Food that shouldn&#x27;t be &mdash; Food &mdash; The Spring BBS Archive

~KitchenManager Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (00:41) seed

What exists as "food" that should have never been considered as such...

~KitchenManager Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (00:43) #1

Potted meat food product and pasteurized, processed American cheese food product

~terry Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (10:09) #2

Are talking spam William?

~KitchenManager Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (10:28) #3

Some could be... Otherwise, Vienna sausage should not be considered food, either.

~autumn Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (18:14) #4

Cottonseed oil. I don't eat cotton, so why would I consume one of its by-products?

~stacey Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (01:02) #5

amen!

~KitchenManager Thu, May 14, 1998 (00:27) #6

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A food fight between consumer groups and Proctor and Gamble Co. over the labeling of snack foods made with a fat substitute goes before the Food and Drug Administration next month, the FDA said Tuesday. It said it would hold a public meeting to review new medical studies about complaints that Olestra, a food additive made by the company, causes cramps and mild diarrhea in a small number of consumers. The fat substitute was launched last month in a variety of U.S. chips and salty snack foods. Proctor and Gamble, which spent some $500 million to develop the food additive, wants the FDA to relax its requirement that foods with the additive must carry a warning label about possible digestive effects and nutrient loss. Olestra gives foods the taste derived from fat, but the substance is not absorbed by the body. The Center for Science in the Public Interest claimed its study of 2,000 consumers showed Olestra caused abdominal cramping and mild diarrhea. It opened a toll-free telephone line for consumers to report adverse effects. The company maintains that its studies show the rate of gastrointestinal problems is the same for consumers who eat chips made with or without Olestra. It is also asking the FDA for permission to use Olestra in other foods such as ice cream, onion rings and cooking oil, which would open up huge new markets. The FDA's food advisory committee said it would meet June 15-16 for scientists to review new gastrointestinal studies from Proctor and Gamble and others. The panel will consider the agency's earlier finding that the additive is safe, and will make recommendations on food labeling requirements. P&G has said it expects the food additive to generate sales of $400 million by 2000.

~stacey Thu, May 14, 1998 (17:52) #7

In a recent report published in the Westword (Colorado's equivalent of the Chronicle) Olestra sideeffects were given such appropo names as 'anal seepage' and 'fecal emergency' sounds just yummy, eh?!?!

~autumn Thu, May 14, 1998 (20:10) #8

You don't say? Pass the chips... :-)

~CotC Sat, May 16, 1998 (11:56) #9

From personal experience, flatulence of biblical proportions... But, re the Topic: Chicken Fried Scrambled Eggs.

~KitchenManager Sat, May 16, 1998 (14:03) #10

gotta agree with you on that one

~autumn Sun, May 17, 1998 (23:40) #11

What the hell is that? Cracklins.

~CotC Mon, May 18, 1998 (13:06) #12

Mmmmmmm!... craklins! Orange Jell-o with shredded carots on top of it. Black Pudding. Coconut. Snails. Okra in any form. Peas. Oysters/liver (much the same thing, really)

~stacey Mon, May 18, 1998 (18:18) #13

I love oysters... smoked, fried, raw... yummy! There is a Thai black pudding that is actually reddish black grains that are sweet and puff up like tapioca... not bad at all!

~KitchenManager Wed, May 20, 1998 (00:46) #14

Thomas meant blood pudding, btw (in case you didn't know *wink*) Autumn- Chicken fried scrambled eggs are scrambled egg patties that have beed breaded and deep fried...

~autumn Thu, May 21, 1998 (22:06) #15

I think I'm gonna puke (then all I'll be able to keep down is orange jello w/carrot strips on top) Oysters are ambrosia around here...they have been over-harvested from the Chesapeake for so long that there are limits on the catch. Raw w/cocktail sauce--slurp!

~CotC Mon, Jun 1, 1998 (16:24) #16

They still jus' ain't nuthin' like a BIG bowl of cold oatmeal with lard on it...:-)

~riette Mon, Jun 1, 1998 (17:10) #17

Tell me, Thomas H. Smith, what does the Rev. in front of your name refer to . . . a higher kind of profession, or an abbreviation to do with taste in food . . . like, say rev-olting?! Having said that, when I'm depressed I live on melted cheese, ketchup and golden syrup sandwiches.

~autumn Mon, Jun 1, 1998 (22:38) #18

Here it comes again...

~riette Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (02:18) #19

What? You being attacked by a lettuce?

