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Topic 11 · 164 responses · archived october 2000
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~terry seed
What are your favorite beers?
~terry #1
I give Bosque Porter a B. I'm doing a beer tasting test. I'm trying out one new beer every night. This stuff comes out of Waco, Texas. You'd never expect. Kind of sweet.
~KitchenManager #2
Ah, beer! Pete's Wicked Ale, Guiness Stout, Red Hook ESB, Sam Adams Double and Triple Bocks, Blackened Voodoo, and Anchor Porter. There's more, but these are the tops of my list. WER
~terry #3
I like Guiness a lot. There's nothing else like it, at least that I've tried.
~stacey #4
Love beer... Bass Ale, Pete's Wicked, Killian's Colorado beers... Great Divide, Trout (Fairplay, CO), Boulder Ale Texas beers... Nothing beats a Shiner!
~terry #5
Ya got that right. Especially their bock beer.
~nancyw #6
The type of beer depends on the food. And the time of day. Some of the dark beers almost feel/taste like dessert to me. SOme of my friends haul me out to local breweries (get a life, they say) and pour the good stuff in to me. I can handle about 1/2 a glass. Lots of the micropubs are starting to have good food, which is a saving grace for me.
~terry #7
Like dessert you say? As in four pieces of chocolate?
~nancyw #8
No, I do have a broader repetoire than just chocolate. I like food of almost every stripe, including non-chocolate liquids. I mean dark, foamy beer.
~terry #9
I share your liking for dark beers. What are some of your favorite brands? How about Guiness Stout?
~nancyw #10
Brands? Whatever my friends pick out! That's why I always pick friends with good taste. And usually I buy a local beer or something new to try. Thus no memory. I just like em!
~terry #11
Celis is a great Austin brand. And of course Shiners. But I already mentioned Shiners. Ever tried it?
~nancyw #12
Can't say that I've ever even heard of it. But I lead a sheltered life...
~terry #13
It's like our best regional beer, what's the best regional brew in your neck of the woods?
~nancyw #14
I know you are really trying to show how little brains I have left. Lets see, I'm asking my staff... Redhook, Big Time, and then we all have blank looks on our faces. Maybe we drank too much beer in earlier years. Ei!
~terry #15
So it's Redhook? What's that like?
~nancyw #16
Milking a dead horse here. Its beer. I know thats blasphemy, but I am not a beer knowledgable person. IT tastes good! What can I say. Now if I were to comment on chocolate..... there's another story. I confess, I am a beer ignoramus!
~terry #17
Are there any chocolate beers?
~stacey #18
Hola! How about your favorite cheap beer?!?! Let's hear it for Black Label, Hamm's and Pig's Eye Red! Hey guys, it's that Colorado girl from Texas loggin' in again via the Denver Public Library... Breakin the law, breakin the law! Miss you all, miss Austin but having a grooving time living in the shadow of the Rocky Mountains!
~terry #19
I'll go with Redeye, haven't tried the other two. How is the wonder woman doing? I, for one, miss your boundless energy around Austin. It sure was great when you were around. Are you doing much bicycling, rollerblading etc? The Austin libraries have lots of free net access these days. I wonder if your "website" is still up, I'll have to take a look. Is the library your only access?
~stacey #20
Not anymore! I'm ethernet babe now! I'm connected at school FINALLY! The T-1 connection really spoiled me at MR. Ahh, but that has little to do with food, now. No beer last night, a couple of glasses of Merlot though.
~terry #21
Actually, you were just an isdn babe back then. I developed a liking for Merlet a while back. What kind of connection do you have at school now?
~stacey #22
a slow one.
~terry #23
What? A dial up modem? Are you springing by telnet or over the web?
~stacey #24
telnet But on the topic of beer... *smile* Fat Tire. Yum.
~terry #25
What beer do you recommend I pick up for this weekend?
~stacey #26
first I gots ta know what you're doing.
