Microsoft NetMeeting for Windows 95

~terry Wed, Jul 24, 1996 (11:08) seed

Microsoft NetMeeting for Windows 95 -- NetMeeting is Microsoft's attempt to capitalize on the ever popular Internet communications market, specifically real-time audio-based communications. With NetMeeting you can call people from around the world using Microsoft's online user directory. Communication can take place on several levels, including full or half-duplex audio (depending on your sound card's capabilities), whiteboard conferencing, application sharing, and text-based chatting. Additionally, NetMeeting allows for files and sound clips to be transferred between users. NetMeeting also continues the 'Favorites' motif found in its popular web browser, Internet Explorer. Favorites are similar to bookmarked web sites, but in NetMeeting they function as bookmarked callers that you can quickly and easily call back. NetMeeting is foremost designed to be a conferencing application, allowing groups of users (regardless of location) to work together efficiently and productively. Perhaps one of NetMeeting's strongest features in this area and definitely one of its most unique is the ability to 'share' any application -- you can work with another user from any location as long as the application to be shared is running on at least one platform. Remote control of an application is one feature you just have to see in order to understand its importance to the 'net conferencing scene. While NetMeeting is only in its initial beta release, aside from its application sharing capabilities, it is still somewhat of a disappointment considering its source. Relative to its competition, NetMeeting is surprisingly slow and lacks many critical features. VDOPhone's real-time video capabilities; Speak Freely and Televox's advanced compression and encryption options; Internet Phone and WebPhone's call waiting, caller ID support, and voice mail; and CyberPhone and Speak Freely's cross-platform compatibility are just a few of the superior features found in similar product offerings. At this point in time, NetMeeting manages to claim a spot in the middle of the pack for Internet Phone clients, once again primarily for its superior conferencing features. Like Televox, being a free application helps, but with so many strong competitors, it will likely be tough for NetMeeting to carve out a niche in a category that already includes so many popular clients. The final analysis -- Microsoft will be hard-pressed to take NetMeeting to the top of the class in this competitive market. Pros: Application sharing and whiteboard conferencing, real-time audio communication capabilities Cons: Slow and buggy; lacks many important features found in competitive products New: This is the initial review for NetMeeting Version Reviewed: 1.0 Beta 1 Date of Review: 7/3/96 Reviewer: Forrest Stroud Entered 7/7/96

~Gordon Tue, Aug 13, 1996 (07:32) #1

Is this program only going to work for Win 95 or will you be able to call people cross platform ie 3.1?

~jpropst Wed, Sep 4, 1996 (23:37) #2

The program is also supposed to work with PictureTel's LiveShare program which runs on their videoconferencing systems. This suggests a video capability may be coming soon; particularly since Microsoft bought into PictureTel.

~NY2001AD Wed, Nov 6, 1996 (20:05) #3

I would love to know if there is a method to not only receive a posted response to this message but perhaps an E-mail message sent to my address: ny2001ad@interport.net. I ask because this is my first posted message and I'm just not sure if I'll be able to keep myself up-to-date on all the areas I visit. Nevertheless, what alternative applications do you suggest in lieu of NetMeeting? Thanks much!

~terry Wed, Nov 6, 1996 (22:46) #4

We have some conferences set up to email folks stuff that gets posted, but not this one. However, if you take the time to build your own conference list. You only get to see the new stuff that's posted since the last time you visited the conference. This software kind of grows on you.

~terry Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (13:16) #5

Amy and I are taking our first baby steps at using NetMeeting. In fact, we did a first today. We both posted a response in a conference topic interactively. You can find me at uls1.microsoft.com most of the time and, if you're an html coder or system a dmin type, we may be able to work collaborately on some project on the Spring using Netmeeting. I was blown away this morning to wake up, bleary eyed, walk over to my computer and see someone else working on it (it was Amy). At first I really thought that I had entered the twilight zone! This *is* the current killer app!

~terry Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (13:17) #6

For more discussion of NetMeeting, from a different perspective: http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/respond/austen/53/new

~terry Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (16:00) #7

First base for NetMeeting: http://www.microsoft.com/netmeeting/

~terry Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (17:14) #8

How are you using NetMeeting? Our you finding it productive?