~autumn Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (10:29) #20

(*spew* *barf* *technicolor yawn*)

~CotC Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (13:18) #21

The Rev. indicates my DD in Neuro-husbandry. :-)

~riette Tue, Jun 2, 1998 (13:54) #22

Your DD? You mean your Deaf Dumbness in Neuro-husbandry?!?! How weird . . .

~KitchenManager Wed, Jun 3, 1998 (15:50) #23

actually, the weird hasn't got here yet...

~stacey Wed, Jun 3, 1998 (16:10) #24

huh???

~CotC Tue, Jun 9, 1998 (12:26) #25

My Defensive Drollness...

~riette Tue, Jun 9, 1998 (14:23) #26

Oh. Well, that's not so bad then, is it?

~KitchenManager Thu, Jun 11, 1998 (12:15) #27

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Citing possible severe side effects and risk of cancer, a food watchdog group pressed the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday to either pull the fat substitute, olestra, from the market or require more prominent, strongly worded labels about potential problems. The nonprofit Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) marshaled scientists and unhappy consumers for a Washington news conference, getting a jump on FDA meetings next week to review the product. The CSPI also filed petitions with the Federal Trade Commission, charging that olestra advertising misleads because it doesn't disclose side effects. Olestra, sold as the brand Olean, is a synthetic chemical made of sugar and vegetable oil that passes through the body undigested. Labels on foods made with olestra say the zero-calorie fake fat can cause unpleasant gastrointestinal effects, including cramps and diarrhea, and can block absorption of certain nutrients. But CSPI says those warnings aren't enough. Citing a handful of consumers who sought emergency-room treatment for those effects, CSPI said olestra is a "gamble with health." Regina McGrath of Hannastown, Pennsylvania, said that after eating a dozen potato chips, she went to a hospital emergency room where doctors gave her intravenous morphine for pain that was "worse than childbirth." The FTC had no comment. Manufacturer defends its product Manufacturer Procter & Gamble and Frito-Lay, which makes olestra-laden WOW! chips, vigorously defended olestra. Proctor and Gamble spokesman Bryan McCleary said tens of millions of people have consumed foods made with olestra since it came on the market in 1996, with relatively few complaints about digestive side effects. "This is a safe product; it's fully approved by the FDA," he said. Tens of millions of people have eaten over 500 million servings of olestra-made chips, the companies said. Only about one in 50,000 people report any complaint, and the vast majority are mild stomach upset, company spokesmen said. Carotenoid depletion a concern Concerns about possible cancer risk are relatively new and are linked to the way olestra passes through the body without being digested. Dr. Walter Willett of the Harvard School of Public Health said olestra takes with it several important fat-soluable vitamins and cancer-fighting nutrients called carotenoids, nutrients considered one component in preventing cancer and heart disease. He predicted that if people consume olestra long enough, there might be thousands of illnesses from carotenoid depletion. Extra vitamins are added to olestra, but Willett said its effects on carotenoids are dramatic. "Even the amount of olestra in a small, 1-ounce bag of potato chips will lower blood carotenoids by over 50 percent if consumed on a daily basis," he said. Studies show that a high intake of carotenoids also helps protect people from degenerative eye diseases. Carotenoids are found in red, yellow and orange vegetables. The FDA maintains olestra is safe, but that concerns will be publicly debated next week when its independent food advisory committee spends three days reexamining the product, a routine procedure now that it is widely sold. The panel will look at 6,700 side-effect reports filed with the FDA, as well as olestra's nutrient impact.

~autumn Fri, Jun 12, 1998 (13:36) #28

frightening!

~jgross5 Fri, Jun 12, 1998 (21:17) #29

if something positive comes of this, I'll be able to stop operating on myself. but i'll miss being able to show my colostomy bag to new friends when they take me out to eat (and draw cartoons on restaurant napkins)

~riette Sat, Jun 13, 1998 (02:24) #30

May I compliment you by saying that you are particularly weird today?

~stacey Tue, Jun 16, 1998 (13:37) #31

my favorite reported olestra side-effects... anal seepage fecal emergency (no thank you)

~riette Wed, Jun 17, 1998 (02:39) #32

$hit!

~autumn Wed, Jun 17, 1998 (22:20) #33

LOL!

~TIM Sun, Nov 22, 1998 (04:46) #34

Riette, you have such a way with words!! You said with one word, what stacy said in three phrases.

