{"conf": "projects", "generated_at": "2026-04-26T08:00:02.954878Z", "threads": [{"num": 3, "subject": "childrenstory.com - spoken and written stories for kids", "response_count": 86, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (12:27)", "body": "http://www.childrenstory.com is going to be linked to the front page of http://www.tvpc.com The idea is that kids will get these stories over televison with the new set top boxes that are coming out. So the resultion has to be different than it would be if this were being developed for a website that was going to be viewed on a computer monitor. So things have to be a bit bigger. But not too much bigger. Right now the gifs and text are a bit too big, wouldn't you say?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (05:55)", "body": "] gifs and text are a bit too big, wouldn't you say? ___ Yes, the main page title gif is so wide I have to scroll over horizontally to see the right-most part of it. I have a 14-in NEC monitor. What is the first step. What do they need the most? More stories?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (08:42)", "body": "You asked what we need. More stories. Tape recordings of folks reading stories. Help with html. Help with graphics. Help setting up a Realaudio server. More critiquing and commenting! Some research on other similar sites on the web that we could link to and possibly get permission to use their content."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (08:47)", "body": "The updated content for Childrens Story is at: http://www.webwords.com/children Angie Dugan is doing the preliminary version and I'll be moving this over."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (12:31)", "body": "I resized the gifs and played with it a little, but I really need some creative help on this site. I'm hoping someone will step forward and work closely with me on this one."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (11:08)", "body": "Amy, did you get my email about the staging area. This and tvpc are our number one priority right now. I'll be out of pocket till tonight or early tomorrow. But take a run at the staging area if you're so inclined! There are no limits on what you can do. We're looking to gather more usable stories and illustrations. There are a few hundred illustrations that need stories and identifying that are in a subdirectory on the site."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (22:49)", "body": "Buddy says Project Gutenberg texts may be the answer to finding classic chidrens tales. Anyone ever hear of Project Gutenberg?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "Amy", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:44)", "body": "I get the newsletters, Terry."}, {"response": 9, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (07:36)", "body": "] Amy, did you get my email about the staging area. ___ No."}, {"response": 10, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (07:46)", "body": "] I resized the gifs and played with it a little, ____ I think I like the layout at http://www.webwords.com/children better. It does fit on my screen and seems bolder and more modern and kid-like to me than the staggered type. The way you had the Chidren's Story logo type before, both words strung along the whole screen, causing me to scroll over to see it all. Looks like Angie did it in two gifs so the words would break or not depending on monitor size and resolution. Or you could force a break between the words. How important is it that the pages look good on a monitor too? # users with settop boxes vs computers? Where could I go see a settop box in action? Or should I just think \"Sega Channel?\""}, {"response": 11, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (12:44)", "body": "I'll move the webwords content over."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (21:35)", "body": "I put realaudio in /usr/local/realaudio You can get cooledit to make real audito files Who will volunteer to put up some childrens stories via real audio? The RA Server is on barton To launch the server: bin/pnserver server-conf Test the Server by playihg a file from the Server. For example, to play sound1.ra: pnm://barton.spring.com/sound1.ra You can get coolesit, which you need to edit realaudio filees, from the apps conference topic on cooledit."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (21:44)", "body": "Email mailto://terry@spring.com for details on payment schedules for content production on childrenstory."}, {"response": 14, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  1, 1997 (06:32)", "body": "cinderella.html pussinboots.html ws_ftp.log images sleeping.html princesspea.html theuglyduck.html www# pwd /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/1page The theuglyduck.html file needs to be revised. The directory is above and the server is www.spring.com rojo has permission to revise this area. Also, doug."}, {"response": 15, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  1, 1997 (15:40)", "body": "What we need to do: 1. proof all stories 2. add content to the story I pulled today 3. create an interactive story 4. mix in Mary's voiceover intro on the main page 5. surf the net for more stories and get permission to use them. 6. upgrade realaudio server Who will be doing what? What can you do Mary? What can you do Doug and Laura?"}, {"response": 16, "author": "minter", "date": "Tue, Jul  1, 1997 (23:27)", "body": "I will proof and correct existing content. Also, I will add content when I am allowed access. Today, I got Andersen and Grimm fairy tales to which we can add graphics from the CD Jonathon supplied you. If I could get access tonight, I can begin."}, {"response": 17, "author": "doug", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (03:43)", "body": "I found a fresh version of HC Andersen Ugly Duckling from my library of 50s & 60s kids encyclopedias (8 volumes) of childrens stories etc (copyrighted 1963). I will convert the text and layout the basic pages. Mary, let me know which one you are working on so we dont do the same stuff. I read several other versions of the story that are already posted on the www. They all seemed edited for time periods and were all different. I like the version I have, I will email page when its done. I want to know who is doing what so we can be productive. I have hundreds of old stories like this in What Doug & Laura (Glaze Studio)can do; 1. webpage design 2. text editing 3. story creation & producion 4. original illustrations 5. photography including all scanning and conversions 6. realaudio recording & encoding"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (11:08)", "body": "I'll spend the next three days working on this (Fri, Sat, and Sun), if you all are going to be around we can communicate here and on the phone and get Jonathon's site to a much higher level. We're beginning to communicate as a team and that is good!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "doug", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (11:43)", "body": "Terry, I need to talk with you about posting pages to the site call me 219-1433 or page me 834-5112"}, {"response": 20, "author": "doug", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (11:45)", "body": "The Ugly Duckling by Hans Christian Andersen That summer the country was particularly beautiful, and it was glorious to be out in the green fields and meadows. It was so amusing to see the white stork parading around on his long red legs and to hear him talking Egyptian, a language he had learned from his mother. In the midst of the sunny meadow stood an old farmhouse. It was surrounded by a deep canal, and from the walls down to the water grew burdock shrubs so tall that children could stand under them. It was so nice and shady there that a mother duck decided it would be a good place to sit on her nest and hatch out her young ones. At last one of the eggs cracked open, and then another and another until eight new little yellow ducklings poked out their heads and cried \"Peep! Peep!\" \"How big the world is!\" exclaimed the ducklings. They were glad to be out of those tight little eggs, and their mother was glad to let them look around at the leaves, for she knew how good for the eyes the color green is. \"But this isn't the whole world by any means,\" she told the ducklings. \"There is much more of it. It extends far beyond the other side of the garden. Maybe we can all go there sometime. Let me see now; are we all here?\" She looked around and saw that one of her eggs, the largest, had not yet hatched. \"Oh, dear,\" she said to herself, \"I am so tired of sitting on eggs! I wonder how much longer this is going to last.\" But she sat down on the nest again and waited some more. At last the big egg cracked and broke open. Out came two big feet and a head. But it wasn't a soft little downy yellow head like the other ducklings. This one was big and white, with a long scrawny neck and a fuzzy body. \"My, my!\" exclaimed the mother duck when she saw him. \"He certainly doesn't look like any of my other children. I wonder how he got to be so funny-looking?\" \"He's ugly!\" quacked the other ducklings. \"He doesn't look a bit like us. We don't want to play with him.\" And they waddled down to the pond with their mother behind them. She shoved them in and jumped in after them. The all swam beautifully. \"I'll bet that big ugly white brother of ours can't swim!\" exclaimed one of the little yellow ducklings. But the ugly duckling had followed them down to the pond and , seeing them all swimming, he jumped in and swam too, at least as well as any of them. \"On my word!\" exclaimed the mother duck. \"He certainly can swim, big and ugly as he is! He must be my own child, and, after all, he's not so very ugly if you look at him right.\" The next day the mother duck decided to let her ducklings see something of the world. \"Come along,\" she said, \"and I'll introduce you to the animals in the poultry yard across the meadow. Stay close to me now, all of you, so you won't get stepped on. And look out for the cat.\" When they got to the poultry yard, a terrible fight was going on. \"Dear, dear!\" said the mother duck. \"People are always fighting!\" But she gave her ducklings their first lesson in good manners too. \"You see that big haughty-looking duck with the red ribbon around her leg?\" she said. \"That means she is a very important person - a Spanish grandee, in fact. Now, I want you all to curtsy to her politely.\" They did it, nicely too, but the Spanish grandee took one look at the poor ugly duckling and bit him in the neck. \"You leave him alone!\" commanded his mother. \"He may not be as pretty as some, but he has a sweet disposition, and he is the best swimmer of the lot. Besides, he'll look better when he grows up. He won't seem so big and awkward then.\" But all the creatures in the yard made fun of the ugly duckling just the same. The ducks pushed him and the chickens teased him and the turkeys bit him. Even the girl who fed the poultry kicked him. And his very own brothers and sisters were so mean to him that he felt just terrible. One day, when he couldn't stand it any longer, her decided to fly away. He flew over the barnyard fence and on and on, weary and unhappy, until he came to the marsh where the wild ducks lived. When they saw the poor duckling, they said, \"My, how ugly you are! But we don't really mind as long as you don't marry any of us. You can stay here if you want to.\" The poor duckling was very grateful and lay down to get some much-needed rest. But at that very moment two shots rang out, and two wild geese fell down dead in the marsh. A hunter had shot them, and the ugly duckling was frightened almost to death. He bent down and put his head under his wing until the gunshots stopped. When they did, it began to rain, and soon it was pouring. But the duckling didn't care. He had to get away. So he half run and half flew over many fields and meadows, though he was drenche by the storm. At last he came to a miserable little shack that seemed to remain standing only because it didn't know which way to tumble down. The door hung open crookedly, and the duckling slipped in out of the rain. Inside he found a woman with a pet cat named Sonn"}, {"response": 21, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (13:17)", "body": "I forwarded a copy of this to Jon for approval. Very cool, Doug. That was fast!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "doug", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (18:42)", "body": "The Hare and The Tortoise Once there was a Hare who used to laugh scornfully at a Tortoise because he plodded along so slowly. \"You never can get anywhere with those short legs of yours. Look at my long legs! They're so swift no one would dare race me.\" All the animals of field and forest were tired of hearing the Hare brag. At last the Tortoise said, \"If we were to run a race, I'm sure I would beat you.\" The animals were astonished for they knew the Tortoise was the slowest of them all, and the Hare, bursting into loud laughter, cried, \"What a joke! That slowpoke thinks he can beat me! Come on, Mr. Tortoise, you shall see what my feet are made of. Why I can beat you before you are even half-started!\" \"You'd better not be too sure,\" cautioned the Tortoise/ All the big and little animals gathered to watch the race. At the signal the Hare leaped forward in a great bound and soon left the plodding Tortoise far behind him on the dusty road. Looking back, the Hare could not even see the Tortoise after a little while. \"Hum-m, I've as good as won this race already,\" the thought, \"There's really no reason to hurry.\" So, as the sun was very warm, he decided to rest a bit under a shady tree. \"I'll come in away ahead of that Tortoise, anyhow,\" he told himself. Soon he was sound asleep. the little rest streched into a good long nap. Meantime, the Tortoise jogged steadily along on the hot, dusty road, ever so slowly, but surely, and soon he passed the Hare who was still peacefully sleeping. Quietly the Tortoise plodded on nearing the goal. When the Hare finally woke up with a start, he saw the Tortoise just reaching the finish line far ahead and he could hear all the animals cheering the winner. Boastful and careless, the Hare had lost the race. Now he would never again be able to count on his speed. Moral of the story: Perseverance wins the race"}, {"response": 23, "author": "doug", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (18:43)", "body": "Terry, do you have some URL's that show interactive style you like?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul  3, 1997 (07:08)", "body": "I do but not right here that I can get at right now, yahoo has some great pointers to childrens stories on the net, try doing some searching and see what's out there and then post the url's here. Then we can possibly contact some of these folks about carrying their content on children's story."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul  4, 1997 (08:57)", "body": "Jonathon wants three things of Mary, Doug, myself and our team. He discussed these with Mary. He feels like we're behind schedule. 1. He wants the Mary Cavanaugh logo above Childrens Story. 2. He wants the real audio recording of Mary on the front page. 3. He wants more stories, including a new interactive story. Actually, he wants a fourth thing: he wants the site proofed for errors and he wants gentler versions of the childrens stories. Some of them are a bit harsh by the standards they want to meet. He wants it done today, or Sunday at the latest. He's look at the site several times a day hoping to see some changes. What do we anticipate charging him for doing these things and who is doing what piece?"}, {"response": 26, "author": "larue", "date": "Sat, Jul  5, 1997 (04:57)", "body": "index.html permission denied... can not upload to files in childrens story I have access but not permission"}, {"response": 27, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul  5, 1997 (15:48)", "body": "Then upload to your personal directory and email me when you do and I'll move them. In the meantime, I'll fix it so you can ftp directly."}, {"response": 28, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul  5, 1997 (15:58)", "body": "OK I fixed it: >What is the command to give users access to their dedicated websites for >ftp purposes? For example, with the user jonathon and the website tvpc.com? Edit /etc/group and create a group containing all of the users that need to modify the web site, then type: chgrp -R group /path/to/web/directory chmod -R g+w /path/to/web/directory find /path/to/web/directory -type d -print | xargs chmod g+ws where 'group' is the name of the group you create, and '/path/to/web/directory' is the directory where the tvpc.com, for instance, web pages are stored. The user can then log in or use ftp to write into these directories. chgrp -R realaudio /var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com chmod -R g+w /var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com find /var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com -type d -print | xargs chmod g+ws Test it out Doug."}, {"response": 29, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul  7, 1997 (16:08)", "body": "Still waiting for Mary M, Sharon and Laura to check in here. I spoke to Mary this morning and she said she would be checking in. I helped Sharon get her account set up and she may be checking in to her topic. Abram checked in earlier today. Hopefully, we'll all start touching base here soon and this will become an effective project integration/managment tool."}, {"response": 30, "author": "rojo", "date": "Mon, Jul  7, 1997 (17:33)", "body": "Doug and I will be getting more children stories typed. I am not able to check from home, since my system is not working to get connected to my provider, and at work I cannot spare much time, so all the items I do will be given to Doug. thanks, Laura"}, {"response": 31, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul  7, 1997 (17:42)", "body": "What's it going to take to get you connected from home Laura, your provider is io?"}, {"response": 32, "author": "minter", "date": "Mon, Jul  7, 1997 (21:50)", "body": "Hi, here's another entry since I'm not certain what happened to the one I had just begun! Wonders of electronics. Children's site is much improved. Thanks, Doug and Laura. I am working on Sheri's project, and cannot get a Grusendorf file from the URL she gave me in her FAX. Will have to talk to her or her contact tomorrow."}, {"response": 33, "author": "doug", "date": "Tue, Jul  8, 1997 (02:11)", "body": "I fixed a few small things today but have not yet seen the audio file. I will deal with it then I have to spend some time on my Threadgill's acct. this week but will have time for posting more work on http://www.childrenstory.com"}, {"response": 34, "author": "doug", "date": "Tue, Jul  8, 1997 (02:17)", "body": "Paul, Let's set up a Glaze Studio project. I would like to add one audio file and link in laura's new pages to Glaze ( http://www.io.com/~larue ) as well as doing this for various artists we write about in capcity.possibly work on this in a week or so after... ya know all these things."}, {"response": 35, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  8, 1997 (08:13)", "body": "You can co-ordinate with tedchong@spring.com with the realaudio server stuff. Also, we're getting Chris Spurgeon to build a Realvideo server as soon as I find out about Progressive networks upgrade policy."