~Kris Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (18:43) #9

I've only really just begun to use netmeeting. As a programmer, being able to work with the others in my team at any time is important. I haven't really done any extensive work with netmeeting, but the sample work I have done with 2 other members of my team prove to be useful. However, the constant "bickering" over control is going to be a hassle.

~terry Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (18:49) #10

I've found that too. Amy and I were literally having a wrestling match over the cursor in our session the other day. But it's also been extremely useful to be able to talk to colleagues, work interactively on applications, draw on a whitebaord and engage in text chat all at the same time. It's pretty awesome when you think about it.

~candie Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (22:35) #11

I feel that netmeeting can help companies with a small budget cut some of their long distance and traveling expences. As a Internet Publisher I have customers all over and traveling to their offices and long distance costs can take it toll on budget. I use email whenever possible but sometimes you need to interact on a project more closely then that and thats when I like to use neetmeeting. It lets us look at the same thing at the same time and make changes together. It can be cumbersome if your are j st using a 28.8 KB modem but most of our customers have our load balanced servers and are running at 57.6 KB or higher so it tends to run pretty smooth. Overall if you and the people you are conferencing with have the bandwidth it makes a lot of sense t o use netmeeting as much as possible.

~terry Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (22:50) #12

Candie, it sounds like you're making good use of NetMeeting in a productive way. A lot of folks are still in the "hello out there" phase. What type of publishing do you do? And can you give some specific examples of how you use it?

~Jianlin Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (00:41) #13

Now I am using NetMeeting V2.0 Beta 1. Many people joined my conference, but I only know his/ her name, don't know he/she come from or other information. So I think if the NetMeeting can let me inquiry others information and automatically/mannul create Sp eedDial when somebody joins, it's very good. Maybe now it can do it, but I don't know. If you know, could you tell me? Thanks!

~terry Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (08:03) #14

I don't know the answer right off the bat, but I'll look at this next time I check in to NetMeeting. Important - Look for an annoucement of an *add on product* for NetMeeting here soon. It's an interface that will connection NetMeeting to your home telephone or to a mobile radio in your car or cellular phone.

~Profdav Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (11:41) #15

Terry, tell me more about this! Philip Davenport

~terry Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (12:12) #16

To Microsoft NetMeeting and learn more, go to http://www.microsoft.com/netmeeting

~LopezVG Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (12:03) #17

I am the Marketing responsible at Unisys Spain. I already have dowloaded Beta 2. I find NetMeeting an amazing tool. Beyond the audio facilities (we have a world -wide corporate telephone network), what I find really impressive is the application sharin g/collaborative features. This funtionality allows our sales & marketing departments to deliver remote training, share presentation/proposal building, P&L discussions, Sales activity monitoring, and IT support to our powerful Mobile Office strategy. Thanks and best regards, Gregorio

~dag44 Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (09:19) #18

I have recently discovered netmeeting and in a few days time have worked through all the versions,,,now in Beta2. One re accuring question of mine is how do I get the speed dial to work?? All I ever see in the pull down menu is greyed out choices...In the first version,,,as I was stumbling around I looked at it and the callers were already logged. What do I need to do....Perhaps you, or Microsoft need to have a person hooked in to each uls to guide us novices through!

~candie Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (19:45) #19

I am a Web Publisher, I create mostly commercial web sites. My clients are from all around Indiana. Email and Netmeeting are my main lanes of communication with these clients. We use two server for our websites, a local one and our actual Web server. I work on the local server and when I am ready I mirror the information to the Web server. I use Netmeeting to let my clients see the work locally on my machine for finalization before major mirrors. If you would like to see some examples of my work th main site is a http://www.imagestream.com and my newest site is http://www.books2buy.com. Candie Yoder

~terry Mon, Dec 9, 1996 (21:09) #20

Thanks Candie. I'll take a look at your websites. And feel free to explore the other conferences on the Spring, esp. the web in the internet conferences.

~klee Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (01:19) #21

Hello!

