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More tattoos, more piercings, and some implants would be cool...

oohh, yeah, and branding... can't forget the branding!

wouldn't mind a navel ring (on me) but the tongue/nipple/penis stuff is over piercing IMHO. Tattoos can be tasteful, don't like implants (maybe jealousy IS a factor!)

Hair color is about as radical as I get. To be honest, all that other stuff smacks of self-mutilation, IMHO.

Really? Do go on...

(he's been working too hard. or at least too much!)

(thought you said that wasn't an excuse)

it doesn't work with me but I thought the statement might help others understand! *smile*

speaking of, gotta go stir the Alfredo, back in a bit (or so...)

I'll check back later this morning. My kids should be arriving soon and I haven't put up the quote for the day yet! Add much fondness to the Alfredo sauce (and mushrooms!) it'll make it taste even better!

okay!

howdy! kids are at gym.

Howdy, I'm between shifts today...go back on at 5, here.

Well, Autumn, you never expounded on your self-mutilation statement. I'm still waiting...

What more can I say? I don't think I'm one of those dewy-eyed earth mother types, but there's no way I'd consider implanting a foreign material in my body for cosmetic reasons.

For what reasons would you consider it?

Re #4 and #15: Neither branding or body building, both body modifications, involve implanting foreign materials, so, are they self-mutilation also? (you don't even wear earrings?)

In a word, yes. (I do wear earrings because my ear lobes have no function to perform. However, I need my tongue, nose, etc. for other, more important biological functioning)

nice differentiation!

but you said, "there's no way I'd consider implanting a foreign material in my body for cosmetic reasons." Tattoos do not intefere with the biological functioning of my skin, so they are no longer mutilations, right? And my nipples serve no biological function, so piercing them would not be mutilation, either, right? What about shaving, plucking eyebrows, waxing, electrolysis, or trimming toe and finger nails? Those are body modifications, also, but are they mutilations?

How do you know the tattoo ink doesn't interfere with the way your skin cells function? I would argue that anything introduced into the body has an effect on the way it performs. I personally think men's nipples are very erotic and spitting out an earring would not be my idea of a good time, but to each his own, I guess. I don't consider anything in the latter paragraph mutilation, just vanity. I'll trim my nails but won't polish them (you know what they put in that stuff?? About a zillion carcinogens) And I really feel sorry for women that think men give a damn about their eyebrows....

Didn't realize eroticity(is this a word?) was a biological function... As to the ink, it actually leaves residue in your lymphatic system even if you have them removed (the tattoos, not the lymph glands!), and I am allergic to red ink also... How do you know that earrings do not affect the way that you hear? (and from most reports, piercing men's nipples actuall increases their sensitivity to erotic stimulus...and I like to nibble on ears, so earrings are something one learns to deal with...) and, visible body modifications fall into another category besides vanity: low self esteem--modifying one's body can be empowering (that's where my earrings came from)

I guess some insecurities are best accepted, and some best empowered. I count anything that can be aroused as performing a biological function--but please keep your tongue out of my ear! (by the way--the red ink allergy, did you find out the hard way??)

Yes, I did... fortunately it is not a bad allergy, I just shouldn't get anymore in red... but, I do know now wether I'm getting sick or suffering from allergies...if it's an allergy, then two of my tattoos itch... (I'll try...can't promise though...) (do you realize that is now two orifices(sp?) of yours that you have complained about me sticking my tongue in?)

LOL! Autumn, I'm not sure about you but ear nibbling is perfectly acceptable (and encouraged), it's when men think jamming their tongue down into your ear is a turn on... yuk! Ever wind up with so much spit in your ear, you felt like you just got out of the swimming pool? (me neither, but the thought has occured to me!)

Ha ha, sounds like a wet willy!! I must confess the ear has never been an erogenous zone for moi. (But I've got plenty of other orifices, wer!)

Plenty? I can only count five...

Oops, sorry, but I just remembered number six, it might be too little though...

do we need an 'acceptable erogenous zones' topic, or should we just include that banter under 'sex'?

Yeah, like trying to restrict it is going work...

letting it all hang out...

