my axe - one carved by an artist, so at least it will be an aesthetic way to go, right? In fact, I shall have an exhibition on sight - art in motion! YES YES YES! This might just turn out to be my big break! Stacey, I'll donate. Tell me what to do."}, {"response": 170, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (10:10)", "body": "well... hmmm... how to do that different currency thing? I called Team Leukemia and they said the currency/check has to be in US dollars so... are there was to get money orders in different currencies? Alexander, Mr. Entrepenur... do you know how to go about this?? (Thanks Ree-head!!)"}, {"response": 171, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (13:11)", "body": "Stacey, I could sponsor you, then send you the money in cash, via insured mail. That would be the easiest thing, I think."}, {"response": 172, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (14:28)", "body": "Woo Woo! Sending cashola through the mail! (Do you want me to send you the sponsor forms??) n oops"}, {"response": 173, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (16:33)", "body": "There are International Money Orders (or used to be) obtainable at your bank. If someone in Zurich, the very city where the Gnomes who will take over the money of the entire world (according to the crazies) cannot get a money transfer, I guess we are all in big trouble!"}, {"response": 174, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (10:49)", "body": "do you know about those Ree-head?"}, {"response": 175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (12:53)", "body": "Sometimes they are called International Reply Coupons..."}, {"response": 176, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "Yeah, I know about international money orders - I know the fees they charge on them here especially well, plus they take WEEKS to get anywhere. That's why I suggested insured cash. Doesn't matter - we'll see when the time comes. Send me the forms, Stacey, I'll sponsor you gladly. R. Walton Klosbachstr. 72 CH-8032 Zurich Switzerland Tel.: (01) 382 10 64"}, {"response": 177, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:43)", "body": "they are in the envelope... gotta take em to the post office to see how many stamps to put on! THANK YOU!"}, {"response": 178, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "cool!"}, {"response": 179, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (00:09)", "body": "I'd love to see the stats for which conference was busiest for the last few days. I do believe Geo gave Drool bit of competition for the title of hottest conference. Does this server allow such statistics?"}, {"response": 180, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (00:14)", "body": "I think so, can't think of the actual mechanics right at the moment, have you perused the yapp guide at http://www.armidalesoftware.com or on http://www.spring.net/help ?"}, {"response": 181, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:22)", "body": "Thank you! Just curious, is all... I'll go take a look around the Yapp guide. I did not know it existed. (Learning stuff all the time here.) porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 63, "subject": "review the Spring for PlanetClick", "response_count": 13, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (03:43)", "body": "and yes, I'll probably put the button in a more prominent place... (this is just a quickie...) come back and post your review here if'n you want!!!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (08:56)", "body": "ok, i submitted my review! i forgot to cut and paste my review for you to critique! *grin*"}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, May 22, 1999 (11:50)", "body": "it's okay...*sniff*"}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 5, 2000 (14:56)", "body": "I did mine long time ago. Did not think to put it in here, either. Sorry!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 6, 2000 (19:05)", "body": "The Spring was appraised on http://www.afternic.com and here are the results from http://www.afternic.com/index.cfm?a=rs&listid=46514 Category: Internet : Portals Appraisers: 19 Mean: $54,105.26 Median: $46,500 * The most recent appraisal per member is used to compute mean and median. Displaying 1-19 of 19 appraisal comments. Exchange Member Standard Member APPRAISALS Date Member Value Comment 2/5/00 inkblot $85,000 Get the owners of Spring.com in on the bidding! p/a Inkblot.com 2/5/00 smillerx $75,000 excellent- one word, name recognition...$75k now, more later (maybe alot more)when .net names become more valuable 2/5/00 texasnetwork $1,000 Great name for somone in Spring, Texas 2/5/00 timbo1 $2,500 Good name but limited commercial value with .net. Please appraise broking.net 2/5/00 isaari $50,000 Garden store maybe? But the \"net\", well you know. Although, \"net\" like the new toll free 888 isn't such a hard thing to remember.... 2/5/00 yaniv $3,000 wonderful name.. 2/5/00 cheshireart $25,000 Love it! Short, sweet, versatile. The .net hurts but still has strong potential. Please appraise DalisArt.com Thanks! 2/4/00 ideazoo $5,000 I have to agree with adpros on this one. good luck. p/a: ComputerService.com -thanks 2/4/00 adpros $5,000 Nobody thinks of .net first when surfing, and the name is so generic it doesn't really 'say' anything. 2/4/00 Swainp $20,000 Nice name, .net certainly has value in 2001 maybe hold on to this one. Check out expresstrader.com if poss. 2/4/00 iain $120,000 i agree with kreblon&fundwizard: snappy,catchy,to the point. any views on topsearchengine.com&searchlocalusa.com? 2/4/00 capt $50,000 i own a few quality .nets vValue.net, vVirtual.net? 2/4/00 m008017 $50,000 Good name for a florist. Please appraise NeteLoan, PersonaleLoan and BusinesseLoan all dotcoms. 2/4/00 Kreblon $100,000 Rare and short URL. Sounds better than .com version. Wide applicability and easy to remember. 2/4/00 pedros $15,000 Nice name, short and sweet good luck, plz appraise www.ClassyDomains.com 2/4/00 jocarter $25,000 Good name. If we're looking at it as the .com people purchasing it, then they'd probably snap it up for a good price. If we're looking at it as a ne... 2/4/00 fundwizard $150,000 It has to pull in the big money for a .net. It is probably worth this much to the .com version! Good luck. 2/4/00 TBird93 $46,500 Not bad SHORT van dom for an ISP... 2/4/00 LarryWentz $200,000 I would appraise spring.com at a million so the .net gets the standard 20% appraisal. (Spring.net has a nicer ring to it as compared to spring.com - e..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Feb 6, 2000 (19:48)", "body": ""}, {"response": 7, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Feb 6, 2000 (22:54)", "body": ""}, {"response": 8, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (08:00)", "body": ""}, {"response": 9, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (08:20)", "body": "No where near what they're suggesting!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (16:12)", "body": ""}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 7, 2000 (16:47)", "body": "A case of 20-20 hind sight. No flogging oneself over this, please...!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (08:50)", "body": "No self flagellation."}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (11:55)", "body": "*smile* porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 64, "subject": "FREE PRESS INTERNATIONAL", "response_count": 10, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, May 24, 1999 (08:19)", "body": "Welcome! What would you like to share with us, Greg?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 19, 1999 (09:54)", "body": "This topic would be more appropriate in media or news, don't you think?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jul 19, 1999 (17:11)", "body": "Put it there and check with Greg if it's ok to delete it here? Alexander Resident ***Censored Because Nobody Has A Dictionary Around When You Need IT***, The Spring"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (11:51)", "body": "I think I'll move it to tv because it's a local tv show."}, {"response": 5, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (11:57)", "body": ""}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (14:23)", "body": ""}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 13, 1999 (01:12)", "body": ""}, {"response": 8, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (14:05)", "body": "Oh, THAT Thursday! Yeah, the night at the Underground in Cologne WAS a smasher, and, believe it or don't - I BRAG NOT! Shiny eyes all around, and that sure wasn't the smoke... What a great night! I only wished our luck would have kept up..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Nov 25, 2000 (23:54)", "body": ""}, {"response": 10, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Nov 25, 2000 (23:55)", "body": "oops. must have pressed the wrong button. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 65, "subject": "suggestions for main", "response_count": 83, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (00:03)", "body": "Oh, good, no one has seen this yet..."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (00:17)", "body": "I think it is a really good place for important Spring Stuff to be presented ...like upcoming attractions which one need not sift through the topics to find like the Solar eclipse tomorrow..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (03:40)", "body": "\"...oh! A solar eclipse! Where?\""}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (11:15)", "body": ""}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (11:35)", "body": "got an idea...um, for those of us with really long hot topic lists, is there a way to put them into columns so we can be lazy and not have to scroll down the screen each time?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (12:38)", "body": "Cornwall had excellent views. More on that in Geo topic 1."}, {"response": 7, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (15:06)", "body": "Just saw the link off my main page for the first time. Nice idea, but what COULD go there? Wolf, where do you always come up with these wonderful ideas? I'm really envious!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (15:21)", "body": "don't know if I'm that good, Wolf...it's a good idea, though..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (15:59)", "body": "your great, wer!! probably have to make a table or something. can yapp do that?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (23:57)", "body": ""}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (04:52)", "body": "Go, wer!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (05:41)", "body": "Yippieh! Go, cawboay! Ride de bronco!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (10:06)", "body": "sometimes I wonder if that would be easier..."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (14:16)", "body": "well, at least you know we believe in you, wer!!!!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (14:23)", "body": "yep, that's where the pressure comes in...*grin*"}, {"response": 16, "author": "moulton", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (15:55)", "body": "Post a quotable quote from a good discussion."}, {"response": 17, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (16:31)", "body": "possible...one of us would have to come up with one, of course, and who knows how long it would take the rest of us to agree that it was, in fact, quotable...(and, ratthing usually turns those into topics in screwed...)"}, {"response": 18, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Aug 17, 1999 (09:59)", "body": "*cackle* (laughing at the clarity of the ridiculousness in the reality of that statement)"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 17, 1999 (14:57)", "body": "...or we could line 'um up and shoot 'um and put the photograph of someone active in Spring up there...a week? a day? a month? at a time? (running and hiding as quickly as I can...)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (16:12)", "body": "\"Hi, I'm *CENSORED*, I'm your host tonight!\""}, {"response": 21, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (17:19)", "body": ""}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (17:20)", "body": "Phew....talk about Freudian thingies..that was supposed to be 'forthwith'..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (18:45)", "body": "which reminds me, i was supposed to pose with a freudian slip for halloween, remember, wer?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (19:45)", "body": "...until he gets here to remember...just what exactly does one look like?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (20:09)", "body": "well, it was just a slip with the word \"freudian\" on it (but i never lost the weight i promised so it was a no-go)"}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (20:17)", "body": "...and slit up to your libido?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (00:19)", "body": "I do remember, Wolf..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (18:57)", "body": "have you forgiven me? *smile*"}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (19:06)", "body": "*sigh* Everywhere I seem to go anymore I find myself posting in private conversations... If I may make a suggestion? How about putting some of Riette's art in that big space (mine is huge now because I have joined just about every conference so I could more easily see them on telnet)...or an updating NOAA satellite picture of the hurricanes bearing down on Florida and the gulf coast?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:34)", "body": "hmmm..."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (16:41)", "body": "Is that a definite hmmm...and may I quote you?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (01:00)", "body": ""}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (01:01)", "body": "Or even just 2 - the US and Europe..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (09:28)", "body": "now that's a coool idea :)"}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 2, 1999 (16:52)", "body": "Hey, Mike, thanks! I think it would look great, mho, of course... Now, to get the guy back in here who made the room for it in the first place..."}, {"response": 36, "author": "nandadulalbasak", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (04:39)", "body": "high ! welcome every body."}, {"response": 37, "author": "nandadulalbasak", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (04:40)", "body": "a thief has entered the room"}, {"response": 38, "author": "DEVILMANN366", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (05:43)", "body": "GIVE IT TO ME BABY GGFJNN"}, {"response": 39, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (11:59)", "body": "alrighty then...."}, {"response": 40, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (12:06)", "body": "Somebody new? Welcome to the show that never ends!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (12:49)", "body": "*laugh* we have been getting more and more 'post and runs' in the last few months! Glad you've decided to stick around Isabel!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (13:31)", "body": "I suggest having a webcam of the Spring server in main. It would appeal to the geek in me..."}, {"response": 43, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (17:10)", "body": ""}, {"response": 44, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (17:14)", "body": "Hey, one better - how about this: 4 weather maps, and a webcam not of the server box, but of the server's SCREEN, where there's load, free RAM, etc. displayed by some diagnostics tool... That way, we would have all continents' weather, plus current condition of the SPRING, so to speak! Hah, whaddya say, matey? VIRTU-WEATHER!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 8, 1999 (23:04)", "body": "Sounds Great, Alexander. My son has them as desktop for his computer each updating every few minutes ... plus a few EQ sensing maps which also update. It is fun to watch! Now, How do I get the maps to whoever puts them there (or they can snitch the ones off my Goe(Weather)14 topic. Just copy the url from the map there...!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 9, 1999 (09:43)", "body": "I'm going to start running my Whole Life Expo videos on the main page. That page does need something. A makeover?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Sep 9, 1999 (12:50)", "body": "The Spring weather (=inside the box) and the continental weather maps oughta do the job... Don't tweak too many switches at a time."}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 9, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "Sounds good (was not advocating the mass of info on David's desktop)...now, how do we get them up there?!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 9, 1999 (21:07)", "body": "and where is my animal conference? *smile*"}, {"response": 50, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 9, 1999 (22:06)", "body": "An important message, we're at 99% disk capacity on this machine, if you have mail you can delete, files you can clear out, etc. we have other servers avaialble with lots of disk space. Delete old mail, delete any large files you don't need. Thanks!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 9, 1999 (23:41)", "body": "Terry, how do we know how much space we are using? I do not think there is any mail in my inbox, and I cannot access it in any case. I just have Autumn's and Stacey's pix plus a few posted in Geo, I think!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 10, 1999 (11:31)", "body": "Here's the mail folder: It's in /var/mail I can delete your mail if you give me the ok and forward it in the future to whatever address you choose. bash$ cd /var/mail bash$ ls -l total 22562 -rw------- 1 aabdula user 7497 Nov 29 1998 aabdula -rw------- 1 abd user 409 Jan 26 1997 abd -rw------- 1 achea bbs 1929 Jan 15 1997 achea -rw------- 1 adelyne user 1833 Nov 25 1998 adelyne -rw------- 1 adultstory user 77809 Nov 21 1996 adultstory -rw------- 1 alice user 23997 Oct 28 1998 alice -rw------- 1 ally www 655 Oct 28 1998 ally -rw------- 1 alweeda user 0 Oct 27 1996 alweeda -rw------- 1 amcgee bbs 4700 Sep 6 1998 amcgee -rw------- 1 amurray user 1154 Sep 4 1997 amurray -rw------- 1 amy user 55184 Feb 7 02:35 amy -rw------- 1 amy2 user 251644 Jul 17 10:25 amy2 -rw------- 1 anna user 0 Oct 3 1996 anna -rw------- 1 anneh user 4605 Sep 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mirmir 806 steven 806 sysop 804 nike 802 dacard 763 ferror 703 ces 693 ally 655 abd 409"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 10, 1999 (23:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 55, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 12, 1999 (15:22)", "body": "and mine to mswolf68@hotmail.com and how can i go back and get rid (or change to a link) some of the barbie pics i have posted?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 13, 1999 (11:40)", "body": "You'll have to get me, wer, or ratty to do it or become a system administrator as we don't have a go back and edit feature."}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 13, 1999 (13:31)", "body": "Cannot Wolf use the scribble command to delete the Barbie pictures? She could then post the links and eliminate the excess space on the hard drive."}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (09:03)", "body": "She could do that, scribble then repost the new links."}, {"response": 59, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (18:21)", "body": "oh, is this a hint or something? *grin* how do i scribble? (and terry, did you get my email concerning my password and stuff?)"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (19:25)", "body": "I shall email you about it, OK?! as soon as I get off telnet, that is...*smile*"}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (19:45)", "body": "I did, wolf and I'll get to that soon. Right now I'm battling a downed server, barton.spring.net! Don't like it when these things go down."}, {"response": 62, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (19:52)", "body": "I just forwarded you some ancient Email from your Barton Springs ISP. If, for no other reason than to let you know it was down. Thanks for taking care of the scribble information."}, {"response": 63, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (22:48)", "body": "can you delete my spring.net email address? this way, i don't get duplicate junk mail in my forwarded address?"}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (23:35)", "body": "Terry can...Are you gonna get anything from this storm out there now? There are three Droolians in Florida in various hiding places trying to stay dry and intact. It's gonna be a long night!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (08:12)", "body": ""}, {"response": 66, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (12:39)", "body": "floyd is supposed to hit nc in the morning. he's calmed down to 140 mph winds, but i can't believe he's 600 miles wide! we won't get anything out of this one, marcia...."}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (17:16)", "body": "Lucie is between DisneyWorld and another theme park (near Orlando), Lidya is in Tallahassee, and MoonDreams is in Miami. I was in contact with Moon through IM just now and her comment after I asked her how she was (and that you had asked about the Florida Drooleurs) was, \"Thank Terry, he's so sweet.\" Her report was they lost only one tree. No other problems. Anyone we know in the Carolinas?"}, {"response": 68, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (17:22)", "body": "I am off to hunt Droolians in Carolinas and report back. If I am going to pray to a Higher Power about this, I might as well be specific!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (21:17)", "body": "a friend of mine at patrick afb has returned to work after being evacuated to orlando..."}, {"response": 70, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (03:18)", "body": "Why was he evacuated to orlando?"}, {"response": 71, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (12:18)", "body": "lots and lots of stormy weather..."}, {"response": 72, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (21:21)", "body": "hurricane floyd is what happened and to new jersey and north carolina..."}, {"response": 73, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Jul 23, 2002 (21:00)", "body": "This seems like a good topic to put this one, considering it's about the main Spring page.... Terry, When are you planning on fixing the main page so that it shows up with Netscape 4.x? Kind of confusing when you send people to spring.net and all they see is a Google search box. Could you undo whatever change you last made?"}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (09:45)", "body": "Do you want to copy source, revise it and send me back a new page to post Karen, I've tried different fixes but I don't have Netscape 4.x to test with here."}, {"response": 75, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (11:45)", "body": "I don't know how to fix it. But whatever change you last made to the main page rendered it unviewable for Netscape."}, {"response": 76, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (14:21)", "body": "I added a google search section at the very bottom of the page, I'll try removing it or changing it."}, {"response": 77, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Aug 2, 2002 (19:11)", "body": "Ann has fixed the main page and uploaded it to: http://www.spring.net/home5.htm It loads even better than it did before; the columns and pics don't overlap each other anymore. Thumbs up!!"}, {"response": 78, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 5, 2002 (10:10)", "body": "I'm going to swap in a new main page that Ann did today sometime. Let me know if it works on your Netscape browsers."}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 21, 2003 (00:23)", "body": "(I liked William's best...)"}, {"response": 80, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 30, 2003 (11:33)", "body": "We have to keep changing to keep current. Did you notice all the new \"flavors\" we have? Vanilla, pistachio, bubblegum? Anyone?"}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 16, 2005 (20:04)", "body": "not really. Whenever I come in that way I am on a mission to get something corrected or to get back to where I belong. I can't imagine flavors. I can't even imagine thinking them up. I guess there are many things I will never know. Meanwhile I am getting ready for a really great weekend in Frankfort doing some historical archaeology."}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 16, 2005 (20:45)", "body": "That's history. Not doin' that anymoe."}, {"response": 83, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 17, 2005 (18:13)", "body": "sort of like the scented lunch boxes and other assorted imported plastics a few years ago for kids? The test of time is Spring like it is. The good stuff never goes out of style. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 66, "subject": "We need more conferences like drool!", "response_count": 46, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (12:55)", "body": "How about a Furtw\ufffdngler conference? It would certainly make for a bit of controversy. Apparently there is a huge Japanese community of Furtw\ufffdngler fans. But I don't have a clue where to find them."}, {"response": 2, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "Or how about a 20th century History conference? There are alot of World War 1 and 2 freaks out there - me included - and alot of other mega interesting things happened in this century. It is what most historians specialize in. And it should be fairly uncomplicated to find people to take part."}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (13:14)", "body": "Please, Riette, no! You don't want this place rushed with militaria fanatics, and the like, do you? Expanding through Historic Epochs generally sounds good, though. Until now, the only thing available is for middle age, right? How about recruiting more artists? Everybody could be lured by the chance to get their stuff posted without trouble, and get their own topic in an Artists conference?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (19:16)", "body": "I understand the need for a Furtw\ufffdngler conference...or topic, anyway. I have just about all of his recordings...with the Amsterdam Concertgebow ... We need to patronize the conferences we have now. Go in and read the new posts and see what interests you. I try to get all over the place (yes, I know...and bore everybody in the process)...and some have just poked noses into Geo and have not entered the Volcano topic or the gems ones...all are interesting, but are they that off-putting? I should nave named them EARTHQUAKE!!!! and ERUPTION!!!! rather than seismology and vulcanism...oh well! (climbing down off my soap box...)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (22:10)", "body": "Okay, there needs to be set up a history conference with Riette and Alexander as hosts, right?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (22:15)", "body": "It is the middle of the night for Europe...wait a few hours and they will answer you..."}, {"response": 7, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (03:51)", "body": "All history sounds great to me, Conf Admin. I'm interested in all history, and it will be cool to look at it at every possible angle - whether that be art, music, philosophy or militia (which DO6ES play a big role in history, whether we like that or not) from the particular period. I'd love to be host, but my knowledge is pretty much limited to the 20th century, so I'll have to rely on freaks of other periods to help out. Alexander, are you one of those???"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (16:22)", "body": "I will be delighted to post a lot in there. If I could have figured a way to make a living at it, I would have majored in History - but I did not make a living at what I studied, anyway, so I just took lots of history for my electives."}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (16:26)", "body": "My knowledge is mostly concentrated on the Middle Ages, (Archaeologically, earlier than that) up through the Reformation. Most especially, Britain."}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:09)", "body": "Sounds great! Stacey, Wolf, Autumn? How stand things with you and history?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:45)", "body": "ummm... i like pieces and bits facsinated with Pompei, really enjoy medical historical information, World War history... I do not resemble a 'history buff' but I have no real aversions... (how was that for politically correct?!) BTW... I'm concerned about Autumn... has she washed away??"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:51)", "body": "Any have a phone number or email for her? Hope she's high and dry."}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (18:45)", "body": "moorehdg@erols.com"}, {"response": 14, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (11:01)", "body": "As requested, history is now up and running with Riette and Alexander sharing host duties. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/history/all"}, {"response": 15, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (15:46)", "body": "Thought provoker: Aren't there some conferences that should be deleted?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (15:58)", "body": "Suggest some."}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:05)", "body": "He's not gonna say Geo, is he? I am a one-woman band in there and trying ever so hard to make a go of it...short of hijacking people to post in there. Very discouraging, but now I am part of SpringArk and working on stuff for History. Please don't delete Geo!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:13)", "body": "Let's start with things that have had NO responses. I saw some when I put History on my hotlist, like Farraway."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:16)", "body": "Yup - just noticed a few myself. Has anyone ever posted in ViridianCuria?"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (16:35)", "body": "farraway is Mike Griggs thing. We'd have to check in with him about nuking it."}, {"response": 21, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:13)", "body": "And ViridianCuria is an Alexander project. What about these? austentest eff hammer hoa newtest nh song"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:35)", "body": "So Sorry, Alexander...I had forgotten..."}, {"response": 23, "author": "infospryte", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:46)", "body": "And maybe these confs, as well: deeper modjane peacemaker"}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:48)", "body": "Modjane and peacemaker were discussed previously as possible dead conferences. Deeper...don't recognize!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:50)", "body": "restricted access..."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (17:59)", "body": "...ah!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 30, 1999 (21:01)", "body": "All those can get nuked."}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (02:13)", "body": "A thing with restricted access that nobody posts in??? How restricted can access possibly get???"}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (13:01)", "body": "curious, huh?!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (13:09)", "body": "Totally. It's like horse pretending to be a cow, but refusing to moo."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (21:59)", "body": "*laugh*"}, {"response": 32, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (16:23)", "body": "LOL! I missed you guys!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (16:23)", "body": "LOL! I missed you guys!"}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (16:30)", "body": "Probably about as much as we missed you...*smile* Isn't it amazing how we can be away for a while and drop something relevant into the discussion as soon as we return?! We must think along the same lines...!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (17:18)", "body": "We don't miss a beat, girl!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (17:33)", "body": "Right on! *hugs*"}, {"response": 37, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:12)", "body": "ok, i'm here. maybe we should delve into the realm of video games like pokeman and nintendo. all i know is the kids around here can't seem to shut up about pokeman and the cartoons. my son gets out of bed an hour early to catch the show!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:13)", "body": "and autumn, we're so glad you're safe! *hugs*"}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:24)", "body": "Oh man...I can't help you at all, Wolfie...never even seen what these games/shows look like...No one in that age group around me!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:31)", "body": "pokeman is along the lines of sailor moon--the japanese animation thing."}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:39)", "body": "Yeah...I've seen the pics of the pokeman stuff, but that is absolutely all I know about it...Help!!!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:41)", "body": "well, if we start a conference for those things, please don't make me host, i'm clueless, really!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:42)", "body": "make that two of us..."}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (16:16)", "body": "I need help and/or suggestions for attracting people to Geo Conference. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all What do I need to do besides Shanghai them and chain them to the topics until they give it a chance? It is a neat place. Cool topics like volcano eruptions and jewels and ecology with attendant photos and graphics and weather maps which update automatically - for all parts of the world! I just added two new topics in hope that it might attract some traffic: Caves and other Subterranean Features http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/19 Introductions and Suggestions http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/20"}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 13, 1999 (09:21)", "body": "Find related websites and get the webmasters to post direct links to your conference. Grab the url and send it to them ina press release email."}, {"response": 46, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 16, 1999 (00:29)", "body": "We tried to find the perfect webring and succeeded. When we tried to register, we were told it was locked. I have not seen one as good as the one we wanted...and still looking. 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I did not get any spam, till this year - actually a few monts ago was the first, and the \"remove me from the list\" email addresses on mine do not work - they come back to haunt me, as well. I also get some porno ones...Yippee for me...from women tho think I am a man or seriously gender warped. I will try to put a spam filter on my email, but they are clever and can seem to get around it easily enough. I am sure I have at least one of each of your messages, besides several companies who will help me get the inside scoop in anybody (did they know to email me because their nefarious methods were used on me by someone else?!) Humbug!!!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (20:21)", "body": "How come I don't get cool spam like that? All I get are frivolous forwards from people who are too dumb to know what email is really for--they flood my school email account, which I generally reserve for school-related things, and it makes me furious! (Who let the country bumpkins have email, anyway?) I always get those ridiculous chain-letters (\"Hey Maw, we can send chain letters an' it don't cost so much! We's gonna be rich!\") that say that if I don't send it to 20 people, I'm going to be hit by a b s, or my true love is going to killed by a tribe of indigenous Amazons, or I'm going to miss out on an opportunity to get a check for $500 from Microsoft because they're doing an email track. What a bunch of garbage!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (20:52)", "body": "Amy sweetie, you want me to forward it to you when I get it? Got a bunch waiting for final destruction in my trash bin - just ask and it will be yours! Got those chain mails too. Pox on both their houses!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (20:55)", "body": "You know, those return this to xvx@$%#@$ and we will remove you from the mailing list never works - even that comes back to me as undeliverable!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (21:11)", "body": "I know--the same thing has happened to me. What a racket!"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (21:21)", "body": "Ya sure you don't want me to spam your inbox? (Sounds lewd!) Last vchance before I send them to cyber-oblivion...!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (21:24)", "body": "Sorry, m'dear...too late. Did not want to chance leaving them overnight to multiply on their own...*grin*"}, {"response": 30, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (22:51)", "body": "Alas; I guess I'll just have to get some meat by-product on my own. *grin*"}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (23:06)", "body": "...and some seaweed and rice and make Musubi - the best way to deal with Spam."}, {"response": 32, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (23:10)", "body": "Ech! I think I'd eat Spam before I'd eat seaweed--I'll bet it tastes like the algae that used to grow on the bottom of my wading pool when I was little! (Or the stuff out of the aquarium.)"}, {"response": 33, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (23:13)", "body": "Yack!!! You ate that?! Sheesh! There are lots of different flavors to seaweed. Most edible are tender and slightly iodine-flavored...but tasty and nice and yummy with rice and Spam..."}, {"response": 34, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (23:17)", "body": "No, I didn't eat it! But my sister and I didn't care how grimy and bacteria-infested our pool was--we were going to swim as long as the sun was shining. So we ended up swimming in some pretty nasty greenish water, and of course the taste of that fills up your nose and mouth--ugh, it gives me the willies and makes my stomach turn over just thinking about it!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (23:21)", "body": "Little kids!!! (...where were your parents, she asked as she know full well the fish tank was not part of the menu...) I can still taste the lead white paint on my crib in which I slept till I was four years old. Maybe that is why I am like this *lol*"}, {"response": 36, "author": "Irishprincess", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (23:30)", "body": "My dad was asleep because he worked nights, and my mom had a houseful of kids that she babysat. It was always very hectic in the summers, and I think she was happy to have us out of the house, even though it meant putting a lot of Noxema on my sunburns and listening to me moan about them!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (23:39)", "body": "You turned out OK, so they did something right - and so did you *smile*"}, {"response": 38, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (11:14)", "body": "Canned Spam Is On House's Plate (11/ 3/99; 6:00 PM EST) By Mary Mosquera, TechWeb WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Unsolicited commercial bulk e-mail has mushroomed beyond being a nuisance and threatens to bog down the usefulness of Internet communications, experts told lawmakers on Wednesday. A House Commerce Committee panel considered several bills to restrict spam and give consumers and ISPs more control over the junk mail that burdens their computers and networks. Congress failed to pass spam legislation last year because of constitutional concerns over free speech. Lawmakers who introduced this year's bills say they strike a balance between business and First Amendment rights. Spam overburdens computer networks, costs ISPs resources, invades consumer privacy, and sometimes promotes fraud, a Federal Trade Commission official told the lawmakers. The bills -- the Unsolicited Electronic Mail Act, the Can Spam Act, and the E-mail User Protection Act -- do not ban spam, but restrict its anything goes status. Typical of the legislation, ISPs may establish privacy policies and have the right to decline to carry the bulk commercial e-mail. Businesses would have to gain the recipients' permission to solicit them or let consumers opt out of spam. And the spammer would have to list an accurate return address to the receiver. Legislation is unnecessary as businesses, realizing that consumers must trust e-mail communications if e-commerce is to flourish, promote efforts and technology that promote consumer choice, said Jerry Cerasale, vice president of government affairs at the Direct Marketing Association, a trade association for advertisers. The group launched an e-mail preference service, called e-MPS, last week, which lets individuals remove their e-mail addresses from marketing lists. Well-known manufacturers and retailers seldom send unsolicited commercial e-mail, the FTC said after analyzing two million pieces of spam forwarded to it from consumers. \"Giving consumers the ability to choose the information they receive over the Internet -- known as permission-based marketing -- seems likely to create more confidence in its content and in the sender,\" said Eileen Harrington, associate director of marketing practices at the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection. The FTC said a lot of spam is deceptive. \"Fraud operators have seized on the Internet's capacity to reach literally millions of consumers quickly and at a low cost through unsolicited commercial e-mail,\" Harrington said. The FTC is monitoring spam that is forwarded to it, bringing legal action against scams, and educating the public. It found the most popular scams via bulk e-mail were get-rich-quick business opportunities, offers to sell bulk e-mail addresses, chain letters, and work-at-home opportunities. ISPs bear the cost of unsolicited bulk e-mail, said John Brown, co-founder and president of iHighway.net, an Albuquerque, N.M., ISP. Spam uses transmission time and disk space, and as e-mail increases, ISPs must upgrade their servers to store and process more. IHighway processes about 350,000 e-mails monthly, with about 10 percent being spam, including messages trying to get the user to pornographic sites, he said. Customers call and complain. \"Unsolicited e-mail steals services and time from my company,\" Brown said. Spam costs about $1,300 a month for the small provider. ISPs are caught in the position of not wanting government to crimp emerging technologies, but at the same time wanting to protect themselves from those who misuse technological resources. \"If we do not work to stop this problem soon, e-mail and other forms of Internet communications may be reduced in their usefulness,\" Brown said. He urged that Congress craft a law that allows consumers and businesses to recover losses incurred because of spam. \ufffd 1998 CMP Media, Inc."}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (11:23)", "body": "Alexander, you brightened my day. The home of the biggest source of Baloney is complaining about Spam. That is amazing in itself. The only difference between the two is that they use the franking privilege and snail mail to spam my mailbox around election time, and the others use my inbox online. Neither of them is returnable! I resent the fact that it is costing me $1300 a month to deal with it (I am not so naive that I believe the ISPs are absorbing the costs.)"}, {"response": 40, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (03:07)", "body": "DATE: 22 Nov 99 9:08:29 PM FROM: cri***@eastmail.com SUBJECT: Q.& A. ATTENTION NETWORKERS! Q. What's the shortest route between you and a 7 figure annual income? A. This FREE video. Learn how they are doing it!! 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Froeliche Weinachten, Herr Schuth!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (00:39)", "body": "I think I owned a tiny bit of ACEN for a while if it's a NASDAQ stock, went nowhere as I recall. Man, I missed the big one: Linux Systems or VA Systems or whatever, went up 10 times. In a day or two."}, {"response": 50, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "You and a lot of other people including me. Of course, You could have had a huge block of Xerox which plummeted yesterday...but I did not have that, either."}, {"response": 51, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (05:59)", "body": "Neither did I... Merry Holiday season, folks!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (05:59)", "body": "From: Subject: Do you like the net? Date: Thu, 23 Dec 99 02:24:21 GMT Don't Be Left Behind! Become an Internet Consultant. Work from home in your own business! Fun, and easy to start! 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I am getting hungry just thinking of the fragrance of the place!.)"}, {"response": 59, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (04:39)", "body": "(hehe!)"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:40)", "body": "I have not heard from him since so he is happy and being fed really excellent food. With Mother and Daughter working their way to his heart, does he stand a chance of escaping? Not that he'd want to. He is one really happy guy!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (06:33)", "body": "(lucky, too, methinks. Hope he's not served the \"dish of the day\" - SPAM!) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 05:21:40 -0500 From: jdint***@yahoo.com Subject: Are You Ready? Hi there, Let me introduce you to your RESOLUTION SOLUTION! I am just ONE of more than 26 Million People who have achieved PERMANENT Weight Loss! These products are Safe & Natural, and contain No Stimulants. They are recommended (and used) by Doctors all around the World! 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Call: xxx-xxx-xxxxx porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 68, "subject": "Austen and Bronte - is there an Afterlife?", "response_count": 39, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 14, 1999 (20:40)", "body": "Lenzi arrived in bronte today and writes in the introduction: Welcome to the bronte conference. This file may be edited by a fairwitness. 1 newresponse item 64 items numbered 1-68 You are a fairwitness in this conference. You have mail. Ok: r Item 1 entered Wed, Jul 9, 1997 (15:42) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry) introductions 1 new of 37 responses total. Topic 1 of 68: 'introductions' Resp 37 of 37: Lenzi (Lenzi) Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (19:19) 3 lines Hello...I've been looking for something like this and have only come across a discussion page which was populated by a massive group of high schoolers looking for help because they hadn't read Jane Eyre for school. Now, after my initial glee in finding this conference, I am wondering how active this site is. It appears there have been no entries for quite a while. I hope it is merely a temporary lull... I am very enthusiastic about the Brontes and have read all I could get my hands on. Until recently I had concentrated on the works of C.& E. and their bios but I have ordered Anne's novels and I'm excited about discovering something of the more forgotten sister. Has anyone read \"A Chainless Soul\" by Katherine Frank? I'm in the middle of it. She proposes that Emily was anorexic. Although there is a considerable amount of conjecture throughout the book, I felt that she might have something there. I think if it is a truth, it was not the kind of self mutilation arising from low self esteem which plag es some of our young women in this day, but probably sprang from her passionate need for control, esp. when she was placed in situations in which she was away from home, away from her usual liberty. Does anyone have thoughts on this? I'm so glad I found you all!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 14, 1999 (23:02)", "body": "Until just recently Bront\ufffd was going strong through the aid of a diligent Charlotte, as I recall. There will always be lovers of the three ladies who lived such short and sheltered lives on the Yorkshire moors. I will try to enter the conversation if no one else steps forward - there is just so much of me to spread around, and at 116 pounds, that does not spread very far! Hang in there Lenzi...I shall return!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 14, 1999 (23:04)", "body": "Might this topic be better served in Books or linked to Books Conference?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (00:40)", "body": "Sure I'll link this to books."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (00:50)", "body": "Well, I got it done on the second try."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (13:18)", "body": "Splendid! Now it should attract the Austen and Bront\ufffd admirers amongst us! Thanks, Terry!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (13:38)", "body": "If we can figure out why they left and how to reattract them."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (14:59)", "body": "I'll go rattle some cages in Drool and find out."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (08:42)", "body": "Rattle gently."}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (18:13)", "body": "*whispering* who is austen again? i mean, the name is familiar but why has left my mind (for some reason, all i can think of is julia austin, a local dj *grin*)"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (18:21)", "body": "Jane Austen wrote Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, Emma , and a whole bunch other good books on the lives and times she lived in. She was Aunt Jane to a large contingent of family but never married. Probably could not find a Darcy, either *grin*"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (18:24)", "body": "Terry, I shall - I was Droolian and Firthian before I became aware of life as it really is on The Spring. I shall be most gentle and genteel about my activities there, as always...*smiling diplomatically*"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (09:37)", "body": "With the activity in our http://www.atlantea.com website, I am really hoping to pump things up here as a stomping ground for poets, writers and aficianados of fine classic works. I am using the success of authoress M J Rose as a starting point for the impending marketing I'll be doing for atlantea.com, she made it on the Amazon charts and got her book accepted by the big publishers purely byh guerilla marketing on the net, http://www.mjrose.com is the url I believe. She even sells a marketing kit. We might take some pointers from her in getting these areas popular."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (09:42)", "body": "never heard of her or atlantea, think i'll check it out...."}, {"response": 15, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (09:44)", "body": "the atlantis graphics are great. the wording and everything makes you want to stay and check it out."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (10:00)", "body": "Roger Didio is the guy doing it, and it has some potential for a collaborative Spring - Atlantea project. Roger and I have been on the phone a lot the last few days. He's in NY."}, {"response": 17, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (21:45)", "body": "i didn't go through all the links there but is it an interactive book? (that's the feel i get anyway). i think it's a great!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (18:41)", "body": "It is interactive, and I need to keep talking with Roger. The tentative plan is at http://www.spring.net/atlantea but I need to scale it down and rework it."}, {"response": 19, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (16:41)", "body": "Austen.com is blowing away spring.net in the charts, moving to a solida first place with huge stats."}, {"response": 20, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (17:02)", "body": "-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analog Report Output -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Web Server Statistics for austen.com Program started at Sat-22-Apr-2000 17:50. 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It is nice that they are so busy....but....!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (17:15)", "body": "No buts. It's great news that austen is doing so well. I hope it continues to grow. Maybe we can support it via pledge drive, if not maybe by banner ads and click throughs. Though I want to be careful about this and consider everyones feelings about keeping it pure like it is now."}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:31)", "body": "You're gonna have to convinve me why I need to support austen.com..."}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:39)", "body": "Wish I knew why all of this noise about Austen.com is making me feel like a, unwanted child with a conference which deserves better...*sigh* Guess it is my problem, not yours or Ann's. I do as well as I can...with what I have..."}, {"response": 25, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (02:34)", "body": "You're doing great, and I'll help you move forward with your conference as much as I can, Perhaps you should consider a dedicated domain name and get in Front Page 2000 authoring. It's not a big deal to get started."}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (12:26)", "body": "I seem to attract people from other conferences (as Drool and Austin, for example) and if I were separate, new readers would not be aware of Geo, would they? Not sure what the advantage of having it as a separate entity. I will be delighted to see your posts there. It is doing ok, but it could certainly stand a man's voice in there from time to time."}, {"response": 27, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (14:46)", "body": "What's hot in geo right now?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (16:23)", "body": "topic 24 - Beyond Earth (space, stars, planets), topic 27 Geo Archaeology, topic 28 Geo mythology (creation myths from all cultures and religions), topic 4 Gaia, topic 14 Weather (linked to News), just about all of them, actually. Just created two new ones. Geothermal (geysers, etc) and and Geo Mysteries (for the far out from Loch Ness monster to middle earth and crop circles - the far-out of the Geo conference) At any time, the two gem topics get hot (8 for inorganic and 18 for oceanic - pearls / coral, amber, and ivory)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (16:25)", "body": "I am always open to suggestions for new topics. Geo's co-creator was gonna create at least one...but...*sigh* Terry's Bioregions has gotten heavy traffic from time to time."}, {"response": 30, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (18:29)", "body": "geothermal is hot by definition. Gems are an interesting topic. Post some things in the new pointers topic. I've got geo on the main page. As conversations heat up I'll try and post them to the main page. If I miss somehting point it out to me. Ann is pumping up the pledge drive on austen.com. The spring is really a family of websites. and right now, it looks like austen.com and not spring.net is the leader."}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (18:34)", "body": "OK...Thanks for that! I will keep you posted, although that cleverly-devised confifty page will give you a good idea of what are the hot discussions (but you would have to web in to see it...) Brava, Ann! She'll do it! She has surmounted much larger obstacles than this."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (18:38)", "body": "I can post big long files too, but that is not what I think this is all about. I cannot compete with her on this playing field."}, {"response": 33, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (12:07)", "body": "Paul, Thanks so much for your input. The recruiting and curriculum team (Gregory, Adrienne, Ben, Tom and I) will certainly discuss this more, but B&N is very keen on literature courses. Gregory's out of town this week, but maybe we can all sit down next week to discuss your ideas further. Of course, Gregory will determine all of this since he's the big boss man... Thanks, Jan This is a sample of the emails I am getting in support of setting up a Jane Austen University in conjunction with Barnes and Noble. Anyone who is a part of austen.com please get in touch with me, I implore you for your help on this project which could become a milestone for us if it flies. I am going to need all the help I can get on this from our wonderful community of Jane Austen devotees."}, {"response": 34, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (12:09)", "body": "See the austen or the nh conference for me details, there's a cross linked topic there for Jane Austen University."}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (15:43)", "body": "Please check this out. It has such great potential and a very special creative way to use the post-graduate degrees in things Austen we all seem to have earned."}, {"response": 36, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (08:10)", "body": "Please get in touch with me if you have any ideas for courses we could run online and tie in with the Spring conferences. This may be the mmost important project the Spring has ever undertaken and is vital for our future growth. Please pass the word around about this. We're looking for courses based on topics in all our conferences and courses around the works of Jane Austen and her novels and adaptations. This will become a growing venture within the Spring with funding going to the community as a whole and the participants in the project. Scale of importance: Extremely high priority, urgent!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (19:06)", "body": "Some of the best minds on Spring are in Drool and they do not leave very often and will not see this posting of yours. Please put it on Porch 43 or somewhere in there...if not the linked topic..."}, {"response": 38, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (07:33)", "body": "Will put it there now."}, {"response": 39, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (07:37)", "body": "I hoping for a re-unification and re-dedication of purpose around building the Spring and Austen Universities. I am hoping folks in this community get involved, I'd like to see how many courses we can do and what the titles would be. I've asked Ann if she would mind doing a mock up sample page. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 69, "subject": "Moving the Spring to a new ISP - the end of colocation", "response_count": 170, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:13)", "body": "What do the members of the migration team do exactly, and must they be in Austin physically? If there is anything I can do and I am competent enough to do it, Speak and I am yours."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:16)", "body": "We're going to need Kaylene Thaler's help in migrating our conferences, she should be pretty reasonable about this since the servers we're moving to run the same OS, BSDI. Today, I was forced by Robert Ross to move both barton.spring.net and shop.spring.net out of the colocate facility. He was pretty mean spirited about it. These are not friendly folks, they are definitely reaping some bad karma right now. Mel Riser was the reason we were at DDC and he's left DDC for autoeloan.com, and a lot of other folks have left DDC because it's such an unpleasant scene. Robert would probably rip Mel to pieces if he could legally, he's so pissed off about Mel leaving. I could see that in his scary vibes today. So, as of now, we're running on www.spring.net (this machine) and access.spring.net where austen.com and firth.com live. I want to start moving all our sites to the new isp as soon as possible so we're out of DDC and harm's way. A reality check for y'all. I think we can come through this ok and have a lot less overhead. Babysitting hardware is something I would rather do less and I would rather focus more on growing community and creating great content. So this may be a blessing after all. We'll see."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:17)", "body": "They don't have to be here in Austin, Marcia, in fact, this means I don't even have to be in Austin. You know I don't even know the physical location of the new isp. What you can do is get familiar with the new isp and help with input as we progress down this road."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:20)", "body": "Alright. Ready and willing and all that good stuff. Is there a Url I could use or just how should I got about familiarizing myself? (feeling pretty ignorant aout now but eager to please)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:21)", "body": "There will be another topic opening with urls and technical details. This topic will be for broader questions and concerns."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:23)", "body": "To quote Morgan Freeman in Deep Impact, \"life will go on\"; that's how I feel, the Spring will go on."}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:23)", "body": "We are well shed of DDC...How could they treat a gentle man like you with such callousness. Onward!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:24)", "body": "We MUST go on. Wherever would I go?!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:37)", "body": "It's not against me specifically, I'm just getting backscatter of a lot of other frustrations they're having right now. That and they have to go after bigger customers. We're not big enough for them. The problem is that they're just mean spirited in general right now, and no one's going to get their attention unless they can flaunt a bunch of greenstuff in front to them. We're getting a \"great deal\" for a high profile business customer with our colocation rate, but the problem is that we're not some high profile, well heeled business. We're fairly nonprofit and make it on donations and on windfall domain name deals and a trickle of website hosting fees and clickthroughs. Mostly, I subsidize it and babsit the hardware."}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:42)", "body": "Ah, that is my whole point. You should have to do none of the subsidizing. I am sorry I got into the act a little late, but Whatever you need, let me know and I shall be out there squeezing blood out of turnips or whatever I must do for you and Spring. What bad vibes they are sending out will come back to haunt them. You do not need that sort of thing going on in your life."}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (20:06)", "body": "wait, what happened to that other deal we had been talking about? i can't remember all of it right now....."}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (20:19)", "body": "Moving to Springfield? Yes, what happened, Terry?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (11:07)", "body": "The Springfield guys called and said the deal was still on, but not until March. I had been counting on them to do this Jan 1, 2000 and had made plans to move the gear to Springfield, but that's what Anthony Hopp is saying now. After all their overtures, I thought they were ready to move right away. But they pulled back at the last minute. So on to Plan C."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (17:22)", "body": "which is....put everything in the basement but the basics? *hugs* terry!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (18:40)", "body": "Terry, as I posted elsewhere, if you could give me some figures I will punch them into some kind of form and post on Drool anbd Springfolks...Please!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 26, 1999 (14:40)", "body": "OK I'll work them up. Basically, you don't want to know how much I'm in the hole right now and this venture."}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 26, 1999 (14:52)", "body": "Maybe that is what will get them to dig deeper. After all, as you fare so do we. Why would we not want to know. It is our problem as well as yours, you know! Please?! Or email me and I will tenderize it for them, but you need our help, do you not???"}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Dec 27, 1999 (10:06)", "body": "terry, tell us, i agree with marcia, if folks see how much it costs to keep this place up and running, they will dig deeper (and post the address again!)"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 27, 1999 (16:21)", "body": "Well, I just paid DDC.net $1288 plus another $433. That covers us for this month, Jan and Feb 2000. I hope we're on a lower cost setup after that, it remains to be seen whether digihost will work for us. It's still in the trial phase."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 27, 1999 (16:34)", "body": "I will do what I can, but I have been requested not to post the plea for money in Drool. (They probably support Spring more than any other conference does.) How can we get donations from colinfirth.com (3 deers) and austen.com? Do they support their part of this operation? If not, I'd suggest you put them offline until they do.(Terry is too nice to do that, of course)"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 28, 1999 (08:33)", "body": "Our donations have come in fairly well in the past and I'm sure folks will continue to do so, they are most appreciated. Our future is in ecommerce and I'm going to work toward pumping up our click throughs (eg. Visto) and ecommerce sites as a means to support this place. We need to keep growing and expanding, if we can do this, we can be successful as a community. I'm not going to cut any websites off or anything, we've always gotten donations though postive appeals and by providing a place for conversations."}, {"response": 22, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 28, 1999 (12:48)", "body": "and the address again?"}, {"response": 23, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 28, 1999 (13:32)", "body": "Send contributions to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758"}, {"response": 24, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Dec 28, 1999 (13:36)", "body": "Terry, If I send a \ufffd check can you cash it?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 28, 1999 (13:39)", "body": "Send contributions to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758"}, {"response": 26, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 28, 1999 (13:42)", "body": "Maggie, he can cash a check in any currency on planet Earth. Not sure about outer space, though. We encountered this question on the last fund drive and he had no problems. Thanks for asking!"}, {"response": 27, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Dec 28, 1999 (16:10)", "body": "most banks should be able to handle foreign currency, right? (and thanks, marcia, for making sure i got that address *grin*)"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (10:28)", "body": "It's really better if you can convert it before you send it. Does your bank have the ability to make an International Money order in US Dollars or can you help us out by making a credit card payment for austen.com? I'm trying to raise some immediate $$ to move firth.com, austen.com and to pay the Network Solutions fee on austen.com. If anyone wants to make a direct contribution they can pay for austen.com online with a credit card. You can do this here: https://payments.networksolutions.com/ Just type in austen.com It will give you a screen like this: Domain Name Invoice Number Amount Due austen.com 13796338 $35.00 Billing Contact Information Walhus , Paul Terry Phone: 512.303.4000 Fax: 512.303.3200 Spring Rt 2 Box 56R Austin , TX 78612 UNITED STATES US Then select \"Make Payment\""}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 29, 1999 (12:51)", "body": "Austen.com is now paid for."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (10:35)", "body": "Thank you!!!!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (17:20)", "body": "*******am posting this message here too********** Terry, there is definitely a problem out there. Possibly that named server situation and/or router problems. Some people can get in and many cannot. I've been in contact with our Drool bunch via our backup mailing service and encouraged them to try their ISP's other phone lines for alternative routing as worked for me (except for the austen.com areas). Do you need any other evidence than Marcia hasn't posted all day! ;-)"}, {"response": 32, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (17:21)", "body": "Can you give me the numerical address for the sites and I can tell people to try that?"}, {"response": 33, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (18:30)", "body": "yes, marcia has emailed me too about her probs getting onto the spring and asked for the numerical address. it's weird that some of us can get in and others cannot. does this have something to do with the new setup? (and marcia, dearie, you are so generous! i, too, want to thank you)"}, {"response": 34, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (18:53)", "body": "Hey! Why didn't you tell me this was going on (money raising)! I just happened to stumble on this thread and found I didn't know anyting! The Austen.com folks paid the domain fee last year, and we were all prepared to do it again--Thanks Marcia!!! I do have a permanent link up on all of the Austen.com messages and message boards asking people to donate, but I also do try to have a couple of fund raisers each year as well. I'll post a request for funds tonight. Hopefully that will help (you'll get a check from me!) Is there anything more we can do, Terry?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:03)", "body": "Keep the contributions coming! We are experiencing a firestorm of sorts right now due to the premature move of our primary and secondary nameservers to their site. I sent them emails telling them to fix it. Because of this, I suggest you use ip addresses instead of domain names for the next day or so www.spring.net is 206.97.234.70 www.austen.com is 206.97.234.91 www.firth.com is 206.97.234.101 more at http://206.97.234.70/dns Sorry folks The digihost folks jumped the gun big time!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:05)", "body": "Again, firth is http://206.97.234.101 austen is http://206.97.234.91 www.spring.net is http://206.97.234.70"}, {"response": 37, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:24)", "body": "thanks terry. marcia says she tried the spring number and nothing is working, including ftp."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:48)", "body": "These numbers should work, I just emailed Marci, bless her heart."}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (20:58)", "body": "I hope marci@aloha.net is the right email address for her."}, {"response": 40, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (21:44)", "body": "I made sure I corrected it as soon as I noted that all the emails were scrambled. It is, indeed!"}, {"response": 41, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (21:44)", "body": "I actually couldn't get through to Austen.com using the numeric address, but I can get through using \" http://austen.com\" . Strangely, \" http://www.austen.com \" doesn't work! (last time I checked, I got a \"access.spring.net\" message.)"}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (23:02)", "body": "Have only gotten through to spring and that only on Spring...*sigh*"}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (10:33)", "body": "We worked on this last night. http://austen.com works alright, I just tried that."}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 31, 1999 (13:01)", "body": "I just tried it as well. Netscape says it cannot find it. *sigh*"}, {"response": 45, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Jan 3, 2000 (13:33)", "body": "Terry: Any word from either Digihost or Network Solutions? Have the corrections been implemented?"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 3, 2000 (22:09)", "body": "Numerial ip will work on the web as well. First go to http://206.97.234.70 and click on say the last 50 responses. It will come up as http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin ... and you won't get the page. At this point go to the address box and change the www.spring.net to 206.97.234.70 and you will get through to the url. We need to let folks know this. Tell folks (via email or phone or however) that they just need to substitute 206.97.234.70 every time the www.spring.net appears in their address box of their browser. In the meantime, the Digihost folks have a solution and they're going to help us get back on track in the morning. I'll be on the phone to them early in the morning and try to get us moved over to their site. I know this is painful, and I hadn't planned on moving this soon. But now that we're in the throes of this accidental event, let's make the best of it and go ahead with the move. I'll get Kaylene to help get yapp moved and get with the system folks at digihost in the morning and the nuts and bolts of doing this. But in the meantime, it is possible to still use the spring on the web by substituting the ip address 206.97.234.70 for the words www.spring.net every time it comes up in the address box of your browser. Like I was telling Evelyn, who called a little while ago, ddc.net has priced us out of colocation so we have to make a move, I really don't have much choice. I think the direction I'm moving our servers, to virtual rather than metal boxes is the right thing to do. I know this works, because I'm doing this on a friends AOL right now. So please help spread the word and tell folks that life will go on, the Spring will go on and that this isn't the end, it's only the beginning. Keep the faith, we'll be ok!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 3, 2000 (22:11)", "body": "And yes, I've heard from Digihost by email and phone and we're getting things resolved. I'll be on the phone to Digihost in the morning on their 800 number. Feel free to call them and ask for a status update to let them know you care!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 3, 2000 (22:21)", "body": "Terry, I just emailed Heide, Evelyn and Karen then posted it on Springfolks which has just about every drool lady involved...I will continue to email others"}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 4, 2000 (13:59)", "body": "Terry, I am online in Windows...things are working just fine - not like greased lightning, but well enough for this refugee from telnet. I am delighted more than I can tell you. Ann, you're welcome for my paying for your domain name. Not, contribute to Terry in that amount for me, please...."}, {"response": 50, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 4, 2000 (16:30)", "body": "It Works With http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/porch/69.49 I arrived here from confifty...It is all fixed again. You cna't even guess how bad the withdrawal was from Spring we know and love. Geo's wallpaper is back and the lava buttons and now I can post the sunspot gif which is real time updating. Terry, any place you want me to post it so you can check for ionospheric disturbances and the like for Ham Radio???"}, {"response": 51, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 4, 2000 (16:33)", "body": "Terry, http:// www .austen.com still isn't a working URL, but http://austen.com is. Last time I checked the www. address, I got the mostly blank screen with \"access.spring.net\" on it. Any chance of getting that fixed? BTW, The Derbyshire Writers' Guild is going to be in an article in the New York Times some time this month, and I hope the site is actually working!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 4, 2000 (16:43)", "body": "Fantastic news, Ann! About DWG...and, you can consider my paying for your domain as a way of thanking you for enabling me and so many others by writing your tutorial for html. If'n you's like to see how well I did, just pop over to http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/ and see how well I did. Belated thanks for a job incredibly well done!!!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 4, 2000 (21:16)", "body": "Marcia, Geo looks like a cool place! I love that sort of stuff. I grew up watching Nova and Nature and Scientific American and all the nature shows I could find on TV. Fun stuff."}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 4, 2000 (21:22)", "body": "Ooooh good...mayhap you might find your way into Geo to post sometime. Yippee!!! Wait'll you see the updating sunspot solar image. You can watch it rotate and pulsate...Good stuff over there...!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Jan 4, 2000 (23:31)", "body": "Terry: Thanks so much for getting everything working again. I'm sure the process is not yet finished, but a couple of people have reported the same/strange problem. They can get to Spring and read the boards, but cannot login. They are rejected. They have tried both spring.net and the numerical addresses. This is what one wrote: I'm unable to log in; when I try, I get the URL not found message. If I manually type in what I think is the correct response URL but substituting the 206#s, it rejects my user name/password. Is this something that will work itself out? Or have some user data files been damaged? Thanks again for bringing Spring back to us."}, {"response": 56, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (07:30)", "body": "Hi there, Europe is back on - at least the mid-continental division... Now we only need to raise the island and mountain tribes, respectively. Terry - thanks for keeping things up & doing such a nice job about it!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (07:48)", "body": "Yea!! the URL http://www.austen.com is now working. Thanks Terry!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (12:35)", "body": "Sure, thanks everyone. The CEO of Digihost called and apologized this morning. I'm hoping these little minicrises will make us stronger and more unified as a community. The concerns show that folks care about our community and I'm glad to see this. We always pull together and weather the storms somehow."}, {"response": 59, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (13:55)", "body": "Waiddaminute, \"apologized\"? I'm a, uh, \"business\" man in a different market, and to me this translates into \"we still can make a buck out of him\". Watch your back, Terry!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "I'm stronger and believe in Spring more than ever. My telnetting skills improved (even though my typing did not), and I even got to teach a few the fine are of posting in DOS. We will be just fine...even if it is just you and me, Terry, and Alexander watching your back while others make the place prettier and ever more appealing."}, {"response": 61, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (15:08)", "body": "Hi, Glad it all getting sorted out. I got in fine using the numbers thanks to Marcia - but haven't need to change it for each conference, so something's working well. Thanks for all the hard work."}, {"response": 62, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (21:00)", "body": "Terry, Can you give us a little bit of status as to how the migration is going? I'm assuming it is not complete. Karen"}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (21:05)", "body": "I have heard from two Canadian Droolians who cannot get in yet."}, {"response": 64, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (22:02)", "body": "marcia, where's the sunspot pic? ann--love those smilies!!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (22:19)", "body": "You found it in Geo 24.41. I also posted it on Weather which is linked to news."}, {"response": 66, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jan 5, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "Yes, Cymbeline gets in via the numeric IPs, but has no images. Also, she isn't able to use any of our links because of the www.spring part. I've told her to manually adjust for the time being."}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 6, 2000 (00:09)", "body": "Where does she live? Is she Canadian, as well? I seem to have forgotten."}, {"response": 68, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Jan 6, 2000 (10:01)", "body": "In the US, Virginia to be exact. Mari still cannot login and was wondering if she should reregister (see question re: damaged user data files) and now I have a message from Aishling (UK) that she can't get in. Terry?"}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 6, 2000 (13:54)", "body": "Karen, are you getting in the usual way and having no trouble? I am having to use the numerical ip but I can get in. However, telnetting is much the swifter than switching the www.spring.net on each of the URL's . Humbug!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (09:47)", "body": "Is there a different place I should be posting my questions on the Spring migration?"}, {"response": 71, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (13:40)", "body": "This is the place, Karen. If anything pertinent comes up I will also post it in Inner for you if it does not appear that Terry is seeing it. I have noticed that spring is very slow this morning and we are still without graphics and ads...but the magic buttons are there...*grin*"}, {"response": 72, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (13:46)", "body": "Since you began asking Terry questions here he has been logged in on telnet at least once, but he is not entering the conferences, I think. I shall go back to telnet to see what I can discover."}, {"response": 73, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (14:22)", "body": "I went back into telnet and it is so slow-going that I had my connection cut off twice just trying to get through one time. There is a problem and as soon as Terry gets time to talk he will. Till then, I imagine he is up to his ears in alligators..."}, {"response": 74, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (18:04)", "body": "terry, i have to use the numbers now (started last night right after i posted some pics)...."}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (19:18)", "body": "I wrote to DigiHost and told them to be good to Terry and kind to us and they answered telling me to use the numerical ip's. No kidding. Oh well, at least they answer their email..."}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (19:23)", "body": "They even suggested I 'refresh' my browser and I mentioned (though not to them) that I dumped the caches enough that you'd think I was dosing them on prunes!"}, {"response": 77, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (21:13)", "body": "you've gotta dump the caches or the system will be slow!"}, {"response": 78, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (21:21)", "body": "Gotta keep them regular and slickery clean, huh!"}, {"response": 79, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (16:35)", "body": "Austen.com seems to be down again :-( (someone told me it is since 5pm yesterday) Is the migration actually taking place right now? Is that why it's down? Do we know the new IP #'s for the new servers?"}, {"response": 80, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (17:17)", "body": "www.spring.net is 206.97.234.70 www.austen.com is 206.97.234.91 www.firth.com is 206.97.234.101 Good luck, dear!!!"}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (17:19)", "body": "Let's make um hot links www.spring.net is http://206.97.234.70 www.austen.com is http://206.97.234.91 www.firth.com is http://206.97.234.101 Good luck, dear!!!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (18:23)", "body": "Oh Dear, Ann. Only firth.com works of those ip's I just posted. I tried to email you and everything was returned undeliverable. *sigh*"}, {"response": 83, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (20:05)", "body": "My Spring mail account seems to be down too. My main back-up e-mail is DWGuild@yahoo.com For some reason, the IP #'s haven't really been working at Austen."}, {"response": 84, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (20:11)", "body": "Ann, please go read Ray Lopez' comments in Drool: http://206.97.234.70/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/124.161 I know they don't work...and you can forget about access.spring.net...which is where all of my stuff is... Thnx for the update on your email address."}, {"response": 85, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 8, 2000 (23:44)", "body": "Just got back into Austen.com. It seems an intermittant problem, and like most people had little trouble getting in today--just me :-("}, {"response": 86, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (00:41)", "body": "I also had problems. Ray Lopez is helping Terry now...that is great news!"}, {"response": 87, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (10:07)", "body": "We'll get these things resolved by communicating and working with mike@digihost.com and ceo@digihost.com, the sysad and his manager respectively. Ray's input at this stage is invaluable. Our next step is to gain access to the site at digihost that they've set up for us. And then I need to know who will manage austen.com and firth.com so we can set up accounts for them to be the primary administrator for these sites. I also need to get repeater.org back up and running. I like the idea Evelyn had of forming a steering committee of hosts to work more closely together on the management of this community."}, {"response": 88, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (11:58)", "body": "Terry, as before, I'm the primary host of Austen.com. I don't think spring.net e-mail addresses are working at the moment (at least mine isn't), so if you need more info from me, I'll need an off-site address for you. Steering committee would be good. I'd be happy to participate. :-)"}, {"response": 89, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (14:48)", "body": "I'm getting in OK, but hotlinks aren't working - like mark all as read, just get a page unavailable notice."}, {"response": 90, "author": "Renata", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (16:52)", "body": "Terry, I guess I'm the only primary manager for www.firth.com. ;-/ What action is required, and when? Whatever it is, I hope we can do it within the next 2 days, more details in email."}, {"response": 91, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (17:13)", "body": "terry, i'd like some input so i can understand what's been going on, and where we stand... 1. When did the deal with Digihost get finalized? 2. what are the terms of this deal? 3. which of the spring servers are to be moved (www, access, and barton??)? 4. as of right now, where are these servers physically? 5. where will they be moving physically? 6. have IP addresses been changed for the Spring servers and all web sites hosted on spring servers? 7. if so, is all we lack the update to the DNS tables? 8. will we still have control over our DNS servers for spring.net? i know that is a lot of questions, but i am easily confused!!!!"}, {"response": 92, "author": "Renata", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (17:17)", "body": "Terry, I guess I'm the only primary manager for www.firth.com. ;-/ What action is required, and when? Whatever it is, I hope we can do it within the next 2 days, more details in email."}, {"response": 93, "author": "Renata", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (17:19)", "body": "Terry, what's your valid email address? It's urgent, I'll be computerless for a while soon."}, {"response": 94, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (17:30)", "body": "renate, try these emails for terry... springnet@briefcase.com springnet@palm.net"}, {"response": 95, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (17:31)", "body": "Use this one for Terry, Renate: springnet@briefcase.com"}, {"response": 96, "author": "Renata", "date": "Sun, Jan 9, 2000 (19:12)", "body": "Thank you all!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (04:04)", "body": "We're finally up on the new location, at least our index.html page. Though you still have to sometimes substitute 206.97.234.70 for www.spring.net to get in to some conference areas."}, {"response": 98, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (21:18)", "body": "we're up? will have to try my bookmark...."}, {"response": 99, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (19:38)", "body": "Still cannot ftp...and have to use my ip's to get around Spring...*sigh*"}, {"response": 100, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (07:39)", "body": "We're going to try and nail down the complete move this week. We'll have to work together on this. Once the conferencing is moved, the rest is just a matter of moving domains like firth.com and austen.com. Everyone should make sure they have *local copies* of their content so they can ftp them. Our new site will have users with ftp access, frontpage 2000 access and telnet access for root level administrators sharing a single account. I don't know yet if we can get additional telnet access."}, {"response": 101, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (11:18)", "body": "Terry, How much of the content of Austen.com will you be moving? Or is it all up to us? How long will we have to get the new site up and running before the DNS switch takes place? And, do you have any idea of a time-table for all of this? If I'm unable to get to the site from my home computer, it might be hard for me to do much work on things. Right now I am relagated to FTPing things, but I can't access anything through my browser."}, {"response": 102, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (14:51)", "body": "Looks like I'd better go hunt up the graphics I put on Geo as I did not save a copy of them but I do have the urls I believe...I hope...!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (17:47)", "body": "I'm in! I'm in! After about 4.5 days, I can finally log into Austen.com!!!"}, {"response": 104, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (19:13)", "body": "Whew! Finally! I am still yearning for my pretties like wallpaper and buttons. Not to mention updating maps and such. Congratulations, Ann! You are safely home!"}, {"response": 105, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 18, 2000 (09:29)", "body": "Locked out again from my home computer :( Seem to be able to get in from work, though."}, {"response": 106, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 18, 2000 (13:37)", "body": "Bummer! It almost sounds as though they are conspiring to keep you at the bluprints and drafting table longer than ever! This week....hope!"}, {"response": 107, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (22:40)", "body": "my bookmark still doesn't work and, is anyone else having this prob--in order to view any post listed in the \"last five responses\" i have to go to the topic in the conference list instead of clicking on the response i want to view. quirks!"}, {"response": 108, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jan 19, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "Yup! Same here. I have bookmarked all of the conferences with both the standard URLs and the numerical IP's...I need to get around so it was the only practical way to do it. Shall I email them to you?"}, {"response": 109, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (09:28)", "body": "The net must have propagated austen.com to your isp Ann. Let's get clear now and exactly who's going to ftp the stuff to the new site and set a date and time to do it. I want to make sure that you have a complete offline copy of the site(s) and are prepared to move it to the new site when I create it (which takes all of ten minutes). It's all a matter of timing at this point. Ray is going to be tarballing the conferencing stuff in /usr/bbs (see unix conference for explanation of \"tar\") and when this happens, the remainder of our server content will move quickly to the new site. DDC is making threatening noises again, wanting me to sign a ludicrously expensive colocation contract so we need to move as quickly as possible and not get blindsided by them again."}, {"response": 110, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan 20, 2000 (15:16)", "body": "Terry, I have a pretty slow internet connection, which makes it tough for me to download and upload over a thousand files--and that's the story archives alone. I would be at it for days. Do you have a faster way to do it? Also, I don't know how to go about transfering our message boards. I'd like to find a way to transfer them in their entirety--we could shut down Austen.com for a couple of days, and figure out how to do the transfer. I've already warned people that we might go down for a while. In a worst-case scenario, suppose I can lose all of the current messages on the boards and reset them to the beginning, but I still will need some time to get the CGI scripts running on the new machine. Of course, if I can't get to anything through my browser, I am very limited to what I can do."}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 21, 2000 (10:08)", "body": "We probably don't need to go down, and I'll handle ftping them over to the new site. The old one will just keep running till the new one kicks in. Give me a date and time to launch the new site and I'll ftp the files at the same time. And make the date and time known to all the folks who access the site via the site and email, letting them know we're going through a transition. The only problem will be that of propagation, some users will see it sooner than others because of the nature of how web sites propagate due to name changes."}, {"response": 112, "author": "springnet", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (00:17)", "body": "Hey, we're here at the new site! Who will be the first person besides me to post here! What works? And what doesn't work? Let us know!"}, {"response": 113, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (10:21)", "body": "Hi Terry I've posted at Drool. Seems to be working, but can you change the page specifications so that our Drool background and icons show up. They are in a directory called: spring.net/yapp-icons/drool I'd do it myself, but haven't a clue as to how to do it. Thanks much for all your help, Karen"}, {"response": 114, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (13:34)", "body": "I'm going to defer to William on this, as he's been doing this stuff all along, if he's too booked, I'll dive in to it. But he's pretty much been doing this all along."}, {"response": 115, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (16:02)", "body": "Terry, since you asked... Confifty does not work, and neither does 333. Otherwise, it looks great!"}, {"response": 116, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (20:10)", "body": "I asked Kaylene about this as well."}, {"response": 117, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 1, 2000 (20:24)", "body": "Mahalo! I miss it terribly..."}, {"response": 118, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (13:36)", "body": "Could we have have something like 11.111, too? Sometimes, when there's mucho traffic and you've bee off for a week, it might be handy..."}, {"response": 119, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (14:04)", "body": "Terry, I just found that I've become host in every conf I visit. No good juju. Please check if that's the default now for every user logged in... And take away the host rights I've acquired so unexpectedly, except for Music, InternationalConflicts, ViridianC. ..."}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (15:24)", "body": "Alexander, everyone is a host! I dread to think of the problems this could cause. Do you have an array of interesting buttons you never had before, as well? Don't use them, please! How odd that you do not have hostly powers on YOUR conferences! *sigh* We are not out of the proverbial woods, yet, I think!"}, {"response": 121, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (19:00)", "body": "Don't worry, I'll get Kaylene to address this."}, {"response": 122, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (20:08)", "body": "I would appreciate that tremendously...and sleep a lot easier, as well."}, {"response": 123, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 3, 2000 (21:38)", "body": "I did it!!! I really did it! I cleared my old directory and sent my stuff (some of it, anyway, over to my new directory which is bright and shiny and bookmarked on the web. Thank you ! Now, just to figure out how to put those images of Ree's paintings back onto the same response...I think I shall have to re-enter them as I cannot imagine doing so much with my limited editing skills via telnet. But, I am happy to have my directory back online. Mahalo plenty!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (06:28)", "body": "Frontpage 2000 has global search and replace."}, {"response": 125, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (17:54)", "body": "Correction: I have host privileges on all confs I'm host, PLUS a load more. I had no problem anywhere."}, {"response": 126, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (18:45)", "body": "OK...I'll try frontpage 2000 because I still do not know how to do relative vs absolute addressing...or whatever it was we are to know now...*sigh* Yup! Alexander. Don't play with the buttons, man! You'll give others bad ideas!"}, {"response": 127, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Feb 4, 2000 (19:00)", "body": "FP2000 *defaults* to relative addressing. It's the perfect beginner's website construction tool. And it allows you to work directly with html."}, {"response": 128, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Feb 6, 2000 (17:18)", "body": "I was just bug-reporting... No buttons frigging, I only updated the link in InternationalConflicts."}, {"response": 129, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Feb 8, 2000 (17:06)", "body": "I haven't checked everywhere, but looks like the Host issue has been fixed, huh, Terry? I am host on Drool, but not on Geo or Porch. How about everyone else? All straightened out. What about those three buttons? Have they been taken away from every registered user?"}, {"response": 130, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2000 (09:52)", "body": "I haven't really had the time yet to check in to these issues."}, {"response": 131, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:48)", "body": "I am fixing some weird rc issues that have been keeping some conferences from using their approved buttons and backgrounds. If any odd issues arise because of this, please post them here."}, {"response": 132, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:57)", "body": "Thank you. Other than stripping me of my marble, and the default buttons, everything is just fine in Geo *grin*"}, {"response": 133, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (11:58)", "body": "Oh, and thank you for restoring the most recent postings list. I missed it."}, {"response": 134, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:03)", "body": "Graphics in Geo fixed."}, {"response": 135, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:10)", "body": "I saw...Much thanks...and I am torn about having the classic buttons and not the hand-made ones ... *sigh* I shall leave them as cfadm wishes them."}, {"response": 136, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:35)", "body": "Thank you for the marble bars. *sigh* It is back to Spartan classic instead of programmer crafted... but that was agreed on long time ago. Guess it is time to change my link color again, as well..."}, {"response": 137, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "To put the Spring's default buttons and the horizontal bar back, delete the define gifs and define hr lines from your rc file."}, {"response": 138, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (13:11)", "body": "Thank you. I also saved them as alternate GeoButtons file and ftp'd it to Spring's hard drive, so all I should have to do is to put the other URL in the current buttons' place. One more question....How do I become \"world builder\" again rather than just plain \"host\" of the conference? It is still in the rc and I hit the save these changes bar but is does not appear."}, {"response": 139, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (13:13)", "body": "I have to do the same thing with define fw as I did with define gifs and define hr is all."}, {"response": 140, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (13:16)", "body": "Ok...Since it is as it was originally, I shall not touch it. Which buttons should I use in Geo? It will be Spring soon and the handcrafted ones are so cheery and friendly...and special, somehow..."}, {"response": 141, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (13:34)", "body": "SpringArk seems to be fixed, as well."}, {"response": 142, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (13:39)", "body": "Excellent. Now, we can get that conference going again...when I find the time away from Geo. Mahalo plenty."}, {"response": 143, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (22:47)", "body": "yes, the praises from this wolfie have been made in other conferences. thanks so very much for all the hard work!! *HUGS*"}, {"response": 144, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 29, 2000 (00:00)", "body": "May I add mine as well - or am I repeating myself ( nothing new here!)"}, {"response": 145, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 2, 2000 (01:15)", "body": "I have problem which is using up space on Spring's Hard drive, and I don't know what to do about it. I have Ree's artwork (each over several hundred KB in size) portraits of just about everybody including me, and all sorts of other pictures which are no longer seen on Spring because the URL location is wrong. Suggestions?"}, {"response": 146, "author": "Ree", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (09:42)", "body": "Woh! Sounds like things have been a little unstable around here...!"}, {"response": 147, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (13:26)", "body": "Ree, you missed having to use an all-numerical IP to get to Spring, and there were days I could not get in at all (arrrrrgh!) And, other times posts were lost - and our esteemed gentlmen who work so hard at making Spring lovely and function properly got precious little sleep. Yippee! I am so happy you are posting again!!!"}, {"response": 148, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (13:39)", "body": "me too!"}, {"response": 149, "author": "Ree", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (13:52)", "body": "mee toooo! Wish I had a bit more time. How have you both been? Have any significant changes taken place while I was gone?"}, {"response": 150, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (14:24)", "body": "I had quadruplets and a sex change, but nothing else. (Not really!) Mike has been back posting in Geo! It turns out he is a Geologist! I was se excited to see him there! W're talking weird stuff in there like Ley lines and megalithic things - mostly British so far. Wolfie and I are still trying to get some attention of the Spring magicians who create conferences to made one for us called Crafts. Sheesh, my dear! You are always a joyous sight on spring, but...Law School?! Dontcha have to ask for extra time out just to breathe normally?! We are so proud of you...*big Hugs*"}, {"response": 151, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (04:34)", "body": "Good to see you back, Riette..."}, {"response": 152, "author": "Ree", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (05:58)", "body": "Thank you - I trust you are well? Ah, Marcia, Law School isn't as iffy-snotty-highbrow as people think, really. THere is ALOT of work, yes. Reading work - I even read when I'm on the loo or drying my hair. But it happens to be AMAZINGLY interesting, so the amount of work doesn't feel like punishment, and it is not difficult. Well, it's complicated, there's ALOT of stuff to remember, especially when you have to apply aids of interpretation to statutes or cases. There is SO many things to look out for, but it's GREAT. Like doing a jigsaw puzzle. But the understanding that studying Law requires couldn't in a million years be compared to, say, studying maths or science or geology. Apart from learning how the courts and the system function externally, it is all about language. Interpreting language, to be more specific. It is just a really enjoyable line of study for someone like myself who likes working with language. I was never that interested in literature, because I feel I don't need someone to tell me HOW to appreciate language. It is the application of language that has always fascinated me - that's why I decided on Law rather than Arts History or Literature."}, {"response": 153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 12, 2000 (19:13)", "body": "You are spot-on about \"studying\" Literature (it spoils a good read in my opinion)...and I can imagine some court cases are riveting to read. It is the minutiae that would have gotten to me, I think. Gimme a rock and let me analyze any day. Working with capricious humans whose brains act so differently from one another and from mine you have no baseline to compare things with other than other court cases. Hmmm.. In any case, I happy that someone with what I consider a superior and facile mind is going to join the fraternity which is mostly populated with the venal-minded of our population. *hugs* and if you need a pep talk, pop around and I will be happy to oblige"}, {"response": 154, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (16:09)", "body": "AAACK! Last week, the Austen.com chat room dissolved when the permissions to the directory in which it is house went flooey, and I couldn't even get into it. It happened again this afternoon, and while I was trying to fix it, the whole Austen.com site went down. I can't get in using FTP either--my password isn't accepted."}, {"response": 155, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (17:00)", "body": "Now I know why! Apparently, digihost doesn't allow chat rooms at all! They said they sent out an e-mail about this last week, but apparently not to the right person. Austen.com, sans chat, is back up and running."}, {"response": 156, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (17:41)", "body": "How is firth.com's chat room operating, in that case? Or am I mistaken about that?"}, {"response": 157, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (17:47)", "body": "The firth.com chatroom is still in operation, but it has a far lower volume than austen's. In addition, I've emailed one of the room's frequent users to tell her about the possibility of it getting shut down if any major chats are scheduled. I'd like to hear what Terry thinks of the situation, i.e., that digihost doesn't allow chatrooms on its servers, and what alternatives exist."}, {"response": 158, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (19:53)", "body": "Visto has chat room capabilities as does eGroups..."}, {"response": 159, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (20:15)", "body": "Visto does? Austen.com is hunting for a new place. So far we've tried BeSeen.com and Bravenet.com. We're going to try Talk City and maybe some others. But it looks like the best one is at chatweb.com. It costs money though, but only $10/month which isn't much. They allow HTML in posts and it looks quite a bit like our old room."}, {"response": 160, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (20:43)", "body": "That ad at the top of the page...check it out - I think it does! (Visto)"}, {"response": 161, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (10:19)", "body": "the chat facility within eGroups wouldn't suit austen.com at all because (1) you have to be a member of the group and (2) doesn't allow HTML stuff."}, {"response": 162, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (15:38)", "body": "You mean, there are folks who use HTML stuff in chat rooms? Doesn't that slow the reponding time down considerably?! Or...do they give points for style, too?"}, {"response": 163, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (15:42)", "body": "They post pictures and do italics/small for effect, just as we do on the Drool boards."}, {"response": 164, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (16:18)", "body": "I have only experienced the chat room we have and things happen so fast that if you took the time to do all of that it would be irrelevant by the time it appeared! Oh well, it serves their purposes well, I imagine. Some day when geo has eroded into a beach perhaps I will investigate."}, {"response": 165, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Mar 16, 2000 (22:20)", "body": "Hmm, HTMLing stuff doesn't usually make me fall behind the chat, but then, I don't do it much. For pics I post often, I have a page on my computer with the html all there, so all I have to do is cut and paste. Whenever I leave the room, I post this: All I have to do is open up the page I save my HTML to and cut and paste that in. Works well. Usually people will just put something in italics or in bolds."}, {"response": 166, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (13:11)", "body": "Aha! You have a page of templates, too. Good idea! The only way to go! I think you alone are responsible for many html programming successes. I have used your tutorial almost exclusively and passed the url for it on to others. Now, if we could just remember to close those tags..."}, {"response": 167, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (18:03)", "body": "BTW, the current URL for the toot is: http://austen.com/tutorial It used to be on my account on spring.net, but I haven't gotten that set back up again."}, {"response": 168, "author": "fitzwd", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (18:22)", "body": "Thank you, great doc!"}, {"response": 169, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (18:43)", "body": "Mahalo nui, Ann...I have referred many to this gem of yours. I shall send them the corrected url to bookmark."}, {"response": 170, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (14:22)", "body": "We just had another fairly successful server move around July 1 and things have settled down now. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 7, "subject": "Ramble", "response_count": 679, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (17:59)", "body": "I've been holed up here all day but I don't have cabin fever. I love it at my place. It's night time. Outside it's drizzling. I've been building new boxes to put on the net, reading, studying and writing today. The evening news is on the tube. I feel like making a pot of coffee. I keep getting a box on my screen that says my outbox in Microsoft Mail is damaged. My outbox is empty! I got some interesting email from Elizabeth Gipps, an old friend today. And that's part of my world tonight."}, {"response": 2, "author": "Saman", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (18:02)", "body": "I can't believe I'm actually doing this - I usually steer clear of such threads :). But then this has not been a typical day! I baked muffins for the first time in my life (my mother is slightly obsessive about anyone cooking in her kitchen, but she's w orking at the moment) and they were a success. Hey I'm doing better than the Bennet girls - they couldn't cook. I also just got rudely interrupted from my spring-browsing by a door-to-door salesman wanting to give me a voucher for 20 free meals - only I'd have to pay $30 for it! I blame Neil Finn for it all. Huh? I hear you say. Mr Finn was lead vocalist for Crowded House - my all-time favourite band who announced they were breaking up in June. Their final charity concert on the steps of the Sydney Opera House was televised he re on Sunday, and I'm am currently slowly working my way through a grieving process involving contimuous playing of all my Crowded House CDs - maybe that's why the salesman looked happy to depart. Top that people!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (18:08)", "body": "Tough to top. The only rule in this topic is that are no rules and that you can talk about anything and everything . Total free form."}, {"response": 4, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (18:58)", "body": "During my one excursion outside, I acquired a stud finder and 16 yards of unbleached muslin. Prize for the most creative use of these wares."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (19:20)", "body": "Hope you find that stud. I'm kicked back watching the music awards on Fox. And I'm scanning in some ancient family photos of my Norwegian relatives in Minnesota. I'm building sort of a family album web page for my folks and family at Christmas. It's my life story too. Dishwalla's playing on the tube."}, {"response": 6, "author": "elder", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (20:47)", "body": "Moody Blues boxed set CD is playing (the poetry is a bit surreal), and I just finished making up an algebra exam to give to my students tomorrow. I have not had time to browse here since Saturday evening, and I must say that I have missed all of you. I skipped (church) choir rehearsal to relax this evening, so I suppose I feel a bit guilty. Saman, congrats on the muffins. It has been an absolute age since I used my kitchen stoves to do anything other than heat soup or cook frozen dinners! As soon as the semester is over, I will go to San Diego for a week over Christmas -- mom and one brother's family out there. I plan to take the S&S video to share w/ mom."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (21:23)", "body": "Moody Blues. Santana was just on the music awards getting the Century Billboard award. Only George Harrison and three others have ever won this award. Still scanning pictures and working on some website proposals. I've got 4 computers hooked up to a switchbox here and I'm flipping from one to another. Bastrop Internet Services is working on building up the new server, I popped another 20mb of memory in it last night and Scott's putting NT 4.0 on it. I don't know if it's back on line yet. Their website is http://www.bastrop.net Tomorrow, Matt is going to build up a new primary server to replace http://access.spring.com which bit the dust. I got a 2mb hard drive to replace the 1 gigger that went down. The rains have past. It's quiet out in Cedar Creek, like it always is. I wonder what Amy's doing tonight."}, {"response": 8, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (03:41)", "body": "Amy slept for a change -- but awoke at 4 am"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (06:13)", "body": "Good morning Amy, it's 6 am here and you've already been up for two hours, are you ever bright eyed and bushy tailed today! I'm going in to Austin today to take care of lots of business and things that are piling up. I've got to get that contract going with Texaltel (see projects) and get that machine to Matt (to replace the server that crashed) and a bunch of friends are meeting at pub on 6th street tonight. We had some interesting comments in one of the NetMeeting topics yesterday (not the one that's linked to here) and you may want to check them out in the 'apps' conference. Did you know that if you hit the 'enter' key twice that you will get a menu here if you're in a shell? But only about half the menus work so far. I'm writing shell scripts to do a whole bunch of things. Is anyone here good at writing shell scripts?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (11:33)", "body": "Even though I won't be online for the next 8 hours. I left my microphone aimed at my radio. So you may be able to hear me talking to other folks if you connect to me on NetMeeting."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (11:34)", "body": "Here are some of the pictures I scanned: http://www.spring.com/~terry/albumjpg/ And me as a baby: http://www.spring.com/~terry/albumjpg/terry2.JPG"}, {"response": 12, "author": "Donna", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (19:49)", "body": "I have to start making Christmas cookies and wrapping presents. I would like to get most of this done while my \"the little angels\" are in school. I will be very busy during the morning hours. Every year I say I will not go crazy but every YEAR we do. Oh w ell, \"tis the seasons to be joLly, fa,la,la,la,la,la,la\" * *** ***** ******* ********* *********** *** ***"}, {"response": 13, "author": "Donna", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (19:58)", "body": "1 \"Merry Christmas\" 232 \"Happy New Year\" 34443 4555544 566666665 67777777776 7888888888887 101"}, {"response": 14, "author": "Donna", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (19:59)", "body": "I guess half a tree is better then none. HO! HO!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "Anna", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (20:37)", "body": "HO!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (22:28)", "body": "I have to make it down to see the tree of lights in Zilker Park. See my comments in the food conference about my wonderful dinner tonight."}, {"response": 17, "author": "mich", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (22:51)", "body": "I'm having a hard time finding any holiday spirit this year. I usually enjoy gift giving and all the events but Novemeber has worn me out. Someone remind me what's it like to have a life outside of work. Donna, could you pls send a little of your xmas spirit my way? I'm in grave need. Mich"}, {"response": 18, "author": "Donna", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (23:03)", "body": "Sure Mich, no, problem it will be a \"surprise\""}, {"response": 19, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (13:45)", "body": "D'Arcy or Pemberley shape cookies anyone ? Donna, you already got some gifts ? Got to get them before the usual 24-hour-prior-to-Xmas-day. And it is a major plus to have kids, they really put you in the spirit don't they. Almost no choice but to feel it. My trick for the past years, particularly when all I had was a job and friends at the other corner of the earth, was to give time to needy causes (filling baskets of food. Nothing like seeing a two/three year old receiving is only plush teddy. Even if my situation as quite change, I remained faithfull to this commitment and it makes me feel great. Sending you my warmest wishes of joy and happiness, mich."}, {"response": 20, "author": "cat", "date": "Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (18:40)", "body": "Not a good day today. Two girls in my homeroom were making fun of my friend Tara because she is skinny and short. They called her a Balemic Monkey (I dan't know if thats spellled right). They spread nasty rumors about her for absolutly no reason. They threw her books in the garbage, STOLE a few of her belongings, and on top of all that they threw away her BIBLE!! I am sooooooo pissed off right now. We also lost our game by ONE piont. It was a good game. I am not going to get any sleep tonite becaus John has invited 4 friends to sleep over. They are all loud and abnoxious (forgive spelling)."}, {"response": 21, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (20:18)", "body": "Cat, hope you were able to give Tara some support and comfort. At a time like that one really needs one's friends. Insecure young people can be so hard on one another. (And some of them never do grow out of it and become Caroline Bingleys!)"}, {"response": 22, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (23:27)", "body": "They should have a class in grade school/high school to teach people how to to love each other"}, {"response": 23, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (23:38)", "body": "But Donna, I believe that this is what parents are for?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (09:34)", "body": "Cheryl sometimes that is not enough."}, {"response": 25, "author": "cat", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (18:01)", "body": "People can just be so nasty to each other it disgusting! Tara was hysterical all day yesterday! I feel so bad as if I've done something awful. I feel so helpless! I want to comfort her but I can't. She is too upset. Things like this have been going on since fifth grade with her! I thought people in their last year of high school would at least be mature enough not to do that sort of thing. I hope she can forgive them. I hope I can forgive them. It is times like this to where the only way I can f rgive is when I look back and remember what Jesus did for me. Even though we laughed at Him, spat on Him, beat Him, and even killed the Messiah, the son of God, He asked His Father to forgive us all. He could have just jumped off that cross and destroye d all mankind with the snap of a finger but He didn't. He did not want to die but He loved us all so much. He wanted us to be with Him in paradise when we leave our earthly bodies. We do not deserve His love, but He gives it willingly. For those who a e offended by this message I am sorry for invading your beliefs."}, {"response": 26, "author": "cat", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (18:01)", "body": "People can just be so nasty to each other it disgusting! Tara was hysterical all day yesterday! I feel so bad as if I've done something awful. I feel so helpless! I want to comfort her but I can't. She is too upset. Things like this have been going on since fifth grade with her! I thought people in their last year of high school would at least be mature enough not to do that sort of thing. I hope she can forgive them. I hope I can forgive them. It is times like this to where the only way I can f rgive is when I look back and remember what Jesus did for me. Even though we laughed at Him, spat on Him, beat Him, and even killed the Messiah, the son of God, He asked His Father to forgive us all. He could have just jumped off that cross and destroye d all mankind with the snap of a finger but He didn't. He did not want to die but He loved us all so much. He wanted us to be with Him in paradise when we leave our earthly bodies. We do not deserve His love, but He gives it willingly. For those who a e offended by this message I am sorry for invading your beliefs."}, {"response": 27, "author": "cat", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (18:02)", "body": "I thought I hit that button once. Sorry."}, {"response": 28, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (18:56)", "body": "I spent the night waiting in a hospital emergency room....the victim is home and doing well, but meanwhile, I now feel like I am the one who need a doctor's care..... in an unrelated incident, I hit someone's car (black ice...nothing I could do)....my son 's snake is loose in the basement (Indiana Jones and I have similar feelings about vipers;I am contemplating a move to the Hilton)....I have to turn out a shepherd costume for my son by Monday or the PTA gestapo will come after me......On Sunday, I must s epherd a bunch of cub scouts carolling at a nursing home; only threats of bodily harm will get them to behave like angels(Hope the elderly won't notice the 'Batman smells' version of Jingle Bells).....my house looks like a sewer....by way of holiday decor ating,I'm thinking of stringing lights on the pumpkins that have frozen to the front porch......and friends keep wondering why I spit at the TV every time an ad for the Martha Stewart Christmas special comes on. Sorry to ramble, but just wanted to let you know it has been a typical week in the House of Grace. Ho, Ho, Ho! P.S. Amy, if you really want to find that stud, I would advise AGAINST using all 16 yards of the muslin....try working with 2 or 3 yards to make some low-cut little number that will hammer home the right message....be sure to wear that WonderBra (or if y ou don't have one, duct tape works the same kind of Wonders) ;-)"}, {"response": 29, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (19:17)", "body": "] I hit someone's car (black ice...nothing I could do)... ___ Oh Grace. How awful for you. Do treat yourself to the Hilton. Why not? And popcorn and champaign and P&P tomorrow. Can I come over?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (19:46)", "body": "Oh dear, Grace! Who is the \"victim\" and of what, if the black ice was an unrelated incident? ANd what variety of snake is loose? Fear not - in general, many snakes make very good pets and many others are of an extremely shy and retiring character and u nlikely to do anything to anyone unless provoked. When in junior high I was one of a group of kids who \"volunteered\" at the museum, and among our duties were, every two weeks, if there were no live mice available with which to feed the snakes, to force-f ed them hamburger, which they would not eat on their own, preferring their food alive. So two of us took on each snake, one holding the mouth open and the other poking the hamburger inside - then we had to hold its mouth shut till it swallowed the bite. The experience really stripped the poor snakes of all dignity and ability to inspire fear. Joan, too"}, {"response": 31, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (20:40)", "body": "Joan, the victim of last night's hospital escapade was my husband....he had gone to a Detroit Pistons game and was done in by a hot dog.....a piece lodged in his esophagus.......only with an ambulance, drugs, and a surgeon now behind us,and the victim fee ling much better, can I even dream of talking about the whole thing. (My husband was at the game with friends, one of whom is a thoracic surgeon and the other, a pediatrician. I'm left to wonder where they were during this whole thing!) My husband is a man of few words but because of this incident, those few are down to NONE, and he has to lecture on Monday. My son assures me that the snake missing from his collection is a milk snake...but I think this is a conspiracy to paint images of some benign creature hiding down there rather than a horrible lurking monster. (I am the only person on the block with cans of carnivorous snake food and freeze-dried crickets in her refrigerator - Woe to the guest innocently looking for a midnight snack.) Be assured that we are all now doing well.....and the HIlton says they do offer special rates for extended stays. Grace"}, {"response": 32, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sat, Dec 7, 1996 (23:40)", "body": "Re: 59:31 - what a nasty and scary experience. One would have thought that in the company he was in, he'd have been in good hands! My husband is a man of few words but because of this incident, those few are down to NONE, and he has to lecture on Monday.\" Hopefully the swelling will have gone down at least somewhat by then. And if not, tell him to borrow a PowerBook, feed it a SimpleText textfile and let MacInTalk read it for him. [grin] I am the only person on the block with cans of carnivorous snake food and freeze-dried crickets in her refrigerator For a year or two I had siamese fighting fish, and was the only one on my block with live brine shrimp tubifex worms in my refrigerator. Equally disgusting- especially the tubifex worms! Joan, too"}, {"response": 33, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (21:54)", "body": "You beat me to it with the muslin, Grace. I'm glad you and your husband are okay."}, {"response": 34, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (07:22)", "body": "About beating you to it with the muslin, Hilary.......I couldn't help myself; Amy gave us an opening that was 'sew' inviting. (By the way,I threw in the duct tape just to please you.) If I had been smart, I would have gotten Amy to whip up my shepherd costume with the extra yardage and send it by overnight mail. The family survived a difficult week....I was just beginning to feel optimistic about life again.....and then I went to that party last night at the home of a Martha Stewart clone...... which was enough to plunge this hapless homemaker into endless depres sion! So begins another week."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (07:35)", "body": "I'm off to work this morning. I had a nice weekend. We had very pleasant weather here in Austin. I started topic 82 in hopes that some of you will email folks that are interested in the Spring. If you find someone to your liking in topic 82, please email them and let them know they are most welcome here on the Spring. This would be most appreciated. I finished tape one of P&P and am part way in to tape two. I'm savoring the experience of seeing these tapes!"}, {"response": 36, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (14:47)", "body": "Who is Martha Stewart? Should I know? Thanks for the virtual ducktape! I should really use some round here - three of our 11 ducklings have died, probably at the beak of our drake. What we will do when we go away is a problem. Saw Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt last night. JB was enjoyable, ultra smooth, BR was WONDERFUL, great voice, fantastic blues slide electric guitar, and one raunchy lady."}, {"response": 37, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (15:06)", "body": "Martha is the US doyenne of elegant entertaining. 'She' is an empire...does TV specials, has books by the dozen, her own magazine -Martha Stewart Living, and a catalog of upscale merchandise. People either adore her, or, as in my case, live to make fun o f her. Diane White, a columnist at the Boston Globe, has for years kept up an anti-Martha campaign. Martha parody books are a hot item for Christmas around here. Jackson Browne AND Bonnie Raitt? Wow."}, {"response": 38, "author": "Anna", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (15:23)", "body": "quote for the day \"Boring Women Have Immaculate Homes\" (from my fridge magnet)"}, {"response": 39, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (16:40)", "body": "Hil, my nearly dead nap page has a Jackson Brown song as its theme song: http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wno.html"}, {"response": 40, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (16:42)", "body": "Donna, tell your story about meeting Hornsby in the music conference, and I will tell about Mellencamp? Did we not tell each other we met them while pregnant?"}, {"response": 41, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (17:44)", "body": "Amy, do you mean the music conference here at spring? I haven't got beyond here yet. 'Running on Empty' is a great song, BTW. Sorry it is applicable to your nap page, though. Or are you happy its run its course? Just musing that its 16 years since John Lennon died. I still get sad about it. 'And so this is Chrismas, and what have you done, Another year over, a new one just begun'.... And Joni's still ricochetting around in my head: Its coming on Christmas They're cutting down trees They're putting up reindeer And singing songs of joy and peace. I wish I had a river I could skate away on...."}, {"response": 42, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (18:46)", "body": "] Just musing that its 16 years since John Lennon died. ___ I happened to be in New York just after the murder and went to the Park for the vigil. I will never for get it."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (20:25)", "body": "I love those old Joni Mitchell songs!!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "jane", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (23:09)", "body": "Hilary, I am so glad that Martha Stewart has not poisoned Australia yet. If she stages a coup and completely takes over here (she decorated the White House last year on her Christma she knows her way around), Grace, Anna and the rest of us may have to co me and hide out at your place. Jane"}, {"response": 45, "author": "Anna", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (23:37)", "body": "Jane - I am in Australia :)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (23:52)", "body": "... at a safe distance from Martha Stewart."}, {"response": 47, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (01:07)", "body": "I am no where near even the fringe of the nieghborhood of Christmas Cheer. I have baked no cookies, I have sent no cards, I have bought no presents, I have not decorated my house (I did decorate my piano studio for my students, but that's all.) I am up to my eyeballs in Christmas in everything I do but none of it has affected me. This is the busiest time for musicians, everyone wants special Christmas programs- I have 9 more events in addition to my regularly packed schedule in the next two weeks. I a so busy \"Making Christmas Bright\" for everyone else that I have none left for myself. An occupational hazard, I know, and in the past I've always been able to rise above it, but not this year. The only day I can even see a few open hours to shop is Dec . 23, and I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about entering a mall two days before Christmas! Santa, help me!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "jane", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (09:23)", "body": "Anna, I realized after I posted my message that I was only guessing that you were within reach of Martha's clutches. That gives the rest of us another potential refulge! Cheryl, I am in a similar boat, not as busy so less of an excuse for failure to make cookies, decorate, shop. My husband is out of town this week so I am with our 2-year old--I tried to go shopping but had to chase her around, and ended up spending a few hours at the mall buying only stuff for her. But here's a shopping tip that I found out about on the Austen-L, and bought for my aunt. Blockbuster has, for $29.99, Persuasion and Sense and Sensibility packaged together. The problem is, it is probably better present for you than for anyone you know! Jane P.S. Music is such a great part of Christmas---at least you can enjoy your work!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (09:24)", "body": "It is funny how the weather changes here in Oulu, Finland. In the morning it is quite warm (about +2 degrees centigrade, which is warm this time of the year), and there's little water in the streets. In the evening, returning home, you have to walk through several inches (20 in worst cases) of snow, and the temperature is -15 degrees C. I have to get used to it. Usually it has been -20 and 20 inches of snow all the time. The worst point is that it is VERY slippery... Hope I'll live through Xmas, I'll visit my parents and eat well... And have a decent sauna, with my mother's healing spells. We belong to a family of witches, after all."}, {"response": 50, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (09:57)", "body": "Real witches, Mixu? Tell. Jane, just think. Unless you are going to have more kids, it gets easier every second with the little ones. Today you can't shop. In another few months you will be able to avert your eyes for a few more seconds at a time to attend to what you need. Amy"}, {"response": 51, "author": "Grace", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (10:27)", "body": "Re 59:32 Joan, just wanted to let you know that my husband was able to croak his way through Monday's lecture and everything went well. (I had dragged him over to read your solution, he got quite a kick out of it.... and said to tell you thanks!) Grace P.S. This madhouse I live in also boasts siamese fighting fish....but we don't spoil ours with the worms you mentioned."}, {"response": 52, "author": "Grace", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (10:36)", "body": "Re 59:38 Anna, what an inspirational fridge magnet...BORING WOMEN HAVE IMMACULATE HOMES......I'd love to put one on my fridge but I find the dirt layer keeps magnets from sticking......time to buy a new fridge, I guess!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (13:04)", "body": "Hil, Re: Running on Empty 59:32 (Joan I am getting to like this notation) Did the MIDI link work for you? Amy"}, {"response": 54, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (14:16)", "body": "Re: 59:51 - Grace - glad he enjoyed it. :-) If you don't have to \"do\" tubifex worms, you must have a reliable supply of live brine shrimp - mine were too picky to eat the feeeze-dried ones. Amy, re: 59:53 - using the numbers is better than nothing, but not nearly as good as an automatically created link! For example, \"Re: Running on Empty 59:32\" - \"32\" is not about MIDI - it's about tubifex worms. (It's too easy to copy the wrong numbers! - especially for those of us who are numerically challenged! I count myself as one of these, having scored in the 4th percentile in a math aptitude test.) I have been playing around in the redisplay box below and have discovered that to go back just to a referred-to response, typing in \"32-32\" will get just that one response (which is how I knew that it was tubifex worms). And that typing a negative number , say \"-4\", will show just the last 4 responses."}, {"response": 55, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (15:47)", "body": "] And that typing a negative number, say \"-4\", will show just the last 4 responses. ___ That might be handy."}, {"response": 56, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Tue, Dec 10, 1996 (17:19)", "body": "\"Blockbuster has, for $29.99, Persuasion and Sense and Sensibility packaged together\" Thank you! I just called my local Blockbuster and they have it - and my husband is going x-mas shopping tomorrow night. Guess what just made it to the top of my list?!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (06:48)", "body": "I'm busier than you can imagine, and will be till the weekend. Keep the home fires burning Amy!"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (07:01)", "body": "Mixu, have you discovered 'austen' yet? You're in for a treat!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (18:11)", "body": "I lost my wallet! This must be the worst time of year to be without credit cards."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (19:13)", "body": "Gosh, sorry to hear this Ann. Is there any chance of retrieving it? Where did you lose it?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (22:41)", "body": "Oh Dear - you have my deepest sympathy. This time last year I had mine stolen. Had to stop and change everything - including house and car locks, since there were spares for both car and house in the wallet, and had no ID. Then about 3 weeks later a ma il carrier found it in the bushes in a neighboring community - everything there but the cash."}, {"response": 62, "author": "mich", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (11:44)", "body": "Subject: \"software\" Last year, my friend upgraded his GirlFriend3.1 to GirlFriendPlus1.0 (marketing name: Fiancee1.0). Recently he upgraded Fiancee1.0 to Wife1.0 and it's a memory hogger, has taken all his space; and Wife1.0 must be running before he can do anything. Althoug h he didn't ask for them, Wife1.0 came with plug-ins such as MotherInLaw and BrotherInLaw. Some features I'd like to see in the upcoming GirlFriend4.0... - A \"Don't remind me again\" button - Minimize button - Shutdown feature - An installshield feature so that Girlfriend4.0 can be completely uninstalled if so desired (so you don't lose cache and other objects) I tried running Girlfriend 2.0 with Girlfriend 1.0 still installed, they tried using the same I/O port and conflicted. Then I tried to uninstall Girlfriend 1.0 but it didn't have an uninstall program. I tried to unstall it by hand, but it put files in m y system directory. Another thing that sucks -- in all versions of Girlfriend that I've used is that it is totally \"object orientated\" and only supports hardware with gold plated contacts. ***** BUG WARNING ******** Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before doing the uninstall itself. Then Mistress 1.1 will refuse to install, claiming insufficient resources. passing along funnies for the day. Mich"}, {"response": 63, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (16:14)", "body": "Amy, #4 response. I got ahold of a stud finder once. It was recommended by Norm Abrams, I think. Well, I figured this device would soon have me in touch with one or more outstanding specimens of manhood. Unfortunately, the device was not a stud finder at all. It was a turkey caller. I guess the items got mixed up in the display; this happens at flea markets. As a turkey caller it was effective. Several real losers showed up and asked me for a date. A week later I donated the turkey caller to the Chamber of Commerce because they were holding their annual Sport-o-rama and there was to be a turkey calling contest. At the height of the contest, my ex flew in from Texas. So I know the turkey caller worked properly, when used by an expert. As for the bolt of unbleached muslin, you could make several sets of sheets. 108\" X 90\" for standard flat sheets, I think. That's after the hems. It's good to have plenty on hand if your stud finder works well. Keep us all posted, hear?"}, {"response": 64, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (16:57)", "body": "Amy, I could get through to click on \"Running on empty\" but then it just gave me coded screen messages, it didn't play anything."}, {"response": 65, "author": "trainmaster", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (08:06)", "body": "I'm new on this, but after reading this I don't feel so bad. Christmas is kind of a bummer this year. Both daughers left home this summer, and the house is empty. I have a new granddaughter in Germany that I haven't got to hold yet.So am not really in t he Christmas spirit yet. My best to all of you. As for Martha Stewart, I wish she was real. No one can be that creative all the the time. I think she is a defense department robot that went haywire. Have a happy holiday to all, and to all a good nig t!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (11:19)", "body": "That explains Martha Stewart! No wonder."}, {"response": 67, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (17:11)", "body": "I found a nice #7 sable brush half covered with mud under a pine tree during my walk. I think it is a present."}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (20:20)", "body": "I called Scott Holman over at BIS and he got the dedicated ip to resolve. But that's another topic. I've been rambling around the house today, cleaning and organizing. I started today driving through the fog to a breakfast at IHOP. As they say around town, 'onward through the fog'. I feel like going out for a night time walk."}, {"response": 69, "author": "Kennebec", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (23:35)", "body": "Hmm. Been pretty noisy today. Attended #1 son's play off basketball game (we won), took same son Christmas shopping (he was miserable), went to my 91 year old grammies for a real baked bean supper (we go every Saturday night), came home around 10:00 to complete chaos. #1 Daughter crying because Dad had carted her away from 3 boys & 2 girls spell TROUBLE. (She is 14 and was horribly embarassed. One of the boys had been RUDE. Dad didn't like it. Parents call. Apologies. More howling. Daughter VERY MAD not at Rude Boy, no, Mad at Dad for intefering) This is the only quiet spot in the whole house (and it's already Sunday). By the way, I agreed with Dad and not Daughter and am trying to convince her that her 'friend' owes her a BIG apology. That the whole incident is really about respect and dignity. Being a parent is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life."}, {"response": 70, "author": "Mlydle", "date": "Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (23:46)", "body": "Well, me and significant other were going out to eat when we decided to go by 15 year old stepson's fathers house (who is out of town) to check it out. Stepson was supposed to be spending the night at a friends house. Seems we had a idea that stepson mi ght be up to something. When we drove up to the house there were and wife unit walked in, about 50-75 adolescents scurried out of the house. The house was full of beer, liquer etc.. When it was time to go stepson had set it up where one of his friends icked him up and he left. We chased after him but to no avail. Needless to say, stepson is grounded till next year, which I do not know if that is more of a punishment for me/us or him."}, {"response": 71, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (01:20)", "body": "I am so glad I do not have kids!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (01:38)", "body": "And that's what I'll have the privileged to, in about 10 years. Preparing myself, I think...."}, {"response": 73, "author": "Cynthia7", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (07:07)", "body": "Hi, I'm new to Ramble. It's about dawn in S.F.Sunday morning the 15th. I hoping to get some leads on how to find out information about who actually makes those holiday ornaments in China, etc. or the toys. Having just watched the TV special last Sunday Mrs. Santa Claus, and the part about the kids making thetoys, I couldn't help wonder, as I went shopping yesterday. Me, I'm getting my elementary teaching credential with an emphasis in technology. If posssible, now that finals are just about over, I'd like to throw up a web page about this topic. The page would be dedicated to Iqbal Masih http://www.digitalrag.com/mirror/iqbal.html a 12 year old who was killed on Easter Sunday organizing against child labor My e-mail address is crapak@sfsu.edu. not the one that I had to register with Any leads would be appreciated. I'll try to check back on this conference but e-mailing me directly would also be appreciated since time is short and I want to have it up before next week shopping. I'll be doing research on who makes toys for leading toy makers, GUND, etc. and other importers who may or may not be using children to make the ornaments, toys. Happy Holidays Please feel free to forward this request to any appropriate list etc. Thanks for the help!"}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (09:15)", "body": "Sure, we'll be happy to let you set up your web page. Send your request to: mailto://terry@spring.com Be sure to let me know what username you would like."}, {"response": 75, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (10:02)", "body": "Terry and Amy - there are now so many threads - that it takes a long time to review just today's messages. Lots of IO time just to see that person \"A\" is LOL at person B's comment yesterday. I love those comments, but there is a lot of download time inv olved here. If we get a day or two behind, we drown. Is it possible to combined threads - maybe the older ones - on similar topics so we of limited time can cover the ground a little quicker. Maybe after a topic is a week old, it could be folded in with other similar topics. We have two addiction threads, two duckfaces, several minor character threads, lots of others that could be combined so that IO time could be reduced."}, {"response": 76, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (10:10)", "body": "The way to \"combine threads\" or topics as they're called, would be copy and paste a complete topic into a single response in another topic then \"scribble\" it. Or make it hidden unless you clicked on it. We'd have to ask Dave how to implement a scribble command or hide command or whatever you wanted to call it. It's not currently implemented. But this could be a solution. Is this what you mean?"}, {"response": 77, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (10:26)", "body": "Re; It seems that you have to be one step ahead of them. At least no one was injuried. I would definitly ground him{a year is pretty hard to enforce} and make him do chores around the house.My son said {who is 13} he should not be allowed to drive until{n o permit} he is 18 years old. I am very surprised at this punishment. He knows that most kids can't wait to drive just, like him."}, {"response": 78, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (20:14)", "body": "I just got caught up on reading my e-mail! 37 messages deleted from the trash bin! Whoohoo!! Free at last, free at last, thank God amighty, I'm free at last! (at least until tomorrow...)"}, {"response": 79, "author": "Saman", "date": "Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (02:50)", "body": "I hate what Christmas does to my hard-earned savings (perhaps dislike is a better word). I went shopping today for the major presents which I have been planning to but for weeks and ended up spending twice as much as I intended - mainly on stuff for me! I just checked my email and I got a lovely reply from the moderator of the Crowded House list I subscribe to. In my eagerness to inform the listies of an upcoming interview I mailed them, and then when it bounced back I mailed it again (and perhaps even a third time). Stupid me - it only bounced from one list member so now people around the world think I'm a hopeless newbie (I really dislike that). But Marck (the list operator) was really sweet and has made me feel a whole lot better. I think I'll stic to lurking on that list, and compensate by posting excessively here, because it's such a supporting environment :)"}, {"response": 80, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (08:34)", "body": "Amy (and all the others who are interested) Yes, a sort of. You know, the meaning here in Finland is a little bit different. It actually means \"A family with strange powers\", or something like that. Anyway, in my family there HAS been a real witch (I think it was my great-great-grandfather), who could, for example, make the neighbour's cows to disappear. Then there are some healers (like my mother's uncle, and, to a limited extent, my mother) and my elder little brother sometimes sees the future in his dreams. My gift is the same that my grandmother (from my mother's side, because that's the family) had: I have an inborn empathy towards people and animals. Sometimes I can predict very accurately the actions of some people, even though I don't know them well. It usually works for friends only, though. A disturbing gift, I'd say. I even saw the destruction of my 1,5 year relationship, because my girlfriend fell in love with a good friend of mine. I was the one that knew it first (even before they did), but since I've sworn I won't try to interfere with my empathy, I did nothing. Maybe it wouldn't have helped. They are married now, and happy. I think. I should visit them at Christmas... Okay, that's enough for now about the Finnish witches. I think it was no wonder that in medieval times the Finns were feared wizards. There's still some of the powers left. I know of a couple of other witch families, too."}, {"response": 81, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (17:34)", "body": "I have a similar ability to your brother's. Sometimes, when I am about to fall asleep, I get a sort of dream, but with a difference--I know that they are predictive of the future. Before I ever went to college, or ever visited the campus, I saw a glimpse of one of the classrooms and the teacher giving a lecture; about two years later what I saw came true. It used to happen much more often when I was younger, but actually occurred t wice on the same day last week. As a physicist and a scientist this is a bit disturbing. I must conclude from personal experience that time is not linear, but folds upon itself in a way which allows information from one time to be viewed in another. I also keep in mind a line from Billy-Boy: There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. (By the way I'm 1/4 Finnish (my paternal grandmother))"}, {"response": 82, "author": "Mlydle", "date": "Wed, Dec 18, 1996 (19:47)", "body": "In regard to the punishment for stepson, we agreed for him to be grounded till Christmas. You all are right, you must stay one step ahead of them. He being only 18 years younger than me helps as well. It only seems like yesterday that I was up to simil ar shaningans. In regards to the above, Well I have to think about whether time is not linear, but folds upon itself. Being of the logical sorts who did too much experimentation when younger, I tend to pulled between logic and experience."}, {"response": 83, "author": "maddog", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (15:52)", "body": "Terry, just checked out the apps conference looking for help on a problem I have been having with realaudio - yikes, that conference is huge! - anyhow I kept getting a server error message when I tried to get into the realaudio section - thought I should let you know and also to ask who/where else could I turn for help with realaudio questions - specifically I am looking for a way to obtain a new copy of the old raplayer 2.x plugin for netscape/win 3.x - it seems that now that realaudio has come out with .0, they don't offer it anymore (snobs)- and 3.0 merely taunts me with bandwidth error messages on my poor old 486/14,400 set up.... I tried clicking my red shoes together and saying \"there's no place like version 2.x\", but it didn't work......"}, {"response": 84, "author": "cat", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (19:15)", "body": "Hello Peoples! My computer has been used by my mother and younger brother for the past WEEK. It has been hard to be away for so long but I have comforted myself and have started to read Northangar Abbey. Who is ready for the Flu\\Cold season? The Octe t (my singing group) gave a concert this morning. Yours Truely got a solo in \"Emmanuel\" ....in our darkness, in our bondage, child of hope we long for thee, walk among us, dwell within us, be our light and set us free, Emmanuel, Emmanuel, our God is with us now Emmanuel, the daystar of our night is sleeping on the straw, be with us now Emmanuel.....Isn't that song BEAUTIFUL! I am also singing it on Christmas Eve. Is that cool or what?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 19, 1996 (20:51)", "body": "Maddog, check out http://www.realaudio.com and try our conference again. That server error happens every now and then but you'll probably be able to get in next time."}, {"response": 86, "author": "maddog", "date": "Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (14:03)", "body": "thanks - I all ready been to realaudio, of course they no longer offer 2.0 (must have partners in the modem business) - It's really a drag when a company will not support a product that is less than a year old, just because they have a newer release. It k ind of leaves people like me in the lurch if we can't go buy a new pentium to run their new product. (sounds like some other company I won't mention but whose initials are microsoft!) I will check your realaudio conference again to see if there is anyone that made a backup copy of version 2.0 they might share..."}, {"response": 87, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (11:05)", "body": "Ladies, just have to share the words of wisdom on my perpetual calendar yesterday; reading it made my day. \"There's nothing wrong in the world that a sensible woman couldn't settle in an afternoon\". Happy Holidays!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (19:53)", "body": "Amy-- have you used all your muslin? I heard there is a KKK for persons of color: they call it the Black Muslins. Cat-- I hope your friend Tara is doing okay and you are feeling better about that ugly situation. Maybe the kids who stole Tara's Bible will peek inside and find something helpful. I find it very hard to pray for people who are mean to me, or to others. B ut when I am able to, it is liberating. Cheryl-- we have something in common. I teach computer stuff a lot these days, but I have not been able to give up teaching piano. But hey, keyboards is keyboards, hmmm? I like to think about how the piano was developed by Bart. Cristofori, whose huge tro uble was perfecting the escapement. But they said it couldn't be done-- you couldn't have a keyboard instrument that you could control, as to amplitude or loudness, by the way you struck the keys! Then many years later the whole thing was repeated from Mo g on, with electronic keyboards finally becoming polyphonic and TOUCH RESPONSIVE. Wow! I think Bach would have been nuts about electronic music stuff. Joyous holidays, all!"}, {"response": 89, "author": "maddog", "date": "Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (21:55)", "body": "Terry - within 24 hours of posting my plea about my realaudio problems in your apps conference, I have been in contact with a very fine dude named David Bowles who searched/found and mailed me a new copy of version 2.0! I bow long and low to him, you, and The Spring for making this possible - I never fail to be in awe of the power of the net and the kindness of the people I have met here. peace and joy"}, {"response": 90, "author": "cat", "date": "Sun, Dec 22, 1996 (07:54)", "body": "I can't believe Christmas is only 3 days away!"}, {"response": 91, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sun, Dec 22, 1996 (17:10)", "body": "I am so bored I changed the curtains in my kitchen. Just a few things to wrap and a couple of cookies to bake. Hope everyone has most of their shopping done because I know I hate fighting the crowds. that must be the reason why it is so quite around here . Merry Christmas."}, {"response": 92, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (00:32)", "body": "I know that some of my friends here have been concerned about me and my complete and utter lack of Christmas spirit. I have had a few glimpses of it this past week; last Thursday when I attended the Jr. High School Band Concert and watched 11 of my piano or handbell kids play their band instruments in public for the first time, and again at my students Christmas Piano Recital, all of them dressed up in their Sunday best and playing all the old favorites! This morning my church choir offered our Annual Christmas Cantata and I felt the closest to Christmas that I have been, singing the wonderful words about our Lord choosing to become one of us to save us. I even came home and did some decorating! Tomorro w I am spending the day baking, for who can be a Grinch when eating Grandma's famous Christmas cookies! I am very thankful this Christmas for all the new friends I have found here. God bless you all!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "geekman", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (02:58)", "body": "God Bless You Merry Gentlepeople at this festive time. I'm so pleased to have met all of the wonderful people who make up the growing band of Austenites. I am especially thankful to Amy and Terry for their time, patience and perseverance, and of course their server space."}, {"response": 94, "author": "lars", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (16:56)", "body": "Hi Terry. Hmm. Suspected we had similar ancestry. Pretty nice place! Soon on way to bar to see friends before all take off for xmas. Fill myself with liquid \"charm and intelligence.\" Then probably enter cyberspace - again. Merry holidays to all from Frisco! Lars"}, {"response": 95, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (22:08)", "body": "You're Norwegian Lars?"}, {"response": 96, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Dec 23, 1996 (22:41)", "body": "Today, my sister and I trekked out into the blizzard we are experiencing here in Minneapolis and went to what locals refer to as the Mega-Mall, also known, more formally, as the Mall of America--the largest shopping mall in the United States (there is a larger one in Edminton Canada). I was pleasently suprised to find that the mall wasn't very crowded--on this Christmas-Eve Eve. Perhaps even hearty Minnesotans were afraid to wade through the snow and ice to go shopping (thank God for 4-WD!). But I believe it is more likely that they were all hanging their heads in shame after the trouncing the Vikings took yesterday at the hands of the Green Bay Packers 38-10 (GO PACK!!!). Your Eternal Cheesehead--Ann"}, {"response": 97, "author": "Mlydle", "date": "Tue, Dec 24, 1996 (00:41)", "body": "Well, here in Austin its a balmy 60-70 degrees. Being of the male persuasion, I find myself compelled to wait till the last 2-3 days to shop, so I was one of the many hurried masses going madly from place to place (thank god for Valium and relaxation tap es) trying to find that perfect gift within my price range. Need a John Madden Super Nintendo ASAP, stepson can't have all clothes. And all the while trying what this years Christmas symbolizes to me. But more on that later, Wallmart is open 24 hours.. ."}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 24, 1996 (04:14)", "body": "So, Ann, you're one of those folks we see on tv with face painted green and a big block of cheese mounted atop their heads?"}, {"response": 99, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (01:17)", "body": "I got a cheesehead for Christmas!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (06:32)", "body": "Can we see a picture of you wearing a cheesehead on your web page?"}, {"response": 101, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (11:18)", "body": "I'll work on it! Thanks Terry for giving me a home page. It's up and running--and extremely boring at the moment (www.spring.com/~anneh/). It's basically all of my bookmarks. I'll work on making it more interesting. My sister has a scanner and said she will scan whatever I want, but she lives in California, about to embark on a three week trip to Italy, so it will be a while before any cheesehead pictures could possibly appear."}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (11:58)", "body": "I have a scanner too, if anyone needs to mail pictures to me for their webpage."}, {"response": 103, "author": "churchh", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (13:11)", "body": "Hey Ann, I'm majorly bummed out that you didn't include your very own graphic that I made just for you, on your webpage. I spent five minutes looking for the quote and a whole fifteen minutes slaving over a hot Photoshop to make the graphic, so I think i t's the least you could do..."}, {"response": 104, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (14:31)", "body": "The cheesehead shot?"}, {"response": 105, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (21:46)", "body": "Check out my HTML Tags Tutorial: www.spring.com/~anneh/tagsaaaa.html Any advice on changes or additions are very welcome. I do like my graphic Henry. I will put it up."}, {"response": 106, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (17:09)", "body": "Thanks Ann for so pleasantly reminding me of why I don't live in Minnesota anymore, and why visiting Minnesota is much more pleasant in the summertime. The Mall of America is awesome, and so close to the airport when I come for those summer visits. Happ y New (and hopefully warmer) Year!"}, {"response": 107, "author": "drymartini", "date": "Fri, Dec 27, 1996 (11:20)", "body": "Careful with those tranks, now. Say, have you seen this new product that contains tranks and aspertame? It's called EqualLibrium. Hope you made it back safely from the bar where you stocked up on charm, etc. I have been doing extensive research into the construction of bottles, there being a major container maker in my town. I have discovered that most bottlenecks are at the t op. Tried to explain this to my managing editor; he is not convinced. Does your research bear out my conclusions, Lars? Or do we need to continue gathering data, replicating our results? When we have enough data, will we be able to perform analyses and re ort our findings?"}, {"response": 108, "author": "Donna", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (13:25)", "body": "My girlfriend and I took my 3 kids and her eldest daughter out for Pizza.Of course they always bring the pitcher of soda to soon.By the time the pizza came it was all gone.I had some left in my cup and eldest daughter had some left in hers. When my kids a re thristy watch out for your drink. My six year old says \"Hey Gee\" your not drinking your soda\"\"How come\"? \"May I please have some\" she said \"Sure\". His reply was \"thanks\" \"and If you don't mind I'll take the straw too\".It was done in the politest manner for a six year old don't ya think.We all jumped on the poor kid Scotty! It was funny.Then they had to play the jukebox\"Grandma Got Ran Over by a Raindeer\" it was hilarous.They all started singing. This is why I don't go out very much. What a scene???"}, {"response": 109, "author": "TJ", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (14:03)", "body": "WOW, first time i came to this area, but then again i haven't been around in a while....had to read all 108 entries as new.....what an interesting bunch of comments, statements, conversations, questions & answers. Absolutely loved it, sure wish this wa s an open chat..... I would definitely like to talk to many of you regularly........ Terry have you thought about putting in a chat area.......??????????"}, {"response": 110, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (18:58)", "body": "We have a chat room. You can get to this from the link on the main Austen Conference page. It is the Pemberley Drawing Room: http://www.worldrch.com/cgibin/Chat/nph-chat.cgi"}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (21:21)", "body": "Good to see you coming around again TJ. One of these times I'm gonna make it for darts at the tavern down in Bastrop. Let me know when the next one is going to be ok? We can get our own chat room if folks want it. The kind Pemberly folks have offered us their software if we want it. It's not ichat, but it's not bad stuff."}, {"response": 112, "author": "TJ", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:31)", "body": "from the looks of the stuff on the ramble page, it might be a good idea to have our own chat area.......at least see if anyone else has an interest.......but right now I think I'll check out the Pemberly Drawing Room.........Paul, yea it is nice to be bac k......do you have anything to do the Bastrop Internet Services??????.......do you know Daryl Kouba??????......hope to see you on Thursday (darts)..........."}, {"response": 113, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:35)", "body": "I have two servers on the bastrop.net. I can't get a hold of the kid who does their web page. I'm looking for someone in the Bastrop area, a high school kid would be ok, who can work part time at the Spring installing networks, configuring servers, and doing data entry work. I have a plan to make the Spring a world class web site and I am starting to sense an organization forming. The folks in the Austen conference are really pitching in and helping out and starting to take part in some website projects. But I need some help locally now."}, {"response": 114, "author": "Linda409", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (13:56)", "body": "There are a group of us (about 10) who have formed a music group here at work to exercise our mutual love of music. Twice a month, we reserve a conference room, bring in our instruments and meet together during lunch hour. I play piano and keyboard (at work) and sing, all just a little and very ill, indeed. But, it is something else that affords me an extraordinary source of pleasure (like Jane Austen). We play and sing lots of different kinds of music because we have different tastes which include popular, country, standards, classical. We haven't had the nerve to attempt jazz, yet. One of the pieces that we do frequently is Handel's Largo from \"Xerxe s which is the piece that Mary sings in P&P2 (at the Netherfield Ball, I think). For the past couple of years, we have hosted a Christmas sing-along where we play and sing holiday music in the cafeteria and invite the entire building to join us. It has been well received. Today, I ran into Karen, who is a fellow music group member. As we were chatting, we discovered a mutual love of P&P and P&P2. I'm so excited!! I think that I can create yet another addict. Now, besides you wonderful internet friends, I will be able to talk about Jane Austen face to face with Karen at work and with my friend Barbra after working hours. 1997 is going to be great!!! Happy New Year to you all !!!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "jane", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (14:13)", "body": "Linda, That music group sounds really delightful. I recently found out that a woman who works where I do is a longtime committed lurker to this board. She didn't recognize me from my postings, but we found out by accident that we both like this place. And the significant other of a man I work with is a frequent visitor to Firthdom, and has a copy of The Making of P&P that she will lend me. Small world, indeed. Jane"}, {"response": 116, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (20:29)", "body": "Well, here it is New Year's Eve, and the state of the northern part of the state (CA) could be better. The Russian River is now 2 feet above flood stage and the people up there have been told to evacuate or prepare to be stranded. So much for the ir New Year's Eve plans... While the rain has not been excessive in my immediate neighborhood, 3 of our local reservoirs are full-up and spilling over their dams, and our entire TV cable system has \"broken\" somewhere and they don't yet know where or why. Before it broke we saw a few seconds of the New Year's fireworks in Sidney Harbour - and I think I spotted Ian waving at the camera. Happy New Year, all!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "Donna", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (20:38)", "body": "Rain has been excessive here {in PA.} to Joan. We had a flood in the Summer of 1972. Are you worried about flooding? The weather man said we only had more rain \"100\" years ago. Now that is very strange."}, {"response": 118, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (20:58)", "body": "I am not concerned for my own estate being flooded, but it is sad to see it happening to our neighbors to the north again - they got it badly in 1986 and again in 1995, and here they go again... Many vineyards are already under 3 to 4 feet of wate r..."}, {"response": 119, "author": "McBruce", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (21:32)", "body": "Heading into 1997 in the Last Frontier, our weather isn't threatening just darn inconvenient. Forecast for tonight is 40-45 below, extended forecast thru sunday is 30-60 below. On the plus side, tomorrow we break the 4 hour mark of available daylight! Had the truck plugged in all afternoon so it would start tonight, now the question is how long I can stay out before it freezes up. A happy and peaceful 1997 to all!"}, {"response": 120, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (00:00)", "body": "This all makes Boston's 20 degrees F. and 1 inch of snow seem so anemic. I wish you all a more pleasant '97."}, {"response": 121, "author": "Anna", "date": "Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (04:29)", "body": "On the subject of one in a hundred year rainfalls; about 5 years ago sydney had the third of 3 one in a hundred year rains in 4 years - ain't statistics wonderful. In the ritzy part of town a Jaguar was swept down the street and deposited on top of someo ne's Mercedes; truly impressive rain. Still, at least it was summer, so warm, if wet. I hope those in need dry out soon."}, {"response": 122, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (04:54)", "body": "It is warm (relatively speaking) though wet here - it is pouring as I type yet at almost 3 AM it is only 64 F outside. Pineapple express for sure!"}, {"response": 123, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (10:58)", "body": "Austin's sixth street partied down last night and I got a video of myself at the stroke of midnight on the Springs' main page . I started out at the KOOP party at Armageddon and ended up with the masses on Sixth, watching the big silver start get hoisted by a huge crane. Now, I'm sitting in Cedar Creek with my coffee and toast. Happy New Year everyone!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (23:53)", "body": "For all of you suffering through some absolutely awful winter weather, we in southern California are busy taking good care of all the truly nice weather for you and would be vastly happy to send it your way at any time convenient!"}, {"response": 125, "author": "Inko", "date": "Thu, Jan 2, 1997 (16:20)", "body": "Mary, my visiting daughter would greatly appreciate it if you would send your truly nice weather to Seattle. She's heading back there tomorrow and would like to return to decent weather!;-)"}, {"response": 126, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Jan 2, 1997 (17:58)", "body": "and would be vastly happy to send it your way at any time convenient! Please do not stand on ceremony or await an invitation! Any time at all would be convenient! Stepping on my lawn sounds and feels like treading on saturated sponges. :-("}, {"response": 127, "author": "tedchong", "date": "Thu, Jan 2, 1997 (18:23)", "body": "Hi Terry, we still cannot access news.prismnet.com for quite some time after you switch from iamerica.net. It seems like prismnet did not open usenet access for our IP addresses. Hope you can check this matter and happy new year."}, {"response": 128, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 2, 1997 (23:45)", "body": "I'll look into it Ted. Thanks."}, {"response": 129, "author": "tedchong", "date": "Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (00:03)", "body": "Terry, if prismnet granted us usenet access, we can use tin to access the usenet news, but you have to do (at shell prompt): rm /etc/nntpserver ; echo news.prismnet.com > /etc/nntpserver so all of us can access the news. Hope it helps."}, {"response": 130, "author": "lilah", "date": "Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (20:11)", "body": "It's just after 9 pm here in South Florida, and I'm recovering from a day at work that can best be described as, \"OK, folks, the holidays are over.\" Yikes. I'm an editor, learning a new city and looking for a new circle of friends. I just found the Spring yesterday -- not to mention the Austen group. I suspect I've found some kindred spirits."}, {"response": 131, "author": "Amy", "date": "Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (20:45)", "body": "Where did you come from Lilah? What kind of editor?"}, {"response": 132, "author": "lilah", "date": "Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (22:14)", "body": "Amy, I moved here from Hoboken, N J, where I lived for a number of years, working in Manhattan and New Jersey as a newspaper editor. I do the same thing here, for a group of small specialty papers."}, {"response": 133, "author": "geekman", "date": "Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (20:00)", "body": "Terry, you didn't say that this topic was in multiple Conferences! I just thought I'd visit the Cultures Conference and 'lo what did I see but this topis! Tch tch!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "Anna", "date": "Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (20:32)", "body": "]topic was in multiple Conferences! That's been apparent from the postings from \"strangers\" for some time. It's also in porch"}, {"response": 135, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (17:41)", "body": "When you do a listing of topics, it states that it's a \"linked topic\"."}, {"response": 136, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (20:29)", "body": "It also states \"linked item\" every time you read new stuff in it right at the top of the topic. On future \"linked topics\" I'll post a note that they are linked in the intro or in one of the responses to make this clear."}, {"response": 137, "author": "geekman", "date": "Tue, Jan 7, 1997 (04:09)", "body": "Thanks Terry! Will be much appreciated. From within the Austen Conference this time."}, {"response": 138, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (22:22)", "body": "_______________________________________________________ \"Why did the chicken cross the road?\" ----------------------------------------------------- Plato: For the greater good. Karl Marx: It was a historical inevitability. Thomas de Torquemada: Give me ten minutes with the chicken and I'll find out. Timothy Leary: Because that's the only kind of trip the Establishment would let it take. Douglas Adams: Forty-two. Nietzsche: Because if you gaze too long across the Road, the Road gazes also across you. Oliver North: National Security was at stake. Carl Jung: The confluence of events in the cultural gestalt necessitated that individual chickens cross roads at this historical juncture, and therefore synchronicitously brought such occurrences into being. Jean-Paul Sartre: In order to act in good faith and be true to itself, the chicken found it necessary to cross the road. Ludwig Wittgenstein: The possibility of \"crossing\" was encoded into the objects \"chicken\" and \"road,\" and circumstances came into being which caused the actualization of this potential occurrence. Albert Einstein: Whether the chicken crossed the road or the road crossed the chicken depends upon your frame of reference. Aristotle: To actualize its potential. Buddha: If you ask this question, you deny your own chicken-nature. Salvador Dali: The Fish. Darwin: It was the logical next step after coming down from the trees. Emily Dickinson: Because it could not stop for death. Epicurus: For fun. Ralph Waldo Emerson: It didn't cross the road; it transcended it. Johann Friedrich von Goethe: The eternal hen-principle made it do it. Ernest Hemingway: To die. In the rain. Werner Heisenberg: We are not sure which side of the road the chicken was on, but it was moving very fast. David Hume: Out of custom and habit. Saddam Hussein: This was an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it. Jack Nicholson: 'cause it (censored) wanted to. That's the (censored) reason. Pyrrho the Skeptic: What road? Ronald Reagan: I forget. John Sununu: The Air Force was only too happy to provide the transportation, so quite understandably the chicken availed himself of the opportunity. The Sphinx: You tell me. Sappho: Due to the loveliness of the hen on the other side, more fair than all of Hellas' fine armies. Henry David Thoreau: To live deliberately ... and suck all the marrow out of life. Mark Twain: The news of its crossing has been greatly exaggerated. Stephen Jay Gould: It is possible that there is a sociobiological explanation for it, but we have been deluged in recent years with sociobiological stories despite the fact that we have little direct evidence about the genetics of behavior, and we do not know how to obtain it for the specific behaviors that figure most prominently in sociobiological speculation. Joseph Stalin: I don't care. Catch it. Crack its eggs to make my omlette. Captain James T. Kirk: To boldly go where no chicken has gone before. Machiavelli: So that its subjects will view it with admiration, as a chicken which has the daring and courage to boldly cross the road, but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely chicken's dominion maintained. Hippocrates: Because of an excess of pleghm in its pancreas. Andersen Consultant: Deregulation of the chicken's side of the road was threatening its dominant market position. The chicken was faced with significant challenges to create and develop the competencies required for the newly competitive market. Andersen Consulting, in a partnering relationship with the client, helped the chicken by rethinking its physical distribution strategy and implementation processes. Using the Poultry Integration Model (PIM) Andersen helped the chicken use its skills, methodologies, knowledge capital and experiences to align the chicken's people, processes and technology in support of its overall strategy within a Program Management framework. Andersen Consulting convened a diverse cross-spectrum of road analysts and best chickens along with Andersen consultants with deep skills in the transportation industry to engage in a two-day itinerary of meetings in order to leverage their personal knowledge capital, both tacit and explicit, and to enable them to synergize with each other in order to achieve the implicit goals of delivering and successfully architecting and implementing an enterprise-wide value framework across the continuum of poultry cross-median processes. The meeting was held in a park like setting enabling and creating an impactful environment which was strategically based, industry-focused, and built upon a consistent, clear, and unified market message and aligned with the chicken's mission, vision, and core values. This was conducive towards the creation of a total business integration solution. Andersen Consulting helped the chicken change to become more successful. Johnny Cochr"}, {"response": 139, "author": "Anna", "date": "Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (23:18)", "body": "ROFLOL!!!"}, {"response": 140, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (23:52)", "body": "Anna: \"ROFLOL!!!\" Me Too!!! :-)"}, {"response": 141, "author": "churchh", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (05:21)", "body": "There's a slightly different collection linked to from near the end of the Jane Austen jokes file at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/austt10j.html ; this version includes a Pride and Prejudice version of the chicken joke..."}, {"response": 142, "author": "Mari", "date": "Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (13:11)", "body": "Oh dear... Oh dear... I have to wipe my eyes now to resume my viewing."}, {"response": 143, "author": "Inko", "date": "Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (13:21)", "body": "Another ROFLOL. With your permission, may I e-mail this to my children - they love these things and I usually get jokes from them."}, {"response": 144, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (13:27)", "body": "Oh, Inko. No permission required. I am on a list of one of those infamous net jokers. These things just get passed around. Usually the things she sends are stupid, but if I get an LOL from any of them as I did with this, I shall put them up."}, {"response": 145, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (16:50)", "body": "SAY CHEESE!!! WE ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!!!"}, {"response": 146, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (17:07)", "body": "Ann - I am happy for you. and for all those barechested men in the stands the announcers kept talking about. what a way to call the rest of us sissies."}, {"response": 147, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (17:30)", "body": "There's joy in cheeshead land."}, {"response": 148, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (18:30)", "body": "]There's joy in cheeshead land. Not to mention Beantown!"}, {"response": 149, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (19:18)", "body": "Congratulations Ann (Cheesehead) and Myretta (Beantowner) - it's nice to see some different teams in the Superbowl. Now - are you two going to have a bet on the outcome????;-)"}, {"response": 150, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (19:49)", "body": "Alright, the beaner and the cheeshead toe to toe."}, {"response": 151, "author": "candace", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (20:09)", "body": "Yummmm, does this mean that at all the Super Bowl parties -- Bean dip and Cheese Doritos will be served?"}, {"response": 152, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (20:40)", "body": "Woo-hoo, Ann...maybe it will help you forget last year ? ;)"}, {"response": 153, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (20:43)", "body": "BTW, people...only a month until catchers and pitchers report to Spring Training. Can't wait. Go Braves."}, {"response": 154, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (20:54)", "body": "PLEASE, Mrs. Bennet, no sports, I BEG you! :-("}, {"response": 155, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (22:09)", "body": "That's why I put it in the ramble topic, Joan. It is supposed to be for anything one might want to say. As for me, though I will be cheering for Green Bay, I have absolutely no faith in the team and fully expect them to choke."}, {"response": 156, "author": "Kali", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (00:26)", "body": "Ann, have a little faith! ;) --- Joan, sports can be a very welcome diversion from computers, I must say...I hope to be able to make at least one Giants-Braves series at the 'Stick (okay, 3-Com!) this year...anybody else out there like baseball? ANYBODY???!!!"}, {"response": 157, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (01:11)", "body": "Kali: anybody else out there like baseball? ANYBODY???!!! Kali, I'm a big Detroit Tigers fan, growing up in Michigan it was a part of my childhood training just like ice skating and mosquito slapping! I spent many happy days at Tiger Stadium as a child...can't believe they're going to tear down that beautiful o ld stadium! :-("}, {"response": 158, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (01:49)", "body": "I grew up a Cardinals fan. St. Louis. Busch Stadium. Joe Garagiola, Harry Carey, Jack Buck and Tim McCarver used to broadcast the games on KMOX."}, {"response": 159, "author": "Kali", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (03:13)", "body": "Harry Caray...sigh...I've grown up on Skip Caray... Yay for you guys...baseball lives! And yes, Cheryl...stadiumwrecking is a crying shame...I had the displeasure of seeing Comiskey in varying degrees of demolition whilst the new Comiskey was constructed...almost like the life was being sucked out of the old stadium and being pumped into the new..."}, {"response": 160, "author": "geekman", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (03:41)", "body": "Congratulations Ann or should I say Slart ? So your team is in the final. Well, the beleaguered Australian One Day Cricket Team has missed out on the World Series Cricket Finals for the first time in 17 years! And on top of that is the New South Wales Shield Team losing very badly to Western Australia , in their Sheffield Shield match at the Sydney Cricket Ground. Now let me tell yo all that when NSW Cricket is strong, Australia is strong! So come on NSW and Come On Aussie ! Oh, Cheryl , now if you would really like to see some venerable old grounds, come and see our grand stands at our Cricket Grounds!"}, {"response": 161, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (03:44)", "body": "I drove by some folks playing cricket in Austin the other day. Will you please start a cricket topic in the sports conference Ian?"}, {"response": 162, "author": "geekman", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (03:51)", "body": "If you'd like me too, Terry! BTW, what are you doing up at this hour?!? Now if you were in Australia... :-)"}, {"response": 163, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (04:42)", "body": "I had to come in to work early today because we're facing an ice storm and the company I work for is on a crash project and need everyone they can to be here. I'm not normally up at this hour. Have you seen that austen is the feature on the Spring's main page today? If I were in Australia I'd probably be warmer now."}, {"response": 164, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (07:47)", "body": "Another connection, Cheryl. I grew up as a Tiger fan too. Stormin' Norman Cash, Al Kaline (saw him hit a grand slam once), my mother's heartthrob, Rocky Colavito (sp?) And Terry, you lived in St. Louis? Me from 76-80. End of the Lou Brock days, hot muggy afternoons in left field. Attended the 7th game of the 80 world series."}, {"response": 165, "author": "Mari", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (12:40)", "body": "Kali, gang; live in Milwaukee, and my hubby was one of the many enjoying themselves at 1 degree above zero yesterday (although I hope, I very much hope, NOT one of the barechested ones! :) ) Anyway, baseball is my game; started as a Braves fan (yes, here in Milwaukee when I was just a sprig), have become a Brewers fan. I can enjoy any baseball game; when we vacation outside of Duluth in the summer we go to Duluth Dukes games; fabulous fun, e specially if the San Diego chicken is visiting."}, {"response": 166, "author": "yairl", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (14:19)", "body": "i've got to know how to make a good pizza any ideas????????"}, {"response": 167, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (14:51)", "body": "Must have a stone, Yair. That is the first thing -- unless you are doing deep disih. Amy Who Used to Live in Chicago"}, {"response": 168, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (15:27)", "body": "Amy: Another connection, Cheryl. I grew up as a Tiger fan too. Stormin' Norman Cash, Al Kaline (saw him hit a grand slam once), my mother's heartthrob, Rocky Colavito (sp?) Cool, Amy...I still look back on my 9th birthday as very special...I spent it with my Mom at Tiger Stadium watching a Twi-Night Double header against the hated Yankees...Tigers won both games, Al Kaline hit a homer in one, Mickey Lolich got a one-hitter i n the other and the Tigers went on to win the Series that year ('68,of course, not '84!) Can still sing the Tiger fight song I learned in 4th grade...\"Sock it to 'em Tigers, show 'em how to play...)"}, {"response": 169, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (17:29)", "body": "Not 'Teach me tiger', Cheryl????"}, {"response": 170, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (17:36)", "body": "We're all behind our baseball team. Go get em tigers. Right? Go get em, Detroit Tigers. Go get em Tigers!"}, {"response": 171, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (19:14)", "body": "I like the Saint Paul Saints--Northern League team that put the fun back into going to see baseball games. They are a total hoot. (Daryl Strawberry slept here)"}, {"response": 172, "author": "lilah", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (19:44)", "body": "Terry, Amy -- St. Louis is my home town. I remember seeing Stan Musial play at old Sportsman's Park (I was a tiny child, OK?) There ARE no announcers to compare with Jack Buck and Harry Caray describing the game on a hot August night on KMOX -- \"this is t he Cardinal baseball network.\""}, {"response": 173, "author": "Kali", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (19:48)", "body": "Yay! More baseball fans! Wow, Mari...you're an even older Bravie than I am...I got hooked back in the eighties, when they still sucked...a great time to love baseball, b/c every game was personal. Fay Vincent was even threatening to review our status as an Atlanta team! I still have my Dale Murphy baseball card collection...over 300 cards, including his two rookie cards and one I got autographed. --- Good pizza? Zachary's stuffed is the best...they make their dough with beer and put the sauce on top and the toppings inside (go figure)...unfortunately, you can only get Zack's in Oakland and Berkeley...:("}, {"response": 174, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (23:14)", "body": "Talking, pizza : fav : thin crust with pesto, goat cheese, green and black olives, onions, prosciutto and walnuts. Other one is curried chicken pizza If you're in the vicinity of Montreal, go or order at Pizzedelic."}, {"response": 175, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (08:27)", "body": "Another Braves fan here! The Murph was great, also BRUUUUCE Benedict and Jeff Treadway and Lonnie Smith (so what if he fell for the deke--they should have been able to get him home). Go Braves!!!"}, {"response": 176, "author": "Mari", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (16:16)", "body": "LLohr (lilah)''There ARE no announcers to compare with Jack Buck and Harry Caray describing the game on a hot August night on KMOX -- \"this is the Cardinal baseball network.\"'' Lilah, I beg to differ; there is nothing like driving home from your summer vacation and enjoying Bob Uecker announcing the Sunday afternoon Brewer's game...''Get up..Get up.. Get outta here....''"}, {"response": 177, "author": "lilah", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (18:10)", "body": "Mari, I'd just about settle for any announcer describing any game...are football and basketball seasons over yet???"}, {"response": 178, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (22:06)", "body": "I grew up in Minnesota BEFORE the Twins and the Vikes, so am thrilled the 'Pack is Back'. Saw my first major league game in Tiger (then Briggs) Stadium because that's one of the things we always did when we visited our Detroit relatives. Great memories. .are they really going to tear that wonderful stadium down, can't believe it."}, {"response": 179, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (22:56)", "body": "Moved to collapse topics: Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (10:14) | Laura McCarthy ( LauraM ) Sorry, but I must do this. GO PATS!!!!!!! JAMBALYA YA JAMBALAYA YA.... Think of me doing a really stupid dance right now. 4 responses total."}, {"response": 1, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (10:22)", "body": "Good. Laura, I am happy for you. Thanks for sharing, dear. Sincerely. (But can we have a little talk about willynilly topic creation/)"}, {"response": 2, "author": "Mari", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (17:12)", "body": "Laura; go to the Ramble topic; we are having quite the sports dicussion over there; of course you'll have to excuse us Wisconsinites if we don't join in your cheer;))"}, {"response": 3, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (17:27)", "body": "Go Pack!!!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "Becks", "date": "Tue, Jan 14, 1997 (22:17)", "body": "Football in a JA bulletin board!!! Insupportable!!!!"}, {"response": 180, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (00:43)", "body": "Yep, Meggin...Lonnie Smith remains my all-time favorite left-fielder. And Bruce one of my favorite catchers...and Jeff Treadway my favorite second-baseman. BTW, I have one of Jeffy's broken bats...something only the biggest fan would want, considering h is relative obscurity! ;) Oh, and Jeff Blauser is also a god...because he's a Californian...;)"}, {"response": 181, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (00:45)", "body": "Oh, and Laura...I support your Patriot Victory Topic... :::) Solidarity among the sportsfans!"}, {"response": 182, "author": "McBruce", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (01:59)", "body": "Cheryl and Amy- how could you forget Denny Maclean? And not a bad piano player for a jock. What I remember best about Tiger stadium was the smell of the Wonder bread factory on the way in, cruising the Lodge with the windows down. And CKLW on the AM radio."}, {"response": 183, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (02:30)", "body": "Bruce: Cheryl and Amy- how could you forget Denny Maclean? Bruce! Another Michigander has come out of the closet! ;-) I have not forgot Dennt McClain, they could not have won the '68 Series without him! But it was Lolich who won the game I was describing. ;-) I hadn't thought of the Wonder Bread factory in ye ars! Thanks for the reminder! Fresh bread--what a wonderful smell!"}, {"response": 184, "author": "Anna", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (05:13)", "body": "Nice collapse Amy :-)"}, {"response": 185, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (06:12)", "body": "] forget Denny Maclean? __ Hey Bruce. Another link. Tigers and Bob Seger. Nice combo. Denny MaClean, the million dollar arm with the 10 cent attitude. re the Lodge: kid story about that another time. Where did you guys grow up? Me, in Mt. Pleasant, but I worked in Detroit for a couple of years right out of college (Central Michigan)"}, {"response": 186, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (06:41)", "body": "We have a Tiger Wood topic in sports by the way, the sports conference here."}, {"response": 187, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (06:46)", "body": "Did I say we had a sports topic here? I believe a Pats topic would be supportablee there, my dear."}, {"response": 188, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (06:49)", "body": "I meant of course, sports *conference*. Imagine, an entire conference devoted to sports and austenites are more than welcome to elucidate on any topic there."}, {"response": 189, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (11:39)", "body": "Amy: Where did you guys grow up? A Michigan Revival Meeting, eh? ;-) I grew up in Pontiac, a blue collar factory town, about 1/2 mile from the Fischer Body plant...walked many a picket line in my youth...;-)"}, {"response": 190, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (12:28)", "body": "Grew up in Albany, New York.............but left in 73'."}, {"response": 191, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (12:41)", "body": "And for the favorite pizza person........ i found that it you use the pilsbury pizza dough it is pretty good, brush it with olive oil and heat it up first with nothing on it for about 3 to 5 minutesR 350 DEGREES then add just all fresh ingrediants......fresh tomatoes, parley, basil, oregano, thyme and ground pepper (both red and black).....Crushed red pepper is ok if you cannot find whole to grind..... then chopped onions, green and red peppers, sliced mushrooms..... then add a fresh ground italian sausage or a good hard sliced peperoni cover with a mixture of cheeses 50% shredded mozzerella and the other 50% a mixture of romano, parmasian, provalone and white chedder return to oven until cheese is melted........"}, {"response": 192, "author": "yairl", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (18:55)", "body": "thanks tj but after having second thoughts about it i think i'll keep on letting dominos do the hard work. does anyone know anything about bangkok thailand i'm going to go there and i can realy use some guiding ."}, {"response": 193, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (21:20)", "body": "Kali, send me a splinter sometime! :)"}, {"response": 194, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 15, 1997 (21:58)", "body": "You got it, Meggin! :)"}, {"response": 195, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (15:06)", "body": "Boy am I an outsider here! Never seen a game of baseball or whatever you're talking of with such eagerness.( Small chance in Sweden .) Have copied and saved those two delicious sounding pizza variations, though. And thanks Hilary for Tiger memento..."}, {"response": 196, "author": "Kali", "date": "Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (15:42)", "body": "Come visit, Ann2, and we'll go to a game..."}, {"response": 197, "author": "candace", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (00:16)", "body": "It was thirty years ago that we all met. Five very silly fourteen year old girls. Together we practiced for womanhood. Clothes, make-up, and boys. Little did we know that what really prepared us for the future was the simple act of being together. We would talk deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping sodas. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. We grew up together, the five of us. Transforming from girls to young women. We ran gaily then. Each of us, one by one meeting, falling in love, and marrying our soul-mates. Those years were filled with bridal showers, weddings, baby showers, and chil d-birth. After each milestone we would gather, talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our heeks. We went head-strong into our thirties. Each developing a new found independence and calmness which comes when you have finally begun to feel comfortable with yourself. Our careers were established, our children growing, and all five marriages still stro ng. We had all done our jobs well. It was no problem to leave our families for short periods of time. It was then that we began our \"Enchanted April\" weekends. Off to the mountains or the ocean. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and choc late, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. Our thirties began to come to a close. Each time that we would meet, we would sound like a Jane Austen novel -- \"How is your mother?\" \"How is your father?\" -- this would follow with tales of illnesses and hospitals. When or how our chain calls started, I don't really remember. It was a instinctive reaction designed so that the sufferer would not have to repeat their story more than once. One would call the other, each in turn. \"One of us is hurting\" we would tell the next until we made a complete cir le. Again, we would gather. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. One by one our parents began to leave us. We held hands and our breath and tip-toed into our forties. We now gathered most often at our parent's funerals. Although our husbands tried to comfort us, it was the five of us that we would seek. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and cho colate, sipping wine. We spoke of our hopes, dreams, and fears. Always starting so seriously and always ending in laughter with tears running down our cheeks. Just this week another mile-stone has occurred. One of us became a widow. How can this be? Up until this moment, we all still remained with our one and only husbands. How lucky we were -- how well we choose -- how smug we were -- how fearful we are. Did we never think that this type of tragedy would happen? All along the chain call, each one said the same thing, \"I am so scared. We now must face the facts. There will be a time when one by one we will start loosing each other.\" Tomarrow we will bury her husband. After the sevices, when everyone else leaves, we will remain. Talking deep into the night. Eating junk food and chocolate, sipping wine. Speaking of our hopes, dreams, and fears. We will start out quite serious and somehow end laughing. Funny how there will still be tears enough to run down our cheeks. Thank you for letting me ramble."}, {"response": 198, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (02:03)", "body": "Oh, Candace - that is absolutely beautiful. Now where is that box of tissue! Please do share this with your five-some, too."}, {"response": 199, "author": "TJ", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (09:52)", "body": "Candace..........THANKS"}, {"response": 200, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (11:34)", "body": "Candace, it should really be the other way around....I thank you for letting me follow your rambling. I feel an ache in my throat and my eyes are a bit dim. This past autume my mother died and I miss her so. This life is ours to handle with care, and the way you and your friends do it together is just.... Oddly, I find it comforting that it is the same for us whoever or whereever... We must part from the one's we love. Better think of it now and then..."}, {"response": 201, "author": "elder", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (12:22)", "body": "Candace -- what a beautiful \"ramble\" on the blessings of friends. Our thoughts are with you and your friends as you pass another milestone. (And my prayers are with your one friend who is going through this painful time.) Thank you for wanting to share this w/ us."}, {"response": 202, "author": "Inko", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (16:09)", "body": "Thank you Candace for rambling and sharing so beautifully. When you think of the sadness, though, also consider the blessings of having five such good friends. It's so rare that friends can stay together through all the stages of their lives."}, {"response": 203, "author": "lilah", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (18:34)", "body": "Candace, that was moving, eloquent and beautiful. How lucky you are to have such friends to see each other through the inevitabilities of life. I lost my beloved father in August; watched my mom struggle with the transition into widowhood. That's when I saw the rituals and the resulting strength that a group of women friends give to each other, and that's when I realized I truly believe in a sisterhood. Thanks for sharing with us."}, {"response": 204, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (22:28)", "body": "Candace, my father died last week. The first person I really talked to about it was my best friend--her father died 18 months ago. We've been best buddy's since jr. high--a long time ago. Yet she still knows me better than anyone else, despite the fact that we now live miles apart. How lucky you are to have a group of friends to help support each other in time of need. No one else could make me laugh last week, but my friend Kathy could. That is what best friends are for."}, {"response": 205, "author": "Kali", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (23:33)", "body": "Everyone, I hate to break the sisterly mood created by Candace's lovely ramble, but it was recently revealed that our own Saman just got into medical school! Congratulations..."}, {"response": 206, "author": "Amy", "date": "Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (23:50)", "body": "Meggin, I am so sorry. Yours and Candace's story make me even more thankful my own mother is better all the time -- just learned two days ago that a heart oblation procedure done a few weeks ago had been successful even though at the time the doctors pron ounced it a failure. S'man, I am very very happy for you. I know how much you wanted this. You deserve it."}, {"response": 207, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (11:52)", "body": "\"...our own Saman just got into medical school! Congratulations... \" WOW This is so exciting - where will you do to school!!"}, {"response": 208, "author": "Becks", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (12:42)", "body": "Way to go Saman!! I'm so sorry. Margaret."}, {"response": 209, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (14:07)", "body": "My sympathies, Margaret, and all others who have recently lost family members or friends. It's a difficult time, I know, when good friends are invaluable. Congratulations, Saman! Does this mean we'll now have an \"ER\" topic here??"}, {"response": 210, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (16:51)", "body": "Candace, that is one of the most eloquent, touching ramblings I have experienced. I have a photo in my family album of a group of women I know who match this description very closely. I miss having a similar relationship in my own life and it is touching to hear about it in anothers life. That's the photo on the left of the women I spoke, that's Ann Evans the bride, ex-mayor of Davis California who married a delightful Englishman named David. They are still living in Davis, CA as far as a I know. These women all grew up together. I'm very glad our week long task to put out the new Webstalker has been completed and the product is now being shipped out to reviewers and beta testers. This is the first free moment I've had in well over a week. I'm hoping to get together with the Unix team and the folks who inhabit this community today and tomorrow before I go back to the intense development effort I'm involved in right now. I'm sitting in my office/master bedroom in Cedar Creek looking out over the woods and pastures, feeling good. I've got the Wide World of Sports Ice Skating on the tube, this is one of the most esthetic and relaxing sports to watch. (more about this in a future ice skating topic in the sports conference). Ekaterina Gordeeva is skating now, what a fine skater."}, {"response": 211, "author": "Anna", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (17:24)", "body": "Margaret, please accept my sympathy. ] it was recently revealed that our own Saman just got into medical school! That's great Saman, will you be starting this year? You must be really busy as well as please. I hope you'll still be able to join us occaisionally if y ou have to relocate. Amy, I'm really glad to hear your mother is improving."}, {"response": 212, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (17:53)", "body": "Happy birthday Kathleen Elder!"}, {"response": 213, "author": "lilah", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (19:24)", "body": "Margaret, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family."}, {"response": 214, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (19:45)", "body": "Margaret - I am very sorry you lost your father. Hope you and the rest of your family ware getting through this."}, {"response": 215, "author": "candace", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (21:17)", "body": "Thank you to everyone for the responses to my essay. In truth, what I really thank you for is this wonderful forum and all my wonderful cyber friends. This was truly the best therapy. To Margaret -- I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my own father five years ago. I know exactly what you feel. Peace be with you all."}, {"response": 216, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (21:26)", "body": "Thanks to all for the expressions of sympathy. You have touched my heart."}, {"response": 217, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (08:22)", "body": "Margaret, otan osaa, as they say here in Finland. It could roughly be translated as \"I take a piece of your sorrow and carry it with me\", and means that I am very, very sorry about your father. Keep on smiling, though. Despite many things the world still is a beautiful place."}, {"response": 218, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (09:21)", "body": "otan osaa __ That is lovely Mixu"}, {"response": 219, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (19:31)", "body": "Terry, figure skating ranks right along with P&P on my list of things I really enjoy. Saturday the 'Stars on Ice' were in town and a group of 8 of us went to dinner and the show. The evening flew by and it is difficult to pick out the best, but Ecaterina's numbers were very special. Torvil and Dean were an awesome presence in the show. Hope some of the other contributors to this board have the opportunity to see this wonderful production. And thanks to you Terry for providing this great home for all f us."}, {"response": 220, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (19:32)", "body": "Terry, figure skating ranks right along with P&P on my list of things I really enjoy. Saturday the 'Stars on Ice' were in town and a group of 8 of us went to dinner and the show. The evening flew by and it is difficult to pick out the best, but Ecaterina's numbers were very special. Torvil and Dean were an awesome presence in the show. Hope some of the other contributors to this board have the opportunity to see this wonderful production. And thanks to you Terry for providing this great home for all f us."}, {"response": 221, "author": "MaryC", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (19:32)", "body": "Oops, sorry for the extra post."}, {"response": 222, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Mon, Jan 20, 1997 (21:52)", "body": "I would kill (well almost) to see Torvil and Dean in person!"}, {"response": 223, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Wed, Jan 22, 1997 (23:47)", "body": "Candace, let me tell you how very deeply touched I was by your \"ramble\", frienship, family and the act of sharing is at the core of the soul. Margaret, accept these thoughts of peace. Loosing someone close, whether one who's life as been a long fulfilled road or, has we experienced last week, loosing a little one who had so much to experience, is never easy. Let us rejoyce in the happiness of their newfound home/salvation. Amy, all my wishes of health for your mother."}, {"response": 224, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (08:03)", "body": "Amy, I am glad you liked the expression. I think the reason why we have \"otan osaa\" is because if we said \"Olen pahoillani\" (meaning \"I am sorry\") it would mean that I did the thing I am sorry for. Anyway, I like \"otan osaa\" myself. It even sounds nice. I just happen to love Finnish, and feel myself very fortunate that I have it as a 1st language."}, {"response": 225, "author": "Meggin", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (12:25)", "body": "Mixu, I greatlly appreciate the kind sentiment expressed by \"otan osaa\". All of the words of sympathy expressed for me and my family have meant more to me than I could ever have believed possible. You all don't know me and you didn't know my father, yet so many of you have made such an effort to let me know that you care. I am overwhelmed by all of this. Johanne, you write of losing a little one. How terrible. My father was old and sick and in pain and I take a great deal of comfort in the thought that he is in a better place, having lived a full life with many joys. Johanne, my heart aches for you."}, {"response": 226, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (16:16)", "body": "Just to make things clear, I personnaly did not loose my child this past week, heaven forbid, I would'nt be able to be here at all, wondering if I would have any sanity left in such a short time. But my dear friend did loose her very soon expected baby and having lost one myself a couple of years ago, it stirred up memories. So close to the miracle of life but taken away a nano-second before. No choice but to confort ourselves with beliefs of a better place for them and the faith in a destiny much bigger than our mere comprehension may aloud. Thanks."}, {"response": 227, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 1997 (16:24)", "body": "Most people have no idea how much of a loss a miscarriage can be -- at any stage."}, {"response": 228, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (10:06)", "body": "Most people also do not realise that 25-33% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. With such I high number, it should be more widely known."}, {"response": 229, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (15:51)", "body": "AN ANNOUNCEMENT I have, this day, taken down all my Christmas decorations!!! *Applause* (Thank you, thank you very much! Now I just have to get it carried out to the garage!)"}, {"response": 230, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (16:23)", "body": "That is very good ,Cheryl . I have still the tree as it is so fresh and smells so good; I have not had the heart to throw it away. But I took away the last x-mas cloth the other day and have only kept one electric candlestick in the kitchen-window to brighten our dark and early mornings in January."}, {"response": 231, "author": "elder", "date": "Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (23:56)", "body": "Cheryl & Ann2 -- with both of your messages blinking at the same speed, I began to feel that Christmas was still here! To any interested viewers of CF movies: I recently loaned my copy of \"Dutch Girls\" to Mari. If you are interested in viewing it, let me know via email (kelder@miworld.net for home or k_elder@fre.fsu.umd.edu for work). I can ask Mari to send it to you when she has finished watching it. As long as I get it back sometime, I would be happy to share."}, {"response": 232, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (02:36)", "body": "ANTI-SUPER BOWL PARTY Grace and I were talking at Pemberley today, bemoaning a full day of the Football Fan's High Holy Day, when we decided that we should hold our own party at Pemberley! The madness, I mean game begins at 6pm EST, but the Pregame crap, I mean festivities start hours and hours before that. So the official party shall begin at 4pm EST, earlier if you cannot stand anymore of John Madden! ;-) Y'all come!"}, {"response": 233, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (09:13)", "body": "Who in your opinion was worse Dandy Don,Howard or John Madden?"}, {"response": 234, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (09:19)", "body": "Wow, Super Sunday is here. And we have cheeseheads and anti-Superbowl partyin'. Are you going to have your own anti-Superbowl half time show with entertainment?"}, {"response": 235, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (09:19)", "body": "If you are not watching but only hearing the noise, Madden's yelling is really grating. But! I don't have a football husband anymore. Yay!!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 236, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (09:20)", "body": "Hey, Terry, we posted at the same time. Are you a football fan? If you have time, would you look in deeper?"}, {"response": 237, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (09:21)", "body": "Madden's comments on the web are naive and comical. \"How do you dot com something?\""}, {"response": 238, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (09:22)", "body": "Amy throws a pass and Terry goes deep..."}, {"response": 239, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (09:32)", "body": "What?"}, {"response": 240, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (16:15)", "body": "Missed signal. Let's try that play again."}, {"response": 241, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (16:29)", "body": "Cheryl, I am here. Where are you?? Your thoughts (in chat yesterday)about Darcy as a quarterback have sparked my interest in the game, football...that is. But remember...if you get to be the team masseuse, I get to do the locker room interviews, up close and oh so personal. One more thing.....about those whirlpool tubs for the athletes...are you sure they accommodate two comfortably???"}, {"response": 242, "author": "Grace", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (16:32)", "body": "Cheryl, I am here. Where are you?? Your thoughts (in chat yesterday)about Darcy as a quarterback have sparked my interest in the game, football...that is. But remember...if you get to be the team masseuse, I get to do the locker room interviews, up close and oh so personal. One more thing.....about those whirlpool tubs for the athletes...are you sure they accommodate two comfortably???"}, {"response": 243, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Jan 26, 1997 (18:00)", "body": "Grace: One more thing.....about those whirlpool tubs for the athletes...are you sure they accommodate two comfortably??? Some things are worth a little discomfort! ;-) (and I'm at Pemberley now...where are you, dearie?)"}, {"response": 244, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Mon, Jan 27, 1997 (01:20)", "body": "Sorry, I missed that party,Cheryl and Grace. But from what I hear it was not totally without sports, eyh eyh, nudge,wink?"}, {"response": 245, "author": "Grace", "date": "Mon, Jan 27, 1997 (09:03)", "body": "Ann, Mostly we made sport of the Neanderthals sitting in front of the tube whooping and hollering over such a stupid game. You'll be pleased to know that after much discussion, we also did reach some consensus about those Lycra pants the gentlemen wear on the gridiron. Should have been there!"}, {"response": 246, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (00:37)", "body": "Congratulations, Kali! On receiving her first law school acceptance letter But we never had any doubt."}, {"response": 247, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (01:04)", "body": "Thank you, Amy dearest, for your encouragement and optimism. You're great! :)"}, {"response": 248, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (01:23)", "body": "Brava Kali"}, {"response": 249, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (02:05)", "body": "tHip Hip Hooray! (Which school was it?)"}, {"response": 250, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (02:06)", "body": "Hip Hip Hooray! (Which school was it?)"}, {"response": 251, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (02:06)", "body": "Hey! I did not post that twice - though it does bear repeating. ;-)"}, {"response": 252, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (02:20)", "body": "I have only one thing to say to you, my dearest niece... YAHOOOOOO!!!!"}, {"response": 253, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (02:48)", "body": "THanks guys! It was Georgetown, Joan...:)"}, {"response": 254, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (07:19)", "body": "But, of course, I'm not at all surprised. Congratulations daughter."