}, {"response": 36, "author": "rojo", "date": "Tue, Jul  8, 1997 (18:33)", "body": "Terry, I am goint to try to check all the information with a friend of mine over the phone tonight. BTW, the last page on the interactive story on childrenstory shows back to HOME page, but when you click on it, it takes you to file not found. Same thing with the button saying, do you want another interactive story? You may also want to add the links on some of the pages on type, for people who do not have computers supporting graphics. Laura"}, {"response": 37, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  8, 1997 (20:18)", "body": "Laura you have hit on the single most important thing on our site right now, to replace the example interactive story with another interactive story. We can get one by surfing the net and finding one and asking permission to use it. Or we can create one from scratch. It would probably fit in better with Jonathon's zero tolerance for waiting time schedule to surf around and find one that we could get permission to use. Is this something you would be willing to undertake? Text links are also a fine idea, especially for the benefit of blind and sight disabled folks."}, {"response": 38, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  8, 1997 (21:02)", "body": "Some priorities Jonathon has for the site, based on a phone conversation tonight: fix Puss 'n Boots text fix language in Rose Red (eg. \"hussy\") we need at least two nursery rhymes we need to grab a lot of stories from yahooligans site (arp soup) we need to put up a bunch of fairy tales Mary, will you please post the current scope of work that we're doing for Jonathon and what he expects for the amount we have quoted him. What of the above falls under this and what do we need to talk to him about as supplemental work? I talked to Doug about some of these things but just missed Sharon and Mary heading out the door at Mary's place. We're getting closer to all getting on the same page and keeping our customers happy. Participating in this projects conference is crucial as a mechanism for keeping everyone in our workgroup informed and not letting any aspects of this \"fall through the cracks\"."}, {"response": 39, "author": "del", "date": "Wed, Jul  9, 1997 (05:32)", "body": "will do!"}, {"response": 40, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul  9, 1997 (11:44)", "body": "I just put cs.ra in /usr/var/www/rafiles on www.spring.com This is Mary Canaugh's introductory text. We can add this to the site now Doug. Ask Ted Chong for details on teh realaudio server mechanism."}, {"response": 41, "author": "larue", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (07:38)", "body": "I have re-worked the 1st page slightly as well as other links , home links etc. I added a new story, The hare and the Tortoise. We have four more stories, including a nursery rhyme. I will add clip art to those were it is suitable."}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (08:14)", "body": "Mary Minter, project manager for this, needs to post a statement of deliverables and a projected deadline. Mary, can we please have this today. This needs to be a comprehensive statement of what we're delivering and when we'll be done with this phase one and we need to *quickly* move to put toghter a statement of deliverables and an action plan (who does what) for the next 7 days so the site can be ready for webtv's main page."}, {"response": 43, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (10:54)", "body": "How about a what's changed page for the childrenstory site Doug, which details chronologically what has changed and what is new? That would also serve as a record of your work. Any luck with the Mary Cavanaugh audio file? any qeustions about this. What do we lack on this site?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (15:18)", "body": "Mary assures me we will have a statement of deliverables soon. And either she'll post it here or I'll post it here if she emails it. I have tohave this by tonight at 7 pm because I plan on getting all this done tonight for a Friday billing."}, {"response": 45, "author": "minter", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (15:29)", "body": "1) \"Mary Cavanaugh\" added to the logo. 2) Adding audio file as intro. 3) New stories with graphics (Doug to note total) TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR ABOVE TO BE BILLED = $400 to Glaze Studio (Doug and Laura) 4) Research and account management by Mary = $250 5) Spring.com services = ? (Paul to add) TOTAL INVOICE = $850"}, {"response": 46, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (16:08)", "body": "The Spring's charge is $200 which is the unallotted portion above. It will be an additional $325 to install upgrade to the Realaudio Server. Doug, willyou submit and itemized list of the new stuff on the site that you've done and what you plan to do under the current statement of deliverables and what you can do under the next statement of deliverables?"}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (16:10)", "body": "Originally, I thought Jonathon approved $800, has the additional $50 been approved by him Mary?"}, {"response": 48, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul 10, 1997 (16:11)", "body": "Mary, please itemize as detailed as possible everything that you've done on this project so I can include this stuff in the invoice."}, {"response": 49, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (03:17)", "body": "Laura & I did the research that was used, that should be added to our total."}, {"response": 50, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (08:06)", "body": "Glaze Studio 1st Statement: Research and trancription of 3 new stories = 3.25hrs @ 40.00/hr 130.00 Fairy tale-Ugly Duck, rhyme -3 lil Kittens, Fairy tale the wind & the Sun Design & production: 1hr. @ 75.00/hr. 75.00 \"Mary Cavanaugh\" title art Html Design & Production 65.00/hr. 195.00 Total for 1st invoice 400.00"}, {"response": 51, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (08:09)", "body": "Let us know when your part is complete and I'll invoice Jonathon."}, {"response": 52, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (08:11)", "body": "Free Samples... Sample Illustrations: duckling spot illus the first illus. located on the ugly duck story is a 50.00 image The second image, the swan at the bottom of the page is 75.00 ea. Larger images that are more involved will be estimated by their description."}, {"response": 53, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (08:13)", "body": "It is complete now Terry. we are very close to being ready for a second invoice"}, {"response": 54, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (08:24)", "body": "Html design work completed for second invoice: reworking of all intro pages, things like aligning text, removing spaces, repositioning graphics, adding graphic links to ad pages from the rhymes intro page and the interactive stories page, consistancy throughout, corrected the interactive stories intro page by continuing the CS.com style and adding the tugboat graphic and the real audio link. I also created the \"tortoise & hare\" title graphic and added clipart to the page. I will post the finished html pages of the new fairy tales today sometime. Laura came up with an idea for an interactive Alphabet story that is very promissing, more on that soon. Music sounds better now is it changing slightly. The middle of the song is more fun and bouncy! I also created the tortoise & hare graphic and added clipart to the page"}, {"response": 55, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (08:35)", "body": "I haven't checked yet and don't have a sound card here, is the Mary Cavanaugh voiceover working?"}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (12:47)", "body": "Check out yahooligans, everyone. http://www.yahooligans.com/Art_Soup/Books_and_Reading/Stories/Interactive_Stories/ is a possible source for interactive stories, fairy tales, etc. and there is supposed to be free text that we can grab there too, according to Jonathon."}, {"response": 57, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (13:40)", "body": "The Mary Cavanaugh recording is not working. I've asked Jonathon for another one. Jackpot! gopher://ftp.std.com/11/obi/book/Fairy.Tales/Grimm"}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (13:44)", "body": "jackpot again! http://itpubs.ucdavis.edu/richard/tales/links.html"}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jul 11, 1997 (13:47)", "body": "And another great source for content: http://www.yahooligans.com/Art_Soup/Books_and_Reading/Stories/"}, {"response": 60, "author": "doug", "date": "Mon, Jul 14, 1997 (10:19)", "body": "Terry, Which site do we have the OK from to swipe stories?"}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 14, 1997 (12:25)", "body": "None yet. Except the public domain stuff on yahooligans. These are text only versions."}, {"response": 62, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Jul 18, 1997 (20:34)", "body": "Just checking in we will need to invoice again soon. When can I expect to see any payment on the first invoice? Just wondering, I/m not trying to hurry you."}, {"response": 63, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jul 19, 1997 (13:58)", "body": "I'm hoping we can all get paid for the first round next week and get approval for another round of work. Since we didn't actaully get approval as I had thought for the first round, I still have to do that and make sure Jonathon is satisfied with the work that is done and that we have met his expectations."}, {"response": 64, "author": "doug", "date": "Tue, Jul 22, 1997 (19:22)", "body": "come over tonite Terry, and bring some chineese food. not too spicy now! call me if can make it 219-1433"}, {"response": 65, "author": "doug", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 1997 (01:12)", "body": "Terry, I have a new client whom I think you may want to meet, We have invited him over for dinner and I would like you to come also, How about Thursday?? Let me know"}, {"response": 66, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 1997 (14:10)", "body": "Sure, sounds good."}, {"response": 67, "author": "doug", "date": "Tue, Jul 29, 1997 (02:36)", "body": "What did you think of the award spring has won from capitol city?"}, {"response": 68, "author": "doug", "date": "Tue, Jul 29, 1997 (02:37)", "body": "Thurs. about 8pm for dinner. Any word from Jonathan?"}, {"response": 69, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 29, 1997 (19:21)", "body": "He's on vacation till the 5th, we won't hear from him till then. Thursday dinner is ok."}, {"response": 70, "author": "doug", "date": "Fri, Aug  8, 1997 (19:47)", "body": "I have added the Wind & The Sun as well as two others that we did and were holding off on uploading till the first invoice went through. They are already in the file so what the hey I dont want to do more work to pull them out. Lion & The Mouse and Fox & the Stork. The latter two will be added to the 2nd invoice. We have several other stories we can add at any time after we get paid for the 1st & 2nd invoice. You should allow me to speek with Jonathan to help solidify his confidence. We are way ahead on work that we have already done. As I have said in past postings to this conference we have done a bunch of invisible site managment improvements, ie, correcting broken links or poorly designed layout and link flow through on interactives etc. as well as adding original art and new story content. We have done much more than is currently invoiced so as long as he is aware that this work has been done he should have no problem paying us. We have to make him expressly aware of every single change and addition so he understands how much work has already been done and will continue to be done for him. Waiting for approvals and not communicating all that has been done will continually slow down the growth of this site. We should set up a deal with him for xxx.xx dollars per month for site growth were he can expect a certain amount of work to be done reguardless of what exactly is done. He pays and we report the work on a monthly basis. Th s way he is never out more than is expected and he is never paying a big chunk up front. (no more than one months worth of expected work)"}, {"response": 71, "author": "doug", "date": "Sat, Aug 16, 1997 (01:36)", "body": "Where are you Terry, I have paged you several times over the last week to no avail. Whats up??"}, {"response": 72, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Aug 16, 1997 (22:19)", "body": "My pager is on the blitz. You can call me if you like. I'm home nearly every evening."}, {"response": 73, "author": "doug", "date": "Thu, Aug 21, 1997 (13:55)", "body": "What is your home #? I cant find it."}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Aug 21, 1997 (21:54)", "body": "I added the http://www.childrenstory.com/tales/unicorn/unipage.html Crystals and Unicorns story and linked it from the front page."}, {"response": 75, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (09:20)", "body": "I have a small paying gig for someone. Get our childrenstory logo on webtv. We already have a link to childrenstory from webtv under their favorite websites. We need our little dog with the bouncing ball logo there. That would be \"way cool\". Moolah for webbed type work! Who will take on this project?"}, {"response": 76, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (16:22)", "body": "more info? paying gigs are a good thing when you're as skint as I am :)"}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (16:30)", "body": "Email the webtv folks and find out how you get custom icons on their web favorites section when you tune in to their web tv site. We need to get our childrenstory icon on there. Or maybe they have a developer section at http://www.webtv.com ??? When you log on to Web TV you get a few choices and one of them is to look at sites *they* have picked out as cool. We happen to be one. And cs (childrenstory) is in the childrens section on reading or stories or something. We are just a dumb looking generic logo now and we have this cool little puppy dog with an animated ball we'd like to be. Much cooler! It's going to take some digging to find out. But it would be a big help."}, {"response": 78, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (18:29)", "body": "um..slow down. spell out exactly what you want doing (in non-US speak :) and i'll go digging."}, {"response": 79, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (19:14)", "body": "Need to find the place where children's story is on webtv, have someone with webtv show you, it's under favorites. And you'll see what I mean."}, {"response": 80, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (20:25)", "body": "ymmm...i have a feeling that we haven't even got WebTV over here yet :)"}, {"response": 81, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (23:51)", "body": "yep, because it is definately not gettable-to from the web alone..."}, {"response": 82, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (09:15)", "body": "Maybe the answer is here: http://developer.webtv.net/docs/faq/Default.htm"}, {"response": 83, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (09:16)", "body": "What is the WebTV Viewer? The WebTV Viewer is a free program for your PC or Macintosh that lets you browse the Web in a similar way to the WebTV experience. (The WebTV Viewer reproduces layout changes caused by the way WebTV displays your pages, but not TV side effects such as blurry, small text in graphics.) Web developers can use the WebTV Viewer to check their Web sites for problems and to preview Web pages under development. You can download the WebTV Viewer for free from http://developer.webtv.net/ ."}, {"response": 84, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (09:20)", "body": "They also have a forum where I posted a question about this. Maybe another developer will come along and answer this."}, {"response": 85, "author": "mikeg", "date": "Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (15:00)", "body": "aha...i'll check out that URL terry"}, {"response": 86, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (12:23)", "body": "This is Donna S. Atwood's work (bratwood@well.com) She's offered to do some stuff with us. projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 31, "subject": "", "response_count": 0, "posts": []}, {"num": 34, "subject": "sanfernandocathedral.org", "response_count": 10, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  9, 1998 (22:20)", "body": "If it's on another isp, the other isp has to initiate a domain transfer request which can be found on http://www.internic.net These are the toughest transfers, because we don't control our own destiny. The current isp has to do it or the owner can do it with a fax to the Internic. The domain name transfer group is the biggest pain in the butt in the Internic disorganization, and you can tell them I said that! Did you log in to access.spring.net yet? Did you check out the directions for setting up a dedicated webserver in the projects conference?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec  9, 1998 (23:49)", "body": "terry, yes on both counts. i have begun editing the files on the access server and will finish that up as soon as i hear that ratthing.com is propagating thru the net. as for changing the cathedral over to the spring's servers, if they want to go that route then they will gladly fax the Internic to get the ball rolling. they will prolly have me do it anyway!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (08:33)", "body": "Go for it. And I hope the directions are clear. There may be one minor typo in them if they aren't the second rev of the directions. Let me know when the site comes up. Good going, Ray."}, {"response": 4, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (10:53)", "body": "ratthing.com is alive! thanks terry."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (12:48)", "body": "Were the directions clear? Did you have any difficulty with them? Can they be improved? Did you set the FP98 extensions and the log files?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (15:56)", "body": "the directions were not too clear, only because there were references to \"barton\" instead of \"access.\" i have not done the FP98 extenstions only because i prolly wont be using them. and i did (i think!) set the log files."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (18:08)", "body": "I think the references to barton may have been valid. You have to do some things to the dns server on barton since it's ns1.spring.net to make everything else work. I think these references may be ok. Hey, but if you have some rewording that would make it clearer, I'd dig it if you'd make a detailed critique. You up for setting up bioregion.com as a frontpage enabled, log enabled website on access?"}, {"response": 8, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (19:33)", "body": "terry, love to! i need access to barton, as i did try to log on and couldnt."}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (22:00)", "body": "I'll fix that."