geo conference business

I fixed some stuff in the rc and the htmlheader files today. I think geo is functioning normal. I'm trying to run a pledge drive this quarter to pay for our hosting fees and get some backups going. I realized when I read your request that we really need backups ... solid backups .. on this system. I suggest any and all conference hosts backup their conferences with bulletproof ftp as an added backup measure.

What was it you wanted linked, Marci?

You cannot believe how relieved I am this morning to see Geo back. I shall definitly back up with bulletproof to get safeguard Geo. Many porfound thanks for restoring this Conference. *Big Hugs*!!! I'll email you about my inability to connect via ftp currently. I login as usual on CRT but now I am marci instead of marcia and when I do get in, I am in a site with just the few files I sent there the last time we had difficulties. Worse, I cannot see it on the net so anything I put there might as well not exist. The software I was adding was ADD ME which is a tracking service (free) which supposedly allow me access to a list of lurkers as well as logins. Curiosity overcame my best thinking and I learned not to do THAT again! BTW, my buttons and bars are still unavailale for the rc file so I can only use the default ones. My account is still badly messed up! Thanks again! You're my hero for sure!

We can get this information with webstats now, I run this report every month and am getting ready to run it again. We may be able to run a custom report for geo, I'll have to check.

Ok..... excellent! I found it fascinating! I was wondering how effective my attempts to interest people in Geo and ulimately in Spring were. Look into AddMe - It is free, I think. I had not activated my account yet. I shall not do so - but it might be what you need unless it is too rudimentary to handle the amount of traffic you have. http://www.addme.com/issue214.htm

http://www.spring.net/webstats shows you the kinds of reports we are getting now. I'll be running some new reports soon.

Thanks, Terry. I find them totally fascinating!

Something is wrong with that link to webstats URL; it produces a 404 message.

Terry, how about this: http://www.spring.net/webtrends/

Hi all I have promoted Geo in World Volcanism. My most recent message there is intended to give you more traffic by pointing potential visitors in the right direction. Marcia knows that I enjoy Geo as I think you and the others might as well, Terry. Bearing that in mind is the reason for doing so. Another thing is if you do not object, I will put out a message in my Yahoo Groups plus Lisa Seal's Earthquake Predictors......... (call it what you may). I did not know where to put this so I left it here. If you have advice, comments, arguments or just want someone to talk too: lava.dome@eudoramail.com Best Rob

Wow, Rob, what a great promo for Marci 's great efforts here!

Thanks, all. Perhaps I might have a few conversationalist out of the mix instead of lurkers - which I also appreciate. *Hugs* Rob for your promotional efforts. I'm not sure we need Lisa's additional EQ club on Yahoo but since we all were chosen as co-founders, I cannot think of any thing else to do but to post the items I post here and in World Seismicity @ Yahoo. It surely sounds like overkill. Lisa is young. Very young. Which has nothing to do with anything other than she should look at what Rob has done with his Yahoo clubs and realize it takes a lot of effort on the part of the creator of said club to make it work. Look how much verbage I have dumped into Geo to help stimulate conversation. It seldom occurrs simultaneously through wishful thinking. Lisa needs to write some good posts and provocative suggestions before she expects results. Been there and know that!

Hi all I will put the appropriate subject for the earthquakes and volcanoes in World Seismicity and World Volcanism links sections, so that those who want to visit the conferences and perhaps participate are able to do so. I am thinking of doing a computer course in basic web page design in my spare time sometime down the road because I have been wondering about the possibility of advancing the subjects that I love online. Probably won't be this summer but maybe next summer. Not too sure where it will lead me but the idea is one I have been entertaining with greater frequency. Rob

Go for it, Rob! Compter training can come be a very good investment. Should it ever be necessary to work from home, who knows how unlimited your abilities and possibilities may be. Besides, I know a new GeoArchaeologist MSc who does the matrix for which the finds are inserted. My son does graphics presentations of site work on AutoCad. The better you are prepared for Geology, the better you will find people to accept your employ. Besides, you can make suggestions for Geo!

terry, how do we use bulletproof.ftp??? (and i'm glad geo is finally looking like it's old self again!!!)

Bulletproof FTP let's you set up "sites" where you enter your password, username and login directories. Hold on, I'll open mine up. Here's a good list of tips: http://www.bpftp.com/general_usage.html When you use it , it looks and works a lot like Windows Explorer.

I STILL need to be able to have the rc file put my Geobuttons and bars back. I don't mind the default buttons, but they sure are not as lovely as the Lava buttons you created for me, Wolfie!!! I have written to Terry... Want to see severe withdrawal? Crash Geo. Arrrgh! I did that while you were gone, I think. Has anything changed for us lowly hosts who have not the first idea of what Bulletproof entails? I think I need to go hunt up info on the net.

Terry, I use CuteFtp and it is a long trek to my /marcia files. Oh well, it makes it harder for others to add stuff to mine, not that anyone would wish to do so! What do I need to do? Buy more software?

Terry, all of my ftp sites are working on Spribng's hard drive. Many thanks! Now, if only my Geobuttons were visible...*sigh*

OK geo buttons are next on the list. I'll dig up that email.

No hurry... ! It is Satuday night! Kick back and watch the Hawaii-Fresno State game.

Oops, San Jose State. We already beat Fresno. Good Texas game (like when did you last lose to Baylor?) and Penn State too. I do not expect to see the buttons until you have a better social life. =) Thanks!

Why can't I ftp? Terry, I think I need to email you again. I can see /marci but it is different from the one to which I ftp things. The same goes for /geo. I cannot ftp, however, to my main files at /marcia. This is most frustrating. John has had problems seeing his files, as well. I will wait until tomorrow to check it, but I think either someone is working on them or my address is suddenly incorrect on my ftp. It did work yesterday...!

I'll check the permissions.

Try it logging in as the user geo. drwxr-xr-x 3 geo geo 512 Oct 30 15:35 marci drwxrwxr-x 6 geo geo 512 Oct 30 15:35 marcia drwxr-xr-x 2 geo geo 512 Oct 30 15:35 geo

what we're having trouble with ftp again? i use ws_ftp95 (that might explain why no one knows what to put in any of my boxes!!)

