ha-ha! My mum also used to practically kill us over beating each other up when we were little, but now she says her job is finished; if, after 24 years we still feel want to resort to physical means to settle our nonsense, then it's not her fault, but due to the fact that we're a bunch of idiots!

She has a point. (about her job being done) However my family expects adults to behave, if not you will be ostracised at the very least. Yelling is O K but physical violence is not allowed. It's a whole lot easier to forgive someone for yelling at you, than for the black eye.

That's true. With us the 'physicals' are more play than anything else now. We go crazy when we get together. Wrestling and burping and stuff. My kids think their mummy's gone mad every time I see my sister and/or brother. I have the greatest brother in the world.

Let's see - do I apply formally to become host again? And I have a question or two: I am 25 (as of tomorrow), a studying underdog, my hair really needs a wash, and broke - does that mean I get a discount on the application fee?

Happy Birthday, Riette!!

Thank you!

I would like to invite all visitors of this conference to the International Conflicts conference here on the Spring: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/InternationalConflicts/all This new conference is dedicated to the disputes between groups all over the world, be that social, cultural, political or ethnical differences.

Thanks, Alexander!

Any time! ;=}

You should come to inner.

Huh?

I have come to know an (words defy my writing how incredible this man is) outstanding artist who lurks on Spring from time to time, and another very special artist who would like this to become a forum for professional artist to discuss techniques, media, and projects among other things. Would this be possible? Something needs to jump start this conference, and Ree is busy for the foreseeable future in becoming a lawyer. Suggestions, please?!

Perhaps I should just tell them this conference exists and let them go from there. I could create one called "technique" but that might not be appropriate to their wishes. Just because I cannot create greatness does not mean I do not appreciate the effort and angst in giving birth to a work of art on any level. These people of whom I speak have had professional shows, their work displayed in galleries and purchased by private and public sources. However, since our artist in residence is now in law school, we need another to take her place or at least be willing to post now and then on the subject. (Do not apply for the position, Tim!) Is there anything that I can do other than to be a sincere and dedicated cheerleader who appreciates how incredibly difficult it is to bare your soul by hanging it on the wall for all to see?

marcia, i don't know how to jumpstart this place. but we do have artcentaur.com waiting for us to use. we have a committee too (guess who's been given the honor of chairing? me, and i've been lowsy at it too). and i'm another cheerleader for those who brave the sharks of critiques and those who do not appreciate the effort it takes to stand naked before all.

You do know! But, I have seen your work and you are an artist, too. You have not devoted the hours and blood, sweat and tears (not to mention the years of education) that the other have, perhaps, but it was just as difficult for you to post your art as it was to post my bit of fiction...and continues to be for the comsumate professionals I mentioned above. We are each vulnerable when it represents so much of our being. *hugs* to all who are brave enough to do it so the likes of people like me may be enriched by your vision.

Gi has expressed an interest in this and hoped originally that was what this conference would be all about. She would paricipate. I shall ask the gentleman, when he gets a moment to breathe, if he would also participate.

consummate....I do know how to spell, but sometime it just gets away before I can catch it...*sigh*

good. let's hope they will come and when ree gets back, won't she be surprised?

Do these stripes give anyone else a headache? Or is it because I have been reading entire topics through the stripes...?!

the stripes bother me but only when we're reading lines on the hot pink bars...

Yup! I shall tell Gi straight away (even though it is the middle of the night for her and she is showing inflight movies inside her head at the moment...)

Wow, Ree's becoming a lawyer. I'd have to transfer artcentaur.com and get it active if you want to use it.

I'm not even sure what it is. I have read about it but never been in there (if there is a "there" to visit...) Wait till I get more than one artist involved. Gi is the only one so far, and my other one is too busy at the moment to even consider asking him about it. I would much prefer to wait till he has time to think and consider than to ask now and be turned down flat. Is that okay with you?

transfer it so we can get it set up (if it's not a lot of trouble. if it is, we can wait)....