}, {"response": 255, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (12:59)", "body": "Was it not Mr Bingley who found it amazing that young ladies can have patience to be so very accomplished?! And in our midst are several very accomplished, who also posess a certain something in their air, their adress and expressions. They study law, go to medical school and I know not what! Good luck, Kali! (Just saw you in Best of chat!)And Saman too!"}, {"response": 256, "author": "elder", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (13:14)", "body": "Congrats, Kali -- and may you receive many more happy responses! I hope you have a large field of choices (although Georgetown is certainly not too shabby)."}, {"response": 257, "author": "Mari", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (13:15)", "body": "Kali, Saman; go to it, girls!"}, {"response": 258, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (13:41)", "body": "Isn't this great? We are all so proud, like a bunch of mother hens. It is sweet."}, {"response": 259, "author": "Inko", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (15:37)", "body": "CONGRATULATIONS Kali -- Georgetown is really great. Starting with the cream of the crop!! Congratulations also to Saman. What a bright bunch we have here - nice to know the next generation is in good hands!!;-)"}, {"response": 260, "author": "kendall", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (16:13)", "body": "Georgetown!! Great. congratulations, Kali"}, {"response": 261, "author": "alix", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (17:57)", "body": "Congrats, Kali! I'm a UGA person, myself, but Georgetown is an awsome school. Just one question, what is a Hoya, exactly? I've heard so many things from people who go to Harrison High School as to what it is, but those Harrison people usually have problems with that whole collective reasoning/agreement thing! Sorry to those that I've offended, but at least McEachern can agree on their mascot. One more question, has anyone noticed that allmost all Latin teachers are either nutty absent minded professor types, or grandmothers-from-hell? Just a thought."}, {"response": 262, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (18:59)", "body": "Latin teachers? Our Latin teacher in high school was a messy genius type. Here at Cal, Professor Knapp is very normal. He's married, with kids, and very nice. so, you're a Dawg (woof woof woof!), Laura? Oh...and a hoya is actually a retaining wall (selected by students long, long, ago...). It has nothing to do with the bulldog that the athletic department took on as a mascot. --- Thank you for your interest and encouragement, guys...you're great!!!"}, {"response": 263, "author": "Ann", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (19:24)", "body": "A hoya is a certain way of throwing a frisbee: Hold the frisbee with your first and second fingers on the inside with the second finger along the inside of the rim, place your thumb on the top of the frisbee, then hold the frisbee in a vertical position (perpendicular to the ground) over your shoulder, then in a motion similar to a baseball throw throw the frisbee with strength and with a flick of the wrist high into the air. The frisbee will then invert and float upside-down back to the earth--that is a oya!"}, {"response": 264, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (20:19)", "body": "A hoya is an ornamental plant that grows well in hanging baskets and has tiny star-shaped flowers."}, {"response": 265, "author": "Susan", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (21:55)", "body": "Kali, I haven't been on here long, but want to say Congrats! Georgetown is pretty cool . . . and you must be pretty smart! But then we already knew that. Enjoyed seeing your picture."}, {"response": 266, "author": "Kali", "date": "Tue, Jan 28, 1997 (22:15)", "body": "Thank you, Susan! Glad you liked the pic. Ann, Joan, I had no idea that a \"hoya\" was so many things! The Hoya Laura was refering to is the official Georgetown \"mascot\"...which is not a dog, but a retaining wall. I know not why that was chosen by early Georgetown students."}, {"response": 267, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (00:08)", "body": "WOW OF THE DAY! Henry's Jane Austen Info site was featured Monday on CNN Interactive: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9701/27/on.the.net/austen/ You know what I think is neat? That sometimes, once in a while, good content is discovered and recognized on its own merit. Nice job, Henry. You deserve the recognition."}, {"response": 268, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (03:29)", "body": "Woo-hoo, H..."}, {"response": 269, "author": "elder", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (07:09)", "body": "That CNN write up is \"mah-ve-lous\" !!! Good work HC -- who's your publicist? ; )"}, {"response": 270, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (11:55)", "body": "Congratulations Kali.......i did not notice but were you one of the non fans for football.......(I guess i could read back a bit and find out).........but to many of us out here Georgetown is to Basketball what Notre Dame is to Football.....hope you like b-ball........not just the fact they are two great catholic colleges......... Also has anyone tried to make either of the pizza's yet...........been curious to find out if you liked it"}, {"response": 271, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (13:14)", "body": "Cool, HC! ;-)"}, {"response": 272, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (14:30)", "body": "THank you, TJ...I like football alright, i guess...basketball even less...but then again, I don't go to school for the athletic departments! ;)"}, {"response": 273, "author": "Inko", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (16:51)", "body": "Congratulations! HC. That's great publicity and a really nice write-up. IMHO You deserve all the accolades you can accumulate for your pages!"}, {"response": 274, "author": "Inko", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (16:52)", "body": "Congratulations! HC. That's great publicity and a really nice write-up. IMHO You deserve all the accolades you can accumulate for your pages!"}, {"response": 275, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Jan 29, 1997 (21:40)", "body": "Inko is obviously very excited! :)"}, {"response": 276, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (03:57)", "body": "Congratulations , Kali! (This is the 1st time I use blink... Take a deep breath and embrace yourself, because you deserve it (hug yourself for me, too!). Save the strength to be used later. I'll try to convince a tonttu (Finnish elf, a guardian spirit of places etc.) to follow you... If you think something invisible is living at your flat, just \"forget\" some food on the table - the tonttu loves it!"}, {"response": 277, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (08:53)", "body": "Hip Hip Hourra Henri If not for your webpages I probably would'nt be here, million thanks and **smoosh**"}, {"response": 278, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (10:07)", "body": "Johanne: million thanks and **smoosh** Johanne dear, is this the French equivelent of a *samooch*? ;-)"}, {"response": 279, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (10:11)", "body": "] Johanne: million thanks and **smoosh** Johanne dear, is this the French equivelent of a *samooch*? ;-) __ Wouldn't that be \"Mmmwwwa!\""}, {"response": 280, "author": "churchh", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (10:15)", "body": "If so, I think it should be spelled \"smouche\""}, {"response": 281, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (11:02)", "body": "Okay, then I guess my \"Mmmwwwa\" would have to be MMMMMMMMoi!"}, {"response": 282, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (11:48)", "body": "Mmouah, Mmouah, Mmouah Amy, I like it very much. Mmouah Henri, and when kissed dearest, something else than the spelling should occupy your thoughts ;) Kissing Fest"}, {"response": 283, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (11:51)", "body": "Well, I think kissing is a fine topic for this place. I'd not be ashamed to have either Ayelet's mom or mine read about it. We start moving the schwinging today."}, {"response": 284, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Thu, Jan 30, 1997 (13:06)", "body": "We're moving the Schwinging?"}, {"response": 285, "author": "Kali", "date": "Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (02:08)", "body": "I'm laughing my a** off as I type!"}, {"response": 286, "author": "candace", "date": "Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (21:31)", "body": "Kali -- A big Congrats!! Oh the places you'll go!!!"}, {"response": 287, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (03:43)", "body": "Thank you, dear Candace and Mixu..."}, {"response": 288, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (10:22)", "body": "What a find :"}, {"response": 289, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (11:02)", "body": "Congratulations, Kali"}, {"response": 290, "author": "Ann2", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (11:39)", "body": "Congratulations to HC on Great CNN presentation ! By the way you must have been doing lots of work on that site this autumn if I remember correctly. I visited and used bibliographies before I found old P&P2 board, in September. Were the colours there then?. Looks nice and inviting."}, {"response": 291, "author": "del", "date": "Mon, Feb 3, 1997 (17:15)", "body": "Relationship No ship, please. Not now. I haven't a captain nor a first mate \ufffd never mind a crew\ufffd It would take all my courage to try a relation inner tube. How about a relation floatie? Frozen margaritas in the pool some sultry summer night? Relation = Relative = Relativity = Energy = ME scared. Time flies when I'm fleeing fun. Marybeth Gradziel June 19, 1995 Reproduction We women need not be alone for long. We can grow friends. Find the right seed. Care for the sprout. and Enjoy the fruit of our labor. Marybeth Gradziel August 22, 1995 Dream Thought I understood it all one night. How men looking for women get mixed up, and flit from one to another \ufffd always looking for more. If only they knew\ufffd Inside every woman is an infinite number of other women just waiting for true love, trust and acceptance, to come out and love the man in an infinite number of womanly ways. Marybeth Gradziel August 24, 1995"}, {"response": 292, "author": "mich", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (16:26)", "body": "Very nice Doug,thanks for sharing"}, {"response": 293, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (19:51)", "body": "OJ verdict is in, not read. I have this terrible feeling something awful is going to happen."}, {"response": 294, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (20:12)", "body": "I wish the media would stop making such a big deal of this. They are now saying that they will delay the President's state of the union address to wait for the reading of the verdict. Where are our priorities, for heaven sake???"}, {"response": 295, "author": "elder", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (20:24)", "body": "I agree, Joan too. I was going to shut off the tv when I heard that there was this conflict about what to cover! (However, the snow/ice storm here cut off the cable before I could get to the remote. :-)) It is delightful to come to this civilized oasis, but I had intended to pay some attention to the President's address. Oh well, maybe I'll be a more informed citizen tomorrow."}, {"response": 296, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (20:25)", "body": "At least ABC is going ahead with the President's address as planned. I plan to compliment them excessively!"}, {"response": 297, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (21:26)", "body": "This is really scarry"}, {"response": 298, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (21:27)", "body": "This is really scarry but on the other hand there's a lot of parodies outthere"}, {"response": 299, "author": "churchh", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (21:39)", "body": "My TV is broken, so I'm listening over NPR -- they haven't broken into the speech to announce the OJ verdict yet ;-)"}, {"response": 300, "author": "churchh", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (21:41)", "body": "Last message outdated -- State of Union solid but unmemorable... OJ verdict: GUILTY!!"}, {"response": 301, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (21:45)", "body": "The ultimate victory! ABC showed the President's entire speech - and then was still able to tune in to the trial just in time to get the verdict live . HA HA HA! Take that CBS and NBC!"}, {"response": 302, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (21:49)", "body": "I'm speechless....."}, {"response": 303, "author": "Inko", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (22:15)", "body": "I stayed on ABC all evening, and never realized that CBS and NBC were not on the President's speech. My feelings about the evening - what else is new???"}, {"response": 304, "author": "Inko", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (22:15)", "body": "I stayed on ABC all evening, and never realized that CBS and NBC were not on the President's speech. My feelings about the evening - what else is new??? Sorry, I'm feeling cynical!!;-)"}, {"response": 305, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Tue, Feb 4, 1997 (23:45)", "body": "I'm speechless....."}, {"response": 306, "author": "Ann", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (00:21)", "body": "Clinton has an excellent sense of timing. He finished exactly as the verdict came in. Now that's a great politician!"}, {"response": 307, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (03:56)", "body": "He's a slick one, he is...;)"}, {"response": 308, "author": "Adi", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (14:22)", "body": "I'm in such a terrible mood, I had to share it with you: yesterday 73 Israeli soldiers were killed when 2 helicopters collided. Seventy-three young men! the majority of them were just twenty years old. they were just born and now they are dead... I know at least 2 of them (there are still 20 more names not published), and the feeling is awful. If they were killed because of the war in Lebanon - I could at least understand it, but they died because of a stupid mistake, and it was a horrible death (there was ammunition on the helicopters, and it caused fire and explosions when it crashed on the ground). everyone here are so sad. almost everyone knew someone that died. I wish things like that will never happen again to anyone in any place."}, {"response": 309, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (14:28)", "body": "That's awful, Adi. Even if they had died in actual battle, would it have been worth it? I doubt it. Most wars today are such ego-vehicles that I have trouble justifying them. And I've always considered myself a hawk."}, {"response": 310, "author": "Inko", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (16:15)", "body": "Deepest sympathy, Adi. It is always bad whenever young people have to die, but in such a horrible crash it seems even worse. Also agree with Kali, death in battle or in a war would not have made it worth it--but then I'm a dove!! I hate all wars and can see no logical reasons for them."}, {"response": 311, "author": "Anne3", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (16:18)", "body": "Adi, I'm terribly sorry. If the helicopters were as explosive as you say, it's likely that they at least died instantly. I hope that's some comfort."}, {"response": 312, "author": "Adi", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (16:42)", "body": "Kali, of course it's not worth it, those lives are so precious. those boys should not die, period. but sometimes you just can't help it - our men soldiers don't \"play\" in war, they are defending our northern border from terrorist attacks and from missiles. so it's understandable to die while you are defending your love ones and practically giving them life. I can assure you that in this case no ego is involved. what's killing me is that those soldiers were the top of the top of the youth in Israel: they were fighters in their way to their missions in Lebanon. they weren't just \"Jobnicks\" [=this is the name to describe the men soldiers who do office jobs like clerks]. they were already risking their life in their jobs protecting the rest of us, so they should have a better destiny than they had..."}, {"response": 313, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (18:22)", "body": "Adi, I can't even begin to imagine how you must feel. But I am so sorry."}, {"response": 314, "author": "kendall", "date": "Wed, Feb 5, 1997 (21:29)", "body": "Adi - I am so sorry. You are bringing the 'other side of the world' closer to all of us."}, {"response": 315, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (10:49)", "body": "Let me had my voice to Inko, Amy and all us in share this pain. We're thinking of you and all who is hurting."}, {"response": 316, "author": "lasalle", "date": "Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (11:26)", "body": "Let me add my sorrow, Adi. Life can be so unfair--the Israeli people have suffered so long; the endless war and persecution. So many Israeli youth gone in past mideast wars. Now, even technology revolts against them. And Israel the only real democratic state in the mideast. The older I get, the more I think the universe was somehow wrongly put together."}, {"response": 317, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (11:34)", "body": "Too many have Carl, Israely and not, whether the're made knowns to us or kept in the back of the medias priorities. Too many innocent victims, especially children."}, {"response": 318, "author": "Adi", "date": "Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (17:50)", "body": "Thank you all for your kind words. Carl, I never thought about it like that but I guess you're right: the universe was wrongly put together. God probably made a mistake when he placed Israel in the middle east. this was another horrible day. most of the funerals took place today. On the radio and T.V there were just quiet and sad songs, and between them - stories about the lives of all the dead soldiers, talks with their families and friends, talks with politicians and basically anything that could make you cry endlessly. I can't take it anymore. I wish this week will be over already."}, {"response": 319, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Thu, Feb 6, 1997 (22:48)", "body": "I just had to stop by before I head to bed to recommend a show I just saw. If \"Riverdance - The Show\" comes to your town, RUN to get tickets! I don't think I've ever had two hours in the theatre pass so fast! I'm not even sure how to explain it to you...its main focus is traditional Irish dance, but there's Russian, Spanish, and American dances as well. The energy level is just phenomenal. Also, in the program there was an ad for \"Tap Dogs\" which will be in town in a couple of weeks. Am I right in remembering that this show was highly recommended here?"}, {"response": 320, "author": "Anna", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (04:03)", "body": "] \"Tap Dogs\" ... was highly recommended here? mmmmnnnnhhhhh! all male, more 'modern' than Riverdance (at least the shows I saw) but definitely worth a look..."}, {"response": 321, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (09:00)", "body": "Kathleen, I have seen these ads for \"Riverdance\" but I think it is to purchase the video. What area are you in? I don't think they are coming here."}, {"response": 322, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (15:56)", "body": "MY CAR JUST GOT STOLEN!!!!!"}, {"response": 323, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (16:01)", "body": "So sorry Ann, hope nothing too valuable in it !"}, {"response": 324, "author": "Anne3", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (16:09)", "body": "Oh, Ann, I'm sorry."}, {"response": 325, "author": "Inko", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (16:12)", "body": "That terrible. I'm so sorry Ann."}, {"response": 326, "author": "Amy", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (16:19)", "body": "That's awful, Ann. What a horrible annoyance x 50 plus disgust and inconvenience and I can't even think what else. Yuck."}, {"response": 327, "author": "elder", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (16:28)", "body": "Oh, Ann, how awful. And it makes you feel so angry, helpless, violated -- a truly rotten experience. Were you at work or home when it happened? I hope you are OK."}, {"response": 328, "author": "Mari", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (17:25)", "body": "Ann, so very aggravating! Ok in body, if not spirit, I hope."}, {"response": 329, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (17:28)", "body": "Ann - That's terrible! Its one of those things that's hard to grasp - you know where you parked it and it takes a minute to register that it's really not there. Donna - I'm in the Detroit area. I don't know where its headed next, but hopefully it will end up near you soon. Anna - I think I'm going to check it out (Tap Dogs). :)"}, {"response": 330, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (19:03)", "body": "My car was parked in the lot in front of my apartment building and was probably stolen sometime last night. The cops were hopeful that they would be able to find it, but I doubt it. This is actually the second car that I've had stolen. The first one was stolen from my brother at gunpoint. The cops eventually recovered that one and the thief got 4 years in jail. Now I've lost another one. It is a pain in the neck to be carless. At least the weather won't be too bad for the next few days, so walking won't b too bad. Thanks for your messages."}, {"response": 331, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (19:39)", "body": "That's really bad news Ann. I hope you were covered and you get some new wheels soon. What kind of car was it?"}, {"response": 332, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (19:50)", "body": "1989 Jeep Cherokee Limited Edition with tinted windows and leather seats! I inherited it from my parents when they bought a Land Rover. It is a very popular car among thieves, but is getting on in years. I don't think there is any chance that I will be able to replace it with a comperable vehicle."}, {"response": 333, "author": "Donna", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (20:14)", "body": "Very sad indeed Ann. I do hope you get it back."}, {"response": 334, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (20:19)", "body": "Ann, what a bummer!"}, {"response": 335, "author": "Susan", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (22:20)", "body": "Ann, I'm somewhat new here -- where do you live? I'm so sorry to hear about your rig; Jeep Cherokees are cool. You have a good attitude about it, though. Hang in there and keep your chin up."}, {"response": 336, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (22:37)", "body": "I live in Minneapolis, not the best place to be carless in the middle of winter. I figure that there is nothing I can do about it. It's just going to be a pain in the butt to get it replaced!"}, {"response": 337, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (23:14)", "body": "I lived and worked in Mpls without a car for about a year. I worked as a city planner till I left there in a schoolbus that I recycled into an \"rv\". Bought it from the Owatonna School district. But that was then. In today's world, getting around in a good car is more of a necessity. I really liked the town, I met some very good people there."}, {"response": 338, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (00:07)", "body": "Will be sending good thoughts your way, Ann. Keep thinking positive. Hope this next week brings better things."}, {"response": 339, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (03:44)", "body": "Suck."}, {"response": 340, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (14:05)", "body": "Good news : THEY FOUND MY CAR!!! I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know how much damage was done. I know they broke a window and had to damage the ignition to start it. Thanks to everybody for your support, I'm sure it showed up so quickly because I had so many people thinking about it across the world. Thanks to all!"}, {"response": 341, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (14:06)", "body": "I didn't realise that yapp takes the word news and makes it into a link!!!"}, {"response": 342, "author": "elder", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (14:28)", "body": "Ann, that's terrific. I hope you can get your car fixed and functional really soon. Glad you didn't have to wait too long to find out about it, either."}, {"response": 343, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (15:41)", "body": "Ann, it's wonderful!!! You did get lots of instant support, and I'm sure it helped."}, {"response": 344, "author": "Becks", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (16:38)", "body": "Hope everything works out, Ann!"}, {"response": 345, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (16:45)", "body": "Gee, maybe we should start charging -- strangers, that is -- for this psychic service. Woman power. Be afraid. (Hil, did you start that \"be very afraid\" stuff?\") Very glad to hear it, Ann."}, {"response": 346, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (19:27)", "body": "Ann, So glad they found your car. Hope it'll be driveable soon!! There is a terrific review of P&P2 in today's NY Times by Christoper Lehmann-Haupt, a book reviewer. He compares P&P2 to the book and likes it very well indeed, better than any other Austen adaptation. Link is: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/arts/tv-austen-review.html"}, {"response": 347, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (19:37)", "body": "That is an increadible review!! (By the way, you probably have to register at the NYTimes site before you can view the stories there. I would heartily recommend that you do. The NYTimes site is one of the best newspapers on the web and includes most, if not all, of the printed paper (including the crossword puzzle!!))"}, {"response": 348, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (20:06)", "body": "I have sent the NYTimes a E-letter in response to this article. I thought I would share it with all of you: Dear Sir or Madam, Your reporter, Christopher Lehmann-Haupt, is not the first to fall in love with the BBC/A&E production of Pride and Prejudice. This production in particular, and Jane Austen in general, has a large and loyal following on the internet. There are several sites which have been founded specifically for the purpose of discussing this production, and which have subsequently been broadened to include all of the works of Jane Austen. Other sites have been established solely to provide information and access to Au ten's works on the internet. Some of the URL's are as follows: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeinfo.html http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/austen/all/new (requires registration) http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wwwboard/ppbb.html It is suprising to me that she, of all authors, has such a strong following in cyberspace. I am continually amazed by the wide variety of Jane Austen information available on the internet, as well as the variety of people interested in her work. The virtual community which has been created around an interest in Jane Austen includes men and women, it includes people from the age of nine to well over sixty, and spans several continents and languages. It represents the best of what the internet can be by bringing together so many people in so many different walks of life, races, and cultures. We have come together and have indeed formed a community. We cry together when one of us suffers from a loss of a loved one, and we celebrate when one of us pa ses a milestone in life. We support eachother, even though few of us have ever met or even know what the others look like. We are grateful to Miss Austen for giving us the reason come together, and are grateful to the BBC/A&E production for introducing so many of us to her work. I am glad that your paper has recognised this wonderful production, which has brought so many people to enjoy Pride and Prejudice and Jane Austen, and which has brought so many of us together in cyberspace. Thank you, Ann Elizabeth Haker haker001@tc.umn.edu"}, {"response": 349, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (21:47)", "body": "As Lizzie would say \"Beautiful\"."}, {"response": 350, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (22:03)", "body": "Great news Ann. Whewwww! * slaps Ann a high five *"}, {"response": 351, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (22:27)", "body": "Ann, what are we going to talk about next? Do keep us posted regarding your now recovered vehicle."}, {"response": 352, "author": "churchh", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (22:53)", "body": "Did someone save the review -- it's expired from the NY Times site..."}, {"response": 353, "author": "Donna", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (23:00)", "body": "Yes, it did expire. I did a search and found an old review about JA which listed your site HC."}, {"response": 354, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (23:00)", "body": "February 8, 1997 CRITIC'S NOTEBOOK / By CHRISTOPHER LEHMANN-HAUPT 'Pride and Prejudice': A Great Movie of a Great Book Plenty of bad movies have been made of good books, and a fair number of good movies have come from bad books. But a great movie of a great book? Speaking from a book reviewer's vantage point, I nominate Jane Austen's \"Pride and Prejudice,\" a co-production of the BBC and A&E, which is being rebroadcast by A&E in two parts, on Saturday and Sunday. I had missed the production the first time around, but when a friend lent me the tapes, I was instantly and completely caught up by the Bennet family and the thwarted romances of the two eldest daughters, Jane and Elizabeth. I did not get free until I had watched the entire five-hour production three or four times. The Bennets' world seemed more real than mine. I found myself repeating the memorable lines. I caught myself humming the music. As with a really good book, I discovered more and more to enjoy as I grew familiar with the main action and could concentrate on the smallest of details: for example, the way you can still overhear Miss Caroline Bingley (played with grand imperiousness by Anna Chancellor) after the camera has shifted away from the reception line at the Netherfield ball. But best of all was the way the film spurred me to read the book again after 40 years and to re-experience as literature the wayward romances of Jane and Elizabeth Bennet with Charles Bingley and Fitzwilliam Darcy. Surprisingly, the book proved somewhat disappointing at first. As the friend who lent me the tapes rightly put it when I asked him how the book compared with the film, \"It makes you fear for literature.\" \"Oh! Shocking!\" as Miss Bingley would say. To admit that the literalness of film might surpass the stimulus to the imagination of Austen's language. \"Abominable!\" But this was my experience at first. And it is not simply to be explained by the inherent vividness of film as a medium or by the masterly performances of Jennifer Ehle as Elizabeth, Colin Firth as Darcy, David Bamber as Collins, Crispin Bohham-Carter as Charles Bingley, Adrian Lukis as Lt. George Wickham and Barbara Leigh-Hunt as Lady Catherine. Other films of Austen's novels I happen to have seen don't come near to offering the pleasures of this production. One need hardly consider the 1940 Hollywood movie directed by Robert Leonard, with its mangled script (by Aldous Huxley yet!) draining the story of all dramatic tension, its miscasting of a too-old Greer Garson as Elizabeth and its simpering performance by Laurence Olivier as Darcy. Both the \"Emma\" starring Gwyneth Paltrow and a forthcoming BBC/A&E co-production of the novel with Kate Beckinsale (to be shown on A&E on Feb. 16) are entertaining enough but seem thin compared with Austen on paper. While Emma Thompson's \"Sense and Sensibility\" has much to recommend it, it suffers considerably from the lack of the novel's ironic narrative voice, which mercifully distances the reader from the excesses of its two leading characters. And \"Persuasion,\" while the best of the feature-length adaptations of Austen, is so brilliantly cinematic that one almost misses Austen's narrative voice. Moreover, it is not nearly as faithful to the original as the film of \"Pride and Prejudice\" is, and one has to have read the novel to understand certain subplots that are barely touched upon in the movie. (I have not seen the 1985 BBC production of \"Pride and Prejudice,\" directed by Cyril Coke, or the movie \"Clueless.\") In \"Pride and Prejudice,\" an early work of Austen's (at least in its original form, completed in 1797 and titled \"First Impressions\"), little distance exists between the narrator and the viewpoint of the leading characters. In fact, the narrator's outlook is close to that of Elizabeth, who, except for the prejudice that prevents her from seeing the truth about the deceptively charming Wickham and the too-proud Darcy, is one of the most liberated women in all of literature, especially impressive considering the narrowness of the society she lives in. So \"Pride and Prejudice\" translates easily onto the screen. True, the initial hostility between Elizabeth and Darcy is more deeply and subtly developed in the book. And we understand more clearly the extent to which Mr. and Mrs. Bennet are alienated as husband and wife. But consider how the film improves on the book. Take, for instance, the introduction of Collins, the cousin of the Bennets who is to inherit their estate. In the book, Bennet reads aloud the letter to him from Collins detailing how he wishes to \"heal the breach\" that subsists \"between yourself and my late honored father\" and how he plans to visit the Bennets. The family then reacts to the letter, noting the pompousness of its style. A few paragraphs later, the text announces: \"Mr. Collins was punctual to his time, and was received with great politeness by the whole family.\" In the film, Bennet starts reading the letter, but Collins' voice"}, {"response": 355, "author": "Susan", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (23:41)", "body": "Amy, thanks for sharing ... but we already knew P&P2 was addicting and very difficult to improve upon. This just proves the point. (Although I don't necessarily agree with his opinions regarding other adaptations)."}, {"response": 356, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (23:45)", "body": "Sounds like Christopher needs to be sent our URL so he may continue to wallow with the rest of us! ;-)"}, {"response": 357, "author": "Inko", "date": "Sat, Feb 8, 1997 (23:47)", "body": "Ann, thanks so much for e-mailing the N.Y. Times. I think it's great that they know their article is appreciated and that there is a bunch of us out in cyberspace who feel the same way their reviewer does! And thanks, Amy, for getting the article here. I wasn't sure how to do that. After all, that was my first link ever!! I'm learning, but ever so slowly!! BTW, I watched A&E tonight but I was disappointed--I really missed all the extra scenes I have on my tapes, and I hate being interrupted by commercials all the time! But it allowed me to get some work done and listen to it in the background!"}, {"response": 358, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (00:28)", "body": "Inko: BTW, I watched A&E tonight but I was disappointed--I really missed all the extra scenes I have on my tapes, and I hate being interrupted by commercials all the time! But it allowed me to get some work done and listen to it in the background! YES Inko! Me too! In fact I only watched the last 15 minutes...the proposal scene...ooh baby, lots of heat in that room! ;-)"}, {"response": 359, "author": "Anne3", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (17:54)", "body": "Susan: but we already knew P&P2 was addicting and very difficult to improve upon. This just proves the point. Yes, Susan, but what delighted me about the article was that a big cheese like Lehmann-Haupt, who as regular book critic for the New York Times holds a high position in literary circles, would admit in public to being as obsessed with a t.v. adaptation as an ordinary mortal! P&P2 conquers ALL!"}, {"response": 360, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (18:05)", "body": "Ann - I am making my way into this conversation late - like Mr. Woodhouse. I am glad they found your car - please let us know more as you get it back and back into working order. Thanks for the letter and the article."}, {"response": 361, "author": "Hilary", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (20:13)", "body": "I have just been reading back, having not visited for a while. Adi, I wish I knew some way of comforting you. I hope as time moves on you will feel better. Amy (#345),not me, I think?????....I don't think I'm that scary!"}, {"response": 362, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 10, 1997 (21:25)", "body": "I guess this topic got kicked out of Austen!"}, {"response": 363, "author": "Mixu", "date": "Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (06:36)", "body": "Ramblings, everyone! I have a terrible flu, am low on cash, and on a tight schedule. And yes, I almost forgot: I'm also turning 27 on Thursday! I'm beginning to feel old... On the other hand, it's Valentine on Friday, so: Happy Valentine! Thank you for letting this off my mind. I feel better already. I'll see you next week!"}, {"response": 364, "author": "TJ", "date": "Wed, Feb 12, 1997 (14:08)", "body": "beginning to feel old??????????? old is just a state of mind....take it from someone who is about to celebrate the 21st anniversary of his 21st birthday........."}, {"response": 365, "author": "fuzz", "date": "Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (11:34)", "body": "I have just browsed down through the responses, all 364 of them and find them to be interesting. I thought this would be more of a political discussion than I have found, but am certainly glad for the camaradery."}, {"response": 366, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (21:50)", "body": "Welcome Don! Hope you keep checking back in with us."}, {"response": 367, "author": "fuzz", "date": "Mon, Feb 17, 1997 (17:42)", "body": "Thanks for the welcome. Where does peoples interest lie? I would be interested in people that have ideas that would lead to organizing the State Univ. of New York (SUNY) students into a voting block, or at least a political voice with a little muscle. I think it is a damn shame what the SUNY Board of Trustees are trying to do to the state system."}, {"response": 368, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 19, 1997 (03:22)", "body": "Open a topic in politics, the conference."}, {"response": 369, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Tue, Apr 8, 1997 (12:53)", "body": "You guys are very interesting but I'm not sure how I fit in since I'm going to go out on a limb here and actually say I'm not a huge Austen fan--I like what I've seen but I guess it didn't hit me the way it hit you all (so what am I doing here? long story). But you welcome even lukewarm fans, eh? You seem like a nice bunch folks, you won't wallop me, right?"}, {"response": 370, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 8, 1997 (19:37)", "body": "You're cool. Come on out and play!"}, {"response": 371, "author": "mtlady", "date": "Thu, Apr 10, 1997 (15:16)", "body": "I wrote my intro. in another section. I heard today that there is a virus out there and it comes in your e mail and says from aol and states free aol on line and when you open it your entire system is wiped out including your antivirus programs. I figure it is for real because the alert was from washington and sent out to gov. fac. recieved in Atlanta at a gov. research fac. anyone heard about this?"}, {"response": 372, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 10, 1997 (20:36)", "body": "No, can you provide more details. Is it documented anywhere on the web or is there any anti-virus company that recognizes it. Have you contacted the folks at F-Prot or Norton to see if it's real. An email to them might clear things up."}, {"response": 373, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Apr 12, 1997 (14:23)", "body": "My,my, my... Terry, this has really grown since last I checked in. At the Denver Public Library today. Brandon is on a plane bound for Philly and I'm cold and lonely. The weather is bringing me down. The middle of April. 10 degrees. Six inches of melting snow. My flowers, the ones I planted three weeks ago, will never bloom. Sad. I'm checking out a Kabir poetry book, an Aaron Copland CD and several other random fiction stories -- sci-fi, romance, modern weird, you know... a little bit of everything to help me get through the week. Miss Austin, miss warm weather. Need a cup of caffeine and a chocolate macad mia cookie. Mountain biking and skating are on hold until the snow melts and the trails dry up. Thinking fondly of my former life..."}, {"response": 374, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 12, 1997 (17:27)", "body": "Wow, Miss Stace' checkin' in... glad you found some access. Are those Interent terminals very busy? Isn't it cool that libraries have net access now. Nearly all the Austin libraries have net access. I get Denver stations on my satellite dish so I got a little glimpse at your weather. I won't mention what kind of day we're having in Austin or that all the plants all over are in multi-colored profusion. Do you go snow skiing? That would seem a natural for you with your athleticism. Have you been in any more ironman competitions (run, swim, bike)? Well, enough of this indoor activity for now, time to get outdoors. Keep on checkin' in, Stacey!"}, {"response": 375, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Apr 14, 1997 (09:23)", "body": "Stacey stacey check back in! I'm a desperately unhappy Dallasite longing to relocate to Denver/Boulder. Please give me some words of encouragement while I wait out this interminable job-hunt. I miss Austin, too--partly why I'm heading for D/B! It's the closest I've found to that great Austin ambience. Guess I'll trade hellishly hot summers for frosty winters!"}, {"response": 376, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 1997 (12:57)", "body": "well, I'm bummed...one of the 2 main potential employers I'm looking at in Denver now lists \"no jobs available\" on their home page (they used to have half a dozen) and the other one still has the 2 unsuitable-for-me jobs they've been listing since Feb. Time to do more searching and sending."}, {"response": 377, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 1997 (21:18)", "body": "Did you get in touch with Stacey yet?"}, {"response": 378, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 16, 1997 (21:42)", "body": "Have you thought about moving to Austin? Just a thought."}, {"response": 379, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, Apr 17, 1997 (13:18)", "body": "Like I said in one of my many intros, it would be a dream come true to return to Austin, the town of my heart. Unfortunately, the reality is that I am just too old to live in the squalor afforded by the measly salaries paid for my line of work in Austin...so I visit and dream..."}, {"response": 380, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, Apr 17, 1997 (13:33)", "body": "Plus I'm just too dainty these days for the blistering hellfire of those Austin summers (they made a man of me in my 20s, but now...I can't breathe!)...like Colo winters will be any less hellish!"}, {"response": 381, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 17, 1997 (23:37)", "body": "What work do you do again?"}, {"response": 382, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Apr 18, 1997 (08:07)", "body": "Molecular biology (got my MD, quit my residency, took up lab work). Sadly, the labs in Austin are easily staffed by peons fresh out of college willing to work for peanuts. There is Ambion, the lone industry. Perhaps I should give them a whirl, see if they'd be willing to pay me vast sums of money to enjoy the Austin ambience...."}, {"response": 383, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 19, 1997 (00:25)", "body": "Talk to my friend Bob Nagy who works at UT Botany when he gets over his throat surgery (about a week). He's mailto://bob@spring.com He may be able to help steer you in the right direction. I'll mention him to you. His home page is at http://www.spring.com/~kreblon There's hope!"}, {"response": 384, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Apr 21, 1997 (13:07)", "body": "You are very kind, terry. I will definitely look there! Sadly, UT is the lowest-paying, but what the heck, I'll see what's up. My ramble for today: I changed the tire on my car ALL BY MYSELF!!! last Saturday. I'm so proud of myself. Plenty of lacrimal lubrication to get the lugs off (fortunately this all took place in the privacy of my own driveway)!"}, {"response": 385, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 22, 1997 (23:26)", "body": "The folks I know there love it. Despite the low pay. They like the relaxed atmosphere and benefits."}, {"response": 386, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (08:55)", "body": "As indeed I did during the 3 1/2 years I toiled in the Micro dept--great people and a fine ambience (ESB is a cool bldg)--much better than the tense unsmiling environs of UTSWMC Dallas! I'll see what the pay scale is for my now-advanced status (cf my previous inexperienced level), eh. I just need enough to pay the vet bills and the car repairman!"}, {"response": 387, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (09:24)", "body": "And apropos of nothing, let me just rant about my pet peeve, trafficwise: so you're tooling along virtually alone on the road (plenty of oncoming traffic)(but no one near you in your direction). Mr Doofus is exiting a parking lot, wants to join you on the road. He sees you 10 blocks away and waits. And waits. And waits. When you are right upon him, mere inches from his front bumper, he EASES his tuna boat out directly in front of you. Having used up every last ounce of driving courage on this bold m neuver, he proceeds to drive 5 mph for a block or two, then slams on his brakes without warning, apparently (why use a turn signal? HE knows where he's going) wishing to turn left past all the oncoming traffic. So the pair of you spend eternity waiting for a brek in traffic sufficiently large to accomodate a tuna boat driven by a moron whose used up all his courage. Not a soul behind you; he could have done all of this after you passed, but NOOOOO, he HAD to pull in front of you. Thank you and good ni ht. seriously, any other traffic annoyances out there? Or do I just need to get the idiot magnet removed from my front bumper?"}, {"response": 388, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (09:26)", "body": "sorry about the typos--combination of spleen-venting and weird response frame (I can't see half of what I type!)"}, {"response": 389, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (09:28)", "body": "I'm over in Austin rambling, go back to main menu, see there's a new response in porch, come over here, and it's ME! This is too fun, chatting with myself (are the voices in my head bothering you?)."}, {"response": 390, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 1997 (13:03)", "body": "And I return hours later,see another new response, and whaddaya know--ME AGAIN!"}, {"response": 391, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, Apr 24, 1997 (13:04)", "body": "AUBREY RULES THE WORLD!! I am the only responder! I am queen of everything! Ruler of mesopotamia! Goddess of The Spring!"}, {"response": 392, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 24, 1997 (16:09)", "body": "Well, you see, aubrey, the 'ramble' topic is actually replicated throughout several conferences and forms sort of a common thread through all these conferences. It started out in the austen conference and spread out from there (though it's no longer linked to austen after the major metamorphosis it went through. Anyone see the story on the WELL in the latest issue of Wired? Two folks I know pretty well, Cliff Figallo (fig@well.com) and John Coate (tex@well.com) are on the cover looking like guys out of the Xfiles. Also pictured is Stewart Brand. I was one of the original members of the WELL and much of the inspiration for the Spring comes from what Cliff and John did at the WELL, even the name was originally a play on the WELL. Anyway, check it out."}, {"response": 393, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Apr 25, 1997 (08:13)", "body": "I thought someone was typing in porch while I was typing in austin. Ddidn't realize the computer wouldn't be able to figure out it was me all the time. Will look for Wired and your pals. You're a funny man of the spring/well/geyser."}, {"response": 394, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Apr 30, 1997 (09:10)", "body": "Once again, aubrey is the queen of all she surveys! I rock the Spring! I am so large and in charge! I think I will chat with myself a while...."}, {"response": 395, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 30, 1997 (17:10)", "body": "I've been offline here about 3 days, I'll be getting back on soon."}, {"response": 396, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, May 2, 1997 (09:26)", "body": "But I'm having sooo much fun! I NEVER get to be the one in charge! However, you are better at it than me...Fun in the lab: I was doing an experiment yesterday that required the use of some truly noxious organic chemicals; when I was pouring them out under the fume hood (like one of those kitchen range exhaust fans, only it's enclosed on 3 1/2 sides)(designed to suck away noxious vapors so they don't enter the lab) I couldn't quite reach the sink at the back of the hood, so without thinking I NATURALLY tuck my head under the hood to get better leverage...just a half a whiff of that stuff and I blacked out and hit the floor. Yikes-a-hootey! I'm still reeling from the shock a day later! Maybe I should consider a different profession? One that doesn't require frequent use of noxious and dangerous chemicals and gene-altering isotopes?"}, {"response": 397, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 2, 1997 (13:21)", "body": "I wondered why you hadn't been posting for a couple of days! Wow! Take it easy there. Glad you back with the conscious folks. You're set up as a telnetter now! Let me know if you have any questions about how to use the telnet / yapp interface."}, {"response": 398, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (09:08)", "body": "Well, terry, I've tried every way I can but I still seem to have some sort of block vis a vis telnet. I can get to stroud (but only via typing it into netscape or clicking on the url you left me in tv conf--the url on the welcome page still doesn't work), but get lost therafter. There is a ws-ftp to click on at one point in the depths of Stroud, but my choice seems to be to download it, which (since this is NOT my own computer) I am a bit leery of. There is no Windows95 choice. On this computer (NOT i NetScape) there is a ws-ftp icon which I played with a little, but it couldn't find telnet://www.spring.com so I stopped (but now my password and name are on the ws-ftp page). Maybe I should try this from a personal personal computer (my brother is a computer jockey; I will enlist his help)."}, {"response": 399, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (09:10)", "body": "Where the hell did THAT come from???? All I did was type in the letters for that telnet thing and it went purple!!! Does that work for other sites? http://www.vabeach.com for example?"}, {"response": 400, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (09:31)", "body": "Help terry I'm scaring myself--every time I type in a url it lights up. Did I sniff too much pet ether last week or is this the glorious result of being a telnet gal? Yikes! Stop me before I hurt someone! So that vabeach url is from my e-pal who wants so desperately to join the Spring but cannot get on. I don't know what the site is, it was just the first thing I tried! AND IT WORKS! This is toooo spooooooky for me. How does the computer know where to go if I didn't tell it?"}, {"response": 401, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (09:58)", "body": "Terry I am serious, this is WAY too spooky: I sent an e-mail (via NetScape)to my bros requesting their assistance in this telnet thing, and when I typed in the spring telnet url thingie, IT LIT UP! WHY IS THIS SUDDENLY HAPPENING?? As you will note from my previous comments, I never used to be able to do lit-up urls--when I suggested websites to my e-pals, they never lit up before. How does the computer know I have a telnet account when I'm not logged on that way? IS BIG BROTHER WATCHING ME? I'm getti g paranoid!"}, {"response": 402, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (12:38)", "body": "I just left a lot of responses in ramble via telnet (with the kind assistance of my e-pal and my brother) and they didn't show up here. What's up?"}, {"response": 403, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (13:35)", "body": "And now my responses are gone from telnet, although that last response (left via the website) showed up on telnet. I am deeply confused. Plus, where are the messages left for me in telnet by my e-pal pungo? Terry, take my hand and leadeth me beside the spring waters, for I knoweth not what is happen."}, {"response": 404, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (13:38)", "body": "what happens to the stuff I write here? It vanished! Hmmmm, I went to the web spring and typed that above message in, and when I came back, this last telnet response was still here... I think I need someone else to chat with for this to work? \".\""}, {"response": 405, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (13:41)", "body": "Terry you'd better get here quick. My computer is now sassing back at me. I was roaming around telnet in ramble and it informed me \"a message entered before yours at 403\"--I don't know what it's talking about, but that's pretty spooky. Truly bizarre, tho--I asked it to take me to tv conf, but before it would it asked \"do you feel more enlightened now?\" WHO IS TALKING TO ME???? Are the voices in my head bothering anyone else?"}, {"response": 406, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (13:43)", "body": "response 404 is me in telnet. \".\" is me trying to leave! What happened to my first set of responses a few hours ago? Why did that STUPID response show up? Where did my name come into all of this?"}, {"response": 407, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 5, 1997 (22:17)", "body": "Keep after it aubrey, you'll catch on. This telnet stuff really does work!"}, {"response": 408, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Tue, May 6, 1997 (07:49)", "body": "It may work for you. It just scares me."}, {"response": 409, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 6, 1997 (09:15)", "body": "It's not all that scary. What editor are you using? vi or pico?"}, {"response": 410, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May 7, 1997 (08:13)", "body": "ummmm...I am my own editor? Let me ask the computer god who runs the show around here. He's nice and knows everything about our set-up (he should, since he set it up!)."}, {"response": 411, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May 7, 1997 (08:23)", "body": "I couldn't find anywhere in tv conf to put this, so I'll just yammer away here: last night I got to watch a tv pilot. It was not so good but it was fun getting to watch something that may or may not be a show. The only person I recognized was Cynthia Geary from NExp (so maybe this should go there). It was a lame sitcom about a totally uninteresting couple of 20somethings getting married and all the trouble with involving their families in the wedding (his: NY Jew, hers: Southern crackers; hi-jinks ens e!). You think I could parlay this into a career? I can critique potential shows from the comfort of my own living room! Or not."}, {"response": 412, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 7, 1997 (09:13)", "body": "You might want to hold on to your day job till you explore this a little more."}, {"response": 413, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May 7, 1997 (13:02)", "body": "It's so exciting to have you here during the day, terry! I like! So what, you think they won't pay me vast sums of money to sit around bitching about others' lack of creativity? Am I doomed to knocking myself out with organic solvents for the rest of my natural life? Breathe in, breathe out...."}, {"response": 414, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 7, 1997 (18:33)", "body": "Are you and telnet getting along now?"}, {"response": 415, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May 8, 1997 (12:11)", "body": "Well, not exactly. I've asked my brother the computer chimp to help me out (so don't be surprised if you read some really dull test messages here--I gave him my logon to work it out for me) so we'll see what he comes up with. My friend pungo has given up completely on The Spring (he e-mailed you for help and didn't hear back and since I can't find him on telnet he's going to find somewhere else for us to play--but I'll still be here!). I prefer the web-nased bbs rather than telnet. Maybe I'm a sucker or cool graphics (also this computer is pretty fast) or whatnot. What again are the advantages to telnet?"}, {"response": 416, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May 8, 1997 (12:11)", "body": "That's \"web Based\" bbs!"}, {"response": 417, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May 8, 1997 (12:12)", "body": "Oh yeah the tv pilot people never called me for my opinion--what have you been telling them about me, terry?"}, {"response": 418, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, May 9, 1997 (10:06)", "body": "The tv pilot people called last night; apparently the wrong show got beamed out so they didn't even interview me. My shiny new career vanishes like a candle in the wind...."}, {"response": 419, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 9, 1997 (14:00)", "body": "like the old Elton John song."}, {"response": 420, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, May 14, 1997 (14:10)", "body": "how time does fly! I can't believe it's been so long since I've logged in. Boss-man really has me totin barges and liftin bales. Plus I've walked out on him a couple of times in the middle of the workin day when he starts smokin in the lab. Anyway, I got a phone interview, out of the blue, from Amgen, a company I applied to back in Feb--thought they'd forgotten all about me but apparently not. I am hopelessly unqualified for the job in question, plus it's in 1K Oaks CA where I'll never live, but who ares! I'll take the interview process as far as she'll go. I need the practice. Hey, also my bro in Denver has mentioned an editing job (for medical journals) so maybe I'll get something after all!"}, {"response": 421, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 14, 1997 (16:17)", "body": "I just got offered a webmaster job in Calif and a system network job for Compaq, but I got an even better job offer inAustin. So I'll stick around."}, {"response": 422, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Thu, May 15, 1997 (08:06)", "body": "But even if it weren't a better offer--you'd stay in Austin, right? Calif can't compare! Do you have to move to do a computer job? Can't they just link you up or something and let you stay in that fair city?"}, {"response": 423, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 15, 1997 (08:15)", "body": "I would probably stay. If it were Northern Calif I'd be more tempted. I had a good dinner last night with Doug Larue and he has some ideas for pumping up the Spring and Capcity. Doug is a very talented designer and editor of Capitol City Arts and Entertainment magazine. We're working on ways to build traffic and to attract more dedicated websites."}, {"response": 424, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, May 16, 1997 (13:36)", "body": "I can't wait! I'm all aglow! More people would be grrrreat. I've been spending time on another website (wbs.net) and while it's fun having \"live\" conversations, the people and topics are lame. More people here would be ideal. Let me know if I (useless as I am) can help--I'm still doing word-of-mouth promotions to everyone I meet who uses computers."}, {"response": 425, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 16, 1997 (17:59)", "body": "Anything you can do would help. I'm working 12 hours a day now so it's harder to promote this thing."}, {"response": 426, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, May 19, 1997 (08:26)", "body": "Terry you must relax! Austin is for slackers! Please tell me you will not keep up this pace. Breathe in, breathe out..."}, {"response": 427, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 19, 1997 (12:54)", "body": "I think I pumped it up a bit here on Sunday night. Take a look around and you'lll see some action, Aubrey."}, {"response": 428, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Sun, May 25, 1997 (09:20)", "body": "Where have I been??? I'm back now!"}, {"response": 429, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Sun, May 25, 1997 (09:28)", "body": "hahahaha and I'm STILL fooling myself with this ramble-in-many-conferences gag! every time I put in a response I go and check the other conference!! I have a memory span the size of a GNAT!!!"}, {"response": 430, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 25, 1997 (09:43)", "body": "I'm heading off to TJ Cellery's big party today, he's one of our posters in the sports conference and he's got bands, darts, and all kinds of activities going on out in Lake Bastrop today and tomorrow. It's already been going on for two days."}, {"response": 431, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Tue, May 27, 1997 (08:26)", "body": "Hope you had fun terry. I linked the spring from my \"home page\" (such as it is) on wbs.net--hope that's ok!"}, {"response": 432, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 27, 1997 (09:31)", "body": "It's more than ok."}, {"response": 433, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, May 27, 1997 (21:38)", "body": "Hiya! Once again found myself within 3 yards of a computer and had to say hello! Miss you. Miss Austin. Should be back in late June early July. We'll do the Dog&Duck/veggie burger thing! Spring has finally reached Denver! Yea! Camping, biking and beer guzzling for Memorial Day. JuneFest this weekend -- more beer, camping and biking! Hope all is well with EVERYONE -- too many new people, I feel lost Paul! Smiles and hugs!"}, {"response": 434, "author": "ginger", "date": "Wed, May 28, 1997 (00:50)", "body": "We had a great party out in Bastrop at TJ Cellery's digs, he had live bands, horseshoes, good friends, great food and four frolicking days. He's been doing this for 25 years now (all around the country). Too bad about the Avs' Stacey Leigh!"}, {"response": 435, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 28, 1997 (07:56)", "body": "Stacey, did you hear about Don moving out to Denver?"}, {"response": 436, "author": "msegal", "date": "Thu, May 29, 1997 (10:56)", "body": "Hi. Is there anyone interested in the Canadian federal election?"}, {"response": 437, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 29, 1997 (13:50)", "body": "I hadn't been giving it much thought. Fill us in ok?"}, {"response": 438, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Jun 2, 1997 (08:33)", "body": "There's a Canadienne in my wbs chat group who want the current guy booted out in favor of the contender who she says \"won't let the Frenchies walk all over us\"--I'll ask for more details, eh?"}, {"response": 439, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 2, 1997 (11:19)", "body": "How about those Bulls las night?"}, {"response": 440, "author": "ginger", "date": "Sun, Jun 8, 1997 (10:00)", "body": "They're having a quiet war about that, Aubrey?"}, {"response": 441, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (07:58)", "body": "sadly ginger that's all I know--and terry see my query in porch intros; I am confused (so what's new!) by these new choices we have! \"preserve as unread\"??? why???"}, {"response": 442, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 18, 1997 (11:42)", "body": "Why? Because Dave Thaler just upgraded our interface. We'll be putting out some upgrade notes soon. Aubrey, so good you're back!"}, {"response": 443, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 20, 1997 (08:06)", "body": "Thank you terry! glad to be here! so sad that boss-man keeps me away with WORK! So what is with thie COOKIE business????? why do yuo keep asking me to send them? I make a really great oatmeal chocolate chip (to die for!)--wouild a dozen satisfy you? Seriously terry this is getting ridiculous! I can hardly get on the spring for having to machete through a thicket of computer messages about COOKIES--help meeeeee!"}, {"response": 444, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 20, 1997 (17:33)", "body": "Your broswer lets you turn off cookie notification. What browser are you using aub' ?"}, {"response": 445, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:10)", "body": "I am using netscape...everyone is telling me cookies are the worst thing in the world but you seem relatively calm about this...so I will take heart and attempt to figure out how to turn them off. if I can't can you help!"}, {"response": 446, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:30)", "body": "Sure, be glad to help. What version of Netscape do you have?"}, {"response": 447, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (12:49)", "body": "yu got me there pal, I just click it on hee hee hee...let me have a look-see..."}, {"response": 448, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (12:54)", "body": "the icon says 3.01 but what actually comes up is 3.0...I deselected cookie under the preferences \"show me a warning before accepting a...\" and I sure hope that's ok--I don't know why someone would select that--terry? do I need to know when the computer has accepted a cookie?"}, {"response": 449, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (12:55)", "body": "Not really. It's mildly interesting. Not something to work up a frenzy over."}, {"response": 450, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (13:00)", "body": "hey!! now you actually being here IS soething to work up into a frenzy over!"}, {"response": 451, "author": "aubrey", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (13:01)", "body": "And I am frothing! I have never had anyone here when I am here! so I want to hear more about the electronic minds *peering about* are they here right now?"}, {"response": 452, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 27, 1997 (13:45)", "body": "They are, join minds."}, {"response": 454, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (11:12)", "body": "Sure pop it in the wave."}, {"response": 455, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (18:06)", "body": "and what, praytell, are we rambling about?!?"}, {"response": 456, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (18:14)", "body": "jesus! I had to go through 2 friggin years worth o crap to get here! And what do I find but the same damn words I posted somewhere else. This is un nerving!"}, {"response": 457, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Thu, Jan 15, 1998 (18:18)", "body": "lol!"}, {"response": 459, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (10:04)", "body": "Ramble is a mega linked topic. So if you ramble here, you ramble everywhere. Just so you know."}, {"response": 460, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (12:16)", "body": "That's an intimidating thought. I'm afraid to ramble now."}, {"response": 462, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (13:44)", "body": "Sorry, I seldom think I have anything worthwhile to say, much less to have it echoed throughout the spring."}, {"response": 464, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Jan 17, 1998 (15:52)", "body": "Ahh, but I'm not a deep thinker like you. An eloquent stream of consciousness always rates higher than inane chit-chat."}, {"response": 466, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jan 18, 1998 (21:39)", "body": "Well, consider yourself eloquent."}, {"response": 467, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jan 19, 1998 (17:11)", "body": "\"I was born a ramblin' Maaaaannnnnnnnnn. Trying to make a livin' an doin' the best I caaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn.\""}, {"response": 468, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Mon, Jan 19, 1998 (17:59)", "body": "roflmao! (that's a pretty excellent dickie betts, especially from someone subject to recurring cat dreams...)"}, {"response": 469, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (18:21)", "body": "*grin* gotta be too much herb tea!"}, {"response": 470, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (18:41)", "body": "Hey, ramblin' girl, speaking of tea, just got a shipment of chai in today. A free sample from the Pacific Chai company. Who says I never got anything free off the net?"}, {"response": 471, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (18:45)", "body": "where? Good stuff? I'm a big Celestial Seasonings fan..."}, {"response": 472, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (18:46)", "body": "JUST POSTED THIS IN MOVIES.... NOW I HAVE TO READ IT AGAIN IN FITNESS!!!!!! AAAccccccccccccccccccck! Paul, what are you doing to me?!?!"}, {"response": 473, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (18:49)", "body": "It's a conspiracy Stace, remember when I told you a few days ago that when you post here you post everywhere (thought I was kidding, eh?). Anyway, I got the free Chai tea from Pacific Chai which I found by searching for the word \"chai tea\" on yahoo's site. http://www.PacificChai.com Good stuff! Spicy, weet, rich, and *instant* chai tea."}, {"response": 474, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (19:56)", "body": "Stacey, what are your favorite CS teas? I love the mandarin orange spice, and I use their green blend for iced tea."}, {"response": 475, "author": "nike", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (11:58)", "body": "Well as the thread in this group goes more into tea, all I can add to that is the fact that I have never drunken so much tea in my life like I do now living in Londo for half a year, you really drink it at nearly anytime in the day it's incredible... Just to continue rambling (I hope nobody minds) I am just not willing to spend hours over what I should be doing, preparing for my finals here in the South Bank University in London. It has been quite a semester here, and I must say to anybody who has the chanceto join such an exchangeprogramme, do it (like the Nike ad tell's you to) It's an expirience I don't want to have missed, and I already have spend a moth in an american Junior high school, a couple of years back (yeah yeah, those were the days) this thred was called Ramble? wasn't it ? ;-) I just could go on for hours, telling you about the freezing weather we had here after we had the warmest day in January two weeks ago, since the recordings began some hundred years ago, the weather is really unpredictable... Somehow I could do with some real proper sunshine, staying here I have acquired one of the most ugly teints I have ever had, the last time I had such a pale skin was after learning for my last exams in Germany for nearly a whole month and not seeing the outside much... Well I guess all you can do about that is either eat a wagonload of carrots (betacarotin) or lie under a artificial sun for some time, which I actually don't have, or I should better say shouldn't have ;-) Rambling on I could now go into the fact that I spent nearly 2 hours downloading the newest Mac OS -8 upgrade to 8.1 Apart from that I found a cool webpage explaining about Java and even offering a whole online store for free (all the scripts and everything that is needed to make such an to run an online store) so if everything else fails (my studies here as a building engeneer) I will open an online store selling ... well I don't know... ah! I got it I'll sell semelly socks ;-) Well what I would really like to do at the moment is continue writing my webpage, but I can't continue, because I couldn't setup my harddisk here, because my friend wanted back his casing for his harddisk ... well just in case you would like to have a little look around, or find out a bit about the thesis that I want to write about, check out my page at http://www.hardlink.com/~nike I would like some feedback... Well I guess I have rambled enough ;-) I should get back to my studies (yuck) See ya around enjoy the tea (I usually just have the normal PG Tips Black tea here) Bye Nike"}, {"response": 476, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (18:59)", "body": "Just in, the inside scoop on Clinton's woes from the Drudge report in politics."}, {"response": 477, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (20:23)", "body": "Read it in the politics conference. Either it's over for Clinton or Starr. One of them will bite the dust soon."}, {"response": 478, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (20:28)", "body": "Nike, now thar's a ramblin' man! Gosh, it's great you're back with us. Buddy, ya know, got a gig with Microsoft up in big D. Funny, Buddy always despised Microsoft now he's getting those BillyBucks. I wish him well. It's a great break for him and he can help a lot of other visually handicapped folks break some barriers."}, {"response": 479, "author": "nike", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (10:21)", "body": "Yeah! don't get me rambin, when I actually have some work to do ;-) (at least not, when the work I do have to do is somethin I hate doin, like revising all the stuff I learned the last half of the yaer... Is Buddy still around here in the Spring? Well I guess it's often like that, when money is involved... I also would work for Microsoft, but in my heart I still would prefer to work with a Mac,. Anyway, a really great break for him, I must say. Why is it in big D? I thought they were up in big R? Well I hope to read lot's astuff in the various topics, only at the moment I don't have that much time, but I will broowse a bit. See ya around See ya around Nike"}, {"response": 480, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (10:43)", "body": "Hey, anyone want a free frisbee? http://cgi.pathfinder.com/cgi-bin/gdml2x/game/pathfinder/apc_survey2 will get you one if you answer their plastics survey."}, {"response": 481, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (10:44)", "body": "Big, or Dallas, is a tech support location. That's what he's doing, supporting handicapped users. And getting all the free food he can eat!"}, {"response": 482, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (12:15)", "body": "Don't forget to clue him in on the frisbee!"}, {"response": 483, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (16:45)", "body": "Autumn... teas (the faves) Tension Tamer Echinecea Ginseng Bengal \u001b[A\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[C\u001b[B\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D\u001b[D SpiceSleepyTime Emporer's Choice"}, {"response": 484, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (16:54)", "body": "I haven't heard of a couple of those...maybe they're marketed differently in other regions? Like out here we have Edy's ice cream, but on the West Coast it is Dreyer's. And in Europe, Arizona iced tea is called Colorado iced tea (sounds more exotic \"Old West\" or something, I guess!)"}, {"response": 485, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (17:05)", "body": "My super favorite in the Bengal Spice... clovey cinnamony yummy! Shame you don't have them. What are your favorites?"}, {"response": 486, "author": "russell", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (16:53)", "body": "New this month in Culture Wars magazine online: http://www.culturewars.com The Kingpins of Drug Legalization: Investigating Their Role in the Culture War by Michael J. Ard Who are the voices crying out for the de-criminalization of narcotics, and what are their real objectives? The answers may surprise you."}, {"response": 487, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:03)", "body": "My favorite is the mandarin orange spice, but if the Bengal is as good as it sounds, I'll have to look for it. Only I hope it is not too cinnamon-y, because I can't stand their apple cinnamon spice flavor. Or anything with mint."}, {"response": 488, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:18)", "body": "Thanks Russell, that culturewares site was mentioned in our web conference as a cool website not too long ago. On a less frenetic front, and back to teatalk, I picked up some more chai tea tonight and and hibiscus blend. My two current favorites."}, {"response": 489, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:23)", "body": "Ooh, hibiscus is yummy!"}, {"response": 490, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:33)", "body": "Hey I just saw that culturewars site, gonna read it now. Oh, Terry, I didnt know you were a Tea Coinsure' You continue to surprise me!"}, {"response": 491, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:36)", "body": "Oh, he's a regular renaissance man....."}, {"response": 492, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:40)", "body": "Gosh, hey honest, I haven't been making under the table payments to Autumn. That hibiscus is great brewed with fresh grated ginger and sweetened with white grape juice."}, {"response": 493, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:42)", "body": "Wow--it would never occur to me to doctor tea with anything but honey or fructose. Old family recipe?"}, {"response": 494, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:48)", "body": "I only came into this conference because I saw that was where the current action was. But dagnabbit if I wasn't exposed and affected by the culture oozing from the electrons of Terry's universe. We are headed to Mexico City tomarrow to go an a ancient indian adventure, talk about culture! I will be exposed to a great deal of over the next week or so. We are going to one of the valcanoes and as many pyramids as we can find, hopfully this will become celestinial. Speaking of culture, I hear there is a very cool (Spring Like) site called http://www.boat.org check it out!"}, {"response": 495, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:54)", "body": "Sounds like an incredible outing, Doug!"}, {"response": 496, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Jan 28, 1998 (18:31)", "body": "Hot pepper cheese craving... anyone want to join me?"}, {"response": 498, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jan 29, 1998 (09:07)", "body": "you can try... but i won't fit. maybe you sould put the cheese and the Ritz on me!"}, {"response": 501, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (03:06)", "body": "is that a sigh of relief or of dispair? (or were you just breathing heavy and got confused?)"}, {"response": 502, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (03:06)", "body": "drinking my tea, having finished my bagel. Fairly happy today Well, certainly not sad And I read a post from many moons ago that mentioned boyce I associate the name, obviously with the spring, but also with the summer months in Austin. And, all of a sudden, I became really homesick for Austin. My old apartment off of Riverside, runs around Town Lake, late night skates around town stopping in assorted coffee houses to play cards... The smell of the air with humidity. The hot sticky feel after exercising in humidity and sunshine. Riding through the Greenbelt, reading off Mt. Bonnell... To no one in particular... Do you ever feel happy and sad at the same time? Odd how this came up so suddenly."}, {"response": 503, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (03:06)", "body": "I guess that's me. Yeah, I feel happy and sad simultaneously. Well I got a contract on a house in Austin today. I now have 10 days to change my mind."}, {"response": 504, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (03:06)", "body": "(all the time)"}, {"response": 505, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (15:22)", "body": "Wow, a house--that's a big commitment, Terry. Sometimes I think ours is a full-time job. Stacey, that happy/sad feeling; sometimes. More commonly I feel a persistent undercurrent of restlessness laying in wait beneath the surface."}, {"response": 507, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (17:28)", "body": "congrats on the house Paul! and as far as the brief trip into emotional uncertainty... there's nothing like a class full of rowdy boys to bring you back to the here and now! *smile* and nothing like a beer (or four) to make the day a mere memory!"}, {"response": 508, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (17:39)", "body": "whew! (spamified) found ramble in another conference... that I'd never checked before two plus years of... rambling. (worn out)"}, {"response": 509, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 30, 1998 (19:53)", "body": "ramble rambles all over about 7 or 8 conferences. Ramble really rambles."}, {"response": 511, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Feb 4, 1998 (15:19)", "body": "afternoon..."}, {"response": 513, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb 5, 1998 (17:16)", "body": "fine. busy. frustrated with certain things but nothing catastrophic... you know how it is when you begin to vent... a trickle, a stream, a flood..."}, {"response": 515, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 6, 1998 (12:55)", "body": "sure you wanna talk??? *wink*"}, {"response": 517, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 6, 1998 (17:26)", "body": "what should I sit on?!?! *grin*"}, {"response": 519, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Feb 8, 1998 (21:29)", "body": "okay. In an effort to expand our cultural horizons, let's each choose a different language to speak to each other in. (Kind of the way men and women relate anyway) You may speak whatever you like I choose body language!"}, {"response": 522, "author": "LaughingSky", "date": "Sun, Mar 8, 1998 (19:48)", "body": "Who is El Nino and what is he/she doing to me?? SUNSHINE..~~~*please!!"}, {"response": 523, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (10:56)", "body": "My sump pump has been going non-stop, too, Laughing Sky! I can only imagine what Noah went through (or those people in Malibu)"}, {"response": 524, "author": "drool", "date": "Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (01:32)", "body": "I have to say i feel for all of you who are being washed out. no rain here at least not that much. I will do my (rain please stop dance) for you. I was inducted into an indian tribe don't you know. guess i went to to many pow-wows and drank way to much booze. they named me sly fox with green eyes. by the cherokee nation and running deer by the chawktaws, and smooth as running water by the arapaho, yes I have gone to geronimos grave and even spent a night in his old jail cell. kinda cool. The first time I jumped from a plane I wasn't sure if I should call out his name after i landed I felt kinda of stupid for thinking about it while I was s anding in the door waiting to jump. you would think I would be wondering if my shut would open or not.... you know I think i am finished rambleing thank goodness. drool"}, {"response": 525, "author": "LaughingSky", "date": "Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (10:13)", "body": "Ha! Great story, Drool!:) I wish you would do a SunDance for us all! This LaughingSky's sky hasn't been laughing much, lately - more like, crying!!I can see that Autumn needs a good SunDance, too!~~~*"}, {"response": 526, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (16:46)", "body": "Definitely! It's below freezing here these days! :-( Spread a little sun this way!"}, {"response": 527, "author": "drool", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (17:18)", "body": "I am hopeing that my sun dance has helped you, because now it is raining like a water spout outside my door there is a flash flood warning in my area. I think maybe I got my dances confused. maybe I called the rain to texas. Did the rain stop for even a little while where you two are at? I really do hope so you don't deserve that kind crud. me Im happy its raining it calms my nerves. besides Im an excelent swimmer. May the forces of creation and BIG CHEIF in the heavens keep you safe and dry. amen.... drool"}, {"response": 528, "author": "drool", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (17:23)", "body": "Autumn, I will start my meditations today to try to get you some warmth. BURRRRRR it must be so cold your way. Try not to get fever. keep bundled up warmth will visit you soon.. drool"}, {"response": 529, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:15)", "body": "Well, the sun's been shining for 2 straight days, and temps are back in the 40s...keep up the good work! Now what can we do about all this mud?"}, {"response": 530, "author": "drool", "date": "Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (18:01)", "body": "Autumn, All I can tell you about thatone is WEAR BIG BOOTS ON LITTLE FEET. Brother sun will dry the ground, sister earth will give the water to the plants. If there are any others who need help however big or small let me know and I can try to help.. I have connections with the others I never wanted But I got stuck with them, I could put them to use. DROOL"}, {"response": 531, "author": "drool", "date": "Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (16:40)", "body": "No reponses since the 18th were oh were have all of you gone. does noone have a ramble in there hearts? Drool"}, {"response": 533, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Mar 25, 1998 (22:37)", "body": "Hey, drool, don't you hang out in any of the other conferences? Ramble doesn't get much action comparatively..."}, {"response": 534, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Sun, Jan 10, 1999 (15:19)", "body": "Helllllooooo? Anybody home? The last posting was a summer ago so I thought Id leave a new one. Kinda like exloring the downtown after dark where the streets are empty except for a few urban explorers.... Its durn cold outside - near 8 degrees with a wind chill well below zero. I sure ain't going out... Guess I'll goof off around the house today. Listen to a little shortwave. Radio NewYork International is on tonite which should be good for a few yuks. The Hammarlund SP600 is older than me but still fires up. Little orange bits of light escape from vacuum tubes adding a warm glow to the cold chassis. Spin the tuning knob. Think about what new tech I wanna follow up on... What old junk a wanna pitch... Where Im gonna be in a couple of years... Yep, a good time to figure all this stuff out.... Happy Gnu Year Mike aka cosmo"}, {"response": 535, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 10, 1999 (23:01)", "body": "Join us on 442.15!"}, {"response": 536, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (20:20)", "body": "8 degrees! Where are you, Cosmo?"}, {"response": 537, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (21:43)", "body": "Chicago, I think he said somewhere..."}, {"response": 538, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (22:09)", "body": "Brrr....How's the weather down there, Tex?"}, {"response": 539, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (22:13)", "body": "Jess about right..."}, {"response": 540, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (22:28)", "body": "\"You've got mail\"..."}, {"response": 541, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (23:45)", "body": "I saw..."}, {"response": 542, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (23:45)", "body": "(well, almost)"}, {"response": 543, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (05:34)", "body": "Chilly, willy. Brrrrr...."}, {"response": 544, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (19:34)", "body": "And greetings all.... Yep, near Chicago land. The temp is a bit warmer today: 19 degrees... We might actually get above 30 this weekend Woo Hoo! There is plenty of winter wonderland sports up here but I aint gonna go out unless I have to (i.e. work, etc...) I much prefer the warmer climes down south. Not many exciting ramblings to impart.... Hope to make a rave in Chicago soon so that might produce a few tales to tell.... Mike aka Cosmo"}, {"response": 545, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (22:21)", "body": "hi cosmo, welcome to the spring! i guess you get to spend a lot of time indoors in front of the computer with the weather the way it is up there."}, {"response": 546, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (15:33)", "body": "It finally got above freezing today and melted all the ice. The kids were off yesterday and today, and Monday is MLK's birthday so we'll all be sleeping in again..."}, {"response": 547, "author": "PT", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (16:47)", "body": "I hear that you have more on the way."}, {"response": 548, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (18:04)", "body": "Cold Rain and Snow! Well, so much for sojourns into the outdoors. Yep, I spend alot of time indoors - some of it even in front of the ol' computer. Now, if I was in Austin, I would probably be at Shady Grove or Crown and Anchor Pub nursing a brewski. Of course, I would fit in a visit to Half Price Books to see if any new texts have shown up and FringeWare to paw through their bins as well. Even though Im cooped up, I have so many potential projects to work on that not many are getting done. Mostly dealing with amateur radio to some degree but there is also SETI research and trying to come up with my own Technomadic model to fashion (see the Technomads postings in 'Radio' in the Spring, of course..). This is turning out to be a nice virtual community and the topics are interesting. How many more days til Summer? Mike aka Cosmo"}, {"response": 549, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (18:54)", "body": "Uh...kids?"}, {"response": 550, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (08:18)", "body": "Well, I think about 64 days (give or take a few) till spring and another 90 or so till summer. Lesseee, roughly 154 days till summer starts. If someone wants to be more precise, please correct me as these are top of the head estimates. I'll check out the radio conference thing you mentioned, sounds neat. Glad you're so steeped in local lore. When did you live in Austin?"}, {"response": 551, "author": "osceola", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (13:17)", "body": "Welcome Cosmo. I have two sisters in Chicago. I'm so used to warm weather, they insist that I not visit them for Christmas because the last time I did they said I bitched too much about it being 18 degrees. I'm going back up there in Sept. for my niece's wedding. (She's getting married on my birthday.) The C&A is still a good place, especially the Sunday import special. I also recommend Lovejoy's (on Neches just off of 6th St.) Half-Price books is still the best bookstore in town, especially the one on Guadalupe. If you're in Chicago, please don't be a Cub fan. I'm for the Sox."}, {"response": 552, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sun, Jan 24, 1999 (19:49)", "body": "oh George! You and I would get along famously irl just hanging out in my old fave Austin spots (although we'd have to break for that coffee high every now and then!)"}, {"response": 553, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 25, 1999 (08:02)", "body": "I'd say Book People would give Half Price a pretty good run for the money. That is one of the world's best bookstores."}, {"response": 554, "author": "osceola", "date": "Mon, Jan 25, 1999 (12:34)", "body": "Book People's pretty good, but my heart belongs to Half Price."}, {"response": 555, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Thu, Jan 28, 1999 (21:34)", "body": "Hi Yall Well, its been down right balmy lately - 30 to 40 degrees and almost hitting 50! Spring is in the air! Well, I have seen Book People when cruising down Lamar (across from Waterloo if my memory does not fail me...) Anyway, I have not ever been there but I will add it to my list next time I visit. I like Half Price - picked up some neat texts there that I doubt I could find elsewhere. I also like Fringe Ware especially since they expanded and have mucho more interesting books, cds, zines, etc. Crown and Anchor is still one of my fave neighborhood taps. Especially when I lived down the street... I also liked 1.5 pint nite at the UT Union (at least it was there back in '89...). I also liked Mad Dogs (RIP) for the food and atmosphere. Anyway, enuf pining... Need to make a trip back in the spring or summer so I can go to Zilker or Hamilton pool and genuinely goof off. Counting the days.... Mike aka cosmo"}, {"response": 556, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (08:50)", "body": "Balmy, it was downright hot in our house last night. Furshell had me turn on the a/c for a while. Ooops, did i turn it off this morning (not)?"}, {"response": 557, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (20:19)", "body": "We enjoyed some 60 degree temps this week too, but this weekend it's back down in the 20s. Will the groundhog see his shadow? We're all on tenterhooks..."}, {"response": 558, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 4, 1999 (13:19)", "body": "hi cosmo!"}, {"response": 559, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Sat, Feb 6, 1999 (21:15)", "body": "And howdy gang! Well, back again for another installment to the ramble page.... Anyway, been comtemplating just what constitutes an enlightened community and/or work place to be in... Yea, weird topic but its Saturday nite and aint much going on up here in the northern IL burbs. Yawn. For one thing, I think that this medium (i.e. The Spring) is a pretty good starting spot for some enlightened banter. Anyway... One goofy thought was to move out to the desert and set up a modest sized dish and do some combined SETI/radio astronomy research. Small problem in the fact that there are not many good pubs out in the middle of the desert. I still have to post a statement to the technomadics thread over in the radio section. Working up to it. Maybe tomorrow... For starters though, I wonder how those people who made the leap and cut the strings and are now out there roughing while still connected to the net are doing. Seems like an interesting concept but I still have way too much junque (high class junk) to even think about being mobile. Well, off to the radio room to listen to 'The Planet' on 7425 khz and take in that pirate radio vibe for a while. Now, here is a thought... Chicago could sure use a KOOP 'cause the commercial radio choices are high in cereal filler and low on substance. The exception is WNUR (college station) which is about as close to KOOP as we got. Problem is that their power levels dont quite make it well out to the burbs. The other campus stations have even less range - almost gotta be at the campus to here them. Guess I should get real audio loaded on this box so I can get some decent tunes and some 'alternative' broadcasting. Anyway, thats the scoop.... Mike aka _cosmo_"}, {"response": 560, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb 6, 1999 (22:53)", "body": "and a very nice scoop it was!"}, {"response": 561, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (00:16)", "body": "I'm sooo happy Valentine's is over!!!"}, {"response": 562, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (13:55)", "body": "Come on Mother's Day!!!!"}, {"response": 563, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (17:58)", "body": "thanks, Autumn, that rank's right up there with Valentine's and New Year's Eve for restaurants..."}, {"response": 564, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Sat, Feb 20, 1999 (19:33)", "body": "And Im glad winter's gonna be over soon! Im ready to do some bike riding and pack away the sweat shirts. Although, I have to admit that seeing those big fat snow flakes coming down today was kinda nice in that goofy Halmark greeting card way... Mike aka cosmo BTW, its nice to see some ramble activity too!"}, {"response": 565, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb 20, 1999 (23:57)", "body": "well, at least in the appropriate topic..."}, {"response": 566, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 22, 1999 (07:35)", "body": "Ya know, the first baby born in the year 2000 will probably be conceived on April 9, in 47 days from now. Can you imagine the accolades and worship that first born baby in the new millenium will receive? The next Savior? Sweepstakes winner? That baby will be huge! So if you're planning on conceiving, mark your calendars."}, {"response": 567, "author": "osceola", "date": "Mon, Feb 22, 1999 (12:24)", "body": "Thanks for reminding me to keep celibate."}, {"response": 568, "author": "GreenOne", "date": "Mon, Feb 22, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "I say test the product before buying it. But be safe about it!"}, {"response": 569, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 22, 1999 (17:40)", "body": "But you'll probably have to have the baby birthing in Fiji as this will be one of the first places to enter the Millenium and the earth turns. So, book your Fiji flight now, as they may be crowded with Millenium Baby couple wannabes."}, {"response": 570, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 22, 1999 (22:55)", "body": "Welcome, GreenOne!"}, {"response": 571, "author": "aa9il", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (19:19)", "body": "Ya know, if the world's travel structure craps out at the Y2K roll over, Fiji sounds like a nice place to be stuck at. Nice beaches...."}, {"response": 572, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (19:26)", "body": "And a great place to have the birthing of the First Child of the Millenium."}, {"response": 573, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (23:36)", "body": "The next meeting of the State Committee of the Socialist Party of Pennsylvania will be Sunday, March 28, 2-4 PM, in the upstairs cafe of Borders Book Shop, 8701 Germantown Avenue, Philadelphia. All are welcome."}, {"response": 574, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (14:27)", "body": "You do have socialists in the US? I thought the last resident socialist was gone when Jack London finished himself off? And all others were expats these days?"}, {"response": 575, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Mar 19, 1999 (23:51)", "body": "We have everybody in America, Alexander..."}, {"response": 576, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Mar 20, 1999 (03:30)", "body": "No, you don't! You don't have me, for starters, and I think that's - on a general basis - rather fortunate for me, too. And you don't have others - you drive them out of your country, or you kill them, or put them into containment, etc. \"We have everybody in America\" - you might fall back on the assumption, that you got some of all sorts, e.g., but not everybody. Or is very everybody is, America (which would explain the unlikely turn of events on all continents). Is that supremat\ufffdsmo or what! ARRRRRRRGH!"}, {"response": 577, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 20, 1999 (14:33)", "body": "I knew I'd get a good response from you on that!!! *hehe*"}, {"response": 578, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Mar 21, 1999 (03:55)", "body": "(Oh, man, keep on going like that, and you might end up like the last salmon entering my premises!)"}, {"response": 579, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Mar 21, 1999 (23:21)", "body": "tease..."}, {"response": 580, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Mar 22, 1999 (22:20)", "body": "\"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...\""}, {"response": 581, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 22, 1999 (22:45)", "body": "(it's easier to subjugate you if you live here...)"}, {"response": 582, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 24, 1999 (14:05)", "body": "Please expand this thought for me. Oh, and aren't you curious what happened to all these innocent fish? I bet you are, and just try to act cool on it. Betcha!"}, {"response": 583, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (00:41)", "body": "The fish thing is easy...they were fried and served with fries, cole slaw, and tartar sauce..."}, {"response": 584, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (12:06)", "body": "Hey, bub, I'm not talking yall guys small warm-water shrimp! I'm talking DA SALMON! The BIG one, from Norway, too! AND: we're not talking Sauce Tatar (can't stand the eggs in there). Lemme just say: I used Big One and Finn, the Finn Knife (a genuine Marttiini from Finland), and moved fast, too... Still, expand on your Response 581 for me, if you please."}, {"response": 585, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Mar 25, 1999 (16:23)", "body": "oh, just generally commenting (in a sarcastic manner, of course) about the United State's habit of Americanizing the world by helping everyone in their times of crisis..."}, {"response": 586, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Mar 27, 1999 (06:39)", "body": "Well, ever been to Germany? Kids here dress up in ways they think very american. If they ever make over to you guys, I bet they'll pop out of every crowd for their, ahem, interesting dress-code. And this time of crisis around, you're not alone - for the first time since the End of the Last Big One (war, that is, not knife or fish...), german military personnel participated in an armed military conflict. \"Achtun---k! Wi'rrre backkkk!\" Wonder what people make of this... (Might be okay with you, Wer, as they probably soon start issuing cool medals again... Might make http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/collecting/14 more lively... Still, I'm a bit disappointed that you don't even comment my proper use of a Marttiini on a whole fresh salmon... )"}, {"response": 587, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 27, 1999 (13:12)", "body": "(disappointing, unfortunately, is an innate talent of mine, Alexander, so please try not to take offense as it is usually not intentional...)"}, {"response": 588, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (04:24)", "body": "(But aren't you looking forward to the new batch of german military decorations? Must be some coming ahead, now that we've started killing folks again...)"}, {"response": 589, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (17:52)", "body": "(some things just aren't worth the cost, you know?)"}, {"response": 590, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (02:02)", "body": "(Glad you noticed; sorry I tried to tempt ya. Anyway, special offer this week - the official letter of condolence sent by the genuine German Minister of Defense to the first dead-in-action German soldier's family since 1945. Guy was in the Navy, of the Jugoslav coast, and drowned, when his dingy took water... Special Price!!)"}, {"response": 591, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (00:32)", "body": "(*shudder*...I just hate it when my dingy takes water...)"}, {"response": 592, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (00:08)", "body": "this post is a test"}, {"response": 593, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (00:10)", "body": "so far, the tests are working!!!"}, {"response": 594, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (00:28)", "body": "okay, some of the tests are working... at least it's not a complete flop yet..."}, {"response": 595, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 4, 1999 (11:21)", "body": "and to test again..."}, {"response": 596, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 7, 1999 (16:58)", "body": "check, check, 1...2...3..."}, {"response": 597, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Apr 7, 1999 (23:53)", "body": "4 (hey, that worked...)"}, {"response": 598, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (10:56)", "body": "1,2,3,4,5... 6,7,8,9,10... 11... TWELVE.... twel..el...el..el.elve! 12!"}, {"response": 599, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (11:27)", "body": "huh huh huh... testes, testes, one, two, three... uh huh huh huh..."}, {"response": 600, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (11:30)", "body": "all right Beevis! (howdy ray!! how's it going??? I'm gonna start a how to plan a wedding conference and I want you to go to town posting... okay?)"}, {"response": 601, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (12:51)", "body": "Is there any marrying going on around this place that I haven't been aware of yet? Test, test - one, two. One two..."}, {"response": 602, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (13:17)", "body": "So, Ray and Stace, you two gonna tell everyone about your plans? (not with each other, of course, or maybe?) When is the preliminary date set for, Stace?"}, {"response": 603, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (13:42)", "body": "sorry Alexander... i posted the news in another conference... but here it is... for all to see again... Brandon asked me to be his wife in Berlin! big fat engagement city! WER - sometime between 10-99 and 10-00... mark yer calanders! ,"}, {"response": 604, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (14:24)", "body": "OH! That - that does it! First you don't buy that bleedin', then you accept his proposal! What do you think this is, fun?"}, {"response": 605, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (14:25)", "body": "(Which is exactly what is is , Stacey! And congrats, too! Maybe you can make conditions? One could be a lifelong subscribtion to superstar... hehehe!)"}, {"response": 606, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (14:43)", "body": "I'll try and negotiate that in!"}, {"response": 607, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 9, 1999 (12:02)", "body": "Why don't you get married at the stroke of midnight on y2k. Just think how easy it would be to keep track of how long your were married. Maybe you could time it to be the first marriage of the new millenium, it would be like winning the lottery."}, {"response": 608, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 9, 1999 (12:56)", "body": "and all the headaches to go with... Paul, regardless of what month we get married, if the wedding is in 2000 it'll be easy to keep track of the years!"}, {"response": 609, "author": "floors", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (01:55)", "body": "Hi! Just checking to see how this thing works!"}, {"response": 610, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Apr 10, 1999 (23:19)", "body": "well... how DOES it work?"}, {"response": 611, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 11, 1999 (00:13)", "body": "(hope you find out before your honeymoon...)"}, {"response": 612, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Apr 11, 1999 (23:09)", "body": "terry is just dying for one of us to be the \"millenium couple!\" stella and i are planning a march, 2000 wedding. yesterday, i popped the question and gave her a lovely honker of a diamond engagement ring. we've been together for a long time, but i've not \"officially\" gotten down on one knee and given her a ring. it is done now and we are hopefully well on our way toward someday having some semblance of a normal life!"}, {"response": 613, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (04:12)", "body": "Hooooooray! Terry, thanks for changing his batteries! What wonderful things he does! Going down on ONE knee! BRILLIANT! And: CONGRATULATIONS! But a few questions - what our reader would like to know is: Ray, what did SHE say? And what is fun about a normal life? And MUST married couples lead NORMAL lifes? (And how exactly do you do that kneecap-thang?) (If that would be the case, somebody shoulda told our Ms. Vura BEFORE getting so impressed by Berlins construction sites, that she fell into this trap!) Sorry, I'm just one of these curious folks."}, {"response": 614, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (09:56)", "body": "what did she say? that *is* a good question! she said yes, of course, and was thrilled that i got down on one knee. after living thru a dysfunctional marriage for 7 years and living with stella for over 1 year, and working out of town, i am simply anxious to begin living a normal life with a normal family and a normal type of job. by all means, i feel that this is not required for all couples. its whatever makes you happy that counts."}, {"response": 615, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (10:11)", "body": "Ooooops, did I botch? You bet! Still, I'm curious how this \"going down\" works with one knee... Maybe you could illustrate that for our younger readers (perhaps somewhere in screwed)? Also, now I wonder what a normal job could be... Another screwed entry, perhaps? Do you guys have any kids living with you? Anyway, it looks as if that were something that would make you even more a very happy Ray!"}, {"response": 616, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Apr 12, 1999 (18:15)", "body": "Brandon admits to \"stacking the deck\" in his favor by proposing at a castle and getting a damned fine ring... a trap?? maybe. But I'm certainly happy to be caught by him! Congrats Ray! All this time I thought you had proposed and were formally engaged... you sneaky guy you!"}, {"response": 617, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (10:24)", "body": "so did everyone else!"}, {"response": 618, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (11:32)", "body": "Stacey, maybe you could (puleeeeze) describe the whole thing for once and for all in the Berlin topic in Travel conference - what castle? Charlottenburg? Go for the full details and high resolution option! Ray, do you have kids?"}, {"response": 619, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (11:59)", "body": "okay... I'll get something together. Reminds me... WER, did I ever send you a user name and password so's I could submit my Front Page docs??"}, {"response": 620, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (19:24)", "body": "nope..."}, {"response": 621, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (22:16)", "body": "i shall do that presently then"}, {"response": 622, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (09:17)", "body": "nope, no kids. that was part of the problem with my first marriage: i wanted kids and she didnt. i want them very badly right now, and stella and i are planning on starting a family!"}, {"response": 623, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (10:50)", "body": "woo woo!"}, {"response": 624, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (15:29)", "body": "Ray, I wish you and Stella and the bunch of little starry eyed ratthingies to-be all the best!"}, {"response": 625, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:54)", "body": "anyone else got some family ramblings?"}, {"response": 626, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:56)", "body": "if not, and/or you're really bored, go critique http://access.spring.net/~wer/jobs/ for me..."}, {"response": 627, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (13:03)", "body": "Hmh, besides the fact that I for some reason completely unknown to me hate frames, not bad. Like the background, feels familiar... There's a typo I love in the resume, so I wanna share it: \"ability to prioritize tasks to meat deadlines\" is divine!"}, {"response": 628, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (15:33)", "body": "isn't it just? (can't seem to get away from food, can I?)"}, {"response": 629, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (21:36)", "body": "Aw, you changed it!"}, {"response": 630, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Jun 14, 1999 (23:43)", "body": "yep...and the more I've thought about it, I should have changed it from \"meat deadlines\" to \"product expiration dates\""}, {"response": 631, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (12:59)", "body": "Hey, yo, Werby! Thanks for beefing up the website!"}, {"response": 632, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:25)", "body": "you welcome..."}, {"response": 633, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (09:58)", "body": "Make the borders of the frames go away, maybe?"}, {"response": 634, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (09:40)", "body": "JFK Jr. is missing. He took off last night to attend a family wedding, follow the events in news topic 30 and pray that he is ok. There is a sliver of hope to hold on to, we'll be putting news on our realaudio server and in our slideshow window. My God, I hope he is alive."}, {"response": 635, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (09:54)", "body": "i just read about this on yahoo. jeez, what did this poor family do to deserve such misery? i hope he's ok."}, {"response": 636, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (09:57)", "body": "The search continues for the small, light airplane and the four passengers, JFK Jr., his wife, his wifes sister and his flight instructor. Somewhere in the North Atlantic, I hope they're lucky."}, {"response": 637, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (14:54)", "body": "Could someone post something on either the News or the Geo conference weather pages (they are linked) about your hurricane and what Austin is experiencing. Please!"}, {"response": 638, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (07:36)", "body": "Posted! As I said, not much effect here in Austin."}, {"response": 639, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (13:47)", "body": "Thanks Terry, I telnetted that post asking for Wx information. I had not found my topic and I needed to log off. I am delighted it go here intact. I think it was one of my maiden posts."}, {"response": 640, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 9, 1999 (17:33)", "body": "See topic 21 in the vc (virtual community) conference for a letter from some German students seeking to find out about virtual community. Respond to their poll in hte topic if you like."}, {"response": 641, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 13, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "Let's find our ways to the 'spirit' conference and welcome the newby. Quote: Welcome to the spirit conference. This file may be edited by a fairwitness. 2 newresponse items 46 items numbered 1-46 You are a fairwitness in this forum profound. You have mail. Ok: r Item 1 entered Sun, Sep 7, 1997 (13:14) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry) introductions 1 new of 77 responses total. Topic 1 of 46: 'introductions' Resp 77 of 77: Phil Burton (phi) Sun, Sep 12, 1999 (21:18) 4 lines Hi. I'm Phil. I'm brand new to the Spring, after hearing about it on another conferencing system (the Well). Grew up religious, but now pursue spirituality outside of rigid walls and definitions. Inclined toward Taoism and Zen."}, {"response": 642, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Sep 13, 1999 (16:58)", "body": "WELCOME PHIL!"}, {"response": 643, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 14, 1999 (08:03)", "body": "Phil may not belong to this conference, best to welcome him in the 'spirit' conference."}, {"response": 644, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (12:02)", "body": "that would mean I'd have to walk over there... and I'm lazy... maybe I should jst write my welcome bigger so's he can see it from far away..."}, {"response": 645, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (14:56)", "body": "New topic in sports. Cricket, topic 47. I don't understand this sport!"}, {"response": 646, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (16:57)", "body": "It's sports, Terry. See, I don't understand sports."}, {"response": 647, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (19:38)", "body": "Cricket is a total mystery."}, {"response": 648, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (21:21)", "body": "Terry, if you have any fondness for baseball at all, you will quickly see the similailties with cricket. The only difference is they have two runners running back and forth between the stumps when the ball is hit into the field scoring runs as they go. The truly wicked games are test matches which run 5 days during which you carry your score with you. If you are down 200 runs at the end of the first day, you begin the second day with the same negative number. And, you don't get your turn at bat till th y are all finished their scoring....but I am not an expert in this by any stretch of the imagination...I am just learning, too. It is a very sociable game which goes on for about 5 hours a day...during which the ladies sit in summer frocks with large hats and ribbons blowing in the breezes eating goodies from picnic hampers brought from home filled with great things...There is no sight quite as lovely as seeing cricket played in early summer with the incredibly green pitch (playing area) and the men in t eir all-white uniforms...*sigh*"}, {"response": 649, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (09:48)", "body": "That's a start. But it's still a mystery."}, {"response": 650, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (13:06)", "body": "Same here. Cricket is a great sport, and I love watching it on tv, but I don't get it at all."}, {"response": 651, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (16:15)", "body": "Please see Mark's comments on Cricket: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/sports/47 but, you'll have to wade through discussions of English food first...from the non-cricket group waiting to be enlightened!"}, {"response": 652, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (10:21)", "body": "Spring is back up and running after going down last night."}, {"response": 653, "author": "Isabel", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "Good! I wondered what happened..."}, {"response": 654, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (12:56)", "body": "Autumn came but for a day..."}, {"response": 655, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (13:40)", "body": "It's very autumnlike here today. Cool and windy."}, {"response": 656, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (18:41)", "body": "finally the lady from Hawaii envies you your weather. I don't do heat!"}, {"response": 657, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (15:27)", "body": "Autumn was back?"}, {"response": 658, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 1999 (16:17)", "body": "Alas, not Spring's personification..."}, {"response": 659, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (02:07)", "body": "Has anybody mailed her, or shall I do it?"}, {"response": 660, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (12:58)", "body": "I heard from her this morning: Please tell all our fellow springeurs that I will be back this weekend--technical difficulties kept me from posting early this week (though I could read posts). Obviously, that's been corrected and I'll be back with bells on to see what's going one with all of you."}, {"response": 661, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (13:05)", "body": "Cool! Looking forward to seeing you again, Autumns!!"}, {"response": 662, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (14:52)", "body": "YES! Happy news!"}, {"response": 663, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (15:01)", "body": "They had a rough time with Hurricane Floyd including 72 hours without power. She was hoping it was their Y2K crisis a little early - or at least practice for it...!"}, {"response": 664, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (15:11)", "body": "They are well! That's all good!"}, {"response": 665, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 2, 1999 (21:55)", "body": "Yes, Indeed!"}, {"response": 666, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (08:41)", "body": "$hit! Autumn was in a hurricane! Now she'll have to compute by candle light, won't she?"}, {"response": 667, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (08:45)", "body": "I heard from her by email and she's ok but it sounds like they had a rough week and her isp was down. She should be back this weekend."}, {"response": 668, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (15:45)", "body": "Terry, I brought you a present of a new poster for Spring...another Hilo resident who just happens to be Jim Thorpe's youngest daughter. She is a good friend of mine and has a quick and agile mind. A graduate of UCLA (with a year at Northwestern) she was a music major and has major talents in lots of ways. I am sure she will be a versatile addition to the Spring. Welcome, Nancy (Now, go and post something!)"}, {"response": 669, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (09:09)", "body": "Wow, that's great Marcia."}, {"response": 670, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (12:46)", "body": "Now...to get her to post...and to find enough time after work. But, she will definitely be here - she already has her login name. She said she could easily see how I spent over 12 hours a day logged in to Spring...the truth, in fact."}, {"response": 671, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Feb 12, 2000 (13:54)", "body": "I have not given up on Nancy Thorpe (Ahia) but she has not been on for some weeks. May have to resort to land line to see how she is doing. I also might have to make a house call to bet her new computer up to speed and to show her how to use it."}, {"response": 672, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (08:55)", "body": "have nancy continue to email me"}, {"response": 673, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (10:38)", "body": "Ok! Thanks, Terry!"}, {"response": 674, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (09:09)", "body": "It may be some kind of routing problem with our backbone provider. Have her do a traceroute to spring.net and see where it ends up."}, {"response": 675, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (11:29)", "body": "I shall, but I think she is probably going to have to clear the old bookmarks first Methinks she is still trying to acces through the old ip. But, if not we'll do the traceroute and see what we get."}, {"response": 676, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (06:48)", "body": "If we can find her ip address of her provider, we can do a traceroute to her from our site and find out where the bottleneck is or if there is one at all. That will resolve the question of whether she's using the old bookmarks."}, {"response": 677, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (12:02)", "body": "I have already taken care os several ladies who have emailed me that their browsers are not opening Spring files. Invariably, when they send me the URL they are using, it is the old IP. I correct it for them and they applaud the swiftness with which they can access things on Spring now. It take a little while to get the word out to those who have been absent for a while. I'm working on it from my tiny little prospective, but it gets a few more each day."}, {"response": 678, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (17:37)", "body": "We've still got a lot of glitches in our system, one of which is that a lot of gifs were stored in the user directory called cfadm. I created a new directory called /cfadm and put all these files in here. Now I have to grep and replace all the old references to these files. The same with the /~bayou and /~terry and /~spew directories, this is clogging up our error_log file with messages like these: [Wed Feb 16 18:33:17 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~terry/cap.jpg tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:33:28 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~terry/cap.jpg [Wed Feb 16 18:33:31 2000] [error] [client 207.12.4.189] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~cfadm/a/findamazon.gif tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:33:32 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg [Wed Feb 16 18:33:33 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:34:44 2000] [error] [client 207.12.4.189] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~cfadm/a/findamazon.gif tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:34:45 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg [Wed Feb 16 18:34:45 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:35:00 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg [Wed Feb 16 18:35:00 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:35:10 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif [Wed Feb 16 18:35:10 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg [Wed Feb 16 18:35:13 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif [Wed Feb 16 18:35:13 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:36:43 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif [Wed Feb 16 18:36:43 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:36:56 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif [Wed Feb 16 18:36:56 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:36:56 2000] [error] [client 207.12.4.189] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~cfadm/a/findamazon.gif tail: /usr/bbs/resplog: No such file or directory [Wed Feb 16 18:37:29 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~spew/art/11.gif [Wed Feb 16 18:37:29 2000] [error] [client 151.201.61.36] File does not exist: /home/sprin5/virtual_html/~bayou/wolf-moon4.jpg"}, {"response": 679, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (09:36)", "body": "It will take a while, but eventually we'll get these glitches fixed. Anyone want to join the glitch fixing team?"}, {"response": 680, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (14:52)", "body": "What do we do? (I'll do anything for Spring if I know what I am doing...)"}, {"response": 681, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (14:55)", "body": "I fixed my title page in Geo...Wolf should have no trouble with hers... I offered to help her, even...*sigh*"}, {"response": 682, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (15:00)", "body": "Hey, Terry, it is easy. I got my amazon back on by removing the tilde from cfadm in the image source URL. Easy! Shall I do the rest???"}, {"response": 683, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (23:37)", "body": "Sure, do it!"}, {"response": 684, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (23:53)", "body": "Well, I tried in springark and nothing changed. I tried in Paraspring where I am not a host and my changes were refused. Suggestions?"}, {"response": 685, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (00:09)", "body": "Yep, get on the host list."}, {"response": 686, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:25)", "body": "I shall ask her permission - I think only she should do it...stepping on toes and all that... Thank you!"}, {"response": 687, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:27)", "body": "I believe most of paraspring's graphics problems have been resolved now."}, {"response": 688, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:30)", "body": "Thank you. Wolfie will be delighted when she logs in. Do you still think If I download and use FrontPage I will be able to restore my graphics? They are all over Spring including in Spring gallery, travel, and assorted other places."}, {"response": 689, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:33)", "body": "As near as I can tell, not everything on the old servers made the move. There are certain directories that I have discovered are not here now. I do not know it the same applies to individual files or not."}, {"response": 690, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:37)", "body": "Several of us have decided to leave those \"where an image should be\" there until someone requests its appearance. Since I am one of those strange people with the complete files of responses and image urls, I can easily look it up and either post it again if it is worthy, or just send it in email to the curious reader. Do I really need FrontPage to work with Geo and other things around Spring?"}, {"response": 691, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (12:46)", "body": "I do not have it so I am not the one to ask."}, {"response": 692, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (14:51)", "body": "I am World Builder again. Yippee! You cannot imagine (or maybe you can) how happy that makes this little person. That answers my question, thank you. Not going to bother with FrontPage for now, anyway. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 70, "subject": "What's hot around the spring and new topics", "response_count": 70, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (03:06)", "body": ">For openers, you can learn about Bucky Fuller in the new topic in science. midnightwolf.net is activated and has a topic in the projects conference. The NBA playoffs are heating up in sports. Right here in the porch, we're talking about austen.com's phenomenal success and what to do about it's growing pains. Don't be afraid to find an \"orphan\" or neglected topic somewhere around the spring and revive it! The same goes with latent conferences. If you're interested in something, there's probably a topic somewhere for you. If there isn't you can create one or ask one of the hosts to create one. If you want to pump up the spring, feel free to take individaul conference or topic url's and submit them to search engines. It will help attract new folks and build up our synergy."}, {"response": 2, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (03:08)", "body": "Topic 109 in this conference has been frozen and this one is taking it's place (I'm talking drool)."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (12:20)", "body": "I created a new topic in Geo for Earth Mysteries which don't fall into any other categories. We can talk about pyramidology, yeti, space ships in the middle of the earth, lost continents, crop circles, whatever...! Prior to that I created a topic for Geothermal stuff - geysers and other forms"}, {"response": 4, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (14:45)", "body": "I'm laboring on the main page today, creating new buttons and pages for membership, help, shopping (go there and click on the Visto link and sign up for more Visto accounts, sign up your spouse, your kids, your pet Panda etc.)."}, {"response": 5, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (14:47)", "body": "Your pet lizard . . . You get the idea. The Spring makes $2 every time you sign up for Visto."}, {"response": 6, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (18:30)", "body": "Geo . Check it out!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (18:33)", "body": "Drool is always hot. They talking about ods and end, Colin Firth, and our thoughts are for Patas."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (19:01)", "body": "We be busy in the Jewelry department and Crop circles, and at any given moment, EARTHQUAKE!!! is shakin' or vulcanology is steaming since I am here live and direct. Archaeology is digging in for the long term, Geothermal is Hot, lots of good stuff in there and we also wander off topic like the tango lessons in Bioregions with Elena and Alexander last year...Gotta go and post some more... Y'all come!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (23:38)", "body": "Geo"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (02:57)", "body": "Terry, I did as you suggested and did a Google search for topics in Geo. And for Geo by itself. Nothing was found, but Spring.net showed up right away. any idea why that might be? I discovered that there is a lot of stuff on the wet starting with or containing the word Geo in any way shape or form."}, {"response": 11, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (07:17)", "body": "Take your geo url and submit it to the search engines. You an also set up a portal page at http://www.spring.net/geo if you like. And someday you may even want to cook up your own domain name and build a sit around that. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/geo/all is the url to submit to the search engines with descriptive keywords etc. You can do this on http://www.submit-it.com/"}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (12:08)", "body": "Alright! Thank you. I will try what you suggested and report back as to the search engines. Then, will try the portal page thing. How interesting... May I wallpaper it and all that good stuff? (Guess you'd better go look and see, Marci!)"}, {"response": 13, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (17:37)", "body": "Sure, go for it! Let us know your progress."}, {"response": 14, "author": "Ann", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (21:05)", "body": "Terry, has Visto paid up? I know you were having trouble with that lately."}, {"response": 15, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (22:14)", "body": "As I recall, Terry said he needed to supply Visto with a T.I.N. Has that been done yet?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (06:51)", "body": "Not yet, thanks for the reminder."}, {"response": 17, "author": "Saskia", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (16:00)", "body": "There seems to much going on and in the Spring. I must explore further."}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (16:21)", "body": "Oh Please Do!!! For starters there is Geo http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/new"}, {"response": 19, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (17:25)", "body": "Welcome Saskia!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (07:14)", "body": "Last night I went out for a margarita and Mexican dinner at Guero's on South Congress. The frozen margarita's were excellent, the salsas were fine and the chips were fresh. The atmosphere there is superb, it's set in a former feed mill and some of the trappings of those days still hang on the wal Read more in restaurants topic 3, about the celebrity sitings there (clue, POTUS and Wild Things). This place is charged with electricity and I dare you to go there on your next visit to Austin."}, {"response": 21, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (07:32)", "body": "Do you want to have some fun in the snow? Somewhere on the spring I've posted a link to some winter fun. I challenge you to find it!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (07:56)", "body": "Do you ever feeling like we're wandering around inside a big mansion with about 40 rooms sometimes? I mean, here on the Spring. So many topics. Find a n out of the way room, and post something there. Surprise us!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (08:52)", "body": "I know a guy who used to hang around Northern California named J Baldwin who hung around with Bucky Fuller for 33 some odd years (off and on). He taught me that you need to drive big trucks with your thumbs up on the steering wheel so you don't injure them if the wheel jerks back. J was full of perceptive comments on just about everything. > >Anyway, check out > > http://www.hearingvoices.com/bucky/ > >and our own discussion on Bucky at http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/science/30"}, {"response": 24, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (13:27)", "body": "Found your snow, and posted a commment. Likewise, 'eat at Little italy' (don't I wish!)...and been to see Bucky - but I navigate the spring blindfolded so I am not the one for whom the above posts were intended! See you at other Aesoteric places online! Did y'll see where the tsunami is heading? I posted that one. Grab your waterwings and hunt it down!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (13:48)", "body": "Did y'll see where the tsunami is heading? I posted that one. Grab your waterwings and hunt it down! That's Marcia! Our fun lady full of games. :-) Are you talking about the planet alignment that is to occur tomorrow?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (14:54)", "body": "Speaking of games, anyone try the little snow game I recommended in the web conference cool urls topic?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (15:13)", "body": "In the radio conference, Bobaroo responds to the topic \"buyer beware\"; with his views on Crazy Al's deal at the Belton hamfest. Give him some support and advice."}, {"response": 28, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (17:21)", "body": "In Space Science News on Geo you can learn all about the upcoming planetary alignment and about mass solar ejections. Good stuff to know..."}, {"response": 29, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (17:25)", "body": "Moon, it is ccovered in NASA's website link available on Geo 34. I just posted it. I'll play with the snow as soon as I go as soothe Bob...first things, first! (Tsunami stuff is in EARTHQUAKE!!! on Geo)"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (22:21)", "body": "I am on one of the university computers while I wait for the banquet to begin. I have arranged 24 candles in holders, one each for the 24 seniors who will extinguish their academic flames. I chose cobalt blue holders and red candles this year since our colors are red, white and blue. Usually, I choose clear ones with white candles, but this year I am being different. The tables are being decorated with small orchids and wee anthuriums with greenery. Looks great. Food will be ...uh...Marriott provided...in the campus cafeteria in steam tables. Not a gourmet feast tonight, but it will be filling! Windows NT is ok, and I had no trouble getting on the spring even though I chose the IE to access the web rather than netscape. My marble still looks good but this computer is about as lame as they come as far as color and definition goes. Yeesh! What I would do with this if it were mine!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, May 4, 2000 (23:21)", "body": "Watch out for the I LOVE YOU virus. Don't open any email with the subject I LOVE YOU, it's deadly. It will wreck your computer and email it on to all the folks on your email list."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 5, 2000 (15:15)", "body": "I hear you. However, I do not use Outlook and do not use Internet Explorer. That means I cannot see the lovelies on your main page but it means I am not likely to be infected by this one, either. However, since I do not get any email normally with the subjct I LOVE YOU, I'd be sure to notice it in the event I did. Thanks for the warning."}, {"response": 33, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, May 12, 2000 (09:13)", "body": "I got a call from a rep from Webex http://www.webex.com yesterday and she told me the Spring could have a meeting center on Webex for $200 a month, and I tried it and was very impressed. I am interested in finding out if there would be any support for trying it out for a month on a trial basis? Basically, it's a web based version of Microsoft Netmeeting, which facilitates working meetings and interaction. I am looking at this as a way, combined with Dialpad, that we can connect with each other, work together and communicate on deeper levels. It offers interactive web browsing with text chat and application sharing. I could use it to help new users come on line and set up their conferences and prefrences, and help folks to manage the system and create their own webs. I see it as a useful tool if enough folks were interested in interacting this way. There is a copy of the user guide at this web address, but you'll need Adobe Acrobat set up to read it as it's in pdf format. http://meetingcenter.webex.com/webex/site/WMCUserGuide3_5.pdf"}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 13, 2000 (12:55)", "body": "Got Adobe so I shall go read it. Dialpad has serious drawbacks with the echo. It was severe enough that when I called you with the information that the Spring was frozen that time, I used regular land line. However, if this is text, perhaps it is worth the try. Can we afford $200?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, May 14, 2000 (08:16)", "body": "Well, we could use NetMeeting and Microsoft Messenger to do essentially the same thing for free. But it requres more effort on the part of users. I've got Dialpad configured now to where the echo isn't so bad. It seems to work differently on different setups, depending on your sound card, your settings and what type of input device you're using (headset mike combos seem to work the best). Why don't you, Marcia, contact Webex and have them run you through a demo and I could take part in it with a couple of other folks. They said they would let us do more demo meetings."}, {"response": 36, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, May 14, 2000 (13:58)", "body": "Thanks for the suggestion Terry. I'll contact webex tomorrow. The problem seems to be only when I am using the phone and you are using the mike. Perish the thought, but it just might be Hawaiian Tel which is at fault! We used to get terrible satellite echo when calling the mainland. Most of that has been cleared up, but not all. They often suggest you hang up and try rerouting the call till it becomes clear enough to understand. I will check with Webex for their suggestions abd get back to you."}, {"response": 37, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (08:43)", "body": "Yep, thanks. Maybe they can set up a meeting with you, Ann, Evelyn, and whoever else wants to join us. Can you round up some folks?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (11:10)", "body": "I'll do my best - ah, this is who Webex is and I already have it downloaded, of course - though last time I tried to get into my dialpad it told me they could not load the Java. Have no idea why... I just need to wake up a bit and see who I can find. It might have to be after work this evening (for you) to get Ann in on the conversation."}, {"response": 39, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (11:16)", "body": "Btw, some of these ladies think they are tech-impaired and don't want to bother downloading something like DialPad - they won't even read or post in Geo because it is too technical. That tells me they have not ever read anything in there because it is anything but technical and dry. Oh well, all I can do is to try."}, {"response": 40, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (11:42)", "body": "On a seperate topic, the crafts conference has been created. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/crafts/all"}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (12:10)", "body": "Thank you! Wow! I'll wait patiently for Wolfie to get home from work...or try to, anyway *smile*"}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (12:11)", "body": "oh, and *Hugs* for taking the time to do it. Much appreciated!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (12:43)", "body": "Thanks C. F. Adm!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, May 15, 2000 (13:41)", "body": "So much for waiting for Wolfie....I have created a few topics so it looks like someone was interested. It is nice to have such a talent as C.F. Adm in our midst. My Mahalos are added to yours."}, {"response": 45, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (06:06)", "body": "Expect more comments on restaurants after I get my hands of the Austin Chronicle \"Best of Austin Restaurants\" issue."}, {"response": 46, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (06:16)", "body": "OPEN SOURCE DEMOCRACY: A Dutch-led research consortium has put in a bid for European funding to develop non-proprietary, open- source software for large-scale democratic debate, potentially supporting discussion by more than a million participants at a time. The ISSUE consortium, led by the Dutch new media company Spirit, has entered the proposal under the European Commission's 5th Framework for research and technological development, which includes a specific programme for a user-friendly information society. The proposal includes plans for industry-led technical research and development combined with research by social psychologists and political scientists; test beds in Rotterdam, Belfast (supporting the peace process), Nuremberg and Vienna, with a working prototype planed by year two of the project; and all research to be 'open source' and Linux-based (although some business prospects are also expected). A spokesman told E-Government Bulletin: \"We feel that there is mileage to be had from getting people sharing ideas, experiences and software to counter the inevitable attempts by proprietary software developers to control this market. ISSUE will have an impact on professional lobbyists, on pressure groups (one is never certain if they have the public backing they claim to have), and on the discussion about referenda.\" See: http://www.issue.spirit.nl [Courtesy Dan Jellinek ] From: _/ B y t e s F o r A l l --- http://www.bytesforall.org _/ Making Computing Relevant to The Common (Wo)man MAY2000 _/ Editors: Frederick Noronha (India) Partha Sarkar (Bangladesh) Comment in topic 24 in the vc conference. Which I just started."}, {"response": 47, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (07:05)", "body": "Something new you can play with: http://www.spring.net/searchbutton.html"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (15:25)", "body": "Ok later - as soon as all the sites on spring are back up..."}, {"response": 49, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 20, 2000 (18:17)", "body": "Happy Armed Forces Day - and Thank You!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 26, 2000 (17:02)", "body": "thank you!!"}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 26, 2000 (18:01)", "body": "Happy Memorial Day"}, {"response": 52, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (13:22)", "body": "Yep, happy Memorial Day!"}, {"response": 53, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, May 27, 2000 (15:25)", "body": "see whatcha get for telnetting all the time? You can only see my html proigramming but not the result. There is a pretty cool flag on the Armed Forces Day post..."}, {"response": 54, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Aug 28, 2000 (09:11)", "body": "This from CommNet in UK: AUGUST 30TH VIRTUAL CONFERENCE ON COMMUNITY NETWORK DEVELOPMENT I am delighted to invite you to participate in a free virtual conference on August 30th on the theme of using Information and Communications Technology to help communities build sustainable networks and strengthen social and economic wealth. There will be innovative ideas from across the globe, including Peru, Canada, USA, UK, Africa, Asia and Australia. The conference will be broadcast twice during the day to cover different global time zones. You can see the latest information about the conference at the following web address :- http://www.harborough.org.uk/webcast/August2000Conference.htm where you will also be able to register. Everyone who registers will receive a copy of the electronic survey results on building sustainable community networks. Please join me on Wednesday and share your knowledge and ideas with some of the best community network champions around the world. David Wortley Virtual Conference Project Manager Mass Mitec \"WHO CARES WINS\" ."}, {"response": 55, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Aug 28, 2000 (14:57)", "body": "Talk about CBS' Survivor in the tv conference. CBS will reportedly run all 13 episodes of 'Survivor' starting on 9/15 to counter-program against the Olympics."}, {"response": 56, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (11:39)", "body": "Welcome to the bronte conference. This file may be edited by a fairwitness. 1 brandnew item 66 items numbered 1-70 You are a fairwitness in this conference. You have mail. Ok: r Item 70 entered Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (12:23) by wooster3 (wooster3) questions about Shirley Hi, I am a college student who is taking a class based entirely on Charlotte Bronte this semester. Right now we are examining Shirley. I was wondering if you have an insight on feminist ideas and symbolisms in the novel?"}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (19:16)", "body": "Neil has created a new topic in Geo about Flight. He is super-interested and knowledgable in this area and as soo as I cna twist his arm sufficiently I hope someone who can do it will create a conference dealing with Flight. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/geo/42/"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 12, 2000 (19:19)", "body": "...it would also help if I were not typing dyslectic..."}, {"response": 59, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 21, 2000 (16:03)", "body": "Just unbelievable! Check it out in topic 3 on cool url's in the web conference."}, {"response": 60, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 21, 2000 (16:09)", "body": "http://hakubo.57thstreet.com/~jeff/ Some cool pix thaken with a cool digital camera around Austin, Colorado and other places. Some of Whole foods."}, {"response": 61, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 21, 2000 (16:10)", "body": "http://www.adcritic.com has some funny, funny commercials. The slapping contest and the bicycle one are pretty funny."}, {"response": 62, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 21, 2000 (16:28)", "body": "OK...will look. When and if you are ever interested in a aviation cnference I hav a guy ready and willing to do it. He even has a list of topics and he can fill books with what he knows..."}, {"response": 63, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 22, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "Let's do it then. Email his contact information. What will we call the conference? aviation? flying? airplanes? Who will co-host?"}, {"response": 64, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (09:38)", "body": "Three guys from Montana got patent 6,042,508 for a dumbbell that is also a TV-VCR remote Read more in the business conference, hosted by Mike Griggs."}, {"response": 65, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Jan 2, 2001 (18:40)", "body": "*laugh*"}, {"response": 66, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jan 4, 2001 (08:13)", "body": "You have to pump it up to change channels!"}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (16:33)", "body": "*Not gonna touch that for anything* Of course I would co-host with Neil on the Flight/Aviation conference and teach him all I know )Eeeek!) about programming and so on. I have just pasted him your comment and lets see his reaction. He does have some problems in that he is using an iMac, but he can get most of what I can and managed to create his topic under my guidance perefectly!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (23:09)", "body": "I'll be glad to help set it up."}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (13:13)", "body": "I asked him last evening about it. He thinks he needs to work on his skills on Geo's Flight topic for a little bit more - though he got his ftp program downloaded and ready. I'll work on him some more. He has all the topics worked out already - but I remember how intimidating it feels to be thrust into a conference newborn and innocent. I never learned so fast as I learned that July 10th when Geo was born!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (14:00)", "body": "What is IT? Oh, only an invention bigger than the Internet. Interested, check it out in the science conference. But don't get too excited, yet. It's still a guessing game. But it's hot enought that Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos (amazon.com) are going nuts over it. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 71, "subject": "EFF - Freedom of Speech on the Internet", "response_count": 2, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:55)", "body": "This is a great organization. We used to have a local chapter in Austin and I mess the meetings at the French restaurant on Lamar. Teh website is http://www.eff.org ."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:07)", "body": "I thought if we linked it ... please allow me to post your important post which caused me to put this topic here: EFF, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, is a non-profit, non-partisan organization working in the public interest to protect fundamental civil liberties, including privacy and freedom of expression, in the arena of computers and the Internet. EFF was founded in 1990, and is based in San Francisco, California, with offices in Washington, DC, and New York City. The vast web of electronic media that connects us is heralding a new age of communications. New digital networks offer a tremendous potential to empower individuals in an ever-overpowering world. However, these communications networks are also the subject of significant debate concerning governance and jurisdiction. For, while the free flow of information is generally a positive thing, serious problems arise when information flows free--problems such as how to protect children and undesiring adults from exposure to sexually explicit or potentially offensive materials; how to protect intellectual property rights; how to determine which country's laws have jurisdiction over a medium that is nowhere and everywhere at the same time; how best to protect privacy while still permitting recovery for harm; how to ensure that legislators, access providers, intellectual property holders and disgruntled network users do not stifle disagreeable or controversial speech. While well-established legal principles and cultural norms give structure and coherence to uses of conventional media, the new digital media do not fit so easily into existing frameworks. Founded in July of 1990, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is dedicated to finding ways to resolve these and other conflicts while ensuring that essential civil liberties are protected. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 72, "subject": "Spring hosted websites", "response_count": 2, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (09:41)", "body": "Domain Name http://atlantea.com http://207.0.32.119 http://austen.com http://208.171.121.122 http://bioregion.com http://207.0.32.157 http://childrenstory.com http://207.0.32.158 http://colinfirth.com http://207.0.32.155 http://divecruise.com http://207.0.32.166 http://eatsolar.com http://208.165.68.149 http://firth.com http://207.0.32.155 http://georgebush2000.net http://207.0.35.126 http://golftravel.net http://207.0.32.165 http://jefftv.com http://207.0.38.3 http://lifespaces.com http://207.0.32.120 http://midnightwolf.net http://207.0.38.107 http://miniaturebooks.com http://207.0.32.123 http://mitchie.com http://207.0.32.210 http://motorblade.com http://207.0.32.122 http://mysticalplaces.com http://207.0.32.121 http://poolgoods.com http://207.0.32.160 http://primoincense.com http://207.0.32.100 http://repeater.org http://208.171.127.70 http://saveseed.com http://207.0.32.163 http://silkcloth.com http://207.0.32.164 http://spring.net http://208.165.85.156 http://springincense.com http://207.0.32.100 http://suzyamis.com http://208.171.121.38 http://tcares.org http://207.0.35.140 http://tvreviewer.com http://207.0.32.159 http://webarter.net http://207.0.35.107 http://wholetech.com http://207.0.32.162 http://workontheweb.com http://207.0.32.161"}, {"response": 2, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (09:42)", "body": "If you see a website that you'd like to be a part of, or be an ecommerce partner, let me know and we can set you up as a partner and give you authoring rights. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 74, "subject": "Where are they now?", "response_count": 42, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (08:33)", "body": "Nancy Palmarini (nan) has finished school and is rumored to be dipping her toes in to the cool spring water. She wants to help out Karen with drool buttons, but may need a new username and password. I don't have power to look up or change passwords of conference participants. She may go in to web design or Information Architecture now that she's got her traing in Interactive Communications. nan@ntr.net"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, May 30, 2000 (13:24)", "body": "Welcome back to Outer Spring (\"other than Drool\")...Geez, have I been here long enough that I remember you back when you were just one of the \"girls\"...yup! *Hugs* and let me know of your success. I need the same for a telnet account (Yeah, call Kat...sigh...)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 1, 2000 (07:49)", "body": "What's happening with Autumn these days?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 3, 2000 (23:50)", "body": "She's been hanging around the food conference."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 3, 2000 (23:58)", "body": "Btw, I emailed Alexander today to check up on his well-being. I am concerned about Springizens when they don't at least lurk once in a while! I will let you know when I hear from him. I might have just brought a bunch of \"different\" lurkers onto Spring. When I signed up for Yahoo Messenger and voice chat I put as \"my\" webpage Geo's public/all and did some personal inviting as well. What I won't do to promote Spring! (Don't ask!) Incidently, the Voice chat worked very well with Maggie in England, and a 12 year old in Vancouver. Loud and clear and thoroughly hilarious"}, {"response": 6, "author": "nan", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (17:11)", "body": "on the porch (sprin5) So, that *is* you ;-p I was wondering who that sprin5 person was... She wants to help out Karen with drool buttons, but may need a new username and password. Oh...must I? I've been trying to find some way around that. \"nan\" is so crisp and much more effective than \"nan237\" or whatever ;-p Can I just resign and then re-register using the name username? I don't have power to look up or change passwords of conference participants. Well, you wouldn't have to look it up or change it, as I do know what it is (at least I think I do...maybe my brain is fogged). I just need to have it activated."}, {"response": 7, "author": "nan", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (20:28)", "body": "Actually, I just need to be able to FTP to my nan file (if it still exists, that is ;-p) and if not, then I need to have some kind of FTP permission so I can upload some stuff for drool. Okeedokee?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 10, 2000 (21:26)", "body": "He can set you up - he did me and I transferred everything from the old to my hard drive then over to the new one. I think when the old server disconnected that was it! Where is Alexander? I emailed him and for the first time ever he did not respond. I can only hope that he is busy and happy and perhaps kidnapped by nubile maidens with lust for him in their hearts..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (10:22)", "body": "Poor guy, when I get my dsl I'm going to put the old servers back on line again ... not as the main site, but as an archive."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (21:24)", "body": "on palmphone gorgeous sunset at lake travis oasis'"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (21:31)", "body": "How do we see it in Hawaii?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (23:43)", "body": "ruta maya coffeehous\ufffdon4th"}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 24, 2000 (23:47)", "body": "is that English??? or some code like in the Times?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (21:53)", "body": "its agreat day at vonis out at lake travis there are a bunch of nia women sitting on a grassy hillside overlooking lake travis folks are swimming out in the lake filled with sailboats and motorboats laura cambria and holly are talking niatalk since youve come in to my life everythings changed \ufffd guess ill go in the water."}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (22:02)", "body": "Um...Terry, are you ok? Have not heard of nia and have no clue what you are talking about. Who came into your life and everythings changed. Sheesh, we're always the last to know... Enjoy!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jul 2, 2000 (09:37)", "body": "That was a comment I overheard, I wrote that on my Palm Phone so it's a bit garbled because I was using graffiti writing. It was a great party at Joni's place with mostly folks from the Nia Dance group in Austin. We swam out to a float and had a wonderful pot luck dinner. Joni and her husband Kenny started the Ommeletry Restaurant in Austin. They really have a dream place out there right on the edge of Lake Travis. Their house is like one of those handmade homes you see in coffee table books, with a floor of big tiles and all kinds of neat touches. No, I haven't gone south yet, I just have a hard time scrawmy pal so y'all will have to cut me some slack when I compose stuff in the field like this."}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 2, 2000 (14:30)", "body": "What a relief. I thought you were on some home made brownies or something... We'll be kind... It is fun to hear from you in the field!!!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jul 2, 2000 (21:44)", "body": "\"scrawmy pal\" was a typo but I forget what was supposed to say."}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 2, 2000 (21:58)", "body": "I was wondering who was gonna be offended by that, but I just left it alone, being that it's Sunday and all that..."}, {"response": 20, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (01:11)", "body": "Where is Alexander? Where is Stacey? Jim Gross? Other inhabitants of Inner whose names temporarily escape me (until I go and look them up in the log in about fifteen seconds time...) It would be good to have those people back. We used to have a thriving little close-knit group."}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (21:32)", "body": "i miss everyone too! and i'm so excited to see you back here, mike!! *HUGS*"}, {"response": 22, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (13:57)", "body": "I tried to contact Alexander without success. It is the first time he has not responded to my email. Have no idea what is happening with him. Stacey is busy in Colorado doing her own business; Anybody want to see what I do and try to make a little money too?? Check out www.mshow.com/millionaire. Our goal (as a company) is to test the limit of the software... we're trying to get as many as 10,000 simeltaneous log-ins on at least one show. Thanks! StaceyLeigh Tinianov Manager, Process Architecture & Change Management MSHOW.com 1745 Shea Center Dr. Ste 200 Highlands Ranch, CO 80129 303-730-4926 stinianov@mshow.com Jim Gross is gone - I have never met him."}, {"response": 23, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (14:16)", "body": "Wow, heavy duty, I see why Stace' is so busy. Hope she comes and visits from time to time!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (18:22)", "body": "Get her in here, she owes us a visit by now :-) Someone call her up!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "Phoenix", "date": "Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (17:51)", "body": "test"}, {"response": 26, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Oct 30, 2002 (16:22)", "body": "Hey Mike... now it's my turn to ask... Where are YOU??? BTW, Jim is fine and doing his thing in Austin still, haven't heard from Alexander or Ree-head in years..."}, {"response": 27, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, May 25, 2003 (05:53)", "body": "I'm here....only about 8 months late :-)"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 29, 2003 (09:15)", "body": "But you're here now and that's what counts."}, {"response": 29, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, May 29, 2003 (15:53)", "body": ":-)"}, {"response": 30, "author": "ankush", "date": "Thu, May 29, 2003 (16:34)", "body": ""}, {"response": 31, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jun 4, 2003 (05:13)", "body": "?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jun 16, 2003 (09:44)", "body": "Nice to 'see' you again Mike!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jun 23, 2003 (12:12)", "body": ":-)))"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 24, 2003 (23:40)", "body": "Yeah, what's the latest scoop Mike? Stacey?"}, {"response": 35, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jun 25, 2003 (15:30)", "body": "check me out in \"Inner\"..."}, {"response": 36, "author": "stacey", "date": "Sat, Jul 5, 2003 (18:20)", "body": "ah... the scoop... There's the quick answer and the lengthy answer. Suffice it to say all is going pretty well and I'll begin detailing the intimacies of my life *grin* later! We've had some up-down issues with Ri but things are definitely looking up now!"}, {"response": 37, "author": "Baitman", "date": "Sat, Jul 5, 2003 (21:32)", "body": "Good"}, {"response": 38, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Jul 6, 2003 (12:53)", "body": "glad to hear it..."}, {"response": 39, "author": "HappyLuna", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 2003 (21:12)", "body": "What happened to Heidi?"}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 1, 2003 (03:44)", "body": "Heidi?"}, {"response": 41, "author": "dot", "date": "Mon, Jan 3, 2005 (12:13)", "body": "Heidi?"}, {"response": 42, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 16, 2005 (19:58)", "body": "Heide decided Drool was taking up way too much of real life for her so she opted out. Others have quit from Carpal-Tunnel and others just got on with life. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 75, "subject": "Jane Eyre on Broadway", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 76, "subject": "Membership--Support The Spring!", "response_count": 20, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (02:16)", "body": "OK, I created this topic to ask the question of myself more than anything :-) I would definitely consider signing up for one of the monthly payment levels. The first problem is actually getting the payment to Terry: I can't make payments into a US bank without incurring *big* charges, and Spring can't (?) accept credit card payments. Catch-22. Secondly, what is the benefit of the Patron level vs. the Member level (apart from the smug feeling of self-satisfaction ;-)) ? Maybe the patron level could offer even more teasing options...just a thought. So, what say you all?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (09:46)", "body": "There's finally a way. PayPal now accepts International payments. They go against your credit card or can be debited from your bank account (your choice). They can be made to anyone with an email addresss. Wish it was functional when I was doing the fundraising a couple of months ago."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (20:06)", "body": "It works, Mike _ I used it and Karen should have both my extra $5.00 and her finder's fee to forward to Terry!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (21:02)", "body": "I haven't gotten the referral bonus for you yet, Marcia, and have emailed them. BTW, the payments are still going to Kaylene as we still have an outstanding balance. If you want to sign up, Mike, I can post my link so that I'll get the referral bonus and you will get whatever is being offered as an equivalent. All bonuses collected are being turned over to pay for the Yapp bill. https://secure.paypal.x.com/refer/pal=rosie45%40hotmail.com"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (21:29)", "body": "oh no, am i a member or a patron??? *ack*"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (21:34)", "body": "Go to the www.spring.net page and access the membership link."}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (21:37)", "body": "k!! (hi marcia *HUGS*)"}, {"response": 8, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (03:06)", "body": "Sounds good. Why are we paying for Yapp, by the way? It sucks in a serious way :-)"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (07:50)", "body": "Why? Otherwise, there'd be no Spring. The number of daily hits has vastly exceeded the limits of our license, causing Yapp to shut itself off periodically. Frankly, I like Yapp. Do you know of any other conferencing software? Our discussions would be sooooo boring if we had a threaded message board IMO."}, {"response": 10, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (12:28)", "body": "I don't like threading either. However, at Delphi (www.delphi.com) there's quite a nice compromise between linear discussion (just as we have here) and being able to reference somebody else's message. You should check it out. I really like it there. As for other conferencing software, there is other stuff around but it's probably not much better. There are lots of things I would like to be able to do (go to the Suggestion Box topic and look back about 12 months...all of those things, plus more :-) but Yapp either seems to (a) not support them or (b) be so complex to set up/lacking in documentation that it's not possible. Still, this is just me all over. Never satisfied with what's available, always wanting more :-) Just ask anyone here, they'll tell you *grin* But, if we're paying for Yapp maybe we could look elsewhere. Just to evaluate possibilities...."}, {"response": 11, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Dec 3, 2000 (09:47)", "body": "OK, there is a message board written in Perl called DCForum . There is a 'lite' version, which is $35 and the full version is $99/year. This software is very much like the Delphi that I described earlier. I like it a lot. How much is being paid for Yapp?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Dec 3, 2000 (09:52)", "body": "Oh, the Lite version is also free to download for non-profit/personal use. Ideal for evaluation purposes."}, {"response": 13, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (10:55)", "body": "We, and by \"we\" I mean mostly the Ladies of Drool, put up around $1,300 for an extended Yapp license. I just sent Kaylene $339 and got $50 back in Paypal payments (for which I sent out some color nature photos). I like Yapp and folks here have managed to live with it, but I'm always open to a better solution. Cheaper may not be better . You can't beat the support that Kaylene and http://www.armidalesoftware.com provide. By the way, Mike, this is a good website to get some of your hosting questions answered, they have the technical docs for hosts that you'll need for your business conference (some of which are in the spring's help web pages)."}, {"response": 14, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (11:17)", "body": "And the license is forever, in essence, until we exceed a certain number of hits per day on a recurring basis. This is NOT an annual fee. Also, some of the payment was for additional consultant services associated with Spring's move to digihost."}, {"response": 15, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (15:33)", "body": "Exactly Karen, Kaylene has been extremely nice and tolerant in letting me \"ride\" on this bill for a long time. And I am grateful that we were able to all pitch in and meet this obligation."}, {"response": 16, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 4, 2000 (18:03)", "body": "*Breathing out again* Much thanks to Karen for her persistence adn not taking no for an answer. We need each other and I am more than pleased that it all has been taken care of - if I understand correctly. Mike, Yapp works great - has for me in Geo, at least! And crafts conference..."}, {"response": 17, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (18:24)", "body": "Once again I'll be leaving this subject alone."}, {"response": 18, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (18:24)", "body": "Once again I'll be leaving this subject alone."}, {"response": 19, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Dec 6, 2000 (18:24)", "body": "Twice :-)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (14:24)", "body": "Time to donate! I just spent a bucketload on a new server and owe for another year. I'm out a few thou and could use some help, especially with the year's server hosting fee which is due now. Paypal banking@wholetech.com ... any amount appreciated. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 77, "subject": "Paypal on the Spring", "response_count": 10, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 1, 2000 (09:27)", "body": "The first 15 folks to send $25 via the Paypal button at http://www.spring.net will get an 8x10 original glossy picture of a nature scene at the Spring's ranch in picturesque Cedar Creek, Texas."}, {"response": 2, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (13:30)", "body": "I made a Paypal payment to Kaylene Thaler (from the company that makes our conferencing software) and I received two $25 PayPal payments. By the way, if you sign up for Paypal on the Spring's referral page at http://www.spring.net/paypal the Spring gets $5 for each referral. We no longer get referral fees from Visto, as they've stopped their program. So now we're using Paypal as our source of clickthrough revenue. I still feel like the Visto folks have a good service and I never saw how they could afford those $2/signup referral fees they were paying. I think they must have gotten deluged with scam artists, which hurt the folks like us who were using it as a legitimate source of revenue. So I'm going to take two pictures today and get them off in the mail to our first two generous PayPal donors!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (14:44)", "body": "Thanks to all the folks who sent contributions and the PayPal contributions today, our bill with Kaylene is paid. I just got this from her in email. I have received your payment and upgraded your license. You can now have up to 10000 hits per day at your web site before your license will need to be upgraded. Kaylene"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (16:43)", "body": "But she had said it would be upped to 12000 hits per day... BTW, Terry, I think the people of Drool should be thanked for paying nearly 80% of the bill."}, {"response": 5, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (16:49)", "body": "Thanks to the people of Drool! I would be interested to know whether they generate more/less than 80% of the hits. Does anyone know?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (17:23)", "body": "This, of course, wouldn't be the place as very few people from Drool go into other conferences."}, {"response": 7, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (17:42)", "body": "The question was directed at Terry."}, {"response": 8, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (18:16)", "body": "Agree...I think it would be v. much appreciated if Terry thanked Drool for their efforts in the fund-raising endeavor. I always go to the Spring Pledge Topic, Occasionally here, but no where else.Mostly time restraints. BTW thanks Terry for setting up Pay Pal. I was the collectiion agent in England in Sept./Oct.I exchanged their UK Pounds and converted it to $$$.And handed it over to Karen at O'Hare in Chicago on my return.This new procedure will be easier. I posted the info on #134 and #130 where many of the overseas folks hang-out."}, {"response": 9, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (18:55)", "body": "We owe a huge THANK YOU to the people of Drool! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Drool Rules! And I'll thank them in topic 100 in Drool so they'll see it, as well."}, {"response": 10, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (14:25)", "body": "New paypal is banking@wholetech.com Now is the time I especially need contributions to keep Spring, Firth and Drool running as I moved to a new server and owe a year's hosting fee... priority: high. Urgency: high. Thanks, Terry porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 78, "subject": "", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 79, "subject": "Spring Bandwidth Crisis", "response_count": 44, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (08:13)", "body": "Today I got a an unexpected charge of 494.96, added to other unexpected charges of 35.00, 46.00, 119.85, and 578.08. This is over a thousand dollars in unexpected and unbudgeted for charges in the past few days. I have called and left a message with the CEO of Digihost, our bandwidth provider, and told him that it is urgent that we need to talk. I simply can't afford these kinds of charges and can't expect the community to keep coming up with this kind of support as they have been doing. I submitted a new plan to them yesterday. Hopefully, we an resolve something today on this."}, {"response": 2, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (08:15)", "body": "These charges are related mostly to the heavy volume of traffic on spring.net, childrenstory.com, austen.com and firth.com. All the other websites are minimal compared to these. I will drop childresntory.com today, shut it down. But this in itself still won't be enough."}, {"response": 3, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (12:05)", "body": "Terry, I'll do what I can to reduce the bandwidth use at Austen."}, {"response": 4, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (12:26)", "body": "That's not the problem, Ann. I've already paid to move the austen site and increase the bandwidth limits. You can alert me if you're approaching these limites via your administrative control panel, if it works. The problem I'm having with the Digi folks is that their monitoring tools don't work, so how can I know when I'm reaching their bandwidth limits."}, {"response": 5, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (12:32)", "body": "The way it now works for austen.com is that you'll have 500 mb of disk space and 15 gb of data transfer every month. My overage charges are $1/mb for disk space over this and .08/mb for overage above the bandwidth minimum. You *should* be able to see your bandwidth via your admin page, if you can't please let me know. If you can, and you're getting near the limit, let me know and I'll figure out a way to deal with it. This is much more bandwidth and diskspace than you've ever been allotted for austen.com in the past, I submitted this new plan today so it should go in to effect soon."}, {"response": 6, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (12:56)", "body": "Directory Kilobytes Used Percentage HTTP 121,475 47.24% LOGS 134,418 52.27% FTP 554 0.21% MAIL 519 0.2% OTHER 149 0.05% The above are the disk space stats for austen.com. When austen.com was part of the overall plan with all the other sites, this was a big problem. Now that it's on it's own plan, it's only using about half the allotted disk space. But I still an't get any *bandwidth* stats by going to the austen admin page. And that's not fair to us to charge us for more badnwidth when they don't give us the tools to monitor bandwith. The logs can be recycled and archived, but there's no rush on that."}, {"response": 7, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (13:10)", "body": "austen.com used 16,476,833 during the last period."}, {"response": 8, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (13:17)", "body": "So this is 1.6 gb of bandwidth over the 15 gb allotted and the rate would be .08 over this for the 1,476,833 or whatever that would work out to be."}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (13:54)", "body": "Ouch!! Anything I should be doing to help?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (14:24)", "body": "I've come up with a solution of sorts. I spoke to Ed Newman at Digi on the phone and he did point out the problem is mostly austen.com's bandwidth and the chat room. So he's going to set us up with a dedicated server where we can run our sites with a much higher bandwidth at a (hopefully) reasonable rate of around $200 a month. I'm pushing for 100 gb of data transfer and as much disk space as this server has hard drive space, probably about16 to 30 gb of space. But for this month and next month I'm going to need as much help as you can muster in the austen, drool and spring communities to pay for these overages. I know we just went through a pledge drive but this is another set of hurdles to jump over till we get a new plan in place. So, I encouurage everyone to sign up for PayPal and complete your sign ups if you haven't yet, and keep the checks coming in the mail and the online PayPal payments coming. Maybe we could put a note on austen.com and a pair of Paypal signup and donate links there like we have on spring.net, these could just be copied and pasted there. This has been a day of decision and negotiation and I think we're getting close to a solution. I appreciate everyone's help on this!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (14:51)", "body": "There is no chat room. What are they talking about?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (17:03)", "body": "ok, i'm confused. (surprised?) anyway, if we are not supposed to have lots of hits, then we can only limit the spring to us and no outsiders. and does the bandwidth thing also count the same user visiting several times a day? so, digihost isn't large enough to handle our business not to mention other websites they service. what if we had our very own servers? i know a guy here who runs his own internet server from his house and works full time outside the home. these may seem like silly questions, but how much is really involved in something like this, aside from the initial expense? and if it helps, you want me to take my website down? (i still have my geo account up and running)"}, {"response": 13, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (20:23)", "body": "Karen's right. As far as I know, there IS no chat room and hasn't been once for ages! They shut it down shortly after it went online, over a year ago now. I have moved one of my main bulletin boards off of Austen.com, so that should reduce traffic conciderably (perhaps as much as 25% of Austen traffic). Terry, What do you want me to do about montitoring the bandwidth? or swapping logs? I've never done much of that. (I think I've looked at the bandwidth page and didn't get it to show me any results.) And I don't even know where the logs are. ------ Also, could you explain PayPal to me one more time (Karen's tried a couple of times.) If someone just registers with the place, through the link you gave me a while ago, you get 5 bucks? They don't actually have to buy anything? THis is the include you gave me, does this one do it? (with \"{\" instead of \"<\"): {!-- Begin PayPal Logo --} {!-- {A HREF=\"https://secure.paypal.com/xclick/business=terry%40spring.net&item_name=Years+Membership+in+Spring.net&item_number=1&amount=25.00&no_intl=1&return=http%3A//www.spring.net/paypal\" target=\"_blank\"}{IMG SRC=\" http://images.paypal.com/images/x-click-but7.gif \" BORDER=\"0\" width=72 height=29 ALT=\"Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!\"}{/A} --} {!-- End PayPal Logo --}"}, {"response": 14, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (20:29)", "body": "LOGS 134,418 52.27% } YIKES!!! Can't we zap those or something? It's a bit rediculous that that log is taking up more than half of the space!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (20:48)", "body": "Gee, according to the austen.com admin page, we've used a whopping 1KB of bandwidth so far this month. Yeah, right!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (22:22)", "body": "Re: PayPal They can't just register; they have to complete the whole process, which involves (1) giving them your bank account number and then (2) reporting back to PayPal the two piddly little deposits they will make into them. Verification is necessary in order for Spring to receive the signup bonus. And, yes, the people don't have to actually transfer money. All they have to do is set up an account and verify it."}, {"response": 17, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (22:35)", "body": "Bank account #, or credit card #, or both?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (22:41)", "body": "I used a check debit Visa card for mine. Karen, did you ever get my $5 ? I know they were giving you a hard time about it!!!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (22:55)", "body": "Terry, did DigiHost change their billing practices? or was their a sudden jump in bandwidth use on the sites? (Looking over traffic on Austen, I wouldn't think the bandwidth would have gone up by much--except I've been trying to remove a lot of files and needed to download them first, as much as 100 MB worth. I should pretty much be done with that for now.)"}, {"response": 20, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (23:21)", "body": "Both, Ann. For the last seven months or more I've been able to talk them out of excessive charges. Kat had pretty much been in charge during this time and I could talk to their CEO pretty freely and get things done. They were very understanding and agreeable during this time. That changed in December, I was told that the \"CEO was no longer dealing with the day to day affairs of the business\" and that badnwidth charges and disk charges were to be strictly applied. And I could no longer retroactively \"stack\" my plans to avoid excessive charges. On their side, Ed Newman, the Day to Day Operations Manager realized that they were losing money as a business and they had to act fast to bill their customers for every penny they could. This was great for Digihost. But for us it has been like Pearl Harbor Day. It came swiftly and uncompassionately. They aren't cutting even an inch of slack to their customers where before they would bend over backwards to help us. And my numerous calls and emails to the CEO, David Geier, have been unanswered. He is now barricaded by a jealous front line that denies access to him. I feel like Kat likes her customers and wants to help them like she always has, but her hands are tied by middle management. Ed Newman has become the \"enforcer\" and I have no idea how upper management feels about this, as they are shielded from us. They are blaming the austen chat room for the bamdwidth and I am trying to head off another set of high charges next month. (continued)"}, {"response": 21, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (23:24)", "body": "The biggest problem, as I have stated, is that their bandwidth measuring tools simply aren't working and, as Ed Newman say, \"they're working on fixing it\". And he says to call them to get them to generate this information. The problem for me is that I work during the day when they're open and I can't really spend a lot of time with them on the phone having them manually extract this information and they don't respond to emails very well. But that's our only option right now. Ann, feel free to call them on the 800 number if you want to monitor this while they get their act together. With your permission, I will designate you as the official ambassador and contact person for austen.com."}, {"response": 22, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (23:31)", "body": "There is a possible cure for all this. At one time this whole system ran off dedicated servers. Three or four in fact. These were machines which I built and maintained. The problem was maintaining them because they were old 486 boxes with very little disk spaces. But I scratched and clawed my way along and kept them running for years. Now we're in a new era where machines our much faster, disks are cheap and it's possible to have low cost on site maintenance on hosting company built systems. So Ed Newman is devisiing a plan where we can put all our websites on a single server with much higher bandwidth and which we would have total control. It would be system admin work but we would be masters of our own destiny. But we would have to fix things that broke more often ourselves. We're talking all this over now. And I'm trying to come up with the best solution to keep all these communities growing and to make it possible to grow more communities of interest in the future. It would help if more folks entered in to this dialog with their thoughts and ideas."}, {"response": 23, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 12, 2001 (23:50)", "body": "I'm in the chat room now and I see that it's not even running on austen.com, what date was it moved to the other site?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (08:52)", "body": "The chatroom on austen.com was closed down by Digihost a long long time ago. They were using other chatrooms at Bravenet and Earthlink and many places, before this one was set up very recently. Ann could probably give you an exact date, but the austen.com chatroom has been shut down for over a year because as Digihost said, \"it was illegal.\" (Ann) Bank account #, or credit card #, or both? Bank account # (A person can send money to anyone by charging it to a credit card, but that does not mean they have set up an account at PayPal.) (Marcia) did you ever get my $5 ? No. They said their rules changed (on whatever date) so that personal accounts didn't get the referral bonus. Because your registration wasn't completed by then, I wasn't going to get it."}, {"response": 25, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (09:07)", "body": "...and Ann, you might want to delete all the posts about the person who used someone else's name. All that venting. Must have given the troll a chuckle."}, {"response": 26, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (09:10)", "body": "I guess the $5 referral bonus *was* too good to be true. I wonder if that applies to the spring's $5 referral bonus as well? I'll have to check on this. It sounds like I still need to at least try and talk to the CEO if the chat room has been closed. I wonder how much bandwidth a chatroom uses and what it cost to run it on one of these other chatroom providers? Are they free?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (09:11)", "body": "Ooops, slippage with KarenR."}, {"response": 28, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (09:30)", "body": "I guess the $5 referral bonus *was* too good to be true. Terry, if you have set up a business account, then you get the signup bonuses. The Austen.com community did not like those other chatroom providers, which is why this new one has been set up by one of their community participants. He is footing the bill. My guess is that Digihost is calling the Tea Room (which Ann just moved off of austen.com yesterday) or what resided at: http://www.austen.com/babble/bindex.cgi the chatroom. It gets a lot of action, but is only a message board. With all these components of austen.com being moved to other host sites, what is the point to having any of it there? If they leave, you lose THE major source of ongoing funding."}, {"response": 29, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (10:13)", "body": "That's the point. And I'm working on solving that by moving to a dedicated host where we can have everything on the same server. I have already upgraded our plan for more bandwidth and disk space and am negotiating for a dedicated server. I have set up a PayPal business account, so I am getting these bonuses. I'll check the PayPal log to make sure."}, {"response": 30, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (13:16)", "body": "Whoa!! So does this mean that you'll have to do all the sys adm work, Terry? If the server goes down, so do all of us and we'd have to rely on you to bring it back up? In addition, Digihost would do normal, ongoing maintenance and perform upgrades to its own servers. Who is going to do that for this dedicated server? Let's not be rash here."}, {"response": 31, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (14:04)", "body": "I think we're moving toward a hybrid plan where they do some of the stuff and I have ability to do sysadmin work also. They would maintain the server. We won't go ahead with this without a great deal of thought and dicussion rigthfirsfirst away and we'll see how that works out first. I promise not make any rash moves!"}, {"response": 32, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (16:28)", "body": "As a member at large, may I say that I have been v. satisfied with Digihost service. I hope you can get the financial admin stuff ironed out, and keep them on the technical side."}, {"response": 33, "author": "Ann", "date": "Sat, Jan 13, 2001 (22:17)", "body": "Very shortly after moving to DigiHost (like within a month), they shut our chat room down, kaput, finito. We spent about a year on commercial chat services (ATT, Bravenet, etc.) trying to find a new home, before a philanthropic fellow on our site set up one for us. (It's with the hosting company http://readyhosting.com , which you might want to look at: $99/year + unlimited bandwidth + 500MB space + they pay for domain registration (usually a $35/year cost). They have a $50 first time set up fee, which might be waved for domain transfers.) ------ Karen might be right that they are referring to \"The Tea Room\", which is a CGI bulletin board, not a chat room, http://www.TheDWG.com/babble/bindex.cgi . This was running on the Austen.com servers until yesterday, when I moved it to my www.TheDWG.com account, also with ReadyHosting. This leaves the DWG board as the main drag from Austen.com on the Spring servers (we have 3 other boards which get small to minimal traffic). I think the Tea Room Board gets a bit less usage than the DWG board, but without tracking and monitoring abilities, I have no way of knowing for certain! Either way, having the Tea Room and the DWG on different servers with different hosting companies should be beneficial for the Spring. ---------- With all these components of austen.com being moved to other host sites, what is the point to having any of it there? So far I've only moved some of the older stories in the archives (about 100 MB worth--it's a big archives, well over 1,000 stories--though not all of that has been deleted from Austen.com yet) and I've moved one of the two large message boards. I do kind of like the idea of splitting the site between two hosting companies. It seems to me like insurance, in case one of them goes down or belly-up. We've always maintained an emergency board at InsideTheWeb for that purpose. Also, by splitting the site up, we will lessen the strain on any one computer or host. It will cost me only $99/year to run www.TheDWG.com, and after the first two years, that will include the $35 domain registration fee (for a net of $64/year.) That's a great price and I figured it was worth it. ------ With your permission, I will designate you as the official ambassador and contact person for austen.com. I might contact them to find out what is going on, but I don't know if I want to be an official contact. For one thing, I only have one phone line which is tied up with my computer most of the day. For another thing, I hate telephones and loathe making calls--to the point where I procrastinate until there is no point in calling at all. (I was never the stereotypical teenage girl who hung on the phone for hours. Yick!) I'm a bad person to delegate the phone work to."}, {"response": 34, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jan 14, 2001 (11:03)", "body": "I don't want you to be a phone jockey, Ann, I just wanted to have it so you could talk to our hosts when you need to. With the move to the new Plan, disk space should not be a problem. And I can negotiate more bandwidth. I'd like to compare what we're getting now with austen.com with what we could get with another host, especially one that doesn't charge for extra bandwidth. I'll take a look at readyhosting today."}, {"response": 35, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Jan 14, 2001 (11:05)", "body": "Readyhosting, it turns out, is Windows 2000 hosting. It might be tough to run some scripts and software."}, {"response": 36, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Jan 15, 2001 (09:13)", "body": "Here are some other options I'm looking at, if anyone else wants to review these and give me their opinions, I'd love more input. http://webservices.cnet.com/html/aisles/Most_Popular_-_Dedicated_Servers.asp"}, {"response": 37, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (15:14)", "body": "Terry, can you get a hold of any bandwidth data for Austen over the last week or two? I've been wondering how much the drop has been since I moved part of the site to a different ISP on the 12th."}, {"response": 38, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (18:08)", "body": "I'll see what I can dig up. Of course now austen.com has expanded limites on badnwidth and disk space since I \"upgraded\" our plan."}, {"response": 39, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (18:13)", "body": "HTTP 1/01 - 1/26: 0 KB 30 Day Total: 1,041,607 KB FTP 1/01 - 1/26: 0 KB 30 Day Total: 807 KB POP-3 1/01 - 1/26: 0 KB 30 Day Total: 1,767 KB SMTP 1/01 - 1/26: 0 KB 30 Day Total: 0 KB TELNET 1/01 - 1/26: 0 KB 30 Day Total: 0 KB OTHER 1/01 - 1/26: 0 KB 30 Day Total: 295 KB We're no where near our limit of 15 gbs!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (18:14)", "body": "Successful requests: 40,082 Average successful requests per day: 40,108 Successful requests for pages: 4,684 Average successful requests for pages per day: 4,686 Failed requests: 503 Redirected requests: 79 Distinct files requested: 1,536 Corrupt logfile lines: 1 Data transferred: 368,324 kbytes Average data transferred per day: 368,580 kbytes More austen.com stats."}, {"response": 41, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (18:16)", "body": "Directory Kilobytes Used Percentage HTTP 129,412 47.34% LOGS 141,466 51.75% FTP 554 0.2% MAIL 1,760 0.64% OTHER 168 0.06% Space Kilobytes Percentage USED 273,360 54.67% FREE 226,640 45.32% TOTAL 500,000 100%"}, {"response": 42, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (18:23)", "body": "Really, no worries about bandwidth and diskspace now, last month was the killer for me financially and I'm still trying to recover."}, {"response": 43, "author": "Ann", "date": "Fri, Jan 26, 2001 (21:58)", "body": "Looks like the move of one of our boards cut bandwidth by 400-500MB. Good :)"}, {"response": 44, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Feb 9, 2001 (13:54)", "body": "Having Webtrends on both spring.net and austen.com will give us a much better handle on our bandwidth and visitor trends. And it's open to anyone. http://www.spring.net/_webtrends http://www.austen.com/_webtrends porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 8, "subject": "The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics", "response_count": 570, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (12:05)", "body": "Perhaps this topic will be a place to respond to all the email queries about \"why is this free?\" and \"what can I do to help?\" and other questions along a similar thread. The Spring is building some contract websites. One that is currently under construction is http://www.childrenstory.com I am billing a customer for this website. The revenue will go to replace a badly needed hard drive for one of our servers, make upgrades, and pay our kindly bandwidth provider. So, those of you with website contruction skills, this is something very specific and concrete you can do to help support the Spring and keep it going. You can help build this site, which is going to have a Real Audio server and will provide children with stories in written and spoken form. You can help directly by writing html code (I'll give you access) or you can just make suggestions. I'm going to open a new conference called 'projects' and this will be one of the first topics and we can carry a discussion of how to build and improve this site there. Another website under construction to look at would be: http://www.tvpc.com Let me know!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (12:10)", "body": "A pointer to a new conference: poetry. It just started this morning. I sent out a few invitations. If you have that poem hidden away in the bottom of that sock drawer, type it out and post it. Any poets or poetry lovers here?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "churchh", "date": "Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (19:38)", "body": "Hey Terry, you can link to or kipe my HTML-ization of George MacDonald's The Light Princess , at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/lprincss.html"}, {"response": 4, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (20:26)", "body": "Oh, HC - do you have any more MacDonald up your electronic sleeve?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "churchh", "date": "Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (20:55)", "body": "I also converted The Day Boy and the Night Girl (The Romance of Photogen and Nycteris) to HTML, but that was for the CCEL people, and it's on their web-site (you can find it through the CMU on-line books page, or I think there might be a lin k to it at the end of the text of the Light Princess )."}, {"response": 6, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (00:57)", "body": "Who are CCEL? [something] Children's Electronic Literature, perhaps? Do you happen to have a link handy for CMU on-line books?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "churchh", "date": "Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (07:35)", "body": "\"Christian Classics Ethereal Library\", I think... I'm too lazy to look up the CMU on-line books URL right now, but there's a link to it from the Jane Austen info page at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeinfo.html"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (13:39)", "body": "I looked at the Jane Austen info page and it's terrific. I got into reading some of Jane Austen's works and I'll be coming back for more visits. What I'd like to do is set up a team of folks who have shell access to this site and who are able to work in various websites of their own and on the projects that I'm developing to help support this conferencing system. Has anyone visited the projects conference yet? I'm on Microsoft Netmeeting all day today so if anyone wants to \"talk\" please drop by. I'm on the uls1.microsoft.com server. You need to have NetMeeting software, which is free from Microsofts site."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 2, 1996 (09:53)", "body": "Poor mixu! He's posting all alone in the books conference about his favorite books and putting out a mystery quote for folks to guess. Is anyone up to giving him a bit of company in the 'books' conference? http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/books/all/"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (21:04)", "body": "Check out the interesting comments on community in topic 4 of the community conference and respond, if you care to."}, {"response": 11, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (21:25)", "body": "Terry, are you sure that you mean topic 4? That is the same (linked) topic as the \"ramble\" topic (with a different topic number) here. We don't have to \"go there\" to see it."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (21:50)", "body": "Ooops, no it is the last topic added I believe. What other conferences on the Spring have folks here in Austen been visiting? Any suggestions for new topics elsewhere on the Spring?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (21:54)", "body": "It's topic 5 in community actually."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (23:24)", "body": "If you want to read some very eloquent stuff: Topic 14 of 14 [music]: Players you have met Response 21 of 21: drymartini (drymartini) * Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (21:27) * 3 lines One of my all-time favorite interviews. Carlos Montoya, playing for a college crowd at Alfred, NY. Small, very dapper guy in this elegant tux, with a white hanky in his breat pocket, folded just so.... [much more]"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (14:42)", "body": "We have got permission from ronks@well.com to reprint his celebrated tech news comments, starting today. Here's a sample: Scientific American has an interesting article in its January 1997 issue about developments in fiber-optic bandwidth and their implications for the telephone industry. Companies including AT&T, Fujitsu, and Nippon T&T have already used a single optical fiber to transmit data over \"many kilometers\" in excess of a trillion bits per second. NEC has gone them one better by using wave division multiplexing to create multiple channels transmitting at different wavelengths; with WDM they sent 132 channels, each carrying 20 billion bits per second, over a single optical fiber. While these \"hero experiments\" are not yet ready for commercial deployment, they seem to demonstrate big changes in store: glass cable is much cheaper than copper, and WDM is said to eliminate both the need for expensive boosters along the path to clean up the signals periodically and for a separate laser on each channel. As the cost of providing humungous bandwidth plummets, the phone companies' revenue and even their monopoly status could be in jeopardy. A rogue spokesman at British Telecom says technology will make \"bandwidth free and distance irrelevant.\" The director of H-P's labs says phone companies will become digital utilities something like the water or the power company, and an independent analyst estimates \"telephone service should cost about three cents a month.\" Check out topic 2 in techbusiness."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (09:29)", "body": "The Spring was down for the past hour. I apologize to Myretta, Henry and others that may have been trying to access it. I'm going through the log and emailing folks that have tried to access it and letting them know that it's back up. I messed it up this morning trying to reconfigure and restart the logs. If you're interested in the technical details of what I did you can read the sordid details in the web conference. Sorry folks, I'm not happy about being down for an hour this morning."}, {"response": 17, "author": "Donna", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (09:42)", "body": "That is OK Terry it is working fine now."}, {"response": 18, "author": "tedchong", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:23)", "body": "Thanks Terry, happy new year 1997 (it's 1997 already here in Singapore)"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:23)", "body": "On a cheerier note, Paul McCartney is now Sir Paul McCartney And you can read all the details in the new Sir Paul McCartney topic in the music conference. Please do my a favor. Do a search on Paul McCartney and find a neat website about Paul McCartney, then email the webmaster or whatever email address is listed on their website and ask them to please put a link on their page to our Paul McCartney discussion group. Tell them this is the link to add: http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/public/read/music/16 Let's see if we can honor Paul in this way! Thanks."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:29)", "body": "I'm encouraging folks to do this same kind of thing all over the Spring. If you have a favorite topic, do a search for websites about it and then email the person in charge there to put in a link to the Spring. Just copy the link from your browser window and sub the word public for the word restricted. (test it) Beep beep beep beep yeeeahhh!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (12:44)", "body": "The Spring was down for the past hour. I apologize to Myretta, Henry and others that may have been trying to access it No apology necessary Terry. Been there, done that. All's well, they say, that ends well."}, {"response": 22, "author": "elder", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (14:30)", "body": "Terry -- thanks for getting things back together so quickly. I did try to get on this am, and kept getting called an \"Unprivileged User\"!! I was afraid it was something wrong w/ my system, and I am much relieved to see that all is again well. Have a Happy!"}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (17:07)", "body": "We're back. And I just got back from installing another server on our network. So we even have more ooooomph now."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (04:38)", "body": "The austen conference is featured today on the Spring's front page. Along with a revision of the whole page. Take a trip through the past in the archives. The new golf site is my sisters (she lives in the SF Bay area)."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (15:25)", "body": "The restaurants conference has a much bigger menu of topics and a place to talk about the best restaurant in your town and the best restaurant in the world. Any ideas?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "churchh", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (16:56)", "body": "Amy, this has started up just recently -- http://www.islandmm.com/islandmm/cgi-bin/bbs.pl?action=bbs&mbaction=msgs&item=alice"}, {"response": 27, "author": "churchh", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (17:04)", "body": "Amy, this has started up just recently -- http://www.islandmm.com/islandmm/cgi-bin/bbs.pl?action=bbs&mbaction=msgs&item=alice"}, {"response": 28, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (17:53)", "body": "That board looks familiar."}, {"response": 29, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Sun, Feb 2, 1997 (11:24)", "body": "That board looks familiar. Indeed."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 7, 1997 (23:23)", "body": "You'll find the rest of this poem in the poetry conference. This is just a taste. Flowing Like Spring Waters Tonight is the night, my dear friend. The feeling has ripened inside for months... Every time you and I were together Laughing, chatting, and rambling endlessly much more in the poetry conference --------->"}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (21:45)", "body": "There's a new conference called 'unix' and I posted quite a few things in the Internet and Web conferences. You'll find out about the seven new domains that are going to be on the Internet. This will shake things up for sure. Maybe we should get austen.art? Or eeyieeyi.io? Or spring.firm? Things are going to get very interesting. You have to read the whole thing."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (21:47)", "body": "What are you watching on tv right now? That's a new topic in the tv conference. Have fun with this one."}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (21:57)", "body": "In the sports conference, news of a womens' sports site that has been months in the making. Topic 39 on sports web sites ------------ go there -------------->"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 9, 1997 (22:08)", "body": "Like figure skating on ice? Then you'll like the new figure skating topic in sports which has all the latest schedules of ice skating events on tv. And there is a packers joke there too."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 6, 1998 (18:15)", "body": "Very Highly Recommended dept: Gerard Van der Leun, boswell@well.com, has an excellent cookbook recipe for a successful virtual community in the virtual community conference. http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/public/read/vc/12"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 9, 1998 (07:29)", "body": "Two new Michigan virtual communities are the subject of new topics in the vc or virtual community conference: grex and m-net."}, {"response": 37, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Feb 9, 1998 (20:04)", "body": "I am trying to get an alternative medicine topic off the ground in the health conference. Even if you don't take vitamins and think acupuncture is a bunch of hooey, check it out and say so."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 13, 1998 (08:55)", "body": "I'd like to point out some topics getting activity in the travel conference: 16 15 dive travel with Divine Spark 17 3 India 18 4 Micronesia and the Pacific region 19 3 Fiji There is a fascinating tale of travel to India and some comments from some islanders themselves in topics 18 and 19. Have you traveled any places that we could start a new topic about?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (10:30)", "body": "How about Germany, where I'm from? (Specifically Swabia)"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (16:56)", "body": "Swabia?"}, {"response": 42, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (17:30)", "body": "uh huh. that would be the southern country where i'm from. the city is Stuttgart. Hi wer!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (20:28)", "body": "Sure start a topic!"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (19:19)", "body": "I put some procative posts in the Internet conference today in a new topic. Something called Cyberwar: The Information Revolution and Warfare. It turns out, for the last half century, the US has been intercepting and decrypting the top secret documents of most of the world's governments. It's topic 22."}, {"response": 45, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (21:46)", "body": "Cool! What will we Yanks think up next?! :-)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (21:53)", "body": "Hmm...just occured to me that this topic and \"What's hot on the Spring?\" rather overlap with each other. Perhaps one or the other should be frozen?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (10:42)", "body": "dunno, wer, maybe we can talk the higher powers into creating a conference just for babbling-we'd never have to leave!!"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (12:47)", "body": "Good idea Mike, which one should I freeze. Anyone object?"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (13:05)", "body": "In music, topic 44 is Van Morrison - the Man with news of an upcoming Van and Dylan tour. About time to pay some tribute to Van Morrison. Gotta get me that Astral Weeks CD."}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (13:07)", "body": "Done deal on killing the redundant topics, this is now spring pointer to other topic world headquarters."}, {"response": 53, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (18:32)", "body": "wait, what was 16 and 19?? terry, didja catch my hint for a blabbing conference? *grin*"}, {"response": 55, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 1, 1998 (08:48)", "body": "I got the hint, I'll hold hearings for more comment."}, {"response": 56, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 1, 1998 (11:48)", "body": "thanks *smile*"}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 2, 1998 (01:23)", "body": "What's hot, hot, hot. News. There's now a whole news conference. Go there and find out stuff you should know (maybe), talk about your Spring anniversary, discuss spam, enter your offsite email address if you care to do so, request favors, talk about springeurs who have hit the big time or made the news, pat yourself on the back, and find out about places to go and things to do."}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 2, 1998 (01:56)", "body": "In the media conference, bet you didn't know we had one, there's a new topic on the Drudge Report. My friend Judith Lewis of the LA Weekly is just down the streeet from Matt Drudge and has been known to pay him a visit every so often. Go to media and get in on this drudgery."}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 2, 1998 (02:14)", "body": "And also something about our homeboys. Guess where?"}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 2, 1998 (03:45)", "body": "Let's rewind to June 22, 1995 and pick up where we left off. Nike was there. So was Gena. GenX is back!!!!!! Here's the scoop: 1 4 genx conference bidness 2 1 genXer intros 3 0 drugs 4 1 sex or . . . 5 1 Embarassing Things I Did in the '80s 6 1 First jobs from hell and beyond ... and a total of 64 topics to come Melissa Marie, I still love you."}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 2, 1998 (03:54)", "body": "The Spring's original topic list from 1995: http://www.spring.com:/~dbii/forum/confs/confs.html"}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (06:06)", "body": "Some very good thoughts on the CFP conference in the last topic in our cfp conference: From: Lorrie Faith Cranor [For the past five years I have written a Computers, Freedom and Privacy conference report (see the archive at=20 http://www.research.att.com/~lorrie/pubs/cfp.html) . This year, turned the job over to Danielle Gallo, an undergraduate student who has been working with me. Feel free to forward this report. -- Lorrie Cranor] Danielle Gallo's CFP98 Conference Report Computers, Freedom and Privacy '98 was held February 18-20 at the Austin, Texas Hyatt Regency Hotel. Although there have been eight in total, this is the first CFP I attended. The program featured daily single-track sessions, lunch breakout sessions, and several concurrent tutorials. . . . contines with her extensive observations. A good read! Recommended."}, {"response": 63, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (06:14)", "body": "Letter to me and Mike: Sounds like a good trade to me. I am doing a CGI project for the Exploratorium in San Francisco on a volunteer basis and that is why I need the test space. I don't have years of experience doing this, but there are some prewritten CGI libraries available that allow a developer to write a CGI script that will put up the HTML form and collect the data. At this point I would have to say that I could probably write the part that put up the HTML and collected the data. So, in that regard, let me take a stab at what I think you might mean. Name: Email: What you do in real life: Favorite sites on the web: Other interests, and miscellaneous biographical information: Other or different fields that you have in mind: A couple of areas that I am going to have to do some research on, or get ideas about: If there are variables that I can access for the visitor's email address, or am I going to have to make them enter it by hand. How to link the information I collect to the visitor's alias. Maybe the people at the Well would be willing to part with some secrets in that regard. Anyway, I think it would be fun to be involved in writing the CGI script for this, and if the library I mentioned is loaded, or could be loaded, on the server, I don't think it would be too much work to get to the point of having the form displayed and collecting the information. Let me know what fields and other form elements you think should be in there. I will follow up with some questions for Terry. Regards, Bill"}, {"response": 64, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (09:10)", "body": "Allie McBeal, a new topic in the tv confernce (and also 'babes'). See, there's this tv show called Ally McBeal. And it features three *hot babes*. That little bit of sexual subconscious out of the way, let me say it's a very funny show. It's a great show, I'll go even further. It's about a law firm. And Allie's ex lover just happens to be a member of the firm and he's married to a gal that has a jaw and blonde hair that Allie doesn't have. Billy, the ex lover of Allie, has mixed emotions And Allie has become friends with Billy's wife. We're talking age ranges of 25-28 here, folks. My theory is that this is a guy type show, and that women will find it embarassing. I don't think it will end up on the feminist top ten listing of tv shows, maybe the bottom ten. The women are too cute and too bimboish at times. And the women aren't the aggressive, free wheeling Marcia Clark types, they're quite timid usually. But how can you not like a show whose lead actress is *** Calista Flockhart *** That name just does it for me. I would love to have a girlfriend like her just so I could introduce her to people. Uh, I'd like you to meet my girlfriend, *Calista Flockhart*. Dream, dream. I'll have more to say about Allie McBeal. It's my favorite tv show. I hope others will join me in this quaint little discussion."