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Topic 14 · 96 responses · archived october 2000
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~terry seed
bicycling for fitness.
~terry #1
I want to get back in to bicycling, and saw this on the newsgroups: FS: $400-Raleigh M800 Aluminum Mountain Bike dan@cs.utexas.edu daniel f. jones at CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin This is an equally great bike for campus or on the trails. Some of the features include: Classic Rock Shox Very light off road use Deore LX components U-lock Trek mini-pump Helmet FREE Lifetime tune-ups at Sun and Ski (haven't ridden since last) Secure credit card payment over web available. I don't know the height off hand, but I am about 6' 2" and have the seat at a high setting. I would imagine that anyone between 5' 8" and 6' 3" would be comfortable. I am located in S. Austin for the next few weeks. 356-5761 (home) 796-0951 (away) -Dan Is this a good deal?
~stacey #2
First of all... NEVER, NEVER, NEVER buy a used helmet... you can always afford the minimum $30 bucks for one you KNOW has never been structurally compromised. As far as the bike... size is not just about reaching the pedals you should have a stand over heighth (distance between the top tube and you) of about 1 1/2 inches on a mountain bike. Then all brands are different and the fit will depends a lot on whether or not your upper body can reach comfortably to the handle bars. There is a LOT to explain about cycling fit before you can determine if it is a good deal for you. My advice... take a look-see into Bicycle Sports Shop (on Toomey Rd just North of Barton Springs Rd) ask for Chris Thomas (shop manager) and tell him 'Peaches' sent you in (don't ask!! :-)) He will give you all the explanation and question time you need (or will set you up with someone who can!) Used bikes are a great option, depending on how hard you want to ride... frames, materials and components have only improved over the years and every year things get cheaper... (so excited Paul that you are going to start riding again!!!)
~terry #3
I'll check it out on my lunch break next week, that bike shop is just down the street from the place I eat lunch a lot, Casa de Luz. Cool! I am tempted to ask though.
~stacey #4
did ya go???
~terry #5
Not yet. It's been *raining*!!!
~stacey #6
from what I understand, that is a welcome occurance! (you CAN ride in the rain though!)
~stacey #7
what ever happened with the bicycle search? Big MTB ride today. First time since last Spring that the cycling tights have been dragged out! Up on the top of an overlook, I was gushing about the scenery, the trees changing colors, the clarity of everything and Brandon said, "Look, not a person, road or car in sight... We could be ANYWHERE right now." I thought about it for a moment and realized that, although he was referring to locations deep in the wilderness, we could NOT be 'anywhere.' There is no view like that in Houston, in Chicago or even in Florida. The area is so decidedly unique in its beauty. I really love Colorado and wish I could show it to everyone! Again, although my fitness level seems to have waned, I am so glad I keep myself in a physical condition to do the things I do. You cannot drive nor teleport to the site I saw today. I feel lucky.
~KitchenManager #8
as indeed you are...
~terry #9
It got back burnered, but I still want to do it.
~stacey #10
The weather here has been atypically cold and on Sunday, with the temp high of 5 degrees above zero, I decided to go mountain biking. Ummm... watch out for the toes! Damn it was cold. I forsaked the sleek cycling look for my down and Gor-Tex parka... fondly referred to as "The Androgenous Parka" for very visually obvious reasons. When I came home, my feet were SO cold I could hardly walk. I stuck them in a bowl full of cold water until they thawed out!~ Brandon loves the ice biking phenom... I think I'll wait until the mercury sees 20+ again before trying that again!
~PT #11
Buy a pair of heavy, woolen, socks, make a cutout for your cleats, and put them on over your shoes. If that dousn't work, do the same thing with the neoprene boots from a wetsuit.
~stacey #12
it's the cleat/SPD connection that makes my foot so cold! I'm just going to get a neoprene liner for the bottom of my shoe, I suppose!
~PT #13
That ought to work. Insulating the rest of your foot will help also. If that is the only place for heat to escape, it will me much warmer there.