}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (22:01)", "body": "Fixed. projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 35, "subject": "Adding content to conferences and meta tags", "response_count": 15, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (08:38)", "body": "http://www.altavista.com/av/content/addurl_meta.htm is where Altavista explains their philosophy of meta tags. The META tag: Controlling how your Web page is indexed by AltaVista In the absence of any other information, AltaVista will index all words in your document (except for comments), and will use the first few words of the document as a short abstract. It is however possible for you to control how your page is indexed by using the META tag to specify both additional keywords to index, and a short description. Let's suppose your page contains: content=\"We specialize in grooming pink poodles.\"> Palo Alto, dog\"> AltaVista will then do two things: It will index both fields as words, so a search on either poodles or dog will match. It will return the description with the URL. In other words, instead of showing the first couple of lines of the page, a match will look like the following: Pink Poodles Inc We specialize in grooming pink poodles. http://pink.poodle.org/ - size 3k - 29 Feb 96 AltaVista will index the description and keywords up to a limit of 1,024 characters."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (08:39)", "body": "Places like siteowner.com and websitegarage.com should also explain the defacto standard for spider-oriented META tags."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 19, 1999 (08:40)", "body": "We could also submit each conference as it's own entity to the search engines. The full-blown Submit-it has cost money for a while now, I think predating the MS purchase. The lite version (with about 7 search engines) is still free: http://siteowner.linkexchange.com/Free.cfm"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (17:28)", "body": "Meta-tags are easy to add to the templates, and is one of the things that I'd like to do, both automatic ones that read variables, and at least one host-configurable... just ran out of time before I lost telnet..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 24, 1999 (17:33)", "body": "I will get this done... I will get this done... I will get this done..."}, {"response": 6, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (14:44)", "body": "ok, so how do we incorporate meta tags into the conference? (i.e., where do i put it?)"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jun 30, 1999 (17:29)", "body": "right at the top, of the document, wer can give you some better pointers as he's done some nice work with conferences."}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul  1, 1999 (01:29)", "body": "I (or someone) has to put space in the templates for them... last I went to work on these, I was trying to get the title changed so that each conference's title was the conf name instead of the default Conference Center...I want to some variables in for background sound, and style sheets, and etcetera...what do you want first, Wolf? (I mean other than getting your domain up...)"}, {"response": 9, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jul  1, 1999 (01:30)", "body": "I want to ADD some variables... (and be free of typos...)"}, {"response": 10, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jul 10, 1999 (13:06)", "body": "Free Content for Your Site Some people say that the best things in life are free. Fortunately, if you know where to look, you can find top-quality free content for your Web site. News and weather headlines, weather reports, clip art, online polls, and wacky stuff for the kids are just a sample of the goodies uncovered in this wonderfully resourceful grab bag of an article. http://www.builder.com/Authoring/FreeContent/?dd.bu.bb.0708.03"}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan  9, 2000 (23:32)", "body": "He did splendid work on Geo...the same day as he was writing here last... Thank you! Until I read through here, what seemed like magic to me then I realize is just plain hard work and very careful thinking."}, {"response": 12, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan  9, 2000 (23:38)", "body": "I wonder if there are meta tags in Geo's cofigurations..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (05:19)", "body": "Date: Thu, Jul 09, 1998 (15:56) From: Kaylene Thaler (kaylene2) How to change the buttons for just one conference: in the conference rc file, redefine the macro for gifs, which is by default: define gifs \"/yapp-icons/\" to define gifs \" \" You will need to have replacement gifs for all of the following: back.xbm hot.gif preserve.gif retire.gif cfcreate.gif kill.gif prevconf.gif search.gif enter.gif new.gif previtem.gif thaw.gif forget.gif nextconf.gif readnew.gif freeze.gif nextitem.gif remember.gif help.gif participants.gif resign.gif or links back to the original gif or xbm files."}, {"response": 14, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (15:39)", "body": "So we have done and are on Geo. Actually it is more simple than that. Check my rc and you will see how easily it is done (Thank you for teaching me these things, Cfadm! There is not enought good things I could do for you in this lifetime to show my appreciation...)"}, {"response": 15, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (15:48)", "body": "or links back to the original gif or xbm files. That is how we did it. In one fell swoop the entire conference got new buttons. Much easier that way, thank you again Cfadm ...there ARE not enough good things...*sigh* I seem to be rattled today... projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 36, "subject": "thespringfieldgroup.com", "response_count": 5, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 28, 1999 (19:22)", "body": "Check out their website and see if you tell me what these folks are up to, OK?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 28, 1999 (19:25)", "body": "haven't found anything definitive yet... I'll go poke around some more, though..."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 28, 1999 (21:25)", "body": "Well, I warn you, it will be a challenge. Have you read \"Loose lips sink chips\"?"}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 30, 1999 (02:28)", "body": "don't remember which one's I've read... got a probe going out in an Austin e-commerce company to see what I can see there, as well..."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 10, 2000 (21:02)", "body": "Interesting...the link no longer works. projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 37, "subject": "photobooth.com", "response_count": 11, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Jan 28, 1999 (19:26)", "body": "definate possibilities there..."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (06:38)", "body": "Well I got the name and I know someone with a warehouseful of those booths."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (18:59)", "body": "I need help from Ray setting this domain up along with the bioregion domain. Are you up for helping to set this up Ray? Thanks!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (21:14)", "body": "terry, love to, and i will get to them ASAP. i've just been getting hammered at work lately, and weekends as well."}, {"response": 5, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 12, 1999 (23:41)", "body": "oh, tell me about that one!!! I'll be so glad when Valentine's is over and everyone at work is well... (maybe then I can get over to Terry's and learn how to do some of this...)"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb 13, 1999 (08:22)", "body": "I want to get photobooth.com up because it is under attack . . . . . . we're under seige and I need to get this thing viable. Terry, I was rather surprised to find that my domain www.photobooth.com was no longer pointing to my web site and no longer registered to me in the Internic lookup da tabase; apparently the e-billing notice and bills were being sent to an old busi ness address, unknown to me. I spoke to Internic about this, as I have a fax do cument sent to them on 1/2/97 requesting to update my contact information, but a pparently this domain name was not updated, ultimately my error for not handling the detail. The reason I am sending you this email is to request that we come to a reasonable agreement to transfer the domain back as opposed to forcing me t o proceed thru Internic's \"domain name dispute policy\" with my fax as my only su pporting documentation. Bottom line, would you be willing to transfer this back to me, I'd pay you a few hundred $$ for your wasted time. I'd appreciate your understanding in this matter by not saying....how can I get thousands out of thi s situation, as this was a clerical error on my part. Thanks, Richard Attenberg 619-683-9300 sales@condominiums.com And then this: Reply-To: \"m3166111\" X-UIDL: 918861824.182 To: \"Paul Terry Walhus\" Subject: Re: terry: re-photobooth.com (request to transfer) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:52:34 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I'd be willing to pay $500 to get the name back, otherwise, I'd go through the \"domain dispute policy\" and put the domain on hold until resolved with Internic. In my opinion, that's a nice profit for no effort. What company are you affiliated with that actually manufactures photobooths? I wish this guy would just bug off. I registered this name to do a \"cyber\" photobooth at South by Southwest and this guy's trying to grab it from me! I have a legitimate Spring business I'm spinning off. So you can see why I'd like to get the site up and running."}, {"response": 7, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb 13, 1999 (09:50)", "body": "ouch"}, {"response": 8, "author": "wer", "date": "Sat, Feb 13, 1999 (10:23)", "body": "hey, ask $750 and register one of these (none of which are registered)... photobooth.net fotobooth.com photobooths.com ourphotobooth.com photoboothweb.com (just suggestions...)"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 10, 2000 (00:05)", "body": "What finally happened in this case? Painful, to say the least!"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (03:16)", "body": "It sold, it's in the process of transferring."}, {"response": 11, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (11:56)", "body": "Gets them off your case...Good! projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 38, "subject": "bioregion.com", "response_count": 20, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (11:07)", "body": "Could I get someone (Ray, hint, hint) to help create this as a Front Page enabled domain?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Jan 29, 1999 (21:31)", "body": "sure, terry! i need a suspense date, though, or else i will never get to it."}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Jan 30, 1999 (02:30)", "body": "I definately respect you now, Ray!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Jan 30, 1999 (03:00)", "body": "As in, hmmm, say, 2/5/99 maybe?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (14:26)", "body": "okey dokey!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb  1, 1999 (09:18)", "body": "Awesome, Ray. I'm open to ideas for this site."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Feb  1, 1999 (09:34)", "body": "I just sent a notice that we are putting this up out to the 200 or so folks on the bioregional mailing list in Austin asking for their ideas and input on the site."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MAFIOSO", "date": "Mon, Feb  1, 1999 (10:52)", "body": "ITS ALL GOOD"}, {"response": 9, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (22:26)", "body": "terry, i forgot all about this! you still need it done?"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:34)", "body": "Yep, but we need it on access.spring.net. I got up and made an annoucement about it at the recent Bioregional Congress so folks are already looking for it. But on access.spring.net, if you aren't set up there let me know!"}, {"response": 11, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (14:01)", "body": "no prob, terry. just curious, why on access?"}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (15:35)", "body": "Cause there's lots and lotsa disk space, which we don't have much of on www and barton. And it's a much faster and more powerful machine."}, {"response": 13, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (18:10)", "body": "It has the technology."}, {"response": 14, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:16)", "body": "and i can build it THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR WEB SITE! DAH DA DAH DAAAAAAAA!"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (21:41)", "body": "hehe..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (07:16)", "body": "Ray, communiate with me by email regarding the password and username for the FrontPage web oikay?"}, {"response": 17, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Feb 19, 1999 (18:36)", "body": "got it."}, {"response": 18, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan  9, 2000 (23:48)", "body": "This is the place Terry created as the only Topic on Geo not created by me. I am grateful for that, Terry. Wish there was more interest from other people...! Actually, Bioregions got some very good traffic for a while until clashing personalities resulted in mass dispersion of posters. Alas...!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (03:17)", "body": "Whois Server Version 1.1 Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Domain Name: BIOREGION.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS1.SPRING.NET Name Server: NS2.SPRING.NET >>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 10 Jan 00 02:28:42 EST The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and Registrars. Still owned by Spring."}, {"response": 20, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (11:59)", "body": "Wow! Interesting. Going to familiarize myself with internic.net. Thnaks! projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 39, "subject": "disk space hogs", "response_count": 22, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (14:52)", "body": "Today's top 100 on www.spring.net bash$ head -100 hogwww.txt 2320550 / 2303086 /usr 733270 /usr/home 526262 /usr/bbs 508346 /usr/var 486660 /usr/var/www 307480 /usr/bbs/confs 286280 /usr/local 257592 /usr/var/www/logs 218232 /usr/var/www/logs/spring.net 118664 /usr/bbs/part 113078 /usr/home/jeff 101772 /usr/var/www/webdocs 99446 /usr/bbs/confs/drool 87722 /usr/home/terry 82944 /usr/contrib 80076 /usr/var/www/docs 68222 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com 66894 /usr/local/share 66352 /usr/local/share/emacs 66346 /usr/local/share/emacs/20.3 57818 /usr/local/share/emacs/20.3/lisp 57162 /usr/home/terry/Mail 56710 /usr/home/dbii 46810 /usr/bbs/www 46636 /usr/var/www/rafiles 46468 /usr/local/src 46044 /usr/home/wmmeyers 45988 /usr/home/wmmeyers/public_html 45162 /usr/home/jeff/perl 44378 /usr/home/dbii/public_html 44170 /usr/home/dbii/public_html/forum 42196 /usr/local/src/pine4.02 41956 /usr/local/realaudio 41280 /usr/bbs/www/home 39502 /usr/contrib/bin 39398 /usr/home/wmmeyers/public_html/album 37030 /usr/share 36300 /usr/home/jeff/olddns 35164 /usr/home/kreblon 34786 /usr/home/kreblon/public_html 29240 /usr/home/dbii/public_html/forum/confs 28588 /usr/src 28586 /usr/src/sys 27742 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales 27482 /usr/local/pnserver 27140 /usr/var/www/logs/adultstory.com 26680 /usr/home/jeff/perl/perl5.004_04 26062 /usr/local/frontpage 26034 /usr/local/frontpage/version3.0 25054 /usr/lost+found 24056 /usr/home/paul 23950 /usr/home/paul/Mail 23580 /usr/home/terry/public_html 23544 /usr/bbs/confs/philosophy 23496 /usr/var/www/webdocs/adultstory.com 22920 /usr/home/nbba 22374 /usr/local/ratthing 22234 /usr/bbs/confs/austenarchive 21502 /usr/home/bernie 21338 /usr/local/realaudio/pnserver.old 21054 /usr/contrib/lib 20976 /usr/home/ham 19070 /usr/src/sys/i386 18834 /usr/local/src/pine4.02/bin 18658 /usr/bbs/confs/porch 18514 /usr/var/www/docs/wle 18468 /usr/local/bin 18220 /usr/var/mail 18196 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/christmas 17848 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/snow 17602 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/snow/images 17552 /usr/home/jeff/sendmail 17428 /usr/local/pnserver/logs 17420 /usr/var/www/docs/bayless 17346 /usr/var/www/docs/bayless/images 16998 /usr/bind 16996 /usr/bind/named 16438 /usr/home/bernie/public_html 15698 /usr/bbs/confs/food 15496 /usr/src/sys/i386/OBJ 14686 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/christmas/images 14626 /usr/home/nbba/incoming 14606 /usr/home/anneh 14474 /usr/home/anneh/public_html 14248 /usr/home/nan 14242 /usr/bin 14168 /usr/lib 14150 /usr/home/ham/Mail 14038 /usr/home/spew 14000 /usr/home/spew/public_html 13998 /usr/contrib/man 13922 /usr/share/man 13878 /usr/home/jeff/dns 13452 /usr/home/alweeda 13188 /usr/bind/named/bin 13088 /usr/home/boyce 13032 /usr/home/boyce/public_html 12984 /usr/home/stacey 12964 /usr/bbs/confs/apps"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (14:52)", "body": "Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 19454 17466 1014 95% / /dev/sd0h 2956188 2550006 258372 91% /usr"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (14:54)", "body": "Another solution. access.spring.net has *lots* of space. So we can create new websites and store a lot of stuff there in web readable areas and reference it from www.spring.net. If you need an account on access, let me know."}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (15:15)", "body": "(I don't have one that I can get to...) can't you move all of dbii over to access?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (17:30)", "body": "We could move dbii over, good idea. Could you add this to the art conference somewhere (if it's ok with Ree Ree)?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (17:45)", "body": "oh, possibly...she's real busy on a project before she leaves for Africa..."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (18:17)", "body": "Just wanted to make sure it's cool with the Reemeistress."}, {"response": 8, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Wed, Feb 17, 1999 (21:52)", "body": "understood"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 18, 1999 (10:35)", "body": "Wow, she's packin' for Afrika! What an adventuress."}, {"response": 10, "author": "stacey", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (13:58)", "body": "okay... so I'ma hog! What the heck happened to photobooth.com I read all the stuff, then the topic vanished. Did you sell out to that prick?? um. guy..."}, {"response": 11, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (16:30)", "body": "i set up photobooth.com here about 3 weeks ago, i think. it should still be living on the spring's servers."}, {"response": 12, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (17:41)", "body": "'tis...so's the topic..."}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (19:27)", "body": "photobooth is a minimal disk space hog. It's a one page website with no graphics stored on our servers. It's a base href tag to photobooth.org."}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (19:35)", "body": "what's access.spring.net? and should i move my files over there? (would that help?)"}, {"response": 15, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Thu, Feb 25, 1999 (22:05)", "body": "it's another server...and I am currently taking up more space than you, Wolf..."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (09:32)", "body": "You're welcome to move files there. And you're welcome to an account there. I'm building another server as a replacement for www. It will have 2 4 gb hard drives. And barton will eventually move to access."