}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (09:15)", "body": "Jordan's up to bat, does that mean Lewinsky's in the on deck circle. Politics, in the topic on the Clinton Presidency. Hey, it's great to see the new conferences, news and genx, off to such a roaring start! I have a lot more surprises in store in both conferences in the way of stome startling new topics. Stay tuned."}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (09:18)", "body": "There's an *awesome* array of new material in the cfp conference. Warning, this is heady stuff, the legal and moral consequences of today's cyberspace mileau and the implications for our future freedom, privacy and lives are freely discussed. It's a stretch to get past the gate, but the effort may be worth your time. Danielle's observations are far reaching and comprehensive in her roundup of the confernce. Danielle Gallo, on CFP98. j cfp."}, {"response": 67, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (09:29)", "body": "The most underutilized, ready for prime time conference on the Spring that has potential for future stardom: cultures Hear me now, or hear me later. Pump it up!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (20:47)", "body": "Dad!!!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Mar 5, 1998 (01:49)", "body": "Is there something you want to share with us, Terry??"}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 5, 1998 (03:15)", "body": "You mean I haven't been forthcoming, autumn?"}, {"response": 72, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 7, 1998 (16:36)", "body": "ok, terry (aka wer's dad)..... Hi Autumn!"}, {"response": 73, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Mar 7, 1998 (22:17)", "body": "Heya, Wolfie, havin' a good weekend? :-) Mine has been soooo relaxing...."}, {"response": 74, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 8, 1998 (15:47)", "body": "not really, kinda stressin', been working on my site and trying to figure out what the deal is with this browser....... got the baby girl's ears pierced yesterday, she did soooo good. the part she can't handle is the cleaning and turning the posts, but today it is going much better and she's doing it for herself. am very proud of her. the whole thing was her decision, told her she didn't have to if she didn't want to, but she was gung ho!"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 9, 1998 (12:16)", "body": "Good coverage by Gary Chapman of the Bruce Sterling speech in the cfp conference. j cfp"}, {"response": 76, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (10:58)", "body": "My older daughter came to me yesterday asking for pierced ears for her birthday (she'll be 6). Her dad said age 15, I said 10, so it'll probably be next year! How old is your little girl?"}, {"response": 77, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (19:46)", "body": "4, she'll be 5 next month (didn't we have that conversation before?) didn't get mine done til i was 16 cuz the big d said heck no. we let her think about it for a while and i carefully explained the whole thing, my big thing was letting her make up her own mind, you know?"}, {"response": 78, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (14:44)", "body": "yeah, but mine also wants to be bald (she literally cries about wanting to have her head shaved), black (which I can do nothing about) and handicapped (which I'm tempted to do something about--just kidding!) So giving her too much control is definitely o ut of the question. Oh, she also wants me to get a job so she can go to day care (just tear out my heart, I tell her!)"}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (14:47)", "body": "Babe of the week in babes. I know, we pale next to drool."}, {"response": 80, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (18:40)", "body": "what is this an invite? Autumn, my daughter hasn't gone that far yet! she wants me to tell my boss i'm not coming back so i can be with her! (she's mama's for sure)"}, {"response": 81, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (17:49)", "body": "New topics in the news conference: Asteroid! WASHINGTON (AP) -- It's not time to panic, but Earthlings need to keep an eye on a mile-wide asteroid that will zip very close to the Earth in 30 years and could even smash into the planet, causing widespread destruction, astronomers say. Is it time to book that flight to Mars or is this a bunch of hype? Discuss among yourselves in the news conference topic called Asteroid!"}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (17:54)", "body": "That will be the year 2028 in case you need to mark your calendars. It will be 1:30 on a Thursday morning. October 26, 2028. Thursday. 1:30 am. Got that? Did you have anything planned for that day?"}, {"response": 83, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (22:22)", "body": "wait.....do dayrunners plan that far in advance? (anyway, it's gonna be a near miss by about 600,000 miles)"}, {"response": 84, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (23:04)", "body": "I was very concerned about this when I saw it on the news. As a student of geophysics, and the science of major collisions, if this thing hits it's going to be The Big One. For the religious ones amongst you (including me), it's time to get your on your knees =)"}, {"response": 85, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (23:07)", "body": "hey, it's going to MISS US......"}, {"response": 86, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (12:26)", "body": "Maybe. It will be four months till they have accurate calculations. But even if was aimed dead center at Manhattan, they'd turn it into a media circus and attach rockets to it and turn it into a theme park and steer it into a different orbit. And the commercials would dwarf what it costs to put an ad on the superbowl."}, {"response": 87, "author": "drool", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (17:46)", "body": "I wondering Terry what did you mean you pale next to drool? I'm chewing my nails waiting for the day my son will be born. So please you guys don't scare me so that I start chewing my fingers... O.K. thanks, drool"}, {"response": 88, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (17:56)", "body": "I meant drool the conference!!! ha!"}, {"response": 89, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (03:08)", "body": "A certain Gerard van der Leun, boswell, shows up doubting the Spring will make it, and giving it poor grades. He posts in the Spring's most infrequently utilized Internet conference."}, {"response": 90, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (17:21)", "body": "A photography topic is now in the art conference. I talk about some findings I got re: 3d photography."}, {"response": 91, "author": "drool", "date": "Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (19:32)", "body": "terry, theres a confrencecalled drool? really? How do I get there from here? I am sorry if I offended you or anything. drool, the person"}, {"response": 92, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (07:30)", "body": "There's a link to it from our main http://www.spring.net page. Wow, just getting used to that dot net!"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (09:09)", "body": "I will be giving a live talk via realaudio at http://www.spring.net today and call ins will be accepted (512.303.4000), it will be a live internet \"talk show\"."}, {"response": 94, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (12:19)", "body": "Rush Limbaugh has come out in favor of legalization of marijuana. Full details in the Rush Room topic in the radio conference. This is not a joke, he did come out in favor of legalization. It happened March 12 10:40 am pst. Three times!"}, {"response": 95, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (14:51)", "body": "wasn't limbaugh one of the bastards that so unmercifully tormented clinton's first surgeon-general (forget her name) for basically saying that we should consider decriminalization of some drugs?"}, {"response": 96, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:18)", "body": "I'll guess Jocelyn Elders, if we're talking about the \"pro-decriminalization/pro-masturbation\" surgeon general."}, {"response": 97, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:32)", "body": "what elders (thank you) said was that it (decriminalization) was an issue that merited discussion... she's in good company with that view... re: masturbation, don't think it really means a tinker's damn what her opinion is, one way or the other... (and regardless of one's view, really must ask one's self where republicans would be, without it?...(especially rush)... they're certainly repressed enough, as it is)..."}, {"response": 98, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:35)", "body": "(hi autumn)"}, {"response": 99, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:37)", "body": "Just mentioned that, because she'll forever be remembered for her ideas on masturbation rather than decriminalization..."}, {"response": 100, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (18:35)", "body": "We'll be going live with our talk show again in an hour."}, {"response": 101, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (07:48)", "body": "Right here on the Spring we had an event that shocked even the hoary old WELL. Sunday, we all went live and really \"met\" one another for the first time, I only wish I had pumped it up more on the spring. Next Sunday we'll do it again. It was a gas, gas, gas. See Mikes topic 26 in this conference. What should we call this? Sunday Night Live on the Spring?"}, {"response": 102, "author": "drool", "date": "Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (18:08)", "body": "About the canabis thing out of the 265 chemicals in tobbaco I think 80 of them cause cancer. out of the 18 chemicals in pot none are known too cause cancer... also a hemp plant produces forty percent more wood products than the trees being cut down now. I wouldn't mind being able to smoke my coffee table occasionally. hahahah DROOL,"}, {"response": 103, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (09:41)", "body": "*smile*"}, {"response": 104, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (09:59)", "body": "Yeah, cannabis is great apart from the mind-threatening hallucinations and permanent psychological disturbances (e.g. Schizophrenia)"}, {"response": 105, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (11:45)", "body": "Wow, that explains a lot...."}, {"response": 106, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (17:21)", "body": "aha!"}, {"response": 107, "author": "drool", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (18:49)", "body": "Where in the world did you hear that pot causes schizt. I know that it can stunt your emotional growth if you start at a young age. I think you've been watching to many of those old anti-pot movies. Did you know thatthe gov. did a test were they gave a mentally disturb man some L.S.D and twelve hours later {when he came down} he was no longer clasified as mentally disturbed. If you ever get to the library of congress you should look up these facts. Knowlege Is Power. {or at least understanding..} I do not condone the use of L.S.D. {at least not the street stuff, never know whats in that crap} Remember the gov. has all of the best drugs. And clinton did inhale... And probly still does. Drool"}, {"response": 108, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (19:13)", "body": "read it in a newspaper article, quoting some recent research at a UK university. I'll look it up again and post it for you"}, {"response": 109, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (19:23)", "body": "this is an extract, since the article is about 500 words -- BEGIN QUOTE \"We do not yet know enough about its causes to say how schizophrenia can be prevented, but one specific factor is important: drug use.\" SANE continues by pointing out that cannabis can cause ahllucinations and paranoid delusions similar to those found in schizophrenia. The psychotic effects induced by these drugs do not always clear up readily, and there is some evidence that they may tr igger a prolonged schizophrenic illness. In addition, such drugs can cause a relapse in an established illness. Most doctors have harrowing stories of psychotic breakdown after a young person has been exposed to cannabis. Detailed research is scant, although a study of the role of cannabis in precipitating schizophrenia in Swedish men who had undertaken national s ervice seemed tod demonstrate a clear link. It is usually considered unlikely that smoking cannabis could be a primary cause of schizophrenia, but likely that it could be a factor in the condition's development in those who are unfortunate enough to have a genetic susceptibility. ... Apart from its intoxicating effects and any persistent damage to the psyche, cannabis may also cause acute anxiety or a panic reaction, particularly if the plant has been bred to give a high yield of cannabinoids, a type of cannabis referred to as \"skunk\" . Panic attacks may be treated with benzodiazepines, acute psychotic reactions with neuroleptic drugs. Smoking cannabis mixed with tobacco combines the delterious effects of both plants on the air passages. The ill effects of cannabis are not confied to the brain and lungs. it also causes impotence in men, reduces the sperm count and alters the reproductive hormonal systems. babies born to cannabis-smoking mothers are smaller than average, and feed and set tle less well. -- END QUOTE Dr Thomas Stuttaford, The Times (Tuesday, 17 March, 1998)"}, {"response": 110, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (20:39)", "body": "Helen Huth died crossing the bridge over the river in Cape Girardeau Missouri. She was a college student. I loved her and I loved her poems. I got a batch of her poetry in the mail today from Merle Busch, who is trying to dig up some more of her work, about 150 poems, which we are praying are not lost forever. What a loss for the world, that she died so young and didn't get to keep writing these poems and that we only have a few scraps from her prolific output. Reading these today, tears came to my eyes, and I had to go for a long walk in the woods."}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (20:43)", "body": "A few of the ones I got are posted in the poetry conference. In a topic called Helen Huths poems."}, {"response": 112, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (21:35)", "body": "forgive me Paul, I do not know of the woman you speak... but I will wander over to 'poetry' and see what I can discover."}, {"response": 113, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (22:44)", "body": "I think you will discover some magic."}, {"response": 114, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (08:08)", "body": "Today at 1:55 is the start of Spring! We should have an online cyberparty! It's also this Spring's anniversary."}, {"response": 116, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (09:42)", "body": "WooWoo!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (11:18)", "body": "Our fourth anniversary, since we officially went live on the web on the exact beginning of Spring four years ago. And this is the tenth anniversary of the Spring as an organization which started on this date in 1988. We'll be live on the web at 1:55 pm today CST if anyone wants to call in or post something (I'll read it aloud via our realaudio server)."}, {"response": 118, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (13:48)", "body": "boing, boing--happy spring!"}, {"response": 119, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (05:47)", "body": "A new topic, number 260 has been started to discuss the potential for bring the show \"My Solitary Elegance\" to Austin. from Karen Hannum (sunflower@well.com): A friend of mine from England is bringing her show on Jane Austen, \"My Solitary Elegance\", to the US for a very limited run. It has enjoyed a great deal of success in England and Scotland including being featured on BBC2. It will be performed in San Franciso from October 2nd-5th at the Jane Austen Society of North America AGM. She has some open dates from the 6th through the 8th and would be interested in filling these bookings. Perhaps at a college or some other venue. If anyone is interested - please contact me at and I can put you in touch with her. Thank you..."}, {"response": 120, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (05:57)", "body": "Oh, I didn't mention that this topic is in the austen conference. I plan on attending the international Jane Austen conference in SF and promote the Spring's austen conference. Also, I've registered the name austen.com"}, {"response": 121, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (07:37)", "body": "Good Will Hunting. Titantic. New topics in the movies conference. Have you seen these? Comment in movies!"}, {"response": 122, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (21:11)", "body": "If you drop in tonight or later on, come by and comment on this years Oscars in topic 29. Hot. Now."}, {"response": 123, "author": "drool", "date": "Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (17:04)", "body": "mikeg, Well without getting long winded you did say the sickness was potentialy pre-exsisting sickness,. If pot was not illegal people would not get peranoid and annxious. as for impotence, I have aa very high sperm count and am expecting a strong and healthy baby boy to arrive any day. as for sexual drive well three times a day doesn't sound like a {decreased sex drive} as you so said. If you take a trip to Amterdam, you would see that somking hemp,pot,skunk,red hair sinns.,ganja, the bomb, bolo rolo,canabis,canaboid,the huch-cauw,a blunt, or canabis sativa, mota, purple, blue, green, or gold haired marajajuana, is not so detrimental to a persons health as you might be lead to beleive by the Ronald Regan, Nancy Drew (just say noer's} people. theend drool..."}, {"response": 124, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Mar 25, 1998 (22:39)", "body": "Funny, I always pictured Nancy Drew for a \"Mary Jane\" girl...."}, {"response": 126, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (16:22)", "body": "purty graphics! The visuals almost make up for the ridiculously slow pace through a browser."}, {"response": 128, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (03:30)", "body": "at home. and now I'm at home again, up at a ridiculously early hour, suffering from a bad case of insomnia. *sigh*"}, {"response": 129, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (07:47)", "body": "Did you drink too much caffeine. I'm in California up at a ridiculously early hour cause I'm still on Austintime. I'm out here because my mom's condition is pretty serious. Lung cancer from years of smoking. She's having an opertion and some chemo treatmetns this week."}, {"response": 130, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (09:34)", "body": "good luck, Paul. To you and your mom. Sounds like nasty stuff, I'll be thinking good thoughts. No, not too much caffeine. Rain. It rains so rarely in Colorado through the winter that when it starts up in Spring it's always too loud for me to sleep. Snow is very quiet coming down *smile* I wasn't up for too long. The whirr of the computer soon lulled me back to sleep."}, {"response": 131, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (13:09)", "body": "I love the sound of rain when I don't have to get up and go out in it. Lying in my bed at about 5am, the weather lashing against the glass, is one of my favourite times. And, moving back on topic, the new community I'm involved in developing, Farrawae, seems to have accelerated from an absolute stop to a snail's pace, which means things are happening! You can check out the website (I encourage you to do so - get a feel for what we're doing!), and then drop into the Farrawae conference to catch up on what's been going on!"}, {"response": 133, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (16:40)", "body": "My big news : SPRING BREAK!!! starts now! all the kiddos are on busses and I'm hankering for a magarita!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Mar 28, 1998 (20:44)", "body": "I'm in Walnut Creek with my son watchin' the Final Four and taking care of mom. Party on Stace. Where ya goin for break?"}, {"response": 135, "author": "orange", "date": "Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (12:47)", "body": "terry, very sorry about the family illness, i understand now why you have been scarce. hope everything goes well"}, {"response": 136, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (13:27)", "body": "Thanks orange. Mom is doing well. And I'm tripping around with my kid in SF and Santa Rosa and trying to hook up with some old friends like fig@well.com"}, {"response": 137, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (10:49)", "body": "And we're back. We're having problems with the domain change. Please email terry@spring.net if you notice that our system is down. And I'll get it back up and running Sorry for the downtime folks!"}, {"response": 138, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (10:50)", "body": "Or call 512.303.4000. Either way. Please let me know if you can't get in! Terry"}, {"response": 139, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (12:37)", "body": "Spring Break plans have changed a few times... first it was going to be Washington DC for a long weekend of museums, Ethiopian food, skating along the Potomac, etc. But since this is Cherry Blossom time, tickets were cost prohibitive. Then it was going to be four days of primitive camping in Fruita Wednesday - Sunday. Then it was going to be three days of primitve camping in Arches Nat. Park and Moab Sat - Tues. (Brandon's business travel keeps f***ing everything up!) BUt NOW it will be Stacey tagging along to Savannah GA w/ B on a consulting job and B taking an extra few days to play around in the garden of good and evil! I'm excited. And Saturday we biked thru Denver in search of \"Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.\" BTW excellent book!"}, {"response": 140, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (19:56)", "body": "Terry, I too am sorry to hear about your mother's health problems. I'm sure it means a lot to her to have you there. Thanks again for helping me out last night. Enjoy the time you're having with your mom and son."}, {"response": 141, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (10:20)", "body": "I'm in SF, and having a good time, the system seems to be having a few glitches every now and then but I emailed our system admin, jeff@www.spring.net about them. I just fixed the date. I notice we're having our year 2000 problem again. Yesterday we went and visited Brian Zisk (San Franziskgo website) in SF, and then met in a little bistro in Mill Valley with Cliff Figallo, who just got a conference hosting job with Salon. And then out to dinner at a great Thai place in Santa Rosa. Mom is doing well. And Shey is still beating the pants off me on the basketball court, it's hard to compete against 6'5\" of muscle. I hope I can keep this system together with band aids till I get back, sorry for any downtime! The domain name change from spring.com to spring.net will fully take place in the next few days, so please remember our new address is http://www.spring.net"}, {"response": 142, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (10:21)", "body": "Or alternatively, it's always: http://206.97.234.70 In case our name server has fits."}, {"response": 144, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (16:01)", "body": "In the vc.6 topic (Virtual Communities) are details of Vassilios Koronakis (vassilio@well.com) affair with Stacy Horn. Some pretty juicy insider stuff about the doyenne of ECHO by one of its most controversial members. Sizzzling tale... j vc and read topic 6"}, {"response": 145, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 12, 1998 (22:51)", "body": "Myretta emailed me a while ago and said we were down. So I just rebooted the server. Sorry folks, I been out doin' nonvirtual stuff today. In the event you notice you can't get in, please email jeff@spring.net and terry@spring.net And one of us will get things moving again. Wish I had heard about this sooner! I started a coupla new topics in genx. Check 'em out!"}, {"response": 147, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 13, 1998 (23:21)", "body": "What me grep?"}, {"response": 149, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 14, 1998 (20:25)", "body": "terry sorry about helen and your mom, hope she's doing well. live talks? oh my, not sure if i'm ready for that, everyone thinks i'm a kid when i answer the phone or answer the door-uh, is your mom there? *giggle* please post whenever you plan to have another one *smile*"}, {"response": 150, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (22:44)", "body": "Wanted. Person to drive my Buick Regal (30,000 miles on it) from the SF Bay area to Austin, Texas. I'll pay $200 and put you up for a week in Austin free and wine and dine you. Serious about this. I need to get this car out here."}, {"response": 151, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (23:55)", "body": "So tempted... so tempted..."}, {"response": 153, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (04:46)", "body": "I have several semi-serious inquiries so far but nothing solid. The car is in Walnut Creek, CA at my moms place. If you could do this Stacey, that would be great!"}, {"response": 154, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (17:38)", "body": "would you fly me out to SF, too? :-)"}, {"response": 155, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (17:44)", "body": "Nice try."}, {"response": 156, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (21:36)", "body": "Hey Terry, why don't you get that author whose doing book signings in SF and Austin to do it? :-)"}, {"response": 157, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (05:15)", "body": "Autumn! What a knack for putting things together!"}, {"response": 158, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 28, 1998 (22:49)", "body": "Here's a pointer to talk about the NBC miniseries that showed the other night: Merlin Find a discussion in topic 17 in 'babes' and in the tv conference."}, {"response": 160, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (07:09)", "body": "Just regroup William and take another run at it, because you seem to have some insight and perception in this area of Arthurian legend (surpassing that of your knowledge of babe-onomics)."}, {"response": 161, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (15:39)", "body": "really?????"}, {"response": 163, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (22:46)", "body": "Gary Chapman asked me a question and a favor. You have probably heard about the shooting of Texas Monthly writer Jan Reid down in Mexico City last week. Jan is in the hospital in Houston now, recovering. (Jan is a friend of Garys.) A bunch of people in Austin are putting together a fundraiser for him at the Driskill Hotel on May 9th. Jan can't be there, obviously, because he'll still be in the Rehab Hospital in Houston. Gary was wondering is if I knew how we might get a live video feed over the net to Jan from the Driskill. They're going to check to see if there's a fast net connection in the hospital itself, but Gary'd like to investigate how he'd handle his end at the gig. So I'm volunteering and looking for someone to assist me, someone with a good on camera presence to interview folks."}, {"response": 164, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, May 1, 1998 (16:21)", "body": "yes WER. Surprised (and ticklish!)"}, {"response": 166, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 2, 1998 (08:42)", "body": "In topic 8 in the art conference, Lenadams Dorris vegas@well.com Enigma is the focus of discussion, visit her website and comment. Lenadams: Hello, everyone...I've been pretty absent lately, mostly because my cafe, the Enigma, has been so terribly busy. We're up to 14 employees now! We were honored to again win in the 1998 Best of Las Vegas Awards, this time for \"Best Art Scene.\" Many of you have stopped by to visit when in Las Vegas, which is wonderful. You may be interested to know that we are about to celebrate our fifth anniversary, with ten days of art, music and spoken word events. I redesigned our web site to bring it all up to date, and included an ongoing scrapbook of pictures of the Enigma and its people and things, if you want to get a better idea of what we look like. Some of you will remember that on our third birthday in 1996, a lot of WELLbeings sent postcards to help us celebrate our grand re-opening after renovations. While many of those cards are still around, many have been lost to time and careless coffee drinkers. If any of you are into it, we'd love to get a bunch of new cards from all over the world (in the scrapbook you can see some of the cards pasted to the front of the coffee counter...) People love seeing all the cards, and we love hearing from our far-flung friends. If you want to send postcards, our address is: Enigma Garden Cafe (or just \"Enigma\") 918 South Fourth Street Las Vegas, NV 89101 Thanks everyone...even when I am not online so much, you are my extended family who has helped keep me going all these years. Smooch!"}, {"response": 167, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 2, 1998 (08:59)", "body": "In the media conference, linked to the news conference: Item 30 entered Sat, May 2, 1998 (08:58) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Live from LA, it's suicide on the freeway! They just has a live broadcast of a freeway suicide in LA, with closeup shots of someones head being blow off as they popped off a shotgun. We are at the point where everyone must know everything that's going on as it happens. Both a new low in journalism and a taste of the future."}, {"response": 168, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, May 3, 1998 (10:58)", "body": "euwwww"}, {"response": 169, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 9, 1998 (08:03)", "body": "Riette is on a roll in philosophy. She's got the scoop on truth, wisdom and even started up a new topic. Glad to see Riette jumping in to this little known backwater of the Spring."}, {"response": 170, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 10, 1998 (05:00)", "body": "Riette has taken philoslophy by storm. I think she's a night person!"}, {"response": 171, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 10, 1998 (13:56)", "body": "New topic in travel: England."}, {"response": 172, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, May 11, 1998 (18:54)", "body": "wooo hoooo.....i'm pilin' in there!"}, {"response": 173, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 13, 1998 (07:23)", "body": "Windows Conference: Texas vs. Microsoft (AG wants to raise campaign funds and keep job. Bolt from sky tells him he is barking up wrong tree.) Texas Puts Off Action Against Microsoft (05/12/98; 8:58 p.m. ET) By Kora McNaughton, TechWeb Pressure from Texas-based licensees of Microsoft Windows has given pause to that state's attorney general, Dan Morales, who was expected to file an antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft later this week. In a statement issued Tuesday, Morales said, \"Before contemplating any legal action against Microsoft, I feel it is prudent and wise to personally hear the concerns of our Texas-based companies.\" Morales will meet with the Companies over the next few weeks. Morales said his office has received letters from several Texas computer executives worried that a lawsuit against Microsoft would \"negatively impact\" their companies and the state as a whole. Morales' postponement of any action is an additional boost for Microsoft, which won an important victory against the Justice Department Tuesday when a federal appeals court ruled that Internet Explorer may be bundled with Windows 98. Expectations have been building that several state attorneys general and the Justice Department were readying broad antitrust complaints against Microsoft, but Morales' statement indicates such lawsuits may not happen for weeks, if at all."}, {"response": 174, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 13, 1998 (08:46)", "body": "The tv conference: 5 19 Seinfeld Tomorrow night, Thursday, is the Last Seinfeld. Some folks are watching jsut for the commercials. The show about nothing is no longer. Just re-runs for here on out. The cast is going to be on the Tonight Show."}, {"response": 175, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 14, 1998 (21:10)", "body": "Daniel Cardenas wrote: The Justice Conference will focus on topics of criminal justice. Sample top ics could be Death Penalty v. Life, rehabilitation v. punishment, juvenile justice, women in prison, ethnic makeup of jails and prisons. Also could talk about serial killers, famous prisoners now in prison, current prison cases, laws, crime, statistics, studies, etc.. It could go into Native American law, white collar crime v. blue collar, constitutional law. My plan for getting conversation going, is to talk to friends of mine to signing up, also, since I am new, I havent participated in any conversat ions yet. Through those conversations, I could steer people to the Justice conference. So, now there is a 'justice' conference. j justice"}, {"response": 176, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 16, 1998 (11:57)", "body": "Austin's still \"smokin'\". Literally. A surreal pall hangs over us as smoke blows in from Mexican fires out of control. Check out topic 28 in the austin conference or topic 7 in the environment conference (they're crosslinked). air Austin The Mexican government procrastinates and the US Governement does a \"study\" while Austinites choke."}, {"response": 177, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, May 17, 1998 (10:21)", "body": "I hope Riette sticks around, I look forward every day to reading her cool insights in the philosophy conference. New in the spirit conference, a topic on the Sufi Order and Sufi dancing."}, {"response": 178, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (00:06)", "body": "you mean like the Kavadi(sp?)?"}, {"response": 179, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 20, 1998 (07:57)", "body": "Guess who's back? Howard Fredrics! Great!"}, {"response": 180, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 22, 1998 (02:13)", "body": "Jim Moss aka Leplep Le Plep is doing his fair share in Philosophy, also, things are getting quite interesting in there... and, this in from Wolf (and edited, a little, of course...): Hi Wer!! Dude, thanks for writing me. It's good to hear from familiar folks. You can write here all the time, I do have regular access to it. As for the Spring, I do that when I'm not working and won't be on it as often as before for the time being. It's very very hot here, but it's not too bad. Drink lots of water and stay cool. Got up to 120 the other day, whew! But it's a dry heat *laugh*. Talk later, Elke :) mswolf68@hotmail.com"}, {"response": 181, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, May 22, 1998 (02:15)", "body": "oh, yeah, and I updated the GenX Storybook annex page at http://www.spring.net/~spew/chap1.html"}, {"response": 182, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, May 24, 1998 (10:05)", "body": "I've just opened a new topic in Spirit, which I would like to link to Philosophy - \"Why Christianity is not Religious\""}, {"response": 183, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, May 25, 1998 (15:54)", "body": "But, Christianity is WAY to religious..."}, {"response": 184, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, May 25, 1998 (18:09)", "body": "sorry, I seemed to have lost an o while camping... how are we gonna go about this semantic wrestling match, Mike? see you there..."}, {"response": 185, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, May 25, 1998 (18:09)", "body": "Terry has moved into his new casa, and won't be back on here full time until his ISDN line gets installed somewhere around the 4th or 5th of June...(I think, however, he is sneaking around here tonight)"}, {"response": 186, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 28, 1998 (20:30)", "body": "Yup, dialin' in. My isdn line goes in on the 4th. I'll be havin' another pool party soon. I'm sittin' here with my notebook by poolside, with the tv cranked up on the music awards. Swimmin' rockin' out and lurkin' the Spring a bit."}, {"response": 187, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 28, 1998 (20:39)", "body": "News conference. Obits. Phil Hartman of SNL fame. Shot dead, possibly by his wife who killed herself."}, {"response": 188, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (05:06)", "body": "I'm sorry I haven't been around much. It's Early Finals time here at Sussex again, which means that I'm studying like crazy (just as I should be now...) I will be around occassionally, but not much. However, after June 25 I will be back, with the trauma of 14 examinations over!!!"}, {"response": 189, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (06:23)", "body": "So, that's where you've been all this time - I was beginning to worry; thought you got run over by a car or something. I didn't know you were English; I just love England and Scotland - I go there at least once or twice a year. It is just so beautiful with the rolling landscapes, quaint little towns, and the people are incredibly nice. I even married one of them! Anyway, I hope your exams will be going well, and hope you'll be back more often after that."}, {"response": 190, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (09:14)", "body": "Good luck on your finals, Mike!"}, {"response": 191, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (14:01)", "body": "14 examinations?!?! how many classes are you taking?"}, {"response": 192, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jun 6, 1998 (11:37)", "body": "excuse me, I'm butting in for a second, the GenX Storybook pages can now be found at http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/chap1.html http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/chap2.html come by and read 'em, puh-leeeze! now, back to our regularly scheduled conversation..."}, {"response": 193, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jun 18, 1998 (14:23)", "body": "The index page is up for the GenX Storybook...it's at http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/indeX.html it's kinda graphic intesive, let me know what ya'll think..."}, {"response": 194, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (14:42)", "body": "Thoroughly Modern Jane This conference is for fiction using Jane Austen characters in non-Regency settings. Fiction based on Jane Austen and set in her period is at The Republic of Pemberley Your host is Carolyn http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/modjane/all This has been in the works for a while, and the time was ripe to announce it. Credit is due to Amy and Myretta, the wonder workers from the Republic of Pemberly, a board that was incubated right here on the Spring."}, {"response": 195, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (14:46)", "body": "The announcement is at: http://www.pemberley.com/pemb/admin/fiction/webbbs/boi.html and there is a little discussion on the help board at: http://www.pemberley.com/pemb/admin/help/index.html"}, {"response": 196, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (14:57)", "body": "and if anyone has noticed, there has been more modjane-ing than firthing lately, so there's already plenty o' stuff to read..."}, {"response": 197, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Tue, Jun 30, 1998 (22:26)", "body": "ok, i'll ask...what in the heck is modjane?"}, {"response": 198, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jul 1, 1998 (01:52)", "body": "Moder Jane Austen... Jane's characters in modern settings..."}, {"response": 199, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 1, 1998 (05:06)", "body": "I'll have to start reading her works . . . sounds like fun!"}, {"response": 200, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 1, 1998 (22:40)", "body": "Saw a preview for a movie tonight with Jane Austen in the title. It didn't look like it had anything to do with Jane Austen though."}, {"response": 201, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 2, 1998 (05:41)", "body": "How exiting! A movie with Jane Austen in the title which really has nothing to do with her!"}, {"response": 202, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (23:09)", "body": "It's really a novel idea when you think about it! The possibilities for future films are endless!"}, {"response": 203, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (01:31)", "body": "Jane Austin, pet detective."}, {"response": 204, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (05:59)", "body": "Riette is now set up with host powers in 'art'. Which means she can customize it to her heart's desire. More specifically: The Role of the Conference Host Each conference has at least one host. The duties of the host vary from maintenance-only hosting which might involved clearing out old and unused topics to high-involvement hosting where the host takes an active role in encouraging and participating in the discussions. Hosts can help topics stay on the subject, answer questions, and bring up new subjects. They help new users and lost users. They generally keep things rolling along in the conference. Hostly Powers Hosts can perform the following acts that regular users cannot. Open the first topic in the conference. Retire any topic in the conference. Kill any topic in the conference. Change the conference header. Change the bulletin which is a message displayed (if new) once for everyone. Change the welcome message which is displayed when someone joins for the first time. Change the conference configuration commands. Change the ulist which is the list of participants' logins. Change the login message which is displayed when entering the conference. Change the Logout"}, {"response": 205, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (16:39)", "body": "OOOH, all that power . . . am I allow to tie people up too?"}, {"response": 206, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (17:32)", "body": "allowed, that is."}, {"response": 207, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (19:41)", "body": "only if you include me"}, {"response": 208, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (22:30)", "body": "\"Jane Austen, Pet Detective\"--ROTFLMAO!!! Good one, Riette!!"}, {"response": 209, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (03:40)", "body": "ha-ha! Mike, you mean, you've not even noticed that you're already tied to me? Broken arm to broken finger! Which finger? Because if it's your right, then we can make music together! My right hand, your left. You do the cords, I strum. How does that sound?"}, {"response": 210, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (13:37)", "body": "woo woo! then BOTH of you are still handcuffed to the couch!"}, {"response": 211, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (16:28)", "body": "So we're tied to one another AND the couch? This is getting complicated. Now all we need is for you and Wer to join us, and we'll be a Spring Quartet!"}, {"response": 212, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Jul 7, 1998 (19:07)", "body": "lol :) nice pun, riette :)"}, {"response": 213, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 7, 1998 (21:40)", "body": "I changed the Spring's base href tag to \" http://www.spring.net/ by adding the trailing / Check out the website and see if it's working in your browser, if you care to. Is the picture refreshing automatically every 60 seconds like it is supposed to do? We're building a new server soon. I just ordered a CD-R to use for backing up our present system. Should be here tomorrow or the next day. Spring party here the 18th, hope all the local springeurs can make it by, even ok for wer to drop in late after work. We should still be jammin' Everyone, please invite someone you know or don't know to join our conversation! Let's start growing incrementally! Back to the All Start game."}, {"response": 214, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 7, 1998 (21:41)", "body": "Start sb Star."}, {"response": 215, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (00:58)", "body": "Holland is out of the World Cup!!!!!! YAAAAAA-HOOOOOOOOO!!!"}, {"response": 216, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (15:12)", "body": "you're happy? i was gutted. they were the only non-cheating team left in. now Brazil, and their team of professional divers, will win."}, {"response": 217, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (15:17)", "body": "(\"professional divers\"??? what does this mean?)"}, {"response": 218, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (15:46)", "body": "All I gotta say is, GO CROATIA!"}, {"response": 219, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (16:15)", "body": "Me too. Mike!!! I'm shocked! You shouted for Holland?! They played like big bullies! But I don't really care who wins, and it wouldn't have bothered me much if they HAD won . . . as long as it isn't France (or Germany, I was going to say, but they're out already, thank heavens!)!!"}, {"response": 220, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (19:24)", "body": "professional divers refers to the Brazilian penchant for jumping to the floor at the mere hint of an opposition player coming close to them. a technique prevalent on the continent, it is scorned here in England, and rightly so."}, {"response": 221, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (23:17)", "body": "\"jumping to the floor\" ??? Should we take this to the soccer topic in sports?"}, {"response": 222, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (01:32)", "body": "No, NO NO!! They play with their feet, Holland plays with those big, chunky muscles! And all the teams do that opera thing anyway to try and get the other team a yellow card. Was it in that one game between Paraguay and WHO? where the one guy from Paraguay did that magnificent roll practically from one end of the field to the other after tripping over someone's foot? I was in stitches. But I adore the Paraguayan goalkeeper. He's SO charismatic, and a great player too. I also liked that young English player, Mike Owen who kicked that wonderful goal against Argentinia. WOW! Sorry, Terry, I won't say more - I really can't go to sports; I know Nothing about Nothing there. I just enjoy watching the WC, because then I can cuddle the little guinea-piggies at the same time."}, {"response": 223, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (16:01)", "body": "So, is Croatia still alive?"}, {"response": 224, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (16:33)", "body": "the team? no, they went out to France. France vs. Brazil in the final. I reckon 1-0 to Brazil."}, {"response": 225, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (16:36)", "body": "The Babes conference header has had a bit of an update. A new logo, and a couple of \"additions\". Head on over . You might also fancy dropping into the Alicia Silverstone topic, to check out this wonderful wonderful (wonnnnnnderrfulll....i should stop now) actress."}, {"response": 226, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (16:36)", "body": "Who do you think will score the goal?"}, {"response": 227, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (16:36)", "body": "Warning: a comment slipped in ahead of yours at 225!"}, {"response": 228, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (16:38)", "body": "i've no idea - i didn't watch any of the Brazil matches. and maybe we should this chatter to Sports - it's a bit irrelevant here :) are the slippage warnings supposed to be posted?"}, {"response": 229, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 9, 1998 (22:44)", "body": "No, not usually, it's just so rare!"}, {"response": 230, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (15:19)", "body": "Topic 13 in Spirit: 13 1 Steven Seagal, sacred vessel of Tibetan Buddhism and reincarnated lama"}, {"response": 231, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (05:34)", "body": "I'll have a look, Terry, but that's a good thing, isn't it? I mean those monks look very holy to me - I respect them."}, {"response": 232, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:28)", "body": "Of course it's a good thing. This was brought up in response to your comments on the vacuity of Jean Claude Van Damme."}, {"response": 233, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (07:17)", "body": "I'm not changing my mind about van Damme though! If he were to become a Tibetan monk, I would advise all the others (including Seagal) ALWAYS to stand with their backs against the wall. He's such a horny old thing, one never knows what he might get up without women to adore him . . ."}, {"response": 234, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (12:20)", "body": "Did you find the Seagal topic?"}, {"response": 235, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (13:16)", "body": "Oh, here it is! Found it. Ehm, Terry, this response is now in one of the other topics, the reasons are there too, but I can't remember which topic! Anyway, I just more or less said that is was cool about Seagal being a tulku now. Don't you find?"}, {"response": 236, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (20:42)", "body": "hey folks, i am trying to build traffic to one of my conferences on the spring, science. come on by and post away!"}, {"response": 237, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (01:21)", "body": "But, Ray, I know absolutely nothing about science. Does that matter?"}, {"response": 238, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (09:23)", "body": "Tell us some of the things you want to talk about there in science!"}, {"response": 239, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (09:25)", "body": "right now i am posting news clippings from cnn.com related to science. these news clippings range from very cool and noncontroversial (stars and galaxies) to very controversial (mammal cloning). these are topics that everyone has at least one comment on. riette (and most folks here for that matter) may not know a lot about science, but is very smart and bound to add something positive. anyway, at least come on by and read then news snippets so when i do a \"parti\" command it shows more than 3 people who have been to the conf!!!!!!!!!!"}, {"response": 240, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (10:43)", "body": "believe it or not, ratthing, but I lettered in science three years in high school..."}, {"response": 241, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (12:39)", "body": "well, then, come on by!"}, {"response": 242, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:08)", "body": "Will do, Ratthingy."}, {"response": 243, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (14:02)", "body": "Wired for mayhem By Mark Ward Economic booms and busts will become more frequent and more severe if programs called software agents control electronic commerce. Agents tend to exaggerate the worst market swings and create disastrous price wars, say two research groups in the US. As more goods and services are bought on the Internet, observers predict . . ."}, {"response": 244, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (16:12)", "body": "that people will find ways to overcome problems that may occur, if they occur."}, {"response": 245, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (16:29)", "body": "This points to a new topic in the internet conference, where you can read the rest. Or just take Riette's word for it!"}, {"response": 246, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (19:41)", "body": "\ufffdsmiling sheepishly\ufffd"}, {"response": 247, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (05:37)", "body": "Did anyone perchance read it?"}, {"response": 248, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (11:27)", "body": "Where was tv banned? What country? Find out in news topic 10."}, {"response": 249, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (14:46)", "body": "In the windows conference a new topic, security. And a new product guranateed to scare the daylights out of you, Back Orifice."}, {"response": 250, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (14:48)", "body": "new topics in art, justice, and genx, as well..."}, {"response": 251, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (14:57)", "body": "And porch 30 has a visual thesaurus (long) discussion to go along with our banter about synonyms."}, {"response": 252, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (15:13)", "body": "vc conference topic 12, an excerpt: Amsterdam Public Digital Culture On the Contradictions Among the Users by Geert Lovink & Patrice Riemens By the late nineties, the (in)famous Amsterdam squatters movement, which had dominated the socio-cultural (and law-and-order) agenda in the previous decade, had petered out in the city's streets, but its autonomous yet pragmatic mode of operation had infiltrated in the working of the more progressive cultural institutions. It was the time that the cultural centres 'Paradiso' and 'De Balie', which were at the vanguard of local cultural politics, embraced the 'technological culture' theme in their programming. In the beginning, this took the shape of a critical, if somewhat passive, observation of the technologies surrounding us, and of their attendant risks, but it quickly evolved in a Do-It-Yourself, from below approach. Technology was no longer seen as the preserve of science, big business, or the government. It could also become . . ."}, {"response": 253, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (16:29)", "body": "In travel, a new topic on Paris and France."}, {"response": 254, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (16:58)", "body": "feel free to talk about their overabundance of wers..."}, {"response": 255, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (00:15)", "body": "Yesterday, the Senate moved one step closer to passing legislation which jeopardizes free speech and access to information on the Internet. Two measures, which were attached to a spending bill for the Commerce, State, and Justice departments after a voice vote, are based on two previously introduced bills: The Communications Decency Act (CDA) II (introduced by Senator Coats) and the Internet School Filtering Act (introduced by Senator McCain). for the rest see http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/internet/12"}, {"response": 256, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (07:05)", "body": "Gambling on the net is also about to be outlawed."}, {"response": 257, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (07:36)", "body": "One can GAMBLE here? That can't be fun."}, {"response": 258, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 26, 1998 (08:08)", "body": "It could get expensive, with all they shysters out there."}, {"response": 259, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Jul 26, 1998 (10:01)", "body": "Yeah, well, if one is stupid enough to take the risk, one must take the consequences when they present themselves. I must confess that Chris and I adore playing the slot machines in England or Namibia when we're there. It's great fun, and we laugh ourselves to bits over each other's efforts to coax money out of the machine."}, {"response": 260, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (10:54)", "body": "The internet conference has a new topic inspired by some of Bruce Sterling's literary freeware: Topic 25 of 25: 'hackers (Hacker Crackdown by Bruce Sterling)' Response 1 of 1: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (10:52) 743 lines Bruce Sterling bruces@well.sf.ca.us Literary Freeware -- Not for Commercial Use Speech to High Technology Crime Investigation Association Lake Tahoe, Nov 1994 Good morning, my name's Bruce Sterling, and I'm a sometime computer crime journalist and longtime science fiction writer from Austin Texas. I'm the guy who wrote HACKER CRACKDOWN, which is the book you're getting on one of those floppy disks that are being distributed at this gig like party favors. People in law enforcement often ask me, Mr Sterling, if you're a science fiction writer like you say you are, then why should you care about American computer police and private security? And also, how come my kids can never find any copies of your sci-fi novels? . . . ya gotta go there to get the rest."}, {"response": 261, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:05)", "body": "But please go there and comment as a special facor to me if nothing else, I want to show Bruce we care."}, {"response": 262, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:05)", "body": "facor sb favor"}, {"response": 263, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:18)", "body": "In travel: Item 23 entered Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:16) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry) bargain airfares Bargain airfares. Where to get 'em mostly on the web. 1 new of 1 response total. Topic 23 of 23: 'bargain airfares' Response 1 of 1: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:17) 6 lines A good place to start: www.cheaptickets.com I heard of someone who got a $600 round trip ticket to Paris instead of the $3,000 the airlines wanted."}, {"response": 264, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:19)", "body": "Who's beginning to look like a tomato? I won't tell, but you can find out in the food conference."}, {"response": 265, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:34)", "body": "\ufffdturning red\ufffd"}, {"response": 266, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (13:10)", "body": "Sssh, you'll give it away."}, {"response": 267, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (14:00)", "body": "Give what away? I didn't tell anyone about your hay fetish!"}, {"response": 268, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (14:28)", "body": "Whew! Good."}, {"response": 269, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (14:41)", "body": "It would be hard to convey how wonderful are the descriptions of Paris provided by Riette, you'll just have to journey to travel to find out for yourself."}, {"response": 270, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (00:57)", "body": "And oh, if you'd like to find out about Terry's fetishes, you can go look in Music or even, hey, ask him yourself!"}, {"response": 271, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (00:57)", "body": "If the Internet is such a wonderful and diverse environment then how come we're all going to the same places. Yahoo, Netscape, AOL, Microsoft, Alta Vista, Excite, Geocities, Amazon and a few others command over fifty percent of Internet traffic. for more ifs, and/or to supply some answers, go to http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/internet/26"}, {"response": 272, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (05:19)", "body": "Because fools never differ?"}, {"response": 273, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (08:51)", "body": "Been there already, a good read."}, {"response": 274, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (09:16)", "body": "New topic in the tv conference: Ushuaia: The Ultimate Adventure Hosted by Perri Peltz, \"Ushuaia: The Ultimate Adventure\" offers a fascinating look at the real-life adventures of French dare-devil Nicolas Hulot and his Ushuaia team. The one-hour adventure series, which takes its name from a small town in Tierra Del Fuego at the tip of South America, features incredible expeditions, extreme sports and fierce competitions . . ."}, {"response": 275, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (06:53)", "body": "Do you want to see what the Spring looked like in 1995? check out http://www.spring.net/~dbii/forum/ or for a real pastblast: http://www.spring.net/~dbii/forum/confs.html"}, {"response": 276, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (06:54)", "body": "Ooops, wrong url, it's http://www.spring.net/~dbii/forum/confs/confs.html"}, {"response": 277, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (11:41)", "body": "Will go have a look as soon as I wake up."}, {"response": 278, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 5, 1998 (16:44)", "body": "Tired from your long trip?"}, {"response": 279, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (01:12)", "body": "I sure was, Terry. We were supposed to get back Tuesday evening, but the flight got cancelled after we boarded the aircraft. Then they tried to put us on another flight to London, and from there to Basle, and then they wanted us to take a TAXI from there to Z\ufffdrich. At which point I decided it was a good time for a tantrum - because this was like 22:00 at night, my kids were shattered, and we would not have arrived home before about four in the morning. So they gave us free hotel accommodation, two fre meals, and all that stuff. Which was fun, but we had to be up early again to catch the flight to Z\ufffdrich, which, in the end, didn't go until 12:20 - so we did get in at 4:00 - in the afternoon, that is. I always swore I wouldn't fly Swissair again after the first time I did. Chris thought I was merely being prejudiced, and so the past two days pretty much proved my point! Mad as a bull, he was! They are the most unprofessional airline since the Kipkana express!"}, {"response": 280, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (11:23)", "body": "How far is it from Basle to Zurich?"}, {"response": 281, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (16:23)", "body": "I'm not sure in miles or kilometres, but per car it's between one and a half and two hours. How far is it from Austin to Boston?"}, {"response": 282, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 6, 1998 (17:20)", "body": "About 1800 miles at least."}, {"response": 283, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (00:56)", "body": "Damn. Was hoping to be able to combine my Spring excursion next year with a little visit to my sister. Well, if she can get holiday I shall just have to bring her along."}, {"response": 284, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (09:10)", "body": "Great, bring her along!"}, {"response": 285, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (13:08)", "body": "Thanks - I'll consider that an invitation! Think I'd be less nervous about coming with her by my side."}, {"response": 286, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (00:29)", "body": "I think the two of you would love Austin. And just think all the hours and hours of real live face to face conversation we could all have."}, {"response": 287, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (01:10)", "body": "Real live face to face, eye to eye, mouth to mouth, hand to hand, body to body.... \ufffdBIG BIG SMILE\ufffd Have I seduced you?"}, {"response": 288, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (14:17)", "body": "not yet, but you can keep trying if you'd like..."}, {"response": 289, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (15:13)", "body": "Damn! My mum always says she hasn't a clue how I was able to produce two children - she says I'm too stupid to be sexy. Guess she's right. Luckily one doesn't have to be sexy in order to have sex! Are you still on holiday, or are you back now?"}, {"response": 290, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (23:35)", "body": "I'm back..."}, {"response": 291, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (01:35)", "body": "Good. People had better start coming alive in the Spring, or I shall respond to every single topic in every single conference, and cause a spring scandal."}, {"response": 292, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (07:03)", "body": "Scandal, controversy. Awesome! Go for it Riette! And on the Spring's main page today, a piece put together by my friend Mangala, an English lady who is very passionate about saving Texas from the nukes: The video you are watching is about the proposed nuclear dump in Sierra Blanca, Texas. It was filmed in early July of this year. The 53rd anniversary of the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima in Japan has just passed and, in an attempt to heighten the Public's awareness of the dangerous nuclear situation in West Texas, many brave souls, at least 200, are currently marching from El Paso to Sierra Blanca. Unless the People speak out NOW, a license will be granted by the T.N.R.C.C. for a nuclear waste facility to be built in this beautiful pristine area of Texas which is 16 miles from the Mexican border where the Rio Grande runs and over an earthquake fault line. This facility will serve as a dump for other states including Maine and Vermont. Trucks will bring the waste right across the U.S. If you have the possibility to join the marchers then please do so. They have been on Highway 20 past Fort Hancock and now are joining I10 to march the rest of the way to Sierra Blanca. They are supposed to arrive in Sierra Blanca around 1.30pm tomorrow, August 9th. Topic about this in environment."}, {"response": 293, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (07:42)", "body": "Does anyone want to put up a gallery page of pix of springeurs that I can point to from the main page?"}, {"response": 294, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (09:30)", "body": "I'll put it on the list..."}, {"response": 295, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (13:00)", "body": "Hi, Wer!!"}, {"response": 296, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (13:35)", "body": "we *really* need to start a weird-like conf here on the spring. there are sooooo many topics there just begging for riette!"}, {"response": 297, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (14:39)", "body": "new topics in poetry too! (and yeah, this place has been dead, what's up?)"}, {"response": 298, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (22:58)", "body": "wer now has conference creation capabilities. Go William!"}, {"response": 299, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Aug 9, 1998 (23:23)", "body": "I wondered when you were going to let that out of the bag... actually I was holding off on starting any new confs until you had the new server up and running..."}, {"response": 300, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (05:02)", "body": "Oh, magnificent!!! What's your conference going to be called? And, Wer, we're all with you! Ray, you think me weird??? You flatterer!!"}, {"response": 301, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (06:46)", "body": "Check out Mangala's video!"}, {"response": 302, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (06:52)", "body": "It's ok because we'll be transferring all this content anyway. And I'm not phasing in the new server for a while, because these one chugs along fairly reliably. And the new server will be a support machine until it proves it's metal. And also there's the issue that it's a difference flavor unix (Free BSD instad of BSDI)."}, {"response": 303, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (00:50)", "body": "ok, ratthing and every one else, Riette and I have already gotten http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/screwed and wouldn't you know it, she came first... and introduced herself!"}, {"response": 304, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (00:53)", "body": "yeah, I know, the url should be http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/screwed/all but it worked, didn't it? (and read better, as well)"}, {"response": 305, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (06:11)", "body": "Nothing like a good screw! ha-ha!"}, {"response": 306, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (21:26)", "body": "is this, like, a whole new conference?"}, {"response": 307, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (21:45)", "body": "yes! please visit screwed!"}, {"response": 308, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (21:50)", "body": "ok!!!"}, {"response": 309, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (19:49)", "body": "I whupped up a coupla new topics, mostly related to Austin goings on but of general interest also. The first is in poetry. It's about teh 98 national Poetry Slam which is going to kick off in a few days. This is the Superbowl of poetry, folks. And I'll be there. The other is a website and discussion about Body Choir, a group that I have fun with and which I have talked about briefly. http://www.spring.net/bodychoir And the Pledge Drive is still going strong with two new contributions, Read the topic in this conference."}, {"response": 310, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (21:26)", "body": "Terry, when you click on it, it says \"File Not Found.\""}, {"response": 311, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (22:21)", "body": "It's fixed now."}, {"response": 312, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (23:12)", "body": "Oh, very interesting! PS: check your email."}, {"response": 313, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (06:10)", "body": "Varoom! Keep them names coming, in, of all places, babes? Any Mike Griggs sightings? And catch either the Internet or the Austin conference for a listing of interesting websites about race, class and the Internet from Arthur McGee. Art goddess Riette continues on her roll in the art conference. It's a great education!"}, {"response": 314, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (06:37)", "body": "Thought you had problems? the entire cap the size of the USA and part of Canada 20,000 feet thick will slide into the ocean causing huge waves... In the news conference."}, {"response": 315, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (01:22)", "body": "!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN?!?!?!"}, {"response": 316, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (09:34)", "body": "Don't know. Sounds kind of hokey, should have put it in the news of the weird topic (do we have one?) . . . along with the alien abductions. You'll have to visit news and check the web links, I spose."}, {"response": 317, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (09:49)", "body": "SpringSearch! http://www.spring.net/search New!"}, {"response": 318, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (10:33)", "body": "too cool! check out this feature, as well... http://www.spring.net/~spew/ss/"}, {"response": 319, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:03)", "body": "Looks good Terry. Now we know why you're so busy ;-)"}, {"response": 320, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:36)", "body": "It only took about 10 minutes to set up. Ooops, didn't call you last night. Give me a buzz later."}, {"response": 321, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:39)", "body": "This topic now linked to drool."}, {"response": 322, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:46)", "body": ""}, {"response": 323, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:47)", "body": ""}, {"response": 324, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:50)", "body": "This topic now linked to drool Yes, I noticed. Did you upgrade the software or something? I've been able yo post without getting a Yapp error the last couple of days."}, {"response": 325, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:50)", "body": "No updates! Unless Kaylenes been working behind the scenes. wer is taking an active role in overall system management and design, which is great. New topic internet (topic 28) which lists communication clients, these are ways we can meet using audio, video and text chat. Here are some of the best communications clients: Here are, in general, the best apps for communicating over the net (not just videoconferencing in some cases) in order of effectiveness and overall quality: Iphone 5.01 ftp://ftp.vocaltec.com/pub/iphone/iphone50.exe WebPhone ftp://ftp.netspeak.com/pub/wpsetup.exe VDOPhone ftp://ftp.vdo.net/vdptrial.exe NetMeeting http://mssjus3.www.conxion.com/msdownload/netmeeting/Nm21.exe OnLive! Traveler http://www.onlive.com/cgi-bin/travreg.cgi PowWow32 ftp://ftp.powwow.com/powwow36.exe PhoneFerret ftp://ferret.aitcom.net/pub/ferret/PFT111.exe Virtual Places http://download.vplaces.com/clients/VP32r21.exe Active Worlds http://aw.mpl.net/downloads/awb.exe Speak Freely http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/windows/speakfb.zip WinTalk ftp://ftp.elf.com/pub/wintalk/wtalk127.zip VoxPhone ftp://papa.indstate.edu/winsock-l/Windows95/tx32v20.exe"}, {"response": 326, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:51)", "body": "Slippage!"}, {"response": 327, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (16:47)", "body": "Let's talk to a prisoner. See justice topic 4."}, {"response": 328, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (01:09)", "body": "You mean a married man?"}, {"response": 329, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (22:40)", "body": "nope, that's what he'd a meant if I had said it..."}, {"response": 330, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (01:29)", "body": "You feel like marriage is an imprisonment? I don't really, except when Chris doesn't want to go on the merry-go-round with me. Then I wish I hadn't been married, 'cos then I would not have WANTED him to come along in the first place, and I wouldn't have had to nag him about it."}, {"response": 331, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (17:17)", "body": "Topic 7 of 13: 'NATO and European politics' Response 11 of 11: naive (ergopublic) Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (15:56) 18 lines Strange (or funny) to read this discussion. At \"beeing wired - beeing human\" I was told to have a look at spring. The NATO and European politics page is really astonishing for a citizen that is not member of the U.S. nor the NATO nor even the U.N. ... ... read the rest in the politics conference. Wow, we can mentioned at being wired, being human! New blood. And Swiss too."}, {"response": 332, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (01:15)", "body": ""}, {"response": 333, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (08:49)", "body": "Read the story of the \"Tech Ranch\" radio program - about Austin technology - in the austin conference (topic 30) and it's linked to the 'radio' conference. Riette's art conference is awesome, it's forcing us telnetties onto the web to see it!"}, {"response": 334, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (10:51)", "body": "All this flattery is going to make me very vain soon..... MORE PLEASE!"}, {"response": 335, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (11:59)", "body": "She's absolutely stupendous! For you host sysop types, you can click on help on the Spring's main page and now get to a \"sysops corner\" which tells you how to use telnet to create conferences and do sysop type things."}, {"response": 336, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (13:45)", "body": "Keep that technology stuff away from me! They and me - we don't exactly get along."}, {"response": 337, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (21:29)", "body": "Geoff posted a new topic, number 49, in the web conference about a new postal service on the internet. I was running out the door and could only skim it real fast. Could someone else please take a look and post a better synopsis here? And welcome geoff, 'cause he's finally come out of the woodwork after hanging around here for at least a year. Maybe we can keep him out in the open now!"}, {"response": 338, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (23:09)", "body": "Gregory Kallenberg's online version of the XL article: http://austin360.com/tech/browser/browser.htm"}, {"response": 339, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (23:39)", "body": "thanks for posting the URL, terry. what a great blurb for the Spring! so are we *all* \"edgy and cool\" or just you, terry?"}, {"response": 340, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (01:05)", "body": "Remember, Ray,THE WALHUS IS OUR MASTER!"}, {"response": 341, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (17:02)", "body": "We're all so hip, groovy, cool and edgy that it's awesome."}, {"response": 342, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (19:31)", "body": "like, totally dude!"}, {"response": 343, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (02:01)", "body": "No-one should touch us - we're so hot, we'll burn them to ashes!"}, {"response": 344, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (15:27)", "body": "This may be tasteless and it may make you gag. That warning out of the way, it's topic 30 in babes. Jailbabes. Something to stir Mike up on his return."}, {"response": 345, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (01:28)", "body": "I think he'll laugh himself into a coma!"}, {"response": 346, "author": "isis", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (20:46)", "body": "hi i am a newbie whats hot....."}, {"response": 347, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (21:05)", "body": "this is what's hot--the spring! didn't you hear? we're edgy and cooooooool, woohoo!! welcome judy! look around, feel free to jump in on any topic..."}, {"response": 348, "author": "isis", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (21:08)", "body": "thank you and well i am,,but right now i am just looking around and thanks again..."}, {"response": 349, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (21:41)", "body": "welcome to the spring isis! what are your interests?"}, {"response": 350, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (21:48)", "body": "What's hot! The people here. The topics. Food. Art. Restaurants. Science. Babes. Drool. Movies. TV. And we like to hang out on our little 'Porch' and listen to the frogs croak down by the spring, and swap comments about what's hot. And you're hot, cause you're new!"}, {"response": 351, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 2, 1998 (22:40)", "body": "While there are tens of thousands of websites to visit, it is only the very seasoned netizen who will actually explore the wider reaches of the Internet. We know that most people tend to visit the same sites repeatedly. The average person has a list of ten websites they visit on a weekly basis and outside of that there is not much divergence. check http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/vc/all for the rest of the article...look around, you'll find it..."}, {"response": 352, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (23:11)", "body": "Books, Isis. Books are HOT. Come tell us what you're reading, even if it's trash."}, {"response": 353, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (03:44)", "body": "Or: get SCREWED!!! That was not an insult!"}, {"response": 354, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (19:17)", "body": "Really, wolf has read a book in nearly every state (you can take that two ways). And I posed the question to her whether or not she could remember which states she read which books. It's my way of steering a discussion back on topic. Books. Hot. Read. I love the creative direction Ree and wer a giving this place. Here guys, have a high 5! www.colinfirth.com and www.austen.com are coming, if I can get the new machine more organized with Peters help. Then the respective design teams can take over. I love drool and austen. I wish we could revive austen in a cway complemenatary to what Amy and Myretta are doing Sports. Baseball, I know you say ugh. But nonetheless I have made some comments on the current home run race between McGwire and Sosa in the sports topic 10 on the Cardinals if you care to join me. More later...."}, {"response": 355, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (19:18)", "body": "The get screwed comment was in reference to the Judy topic in screwed. Getting screwed is a peak experience around here."}, {"response": 356, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (01:44)", "body": "ABSOLUTELY"}, {"response": 357, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (09:38)", "body": "wait! terry, you wanted to know in which states i've read a book? not which states i've been in? well, now, this will have a completely different answer."}, {"response": 358, "author": "riette", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (02:19)", "body": "Waiting to hear it...."}, {"response": 359, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (02:22)", "body": "Yeah, waiting for what states in what states."}, {"response": 360, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (18:29)", "body": "crazy in all of them and i haven't a clue what i've read where!"}, {"response": 361, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (23:27)", "body": "Good things and new people going on in the Internet conference. And, yes, Ray, I'd love it if you'd work on those menu scripts. Topic 1 of 29: 'allow me to introduce myself' Response 38 of 40: Ray Lopez (ratthing) Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (22:57) 3 lines terry, i did not know you needed someone to work on the menus. i'd love to do that! Topic 1 of 29: 'allow me to introduce myself' Response 39 of 40: Arthur R McGee (amcgee) Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (23:19) 3 lines Yeah, thanks. I understand UNIX just fine, I just wasn't aware of how my shell needed to be setup for the conferencing software to work. On most systems, the conferencing software has it's own independent settings. Thanks again. Topic 1 of 29: 'allow me to introduce myself' Response 40 of 40: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (08:20) 5 lines Thanks Art, it's an issue that our conferening software should address. But our web population is much, much bigger than our telnet group, so naturally, the web is where most of our development has been. [1/29] Respond, forget, or pass? Item 10 entered Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (16:09) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry) ISPs - who is the best Internet Service Provider? 1 new of 3 responses total. Topic 10 of 29: 'ISPs - who is the best Internet Service Provider?' Response 2 of 3: Ito (ITO) Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (21:03) 4 lines I use shaw wave through the cable company in Calgary and I love it!, too fast, no phone line tied up and 24-hour connection. I pay $40Canadian a month; it ain't so bad but for those that need it it's worth it, there is no web space for a site but there is for ftp. Also, you are allowed to have up to 5 email accounts, which I guess some people would benefit from. The program I am into is the Home network. We'll be moving to Austin pretty soon, does anyone know whether there is cable internet service through the local cable company?, who is the cable company down there? if the service exists does anyone know what it costs? Thanks and happy surfing! Ito Topic 10 of 29: 'ISPs - who is the best Internet Service Provider?' Response 3 of 3: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (23:23) 4 lines Welcome Ito, yes, we either have it or we're getting it very soon. Very glad you're joining us."}, {"response": 362, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (23:37)", "body": "ooh, and don't forget to try the last 50 postings option on http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/main either...will be coming to a conference near you soon, also... (and maybe I can finally get the frames version and the goto button working, too)"}, {"response": 363, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (23:44)", "body": "I love that 50 last postings, everyone give wer a hug, ok?"}, {"response": 364, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (23:46)", "body": "didya see the cartoon? it changes everyday..."}, {"response": 365, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (23:47)", "body": "Terry, e-mail me the mailing address for your Austin casa, okay?"}, {"response": 366, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (01:46)", "body": "Goodness, do you guys actually have enough brain space to store all these techno terms in????"}, {"response": 367, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (08:14)", "body": "ok, how come i only got the cartoon once? and the 50 option is cool too, so here ya go, wer *squeeze*"}, {"response": 368, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (09:37)", "body": "what do you mean, once?"}, {"response": 369, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (09:48)", "body": "i mean one time, not twice, not more than one time *hehe*...a few days ago, i logged in, got my personalized deal with a cartoon on the right side of the screen. ever since then, no cartoon has shown up when i log in. got it?"}, {"response": 370, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (11:11)", "body": "got it...couldn't make it fit right with differenct hotlist lengths, so it now appears at the bottom of the last 50 postings page..."}, {"response": 371, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (12:07)", "body": "okay! t'anks, wer *grin*"}, {"response": 372, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (12:21)", "body": "oh, wer, i gots an idear, you know that cartoon you put at the bottom of 50 responses? well, what if we post a cartoon and have folks submit their own caption to 'em? huh, whatcha think, huh?"}, {"response": 373, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (13:34)", "body": "I don't care...I can't draw, however... speaking of, everyone go to http://www.spring.net/~spew/b/ and look at the buttons I'm working on, then come back and tell me what you think..."}, {"response": 374, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (15:13)", "body": "don't have to be able to draw, just post a cartoon!"}, {"response": 375, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 9, 1998 (16:22)", "body": "That could be a topic too. Post a picture and then the responses that follow are suggested captions."}, {"response": 376, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (00:18)", "body": "wer's top 50! Check it out: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/fifty"}, {"response": 377, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (05:38)", "body": "HEY HO HO HEY, is there some kind of favourism going on here, or what?? I've got no cartoon!!! \ufffdwailing bitterly\ufffd"}, {"response": 378, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (18:55)", "body": "Happy Birthday Colin Firth! http://www.colinfirth.com or http://www.firth.com hosted by the Spring and produced by the awesome babes of drool."}, {"response": 379, "author": "autumn", "date": "Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (20:37)", "body": "Wow! Cool and edgy psychedelic new buttons."}, {"response": 380, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (20:35)", "body": "Kristen has her own Spring page and has said she wants to start taking part in our discussions. It might help if folks here would send her some encouragement in the form of email and comments in her discussion area in 'babes'! http://www.spring.net/kristen ... which has a link to babes."}, {"response": 381, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (22:47)", "body": "ooooo...she doesn't even have a tilde..."}, {"response": 382, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (13:19)", "body": "Would it be rude of me to say that I hope flattery is not going to become the basis or condition for our friendship here?"}, {"response": 383, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (14:13)", "body": "i hope not! while the core group of us here enjoys a very jovial relationship, we shouild be careful not to let that supress creativity of thought and exposure to new ideas and people."}, {"response": 384, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (14:15)", "body": "...with that said, i feel that it is imperative that we maintain a level of civility here. if this place turns into the WELL i am leaving."}, {"response": 385, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (14:24)", "body": "I think we all really like each other and I don't see any signs of that!"}, {"response": 386, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (00:54)", "body": "GOOD. Just checking."}, {"response": 387, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (07:12)", "body": "We're very full on disk space. We have another machine (access) with 8 gb and it's nearly empty. Use it to store graphics files, etc and to start new websites and other projects. If there's anything in your directory you don't need, nuke it or move it to the new machine. We'll crash very soon if this keeps up. We're 95% full on this machine and bursting at the seams. I'm going in and moving everything I can to access that is in my personal directory. And I'm running a diskhog report which I'll publish later ... it takes a long time to run. It shows all directories on the system in descending order of size."}, {"response": 388, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (07:15)", "body": "Ok: !df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 19454 17614 866 95% / /dev/sd0h 2956188 2620738 187640 93% /usr We've got to cut out file storage on this machine and use our other machine(s) for storing files, expecially large ones."}, {"response": 389, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (07:35)", "body": "The gory details: bash$ cat hog du / | sort -rn > hogwww.txt bash$ su Password: bash# du / | sort -rn > hogwww.txt du: /usr/var/www/docs/.chai.html.tmp: No such file or directory bash# head -100 hogwww.txt 2637922 / 2620310 /usr 994658 /usr/home 929378 /usr/var 831078 /usr/var/www 604854 /usr/var/www/logs 417362 /usr/var/www/logs/spring.net 304514 /usr/bbs 167836 /usr/local 142238 /usr/home/work 115282 /usr/var/www/logs/childrenstory.com 113072 /usr/home/jeff 112028 /usr/bbs/part 102986 /usr/bbs/confs 99812 /usr/var/www/webdocs 86578 /usr/home/terry 82944 /usr/contrib 79210 /usr/var/www/docs 67458 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com 61896 /usr/var/log 56710 /usr/home/dbii 51682 /usr/local/src 46708 /usr/home/terry/Mail 46636 /usr/var/www/rafiles 46044 /usr/home/wmmeyers 45988 /usr/home/wmmeyers/public_html 45330 /usr/var/www/logs/spring.com 45162 /usr/home/jeff/perl 44746 /usr/bbs/www 44378 /usr/home/dbii/public_html 44278 /usr/home/anneh 44170 /usr/home/dbii/public_html/forum 44148 /usr/home/anneh/public_html 42196 /usr/local/src/pine4.02 41956 /usr/local/realaudio 40440 /usr/home/nbba 39502 /usr/contrib/bin 39398 /usr/home/wmmeyers/public_html/album 39238 /usr/bbs/www/home 38054 /usr/home/work/terry 37326 /usr/home/msworks 37296 /usr/home/msworks/MSWORKS 37030 /usr/share 36300 /usr/home/jeff/olddns 33398 /usr/var/mail 33108 /usr/home/anneh/public_html/derby 30402 /usr/home/nbba/incoming 30302 /usr/home/kreblon 29924 /usr/home/kreblon/public_html 29240 /usr/home/dbii/public_html/forum/confs 28588 /usr/src 28586 /usr/src/sys 27742 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales 26680 /usr/home/jeff/perl/perl5.004_04 26062 /usr/local/frontpage 26034 /usr/local/frontpage/version3.0 24748 /usr/home/paul 23924 /usr/home/paul/Mail 23580 /usr/home/terry/public_html 22892 /usr/var/www/webdocs/adultstory.com 22226 /usr/var/log/oldlog 21898 /usr/bbs/confs/drool 21362 /usr/var/www/logs/adultstory.com 21338 /usr/local/realaudio/pnserver.old 21054 /usr/contrib/lib 20976 /usr/home/ham 20680 /usr/home/bernie 19638 /usr/home/mrobens 19070 /usr/src/sys/i386 18914 /usr/bbs/confs/modjane 18834 /usr/local/src/pine4.02/bin 18514 /usr/var/www/docs/wle 18196 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/christmas 18178 /usr/home/mrobens/public_html 17848 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/snow 17602 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/snow/images 17552 /usr/home/jeff/sendmail 17540 /usr/home/work/Mail 17420 /usr/var/www/docs/bayless 17346 /usr/var/www/docs/bayless/images 16998 /usr/bind 16996 /usr/bind/named 16434 /usr/home/bernie/public_html 16034 /usr/bbs/confs/austenarchive 15646 /usr/home/mrobens/public_html/Ann 15496 /usr/src/sys/i386/OBJ 14762 /usr/local/pnserver 14686 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/christmas/images 14512 /usr/home/nan 14340 /usr/home/snap 14242 /usr/bin 14204 /usr/home/snap/public_html 14168 /usr/lib 14150 /usr/home/ham/Mail 13998 /usr/contrib/man 13922 /usr/share/man 13878 /usr/home/jeff/dns 13460 /usr/home/work/AWORKB 13452 /usr/home/alweeda 13188 /usr/bind/named/bin bash#"}, {"response": 390, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (08:06)", "body": "Terry, I nuked the topics on modjane, but don't have permissions to delete the conference. It will give you some more room, but the conference should be deleted."}, {"response": 391, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (11:27)", "body": "That's pretty much a drop in the bucket, but thanks. I'll delete the conference and remove it from the main page. We just need better log file management which means archiving the big logs over to access.spring.net. And I have about 45 mbs. of personal files that I'm copying and nuking."}, {"response": 392, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (12:59)", "body": "Terry, does the Art conference have something to do with this problem? Could you move it wherever it has to go in order to solve another drop in the bucket? I haven't a clue about these things - I thought one could just post and post, and it never gets full, 'cos it's internet files."}, {"response": 393, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (07:41)", "body": "We're in pretty good shape now, I just freed up 45mb last night and when I clean up the log files that will free up a lot more. We can get you an account on access.spring.net and you can have an area there for storage of art files. But, as you can see, we're in much better shape: bash$ df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 19454 17614 866 95% / /dev/sd0h 2956188 2450354 358024 87% /usr bash$"}, {"response": 394, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (08:59)", "body": "terry, there are several tar files in the /usr/bbs directory, and probably elsewhere. you could get a little more space out of the system by moving or compressing those files too."}, {"response": 395, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (10:36)", "body": "Cool, do you have any recommendations on log file handling and archiving (to access.spring.net)? Something like: tar cf - ./games | rsh access.spring.net cd /tmp \\; tar xvBpf - (Solaris example of moving directories between machines -- we need something a little different, copying to another machine without compressing so we can grep and analyze still and restarting the log file on the source machine). Something you'd be willing to take on? I think there should be a top 50 button on every page you go to, and the cartoon is great, but I wish it were on another page than top 50 (imho), because I use it constantly now as a bookmark and I when I go to it I immediately hit page down because it is in ascending order. (descending would be better) and then I have to hit the page up key. Top 50 is an insanely great way to navigate the Spring!"}, {"response": 396, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (10:56)", "body": "there are several topics in poetry that aren't used at all, later, i'll give a warning that those topics will be retired then you can do whatever you need to clear up space."}, {"response": 397, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (11:49)", "body": "I can do the fifty to print in reverse, no problem... I just stuck the cartoon thingy there cause it fit... have written the conference fifty page, also, just haven't installed it... hopefully, I'll have them fixed and up by Sunday..."}, {"response": 398, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (17:34)", "body": "Very cool. Where did you post the dinner thing relating to Kristen. I told her about it but she couldn't find it just now."}, {"response": 399, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (21:18)", "body": "her topic in Babes..."}, {"response": 400, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (07:11)", "body": "Right, speaking of Kristen, she's our Spring birthday girl today. Bend over Kristen, we're going to give you a spanking! (twap) (twap) 26 times . . ."}, {"response": 401, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (12:33)", "body": "wer, please check out projects. Also, anyone interested in a little paying gig on our cs site, check out projects childrenstory topic (requires some understanding of webtv)."}, {"response": 402, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (19:55)", "body": "will do..."}, {"response": 403, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (07:39)", "body": "Welcome heidi and karen as hostesses of Drool!"}, {"response": 404, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (09:39)", "body": "WELCOME!!! I thought Nan was hostess all along. Is she coming to inner, or what? What is going on in there??"}, {"response": 405, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (10:14)", "body": "Evelyn Boake was the previous droolhostess. And she is passing the baton on to Heidi and Karen. I think I got Heidi spelled right that time!"}, {"response": 406, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (19:07)", "body": "Any new topic ideas anyone? Does anyone have a burning passion that would be fun to talk about? Ideas?"}, {"response": 407, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (20:23)", "body": "Java! It's my new thing to learn, and I'm rather hoping it will get me a very good job after graduation!"}, {"response": 408, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 1, 1998 (23:15)", "body": "Sure, what conference should we put it in? computer? web?"}, {"response": 409, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (09:47)", "body": "since it's really just another programming language, how about putting it in computer and linking it to web?"}, {"response": 410, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (02:17)", "body": "Sure, you want to start it, Ray? We don't have a java topic now? I'll talk to you about Java."}, {"response": 411, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (11:44)", "body": "sure!"}, {"response": 412, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 6, 1998 (09:03)", "body": "\"It's a software initiative that could decide who owns corporate desktops for the next 10 years. More vaporware from Microsoft Corp.? Hardly. This time, it's IBM Corp. taking the offensive. Indeed, IBM (NYSE:IBM) has drawn up a strategic blueprint to transform its enterprise business into an electronic-commerce powerhouse that spans millions of corporate desktops. In addition to betting the bank on Java, the blueprint calls for IBM to pump up Netscape's desktop business, head off Microsoft's Web browser and aggressively push OS/2 Warp customers onto other platforms. ... read more and comment in the computer conference topic on java. ratthang, would you mind linking this to the web conference, cause I keep going there to look for this."}, {"response": 413, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Oct 6, 1998 (09:12)", "body": "can i do that? i thought only hosts of confs could do things like that and AFAIK i dont host this conf or the web conf!"}, {"response": 414, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Oct 6, 1998 (09:20)", "body": "yeah, yeah, yeah...I'll do it..."}, {"response": 415, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 6, 1998 (21:06)", "body": "We can add you if you want, Ray."}, {"response": 416, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 6, 1998 (21:11)", "body": "wer: hahaha!!!! ray and terry: see, it worked *heehee* i see java stuff everywhere but don't understand what it means. i know it's another code and all that but what can it do? and please explain appelets to me-there is a site on the web with a picture of a wolf sitting by a body of water and the bottom half of the picture is a reflection of said wolf with ripples in the water. HOW does that work? and is it tedious?"}, {"response": 417, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (09:46)", "body": "java is a programming language developed by some engineers at sun microsystems. the big deal about java was that it was designed to operate on any computer platform, whether Windows, Unix, Mac, etc. another important aspect of Java is that it was designed to run across networks, so that the programs could transmit themselves across a network to operate and that they could also transmit information across networks. if you already know how to program in C++ or another OO language then Java is actually pretty easy to learn. Otherwise it would be daunting for a beginner to pick up. the wolf near water you are looking at is a java applet. applets are small programs that run inside of web browsers that do any cool things you want them to, all written in java."}, {"response": 418, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (12:06)", "body": "so where can i learn this stuff? is it easy to pick up like html? should i move this discussion to web????? am i asking too many questions? help!!"}, {"response": 419, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (14:15)", "body": "Sure, talk to us in web. I'm sure there's an html topic or two there. There are many resources for learning html on the web itself. Try doing a web search in http://www.infind.com and type the words html resources or html tutorial or html class and see what it brings back. What kind of system and software are you running, wolfie?"}, {"response": 420, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (16:41)", "body": "windows 95, compaq pentium. html is okay, as i learn it as i go, but the other stuff--so, i'll do the search and will probably join web. thanks!!"}, {"response": 421, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (16:45)", "body": "There's also a great book with color illustrations but I'm not at home now to pull it off the shelf. It has a yellow border and is full of good examples. Let us know what your search unveils ok? Maybe we can post some of the better instructional sites in the web conference or perhaps even make a page of links. I use FrontPage for ease of use, but for years I've mostly coded html using the simplest of text editors like Windows Notepad."}, {"response": 422, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (22:12)", "body": "i'd really like to know if a code exists to put pictures where you want them-- i.e., center them in relation to each other (if one is bigger than the one next to it) have smaller graphics sprinkled about without having to edit them into wallpaper---that kind of stuff. i tried doing it with the front page thingy i've got with this system but to no avail. will look about and let you guys know. i can't be the only one with questions!"}, {"response": 423, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (22:17)", "body": "try using dynamic HTML (DHTML). there is a DHTML editor called Astound that might be useful, wolfie. you might also try some creative use of tables or frames in regular HTML. what i would do in that situation is to simply lay the pictures out the way i want using a photo editor (e.g., PaintShop Pro) then just merging them all into one bigass gif or JPG."}, {"response": 424, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (22:42)", "body": "yeah but wouldn't that take some time to download? the page would take forever to load up! i've heard of dhtml but don't know anything about it...thanks....."}, {"response": 425, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 8, 1998 (08:33)", "body": "William, please check the projects conference for some notes about what Evelyn needs, eg. getting Heidi and Karen set up to push content. When we get a little further along, wolfie, you can have a front page enabled website here which will make it a lot easier."}, {"response": 426, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 8, 1998 (08:36)", "body": "Ree didn't check in last night!"}, {"response": 427, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (09:22)", "body": "New! Topic 55 in music: The Beatles."}, {"response": 428, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 17, 1998 (18:25)", "body": "The weather in Austin is getting out of hand. See topic 31 in the austin conference."}, {"response": 429, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (11:40)", "body": "Topic 27 in cars: car jokes Find the car you drive in the list of cars and their personalities."}, {"response": 430, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (11:19)", "body": "tv. ally mcbeal. Ally jumps on John Ritters face."}, {"response": 431, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (14:05)", "body": "Bruce Sterling Establishes \"Viridian List\" If you watch the news, you may have noticed that we Texans have had a summer of unprecedent heat and drought, followed by an autumn of unprecedented floods. I have therefore started a new, second mailing list, which will center around 21st century Green design issues. The new \"Viridian Mailing List\" seeks a historical understanding of technology, society, and their future trends, centering around the Greenhouse Effect. Unlike Dead Media, which has been very calm and scholarly, this Viridian list will probably be rather strident and opinionated. If you would like to join the Viridian List, send me email. I will send you the 6,633-word text of my recent San Francisco lecture, in which I vent some of my strong feelings on this subject. Bruce Sterling (bruces@well.com) Where can we start a topic on this? Which conference and what would the topic be called. Any suggestions?"}, {"response": 432, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Oct 22, 1998 (19:46)", "body": "hmmm...how about spirit since that is where saving the world started... or put it in cultures..."}, {"response": 433, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Oct 23, 1998 (01:26)", "body": "That sounds sensible."}, {"response": 434, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 29, 1998 (07:09)", "body": "topic 333 in apps: What are buddy lists? Read Microsofts astonishing press release. Is this the beginning of the end for ICQ? Can you find our newby from China? I hope he keeps coming back. End male topic creation dominance!"}, {"response": 435, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 29, 1998 (07:44)", "body": "y2k Talk about it in Internet 31 (internet conference topic 31). \" For those absent in byline, I'm being bombarded with vitriolic and often bizarre email about my story last week, \"Y2K: The Missionary Position.\" I'd be interested to know what folks think of the criticisms at... http://www.wired.com/news/news/wiredview/story/15875.html One person who wrote directly to me accused me of blaming Christians for the Y2K problems.\" _ Joe Nickell, Wired writer"}, {"response": 436, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 5, 1998 (14:10)", "body": "From a Ralph Nader funded mailing list that is an excerpt from a supposed Microsoft internal paper on the threat of Linux to Microsoft in the server realm. See the linux topic in the unix conference. When was the last day you visited the exciting unix conference?"}, {"response": 437, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 9, 1998 (09:18)", "body": "Topic 8 in the computer conference is about the Halloween Memorandum about how open software is a threat to Microsoft (the leaked memo) and Microsoft's response acknowledging it is not a fake. I call it the how convenient department, the best possible time for a competitor to emerge!"}, {"response": 438, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 9, 1998 (13:09)", "body": "Comics as art? Discuss in art 42!"}, {"response": 439, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 9, 1998 (13:28)", "body": "Will the real vegas please stand up? See topic 7 in the art conference about the Enigma Garden Cafe and well, read it and and comment."}, {"response": 440, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 9, 1998 (17:33)", "body": "Jesse \"the body\" Ventura, the Governor elect of Minnesota, has a very interesting spin on things. Read in topic 15 in the politics conference."}, {"response": 441, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (10:21)", "body": "techbusiness has some interesting new topics. And read about both cfp 99 and cfp 00 in the cfp conference. Glad to see Stacey checking in today, she's like sunshine!"}, {"response": 442, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (15:05)", "body": "Tantric Yoga. New topic in sex. Or call it tantric sex if you will. Have you tried it?"}, {"response": 443, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (22:17)", "body": "what the hell is it? does it sink in frigid water? (titanic pun)"}, {"response": 444, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (01:52)", "body": "ha-ha! Tantric sex is the kind of sex women practice while suffering from PMS - all to do with tantrums, you see."}, {"response": 445, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (06:21)", "body": "No not titanic sex. And not trantrum sex. *Tantric* sex. I can see you gals need an introduction. Check out the topic and then comment."}, {"response": 446, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (06:38)", "body": "Have you been following Bruce Sterlings Viridian list? It's in cultures and it's very interesting stuff. Head over there and comment!"}, {"response": 447, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (07:49)", "body": "Rumi. A linked topic I created in poetry 32 or spirit 40, take your pick."}, {"response": 448, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (12:54)", "body": "Help a striking NBA player to get that Mediterreanean cruise! See the NBA topic in sports."}, {"response": 449, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sat, Nov 21, 1998 (19:57)", "body": "there are some new response items in the science conference, pointing to different stories from the world of science. feel free to read and discuss!!!!!! i have considered doing a little on-line tutorial on quantum physics. this would consist of me making postings about quantum physics in the science conf for folks to read along with and discuss. any takers?"}, {"response": 450, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 21, 1998 (21:55)", "body": "I wish Steve Manson was still around to join you in quantum physics talk. http://www.spring.net/~boyce"}, {"response": 451, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Nov 22, 1998 (00:01)", "body": "and it harm none, do as thou will, ratthing!!!"}, {"response": 452, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Nov 22, 1998 (18:02)", "body": "i wish steve were here too. i am no expert on quantum physics by a long shot but i am learning alot about it and it is always fun to share when you are learning new stuff."}, {"response": 453, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (01:56)", "body": "I wish Steve Austin were here too."}, {"response": 454, "author": "TIM", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (03:08)", "body": "Something tells me we're not talking about Stephen f. Austin, the founder of Austin..."}, {"response": 455, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (09:57)", "body": "a man barely alive. We can rebuild him. We have the technology."}, {"response": 456, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Nov 24, 1998 (01:47)", "body": "Or in Afrikaans: Steve Austin. Ruimtevaarder. Onherkenbaar vermink. Maar ons kan weer van hom 'n mens maak. Ons beskik oor die tegnologie. Love it!"}, {"response": 457, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Nov 24, 1998 (01:47)", "body": "Happy to help with the quantum physics stuff, Ray..."}, {"response": 458, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Nov 24, 1998 (01:47)", "body": "how wonderful! you can be the reality check for everything i post."}, {"response": 459, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (00:59)", "body": "Got a call from Mahalene in Cedar Creek, and Ree's tape arrived. First chance I get, I'm going to pick it up or have someone from there bring it by. Good news, it has made the transatlantic crossing and now just has to be transported across town to the Springs vcr!"}, {"response": 460, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (01:49)", "body": "But I'm so sorry, Terry! The tape will be alright - nothing can make it more boring than it is - but your cheese!!! It's going to be pink, purple AND green by now!"}, {"response": 461, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (07:17)", "body": "That will make it tastier, right?"}, {"response": 462, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (01:26)", "body": "I don't know! I hope so - I just don't want you sickened at the sight!"}, {"response": 463, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (07:59)", "body": "I've been peppering the Spring with all kinds of cool things today. Go check 'em out. In web, internet, and lotsa other places. And you do the same, post some cool stuff around the Spring. And read topic 51 in this conference and invite some more cool folks to join us. We're gonna make it happen here! Gonna do it!!! You with me?"}, {"response": 464, "author": "TIM", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (09:20)", "body": "Sure!!"}, {"response": 465, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (11:33)", "body": "Yes, Dad!"}, {"response": 466, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (00:56)", "body": "Yes, Master Claw!"}, {"response": 467, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (06:26)", "body": "Man was I hyped when I wrote that, exsqueeze moi."}, {"response": 468, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (06:51)", "body": "Hey, the Ree Ree video is here and we should be playing it soon. Went out to the Creek house yesterday and picked it up. Haven't tried the cheese yet, but it looked fine. We can pick off the mold around the edges! Tim got a juicy looking package too. Thanks a bunch Ree! You'll be playing on spring.net soon."}, {"response": 469, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (17:06)", "body": "what's the latest on Ree-Vision??"}, {"response": 470, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (17:08)", "body": "there are some new topics in the SCIENCE topic. i have broken down the Science in the news topic into specific areas, such as physics, biology, etc. check em out and post away!"}, {"response": 471, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (19:55)", "body": ""}, {"response": 472, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (21:45)", "body": ""}, {"response": 473, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (21:52)", "body": ""}, {"response": 474, "author": "TIM", "date": "Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (23:35)", "body": ""}, {"response": 475, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Dec 4, 1998 (14:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 476, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 4, 1998 (14:29)", "body": ""}, {"response": 477, "author": "TIM", "date": "Sun, Dec 6, 1998 (14:24)", "body": "!!"}, {"response": 478, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Dec 6, 1998 (16:03)", "body": ""}, {"response": 479, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Jan 9, 1999 (00:53)", "body": "okay... anyway, there's a Spring cookbook topic going on in the food conf, and everybody should go check out the collecting conference, as well..."}, {"response": 480, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (09:15)", "body": "Horoscope, here and in spirit now. Since it vaporized from genx. heh."}, {"response": 481, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (09:18)", "body": "What do you want to talk about today. Topic 56. It's going to be a question posed on our main http://www.spring.net page, which is due for a makeover don't you think?"}, {"response": 482, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jan 12, 1999 (21:06)", "body": "yep...if I only had the time and the access..."}, {"response": 483, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (06:16)", "body": "One of those is easy to fix."}, {"response": 484, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 13, 1999 (14:51)", "body": "true"}, {"response": 485, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (07:55)", "body": "Thanks to a very kind benefactor, http://www.austen.com is back online today. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you."}, {"response": 486, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:08)", "body": "Thank you."}, {"response": 487, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:19)", "body": "Well, almost online, the domain name got paid for another year ($35), part of a $150 donation and Internic is churning it's wheels to get the site relisted. It just gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling to have supporters like these!"}, {"response": 488, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:21)", "body": "yes it does!"}, {"response": 489, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:46)", "body": "Jon Lebkowsky's latest cyberdawg rantings, actually his top ten list for the year is in the Internet conference. Jon is a local writer and Internet maven at Whole Foods."}, {"response": 490, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (09:55)", "body": "Read Gary Chapman's latest column in the cfp conference."}, {"response": 491, "author": "wer", "date": "Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (23:17)", "body": ""}, {"response": 492, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "Topic 2 in vc (virtual community) is about a Salan Magazine article about eh use and misue of the word \"community\", comment on how this relates to the Spring if you like in this topic."}, {"response": 493, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (14:02)", "body": "Someone on the Spring earlier we talked about the Yapp manual in Postscript format. Well, I just noticed an ad on my table that Daniel left about some software that creates PDF files. It's called EZ-PDF and there may be a demo version at http://www.acquiredknowledge.com This may enable Ray to convert that Postscript file to PDF format so William and I can read it. Now, what topic and conference did we discuss this earlier? Their ad says \"Now you don't have to be a rocket scientist to confiture Acrobat Distiller correctly. Of course, since Ray is a rocket scientist of sorts, he may not need this and may be able to make Distiller work."}, {"response": 494, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (21:49)", "body": "It's was in the making VC's pay (not verbatim on the title) topic in vc..."}, {"response": 495, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (22:40)", "body": "now if i just *had* distiller!"}, {"response": 496, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (06:46)", "body": "Distiller is payware? Ooops."}, {"response": 497, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 5, 1999 (07:35)", "body": "Roan Carratu has some very interesting observations on \"why the Farm failed\" in the farm conference. Please encourage Roan to explore other nooks and crannies of our virtual community, he being quite the communitarian to begin with!"}, {"response": 498, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (00:54)", "body": "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Want to make a little extra cash. Get yourself a Schwab, Etrade or Suretrade account and read Laura's Internet Stock Report in the techbusiness or internet conferences. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"}, {"response": 499, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Feb 7, 1999 (12:30)", "body": "that's one of those Catch 22 things with me... gotta have money to make money..."}, {"response": 500, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (19:31)", "body": "like spending money to save money..."}, {"response": 501, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (19:38)", "body": "and she grabbed response #500!"}, {"response": 502, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (19:43)", "body": "woohoo!"}, {"response": 503, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (20:49)", "body": "The Forbes open letter to the hacking community is in the internet conference hacking topic. It's getting too quiet around here! Hope folks come back out of the woodwork soon!"}, {"response": 504, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (09:01)", "body": "The Oscar nominatations are out and you can see them in the movies topic. Discuss."}, {"response": 505, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (14:47)", "body": "Free PC? Don't laugh. A company's giving away PCs. Read about it in techbusiness"}, {"response": 506, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (15:22)", "body": "there is a catch....don't remember what it is but it was on the news last night!"}, {"response": 507, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (21:30)", "body": "but, Wolf, the first hit is always free..."}, {"response": 508, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 10, 1999 (06:39)", "body": "It's at http://www.free-pc.com . It's not a joke, the \"catch\" is that you have to use it 5 hours a week and you have to view their commercials. But it's a Compaq, so it's a decent pc. And it's free. And how are they going to enforce this is anyone's guess."}, {"response": 509, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (18:59)", "body": "Ray, please see projects conf."}, {"response": 510, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (12:23)", "body": "Check out http://www.spring.net/capzeyez for details of the Spring's Saturday night webcast. This is a fun music show."}, {"response": 511, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (21:27)", "body": "When (and how) did this come about?"}, {"response": 512, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (21:31)", "body": "I stayed up after Saturday Night Live one night and switched to channel 10. It was a pretty cool music show so I called in and asked them if they wante dto be webcast. Week after next I'll be on as co-host. they're plugging the Spring big time on their website and show. They were voted the top music show in Austin by the Chron, beating out even Austin City Limits. I more or less stubled in to it."}, {"response": 513, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (21:34)", "body": "I know who they is...been watching on and off for five years or so..."}, {"response": 514, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Feb 15, 1999 (21:37)", "body": "cool beans!"}, {"response": 515, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 16, 1999 (08:07)", "body": "We have yet to have the first call in from someone watching and listening on the web. I hope it happens this Saturday night."}, {"response": 516, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (10:56)", "body": "Straw houses and cob houses. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/home/2"}, {"response": 517, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:41)", "body": "Ray set up http://www.photobooth.com and, thanks to an alliance, there's some cool stuff there. Ever step in to one of those photo booths like at Amy's Ice Cream, you 'll find that and other photo booths around the country listed here. I'd like to do a \"cyber\" photo booth at SXSW. If I can only find the time and $$$. The domain name thespring.com is being sold to help pay some Spring bills and help keep us running, but keep the donations coming in, they really help. I'll be cohost weekend after this one on the Saturday Midnight live music program that we webcast along with Dean Truitt, the host. Tune in and call in!!!! http://www.spring.net/capzeyez will get you the call in phone number and details about this program. The call in number is 512-472-2255! Watch and listen on the web and call in!"}, {"response": 518, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:43)", "body": "The email I got from Dean Truitt: From: DaveSpice Organization: none today Sounds great!! I will get on some new links very soon. Let's look at the first Saturday in March as co-host. Does that work for you? We have to stay away from direct commercial-type references. For instance, pretty much we can't say action verbs - \"come\" \"get\" \"look\" etc... Just think of ways to get around those words. Thanks again, we'll talk to ya soon..."}, {"response": 519, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:53)", "body": "terry, i think it'd be neat to open up a conference for the paranormal (you know, e.t., esp, clairvoyance, etc.). it may bring some interesting people and theories. watcha think? (oh, and is there a way to alphabetize the conference list?)"}, {"response": 520, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (15:34)", "body": "Can we do this in the 'spirit' conference or is that too broad?"}, {"response": 521, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (16:11)", "body": "i think paranormal needs it's own conf. i considered spirit but that seems to be more religion based (whether it's buddhism, etc.). paranormal is something else alltogether. i'll host it until we find someone else willing. of course, i don't want it to become the satanists panel, because that isn't what the paranormal is about. wiccan is spirit stuff. but ghosts, aliens, etc. are more on the paranormal realm than spirit."}, {"response": 522, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:01)", "body": "yes, Wolf, you can alphabetize your own list manually... I'll go look up the link to the right page shortly... as to your paranormal conf, would that include esotericism, too? (think we should call the conf paraspring ...)"}, {"response": 523, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:17)", "body": "guesso, don't know what that is though. (thanks in advance for helping me with the organization of the conference list)"}, {"response": 524, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:21)", "body": "click below, Wolfie, and you can re-organize 'em howsoever you wants... http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/changelist"}, {"response": 525, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:50)", "body": "since you are already setting up topics in there, Wolf, I guess you found your paranormal conf, http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/paraspring/all"}, {"response": 526, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:54)", "body": "yup, thanks *hug*"}, {"response": 527, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:56)", "body": "eerie, isn't it?"}, {"response": 528, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:56)", "body": "indeed!"}, {"response": 529, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (22:13)", "body": "and inspirit!"}, {"response": 530, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (07:14)", "body": "Way to go wolfie!"}, {"response": 531, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (11:09)", "body": "and here's the official announcement of the opening of Paraspring , a place to discuss the paranormal. see ya there!!"}, {"response": 532, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (11:13)", "body": "ok, the hyperlink will take you to an error screen, BUT, you can get to the conference by clicking on the hyperlink at the bottom of that screen *sorry*"}, {"response": 533, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:25)", "body": "and with the recent flash into 2036, you may just want to http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/paraspring/all/since/-1"}, {"response": 534, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (20:07)", "body": "t'anks....."}, {"response": 535, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 4, 1999 (06:46)", "body": "Bob Nagy and I will be co hosting the Capzeyez show this Saturday night at midnight on Channel 10 in Austin. Tune in and call in! Check out http://www.spring.net/capazeyez and also join the discussion in the capzeyez topics in the music and austin conferences. Call in and talk up the Spring, and get your friends to call in as well! Or email me your number and I'll call you from the show."}, {"response": 536, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Mar 27, 1999 (13:27)", "body": "Everybody welcome Alexander as a host in the music conference!!! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/music/all or, for those not registered, http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/music/all"}, {"response": 537, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (12:04)", "body": "Watch out for Melissa, the virus. Details in the computer conference. This is the most virulent computer virus ever. Watch out for emails that say \"Important message from xxx\" It could send out a list of porn sites to 50 of your friends in your Outlook Email address list."}, {"response": 538, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (13:02)", "body": "How's Melissa look like, Terry? Might be worth the trouble..."}, {"response": 539, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (13:11)", "body": "Excuse me, everybody, but Wer made me a HOST fer Pete's sake! Give him a talking to, please, for rushing me, and please also some host tell me something about hosting on the Spring - like what snacks, what drinks, and who not to seat with whom... I got no clue, but found some check boxes I now could twiddle around with, also it says \"You're a host\", and I got two new kool buttons - kill and retire, which is fine with me. Always wanted to tell 'em, and wanted to make it to retirement in more or less one piece, too!"}, {"response": 540, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (22:09)", "body": "don't seat me next to anyone..."}, {"response": 541, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (22:50)", "body": "Wer talked Alexander into hosting the music conference! (*guffaw*) Attaboy, wer!"}, {"response": 542, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (23:13)", "body": "hehe...now, back to you and your conference..."}, {"response": 543, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Mar 29, 1999 (23:42)", "body": "and, to everyone, I'm re-doing some of the web layouts on here, so if I do something you don't like, please let me know!!!"}, {"response": 544, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (10:24)", "body": "That's great! Can you you put the last 5 or 10 responses on the main spring page? (/var/www/docs/index.html is the main page) This is something I've been wanting to do for a long time. I know that the executable is in /usr/bbs/www/cgi-bin/restricted"}, {"response": 545, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (17:54)", "body": "I'll look and see..."}, {"response": 546, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (02:06)", "body": "Wow, you guys promote fast around here! \"Put the last x responses\" on index.html! MY name there with the stars! Oh, Wer, I'm not sure I like the \"Post It!\" button, should read \"Submit!\" because that's what we really want, right? (Hi Autumn! How are you?)"}, {"response": 547, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (08:53)", "body": "Amy needs help. See my email to you and to Ray, wer. She's a special person around here since she helped so much with the design and in getting the fan folks happening here. Anyone want to help put together a www.suzyamis.com site for fun? You could get help from the folks at drool, who already volunteered. That's amyloo@bluemarble.net . . . let's give her a hand! I asked if you or Ray would fix her account and do some other things for her."}, {"response": 548, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (09:46)", "body": "Guten tag, Alexander!"}, {"response": 549, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (00:36)", "body": "ummm...I didn't get the e-mail, Terry... (I hope my mail isn't getting bounced again...) And, you're right, Alexander, all I want is for you to submit...*wink* (and a few others around here, I might add...)"}, {"response": 550, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (08:06)", "body": "I'll forward it again. Or better, here it is: Hi Terry. I don't seem to be able to get onto access with my old account. I wonder if you could re-instate me. Pick any password you like. And thanks again, for letting us keep our old P&P board archives there. I think they're rarely accessed but nice to have. Just let us know if you ever want to dump them. I wonder if you are still needing income and might be willing to let me use Spring for a guinea pig. I want to try out some web ad rep firms for a site at work, but university bureaucracy is so cumbersome about suppliers it's hard to just try people without bidding, and sometimes hard to fire them, too. (I don't know if you knew, I've been webmaster for the Indiana University Alumni Association for about a year now.) Anyway, I was thinking of auditioning two rep firms: Burst, which lets sites go on month-to-month contracts for a 50% commission; and FlyCast, the apparent leader, which requires a site or sites with at least 100k hits a month. If you would be willing to allow it, I would sign up for the services but have you sign the contracts. I'd do all the arrangements for ads for a period of six months without compensation. I just want to learn how it works. You'd also want to make the decisions, of course, about which of your Yapp conferences or the \"free-hosted\" sites you'd want to put ads on. Let me know. (I gave her a resounding \"yes\" answer to the query about the ad rep firms)."}, {"response": 551, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (09:02)", "body": "I'll grab a book and see what I can do..."}, {"response": 552, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (10:40)", "body": "terry, i did not get your email either. but i have a pretty long list of things i need to do for the spring and would be glad to offer my help. we really need to coordinate as to what specific tasks need to get done."}, {"response": 553, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (16:08)", "body": "completely off topic... there's a new conf called today http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/today/all where I am attempting to gather all the today topics scattered throughout the other conferences... (omitting some conf's, of course...)"}, {"response": 554, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (18:08)", "body": "what, wer, you don't want to sit next to the ole wolfie? you know i don't bite! congrats to alex-hosting is kewl! hey, just a minute ago it was submit, now it's respond? well, which one is it wer? *wink*"}, {"response": 555, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (18:11)", "body": "oh, and wer, sweetie, couldja add paranormal today to your today conference? i tried but got an internal server error (whatever the heck that means)......thanks! *lick*"}, {"response": 556, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 1, 1999 (20:28)", "body": "yep..."}, {"response": 557, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 2, 1999 (08:11)", "body": "Best summation yet on the Melissa virus in either the software or computer conferences."}, {"response": 558, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 2, 1999 (12:28)", "body": "while confusion runs rampant elsewhere on the spring..."}, {"response": 559, "author": "amy", "date": "Sat, Apr 3, 1999 (09:01)", "body": "Hey Terry, everyone. Terry, I guess you e-mail was not reaching anybody that day last week; I never saw your \"resounding yes\". Still have a copy in your outbox? First, I guess you need to decide which conferences or site you want to put ads on, since the sign-up process needs specific URLs. This will be interesting."}, {"response": 560, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 3, 1999 (11:53)", "body": "Hey, Amy! What size ads/banners? Just asking because Terry will probably have me work with you on placing the ads...I know for certain you can put ads up in food, restaurant, porch, news, today, collecting, books, and music... when you sign up, use www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/ followed by conference name, in case you didn't know, so that they can verify the ads and such without being registered..."}, {"response": 561, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 3, 1999 (12:07)", "body": "or, we could put up a store/banner page that we can link to from main and/or the index page..."}, {"response": 562, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 3, 1999 (12:10)", "body": "and, how do the folks over in drool feel about ads and other stuff? I am always wondering how my changes are viewed by them..."}, {"response": 563, "author": "amy", "date": "Sat, Apr 3, 1999 (13:14)", "body": "wer, sent you e-mail. re: the conference /browse directories -- because lurkers overbalance posters, right. In a way it would be nice to only have ads for the lurkers, who don't contribute to the community by posting, but I don't guess there is a way to do that, since everybody sees the same Yapp header files."}, {"response": 564, "author": "amy", "date": "Sat, Apr 3, 1999 (13:16)", "body": "wer, your Juno inbox is jammed."}, {"response": 565, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Sat, Apr 3, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "you can get around that, but that would assume that all lurkers lurked through public instead of restricted...the headers can be set differently for each...sent you an e-mail with the usable e-mail address..."}, {"response": 566, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Jul 10, 1999 (14:48)", "body": "everyone go and check out the new Geo conference, headed up by...*drum roll*...Marcia! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/Geo/all"}, {"response": 567, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 17, 1999 (09:38)", "body": "John F. Kennedy Jr. is missing. He took off with his wife Caroline to attend a Kennedy family wedding last night in a small plane. Follow the events in news 30 and pray that JFK Jr. is ok."}, {"response": 568, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 7, 1999 (09:14)", "body": "Whether you like boxing or not, John Burnett (former boxer himself) gives an explanation of what the cornerman does that is gripping in it's details and insight. If you've ever wondered what goes on in the corner of boxing ring, this is the place to find out. A very, very good read."}, {"response": 569, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 7, 1999 (09:55)", "body": "In the web conference, a cool site where you can find *everything*, inclusind thousands of recipes. A site you will most like bookmark forever."}, {"response": 570, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 7, 1999 (10:15)", "body": "Help the Wild One bob win $1,000 in a contest. Vote for his idea at http://ssl.adhost.com/icomamerica/contest/contest.cfm See the topic in the radio conference."}, {"response": 571, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 1, 1999 (20:30)", "body": "Here's my intro to the newest topic in the news conference. Have you read about the scheme to market the eggs of drop-dead gorgeous babes on the web? Supermodel eggs! They ain't cheap, babe. The minimum bid one model set is $50 grand. What are the pros and cons of this? Is it ethical? Would you sell one of your eggs (sorry guys)? And if you would, what price do you think it would fetch? Do brains count at all? Or just looks? And what will the offspring be like? Will they pop outa the womb with silicon implants in place already? And capped teach and windblown hair? And what's the next logical step? Why, I'll answer that. A night with the supermodel herself. And, as someone says, will the supermodel babies grow up and sport bumper stickers on their cars that say: \"My other Mom is a Supermodel\""}, {"response": 572, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Nov 1, 1999 (22:36)", "body": "Terry, this is sick. Brains had better count or we are well on our way to third world status. The mind is the most enticing and enchanting part of the human animal...we must not substitute fleeting beauty for long term character and intellect. This is insane!"}, {"response": 573, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 9, 1999 (08:43)", "body": "Please comment on the poems of Dorothy, the newest topic in poetry. She says she'll post more poems if she gets feedback! So please give her some."}, {"response": 574, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 9, 1999 (12:18)", "body": "Off I go to do just that. Thanks for the reminder."}, {"response": 575, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 9, 1999 (21:53)", "body": "Thank you!"}, {"response": 576, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 9, 1999 (22:47)", "body": "My pleasure! I hope she post more and more. Very interesting lady...!"}, {"response": 577, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (08:28)", "body": "I created a new topic in the Farm conference called Farm Net News, Karen Flaherty just sent her the first issue she sturggled to put together and I've got some comments on it and will be commenting more over the next few days. Even if you're not an old Farmie, some of the things the Farm did and are doing still are a fascinating bit of history. \"I stayed at the Bionics Women's Cooperative and Guesthouse, which as room enough for a dozen people with a small kitchen and bathroom. Resting in the hammock out the back porch, I thought about the people I'd met, and while gazing at gorgeous views down the mountains to the ocean, coconut palms swaying as seabreeze brings the afteroon rain, I could hear a mucical mosaic of drums, reggae radio, children singing and strains of Cher's latest song\" \".. if you beleive in love .. in love \" .. It was a wonderful blend of the sounds and spirit that emanate from Dominica, and reinforced the sense of being in a special place at a time with great potential for preservation, before globalization gobbles it up.\" - Karen"}, {"response": 578, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (12:08)", "body": "By coincidence I added it to my hot list last night. I'll have to check!"}, {"response": 579, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (09:36)", "body": "Did you check it out?"}, {"response": 580, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (04:08)", "body": "I got inspired by a visit to http://www.girlson.com to add a few more tv shows $ 44 4 top tv actors 45 2 tv websites for listings and reviews 46 0 Buffy the Vampire Slayer 47 0 Charmed 48 0 Dawson's Creek 49 0 Dharma and Greg 50 0 ER 51 0 Friends I quote a few reviews from the fabulous girlson site. And I'm cogitating on ramping up the Spring's own http://www.tvreviewer.com . ."}, {"response": 581, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (12:45)", "body": "and when you have a minute, perhaps a crafts conference? *grin and hugs*"}, {"response": 582, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (15:17)", "body": "Oooh...Yes, Please!!!"}, {"response": 583, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (15:27)", "body": "Sure, I'm just rusty on conf creation."}, {"response": 584, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (15:43)", "body": "Get the resident creative HTML-person to do it - we'll wait til he has time. Make Wolfie and Me the hosts (crafters?)"}, {"response": 585, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Mar 4, 2000 (15:43)", "body": "Y'know, the one who created Geo...."}, {"response": 586, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Mar 5, 2000 (16:43)", "body": "thanks! porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 80, "subject": "Comments on new server move", "response_count": 15, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 26, 2001 (09:35)", "body": "sigh - now if I could only Telnet post. I can read, access and all the rest. What am I doing wrong???"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 26, 2001 (09:40)", "body": "[81/81] Respond, forget, or pass? r Type \".\" to exit or \":help\". Got error 13 (Permission denied) in opening /home/users/marci/cf.buffer Enter your response: Abort response? \"\" is invalid. Try yes or no. Abort response? no Ok to enter this response? yes Got error 2 (No such file or directory) in opening /home/users/marci/cf.buffer The file cf.buffer doesn't seem to exist."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 26, 2001 (10:12)", "body": "This seems to be my first problem which shows up: Ok: Cannot access /home/sprin5/virtual_html/bbs/menu/main"}, {"response": 4, "author": "admin", "date": "Fri, Apr 27, 2001 (01:20)", "body": "I'm working on getting things to work here, the cause of these problems is probably me moving the user directory to /usr/user instead of /usr/home/users/ where it was. You must have posted those on the web interface. I'm working on it, in conjunction with Kaylene. I asked her to help get the \"last 50\" working on the new system."}, {"response": 5, "author": "marci", "date": "Fri, Apr 27, 2001 (04:57)", "body": "Let's try again. If this gpes through you will know we succeeded."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 28, 2001 (11:15)", "body": "Terry where did you post? This works most excellently."}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, May 1, 2001 (14:00)", "body": "terry, i've got a question....i received the notifications for my domain's move to spring's new server but when i try to go to it, i go straight to the spring. is this a common problem with all the domain's the spring hosts?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 2, 2001 (06:56)", "body": "Yes, and it's being worked on now!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, May 2, 2001 (12:49)", "body": "thanks so much!!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 21, 2001 (08:23)", "body": "I just set the time for CST again, but it seems to keep reverting to GMT, I've got to dig in to this and find out how to make my time changes stick."}, {"response": 11, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, May 21, 2001 (08:45)", "body": "OK, that would account for it. I forgot that GMT always remains GMT and isn't affected by the summer advance."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, May 21, 2001 (10:38)", "body": "I'm working on getting http://www.firth.com and http://www.colinfirth.com working again, I don't think they're working right now because of the name server change, but I'm aware of it and trying to get it fixed. It may not be until tomorrow. I've got 17 sites working, and 30 or so to fix so they'll work with the new name servers."}, {"response": 13, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Jun 15, 2001 (21:40)", "body": "Looks like firth.com isn't up anymore. I've been told it hasn't been accessible for three days now."}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 15, 2001 (22:07)", "body": "I still cannot find my new ftps on the net. I assume you are still tweaking?"}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jun 16, 2001 (01:21)", "body": "This is the first I've heard of that, I'll fix it asap! porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 81, "subject": "stats", "response_count": 48, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 23, 2001 (07:56)", "body": "heheh...i create a test topic and don't even spell it right!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "admin", "date": "Wed, Apr 25, 2001 (05:55)", "body": "s'ok."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 26, 2001 (08:10)", "body": "We understand. Now if only I could Telenet I can login, get the place to respond and get to the end - it aborts everything I try to enter there with some bunch onf numerical dislaimers. Got error 2 (No such file or directory) in opening /home/users/marci/cf.buffer The file cf.buffer doesn't seem to exist. [1/45] Respond, forget, or pass? r Type \".\" to exit or \":help\". Got error 13 (Permission denied) in opening /home/users/marci/cf.buffer Enter your response: Abort response? no Response aborted! Returning to current item. [1/45] Respond, forget, or pass? r Type \".\" to exit or \":help\". Got error 13 (Permission denied) in opening /home/users/marci/cf.buffer Enter your response: Abort response? no Ok to enter this response? y Got error 2 (No such file or directory) in opening /home/users/marci/cf.buffer The file cf.buffer doesn't seem to exist. HELP!!!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "admin", "date": "Fri, Apr 27, 2001 (00:20)", "body": "test."}, {"response": 5, "author": "marci", "date": "Fri, Apr 27, 2001 (03:59)", "body": "Terry, You did it. Mahalo Nui Loa and *HUGS* for correcting whatever was wrong at that end. It is so good to telnet again. Lousy graphics, but heck, it is so much faster. Happy me! /\\~~~ whose other name is Kilauea."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 28, 2001 (10:14)", "body": "Better and better... I the latest IP is working and all is in order as far as I can tell other than the confifty sites."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (06:21)", "body": "Kaylene's looking at the lastfifty, 333 and 500, etc. I did a little work on it just now but to no avail. That would be nice to have again. Glitches! They always happen."}, {"response": 8, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (19:11)", "body": "It's a hell of an achievement to get everything else working - mucho kudos to you!!!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, May 2, 2001 (05:56)", "body": "We've still got work to do, see wolfies comment in topic 80."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 11, 2001 (03:29)", "body": "Hey, Mike, I changed the title of your topic from tset to stats so I have a place to post some stats, is that ok? Didn't think you'd mind. This is a place where I can post urls to statistics on our website. Like http://www.spring.net/webtrends"}, {"response": 11, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, May 11, 2001 (11:02)", "body": "That's fine - tset was a typo anyway :-) I don't think there can be anything worse, in conference-land, than spelling a topic incorrectly ;-)"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 11, 2001 (14:38)", "body": "It's fixable thought!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jun 9, 2001 (13:23)", "body": "All new stats generated 6/8/2001 04/19/2001 00:00:00 - 06/08/2001 23:59:59 Friday June 08, 2001 - 14:09:59 General Statistics Help The Visits graph displays the overall number of visits to your Web site. The General Statistics table provides an overview of the activity for your Web site during the specified time frame. General Statistics Hits Entire Site (Successful) 4,492,936 Average Per Day 88,096 Home Page 18,689 Page Views Page Views (Impressions) 471,694 Average Per Day 9,248 Document Views 467,786 Visits Visits 288,073 Average Per Day 5,648 Average Visit Length 00:12:48 Median Visit Length 00:04:07 International Visits 0% Visits of Unknown Origin 100% Visits from United States 0% Visitors Unique Visitors 102,704 Visitors Who Visited Once 87,018 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 15,686 General Statistics - Help Card Average Hits Per Day - Number of successful hits divided by the total number of days in the log. Average Page Views Per Day - Number of page views divided by the total number of days in the log. Average Visits Per Day - Number of visits divided by the total number of days in the log. Average Visit Length - Average of non-zero length visits in the log. Hit - A single action on the Web server as it appears in the log file. A visitor downloading a single file is logged as a single hit, while a visitor requesting a Web page including two images registers as three hits on the server; one hit is the request for the .html page, and two additional hits are requests for the downloaded image files. While the volume of hits is an indicator of Web server traffic, it is not an accurate reflection of how many pages are being looked at. Hits: Entire Site (Successful) - Number of hits that had a \"success\" status code. International Visits - Percentage of visitors defined as \"international\" in Domain Options. Home Page Hits - Number of times your home page was visited. Median Visit Length - Median of non-zero length visits in the log. Half the visit lengths are longer than the median, and half are shorter. This number is often closer to the \"typical\" visit length than the average visit length. Numbers that are wildly atypical can skew the average, but will not skew the median so much. Page - Any document, dynamic page, or form. Documents are user-defined in Options, but typically include all static content, such as complete html pages. Dynamic pages are created with variables and do not exist anywhere in a static form. Forms are scripted pages which get information from a visitor and pass it back to the server. Page Views - Hits to files designated as pages. Supporting graphics and other non-page files are not counted. Page Views: Document Views - Hits to pages that are defined as documents. This entry excludes hits to dynamic pages and forms. Unique Visitors- Individuals who visited your site during the report period. If someone visits more than once, they are counted only the first time they visit. Visits - Number of times a visitor came to your site. If a visitor is idle longer than the idle-time limit, WebTrends assumes the visit was voluntarily terminated. If the visitor continues to browse your site after they reach the idle-time limit, a new visit is counted. The default idle-time limit is thirty minutes. Visits from the United States - Percentage of visitors from the United States. Visits of Unknown Origin - Percentage of visitors from an origin that could not be determined. Visitors Who Visited More Than Once - Number of individual visitors who appear more than once in the log file. Individuals can be tracked by IP addresses, domain names, and cookies. Cookies provide the most accurate count. Visitors Who Visited Once - Number of individual visitors who appear only once in the log file. Individuals can be tracked by IP addresses, domain names, and cookies. Cookies provide the most accurate count."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jun 9, 2001 (13:24)", "body": "http://www.spring.net/webtrends I'll be posted a new report on our top 500 users on Monday."}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jun 9, 2001 (20:39)", "body": "Oh dear, I'll bet my name shows up on that one..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 11, 2001 (08:26)", "body": "The top users stats are in. http://www.spring.net/webtrends/sp4/DEFAULT_03_b.HTM#VisitorTrackingtc 279 folks accounted for over 9,000 of our \"visits\" to the site or 56,000 of our 4 million hits in the past month. I came in at 50th! amw narrowly edged out kolin and KarenR for the most visits. The top 21: Top Authenticated Visitors Visitor Hits % of Total Hits Visits 1 amw 1,658 2.91% 382 2 kolin 1,478 2.59% 373 3 KarenR 2,897 5.09% 358 4 lizbeth54 1,528 2.68% 266 5 Carola 1,097 1.92% 247 6 farbarb 1,639 2.88% 243 7 LisaJH 2,397 4.21% 239 8 CathyW 1,124 1.97% 230 9 Allison2 1,143 2.01% 229 10 sarahmccoy 1,053 1.85% 229 11 scooter 745 1.31% 214 12 MarciaH 2,170 3.81% 195 13 lg 307 0.53% 192 14 zoester 1,866 3.28% 179 15 Lora 1,982 3.48% 166 16 luann 214 0.37% 156 17 Lassie 990 1.74% 148 18 Tineke 503 0.88% 145 19 LauraT 1,299 2.28% 133 20 lafn 1,305 2.29% 132 21 mpiatt 999 1.75% 129 (Renate was 22nd)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (08:49)", "body": "Our stats for June 2001 http://www.spring.net/webtrends/sp0106/ General Statistics Hits Entire Site (Successful) 2,372,519 Average Per Day 79,083 Home Page 3,785 Page Views Page Views (Impressions) 416,168 Average Per Day 13,872 Document Views 414,000 Visits Visits 167,243 Average Per Day 5,574 Average Visit Length 00:29:27 Median Visit Length 00:04:10 International Visits 0% Visits of Unknown Origin 100% Visits from United States 0% Visitors Unique Visitors 60,075 Visitors Who Visited Once 50,515 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 9,560"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (08:50)", "body": "Top Authenticated Visitors Visitor Hits % of Total Hits Visits 1 karenn 981 2.8% 309 2 KarenR 1,891 5.41% 259 3 scooter 820 2.34% 245 4 kolin 894 2.56% 244 5 amw 870 2.49% 242 6 MarciaH 2,689 7.7% 207 7 luann 217 0.62% 164 8 lizbeth54 796 2.27% 158 9 Lora 1,524 4.36% 145 10 farbarb 938 2.68% 138 11 Allison2 550 1.57% 134 12 Moon 690 1.97% 120 13 lafn 951 2.72% 108 14 toyce 726 2.07% 104 15 Tineke 331 0.94% 99 16 lg 154 0.44% 95 17 zoester 1,279 3.66% 91 18 CathyW 470 1.34% 89 19 LauraT 708 2.02% 86 20 Lassie 555 1.58% 84 Total 18,034 51.65% 3,121"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (08:51)", "body": "Summary of Activity by Time Increment Time Interval Hits Page Views Kbytes Visits Fri 06/01/2001 84,266 9,278 873,459 K 5,630 Sat 06/02/2001 59,971 7,579 586,937 K 5,001 Sun 06/03/2001 68,688 7,341 658,469 K 5,319 Mon 06/04/2001 88,714 8,864 872,716 K 6,445 Tue 06/05/2001 88,255 9,586 931,941 K 6,324 Wed 06/06/2001 85,179 9,339 819,542 K 5,922 Thu 06/07/2001 83,593 9,563 793,891 K 5,773 Fri 06/08/2001 84,128 11,482 809,801 K 5,554 Sat 06/09/2001 68,026 18,574 563,663 K 4,928 Sun 06/10/2001 86,882 26,045 657,175 K 5,090 Mon 06/11/2001 109,623 28,296 949,214 K 6,500 Tue 06/12/2001 98,244 28,183 887,318 K 5,580 Wed 06/13/2001 89,559 25,534 930,287 K 5,471 Thu 06/14/2001 88,675 25,214 854,743 K 5,470 Fri 06/15/2001 80,063 23,596 762,412 K 4,919 Sat 06/16/2001 67,468 19,211 612,427 K 4,535 Sun 06/17/2001 77,624 18,793 652,009 K 4,877 Mon 06/18/2001 105,820 19,767 1,010,564 K 6,548 Tue 06/19/2001 83,955 9,018 884,998 K 6,078 Wed 06/20/2001 75,662 8,460 799,916 K 5,820 Thu 06/21/2001 87,428 12,425 964,054 K 6,122 Fri 06/22/2001 81,390 10,368 839,444 K 5,976 Sat 06/23/2001 60,352 8,933 568,509 K 4,854 Sun 06/24/2001 46,825 6,906 512,215 K 4,768 Mon 06/25/2001 78,436 9,049 784,199 K 6,316 Tue 06/26/2001 76,264 9,633 773,204 K 5,931 Wed 06/27/2001 74,283 9,954 761,277 K 5,688 Thu 06/28/2001 78,454 11,954 849,763 K 5,864 Fri 06/29/2001 69,524 8,336 662,314 K 5,420 Sat 06/30/2001 45,168 4,887 449,356 K 4,520 Total 2,372,519 416,168 23,075,817 K 167,243"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (08:53)", "body": "Conference logins per day Fri Jun 1: 5891 Sat Jun 2: 3646 Sun Jun 3: 3551 Mon Jun 4: 4458 Tue Jun 5: 5386 Wed Jun 6: 4219 Thu Jun 7: 3955 Fri Jun 8: 4780 Sat Jun 9: 4020 Sun Jun 10: 4333 Mon Jun 11: 5268 Tue Jun 12: 5879 Wed Jun 13: 5043 Thu Jun 14: 5265 Fri Jun 15: 4942 Sat Jun 16: 4072 Sun Jun 17: 3260 Mon Jun 18: 5304 Tue Jun 19: 4358 Wed Jun 20: 4036 Thu Jun 21: 6089 Fri Jun 22: 7064 Sat Jun 23: 4497 Sun Jun 24: 3673 Mon Jun 25: 4598 Tue Jun 26: 4623 Wed Jun 27: 5733 Thu Jun 28: 6502 Fri Jun 29: 5782 Sat Jun 30: 3051"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (08:54)", "body": "Top Search Engines Engines Searches % of Total 1 Yahoo 10,591 56.22% 2 Google 2,976 15.79% 3 Microsoft Network 1,985 10.53% 4 AltaVista 1,026 5.44% 5 Netscape 864 4.58% 6 Excite 333 1.76% 7 Lycos 299 1.58% 8 HotBot 182 0.96% 9 All The Web 176 0.93% 10 Northern Light 77 0.4% 11 GoTo 69 0.36% 12 dogpile 61 0.32% 13 Evreka 56 0.29% 14 metacrawler 43 0.22% 15 AOL NetFind 29 0.15% 16 Look Smart 12 0.06% 17 CompuServe 9 0.04% 18 Web.de 9 0.04% 19 DirectHit 8 0.04% 20 Ask Jeeves 7 0.03% Total of Searches for the Engines Above 18,812 99.87% Total of Searches for the Log File 18,836 100%"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (08:55)", "body": "Top Search Phrases Phrases Phrases found % of Total 1 bridget jones 1,094 5.8% 2 bridget jones diary 748 3.97% 3 colin firth 671 3.56% 4 bridget jones's diary 582 3.08% 5 bridget jones' diary 211 1.12% 6 bridget jones diary soundtrack 161 0.85% 7 bridget jones soundtrack 84 0.44% 8 il diario di bridge jones 74 0.39% 9 bridget jone's diary 73 0.38% 10 el diario de bridget jones 70 0.37% 11 conference center fan fiction darcy 66 0.35% 12 briget jones 65 0.34% 13 bridget jones's diary soundtrack 52 0.27% 14 robin tunney nude 51 0.27% 15 rachel de thame 51 0.27% 16 briget jones diary 49 0.26% 17 renee zellwegger 47 0.24% 18 bridget jones' diary soundtrack 42 0.22% 19 diario de bridget jones 38 0.2% 20 el diario de briget jones 37 0.19% Total Found for the Phrases Above 4,266 22.64% Total of Phrases Found in the Log File 18,836 100%"}, {"response": 23, "author": "aishling", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (09:12)", "body": ""}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 5, 2001 (09:38)", "body": "Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 18441174 4882606 12083275 29% / procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc We have 12 gigabytes disk space available for all our web sites (austen.com, spring.net, firth.com, bridgetsequel2.com etc) and we're using about 5 gigabytes of disk space. We're building a backup server that should be ready in the next 30 days."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (08:16)", "body": "New stats have been posted for spring.net for 4/19 through 8/15: General Statistics Hits Entire Site (Successful) 9,721,103 Average Per Day 81,689 Home Page 27,248 Page Views Page Views (Impressions) 1,545,482 Average Per Day 12,987 Document Views 1,539,053 Visits Visits 663,136 Average Per Day 5,572 Average Visit Length 00:30:02 Median Visit Length 00:04:21 International Visits 0% Visits of Unknown Origin 100% Visits from United States 0% Visitors Unique Visitors 222,283 Visitors Who Visited Once 187,948 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 34,335 Top Pages Pages Views % of Total Views Visits Avg. Time Viewed 1 Bridget Jones's Diary - news and more on the making of the movie http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjd.html 98,490 6.37% 83,980 00:02:26 2 The Bucket - Spring scoops on Colin Firth http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/main.html 37,802 2.44% 34,526 00:00:53 3 Colin Firth - News and updates to Colin Firth projects http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/news.html 25,879 1.67% 23,261 00:01:45 4 The Spring Conference Center - Austin, Texas http://www.spring.net/ 27,304 1.76% 19,688 00:02:07 5 Bridget Jones's Diary movie soundtrack http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdmusic.html 18,273 1.18% 16,156 00:04:43 6 Colin Firth: Bridget Jones's Diary - photo gallery http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdgal.html 16,693 1.08% 14,545 00:04:19 7 Conference Center http://www.spring.net/ yapp-bin/public/read/drool/130/since/ -7/ 15,769 1.02% 13,831 00:05:47 8 Bridget Jones's Diary - missing scenes http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdcut.html 14,430 0.93% 13,404 00:07:25 9 Colin Firth in The Importance of Being Earnest http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/earnest.html 14,142 0.91% 13,322 00:03:14 10 Cast Information for Bridget Jones's Diary http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdcast.html 13,143 0.85% 12,716 00:02:25 Top Authenticated Visitors Visitor Hits % of Total Hits Visits 1 kolin 3,812 2.83% 950 2 KarenR 7,081 5.26% 936 3 karenn 2,217 1.64% 824 4 scooter 2,533 1.88% 766 5 amw 3,008 2.23% 765 6 lizbeth54 3,523 2.62% 674 7 luann 765 0.56% 614 8 farbarb 3,681 2.73% 549 9 MarciaH 6,241 4.64% 546 10 Allison2 2,317 1.72% 538 11 Carola 1,851 1.37% 467 12 lafn 3,768 2.8% 414 13 Lora 4,854 3.6% 413 14 CathyW 1,657 1.23% 338 15 zoester 4,291 3.19% 332 16 lg 574 0.42% 332 17 mpiatt 2,304 1.71% 311 18 LauraT 2,919 2.17% 311 19 LisaJH 2,671 1.98% 274 20 toyce 1,475 1.09% 259 21 Tineke 918 0.68% 252 22 Moon 1,489 1.1% 252 23 Renata 617 0.45% 248 24 sarahmccoy 1,072 0.79% 238 25 Teca 602 0.44% 236 26 tiska 492 0.36% 233 27 LauraMM 1,227 0.91% 230 28 KateDF 988 0.73% 229 29 MarkG 1,309 0.97% 229 30 bethanne 1,796 1.33% 225 31 kkenkel513 816 0.6% 219 32 EileenG 2,530 1.88% 215 33 aishling 1,106 0.82% 209 34 wolf 2,861 2.12% 206 35 Lassie 1,369 1.01% 203 36 horrible 1,887 1.4% 196 37 KarinB 225 0.16% 194 38 MaddyPr 383 0.28% 190 39 Echo 1,504 1.11% 189 40 winter 772 0.57% 188 41 jcjc 723 0.53% 180 42 MysteryMan 1,201 0.89% 178 43 jmb4998 829 0.61% 172 44 MaryAnn 1,371 1.01% 165 45 sheriMD 272 0.2% 163 46 rachael 1,423 1.05% 161 47 mari 432 0.32% 159 48 venezia 1,189 0.88% 156 49 sociolingo 2,198 1.63% 156 50 KJArt 1,210 0.89% 144 51 miriamh 533 0.39% 143 52 KathleenFD 918 0.68% 143 53 Tray 922 0.68% 139 54 studybees 987 0.73% 138 55 alyeska 1,110 0.82% 130 56 Charlotte 824 0.61% 124 57 tamzin 330 0.24% 119 58 margaretp 265 0.19% 116 59 Lizza 1,046 0.77% 116 60 Gregory 342 0.25% 112 61 eileen520 427 0.31% 110 62 LouiseJ 919 0.68% 110 63 terry 715 0.53% 105 64 Stacey 498 0.37% 104 65 Tracy 494 0.36% 103 66 Kirsten 1,333 0.99% 101 (there are losts more, these are just those with over 100 visits."}, {"response": 26, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 3, 2001 (07:46)", "body": "I didn't mean to link this topic to today from porch. I'll try again to link in the \"How I'm spending myu holiday or weekend\" topic."}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 4, 2001 (17:11)", "body": "The WebTrends statistics for Spring.net are out for August. http://www.spring.net/webtrends General Statistics Hits Entire Site (Successful) 2,821,720 Average Per Day 91,023 Home Page 4,027 Page Views Page Views (Impressions) 712,640 Average Per Day 22,988 Document Views 711,805 Visits Visits 178,887 Average Per Day 5,770 Average Visit Length 00:47:08 Median Visit Length 00:05:08 International Visits 0% Visits of Unknown Origin 100% Visits from United States 0% Visitors Unique Visitors 71,175 Visitors Who Visited Once 60,724 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 10,451"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 2, 2001 (23:34)", "body": "New stats! 3 million hits in October 2001, last month. http://www.spring.net/webtrends/sp0110/DEFAULT.HTM General Statistics Hits Entire Site (Successful) 3,112,895 Average Per Day 100,415 Home Page 4,599 Page Views Page Views (Impressions) 680,102 Average Per Day 21,938 Document Views 678,890 Visits Visits 192,228 Average Per Day 6,200 Average Visit Length 00:24:32 Median Visit Length 00:04:16 International Visits 0% Visits of Unknown Origin 100% Visits from United States 0% Visitors Unique Visitors 72,421 Visitors Who Visited Once 60,806 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 11,615 Many, many more interesting stats about our pages and users if you dig in to this page."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (03:39)", "body": "New stats posted: http://www.spring.net/webtrends"}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 30, 2001 (10:52)", "body": "Monday, I'll probably run stats for November."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 21, 2002 (06:59)", "body": "Our stats for December are out. http://www.spring.net/webtrends/splog.01.12/DEFAULT.HTM General Statistics Hits Entire Site (Successful) 2,377,281 Average Per Day 76,686 Home Page 4,161 Page Views Page Views (Impressions) 524,899 Average Per Day 16,932 Document Views 524,017 Visits Visits 173,411 Average Per Day 5,593 Average Visit Length 00:47:37 Median Visit Length 00:03:57 International Visits 0% Visits of Unknown Origin 100% Visits from United States 0% Visitors Unique Visitors 67,548 Visitors Who Visited Once 57,729 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 9,819"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Feb 3, 2002 (08:12)", "body": "I'll be putting out January soon."}, {"response": 33, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Tue, Feb 19, 2002 (01:33)", "body": "Hi all Was not sure where to put this, but these are impressive statistics Spring is raking up. For the most recent ones I got to 45th from memory which is cool. I find it really neat to be able to track your progress in here. You go Terry! Rob"}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:07)", "body": "Spring.net September 2002 Hit Summary Successful Hits for Entire Site 2,322,976 Average Hits per Day 77,432 Home Page Hits 5,362 Visit Summary Visits 219,134 Average per Day 7,304 Average Visit Length 00:46:24 Median Visit Time 00:09:06 International Visits 0.00% Visits of Unknown Origin 100.00% Visits from Your Country: United States (US) 0.00% Page View Summary Page Views 852,156 Average per Day 28,405 Dynamic Pages and Forms Views 4,594 Document Views 847,562 Visitor Summary Unique Visitors 72,993 Visitors Who Visited Once 61,425 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 11,568"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:09)", "body": "Top Pages Pages Visits % Views Avg Time Viewed 1. Colin Firth - News and updates to Colin Firth projects http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/news.html 8,531 1.03% 9,551 00:04:32 2. Bridget Jones's Diary - news and more on the making of the movie http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjd.html 7,990 0.97% 9,107 00:02:22 3. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/browse/drool/all/ since/-7/ 6,129 0.74% 8,923 00:01:50 4. The Bucket - Spring scoops on Colin Firth http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/main.html 5,714 0.69% 6,310 00:01:34 5. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/browse/drool/all/ 5,696 0.69% 8,169 00:02:13 6. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/159/since/- 7/ 5,109 0.62% 5,749 00:04:46 7. The Spring Austin Texas Discussions http://www.spring.net/ 4,548 0.55% 5,353 00:01:03 8. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/163/since/- 7/ 4,166 0.50% 5,312 00:06:07 9. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/history/5/ 4,152 0.50% 5,084 00:05:13 10. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/browse/drool/all/ new/ 3,429 0.41% 7,060 00:02:06 11. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/read/drool/163/ new/ 2,416 0.29% 2,912 00:04:34 12. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/read/drool/159/ new/ 2,352 0.28% 2,514 00:03:35 13. Article and Interview Archive http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/articleindex.html 1,945 0.24% 2,123 00:02:57 14. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/main/ 1,937 0.23% 2,564 00:01:09 15. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/163/ 1,581 0.19% 2,265 00:07:41 16. Bridget Jones's Diary movie soundtrack http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdmusic.html 1,426 0.17% 1,716 00:03:18 17. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/160/since/- 7/ 1,394 0.17% 1,580 00:03:01 18. Cast Information for Bridget Jones's Diary http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdcast.html 1,349 0.16% 1,402 00:02:17 19. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/browse/drool/all/ since/-90/ 1,209 0.15% 1,712 00:02:20 20. Colin Firth: Bridget Jones's Diary - photo gallery http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdgal.html 1,132 0.14% 1,252 00:02:09 for Sept 2002"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:13)", "body": "July Stats Hit Summary Successful Hits for Entire Site 2,347,005 Average Hits per Day 75,709 Home Page Hits 5,377 Visitor Summary Unique Visitors 76,246 Visitors Who Visited Once 64,438 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 11,808 Page View Summary Page Views 687,630 Average per Day 22,181 Dynamic Pages and Forms Views 6,200 Document Views 681,430 Visit Summary Visits 205,277 Average per Day 6,621 Average Visit Length 00:34:48 Median Visit Time 00:04:25 International Visits 0.00% Visits of Unknown Origin 100.00% Visits from Your Country: United States (US) 0.00%"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:15)", "body": "June 2002 Visit Summary Visits 205,865 Average per Day 6,862 Average Visit Length 00:16:50 Median Visit Time 00:03:36 International Visits 0.00% Visits of Unknown Origin 100.00% Visits from Your Country: United States (US) 0.00% Page View Summary Page Views 888,818 Average per Day 29,627 Dynamic Pages and Forms Views 4,970 Document Views 883,848 Hits Trend Hit Summary Successful Hits for Entire Site 2,812,130 Average Hits per Day 93,737 Home Page Hits 6,027 Visitor Summary Unique Visitors 76,239 Visitors Who Visited Once 64,131 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 12,108 Hit Summary Successful Hits for Entire Site 2,812,130 Average Hits per Day 93,737 Home Page Hits 6,027"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:16)", "body": "Hit Summary Successful Hits for Entire Site 3,738,543 Average Hits per Day 120,598 Home Page Hits 7,450 Visitor Summary Unique Visitors 89,758 Visitors Who Visited Once 75,345 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 14,413 Visit Summary Visits 247,183 Average per Day 7,973 Average Visit Length 00:21:22 Median Visit Time 00:04:11 International Visits 0.00% Visits of Unknown Origin 100.00% Visits from Your Country: United States (US) 0.00% Visitors Trend Visitor Summary Unique Visitors 89,758 Visitors Who Visited Once 75,345 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 14,413 Page View Summary Page Views 1,129,134 Average per Day 36,423 Dynamic Pages and Forms Views 8,071 Document Views 1,121,063"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:18)", "body": "Page View Summary Page Views 584,759 Average per Day 18,863 Dynamic Pages and Forms Views 5,296 Document Views 579,463 Hit Summary Successful Hits for Entire Site 3,008,961 Average Hits per Day 97,063 Home Page Hits 7,530 Visit Summary Visits 224,781 Average per Day 7,251 Average Visit Length 00:38:51 Median Visit Time 00:03:28 International Visits 0.00% Visits of Unknown Origin 100.00% Visits from Your Country: United States (US) 0.00% Visitor Summary Unique Visitors 83,019 Visitors Who Visited Once 69,774 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 13,245"}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:19)", "body": "May 2002 top pages Top Pages Pages Visits % Views Avg Time Viewed 1. Colin Firth in The Importance of Being Earnest http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/earnest.html 12,850 1.22% 14,909 00:02:15 2. The Bucket - Spring scoops on Colin Firth http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/main.html 12,797 1.22% 14,518 00:00:47 3. Bridget Jones's Diary - news and more on the making of the movie http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjd.html 12,564 1.19% 14,255 00:02:23 4. Colin Firth - News and updates to Colin Firth projects http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/news.html 10,633 1.01% 12,150 00:01:18 5. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/159/since/- 7/ 9,418 0.89% 11,975 00:08:10 6. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/browse/drool/all/ since/-7/ 9,027 0.86% 14,612 00:01:58 7. earnest_tv http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/earnest_tv.html 8,018 0.76% 8,388 00:03:26 8. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/browse/drool/all/ 7,993 0.76% 11,746 00:02:02 9. The Spring Austin Texas Discussions http://www.spring.net/ 5,860 0.56% 7,390 00:00:52 10. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/p_eye_index.html 5,429 0.52% 5,853 00:02:29 11. Article and Interview Archive http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/articleindex.html 5,181 0.49% 5,913 00:02:19 12. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/read/drool/159/ new/ 4,835 0.46% 6,161 00:07:18 13. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/browse/drool/all/ new/ 4,368 0.41% 9,921 00:02:18 14. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/162/since/- 7/ 4,217 0.40% 6,225 00:06:50 15. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/amgirl.html 3,295 0.31% 3,351 00:01:51 16. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/read/drool/162/ new/ 3,047 0.29% 4,229 00:05:12 17. Colin Firth - Hope Springs (redirect) http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/hope.html 2,843 0.27% 3,012 00:02:15 18. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/browse/drool/all/ since/-10/ 2,837 0.27% 4,117 00:02:19 19. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/159/ 2,810 0.27% 3,890 00:09:25 20. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/main/ 2,766 0.26% 4,032 00:01:30 Subtotal 130,788 12.42% 166,647 00:02:38 Other 922,446 87.58% 987,427 00:01:20 Total 1,053,234 100.00% 1,154,074 00:01:30"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:25)", "body": "Top Pages Pages Visits % Views Avg Time Viewed 21. May 2002 Vogue, Sense and Sensibility http://www.spring.net/karenr/ articles/vogue0502.html 2,483 0.24% 2,564 00:03:59 22. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/browse/drool/all/ since/-90/ 2,451 0.23% 3,150 00:02:00 23. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/159/since/- 10/ 2,396 0.23% 2,925 00:07:08 24. Bridget Jones's Diary movie soundtrack http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdmusic.html 2,289 0.22% 2,692 00:03:56 25. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/earnest_rev.html 2,195 0.21% 2,255 00:01:45 26. Cast Information for Bridget Jones's Diary http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdcast.html 2,042 0.19% 2,111 00:02:09 27. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/159/since/- 1/ 2,023 0.19% 3,747 00:06:38 28. Colin Firth: Bridget Jones's Diary - photo gallery http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdgal.html 1,738 0.17% 1,915 00:02:18 29. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/earnest_nycprem.html 1,694 0.16% 1,768 00:03:21 30. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/162/ 1,632 0.15% 3,112 00:08:32 31. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/160/since/- 7/ 1,607 0.15% 1,793 00:02:54 32. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/155/since/- 7/ 1,601 0.15% 2,177 00:05:23 33. Conference Center http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/public/read/drool/126/since/- 7/ 1,593 0.15% 1,754 00:03:26 34. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/earnest_serenade.html 1,592 0.15% 1,741 00:03:14 35. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/earnest2.html 1,559 0.15% 1,662 00:01:46 36. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/p_eye1.html 1,500 0.14% 1,574 00:01:40 37. People's 50 Most Beautiful in the World http://www.spring.net/karenr/ articles/people51401.html 1,468 0.14% 1,516 00:01:59 38. Brandy and Cigars and the Final Solution - Times, 20 Jan 2002 http://www.spring.net/karenr/ articles/times012002.html 1,353 0.13% 1,373 00:02:25 39. Page Has No Title http://www.spring.net/yapp - bin/restricted/read/drool/160/ new/ 1,270 0.12% 1,436 00:02:09 40. BJD Premiere http://www.spring.net/karenr/ mdbro/bjdprem.html 1,216 0.12% 1,264 00:03:"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:33)", "body": "For September 2002 again, this is our bandwidth usage. Most Accessed File Types File Type Files % Kbytes Transferred 1. htm 782,106 40.83% 24,120,462 2. jpg 553,584 28.90% 5,593,951 3. gif 465,583 24.30% 1,948,506 4. html 52,799 2.76% 1,314,444 5. 638 2,714 0.14% 195,470 6. mid 436 0.02% 6,294 7. 1000 323 0.02% 24,817 8. png 271 0.01% 2,355 9. 1200 153 0.01% 6,372 10. ra 147 0.01% 31,018 11. pl 143 0.01% 361 12. 1400 139 0.01% 5,469 13. 1300 126 0.01% 7,815 14. 1050 123 0.01% 8,811 15. 1500 111 0.01% 26,580 16. wmv 109 0.01% 101,033 17. js 105 0.01% 1,463 18. 528 105 0.01% 37,755 19. jpeg 104 0.01% 5,270 20. 900 101 0.01% 8,429 Subtotal 1,859,282 97.06% 33,446,664 Other 56,337 2.94% 1,279,898 Total 1,915,619 100.00% 34,726,562"}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 15, 2002 (14:35)", "body": "Bandwidth: Kbytes Transferred Trend Time Interval Kbytes Transferred % 09/01 942,029 2.76% 09/02 1,177,669 3.45% 09/03 1,348,917 3.95% 09/04 1,363,846 3.99% 09/05 1,387,237 4.06% 09/06 1,034,764 3.03% 09/07 891,829 2.61% 09/08 1,133,257 3.32% 09/09 1,600,863 4.69% 09/10 1,637,117 4.79% 09/11 1,495,387 4.38% 09/12 1,280,096 3.75% 09/13 1,233,696 3.61% 09/14 974,328 2.85% 09/15 863,458 2.53% 09/16 1,348,990 3.95% 09/17 1,168,009 3.42% 09/18 1,036,814 3.04% 09/19 1,162,307 3.40% 09/20 1,367,498 4.00% 09/21 748,502 2.19% 09/22 1,020,778 2.99% 09/23 1,196,874 3.50% 09/24 1,063,891 3.11% 09/25 1,050,561 3.08% 09/26 994,137 2.91% 09/27 974,992 2.85% 09/28 812,036 2.38% 09/29 791,394 2.32% 09/30 1,057,405 3.10% Total 34,158,664 100.00%"}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 2004 (08:45)", "body": "I think I must go out and entice new readers to Geo. Of course I must also be better about posting new things. Meteor shower posts coming up!"}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 2004 (09:54)", "body": "Great! What about posting about the earthquake prediction for Southern Cal? They say it's coming."}, {"response": 46, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 2004 (11:16)", "body": "eeek...not another one?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 2004 (16:45)", "body": "Strong Quake Predicted to Hit Desert By Sept. 5 * Scientific Team's Work Gets Qualified Backing From State Panel A team of scientists that predicts that a quake with a magnitude of 6.4 or greater will occur somewhere in the Southern California desert by Sept. 5 has received a qualified endorsement from a state earthquake council. The California Earthquake Prediction Evaluation Council, a group of eight scientists selected by the state Office of Emergency Services, said it considers the new prediction by the UCLA team to be \"a legitimate approach in earthquake prediction research.\" Still, the council pointed out in a report to the state that \"the physical basis for the prediction has not been substantiated.\" UCLA team, headed by Vladimir Keilis-Borok, has generated interest in its prediction after it successfully forecast -- although with wide parameters in place and time -- the magnitude-6.5 San Simeon quake of Dec. 22, as well as an 8.1 quake last year off Japan's Hokkaido island. Based on its analysis, the team claims that a quake will occur somewhere within a 12,000-square-mile area east of L.A. by early September. ----- Full article (registration required) at latimes.com:"}, {"response": 48, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Apr 30, 2004 (10:29)", "body": "Jeez...why the hell do people continue to live there? Madness, sheer madness. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 82, "subject": "spring logos", "response_count": 12, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (19:43)", "body": ""}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (19:43)", "body": "comments? like it or not?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (19:56)", "body": "i like it but i thought we did this already? hmmmmm......."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 24, 2001 (23:18)", "body": "We have a nice logo, which we'll keep, but I'm looking at some other public domain logos to use in different places around the Spring. I pulled them off of free public domain art gallery sites, about 70 of 'em. If we really get jazzed by one, maybe it will become our logo. The whole page is at http://www.spring.net/spix/"}, {"response": 5, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (07:41)", "body": "hotbathers.gif was good"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (08:44)", "body": "I kind of like this one two, it reminds me of the photo I took at Peppers Falls years ago. ( http://www.spring.net/spring03.gif) . Did you like any other ones, Mike?"}, {"response": 7, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (09:50)", "body": "Not a big fan of any of the others, I'm afraid :("}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (10:16)", "body": "Here's one that I kind of like. And I like the branchwoodcut.gif a bit. The two folks in the pool is nice though."}, {"response": 9, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 25, 2001 (20:14)", "body": "i like the garden door one for our garden conference. my fave is the wreath..."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, May 26, 2001 (13:30)", "body": "I like that garden door. and the http://www.spring.net/spix/industrialspring.gif\" > is pretty cool also."}, {"response": 11, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, May 31, 2001 (17:22)", "body": "at least we're getting a consensus. not :-)"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 1, 2001 (07:11)", "body": "Well, none of these may ever become our logo, but at least we're finding out what people like and we can use some of these as graphics in places. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 83, "subject": "Spring Store", "response_count": 2, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 3, 2001 (14:04)", "body": "Here are some of the dvd titles. Action/Adventure Shakespeare in Love Gwyneth Paltrow / DVD / R / 1998 $22.49 Fever Pitch Colin Firth / DVD / R / 1996 $21.49 Beautiful People Charles Kay / DVD / R / 1999 $21.49 See all matching results for Action/Adventure... Comedy Shakespeare in Love Gwyneth Paltrow / DVD / R / 1998 $22.49 Fever Pitch Colin Firth / DVD / R / 1996 $21.49 Beautiful People Charles Kay / DVD / R / 1999 $21.49 See all matching results for Comedy... Dramas The English Patient Ralph Fiennes / DVD / R / 1996 $25.49 My Life So Far Colin Firth / DVD / PG-13 / 1999 $25.49 Northanger Abbey Peter Firth / DVD / Not Rated / 1993 $25.49 See all matching results for Dramas... Sci-Fi & Fantasy Lifeforce Steve Railsback / 1985 $21.49 Lifeforce Steve Railsback / DVD / R / 1985 $21.49 See all matching results for Sci-Fi & Fantasy... Soundtracks The Phantom Of The Opera [Remaster] Original American/London Casts / Cassette / 1987/2 cassettes $22.49 The Phantom Of The Opera [Remaster] Original American/London Casts / CD / 1987/2 discs $34.49"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 9, 2001 (11:19)", "body": "test porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 84, "subject": "The refugee question", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (09:38)", "body": "http://www.WorldCrossing.com/ is serving as a refugee landing pad for much of the Table Talk population that doesn't want to join the WELL, and I'm wondering if we should get in to a role like this? Forums at The Atlantic and The American Prospect are also in this domain. Table Talk Refugee Central is here: http://www.worldcrossing.com/WebX?13@@.eeb939b It points to all the places TTers have dispersed to, both inside and outside of WorldCrossing."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (09:42)", "body": "They list these \"Other Net Forums\" The Atlantic Monthly Cafe Utne The Mote PeoplesForum The Rabbit Hole The Rant Readerville"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 23, 2001 (10:26)", "body": "Today could be a black Thursday for watadoo@well.com and either one of the vc's he's been involved in building over the last 3 years. AOL acquired both Winamp and Spinner 2 + years ago and although their audio streaming is deemed important( they mined their technology and content to build an AOL client radio), their outside of the AOL client Web sites, content and editorial staff, and communities are not really much of a blip on the AOL radar screen. Today the heavily anticipated layoffs are going to be announced. Bigwigs flying in from NY and Dulles to talk about synergy, going forward, market shares and pink-slips. \"Fear and loathing,rumors and panic are running like a spring-swollen river. Both the Winamp community (40,00 members) and the Spinner community (1,200 or so) are on the block. Most of us have been drinking steadily all week, waiting for this morning to dawn. I find out in 3 hours if we live, or if I get to go back to work on a couple of laid aside novels.\" porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 85, "subject": "How I'm spending my holiday or weekend", "response_count": 10, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 3, 2001 (07:44)", "body": "From www.dol.gov on the meaning of Labor Day. The History of Labor Day LABOR DAY: HOW IT CAME ABOUT; WHAT IT MEANS \"Labor Day differs in every essential from the other holidays of the year in any country,\" said Samuel Gompers, founder and longtime president of the American Federation of Labor. \"All other holidays are in a more or less degree connected with conflicts and battles of man's prowess over man, of strife and discord for greed and power, of glories achieved by one nation over another. Labor Day...is devoted to no man, living or dead, to no sect, race, or nation.\" Labor Day, the first Monday in September, is a creation of the labor movement and is dedicated to the social and economic achievements of American workers. It constitutes a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity and well-being of our country. Founder of Labor Day More than 100 years after the first Labor Day observance, there is still some doubt as to who first proposed the holiday for workers. Some records show that Peter J. McGuire, general secretary of the Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners and a co-founder of the American Federation of Labor, was first in suggesting a day to honor those \"who from rude nature have delved and carved all the grandeur we behold.\" But Peter McGuire's place in Labor Day history has not gone unchallenged. Many believe that Matthew Maguire, a machinist, not Peter McGuire, founded the holiday. Recent research seems to support the contention that Matthew Maguire, later the secretary of Local 344 of the International Association of Machinists in Paterson, N.J., proposed the holiday in 1882 while serving as secretary of the Central Labor Union in New York. What is clear is that the Central Labor Union adopted a Labor Day proposal and appointed a committee to plan a demonstration and picnic. The First Labor Day The first Labor Day holiday was celebrated on Tuesday, September 5, 1882, in New York City, in accordance with the plans of the Central Labor Union. The Central Labor Union held its second Labor Day holiday just a year later, on September 5, l883. In l884 the first Monday in September was selected as the holiday, as originally proposed, and the Central Labor Union urged similar organizations in other cities to follow the example of New York and celebrate a \"workingmen's holiday\" on that date. The idea spread with the growth of labor organizations, and in l885 Labor Day was celebrated in many industrial centers of the country. Labor Day Legislation Through the years the nation gave increasing emphasis to Labor Day. The first governmental recognition came through municipal ordinances passed during 1885 and 1886. From them developed the movement to secure state legislation. The first state bill was introduced into the New York legislature, but the first to become law was passed by Oregon on February 2l, l887. During the year four more states -- Colorado, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York -- created the Labor Day holiday by legislative enactment. By the end of the decade Connecticut, Nebraska, and Pennsylvania had followed suit. By 1894, 23 other states had adopted the holiday in honor of workers, and on June 28 of that year, Congress passed an act making the first Monday in September of each year a legal holiday in the District of Columbia and the territories. A Nationwide Holiday The form that the observance and celebration of Labor Day should take were outlined in the first proposal of the holiday -- a street parade to exhibit to the public \"the strength and esprit de corps of the trade and labor organizations\" of the community, followed by a festival for the recreation and amusement of the workers and their families. This became the pattern for the celebrations of Labor Day. Speeches by prominent men and women were introduced later, as more emphasis was placed upon the economic and civic significance of the holiday. Still later, by a resolution of the American Federation of Labor convention of 1909, the Sunday preceding Labor Day was adopted as Labor Sunday and dedicated to the spiritual and educational aspects of the labor movement. The character of the Labor Day celebration has undergone a change in recent years, especially in large industrial centers where mass displays and huge parades have proved a problem. This change, however, is more a shift in emphasis and medium of expression. Labor Day addresses by leading union officials, industrialists, educators, clerics and government officials are given wide coverage in newspapers, radio and television. The vital force of labor added materially to the highest standard of living and the greatest production the world has ever known and has brought us closer to the realization of our traditional ideals of economic and political democracy. It is appropriate, therefore, that the nation pay tribute on Labor Day to the creator of so much of the nation's strength, freedom, and leadership -- the American wor"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 3, 2001 (09:20)", "body": "Today is Labor Day. Are you having fun?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 3, 2001 (19:33)", "body": "I am in Geo, as usual and talking to a few good friends on IM. As usual. I gotta keep my contacts content. Are you into BBQ-ing?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 9, 2001 (13:55)", "body": "does this topic only have to do with the labor day weekend??? ok, well, i spent labor day scrubbing and painting the house. this weekend, much of the same only i'm on stand-by as well."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 9, 2001 (16:35)", "body": "This topic is for any holiday or weekend. We had a writers group weekend at the house this weekend. They loved it and want to come back again and again! I fixed the pool cleaner, and cleaned up my office and computer room. It's sunny so I'm going for another dip soon. The Longhorns won, I watched the game. They won it for number 44 and fittingly, decided not to kick an extra point so the score would be 44 points in honor of the departed Cole Pittman."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 9, 2001 (19:42)", "body": "I watched football too, and the only reason Penn State did not lose is becase we were not playing this weekend. *sigh* Oh, I did make E-reservations for my flight and hotel for my son's wedding. Next a rental car..."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 9, 2001 (22:24)", "body": "Where's it going to be?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (15:31)", "body": "Farifield, California. In less than 2 weeks! TERRY!!! HELP!!! PLEASE SEE NOTATION IN YOUR EMAIL OR IN INNER YADDA3 TO SEE HOW TO FIX IT PLEASE!!! I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE, PLEASE. RESTORE GEO!!! PLEASE..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (12:15)", "body": "At home. Making some videos for my family to send out. Home movie stuff."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (12:15)", "body": "Happy Thanksgiving! porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 86, "subject": "Jumbo Jets crash in to World Trade Center", "response_count": 778, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (09:01)", "body": "NEW YORK \ufffd Two planes crashed into the upper floors of both World Trade Center towers minutes apart today in what President Bush said was an apparent terrorist attack, blasting fiery, gaping holes in the 110-story buildings. There was no immediate word on deaths or injuries. The president ordered a full-scale investigation to \"hunt down the folks who committed this act.\" The twin disasters happened shortly before 9 a.m. EDT and then right around 9 a.m. EDT. In Washington, officials said the FBI was investigating reports of a plane hijacking before the crashes. Heavy black smoke billowed into the sky above the gaping holes in the side of the 110-story twin towers, one of New York City's most famous landmarks, and debris rained down upon the street, one of the city's busiest work areas. When the second plane hit, a fireball of flame and smoke erupted, leaving a huge hole in the glass and steel tower. \"Today we've had a national tragedy,\" Bush said. He called it \"an apparent terrorist attack.\" Ira Furber, former NTSB spokesman, discounted the likelihood that it was an accident. \"I don't think this is an accident,\" he said on CNN. \"You've got incredibly good visibility. No pilot is going to be relying on navigational equipment.\" \"It's just not possible in the daytime,\" he added. \"A second occurrence is just beyond belief.\" The towers were struck by terrorist bombers in February 1993, killing six people and injuring more than 1,000 others. All New York City-area airports were shut down, and several subway lines were immediately shut down. Trading on Wall Street was suspended. \"The plane was coming in low and ... it looked like it hit at a slight angle,\" said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported. \"I was watching TV and heard a sonic boom,\" Jeanne Yurman told CNN. \"The side of the World Trade Center exploded. Debris is falling like leaflets. I hear ambulances. The northern tower seems to be on fire.\" Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower. A senior government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the agency is pursuing reports that one or both of the planes were hijacked and that the crashes may have been the result of a suicide mission. The source stressed that the reports are preliminary and officials do not know the cause of the crashes. \"It certainly doesn't look like an accident,\" said a second government official, also speaking on condition of anonymity. In 1945, an Army Air Corps B-25, a twin-engine bomber, crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building in dense fog. In Sarasota, Fla., Bush was reading to children in a classroom at 9:05 a.m. when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered into his ear. The president briefly turned somber before he resumed reading. He addressed the tragedy about a half-hour later. from AP report"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (09:05)", "body": "It is being reported that one of the towers has collapsed. The White House and other national offices are being evacuated."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (09:34)", "body": ""}, {"response": 4, "author": "maryw", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (09:42)", "body": "TO ALL OUR FRIENDS AT DROOL IN THE US FROM YOUR FRIENDS IN AUSTRALIA WE ARE THINKING AND PRAYING FOR YOU ALL DURING THIS HORRIBLE MOMENT IN HISTORY. TAKE CARE ALL OF YOU!!! GOD BLESS ALL OF US!!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (09:42)", "body": "Now, there's a report of another hijacked plane headed toward Washington DC. Both World Trade Centers have totally collapsed !"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (09:43)", "body": "This is like the Pearl Harbor of the world's terrorists."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:00)", "body": "Topic 1180 [current]: Terrorist attack on the World Trade Center #84 of 98: Kim Bassett (kimage) Tue Sep 11 '01 (07:52) 26 lines I've been watching ABC coverage through both collapses. Judging from the commentary plus live pictures: - There does not appear to have been a third plane impacting the WTC towers. If there is a third plane, ABC hasn't mentioned it in the last 30 minutes. - For the first collapse, the top floors above the point of impact began collapsing, the stress and failure cascading downwards all the way to the bottom. The second collapse appeared to start from the lower floors, upper floors dropping downwards. - Neither tower toppled significantly to the side; there was worry of a triage center being taken out in the second collapse, but both towers *predominantly* slid downwards. No info about damage or harm to adjacent buildings. - One small plane confirmed hit the pentagon. Scattered talk of a car bomb outside the State Department, including a smoke plume visible in the background of shots of White House evacuations. - No casualty figures as yet. The numbers are likely to be horrifying, from the plane hijacks alone."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:01)", "body": "From the NYT, reporting on Bush's statements: Mr. Bush who was said to be on his way back from a visit from Sarasota, Fla., to Washington has ordered that \"the full resources of the federal government\" be used to carry out a full investigation to find out who was responsible for the World Trade Center attacks. \"Terrorism against our country will not stand,\" he said, before ending by leading a prayer for victims of the attacks."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:01)", "body": "By Charles Babington washingtonpost.com Staff Writer Tuesday, September 11, 2001; 10:10 a.m. Minutes after two airplanes crashed into New York City\ufffds World Trade Center towers this morning in a what appears to be the gravest terrorist attack ever in America, a large airplane-caused explosion and fire took place at the Pentagon and explosions were reported at the Capitol and the State Department. At about 10 a.m., one of the 110-story World Trade Center towers collapsed, and the second tower collapsed about 30 minutes later. The tragedies stunned the nation and prompted officials, fearing still more attacks, to evacuate the Capitol, the White House, State Department and other federal buildings. Flights were canceled at all major airports in the nation. At about 10:20 a.m., the Associated Press reported the a car bomb explosion outside the State Department, senior law enforceement officials said. Shortly before the Pentagon fire ignited, President Bush called the New York disasters \"an apparent terrorist attack on our country.\" He hastily departed from Florida, where he had scheduled an education speech, and returned to Washington. Early details were sketchy, but the New York attacks seemed certain to cause heavy losses of life and many injuries. There were reports that an American Airlines 767 had been hijacked earlier today on a scheduled flight from Boston to Los Angeles, and apparently was one of the planes flown into the giant towers that dominate lower Manhattan\ufffds skyline. The second crash, which touched off a giant fireball in one of the tower\ufffds upper floors shortly after 9 a.m. EDT, took place as many Americans watched live on television. New York\ufffds airports were quickly closed, the New York Stock Exchange was evacuated, and millions of Americans watched in horror and disbelief as news of the Pentagon fire soon followed. In Florida, Bush pledged to use \ufffdthe full resources of the federal government government to help the victims and their families\" and \ufffdto hunt down and find those folks who committed these acts.\""}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:03)", "body": "Topic 1180 [current]: Terrorist attack on the World Trade Center #101 of 101: Gallatin (rickmoffat) Tue Sep 11 '01 (08:00) 3 lines Big explosion at the London Stock Exchange? I'm getting all this via super-slow web feeds, but we've got video footage of huge smoke plumes there? Can anyone confirm? We got the footage off http://news.bbc.co.uk"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:04)", "body": "This is like the Pearl Harbor of the world's terrorists."}, {"response": 12, "author": "maryw", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:07)", "body": "Terry Where are you located? Are you safe? I am in Sydney and watching CNN International and Fox News Cable. It is now 11 am NY time (1 am 12 Sept/Wed Syd time) - they are reporting and showing on screen - 2 Towers now collapsed (I watched the 2nd one collapse!) Am flabbergasted - what can one do?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:07)", "body": "Topic 1180 [current]: Terrorist attack on the World Trade Center #105 of 106: Colin Brayton (blindone) Tue Sep 11 '01 (08:02) 11 lines I saw the second attack from an elevated subway station in Brooklyn. The plane just veered into the building and the explosion shot through the building. We all gasped, people were weeping, dude I gave spare change to mutters, \"Tragedy day ...\" My friend Velma was working in the South Tower of the WTC. I just pray that she has not returned from Chicago today. Cannot reach her. Cell phone communications are out here. The plume of smoke is blowing east and south across the river, with fragments of debris shimmering in it: I thought at first it was a fantastic flock of seagulls ... BBC (www.bbc.co.uk) is about the only online news I can get ... I am going downtown Brooklyn to donate blood ... God help us."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:08)", "body": "I'm in Austin, Texas, Mary, our airport is shut down. All planes in the air have been ordered to land at the nearest airport, nationwide, not just in Austin. I'm here with a bunch of folks at work watching Fox News. No work is getting done today, or very little. The horror is mounting and we're staying calm, but this is the worst tragedy in my lifetime in this country."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:09)", "body": "\"What can one do?\" Stay calm and pray."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:10)", "body": "FAA confirms that there are several planes that are currently unaccounted for (evidently hijacked). No telling where this thing is going."}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:13)", "body": "I got through to MSNBC. Definitely not new, but here's what they are saying: NEW YORK, Sept. 11 \ufffd Americans reeled in horror Tuesday as the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history sent planes crashing into the World Trade Center in New York, toppling the twin 110-story towers. An explosion later rocked the Pentagon in Washington. The White House, the Pentagon and the Capitol building were evacuated. Military jets patrolled the skies above both cities. The FAA grounded all civilian aircraft nationwide, but not before reports of another large aircraft crashing in Western Pennsylvania. President Bush vowed to \ufffdhunt down the folks who committed this act.\ufffd THE FATE OF those in the twin skyscrapers was not immediately known. Authorities had been trying to evacuate the thousands of people who work in the twin towers, but many were thought to be trapped. \ufffdI swear I\ufffdve never seen anything like this,\ufffd said MSNBC\ufffds Ashleigh Banfield. \ufffdThis whole place is like a complete war zone.\ufffd At the Pentagon, eyewitnesses saw an aircraft crash into part of the sprawling complex. Walls were later seen to have collapsed. An earlier report of a car bomb exploding outside the State Department was later denied. In New York, the aircraft struck minutes apart, starting fires and sending smoke billowing out of the skyscrapers. The top of the south tower later collapsed onto the street below. The first crash happened shortly before 9 a.m. ET. MSNBC.com reporter Martin Wolk, who was inside one of the towers, said the lights flickered and then a loud bang was heard. People panicked and started to flee the building. When they reached the lobby, smoke started to fill the building and people could see debris falling and many cars outside were damaged. \ufffdIt was sheer pandemonium, people were screaming and crying, afraid to go outside because of the falling debris,\ufffd Wolk said. \ufffdWe looked up and it looked like the top 20 floors were in flames.\ufffd Another bystander described a barrage of debris raining down on the sidewalk below. Advertisement Shortly after 9 a.m., a second aircraft was seen crashing into the other tower. Broadcast cameras already watching the scene filmed the second plane as it slammed into the tower and exploded in a huge fireball. A half hour later, President Bush made a brief statement to reporters, calling the disaster a \ufffdnational tragedy\ufffd and attributing it to terrorists. He did not cite any specific terrorist groups but vowed to \ufffdhunt down the folks who committed this act.\ufffd U.S. military jets reportedly took to the skies to shoot down any unidentified aircraft, and congressional leaders were taken to secure locations. A plane was reported to have been circling the Capitol building before the evacuation. American Airlines later acknowledged that one of its flights had been hijacked Tuesday morning shortly after leaving Boston en route to Los Angeles. In the wake of the crashes, New York airports and the Lincoln Tunnel were closed as precautionary measures. The stock exchanges in New York also did not open. Large holes were visible in sides of the 110-story buildings. The tops of the twin towers were obscured by the smoke. Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower, one witness said. Click on the image for reports of the terrorism attacks. In an earlier terrorist attack, the center was bombed on Feb. 26, 1993, killing six people and injured more than 1,000 others. Terrorist Ramzi Yousef and three others were convicted of orchestrating the attack. Three other indicted co-conspirators remain at large. Traffic entering New York City from New Jersey was at a standstill approaching the Holland Tunnel as motorists stood outside their cars watching the fire. Across the country, highrises like Chicago\ufffds Sears Trade tower were being evacuated as a precaution. Buildings were also being evacuated in London. The Associated Press contributed to this report."}, {"response": 18, "author": "maryw", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:14)", "body": "Terry Our own Australian Prime Minister is in Washington DC. Am staying calm but busy collecting news. Cannot get on to BBC.UK - for those Spring readers who want a confirmation on the bombing in London."}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:16)", "body": "I'll post it as soon as I get it. Some of this stuff may be unconfirmed, read all this with caution. I lot of wild stuff is floating around. I'll post it all and you decide."}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:18)", "body": "rc3.org: September 11, 2001 Part of the Pentagon has collapsed. There are reports that Osama bin Laden warned the U.S. three weeks ago that we would suffer an unprecedented attack. Still awaiting more details on this. ABC is reporting that there was not a car bomb at the State Department after all. The BBC is now reporting that F-16s have been sent to intercept a hijacked plane that is headed for Washington, DC. This must be the plane mentioned earlier. The plane from Pittsburgh that crashed in Somerset County is not the plane that is being intercepted. The BBC is reporting that the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was a 767, not a 747. According to a correspondent in Greece, I hear the following (none of this have I confirmed myself): The first plane was a 747 from American Airlines (capacity 158). (This doesn't sound quite right, 747s hold more than that. Perhaps this plane was a 737 or 767.) The second plane was a 767 from United Airlines. (The BBC is reporting that the UA plane is a 737B.) The plane that hit the Pentagon was a small passenger plane. Another 747 out of Pittsburgh was hijacked, tailed by U.S. fighters, and crashed at Somerset County Airport in Pennsylvania. This may be the plane that I mentioned earlier as being hijacked. (Some are reporting that this plane was shot down.) Both towers of the WTC have now collapsed. No idea whether this was due to further explosions or loss of structural integrity caused by the original explosions. The 911 control center for New York City is (was?) in the World Trade Center. Needless to say, it's down. Yet another plane has been hijacked and is reportedly headed toward Washington DC. All international flights approaching the U.S. have been diverted to Canada. Congressmen have been evacuated to an underground bunker. I've heard many comparisons to Pearl Harbor at this point. Explain to me again why we pump all that money into the NSA and CIA? How did we have no idea that this was coming? A car bomb has exploded outside the State Department. I've now heard from a number of sources that the second tower collapsed completely after it was hit by a third plane (the second to hit that tower in particular). This was just a rumor, there was no third plane to hit the WTC. I'm finding it hard to get to online news sites. You can get a live audio stream from the BBC World Service at Yahoo Broadcast, that's what I'm listening to. Latest news : all flights in the U.S. are grounded, and all planes were ordered to land at the nearest airport. One of the two towers of the WTC has collapsed (at least partially). According to the news, there can be up to 100,000 people in the WTC at any given time. Terrorists have attacked the World Trade Center and Pentagon by deliberately crashing planes into them. One of the planes that crashed into the WTC was a hijacked American Airlines 767 out of Boston, I don't know about the others."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:19)", "body": "From Indiatimes.com: 'Bin Laden warned of US attack' LONDON: Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden warned three weeks ago that he and his followers would carry out an unprecedented attack on US interests for its support of Israel, an Arab journalist with access to him said on Tuesday. Abdel-Bari Atwan, editor of the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper said Islamic fundamentalists led by Bin Laden was \"almost certainly\" behind the attack of the World Trade Center in New York. \"It is most likely the work of Islamic fundamentalists. Osama bin Laden warned three weeks ago that he would attack American interests in an unprecedented attack, a very big one,\" Atwan told Reuters. \"Personally we received information that he planned very, very big attacks against American interests. We received several warnings like this. We did not take it so seriously, preferring to see what would happen before reporting it.\" Atwan has interviewed Bin Laden and maintains close contacts with his followers. ( REUTERS )"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:27)", "body": "NHK sez that CBS reports that 11 planes total have been hijacked, and four are still whereabouts unknown."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:28)", "body": "This topic has been linked to drool, geo and other conferences here temporarily while this story is unfolding. It will be eventually unlinked."}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:30)", "body": "FORT WORTH, Texas American Airlines confirmed today that it lost two aircraft in tragic incidents this morning. American said the flights were Flight 11, a Boeing 767 en route from Boston to Los Angeles with 81 passengers, nine flight attendants and two pilots; and Flight 77, a Boeing 757 operating from Washington Dulles to Los Angeles with 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:32)", "body": "This is something that we will all remember in future years, like when JFK was shot, we'll remember where we were and what we were doing when this happened. I was in my car heading to Austin on 183 listening to a sports show when Bucky Goldbolt broke the news and I switched to the local news station to hear more. I was coming up on North Lamar."}, {"response": 26, "author": "maryw", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:33)", "body": "11.28 AM NY Time/1.28 am (Wed 12 Sep)Sydney Listening to AustBroadcastingCorp (AustBC) - a CNN reporter getting live feed (can hear in the background). Reporting follows : United Airlines NY to San Francisco has crashed. in addition to those that were reported on the media earlier... Washington to LAX and Boston to LAX."}, {"response": 27, "author": "aishling", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:34)", "body": "I have been listening to our news in UK since this terrible news broke and the London Stock Exchange and Canary Wharf have been evacuated as a precautionary."}, {"response": 28, "author": "maryw", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:39)", "body": "11.36 AM NY Time/1.36 am (Wed 12 Sep)Sydney AustBC is reporting that the Talliban is reported to have announced that they will be holding press conference soon."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:51)", "body": "Colin Powell time."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (10:55)", "body": "An aside: US attacks slam eurostocks; insurers hit, oil climbs By Sophie Walker and Louise Ireland LONDON, Sept 11 (Reuters) - A series of deadly attacks on U.S. landmark buildings sent European stock markets into a nosedive on Tuesday, with insurance shares taking the brunt of the pressure while investors scrambled to scoop up oil stocks."}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:03)", "body": "Some street celebrations in Palestine."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:08)", "body": "I got through to MSNBC. Definitely not new, but here's what they are saying: NEW YORK, Sept. 11 \ufffd Americans reeled in horror Tuesday as the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history sent planes crashing into the World Trade Center in New York, toppling the twin 110-story towers. An explosion later rocked the Pentagon in Washington. The White House, the Pentagon and the Capitol building were evacuated. Military jets patrolled the skies above both cities. The FAA grounded all civilian aircraft nationwide, but not before reports of another large aircraft crashing in Western Pennsylvania. President Bush vowed to \ufffdhunt down the folks who committed this act.\ufffd THE FATE OF those in the twin skyscrapers was not immediately known. Authorities had been trying to evacuate the thousands of people who work in the twin towers, but many were thought to be trapped. \ufffdI swear I\ufffdve never seen anything like this,\ufffd said MSNBC\ufffds Ashleigh Banfield. \ufffdThis whole place is like a complete war zone.\ufffd At the Pentagon, eyewitnesses saw an aircraft crash into part of the sprawling complex. Walls were later seen to have collapsed. An earlier report of a car bomb exploding outside the State Department was later denied. In New York, the aircraft struck minutes apart, starting fires and sending smoke billowing out of the skyscrapers. The top of the south tower later collapsed onto the street below. The first crash happened shortly before 9 a.m. ET. MSNBC.com reporter Martin Wolk, who was inside one of the towers, said the lights flickered and then a loud bang was heard. People panicked and started to flee the building. When they reached the lobby, smoke started to fill the building and people could see debris falling and many cars outside were damaged. \ufffdIt was sheer pandemonium, people were screaming and crying, afraid to go outside because of the falling debris,\ufffd Wolk said. \ufffdWe looked up and it looked like the top 20 floors were in flames.\ufffd Another bystander described a barrage of debris raining down on the sidewalk below. Advertisement Shortly after 9 a.m., a second aircraft was seen crashing into the other tower. Broadcast cameras already watching the scene filmed the second plane as it slammed into the tower and exploded in a huge fireball. A half hour later, President Bush made a brief statement to reporters, calling the disaster a \ufffdnational tragedy\ufffd and attributing it to terrorists. He did not cite any specific terrorist groups but vowed to \ufffdhunt down the folks who committed this act.\ufffd U.S. military jets reportedly took to the skies to shoot down any unidentified aircraft, and congressional leaders were taken to secure locations. A plane was reported to have been circling the Capitol building before the evacuation. American Airlines later acknowledged that one of its flights had been hijacked Tuesday morning shortly after leaving Boston en route to Los Angeles. In the wake of the crashes, New York airports and the Lincoln Tunnel were closed as precautionary measures. The stock exchanges in New York also did not open. Large holes were visible in sides of the 110-story buildings. The tops of the twin towers were obscured by the smoke. Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower, one witness said. Click on the image for reports of the terrorism attacks. In an earlier terrorist attack, the center was bombed on Feb. 26, 1993, killing six people and injured more than 1,000 others. Terrorist Ramzi Yousef and three others were convicted of orchestrating the attack. Three other indicted co-conspirators remain at large. Traffic entering New York City from New Jersey was at a standstill approaching the Holland Tunnel as motorists stood outside their cars watching the fire. Across the country, highrises like Chicago\ufffds Sears Trade tower were being evacuated as a precaution. Buildings were also being evacuated in London. The Associated Press contributed to this report."}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:11)", "body": "Terror attacks paralyze Washington, New York By Shelley Emling and Marilyn Geewax Cox News Service Tuesday, September 11, 2001 WASHINGTON \ufffd An apparently coordinated series of terror attacks struck the nation's capital and its largest city this morning, destroying both towers of the World Trade Center in New York and shutting down most government operations. An airliner struck the north tower of the 110-story World Trade Center about 8:45 a.m. EDT, followed about 18 minutes later by a second apparently deliberate crash into the south tower. A little more than hour later, the south tower collapsed, and the north tower folowed it. In the capital, a fire forced the evacuation of the Pentagon, reportedly after another aircraft struck the building. A car bomb explosion and fire was also reported at the State Department, which was evacuated along with the Capitol and the White House. The Federal Aviation Administration suspended all aircraft takeoffs across the country. It was not immediately clear who was responsible for the attacks. According to unconfirmed reports, a Palestinian group has claimed responsibility for at least one of the attacks. \"There will be hell to pay in the weeks and months ahead,\" said Neil Livingstone, a terrorism expert in Washington. \"This basically amounts to a declaration of war.\" President Bush, visiting an elementary school in Sarasota, Fla., said, \"I've ordered that the full resources of the federal government go to help the victims and their families and to conduct a full-scale investigation to hunt down and to find those folks who committed this act. Terrorism against our nation will not stand.\" The sound of sirens on Capitol Hill added to the tension as vehicles headed to emergencies in the city. Downtown streets were gridlocked as an air of panic began to spread among workers who poured from buildings. Smoke billowed from the Pentagon, just across the Potomac River from the District of Columbia. \"I saw the tail of a large airliner. . . . It plowed right into the Pentagon,\" said an Associated Press Radio reporter. \"There is billowing black smoke.\" Shortly after the Capitol building was evacuated, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., said there was an \"unauthorized plane\" in airspace in the Washington area. \"People are trying to figure out where it is. That's all I can tell you right now,\" Kerry said. In New York, black smoke poured from the international landmark, and paper and debris rained onto the streets. By 9 a.m., thousands of people already were at work on the upper floors of the World Trade Center. Casualties were impossible to determine immediately, but were likely to number at least in the hundreds. Ira Furman, a former spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board, said it was unlikely the acts were caused by pilot or navigational error. \"It is beyond belief,\" he said. \"Planes can come within a few miles of the World Trade Center, but a pilot would never come this close.\" One witness, Mary Cozza, said she heard a loud \"boom\" before seeing the crash. \"I looked up and saw a plane that looked like it was flying too low,\" she said. \"It looked like it was aimed right at the World Trade Center. We saw the crash. Shattered glass was pouring down. It didn't look like a giant airliner. It didn't look like it was swerving out of control or anything.\" The World Trade Center has been the target of terrorism before. In February 1993 a terrorist bomb rocked the Manhattan skyscrapers. The World Trade Center is one of the nation's most well-known structures located in the heart of the U.S. financial district, one of the city's most heavily populated areas. Many major financial and technology companies are housed here and it's only a 10-minute walk from the U.S. Stock Exchange. The stock exchange suspended trading just after the crash."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:17)", "body": "cnn.com (hard to get to now): AMERICA UNDER ATTACK World Trade Centers collapse after planes hit, 10,000 emergency workers head to scene Plane hits Pentagon, part of the Pentagon collapses American, United both confirm losing two planes each Bush calls trade center crashes terrorist act Federal buildings, United Nations evacuated FAA grounds all U.S. flights, sends trans-Atlantic flights to Canada Israel evacuates embassies U.S.-Mexico border closed Non-essential NATO employees asked to leave Brussels HQ"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:18)", "body": "NEW YORK (CNN) -- Terrorists struck the United States Tuesday morning in harrowing, widespread attacks that included at least three commercial jet crashes into significant buildings. \ufffd In the first attack, a plane hit the north tower of the World Trade Center in Manhattan shortly before 9 a.m., followed by another plane into the second tower about 20 minutes later. Both towers later collapsed. \ufffd About an hour later, a plane crashed into the Pentagon, part of which later collapsed. \ufffd American Airlines told CNN that it lost two planes in \"tragic accidents:\" Flight 11 from Boston with 81 passengers and 11 crew aboard and Flight 77 from Washington Dulles airport with 58 passengers and six crew aboard. Both planes were en route to Los Angeles \ufffd United Airlines Flight 93 airliner headed from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, crashed near Somerset, Pennsylvania -- police said initial reports indicated no survivors. United also confirmed the crash of Flight 175 from Boston to Los Angeles. \ufffd The Pentagon, the White House, the State Department, the Justice Department, the Capitol, the CIA and all other government buildings in Washington evacuated. \ufffd President Bush cancelled an appearance in Florida to return to Washington, calling the crashes \"apparent terrorist attacks\" and \"a national tragedy.\" \ufffd In the first ever national ground stop of aircraft, all flights nationwide have been stopped at their departure airports. \ufffd All international flights were diverted to Canada. \ufffd Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, said in reaction to the news of the terror attacks that \"we want to tell the American children that Afghanistan feels your pain and we hope that the courts find justice.\" \ufffd In New York, more than 10,000 rescue personnel rushed to the scene. The entire downtown area of Manhattan was evacuated as far north as Rockefeller Center, according to an official at an emergency command post. \ufffd Israel has evacuated all its missions around the world. \ufffd The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta was evacuated. CDC was preparing bioterrorism teams in case they become necessary. \ufffd Philadelphia landmarks were also evacuated. \ufffd In Chicago, the Sears Tower was evacuated; United Nations in New York evacuated. \ufffd The New York Port Authority said it had closed all bridges and tunnels into the city. \ufffd U.S. stock markets were closed after the New York attacks. \ufffd NATO sent home all non-essential personnel from its Brussels, Belgium, headquarters. \ufffd Border between the United States and Mexico closed."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:25)", "body": "Nation: United plane crashes near Pittsburgh; 3 other flights missing The Associated Press PITTSBURGH (September 11, 2001 11:59 a.m. EDT) - A United Airlines plane crashed Tuesday morning just north of the Somerset County Airport. United said it was also \"deeply concerned\" about another plane, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was bound from Boston to Los Angeles. American Airlines said Tuesday it had lost two planes with a total 156 people aboard, Agence-France Presse reported. The United Boeing 757 was enroute from Newark, N.J. to San Francisco. The United plane crashed about 10 a.m. about 8 miles east of Jennerstown, according to county 911 dispatchers, WPXI-TV in Pittsburgh reported. \"It shook the whole station,\" said Bruce Grine, owner of Grine's Service Center in Shanksville, about two and one-half miles from the crash. \"Everybody ran outside, and by that time the fire whistle was blowing.\" United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did say how many people were aboard the flight. On behalf of the airline CEO James Goodwin said: \"The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved. \"United is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights,\" he said. The Somerset County airport, about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, in a small, rural facility that does not handle such aircraft. Because of the attacks, the Federal Aviation Administration had ordered all departing flights canceled nationwide, and any planes already in the air were to land a the nearest airport. The plane crashed shortly after the order was issued. The crash came the same morning that terrorists crashed two planes into the World Trade Center in New York City and the twin 110-story towers collapsed. A plane also hit the Pentagon in Washington"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:26)", "body": "By BETH GARDINER, Associated Press LONDON (September 11, 2001 12:02 p.m. EDT) - Terrorist strikes in the United States quickly reached a global audience Tuesday, with leaders around the world watching live coverage of an aircraft hitting the World Trade Center. Audiences were transfixed by the awful images from New York, where both World Trade Center towers collapsed. Key indexes sank on world stock markets and some European airlines canceled flights to the United States and recalled planes already in the air. Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed his condolences to the American people over the terrorist attacks, calling the \"terrible tragedies,\" the Kremlin press service said. \"This mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today,\" said Prime Minister Tony Blair, who canceled a speech at a trade union conference. \"It is perpetrated by fanatics who are utterly indifferent to the sanctity of human life, and we the democracies of this world are going to have to come together and fight it together.\" President Jacques Chirac of France, in a nationally televised statement, called the attacks in the United States \"monstrous\" and expressed his solidarity with the American people. \"France has just learned of these monstrous attacks, there is no other word for it, that have hit America,\" Chirac said from Rennes, in the western region of Brittany. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and his top aides followed the events at his seaside office in Gaza City, gathered around a TV set. \"I send my condolences to the president, the government and the people for this terrible incident,\" Arafat said. \"We are completely shocked. It's unbelievable.\" In Berlin, Foreign Ministry officials huddled in a crisis meeting, and Parliament's vice speaker Anke Fuchs told lawmakers a \"terrible catastrophe\" had happened. Virtually all German TV channels switched to live coverage. \"This is pure mass murder,\" one commentator said. Scandinavian Airlines System, SAS, rerouted three airplanes bound for New York and one for Washington from Norway, Denmark and Sweden. Flights to the United States were suspended from Portugal, and the Belgian airline recalled two flights on the way to the United States, diverted others to Canada and canceled all planned flights to the United States. In Thailand, Suranand Vejjajiva, a spokesman for the office of Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said they were watching the news in disbelief. A spokesman for Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo said: \"The president has been monitoring the events since an hour ago and she condemns what is obviously the worst terrorist attack on a leader of civilized society.\" Broadcasters around the world broke into programming to show images of the disaster. \"It's incredible. I thought I was watching a Hollywood movie,\" said Hong Kong school teacher Doris Tang."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:27)", "body": "Agence France-Presse MOSCOW (September 11, 2001 12:15 p.m. EDT) - Russian President Vladimir Putin told President Bush on Tuesday that the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington \"must not go unpunished\", the Interfax news agency reported. \"The series of barbaric acts directed against innocent people fills us with indignation and revolt,\" said Putin in a telegram to Bush. \"Such inhuman acts must not go unpunished,\" he said."}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:30)", "body": "(September 11, 2001 11:18 a.m. EDT) - Timeline of U.S. Attacks - Plane crashes into tower of World Trade Center in lower Manhattan, shortly before 9 a.m. Eastern. - Second plane crashes into the second tower of the World Trade Center, shortly after 9 a.m. Eastern. - President Bush, in Sarasota, Florida, calls the crashes \"an apparent terrorist attack\" and a \"national tragedy.\" - An aircraft crashes near Pentagon, just outside of Washington D-C, in Northern Virginia, about an hour after the attacks in New York. - Government buildings in Washington, including the Capitol and the White House, are evacuated with officials citing a credible threat of a terrorist attack. - The Federal Aviation Administration shuts down all aircraft takeoffs nationwide. - Shortly after 10 a.m. Eastern, one World Trade Center tower in New York collapses, about an hour after being hit by plane. - American Airlines says one of the planes that crashed into the Trade Center was American Airlines Flight 11, hijacked after takeoff from Boston en route to Los Angeles. - Senior law enforcement officials say car bomb explodes outside of State Department in Washington, D-C. Federal protective services later denies car bomb attack occurred. - Financial markets suspend trading in the wake of the attacks. - Officials at Somerset County Airport say a large plane crashes in western Pennsylvania, about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, at about 10:00 a.m. - The second tower of the World Trade Center collapses at 10:28 a.m. Eastern. - Fourth explosion rocks the collapsed remains of the World Trade Center, at about 10:38 a.m. - Authorities across the country go on alert, tightening security at strategic facilities and evacuating high-profile buildings. U.S. monuments and museums in Washington DC are closed. - Securities and Exchange Commission says all financial markets are closed for the day."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:50)", "body": "Dan Rather reports Bush is going to make a statement from an Air Force Base in Louisiana in a few minutes."}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:51)", "body": "All 4 flights that crashed were apparently bound for California. When did the airlines first realize that something was wrong? The plane from Boston that crashed into the WTC was bound for Los Angeles. Topic 1180 [current]: Terrorist attack on the World Trade Center #199 of 199: Jerry (jmcarlin) Tue Sep 11 '01 (09:47) 6 lines CNN says 4 plans lost/missing: 2 American and 2 united. They said that they *think* that one of them might be one that hit the Pentagon. CNN is also reporting that bin Laden is increasingly being blamed."}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (11:51)", "body": "Salon confirms military is at Delta. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/11/bombings/index.html There is no higher military alert than Delta."}, {"response": 43, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:04)", "body": "I'm on Long Island, 40 miles east of the city...was at work when this happened. several of my friends work in NYC, one of them in 7 World Trade, a building next to tower 2. i'm so scared right now... how could anyone do something like this?! 10K people work(ed) in each of those towers, not counting the tourists, people on the streets, etc. i feel sick."}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:09)", "body": "I hope your friends are ok Liz."}, {"response": 45, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:10)", "body": "People have been comparing this to Pearl Harbor. Most of us were not born at the time of that event. The feeling today's events conjures in me is the fear I lived through in 1962 during the Cuban missile crisis. At that time, only one man stood between us and WWIII. If we could trace these attacks to one country, we would now be at war. And I doubt that even JFK could prevent it."}, {"response": 46, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:11)", "body": "Incidentally, 45-50 thousand people work in the two WTC buildings...not 10K."}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:18)", "body": "unidentified source: Friend of mine in Scotland, who is monitoring a lot of news feeds and has a bunch of friends in US military bases, is giving me info that I can't find _anywhere_ else- he claims that 12 (!) planes are still en route to the US, not all over the Atlantic, and that are not responding to hails. Anyone know anything about this?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:19)", "body": "Incidentally, 45-50 thousand people work in the two WTC buildings...not 10K."}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:21)", "body": "I think I heard somewhere that 55,000 or so were killed in the Vietnam war, the toll here is going to be horrorific."}, {"response": 50, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:26)", "body": "yes, charlotte..what I meant was 10K per tower in just the offices, minimum capacity. full capacity is closer to 20-25K per tower. it doesn't matter the toll; one life is too much. thanks, terry. I'm praying for all who have friends or relatives in downtown."}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:40)", "body": "Colin Powell said: \"A great tragedy has struck our country and it will not affect the nature of our society,'' he said. ``We'll find out who's responsible for this and bring them to justice.''"}, {"response": 52, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (12:48)", "body": "Agreed, Liz. Sorry I misunderstood. Also sorry my post appeared twice. Must have been cause I \"refresh\"-ed. Terry, thank you for making this site available when it is impossible to get news elsewhere."}, {"response": 53, "author": "sociolingo", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:00)", "body": "Yes, Terry, thanks for the email about the topic ..I'm in the UK, we turned on the TV just after the first plane hit and have been following the news since. Our prayers and thoughts are with all those concerned and I hope that my friends on Spring get good news about people they know. In the City of London the Stock Exchange closed, and several major buildings were evacuated and the City closed. All US banks and institutions here are on high alert. There were reports an hour or so ago about another plane crash in Pittsburg which appeared to be related. Also a report of another hijack plane heading for Washington ..... sorry I don't have any details ...anyone else have any news??"}, {"response": 54, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:03)", "body": "In Hawaii, on the Bis Island, all schools are closed as is the airport (throughout the state, actually). On Oahu, all military personnel are to report to their stations, Pearl Harbor all ships staffed. Arizona Memorial closed. This is ghastly. Beyond anything Hollywood could dream up. Be calm, stay home, donate blood if you can, (even call for it here) and PRAY. Thanks Terry!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:03)", "body": "There's news of this above in this topic. The other hijacked plane went down, it was the same plane that went down in Pittsburgh. \ufffdI JUST SAW the building I work in come down,\ufffd said businessman Gabriel Ioan, shaking in shock outside City Hall a cloud of smoke and ash from the World Trade Center behind him. \ufffdI just saw the top of Trade Two come down.\ufffd MSNBC.com producer Steve Johnson, standing about six blocks from the towers in lower Manhattan, was also an eyewitness to the collapse. \ufffdAbout five minutes before the tower fell you could see people jumping from the upper floors. I watched six either fall or jump ... The police rolled up [in] vans. Suddenly the top of [the tower] just shattered into tens of thousands of pieces. You could see the walls peel away. The whole thing just disappeared. Then the smoke came up. The cops started yelling, \ufffdGet back! Run! Get away!\ufffd I ran inside a hotel, and it went black outside because of the dust.\ufffd Nearby a crowd mobbed a man on a pay phone, screaming at him to get off the phone so that they could call relatives. Dust and dirt flew everywhere. Ash was 2 to 3 inches deep in places. People wandered dazed and terrified. \ufffdI was in the World Financial Center looking out the window,\ufffd said one woman. \ufffdI saw the first plane and then 15 minutes later saw the other plane just slam into the World Trade Center.\ufffd Firefighter Jimmy Grillo, with Ladder 24, had blood running down his face from an injury to his nose. Grillo was in the lobby of the World Trade Center after the first blast and when the second blast came, he was trapped in the debris. \ufffdWe crawled in the debris toward the light\ufffd. There\ufffds a bunch of guys still trapped in there,\ufffd Grillo told MSNBC.com\ufffds Johnson. \ufffdPEOPLE SCREAMING ... DIVING FOR COVER\ufffd Another eyewitness, AP newsman Dunstan Prial, described a strange sucking sound from the Trade Center buildings after the first building collapsed. \ufffdWindows shattered. People were screaming and diving for cover. People walked around like ghosts, covered in dirt, weeping and wandering dazed.\ufffd \ufffdIt sounded like a jet or rocket,\ufffd said Eddie Gonzalez, a postal worker at a post office on West Broadway. \ufffdI looked up and saw a huge explosion. I didn\ufffdt see the impact. I just saw the explosion.\ufffd Morning commuters heading into Manhattan were stranded as the Lincoln Tunnel was shut down to incoming traffic. Many left their cars and stood on the ramp leading to the tunnel, staring in disbelief at the thick cloud of smoke pouring from the top of the two buildings. On the streets of Manhattan, people stood in groups talking quietly or watching on television at ground-level network studios. Terror attack on the U.S. \ufffd Main story \ufffd MSNBC's Wolk: On the scene in Manhattan \ufffd Witnesses describe terror in the towers \ufffd World reacts with horror \ufffd Markets, airports, U.S. border shut after terror \ufffd Newsweek: An icon destroyed \ufffd Exodus in Washington \ufffd Live video coverage \ufffd Discuss the attacks on MSNBC's bulletin board Joan Goldstein, communications project leader for The Associated Press, was on a bus from New Jersey at about 8:50 a.m. when she saw \ufffdsmoke pouring out of the World Trade Center building. We said, \ufffdOh, my God! The World Trade Center\ufffds on fire!\ufffd Perhaps 10 minutes later, \ufffdAll of a sudden, there was an orange plume, a huge explosion. It shot out the back of the building. Everybody on the bus was just moaning and gasping,\ufffd said Goldstein, who wept and trembled as she spoke. The plume was from the second plane, but she didn\ufffdt see the plane because of the thick smoke. She tried to call friends who work there, but couldn\ufffdt get through. \ufffdIt was the most horrible thing I\ufffdve ever seen in my life,\ufffd said Goldstein. GIVING BLOOD At St. Vincent\ufffds hospital in Greenwich Village, people waited in long lines to give blood. They were taken according to blood type. Hundreds of donors \ufffd perhaps as many as a thousand \ufffd looked like a tapestry of New York citizenry. \ufffdThere are all kinds of people \ufffd young and old, black and white, students and professionals waiting to give blood,\ufffd said Harry Barandes, a graduate student at New York University. Ambulances continued to arrive intermittently. The shock on people\ufffds faces was shaken free only by the sirens that blared in the background. Meanwhile, volunteers wandered among those waiting in line, asking if anyone was hungry or thirsty. \ufffdThere are really kind citizens passing out food and water,\ufffd said Barandes. \ufffdThe outpouring of goodwill is amazing.\ufffd Further from the disaster scene in upper Manhattan signs went up that blood drives had begun. SURREAL SCENE, EERY CALM \ufffdThere\ufffds a huge smell of char in the air. People are walking with masks, with their shirts off. People trying to get out [of the area] any way. People are crying, watching in disbelief. [It\ufffds] total shock.\ufffd \ufffd MICHELLE PRELI MSNBC.com producer In Brooklyn, across the East River from Manhattan, \ufffdthe situation is chaos,\ufffd MSNBC.com producer Michelle Preli reported. \ufffdThe Manhattan Bridge and Brooklyn Bridge are "}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:03)", "body": "German stock exchange threatened by bomb attack. They are closing."}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:04)", "body": "\ufffdTHERE HAVE BEEN the most terrible, shocking events taking place in the United States of America within the last couple of hours,\ufffd British Prime Minister Tony Blair told union leaders in Brighton, southern England. \ufffdWe can only imagine the terror and carnage there and the many, many innocent people who have lost their lives.\ufffd Blair, who had been due to deliver a key policy speech, cut short his visit and said he wanted to return immediately to London to monitor the unfolding events. He sent his deepest condolences to Bush and the people of America."}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:05)", "body": "\ufffdThis mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today. It is perpetrated by fanatics who are utterly indifferent to the sanctity of life,\ufffd he said. Russian President Vladimir Putin described the attack as a terrible tragedy, according to Kremlin spokesman Alexei Gromov, and convened a special meeting of his defense and security officials. Putin also offered his condolence to the United States. France\ufffds president, Jacques Chirac, in a live televised address, condemned the attacks and expressed his solidarity with the American people. Advertisement \ufffdFrance has just learned of these monstrous attacks \ufffd there is no other word for it \ufffd that have hit America,\ufffd Chirac said from Rennes, in the western region of Brittany. In Berlin, Foreign Ministry officials huddled in a crisis meeting, and Parliament\ufffds vice speaker, Anke Fuchs, told lawmakers a \ufffdterrible catastrophe\ufffd had happened. Virtually all German TV channels switched to live coverage. \ufffdThis is pure mass murder,\ufffd one commentator said. German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder convened an unprecedented meeting of his security council, and air traffic authorities said all European flights to the United States had been suspended. The council meets rarely and is the government\ufffds main body in times of crisis. Besides Schroeder, it includes the foreign, defense and interior ministers and several others. MIDEAST REACTS Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and his top aides followed the events at his seaside office in Gaza City, gathered around a TV set. \ufffdWe completely condemn this serious operation. ... We were completely shocked. It\ufffds unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable.\ufffd An anonymous caller told Abu Dhabi television earlier on Tuesday that a radical Palestinian group was responsible for the attacks, but the group later denied any involvement. Israeli Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer told Israel\ufffds Army Radio it was \ufffdsimply a tragedy.\ufffd"}, {"response": 59, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:06)", "body": "The Pittsburgh plane crash is the one they believe was also headed for Washington DC, with some speculating that it might have either the Capitol (building) or White House as its target. How they could come to that, I'll never know. Two planes were targeted at the WTC (one at each tower). The Pentagon is an enormous building (sq ft-wise). All the planes (4) had California as their destination which would give them the maximum amount of fuel any aircraft would have onboard."}, {"response": 60, "author": "loveliz", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:11)", "body": "Hi, just heard that a passenger from the PA crash had a cell phone in the bathroom and reported that they were being hijacked...\"this is not a hoax\". guess not. Also heard that there were 6-8 planes in the air that would be allowed to land at the Nashville airport. My daughter's fiance's sister is an intern at St. Vincents. She is alive. Just heard that there were over 100 victims there, 2 dead, but I had heard earlier that the vestibule was stacked with fatal burn victims. Hope that was a rumor. love,Eliz"}, {"response": 61, "author": "ToSch", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:11)", "body": "All the German and European people want to express their condolence to the people of the United States! Our prayers are with the victims and their families! God bless you! Your Tobias"}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:23)", "body": "From the eyewitness reports on the BBC it appears that the second plane flew slowly and directly into the south tower of the WTC. Its likely that the terrorists flew the planes. CNN is talking about the lead time that air traffic controllers had that the planes were off course. One made a sharp turn at Albany and headed south. They are also talking about the tapes of the controllers trying to talk to the planes. Just speculation right now - the tapes are not yet available."}, {"response": 63, "author": "BlackB", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:24)", "body": "My thoughts and prayers are with those whose families are affected by these tragedies. All German TV channels do reports now. Something however disturbs me in some way: in the first chapter of Tom Clancy's novel \"Executive Orders\" a plane crashes into the capitol and kills everyone inside. Seems like the wrong people read that book.... BlackB"}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:27)", "body": "BlackB, I've had the same thoughts about giving the truly warped mentally bad ideas for their terrorism in books and movies. FCC, federal agencies shut down after terrorist attacks Along with most other federal agencies, the FCC has closed its offices and sent its employees home in the wake of apparent terrorist attacks this morning in New York City, Washington, DC, and elsewhere. The FCC has issued no emergency declaration nor other special instructions to the Amateur Radio community. The ARRL has advised amateurs to stay alert to instructions from local authorities. President George W. Bush has announced that the US military is on high alert in the US and abroad. US air traffic was shut down after two airliners struck the twin towers of the 110-story World Trade Center in New York City this morning within a short time of each other. The building's towers partially collapsed in the wake of the collisions. An aircraft subsequently crashed into the Pentagon, and another aircraft crashed near Pittsburgh, reportedly after being hijacked. American Airlines and United Airlines both have acknowledged that they have lost planes this morning. More than 260 died in the crashes. Thousands were believed injured in New York City; there's no estimate on the number killed. New York City-Long Island Section Emergency Coordinator Tom Carrubba, KA2D, said there has been no request for any Amateur Radio Emergency Service response at this time, although hams have been requested to assist the American Red Cross. New York City's emergency management offices are located in the World Trade Center. He said he was alerting all amateurs, especially ARES and Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service personnel, to get prepared and to stand by. Carrubba said he's in the process of setting up a command channel on a linked repeater system that will cover the area from New York City into Long Island's Suffolk County. Kenneth Goetz, N2SQW, reports New York State RACES is operational on 3.993.5 and 7.248 MHz handling emergency and governmental-type traffic. He asked amateurs to avoid these frequencies. In the Washington, DC, area, Virginia SEC Tom Gregory, N4NW, says Virginia ARES has been put on alert but has not yet been activated. ''I've asked everyone to monitor the emergency frequencies and to keep a full tank of gas.'' He said the attack on Washington has resulted in a massive traffic jam as workers in DC attempt to leave the capital; cellular telephone communication was next-to-impossible. While no emergency nets are in operation yet, Gregory said all repeaters would be available as well as 7.243 MHz and 3.947 MHz on HF. Virginia RACES reportedly has been activated at the state emergency operations center at Virginia State Police headquarters in Richmond as a precautionary measure. The FCC's Riley Hollingsworth today suggested that the amateur community remain calm but ready. He invited amateurs monitoring any suspicious radio activity to contact him, and he will relay relevant information to the FCC duty team. He advised monitors to tape such radio traffic, if possible. Should a state of war be declared, Amateur Radio would not automatically be shut down. This requirement was eliminated prior to the Gulf War."}, {"response": 65, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:38)", "body": "first chapter of Tom Clancy's novel \"Executive Orders\" The kamikaze plane attack on the Capitol Building was the plot of the book before that one: Debt of Honor. The pilot was part of the plan, which took out the entire government. You don't need eyewitness reports on BBC. The second plane attacking the WTC is on video on every news channel. You could probably have watched it live, just as you could watch both towers crumble. It is very likely the terrorists took over flying the planes as no US pilot - even with a gun pointed at his/her head - would steer into any occupied building."}, {"response": 66, "author": "Becka", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:53)", "body": "Karen: my Mom mentioned the book this morning. Ominous. I cannot explain my grief and sadness. My thoughts are with all those people, so, so many lives that are forever changed. I can't get out of my head that some people actually saw the horrified faces of those passengers in those hijacked planes - waiting to die in vain. And all those people who went to work and never came back. God bless us all."}, {"response": 67, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:04)", "body": "I'm in Atlanta. The area around CNN Center which is in downtown Atlanta, has been sealed off and all public access to CNN Center itself has been stopped. I guess as lots of the the world gets it global/US news coverage news via CNN, it is a facility the authorities don't want messed with. All malls, schools and universities here etc are closed. At 3pm Eastern, 10-12 international flights are still in-bound to the US and have been given clearance to land. They are all from the Pacific Rim countries in bound to West Coast Cities."}, {"response": 68, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:09)", "body": "President Bush just landed at Straegic Airforce Command in Nebraska. So it appears the President and his advisors, are not going to orchestrate a response to this catastrophe from the White House."}, {"response": 69, "author": "ToSch", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:12)", "body": "German TV Broadcasting stopped for 15 Minutes!!! \" A moment of silence for our Brothers and Sisters in the USA!!!\""}, {"response": 70, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:19)", "body": ""}, {"response": 71, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:41)", "body": "Inbound planes from the Orient are being allowd to land in Honolulu if they have gone beyond the point of no return, but with a fighter escort from Hickam AF Base. Nothing is outbound. Even the tour planes are grounded. Nothing is in the air!"}, {"response": 72, "author": "LauraT", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:42)", "body": "More stuff about the cellphone call, from an AP News story: \"An emergency dispatcher in Westmoreland County, Pa., received a cell phone call at 9:58 a.m. from a man who said he was a passenger locked in the bathroom of United Flight 93, said dispatch supervisor Glenn Cramer. \"We are being hijacked, we are being hijacked!\" Cramer quoted the man as saying. The man told dispatchers the plane \"was going down. He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane and we lost contact with him,\" Cramer said.\""}, {"response": 73, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:42)", "body": "So it appears the President and his advisors, are not going to orchestrate a response to this catastrophe from the White House. No. The book on these types of situations calls for moving the president, et al, around to *secure* locations. Unfortunately, our wonderfully free press is publicizing all the known locations for government backup ops. Why don't they just give the addresses?"}, {"response": 74, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:43)", "body": "The airports are closed until noon tomorrow BTW."}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:47)", "body": "Thanks Tobias and all who have expressed condolences. Actually we are all one little world. We need to relearn the art of getting along on a tiny planet. This American appreciates your concern very much!"}, {"response": 76, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:48)", "body": "Why don't they just give the addresses? I know! Geez, here they are saying he's in a secret location, in NEBRASKA??? hello???? They evacuated all of Boston today. The one question I ask, that no one an answer is HOW THE HELL DID HIJACKERS GET PAST SECURITY AT LOGAN????????????? (Makes one wonder about the security personnel at the airport now?)"}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (14:49)", "body": "Karen, exactly so. The set the plane down and suddenly we all knew exactly where he was! I hate that!!! The media needs to learn some responsibility!"}, {"response": 78, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:06)", "body": "stratfor.com: The Intelligence Failure 1745 GMT, 010911 By George Friedman As of this moment, what is clear is that a substantial number of civilian aircraft were hijacked this morning by pilots with sufficient ability to maneuver those multi-engine aircraft into collisions with major buildings. The flights originated at a number of airports. Each incident required the presence of at least one and probably more hijackers, each prepared to die in the attack. Mounting an attack of this sort is not simple. In the case of the World Trade Center, the collapse of the towers indicates massive delayed explosions. This means either the planes were loaded with explosives or that massive explosive charges were planted in the buildings to go off later. This is supposition, but a secondary explosion is a necessary factor for explaining the collapse. This means many individuals had to be involved in the operation. There had to be a coordinated effort spanning several continents, timed to occur at roughly the same time. At best guess, dozens of people had to be involved. Messages had to flow, coded or otherwise. Yet no human intelligence sources appear to have been among or near the conspirators. No significant messages were intercepted or decoded. For U.S. intelligence to have missed an operation of this magnitude indicates one of two things. First, the competence of U.S. intelligence is overrated or the willingness of policymakers to heed warnings has declined. In either case, the system is badly broken. Alternatively, the sophistication of terrorist counter-intelligence has improved to such an extent that the prior level of expertise bought to bear is simply no longer sufficient. Whether we are facing a decline in U.S. intelligence capability or an increase in counter-intelligence blocking the United States, Sept. 11, 2001, will go down as one of the major intelligence failures in U.S. history. George Friedman is the founder and chariman of STRATFOR."}, {"response": 79, "author": "LauraT", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:15)", "body": "From salon.com Sam Skinner, former transportation secretary under George Bush Sr., directed a \"security enhancement task force\" after Pan-Am flight 103 was shot down in 1988 over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing 270 people. I'm looking back on my experience after Pan Am flight 103. We created offices for security in several departments and we enhanced the methods at every airport, so I'm very, very surprised that they were able to accomplish this. The fact that they could get through three airports on four flights without anyone picking it up, shows that this was a very well-organized attack -- probably with some inside help. We've concentrated most of our time and energy on international aircraft. We focused on that threat because they may have been coming in from international airports where security was lax, or going to international locations, in which it would be easier to hide people who would profile as terrorists. So the fact that four domestic flights were hijacked is entirely shocking. I don't know of any scenario that allowed for this. This is not an amateur performance. It must have had support from strong organizations or governments. You would have had to have at least four inside people, at airports with access to planes with full fuel loads. You'd have to have them plant weapons at the same moment without being detected. And I find it hard to believe that any American pilot would deliberately fly into the building, so I also have to assume that they managed to get an experienced pilot on board. The timing of it is also amazing. All the planes were close to their targets but the crashes occurred at around the same time. This was very well-executed, and as a result, security measures as we know them today will be enhanced substantially. What that will be is too early to tell. But there will a lot of money spent on devices; I also think there will a higher scrutiny of employees and of cargo. You can get pretty draconian, and I think we'll see that whole new level of scrutiny. This is different than what we've ever seen in the past. This isn't just blowing up airplanes, this is using airplanes as a tool of death."}, {"response": 80, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:17)", "body": "Covering the Attack An Eyewitness Speaks By Ed Hashey Special to Poynter.org [Editor's note: Ed Hashey is a member of Poynter's visiting visual journalism faculty and an affiliate of Mario Garcia New Media Group.] I keep playing this back in my head. It just did not seem real, nor would I ever have imagined such a series of events happening this morning. It is true: Everything seemed to be in slow motion. I arrived here Sunday night with my wife. She was going to spend the whole week with me for my birthday. I reported to work yesterday as a consultant at The Wall Street Journal. Monday we just came up with the work load for the next few weeks. I came back to the hotel at midtown Manhattan, had dinner with my wife, Jeanne, where we discussed our day's events and plans for tomorrow. Jeanne said she want to come in with me to the downtown area on Tuesday morning and visit the top of the World Trade Center. She found a two-dollar discount coupon. The next morning we both ate breakfast and my wife decided she was not feeling well enough to join me this morning. So I left for work this morning at 8 a.m. I got on the number 9 train from Times Square, and read a chapter in my book. Before you knew it, it was 8:40 a.m. and I was at the World Trade Center station at Cortland Street. I got off the train, walked up to the street exit, and right as I saw daylight, I heard a huge explosion and then many pieces of metal debris, some the size of car hoods, were falling all around me and a very large crowd of people. We all responded by trying to go back in the train station exit, but there were too many people trying to exit, and so we all squeezed against the side of the World Trade Center. After a while, the debris stopped falling. We crossed Liberty street, and looked up and saw the first tower engulfed in flames. Eyewitnesses said a plane had crashed into the building high up. Then to my horror, I started seeing people jump to their deaths. As each person fell, I started praying. Many people fell, and we were not sure where to go or what to do. Then a loud noise of an aircraft became apparent, and I remember seeing a large airline jet smash into the next tower, followed by many flaming pieces falling all around us and many people being struck by debris and burning wreckage. I ran into an entryway of the building across the street and saw debris take out windows. A large crowd of pedestrians outside was hit as they were on their way to work. At that point the police ordered a mass evacuation, and I remember thinking this was a terrorist act. It was just too coincidental too be anything else. I decided to just start running north up Broadway. By the time I reached Chambers Street, I kept trying phones to call my wife and say I was OK, but nothing was working, all circuits busy, my cell phone did not work. So I just got on a train and ran to my hotel room. My wife was in tears, and I was shaking like a leaf. I as still shaking and very sad, then I witnessed the towers falling on the news channel, and I just stood there in disbelief. I am sad, angry, nervous, happy to be alive, but humbled by others' deaths today. I can't stop seeing the visions of bodies falling. I still pray for their families, but the world will never be the same again. I'm very sorry to be writing this."}, {"response": 81, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:18)", "body": "UK news is saying that the US President has gone to Nebraska because that's HQ when the USA is on a war footing. To all my old friends in the US, and the new ones I've made here on Spring recently, my thoughts and prayers are with you on this dreadful day. Take care, all of you."}, {"response": 82, "author": "winter", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:27)", "body": "HOW THE HELL DID HIJACKERS GET PAST SECURITY AT LOGAN????????????? Well, considering these were domestic flights, I suspect that security is a little more lax. I remember listening to an NPR story not too long ago about how airport security employees have such a high turn-around, and most aren't unionized.... I'm in LA where things are eerily quiet. Schools are still in session, but they've cancelled a lot of events tonight (the Madonna concert, Latin Grammys, MLB games, etc..). Some production studios (the major ones anyway) have also shut down for the day. I'm trying to get work done, but it's just too difficult."}, {"response": 83, "author": "autumn", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:27)", "body": "Alas, Babylon... Maryland has been declared a state of emergency. The military post S. works on is at its highest security level, there are massive amounts of agent stored there. Schools, colleges, programs, everything is closed. Hospitals have canceled all elective surgeries to stay ready for victims. I was in D.C. on Monday, sight-seeing with my aunt from Dallas. She tried to call us all afternoon, but there were no available circuits until 3:30. It is so quiet--there's not a car on the road (everyone's watching TV I guess) or a plane in the sky. Weird. I can't even process it all yet."}, {"response": 84, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:28)", "body": "pastebomb alert -- bruces *8-( that peculiar parade-going-in-the-wrong-direction has passed ... maybe we'll find out what that was, at some point ... people are now out of their offices for lunchtime, still almost no traffic, but the shops are open and people are hanging out watching the clouds of smoke ... the view towards the south is unimaginable ... much more jet activity ... -Ken ______________________________________________ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://post.openoffice.de/mailman/listinfo/spectre NYC, Fifth Avenue & 19th St. ... people are walking in large crowds in the middle of Fifth Ave., heading south, as if in a parade. Many more have been standing, looking south, for hours now, as if waiting for something else to happen. It's just clouds of smoke now where the WTC used to be... Some people have radios, portable tvs. Few people's cell phones are working. Apart from the downed antennae, the circuits are just jammed, regular phones are jammed, too. The only traffic seems to be ambulances. Apart from the sirens, it is eerily quiet for midday ... fighter jets are flying overhead now ... -Ken ______________________________________________ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://post.openoffice.de/mailman/listinfo/spectre another meaning for spectre.... Pandemonium envelops reporters incapable of expressing much more than shock. The highways in lower Manhattan are loaded with an exodus of refugees escaping downtown. Electricity has been shut don in lower Manhattan. Airports are in chaos. Everything has a surreal siege status. No official word other than a short statement from Bush early this morning. His plane from Florida will not go to Washington where Chaney is \"in charge\" at the White House. more soon, Tim ______________________________________________ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://post.openoffice.de/mailman/listinfo/spectre i can just report, that here at ZKM in karlsruhe we are also totally shocked, following the news on German tv and CNN for hours and don't know really what to say as angst is emerging of the events. what will happen now? will this event to exponentiate the use of terror between south and north, between east and west? most embarassing seems the clean, totally emotion-less face of G.W. Bush. cannot believe that this is an eqiuvalent reaction of his. (is he in drugs?) best to all, anke ______________________________________________ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://post.openoffice.de/mailman/listinfo/spectre ______________________________________________ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://post.openoffice.de/mailman/listinfo/spectre The national guard has been called up in NYC -- Its like a war zone, they are predicting the death toll as being in the thousands -- 40,000 people work in the two towers and were in the process of arriving for work when the first plane struck -- I witnessed the collapse of the second tower, from a roof about a half mile away-- the city is shut down -- there are still three or 4 more planes unaccounted for -- the pentagon was also attacked and severely damaged -- with large lost of life-- a plane was brought down near camp David -- I placed part of the blame for this turn of events on the Bush administration's failure to intervene in Palestine, his failure to send observers and his failure to condemn Israel's policy of assination against Palestine leaders. This is truly a horror. Saul ______________________________________________ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://post.openoffice.de/mailman/listinfo/spectre . y"}, {"response": 85, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:31)", "body": "Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ bruce -- i'm putting together a piece for tomorrow's paper on how the internet reacted/helped/hurt in the face of this disaster. i need help. if you see or hear anything that would feed into this story, please let me know. if you've got anything to say, please give me a quote. i am working out of my home. 540 347 1960. garreau@well.com or garreauj@washpost.com. i'll need to start writing 4-ish eastern time, although i can push later than that for good stuff. please pass the word to anybody else who can help. thanx. joel Joel Garreau The Washington Post 202 334 6269 voice 202 334 5587 fax garreauj@washpost.com \"But I keep hitting these typewriter keys. What a magician is the subconscious. If only it would work regular hours.\" -- Raymond Chandler, \"The Long Goodbye\" 21ST CENTURY DETERRENCE AND TODAY'S ATTACKS Washington, D.C., September 11/PRNEWSWIRE/ -- Responding to today's attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Robert David Steele, author of ON INTELLIGENCE: Spies and Secrecy in an Open World (AFCEA, 2000), said: \"The tragedy of today's coordinated attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon--with other targets expected shortly--must be regarded as the Pearl Harbor of the 21st Century. Our national leaders have wasted ten years since the end of the Cold War, failing to understand that it is instability, poverty, oppression, disease, and cultural conflict that require the USA to expend billions of dollars on stabilizing and nurturing the Whole Earth.\" Mr. Steele goes on to note, \"\"As Robert McNamara and others have pointed out, 'at least two thirds of the world's people--Chinese, Russian, Indians, Muslims, and Africans'--see the United States as the single greatest threat to their societies, because of our 'intrusive, interventionist, exploitative, unilateralist, hegemonic, hypocritical practices' of 'economic imperialism' and 'intellectual colonialism'.\" The capitalist party is over. It is time to give Colin Powell what he needs to save the world--only by saving the world can we save America.\" On this occasion Steele and Professor Stephen Cimbala have re-released their earlier warning on the need for a new concept of deterrence in the 21st Century. Their joint communiqu can be downloaded quickly (539 words) from http://www.oss.net/Papers/white/TodaysAttacks.doc . Mr. Steele concludes: \"America is the greatest country in the world, but we have lost sight of our moral foundations, failed to listen to our great strategists Zbigniew Brzezinski and Stephen Metz, and completely closed down the U.S. Department of State and our foreign assistance endeavors. It is time for a Global Marshal Plan that respects the fact that the Whole Earth is a closed system; that does not trivialize today's attacks as terrorist events; and that wakes up to the fact that money cannot buy security in a world where asymmetric power is now in the hands of the people that we have been ignoring and sidelining for over a century.\" Mr. Steele is available for telephone interviews at (703) 242-1700. His high-resolution photograph can be downloaded from http://www.oss.net/Papers/white/AuthorPhoto.gif . Various white papers on the 21st Century threat and what to do about it are at http://www.oss.net/White.html . SOURCE: Open Source Solutions, Inc. -0- 09/11/2001 /CONTACT: Robert Steele, OSS CEO, 703-242-1700, or bear@oss.net/ /Web site: www.oss.net"}, {"response": 86, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:35)", "body": "Ted Olsen's wife Barbara, ironically, was on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. ABC News reported that a KAL airliner had been \"forced down\" and boarded by the military in Canada - not sure when. Barbara Olsen was able to contact her husband by cell phone, and reported that all the passengers had been herded to the rear of the aircraft."}, {"response": 87, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:41)", "body": "Apparently its being suggested now that the 4th plane, that crashed near Pittsburgh, was intercepted and brought down by US forces after it failed to respond to air traffic control and refused to identify itself, and it was on a heading for Camp David - am in UK but have just had this from a friend in Chicago - does anyone know if this is true?"}, {"response": 88, "author": "moulton", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:42)", "body": "Bush is at Offutt AFB in Omaha, home of the Strategic Air Command. Boston has not been evacuated. Logan Airport has been closed and people have been asked to leave. The only aircraft flying over Boston today are delta-wing military aircraft, perhaps an F-15 or F-16. I'm gonna guess that the hijackers somehow disabled the crew, perhaps with gas, which would be easy enough to get through security, and then took over the controls of the plane. This is just my own personal speculation. I expect our nation will now enter a phase of crisis fatigue."}, {"response": 89, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:44)", "body": "Apparently its being suggested now that the 4th plane, that crashed near Pittsburgh, was intercepted and brought down by US forces after it failed to respond to air traffic control and refused to identify itself, and it was on a heading for Camp David - am in UK but have just had this from a friend in Chicago - does anyone know if this is true?"}, {"response": 90, "author": "moulton", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:45)", "body": "I have heard no reliable reports of how the fourth plane went down near Pittsburgh, but it's possible that it was forced down by an interceptor, as this plane was on a considerably later timetable than the first three. The military would have had time to respond."}, {"response": 91, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:45)", "body": "A govt spokesperson has just refuted that rumor about shooting down the plane."}, {"response": 92, "author": "LauraT", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:46)", "body": "Rachael, all the info I've heard about the Pittsburgh plane has been unconfirmed, but I've also heard the same thing. Hopefully there will be more details later."}, {"response": 93, "author": "moulton", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:46)", "body": "Terry, is your server on GMT?"}, {"response": 94, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:46)", "body": "Outside Omaha, Nebraska is the Strategic Air Command. Then there is Norad just outside of Colorado Springs. Been there. They don't welcome stangers!"}, {"response": 95, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:48)", "body": "from unidentified source: An attorney named Tom Humphries is being interviewed by Jennings now. He was on the 57th floor in one of the buildings--they cut into the interview in progress so I'm not sure which one--oh, it would have been the first building hit. 57th floor. Took him 45 minutes to get down the staircase. He said people were calm, and helping each other. Asked about whether there were lights, he said, \"Last time there weren't, this time there were.\" (God. \"Last time.\") Only one stairwell was open, the others were blocked by smoke. The first building took some time before it imploded, and he thinks a large number of people got out. (The second building got hit later and collapsed sooner. I hope they were already evacuating after the first building was hit.) Jennings: \"I must say I'm amazed how calm you are, after having been in the first bombing in 1993 and now this.\" Humphries chuckles briefly. \"I'm happy to be here.\" Humphries says the evacuation down one narrow stairway was \"a recipe for disaster\" but everyone's calmness kept it from becoming one. He talked to someone from Tower 2, who was on the 88th floor. They started evacuating after Tower 1 was hit, and that person got out. He says, \"I think the tragedy is, the police and fire people who were trying to help people were right under the building when that happened\"--the collapse--\"They were at ground zero.\" I think this simple interview has started to break through my wall of shock. Listening to a very calm man who was in the building and walked down 57 floors with thousands of heroically self-composed people describe that. I am, goddamnit, starting to believe this."}, {"response": 96, "author": "moulton", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:49)", "body": "Terry, is your server on GMT?"}, {"response": 97, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:49)", "body": "Yeah, I need to fix that again. I keep setting it for CST and it reverts to GMT."}, {"response": 98, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:53)", "body": "More unidentified reports: source a: Some terrorism experts are saying that the only ones who could pull this off are the CIA-trained fundamentalist terrorists in afganistan... we taught them to take down the local great satan -- the USSR -- and now they are turning their attention to the rilly rilly great satan. They do not have headquarters. they do not have known leaders. they are good with technology. They can organize. they are willing to die. they don't care if someone else takes the blame. This second hand from someone who is interviewing experts and pundits. source b: My guess is that the hijackers flew first class, maybe spent some time in the Red Carpet Club before boarding the flights, and didn't appear to be palestinian freedom fighters. Maybe Japanese businessmen if the announcement by the Japanese Red Army is accurate. And another report: BBC News reporting that a building close to the site of the WTC is at risk of collapse as a result of the towers collapsing."}, {"response": 99, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:55)", "body": "Outside Omaha, Nebraska is the Strategic Air Command. Then there is Norad just outside of Colorado Springs. Been there. They don't welcome stangers!"}, {"response": 100, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (15:57)", "body": "They are identifying it as Building 7"}, {"response": 101, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:00)", "body": "BBC suggested that the hijackers were probably domestic passengers not international, ie boarded in the US, because passports aren't needed for internal flights (obviously)"}, {"response": 102, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:00)", "body": "This just in, in a day full of \"this just in's\" BBC News reporting that a building close to the site of the WTC is at risk of collapse as a result of the towers collapsing. So is NPR. BBC now reporting that the building is the 40 storey Sallmon Bros building. And that it has collpased now."}, {"response": 103, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:07)", "body": "No other building has collapsed yet."}, {"response": 104, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:08)", "body": "blood donor centres running low - all who can are urged to donate as a matter of urgency"}, {"response": 105, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:25)", "body": "The third building (#7) has collapsed. CNN just confirmed. Also says there are fears about another (#5). CNN is interviewing Tom Clancy now."}, {"response": 106, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:26)", "body": "I don't know if you have seen this: Knives on Board (techstudies2000) Sep 11, 16:49 Tuesday Sept. 11, 2001; 4:35 p.m. EDT Flight Attendants Stabbed Aboard Twin Tower Kamikaze Plane A violent struggle with knife-wielding terrorists took place outside the cockpit of one of two hijacked planes before it slammed into the World Trade Center Tuesday morning, a flight attendant on board reported to American Airlines before her death. \"A flight attendant on that plane was apparently able to call the American Airlines operations center to tell them that two flight attendants had been stabbed and that the perpetrators had broken into the flight deck,\" ABC Radio News reported. The plane was enroute from Boston to Los Angeles when it was commandeered by terrorists for its kamikaze mission."}, {"response": 107, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:28)", "body": "That last building was 47 stories tall."}, {"response": 108, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:31)", "body": "CNN is now showing some new closeup footage (from PAX TV) of the second plane hitting. What it shows is the plane going right into the building and possibly coming through the other side."}, {"response": 109, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:32)", "body": "As to the Pittsburgh plane being brought down \"intentionally\"....I heard that its suspected target was Camp David and, that fighter jets took it down before it could reach its target. I have no problem understanding how these terrorists and their weapons, could get past airport security at Logan and Dulles, if their security is anything like it is here in Atlanta. Totally disinterested kids, poorly trained and motivated man the security check points here. It would take very little effort to \"sneak\" something past them. The security level at US airports here in the US is very, very, very minimal compared to that at European airports. In Europe, only passengers can enter the Departure Concourse and Lounges. You can not meet someone directly off a plane in Europe, the way you can over here. Also, in Europe you go thru many, many checkpoints and security before you get on your flight. I just wish to God, US airports were as fussy. Twoyearsago I flew from the US to Ireland via London, but I flew back via Glasgow. As I was sitting in the airport in Glasgow, waiting for my flight to Chicago,I was paged on the airport intercom to report back to the American Airlines desk. I was then grilled by the security forces for 2 hours in a tiny little room, which terrifed me witless. Apparantly, an Irish person entering the UK thru one airport and exiting thru another, raised a red flag on some security services computer and I was deemed a \"terrorist threat\". As the IRA was very active in the UK at the time, I did my best to understand that these were just people who were doing their job. After my nerves and heart rate returned to normal, I was actually kind of happy that the security forces were taking such \"extreme\" steps to ensure the safety of airline passengers. I would love to see US airports be equally vigilant. Sorry if I am waffleing....I'm just at a loss, like the rest of you, in trying to comprehend the horror of this carnage."}, {"response": 110, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:49)", "body": "ABC's Claire Shipman reporting the President is on his way to Washington and will make a statement tonight; \"We're told he's angry about what happened and very much wants to make a statement\". Congressional leaders also returning from their safe haven, also will make statements. \"There's apparently a real premium here in Washington among the leaders of presenting a face of business as usual,\" she says. The leadership has been warned of the risk but feels it's important to be in Washington. The President will be landing in D.C. where they feel the airspace is as safe as anywhere in the nation. Vice President Cheney will then be removed from the White House as a precaution, though the First Lady is expected to join her husband."}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:53)", "body": "To: \"Red Rock Eater News Service\" Subject: [RRE]attack From: Phil Agre Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:58:22 -0700 Here are some more URL's relating to the attacks this morning. a backup site that generally works when cnn.com does not http://robots.cnn.com/ video of the second plane in New York high bandwidth: http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/091101plane1-large.html low bandwidth: http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/091101plane1-small.html people's stories http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAVZWE2IRC.html Hotline from the National Journal can be accessed today for free http://hotlinescoop.com/web/content/hotline.htm http://nationaljournal.com/pubs/hotline/extra/lastcall/ this site will register people who are safe http://do.millennium.berkeley.edu/ you can query this site to search for people http://do.millennium.berkeley.edu/find.php military analysis http://www.janes.com/ photos from Brooklyn of the buildings collapsing http://www.indigo23.com/ an architect discussing how the buildings collapsed http://home.actlab.utexas.edu/pipermail/discuss/2001-September/000226.html Engineers Shocked By Towers Collapse http://chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-010911kamin-towers.story"}, {"response": 112, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:54)", "body": "a great archive of World Trade Center stuff at"}, {"response": 113, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:58)", "body": "7 WT is the one that just collapsed. I was in that building just a few months ago, visiting my friend. He works (or worked...I don't know if he's ok yet...I hate this) for the city Office of Emergency Management. He took me into the \"Bunker\" where the command center was. it was built to withstand the blast of a nuclear bomb, a category 5 hurricane, and some other disasters. I don't think they ever thought that tower 1 would collapse onto it. they have cut us off on Long Island. The only way we can get off (if we needed to) are the 2 Connecticut ferries from Pt. Jefferson and Orient Point. They have closed all of the highways, and most of the schools. People are panicing, unfortunately...long lines at the supermarket, gas stations (which I did myself), etc. If this is what war feels like... *sob* thank you all for being here and reading this, and for all of your thoughts. it helps more than you know."}, {"response": 114, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:58)", "body": "Regarding the stability of the towers: From Before foundation excavation began, the 500 x 1,000-ft site was enclosed by a 3-ft-thick, 70-ft-high concrete cutoff wall built by the slurry trench wall method and keyed 3 ft into rock. Excavation was complicated by two nearby subway tubes that had to be supported without service interruption. A six-level basement was built in the foundation hole. Excavation of 1.2 million cu yd of earth and rock created $90 million of real estate for project owner, the Port of New York Authority. Instead of being trucked off for disposal, spoil was used to create 23 acres of fill in the Hudson River adjacent to the WTC site. It has since been developed as Battery Park City. The twin towers had the world's highest load-bearing walls. Seattle-based structural engineer Worthington, Skilling, Helle and Jackson designed them as vertical cantilevered steel tubes. Exterior columns are 14-in. square hollow box sections spaced 39 in. center-to-center. Spandrels welded to the columns at each floor make them into huge Vierendeel trusses. Each tower is 208 x 208 ft with a column-free interior between the outer walls and the 79-ft x 139-ft core."}, {"response": 115, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (16:58)", "body": "further to Beth's post above about security, here's an article from the BBC comparing security at US and UK airports - having been pulled over twice in the UK as a frequent UK/Ireland flyer, one body search, one bag search, I'd agree its annoying at the time, but then you think you'd rather be safe and you're glad it happens ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1538000/1538682.stm"}, {"response": 116, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (17:01)", "body": "There are explosions in Kabul now. Missiles, tracer fire. Antiaircraft fire."}, {"response": 117, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (17:08)", "body": "4 F-16s just flew over my house... and now Kabul... Lord help us all."}, {"response": 118, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (20:48)", "body": "Some incredible photos. http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist1.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist2.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist3.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist4.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist5.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist6.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist7.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist8.jpg http://www.alternet.org/graphics/story_hirez/terrorist9.jpg"}, {"response": 119, "author": "WinniePeg", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (20:50)", "body": "I am still in shock over today's events and wondering how this could have happened. I am in Canada and think this is the first time I have EVER heard of the Cdn/USA border being closed. I am amazed at how much security has gone into place so quickly. All airports shut down (only taking diverted overseas flights that were to land in U.S.) In our small city, streets to airport are all blocked--no one allowed into or out of airport. Extra police/customs are in place at border already. Cdn.fighter jets had to escort two Korean Air/Lines into Whitehorse airport today when they did not respond to hail. In a total state of disbelieve! HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN??"}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (20:54)", "body": "San Francisco Bay and its bridges and industries and Alameda are all being partolled by AWACS planes this night. There are frightened citizens there, and I worry for them, as well. We are ALL in a state of total disbelief. They have stopped selling stuff on QVC and HSC out of respect... That has to be a first."}, {"response": 121, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (21:06)", "body": "It happened because we didn't answer many wake up calls. It happened because minimum wage people do security at airports. It happened because we were thinking about a missle defense system instead of tightening up our obvious security holes. Ebay is full of people selling ghoulish mementos and wtc related domain names. I'm still in shock, I've been channel surfing the major networks, ABC is the only one that hasn't given this whole thing a big garish name. Peter Jennings and Diane Sawyer are doing some pretty good, calm, balanced coverage. Bush's speech made it clear we won't just go after the terrorists but those harboring the terrorists. This is the beginning of a campaign on worldwide terror."}, {"response": 122, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (21:08)", "body": "http://news.mpr.org/features/200109/11_newsroom_terrorist/ has photos and also live radio clips. The image of the plane slicing through (from the other side of the building) is shocking. It's in the national images slideshow, the caption reads: \"An amateur photographer was snapping a photograph of the damage to one World Trade Center tower at the instant when a second airliner crashed into the other tower. (credit pending) \" From: info@kauf.com Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:47:49 +0200 To: david@trufun.com Subject: Press release: Help for terror victims by Internet Ladies and Gentlemen Victims and their relatives of the terrorist attacks can get help by Internet. At http://www.wtchelp.com or http://66.33.42.252 they can add a special notice for searching a person and get further information. The Internet page was developed by the company Kaufcom for the WTC Help Organization. Within shortest time, further information and auxiliary functions will be provided to offer a fast and easy help. The WTC Help Organization was found at the 11th of September 2001. Our goal is it to support the victims and their relatives with the best possible help by using the new medias. The WTC Help Organization stays in contact with many other organisations. Patrick Hofer WTC-Help Organization Neue Winterthurerstr. 30 CH-8305 Dietlikon Switzerland Fax: +41 1 888 43 16 Email:hofer@kaufcom.ch"}, {"response": 123, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (21:15)", "body": "Orrin Hatch said a month a go they knew there was going to be a big attack. Barbara Walters is reporting this and Peter Jennings is appealing on him to explain this more clearly. Hatch is saying he has the real data that Ohsama Bin Ladin did this. He's saying we have about 24 hours to act and round up the terrorists before they go underground."}, {"response": 124, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (21:40)", "body": "There is not a message board anywhere that has not talked about this. Every single Yahoo club to which I belong is talking about it. Mostly how numb everyone feels. Non-US people reacting with sadness and condolences and the same determination to win this match. Don't mess with those I love. I am ready to do what must be done!!!"}, {"response": 125, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (21:53)", "body": "From Reuters"}, {"response": 126, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (21:54)", "body": "http://reuters.com/ go look at the large photo... it is astounging!"}, {"response": 127, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (22:09)", "body": "Subject: report from NYC... Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:36 PM From: Michael McDonough To: Bruce Sterling It started at 8:45 AM with the missile-like scream of something flying too low and fast across the city's heart, followed by a thump that shook the ground. Something is wrong. Minutes later, a second thump. The city empties into the streets. TVs come alive with live video feeds of the planes striking the south sides of the towers. I photograph the fires from my SoHo roof, capturing the north sides on film. The fire has penetrated the towers and is licking up the facades, bright orange tongues through inky black smoke. But the towers are not the towers, they are one tower and one smoky billow the size of an atomic cloud. People are jumping from the upper stories of the remaining tower. A short time later, now on the streets, my wife and I are talking to strangers, exchanging information got from blaring car radios. Mid-sentence, the second tower implodes before our eyes, only a few blocks away, glass shards blowing out from the smoky, collapsing core. Like nightmarish snow, they glisten and sparkle, then disappear. On a normal day, over 100,000 persons pass through the WTC. We have just seen a large number of them vaporized. Debris, chunks of the buildings the size of city buses and automobiles rain down onto the streets of Lower Manhattan. The collapses at first take the tops of the towers. In a matter of seconds, the remaining, lower reaches are infernos. The facades of the towers have fallen onto the surrounding streets. A woman in the hotel next to the towers reports seeing legions of firefighters, police, and medical personnel disappeared beneath the rubble in an instant. Now the explosions have killed not only those in the towers, but those trying to save them on the ground. Elsewhere in the city, as the day grinds on, businesses and shops are closed, locked tight with security gates in place. All civilian vehicular transportation in and out of the city stops. The tunnels are sealed off and empty. The bridges are available for those who want to hike out of the city. At early evening I walk the police cordons around lower Manhattan. On the local streets, urgent laser printed pleas for blood donations are taped to mailboxes and street lamps. Black SUVs with darkened windows scream through intersections in long lines, with sirens and flashing lights. Ambulances from New Jersey and Long Island, and Upstate New York--townships 60 miles and more outside of New York City--course the streets; 20, 30 at a time, they move, heading north to hospitals and triage centers. Military planes dart overhead, then disappear. The city is an uneasy silence broken on occasion by piecing, crackling sounds, warnings and urgent communications. Thousands of people stare blank-eyed and quiet as they watch the buildings all over downtown burn. Dozens of construction workers loaded on trucks--welding kits, steel barriers, men and material--head south, to ground zero. Fire engines line the west side arterial roads, empty, their occupants fighting the out-of-control fires on foot. Military vehicles start to appear. The trucks and cars near the center are shattered, crushed, lost in a hail of ash and metal and concrete. New fires start. Smoke billows easterly, against white smoke against the blue sky of our mid-September day. More buildings are burning. Another flaming, 40 story pile falls. We are helpless; we watch. Cars are burning. Mercury from a million fluorescent lights, PCBs from miles of electrical components, dioxin from football fields of synthetic carpets and miles of PVC piping placed throughout the complex, a toxic, now gray soup belching from the flaming, collapsing hulks. It is as if the city has lost its arms, and is staring blankly at where they used to be, finding flaming, smoking voids in their stead. Michael McDonough New York City 9/11"}, {"response": 128, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (22:15)", "body": "from another board: scutmonkey Posted On 09/11/01 07:55PM I have a friend that works for Delta Airlines HQ here in Atlanta that person had a couple things to say. One is that the plane over Pennsylvania was intentionally run into the ground by the pilot. All four of those aircraft had radio communications and were describing what was happening at least in the beginning. They issued special emergency codes as well. The pilots locked the cabin doors, but there is a key with the flight attendants that is hidden in a different place on each flight. The terrorist began stabbing crew members and passengers until someone told them where it was. The crew believed that this was a typical hostage and ransom situation and gave up the keys. When the pilots of the Pennsylvania plane realized it wasn't from the other incidents they crashed the jet."}, {"response": 129, "author": "laughingsky", "date": "Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (22:36)", "body": "I went into a hospital meeting at 7:30am and came out at 9:00am (CST) this a.m., only to discover that the world was suddenly going to hell! Here in middle Tennessee, the lines are growing longer outside the gas stations...the small town streets are crowded with cars trying to fill up and beat the iminent gas hikes that are rumored to occur by morning. A neighbor works close to the Tennessee/Alabama line and was told that gas in Alabama had shot up to $10.00 a gallon.....jeez....BTW, Thanks to all of you who have expressed condolences on this board. Your support is greatly needed and appreciated!"}, {"response": 130, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (00:56)", "body": "The Boston Herald is breaking some amazing details: WAR: Hub terror suspects ID'd: Bush vows retaliation after devestating attack by Ed Hayward, Tom Farmer and Cosmo Macero Jr. Wednesday, September 12, 2001 Authorities in Massachusetts identified at least five Arab men as suspects in yesterday's terror attacks launched from Logan International Airport, seizing in the central parking garage a car laden with Arabic-language flight training manuals, sources said last night. Two of the men, whose passports were traced to the United Arab Emirates, were brothers, one of whom was a trained pilot, a source told the Herald, speaking on condition of anonymity. At least two other suspects flew to Logan yesterday from Portland, Maine, where authorities believe they had traveled after crossing over from Canada recently. Once in the air, the hijackers in one plane began killing flight attendants in order to lure a pilot from the cockpit and seize the plane, said one source. ``They started killing stewardesses in the back of the plane as a diversion. The pilot came back to help and that is how they got into the cockpit,'' said the source. The source could not specify whether those events took place on the American Airlines flight that left Logan, or the United Airlines flight. Both planes were plunged into the World Trade Center roughly an hour after they departed Boston. The suspects had no guns, but used shaving kits and other carry-on luggage to smuggle knife-like weapons made up of plastic handles embedded with razor blades, sources familiar with last night's developments said. That finding is consistent with reports of a flight attendant's cell-phone call from one of the doomed airliners. ``People were calling from the plane saying they were getting killed, calling 911,'' said one source. ``One stewardess called her husband to say goodbye.'' Authorities were led to the rental car by a civilian who got into an altercation with several Arab men as they were parking their car, identified by sources as a Mitsubishi sedan. The man, whose name was not available last night, called state police from an out-of-state airport after his own flight landed yesterday and he learned planes hijacked from Logan had been involved in attacks that toppled the World Trade Center's twin towers, crippled the Pentagon and downed another airliner in Pennsylvania. The car, rented from National Rental Car, was secured yesterday by the FBI and authorities have prepared a search warrant. It was unclear when the warrant would be served. State police interviewed more than 130 people at the airport yesterday, as America launched what is expected to be the largest criminal investigation in its history. Investigators suspect the two brothers identified by Bay State investigators were aboard United Airlines Flight 175. The terror plot included the hijacking and crashing of four airliners, including one into the Pentagon, where the Arlington, Va., fire chief estimated the death toll at up to 800. In New York last night, Mayor Rudolph Guiliani told reporters some people are alive in the rubble of the trade center complex, and there was an unconfirmed report of a cop being pulled out alive last night. There was also a report that survivors trapped in the collapsed buildings were making cell-phone calls. A horrified nation witnessed the shocking carnage as the World Trade Center's ``North Tower'' burned and exploded after it was struck just before 9 a.m. by Los Angeles-bound American Airlines Flight 11, which departed Boston's Logan Airport at 7:59 a.m. with 81 passengers, two pilots and nine flight attendants. A second jet - United Airlines Flight 175, that left Logan for L.A. at 8:14 a.m. carrying 56 passengers, seven attendants and two pilots - was captured on video as it sliced through the ``South Tower'' and unleashed a massive fireball just after 9 a.m. Just moments before the first crash, air traffic controllers heard the lone voice of the terror plot speaking from the cockpit of one doomed aircraft. ``We have more planes, we have other planes,'' a voice alleged to be that of a hijacker could be heard saying through a microphone activated by a pilot of American Airlines Flight 11, the Christian Science Monitor reported on its Web site. Establishing the death toll could take weeks. The four airliners alone carried 266 people, none known to survive. At the Pentagon, as many as 800 people could be dead, including plane victims. Roughly 50,000 people worked at the World Trade Center and there was an hour available for evacuations. But the toll already appeared staggering for the men and women who worked to save lives. A firefighters union official said an estimated 200 firefighters had died. An estimated 87 police officers were missing. Within two hours of the initial Trade Center crash, the fiery nightmare gave way to mind-numbing grief, as both towers imploded, raining thick dust, glass shards, metal chunks and human remains on the streets below. As t"}, {"response": 131, "author": "Renata", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (02:43)", "body": "This is beyond words, and beyond understanding. I'm still trying to find words to tell you what I feel about the unspeakable, unimaginable. My thoughts are with all who suffer, the innocent victims, and their families and friends, and with the American people. I send my heartfelt condolences from Germany - we are all with you. Whatever the intention was of this senseless killing, it goes empty: it will unite - has already united - all freedom-loving people all over the world. Take care all of you. Renate"}, {"response": 132, "author": "Anek", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (03:44)", "body": "I was at work yesterday when my colleague called me to tell that WTC in NY collapsed and that Pentagon was on fire. I couldn't believe in it. I thought he told me a stupid joke. Everything reminded of some films or books, but not real life. But then I went to news website and the truth struck me with shock. Today I've read your news reports and can't stop thinking about the people trapped in the burning building and those who were caugh in the hijacked planes. The senseless cruelty and detailed preparation of the operation is sth beyond my understanding. I'm joining in grief with everyone and I do hope than anything like this will not happen again."}, {"response": 133, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (03:47)", "body": "More on United Flight 93 from today's Miami Herald: Passenger called wife from cell phone shortly before Pittsburgh crash By Paul Rogers and Lisa Fernandez Knight Ridder SAN JOSE, Calif. (12:30 a.m. EDT) -- It might have been the final resistance of a doomed pilot. Or a heroic struggle by a Bay Area passenger. Or a miscalculation by terrorists. But if there was one glimmer of good news amid the numbing enormity of Tuesday's terrorist attacks, it shined in the wreckage of a United Airlines 757, a flight once bound for San Francisco and instead now strewn across a remote field in the coal country of southwestern Pennsylvania. Unlike three other commercial jets that were purposely slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, United Flight 93, for some reason yet unknown, did not hit a terrorist's target Tuesday morning and did not kill thousands of people. The flight crashed instead at 10:06 a.m. EDT in a wooded area 70 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, two hours after it left Newark, N.J. All 45 people on board were killed, said Bill Crowley, a special agent with the FBI in Pittsburgh. Among them were 38 passengers, five flight attendents and two pilots. Minutes before the fiery impact, at least two passengers telephoned from the plane. One man phoned 911, yelling to dispatchers \"We are being hijacked! We are being hijacked!'' before the signal was lost. The other, Tom Burnett, 38, the vice president of a Pleasanton, Calif., medical devices company and father of three children, called his wife, Deena, and may have indicated he and other passengers were about to attempt to overpower the hijackers. Burnett told his wife that somebody on the plane had been stabbed, said Father Frank Colacicco, of St. Isidore's Church in Danville. \"We're all gonna die, but three of us are going to do something,'' Burnett told his wife, according to Colacicco. He added: \"I love you honey'' before the call ended. FBI agents were interviewing members of the family Tuesday night. The FBI said that 40 agents and more than 150 other investigators were combing the crash site as darkness fell, including agents from the Department of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, the FAA and the Pennsylvania State Police. Like the three other doomed jets that took off, and then suddenly veered off course, United Flight 93 sharply turned south after nearing Cleveland. One Congressman told Knight Ridder that some investigators believe the plane's hijackers were attempting to crash into either Camp David, the presidential retreat located 80 miles south of the crash site, at Thurmond, Maryland, or the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. \"There was concern that it was heading in the direction of Washington, D.C.,'' said Rep. Jim Moran, D-Virginia. Moran said that Capitol police named the two potential targets in a briefing he received from them. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, described Tuesday as a national tragedy and the scope is only just beginning to sink in. \"At Pearl Harbor, there were 2,000 people killed,'' Feinstein said. \"This could be tens of thousands.'' United Airlines did not release the passenger list from Flight 93 on Tuesday. At least one other Bay Area resident was confirmed dead, a female student at Santa Clara University. The name of the woman, a junior, was not being released, pending notification of her family, said Barry Holtzclaw, a spokesman for the university. \"I'm shattered by this,'' said Holtzclaw. \"''The scale of it, the enormity of it, the buildings and the loss off life. The mood of the campus tomorrow will be very very somber.'' It may be weeks before it is known what happened in the doomed flight, experts said. \"It fits the same pattern of the other ones,'' said a high-ranking FAA official. \"The moves of the plane are similar to what you would see if a struggle or some violent problem occurred in the cockpit.'' Gary Joseph, who co-pilots United 747-400 flights from San Francisco to Shanghai, said he believes the pilots aboard Flight 93 tried to prevent the terrorists from taking control of the aircraft. \"They train you to do whatever they say, but that only goes so far,'' Joseph said. \"If he had any idea what they were planning, I'm sure he tried to fight them off.'' Joseph said a pilot may try to make sharp turns and dive . . . much the way initial radar records show the plane did in its final minutes in the air . . . to throw a would-be hijacker off balance. \"There's been cases where they do that and get control back of the plane. But a jet can only take so much of a dive before it starts to fall apart, I don't know.'' Joseph said it wasn't clear whether the crew was a San Francisco-based one or a New York-based group, because the airline has crews stationed in each city. No family members showed up at San Francisco International Airport to greet the passengers at its normal 11:15 a.m. arrival time, said Ron Wilson, spokesman for San Francisco International Airport. That is possibl"}, {"response": 134, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (05:10)", "body": "Hi all First off, I extend my deepest sympathy to all who lost loved ones in today cowardly attacks. Second I call for a cool headed response (NOT one of a deranged lunatic hopping around like a crazed devil barking orders). I know that many of you are outraged and that some want war, but BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THIS: HASTE NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL PAY OR BEGIN TO PAY FOR WHAT HAPPENED. Be patient and let the United States Government establish it's priorities and wait until they find AND confirm the culprits. Then AND ONLY THEN, will it be safe to let the Pentagon of the leash. I am still coming to grips tonight some 14 hours after Mum tipped me off that the WTC twin towers had been destroyed by a 767 and a 757 and that the Pentagon had been hit by another 767. Although I now understand what happened the SHEER scale of planning that must have gone into the attacks, tell me one thing only: The person/s who masterminded this evil have a monumental hatred for all things American. They are the sort of people who should be put on show trial in front of the whole nation, and assuming they are found guilty, should be executed in public. Rob"}, {"response": 135, "author": "olzuza", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (08:42)", "body": "Hello everyone, I am from Poland, when I heard the news yesterday I was stunned - I thought it was a kind of a joke and all those pictures which looked like taken from some movie. I am still in shock as well as my family and friends. I extend my sympathy too all Americans and people who lost someone important and loved. It's a tragedy for whole world and I hope that nothing else like this would never take place. take care all of you who are in the middle of this tragedy and please,remember that whole civilizated world is with you. Love, Alexandra"}, {"response": 136, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (09:18)", "body": "\"Taliban rulers deny bin Laden's involvement\" http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/taliban-reax.htm Olzuza, we are all feeling the sadness today, yesterday we were numb with the shock of this horrible attack on America. This is unprecedented, the biggest thing that has happened in my lifetime. unidentified source: \"there's a specific code (7700) a pilot dials in when being hijacked, which causes all sorts of bells and whistles to go off on a controller's screen. *That* would be the reason those guys made them turn them off. Not stupid, at all. Vile, despicable cretins, yes. A plane goes off course, there's a time lag to 1) notice it, 2) inquire, 3) request correction or further explanation, 4) decide there's a threat, 5) measure its gravity, and 6) take action. The first five steps are covered by dialing-in 7700, a motion in the cockpit that's not inconsistent with any other miscellaneous fiddling with knobs and switches necessary to fly the plane."}, {"response": 137, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (09:28)", "body": "http://www.wi2600.org/mediawhore/mirrors/sept-11-problems/asu/www.asu.net/wtc/otherpics/wtc35.jpg http://www.wi2600.org/mediawhore/mirrors/sept-11-problems/asu/www.asu.net/wtc/otherpics/ This one is horrible: http://www.wi2600.org/mediawhore/mirrors/sept-11-problems/asu/www.asu.net/wtc/otherpics/wtc55.jpg A tower about to fall:"}, {"response": 138, "author": "curious", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (09:45)", "body": "To find out more about donating online, check: Red Cross and Helping.org"}, {"response": 139, "author": "curious", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (09:46)", "body": "oops, typo, the Red Cross is located at http://www.redcross.org/"}, {"response": 140, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (10:11)", "body": "I just can't watch TV anymore. I have to take a break from the unending surreal shots of the planes hitting the towers. Those of you at Drool know I'm from the NY area. As a child, I watched the towers go up. Yesterday I watched them come down. Like Liz, I know people who worked there and in the nearby Wall St. area. If you've ever visited downtown NYC, you saw the size of these buildings. If you went up to Windows on the World, the public restaurant, you experienced how high they were. Yesterday, one of our local newscasters felt himself important enough to provide encouragement by declaring 'we made it through Oklahoma City and Columbine and we'll make it through this.' Not to minimize those other tragedies, but the enormous numbers of victims who lost their lives yesterday cannot be compared to those other incidents. I now live outside DC (quite a distance from the Pentagon). Our normally quiet skies were filled with military aircraft yesterday. All's quiet again today. My sister works in upper Manhattan. I'm still trying to find out if she made it out of the city last night. I'll be back to the TV soon because I am fascinated by reports about the many calls made from the planes, how the FBI is progressing in their investigation (too much too little too late, IMO), information as to how these sociopaths pulled this off and stories from the survivors. Lastly, I am trying to wrap my mind's eye around a picture of the NYC skyline without the towers. I drove past them on the Jersey side every day for years. I could see them from almost every town in which I've lived. I saw them this past Sunday and thought 'it's good to be home'. Their absence will forever be a reminder of yesterday's events and the lives lost."}, {"response": 141, "author": "curious", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (12:04)", "body": "Dear Heavenly Father, We are moved by the alarming news and crisis that our country is facing. This, the greatest nation, founded in the belief that \"In God We Trust\" and the \"Land of the Free\". Please have mercy on those suffering, hurting and in fear, and give wisdom & strength to those who are assisting. May the forces of evil be broken by your power and may we humble before thee, our strength and refuge. Give wisdom to our President and all our leaders and bring your comforting peace through the power of your Holy Spirit. Help us here to reach those that have been affected by this tragedy. In the name of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus. Amen. (Please send this to all your friends and create a prayer chain throughoutthis nation.)"}, {"response": 142, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (13:13)", "body": "Another batch of URLs from Phil Agre: -- Wall Street Journal coverage (appears to be available without a subscription) http://interactive.wsj.com/pages/terattack.htm Yahoo links to news stories etc http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Terrorism/ eyewitness accounts http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1537000/1537530.stm online mechanisms for donating to the Red Cross http://www.amazon.com/paypage/PKAXFNQH7EKCX http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/relief-outside legal coverage http://www.law.com/ mailing list to connect people who can volunteer or provide resources http://207.22.68.76/911volunteers.html aircraft flight tracks http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/spSec/wtcst.jsp front pages of 50 newspapers' coverage of the attack http://www.poynter.org/terrorism/pdf1.htm Current Awareness via Streaming Audio/Video http://gwu.edu/~gprice/audio.htm Speech/Transcripts/Statements from US and Foreign Leaders http://gwu.edu/~gprice/speech.htm Anonymous Remailer Operators Start to Take Remailers Offline http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/current/msg00272.html Middle East Newswire http://www.middleeastwire.com/newswire/ Two Planes Hit Twin Towers at Exactly the Worst Spot http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000073606sep12.story Security Experts Knew a Major Attack Was Possible http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14031-2001Sep11.html Insurance Cost for Terrorist Attack to Near $1 Billion http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/depth/insure091201.htm Reports: Boston Investigators Find Evidence in Attacks http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010912/ts/attack_suspects_dc_2.html civil engineering aspects of the building collapse http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.htm online discussion site for pilots http://www.pprune.org/ Rescuers Struggle at Pentagon http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1539000/1539839.stm Why the Killers Threaten World Prosperity http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1538000/1538958.stm In Shock, Teachers Downplay Tragedy http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000073649sep12.story EBay Cancels Auctions of Attack-Related Items (some idiots were actually gathering rubble in order to sell it on eBay) http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000073609sep12.story"}, {"response": 143, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (13:19)", "body": "From abcnews.com ABCNEWS has learned that officials have identified all the hijackers, and estimated there were three to five for each of the four passenger planes involved. At least two of the hijackers were on the Immigration and Naturalization Service \"watch list,\" and it's still unclear whether the individuals entered the United States illegally or whether they entered before their names were placed on the list. Most if not all of the hijackers were Egyptian or Saudi nationals, sources said. In Washington, State Department officials said they have intelligence information that connects the attacks on the twin towers in New York and on the Pentagon to fugitive Saudi millionaire Osama bin Laden."}, {"response": 144, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (13:31)", "body": "Well it's here in Boston. This is ridiculous..."}, {"response": 145, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (13:43)", "body": "http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/bio.html A bio on Bin Laden from pbs.org. Read the disclaimer that the source is unnamed and the info differs from other bios. Seems his father is from Yemen but moved to Saudi years before Osama (one of 50 children? boggles the mind...) was born in '57. Father made his money in Saudi as a construction mogul, from humble beginnings. http://msnbc.com/news/190144.asp?cp1=1"}, {"response": 146, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (13:52)", "body": "Subject: Yesterday's bombings [4x] Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:12 PM From: nettime's compiler Reply-To: \"nettime's compiler\" To: Table of Contents: The Media: As an Attack Unfolds, a Struggle to Provide Vivid Imag es to Homes John Armitage WTC/Pentagon attac folks@arthide.de (folks) Re: New York City Andrew Ross It was supposed to be such a beautiful day \"Ivo Skoric\" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:42:35 +0100 From: John Armitage Subject: The Media: As an Attack Unfolds, a Struggle to Provide Vivid Imag es to Homes THE NEW YORK TIMES SEP 12, 2001 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/national/12MEDI.html?pagewanted=print The Media: As an Attack Unfolds, a Struggle to Provide Vivid Images to Homes By FELICITY BARRINGER and GERALDINE FABRIKANT Television's broadcast networks and many of its cable channels - both news and entertainment - scrapped their regular schedules yesterday. Radio stations took live television news feeds. Two dozen newspapers published special editions and Web sites threw out their advertising and in some cases stripped down to basic text and still images to help their overtaxed computers handle a demand for news unlike any they had experienced. Between the moment when perplexed morning news broadcasters began fielding calls from Greenwich Village residents who saw a low- flying plane crash into One World Trade Center and the moment more than an hour later when New York's twin towers crumbled into Roman candles of smoky debris, the country's media outlets geared up to become the public stage of a national emergency. By noon, all four major television networks had agreed to share video images. By midafternoon, almost all of AOL Time Warner's cable channels, like TBS and TNT, were carrying CNN; Viacom's CBS News feed was being carried by Viacom's music channels, VH1 and MTV; and Peter Jennings of ABC News was appearing not just on his network, but on Disney's ESPN channel and all ABC radio stations. Most of the networks used variations of the title adopted by CNN: America Under Attack. Images of billowing smoke from lower Manhattan and the low, smoldering profile of the Pentagon, hit, like the Trade Center towers, by a hijacked commercial jetliner, were dominant on all networks. Referring to the unusual agreement to share images among the bitterly competitive news divisions of the networks and CNN, the Fox News president, Roger Ailes, said: \"All the networks decided that this is a national emergency. We're not keeping score today.\" Nor were they making much money, as they largely scrapped commercial advertising. In Washington, where the downtown had become a ghost town after the federal government was shut down, delivery trucks for The Washington Post headed for suburban 7- Eleven stores carrying a special edition dominated by a two-inch headline, \"Terror Hits Pentagon, World Trade Center,\" with a lead editorial headlined \"War.\" Special editions were also published by The Los Angeles Times, The Chicago Tribune, The Newark Star-Ledger, The Charlotte Observer in North Carolina, The Austin American-Statesman in Texas, not to mention small dailies like The LaCrosse Tribune in Wisconsin. Traffic at news Web sites soared, with 10 times or more the usual number of users trying to log on, clogging the Internet and slowing response time. Because New York was not just ground zero of the opening attack but also the heartland of the media industry, some of the most dramatic early accounts were from correspondents working at or near their homes. Don Dahler, an ABC News correspondent who covered recent civil wars in Africa, was getting dressed for work in his third-floor apartment in Tribeca, perhaps half a mile from the World Trade Center, when he heard the first plane hit. \"I heard what is a very familiar sound anywhere else in the world, in war zones,\" Mr. Dahler said. \"It sounded to me like a missile, a high- pitched scream and a roar followed by an explosion, my mind was telling me it's a missile. Then I saw this gaping wound in the World Trade Center. I called into `Good Morning' immediately and started reporting,\" standing on his sixth-floor rooftop with a cellular telephone. Mr. Dahler, just one of the network's sources, was not on the air when he felt the first of the two towers collapse. \"When it collapsed I could feel a rumble, and I tried to interrupt to say that something was happening right before my eyes,\" he said. \"The building collapsed. I was telling them it looks like its coming down, it looks like it's coming down. They switched to me right after it had fallen.\" If there were a few stutter-steps like that, it was not surprising. It was one of the rare instances when television brought disaster into American homes in real time. The radical changes in the technology of news delivery, however, along with the quality of video imagery gave most of the day's news broadcasts the feeling of an epic disaster movie. The only genuinely grainy imagery came from the"}, {"response": 147, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (13:55)", "body": "The White House and ABC News have confirmed that the intended target of the plane that crashed in DC, was NOT The Pentagon. It was The White House. OMG !! The White House have also confirmed that Air Force One and The President, were also intended targets. They have not revealed what brought them to this conclusion. Thank God these other attacks didn't take place and, that the Secret Service took the evasive measures with Air Force One, that they did."}, {"response": 148, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (13:55)", "body": "From today's Vancouver Sun: \"Wednesday, September 12, 2001 OTTAWA (CP) - Thousands of Canadians from coast to coast responded to calls for blood donations to help American victims of Tuesday's catastrophic attacks in New York and Washington. The hotline set up by Canadian Blood Services for those wishing to donate has been tied up almost permanently, said spokeswoman Lorna Tessier. She urged people to persevere, even though no request for blood has been received from U.S. authorities. ``We've had such an overwhelming response that the 1-888-2-DONATE line has been very difficult to get through on. ``Right now, clearly, the clinics are overwhelmed and we are putting on additional hours and additional clinics, but we don't want people to get discouraged. ``We are going to need their blood. We're anticipating that the need will come up.'' She said the agency doesn't have statistics yet on the number of people who have come forward, but it is in the thousands.\" I'd point out that nobody's actually asked us for blood yet, but people just felt the need to do something to help. From the National Post: Canadians offer homes to stranded 400 international jets diverted across country Wednesday, September 12, 2001 TORONTO and VANCOUVER - International passenger jets crammed Canadian tarmacs yesterday after all United States airports were closed in the wake of the terrorist attack that levelled the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York. About 400 planes were expected to be diverted throughout the day, pouring 10,000 people into Halifax alone. By late afternoon, Vancouver International Airport had received 34 planes diverted from North American destinations, carrying as many as 6,000 people. Another 25 planes were expected at Lester B. Pearson International Airport in Toronto. St. John's International Airport closed its runways after taking in 27 aircraft with 5,000 passengers. Fifty-seven flights were expected to land into the night at the airport in Gander, Nfld. At least 100 controllers and other staff were pulled out of courses and called in on their time off to help handle the deluge of international flights, said Paul Hornbeck, a spokesman for Nav Canada, the agency that handles air traffic control at Canadian airports. International arrival terminals across the country were choked with people while departure areas were virtually deserted -- all outbound flights across Canada were cancelled, except for humanitarian or search-and-rescue missions, police and military flights. Passengers stood in line with their luggage, waiting for hours to be searched before they could be permitted to leave. Bev Aurich, a traveller from Sydney, Australia, who had been headed to Anchorage, Alaska, before being grounded in Vancouver, said she did not mind the inconvenience. \"We shouldn't be upset about missing a little trip, when there is such devastation in the United States. We're better to be delayed and be comfortable than to keep to our schedule and risk something,\" she said. In Toronto, some airport hotels reacted to the situation by increasing their rates to the maximum legal tariff. Meanwhile, concerned residents around the country showed up at airports to offer their homes to travellers. \"I had to take the energy I felt and direct it,\" said Ena Bendon, a Vancouver woman who showed up at the airport to offer accommodation. \"I thought of someone with kids here, terrified. I had to do something.\" Lufthansa pilot Axel Algner was flying a passenger jet from Frankfurt to Chicago when he was told there had been an incident in Manhatten and all planes were being grounded. It wasn't until he landed his plane in Toronto that he was informed of the details. \"What I thought is that it was a joke. I couldn't believe it, it's still hard to believe. It just gives me goosebumps even talking about it,\" he said. Another pilot said he was instructed to lock his cockpit after being told the news. On the ground at Pearson, the airport began a news blackout at 10:30 a.m., according to one passenger. Travellers grouped around fellow passengers with cellphones to learn the details of what had happened. Others lined up to use payphones. Rabbis and Roman Catholic priests were brought in to counsel passengers. In Calgary, which took at least ten diverted flights, every hotel room was filled by early afternoon, but tourism officials said residents were opening up their homes to travellers. In Winnipeg, hotels were also booked solid by early afternoon, prompting the city to invoke its emergency measures plan, transforming public buildings into makeshift dormitories equipped with camp cots, said Penny McMillan, of Tourism Winnipeg. The airport took in 14 diverted domestic flights and three international ones -- generating 1,500 overnight guests. At Vancouver International Airport, Layne Daggett, the airport chaplain, said he placed 500 people, but others still needed accommodation. \"I have a strong faith that God is in control even in these ki"}, {"response": 149, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (14:54)", "body": "Thanks for the links, Terry. I found the one about the buildings' structural aspects fascinating. Engineers suggested that the south tower of the World Trade Center collapsed first...because the plane hit the corner of the building, rather than the center, where there is more structural support. When you watched the head-on film, you wondered why the plane was aimed at the side when it could've been placed more centrally. But you have to wonder about the following statement: The planes might have done more damage if they had hit the buildings lower, but they had to fly at a height of about 60 stories to clear nearby buildings. More damage than what????"}, {"response": 150, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (18:42)", "body": "Even what was left standing is now crumbled into the pit from whence it arose. And thanks for telling future terrorists where exactly to hit a building to do the most damage, media people. I still cannot believe it crumpled like a toy like that. They all did. And so did their inhabitants. I turned on NPR this morning for a break from the news, and they were playing dirges. It was too much! Thanks, all, for your support in what seemed like a cold world before this happened. I wonder what I will feel when the numbness and disbelief wears off..."}, {"response": 151, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (20:40)", "body": "Will the numbness ever really wear off. Someone posted on Ramble that her neighbors and their 2 children were on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon."}, {"response": 152, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (20:46)", "body": "from email: \"In the days and weeks ahead, it's important for Microsoft and for each of us individually to think about how we can help. As a company, Microsoft is today making a $10 million contribution to assist those who have been impacted by the tragedy. We are contributing $5 million in cash to the September 11 Fund, created by the United Way of New York City and The New York Community Trust. In addition to cash, we are also contributing people and expertise. We have committed up to $5 million in technical assistance, including Microsoft Consulting Services and software to assist in the recovery effort. We also are in contact with business customers who have been severely impacted by yesterday's tragedy to see what we can do to assist them.\""}, {"response": 153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (21:32)", "body": "Penn Station and the Empire State Building being evacuated."}, {"response": 154, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (21:45)", "body": "Bomb threat - no bomb found. People allowed back in. They now take all threats seriously!!!"}, {"response": 155, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (21:50)", "body": "Thursday 13 September 9:14 AM Bin Laden under house arrest: report Afghanistan's ruling Taliban militia had placed alleged terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden under house arrest in the wake of the suicide attacks on the United States, an Arabic online newspaper reported. Quoting \"fundamentalist Arab sources\", Ilaf said the \"Taliban have arrested Osama bin Laden before placing him under surveillance with several of his assistants,\" including the head of the Egyptian branch of Al-Jihad Ayman Al-Zawahri and bin Laden's military commander, Muhammad Atef Al-Makni. \"A number of Afghan fighters are under house arrest along with bin Laden,\" said the report late Wednesday. But a diplomat at the Taliban's embassy in Abu Dhabi said he could not confirm the report. \"All we know is that he (bin Laden) is somewhere in Afghanistan, but we are not aware if he is under house arrest,\" the diplomat said. Bin Laden and commander Atef have been indicted for the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Bin Laden has emerged as the prime suspects in yesterday's kamikaze hijacked passenger jet strikes on New York and Washington."}, {"response": 156, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (21:53)", "body": "I don't know how true this is or not. It was posted on yahoo.com in Australia. http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010913/aapworld/1000336445-1141825578.html I don't know why there's not mention of this on CBS, which I'm watching as I write this."}, {"response": 157, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:06)", "body": "More information all over the net. status of the investigation http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16714-2001Sep12.html Flight 93 Passenger Said He Planned Action http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/pit/news/stories/news-95780920010912-110907.html Controllers' Tale of Flight 11 http://www.csmonitor.com/earlyed/earlyUSA4.html FBI Agents Search Hotels; Arrests Made http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/957448/detail.html animation of the routes of flights 11, 193, and 175 http://pull.xmr3.com/p/29594-9681/22024263/aal11.html http://pull.xmr3.com/p/29594-9681/22024277/ual193final.html http://pull.xmr3.com/p/29594-9681/22024274/ual175_aal11.html Somerset Crash Scene Searched; \"Hero\" May Have Aborted Terror Mission http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20010912somersetp3.asp Cell Calls From Planes Reveal Horror http://msnbc.com/news/627214.asp How the World Trade Center Fell http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1540000/1540044.stm role of the Internet Net Offers Lifeline Amid Tragedy http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7132246.html World Trade Center Staff Sent E-Mails After Planes Struck http://www.itn.co.uk/news/20010912/business/12cantor.shtml Help Sites Spring Up in Aftermath of WTC Assaults http://www.bizreport.com/article.php?art_id=2113 response Terrorism and Children http://www.ces.purdue.edu/terrorism/children/ http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Sept01/Garbarino.kids.bombing.lgk.html comment Chronic Underfunding of US HUMINT Plays Role in Intelligence Failures http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jdw/jdw010911_1_n.shtml Michael Moore's commentary http://www.michaelmoore.com/2001_0912.html On the Bombings, by Noam Chomsky http://www.lbbs.org/chomnote.htm The Best and Worst From Our Leaders During Crises http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=11909 Terrorists Are Made, Not Born http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/12/blowback/ The Rhetoric of War (with examples from editorial pages) http://www.marginalia.org/war.html an example of that rhetoric http://www.nationalreview.com/kudlow/kudlow091101.shtml background background on the Mt. Weather bunker where the politicians were probably taken http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/mt_weather.htm outline of relevant anti-terrorism etc laws http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/us/terrorism/laws.html Airport Access Control (one of the security reports that was never properly acted on) http://cas.faa.gov/ig5.pdf news Arab newspapers http://www.the-saudi.net/arab-world/media/newspapers-links.htm http://www.amin.org/jourmag/ French language news sources on the attack http://www.tv5.org/nyc/ Nous Sommes Tous Americains http://www.lemonde.fr/article/0,5987,3222--221600-,00.html worldwide news in English http://www.kidon.com/media-link/english.shtml Thousands of Newspapers on the Net http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/ end"}, {"response": 158, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:17)", "body": "Be happy you don't live in Hawaii. We Get NO MAIL until the flights resume."}, {"response": 159, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:24)", "body": "I'm not going to be happy I don't live in Hawaii, that's too much to ask!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:31)", "body": "a report from Afghanistan: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/international/asia/13AFGH.html ABUL, Afghanistan, Sept. If there are Americans clamoring to bomb Afghanistan back to the Stone Age, they ought to know that this nation does not have so far to go. This is a post-apocalyptic place of felled cities, parched land and downtrodden people. The fragility of this country was part of the message the Taliban government conveyed in a plea for restraint issued late tonight. It said in part, \"We appeal to the United States not to put Afghanistan into more misery because our people have suffered so much.\" Whatever Afghanistan's current cataclysm, its next one seems to require little time to overtake it. Wars fought by sundry protagonists have gone on now for 22 consecutive years, a remorseless drought for 4. Since 1996, most of the nation has been ruled by Taliban mullahs whose vision of the world's purest Islamic state has at least as much to do with controlling social behavior as vouchsafing social welfare. The accused terrorist Osama bin Laden has found a home here, angering much of the world. In 1998, America fired a volley of more than 70 cruise missiles at guerrilla training camps reportedly operated by the Saudi multimillionaire. Now, there seems to be the prospect of another barrage, with Afghan hospitality to the same man as the cause. As fear of an American attack mounted, the Taliban's senior spokesman in Kandahar, Abdul Hai Mutmain, called the few foreign reporters here to issue the statement, which in part defended Mr. bin Laden: \"These days, Osama bin Laden's name has become very popular and to an extent it has become a symbol. These days, even to the common people, Osama bin Laden's name is associated with all controversial acts. Osama bin Laden does not have such capabilities. We still hope sanity prevails in the United States. We are confident that if a fair investigation is carried out by American authorities, the Taliban will not be found guilty of involvement in such cowardly acts.\" The statement also said, \"Killing our leaders will not help our people any. There is no factory in Afghanistan that is worth the price of a single missile fired at us. It will simply increase the mistrust between the people in the region and the United States.\" Whatever else there is to say about this entreaty, one part that is indisputably true is that this land-locked, ruggedly beautiful nation is in absolute misery. Here in Kabul, the capital, roaming clusters of widows beg in the streets, their palms seemingly frozen in a supplicant pose. Withered men pull overloaded carts, their labor less costly than the price of a donkey. Children play in vast ruins, their limbs sometimes wrenched away by remnant land mines. The national life expectancy, according to the central statistics office, has fallen to 42 for males and 40 for females. The prolonged drought has sent nearly a million about 5 percent of the on a desperate flight from hunger. Some have gone to other Afghan cities, others across the border. More than one million are \"at risk of starvation,\" according to the United Nations. Famine is the catastrophe Afghans are used to hearing about. Few yet know of the threat of an American reprisal. The Taliban long ago banned television, and the lack of electricity keeps most people from listening to radio. The nation's 100 or so foreign aid workers suffer no such telecommunications handicaps, however, and today many of them began to flee their adopted home, fearing either the havoc of American bombs or the wrath of subsequent Afghan outrage. Around noon, a special United Nations flight evacuated the first of the expatriates. The remaining foreigners are expected to leave on Thursday, as will three, and perhaps all four, of the American parents here to observe the trial of their children, among eight foreign aid workers accused by the Taliban of preaching Christianity. As foreigners left, the Taliban took unusual precautions: they began searching every vehicle entering government compounds. Visitors were carefully frisked. But however much the Taliban hierarchy was beginning to fret, streets and bazaars were a picture of normality. Word has spread slowly about the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. And even when everyday Afghans heard the news, there were no accompanying video images to sear the horror into their memories. Personal conversations only carried the dull stimuli of abstract words: hijacked planes and collapsed buildings. Khair Khana, a man selling fertilizer in a market, knew just a bit about the attack. He thought a plane had crashed into the White House. And he considered the perpetrators, whoever they are, to be \"enemies of God,\" though he also felt \"Americans should look into their hearts and minds about why someone would kill themselves and others\" in such a way. He had not thought much about an American retaliation against Afghanistan. When he did consider it, standing in a ramshackle col"}, {"response": 161, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:32)", "body": "You're not any different, Marcia. Mail is not going between cities on the mainland either."}, {"response": 162, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:33)", "body": "I heard mail wasn't going over 300 miles from it's point of origin. The airlines carry most of the mail but they may not be allowed to carry it any more."}, {"response": 163, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:35)", "body": "Yup, back to barge and 2-week mail. From the west coast. It is nice to know there is company in the misery of Paradise."}, {"response": 164, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:42)", "body": "This very thought provoking piece was written by the impassoned Gerard Van der Leun, who has been on the scene all along in lower Manhattan. All day the images have repeated themselves on television while the smell of the smoke persisted in my rooms. Off and on, all day, I walked to the promenade to look at the reality of it and watch the smoke that didn't stop. It will now play itself out, over and over again in my mind, until the day of my own death. Television and reality. It is very difficult to separate the two, and when one has no reality, television is the thing that replaces it. And because it is through television that those responsible for this monstrous act receive their impression of this country I believe they have made a fundamental miscalculation about the deeper nature of the United States. A miscalculation that will cause to be visited upon them what I pray will be a terrible lesson; a lesson that will make the survivors envy the dead. If you look at television and the endless products of pap and nonsense that are piped out of the media centers of the United States, it is easy to see us as a weak, self-obsessed and foolish people. And many of us are that, even if we pretend to be other than weak, self-obsessed and foolish. We have sitcoms and MTV. We have endless opinions about things which are not really central to serious life questions and serious policy decisions. Our young people look foolish in their vanity and their fashions. Our military institutions are often ridiculed. Our entertainments are light and vapid. Many in positions of influence give short shrift to millions more with deeply held religious and traditional political convictions. Our \"major\" issues on a day by day basis rarely rise above the level of fretful worry about the \"safety of restaurants that allow smoking,\" or whether or not a flower will be threatened by an oil well. These are serious issues to many Americans, and it is easy to see why such wet and weak concerns would lead others elsewhere in the world to hold us in contempt as a weak and decadent society that cannot defend itself against attack. They see our men as feminine and our women as masculine and, to the fundamentalist mind, this signals a weakness in the blood and bone of the nation.They believe that they can attack such a society with a kind of impunity, or with the expectation of a careful and delicate response. They even note that our President is a man who communicates in a clumsy way, who is an illegitimate ruler, and who does not have the support of many of the ruling elites of the country. They hold him to be easily frightened and stupid. And perhaps he is many, if not all, of these things: clumsy, weak, illegitimate, frightened and stupid. But it will not, in the long run, matter. And I pray it does not avail them. That is all the television America. But there is and always has been another America, and it is this America that I hope will emerge from this day and remind all those who seek to harm us that we can be a nation that is as terrible as it seems foolish. That we are a country of deep resolve and capable of striking back in cold anger without compassion or regret. That we are, as the Japanese knew and were to discover, a sleeping giant and you wake us at your own risk. And once woken we will destroy you, and then rebuild you. The Japanese had their lesson and have learned. Germany had it's lesson and has learned. Now it is the turn of a number of nations in the middle east. We will first tend to our dead. Many funerals will take Place over the next month or so. At the same time we will also prepare for our vengence and I pray it will be terrible and without hesitation or compassion until all terrorists and all the villages, cities, and nations that support them are reduced to rubble. This will be an America whose anger is not hidden beneath grief and the committment to save those not yet dead in the rubble of New York and Washington. This is the America you see when you watch the head of the Fire Department of New York try to express his feelings at losing 300 men in one terrible moment. This is the America of the thousands of rescue workers on the job tonight trying to dig through the rubble. This is the America of terrible resolve that you can read on the face of the Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff when he states the military is ready to do whatever is required of it. \"Whatever is required of it\",and I pray we require them to visit horror on our enemies that is a thousand fold worse than what we saw today. You see, it doesn't really matter \"who\" is the President. It matters only that there is a President. The President is only one man and in times like this he does not really have to lead. He has only to follow and get out of the way. After that what takes place will be done by many, many others in the hundreds and thousands. These people will not be a group of lame celebrities with their puling little concerns whose lives are just "}, {"response": 165, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:55)", "body": "More from Gerard. attack.20.430: Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Tue 11 Sep 01 08:20 I watched this happen. The enormity of it cannot be communicated. Vile and bestial. We need to destroy any and all capacity anywhere to do anything like this happening ever again. There were thousands in those buildings. Thousands. There is no justice swift enough or sure enough. But all that we have must be brought forward and used without restraint. This is an act of war beyond Pearl Harbor. Military jets overhead again. More ash on the street. attack.20.465: Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Tue 11 Sep 01 08:34 I am cooled down. Way down., This is pure evil. attack.20.725: Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:33 There is no more World Trade Center visible from the Promenade. But you can smell it from there a sort of burnt stench as if someone lit newspaper in a trash can and then poured water on it. That kind of wet burnt stench. It is bright in the sunshine now except for where the Trade Centers stood and there is still a plume of thick brown smoke mouldering up from there and making the sun behind it look dim. Just now I saw three large military helicopters land across the river from the Heights on the big pad at the foot of Wall Street. People on the streets are talking quietly man of them on cells now that some of those nets are back up. Everything is as quiet as it was this morning When I got up and began to take a shower. Showering I felt a vibration shake my building in Brooklyn Heights like a subway train passing deep underneath the structure. I didn't think much of it. I've felt similar vibrations before. Getting out I was dressing and I heard the second explosion from the second plane striking the buildings. I turned on the radio and found out what was happening. I dressed and left the house and walked a block to the Promenade at the edge of Brooklyn Heights and saw both towers in flames sending huge gouts of smoke into the air. You don't know what to think. You don't know what to feel. You are just reacting. The promenade was jammed with people with more arriving. Then as I watched the first tower just imploded and plunged, it seemed to me, straight down and a huge brown and black rolling cloud of smoke came boiling through all the streets between the building and surged upward and took over the sky. You could see bright shiny bits of metal squares tumbling up and down and drifting out of the smoke that moved up and blew out to the south east... it was like confetti or stuff tossed out of windows in a ticker tape parade. I felt the sound before I heard it and it shook everything around me. I heard gasps and screams around me. People were turning away. Everyone with children was leaving the promenade. Some were moving closer. The smoke took over everything. I knew that anyone in that building was dead and I started to shake and to weep and to look around at the others who were in all states of reaction. And I had to go back to my house to regroup. After I was in the house for a few minutes I heard another larger explosion. I went back out and down to the promenade again but this time I couldn't see the sky as I had before. This time the whole sky had been darkened and, the wind having shifted, this fine white ash was swirling down the street. Not heavy, but everywhere around me and it was settling down lightly on all the surfaces. When I got to the promenade again the entire southern tip of Manhattan was enveloped in a dirty brown cloud, No buildings visible at all. Nothing. It filled the sky and made it dark. Turning the corner if you looked uptown past the Brooklyn Bridge which was filled with hordes of people walking towards the Brooklyn shore you could see the buildings start to emerge from the smoke. People were sparse on the promenade now although down towards the end there were more and if you walked down there you could see a little bit into the downtown section of Wall street. And there were ferries moving out of the smoke at high speed. And then I started to hear the military jets but I didn't see them. But no other planes are to be seen. Now it is still smoking there. The trade centers are just gone. Erased. 50,000 people they say work there and 150,000 pass through. What do I feel? I don't know what I feel except that I want vengeance and complete vengeance. I want everything this country possesses put onto the people who did this, and the people who supported this act, and the people who believe this is the way in which political ends are achieved. I want there to be a war and a big war until these people are eradicated who ever they are and where ever they are. I want it made clear that anything even approaching this evil act will be met with utter destruction - people, families, villages, cities, nations. This is an act of war and war must be the response. We will be having a long series of mass funerals for many weeks. I only hope that this country finds the stomach and the resolve to carry "}, {"response": 166, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:55)", "body": "that's exactly how I feel. i found my friend who works for oem, btw. he's ok. he was evacuated when the mayor was from 7 WT. he told me about some of the things he saw... i started to cry. he's still in shock. God bless America."}, {"response": 167, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (22:59)", "body": "terry, what address are you finding this on??"}, {"response": 168, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (23:00)", "body": "Wow Liz, I'm so glad he's safe. Aren't these words from Gerard pregnant with feeling from someone who's been there, smelled and tasted the horror first hand? Powerful, heartfelt words."}, {"response": 169, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (23:03)", "body": "Gerard posted this at well.com and gave me permission to repost. It's not on a public web address. More . . . Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Wed 12 Sep 01 08:05 To answer leroy, I am back at my absurd day-job. So far I'm just about the only one here. Maybe eight people out of 200+. I don't know quite why I am here, but then, in truth, I'm never sure why I am ever here other than that my personal life obligations require me to be here. That may have to change. At any rate, I woke up and could only take about five minutes of the endlessly repeated images of disaster, and having, literally nothing better to do, decided to try and come in. I first walked to the Promenade to see where the Towers were. The vile smoke blooming across the river was still there as it has always been, probably as it always will be in my mind where I will see it first as that moment when the first tower went down carrying thousands to a death I cannot imagine. Still there. And the faint smell lingers too. And there were small clumps of people standing around, one couple even posing for a picture against the new skyline. Then I walked through streets in the Heights that barely had any people on them. Usually full and bustling even on holiday weekends. Now just some elderly people moving slowly and a few clots of Jehovahs Witnesses in their cleaned and pressed clothing going down to put out what I am sure will be an especially \"We told you so\" issue of the Watchtower. Clark Street station shut down with a few police directly people to the Jay street station. Buy a New York Post because I've read the Times. Walk to Jay Street in the heart of the Brooklyn government center across streets with few pedestrians and no traffic except for police, fire and security vehicles cruising aimlessly about or parked at the curb. Security in front of the courts and the city offices lounging in the bright sunshine of this second day of Indian Summer weather. Down into the Jay Station and a very sparsely occupied A train. We set off on a slow, very slow trip into Manhattan. Several people are reading bibles but most of the 15 or so people are just staring into space and looking vaguely alarmed whenever the train halts between stations -- which is often. I spend this time reading the New York Post which has, inside, a picture of the exterior of one of the towers just before it collapsed. In this picuture I can count around 24 people poking their heads out of the windows or actually on the outside of what has to be the nintieth floor of the towers. All of them, ALL OF THEM, about to ride this building down into oblivion and you know that THEY ALL KNOW THIS. Next to this is a picture of the side of the Tower and a large empty space on the left which is thin air. In this space, close to the tower you can see five to seven people falling with nothing but space above and below them, falling straight down into doom rather than be burned alive. Finally, the train pulls into 23rd Street and halts. After a minute or so you can hear the announcer telling us that we will be held in the station for some time because of a \"police investigation\" in Penn Station, my destination. I get out and go up to the street to walk the rest of the way. An I walk into a Manhattan I have never seen in the almost 30 years that I've been here. Streets almost utterly clear of traffic for as far uptown or downtown as you can see on 8th Ave. Nearly the same thing on 7th. A smattering of pedestrians that grows somewhat thicker as you approach Penn Station. A nail salon open but with nobody getting their nails done that I can see. Extortionate parking lots that are usually jammed with cars almost empty and with nobody there to collect the money. On the street parking? Oh, we've got it now. Everywhere the hush. Everywhere. Like a ghost town with real ghosts now walking among us. People just standing around, people talking softly on cell phones, and people talking to themselves. On every corner small groups walking slowly into the street or ambling along the sidewalks as if nothing they normally do on Wednesdays in New York City is really all that important after all."}, {"response": 170, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (23:05)", "body": "Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Wed 12 Sep 01 19:05 On blood and the giving of it in New York. It is important to do this, but no longer because of the need. It is pretty clear at this point in the evening of day 2 in New York that the city has more than enough of what it needs to cover for this present emergency. Still, people should give because it is something than they can give. That is the need it fills. As for blood for the wounded and the suffering, there is now a sufficient quantity. And sadly this is because, with the exception of a few miracles that I hope will happen over the next few days, there will not be large numbers of injured beyond those who are already receiving treatment. We are now starting to see the bodies emerge and they will continue in a ghastly parade of orange body bags for weeks now. Soon, tomorrow and over the weekend, the funerals and the memorials will begin. And they will go on and on and on. We will have, if we are *fortunate* 10,000 funerals in this city in the coming weeks. Let me say that again: Ten *thousand* funerals. Try, right now, to close your eyes and visualize this number of funeral ceremonies of every type and description and religion. You cannot do it because the enormity of it is too much for the human mind and soul. But we will have them, one by one and in groups. And here is another fact that comes along behind this number. We do not have enough graves. We do not have enough crematoriums. Many will go unburied for weeks. Many will be burned because that will be the only choice. Many will have to be moved by train, plane, or van to some other place in the state, country, or the world. And we will bury a thousand, and then another thousand, and another. And still the orange body bags will come up out of the pile and the pit one by one by one and lie in rows. And this will go on for weeks if not months. Think about what this will be like. Just stop and try to really see it. And then think this: No matter what many may feel now about the wisdom or the goodness or the morality of retribution, there will come a time during this parade of our dead when this country, already uniting in a way I cannot remember in my 55 years, will have even a greater sea-change of spirit and rage. Many of those who do not really feel this now, for whatever enlightened or unenlightened reason, will feel this change and become part of it. There will be those who do not, a smaller and smaller part of us as the days go by, and they will in the end be left behind. But by far the most of us will be changed by this, even if now we are not. Ten thousand funerals. We cannot imagine it, and yet we will live it. And I hope that each one of us can bear witness to as many as we can bear. It is the least of our duties."}, {"response": 171, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (23:19)", "body": "Thanks for that Terry. G's first post is amazing. It says beautifully the resolve and structure of America. Thanks for sharing it."}, {"response": 172, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (23:29)", "body": "And his second one is even more powerful. Beware the wrath of righteous indignation."}, {"response": 173, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (23:50)", "body": "Thank you, Gerard, for speaking so eloquently what we were all feeling. Ten THOUSAND is the size of a good-sized town. Imagine your entire city dead..."}, {"response": 174, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (23:59)", "body": "The NY Port Authority is now putting the potential death toll at 20 thousand. I shudder to think what made them increase this up from the earlier figure of 10 thousand. Hopefully, it is just pure conjecture, as the figure of 20 thousand, is just beyond comprehension."}, {"response": 175, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (00:36)", "body": "Never forget!!! Hawaii was shocked into action by terrorist acts thousands of miles away yesterday, putting isle military bases on highest alert, grounding air traffic and sending many residents to blood banks and churches. U.S. Navy warships were patrolling the West Coast and Hawaii, ready to respond to any terrorist threat. Lt. Cmdr. Jeff Gordon, a Pacific Fleet spokesman at Pearl Harbor, said the 15 ships patrolling Hawaii waters were deployed or redirected as a precautionary measure, not because of a specific threat. Military bases in Hawaii remained closed today to those without military identification for the second straight day after yesterday's plane hijackings and crashes. More http://starbulletin.com/2001/09/12/news/"}, {"response": 176, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (00:43)", "body": "Actually, 20,000 was about what I had imagined from the beginning, given the capacity of the two buildings, number of people per floor, etc. Over 200 floors. There could be easily 100 people per floor, despite the steady stream of people getting out after the first attack. I remember one newsperson saying that highest number of American casualties on a single day was in the Civil War battle of Antietam, where about 23,000 were killed."}, {"response": 177, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (00:53)", "body": "I wonder if we will ever get an accurate accounting. The fires continue to burn deep inside the hole made by one of the towers. It will simply have to burn itself out since it is too hot and too dangerous to get to now. Frightening! I was asked to post this and so I shall: Flags Across America To show those terrorists that we Americans stick together, FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 14 is \"Flags Across America.\" All Americans are asked to display the American flag either in their homes or cars. Let's keep the meaning of UNITED in \"United States\". Pass this onto as many people as you know. THANK YOU."}, {"response": 178, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (00:58)", "body": "I know Karen, I know... When that figure of 10,000 was initially announced, I thought it was too low, considering the massive amounts of people in the 2 towers. But after a trajedy like this, it is easy and comforting to stick your head in the sand and try to pretend the worst is not going to happen. All too soon, the cold hard reality will get to you, no matter how long you try to put it off."}, {"response": 179, "author": "curious", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (01:12)", "body": "This is YOUR LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEM, a free newsletter sharing life, love and laughter, published by Steve Goodier. http://www.lifesupportsystem.com I asked for it! I invited a response and now am flooded with mail! It may take days to go through it all. Today I printed some of YOUR words in lieu of my usual message. I hope you feel encouraged by the spirit in which they were written. ~ Steve _________________From the Mailbox__________________ Write to Publisher@LifeSupportSystem.com I want to express my great condolence to people of America. I want to say aloud my personal absolute negative expression about the terrorist attack innocent people in New York and Washington. Dostoevsky said there are no great goals to justify the crime if it costs a little tear of child, and how many tears (were shed by) this outrage act? ~ Your subscriber (Kiev, Ukraine) Know that the pain and suffering of Americans is also felt across the mass of water here in Australia. ~ Joanna (Perth, Australia) Let those of us who can, hold a vision of peace, even between ourselves and those who would destroy us. Let those of us who can see the Light, be the Light. ~ A friend Everything came to a standstill here (South Africa) yesterday afternoon at about 3.00 p.m. our time when we first heard the news of the horror! What I do want to say, from our small space, far away from you all in America, is that we grieve for the whole nation and all of you are in our prayers and thoughts -- constantly. ~ Caroline (South Africa) The Canadian People Send Their Deepest Condolences to Our American Friends. We are shocked and horrified, as most Americans are, as soon as we heard the news many rallied, giving blood to the Canadian Red Cross in anticipation of the need by those that might need it. America is our fiend and neighbour, and those that hurt America hurt us. We hope that we never see another tragedy as this again. ~ Doug (Canada) Thank you! Even with all that you and your family have been going through, you have still managed to send inspiration to those of us in need! With all of the negativity out there yesterday, and the \"Nuke 'EM\" attitude among a lot of Americans that called into CNN and the radio stations here in Chicago, I began to find myself getting more upset about them than the tragedy that caused their feelings. Thank you for reminding the many people who forget in times like this that we are all one -- most humans do NOT believe that the killing of innocents is right, no matter what race! Here in Chicago, an Arab education meeting was hit with a molotov cocktail -- this is exactly what we DON'T need! Thanks again for your call to Americans to see the truth and work through our grief with LOVE! ~ Kelli (Chicago, Illinois) I, like so many of us in the US, live complacently from day to day without fear of danger. Then a tragedy like this occurs and reminds us of the fragility of life and how important it is for us to set aside our differences and all join hands in common bond. ~ Mal (Pasadena, Texas, USA) I live in Barbados, a small island in the West Indies (Caribbean). The tragedy of yesterday shook us here as well. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in the States. May God continue to strengthen your nation and be with every one of your leaders as they make decisions and try to rebuild the country. ~ Marie (Barbados) A great gloom has descended on Australia today and will remain for a while to come. The streets were empty in peak hour this morning as people stayed home to watch in horror as the event was broadcast across the nation. And this gloom has remained the whole day, with the attack being just about the only thing on peoples minds. America is far from alone in its hurt and sorrow and we will do whatever we can to help our fellow humans. ~ Nikki (Gold Coast, Australia) I hope that from yesterday events we may learn at least one lesson: that hate only brings violence and destruction. \"Love thy enemy\" was not written in vain. I pray that the hurt we all feel today does not develop into hate and desire for revenge. ~ Olga (Puerto Rico, USA) My thoughts from South Africa are with you in this dark hour. But I know that you are a country of strong people. People that will support each other and together stand up to become even stronger. ~ Ronelle (Gauteng, South Africa) I am thankful to you always for the positive, uplifting words. I look forward to my daily emails. I never needed them more than I needed them today. I was one of hundreds in Jersey City, at Exchange Place, who watched this event unfold to our shock, horror and disbelief. Thanks for giving me something to hold on to. ~ TL Everything has changed today. Our nation, our world, our civilization. If we are not extremely careful, we could surrender our future to these terrorists in exchange for the perception of peace and security. The terrorists demonstrated that the United States is a free and open country. We have paid a price for having an accessible society. Ac"}, {"response": 180, "author": "Allison2", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (02:43)", "body": "In addition to thousands of Americans killed they are now saying there were hundreds of UK citizens. My son (he works for a US bank in London) has just got back from spending a week working in NY. He was in the WTC every day. The world really is a global village. What happens to the US happens to us all."}, {"response": 181, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (07:37)", "body": "http://tibet.com/NewsRoom/hhdl-letter.htm The Dalai Lama speaks."}, {"response": 182, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (08:05)", "body": "The world really is a global village. What happens to the US happens to us all. Let's hope this unity works in the hard task ahead. There are some flights flying into Miami. They seem to be flying lower than usual. Where once we could barely hear them now they are very loud. Very scary. :-("}, {"response": 183, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (08:47)", "body": "Thank goodness that your family was spared, Allison. I was thinking about Ben's brother. Isn't he in NYC and probably in that part of it?"}, {"response": 184, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (08:55)", "body": "Ben's brother works (I believe) for Morgan Stanley, who have (had) 21 floors of the South WTC tower, although it's not their head office in NYC. MS reported yesterday that over 85% (and growing) of their WTC staff had survived. So his odds are good."}, {"response": 185, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (09:08)", "body": "Thanks, Mark, for the update. The other night I was watching BBC news' coverage on one of my PBS channels and they were talking about all the foreign nationals who worked in the financial sector."}, {"response": 186, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (09:23)", "body": "That's right, Karen. Just like here in London, the NYC financial services industry is one of the most multi-national workforces around. Obviously, the BBC is concerned to take some time focusing on the number of Britons involved, but there will be many nationalities amongst the dead, along with the thousands of Americans. A colleague of mine reports that his NY counterpart works in a suburb in which nearly everybody commutes to Manhattan. Every few doors down the street there was a worker who never came home on Tuesday. Personally, three of my four previous firms had offices in the WTC. It brings the tragedy close to home, but not as close as for the family members and friends of the 20,000."}, {"response": 187, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (09:58)", "body": "(Mark) MS reported yesterday that over 85% (and growing) of their WTC staff had survived. So his odds are good. Yes, I heard that about MS also. They credit a 'split second decision to evacuate' after the first plane hit the other tower. It seems to me alot more people got out than you might expect (credit the '93 bombing for that). Yet the stories of those searching for their loved ones, who called before 9 a.m. to say they were OK but who worked above the 90th floor, are absolutely heartbreaking. This will continue for weeks. (Beth) The White House and ABC News have confirmed that the intended target of the plane that crashed in DC, was NOT The Pentagon. It was The White House. OMG !! The White House have also confirmed that Air Force One and The President, were also intended targets. They have not revealed what brought them to this conclusion. I'll tell you--this is spin. Georgie's being criticized for not returning to DC until late afternoon. The plane which hit the Pentagon, the press sec'y says, circled over the White House first. They may have more 'clear and convincing' evidence that the White House and Air Force One (a plane? They're going to hit a plane with a plane with so many other gov't targets around? George was on the ground in Fla. at the time of the attacks) were targeted, but I'm not biting. Though they could've indeed gone for the White House and done far more damage to the country--Dick Cheney was at his desk. ;-P"}, {"response": 188, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:01)", "body": "On Doomed Flight, Passengers Vowed to Perish Fighting By JODI WILGORENand EDWARD WONG They told the people they loved that they would die fighting. In a series of cellular telephone calls to their wives, two passengers aboard the plane that crashed into a Pennsylvania field instead of possibly toppling a national landmark learned about the horror of the World Trade Center. From 35,000 feet, they relayed harrowing details about the hijacking in progress to the police. And they vowed to try to thwart the enemy, to prevent others from dying even if they could not save themselves. More: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/national/13NEWA.html"}, {"response": 189, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:04)", "body": "Austin's Stratfor.com intelligence reports are some of the best: Situation Reports European markets stabilized in trading Sept. 12, helping to calm the major Asian markets entering the trading day Sept. 13. AFP reports that Tokyo, Hong Kong, Sydney and South Korea all posted minor gains after steep losses the previous day, though all markets remain fairly below pre-attack levels. Singapore dropped marginally, and Malaysia, Thailand and Taiwan -- which were closed Sept. 13 -- posted losses of between 4 and 7 percent. 1519 GMT, 091301 The Afghanistan opposition Northern Alliance, which opposes the ruling Taliban, has appointed a new military chief to replace leader Ahmad Shah Masood, Reuters reported. Masood was replaced with a general named Mukhammad Fakhim on Sep. 11, a few days after Masood was wounded in an attack. Conflicting reports have stated that Masood was actually killed in the attack. 1501 GMT, 091301 The Washington Post reports that the Bush administration is continuing to gather support for a possible strike against Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden and his supporters in Afghanistan, pressuring neighboring Pakistan for intelligence and logistical backing after winning full NATO support Sept. 12. Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has pledged his country's full cooperation in the probe into the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, VOA news reported, while Saudi Arabia has also reportedly offered its support. The Chinese government is appealing to the United States to consult with countries beyond Europe before launching an attack, BBC reported. 1430 GMT, 091301 Fox News reports that almost all of the hijackers involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks have been identified on flight manifests, including many Saudi and Egyptian nationals and one known supporter of Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, considered a prime suspect in the attacks. The news agency, citing law enforcement officials, said that a flight manifest from one of the four flights included the name of a suspected bin Laden supporter, while one person has also been arrested in connection with the attacks in Hamburg, Germany. 1427 GMT, 091301 U.S. authorities said at least one hijacker on each of the four planes used in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks was trained at a U.S. flight school, AP reported. Overall, 50 people may have been involved in the operation. Attorney General John Ashcroft said 12 to 24 hijackers commandeered the four planes, and a government official said another two dozen or so are believed to have assisted them, AP reported. The Los Angeles Times reports that about 40 of the men have been accounted for, including those killed in the suicide attacks, but 10 remain at large. The Times also reported at least one of the suspects receiving advanced flight training in Florida was a commercial pilot from Saudi Arabia. 1417 GMT, 091301 The Associated Press reports that a former employee at Huffman Aviation school in Venice Venice, Fla., said FBI agents told him that Mohamed Atta, who stayed in his home while training at the local flight school, was involved in the attack on the World Trade Center Sept. 11. The Miami Herald, citing federal authorities, reports that Atta was one of four suspects who died on American Airlines Flight 11, the first jetliner to crash into the center. A second student at Huffman Aviation, identified as Marwan Alshehhi, is also a suspect. 1410 GMT, 091301 Afghanistan's ruling Taliban Sept. 13 dismissed reports linking Osama bin Laden to terrorist attacks on the United States earlier on the week, and reiterated that they would not hand over the Saudi dissident, AFP reported. Reports had surfaced the previous day claiming that the Taliban had arrested bin Laden. The Taliban is reportedly preparing for a possible U.S. attack, sending its top leader into hiding and repositioning its military hardware throughout the country, The Washington Post reported, citing reports from Pakistani intelligence sources.1405 GMT, 091301 Federal aviation officials said they would allow air travel in the United States to resume Sept. 13 morning. U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said authorities were deploying hundreds of U.S. marshals and other agents to airports and airplanes to increase security with the gradual resumption of commercial flights, AP reported. 1400 GMT, 091301 The Times of India has published a report originally carried by an Arabic online newspaper, saying that the Taliban has placed Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden and several of his assistants under house arrest in Afghanistan. A diplomat at the Taliban embassy in Abu Dhabi could not confirm the report. 2318 GMT, 091201 Armed sky marshalls and/or company security officials will accompany flights in the United States for at least a short period of time, possibly indefinitely, according to airline industry officials and the Department of Transportation. 2240 GMT, 091201 Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told Pakistani Ambassador Ma"}, {"response": 190, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:05)", "body": "Koppel said a Pakistani news agency quoted the taliban saying they do not have Bin Laden under house arrest or any other kind. Frontline is going to show an updated version of their documentary on Bin Laden on thursday. They also have an extensive website http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/"}, {"response": 191, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:05)", "body": "The LA Times has a detailed story FBI Identifies Team of 50 Attackers http://latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-091301terror.story"}, {"response": 192, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:16)", "body": "(Eileen) I'll tell you--this is spin. Georgie's being criticized for not returning to DC until late afternoon. I thought the same thing and said so to Ev last night. Bush was in Florida. Symbolically they might have wanted to hit the White House, but this is a crock to deflect newspapers' criticism. Unfortunately, most Americans do not realize that getting key government functions, including the President, to safety means taking them out of Washington and into bunkers and I'm sure the disaster scenarios for the presidency would involve moving him around. The hijackers wouldn't even have known he eventually went up in Air Force One or where it was headed. Totally idiotic. I bet we never see this 'credible' evidence."}, {"response": 193, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:20)", "body": "http://www.rand.org/hot/newslinks.html#terror This is the URL for a Rand report on the state of U.S. anti-terrorism policy as of 2000. Executive summary: we don't have one. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/ This is a joint PBS/NYT site on bin Laden, dating from a little after the first WTC bombings."}, {"response": 194, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:30)", "body": "The die has been cast. The lead story in the Thursday edition of the Washington Post is a detailed description of US negotiations with Pakistan and Tajikstan to provide a staging area or at least safe passage for a mission to track down Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20862-2001Sep12.html The second story starts by saying that Pentagon officials are keeping a tight lid on deployments and planning options, then proceeds to spill the beans extravagantly about the range of plans and preparations in progress for the effort to find and deal with Osama Bin Laden. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20806-2001Sep12.html"}, {"response": 195, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:31)", "body": "Plans underway for massive invasion of Afghanistan: http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,551079,00.html"}, {"response": 196, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:37)", "body": "A wired story reports that FBI agents are busy installing carnivore on ISPs http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46747,00.html"}, {"response": 197, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:38)", "body": "Anti-Attack Feds Push Carnivore By Declan McCullagh 2:00 a.m. Sep. 12, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- Federal police are reportedly increasing Internet surveillance after Tuesday's deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Just hours after three airplanes smashed into the buildings in what some U.S. legislators have dubbed a second Pearl Harbor, FBI agents began to visit Web-based, e-mail firms and network providers, according to engineers at those companies who spoke on condition of anonymity. An administrator at one major network service provider said that FBI agents showed up at his workplace on Tuesday \"with a couple of Carnivores, requesting permission to place them in our core, along with offers to actually pay for circuits and costs.\""}, {"response": 198, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:44)", "body": ""}, {"response": 199, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (10:48)", "body": "From the Guardian article: Nato is now drawing up an emergency plan for a massive attack on Afghanistan if proof emerges that Osama bin Laden, the wanted Saudi-born terrorist sheltered by Afghanistan, was responsible for the attacks. What do they mean by if? A signatory to a treaty is a signatory to a treaty. Also, they are making it sound like it's an obscure passage of the treaty. That it hasn't been invoked isn't relevant IMO. It is the backbone of the NATO alliance. Only the enemy has changed."}, {"response": 200, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (11:14)", "body": "http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/misc/janes010911_2_n.shtml The hunt for Bin Laden begins."}, {"response": 201, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (11:15)", "body": "According to NYPD radio scan police are reporting that Grand Central Station is right now being evacuated and strett traffic has been closed off in the last 10 minutes in that area. there were reports that a transit officer was approached by two passengers that a male dressed in tan was seen with a backpack with wires coming out of it and something attached around his waist. Police have not as of this minute located any peson matching this description. Now the report is that the package or backpack was left on a train from Greenwich, and that the terminal is completely evacuated."}, {"response": 202, "author": "mari", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (11:31)", "body": "(Eileen)Though they could've indeed gone for the White House and done far more damage to the country--Dick Cheney was at his desk. ;-P Oh Eileen, I am laughing in spite of myself, one of the few good laughs in days. Agree that it's spin, but who cares? The fragility of this country was part of the message the Taliban government conveyed in a plea for restraint issued late tonight. It said in part, \"We appeal to the United States not to put Afghanistan into more misery because our people have suffered so much.\" They should have thought of this before they harbored and supported terrorists. And at whose hands have they suffered? They are asking us to show more caring for their people than they themselves have. And this culpability doesn't stop at the Afghan border. I really wonder if the world has the resolve and stomach to do what needs to be done in order to protect and preserve the greater good."}, {"response": 203, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (11:56)", "body": "I really wonder if the world has the resolve and stomach to do what needs to be done in order to protect and preserve the greater good. We have lost some of our freedom. It will never be the same. In Miami one of the thoughts is that Castro might have supported these terrorists. Could you imagine also going after Castro? That would put Miami at a very high risk for attacks."}, {"response": 204, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (12:22)", "body": "(Mari) Agree that it's spin, but who cares? It annoys me. Surely the White House has more pressing problems than Bush's political standing. We appeal to the United States not to put Afghanistan into more misery because our people have suffered so much ...as they pull out their AK-47s. Who are they kidding? Phooey."}, {"response": 205, "author": "winter", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (12:27)", "body": "(Mark) Ben's brother works (I believe) for Morgan Stanley...although it's not their head office in NYC... So his odds are good. I checked with Ben yesterday. You're right, Mark. His brother was midtown, and not in the WTC at the time, thank god. I tuned into a segement of the \"Howard Stern\" show yesterday morning... for some unknown reason. It's really very frightening at how \"trigger happy\" many people are after all this. It's understandable to want to express anger, but there were people calling in ready to invade the Arab/Muslim/South Asian neighborhoods, ready to take revenge. There have alrady been reports of violence. It's complete, total ignorance on their parts, and those callers represent a demographic of this country I'm very ashamed of."}, {"response": 206, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (12:43)", "body": "(Mari) Agree that it's spin, but who cares? (Eileen) It annoys me. Me too, but not because of the political standing concern. Rather than make up lies, just tell the American public the truth of what they were doing and why and that is is SOP in such situations. Surely people would understand that. (Winter) those callers represent a demographic of this country I'm very ashamed of. Until/unless they violate someone's civil liberties or commit criminal acts, we have to tolerate such things as that is what our country's democracy is all about, i.e., standing up for people's rights to say the most vile things."}, {"response": 207, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (13:55)", "body": "More from stratfor: U.S. Must Identify State Sponsors 0120 GMT, 010912 Summary The attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington, D.C., have sent shockwaves across the nation. While international Islamic terrorists organizations linked to Osama bin Laden's Al-Qa'ida group remain the top suspects, some have suggested nations opposed to U.S. global hegemony may also have been involved. Historically, international terrorism has needed state sponsorship in order to be successful. But such involvement would be tantamount to declaring war on the United States, and although the suspect list is long, there is little evidence at the moment that singles any one country out. Analysis The attacks on New York and Washington achieve a number of objectives for the perpetrators. On a strategic level, they demonstrate the vulnerability of the United States. In one fell swoop, the sophisticated and well-coordinated operation paralyzed New York City and the U.S. financial sector, sent the nation's government spiraling into chaos and struck terror in the hearts of the American public. Such a feat, accomplished with only four airline hijackings, is almost impossible to comprehend and will impact U.S. defense and foreign policy for decades to come. By immobilizing the U.S. financial sector, the strike threatens to push a nation, already suffering from a downturn, into recession. This will have ramifications for U.S. influence throughout the globe. It could also damage U.S. markets abroad as well as numerous other nations with economic ties to the United States. Understanding the impact of the attack is important for identifying likely suspects. There is good reason to suspect international terrorist organizations linked to Osama bin Laden's umbrella group, Al-Qa'ida. More important, however, is the question of which, if any, states might also have been involved. The article goes on in much more depth and there are several other articles worth reading at http://www.stratfor.com"}, {"response": 208, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (14:59)", "body": "From my son - his intraoffice email: The official word from the FAA about the new airport security procedures is as follows: Increased passenger and baggage security screenings at all airports. Passengers should plan to arrive at the airport a MINIMUM OF TWO HOURS prior to departure. Passengers must check their luggage at the ticket counter, no curbside check-in allowed. Only passengers holding an electronic ticket receipt, travel agency itinerary, airline ticket card, boarding document, internet printout or paper ticket will be allowed past the security check point. Passengers without receipts of any sort will need to stand in line at the airport ticket counters to obtain a receipt. (You may also contact TI and they will mail, fax or email a receipt to you prior to departing to the airport) Aircraft and airport security sweeps similar to those conducted during the Persian Gulf war. Vehicles will be inspected at terminal parking entrances. Unattended vehicles are banned near the terminals and will be towed. No knives of any size, or made from any material, are permitted on flights. The sale of knifelike items has been banned at all airports. Heightened vigilance for unattended bags. Searches of aircraft cargo and passenger compartments. An increase in number of uniformed law enforcement and military personnel. Random searches of service personal, flight crews and equipment. Reduces access points to secure areas at airports."}, {"response": 209, "author": "winter", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (15:26)", "body": "Thanks for the info. MArcia. I'm curious to know what the procedures are for our friends in other countries. How do these security measures compare to Europe/Australia/Asia/etc.?"}, {"response": 210, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (15:28)", "body": "Is this the end of Duty-Free shopping? I must say I am very happy about about the carry-on luggage ban. The size of those things were getting too large."}, {"response": 211, "author": "toyce", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (15:37)", "body": "I think you will still be allowed carry on items, but just the curb side check service is gone."}, {"response": 212, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (15:53)", "body": "I thought they said wallets and purses only."}, {"response": 213, "author": "toyce", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (15:59)", "body": "O.k. I just didn't see that in the above post. It's quite possible that they will limit it to that."}, {"response": 214, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (16:10)", "body": "Where does it say anything about limiting carry-ons to wallets or purses? Just no curbside check-in per above. Can you imagine turning over your camera to the airlines to check in cargo? I don't think so."}, {"response": 215, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (16:13)", "body": "Wonder about laptops carry-ons. I suspect that they will be banned, as well. I guess we carry a well examined purse and a book to read. Who about nail files? knitting needles? Dental floss? The list is endless if one gets tryly inventive. Even a leather belt! El Al, The Israeli airlines makes inspections like you would not believe. They have the tightest security in the world and NO ONE complains."}, {"response": 216, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (16:15)", "body": "This also from my son about colleagues travelling and caught in this mess: froma memo: We have heard from the rest of our traveling staff. DK is making his way to Chicago from Midland, Michigan via automobile. He is with SS and R. They hope to get on a morning flight to San Francisco out of Chicago. DM, who was on personal travel, is also in Chicago trying to get on a flight or take a Greyhound bus."}, {"response": 217, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (16:20)", "body": "At Last the Aggressors Themselves Are Able to Wedge In a Word Or Two *8-/ Subject: Islamic Jihad, what is next ? Date: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:53 AM From: felipe rodriquez Reply-To: \"felipe rodriquez\" To: ISLAMIC JIHAD, what is next ? (c) Felipe Rodriquez INTRODUCTION The attack on the World Trade Center in New York is a new phase in an ongoing global religious and ideological conflict. This conflict started in 1990, with the gulf war. The mother of all wars, as Saddam Hussein called it, and is unlikely to end for some time. To understand this conflict, we must look at the Western world's exploitation and colonization of Saudi Arabia and other Muslim nations . Economic and geopolitical moves that benefit only the western democratic capitalist structures are the primary cause of this terrible conflict. USAMA BIN MUHAMMAD BIN IN LADEN The Taliban consider Osama Bin Ladin to be a holy man, because of his incredible service in the Afghani war against the Russians, and the reconstruction of Afghanistan. Osama Bin Ladin has fought hundreds of battles in Afghanistan, and has been wounded numerous times. He went to Afghanistan around 1982, and took with him a large amount of construction equipment, and a team of engineers, to rebuild the war torn country. Consequently he became involved in many battles, and was wounded many times. He is a devout Muslim, and answers to Allah and certain important Islamic teachers, such as Sheik Safar Ibn `Abd Al-Rahman Al-Hawali. He founded the \"Al Qaeda\" movement, with Muhammad Atef. The movement was initially setup to record the movements of Mujahedin in Afghanistan. Later the goal changed to driving the United States forces out of Saudi Arabia, where the US setup a military base since the beginning of the Gulf War. Many devout Muslims see this as a hostile invasion of the Islamic holy land, comparable to the invasions of the crusaders in the past. Some years later the goal changed once again, into what it is now; to attack Israel, the US and its allies wherever it can. The justification of these acts, in the mind of the Muslim activist, comes from the foreign occupation of the holy cities; Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem. It is simplistic and short sighted to assume that Osama Bin Laden is the great leader behind the attacks on the WTC, the Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam US embassies, the hit on USS Cole in Yemen and various other terrorist attacks. Islamic religious activism is the glue that binds this global terror movement together. Removing Osama Bin Ladin from the scene will not remove this global movement, and will not end terror. Killing him will only motivate thousands of Muslims to volunteer for the ultimate sacrifice. The Islamic radical movement resembles a hydra, A serpent represented as having many heads, one of which, when cut off, is immediately succeeded by two others. The movement cannot be eradicated by violence and retaliation, such deeds will only make it stronger and increase popular support in the Islamic world. To understand how this works, lets look at Hizbollah and Hamas. These Islamic organizations have been setup in such a way that they are almost impossible to eradicate. There is always double redundancy in the leadership, because any leader can expect to be assassinated by their enemies at any time. The effectiveness of this redundancy is demonstrated by the fact that Hizbollah and Hamas still exist today, despite the fact that many of its leaders have been assassinated by Israel and others. We must assume that the leadership of the organization that hit the WTC, and other targets in the past, is organized in a similar way, building on the experience of Islamic organizations in Lebanon, Palestine and elsewhere. Hamas and Hizbollah have integrated Islamic thought in their society by providing numerous services to their communities. Schools and hospitals are provided for free or at cost. And they materially support families, widows and orphans that have been victims of aggression by their enemies. Hizbollah operates numerous businesses, that together with donations fund the activities of the organization. These social activities provide the organizations with enormous popular support, it is an effective way of disseminating the virtues of Islam, and strengthening its base. It has also created a strong platform to recruit martyrs for the violent Jihad (Holy War) against Israel and its allies. >From documentation that was seized in Africa, after the Nairobi bombing, there is a strong indication that a cell structure was used to limit the risks to the terrorist organization that hit the African embassies, allegedly the same organization that hit the WTC in 2001. A cell structure is often used by violent groups. It is implemented in such a way that cell members only know a limited amount of members of the organization, and only have limited access to information about the planned activities of the group. Typically cell members only know the coordinator of the"}, {"response": 218, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (16:21)", "body": "http://interactive.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Tenant-List.htm is a list of building tenants with status reports on tenants and business."}, {"response": 219, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (16:25)", "body": "I really hope these security precaustions are permanant. I hope to God, they aren't eased up on when people start complaining about the inconvenience. According to the FAA, they claim they have been calling for all airport security personel to become federal employees and trained and paid accordingly, for quite some time. Thet were trying to enforce this, but backed off when all the airlines began protesting."}, {"response": 220, "author": "rachael", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (16:35)", "body": "(Marcia) Only passengers holding an electronic ticket receipt, travel agency itinerary, airline ticket card, boarding document, internet printout or paper ticket will be allowed past the security check point winter, you asked about procedures in Europe - the above has always been the case in the UK to my knowledge - certainly any time I've flown, whether within the UK, within Europe, or to North America (USA and Canada) you cannot get into the departure lounge without a boarding pass which is issued at check-in (and passport for international flights); non-passengers are not allowed past that point. Then at the boarding gate you must show your pass again. If a checked-in passenger does not board, but has put luggage on the plane, the plane will not fly until the luggage has come off. Check in times for USA/Canada have been two hours minimum every time I've done the trip; within Europe its usually an hour; I know someone who checked in 30 minutes before a flight to Dublin (thus was technically late) and was not allowed to board because she'd breeched security regulations. what is curb side check in?"}, {"response": 221, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (17:07)", "body": "There are skycaps at the entrances (curb) who will take your bags and they are put on the plane. You have to produce a valid ticket and photo identification. This is only for domestic flights. Plus you have to tip these guys per bag."}, {"response": 222, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (18:42)", "body": "Science@NASA is based in the United States, but among our many subscribers are a substantial number of readers from other countries. In recent days many of them have written to us expressing their sympathies and horror at the events of Sept. 11th. Their messages, attached below, reveal how the heart-breaking loss of life in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania touches everyone. The staff of Science@NASA extend our heartfelt condolences to the many victims of Tuesday's tragedy, and we thank our friends overseas for their kind messages of support as we resume, later today, our regular schedule of scientific story-telling. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- TO: Ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov FROM: inna_mar@XXXXXXXX.ru Dear Mr. Koczor, All of us are shocked by the awful events that have occurred yesterday in New York and in Washington and we wish to extend our sympathy to you and your colleagues. If there is any way that we can help, please let us know. Sincerely, Inna Mardanyan Moscow, Russia **************************** TO: Ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov FROM: gushat@XXXXXXX.ru Dear friends, Your colleagues from Paleontological Institute of Moscow are with you. Our sympathy, thoughts and support are yours. And will always be. Best regards, Alexei Rzanov, Galina Ushatinskaya, and all colleagues from Moscow **************************** TO: Ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov FROM: snassopoulou@XXXXXXX.gr Dear Ron, We are very sorry and really left astonished and speechless with terrorism struck US yesterday. We sincerely wish and hope that everything is OK for you and all the American colleagues and families. Yours, Sophia Athens, Greece **************************** TO: phillips@spacescience.com FROM: tony.taggett@XXXXXXX.uk Dear Dr Phillips As my only point of contact with the United States is through your science@NASA website, I would like to express my heartfelt condolences to the American people, our thoughts and prayers especially go out to the relatives and friends of those who perished in the awful events that occurred yesterday Yours Sincerely Tony Aggett United Kingdom ***************************** TO: ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov FROM: mmazzolini@XXXXXX.au We would like to offer our deepfelt sympathy, concern and prayers to our friends and colleagues in the US at this dreadful time, Margaret and Alex Mazzolini Melbourne, Australia ***************************** TO: ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov FROM: omaro@XXXXXX.kz We are absolutely shocked by horrible events in the U.S. It is unbelievable...Accept my condolences...Today our world has changed. What will happen to our world? Take care, Prof Omarov Alma Aty, Khazakstan ***************************** TO: ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov FROM: cofXXXXX@home.com As the President of CANADIAN Environmental Science and Research Group and on behalf of the Team of CESAR Group I would like to send our heart felt sorrow to those family members who lost relatives in these vicious and despicable attacks on democracy. God Bless America! Jack Pender Canada ***************************** From: Rafael C\ufffdrdenas Santacruz To: Ronald.J.Koczor@msfc.nasa.gov Sincere greetings Dr. Koczor, Ron Together with my family, we feel very sorry for the regrettable incidents in New York. We are with you with all our hearts. Rafael Cardenas Santacruz Scientific Technician Bogota, Columbia ***************************** TO: Ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov FROM: jarl.ahlbeck@XXXXX.fi In the 1930's Stalin deported and murdered 25,000 Finns that were peacefully living on the Soviet side of the border. It was a blind terror action against civilians, a complete ethnical cleaning of the Karelia county. Without successful defensive fight in the following winter war 1939 when Stalin tried to invade Finland (5 of my uncles were killed, my father injured), we would, according to recently discovered documents from Moscow, all have been deported to Siberia, and I would not sit here and study your website. These terrorists try to create a world of that kind. We do not want this world anymore! All the best for you in the USA Jarl Helsinki, Finland **************************** Necochea, 11/9/01 TO: ron.koczor@msfc.nasa.gov NASA: Hi\ufffd, My name is Maria. I am aware of the attack that has been perpetrated against your country, and I am very sad. I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I am 14 years old and there is not much that I can do to help, but I profoundly admire you and you have my moral support. I would like to ask you a favor. Please reach an agreement without wars, but I hope those responsible are found, so that peace will be extended throughout the world. Sincerely, Maguie. ***************************** From: Jonathon Dugdale To: patrick.meyer@msfc.nasa.gov Sent: 9/11/01 12:37 PM Subject: Condolences On behalf of all the employees and stakeholders of ApexMail I would like to say that we share in your shock, grief and pain resulting from today's unspeakable and cowardly assault. Our thoughts and prayers "}, {"response": 223, "author": "mari", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:06)", "body": "(Marcia) El Al, The Israeli airlines makes inspections like you would not believe. They have the tightest security in the world and NO ONE complains. Right on, Marcia. Below is a fascinating article from today's Philly Inquirer on airport security in Israel. Take a moment to read this, everyone. IMO, *this* is the type of dialogue we should be having, and people need to think now about the balance of personal freedoms and civil liberties vs. much more aggressive security measures. How much of the former are you willing to give up in order to achieve the latter? A little? A lot? I don't have the answers but this is the type of thing I meant before when I wrote that I wondered if people would have the stomach for doing what may be required in the new world order. Military retaliation is only part of it. How Israel remains a model of airport security By Michael Matza INQUIRER STAFF WRITER JERUSALEM - As the United States moves to tighten security at its airports, it may look to the world's model of truly tough airport defense: Israel. Here, any trip on Israel's national airline, El Al, involves not only metal detectors but luggage searches, armed in-flight guards, and a personal grilling by a specially trained antiterrorism officer. Security agents routinely \"profile\" passengers to single out for extra attention Arabs or foreigners who fit ethnic or other parameters. Any foreign visitor who has taken off from Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv knows the drill: arrive two hours before departure, pass all luggage through a monster of a metal detector; open carry-on bags, which sometimes have to be unpacked on a stainless-steel table; and submit to interrogation by a no-nonsense screener. Where have you been in Israel? Whom did you meet? Did you go to the occupied territories of the West Bank and Gaza? Whom did you talk to there? Did you pack your own bags? Are you carrying any gifts? Did anyone give you anything to carry? Do you speak Hebrew? Can you read Hebrew? Have you ever studied Hebrew? Do you understand that I am asking these questions because what may seem like a gift to you may actually be an explosive device? Passengers of Arabic extraction say the questioning can last a very long time and often feels like harassment. Israelis tend to think of it as a necessary evil. In the United States, \"profiling\" would not pass constitutional muster. \"I think that 99 percent of the passengers understand very well the need for security arrangements, and there are not many complaints,\" said Pini Schiff, spokesman for the Israeli Airport Authority and former head of airport security. \"I can tell you, in general terms, that in two or three minutes of questioning, the screeners are doing their best to learn the passenger's aim for coming to Israel,\" Schiff said. \"All the flight checkers are hired by us and trained by us. They go through extensive background checks. All of them have served in the Israeli army and have to pass several tests to make sure that they have the capabilities to do the job.\" When a passenger's answers don't add up, he is denied a boarding pass. Schiff declined to say how often that happens. By questioning passengers, guards quickly can spot those who appear nervous, said Leo Gleser, a former El Al security officer and head of ISDS, a security-consulting firm. In the case of Tuesday's hijackers in the United States, \"not all of them would have made it onto the plane\" if the Israeli approach to security had been used, Gleser told the Associated Press. \"If you detect one, you can start to ask questions\" that might lead to the other members of the group. As another security measure, Ben Gurion passengers are taken by waiting buses to the planes, which are parked far from the terminal on guarded runways. And, although official sources in Israel would not confirm it, it is widely believed that armed, undercover security guards ride aboard every El Al flight. \"We've provided information in the past to other airlines and other airport authorities, and we will continue to share our expertise,\" said Nachman Kleiman, spokesman for El Al. Kleiman declined yesterday to say whether El Al had consulted with the Federal Aviation Administration on the new U.S. measures. \"I can tell you that El Al maintains a high level of security for its passengers by not discussing its procedures in the media,\" he said. Israeli Transportation Minister Efraim Sneh predicted that Tuesday's attacks would lead to security changes. But instead of bringing more high-tech responses, he said, they likely would reinforce the low-tech methods. \"Our screening method is based on identifying the suspect traveler and concentrating on the characteristics of the person,\" Sneh said. \"Screening for explosives only works when the terrorists are using explosives.\" As the world now knows, for Tuesday's terrorists, the plane was the bomb."}, {"response": 224, "author": "nky", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:21)", "body": "Hi everyone! I just like to say that I used work on Wall Street and now am working in midtown. Unfortunately I still have many clients from the downtown location especially in the twin towers. The downtown area is my playground. I know every building and every street. I can name most of the businesses with their building address. I've been watching the news and they're flashing the names of all the businesses in the twin towers and it is devastating to see all the names that I know and was conducting business with. I'm in the buildings couple of times a week for meetings and I was very lucky for not being in the area the day it all happened. My heart and sympathy goes out to all my clients and their families. I can't even begin to say how I feel and have been feeling the past couple of days. I like to also thank all of you for all your wonderful support."}, {"response": 225, "author": "winter", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:23)", "body": "Sorry to spend so much time on the airport security issue... I've heard conflicting reports about what can now be accepted as \"carry on\" baggage. Some have said that purses and wallets only (what to do with backpacks?), others have said that there are no changes except that curbside check in is now banned. Am leaving for Indonesia next month (will live there for a year), packing a laptop, videocam and 35mm camera, books, files, clothes, etc.. Oh dear."}, {"response": 226, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:25)", "body": "Thanks for that, Mari! When I board a plane I want to get to my destination in one piece with my nervous system intact. I have nothing to hide. Search us all and put the fear of a real God in them!"}, {"response": 227, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:29)", "body": "The web grows larger and larger. Germany and Italy to name two."}, {"response": 228, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:45)", "body": "re: Carry-ons, they suggest we had better be prepared to turn on our laptops if we carry them on. Take photos with our digitals and so on. If you are using a standard camera, I'd suggest an empty one so they can open it and see it is just a camera. I am flying to my son's wedding next month. I am just as concerned as you are. I am heading over a very deep ocean and heading for San Francisco. I want to get there intact. I only have one child! I want to attend his wedding!"}, {"response": 229, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:57)", "body": "G O D B L E S S A M E R I C A ! ! !"}, {"response": 230, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:57)", "body": "(of course the flag didn't show up--hang on)"}, {"response": 231, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (19:58)", "body": ""}, {"response": 232, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (20:02)", "body": "let's try again---"}, {"response": 233, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (20:08)", "body": "as an american, it is heart-warming and pride-inducing to hear and feel the goodwill coming across this computer, the tv, and looking out the window. please keep it up. we have friends in the pentagon and know how close to home this has come for us. GOD BLESS YOU ALL! and please, please remember, that anger will not fix this tragedy, will not bring anyone back. feel it but don't act on it. the majority of foreigners who have come here have come for the same reason our pilgrims did so long ago. i am angry, appalled, and very saddened by these events. pray for the leaders of all the countries of the world. please display your flag, put your lights on when you're driving around running errands and take the time to thank your servicemen and women of all walks...this is what they train for."}, {"response": 234, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (20:15)", "body": "did you see London playing our National Anthem? i had goosebumps! thank you, that was very moving!! ABC needs to play it again!!"}, {"response": 235, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (20:18)", "body": "Re: Israeli airline security I know many people who have gone through it for years. You live with it. In the United States, \"profiling\" would not pass constitutional muster. It's done right now at the airports at customs on your return.... Has a smuggler sued on that basis???"}, {"response": 236, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (20:29)", "body": "i think that security at airports will make honest people feel safe but bad guys do think, how would airports prevent the bad guys from hiring in? and who's to say that that hasn't happened already. after all this destruction, the news just reported that several people are in custody from JFK and the G airport (i can't spell it at all). i don't know. we all know how bits of info turn into other things and then we have to go back and amend what was reported."}, {"response": 237, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (21:19)", "body": "its LaGuardia. They arrested 5 people at JFK and 4 at LGA. all were of middle east extraction, sporting phony pilots licenses, demanding to get on those flights. They were arrested. Apparently, a group of 3 men tried to get on a flight on Tuesday at JFK, the pilot was suspicious, called port authority police and then the 3 men vanished..."}, {"response": 238, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (21:24)", "body": "Suspicious stuff was detected at check-in and the guys vanished. No pilots were involved. However, I just heard that a pilot and some flight attendants just tested our new airport security with a pocket knife, a corkscrew and false identification and walked right through and then turned around and told the security personnel. :-("}, {"response": 239, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (21:27)", "body": "Oh Karen!!! I am happy I have a month before my flight."}, {"response": 240, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (21:38)", "body": "Two groups got arrested/detained today trying to board airplanes with fake id's and knives. Peter Jennings was just talking to Senator Joseph Biden, pressing hard to get him to comment on whether or not we're still under attack. He said these guys were the second string and the crisis was over, but he looked visiably shaken and wasn't very convincing. An astrounding comment he made was that he was afraid where Jennings was going to go next and both of them looked shaken. Cheney was moved to Camp David today. Washington was evacuated. > >Whoever's running around with the suitcase nuke or the biological weapon has to be found and stopped before a far worse scenario unfolds."}, {"response": 241, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (22:23)", "body": "The collapse of the WTC towers was detected as a M2.5 on the Richter."}, {"response": 242, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (22:28)", "body": "Not a surprise since each of those floor slabs weighed 300 tons."}, {"response": 243, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (22:37)", "body": "Perhaps it is time to relearn the 4th verse of the National Anthem of the United States. I much prefer it to what we sing now! Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand Between their loved homes and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto: \"In God is our trust.\" And the star-spangled banner forever shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!"}, {"response": 244, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (22:48)", "body": "http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/jfk.airport.detained/index.html about today's two hijack attempts."}, {"response": 245, "author": "mari", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (22:53)", "body": "I know many people who have gone through it for years. You live with it. My point exactly. It's done right now at the airports at customs on your return.... Has a smuggler sued on that basis??? Karen, you know they're talking about profiling on the basis of ethnicity--not picking on middle-class ladies who come off the flight from Milan carrying too many Ferragamo bags.;-). Re: the Jennings/Biden interview. I saw that too, Terry. Was that the most bizarre interview you've ever seen, or what? Now, it's emerging that these guys were all trying to board flights to the west coast (i.e., planes loaded with fuel); armed with knives; and carrying pilot training certs from the same school in Fla. that the Tuesday bombers had attended. Same M-0! Yet, earlier today, the FAA says it's safe to fly and opens the airports. Now, oops--not NY! The FAA is totally incompetent, IMO, and should be removed immediately from having jurisdiction over whether the planes can be permitted to fly. However, I just heard that a pilot and some flight attendants just tested our new airport security with a pocket knife, a corkscrew and false identification and walked right through and then turned around and told the security personnel. :-( See my FAA comment above. It's like Groundhog Day. We keep doing the same thing over and over again, sending out the same poorly-trained minimum wage personnel to do a job that other countries employ highly trained people to do. When I saw the new FAA \"security procedures,\" I'd have laughed if it weren't so pathetic. No plastic knives, huh? Well, that's ok, since they never cut through the crummy food they give you anyway.;-) Seriously, this is *so* primitive! Unbelievable--as I'm typing this, Ted Koppel is interviewing a passenger from the JFK flight. He said they were ready to take off, then about 20 SWAT team members rushed aboard shouting at everyone to hit the floor, and they pulled 3 people off the flight, one of whom was violently resisting arrest. But hey, let's open those airports. :-( I'm at a loss."}, {"response": 246, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (23:20)", "body": "NASA released aerial shots today, of lower Manhatttan taken from outer space. The pre-collapse smoke eminating from the twin towers, is clearly visible. So is the big gaping gap where the twin towers used to be, once they collpased. It was surreal seeing the pictures."}, {"response": 247, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (23:22)", "body": "you know they're talking about profiling on the basis of ethnicity--not picking on middle-class ladies who come off the flight from Milan carrying too many Ferragamo bags.;-). LOL! Am reminded of my astonishment that my own parents were not strip-searched many many years ago on their return from Hong Kong. They must be the only people on the face of the earth who bought nothing. Who would've believed that? ;-) But seriously, ethnic and other profiling is routine at security/customs checkpoints now. Take drugs for example...or the chubby white guy with Rolexes up and down his arm. Have just heard back from my cousin, an air traffic controller in Miami. He too says there's no likelihood that any plane would've been a threat to Air Force One. What shocked him is the return to DC. Even after the 4th plane crashed in PA, there were still thousands of planes still in the air. That's why he couldn't go back to DC."}, {"response": 248, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (04:28)", "body": "Hi all I may have upset one or two people when I said \"Why do many Americans want war?\" for which I apologise but these people did not care who got hit and some people thought the Libyans should be bombed even though Muhammad Gadaffi (right person??)condemned the attacks. If Libya did have a role then they deserve to get hit but I am only seeing stuff about the Osama bin Laden monster who resides in Afghanistan and whom should be extradited and tried anyway, OR if he is the mastermind, bombed into the ground. Bombs away if they are implicated, and GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS FREEDOM AND GOD BLESS HUMANITY!!!!!!!!! Rob"}, {"response": 249, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (08:29)", "body": "Could you unlock your Cap Lock key? Thanks."}, {"response": 250, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (08:49)", "body": "My sister sent this to me, I think it's in wide circulation on the net. Subject: From: \"Nadia Zierke\" TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his Trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: \"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those.\" Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!! This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read regarding the United States. It is nice that one man realizes it. I only wish that the This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read regarding the United States. It is nice that one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of the world would realize it. We are always blamed for everything, and never even get a thank you for the things we do. I would hope that each of you would send this to as many people as you can and emphasize that they should send it to as many of their friends until this letter is sent to every person on the web. I am just a single American that has read this, I SURE HOPE THAT A LOT MORE READ IT SOON."}, {"response": 251, "author": "kolin", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (08:53)", "body": "\"Tribute to the United States\" This was written by Gordon Sinclair in 1973 regarding the Vietnam war. Gordon Sinclair died in 1984, but his sentiments resonate powerfully today. Canadians mourn with the Americans and are prepared to help any way they can. Anywhere between 50-500 Canadians are expected to be among the casualties of this horrific act. We are going to have a nationwide memorial service and moment of silence today. This attack was against all of us no matter where we live or come from."}, {"response": 252, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (09:11)", "body": "\"you know they're talking about profiling on the basis of ethnicity..\" I can just see the suits now on the basis of racial discrimination . We are a litigious society. This would never be tolerated. For years I was searched at Heathrow; someone on the Most Wanted List must have looked like me. I never minded. But this would never be done in the US."}, {"response": 253, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (09:12)", "body": "Yes, that email is making its rounds."}, {"response": 254, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:24)", "body": "Two of the world's most impressive structures have been taken down and over 10% of New Yorks office space has been eliminated. You get a sinking feeling when you read Bin Laden's biography and read that he has a degree in 1979 from King Abdul Aziz University in ... Civil Engineering. He has been running a construction company for over a quarter of a century. Meanwhile . . . WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 20 police officers, many in SWAT gear, stormed an American Airlines jetliner at New York's Kennedy Airport on Thursday, subduing one man and handcuffing two others, possibly thwarting a hijacking attempt, a passenger aboard the plane told ABC News. http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010914/ts/attack_tradecenter_report_dc_1.html More (from CNN): 10 people arrested, getting on two planes -- one in JFK, one in LaGuardia. Some were trained in piloting at the same school as the hijackers on Tuesday. Some got caught at checkpoints, some made it onto planes. \"WASHINGTON, NEW YORK (Reuters)\" ... \"The Defense Department asked Bush to authorize the activation of tens of thousands of military reserve troops for ''homeland defense'', defense officials said.\" \"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld planned to activate between 30,000 and 50,000 reservists to provide ``strike-alert'' jet fighter protection and perform other duties at domestic military bases.\" ... \"Afghanistan's ruling Taliban movement, which shelters bin Laden, warned of revenge ``by other means' if the United States attacked their country in retaliation for Tuesday's attacks.\" ... \"An ABC News/Washington Post poll released on Friday showed that nearly nine in 10 Americans approved of Bush's job performance -- a huge leap in the aftermath of Tuesday's terror attacks.\" \"Nearly seven out of 10 Americans supported military action against the groups or countries responsible for the attacks, even if that meant a long war with heavy U.S. casualties, the poll found.\" http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010914/ts/attack_dc_40.html"}, {"response": 255, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:27)", "body": "http://islamicsupremecouncil.org/Condemnation/support/bin_ladens_nukes.htm BIN LADEN'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS \ufffd ex-Soviet Warheads Become Fuel for Portable Terrorist Nuclear Bombs \ufffdArab-funded terrorists smuggle nuclear warheads, purchased from the Russian mafia with opium and cash out of Russian territory, reaching Khost overland via secret routes through Uzbekistan. There, former Soviet scientists remove the active uranium to be processed and placed in backpack-sized nuclear bombs\ufffdready for transportation to the West undetected\ufffdto explode in a blast of nuclear terror. Al-Watan al-Arabi, an Arabic language newsmagazine, reports that worldwide terrorist mastermind Usama bin Laden has used two tons of opium and $30 million to purchase over twenty nuclear warheads. Bin Laden has hired an international team of rogue nuclear scientists working in a secret underground base to convert warheads stolen from former Soviet republics into miniature portable nuclear devices capable of striking targets around the globe. The newsmagazine further states that bin Laden developed ties with the mafias of former Soviet republics during the Afghan War which provided him the key to obtaining nuclear missile warheads from the disintegrating USSR. The Arab Afghans, as bin Laden\ufffds fighters are often called, have established extensive bases and networks in many of the Central Asian and Caucasian republics where, due to the weakness of the central government and the minimal security, they are able to thrive unhindered. These terrorist groups operate under the cloak of extremist Islam claiming to oppose the local governments on religious grounds. However, in addition to their calls for the overthrow of \ufffdcorrupt Islamic governments\ufffd these groups serve as a channel for bin Laden to trade Afghani opium to the Russian mafia in exchange for stolen nuclear warheads. Al-Watan\ufffds sources reveal that bin Laden recently sent a delegation representing himself and the Afghani mafia to meet with the mafias of the former Soviet republics. These mafia groups share a common extremist ideology and have disguised their criminal activities under the name of Islam. These mafias have terrorized the governments of the newly-formed Central Asian republics intending to destroy them and replace them with those following their fierce, extremist ideology. This meeting of mafias was a prelude to bringing bin Laden out of Afghanistan and into power in one of these Central Asian"}, {"response": 256, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:28)", "body": "http://www.smh.com.au/news/0104/30/world/world8.html http://www.msnbc.com/news/295108.asp"}, {"response": 257, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:39)", "body": "I may have posted this before, but it's significant, this is what makes these attacks possible. Osama Bin Laden is using web encryption - from an article published months ago in USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001-02-05-binladen.htm I hate to use the term, but Bin Laden and the terrorists are a global, virtual community, they don't have to be in one physical place to survive, they can disperse to the far corners of the earth and still maintain contact using 128 bit encryption. That's the scariest part of all this this, they are invisible to all our current monitoring technology. They are extremely difficult to pinpoint and attack. This is what scares me the most about all this."}, {"response": 258, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:39)", "body": "WASHINGTON \ufffd Hidden in the X-rated pictures on several pornographic Web sites and the posted comments on sports chat rooms may lie the encrypted blueprints of the next terrorist attack against the United States or its allies. It sounds farfetched, but U.S. officials and experts say it's the latest method of communication being used by Osama bin Laden and his associates to outfox law enforcement. Bin Laden, indicted in the bombing in 1998 of two U.S. embassies in East Africa, and others are hiding maps and photographs of terrorist targets and posting instructions for terrorist activities on sports chat rooms, pornographic bulletin boards and other Web sites, U.S. and foreign officials say. from the above url"}, {"response": 259, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:40)", "body": "\"Uncrackable encryption is allowing terrorists \ufffd Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaida and others \ufffd to communicate about their criminal intentions without fear of outside intrusion,\" FBI Director Louis Freeh said last March during closed-door testimony on terrorism before a Senate panel. \"They're thwarting the efforts of law enforcement to detect, prevent and investigate illegal activities.