~terry #14
I think today's the day I'm really going to go to Bucks Bikes. I'll go to the one on Research and see what they've got.
~ratthing #15
i know so little about bikes nowadays and i'd like to buy one myself. tell us all about what you learn today.
~stacey #16
well... didya? didya??
~terry #17
Not yet. Everything else came up. But I wanna. I wanna.
~stacey #18
I'm going to take my bike to work tomorrow and ride with a coworker up the mountain road... helmets all around!
~PT #19
The real fun is coming back down.
~stacey #20
i prefer downhill on trails, not so much on roads. i've already had my fair share of road rash, even at my young age
~terry #21
"Bicycling causes impotence in men." Comments. Suggestions.
~stacey #22
bullshit
~ratthing #23
i am guessing it has something to do with heating up the family jewels, or with restricting blood flow to the jewels or to the other naughty parts. the whole issue of lowering sperm counts in men by doing bicycling is pretty questionable, imho.
~stacey #24
now... reducing fertility is an entirely different issue. The cycling shorts can get pretty heated and reducing the number of healthy sperm is certainly at issue but impotence... that's simply not true.
~stacey #25
I became a little roadie this weekend. My boss has a small Gitane road bike that hasn't been road worthy for awhile and is way too small for him... We fixed it up (replaced brake cables and tweaked shifters) this weekend and I've been riding it all around. What a change from off-raoding... I don't like cars but there are plenty of routes around here that are relatively motor traffic free... I'm riding it home tonight... Woo Woo!
~aschuth #26
I used to run a gorgeous blue metallic Francesco Moser, a small italian racing frame. Got me everywhere, and in a whiz. Lightnin' streak of blue! Wonderful built, all cables in blue covers, nearly like the frame, everything so BEAUTIFUL. People admired it when I parked it somewhere. So much that it got stolen.
~stacey #27
ouch. do you ride anymore?
~aschuth #28
Well, this cured me from buying any fancy stuff. My current bike - basically unmoved since I moved over here four years ago - is a 1960s mens bike, classic German touring style, which means it's worse that outdated. Our neighbors threw it away when they old Dad died. So I took it. Nobody would ever think of stealing this. Only bit of sophistication is the Sachs five-speed I fit to it. Even bought that used. Come to think of it, I have lots of things, most used, trashed up or in need or serious rebuilt. The perfect mirror of the owner... Junk with potential but no means.
~stacey #29
returned last night from a four day mountain biking vacation in Moab, Utah. Oh my, oh my! The trails to be had there! lots of rocks, lots of ledges! my lasting impressions are etched in my chin from the endo I took on Porcupine Rim trail Sunday evening! owwie! we camped Thurs, Fri and Sat nights but after the 25+ miles of riding Sunday we packed up the tent and checked into the Apache Motel! aaahhhh! a shower was mighty fine hey! where are all the bike riders???
~aschuth #30
Apache Motel maybe?
~stacey #31
there were quite a few there, yes.
~stacey #32
I bought new road shoes a couple of weeks ago -- my first pair. Rode in today on the road bike blah, blah, blah... anyone else take a bike ride lately?
~terry #33
No, been swimmin' lots. How's the chin?
~stacey #34
better thanks. I've been rubbing vitamin E on it for the past few days. Are you swimming at home or at the Springs?
~terry #35
At home, 90% of the time. I just installed a new filter in line with the Kreepie Kraulie called a "nature2" which cuts down chlorine by 80%, the waters so clean now a frog can live in the pool (we tested this). The waters been around 84 degrees so far this summer. I even have a networked computer by poolside now!
~stacey #36
chi chi! sounds like you're living the life!
~zx6rider #37
hi y'all! I'm back. So what... nobodies been on a bike since last June? Where is everybody. Austin is the home of Lance... surely there are some cyclists on the Spring.
