You agree, do you?

i knew you were referring to dd *gush*

I am not sure there is a pic of Frank (my ex) on the net, and I have no way to scan the ones I have. Will consult with the after-hours-morsel, D-the-G. He might be able to help...but I am sure he would not qualify as a Babe! Nice guy, but...

"...aw, I'm just like any mommie - trying to scare the gals away from the boy!" Hope not! Hehe...

Not I! I am the sort who does not match-make, but makes whomever he brings home "to meet Mom" as welcome as possible. I have never lost an ex-girlfriend!

Ooop, meant that Frank did not qualify as a Babe...David surely does!

;=}

Thanks for talking to me, Alexander. You are the only male of my acquaintance who will today, I am afraid. Very discouraging!

Now stop that!

This morning was not my best day, but it is getting much better, thank you. I shall and will stop it! *hugs*

Are males babes or, are they "hunks"?

Hunky-chunky babes?

doesn't hunky men refer to the way they're built?

Hmmm.... I don't know, actually. But I never want to call a man a babe - I don't really feel like the mothering type around a thing twice my height and half my width.

ohmigod... how COULD I forget Don Henley... ... his voice has always made my toes curl... and he's not too shabby to look at either!

Don Henley? I don't know that one.

Former drummer and lead singer for the Eagles.

Solo hits include "End of the Innocence," "(Sit Down) You're Rocking the Boat," "The Boys of Summer," "All She Wants to Do is Dance," "Sunset Grill," and my favorite "Dirty Laundry."

you the MAN!

Sit Down You're Rocking the Boat is one of my ALL-TIME favourite songs!! And now I remember the guy's name, because the song was played in the opening credits of 'Leap of Faith', and it had his name on it! So that's it - count me in!

He is terrific.

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You're my top male babe today Paul! Woo WOO!

...and mine! It was a very long day yesterday,without Spring, but I did find some goodies for Geo to post. Thanks for whatever you did to get things back on line, and welcome to more temperate weather. Sounds like you are finally having fall (and poor Stace is freezing at 28�....brrrr!)

Hunkdom is in the eye of the beholder from each side. One I consider serious hunk material (ie, one who "does it for me") called me a liar. I asked if he doubted my truth or opinion and he said that he did...so, one does not have to appear to be a hunk to anyone but the nominator, it would seem!

Oh, so THAT's what was going on! I thought we'd moved URL or something and that I never hear from any of you ever again! Marcia, I thoroughly agree, and thus nominate John Malkovich for hunkdom.

Amen! ...and those men who disagree with our adoration will just have to learn to live with it...*grin*

you have it for john too? so do i!! it's his mannerisms or something, my goodness, that man can make my skin crawl!

Tell me about the rabbits, George.

think i'm running out of room on my list but here's two more to add: brandon fraser the mummy

One cannot run out of room on one's Male Babe's list...there are so many out there and each is worthy of recognition...it would be unfair to limit ourselves...don't you think?! But, there is still one who eclipses all others making the additional ones on my list w a a a y down near the bottom...*smile*

The Mummy - unhandy choice, what with all the bandages, no?

...that was my thought...but I did not see the movie...

Brendan Fraser also has a wonderful sense of humor to go along with hunkdom. Is also deceptively smart although he is good at playing lovable idiots ("Encino Man," "George of the Jungle"). But what was he (and Albert Brooks) thinking when they made "The Scout"? Has to be the worst baseball film ever (even worse than William Bendix or John Goodman as Babe Ruth).

nope, dooright is THE WORST!! the mummy's name is Arnold Vosloo. i think i'm in gaga over hamutem (or whatever the name of the character he played). my goodness, to love someone that much! *sigh* oh, and the mummy part ii will be out in 2000. arnold will be the priest again *big sigh* and ree will be glad to know that arnold is from south africa! (did you know him, ree? *smile*) i don't know any "accessible" babes, you know, it's one thing to fantasize about celebrities, but there aren't any hunks around here that do it for me. (AM is as close as it gets). i'm a sucker for tall built men. just want to climb all the way to the top. the AM is only two inches taller than me, but you have to remember, we wolves crawl around on four legs *grin* note: for future reference, i'll refer to the alpha male wolf as AM)

Oh yes..yes...yes, me too...I like 'um big and sturdy 'cause I am slender and not-so-sturdy...and I too like to climb them...*BIG sigh*....