\" A terrorist's tool Once the exclusive domain of the National Security Agency, the super-secret U.S. agency responsible for developing and cracking electronic codes, encryption has become the everyday tool of Muslim extremists in Afghanistan, Albania, Britain, Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Syria, the USA, the West Bank and Gaza and Yemen, U.S. officials say. It's become so fundamental to the operations of these groups that bin Laden and other Muslim extremists are teaching it at their camps in Afghanistan and Sudan, they add. \"There is a tendency out there to envision a stereotypical Muslim fighter standing with an AK-47 in barren Afghanistan,\" says Ben Venzke, director of special intelligence projects for iDEFENSE, a cyberintelligence and risk management company based in Fairfax, Va. \"But Hamas, Hezbollah and bin Laden's groups have very sophisticated, well-educated people. Their technical equipment is good, and they have the bright, young minds to operate them,\" he said. U.S. officials say bin Laden's organization, al-Qaida, uses money from Muslim sympathizers to purchase computers from stores or by mail. Bin Laden's followers download easy-to-use encryption programs from the Web, officials say, and have used the programs to help plan or carry out three of their most recent plots: Wadih El Hage, one of the suspects in the 1998 bombing of two U.S. embassies in East Africa, sent encrypted e-mails under various names, including \"Norman\" and \"Abdus Sabbur,\" to \"associates in al Qaida,\" according to the Oct. 25, 1998, U.S. indictment against him. Hage went on trial Monday in federal court in New York. Khalil Deek, an alleged terrorist arrested in Pakistan in 1999, used encrypted computer files to plot bombings in Jordan at the turn of the millennium, U.S. officials say. Authorities found Deek's computer at his Peshawar, Pakistan, home and flew it to the National Security Agency in Fort Meade, Md. Mathematicians, using supercomputers, decoded the files, enabling the FBI to foil the plot. Ramzi Yousef, the convicted mastermind of the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, used encrypted files to hide details of a plot to destroy 11 U.S. airliners. Philippines officials found the computer in Yousef's Manila apartment in 1995. U.S. officials broke the encryption and foiled the plot. Two of the files, FBI officials say, took more than a year to decrypt. \"All the Islamists and terrorist groups are now using the Internet to spread their messages,\" says Reuven Paz, academic director of the Institute for Counter-Terrorism, an independent Israeli think tank. Messages in dots U.S. officials and militant Muslim groups say terrorists began using encryption \ufffd which scrambles data and then hides the data in existing images \ufffd about five years ago. But the groups recently increased its use after U.S. law enforcement authorities revealed they were tapping bin Laden's satellite telephone calls from his base in Afghanistan and tracking his activities. \"It's brilliant,\" says Ahmed Jabril, spokesman for the militant group Hezbollah in London. \"Now it's possible to send a verse from the Koran, an appeal for charity and even a call for jihad and know it will not be seen by anyone hostile to our faith, like the Americans.\" Extremist groups are not only using encryption to disguise their e-mails but their voices, too, Attorney General Janet Reno told a presidential panel on terrorism last year, headed by former CIA director John Deutsch. Encryption programs also can scramble telephone conversations when the phones are plugged into a computer. \"In the future, we may tap a conversation in which the terrorist discusses the location of a bomb soon to go off, but we will be unable to prevent the terrorist act when we cannot understand the conversation,\" Reno said. Here's how it works: Each image, whether a picture or a map, is created by a series of dots. Inside the dots are a string of letters and numbers that computers read to create the image. A coded message or another image can be hidden in those letters and numbers. They're hidden using free encryption Internet programs set up by privacy advocacy groups. The programs scramble the messages or pictures into existing images. The images can only be unlocked using a \"private key,\" or code, selected by the recipient, experts add. Otherwise, they're impossible to see or read. \"You very well could have a photograph and image with the time and information of an attack sitting on your computer, and you would never know it,\" Venzke says. \"It will look no different than a photograph exchanged between two friends or fami"}, {"response": 260, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:42)", "body": "\"I can tell you that El Al maintains a high level of security for its passengers by not discussing its procedures in the media,\" he said. HEAR, HEAR! Am I alone in believing that far too much information is given to terrorists, criminals, enemies in the name of \"freedom of speech\"?"}, {"response": 261, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:48)", "body": "And as a follow up to the above, from zdnet news The hunt for suspects in Tuesday's terrorist attacks has moved online. America Online has handed the FBI e-mail records for accounts belonging to the suspected hijackers, according to a report on CNN's Web site Thursday. AOL spokesman Andrew Weinstein declined to comment on any matters involving the investigation. AOL Time Warner's online division stores logs of when instant messaging users are on the network; it also can access e-mail correspondence under certain situations. \"We are cooperating with (the FBI) in this ongoing investigation,\" Nicholas Graham, spokesman for Dulles, Va.-based AOL, said Wednesday. Although Graham wouldn't provide details, he denied reports that the company had agreed to install a Carnivore surveillance system. The FBI developed Carnivore, now renamed DCS1000, to allow it to wiretap communications that go through Internet service providers. \"We are able to provide them with information on an immediate basis,\" he said, stressing that such an ability made Carnivore unnecessary. On Wednesday, EarthLink also acknowledged that it is working with the FBI to turn over specific information that may be relevant to the case. EarthLink's vice president of communications, Dan Greenfield, confirmed that the Atlanta-based ISP was served with a warrant under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to turn over information. FISA limits the ability of intelligence and law enforcement agencies--essentially the FBI, the CIA and the military information-gathering National Security Agency--from spying on the American public. The warrant covers investigations relating to the leakage of information to a foreign government and requires less burden of proof than a warrant in a criminal case. The directors of the FBI and the CIA as well as the secretaries of state and defense are the only government officials allowed to request a FISA warrant. Calling the warrant \"equivalent to a wiretap,\" Greenfield also denied that the company had let the FBI install a Carnivore system. \"We are not installing any equipment,\" he said. \"We are cooperating with a very specific request. There are concerns from our customers that we are giving arbitrary access to our network, and we are not.\" Most of the clues that have turned up so far in the hunt for suspects have been dug up through typical investigative footwork, not high-tech sleuthing. Authorities are searching for the accomplices of a well-organized group of suicide hijackers who commandeered four commercial jets Tuesday, effectively turning them into flying bombs. Two flattened the World Trade Center, while a third seriously damaged the Pentagon. The fourth plane crashed in a field. Some of the victims on hijacked aircraft used cell phones to describe the attacks to people on the ground. In addition, a review of the passenger lists has offered some leads. So far, five Arab men have been identified by Massachusetts authorities as suspects, according to two Boston newspapers. Authorities have also seized a rental car containing Arabic-language flight-training manuals at the city's Logan International Airport, where two of the hijacked planes originated, the papers reported. U.S. agents served warrants on homes and searched businesses in south Florida; they also issued alerts for two cars in connection with the attacks, local media reported. Jack Mattera, director of computer forensics for The Intelligence Group, which specializes in corporate investigations and crisis management, stressed that information technology will likely play a crucial role in finding out who planned the suicide attacks. \"Using high-tech to investigate is critical,\" he said. \"There are some things that gumshoe work is just not going to find.\" Security experts described Tuesday's attack as low-tech, with reports of knives being used as the primary weapons in the hijackings. Nevertheless, many suspect computers and the Internet may have played a critical role in planning the complex and highly coordinated operation. In February, George Tenet, the director of the CIA, warned members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that terrorists were using the Internet and high-tech tools to communicate. \"International terrorist networks have used the explosion in information technology to advance their capabilities,\" he told the committee. Mark Mansfield, spokesman for the CIA, declined to explain what tools the agency was bringing to bear, saying \"it would be ill-advised for us to talk about (our methods). It would not be a prudent thing to do.\" Both the NSA and the FBI declined comment as well. However, The Intelligence Group's Mattera said he believed that the requests for online information may be to check out the people who posted suspicious information in public chat rooms or online. \"I think there is some indication that there may have been some information posted to different groups that didn't specifically alert people at the time,"}, {"response": 262, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:51)", "body": "Gerard is still talking to us from on the ground in NYC. Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Fri Sep 14 '01 (08:37) 45 lines Early this morning, looking out the window at the street, I suddenly started to see in my mind a whole chain of images from the last week. This was the first day when I had nothing in front of me that I had to do, and I just started to run the images... the rumble in my building, the confused chatter on the radio, the television images of the second plane coming in... the street outside my house with dozens all running toward the promenade to see the horro across the river.. the twin towers tall in the crisp and bright morning with the flames and smoke streaming up like obscene claws coming out of the building. and the sound and the sight of the first tower just going down and going down and the blast of dust up and spewing out of the canyons of wall street and the screams and wails around me as what we saw was so far beyond our ability to comprehend the enormity of it that we could have been just ants gazing at the sole of a descending boot... and the sick wet rumble that came across the water like a screaming beast having its innards torn out and the smoke, the immense plume of smoke that darkened the sun and went on and still goes on... and the rest of the day a dim numb blur i had i think something to eat and i went to get coffee in the bright sunlight with a friend and i called my daughter and found she was safe and far uptown, except of course she was not safe, as none of our children will ever be safe again until that thing that caused this is crushed and killed and ground to dust and sent down into the pit of oblivion forever."}, {"response": 263, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:59)", "body": "Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Fri Sep 14 '01 (08:43) 28 lines and going back to my place and watching the endless repeats and the endless parade of the doomed and the wounded and the hordes of people in the distance jamming the bridge, the brooklyn bridge on which two large american flags fly, these people all going one direction, one direction only... out and away from the stench and the terror and the death... and somewhere in there the second tower came down down on thousands trying to escape and down on hundreds of what have to be the bravest and most noble souls in the world, the fireman, the fireman who were going up the stairs... up the stairs... UP THE STAIRS... we cannot know what sort of human spirit that takes we can never know... i have no humanity and no manhood and no courage when compared to these men, none of us do none of us... do you all understand that they went into this building and up the stairs?"}, {"response": 264, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (10:59)", "body": "I am ready and willing to give up my civil liberties if it means that we can remain safe here in the US and the rest of the world. People need to realize that right now, and not complain about it, as they inevitably will."}, {"response": 265, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (11:04)", "body": "Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Fri Sep 14 '01 (08:56) 50 lines and the day went on and went on... inside to television.. outside into the reality... and the smell of it got stronger and the white ash of concrete ash of steel ash of paper ash of human beings drifted over me and everythingand everyone around me and settled white and obscene on everything and the smoke went on and the streets were filled with people whose faces were filled with fear and with grief and with anger and nobody spoke except to whisper to those next to them that they knew or perhaps did not know but knew now in this terrible day at some point i began to take pictures of the skyline which was not there any more, of the lives that weren't there any more... of little things... but it wasn't any use... it was pointless... feeling grief was pointless... only rage seemed to have a point, rage and hate, and it seemed important, very very important to retain that rage and hate as a wall against the pain and the despair... i walked out again and again to look across the river and to smell the smoke and to see the dust because i knew that nothing would ever be the same again, i knew that something had killed my world and the world of those i loved... of the world of all of us...and that no matter what we did that world would never be returned to us... that we could and we must honor and remember it.. that we must take terrible and complete vengence on those whose evil took it from us no matter what the cost... but that world, that indian summer world, would not be returned anymore than the lives of those who went up the stairs in the burning and collapsing tower would be returned. this morning for the first time i have been weeping, weeping not in tears but in a kind of dry low screaming agony that sweeps up in my chest. it comes and shakes me and then it goes away. i'm going to go out into this world now to tend to the little needs of my little day in my little world. i can't bear to remember anymore of this week for now even though I remember it all."}, {"response": 266, "author": "kolin", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (11:41)", "body": "Over 100,000 people participated at the memorial service in Ottawa, with speeches by Jean Chretien, US ambassador Paul Celluci and Governor General Adrienne Clarkson. Chretien expressed the resolve of Canada to fully supprt U.S at this difficult time."}, {"response": 267, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (13:06)", "body": "Tony Blair's speech to the special session of Parliament was carried on FOX. He also expressed the support and allegiance to the US in tracking down the terrorists by every means available. Eloquent and sincere. Much appreciated."}, {"response": 268, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (13:13)", "body": "Am I alone in believing that far too much information is given to terrorists, criminals, enemies in the name of \"freedom of speech\"? You are walking a very thin line here. But I agree with you. The thought of them having the possibility to make \"backpack nuclear bombs\" is a scary one. God bless us all!"}, {"response": 269, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (13:33)", "body": "President Bush gave a very inspiring speech at the National Cathedral as did Billy Graham. I was reduced to tears. My friend Jean is still awaiting word of her sister who was at the WTC for a conference."}, {"response": 270, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (13:33)", "body": ""}, {"response": 271, "author": "rachael", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (13:49)", "body": "we had a three minute silence and a candle-lit vigil at work today, at 11am, led by our chaplain. It was very moving and I'm glad I was there, although it feels such a small thing to do in the face of such enormity. Tony Blair said we (in the UK) stand shoulder to shoulder with the USA; NATO said an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us; we know now that this is true, that along with thousands of Americans were hundreds of British citizens, Irish, Canadians, Australians, and more, and this event will touch many of us, world wide. My father, my uncle, and my grandfather were all firefighters. The loss of some of New York's finest is keenly felt in this home, many miles away. I'm lucky, my friend escaped, my cousin's colleagues and friends are safe. My heart goes out to those not so lucky, and I just hope the prayers we said and the thoughts we had, at 11am this morning in the UK, go some way to comfort those shouldering terrible burdens. I think I read somewhere that at 7pm tonight, US time, candles will be lit. 7pm in NYC is midnight here; I'll be lighting a candle then. Shoulder to shoulder; an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. God bless you"}, {"response": 272, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (14:10)", "body": "(Mari) When I saw the new FAA \"security procedures,\" I'd have laughed if it weren't so pathetic. No plastic knives, huh? Well, that's ok, since they never cut through the crummy food they give you anyway.;-) Seriously, this is *so* primitive! B'ness as usual: 1. Panic. 2. Create specific reactive measures instead of broad proactive measures (golly gee, all 18+ hijackers answered the 'did you pack you own suitcase' question truthfully and they probably skipped curbside check-in). 3. Panic some more. Aargh! I was also LOL about the knives. Whatever will they do in first class, where the cutable food is served? Wait until someone chokes and sues. Or maybe they'll just ban airline food all together, or restrict it to the likes of those Otis Spunkmeyer cookies served by SouthWest. ;-) Winter, by the time you leave for Indo the carry-on requirements might be better defined. You could also look into shipping some of those items ahead."}, {"response": 273, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (14:24)", "body": "posted to a listserve Dear Friends, The following was sent to me by my friend Tamim Ansary. Tamim is an Afghani-American writer. He is also one of the most brilliant people I know in this life. When he writes, I read. When he talks, I listen. Here is his take on Afghanistan and the whole mess we are in. -Gary T. Dear Gary and whoever else is on this email thread: I've been hearing a lot of talk about \"bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age.\" Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this atrocity, but \"we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What else can we do?\" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we \"have the belly to do what must be done.\" And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing. I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that something must be done about those monsters. But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden, think Hitler. And when you think \"the people of Afghanistan\" think \"the Jews in the concentration camps.\" It's not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country. Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food. There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban. We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age. Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already. Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses? Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide. Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with the Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping all this time So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When people speak of \"having the belly to do what needs to be done\" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end the west would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the bel"}, {"response": 274, "author": "Becka", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (14:33)", "body": "Rachael - My father, too, was one of the head Fire Chiefs in Toronto. Two of my uncles are currently Captains (it seems to run in families, doesn't it?) I am totally devastated by the deaths of those brave men. My Dad is crushed, and he just had a cornea transplant which makes his pain even worse. My Dad had meet those chiefs who died in NYC on a couple of occassions at international events. If it had been here, in Toronto, I probably would have lost a few members of my family. I am trying to help my Dad's department organize something here cause like many, I really want to help. At the moment I have had to turn the TV off as they are putting faces on the dead, and it is breaking my heart. Here in Canada 100,000 people showed up at Parliament Hill in Ottawa for a memorial ceremony - that is a huge number. I am so proud of Canadians, so proud for the world for sharing in this grief."}, {"response": 275, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (14:43)", "body": "Had the TV on all morning, sobbing. Each story is more heartbreaking than the next."}, {"response": 276, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (15:15)", "body": "Washington Post New York Airport Suspects Cleared By Donna De La Cruz Associated Press Writer Friday, Sept. 14, 2001; 11:12 a.m. EDT NEW YORK \ufffd\ufffd About a dozen travelers of Middle Eastern descent who were detained at two New York airports have been cleared of any connection with this week's terrorist attacks, federal authorities said Friday. One person, however, remained in custody, said Barry Mawn, head of the FBI's New York office. That person had not immediately been charged and may be released, Mawn said. The incidents Thursday caused the region's three major airports \ufffd Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark, N.J. \ufffd to close again just hours after service had been restored because of the attacks. Authorities had been investigating whether the two groups \ufffd detained at Kennedy and LaGuardia \ufffd were more would-be hijackers or people related to the attack trying to flee the New York area. Sen. Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told CNN the arrests were based on suspicions that the men were linked to Tuesday's attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. One man was arrested because he was belligerent, while the others were merely detained and questioned, according to the senator's chief of staff, Alan Hoffman. Biden said there were explanations for the suspicions. One man was originally thought to be traveling with a fake pilot's license. Biden said the man was a pilot who also had his brother's identification. \"His brother happened to live in an apartment complex that was one in Boston where some of these people had actually been,\" said Biden, D-Del. Others were traveling to a Boeing Co. conference, either because they work for the airline manufacturer or were invited, Biden added. \"The folks at the airport thought, 'Hey, wait a minute, are they impersonating crew?' And they weren't.\" Mawn said he could not verify reports that the individuals had been taken forcibly off a plane. ---------------------------- I saw an interview on Good Morning American. A passenger said the pilot - after talking with those on board - told them to buckle up because they would soon be taking off. About 20 minutes later, men with guns drawn, in full riot gear, came in the rear and took the suspects away."}, {"response": 277, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (15:21)", "body": "This is incredible stuff - world wide empathy and support feels very good, indeed. Lest anyone mistake Rob's comments in Caps, I want to assure you that he is a very special friend; conservative, itelligent and thoughtful. He is not given to overstatement nor emotionalism. Emphasis is what those Caps were for, and, Rob, many warm thanks for your doing so."}, {"response": 278, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (15:49)", "body": "Tamim Ansary. Tamim is an Afghani-American writer. Wonder what this guy is doing to help his country except write emails?"}, {"response": 279, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (15:55)", "body": "Washington Post New York Airport Suspects Cleared By Donna De La Cruz Associated Press Writer Friday, Sept. 14, 2001; 11:12 a.m. EDT NEW YORK \ufffd\ufffd About a dozen travelers of Middle Eastern descent who were detained at two New York airports have been cleared of any connection with this week's terrorist attacks, federal authorities said Friday. One person, however, remained in custody, said Barry Mawn, head of the FBI's New York office. That person had not immediately been charged and may be released, Mawn said. The incidents Thursday caused the region's three major airports \ufffd Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark, N.J. \ufffd to close again just hours after service had been restored because of the attacks. Authorities had been investigating whether the two groups \ufffd detained at Kennedy and LaGuardia \ufffd were more would-be hijackers or people related to the attack trying to flee the New York area. Sen. Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told CNN the arrests were based on suspicions that the men were linked to Tuesday's attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. One man was arrested because he was belligerent, while the others were merely detained and questioned, according to the senator's chief of staff, Alan Hoffman. Biden said there were explanations for the suspicions. One man was originally thought to be traveling with a fake pilot's license. Biden said the man was a pilot who also had his brother's identification. \"His brother happened to live in an apartment complex that was one in Boston where some of these people had actually been,\" said Biden, D-Del. Others were traveling to a Boeing Co. conference, either because they work for the airline manufacturer or were invited, Biden added. \"The folks at the airport thought, 'Hey, wait a minute, are they impersonating crew?' And they weren't.\" Mawn said he could not verify reports that the individuals had been taken forcibly off a plane. ---------------------------- I saw an interview on Good Morning American. A passenger said the pilot - after talking with those on board - told them to buckle up because they would soon be taking off. About 20 minutes later, men with guns drawn, in full riot gear, came in the rear and took the suspects away."}, {"response": 280, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (16:00)", "body": "Womack Diary, Day 3 *8-/ Subject: Day 3, and this morning Date: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:10 AM From: Womack, Jack Our secretary Heather (who just moved here from Alaska, two weeks ago) and myself are the only people on our floor so far this morning. Yesterday we were essentially told the building would be open, but after that it was up to us. And, as my ISP is down in the Closed Zone (I called them \"control zones,\"), I can't do email from home (and so won't be writing again till Monday), here I am, at least for a couple of hours. This morning it's raining, very hard, a frog-strangler. I don't think it's rained this hard this consistently all year. My pants are still wet and the tie's soaked through. This has made rescue attempts pretty much impossible, today, not that at this point anyone is really expecting survivors -- they were saying on the news that the dust down there, wet, has the consistency of oatmeal; and that with every half-inch of rain that falls, several additional tons of weight begin pressing down on everything. The subways down there have also all flooded, even before this, what with water main breaks in evidently several locations (This water of course is also soaking into foundations throughout the area). It's also turning much cooler -- somewhere in the 60s today, and yesterday afternoon it got up to the mid-80s, I think, and was humid enough to notice. It came to me this morning that the reason 30,000 body bags are on hand for what appears will be 5,000 casualties is that the 5,000 are all in pieces, and each piece of course will need to be bagged separately. There was a drawing in the Daily News today showing the outlines of all the buildings surrounding where the Trade Towers stood, and noting that at least 9 of them have suffered major structural damage. The Milennium (sic) Hotel and 1 Liberty Plaza I mentioned yesterday. Among the others in bad shape is one of my favorites, the 1927 Bell Telephone building at the corner of Barclay & West. It stands next to both the North Tower and 7 WTC, both of which collapsed. It's a Ferris-silhouette art deco beauty, and the building is built over the sidewalk on the Barclay St. side, a stone arcade running the length of the block. Cool in the summer. It looks like the only residential area fully evacuated was Battery Park City, where Ellie lives (she is still staying with patrick & Teresa, I am hoping she's been able to get some sleep soon). No word on when that'll open back up but I can't imagine it'll be anytime soon. THis morning, coming out of the subway, I was maybe one of three or four people. After yesterday, which at moments almost felt like a normal day (or, rather, a day in the gone world), today seems much more like Wednesday did, except far more grim due to the rain. As all of you know in the rain New York's color goes, essentially, gray. Very gray. And that's how it looks today. With luck, it will at least finally clear the dust out of the atmosphere (it struck me yesterday that one of the many interesting things we've all been breathing in the past few days are bits of infinitesimally powdered glass). But if the other buildings start falling, the cloud will come back. In this sort of weather in the past, of course, the cloud cover overlying NY would generally be so low as to hide the Trade Towers for view, and it was pleasant to be able to fantasize, at such moments, what downtown NY used to look like when they weren't there. I was reading, somewhere, that some European is already saying that he & others will get all European nations to help rebuild at least one of the towers if not both, bigger and taller and clearly even more of a hideous target. Thank you Europe, but no, please. Here are the ongoing bigger or more interesting changes in the event, both onsite and in media, that I'm noticing. I talked about some of these last night with Clute. 1. The first media memorial teddy bear site appeared. In Union Square, which is right at 14th Street where the No-Traffic Zone begins. Some workmen brought up a piece of steel from the Trade Towers and wrapped it around a stele, or flagpole, or something -- they never pan up of course to show you what the thing is, focusing instead on the flowers being left. The one good thing is at this point, no teddy bears have appeared. It's mostly single flowers and pictures of missing people, so I'm actually not sure that a media-driven Mourning Zone will take hold. I suspect because everything in New York is a Mourning Zone, and everyone here is too much in shock, still, to even be thinking of those goddamned teddy bears. 2. The dawning awareness of New Yorkers, such as myself & Ellen Datlow (who I met for a couple of drinks last night, down in Chelsea, as she was finally able to get above 14th.), that this is actually being paid attention to out in the country. A very funny thing, this -- the sense I think held to varying lengths of time by people who live here that what has happened is in some "}, {"response": 281, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (16:08)", "body": "Evelyn, Tamsin is an Afghani-American who has been living here for 35. His country is America. Thank you for posting Tamsin's letter. We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. My husband is Italian and he has been saying this for years, that it would happen. This is their holy war, this is just what they want. Americans and the international community believe they will be going to war to fight against terrorist, but they will be fighting the holy war."}, {"response": 282, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (16:26)", "body": "Marcia, I wasn't at all offended by Rob's use of capital letters. He only used them to emphasize one particular thought in his post. It is a time of high emotion and different people express themselves differently. As it is also a time of high stress, some may react to certain things more strongly than would be the norm. It would seem that no harm was meant either by Rob or those who had been put off by his use of upper case letters. I've been able to contact my friends living in New York. Everyone is physically fine, but they say that they feel emotionally sick and bruised. So do I for that matter. Lastly, the Pennsylvania crash site isn't all that near Pittsburgh. It lies about 80 miles to the southeast, near the Maryland border, about 35 miles SSW of Johnstown. Pittsburgh is the largest city near it, and more people have an idea of where Pittsburgh is than were Johnstown, PA is. The plane crashed in Somerset county which is a very rural area. It came down in a cornfield. Fortunately no one on the ground was hurt."}, {"response": 283, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (16:37)", "body": "Last night one network (I forget which) reported that they had \"found\" 10 policemen on the 2nd underground level...one of them had reached his wife via cel phone. Has anyone heard more about this? Is it confirmed? I could find nothing about it on any of the other networks."}, {"response": 284, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (17:03)", "body": "It was a hoax. Friday September 14 11:36 AM ET NY Mayor Asks Media for Accuracy By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer NEW YORK (AP) - Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (news - web sites) asked the news media to be more careful reporting about the World Trade Center rescue operation Friday, saying wrong information is raising false hopes and endangering workers. ``Some of it can be very dangerous and emotionally damaging,'' he said. He cited false reports that a potential survivor had been in contact with people by cell phone, and that 10 or 15 people were trapped alive in a store. Media outlets reported Thursday that five firefighters trapped since Tuesday had been rescued from the trade center rubble. It later turned out that only two who were trapped in an air pocket for several hours Thursday were found alive. Not only does false information play with the emotions of people with missing friends and relatives, it can send rescue workers on dangerous, fruitless chases, he said. He urged news organizations not to report such details until confirmed by police and FBI (news - web sites). ``If we could all be a little more patient and verify information before we put it out, we won't raise people's hopes unnecessarily,'' Giuliani said. CNN anchorwoman Paula Zahn, responding on the air to Giuliani's request, noted that it has been difficult to get accurate information out of the rescue site. ``We're all trying to heed this advice,'' she said. ``Unfortunately, everybody is being given conflicting information.'' ABC, CBS, NBC and the cable networks were into their fourth day of exclusive devotion to the story on Friday. News executives say they're keeping in mind television's role as a national gathering place in times of emergency. Network news chiefs uniformly expressed pride in how their profession has performed this week. ``There's really been a careful approach to the story that combines aggressiveness in getting information out with the awareness that we should not be speculating and we should not be alarming people,'' said CBS News President Andrew Heyward. NBC is being careful in its wording to not equate Islam with extremism even if some of the religion's believers masterminded the attack, network news President Neal Shapiro said. Until Giuliani announced Thursday that 4,763 people were missing at the World Trade Center, networks had generally been careful not to guess on the number of casualties. An exception: network reports that as many as 800 people died at the Pentagon; the estimate is now 190. There were also widely varying reports on the number of body bags brought to the World Trade Center site. News organizations also made different decisions when confronted with video depicting victims jumping from the World Trade Center to certain deaths; CBS showed it, ABC refused. ``It was not some sort of gratuitous, individual tragedy where we were exploiting someone's personal pain for some kind of sensational purpose,'' Heyward said. ``Quite the opposite. This was absolutely germane to the context of the story and vividly conveyed the sheer horror in a way that was journalistically appropriate.'' Offered the same video, ``without any hesitation we turned it down,'' said ABC News President David Westin. ``I don't believe that showing actual human beings leaping to their deaths was helpful.'' CNN showed images of things falling from the World Trade Center, but they weren't necessarily identifiable as humans, CNN Chairman Walter Isaacson said. NBC showed footage of a body falling once and decided not to anymore. The same was true at Fox News Channel. ``I don't think it's an easy call,'' NBC's Shapiro said. ``I don't condemn anybody who chose to run it.'' At least two networks were planning specials to help children cope. Peter Jennings will anchor a one-hour ABC special for youngsters Saturday morning, and Nickelodeon will present ``Nick News : Kids, Terrorism and the American Spirit'' with Linda Ellerbee on Sunday night. ---------------------------------------- If someone who knows how would delete my double post, I would be grateful. -- I think I hit reload and it sent all again - at least it shows on my computer."}, {"response": 285, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (17:07)", "body": ""}, {"response": 286, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (17:18)", "body": "Thanks, Suzee. (I only saw one copy of your post, by the way.)"}, {"response": 287, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (18:27)", "body": "we are skating on thin ice in this topic by venting our anger here. this will not help anyone. the afghani-american writer above makes sense, IMMHO. the Holy War is what these people want. and they sure as heck are trying hard to get it too. it's all around us, look at Israel, look at the Serbs, look at Ireland, for goodness sakes. this is ridiculous. ok, the service today was wonderful though i was a bit worried about all those people in the same place. tonight at 7, please light a candle!! and if you've flown a flag today, thank you so much. my sub-division either didn't have the flags or were too afraid to show them but to those who did, thank you very much!!"}, {"response": 288, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (20:00)", "body": "My candle is lit and sitting vigil at the base of my flagpole.. 7 PM was 1 PM here and it is broad day light. The candle will remain as long as it burns. The flag at half staff is coming down at sunset to rise then lower to half staff again tomorrow. Fighting amongst ourselves just plays into their hands. Come on world, we're better than that!!! Terry, MSNBC ran the Bin Ladin interview this afternoon again. You sure you want to see this man?"}, {"response": 289, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (20:04)", "body": "a new CNN article which explains how the Taliban are trying to defend Bin Laden and turn this into a religious war: http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/14/afghan.denial/ _Prepare for Holy War_ \"Now, the third empire of the world wants to impose an attack on us,\" [supreme Afghan leader Mullah Mohammed Omar] said. \"As you know better, it is not because of Osama [bin Laden]. This is the demonization of Islam.\" Well, this idiotic move does nothing more than confirm their role as a Bin Laden conspirator."}, {"response": 290, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (20:21)", "body": "... To insistent chants of \"U.S.A.! U.S.A.!\" from the crowds of workers, Mr. Bush took hold of a small bullhorn and climbed atop a small pile of rubble. He then shouted over a chorus of cheers that he wanted the rescuers to know that all America was deeply grateful for their efforts. \"This nation stands with the good people of New York City, and New Jersey and Connecticut, and we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens\" he said. To cries of \"George, we cant hear you!\" the President replied: \"I can hear you! I can hear you!\" \"The rest of the world hears you,\" he added. \"And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!\" ... more at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/14/national/15CND-BUSH.html"}, {"response": 291, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (20:36)", "body": "that was wonderful--the chanting and that he went straight in there...but because of the whole security issue where he is concerned, the operation slowed down. did anyone else get that impression? yes, terry, The Holy War between the west and islam."}, {"response": 292, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (20:44)", "body": "Please, just do not make a martyr of Osama Bin Ladin. I am pleased with how America is responding. Makes me all gritty determination mixed with misty patriotism. I will do without, I will do what is necessary. Just do it right! Go to website and see the pics in all 4 sections. Humbling, maddening, speechless... This should never have happened. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/attack/newyork/6.htm"}, {"response": 293, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (20:45)", "body": "that was wonderful--the chanting and that he went straight in there...but because of the whole security issue where he is concerned, the operation slowed down. did anyone else get that impression? yes, terry, The Holy War between the west and islam."}, {"response": 294, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (21:19)", "body": "No one's making a martyr of Bin Laden. He's dispicable. They keep saying he's worth $300 million. The Banks aren't very top notch in Afghanistan. Where's he keeping this money. We should find out and confiscate all his money. NBC is now reporting that a couple of guys with box cutters were arrested off an Amtrak train in San Antonio, the cops thought they were drug dealers because they had a lot of cash. Now they're thought to be major players in this terrorist network. It's been getting a lot of local attention, now it's starting to break nationally. US officials are in the Caymans investigating a letter warning about a major terrorist act against the US involving airlines. It was treated as \"merely speculation\" by the government (whose?, the Caymans?). Three men are being held in the Cayman Islands."}, {"response": 295, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (22:35)", "body": "This Cayman's connection sounds like that's where they might have a bank account. That should be investigated. the Holy War is what these people want. We are going back to the Crusades. There has been a major influx of Muslims all over Europe and in some cases such as Rome, they insist on having a mosque built. I would like to see in which Muslim country one can go live at and insist they build a Catholic church. It would never happen."}, {"response": 296, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (22:37)", "body": "Sebastian Mendler (smendler) Fri Sep 14 '01 (20:26) 83 lines Subject: groping towards a solution (fwd) Hi, friends -- Okay, let's see here... tell me if I am incorrect in any of the following points, or in the reasoning that I am trying to distill from them. 1. Unless I remember wrongly, the Japanese were seen during WWII much the same way as the Islamic Extremists are being seen now -- driven by religious fervor, unable to be reasoned with for that reason, not afraid to die for their cause. 2. This religious fervor was defused after the war by Hirohito shedding his divine status, and a constitutional monarchy being established in Japan. 3. The majority of Japanese had little or no problem making the transition. This probably had something to do with the fact that the most fervent believers in the old system were, well, dead. 4. The huge occupation force in Japan both respected many traditional Japanese institutions, and defanged the more troublesome ones. 5. At the same time, the Americans in that force brought back to the US awareness of many aspects of Japanese and Asian culture that had hitherto been little-known in the US. 6. They also brought along some wives. 7. The Afghani people are in dire straits indeed -- so dire, some say, that bombing them would be pointless, there's nothing worth bombing. The resulting weakness is one reason why the Taliban have not been tossed out on their turbans. 8. As the saying goes, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. 9. The point of the globalist movement -- which one assumes includes Bush, Powell, et al. -- is that Our Way of Life is the best one, so we need to get everybody involved in it. At least, that's sorta what they'll tell you if you ask. 10. The Japanese, rebuilt, became an economic powerhouse, and a key player in the world economy. It liked the results. The former militarist viewpoint, while still maintained by a few bitter conservatives, lost its former stranglehold on the soul of the nation. 11. So perhaps it makes more sense, not to try a purely military operation, but rather to try more of a *cultural* invasion. Think of the liberation of Pepperland from the Blue Meanies by the Beatles in _Yellow Submarine_. Restore color, light, and music to a dark, silent, depressed land. Wall-to-wall carpeting, not carpet bombings. PT Cruisers, not cruise missiles. Water, not napalm. Perfume, not tear gas. 12. Such an operation would still have its military aspects, and they would be huge. All the invading force of aid workers, fashion designers, educators, doctors, chefs, musicians, jugglers, car dealers, etc. would need to be protected while they did their jobs. Any attacking forces would be squelched, stomped, eradicated; but in the absence of attacks, life would get better and better for the folks that cooperated. This force would be much more like a police force than an army. (Sometimes, the best defense is to not be offensive.) 13. At the same time, we would not repeat the Soviets' mistake of trying to eradicate the fundamentalists. Chase them into the hills, and let them live their lives the way they want to. In fact, make sure they do; protect them from *all* outside influences, and protect the outside from theirs. Do not try to follow them into the mountains. 14. In this scenario, there would be plenty of opportunities for the more bloodthirsty among us to kick some righteous butt -- the beachheads (so to speak) will be tough to establish -- but these opportunities would ultimately be in the service of the healers. 14. At the same time, there are transformations to be effected within the Western world -- but maybe we should save that for another time... Am I on a promising track here? / /skip"}, {"response": 297, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (23:05)", "body": "Terry, Dear, you were not the one I thought might martyr this sick man and his followers. Unhappily we need give them no more reasons to hate Americans and want to kill them. His followers need little urging to create mayhem, it seems. *HUGS* (despicable is the nicest thing I have heard him called all week!)"}, {"response": 298, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (23:07)", "body": "Bin Laudin is an ex-Saudi. He just about holds the ruling house ther hostage for letting us land jets in Saudi Arabia during the gulf war. I am certain Swiss accounts are numerous, too."}, {"response": 299, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (23:14)", "body": "Oh Skip, if only it were that simple. We are discussing a belief system here not a political one. Too many serf in both instances. How long do you think the dress designers would last in a land and religion which hides their women and treats them as chattel (not to mention mutillation, so I won't mention it.) Our do-gooders would be deader then doornails as soon as they landed. This is an other world. They are not insular, this cell system of radical Islamists! They infiltrate every layer of society and in OUR country of dress desingers, and still loathe us enough to kill us in cold blood - civilians!!! Think some more... I'm listening!"}, {"response": 300, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (23:26)", "body": "Well seeing as Bin Laden is as good as he is, at keeping his movements and his intentions hidden, I doubt if hiding $300 million in a series of international bank accounts, would be all that hard for him. If it is stashed away in Swiss bank accounts, I'm not holding my breath that it can be found and confiscated any time soon. How long did it take for the Swiss banking authorities to finally cooperate, in tracking down loot stolen by the Nazi's....45, 50 years ?"}, {"response": 301, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (23:37)", "body": "The Japanese, rebuilt, became an economic powerhouse, and a key player in the world economy. This was the way that the Brigate Rosse terrorists in Italy where defeated as well. And did you know that Baywatch is the number 1 TV show in Iran? Unfortunately, the world has not acted on this before and now things have gone too far. Their Muslim radical power works on the poor because religion thrives in poor countries. The Jihad has started. I only pray that no atomic bombs will be used from either side."}, {"response": 302, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Sep 14, 2001 (23:38)", "body": "If it is stashed away in Swiss bank accounts, I'm not holding my breath that it can be found and confiscated any time soon. It is different now. There no longer is secrecy in Swiss banking."}, {"response": 303, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (00:26)", "body": "ROTFLMAO Moon.....Baywatch is the Number 1 rated program in Iran ? Are you serious ? Yikes, I bet the late Ayatollah Khomeni is just thrilled to bits, not to mention David Hasslehoff....LOL Thanks for that Moon, I needed a good laugh after this weeks trauma. By the way, what are #2 and #3 Three's Company and Charlie's Angels ?"}, {"response": 304, "author": "laughingsky", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (08:28)", "body": "I have never experienced such a massive show of patriotism as I have in the last few days. Last week, I admit that I would have passed many American flags with my thoughts absorbed in something else, never really and truly acknowledging the stars and stripes and for what that flag stands for. Somehow, in times past, the word \"patriotism\" has always rattled a little nerve in the \"government-is-out-to-get-us\" leftist side of me. Today, though, I am beginning to look at that flag and the word \"patriotism\" in a different light. Don't get me wrong - I'll still be looking over my shoulder, but, I am feeling a great sense of togetherness with this \"patriotism\" attitude. It is only saddening to realize what it has taken to get me to this place."}, {"response": 305, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (08:42)", "body": "http://pain.outloud.org/gary/thankyou/ These are photos from around the world of people stopping and praying, lighting candles, etc. big page but worth the wait time. There's a photo of Arafat giving blood. And this link is to a Yahoo! \"slide show\" of 20+ photos of newspaper front pages from around the world after the attack. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?p=news&g=events/ts/091201newspapers&e=1&tmpl=sl&nosum=0&large=0?tamp=1000366704\",610,580) ; This was an attack on the world trade center and it was an attack on the world, that building housed so many nationalities and religious types, I'd like to see a breakdown. BBC morning news reports that Pakistan is not going to allow an assault from bases in their country, we'll have to stage from India? Or Dushanbe? The Russians may be advising us on how to invade Afghanistan, do you see the irony in this? We're going to need a multi-faceting approach with not only air strikes but covert activity and ground troops. And at the same tiem we're going to have to bolster our homeland defense, unlike the Gulf War where there were only air strikes and no danger at home."}, {"response": 306, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (09:18)", "body": "Pakistan won't allow flights originating from their land but they'll most likely allow flyovers. The European community may offer some support but not likely overwhelming, though I'm comforted by Tony Blair's statements and actions, they've been courageous. Russia and India will be our staunchest allies. Need a million or so soldiers? India has 'em and would probably put them out on to the battlefield. An alliance with Russia will minimize China overnight. I just hope I'm wrong about lukewarm Euro participation. This is the first war of this century in a millenium that started out looking like it would belong to China and Asia. Now that balance may be changing and it will become the century of global, English speaking democracies lead by America, India, Canada, UK, Australia, and New Zealand. This may have the effect of changing the balance of power for a century to come. We're lost the symbol of our Western global economy, but in the processed it's galvanized the global English speaking democracies in a way we would never have done spontaneously. Think about this in your little cave, Osama. Think about a wealthy, technologically advanced, English speaking India ruling the region. Think about about a total global power change that will transform tragedy in to a brighter future for all mankind. India and Russia may need this kind of power boost from the US, they're struggling and they need to be galvanized and energized in the direction of becoming sane, technologically advanced democracies."}, {"response": 307, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:04)", "body": "\"English\" is not the tie that binds when it comes to India's involvement."}, {"response": 308, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:16)", "body": "Tha Russians did rather poorly in Afghanistan and I doubt that India would would be heavily involved. I would like to see what those tradionally \"leftist\" European countries do."}, {"response": 309, "author": "toyce", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:17)", "body": "As for the lukewarm European leaders' response, didn't they learn from the 1930's that appeasement did not change any outcome?"}, {"response": 310, "author": "toyce", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:18)", "body": "Karen is right. If India joins this, it will probably be for Hindu revenge against the Muslims."}, {"response": 311, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:51)", "body": "FBI Press Response September 14, 2001 Washington D.C. FBI National Press Office The following is a list of the nineteen (19) individuals who have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001, into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania. Information listed for each hijacker differs, but may include date of birth, address provided, or visa status. This is the extent of the information available at this time. The FBI requests that anyone who may have information about these individuals-even though they are presumed to be dead- to immediately contact an FBI filed office or call the toll-free hotline at 1-866-483-5137. American Airlines #77 Boeing 757 8:10 am departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles 9:39 am crashed into the Pentagon 1) Khalid Al-Midhar - Possible residence (s) : San Diego, California and New York, New York; Visa Status: B-1 Visa, but B-2 Visa had expired. 2) Majed Moqed - No information available. 3) Nawaq Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey and Wayne, New Jersey and San Diego, California. 4) Salem Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey, and Wayne, New Jersey. 5) Hani Hanjour - Possible residence (s) : Phoenix, Arizona and San Diego, California. Believed to be a pilot. American Airlines #11 Boeing 767 7:45 am departed Boston for Los Angeles 8:45 am crashed into North Tower of the World Trade Center 1) Satam Al Suqami - Date of birth used: June 28, 1976; Last known address: United Arab Emirates. 2) Waleed M. Alshehri - Dates of birth used: September 13, 1974/January 1, 1976/ March 3, 1976/ July 8, 1977/ December 20, 1978/ May 11, 1979/ November 5, 1979; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Orlando, Florida/ Daytona Beach, Florida; Believed to be a pilot. 3) Wail Alshehri - Date of birth used: July 31, 1973; Possible residence (s) 4) Mohamed Atta - Date of birth used: September 1, 1968; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Coral Springs, Florida/ Hamburg, Germany; Believed to be a pilot. 5) Abdulaziz Alomari - Date of birth used: December 24, 1972 and May 28, 1979; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Believed to be a pilot. United Airlines #175 Boeing 767 7:58 am departed Boston for Los Angeles 9:05 am crashed into South Tower of the World Trade Center 1) Marwan Al-Shehhi - Date of birth used: May 9, 1978; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Visa Status: B-2 Visa; Believed to be a pilot. 2) Fayez Ahmed - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 3) Ahmed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 4) Hamza Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 5) Mohald Alshehri - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. United Airlines #93 Boeing 757 8:01 am departed Newark, New Jersey, for San Francisco 10:10 am crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania 1) Saeed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 2) Ahmed Alhaznawi - Date of birth used: October 11, 1980; Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 3) Ahmed Alnami - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida. 4) Ziad Jarrahi - Believed to be a pilot. Topic 14 [attack]: Events of Sept 11, 2001 #54 of 65: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri Sep 14 '01 (21:26) 85 lines *Every Time I Hear \"A New Era for Humanity\" Announced, I Really Have to Wonder If It Can Last Even Six Months *8-/ Subject: Yann Moix: A New Era for Humanity Date: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:52 AM From: Patrice Riemens Reply-To: Patrice Riemens To: A New Era for Humanity by Yann Moix Liberation (Paris), September 14, 2001 original in French at http://www.liberation.com/ny2001/actu/20010914venze.html Bingo, folks! The World will never go at war again, and yet it will be at war always, period. War and non-war, there shall be no difference any more. From the 11th of September 2001, all will be war, even peace. Peace shall no longer be the opposite of war, but its context, its natural environment, its ecosystem, its scene, its background, its screen-saver. War and peace shall no longer be each others contraries (that was in the good old manichean East vs West times), but they shall be imbricated the one in the other, like the two connected faces of the same reality. Peace shall be a kind of specific sub-case of war. War shall henceforth be everywhere and nowhere. War shall be waged in the dustbins of the Paris railtermini, war shall be waged above our heads in the air of the metropolises. War shall be permanent. War shall be open for business 24/24, 7/7 , just like CNN. There shall be intermissions, but no reprieve. It shall be a war blind, yet precise, fuzzy, yet targeted. Because never before has the distortion been so stark between fuziness of the causes and the acuurateness of the strikes. The First HyperWorldWar has started. It is a war where all pretenses will fly, and where acts will be used as statements of purpose afterwards. Let's call this a hyperwar: a world where "}, {"response": 312, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:52)", "body": "The Tamil Tigers in India have caused thousands of deaths because of terrorist attacks. As you see this is truly a Holy War. Those \"leftist\" European Countries have lost their religion and have become homocentric. There is -0 population growth because young couples even if they bother to get married are not interested in having children. They prefer the material to the spiritual. It will be interesting to see what kind of allegiance those countries give the US."}, {"response": 313, "author": "toyce", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (10:57)", "body": "Just heard Netenyahu (sp?) on Fox. He made a good point. The reporter tried to make a comparison between the communists and the terriorists with regard to nuclear weapons. He said that was incorrect. He said the communists put their lives above their ideology. These people put their ideology above their lives."}, {"response": 314, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (11:13)", "body": "A chronology of strikes by Laden on US interests NEERAJ SAXENA TIMES OF INDIA NEWS NETWORK NEW DELHI: A glance at the chronology of terrorist attacks made on the US in the past one decade would indicate that the destiny of the US and its one- time bete noire Osama bin Laden have almost become inextricable. If the US is to be believed, almost all the attacks have been carried out or aided by bin Laden. However, the US has been harsh with its usual suspect just once. The missile attacks on his safe haven in Afghanistan and Sudanese factory was the only time when the US displayed its military might in retaliation. In 1996, former President Bill Clinton had even signed a secret order that authorised the CIA to use any and all means to destroy Laden's network, but the world's most powerful state has not been able to ensure this. In August, 1996, a secret grand jury investigation began against bin Laden in New York. He was quick to sign and issue a declaration of jihad on August 23 against the US and UAE, outlining his organisation's goals. CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS December 29, 1992: A bomb exploded in a hotel in Aden, Yemen, where the US troops had been staying while en route to a humanitarian mission in Somalia against guerilla leader Muhammed Aidid. The blast killed two Austrian tourists as the US soldiers had already left. RESPONSE: Two Yemeni Muslim militants, trained in Afghanistan and injured in the blast, arrested later. US intelligence agencies said this was the first terrorist attack involving bin Laden. February 26, 1993: A car bomb went off in the basement parking of the now fallen World Trade Centre, killing six people and injuring over 1,000. RESPONSE: Six accused, including the mastermind and confidante of Laden -- Ramzi Yousef -- sentenced to 240 years in prison for the bombing, for plotting to destroy WTC, the UN headquarters and to plant bombs on airliners flying out of the east coast. Ramzi was extradited from Pakistan and had close links with Laden according to the US. October 3, 1993: Eighteen US troops killed in a guerilla attack in Mogadishu, Somalia. American law enforcement, intelligence and national security officials are divided as to whether, as a Federal indictment charges, bin Laden and his associates trained and armed Somalia warlord Aidid's men. RESPONSE: Over 300 rebels claimed to have been killed by the US Rangers. April 19, 1995: A US government establishment in Oklahoma city bombed by an explosives laden truck parked in the car park of Alfred P Murrah building, killing 168 people, and wounding over 500. RESPONSE: Initially, the US suspected Osama bin Laden to be behind the bombing, but a 27-year-old misguided youth Timothy McVeigh was captured later, convicted and later executed. A key witness Terry Nichols sentenced for life. November 13, 1995: Five Americans and two Indians killed in the truck bombing of a US-operated Saudi National Guard training center in Riyadh. RESPONSE: The US accuses bin Laden. He denies involvement, but praises the attack. June 25, 1996: A large truck bomb devastates the US military residence in Dhahran called Khobar Towers, killing 19 servicemen. RESPONSE: The US military initially Laden had a hand in the attack, but now believes that a Saudi Shiite group was responsible. But US investigators still believe Bin Laden was somehow involved. August 7, 1998: US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania bombed by a suicide bomber, killing over 230 people and leaving over 4,500 injured. RESPONSE: US retaliates swiftly on August 20 by firing 70-80 `Tomahawk' Cruise missiles at alleged terrorist training camps in Khost, Afghanistan and the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, Sudan saying it was a chemical weapons factory. Several of Osama Bin Laden's alleged co- conspirators put behind bars in the US. October 12, 2000: A small dinghy laden with explosives rammed into US warship USS Cole in Aden Harbour, Yemen, killing 17 US sailors and injuring 39 others. RESPONSE: Besides blaming Laden, the US has not done much by the way of a retaliation so far."}, {"response": 315, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (11:19)", "body": "335 newspaper front pages -- 189 from the day after the attack and 146 extra editions published on the day of the hijackings. http://www.poynter.org/index.cfm"}, {"response": 316, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (12:06)", "body": "On the topic of bin Laden's money, Forbes has some info: http://www.forbes.com/2001/09/14/0914ladenmoney.html Highlights: Although bin Laden's been kicked out of Saudi Arabia and his citizenship revoked, much of his money is 'tied up in businesses' in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. He also has access to 'charitable foundations,' not named, that are 'unregulated and untaxed.' Following a description of the abject poverty of Afghanistan, it talks about how bin Laden and other expatriate Saudis live there and pay 'a lot of rent.' You can afford a private army for $35,000 a month as you don't have to pay people much. Money is transferred from country to country via an informal network called \"Hundi,\" basically just individuals transferring money among themselves. Very difficult to track."}, {"response": 317, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (14:07)", "body": "We could probably solve the airline hijack issue with the installation of an \"auto lander\" which could over ride the pilots and land the plane if it deviated off course and the pilots did not respond with a password or other test. The airline doors need to be strengthened and pilots shouldn't be able to open them during flight, and anyone on the passenger side of the door or doors (two or three makes more sense) would absolutely be unable to penetrate them. The problem is solvable. But there are so many other unsolved procedures we need to put in place for so many as yet undreamed of scenarios."}, {"response": 318, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (14:21)", "body": "From http://www.janes.com , a global security website, has issued a list of the places that are known to have involvement with Al-Qaeda, bin Laden's organization Algeria Egypt, Morocco Turkey Jordan Tajikistan Uzbekistan Syria Xinjiang in China Pakistan Bangladesh Malaysia Myanmar Indonesia Mindanao in the Philippines Lebanon Iraq Saudi Arabia Kuwait Bahrain Yemen, Libya Tunisia Bosnia Kosovo Chechnya Dagestan Kashmir Sudan, Somalia Kenya Tanzania Azerbaijan Eritrea Uganda Ethiopia The West Bank and Gaza."}, {"response": 319, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (15:32)", "body": "Correct me if I am under a misconception, but do we not worship the same GOD ultimately? How can they call it a Holy War and worship God? I have a copy of the Q'ran and it says nothing of the kind they are espousing. It is an excuse for greed and warped minds in which to find reason for their vengeance."}, {"response": 320, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (16:16)", "body": "it is just like anything else, cultish behavior brainwashing persons wishing to belong to anything. islam is a peaceful religion. i was told that the women wear the abayaah to protect themselves from being leered at by men. when they are home, the abayaah is removed. much like the latino community, arabians are family oriented and often house extended families. at no time did i feel like i was a piece of garbage while in Kuwait. the stares that i received were because i am different from what they are used to seeing. men and women of all walks live and work there. these people are just like us, have the same concerns as we do. i witnessed one father rewarding his child for a job well done at school. so please, do not assume that the arabian community is strange and should be feared. there are radicals in all communities, look at the guy in montana, he was american! look at the KKK, hello, people! sadly, there are scams out there to get your money all in the name of this tragedy. do not give to these telemarketers because there is no campaign to gain donations this way. something interesting: the taliban first mumbled that this was terrible, then pleaded that we do not bomb this poor country, then threatening surrounding neighbors that if they support the U.S., they will be attacked by holy warriors."}, {"response": 321, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (18:48)", "body": "but do we not worship the same GOD ultimately? You must go back to the Crusades, Marcia to get your answer. i was told that the women wear the abayaah to protect themselves from being leered at by men. Women are barely seen in the streets. They are second class citizens if at all. A western woman respectfully travelling in those countries (as I have found myslf on occassion), better not get the urge to go to the bathroom outside their hotel."}, {"response": 322, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (18:53)", "body": "The assassination of Massoud was no coincidence. It was most likely a signature attack by Bin Laden to eliminate Afghanistan's greatest anti-Taliban fighter. He was killed by explosives hidden in a belt or camera the day before the WTC attack. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/15/international/asia/15MASS.html http://frontierpost.com.pk/main.asp?id=8&date1=9/15/2001 I'm unclear if Pakistan will or will not allow us to use their country as a staging area. If someone hears about this will they post it here? GERMAN OFFICIALS have asked the FBI and the Securities and Exchange Commission to look into whether bin Laden\ufffds associates may have \ufffdsold short\ufffd stock in a Munich, Germany, company that holds secondary insurance on the World Trade Center. http://www.msnbc.com/news/629380.asp The stock market will open at 9:30 pm EST on Monday. Biggest losers: airline stocks Biggest winners: military, cellular, security, tech stocks Other big losers: insurance stocks, hotels Other winners: teleconferencing systems, construction companies, fractional aircraft. Ramzi Yusef, architect of first World Trade Center bombing, carried plans for airliner suicide crashes: http://www.worldtribune.com/wta/Archive-2001/me_terrorism_09_13.html"}, {"response": 323, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (18:54)", "body": "I slipped with Moon."}, {"response": 324, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (20:17)", "body": "in case there is any confusion, i was told by a kuwaiti man why the women wear an abaayah. yes, there are countries in which arabian women are treated as third-class citizens. but, it was witnessed by me, women were treated with respect, no walking 6-ft behind the man or anything. they drove, ran businesses, walked with their similarily clad men, wearing gold jewelry, etc. i can only relay what i saw in kuwait. these men wait until they are well into their 30's before marrying in order to prove that they are worthy of a wife, to care for her financially and whatever children they have. one arabian man said it clearly, the Koran (sp?) condemns behavior such as this. the muslim community needs to stand up to bin laden and use the word to show him as being wrong. several islamic people were interviewed and again reiterated that the Koran doesn't suggest anything of this nature. in fact, the Koran refers to all religions, christianity and judaism, not as being infidels, but as those included in the book, and infidels being those who do not believe at all (athiests). bin laden may see this as a holy war, but, it is not, because the religion he proclaims to be an interpretor of, would not allow this. again, it's based on perception. another thing i find interesting is that all the time, we are referred to as the devil, evil, etc. isn't that what we're doing? the deed was evil but we cannot condemn a whole peoples because of that. yes, i believe the guilty should and will pay. and so, i pray that the countries vowing support and our country do not do anything irrationally. that we think through whatever our actions may be. yes, we are angry, that is a step in grief, but let us take our time and move through this. anyway, who am i to say anything..... i think this discussion is healthy. *HUGS* to all!!!"}, {"response": 325, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (20:22)", "body": "oh yeah, this may be the least of their worries right now, but....has anyone started piling up the mass of paper that flew out of the WTC? i wonder if any of the accounts and such could be put back together with what was left of that? and, how come the paper didn't incinerate?"}, {"response": 326, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (21:34)", "body": "Totally changing the subject for a sec.....I saw on CNN yesterday that the major US airlines lost $300 million per day, when they were grounded for 3 days. I am puzzled by this. I can understand why they may lose money in future, from a drop off in bookings. But surely every person who booked a flight from Sep 11-13, would have paid for it in advance. Who here of us, goes some where with out having booked and paid for it weeks, if not months in advance ? So wouldn't the airlines have the money from all those grounded flights, already in the bank ? I can see where they would lose money from the refunds they gave some people. But news reports showed most people waiting the delay out and not getting refunds. So where did this $300 million loss come from ? Sorry if I sound mercenary and trivial. I am the daughter of an airline man, so I suppose curiosity about them, is in my blood."}, {"response": 327, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (22:11)", "body": "Hugs to both Wolfie and Moon. You are both right. I just talked to a close friend who is Lebanese Muslim. She says depending on your sect, the rules vary as does status in the community make for variations. You also don't show the soles of your feet and you do not eat with your right hand....they do not shake hands - you wipe off human waste with that hand... and on and on. We need no acrimony....we are dealing with people who do not even understand each other!"}, {"response": 328, "author": "LouiseJ", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (22:13)", "body": "The losses were not from this week's flights. The airlines have already received most of the money for this week's tickets. But they also sell tickets on a daily basis for next week, next month, next year, etc. Apparently they would have sold $300M worth of these tickets per day. Because of the crisis, they could not, because they did not know when, or if, they would be able to fly again. Even now that flights have resumed, they apparently anticipate a substantial reduction in the number of tickets sold, due to fear of flying, longer delays at airports due to security, etc. From now on, it's going to be an uphill battle to sell tickets to people who don't \"need\" to fly. This is why they expect to lose a lot of money. They still have the same number of planes to pay for, airport lease facilities to pay for, etc. So--the same fixed expenditures going out with much less in ticket sales coming in. The only \"flexible\" spending they have in the short run is employees, so they have to lay people off. And they were already hurting big time from the increase in fuel prices. Not many glimmers of hope for them."}, {"response": 329, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (22:26)", "body": "Kuwait is not Afghanistan. Kuwait does not have a fundamentalist theocracy. Afghani Muslims are not Arabs. Perhaps you're not aware of what the Taliban has done to women since taking over there. I believe I've heard that 60% of the airlines costs are fixed (paid out regardless of whether they fly or not). As you must be aware, the airlines don't make any money on those tickets to poor idiots like us, who get discounted fares. The full-fare tickets for business flyers subsidize the rest of us. *HUGS* to all!!!"}, {"response": 330, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (22:32)", "body": "Thanks Karen and yes, we are not dealing with an easy problem. I had one guy IM me today he was so angry he just tore up a remote highway at 100 mph (yeah, in the Cobra) We need to bond not feud and if we do not hug one another, we are doomed. \"Group Hug\" sounds so foolish but I think it is warranted. *HUGS TO ALL*, as Karen put it so well!"}, {"response": 331, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (23:19)", "body": "For those of you who hear of phophesies, please look at this page before leaping onto the pyre: http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/hoaxes/predict.htm"}, {"response": 332, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (23:40)", "body": "The full plan: 1. Destroy the World's Financial hub (succeeded beyond wildest dreams of terrorists) 2. Take out the military center of the US (very partial success) 3. Take out the President or Congress (failed) Good thing they only partially succeeded, if they had gone 3 for 3 we'd be in very, very serious trouble right now. This is not World War III, not yet anyway. This is about a band of criminals who are holding a decimated country in fear and trembling. The link for the Canada piece that Alice, my sister, sent me is http://www.rcc.ryerson.ca/schools/rta/ccf/personal/hof/sincla_g.html Gordon Sinclair wrote it, he died in 1984, the piece was written in '73 and was inspired by the criticism of America during the Vietnam era. I'll send this to my sister so she understands the context. It's in very wide circulation. From what I've read, I think the best approach would be to work cooperatively with the Afghan resistance and with India/Pakistan against the Taliban, one which allow a democratic state to emerge comprised of native Afghans."}, {"response": 333, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (23:40)", "body": "slippage again."}, {"response": 334, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Sat, Sep 15, 2001 (23:54)", "body": "Gee thanks CNN, the whereabouts of Britany Spears is foremost in my thoughts these days. CNN has a news ticker across the bottom of their screen and it is all really serious stuff...Bush speech extracts, Talaban declarations, death toll estimates, etc etc Then all of a sudden this appears....\" Pop Princess Britany Spears is stranded in Australia, due to the FAA ban on all international flights. She has cancelled all her European engagements at this time. \" I mean hello CNN.....who gives a rats a$$ ? By the way, what is this about a ban on incoming international flights ? It's the first I have heard of it ? Is it true, or did I read the ticker thingy wrong ? I guess I was just distracted by the plight of poor lil' Britany....LOL"}, {"response": 335, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (00:05)", "body": "1. Destroy world's financial hub ( suceeded beyond wildest dreams ) Did they really ? A lot of companies have ( in a purely logistical sense ) been put to a lot of expense and inconvenience. But has the world's financial hub really been destroyed ? Several buildings have gone down, but the infrastructure remains intact, bruised and bloody to be sure, but still intact. New York is one huge financial colossus, it is a many headed beast, with many, many tentacles. As devestating as the loss of the WTC is ( in human and monetary terms ). It is just one of these heads, the main body of the beast remains alive. ( Sorry, didn't mean to make that sound like something from a horror flick. ) As an example, the HQ of American Express were in Tower #1. They occupied 1 million sq ft of office space on many floors. However, they ( bless 'em ) took their butts across the river to temporary quarters in Jersey City. They now expect to be up and running ( at granted, very limited capacity, for now ) by Monday."}, {"response": 336, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (00:11)", "body": "It would have been more appropriate to say the world's financial *symbol* has been erased, we will remain strong as an economy. The 1-2-3 knockout would have been devastating had it succeeded, knocking out the White House would have pretty demoralizing on top of the World Trade. I'm glad those heroic passengers took action."}, {"response": 337, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (00:27)", "body": "Yup Terry, spot on....devestating doesn't even begin to describe what could have happened if they went 3 for 3 By the way, thanks so much for starting up this topic. It has been a much appreciated source of information, fellowship and goodwill since the horrors of Tuesday morning."}, {"response": 338, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (04:29)", "body": "Hi all Marcia, a question regarding a couple well known pieces of classical music? First of, does the military drum beat of Mars: Bringer of War mean anything significant at the moment?? Second \"I vow to thee my country\" is the chorus associated with Jupiter: Bringer of jollity. Patriotism is presumably alive and kicking at the moment in the United States and soldiers, sailors and airmen are thinking, \" I vow to thee my country\"?? Yes?? Finally, I listened to Sprach Zarathustra on Friday night, and wondered if the ominous opening bars mean anything with regards to the few terrifying seconds before the wayward jets that were aimed at the WTC, struck. Do you wonder?? Rob"}, {"response": 339, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (06:05)", "body": "Gerard Van der Leun (boswell) Sat Sep 15 '01 (23:18) 107 lines Patrick writess: > Boswell, from the bottom of my heart, please, log off and go and do something positive. Go and hug your daughter. Go and enroll in an anti- terrorism class. Go and make a speech on the corner. Go and pray. And I thank you for that advice. Actually, today, I did log off in the morning. Then I did something positive by attending the funeral of Father Michael Judge, the Chaplin of the New York Fire Department (I have made a pact with myself to attend as many of the 300 funerals of the NYFD members as I physically can). Father Judge, who had decades of service in the NYFD, was as you may know, killed in the collapse of the towers as he was giving the last rites to citizens killed in the attack as other firemen were going UP THE STAIRS. If anyone here thinks that I have terrible convictions about this and is shocked or dismayed at my hate and rage, they might spend some time in front of one of the many churches of New York in the coming weeks and look into the eyes of the police and firemen and everyday workers from Queens, the Bronx, Brooklyn or the other bouroughs and tell me then how much mercy they can see there. These are the men who are dealing with this now, and by and large these will be the type of men who will be fighting this war abroad and here on our land -- and there *will* be more of this here in our land -- in this city and in your cities -- and you or someone you know will be maimed or die from it. So start to understand what is happening now and what is going to happen when the truck with the explosives in it drives onto the Golden Gate Bridge and the driver of that truck tells the other truck at the foot of Mission that he's all set to light it up. Then you will be standing in front of a church (if you are lucky, as I was), and you will find yourself weeping as I did (and you will not be alone in this), and then you will understand what you do not understand now. And for this I weep for you. So the pipes played and this great and good man was carried away. And then, yes, I did go into the church and although I am not a religious man, I did pray. Then I walked to 14th street where my daughter works and I saw her and I did hug her. I shopped for some vegetables at the Green Market and walked into the crazy quilt memorials and peace and chanting maze that Union Square has become .. a kind of bizarre Princess Di Death Monument, overwhelmed in it's peace and love adornments with page after page and image after image of what we are now politely calling \"the missing\" -- as in 'most of these real people from many nations are now atomized. Then I came home to care for my dear and sick friend. Then, as she slept, I logged on here and saw what one always sees -- the sleepers and the dreamers and the few trying to make sense of things, and those who say \"if only we had done this,if only we had done that\"... Those who still cannot grasp that everything is, in the words of the poet, \"changed utterly. A terrible beauty is born.\" But none of this or anything else I may place here is really for anyone other than myself. This is my journal put out in the raw as I think it. I really don't have any other purpose than that. People can make of it it what they will. So, Patrick, that's what my day was like. Strangely it filled most of your requirements without even knowing what they would be. I even made a speech of sorts on the street. When the hearse bearing the body of Father Judge was passing down the street behind the flag and through two lines of pipers playing, I noticed that a goodly number of people lining the streets were just watching or, even more odious, taking photographs. I've never spoken out on the streets since Berkeley in the 60s, but quite to my surprise I found myself saying, I think, \"Citizens. A great man is passing. We do not take pictures. We salute him.\" And placing my right hand over my heart in a gesture I haven't used in well over 40 years, I did so. Some others did as well. Strange that we have forgotten how do do this, isn't it? Perhaps we should start to remember this and some other things as well."}, {"response": 340, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (08:14)", "body": "The American Red Cross in New York is calling for help from the IT community. \"The New York American Red Cross is in dire need of technology equipment and services,\" Joe Leo, assistant director of the American Red Cross in New York, told NewsBytes. \"The field workers and rescue sites have little, if any, means of communication, and the central office is processing way too much on completely paper systems. Any help in acquiring these resources would be greatly appreciated,\" he said. Leo highlighted an immediate need for Citrix server engineers and Microsoft- certified consultants to help with setting up systems that will aid the rescue process. Laptops, wireless networking cards, printers, CD burners and other equipment are also required. \"Essentially, anything you can give us, we can use,\" Leo said. Other IT requirements include the need to develop a single system for tracking missing people. A database is in the process of being complied containing pictures, dental records and descriptions of the missing. ... Joe Leo at the American Red Cross can be phoned at (212) 875-2409 or e- mailed at jleo@arcgny.org. Donations of equipment can be sent to his office: 150 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10023. Mr Leo asked that only those who want to volunteer contact him directly."}, {"response": 341, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (09:28)", "body": "you're correct, Karen, Kuwait is not Afghanistan, of that I am well aware. I am also aware that not all Muslim sects observe the same ideals or practices. My intention was not to make a broad statement about the treatment of Islamic women and I'm sorry if some of you read it that way. Generalizations are being made, stereotypes being set or reaffirmed. My point was that I personally witnessed a part of Islam that I was not aware of before my visit to Kuwait. Fine, Saudi, Afghanistan, Turkey, etc., have harsher views, that point is well known and well taken. My point was that an idea I had about this religion was changed."}, {"response": 342, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (09:28)", "body": "marcia, thank you for that website about predicition hoaxes!"}, {"response": 343, "author": "laughingsky", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (11:19)", "body": "I second that thanks to Marcia!"}, {"response": 344, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (12:08)", "body": "From an account of Congressional testimony given in 1998: Since taking power, the Taliban militia group, which now controls much of Afghanistan, has placed Afghan women under virtual house arrest. The Taliban has decreed that women and girls can no longer attend school; women are banned from employment; women are not allowed to leave their homes unless accompanied by a husband, father, brother, or son; women who do leave their homes have to be covered from head to toe in a \"burqa,\" with only a mesh opening to see and breath through; the windows of homes with women occupants are required to be painted opaque so the women inside cannot be seen; women are prohibited from being treated by male doctors; and women are banned from wearing white socks and shoes that make noise as they walk. \"Women are being beaten, shot at, and even killed for violating these draconian decrees -- for merely trying to go to work, leaving their homes alone, or violating the Taliban's extreme dress orders,\" stated Leno. Leno also shared a report from journalist Jan Goodwin that girls at the state orphanage in Kabul have not been allowed to leave the building to go outside since September of 1996 -- although the boys go outside every day to attend school and to play. \"The abuses of women and girls in Afghanistan have been justified in the name of religion and culture. However, the Taliban's decrees are foreign to the religion, the culture, and the people of Afghanistan,\" said Leno, who related that before the Taliban took control schools were co-educational, 70% of teachers were women, 40% of doctors were women, and Afghan women did not cover themselves with the burqa. For additional information the gender apartheid going on in Afghanistan: http://www.feminist.org/news/pr/pr030298.html http://www.cnn.com/2000/ASIANOW/central/07/13/afghan.women/ http://www.rawa.org/"}, {"response": 345, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (12:37)", "body": "It's incredible that you would have to post this information, Karen. I have known this for years and I thought it was common knowledge. :-( Please read this letter that was posted by someone who was on the first flight out of Logan Airport. You will understand the new security procedures. http://www.pemberley.com/bin/ramble/ramble.cgi?read=37767"}, {"response": 346, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (12:45)", "body": "I posted it for those who were unaware of the situation and did not realize what the Taliban has been doing."}, {"response": 347, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (15:24)", "body": "Thank you for posting that Karen. I knew that the women were forced to completely cover themselves, but I had no idea it was so horrible. I hope we can help them in some way through all of what is to come."}, {"response": 348, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (15:34)", "body": "I heard from one of the talking heads on Sunday monring tv that Afghanistan is 70% women, can someone confirm that?"}, {"response": 349, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (16:11)", "body": "MSNBC and CNN report that Pakistan has delivered an ultimatum to the Taliban: turn over Bin Laden within 72 hours or face military attack from Pakistan. From Pakistan . We've scared the hell out of them. Another article: http://www.charleston.net/pub/news/commentary/dillar0913.htm However, the '90s cutbacks in intelligence - in a time of growing complexity in the world - was a critical misstep that laid the groundwork for the failure to foresee the events of Sept. 11, 2001. These cuts have prevented our intelligence agencies from acting on complete information. Terrorist organizations, as well as those groups that would proliferate weapons of mass destruction, can only be effectively countered with a robust and well-funded human intelligence capability . . . I heard on MSNBC that El Al has been sealing off the cockpits of their planes for the last 25 years."}, {"response": 350, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (16:26)", "body": "A whole lot of intelligence information on Afghanistan comes from the CIA Factbook, I've compiled in this web location: http://www.spring.net/afghan We may be developing a special section of the Spring to deal with the coming world conflict and we may even add a conference on this or expand more topics in the news conference. Here is a proposed topic list: 1 coping with the crisis 2 the attack 3 what can we do? 4 where were you when you heard? 5 racism 6 information on the net 7 hindsight 8 what will change? 9 world response 10 local impact where you are 11 economic impact 12 President Bush 13 travel in the post attack world 14 Osama Bin Laden 15 What will become of Civil Liberty? 16 media coverage 17 thinking like the enemy, what next? We can either add these to news, all or some of them, or we can create a new conference called? attack? terror? I think we already have a conference called InternationalConflict or something like that, it never got used much."}, {"response": 351, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (16:28)", "body": "SJ Mercury news has some numbers on the international casualty toll at WTC... 100 Britons confirmed dead, final toll expected to be higher 250 Indians feared killed, injured and missing a dozen Mexican nationals, of over 100 citizens working at WTC 100 Russians missing 50 Bangladeshi confirmed dead, more missing 8 Australians confirmed dead, 80 others missing 100 Japanese unaccounted for other nationals believed lost include Canadians, S. Koreans, Zimbabweans, Taiwanese, Italians, colombians and Filipinos, but no numbers reported. The number that worries me are the 250 Indian nationals, given Pakistan's ties to the Taliban, not to mention the Indian/Pakistani conflicts over, say, Kashmir, or their nuclear arms race."}, {"response": 352, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (16:29)", "body": "Here are the \"official\" figures: International casualties in the \"attack on america\" (preliminary official figures): Argentina: 2 missing Australia: 9 confirmed dead, 85 missing Bangladesh: 50 confirmed, more missing Belgium: 60 missing Brazil: 5 missing Canada: 2 confirmed, 100 missing (est) Chile: 1 missing China: 4 confirmed, 30 missing Colombia: 6 confirmed, 116 missing Denmark: 15 missing Dominican Republic: 3 missing Egypt: 1 confirmed, 3 missing El Salvador: 1 confirmed, 18 missing Finland: 41 missing France: 81 missing Germany: 4 confirmed, 700 missing Great Britain: 100 confirmed, 400 missing (est) India: 250 missing Indonesia: 1 confirmed, 1 missing Ireland: 4 confirmed Israel: 1 confirmed, 150 missing Italy: 8 missing Japan: 2 confirmed, 100 missing Lebanon: 1 confirmed, 2 missing Malaysia: 7 missing Mexico: 150-500 missing (est) Norway: 15 missing Pakistan: 3 confirmed, more missing Paraguay: 2 missing Peru: 5 missing Philippines: 7 missing Portugal: 3 confirmed, 20 missing Puerto Rico: 1 missing South Africa: 1 confirmed, 2 missing South Korea: 1 confirmed, 27 missing Spain: 9 missing Sweden: 1 missing Switzerland: 4 confirmed, 10 missing Taiwan: 9 missing Zimbabwe: 6 missing (data collected from newspapers and government websites. ) http://hem.passagen.se/eff/2001_09_01_bot-archive.htm That's nearly 3,000 people from 40 nations confirmed dead or unaccounted for."}, {"response": 353, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (16:35)", "body": "An invaluable resource: http://www.sabawoon.com/afghanpedia/Afghanistan.shtm"}, {"response": 354, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (17:08)", "body": "And here's a list of many web sites about Afghanistan: http://www.abyznewslinks.com/afgha.htm"}, {"response": 355, "author": "laughingsky", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (17:22)", "body": "Open letter from Saddam Hussein to the American peoples and the western peoples and their governments. http://www.uruklink.net/iraqnews/enews8.htm"}, {"response": 356, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (18:46)", "body": "As this excerpt from a New Yorker article from a while back shows, we have to be careful in how we conduct air strikes against terrorist camps in Afghanistan and other places. These camps are undoubtedly dispersing physically and forming virtually in cyberspace as we speak. \" http://www.newyorker.com/PRINTABLE/?FROM_THE_ARCHIVE/010917fr_archive07 The American war against bin Laden has affected United States policy throughout much of the Islamic world, particularly in South Asia and the Middle East. Memorably, on August 20, 1998, the Pakistani Army's chief of staff, General Jehangir Karamat, was playing host in Islamabad to his American counterpart, General Joseph Ralston, the vice-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Around ten o'clock in the evening, as the two men were having dinner, Ralston looked up from his chicken tikka, checked his watch, and informed his host that in ten minutes some sixty Tomahawk cruise missiles would be entering Pakistan's airspace. Their destination, he said, was Afghanistan, where bin Laden was believed to be operating four training camps. General Karamat was stunned, and appalled. \"It was a 'This is happening as we speak' kind of conversation,\" an American intelligence official told me. \"Ralston was there, on the ground, to make absolutely certain that when the missiles flew across Pakistan's radar screen they would not be misconstrued as coming from India and, as a consequence, be shot down.\" The intelligence official paused for a moment, and then said, \"This is one hell of a way to treat our friends.\" By the following day, General Karamat's anger\ufffdand that of the government he served\ufffdhad turned to rage. A number of the Tomahawks either had been poorly targeted or had not fallen where they were aimed. Two of the four training camps that were hit and destroyed, in the Zhawar Kili area of Afghanistan's Paktia province, were facilities of Pakistan's own intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence, or I.S.I. According to a highly placed official, five I.S.I. officers and some twenty trainees were killed. The government of Pakistan was not only furious but embarrassed, because it had not been taken into Washington's confidence. Why had there been only ten minutes' notice? And why had General Karamat been notified, instead of the Prime Minister? Pakistan wasn't our only affronted ally. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and the Palestinian Authority\ufffdindeed, much of the Islamic world\ufffdexpressed dismay. The United States had reason to be embarrassed as well. For, despite President Clinton's claim, in a televised address a few hours after the missile strikes, that a \"gathering of key terrorist leaders\" had been expected to take place at one of the target sites, bin Laden and his top lieutenants were more than a hundred miles away when the missiles struck. The meeting that Clinton referred to had occurred a month earlier, in Jalalabad."}, {"response": 357, "author": "Echo", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (19:25)", "body": "I have just returned home (to the UK) from a short trip abroad during which I had no access to the Internet, therefore wish to take this opportunity to register my deepest sympathy and untold horror and revulsion at the recent events in America."}, {"response": 358, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (19:36)", "body": "I thought this map might be valuable to those of you who are having trouble figuring out the geography of all of this \"flyover\" \"staging area\" stuff. I find the tiny shared border with China to be rather interesting. I wasn't aware of that. http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/sw_asia_pol00.jpg The story JoAnn refers to says that Cheney and others in the Pentagon weren't notified of the hijacking until 35 minutes after the air traffic controllers had contacted the military, and well after U.S. jet fighters were in the air. Unforuntately, the fighters were dispatched from a base 130 miles away, rather than Andrews, 15 miles away Subject: [archivists] Attack Archive: Please suggest sites Date: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:48 AM From: Brewster Kahle To: Cc: Please help build a Web Archive of the Sept 11 Attack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Internet Archive in collaboration with Alexa Internet, and SUNY, Library of Congress and UWashington is archiving pages and sites relating to the terrorist attacks in the NY and DC. Where we are archiving sites and pages all the time, we are concentrating the crawlers to make sure there is a solid historical record of this time. If you would like to help, we can build a better archive. Here is how you can help: Suggest sites and pages to archive: * This can be done by sending URL's to attackarchive@alexa.com (this is a list of the crawl engineers at Alexa and the researchers at SUNY and UW) * Surf with the free Alexa Toolbar on. Every night new sites and pages are discovered by processing the day's usage logs from the Alexa Toolbar. These are sanitized to eliminate cgi and other URL's that might contain personal information and then those sites are crawled for the archive. Help build a page in mid-October that will help guide people through relevant materials. This could be similar to the Election 2000 webpage (http://archive.alexa.com), or something else completely. We would like to make this public at the end of October or early November. Datamine the web archive to find past pages and sites that might be relevant. This takes programming skill and will be more difficult for Alexa to support, but if you are interested, please write a proposal in the web section of the www.archive.org site. Thank you. Please repost, but don't spam. -brewster Director, Internet A \"In 2000, catastrophes claimed more than 17,400 lives and caused overall financial losses - not counting indirect economic damage - of almost USD 50 billion. According to Swiss Re's definitive statistics, the burden on the insurance industry was comparatively low at USD 10.6 billion.\" Note that this is world-wide. For more details, go to http://www.swissre.com/, then go to research&Publications, and click on the pull-down item \"sigma insurance research\". On that page, the item Catastrophe losses in 2000 (under \"latest sigma\") will bring you to the data. How does it compare to the damage from the last big earthquake in Japan. For Kobe: \"Current estimates of the repair costs in this earthquake have been reported in the range of U.S.$95 billion to U.S.$147 billion\" Source: http://www.eqe.com/publications/kobe/economic.htm Dateline's report on the phone call from Jeremy Glick to his wife from Flight 93 was extraordinarily well-done. The call lasted for 20 minutes, and followed Mr. Glick's revelation of what was actually happening, and what he had to do. He used his butter knife from breakfast as a weapon. Here's the story: http://www.msnbc.com/news/629077.asp"}, {"response": 359, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:11)", "body": "May we please keep to topic here and not to views of Islam. That is covered in Cultures in a topic all its own. I think it belongs there and not here where we discuss our national tragedy and honor those who have risked their lives in order to save others. Please! Let us not disintegrate into other divergences."}, {"response": 360, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:21)", "body": "this was forwarded to me: Following is an article from the Miami Herald. R/Scott Published Wednesday, September 12, 2001 The Miami Herald Leonard Pitts We'll go forward from this moment. It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering. You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard. What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed. Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together. Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God. Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals. IN PAIN. Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice. I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the future. In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can be done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably determined. THE STEEL IN US. You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we cherish. So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's the case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange: You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You don't know what you just started. But you're about to learn."}, {"response": 361, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:23)", "body": "(sorry for the length) does anyone know the amount of rubble pulled out so far? (last i heard was 20,000 tons, just 2% of the estimated total)"}, {"response": 362, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:23)", "body": "Terry, I think it might be appropriate to open another topic about all of this... perhaps \"post 9-11-01\" or something like that...I'm not sure what to call it; \"new world\" or something like that sounds too trivial. But I think that there are so many issues that will stem from last tuesday's events, that they should all be housed under one topic. I am using the right phrase here, right? topic would be the larger theme, and then boards are under topics, correct?"}, {"response": 363, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:24)", "body": "thank you marcia!"}, {"response": 364, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:30)", "body": "thanks for posting that, Wolf. That is a great article!"}, {"response": 365, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:35)", "body": "Great article, indeed. I am looking for the Wall Street Journal's Friday editorial. It came highly recommended to me. I heard 22,000 tons of out of something like 460,000 tons!!!"}, {"response": 366, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (20:40)", "body": "Here is the lastes results of an AOL survey. Should the World Trade Center towers be rebuilt? Yes 609742 59% No 224927 22% It's too soon to decide 187317 18% Total votes: 1021986 And here is an article that expresses my thoughts: \"Make it green \" September 14, 2001 BY ROGER EBERT If there is to be a memorial, let it not be of stone and steel. Fly no flag above it, for it is not the possession of a nation but a sorrow shared with the world. Let it be a green field, with trees and flowers. Let there be paths that wind through the shade. Put out park benches where old people can sun in the summertime, and a pond where children can skate in the winter. Beneath this field will lie entombed forever some of the victims of September 11. It is not where they thought to end their lives. Like the sailors of the battleship Arizona, they rest where they fell. Let this field stretch from one end of the destruction to the other. Let this open space among the towers mark the emptiness in our hearts. But do not make it a sad place. Give it no name. Let people think of it as the green field. Every living thing that is planted there will show faith in the future. Let students take a corner of the field and plant a crop there. Perhaps corn, our native grain. Let the harvest be shared all over the world, with friends and enemies, because that is the teaching of our religions, and we must show that we practice them. Let the harvest show that life prevails over death, and let the gifts show that we love our neighbors. Do not build again on this place. No building can stand there. No building, no statue, no column, no arch, no symbol, no name, no date, no statement. Just the comfort of the earth we share, to remind us that we share it. Copyright \ufffd Chicago Sun-Times Inc."}, {"response": 367, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (21:36)", "body": ""}, {"response": 368, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (22:28)", "body": "I've heard that the Wakhan Corridor is pretty much deep in the Hindu Kush mountains, and isn't of much tactical value unless you're a terrorist looking for a hideout."}, {"response": 369, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (22:40)", "body": "Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:38:28 -0700 From: Lena M. Diethelm lendie@rawbw.com Subject: Fwd: Real Justice Rabbi Michael Lerner, Editor TIKKUN Magazine | 09.12.2001 There is never any justification for acts of terror against innocent civilians-it is the quintessential act of dehumanization and not recognizing the sanctity of others, and a visible symbol of a world increasingly irrational and out of control. It's understandable why many of us, after grieving and consoling the mourners, will feel anger-and while some demagogues in Congress have already sought to manipulate that feeling into a growing militarism (more spies, legalize assassinations of foreign leaders, increase the defense budget at the expense of domestic programs), the more \"responsible\" leaders are seeking to narrow America's response to targeted attacks on countries that allegedly harbor the terrorists. But though the perpetrators deserve to be punished, in some ways this narrow focus allows us to avoid dealing with the underlying issues. When violence becomes so prevalent throughout the planet, it's too easy to simply talk of \"deranged minds.\" We need to ask ourselves, \"What is it in the way that we are living, organizing our societies, and treating each other that makes violence seem plausible to so many people?\" We in the spiritual world will see this as a growing global incapacity to recognize the spirit of God in each other-what we call the sanctity of each human being. But even if you reject religious language, you can see that the willingness of people to hurt each other to advance their own interests has become a global problem, and it's only the dramatic level of this particular attack which distinguishes it from the violence and insensitivity to each other that is part of our daily lives. We may tell ourselves that the current violence has \"nothing to do\" with the way that we've learned to close our ears when told that one out of every three people on this planet does not have enough food, and that one billion are literally starving. We may reassure ourselves that the hoarding of the world's resources by the richest society in world history, and our frantic attempts to accelerate globalization with its attendant inequalities of wealth, has nothing to do with the resentment that others feel toward us. We may tell ourselves that the suffering of refugees and the oppressed have nothing to do with us-that that's a different story that is going on somewhere else. But we live in one world, increasingly interconnected with everyone, and the forces that lead people to feel outrage, anger, and desperation eventually impact on our own daily lives. The same inability to feel the pain of others is the pathology that shapes the minds of these terrorists. Raise children in circumstances where no one is there to take care of them, or where they must live by begging or selling their bodies in prostitution, put them in refugee camps and tell them that that they have \"no right of return\" to their homes, treat them as though they are less valuable and deserving of respect because they are part of some despised national or ethnic group, surround them with a media that extols the rich and makes everyone who is not economically successful and physically trim and conventionally \"beautiful\" feel bad about themselves, offer them jobs whose sole goal is to enrich the \"bottom line\" of someone else, and teach them that \"looking out for number one\" is the only thing anyone \"really\" cares about and that anyone who believes in love and social justice are merely naive idealists who are destined to always remain powerless, and you will produce a world-wide population of people feeling depressed, angry, unable to care about others, and in various ways dysfunctional. Luckily most people don't act out in violent ways-they tend to act out more against themselves, drowning themselves in alcohol or drugs or personal despair. Others turn toward fundamentalist religions or ultra-nationalist extremism. Still others find themselves acting out against people that they love, acting angry or hurtful toward children or relationship partners. Most Americans will feel puzzled by any reference to this \"larger picture.\" It seems baffling to imagine that somehow we are part of a world system which is slowly destroying the life support system of the planet, and quickly transferring the wealth of the world into our own pockets. We don't feel personally responsible when an American corporation runs a sweat shop in the Phillipines or crushes efforts of workers to organize in Singapore. We don't see ourselves implicated when the U.S. refuses to consider the plight of Palestinian refugees or uses the excuse of fighting drugs to support repression in Colombia or other parts of Central America. We don't even see the symbolism when terrorists attack America's military center and our trade center-we talk of them as buildings, though others see them as centers of the forces that are causing the"}, {"response": 370, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (22:43)", "body": "More on the shared border. The only reason it's Afghanistan is that there was obviously a concerted effort to prevent a common border between India and Russia back in the 1800s. This is the very most farthest extension of ecotourism: http://www.concordiaexpeditions.com/tartary_trip.html This trek takes us to Northern Chitral and runs on the edge of the famous Wakhan Corridor. The corridor was deliberately made as a buffer zone to curtail the advancing Russian influence into British India during the 18th century. Here many spies were sent on both sides who mingled with the local populace as if they were natives. This is the place of the Great Game which was played between the Russian 'Bear,' the English 'Lion,' and the Chinese 'Dragon.' The three empires jockeyed for land, position and influence for the strategic heart of Central Asia."}, {"response": 371, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Sun, Sep 16, 2001 (23:41)", "body": "Hey ya'll. I was just talking to my sister in Seattle, a litle while ago. I was telling her about me and my buddy going shopping for supplies for the rescue workers in NY ( saline solution, bottled water, work boots, mens underwear etc etc ) She has heard about none of this, except for the Red Cross blood drive. Do any of you know of any websites that I can tell her about, that give out info on what supplies are still needed ? I tried the Red Cross website, but didn't get much info. Here in Atlanta, massive semi rigs are parked in many of our supermarkets. People are coming and filling them up with supplies, that will be then driven to NY when they are full. I guess not much of this is being done on the West Coast, coz it is a weeks drive from NY."}, {"response": 372, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (01:42)", "body": "Hi all Msg 352 - Terry: Here are the \"official figures Rob: Some bad news. New Zealand can be added to the list as 1 New Zealander is confirmed dead and at least a dozen are missing. *weeps* Initially more than 200 New Zealanders were in the area, but I do not know how many have been accounted for - except that there is definitely at least one body. Rob"}, {"response": 373, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (07:22)", "body": "I have been looking for an article that expresses the European point of view and this is it. It is secular as can be expected. For the arrogance of power, America now pays a terrible price By JONATHAN POWER September 12, 2001 LONDON - The American nation appears not only immensely distressed and angry about the bombings but surprised too. It cannot understand why anyone should be moved by such hatred against it and, inured from the rest of us by the isolationism of most of its political representatives and its media, it has little idea of the currents swirling against it. An event of this magnitude was not only unimagined, it was unimaginable. Yet long before George Bush became president with his forceful in-your-face, take-it-or-leave-it attitude to the world outside on issues as diverse as global warming and anti-missile defences, America has been turning in on itself, to the point of self-destructiveness. William Pfaff, the astute American commentator, wrote recently that \"America is a dangerous nation while remaining a righteous one\" and America's pre-eminent foreign policy observer, George Kennan, ambassador to the Soviet Union during Stalin's time, wrote quite a few years ago, \"I do not think that the United States civilization of these last 40-50 years is a successful civilization. I think this country is destined to succumb to failures which cannot be other than tragic and enormous in their scope.\" And later added that for Americans \"to see ourselves as the centre of political enlightenment and teachers to a great part of the rest of the world [is] unthought-through, vainglorious and undesirable.\" It would be misunderstanding human nature to believe that most Americans want to hear such thoughts played back to them on their day of grief, victims of an evil deed that compares with the worst of the blood-stained twentieth century. Yet they have to know that action produces reaction and not for nothing is anti-American resentment on the increase all over the world, not least in Europe where there is some astonishment at the way the new American administration has ploughed ahead with its self-interested agenda as if no one else has a legitimate opinion or could perhaps view the same situation in a different light. Foreign observers do not miss the reports that come out of Pentagon think tanks of America's need to use this special moment after the defeat of European communism and the break up of the Soviet Union to make sure that America is militarily superior the world over, and that no one, not even its closest allies, should be in a position to tell it what to do. The U.S. began the new millennium as the most heavily militarised nation on earth. It is the U.S., which poses the military threat to others. At the outbreak of the Second World War the U.S. army was only 174,000 men. Today it has 1.4 million in its \"standing army\" and a ready reserve and National Guard numbering 2.5 million. Despite the end of the Cold War, under President Bill Clinton the U.S. made only a paltry effort to wind down the nuclear arsenals of the superpowers, and instead provocatively insisted on expanding Nato close to Russia's borders. The Bush administration with its declared ambition to abandon the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, solemnly signed by Richard Nixon and Leonid Brezhnev, seems unconcerned that this will set in motion events that will unwind hard won international norms on ending nuclear testing and on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, even hinting that it will understand if China has to increase its nuclear forces or test new nuclear weapons. I have talked to a range of ordinary Europeans in the last 24 hours and they all say, in the face of the earnest shoulder-to-shoulder rhetoric of their leaders, that America has got itself into this hole by its own disregard for what others think. The first law of holes, of course, is to stop digging - which, of course, is what Washington should firmly have told Israel six presidents ago when it started its foolish and counterproductive policy of building settlements on what everyone knew was Palestinian land. Amazingly, the policy continues with apparent understanding from the Bush administration. While Arab governments ring their hands, and young Palestinians fight one of the best trained armies in the world with stones, there are the inevitable few attached to the Palestinian cause who are moved towards serious violence - the suicide bombers and, we don't know yet, although it is the most likely explanation, the destroyers of the World Trade Centre. In every political movement - whether it be the Palestinians or the globalisation protestors in Genoa there are fringe elements that advocate violence. This does not mean the mainstream of that movement is wrong. It might or might not be. But, right or wrong, there will always be powerful elements of truth contained within it, or the passions and purpose would never be ignited. To meet it eye for eye and tooth for too"}, {"response": 374, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (08:32)", "body": "The UK Guardian is reporting that bin Laden has abandoned his main base near Kandahar and has moved to an undisclosed place in the mountains. His four wives and numerous children are with him. What if the Pakistanis persuade the Taliban regime to hand him over? Will be martyrized? The UK Guardian coverage on this is at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,553156,00.html"}, {"response": 375, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (08:38)", "body": "From: Patrice Riemens Reply-To: Patrice Riemens To: A New Era for Humanity by Yann Moix Liberation (Paris), September 14, 2001 original in French at http://www.liberation.com/ny2001/actu/20010914venze.html Bingo, folks! The World will never go at war again, and yet it will be at war always, period. War and non-war, there shall be no difference any more. From the 11th of September 2001, all will be war, even peace. Peace shall no longer be the opposite of war, but its context, its natural environment, its ecosystem, its scene, its background, its screen-saver. War and peace shall no longer be each others contraries (that was in the good old manichean East vs West times), but they shall be imbricated the one in the other, like the two connected faces of the same reality. Peace shall be a kind of specific sub-case of war. War shall henceforth be everywhere and nowhere. War shall be waged in the dustbins of the Paris railtermini, war shall be waged above our heads in the air of the metropolises. War shall be permanent. War shall be open for business 24/24, 7/7 , just like CNN. There shall be intermissions, but no reprieve. It shall be a war blind, yet precise, fuzzy, yet targeted. Because never before has the distortion been so stark between fuziness of the causes and the acuurateness of the strikes . The First HyperWorldWar has started. It is a war where all pretenses will fly, and where acts will be used as statements of purpose afterwards. Let's call this a hyperwar: a world where the ordinary, natural context of societies is no longer peace, but war. A hyperwar is not a classic world war with opposite fighting sides. It is a 'non-Euclydian', non-catalogised war, without rules and principles others than its own logic. Hyperwar cannot be localised in space. Nor in time. It is a kind of magnum opus of terrorism,its _best of_ or rather its _worst of_: plane hijacks, crashes, bombs, kamikaze operations. In fact it was the 20th century as a whole that was fast-forwarded in just a couple of minutes on the 11th of September, 2001. And that will be the birth certificate of the 21st Century, like (the 31st of July) 1914 was it for the 20th. But it are no longer states which are waging war, but wars that are making states. But then, unheard of sort of states: non-nation-states, states without teritorry, without citizens or borders, without (elected) governements, nay, these are virtual states, scattered war-states, fuzzy, networked octopus-states, community-states whose only borders are ideological. These states, just like virusses, evolve, adjust, mutate, invent and reinvent themselves everyday. Sometimes, their size is reduced to that of a lone individual who is an ideology, an army, a clear and present danger all unto himself. And a walking bomb. After the era of the statesmen comes the era of the state-men. The political state has become undistinguishable from the biological state. Over these past days, we have been bombarded with the metaphor of Pearl Harbour: nothing could be further from the truth. Pearl Harbour was an episode within a war. The 11th of september was the definition of an other type of war, the starting point for a new era in human history. The human element is now being affected all over the planet, since hyperwars feeds itself on the psychoses it creates by the permanent menace it exerts on all. Psychosis has become the continuation of war by other means. It gnaws at the individual, it eats up her/his mind, it shatters her/his rational structure. It is a war on the 'may be/ may be not' mode, whereby the horror is mainly a potential one. And thus, it is a war that may have a beginning, but no end. Hyperwar is built for the long run. It thrives in totality, that of the universe and of eternity. (Halelujah! - tr -) (Q&D translation by yours truly) Reposted without permission whatsoever # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and \"info nettime-l\" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net"}, {"response": 376, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (08:40)", "body": "A good Robert Scheer op-ed on the \"unleash the CIA\" blather can be found in today's LA Times at: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-091701scheer.column an editorial today in the LA Times raises another question about unsavory allies: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-000074763sep17.story?coll=la%2Dnews%2Dcomment%2Deditorials"}, {"response": 377, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (08:44)", "body": "From: William Meyers To: , , , , Date: 9/15/01 3:12PM Subject: after the hit Dear Everyone, Here's an important document issued yesterday that we should all keep in mind: Human Rights Watch Response to Attacks on the U.S. Civilian Life Must Be Respected (New York, September 12, 2001) -- We profoundly condemn yesterday's cruel attacks in the United States and express our condolences to the victims and their loved ones. This was an assault not merely on one nation or one people, but on principles of respect for civilian life cherished by all people. We urge all governments to unite to investigate this crime, to prevent its recurrence, and to bring to justice those who are responsible. Last night, President Bush said that the United States \"will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbored them.\" Yet distinctions must be made: between the guilty and the innocent; between the perpetrators and the civilians who may surround them; between those who commit atrocities and those who may simply share their religious beliefs, ethnicity or national origin. People committed to justice and law and human rights must never descend to the level of the perpetrators of such acts. That is the most important distinction of all. There are people and governments in the world who believe that in the struggle against terrorism, ends always justify means. But that is also the logic of terrorism. Whatever the response to this outrage, it must not validate that logic. Rather, it must uphold the principles that came under attack yesterday, respecting innocent life and international law. That is the way to deny the perpetrators of this crime their ultimate victory. And here's the letter from HHDL to GWB that got released to the public yesterday: 1. The Dalai Lama's letter to the President of the United States of America --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your Excellency, I am deeply shocked by the terrorist attacks that took place involving four apparently hijacked aircrafts and the immense devastation these caused. It is a terrible tragedy that so many innocent lives have been lost and it seems unbelievable that anyone would choose to target the World Trade Center in New York City and the Pentagon in Washington D.C. We are deeply saddened. On behalf of the Tibetan people I would like to convey our deepest condolence and solidarity with the American people during this painful time. Our prayers go out to the many who have lost their lives, those who have been injured and the many more who have been traumatized by this senseless act of violence. I am attending a special prayer for the United States and it's people at our main temple today. I am confident that the United States as a great and powerful nation will be able to overcome this present tragedy. The American people have shown their resilience, courage and determination when faced with such difficult and sad situation. It may seem presumptuous on my part, but I personally believe we need to think seriously whether a violent action is the right thing to do and in the greater interest of the nation and people in the long run. I believe violence will only increase the cycle of violence. But how do we deal with hatred and anger, which are often the root causes of such senseless violence? This is a very difficult question, especially when it concerns a nation and we have certain fixed conceptions of how to deal with such attacks. I am sure that you will make the right decision. With my prayers and good wishes The Dalai Lama September 12, 2001 Dharamsala, India And, for contrast, here's a little excerpt from today's Times about what life is like here today: The three major metropolitan airports in the New York region reopened in the late morning, but confusion reigned as schedules were strewn with cancellations, bags were searched and passengers were questioned aggressively. And in the evening, the three airports were closed because of the arrests at Kennedy and La Guardia. As for the rest of New York, it was to be a day of return to relatively normal life, with schools, theaters and many businesses reopening, and commuters traveling on bridges and through tunnels that had been closed. But instead of a nearly normal day, countless New Yorkers endured yet another psychological roller coaster. First came disheartening news. After days of vague but ominous estimates, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani announced in the late morning that 4,763 people were believed missing in the trade center rubble, bringing the possible death toll in the coordinated attacks to nearly 5,000 \ufffd more than double the 2,390 Americans lost at Pearl Harbor. The mayor said that only 184 bodies or body parts had been found, and that only 35 of them had been identified. Among the missing were 300 firefighters and 60 police officers. Three hours later, even as hope seemed to fade for those buried under the collapsed trade center, there were re"}, {"response": 378, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (09:03)", "body": "Also in the Independent an interesting analysis by Robert Fisk, their Beirut correspondent. He has lived the last 23 years in the Middle East, and he received the Brirish International Journalist of the Year award seven times. \"Bush is walking into a trap\" ... \"President Bush appears to be heading for the very disaster that Osama bin Laden has laid down for him.\" ... \"But this crime was perpetrated - it becomes ever clearer - to provoke the United States into just the blind, arrogant punch that the US military is preparing.\" \"Mr bin Laden - every day his culpability becomes more apparent - has described to me how he wishes to overthrow the pro-American regime of the Middle East, starting with Saudi Arabia and moving on to Egypt, Jordan and the other Gulf states. In an Arab world sunk in corruption and dictatorships - most of them supported by the West - the only act that might bring Muslims to strike at their own leaders would be a brutal, indiscriminate assault by the United States.\" ... \"\"America was targeted for attack,'' Mr Bush informed us on Friday, \"because we are the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world.'' But this is not why America was attacked. If this was an Arab-Muslim apocalypse, then it is intimately associated with events in the Middle East and with America's stewardship of the area.\" ... \"I will take a tiny risk and say that no other British newspaper - certainly no American newspaper - will today recall the fact that on 16 September 1982, Israel's Phalangist militia allies started their three-day orgy of rape and knifing and murder in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila that cost 1,800 lives. It followed an Israeli invasion of Lebanon designed to drive the PLO out of the country and given the green light by the then US Secretary of State, Alexander Haig which cost the lives of 17,500 Lebanese and Palestinians, almost all of them civilians. That's probably three times the death toll in the World Trade Centre. Yet I do not remember any vigils or memorial services or candle-lighting in America or the West for the innocent dead of Lebanon; I don't recall any stirring speeches about democracy or liberty. In fact, my memory is that the United States spent most of the bloody months of July and August 1982 calling for \"restraint\".\" ... \"But America's failure to act with honour in the Middle East, its promiscuous sale of missiles to those who use them against civilians, its blithe disregard for the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqi children under sanctions of which Washington is the principal supporter - all these are intimately related to the society that produced the Arabs who plunged America into an apocalypse of fire last week.\" ... \"Every effort will be made in the coming days to switch off the \"why'' question and concentrate on the who, what and how. CNN and most of the world's media have already obeyed this essential new war rule.\" ... \"I repeat: what happened in New York was a crime against humanity. And that means policemen, arrests, justice, a whole new international court at The Hague if necessary. Not cruise missiles and \"precision'' bombs and Muslim lives lost in revenge for Western lives. But the trap has been sprung. Mr Bush - perhaps we, too - are now walking into it.\""}, {"response": 379, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (09:20)", "body": "Thanks Moon. I too wondered when that kind of sentiment was going to hit the press.They never have anything good to say about the US except when they need help."}, {"response": 380, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (09:22)", "body": "Dow down over 600, probably under 9000."}, {"response": 381, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (09:48)", "body": "Slate answers the question \"What does bin Laden want?\" Bin Laden and his followers are alarming because they don't want anything from us. They don't want our sympathy. They want no material thing we can offer them. They don't want to participate in the community of nations. (They don't really believe in the nation-state.) They are motivated by religion, not politics. They answer to no one but their god, so they certainly won't answer to us. http://slate.msn.com/Assessment/01-09-13/Assessment.asp"}, {"response": 382, "author": "mari", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (09:49)", "body": "I have been looking for an article that expresses the European point of view and this is it. It is secular as can be expected. Moon, before we label this \"the European point of view\" let's step back and ask any Europeans on this board if they agree. I did read that the BBC ran a panel discussion the other evening and the \"audience members\" reflected many of this article's views. However, the Beeb was flooded with more than 2,000 calls of protest from viewers who felt that there was a disproportionate amount of anti-Americanism espoused and that it did not reflect the feelings of the average person. BTW, our ambassador was on the program and was to said to have been reduced to tears. Greg Dyke, head of the BBC, later apologized to him. It is true that the foreign press tends to be very critical of America, and even in the calmest of times, resorts to cheap shots--but I am interested in finding out what the average person thinks. For which publication does Jonathan Powers write?"}, {"response": 383, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (10:39)", "body": "Mari, we are talking here of the media...print,audio and visual.The Fourth Estate.Not the ordinary guy on the street. The tone of that article is \"We told you so..\".Almost with glee. They have short memories of who pulls them out of binds. And , sadly,so do we ."}, {"response": 384, "author": "Echo", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (10:45)", "body": "Articles in the British press today suggest that the terrorist attack on America may have been meant not merely as a \"punishment\" but primarily to provoke American wrath and powerful military response which would then serve as a means of turning moderate Muslims against America and the Western world. If there is no response, they may attack again. Catch 22."}, {"response": 385, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (10:57)", "body": "Sad when people think the US response would be carpet bombing of Afghanistan. Even that I would protest as a waste of my taxpayer money. Judicious use of our resources may already be having effect. Yesterday I heard that assets were being frozen worldwide (even Swiss accounts) of known enemies, including government ministers of the Taliban. A bit of motivation for turning bin Laden in? There must be a response as history has shown us that appeasement is not acceptable when you are dealing with fanatics. People seem to have forgotten that."}, {"response": 386, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (11:21)", "body": "For which publication does Jonathan Powers write? He is a syndicated columnist based in London. I read it in The Miami Herald. the Beeb was flooded with more than 2,000 calls of protest from viewers who felt that there was a disproportionate amount of anti-Americanism espoused and that it did not reflect the feelings of the average person. I read this too, but the reason was that the people thought it was way to soon and therefore in very bad taste. The US Ambassador was brought to tears, FGS. They felt that the BBC should have taped and edited instead of airing it live. The unfortunate reality is that in general, there is a very strong anti-American sentiment in Europe. If there is no response, they may attack again. Catch 22. I would say, they will attack again. This is not a good situation to be in, but we're in it. I have said this before, it's the Crusades all over again. There must be a response as history has shown us that appeasement is not acceptable when you are dealing with fanatics. People seem to have forgotten that. England, Ireland, Spain and Italy have suffered greatly from terrorist attacks."}, {"response": 387, "author": "mari", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (11:23)", "body": "The tone of that article is \"We told you so..\".Almost with glee. I know, and that's very hurtful, but it's nothing new. But, if I could have one or the other, I'd rather have the support of the guy in the street. Not to mention the guy at 10 Downing. What I was trying to explore: is there one monolithic European viewpoint, and the answer of course is no. They have short memories of who pulls them out of binds. And , sadly,so do we. You can't keep throwing it up to people, or get into a pissing contest over who has paid the highest price. It's counterproductive, especially now."}, {"response": 388, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (11:30)", "body": "And the world was a *perfect* place when America was isolationist?"}, {"response": 389, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (11:33)", "body": ""}, {"response": 390, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (11:44)", "body": "I think that we (America) need to re-examine all of our foreign policies, keeping in mind what our intentions are towards that nation (as the policies have always been), but also how we may be perceived by those governments. I know that is not exactly how most people would like for us to be- reactionary instead of proactive- but I think looking at the stark contrast of opinions in just the messages the presses of the two countries are putting out, is astonishing (perhaps less so to the rest of the world than to us). I don't think that America can afford to continue in the pseudo-isolationist way that we've been for the last however many years. I personally do not agree with the current administration's take it or leave it attitude towards the world. It is quite obvious to me, at least, that we have ignored serious concerns that the rest of the world seems to see and understand. I know that not a lot of people agree with me, or would voice this opinion if they have it, but I do not think that we should be backing (or as we appear to be backing) Israel in the way we are right now. I understand the historical ties there, and all that they entail, but when we sit back and just remove ourselves entirely from the situation, what does that say? It says \"it's ok for you all to kill each other; we'll just sit back and wait.\" That's not right. There is no justification for the loss of any life there, Israeli or Palestinian, just as there is no justification for the loss of life here in NY, or in other parts of the Middle ast, Ireland, Asia, etc. Here is a very good article from The Economist magazine from last week's web addition. I can't find the URL...I emailed it to myself... AMERICA'S PLACE IN THE WORLD The devastation wrought on September 11th will shape the debate about American foreign policy for years to come A TABOO has been broken. The attacks on New York and Washington, DC so dwarf earlier examples of terrorism in the United States that they are, in effect, the bombing of mainland America that even the Japanese and the Nazis did not achieve during the second world war. For some time to come, most attention in the United States will be focused on the most pressing questions. Who perpetrated the attack? How to strike back at the culprits? How to protect America from another such terrorist atrocity? But once these questions are addressed, an even larger question will have to be faced: what is America's proper role in the world? Indeed, in a confused fashion, the debate on that question has already begun. While the administration has been determined to present a united front, and has largely succeeded, the very complexity of the task facing it has elicited statements which seem to point in different directions. Both George Bush and his secretary of state, Colin Powell, have emphasised that America is looking to its allies for support in an effort to launch a global fight against terrorism. They have spoken of the attacks on New York and Washington as attacks on freedom-loving people everywhere, not just on the United States. And yet, at the same time, they have made it clear that America will defend itself, implying it will retaliate alone if necessary. Although the administration would clearly like to build a Gulf war-style coalition to support its next steps, America's allies are rightly nervous that they will have little influence over an aroused and angered United States. American television and newspapers have been full of commentators calling for declarations of war or military intervention on the one hand, and calm restraint on the other. Some have said that it is essential to look to America's allies for support, others that America must take decisive action soon, no matter what the concerns of its friends abroad. Some have claimed that America's terrorist opponents can be crushed, and that any governments thought to have harboured terrorists should be attacked, whether or not it can be shown that they had anything to do with the assault this week. One NEW YORK TIMES columnist absurdly insisted that Congress should make a general declaration of war, even if it cannot say which country America is actually at war with. Others have argued that dropping bombs elsewhere in the world can never make America safe from another such attack, and that preserving civil liberties at home and expanding diplomatic, as well as military, efforts abroad is the only long-term approach. A NEW WORLD OF DISORDER What is clear is that the self-confidence which prompted George Bush senior, the father of the current president, to speak boldly about a \"new world order\" more than a decade ago, and which spawned such optimistic paeans to American values and the triumph of liberal democracies as Francis Fukuyama's \"The End of History\", will now look like the relics of a distant age. America may have won the cold war, and just completed a decade of unparallelled prosperity. But it evidently now lives in a much more dangerous and com"}, {"response": 391, "author": "mari", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (12:46)", "body": "Moon, this is the article I referred to. Again, I was commenting on viewer reaction--not the BBC's excuses. BBC sorry over anti-US TV audience LONDON (Reuters) - The head of the BBC, Greg Dyke, has apologised for broadcasting a live discussion programme in which audience members blamed U.S. foreign policy for Tuesday's terror attacks. More than 2,000 viewers complained after seeing the former U.S. Ambassador to Britain, Philip Lader, brought close to tears after attempts to express his sadness over the attacks were shouted down by people expressing anti-American views. \"On balance, I think it was an inappropriate programme to broadcast live just two days after the attacks in the United States and I would like to apologise to viewers who were offended by it,\" Dyke said in a statement. The scenes on the Question Time programme on Thursday night prompted Dyke, the BBC's Director General, to add: \"With hindsight this programme should have been recorded and edited before it was broadcast.\" \"I have today spoken to Philip Lader, and apologised for any distress the programme may have caused him,\" Dyke said. One audience member had asked whether the attacks were the result of a failure of US foreign policy \"with millions of people around the world despising the American nation,\" according to the Independent newspaper. Mr Lader, who was slow hand clapped by some members of the audience, was tearful. \"I find it hurtful that you are suggesting that a majority of the world despises the United States,\" he said according to news sources. The Sun newspaper said that one Arab woman replied: \"It is the American government which is talking about war.\" The programme's presenter, David Dimbleby, struggled to control the discussion and tempers became raised, according to the BBC. The Corporation said that many of those who complained about the programme said the audience seemed to contain a disproportionate number of people with anti-American views. The BBC said that the programme tried to pick audiences with a broad range of views and had hoped to stage a frank discussion about the attacks."}, {"response": 392, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (13:24)", "body": "Mari in the balance of things, there is a stronger anti-American view in general, therefore the balance was probably tilted correctly. A NEW WORLD OF DISORDER Globalization is a far off ideal. This is the real world, I hope world leaders get hip to the beat. I am just waiting to see when the call comes to the European \"allies\" who will respond. An interesting article, Liz. And I don't usually agree with the views of The Economist."}, {"response": 393, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (14:10)", "body": "So many articles I have read this morning, talk about how Bush and his \"take it or leave it\" arrrogant approach to world affairs, is partially responsible for the horrors of last Tuesday. Aren't these authors forgetting, that the ball for the horrific events of Sep 11, started rolling long before Bush came to power ? These hijackers were tucked away at their Florida flight schools when Bill Clinton was still in power and Bush Jr was just another politican. Clinton by the way, did a damm sight more to end terrorism than any other US President in history, in my homeland of Ireland. Pro US feelings probably run higher in Ireland, than in any other European country."}, {"response": 394, "author": "amw", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (14:18)", "body": "Everyone, I can assure you that from what I have heard, discussions on the radio, television, with people, ordinary people in the street, Politicians of all parties, no one is anti- American, you have our full and unqualified support, of that I am certain, I have heard no dissenters. Everyone in the UK is appalled and shocked by last week's tragedy, who would not be."}, {"response": 395, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (14:55)", "body": "Ann, One can have anti-American views and be appalled and shocked by last week's tragedy. The point is that in general that's the feeling in Europe. Pro US feelings probably run higher in Ireland, than in any other European country. Agreed! Aren't these authors forgetting, that the ball for the horrific events of Sep 11, started rolling long before Bush came to power? I agree again,Beth, but don't forget that the majority of the media in Europe is secular and socialist. That says it all!"}, {"response": 396, "author": "rachael", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (15:15)", "body": "Moon, in general, what's the feeling in Europe? anti American? as a European, I beg to disagree. Maybe there aren't as many Europeans on this board as on some of the other groups I'm in, but the out-pouring of feelings from all over Europe, indeed the world, has been amazing to see. And does questioning what a government does make you anti that govt? I don't think so, in fact I think its the essence of democracy. However it must be noted that it is no more correct to say \"Europeans think ...\" than it would be to say \"Americans think ...\" and to say that there is a sole European view would be incorrect. I suggest, very hesitantly, that there might be differences between English speaking and non English speaking nations - Beth would you say that's fair? BTW the mainstream media in the UK is far from socialist, despite what the Daily Bellylaugh would have us believe."}, {"response": 397, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (15:19)", "body": "\"The Corporation said that many of those who complained about the programme said the audience seemed to contain a disproportionate number of people with anti-American views. \" \"Anti- people\" are the ones that are mostly motivated to appear on those shows and most of them have hidden agendas. Ann, I know that the majority of the UK friends don't have those feelings. I have been listening to TV this aft and now is the time that all the special interest groups are gonna come out fighting.Get ready to hear from: the environmentalists, the animal rights people,pro -life, NOW, the various political parties, the extreme religious right. This is after all a democracy. Everyone has an opinion. This came yesterday from a British Theatre Newsletter: \"To all of our US subscribers, I know I speak for everyone else when I send you our deepest sympathies. Whether one agrees with US foreign policy or not, no one can condone mass murder or be unmoved by the scale of the tragedy which has struck your nation. I love New York and have many friends there. I am unable to express the depth of my horror at what has happened. Today, as I drove near my home, I saw some young children had set what in the UK we call a \"jumble sale\" on a grassed area. They were selling their toys and books to raise money for the American Red Cross and a US flag flew over the tables. I think that says far more than I can.\" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We don't all agree with every foreign policy decision that is made, but to say we deserved the tragedy as that article intimated is barbaric."}, {"response": 398, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (15:25)", "body": "Moon, in general, what's the feeling in Europe? anti American? as a European, I beg to disagree. One can have anti-American views and be appalled and shocked by last week's tragedy. The point is that in general that's the feeling in Europe. I will stop repeating myself here as this point does not seem to get through. And does questioning what a government does make you anti that govt? I don't think so, in fact I think its the essence of democracy. To be truly \"democratic\" you should present both points of view. Unfortunately, and again I repeat, the majority of the media in Europe is secular and socialist. And it comes off very one-sided. I will add that I am very familiar with the Italian and French Media."}, {"response": 399, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (15:31)", "body": "Rob, my sympathies. Warmest Hugs on New Zealand's loss. Sorry you multinationals, but rolling over and playing dead will just play into their hands. If we don't stop it, they will take over the world. Good luck! Perhaps you don't want our help next time YOUR war starts?! I think I will go back to geology and astronomy where some rationality reigns."}, {"response": 400, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (15:49)", "body": "I think I will go back to geology and astronomy where some rationality reigns. LOL, Marcia! I don't wish to be misunderstood. I think everyone should join forces with the US to fight this war. I would like it to be a united effort and I was only questioning whether it will be. Whether the European allies will join the US? I hope to God that they will. There is no socialist/secular blood in my veins!"}, {"response": 401, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (16:01)", "body": "I really think at this stage, most Americans look on the candle light vigils and the expressions of sympathy and support as really nice and up lifting. However, ( those who are in favour of military action ) believe that while expressions of support are wonderful, it is time for European governments to put their money where their mouth is and show their support in more concrete terms. Italy said yesterday for example, that while they condemm the terrorist attacks, they will not coperate with the US in any military actions the US takes. They think that this is America's fight and not their own. I wonder will they still think that, if the next plane to be hikacked is an Italian one ? So having a nation wide moment of silence in your country is a lovely thing, it ISnot going to get the job done against the terorists. I don't think pro or anti American feelings are causing European nations to react as they do to possible military actions. I think it is simply whether or not they are willing to get their hands dirty to wipe out a threat that affects us all. Some will be, some won't be....simple as that. Plus I really feel a lot of this so called anti-American sentiment is based largely on resentment, based on America wealth and power. They resent America for having such an abundance of riches when they are living, if not a hand to mouth exhistance, at least a less luxurious one. America is percieved as the big, ugly kid in the corner who can boss people around simply because they can. Then are then disliked and picked on, when in fact they may be simple and peace loving as the rest of us. Every time I go home to Ireland, I get little digs from friends and family about my jet set life style and my fabulous standard of living, simply beacuse I live in America. I mean it is ridiculous. They have no clue what my life is really like and, that it is on many levels, just as hard as theirs. But that little bit if resentment is always there. It drives me nuts. I really think a lot of this sentiment has its roots in WW2 too. The USA bailed Europe out of a big ole nasty mess 50 years ago, and then gave Europe a ton of money to rebuild itself. This messed with Eropeans sense of their own self worth as they needed a vulgar, upstart of a nation to save their butts 50 years ago. No one likes the feeling of being permanantly beholden to someone. If they can take a little dig at America and how messed up its foreign policy is, then maybe in some sad little way, it ressures them that they are not just one tiny, little European country.....but that they are still the great colonial power from 100 years ago. They hate the fact that the US has a larger role to play in world affairs than they do and resent them as a result. I'm sorry if my thoughts sound vague or disjointed. I'm getting ready to go to an Aerosmith concert, as I type. I had been looking forward to it for weeks, but now I'd give anything not to go. Concerts seem so trivial now...... somehow....sigh....."}, {"response": 402, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (16:38)", "body": "Excellent summation, Beth. I've thought that for a long time. Makes them appear even more petty in my mind. I doubt the US wants all the countries/peoples of the world that we've help to feel beholden to us, but at least they can act like friends rather than enemies, sniping at everything we do. Try factoring in a longer-term perspective. There have been many world powers, countries whose influence has extended beyond their borders. Some have conquered other peoples. Some only exert economic influence. These date back to the beginning of time. The US's standing as a global power has only been for a mere 50 years or so. Think about how long there was a British Empire or a French empire. If our culture has overwhelmed others, at least it is not due to military occupation. This afternoon, while driving around, I was trying to come up with equivalents, i.e., if the commercial jetliners had crashed into symbols of other countries. I thought about Italy or France but could only come up with symbols of their past. If our so-called allies do not support us, this is one time I would definitely advocate picking up our ball and bat and going home. Rots a ruck."}, {"response": 403, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (17:07)", "body": "This afternoon, while driving around, I was trying to come up with equivalents, i.e., if the commercial jetliners had crashed into symbols of other countries. I thought about Italy or France but could only come up with symbols of their past. I thought of this too. The only place would be a football match, perhaps a qualifying World Cup Match. That thought is scary. Milan's stadium holds 84,000 people. Italy said yesterday for example, that while they condemm the terrorist attacks, they will not coperate with the US in any military actions the US takes. That was a rumour. I believe that the Italian Gov. has stated that they will support the US with their military, planes, ships etc. Berlusconi supports Bush and the US. Luckily, his coalition have a majority in the Senate and the House. This would not have been the case had the Socialist won the last election."}, {"response": 404, "author": "amw", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (17:16)", "body": "Moon One can have anti-american views and be appalled... Moon, it's not just that at least not in the UK, Tony Blair has repeated time and again in interviews that the UK Government is behind the US in whatever it takes and I do believe that this time the UK Public is right behind the government, urging caution, not just because of the US but for democracy and the fact that what happened in NY could happen in London. In fact it wasn't many years ago that the John Major cabinet in Downing Street was attacked by Rockets fired by the IRA."}, {"response": 405, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (17:41)", "body": "Ann, I never doubted the UK's backing or Italy's for that matter. I am more worried about France, Belgium, etc."}, {"response": 406, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (19:26)", "body": "(Moon)The only place would be a football match, perhaps a qualifying World Cup Match. That thought is scary. Milan's stadium holds 84,000 people. But a football match, while upping the casualty toll, is not symbolic. Two days before the WTC and Pentagon were hit, there were three major sports events taking place within a few miles of eachother--nearly 80K at a Jets game in East Rutherford, thousands at the US Open Tennis Tournament in Queens, and I believe the Yankees played at home in the Bronx. Yankee Stadium holds about 60K. You've got around 175,000 people concentrated in three easy-to-hit targets within less than 20 miles. bin Laden wasn't going for large numbers of people."}, {"response": 407, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (19:49)", "body": "Italy said yesterday for example, that while they condemm the terrorist attacks, they will not coperate with the US in any military actions the US takes. At today's press conference with Secretary Powell, a journalist told him that rumor and he denied it. Said his Italian counterpart would be in Washington in a few days."}, {"response": 408, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (20:04)", "body": "Hi all I got BAD news for anyone worried about the Taliban response. According to our local daily the Taliban is moving Scud missiles (the sort that hit Israel in the Gulf War)around and has called up 20000 fighters to fight any ground war. Are you sure you got the right targets, because God help the Western world and anyone who fell into cahoots with the United States if you have not. There are two kinds of war - the undeclared war like this one where military strikes are carried out but no official declaration of war, and a general war involving the mobilisation of the armed forces and the cancellation of diplomatic relations by declaring war. On to other things. Let me be absolutely clear, I am not trying to undermine the greiving process or the determination to retaliate when I write the following. I support the impending war insofar as the right targets are hit and that it give the appearance of the international coalition being united. What I do not support is an all out war (a world war would not be impossible in this case), because I am pretty certain no one wants mushroom clouds and radioactive darts doing a sinister ballet across the skies. You may ask what has Colombia got to do with anything at the moment, but have you honestly ever considered the fact that unwanted involvement on the part of the CIA and Pentagon in places like Colombia has fuelled the conflict there to the point that it has the capacity to possibly engulf neighbouring countries? Or how about the International Monetary Fund in African countries where the nebulous Multinational Corporations that have corporate HQ in New York ply their trade at dirt cheap rates? The IMF will not allow financial aid to these countries while corruption and other problems are rife in them. Fair enough. But to sort out those problems in part requires IMF help. So what does all this have to do with anything? Well, that coupled with things like the $30 billion National Missile Defence system and things like withdrawing from international environmental protocols (I know that the Climate Protocol is dogged by not knowing whether warming is cyclical or not), has a few countries fuming (pro-US and anti-US)because they see the United States as using them for it's own gain and every western country including New Zealand is guilty to some extent. Still not a reason to attack the WTC, but the faceless cowards that did probably used something like this to justify their attack. Maybe Bush can soften his stance on trade and thing like the environmental protocols since they are designed to protect our offspring, and open dialogue with North Korea before Kim Il Jong decides to restart the missile programme that crippled his nation. I may lose some friends for this, but it is my honest opinion (one that existed well before Bush came to power, but has come to the fore because he has it in his power if he wants to, to change a few things). I do not advocate a general change in foreign policy or a reduction on arms spending and certainly don't want to open the United States to something even worse, but I would look at a couple things long and hard. Rob All arguments to my e-mail. I am certain Marcia did not intend Geo to become a warzone."}, {"response": 409, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (20:45)", "body": "Do any of you know of any websites that I can tell her about, that give out info on what supplies are still needed ? I tried the Red Cross website, but didn't get much info.(Beth) Here are a couple of info sites about how to help. http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010924/help.html http://www.helping.org/"}, {"response": 410, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (20:45)", "body": "20,000 fighters? Is that a typo? The $30 billion National Missile Defense system has been rendered less relevant. This might better be spent on counter bioterror measures."}, {"response": 411, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (21:10)", "body": "Rob, you may post anything any time in anything I have anything to do with. Your statistics are staggering. Columbia, of course!!! We have a long litany of nefarious deeds in the name of \"Patriotism\". Anthrax, anyone? What a horrible way to die! It will be conventional because any other kind of war will kill mankind and every other living thing... That is why I posted a ribbon on Geo's front page..."}, {"response": 412, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (21:34)", "body": "Subject: Monday morning Date: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:57 PM From: Womack, Jack Yes, Monday morning. Took longer than usual to go as far as 72nd as the local is now running on the express tracks and the express is running on the local tracks. Have assumed, as with everything that has so far occured, that this condition is now permanent. Here at work my colleague Dee Dee is back at work today; she came in with her husband, Gavin. It's a typical story, now: he was on the 104th floor of the South Tower. When the first plane hit the other tower three guys in his office got up and immediately went downstairs, catching the elevator to 75 and then taking the express down. By the time the three guys got to the lobby the second building had been hit. Her brother-in-law called her sister twice, the second time to say smoke was filling the floor and he was on his way down. \"He fucked up,\" Dee Dee's brother kept saying. He was working in the World Financial Center, across the West Side Highway from the Trade Towers, was outside when the second plane hit. Says that dozens were jumping, you weren't sure what they were at first. When the first tower collapsed everybody, he said, started to run. Uncontrolled mass panic on the part of everyone, swarming up along the river walk to the highway. (There've been plenty of reports of injuries suffered by people trampled in the two stampedes away from the collapsing buildings). By the time he got to the Village, the second tower collapsed. As you might imagine he's got a combat-level thousand yard stare; I'd forgotten but now remember older brothers etc. looking like that, back in the late 60s and early 70s, after they came back from Vietnam. My neighbor, across the hall, a young Latina woman (and her seven-year-old son) is fine, although she worked in a building across the street from the Towers. Again, she was outside when the first one started to come down; her particular crowd streamed eastward as far as they could go, then up. \"I guess you'll be seeing me around the apartment the next few weeks.\" Friday night Valeria read what I'd written so far. \"You are describing events,\" she told me. \"Not emotion.\" And she's absolutely right. So let me say how I'm feeling this morning, and how I've been feeling. The first thing I want to make clear is how gratified I was to know that V was all right, last Tuesday; how overwhelmed with happiness, how comforted. We weren't sure we were going to see each other that day, but once the trains to Brooklyn began, she was able to get back. We have spent as much time as we have together, since. I feel deeply blessed, and feel as guilty. When I think of what Ellen and Ellie & all those of our friends who live south of 14th went through (and in the case of Ellie, still going through; her place might not be accessible again for weeks, at the least; she's headed up to New Hampshire.) I know we came out very, very lucky. We came out easy, in fact. I'm feeling terrible nostalgia for buildings that I never found attractive, except sometimes at a distance. I think of all the times I went through the mall underneath the towers, on my way to the PATH station to go visit Valeria when she still lived in Jersey City. During the past three years I became very familiar with everything down there. I remember V & I meeting her mother down there, at the head of the escalators that went up from the station. She'd stand and wait in front of Godiva, which was next to an HSBC branch. I remember being down at the Border's WTC back in June (last time I was there, in fact) when Gaiman had his tour kickoff appearance. I remember walking with Katya & Carrie & Robert Legault across the bridge that led between the towers & World Financial Center, en route to Ellie's apartment, for the wake after the memorial service for Jenna, April 6. The orchid show was going on, and the bridge and Palm Court downstairs (also destroyed, pretty much, though the palms are still standing) were full of orchids. On our refrigerator is a little card of a Boston bull terrier Carrie sent us a month or so ago, thanking us for brunch; she'd bought the card in the mall underneath with Ellie. Any of us might have been there, and but for the grace of God, or synchronicity, or something, we weren't. Not this time, at least. This isn't a comforting feeling, still. Familiar landmarks vanish constantly in NY -- they're getting ready, or have been getting ready, to build a new Columbia building around the corner from me at 110th where D'agostino was -- but never before have so many vanished so quickly, so awfully. I cannot begin to imagine what the place will look like, once it has finally been cleared. I haven't looked at a newspaper since Saturday morning except just to glimpse headlines & pages(I did save them, though); I haven't turned on any of the news programming except at the request of others when they've come to visit. The more I saw the worse I was feeling -- jittery, irritable, unable to focu"}, {"response": 413, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (21:36)", "body": "Subject: The Weekly PoliTicker Date: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:49 AM From: PoliticsOnline To: Special Edition: Analysis of the Role of the Internet and the Attack on America Note From: Phil Noble (phil@politicsonline.com) President, PoliticsOnline 843 853 8190 office phone 843 296 1490 mobile PoliticsOnline has received many calls from journalists and others about what role the Internet is playing in the current crisis. To respond we have 1) developed this Special Report that outlines the six key points in understanding the developments and, 2) created a special section on our web site (www.PoliticsOnline.com) to track these developments and provide a research and reference source. The attack on the Pentagon is indeed ironic when we remember that it was the Army that started it all way back in 1969 with a project called ARPNET. They wanted to design a system that would allow computers to communicate in times of national disaster. They were planning on missile attacks from the Russians, not civilian airplane attacks from terrorists. As one analyst noted, during this crisis people turned to the Internet for what they needed and wanted, just as they began doing with the telephone many years ago. Recently the focus has been on the crash of the tech stocks and the success and failures of e-commerce. This week the Internet stories were about the technology was incorporated into the daily life of average citizens in these extraordinary times. This week the Internet truly became The People's Channel. 1. What the Net does best is Communications and Connections In this crisis, the Internet did what it does best - communicating and connecting. For those personally caught up in the crisis, it was a means of communications when other means failed. People stranded in the World Trade Center Towers sent e-mails and instant messages to their loved ones; Blackberrys and pagers came through when mobile phones and land lines failed. Hundreds of online groups formed to do all the things people wanted to do - reach out to each other, share their grief, search for friends and loved ones. * NY.com (www.ny.com) created an interactive database listing survivors from the Trade Center collapse. Within 24 hours they had 2,600 listings. * Hundreds of people posted prayers, related prayer circles and discussions groups on Beliefnet (www.beliefnet.com), a popular non-denominational site. * United (www.ual.com) and American Airlines (www.americanairlines.com) posted information and listed phone numbers for people to call looking for more information on their crashes. * People used Yahoo Groups to create numerous discussion groups to share information, express grief and vent their anger. Survivor Databases Offered by NY.Com and Prodigy (InternetNews) Ny.com, a Web site that calls itself the \"paperless guide to New York City\" and Prodigy, the national ISP, are offering interactive databases listing survivors of Tuesday's World Trade Center collapse. http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article/0,,3_882651,00.html Web Offers Both News and Comfort (New York Times) The major news Web sites were quickly overloaded. Many links to the not-so- major news Web sites stopped working. But more than news, what people all over the world craved in the wake of yesterday's terrorist attacks was connection to each other, and many of them found that most easily achieved by going online. http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article/0,,3_882651,00.html After Attack, the Net Reassures and Informs (USA Today) As phone systems faltered in the aftermath of Tuesday's terrorist attack, the nation clung to the Net, reaching out to friends and loved ones, praying, spreading accusations and gossip, and overwhelming news and information sites. http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001/09/12/more Net Offers Lifeline Amid Tragedy (CNET) People in New York City and around the globe turned to the Internet on Tuesday to communicate with their families and to grasp the horrific sequence of terrorist attacks that transformed the World Trade Center and the Pentagon into disaster zones. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7132246.html Internet Performs Global Role, Supplementing TV (Online Journalism Review) History expands. Terribly. In 1914, two bullets fired at an automobile driving through the streets of Sarajevo killed the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and Sophia, his wife. Their deaths led to World War One. http://ojr.usc.edu/content/story.cfm?request=637 Web Acts as Hub For Info On Attacks (CNET) Moments after airplanes separately crashed into both towers of the World Trade Center, and then later the Pentagon, Web sites for the major news outlets were swamped by an overflow of traffic. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7129241.html E-Mail Indispensable as Phone Systems Jam (Atlanta Journal-Constitution) As the World Trade Center collapsed and planes plunged from the sky, sending and receiving e-mail -- the most popular Internet activity -- became the indispensable com"}, {"response": 414, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (21:55)", "body": "Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:18:52 -0700 From: William Meyers To: terry@spring.net, paul@spring.net Subject: more Paul, Here's another fragment: As soon as we got to work that morning word went around that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center -- and soon after that, another one. Then the rumor took flight that there were five more hijacked airliners in the air. There was the distinct thought in the collective mind that at any moment we could be vaporized too -- that so far we were simply among the lucky ones, and no different from those whose luck had just run out. I took a walk around midtown Manhattan at mid-day, through the herds of people streaming up the avenues and through the park toward their uptown apartments -- strangely silent and subdued, preoccupied and fearful, many stopping off and lining up at their ATMs to tank up for future uncertainties. Down at the end of Sixth and Fifth Avenues, where the twin towers used to be, a thick volcanic cloud of smoke and ash was roiling up in a dome -- falling like a gray snow on downwind Brooklyn later in the afternoon. All the cops you could see were already wearing flak jackets -- not a one without one -- and carrying shotguns. Hundreds of firefighters and medical rescuers were killed after the first blast when rushing to help -- that was the most disturbing part. Not that the thought of those poor people trapped in those planes was any less disturbing. I was in my office most of the day, listening to people's radios and checking the Internet bulletins/images on my computer. We knew our building could just as easily have been on fire and crumbling to the ground. It was a day of palpable grief, most of those who showed up leaving early, and work moving along at close to a standstill -- very heavy emotions welling up in everyone. \"It could just as easily have been me\" was the prevailing compassionate thought for all the victims. heavy emotions welling up in everyone. \"It could just as easily have been me\" was the prevailing compassionate thought for all the victims. At any rate, enough fear and grief was inflicted to keep the anguished and vengeful spirits who perpetrated the deed happy in their disembodied misery. What did they prove, though, but that even at the Pentagon they're just another bunch of vulnerable protoplasmic beings wishing they were happy. Luckily we had made our reservations for another round-trip flight to San Francisco just the day before -- we couldn't have managed it any later. They were for a Thanksgiving trip. Maybe by then we'll start to feel better again about flying. There's a new, more explicit message from the Dalai Lama today, calling for a nonviolent response to the tragic events. But I can't send that on to you until tomorrow. Wm"}, {"response": 415, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (23:13)", "body": "Italy said yesterday for example, that while they condemm the terrorist attacks, they will not coperate with the US in any military actions the US takes. It wasn't exactly a rumour - maybe a partial misquote: Italian defence minister rules out Italian troop role ROME, Sept 16 (AFP) - Italian Defense Minister Antonio Martino on Sunday said Italian troops would not take part in any US retaliation after the terror attacks and that use of the term \"war\" was inappropriate. \"The term 'war' is inappropriate. It is not a conflict between states and Italian troops will not go anywhere,\" Martino told the RAI television station. \"I feel I am in a position to categorically exclude calling on the army,\" he said. The defence minister warned that \"nobody had better strike randomly,\" adding that 100,000 Italian soldiers were involved in various peacekeeping missions abroad. He said the US would certainly take military action once the perpetrators of the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and Pentagon had been identified, and only then \"will we see what we are called upon to do.\" Asked about Saudi-born extremist Osama bin Laden's role in the attacks, Martino said \"the idea that one man is behind this tragedy is misguided.\" In an interview with the daily Il Messaggero published Sunday, Martino urged the US not to act alone in the event of a military operation. _________________ Monday, 17 September, 2001, 09:01 GMT 10:01 UK Italy ready to retaliate against terrorists The Italian defence minister has made it clear that his armed forces are ready to take part in any action that may be agreed in retaliation against the attacks on the United States. The minister, Antonio Martino, told the BBC that he was misquoted when he appeared to have suggested yesterday Sunday that no Italian troops would take part in such operations. Mr Martino said that intelligence would first have to show clearly who the real culprits were, but once that was done, Italy's commitment would be total and absolute. From the newsroom of the BBC World Service"}, {"response": 416, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (23:34)", "body": "I am beginning to burn out on this. I put a ribbon on my front page (Geo's) Please feel free to borrow it for wherever you wish to place it."}, {"response": 417, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (01:41)", "body": "Hi all IT IS WAR. OFFICIAL. THE TALIBAN HAS DECLARED A HOLY WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. 20000 FIGHTERS STAND READY TO DIE FOR WHAT THEY PERCEIVE TO BE A GREATER CAUSE AND WHAT WE PERCEIVE TO BE MADNESS. Source: Television One New Zealand. See http://www.stuff.co.nz for more on the New Zealand coverage. I absolutely had to post this for everyone to read. See more at Stuff.co.nz - Canterbury (not sure where under Canterbury it will get posted). It was written by a nine year old school boy and featured on the front page of the Press edition for September 18, 2001. by Charles MacDonald, a pupil at Mount Pleasant Primary School In America on a Tuesday morning An EVIL force struck without warning Planes hit the buildings, people screamed A terrible accident so it seemed The towers and Pentagon both took hits The 1st tower fell and smashed to bits. The terrified bystanders choked by the smoke While the Palestinians thought it a joke Reality of it all came clear As another plane smashed in the middle of nowhere The fear and drama continued hour after hour As down came the 2nd tower The attack had cost many lives Heart-broken men cry for their wives. We DON'T want war but PEACE instead only to feel safe in our bed. Rob"}, {"response": 418, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (02:01)", "body": "Sorry my friends, but this appears to be war. The Taliban has said ANYONE HARBOURING UNITED STATES BASES ARE ALSO ON THE HIT LIST. Marcia, dear, the drumbeat of Mars is getting louder, the brass is getting more and more menacing. I for once think the possibility of a big Middle East war involving EVERYONE is not so far of after all. Rob"}, {"response": 419, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (08:42)", "body": "More from William Meyers CALCUTTA, India, Sept 17 (Reuters) - Tibet's exiled spiritual leader the Dalai Lama urged the United States on Monday not to respond militarily to last week's devastating attacks, saying only nonviolence could combat international terrorism. \"While I express my sympathy, I have appealed to the U.S. president not to respond with more violence as violence is not an appropriate answer,\" the Tibetan Buddhist leader told a news conference in Calcutta. The Dalai Lama fled from his homeland to India with thousands of followers in 1959, nine years after the Chinese army entered Tibet and overthrew the Buddhist theocracy there. The 1989 Nobel Peace Prize laureate's comments came after Pope John Paul appealed on Sunday to the world not to allow the attacks on New York and Washington to lead to more violence, and not to allow \"a spiral of hate and violence\" to prevail. The United States has pledged to avenge the attacks by hijacked airliners that slammed into the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon near Washington last Tuesday. NONVIOLENCE ONLY ANSWER \"Most cases of violence only cause destruction...these things will have to be prevented the nonviolent way. Only nonviolent means can counter terrorism in the long-term,\" the Dalai Lama said. The United States has said Islamic militant Osama bin Laden, harbored by Afghanistan's Taliban rulers, was the prime suspect behind the attacks in which some 5,000 people were killed or are missing. Bin Laden, a 44-year-old multimillionaire, has denied he was responsible, saying Afghanistan would not permit it. The Dalai Lama said he believed there were numerous causes for the attacks. \"Every event has many causes...you can't just pick up one individual -- Osama bin Laden -- and say he was responsible. That is not realistic,\" said the Dalai Lama, whose exiled government accuses China of repression in Tibet. \"The economic gap between the rich and poor nations is one factor (that could have been responsible),\" he said. But the Dalai Lama said the attacks could not have been sanctified by any religion. \"The essence of all major religions is compassion, forgiveness, contentment, self-discipline and brotherhood,\" he said. \"Some people may only be using the name of religion to justify their actions.\""}, {"response": 420, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (09:19)", "body": "\"Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.\" http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1550000/1550366.stm That's not the only rumour coming out of Pakistan : \"Reuters news agency quoted a Pakistani army captain as saying the Taliban had moved a large number of weapons, including missiles, to positions near the Pakistani border.\" http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1549000/1549700.stm"}, {"response": 421, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (09:53)", "body": "Who would've ever thought watching Dave Letterman would be a gut-wrenching experience as it was last night. And to see Dan Rather break down twice. Really makes you wonder how those newscasters have managed over the past week. It's apparent to me that, in working 18+ hrs a day, they've been unable to deal with it on a personal level."}, {"response": 422, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (10:18)", "body": "Dan Rather is human. He's 70 years old. Taliban declares a jihad against the US: \"I would like to tell my people that our jihad will be formally resuming against the Americans,\" the deputy chairman of the Taliban Council of Ministers, Mullah Mohammad Hasan Akhond, said in a speech broadcast late on Monday. Akhond said it was unimaginable that the \"terror attacks\" against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon had been committed by the Taliban or by Osama bin Laden. Also from MSNBC:"}, {"response": 423, "author": "toyce", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (11:03)", "body": "This is just a subjective thought on my part, but I feel strongly about this. I think that bin Laden has a politcal agenda that is much larger than just getting the US out of the Middle East region. He's using religion to \"cloak\" that agenda. Has anyone thought what he might do if his first objective was ever realized? I think he would then turn his \"holy wrath\" to Middle Eastern governments who did not agree with him. The first one would probably be Saudi Arabia, since he is supposedly persona non grata there. I feel that his utlimate aim is to create a Middle Eastern theorcracy with himself, his son, or lieutenants at the helm."}, {"response": 424, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (11:17)", "body": "I disagree, Toyce. This is Jihad. And it is against the West. The Italian defence minister has made it clear that his armed forces are ready to take part in any action that may be agreed in retaliation against the attacks on the United States. Is Italy the first allied country to offer this? Where are the other allies? Bin Laden has many cells in Europe. The French intelligence discovered a plan to blow up the Eiffel Tower recently and where able to stop it. As Karen has said, in Europe there are many buildings that they could blow up but not as many people would die because they are not skyscapers. The Vatican on Sunday when the Pope holds his outdoor mass. That would be disastrous. Italy is on high alert."}, {"response": 425, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (11:29)", "body": "Terry, you miss my point. (Moon) As Karen has said, in Europe there are many buildings that they could blow up but not as many people would die because they are not skyscapers. You also miss my point."}, {"response": 426, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (11:37)", "body": "You also miss my point. It's two against one, Karen. ;-) So will you leave us hanging?"}, {"response": 427, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (12:29)", "body": "re toyce's comment, I read one explanation about Bin Laden's actions that said something like (and I paraphrase) its not as simple as a Holy War because he's not just anti the west, he's anti other Muslim nations who don't agree with his particular brand of totalitarianism. Dunno if that's right, but it does make a bit of sense in the light of his exile from Saudi Arabia. the thing that puzzles me is, he's said to be so phenomenally rich, where did all that dosh come from? And maybe I'm being dim here, but isn't a contradiction in terms to be a multi-millionaire and be anti capitalism?"}, {"response": 428, "author": "toyce", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (12:32)", "body": "Rachael. I doubt he can explain it either."}, {"response": 429, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (12:44)", "body": "(Moon) As Karen has said, in Europe there are many buildings that they could blow up but not as many people would die because they are not skyscapers. (Karen) You also miss my point. I get your point. Moon, did you see my last post? These terrorists were not merely after mass casualties."}, {"response": 430, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (13:08)", "body": "Moon, did you see my last post? I did. And I agree with you, Eileen. The Twin Towers were a symbol as the Eiffel Tower and the Vatican are. Had the Twin Towers been struck later in the day the casulaties would have been higher. I do think that countries would have a stroger reaction to deaths of their citizens rather than the destruction of a symbolic building empty. The worse case is for both at once as in the Twin Towers or God forbid, the outdoor mass at the Vatican. Hugh stadiums in Europe have also become symbols and that is why I used that example yesterday."}, {"response": 431, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (14:16)", "body": "Europe may not have as many huge skyscrapers as we do over here, but they do have some. A hit on Canary Wharf in London for example, would probably result in thousands of deaths. However, to Londoners, that is just a very tall building. It lacks the national symolism that a hit on something like Buckingham Palace would have. Jeez, I can't believe I am sitting here calming talking about blowing up buildings as if I'm playing battleships or something....this is all very weird. Rachael....bin Laden is the son of a Saudi construction billionaire. His father was the Donald Trump of the Arab world in the 40's and 50's and is/was filthy rich. His family in Saudi Arabia have apparantly long since disowned him, but we presume he was still able to get his hands on some of the family loot, to use for his evil purposes."}, {"response": 432, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (14:35)", "body": "Quite right, Eileen and Beth, the targets had to be symbolic (financial evils or government evils), with loss of life secondary. That's why the Eiffel Tower hardly qualifies or a mere football stadium. (Moon) Had the Twin Towers been struck later in the day the casulaties would have been higher. Ensuring the timing of the attack was first and foremost, as opposed to hitting the towers at peak occupancy. They did that by using the first transcontinental flights of the day where the likelihood of delays was minimized. All the planes had to be in the air at approximately the same time and not sitting on runways waiting for approval to take off."}, {"response": 433, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (14:49)", "body": "Rob, thanks for your eloquence as usual. Nothing is as deadly as a \"holy War\" whhx makes it so terrifying. From the crusdades onward ([probably before that, too) we have fought over which of Abraham's sons was his rightful heir. We have missed God in all this infighting. Tha same Father but human sons who continue to perpetuate animosity and death in His name. The West will certainly suffer. What can be done other than arguing with former friends and wringing hands. It is not time to be divisive. Surely our survival supercedes all the little dlaws one sees in the other's interpretations of all that is too horrible to contemplate. God help us even if you don't believe..."}, {"response": 434, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (15:18)", "body": "(Karen) All the planes had to be in the air at approximately the same time and not sitting on runways waiting for approval to take off. Yet for all their in-depth research, the terrorists couldn't get the flight from Newark in the air with the others. It pulled away from the gate at 8-ish (same as the other flights) but waited in line for takeoff for more than 30 mins. This type of delay is so common at EWR one has to wonder if this was built into their plan or if it had an effect on the outcome. I get a strange sense of comfort from the latter. I also read or heard early flights were likely selected because they were relatively empty--less passengers to control."}, {"response": 435, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (16:24)", "body": "(Karen), That's why the Eiffel Tower hardly qualifies That is a symbol of the industrial revolution, which in a sense started us on this Godless path. I would say it is a symbol."}, {"response": 436, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (17:11)", "body": "(Moon)Is Italy the first allied country to offer this? Where are the other allies? This is long, but an excellent round-up of countries and reactions. Key Nations' Reactions to Attacks Tuesday September 18 9:32 AM ET Countries Take Action on US Attacks By The Associated Press, International actions and events connected with the U.S. campaign to find and punish those responsible for attacks on New York and Washington. EUROPE: - ALBANIA: Declared it stood on the side of the United States and its Western allies in the fight against terrorism, offered use of Albanian airspace, ports and airports to the United States and its allies. - AUSTRIA: Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel said his country would allow the use of Austrian airspace and provide whatever support it can, but Austrian soldiers would not become involved in military action because that is banned by Austria's constitution. - BELARUS: President Alexander Lukashenko, who had often lashed out at the United States, sent his condolences to the American people. Belarus did not join Russia and other European nations in observing a moment of silence last week, and some officials said the terror attacks had been prompted by arrogant U.S. policies. - BELGIUM: Organized an anti-terrorist sweep following the attacks, holding two suspects on charges of possible involvement in planning an attack on U.S. interests in Europe. As current president of the European Union (news - web sites), it has also played host to emergency meetings of EU foreign ministers to show support for the United States. - BOSNIA: Stepped up security for U.S. citizens and property. ``This country will offer any kind of assistance the United States government may ask for,'' said Foreign Ministry spokesman Amer Kapetanovic. - BRITAIN: Urged its citizens to leave parts of Pakistan amid fears that U.S. retaliation might target neighboring Afghanistan (news - web sites). Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites), who has pledged British support for U.S. action against the terrorists, called President Bush (news - web sites)'s handling of the attack and its aftermath ``absolutely right'' and praised the U.S. administration's consultations with allies. BRITAIN: The Bank of England cut its key lending rate by 0.25 percentage points to 4.75 percent as part of a coordinated global effort to boost consumer borrowing and spending in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks. Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) spoke by telephone with Chinese President Jiang Zemin (news - web sites) in an effort to build support for international action. BULGARIA: Prime Minister Simeon Saxcoburggotski pledged support for an international campaign against terror. Foreign Minister Solomon Pasi said his country, which is applying for NATO (news - web sites) membership, was ``ready to act as a (virtual) NATO ally'' in the campaign. -CROATIA: Supports United States against terrorism. However, Prime Minister Ivica Racan expressed concerns Monday that the European Union countries may now seek to impose tougher measures on their borders to prevent entry of potential terrorists, isolating non-members, including Croatia. CZECH REPUBLIC: Security was increased at the country's airports and other sensitive points such as nuclear power plants and dams. All unscheduled flights were forbidden. The government expressed its full support to the United States for military action against the terrorists. - DENMARK: As a NATO member, Denmark supports a joint action against terrorism, and the government asked intelligence agencies to track down possible supporters in Denmark. The Faeroe Islands and Greenland, both semiautonomous Danish territories, sent letters of condolence late Tuesday and held two minutes of silence on Friday. - ESTONIA: Was quick to condemn the airborne attacks, and the Foreign Ministry said the nation was ``prepared to provide to the United States any assistance within the scope of its capabilities.'' Estonia and its Baltic neighbors Latvia and Lithuania also expressed concerns that the crisis might put NATO enlargement on the back burner. FINLAND: Has beefed up security at borders, airports and outside embassies and increased air surveillance. Prime Minister Paavo Lipponen said ``the likelihood of terrorist attacks against Finland or Finnish targets abroad is very small.'' - FRANCE: Defense Minister Alain Richard said France was confident the United States would react responsibly to last week's terror attacks, but he cautioned against using force alone to retaliate. ``We must use it in a way that doesn't provoke other elements of instability,'' he said. - GEORGIA: Officials have said they were ready to offer any help to the United States in its efforts to find and punish the perpetrators of the attacks. - GERMANY: Interior Minister Otto Schily called for a review of ``our entire intelligence strategy'' after three men who lived quietly in Hamburg for years were implicated in the terror attacks in the United States"}, {"response": 437, "author": "rachael", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (17:28)", "body": "excellent and useful summary, thanks suzee UK news today has been reporting Blair doing major diplomatic stuff to get countries to agree to united action (in particular 6 African states, and China); also that he will be in the US to meet Bush on Thursday, clear implication being discussing military action. Top brass military have apparently been in Downing St. what hasn't been on the news, but I'm not the only one noticing it, a couple of friends have said the same in other parts of the country, there's been lots more movement of military aircraft around here the last couple of days than would be normal."}, {"response": 438, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (17:46)", "body": "ITS HARD TO BELIEVE WE HAVE CRETINS LIKE THIS IN BUSINESS IN AMERICA People like what? People like one Bill Schrempf. He's the CEO of NCCI Holdings, Inc. in Boca Raton, Florida. NCCI is a company that compiles workers compensation insurance data. How exciting. They have about 850 employes in its Boca Raton offices. It seems that some of the NCCI employees are proud of their heritage and proud of their country. In the wake of the terrorist attack some of these NCCI employees decided that they wanted to display an American flag on their desks. At that point the dynamic Bill Schrempf swung into action. The orders went out to his managers and they immediately fanned out throughout the workplace confiscating the American flags. Schrempf, it seems, is afraid that some of the workers in the NCCI offices might find the display offensive. So, NCCI boss Bill Schrempf finds himself in the same rouges gallery as John Smeaton, the vice provost of student affairs at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. Smeaton ordered flags removed from campus busses for fear that foreign students might be (gasp!!!!) offended!!! The one difference between Lehigh and NCCI is that at Lehigh there was someone above Smeaton who actually possessed an ounce of sense and some feelings of patriotism. Smeaton's order was countered in minutes. At NCCI Schrempf is the boss! There IS nobody above him (unless the Board of Directors calls a quick meeting.) How's this for a workplace rule. Nobody works here who is offended by the American Flag. Period. If the American Flag offends you then you are a virtual cancer in this workplace. Pack your stuff and don't let the door knob hit you in the ass on your way out. Let me put it another way. If I have a flag on my desk and you try to confiscate it because you are offended -- then you have a damned good chance to be the subject of one of those statistical records that NCCI collects. DAMN -- this just pisses me off. Sorry, can't hide it. I wish I had the money to buy that company just so I could send Schrempf packing. Now -- it just happens that I don't have any need for a company that compiles workers compensation data. In the interest of all fairness -- since I have slammed Bill Schrempf and his company -- don't you think its only fair that I list the company name and phone number? I mean -- just in case you happen to agree with Bill Schrempf and would like to call and congratulate him! So, for that purpose only .... NCCI HOLDINGS INC 901 PENINSULA CORP CIR BOCA RATON, FL (561)893-1000 And here's a link to the story from the Palm Beach Post. http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/saturday/business_3.html ANY CONNECTION TO THIS NCCI? Last evening (Sunday) I spent a good amount of time trying to find an Internet site for NCCI. No luck. This caused me to expand my search and, with the help of a Nuze reader came with some interesting items. We found two websites this morning. One, ( http://www.ncci.com ) appears to be for the Palm Beach company. The other, ( http://www.ncci.sa.com/ ) is for the NCCI (National Corporation for Cooperative Insurance) that was established by Royal Decree No. M/5 of 17/4/1405H as a Saudi Joint Stock Company. That's right --- a corporation wholly owned by the government of Saudi Arabia. It seems this Saudi Arabian company is in the same business -- insurance. In searching both websites I could find no interlocking references. This doesn't mean no connection exists --- but the coincidence is somewhat amazing. Both with the \"NCCI\" in their name, both in the insurance business. I wonder who the stockholders of the Palm Beach company are?"}, {"response": 439, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (19:36)", "body": "Every possible resource has been posted on a special page by Google.com plus important contacts and news sources world wide. http://www.google.com/news/"}, {"response": 440, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (19:38)", "body": "This page is an excellent resource. I'm going to make it my home page."}, {"response": 441, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (20:10)", "body": "marcia, you may post the ribbon in all of our conferences--and terry, can we get it on our main page?"}, {"response": 442, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (21:38)", "body": "Sure thing!"}, {"response": 443, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:24)", "body": "Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lauren Weinstein Subject: The Big Picture? Cc: lauren@pfir.org \"You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride.\" -- Colossus \"Colossus: The Forbin Project\" (1970) \"There seems to be a definite pattern emerging.\" -- The Psychiatrist (G. Wood) \"Harold and Maude\" (1971) An interesting pattern does seem to be emerging. I do not suggest that it's the result of a conspiracy, but rather the result of long-term trends that have been self-reinforcing. Still, like the images in a kaleidoscope, complex-appearing structures can seem to easily appear from independent actions. We start with media consolidation on a grand scale. The range of content providers and distribution operations -- TV, cable, newspapers, magazine, Internet, and so on, are primarily in the hands of a tiny cadre of gigantic firms. This consolidation seems likely to continue to even more intense levels. Such concentration of media power provides the ability to present a highly unified message both to the population at large and to Congress through lobbyists. A slogan like CNN's \"America's New War\" can be applied across a range of related properties and environments, instead of merely being sandwiched between \"EnerX\" commercials. Next step: Institute a mindset and legal structure that marginalizes all rights to information except those of copyright holders (most of the widely-used content will be under the control of those few media conglomerates we discussed above, of course). The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) helps enormously at this stage to accomplish this goal. Send violators to prison along with the rapists, murderers, and terrorists. Finally, a way to fill those jail cells being emptied out in California from the new \"treat drug offenders rather than jail them\" program. Gotta keep the momentum going. Outlaw the sale or providing of *everything* --hardware, software, communications, impure thoughts, or what have you-- relating to digital technologies that cannot be directly controlled by those concentrated media forces. The SSSCA (Security Systems Standards and Certification Act) should do nicely. To sweeten the deal, point out that since only SSSCA-approved security systems would be legal, it could provide a dandy mechanism to make the use of strong encryption in the private sector illicit. All that's needed is to ensure that such strong crypto systems are not compatible with the SSSCA-approved mechanisms (or refuse to certify anything that contains those undesirable systems). The approved security system will of course contain the appropriate backdoors for data access by the powers-that-be (and sufficiently resourceful hackers). The level of civil disobedience likely to result will probably be the highest since prohibition, but hey, prohibition didn't have any nasty side-effects that weren't trivial to control, right? And to tie this all up in a nice neat bow, be ready to take advantage of any catastrophe, tragedy, or horror to assert your agenda while emotions run high and knee-jerk reactions are the order of the day. Voila! Mission accomplished. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren@pfir.org or lauren@vortex.com or lauren@privacyforum.org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy \"Reality Reset\" Columns - http://www.vortex.com/reality"}, {"response": 444, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:25)", "body": "Subject: [risks] Risks Digest 21.66 Date: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:13 PM From: RISKS List Owner Reply-To: risko@csl.sri.com To: RISKS-LIST: Risks-Forum Digest Monday 17 September 2001 Volume 21 : Issue 66 FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS (comp.risks) ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy, Peter G. Neumann, moderator ***** See last item for further information, disclaimers, caveats, etc. ***** This issue is archived at and by anonymous ftp at ftp.sri.com, cd risks . Contents: 11 September 2001 in retrospect (PGN) Abridged info on RISKS (comp.risks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:27:43 PDT From: \"Peter G. Neumann\" Subject: 11 September 2001 in retrospect *********************************** *********************************** ** 11 September 2001 ** *********************************** *********************************** \"THE RISKS ARE OBVIOUS.\" BUT PERHAPS NOT OBVIOUS ENOUGH. 11 September 2001 will be painfully remembered by most of the planet's population for the coordinated hijacking of four jetliners and the ensuing surprise attacks on New York City's World Trade Center and the Pentagon, with thousands of lives lost and enormous consequential after-effects. Our hearts go out to everyone close to those who were so irrevocably affected -- including the crash victims, the firemen and other emergency workers in New York City, and especially the UA93 passengers whose efforts evidently saved the lives of others. We are once again reminded how fragile our lives and civic infrastructures are, and how interdependent we all are. Although violent and sudden large-scale termination of people's lives has previously been all too familiar in many countries of the world, many of us have hitherto largely taken too much for granted. Hopefully, the aftermath of this fateful day will dramatically increase public awareness of some of the vulnerabilities in our lives and risks to our freedom. However, the events should come as no surprise, because many warnings have been widely ignored. For example, the President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection of the previous U.S. Administration identified serious vulnerabilities in telecommunications, electric power and other energy sources, transportation, financial services, emergency services, and government continuity. It noted how interdependent these critical infrastructures are, and how they are all related to information technologies. It also observed difficulties in coordination among and within different infrastructures, and perhaps most relevant, a general lack of public awareness. In many respects, complacency has been seen across the board in response to that report. In addition, the White House Commission on Safety and Security (the Gore Commission) identified many serious risks in aviation. (Also, see my paper , presented at the January 1997 International Conference on Aviation Safety and Security, co-sponsored by that commission and George Washington University.) Various analyses of commercial aviation and air-traffic control over the past 18 years within the Department of Transportation have identified potentially serious vulnerabilities that merit closer attention. More recently, a U.S. General Accounting Office report identified many serious problems in airport security. But, perhaps because the risks and threat levels seemed low, or possibly because institutional bureaucracy is so deeply entrenched, very little action was deemed necessary. Unfortunately, some of the issues recognized therein have now come home to roost. As a society, we in the U.S. seem to be unwilling to take certain prudent precautions -- perhaps because they would cost too much, or be too inconvenient, or would seriously degrade service. Apparently, we suffer from a serious lack of foresight. The Risks Forum has persistently considered risks associated with our technologies and their uses, but we often note that many of the crises and other risk-related problems have resulted from low-tech events, misguided human behavior, or malicious misbehavior. In short, the typical search for high-tech solutions to problems stemming from social, economic, and geopolitical causes has frequently ignored more basic issues. Over-endowing high-tech solutions is riskful in the absence of adequate understanding of the limitations of the technology and the frailties and perversities of human nature. Whereas there are high-tech solutions that might be effective if properly used, we should also be examining some low-tech and no-tech approaches. One pervasive theme in the Risks Forum over the past 16 years has been the ubiquity of systemic vulnerabilities relating to security, reliability, availability, and overall survivability, with respect to human enterprises, society at large, and to systems, applications, and enterprises based on information technologies. Evidently, we still have much to learn. Le"}, {"response": 445, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:26)", "body": "Subject: To the day Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:07 AM From: Womack, Jack As I start to write this, I look at my watch and realize that one week ago, just now, I'd just seen the first tower go down. Here in the new world it seems like a year, two years, a hundred years. Time has taken on a rubbery quality. Toward the end of Burn's The Civil War documentary, years ago, there was a single phrase read aloud; written by either a Yankee or Confederate some time after the war, thinking back on his experience, and I keep hearing it in my head: \"Were these things real?\" Even as I go through each day, so much of it still refuses to settle into anything remotely resembling reality. Last night we watched Letterman, who was on for the first time after the late news, and it was extremely strange, and vaguely unsettling. He didn't make any jokes, of course, but this most hard-shelled of all contemporary performers revealed depths of sadness, and fear, and uncertainty, and anger; and then Dan Rather came out as his guest and broke down in tears twice. Extremely unreal. Yet, on the other hand, V & I went over to Jersey City late yesterday afternoon to have dinner with her mother and celebrate the new year (praying, as every year, to have one more year). While I expected huge backups at the bus terminal, we somehow managed to hit it right, and got from Port Authority to Summit Ave. in Jersey City in half an hour. On the way, as we went up Palisades Avenue, which runs along the top of the Palisades (which, in this area, are utterly urbanized) and so I saw all of lower Manhattan from the Jersey side, and the absence of the Towers, and the smoke that continues to rise therefrom. That, conversely, now seemed normal. Valeria's mother, who is 68, was extremely happy to see us. Jersey City has a large Arab population (and Indian, and Phillipine, and...) and she was more than usually suspicious -- relating stories of how two had been arrested (I have heard this on the news as well), etc. She's holding up very well, though; of course, this is a woman who grew up in Soviet Russia during the Second World War, and under Stalin, and didn't leave the USSR until 1981, so she's had considerable experience, living life under conditions that are only now beginning to become imaginable. Besides the absence of the Towers from a distance there are many things that are beginning to seem normal to me now. Leaving the house fifteen minutes earlier because my subway now becomes express at 96th, and therefore no longer stops at 50th (unless I transfer). Seeing at least one policeman at every subway station, and many more at the larger stations. Hearing, along with the occasional airplane (I gather airports are becoming rather ghostly, at present), the occasional F-16. Phone service, especially long-distance & cellular, that comes and goes. Police barricades along Fifth, metal barriers at the Channel Gardens at Rockefeller Center, the sight of US flags everywhere, attached to car aerials, hanging from windows, photocopied and taped onto doors. The occasional Army humvee parked on Broadway. New York crowds, thinned out to a level I haven't seen since the late 70s and early 80s, when no one wanted to come to NY on a bet, save for the likes of me and my people. I'd recommend the new New Yorker. The cover is by Spiegelman, and brilliant. In the News, this morning, an article about NY's Afghan restaurants, and how no one is eating at them, and how they're quickly going to go broke; the people who run them are, of course, in nearly all cases immigrants who came here to escape the war during the 80s, or the Taliban since. And the new total of people still missing is a little over 5,400 -- evidently the additional 700 weren't reported until yesterday; I imagine many relatives, companies, etc., were still holding out hope. A friend in Australia has told me 100 Aussies have been killed; a friend in Germany says anywhere up to 200-some Germans were killed; and of course 500 Brits. 100 Russians. And U.S. citizens who, being New Yorkers, were of every possible background, every color and creed. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus.. An attack on Civilization, period. I need to talk to my father again tonight, to see how he is doing. Two weeks ago, tomorrow, my stepmother suddenly died, as you and some others know (she was 52). Her funeral was September 8, and then 3 days later...thoughts of her vanished from my mind, mostly, since last Tuesday, and that makes me feel sad, but even so I can only move forward. I know I didn't come close to processing her death, but at some point I suppose I will -- or maybe I already have, in this new world. I honestly don't know. I'm not as scared today as I was yesterday. I can't imagine this will last; today is Ros Ha'shanah, NY is quiet yet again -- this time, for better reason then has recently been the case -- and, clearly, something is in the air. But I don't know what, and until that something occurs, I can only do wha"}, {"response": 446, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:27)", "body": "*Arthur Kroker Vents His Feelings With Such Untoward Eloquence That They Threaten To Make Common Sense *8-/ Subject: Event-scene 97 - Terrorism of Viral Power Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:18 PM From: CTHEORY EDITORS Reply-To: CTHEORY EDITORS To: _____________________________________________________________________ CTHEORY THEORY, TECHNOLOGY AND CULTURE VOL 24, NO 3 Event-scene 97 09/18/01 Editors: Arthur and Marilouise Kroker _____________________________________________________________________ Terrorism of Viral Power ======================== ~Arthur and Marilouise Kroker~ The 20th century took place under the sign of nuclear superpower: a cold war with bloc to bloc political confrontations; a military rhetoric of graduated escalating respnses; a strangely comforting illusion of \"mutually assured destruction.