Gadzooks...! drwxr-xr-x?????? Ok!!! I'll report back!

I got in and successfully transferred files. Did it the old way since I could not log in as you suggested. This works. I'll not mess with it, unless it stops working again. Thanks, Terry! I'm using CuteFTP.

Hi all Kia Ora Wolfie, how are you at the moment??? Rob

hi rob! at the moment i'm recuperating from the drive home! *laugh* actually it was a piece of cake tonight. what does kia ora mean? and does that word "kia" have anything to do with the kia automobiles?

KIA is Korean car. I think he is welcoming you. E Komo Mai! Please, no playing in the freeways, Wolfie!

oh no, none of that! a fellow canine was caught out in it the other day, in the carpool lane too. some of the cars tried to force him over to the curb without realizing that pushing him over to the left would only cause him to veer to the right, straight into 4 more lanes of traffic. a couple of people tried to coax him into their cars (we were at a standstill) and a well-dressed man was walking after him, risking his own life, to get this dog off the road. a man after my own heart. of course, i had people in the car and couldn't take the dog with me (there's a two dog limit here).

if Kia is Korean, why is an Aussie pushing it? (i really thought it was an australian make)

Rob is a New Zealander. His greeting was in Maori. The similarily of names is purely coincidental, I think!

http://www.kia.com/info.shtml Kia Motors America is based in Irvine, Calif., and is dedicated to the strategies of the parent company, Kia Motors Corp. of Seoul, South Korea. The guiding principles are easily stated: "provide high-quality, high-value vehicles at prices well below the competition and back them up with a 10 Year / 100,000 Mile Warranty Program and a customer-first policy."

Kia Ora Katoa Haere mai, Wolfie and Marcia. How are you all today? This son of NZ is fine and well in Aotearoa/New Zealand. I will put links to Geo in World Seismicity and World Volcanism, plus add it to my favourite pages on my Yahoo! profile. Rob

Mahalo nui loa, Lopaka. Your links and publicity for Geo is most welcome. I have posted here of your most worthy offereings in World Seismicity and World Volcanology. Now, get thee back and tell us the RIGHT way to evacuate that little valley in which you had us fishing during an earthquake. I KNOW what your Uncle Bruce did. I think I would stay out of said fishing area. Nothing in that stream is worth risking my neck for. I have a friend who is returning for his annual fly fishing expedition to South Island. How much danger is he in? Huge trout down there! No wonder devotees of the sport return year afer year!

hi rob and marcia *HUGS* (thanks for the bit on kia)

*Hugs* Wolfie! Thanks for putting my storehouse of irrelevant information to good use! I wondered why I knew all of these unconnected bits of *stuff*

because you knew your twin would need to know it one day *LAUGH*

oh, marcia, could we have a topic here (or somewhere relevant) about man-made gemstones? i'd like to discuss the pros and cons of buying simulated pieces (esp. of the rarer and more expensive stones). thanks for considering it *HUGS*

Yes!!! I'll do it straight away. We can consider all man-made stones including "cultured" marble of which my barthroom floors are made.

excellent, thank you marcia *HUGS*

I have several "created" gem stones and my floor. I'll be posting them shortly. Time to post all of those goodies they are making in laboratories to ornament an already gilded lily. *sigh* Can there ever be enough? Too much?! You know I will say a resounding NO !!!

(Wolfie, you coulda done it!!!)

(i know but i wanted to make sure it belonged in this conference first *smile*) can you see me on MSN?

Anything you wish do discuss belongs here. Almost all of us are terrestrial or planetary in some way. I looked for you but the only person I see on MSN is the elusive and puzzling man who staked a claim on my life a year or so ago. I'll watch to see if you can get online.

well, i don't get it....i've downloaded the msn browser and everything--redownloaded msn messenger and nothing. i don't know what to do next. start over probably.

*sigh* I saw you or someone logged into your account (have talked briefyly with AM when I thought it was you). Perhaps it is me. Splitting headache has limited my tact and charm today, usually copious and available to all. Tomorrow??!

well, i'm here and have been logging in this afternoon and evening. i'm sorry about your headache, sounds like the one i had yesterday that even exedrin migraine wouldn't take care of. go to bed and sleep it off! *HUGS*

I should not eat coconut and I will be far more wary next time. It is toxic to me. As my huggy twin, I hope you fare better. They put coconut in just about everything out here. Poor Wolfie. I did not know being twins with you also meant suffering together. *HUGS* I hope you are feeling better. I am.

my headache went away about 7:30 PM. and i came straight home from work thinking i would lie down but i ended up scrubbing a couple of windows and picking up the house. and THEN, we had pancakes for dinner. i can't stand coconut!

Wolfie! Come and sit down beside me while I tell you how to relax. It does not involve scrubbing windows (mine are hopeless and far too big for me to manage) picking up the house will wait (that's what children are for!)... *sigh* supper happens. I don't suppose you used a mix for those pancakes? In any case they take forever to make and you get to eat last. Been there and done that. *Hugs* I'm happy your headache is gone!

no, the pancakes were from scratch! and in order to get the kids to do anything, i have to sit there and supervise so it's easier to do it myself (though they do have their own chores)

*Sigh* A part of motherhood I do not miss. I once made pancakes for my dad from scratch. He folded the entire stack into a little roll, popped them into his mouth, devoured them and wanted more. They were light and golden and meltingly delicious. I have not made them since! I only got to eat one...

i only get to eat one or two myself! and when halfway through cooking them, i have to grap those just to make sure i get to eat too!!

Sounds Familiar! *Big tender compassionate Hugs*

yeah, and you have experience with the boys too. he is going through this thing where he can eat the whole pizza (and he's still annoyingly picky)..... *HUGS*

The proverbial bottomless pit *HUGS* Mine stripped my Leftover Christmas just after we had dinner... We went to see the decorations in the neighborhood and he had the rest of my turkey!!!

*laugh*

I thought and I thought and I thought. And, finally I figured out how to make Geo's buttons and bars appear again. *sigh* It has been so long I am not certain they look right, but it is good to have them back. John, I can do anything you like including changing the wallpaper as we talked about earlier this week. Or, change anything else, for that matter. Please let me know.

i just noted the lava bars and buttons---it's so good seeing them again!!! (how'd you figger it out?)