~MarciaH #38
Someone posted 36 times before yours. They're out there waiting for someone to talk to, probably. Just like the train hoppers...
~sprin5 #39
I'm shopping for a bike, I hear you can get a decent trail bike for around $200 and I hear bikes with automatic shifters are going to become more commonplace. That appeals to me.
~zx6rider #40
I tide a TREK 1000, purchased in 1990. I didn't ride it much (read that hardly ever) because I was a runner. When running went down the crapper... and I finally came out of denial about it and stopped trying to run, I dusted the old steed off, got her tuned and tweaked at the local bike shop and last summer, started peddling. I've kept her stock, except for an AVOCET gel saddle and SpeedPlay clip-in peddles (really love them). Back in '90 this bike rolled out of the showroom for $400-500. Terry, the April issue of BICYCLING magazine was the 2000 buyers guide. I would recommend you get your hands on it. It reviews the top 4-5 bikes in each type. If you can't find in on the stands, you might be able to order back issues at the website http://www.bicycling.com Now I'm in training for the September Boston-NewYork AIDSRide. 275 miles in 3 days (Contributions would be gladly accepted. Email me offline if you are interested). As training progresses, I'll go from doing about 50 miles per week to doing 150 miles per week. Butt callouses, here I come :)
~sprin5 #41
I'll try and grab a copy of that. What's the date on your AIDSRide?
~zx6rider #42
The ride is Sept 15-17, 2000. Fundraising and training are in progress.
~MarciaH #43
Lance Armstrong Second in Tour De France Warm-Up PARIS (Reuters) - Lance Armstrong upped a gear in his preparations to defend his Tour de France title with second place in the Paris-Camembert classic on Tuesday. The US Postal rider finished six seconds behind Frenchman Didier Rous of the Bonjour team in the 129-mile race to Vimoutiers. Spain's Igor Flores of Euskaltel was third. Rous made a break 5 miles from the finish and ended with a time of four hours 43 minutes 17 seconds. Armstrong, who won the Tour de France last year after recovering from cancer, won the sprint in the chasing group. It was the first time the winner of the previous season's Tour de France had taken part in the race and Armstrong took advantage to show he was in good shape. ``He's physically fitter than (at the same time) last year,'' US Postal's sporting director Johan Bruyneel said. Armstrong's preparations for July's Tour include next month's Midi Libreand several other French races in June.
~zx6rider #44
Go Lance!!
~MarciaH #45
Yeah...that's what I thought! (No topic in Sports was appropriate - and he MUST be as fit as possible for him to be...)
~sprin5 #46
Go Lance, our Austin boy! Last time I was at BookStop at Central Market, Lance opened the door for me, didn't I tell you that story?
~zx6rider #47
No way! That's SO cool! I watched all the T de F stages I could last time. I was so proud of him. Now if we could just get an American long distance runner phenom...
~sprin5 #48
I was walking out of Bookstop and I was at least 20 feet away from the door and this guy was holding the door for me, as I walked by and he turned to walk away I noticed it was Lance. And I had been thinking "How considerate, this guy's opening the door for me and I'm not even close to it yet." I noticed he was a bit short.
~zx6rider #49
Yeah.. he's not a big guy at all. But cyclists aren't necessarily bulky. They're a pretty lean bunch. HUGE muscular butts though... like ballet dancers almost.
~sprin5 #50
He jumped in his car. I was wondering if he might have rode his bike.
~MarciaH #51
Way Cool, Terry! Do all of the good guys come from Austin??!! Rhetorical question - of course they do!
~sprin5 #52
But of course, all good guys come from Austin!