\" Deterrence was everywhere. Dissuasion was the code. A bored culture living in the shadowland of apocalypse now. That ended September 11th. The field of power flipped. The triumphant era of the last superpower suddenly gave way to the contagious logic of viral power. In place of the certainty principle of nuclear stalemate, there emerges now the radical uncertainty of the terrorism of micro-power. The always suspended fantaticism of technological holocaust is challenged by the fanaticism of religious zealotry. The logic of deterrence no longer functions. Deterrrence only works in a deadly game in which adversaries have a primary interest in preserving their own lives. Sacrificing one's own life is the first gambit, and real psychological fuel of suicide commandos. Dissuasion is inoperative. Again, the code of dissuasion is intimately linked to a politics founded on preserving territory. However, viral power is terroristic precisely because it occupies only the imaginary territory of symbolic exchange. The religious ecstasy of a sudden, unexpected, devastating strike against the symbolic capital of the American empire: the trinity of the World Trade Center, Pentagon and the airlines of America. The terrorism of the new age of viral power has these symbolic qualities: It is a micro-power, not a superpower. It is low tech, not high tech--and thus invisible to the optical scanners of the ruling technological regime. Paradoxically, the (technological) weakness of viral power is its strength. It is subterranean, secretive--driven by a crusading spirit equal to the religious zeal of the Middle Ages. Breaking the rules of publicity culture, it claims no responsibility and thus speaks clearly to the cultural imagination of the suppressed and powerless everywhere. It is a matter of biological violence, not physics. Flowing invisibly through the rhetorical screen of the 'anti-ballistic missile system,' viral power adopts the strategy of the attacking parasite: invading the body of the host (the American homeland), bleeding its tactical intelligence (those flight schools in Florida), circulating in its commercial bloodstream (American airlines), and imploding in a violent fatal metastasis that has as its aim the infiltration of the mediascape through its apocalyptic effects. Viral power avoids conflict with the real military assests of the host nation because its actual intention is a strategic media strike. Viral power is understandable only in the language of the media: the twin spectacles of sadness and terror; the doubled language of fascination and dread. In the days ahead, the media spectacle will shift to the viral language of rage and revenge. Tragically, the real missiles were those American people taken hostage in the air. The real targets were not hardened missile silos, but the dominant symbols of American power. The real terrorism was the destabilization of the American government. The real war is the coming war on civil liberties as the price for combating terrorism. The real 'ground zero' was provoking America to acts of vengeance that will only fast-feed the future rage of viral power. The scenario of terrorism, then, as a mutating virus that copies itself to American rage on its way to revenge against the host-scapegoat. Viral power goes into the sea, the sky, the earth. It cannot be defeated by the normal methods of nuclear warfare. It can only be copied. The virus of terrorism is about to enter the American bloodstream, taking democracy hostage. Listen to House of Representatives Minority Leader Richard Gephardt: \"We are in a new world. We have to rebalance freedom and security. We can't take away people's civil liberties. But we're not going to have all the openness and freedom we have had.\" The implosion of American democracy, then, as the ultimate objective of the suicide commandos. The 'war on terrorism' may have finally begun, but the first casualty may well be American freedom as it was envisioned before September 11, 2001. _____________________________________________________________________ Arthur and Marilouise Kroker are the editors of CTHEORY."}, {"response": 447, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:27)", "body": "From: Stewart Brand Subject: not-terrorism Dave, the following set of thoughts is from Kevin Kelly, who spent four months in Afghanistan in the late 70s, more months in northern Pakistan, and a long time in Iran (during its revolution). I think its balanced inquiry might be of interest to IPers. --Stewart Brand The Taliban are kind of like Nazis to the Afghanis, but we should remember that while the Nazis had resistance and passive obedience among the Germans, they also had supporters. And so do the Taliban. But it's true most of the Afghanis, like the Germans, are just getting screwed. The other important point is the the Taliban are not bin Laden, and bin Laden not the Taliban. Bin Laden is a foreigner who is barely tolerated by most rural Afghanis, since the Afghanis are very xenophobic. I think bin Laden is far more sophisticated, complex, and cosmopolitan than the Taliban. Few Taliban have ever left their home province. Bin Laden is a world savvy. For another thing, he is brilliantly creative, and known among his supporters as 'imaginative.\" You can't say that about the Taliban. HIs idea of using American know-how to bomb itself, using no resources of his own, is sheer genius. He is one of the few Islamics to bridge the great cultural gulf between and among the Arabs. Remember that the Afghanis are NOT Arabs. They are Caucasians, their language is \"Indo-European\" and they are culturally Persians. The Afghanis don't even like Arabs. Yet bin Laden is able to speak to and appeal to them as well as North Africans, Lebonese, Egyptians, Iraquis, Palestinians, Iranians, Pakistanis, Kashmiris -- which is simply remarkable. More so, he has bridge the religious differences among the Muslims, although he still has a way to go. Just getting Shiite and Suni Muslims in the same room is itself a remarkable achievement. That fact that bin Laden appeals to married, 43-year old residents of America with pilot licenses willing to give their lives, says to me there is something large and non-marginal about this. Bin Laden may be Hitler, but it does no good to think of Hitler, or bin Laden, as \"fringe\" or even as a terrorist. This is a main stream, middle of the road skirmish. Radical Islam will become the new communism, if it isn't that already. It has a deep appeal, even to those subjugated to it. There are aspects about that even supporters don't like and can't stand, but they will submit to it because they believe it is better overall than the alternative of \"western capitalism.\" And like communism it will be very hard to eradicate it, should we attempt to. The Arab countries we are now asking to take sides, will probably take sides with us, but this will kill and maim them because they are essentially taking sides against many of their own citizens, who may be better organized and committed than the government itself. The key question for me is: will this revolutionary style -- a sort of mafia, suicidal, networked, globally guerilla insurgency -- be imported by other non-muslim radicals? Will bin Laden become the Che Guevera of this century? Will the resident antipathy towards America in other spheres be cast in the same style. Will all anti-global-capitalism become clones of bin Laden? Like communism this can spread. And like communism I think its a very bad idea in practice, though it sounds good in theory. So I am in favor of halting it, and I believe that it needs to be combatted early and often. But the danger of radical Islam becoming the new communism is that anyone who is not against them becomes branded a communist, or \"terrorist,\" themselves. That worries me because I am not so eager to label bin Laden a \"tinpot terrorist.\" He is not second rate, and he may not even be a terrorist. This is a new kind of war. There has been no demands made, like in most terrorism. There is nothing we have that they want. Their intent is not to terrorize. This is only a side product. Their intent is to destroy the prevailing mono-system. But they are not a state government, but a pan-national network that is growing. We've done little to eradicate them in 20 years. They are stronger now then ever before. At first I thought that the World Trade airbombing would need to be followed through by another attack to have lasting meaning, but as the depth and sophistication of the network of the radicals is revealed I think we have already reached a critical moment. I think we need a new framework for understanding them. I would ban the use of the words \"terrorists\" and \"terrorism.\" A better old word is \"revolutionary.\" Our chief concern should be that there is nothing we have they want. They don't want recognition. They don't want our trade. They don't want our culture. They don't want our aspirations -- democracy, free choice, high technology. They don't want our values. They don't want our wealth. Actually, they would like our literacy (for males) and health care, but that is not enough. I think we need to enlarge western civilizati"}, {"response": 448, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:28)", "body": "Suicide terrorism: a global threat Traditionally viewed as a problem affecting the Middle East and South Asia, the threat posed by suicide terrorism is spreading around the globe. Rohan Gunaratna assesses the nature of the threat, preventive and reactive security measures, and examines future trends. (...) The threat Suicide terrorism is the readiness to sacrifice one's life in the process of destroying or attempting to destroy a target to advance a political goal. The aim of the psychologically and physically war-trained terrorist is to die while destroying the enemy target. In the 1980s suicide terrorism was witnessed in Lebanon, Kuwait and Sri Lanka. In the 1990s it had spread to Israel, India, Panama, Algeria, Pakistan, Argentina, Croatia, Turkey, Tanzania and Kenya. With enhanced migration of terrorist groups from conflict-ridden countries, the formation of extensive international terrorist infrastructures and the increased reach of terrorist groups in the post Cold War period, suicide terrorism is likely to affect Western Europe and North America in the foreseeable future. There are now 10 religious and secular terrorist groups that are capable of using suicide terrorism as a tactic against their governments and/or foreign governments. They are: the Islam Resistance Movement (Hamas) and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad of the Israeli occupied territories; Hizbullah of Lebanon; the Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) and Gamaya Islamiya (Islamic Group - IG) of Egypt; the Armed Islamic Group (GIA) of Algeria; Barbar Khalsa International (BKI) of India; the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) of Sri Lanka; the Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK) of Turkey; and the Osama bin Laden network (Al Quaida) of Afghanistan. There were also four pro-Syrian, Lebanese and Syrian political parties engaged in suicide terrorism in the 1980s, but they are currently inactive in the terrorist front. These groups staged around 25 suicide attacks in Lebanon. As more than one group claimed some of the attacks, perhaps to diffuse the threat to the group, it is difficult to identify the group responsible. The groups engaged in suicide operations in Lebanon alongside Hizbullah were the Natzersit Socialist Party of Syria; the Syrian Nationalist Party; the Lebanese Communist Party; and the Baath Party of Lebanon. There are two types of suicide operations: battlefield and off the battlefield. In battlefield operations, suicide bombers are integrated into the attacking groups. Most off-the-battlefield operations have involved single suicide bombers. In the case of the LTTE and Hamas, there have been multiple suicide bombers. The targets have been static and mobile, against infrastructure and humans. Suicide bombers have destroyed military, political, economic and cultural infrastructure. They have committed terrorist attacks by killing civilians in buses, crowded places and in buildings. Suicide bombers have also assassinated political and military VIPs. Key characteristics Examination of suicide terrorism across a range of groups has revealed that terrorist groups use suicide bombers when they are both strong and weak. In terms of military and economic power, Hizbullah and the LTTE lead the list of suicide operations. In terms of numbers, the LTTE has conducted the largest volume of suicide operations, followed by Hizbullah, Hamas and the PKK. In terms of range, only some of the groups have operated beyond their territories. As well as abortive attempts to conduct suicide operations in Israel, Hizbullah has successfully conducted suicide operations in Argentina. The LTTE has conducted one suicide operation in India. It is the only group to have killed two world leaders - the former prime minister of India, Rajiv Gandhi, and the president of Sri Lanka, Ranasinghe Premadasa - using male and female suicide bombers. The Egyptian groups have conducted suicide operations in Croatia against a police station and in Pakistan against the Egyptian embassy. Al-Qaeda used at least one Egyptian suicide bomber in the 1998 East African embassy bombings. All the other active groups have conducted suicide operations within their own territory. The PKK has threatened to conduct suicide operations in Germany where there is a large Kurdish diaspora. All the suicide terrorist groups have support infrastructures in Europe and in North America. Leaders and members of these groups are known to travel to the West, and key activists live either in Europe or in North America distributing propaganda, raising funds, and in some instances procuring weapons and shipping them to the various theatres of conflict. Suicide-capable groups differ in form, size, orientation, goal and support. A review of the key characteristics of the 10 suicide-capable groups reveals that any group can acquire suicide bomb technology and engage in suicide terrorism: a Al-Qaeda is a mix of several associate groups that are internationally dispersed. From Afghanistan, Bin Laden provides the overal"}, {"response": 449, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:29)", "body": "Below is a list of STICTLY FORBIDDEN items to be carried on board the cabin of any BA flight. DRS pages are being updated individually, but you can use this as a guideline when informing clients. Most are for obvious reasons, but something most of us never thought of previously. * Toy or replica guns (plastic or metal) * Household cutlery * Knives with blades of any length (including steel nail files) * Paper knives * Razor blades (shaving or other) * Tradesmen's tools * Darts * Scissors of any size * Hypodermic syringes* * Knitting needles * Sporting bats (including rackets, cricket bats and golf clubs) * Billiard, snooker, or pool cues * Catapults (slingshots) * Corkscrews with blades attached *Customers who require the use of hypodermic needles for medical reasons (for example, diabetics and customers with allergies), will be asked for proof of medical need. Please be advised that customers carrying any of the above items (with the exception of hypodermic needles) will be asked to place it in their hold baggage. Customers carrying hand baggage only will be asked to surrender the item for disposal."}, {"response": 450, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:36)", "body": "Breakdown of people who are missing and presumed dead by nationality (per Reuters): Australia 78 Bangladesh 50 Brazil 30 Britain 300 Canada 78 China 53 Columbia 199 Ecuador 34 Egypt 4 El Salvador 73 Finland 50 Germany 104 Honduras 1 Indonesia 16 Ireland 103 Italy 5 Japan 24 Lebanon 3 Mexico 166 Philippines 435 Russia 100 South Africa 25 South Korea 18 Switzerland 288 Thailand 3 The remainder are Americans."}, {"response": 451, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:36)", "body": "Link for the Reuters casualties by nationality figures above: http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20010918/wtc_casualties_graphic.gif The original source of the numbers is FEMA as of 9/17."}, {"response": 452, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 18, 2001 (22:44)", "body": "I hope not, but here's the rumor: http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAGB8LISRC.html Relevant section: \"Authorities have grown increasingly certain - from intelligence intercepts, witness interviews and evidence gathered in hijackers' cars and homes - that a second wave of violence was planned by collaborators. They said Sept. 22 has emerged as an important date in the evidence, but declined to be more specific. Tuesday's attacks were \"part of a larger plan with other terrorism acts, not necessarily hijacking of airplanes,\" said Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. \"Those acts were going to occur in the United States and elsewhere in the world.\" The FBI said it has issued an advisory to fire departments across the country to increase security and guard against the theft of any ambulances or fire trucks, which could be used in bombing attacks. The bureau said the warning was precautionary. \" For more on your air travel safety, go to this site and read ALPA Security Alert Bulletin 2001-2, detailing such important items as the use of the emergency axe in the cockpit against suicidal hi-jackers and planning for emergency depressurizations and violent aircraft maneuvers to disable and disorient hi-jackers: http://www.awalpa.org/"}, {"response": 453, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (03:12)", "body": "World Leaders List Conditions on Cooperation New York Times September 19, 2001 by PATRICK E. TYLER and JANE PERLEZ (Excerpt) WASHINGTON, Sept. 18 \ufffd After a week of unconditional support from abroad, the Bush administration confronted its first significant difficulties today in building a broad international coalition to support using military power and other means against a still-faceless terror network rooted in Afghanistan and elsewhere. A procession of world leaders was either on the way or on the phone to Washington seeking to convince the White House that only a multilateral approach based on consultation, hard evidence and United Nations support would justify the use of military power in response to the devastating attacks last week. Today, President Jiang Zemin of China telephoned Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain and President Jacques Chirac of France as each prepared for meetings with President Bush. He admonished his Western counterparts to tell Mr. Bush that \"any military action against terrorism\" should be based on \"irrefutable evidence and should aim at clear targets so as to avoid casualties to innocent people,\" according to official news reports from China. Mr. Jiang also telephoned President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, and although the two leaders denounced \"terrorism in all its forms,\" they spoke just of cooperating with each other and the United Nations to \"develop a mechanism for fighting terrorism,\" the reports said. As the Bush administration sought through White House consultations and overseas missions to strengthen the sinews of an antiterror effort whose scale and objective remain unknown, a number of countries began to calculate the potential cost of their taking part, and to try to exact a price for it from the United States. For a number of Middle Eastern countries, the price was straightforward. The United States has to become more deeply involved in ending the violence and in reinvigorating the Israeli-Palestinian peace effort. But it was clear that a convulsion in Israel, the West Bank or Gaza could threaten Washington's efforts to maintain support in moderate Arab countries, a problem that Mr. Bush's father faced in the 1991 coalition that defeated Iraq in Kuwait. \"The people that we expect to work with closely in combating terrorism,\" a spokesman for the State Department, Richard A. Boucher, said, are \"interested in the Israel- Palestinian situation,\" and their attitudes toward America's war on terrorism are \"linked in people's minds\" to America's commitment to Arab-Israeli peace. Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal of Saudi Arabia, is due to arrive on Wednesday with a large contingent of Saudi intelligence officers and their files on Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda network. But other potential American allies raised urgent economic and political agendas that officials said Washington was beginning to address. Pakistan, in exchange for whatever bases or rights to fly in its air space that it provides, would like an agreement to end 11 years of sanctions, to restore the flow of American arms and to reduce a punishing debt load. Russia, if it is called on, has a clear set of grievances over NATO expansion toward its borders and criticism of its military campaign in Chechnya. Foreign Minister Igor D. Ivanov arrives on Wednesday. Administration officials said they were eager to establish Moscow's price to open the northern corridor to Afghanistan through Tajikistan, a former Soviet republic. A number of Russian generals have questioned whether Russia could join an American-led antiterror campaign whose operational objectives remain unclear. One high- ranking military officer told a newspaper, Vremya Novestei, that \"fighting terrorists is like trying to rid oneself of roaches in a block of flats.\" \"You do it in one flat,\" the officer said, \"and they go to another.\" Nowhere was the sense of alarm over American plans more apparent than in the warning of one of America's staunchest Middle East allies, President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt. In remarks broadcast on Monday night, he implored the United States not to undertake military action that might kill innocent civilians, divide Christians against Muslims and further inflame attitudes against American policy in the region. Mr. Mubarak, like Mr. Jiang, urged that \"hard evidence\" be the basis for any military action and that \"countries not be punished\" for the actions of \"individuals.\" He called on the United Nations to organize an international convention against terrorism that would develop a common program of action for all countries. His remarks were echoed by other leaders in the region where Washington has yet to establish a firm diplomatic beachhead in dealing with intractable and volatile conflicts. While Egypt and Jordan were both crucial allies in the 1991 coalition against President Saddam Hussein of Iraq, diplomats from both countries said they did not expect to be called on to provide bases or other direct military support."}, {"response": 454, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (03:17)", "body": "Hi all MSG 436 sums up just about every country capable of providing aid bar New Zealand. Do we not exist? Last I looked 3.81 million New Zealanders, 46 million sheep as well as Kiwis, Takahe's Pukeko's Kaka, Kereru, among other birds, reptiles, fish, spiders and insects can be found on two large islands and a host of smaller islands grouped together under the popular name \"Godzone\". On to more relevant matters though. New Zealand has offered intelligence assistance but nothing else as we seem to be preoccupied with Air New Zealands struggle to stay afloat and the fact that our armed forces have been degraded so badly that the East Timor peace keeping operation is about as far as we would get anyway. We could have offered more if so much money was not being lost in ideological changes to governing structures for everything everytime Labour and National swapped places in the Beehive. I mean ideally we could have bought the 28 F-16s the United States was prepared to give us but Helen Clark's excuse was they have never been used so why keep them? So what if they were not used, having them meant our servicemen were technically competent, that we could participate in defence exercises and have a small but modern air combat force. We could have gotten one or two frigates that Labour was talking about but I suspect they sold out to the Greens. Typical. So here we are with a poorly equipped airforce that just lost the \"force\", and a downsized Navy. Great. Rob"}, {"response": 455, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (08:20)", "body": "(Rachael) what hasn't been on the news, but I'm not the only one noticing it, a couple of friends have said the same in other parts of the country, there's been lots more movement of military aircraft around here the last couple of days than would be normal. It's the same over here. The skies over the greater DC area are humming."}, {"response": 456, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (08:55)", "body": "Thanks for the lengthy list of positions by country, Suzee. Everybody, time to put those tax refunds back in the mail to Washington. It's going to cost us jillions to *morally* convince some of these countries. :-("}, {"response": 457, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (09:28)", "body": "Tamim Ansar (cited above) is supposed to be on Charlie Rose sometime and was on NPR being interviewed by Bill Moyers the other night. Pat Holt has a piece on him http://www.holtuncensored.com/members/index.html Robert McNeil who left the Newshour in 95 has come out of retirement to help with their coverage. His first interview was today http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/foreign_correspondence/july - dec01/terrorism_9-18.html dec01/terrorism_9-18.html> One exchange: ROBERT MACNEIL: Steve Erlanger, how is Mr. Bush's leadership and his rhetoric perceived where you are, in Germany? STEVE ERLANGER: A little worrying, quite honestly. People are being very polite, but they see, often, the kind of terror in Mr. Bush's eyes when he goes off of his script. They worry he will feel too much political pressure to react too soon and in the wrong way. They are hopeful that he will listen to his senior advisers, and they think that he will, and they have a little bit of odd relief, almost, that for an administration that, so far, has regarded relations with Europe as very much secondary, if not tertiary, it is now discovering that, as usual, in a crisis America's best friends are on this continent."}, {"response": 458, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (09:56)", "body": "Robin McNeil interviewed four overseas New York Times bureau chiefs. McNeil: Can I ask each of you how Washington's leadership and behavior is perceived where you are? Warren Hoge, after the first wave of solidarity and sympathy [the British bureau chief had said the British felt particularly targeted by the attack, with some 300 UK citizens probably dead], which was so apparent in western Europe, and particularly in Britain, where the queen led a service in St. Paul's-- You've all reported some degree of second thoughts, backpedaling, a little--voices of caution raised. How has that been affected by Mr. Bush's leadership, his rhetoric, the actions he's taken so far. Does that inspire confidence and reassurance? Hoge, NYT London Bureau Chief: I think Colin Powell inspires more confidence. Many Britons have said to me they feel much more comfortable with George W. Bush now that Colin Powell seems to be permanently at his side. Colin Powell speaks the language of diplomacy; he is somebody who understands both the capabilities and the limitations of military power-- this is what the British think. So they have a much higher degree of comfort with his kind of talking than the more bellicose language of President Bush. So, they're hoping for Bush, they're behind Bush--this is a very pro-American place in Europe--but there's a little bit of worry that he's untested, and also that he's surrounded by some other people who might have a little more hotheaded reaction to what must be done now than Colin Powell seems to be having. McNeil: And Steve Erlanger, how is Mr. Bush's leadership and his rhetoric perceived where you are, in Germany? Erlanger, NYT Hamburg Bureau Chief: A little worrying, quite honestly. People are being very polite. But they see, often, the kind of terror in Mr. Bush's eyes when he goes off of his script. They worry that he will feel too much political pressure to react too soon, and in the wrong way. They are hopeful that he will listen to his senior advisors, and they think that he will. And they have a little bit of odd relief, almost, that for an administration that so far has regarded relations with Europe as very much secondary, if not tertiary--it is now discovering that as usual, in a crisis, America's best friends are on this continent. McNeil: And in Moscow, Michael Wines, how is the Washington leadership under Mr. Bush perceived? Wines, NYT Moscow Bureau Chief: Well, I think that there has been a great deal of uneasiness with the unilateralism that the Russians think that the United States has displayed, mostly in the last year, but again going back to Yugoslavia. And I think in this case there is great hope, among, certainly among Russian people, and among the leadership, that this will turn out to be something of a turning point in American-Russian relations: a chance for the Americans to consult with the Russians in reality, for a change. The Russians here feel like they're somewhat ignored in national relations. And so they're hoping for a much more cooperative attitude. But, I have to say, so far, there's great suspicion, and I think they're waiting for the Americans to come up with a plan. And when they see that plan, I think they'll have a better idea. McNeil: And in Cairo, Neil McFarquhar, how is Mr. Bush's leadership perceived there? McFarquhar, NYT Cairo Bureau Chief: Across the Middle East the one exception in this thing has been Iraq, which has been attacking the United States, what it calls its \"cowboy policies\". But the one thing that's upset the Arabs is, apparently, in one speech Mr. Bush used the words \"crusades\", and that word is fraught with a lot of terrible memories in the Middle East, because of course the Crusades were used to attack the region. So there has been a lot of discussion, that if this is a new Crusade, they don't want to be part of it"}, {"response": 459, "author": "Moon", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (10:08)", "body": "I couldn't believe Bush used the words crusade! Reminiscent of Dan Quayle there. Thanks for the lengthy list of positions by country, Suzee. Everybody, time to put those tax refunds back in the mail to Washington. It's going to cost us jillions to *morally* convince some of these countries. :-( Yes, Thank you Suzee. The U$ barganing table is open and the odd thing is that the price of gold is not reacting. Is there a conspiracy to keep the price of gold stable? What is going on there? My very good friend lost a friend on the Fl#11 and my brother has many friends that are missing at WTC. And now we are told that Sept. 22nd is a date to watch out for. :-( I do not sleep well at night."}, {"response": 460, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (16:57)", "body": "A Washington Post article on the threat of bio-terrorism: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41225-2001Sep16.html"}, {"response": 461, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (16:58)", "body": "Wolfie, I tried, and since I am not listed on your other conferences as having access, I could not add them. I did put it on SpringArk. I like the ribbon on that Google.com site, too. I wish it lead back to that site and I would install it in a second. Terry, the programming in my cfconfig file is easy enough to copy and paste. Have at it!!"}, {"response": 462, "author": "Echo", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (17:00)", "body": "Breakdown of people who are missing and presumed dead by nationality (per Reuters) Does that include confirmed dead? A young Polish woman journalist died there, too, on her honeymoon. Her husband is fighting for his life in a NY hospital."}, {"response": 463, "author": "Echo", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (17:03)", "body": "on the threat of bio-terrorism The unexplained, mysteriously spreading and still not defeated outbreak of foot and mouth in the UK may be a testing ground."}, {"response": 464, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (17:06)", "body": "http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,552749,00.html Comprehensive and unreported in US news sources."}, {"response": 465, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (18:09)", "body": "As for Afghanistan, check out: http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/2001/June/Afghan/index.html for a brilliant description of that country by an Iranian film make"}, {"response": 466, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (18:50)", "body": "Why? from The Independent (London), by Robert Fisk, 8/29/01: http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=91066 and again, eighteen days later, 9/16/01: http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=94254"}, {"response": 467, "author": "rachael", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (18:57)", "body": "interesting to read what Warren Hoge said - I think its fair comment; have to say, one of the things that impressed me in the first few days was the way that very senior people seemed to make themselves available for lengthy and open press conferences - I'm not sure you'd see that here (in the UK). And yes I'm impressed with Colin Powell - the fact that he has such experience makes him seem very reassuring - don't know if Americans feel the same. for info (mainly to UK people) today's paper hads a full page ad for the World Trade Centre Disaster Fund www.wtcfund.org.uk and says \"This is an hour of need for our friends in America. Let's show them that our actions are as loud as our words\" If you're not already a Red Cross contributor, the website might be worth a visit. One of the saddest things I read today was about the families of some of the British victims flying into NYC, and my heart goes out to all those of whatever nationality who are dealing with this unimaginable heartbreak. My 12 y o was in NYC with her father a couple of months ago, and has been very distressed this week - tonight she said \"I can't believe that something I've seen that was so big and amazing just isn't there now\"."}, {"response": 468, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (19:10)", "body": "There is a quote in this weeks edition of Newsweek by a Wall St employee \" I never thought I'd see the day when the World Trade Center would pass me by in a dump truck \" It's funny in a sad, sad, kind of a way. AOL is reporting that the actor James Woods was on Flight 11 Boston to LA on Sep 4th, the same one that crashed, a week later. He was in first class with only 4 other passengers. They were all Arabs. They spoke to no one, ate nothing, drank nothing, read nothing and watched no movies. He said they all just sat in their seats starring off into space. It creeped him out, so he mentioned it to a stewardess. She shrugged if off, but when they got to LA, he reported it to the FBI. The FBI in LA are confirming this. So it looks like they did a \"test run\" the week before."}, {"response": 469, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (19:28)", "body": "Peggy Noonan writes about how \"we live in such unprecedented comfort! But can it last!\" http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=95001157 During the summer, when you were a kid, your dad worked a few towns away and left at 8:30; Mom stayed home smoking and talking and ironing. You biked to the local school yard for summer activities--twirling, lanyard making, dodgeball--until afternoon. Then you'd go home and play in the street. At 5:30 Dad was home and at 6 there was dinner--meat loaf, mashed potatoes and canned corn. Then TV and lights out. Now it's more like this: Dad goes to work at 6:15, to the city, where he is an executive; Mom goes to work at the bank where she's a vice president, but not before giving the sitter the keys and bundling the kids into the car to go to, respectively, soccer camp, arts camp, Chinese lessons, therapy, the swim meet, computer camp, a birthday party, a play date. Then home for an impromptu barbecue of turkey burgers and a salad with fresh Parmesan cheese followed by summer homework, Nintendo, and TV --the kids lying splayed on the couch, dead eyed, like denizens of a Chinese opium den--followed by \"Hi Mom,\" \"Hi, Dad,\" and bed. Life is so much more interesting now! It's not boring, like 1957. There are things to do: The culture is broader, more sophisticated; there's more wit and creativity to be witnessed and enjoyed. Moms, kids and dads have more options, more possibilities. This is good. The bad news is that our options leave us exhausted when we pursue them and embarrassed when we don't. . . . If someone does the big, terrible thing to New York or Washington, there will be a lot of chaos and a lot of lines going down, a lot of damage, and a lot of things won't be working so well anymore. And thus a lot more . . . time. Something tells me we won't be teleconferencing and faxing about the Ford account for a while. The psychic blow--and that is what it will be as people absorb it, a blow, an insult that reorders and changes--will shift our perspective and priorities, dramatically, and for longer than a while. Something tells me more of us will be praying, and hard, one side benefit of which is that there is sometimes a quality of stopped time when you pray. You get outside time."}, {"response": 470, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (19:39)", "body": "Answers hidden in lost former black Seminole village By SCOTT MCCABE, The Palm Beach Post An AP Member Exchange BUSHNELL \ufffd Forty-five minutes west of Walt Disney's make-believe history, archaeologists dig for real artifacts. Hunched over a shallow, square excavation, they search for Peliklakaha, the largest Black Seminole village known to historians, a place where different cultures joined in a fight for freedom more than 200 years ago. Until now, say University of Florida archaeologists, Peliklakaha existed only in the writings of military leaders and a painting commissioned by the U.S. general who had burned it down. Archaeologists hope to unearth clues that documents can't provide, secrets about the life of a hidden people. They hope Peliklakaha will reveal whether the inhabitants developed a unique lifestyle with their new status as free people in Florida. \"The story of the Black Seminoles is a tremendous story about a successful effort by slaves gaining their freedom before the Civil War,\" said Delray Beach archaeologist Bill Steele, who discovered the site in 1993. \"That's why Peliklakaha is so significant.\" The dig could establish a new focus in archaeology on cultures that combine African and Native American influences, said Terry Weik, the UF graduate student heading the excavation. more... http://www.naplesnews.com/01/09/florida/d648785a.htm"}, {"response": 471, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (20:28)", "body": "The James Woods thing, if real, has all kinds of ramifications? When did he callthe FBI? What date? Was this a dry run or an aborted attempt? Did the hijackers make any calls on their Airphones? And were any of these men on the actual suicide hijacking missions? Now James Woods will be a witness if any of these men are apprehended, after sitting on a flight with them he could surely identify them. Pretty creepy, alright."}, {"response": 472, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (20:30)", "body": "Subject: Waiting Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:29 AM From: Womack, Jack Waiting, today, for whatever is going to happen next. It does seem as if considerable thought is going into whatever the response will be. Reports from Indian & Pakistani newspapers are saying that the special force units (Rangers, SEALS, Green Berets, several other groups including one we have never heard of before, \"Night Stalkers.\" -- this goes into my phrasebook of new terms, along with \"Frozen Zone\") are already moving into place. I suspect something along the lines of the following will happen, whenever it happens: 1. Ground forces at this stage will consist solely of those guys, or some of those guys. More are preparing to go over, it's said, but I can't help but think that the US is keeping in mind what happened to the USSR during their ten-year war. (It would be absolute madness to send a large number of soldiers into Afghanistan, but that doesn't mean it won't happen, sooner or later.) 2. Bombing from the air will occur prior to the guys going in; I have a suspicion that for appearance's sake if nothing else, this will be Dresden/Tokyo-size bombing although there isn't much left to bomb. From today's Times: \"When we looked at Afghanistan before, the sense was we were going to bomb them up to the stone age,\" said one former Clinton administration official familiar with the planning of past military strikes against Mr. bin Laden's terrorist network. The FBI is now saying that not long prior to the event, the pilot of the plane that first struck the Towers met with an Iraqi intelligence agent. Iraq is vigorously denying this and evidently claiming this story came from the UK. If they're in the process of ascertaining that Hussein was in any way connected (it's hard not to suspect that he is, if only because the opportunity to get back at Bush Sr. by way of Bush Jr. would I think be pretty hard to pass up) they're keeping it *way* under wraps. Because -- 3. If Hussein was even minimally involved, it's a pretty safe bet Baghdad will also get the Dresden/Tokyo treatment, and totally without warning. After that, it's anyone's guess -- anything from ongoing small operations for the next five, ten, twenty years, to World War III. One view in the Russian papers is that if this were to be handled in the traditional Central Asian way, the Taliban themselves would kill bin Laden, and then turn over his body claiming that Western intelligence forces did it. Ah, the Russian mind....being capable of Russian-level cynicism, and possessed of the ability to endlessly extrapolate negative transactions, it's easy for me to imagine one scenario being the US setting off a nuclear bomb in northern Afghanistan in the midst of ground assaults, air bombing, etc.; thereafter claiming that the bomb belonged to the terrorists, that we found out about this just in time, clearly they were going to use it, and that therefore we have ample cause to do whatever the hell we want, beginning with taking out the capitals of Iraq, Iran... It is, of course, fortunate that I am not President. Enough punditizing, and back to the home front: the windows of the stores on Fifth & 57th filled with flags, or memorial bunting, or black curtains. Police cadets (having not yet been graduated) keeping an eye on traffic in midtown, and regular police as ever, everywhere. Military humvees heading down Fifth Avenue along with delivery trucks and stretch limos. I saw my therapist yesterday for the first time in two weeks (I see her on Tuesdays, but had no Sept. 11 session), and talked to her about depression, anxiety, the new numbness of being which I am beginning to think may have a certain permanence about it, now; about my stepmother's death the week prior to last, forgotten in the rush of events; about anger, and rage. (A minor interruption just now as a workman came into my office. \"Just checking your electric outlet,\" he said. \"The plates.\" Then, as he leaves. stated from over his shoulder, \"Don't want you to get blown up.\") I've always been an *extremely* angry person. For most of my life I automatically turned this inward, with the result being (as noted yesterday, I think) fairly deep and ongoing depression (which is also, at least partially, hereditary/chemical) With four years of therapy, beginning after I came out of the hospital back in 1997, I have managed to be able to get a lot of what was in, out; and feel much better for it. For the past year I've been doing much better at getting anger out before it becomes internalized rage. Unfortunately, if anger has no ready focus; or if anger rises toward a number of situations, or people, or whatever, very suddenly, it can't help but be turned inward, at least initially. And it grows, and it grows, and it grows; and it either stays inside, and becomes depression (which is what has been happening, I'm sure not only to me) or comes out in -- well, random acts of senseless violence. And on a national scale... But I am"}, {"response": 473, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (20:42)", "body": "Terry, I am gonna e mail you the James Woods article. My copy and paste fuctions never work here at Drool. Its very odd. So I'll just e mail it to you and, you can decide if you want to post it here."}, {"response": 474, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (20:44)", "body": "I found something on http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml Tuesday, Sept. 18, 2001 9:38 a.m. EDT Twin Tower Terrorists May Have Made Dry Run Did terrorist hijackers who slammed two Boeing 767s into New York's Twin Towers on Tuesday stage a dress rehearsal a week before the attack? That's the intriguing question raised by the account of actor James Woods, who is reportedly telling friends that he saw a suspicious group of Middle Eastern men behaving in a \"clandestine\" manner during the earlier flight from Boston to Los Angeles. Exactly a week before the devastating attacks, Woods boarded a plane at Boston's Logan Airport, the same departure point the terrorists used. Woods sat in first class, according to friends, two of whom repeated his account to the New York Post's Cindy Adams. He was alone except for four other passengers - all Middle Eastern males. The actor immediately noticed the men behaving \"bizarrely.\" They neither drank, nor ate a morsel nor spoke out loud for the entire flight. There was no reading, no slouching, no nodding off. \"They were clandestine. Spoke only to each other in audible tones. And stared straight ahead,\" Adams was told. \"They were clearly very uptight,\" Woods' friends quoted him as saying. The actor was sufficiently troubled by their behavior to report it to a flight attendant - but she shrugged the incident off. When Woods landed he informed authorities on the ground, who reportedly \"seemed unwilling to become involved.\" The day after the attacks on New York and Washington, Woods called the FBI. At 7 a.m. Thursday investigators summoned the actor for an immediate interview."}, {"response": 475, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (15:56)", "body": "I don't quite understand how they could not speak out loud and speak to other other in audible tones at the same time. I'm still wondering how authentic this story is, waiting for Bethanne's email to find out more. It should be in the Ne York Post in Cindy Adams column it sounds like."}, {"response": 476, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (16:28)", "body": "From the horses mouth, NY Post gossip columnist Cindy Adams: September 18, 2001 -- Actor's travel tale is plane-ly chilling MOVIE STAR James Woods met with the FBI this week on the events that happened last week. It was a real-life scenario. It was chilling. Jimmy is devoted to his mom, whom fans will recall was his date at the Oscars. She lives in Boston. He lives in Los Angeles. He sees her often. He thus makes the Logan-LAX run regularly. Exactly one week before Terrorist Tuesday, Jimmy made the identical flight from Boston's Logan Airport to L.A. He related this episode to two friends of mine Sunday. Both repeated it to me almost verbatim. As we go to press I have been unable to reach James Woods, whom I know. I therefore repeat this story using his words as they were told to me. James Woods sat in first class. The section was empty except for four other passengers. All male. All Middle Eastern. He was acutely aware of them because of what he termed their \"bizarre\" behavior. On this entire flight which crosses the whole country not once did one of them partake of a single morsel. Not one even had a sip of water. They did not read. Did not nod off for an instant. Did not slouch down. Did not make themselves comfortable. Did not say a word to the attendants. Did not speak aloud. They were clandestine. Spoke only to each other in inaudible tones. And stared straight ahead. Jimmy is quoted as saying, \"They were clearly very uptight.\" An actor reads body language. An actor is trained to see into someone. To silently probe their psyche. An actor's laserlike slice into the heart of a foreign situation or human being is what enables him to don the mantle and play that other person. An actor's insight into behavior and manner can be as telling as a photograph. Award-winning James Woods felt uneasy. Sufficiently concerned to mention what he'd noticed to a flight attendant who shrugged it off. He also mentioned it to ground authorities who seemed unwilling to become involved. Wednesday, the day after the World Trade Center hit, Jimmy rang the FBI to report his experience. They said thousands of tips were coming in and they're checking all out as fast as they can. Thursday, 7 a.m., they called and said they're coming to see him. Like now. A team arrived at his door. They said something to the effect of, \"We cannot tell you anything. We cannot answer any of your questions. You can think whatever you choose to think. Now tell us every detail you remember.\" As is now known, not the airlines, not Logan security - which Woods supposedly said, \"was so lax that I particularly noted it\" - not our own intelligence operation picked up vibes in advance of Terrorist Tuesday because, ostensibly, the strike was so swift. However, this would appear that, in fact, somebody should have picked it up because it was not so swift. Because these men had made a dry run exactly the week before. Multiple men. Non-American nationals. Traveling in one group. Arabic names. Foreign passports. Reportedly paying cash. This does not trip some computer somehow, somewhere, someplace? And barring an omniscent all-seeing, all-noticing James Woods being a fellow passenger, might similar advance teams not have replicated this same type trial run on at least four other planes?"}, {"response": 477, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (16:30)", "body": "I watched all ofthe PBS programs last night. It wasn't exactly the most cheerful evening - I am going to try to be less attentive to the tv tonight. The White House has been trying to backtrack on the \"crusade\" comment. The root-em-toot-em cowboy image seems to have been reinforced by the \"dead or alive\" comment also. Even Blair seems less than thrilled with that one. Tuesday September 18 3:46 PM ET White House Apologizes for Word WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush (news - web sites) regrets using the word ``crusade,'' with all its historical connotations of religious war, to describe his campaign against terrorists, his spokesman said Tuesday. Bush only meant to say that his is a ``broad cause'' to stamp out terrorism worldwide, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) said. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010918/us/attacks_crusade_3.html ---------------- No 10 fails to echo 'dead or alive' call By George Jones, Political Editor (Filed: 19/09/2001)(The Telegraph) BRITAIN refused yesterday to endorse President Bush's declaration that he wanted Osama bin Laden \"dead or alive\". Tony Blair's official spokesman said the Prime Minister wanted those responsible for the atrocities \"brought to account\". http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/19/nbrit19.xml"}, {"response": 478, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 19, 2001 (23:26)", "body": "Feedback for Freedom We find ourselves surrounded by cries for retribution ringing out in response to the attacks on the East coast. Fanned by the media, this primitive urge to make others suffer equally or more will have its political and military effect. We are probably on the horrific spiral envisioned by the perpetrators of the attack. My engineering experience warns me that this is not a \"converging\" situation - it will not settle out in stability, but will thrash madly about until so much is destroyed that nothing can continue. If we want the situation to achieve stability we should consider some principles of feedback design. An engineer designing a feedback system takes an \"active element\" capable of exerting the maximum force needed and tames it by placing it within an environment that guarantees operation within the intended parameters. For an oscillator, the environment will say: \"do anything you want, but only at this frequency\". For an amplifier, the message is \"do anything you want, but only if the output is in this proportion of the input\". Taking this metaphor further, if we want a world of stability we must surround those elements capable of exerting force with environments in which the force is limited and directed. Not by meeting force with greater force, but by depriving force of support when wrongly directed. This applies not only to obvious kinds of military force but also to all the sorts of power which leave people at a disadvantage in their lives. Applying this approach, it is clear that the US should be applying massive pressure upon Israel and the Palestinian Authority to settle up, even if it's not the ideal unattainable by either side. This would remove a serious motivating and disrupting factor from the situation. We should be applying all possible means to change the environment in Afghanistan so that the people are empowered to overthrow the Taliban. Foreign invaders do not fare well in that country - the only people who can effect change are the Afghanis themselves. We should turn many of the billions appropriated by Congress to the alleviation of poverty in the poor nations of the world, especially the Mideast, through education and micro-lending, for example. Work from the bottom up, changing the political and economic environment for the better. And the \"we\" here also means we as individuals and groups, not simply the government. Citizen initiative can be powerful. We can use it to make cracks in the image of a monolithic passive, compliant populace perpetuated by the media. Cracks like this have a way of propagating. All of this would be profoundly subversive to systems of power. That is the point. Building feedback loops around those power structures will protect not only ourselves but our world. (Lee Felsenstein, , is an electronic design engineer and EFF Pioneer Award winner who played a part both in the early development of personal computers and in the Free Speech Movement in Berkeley. Permission is granted to reproduce this work only in its entirety, including this notice.)"}, {"response": 479, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (01:36)", "body": "I wonder how many \"test runs\" these guys made. James Woods Reports Suspicious Passengers to FBI September 19, 2001 Reuters Woods declined to publicly discuss his experience, first reported by New York Post columnist Cindy Adams and confirmed by his spokeswoman, Susan Madore. In a brief statement, the actor said, \"I think it prudent not to comment on this and let the FBI continue do their job ...\" Article: http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=entertainmentnews&StoryID=231786"}, {"response": 480, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (01:43)", "body": "Secret Plans for 10-year War THE TIMES (LONDON) THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 20 2001 BY MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR Generals rule out 'D-Day invasion' AMERICA and Britain are producing secret plans to launch a ten-year \ufffdwar on terrorism\ufffd \ufffd Operation Noble Eagle \ufffd involving a completely new military and diplomatic strategy to eliminate terrorist networks and cells around the world. Despite the mass build-up of American forces in the Gulf and the Indian Ocean, there will be no \ufffdD-Day invasion\ufffd of Afghanistan and no repeat of the US-led Operation Desert Storm against Iraq in 1991, defence sources say. The notion that a US-led multinational coalition would attack Afghanistan from all sides for harbouring Osama bin Laden, the wealthy Saudi dissident leader and prime suspect for the terrorist outrages in New York and Washington, has been rejected in Washington and London. The sources also say that the planned campaign is not being focused on just \ufffdbringing bin Laden to justice\ufffd. The build-up of firepower by the Americans in the region, notably the two aircraft carrier battle groups that are to be joined by a third carrier, USS Theodore Roosevelt, is seen as a major display of available military capability. While it is important for these assets to be in the right place in case of a political decision to launch a strike, there are no plans for a \ufffdshort-term fix\ufffd. The dramatically different anti-terrorism campaign is being planned to meet what is now regarded as the most dangerous threat to global security, known as asymmetric warfare. \ufffdWe\ufffdre expecting it to last from five to ten years,\ufffd one source said. New ideas are needed to counter small groups armed with the minimum of weaponry, whether conventional or non-conventional. Such groups have the capability to attack a nation as powerful as the United States, which is equipped with the full range of modern weapons and professional Armed Forces. Old doctrines for fighting wars, based on lining up tanks and artillery and layers of troops, are being thrown out and replaced by a more subtle and wide-ranging doctrine which seeks to defeat the enemy at its own game. \ufffdThe aim is not to go for the enemy\ufffds strengths, but its weaknesses,\ufffd one source said. American and British planners are working on the basis that military strikes will take place only as part of a broader global counter-terrorist operation, embracing every other type of international action \ufffd diplomatic, economic and political. Most of the focus of the ten-year campaign plan, the sources say, is on using military action as a potent back-up to all the other strands of Operation Noble Eagle. However, President Bush, conscious of the demand for \ufffdrevenge\ufffd from the American public, might sanction shorter-term military operation by special forces, or airstrikes, but only if there is sufficient intelligence to guarantee a sucessful outcome. \ufffdThere\ufffds no point in firing a lot of missiles at bin Laden if they miss their target, or launching Tomahawks at bin Laden training camps if they are empty,\ufffd one source said. Complete Article: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001320010-2001325231,00.html"}, {"response": 481, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (08:46)", "body": "From Screendaily: US theatres plan Sept 11 charity day next Tuesday (Mike Goodridge in Los Angeles) Theatre circuits across the US are banding together to create a \"Victims Benefit Day at the Movies\" next Tuesday (Sept 25) on which 100% of ticket and concession sales will be donated to the September 11th Fund of the United Way and the American Red Cross. 50% of the proceeds will be donated to the Red Cross and 50% to the United Way. Among participating circuits are AMC, Carmike Cinemas, Cinemark USA, Hoyts Cinemas Corp, National Amusements, Regal Cinemas and United Artists Theatre Co. \ufffd Joe Roth\ufffds Revolution Studios has announced that it will donate all proceeds from the planned re-release of America\ufffds Sweethearts this weekend to the September 11th Fund; the company is also adding its summer comedy hit The Animal to the re-release at selected sites."}, {"response": 482, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (09:04)", "body": "An article in the Nation reports that Russian television has been saying that Russian security services believe the next attack will be on a nuclear power plant: http://www.thenation.com/docPrint.mhtml?i=special&s=bivens_wtc_20010916 We better step up security at our nuclear facilities. Now."}, {"response": 483, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (09:05)", "body": "In other news, BBC is reporting that the Afghanistan shura (meeting of clerics) has decided to ask Osama bin Laden to voluntarily leave the country. But who would take him?"}, {"response": 484, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (09:08)", "body": "It is now being reported that Mossad warned the Bush Administration in August that about 200 people on their watch list of suspected terrorists were slipping into the United States, and that a \"big target\" was going to be hit."}, {"response": 485, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (09:31)", "body": "The James Woods story gets a notch more credibility. Unfriendly Skies for James Woods By Scott Huver, Hollywood.com Staff Hollywood.com Exclusive! Actor may have shared \"trial run\" flight with terrorists The always-intense actor James Woods may have found himself near the center of the real-life drama that led to the terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center. The 54-year-old actor was questioned by the FBI following his report that while on a commercial flight from Boston's Logan Airport to Los Angeles one month prior to the devastating attack, he may have shared the first class section with the same box cutter-wielding terrorists responsible for hijacking American Airlines Flight 11. The four men are now believed to have been enacting a \"trial run\" of their suicide assault on NYC. According to Woods in a story confirmed by his publicist, he was on a flight back to L.A. after visiting his mother's home in Boston. He was alone in the first class section, except for a quartet of Middle Eastern men who, in Woods' estimation, were behaving bizarrely. The actor noticed that they never ate or drank, never spoke to the flight crew and only addressed each other in hushed tones. For the majority of the cross-country flight the men sat and stared stone-faced straight ahead. Perhaps playing all those movie bad guys and killers gave the Oscar-nominated actor some kind of subtle insight: After picking up on the group's odd demeanor and tense body language, Woods actually mentioned it to a flight attendant, who dismissed it, and reported it again to airline authorities on the ground, who didn't seem to want to pursue it. It wasn't until about a month later, on the Wednesday following the attack, that Woods again called authorities--this time the FBI--to report his experience once more. This time, in less than 24 hours, Federal agents arrived on his doorstep looking to examine every detail of his story. Although the agents didn't share any information on their investigation with the actor, out of the thousands of tips the FBI received, they certainly seemed to take Woods' tale extremely seriously. The actor kept his experience quiet until it was leaked to a New York Post columnist, who mistakenly reported that it occurred only one week prior to the deadly attack. \"I think it is prudent not to comment on this and let the FBI continue to do their job, which they seem to be doing superbly right now,\" Woods said in a statement to Hollywood.com. Laura Bosley, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Los Angeles, could neither confirm nor deny this report, but she did tell Hollywood.com that many individuals nationwide are coming forward with information and that the FBI is taking all these reports into account. Woods recently starred in Scary Movie 2 and appears in the upcoming Drew Barrymore film Riding in Cars With Boys. He recently signed to play former studio head Alan Hirschfield in the film version of David McClintock's book Indecent Exposure, which chronicles David Begelman's check-forging scandal while heading Columbia Pictures in the late 1970s."}, {"response": 486, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (10:13)", "body": "the Afghanistan shura (meeting of clerics) has decided to ask Osama bin Laden to voluntarily leave the country. But who would take him? If OBL gave himselp up, it would aid all those cells he has all over by centruting the attention on him. This is so complicated because it is not just him. In Israel everyone has gas masks, I think it would be prudent on our side to to the same."}, {"response": 487, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (10:15)", "body": "centruting should be concentrating."}, {"response": 488, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (11:07)", "body": "The Taliban have issued an edict that asks OBL to leave Afghanistan: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/010920/80/c4q2r.html"}, {"response": 489, "author": "AnnieZ", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (11:20)", "body": "I work for an airline company. It's the saddest day in my company today. 25% of people in my department are leaving (most of them have already left by now). I've survived at this time but don't feel happy at all! People, whom I worked with for years and some of them became very good friends, are let go. Tears in many people's eyes no matter they stay or go. I'm feeling so depressed. It feels like an airplane just hit the building when I work (which is the headquarter of the company). Just think that we had several new positions opening for hire a week before the attack. I may survive for this cut but who knows the next time I'd survive?"}, {"response": 490, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (11:24)", "body": "janes.com: 19 September 2001 Who did it? Foreign Report presents an alternative view Israel\ufffds military intelligence service, Aman, suspects that Iraq is the state that sponsored the suicide attacks on the New York Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington. Directing the mission, Aman officers believe, were two of the world\ufffds foremost terrorist masterminds: the Lebanese Imad Mughniyeh, head of the special overseas operations for Hizbullah, and the Egyptian Dr Ayman Al Zawahiri, senior member of Al-Qaeda and possible successor of the ailing Osama Bin Laden. The two men have not been seen for some time. Mughniyeh is probably the world\ufffds most wanted outlaw. Unconfirmed reports in Beirut say he has undergone plastic surgery and is unrecognisable. Zawahiri is thought to be based in Egypt. He could be Bin Laden\ufffds chief representative outside Afghanistan."}, {"response": 491, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (11:46)", "body": "Re: the James Woods story Just because something is repeated does not, in itself, make a story credible. Let's look at who the 'reporters' are. Cindy Adams: a gossip columnist, relating heresay. I do not doubt James Woods saw what he saw and reported it as described, but how can it be concluded these *were* the same terrorists? Or even terrorists at all? Did he positively ID them? 'Reportedly paying cash'--how does James or Cindy know this? She also blames Logan Security when security at the Portland, Maine airport is also culpable. Scott Huver, Hollywood.com (c'mon, H'wood.com? We're not exactly talking 60 Minutes here): Scott essentially re-writes Cindy's story except he states Woods took the flight one month before 9-11 whereas Cindy said it was one week. He then embellishes with some common knowledge quotes. IMO one should not jump to conclusions based on this level of reporting and should use the term 'credible' with care."}, {"response": 492, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (12:24)", "body": "Just because something is repeated does not, in itself, make a story credible... IMO one should not jump to conclusions based on this level of reporting.(Eileen) Good point, but I think it applies to every \"level of reporting\" right now. (Especially right now.) There have been quite a few stories circulated that turned out to be incorrect even in the \"main stream\" press. I do think it makes sense that the terrorists would have made \"trial runs\" to check out the exact conditions on the flights."}, {"response": 493, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (12:38)", "body": "(Suzee) I think it applies to every \"level of reporting\" right now. Good point right back at 'cha, but I'd like to think things are settling down in the true mainstream press. Last week it was mass hysteria."}, {"response": 494, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (12:46)", "body": "Just because something is repeated does not, in itself, make a story credible... IMO one should not jump to conclusions based on this level of reporting.(Eileen) Good point, but I think it applies to every \"level of reporting\" right now. (Especially right now.) There have been quite a few stories circulated that turned out to be incorrect even in the \"main stream\" press. I do think it makes sense that the terrorists would have made \"trial runs\" to check out the exact conditions on the flights."}, {"response": 495, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (13:23)", "body": "I'm taking the Woods story with the grain of salt it deserves, but if true has much broader consequences. This is an article on the international system used to move money to the terrorists and the moves to stop it. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/20/business/20MONE.html"}, {"response": 496, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (14:58)", "body": "Finally, a major, reputable news source has picked this James Woods thing up. Reuters. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010919/en/people-woods_1.html Pretty much the same information in this Reuters piece with the exception of this elaboration: Woods declined to publicly discuss his experience, first reported by New York Post columnist Cindy Adams and confirmed by his spokeswoman, Susan Madore. In a brief statement, the actor said, ``I think it prudent not to comment on this and let the FBI continue do their job, which they seem to be doing superbly right now.'' Woods, 54, who studied at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology before pursuing an acting career, is best known for playing heavies and misfits."}, {"response": 497, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (15:10)", "body": "It's now being reported the Woods flight was a month before not a week as reported in the gossip column."}, {"response": 498, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (19:29)", "body": "At least two of the \"hijackers\" supposedly found alive and well. Doubts emerge over identities of hijackers in US attacks WASHINGTON, Sept 20 (AFP) - US officials are investigating whether some or all of the 19 hijackers on the four hijacked aircraft used in last week's terror attacks used stolen identities, possibly complicating efforts to link them to Osama bin Laden. The doubts started to emerge when at least four men with names matching those on an FBI list of the hijackers turned up alive in Saudi Arabia and Tunisia, according to newspaper reports. An unnamed senior US official told Thursday's Washington Post that there was now uncertainty over the list of names. \"There may be some question with regard to the identity of at least some of them,\" he said. ......... FBI director Robert Mueller said last week as he released what he said were the names of the hijackers that his bureau had \"a fairly high level of confidence\" that they were their true identities. But at least one Arabic newspaper, the Saudi-owned Asharq al-Awsat, said this week it had found two of the Saudis named on the list, Abdelaziz al-Omari and Said Hussein Gharamallah al-Ghamdi, alive and well. Article: http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/technology/afp/article.html?s=asia/headlines/010920/technology/afp/Doubts_emerge_over_identities_of_hijackers_in_US_attacks.html"}, {"response": 499, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (20:39)", "body": "i heard about the stolen identities too. prayers and love to all...."}, {"response": 500, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (21:29)", "body": "Plus the families of two of the hihackers have said, their relative was not one of the hijackers, including this Mohammad Atta dude. They are claiming identity fraud too. A bit hard to belive when you consider Atta has been on the FBI's list of suspected criminals, for a long time."}, {"response": 501, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (21:37)", "body": "(Rob)MSG 436 sums up just about every country capable of providing aid bar New Zealand. Do we not exist? - I copied that information from a couple of different sites. It is entirely possible that I missed New Zealand :-( -- or it was not on the lists I used -- but I looked around and found this: NEW ZEALAND: Has offered the use of Special Air Services commandos and New Zealand intelligence resources in any action against those responsible for the terrorist attacks. ----------------- Here's to New Zealand: \ufffdGod of nations at Thy feet In the bonds of love we meet. Hear our voices, we entreat, God defend our Free Land. Guard Pacific's triple star\ufffd And why if it \"can be found on two large islands and a host of smaller islands\" is it called \"triple star\"? (Gee, I hope the lyrics are correct!)"}, {"response": 502, "author": "maryw", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (21:49)", "body": "This is really spooky I just received by email : a.. A flight number from one of the planes that hit one of the twin towers was Q33NY. b.. In MS Word or Wordperfect, type in that flight number (in capitals) - Q33NY c.. Enlarge the font size to 26 and then change the font to Wingdings or Wingdings1"}, {"response": 503, "author": "maryw", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (21:49)", "body": ""}, {"response": 504, "author": "maryw", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (21:50)", "body": "This is really spooky I just received by email : a.. A flight number from one of the planes that hit one of the twin towers was Q33NY. b.. In MS Word or Wordperfect, type in that flight number (in capitals) - Q33NY c.. Enlarge the font size to 26 and then change the font to Wingdings or Wingdings1"}, {"response": 505, "author": "maryw", "date": "Thu, Sep 20, 2001 (21:51)", "body": "Sorry..for phantom postings"}, {"response": 506, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (00:48)", "body": "Hi all I thought I would post this as my own perspective on the Taliban, the case with the Muslim population world wide, the case of the Middle East and the possible effect on the world economy. My perspective comes from having talked to Mum and Dad who have been to Pakistan and Afghanistan, from learning and research I did on my own accord on the Middle East powder keg, from Political Science and from Geography where we examined the United States foreign policy (not as applied to a Middle Eastern nation). In 1979 the country of Nicaragua was ripe for revolt, with a regime in power despised by the people and in command of a military that was beginning to lean toward the people. The regime was recognised by the United States among other countries and it allowed environmentally unfriendly practices to be maintained by foreign companies of mainly Western origin. A politician named Sandinista however began a revolution the following year that swept him into power with the support of the people of Nicaragua. It was a socialist government (NOT COMMUNIST)that formed and immediately began instituting sweeping reform basic social welfare, health, education, and economic programmes the latter of which were based on principles of environmental sustainability. The program involved the passing of the first ever environmental laws for the country which restricted the amount of forest that could be logged and set standards for mines. Someone in the Ronald Reagan found out and pressed the President into allowing the CIA to wage government sponsored crime in the country by burning down the forests, and funding anti Sandinista factions to topple the government. The secretly funded war that CIA agents waged in the country crippled Nicaragua at the one time when it was making it's first substantial economic progress ever. The same President decreased spending on just about everything to fund a huge programme of capital expenditure on the United States military which had operatives in Afghanistan fighting the Soviets, who were immediately withdrawn without any gratitude to Afghanistan (or Pakistan from where they were based) as soon as the Soviets withdrew. Pakistan inherited many problems created by the sudden United States departure which to some extent the Pakistani government could not have satisfactorily sorted out itself. That upset many Muslims and since the United States is a powerful ally of Israel whose Jews are age old foes of the Muslims, the United States became a target of anger. None of this ever justified terrorism on ANY scale let alone the scale of last weeks attacks, but it may have been part of a trigger for the strikes on New York and Washington D.C. Osama bin Laden has begun a holy war and I suspect that the Middle East with it's sharp divisions between Arabs and Israelis, Muslims and Jews has the capacity to become a giant conflagration of war if certain issues are not sorted out. The entire Western World is at fault to some extent (United States, Britain, Australia, France, Germany, Canada, New Zealand and like countries)on this issue. We take the oil of those countries to drive our economies while putting minimal investment back in by mploying people at dirt cheap rates in some cases and this is not an exaggeration NZ$1 (US$.44c) a day. We treat their environments with contempt and make no effort to clean up the mess, and we contribute to the cycle of poverty that ensures these countries STAY poor. New Zealand is at fault because we get shirts and clothes really cheaply from Indonesia (a Muslim nation with 200 million people), and probably places like Pakistan and India. We expect them to be democratic and freedom when we can at TIMES hardly call the governments of our nations freedom loving either. I think there is a low but very REAL chance that a showdown sometime in the next few decades between the West and Islam is looming, and I think it may engulf at least the entire Middle East when it does come. So how did this mess come about?? In part Western consumerism is to blame for the economic ills and lack of investment in the countries where we have set up Multi-national corporations, and in part to misguided policies passed by the governments of those nations who have large Muslim populations. What can we do?? All countries have a role to play in this though the largest role will be that of the United States, because it takes the most out of the Islamic nations. United States Foreign policy on things like trade is going to have to change or it risks permanently damaging relations with the entire Islamic world. Changes need not be sweeping but they need to be on things like free trade (without tariffs), and a concept of \"fair trade\" that involves trade deals that disadvantage neither side are being promoted by some. How the Department of State sees environmental protocols will have to change as it is hurting traditional European friends/allies as much as it hurts poorer nations. People, I know that th"}, {"response": 507, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (04:25)", "body": "Secret memo reveals US plan to overthrow Taliban regime Friday September 21, 2001 The Guardian The US government is pressing its European allies to agree to a military campaign to topple the Taliban regime in Afghanistan and replace it with an interim administration under United Nations auspices. Diplomatic cables from the Washington embassy of a key Nato ally, seen by the Guardian, report that the US is keen to hear allied views on \"post-Taliban Afghanistan after the liberation of the country\". The embassy cable reveals that the US administration is bent on force to evict the Taliban from power because of the shelter it has offered Osama bin Laden, named by the White House as prime suspect for the New York and Washington atrocities on September 11. The Guardian has also learned that two large US Hercules transport aircraft landed in Tashkent, capital of the former Soviet republic of Uzbekistan, on Tuesday loaded with surveillance equipment to be installed along the northern Afghan border. The secret landing represented a radical departure since it appeared to herald the deployment of squadrons of US fighters at Uzbekistan's sprawling airfield at Termez, directly on the border. Such a build-up would incur the wrath of Russia which views the central Asian republics as its backyard. .......................... The US strategy to depose the Taliban regime is based on more than military thinking. A further plank appears to entail supporting the campaign of the exiled 86-year-old monarch of Afghanistan, King Zahir Shah, to return to power by encouraging the guerrilla army of the Northern Alliance opposition to fall in behind him. Complete article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,555530,00.html"}, {"response": 508, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (07:35)", "body": "At the end of the day we Westerners are going to have to make some sacrifices to our material wealth, because plainly to stop the social conditions that support this sort of evil, nothing less will do. Good point, Rob. the US is keen to hear allied views on \"post-Taliban Afghanistan after the liberation of the country\". Some people may find this statement very arrogant. From syndicated columnist JONATHAN POWER Is it possible for America to say 'Sorry'? September 20, 2001 LONDON - How should the United States fight Osama bin Laden? It could start by saying sorry. Despite two centuries of rapid immigration pulling in people from all over the world, America remains a predominantly Christian nation. It is not a Jewish one and certainly not an Islamic one. It draws its inspiration from another book, mightier, it believes, than the Old Testament or the Koran, although it shares common roots with both these religions and worships the same God. If Christianity is not about saying sorry and turning the other cheek what, at the end of the day, is so special about it? We have a lot to be sorry for. After all it was Christian societies that practised slavery. It was a Christian society that tolerated the long persecution and then the obliteration of the Jews. (Islamic societies, even in their worst times, have never set about the extermination of the Jewish people.) And in a more recent era it is Christian societies which stirred up war in Africa in their quest for Cold War allies, destroyed Afghanistan, the scorched refuge of bin Laden, in a misplaced and unnecessary attempt to aid the resistance to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and allowed the legitimate desire of the Jewish people to own their own state to degenerate into the contemporary world's worst example of military occupation and imperialistic land acquisition. Perhaps it seems extraordinary that a political writer should have nothing better to say than \"say sorry\". In a week when innocent bodies in New York and Washington are being buried, when children cry all night for their lost parents, when lonely widows and widowers ask themselves how they will ever take another step forward through life, is this the time for contrition? It is hard to make the argument, that I know. But where does hatred take us, where does revenge, where does it end if, as President George Bush says, \"there are no rules\"? Do we want to make the situation worse or do we want to take a momentous leap of imagination and reach out to make it better? The military solution, however sympathetically one looks at it, appears at the very least counterproductive. As a recent publication by the hard headed International Institute for Strategic Studies argued it, going after the Taleban regime in Afghanistan will likely destabilise its friendly neighbour Pakistan and throw a nuclear-armed country into the hands of the militants. Beyond that, what would be the point of inflaming Islamic societies everywhere if it led to the fall of the fundamentalist (but friendly) government of Saudi Arabia? If Saudi Arabia were ruled in a fashion true to its Wahhabi ultra- fundamentalist creed not only would there be no U.S. troops on Saudi soil, it would be an end to the (uneasy) coalition against Saddam Hussein, there would be a cataclysmic shortfall in western oil supplies, and the turning of Saudi missiles from pointing towards Iraq in the direction of Israel instead. It would also probably push Saudi Arabia to develop nuclear weapons to put on the nose of its nuclear-capable rockets it bought from China, and this to threaten Israel with. Is America going to occupy Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to forestall that scenario? Then the house would really fall in. The reason America has reached this fork in the road is because, as with so many other issues, America has put off biting the bullet on hard problems. Politicians and the media have connived to keep the populace ignorant of what is going on in the world. Only in extreme times of emergency - such as the current one and the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait- is there an intense effort made to educate public opinion, and then that is done at a fever pitch with truth and objectivity being given short shrift. Yet all over the world there are silent emergencies that have continued to be combated half heartedly, whilst they have developed a head of power that in the end steamrollers all modest solutions. This is as true of global warming as it is of the Israeli settlement policy on Palestinian land. This is as true of the spread of AIDS and other highly infectious diseases as it is of the West's over-consumption of energy. This is as true of the proliferation of nuclear weapons, for want of a disarmament lead from the ex-Cold War nuclear powers, as it is of the Western tolerance of child labour in factories making their consumer goods. This is as true of children dying in Africa and other Third World countries for want of pure drinking water and the lack of education o"}, {"response": 509, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (08:03)", "body": "Did anyone see a teleprompter last night for Pres. Bush? He couldn't have memorized and delivered the speech so well. It was the best he's ever done live."}, {"response": 510, "author": "MarkG", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (08:35)", "body": "MaryW: A flight number from one of the planes that hit one of the twin towers was Q33NY. Don't let Wingdings experts mess with your head, Mary. The flights that hit the towers were numbered 11 and 77, the other two hijacked flights 175 and 93. Also, the Nostradamus lines being broadcast around the Web (\"twin brothers shall be rent in fire, yadda, yadda\") are made up."}, {"response": 511, "author": "LauraMM", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (08:42)", "body": "Sorry? I haven't read the above article and don't feel the inclination to. We have Jesse Jackson trying to get monies to the offspring of slaves? I'm sorry, but that is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. If that's the case then, perhaps we should start doling money out to every Japanese American who were sent into camps during WW2 or the Koreans during the Korean War? Hell, we should pay Britain for \"allowing\" us to win the war in 1776. Why should WE say sorry? We are a nation built on different ethnicities and backgrounds. Slavery made this country, it built our civil rights, and our Bill of Rights, out of bad, some good may come. What we have is a nation (Afghanistan) who is run by fundamentalist nutjobs. The Taliban is EVIL. They are trying to infiltrate as many countries as they can with their idealogy mumbo jumbo. They are not Muslims? They are whacked out religious freaks who say they speak the word or Allah. And Allah comandeered them to take our airplanes, use them as missiles, against CIVILIANS, who were just working, like the rest of the world. Not plotting to overtake a government, or throw their religious beliefs on everyone else. I know I'm just ranting, but we don't owe anyone an apology. Our governmental policies are in use because they work. Iraq says it's our fault. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell (GO AWAY BOTH OF YOU) blame our moral values. They said it was our fault. No one, absolutely NO ONE, deserves to die the way helpless civilians dies on September 11, 2001. end of rant."}, {"response": 512, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (08:56)", "body": "A summary of OBL's finances in The Times http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001320010-2001325324,00.html"}, {"response": 513, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (09:03)", "body": "David Kline: If we end up bombing the Afghan capital (or other populated targets), it'll be because Washington lacked the patience and willingness to ally with freedom-loving Afghans in the country and gather the human intelligence needed to locate Bin Laden and his Taliban benefactors. In other words, it'll be a de facto admission of defeat. If you really want Bin Laden, you have to: * Use local people to locate him. * Move swiftly without alerting him or his Taliban supporters (which probably means employing a joint US-Afghan (anti-Taliban) team. If we just start flying around in Bin Laden's general area, using electronic intelligence gathered from his communications to hone in on him, he'll be gone before his tea gets cold. And I mean *gone.* In that part of the country -- a lot like Utah only hotter and more difficult to traverse -- there are thousands of little cave hideouts and hundreds of Taliban-dominated villages where he could hide out and slink away. The borders near Quetta, Pakistan are completely porous -- even if the Pak's tried with all their might to seal them, it couldn't be done. There are also nomadic tribespeople moving in caravans constantly across both Iran's and Pakistan's borders with Afghanistan where a guy in a turban with a half-dozen bodyguards could easily blend in. So \"chasing\" Bin Laden on the run won't work. You've got to find him and move in quickly, **before** he runs, and for that you need anti-Taliban Afghan intelligence. There's simply no other way to attack him effectively. Of course, if Washington just wants to blow off steam and waste a few hundred or thousand innocent Afghans, then none of the above applies. It'll look good on TV, maybe, but it won't get Bin Laden or the Taliban. A finger of David Kline reveals: I'm a journalist and author, former war correspondent (until, genius that I am, I finally figured out I should find something safer to do) and sometime business strategy consultant. I used to be a HotWired columnist and Upside columnist till they gave me the boot for ideological impurity. But I'm still a commentator on NPR's \"Marketplace\" business program and I'm still writing books. So I guess I'm not a complete screw-up. My first book was published by Dutton in 1995 -- \"Road Warriors: Dreams and Nightmares Along the Information Highway.\" My latest will be published by Harvard Business School Press in the Fall of 1999 -- \"Rembrandts in the Closet: Wielding Intellectual Property for Competitive Advantage.\" I would add that he's been on the scene in Afghanistan as a war correspondent."}, {"response": 514, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (09:07)", "body": "(Moon) It was the best he's ever done live. Practice makes perfect and so does good coaching. I was grateful he didn't appear to be sounding out the words as he has in earlier speeches. (Laura) perhaps we should start doling money out to every Japanese American who were sent into camps during WW2 Psst, Laura, it was done. You've never heard of reparation? =8-O"}, {"response": 515, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (09:32)", "body": "David Kline (dkline) Thu 13 Sep 01 08:30 I'd like to try to clear up some mis-information about how the US supposedly \"supplied\", \"trained\" or \"created\" Bin Laden. I reported from Afghanistan from 1979-1987, and I can tell you absolutely that such was not the case. The US supplied arms & money to a variety of factions of the mujahadeen, but did so only through the Pakistani intelligence serevices (SIS), which funneled most arms to Gulbadin Hekmatyar, an ideological precursor to the Taliban and types like Bin Laden. Pakistan had its own reasons for doing so -- these fanatics did very little fighting against the Russians (unlike genuine leaders like Ahmed Shah Massoud), preferring to fight other resistance factions -- and I and others warned US officials of the consequences of allowing arms to be directed towards the fundamentalists. But US officials insisted their \"hands were tied\" in this matter, and whether true or not, there it is. How did the Taliban win? Consider that Afghan society, almost entirely tribal rather than \"national\" toi begin with, was utterly destroyed by the Soviets durinbg the war. 1-tenth the population killed; 1/3 of the survivords forced to flee as refuygees. The systematic destruction of Afghan intelligentsia by Soviet-directed police forces resulted in a statistical decline in the literacy rate. Into this vacumn the Taliban, financed and armerd by Saudi extremists, entered."}, {"response": 516, "author": "admin", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (09:37)", "body": "A lot more of David Klines thoughts on this: http://www.spring.net/dkline.html"}, {"response": 517, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (09:44)", "body": "Hey, that Jonathan Power is some dude. Am I reading: Get a Marshall Plan organized for Afghanistan? Wonder how many votes that would get. *shaking head*"}, {"response": 518, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (13:23)", "body": "[from the Hollywood Reporter] Studios tighten security following FBI terror alert Sep. 21, 2001 Terrorists leveled threats Thursday against Hollywood's major film studios, prompting each to seriously reconsider existing security measures that suddenly seemed far too mild for the current political climate. Some studios partially evacuated their facilities late in the afternoon. Internal memos, usually in the form of an e-mail issued by high-ranking studio executives, buzzed throughout Hollywood on Thursday, warning of threats of mass destruction, presumably from Islamic terrorists. Insiders said studio heads first learned of the threat from MPAA president Jack Valenti, who was briefed by U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, who specifically mentioned a threat of a suicide bomber. An FBI statement released late Thursday, though, was more vague about the exact nature of the threat. The threat's purpose, though, was specifically laid out by the FBI: If the U.S. attacks Afghanistan, a studio will be bombed. \"Today the FBI provided a threat advisory to the major movie studios in Los Angeles,\" FBI spokesman Matt McLaughlin said. \"The uncorroborated threat states that a film studio in California could be the target of a terrorist bombing attack in retaliation for any possible bombing attacks by the United States against Afghanistan. In an abundance of caution, the FBI has provided this threat advisory. The FBI is working closely with the studios regarding this matter.\" Insiders said that those making the threat will target a major film studio because American values and culture -- anathema to fundamentalist Islamic terrorists -- are distributed throughout the world via Hollywood movies."}, {"response": 519, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (13:25)", "body": "Here is a report that Osama has been rushed toward the Chinese border by the Taliban: http://www.frontierpost.com.pk/main.asp?id=2&date1=9/21/2001 This one indicates that he left even before the shura met. http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/sep2001-daily/21-09-2001/main/main2.htm"}, {"response": 520, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (14:58)", "body": "http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ Last summer, while the American media kept the people distracted with \"All Condit All The Time\", the US Government was informing other governments that we would be at war in Afghanistan, no later than October! How lucky for our government that just when they are planning to invade another country, for the express purpose of removing that government, a convenient \"terrorist\" attack occurs to anger Americans into support for an invasion. Sound impossible? Not when you consider that accused terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden is actually an employee of the CIA, who trained and financed him. And guess who paid for the training of the Hijackers? YOU DID, according to NEWSWEEK and MSNBC. From Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI By George Wehrfritz, Catharine Skipp and John Barry NEWSWEEK Sept. 15 U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in Tuesdays terror attacks received training at secure U.S. military installations in the 1990s. Leonard Pitts column: http://www.contracostatimes.com/opinion/columnists/pitts/stories/xxpitts_20010921.htm \"LET'S GET something straight. The events of Sept. 11 did not happen because we did something wrong. Or because we somehow \"deserved\" them. In recent days, I've heard that argument or variations thereof from several friends and dozens of e-mail correspondents. This must be what \"they\" feel like when we bomb \"them,\" says one. Perhaps they acted out of deep hurt, says another. Maybe this is necessary payback for American arrogance, says yet another. And then, of course, there's the ever-reliable Jerry Falwell, who said on \"The 700 Club\" last week that the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon represent God's verdict on gay rights, feminism, abortion and the ACLU. In a word, no. To all of the above, to all the tortured reflection and moral distress: no. Hell no.\".... \"Last week happened, pure and simple, because certain religious extremists hate us. They hate us because our foreign policy has been supportive of Israel. They hate us because we helped repel Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991. But in the larger sense, they hate us because their children want blue jeans, Britney Spears videos and the chance to be like Mike. They hate us because we consume bacon and beer. They hate us because American women wear bikinis and speak their minds. They hate us because we are the biggest, the wealthiest, the most influential, the most powerful. They hate us because we are not them and, moreover, because they are not us. They hate us because they think the deity requires it. They hate us because.\""}, {"response": 521, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (15:46)", "body": "It may be true that James Woods saw the hijackers: 09/21/2001 - Updated 03:07 PM ET Investigators: Hijackers repeatedly scouted flights By Kevin Johnson, Toni Locy and Richard Willing, USA TODAY The terrorists who staged last week's murderous attacks apparently practiced for months by repeatedly riding the flights they later hijacked, learning jet crews' patterns, counting passenger loads and testing airline security, the FBI now believes. The 19 hijackers, probably aided by accomplices who are still alive, began scouting for flights to hijack and making dry runs as early as April, law enforcement sources say. Some of the hijackers are believed to have entered the USA then. Authorities confirmed the finding by checking flight manifests and airport security camera tapes. They also interviewed airline employees. Investigators had suspected that the four hijacked flights \ufffd two from Boston and one each from Newark, N.J., and Dulles International Airport in suburban Washington \ufffd had been carefully chosen, in part because each was full of fuel for a cross-country trip and had a relatively light passenger load. The lack of passengers would have made it easier for the four or five Muslim extremists on each jet to keep those aboard under control and overwhelm the cockpit crews. Authorities say they also now believe that the killers scouted other flights as hijacking candidates but eliminated them from consideration. The findings add texture to the portrait that is emerging of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. The hijackings, sources say, were meticulously planned and required large sums of money, dozens of helpers and coordination among teams. Investigators have not ruled out the possibility that a central figure who set the attacks in motion still could be at large. \ufffd Copyright 2001 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/21/hijackers-usat.htm"}, {"response": 522, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (16:06)", "body": "From the NY Times, more on the hijackers' identities: September 21, 2001 Confusion Over Names Clouds Identities of Attackers on Jets By NEIL MacFARQUHAR CAIRO, Sept. 20 \ufffd Many of the 19 hijacking suspects in the terror attacks last week remain shrouded in confusion, with almost nothing known about some and up to five apparent cases of mistaken identity. The F.B.I. list of hijacking suspects does include the names of at least six missing Saudi Arabian men who left their country, ostensibly to join the Islamic fighters battling the Russians in Chechnya, plus four others whose parents have lost contact with them. But the lack of the details about the suspects, plus the assertions of mistaken identity, have left their parents refusing to mourn and Saudi Arabian officials dismissive of the entire list. \"The haste in publishing the names of suspects in the attacks has made the media fall into the error of involving innocent people, especially Saudis,\" Prince Mit'eb bin Abdullah, the deputy commander of the Saudi National Guard, complained to reporters in Riyadh. The use of wrong names and pictures may indicate that the hijackers filched the identities of fellow Saudis. In the United States, Robert Mueller, the director of the F.B.I., acknowledged Thursday that there were questions about the identities of several of the hijackers on the list. \"We have several hijackers whose identities were those of the names on the manifest, we have several others who are still in question,\" Mr. Mueller said while touring the crash site in Pennsylvania of one hijacked plane. An official at the Saudi Embassy in Washington said there were five mistaken identities on the list, adding that all the men were alive and living abroad. Saudi officials say part of the problem stems from the proliferation of similar names in Saudi Arabia, as well as the numerous varieties of spelling them in English. One of the most common surnames on the F.B.I. list is Alshehri. But in English various members of the clan might spell it Alshahri or Alshehiri or Al-Shehri, entangling search efforts. Far more difficult is the fact that the country's huge tribes repeat the same names over and over again. Saudis use at least three names: their given name, their father's name, and their tribal name. Between the father's name and the tribal name, many also insert the name of a fourth, favored ancestor. But even brothers do not always choose the same name. To narrow the search to specific individuals, Saudi officials said they needed at least one and preferably two middle names. What they are given to work with now is a lot of Joe Smiths. For example, there might be thousands and thousands of people with the name Waleed Alshehri, one of the men whose name appears on the list of suspects who rammed the first plane into the World Trade Center. For a while, suspicion focused on the son of a Saudi diplomat with that name who had studied at Embry- Riddle Aeronautical University in Florida, but his father said he was alive and working as a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines. The confusion apparently stems from the fact that the F.B.I. is matching the names on the passenger manifests to students who have trained in flying. In the southern Saudi town of Khamis Mushait, however, there is an established businessman named Mohammed Al-Shehri who is missing 2 of his 11 sons. One of them is Waleed Mohammed Al-Shehri. Mr. Waleed, 21, was studying to be a teacher, while his brother Wail, 26, already had a degree in physical education and was teaching, their father told the Saudi newspaper Al- Watan. The older brother was suffering from psychological problems and kept seeking the help of clerics to perform a kind of religious exorcism to cure him, the father said. Both men disappeared in December while on a trip to seek yet more help and have not been heard from since. They had grown increasingly religious before their disappearance and spoke often about joining the fight in Chechnya, the paper quoted family friends as saying. Their pictures match those released by the F.B.I. To try to eliminate confusion, Saudi officials said they had repeatedly asked for more information on the suspects, especially longer names, but they had yet to receive it. Plus, in a few cases it appears the hijackers resorted to outright deception. A passenger using the name Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and the birth date of December 24, 1972, is listed on the manifest of the flight that hit the towers first. But a man with the same name and birth date turned up alive in Riyadh, where he told the Al Sharq Al Awsat daily that he had studied electrical engineering at University of Denver. His passport was stolen there in 1995. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/21/international/middleeast/21IDEN.html?pagewanted=print"}, {"response": 523, "author": "fitzwd", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (17:02)", "body": "(Suzee) It may be true that James Woods saw the hijackers: James Woods appears to be a straight shooter. If the story were materially false, I believe he would have disowned it by now. For those who are unaware of his background, he is quite intelligent and attended MIT. He left a few credits shy of graduation. He has articulately debated against Bill Bennett, the former drug czar, on Face the Nation."}, {"response": 524, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (17:40)", "body": "Here are some interesting stats. Get out your little pad and pencil or rev' up your Excel or MS Works spreadsheet and play with these numbers. What do you se? In 1940, the US population was 132 MM, the GNP was 100 BB in constant dollars. In 1940 the US military was 500K men, maybe 300 ships, a few thousand planes. In 1945, the US military was 13.5 million men & women, we had 6000 vessels and 200K aircraft. We had spent nearly $400 BB, nearly twice the 1945 GDP. In 2001, the US military has somewhat less than 200K men & women, 300 ships, a few thousand planes. We have a population of 280 MM and a GDP of $10 trillion. Congress just appropriated $40BB for this war, half of which is earkmarked for NYC. Vietnam cost $140 BB year pop gnp military ships planes year millionsbillionsmillion thousands 1940 132 100 0.5 300 3 1945 ? 400 13.5 6000 200 2001 280 10000 0.2 300 Sorry for the gaps. It looks we need more ships, men and planes. Our gnp is now 10 trillion."}, {"response": 525, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (17:43)", "body": "I was there when the first Taliban units were seen in Afghanistan circa 1986. They were all composed of Saudi and other foreign volunteers, and few took them very seriously since they did little actual fighting against the Russians. But they quickly allied with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezbi Islami group -- i.e., the fundamentalist wing of the Afghan resistance -- which was receiving the bulk of US arms and aid via Pakistani intelligence (SIS). Then, amidst the confusion and infighting within the resistance following the Soviet withdrawal, the Pak's chose to channel almost all their material support to the Taliban, who used it to gain power over a divided resistance movement and a peoiple utterly exhausted by war. I'd wager that if a free & fair referendum were conducted in Afghanistan today, the Taliban would receive fewer than 5% of the votes. Their army is largely conscript, their most fervent supporters are unsophisticated teenagers insulated in Taliban religious schools. Nothing they say or do has any relationship to historic Afghan customs & attitudes."}, {"response": 526, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (17:45)", "body": "Kathy Rockel was amazed when her United Airlines flight last weekend began with an extraordinary message from the pilot: He informed passengers how to rise up and fend off hijackers. ``If anybody stands up and is trying to take over the plane, stand up together, take whatever you have and throw it at their heads,'' she quoted the pilot as saying. ``You have to aim for their faces so they have to defend themselves.'' The pilot also said passengers could fight hijackers by throwing blankets over their heads, wrestling them to the ground and holding them until he landed, Rockel said. And referring to the ``we the people'' preamble to the Constitution, she recalled, he said, ``We will not be defeated.'' ``Everybody on the plane was applauding,'' said Rockel, a medical transcriptionist traveling from Denver to Washington, D.C., Sept. 15 on United's Flight 564. ``People had tears coming down their faces. It was as if we had a choice here, that if something were to happen we're not completely powerless.'' Continued @: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010921/us/attacks_taking_charge_1.html"}, {"response": 527, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (18:22)", "body": "A few new topics have been created in the news conference to deal with some more specific aspects of the World Trade Center attack and the ensuing global conflict: 43 526 Jumbo Jets crash in to World Trade Center 44 0 Media coverage of WTC attack and the aftermath 45 0 What can we do? What should we do? 46 0 suspension of civil liberties as a response to terrorism 47 0 coping with terrorism and a world gone to war 48 0 economic consequences of global war and terrorism 49 0 Finding Osama Bin Laden 50 0 What is the impact of the wtc crisis where you live?"}, {"response": 528, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (21:41)", "body": "\"A lot of thinking needs to be done, and perhaps is being done in Washington and elsewhere, about the ineptitude of American intelligence and counter- intelligence, about options available to American foreign policy, particularly in the Middle East, and about what constitutes a smart program of military defense.\" - Susan Sontag \"As for America's friends, they have rallied around us with alacrity. On Wednesday, the NATO allies, for the first time ever, invoked the mutual- defense clause of the alliance's founding treaty, formally declaring that \"an armed attack\" against oneQand what happened on September 11th, whether you call it terrorism or war, was certainly an armed attackQconstitutes an attack against all. This gesture of solidarity puts to shame the contempt the Bush Administration has consistently shown for international treaties and instruments, including those in areas relevant to the fight against terrorism, such as small-arms control, criminal justice, and nuclear proliferation. By now, it ought to be clear to even the most committed ideologues of the Bush Administration that the unilateralist approach it was pursuing as of last Tuesday is in urgent need of revaluation. The world will be policed collectively or it will not be policed at all.\" - Hendrik Hertzberg Both of these from the recent New Yorker."}, {"response": 529, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (22:25)", "body": "A couple of notable quotes from other pieces: In the decade since the end of the Cold War, the human race has become, with increasing rapidity, a single organism. Every kind of barrier to the free and rapid movement of goods, information and people has been lowered. The organism relies increasingly on a kind of trust -- the unsentimental expectation that people, individually and collectively, will behave more or less in their rational self-interest. -- Hendrik Hertzberg How do you take \"massive military action\" against the infrastructure of a stateless, compartmentalized \"army\" of fifty, or ten times fifty, whose weapons are rental cars, credit cards, and airline tickets? The scale of the damage notwithstanding, a more useful metaphor than war is crime. The terrorists of September 11th are outlaws within a global polity. They may enjoy the corrupt protection of a state (and corruption, like crime, can be ideological or spiritual as well as pecuniary in motive). But they do not constitute or control a state and do not even appear to aspir to control one. Their status and numbers are such that the task of dealing with them should be viewed as a police matter, of the most urgent kind. As with all criminal fugitives, the essential job is to find out who and where they are. -- Hendrik Hertzberg But fly again we must; risk is a price of freedom, and walking around Brooklyn Heights that afternoon, as ash drifted in the air and cars were few and open-air lunches continued as usual on Montague Street, renewed the impression that, with all its failings, this is a country worth fighting for. Freedom, reflected in the street's diversity and daily ease, felt palpable. It is mankind's elixir, even if a few turn it to poison. -- John Updike"}, {"response": 530, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (22:34)", "body": "James Woods was shown tonight answering telephones on the \"America: A Tribute to Heroes Telethon\". A lot of these rock stars and musicians looked heartbroken as they played and spoke. Paul Simon just sang bridge over Troubled Water and the parade of stars rolls on. Star studded is an understatement."}, {"response": 531, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (00:29)", "body": "David Kline again: The Taliban cannot be negotiated with. The council of clerics is more afraid of the Taliban than they are of the U.S. -- the Taliban, after all, are within actual rifle range and constitute a real and present threat, whereas the U.S. is (in their eyes) only a distant and vague *potential* threat. Hence the Council of Clerics decision. These councils, btw, historically have tended to defer to whomever had the biggest and nearest sword. Council of Clerics' decisions tend to drift with the winds of power, and have generally been considered by Afghans to be as binding and as relevant as, say, a Berkeley resolution declaring the city a \"nuclear free zone.\" Anyone seriously wishing to capture Bin Laden or otherwise deal with the Afghan aspect of this problem effectively should not pay much attention to either Taliban or Council of Clerics edicts."}, {"response": 532, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (01:16)", "body": "Without reading through a lot of posts to see if anyone answeed Laura, rhetorical question, we did pay reparations to the Japanese Americans we interred in WW2...$25,000 each."}, {"response": 533, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (05:31)", "body": "Hi all Jonathan Power, MSG 508: To lay all these problems at America's feet is to ignore Europe's culpability. The older Continent, if only on occasion wiser and better informed about the rest of the world, has only intermittently done much better. Now it must wake up too. Rob: I always wondered if Britain had anything to gain from it's loyalty to the United States, aside from being assured of assistance when it got into it's own troubles. I mean, what is there to gain from always supporting the United States sanctions on Iraq, the unconditional following of the United States when it attacks the Myanmar military regime politics and so on? Does Britain have a rule of basing it's foreign policy on the United States foreign policy? The few exceptions I have noted were the Kyoto Climate Protocol, for the sake of the Protocol, Britain did not have a choice since Bush was determined not to participate and it's relationship with European nations was at stake. This is however one time when I think European were dead on target, and that Japan was wise to support the protocol. Perhaps the best thing the European nations can do is deliver warnings to their embassies in the United States, on things where a potential split is likely, and back it up with a rebuke or rebuttal (call it what you may)of the United States stand if it clashes. The foreign policy of European nations need not be blindly tied as is possibly the case in Britain, with the United States on everything. Surely in one of the most civilised areas of the world, there are people who can give their nations original foreign policy. However, the best thing that can happen is Bush dropping his very arrogant \"take it or leave it\" attitude which is causing splits among countries that are usually closely tied. Russia and the United States share more in common than they probably think, but Russia has a valid point on the 1972 ABM Treaty, as does Beijing on the missile shield as a whole. I would normally not agree with them on this sort of thing, so this is quite significant coming from me. The worst thing that can happen on this issue is if North Korea decides to restart it's missile program. If this happens the United States has only itself to blame, because Clinton managed to break the ice. Finally, however, Europe can bring itself and the United States to their senses by taking a hard line on things like the Missile shield (which I think is going to restart the arms race and probably bring on a limited form of Cold War). I have absolutely no time for the $30 billion white elephant it may become. So, Europe is as much at fault as it's American neighbour. Rob"}, {"response": 534, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (08:06)", "body": "The today's climate of terrorism, missile shields seem like overkill, don't they Rob? It wouldn't have helped us 9/11. This is likely to thaw out the US now that we need an international coalition, that's the only way we can combat worldwide terrorism. For a map of how countries are taking sides in this coming global conflict, see 52 1 How do the world's countries line up in the terrorism war? in the news conference."}, {"response": 535, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (08:35)", "body": "Much of the Afghan intelligentia was systematically slaughtered between 1978-1982 by KGB-trained Afghan puppet police force. So many, in fact, that it was said to produce a statistical decline in the literacy rate of that country. Many of those that survived and did not flee the country -- e.g., stayed and fought with the resistance -- were then systematically butchered by the Taliban when they began to consolidate power. It's really a shame. There once were several million educated and modern-thinking Afghans like Tamim Ansary, the author of that wonderful article last week on why the Taliban do not respresent Afghanistan."}, {"response": 536, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (09:19)", "body": "The above should have been attributed to David Kline."}, {"response": 537, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (09:45)", "body": "Both of these from the recent New Yorker. Hendrik Hertzberg, Susan Sontag, John Updike,..... I only read The New Yorker for their cartoons & fiction features. I don't think that fiction authors know any more about international stategies than you or I."}, {"response": 538, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (11:34)", "body": "LOL! Add to that list Harold Pinter..."}, {"response": 539, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (12:07)", "body": "I don't think that fiction authors know any more about international stategies than you or I. Well said, Evelyn! Now that the number of missing/dead has gone up, could someone please post a current list with the total numbers by nationalities."}, {"response": 540, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (12:45)", "body": "Absolutely moon, I'll take Christianne Amanpour over Susan Sontag any day as a political commentator."}, {"response": 541, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (13:37)", "body": "Fox News has an excellent page with around the world dead and missing, but it has not been updated with the latest figures. http://www.foxnews.com/projects/americaunited/wtc_maps/worldinfo.htm The most recent information: Saturday, September 22 10:33 AM SGT US toll put at 6,818 as countries report more missing NEW YORK, Sept 21 (AFP) - The death toll from the attacks on the United States stood at 6,818 Saturday after 11 more bodies were pulled from the ruins of the World Trade Center. New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Friday the number of missing could still fluctuate as officials cross check reports of missing people. More than 60 countries have now reported citizens dead or missing, mostly in New York, one of the world's most cosmopolitan cities. But despite continuing round-the-clock rescue efforts, there was now next to no chance of pulling survivors from the rubble of the World Trade Center. UNITED STATES officials have given tallies that add up to 6,818 dead or missing in all the attacks of September 11, but they have still not established the total number of their nationals among the victims 11 days after the attack. In New York, 6,585 people were killed or listed as missing from the World Trade Center disaster (comprising 252 confirmed dead and 6,333 missing, presumed dead). Workers have identified 183 bodies, including those of 34 firemen. At the Pentagon, 189 people are confirmed dead or missing. So far, 117 bodies have been recovered, of which 52 have been identified as of Friday. The Department of Defense said search and recovery operations would continue. The missing figure at both sites include the 157 passengers and crew of the two hijacked aircraft that crashed into the World Trade Center and the 64 on the one that flew into the Pentagon. Adding the 44 on the hijacked plane that crashed in Pennsylvania, the number of people on the four planes is given as 265. (American Airlines flight 11, the first to hit the twin towers of the WTC, was carrying 92 passengers and crew; United Airlines flight 175, which hit the second tower, had 65 people on board; American Airlines flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, was carrying 64 people; and United Airlines 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania without reaching its target, had 44 on board.) ARGENTINA said four of its nationals were missing. AUSTRALIA said three of its nationals were confirmed dead. Another 20 who were in the top floors of the World Trade Center were missing, presumed dead, and consular staff in Canberra and New York were looking for another 32 Australians reported as missing. AUSTRIA said around 40 of its nationals were missing, one of them a 25-year-old woman named only as Alexandra H. who worked in a bank in the World Trade Center. BANGLADESH said at least 50 Bangladeshis were presumed killed in the carnage at the World Trade Center, where many worked in restaurants and offices. BELGIUM said one of its nationals was missing. BRAZIL said at least 55 of its nationals were missing. BRITAIN lost around 250 of its citizens, according to New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. BULGARIA said that one of its citizens was missing. CAMBODIA said it feared that some 20 of its nationals were missing following the attacks. CANADA said three of its nationals were confirmed dead and between 35 and 40 were still missing. CHILE's New York consulate said two of its nationals were missing and feared dead, although more than 250 have been reported missing by relatives. CHINA said two Chinese nationals were killed and another was missing. A man and woman, both in their 60s, died aboard the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. Chinese authorities originally said three people had died, but the foreign ministry revised the figure, saying that a man, Chen Xiaobing, had been rescued from the lower floors of the building. A 41-year-old Chinese was reported missing. COLOMBIA's consulate in New York said two of its nationals were killed -- one aboard an American Airlines plane that slammed into the side of the twin towers -- while 10 others were missing. Earlier, Colombia's Red Cross had said that 295 people were reported missing. While 17 people worked in the twin towers, others may have been present in the area at the time. The CZECH REPUBLIC said 56 of its citizens who had been in the United States were unaccounted for. Of those, up to 15 nationals were thought to have been in New York or Washington at the time of the attacks, according to the foreign ministry. DENMARK's foreign ministry said that all of its citizens previously reported missing had turned up safe and sound and that there had therefore been no Danish casualties in the attacks. The DOMINICAN REPUBLIC said one citizen, a paramedic, was found dead and 30 are missing, according to the country's consulate in New York. ECUADOR listed seven citizens as dead, including one who was a passenger on a hijacked airliner, and 29 missing. EGYPT's ambassador to the United States said four Egyptians were feared dea"}, {"response": 542, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (22:52)", "body": "Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:25:26 -0400 From: \"cpmcnel@usit.net\" To: \"terry@www.spring.net\" Subject: RE: WTC - How do you feel? [ The following text is in the \"iso-8859-1\" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the \"US-ASCII\" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Hi Paul, Carol Nelson here. I am in south Florida baby sitting my grandchildren. We drove down The Farm last week through hurricane Gabriella. My Daughter Kim McCusker and her husband Paul are in NYC, ground zero. They are part of the search and rescue team deployed from the Miami-Dade Area. They are both highly trained K-9 search and rescue fire fighters.They have been there about a week already and will probably not retutn until the end of next week. So we are getting first hand info on a daily basis. Not Good! I have a friend that works around the block on Broad street. She called me after the first hit and we were on the phone when the second plane hit. You could hear and feel it thru the phone lines. I heard Michael Gavin's cousin was in one of the bulidings and is missing. All the talk of WAR is so bad. So hard to hear and think about. All I can do is continue to pray for peace. Peace Carol"}, {"response": 543, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (22:58)", "body": "Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:23:33 -0700 From: Gerald Wheeler To: Paul Terry Walhus Subject: Re: WTC - How do you feel? it is now about midnight sept. 21, 2001...autumn equinox, i am in oakland california, i just finished watching the a's beat seattle in the first game of a three game series, between innings i flipped over a channel to watch what most everyone else that was watching television tonight was probably watching, the fund-raiser and tribute to those who died ten days ago in the attacks on the wtc and the pentagon and the final plane that was brought down most likely by a group of courageous passengers who took on the hijackers and crashed that plane in a field in pennsylvania, so many heroes keep emerging from the center of the tragedy, and what a powerful assembly there on the tv, i am moved by the sense that we as a nation, for the first time in my memory, have been brought together like never before, and it's real and it's full of power and authenticity and i catch a glimmer of something inside of me that suddenly says that america really is worth saving, and i let that glimmer grow into more of a flame and i see that for all of its' faults, there just isn't anything or any other place like this place and the freedom that it provides everyone of us who share its' soil...i think about what to do about achieving justice and how it is a good idea to take the time to let things settle in the mind and calm that which cries out for revenge, because revenge is knee-jerk and full of anger and confusion and does not offer real satisfaction because its' results are uneven and because an uneven response creates more suffering...i think about who or what the enemy really is and i come to the conclusion that the enemy is not the taliban or hezbollah or the islamic jihad or osama bin laden or fundamentalist christians or fundamentalist jews or fundamentalist moslems or jerry falwell or yassar arrafat or north korea or chevron oil or suicide bombers or the bible or the koran...it is evil...the real enemy is simply evil, evil in whatever form and shape it may incarnate into at any time or place, and i think about how it is imperative that we learn to recognize evil in all its' forms and whenever and wherever it appears, and that we take sufficient care to respond in ways in which its' effects are cancelled and diffused, and this applies to the everyday, right under our nose kinds of evil, out to the broader, affecting all of humanity kinds as well, and that how we respond will determine the outcome of events in the future, and i think about what that means to me individually and i am reminded of how grateful i am that i have a way to get calm, that i learned how to meditate thirty years ago and try to practice on a regular basis, oh it doesn't always prevent one from getting caught in the cross-fire but sometimes it seems like it helps slow down the bullets so that you can see where to not step, non-action thru action, and makes you aware that everything begins in the mind, everything, so the key is to tame the fury of the mind, and transform pain and hardship into compassion and real strength by doing so, we individually hold the answer to our situation but to see that clearly we must first conquer the fury...om mani padme om! --all the best, gerald wheeler"}, {"response": 544, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (23:59)", "body": "David Kline (dkline) Sat Sep 22 '01 (12:11) 49 lines There's also a difference between saying the US \"created\" Bin Laden and the Taliban and saying -- much more correctly -- that our policies *contributed* (mostly indirectly) to their emergence and rise to power. The US funded the already-fighting Afghan resistance to Soviet occupation beginning in the early 1980s -- as well it should have. But the problem was, beginning in about 1983-84 and despite warnings from many people (l'il ol' me included), the US allowed the Pakistani intelligence services (SIS) to channel the great bulk of that aid to the fanatical fundamentalist wing of the resistance, called Hezbi Islami. (And just to be clear, the fundamentalists did almost NO fighting against the Russians during the war. They concentrated their fire on rival resistance groups such as Ahmed Shah massoud's \"Northern Alliance.\") The Paks had their own reasons for doing this, of course, including influence within SIS from Pakistan's own emerging fundamentalists (Jamiatt Islami), as well as a desire to see a liberated but weak Afghanistan. But still, it was our guns and money, and we should have funneled it equally to all forces actually fighting for liberation from the USSR, or if we were really smart, mostly to forces (such as Massoud or Mr. Rabbani or even the Gailani clan) with whom we could expect to have a civil conversation and normal state relations in a post-Soviet Afghanistan. But Washington claimed its hands were tied and it couldn't intervene in Pakistan's \"internal affairs.\" Remember, during the 80s the US was very concerned to keep Pakistan within the anti-Soviet orbit, even if it meant looking the other way re: nuclear development or how much arms & money went to which rebel forces. I'm not saying that was right -- in fact, I urged responsible officials to stop allowing our aid to be channeled to the fundamentalists before they became too strong. But this sort of \"Realpolitik\" was very much SOP for Washington during the 1970s and 80s. As the Soviets neared defeat in Afghanistan in 1985-86, Saudi fanatics such as Bin Laden and other foreign Arab volunteers began pouring in to Afghanistan. By 1987-88, the Soviets were gone and the US (in another stupid move) swung its aid pendulum to the other extreme and basically abandoned the Afghan people to starve. In the years that followed, then, the emergent Taliban were aided and abetted both by Afghanistan's small fundamentalist wing (Hezbi Islami) as well as by the Pak SIS, now dominated by Jamiat Islami (Pakistani fundamentalist) forces. And in the end, the Taliban filled the vacumn left by 20 years of a near genocidal war against the Soviets. The rest is history. Sorry to be a broken record on this, but it just riles me to hear people spout half-truths about who the Taliban are and how they emerged -- as if Washington's myopia circa 1984-85 justfies what happened at the WTC."}, {"response": 545, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 23, 2001 (00:02)", "body": "September 22, 2001 THE INVESTIGATION Tape Reveals Wild Struggle on Flight 93 By JAMES RISEN and DAVID JOHNSTON ASHINGTON, Sept. 21 \ufffd A desperate and wild struggle took place aboard the hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 before it crashed in southwestern Pennsylvania, according to the plane's cockpit voice recorder, law enforcement officials said today. The recording has been played for Attorney General John Ashcroft and the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, the officials said. And while it did not provide a clear or complete picture, it seemed certain that there was a chaotic confrontation that apparently led to the crash of the jet. In another development, American intelligence officials said today they believed that the assassination of the leader of the anti- Taliban alliance in Afghanistan on Sept. 9 was probably carried out by associates of Osama bin Laden. The assassination appears to have been the first step in the terror plot that culminated in the attacks on the United States two days later, the officials said. The voice recorder picked up scuffling sounds as well as shouts in Arabic and English, the officials said, but listeners have not been able to discern what was happening or who among the passengers, crew members or hijackers was involved in the struggle. In the past week, officials have said that the passengers appeared to have stormed the cockpit after the four hijackers commandeered the flight. That account has been based primarily on cellphone conversations between passengers and people on the ground. Technical experts are continuing their efforts to enhance the sounds from the cockpit listening device, which uses microphones in the headsets of the pilots and mounted on the cockpit ceiling. Mr. Mueller visited the crash site on Thursday after he received a preliminary briefing on the recorder's contents. He said that the passengers heroically prevented the hijackers from striking their target, an undetermined site in Washington. \"I think both of us here and \ufffd both the attorney general and I and the attorney general of Pennsylvania have indicated we believe those passengers on this jet were absolute heroes and their actions during this flight were heroic,\" he said. \" continued at http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/22/national/22INQU.html?todaysheadlines"}, {"response": 546, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sun, Sep 23, 2001 (01:45)", "body": "A Former Pakistani Prime Minister Weighs In By Benazir Bhutto Friday, Sept. 21, 2001 Little in life springs from whole cloth. That is especially true of Sept. 11, 2001, a date stained into the calendar of civilization. This was a calamity two decades in the making. At the end of 1979, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, hoping to strengthen their position in Central Asia and develop proximity to the resources and warm ports of the Gulf. Almost immediately an indigenous insurrection developed to challenge the Soviet occupation. The freedom fighters were called the \"Mujahadeen\" and were composed of seven different factions. In its early days, the Reagan administration made a decision that would shape the course of history. It backed the one faction most likely to successfully challenge the Soviets on the battlefield. Working with their counterparts in the Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the CIA armed, trained, and empowered the most extreme, anti-modernity, anti-Western zealots within the Mujahadeen. This propelled the extremists to a leadership position in the war of resistance and in the politics that followed. The war in Afghanistan caused one of the great refugee migrations in modern history. Nearly three million Afghans crossed into Pakistan to escape the fighting. Almost immediately scores of special Islamic schools, called Madrassas, sprang up. The boys that were sent there by their parents to be nourished and educated were taught extremism, intolerance, subjugation of women, and violence. All of these elements are antithetical to the Holy Book and to the teachings of the Prophet. When the children were not being brainwashed, they were trained in hand-to-hand combat, the use of weapons, and terrorist strategy. These schools became the recruitment centers for the fanatic administration that ultimately took control of Afghanistan after the Soviet exit. The new political movement was named after the schools themselves. The word \"Talib\" means student! I became prime minister of Pakistan in 1988 during the waning days of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. The last Soviet troops were airlifted out of Afghanistan on Feb. 15, 1989. The international community quickly turned its attention to events in Europe and the fall of the Berlin Wall. I was left concerned at the lack of a post-Soviet plan for the reconstruction and governing of Afghanistan. I was also concerned at the go-at-it-alone attitude of the extremist factions that wanted the government, and ultimately they prevailed. I suspected that having defeated one superpower, the zealots felt invincible and divinely empowered to take aim at another. As a moderate, progressive, democratically elected woman prime minister of Pakistan, I was a threat to the fundamentalist zealots on multiple levels and targeted by them in both my governments. They had the support of sympathetic elements within Pakistan's security apparatus and the financial support of people like Osama Bin Laden. I had closed their training university in Peshawar and was targeted for that. I had tracked down and extradited the Ramzi Yousef, the perpetrator of the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, and was targeted for that. My government was destabilized. Money was pilfered and laundered from state banks to fund the campaigns of opposition parties. We learned from Ramzi Yousef before he was extradited to the United States that I was the object of two separate assassination attempts in 1993. Osama Bin Laden personally spent over $10 million in late 1989 in support of a motion of no confidence to topple my government. And ultimately, with the active support of elements of the Pakistani ilitary, my two democratically elected governments were sacked and elections rigged to ensure that my party would not return to power. Beware the power of zealots who are well-funded, well-armed, and supported by elements of your own government! That brings us to the present. A complex and well-funded terrorist network executed the most inhuman terrorist attack in history. The target was America, but it was also the values of freedom everywhere. It seemed Osama and his cohorts read Professor Samuel Huntington's The Clash of Civilizations and wished to provoke its thesis into reality. Their goal is for the Muslim world to see U.S. retaliation as an act of aggression against Islam. Sept. 11 was the bait. Sadly, this is not over. The United States responded quickly in declaring a fight against international terrorism and cautioned it will be a long process. Asked to assist the U.S. effort against terrorism, Islamabad responded positively. It did this despite elements within the military intelligence complex that have sympathy for the Taliban. Pakistan is saddled with $38 billion in international debt, with $4 billion owed to America. With Egypt and Jordan, the United States has repaid political support with debt retirement in the past. Islamabad expects the same treatment. It also expects the repeal o"}, {"response": 547, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Sep 24, 2001 (16:35)", "body": "For some idea of what the rest of the world is up against, I recommend this little essay of a book report with thanks to JSK for suggesting I read it: PROPHETS, CULTS AND MADNESS http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/bookreviews/r/stevens-price-2.html"}, {"response": 548, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 24, 2001 (23:11)", "body": "From: William Meyers To: tincanman99@aol.com, paul@spring.net, melvyn@freewwweb.com, mmc@well.com, moon93@aol.com, pgribbin@megs.inet.net, malysaght@aol.com, dfrohman@aol.com Subject: a subway ride Postapocalyptic Meditations 23 September 2001 Thursday morning of last week I was taking the subway to work as usual, about nine in the morning, down from Morningside Heights to our office on 62nd Street, across from Lincoln Center. The train was packed full of people, as it always is in the morning rush hour, and I found a nook in which to tuck myself, next to the motorman's small compartment, at thefront of the train. There was enough space around me there to hold up my copy of the day's newspaper and read the first paragraphs of the stories on the front page, but only by keeping the paper folded in half. BUSH ORDERS HEAVY BOMBERS NEAR AFGHANS; DEMANDS BIN LADEN NOW, NOT NEGOTIATIONS That was the headline on the Late Edition of Thursday's Times. At the 96th Street station, where the local train shares the platform with the express and much movement of people from one train to the other goes on, a moment of panic suddenly struck. Shouts of alarm, screams of terror grabbed everyone's attention in the car where I was still standing. Outside the window people were running past the front of the train and toward the 94th Street exit. Inside the car people were yelling, \"What's happening? What's going on?\" Outside on the platform, they were too busy trying to get away to hear anything but their own terrified voices. It occurred to me that at that moment, or any succeeding one, a blinding white flash and explosion could instantly obliterate me and everyone around me. I waited for that to happen, as one moment succeeded the next. The crush of beings outside the train kept struggling for the exit. Then the door of the motorman's compartment opened, and the motorman -- tall and commanding, studded with communications gear -- emerged to assess the scene. I was thinking, \"Just keep moving, man!\" But I couldn't utter a word. He spoke something into his intercom about how there was \"an altercation\" on the platform that needed to be investigated. Then he got back into his compartment and shut the door. I prayed that that would be the end of it and the doors of the train would close. The doors closed, and the train moved out. The south end of the platform slipped by, and the lights of the station fell behind us, overtaken by the darkness of the tunnel. People looked at each other in fear and relief. At some point before we reached the next station, 86th Street -- a local stop -- I realized how much adrenalin had been pumping through my body. Slumping against the door of the motorman's compartment, I closed my eyes and waited for the enormous rush of energy to pass. By the time we reached 66th Street, where I exited the subway, I was thinking that the story of whatever had happened back there would be emerging in the media soon and that I should be on the lookout and looking closely for it. The person in the token booth at 66th Street had no idea what had happened back up the line. It was still too early, I thought. What could have happened? What did \"altercation\" mean? Had a fistfight broken out? Had it been \"to the death\"? Did one or both of the fighters look Arabic? Had one of them pulled a gun, or a bomb, or a flask of anthrax? Nothing was reported later in the media. At least nothing came within range of my own sensors. Apparently it had been just another routine incident -- one of all too many that have been occurring in our lives here for the last couple of weeks. I think it would be safe to say that the stressload in Manhattan has been reaching a maximum tolerance level. But it's the new reality. -- Wm"}, {"response": 549, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (14:18)", "body": "Today, in a short while, on All Things Considered. 09.25.01 The Bin Laden Group is a diversified corporation with an estimated $5 billion in annual revenue. It's owned and run by the Saudi family of accused terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. The allegations against the \"black sheep\" of the Bin Laden family have created serious trouble for the family business as partners and associates are backing away. Hear about the Bin Laden Group, Tuesday on All Things Considered."}, {"response": 550, "author": "winter", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (18:15)", "body": "I received the following from my advisor, who used to work for Amnesty International in the UK. He's got friends working at the BBC, and this memo came out recently: -----Original Message----- From: Internal Communications Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: CNN USING 1991 FOOTAGE This email is being sent to all staff ------------------------------------------- There's an important point in the power of press, specifically the Power of CNN. All around the world we are subjected to 3 or 4 huge news distributors, and one of them - as you well know - is CNN. Very well, I guess all of you have been seeing (just as I've been) images from this company. In Particular, one set of images caught my attention: the Palestinians celebrating the bombing, out on the streets, eating celebration sweets and making funny faces for the camera. Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN 1991!!! Those are images of Palestinians celebrating the invasion of Kuwait! It's simply unacceptable that a super-power of communications as CNN uses images which do not correspond to the reality in talking about so serious of an issue. At the BBC here, we have these footages on videotapes recorded in 1991, with the very same images. But now, think for a moment about the impact of such images. Your people are hurt, emotionally fragile, and this kind of broadcast has very high possiblity of causing waves of anger and rage against the Palestinians. It's simply irresponsible to show images such as those. Russell Grossman | Head of Internal Communication | BBC Third Floor | London Broadcasting House | LONDON W1A 1AA"}, {"response": 551, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (18:53)", "body": "Patriotism, athletics go hand in hand 09/24/2001 Dave Kindred The Sporting News A brilliant day, a Friday in the fall, the sun warm on our backs, we walked to the south portico of the United States Capitol. From that high place we saw in the middle distance the Washington Monument, and we saw, at the far end, the Lincoln Memorial. When we saw all that before us on a beautiful day in a fall of sadness, my friend Verenda said, \ufffdWow.\ufffd Because we live in Washington, we have seen these places a thousand times. But Verenda had it right. Wow. To see these places now, to see them after September 11, is to see them anew. So we walked from the Capitol, and we walked for hours. We saw the bronze of a Civil War general on horseback, soldiers hanging onto an artillery caisson clattering to his side. We saw our faces in mirrored black granite that moans of Vietnam dead. We stood in a marble temple and read on a wall a president's words: \ufffdThe brave men, living and dead, who struggled here . . .\ufffd We stopped in a museum to see the Star-Spangled Banner. By the dawn's early light of September 14, 1814, the massive flag yet waved over Baltimore's Fort McHenry. Americans had outlasted a British siege that (a survivor said) \ufffdthrew at least 1,800 shells among us. We were like pigeons tied by the legs to be shot at.\ufffd The lawyer Francis Scott Key saw that flag and in a poem called his nation \ufffdthe land of the free and the home of the brave.\ufffd We saw three helicopters descend to the White House, always three to confuse an enemy, the three flying under the thunderous cover of fighter jets. We saw flowers left on the Mall by some people from Mongolia who have embraced America. We saw a president's words cut into purple stone: \ufffdThe only thing we have to fear is fear itself.\ufffd The night before our walk, Lisa Beamer came to the Capitol. Her husband had risen against fear. When hijackers thought to fly to Washington -- to destroy the White House? the Capitol? -- Todd Beamer did the kind of brave, selfless thing that is the beating heart of a nation made and sustained by brave, selfless people. Passengers knew planes had crashed into buildings. Beamer and three other men decided to act. Ten years ago, he had been a basketball guard and baseball shortstop/centerfielder at Wheaton College in Illinois. \ufffdGood athlete with good speed, batted second for us, led off sometimes . . . a very solid leader . . . deeply religious . . . very unselfish,\ufffd said his old baseball coach, Ron Frank. \ufffdWhat he did is in total keeping with the man he was.\ufffd Beamer couldn't reach his wife by phone. He asked a GTE Airfone supervisor to recite with him the Lord's Prayer and to call his wife. The last words the supervisor heard from Todd Beamer were these: \ufffdAre you guys ready? Let's roll.\ufffd United Flight 93 soon crashed into the Pennsylvania countryside, apparently taken down in a struggle between passengers and hijackers. Nine days later, Lisa Beamer came to the Capitol to hear President Bush address the nation. \ufffdSeeing the Capitol lit up, it's just glorious,\ufffd she said. \ufffdLawmakers all thanked me for what Todd did. Not only the lives saved, but imagine the emotional devastation to this nation if the Capitol no longer existed.\ufffd Let's roll. Saturday morning, going to a football game in Annapolis, we turned toward Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium, turning on Farragut Road, named for the sailor who 137 years ago said, \ufffdDamn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!\ufffd Such men, such a nation. If ever you need reminded of what America is and what it can be, turn down Farragut Road and spend a Saturday afternoon at a Navy football game. There you might talk to a retired captain, Dick Riley of Des Moines, Iowa, class of \ufffd42 with 26 years of active duty. He's 81 years old and on a Saturday in Annapolis he says, \ufffdWe graduated 12 days after Pearl Harbor, 563 of us, and we lost 28 in the war. I pray that today's Midshipmen, special kids each and every one, have as thoroughly fulfilling experiences as I did serving our country.\ufffd Thirty thousand people came to a stadium where even the walls speak of courage: IWO JIMA, MIDWAY, NORMANDY, INCHON, QUANG TRI. The thousands saw a fighter jet fly-over. They heard Francis Scott Key's poem sung a cappella. Just before noon, linebackers Mike Chiesl and Dan Ryno led Navy onto the field in an all-out sprint. They carried high an American flag. No one had ever done that for a Navy game. But never before had there been a September 11, 2001. At dinner Friday night, Chiesl and Ryno had seen the flag in a corner of a hotel lobby. Permission, sir, to liberate the flag. Granted. \ufffdWe wanted to do that for the Naval Academy,\ufffd Chiesl said. \ufffdAnd we were doing it for all of America.\ufffd He's a Texan, a big one, and he stood tall. His eyes were those of a happy young man with journeys to make. When he smiled, he was as handsome as a flag seen by the dawn's early light. Dave Kindred is a contributing writer for The Sporting News. Email him at kindred@sportingnews.com."}, {"response": 552, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (20:04)", "body": "It's simply unacceptable that a super-power of communications as CNN uses images which do not correspond to the reality in talking about so serious of an issue. Welcome to real world. :-( Mr.Orwell we need you)"}, {"response": 553, "author": "lafn", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (20:30)", "body": "Memo to BBC. That footage was shown by all the TV stations, not just CNN. They sure sound high and mighty."}, {"response": 554, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (22:27)", "body": "Don't make the mistake of watching CBC new on C_SPAN. I came as close to hurling something through my television as I ever have. If we are so loathesome give us back our aid and cease trading with us. As for the media....don't you wonder whose side they're on?! Whose best interest in mind? Other than their own?! Let me hasten to add that I know more nice Canadians than I do Canadian Broadcasting writers... It just infuriated me. The BBC has gone down the tubes I hear from local UK'ers. even they hunt for a more reliable source of news."}, {"response": 555, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (23:16)", "body": "MSNBC did a real good story tonight on the Taliban and the Afghan Northern Alliance. They showed some good footage of Massoud (referenced earlier in this topic) who has been pleading with the West for years to give him just a little bit of aid. He said words to the effect that \"give me a little help and I'll take care of Bin Laden for you, otherwise their will be grave consequences for the West. What better indication of Bin Laden's guilt than the assasination of Massoud just one day for the World Trade Center attack?"}, {"response": 556, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 25, 2001 (23:18)", "body": ""}, {"response": 557, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (01:48)", "body": "Message 550:\" In Particular, one set of images caught my attention: the Palestinians celebrating the bombing, out on the streets, eating celebration sweets and making funny faces for the camera.\" \"Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN 1991!!! Those are images of Palestinians celebrating the invasion of Kuwait!\" --------------------------------- CNN statement about false claim it used old video Brazilian university statement says no fact to original claim September 20, 2001 Posted: 4:02 PM EDT (2002 GMT) CNN asks that you copy and e-mail this statement to whomever asks about it.) There is absolutely no truth to the information that is now distributed on the Internet that CNN used 10-year-old video when showing the celebrating of some Palestinians in East Jerusalem after the terror attacks in the U.S. The video was shot that day by a Reuters camera crew. CNN is a client of Reuters and like other clients, received the video and broadcast it. Reuters officials have publicly made the facts clear as well. The allegation is false. The source of the allegation has withdrawn it and apologized. It was started by a Brazilian student who now says he immediately posted a correction once he knew the information was not true. This is the statement by his university -- UNICAMP -- Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil. Again, please read this -- and copy it -- and send it to anyone you know who may have the false information. Thank you. OFFICIAL STATEMENT by Universidad de Campinas-Brasil 17/09/01 UNICAMP (Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil) would like to announce that it has no knowledge of a videotape from 1991, whose images supposedly aired on CNN showing Palestinians celebrating the terrorist attacks in the U.S. The tape was supposedly from 1991, and there were rumors that the images were passed off as current. This information was later denied, as soon as it proved false, by M\ufffdrcio A. V. Carvalho, a student at UNICAMP. He approached the administration today, 17.09.2001, to clarify the following: -- the information he got, verbally, was that a professor from another institution (not from UNICAMP) had the tape; -- he sent the information to a discussion group e-mail list; -- many people from this list were interested in the subject and requested more details; -- he again contacted the person who first gave him the information and the person denied having the tape; -- the student immediately sent out a note clarifying what happened to the people from his e-mail list. The original message, however, was distributed all over the world, often with many distortions, including a falsified by-line article from the student. He affirms that a hacker attacked his domain. Several E-mails have been sent on his behalf and those dating from 15.09.2001 should be ignored. Among the distortions is the fact that UNICAMP would be analyzing the tape, which is absolutely false. The administration considers this alert definitive and will be careful to avoid new rumors. http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/20/cnn.statement/ ------------------------------------- Nevertheless, there have been many(talking heads,\"experts\", writers)who have questioned exactly how that videotape came to be - not that it did not happen, rather, was it staged? who exactly were the people? where exactly was it?, etc."}, {"response": 558, "author": "Bethanne", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (03:18)", "body": "People, I live in Atlanta ( the home of CNN )and I have many friends ( including the Senior Copy Editor for CNN Headline News ) who work at CNN Center downtown, so I gotta speak up on their behalf. CNN would NOT stoop to such a shabby, lazy and downright dishonest tactic, of showing 10 year old footage, while claiming it was current. CNN got taken to the cleaners a couple of years ago, about a story they ran (about biological warfare ) that later turned out to be false. Many, many heads rolled as a result and the public perception of CNN being the first place we all turn to for \"accurate\" breaking news, took a major, major hit. As a result, they double check, triple check and quadrupile check the veracity of ALL stories/film footage BEFORE it is broadcast. Also, it is worth noting.....ALL the major US networks ( ABC, Fox, CBS, NBC )broadcast this footage of the Palestinains dancing in the streets, it wasn't just CNN."}, {"response": 559, "author": "fitzwd", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (06:09)", "body": "(Marcia) Without reading through a lot of posts to see if anyone answeed Laura, rhetorical question, we did pay reparations to the Japanese Americans we interred in WW2...$25,000 each. Aside from the fear factor that was going around after the Pearl Harbor attack, there were politicians and business people who took advantage of the situation and actually fanned the fire, which ultimately led to the internment. The J-Americans happened to reside on land that is now considered prime real estate in Southern California (think of areas like Santa Monica and Orange County). While the general public viewed the internment as safeguarding America, little did the public know that there were those behind the scenes who had a hidden agenda and who helped manipulate the hysteria and sought to profit from the situation by taking over the real estate (shades of the movie Chinatown and water rights). While some survivors received reparations, it was a mere pittance compared to the value of the land that they lost, where EACH parcel is worth several millions today. These J-Americans had to endure humiliation and financial ruin, and were the victims of ugly racisim and greed, yet they picked up the pie es of their shattered lives and continued to live as proud Americans."}, {"response": 560, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (09:32)", "body": "Had no idea their property was confiscated. How on earth was that done legally...in this country?"}, {"response": 561, "author": "mari", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (12:19)", "body": "How on earth was that done legally...in this country? I have the same question. Thanks to Suzee for posting the article debunking the story about the CNN photo. It smelled like urban legend to me, right from the start. Am quickly learning that while the Internet is a great place to share opinions, the facts often suffer."}, {"response": 562, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (12:30)", "body": "There's emminent domain for when a government entity wants property for the public good (debatable) in which owners receive some compensation though not anywhere near market value. It has been used for the railroads, schools and other public-private development efforts. Saw a piece on a news magazine show recently on how some town is trying to use it to acquire a whole neighborhood for a Target store. People are up in arms."}, {"response": 563, "author": "fitzwd", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (12:31)", "body": "How on earth was that done legally...in this country? How on earth was internment of citizens -- not foreign nationals -- U.S. CITIZENS, done legally in this country? Where was the evidence of a threat to national security?"}, {"response": 564, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (12:40)", "body": "Not to excuse anyone's behavior and the complete lack of reason and illegality, people tend to go a little hysterical when a country's military installation is attacked. There are numerous examples in our history...unfortunately. When there is a threat from a foreign country, people turn xenophobic just as is occurring now. It is interesting to me that we've learned from our past when I see the PR campaigns to educate the ignorant members of our society."}, {"response": 565, "author": "Moon", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (12:53)", "body": "It is interesting to me that we've learned from our past when I see the PR campaigns to educate the ignorant members of our society. Better late than never. Will they go back to being their ignorant selves once the Fall TV season starts?"}, {"response": 566, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (14:48)", "body": "Depends on their diet of *reality* TV and idiotic night-time quiz shows."}, {"response": 567, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (17:50)", "body": "From: Gerald Wheeler Subject: well worth considering i'd recommend this to all: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/09/26/ED69828.DTL"}, {"response": 568, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Sep 26, 2001 (18:28)", "body": "Jerome Karabel is a professor of sociology at the University of California at Berkeley and a senior fellow at the Rockridge Institute You want *me* to take some academic from *Berkeley* serious??? Those dudes consistently make government - bashing their #1 indoor sport."}, {"response": 569, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 27, 2001 (00:40)", "body": "Ah yes, Angela Davis taught there, no? Does she still? Kiddies go do your homework!"}, {"response": 570, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Sep 27, 2001 (01:11)", "body": "......How on earth was that done legally...in this country? .... The US government started to lay the groundwork for controlling subversive activities prior to Pearl Harbor (but in anticipation of joining the war) by passing a slew of new laws. These included the Smith Act, basically intended to suppress \"disloyalty.\" Roosevelt signed an Executive Order in 1942, giving the army broad power to \"exclude\" questionable persons from certain areas. A month or so later, he signed a bill passed by congress making it criminal to disobey the order. I think the legal basis for the internment was the \ufffdAlien Enemies Act\ufffd passed 150 or so years before. It allowed alien internment during wartime. At first, some people tried to move to other locations, but there was really no place to go. Wherever they tried to go, the fear and outcry was so great that the government then disallowed it and started to round them up. Those being removed were given 5 days notice and told to dispose of property. The government made some kind of vague offer to store property for them, but at the same time refused to be liable for it. They sold what they could, but obviously many had to \ufffdabandon\ufffd their homes, boats, businesses, etc. Japanese-Americans lost millions in property and income and it was not just the Japanese. Germans and Italians were interned, as were some conscientious objectors. I hope Karen is right that we have learned from our past history. I am not yet sure. You can read Executive Order 9066 here: http://www.foitimes.com/internment/EO9066.html"}, {"response": 571, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Sep 27, 2001 (07:29)", "body": "The more I research the foundations of the al-Qaeda movement, the more depressing it gets. Take a look at the article from which this quote is taken. It's from the work fo a Harvard prof who was researching schools in Pakistan that teach jihad. Here's a quotation from her article: This is some research regarding the4 al-Qaeda movement by a Harvard Professor who researched schools in Parkistan that teach jihad as a discipline. \"I want to talk to you as I would talk to my own daughter,\" he suddenly said. \"You believe too much in science. Science turns a cheap thing like a piece of metal into something valuable, like an airplane. \"Have you ever thought that you could become precious yourself? The way for a human being to become precious is to obey the principles of the one who created us. The way to become precious is through jihad. Nobody knows when he will die, so you must start the journey toward Islam,\" he told me kindly. http://www.bullatomsci.org/issues/2001/jf01/jf01stern.html Here's another excerpt from that article: What happens to families whose children become martyrs? Most of the mothers I interviewed said they were happy to have donated their sons to jihad because their sons could help them in the next life--the \"real life.\" Syed Qurban Hussain, the father of a martyr, said, \"Whoever gives his life in the way of Allah lives forever and earns a place in heaven for 70 members of his family, to be selected by the martyr.\" Families of martyrs become celebrities after their children die. \"Everyone treats me with more respect now that I have a martyred son,\" Hussain added. \"And when there is a martyr in the village, it encourages more children to join the jihad. It raises the spirit of the entire village.\" http://pakistannation.net/ActionAlerts/Alert_pakwar.htm"}, {"response": 572, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Sep 27, 2001 (17:41)", "body": "From what I have read lately about the Bin Lauden siblings, they want nothing whatever to do with him - no matter his status!"}, {"response": 573, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 28, 2001 (08:32)", "body": "The Al Queda organization has been ripped open and exposed by ABC News. Inside Al Qaeda Bin Laden Defector Ties Hijack Suspect to Training Camp Sept. 26 \ufffd A defector from Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization, al Qaeda, has told ABCNEWS that one of the men accused of hijacking the planes used in the Sept. 11 attacks trained with him at one of the terrorist mastermind's camps in Afghanistan. MORE ON THIS STORY FULL COVERAGE \ufffd America Attacked VIDEO \ufffd Former bin Laden Soldier Speaks Out \ufffd A Nation United: Full Video Coverage COMMUNITY \ufffd ABCNEWS' John Miller on Meeting Bin Laden RELATED STORIES \ufffd John Miller Interviews Bin Laden (May 1998) \ufffd FBI Releases Photos, Seeks Public Tips \ufffd Inside the Taliban \ufffd Pilot Arrested in London Instructed Suspected Hijackers \ufffd The Other Victims of Sept. 11: Pets \ufffd Can New Buildings be Built Any Stronger? The defector said he trained for six months at a camp in Afghanistan to become an intelligence agent for bin Laden. When shown photographs of the 19 hijackers, the defector said he recognized one of them, a man federal investigators have identified as Majed Moqed, a possible Saudi national. \"Yeah \ufffd He was with my class ... I could recognize him from his face,\" the defector said. \"He is from Saudi Arabia, and he is about 25 to 30 years old.\" The Department of Justice has identified Moqed as one of five men suspected of taking control of American Airlines Flight 77 and crashing the plane into the Pentagon. If the defector is right, he may have provided an important link between bin Laden and the hijackers. Federal investigators have said they have concrete information linking one or more of the hijackers to al Qaeda but they have not publicly linked any of the suspects directly to bin Laden or his camps. The defector, who is now living outside Afghanistan, said he was shocked by the attacks, but not surprised that the attackers were willing to give their lives for bin Laden and his cause. \"Yes, I was shocked, but I know them better than that. They are not only 19 people. There are a thousand people who want to sacrifice themselves for bin Laden, not only 19. There are more than a thousand. All of them \ufffd in Europe, in Canada or in Saudi Arabia \ufffd all of them want to do this kind of actions. Terrorist actions.\" He said there were 18 other students in his class at the training camp. He said he received training in how to conduct surveillance and how to gather detailed information on potential targets. He said he heard people talk of hijacking airliners, but that he never heard anything about a plot to crash jets into buildings in New York and Washington. He said bin Laden spoke to his class several times, warning that the United States and Israel wanted to destroy Islam, and that they must be destroyed first. He said his 18 fellow students were sent home to cities in Europe, the Middle East and Canada where they were to wait \ufffd as sleeper agents \ufffd for instructions. He said he had no doubt his fellow students would obey any instructions that came from bin Laden. \"If bin Laden asked [you] to put a bomb on your body and explode it, they won't say no. They will do that,\" he said. After two years in bin Laden's organization, the defector said he became disillusioned with so many plots that targeted innocent civilians. He has defected from al Qaeda and is now cooperating with the U.S. government. He doubted that the U.S. military, or even special forces, would be able to capture bin Laden in Afghanistan. \"It is impossible to find bin Laden. Bin Laden has many, many places in Afghanistan. You cannot find him,\" he said, adding that bin Laden is still guarded by a cadre of heavily armed bodyguards, including three of his sons."}, {"response": 574, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Sep 28, 2001 (09:10)", "body": "Thanks for all the background, Suzee. Actually, the part that I found hard to believe was the loss of property. Internment I could see how they would achieve. In the US, there are probably greater safeguards on property than human life from a legal standpoint. :-("}, {"response": 575, "author": "fitzwd", "date": "Fri, Sep 28, 2001 (10:37)", "body": "loss of property The internees were sometimes given as few as 2 days to handle their affairs before they were shipped off to the camps. They had to leave everything behind. Those that sold, received not pennies on the dollar, but fractions of pennies on the dollar, as vultures were standing in line ready to take advantage of the situation. While interned, no income was generated, so if people held onto their property, they ultimately could not make mortgage payments or pay property taxes. There were no grace periods, only quick foreclosures. The economic loss was estimated in the hundreds of millions of dollars. All of this was documented in a recent government publication. Some of the literature that has been written about this episode preface the actual internment with a history and description of the location of the real estate occupied. A few expressions come to mind, like follow the money, do the math, or as John McCain recently said about the war we've just entered, \"get a map.\" Most people don't realize the art that automakers had in the demise of the US railway system. Likewise, most people don't understand the machinations that went on behind the scene during the internment process. And I believe reparations were only $20,000, not $25,000 as earlier reported."}, {"response": 576, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Fri, Sep 28, 2001 (21:58)", "body": "...(Donna) And I believe reparations were only $20,000, not $25,000 as earlier reported...... I think it *was* $20,000 -- $20,000 and an apology! There were some reparations paid in about 1948 \ufffd a pittance that amounted to about 5 cents on the dollar. And non-Japanese real estate speculators did grow rich on land bought from Japanese-Americans for next to nothing and sold later at sky-high prices. Japanese-Americans lost property in many ways. Besides having it confiscated and losing equity (hard to make payments from \ufffdcamp\ufffd), homes and businesses were vandalized and destroyed and also condemned whether they deserved it or not. What is that quotation about evil prevailing when good men do nothing? ...(karen) In the US, there are probably greater safeguards on property than human life from a legal standpoint. :-( The truth is that it could happen again right now. The Federal government has enormous power, and the President can do almost anything with the Executive Order(new or existing). The process totally by-passes Congress. He/she can declare martial law, take property, take over power companies, education facilities, airports, manpower, supplies and services as \"needed.\" It can be used for good or bad. Andrew Jackson used it to remove Cherokee Indians from their land; Lincoln suspended certain legal rights, closed newspapers opposed to his policies; Roosevelt issued the previously mentioned 9066; FEMA was created by E.O.; Truman integrated the US armed forces; Eisenhower sent troops to aid integration in Little Rock. In the 1930's an E.O. required all gold to be turned in to the Federal treasury. I'm losing count of the wars we've fought without war being declared. Bush used an E.O. this week to freeze terrorists' assets. He signed one in June covering the Balkans, prohibiting US companies from doing business with certain individuals and \"blocking the property and interest in property\" of persons threatening stabilization efforts there. In the right atmosphere of fear and panic, etc., all these things can combine to allow rotten things to happen. Throw in a \"real\", declared war and the sky's the limit. It's sure a heck of an argument for paying *very* close attention to what your government is doing -- not to mention what we ourselves are doing as citizens. National Archives and Records Administration Federal Register - Executive Orders http://www.nara.gov/fedreg/eo.html"}, {"response": 577, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Sep 29, 2001 (09:46)", "body": "In the right atmosphere of fear and panic, etc., all these things can combine to allow rotten things to happen Well Suzee,that's why I'm glad that I live in a democracy with elections. We can always throw the bums out and the next guy can rescind those EO orders if the public deems it so. Sadly, minority groups seldom have that leaverage (Japanese). Hopefully, we're wiser now . I was happy to see that our representatives are respecting the law-abiding Muslim citizens in our country by going to mosques, including Muslim reps at services.Now it has to filter down to Joe Sixpack. But it is inconceivable that any president would repeat the error of the Japanese internments."}, {"response": 578, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (09:21)", "body": "A poll released Friday by Ekos Research Associates for the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. and two newspapers found 63 percent of the 1,228 respondents said they felt ``a closer sense of shared values and interests with the Americans'' since the attacks. Fifty-nine percent supported giving up some ``national sovereignty'' to increase North America's security. In sharing the world's longest undefended border and world's largest trade partnership with the United States, Canadians realize the relationship that has bolstered their economy and guaranteed military defense now carries new demands and responsibilities. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011001/ts/attacks_follow_the_leader_1.html"}, {"response": 579, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (09:31)", "body": "David Kline's comments posted in news 54: People have been saying here that the Taliban brought peace out of chaos in Afghanistan and how do we know that the Northern Alliance or anyone else would be better? For the answers, see the rest in the news conference topic 54."}, {"response": 580, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (10:29)", "body": "Militants storm J&K Assembly, 25 killed SRINAGAR: In a daring suicide attack, an explosive-laden car was blown up by militants on Monday near the entrance of the Jammu and Kashmir state legislature. At least 26 people were feared killed and 50 injured in the attack. Pakistan-based militant group, Jaish-e-Mohammed claimed responsibility for the attack. http://www.timesofindia.com/"}, {"response": 581, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (14:05)", "body": "ABC News reports. Taliban Taunt Says U.S. Doesn't Have Courage for Afghan War Oct. 1 \ufffd Afghanistan's ruling Taliban militia said Osama bin Laden is under their control \ufffd but the United States \"doesn't have the courage\" to come get him \ufffd Taliban Says U.S. Doesn't Have Courage for Afghan War \ufffd FBI Foils Possible Sears Tower Attack \ufffd Will Sept. 11 Change our Apolitical Youth? \"Americans don't have the courage to come here,\" Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar said in an interview with Taliban-run Kabul radio. He recalled the failures of Soviet and British forces to subdue Afghans, and repeatedly warned the United States to \"think and think again before attacking Afghanistan.\" The fiery words came a day after a Taliban official, Abdul Salam Zaeef, said the regime was willing to negotiate over bin Laden's surrender, if U.S. officials present evidence of his involvement in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon."}, {"response": 582, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (20:42)", "body": "I spoke with a Canadian man today about their media. He was not surprised at their comments. Apparently their press is even more \"liberal\" than ours was before this ghastly event unfolded."}, {"response": 583, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (08:46)", "body": "Cruising in to Austin this morning I tuned in to NPR and heard that NATO just passed a resolution that put's us all in this together and another one time great Afghan fighter has joined our side. Haven't had a chance to check in on http://www.google.com/news yet and look around on CNN, Fox, NYTimes, ABC, etc. but I'll do that later. Sounds like airports are starting to get beefed up security, National Guard, etc. Canada needs to round up the terrorists lurking in the shadows up there, I hope they're mobilizing for this."}, {"response": 584, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (09:05)", "body": "Blair: Attack Coming British Prime Minister Warns Taliban; Bush Looks At Economy, Security Issues Oct. 2 \ufffd As the U.S. military dispatched another aircraft carrier in the war against terrorism, British Prime Minister Tony Blair is reportedly set to announce that a military attack on Afghanistan's Taliban regime is \"now imminent and will be devastating.\" Blair will say he has seen strong evidence linking terrorist Osama bin Laden to the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States, and will tell a Labor Party conference in Brighton, England today that the Taliban, which has been harboring bin Laden, will be made to pay for its actions, according to the British Broadcasting Corporation. The leaders of NATO have also been convinced, after a meeting with U.S. Ambassador-at-Large Francis X. Taylor. \"The facts are clear and compelling. The information presented points conclusively to an al Qaeda role in the 11th of September attacks,\" NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson said today. \"We know that the individuals who carried out those attacks were part of the worldwide terrorist network al Qaeda headed by Osama bin Laden and his key lieutenant and protected by the Taliban.\" He said that the information Taylor presented to NATO proved that the attack was directed from abroad, meaning it is covered by NATO's Article 5, which states that an armed attack on one or more NATO nation is to be considered an attack against all of them. \"I want to reiterate yet again today that the United States of America can rely on the full support of its 18 NATO allies in the campaign against international terrorism,\" he said. source ABCnews.com"}, {"response": 585, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (17:54)", "body": "You and me too, Terry in regards to getting Canada up to speed on this. The only positive note from e politician north of the border that I have heard was from a former Prime Minister. Heaven help us! --------------- A positive Look at 9-11-01... By now everyone has been hearing the death toll rise and reports of the destruction from the terrorist attacks on the US. These were deplorable acts that we will never forget. But now is a time to look at the other side of the numbers coming out of New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. The sad but somewhat uplifting side that the mainstream media has not reported yet -- the SURVIVAL RATES and some positive news about the attacks. The Buildings The World Trade Center The twin towers of the World Trade Center were places of employment for some 50,000 people. With the missing list of just over 5,000 people, that means 90% of the people targeted survived the attack. A 90% on a test is an 'A.' The Pentagon Some 23,000 people were the target of a third plane aimed at the Pentagon. The latest count shows that 123 lost their lives. That is an amazing 99.5% survival rate. In addition, the plane seems to have come in too low, too early to affect a large portion of the building. On top of that, the section that was hit was the first of five sections to undergo renovations that would help protect the Pentagon from terrorist attacks. It had recently completed straightening and blastproofing, saving untold lives. This attack was sad, but a statistical failure. The Planes American Airlines Flight 77 The Boeing 757 that was flown into the outside of the Pentagon could have carried up to 289 people, yet only 64 were aboard. Luckily 78% of the seats were empty. American Airlines Flight 11 The Boeing 767 could have had up to 351 people aboard, but only carried 92. Thankfully 74 % of the seats were unfilled. United Airlines Flight 175 Another Boeing 767 that could have sat 351 people only had 65 people on board. Fortunately it was 81% empty. United Airlines Flight 93 The Boeing 757 was one of the most uplifting stories yet. The smallest flight to be hijacked with only 45 people aboard out of a possible 289 had 84% of its capacity unused. Yet these people stood up to the attackers and thwarted a fourth attempted destruction of a national landmark, saving untold numbers of lives in the process. In Summary Out of potentially 74,280 Americans directly targeted by these inept cowards, 93% survived or avoided the attacks. That's a higher survival rate than heart attacks, breast cancer, kidney transplants and liver transplants--all common, survivable illnesses. The Hijacked planes were mostly empty, the Pentagon was hit at it's strongest point, the overwhelming majority of people in the World Trade Center buildings escaped, and a handful of passengers gave the ultimate sacrifice to save even more lives."}, {"response": 586, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (18:02)", "body": "Subject: \"Monday Vs Tuesday\" On Monday there were people fighting against praying in schools On Tuesday you would have been hard pressed to find a school where someone was not praying On Monday there were people who were trying to separate each other by race, sex, color and creed On Tuesday they were all holding hands On Monday we thought that we were secure On Tuesday we learned better On Monday we were talking about heroes as being athletes On Tuesday we relearned what hero meant On Monday people went to work at the world trade centers as usual On Tuesday they died On Monday people were fighting the 10 commandments on government property On Tuesday the same people all said 'God help us all' while thinking 'Thou shall not kill' On Monday people argued with their kids about picking up their room On Tuesday the same people could not get home fast enough to hug their kids. On Monday people picked up McDonalds for dinner On Tuesday they stayed home On Monday people were upset that their dry cleaning was not ready on time On Tuesday they were lining up to give blood for the dying On Monday politicians argued about budget surpluses On Tuesday grief stricken they sang 'God Bless America' On Monday we worried about the traffic and getting to work late On Tuesday we worried about a plane crashing into your house or place of business On Monday we were irritated that our rebate checks had not arrived On Tuesday we wanted to give it all back. On Monday some children had solid families On Tuesday they were orphans On Monday the president was going to Florida to read to children On Tuesday he returned to Washington to protect our children On Monday we emailed jokes On Tuesday we did not It is sadly ironic how it takes horrific events to place things into perspective, but it has. May God help us with the lessons learned this week, the things we have taken for granted, the things that have been forgotten or overlooked, the ruts that we have allowed ourselves to follow. It may well be better for us not to get back to normal. On Monday - pray and be thankful! On Tuesday - pray and be thankful! On Wednesday - pray and be thankful! On Thursday - pray and be thankful! On Friday - pray and be thankful! On Saturday - pray and be thankful! On Sunday - pray and be thankful!"}, {"response": 587, "author": "SBRobinson", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (18:08)", "body": "Marcia, thanks for posting that 'positive view' of Sept 11 - gave me chills to read those numbers. *big hug* btw- *grin*"}, {"response": 588, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (18:19)", "body": "*Big Hugs!!! EsBee, I have missed you! I'll be in your area at the end of this month! My son is finally gonna tie the old proverial knot. Imagine riding a 100+ story building as it collapsed and emerging alive? Or worse still, going down all those stairs fro 2 1/2 hous to reach ground level just as the rest of the building collapses and you have just made it out! Talk about There, but for the Grace of God, go I..."}, {"response": 589, "author": "SBRobinson", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (18:34)", "body": "Your going to be in Cal???? will email you - we HAVE to get together this time!!! Congrats to David btw!!"}, {"response": 590, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (20:36)", "body": "Thanks for the congrats. Your two emails are already on their way!"}, {"response": 591, "author": "Anek", "date": "Wed, Oct 3, 2001 (06:36)", "body": "I'm not sure if it was published here. Even more doubts if I shoul put the below message here. Film about Osama bin Laden in production Guardian Unlimited Monday October 1, 2001 It was only a matter of time before it happened, but many will be surprised to hear that a fictional film about Osama bin Laden is already in production. The film rights to British writer and former SAS officer Andy McNab's book Crisis Four have been bought by Miramax and according to the books publishers Corgi, \"The process is already several stages down the line.\" The book tells the story of a \"steel-willed\" British woman who is recruited by bin Laden to work her way into American security, blow up the White House and kill the president. The book's hero Nick Stone, a former SAS man who McNab says is \"partly autobiographical\" has the task of hunting down the woman. McNab is aware that the film will attract criticism when so many studios are avoiding any mention of terrorism or the World Trade Centre but insists he is not jumping on the bandwagon as the book was first published in 1999. \"Many people have bought the book since September 11 because of the coincidences,\" he told the Daily Telegraph. \"It shows that you don't have to have a beard and a turban to be working for bin Laden.\" Mystery surrounds the identity of the real Andy McNab as he writes under a pseudonym and there are no photographs of him although his books which lift the lid on the secret world of the SAS have been hugely successful worldwide. His 1994 novel Bravo Two Zero about his unit's experiences in Iraq during the Gulf war sold over a million copies in the UK alone I was afraid that someday there will be somebody who will try to produce a film about bin Laden to make money out of the tragedy. But I didn't imagine that it's already happening."}, {"response": 592, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 3, 2001 (09:29)", "body": "*More Short Skirts and Dancing, Advises Prominent Fatwa Victim *8-/ Fighting the Forces of Invisibility By Salman Rushdie Tuesday, October 2, 2001; Page A25 NEW YORK -- In January 2000 I wrote in a newspaper column that \"the defining struggle of the new age would be between Terrorism and Security,\" and fretted that to live by the security experts' worst-case scenarios might be to surrender too many of our liberties to the invisible shadow-warriors of the secret world. Democracy requires visibility, I argued, and in the struggle between security and freedom we must always err on the side of freedom. On Tuesday, Sept. 11, however, the worst-case scenario came true. They broke our city. I'm among the newest of New Yorkers, but even people who have never set foot in Manhattan have felt its wounds deeply, because New York is the beating heart of the visible world, tough-talking, spirit- dazzling, Walt Whitman's \"city of orgies, walks and joys,\" his \"proud and passionate city -- mettlesome, mad, extravagant city!\" To this bright capital of the visible, the forces of invisibility have dealt a dreadful blow. No need to say how dreadful; we all saw it, are all changed by it. Now we must ensure that the wound is not mortal, that the world of what is seen triumphs over what is cloaked, what is perceptible only through the effects of its awful deeds. In making free societies safe -- safer -- from terrorism, our civil liberties will inevitably be compromised. But in return for freedom's partial erosion, we have a right to expect that our cities, water, planes and children really will be better protected than they have been. The West's response to the Sept. 11 attacks will be judged in large measure by whether people begin to feel safe once again in their homes, their workplaces, their daily lives. This is the confidence we have lost, and must regain. Next: the question of the counterattack. Yes, we must send our shadow- warriors against theirs, and hope that ours prevail. But this secret war alone cannot bring victory. We will also need a public, political and diplomatic offensive whose aim must be the early resolution of some of the world's thorniest problems: above all the battle between Israel and the Palestinian people for space, dignity, recognition and survival. Better judgment will be required on all sides in future. No more Sudanese aspirin factories to be bombed, please. And now that wise American heads appear to have understood that it would be wrong to bomb the impoverished, oppressed Afghan people in retaliation for their tyrannous masters' misdeeds, they might apply that wisdom, retrospectively, to what was done to the impoverished, oppressed people of Iraq. It's time to stop making enemies and start making friends. To say this is in no way to join in the savaging of America by sections of the left that has been among the most unpleasant consequences of the terrorists' attacks on the United States. \"The problem with Americans is . . . \" -- \"What America needs to understand . . . \" There has been a lot of sanctimonious moral relativism around lately, usually prefaced by such phrases as these. A country which has just suffered the most devastating terrorist attack in history, a country in a state of deep mourning and horrible grief, is being told, heartlessly, that it is to blame for its own citizens' deaths. (\"Did we deserve this, sir?\" a bewildered worker at \"ground zero\" asked a visiting British journalist recently. I find the grave courtesy of that \"sir\" quite astonishing.) Let's be clear about why this bien-pensant anti-American onslaught is such appalling rubbish. Terrorism is the murder of the innocent; this time, it was mass murder. To excuse such an atrocity by blaming U.S. government policies is to deny the basic idea of all morality: that individuals are responsible for their actions. Furthermore, terrorism is not the pursuit of legitimate complaints by illegitimate means. The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives. Whatever the killers were trying to achieve, it seems improbable that building a better world was part of it. The fundamentalist seeks to bring down a great deal more than buildings. Such people are against, to offer just a brief list, freedom of speech, a multi-party political system, universal adult suffrage, accountable government, Jews, homosexuals, women's rights, pluralism, secularism, short skirts, dancing, beardlessness, evolution theory, sex. These are tyrants, not Muslims. (Islam is tough on suicides, who are doomed to repeat their deaths through all eternity. However, there needs to be a thorough examination, by Muslims everywhere, of why it is that the faith they love breeds so many violent mutant strains. If the West needs to understand its Unabombers and McVeighs, Islam needs to face up to its bin Ladens.) United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan has said that we should now define ourselves not only by what we are for but by what we "}, {"response": 593, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 3, 2001 (09:33)", "body": "I heard an account on the radio this morning about a Greyhound Bus terrorist action where the bus driver got his throat slit. CNN reporting at least ten people dead. Minimal info on the nutcase from one of the passengers: ----- Carly Rinearson, a passenger on the bus, said in a phone call to CNN affiliate WTVF that a man kept asking if he could have her seat near the front of the bus. She said he appeared agitated and kept asking what time it was. Rinearson said when she refused to give up her seat, \"He just went up to the bus driver and like slit his throat. And the bus driver turned the wheel and the bus tipped over.\" She did not describe the man further or say what kind of weapon he had."}, {"response": 594, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 3, 2001 (15:20)", "body": "Another hijacking. MUMBAI TO DELHI PLANE HIJACKED EW DELHI: A Boeing 737 belonging to India's state-run Alliance Air, with 52 people on board, was hijacked just after take off from Mumbai early Thursday, Union Minister of State for Civil Aviation Shahnawaz Hussain said. The Minister said a hijack distress call had been received by the Air Traffic Control (ATC) in New Delhi where the plane had landed at around 1 a.m. The aircraft, on its way to Delhi, was hijacked after passing Ahmedabad, initial reports said. The plane, with 46 passengers and 6 crew on board, departed from Mumbai at 11:15 pm. The Alliance Air is a subsidiary of the Indian Airlines. The plane is now parked at an isolated bay runway 27 of the airport. Police and fire vehicles have rushed towards the site. (AFP/PTI) Times of India is the source."}, {"response": 595, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 3, 2001 (20:16)", "body": "from Times of India: NEW DELHI: After more than four hours of anxious moments, Union Civil Aviation Minister Shahnawaz Hussain said the supposed hijacking of the Alliance Air was a creation of confusion caused by false alarm received at the ATC Ahmedabad. http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1331366505 The bus throat slitter was probably a lone nut copycat."}, {"response": 596, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 4, 2001 (17:08)", "body": "More weird people will think of copy cat crimes against humanity. It always seem so to be this way, unhappily. I understand an Arnold Swartzeneger movie was pulled before premier because of similarity to real events. I hope we are all spared such movies!"}, {"response": 597, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 4, 2001 (17:33)", "body": "From a greatly-esteemed gentleman of my acquaintance: Re Bin Lauden: Give him a sex change operation and send her back to Afghanistan"}, {"response": 598, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 4, 2001 (21:59)", "body": "A popular thing amongst fire departments to collect money was to have \u201cFill the Boot\u201d campaigns. Firemen in uniform and wearing their helmuts, with the engine nearby would stand at busy interesections. They would hold one of their large turnout boots to collect donations. It caught on with contagious enthusiasm around here. Our 7 station dept designated one day to do this. Our crew felt a little on the awkward side to solicit money from the public. It wasn\u2019t a natural thing for us to do. There were three of us. I made three signs from a cardboard box that I cut up. Before sunup, we got to a busy intersection at Fuerte and Avocado in El Cajon/ La Mesa, Calif. I took the center island for the turn lane. I wasn\u2019t there for 30 seconds before I got my first dollar bill donation. From then on we got busier and busier as the rush hour approached it\u2019s peak. To beat the stop lights, I literally had to run almost constantly. People had their arms outstretched waiting for me. The only way I can reach them wa to be on a constant juking and jiving trot, as I dodged thru the lanes of cars. Eventually the cars between each light stacked up to about 30 car lengths. I was getting very tired, but I couldn\u2019t stop. People were eager to give their donations. It got so hectic that people were wadding up paper money and throwing it in our direction as they drove by. I was literally dodging traffic. There\u2019s a popular video game called \u201cFrogger\u201d. The object is to get a frog across a multi-lane road to the other side without getting ran over. The frog moved back and forth to avoid the cars. This was exactly what I was doing. There were several moments when I couldn\u2019t help relating myself to that frog. A smile would come to my face when I did. Some folks who weren\u2019t able to give money at the stop light, would pull over and get out of their cars and meet us along the side of the road. Some people who stopped and couldn\u2019t get our attention, simply left money on the seats of the engine. That morning we found over 50 on the seats. A lot of people wanted to thank me and give condolences for the NY fire fighters. Some folks had tears. They were so sympathetic for the NY fire fighters, that it was obvious that they wanted to express this somehow. Being firefighters ourselves, in their hearts we were the conduit to express this emotion to them. It was genuinely heart rendering. We have a large arab community within our district, and it was soothing to see these people making sincere donations along with the rest of the community. After that one day, our dept collected over $65,000 and the tally is still being counted. It will all go to the families of the fallen NY firefighers. For us who dodged the traffic to collect money for them, it was a very satisfying and emotional experience to go thru. I am greatful to have not retired before I could experience such an event. I only regret the loss that made it possible. George Zay La Mesa, Calif. San Miguel Fire Dept."}, {"response": 599, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (09:34)", "body": "http://abcnews.com Oct. 5 \ufffd At least 1,000 U.S. Army soldiers are headed to the former Soviet republic of Uzbekistan today, as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld visited leaders there to shore up support for an attack on neighboring Afghanistan. Troops from the U.S. 10th Mountain Division are expected to arrive today in Uzbekistan, where American military officials would like to stage personnel, bombers and jets for any attack on suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and Afghanistan's ruling Taliban militia. Uzbek President Islam Karimov this morning gave permission for U.S. troops to use one airbase for search-and-rescue and humanitarian aid missions. He said he was not ready at this time to let offensive troops use the facility, however. there's more at http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_MAIN.html"}, {"response": 600, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (09:35)", "body": "http://cnn.com Allies press for support British Prime Minister Tony Blair and U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld are meeting with leaders overseas today, working to shore up support for the campaign against terrorism. Meanwhile, Pentagon officials tell CNN about 1,000 troops from the 10th Mountain Division are headed to Uzbekistan to provide security at an airfield, which will be used for humanitarian purposes. more at http://www.cnn.com/"}, {"response": 601, "author": "SBRobinson", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (13:44)", "body": "(Marcia)From a greatly-esteemed gentleman of my acquaintance: Re Bin Lauden: Give him a sex change operation and send her back to Afghanistan ROTFLOL - that made me laugh so hard co-workers came around to see what was so funny. :-) All agree is an excellent idea!"}, {"response": 602, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (15:21)", "body": "(I liked it, too! Payback is a B**** and then you die!) Terry, I'd be much happier and feel a whole lot more secure if our media kept their noses out of the military maneuvers and let it remain as secret as possible..... or did you wish to inform out enemies of where we are at all times so more atrocities could be committed on our best and brightest? I also wish they would stop telling us how to commit bio-medical and chemical mayhem. I KNOW the evil people can find out for themselves or invent new ways to kill us. It is the giving the ideas to the lone and warped like the one who slit throats on the Greyhound bus that bothers me. I refuse to participate in this dissemination of comfort and information to those who would do us harm. *end of rant*"}, {"response": 603, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (18:22)", "body": "I completely agree, Marcia! Whenever it was that they were in Boston about to try to get some suspects, the media caught on, and practically gave them a head start to get out of there before the FBI could get to them... We don't need to know everything!!! Tell us when it is over!"}, {"response": 604, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (20:43)", "body": "I read \"The first casualty of war is truth, somebody said, and we know that disinformation is a key part of this stragedy. Therefore the quest for reliable info is extra-essential . . . \""}, {"response": 605, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (21:22)", "body": "Judiciously, Dear Terry. Moderation and wisdom, not tell-all and know-all. Sometimes it is best to know after it is all over! The following was sent to me from a really surprising source. I like it! Subject: LETTER FROM GOD From: GOD To: My Children on Earth RE: Idiotic Religious Rivalries My Dear Children (and believe me, that's all of you), I consider myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution? Boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place, cell by cell, and gene by gene. I've been patient through your fashions, civilizations, wars and schemes, and the countless ways you take Me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again. I want to let you know about some of the things that are starting to tick me off. First of all, your religious rivalries are driving Me up a wall. Enough already! Let's get one thing straight. These are YOUR religions, not Mine. I'm the whole enchilada; I'm beyond them all. Every one of your religions claims there is only one of Me (which by the way, is absolutely true). But in the very next breath, each religion claims it's My favorite one. And each claims its bible was written personally by Me, and that all the other bible's are man-made. Oh, Me. How do I even begin to put a stop to such complicated nonsense? Okay, listen up now. I'm your Father AND Mother, and I don't play favorites among My children. Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a \"doer\" anyway. So ALL of your books, including those bible's, were written by men and women. They were inspired, remarkable people, but they also made mistakes here and there. I made sure of that, so that you would never trust a written word more than your own living heart. You see, one human being to me, even a bum on the street, is worth more than all the Holy Books in the world. That's just the kind of guy I am. My Spirit is not a historical thing, it's alive right here, right now, as fresh as your next breath. Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful, but not more so than the least of you. They were only meant to steer you in the right direction, not to keep you arguing with each other, and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with Me. Which brings Me to My next point about your nonsense. You act like I need you and your religions to stick up for Me or \"win souls\" for My sake. Please, don't do Me any favors. I can stand quite well on my own, thank you. I don't need you to defend Me, and I don't need constant credit. I just want you to be good to each other. And another thing: I don't get all worked up over money or politics, so stop dragging My name into your dramas. For example, I swear to Me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh's Rolls Royces. I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I've never EVER had a conversation with Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, or Jimmy Swaggart! Of course, come Judgment Day, I certainly intend to... The thing is, I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of loyalty pledge to Me. The true purpose of your religions is so that YOU can become more aware of ME, not the other way around. Believe Me, I know you already. I know what's in each of your hearts, and I love you with no strings attached. Lighten up and enjoy Me. That's what religion is best for. What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am. You look at the petty differences in your Scriptures and say, \"Well, if THIS is the truth, then THAT can't be!\" But instead of trying to figure out My Paradoxes and Unfathomable Nature, which by the way, you NEVER will, why not open your hearts to the simple common threads in all religions. You know what I'm talking about: Love and respect everyone. Be kind, even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer, for I am always with you. Learn how to be quiet, so you can hear My still, small voice (I don't like to shout). Leave the world a better place by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are My Own Child. Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die surely will, and the parts that can't, won't. So don't worry, be happy (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin, but who do you think gave it to him in the first place?) Simple stuff. Why do you keep making it so complicated? It's like you're always looking for an excuse to be upset. And I'm very tired of being your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call me Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Wakantonka, Brahma, Father, Mother or even the Void of Nirvana? Do you think I care which of My special children you feel closest to - Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed or any of the others? You can call Me and My Special Ones any name you choose, if only you would go about My business of loving one another as I love you. How c"}, {"response": 606, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (21:27)", "body": "I thought we paid our politicians to do a good job for us. Truth is not sacrificed - safety of the polulace is. We have a good governmental system. Mob rule nearly destroyed France. I don't need to know where the mountain troops are in Usbekistan! I trust our elected officials. Heaven help them if they do not live up to our newly-rigorous demands!"}, {"response": 607, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Fri, Oct 5, 2001 (22:58)", "body": "They say now that there is a 100% chance that they will strike again but can't say where."}, {"response": 608, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (00:23)", "body": "Indeed, they successfully revel in our tragedy. We are all \"infidels\" in their cultish belief structure, which is so against true Islam. They are not sane people. They kill for their rewards. I wonder how long before they kill off all of their devotees. Not soon enough, I fear. Be safe, Lucie! ...and everyone!"}, {"response": 609, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (11:35)", "body": "The first death of Anthrax in Forida is now believe to have been intentional. :-("}, {"response": 610, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (17:20)", "body": "Saturday October 6 4:41 PM ET Anthrax Case Puzzles Investigators By AMANDA RIDDLE, Associated Press Writer LANTANA, Fla. (AP) - Relatives of a Florida man who contracted a fatal case of anthrax are being given antibiotics as a precaution and his co-workers have been tested and cleared, health authorities said Saturday. The search to find out how 63-year-old Bob Stevens contracated the rare and extremely lethal inhaled form of the disease expanded one day after his death. More than 50 health and law enforcement officials have fanned out across Palm Beach County to track his movements over the past two months and look for other possible cases. Officials are also going over medical records in four North Carolina counties that he might have visited recently. ``We have a long chronology of common activities we need to pursue,'' Florida epidemiologist Dr. Steven Wiersma said. ``We don't have any really hot leads at this time.'' Investigators are awaiting test results from soil and other specimens. The results could take days. No other cases of anthrax have been reported in the area. Wiersma said several of Stevens' co-workers at the supermarket tabloid The Sun have been tested, but results were negative. Antibiotics are being given to close family members. Officials have said there is no evidence that Stevens was the victim of terrorism. Wiersma said tests of Stevens' blood helped confirm that belief because the anthrax in the sample responded to penicillin. Anthrax developed by some countries as a biological weapon could be resistant to the antibiotic, he said. More... http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011006/us/anthrax_case_27.html Moon, do you have a source for your scary news? I'd love to get a few sources!"}, {"response": 611, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (17:21)", "body": "This man also visited North Carolina where he might have contracted it. Many leads to follow before the media needs to fighten us any more than we are already!"}, {"response": 612, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (17:51)", "body": "From The Miami Herald Florida man dies from anthrax Search is on for source and other possible cases BY LARRY LEBOWITZ, LISA ARTHUR AND WILLIAM YARDLEY A Palm Beach County man died Friday from inhaled anthrax, but health officials continued to assure an anxious state that he was stricken with an isolated case of the deadly disease -- increasingly feared as a bioterrorism weapon -- though how he contracted it remains a mystery. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors want direction in preventing infection So far, the search in S. Florida for other anthrax cases is negative Terrorism alert led to diagnosis of rare, fatal disease Previous coverage Friends, relatives wonder how S. Florida man contracted anthrax What is anthrax? Anthrax Q&A Graphic: Unseen perils -- Chemical and biological weapons Is nation prepared? Is U.S. prepared to battle germ weapons? Experts fear U.S. plan against bioterrorism is inadequate Chemical, biological war front particularly difficult to defend Florida response State scrambles to respond to possible biowarfare attack Hijacker looked into crop-duster in Florida Gas masks fly off store shelves Water systems well prepared for disasters, managers say More coverage Latest developments regarding terrorist attacks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- South Florida man diagnosed with anthrax -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ``I don't want to give anyone the slightest inkling that we know what caused this,'' said Steven Wiersma, the state's chief epidemiologist. ``We're looking at any possible physical way this could have happened.'' A day after Robert Stevens' condition became public, doctors in South Florida and at several hospitals across the country received orders or decided on their own to reexamine certain cases, this time looking for traces of inhalational anthrax, a strain of the disease that is nearly always fatal. The last case of inhaled anthrax reported in the United States was in 1976. Even as health officials urged calm in Florida, they aggressively pursued doctors' reports of possible new cases -- including a 75-year-old Miami-Dade resident -- all of which had proved false on Friday, said Wiersma. ``Three cases have gotten our attention and we feel very comfortable that they are not anthrax. . . . We had several leads that were highly suspicious that we've ruled out,'' he said, adding that ``each passing hour that we don't turn up a new case . . . is very good news.'' Wiersma said an alliance of investigators from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the FBI, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the state Health Department and the Palm Beach County Health Department had ``cast a very wide net.'' By lunchtime Friday, investigators were inspecting Stevens' Lantana home behind crime-scene tape. In the back of the investigators' Ford Explorer: plastic coolers filled with supplies, boxes of latex gloves and a small manual, Emergency Response to Terrorism Job Aid. The six investigators working at the Stevens house were one of three teams officials said had been deployed to investigate the case. One team planned to trace Stevens' travels, habits and lifestyle over the last 60 days -- considered the maximum incubation time for anthrax. The other investigative teams began poring through South Florida hospital records and medical examiner records across the state, looking for suspicious symptoms or unexplained deaths since the terrorist attacks Sept. 11. Several of the suspected terrorists trained as pilots in South Florida and lived within 10 miles of the Stevens home. Officials acknowledged Friday they were in uncharted territory, responding to the anthrax case with unprecedented investigative scope as concern over bioterrorism has surged following the attacks. BAFFLING CASE Palm Beach County Health Department spokesman Tim O'Connor, stationed for most of the day at the county's emergency operations center, said even experienced investigators are feeling challenged by the Stevens case. ``They've never had one like this,'' he said. Inhalational anthrax in people -- caused by breathing anthrax spores in the air -- is extremely rare nationwide. Only 18 inhalational cases were documented in the United States in the 20th Century. A less serious form of anthrax, caused by skin contact with anthrax spores and usually resulting in skin lesions that can be treated with penicillin, was last reported in the state in 1974. The same form was reported in Texas earlier this year. The skin disease is usually contracted by people who work with infected farm animals. Anthrax has not appeared in Florida livestock for half a century. In addition to state and local investigators, the CDC has dispatched 12 staffers to work on the investigation in Florida. BIOHAZARD BAGS After 2 1/2 hours at the Stevens house, investigators hauled away seve"}, {"response": 613, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (20:22)", "body": "(Marcia) Letter from God: \"I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a 'doer' anyway...\" I never doubted it for a minute! LOL \"I swear to Me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh's Rolls Royces. I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I've never EVER had a conversation with Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, or Jimmy Swaggart!\" I would love to send this to Falwell and the others. Thanks for this Marcia!"}, {"response": 614, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (21:03)", "body": "Thanks Moon for the article. I could not find one and your is great. Suzee, I loved that Letter from God. I can think of a lot of people who need to read it! Happy news for me since I use this airport in about 2 weeks to attend my son's wedding: Honolulu Airport is one of the best-protected airports in the country during this time of heightened national security, said the airport's federal security manager. Allen Agor, who reports to the Federal Aviation Administration's assistant administrator for security, said new high-tech explosive detection machines, six canine detection teams, increased security measures and a \"battalion strength\" of military, federal, state and civilian law enforcement officers provide a highly visible armed deterrent to criminal acts against civilian aviation. \"It's safer to fly now,\" Agor told legislators reviewing Hawaii's terrorism readiness yesterday. \"(Security) is a notch above what it was on Sept. 11.\" Agor added that plans for federal control of security at state airports will likely take place in the next six months. State and federal officials say Hawaii continues to prepare for possible acts of terrorism, although it can never know what, if anything, may be a target. Edward Correa Jr., adjutant general of the state Department of Defense, said assessment teams reviewed critical state and county buildings yesterday, as well as other infrastructure, to see how they could be protected. Key to all this readiness, Correa said, has been the close communication and coordination developed among all agencies over the past 18 months. Along with state airports, security at Hawaii's waterways has improved, state harbors manager Barry Kim said. Honolulu Harbor has been closed to recreational vessels while the Coast Guard patrols waters near the airport reef runway. Also closed is the Aloha Tower observation deck. And all state harbors have been closed indefinitely to pole fishing, Kim said. State Public Safety Director Ted Sakai said he is reassessing manpower needs at the state courts, prisons, state buildings including the state Capitol, and state airports. The department's budgets are being reviewed with an emphasis on health, safety and security. http://starbulletin.com/2001/10/06/news/"}, {"response": 615, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 6, 2001 (22:03)", "body": "Lucie sent this and I consider it important enough for all to read! Even if I may have posted this before, read it again. I need to do so! A message from the pilot! Worth reading if you are going to be flying anytime soon. The following is from a letter by a professional friend and her return flight to D.C. this week. \"I just wanted to drop you all a note and let you know that I arrived safe and sound into Dulles Airport tonight [9/15] at about 6:00. It was an interesting flight. The airport in Denver was almost spooky, it was so empty and quiet. No one was in line for the security check point when I got there so that went fairly quickly, just x-ray of my bags and then a chemical test to be sure nothing explosive was on them. Then I waited 2 1/2 hours to board the plane. What happened after we boarded was interesting and thought I would share it with you. The pilot/captain came on the loudspeaker after the doors were closed. His speech went like this: \"First I want to thank you for being brave enough to fly today. The doors are now closed and we have no help from the outside for any problems that might occur inside this plane. As you could tell when you checked in, the government has made some changes to increase security in the airports. \"They have not, however, made any rules about what happens after those doors close. Until they do that, we have made our own rules and I want to share them with you. Once those doors close, we only have each other. \"The security has taken care of a threat like guns with all of the increased scanning, etc. Then we have the supposed bomb. If you have a bomb, there is no need to tell me about it, or anyone else on this plane; you are already in control. So, for this flight, there are no bombs that exist on this plane. \"Now, the threats that are left are things like plastics, wood, knives, and other weapons that can be made or things like that which can be used as weapons. \"Here is our plan and our rules. If someone or several people stand up and say they are hijacking this plane, I want you all to stand up together. Then take whatever you have available to you and throw it at them. Throw it at their faces and heads so they will have to raise their hands to protect themselves. \"The very best protection you have against knives are the pillows and blankets. Whoever is close to these people should then try to get a blanket over their head--then they won't be able to see. Once that is done, get them down and keep them there. Do not let them up. I will then land the plane at the closest place and we WILL take care of them. \"After all, there are usually only a few of them and we are 200+ strong! We will not allow them to take over this plane. \"I find it interesting that the US Constitution begins with the words 'We, the people'--that's who we are, THE people and we will not be defeated.