Wolfie, it took me a while and when John said something to the effect that where I had my main files stored was a secure place with some sort of encryption involved. I am not sure why I can post images from that url but not graphics for the conference. In any case, I tried to put them on /marci. Suddenly they appeared and it was sooooo good to see them again. It was my surprise for John. Now, to get the title page whipped into shape. I also found some alternative bars I think I will like better. Will try them shortly.

Opinions on the new bars???

I don't like them. Have new ones on order. Meanwhile, back to the lava bars

send me a copy of the new bars---didn't catch them today)

Ok. I really need skinnier dark red bars which John is preparing. Actually, he has created a whole new look for Geo. We're still working on it.

So, you're doing ok with managing your geo backgrounds, etc? I hope we can document this hostly things somewhere, I mostly deal w/ system admin and keeping this ship afloat rather than design issues. We need a design maven!

We are doing just fine. John has much expeience with programming and creating backgrounds and fonts and making them lood 3-D. I try to add my Aesthetics to the mix, and I install them when we are done. Yup, Terry. I have learned so much from Geo. Like giving birth the first time. You are handed a baby with no owner's manual. I learned bit by bit and I am still learning. I appreciate that you are good at saving me when I get into trouble with my programming. I keep copies of all programming and make notations including how to restore it to this present state. I had a very good teacher whom we still miss. John is definitely a design maven. I am working on assisting him and learning all I can from his capable mind. You keep the sytems up and running. Wolfie and John and I will keep it pretty and interesting. By the way, did you know we have a rather large readership in Greece? Unfortunately I cannot get them to login because I do not know them personally. Welcome and Yia sou (the Greek equivalent of Aloha.)

Oh, please keep the welcome mat out for The Design Maven whose infinite patience allowed Geo to exist in the first place. He made it possible for me to make is as you see it now. *HUGS* Wolfie and I and a lot of other people miss him!

Absolutely.

I can hardly wait for the new look of Geo. However, unlike Wolfie, I won't wait with baited breath and pass out. I'll just take my sinus medication and sniffle occasionally.

I finally found the very thin read line horizontal bars I needed all this while. No, don't hold your breath. We have lots of sorting to do. Posting it and recoloring and deciding it is not better than the current look. We did that last night (John's morning.) It's fun and a great adventure when your eyes are not falling out of your head from graphics overload. It also is an enormous help to have a very kind and patient specialist helping guide me.

really, it's ok, marcia is an expert with CPR! *LAUGH* course, it's kinda hard to tell when we wolves turn blue!!

(marcia, you slipped in on me!)

oh, and i went out trying to find another neat hummingbird for you with something to actually sit on or feeding off of. found a bunch of other cutsie things but will keep looking!

marcia, i'm gonna resolve this stupid MSN Messenger thing. i don't know why it's not working!! but, i gotta get off line now so g'night all you geophiles! *HUGS*

Wolfie, can you send me a blank button from which my lava buttons where made? You'll see why! I have downloaded an upgrade to MSN and it is better. It still does not include a time stamp which I really miss. You and the missing B are the only ones currently live on my list. I suggest and uninstall, restart your computer then install the upgraded one. You'll love the emoticons (or not.... they are rather silly on MSN, actually!)

i should have a blank button somewhere for you. will look through my graphic files!

oh, i'll try to reinstall the msn stuff--did download their newer browser. but everytime i restart my system, a message comes up saying something about missing a tray.*** (i can't remember the file extension)

Oooh good!!! So, how do you like the title page? Netscape does not do the rotations very well on the globe. I have a second one I would like to try. ??? uninstall the entire MSN thing and download a fresh copy from the Net, Wolfie. I need you !!! *HUGS*

Wolfie, note down the file you need. I have one "tray" file in my systems folder for each IM I run. You need to download it with the complete IM software. I'll send you a copy of mine if you can pinpoint it (and tell you where to drop it whan I do)

all i know, marcia, is when i restart the computer, it says "cannot locate trayapp.exe" and i think this is what's making the computer think MSN Messenger is already up and running. tried to talk to an MSN geek but i got kicked out of the online conversation. i need MSN Messenger back!!! *HUGS*

Terry, have you ever gotten anything from Amazon.com for running their link? If not, I'm taking it off Geo. I love the new smaller buttons! Thank you, John!

Wolfie, I can send you the MSN.exe file and you can install it from that. It's what I used. Better still would be to uninstall it, run defrag, then reinstall the download from their website. It is a bother, but it will get rid of the spurious files which are confusing your computer now.

well, apparantly i confused the geek too. he wanted to know what version of msn explorer i was running and that's when i got kicked out. i'm tired of fighting with it. did try to run scandisk but that kept starting over and over and over again. nice job on the buttons john! and i've noticed the different globes being used. the current one is of the "He's got the whole world in His hands" and is nice. my fave one so far is the one that was kinda invisible........

Yup, This globe is the one. Heaven help us all if the hand which holds us drops us. Note the kill button, Wolfie (almost no one else can see it.) I wanted something that went with the other buttons but looked VERY different. He made a chromatic negative of it for me. It works. I don't get anywhere near it! For those who are not hosts of conferences, if I hit that button by mistake whatever is here disappears forever. I truly don't want to do that!

I think we are done with the middle of the night (for most of the world) and early morning (for John) tweaking of the graphics. John is pleased as am I. I will leave it alone unless I can get Terry or someone to change the large Spring button. John made one which matches the rest. Alas, since the current one is in http://www.spring.net/yapp-icons/sbutt.gif and I surely would not try to change that file, I am stuck with a non-matching set. This one is Geo's new one: http://www.spring.net/marci/Public/GeoButtons/sbutt.gif *Sigh* want to try yahoo or AOL for non-AOL users? Both of them work well for me. If worse comes to worse, I'll try to use ICQ but it keeps crashing my computer! *Hugs* and thanks, John, for your infinite patience with me. Your talents and expertise is much appreciated.

check your email, sweetie, i've forwarded a blank button for you. and, alas, as a poster only in this conference, i cannot see your kill button! (speaking of new buttons, am working on something for the garden room)

Oh I forgot. Wolfie, you have been so much of me for so long, I forgot that only I and Terry and Ray Lopez and SysAdm can see my "power" buttons. You mean I am on my own now? Frightening thought! Thanks for the button blank. I'm eager to see what you have created for the garden conference. It seems that we mentioned it long ago when you put the pansy background there. I know it will be lovely! *HUGS* and thanks to our Wolfie!