}, {"response": 17, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (09:40)", "body": "so... photobooth.com (the one I accessed on the web) is NOT the same one you own the rights to???"}, {"response": 18, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (10:37)", "body": "It's one and the same. I own the name but the content is mirrored from the very cool photobooth.org."}, {"response": 19, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (10:40)", "body": "well then... who's Wade??"}, {"response": 20, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (13:26)", "body": "He's the guy at Zesty.com who built the photobooth.org website and said it was cool to mirror it at photobooth.com Had lunch with ratthing today, he's going to put our banner ad on this site. The cool black one with the rolling text!"}, {"response": 21, "author": "stacey", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (14:38)", "body": "that's cool that you two got together!!"}, {"response": 22, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (23:15)", "body": "yes it was! projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 4, "subject": "tvpc.com", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (10:15)", "body": "to quote a post on Electric Minds with useful information on webtv: Topic 12: WebTV & other TV/Web marriages #57 of 58: Art Botterell (acb) Sat 30 Nov '96 (06:20 PM) The WebTV folks have released a first cut at a developers guide... http://webtv.net/devdocs/styleguide/sguide-1.html Thin, certainly, but a step in the right direction. Another resource is \"WebTV Talk\" hosted by WebHead Design... http://whdesign.com/webtv/webtv.html The main thing seems to be understanding that anything wider than about 544 pixels will get rescaled horizontally (in lieu of horizontal scrolling, which the WebTV browser doesn't support)... and that can play heck with foreground / background alignment tricks. Somebody with a relatively high-traffic site... it might be interesting to start doing weekly counts of hits from WebTV browsers... see what sort of a growth curve they get."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul  9, 1997 (11:08)", "body": "We have a new priority and a new project focus. This just in from Jonathon: As I suspected, WebTV wants to make cs.com a default site on their start page. Awesome! This means within a WEEK it must be fully cleaned up. They do have some questions, how many audio streams can the RA server handle at the same time? When are we upgrading to the new version (they are aware of the problems with RA BTW)? We may have to upgrade the RA server to handle more hits. I have contacted Chris Spurgeon about helping with the RA upgrade. We'll need to moblize on http://www.tvpc.com"}, {"response": 3, "author": "doug", "date": "Tue, Jul 29, 1997 (02:40)", "body": "let me know what we can do!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul 29, 1997 (11:17)", "body": "Will do."}, {"response": 5, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Sep  3, 2000 (10:08)", "body": "Our focus now is on tvreviewer.com"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Sep  3, 2000 (16:00)", "body": "Gotcha projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 40, "subject": "web domain management", "response_count": 4, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (11:56)", "body": "These are duplicated domains: austen.com access /www austen.com www /var/www/webdocs brucesterling.com access /www brucesterling.com barton /var/webdocs ratthing.com access /www ratthing.com barton /var/webdocs roxburyguys.com access /www roxburyguys.com www /var/www/webdocs tvpc.com barton /var/webdocs tvpc.com www /var/www/webdocs tvpc is moved to IBM's site, so it needs to be deleted both places. I think most of the ohters are acutally running on access."}, {"response": 2, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (09:15)", "body": "terry, will do. it is quite a mess, i must admit, but the actual server config files are set properly, so we do not have a functional problem, just a problem with old files and directories lying all over the place."}, {"response": 3, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (10:55)", "body": "SPring cleaning time!!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "stacey", "date": "Wed, Apr 14, 1999 (10:55)", "body": "I am SUCH a punster! *grin* projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 41, "subject": "captains log", "response_count": 5, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jun 10, 1999 (11:47)", "body": "barton:/var/www/logs ls -l total 14 -rw-rw-rw- 1 root 84 207 Dec 19 23:55 access_count drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Jun 18 1997 austinmusicint.com drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Jun 18 1997 boat.org drwxrwxr-x 2 root 84 512 Feb 24 1998 brucesterling.com drwx------ 2 root 84 512 Aug 7 1997 brucesteve.com drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Mar 27 1998 divecruise.com drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Jun 3 1997 golftravel.net drwx------ 2 root 84 512 Jul 9 1997 mfeedback.com drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Jun 23 1997 minds.org drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Feb 7 06:41 photobooth.com drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Feb 7 06:43 ratthing.com drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 Jun 3 1997 repeater.org drwxrwxr-x 2 root 84 512 Nov 19 1998 stats drwxr-xr-x 2 root 84 512 May 31 07:27 tvpc.com I removed tvpc, mfeedback and austinmusicint today. Since we're no longer hosting these."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Jun 28, 1999 (10:05)", "body": "Got some new webservers running, and Wm's work on wolf's Here's the whole list of webservers running on access. $ ls -ralt total 40 drwxr-xr-x 15 root wheel 512 Aug 4 1998 .. drwxrwxr-x 10 terry www 512 Nov 9 1998 spring.net drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Nov 9 1998 burnetroad.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Nov 9 1998 guadalupestreet.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Nov 9 1998 lamarboulevard.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Nov 9 1998 researchblvd.com drwxr-xr-x 10 silky www 512 Nov 9 1998 silkcloth.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Nov 9 1998 teachai.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Nov 9 1998 congressavenue.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Nov 9 1998 roxburyguys.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 21 1998 stats drwxr-xr-x 10 therese www 512 Dec 14 1998 lifespaces.com drwxr-xr-x 3 root www 512 Feb 17 09:08 suzyamis.com drwxr-xr-x 10 root www 512 Feb 20 22:21 access.spring.net drwxr-xr-x 11 ratthing user 512 May 17 18:47 ratthing.com drwxr-xr-x 15 motorbla www 512 May 26 20:28 motorblade.com drwxr-xr-x 2 roger user 512 May 27 11:00 atlantea.com -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4926 May 27 14:42 webmake.txt drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 512 Jun 13 01:56 cooltoys.net drwxr-xr-x 2 chris user 512 Jun 13 01:58 mustardbath.com drwxr-xr-x 2 chris user 512 Jun 13 01:59 saveseed.com drwxr-xr-x 2 chris wheel 512 Jun 13 02:00 energywork.com drwxr-xr-x 2 chris wheel 512 Jun 13 02:01 worldhunger.com drwxr-xr-x 2 chris user 512 Jun 13 02:02 love30.com drwxr-xr-x 2 chris wheel 512 Jun 13 02:03 workontheweb.com drwxr-xr-x 9 chris user 512 Jun 19 09:14 tvshows.com drwxr-xr-x 9 chris user 1024 Jun 26 18:31 bioregion.com drwxrwxr-x 33 root firth 1536 Jun 26 19:49 firth.com drwxrwxr-x 30 austen www 2560 Jun 26 23:51 austen.com drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 27 02:02 midnightwolf.net I put content on bioregion.com The austen.com team is doing a great job!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (04:53)", "body": "fixed the pesky /tmp file last night, I would have fixed it earlier had I not left my cell phone in my car."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (15:32)", "body": "* s i g h * and I called you twice and got to talk to a machine...!"}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, May  3, 2000 (15:36)", "body": "Sorta like birth control - it does not work unless you take it with you... projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 42, "subject": "affiliates", "response_count": 4, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jul  4, 1999 (12:06)", "body": "Barnes and Noble Subject: Welcome barnesandnoble.com Affiliate! Dear Paul, Thank you for your application to the barnesandnoble.com Affiliate Network. Your site has been approved*. You can start setting up your links to barnesandnoble.com today by visiting our extranet at http://www.affiliate.net . You'll need the username and password you selected in your application to use our automatic HTML Tag Generator and to access your sales reports. You'll want to begin by reviewing the \"Getting Started\" area at http://www.affiliate.net/affnet/start.asp , an introduction designed expressly for new Affiliates. Here are some quick links for you to use immediately. Link to our Home Page: http://bn.bfast.com/booklink/click?sourceid=5485658&categoryid=homepage Bestsellers Page: http://bn.bfast.com/booklink/click?sourceid=5485658&categoryid=Top100 Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/booklink/click?sourceid=5485658&categoryid=bargains Software Store: http://bn.bfast.com/booklink/click?sourceid=5485658&categoryid=swhomepage Gift Center: http://bn.bfast.com/booklink/click?sourceid=5485658&categoryid=gifts For other easy links, go to our Auto-bookstore http://affiliates.bfast.com/affiliates/barnesandnoble/linktoautobook to get a whole bookstore at once, or our Auto-merchandiser http://www.affiliates.net/affnet/automerch_info.asp to get dynamic banners on your site. For all other links visit the Make Links area of http://www.affiliate.net where you can create book links, keyword links and over 100 other links of your choice. You can check your sales reports anytime online at http://affiliates.bfast.com/affiliates/barnesandnoble/reports Should you have any questions, before you send us an email, please take the time to review the online FAQ (frequently asked questions section) at http://affiliate.net/affnet/faq.asp If you need further assistance, please contact us at http://www.affiliate.net/affnet/support.asp We are excited to have Work on the Web as part of the Affiliate Network and look forward to building a lasting, creative, and profitable relationship. As an Affiliate of the world's largest bookseller online, you will enjoy the benefits of partnering with a recognized leader in electronic commerce. Sincerely, The barnesandnoble.com Affiliate Network Team"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  6, 1999 (07:46)", "body": "We have a bunch of these and I'll post more. And I need to start a ccnow.com topic for our credit card processing."}, {"response": 3, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Tue, Jul  6, 1999 (16:12)", "body": "yes, please, as I don't want us to overlap..."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 10, 2000 (21:43)", "body": "Please consider this most seriously and soonly. I could have gotten your check to you last month - despite the flu - with cc capabililty. projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 43, "subject": "ccnow.com", "response_count": 8, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Tue, Jul  6, 1999 (12:18)", "body": "Terry, please take no offense at my frank thoughts below, but that is a charge no retailing shop would accept. Here in Germany, they'd sometimes even be happy to give you a discount of 2-4% if you pay cash and save them the credit card fees... While I appreciate that you don't have to pay for rent of premises, and personnel costs are likely to be controllable as long as the carrots-onna-stick last (my biz model), you shell out some $$$ to do whatever you do, which would perhaps amount to the same overhead as a small mom-n-dad shop. Admitted, without them, you wouldn't receive the 90.5%; meanwhile, any product or service you'll be able to price competitively gets an additional 9.5% slapped on, thus increasing the price a customer would have to pay. Are they the only offer available to you at the moment?"}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul  7, 1999 (16:03)", "body": "Well, no, but they're good for accepting donations and subscriptions, where we any amount of revenue is better than being shut out completely for lack of a credit card vendor. When we get in to products with a real margin built in, we'll have to find a better deal."}, {"response": 3, "author": "aschuth", "date": "Thu, Jul  8, 1999 (05:55)", "body": "Understood. Just wanted to point this out to you, in the most respectful manner."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Jan 10, 2000 (21:50)", "body": "Ah...here you are! Is this still a viable option? Or would you rather do it with snail mail and handwritten check?"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (03:18)", "body": "Snailmail and handwritten check is fine. Ann Haker sent a very generous amount in yesterday."}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (12:29)", "body": "Have you seen her notice on DWG? Check http://austen.com/board/index.cgi for the plea on Spring's behalf. Ann is the best!"}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (07:27)", "body": "Ann is the best, no question. We need to move austen.com and firth.com to the new site this week. I'll put in the change in the next couple of days so please tell everyone to be prepared to ftp their information to this new place. Have anyone who needs root access or author access to these sites email me with whatever username they want to be listed under."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jan 13, 2000 (11:28)", "body": "I'll put out the word, but a lot of the ladies who need to know this are off to London for a close encounter with Colin Firth in a play...for their second time. I will be here keeping the place flowing and doing what I can...despite the relatives who will be descending on me for the weekend. Take care and things are gonna be ok! *Hugs* again! projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 44, "subject": "starting - and stopping - our webservers", "response_count": 9, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (17:26)", "body": "On barton.spring.net ( I think! ) barton# kill -9 `ps -ax | awk '$5==\"./httpd\" {print $1}'` Kill the web server. barton# /usr/contrib/bin/httpd -f /var/www/conf/httpd.conf Restart the web server. Right now I can't get this to work."}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (17:37)", "body": "sheesh...I just pay Hawaii-on-Line $20.94 each month and they do the worrying for me. (I know, where's the challenge in that?!)"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (17:52)", "body": "Got it to work! Repeater.org and boat.org are back up and running! barton.spring.net is back online after a week of being down. DDC is being very unresponsive lately."}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (18:13)", "body": "Excellent!!! (Knew you would!) *hugs*"}, {"response": 5, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (22:26)", "body": "too stop the webservers here i just do a search for the htttpd process: ps ax | grep httpd then i just kill the pid of the main httpd process."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (10:48)", "body": "Which is the Ss process."}, {"response": 7, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Jan  9, 2000 (23:15)", "body": "Is this where you were considering talking of the specifics of moving Spring to the new DigiHost...? Have nothing to add to this topic whatsoever, so I'll go back to whatever it is that I do on the Spring. Interesting to note you were having problems with DDC as long ago as September!"}, {"response": 8, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (08:34)", "body": "This is the place and we done it!"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (14:37)", "body": "Y I P P E E ! projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 45, "subject": "midnightwolf.net", "response_count": 32, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (02:53)", "body": "=========== VERY IMPORTANT =========== In an hour or two, you will receive an email from the Internic containing a tracking number at the following email address: terry@spring.net The Administrative contact for midnightwolf.net will receive an email from the Internic at the following address: mswolf68@hotmail.com If the Administrative Contact for midnightwolf.net does not reply YES to the Internic's email, your domain name will NEVER be modified to point to us! If you are transferring a domain name from another provider and you are not able to reply from the Administrative Contact's email address: ( mswolf68@hotmail.com ), then you must send an email to billing@digihost.com containing the tracking number you received from the Internic and explaining that you can not reply from the Administrative Contact email address for this domain name. =========== VERY IMPORTANT ==========="}, {"response": 2, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (11:53)", "body": "Wolfie, check this out!!!"}, {"response": 3, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (14:49)", "body": "And be sure to check out our new guide for folks with web pages, Just click the webhosting button on the main page. http://www.spring.net/webhosting and follow the links to managing your page. Thre's a lot here!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (19:39)", "body": "(*whew* glad it isn't me...never did one all alone...)"}, {"response": 5, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (21:27)", "body": "i sent the ok twice! wow, this place is getting going!!"}, {"response": 6, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (21:37)", "body": "Terry has been brainstorming all day. It was fun to be here even if I was the lone stranger along for the ride."}, {"response": 7, "author": "wolf", "date": "Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (21:41)", "body": "i had no idea i was a project *grin* terry-- * H U G S * thank you soooooo much *smile*"}, {"response": 8, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (07:56)", "body": "Thanks. Please look over the control panel instructions. Did you get the ip address that I emailed to you? Your site is at http://207.0.38.107 Though soon you'll be able to get to it by http://www.midnightwolf.net"}, {"response": 9, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (14:34)", "body": "You can now get to it via midnightwolf.net. I just did it about an hour ago."}, {"response": 10, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (17:40)", "body": "Cool, it's starting to resolve, wolfie, do you have FrontPage 2000? If yo0u do your site is enabled for it. Did you check out the control panel and stats?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (17:44)", "body": "not yet. have been busy but will do it as soon as i can! thank you sooooooo much!!!"}, {"response": 12, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:54)", "body": "i got into the control panel and added the frontpage extensions. now what???"}, {"response": 13, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:27)", "body": "You can create ftp accounts, you can set up email accounts, you can view your stats, play with it, do you have Frontpage?"