\" With that, the passengers on the plane all began to applaud, people had tears in their eyes, and we began the trip toward the runway. The flight attendant then began the safety speech. One of the things she said is that we are all so busy and live our lives at such a fast pace. She asked that everyone turn to their neighbors on either side and introduce themselves, tell each other something about your families and children, show pictures, whatever. She said \"For today, we consider you family. We will treat you as such and ask that you do the same with us.\" Throughout the flight we learned that for the crew, this was their first flight since Tuesday's tragedies. It was a day that everyone leaned on each other and together everyone was stronger than any one person alone. It was quite an experience. You can imagine the feeling when that plane touched down at Dulles and we heard \"welcome to Washington Dulles Airport, where the local time is 5:40.\" Again, the cabin was filled with applause. Last night I saw a program with college students where one of them said that at their campus there are no more hyphenated titles, i.e., African-American, etc., everyone is just an American. No one will ever be able to take that pride away from us."}, {"response": 616, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sun, Oct 7, 2001 (02:35)", "body": "Liz K) Whenever it was that they were in Boston about to try to get some suspects, the media caught on, and practically gave them a head start to get out of there before the FBI could get to them... The postscript to this incident: The day after the bombing, three Saudis in their early twenties traveled to Boston to visit their father, who was being treated at a hospital there. Their bill at the Westin Hotel was being paid by the fiancee of one of them -- a man whose name is similar to that of Mohamed Atta, one of the hijackers. After a hotel clerk tipped the FBI, agents swarmed the hotel. An agent saw one of the women outside her room and pointed a gun at her, according to the family's attorney, Jonathan Shapiro. She tried to run away but he grabbed her and hit her across the mouth, he said. The three were released after five hours, and the Saudi Embassy called it a \"humiliation.\" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37533-2001Sep27.html and: .......on Wednesday, a young Saudi woman in traditional garb, her face veiled, stepped out of her room at the Westin Copley Place Hotel, which had become a second home for her family during numerous trips to Boston to accompany their ailing father for medical treatment here. The plan was to meet her sister-in-law and brother-in-law at the elevator bank. She would barely get past her hotel room door. As she stooped to pick up a newspaper, a man in plain-clothes pointed a handgun at her as he grabbed her, dragged her down the hallway, and handcuffed her, barking demands that she silence her screams, according to her lawyer, Jonathan Shapiro. Thus began a five-hour ordeal for the woman and her family, in which, Shapiro alleges, she suffered a 6-inch scratch across her face, her sister-in-law was kicked in the head, and the whole family was detained for hours by authorities -including the FBI, Boston police, and Immigration and Naturalization Service officials - without the right to an attorney. Boston police referred all questions about the incident to the FBI, which declined comment. The family members, who asked that their names be withheld for fear of their safety, are well-connected Saudis with business interests in the region. Shapiro, a local criminal defense attorney, said he suspects they were targeted by law enforcement officials last week because the woman's fiance shares a name nearly identical to Mohamed Atta, one of the suspected hijackers in Tuesday's attack. The fiance had visited the family at the hotel but had left before the Wednesday incident. The interrogation, which followed a stake-out of the hotel and a raid by a Boston police SWAT team, FBI, and State Police detectives, took place in a climate of fear and anger the day after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Law enforcement sources later confirmed that there was no connection between the family and the hijackings, saying that it was a case of mistaken identity. The family yesterday permitted their attorney to speak on their behalf in the hope, Shapiro said, of highlighting the danger of indiscriminate targeting of Arabs. http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/259/nation/Saudi_family_accuses_agents_of_abuse_in_case_of_mistaken_identity+.shtml"}, {"response": 617, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 7, 2001 (06:35)", "body": "\"Fatima\", in the Afghani resistance group called RAWA, a women's-rights organization in which any member pretty much faces an automatic death sentence, was asked about the Northern Alliance by Salon: \"Do you support the Northern Alliance?\" \"We condemn the cooperation of the United States with the Northern Alliance. This is another nightmare for our people -- the Northern Alliance are the second Taliban. \"The Northern Alliance are hypocrites: They say they are for democracy and human rights, but we can't forget the black experience we had with them. Seventy-year-old grandmothers were raped during their rule, thousands of girls were raped, thousands were killed and tortured. They are the first government that started this tragedy in Afghanistan.\" http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/10/02/fatima/print.html I'm adding Salon to my list of news sources at http://www.spring.net/news They've been fearless in their coverage."}, {"response": 618, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 7, 2001 (17:48)", "body": "I see where attackes on Afghanistan have begun. It's been a non - news day for me so far. But I'll do a scan of the usual sources soon and turn on the tv, see what's been doing on."}, {"response": 619, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 7, 2001 (22:19)", "body": "Non-news??? I've been glued since 7AM Hawaiian time when we were looking for pre-game football. Afghanistan women tear my heart. NO one should be so treated. Thanks for the link! Sometimes you have to make deals with the Devil to catch a greater EVIL...!"}, {"response": 620, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (11:48)", "body": "I will remain calm. From The Miami Herald: Published Monday, October 8, 2001 Second case of anthrax found at South Florida tabloid BY MANNY GARCIA and LARRY LEBOWITZ The Boca Raton offices of American Media Inc. were shuttered Monday after a second employee showed signs of the rare anthrax bacteria that killed a 63-year-old photo editor for the Sun supermarket tabloid last week. The second employee, a 73-year-old man initially hospitalized for pneumonia, has not been determined to have anthrax, although a nasal swab showed signs he had been exposed to it, a state health official said. FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said the man, whose name has not been released, is in stable condition at an undisclosed South Florida hospital and is expected to survive. More than 300 employees of the National Enquirer, the Star, the Globe, the Sun and the Weekly World News who work for AMI are being asked to go to the health department offices in Delray Beach for antibiotics and further testing. On Monday, Florida Health Secretary John Agwunobi urged any employees or visitors ``who have spent more than an hour'' in the AMI building, 5401 NW Broken Sound Blvd., since Aug. 1, to go to the Delray Beach Health center. The health department has also set up a hotline, 1-800-342-3557, for anyone employed in the building or who has visited the building since Aug. 1. Agwunobi said a sample in the building tested positive for anthrax ``within the work area frequented by the first case.'' He said he believed the sample was from the computer keyboard of Bob Stevens, a Sun photo editor who died Friday of inhaled anthrax. FBI and health department officials said the second case was confirmed late Sunday night after nose swabs on a co-worker of Stevens showed signs of the bacteria that causes pulmonary anthrax. Tim O'Connor, spokesman for the Palm Beach County Health Department, said the man did not have a ``full blown'' case of anthrax, but the nasal swabs showed signs of the same bacterial spore that led to the fatal case of inhalation anthrax that killed Stevens and led to widespread fears -- so far unconfirmed -- of a bioterrorist attack. An environmental test inside the American Media building in Boca Raton also confirmed the presence of the bacteria, O'Connor said. Agwunobi said the person was found to have anthrax ``within his nasal cavities.'' He has not shown any symptoms of clinical anthrax, Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan said. State health officials received a ``preliminary positive indication'' of anthrax Sunday afternoon and confirmation ``was obtained late in the evening,'' Agwunobi said. ``The building has been secured for the purpose of further environmental public health testing and we have begun to contact employees,'' he said. ``Our intent is to have the employees come to a centralized site in the Palm Beach County area so we can test them, so we can provide them with education, and so that we can provide them with prophylactic antibiotics.'' Brogan said the FBI is ``in control'' of the investigation, and that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is working with the bureau. American Media is attempting to re-create visitor logs dating back to Aug. 1 as well as a complete list of former employees who may have been inside the building, in an office park near Glades Road, west of Interstate 95, as recently as Aug. 1. The company started notifying employees Sunday evening that they were not supposed to show up for work in Boca Raton. Many were initialy instructed to work at the offices of a sister publication, the Spanish language supermarket tabloid Mira! in downtown Miami. A growing team of investigators from the federal Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, working with the FBI and the state and local health departments, are continuing to re-create Stevens' personal and work habits and travels in hopes of identifying the source of the infection. At least five units from the Boca Raton police department started to block off parking lots, and shutter buildings of America Media Inc. Delivery people and FedEx trucks that usually do business in the building were turned back throughout the morning. Police and security personnel from American Media refused to say whether the health department had returned since finding out swabs taken from offices of the tabloid were positive for anthrax. Directly across the street, in a Broken Sound Boulevard office park, Peter Amodeo paced back and forth smoking a cigarette. He works for Paz Building Management, which runs an office across from American Media. ``Some people in our building are really freaking out. This is very scary. It's not like they raise chickens or anything in that building across the street,'' said Amodeo. ``And that building makes a lot of enemies because of the things they put in the paper. They have bomb scares all the time. They're always standing in our parking lot because the building is being searched. I think we're all just a little bit anxious today.'' Amodeo said "}, {"response": 621, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (13:36)", "body": "There goes Florida's tourism :-(("}, {"response": 622, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (13:59)", "body": "Moon, please wash your hands a lot! No rubbing your nose or eyes when out in public (yes, I know you know better!). Appatently this got transmitted to the second man with a contiminated computer keyboard. At least that is what we are hearing way out here 6 hours behind Florida! Hugs, Moon! We need you to be well and safe! And everyone else, too!"}, {"response": 623, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (14:02)", "body": "Speaking of tourism, Hawaii's has become nil since it requires long distance flying to get here and not commercial craft are being allowed in port other than the usual ones - and they get a complete inspection before being allowed in. There are advantages and disadvantages living out here so remotely. My island has NO strategic importance and little population. However, we have become self-sufficient by necessity!"}, {"response": 624, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (15:18)", "body": "Hugs, Moon! We need you to be well and safe! And everyone else, too! Thanks, Marcia! It appears some people in the Miami area have been sent envelopes containing a white powder. One man threw it out and it caused sparks and he suffered a burning sensation in his hand. Had to call paramedics and his family were all checked into the hospital."}, {"response": 625, "author": "winter", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (16:52)", "body": "Speaking (further) of tourism... My departure date to go to Indonesia (Bali) has been set back indefinitely. I was set to leave this month, to begin my dissertation research. A number of other scholars have been flown back to the US, as there have been numerous threats of \"sweeping\" tourist hotels for American and UK citizens. Ah well..."}, {"response": 626, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (17:01)", "body": "Indonesia is the largest Islamic country in the world. Be safe, Winter, Dear. Hilo is nice this time of year...! =)"}, {"response": 627, "author": "winter", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (17:12)", "body": "Marcia Indonesia is the largest Islamic country in the world Yes, although my research is in Bali, which is over 95% Hindu. BUT it also happens to be host to the densest population of Western tourists in the whole nation, so there's the possibility of the island still being targets of anti-US \"sweeps.\" Thanks, MArcia. I will be safe, by waiting this out a few more weeks."}, {"response": 628, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Mon, Oct 8, 2001 (19:40)", "body": "Suzee, I didn't know the rest of the story. Thanks for sharing that...how awful for them! I think the point I was trying to make is still there, however- a lot of people will be questioned and interogated, both innocent and guilty. I'm not saying that violent treatment by authorities is ok by any means. But I don't think that the media should be following every single little detail of the hunt. \"yellow journalism\" of sorts is not what we need right now, and I'm frankly scared that the media/the entertainment industry is going to give some would-be terrorist ideas as to what to do next, or let them know and give them warning that we're coming to get them in the next few minutes. Sorry, Terry...I know that belongs in another topic."}, {"response": 629, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 10, 2001 (13:29)", "body": "Statement by USGS Director Chip Groat on World Disaster Reduction Day Today, October 10, is World Disaster Reduction Day--a term that in the past has applied largely to natural disasters. But this year, in the wake of the September 11 attacks on the United States, it has taken on a new meaning. Unnatural disasters, those caused by hatred and intolerance, may seem an even more daunting challenge to our society than the earthquakes and floods we have faced before. However, the lessons we have learned from a century of battling natural hazards can help us in this new fight. Over the past 100 years, we've gotten much better at saving lives. In 1900, a hurricane hit Galveston, Texas, without warning, taking at least 6,000 lives and perhaps twice that many. In 1902, an incandescent cloud of volcanic gas and ash swept down the flanks of Mont Pelee, in Martinique, wiping out a city of 30,000 people. In 1906, a great earthquake struck San Francisco, taking hundreds to perhaps thousands of lives. From those disasters, we learned, and those lessons have saved lives throughout the 20th century. Terrorism has become another of the hazards we face, and we can use many of our approaches to dealing with natural hazards as we begin to deal with this unnatural hazard--approaches such as monitoring the warning signals, understanding the problem, sharing information, educating the public to take steps that protect themselves and their loved ones. It will take a long-term commitment from all sectors of our society, but we have made progress against the threat of natural disasters with these tools and we can use them to reduce the threat of terrorism as well. Many of the steps we have taken to mitigate one natural disaster have provided unexpected benefits for others--building codes that protect from ground shaking also strengthen buildings against strong winds and landslides. In the same way, actions to reduce risks and losses from natural disasters-- such as improved communication structures, better notification systems, strengthened infrastructures--can help protect us against attack, and actions to reduce vulnerability to terrorism can help in the fight against natural disasters. USGS capabilities have already been critically important as we respond to the disaster and prepare our Nation for the future. The USGS geospatial data set is the Nation's only national coverage of our infrastructure--our dams, bridges, highways, airports, and urban areas. These maps and images have contributed significantly to the efforts to understand the scope and focus resources as needed for recovery. Looking to the future, ongoing work on real-time water quality may prove invaluable in monitoring public water supplies to ensure our water is safe to drink. The geophysical techniques used to monitor earthquakes may be useful in response and recovery. These are only a few of the possibilities that can be envisioned. We need to bring the full impact of science and technology to bear on the hazards we face, whether terror in the skies or tremors in the Earth. The USGS stands ready to play our part in the struggle to ensure a safe and secure future for our children and our world. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kathleen K. Gohn U.S. Geological Survey Public Affairs Specialist Office of Communications 703-648-4242 phone 119 National Center 703-648-4466 fax Reston, VA 20192 kgohn@usgs.gov"}, {"response": 630, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 10, 2001 (14:25)", "body": "I happen to agree with Rush on this totally! Liberals among us, I read your posts. Afford me the same respect! From Rush's Page: On Monday, I received a note from the editrix of The Limbaugh Letter, Diana Schneider. I had not been watching PMSNBC this morning. I'd been flipping around to some other channels. Diana wrote the following: \"Rush, it seems that the peaceniks may have their atrocity that you advised them to wait for. All morning on PMSNBC there was nothing but moaning and wailing about four United Nations workers who reportedly were killed yesterday. These four were the only hope that poor, starving Afghan people had, we're being told. It's been wall-to-wall television grief. A U.N. spokesbabe came out and gave a snide lecture to the allied forces that combatants should be more careful to distinguish between soldiers and innocent civilians.\" Now, three or four people removing land mines during a war? Is that not what they were doing? This is the residue of the Princess Di legacy, here. These people didn't know enough to get out of the way. They're out in the middle of a war removing land mines, for crying out loud! This is not what I call intelligence! They're removing land mines in the middle of a war, and unfortunately, they go up and give 'em some orange vests! They pretend they're quarterbacks at a National Football League in practice or whatever, where they'd get red vests, so we won't target them. You know, there are some people - I'm not one of them, I want to stress this - who will say that the United Nations would not be above placing these people in this situation for this express purpose, just to cause this. I'm not one of them, but I think that you probably know that there are people who are, or who could hold that opinion. I've received another note from a friend who has an interesting perspective on these peaceniks, the U.N.-types who really think you can win wars with good vibes - the types who think a few U.N. workers dying is a tragedy, but that six thousand Americans dying isn't. Folks, the timing of the peaceniks couldn't be better for demonstrating exactly who and what they are. What they first and foremost are is anti- American. We hadn't even done anything yet, and they were demonstrating. They switched that one anti-WTO protest in Washington D.C. on a dime to being an anti-war protest, because what they are primarily is anti-American and anti-America's policies. If these people were to be patient, and wait for things they can call atrocities - like if we happen to bomb a building Mullah Omar calls a baby milk plant, or whatever - they might get some sympathy. You know what, I wonder if in Afghanistan they have abortion caves instead of hospitals. \"Rush, you're flirting dangerously here. You're risking offending people.\" Well, I'm just wondering. If we happen to hit a Mullah Omar cave or something or whatever, there'd be sympathy. I mean, they're trying to gin up an excuse to say we killed civilians - which they'll say no matter what. It's just not working. There was a conflicting story Monday that Mullah Omar, through a spokesman, told the world that 20 civilians had been killed in the first wave. Suddenly, they care about civilian casualties, now that we're bombing their strongholds around the clock. Day, night, clouds, sun, snow, pollution, clear as a bell - it doesn't matter. We're just hitting round the clock. There is no break from it. So they put out this news that 20 civilians were dead. Well, they got their signals crossed because they went to the hospital and the hospital said, \"Nope, nobody here.\" They had no reports of casualties in the hospitals or anywhere else! They're putting out false information, which is no surprise to us, but just bewilders the media and liberals. The point is that the protesters in this country, the peaceniks, ought to be waiting for us to do something bad before protesting. Instead, the minute we move to defend ourselves, the minute we take a defensive procedure, they go into action. They were in action as soon as we lost those five or six thousand people, as a matter of fact - and there's only one conclusion: they hate America, and they're so blinded by that hate, they aren't even aware of it."}, {"response": 631, "author": "Moon", "date": "Wed, Oct 10, 2001 (15:01)", "body": "Yeah, Marcia! I watch Italian TV via satellite and am disgusted by the thousands of protesters out with the red communist flag. They are nothing but trouble makers with no original thoughts of their own."}, {"response": 632, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Wed, Oct 10, 2001 (16:43)", "body": "~~~~(Liz K)I'm frankly scared that the media/the entertainment industry is going to give some would-be terrorist ideas as to what to do next, or let them know and give them warning that we're coming to get them in the next few minutes.~~~~ I didn't intend to disagree with your point - I don't want any leaks to create problems for the police, armed forces, etc., either as they capture (hopefully) these crazies. I do want them to exercise some caution. The incident in Boston happened the day after the attack on the WTC in a charged atmosphere. But I'm not as trusting of the government as some (maybe I've been on the receiving end of \"non-truths\" from too many different administrations). I like the idea of all the checks and balances and I want to know *everything* as soon as it is safe. I would prefer that neither the government nor the press nor the police (FBI, etc.) have free reign to do amything without being accountable. I like Walter Cronkite's idea about press coverage below (and I'm sorry, too, if this should be posted in the other topic-it's kind of a mixed bag). Cronkite, 84, believes the current generation of network anchors has been \"first-rate\" in their coverage ....With the potential of the United States waging war in Afghanistan and elsewhere, Cronkite cautions journalists not to become overly manipulated by the military. \"We can't let what happened in the Gulf War happen again, when the Pentagon wouldn't allow cameras to cover the war on the ground,\" he says. \"That doesn't mean you simply broadcast live from the battlefield so the enemy a mile away knows what American troops are doing. You work with the military about what information gets released when. We did that during World War II, and it worked just fine. The public has a right to know what really goes on.\" http://www.tvguide.com/magazine/robins/011008.asp An odd, but interesting story about the involvement of the entertainment industry (giving the government ideas!!): U.S. Army turns to Hollywood for theories By Guylaine Cadorette, Hollywood.com Staff HOLLYWOOD, October 9, 2001 -- Government intelligence specialists have been secretly appealing to Hollywood filmmakers and writers for terrorist scenarios, Variety reports. The U.S. Army ordered a special committee to gather at the University of Southern California last week to brainstorm possible terrorist targets and schemes in the U.S. and to offer possible solutions to those threats. The ad hoc committee was formed in August 1999 after the Army awarded a five-year contract to USC to create the Institute for Creative Technologies. The ISC was to enlist the entertainment industry, video game makers and computer scientists to improve virtual reality and simulation training for soldiers. Screenwriters Steven E. de Souza (Die Hard), Paul De Meo and Danny Bilson (The Rocketeer) are involved in the committee, as are directors David Fincher (Fight Club), Spike Jonze (Being John Malkovich), Randal Kleiser (Grease) and Mary Lambert (The In Crowd). One USC insider told Variety the group was focused on short-term threats against the country and had already met twice via telephone conference with the Pentagon. James Korris, ITC creative director, confirmed that meetings with the Army were taking place but did not elaborate on any specific committee recommendations. http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/article/1093259"}, {"response": 633, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Oct 10, 2001 (19:46)", "body": "Walter Cronkite:The public has a right to know what really goes on.\" While I agree with him, IMO the journalists today are not in the same category as the ones in WW II. They seem to be more agressive & self-serving. And in some ways disdainful of the administration and the armed forces.They never got over Viet- Nam. Not many Ernie Pyles around."}, {"response": 634, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 10, 2001 (20:31)", "body": "Yup, Evelyn. You are sadly correct. It is all show business now, and ratings! Be safe, My Dear! *HUGS* Tornadoes!!! NO playing Helen Hunt, please! We love you!"}, {"response": 635, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (09:31)", "body": "It's been one month now. The changes wrought to our society and way of life have been enormous. But life will go on. India helped FBI trace ISI-terrorist links MANOJ JOSHI TIMES NEWS NETWORK NEW DELHI: While the Pakistani Inter Services Public Relations claimed that former ISI director-general Lt-Gen Mahmud Ahmad sought retirement after being superseded on Monday, the truth is more shocking. Top sources confirmed here on Tuesday, that the general lost his job because of the \"evidence\" India produced to show his links to one of the suicide bombers that wrecked the World Trade Centre. The US authorities sought his removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 were wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mahumd. Senior government sources have confirmed that India contributed significantly to establishing the link between the money transfer and the role played by the dismissed ISI chief. While they did not provide details, they said that Indian inputs, including Sheikh\ufffds mobile phone number, helped the FBI in tracing and establishing the link. A direct link between the ISI and the WTC attack could have enormous repercussions. The US cannot but suspect whether or not there were other senior Pakistani Army commanders who were in the know of things. Evidence of a larger conspiracy could shake US confidence in Pakistan\ufffds ability to participate in the anti-terrorism coalition. \" continued at http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1454238160 and why and how osama escaped our 75 missiles: \" \ufffd98 attack: Tip off to Osama cooked ISI chief\ufffds goose"}, {"response": 636, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (10:12)", "body": "More recent comments on the terrorism issue from Woods today, courtesy Amy Reiter's Salon.com gossip column: ---------------- \"I won't get on an airplane unless it's an absolute necessity,\" Woods tells the Calgary Sun. And that's just one of the ways the creepy actor has seen fit to adjust his life in light of the recent terrorist attacks. \"I won't go into a stadium, and I won't attend a big public event,\" he says. He's also refusing to travel to New York for the premiere of his new movie, \"Riding in Cars With Boys,\" despite a specific request from Mayor Giuliani. \"I think too few people have grasped the reality we're totally and irrevocably at war,\" Woods opines. And though he refuses to comment even now about the four Middle Eastern-looking men he told the FBI he encountered a few months back, he will say this. \"I've spent a great deal of time lately talking to the FBI and have learned some startling things. I'm convinced, as they are, that there will be more horrific acts of terrorism.\""}, {"response": 637, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (12:46)", "body": "I was absolutely delightedly stunned to see the Prime Ministers of Pakistan and India cooperating and greeting one another on the news last night. War breeds strange alliances. Perhaps there might be some good out of the ashes of this very frightening time. On Art Bell's show last night they were longing for the good old days of the checks and balances of the Cold War era. Who could have imagined!"}, {"response": 638, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (13:03)", "body": ""}, {"response": 639, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (19:03)", "body": "The White House and the media have agreed not to turn Bin Laden's video releases in to tv wallpaper, playing them round the clock in their entirety. The idea, as I get it, is that these tapes may contain coded instructions to sleepers waiting to wreak destruction. Makes sense. An example is the statement that doesn't make sense about the \"80 years\" as the period of oppression. I mean, nothing really happened in 1921 that relates to this, or does it? The lead story now is that there may be additional terrorist attacks over the next several days, according to the FBI. The President is going to speak in about 15 seconds."}, {"response": 640, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (19:25)", "body": "Finally sanity. It got so nauseating to see him speak on tv that I shut it off. as for 1921: Anglo-Afghan Treaty of 1921 Also called \" Treaty of Kabul\" because it was negotiated and signed at Kabul by Henry R. C. Dobbs, the British envoy, and Mahmud Tarzi, chief of the Afghan delegation, after arduous, eleven month negotiations. The treaty restored \"friendly and commercial relations\" between the two governments after the third Anglo-Afghan War and negotiations at the Mussoorie Conference and Rawalpindi. The negotiations proceeded in four phases: During the first session, January 20 to April 9, 1921, the Afghan Amir unsuccessfully demanded territorial concessions, while Britain wanted the exclusion of Russian consular offices from southeastern Afghanistan. In the second phase, from April 9 to mid-July, 1921, Britain asked Afghanistan to break the newly established diplomatic with Russia in exchange for a subsidy of 4 million rupee and weapons, as well as guarantees from unprovoked Russian aggression. When in the third stage, from mid-July to September 18, the British foreign office informed the Italian government that it was about to conclude an agreement which would, \"admit the superior and predominant political influence of Britain\" in Afghanistan, the Afghans refused to accept an \"alliances.\" An exclusive treaty was impossible after Afghanistan announced ratification of the Russian-Afghan treaty of 1921. In the fourth and final stage of negotiations, from September 18 to December 8, 1921, the British mission twice made preparations to return to India, when finally an agreement was signed at Kabul on November 22, 1921. Ratifications were exchanged on February 6 of 1922. In the treaty both government \"mutually certify and respect each with regard to the other all rights of internal and external independence.\" Afghanistan reaffirmed its acceptance of the boundary west of the Khaibar, subject to minor \"re-alignment.\" Legations were to be opened in London and Kabul, consulates established in various Indian and Afghan towns, and Afghanistan was permitted to import arms and munitions through India. No customs duties were to be charged for goods in transit to Afghanistan and each party agreed to inform the other of major military operations in the frontier belt. Representatives of both states were to meet in the near future to discuss conclusion of a trade convention, which was signed in June 1923. more... http://www.afghan-network.net/Culture/treaties.html"}, {"response": 641, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (22:42)", "body": "Bush gave one of his best tv appearances tonight. He was eloquent, this whole crisis has moved him to a level many didn't feel he was capable of acheiving. He asked every child in America to send a dollar to a child in Afghanistan."}, {"response": 642, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Fri, Oct 12, 2001 (06:15)", "body": "Hi all Marcia, a cartoon wizard by the name Garrick Tremain lives in New Zealand. I will send you a copy of the October 12, 2001 cartoon in the Press. ITS BRILLIANT!!!!! If you can wait a few days more, you will also get some photos from me of my house and it's residents. I have some ready to go, but have not yet dispatched them. Rob"}, {"response": 643, "author": "Moon", "date": "Fri, Oct 12, 2001 (13:55)", "body": "Perhaps there might be some good out of the ashes of this very frightening time. True unification for peace. It is a dream, let's hope it becomes a reality. As for 1921 could be 1+9=10 the month October and 21 the date. It could be a date to watch for."}, {"response": 644, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 12, 2001 (18:45)", "body": "Moon!! That is My Son's Wedding day!!! Salvation Army Team Emergency Response Network update One month into its disaster relief support operation in New York City, Salvation Army Team Emergency Response Network (SATERN) volunteers are holding up well. SATERN Amateur Radio Liaison Officer Jeff Schneller, N2HPO, says his current team is doing a fantastic job, and the operation could run for several more weeks. SATERN is now ''making do'' with at least six Amateur Radio volunteers per day, from about 9 AM until 11 PM, primarily to support the Salvation Army World Trade Center canteen operation. Operators have come from all over, including New Hampshire, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida and Missouri, and Schneller said he even had offers of help from England and Canada. Two local groups--the Broadcast Employees Amateur Radio Society (BEARS) and the Electchester VHF Club have been providing exclusive use of their repeaters since Day One. Schneller, who's in the fire alarm and sprinkler business, also has been involved from the start, and--with the understanding and support of his customers--has been logging some long hours. He said most of the volunteers' employers have been supportive as well. Carlos Varon, K2LCV, has been Schneller's backup and is in charge of scheduling volunteers. SATERN radio volunteers have been handling base station duties at Salvation Army Headquarters on 14th Street in Manhattan as well as providing communication at key field sites, aboard supply trucks and at the distribution warehouse. Schneller thanked the dozens of Amateur Radio operators who have turned out to assist. He also said he appreciated the many other offers to help. SATERN now is limiting its fresh volunteers to those available from the Greater New York City area. Schneller strongly advised all Amateur Radio operators to prepare for the future by first getting acquainted with and joining their local ARES or SATERN teams, then by taking the ARRL Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Course. More information about SATERN is available on the SATERN Web site, http://www.satern.org . Information on the ARRL's emergency communications course is available on the ARRL Web site, http://www.arrl.org/cce/ ."}, {"response": 645, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 12, 2001 (20:27)", "body": "In SLATE someone did a back calculation from Osama bin Laden's citation of \"80 years\" of Islamic suffering. Using the Islamic religious calendar, not the solar or secular 365-day calendar, 9-11-01 turned out to be the exact 80 year anniversary of the ending of the Caliphate by Ataturk. Which makes the most sense of anything."}, {"response": 646, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 12, 2001 (20:38)", "body": "yup!!! Just please not the 21st of October...! I wonder if the antibiotics I am taking now will protect me from anthrax future? Probably not..."}, {"response": 647, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 12, 2001 (20:49)", "body": "11 Sept. 2001 = 23 Jumada Al-Thani 1422 23 Jumada Al-Thani 1342 = 29 January 1924 The Caliphate was abolished on 3 March 1924. http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupk/history.htm"}, {"response": 648, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (05:35)", "body": "Hi all Marcia: yup!!! Just please not the 21st of October...! Rob: And I suppose it is not an option to shift the wedding to a certain spot in Hilo or even better, to a certain city on the east coast of the South Island?? Get a hint?? Rob"}, {"response": 649, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (05:40)", "body": "Why?? There are some advantages to being in a little country like New Zealand. Save perhaps for Fiji, and maybe Australia we are too small to annoy the hell out anyone enough that they would decide to attack the country. Last country we annoyed was France, and they sent two government agents to blow up the Rainbow Warrior (flagship of Greenpeace), in Waitemata Harbour, Auckland. Some Kiwis have never forgiven the French for that and some probably never will. Rob"}, {"response": 650, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (10:55)", "body": "Well, it looks like no one is gonna pull any atrocities in China: This from AP: CHINA BLOCKS MIDDLE EAST TICKET HOLDERS \"Beijing authorities have instructed Chinese airlines in HK to halt tickets sales to nationals of 19 countries , mainly in the Middle East. China National Aviation Corp , the sole agent of 10 mainland airlines in HK, told travel agents to stop selling tickets to China to holders of certain passports and to refund purchased tickets...for \"safety reasons\". The memo added tht there would not be a \"total ban\" ..wording that may have been meant to allow room for diplomats or dignitaries to travel.\""}, {"response": 651, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (15:03)", "body": "Evelyn.....thanks for posting that. I had no idea...!!! Rob, it has been suggested that we claim independence from the US as overthrown Hawaiian nationhood and all that. Rather nasty suggestion, actually. There is not much difference in the poor classes and women status of old Hawaii and old Afghanistan when you get down to the ugly truth. In any case, Mme Pele would love to bless their wedding and I am certain would the loveliness of Christchurch. What a wonderful excuse to go way-down-under!"}, {"response": 652, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (15:11)", "body": "Another thought on China and forbidding sales of tickets to the Mideast. Our terrorists came in from Canada, from other outside the US places. They took flying lessons and got credentials. For all I know, the pilot of the plane taking me to my son's wedding is a licensed professional pilot bent on sending me to eternal damnation and he to the 20 virgins waiting for him. China is so vast it would be easy to get there illegally!!!"}, {"response": 653, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (15:40)", "body": "Oh no Marcia, please have faith that you will arrive safely to your son's wedding. The US/Canadian border is so long, is there anyway that it can possibly be effectively controlled? I think that I'd read something some time ago about the Chinese government being very wary of the possiblity of Islamic fundamentalist groups within China. There are provinces in western China were the population is largely not ethnically Chinese and Muslim. This, of course, doesn't mean that all of the Islamic citizens of China want to create their own Islamic republics. I haven't come across the topic since."}, {"response": 654, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (16:14)", "body": "Cheryl!!! *HUGS* welcome back! I cannot imagine patrolling China's borders if we cannot control the distances involved on our Canadian border. Unhappily, I think we are just restricting law-abiding citizens. The truly evil will find way to accomplish their nefarous ends. Just like gun laws. Thanks for the good thoughts on my son's wedding. My phamacist, yesterday, said she has very good vibes that all would be well. I'm hanging onto that thought!"}, {"response": 655, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (08:44)", "body": "Going after the big fish (financial): http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/13/international/13ASSE.html"}, {"response": 656, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (19:50)", "body": "Now, in the \"if this turns out to be true\" department: XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SAT OCT 13, 2001 15:29:42 ET XXXXX MAG: U.S. FAILED TO KILL TALIBAN LEADER WHEN HE WAS IN SIGHT DURING FIRST NIGHT OF WAR; RUMSFELD FURIOUS The U.S. military failed to kill Taliban leader Mullah Omar when he was in its sights during the first night of the war, the NEW YORKER is planning to report on Monday. According to publishing sources, Seymour Hersh has filed a story quoting top intelligence-community members claiming to be 'crestfallen' about the incident. MORE Reaction in Washington to the failure to strike immediately was fierce, Hersh reports. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was \"kicking a lot of glass and breaking doors,\" one military official said. An unmanned Predator reconnaissance aircraft operating in the Kabul area identified a convoy carrying Mullah Omar as he fled the capital. The Predator is armed with two anti-tank missiles, but under the rules of engagement in effect Sunday night the C.I.A. could not order such a strike. Although the precise sequence of events could not be fully learned, Hersh reports, General Tommy R. Franks, the commander in charge at the United States Central Command in Florida reported that 'Judge Advocate General, a legal officer', doesn't like this, so we're not going to fire.' It was decided to target a few cars in front of the building to perhaps scare Mullah Omar out of the building to take a look. Omar did leave the building, but not immediately. Soon after he left, Hersh reports, the building was targeted and destroyed by F-18s, too late to kill Omar. \""}, {"response": 657, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (19:57)", "body": "\"According to the intelligence report, the U.S. tipped off Israel last week that bin Laden's al Qaeda cells and networks in Lebanon were complete and ready to launch strikes in Israel. They operate under the command of Imad Mughniyeh, terrorism and intelligence consultant to Iranian spiritual leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the report. As former head of the Lebanese militant Hezbollah's security apparatus in the 1980s, Mughniyeh was responsible for the 1993 bombing of the U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks in Beirut and the blasting of Israeli locations in Argentina.\" http://www.freeman.org/m_online/may01/debka.htm \"Following the kidnapping last October of the four men P three soldiers on the Lebanese border and Tannenbaum outside the country -J DEBKAfile revealed for the first time that the notorious Lebanese hostage-taker Imad Mughniyeh was behind the snatch P not the Hizballah. This now ties in with another surprising development, recently pieced together by US intelligence in the course of its investigation of the terrorist-bombing of the US Cole in Aden harbor in the same month as the kidnappings: Iranian spiritual ruler Ayatollah KhameneiUs personal security service, which is headed by Mughniyeh, has struck a deal with Bin LadenUs al Qaeda for an operational partnership against US Gulf and Middle East targets as well as Israeli and Jewish interests worldwide.\" http://www.debka.com/TERRORISM/body_terrorism.html"}, {"response": 658, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (20:07)", "body": "CHINA BLOCKS MIDDLE EAST TICKET HOLDERS Incredible! But there might be something to it. In Italy there was an anti-war march from Perugia to Assisi there were more than one hundred thousand people. In other cities in Europe there were also anti-war protests. It turns out that Milan is the main European hub for muslim terrorists. Five were arrested today that had planned to bomb the US Embassy in Rome. Which is on Via Veneto. The US better get the ground troups in there and do what they're supposed to do. What is holding them up?"}, {"response": 659, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 14, 2001 (20:13)", "body": "Take a look at David Kline's comments on ground troops in news 54. It strikes at the heart of our survival."}, {"response": 660, "author": "mari", "date": "Mon, Oct 15, 2001 (08:31)", "body": "(Moon)In Italy there was an anti-war march from Perugia to Assisi there were more than one hundred thousand people. In other cities in Europe there were also anti-war protests. Yes, I saw some of them interviewed, talking about the need to resolve this through \"peaceful negotiations.\" I'd like to know--what planet do these people come from? Negotiations with whom--with people who do not even value their own lives? Their naivete is appalling."}, {"response": 661, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Oct 15, 2001 (09:24)", "body": "They are Communists, Mari. Unfortunately, Umbria is a predominantly communist region in Italy. They have no clue. They should just stick to their great wines and mineral waters. I thank God that in Italy we now have a center-right governement after years of abuse from the secular left."}, {"response": 662, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 15, 2001 (16:14)", "body": "Amen, Moon. Oh, I'm taking the \"Story of Yew' on my plane trip upcoming in three days. I understand it is very good and a good diversion for what will be a tense flight. I hope we all wish to get to our destination with lives intact."}, {"response": 663, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Oct 15, 2001 (17:00)", "body": "I will be thinking of you on Oct. 21st. My very best wishes to you, your son and his bride. :-D"}, {"response": 664, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 15, 2001 (17:44)", "body": "Thanks for your good wishes. I have forwarded them to the Bride and Groom. More at Geo 40 so I don't add too much bliss to a serious topic. Please be careful, Moon, dear! You are not replaceable!!! What a great reason for not opening junk mail!"}, {"response": 665, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (10:47)", "body": "\"Rumseld, fielding reporters' questions at the Pentagon, ridiculed Taliban claims of hundreds of civilian casualties in Afghanistan. The ruling militia escorted American journalists around a crater-pocked area near the village of Karam over the weekend to buttress their claim. But the defense secretary said the targets in that case were underground caves suspected of being used to store weapons. Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that a secondary fire touched off by the bomb ``went on for three and a half to four hours.'' Said Rumsfeld: ``They were not cooking cookies inside those tunnels... You do not spend that kind of money and dig that far in and store that many weapons ... unless you have very serious purposes for doing it.'' He said the individuals in the vicinity ``clearly were connected to those activities.'' http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Attacks-Washington.html It was a tv reporters insertion that said Rumsfeld said the amunition may have caused destruction in the small commuity."}, {"response": 666, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (12:04)", "body": "The media is running the risk of becoming a great propaganda machine. Someone should pull the plug."}, {"response": 667, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (14:25)", "body": "YES, Moon! I will not watch some stations for that very reason. I am back to listening to NPR... Thank you for posting in the 666 position. Hardly demonic, I think!"}, {"response": 668, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (16:23)", "body": "Thank you for posting in the 666 position. Hardly demonic, I think! LOL! That's alright Marcia, in college my PO Box # was 0069. T'is true!"}, {"response": 669, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (18:01)", "body": "In college my phone number was extension 1234. When a guy asked for it, and I gave it to him, he often looked at me sideways and asked me to tell him if I was not interested in him. Numbers are curious things. In Hebrew characters, the characters can either be letters or numbers!"}, {"response": 670, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (15:45)", "body": "From Fox: Terrorists Failed in Their Ultimate Mission Wednesday, October 17, 2001 Glenn Harlan Reynolds Five weeks have passed since the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and from what we have learned in that time I think it's fair to pronounce the attacks a near-total failure. True, they caused unprecedented death and devastation. But the attacks were not, really, about death and devastation. They were about terror, which is why those who perpetrated them are called terrorists. The goal, as now seems clear, was to provoke a frightened and inflamed United States to lash out indiscriminately, create a split between the Islamic world and the West and to deliver some existing regimes ? chiefly in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Algeria ? into the hands of Islamic fundamentalists. At the same time, the U.S. would collapse under domestic fear and quickly sue for peace, abandoning Israel and offering a complete withdrawal of its influence from North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia as the price it would pay to prevent similar attacks from happening again. It seems pretty clear that this was the terrorists' plan, and when measured against these objectives, it is also clear that this plan failed. Understanding why the terrorists ultimately failed means understanding the true nature of the United States' core strength. The plot failed in part because of the immediate response by the government to quickly ground flights ? most likely preventing additional hijackings ? and by the passengers of United Airlines flight 93 who bravely overtook the hijackers and probably saved the Capitol and/or the White House from destruction. It failed more fundamentally because the U.S. did not react the way that Usama bin Laden's followers expected. Having apparently watched the Denzel Washington movie The Siege ? a film that depicted mass hysteria incited by Islamic terrorist attacks in New York ? one too many times, bin Laden's men overestimated the likelihood that the U.S. would panic and overreact. They also learned the wrong lesson from previous cases when a few casualties caused the U.S. to withdraw from foreign commitments; hitting Americans on American soil isn't the same thing. But most significantly, the terrorists misjudged the reaction of American women. In the past, American women have been far more reluctant to see the nation go to war than men. But this time, American women seem to be, if anything, more bellicose than the men. Part of this hawkish reaction by American women stems from the attack being on American soil, killing civilians, parents, children, and spouses. But part of it also stems from the fact that these attackers represent a culture that brutally oppresses women. When I remarked to a friend that my Web site was generating more bellicose e-mail on the war from women than from men, he compared their reaction to what could be the expected response of African Americans if the U.S. had gone to war against apartheid South Africa. I think he's onto something. Media targeted at women seem to be bearing this theory out: The most recent issue of the Star tabloid features a special 12-page section on the war emphasizing the role of women in combat from the Gulf War, to women serving today on aircraft carriers. There is a feature on the \"defiantly lipstick-wearing\" female anti-Taliban guerrillas in Afghanistan and a sidebar on 17-year-old British female sailor Jodie Jones of HMS Illustrious who declares, \"I'm ready for action!\" A profile of a female three-star general concludes, \"as the nation launches an all-out counterattack on Usama bin Laden and his evil henchmen, we couldn't be in better hands.\" In America and Europe, the emotional and political tone is largely set by middle-class married women. These women ? who never much thought about the Taliban and Islamic regimes ? are thinking about them now, and they don't like them. American and European women are likely to be far more supportive of military action against the misogynist regimes of radical Islamic states than of other kinds of military action. They're also likely, even after the war, to keep pushing for female emancipation throughout the Islamic world. The liberation of Islamic women is the thing, I think, that bin Laden and his ilk fear the most. But as a majority of voters in the world's richest and most powerful countries, American and European women are likely to eventually get what they want. It may take a couple of decades, but a direct consequence of the Sept. 11 atrocities may be the liberation of women throughout the Islamic world. For bin Laden, the Taliban and their supporters and followers, that would be a failure. A colossal failure."}, {"response": 671, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (22:14)", "body": "American and European women are likely to be far more supportive of military action against the misogynist regimes of radical Islamic states than of other kinds of military action. Hell hath no fury like women seeking to liberate other women forced to wear ugly fashions. ;-)"}, {"response": 672, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (23:34)", "body": "YES!!! Karen! Right on. Gazooks what they have conceived for us to wear... we must be roundly hated by the male fasion pundits. arrgh!"}, {"response": 673, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (23:36)", "body": "Not to mention those spooky garment which hide women of certain faiths. Their men must be very insecure!"}, {"response": 674, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Oct 18, 2001 (22:19)", "body": "A Boston trauma expert arrived in NYC shortly after September 11th. At the conclusion of his visit, he observed \"starting around the Thanksgiving holiday and through the New Year, a major mental health crisis will emerge in the city and surrounding area.\" Indeed, doctors and mental health experts are already observing the psychological fallout from the disaster rippling out from ground zero. Those at highest risk were personally exposed to the events, especially those threatened with injury or death. The second ripple includes those who lost friends, loved ones, or coworkers and those involved in recovery work. For the rest of us who spent days glued to our TV sets as the horror unfolded, even this exposure can trigger disabling symptoms, particularly in those with preexisting problems with anxiety, depression, or posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD). With these encouraging words: \"Most people will recover as long as we maximize the normal recovery process,\" another expert encouraged everyone experiencing i trusive mental or physical anguish from the attack to seek help. For more information, check out http://www.psych.org and click on \"Coping With a National Tragedy.\" from www.femailhealthnews.com"}, {"response": 675, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 19, 2001 (07:02)", "body": "One of my coworkers suggested we train women in combat and send them in dressed in traditional women's garb with veils and all, they could move in to areas our troops couldn't reach easily and they could pack quite a bit of concealed ammo and weapons under all that clothing."}, {"response": 676, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 19, 2001 (15:34)", "body": "Hmmmm!!! That sound better than the email making the rounds suggesting every plane take off with a baby pig aboard. If a Muslim is buried with swine (\"unclean\") they believe they are doomed to Hell. Then, do the suggested air drops of 100,000 swine into Afghanistan... Perhaps there is merit to this after all."}, {"response": 677, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 21, 2001 (00:38)", "body": "What's up with this? October 20, 2001 THE AMBASSADOR Don't Doubt Steadfastness of Taliban, Envoy Insists By JOHN F. BURNS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/20/international/asia/20STAN.html?todaysheadlines \"He was asked how it was that Mullah Omar had declared a \"holy war\" against the United States \ufffd and had said it was the duty of all Muslims to rally to the Taliban's side \ufffd but that not a single government among the 56 Muslim nations had rallied to the Taliban's cause. \"Inshallah,\" or God willing, he said, \"there will be a lot of Muslims joining us.\" And if not, he added, it is hardly the Taliban's part to persuade them. \"All of our actions are according to the Shariah law,\" he said, invoking the Islamic legal code. \"We do not argue with people, and we do not reason with them.\" But the most evocative response came with a resounding laugh from the mullah and a kind of thigh-slapping comicality from his interpreter, a huge man with an eyepatch. Toward the end of the 40-minute audience, he was asked if the anthrax attacks in the United States had been masterminded by Mr. bin Laden. \"Anthrax?\" he said, and then paused as if for theatrical effect. \"We don't know about this. We don't know what it is.\" Across the garden, many of the 150 reporters from across the world joined in the burst of laughter, drowning out the birds chirping at the approach of dusk.\""}, {"response": 678, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 21, 2001 (14:54)", "body": "Do you detect more than a little sadism in this press conference? We are permitting our thoughts to be diverted by press giving space and credibility to such rantings? Pathetic!"}, {"response": 679, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 21, 2001 (15:56)", "body": "Greek Americans join relief effort Greek Orthodox Church also helps open funds in support of victims of September 11 terrorist attacks on USA With thousands of innocent civilians having perished in the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, and many remaining homeless and jobless since the collapse of the World Trade Center, the Greek-American community and the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese are joining nationwide relief efforts. The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America has asked that all parishes conduct a memorial service tomorrow to commemorate the 40 days that have passed since thousands of people were killed that Tuesday morning. \"On this solemn occasion let each and every one of us light a special candle for the September 11 victims, the proceeds of which should be sent to the Sept. 11 Relief Fund of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America,\" an encyclical instructed. The relief fund and the Sept. 11 Relief Center at the St. Barbara Greek Orthodox Church, located close to the disaster site in New York City, were founded by the Archdiocese. Contributions to the fund presently total $1.2 million and have been generated by organizations, individuals and parishes from across the country and around the world. Moreover, the newly established Department of Philanthropy of the Archdiocese, headed by Archimandrite Antonios Paropoulos, is also expected to play an important role in relief efforts. Both the Greek Orthodox Church and the Greek-American community suffered losses that Tuesday morning last month, as several Americans of Greek descent died while at work in the Twin Towers and St. Nicholas Church was crushed under the falling debris. The Archdiocese announced that the church will be rebuilt once rescue workers have completed their work and construction crews have cleared the debris from the area. In a gesture of support and concern over the destruction of St. Nicholas Church, Martin Kaplan, chairman of the American-Jewish Committee (AJC), this week donated $10,000 of AJC funds to the Archdiocese for the church's reconstruction. \"This gesture is a treasure, a movement of the heart,\" Archbishop Demetrios of America said after the meeting. In addition to the relief efforts of the Archdiocese, there is a similar campaign by the Greek-American community organized by the American Hellenic Educational Progressive Association (AHEPA). AHEPA Supreme President Andrew T. Banis announced recently that the association was launching an international fund-raising drive to raise $100,000 for disaster relief needed as a result of last month's terrorist attacks. This announcement builds upon a previous call directed to its chapters and members to provide disaster relief by organizing blood drives and donating blood. \"As our nation prepares for a sustained campaign against terrorism the Greek-American community must stand side-by-side with this effort, offering our resources for the protection of democracy, freedom, and humanity,\" Banis said. \"Therefore, I am calling on the AHEPA family to focus all its energy in this effort to raise a minimal amount of $100,000 by November 1.\" According to Banis, once the fund-raising goal is achieved, the funds will be allocated to one or more of the charitable organizations assisting with disaster relief, including the American Red Cross, Salvation Army, and the Firefighter's Fund. The $100,000 raised will be in addition to the financial contribution provided by AHEPA to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund. Established in 1922, AHEPA is the largest Greek-American association in the world with its own chapters in the USA, Canada and Greece, as well as sister chapters in Australia. MIRON VAROUHAKIS More... http://www.ekathimerini.com/news/content.asp?aid=104435"}, {"response": 680, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Mon, Oct 22, 2001 (01:06)", "body": "(Karen)Hell hath no fury like women seeking to liberate other women forced to wear ugly fashions. ;-) ****** ROTFL"}, {"response": 681, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 23, 2001 (21:03)", "body": "David Kline (who has his own topic in the news conference): We'll get to a real war footing, eventually, but pyschologically right now I think folks are still hopinmg against hope that it'll somehow turn out to be a movie-of-the-week sort of war. A temporary disruption, that's all. But soon enough, I'm afraid, casualties won't make the news unless they're double or triple digit. And the American people will be expected -- indeed, *required* to make and accept daily sacrifices as normal. War lite. Perfect."}, {"response": 682, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 26, 2001 (07:55)", "body": "It's those darn liberals again ;-)B http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/10/21/stiusausa02030.html October 21 2001 TERRORISM ULTRA ZEALOTS: If you think Bin Laden is extreme - some Muslims want to kill him because he's soft IF YOU thought Osama Bin Laden's brand of Islamic fundamentalism was as extreme as it gets, think again. A rival group of Muslim terrorists exists which regards him as an infidel who has sold out. Bin Laden's declaration of war against the West has failed to impress Takfir wal-Hijra, an ultra-hardcore group that has won a reputation for unbridled savagery in Egypt and Sudan. Hamza: even he's shocked Its fundamentalism is so extreme that members have embarked on killing sprees in mosques against fellow Muslims in the belief that a pure Islamic state can be built only if the corrupt elements of the last one are wiped out. In this they see Bin Laden and his followers as pragmatists who are \"excessively liberal\". To drive the point home, four of its members pulled up in a pick-up truck outside his house in Sudan in 1995, spraying it with bullets in an effort to kill him . . . \"They are nothing but a bunch of extremists,\" said Abu Hamza, the claw-handed radical preacher at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, who outraged public opinion in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center by describing them as an act of \"self-defence\"."}, {"response": 683, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 26, 2001 (08:30)", "body": "\"The world's most wanted terrorist suffered a setback as first word of a fatality among the top ranks of his Al-Qaeda network was reported on Thursday by a London-based Islamic group. ...The Islamic Observation Center said in an e-mailed statement to The Associated Press that an Egyptian militant, identified by his nom de guerre Abu Baseer al-Masri, was killed by a bomb on Sunday near Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan.\" Source: http://www.ecola.com/go/?f=&r=as&u=www.hindustantimes.com"}, {"response": 684, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 26, 2001 (14:14)", "body": "Reacting to the news of Abdul Haq's execution today by the Taliban: Oh man, this is a real tragedy -- on the scale of Massoud's death. He was Pashtun, one of the few with enough credibility and respect to be able to potentially rally fellow tribesmen away from the Taliban. And he was quite simply a great guy. Educated, funny, always playing practical jokes, a lover of poetry and music, and incredibly brave. He lost a foot to a land mine and thereafter hopped (literally) into battle. He was also kind. Western reporters who travelled with him and his fighters always had the feeling that Abdul Haq was looking after them, personally. Very solicitous of other's needs; very respectful of women. Abdul Haq was no toady of the U.S., either. He could be very critical of imperial behavior by the U.S., and indeed criticized the current bombing effort as potentially galvanizing of Taliban resistance. I could tell you stories about him. One time he flirted with my girlfriend just to see my reaction (wink wink, nod nod, then he burst out laughing at my obvious discomfort). And he loved to trade good natured insults -- \"You feeble Americans, even our women walk faster than you ... \"Yeah, no shit Abdul, with guys like you after them, no wonder!\" I don't know what else to say. Maybe it's not true. But it probably is. - David Kline"}, {"response": 685, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 26, 2001 (14:14)", "body": "More on the bin Laden death story: http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/interrogatory102501b.shtml"}, {"response": 686, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 26, 2001 (20:19)", "body": "More from a shocked and dismayed David Kline: I really am finding this hard to believe: the two greatest living Afghans, Massoud and Abdul Haq, both murdered in less than two months by the Taliban. And it's difficult to explain how much these men symbolized hope for Afghanistan, even in their personal manner. Massoud spoke French, loved literature and led his men quietly, almost shyly. Abdul Haq was a poet with the charisma of a warrior, a big (teddy) bear of a man who laughed easily. They were cosmopolitan, sophisticated about the ways of both the West & the East -- not at all the sort of \"warlord\" the media is so fond of presenting these days. It has become easy, of course, to shake our heads and tsk tsk the Afghans for all the ways that they are screwed up. But you could never think such things in the presence of Massoud or Abdul Haq. They were truly *impressive.* And their vision was wider and deeper than you might expect of people who had lived in caves and mountain redoubts for so long. Each imagined a liberated Afghanistan with schools for all, electricity for all, a new class of women doctors trained to give medical care to all, and economic development schemes that were rather well thought out. But mostly, they imagined peace. Just peace. For a people who hadn't had it in 25 years. I just spoke to the woman who was my girlfriend then (she did refugee work along the Afghan border at the time) and she reminded me that our first date was very traditional -- \"dinner and a movie\" -- except for the fact that it was at Abdul Haq's house. The dinner he cooked himself (no lie), and the movie was (of course) video of anti-Soviet fighting. We played cards (Poker and Fish), told jokes, arm wrestled, and recited poetry to each other. It was from Abdul, in fact, that I first learned to recite the traditional Pasthun landay (rhyming couplet) that goes like this: Your face is a rose, your eyes candles Faith, I am lost! Should I become a butterfly or a moth? Now he's gone. They're all gone, really -- the only ones who could deliver the Afghans from their present misery. Who else has anywhere near the stature these men had? Ismael Khan maybe, but he's probably too regional. Anyway, I keep holding the thought that societies usually end up producing exactly the leaders they need. So maybe there are others, unknown as yet, who will one day take the place of Massoud and Abdul Haq. Wow, I thought I was soooo cool about Afghanistan. I'd seen a lot of shit there, stuff that I didn't at the time think I was strong enough to see. I thought nothing about that country could shake me up anymore. But here I am, simply stunned. I have a hard time believing it's real."}, {"response": 687, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Oct 26, 2001 (20:25)", "body": "We all have a hard time believing it is real. Until the stuff starts hitting your neighbors or in your yard, it is somehow remote. In Hawaii, it seems like another planet. But, then, so does all of the rest of the world. War lite. Too bad they aren't all like that..."}, {"response": 688, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 26, 2001 (20:53)", "body": "That was very, very tough news for David, who knew these guys intimately from his years as a war correspondent in Afghanistan. He has been very obviously shaken by the death of these two leaders who were so critical to Afghanistans future. I can feel his despair and pain. An excerpt from an ABCnews.com report today gives the Afghanis a glimmer of hope for a peaceful future: D U S H A N B E, Tajikistan, Oct. 25 \ufffd Like so many children in Afghanistan, 13-year-old Ahmed Massoud lost his father in the fighting that has engulfed the country for more than 20 years. But Ahmed's loss was also a loss for the country. His father, Ahmed Shah Massoud, was a brilliant military leader who helped the Afghans throw out the Soviet invaders in the 1980s. For the last few years, he had led the Northern Alliance's military efforts against the repressive Taliban who control most of Afghanistan. Then \ufffd two days before the attacks on New York and Washington \ufffd Massoud was assassinated by suicide bombers posing as a television news crew. Northern Alliance officials believe the assassins were sent by Osama bin Laden to eliminate the Taliban's most formidable enemy. Although Massoud led a life of war, he was grooming his son to lead the Afghan people on a path he hoped would lead to peace. \"My father never talked to me about war,\" Ahmed told me shortly before his father's memorial service. \"He did not want me to follow a military education. He said that the world would be peaceful when I grow up, so I have to be ready for this peaceful world.\" Ahmed lives with his mother and four sisters in Tajikistan, safely away from the fighting in northern Afghanistan's Panjshir Valley. He is barely a teenager, but members of his father's anti-Taliban forces already treat him with incredible deference and respect. He is very quiet, but carries himself with the self-assurance of a grown man. When he met with us, he strode across the room to shake our hands, then calmly took his seat for the interview. His movements and his bearing are exactly like his father's. Meeting a Warrior I met Ahmed Shah Massoud a year ago when I traveled to northern Afghanistan, where he was nearly surrounded by the Taliban and fighting desperately to keep his supply lines open for the winter. To reach him in his mountainous headquarters, we first flew in an ancient Russian helicopter over the 18,000-foot peaks of the Hindu Kush range. We continued by pick-up truck over rough dirt roads, then crossed a river Afghan-style: on a raft of cow hides sewn together and inflated. The technique worked for the army of Alexander the Great, and it worked for us. It was hard to believe that these were the same people who had defeated the mighty Soviet military, but they were. Many believe it was because Massoud was a brilliant strategist whose guerilla tactics bled the Soviets for 10 years until they finally gave up and left. Massoud's battlefield success is legendary \ufffd and not lost on the Taliban commanders. Although no evidence has emerged of Taliban involvement in his assassination, many suspect they knew that to control all of Afghanistan they needed to take him out. more at http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/junger_feature.html"}, {"response": 689, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 27, 2001 (21:12)", "body": "*I've thought of worse suggestions...* This was forwarded to me by several people. A little ancient female wisdom in an otherwise-bleak situation... Take all American women who are within five years of menopause -- train us for a few weeks, outfit us with automatic weapons, grenades, gas masks, moisturizer with SPF15, Prozac, hormones, chocolate, and canned tuna -- drop us (parachuted, preferably) across the landscape of Afghanistan, and let us do what comes naturally. Think about it. Our anger quotient alone, even when doing standard stuff like grocery shopping and paying bills, is formidable enough to make even armed men in turbans tremble. We've had our children, we would gladly suffer or die to protect them and their future. We'd like to get away from our husbands, if they haven't left already. And for those of us who are single, the prospect of finding a good man with whom to share life is about as likely as being struck by lightning. We have nothing to lose. We've survived the water diet, the protein diet, the carbohydrate diet, and the grapefruit diet in gyms and saunas across America and never lost a pound. We can easily survive months in the hostile terrain of Afghanistan with no food at all! We've spent years tracking down our husbands or lovers in bars, hardware stores, or sporting events...finding bin Laden in some cave will be no problem. Uniting all the warring tribes of Afghanistan in a new government? Oh, please ... we've planned the seating arrangements for in-laws and extended families at Thanksgiving dinners for years ... we understand tribal warfare. Between us, we've divorced enough husbands to know every trick there is for how they hide, launder, or cover up bank accounts and money sources. We know how to find that money and we know how to seize it ... with or without the government's help! Let us go and fight. The Taliban hates women. Imagine their terror as we crawl like ants with hot-flashes over their godforsaken terrain. I'm going to write my Congresswoman. You should, too!"}, {"response": 690, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 28, 2001 (21:00)", "body": "An amazing story. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56956-2001Oct26.html You watching TV?\" Rick Rescorla was calling from the 44th floor of the World Trade Center, icy calm in the crisis. When Rescorla was a platoon leader in Vietnam, his men called him Hard Core, because they had never seen anyone so absurdly unflappable in the face of death. Now he was vice president for corporate security at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., and a jumbo jet had just plowed into the north tower. The voices of officialdom were crackling over the loudspeakers in the south tower, urging everyone to stay put: Please do not leave the building. This area is secure. Rescorla was ignoring them. \"The dumb sons of bitches told me not to evacuate,\" he said during a quick call to his best friend, Dan Hill, who had indeed been watching the disaster unfolding on TV. \"They said it's just Building One. I told them I'm getting my people the [expletive] out of here.\" Keep moving, Rescorla commanded over his megaphone while Hill listened. Keep moving. \"Typical Rescorla,\" Hill recalls. \"Incredible under fire.\" Morgan Stanley lost only six of its 2,700 employees in the south tower on Sept. 11, an isolated miracle amid the carnage. And company officials say Rescorla deserves most of the credit. He drew up the evacuation plan. He hustled his colleagues to safety. And then he apparently went back into the inferno to search for stragglers. He was the last man out of the south tower after the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, and no one seems to doubt that he would've been again last month if the skyscraper hadn't collapsed on him first. One of the company's secretaries actually snapped a photo of Rescorla with his megaphone that day, a 62-year-old mountain of a man coolly sacrificing his life for others. It was an epic death, one of those inspirational hero-tales that have sprouted like wildflowers from the Twin Towers rubble. But it turns out that retired Army Col. Cyril Richard Rescorla led an epic life as well. In this time when heroes are being proclaimed all around, when brave actions are understandably hailed as proofs of character, here was a man whose heroism was a matter of public record long before Sept. 11."}, {"response": 691, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sun, Oct 28, 2001 (22:22)", "body": "The New Yorker Magazine has put together a collection of links to all of the magazine's coverage of the attacks and the aftermath plus older relevant articles: http://www.newyorker.com/FROM_THE_ARCHIVE/PREVIOUS/"}, {"response": 692, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 28, 2001 (22:24)", "body": "Thanks Terry... I have chills just reading this account of Col. Rescorla. He personifies Hero in my book! There were many heroes that day..."}, {"response": 693, "author": "Moon", "date": "Mon, Oct 29, 2001 (07:34)", "body": "This is a something my son found and made me LOL! Enjoy this treat. http://www.madblast.com/binladen.htm"}, {"response": 694, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 29, 2001 (08:56)", "body": "October 29, 2001 U.S. 'guard down' due to anthrax attacks By Daniel F. Drummond THE WASHINGTON TIMES Terrorist groups are using anthrax attacks as a diversion and taking advantage of an overburdened law-enforcement system to plan more attacks on America, federal law-enforcement and intelligence sources say. The sources, all of whom are either working on or have close knowledge of the investigations of both the anthrax and Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, said that regardless of whether Osama bin Laden or the al Qaeda terrorist network are behind the anthrax attacks, they are taking advantage of the FBI and other law-enforcement agencies' dedication to solving and dealing with the anthrax attacks as well as hoaxes and scares. \"Our guard is down now because we are looking at mail,\" one intelligence source said. Indeed, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III told a group of the country's mayors that more than 7,000 of its 11,000 agents and support personnel are working on investigations relating to the Sept. 11 and anthrax attacks. \"There is just too much going on,\" an FBI source said, adding that agents are working on the investigations almost simultaneously by asking about both the anthrax and Sept. 11 attacks with those they question. \"We still have to deal with the hoaxes.\" More at: http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20011029-26230978.htm"}, {"response": 695, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Oct 29, 2001 (12:35)", "body": "I love the way the media is working with the enemy in their effort to \"keep us informed.\" I think, in the interests of America, they should to be a lot less headline grabbing. This is so tiresome, I have ceased to watch the news!!!"}, {"response": 696, "author": "winter", "date": "Mon, Oct 29, 2001 (21:23)", "body": "Ashcroft has given out a \"terrorist warning advisory\" to state, national and local agencies (see NYTimes) today. What's also tiresome is how little informed we are of the details of stories like this. Why? Why now? I've been thinking about the possibility of some sort of threat during Halloween. This is an awful thought...the worst of the worst-- but what about the possibility of our children being harmed? But why hasn't the media discussed any precautions parents might take (candy, trick-or-treating, etc)? I hate to give into paranoia... but I'm handing out stickers this year."}, {"response": 697, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Oct 30, 2001 (00:20)", "body": "here in the NY metro area, that is all that seemingly has been on the news- what to check for in candy, areas that should be avoided, etc. I think that it should be put on the national news... If I had kids, I'd be wary of having them go out at all, unless I were with them, and even then, I wouldn't be very comfortable. also heard that all proceeds from this year's UNICEF (those little boxes that kids have in their trick-or-treat bags to collect $), will go to the Afghan children... apparently this is unprecedented in that never has the entire collection gone to one single cause."}, {"response": 698, "author": "Moon", "date": "Tue, Oct 30, 2001 (07:20)", "body": "What's also tiresome is how little informed we are of the details of stories like this. I agree. It is not enought to warn us. They must give us whatever details they have."}, {"response": 699, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 30, 2001 (08:24)", "body": "They're probably not giving out too many details because it would tip off the terrorists that we know how to tap in to their communication channels. They're going to be offering \"candy\" in the form of false threats to see if we can intercept their messages over wire, the net, etc."}, {"response": 700, "author": "mari", "date": "Tue, Oct 30, 2001 (11:59)", "body": "They're not giving us details because they don't have them. What sparked this latest alert is an increase in the amount of \"noise\" among the terrorists communications networks, similar to what was observed immediately prior to September 11. The government is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't. IMO, they issue these warnings to us because, with law enforcement departments throughout the country being placed on high alert, word is bound to get out that something is afoot. If they don't issue a warning--albeit a general one--people would complain that they're covering up the info. So they issue the alert to the public, and the public complains it's not enough info. Believe me, I'm as frustrated as anyone, but the government has an incredibly difficult situation they're trying to deal with, and so I think we need to have a bit more patience and understanding and not be so quick to second guess."}, {"response": 701, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 30, 2001 (14:06)", "body": "Mari, I absolutely agree with you! I'd rather evacuate from 1,000 tsunami warnings than be drowned by one which was not issued to spare us the trauma. This goes for what we face now. Be safe and keep on doing what you were meant to do. Live your lives as best you can. Attend games and parties. If we don't we will die inside and they will have provided the means for this death. I am not willing to give up so easily! My son was just married. I am looking forward to the possibility of another little generation of people to inhabit a most wonderous world."}, {"response": 702, "author": "mari", "date": "Wed, Oct 31, 2001 (09:17)", "body": "Interesting piece from the New York Times: October 26, 2001 We Are All Alone By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Let me see if I've got this all straight now: Pakistan will allow us to use its bases Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays; provided we bomb only Taliban whose names begin with Omar and who don't have cousins in the Pakistani secret service. India is with us on Tuesdays and Fridays, provided it can shell Pakistani forces around Kashmir all other days. Egypt is with us on Sundays, provided we don't tell anyone and provided we never mention that we give the Egyptians $2 billion a year in aid. Yasir Arafat is with us only after 10 p.m. on weekdays, when Palestinians who have been dancing in the streets over the World Trade Center attack have gone to bed. The Northern Alliance is with us, provided we buy all its troops new sandals and give U.S. passports to the first 1,000 to reach Kabul. Israel is with us provided we never question the lunacy of 7,000 Israeli colonial settlers living in the middle of a million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. Kuwait would like to be with us, it really would, since we saved Kuwait from Iraq, but two Islamists in the Kuwaiti Parliament spoke out against the war, so the emir just doesn't want to take any chances. You understand. The Saudis, of course, want to be with us, but Saudis are not into war-fighting. That's for the household help. Don't worry. Prince Alwaleed has promised to rent us some Bangladeshi soldiers through a Saudi temp agency \u2014 at only a small markup. The Saudi ruling family would love to cooperate by handing over its police files on the 15 Saudis involved in the hijackings, but that would be a violation of its sovereignty, and, well, you know how much the Saudis respect sovereignty; like when the Saudi Embassy in Washington rushed all of Osama bin Laden's relatives out of America after Sept. 11 on a private Saudi jet, before they could be properly questioned by the F.B.I. And then there's my personal favorite: All our Arab-Muslim allies would love us to get bin Laden quickly, but the Muslim holy month of Ramadan is coming soon and the Muslim \"street\" will not tolerate fighting during Ramadan. Say, do you remember the 1973 Middle East war, launched by Egypt and Syria against Israel? Remember what that war was called in the Arab world? \"The Ramadan war\"; because that's when it was started. Oh, well. I guess the Arab world can launch wars on Ramadan, but not receive them. My fellow Americans, I hate to say this, but except for the good old Brits, we're all alone. And at the end of the day, it's U.S. and British troops who will have to go in, on the ground, and eliminate bin Laden. Ah, you ask, but why did we have so many allies in the gulf war against Iraq? Because the Saudis and Kuwaitis bought that alliance. They bought the Syrian Army with billions of dollars for Damascus. They bought us and the Europeans with promises of huge reconstruction contracts and by covering all our costs. Indeed, with the money Japan paid, we actually made a profit on the gulf war; Coalitions \"R\" Us. This time we'll have to pay our own way, and for others. Unfortunately, killing 5,000 innocent Americans in New York just doesn't get the rest of the world that exercised. In part we're to blame. The unilateralist message the Bush team sent from its first day in office: get rid of the Kyoto climate treaty, forget the biological treaty, forget arms control, and if the world doesn't like it that's tough; has now come back to haunt us. And who can blame other countries for wanting to shake down U.S. taxpayers when Dick Armey and his greedy band of House Republicans are doing the same thing; pushing a stimulus bill with more tax breaks for the rich, lobbyists and corporations, and virtually nothing for the working Americans who will fight this war? My advice: Try not to focus on any of this. Focus instead on the firemen who rushed into the trade center towers without asking, \"How much?\" Focus on the thousands of U.S. reservists who have left their jobs and families to go fight in Afghanistan without asking, \"What's in it for me?\" Unlike the free-riders in our coalition, these young Americans know that Sept. 11 is our holy day; the first day in a just war to preserve our free, multi-religious, democratic society. And I don't really care if that war coincides with Ramadan, Christmas, Hanukkah or the Buddha's birthday; the most respectful and spiritual thing we can do now is fight it until justice is done."}, {"response": 703, "author": "Moon", "date": "Thu, Nov 1, 2001 (12:02)", "body": "The Italians have also committed to send troups. It was reported on Italian Rai TV news that 10 American soldiers have been captured in A. Has it been reported here? Also in Italy, a Muslim has been found living in a metal container with computer and maps of all Italian airports and Canadian airports. He is in custody and the FBI is on its way."}, {"response": 704, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 1, 2001 (14:18)", "body": "Nothing on the capture on ABC or CNN's websites. And nothing about the Muslim living in the dumpster."}, {"response": 705, "author": "mari", "date": "Thu, Nov 1, 2001 (14:58)", "body": "White House says capture story is completely false."}, {"response": 706, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 1, 2001 (20:34)", "body": "And more comments from David Kline: Wow, today's NY Times also has an excellent piece on \"Afghan Art Dispersed by the Winds of War.\" http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/01/arts/design/01PILL.html I may have mentioned before how wonderful and unique Afghan art is, and how proud Afghans have always been of it (a further indication that the Taliban are completely alien to traditional Afghan culture and tradition). Anyway, my movie script -- a love story set against the Afghan war -- also centers around a plot to steal precious Afghan art. I sold the script 10 years ago (to Tom Selleck of all people), but when the Gulf War broke out he decided not to make the movie. So the rights reverted back to me. I'm thinking about resurrecting this script and trying again -- one thing's for sure, I'd be the first up to the plate with an Afghan script. Anyone know any agents or producers to steer me to?"}, {"response": 707, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 1, 2001 (22:06)", "body": "The atrocities inflicted on the antiquites of Afghanistan were reported in Geo - archeologist world-wide are outraged. Little did they know that these people are willing to kill of the whole specied to their eternal glory."}, {"response": 708, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Tue, Nov 6, 2001 (16:13)", "body": "Twenty-six-year-old Palestinian-American poet and political activist Suheir Hammad has published a book of poems, BORN PALESTINIAN, BORN BLACK, and a memoir, DROPS OF THIS STORY, and is prominently featured in LISTEN UP! AN ANTHOLOGY OF SPOKEN WORK POETRY. Recipient of the Audre Lourde Writing Award from Hunter College, the Morris Center for Healing Poetry Award, and a New York Mills Artist Residency in Minnesota, Hammad is a frequent reader at New York reading venues, including numerous radio appearances, and has performed with The All That Band and Rhythms of Aqua. She has produced a documentary film, HALF A LIFETIME, and is writing a film entitled FROM BEIRUT TO BROOKLYN, based on her memoir. Naomi Shihab Nye has called Hammad's work \"a brave flag over the dispossessed.\" First Writing Since 1. there have been no words. i have not written one word. no poetry in the ashes south of canal street. no prose in the refrigerated trucks driving debris and dna. not one word. today is a week, and seven is of heavens, gods, science. evident out my kitchen window is an abstract reality. sky where once was steel. smoke where once was flesh. fire in the city air and i feared for my sister's life in a way never before. and then, and now, i fear for the rest of us. first, please god, let it be a mistake, the pilot's heart failed, the plane's engine died. then please god, let it be a nightmare, wake me now. please god, after the second plane, please, don't let it be anyone who looks like my brothers. i do not know how bad a life has to break in order to kill. i have never been so hungry that i willed hunger i have never been so angry as to want to control a gun over a pen. not really. even as a woman, as a palestinian, as a broken human being. never this broken. more than ever, i believe there is no difference. the most privileged nation, most americans do not know the difference between indians, afghanis, syrians, muslims, sikhs, hindus. more than ever, there is no difference. 2. thank you korea for kimchi and bibim bob, and corn tea and the genteel smiles of the wait staff at wonjo the smiles never revealing the heat of the food or how tired they must be working long midtown shifts. thank you korea, for the belly craving that brought me into the city late the night before and diverted my daily train ride into the world trade center. there are plenty of thank yous in ny right now. thank you for my lazy procrastinating late ass. thank you to the germs that had me call in sick. thank you, my attitude, you had me fired the week before. thank you for the train that never came, the rude nyer who stole my cab going downtown. thank you for the sense my mama gave me to run. thank you for my legs, my eyes, my life. 3. the dead are called lost and their families hold up shaky printouts in front of us through screens smoked up. we are looking for iris, mother of three. please call with any information. we are searching for priti, last seen on the 103rd floor. she was talking to her husband on the phone and the line went. please help us find george, also known as adel. his family is waiting for him with his favorite meal. i am looking for my son, who was delivering coffee. i am looking for my sister girl, she started her job on monday. i am looking for peace. i am looking for mercy. i am looking for evidence of compassion. any evidence of life. i am looking for life. 4. ricardo on the radio said in his accent thick as yuca, \"i will feel so much better when the first bombs drop over there. and my friends feel the same way.\" on my block, a woman was crying in a car parked and stranded in hurt. i offered comfort, extended a hand she did not see before she said, \"we're gonna burn them so bad, i swear, so bad.\" my hand went to my head and my head went to the numbers within it of the dead iraqi children, the dead in nicaragua. the dead in rwanda who had to vie with fake sport wrestling for america's attention. yet when people sent emails saying, this was bound to happen, lets not forget u.s. transgressions, for half a second i felt resentful. hold up with that, cause i live here, these are my friends and fam, and it could have been me in those buildings, and we're not bad people, do not support america's bullying. can i just have a half second to feel bad? if i can find through this exhaust people who were left behind to mourn and to resist mass murder, i might be alright. thank you to the woman who saw me brinking my cool and blinking back tears. she opened her arms before she asked \"do you want a hug?\" a big white woman, and her embrace was the kind only people with the warmth of flesh can offer. i wasn't about to say no to any comfort. \"my brother's in the navy,\" i said. \"and we\"re arabs.\"\"wow, you got double trouble.\" word. 5. one more person ask me if i knew the hijackers. one more motherfucker ask me what navy my brother is in. one more person assume no arabs or muslims were killed. one more person assume they know me, or that i rep"}, {"response": 709, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 6, 2001 (19:43)", "body": "I have known a young geology student in Islamabad for several years. My heart aches for him now. He worries about me. I am far from harm's way, and he is just starting out on life and the study of how precious and special this planet really is. This is incredibly sad, especially when it beomes highly personal."}, {"response": 710, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 6, 2001 (21:42)", "body": "A friend, Koti, sent me this today. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Nov 6 21:26:30 2001 Date: 06 Nov 2001 21:26:30 -0600 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 1005103590 0000000000 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. From terry@www.spring.net Tue Nov 6 17:12:54 2001 -0600 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: Return-Path: Received: from localhost (koti@localhost) by www.spring.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fA6NCpA52010; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:12:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from koti@spring.net) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:12:50 -0600 (CST) From: Koti Nandipati To: gdegamo@lucent.com cc: wayne.branagh@motorola.com, terry@spring.net Subject: Hijackers' Meticulous Strategy of Brains, Muscle and Practice (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NY Times article detailing the sept 11th event execution...--koti Hijackers' Meticulous Strategy of Brains, Muscle and Practice November 4, 2001 By DON VAN NATTA Jr. and KATE ZERNIKE American Airlines Flight 11 was in line for takeoff from Logan International Airport, the passengers already reminded to turn off personal electronic devices, when Mohamed Atta, in seat 8D in business class, dialed his cellphone for the last time. The call rang aboard another sparsely occupied jetliner a bit farther back on the same tarmac, on a cellphone belonging to Marwan al- Shehhi, in seat 6C on United Airlines Flight 175. The conversation between the two men, so close that they called each other cousin, lasted less than one minute - just long enough, investigators say, to signal that the plot was on. That simple communication was the culmination of months of meticulous planning and coordination that by 10 o'clock on the morning of Sept. 11 would become the worst terrorist attack in history. With all the suspects dead and no conclusive evidence, as yet, of any accomplices, investigators have been left to recreate the architecture and orchestration of the plot largely from the recorded minutiae of the hijackers' brief American lives: their cellphone calls, credit card charges, Internet communications and automated teller machine withdrawals. What has emerged, nearly two months into the investigation, is a picture in which the roles of the 19 hijackers are so well defined as to be almost corporate in their organization and coordination. Investigators now divide the 19 into three distinct groups: Mr. Atta, considered the mastermind, and three other leaders who chose the dates for the attack and flew the planes; a support staff of three who helped with the logistics of renting apartments, securing driver's licenses and distributing cash to the teams that would take the four planes; and beneath them, 12 soldiers, or \"muscle,\" whose main responsibility seems to have been restraining the flight attendants and passengers while the leaders took over the jets' controls. The leaders had researched their plans so well that they knew just when each of the four cross-country flights would reach its cruising altitude - the moment, investigators say, when the hijackers stormed the cockpits to confront the pilots with box cutters. The coordination was so thorough that each of the four hijacking teams had its own bank account, and each team's A.T.M. cards used a single PIN. The slightest misstep could trigger intense frustration: more than once last summer in Florida, when money transfers from abroad had not arrived on the expected dates, security cameras captured several hijackers glaring impatiently into A.T.M. screens. The hijackers made a true technophile's use of the Internet, online chat rooms and e-mail. But when it came to their most crucial communications, they did what Al Qaeda's manual on terrorist operations instructs: they met in person. They chose as their meeting place the same locale where generations of American conventioneers have met to exchange information about their crafts: Las Vegas, where investigators say the most crucial planning in the United States occurred. But unlike traditional conventioneers who cluster in casino hotels that replicate the Pyramids or the New York City skyline, the leaders and their logistics men stayed at the seediest end of the famous Las Vegas Strip, next to the \"Home of the $5 Lap Dance,\" at a cheap motel guaranteed not to have surveillance cameras. They stayed briefly, only as long as it took to exchange important information, and apparently did not visit the casinos or any of the other purveyors of easy vice in America's City of Sin. Most of the 19 hijackers, perhaps all of them, spent time in Osama bin Laden's Afghan training camps, investigators now say. Some of the Sept. 11 soldiers appear to have met there. And like Mr. Atta and the other pi"}, {"response": 711, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 9, 2001 (09:38)", "body": "Al Qaeda Takes Cues From Asimov? The Ansible ( http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/SF-Archives/Ansible/a172.html ) and Locus Online ( http://www.locusmag.com/2001/News/News11Log.html ) Web sites both reported on the rumor of a possible connection between Al Qaeda, the Islamic terrorist network purportedly masterminded by Osama bin Laden, and, of all things, Isaac Asimov's classic SF novel Foundation, the first in his well-known series of the same name. Ansible quoted SF writer China Mi\ufffdville--author of King Rat, Perdido Street Station and Macmillan's upcoming The Scar--as saying, \"My supervisor, an expert in the Middle East, told me about a rumor circulating about the name of bin Laden's network. The term al qaeda seems to have no political precedent in Arabic, and has therefore been something of a conundrum to the experts, until someone pointed out that a very popular book in the Arab world--Arabs apparently being big readers of translated SF--is Asimov's Foundation, the title of which is translated as Al Qaeda. Unlikely as it sounds, this is the only theory anyone can come up with.\" At least one post on a Russian message board ( http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/5491-4.cfm ) speculated that bin Laden might be taking cues from Asimov's book, about an uprising against a Galactic Empire led by a single-minded revolutionary and his band of fighters against overwhelming military odds, Locus reported. For the record, the PBS Frontline Web site reported that al qaeda is \"an Arabic word meaning 'the base.'"}, {"response": 712, "author": "pmnh", "date": "Fri, Nov 9, 2001 (10:07)", "body": "...and asimov was jewish bin laden's form of fundamentalism is remarkably malleable, when he wants it to be"}, {"response": 713, "author": "Moon", "date": "Sat, Nov 10, 2001 (13:48)", "body": "FBI: Sender of anthrax letters a guy, a loner Saturday Nov. 10 By Chris Mondics and James Kuhnhenn Knight Ridder Newspapers WASHINGTON -- FBI officials said Friday that they believe the person who mailed several anthrax-filled letters is probably a U.S.-based male loner with a scientific bent, possibly like Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, whose letter bombs mystified law enforcement for nearly two decades. Federal officials have been speculating for weeks that the anthrax attacks were not connected to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, but the FBI's announcement Friday was the strongest endorsement yet of that theory. Even so, FBI officials said they had not ruled out the possibility that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network is behind the anthrax attacks. But they said the wording of the three known anthrax-laced letters suggests a domestic source. \"We are not ruling anything out, but we are certainly looking in that direction,\" said one FBI official, who spoke to reporters on condition that he not be identified. The officials hope the public will help identify the culprit. In related developments, traces of anthrax spores were found in four more central New Jersey post offices, President Bush boosted the National Guard presence at the nation's airports, and top administration officials offered assurances that security measures taken since Sept. 11 have made the nation safer. Whoever sent the letters \"did not select his victims randomly,\" the FBI source said. Based on analysis of the handwriting on the letters, they said the anthrax attacker likely was nursing a grudge and probably had a high degree of technical training. The officials believe, too, that he decided to increase the potency of the anthrax he put into the letters as one attack led to another. So far, four people have died after inhaling anthrax spores, and 13 more got sick from anthrax exposure. The officials said that they could detect no political agenda from the letters and their sender's known actions. Each of the three known letters were photocopies, not originals, likely used to help him evade pursuers. The FBI profile of the likely anthrax attacker suggests that he probably avoids public situations. If he has a job, they said, it likely does not involve contact with many people. They suspect he underwent a significant behavioral change as the letters went out, becoming focused on his mission to spread terror, and might have struck acquaintances as increasingly remote. FBI officials said they doubt the letters were sent by Middle Eastern terrorists because they do not resemble other such letters sent in the past. One official said that such letters typically include some Arabic text, but these do not. The FBI's new profile of the likely anthrax-attacker doesn't bring them any closer to solving the case. Law enforcement authorities spent nearly two decades trying to capture the Unabomber and did not succeed until Ted Kaczynski's brother turned him in. The FBI appealed openly to the public to help them identify possible suspects, knowing they probably will have to rely on an informant to finger the person responsible. In a potential break in the hunt for the suspect, anthrax tests detected traces of the bacteria in four more post offices in central New Jersey, authorities said Friday. The small satellite offices all feed a regional processing center that handled three tainted letters sent to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle's office in Washington and to the New York offices of NBC and the New York Post. The new evidence could help narrow down possible sites from where the letters were sent. Meanwhile, the Bush administration sought to reassure an anxious public that it was safeguarding the nation's airports, mail system and water supplies against new terrorist attacks. President Bush announced a 25 percent increase in the number of National Guard troops assigned to protect airports during the busy holiday season. The increase, effective immediately, will boost by 2,000 the 6,000 guard troops that already have been stationed at airports since the Sept. 11 suicide hijackings. \"These are temporary measures and we believe they will help a lot,\" Bush said. With no new reports of anthrax infections, Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge expressed hope that the threat of anthrax was subsiding. His optimism came as two postal workers who had been treated for the often fatal inhalation form of the disease were released from their hospital beds and sent home. \"We're prayerful, we're hopeful, we hope that this is the last we ever see and have to deal with it,\" Ridge said. Meanwhile, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Christie Todd Whitman said her agency was working closely with water companies and other federal agencies to protect drinking water from contamination. \"The good news here, if there is good news, is that it takes more than a teaspoon or a cupful of a biological or chemical agent to disrupt a water supply and to jeopardize or threaten the"}, {"response": 714, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 12, 2001 (14:52)", "body": "Another plane crash today. Anyone heard any news on this?"}, {"response": 715, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (10:01)", "body": "Kabul. Northern Alliance troops have taken control of Kabul amid scenes of chaos and jubilation. In a dramatic overnight advance, Northern Alliance units entered the Afghan capital after Taleban fighters fled towards their southern stronghold, Kandahar. Troops were backed by rockets and US bombing There was a vacuum of authority in the city after the Taleban withdrew, with reports of looting, but the BBC's William Reeve says the atmosphere is now less tense. Taleban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar is reported to have urged his troops to regroup and fight. He is quoted by the Pakistan-based Afghan Islamic Press as telling his men to obey their commanders and not to desert. Some Arab volunteers serving with the Taleban were summarily shot and a BBC camera crew was attacked as opposition troops entered Kabul. from the BBC.co.uk website."}, {"response": 716, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (16:03)", "body": "Yup, watched the sorry structural failure that caused the small community of Rockaway even more pain. I they buried 12 members of their community with the WTC disaster. This is truly tragic. Yup, an American is sick enough to have created an atmosphere scary enough to cause 32,000 of his fellow citizens to take antibioitcs and kill a few others. There is really not a punishment which fits this crime. I'd make it as slow and as painful as possible. I am throroughly disgusted with apologists and terorists making excuses for why WE deserve to die. Time for payback !"}, {"response": 717, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (05:48)", "body": "On NPR this morning they were discussing the formation of a \"tribunal for terrrorists, something usually reserved for overseas cases, but now being positioned for domestic used. The Bush administration is faced with the scary thought of a Court system that might result in, say, a hung jury for a Bin Laden. I'll look for details on the web today, it's early and I haven't been to the news web sites yet. Meanwhile, there is music in the streets of Afghanistan. I had a fantasy about a bunch of rock musicians going there and throwing a big, free Woodstock sytle concert for the Afghan people. I fantasized this while I was cleaning the garage."}, {"response": 718, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (05:55)", "body": "David Kline's thoughts on the Taliban and freeing of Kabul. And no laughter in public. Until yesterday, if the religious police (who all carry plastic foot-long whips) caught you on a street in Kabul laughing at a friend's joke, you would be whipped. They also patrolled the soccer stadium during games -- yes the same stadium where public executions were held -- and if they saw fans applauding or rooting too hard for their team, they would be whipped. No public display of humanity was allowed. These people are so much worse than backward, I can't find the proper words to describe them. Their leaders and top cadre must all be killed. Period. . . . let's not get too excited about a few executions and a certain amount of disorder. This isn't the new Mayor of New York being sworn in here -- these are tribal people who've lived with nothing but savage war for 25 years. A few reprisals is to be expected. But I'll bet anything that it will be limited, and that order and a broad-based transition regime will be put in place soon. There's too much at stake. And this time the world is watching, acting as a stabilizing influence. Since my first post here on 9/12 or so, I have argued that the only way to oust the Taliban is to help and assist the Northern Alliance and other forces take the initiative. This is now what's happening. Seven days ago when some here wondered whether NA forces were too timid to fight -- \"We don't like to train in the rain,\" said one commander -- I urged people not to underestimate them. They may not be the smartest fighters around, but they're surely the toughest. And it's true, they've taken a good number of casualties and plunged ahead with American help. I now worry a little about the Taliban's sudden withdrawal from Kabul. It is such an Afghan move -- Massoud invented and used it 7 times to butcher Soviet armored columns trying to move into his Pansjir Valley redoubt. Could they be laying a suck 'em in and then envelope 'em scheme? We'll soon see. But now with the Herat-Kabul line established and the Taliban apparently retreating to their last-stand defense perimeter, my guess (today) is that two things are going to happen: 1) Pashtun (not Arab) Taliban commanders in the south will begin putting out defection feelers. Leaders to replace Abdul Haq will emerge. 2) The fighting is going to get a lot more bloody because these fucking Arabs really can't wait to die and we can't wait to help them die. Unless, miracle of miracles, the Taliban simply collapses and they head for the border. We better have a brigade and every Pashtun speaking agent we have standing at that Quetta border. They should look for a \"woman\" in burqa sitting atop a horse-drawn wagon (to conceal \"her\" true height) trying to mosey on through the border."}, {"response": 719, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (06:01)", "body": "Kline: . . . it's a very smart move to leave some open leeway for fleeing Taliban forces. Because the point is to encourage defections -- which are now going to begin en masse, you can be sure -- and thereby separate the Arab from the Pashtun Taliban. That could bring a swift collapse of the regime. Or, if the Arab legions head for the hills to try and wage guerrilla warfare against a post Taliban authority, then the most effective way to root them out will be to send people after them who are a) even tougher than the Arabs; and b) know the mountains even better than the Arabs. IOTW, the Pashtun Afghans who grew up in those damn mountains. Watch for defections increasing by the day. Because the tide has turned. (Unless the retreat from Kabul really is some sort of suck-em-in trap.)"}, {"response": 720, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (06:03)", "body": "http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24744-2001Nov13.html \"Bush said the tribunals are needed because \"mass deaths, mass injuries and massive destruction of property\" from future terrorism could \"place at risk the continuity of the operations of the United States government.\" It is \"not practicable,\" he said, to require the tribunals to abide by the \"principles of law and the rules of evidence\" that govern U.S. criminal prosecutions. .... Bush's order promises \"a full and fair trial\" and access to lawyers, but there is no provision for an appeal to U.S. civil courts or international tribunals. Only Bush or the secretary of defense, if the president so chooses, will have the authority to overturn a decision. .... The order says defendants could include past or present members of al Qaeda or anyone involved in acts of international terrorism intended to have \"adverse effects on the United States, its citizens, national security or economy.\" It also targets anyone who has \"knowingly harbored\" such terrorists.\""}, {"response": 721, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (09:49)", "body": "my guess (today) is that two things are going to happen: 2) The fighting is going to get a lot more bloody because these fucking Arabs really can't wait to die and we can't wait to help them die. All I can say is bring it on... #2 is a great line."}, {"response": 722, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (14:23)", "body": "I find that statement frightening. How does one deal with people who WANT to die?? I was most delighted last night to watch the enforced beards being shaved off men. I had hoped to see a liberated woman or two, but that did not happe. We are far from done with this war. Rob mentioned to me that geologists had studied OBL's most recent movies and determined that he was not in Afghanistan. The rock forming his cave were not the kind found in Afghanistan. That had not occurred to me!"}, {"response": 723, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (18:53)", "body": "New York Times November 14, 2001 Bush to Subject Terrorism Suspects to Military Trials By ELISABETH BUMILLER and DAVID JOHNSTON ASHINGTON, Nov. 13 \ufffd President Bush signed an order today allowing special military tribunals to try foreigners charged with terrorism. A senior administration official said that any such trials would \"not necessarily\" be public and that the American tribunals might operate in Pakistan and Afghanistan. At the same time, the Justice Department has asked law enforcement authorities across the country to pick up and question 5,000 men, most from Middle Eastern countries, who entered the country legally in the last two years. Both actions are part of a sweeping government effort to expand the investigation into Al Qaeda's network and clear the way for the more aggressive prosecution of anyone charged with terrorism. Mr. Bush signed the order allowing for the military tribunals shortly before leaving this afternoon for his ranch in Crawford, Tex. White House officials said the order did not create a military tribunal or a list of terrorists to be tried. Instead, they said, it was an \"option\" that the president would have should Osama bin Laden or his associates in Al Qaeda be captured. If the tribunals were created, it would be the first time since World War II that such an approach was used, officials said. Under the order, the president himself is to determine who is an accused terrorist and therefore subject to trial by the tribunal. The order states that the president may \"determine from time to time in writing that there is reason to believe\" that an individual is a member of Al Qaeda, has engaged in acts of international terrorism or has \"knowingly harbored\" a terrorist. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/14/national/14DETA.html ================================================================================ Wednesday November 14 01:13 PM EST Some Warn of Too Much Police Power By Oliver Libaw ABCNEWS.com After Sept. 11, are police getting too much power? Secret property searches, detaining individuals without charges, jailing people on secret evidence, even military tribunals - such powers may seem far-fetched, but law enforcement agencies have them, and are using them to press their campaign against terror. The Patriot Act, as the sweeping anti-terrorism legislation recently signed into law is officially known, is part of an unprecedented effort to catch those responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks \ufffd the worst acts of terrorism ever \ufffd and prevent future assaults. President Bush added to those powers Tuesday, signing an executive order that allows suspected high-level terrorists to be tried in greater secrecy by the military. The enforcement measures have provoked a wide-ranging debate about how to safeguard civil liberties without overly constraining investigators, but many civil liberties advocates say the government has gone too far. Secret Evidence Some point to what they say are problems with earlier anti-terror laws as proof the system may be abused, especially by holding people on secret evidence. This week, the federal government appealed a lower court ruling concerning the power to hold immigrants for long periods based only on such evidence. The case involves Mazen Al-Najjar, a Palestinian professor at the University of South Florida, who was held by the Immigration and Naturalization Service for more than three years based on evidence that was never shown to him or his attorney. A federal judge in Miami had found that Al-Najjar's rights were violated. Al-Najjar had lived in the United States for 20 years and headed a charity that officials suspected was a front for a Palestinian terrorist group, but the exact allegations and evidence against him have not been revealed. Al-Najjar, who was never charged with a crime, was released in December 2000. His case is one of some two dozen in which immigrants have been held for months or years based entirely on secret evidence, but were never prosecuted. \"If these folks were such serious threats, why weren't they prosecuted criminally?\" asks Susan Akram, a Boston University law professor who represents another secret evidence detainee, Anwar Haddam. The Dangers of Expanded Power Expanding government agencies' surveillance powers is also dangerous, says David Kairys, a constitutional rights lawyer and professor at Temple University in Philadelphia. \"It's easily open to abuse,\" he says, pointing to problems in the past, such as the so-called Palmer Raids carried out by President Woodrow Wilson's attorney general in the early 1900s. Between 1918 and 1921, A. Mitchell Palmer pursued and smashed union offices and Communist and Socialist Party headquarters, spurred on by growing fears of radical foreign agents. In 1919, he seized more than 200 resident aliens believed to have radical political views and put them on a ship bound for the Soviet Union. The FBI also famously pursued Martin Luther King Jr. as a national security threat in the '50s"}, {"response": 724, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (19:06)", "body": "Tracking bin Laden: Still a lot of caves to hide in Nov. 14, 2001, 4:58PM By SALLY BUZBEE Associated Press WASHINGTON -- The United States is pursuing Osama bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, believed to be on the move in the shrinking but still difficult parts of Afghanistan that their forces control. Sharpening the focus on the war's primary targets, American special operations troops are questioning Taliban defectors and prisoners, dangling millions in reward money and hoping for a communications slip-up. Warplanes focus more bombing on mountain hide-outs and caves where Omar or bin Laden might try to disappear. The two men, both expert in guerrilla warfare, have plenty of those remote caves and mountain tunnels -- and enough friends and supplies along the Pakistani border -- to make the chase difficult. \"We still have a ways to go\" in tracking them, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld cautioned today. U.S. intelligence officials believe bin Laden and Omar are still in the region of Afghanistan not under northern alliance control, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity. Each is moving around, but they aren't believed to be together. It isn't thought likely that bin Laden will try to leave the country, because such movements could expose him to capture. A Taliban official said today that Omar and his \"guest\" bin Laden were \"safe and well.\" Omar claimed in a radio address Tuesday that he was in the Taliban's southern stronghold of Kandahar, the site Wednesday of sporadic fighting between Taliban and rebel Pashtun leaders. The United States is bombing areas in the south and in the east, especially around Jalalabad, where bin Laden is known to have hide-outs. \"Bunker-buster\" bombs can dig under the surface and explode in a tunnel. Fuel-air explosives can produce tremendous heat and suck out a cave or tunnel's oxygen. Defectors and prisoners are probably the best hope for information on where bin Laden is now, said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with experience in South Asia. Even rumors or hints -- about something such as a recent supply run to a cave, for example -- could prove a breakthrough. In addition, \"It may very well be that money will talk at some point,\" Rumsfeld said, referring to the millions in reward money the United States has offered. Or, Taliban troops and commanders on the run might take fewer precautions with radios and phones, allowing U.S. eavesdropping aircraft to pick up communications and thus get hints to bin Laden's location. U.S. special forces also have been watching roads in southern Afghanistan to see who passes by, Rumsfeld said, and \"to stop people that they think ought to be stopped.\" Bin Laden is believed to move from cave to cave -- some a three days' walk into the mountains -- with only a group of highly trusted aides. The amount of support he can still muster among thousands of past supporters is key. The Taliban may fracture, with some commanders deciding to become guerrilla fighters in mountainous southern Afghanistan, and others making peace with the Pashtun leaders now taking power, said another U.S. official. Afghan fighters have a history of retreating from cities but then waging effective guerrilla warfare in mountains for years afterward, essentially thwarting an enemy's larger goals, said Charles Fairbanks, a central Asia expert at Johns Hopkins University. \"Particularly if they fled to the east, that's a very difficult situation,\" Fairbanks said. \"They have so many sympathizers in Pakistan, and Pakistan really has no control of the situation there.\" Such supporters could keep bin Laden and Omar supplied with food, guns and hiding places, said Andrew Hess, an expert on Pakistan and Afghanistan at Tufts University. In addition, the former guerrilla leader who took control of Jalalabad from the Taliban, Mullah Yunus Khalis, has long-standing ties with bin Laden's Arab followers. Bin Laden is believed to have camps in the mountains near there. Most U.S. officials and outside experts do not think Omar would ever give bin Laden up, despite what Rumsfeld called signs of strain between the two. In his most recent interview, bin Laden said he was \"ready to die.\" Chillingly, he predicted the war against America would continue even if he were gone. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/terror/front/1133127"}, {"response": 725, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (20:21)", "body": "NPR talked about music in the streets of Kabul today, and the women are liberated, yet they still completely shroud themselves in clothing."}, {"response": 726, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (20:36)", "body": "David Kline (dkline) Wed Nov 14 '01 (09:54) 43 lines The number of reprisals is unbelievably limited by historic Afghan standards. I am convinced the Northern Alliance intends to do things right this time, and to unite democratically with the southern Pashtun tribes. Pashtun tribes, by the way, who at this moment are rising up spontaneously to fight the Taliban with no leadership other than village elders to guide them. These unorganized Pashtun farmers have already seized the Kandahar airport to prepare the way for U.S. and Northern Alliance activity. And now a more personal note: We have all of us discussed and learned a lot in the past two months, especially in the last month since the war in Afghanistan began. Just two weeks ago many were thinking these Northern Alliance warlords are too timid to fight, that no one supported them, and that surely the Taliban had to have mass public support else they wouldn't be in power, right? I am so grateful to have been able to have these discussions with you because it brought up a deep and long-buried sympatico I feel for the only people I met in my round-the-world travels whom I ever completely loved and admired (despite all their screwy fractiousness). Most anyone who has ever been to Afghanistan feels the same way. Remember how I said from Day 1 that the Taliban are NOT the Afghans? In Kabul today, the NY Times reports a man standing atop a building waving in the air one of those foot-long plastic whips used to beat women -- and crowds cheering him in joy. Burqas are being tossed. Kites are flying. And music -- remember I described how the mujahadeen once outfitted a captured Soviet tank with tape deck and speakers? -- music is playing again! Anyway, I want to say thank you all so much for bearing with my sometimes arrogant certainty of victory for the Afghans. And for sympathizing with me in such a gentle and compassionate way the loss of my friend Abdul Haq. And especially for being not only deeply interested in a little-known people half a world away but also for being absolutely the smartest and most insightful group of people that I have ever \"spoken\" with. The battle is finally being won. Afghanistan will be liberated at last! I can't even describe how happy I am, and how much it meant to me to be able to share all this with you. Thank you all."}, {"response": 727, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (20:37)", "body": "An awesome statement by one of the most insightful commentators on Afghan Life, thanks David Klein."}, {"response": 728, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (20:39)", "body": "David Klein: To me, the next big challenge is how to slowly win the trust of the broad masses of Muslims worldwide and isolate the extremists who serve as recruiting ground for the Bin Ladens of this world. We've got to: 1) Apologize for Mossadegh and the Shah of Iran 2) Pledge henceforth our support of democratic reform in Muslim nations ruled by elites 3) Break legs if we have to in order to cool down or even hopefully solve the Palestinian question 4) Offer massive economic aid to Pakistan and other key Muslim states facing fundamentalist threats 5) And finally, in a televised address to the whole world, announce that we want to work with Muslims of good faith everywhere to solve our mutual problems That's how you end the scourge of Islamic terrorism, and not simply snuff Al-Queda. I don't imagine the US will take all the above steps immediately, but we humans are pretty adaptive -- we'll learn eventually that if we want to end terrorism that's what we'll need to do."}, {"response": 729, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Nov 15, 2001 (02:11)", "body": "Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA) November 13, 2001 Appeal to the UN and World community The people of Afghanistan do not accept domination of the Northern Alliance! Now it is confirmed that the Taliban have left Kabul and the Northern Alliance has entered the city. The world should understand that the Northern Alliance is composed of some bands who did show their real criminal and inhuman nature when they were ruling Afghanistan from 1992 to 1996. The retreat of the terrorist Taliban from Kabul is a positive development, but entering of the rapist and looter NA in the city is nothing but a dreadful and shocking news for about 2 million residents of Kabul whose wounds of the years 1992-96 have not healed yet. Thousands of people who fled Kabul during the past two months were saying that they feared coming to power of the NA in Kabul much more than being scared by the US bombing. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda will be eliminated, but the existence of the NA as a military force would shatter the joyful dream of the majority for an Afghanistan free from the odious chains of barbaric Taliban. The NA will horribly intensify the ethnic and religious conflicts and will never refrain to fan the fire of another brutal and endless civil war in order to retain in power. The terrible news of looting and inhuman massacre of the captured Taliban or their foreign accomplices in Mazar-e-Sharif in past few days speaks for itself. Though the NA has learned how to pose sometimes before the West as \"democratic\" and even supporter of women's rights, but in fact they have not at all changed, as a leopard cannot change its spots. RAWA has already documented heinous crimes of the NA. Time is running out. RAWA on its own part appeals to the UN and world community as a whole to pay urgent and considerable heed to the recent developments in our ill-fated Afghanistan before it is too late. We would like to emphatically ask the UN to send its effective peace-keeping force into the country before the NA can repeat the unforgettable crimes they committed in the said years. The UN should withdraw its recognition to the so-called Islamic government headed by Rabbani and help the establishment of a broad-based government based on the democratic values. RAWA's call stems from the aspirations of the vast majority of the people of Afghanistan. http://rawa.fancymarketing.net/na-appeal.htm RAWA Main Page: http://rawa.fancymarketing.net/index.html RAWA documents and statements: http://rawa.fancymarketing.net/documents.htm"}, {"response": 730, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 15, 2001 (06:12)", "body": "I was just musing, in my early waking hours this morning, about how great it would be if there were on outpouring of love for Afghanis from America and the world, the country can grow and prosper now that the evil regime is on the run. The job is far from finished, but the pieces have started to fall in place."}, {"response": 731, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 15, 2001 (07:12)", "body": "The story of how the eight religious aid workers were released by the Taliban, plucked from a field near Ghazni by a local Pashtun commander and the Red Cross, and flown by US helicopter to a Pakistani air base is going to be quite the blockbuster. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/15/international/asia/15WORK.html"}, {"response": 732, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Thu, Nov 15, 2001 (15:09)", "body": "By Molly Moore Washington Post Foreign Service Thursday, November 15, 2001; 1:08 PM Excerpt: The German workers today provided dramatic details of their escape, while the two American women, Heather Mercer, who grew up in Vienna, Va., and Dayna Curry, of Thompson's Station, Tenn., and two Australians spent the day in seclusion.................... Georg Taubmann, who headed the Kabul office of the German-based Shelter International Now, provided dramatic details of an escape he called \"horrifying.\" While many details of the past two days remain murky, this is the story as he told it. On Monday night, as the Taliban began fleeing Kabul, soldiers forced the eight detainees from their Kabul jail cells, loaded them in cars and joined the convoy of tanks, pickups and other vehicles streaming southward toward Kandahar. When the convoy reached the neighboring province of Wardak, soldiers led the eight out of the car and locked them in a large steel container. \"It was terribly cold,\" Taubmann said. \"They wanted to lock the container and leave us in there until the morning. We had no blankets. We were freezing the whole night through.\" The next morning they pushed on and were deposited in a prison in the southeastern city of Ghazni. Taubmann described it as the worst of the five prisons in which the group had been housed during the past 3\ufffd months. Shortly after arriving the walls rattled as U.S. aircraft dropped bombs nearby. The detainees then heard heaving gunfire and loud shouting outside the prison. Some time later they heard the doors of the prison cells clanging open. When their cell door burst open, a soldier stood in the doorway gripping a gun. The detainees believed he was a Taliban soldier who might kill them. Instead the soldier stared at them wide-eyed, apparently stunned to find foreigners in the prison. He then shouted, \"Azad! Azad!\" Free! Free! \"We walked into the city and the people came out of the houses and they hugged us and they greeted us,\" said Taubmann. \"They were all clapping. They didn't know there were foreigners in the prison.\" \"It was like a big celebration for all those people,\" he said. A local commander who was among town citizens who rose up against the Taliban then found shelter for the eight at the local offices of an aid organization. With the International Committee of the Red Cross acting as an intermediary, messages were dispatched to the U.S., German and Australian embassies in Islamabad. Because of the difficulty in relaying messages and answers, it took nearly 24 hours to organize the rescue efforts by U.S. special forces based in Pakistan, according to the aid workers and diplomats. Meanwhile, in Ghazni, some local villagers expressed opposition to freeing the aid workers, believing they could be ransomed to their governments for large sums of money, rescuers apparently told the aid workers. On Wednesday night, with the city under a curfew and with some villagers agitating to hold on to the detainees, the eight were led to a field where U.S. special forces helicopters were supposed to pick them up. The aid workers said, however, that the helicopters could not locate them. With the helicopters thumping in the distance, angry villagers who allegedly wanted to hold the workers for ransom running toward them, and fearful that hostile Taliban troops were still in the area, the increasingly desperate aid workers began building a signal fire, first burning the women's headscarves, then sweaters and jackets. \"We burned everything we had \ufffd clothes, everything \ufffd to make a big fire,\" said Taubmann. Special forces teams led the eight into helicopters and flew them to Pakistan, according to diplomats here. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34986-2001Nov15.html"}, {"response": 733, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 15, 2001 (18:50)", "body": "Terry, you're right about love and accepting warmth for those still struggling to regain some sense of security in Afghanistan. They will make mistakes. All new forms of government do. We just need to let them explore what is best for them and keep the crazies from killing them all while they do so. It is a long tedious process. We're still in the process! *Hugs* I wish it were this easy!"}, {"response": 734, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (15:53)", "body": "Lethal Mouth Fresh from his ground war against New York taxi drivers, Lethal Weapon lead Danny Glover once again establishes why it's bad for actors to run their mouth without a script: As guest speaker at an anti-death penalty forum at Princeton University, Glover said America was the one to blame for bombing and terror around the world. \"Yes -- Yes!\" Glover said when asked if American forces should spare the Saudi terrorist's life. \"When I say the death penalty is inhumane. I mean [it's inhumane] whether that person is in a bird cage [jail] or it's bin Laden.\" Lethal Pap at http://www.zwire.com/site/Danny_Glover.html Life in the Cave: Intercepted email As the hunt for bin Laden narrowed as of Wednesday, November 21, the following email appeared in our inbox: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bin Laden, Osama Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 8:17 AM To: Cavemates Subject: The Cave Hi guys. We've all been putting in long hours but we've really come together as a group and I love that. Big thanks to Omar for putting up the poster that says \"There is no I in team\" as well as the one that says \"Hang In There, Baby.\" That cat is hilarious. However, while we are fighting a jihad, we can't forget to take care of the cave. And frankly I have a few concerns. First of all, while it's good to be concerned about cruise missiles, we should be even more concerned about the scorpions in our cave. Hey, you don't want to be stung and neither do I, so we need to sweep the cave daily. I've posted a sign-up sheet near the main cave opening. Second, it's not often I make a video address but when I do, I'm trying to scare the most powerful country on earth, okay? That means that while we're taping, please do not ride your razor scooter in the background. Just while we're taping. Thanks. Third point, and this is a touchy one. As you know, by edict, we're not supposed to shave our beards. But I need everyone to just think hygiene, especially after mealtime. We're all in this together. Fourth: food. I bought a box of Cheez-Its recently, clearly wrote \"Osama\" on the front, and put it on the top shelf. Today, my Cheez-Its were gone. Consideration. That's all I'm saying. Finally, we've heard that there may be American soldiers in disguise trying to infiltrate our ranks. I want to set up patrols to look for them. First patrol will be Omar, Muhammed, Abdul, Akbar, and Richard. Love you lots. Osama"}, {"response": 735, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (15:53)", "body": "Name that President \"He walked into history an obscure, flat footed, bantamy little fellow in a light gray suit, the inhabitant of an eloquence-free zone who gave boring speeches in a flat voice. He was not compelling. This was more obvious because he followed a charismatic leader who did big things and filled the screen. He was quickly defined and dismissed by the opinion elite as \"a first-rate second-rate man.\" And maybe at the beginning he feared the appraisal was correct, for when he became president he said very frankly that he felt the moon and the stars had fallen upon him.\" Okay, who is this guy? Answers at http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/ One More Reason to Give Thanks Out: Yellow Ribbons. In: Flags Surveying the reaction to September 11, Father Richard John Neuhaus asks, where have the yellow ribbons gone? Where did the flags suddenly come from? \"Nobody decreed that it should be so,\" he writes in the December issue of First Things; \"it just happened, and its happening is likely to be of great significance.\" First appearing in the Iranian hostage crisis two decades ago, the ribbons were \"too often a symbol of self-pity and maudlin sentimentality.\" But they've been replaced by \"a buoyant patriotism unprecedented in living memory.\" http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/rbartley/?id=95001487 \"I Have A Dream\" The hallucinations brought on by living with shrapnel inside your skull continue among the Taliban \"leadership:\" \"Recent reports suggested that Mullah Omar, facing almost certain defeat, had agreed to surrender Kandahar. But yesterday Ahmad Karzai, whose brother Hamid has been negotiating with the Taliban for the surrender of the city, said Mullah Omar had changed his mind because he had had a prophetic dream in which he remained in power. \"I have had a dream in which I am in charge for as long as I live,\" Mr. Karzai quoted Mullah Omar as saying.\" For as long as you live, Omar? Okay. Start the countdown clock at mission control! http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia_china/story.jsp?story=105801 Duh as in 'Diplomat' The editors of The New Republic on why Colin Powell and his elves should back off and give victory a chance. \"Just how brilliant do the diplomats of the United States think they are? They seem to believe that they can calibrate a place that is infamous for its lack of calibration. Their thinking about the political conditions for a military victory in Afghanistan has become rigid and dogmatic: they foolishly attempted to delay the fall of Kabul until their own plans for it could be met, once again giving Osama bin Laden the impression that we are reluctant warriors and hesitant victors. What happened in the North this week was not the United States unleashing the Northern Alliance; it was the Northern Alliance surprising the United States. And the United States could not bring itself to concede that this was a pleasant surprise.\" http://www.tnr.com/112601/editorial112601.html This Week's Conventional Media Wizdum THIS war is in trouble. We're bogged down, getting nowhere and staring at a Vietnam-style quagmire. The Taliban's grip on the country remains total. These famously tough warriors of iron resolve are unlikely to be. . . Whoops, sorry, that was last week. Just let me punch up this week's Conventional Media Wisdom. Ah, here we go. Things are moving too fast. There's a dangerous power vacuum. The Taliban, being famously tough, etc, have pulled off a brilliant double-bluff by abandoning every major city and lever of government. Their grip on selected southern and western caves remains total. The Northern Alliance are too vicious, unfairly targeting enemy soldiers instead of just killing unarmed women and homosexuals. The collapse of the burqa market will devastate the Afghan fashion industry. .,"}, {"response": 736, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (15:53)", "body": "http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/dt?ac=006605705660173&rtmo=V1PPjumx&atmo=rrrrrrrq&pg=/01/11/17/do02.html Can't We All Just Get Along? The New York Times reports that the \"spiritual ' leader of the Taliban is appealing to the world to just forgive and forget: Syed Tayyab Agha, spokesman for Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, also told a news conference that it is time to ``forget'' about the Sept. 11 terror attacks in the United States, as they have been superseded by the U.S.-led war on Afghanistan. ``You should forget the Sept. 11 attacks because now there is a new fighting against Muslims and Islam, and the international and global terrorists like America and Britain, they are killing daily our innocent people,'' he told journalists in the Afghan border town of Spinboldak. All in favor of inviting this guy to Thanksgiving dinner, send email to caveguys@screweinstan .com And Next on the USA's Christmas List Is.... An end to Saddam's regime would be a major defeat for terrorism and would give us great leverage in getting others-Iran and Syria, Saudis and Palestinians-to shut down terrorist movements. Winter, some say, is a bad time for war in Afghanistan. Everyone agrees that winter is a good time for war in Iraq. The time may come soon for George W. Bush to say again, \"Let's roll.\" Michael Barone at U.S. News http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/011126/politics/26pol.htm"}, {"response": 737, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (18:41)", "body": "This is really great stuff on a day full of stuffing. Thanks! Harry Trumanm is my guess for Prez in the first part, but I am still hungry and preparing sacrifices for Mme Pele for later in the day."}, {"response": 738, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 22, 2001 (21:08)", "body": "\"For the time being, the reasons behind the advance on Kunduz remain unclear.\" ... \"Even as the advance began some northern commanders continued to insist that a surrender was still possible.\" \"The BBC's Jon Sopel outside Kunduz said the military advance may indicate a battle for control of the town between different factions of the Northern Alliance.\" http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1669000/1669567.stm"}, {"response": 739, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 26, 2001 (20:27)", "body": "I heard a blockbuster rumor today. Basically, there is a French book being published which recounts the FBI's investigation of Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts. which says that they were hot on the trail of all of the terorists and were then pulled off the case by the State Department just before 9/11. Reportedly, the chief of the FBI investigation quit over the interference from the State Department. I'll try and substantiate this with some facts and sources."}, {"response": 740, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Nov 29, 2001 (18:12)", "body": "Interesting! I'll check too..."}, {"response": 741, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 30, 2001 (08:11)", "body": "They may fave found Bin Laden's hideout. See topic 49 in the news conference. There's a picture of this mountain fortress."}, {"response": 742, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Dec 2, 2001 (23:56)", "body": "I didn't know where else to put this. My Daughter-in-law sent it to me. I think it sums up my feelings as well as hers and my son's. Giving Thanks for What We're Not http://www.ncpa.org/edo/pd/2001/pd111901.html"}, {"response": 743, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (13:57)", "body": "dkline Mon Dec 10 '01 (09:49) Meanwhile, today's NY Times has a very encouraging front page article on the demoralizing effect the Afghan Jihad has had on the Swat Valley region of Pakistan (home to Shangri-La, believe it or not). 15,000 men were \"volunteered\" by their local mullahs to go fight -- \"the militant leaders mostly stayed home, or crossed the frontier only long enough to declare themselves holy warriors before hastening back,\" notes the article -- and as many as 3,000 have never returned. The reason I say it's encouraging is that the great losses suffered by these poor uneducated people are surely weakening the hold over them that the fundamentalists have until now enjoyed. As one disillusioned local put it: \"So a lot of innocent people have died, and Sufi Muhammad (the local religious boss) and other religious leaders are responsible for this. They sent people who had no training whatsoever to war, and then they stayed back in Pakistan. They are still alive, while so many others have died.\" One day we're going to be shocked to discover just how much control -- top to bottom -- the fundamentalists really had in Pakistan, a country with several ready-to-use nuclear weapons. The war, thank God, will hopefully allow us (and Mushareff) to break the grip these fanatics have on such a strategic country. There's a book here, for anyone brave enough to do it. Read the full article at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/10/international/asia/10JIHA.html?searchpv=nytToday"}, {"response": 744, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (08:25)", "body": "I was driving down the highway to work this morning and most of the radio stations did a memorial national anthem at the same time the Sept 11 attacks took place just 3 months ago. It's hard to believe that 3 months have gone by. As Bush spoke on the radio at a service, I was passing by the exact spot where I first heard the news as he was saying \"we will all remember where we were on that day.\" Where were you? How did you hear the news? How has your life changed since then? How has it affected your world?"}, {"response": 745, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (14:51)", "body": "Has anyone else heard this? I got it in an email from a friend, yesterday: *The extended bin Laden family is building a trade center in Lebanon that's an image of one of the twin towers.* If this is the case, what a horrific way to memorialize it."}, {"response": 746, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (14:57)", "body": "The WTC was attacked at 2AM Hawaiian time. I was awakened the next morning (about 5 hours later) with the news and turned on the television. I still can't (or don't want to) believe the devastation it unleashed. I still look at the images on TV. My mind recoils from watching, but I know I must not forget, so I watch. I can see the buildings falling down even with my eyes open."}, {"response": 747, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (15:06)", "body": "It has affected my world by making a routine inter-island commute into a 4 hours ordeal. Two hours on each end to have all things gone through carefully, walking around in a seemingly armed camp surrounded by rifles at the ready National Guard Troops. We also are forbidden fishing from the breakwaters, and the piers are sealed off by customs inspectors. Hawaii is considered a war zone, so we are also partolled by gunships - both US Navy and Coast Guard. When we went to the summit of Kilauea for Thanksgiving dinner, we noted that the Kilauea Military Rest Camp there hand armed guards where none had existed before, and a heavy metal gate had been installed across each entrance. I think we will never be the same again. Our childhood has been taken away from us, and we must be adults like all the rest of the world has had to be for so long. My delight is the determined comradship I find in my friends who were not all that friendly before. The \"we take care of our own\" attitude has been replaced by \"you AR our own.\" I hope that part lasts."}, {"response": 748, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (17:00)", "body": "This is very strange. I wish I knew what factory was at the bottom of the picture. No, I don't believe it.... http://www2.justnet.ne.jp/~kiti/Ufo/wtc/wtc.htm"}, {"response": 749, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (20:51)", "body": "Tom Clancy on why the CIA didn't catch the 9-11 terrorists O'REILLY: Was there a reason that Turner and Carter -- was their a reason why Turner and Carter wanted a weaker [CIA]? CLANCY: It's politically correct. O'REILLY: Simple as that? CLANCY: I think so. The political left is, you know, they deal in symbols rather than reality. The general difference between conservatives and liberals is liberals like pretty pictures and conservatives like to build bridges that people can drive across. And conservatives are indeed conservative because if the bridge falls down, people die. Where as the liberals figure, oh, we can always build a nice memorial to them and make people forget it happened and it was our fault. They're very good at making people forget it was their fault, all right. The CIA was gutted by people on the political left who don't like intelligence operations, and as a result of that, as an indirect result of that, we've lost 5,000 citizens last week."}, {"response": 750, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (22:37)", "body": ""}, {"response": 751, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 13, 2001 (21:15)", "body": "The Tape http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/ret.bin.laden.videotape/ CNN has posted a transcript in pdf format http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2001/US/12/13/transcript/binladentape.pdf David Kline (dkline) Thu Dec 13 '01 (09:20) 32 lines Yep, I just saw the Bin Laden tape and it is unbelievable. The man is toast. No doubt he did it (although there will always be 250 people in the world who think the tape is doctored or whatever). And no doubt his callous admissions and disregard for others will hurt his image greatly. Especially his laughter. People hate smug assholes, and OBL is one. Not a lot of things are truly \"chilling\" to me. This tape was. I was also interested to notice the same sort of ass-kissing by OBL subordinates that I remember from my old political days. Only in this case, it was OBL's henchment vying with each other for the most vivid or predictive or praiseworthy (of OBL) dreams that they were pretending to have had. These schmucks were all claiming had these vivid dreams which were all just a bit too pat and synchronous to real-world events for my taste. And they were competing with each other to tell comrade Bin Laden about the praiseworthy meaning of their dreams. What pathetic fucks. I'll tell you what, though. It confirms my sense that OBL was laughing at us during the bombing-only phase of our campaign. Bombing was what they expected us to do. They did not expect us to get on the ground and help the Northern Alliance. And they certainly did not expect that cooperation would lead to the total military collapse of the Taliban in 4 weeks. So who's laughing now, Bin Laudenam? I'll tell you, though, I feel sorry for anyone watching this tape who lost family or loved ones in 9/11. It must be so hurtful to see a low-life like OBL laughing at the murder of innocents. God. The transcript in html http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/tape.transcript/ and it is in real video at http://video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/ter121301_osama.rm?mode=compact Sulayman ((Abu Guaith)): ... So I went back to the Shaykh (meaning UBL) who was sitting in a room with 50 to 60 people. I tried to tell him about what I saw, but he made gesture with his hands, meaning: \"I know, I know\ufffd\" UBL: He did not know about the operation. What an amazing tape excerpt -- seen at the CNN site. Questions: CNN said it was not taped in chronological order, rather than saying the tape had been edited/dubbed. Strange. Is that just spin? It would have had to have been edited by someone to be out of order, right? Odd. I think the stakes are too high to fake a tape like this. I think it is real, and chilling. I wonder what made them delay releasing it. The propaganda value for those in the Western world who were uneasy about proof is unmistakable. I am very curious how this will play in the Pakistani press and on al-Jezeera tv. I wish we had an arabic speaker who could translate/paraphrase what the commentary and lead-ins are like there. Or a good arabic media critique site (in english) for the same purpose. David Kline (dkline) Thu Dec 13 '01 (11:27) 66 lines > One thing that struck me was the way the visiting \"Saudi cleric\" kept > > saying \"thanks be to Allah...by the grace of Allah\" in practically every > other sentence, while UBL smiled in a way that made me think he finds > other people's devotion to Allah amusing and useful, but that it's not > something he particularly shares. Thank you, Jake. That's a very good point -- and very typical behavior for the top leader of a movement that also functions like a personality cult. The henchmen kiss ass. The leader starts believing the worshipful. And he starts looking down at his henchmen who then worship him even more. Anyway, a few points: 1) WHEN THE TAPE WAS MADE? The Tape was made probably the same day that US chopper lost a wheel and was abandoned (or shot down). Anyone remember what day that was? It was right around the mid-October time of the special forces PR raid. Anyway, this was also the time when US fortunes in Afghanistan looked their bleakest. It seemed all we were doing was bombing Red Cross hospitals and everyone talked about how we'd under-estimated the strength of the Taliban. Even I was a bit demoralized by our lack of progress, and kept wishing we'd just put some SF guys on the ground with the NA and stop all this futile if not counter-productive bombing. The point being, the tape was shot when it appeared to Bin Laden that the US was doing exactly as he expected -- i.e., come in and bomb from a safe height, but not get our boots dirty with on-the-grouned fighting. So he was feeling supremely confident in his ultimate and total success, probably more confident than at any time before or since. 2) WHY THE TAPE WAS MADE? We look for savvy thinking, for conspiratorial 3-steps-ahead planning, in the behavior of Osama bin Laden. But the fact is he was simply suffering from great hubris at the time (see my point #1 above), and allowed the local hosts of that dinner party (which was probab"}, {"response": 752, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (05:39)", "body": "This is Aljazeera 's account today from the above url cited by David Kline."}, {"response": 753, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (05:40)", "body": "Bin Laden: Attackers Knew About The Operation Just Before They Boarded The Planes The Pentagon released Thursday a video that it says implicates Osama Bin Laden in the 11 September attacks on New York and the Pentagon. The 40-minute recording is of very poor audio and visual quality. The tape was recorded on November 9 in Kandahar, Afghanistan. US officials disclosed they found the videotape in a private residence in Jalalabad. According to the CNN, Bin Laden and the other three men seated with him make numerous references to various al Qaeda members having dreams of planes hitting tall buildings at least a year before the attacks. Speaking of the hijackers, bin Laden states, \"They were trained and we did not reveal the operation to them until they are there and just before they boarded the planes.\" Additionally, he had turned on his radio in advance to listen to coverage of the attacks and that he had underestimated the damage that would be inflicted on the World Trade Center. Bin Laden is quoted as saying: \"We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower.\" This comment referred to hijacked airliners, which hit and destroyed the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York. \"We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all,\" he added. http://www.wbur.org/special/specialcoverage/feature_aljaz.asp"}, {"response": 754, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (19:32)", "body": "I LIKE DAVID KLINE. He says things I would not dare but think, anyway! I refuse to offend my eyes by looking at that man. I watched to be informed but that is all. Is there doubt? Not even for the criminally insane person that he is!"}, {"response": 755, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (22:24)", "body": "Mutual. David Kline hits home with his poignant observations, based on years in Afghanistan."}, {"response": 756, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (22:52)", "body": "Indeed. I can feel the intensity of David Kline's anguish and love for Afghanistan in his eloquence. Thanks, Terry, for your continuing posts of his comments. I still worry about that idiot who called Art Bell last night suggesting OBL be set free because we do not punish the criminally insane. Art cut him off, and the following phone calls with creative ways to deal with a captured live OBL gave me much comfort. We have developed a wry sense of the ridiculous when dealing with the actuality of the current war, but are we angry? committed? determined? You'd better believe it!"}, {"response": 757, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Sun, Dec 16, 2001 (17:25)", "body": "Hi all I am wondering if it might be better to set a trap for bin Laden with bait of some sort to lure him out. I am not sure how you would do this but it is obvious to me that bin Laden will not be caught in a specific place if he does not to be. Because everyone is climbing a tree called Afghanistan, he may have quietly climbed a tree called Pakistan or Kazakhstan or something like that. I also wonder if assuming Bush decides to move into Somalia and North Korea, if the world coalition will fragment. Even your staunchest ally Britain is rumbling in world media about setting limits as to how far they are prepared to go. I think you need the UN's permission before you set foot on the soil of any other country. Many think America can gain those countries co-operation by offering aid. I urge extreme caution in any decision to expand the war for several reasons: 1)Prove their connections to terrorism 2)Accept that there are more peaceful alternatives to sanctions or military movements in countries like North Korea and Somalia. Humanitarian aid to the former may encourage the former to be more open and possibly allow a thawing of international relations with the North. 3)Another round of diplomacy to reassure key players like the Russians, your European allies and Britain. 4)Don't send the CIA to play the role of the agitator in countries that are preoccupied with internal problems unless the Federal government is prepared to accept some responsibility for wrong doings. 5)Arabs and Muslims have the jitters at the moment over the Palestinian question. Which suggests to me that some \"unthinkable\" things will have to be done to calm them down and stop an escalation of the war. Rob"}, {"response": 758, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 18, 2001 (19:40)", "body": "We've captured Tora Bora but no Osama. David Kline (dkline) Tue Dec 18 '01 (13:55) 23 lines Wait a minute ... you mean there are people here who really believe that the Pakistani border could be sealed tight if only we really wanted to -- and that maybe we don't really want to? Un . . . believable! Not all the world is as secure as a Safeway parking lot, you know. I have spent a good deal of time in those Tora Bora mountains, and crossed that border several times whilst on the run from Russian special forces units and the Pakistani military and intelligence services. Plus I covered the heroin traffic in that region, and I recall how once when the Pakistani government wanted to meet with tribal leaders, they only way they could get them to sit down and talk was to bring in artillery. What's rally happening here, I suspect, is that naive conspiracy-mongering at work here again. You know, the notion of the United States as all-knowing and all-powerful and able to control all events in the world as it chooses. Makes for real good Chomsky, to be sure. But it hardly conforms to the way the real world works. Just ask the Vietnamese. Or Osama bin Laden."}, {"response": 759, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (11:15)", "body": "From today's New York Times report on the swearing in of Hamid Karzai: \"Adding to the optimism and calm that pervaded the capital today was the show of unity by two Afghan military commanders who had been expected to snub the ceremony: General Rashid Dostrum ... and Gen. Ismail Khan.\" The most moving part of the ceremony, said the Times, was when the Belgian foreign minister Louis Michel made areference to slain Alliance leader Massoud Ahmed Shah that \"captured the combination of grief, exhaustion and aching hope\" that Afghans are feeling today. \"I am sure,\" Michel said, \"that Mr. Massoud is proud of his nation today.\" According to the Times, \"That single sentence sent tears rolling down scores of weathered, wrinkled and scarred cheeks in the audience.\" Really wonderful. And for me as an interested outside observer, especially so. I've literally waited 22 years for this day - David Kline"}, {"response": 760, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (11:16)", "body": "And Kline adds this: There's certainly cause for hope and optimism re: Afghanistan, but it's also important to be aware of the dangers ahead as well. I can think of many mistakes that the new government could make that would jeopardize Afghan peace and unity: 1) Karzai must not get involved in another muddle with the US (such as the one over amnesty for Mullah Omar) thaty makes him look like a US puppet. 2) Karzai must firmly suppress by armed force if necessary any warlordism or lawlessness or resistance to the government -- at least from middle- or lower-level military, political, religious or tribal figures. 3) But Karzai must never use suppressive methods (an Afghan tendency) against high-level military, political, religious or tribal dissenters. Always compromise should be sought; negotiations conducted. The above are just three things to worry about. I can think of many more potential roadblocks ahead that Karzai will need to skillfully negotiate. Hopefully he can do it. But it's not at all certain he can."}, {"response": 761, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (10:50)", "body": "David Kline: I have waited (I kid you not) 22 years for this day! -- but even apart from my personal attachment to that country I do believe that something of great import for the world is now taking place in Afghanistan. You cannot push a people through much more suffering and disaster than that which the the Afghans have experienced in recent years, yet now we are witness to a rebirth of hope that many though impossible. Will it succeed? We'll soon know. But the subtext for this inauguration ceremony, as Barb suggests, is really the question of whether hope and rebirth is possible for the larger world as a whole. If the Afghans can save themselves, after all, then maybe we can, too."}, {"response": 762, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (22:15)", "body": "Poor Afghanistan. I truly hope those people can live in peace and not become a global battlefield. There is so much to hope for, now...!"}, {"response": 763, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Dec 28, 2001 (10:03)", "body": "Mr. John Reid the shoe bomber really is part Jamaican apparently a small time criminal who converted to Islam while in prison. Details here: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001570016-2001595137,00.html That article links him to Zacarias Moussaoui, the \"20th hijacker\". What next? Body cavity bombs?"}, {"response": 764, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 28, 2001 (15:26)", "body": "It does not take much plastique as far as I know. Scary, indeed! When will the dental record become necessary, too?!"}, {"response": 765, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 28, 2001 (16:18)", "body": "Swiss-led campaign to rebuild the destroyed Bamiyan Buddhas: http://www.msnbc.com/news/661589.asp http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011121/sc/attack_afghan_statues_dc_1.html http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/18/wbud18.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/11/18/ixhomer.html More on what's been lost/missing in Afghanistan: http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2001%2F11%2F23%2Fwkab223.xml http://www.dallasnews.com/science/STORY.ea3e5c965f.b0.af.0.a4.6e84a.html http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20011112/taliban.html"}, {"response": 766, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Dec 28, 2001 (16:19)", "body": "A number of artifacts are being recovered from the WTC site: http://www.nydailynews.com/2001-11-15/News_and_Views/City_Beat/a-132149.asp"}, {"response": 767, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 4, 2002 (14:06)", "body": "http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=380255744 Indo-Pak war raging in cyberspace SIDDHARTH SRIVASTAVA TIMES NEWS NETWORK NEW DELHI: Pakistani hackers have made several attempts to hack into Indian sites--especially those containing data on sensitive information relating to nuclear test management--to access sensitive information related to the country's security, said sources in the Intelligence Bureau. The sites targetted include those of Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research (IGCAR), the Nuclear Science Centre (NSC) and the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC). Although these three sites have been repeatedly hacked in the past, according to IB officials, the recent attempts were aimed at accessing crucial data secured under severely firewalled servers. \"It is quite apparent that the new breed of hackers are much more equipped and trained,\" say sources in the IB. Officials also say that there could have been at least a couple of successful attempts to break the codes of the sites. \"There have been as many as seven attempts to hack into the BARC data since the attack on Indian Parliament on December 13. We are also on the lookout for spy programs that might have been installed,\" says an official. The IB has already written to the defence and the home ministry about the issue. The two ministries have, in turn, sought the help of cyber security firms to shore up the sites. The hackers, according to officials, may be on the payroll of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence. There has been a history of infiltration into Indian sites with sensitive information by Pakistani hackers. The first infiltration into BARC was in 1998, when it was hacked by three members of Milworm, a Pakistan-based hacker group. Ever since, BARC servers have been favourite targets of Pakistani hackers. \"This year alone, at least one spy program has been detected in a BARC mail server,\" says an official. The first intrusion into IGCAR was reported in January last year when G-Force, a Pakistani hacker group, defaced its main server. Subsequently, other servers in IGCAR have been repeatedly hacked by G-Force. Indian intelligence officials have identified one hacker as Rsnake, who is said to have copied the master database from IGCAR and provided some data to Pakistani intelligence as proof of his access. The ISI, in turn, has realised the importance of hackers after BARC was hacked in 1998. The first Pakistani hacker group-Pakistani Hackers Club-was formed by two 'hacktivists' who used the pseudonyms DoctorNuker and Mr Sweet. DoctorNuker took to hacking when he was a computer science student at Karachi University. Along with fellow hacker Dizasta (real name: Fahad Shamshek Khan), he started hacking into critical Indian and US servers. DoctorNuker, say IB officials, was the first hacker whose skills were recognised by the ISI and under the latter's directives, focused on critical Indian government servers (especially those relating to nuclear and atomic establishments). But sources say the most active Pakistani hacker in the recent past has been a person impersonating as Rsnake, who started hacking from the Netherlands where he was working with a group of portals. Inspired by DoctorNuker, he started the hacker group G-Force from Holland. The ISI has now got him to Pakistan to coordinate other hackers targeting Indian websites, claim IB officials."}, {"response": 768, "author": "Matt", "date": "Fri, Jan 4, 2002 (15:30)", "body": "Its all The Same,War, not good for any one"}, {"response": 769, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jan 4, 2002 (23:58)", "body": "There never HAS been a \"good\" war. However, if our ancestors had not fought for your right to say what you said, perhaps you would not have the right to do so. Soem causes have to be bought more preciously than others. Or would you rather be speaking German or Japanese, now? Alas, war is not a simple case of right or wrong when there are two sides."}, {"response": 770, "author": "suzee202000", "date": "Sat, Jan 12, 2002 (01:18)", "body": "(739 - Paul Terry Walhus (terry)I heard a blockbuster rumor today. Basically, there is a French book being published which recounts the FBI's investigation of Osama Bin Laden and his cohorts. which says that they were hot on the trail of all of the terorists and were then pulled off the case by the State Department just before 9/11. Reportedly, the chief of the FBI investigation quit over the interference from the State Department. *************************** CNN AMERICAN MORNING WITH PAULA ZAHN Explosive New Book Published in France Alleges that U.S. Was in Negotiations to Do a Deal with Taliban Aired January 8, 2002 - 07:34 ET - CNN January 8, 2002 - 07:34 ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: Time to check in with ambassador-in- residence, Richard Butler, this morning. An explosive new book published in France al leges that the United States was in negotiations to do a deal with the Taliban for an oil pipeline in Afghanistan. Joining us right now is Richard Butler to shed some light on this new book. He is the former chief U.N. weapons inspector. He is now on the Council on Foreign Relations and our own ambassador-in- residence -- good morning. RICHARD BUTLER, FMR. U.N. WEAPONS INSPECTOR: Good morning, Paula. ZAHN: Boy, if any of these charges are true... BUTLER: If... ZAHN: ... this... BUTLER: Yes. ZAHN: ... is really big news. BUTLER: I agree. ZAHN: Start off with what your understanding is of what is in this book -- the most explosive charge. BUTLER: The most explosive charge, Paula, is that the Bush administration -- the present one, just shortly after assuming office slowed down FBI investigations of al Qaeda and terrorism in Afghanistan in order to do a deal with the Taliban on oil -- an oil pipeline across Afghanistan. ZAHN: And this book points out that the FBI's deputy director, John O'Neill, actually resigned because he felt the U.S. administration was obstructing... BUTLER: A proper... ZAHN: ... the prosecution of terrorism. BUTLER: Yes, yes, a proper intelligence investigation of terrorism. Now, you said if, and I affirmed that in responding to you. We have to be careful here. These are allegations. They're worth airing and talking about, because of their gravity. We don't know if they are correct. But I believe they should be investigated, because Central Asian oil, as we were discussing yesterday, is potentially so important. And all prior attempts to have a pipeline had to be done through Russia. It had to be negotiated with Russia. Now, if there is to be a pipeline through Afghanistan, obviating the need to deal with Russia, it would also cost less than half of what a pipeline through Russia would cost. So financially and politically, there's a big prize to be had. A pipeline through Afghanistan down to the Pakistan coast would bring out that Central Asian oil easier and more cheaply. ZAHN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) as you spoke about this yesterday, we almost immediately got a call from \"The New York Times.\" BUTLER: Right. ZAHN: They want you to write an op-ed piece on this over the weekend. BUTLER: Right, and which I will do. ZAHN: But let's come back to this whole issue of what John O'Neill, this FBI agent... BUTLER: Right. ZAHN: ... apparently told the authors of this book. He is alleging that -- what -- the U.S. government was trying to protect U.S. oil interests? And at the same time, shut off the investigation of terrorism to allow for that to happen? BUTLER: That's the allegation that instead of prosecuting properly an investigation of terrorism, which has its home in Afghanistan as we now know, or one of its main homes, that was shut down or slowed down in order to pursue oil interests with the Taliban. The people who we have now bombed out of existence, and this not many months ago. The book says that the negotiators said to the Taliban, you have a choice. You have a carpet of gold, meaning an oil deal, or a carpet of bombs. That's what the book alleges. ZAHN: Well, I know you're going to be doing your own independent homework on this... BUTLER: Yes. ZAHN: ... to see if you can confirm any of this. Let's move on to the whole issue of Iraq. The deputy defense secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, at one time was considered one of those voices within the administration... For the complete transcript, go to the following URL: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0201/08/ltm.05.html ************************ U.S. Taliban Policy influenced by Oil by Julio Godoy Inter Press Service English News Wire, 16 November 2001 Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca 17 November 2001 A new book by two French intelligence analysts claims that at the behest of U.S. oil companies, the Bush administration initially blocked FBI investigations into terrorism, while it bargained with the Taliban for the delivery of Osama bin Laden in exchange for political recognition and economic aid. In the book \"Bin Laden, la verite interdite\" (\"B"}, {"response": 771, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 13, 2002 (04:55)", "body": "Wow, that was like a big spoiler alert after the text bomb. I'm glad Mahfouz is under arrest We need to know the truth of the events leading up to September 11 so is this a piece of the puzzle, the whole puzzle, or is it a distortion. Obviously Paula Zahn thinks it's worthy of probing, let's see where this story goes."}, {"response": 772, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (16:51)", "body": "The war will end in 2008, now we know. Pentagon warns of war lasting six years By David Wastell in Washington (Filed: 13/01/2002) AMERICAN military chiefs believe that the global war against terrorism will last at least six years. Pentagon officials are being advised to draw up budgets and plans to buy new equipment on the assumption that the struggle against al-Qa'eda and other international terrorist groups will endure until 2008, and perhaps even longer. \" continued at http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$MO5SHXQAAECK5QFIQMGSFF4AVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2002/01/13/wtal213.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/01/13/ixnewstop.html"}, {"response": 773, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (20:22)", "body": "Happy Us. We KNOW when the war will end. How very peculiar!"}, {"response": 774, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 17, 2002 (03:51)", "body": "More from the same article: Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, has won President Bush's backing for a sharp increase in military spending. Extra money will be allocated for more of the weapons that have proved useful in Afghanistan, such as unmanned surveillance and attack aircraft. The increased spending will continue whether or not Osama bin Laden is found soon. It follows signs that the Pentagon is wearying of the intense public interest in the hunt for the al-Qa'eda leader, and Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader. John McCain, a senator and former chairman of the armed services committee, said on his return from a trip to the Afghan region that he felt frustrated that bin Laden was still at large. He added, however: \"He's on the run now. I think he's a threat so long as he's alive, but it's a far different scenario than the one where he had sanctuary and was able to operate with a financial network and a network of terrorists throughout the world.\" After four weeks in which the Pentagon and the media were constantly on tenterhooks for the imminent capture of bin Laden, a change of tack ordered by Mr Rumsfeld has become evident. Officials say that they will no longer even hint at where they think he might be. There have also been reports of clashes between the Pentagon and the CIA over the quality of intelligence emanating from Afghanistan. Some military officials feared there was a \"missed opportunity\" when the Pentagon ordered US Central Command to rely on local Afghan forces rather than US troops to try to intercept and capture bin Laden after the assault on al-Qa'eda's Tora Bora mountain hideouts. Not only did bin Laden apparently escape, but so have a series of Taliban leaders over the past two weeks, almost certainly including Mullah Omar, raising questions about the competence or possible corruption of the Afghan forces. Although no politician is yet prepared to risk publicly differing with Mr Bush over the administration's handling of the war, some advisers fear that public patience over the failure to catch bin Laden will evaporate if the hunt drags on too long - or if there is a fresh terrorist attack on the US."}, {"response": 775, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 18, 2002 (11:30)", "body": "Osama bin Laden may be on the verge of winning a round, the Saudis are said to be on the verge of asking the Americans to leave Saudi Arabia: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64536-2002Jan17.html This was Bin Laden and Al Quaeda's aim, and it will vindicate Bin Laden to the Islamic world. I hate to see it take this turn. More later as I learn more."}, {"response": 776, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 18, 2002 (11:33)", "body": "US Envoy Plays Down Reports of Strains with Saudi January 18, 2002 09:34 AM ET Email this article Printer friendly version RIYADH (Reuters) - A senior U.S. envoy played down U.S. media reports of tensions with Saudi Arabia over the presence of American troops in the kingdom, an Arabic newspaper reported on Friday. \"I did not come to the kingdom with any demand, instead I came as an ally and a friend,\" U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Lincoln Bloomfield told the London-based daily Al-Hayat. \"Our cooperation is very important and is not only about (fighting) the terrorist al Qaeda organization but also for the sake of long-term regional security,\" he said. The New York Times reported this week that senior officials in Congress and at the Pentagon had called for the pullout of U.S. forces from Saudi Arabia because of what they see as its tepid support for the U.S. war on terrorism and restrictions on U.S. military operations. Bloomfield said he had not discussed with Saudi officials the presence of U.S. troops at a Saudi air base, which an influential U.S. senator has said may have to end because of restrictions imposed on them by Saudi Arabia."}, {"response": 777, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 25, 2002 (09:13)", "body": "David Kline (dkline) Thu Jan 24 '02 (10:44) 63 lines I had lunch yesterday with the nephew of the legendary Afghan hero Abdul Haq, and it was rather interesting to hear his views on issues that have something to do with this discussion. First, a bit of background. Khushal Arsala is the son of Abdul Haq's brother. During the anti-Soviet war, the two brothers fought side by side and promised each other that if either died, the other would raise the deceassed's children as if they were his own. And that's what happenned -- Abdul Haq raised Arsala and his siblings as if they were his own kids. So as you might imagine, Arsala has enormous love and hero worship of Abdul Haq, who as you might recall was captured and executed by the Taliban only a few weeks before a sufficient critical mass of popular revolt started the Taliban crumbling. A sad irony, indeed. Anyway, Arsala spoke to two issues that have been very controversial here in the USA: the treatment of Guantanamo prisoners, and the bombing campaign in Afghanistan. On the first issue -- treatment of prisoners -- he said he could understand America's dilemma vis. a vis. the Geneva conventions and other legal issues. He had no real suggestions to offer. But he did want to stress, \"in case you Americans forget,\" that by and large the people detained in Guantanamo are \"beyond the pale\" of anything \"Americans are used to facing.\" They are relentless, he said, and \"they will kill you at the first chance. You Americans are not used to people like this, people with no standard of decency and humanity such as you try to have.\" I guess his point was to be sympathetic to our dilemma, but to also remind us that we are afflicted with akind of naivete and \"sense of fair play\" that while important for us to maintain, may blind us to the utter and implacable hatred of our enemies. Point No. 2 concerned the bombing. Like his uncle Abdul Haq, Arsala opposed the US bombing campaign in Afghanistan. He totally supported our special forces teams working with the Northern Alliance and other opposition forces to oust the Taliban, but he felt much of the bombing, at least, did not serve to aid that effort but merely alienated some of the population owing to the civilian casualties that resulted. What about the continued bombing of suspected Al Queda positions in Paktia province? He said that we definitely had to go in there and kill those people, but by employing bombing, we ended up killing too many innocent civilians when ground action would accomplish the job without such civilian losses. Overall, though, he said that Afghans today overwhelmingly welcome the US presence in the country, but that this could change overnight if a) too many more civilians are killed; or b) we do not deliver immediate aid to help the country get back on its feet. \"How much does it cost for one or two bombing missions?\" he asked. \"That money could provide salaries to thousands of civilservice employees.\" He also said: \"I do not feel that by asking for American economic aid we are asking for charity. Thousands and thousands of our people died to battle first your enemy the Russians and now your enemy Al Queda. And we warned you year after year after year -- Abdul Haq warned you -- that the Taliban and Al Queda would attack America from their bases in Afghanistan. We asked you to help us defeat them, but you refused.\" The above is close to an exact quote. His views are pretty interesting, I think. . Great observations from Abdul Haq's son and David Kline."}, {"response": 778, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 26, 2002 (02:16)", "body": "This is some not good news. In fact, horrible news *if true*. Al Qaida moving into Gaza, may join fight against Israel ANKARA \ufffd Western diplomatic sources said Al Qaida insurgents have infiltrated the West Bank and Gaza Strip in an effort to determine whether the movement should make the Palestinian areas into their new home. The sources said Al Qaida appears to prefer the Gaza Strip over more distant locations such as Somalia. http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 88, "subject": "Oscars 2002", "response_count": 94, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (21:56)", "body": "Best supporting actress, tough one Gloria Steward or the lady in Good Will Hunting, yet Kim Basinger gets it! Hmm, well I didn't see that one. What was the name of the supporting actress in Good Will Hunting?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (22:01)", "body": "Debra L Scott got it for best costumes in Titanic, will this start a roll? Second Oscar of the Night. Kundun didn't get it. Billy Crystal said, and the best thing is that those costumes are drip dry."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (22:09)", "body": "Neve Campbell seemed very tense as one of the announcers, perhaps because she had to use \"Michael Bolton\" and \"exciting\" in the same sentence. She looked kinda scarey."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (22:30)", "body": "Robin Williams was a real obvious choice for Good Will Hunting. Supporting Actor. Titanic for Sound."}, {"response": 5, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Mar 25, 1998 (23:35)", "body": "But let's get serious: how about all those dowdy prom dresses?? Yecchh, I've got better-looking bridesmaids gowns I wouldn't be caught dead in."}, {"response": 7, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (17:03)", "body": "LOL! that is your cross to bear!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jun 23, 1998 (18:10)", "body": "I'll bear any cross, as long as it's pointing in a kind of Northerly direction . . ."}, {"response": 10, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Jun 23, 1998 (18:11)", "body": "Honestly, I don't know WHAT I'm doing here; I know bugger-all about movies! I'm in bed, sick, and bored as hell, that's why."}, {"response": 11, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Tue, Jun 23, 1998 (22:32)", "body": "Hope you feel better soon, Riette."}, {"response": 12, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (02:28)", "body": "Thanks, Charlotte, I'm okay - and how do you do? Do you know alot about movies?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (10:40)", "body": "Well, I watch a lot of movies, and I know a lot about the ones I watch. :) But I would not dare to appear on a movie quiz show."}, {"response": 14, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (13:47)", "body": "That probably means you simply watch a healthy amount - not too many, not too few. And what sort of movies do you prefer - action, drama, comedy? Or just anything that looks interesting? I know little about movies, but when I'm feeling really uptight, and there's no merry-go-around in town, I go see one of these crazy action movies with neither story, nor plot, where everyone just runs around the whole time like silly rabbits; nice way to switch off for a couple of hours."}, {"response": 15, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (15:24)", "body": "It's usually not the movie that's important to me, but the star or the director. I will go see anything with Ralph Fiennes in it, regardless of whatever reviews I have read, regardless of the plot or genre or director. Anything. Likewise, I will see anything directed by Peter Weir or Steven Spielberg. I will (and have see anything Kevin Costner is in. Beyond those givens, I will go see a movie that is getting consistently good reviews in the media, or one that friends highly recommend. I am particularly fond of anything that Miramax distributes. I haven't seen a merry-go-round in years! I guess that's why I turned to books and crochet and movies."}, {"response": 16, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (16:23)", "body": "You HAVEN'T???? Where do you live, girl?? Do you also like the merry-go-round then? Here in Z\ufffdrich the merry-go-around comes every two or three months. My eldest girl, Isa (she's three) is as mad about the rides as me. We usually dump her two year-old sister with Daddy a couple of evenings, and blast a hundred francs or so on the rides. It's getting difficult though, 'cos Elza likes it too, but I really don't think the roller coaster is small enough for her yet . . . It's such a relief to have children as childish as me! Do you have sisters and brothers? I miss my brother and twin sister most when the merry-go-round's in town - sneaking out of my parents' house in the middle of the night with them, and walking 5 km's to the merry-go-round every August is probably one of my fondest childhood memories."}, {"response": 17, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (16:24)", "body": "ha-ha, how disgustingly sentimental!!"}, {"response": 18, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (20:40)", "body": ":) how did sentiment ever get such a bad rep? I have one brother and 2 sisters. we were never close. i have one daughter who has grown up (age 21) and moved to Guam. i miss her, but I am simply loving the freedom of doing whatever I like whenever I like. tonight, I think I will go out to dinner with my best friend and then try and talk her into going to see Mulan."}, {"response": 19, "author": "jgross5", "date": "Wed, Jun 24, 1998 (22:07)", "body": "Sounds like a plan. I think I'll go see 'Wilde' tonight. But first I gotta check the merry-go-round. I like the non-sentiment of seeing kids seeing me coming over when they recognize right away I'm one a them.....forever."}, {"response": 20, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jun 25, 1998 (09:31)", "body": "Sometimes I think having that kind of freedom again would be nice, and at others I'm not sure what I'd (what I WILL HAVE TO do with myself) once the kids are grown up. Sometimes I find it difficult having them, and trying to build my (insignificant) career, and sometimes I can just about wring their little necks (the little one is mischief-ridden!), but I adore going on trips with the eldest one - and I'm looking forward to the day when the little one will be ready too. Isa loves travelling as much as I do (my husband doesn't), and so from time to time we just take a train somewhere, mostly in search of merry-go-rounds!!, sleep over for a night, and return the next da . When we get back we're usually in such high spirits that my poor husband finds it a little difficult to cope . . . so then he just goes very, very silent, and I know it's time to change into an adult again! ha-ha! But I feel if I can remain friends with them while having enough friends of my own, I'll be alright when they go out of the house, and hopefully it will make it easier for them too. I don't know, you'll have to tell me how it works, Charlotte. How was Mulan? I've never heard of it - who's in it?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Thu, Jun 25, 1998 (10:48)", "body": "We didn't go see Mulan, which is Disney's latest animated epic, getting very good reviews. Instead, we rented two of our favorites: In & Out and The Fifth Element ."}, {"response": 22, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jun 25, 1998 (17:11)", "body": "I saw the Fifth Element, yould you believe!!! It got bad reviews here, but I adored it."}, {"response": 23, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Thu, Jun 25, 1998 (18:38)", "body": "Got bad reviews here, too, but my friends and I were totally captivated. We formed an \"Elements\" club. You had to see the movie 5 times to be a member. :) Last night was #7 for me. I have the sountrack CD, which I keep in the car all the time. I'm getting a new purebred kitten next week, and I've named him Korben Dallas. Bet that made you smile!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jun 25, 1998 (21:56)", "body": "ummm... excuse the dolt-like question... besides the name of your future kitten... am I supposed to be familiar with the name Korben Dallas?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Thu, Jun 25, 1998 (23:21)", "body": "Oh. Sorry! I forgot that others besides Riette would be reading this! No, Stacey. It would only be meaningful if you had seen The Fifth Element ."}, {"response": 26, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (00:30)", "body": "So. Speaking of Oscars (lame attempt at avoiding the topic police), :) I recently re-watched Oscar and Lucinda. Has anyone else had a chance to see this exquisite jewel since it has become available on video? It was nominated for one Academy Award, which to my way of thinking was a crime against art. Ralph Fiennes disappears into a character like no other actor I have ever seen. It was a bravura performance that was shamefully overlooked by the masses."}, {"response": 27, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (01:35)", "body": "and back to your, um, kitten... what kind?"}, {"response": 28, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (02:19)", "body": "He's a Ragdoll ! They are known as the \"gentle giants\". He will continue to grow for the next 3 years, eventually weighing 30 pounds. :) If you are really interested, I've put some photos of what he will look like as he grows on my web site ."}, {"response": 29, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (02:27)", "body": "went and looked at both sites..... thanks for the information!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (02:50)", "body": "Great name for your kitty, Charlotte!! Has he got the personality to cope with it?!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (03:22)", "body": "Dunno. He's still with the breeder. He's paid for, but not ready to come home yet. She says there is a good possibility I can bring him home July 3. But I know he will be sexy and affectionate just like his namesake, as portrayed by Bruce Willis. Thanks for asking, KitchenManager! Us old ladies whose kids have grown and gone can get purty durn excited about our crocheting and our cats. :)"}, {"response": 32, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Jun 30, 1998 (22:45)", "body": "Sorry Charlotte. I did see the Fifth Element but only once so the name did not register anywhere relevant in my brain! Neat pictures!"}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (19:58)", "body": "Oscar Predictions: BEST PICTURE BEST DIRECTOR Elizabeth Neil Jordan, The Butcher Boy Gods and Monsters Shekhar Kapur, Elizabeth Saving Private Ryan John Madden, Shakespeare in Love Shakespeare in Love Steven Speilberg, Saving Private Ryan The Truman Show Peter Weir, The Truman Show BEST ACTOR BEST ACTRESS Roberto Benigni, Life is Beautiful Cate Blanchett, Elizabeth Jim Carrey, The Truman Show Fernanda Montenegro, Central Station Tom Hanks, Saving Private Ryan Gwyneth Paltrow, Shakespeare in Love Ian McKellen, Gods and Monsters Susan Sarandon, Stepmom John Travolta, Primary Colors Meryl Streep, One True Thing BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Ed Harris, The Truman Show Joan Allen, Pleasantville Bill Murray, Rushmore Kathy Bates, Primary Colors Giovanni Ribisi, Saving Pvt. Ryan Judi Davis, Shakespeare in Love Geoffrey Rush, Shakespeare in Love Lisa Kudrow, The Opposite of Sex Billy Bob Thornton, A Simple Plan Lynn Redgrave, Gods and Monsters On a different note, the 19th Annual Razzie Awards nominations are: WORST PICTURE * An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * Armageddon * The Avengers * Godzilla * Spice World WORST ACTOR * Ralph Fiennes, The Avengers * Ryan O'Neal, An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * Ryan Phillippe, 54 * Adam Sandler, The Waterboy * Bruce Willis, Armageddon/Mercury Rising/The Siege WORST ACTRESS * Yasmine Bleeth, BASE-ketball * Anne Heche, Psycho * Jessica Lange, Hush * The Spice Girls, Spice World * Uma Thurman, The Avengers WORST SCREEN \"COUPLE\" * Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler, Armageddon * Any Combination of Two Characters, Body Parts or Fashion Accessories, Spice World * Any Combination of Two People Playing Themselves (or Playing WITH Themselves), An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * Leonardo DiCaprio (as twins!), The Man in the Iron Mask * Ralph Fiennes and Uma Thurman, The Avengers WORST SUPPORTING ACTOR * Sean Connery, The Avengers * Joe Esterhas (as himself), An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * Roger Moore, Spice World * Joe Pesci, Lethal Weaopon 4 * Sylvester Stallone (as himself), An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS * Ellen Albertini Dow (as \"Disco Dottie\"), 54 * Jenny McCarthy, BASE-ketball * Maria Pitillo, Godzilla * Liv Tyler, Armageddon * Raquel Welch, Chairman of the Board SPECIAL AWARD: \"1998 -- THE WORST MOVIE-GOING YEAR EVER\" (New Category, Dis-Honoring The Worst Movie Trends of The Year) * Gidgets n'n Geezers (58-Year-Old Leading Men Wooing 28-Year-Old Leading Ladies) * If You've Seen the Trailer, Why bother to See the Movie?!? (Previews That Give Away The Film's ENTIRE Plot) * 30 Minutes of Story -- conveyed in Less Than 3 Hours! (L-O-N-G-E-R Movies...Shorter Plotz) * THX: The Audience is Deafening (Movie Sound So Loud It Constitutes Assault w/a Deadening Weapon) * Yo Quiero Tacky Tie-Ins! (Mega-Zillion-Dollar Cross-Promotional Overkill: Armageddon, Godzilla, Etc.) WORST DIRECTOR * Michael Bay, Armageddon * Jeremiah Chechick, The Avengers * Roland Emmerich, Godzilla * Alan Smithee (aka Arthur Hiller), An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * Gux van Sant, Psycho WORST RE-MAKE OR SEQUEL (INCLUDING FILMS BASED ON TV SHOWS) * The Avengers * Godzilla * Lost in Space * Meet Joe Black * Psycho THE JOE ESZTERHAS DIS-HONORARIAL WORST SCREENPLAY AWARD * Joe Eszterhas, An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * Jonathan Hensleigh & JJ Abrams, Armageddon * Don MacPherson, The Avengers * Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich, Godzilla * Kim Fuller (From an Idea by Fuller and the Spice Girls), Spice World WORST NEW STAR * Barney, Barney's Great Adventure * Carrot Top, Chairman of the Board * Joe Eszterhas (as himself), An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * The Spice Girls, Spice World * Jerry Springer, Ringmaster WORST \"ORIGINAL\" SONG * \"Barney, the Song,\" Barney's Great Aventure * \"I Don't Want to Miss a Thing,\" Armageddon * \"I Wanna Be Mike Ovitz!,\" An Alan Smithee Film: Burn, Hollywood, Burn! * \"Storm,\" The Avengers * \"Too Much,\" Spice World"}, {"response": 34, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (21:47)", "body": "Lemme guess: You didn't care much for The Avengers . :)"}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 8, 1999 (21:51)", "body": "Yeah, and that list is way to hard on the Spice Girls, I grabbed it off a website, it's not mine. I didn't see the Avengers, but the above isn't a great recommendation."}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (09:58)", "body": "The Oscars nominations are posted at http://www.oscar.com/ and I hear Bill Murray was robbed. Will someone volunteer to repost those here, please?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (10:00)", "body": "Never mind, I'll post them now: Actor in a Leading Role Roberto Benigni in LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL Tom Hanks in SAVING PRIVATE RYAN Ian McKellen in GODS AND MONSTERS Nick Nolte in AFFLICTION Edward Norton in AMERICAN HISTORY X Actor in a Supporting Role James Coburn in AFFLICTION Robert Duvall in A CIVIL ACTION Ed Harris in THE TRUMAN SHOW Geoffrey Rush in SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Billy Bob Thornton in A SIMPLE PLAN Actress in a Leading Role Cate Blanchett in ELIZABETH Fernanda Montenegro in CENTRAL STATION Gwyneth Paltrow in SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Meryl Streep in ONE TRUE THING Emily Watson in HILARY AND JACKIE Actress in a Supporting Role Kathy Bates in PRIMARY COLORS Brenda Blethyn in LITTLE VOICE Judi Dench in SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Rachel Griffiths in HILARY AND JACKIE Lynn Redgrave in GODS AND MONSTERS Art Direction ELIZABETH PLEASANTVILLE SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE WHAT DREAMS MAY COME Cinematography A CIVIL ACTION ELIZABETH SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE THIN RED LINE Costume Design BELOVED ELIZABETH PLEASANTVILLE SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE VELVET GOLDMINE Directing LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE THIN RED LINE THE TRUMAN SHOW Documentary Feature DANCEMAKER THE FARM: ANGOLA, U.S.A. THE LAST DAYS LENNY BRUCE: SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH REGRET TO INFORM Documentary Short Subject THE PERSONALS: Improvisations on Romance in the Golden Years A PLACE IN THE LAND SUNRISE OVER TIANANMEN SQUARE Film Editing LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL OUT OF SIGHT SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE THIN RED LINE Foreign Language Film CENTRAL STATION CHILDREN OF HEAVEN THE GRANDFATHER LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL TANGO Makeup ELIZABETH SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Original Musical or Comedy Score A BUG'S LIFE MULAN PATCH ADAMS THE PRINCE OF EGYPT SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Original Dramatic Score ELIZABETH LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL PLEASANTVILLE SAVING PRIVATE RYAN THE THIN RED LINE Original Song \"I Don't Want to Miss a Thing\" from ARMAGEDDON \"The Prayer\" from QUEST FOR CAMELOT \"A Soft Place to Fall\" from THE HORSE WHISPERER \"That'll Do\" from BABE: PIG IN THE CITY \"When You Believe\" from THE PRINCE OF EGYPT Best Picture ELIZABETH LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE THIN RED LINE Short Film\ufffdAnimated BUNNY THE CANTERBURY TALES JOLLY ROGER MORE WHEN LIFE DEPARTS Short Film\ufffdLive Action CULTURE ELECTION NIGHT (Valgaften) HOLIDAY ROMANCE LA CARTE POSTALE (The Postcard) VICTOR Sound ARMAGEDDON THE MASK OF ZORRO SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE THIN RED LINE Sound Effects Editing ARMAGEDDON THE MASK OF ZORRO SAVING PRIVATE RYAN Visual Effects ARMAGEDDON MIGHTY JOE YOUNG WHAT DREAMS MAY COME Screenplay\ufffdOriginal BULWORTH LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL SAVING PRIVATE RYAN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE THE TRUMAN SHOW Screenplay\ufffdAdaptation GODS AND MONSTERS OUT OF SIGHT PRIMARY COLORS A SIMPLE PLAN THE THIN RED LINE OK, you've got it. Now talk amongst yourselves! Oy!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (10:16)", "body": "tough choices! when are the oscars, anyway?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (10:58)", "body": "THE 71st ANNUAL ACADEMY AWARDS Airing: Sunday, March 21 [5:30 p.m. PT] What's an actress to do after she's already won just about every major award in Hollywood? Give them away, of course! Whoopi Goldberg, who counts an Oscar among her collection, proves the third time's the charm when she returns to host the 71st Annual Academy Awards. from http://www.oscar.com"}, {"response": 40, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (13:13)", "body": "and play hollywood squares!! she's a riot..."}, {"response": 41, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (13:54)", "body": "Wonderful! I loved her at the Oscars. I'm glad she's gonna do it again! I think she and Billy should alternate years."}, {"response": 42, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Feb 9, 1999 (14:09)", "body": "or do them together!!"}, {"response": 43, "author": "jgross", "date": "Mon, Mar 22, 1999 (20:26)", "body": "The 1999 version: and look, I knew this would happen, too --- Kevin Costner wins the Best Actor in a Foreign Film award (just like 2 years ago when he did it): Best Picture --- Shakespeare in Love David Parfitt, Donna Gigliotti, Harvey Weinstein, Edward Zwick and Marc Norman Directing --- Saving Private Ryan Steven Spielberg Best Actress --- Gwyneth Paltrow as Viola in SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Best Actor --- Roberto Benigni as Guido in Life is Beautiful Best Supporting Actress --- Judi Dench as Queen Elizabeth I in SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Best Supporting Actor --- James Coburn as Glen in AFFLICTION Foreign Language Film --- Life is Beautiful Italy Cinematography --- Saving Private Ryan Janusz Kaminski Original Screenplay --- Shakespeare in Love Written by Marc Norman and Tom Stoppard Screenplay-Adaptation --- Gods and Monsters Written for the screen by Bill Condon Original Song --- The Prince of Egypt \"When You Believe\" music and lyric by Stephen Schwartz Costume Design --- Shakespeare in Love Sandy Powell Visual Effects --- What Dreams May Come Joel Hynek, Joel Nicholas Brooks, Stuart Robertson and Kevin Mack Film Editing --- Saving Private Ryan Michael Kahn Original Dramatic Score --- Life is Beautiful Nicola Piovani Original Musical or Comedy Score --- Shakespeare in Love Stephen Warbeck Makeup --- Elizabeth Jenny Shircore Art Direction --- Shakespeare in Love Martin Childs:Jill Quertier Sound --- Saving Private Ryan Gary Rydstrom, Gary Summers, Andy Nelson and Ronald Judkins Sound Effects Editing --- Saving Private Ryan Gary Rydstrom and Richard Hymns Documentary Feature --- The Last Days James Moll and Ken Lipper Documentary Short Subject --- The Personals: Improvisations on Romance in the Golden Years Keiko Ibi Short Film (animated) --- Bunny Chris Wedge Short Film (live action) --- Election Night (Valgaften) Kim Magnusson and Anders Thomas Jensen Honorary Oscar --- Elia Kazan Thalberg Award --- Norman Jewison On February 27, the Academy presented Scientific and Technical Awards."}, {"response": 44, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Mar 22, 1999 (23:16)", "body": "And Jim saw every one of them."}, {"response": 45, "author": "jgross", "date": "Tue, Mar 23, 1999 (00:13)", "body": "I saw Nick Nolte, Elia Kazan, and Chris Rock having a very friendly conversation together, and fortunately none of them could figure out how to save private Ryan. Then Bunny came over and finished their conversation for them."}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 23, 1999 (10:17)", "body": "And if you really want all the gory details, from film.com: 9:29: Whoopi, in the last of her feathered gowns, says goodnight. 9:25: Harrison Ford turns up to present \"the last Oscar of the century,\" for Best Picture, to Shakespeare in Love. The final tally for the evening: Shakespeare 7; Ryan 5; Life 3. A slew of producers accept the award. The orchestra swells just as Harvey Weinstein is thanking his mom. 9:16: A bespectacled Kevin Costner presents the Best Director award to Steven Spielberg for Saving Private Ryan. He thanks everybody, and dedicates the award to his dad. 9:10: Steve Martin and Goldie Hawn, looking very cute, present the Adapted Screenplay award to Bill Condon for Gods and Monsters, and the Original Screenplay award to Marc Norman and Tom Stoppard for Shakespeare in Love. 9:04: Steven Spielberg gives a dignified tribute to director Stanley Kubrick. 8:55: Jack Nicholson presents the Best Actress award to Gwyneth Paltrow for Shakespeare in Love. She weepily thanks her fellow nominees, her director, her co-star, \"my friend Ben Affleck,\" her agent, numerous family members, and various others. 8:53: \"The sumptuous Uma Thurman\" presents the Best Cinematography award to Janusz Kaminski for Saving Private Ryan. 8:51: Whoopi Goldberg gives a brief thumbs-up tribute to Gene Siskel. 8:48: Jack Valenti arrives to introduce, rather mysteriously, great movie personality General Colin Powell, who introduces clips from Saving Private Ryan and The Thin Red Line. 8:43: Annette Bening gracefully introduces the \"In Memorium\" segment, honoring those who died this past year. Biggest applause goes to E.G. Marshall, Alan J. Pakula, Maureen O'Sullivan, Phil Hartman, Esther Rolle, Akira Kurosawa, and Roddy McDowall. (No Stanley Kubrick; perhaps he'll be honored later.) 8:40: Jennifer Lopez turns up to present the Best Song award to Stephen Schwartz for \"When You Believe\" from The Prince of Egypt. Stephen, alas, didn't bother to show up. 8:34: Catherine Zeta-Jones introduces the final nominated song, \"The Prayer,\" from Quest for Camelot, sung by Andrea Bocelli and an excessively tan Celine Dion. 8:31: Whoopi models the final nominated costume, from Shakespeare in Love, and then presents the Costume Design award to Sandy Powell for Shakespeare in Love. (Sandy, of course, looks fabulously chic.) 8:20: Oscar controversy time: Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro present the much-debated honorary Oscar to Elia Kazan. The planned protest doesn't really come off: most audience members applaud; many stand. (Nick Nolte and Ed Harris were two prominent exceptions.) A frail-looking Kazan hugs Scorsese, makes a brief speech. 8:15: Matt Damon and Ben Affleck amble in to present the documentary awards. The Documentary Short Subject award goes to The Personals: Improvisations on Romance in the Golden Years, directed by Keiko Ibi (decked out in a purple gown; rather weepy speech). The Documentary Feature award is handed out to James Moll and Ken Lipper's The Last Days. 8:10: Lisa Kudrow introduces yet another nominated song, \"That'll Do\" from Babe: Pig in the City. 8:07: Whoopi, complete with blue wig, models a costume from Velvet Goldmine. 8:00: Helen Hunt, sporting Gwyneth Paltrow-esque hair, presents the Best Actor award to Roberto Benigni, who again bows excessively and claims to have \"used up all my English.\" He manages to talk at length, regardless. Helen looks quizzical. 7:55: Val Kilmer has the unusual honor of being completely upstaged by a skittery horse, while introducing a salute to movie Westerns. 7:50: Liam Neeson presents the Best Visual Effects award to the What Dreams May Come people, who look quite grateful. 7:40: Nicolas Cage introduces Norman Jewison, recipient of the Irving Thalberg award. Following the grand tradition of Stanley Donen last year, Jewison performs a spirited dance while accepting his award. 7:35: Renee Zellweger introduces another Best Song performance, \"A Soft Place to Fall\" from The Horse Whisperer. 7:33: An emotional Jim Carrey, asserting that \"winning the Oscar is not the most important thing in the world,\" presents the Film Editing award to Michael Kahn for Saving Private Ryan. 7:25: The obligatory Oscar Technical Snafu happens during, coincidentally, Anne Heche's introduction of the Scientific and Technical Awards. (Sound problems ensue; she handles them gracefully.) 7:23: A bearded Whoopi models a men's costume from Elizabeth. 7:16: John Travolta introduces a tribute to Frank Sinatra. 7:15: Geena Davis (who's changed her outfit since the pre-show) presents Best Dramatic Score to Nicola Piovani, Life Is Beautiful. A mercifully short speech. 7:08: The obligatory fabulous Oscar Dance Number, set to the Best Dramatic Score music. Some tap, some jazz, kinda cool, but a worldwide audience just went to get a beer. 7:06: Andie McDowell and Andy Garcia present Best Musical or Comedy Score to Stephen Warbeck Shakespeare in Love 7:04: Roberto is still talking. 7:00: Sophia Loren introduces clips from"}, {"response": 47, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (00:57)", "body": "Well, I watched the Oscars and had a thoroughly good time at it. I also checked in on Harry Knowles comments during the show, as he kept reposting comments. I was happy to see American Beauty get recognition, even though Annette Benning lost. John Long will be happy that Angelina Jolie won something, I was hoping she would mention him because he always mentions her. I like seeing Salma Hayak in the preshow. She's doing something called Time Code: The Yahoo Internet Life Online Film Festival kicked off Wednesday. The big event was Wednesday night's screening of Mike Figgis' Time Code at the Director's Guild theater, which I attended. It's an all-digital multitask viewing experience \ufffd four cameras showing four vantage points, shot in a single \"live\" unbroken take."}, {"response": 48, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (00:59)", "body": "Bill Crystal lived up to expectations, he does these shows on autopilot. I thought the American Beauty score should have won, there wasn't much great movie music last year was there?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (01:00)", "body": "And Knowles comments on Angelina Jolie's award: Here comes the Supporting Actress award...Tony Collette in THE SIXTH SENSE... she's wonderful, Angelina Jolie.... nonononono... do not win. You are beautiful but please don't win. This category never goes to the right people. Catherine Keener... Wonderful... go. Samantha Morton.... PLEASE WIN!!! YOU WERE BEAUTIFUL ENTRANCING AND STUNNING!!! God I love her in SWEET AND LOWDOWN... Please win! Chloe Sevigny... what a wonderful performance. DOn'T GO TO ANGEL.... FUCK!!! GODDAMNIT! WHAT THE FUCK! Man.... sigh. Alright alright.... whatever, it's going to be one of those years! shit. She is gorgeous, but man. Sigh.... I can't hate her, it's the category... it's always screwed... How did marisa tomei win all those years ago... It's constantly fucked."}, {"response": 50, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (01:04)", "body": "Hillary Swank, the boyish looking one, got best actress. Gweneth Paltrow pressented the Best Actor Award to Kevin Spacey. Best picture American Beauty, ok."}, {"response": 51, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (01:21)", "body": "Which gowns did you like the best? (Is vulgarity of the forbidden sort common these days at the oscars? I did not watch since it was tape delayed and we heard all of the winners before the event was telecast here."}, {"response": 52, "author": "dotepp", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (01:27)", "body": "I loved the women in their dresses, turning this way and that and looking right at the camera like it couldn't eat them up but it did... I did fall asleep and woke up just before the Warren Beattie tribute which was as disturbing as any of my dreams... Now I want to see Boys Don't Cry and I'm glad I saw American Beauty and was aware of Kevin Spacey's performance. That movie blew me away. Why does everybody have to thankeverybody?"}, {"response": 53, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (01:28)", "body": "Too bad Jeremy Northam didn't win supporting actor for the Winslow Boy, and Annette Benning lost in best actress. DeForrest Kelly wasn't mentioned among the departed cuts. George Lucas was totally ignored. But then there *was* something called the Matrix. Classiest act of the night was Michael Caine, he really gave others their credit. The comment to Tom Cruise was pure, unadulterated class. (He told him that supporting actors don't make near as much and it would have got him a pay cut)."}, {"response": 54, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (08:03)", "body": "And this topic wouldn't be complete without a box score: Best Picture- AMERICAN BEAUTY Best Director- Sam Mendes, AMERICAN BEAUTY Best Actor- Kevin Spacey, AMERICAN BEAUTY Best Actress- Hillary Swank, BOYS DON'T CRY Best Supporting Actor- Michael Caine, THE CIDER HOUSE RULES Best Supporting Actress- Angelina Jolie, GIRL INTERRUPTED Best Screenplay, Adapted-John Irving, THE CIDER HOUSE RULES Best Screenplay, Original- Alan Ball, AMERICAN BEAUTY Art Direction- SLEEPY HOLLOW Cinematography- Conrad Hall, AMERICAN BEAUTY Sound- THE MATRIX Sound Effects Editing- THE MATRIX Original Score - John Corigliano, THE RED VIOLIN Original Song - \"You'll Be In My Heart\" Phil Collins Costume - TOPSY-TURVY Documentary Feature - ONE DAY IN SEPTEMBER Documentary Short - KING GIMP Film Editing - THE MATRIX Makeup - TOPSY-TURVY Short Film - MY MOTHER DREAMS THE SATAN'S DISCIPLES IN NEW YORK Animated Short Film - OLD MAN AND THE SEA Visual Effects - THE MATRIX IRVING B THALBERG AWARD went to WARREN BEATTY. Annette Bening did not give birth during the Award ceremony!