Hi �Twins�, Terry and all Thank you for your good words. I gave only a small assistance to this very good hostess and programmer. I hope you like new face of GEO. I have not enough free time, as I wish, in order to be more present in GEO and in the other conferences in �Spring�. I hope that my of many hours work will be finished after about two or three weeks. I need more time for my research too. Wolfie and all who you are anxious for big EQ: In Greece, we have about 3 up to 10 EQ's with magnitude up to 4.0R every day or about 180 up to 350 EQ�s every month. But we had only one strong EQ (6.4R in Skyros Island) within three years. So, I believe that small EQ's is meaning almost nothing for the direct future. Also, you can take an idea for the ground faults in Greece, if you see this THIS MAP. Regards John

thanks john! and thanks marcia, you know i'm here for you sweetie!!

John is offline with thunderstorms. (I post his weather in Geo 14) and we are having them, also. It makes it nice and dark for Christmas lights, though... Oooh, Wolfie, I just MUST photograph my Christmas Cacti. They are early, as usual, but are they beautiful!!! I'll post my results in Garden conference.

How about this globe? The golden one with the shadow...?

oh, that's a shadow! i was getting ready to say something looked funny on my screen (which would be no surprise since everything's fuzzy on this one anyway). i still say that the transparent earth globe is my fave! can't wait to see your cacti--i picked up a smaller one and it's blooming furiously and very early--and it's white!

whihc color transparent one? I found one I absolutley adore but need to make smaller. It's red and in high relief. My white one is struggling back from a near-death experience when it was put under a table and got no water for a month (not by ME!) The ones currently blooming are a light coral pink with green "leaves" and another one a brilliant electric pink with dark red "leaves." My bright red year round bloomer is takeing the holidays off. It stops blooming simultaneously with the appearance of flowers on the other two!

I posted the red globe. It's big! Too big?? If it is not this one I am going back to the "hollow" red one I had originally.

i like this one (the transparent one)....

This is the one I thought you liked. Unfortunately it does not rotate evenly in Netscape, but I like it well enough that it is the globe that I will probably use until I find one for my Dream Title page. Simple elegance is what suits me best. I have actually found it. Now, to figure out how to make it the way I want it. John!!!

The �O� in �GEO� is transparent. I have put green background but blue or red backgrounds are not adaptable. From the other hand without background is enough empty. I would like your opinion. John

Why topic 14 does not keep to command of the "Activity within last week"? Today Humans, cannot wait to load so many responses for the past. Informations for the past are bootless almost to all. John

I will check the maps in 14. I was unaware of any of them not working. I delete those whose servers have taken them off-line. I would be delighted to talk to your about how to accomplish what you suggest for Geo 14 when next you are able to IM, John. Is anyone else having difficulties loading the weather maps of choice?

*T E S T* I was unable to post here. I wonder if it has anything to do with my new graphics. Actually, I could not post anywhere in Spring an hour ago!

i like the new graphics--esp. the christmas ones! *woohoo* marcia's getting us in the spirit. john, i have trouble with that option too. (clicking on "activity within the last seven days)

In regards to the activity -7 command, it works for me for Geo 14 http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/14/since/-7 However, it goes back to a spurious date of 2036 and response 5, which was a long time ago. I don't know if that odd date is the cause of this difficulty but that is where mine goes. Thanks John, for all your help. I hate bothering you when I know you are so busy and you have family and research ahead of Geo on your "things to do" list. The current festive look for Geo is thanks to John's overnight working (my night - his lunch) and the new and improved title graphics. I think we may have each holiday honored by Geo-graphics now that I am getting better at installing the graphics John finds for us. Hugs! (When you stop being so good to Geo, I'll stop hugging you in gratitude!)

I finally caught up with the posts here. Good grief! Greece is absolutely cross-hatched with faults! I have never seen them at right angles before. I think my son would like to see this. He knows parallel faulting just as I do. If you allow, I will email this to him. Many thanks for posting the link. I could not have imagined! You are too generous in your praise for this hostess and programmer. I am struggling along trying to stay one page ahead of everyone else so they don't get bored and go away! I truly appreciate your help!!

I truly appreciate your work Marcia! Yes, you can inform your son about Greek faults. John

Thank you, John. I think the appreciation is mutual. I am in great admiration of your research and vast expertise. Whatever I seem to know a little, you understand completely. We work well together! Happy me! I will let you know what my son says about the faulting of Greece. I still wonder that you not a million little blocks of land in the sea. (Yes, I know there are many which are!

New background and garland on title page thanks to John. I think the star is too big in comparison with earth, but considering what it repersents, perhaps it is just right. We definitely need that shape for the star. I wanted more of a snowy background until after the New Year but it is hard on the eyes to read when it is so bright. I rather like this papyrus-psrchment look. Hugs and thanks, John. I appreciate your help enormously.

Hi all Thank you Marcia. We have very bad weather with rain, snow, and low temperatures. I will be back as they fix my telephone line. Regards John

Be safe, John! Somehow, I did not picture snow so close to the warm beautiful waters of the Aegean Sea. You will be having the white Christmas the rest of us are dreaming about.

I put a flashing star up which I like but it is too much with the spinning globe and swinging bells. This is the star: http://www.spring.net/marci/Public/Seasonal/ani-star-Yellow.gif It flashes to much. I like the gold star I had up before but it did not flash enough. It only it would pulate just a tiny bit... but I don't know how to do that. I tried... http://www.spring.net/marci/Public/Seasonal/gldstrsm.gif Suggestions?

you got me, sweetie! but you're right, the blinking one would be too much!

I changed it back to the gold unblinking star. It got to be difficult to load after posting several times. Perhaps a kind and gentle and far too overworked programmer might be able to make this one change just slightly. Or I could try to place his little gold star here.... but I think it will not be as high as I want the star to be - like it is shining down on earth... I'll try.