}, {"response": 14, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:34)", "body": "oh, that's what the ftp thing was for. thought i was already on it. yeah, my frontpage is sitting on the spring server."}, {"response": 15, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:42)", "body": "Well, create some stuff! Just use whateer and ftp it to the site."}, {"response": 16, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:43)", "body": "cool!"}, {"response": 17, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:50)", "body": "You know how to ftp right?"}, {"response": 18, "author": "wolf", "date": "Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:52)", "body": "yup. later!!"}, {"response": 19, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (17:48)", "body": "terry, i do the ftp setup thing but i never get listed and i don't know what to use on the ftp page as an address and so on......"}, {"response": 20, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (17:52)", "body": "Use any name and password you like. I'll go look and see what you've done."}, {"response": 21, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (17:53)", "body": "well, i've been there twice to add myself and after i click \"add\" no users so up in the box above that."}, {"response": 22, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (18:50)", "body": "Hmm, it worked for me. Did you see where I added the account wolf? Type in a username and a password and change the home directory path to /home/midni4/virtual_html And click on add. Hmm, hmmm, hmmm, I 've never had this fail before. I can't figure out what you're doing wolfie."}, {"response": 23, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:33)", "body": "for one thing, i wasn't changing the path. what address do i use for ftp?"}, {"response": 24, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (19:37)", "body": "ok....i went to administer ftp. the boxes come up, right.....i click user name and password (which i make up) change the address to /home/midni4/virtual_html and click add. nothing changes on my list (the box right above the adding where it has a button to delete). and the ftp address changes back to /home/midni4/ftp. you can't figure it out because you're so used to the program. i'm doing what the buttons tell me to (at first, without changing the address). is there more that i'm supposed to put in there?"}, {"response": 25, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (20:06)", "body": "with marcia's help, we figured it out and i got in. now there's an actual page up!"}, {"response": 26, "author": "wolf", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (20:07)", "body": "my userid was already part of the ftp users account."}, {"response": 27, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (20:10)", "body": "Alright! The gifs don't work yet though."}, {"response": 28, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Apr 26, 2000 (20:11)", "body": "Thank you wolfie for not saying it's \"under construction'."}, {"response": 29, "author": "wolf", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (11:30)", "body": "whaddya mean? the gifs were there yesterday!"}, {"response": 30, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Apr 27, 2000 (21:17)", "body": "Me too... (but I can't even see the graphics on our front page...)"}, {"response": 31, "author": "wolf", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (16:11)", "body": "ok, i went into netscape and saw my website without a problem. but at work, the background and the gifs didn't show up. don't get it."}, {"response": 32, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Fri, Apr 28, 2000 (19:25)", "body": "Me too...*sigh* projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 46, "subject": "Spring and Austen Universities", "response_count": 8, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (18:21)", "body": "Terry, make an executive committee private conference please"}, {"response": 2, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (07:45)", "body": "OK, let's use the projects conference, it's already aimed this way and it can be made private."}, {"response": 3, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (19:11)", "body": "Excellent! I have been looking through the B&N and Talk City courses. I still need more in-depth information to know what I should be doing but is does sound interesting and challenging!"}, {"response": 4, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (08:42)", "body": "It could be a wonderful thing for our community. It could help us prosper and grow. I have a meeting on this with the notHarvard folks tomorrow and I'm also meeting with Will Kreth ( http://www.kreth.com) ."}, {"response": 5, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Thu, Jun 22, 2000 (17:58)", "body": "Any reactions or responses from anyone other than me from Spring, yet?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Fri, Jun 23, 2000 (07:26)", "body": "I've heard from Ann, she's enthusiastic. I need a course list by 2 today if posible of all the potential courses we coudl teach from the topics at spring.net, austen.com and firth.com and drool."}, {"response": 7, "author": "sprin5", "date": "Thu, Jun 29, 2000 (04:15)", "body": "Today's the meeting about Austen University, it's at 10 am and I still need a mock up page showing courses we could hold. I also am very busy on the Cedar Creek property. Someone has offered to buy firth.com. Should we sell firth.com, hold another pledge drive or work together to build Austin University. I overwhelmingly favor the third of these alternatives for Sprign fundraising, but we're going to have to harmonize and work with each other."}, {"response": 8, "author": "MarciaH", "date": "Sat, Jul  1, 2000 (14:03)", "body": "If we work together to build Austin University we need more than you, me and Ann. There was an Egroups board setup for this very purpose. It might be a very smart move to post this there to let the Drool ladies know they are included in this planning. They do not leave Drool much to read projects! Please email them springcom@egroups.com I knew about the proposed sale of firth.com... projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 5, "subject": "capitol-city.com", "response_count": 9, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (10:16)", "body": "I'm waiting till Doug puts his current issue to bed to get started on this. He's too busy to think about websites right now with a magazine to get out."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (11:10)", "body": "Doug is ready now and I'll be seeing him today or tomorrow. I talked to Federico about this and to Gene Crick. I need to get some other local folks involved. This is very much a regional Austin site, but the content will be of interest globally and everyone is interested in the Austin music scene."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (22:44)", "body": "Well, here's Dougs contents which will help us put up topics in the music conference: Contents Page of the Holiday Issue! Capitol City Arts & Entertainment Magazine capitol-city.com --------------------------------------------------------- Man of a Thousand Voices 7 In 1974, Austin=B9s Edwin Neal came to national attention as The Hitchhiker in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and the horror genre was changed forever. Since then he has done movies with Oliver Stone, hung out with the likes of H.R.Giger and Harry Anderson and conjured up more character voices than the genie in Aladdin. But there's more to tell... ------------------------------------------ KLBJ=B9s Local Licks Live 24 The hottest Rock & Roll musicians and songwriters in Central Texas have found their way to the airwaves on Loris Lowe's Local Licks Live the longest local live music show broadcasted in Austin. ------------------------------------------ Kevin Peake 46 You may have seen his work on TV or even at your grocery store, or even in a local eatery but did you know the artist lives right here in river city! ------------------------------------------ Austin Performs The Ice Bats - opening night 10 Lisa Tingle=B9s In The Water 16 Dance Across Texas Cowgirls 22 Austin Museum of Art 30 Poet Page- R. David Taylor 45 ------------------------------------------ Music City David Lee Garza @ tejano ranch 15 Steven Curtis Chapman@The Erwin Center 17 Clay Walker @The Erwin Center 17 Neil McCoy- a candid interview 20 KISS@The Erwin Center 34 The Sixth Annual Austin Acoustic Musci Festival 38 G3 @ Eric Johnson, Steve Vai & Joe Satriani Jam @ the Austin Music Hall (40++Chris Duarte appeared also! ) Joan Osborne- a candid interview 42 ------------------------------------------ Austin Life Style / Fashion pg. 13 (Hair Color & Design) Ask Gregg=8A Ten Tips to beat the Holiday Blues 18 Capitol Area Listings 35 Art Galleries, Theatres, Museums, Music Venues, Musical Groups, Restaurants, Coffee Houses, Jobs, Notices, Web Sites, NightClubs, Small Businesses, Dance halls, Special Thank You=B9s etc. ------------------------------------------ National Beat Ray Bradbury - in the house (here for a book signing at BookPeople ) Capitol-City Mag. Subs 13492 Research Blvd., Ste. 120-143, Austin, Texas 78750-2254 W e b m a s t e r/ Editor Capitol City Publishing Capitol City A&E zine http:// www.capitol-city.com ---------------------------- ------ ------------------------------- produced by Glaze Studio =3D]:-}> http://www.io.com/~larue ---------------------------- ------ ------------------------------- Conceptual SuperCharger with Dual Overhead Cameras"}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (22:23)", "body": "From: larue@io.com (Doug La Rue) Subject: Capitol-City Conference Topics Content-Length: 1073 # Capitol-City Conference Topics # Register [O] Sign-In Sign In and interact with Staff & Writers. Select the Subject first then the Person you wish to confer with. # {-:( Subjects):-} The Publishers * The Writers * Musical Artists * Visual Artists Fine Artists * Photographers * Film & Video * Theatre ;-} People {-: Doug La Rue - Letters to the Editor Banning Lary - Restaurant Reviews Edson Hovers - Music & Visual Arts Laura Rojo - Music, Photography, Mac Computers, Best of Email Jokes Greg Merlyn - Music, Night Life, Movies Edwin Neal - Theatre & Movies/ Reviews Terry Walhus - ??!! # Contents Page * Capitol City Arts * Music-City / Venues * Contact Capitol-City Register w/ Capitol-City * Advertising Rates * Capitol Area Listings * Austin Life Doug La Rue ---------------------------- ------ ------------------------------- Glaze Studio .]:-}> http://www.io.com/~larue ---------------------------- ------ ------------------------------- Conceptual SuperCharger with Dual Overhead Cameras dont forget to check out http:// www.capitol-city.com"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul  3, 1997 (10:16)", "body": "What's on your hit list these days Doug? I need to get you that copy of XLent that's in my van. You gonna be in town today."}, {"response": 6, "author": "doug", "date": "Thu, Jul  3, 1997 (16:53)", "body": "no, not in town today, I will be going to the Joe Ely Concert tonite at Austin Music Hall. I would like to see people post comments on Willies Picnic, as well as other Austin events over the July fourth holiday."}, {"response": 7, "author": "del", "date": "Wed, Jul  9, 1997 (05:49)", "body": "lalalala"}, {"response": 8, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul 23, 1997 (12:35)", "body": "On content, some observations I copied. Topic 5: Images and Imagery #140 of 143: Phil (creekman) Tue 22 Jul '97 (05:41 AM) er, ...shapes the conversation Topic 5: Images and Imagery #141 of 143: Rafe Colburn (rafeco) Tue 22 Jul '97 (09:39 AM) Well, you also have to consider that people read an article once, most likely, while on the other hand people repeatedly enter the conferencing area to see what's going on there. So the fact that there's less \"traffic\" going to the content doesn't mean that fewer of the people here are reading it than conferencing. Topic 5: Images and Imagery #142 of 143: Phil (creekman) Tue 22 Jul '97 (02:37 PM) Good point...I wonder if there's anyway to plot the activity in a conversation over the lifespan of a content article ? It seemed to me that Technos conversations would perk up every time Rossney wrote a new piece... Topic 5: Images and Imagery #143 of 143: Abbe Don (abbe) Tue 22 Jul '97 (09:29 PM) Rossney was on the most regular publishing schedule, updating his content almost on a weekly or every 10 day schedule. He also completely mastered the model of using content to drive conversation and then using the ideas that emerged from the conversations to generate his next column idea. I think the question remains: what problem or issue does publishing content address? Originally, we thought it would drive traffic, establish a certain intellectual/creative/cultural tone, and especially encourage \"newbies\" who are more accustomed to \"browsing\" to jump into a discussion. I think one thing that we learned was that more \"content\" is generated in the \"conversations\" than can possibly be generated by an editorial/production staff. The number of editorial/production staff stayed fixed while the numbers of contributors expanded exponentially by comparison. So, we were also looking at better models of publishing user-generated content. There is a difference between reading something in the context of the conversations versus reading it as an article. The conversations is like \"improv\" and the \"content\" is like a performance. In the performance work that I've done, I often use \"improv\" to generate new material and then refine it, craft it, shape it, for a performance. So, I think for publishing to work there are a few criteria that need to be considered: 1. weekly updates, at least 2. links from the home page when a new piece of content goes up. There is a one to one correlation between an item appearing on the home page and the number of hits the section gets. 3. Short and chunky...long essays are not necessarily better. Thought provoking essays UNDER 1000 words are better suited to the web, in my humble opinion 4. A good producer or author/designer for each section that can keep the layout of the articles looking lively. There's a basic template that the Minds Content Management System is based on that I think lends itself well to a lot of creative play within a particular structure. I would recommend continuing to use it. It also facilitates automatic archiving so that if content does update quickly, people will still be able to easily access previously \"published\" articles. 5. Content should probably come from the community so that no one writer gets over burdened AND because there likely is not going to be enough budget to pay one person to generate weekly content. It's very hard to have someone be that consistent and interesting to the readers. 6. Have good leading questions on the content side as side bars (like the stuff that Derek Powazek did in the whole Edge Tech section, once he took it on) that link directly to the conversation. 7. Have the producer of the section actively update the \"editor's choice\" portal to draw people into the conversation. 8. Good copyediting, proof reading and link checking so that the articles are of a consistently high quality! That's my 2 cents."}, {"response": 9, "author": "doug", "date": "Mon, Jul 28, 1997 (01:07)", "body": "interesting, I'll have to read this a few times to digest it all projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 6, "subject": "Austen conference volunteer assignments", "response_count": 143, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (09:02)", "body": "Here are some specific assignments for anyone who wants to help. Just leave a message saying what you will do and I will update this list to indicate tasks that still need doers. Thanks. For the Unix team Get in to the prompt with your new username and password from the Telnet link at the Spring's welcome screen. Or telnet in via your own means to ftp www.spring.com Type bbs and scope it out, get familiar with Yapp in the shell. See a command list by typing help commands at the OK prompt Read the Yapp conference messages detailing the Spring's trials with the initial set-up of Yapp. Read the Yapp conference to figure our how we can do what another non-Spring Yapp user asked about: configuring variables such as: wallpaper to be different for our conference than they are for the other conferences; how to implement new button links that may be use ul only for our conference, like one for since -1 or \"Today's posts.\" That is enough for right now. Terry's going to get me a Yapp admin manual soon, and I will distribute it to those who want it. For anyone Be the regular or temporary correspondent between our HELP! topic and the Yapp conference. Email me for details or better still, so everybody knows what is going on, ask questions about the job here. My idea is to spare Dave, the Yapp developer, our rants about Yapp, since the Yapp conference goes to all his clients. Nobody said we had to do this, but I think if I were Dave I would not like my clients to hear all the complaints from my other clients' users. You know? Get the old board's archives from Anna (see archive thread) and make sure all our lost buddies know how to get here Sign up to brains orm with me about how to handle/leverage the advantage of the austen.com domain. Having it rather gives us the obligation, I think, to be a front door for other Austen resources on the net, but we need to caucus about how to do it. I'd like to ask Henry and two others to volunteer to help Terry and me do this planning. HTML coders: lots of things to do including incorporating Pat (Anne's) age and location table into the existing ut sadly abandoned bio pages. Would like a bio coordinator to chop down the bio questions making each record much shorter, and incorporating Anne's info. Plan for a cgi form for future. Indians would format new addi ct info. Whew. That should get us started. Amy"}, {"response": 2, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (09:29)", "body": "Rebecca, Many of us would adore seeing a first-person account of why you (as Lizzy) chose the Darcy you chose in the Dating Game the other night in the drawing room. Post in best of chat if you have time. And any other accounts from players or audience members, please. No log? Amy"}, {"response": 3, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (09:30)", "body": "Amy - You know that you can count me in on this! I'm going to telnet over there right now and check it out from that perspective."}, {"response": 4, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (09:32)", "body": "That was fast, Kaff. You are a dear."}, {"response": 5, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (10:06)", "body": "Amy: I will gladly volunteer for the HTML assignments. Learning the YAPP shell sounds like fun - but maybe over my head at the moment. How available do you want that table? How about we put that in a controlled directory rather than out for whole net to see?"}, {"response": 6, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (10:10)", "body": "] How available do you want that table? How about we put that in a controlled directory rather than out for whole net to see? ____ What does everyone else think? What sort of protection would you introduce, katy? Could be anything on a continuum from not making it available to bots, to a password.. Amy"}, {"response": 7, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (10:18)", "body": "The only protection I know of is the sort of directory protection used on this conference center. Perhaps, in the beginning, we make it only available by e-mail and one of us reviews the requests for it, so we can feel some confidence we are not sending it to list brokers. That is a lot of information to put on the net - names, ages, adresses, interests - about a lot of people."