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (08:09)", "body": "And the total blow by blow from film.com The Big Night It's a wrap at the Shrine Auditorium, and we give the show -- well, a solid B for effort. Things moved along snappily (although we're still not sure what Peter Coyote, giving his best impersonation of a headwaiter, was doing at that little desk), and the awards were spread out over a nice variety of films, reflecting the depth of movie offerings this year. American Beauty, as expected, won the big awards, but also well-represented were Boys Don't Cry, Topsy-Turvy, and The Matrix (which had a perfect four-for-four night). And Billy Crystal was at his relaxed best. But -- if you're going to remove the dance numbers, why replace them with interminable musical numbers and endless montages? And why bring out Isaac Hayes only to immediately cover him in smoke? On the fashion front, we liked Samuel L. Jackson's blue velvet jacket, Hilary Swank's goldish gown, and Cher's fabulously understated (for Cher) black velvet dress with a cross dangling at crotch level -- for which she apologized, saying that she had \"dressed like a grownup\" this year. Ah, well -- maybe next year. And, when last spotted, Annette Bening had still not gone into labour. All in all, a professional yet fairly uneventful evening without too many big surprises. (Blame it on the Wall Street Journal poll, which gave all the right answers.) And our favorite moment took place in the pre-show, at which Matt Stone and Trey Parker (of South Park, as if we have to tell you) unveiled their Oscar attire -- a Gwyneth Paltrow-ish pink spaghetti-strapped gown, and a Jennifer Lopez-y sheer green dress (accessorized by chest hair). Blame Canada, indeed. Just in case you missed it, here's the play-by-play as we called it; or click here for a complete list of winners. Complete List of Winners The Tally American Beauty: 5 The Matrix: 4 The Cider House Rules: 2 Topsy-Turvy: 2 All About My Mother: 1 Boys Don't Cry: 1 Girl, Interrupted: 1 Tarzan: 1 9:31: Clint Eastwood gives the Best Picture award to American Beauty. 9:27: Steven Spielberg gives the Best Director award to Sam Mendes for American Beauty. Here comes the semi-sweep? 9:20: Gwyneth Paltrow, with a bad case of bed head, gives the Best Actor award to Kevin Spacey, while Denzel Washington gallantly applauds. In his speech, he acknowledges the \"real beauty\" of American Beauty, and says he's proud to be an actor. And, for the record, says he's speechless and that he loves his mother. 9:07: Roberto Benigni runs around the stage for a while and says he'd like to be a dog, and then calms down sufficiently to present the Best Actress award to Hilary Swank for Boys Don't Cry. After smooching with hubby Chad Lowe, she gives a poised speech. 9:00: Mel Gibson presents the Best Original Screenplay award to Alan Ball, for American Beauty. He thanks, among other things, a plastic bag. 8:55: Kevin Spacey turns up to present the Best Adapted Screenplay award to John Irving for The Cider House Rules, providing us with the rare spectacle of seeing a bestselling novelist at the podium. He provides the first political moment so far, acknowledging the National Abortion Rights Action League. Go John! 8:51: Brad Pitt presents the Best Cinematography award to Conrad L. Hall for American Beauty. So, will this kick off the American Beauty sweep we kept hearing so much about? 8:32: Jack Nicholson, sporting a brush cut and a grim little mustache, gives a rambling intro to Warren Beatty, the recipient of this year's Irving G. Thalberg award. We're pleased to note that Warren's wife, Annette Bening, is still in the auditorium and not in the maternity ward. A nice standing O for Warren, who gives an equally rambling -- but very sweet -- acceptance speech. 8:28: Tommy Lee Jones and Ashley Judd, bringing back unpleasant memories of Double Jeopardy, present the Film Editing award to Zach Staenberg of The Matrix, which is pulling off a nice little technical sweep. He reads his speech from a piece of paper, and is not particularly compelling. 8:22: Julianne Moore and Russell Crowe stroll out to present the Art Direction award to Rich Heinrichs and Peter Young for Sleepy Hollow. 8:15: Edward Norton shows a remarkable lack of enthusiasm for introducing the annual \"In Memorium\" tribute to those who have died, which includes Jim Varney, Robert Bresson, Hedy Lamarr, Garson Kanin, Madeline Kahn, and George C. Scott. 8:10: Charlize Theron and Keanu Reeves present the Best Original Score Oscar to John Corigliano for The Red Violin. He says he's speechless, and then makes a gracious speech. 8:05: Antonio Banderas and Penelope Cruz (who, coincidentally, have both starred in Pedro Almodovar films) turn up to present the Best Foreign Film award to . . . Pedro Almodovar, for All About My Mother. Cruz gets really excited and jumps around, then the three have a group hug. Almodovar whips out a big piece of paper and thanks a lot of people until the music starts playing. 7:45: A rather emotional Burt Bach"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (14:07)", "body": "Hmmm...Lindy Hemming....who is she? Not that many people in the USA spell it that way - of the few families of Hemming of any ilk. Anyone know anything about her? British? (surely was the origin of her name as it was mine via the Danish invasion w a y back...) I am also not much help on the Oscar reports, except that I caught the press briefing after the entire show and Warren Beatty put me to sleep - as he usually does. My fav thing was the actress with the lime-green gown and the necklace I might kill for...Hilary Swank, was she? Looked very classy and most lovely though that color does nothing for any human I am aware of... Fell asleep again...and more than slightly put out house male turned it off and went to sleep - so did I at that point...!"}, {"response": 57, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (14:38)", "body": "I was absoulutely thrilled that \"The Red Violin\" won for Best Score. Wonderfully researched, perfect to period music, and it won! Too bad \"The Red Violin\" wasn't nominated as Best Picture. What a lousy slate of nominee's this year; the only one which deserved the nomination was \"The Sixth Sense\". But sometimes the Academy shows sense, such as, by giving the Oscar to Hilary Swank. \"Boys Don't Cry\" was a much better film than 4 of the Best Picture contenders, including the winner. The person who deserved the award won the award. That doesn't always happen. The nights best speech was easily that of Michael Caine, gracious, generous, and classy. Great speech. The worst speech was Kevin Spacey's. What a shallow, self-absorbed little ass he seemed. Such a crashing bore, or should that be boor? Spacey gave the weakest performance of all the nominee', yet he won. Oscar very often gets it wrong."}, {"response": 58, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (14:41)", "body": "I almost forgot. The evening's best fau pas was Jane Fonda stating that it was her pleasure to prevent, pause, present this award to Andrzej Wajda."}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (17:09)", "body": "At the Press Conference later, Kevin Spacey admitted he had gone blank and was just standing there in stunned numbness. I guess that is how he came across! *lol* Jane Fonda - one of my least fav people on the planet, actually..."}, {"response": 60, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Mar 27, 2000 (22:28)", "body": "Oscar-watching helicopter crashes, two injured LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A news helicopter covering the Oscars developed hydraulic problems and crashed as it tried to make an emergency landing at a nearby airport early on Monday, badly injuring the pilot and a photographer. The helicopter, an Aerospatiale A-Star owned by Fox television station KTTV, was covering the post-Oscar celebrations at the Shrine Auditorium when it developed hydraulic problems shortly after midnight, Los Angeles Fire Department spokesman Brian Humphrey said. As the 28-year-old female pilot struggled desperately to bring it under control, the helicopter flew to the nearby suburban Van Nuys airport followed by two other news choppers seeking to aid the stricken aircraft. The helicopter crashed and burst into flames on impact. Airport emergency crews, aided by crews from the other helicopters, pulled the two occupants to safety before they suffered any burns, Humphrey said. Steve Howell, who was piloting a KTLA-TV helicopter and followed the chopper, said the pilot, whose name was not released, did a tremendous job in avoiding houses and businesses as the chopper approached suburban Van Nuys airport. ``If you lose hydraulics, it's almost like losing power steering (in a car), but even worse,'' Howell said. ``It's amazing anyone could have survived this crash,'' he added. The pilot and the 40-year-old photographer, whose name was also not released, were said to be in serious but stable condition at a local hospital on Monday. The pilot fractured her right wrist and left leg. She also suffered a large gash to her head as well as pelvic trauma, a hospital spokeswoman said. The photographer suffered one, or possibly two, broken legs as well as multiple lacerations to his face."}, {"response": 61, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (04:30)", "body": "Spacey spaced out, Warren Beatty looked pale and feeble, Nicholson looked like the football coach at Fresno State (maybe a role he's doing now?), Gweneth Paltrow looked pissed off, did anyone else think the Peter Coyote newsdesk thing with him wearing a headset was a bit odd?"}, {"response": 62, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (04:32)", "body": "Did anyone else see the uttlerly sour look on Bening's face when Hilary Swank won? And I'm still waiting for an explanation on the whole blame Canada thing."}, {"response": 63, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (04:36)", "body": "Who was the improbable winner of the night? Michael Caine. There was the comment about his first acting job at 3 being to lie to the rent man about his mother not being home. The Alfie clips. Then the classiest speech every where he tributed the other nominees in fine, fine fashion."}, {"response": 64, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Mar 29, 2000 (04:44)", "body": "Take out the word \"every\" in the previous response. And substitute \"gave tribute to\" for \"tributed\". You beat someone then you make a speech elevating them and making them feel good and laugh. Did you see Tom Cruise's response. Class all the way."}, {"response": 65, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Mar 26, 2001 (09:28)", "body": "The Oscars (impressions): First impression: J Lo's form fitting top was not quite see through. J. Lo on the red carpet: Angelina Joie looked cool but I expected her to be escorted by John Long for Billy Joe Thornton. What was Danny DeVito eating? A carrot? That was funny when Steve Martin sent him down some dip from the stage. Worst dressed and worst singer: Bjork, who wore a huge, limp swan. On second thought, wasn't that Kevin Costner sitting next to Angelina Jolie? Biggest dissappointment: Joan Allen and Ellen Burstyn not winning."}, {"response": 66, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Mar 27, 2001 (00:36)", "body": "Maybe that gif will work this time."}, {"response": 67, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Mar 27, 2001 (13:42)", "body": "nope, no luck"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (20:05)", "body": "Well, I'm kicked back watching Oscars 2002 live. As I write this. Best natural looks of the night go to Renee Zellwegger and to Cameron Diaz. Gweneth Paltrow put on about 3 pounds of makeup. Whoopi is doing a great job with an outrageous costume. Jennifer Conelly got best supporting actress. Lord of the Rings just got one for best makeup, I thought that would have gone to Moulin Rouge."}, {"response": 69, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (20:57)", "body": "We get it on a tape-delay basis, as usual!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (21:02)", "body": "Blackhawk Down got one. Halle Berry presented this award for sound and sound editing. (beat out Lord of the Rings and Moulin Rouge and Pearl Harbor)."}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (21:05)", "body": "Geore Waters II and Christopher Boyes. Sound Editing. Pearl Harbor."}, {"response": 72, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (21:10)", "body": "We're half way thought the awards. Bring on the heavyweights! Supporting actor. Nominees: Jim Broadbent. Iris. Ethan Hawke. Training Day. Ben Kingsley. Sexy Beast. My pick. Ian McKellan. Lord of the Ring, Fellowship of the Ring. Jon Voight. Ali. Jim Broadbent wins. His first nomination."}, {"response": 73, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (21:25)", "body": "Special Effects. Nominees. AI. Lord of the Rings. My pick. Pearl Harbor. The Oscar goes to Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring. Jim Riegel, Randall Cook. 2200 prosthetic Hobbit feet were used in the film."}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (21:42)", "body": "Score. My guess Lord. Winner Lord."}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (21:48)", "body": "Most overdone item. Showing cuts of Will Smith and Samuel Jackson every time blacks are mentioned. Are these the only representatives of blackdom?"}, {"response": 76, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (21:51)", "body": "Now I don't have to watch it. I have 35 minutes before we see any of it."}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (23:09)", "body": "Best Actress. Hallie Berry. Monsters Ball. Judy Dench. Iris. Nicole Kidman. Moulin Rouge. Sissy Spacek. In the Bedroom. Renee Zellwegger. Bridget Jones Diary. My pick. The winner. Hallie Berry, her first."}, {"response": 78, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (23:16)", "body": "Most emotional also. Lot's of cuts to Sidney Poitier during her speech."}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (23:25)", "body": "best actor. My pick, Russell Crowe. For a Beautiful Mind. The others. Sean Penn. I am Sam. Will Smith. Ali. Denzel Washington. Training Day. Tom Wilkinson. In the Bedroom. The winner. Denzel Washington."}, {"response": 80, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (23:26)", "body": "To sum it up. It's a black sweep. Denzel, Hallie, and Sidney."}, {"response": 81, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (23:39)", "body": "Ron Howard, who directed a Beautiful Mind, won. And the Best Picture? Beautiful Mind."}, {"response": 82, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (03:20)", "body": "Hi all Wooohoooo!!!!!!!!!!! New Zealanders did well. Peter Jackson effort did not get him anything personally but it got the film 4 Oscars and a fifth went to the New Zealand director of Shrek. Rob"}, {"response": 83, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (03:21)", "body": "Hi all Doubtlessly Jackson is a happy chappy. Rob"}, {"response": 84, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (09:56)", "body": "Should I post a warning before seeing this picture of Gwenie? Definitely worst dressed. And did she borrow the Kiss makeup artist?"}, {"response": 85, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (10:00)", "body": "On the other hand, lookin' good!"}, {"response": 86, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (10:21)", "body": "Man I have to agree with you about Gwyneth. 1) did she NOT look in the mirror before leaving the house? 2) did she NOT have friends or family to prevent her from leaving the house? To pull off wearing a dress like that, you need 1) a bust, 2) good posture and...oh hell, nobody could pull off wearing that dress. It's just plain ugly."}, {"response": 87, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (10:24)", "body": "Best push up bra award: Uma Thurmond."}, {"response": 88, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (03:29)", "body": "Hi all Looks a bit pornographic does it not? Umm what was Gwyneth thinking..... Rob"}, {"response": 89, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (07:52)", "body": "Cintra Wilson has a really funny review of the Oscars at: http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/03/25/oscars_2002/index.html Major nipple spottings. Gwenyth of course. Cameron Diaz, anyone see this?"}, {"response": 90, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (11:20)", "body": "that review was great!"}, {"response": 91, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (14:11)", "body": "It's posted fully in drool. We both spotted the same provacative review."}, {"response": 92, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (16:47)", "body": "This should put the Paltrow question to bed: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020324/170/1avwc.html Redford comparison pix: this was him six years ago http://people.aol.com/people/profiles/photogallery/0,10492,105220,00.html . . . and here he was on sunday: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020325/168/1axke.html http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020325/168/1axkf.html And as for Cameron Diaz: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020325/168/1ayhj.html"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (18:48)", "body": "Caption Gwyneth's Boobies! http://www.threewayaction.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000263.html http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=he&id=1807880494&cf=pg&photoid=252135 Ian McKellin and boyfriend? in the background http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=he&id=1807880494&cf=pg&photoid=252194 http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=he&id=1807880494&cf=pg&photoid=252196 Robert Redford http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=he&id=1807880494&cf=pg&photoid=252226 Another sandwich, over here, for Mr Stapleton-Grey! http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=he&id=1807880494&cf=pg&photoid=252236 http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=he&id=1807880494&cf=pg&photoid=252238 Perky Cameron Diaz http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=he&id=1807880494&cf=pg&photoid=252239 Jody Foster in a short dress"}, {"response": 94, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (19:04)", "body": "i was wondering if that was ian's boyfriend too....at one point during the oscars, they panned over to him and that dude had his hand in ian's lap. and poor gwyneth had to have been wearing a nude tube top under that thing."}, {"response": 95, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (09:51)", "body": "Was Gwenyth Paltrow a winner in some weird, twisted sort of way. After all, she's getting attention and publicity, even if it's of a derisive sort. She and Halle Berry our garnering all the attention. So maybe this year's big winner is Gweneth Paltrow's boobs."}, {"response": 96, "author": "CherylB", "date": "Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (15:38)", "body": "My vote goes to Jennifer Lopez's hair. Did she need to get a building permit to wear that 'do? porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 89, "subject": "Spring Pledge Drive", "response_count": 324, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:34)", "body": "For the first time ever, the Spring is asking it's users to help out. You don't have to, but do it if you can. It costs $1299.00 a quarter to host the Spring servers on a T-1. Jeff Kramers charges us $250 a month for system admin work, and there is a $100 a month software fee from Armidale Software for our conferencing software. So what's that all come to? Well, if you toss in about $250 a month for misc expenses, which is probably very convservative, it's about $2600 a quarter or $1033 per month. The only income we get comes from website developement and our only website currently paying is childrenstory/tvpc which pays about $600 - $1000 per quarter, some of which goes to a web authoress. So, if you can, sen dyour contibution to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 You can do it anonymous or opening. Contributors will be sent some kind of memonto like a Spring mug, a hat, or something to express our gratitude. I'll link this into drool also."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:38)", "body": "Our T-1 fee is due 7/31/98, so that's why I'm starting this now. No contribution will be too small or insignificant."}, {"response": 3, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (15:59)", "body": "Terry, I shall be glad to contribute (tax deductible?...you are non-profit). However, I have no objection to adverts. Geocities pays a lot of the websites' real estate.If you polled the members, I doubt many would object;. and that would relieve the fund- raising."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (16:10)", "body": "We're not non-profit, yet. But I'll look in to this status. Obviously, we should qualify. And I'm open to adverts."}, {"response": 5, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (16:15)", "body": "Will do as soon as my painting money comes in, Terry."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (16:31)", "body": "Thank you! Thank you!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "heide", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (17:45)", "body": "This is the address that I read, Terry: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 I just wanted to make sure that no letters got dropped. Glad to help."}, {"response": 8, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (18:47)", "body": "I'd [refer to hand deliver mine... still working on that ticket... *growl*"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (21:36)", "body": "Thanks Heide, that address is correct."}, {"response": 10, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (22:05)", "body": "Ok, I give up. Why am I unable to forget this Topic? I have saved the Address and have no need to continue seeing new messages, but it won't let me Forget!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "Nan11", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (22:43)", "body": "I don't know, honey :-( I'm having the same problem with other topics...and the mark everything as read..."}, {"response": 12, "author": "Charlotte", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (22:51)", "body": "OH goodie! I'm not braindead, after all! *kiss*"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (05:39)", "body": "That sometimes happens when the system has a date glitch, like when the date changes to 2036 or something. I reset the date yesterday."}, {"response": 14, "author": "cherylq", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (07:54)", "body": "Will do."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (07:02)", "body": "From Jonathon Langley today, $486 for some web work I did for him on http://www.tvpc.com and http://www.childrenstory.com Does anyone have ideas for new children's stories or illustrations for existing, legendary children's story? What stories are we missing?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (07:09)", "body": "Pledge Address: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Checks made out to \"The Spring\""}, {"response": 17, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (09:06)", "body": "Thanks so much to Evelyn for here most generous contribution which arrived in yesterday's mail! Thank you so much Evelyn. It really helps."}, {"response": 18, "author": "lafn", "date": "Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (09:06)", "body": "Thank you so much Evelyn My pleasure, Terry. We have a great gang on Drool. (Even when we're fighting) :-) Led by our outstanding host, Nan!! Thanks , Doll!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 7, 1998 (10:36)", "body": "total to date $150 We're a fourth of the way to our goal of raising $600 to make our fourth quarter internet access payment. Send to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 payable to Paul Terry Walhus or The Spring And thanks to Karen for the note and check received yesterday!"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (19:55)", "body": "We got some great contributions from some North Country folks, ya know. Ya! A very hearty Spring thank you to Ann Haker and to Kathleen Born for their very kind and generous donations to the pledge drive. Ann is from Minneapolis and Kathleen is from Eagan, MN."}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (20:06)", "body": "Summary to date (9/1 - 11/30/98 budget) income 265.00 contributions 600.00 tvpc.com website 865.00 total income expense 1,299.00 ddc.net T-1 connection for our servers 750.00 Jeff Kramer system administration 300.00 Armidale Software Yapp software license 450.00 Hardware expenses 2,799.00 total expense (1,934.00) net operating loss"}, {"response": 22, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (10:39)", "body": "I haven't forgotten you either, Terry. Just still waiting for my money to come in, so I can send you a donation. Unfortunately my buyer has 3 months to pay, so just be patient."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (13:36)", "body": "No problem, and thanks! I have an idea on the domain name suggestions. If you make a suggestion, I'll co-register it in your name as the owner and if we sell it, the Spring will split the returns 50/50 with the person who is the name co-owner."}, {"response": 24, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (03:46)", "body": "Not acceptable - that's not fair. What would be fair is if you told us all how to register, and we share our returns 50/50 with the Spring. And the names that are registered by the Spring should only earn money for the Spring. If we register names, splitting it 50/50 would still earn us money that we would not have had otherwise, plus it would earn the Spring extra money on top of the money it earns from registering its own names. Taking money from the Spring is unfair, as the Spring is working at a l ss, and is unemployed(!!) - unlike those who log in every day. If us users can't however register extra names ourselves, then coming up with them is the least we can do - the Spring should not have to split money with US to induce us to help. Because then we're a greedy bunch of parasites who should not be here, but pimping off people within our reach."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (07:55)", "body": "Fair enough. I was just trying to provide incentive for folks to help dream up some domain names. And website ideas. artcafe.com is gone. So is sportscafe.com."}, {"response": 26, "author": "riette", "date": "Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (09:45)", "body": "It's enough incentive that we're allowed to be here in the first place. I think we would all like to keep the Spring going. And besides..... THE WALHUS IS OUR MASTER...WE HAVE BEEN CHOSEN"}, {"response": 27, "author": "autumn", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (13:19)", "body": "I AM THE WALHUS--KOOKOOAJOOB..."}, {"response": 28, "author": "riette", "date": "Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (15:41)", "body": "ha-ha!!!!"}, {"response": 29, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (06:11)", "body": "Can you charge to credit cards, terry? I was thinking of dumping my WELL account, which would mean that I could divert my $15 a month your direction. Let me know."}, {"response": 30, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (08:24)", "body": "We sure can! That's awesome, Mike."}, {"response": 31, "author": "nan", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (10:52)", "body": "Hey Mike! When did you get back?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "riette", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (11:28)", "body": "How does one do that, Terry? The thing with the credit card? Because I've also been trying to figure out how to send a contribution."}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (11:34)", "body": "We'll set up a page for this as part of the Spring Store. We need to develop our commerce section so we can sell websites, local internet access and process contributions via credit card."}, {"response": 34, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (11:36)", "body": "For now, the best way is to send a check made out to the Spring to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek TX 78612"}, {"response": 35, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (16:30)", "body": "Didja get it yet, Terry??"}, {"response": 36, "author": "Allison2", "date": "Sat, Sep 19, 1998 (05:24)", "body": ""}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Sep 20, 1998 (23:21)", "body": "Not yet. I wonder what happened?"}, {"response": 38, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (21:08)", "body": "(*sigh*) Guess I'll have to do some detective work..."}, {"response": 39, "author": "riette", "date": "Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (21:55)", "body": "I don't have a check account. How embarrassing. I'll wait till the credit card thing is set up, and send a monthly contribution like Mike."}, {"response": 40, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (16:28)", "body": "Hehhee...my financial situation is rather more dire than i had thought. how would $10 a month do for the moment? :)) if you want to sort this out, terry, call me: 6pm-11pm GMT (austin is 6/7 hours behind?) +44 1273 727157"}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (16:45)", "body": "That would be awesome, Mike! Anything anyone can do within their limits is a help. Or help with revenue generating projects can be something you can do, like helping with sysadmin work (like wer does), developing new sites, etc. I never want it to be where anyone feels obligated or where there's any barrier to entry. I want it to be free and open, but the bills still come in and we have to be innovative in figuring out ways to pay them."}, {"response": 42, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 22, 1998 (21:57)", "body": "yeah...like work at a restaurant and send him and/or his roomies gift certificates..."}, {"response": 43, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (14:14)", "body": "I'm happy to work on sysadm stuff, terry"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (14:27)", "body": "Great, let's discuss it in depth in the projects conference. I posted some things there today."}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (12:26)", "body": "It's Pledge Drive time again. I'm hustling real hard this week to raise $400 to pay ddc.net for our connection. I have had several balloon mortgage payments wihc have laid me flat, and the outlook is good around the beginning of next month, but right now I'm scrapping along. The folks of drool have been great about helping support this community and I'm very thankful for all the help you have given. I've been meaning to put together an appreciation page with acknowledgements and will do so someday soon. If you have it in your heart (and pocketbook) to contribute, please send donations to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr. Austin, TX 78758 Make checks out to either me or The Spring. And, by way of appreciation, I've opened a new http://www.jeremynorth.com domain and am looking for volunteers to help run it and build it!"}, {"response": 46, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (19:32)", "body": "Do not take plastic yet, Terry? If not, check is in the mail. Not a big sum, but one of several as I can. We need this place!!!"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (09:52)", "body": "No plastic yet, it's coming, and thank you so much!"}, {"response": 48, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (15:48)", "body": "Ok, Terry, it is in the mail. Let me know when/if you get it =)"}, {"response": 49, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (10:36)", "body": "Thanks Marcia! Send in those contributions folks, in our hour of need. Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758 make checks payable to me or to The Spring"}, {"response": 50, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "Oh Terry - Must I stop payment on this check? I sent it to the other address you gave - Route whatever Box something. Will that get it to you?"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (23:17)", "body": "It should get to me ok. Thanks again."}, {"response": 52, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (01:30)", "body": "I think I am going to make a pointed comment on one of \"my\" two (or both) Drool topics. If I can spare the money surely they can too. If this shut down, there would be a whole group of clever ladies longing to exchange ideas with like-minded souls and have no place to go. I read where you are a one-man band in the financial department, and it should not be that way. Not from all of the enjoyment we get from your efforts. The least we can do is help support your efforts."}, {"response": 53, "author": "Jana2", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (01:35)", "body": "Terry, I'll drop a check in the mail tomorrow or Tuesday. Thanks for keeping the Spring going for all of us to enjoy!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (11:44)", "body": "Thanks so much Marcia and Jana!"}, {"response": 55, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (02:07)", "body": "Terry, it's 2036 again. Can you reset the date?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb 7, 2036 (03:29)", "body": "Ok Terry, I wrote 3 epistles to the devout in Springfolks (our private Droolian BBS) and asked them to please donate toward their own well-being. Thanks for all those who have given so far - I am not satisfied that all are doing their share."}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (19:23)", "body": "We're back from the future. Peter, our peripatetic whiz kid from Georgia Tech is in town and is busily tweaking our server right now. We just went from 99.9% full on disk space to 78% full. It makes a huge performance difference. You can thank Peter by emailing him a kind word at peter@diff.net. He's a great volunteer helper. And again, much thanks for the donations and contributions sent to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758"}, {"response": 58, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "Sent him a Mahalo Nui Loa from Hilo. Thanks for telling us about it!"}, {"response": 59, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (21:03)", "body": "Terry, can you handle checks in foreign currency? I have a lady in Australia who wants to contribute."}, {"response": 60, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (23:40)", "body": "Sure, we'll find a way. The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758 Thanks. Thanks. Thanks!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (16:19)", "body": "Terry, your Email @spring.net has been bouncing for three days. Just to reassure potential donors, You will not and do not sell our Snail-mail addreses, do you? I said you did not."}, {"response": 62, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (18:48)", "body": "Absolutely not!!! No way will I sell the emails of the members of this wonderful community. Not even an option. Nah gonna doit. I do, however, occasionally send out a groupmail to folks announcing a pledge drive or to try and drum up interest. This is available to conference hosts, if they like."}, {"response": 63, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (18:51)", "body": "Never mind = it is my ISP. It bounces them and sends them at the same time. How very clever of them..."}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (18:56)", "body": "Thanks for the confirmation here in Drool. There are still some very sincere lurkers who have heard nightmare tales of spamming and worse but would like to contribute to Spring's continuation. Good Luck, Terry, and thanks to everyone who cares enough to do something to help!"}, {"response": 65, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 25, 1999 (20:25)", "body": "Thanks! Send contributions to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 9011 Quail Creek Dr Austin, TX 78758"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (12:45)", "body": "Thanks so much to the four folks who have sent a combined total of nearly $200.00. Our goal is $400 a quarter. Soon, we'll be putting up an appreciation page thanking all those who have contributed (unless, of course, they specify that they want to remain anonymous). These folks have done so much to help us along. Another way you can help is to sign up for your own \"briefcase\"; the Spring has just beomce an affiliate with Visto and they offer a wonderful web based application that let's you keep track of your calendar, files, photos. email, address book, tasks, bookmarks, events, family, friends and co-workers. It will be a great help to you and your group. And every time someone signs up, the Spring will get $2.00. So this is a way you can help yourself and help the community. Please sign up and make your contribution that way! You can click on this banner to get started. SRC=\" http://service.bfast.com/bfast/serve/mid1291956?siteid=5325183&bfpag e=home\" BORDER=\"0\" WIDTH=\"1\" HEIGHT=\"1\" NOSAVE > HREF=\"http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1291956?siteid=5325183&bfpag e=home\" TARGET=\"_top\"> SRC=\"http://www.visto.com/affiliate/banners/tab_getvisto.gif \" BORDER=\"0\" WIDTH=\"468\" HEIGHT=\"60\">"}, {"response": 67, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 1, 1999 (16:40)", "body": "I've just put up a page thanking our contributors at http://www.spring.net/sponsors Thanks to all these folks who have donated a total of over $1,200 since January 1, 1999. Ann Haker Ann Whittle Barbara Farley Charlotte Clayton Claire Chan Eileen Green Evelyn Boake Genette Irlbeck Gisela Sardinha Heide Kalbach Jana Hendricks Kathleen Born Lizza Davies Maarit Helena Doinio Marcia Hemming Nancy Palmarini Stacey Vura T McAvoy Willem Friesema If I've left anyone off the list, my apologies. One or two letters were lost in the mails. Overall we're nearly on target to our goal of $4,800 a year which is the cost of colocating our three servers (barton, www and access) on a T-3 connection in downtown Austin. Thanks so much to everyone who's helping and to those who are signing up for Visto via our link."}, {"response": 68, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (01:45)", "body": "THANKS!!!"}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (10:22)", "body": "Don't forget to sign up your dog and cat (and goldfish) for Visto too!"}, {"response": 70, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (13:20)", "body": "Terry, please fix whatever was messed up when the Visto icon was added to Drool's pages. We are seeing the date, time, poster's name and email within the body of the response. Very ugly. Disturbs my keen sense of esthetics! ;-D"}, {"response": 71, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (13:35)", "body": "good point...I'll ditch them and start over..."}, {"response": 72, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Jul 9, 1999 (13:41)", "body": "all better yet?"}, {"response": 73, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Aug 11, 1999 (22:31)", "body": "Must be, Dear! No one has complained in over a month. Droolians are not that tolerant, normally =)"}, {"response": 74, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (09:41)", "body": "I am not even taking that bait...*wink*"}, {"response": 75, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (19:24)", "body": "*smile* You are wise!"}, {"response": 76, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Aug 14, 1999 (00:44)", "body": "occasionally, I get lucky..."}, {"response": 77, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 14, 1999 (10:29)", "body": "*smiling knowingly* I am glad to hear it."}, {"response": 78, "author": "Renata", "date": "Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (02:00)", "body": "Only now I read your message closely: (Terry) One or two letters were lost in the mails. Does that mean you never got a letter from me? Never got any kind of confirmation. Terry, I would like to know before I send off another one."}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (20:28)", "body": "I got yours, fortunately, and I am getting them reliably now. I really appreciate your contribution!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (20:38)", "body": "Mine will be in the mail to you tomorrow as well as one for Stacey's efforts in the Honolulu Marathon for the Lukemia Society. These checks are my Christmas present to me from me...and to you *grin*"}, {"response": 81, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (13:48)", "body": "Thanks so much to all those folks who have contributed to our latest fund drive. We are now accepting contributions on Paypal on the site: http://www.spring.net/paypal This has been a great effort and I can't thank everyone enough. As a small token, I'm sending out a picture of the Spring's Cedar Creek location, a nature picture or something, to the next 13 folks who send in a $25 or more donation. I sent out two already today to the nice folks from Cinncinnati and Lansdale, PA who contributed via Paypal."}, {"response": 82, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sat, Dec 2, 2000 (17:57)", "body": "A huge thank you and lots of hugs for the wonderful people of drool who put up at least 80% of the funds we needed to keep our software running! This was a great effort and is very, very appreciated!"}, {"response": 83, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Dec 7, 2000 (21:30)", "body": "I just paid $199 to our host for extra bandwith for austen.com, if you're a supporter of austen.com and want to help in some way with this cost, please click on this link and send $5 automatically to spring.net just for signing up (it won't cost you anything). https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=terry%40spring.net Or you can send contributions the old fashioned way to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Don't worry about this though, I just cut a deal with our provider to charge (in the future months) for a flat $40 a month for this bandwidth. austen.com uses a lot of disk space, which is ok, and I've covered this for the future. Again, my hearty thanks for everyone who supported our recent drive to pay Kaylene Thaler. I fully understand if you haven't caught your breath from this effort, but am hoping just joining PayPal and getting $5 to the Spring will be an easy way to cover this disk charge. All I need is for 40 folks to sign up . . ."}, {"response": 84, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Dec 7, 2000 (22:04)", "body": "Most austen.com people don't come here, Terry. Ann has put a fund-raising notice up at her place with the PayPal clickthru."}, {"response": 85, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Dec 8, 2000 (07:46)", "body": "Thanks, Karen. You have helped immeasurably in this effort."}, {"response": 86, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Dec 8, 2000 (08:14)", "body": "I had nothing to do with Ann's action. She did it herself."}, {"response": 87, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 29, 2001 (23:48)", "body": "Time to renew our drive, I had over $1,000 in bills from our old provider last month, which is why I'm moving all the sites to a new provider where it will be less than $400 a month. Use the paypal link on http://www.spring.net or send checks to: Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Please indicate what you are supporting (eg. austen, firth, bjd, or spring). I got 3 great contributions this weekend. Thanks!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (10:59)", "body": "We need to do a mini-pledge drive right now to catch up on some isp charges and some consulting. So if you can, go to our main page at http://www.spring.net and chip in whatever you can! Thanks. You can contribute via paypal or mail to The Spring, 182 Clover Rd, Cedar Creek, TX 78612. Checks made out to the Spring."}, {"response": 89, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 20, 2001 (11:26)", "body": "In a normal month, I would have funds on the 15th to cover our server costs. This month is different because I have to pay property taxes on my house and all my salary and rental income etc. has to go to that. So I have to raise $300 pretty quickly to pay our server hosting fee. I need your help this month more than ever. After 60 days, the pressure will be off again, but now I particularly need your help and donations. Please use the Paypal donate button on our main page or mail checks to The Spring, 182 Clover Rd, Cedar Creek, TX 78612. I'm 5 days overdue on this server bill but I think they'll cut me a little more slack on it."}, {"response": 90, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 20, 2001 (13:24)", "body": "https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?return=http%3A//www.spring.net/paypal&item_name=Contribution+to+austen%2C+drool%0D%0Aor+Spring&submit.x=17&submit.y=17&business=terry%40spring.net&item_number=3&no_intl=1&cmd=_xclick"}, {"response": 91, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Aug 20, 2001 (14:05)", "body": "I'm sending you my check this afternoon, Terry. Pl. credit Drool, and check your email."}, {"response": 92, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Aug 20, 2001 (14:11)", "body": "Terry, Drool's annual fund-raising drive will again be held in September. Evelyn and I will be helping Terry in the meantime. If people would like to contribute now, please contact me for instructions. I don't put my address up on public boards. However, I will be doing the collection again on behalf of this community, as Ann H did very recently with her austen.com group. In addition, I will be making arrangements for funds to be collected with the UK too as well as other countries. Thanks"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 20, 2001 (16:00)", "body": "Thanks so much Karen and Evelyn! I'm working on my end on getting some DVD prg\bograms going and trying as many ways as I can to alleviate the situation. In correspondence with KarenR!"}, {"response": 94, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (10:09)", "body": "Starting today, we're going to have four quarterly fund raising drives to pay our isp bills, make improvements, do backups and expand and add new features (faster server with bigger hard drives, etc). The pledge drives will be held on October 1-15, 2001 January 1-15, 2002 April 1-15, 2002 July 1-15, 2002 The goal of the current pledge drive is to pay all or a good portion of the $900 per quarter hosting fees we pay, plus another $600 to initiate a schedule of full backups to our server and an emergency preparedness plan. This quarter 25% of all donations will go to the newly established college fund for children of the survivors of the World Trade Center attack. Send your checks to: The Spring 182 Clover Road Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Use these logos to sign up (if you aren't a Paypal member and to make donations): If you want to send your donations to Ann or Karen directly, and have them forward them to me, that's fine. Ann has handled this extremely well in the past and that way I can track which site they're earmarked for. This pledge drive includes Spring, Drool, Firth and Austen. Thanks! Your contributions have been generous in the past and have kept this place rolling along. We hope to be secure, safe and more robust in the future as a website where you can freely express your thoughts and feelings and honor your heroes."}, {"response": 95, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 10, 2001 (09:56)", "body": "Resp 94 of 94: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (10:09) 52 lines Starting today, we're going to have four quarterly fund raising drives to pay our isp bills, make improvements, do backups and expand and add new features (faster server with bigger hard drives, etc). The pledge drives will be held on October 1-15, 2001 January 1-15, 2002 April 1-15, 2002 July 1-15, 2002 The goal of the current pledge drive is to pay all or a good portion of the $900 per quarter hosting fees we pay, plus another $600 to initiate a schedule of full backups to our server and an emergency preparedness plan. This quarter 25% of all donations will go to the newly established college fund for children of the survivors of the World Trade Center attack. Send your checks to: The Spring 182 Clover Road Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Use these logos to sign up (if you aren't a Paypal member and to make donations): target=\"_blank\"> ALT=\"Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!\" width=\"468\" height=\"60\"> METHOD=\"POST\"> VALUE=\" http://www.spring.net/paypal\" > drool or Spring\"> SRC=\" http://images.paypal.com/images/x-click-but7.gif \" NAME=\"submit\" ALT=\"Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!\" width=\"72\" height=\"29\" align=\"center\">"}, {"response": 96, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 11, 2001 (09:33)", "body": "Nothing in yet, my isp bill is overdue. I encourage folks to contribute someting, no matter how small. Thanks!"}, {"response": 97, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (07:33)", "body": "Still no donations on the current quarterly Pledge Drive, I'm going to get on the email and the phone and try to drum up some support."}, {"response": 98, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (10:46)", "body": "Terry, I give yearly and send it to Karen. Would you like for me to break up my donation in quarters?That's a lot of trouble for her to handle the drive four times a year though.Esp with the friends in overseas. And how about letting us know the total amount that is collected by Drool? I know the Tea Room amount was posted last year.*Total* is not invading anybody's privacy. We need a little structure, IMO."}, {"response": 99, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Oct 13, 2001 (22:32)", "body": "It's wonderful that you give annually, and I'm most appreciative. No need to split it up in quarters! I got the first donation of this drive today, $50, which is one sixth of the way to paying this months hosting charges of $296.00. That's a start! I'd like to see the load spread out among more folks, and not weighing so heavily on myself and a few others. I'm encouraged by today's Paypal contribution. If you would like to give, please click the Paypal button to \"donate\" at http://www.spring.net . Or send check payable to The Spring to: The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 I sent a $12.50 check to the college fund for WTC survivors today, a fourth of the contribution I received."}, {"response": 100, "author": "EileenG", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (16:26)", "body": "Guess my donation from the summer counted toward last quarter. :-/"}, {"response": 101, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (16:26)", "body": "Yup, you're counted."}, {"response": 102, "author": "Allison2", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (17:59)", "body": "sent mine to Tracy. Hope it arrived."}, {"response": 103, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (18:15)", "body": "I'll be checking with Tracy tomorrow to see how her collection effort is going."}, {"response": 104, "author": "Becka", "date": "Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (22:41)", "body": "I'll be sending something via PayPal shortly as well (as I'm in Canada) - depending on whether I've line up work in the next few weeks (fingers crossed). This site has been a great way to pass time while off and deserves all the support it can get."}, {"response": 105, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 22, 2001 (09:37)", "body": "Not doing too well this pledge drive. One $50 check received, another lost check in the mail, no paypal contributions yet. No where near the goal of paying the hosting fees for this month of $296, and no where close to the $888 hosting cost for the quarter, and I'm hoping to raise enough to start backing up this system as part of an emergency preparedness plan. Please mail contributions to The Spring (Firth, Drool and Austen) 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Or just click the Paypal Donate button at http://www.spring.net or any of the other sister websites."}, {"response": 106, "author": "Tracy", "date": "Sun, Oct 28, 2001 (15:20)", "body": "Attention UK donators - just to let you know, and you know who you are, the final total is \ufffd120 and I've sent it off by PayPal this evening."}, {"response": 107, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sun, Oct 28, 2001 (17:30)", "body": "Thanks Tracy...good to hear from you; we miss you :-((( And thanks to the UK friends who are helping to make Spring possible:-)))"}, {"response": 108, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 28, 2001 (18:53)", "body": "I got it, thanks so much Tracy! I got it via Paypal a few hours ago. I am most appreciative!"}, {"response": 109, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (09:31)", "body": "Hey Terry. I sent a donation through paypal the other day. Did you get it? Just want to make sure. Thanks, Liz oh, btw, I have changed email addresses. How do I change it here, so when you rollover my user name it gives the right one? I can't figure it out."}, {"response": 110, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (09:34)", "body": "Got it Liz, thanks so much! It came through on November 8th, and big thank yous to Tuquyen, Trina, Hayoun, Philip, Annabella, Tracy T, Patricia, and Marcia!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (09:47)", "body": "Terry, those newest ones (beginning 5) are from austen.com. Either you should be thanking them personally or have Ann do it. Liz, to change your email address, click on Main Menu at the bottom of the screen here, then go to \"View/Modify Preferences.\" It should be self-explanatory from that point on. When you hit submit, it may not look like the change has been taken because of the error notice you get, but it will be ok."}, {"response": 112, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (10:02)", "body": "I will be sending out notes and be making some thank you calls. I'll have to look in to that error notice thing."}, {"response": 113, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (10:40)", "body": "I'll have to look in to that error notice thing. No need. The changes go through. I'd rather have you work on that *other* thing."}, {"response": 114, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Nov 13, 2001 (11:32)", "body": "great! glad you got it. I've felt very guilty about not giving till now. thanks, Karen! I'll do that right now."}, {"response": 115, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 14, 2002 (20:13)", "body": "Our bandwidth is off the charts. Our current account with our bandwidth provider allows for 50GB of monthly data transfer. For the month of March, our bandwidth total was 165GB, which is an overage of 115GB. Our bandwidth provider's pricing for bandwidth overage is $3 per GB. Using this formula, an amount of $345 is owed on our account. I have negotiated this down to $50 this month, but in the future we may have to order one of these plans, probably the 100 gb or 200 gb extra, which means we may have to do a special pledge drive in about a month, based on our bandwidth usage. 100GB extra: $100 per month 200GB extra: $200 per month 300GB extra: $300 per month"}, {"response": 116, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 19, 2002 (07:48)", "body": "This is turning in to an extremely tough time financially for me, since I invested heavily in backup systems and am facing increasing bandwidth costs due to the popularity of our site. So I need your help now more than ever before. Please send donations to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 182 Clover Rd. Cedar Creek, TX 78612 or Click on the \"Paypal Donation\" link in the left column of http://www.spring.net Or click directly here: Paypal Donation If you haven't signed up for PayPal, you have to sign up here: Sign up for Paypal Thanks! Your support is really needed at this time."}, {"response": 117, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Apr 19, 2002 (07:57)", "body": "I hear ya' Terry...check's in the mail. Viva Drool!"}, {"response": 118, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Apr 19, 2002 (08:05)", "body": "Thanks so much Evelyn! This will really help."}, {"response": 119, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 19, 2002 (13:02)", "body": "Thanks for linking this to Geo. You will be hearing from me, as usual. Paypal is the least painful way to do it, and you don't even need to figure out the postage!"}, {"response": 120, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 19, 2002 (13:07)", "body": "Lest anyone in Geo wonder, Terry created this space we use on the internet. For ages he supported it all by himself. That became burdensome quickly when the lot of us happened along to create our own conferences and so on which required added bandwidth and server capabilities. Contribute what you can, please! I think Geo is worth a little of your time and where-with-all. Mahalo nui loa."}, {"response": 121, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Sat, Apr 20, 2002 (03:00)", "body": "Hi all What about from afar. I got some spare cash? I won't make it much because the exchange rate does not favour me (NZ$2.30 to US$1 - quite low for NZ)."}, {"response": 122, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 20, 2002 (04:57)", "body": "Everything, near and far, helps! Thanks Rob."}, {"response": 123, "author": "cascadeclimber", "date": "Sat, Apr 20, 2002 (10:22)", "body": "I'd love to contribute a bit. It won't be much though. I have been helping my parents out because Dad got layed off from his job a few weeks ago for the second time.*sigh* But every little bit counts. I love Geo and we certainly can't let anything happen to it!"}, {"response": 124, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 20, 2002 (15:49)", "body": "Thanks a bunch Julie!"}, {"response": 125, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 20, 2002 (16:43)", "body": "Hang in there, students and struggling professionals. Don't feel guilty about being here - your present contributions of words is perfect. People like me will try to cover all of those who are where we were a long time ago."}, {"response": 126, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 3, 2002 (12:30)", "body": "Keep 'em coming, I'm just a wee bit shy of what I need to make this month's bandwidth payment. Paylink link at http://www.spring.net"}, {"response": 127, "author": "SBRobinson", "date": "Fri, May 3, 2002 (12:34)", "body": "am sending check - watch your mail... :-)"}, {"response": 128, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 3, 2002 (12:41)", "body": "Thank you!!!"}, {"response": 129, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, May 16, 2002 (07:17)", "body": "Our Paypal \"bank\" account is sitting at $253.62, thanks to a generous $100 contribution from Marci yesterday, so we're about $100 short of being able to make our $320 a month bandwidth payment. So, please, keep the Paypal contributions coming in so I can make this payment before the end of the month. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?return=http%3A//www.spring.net/paypal&item_name=Contribution+to+austen%2C+drool%0D%0Aor+Spring&submit.x=80&submit.y=32&business=terry%40spring.net&item_number=3&no_intl=1&cmd=_xclick or Mail to: Terry Walhus The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Thanks to everyone who's made a contribution!"}, {"response": 130, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 17, 2002 (08:34)", "body": "We're 76.38 away from being able to make our bandwidth payment! Three or four $25 Paypal contributions would do it. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?return=http%3A//www.spring.net/paypal&item_name=Contribution+to+austen%2C+drool%0D%0Aor+Spring&submit.x=80&submit.y=32&business=terry%40spring.net&item_number=3&no_intl=1&cmd=_xclick"}, {"response": 131, "author": "kasey", "date": "Fri, May 17, 2002 (18:27)", "body": "Terry, I've just joined PayPal and sent a contribution (I hope). If it doesn't come through please let me know. I've been lurlking long enough that I feel I'm definitely responsible for some of that huge bandwidth usage. Although, now that I think of it, it's really ODB who's responsible. Who told him to be so fascinating anyway???"}, {"response": 132, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, May 17, 2002 (19:30)", "body": "terry, i hope you received my donation too. please let me know if not. if you do, no need to post it here, thanks *HUGS*"}, {"response": 133, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, May 17, 2002 (19:58)", "body": "I'll let both of you know as soon as I receive something, thanks!"}, {"response": 134, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 21, 2002 (14:41)", "body": "I made this payment today to our bandwidth provider: Date Service/Transaction Description Amount Jun 16, 2002 Fast Start Server -- Ongoing fee from Jun 16, 2002 to Jul 15, 2002 295.00 Jun 16, 2002 Harddrive Upgrade -- Ongoing fee from Jun 16, 2002 to Jul 15, 2002 25.00 Previous balance: 0.00 Amount due: 320.00 So, we're good till July 15th and we have $215.33 in our account which we can use today the July August payment. Thanks a bunch to wolf, marci and Kathleen!"}, {"response": 135, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 5, 2002 (07:08)", "body": "Just got this months bill for $320 for bandwidth. The overbilled us and didn't credit us for last month (which I paid), so I'm getting this straightened out. Send contributions, as usual, to Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 You can also send them to KarenR or Ann H and they'll forward them to me. Or you can click the Paypal button and use this method, it's on the top left of http://www.spring.net If you're buying Colin Firth DVD's, please buy them via the new link at http://www.spring.net , you'll see it midway down in the left column. There are over 30 Firth DVDs to choose from on this Amazon affiliate page."}, {"response": 136, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 5, 2002 (07:09)", "body": "Buy Colin Firth DVDs"}, {"response": 137, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 5, 2002 (07:12)", "body": "Make Paypal Donation Sign up for Paypal if you're not yet a member"}, {"response": 138, "author": "freddie", "date": "Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (05:56)", "body": "Terry, Could I recommend that the link for buying the CF DVD's be put onto the Drool mainpage? I must admit, I go directly to that site when I come to The Spring and I bet a lot of others do too and will miss that as an opportunity to help raise some much needed funds."}, {"response": 139, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (08:10)", "body": "I sent that to Karen R for possible incorporation. I wonder what the volume of dvd buying is among folks in this conference? There are about 30 Firth DVDs listed on this page. Direct contributions have always been our mainstay, a lot of the programs like amazon.com only payoff if large numbers of folks use them and we are able to meet minimum sales quotas."}, {"response": 140, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 13, 2002 (05:24)", "body": "Our current account with our bandwidth provider allows for 50GB of monthly data transfer.. For the month of May, our bandwidth total was 95GB, which is an overage of 42GB. Their pricing for bandwidth overage is $3 per GB. Using this formula, an amount of $126 is owed on our account. As a courtesy, they are only going to charge our account $50 for this overage. In the future, however, they will need to charge us for the bandwidth we use. We also have the option of pre-purchasing bandwidth at the following discounted rates. 100GB extra: $100 per month 200GB extra: $200 per month 300GB extra: $300 per month At present we owe the regular flat rate $320 plus this $50 or $370.00. I have about $100 in the account from last months contributions so I'm trying to raise about $270 for this month and some toward a potential bandwidth overage next month. I'd like to prepay to 100 gb extra and save something possibly."}, {"response": 141, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 14, 2002 (09:22)", "body": "Thanks for the $20 paypal contribution I just received. I won't mention the name because I haven't asked the contributor. But thanks! We really need contributions right now."}, {"response": 142, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 17, 2002 (11:57)", "body": "We are about $270 short of paying our bandwidth bill this month, so this is the amount I have to raise. I'm toying around with the idea of getting 12 people to commit to one month each during the year and insure the bandwidth payment for that month. I'm extremely strapped this month so I'm counting on contributions to make up our shortage in the bank to make the payment and keep the system alive. Ideas? Suggestions on fund raising? Again, the Paypal link is at the bottom of the spring's main page."}, {"response": 143, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (06:05)", "body": "Keep those contributions coming, please. Your contributions make these pages possible, click the Paypal banner on Spring.net's main page."}, {"response": 144, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (09:15)", "body": "I've put up (and linked all over the place) a new webpage at The Bucket called The Marketplace (or should it be called The Bucket Boutique???), where there are direct links for all of Colin's tapes, DVD, related books, etc. (plus related items) to purchase from Amazon. Using these links, Spring will earn some money. If there are other items you'd like added or would like me to create the direct link for you, just let me know. Now, start shopping!! ;-D"}, {"response": 145, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (10:00)", "body": "Thank you Karen. Will Spring get credit for *all* Amazon products purchased through The Marketplace? I just ordered a \"non-Firth\" book;-))"}, {"response": 146, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (14:11)", "body": "If they have the Spring code in the url (which you can do yourself very easily), then Spring gets the biggest cut. After the ASIN (the url), are a string of numbers/letters. After that backslash, get rid of the rest and put in spring-20. Hit \"enter\" and a new url is generated that will credit Spring. v. easy."}, {"response": 147, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (14:31)", "body": "OK, I've changed the name and the link. We now have The Bucket's Boutique. Voila! http://www.firth.com/boutiq.html"}, {"response": 148, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (14:35)", "body": "Question: why is the website \"firth.com\" and not \"colinfirth.com.\"?"}, {"response": 149, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (14:37)", "body": "It's either. If you type in colinfirth.com, you will get The Bucket."}, {"response": 150, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (14:52)", "body": "Whew;-)"}, {"response": 151, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 25, 2002 (11:06)", "body": "Thanks for the accreditation link to add for Amazon. I get a lot of stuff from there and I would like Spring to get credit for it! Aloha Y'all from the South."}, {"response": 152, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 25, 2002 (11:10)", "body": "What's your location today, Marci?"}, {"response": 153, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 25, 2002 (11:14)", "body": "Louisville, KY"}, {"response": 154, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jun 25, 2002 (11:22)", "body": "Wow, my old stomping grounds. I used to live on St. James Court just next to Central Park where they do the Shakespeare in the Park series in the summer. Wonder if this is still going?"}, {"response": 155, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 25, 2002 (13:45)", "body": "I'll check. Lots going on here. Lots of stuff all around, too - not just hourses! I'm in downtown in the old part near Churchill Downs in a resotred row house. Loads of steps up and down to navigate will either give me coronary collapse or legs of steel."}, {"response": 156, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 25, 2002 (13:48)", "body": "I'm not used to heat without breezes, and I forgot how suddenly a thunderstorm can show up. My host arrived home yesterday soaked from one such little shower that did a bit of damage in Illinios just across the border. How funny it is to be in one of those colored states in those puzzles. I am still having problems with what order which states come in even though I was navigator on the last road trip!"}, {"response": 157, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 27, 2002 (07:23)", "body": "Still at least $250 short of being able to pay this months bandwidth bill and I only have a few days to go before they turn us off, please send payments via paypal (click link on http://www.spring.net ) or mail to: Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Thanks!"}, {"response": 158, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 28, 2002 (06:34)", "body": "Still 200+ short and only two days till our shutoff notice. Please donate via the Paypal logo at http://www.spring.net and help keep spring, firth and austen running. Thanks."}, {"response": 159, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 28, 2002 (09:20)", "body": "Just got a $50 contribution, we're about $150 short now. Please keep 'em rolling in, I'm facing a serious financial pinch this month and want to keep the system up and running. Thanks!!!"}, {"response": 160, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jun 28, 2002 (11:12)", "body": "Another $50 just came in, keep 'em coming and we'll make it! Thanks so much! $100 in Paypals today so far, you are really coming through in a pinch!"}, {"response": 161, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jun 29, 2002 (10:45)", "body": "terry, where do we stand today?"}, {"response": 162, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jun 29, 2002 (21:58)", "body": "We are very, very close, about $50 away from having the total I need to pay on Monday! Thanks to everyone for the very kind contributions over the past few days."}, {"response": 163, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jun 30, 2002 (17:50)", "body": "terry, i just sent a contribution (hope it went through)..."}, {"response": 164, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jun 30, 2002 (20:44)", "body": "Got it! Thanks so much, it puts us over the top!"}, {"response": 165, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 5, 2002 (07:30)", "body": "We're going to try something different for our next months pledge drive, starting today. The Spring is an Ebay seller. We have a good rating. Do you have something in your garage or attic that you don't need that we could sell on ebay? If you do, list it here in this topic, the Spring will sell it and you'll have to ship it to the buyer. You can donate whatever percentage you like to the Spring and keep whatever you want for yourself, as long as you donate at least 25% of the sale of the item to the Spring. You can email me (terry@spring.net) with your listing if you don't want to do it through this topic. It will be imperative that you can ship the item to the buyer promptly and without fail so as to preserve the Spring's good seller rating. List your item here, in this topic and then I'll list it for sale on Ebay. Also, after you list, send an email to mailto://terry@spring.net and let me know your phone number and address so I can co-ordinate the shipping and sale and payment to you. It's an experiment, let's see if it works, maybe this will help keep us afloat. Remember, it costs at least $320 a month just for our basic expenses and we'd like to raise more to start doing more effective backups and keep up with any necessary hardware/software upgrades."}, {"response": 166, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 5, 2002 (09:47)", "body": "A few of you may have received an email from me in error, it was sent unintentionally and my apologies if you received and email with a long list, I sent a followup which was the email I intended to send out in the first place. The email is in reference to the Ebay idea."}, {"response": 167, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Jul 5, 2002 (10:12)", "body": "I'd say that 90% of the people you emailed don't come here and wouldn't be reading your apology."}, {"response": 168, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 5, 2002 (10:14)", "body": "I emailed them an apology."}, {"response": 169, "author": "rajan1019", "date": "Fri, Jul 5, 2002 (10:34)", "body": "I am B.Com(Pass) from Delhi University from India and I have done a course in computer such as Desk top Publishing in Computer which includes Abode Photoshoppe, Scanning , Page Maker , Msoffice, freehand, Illustrate Coreldraw. I am now working in a SERC in India and handling Data Base work such 1. Data Entry 2. Generation of Tables 3. Obtain Charts from Data base 4. Preparing of Reports I had also working in a Printing Offset Company India's leading India's No. 1 Company Ajanta offset & Packaging Limited I also know the Knowlege of Printing"}, {"response": 170, "author": "rajan1019", "date": "Fri, Jul 5, 2002 (10:36)", "body": "My email address rajanbagga@vsnl.net telephone : 91-110-5556645"}, {"response": 171, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 6, 2002 (02:28)", "body": "Our first item for Ebay has been offered and will be listed soon. From today's correspondence: Yes, I have something I don't need any more. I have a champaign mink jacket with a fox collar. I paid $1,800. for it and I'll sell it for $800. with 30% going to The Spring. It's tuxedo length and quite a steal at this price. Ohhhhhhhhhhh - it's a size 10. All Ebay donors to remain anonymous unless, of course, they give permission to reveal their name. This is a most kind offering. Here's the actual ebay listing, the reserve price has been set at $800 so it won't sell until this reserve is met. If the donor requests, I may be able to revise the item listing. One very important thing I forgot to mention, is that we need a photograph if possible, or multiple photos of the item. Or at least point to a stock photo on the net. If it's a common consumer item then there's probably one we can find on google.com. Title: champaign mink jacket with fox collar Item # : The item number for your new listing is 941656544. URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=941656544"}, {"response": 172, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 6, 2002 (02:41)", "body": "I posted a photo with a disclaimer that it's only an approximation, I hope to obtain an actual photo from the donor. Ebay recently announced that they are heavily promoting \"power sellers\" to find folks with items they want to sell in their communities. The Spring is my community. So, please, did though that attic or rummage through your garage and see if there is something you no longer have any use for that could benefit our community at Drool and the Spring."}, {"response": 173, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 6, 2002 (02:48)", "body": "http://www.spring.net/mink"}, {"response": 174, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (14:47)", "body": "It fits me Terry, but what on earth would I do with it? Aloha and good luck Rajan. Thank you for posting."}, {"response": 175, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (16:15)", "body": "I put a real picture of it up instead to the ones I had. Hope it sells so we can get a headstart on next months server hosting/bandwidth charge, but then again, these things may not move in summertime. No bids yets."}, {"response": 176, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (10:18)", "body": "I suspect that thr right buyer might like to get it now and set it aside for cooler weather. How about the cruise crowd? Alaska is good this time of year and it does get nippy onboard."}, {"response": 177, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 13, 2002 (09:07)", "body": "The auction ended and the coat didn't sell. I will relist it."}, {"response": 178, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 13, 2002 (10:53)", "body": "is it real fur? if so, maybe folks are resisting it....is it priced too high?"}, {"response": 179, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 13, 2002 (19:12)", "body": "It's real. But it's summer! This is, after all, a coat. But I'll keep listing it and hope that some other folks dig some things out of the garages or attics!"}, {"response": 180, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (12:30)", "body": "how're the bills looking terry? are we doing ok this month?"}, {"response": 181, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (12:37)", "body": "We've got a good start. A couple of very nice contributions came in the past few days. So we're about a third of the way there to our $320 a month bill. The coat didn't sell. And there haven't been any other Ebay contributions (where folks contribute a discarded item for sale to benefit the Spring)."}, {"response": 182, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 27, 2002 (10:21)", "body": "I have a hundred of these premium quality webcams to sell on ebay to raise money for spring.net, drool and Austen. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2042024744&rd=1 or http://www.spring.net/ebay/webcam"}, {"response": 183, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 27, 2002 (23:13)", "body": "NCK27CZV - TeleCam LT w/ Zoom Notebook Videoconferencing Camera Buy this at our Spring Ebay Auction Now! This is an incredibly sensitive, high resolution camera ideal for security or web cam applications. It has a built in microphone and power supply. Slim, Lightweight Design for Portability Proper eye contact is the key to effective videoconferencing. This is why the NCK27CZV can be mounted anywhere on the notebook computer display with the provided TeleClip attachment. This makes it convenient for both right and left handed users as well as prevents problems of parallax. Further, the NCK27CZV's unique design allows the user the ability to detach and carry the the camera from the notebook to view documents, rooms or objects of interest. Varifocal Lens for wide angle, normal, or telephoto viewing of people, places and things Focus can be quickly adjusted from 50mm (2\") to infinity on the Tamron varifocal lens. This allows the NCK27CZV to be used for document or close-up imaging. Also, this model can be adjusted for a wider viewing angle for group conferencing as well as personal conferencing."}, {"response": 184, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Jul 28, 2002 (00:04)", "body": "You might want to post this info at austen.com's Tea Room"}, {"response": 185, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 29, 2002 (10:59)", "body": "Will do! Thanks."}, {"response": 186, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 29, 2002 (18:27)", "body": "What kind of price is reasonable for this camera, Terry?"}, {"response": 187, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 30, 2002 (07:49)", "body": "They retail for $299. $25 is reasonable. That's a $5 markup. I'm getting them for $20.00. I'm not sure what shipping will be, depends on your location. These do require a video capture board of some kind. I'm testing a video capture board that I could sell for $10 but I don't want to list it until I know that free drivers and software are readily available on the web. The mink coat hasn't sold and I'm relisting it for the third time. Ebay has a concept called power sellers, these are folks that find other people in their communities with rare or valuable collections of items they want to sell but they're not computer saavy themselves. So I'm looking at the potential for being a \"power seller\" as a means of supporting the Spring. That's why the call for folks to dig in to their closets, attics and basements."}, {"response": 188, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Aug 1, 2002 (17:23)", "body": "The stuff I have is mostly not worth the trouble. Tropic do evil things to stored valuables. It is best to leave them in storage on the mainland. I am heartily tired of feeding my books to bugs!"}, {"response": 189, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Aug 1, 2002 (17:33)", "body": "To everyone who bought up a storm at amazon!!! We just got our first quarterly report from amazon and, in the one month since Le Boutique came into existence, there was a huge response from all you and Spring actually earned some money. We really appreciate it. :)"}, {"response": 190, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Aug 1, 2002 (19:55)", "body": "Karen, why don't you post again the formula for giving Spring credit when one is ordering non-Colin items."}, {"response": 191, "author": "freddie", "date": "Thu, Aug 1, 2002 (19:59)", "body": "Thanks Ev, that's a great idea, as I lost it and wanted to buy some other, non-CF related stuff. Karen, can you put it somewhere permanently????? :))))"}, {"response": 192, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Aug 1, 2002 (20:58)", "body": "wait a sec...how do we make sure spring gets donations from amazon? i buy stuff from them--is it just via a click-thru?"}, {"response": 193, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Aug 1, 2002 (21:16)", "body": "I have setup a page at The Bucket that has links to specific products that contain Spring's code. However, anyone can change the product url to ensure that Spring gets the maximum rebate. A general click-thru isn't worth much. Lisa, I'll put instructions on the Boutique page for changing the url, but essentially it goes like this... very simple. Here's the url for Tom Clancy's new book (featured on amazon's main page) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0399148701/ref=pd_gw_tst_1/002-2311145-9832001 (1) In the location bar at the top of your browser, remove all the coding after the number set following the ASIN and keep the last slash. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0399148701/ (2) Type in spring-20 after the slash and hit Enter. You will get a new product page that has coding for spring. In this case, I got: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0399148701/spring-20/002-2311145-9832001 but it will be different for each person who does it. BTW, items have different percentages for rebates. Books, directly linked, have by the highest reimbursement."}, {"response": 194, "author": "Rika", "date": "Fri, Aug 2, 2002 (00:35)", "body": "I was really glad you set up the Amazon affiliate link. I had to buy a lot of books for school and I often shop through Amazon anyway.... so it was a painless way to donate."}, {"response": 195, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 2, 2002 (03:26)", "body": "The response has been wonderful and I am most grateful for this support. Amazon, Ebay and Paypal have been very helpful partners in our pledge drives. And I am most appreciative of the direct contributions that I still continue to receive. Any one who has made a contribution is most welcome to web space at firth.com, austen.com, spring.net, email address, etc. If there is anything I can do to return the favor, please contact me!"}, {"response": 196, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Aug 2, 2002 (10:32)", "body": "As the holidays approach, I think we should publicize the Amazon -Spring connection more. Has it been posted on austen.com? This is an easy way to get funding for Spring.I've bought all the Colin items I wish to buy at this point, but I order other items from Amazon monthly. About to order the Possession sound track...and in November the DVD."}, {"response": 197, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Aug 2, 2002 (10:36)", "body": "I've contacted Ann and she's just returning from vacation. She's indicated she will create a \"shop\" at austen.com too and will be fixing Spring's main page after she contacts Terry to get the new passwords."}, {"response": 198, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Aug 2, 2002 (12:47)", "body": "I have updated the Bucket's Boutique with instructions for DIY code changes, plus added some other items, including a couple of P&P sequels (the diary one isn't bad at all!): http://www.firth.com/boutiq.html"}, {"response": 199, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 3, 2002 (09:54)", "body": "Thanks, all. I just bought three books as birthday presents but did not know the formula. Next time, Spring will get the credit!"}, {"response": 200, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sat, Aug 3, 2002 (09:56)", "body": "Cancel them and I will give you the codes."}, {"response": 201, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Aug 3, 2002 (23:34)", "body": "OK thanks! I got notice of shipment of one today and one of the others is from a second hand dealer since it is out of print. However, the third might be redeemable. Not to worry; I will be buying a lot of books shortly. *;) More on that later."}, {"response": 202, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (14:07)", "body": "Karen, could you e-mail me a listing of them as well? Thanks!"}, {"response": 203, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (14:55)", "body": "Liz, email you what????? I haven't a clue."}, {"response": 204, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (22:31)", "body": "aren't there certain urls that one can go through to amazon so that spring gets a percentage of the purchase? or did i totally misunderstand that previous string of messages?"}, {"response": 205, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (23:15)", "body": "Yes, there's the general click-thru icon on the bottom of every topic here. I also have a page up at The Bucket, called The Boutique, which has all sorts of Firth and other items, specially listed so that you can click through on those. When you have a direct link (which you can make yourself if I don't have the item listed), then the rebate percentage is higher. Here's the Bucket page which explains it all: http://www.firth.com/boutiq.html especially the DIY section at the bottom. If you need assistance, just let me know. I'd be glad to help out."}, {"response": 206, "author": "ekelley", "date": "Tue, Aug 6, 2002 (19:07)", "body": "great. Thank you!"}, {"response": 207, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 7, 2002 (07:24)", "body": ""}, {"response": 208, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Aug 7, 2002 (07:27)", "body": "The above link is for our UK friends who want to buy books on Amazon and allow their purchases to help the Spring, firth.com and austen.com with the expenses of running the site. So if you're in Great Britain, this is for you!"}, {"response": 209, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 9, 2002 (09:54)", "body": "Will micropayments work here? http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=1696 is a reference to a site doing this?"}, {"response": 210, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (07:33)", "body": "I received a current bill for $320 for our bandwidth provider due by the end of the month and I ordered a new server which will cost $1400, I have $750 in the kitty so I am about $970 short. I need to come up with all of this before the end of the month. The purpose of the new server is for immediate backup (we have one now) and to provide a safety net if we start incurring heavy bandwidth charges and need to change providers. That way, we'll have our own hardware ready to startup at a new location. The present server, which we rent and do not own, costs $320 a month and has 70 gb of disk space. The new server, which I have $750 set aside for, will have 320 gb of disk space, dual Pentium 1000 processors, RAID redundancy and 512 mb ram (one memory stick with room for more). Owning a server will allow me to shop around locally for a much better monthly deal and we'll have much more security in that we own the hardware. Please send donations to: Paul Terry Walhus The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Or use the paypal link on the main page at http://www.spring.net Thanks!!!"}, {"response": 211, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (11:54)", "body": "Terry, I can make a donation on payday (the 1st) due to some current unforeseen circumstances. Thanks for your efforts on keeping this place going."}, {"response": 212, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (12:49)", "body": "Thanks wolfie. I got $25 in so far today via Paypal. So I'm sending $775 to the vendor that's building the system and he'll hold it till I pay the rest. So that's $625 more I need to raise for the system and $320 for the months bandwidth charge. That $750 was all I had so I'm hoping for some contributions to cover the rest!"}, {"response": 213, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (13:18)", "body": "Why don't you raise the money first and then buy the system. The bandwith charge is a constant. Just a thought...."}, {"response": 214, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (13:22)", "body": "I've been putting this off for so long, I don't like living dangerously and not having a decent backup if our rented system went down. At least I am able to get $750 in to the hands of the vendor that's building it today. The bandwidth charge varies, $320 is the *minimum* and we are starting to get bills for extra bandwidth. I want to be able to recover and switch over quickly if we get a bill for bandwidth that we can't afford or if something happens to our server. Right now, we have no backup and I'm very uncomfortable with this. I don't want to end up in the position of having to start all over from scratch and losing all our content! That would not be good."}, {"response": 215, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (13:38)", "body": "I quite agree with Evelyn. You pay your bills first and then save for the extras."}, {"response": 216, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (17:31)", "body": "I agree we need to pay our bandwidth bill and that will be the next expenditure. But I feel like it is essential we have a backup strategy in case this server is attacked or crashes. And the new server has redundant hard drives, something that would be cost prohibitive in a rental server like we currently have. If the system went down now, there would be no way to get back up and running quickly, it would take a week or more and we would lose most of our content. I like the idea of having a safety net!"}, {"response": 217, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (17:35)", "body": "This is the server: And this is the quote (not including a video card): Next Basic System............................$1253.00 P3tdde SC822I-300LP case Dual cpus Intel P3 1000 512mb pc133 sdram FD Slim cd rom Dual IBM 120 mb gb 7200rpm Assembly Insurance and handling........................$17.00 Grand total with TX sales tax..............$1374.78"}, {"response": 218, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (17:41)", "body": "This new system comes with two 120 gb IBM drives and I already have two 120 gb IBM drives. And it has room for two more. This would give us 960 gb storage with room for 240 gb more or a total of 1200 gb. We could partition this in to two \"mirrors\" so if the main drive crashed or was corrupted the mirror would be intact. Right now we have only a 40 gb and a 20 gb drive and we are rapidly running out of space. I am spending a lot of time daily cleaning up files and trying to keep the system from filling up. It also has two processors which would make it substantially faster."}, {"response": 219, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (17:58)", "body": "The motherboard: Target Segment High-end desktop, workstation, or internet applications Form Factor ATX with PC99 color-coded double-deck I/O Size: 11.6\" x 11.2\" (W x H) Processor Support Dual or single Intel 370-pin Pentium III 1.40GHz-500MHz processors Chipset VIA Apollo Pro 266T Front Side Bus 133/100MHz Memory Up to 4 GB of PC133 SDRAM memory I/O Expansion 5 32-bit 33MHz PCI bus mastering slots 1 4xAGP Pro 1 ACR Onboard Devices Dual Ultra DMA (UDMA/100) Promise ATA/100 onboard RAID 0, 1, 0+1 Burst data transfer rate supports UDMA Mode 5, PIO Mode 4, ATAPI Intel 82559 Ethernet controller onboard Up to Four USB (Universal Serial Bus) ports PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse connectors Two fast UART 16550 compatible serial ports One ECP/EPP parallel port One Infrared header One floppy port Chassis Compatibility ATX chassis Fits SC822, SC811 chassis PC Health Monitoring Onboard voltage monitors for CPU core, +2.5V, +3.3V, + 5V and + 12V Fan status monitor CPU/chassis temperature monitoring CPU fan auto-off in sleep mode CPU overheat LED header LED and control for chassis intrusion detection System resource alert Support for system management software Auto-switching voltage regulator for CPU core, up to 20A of current Wake-on-LAN allows for remote network management and configuration of the PC, even in off-hours when the PC is turned off. This reduces the complexity of managing the network. Onboard auto-switching power regulator supports CPU core voltages from 1.3 ~ 3.5 volts Three tachometer fan connectors ( CPU, one chassis fan connector and one thermal control overheat fan connector) Keyboard wake-up from Soft-Off Overheat LED indication connector CPU frequency settings in BIOS setup Power-up mode control upon recovery from AC power loss Overheat backup fan connector for CPU protection BIOS Features Supports ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) and APM (Advanced Power Management) Slow blinking LED for Sleep State indicator Main switch override mechanism. Power-up mode control upon recovery from AC power loss PC Health Monitoring protects your system from problems even before they occur. DMI support ACPI/APM power management RTC (Real-Time Clock) wakeup External modem remote ring-on when system is in Soft-Off state BIOS rescue hot keys for rescuing BIOS chip from flash failure Hardware BIOS virus protection Award 2Mb Flash ROM Other Features ACPI/APM power management Internal/external modem ring-on Control of power-on mode for recovery from AC power loss One WOL (Wake-On-LAN) connector One chassis intrusion connector Standard Retail Package One SUPER P3TDDE mainboard One three-ended 40-pin IDE ribbon cable One floppy ribbon cable Two CPU cooling fans One backpanel I/O shield One BIOS/drivers CD"}, {"response": 220, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (21:34)", "body": "Wow!!!"}, {"response": 221, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (08:03)", "body": "Just in. $200 from geo. Thanks! Thanks! Thanks! Our monthly rental is covered. I have a $750 deposit in on the new server. And I'll be able to make another $150 payment toward the new server. So we'll be up to $900 on the server with another $500 to go, he'll ship it as soon as I get this payment in to him. We're very close to having a powerful server that will someday be the future of Spring, Firth and Austen. It's exciting as we draw nearer."}, {"response": 222, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 26, 2002 (08:51)", "body": "Another $50 in. That's $275 total, we're getting closer to the new server. Keep 'em coming, please!"}, {"response": 223, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 26, 2002 (12:48)", "body": "I have put down $1,000 total on the server now and have a 412.66 balance due on the new server. We're very close indeed. To contribute, just go to Spring's main page at http://www.spring.net and click on the Paypal link. Or mail checks to: The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 I am very excited about having a \"safety net\" for this community, call it lifeboat or whatever, it will give us a comfort zone that we have never had before. I believe this will benefit us all."}, {"response": 224, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (08:25)", "body": "I have received $275 in contributions in the current effort so far. This almost covers our monthly rental payment. I'm making up the difference. So I could still use some help here to get this project off the ground. The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 or Paypal on http://www.spring.net or http://www.spring.net/paypal"}, {"response": 225, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 6, 2002 (13:03)", "body": "I made up the difference in the monthly server rent. I'm still hoping some folks can chip in on the new server, we're at 85% disk space utilization on our prsent server and climbing rapidly. I'd at least like to get things backed up and have a reserve in the ready in case our only current server goes down. Paypal on http://www.spring.net or by mail: The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612"}, {"response": 226, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (03:54)", "body": "Our discussion forums were \"down\" yesterday for about an hour because we exceed our \"license limit\" for the software we use called Yapp. I called and got an extension from Kaylene, maintainer of the software. This occurred around 5 pm yesterday, give or take. The good news is that we had over 15,000 log ins in a 24 hour period, that's a lot! The flip side of this is that to get an unlimited license would cost us another $2300. The new server I'm working on his higher priority than this right now, because we need more hard drive capacity and better performance. But the extended license is something to keep in mind as we grow and have more folks logging in. It may be time to offer \"subscriptions\" to those who want expanded services from spring.net such as email, web space, and access to private forums. We'll always be free, but we may need to offer more services in order to support our operations. As always, I'm grateful for all the kind contributions via our Paypal link and though the mail. Keep 'em coming as every bit helps toward maintaining and expanding this web community of ours. Thanks all!"}, {"response": 227, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (03:58)", "body": "From Kaylene: I reset the license file so that it would work again. This means that your site received more than 15000 hits in a 24 hour period. When you upgrade to a new server you should probaby upgrade to an unlimited license. Right now you have paid for a license which is normally 64 unix users and and average of 6400 hits per day. Due to your mostly web usage I have it implemented this as at most 15,000 hits per day. You really should upgrade to an unlimited use license. It looks like Friday September 20 you got 11,003 hits, and then today you got more than 15000. You are now consistently averaging more that 6400 hits per day. You currently have a License worth $3,700.00. If you want to upgrade your license without adding additional hours of support it will costs $6,000 - $3,700 = $2,300.00. I would suggest you start saving for this. I did not increase the number of hits beyound 15000 hits per day. The next time you go above that limit you will experience this same problem again."}, {"response": 228, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (07:51)", "body": "To contribute: http://www.spring.net/paypal or by mail: The Spring 182 Clover Road Cedar Creek, TX 78612 What will you contributions go toward? At present, toward a new server that will function as a backup and possible replacement for our current server if it passes muster. It will have 720 gb of hard drive storage as compared to our present 70 gb (which is 86% full!). Thanks so much to all those who have contributed so far this month!"}, {"response": 229, "author": "lafn", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (10:42)", "body": "Hmmmmm. Can I throw in a word that might be controversial...the \"R\" word. \"Restricted\" meaning only donors would be able to log on. Is that ever done on some sights? How many donors do we have??? With 15,000 hits over 24 hrs. Looks like a few people are paying for others;-)"}, {"response": 230, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (10:48)", "body": "I don't want to keep people out unless this is the consensus of the community. Specific conferences can be limited to those on a user list. I'd need more input on this from Karen et al before making any kind of move like this. The Spring gets over a million hits a month, as does austen.com and firth.com. We do get supported by a faithful few, and I'd like to see others who are able make whatever contribution they are able. Even if it's $10, $20, $50 a year."}, {"response": 231, "author": "Rika", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (12:05)", "body": "Terry, you can use the web log data to look at hit rates by conference, right? Do you have a feel, on a conference-by-conference basis, for who's consuming the resources vs. who's contributing?"}, {"response": 232, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (12:11)", "body": "Sounds like it's time for me to get my annual fundraiser going. Rika, Drool is the conference responsible for the vast majority of the hits. The rest is insignificant. Usage on The Bucket/firth.com and austen.com doesn't affect the license, as they don't use the Yapp software. However, I've never been able to see storage and processor stats that combine all of Terry's domains."}, {"response": 233, "author": "Rika", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (15:48)", "body": "Okay, another question. What constitutes a hit on Yapp? Is it the same as a page hit on a web server, or are they counted differently?"}, {"response": 234, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (15:59)", "body": "Same thing."}, {"response": 235, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (16:54)", "body": "I believe they're the same, but I do have a question in to Kaylene about what her definition is, is it a login or is it any visit regardless of whether the person logs in or not. I'm waiting to hear from her on this."}, {"response": 236, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (21:53)", "body": "\"Hits are defined as anytime a page is displayed on a web machine\" Kaylene"}, {"response": 237, "author": "Rika", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (22:10)", "body": "If it's counted the same as ordinary page hits, then it wouldn't be related to whether or not someone logged in (though the login, I suppose, might generate an extra hit). It would have to do with the number of page requests someone made, and that could be several per visit to a conference. So I would think if I visited Drool through the main page, read the new messages in four topics, and posted twice, that would be at least seven hits. One reason I'm asking these questions is because I've been thinking about the fund raising efforts. Speaking as someone who's fairly new here and who's enjoying it, I'd like to give my fair share to support Drool, and in fact I have contributed twice in the three months that I've been here. I'm even willing to give more than my fair share, since I recognize that some people are going to choose to take a free ride if they have the opportunity. But I haven't a clue what a fair share would be, because I don't have good information on the total monthly costs or on the number of people who hang out here. I realize that counting the number of unique lurkers is difficult if not impossible (unles Yapp creates cookies for that purpose and logs statistics), but I think it would be beneficial to try to quantify both the size of the community and the size of the financial obligation we jointly incur to whatever extent is possible."}, {"response": 238, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (22:24)", "body": "Our base fixed cost is $320 per month for server rent. Hardware is another cost which varies, the machine I'm putting together is running about $1400 for the base machine and $900 for the hard drives. I already mentioned the Yapp software costs (licensing). Karen and I both put a lot of our time in to this project, as do Marcia and several other authors (Ann Haker to name one). But these costs haven't been compensated to date. It's rare that we bring in enough in a given month to cover all our costs, but what we do get is vital and there is never any extra or any \"profit\" per se. I don't know about the lurker thing, but I know the number is huge according to our web stats, see http://www.spring.net/webtrends and you'll get some clues. As to the size of the community, last time I looked there were about 1,000 unique people in the drool conference. That was 4-5 months ago, we've gained quite a bit since then. I think I have about 400 email addresses that are pretty reliable for users of the system."}, {"response": 239, "author": "Rika", "date": "Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (22:28)", "body": "That's a start.... I may e-mail you about this."}, {"response": 240, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (07:16)", "body": "One approach might be to set up a \"members only\" area with discussions, content etc that were available to our contributors and subscribers. We could admit, naturally, everyone who's made significant contributions by default and create a \"subscription\" model where folks paid $5 a month or $50 a year for a username and password. Subscribers/contributors could also be offered premium email addresses such as mandy@firth.com or jane@austen.com, etc., web space on the new server, and we could produce a quarterly printed newsletter. Just ideas, I'm not saying I'm going to implement this yet. Just looking for feedback."}, {"response": 241, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (12:10)", "body": "(Terry) Just ideas, I'm not saying I'm going to implement this yet. Just looking for feedback. All good potential good ideas. Which would cover the monthly expenses. And eliminate the end of the month money crunch. Of course it all depends on the response of the immininet fund drive , doesn't it? I mean, if we get a good enough response, things might go on as is. But 15,000 hits means a whole lot of folks are coming on free."}, {"response": 242, "author": "Lizzajaneway", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (13:23)", "body": "I'll second the proposals / ideas. we are always going to get \"freeloaders\" but I guess we should try and limit them;-)"}, {"response": 243, "author": "Rika", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (14:08)", "body": "I like the idea of having some \"premium\" features/content for subscribers. It's important to offer at least some access to content for free, because the way people get hooked is by being able to visit and read and find out what goes on before they have to make a commitment. A possible first step would be (if Yapp supports this) to require people to register and get a Drool user name in order to read some of the conferences. A registration requirement is a barrier, but only a small one, and it would give us a feeling for who's out there."}, {"response": 244, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (14:57)", "body": "Another idea, and *all* of these ideas really need Karen's input, would be to set up a subscribers only area on the website, where subscribers could get premium content and information. Kind of like the news services do, they let you have the bulk of the news but save long premium stories for subscribers only areas. It's easy to set up a conference that is private and the host determines who gets access by maintaining a \"ulist\" or list of users. We've had conferences like these in the past. And we have a few now, you don't see them because they're private."}, {"response": 245, "author": "lafn", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (16:43)", "body": "(Terry)And we have a few now, you don't see them because they're private. Ah Ha...Terry.You mean as a long time donor, I'm not welcomed at all the conferences;-) Shutting me out:-(((("}, {"response": 246, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (17:59)", "body": "Well, not exactly, the private conferences have *nothing* to do with drool, Firth, Austen or any of the things that probably interest you. And they're very inactive right now. I'm talking about creating something that would appeal to the interests of those actively supporting and creating the major content areas here such as Firth, Austen and Fan Fiction."}, {"response": 247, "author": "SBRobinson", "date": "Tue, Oct 1, 2002 (17:59)", "body": "create a \"subscription\" model where folks paid $5 a month or $50 a year for a username and password this sounds like a great idea to me :-)"}, {"response": 248, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Oct 5, 2002 (12:07)", "body": "Oh dear. Most of my devout readers and posters (minimal by Drool's standards) are second or third world people or young students who are putting themselves through college. It would mean the end of Geo to make them pay for a subscription!"}, {"response": 249, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Oct 5, 2002 (20:24)", "body": "i don't know about a subscription either. a lot of us volunteer our spare time to make spring what it is today....."}, {"response": 250, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (09:00)", "body": "I would never prevent someone from getting to the main areas of the Spring, like Geo. This is more in reference to getting to special subscriber only areas, and if someone was in one of the categories you describe, they could easily get a \"comp\" subscription, or complimentary subscription. Anyone who was a \"devout poster\" would automatically get a subscription. There will be no end to Geo! That would be unthinkable."}, {"response": 251, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (09:47)", "body": "*whew*"}, {"response": 252, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (09:55)", "body": "Terry - Have you run the Webtrends report? Several people have indicated they'd like to see that stats."}, {"response": 253, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (11:27)", "body": "I have published the webtrends report but my license expires on the 15th, you need an account to see but I'll give a username and password to anyone who wants one. The url is http://video.wholetech.com:1099 If anyone wants to login, use this generic account: username: stats password stats"}, {"response": 254, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (11:59)", "body": "These reports will only be abailable until the 15th of this month, when our Webtrends license expires. So download whatever stats you need to your local machine, or, KarenR, feel free to save them on our webserver. This reports are insancely complete. , I wish I could afford this software but it's way out of our budget!"}, {"response": 255, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (12:14)", "body": "Personally I want to commend Terry for looking for ways to increase the funding. He gets to pay the bills, after all.I am sure he doesn't like to go out every month requesting funds. Wolfie we all appreciate all the effort you put in...as well as Marcia. Money couldn't pay for what you both do for Spring. I want to keep Spring free too...but as we know, it is public for viewing, but privately funded. And when there are 15,000 hits in one day(???)and only an infinitismal percent of those give any money, I feel there is something wrong with this picture."}, {"response": 256, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (12:28)", "body": "The Annual Drool Fundraiser will kickoff tomorrow. I've made arrangements for a cheque collection point in the UK and if there are others who can have PayPal in other countries, let me know."}, {"response": 257, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (13:06)", "body": "Drool is kicking off its Annual Fund-Raising Drive. Spring needs money in order to operate and we appreciate whatever people can send to help keep this place online every single day of the week. For this year's campaign, I'm hoping that the contributions will cover our operating expenses through the end of the year. As Terry has explained in the past, it costs approximately $300 a month to run Spring, which includes the conferences, The Bucket (firth.com) and austen.com, home to the Derbyshire Writers' Guild. Also, when we exceed our contractual allowance for bandwidth, there are variable charges for the excess. From our usage statistics, we all know Drool is very popular but is financially supported by a small fraction of those who visit. Whether you have registered or read the boards in a public mode, it costs Spring money. We prefer to keep Drool open to the public and can only do so through your generosity and giving whatever you can to keep this wonderful place open. This year, I've made arrangements with Lizza in the UK to collect cheques, which she can then send on to me. For other countries, we have alternatives that have worked fine in the past. Our Drool boards are a source of enjoyment for many people, participants and lurkers alike. So if you'd like to make a contribution, please contact me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com for information, as no addresses will be posted on this board."}, {"response": 258, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (15:44)", "body": "Cute , boss.Love the \"Mom send $$$\"LOL. Think Colin could join in with a PSA for Spring? Thanks Lizza for being the UK Money Bag;-) (no pun intended)"}, {"response": 259, "author": "Lizzajaneway", "date": "Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (16:48)", "body": "None taken;-)"}, {"response": 260, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (18:26)", "body": "karen, you are so creative! luv the pics!!!"}, {"response": 261, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Oct 9, 2002 (19:04)", "body": "Terry, FTP is still not possible to Geo's hosts and files are having to be accessed from other net sources. For John's research this is NOT acceptable. Please help!"}, {"response": 262, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (05:11)", "body": "I'll fix this today, email me and I'll respond right away with some tests. I need some more detailed information from you."}, {"response": 263, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (06:48)", "body": "I spent quite a bit of time on this and set up an automated procedure to reset your file permissions. Let's continue this discussion in topic 25 of the unix conference though, as it's more related to unix file permissions than to the current pledge drive. Got a $50 contrib last night. Thanks! I won't mention or publish any contributors publicly unless otherwise requested by the donor. One of our recent contributors asked for, and received a firth.com email address and webspace. Remember, if you contribute, there are all kinds of \"perks\"; all you have to do is ask if you've been a contributor."}, {"response": 264, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (09:30)", "body": "(Terry) One of our recent contributors asked for, and received a firth.com email address and webspace. Remember, if you contribute, there are all kinds of \"perks\"; all you have to do is ask if you've been a contributor. Fantastic, Terry. Can you list the perks...or are they a secret;-)"}, {"response": 265, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (16:22)", "body": "The primary ones are email and webspace and private conferences (if any one wants them as a group). Also, there's \"shell access\" for the more unix saavy which gives you lightning fast text only access to the conferences. You have \"live\" phone support from me whenever you need it. I'll think of more."}, {"response": 266, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (16:55)", "body": "You'd better cost some of those options out."}, {"response": 267, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (20:03)", "body": "Email and webspace won't cost much. Same with private conferences. Shell access is already enabled and uses less system resources than the web. A unix system like ours handles additional options pretty well. We could support a couple of thousand web/email/shell users pretty easily and we're only supporting a handful now."}, {"response": 268, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (22:28)", "body": "I know email doesn't."}, {"response": 269, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 11, 2002 (08:28)", "body": "The only thing that hits us hard is disk space usage, and I'm building a solution for that and increasing vigilence in cleaning up what we have now (eg. compressing the logs more). So I would qualify supporting those kinds of numbers only if we limited personal disk space, but that wouldn't be as much of an issue with the new system."}, {"response": 270, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Oct 11, 2002 (10:50)", "body": "I would strongly suggest that those perks have a quantified amount attached. The email addy is one many Firth fans would covet....I would put say a minimum of $50. on that. Hey...that's less than 50 cents a day for Drool. That's ludicrous. The same with the other perks...(some of which I don't even know what they are;-)"}, {"response": 271, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 11, 2002 (12:47)", "body": "Sounds good, Evelyn."}, {"response": 272, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 13, 2002 (23:47)", "body": "I don't even remember how to access my spring.net email since I lost the ability to login on telnet. I'll have to learn it all over again, soon!"}, {"response": 273, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Oct 14, 2002 (11:02)", "body": "You can use pop mail or ssh and use pine or elm."}, {"response": 274, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Oct 18, 2002 (16:16)", "body": "2002 Fund Raising Status!! I want to thank all the wonderful people who have come forward, contacted me about making donations, and followed through with checks, money orders or PayPal transfers. So far we've collected $440, slightly less than half of our goal from the following: What truly amazes me is that about a third of that amount is from our wonderful community of lurkers, who tell me how much they love it here at Drool and that it has become a fixture in their day. With the number of hits we get here, I know it is a daily *must visit* for many more who rely on Drool for current information on Colin and for the lively banter amongst die-hard Firthettes, with nothing better to do than paint their nails a deep crimson. So, let's keep this fund drive rolling and I hope to hear from more of you soon. If you're in another country and want to make a contribution, please email me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com to discuss your options. Don't be among the other noncontributors in our Hall of Shame: BTW, Evelyn, where's your check? *tap tap* BTW2, if you haven't received an email from me, then I haven't received your contribution or notice of it."}, {"response": 275, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Oct 18, 2002 (21:25)", "body": "*LAUGH* karen, you crack me up!! love the graphics!!!!!"}, {"response": 276, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (18:48)", "body": "Annual Fund Raising Newsflash for Australian Springites We're making it easier and easier to make international donations. For those who haven't availed themselves of PayPal, we now have new Country Rep for Australia. Jane Scott has volunteered to collect funds on our behalf and will be able to transmit them to us when this drive is through. You may contact her directly at gaea@mailcity.com for her mailing address or other questions."}, {"response": 277, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (19:17)", "body": "THANKS, KAREN... FOR ORGANIZING THIS FUNDRAISING. BUT FOR YOU, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE"}, {"response": 278, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (19:42)", "body": "How creative Droolians are ! Evelyn, I love your Thanx graphics. I may just borrow them... Karen outdoes us all. She is sooooooo devoted and so good at what she does. Evelyn's right. *Applause*"}, {"response": 279, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (19:42)", "body": "I expect to get a paypal to you shortly, Terry..... again!"}, {"response": 280, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (22:49)", "body": "thank you!"}, {"response": 281, "author": "Lizzajaneway", "date": "Mon, Oct 21, 2002 (02:35)", "body": "You are right Evelyn, Karen is \"The Bees Knees!!!\""}, {"response": 282, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Oct 24, 2002 (19:55)", "body": "I'm about to send out a bunch of checks for $640 from the folks at Austen.com. They've also donated approximately $300 by Paypal."}, {"response": 283, "author": "lafn", "date": "Thu, Oct 24, 2002 (20:17)", "body": "That's wonderful Ann.Congrats...Thanks for all your efforts. I am overwhelmed at the tremendous support."}, {"response": 284, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 25, 2002 (03:18)", "body": "That's wonderful, what a great group of folks! This is indeed, as Evelyn says, overwhelming. Thank you so much!"}, {"response": 285, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Fri, Oct 25, 2002 (10:36)", "body": "Here they are! These donors have been very generous in supporting Spring and helping us reach our goal. However, there are still pledges outstanding and, if I have not personally emailed you, then I haven't received it or notice of it. Please keep those donations coming in. If you don't know how to do so, contact me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com. Even Colin knows a good thing when he sees it!"}, {"response": 286, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Oct 31, 2002 (11:03)", "body": "Latest inductee to the Drool Hall of Shame This individual took the time from his very important celebrity schedule to write and say he was making a donation to Drool, his favorite fan club. But weeks later, a check has yet to arrive. Much as I hate to do this to such a talented guy and obviously busy person, I feel I must. As the fund-raising drive nears an end (not yet though as I'm waiting for some stragglers), I want to remind people it is not too late to show your appreciation for Drool by making a donation. Every little bit helps insure that Terry will not have to make his monthly appeals or when his property taxes are due. ;-) If I have not personally thanked you by email, then I haven't received your donation or notification of it from Terry. Please contact me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com for instructions or addresses. In addition, I can take Paypal donations myself at my other email address which can expedite things. Thanks again to everyone for their continuing generosity. BTW, this was your Halloween trick. ;-)"}, {"response": 287, "author": "lindak", "date": "Thu, Oct 31, 2002 (11:29)", "body": "(Karen)BTW, this was your Halloween trick. ;-) Does this mean a treat is in store, later, perhaps?"}, {"response": 288, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Nov 7, 2002 (11:50)", "body": "We've raised enough for two full payments at least."}, {"response": 289, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Thu, Nov 28, 2002 (22:42)", "body": "On Thanksgiving, it seems very appropriate to close out the 2002 Fund Raiser and give one more round of thanks to all those who have so generously given their support to Drool. Here's the latest batch of Drool Darlings: Together, with these fine people listed below, Drool has raised $2,200 this year. With the $880 raised by austen.com's latest fund-raising drive, this should keep Spring in operation all the way through June of next year. Excellent results and very much appreciated. Thank you so much. *smooch*"}, {"response": 290, "author": "Rika", "date": "Thu, Nov 28, 2002 (22:55)", "body": "What a terrific result! Thanks, Karen, for doing such a great job of coordinating the campaign."}, {"response": 291, "author": "lafn", "date": "Fri, Nov 29, 2002 (08:40)", "body": "Thanks, Boss."}, {"response": 292, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 29, 2002 (12:02)", "body": "Yes thank you Karen!."}, {"response": 293, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (11:58)", "body": "Evelyn, I love your smooching smileys!"}, {"response": 294, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (12:09)", "body": ""}, {"response": 295, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (12:29)", "body": "(Sorry for the MIA message...) Thank you, Wolfie... You know what they say...\"A picture says....\""}, {"response": 296, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Dec 2, 2002 (13:07)", "body": "The *complete* list (hopefully!) and alphabetized for your reading pleasure:"}, {"response": 297, "author": "lafn", "date": "Mon, Dec 2, 2002 (13:35)", "body": "Pretty impressive. A Great Big Smooch To all who are keeping Drool alive and banner-free. Thanks Karen and Terry PS We sure have lotta Kathys!"}, {"response": 298, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 2002 (10:56)", "body": "Thanks, in part, to the contributions received though our pledge drive I was able to ship a new server off to our hosting facility yesterday. It's a Supermicro server with twin PIII 933 MHz processors, 512 mb ram, 720 gbs of hard drive space or six 120 gb hard drives. We presently have a 40 gb and a 30 gb drive or 70 gigabytes. The new server is a 2U rackmount box with twin ethernet connections, 2 pci slots and an agp slot. It has hardware RAID for data security and backup. It should arrive at our hosting facility next Tuesday and it will take about two weeks to get it up and running and get all our data moved from this system to the new system. I'm hoping we can put it online on January 1st. All the data from the old system will be archived on the new system and I may even purchase the old drives from the hosting company and put them on a shelf for an emergency although the new system will have plenty of built in safeguards. I've been testing it for two months and it should be fairly stable. I was talking to Ann Haker yesterday, and the new administration system we're going to install on it will be much more useful for content people like her and Karen. We're installing something called EZ Admin which gives authors far more control over their web sites and allows them the ability to create their own users and manage things more effectively. One giant step for the Spring, thanks to everyones super efforts!"}, {"response": 299, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (13:03)", "body": "Generous Geoites are unknown to mebutI suspect it is only me plusa few others. My audience/posters are students mostly from far poorer countries than the North American ones. *sigh* but I did get a post by a grateful mom whose son had used Geo to research a paper for school. That was very nice! Terry, I'll send my donation as soon as I get home and can get the banking figured out. Someone NOT of my acquaintance is charging things to my debit card on AOL. *fume*"}, {"response": 300, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (17:54)", "body": "That's debit card thing sounds like identity theft. Not cool! Thanks for the thoughts."}, {"response": 301, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (18:21)", "body": "Not cool at all. It happened to my son. As soon as I get back to Hilo I will have the card replaced with a new one."}, {"response": 302, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 20, 2003 (23:21)", "body": "You should have heard from me via PayPal today, Terry."}, {"response": 303, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 30, 2003 (10:34)", "body": "I did! Thank you so much!!!"}, {"response": 304, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 1, 2003 (00:31)", "body": "Happy to be able to assist!"}, {"response": 305, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 7, 2003 (16:29)", "body": "To all of Spring's supporters. On Spring's main page there's a new item labeled \" ads by google\" . If you click on these ads, it will help pay our bills."}, {"response": 306, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 7, 2003 (16:38)", "body": "Goodle Ad Revenue partway through the first day was very good, although google does not allow me to discuss specific stats. But thanks for your support and please keep on clicking."}, {"response": 307, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 2003 (16:11)", "body": "Thanks for the heads up. I'll go straigh away!"}, {"response": 308, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 12, 2003 (10:25)", "body": "We've been in a steady decline since day one. But I'm figuring out wayxs to boost traffic through the other websites, expecially http://adsenses.com which is also http://www.adsensible.com ."}, {"response": 309, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 2003 (10:48)", "body": "It seems to go through seasonal fluctuations - at least as far as Geo is concerned. Summer comes and everyone goes outdoors on vacations or picnics. When school and the fall season begins, they pick up again."}, {"response": 310, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 2003 (16:57)", "body": "That will be good."}, {"response": 311, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 2003 (17:25)", "body": "... when things pick up. That will be good. Because we're in a long dry spell now."}, {"response": 312, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jul 29, 2003 (13:08)", "body": "Over the several years I have been active here both in Drool and on the rest of Spring, summer is the worst time for hits. Hang in there. Things will pick up with the cooler wetter weather coming."}, {"response": 313, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Aug 4, 2003 (22:24)", "body": "i owe a good old donation (maybe when my pay raise comes in at the end of the month)"}, {"response": 314, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 9, 2003 (22:12)", "body": "I need help picking which colored google ad is the most pleasing. Will you please help me out by visiting this page and clicking on the ad which has the color scheme that you find to be most pleasing? You would make my day and make me very, very happy if you would do this, please. http://www.spring.net/adsense Just click on the ad with the color scheme you find most pleasing and I'll announce the results based on my page stats. Thanks in advance for helping with this!"}, {"response": 315, "author": "lafn", "date": "Sun, Aug 10, 2003 (09:01)", "body": "Go Raspberry Smoothie"}, {"response": 316, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Sun, Aug 10, 2003 (09:38)", "body": "Put the Droolback3 background on your test page, Terry, then it would be easier to choose."}, {"response": 317, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 11, 2003 (08:35)", "body": "I will do it. I'll put droolback3 as the background on the test page. Then folks can go to vote by clicking on the one they like best at http://www.spring.net/adsense I'll count the votes and let you know which one is most popular."}, {"response": 318, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 11, 2003 (08:42)", "body": "Drooleurs: Please pick the color scheme you like the best on this page: http://www.spring.net/drool I put the drool background on this page."}, {"response": 319, "author": "Shoshana", "date": "Mon, Aug 11, 2003 (10:08)", "body": "Against the Drool background, I think fresh mint is most pleasing, though it does sort of seem to blend in and could seem to disappear. Melancholy blue and raspberry smoothie are also nice and stand out more."}, {"response": 320, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Aug 11, 2003 (10:14)", "body": "Good to have confirmation about \"fresh mint\" from another computer. I always worry that nonconforming colors. I vote for fresh mint as well."}, {"response": 321, "author": "Shoshana", "date": "Fri, Aug 15, 2003 (20:56)", "body": "Terry -- love the google ad for \"springs.\" Was that a conscious choice or random? Very humorous!"}, {"response": 322, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 16, 2003 (09:48)", "body": "Shoshana, I have no say over which ad google places. On one site, I heard this story. Yep, they're still tweaking: The technology is not yet foolproof. The online edition of The New York Post, which is owned by the News Corporation, ran an article last month about a murder in which the victim's body parts were packed in a suitcase, and Google served up an ad for a luggage dealer. from the above NYT piece"}, {"response": 323, "author": "Beedee", "date": "Sat, Aug 16, 2003 (11:16)", "body": "(Terry)and Google served up an ad for a luggage dealer. Shoshana, I had the same question! Very funny Terry."}, {"response": 324, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 11, 2003 (19:28)", "body": "i have finally seen the light (colors, that is) and i like cut grass the best! though raspberry smoothie comes in a tight second. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 9, "subject": "Proposed new conferences", "response_count": 109, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (09:35)", "body": "Here's the current list, 10 indicates existing conference. 9 is a high score, then 8 etc. 10 apps 10 art 10 austen 10 austentest 10 austin 10 books 10 community 10 computer 10 cultures 10 deeper 10 dpo 10 dsm 10 environment 10 fitness 10 food 10 internet 10 lovelinks 10 media 10 movies 10 music 10 newtest 10 parent 10 poetry 10 politics 10 porch 10 projects 10 radio 10 restaurants 10 sex 10 sports 10 techbusiness 10 travel 10 tv 10 web 10 windows 10 yapp 10 9 business 9 capcity 9 couples 9 crafts 9 culture 9 genx 9 health 9 homeowner 9 hosts 9 interviews 9 jazz 9 languages 9 life 9 newage 9 psychology 9 religion 9 science 9 singles 9 software 9 southwest 9 spirit 9 therapy 9 unix 9 working 9 writing 8 usenet 8 wireless 7 boomers 7 country 7 feedback 7 games 7 golf 7 hacking 7 java 7 philosophy 7 photography 7 scifi 7 space 7 zines 6 boating 6 cooking 6 energy 6 filmmaking 6 lists 6 weird 5 bastrop 5 beatles 5 disability 5 earth 5 news 5 springkids 5 theater 5 veggie 5 water 4 aging 4 apple 4 buddhism 4 cars 4 classifieds 4 comics 4 drugs 4 eff 4 newyork 4 os2 4 outdoors 4 sanfran 4 tibet 4 wildlife"}, {"response": 2, "author": "docc", "date": "Fri, Jul 4, 1997 (09:55)", "body": "How about a conference on using personal conferencing skills to launch a shadow career. See http://www.cyberlyceum.com the General Conference for commercial online networking for one idea. There must be others too!."}, {"response": 3, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 12, 1997 (21:57)", "body": "Hmmm...here's one more vote for a) a Philosophy conference and b) a Christian conference...I'm willing to host either/both ~M"}, {"response": 4, "author": "Freedman", "date": "Sat, Jul 12, 1997 (22:21)", "body": "Hey Mike! Sounds cool to me, but how 'bout a Religion Conference too since that's a bit different from Philosophy? -Sterling"}, {"response": 5, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Jul 13, 1997 (08:29)", "body": "That's what I meant...a Philosophy Conference and a Christian conference. I don't think I'd be in a very good intellectual position to host just a \"Religion\" conference, being a Christian myself...:) ~M"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 13, 1997 (12:37)", "body": "How about a spirit conference? But Mike's been trying to get me to cut down on conferences and I'm looking for a way to have separate areas for a few very popular confrences and the lesser used conferences."}, {"response": 7, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Jul 14, 1997 (06:12)", "body": "Hmm...I *have* been asking you to cut down the conferences, that's true Terry. Perhaps I'd better heed my own advice and find out if there's actually any *support* for such a conference :) Better leave that one on the back-burner and I'll get back to you."}, {"response": 8, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 17, 1997 (17:33)", "body": "Okay...I'm going to refer to this in the Community conference, too, but it's relevant here. My sister has just had a baby (wahey! congrats, sis :) and seeing as her husband still works full-time, I get the feeling she is rather isolated. Remembering the infamous Parenting conference on the WELL, I thought it would be a good idea to have the same here. I'm sure a lot of people who use Spring are parents, and a good conference could be the result. However, and this is where I shall skip to the Community conference..."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 17, 1997 (21:24)", "body": "Congratulations to your sister!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "donnal", "date": "Tue, Aug 26, 1997 (14:12)", "body": "1. I'm interested in: science philosophy Chrisianity parenting just for starters. There doesn't seem to be much action here on any of these fronts. Am I missing something? I tried posting in the parenting conference, for example, but as far as I can tell, no one else has posted there in some time. I'm not trying to be sarcastic when I say that from what I can tell all the interest seems to be in Bronte or drooling. 2. Is there a better conference or topic to ask these questions?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "donnal", "date": "Tue, Aug 26, 1997 (14:13)", "body": "Heh. Also, is there no way to indent a line?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Aug 26, 1997 (16:23)", "body": "Hmm, spaces don't work. Yeah, right now Bronte, apps, and drool are the happening places. But we're looking into ways to pump up the other areas. Invite some other folks if you like."}, {"response": 14, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Nov 21, 1997 (11:20)", "body": "and you ought to handle the host position!"}, {"response": 16, "author": "CotC", "date": "Fri, Nov 21, 1997 (12:40)", "body": "Why, yes, I also am in favor of an Austin Cacophony Society. Funny you should mention it! I've been corresponding with some high Kapoop of the Seattle CS this week (I was gonna tell you at work tonight...) and he's supposed to be getting back to me about organizing an Austin branch (or whatever...)"}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (12:43)", "body": "Thomas, you work at Little Italy too? What a mad house it must be!! *smile*"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (17:28)", "body": "Whoa, you mean you're moving on?"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (19:11)", "body": "Movin' on to where? Thomas I mean."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (09:36)", "body": "There are a lot of high paying geek jobs in Austin. And you can break in to high tech real easily through a temp agency like XXCAL, Pedley Stringer, or Okeefe Associates. They can just about get anyone on any level a high tech job, employers are getting desparate!"}, {"response": 24, "author": "stacey", "date": "Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (11:17)", "body": "Here's my chance then!"}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (12:32)", "body": "Now, wait. Does this imply you want to come back to Austin?"}, {"response": 27, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Nov 26, 1997 (10:22)", "body": "*smile* I'm coming back to Austin to visit, that's pretty much the extent. I was telling Brandon last night that more and more, Austin is like a FABULOUS place to visit, seeming less and less like home. As you can imagine, these feelings are paired with a growing affection for Colorado. Right now, I'm in limbo with \"feeling at home\" but it's coming and I'm eager to have that comfortable sensation again."}, {"response": 28, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Mar 1, 1998 (16:17)", "body": "Hi Terry, everybody. I came snooping for an old discussion of linear vs threaded discussions as Myretta and I are trying to document some of our history before it's too long forgotten. The vc discussions are interesting. And I had an idea for a conference, based on a need we've heard voiced a few times at Pemberley: a repository for amateur romance fiction. Our fan fic board is limited to fiction written about Jane Austen characters, but some of the writers have branched out or have inquired if there is a place for stories not using Austen characters. As you know, Star Trek fanfic is legendary and has a huge following on usenet, and I understand X-Files stories have become quite popular, too. You might start with romance -- always a nice place to start anything -- and take off from there. -Amy"}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 1, 1998 (19:42)", "body": "I would love to do this, what new conference would be a good place to start. So wonderful to hear from you!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, Mar 1, 1998 (20:27)", "body": "What a terrific idea! Hope it comes about!"}, {"response": 31, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Mar 3, 1998 (19:45)", "body": "I'll keep my eyes open for this new thang..."}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (05:51)", "body": "So should I create a conference called romance? Would that be the first step to implementing Amy's idea. Back me up with some ideas here! And there are two new conferences to check out, news and genx. Both are full of topics and content already. Check 'em out. Genx is a blast from our past."}, {"response": 34, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (14:37)", "body": "How about a Women Only conference? Of course, to be fair, a Men Only conference would need to happen too. They would need to be 'private', admission after gender verification. And yes, Terry, I'll host the womens spot assuming you tell me how hosting and restricting or unrestricing access works."}, {"response": 35, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (17:36)", "body": "A writing conf. would be superb. We could have online stories, where everyone writes a chapter until we have a final story! Gender confs? Dunno....is there a place for \"girl talk\" and \"guy talk\" that's not already fulfilled? I personally don't really feel the need to have a private bloke conference. What do others think?"}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (20:38)", "body": "Sure, I'll be glad to set up a conference with you as host, Gena. And it will be a \"ulist\" conference where you have to be the host to add someone to the ulist or userlist. Whaddaya want to call it. Women?"}, {"response": 37, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Wed, Mar 4, 1998 (21:53)", "body": "I don't know... what was it over at ECHO? WON - Women On Net. I think that'll do. Unless there are problems adopting a name of another bbs conference. You'd know better 'bout that. If no problem, use the above suggestion and email me host-ly instructions please sir."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Mar 5, 1998 (03:18)", "body": "won is ok, if won is what you want, won is it. One more chance to decide. wos? (women on spring). women, won, or wos, or ? Any more input before I create it?"}, {"response": 39, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Mar 5, 1998 (06:46)", "body": "Spring Women... now that's catchy. Spring Women, Spring Women!!! Make it Spring Women. Please..."}, {"response": 40, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Thu, Mar 5, 1998 (06:46)", "body": "you can use two words, right..."}, {"response": 41, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 6, 1998 (01:41)", "body": "It has to be one word, fairly short."}, {"response": 42, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Mar 6, 1998 (09:32)", "body": "SHESpring?"}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 6, 1998 (20:30)", "body": "shespring would work, she would work, it just can't have any spaces in it. Gena, what think?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Mar 7, 1998 (18:38)", "body": "How about underscores (\"_\") in the place of spaces?"}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Mar 7, 1998 (19:27)", "body": "That would work, I'll toss it back to Gena for the final word on what it will be called. Gena, once more please, with feeling."}, {"response": 46, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Mar 8, 1998 (08:40)", "body": ":)"}, {"response": 47, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (14:20)", "body": "Hi y'all... i'm back from my big ski adventure. I think stacy has hit on the winner. SHESpring sounds absolutely fab-u-lous dah-link! Send that woman a TOOTSIE POP SUCKER on me.... what's your favorite flavor Stacy?"}, {"response": 49, "author": "stacey", "date": "Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (11:51)", "body": "yep. PEZ... orange flavored! Glad you approved Gena!"}, {"response": 50, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (12:08)", "body": "Pez... haven't had those in ages! I'm a 'Hot Tamale' fan myself, or cinnimon bears."}, {"response": 51, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Fri, Apr 17, 1998 (20:16)", "body": "love gummi bears!"}, {"response": 52, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Sat, Apr 18, 1998 (20:56)", "body": "did somebody say 'gummi bears'? my mouth is watering..."}, {"response": 53, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (18:26)", "body": "gummi bears! bouncin' here and there and everywhere!"}, {"response": 54, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (16:38)", "body": "do ya eat their heads off first??"}, {"response": 55, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (17:49)", "body": "pop 'em in full-bodied!"}, {"response": 56, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (17:39)", "body": "*nibble nibble*"}, {"response": 57, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (19:44)", "body": "you're a nibbler, eh?"}, {"response": 58, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (08:49)", "body": "just don't touch Autumn's ears!"}, {"response": 60, "author": "autumn", "date": "Mon, Apr 27, 1998 (20:15)", "body": "Bingo!"}, {"response": 61, "author": "Wolf", "date": "Mon, Apr 27, 1998 (21:03)", "body": "*lol*"}, {"response": 62, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, May 9, 1998 (00:23)", "body": "inre response #28: I would love to host any said repository on adultstory..."}, {"response": 63, "author": "autumn", "date": "Sun, May 10, 1998 (21:05)", "body": "Why, that comes as such a shock, wer! (*sarcasm*)"}, {"response": 64, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, May 11, 1998 (18:55)", "body": "i'd like to host an Infinity conference, since it's one of my favourite subjects :)"}, {"response": 65, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (20:46)", "body": "terry, is there a conf here on the spring analogous to the weird conf on the WeLL? we seem to have enough critical mass of weird springperns now to where something like that just might take off."}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (09:23)", "body": "We can start one. Can anyone think of a weird name for it?"}, {"response": 67, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (09:26)", "body": "i was thinking of \"screwed\" as the name of the conf!"}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (11:14)", "body": "Any other ideas? Or anyone second that one? We'll leave it open for a couple of days before launching this new conf."}, {"response": 69, "author": "riette", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:09)", "body": "SCREWED is good. It's versatile...."}, {"response": 70, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:15)", "body": "and rolls off the tongue easily, too, I might add..."}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:16)", "body": "... and it's catching on. Any more thoughts on 'screwed'."}, {"response": 72, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:16)", "body": "wer slipped me."}, {"response": 73, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (15:44)", "body": "hehe..."}, {"response": 74, "author": "autumn", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (21:08)", "body": "What is this conference about? \"Weird\" and \"screwed\" don't seem synonymous to me. (uh-oh, there's that word again...)"}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (23:56)", "body": "It's about stuff that's way over the edge. It's about letting your hair down and tossing aside your inhibitions. It's about getting as crazy and wild as you can. It's, well, weird. Or, uh, screwed. Maybe screwed up would be more descriptive. strange? odd?"}, {"response": 76, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (00:07)", "body": "You know, Autumn, our regular conversations..."}, {"response": 77, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (04:13)", "body": "Yeah, the old screwing around thing."}, {"response": 78, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (06:57)", "body": "What do you think for a name, Riette. We're still tossing this around. Screwed?"}, {"response": 79, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (07:37)", "body": "Defenitely! Everyone loves screwing!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (11:14)", "body": "I don't know, how about Discombobulated? Screwey? Babble? Blather? Babylon? BabbleOn?"}, {"response": 81, "author": "riette", "date": "Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (12:40)", "body": "How 'bout ScrewOn?"}, {"response": 82, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (11:59)", "body": "I would appreciate a Conference called \"International Conflicts\", to be able to provide focused topics on all these things that sometimes are religiously, politically or militarily slugged out. Appropriate topics from other conferences ought to be welcome there, too. Maybe this would also draw visitors from other places than Austin, Colorado, Switzerland or Frankfurt to the Spring. International folks, who report of conflicts in their area. Stuff that makes the news, and stuff that never makes the news. I guess if the Spring would \"market\" services like that to a more international community - perhaps also conferences on continents or areas, like AFRICA or SOUTH-AMERICA, EASTERN-EUROPE, ASIA, NEAR-EAST, MIDDLE-EAST, etc. - we (!) might gain more importance. People from e.g. Cuba discussing things, and reporting on state of affairs in their country, people from the balkans, etc. There are a lot of people in the internet - and a lot of peoples! (Admittedly, not all speak english; what to do?). What does the Spring say to my proposals? (Spring-time is proposal-time on the Spring, and these are mine to you. As is custom around this place at this time - two current cases proove the fact -, you mustn't refuse my plea.)"}, {"response": 83, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "sounds very intriguing... you wanna host your proposed conference?"}, {"response": 84, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:03)", "body": "sounds good to me! but we do have people from other parts of the world who visit. need to be careful that this place doesn't turn into something ugly, you know what i mean? a place for discussion/reporting not for slander and hate."}, {"response": 85, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (13:47)", "body": "Yes, there's always that. But it's part of live, and part of a community to live with things like that. I mean, look at what happens right now in the Kosovo, THIS really confuses me. I'd love to have a dedicated conference where we could have people discuss things, present view points, etc. Report on what they saw or heard. Here in Germany, news fail us miserably in this matter. Anyway, doesn't the Spring have hosts to straighten things out? Isn't this like a benevolent dictatorship? I would not think this would influence most other places that much - see how much traffic the whole DROOL thing has, and have my paths ever crossed with somebody regularly posting there? Not yet, and they don't bother about COLLECTING or MEDIA or GARDEN, etc. Wolf, do you think we should be brave and see what the world tells us? Or do you think I'm too naive on that area (might well be...). I think that would, ahem, be exciting, any which way..."}, {"response": 86, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (19:32)", "body": "i like the idea, Alexander. with regard to the benevolent dictatorship of hosts (love the expression): yes, hosts do have a certain amount of control over conferences. However, to my knowledge the tools aren't very well developed - in theory there is \"scribbling\" available, although the only way to do this seems to be through the web interface. also, sites/users can be banned from a conference, but i believe these settings can only be changed by the Yapp administrator, who is terry (and possibly wer - I don't know) so, whilst attracting lots of new ppl would be nice it seems to me that the tools required for dealing with them aren't yet in place. any comments anyone?"}, {"response": 87, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 15, 1999 (22:33)", "body": "Good idea. Cut the conference name down to one word like conflict and get in touch with the Jimmy Carter Institute in Georgia that tracks conflicts worldwide. Maybe they could get behind this? Go fer it!"}, {"response": 88, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (01:20)", "body": "I think you can scribble from telnet, too, although I've never tried...whenever Terry scribbles, his responses show that they have been scribbled, whereas mine are just blank... and as for banning, it is much easier to include a select group of sites/users than it is to ban the same... Give me a yes on the host question and a suitable one word title if you would prefer one other than what Terry suggested, and I'll set it up, Alexander! (well, you can say no as well I guess...)"}, {"response": 89, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (05:52)", "body": "Explain this scribble thing to me, pls. How to put annotations into already posted mail (with offensive content, e.g.)? E-Mail the answer, pls. I'd co-host as soon as at least two others are willing to share responsibility. I'd like the other two to be from different continents, too, so we have three hosts from three continents... Less bias, perhaps... Need not all be boys, either... What are the limits on naming conferences? Must it be ONE (1) word? Any more feedback, please. This ought to be discussed (& later okayed, perhaps) by more Spring-folks, too, or it's no good. Wolf is right about this likely not being as tame as e.g. Travels or Music..."}, {"response": 90, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (11:43)", "body": "when you scribble, you delete an already posted response, I'm not sure I understand your annotation question (maybe because I've only been awake twenty minutes and haven't had near enough coffee yet...) let me know when I should create the world conf..."}, {"response": 91, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (11:54)", "body": "or maybe worldviews would be a good name..."}, {"response": 92, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (11:54)", "body": "or globaltalk..."}, {"response": 93, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:13)", "body": "No, that's all slightly off my point. It's International Conflicts, because global would in may cases be too much, world - the same. What if this basically just impacts two small nations, or internal skirmishes, such as the Karen people vs. the Thai army (or was it Burmese?). With annotations I mean, editing a posting so you take out offensive stuff and leave Note of your censorship without deleting everything... Good morning, my friend. May your coffee be a good one! ************************************* Any suggestions to who would host with me? Any Africans or Asians on this here Spring who'd be interested? Please, I'd like to hear more people's opinions on this!"}, {"response": 94, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:27)", "body": "none I know of...currently just North Americans and Europeans... our former African turned European is currently unavailable in Africa... two cups down, more on the way..."}, {"response": 95, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (12:57)", "body": "We are strongly impacted here by these international struggles, more than you'd probably notice in the US. Perhaps that's why I feel a certain urge. But it must be supported by more people around here. When \ufffdcalan, leader of kurdish party PKK was kidnapped in Africa and flown to Turkey for prosecution, we had quite the uproar here. We already in the past had these people block motorways, drenching themselves (and german police) with gasoline. Some people set fire to themselves, to get some attention to their plight. This time, they stormed Greece institutions - embassies, tourism agencies - and kidnapped people for some hours. The attempt to storm the Israeli embassy in Berlin ended in Israeli security shooting several people, three of which died. Frankfurt was full with police in full riot gear, the Turkish embassy turned into a fortress. (This even lead to some important superstar-staff meetings in February not taking place: the city was partly not accessible, and the places we wanted to meet were all closed...) Today, I walked by Alte Oper (the Old Opera) in Frankfurt, and there was a stage, and people shouting and signs held up. It was a demonstration of Serbians, protesting the Nato-bombing of their country. In Frankfurt, many Serbians (and other ex-Jugoslavian people) live. The demonstrators were shouting that Nato would be killing civilians and destroying their homes. Some others were booing, shouting that the Serbians started destroying homes first. Lots of police there, but not as much as you'd expect. German politics are mainly behind Nato's attacks. Still, the people are not all happy about the first German military venture since 1945. Also, some are not sure NATO had a proper mandate to attack at all, no matter what cause this served. Still, Nato does what they do anyways, and in the meantime, thousands get killed every day. Since Jugovslavia attacked a village on Albanian soil, the aspect of \"commiting ground forces\" gains more plausibility. An event I seriously dread. Even after the ongoing large-scale fighting will be over, there are enough tensions on all sides to make living together extremely interesting. It's Bosnia all over again. I admit that things like this are a mess. But what do we know about it? Right, only what they tell us. We can't do anything. Or can we? With this tool here, everybody and every side could tell everybody else how they see things. Maybe somebody learns something. Maybe finally sees individuals on the other side, not just \"them\". Maybe we get the news they keep from us..."}, {"response": 96, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (13:45)", "body": "It is an excellent prospect, Alexander, the trouble is in advertising the conference and getting correspondants(sp?) and participants from everywhere so that the conference will be what it should be...I've been out of the global mail loop for a while and not sure if I can get back in... do you have \"connections\" on other continents?"}, {"response": 97, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, Apr 16, 1999 (14:05)", "body": "I'd have to rely on the Spring's regulars for that to start off. All my current WWW-accessing contacts are Europeans or Americans. Let's hear from our friends here first. It's important. (The other things come after that, and can been worked on, when it's time for it. Right now, I'd like to know more what other Spring-people think. And I'd like to learn more about a host's options and tools. Then we can rig it up - if agreed upon favorably by more folks here - and then work on populating it. And see if it works out.)"}, {"response": 98, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (06:53)", "body": "this conference sounds really really interesting, Alexander - great idea! going back to the scribbling/editing thing: i think that there is always a role that negativity can play in a post. so, perhaps, having a \"selective\" edit-out tool is not so helpful. To my mind a post either stays as a genuine opinion of a person (no matter how seemingly objectionable) or it is removed entirely because it blatantly flagrates one of the rules/customs. incidentally, do we have any rules/customs? :-)"}, {"response": 99, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (10:48)", "body": "i think it's all good in the end. i like worldview because this opens up for discussions on culture and opinions on different things up to and including conflicts. are you wanting a clashing of opinions type thing or are you wanting an enlightening fact finding conference on what's really going on? and we do have some rules of engagement...at least i remember discussing them but don't remember where in the heck they are."}, {"response": 100, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (10:54)", "body": "something tells me they were in porch somewhere....."}, {"response": 101, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (10:59)", "body": "porch or inner methinks (hi mike, how are you?)"}, {"response": 102, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (13:16)", "body": "inner has it's own...there used to be a page around here that you got to through help which had some useful tips, but that is all that I remember..."}, {"response": 103, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (13:07)", "body": "how about these names: worldnews truthquest now"}, {"response": 104, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (13:35)", "body": "Hmh, lemme think in me leedle head... Anyway, any more opinions, everybody? Should the Spring have a conference like that at all or not? Speak up, please!"}, {"response": 105, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (14:39)", "body": "or maybe just conflicts"}, {"response": 106, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (17:10)", "body": "i like conflicts....truthquest sounds a bit fluffy and worldnews maybe a bit too general?"}, {"response": 107, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (17:44)", "body": "International_Conflicts Conflicts_International"}, {"response": 108, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sun, Apr 18, 1999 (20:08)", "body": "possible..."}, {"response": 109, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (00:35)", "body": "the naming is done, InternationalConflicts is now a conference... (no topics yet, though...) Mike, do you want to be on the host list as well? Anyone else? (I know, I jumped the gun...so fire me...)"}, {"response": 110, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (10:21)", "body": "No way. Firing squad''s too busy right now, could send the fire fighters, though... It has topics now. It's gone live!"}, {"response": 111, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (19:33)", "body": "yippee!"}, {"response": 112, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Fri, May 21, 1999 (04:43)", "body": "OK, here's Mr Naive-Conference-Suggestor again. I would like to post on an excavation project here, where archaeologists have found the 2,500 years old grave and sarcophagus of a celtic warrior and noble man at a major celtic cult area in my county. Two years or so ago, they had found the intact (but for broken off feet) statue of a celtic prince, LIFESIZE! Where would I post this? Cultures focuses on current things or mindsets. Medieval obviously is no choice. News - well, today it's news, tomorrow it's - HISTORY ! Get me a History conf, pls."}, {"response": 113, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (05:03)", "body": "How about a Finance conference? The markets are hot these days and it might even bring in more people if advertised in the right places... Just a thought..."}, {"response": 114, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Nov 26, 2000 (18:53)", "body": "The is a moribund Business conference... you might check into it first and let Terry make you Host - it surely needs one. I was wondering if there was enough interest in Photograhphy for a conference. It has been mentioned to me a few times in the past, but I can always put it as a topic in Crafts?! Somehow seemd demeaning to do that, however. Comments welcome!!!"}, {"response": 115, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (01:41)", "body": "ahhh...I looked through the conf. list and didn't see that. I'll check it out. Probably needs a good dusting off."}, {"response": 116, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (07:24)", "body": "I'll be glad to set you up as host in business Mike, so great you're back with us!"}, {"response": 117, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Nov 27, 2000 (11:21)", "body": "It's good to be back :-) I hadn't heard a peep from you so I wasn't sure if I was still welcome or not :-) I've got a few ideas for graphics, etc., in business. Hmmm...it'll be fun to host that."}, {"response": 118, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Nov 28, 2000 (08:24)", "body": "There are only like 3 topics there! porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 90, "subject": "Todays Hot Topics on the Spring", "response_count": 90, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (07:00)", "body": "Soccer. Soccer. Soccer. OK, football! Sports 22. The 22nd topic in the sports conference has lots of updates on the red hot World Cup which is seeing matches with England and the US tomorrow (Friday). Even a romantic bit of a story from Korea. Don't miss it."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Mon, Sep 30, 2002 (09:32)", "body": "Why is the last Webtrends report showing April stats? Where can you see more current utilization figures?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Sep 30, 2002 (11:00)", "body": "I started to do the report yesterday but the download failed. I'll be updating it soon."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 22, 2002 (22:35)", "body": "Sniper. Topic 81 in news."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Oct 29, 2002 (07:44)", "body": "Sheryl Crow, she's a babe. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/babes/77/since/-7 In homage to drool, these fine babes are making their debut this week in Mike Griggs 'babes conference'. topic res title 72 1 Helena Bonham Carter 73 0 Jane Seymour 74 1 Emma Thompson 75 0 Justine Waddell 76 2 Kate Winslet It's just a coincidence that these 5 topics are sandwiched in between Miss Universe and Sheryl Crow."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (06:04)", "body": "Good news for your heart. See the heart topic in health for news, of a new more effective test for heart disease. And it's not a cholesterol test."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (06:06)", "body": "Why is Jiang still holding on to military power in China? You're going to have to check out the China topic in the news conference to find out."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (06:09)", "body": "Who is John Tsatsaragos? You'll have to voyage to the Geo conference to find out. He has sage comments on all of these topics today: 2 952 Vulcanism 24 876 Beyond Planet Earth 25 165 Natural Disasters: Drastic Changes in the Landscape 31 123 Geo Mysteries 45 34 Earth Medicine"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (06:11)", "body": "Who are Austin, Texas hottest news babes? http://www.spring.net/newsbabes Results of this years poll have been tallied and the top ten are revealed. You'll be surprised at the newcomers who have risen to number one and two. And find out who is Austin's all time news babe for the fifth consecutive year."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (06:25)", "body": "I have 3 questions for Joe, our English ambassador, about Newcastle. See the soccer topic in sports for the questions. I'll email Joe and give him a heads up."}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (07:20)", "body": "Who's Shari Fletcher and does she like Lord of the Rings and someone named Viggo? You'll have to visit the web conference to find out who she's drooling over. Topic 2 on cool websites. Clue. Viggo is \"Number two on my List of Men I'd Flip the Switch For.\" Who could number one be? http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/web/2/since/-30"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (02:36)", "body": "JFK. Was he deceitful or noble to hide his medical problems from the public. Discuss in politics. The Beatles just did a tribute to George Harrison in London. Read about it in topic 55 in the Spring's music conference. And talk about Paul's recent televised concert, wasn't it great?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (02:40)", "body": "In \"Grade A: The Market for a Yale Woman's Eggs,\" published in the December Atlantic, Jessica Cohen describes her experience as a potential egg donor being screened by a highly selective couple whose advertisement she first sees in the Yale Daily News. Loving family seeks exceptional egg donor with 1500 SAT, great looks, good family health history, Jewish heritage and athletic. Height 5'4''-5'9'', Age 18-29. We will pay EXTREMELY well and will take care of all expenses. Hope to hear from you. Cohen wonders, \"Should couples be able to pay a premium on an open market for their idea of the perfect egg?\" She ultimately withdraws from a process she thinks will create \"a child encumbered with too many expectations.\" Cohen suggests that perhaps modern-day Social Darwinists would support egg donation on an open market because \"modern success is measured largely in financial terms\" and therefore \"the most successful couples, eager to pay more, [should] have access to the most expensive eggs.\" What are the most important ethical questions this issue raises? Should the process of egg donation be regulated? How? Discuss in topic 49 in the (gasp) babes conference."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 4, 2002 (19:07)", "body": "I found what I think is a very neat application. If you go to http://www.wimba.com/tools/vmail/showroom.php you can record a voice email and send it to anyone you like. Send one to me! (terry@spring.net) I'd love to hear from you using this tool so I could hear you. I've been reading your posts for so long and I often wonder what the voices behind all the words are like! Tell me how your holidays are going and what you'd like to see more of on the Spring, I'll listen!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Thu, Dec 5, 2002 (04:42)", "body": "Hi all You have to feel sorry for the people of Sydney as a big bushfire outbreak, exacerbated by drought moves toward the city and towns on the outskirts. Australia has an annual bushfire problem, but this has been exacerbated by the worst drought in living memory and increasingly severe water shortages, which are hampering fire fighting efforts. The Murray-Darling River has all but dried up in many areas and in others, the \"Australian Nile\" is crossable on barefoot. Much water goes to waste through irrigation schemes, and 99% of total volume is used for power-generation/irrigation and industrial purposes in the M-D basin. As for the fires, well, they have been a given ever since the drought began in June which is the wettest time of year for the area, and the time when the weather is coolest. Humidity has exacerbated the fires by being very low and is falling as I type this. Anyway, if you feel for Australia, go to the Australia subject in the Travel category. Rob"}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec 9, 2002 (07:50)", "body": "What are we going to talk about today?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 2002 (20:15)", "body": "Have to peruse these goodies in the morning when I have more time. John Tsatsaragos is the most wonderful man. He, with his self-taught English has kept Geo alive while I was out traipsing around on the mainland with Geo's resident archaeologist."}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (10:35)", "body": "I'm posting on the new server. Annyone making it here yet?"}, {"response": 19, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 7, 2003 (15:38)", "body": "Looks great terry. I need to see if I can get rid of the holiday stuff and back to the Greek key horizontal bars."}, {"response": 20, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Mon, Jan 27, 2003 (02:49)", "body": "Hi all Please go to Geo Conference and visit number 64, where New Zealand has had a magnitude 5.6 earthquake that did a bit of damage. Alternatively you can go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldearthquakes (Marcia, this is the former World Seismicity) for detailed coverage. Rob"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 24, 2003 (11:30)", "body": "Marci made a comeback today and we're glad to see her. She's all over Geo, of course. The Grammy's were last night and there's conversation about them in the Odds and Ends topic in drool, in the music conference, and I made a little webpage for the event at http://www.spring.net/music/grammy.html There's a remarkable picture there of Norah Jones with her half sister Anouska Shankar showing off their buttocks tattoos side by side. The 'inside' scoop!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb 24, 2003 (11:31)", "body": "Spring has a new website of interest in the Austin Texas area: http://www.austinmayor.com is about the upcoming Austin Mayor's race. There's a topic about this in the politics conference."}, {"response": 23, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 27, 2003 (10:53)", "body": "Today hot topic, Marc Katz. See http://www.austinmayor.com"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 28, 2003 (09:10)", "body": "Our newest site http://www.austinmayor.com is getting loads of hits but google just won't index it for some reason. Never had this happen before. What's wrong with what I'm doing? I have the meta tags and all in place. And it's linked from lots of other sites."}, {"response": 25, "author": "wer", "date": "Tue, Mar 4, 2003 (14:16)", "body": "What do you mean by \"won't index it\"?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "janc", "date": "Wed, Mar 5, 2003 (11:11)", "body": "Users interested in trying out a new interface to spring.net might try following the following URL: http://www.spring.net/yabb-bin/pw/backtalk/abalone A couple notes: - Your usual login and password will work. - For now, at least, the \"drool\" conference is not accessible via this interface. This is deliberate. - Navigation is mostly through the pull-down menu in the upper right hand corner. - You can flag items as \"favorites\". These are shown first when you read a conference. By default, items you enter are automatically flagged as favorites, and items you respond to are automatically flagged as temporary favorites (just until the next time you read them). - There is a spell checker. - HTML can only be included in responses if you select \"Pure HTML\" or \"Lazy HTML\". You can set a default on the prefences page. - Fairwitnesses and (maybe) authors of items can retitle them. Any user can set a \"private title\" to be shown instead of then standard title. - Users can enter various personal information, if they like, which other users can see. - There are several other different looks that can be selected from the spring.net home page. Pistachio has a good feature set, but is not as pretty. The others are more primitive. - If you notice problems, or have questions, please Email me at mailto:janc@unixpapa.com or enter something in the Backtalk conference."}, {"response": 27, "author": "janc", "date": "Wed, Mar 5, 2003 (11:13)", "body": "Oops, typo above. The URL is http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/pw/backtalk/abalone"}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Mar 5, 2003 (13:44)", "body": "A lot of the conferences aren't working now in abalone and in the other interfaces. You can't access them. Have you looked at this?"}, {"response": 29, "author": "janc", "date": "Wed, Mar 5, 2003 (23:11)", "body": "Which conferences?"}, {"response": 30, "author": "wer", "date": "Thu, Mar 20, 2003 (00:43)", "body": "re posts #24 and #25 above...Google has finally crawled austinmayor.com"}, {"response": 31, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 20, 2003 (14:34)", "body": "Thanks for bringing it up. Bigger thanks for posting in Geo again! I really should look into Abalone if I am going to be associated with it or backlash or whatever it is. Terry, I still can't FTP but that is not news. That my Eudora is jammed and my ISP refuses to unjam it is most worrisome. Outlook express is taking up the job now but I have lost many things people have written to me andI to which I have not yet responded. *SIGH*"}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Mar 20, 2003 (14:38)", "body": "Maybe it is just me, but I cannot access the backtalk/abalone website."}, {"response": 33, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Mar 30, 2003 (11:36)", "body": "It should be working now that we have the bugs out. I'd like to talk about the Open Directory project and how we can best implement it on our site."}, {"response": 34, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 1, 2003 (01:06)", "body": "Hmmmmmm have we a topic anywhere for that? Please let me know. Despite open chaos here, Geo keeps me sane!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Apr 1, 2003 (01:07)", "body": ""}, {"response": 36, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 2, 2003 (20:01)", "body": "I'll start a topic in the web conference."}, {"response": 37, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 5, 2003 (21:05)", "body": "Thanks!!!"}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 6, 2003 (10:26)", "body": "Topic started. http://dmoz.org is the home of the ODP."}, {"response": 39, "author": "janc", "date": "Mon, Apr 7, 2003 (11:26)", "body": "Re #32: Were you ever able to get Backtalk/abalone to work for you? The link on www.spring.net works fine for me. Should just be http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/pw/backtalk/abalone If you still have problems, please post details, or mail me at mailto:jan@unixpapa.com . I'm very interested in getting this working for people, and finding out what new users think about it."}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 8, 2003 (00:14)", "body": "Abalone is working fine."}, {"response": 41, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Apr 19, 2003 (17:54)", "body": "Abalone is, indeed, working well. Yes I have been there sniffing around. Thanks for reminding me!"}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 20, 2003 (22:00)", "body": "abalone rocks more than the others in my experience. bubblegum is for kids, literally."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 20, 2003 (22:08)", "body": "Kids in grade school actually used bubblegum."}, {"response": 44, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 20, 2003 (22:44)", "body": "I remember that program! I think there are sites on the web that still use it."}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Apr 21, 2003 (11:39)", "body": "There's a school that still uses it. Or at least they have an archive of it that's still readable. Jan knows the url. It may be on his site. http://www.unixpapa.com/backtalk/ Booktalk is a variation of the Backtalk system developed for the Canton Public Library PULSE system. It designed to be used in schools, with conferences for each classroom under the control of a teacher and all-school conferences shared by all. You can see the original site at http://pulse.cantonpl.org/ . Just download the backtalk, bubblegum, and booktalk packages and follow the installation instructions in the booktalk package to install them. (from Jan's page)"}, {"response": 46, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 22, 2003 (22:32)", "body": "wait a sec--what's this backtalk/abalone business?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Apr 23, 2003 (10:05)", "body": "On the Spring.net main page there is an option called \"abalone\" that gives you another interface to read through conferences."}, {"response": 48, "author": "janc", "date": "Fri, Apr 25, 2003 (12:17)", "body": "It's a bit confusing. Once upon a time, before the Internet was invented, there was a computer program called \"PicoSpan\". It was written by an friend of mine name of Marcus Watts. It was used in a number of important early computer conferencing systems, most famously \"The Well\" and was, within a certain small community of users, wildly popular. But two bad things happened to Picospan. First, the company that bought the rights to it from Marcus vanished in a puff of grime, taking the rights to it down into a legal black hole that few would dare to explore. Second, the world wide web was invented, and people started wanting a web interface. In the less distant past, an acquaintance of mine, name of Dave Thaler, decided that implementing a clone of Picospan would be a cool project for his software engineering class at the University of Michigan. I suggested he call it \"Yet Another Picospan Program\" - Yapp. He did a nice job of writing a program that was virtually indistinguishable from Picospan, and started selling it to people who desperately wanted Picospan, but could not figure out how to get a copy. It soon became obvious to Dave that there was demand for a web interface, so he developed a modified version of Yapp that worked on the web. This is the conferencing system that has been running on Spring for many years. Back in 1996, several other systems I used found a need for a web interface to Picospan. Yapp couldn't be used because it cost money and it didn't have a working web interface yet. So Steve Weiss and I decided to write a new program. We couldn't base it on Picospan or Yapp, because that was proprietary code. So we wrote a new program, called Backtalk. It's completely independent from Picospan, but you can use it to read Picospan conferences, because it understands the Picospan data file formats. Unlike Yapp or Picospan, Backtalk is free, open source software. Backtalk consists of a core program that does all the hard internal stuff, and several sets of scripts that construct the user interface - they determine what the pages look like and how the buttons behave and so forth. The are several different sets of scripts, called \"flavors\". To the user, different flavors can look like a very different programs, but they are really all the same and access all the same conferences. The two most mature flavors are called \"Abalone\" and \"Pistachio\". Abalone is the slickest, Pistachio is old-fashioned but more feature rich. There are others that are all a bit half-baked: bubblegum, papaya, vanilla. Backtalk is on Spring.net as a sort of experiment. The theory was that since Backtalk is built to be 100% compatible with Picospan, and Yapp started life as a Picospan clone, it ought to be possible to run Yapp and Backtalk on the same conference database. Arbornet.org experimented with this briefly, running both Backtalk and Yapp for a while. However, the site administrators deleted Yapp after a week, so it wasn't an extensive test of compatibility. The experiment here on Spring has been mostly a success, but it's been rougher than I expected. Lots of very tiny differences keep showing up in the way Yapp and Backtalk store things, and I keep having to iron them smooth. Still from a users point of view, things work pretty well. You can use the various Backtalk interfaces to do pretty much everything Yapp lets you do, but with a different look and feel. The main limitation on the Backtalk interfaces is that they have been banned from the drool conference. Backtalk has only a few features that Yapp doesn't have, so mostly using Backtalk instead isn't going to gain you any dramatic improvements. At this stage it is mostly a matter of taste. You might like Backtalk better than Yapp. You might not."}, {"response": 49, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Apr 25, 2003 (12:28)", "body": "thanks jan, i really do get it now! is that what yapp really stands for? *LAUGH*"}, {"response": 50, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 26, 2003 (20:29)", "body": "Spring Server is going down for about 10 minutes now. It's 7:30 pm CST on Saturday night."}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 26, 2003 (20:30)", "body": "Final notice, server going down now."}, {"response": 52, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Apr 26, 2003 (20:31)", "body": "Should be back around 7:45 pm CST."}, {"response": 53, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 27, 2003 (09:42)", "body": "The system reboot went smoothly and only interupted service for about 10 minutes, we've discovered that one of our hard drives has crashed, the primary one on the system. But since we're running RAID (redundant hard drives) we didn't lose any data. But we're going to have to buy another hard drive pair to replace the defective pair. I'll be talking to Karen about bundling this upgrade in to our April/May/June fund raising drive. We're ok for now, but I'd like to not be running on a single, nonredundant drive for much longer. I'll be doing a backup this evening, so things will run slow tonight. Don't be surprised if it takes longer to pull up web pages etc. tonight because the server will be churning a lot, backing up data."}, {"response": 54, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Apr 27, 2003 (10:02)", "body": "The recommendation is to get either a pair of Seagate Barracuda 120 gb drives or a pair of Western Digital 120gb drives. Circuit City might have a sale on Western Digitals so I'll check there today when they open at 9. Some Circuit Cities were selling them for $10 after rebates but that sale ended Saturday. I wish I had become aware of this a little sooner! I see CompUSA has them for 79.99 but it's if you buy something else for $150 or more. They have Western Digital 160 gb drives for 129.99 after the 100 mail in rebate so it's 229.99 at the counter. Just checked, Circuit City's 120 gb Western Digitals are 159.99."}, {"response": 55, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 27, 2003 (13:21)", "body": "go to frye's and see what they have---they seem to sell a lot of stuff for decent prices."}, {"response": 56, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 27, 2003 (15:26)", "body": "actually it's fry's and their website is outpost.com"}, {"response": 57, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, May 2, 2003 (19:14)", "body": "Just when I thought I was current on things PC, and treading water as fast as I can, a whole new set of stuff comes online for me to learn. *Sigh* Ia m still doing telnetting to keep up my skills. I hate not having a mouse, though. We are, indeed, creatures of habit! Fry's is where I got this much-travelled laptop! On the Outskirts of Sacramento."}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 16, 2003 (13:05)", "body": "Origins: Another cruel real-life example of the shocking degradation of women, or a big put-on? That's the question being raised about Hunting for Bambi, a Las Vegas-based business which purportedly offers \"hunters\" the opportunity, for $10,000, to stalk naked women and shoot them with paintball guns. According to the Hunting for Bambi site, their business is: More shocking than anything you've ever seen before. Labeled by CBS News as a cross between Sex and Violence a deadly combination! Women are being hunted down like animals and shot with paintball guns. This Raw and completely Uncensored video is a cross between Bum Fights and Girls Gone Wild and is sure to be the topic of many Howard Stern Show fans. You will be completely stunned when you see some of the wildest, most outrageous moments ever caught on tape. This is without a doubt one of the sickest and most shocking videos ever made. When it comes to hunting women if you can think of it we probably show it. Women are screaming with fear as our Team Bambi hunters track them down and blast them with paintball guns . . . Contributing to the public's belief in this venture was a local Las Vegas television station, KLAS-TV, running a non-probing news feature on Hunting for Bambi (complete with footage of \"hunters\" in action) and proclaiming it to be real. Discuss this in the news conference topic 88 Hunting for Bambi"}, {"response": 59, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jul 24, 2003 (17:15)", "body": "It's hilarious/sick"}, {"response": 60, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 26, 2003 (00:36)", "body": "i heard on the news today that it was a hoax........"}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 26, 2003 (02:46)", "body": "I would think so because of the liability issues. Chalk it up to a \"myth\" and a successful publicity grab."}, {"response": 62, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Jul 26, 2003 (07:09)", "body": "Yup, a hoax indeed. Highly amusing, though! Just watch somebody go and do it for real now..."}, {"response": 63, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sat, Jul 26, 2003 (11:34)", "body": "you guys need to go to truthorfiction.com if you ever want to know what's up with some of these things we see through the email or otherwise."}, {"response": 64, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul 26, 2003 (12:38)", "body": "There are also excellent hoax sites onlline. I use them whenever I get warnings that \"the sky is falling \" and our computers will be dust by morning."}, {"response": 65, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jul 27, 2003 (13:52)", "body": "I have no doubt the paintball project will surface elsewhere. It is funny in my mind to see what might happen!"}, {"response": 66, "author": "alyeska", "date": "Sun, Jul 27, 2003 (20:36)", "body": "I'm glad to see a post from you. I've been checking but haven't seen any for a long time, Marcia."}, {"response": 67, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 2003 (12:13)", "body": "Lucie, I am on my way to a new life far from the negativity of Hawaii and surroundings there. More in email !"}, {"response": 68, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Sat, Oct 11, 2003 (05:41)", "body": "Kia Ora The Rugby World Cup has begun!!! 20 nations, 44 days for 48 games. Defending champions are Australia. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/sports/59 Can the mighty Wallabies hold the trophy against the terrifying All Blacks of New Zealand, the roaring Lion of England, the cunning Springboks of South Africa, or the dark horse of France? HEAR THE STADIUMS OF AUSTRALIA ROAR!!!!!! Wait until you hear 100,000 Australians defy the meddling International Rugby Board with \"Waltzing Matilda\". It is truly awesome. Rob"}, {"response": 69, "author": "AotearoaKiwi", "date": "Tue, Oct 14, 2003 (02:15)", "body": "Kia Ora Got to mention the best place to get Rugby coverage at the World Cup. http://www.foxsportsworld.com/rugby The United States is bravely competing. Well done America. Rob"}, {"response": 70, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 18, 2003 (21:47)", "body": "Read about sports drinks in the sports conference. New topic. OK I'll lead off. My sports are basketball, football, soccer, golf, tennis, badminton, volleball and roque primarily. I drink Gatorade Strawberry Kiwi in the plastic bottle and the twist cap. I'm also trying a beverage called \"Trek\" just like the bicycle. Has anyone tried it? It comes in a nalgene (\"I just found out that nalgene is a durable, clear freezeproof, smash proof, rugged type of plastic\") bottle and has of those deals climbers use. What are they called, Caribiners or something like that? I hear it's more common out West, it's rare here. The Trek. I refill those Gatorade and Trek bottles with spring water from Whole Foods in Austin. We don't have our own reverse osmosis on our well yet. I like Mad River \"Red Tea\" and I've heard of another beverage called soy20 that's about to be released. I may have to mail order some, it's not locally available. What's your sport and drink of choice while playing/competing? Gator Ade sure. But surely there are higher perfomance sports drinks. Whatt would be interesting to find out is which one is most nourishing and which one helps your perfomance the most. What is your sport? What is your sports drink of choice? Why? Do you even think about this?"}, {"response": 71, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov 24, 2003 (20:39)", "body": "my fave sports drink is water, for obvious reasons (and i don't like gatorade) but it mostly depends on whether or not i'm participating or spectating (spectating-then a Coke)"}, {"response": 72, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Nov 25, 2003 (11:55)", "body": "Read my \"summer watch\" chronicle of the seasons in the \"austin\" conference, and find out how and why I guage the passing and coming of summer by the termperature of the water in my swimming pool."}, {"response": 73, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 29, 2003 (18:03)", "body": "Nalgene is the most expensive plastic labware made but is also inert and durable. Save the containers and put lots of water in them. Without a doubt, you need more water than anything else! I thought by sports drinks you meant Mint Juleps or some such,,,"}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 30, 2003 (21:00)", "body": "Nope, I have a bunch of bottles here of Trek, and it seems to really work for running, swimming and just generally working out and staying balanced and hydrated. I need to get someone to take a picture of me holding up the carabiners with Trek beverages hanging off of them. It's a great sports drink for high performance athletes."}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 30, 2003 (21:15)", "body": "http://trekenergy.com"}, {"response": 76, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 18, 2003 (17:48)", "body": "Don't miss Nightline with Ted Koppel tonight. It's about how 9/11 could have been avoided. There's more about this is the Nightline topic in the news or the tv conference. Take your pick. These topics are cross linked."}, {"response": 77, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Dec 19, 2003 (11:45)", "body": "i didn't watch it but the news said the white house was to blame. what's the point of pointing fingers at who could've prevented it? there was an intent, and they took advantage of whatever weakness they found.....and in their delusion, the event created heroes of every sort."}, {"response": 78, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 22, 2003 (19:43)", "body": "More 20-20 backward vision. Armchair quarterbacks never miss. How come they are not running the world? It is so easy..."}, {"response": 79, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 22, 2003 (19:45)", "body": "Meanwhile I fly my flag and dare anyone to find a better country in which to live or which to defend. Try taking out the USA with a hypothetical meteorite strike. Who would save the world from the truly evil, then? Think about it!!!"}, {"response": 80, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 24, 2003 (09:25)", "body": "Who would save the world from a meteor? That would be us."}, {"response": 81, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Dec 25, 2003 (19:40)", "body": "of course... *smile*"}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 2, 2004 (06:26)", "body": "An interesting anti-aging event is going on in Chicago on August 20-22. Find out more at the health conference's newest topic which I created today. or if you want to find out quickly: http://www.worldhealth.net/p/4236,5850.html"}, {"response": 83, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Sep 29, 2004 (18:20)", "body": "new poem in the poetry corner--check it out..."}, {"response": 84, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 2004 (08:33)", "body": "The Presidential Debates, in politics and news."}, {"response": 85, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 2004 (08:34)", "body": "The annual Spring football pool. In the sports conference."}, {"response": 86, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 11, 2005 (10:29)", "body": "In the tv conference, I ask, which of these shows should become the subject of the next topic that I create: 24 Adult Swim Amazing Race 6 American Dad American Dreams Animal Planet in my soup Babylon 5 Bittorrent for downloading tv from the net Carnivale Cartoon Network Charlie Rose Deadwood ER Gilmore Girls House Iron Chef It Takes a Thief Jeopardy! MSNBC NCIS Numb3rs NYPD Blue Project Runway Queer TV Shield Simpsons Simple Life Stargate Atlantis Stargate SG-1 Survivor Winter 2005 That 70's Show Veronica Mars Wonderfalls"}, {"response": 87, "author": "dot", "date": "Sun, Feb 13, 2005 (05:06)", "body": "Survivor Palau"}, {"response": 88, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (18:26)", "body": "Not sure they're hot topics again, but I've started posting in Food again. Trying to answer old questions that were left hanging around..."}, {"response": 89, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Oct 16, 2005 (20:00)", "body": "Thank you for that. Jeopardy and/or Charlie Rose are my choices."}, {"response": 90, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (15:36)", "body": "Mid summer pledge drive. Make donations to the Spring, Firth, Austen, et al at this paypal account banking@wholetech.com porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 91, "subject": "ryze.com", "response_count": 8, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (08:02)", "body": "http://www.ryze.org is the address. Some folks I know are already there (Will Kreth, Jon Lebkowsky, Arabella Clausen, there is a home city search in something called pivot according to Leb' and I intend to make that the next thing I try. They have tribes. One thing we lack on the Spring is a place for peoples bios and I'm thinking about setting up a conference called 'bio' where each topic would be a persons bio with their picture and inforamtion about their interests."}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (13:30)", "body": "is this the latest in \"networking\"?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (13:35)", "body": "Yep, this is the latest, greatest, hottest, hippest, coolest game in town."}, {"response": 4, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (16:48)", "body": "and it's free for now, 'ey?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul 21, 2002 (20:24)", "body": "Free for the most part, you have to pay for some of the advanced features."}, {"response": 6, "author": "arabella", "date": "Sat, Aug 3, 2002 (13:45)", "body": "Ryze is pretty good, but there is some controversy about their current privacy policy, so you might want to read that before joining. The owner, Adrian Scott, is supposedly revising it to make it more... community friendly."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 5, 2002 (10:08)", "body": "What kinds of contacts have you made on ryze, arabella? Has it resulted in any business opportunities, etc.?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (15:37)", "body": "Wow, social networking has come a long way in the last four years. Now we have myspace.com, del.icio.us, and http://stumbleupon.com porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 92, "subject": "dance Austin", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Nov 22, 2002 (19:04)", "body": "My favorite dance places/activities are Nia on South Congress and Body Choir on South Lamar. Following that would be salsa, which abounds around Austin."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (02:11)", "body": "from http://www.trancedance-austin.com/ Trance Dance In Austin Trance Dance is a doorway. When we dance, we open a portal into another reality \ufffd a way of seeing into the reality that is \"bigger than us,\" an entry into non-ordinary reality, the Shadow, the joy. Sources of wisdom beyond reason and rationality. Spirit. Dancing In Darkness With our bandannas firmly in place, we intentionally eliminate a significant portion of our way of perceiving our reality. No longer engaged in the overwhelming experience of sight, our other senses become keener, awareness of body is enhanced. Within the darkness, our inner experiences have nowhere to go and nothing on which to project, except the blank, black screen behind our eyes. What we see, what we experience is ... ourselves. No one is there to feed back our projections; nothing to tell us what is self and what is \"other.\" It is all Self. The music moves us, guiding our bodies with the heartbeat of rhythm and currents of melody. In the darkness, we know that we can be ourselves. No one is watching ... no one can see how we move, or who it is who is laughing or crying with themselves. And we dance until the music stops. How long has it been? Lying on the cool floor, we soak up the rich energy generated by the music and whirling of ourselves and the others in the Dance of our dances. Soft music plays. Someone says, \"You may remove your bandanna,\" and we begin the journey back into the \"real\" world of external sight. As we gather in the circle, we become aware that the dance is not over. It will continue in the nights and days to come: in dreams, in the little synchronicities generated by our intent. Trance Dance In Austin Trance Dance \ufffd spiritual dance \ufffd has been presented in Austin since 1995. Introduced to the area by Wilbert Alix, Director of the Natale Institute International, this introspective and transformational ritual experience is presented several times each month."}, {"response": 3, "author": "admin", "date": "Fri, Jan 3, 2003 (10:10)", "body": "I went to a Nia class recently and it was a blast."}, {"response": 4, "author": "root", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 2003 (12:31)", "body": "test."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 2003 (13:19)", "body": "test2"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 23, 2003 (13:24)", "body": "test3 porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 93, "subject": "gooble adsense", "response_count": 5, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 7, 2003 (17:49)", "body": "So far it's been on our site for just a few hours. 59 impressions 26 clicks 44.1% clickthrough rate $18.57 earnings So, if you support Spring, Firth, Austen and the other websites we host, please go to spring.net's main page and click on the google text ads! It will help our community survive."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 8, 2003 (14:27)", "body": "The idea is not just to click on the links on http://www.spring.net but to actually find useful information behind the links. Of those of you who clicked on the links, have you found anything useful after you clicked on them?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 9, 2003 (22:18)", "body": "Will you please help me pick which color scheme to choose for the google ads on spring.net? Just go to this page and click on the ad that you find most pleasing: http://www.spring.net/adsense Then come back here and tell me which of the color schemes you like. Or you can click on it here if you like! aqaudoodle: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"DFF2FD\"; google_color_bg = \"DFF2FD\"; google_color_link = \"0000CC\"; google_color_url = \"008000\"; google_color_text = \"000000\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > black and blue: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"000000\"; google_color_bg = \"F0F0F0\"; google_color_link = \"0000FF\"; google_color_url = \"008000\"; google_color_text = \"000000\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > black knight: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"333333\"; google_color_bg = \"000000\"; google_color_link = \"FFFFFF\"; google_color_url = \"999999\"; google_color_text = \"CCCCCC\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > blue bird: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"003366\"; google_color_bg = \"003366\"; google_color_link = \"FF6600\"; google_color_url = \"99CCFF\"; google_color_text = \"FFFFFF\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > blue suey: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"191933\"; google_color_bg = \"333366\"; google_color_link = \"99CC33\"; google_color_url = \"FFCC00\"; google_color_text = \"FFFFFF\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > blue whale: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"6699CC\"; google_color_bg = \"003366\"; google_color_link = \"FFFFFF\"; google_color_url = \"AECCEB\"; google_color_text = \"AECCEB\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > cumulous cloud: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"B0E0E6\"; google_color_bg = \"FFFFFF\"; google_color_link = \"000000\"; google_color_url = \"336699\"; google_color_text = \"333333\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > cut grass: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"A8DDA0\"; google_color_bg = \"EBFFED\"; google_color_link = \"0000CC\"; google_color_url = \"008000\"; google_color_text = \"6F6F6F\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > fresh mint: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"B4D0DC\"; google_color_bg = \"ECF8FF\"; google_color_link = \"0000CC\"; google_color_url = \"008000\"; google_color_text = \"6F6F6F\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > grape skin: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"CC99CC\"; google_color_bg = \"E7C6E8\"; google_color_link = \"000000\"; google_color_url = \"00008B\"; google_color_text = \"663366\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > green taffy: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"E0FFE3\"; google_color_bg = \"E0FFE3\"; google_color_link = \"0000CC\"; google_color_url = \"008000\"; google_color_text = \"000000\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > green tea: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"578A24\"; google_color_bg = \"CCFF99\"; google_color_link = \"00008B\"; google_color_url = \"00008B\"; google_color_text = \"000000\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > it's a girl: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = \"468x60_as\"; google_color_border = \"F9DFF9\"; google_color_bg = \"F9DFF9\"; google_color_link = \"0000CC\"; google_color_url = \"008000\"; google_color_text = \"000000\"; //--> src=\" http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js\" > melancholy blue: google_ad_client = \"pub-8863011327992796\"; google_ad_width = 468; google_ad_height ="}, {"response": 4, "author": "Beedee", "date": "Sat, Aug 9, 2003 (23:37)", "body": "I like cumulous cloud. You?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Aug 27, 2003 (12:58)", "body": "I just scrolled past that and read \"cunnilingus cloud\". Guess I must have other things on my mind ;-) porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 94, "subject": "What next?", "response_count": 13, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Aug 27, 2003 (13:58)", "body": "We've got a pretty thriving community over at http://www.hermitscave.org/forum"}, {"response": 2, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Aug 27, 2003 (13:59)", "body": "what I meant to say, is that I rather like the (free and open source) conferencing software there - didn't mean the first post to be an advert :-)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Sep 11, 2003 (20:29)", "body": "i have to think about what to add next...."}, {"response": 4, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (18:13)", "body": "did anything ever come to mind?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (19:32)", "body": "i don't even remember what we were talking about....hold on a sec and lemme check!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (19:33)", "body": "checked and no, i didn't *frown*"}, {"response": 7, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (19:33)", "body": "we were actually on topic..."}, {"response": 8, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (20:35)", "body": "no way.....how could we let that happen?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2006 (15:08)", "body": "Not sure, but I did notice that staying on topic kept the conversation far shorter!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Mar 26, 2006 (16:09)", "body": "You will discover that keeping on topic makes wer a dull boy, and just as it makes me dull, perhaps we can come to some sort of middle ground on this. Let me get back to you on keeping the conversations going. But not going for the sake of adding to quantity. I assume we are after quality, too?!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (15:38)", "body": "Quality trumps quantity any day, wer."}, {"response": 12, "author": "WERoland", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (19:35)", "body": "Until you haven't had either for awhile, then anything will do..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (21:25)", "body": "Yes, something trumps nothing. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 95, "subject": "summer watch", "response_count": 7, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 31, 2003 (21:21)", "body": "Each swim now is precious. I was in the pool at least two hours day and swam a lot of laps, did a bunch of fun stuff and my wife jumped in for a while. Tonight, the summer smell of night jasmine is strong, in the heat of summer the smell is downright pyschedelic. I'm thinking of flipping on the lights and going back in for a while, drunk with the surprise reprise of summer. The pools at 69 and dipping with the night. It's cloudy tonight but there are no promises of aurorae from the northern climes. Just a warm night with the crickets and frogs chorusing and the call of the waters. A frog lost his way in to the pool today, I need to find him and point him in the direction of Cedar Creek. TiVo or the pool. I think no brainer. The water."}, {"response": 2, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Nov 2, 2003 (10:11)", "body": "summer's over here-it left with the onslaught of cooler temps (low 60's)....."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 2, 2003 (19:48)", "body": "Summer. Still going here. I just got out of the pool. Water is 71 degrees. I have a vision for Cedar Creek to be the physical embodiment of this community and I sketched out this vision at http://spring.net/springwater What do you think of this vision and what I am trying to convey here. I realize I'm about a year away from delivering all this. But three good guest rooms are on line and a fourth will be done soon. It's about the Spring Inn at Cedar Creek. And what do you think of a Spring Festival?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Mon, Nov 3, 2003 (11:04)", "body": "Long gone here. Leaves are on the ground, dark by 5pm, cold enough to need coats outside..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 3, 2003 (12:27)", "body": "Still hanging in here. Goin' swimin' today."}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Mon, Nov 3, 2003 (18:53)", "body": "i like your idea--a bed and breakfast maybe? the community pool is heated but i think it's closed (it'll stay open through october at least)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Nov 3, 2003 (21:04)", "body": "It would encompass a bed and breakfast. It would be an event place hopefully, with dancing, yoga, nia, writers groups, fan groups, companies and other folks who want to get out in a lush setting out in the woods, with all the technological acoutrements you could imagine. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 96, "subject": "Spring 2004 Hardware Fundraiser", "response_count": 15, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 1, 2003 (14:49)", "body": "Our main page to go to help out is http://spring.net/contribute"}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 29, 2003 (14:55)", "body": "OK, I'll do it!!! What is new? I had to get in frojm Google. Have things changed or has my PC been more messed up than usual?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Nov 29, 2003 (18:08)", "body": "I know what the problem was. I still had this computer configured for LAN. I had to reset lots of programs for access. *sigh*"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Nov 30, 2003 (20:59)", "body": "Whew! Glad you're back with us! You're the woman!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Dec 22, 2003 (17:29)", "body": "Donation sent. Merry Christmas fronm Geo!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 24, 2003 (09:23)", "body": "Thank you so much Marci! Merry Christmas!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Mar 26, 2004 (12:31)", "body": "This message is primarily to Geo and the rest of the Spring, I acknowledge the generous contributions made by Drooleurs during the Fall Pledge Drive. We recently had a call from our \"colo\" or colocation facility that we needed to replace a motherboard. It turned out we did not need a motherboard after further checks. Had it been a motherboard, the Spring would have been down for 3-4 days. So, we're having a fund raiser to raise the money to keep a spare motherboard on hand to reduce our downtime in case of a motherboard failure to hours instead of days. We also had one of the six hard drives in Spring crash and it needs replacing as this drive is our backup safety net and we're limping along without it now. Here is what we need to be able to come back online quickly in case of a real failure of the motherboard, a cpu or memory module. And the cost of the replacement hard drive. 405.00 P3TDDE Supermicro Motherboard 109.00 512k memory module 95.00 IBM Hard Drive 120 mb 609.00 total Please send paypal contributions to bank@spring.net Or mail your checks / money orders to The Spring 182 Clover Rd Cedar Creek, TX 78612 With your help, I can build an effective safety net to protect our server against hardware failure. We had our wake up call, now it's time to really prepare!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "KarenR", "date": "Tue, Apr 27, 2004 (14:41)", "body": "When is Spring going to get back to normal? with our backgrounds and buttons. Also the confifty option isn't working either. I've had a lot of emails from people who are having a hard time getting around without these amenities."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Apr 29, 2004 (10:56)", "body": "We're working on it. I just talked to John, who has the old server ont he bench and he wants to make totally sure we can rely on this server before we migrate back. In the meantime, I'm fund raising in Geo and around the Spring to build a third server so we'll be triple redundant in the future. I'll talk to wer today about his procedurs to get those backgrounds and buttons."}, {"response": 10, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Oct 12, 2004 (21:55)", "body": "it's been awhile since my last donation (oh, that sounds like a confession) but do you have any updates on the fundraising?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Oct 13, 2004 (06:33)", "body": "It will be soon, since this is around the time we do our annual fund raiser."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Mar 7, 2005 (16:53)", "body": "What got censored and scribbled on drool was my reference to the new martha stweart topic in the news conference."}, {"response": 13, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Jul 21, 2005 (12:01)", "body": "how are we doing on expenses for 2005? i'm having issues with paypal in that \"they\" sent me something to update my account but i was too scared to do it so may have to start over with them. paypal had a scam going on with a lookalike. shortly after the \"account\" update email, i received a quarterly report. the account update said that my account had been suspended because of unauthorized attempted use of my credit card, checked my card statement and thankfully, nothing went on but i am still a bit nervous. just a caution to all the paypal users out there."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 22, 2005 (14:29)", "body": "Haven't collected much yet for expenses. Drool takes care of the basic server costs, but not day to day expenses."}, {"response": 15, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (15:39)", "body": "New fundraiser! Make paypal donations to banking@wholetech.com We're funding a new server and a years hosting paid in advance. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 97, "subject": "", "response_count": 3, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 22, 2004 (08:37)", "body": "Hi Julie! please post something we can read!"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Aug 2, 2004 (05:24)", "body": "Is this a test to see if you can create a topic without a title?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 1, 2004 (07:33)", "body": "Topics without titles should join a support group. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 98, "subject": "The Dark Ages", "response_count": 14, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, May 11, 2004 (12:12)", "body": "It is. But not for drool. Drool likes Yapp. But for other sites, I'm doing some testing. Navigate to this page Mike, pleae, and give me your opinion on these solutions. I just did a failed install of bbBoard2 on http://webarter.net where I'll be testing some of these solutions. http://spring.net/bbsoftware.html is where I have listed some potential bbs solutions we could use. Which one do you like?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Jun 3, 2004 (19:04)", "body": "Good stuff, Terry. If you're looking at PHP/mySQL combinations, there's no reason to go and pay for software. Beehive ( http://beehiveforum.sourceforge.net/ ) and phpBB ( http://www.phpbb.com/demo.php ) are two free ones. The former is a direct copy of DelphiForums, whereas phpBB is the message board that you see almost everywhere!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jun 5, 2004 (10:11)", "body": "Which of the php/mysql boards is easiest to install and maintain yet still has the requisite set of features?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Oct 15, 2004 (06:32)", "body": "Beehive installs in minutes, and is easy to maintain. I've never used phpBB as an administrator, although I have it on good authority that it's not hard. Beehive would be great replacement software for this place..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 15, 2004 (07:27)", "body": "I'll take a look. So many choices."}, {"response": 6, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 2004 (05:47)", "body": "I tried to create an account on the Wiki-like thing, but no joy. I was expecting to receive an e-mail with a password, I think, but it never arrived."}, {"response": 7, "author": "zx6rider", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 2004 (09:34)", "body": "got ya beat Mike... I successfully created a tiki account and DIDN'T mean to."}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Oct 29, 2004 (11:35)", "body": "Yeah that wiki thing ain't quite ready for prime time."}, {"response": 9, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Sat, Oct 30, 2004 (15:16)", "body": "ah OK, as long as I know I'm not missing out on anything."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Oct 31, 2004 (07:47)", "body": "When there's a stable version I'll try installing it again. How's the venture, Mike?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Thu, Nov 11, 2004 (08:23)", "body": "yeah, venture's pretty good...stressful, though."}, {"response": 12, "author": "dot", "date": "Mon, Feb 14, 2005 (11:32)", "body": "What's the latest Mikie?"}, {"response": 13, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Oct 11, 2005 (01:14)", "body": "Has Mike fallen into a black hole? Please check in. I am also curious."}, {"response": 14, "author": "cfadm", "date": "Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (15:39)", "body": "He's back around some. porch conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 99, "subject": "LAST HORROR MOVIE", "response_count": 1, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 3, 2004 (10:45)", "body": "No, no plans. But you could you please enter topics like these in the movie conference? porch conference Main Menu"}]}]}