~klee Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (01:21) #22

Hello! Can Netmeeting conference with mutliple user on voice? I would like to know how to do it..... thank you

~terry Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (01:37) #23

I'm almost certain that it can although I haven't actually done this yet. Let's get together and try this sometime soon with a group of folks. Does anyone want to set up a time and date to try this?

~hagman Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (01:43) #24

Well I have been very interested in using netmeeting for work. I am an applications engineer for solidworks (a CAD pakage) this is just the thing to make life lots easyer. BUT it doesn't seem to work under NT4.0 I like what I see but it is just not there yet Is the full version going to support NT??

~hagman Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (01:44) #25

~kjh Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (03:22) #26

Hi~~~~*.^

~mertalt Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (05:55) #27

Dear Terry; I am the foreign trade manager of a "Computer Solution Concepts - Beckdata". Our headquarters is in Istanbul, Turkey. As you can imagine I am not a computer genie. I use my pc in order to fulfill my responsibilities at work and I like it. My reason to get started with Netmeeting is very unique: I deal with a number of technology producing companies all around the world. I have to make at least 20 intl.' calls a day. Last week I received an e-mail from an imports representative. This japanese lady was asking me, because of curriosity, was may company doing financially so well that we were calling them everyday; rather than using Netmeeting. She was right. Since than I am giving at least 2 hours a day in order to learn it. Unfortunately I am praying to succeed in voice contact. I could not find anybody using netmeeting in Turkey. Even Microsoft Turkey could not assist me. That's way I am looking for some help in the internet arena. In case you want to help me; my e-mail is mertalt@kilim.com.tr Sincerely. Mert S. Altinbasak

~Bloodlust Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (18:54) #28

Does anyone know if there are any other ways of having the same type of chat you get on NetMeeting (real-time)? And I was also wondering if there are other uls's other than uls1-5.micro... if there are more than the six that come with the programme could someone please tell me how to access them. send me a response at bernard@pssnet.com Thanks, B

~terry Fri, Dec 13, 1996 (22:16) #29

I'm not sure. I believe others can run private servers. Anyone know?

~idavies Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (13:14) #30

I'm working on an idea to use NM to enable relatives round the world to videomeet (I take my machine to their home here in UK and arrange similar for their relatives abroad - e.g. old folks here - grandchildren abroad maybe?) Quality not quite there yet but with 56kbps coming and using a fast pentium I believe it to be viable. I can also and have many times sent video to two other users simultaneously - not sure if more than two (i.e. conference of 4 or more)is possible but still trying. Any useful comments welcome.

~terry Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (13:50) #31

It's possible to have more than two, but I'm not sure how well the audio holds up, it shouldn't be a problem.

~DavidGo Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (17:09) #32

In reference to the question about multiple voices in conferece, Netmeeting appears to support only the first two people in a conference with voice. The others who join the conference can share and collaborate applications, but not voice. I find that NM 2.0 Beta1 often crashes when I do some things in Internet Explorer. Haven't been able to make it happen under controlled circumstances so I haven't reported it as a Beta problem. I have been using Netmeeting to play Scrabble as a shared application with voice. Works great. I am amazed at the speed of the screen updates and the cursor motion. Scrabble anyone?

~terry Sat, Dec 14, 1996 (17:51) #33

Sure, I'll pay ya'. Connect to me at terry@spring.com. Be sure to holler though, cause I may not see you connect.

~MEgabiT Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (15:01) #34

Hello Terry, Just a word of introduction. I run a small business of my own here in Poland, we are CAD/CAM/CAE specialists in the mechanical industry with special interest in plastics. We are the Polish VAR for Computervision (a high-end CAD/CAM package called CADDS 5) and the Polish Distributor for Moldflow (plastic injection analysis software). I have been using NetMeeting for a couple of weeks now, but frankly, not for business purposes. Rather making friends... However, I do see a lot of opportunities for using NM in my business once the Internet is matured in Poland. Before that, I can imagine using its features in my professional contacts with Computervision and Moldflow, but they haven't adopted it yet, or at least I don't know about it... Merry Christmas to everyone Peter

~terry Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (15:20) #35

There are a couple of companies in Austin that may interest you that do 3 dimensional modeling. I know about them through my website authoring business. One of these is http://www.acceltechinc.com and my main contact person is Jim Rollins. He's with a new company now that does stuff similar to what Accelerated Technologies does. How do you like life in Poland? And Merry Christmas to you!