It got difficult to load the page with the blinking star. It was labelled "pulsar" and so it is! Far too much for Geo's little front page.

Welcome back, John! We will try to entertain you while your broken leg mends. It will be a pleasure for me... *HUGS*

Hi all, Thank you Marcia and Wolfie where you prayed for me. I am alive and safe. But I cannot move without pain and help. I will stay far of my work for a period greater than two months. Happily, I have my research to spend some of my time, and your warm company to reduce my pain. It was a bad unexplained moment. I was walking inside the factory (going to my office in the morning) on absolutely flat surface with about 5 cm snow. Maybe it was non-visible ice under the snow. I lapsed in the middle of a step. The next moment I was down with my left leg broken and out of joint at the astragal area. I can�t explain why this is happened to me. I was walking very carefully! I tend to believe the destiny! John

don't worry about it, i twisted my back walking home as a kid and it still acts up to this day (i had just stepped funny on some ice). glad to know you're alright (hurting but alright just the same) *HUGS*

Aloha John! Our hugs are a constant resource to draw on for your healing. Prayers, too! I slipped on "black ice" and slid under a moving car whe I was in college. The wheels had just passed me or I would have ben run over by them. It still scares me to think about it even this much later. I also know people who have had terrible falls on plain tiles like the have for floors in shopping malls and market places. The glaze is VERY slippery for some shoes. Then, there is destiny. That is the most slippery of all. I tend to believe that, also! For your entertainment, if you have the means of using telnet: If you are an old timer and know about ASCII, and if you have telnet capability, then try this for fun...Somebody worked very hard to do this: telnet://towel.blinkenlights.nl From Bob Shannon-Pinpoint Since 1992 Pinpoint May be found by clicking: http://alert.bobshannon.org

*sigh* My typing is as bad as my headache. I think I am having sympathy pains for John. *Hugs*

I want everyone to know that I do not edit anyone's posts! Weatherlawyer should know by now that editing is a convoluted thing to do - I can only delete and I have done so per his request in Geo 3. I have neither the desire nor the ability to edit someone else's text. It might have been nicer if the accusing party had contacted me about this privately before making comments such as he made. Too bad we had to tighten the security here, too. Thanks for hanging in here with me. I will pass the next new-comer by the regulars next time. I was entirely too trusting!

Marci couldn't edit anyone's posts if she wanted too. No one can. It's not a feature of Yapp.

Thanks for saying that. Tis true!

no need to defend yourself with us marcia, we know you too well *HUGS*

*HUGS* Wolfie. There are folks as ready to leap to your rescue as they are to come to mine. You are very dear tome and thanks for reminding me. I guess it is the littlest child in the family syndrome which makes me explain so much. This time I KNOW it wasn't a guilty conscience. But for those lurking, I just wanted them to know that if they wish to post, whatever they wish to say is what will appear.

*HUGS*

I removed all of Michael2's posts per his request. I hope I got them all.

*sigh* got your email sweetie, don't worry about it! *HUGS*

Unless he is more foolish than I thought, it is out of sight, out of mine. *HUG* Back Atcha

We're all familiar with Internet addresses that end in "net", "com", "edu", "org." And now, a new Internet suffix, "name", has just gone live. Global Name Registry, the company operat- ing the new domain, said .name is the first Internet domain reserved for individuals rather than businesses. It became necessary to expand the number of Internet endings because of the exponential growth of cyberspace. When the Internet was invented, no one realized that so many users would be online. According to the Internet Association for Assigned Names and Numbers there are now some 32 million registered Internet addresses. The company said .name allows an individual to create a per- sonal Web address, www.firstname.lastname.name, as well as an e-mail address, firstname@lastname.name. The company has registered 60,000 domain names and e-mail accounts so far and said that in the future, consumers will be able to use their .name address as their mobile phone number and as a digital key for e-commerce transactions. Individuals will typically pay between $30 and $35 for a domain name and e-mail address. Last year, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers approved seven new top-level domain names: .name, .biz, .info, .pro, .museum, .aero and .coop. Although it had been stalled by a lawsuit over its distribution practices, .biz was finally activated in November.

I can get into ftp on Spring but it is entirely different now. I can find geo folder and marci and the old one of mine (marcia) but I cannot fpt to any of them. *sigh* Tomorrow I will ask Terry. Keep the faith, John, Terry'll get it straightened out so you can use space on the hard drive for your research again! I think you will be the means of his immortality as well as your own! Meanwhile, I have removed the background from the Olympic rings and am ready to post them on the title page. Then I decorate for Mardi Gras. Then for Valentine's Day.... then back to Olympics. *sigh* Everything happens at once!

I guess none of that is needed. We are now into lent and we have celebrated Valentine's Day elsewhere. Trying to be patient... (as if I had a choice...)

Does anyone know why I cannot post in Drool?

nope! i've got to try to ftp and see if it works for me.

Hi all Marcia, Geo's numbers are not changing. Even though I have nearly twice that many messages in Rob's GeoWorld, the counter has jammed on 12. The one that I set up my self is okay though. Wolfie, I had a cool idea. Have you got Yahoo Messenger, which both Marcia and I have or ICQ which I also have? I thought it would be cool to instant message you. If you do have them and are interested my number for ICQ is 131739692 and my Yahoo ID is robvolc1980. Rob

i have icq but am having trouble getting it back up on my system. i have MSN messenger but not yahoo. thanks for the contact info! (marcia, i don't even have ftp on this new thing--at least none that i can find and use)

Wolfie, you are in good company. I cannot ftp, I cannot telnet directly to Spring and it too Terry trying to convince him it did not work. We wait patiently... *SIGH* I have Rob's GeoWorld with 20 posts - the 20th being the one I entered on Saturday. I just did a *test* posting and it works for me - post 21. Is your browser messing you up? Hang on and I will try to get a hold of you on Yahoo IM

Hi all The original World Volcanism Group and World Seismicity Group do not exist any more because they had a name change - Global Volcanism and World Earthquakes are the new titles. However, the clubs have been converted to Groups. So what has happened is we now have "worldseismicity" and "worldvolcanism" groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Global_Volcanism http://groups.yahoo.com/group/World_Earthquakes I will post the addresses for the converted clubs shortly. Rob

The clubs and groups will not be cokmbined? I'm sorry for posting the GVP reports on the worng site.