HAHA!! This was hilarious!! did the naval thing, lasted ten minutes....hurt like hell.... refuse to pierce anything else, not so much as i don't like it as to what i'm willing to expose to be pierced....(got two in each ear), not an erotic place for me, no wet willies pleeeeze! feel like there's drool in my ear drum, yuk!! ok, what about implants?

specifically, I was talking about transdermal... although, there are a couple of subdermal that would be cool, as would fangs...

you know they do that now, right? hey, what about those guys/gals who get the hooks in their bods? that gives me the creeps!

yep, my response was serious... I could, too, with the right motivation (the hooks and all)

ooooo, wer the vampire *kinky* yeah, like stoned, huh?

no, no drugs... the two easiest would be overly sexually stimulated or super-depressed... (vampire? naw, I'd rather have wolf fangs...)

(way cool!) i'd have to be dead before i'd let anyone shove hooks in my bod...just can't imagine myself being staked to a rack with these hooks and pulleys, *shudder*

i've been tempted by a tummy ring for ages, but it's become such a girl-thing in the UK that people would probably question my gender if i did :)) I'm toying with an eyebrow ring at the moment, although i'm unsure. I've been toying with that for about, like, six months now :)

what? no nipple piercing? don't do the eyebrow thing, it'll swell. Guys do their navals here, but many more do the nipple(s). Whatever you do, it'll hurt, so prepare yourself.

Had the same gender thing when I got my other ear done, but hey, if'n you're secure in your sexuality, who cares? (and, that's about the only thing I am secure in... I would make one homely crossdresser...)

*giggle*

ugh! perish the thought WER!

which crass, anitsocial thought would that be, Stacey?

yeah. i can imagine my face swelling up like a balloon, but it just looks so cool :)

well, probably better than your tongue swelling up, can you imagine not being able to shut your mouth and drooling everywhere? oh....wait, you can.....(claire danes?)

tongue swelling lasts about three days... as to claire drooling, who knows?

so you know this from....experience? do you have your tongue pierced wer?

no, not yet, but I am well read on the subject... and, if you're going to get a piercing, start taking 15 to 30 mgs of zinc a couple of weeks before, as it will help speed the healing...beware, however, it also increases male fertility...

looked at a few piercing and tat mags last night... some people can take it a bit far for my tastes!

woo hoo!! When I was in Richmond last year, I checked out some of those mags and, whew! Some people really have balls (know what i mean?)

woo hoo!! When I was in Richmond last year, I checked out some of those mags and, whew! Some people really have balls (know what i mean?) BTW, Stacey, did you see the stuff involving pearls?

(figured I'd say all that stuff again)

It bore repeating.

and wore it well...

and it made me nasueous!!!(sP?)

claire swooning is a big thing. big story re: claire swooning, actually. i went to the most fashionable club on the South Coast last Friday, and met this absolutely unbelievably amazingly swoonily beautiful girl, who I later realised looked a heck of a lot like Claire Danes. And darn me if I didn't let her leave without getting her phone number. But no, there is more. She was with her two sisters (oo-er;), and I walked past one of them today. Maybe. I wasn't sure at first, then I was kind of sure, then I was certain, and by that time it was too late. Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit. This girl has got me, like, all over the place - she keeps popping up in those thought things that I've heard people have. The word for the last five days is: SHIT. :))

ok, go back to the club! *grin*

now I'm confused Mike... is this the new woman???

no, its not the new woman, who isn't in fact the new woman, just the new one to chase after. it's all a bit confusing, really :) The new woman (blonde n stuff...I must have mentioned her) is called Naomi; the girl I met in the club is called Sophie. There, we can talk names now :)) and yeah, i'm planning on going back to the club this weekend (24 hours to go!) Whether she'll be there or not is a total hit n miss, but i'm going to try and not even think about it....if she's there, bonus, if not...no problem. :))) I'm planning on having a t-shirt printed with I.D.I.O.T. on it :)

my baby girl is Sophia! (know what it feels like to have "walk all over me" on a t-shirt, actually, run around with a welcome mat wrapped around my middle)

ouch. good luck Mike!!!

so??????

nope

nope? nope!? what, you didn't go, she wasn't there? details, give me details!

i went. she wasn't there. but i still had an AMAZING time. i had the most amazingly good weekend of my life, actually, which was very very cool.