~MarciaH #53
More stuff about Lance on the web: Lance Armstrong OnLine - official site for information on his career and health. http://www.lancearmstrong.com/ Talk Cycling Interview with Lance - bike rider and a class act of a guy. http://www.cyclingnews.com/interviews/lance97.html TCRC Lance Armstrong Page http://www.acor.org/TCRC/lance.html
~MarciaH #54
I told you it was Rhetorical...*grin*
~zx6rider #55
O.k. boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen and anybody left over... some of you know me from my infrequent 'drop-ins' over the years, some of you wouldn't know me if I was standing right in front of you. Despite that I have something I'd like to tell you about... something I'm doing that I think is pretty incredible... something I need the Spring's help, your help, to do. I�m writing because in a few months, I�ll be participating in very powerful event to help fight the battle against AIDS. In September 2000, I�ll take three days out of my life to ride a bicycle 275 miles from Boston to New York with over 3,000 other people in an event called Boston-New York AIDSRide 6. We�re riding to raise money for the HIV/AIDS-related services of Fenway Community Health in Boston. We hope to raise more than $5 million for individuals living with AIDS, and important AIDS prevention programs. I�ve agreed to raise at least $1,700 in pledges between now and the beginning of the Ride on September 15th. I need your help. Would you please make a pledge to help me meet my goal? Please keep in mind how far I�m riding, the commitment I�ve made and how long I�ll have to train for this event. Between now and the date of the Ride, I will log 50 to 150 miles per week on my bicycle � I�m probably in the saddle right now! Make out a check, today if you can. Make it payable to "Boston-New York AIDSRide 6" and mail it to: Gena Ratcliff, 16 Balmoral St #111, Andover MA 01810. When I receive it, I will fill out a pledge form in your name and submit it with your check. Remember, all contributions are tax deductible. Thanks for listening... and thank you in advance for your generousity
~MarciaH #56
~MarciaH #57
Gena, post this on Porch and in http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/travel/26 where the most people will see it. It is a most worthy enterprise! You Go, Girl!
~zx6rider #58
I just sent terry an email asking him to do some Spring wizardry to copy it onto some other conferences... I'm not real good at this bbs stuff yet. I don't know how busy he is though. Can you help me out with that? You seem to be the holder of quite a magic wand.
~zx6rider #59
OK... I did it. I got it in Travel where you said and in Porch under Shameless self promotion (i didn't know where else to put it). Hope it's ok...
~MarciaH #60
Sounds exactly perfect - can't do better than that!
~MarciaH #61
Thanks about the Magic Wand comment, but it is really hard-learned lessons and not magic at all - excepting for those not knowing HTML programming and copy 'n' paste techinques!
~zx6rider #62
i took a little one day beginner HTML class... and I bought a book. I started a webpage of my own but never really figured out what I wanted to do with it. So it sits, neglected, on my hard drive... never published, alone and unfulfilled. Whoa... got carried away there!
~MarciaH #63
It is easy enough to get carried away by programming. It consumes entire days and weeks without so much as serving meals! Then there is Yapp software... *sigh* That's what we use here. We have learned to love it - or, at least to co-exist with it.
~MarciaH #64
The best thing you can do - and the easiest is to go to this url and print it out. I use it ALL the time to check on stuff I don't do frequently. http://www.austen.com/tutorial/
~sociolingo #65
Oh i wish you'd told me about this earlier, i've been floundering around for ages!!! (Yes, i know i've got too much to do to do new stuff right now, but I can't always study can I???)
~MarciaH #66
You did not ask me how I learned...I would have told you! (Actually, I did not think of it...)
~MarciaH #67
Home Page of AIDSride http://www.aidsride.org/home.asp NY Calendar http://www.gomachine.com/aidsride/calendar/nymonth.asp
~zx6rider #68
yep... got those! you're a regular research whirling dervish!
~MarciaH #69
That's me!
~zx6rider #70
Well, the sun is out for the moment, the tempo is a whopping 50 degrees... I'm off to meet some cycling buddies for a ride before the NewEngland weather gods realize they've allowed the rain to stop. It's been so long since I rode except on the trainer I fear it will be much like my first day without training wheels... hope I don't fall down and go BOOM. See y'all later.