~MEgabiT Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (15:33) #36

Terry, Just to notify you I read your response and am finding this conference great... I will talk to you about life in Poland in greater extent really soon; glad you're interested. But right now I've gotta go - my wife is WAITING!

~terry Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (16:11) #37

OK. Meet me over in the travel conference next time you log in. I'll open up a Poland topic over there. OK?

~MEgabiT Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (03:30) #38

OK! Do you think that many people in the States will be intersted?

~fidel Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (15:10) #39

Hello! I'v found Net Meeting very interesting. I don't use it as a business tool and, in fact, i didn't realise about this feature. I live in Spain, and i use it to chat with people wo live very far from me, like Tokio, US, Australia. I'm only very impressed by the possibility of talking with them. Merry Christmas for everybody.

~tsyknk Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (17:08) #40

Hello Terry, I've just downloaded NM beta2 yesterday. Some new features are available from beta2, but sadly my PC cannot afford to run some of them. ( My PC is sub-note type and has a little old-fashioned CPU, i486 DX2.) I think it very useful and fun to use NM on the internet. I'm now using it to communicate many people around the world. I plan to buy new PC this coming January. Please give some advices; 1) What is important to run NM or IE quickly? 2) Which is better, desktop-type or laptop-type? May joy and peace be yours throughout the holiday season & coming year! Happy New Year !

~RespondSB Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (21:17) #41

Hi Terry, I just downloaded MN2.0b2 the other day and was messing about when you saw me. Thanks for the invitation to join up. I didn't get NM for business purposes. I have relatives living in Germany and NM is the third internet phone program that we have used to save money on international calls. We first were using Cyberphone and for some reason it started giving us some problems. We then went to TeleVox which worked better, but they were having problems on their end and suggested we try NM. After loading it the other day, I found out their server was down and so we haven't had the opportu ity to try the voice capabilities yet. I'm thinking of getting a new 16 bit full duplex sound card to replace my old Soundblaster Pro. Any recommendations? I may contact some of my fellow Respond distributors around the US who are on line and see if this may help in getting info around our association. Respond Systems is an OSHA compliance company providing service, training, and products to keep our customers out of harms (OSHA) way. Look forward to talking to you later. Bob

~RespondSB Mon, Dec 16, 1996 (21:20) #42

Side note that I forgot in the above message. Happy Holidays and Peace to all!

~MEgabiT Tue, Dec 17, 1996 (10:36) #43

Hi It seems I have triggered the Christmas Holidays wishes - didn't suppose new messages arrive so often here taht it was far too early! Anyway, I have two points: 1. NM 2 Beta 2 is ABSOLUTELY not stable. Have used Beta 1 without freezings, problems with logging or reading the ULS's etc. 2. In the area that NM has advantages over other Internet telephony programs (sharing appps, video etc.) - well, one has to have a really fast machine and connection. Otherwise it's just a pie in the sky

~rtd Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (00:25) #44

Hi, I'm a recent entrant to this discussion - and to NM. Would it be a good idea for the responses to identify the NM database for contact purposes (or am I so new that it's actually obvious to everyone else). Regards (and Merry Christmas and Happ and safe New year to all from the land of Oz) Russ

~terry Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (00:42) #45

Good idea... terry@spring.com

~morarre Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (18:51) #46

OK, So most of you like NetMeeting. That puts me in the minority. So far I have found it to be rather ineffective with the audio. I tried vers. 1 and quickly updated to beta 2. I am conducing test with some colleagues over a very high speed line (10 MB) and still the sound breaks up. The couple of calls from other places that I have accepted were disassters-- audio un-intelligible. Here is what I have found out so far-- it seems the full-duplex capability causes more problems (echos, unintential drop outs) than half duplex. So don't spend your money on a full-duplex sound card just for netmeeting. On the other hand, the video is OK and the white board is nice. The application sharing is where I think this app is most useful. However, it would be better if the audio didn't suffer when you were sharing an application that took considerable horsepower. And beware anything less han a Pentium processor (I mean at the other end.) It will be rather slow. ----tam PS: Terry, thanks for inviting me in.