WHAT? Without this woman you were beating yourself up over? And....??

You're forgetting Naomi, wolf...maybe they're getting to know each other better. Some romances start with a slow simmer, not a rolling boil...

true!

and the status MIke????

dunno about him, but back on subject....got an email at work concerning nipple piercing. a young man went and had his done. now he's in ICU and they don't know if he's gonna make it. he's got massive body cavity infections as a result. sound's like they did it wrong or he didn't take care of himself after.

my guess would be both, and probably done at home, too... please do not do this stuff at home, kiddies!!!!!

no, he went to a "body shop." (hi wer)

Really? Do NOT go there for service then. Hiya, toots, whassup?

not much, thought i scared ya with my email. oh, my naval was done at a recommended body shop.

Nope...just been working on other stuff, and hadn't figured out the response you needed the most yet...you doing okay?

yeah. guesso. just kinda mixed up. you been real busy cookin', huh?

sometimes...some of it has been my own head stuff, and some of it has been computer related...not to mention the fact that the wife asked me if you and I had something going on about a week after you got back from your last trip, cause I kept talking about ya since I hadn't heard from you for that month and all...

no worries, mate! (surprised you had so much to say *grin*) are things settled now?

yeah, we moved the computer, and I think she catches glimpses of stuff over my shoulder...everything is fine now, and besides, she's not home at the moment! (lotsa people gonna get a kick out of this conversation tomorrow, huh?) and, hey, at times I'm quite loquacious on here. in person, however, I usually talk less than I do on here. Loads of fun I am...

well, it's that anoniminity thing, i say stuff i probably wouldn't say face-to-face. OK, i take that back, SOME stuff i WOULD say, as age has loosened me up a bit *grin* my husband catches stuff too. just to prove how silly he's being, i say i'm talking to my boyfriend! he knows better because we have fought over this thing for awhile until he finally got it into his head that there's nothing to freak about.

I don't know about the anonymity thing, cause I talk the same way in both places, for me it's more of a higher intelligence per capita quotient on here than in reality...

gotcha, feel the same way too. have more interesting conversations and learn a lot!

if'n you want to or not! so when you leaving again? I thought you'd already be gone...

well, it got moved back a week. now it's next week that i zoom, but we'll see.

am sleepy, night!

See ya tomorrow, sweet dreams!

way to ge us back on topic wolf!! (response 71!) *smile* WER, I never know if things are going better for you at home or not and Wolf, you always seem so jolly it's hard to imagine too many 'black clouds' in your life (unless I'm reading through the poetry posts). Either way, hugs to you both. and a neck rub (they always make me feel better!)

t'anks, i needed that *smile*

Neither do I, Stacey... and thanks for the neck rub... (I owe you one *wink*)

Aww, geez guys, *group hug*...I want all of you to have happiness and peace in your lives (real & virtual). I think our higher intelligence quotient per capita (!) renders us more empathetic than some of the people in our everyday lives...

my personal tailor (*grin*) had a celtic band tatoo on his arm, and it looks really great. now i'm tempted by that. opinions?

depends, does he have a weeny arm? do you have a weeny arm? how big is the tatoo? are there any pics of just your arm out there? help me out here!

not a bad size arm, and getting bigger. not particularly thick (especially from the back), but very well defined. i would say my arms are probably larger than his.

how big was the tatoo? in width? (and is it something you'd want Claire to see?)

probably about half an inch wide claire? she'd probably love it ;)

get as much info as you can, make an educated decision....(and go to a good place!)

anybody see tattoos and skin on tbs tonight? don't think y'all are gonna catch me in a body shop anytime soon. and they had branding! some gal has a thing for fans (talkin' cool ya off fans) and had a metal press of a box fan. anyway, she had her fan custom made to accomodate branding (they didn't heat up the metal deal and press that in) the brander drew up a template of the box fan then took metal sticks, heated them with a propane lighter and....well, i don't need to go there.

gots a question, you know how some folks wear an ornament between the eyes, right at the top of their nose? well, does that bar deal gro all the way through the skin? since the skin is pretty tight there, how do they pierce it?

where you be?

oh, i'm 100!! lemme correct my typo: does that bar deal GO all the way through......

hey! you snuck that right in. ok, so i was 101, sorry....