}, {"response": 8, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (10:45)", "body": "Amy, I'll start looking at the Yapp conference right away. I'll probably reserve some of this for Monday when I return to the office and have faster access. Myretta"}, {"response": 9, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (11:17)", "body": "Amy, I have made a quick foray into the Yapp shell and can only say that an admin manual would be greatly appreciated. I will continue to browse through the bbs. I've learned from nastier interfaces. I will probably hold off until Monday to continue my perus al. Let me know if there is anything specific you would like me to concentrate on. Myretta"}, {"response": 10, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (11:31)", "body": "Amy, are you going to link this to the projects conference?"}, {"response": 11, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (11:40)", "body": "] Amy, are you going to link this to the projects conference? __________ Terry, yes, I did and it works beautifully. See my comment about linking in the communitiies conference. BTW, after we lost each other, I sent you email explaining what I saw happen with the meeting connection."}, {"response": 12, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (11:41)", "body": "OK. I see you did (I should have come here first to projects and looked). You have mastered the art of linking topics across conferences I see!"}, {"response": 13, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (11:42)", "body": "What happened was that my modem dropped carrier. I'm still showing you in the NetMeeting Window as connected and I expect you to pop onto my desktop any moment."}, {"response": 14, "author": "churchh", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (13:47)", "body": "Sure Amy, I wouldn't mind if the http://www.austen.com/ start-up page had links to the Jane Austen info page and the Pride and Prejudice hypertext, and I would also link back to it... (But actually, I'm shut out of the uts.cc.utexas.edu account for the next few days or so...)"}, {"response": 15, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (14:58)", "body": "Amy, I tried last night to telnet in to Spring, but it would not accept my password (or something)."}, {"response": 16, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (15:05)", "body": "Email me and I'll reset it to whatever you want. Did you telnet://www.spring.com or telnet://spring.com You only have access so far to the first."}, {"response": 17, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (15:18)", "body": "I did e-mail you last night. Didn't you receive it? It did not bounce back to me. I used www.spring.com - and got the login prompt, but could not get farther."}, {"response": 18, "author": "Becks", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (17:07)", "body": "Amy and Friends: One have a spare moment here to post before I head off to work. I have been involved in school work, and work all weekend, therefore I haven't had a chance to keep up-to-date. As soon as I have more time (tomorrow), I will update every one on the dating game."}, {"response": 19, "author": "Zimei", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (18:29)", "body": "Amy & Terry, I tried telneting to www.sprint.com, but couldn't log in either. Do I use my usual account/passwd ? Zimei"}, {"response": 20, "author": "Arnessa", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (19:07)", "body": "Hi Amy, I'm ready and eager to pitch in wherever needed. Should have my very own little home computer set up this week. A Mac. Can't wait. Anyway, till then, do you have enough brains to storm with about austen.com? It's so exciting, like we're pioneers or something heading out to uncharted territory. OK, I'm coming unglued. I know it. I like it. -Arnessa."}, {"response": 21, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (19:08)", "body": "Oops, Zim, I knew I was forgetting someone. Sorry it was you."}, {"response": 22, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (19:10)", "body": "] Anyway, till then, do you have enough brains to storm with about austen.com? ______ No and I would like to have your opinion about it. Maybe you or HC could work out which of you could be the emissary to Austen-L. Thanks. Amy"}, {"response": 23, "author": "Arnessa", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (20:58)", "body": "Yes, I'll get in touch with HC, Amy. Oh, and Amy. I volunteer to get archives from Anna and track down old friends. I can get started on that right away with my current email from work. And it sounds like a fun job. Reminds me of a Girl Scouts' song: \"Make new friends, but keep the old. One is silver and the other gold.\" You sing it in rounds... nevermind. -Arnessa"}, {"response": 24, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (22:16)", "body": "Arness, thanks for accepting the notification job. And I am afraid I do know that round."}, {"response": 25, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (22:50)", "body": "To anyone who has a problem with their shell/telnet account: Email me and I'll fix it. mailto:terry@spring.com"}, {"response": 26, "author": "Kali", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (02:40)", "body": "Amy, as I said in my very lame e-mail, I'll do anything that I can't mess up...if you need \"more brains to storm\" re: the new domain (to borrow Arnessa's words), I'd like to try to help you there... - K"}, {"response": 27, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (06:22)", "body": "Good, Kal, then we have our team. Some god brains.Thanks. Amy"}, {"response": 28, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (06:22)", "body": "Good, Kal, then we have our team. Some good brains.Thanks. Amy"}, {"response": 29, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (07:35)", "body": "] The only protection I know of is the sort of directory protection used on this conference center. Perhaps, in the beginning, we make it only available by e-mail and one of us reviews the requests for it, so we can feel some confidence we are not sending it to list brokers. That is a lot of information to put on the net - names, ages, adresses, interests - about a lot of people. _______________ Let's ask Terry's advice about this. Security is his new specialty. Terry how would you protect us? We have not been stalked much. I think it is because we seem to sure of ourselves. Bullies don't wish to mess with us. At least that is a belief I like to hold. Still, though, one can't be too careful. Amy"}, {"response": 30, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (07:41)", "body": "I love you guys. This time yesterday I put this topic up and already all kinds of people are raising their hands. Update: - We have our austen.com brainstorming team: Arnessa, Kali, me Terry (and HC you are recruited whether you like it or not) - Katy will take over the bios, including working with me and Terry to find a safe place for them - Uniix team is starting to explore. Will have the manual available this week. - Arnessa will contact old friends to point them over here. Anyone who has email addresses that may not appear in the archives, please forward them to her - Cheryl, you want to be the team leader for ongoing maintenance jobs -- thread cleaning and moving, obscenity and manners patrol -- once the unix team figures out how to make this thing work? Amy"}, {"response": 31, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (10:01)", "body": "] - We have our austen.com brainstorming team: Arnessa, Kali, me Terry (and HC you are recruited whether you like it or not) ___ Oh and of course, Joan, my alter-conscience-soundingboard-realitychecker-bigsister. Amy"}, {"response": 32, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (10:12)", "body": "You want protection? I'm about to embark on a six week course in website security from the recognized expert in this area. So, I'm hoping this team can fill the gap of helping build the website. My time is going to be totally sucked up into this security project pretty soon. But I remain committed to helping this team and this conference succeed in every way I possibly can. New teams members, please email me for a shell account username and password. It is also possible to create private conferences on this website. And if we need this I'll be happy to create one that will require member status to visit."}, {"response": 33, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (19:52)", "body": "To be more precise: \"my alter-conscience-soundingboard- devil's-advocate-playing -realitychecker-bigsister.\""}, {"response": 34, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (20:28)", "body": "Amy, count me in for organizing the maintenance crew, but do you really know what you're asking for putting me in charge of the \"obsenity and manners patrol\"? Why just last night I was accused, in the chat room, of \"discarding my values as I would out-o f-date shoes\"!"}, {"response": 35, "author": "kendall", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (20:33)", "body": "when I brought up security - I was only thinking about scecurity for the bios. I am not afraid to have a lot of info about me on the WEB, and I cannot imagine that many of the gang is afraid of that. It is having information about maybe over a hundred people in one easily accessible place that makes me uneasy. I am beginning to like the idea of a password protected directory within austen.com. Who gets a password (or the password) becomes an admin. task."}, {"response": 36, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (20:46)", "body": "] Katy: I am beginning to like the idea of a password protected directory within austen.com. Who gets a password (or the password) becomes an admin. task. I, too, like this idea - while many of us may not mind having their info available, we do have members who are still minors, and even if their parents don't mind, I do not like the idea (or the potential liability?) of having personal info on minors freel y available to anyone on \"our\" site."}, {"response": 37, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (17:26)", "body": "Amy and/or Terry, Do you have the admin manual in readable format (or a give me a clue how to get it that way). I have downloaded it from Dave Thaler's site (as I whined about in the Yapp conference), but neither of my versions of UNIX recognize the format (I assume it's compressed - maybe not). Anyway, I await it or an answer with baited breath (or it's internet equivalent). This has been a confusing two days. I am glad to see the Spring back up and was pleased to find a stopping place on bluemarble. Please forgive any whining - it's been that kind of a day. And any typos. I'm trying to do this around a fairly large cat. Myretta"}, {"response": 38, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (17:55)", "body": "Myretta, I believe it is readable by Adobe Acrobat - is there not a Unix version of the Acrobat reader? I would go back and check at that site, but I don't know where to find the original reference to it. (Sure do miss those back-to-the-original links a t Bluemarble!) The format, if I recall, is PDF - Portable Document Format - so it is supposed to be readable in some way on any kind of machine."}, {"response": 39, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (18:18)", "body": "Just found the link to the manual over in yapp - looked at it again - it is, indeed compressed in an unfamilliar (to me) format, but when I DLed it on my Mac at home, I just dropped it on StuffIt Expander and it unpacked it with no problem. Not sure what that means for you in Unix, though."}, {"response": 40, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (18:21)", "body": "Links are back up on the old page now"}, {"response": 41, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (18:24)", "body": "Myretta, I had the same problem and noted it in the Yapp conference. Maybe Dave or Terry or the person who posted the manual URL can help us sort out the problem."}, {"response": 42, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (18:31)", "body": "Joan, do you have the capability of converting it to html and ftping it to an area on our website?"}, {"response": 43, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (18:33)", "body": "Good idea. Terry are you around? I have some two more unix dream team members' info I need to get to you. Can all the names I gave you have file permissions set to edit all the files in the conference directory including new topic files as they are create d?"}, {"response": 44, "author": "Amy", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (18:37)", "body": "Arnessa and Kali, you both sent email today about the austen.com brainstorming team. Net Meeting would be nice but Joan and Henry can't do it. Why don't we kick ideas around the easy way. I'll just set up a distribution list and we'll do it email. Try to get to that tonight. Arnessa, any objection to my distributing your note today to all in the gang: HC, me, Joan, Kali?"}, {"response": 45, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (20:21)", "body": "You have these permissions now. Before you any anthing, make a backup and be careful. It is easy to mess up these files and wipe out a whole topic. Take it from one who has done it."}, {"response": 46, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (21:11)", "body": "In the immortal words of Emily Litella, \"Never mind\". I checked with a UNIX pal and she says she will email the address to get the utility to unzip the file in UNIX. She says she thinks it's on the MIT site and is gnuzip or something like that. Anyway, as soon as I have it(which should be tomorrow), I'll post it here."}, {"response": 47, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (22:17)", "body": "We have gunzip on www and on barton. You can do it in a telnet session."}, {"response": 48, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (00:11)", "body": "] Joan, do you have the capability of converting it to html and ftping it to an area on our website? Well, I might, but I have not yet learned how to work any conversion to html tools, and it would probably be the"}, {"response": 49, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (01:02)", "body": "Rats! Long live Emily Litella! (Anyone know what I could be typing into these text entry windows that is completely invisible but causes the text to be truncated? I wish I knew what to try to avoid!)"}, {"response": 50, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (02:06)", "body": "] You have these permissions now. ___ Terry, hate to keep asking this, but I still can't write to the topic files past a certain number. Isn't there I way you can grant the team global permissoin to write to files -- even newly created ones? Or is this something you'd like our Unix heads to l ook into for you? Here's an ls -la (see, I know only enough Unix to be dangerous) of the /usr/bbs/confs/austen dir: Amy"}, {"response": 51, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (03:17)", "body": "Myretta or Joan, I was able to unzip the admin manual at the prompt here (by finding gunzip with which gunzip ) but I don't have anything on hand with which to read a PS file, except maybe an old version of PageMaker, but that won't do me much direct good. Could o ne of you email me the manual as an ascii file attachment. Then I will put it up here as a web page, maybe just in [pre][/pre] format for now, but it will be a start. Amy"}, {"response": 52, "author": "Kali", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (03:30)", "body": "Sounds like a plan, Amy...let's get crackin'... -K"}, {"response": 53, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (05:51)", "body": "Katy, Let's hold for a week on the bios/age/location chart and let Terry get his feet wet with security issues. Then maybe he will be able to propose some ways to hid our personal info. Meantime, I hate to make your willingness to do HTML work wait. Want to start on Roger's scrapbook page of Lyme Hall pictures. He will be writing something to go with them. Arnessa, If you are not finding enough email addresses in the archives, I have quite a few. Now to see if maybe my P&P folder of messages from MS Internet Mail might be transferred to your mail program. Worse comes to worse, I think I can save the whole folder as text files for you. Amy"}, {"response": 54, "author": "churchh", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (07:29)", "body": "Amy, Terry -- I finally logged in under the shell account... Terry, I didn't find the telnet BBS interface to be all that intuitive, sorry -- I think I'll pretty much stick to the Web (though if I could use the telnet to delete mistaken messages, that would be useful...) Also, I had problems because the backspace character was set to ^H instead of ^?, and I couldn't fix my configuration files to set this in stty because the only editor that is available is VI, and I rigidly refuse to devote any brain cells to learning VI (I've been using EMACS since 1988 -- the only VI command I know is ESC-Z-Z), sorry I'm not religiously compatible... Amy, I looked at ~amy/aust_admin/admin_guide.ps and that is NOT a PDF file, it's a raw PostScript file, so that Adobe Acrobat Reader will NOT be able to read it. What you need is a full postscript interpreter -- you can get one at ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs403w32.zip (32-bit Windows executable) ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs403fn1.zip (Fonts #1) ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs403fn2.zip (Fonts #2) ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs403ini.zip (Non-executable support and configuration files) These ar BIG because a full postscript interpreter has to be pretty elaborate.."}, {"response": 55, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (07:35)", "body": "We need to get that file converted to html. Anyone volunteer for this tasks? Joan? Does anyone have Pagemaker? If you have the new Pagemaker it will load that file and you can write it back out as an html file."}, {"response": 56, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (08:35)", "body": "Mysterious HC, all you have to do in telnet is type bbs. Then type r for read, n for next, and r for respond after you've read something you want to comment on. And you can set your editor to pico if vi is an anaethma to you."}, {"response": 57, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (09:34)", "body": "Thanks H. Terry, how do you set the editor to pico. Joan was trying to do it last night and had some troubles. I have never done such a thing at all."}, {"response": 58, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (09:42)", "body": "You have a file in your home directory called .profile. It should look like this: bash$ cat .profile PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/contrib/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/new:/usr/local:/usr/games:/usr/old:/usr/sbin. export PATH HOME TERM EDITOR=/usr/contrib/bin/pico Note the last line.. Just add this to your .profile directory and add /usr/contrb/bin to your PATH statement."