~terry #27
Partying. Relaxing.
~stacey #28
Bad Dog Ale... is that the one? You know,the one with the Hunter S. Thompson quotes.
~terry #29
Have you ever tried Pilsner Uraquel? Guiness Strout? What do you think of these?
~stacey #30
yes. and yes. The first one I loved. The black, tarry one, not so great. Although I had it in England where the tradition is to drink in at room temp!
~terry #31
I've heard that, I like both of these. Based on that, what else would you recommend that I try?
~stacey #32
Alimony Ale!!
~terry #33
For real?
~stacey #34
Yep. It's a darker than amber ale with all kinds of crazy flavors. NOT fruity More spice. Nutmeg maybe. I don't know if Texas has it or not but Boulder Amber Ale and Trout Ale are both good ones too. They're brewed in CO, the whole "Rocky Mountain water" thing.
~terry #35
Celis is pretty popular around Austin, and they have some interesting flavors.
~stacey #36
I had a cold Guiness last night. Watched the cascade and everything. It was yum... much better cold!
~terry #37
Makes me want to have a beer, but no beer in the fridge right now, and I'm home for the day. In 30 seconds the space shuttle lands. . . . . . . . Main gear touchdown. Nose gear touchdown. Another good landing at Edwards AFB. I guess you were here too late, but they have opened a lot of microbreweries around Austin. The Copper Tank, etc.
~stacey #38
The Copper Tank's been around for awhile -- 3 years. Been there, liked that. Actually I prefered it before the restaurant. I also had been to the Armadillo but I know that's shut down. Thre were a couple more when I last talked to Austin ites... Thanks for the shuttle commentary!
~terry #39
Sure, they were saying that on the radio while I was typing. Cedar Street is actually what I was trying to think of, they had a real cool gathering there recently put on by the MAIN folks (who are putting public internet terminals in the libraries around Austin). Did you ever make it there?
~stacey #40
I made it there but I didn't know it was a microbrewery.
~stacey #41
Last night I had a Red Hook. Decent beer. I'm still reeling over how much I enjoyed the Guiness this time. Refrigeration makes a HUGE difference. In Estes Park they have the Estes Park brewery -- good microbrews that have recently started in a broader market. The Wynkoop in downtown Denver also makes a couple really good micros -- Railyard Ale is one of my faves. But every month they tap a specialty brew. Last year they tapped one in honor of Kurt Vonnegut.
~terry #42
Does Guiness make other beers besides Stout, I seem to vaguely recall even seeing a near beer made by Guiness.
~stacey #43
In a green can?
~terry #44
I don't remember what kind of can. Strangely, I drank a near beer the other night and felt a buzz from it. It was Heineken's Near Beer, called Klausthauler or something.
~KitchenManager #45
I know I'm interrupting and all, but my favorites (all dark) are: Samuel Adam's Double Bock Guiness Stout Red Hook ESB Pete's Wicked Ale Anchor Porter Blackened VooDoo Red Hook's porter with the Starbuck's coffee in it WER
~terry #46
Any particular flavor of Starbuck's coffee? How would you arrange these on a scale of bitter to sweet?
~KitchenManager #47
Actually, I don't know which they use to brew it with, I just remember it's Starbucks. And there really isn't a sweet one one the list. I usually don't prefer my darks sweet, although the occasional black and tan hits the spot! WER
~stacey #48
It was a cheap beer weekend! Black label and Red Dog!
~terry #49
Beer brewed with coffee, what do you think Stacey?
~stacey #50
Sounds like two of my biggest vices in one fell swoop! I like the idea.
~terry #51
Will you try one and get back to us?
~stacey #52
will do
~terry #53
Oh good, Stacey's our canary in the mineshaft for coffee brewed beer.
~stacey #54
I seem to be everyone's canary -- the fumes at MR?!?!
~stacey #55
Had Pets's Oktober fest and a Twisted Pine amber (local) last night. The Twisted pine was kinda yeasty but really good and darker than most ambers.