~terry Fri, Dec 20, 1996 (23:01) #47

I have yet to try a video connection. But I hope to make a hookup this weekend sometime.

~DJMasterK Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (10:25) #48

Yeah, I like Netmeeting a lot. Thanks for inviting me. I haven't heard anyone in my speakers, yet, though! But I was able to speak and other people have been able to hear me.

~terry Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (10:56) #49

What kind of speakers and sound card are you using?

~terry Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (12:20) #50

Update on download and website locations. The download area for TransSoft 3.0: ftp://ftp.centrum.is/pub/TransSoft/tmc325.exe And the website is: http://www.centrum.is/~bhg Bjorn, could you please post directions for getting it to load from Explorer's Mail icon?

~Ron Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (12:46) #51

Terry: Thanks for the invitation to participate. The jury is still out on NetMeeting as far as I am concerned. I do not believe that Beta2 has the same stability as Beta1 offered. One of the more frustrating things is that communicating in North America works well however the success rate in working voice into eastern Europe leaves a little to be desired. Sometimes it comes back with the note that the party at the other end is not running NetMeeting and other times advises that the party does not have audio. This is difficult when you know for a fact they are running the same program and same version of it. Will keep you posted what longer term thoughts are. Season Greetings from Canada

~JEDI Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (12:53) #52

I like Netmeeting. Is the only program of this kind that I use on my PC. I've known several people there and meet some friends. Me gusta y lo encuentro interesante.

~terry Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (13:27) #53

I tried to hook up to Amy today but it wouldn't connect perhaps because she is still running 1.0 and I'm running the latest beta. I tend to agree that the reliability and compatibility has gone down and hopefully there will be a more bulletproof release soon.

~Huckle2 Sat, Dec 21, 1996 (15:32) #54

Terry, thanks for the invitation to the conference. I enjoy NetMeeting but just downloaded the Beta 2 version a few moments ago. I'll let you know how that goes. Sound quality is very poor, but it's my sound card...not top of the line ya know. When I try the tuning wizard, i get a message telling me my card is not compatible and I may not be able to use the audio feature. Well,I use it anyway, other folks can hear me just fine...need to upgrade that sound card one day!! I can see how the file sharin /colabirate will come in handy...especially when working with a new spreadsheet that others need to learn. I enjoy it for the chatting as well...trying to get my brother and nephew on it but they can't seem to get it to work in AOL. Any thoughts. Merry Christmas to everyone! Randy

~profi Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (05:55) #55

hi from italy! I have no experience with NetMeeting - unfortunately I have no time to dedicate to this interesting institution. I would like to test it and after present it on our fair from january 20th to january 24th. Can somebody give me some ideas what how we can present netmeeting on the fair?? Happy new year to everybody Robert from Italy

~megabit Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (14:34) #56

Here are some excerpts from my NetMeeting MS Newsgroup messages. I believe they convey the message.... _______ OK so my system is Pentium 120 48 MB RAM 2GB disk IE 3.01 US 14.4 AT&T modem.... So what? EVERYTHING but Beta 2 works fine on it, including NM 1.0 and NM 2.0 Beta 1 to which I have returned... Guys, we are being treated like laboratory rabbits by Microsoft. Beta 2 is certainly more buggy than any other software I have ever seen released, but since we didn't pay for it, there's noone to help us. Come on, be more proud! If MS (Tim Schreck!!!) doesn't respond to this message, I am coming back to Netscape as the default browser and WebPhone as the conference - telephony tool. For those of you who share my opinion, here is the link to another MS-independent stuff that works absolutely perfect - and is free, too: http://www.mirabilis.com/products.html -- Piotr Wozniacki, President MEgabiT CAD/CAE Ltd. Computervision VAR, Moldflow Distributor e-mail: MEgabiT@intertele.pl John P. Chambers wrote This could be due to any number of things. I think you should post further information on your configuration and your machine, modem brand etc., Pentium, amt. of ram, etc. Note that most people are running it OK so it becomes a matter of finding out why it doesn't mix with your machine. -- Piotr Wozniacki (MEgabiT@intertele.pl) wrote in article Hi I have been posting messages on Beta 2 behaviour for weeks. Apart from freezing and alike (it always comes up again, so forget it), I NEVER am able to read the whole ULS directory. The process of "connecting to..." ends with entries beginning with "a" or "b" and Beta 2 displays it's usual idle state "not in a call" message. I reinstalled Windows, IE 3.01 and NetMeeting - still the same problem. Maybe somebody from MS could answer what I should do? -- Piotr Wozniacki, President MEgabiT CAD/CAE Ltd. Computervision VAR, Moldflow Distributor e-mail: MEgabiT@intertele.pl _______________________________________________ PS. The only advantage that NM is offering over other conferencing stuff is aplication sharing. But be frank - with most of our connection and machines speed, it is good maybe for viewing xxx-pics, nothing else... I certainly cannot share the CAE Moldflow software with my customers, even though some of them have 128 ISDN connections and Pentium Pro 200 machines. So, unless MS responds, forget the NM and leave it for the many gays and lesbians oh-so-wet and hard and lusty out there on the ULS servers! Piotr Wozniacki, President MEgabiT CAD/CAE Ltd. Computervision VAR, Moldflow Distributor e-mail: MEgabiT@intertele.pl