}, {"response": 59, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (09:47)", "body": "But you won't have to do anything, because I already reset your .profile file and you should have pico as your default editor. Actually, your .profile file looked *nothing* like the above file at all. It is much more elaborate."}, {"response": 60, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (09:49)", "body": "Thank you, thank you, thank you for the pico."}, {"response": 61, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (10:06)", "body": "Test it and see if it works."}, {"response": 62, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (10:48)", "body": "] possible to create private conferences on this website. ___ I can think of a couple people who might want to take advantage of that feature."}, {"response": 63, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (10:51)", "body": "] Test it and see if it works. __ Terry, I am a little embarrassed to admit it, but I am still kind of going around in circles at the prompt here. I know I accidentally got into VI when trying some command or other from the help commands listing the other day, but darned if I can get there now. Thanks, though, for changing my editor to Pico. It is much more comfortable for me. My main orientation/first step stumble remains my inability to edit topic files beyond the first few. I do so wish I could do that. Amy"}, {"response": 64, "author": "Bernie", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (11:05)", "body": "I may be completely jumping on the wrong bandwagon, so feel free to correct me but Corel Wordperfect (v.3.5 for the Mac, I think it's v.7 for a PC) is supposed to be HTML friendly. BTW, I'm prepared to help with HTMLising documents. Still a novice but willing to learn."}, {"response": 65, "author": "Bernie", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (11:06)", "body": "I may be completely jumping on the wrong bandwagon, so feel free to correct me but Corel Wordperfect (v.3.5 for the Mac, I think it's v.7 for a PC) is supposed to be HTML friendly. BTW, I'm prepared to help with HTMLising documents. Still a novice but willing to learn."}, {"response": 66, "author": "Bernie", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (11:54)", "body": "I've just tried practising what I've preached. Took a random text file, opened it in WP, edited it, saved it as an HTML export and managed to open it in Netscape's editor. Looked OK. Unfortunately, couldn't get into www.spring.com via telnet. Joan, perhaps you can E\ufffdmail me the manual either in pdf or text format (I have Adobe Acrobat). I should manage to do something with it then. Do you think this will work?"}, {"response": 67, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (12:29)", "body": "I think we need someone with Pagemaker to tackle this Bernie. If you email me with the name and password you need, I can help to set you up. mailto:terry@spring.com I need some help with Children's Story. I'm not happy with at all. I played around with resizing the gifs so they fit better on a tv screen now. But this needs more spark and pizzazz. Anyone want to help me tackle this? Check out the topic called 'childrens story' in the project conference. Amy, I set it up so pico is your default editor and I posed your question about permissions to Dave. I have no idea why it won't let you work on certain number ranges and not others. That doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe I'm missing some specifics. See my comment in the yapp conferece about this ok. I bumped www.austen.com up to 36mbs of memory and we're installing NT 4.0 over again today. I need a bigger hard drive than 500mbs for this machine. Eventually, it will also be the site of Children Story and tvpc and a realaudio server (which we can have fun with). I'd like to get to start knowing everyone on the dream team a lot better and find out who has what skills in what areas."}, {"response": 68, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (14:25)", "body": "It is very important (essential) that everyone who has a shell account create a .forward file in this format: \\terry,terry@yourhome.com Where the first name is your username here and the second is where you normally get your email. If you need help with this, I'll be glad to pitch in and help."}, {"response": 69, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (15:17)", "body": "create a .forward file ___ Done"}, {"response": 70, "author": "churchh", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (16:09)", "body": "Should it have to have a backslash and everything? On the systems here, a .forward file consists of only the address to be forwarded to..."}, {"response": 71, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (16:36)", "body": "Strange as it may seem, a forward, dos style slash is what you use. This was not a typo. Defies logic, doesn't it?"}, {"response": 72, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (17:22)", "body": "Getting there with the manual. Got it unzipped here, Myretta kindly mailed me a PS reader. Terry, where is kermit? Or don't you have it?"}, {"response": 73, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (17:34)", "body": "I have the professional version of Adobe Acrobat at work, which will convert postscript files to .pdf format. I'll convert it tomorrow. Terry - Is (or can you make) the reader available for download here? I haven't checked yet, but I assume that the manual is big enough that .pdf format would be preferable to html."}, {"response": 74, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (17:45)", "body": "The reader already is available for download in the apps conference. Has anyone here visited the 'apps' conference? It's an amazing collection of topics on Internet tools. Over 300 tools and topics here. This is a virtual candy store! We're getting closer and closer to unlocking that manual. Let;'s get that thing converted to postscript and put it up on the website somewhere. We can have our cake and eat it too, now can't we."}, {"response": 75, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (18:55)", "body": "Kaff, it's 36 pages, could go either way. I'd vote Acrobat, though. I don't know if you will have the same trouble I had. I tried to copy the text page by page (the only way available in RoPS) and it did not read in too well, kind of fuzzy. But I guess going from straight PS direct to Acrobat won't present a problem. How nice it is to have all you guys willing to help -- and with such great resources too."}, {"response": 76, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (19:20)", "body": "Well, it all just became a moot point, because I just found the manual online! Check out http://workshop.matisse.net/yapp/oug/"}, {"response": 77, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (19:21)", "body": "I'm not sure that this is the same manual we've been talking about. This may be more of a users manual as opposed to an administrators manual."}, {"response": 78, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (19:23)", "body": "Boy do I hate not getting here till it's almost bedtime for everyone else and all of the action is over! :-( I guess that it's safe to ignore all of the manual questions, etc, since Kaff seems to have it under control? I do have Pagemaker but it's only the 4.2. (1992) version. Terry said: Actually, your .profile file looked *nothing* like the above file at all. It is much more elaborate. Terry, are you sure that will work? It looks to me as if you are using a different shell than we are. Sometimes things like this are the same in different shells, but some are different. The editor statement that we got as defalut says: EDITOR=vi; export EDITOR while yours says: EDITOR=/usr/contrib/bin/pico So the format doesn't look as if it's the same. Joan, too"}, {"response": 79, "author": "churchh", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (21:03)", "body": "Joan, in Unix the semicolon means \"begin a new command\" it's actually equivalent to a linebreak. I use tcsh, and all I have to say is: setenv EDITOR /usr/contrib/bin/pico in my .cshrc"}, {"response": 80, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Wed, Dec  4, 1996 (23:09)", "body": "] HC: setenv EDITOR /usr/contrib/bin/pico This is how it is done in my Netcom account, too - but will it work in this shell? I don't see any other instances of \"setenv\" in my .profile file."}, {"response": 81, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (03:38)", "body": "The French language material deserves its own topic. Would someone like to take the time to find the relevant messages, mostly in the Introduce yourselves topic, collect them and plop them in a new thread?"}, {"response": 82, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (03:58)", "body": "Well, I, too, created a forward file, but it does not seem to be forwarding the mail to my other address. I sent myself a test message from here, and then I sent one from there to here. Both messages arrived at their destinations, but the one that should have been forwarded from here, did not go back to the other address - however, a very unexpected thing did happen. When the message from there to here arrived here, it was immediately displayed in my telnet session in the middle of whatever else was going on - I mean the text and everything! Is it possibe that that .forward file is forwarding the message out of Pine into the Telnet sesion? In any case, it seems to be ignoring the other address that is entered there."}, {"response": 83, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (04:11)", "body": "Oops - I just tried to exit and got the following: Ok: ^Z%2 Stopped www.spring.com$ exit You have stopped jobs. www.spring.com$ What does that mean? And what should I do about it? I may have to do something ungraceful to get out!"}, {"response": 84, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (04:49)", "body": "Heaven, yes, Kaffeine. The manual at the URL you cited is good, all cross linked and includes Yapp sysop and Unix administrator help. Thanks for preventing us from reinventing the wheel. Only thing I didn't check out was what version it all refers to and whether there is much on the web implementation of it. But it looks like a great place to start."}, {"response": 85, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (06:08)", "body": "Joan, I'll try sending you a test mail and see if it gets to you. Your .forward file looks ok. I'm still not sure the two manuals are the same. Matisse s manaul is posted here also, but it's been around for a while and I believe the postscript manual is a newly minted, comprehesive administrators guide. We could ask Dave or Kaylene."}, {"response": 86, "author": "churchh", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (06:10)", "body": "Joan - setenv works for csh/tcsh The set/export method is used in sh/ksh/bash If you're used to csh or tcsh (tcsh is much better in my opinion...) you can change permanently to it by using the \"chsh\" command. You can change temporarily into it by just typing csh or tcsh at the command prompt. ``Suspended jobs'' means you pressed control-Z somewhere, so the program did not exit, but is merely suspended. It's best to go back to the programs and properly quit from them. I don't know how you go back to suspended jobs in sh, but in csh/tcsh, merely type the command % (percent sign by itself on command-line)."}, {"response": 87, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (06:17)", "body": "You can try typing fg to go back to a suspended job. Usually it won't hurt to leave a process suspended. It will eventually wash out. Henry and I just posted simultaneously."}, {"response": 88, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (08:24)", "body": "Myretta, much to my relief and gratitude, has agreed to coordinate the so-called UNIX team, called so because it is a team exploring the possibilities of Yapp, and one has to be semi-comfortable at the prompt to see what is going on. She will be starting some getting-started talk via email. The austen.com planning team will start its own email talks, starting with some notes from Arnessa appended with some notes of my own. See email distribution lists for both committees: Here. I will put the link on the main conference page too."}, {"response": 89, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (08:38)", "body": "Just in case they (manual on the web and postscript manual) are different (and I haven't checked yet, but they certainly look similar) here's the file in Adobe Acrobat format: http://www.worldrch/com/docs/admin.pdf"}, {"response": 90, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (08:40)", "body": "Oops! Let's try that link with the correct URL! Sorry! http://www.worldrch.com/docs/admin.pdf"}, {"response": 91, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (09:28)", "body": "Thanks for doing that conversion, Kaff. I don't use Acrobat much. Just upgraded to the 3.0 reader. So maybe my mistakes will help others. When I just clicked \"regular\" on the link my Acrobat ap opened and I got some kind of error message about a plug in. I was able to download the file by right clicking --- I know Joan, I know, it's not my fault that you Mac -- and choosing \"Save Target As...\" in Microsoft Internet Explorer for Win 95. DL took a little over 2 minutes at 14.4 Thanks again. Now let's see if I can open it! Amy"}, {"response": 92, "author": "Zimei", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (10:39)", "body": "One word about the dsyntax of setting environment variables in various unix shell: csh/tcsh : (init file is .cshrc for csh, I think tcsh too) setenv EDITOR /usr/local/bin/emacs sh/ksh : (init file is .profile; note env var needs to be exported explictly) EDITOR=/usr/local/bin/emacs; export EDITOR bash : (init file = .bashrc) export EDITOR=/usr/local/bin/emacs To know what shell you are running, type \"echo $SHELL\" at the command line. BTW Amy, did you receive my email a few days ago ? I still can not login. Zimei"}, {"response": 93, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (10:53)", "body": "Zimei, email me and I'll fix you up with a username and password, or, if you already have a username, I'll set your password. OK?"}, {"response": 94, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (11:04)", "body": "I wish I had more time to respond to a lot of the things said but I'm rushing off to get access.spring.com back on line so I'll be out of pocket all day. If anyone needs to get a shell account straightened out, email me at mailto://terry@spring.com And I'll fix it! I'll be back online later tonight or tomorrow."}, {"response": 95, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (19:55)", "body": "] Terry: Joan, I'll try sending you a test mail and see if it gets to you. Thenks Terry - if you have done so, it has not yet arrived. (I haven't checked here yet.) BTW, how can I prevent incoming mail from interrupting what I am doing to display itself in complete detail, all unbidden? This is most disruptive behavior on the part of e-mail messages - I have enough trouble figuring out what I am doing in Unix without such interference! ] HC: If you're used to csh or tcsh you can change permanently to it by using the \"chsh\" command. Thanks HC - I may do this I am used to csh - to the extent that I am used to any shell (which is indeed limited). ;-) ] HC: ``Suspended jobs'' means you pressed control-Z somewhere, so the program did not exit, but is merely suspended. Ah, indeed I did - to get out of \"bbs\" mode. I suppose I should have tried quitting or something instead. Or !sh? !something, anyway. ] Terry: You can try typing fg to go back to a suspended job. This rings a very small bell ever so faintly..."}, {"response": 96, "author": "Anna", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (22:12)", "body": "Arnessa, I've twice tried to send you an email re addresses in the archives using your 'tag' here and had it bounced by the postmaster@globe as unknown addressee, and unfortunately i've misplaced your earlier email. Would you please email me again. thanks A"}, {"response": 97, "author": "Cheryl", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (00:30)", "body": "I wandered in here by accident...this is a scary place..."}, {"response": 98, "author": "Anna", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:09)", "body": "Here be Dragons."}, {"response": 99, "author": "Amy", "date": "Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (04:47)", "body": "Anna, see a better address for her on the new Committee Email link from the main Austen conference page here."}, {"response": 100, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (07:01)", "body": "Anybody know much about Java? Katy you said you were studying it. Mich, I think you said you were going to read up on it over the holiday. Terry, it will probably play a part in security issues -- no? Anyway, I noticed at tvpc.com there is a Java back button that does not seen to screw up the page here in Yapp when you return. Of course, it would only work for pages we make ourselves, but worth putting on the list for a look see? Probably way down the list."}, {"response": 101, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (12:33)", "body": "Sure, that's a neat way to keep folks captive on your site. Otherise, they click away to never return."}, {"response": 102, "author": "Becks", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (15:46)", "body": "No kidding, Cher!"}, {"response": 103, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (18:48)", "body": "Katy, the first of Roger's photographs are in my public_html directory here: /~amy/Pempix*.jpg Just got more today. When you are ready for them let me know and I will either email them or put them up as with the first batch. Amy"}, {"response": 104, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sat, Dec  7, 1996 (20:21)", "body": "\"Anybody know much about Java?\" Well, my sister is writing a book about it... \"Jumping JavaScript\" book is more universal: it's for Mac, Windows 95, UNIX. Not sure how much she is up for being used as a resource, though. I seldom ask her, because I can never understand her answers, anyway [grin] (THat is a reflection on my lanck of wherewithal to understand it, not her explanations)"}, {"response": 105, "author": "redfive", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (18:03)", "body": "I've read through most of the responses thus far, and though I'm far too much of a novice to offer any skills in Unix, Perl, or even HTML, I *do* have a battery of graphics applications and viewers including Photomagic, Paint Shop Pro, KeyView and Pagemaker5. If any of these are of use to you or you want graphics processed, sized and e-mailed back, just let me have the file and the spec and I'd be glad to do it. Sorry I can't offer more, but what I can do I'll be only to ready to do."}, {"response": 106, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec  8, 1996 (18:15)", "body": "WE could use yoru critdal faculties on our http://www.childrenstory.com website which is a supporint project here."