~MarciaH #71
Wear knee pads so if worse comes to worse, it will not hurt as much nor look as embarrassing. 50� outside? Sheesh, water freezes at 55� in Hawaii. Watch out for the slippery spots! Check back in and let us know how you did!
~sprin5 #72
I looked at a new Schwinn ($350) at REI, any thoughts on this bike. Does anyone have any good urls of bike websites, particulary to descriptions of particular bikes that you like?
~zx6rider #73
I ride TREK. Unless I had the bucks for a custom build, I will buy TREK forever. And it was a TREK that Lance rode.... I find Schwinn to be expensive for what you get... and according to a bike shop owner of mine, they aren't the bike builders they once were.
~MarciaH #74
I can remember when Raleigh made the best bikes in the world. Are they still in business?
~zx6rider #75
Raleigh... yep, it's still around ( http://www.raleighusa.com/ ). And they do still make a good product. You see a couple of their bikes show up in buyers guides every so often. I don't think they are "best" anymore, but still good.
~sociolingo #76
House male swears by Claud Butler. We still have his 'original' in the shed! Mine's a common or garden chinese drop handle touring bike which has now been commandeered by daughter 2. High Wycombe is so hilly that I rarely venture out on a bike - it's too exhausting!
~zx6rider #77
peddle maggie, peddle... builds great legs and a fab butt ;-) especially hills. just spin those cranks!
~stacey #78
Is that the Schwinn Moab Paul? You know I am a Specialized girl myself... try out a few different frames first!
~sprin5 #79
I don't know what model, they had a bunch of them at REI, doesn't REI usually carry pretty good bikes?
~stacey #80
depends... up here they sell lots of Scott cycles (company out of Boulder)... REI doesn't actually make the bikes so everything depends on what brands they carry. Schwinn is a well respected name (once again) but the model of the bike matters in so far as what type of riding you're planning on doing.
~sprin5 #81
The Schwinn looks good and it's priced right ($350) and it's a dirt road hybrid I believe. I went to a site Gena recommended and got some suggestions. First you choose the brands you like (which I don't know anything about, comments?) Cannondale Cignal Diamondback Fuji Gary Fisher Giant Iron Horse KHS Mongoose Nishiki Norco Raleigh Schwinn Specialized Trek Then it generates a list. 1 1999 Trek Navigator 200 (Mountain Mix) (Trek) Score: 100% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 2 1999 Fuji Silhouette (Hybrid Mix) (Akisu) Score: 92% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $400 Compare With Another Bike 3 1999 Trek Navigator 300 (Mountain Mix) (Trek) Score: 87% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Aluminum Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $440 Compare With Another Bike 4 1999 Fuji Nevada (Mountain Mix) (RST 261, 2.5" travel) Score: 86% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type Front Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 5 1999 Fuji Palisade (Hybrid Mix) (Loyal Crown) Score: 84% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 6 1999 Fuji Cambridge (Hybrid Mix) (Loyal Crown) Score: 84% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Hi-Tensile Steel Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $250 Compare With Another Bike 7 1999 Gary Fisher Zebrano (Mountain Mix) (Fisher) Score: 74% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Aluminum Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $430 Compare With Another Bike 8 1999 Fuji Del Rey (Hybrid Mix) (Akisu) Score: 69% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $400 Compare With Another Bike 9 1999 Gary Fisher Gitchie Gumee (Mountain Mix) (Fisher) Score: 67% Bike Type Mountain Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $300 Compare With Another Bike 10 1999 Peugeot Horizon (Hybrid Mix) (Chien Sing) Score: 66% Bike Type Hybrid Tubing Material Chromoly Suspension Type No Suspension Price (MSRP) $430 Compare With Another Bike
~sprin5 #82
It's on this longwinded url that I did this exercise: http://www007.personalogic.aol.com/pl/system/pl.qanda;qwgyKrRUM80mZYdUTQhPivKBBTciKuUz56xQxBL1qssg8Ee5mt1WrurJUzvoMXH6z6T6I1an_YOmFEvf63leBSBIGV_YctZn7dB2j_DV2RmrOEdQT9lAVCcAfv8xIu0xNvSDhZo0wRZ0JwL5NQQbi2eD96$jNDC3K3zqrJZn$VemNETcGG0CAvVB77uTTyXQa4L .