(and actually, most folks wear the "ornament" BEHIND their eyes) (as i know too, um, well)...

whatdaya mean "behind" the eyes? you talkin' the brow ring?

(never mind)

NEVER MIND?????? no way, i gotta know now!

If you pinch the skin just above the nose and below the eyebrows, there should be some give in the skin above all the bone and cartlidge, and, yes, it goes all the way through...it is one type of "surface to surface" piercing.

was simply referring to the largely ornamental aspect of human intelligence (and mine, too)...

yowch! guess it's better than the fishhook deal for navals, not to mention all the pulling and tugging to get that darned ball deal in place. felt like he was gonna rip open my tummy-tum

(nick, you're silly *smile*) (wer, thanks for clearing that up, and do you know this from experience? you gotta a bar between your eyeballs?)

not unless it grew there within the last four months! (please don't go there WER!)

where else can't I go?

no penis piercing either!

was in the comtemplation mode on that again, actually...I appreciate the input

certainly an interesting idea, if incredibly painful. i'm intrigued as to what it would feel like. Having it done would be evil itself, but afterwards.....am just intrigued. probably more so than about any other piercing, too.....stay tuned, stay scared ';)

i'm scared...

why for?

ok, but if you get the pearls, i'm just gonna fall outta my chair!

if I could but afford them...

now i'm scared *grin*

yeah, yeah, yeah...

*heehee* (nighty-night)

aw, Autumn's on now, too... coulda been a party...

Party on Wolf & wer!!

has anyone noticed that our discourse on bodmods has surpassed our discourse on sex or...?

guess they're more controversial! Sex = yes. Bodmods? hmmmm.....

guess for super-reading, should combine 'em into the sex or bodmods topic... btw, Hiya, Autumn!

or maybe a sex with modbods topic...

Euuuwwwww!

Aren't you even a little curious?

Nyet.

so, Mike, which type o' penis piercing intrigues you the most? Apradavya, ampallang, Prince Albert, dydoe, frenum, hafada, reverse Prince Albert, or surface to surface along the shaft (which is similiar to, but placed differently than, a frenum)?

you wrote that chapter in your book too, huh?

(which one is the pearls?)

(none of those)

do you know what it's called? (all of "those" involve piercing? why?)

don't know it's actual name, I'll see if I can find out... (yes...why what?)

what is the purpose? who does it help?

for general information genxers: http://www.gauntlet.com/ http://www.bodyplay.com/ http://www.bme.freeq.com/ (be prepared...some aspects of these sites are for very mature audiences only)

pics?

yep...

euw! ooo! haven't decided which yet ;)

thanks for the sites WER, sure gives me something to think about while I'm home sick!

*BEAMZ* stacey

tell me when you're done, I've got more where those came from...

all hot and bothered with no place to go...

Adelyne will be cruising through Denver in my new Buick in a day or two, hop on and help her drive to Austin!

who's Adelyne?? Man, I'd LOVE to help her drive to Austin but I'd be hard pressed for a ride back I'm sure!

there you go, All Miss Hot-N-Bothered

you're small enough that I could probably mail you back... (didja notice we responded predominately simultaneously?)

I did not notice... you mean I missed an opportunity to chat with you almost real time???

yep, I tried, but I couldn't get ahead of you so'd you'd notice I was on...

I'vd just been sitting back and letting the aging process take care of "Severely Modifying" my Body. The Wife's pregnancy is pretty Severely Modifying hers, as well...

Hiya, Tommy, long time no nada...

and it's been even longer now...

and even longer. you guys watch taboo on discovery? OMG, the stuff people do. did you see the thing on (MTV?) where the dude wanted a real bullet wound without being shot by a bad guy? yeah, some guy actually does this out of his warehouse/garage. he has one of those big craftsman tool boxes with all different types of ammo and explains what'll happen. he calls the ambulance and they wait outside. then the modifyee sits back in a chair and relaxes while the modifyer shoots him! and then the dummy has the gawl to say "that MFing hurt!" what a big fat (although rather skinny) dummy! and we saw a gal at a Mickey D's drive-thru with piercings all over her beautiful face. she was just too pretty to screw up the whole thing, y'know? it wasn't attractive in the least.

Uh, I'll pass.