~terry Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (20:47) #57

What is the name of the product you mention at http://www.mirabilis.com/products.html ? How would you rate it?

~nadja Fri, Jan 24, 1997 (15:04) #58

Aside from some esoteric computer terminology, devotedly delicious.

~terry Fri, Jan 24, 1997 (22:38) #59

Welcome to our group, Nadja.

~megabit Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (15:11) #60

The product from Mirabilis I recommended in my last message is called ICQ and is an excellnet toll to monitor who of your pals is online at any given moment. Terry, I have sent you the link to their download page, but you haven't loaded or installed it! Please do - it's realy worth it... What is specially appealing about ICQ is that once you spot one of your friends on line, you can: chat with him send him e message transfer a file or whole URL invoke any of the teleconferencing programs you and he/she has installed (NM, WebPhone, VDOPhone, Cu-Seeme etc) And, it's FREE! Once you have it, please let me know and maybe set up a discussion forum about it Peter

~terry Sat, Jan 25, 1997 (19:32) #61

ICQ is enough of a killer app to have it's own topic and, in fact, Forrest has done just that. He has set up a topic for it. I believe it's 333 on the topic list. Would you enter some comments there to kick off a discussion. Our Spring workgroup is now using ICQ after an attempt to use NetMeeting. We'll revisit NetMeeting at the next release and see if it's more stable, more reliable and more intuitive. ICQ is limited in functionality but it's rock solid at connecting folks up.

~terry Sun, Mar 1, 1998 (10:49) #62

I talked with several people on NetMeeting recently, but I'm still not using it to it's full extent as a collaborative workplace tool, which is my goal. A list of folks: Mohamad Kairi - Malaysia, island of Langkawi Dennis Dorotinsky Wawa Uha - a UT student Joseph Hawley Gustavo Bermudez Christopher Golson Howard Gleichman Mike Bleau Allen Callaghan Jim Looking Rick Howard Eric J. Jerry Robinson Dean Burris Harry n Desiree Laurent Urbon Bob Delano Ryan Martin Jeff Tubo etc...

~nhomero Fri, Jun 4, 1999 (17:43) #63

I have been using NetMeeting for a short time (1 month or so) and it use to be relatively easy to log on into a server. But nowadays, it is almost impossible to log on into any server. Does anybody else is experiencing the same problem? Has anybody heard anything regarding upgrades of the servers capacity? Thanks.

~robert Sun, Jun 6, 1999 (01:25) #64

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~sprin5 Sun, May 14, 2000 (09:21) #65

Check out this url: http://www.microsoft.com/netmeeting

~MarciaH Sun, May 14, 2000 (13:26) #66

I checked it out. You really don't want to see me on your monitor - at least first thing in the morning - and I do not have the camera involved, but are you sure enough for me to download another program with which to commune with you? How does this differ from the three types of Instant Messaging programs already in place?