~KitchenManager #56
Ambers are good, yeasty isn't. Oktoberfests are good, also. Decent beer tastes, stacey!. WER
~stacey #57
Why thank you sir! I also volunteer my taste-testing services in this area!
~KitchenManager #58
Well, that's two, what are the others? WER
~terry #59
George Gale is a founding member of the Independent Family Brewers of Britain. The ale won a gold medal this year. For more details: http://www.troth.demon.co.uk/pages/beers.html.
~stacey #60
Other taste testing services...??? *smile*
~terry #61
What do you all think of Belgian brewed beers vs. beers brewed with Belgian methods in the US?
~KitchenManager #62
stacey--yes(can e-mail me your answer if you'd prefer) terry--Can't say that I like either. Too yeasty, at least all that I have tried. I prefer German, Irish, and Australlian, outside of my favorite American, and Swiss Lowenbrau is pretty good, especially the dark. WER
~stacey #63
My, my this is becoming quite the inuendo conference... I like it!
~KitchenManager #64
Inuendo, conferencing, or onlookers? Back to Belgium: I forgot about Duvel, I think its Belgian, and some lambics, especially Faro Pertotale Ale. WER
~terry #65
Discovered on the most happening beer joints in Austin, it's called Fado. It's and Irish pub and they have great Guiness Stout on tap. I went there Friday for dinner and had fish and chips (very good) with some Stout. I met some folks for the first time and we had a blast. One of the guys was a former ranked tennis pro who needed a website (guess who might be building it?) and there were some women from SWT who were partyin' like it was 1999. Fado is sandwiched in between the Cedar Street jazz joint and a coffeehouse on Fourth Street.
~stacey #66
sounds yummy! The joint, not the partyers! *grin*
~terry #67
Glad you qualified that, in case we misinterpreted you. What was your favorite beer joint around Austin? Have you ever been to the Draught Horse?
~stacey #68
Fave beer joint would have to be all those with outdoor patios... Dog&Duck, Crown and Anchor, (shoot) what was the one by crown and anchor? I thought the Draught Horse was a bit overpriced and most of the microbrew places (ie. the Bitter End) a bit pretentious.
~terry #69
I've never been to Draught Horse, just heard about it. There's a place downtown that has beer and movies, what's it called? It's around the corner from Fados.
~stacey #70
Dunno? What KIND of movies?
~KitchenManager #71
Down, girl, down. WER ps--no offense = )
~stacey #72
A serious question (yeah right!) If he were referring to one of the comedy places vs. a dramatic movie screen... it might jog my memory.
~KitchenManager #73
I think he's referring to a place where you can have dinner, a beer, and watch a movie, a restaurant/cinema kinda place. WER
~terry #74
Yeah, that's it, but the name escapes me.
~stacey #75
The Cinema Grill?
~terry #76
Nope, somethin' else.
~stacey #77
Vittles N' Video?
~terry #78
Nope, you're getting colder.
~stacey #79
Raucous Reels?
~terry #80
Not there yet.
~stacey #81
Movies N' Mai Tai's?
~terry #82
Great name but no banana.
~stacey #83
Cider and Slapstick?
~terry #84
Nope, another cool name though. Try again. This is fun.
~stacey #85
Drama on Draught?
~terry #86
Nyetski.
~stacey #87
Action/Adventure Ale House?
~terry #88
Not.
~stacey #89
Shows N Suds?
~terry #90
Not Shows 'n Suds, but that's one of the best names you've come up with.
~stacey #91
Now how am I supposed to come up with another fictional name with that kind of pressure on me, huh? You know it would be my nature (and habit) to come up with something better than the best I've already created... oh the pressure...
~terry #92
Alls the same in love and naming movie/beer joints.
~stacey #93
Bellylaughs N' Beverages?