..and theoretical ones can't break your heart the way real life ones can... Perhaps that explains the lasting power of Drool - we are safe in there and mostly cannot get hurt...except by each other!

here's a pic of the mummy before he's mummified *grin* (and this wolfie likes to unwrap presents!)

If you want to see cute, Wolfie, check Arnold's Adoration Page for some really good pix: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/AESav/main.html

OK, this is how gorgeous he REALLY is:

*droooooooool* (sorry guys) oh, the pic in 138 was borrowed from the link i posted in movie queries---here ya go: http://www.elkhound.demon.co.uk/pictures/imhoteppics.htm

Hey...(handing you a towel) I understand this drool stuff...been doing it copiously for ages now...*wicked grin*

you know, these guys used to be somebody's neighbors when they weren't celebrities...wonder if they knew how delectable they really are (at least the potential?)

...or imagine the snippy little number who turned him down for a date...only to discover how delicious he turned out when he was full-grown?! My son came back to Hilo one time after being at college and at work in Honolulu for about 5 years and saw the "little" girl he used to make go home rather than let her play with the "older kids." Man, is she ever cute now! He said, ..."if I had only known...!" Yup!

indeed!

I guess that is the best revenge of all - turn into a swan and return to your home town...or class reunion!

The "follically challenged" picture looks incredibly like Yul Brynner, who used to send my mom into swooning, drooling seizures.

Same-shaped head...not spherical like Frank's...

well, yul brynner doesn't do it for me, but this guy was incredible, he spoke egyptian too (what is the language of egypt?)...

(Wolf)(what is the language of egypt?)... That would be Arabic. I'm thinking about who my top 5 would be...I don't even know if there are five guys who could "do it for me." I'm very picky.

amy, i thought as much! thanks for clarifying...i'm picky too and some of the guys who "do it for me" aren't what others find attractive either! but like i said before, as far as "real" men go, i don't know of any that could fill my list! (AM not included)

Let's see--I've thought of three so far: 1. Colin Firth (of course) 2. Joseph Fiennes (he is just so pretty!) 3. Colin Dunne (the Irish dancer) These are the guys on my bulletin board--as you can tell, I like them with dark hair and eyes! The sexiest man I've ever met in my whole life is a "real" man, but alas! is married. He isn't what most people consider attractive, but he has a rather nasty reputation that makes him kind of exciting. Do you find that to be the case, that men with bad reputations are intriguing, at least? One of my friends and I were talking about that, and we said that it seems to have always been that way--look at Valmont and Lord Byron for example!

When I subtitled this topic "Who does it for you?" I meant various definitions of "it." The ultimate IT is reserved for the same one who occupies all first four places on my list...CF is 5th in this case, doing a different it...!

As to the man who shares your heart but nothing else...like mine...I think they are interesting for the very qualities exhibit which are not the standardly accepted ones.

Wolfie, Arnold Vosloo is in fact an Afrikaner... I guess he was chosen for the role to add the 'humin tutch'. When he was still making appearances in appalling South Effrican Soaps, he was ALWAYS cast as the baddy. WHY WHY WHY??? He is the ONLY handsome Afrikaner male (apart from my brother) ever to have been born! I don't think I could exist with a person with whom I had nothing in common. What would I say to him after the sex was over?

You mean there is a time when sex is over??? Oh No!!!

That's why I've never been able to understand "boy toys." Who could tolerate some airhead with whom you couldn't share your innermost thoughts and passions? I could never tolerate a man who couldn't discuss literature with me--it would be like we were from different planets or something. Some people think that sounds terribly snobbish, but I have to wake up with this guy for the rest of my life!

that's how i feel. i don't want a "pretty boy" unless he can talk all the stuff i talk about. of course, i wouldn't want a brudishly ugly man either. but hey, who am i to say that. and who has time for sex? what's that again?

A friend of mine once told me: "We don't love people because we think they're beautiful; we think they're beautiful because we love them." So, I guess if you found your soulmate, you would think he was the most absolutely angelic man that God ever set down on the earth (especially if he knew his Shakespeare!)

this is true!