~sprin5 #83
I may run by a couple of bike stores today and see if they stock this one. Want to see a really cool (but beyond my budget) bike? It's the Lance Armstrong Special Edition.
~zx6rider #84
yeah... ain't that one SWEET! I think the fram runs 2K, then if you outfit it with the components Lance uses you can get that price up around 6K (I think). I also like the 'Y' frame bikes. They have no seat tube... very cool looking and supposedly very fast.
~MarciaH #85
Terry, you gonna get the brain bucket and padding which is mandatory for such high tech gear?! Bike is Way too cool to be dodging traffic! There is something I really don't like abut riding around on something costing 6K and still getting rained on and mud flung onto me!
~sprin5 #86
Like I say, that's just a picture for dreamers. I'm looking in the under $450 range which is why the $300 Trek came up.
~zx6rider #87
TREK makes a great bike Terry... I'd go with the TREK. But as Miz Marcia suggests, get a brain bucket to go with it, and maybe some toe clips (since its an offroad I wouldn't go clipins).
~sprin5 #88
Good idea, to keep your head and feet intact. I haven't gone yet, a bunch of other stuff came up.
~stacey #89
I've been in clipless pedals on my MTB for four years now... there is no problem clipping out when you need to and the attachment when I'm riding helps my agility and technical abilities on the bike. The bike moves WITH you and where you'd like it to. Bunny hops are a breeze and hill climbing is MUCH easier when you are attached! Paul, while $300 is no vast sum, you should at least try some other frames. TREK cycles do not suit my build as well as Specialized (and Gary Fisher) frames do. KONA is a notorious "taller person's" frame... check that one out too. Also, if you find a frame that suits you almost perfectly you can always change out a stem or seat post to get that truly perfect fit. I want you to be as comfy as possible so you use it! BTW, I'm in SA right now. Be in Austin tomorrow a.m. perhaps I'll have time to hit Bicycle Sport with you this week. GREAT call Marcia on the lid... Always ride with that head protection!! Hope the training is going well Gena!
~sprin5 #90
That would be great Stacey, hope to hook up with you tomorrow when you arrive in the Austin area. If you want to save on motel bills, you're welcome to stay at the guest room at the Quail house if you like.
~MarciaH #91
Did you see Stacey??? No wonder Spring went down..........*sigh*
~terry #92
Jim Birrell, race director for Tour of Georgia and the newly formed Tour of California, will be on Active Radio Wednesday, August 24, at 12pm (PDT), to discuss the ins and outs of directing cycling events. http://www.active.com/active/
~terry #93
Jim Birrell, and his partner, Chris Aronhalt, formed Medalist Sports in July 2004 to focus on marketing and directing premier cycling events. Birrell and Aronhalt have directed the Tour de Georgia since its inception in 2003 and are now spearheading the direction of the inaugural Tour of California slated for February 2006. With extensive backgrounds, both Jim Birrell and Chris Aronhalt have contributed to the successful execution of several national and international sporting events. Jim Birrell began his sports marketing career with the Tour of Texas, a multi-day professional cycling event in the early and mid 1980s. Building upon this experience in cycling, Birrell contributed to the management and growth of the Coors Classic, the largest and longest professional cycling event of its time in the United States.