~terry #94
*** giggle *** but no.
~KitchenManager #95
stacey, when you're tired, let me know I finally looked up the answer WER
~stacey #96
Ttttt...iiii...rrrrr.eeee....ddddd.... and fading!
~KitchenManager #97
Alamo Drafthouse Theater WER
~stacey #98
not nearly as catchy as any of mine, but thanks for the reprieve!
~terry #99
I like Stacedouts names much better!
~KitchenManager #100
Me, too... WER
~stacey #101
This weekend's fare: Killian's Red, Old Scratch Ale and Red Wolf (Sunday's desperate attempt to get some beer- liquor stores are all closed on the Sabbath)
~terry #102
Too much beer for me Fri night at Leightons mega party. Check out the videoslides running on our http://www.spring.com main page.
~terry #103
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~stacey #104
I went to that 2 years ago -- what a blast!
~terry #105
Well you can have a virtual blast and drink some vitual beer because I have twh hours of video slides running on our front page at http://www.spring.com Lot of brewpub suds! It was a gorgeous day in Austin and most folks seemed to be in a great mood with their mugs in hand and some pretty decent bands playing. No soundtrack yet, but we're working on a real audio solution to bring you the sounds of these events that we've been videotaping. I had a very peaceful morning, took a long walk, had a great lunch, and capped it off with fish 'n chips, a beer (of course), and a brandy soaked mini-cigar. One of my periodic vice ridden forays into debauchery. Luckenbach beer, Shiner, Celis, the Texas Brewers Fest had 'em all. You can see Mezzaluna in the background. and some of the Austin skyline.
~stacey #106
Ever had Iron City beer? Save it for Bad Beer Night!
~terry #107
Ever heard of Iron Chief?
~stacey #108
nnope.
~terry #109
It's a tv show or something, causing a big stir. Any, what a digression.
~stacey #110
another of our strong points!
~KitchenManager #111
Are we back on your hips again?
~terry #112
She's hip.
~stacey #113
we could be, WER and of course I am, Paul
~KitchenManager #114
What would it take to get there?
~stacey #115
Refresh me again... where are you trying to get? Besides in my pants! *giggle*
~KitchenManager #116
For one, I don't think that I would fit in your pants... We were talking about being on your hips again, or could be.
~stacey #117
My hips aren't THAT big -- for everyone to get on. NOw my inner thighs... there's a good area.
~terry #118
Inner thighs are good.
~stacey #119
Tell us all about it Paul!
~terry #120
Everything? Mine or yours?
~stacey #121
Whoa! Lookit you, jumping into the fray!
~KitchenManager #122
Anyway...here's one in trib to you today, my innuendo wielding birthday girl! *pop* *gulp* *ahhh...* (this used to be a fun topic afore we met and all...*sigh*)
~stacey #123
22 oz. of Breckenridge brew at the birthday dinner for me! (someone is in a rather dark mood!)
~KitchenManager #124
Nah, not really, just making my own warped observations... Don't recognize Breckenridge, what's it like?
~stacey #125
micro brew from Breckenridge Brewery in CO. Amber, full NOT nutty (which seems to be a trend around here)
~autumn #126
Don't know if this stacks up, but I had a Rolling Rock in Fells Point last night...(Baltimore neighborhood where "Homicide" is filmed)
~stacey #127
rolling rock does NOT stack up! *smile*
~autumn #128
Can't blame me for tryin'! (*wink*)
~stacey #129
speaking of beer... thanks for the card WER!
~KitchenManager #130
You're welcome.
~KitchenManager #131
yeah, and where was mine? The coffee beer is out again, it's Red Hook Double Black Stout. That's right, kids, a stout beer brewed with Starbucks coffee... (just typing the words makes my mouth water!)
~riette #132
BIG YUK!
~autumn #133
Stout, blah! I'll just have the coffee.
~riette #134
ha-ha!!! Do you get nice . . . eh . . . beer CANS in America. Ones that you could almost FRAME?