~sprin5 Mon, May 15, 2000 (09:43) #67

Video is optional. I just wanted you to compare it to webex, if you're up for this.

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (11:58) #68

Ok, I am indeed up for it - but do not have webex either. What is its full name so I can hunt for the download? (Webex's, that is...)

~sprin5 Mon, May 15, 2000 (13:44) #69

You don't download webex, it runs in a browser window, you just have to fill out their form at http://www.webex.com and request a demo.

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (14:52) #70

OK, I am downloading it in another window though it suggests on their computer search that my conection to the Internet is "poor" We'll see. Let you know when it is up and ready for action.

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (14:53) #71

request a demo?? oh...*sigh* The navigation around that site leaves much to be desired!

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (15:30) #72

Next demo is in 1/2 hour if I judge the time correctly.

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (16:08) #73

I am accessing it right now...anyone there I will know???

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (16:46) #74

Was that you on the webex with me? And Conrad? Beware, the spread sheets took me by surprise and I was not ready - along with inhouse interference which made me get out of the demo. It works well, but I think IM works much more easily though do not know about haveing other than 2 people at a time. Btw, is the 402 area code a toll call and where is the location. That can be debilitating from Hawaii to the east coast for 45 minutes!

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (17:49) #75

We'll never get the rest of the drool world to agree with going through the spread sheet humiliation. I know how to use excel, but with house male in one ear getting more testy by the moment and prompts on screen from Conrad, I finally quit. I HATE looking stupid before God and everybody!!!

~sprin5 Mon, May 15, 2000 (21:40) #76

I don't think you got a good first impression. Spreadsheets aren't required. Maybe we should try NetMeeting first.

~MarciaH Mon, May 15, 2000 (21:45) #77

Was that you on when I was? There was a Paul listed and then someone named Jack who was not listed as participant whisked around the spreadsheet like a pro. I was doomed this morning. Tomorrow, I down load netMeeting if I have not yet and see how it goes. Tonight I am being taken to dinner for Mother's Day (if you can believe it!)

~sprin5 Tue, May 16, 2000 (14:33) #78

Wasn't me, you'll have to notify me well in advance of the time. But I'll be happy to join in.

~MarciaH Tue, May 16, 2000 (14:51) #79

There really is not much I want to return for. The whiteboard (what they call the message board) is straight-forward and easy to use but, so are others. As soon as I eat some thing so my brain is in gear, I'll try the netmeeting download and let you know when I am ready for a test run (provided I am not needed elsewhere this morning...)

~sprin5 Thu, May 18, 2000 (14:58) #80

Let me know when you're ready for a test.

~MarciaH Thu, May 18, 2000 (15:29) #81

Last night I downloaded and installed ICQ and remembered why I deleted it previously - everything was working like it was stuck in glue. May have to uninstall it again, but I need to talk to someone in the dark of night when the rest of the world is gone from Spring... Downloading NetMeeting now - be with you as soon as it all gets here and is up. I'll let you know!

~MarciaH Thu, May 18, 2000 (15:42) #82

I am most disappointed - and concerned. It will not install NetMeeting 4.0 on my computer unless they install IE 4.0 here as well. Is this absolutely necessary? I like netscape. I have generations of excellent bookmarks on my Netscape, programmed hot buttons on the task bar which takes me directly to the conference topics I use the most. Why would I want to install IE 4.0???

~MarciaH Thu, May 18, 2000 (15:42) #83

Suggestions? Is there an earlier version which does not require IE? No one in Drool will use it if it means downloading IE - just to warn you...!

~sprin5 Thu, May 18, 2000 (22:14) #84

It requires IE?

~MarciaH Fri, May 19, 2000 (20:59) #85

When I click on the install file a box pops up saying it cannot be used without IE being installed and it could not find IE on this computer.

~sprin5 Sat, May 20, 2000 (00:42) #86

Hmm, I guess then it must be a prereq. Usually IE is on most Windows systems by default. Maybe you have an earlier version of IE?

~MarciaH Sat, May 20, 2000 (01:46) #87

Nope! None at all. I deleted every last bit of the program by hand to get rid of it. Perhaps I should download that again when/if I can ever get Norton Utilities to allow me to get online.