~terry #94
Why go by bicycle? 15 good reasons..... 1. Remember when you first learned to ride a bike? Think back for a second. It's just as much fun now as it was then. 2. The bicycle is the most efficient form of transportation ever invented. 3. Half of all transit in the United States is six miles or less round trip, a distance easily made on a bicycle. 4. If you see someone you know while riding, it's easy to stop and say hello. Bicycles create public space, enhance street life and build a sense of community. 5. Ever go for a nice evening stroll down a busy street? Nope, too noisy. The occasional bicycle bell is nothing compared to the constant cacophony of car traffic. 6. There are no parking problems for bicyclists, nor are there parking fees or tickets. Lock your bike to parking meters rather than putting quarters in them. In the space one car takes up, twelve or more bicycles can be parked, which solves parking problems in densely-populated areas. 7. Americans spend 15 to 20 percent of their income on cars. If you ride a bike, not only can you skip car payments, but you can also skip insurance payments, maintenance, dmv stuff and stopping to pay for gas. Carsharing for occasional driving is becoming a more and more reasonable alternative. (A good new bicycle can cost as low as $250. No dmv, no insurance, no gas, very little maintenance.) 8. Millions of Americans want to lose weight, and yet they step into cars everyday, passing up the opportunity to exercise. In addition to weight loss, bicycling reduces the risk of heart attacks, strokes, diabetes and high blood pressure. Given the abysmal state of health care in the United States (which is partially due to the cost of treating well over 2 million car accident victims each year), self-prescribed preventative activity is a wise decision. 9. If you stand in a closed garage with a running car, you will die in a matter of minutes. Hundreds of thousands of cars in our cities create dirty, unhealthy air. 10. Terrorist organizations use our gas money. In order to protect political and corporate interests, the United States supports dictatorial regimes in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, which is the number one producer of oil in the world. 15 of the 19 September hijackers were Saudi. Iraq is the second largest producer of oil, and Kuwait the third. Do those countries sound familiar? The government supported Saddam through his worst atrocities, then Saddam began to disobey U.S. orders. That is precisely when he became our enemy. 11. In 2001, more than 3,000 Americans died of terrorism on our own home soil. In 2001, more than 43,000 Americans died in car crashes on our own home soil, and about 2,200,000 suffered disabling injuries. The American death toll of the Vietnam War, which lasted several years, is about 50,000. 12. States, counties and cities spend billions of dollars fixing roads that cars damage. A Honda Civic, a compact car, weighs about 2,500 pounds. That's about 100 times more than the average bicycle. A typical SUV weighs much more than a Civic, and does more damage to roads. Wear and tear on roads from bicycles is almost nonexistent. 13. Experts estimate that easily accessible oil (in other words, cheap oil) will run out around the year 2010. After cheap oil runs out, the price of gas will shoot up. The economic ramifications of this suggest that the sooner we accommodate oil free transportation into our daily lives the better. 14. Watch any tv show, listen to any radio program, look through any magazine or newspaper and you will come across ads showing how cars will make you cool, sexy, popular, respected, at one with nature, safe, etc. The car and oil industries spend billions of dollars each year to promote a benign image of driving, but the function of all this is to assure profits and manipulate consumers, and nothing more. 15. Staying closer to home to shop and do errands builds communication among residents, which promotes autonomy. This in turn leads to political, social and economic self-determination within communities. City hall ends up truly serving the needs of the residents because residents can tell city hall exactly what they want rather than city hall guessing at what they think would be best for the residents. Besides all this, if you factor in all the costs of driving to mega-warehouses, you end up paying more anyway. So try it. Go by bicycle. (Nowhere does this site intend to imply that bicycles are best for all travel. Sometimes the bicycle is impractical. However, this site does assert that drivers who decide to get on a bike or public transportation whenever possible rather than getting in a car will make the city a better place to live.) http://www.gobybicycle.com/
~terry #95
My bike ride today http://tinyurl.com/9q5sn I found this cool app to figure out route distances today at http://www.webwalking.com/googlemap.htm It lets you draw your route on a google map and then it calculates the distance for you and saves the map. This was a nice ride, except the portion along Highway 71 and Highway 20 where the cars were going 70 mph in a 55 mph zone.
~cfadm #96
Today I just did a few miles of cross country.
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