~KitchenManager #135
yeah, but beer in cans suck... and again, what colors do you need?
~riette #136
Different blues for sky, water and the different shades of blues to be found there. Yellow. Orange. Purple or pink. cans with interesting patterns on them. Funny, always hate bottles, because it sucks up the bubbles.
~KitchenManager #137
okay, gonna send you a sample pack of the colors so you can tell me which ones you like the best...then I'll start drinking like mad!
~KitchenManager #138
how many do you need, and by when? I'm down for Pepsi (blue) RC (blue) Cherry Coke (cool red and black geometrics) Mountain Dew (green) and a yellow and a purple, just not sure which yet...
~riette #139
Cool!!! Just send'em as you drink'em - I can wait. I've got it planned in a way that I can work in different parts of the picture at a time, and it should all come together in the end - hopefully. But I can improvise if necessary. The Cherry Coke can sounds particularly interesting - be sure to send that one. And the blue ones defenitely - so far I've only been able to find two types of shiny blue - I need shiny and not shiny blues and greens. Now, start DRINKING! Geez, hope I don't turn people into alcoholics with this strange request!!
~terry #140
I visited a man once who built his whole house out of different colored glass bottles. And the house was mostly underground, excpet the ceiling which was like a stained glass window. He polished all the bottoms of the bottles which made up his walls. It only took a few tiny sticks to heat the place in his miniscule fireplace. On the surface was a greenhouse. This was on a trip to a hot springs in Mendocino county.
~riette #141
OH, WOW!!! I wish I could have seen it! I would LOVE to love in a bottle house like that.
~terry #142
If I ever make it back there to those hot springs in Mendocino I'll take a video if the old man will let me. Provided it's still there and he's still alive.
~riette #143
Please do - I'm sure it's really something.
~terry #144
OK, remind me next time I say I'm going to California, which I do a couple of times a year.
~riette #145
I am hanging on to your fingers, waiting for that day, babe!
~terry #146
Did ya hear that, she called me babe. Cool.
~riette #147
I got you . . .
~TIM #148
When I used to drink: Pschorr Brau Dark, Heineken Dark, Guiness Extra Stout, Grolsch, Dos Equis, Andeker, Miller Genuine Draft.
~KitchenManager #149
Redhook Ale went an extra mile recently. The craft brewery received kosher certification from the Orthodox Union (OU), which oversees thousands of products for certification around the world. Why did Redhook with its nine branded beers seek it? Kosher certification signals to consumers that a product adheres to guidelines of quality, purity and use of natural products, says Nelson Jay, marketing manager of Redhook Brewery. Many non-Jewish consumers know kosher products contain fewer preservatives and additives and adhere to stringent manufacturing standards.
~autumn #150
Most of the products from my organic/health food co-op have kosher certification. I've always been puzzled by the kosher toothpaste, lollipops and soy sauce, etc., but I guess it's a purity thang.
~KitchenManager #151
yep, those non-kosher pork-n-catfish lollipops would scare me more, I think...
~autumn #152
heh-heh!
~KitchenManager #153
Hey, Stace!!! Have you had Fat Tire Amber? If so, how would you rate it in the overall beer scheme of things?
~aschuth #154
I would certainly not feel up to drinking something with a name like that. Reeks of burnt tires and motoroil, right?
~KitchenManager #155
not the sample that I tried...
~aschuth #156
Had a cold, eh?
~KitchenManager #157
too cold...
~MarciaH #158
Aaaah a subject on which I have absolutely no expertise. I am a cork sniffer and under the table at that!
