~terry
Fri, Sep 21, 2001 (19:07)
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So what can we do? What should we do? The response.
We should probably take Bin Laden out if we can find him, that's a big if
though. And there are thousands of other terrorists in nooks and crannies
all over the world, many of them are just like the guy next door, waiting
in hibernation to bust out in some satanic act.
What *are* our options?
What can we do? What should we do?
5 new of
~ekelley
Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (21:46)
#1
Hey, everyone.
As much as I'd like to see bin Laden taken out, I'm not sure that it would be best to do it immediately. One of the pundits on MSNBC tonight suggested that it might be better to have the Northern Alliance capture him, then have Islamic nations try him for "crimes against Islam," and then hand him over to the west. Once he would be handed over to the west, it might be best to try him in a world court for crimes against America, rather than try him here on US soil, where there would be further threat of terrorist attacks. I mean, God forbid, we were to hold him in one of our jails (even if we didn't disclose which one) and his terrorist buddies started just randomly attacking sites here... it might just be better to try him at some world court (apologies to the Hague [sp?] as it would likely fall to them) and then convict him and publicly execute him. Then it might not look so much like the big bully US coming and rounding up the self-proclaimed defender of Islam...
What do you all think?
~terry
Mon, Oct 1, 2001 (22:55)
#2
I think you've hit on the right plan. I don't know if you've been following the comments of David Kline elsewhere in this conference, but I posted something he said today that closely parallels this in the David Kline topic. He's been a war correspondent in Afghanistan and knows about the Islamic mindset.
It's topic 54 in the news conference.
The fact that we aren't doing anything rash to anger the Islamic world is a wise move.
~terry
Tue, Oct 2, 2001 (16:49)
#3
Here is a long article on the pitiful state of affairs
in the CIA, by by Seymour M. Hersh in the New Yorker
http://www.newyorker.com/FACT/
~terry
Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (06:59)
#4
MIT Technology Review online
December 2001 issue
SPECIAL SECTION: TECHNOLOGY VS. TERROR
http://www.techreview.com/magazine/dec01/mag_toc.asp
Articles abstracts:
Detecting Bioterrorism
By David Talbot
Lives could be saved by sensors and therapies now under
development�along with software that could help distinguish
an anthrax assault from an outbreak of the flu.
Networking the Infrastructure
By Wade Roush
New classes of detectors, plus safer building designs,
point to an "intelligent city" that senses danger.
Will Spyware Work?
By Kevin Hogan
Monitoring voice and e-mail traffic sounds like a good way
to thwart terrorism. The problem? Sorting through the results
takes too long for early warning.
Recognizing the Enemy
By Alexandra Stikeman
Creating a central database of photos to identify terrorists
through face recognition is a bureaucratic nightmare.
Essay: The Shock of the Old
By Edward Tenner
On September 11, a nation primed for a futuristic attack failed
to foresee a low-tech assault. Why?
~terry
Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (14:18)
#5
A very interesting piece in the New Republic on the FBI's need to start
gathering "strategic intelligence" as opposed to simply short-term
tactical info., By that, the author means doing more what the CIA does (or
is supposed to do) -- spot trends, look for patterns, etc.
Here's an excerpt:
"A smart intelligence analyst, looking at emerging trends in Islamist
terrorism, might have predicted that terrorists would try to hijack
airplanes and crash them into buildings. After all, September 11 may have
been the first time terrorists carried out the strategy successfully, but
it was not the first time they tried it. In 1994 hijackers from the Armed
Islamic Group--which is affiliated with Al Qaeda--hijacked an Air France
jet in Algiers and apparently planned to crash it into the Eiffel Tower,
but failed when French commandos stormed the plane when it stopped for
refueling. In 1995 Filipino authorities detected a Manila-based Al Qaeda
cell's plan to blow up eleven American airliners in mid-flight and crash a
twelfth into the CIA headquarters.
"With that terrorist m.o. in mind, and recognizing that the plot would
only work if one of the terrorists involved could fly a jetliner, the
analyst might have advised agents to keep an eye on flight schools that
offered such training. At the very least, a good analyst--thinking along
these lines--might have raised alarm bells at FBI headquarters in August
when agents from the Minneapolis field office began investigating
Moussaoui, whose suspicious behavior had led his instructors at a
Minnesota flight school to contact the bureau. The Minneapolis agents had
arrested Moussaoui on an immigration violation and--after getting a lead
from French intelligence that he had ties to bin Laden--had asked
headquarters in Washington for permission to seek a national security
search warrant that would allow them go through Moussaoui's computer. But
FBI lawyers denied the request for a search that might have tipped off the
bureau to the September 11 plot."
See the full article at:
http://www.thenewrepublic.com/123101/zengerle123101.html