~riette Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (01:48) #35

I know - I can't help it; one of my many gifts (amongst which grace and elegance don't count).

~TIM Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (01:53) #36

I'm sure, in the right context, you also posess those in abundance!

~riette Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (07:59) #37

Yes, in a-bun-dance! No, I'll leave those things to you!

~TIM Mon, Nov 23, 1998 (11:45) #38

A-BUN-DANCE. Is that any relation to a rain dance, Riette?

~riette Tue, Nov 24, 1998 (01:34) #39

ha-ha! No. Perhaps. A person who looks like a bun, dancing (in the rain?).

~TIM Tue, Nov 24, 1998 (01:45) #40

Wow!! I wonder what kind of results you would get with that?

~riette Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (02:07) #41

The same kind of result as I got the time I danced my nude raindance in front of a guy - he RAN!!!

~TIM Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (10:18) #42

Actually, Riette, I thought that you might get it to rain hamburgers.

~riette Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (11:37) #43

God and the angels protesting?

~TIM Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (13:21) #44

Perhaps they did not like dinner that night. Or they might have sensitive ears.

~riette Thu, Nov 26, 1998 (02:07) #45

OOPS - have I been swearing too much again?!

~TIM Thu, Nov 26, 1998 (02:43) #46

No, Riette. You don't ever swear too much. I simply meant that a proper rain dance is very noisy.

~riette Thu, Nov 26, 1998 (11:07) #47

You have no IDEA! ha-ha!

~TIM Thu, Nov 26, 1998 (17:50) #48

Riette, I have an idea, but it's just an idea. When you get here, you will have to show me.

~riette Fri, Nov 27, 1998 (01:55) #49

Only if it should rain.

~TIM Fri, Nov 27, 1998 (02:01) #50

Riette, you could do it inside.

~riette Fri, Nov 27, 1998 (16:14) #51

And where will I get the rain from?

~TIM Fri, Nov 27, 1998 (16:24) #52

Riette, you don't get rain. It happens.

~riette Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (01:34) #53

Outside, yes. But how does it 'just happen' inside? I have to stand under the shower??

~TIM Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (01:43) #54

Riette, You must have faith. Ask anyone that lives where it rains a lot. The trick is not so much getting it to rain inside, It's keeping it from raining inside all the time!!

~riette Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (15:48) #55

Ha-ha! That makes sense! Then you'd better pray that your roof leaks, 'cos I'm not doing any kind of raindance without rain!

~TIM Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (15:53) #56

OK Riette, if neccessary, we'll manufacture rain.

~riette Sun, Nov 29, 1998 (02:10) #57

It's got to be real - artificial rain makes me very shy.

~TIM Sun, Nov 29, 1998 (02:15) #58

Define "Artificial" Riette, please.

~riette Mon, Nov 30, 1998 (02:01) #59

Rain that comes from sources other than clouds. That's about as clearly as I am willing to define it without your laughing like that again!

~TIM Mon, Nov 30, 1998 (02:13) #60

HNNMMM Clouds. No problem, Riette.

~riette Mon, Nov 30, 1998 (02:13) #61

Dare I ask what you have in mind?

~TIM Mon, Nov 30, 1998 (02:13) #62

Clouds, Riette, different kinds of clouds.

~riette Tue, Dec 1, 1998 (01:50) #63

Coloured ones too?

~MarciaH Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (01:09) #64

Jellyfish Salad

~MarciaH Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (01:31) #65

Sorry to interrupt the rain dance, but if you eliminate Spam and Vienna Sausages Hawaii will starve. That is gourmet food over here - along with Velveeta cheese!

~KitchenManager Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (02:23) #66

I now have a reason not to visit the islands...

~MarciaH Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (15:23) #67

Now I am most unhappy.

~MarciaH Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (15:26) #68

OT, Food that comes in cans with nozzles attached. (spray cheese?! whipped whatever, etc)

~KitchenManager Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (16:45) #69

you'll confuse people here...for those who don't know, OT means on topic...

~MarciaH Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (19:48) #70

Sorry....(...*flog*....*bash*......) I shall try to remember to write out my words next time, thus eliminating this problem.

~KitchenManager Sat, Jul 3, 1999 (23:31) #71

nah...once we know, we'll use them too...and make up new ones!!! some of us are like that, you know...

~autumn Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (01:35) #72

We're good like that you know! As a vegetarian, I know I should find the concept of jellyfish salad offensive, but I can't help but think it's hardly an animal. It's like one step above an amoeba. How weird is that?