~MarciaH #159
It's True, Beer Is Good For You! Hops Used For Beer Is An Anti-Bacterial Agent Learn More About On Your Side CLEVELAND, Posted 1:56 p.m. September 28, 1999 -- It could be the best words a beer drinker has heard since 'open bar.' Is beer good for you? NewsChannel5 reports one scientist says the hops that make up beer are. A Miller Brewing Company scientist has patented the use of acid hops as an anti-bacterial agent. Miller is even negotiating with a number of companies to use the hops as a germ killer. The researcher says it could be used in everything from toothpaste and mouthwash to preservatives in hot dogs. But there's no word if gargling with beer has the same effect. Copyright 1999 by NewsNet5. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
~MarciaH #160
Good health! Brewers toast study on beer http://www.themercury.com.au/nie/mathguys/articles/1996/960612a1.htm PEOPLE who drink beer in moderation live longer and are less likely to have heart problems, according to a review of research on the links between alcohol and health. There is a widespread view that moderate consumption of wine, not of beer, is good for the heart. But the authors of the review say they found strong evidence that consumption of any alcoholic beverage was linked to a lower risk of heart disease. The Australian Brewers' Foundation medical research advisory committee has reviewed about 30 published research papers from around the world on the link between alcohol and heart disease. "Beer can be regarded as the drink of moderation be cause it has half the alcohol content of wine," the chairman of the Brewers' Foundation medical research advisory committee, Professor Ross Kalucy, said. "There is now an overwhelming consensus of medical opinion that moderate alcohol intake is protective against heart disease in both men and women." Consumption of no more than four glasses of beer a day for men, and two for women, is considered moderate. Professor Kalucy, professor of psychiatry at Flinders University, said it had been shown that moderate drinkers lived longer than people who did not drink at all. Alcohol is known to boost a substance in the blood, known as higher density lipoprotein which protects blood vessels against clotting and the buildup of plaque on artery walls due to cholesterol. It was for this reason moderate consumption of alcohol was good for cardiac health, he said. Brewers' Foundation chairman Professor Kwong Lee Dow said in a statement that this did not mean, however that abstainers should be encouraged to take up drinking. "Health authorities and educators need to acknowledge the role of alcohol in our society and develop policies that minimise the potential physical, social and emotional harms that result from its use," he said. AAP
~MarciaH #161
Cheery, Beer-y Kidneys Those who have suffered the excruciating pain of kidney stones usually ask themselves what they could have done differently. Pirjo Pietinen and her colleagues in Finland now think they have an answer: Drink beer. As part of an ongoing lung-cancer prevention study, Pietinen�s group collected detailed dietary information from their 27,000 male volunteers. All were smokers between the ages of 50 and 69. Within about 6 years of entering the study, 329 of the participants developed kidney stones. Ordinarily, physicians advise people at high risk of recurring stones to drink plenty of liquids, especially water. Diluting the urine seems to slow the buildup of the stony calcium deposits that cause pain. However, all liquids are not equally beneficial. Studies have indicated that while coffee, tea, and alcohol tend to reduce an individual�s risk of forming kidney stones, grapefruit and apple juices both foster stone production. At least one study also indicated that soft-drink consumption might cultivate stones. In these Finnish men, however, the researchers found no clear protection associated with water consumption. Then again, Pietinen notes, "our measure of total water was not as good as it should be, because the questionnaire we used didn�t ask about water drunk as such." Rather, they calculated water intake based upon its usual contribution to other foods�such as soup or tea. Though asking questions directly about water consumption might seem an essential first step in any study of kidney stones, Pietinen points out that this was actually a re-crunching of numbers collected as part of a lung-cancer study. This also explains why her group restricted participation to individuals who smoked. Unlike other studies, the Finnish scientists found no statistically significant link between alcohol consumption and kidney-stone risk. "What�s interesting in our data," Pietinen told Science News Online, "was that beer seemed to have a specific effect all its own." ....more at http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/9_18_99/food.htm
~MarciaH #162
See what kind of friend I am? You needed excuses to visit the Pub? I gave you a bunch of them. Okole maluna!
~sociolingo #163
Well, I did have a half pint of lager down at the bowling alley, didn't improve my score though!!!
~MarciaH #164
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