Hi all No combining of the club and Group. Yahoo insisted that in the case of clubs and groups, one change their name. I have done this to prevent Yahoo! from making me and as a result we have Global Volcanism and worldvolcanism in one pair, with World Earthquakes and worldseismicity making up the other. We might go on the following format. Say posting the discussion in the worldvolcanism and worldseismicity groups while keeping the technical stuff, like the updates and notices of gatherings etc in the Global Volcanism and World Earthquakes. Sound okay? Rob

Yes, Rob, that sounds great. I'll post the Global Volcanism update on the GV group. Thanks. I wanted to check with you before I posted it. I am also going to split off the eru[tion comments from the data posts which tend to bury the much shorter personal notes. BTW, please tell us what is happening with all of those 5+ M earthquakes today! Did you feel any?

Wolfie, I can't seem to get any thing to take on my FTP attempts today. I wonder what the difficulty is, this time. I do have your orchid photos ready to FTP when I can manage to have it accept my uploads. I am doing it the way I always do and it has always worked... until now. *SIGH*

well, i've got ws ftp on my system again but still can't get into access.spring.net. am trying to use my account at geocities/yahoo for the time being but am having trouble getting in there too!

A Plague has descended on the Internet? I miss this and it means John will not be able to update his graphs. If it continues his work can be found at the following url: http://users.otenet.gr/~bm-ohexwb/invite/inviationGB.htm

From now on, you will be able to see easy my updated graphs in the Geo - Web Library. Simply click at the related link just underneath the title of Geo Conference. You will find also there, much information about the Earthquake Prediction Research and its results. John

Thanks John.

I finished the first web site of Geo - Web Library. It contains also, the Updated World Signals and information for our prediction team. Please inform me if you have any difficulty to access it or if you found some errors in it. John

*HUGS* John. Your webpage and links on the front page of Geo is excellent. Even that wonderful gif file of you and your colleagues works perfectly. What a brilliant concept!

Your accessment of yourself is far too modest. It is out of your innate modesty or some other reason. If you would let me write it... *smile*

I have finally succeeded in being able to ftp to /geo. So I made myself a file. I have no idea why the same password and username does not work on /marci. Terry, I'll email you .....!!! Has anyone see the newly acquired Greek treasure from Crete? The so-called "Ring of Minos" ??? I am busy hunting for it in every possible place I can find.

Have you thought of creating a geo main page, an index.html file that links to all your stuff and forms a centering place? I'll look at /marci.

That is John's kuleana - as we say in Hawaii (his specialty or field of command). He has spoken to me of this before, but it was still in the nebulous stage. Now that you mention it. perhaps I can impose on his time to create this for Geo. Where would we put this main page and index.html? I think it would be fantastic and much easier to navigate amongst the topics than the link below affords. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/

http://www.spring.net/geo/index.html

That link does not work for me. Is it Netscape or me?

You have to make it work! You have to create a file called index.html with links to all your other stuff and put it in geo!

Ok! Might you suggest one such page that has already been created so I have some idea of what it might look like? I only know the topic pages for conferences in Spring. Will it be like firth.com? A spearate entity?

You an be what you want to be, you can have links to all your subpages, an introduction with links to the conferences. Do you want me to rough something up for you?

Please do rough something up so we have an idea of what is possible. Perhaps John already has visions of what he thinks it might be, but we would like your ideas as well. Thanks! I have created the folder as you suggested.

I set up a sample point of departure for you, Marcia, at http://www.spring.net/geo I had to change some permissions to get it to connect with our Front Pagte navigation scheme, so we may have to tweak your ftp settings again.

Thanks, Terry. I also heard from John who is very excited to create something worthy of all that Geo encompasses. Unhappily his modem was rendered useless by lightning over the weekend and numerous power outages have made it impossible to be in contact with the world of Geo and the internet. Great graphics, Terry. Now I understand what this is all about. Many thanks. Last night I was totally unable to imagine this page. Today I am full of ideas. Thanks for your patience and great ideas! *Hugs* Ok, I will also download Front Page today. John also uses it and I know you have recommended it and have used it for Springs entry page. Tweak away - just let us know what we need to enter on the fpt program and we'll be in business.

Try it now and see if you can get in.

I got in. I still cannot download to /marci

Try it again, make sure you log in as 'geo'.

Y Be careful with Frontpage, it's easy to be in the wrong directory and over write other files. Co-ordinate your first session with me so I can do some backups ok?

OK Terry, thanks. I am emailing John your thoughts on this since he is the programmer with the brilliant ideas. I do the tweaking and refinement. As it stands now, he will create them as mock-ups and send them to me for comments. Nothing will be entered into Spring files until it is exactly the way we want it. He and I will also have back ups as much as possible. I have put the the title.html folder under geo/public. Is that where it belongs? Yes, I do login as geo. I'll give it another go. Thanks!

make that index.html ... I really did make it correctly... the only question at the moment is shall that be under geo/public?

It should be in /home/spring.net/geo/index.html I fixed your log in issues.

Thanks - and I updated John's graphic signal chart for today. /home/spring.net/geo/index.html is where it is. Thank you!

Terry, John and I cannot FTP again. Is there something wrong or lightning strikes in Austin? Help!!! Please...

Probably Frontpage, I'll fix it.

Fixed.

Mahalo!!!

I thought I was in word association for a second there.

*laugh* That happens!!! I'm glad I am not alone in this happy confusion.

Terry and John, there appears to be problem when Julie tries to post. Even when I send her the correct commands (which I later successfully post) and look at "view source" using the right mouse button, there are all sorts of things that do not belong there. Why? I even had her paste back to me via email what she had tried to post and it was correct as I posted it successfully. I do not understand. Neither does Poor Julie!

The above difficulty is when Julie tries to post a graphic image of any sort.

her web browser may automatically put stuff in there....hmmm..... marcia, do you think we should create a topic for archeaology so we can dedicate topics to the different areas of exploration? but that would make more work for you (and of course, i'm here to help as time allows). hmmm.....just a thought *HUGS*

Sure. Different from Geo 17? Please feel free to do so. I love new ideas and exploring new topics. When and if I get Don in here he will have a topic on American archaeology and what field archaeology is REALLY all about.