}, {"response": 107, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (00:28)", "body": "I went over to austen.net and made sure that the dedicated austen.com domain and the golftravel.net domains were set up on the NT Server. I had to resubmit the change of ip address to the Internic. So look for these domains to start resolving correctly early next week. Until the names resolve, Amy will be able to ftp website content to http://207.113.199.71 or http://www.austen.com when the Internic puts out the new name golftravel.net is 207.113.199.71"}, {"response": 108, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (00:39)", "body": "barton:~ whois bastrop.net Bastrop Internet Services (BASTROP2-DOM) Rt 1 Box 564 Cedar Creek, TX 78612 USA Domain Name: BASTROP.NET Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact: Holman, Richard S (RSH13) Administrator@BASTROP.NET (512) 303-7268 Record last updated on 19-Dec-96. Record created on 15-Aug-96. Domain servers in listed order: DNS.BASTROP.NET 207.113.199.10 DNS2.BASTROP.NET 207.113.199.70 The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. barton:~ whois austen.com Jane Austen Conference on the Spring (AUSTEN-DOM) Rt 2 Box 56R Cedar Creek, TX 78612 USA Domain Name: AUSTEN.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact: Walhus, Paul (PW30) terry@SPRING.COM 512/310-9903x1044 Record last updated on 01-Dec-96. Record created on 24-Nov-96. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.CRL.COM 165.113.1.36 NS2.CRL.COM 165.113.1.37 The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. barton:~ whois golftravel.net Golf Travel (GOLFTRAVEL2-DOM) 940 Camille Ln Alamo, CA 94507 USA Domain Name: GOLFTRAVEL.NET Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Walhus, Paul (PW30) terry@SPRING.COM 512/310-9903x1044 Record last updated on 06-Dec-96. Record created on 09-Sep-96. Domain servers in listed order: DNS1.SPRING.COM 208.199.212.2 DNS2.SPRING.COM 208.199.212.3 The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. barton:~"}, {"response": 109, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (00:57)", "body": "Terry, you up? Come on over to Kaff's drawing room."}, {"response": 110, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (00:57)", "body": "Terry, you up? Come on over to Kaff's drawing room."}, {"response": 111, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (01:19)", "body": "OK."}, {"response": 112, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (13:16)", "body": "Would anybody be up for taking on the job of working with me to collapse some of these topics? Now that we have a clue how to edit topic files, it's time to start doing some clean up here. No experience required. We will start slow and learn as we go."}, {"response": 113, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (18:00)", "body": "May I be of assistance. Will have to learn from scratch."}, {"response": 114, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (18:02)", "body": "Great! Love to work with you. Lets set up a time to talk in the Solicitor's office tomorrow. I have a deadline today that I am busy procrastinating for. When is usually a good time for you, Johanne?"}, {"response": 115, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (18:36)", "body": "Between 10 and 3 eastern tomorrow exceptionnaly."}, {"response": 116, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (18:45)", "body": "Okay, how about 1 eastern?"}, {"response": 117, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (18:49)", "body": "It's a date, at Pemberley?"}, {"response": 118, "author": "Amy", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (23:39)", "body": "Fri at 1 then we have revised. Right?"}, {"response": 119, "author": "JohanneD", "date": "Wed, Jan  8, 1997 (23:46)", "body": "Okydoky"}, {"response": 120, "author": "churchh", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (01:21)", "body": "Amy -- I think If we do anything that would cause messages in a topic to be renumbered, it would foul things up elsewhere in the system (for those people who haven't suffered all is new, that is...)"}, {"response": 121, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (20:47)", "body": "Messages to be renumbered... trouble __ True. But we have to do something. People are afraid to come here, it looks so intimidating. I hear it more and more every day. I may start by just freezing some topics that have not been posted to in a while."}, {"response": 122, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (20:48)", "body": "Messages to be renumbered... trouble __ True. But we have to do something. People are afraid to come here, it looks so intimidating. I hear it more and more every day. I may start by just freezing some topics that have not been posted to in a while."}, {"response": 123, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (20:49)", "body": "Messages to be renumbered... trouble __ True. But we have to do something. People are afraid to come here, it looks so intimidating. I hear it more and more every day. I may start by just freezing some topics that have not been posted to in a while."}, {"response": 124, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (20:49)", "body": "Messages to be renumbered... trouble __ True. But we have to do something. People are afraid to come here, it looks so intimidating. I hear it more and more every day. I may start by just freezing some topics that have not been posted to in a while."}, {"response": 125, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (20:50)", "body": "Wow! a quadruple hiccup!"}, {"response": 126, "author": "Anna", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (21:05)", "body": "]I may start by just freezing some topics that have not been posted to in a while. the other group that could be safely deleted is those topics that alert people to an upcoming event that has now passed, and has not generated any discussion since; mostly alerts for cable tv showing of various movies. Alternatively maybe they could be moved into a new forum Austen Archives (or similar) for the truly keen. (having just paged through all the topics as a recent victim of 'old is new')"}, {"response": 127, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (21:44)", "body": "Amy - It occurs to me that when we switch to austin.com we have a real opportunity to control the chaos. We could decide on specific topics beforehand and then limit topic creation. Rather than everyone being allowed to create a topic, we could have a \"Topic Suggestion\" topic, which would keep the number of topics to a minimum. When are we looking at going live with austin.com?"}, {"response": 128, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (21:51)", "body": "I am not sure we will move this part, Kaff. The austen.com planning has been stalled in favor of working out some of the basic sysadmin issues, but we can begin to move forward now, I think."}, {"response": 129, "author": "Kaffeine", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (22:05)", "body": "Well, then - How about deciding which existing topics to keep and then archiving and deleting the rest? I think that over 100 topics is definately over the top. It seems to me that we could have a couple of dozen topics which would not be nearly as intimidating as coming in for the first time and seeing hundreds of them."}, {"response": 130, "author": "Amy", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (22:26)", "body": "Agreed. 100%. We are way overdue for this."}, {"response": 131, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (22:51)", "body": "One good way to consolidate is to copy and paste the contents of an entire topic in a single response of another topic and then delete the topic you copied and pasted from. That way no one gets upset about someone else deleting their words. I call this \"transplanting\"."}, {"response": 132, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (22:54)", "body": "To start with, we have two Nostromo topics at the moment."}, {"response": 133, "author": "Ann", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (22:54)", "body": ""}, {"response": 134, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (23:08)", "body": "\" Response 125 of 133: Ann (Ann) * Thu, Jan 9, 1997 (20:50) * 1 lines Wow! a quadruple hiccup!' And it hasn't even happened yet! (1/9/97)"}, {"response": 135, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (23:14)", "body": "] Amy - It occurs to me that when we switch to austin.com we have a real ] opportunity to control the chaos. We could decide on specific topics ] beforehand and then limit topic creation. Rather than everyone being ] allowed to create a topic, we could have a \"Topic Suggestion\" topic, ] which would keep the number of topics to a minimum. But this is entirely contrary to the original spirit and conception of the BBS. I would go for moving/retiring topics either to an archive (if they have died a natural death), or to their own conference areas (if they have grown overpoweringly large and need to be clustered/broken down/whatever. For example, there could be an entirely separate conference for the topics containing our own writings/rewirtings/sequels/prequels/letters to and from fictitious characters."}, {"response": 136, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (23:20)", "body": "One good way to consolidate is to copy and paste the contents of an entire topic in a single response of another topic and then delete the topic you copied and pasted from. That way no one gets upset about someone else deleting their words. I call this \"transplanting\". Actually, this is a bad way for anyone trying to do a search who gets a hit in a huge undifferentiated transplant. Ideally it should be transplanted response by response - do we know (or can we discover) whether there is an easy way to \"automate\" something like this - a script or something that would in effect move the topic in tact, but re-number the postings to fit into the number range of the"}, {"response": 137, "author": "mich", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (00:49)", "body": "Just my two cents but I think it would be very sad if we limited the new topic generation. I agree with Joan hat it would change the spirit. Could we solve the problem by setting up some guidelines so we are more organized about creating topics? Try and stop duplicates from happening. I know this will not solve all the issues but it may help. Mich"}, {"response": 138, "author": "churchh", "date": "Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (05:17)", "body": "Joan -- the date problem was partly my fault... The clock was set to a wacko time, about 9hrs fast, and I reset the hour and minute to the correct time without paying any attention to the date at all, so it ended up exactly 24hrs fast!"}, {"response": 139, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Thu, Jan  9, 1997 (07:15)", "body": "so it ended up exactly 24hrs fast! The date is now correct."}, {"response": 140, "author": "Carolineevans", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (08:49)", "body": "Amy, all, do you have room for one more here? For simple stuff?"}, {"response": 141, "author": "Amy", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (11:03)", "body": "Great, Caroline. Do you do any HTML yet?"}, {"response": 142, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (12:30)", "body": "I saw that time warp Henry created and reset it to the approx correct time. It does funny things to your outgoing mail."}, {"response": 143, "author": "jwinsor", "date": "Sun, Jan 12, 1997 (19:31)", "body": "HC: Joan -- the date problem was partly my fault... I know Henry - it just struck me as funny - a quadruple hiccup in the future. (OK, I have a warped sense of humor.) Terry: It does funny things to your outgoing mail. Now that prospect is even funnier! projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 7, "subject": "Texaltel", "response_count": 7, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Mon, Dec  2, 1996 (18:12)", "body": "I got the go ahead on this project today to build the website. Does anyone want to help me work on this or help critique what I do. http://www.spring.com/~texaltel is the contract I got oked. I've got to modify it as I'm not doing the dialup or hosting, just the website construction."}, {"response": 2, "author": "Amy", "date": "Mon, Dec  2, 1996 (21:02)", "body": "Terry, until today I felt unsure I would be able to help very soon with any of these porjects but I got a little tide-me-over today in the form of a long written-off receivable. It's bought me about three weeks. Tell me what is most urgent."}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Dec  3, 1996 (00:18)", "body": "I need some system admin help in building a new primary bsdi server. Or linux. Something to take the place of access.spring.com. On the topic, I'll be working on Texaltel and Childrens' Story this week if you want to help out with these."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (11:05)", "body": "This project is on temporary hold for 2 days to 2 weeks approx. till we get a go ahead letter from the State Ethics Commission. So let's focus on Children's Story and tvpc for now."}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (00:06)", "body": "We've received the go ahead letter and funding. I need to hire an html coder immediately. Please get in touch with me asap if you would like to tackle this."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul  3, 1997 (13:12)", "body": "We're moving on this. Mary has talked to Sheri."}, {"response": 7, "author": "doug", "date": "Thu, Jul  3, 1997 (16:48)", "body": "We can work on this for you doing pages, graphics etc. let me know the details projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 8, "subject": "building an html shop in Bastrop", "response_count": 6, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Dec 28, 1996 (23:56)", "body": "I am having difficulty getting Windows 95 to recognize 3com 3c509 network cards. I am trying to configure 5 systems with three of these and a couple of SMC cards (WDC 8003). I have the driver disks from the manufacturers of the cards and have tried a variety of irqs and address settings."}, {"response": 2, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (13:26)", "body": "You know, Terry, I am having trouble with 3com netcards and Windows95 myself. I have the additional fun of a Packard Bell. If you find out any tricks, let me know. It is driving me nuts. WER"}, {"response": 3, "author": "terry", "date": "Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (14:24)", "body": "Will do WER. When I see WER it reminds me of Whole Earth Review Good to see you stopping back in. Have an Italian restaurant for you to consider in your forthcoming rankings (L'Opera in the Lakeline Mall)."}, {"response": 4, "author": "KitchenManager", "date": "Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (14:57)", "body": "Gotcha! WER"}, {"response": 5, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jul  2, 1997 (14:45)", "body": "I would like to invite Doug & Laura and Mary and Abram for a visit to studios in Cedar Creek this weekend. We could have a strategy meeting and training session. Perhaps Sharon Jones and Fernando would like to attend."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Jul  8, 1997 (21:03)", "body": "Perhaps we could do that this weekend? Feedback anyone? projects conference Main Menu"}]}, {"num": 9, "subject": "system administration", "response_count": 9, "posts": [{"response": 1, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Wed, Jan  1, 1997 (20:10)", "body": "Terry, I have limited time, but some of it is yours, if I can help."}, {"response": 2, "author": "terry", "date": "Wed, Jan  1, 1997 (22:40)", "body": "Sure, also spidman has joined us. He's setting up the latest version of apache on access.spring.com as we speak and I hope we can get our makewebserver script working over there. We have two scripts: makedns and makewebserver which we use to create new dedicated domains such as austen.com and mem.com etc. Your help would be greatly appreciated. How much system admin stuff have you done?"}, {"response": 3, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Thu, Jan  2, 1997 (07:01)", "body": "Terry, As I have been a technology manager for the last 3 years, my system administration experience is all pre-web. I have and continue to day to administration and management on unix based transaction processing systems. I'm supporting AIX and Sun OS right now. Haven't touched BSD in about 3 years. Haven't done any shell scripting in a while. I'm probably a good person to monitor and troubleshoot system processes, file system utilization, do crontab management, that sort of nuts and bolts thing. 'm willing to learn, but don't want to bog you down in my learning curve. Maybe my best role is advisor to Unix novices."}, {"response": 4, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (00:00)", "body": "I welcome your contribution, whatever form it takes. I'm learning quite a bit of AIX and SUN OS at my new job. It's keeping me so busy that I don't have near as much time to spend here as I once did."}, {"response": 5, "author": "mrobens", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (13:03)", "body": "Terry, What I intend to do is create an Austen Administration topic in deeper. I'll use this to field issues from the Austen Conference Hosts and anyone else to whom I can be of assistance. I will also monitor the Austen Help topic. From this vantage point, I can see what kind of systems issues are turning up, solve the ones I can solve and act as liaison to the yapp conference and to you for those I can't. I am slowly learning my way around yapp, so things should get easier there for me. I've covered this with Amy and the rest of her UNIX team and am going to proceed unless I hear otherwise from you. Again, thanks for giving us a home."}, {"response": 6, "author": "terry", "date": "Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (22:24)", "body": "Please proceed and stretch the boundaries! I need to set up an admin account for you on access.spring.com. Our newest machine which only has two users so far. It's got a couple of mbs hard drive and the newest versiosn of BSDI and Apache webservers."}, {"response": 7, "author": "terry", "date": "Thu, Jul  3, 1997 (07:09)", "body": "Terry, On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Paul Terry Walhus wrote: > Congratulations on the new baby to come. My baby name is Chelsea... > I tried restarting the realaudio server today with no success using your > directions in the projects conference. I re-start for you today, follow below steps: su cd /usr/local/realaudio/pnserver ./bin/pnserver ./server.cfg ps xa | grep pnserver > Also, will I be able to set up new domains this weekend using those > scripts.\ufffd Do they work? For new domain names, I will a procedure list of the things to do to setup a virtual host, the two scripts makedns and makewebserver work but you need to setp the IP and DNS entry first, which not easy to use a script to do... :( Just drop me a mail and I will setup for you for new virtual host name. Ted"}, {"response": 8, "author": "ratthing", "date": "Wed, Dec  9, 1998 (15:54)", "body": "are there any updates to this information?"}, {"response": 9, "author": "terry", "date": "Tue, Apr 13, 1999 (11:33)", "body": "Domain list (some need updating): access /www access.spring.net guadalupestreet.com silkcloth.com austen.com lamarboulevard.com spring.net bioregion.com lifespaces.com stats brucesterling.com motorblade.com suzyamis.com burnetroad.com ratthing.com teachai.com congressavenue.com researchblvd.com thedrag.com firth.com roxburyguys.com webmake.txt www /var/www/webdocs adultstory.com golftravel.net stats austen.com janhooks.com teachai.com childrenstory.com mindfolks.com texasequityloan.com clearminds.com roxburyguys.com tvpc.com eatsolar.com starlust.com webarter.net barton /var/webdocs boat.org minds.org stats brucesterling.com photobooth.com tvpc.com divecruise.com ratthing.com mfeedback.com repeater.org projects conference Main Menu"}]}]}