Indeed...*sigh*...but the wrong guy, nonetheless. Is there a worse Hell than that?! They are truly beautiful because of what they are, not how they look, but try to convince one of that!!!

Well, I think some of them do--I know a certain gentleman who, throughout most of his life, was teased, ridiculed, and humiliated in front of girls because he was bookish and not particularly handsome; but now, he's in a setting where everyone adores him for his brains, and he is obviously on a mission to prove everyone from his childhood just exactly how many women of quality he can get now. He's a Lord Byron if I ever saw one!

Oh my! Hope he gets it out of his system before he reaches a lonely old age. I, on the other hand, know of one who went through the same childhood and is still feeling the pain and the scars are too fresh to not eat at his self esteem. It breaks my heart...

Oh, my best friend and I have decided that 98% of the stuff he does comes directly from insecurity about such a miserable (and impoverished)childhood. I don't think his wife is going to leave him, either--she is incredibly patient and either doesn't notice or doesn't care what he's doing.

Sounds incredibly familiar...but mine is not a Lord Byron sort...not in the way yours is. Of course it is insecurity and self doubt...why else would he need that ego gratification from elsewhere. I do not envy his wife!!!

And the funny thing is that I tried to, in effect, turn myself into his wife...I dressed like her, wore my hair the same way, adopted her mannerisms, and everything in hopes of him liking me more. (BTW, I'm talking about the same person here that I'm talking about on "Poems of Loss.")

(...as am I)... I seem to be the opposite of the other people in his life, and I think it was a pleasant surprise and he said a positive change for him...but...

I think mine really desperately wants children, but his wife is a bit too old to have them (although she just recently said, "If I ever have a child..." but she's 45,) so I think he was looking for a younger version of her to have them for him. It's just a theory.

...Interesting!...do you think he is mature and secure enough to be a good father, or is it another ego thing he is after?! (mine has children)

Oh, I know he would be a very good father--the "thing" between he and I started out as a very paternal/filial relationship (he is older than my father by four years,) and he was always very sweet to me right up until the day he gave me the yo-heave-ho. I took my brother to see him a couple of weeks ago, and I 've never seen a grown man make such a big squealy fuss over a baby!

For your benefit, I wonder?! *lol* sounds out of character from what other things I have put together in my mind that you have told me about him. (Do you think I should start a Relationships Topic somewhere?!)

I don't think it's for my benefit--I think he's scared to death that I'm going to tell her what happened (which I won't.) Maybe you should start a relationships topic--call it "What is wrong with men?!?" We seem to have taken over these two topics for the moment, haven't we? Would you like a visual to go with the image of him you have in your mind? I can email you a website address where you can see a picture of him attempting to look seductive (ha!)

Do email me the website. I am most curious! I find it comforting to be able to talk to you about this since you state the things I am feeling and have had similar experiences. Checking in Philosophy for place to put topic (there is one in there already called Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus...shall we use that one or a new one?

Okey-dokey, I'll get right on that. I don't think the "Men are from Mars..." one is quite right--we need something a little more tragic!

meet me in screwed 163 - I am waiting for you http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/screwed/163/new

wow! can i come? i think i need to learn a few things *grin*

You can only come if you have an absolutely pathetic story to tell!

see my response in poems of loss (!!) which you've already done *grin* no pathetic stories except that my life is normal (i think), although some excitement once in a while would be nice (and i've had that happen once or twice, way more than i need to get me into trouble)....

Believe me, you don't want too much excitement in your life, because eventually you'll end up wanting peace and quiet again.

*haha*

Poor Wolfie has heard the story of my woe ad nauseum... and she has had them too. I guess all of the choice ladies have *grin*. Next, we need to add Nan who has been lamenting a very painful loss in Philosophy / Love...

Oh yes, invite her to come too. We need all of the lamenting intellectuals we can get!

Indeed, and I think I know who is messing up her life - poor dear...! It is so easy to say the banal stuff when you are not wallowing in it yourself...she needs the comfort of fellow sufferers. I shall issue the invitation straight away!

I would like an otherwise unoccupied woman to discuss literature with me, but I'm afraid Austen and the Brontes don't do it for me. My women colleagues are all married and/or unattractive (and all are more concerned about comp than lit--understandable for high school teachers).

i love literature, john, but am not an academic scholar in it. my fave classic authors of the moment are charles dickens and mark twain. both of them crack me up to no end!