~KitchenManager Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (02:16) #73

*silence*

~MarciaH Sun, Jul 4, 1999 (03:03) #74

An amoeba is not an animal? Are we talking souls or concept of animal, veggie and mineral? Justify away, Dear! That is how we survive! I'll even offer to help; I am sure the *silent* wer would also!

~aschuth Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (05:41) #75

If you're on that level, Marcia, you'll surely cause some heartbreak - how about the bakteria in cheese, bread dough and the like? They are, after all, alive. If "no soul" qualifies what we can eat, I'm sure staff around this madhouse (superstar, of course) could come up with a list long enough to seriously feed the whole wide world on a diet of ARTISTS WITHOUT SOUL . De nada.

~MarciaH Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (14:28) #76

Oh no, Alex, that was entirely tongue-in-cheek. I am a devoutly carniverous omnivor and I need to be to survive. I was just questioning how far the others were willing to go in the attempt to prevent infliction of pain on fellow animals. Funny how we can cause mass extinction of humans in the name of defending what is "right" (name any war) but we dare not eat a humanely killed animal. I do not understand - but that is surely another topic in here somewhere, which has also degenerated into a sex thera y session...

~aschuth Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (14:52) #77

What? SEX? Where? *Looking around* What? Where? (Marcia, but what Are we going to do with all the e.g. musicians without soul, we surely can't let them go to waste like that!)

~stacey Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (16:11) #78

OT... (thanks Marcia!) the jellyfish salad didn't 'look' offensive to me... is it the taste or the texture that you believe pigeonholed it into this category?

~MarciaH Mon, Jul 5, 1999 (17:15) #79

Alex,(*also looking around*) I have not seen any...but always hoping...! Haven't a clue about using those superfluous musicians there. Perhaps wer could whip a tasty sauce for them and they could be served. What I am still afraid of is if they will feel pain. Pain is the paramount question in the minds of the truly whacked-out! (quite welcome, m'dear!) As to the Jellyfish - I do not know anyone who has tasted it, but this weekend's Little League games should give me ample opportunity of meeting someone who can shed some light as to taste and texture. I put them in this category since, when offered by me at a party in Drool, they were so offended they relegated the salad to a distant table where the poi and Spam were housed. I though it might be universal, but now I am most curious!

~riette Tue, Jul 13, 1999 (13:50) #80

The thing that sounds offensive about eating a jellyfish (even in salad) is that it is going to be a salty sort of jelly. That's the weird thing.

~MarciaH Tue, Jul 13, 1999 (18:34) #81

...and gray. I don't think I eat much that is gray and rubbery...

~riette Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (14:17) #82

I guess it would be good practise to chew on a used condom beforehand!

~MarciaH Sat, Jul 24, 1999 (20:07) #83

Are they gray???

~riette Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (02:32) #84

Only when having been used properly!

~MarciaH Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (15:25) #85

...Oh!....Ree, I have so many questions...I lead a very sheltered life...but that is definitely way Off topic!

~riette Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (16:55) #86

Well, not exactly. I defenitely categorize gray used condoms under 'Food that should not be' - don't you??

~KitchenManager Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (23:48) #87

if I showed up at a dinner party where they were served, or found one in my salad at a restaurant, yes, I would...

~MarciaH Sun, Jul 25, 1999 (23:54) #88

This is happy news, indeed...

~riette Mon, Jul 26, 1999 (03:43) #89

Indeed! After all, it would take ages and ages to chew such a thing into a state where it can be swallowed.

~MarciaH Mon, Jul 26, 1999 (12:41) #90

I also imagine that the nutritive value is somewhere around nil unless you count the filler...

~autumn Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (00:24) #91

Ewwwwww!!!!!!!!1

~MarciaH Fri, Jul 30, 1999 (17:46) #92

Sorry, but I was trying to bring it back on topic...*lol*

~aschuth Thu, Aug 5, 1999 (05:03) #93

You girls never cease to amaze me - boldly stomp where men and angels would fear to tread...

~MarciaH Thu, Aug 5, 1999 (11:49) #94

Oh! You mean this can be read by just *anyone*...?! Oooops!

~WERoland Sun, Aug 28, 2005 (16:51) #95

Yep, however, it seems few are willing to continue in such a thread...

~MarciaH Sat, Oct 1, 2005 (19:47) #96

I was considering adding CFS but... of course we want to continue the conversation ! NO matter how trivial