Terry, I just discovered http://www.walhus.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all How lovely!

Hi All, From now on you can see also your sky in our Geo Portal. -Click on Weather, Time & SKY Reports For GEO-Friends -See your time and temperature of your place together with these of the rest Friends in Geo, directly. -Click on your name and see your weather parameters and forecast for the next days. -Click on the icon that shows time/temp. on the left of your name and see the sky upwards of your head for the same moment. I will be happy to answer on any question that you maybe have. Happy sky explorations! John

John! This is brilliant. Not excuses for not kowing what is up there, now! Thanks you so much! I love the new format on the portal page, also. Just when I think you have made the most perfect page ever, you make improvements and I am even more delighted. That is quite an amazing horizontal bar. Is that also your creation or are you even more adept at borrowing the most appropriate graphics? Whatever the case, it is perfect!

waay cool!!

Yes, he is, isn't he? I wonder if he every dreamed his efforts would be considered "waaay cool" *;)

TERRY!!! Could you please link Screwed 174 to Geo conference. Mahalo plenty!

TERRY!!! Please HELP!!! Could you please check why is disappeared topic 17 from the usual lists (All and Activity within last week) of GEO? For those who interested on the archaeology topic please use the link: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/Geo/17/since/-7 John

I'll take a look.

Thanks, Terry. Now that we have an archaeologist "on staff" it might be nice to see his topic and when/if anyone has posted!

Terry, John and all concerned with Geo: I searched the totality of Geo's topics. The following are missing: Geo 11 Atmospheric disturbances: Storms and their effects on Earth Geo 12 Bioregions (Terry created this one) Geo 15 Geosites for Kids (Very active posting) Geo 16 Diagnositics - how to identify what you have found Geo 17 Archaeology (VERY important topic!!! PLEASE RESTORE!!!) Geo 27 Geomagnetism Geo 30 Geothermal Activity Geo 38 The Great Work (created by Americ Azevedo and mostly idle) Geo 43 Formation of precious stones (I have stuff to post here from Sikander)) Geo 45 Earth Medicine (Folk medicine Don and I have much to post here!) Geo 52 Geochching (Terry's) Terry, please restore these to the topic lists!

I just entered a "testing" comment in all these topics, there not missing as far as I can see. There was a wierd date thing going on with them and this, (my posting) may have fixed that.

-rw-r--r-- 1 cfadm nogroup 222816 Jul 18 15:30 _27 -rw-r--r-- 1 cfadm nogroup 59329 Jul 18 15:30 _30 -rw-r--r-- 1 cfadm nogroup 4051 Jul 18 15:30 _38 -rw-r--r-- 1 cfadm nogroup 6349 Jul 18 15:30 _43 -rw-r--r-- 1 cfadm nogroup 5156 Jul 18 15:30 _45 -rw-r--r-- 1 cfadm nogroup 3438 Jul 18 15:30 _52 -rw-r--r-- 1 cfadm nogroup 73869 Jul 18 15:31 _56

and space science news is doing that thing where once you read it, it still shows up as unread.

Please check into 17. It is the only one still misiing, and I have a real archaeologist waiting to be active if anyone can see it.

Will you take time today to post something in the Spring's news topic about the meaning and significance of September 11th? It's topic 43 in news which was started a year ago today.

Will do! I had forgotten about that. I posted several things in Geo. I'll do the flag gif also if you'd like.

Until Terry restores John's graphics on the title page of Geo, I created a simple written title.I wish I could find the command to make it bigger than h1

I can see http://www.spring.net/geo/JohnVolos/Public it's publicly readable. Can you be more specific? Please let me know what you can't see.

Bigger than h1? try font size="7" H1 Font Size 7

KEWL!!!

Awright!!!! I will replace the cover graphics John created and perhaps change the globe just for something different. Thanks!

This is not visible

I found what I think is a very neat application. If you go to http://www.wimba.com/tools/vmail/showroom.php you can record a voice email and send it to anyone you like. Send one to me! (terry@spring.net) I'd love to hear from you using this tool so I could hear you. I've been reading your posts for so long and I often wonder what the voices behind all the words are like! Tell me how your holidays are going and what you'd like to see more of on the Spring, I'll listen!

Hmmm. Will try. Eudora also has a voice mail capability!

Try it, it's very cool. Wimba.

I was unsuccessful in getting the url to open. Maybe it was during the router failure and modem reboot on the LAN here. I'll try again.

It will most likely work, eventually. You go to http://www.wimba.com. Then click at the top bar on "demos". Then pick voice mail or voice boards.

Terry, are you playing with the Spring again? I went to check who was new amongst my login memebers and it came out all strung together like a paragraph instead of a list. My buttons are also reluctant to appear, too. Hmmm...

I haven't done anything with the login members. I haven't done anything with the buttons either. Email me the specifics, ok?

It repaired itself. I wonder if it was due to the drain on the LAN at this end. All is back in order. The thing that puzzles me is that John's files are not visible on the internet so I have a make-shift title on my front page. Any idea how to fix that?

Hi Marcia and Terry Do not worry Marcia. I have a copy of these files. I can post them in a visible place. Have a good flying today John

John, I also have copies of the files. Please feel free (when you have time) to reinstall them on Geo's frontpage.

I have accounts set up for julie, tsarsvol, marci and wolf. Will y'all please email me terry@spring.net or call me 512 699 4000 and I'll pass the information to you. Being an author here just got trickier so I created a topic in web and unix conferences to help you with the transition.

It is my fondest hope that we can get all the authros and admnistrators here like Wolf, Marci, Ann H, Karen R, John T, Julie out of the twilight zone. It is is taking me a while to figure out how the new admin scheme works but it is starting to gel.

Good luck, Terry. I thought I had changed the bars and decorations back to the usual way and now I find that nothing has changed. Back I into the config and rc files to see what I did wrong

Terry, HELP!!! I am forbidden access to my files now.