John, I am fondest of Tolstoy and the Eueopean writers of the 19th century - with the large EXCEPTION of Proust. I could not get through Remembrances of Things Past...or whatever it was when he was pining for his mother and the little cookies she fed him...tres weird. Which lit did you have in mind?

Re: Wolf's Response 149 - the language If he was playing an "ancient" egyptian", the language could have been a lot of things, even Koptic, Latin, Greek or the old Pharaoh's Egyptian (which's pronounciation has been lost through the ages), about which I don't know a thing. When was that scene dated?

i'm clueless on that as well, but, have been hinting to my husband about purchasing the film (which does show dated subtitles), so i will let you know as soon as i'm able!

Or read the book...

...when all esle fails...

...or all else fails...

You already know my poetic taste. I'm not a lit scholar either...Twain is still my favorite American author. And I can get bashed as a sexist for this, but I love the visceral, stripped-down minimalist style of Hemingway. I don't know if he was misogynist, although I've kept hearing he was. Certainly, I was sympathetic to Brett (more than Hemingway was) in The Sun Also Rises. I'm surprised that I like Henry James, but I do. I know Austen was a major influence on him. Dickens ranks up there on my list of English novelists. So does George Eliot. I have mixed emotions about Joyce (I know he was Irish). I couldn't make it through Ulysses, but was moved to tears by The Dead. I like the shorter, later Tolstoy things with redemption as theme, such as Master and Man and The Death of Ivan Ilytch. I've read War and Peace and Anna Karennina, though. I believe there's good reason the former has become a metaphor for overlong, and the latter is just too damn tragic. I knew she was doomed from the second she saw Vronsky. I love some of Dostoevsky, especially The Brothers Karamazov. I know the father is a tragic figure, but I laugh when I read h s misadventures. That got me into trouble in a Russian Lit in translation seminar with my favorite lit professor (now deceased). I still think he's funny, intentional or not. Crime and Punishment gave me war flashback nightmares, so the violence in there was certainly effective. I would not have wanted Raskalnikov as a shipmate. This is "Top Five Male Babes?" Sorry! *sheepish grin*

You are in the right place - and your babe picture is newly posted on Spring Gallery in a sharp-focused grey-scale photograph in which we can really see what you look like! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/porch/35.403

I'm sorry the photog who took that pic retired. He actually made me look good. Thank you.

Who took it? (I can use all the help I can get. Too bad he retired!)

A nice elderly Japanese-American gentleman named Roy who used to have his studio in the Waiakea Villas. I'm told he retired to California.

to whomever told me to read the book (the mummy), no thanks, i just wanna see arnold vosloo again and again and again!! as to literature: there is a book topic and we could move this discussion there. but, i enjoyed wuthering heights, great expectations, the diary of adam and eve, the awakening-hated the ending (chopin), and several others. my dad loaned ulysses and the iliad but couldn't get through either one. oh, and the hobbit, and a few others by twain were really good. don't know why he and dickens crack me up. love twain for the way he writes like folks talk and the use of ethnic slander does not offend me because understand why it was used (even if, during those times, it was also considered taboo). why they wanted to ban the book is beyond me (huckleberry finn). a friend (nick) emailed some selections by twain of which i've read and still have around somewhere, but don't remember the titles. oh, and i have a huge book with the collections of edgar allen poe, because he cracks me up even though the stuff he writes is scary. (i did have a pit and pendulum dream at one point in my adult life). and am working on jane eyre, but because of my (many) other interests, it's sitting on the shelf (not literally, however, it's still in the paper sacks we put all the books in to facilitate the installation of new carpet)....to be continued!

Roy Nagata, John?! Excellent man! It is too bad he retired. We are left with Reed and Jay and that is about it excepting for the department store packages... Wolf, it is not a good day if I don't have three or so books going at once! I know the feeling!

I wish I had time to read what I want! Right now, I'm trudging through Benita Eisler's biography of Byron in an attempt to learn something useful to my thesis, but I'd really like to cut loose and read a historical novel like I did over the summer!

My absolute favorite kinds of books are historical novels. I can get lost for days and weeks in them...!