Terry, I can't access these links: http://www.spring.net/geo/Conference/Public/ http://www.spring.net/marci/Public/ maybe I need to reread your letter to me telling mr where you put me.

That's becasue we're not allowing directory browsing anymore. Put an index.html file in these directories and you'll see it!

Sigh... is that another file? Before or after public?

Before public.

OK thanks. As soon as I get on the laptop again I'll do it.

Oh Terry, I amso messed up. I cannot even get into the spring with my ftp now. What do I have to do now?

We'll ifgure this out today via email or online, if you're logged in. Do you have SecureCRT?

Probably not. How does one secure on's CRT? Ahm I see it is downloadable. Which one do you suggest I install?

SecureCRT that is thename of the program.

ok I'll buy it and install it. Terry, why can't I scribble my own posts on Geo?

will all hosts be required to pay $99 for this? Oh Terry, are we that vulnerable? Most can't afford to do that.

There's a free version. I'll look it up and post it.

Geo Chat Room! Best check in times: 10 am and 4 pm Hawaii 12 am and 6 pm PST 2 pm and 8 pm CST 3 pm and 9 pm EST http://www.spring.net/geo/chat And the page even has it's own clock!

I see all the geo buttons are happy! I had to consult with Kaylene about some problems we've been having with buttons showing up. It turns out we were in "debug" mode. Don't ask me why, how, etc. because I'd have to strain too much for the answer. When I get in a real geeky mood, I'll write up a problem and fix report if it should recur. What's new? Blogs for folks (weblogs)! New web based email, you have it and don't even know it! And of course the chat room. How does that schedule work for you, Marci? You, as host, of course can change the times or even decide you don't want it since you're running the show! I just thought I'd put it up on a tryout basis. If it works, I can do some more work on it.

Thanks, Terry. It is good to know and see that my buttons are back. I have been picking out THREE trojan horse viruses out of my computer and some programs are still not working. Thanks to AOL. Arrrrrrrgh!

No wonder you've been so scarce! Sounds like you ned to install a firewall like ZoneAlarm. http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsp

hi fellow geoites *HUGS* marcia, how are you doing? not too well battling those dreaded viruses. you don't have an antivirus program?

Marci, do you want geo to be a backtalk beta test site? Jan Wolter is helping us with our system now, which is an honor. What's on your wishlist? The firewall would stop worms before they got to you.

Sure make Geo a backtalk site. Just let me know what will be happening and what I have to do. I have installed Zone Alarm. I have it on my big PC, but did not think to do it on this laptop. (The big computer is packed for shipping... just in case I am needed in Louisville....) Wish list? In what way? If you have told us all about it,I need to go backand look at your post. I seem to remember one...

I need to email you to find out how to get into Geo files with FTP. Unless it has changed, I cannot do it. I need to make that index.htm file for each one.

Sure zip me ann email and you'll get a detailed response with how to instructions. Tell me exactly what user account and all the details of what you're trying to do so I can duplicate it.

As soon as I can think clearly. I am taking new medications for stress induced high blood pressure and it is making me dizzy and makes reading and thinking even more difficult than my normal absent-mindedness. If I ever get hold of the guy who authorized windows to abandon W98 and make us use XP, I will tear his heart out. Does it have any redeeming value? I have not found it yet.

Get well soon, Marcia. I hate to think of you not being able to think clearly.

It is very frustrating. I have cut back my medications and am not monitoring my own health. Either I get a change of medications or change of doctor. Thanks for your concern! Email me. I keep getting my forwards to you back.

Windows 2000 is the most stable os going right now. I use the Server and Professional Editions. Use Projfessional unless you really need Server.

I have to replace a computer and after working to set up Don's W XP it is a nightmare. Is W 2000 still available?

I'm pretty sure it is.

Thank goodness Windows 2000n is still available. Before you replace your W 98 computer wait till they fix the difficulties with Windows XP. It is miserable!!!

A dual boot Win 98SE and Windows 2000 system is a good solution if you want to be able to boot in to another os in case of a crash. It makes it easier to rebuild. I have a lot of systems running Win 98 and Win 2000 server.

This laptop has W 98 Second Edition (SE)though I fear my big much traveledPC does not. How does one get a copy of older Windows? My SE was installed by my son from his CD. In my case, the hard drive broke and I had no Windows at all to install.

If you're really serious about staying current with windows, join msdn. It's a few hundred a year but you get every single release of windows and every supporting toolkit.

I am waiting for the healing of the XP with a second edition of that one. It is a mess. I like - very much - how W 98 SE performs. I don't want their new updated stuff that works worse than the one it supplanted! Now, only XP and NT are available at my sources.

It's kind of a mess, but you can run it in traditional windows mode if you don't like it's cutseyness.

The archaeolgist has the professional XP on his new computer and it went blank on him already. It is very difficult to work. The personal one is better and I am learning so I can untangle what he might do in the future! I truly appreciate your input!

I was trying to use XP as a router to distribute my satellite feed but it kept shutting down and crashing, now I have it on a stable Windows 2000 box. And I have my laptop back for mobile operations which I need it for!

so far, knock on wood, XP personal works but not if you want to do websites and stuff. no ftp, no frontpage, no powerpoint or excel spreadsheets to speak of. am a bit lost with the two os's at once bit, won't they try to kill each other?

YOu can use ftp and frontpage with xp. And Office will run with Personal XP.

i realize that i can use ftp and frontpage but the programs aren't part of the package--they're separate (unless you have something different).

I hate the fact that word documents from all other windows OS can work on any computer but the XP. Images are also difficult. Back to the design table, Mr Gates!

I need help picking which colored google ad is the most pleasing. Will you please help me out by visiting this page and clicking on the ad which has the color scheme that you find to be most pleasing? You would make my day and make me very, very happy if you would do this, please. http://www.spring.net/adsense Just click on the ad with the color scheme you find most pleasing and I'll announce the results based on my page stats. Thanks in advance for helping with this!

With nothing to go on but the names, it is difficult. I'm with Wolfie on the Blue Whale! (Green taffy???? Ick...)

Fresh Mint is the clear winner. Contest over. But you can still click on the ads on Spring's main page. Every time you do we get at least 50 cents.

I'll do it! Green mint. Juleps, anyone?!