SB, the CD contains the voiceovers by Colin and one itsy bit of dialogue between Paul and Steve. Fortunately for you, I still have it on a diskette. Voice Overs Anthropologists have always had a hard time with football. The trouble is, you can only see what's on the outside. But there is an inside, believe it or not. We all have our reasons for loving things the way we do. ********* Why is it that adults aren't supposed to go mad about anything? You've got to keep a lid on it. And if you don't then people are apparently entitled to say what they like. You haven't grown up. You're a moron. Your conversation is trivial and boorish. You can't express your emotional needs, you can't relate to your children and you die lonely and miserable. But, you know, what the hell. Every cloud has a silver lining. ********** It's not easy to become a football fan. It takes years. But if you put in the hours you're welcomed, without question, into a new family. Except, in this family, you care about the same people and hope for the same things. And what's childish about that? ********** Football has meant too much to me, and come to represent too many things. See, after a while, it all gets mixed up in your head, and you can't remember whether life's shit because Arsenal are shit or the other way around. I've been to watch too many games, and spent too much money, and fretted about Arsenal when I should have been fretting about something else. I've asked too much of the people I love. OK. I can accept all that. But I don't know, perhaps, it's something you can't understand unless y u belong. What about this? Three minutes to go and you're two--one up in a semi-final and you look around and you see all those thousands of faces contorted with fear and hope and worry, everyone lost, everything else gone out of their heads... .Then the whistle blows and everyone goes to spare, and just for those few minutes, you're at the centre of the whole world. And the fact that you care so much, that the noise you have made has been such a crucial part of it all, is what makes it special. Because you've een every bit as important as the players, and if you hadn't been there, then who'd be bothered about football, really? And the great thing is it comes round again and again. There's always another season. You lose the Cup final in May, well there's the third round to look forward to in January. And what's wrong with that? It's actually pretty comforting if you think about it. Most of the time. But every now and then--not very often, but it happens--you catch a glimpse of a world that doesn't work like that--a world that doesn't stop in May and begin again in August. There's some stuff that just never comes back, and some stuff that just won't go away, and some stuff that you can't ignore even if you wanted to. ************* When I think back to the 26th of May 1989 now, it's impossible to explain what happened to either of us--all three of us, if you count the team. But I do know this. Something happened between me and Arsenal that night. It was as if I jumped on to the shoulders of the team and they carried me into the light that had suddenly shown down on all of us. And the lift they gave me enabled me to part company from them, in some ways. We still see each other all of the time, I still love them and hate them all at the same time, but I have my own life now, and my own successes and failures aren't necessarily linked up with theirs. And that's got to be a good thing. I suppose. ******** Track 3 Dialogue Steve: It's the smoking. Paul: It's not the smoking, Steve. It's the crapness.

There's a big article about the Fiennes family's Kosovo benefit. Anyway, this picture accompanies the article: I can't remember (and you all know how I don't like this movie) but is that Geoffrey or is that Maddox by the plane behind the lizard-eyed, pencil-legged guy? ;-)

I think it is our adorable GC back there working on his plane. Just by the cock of his head and the bend of his legs, it seems so familiar. Nice to have something besides that nasty man to look at in TEP ;)

Wow, thanks Karen, you too Jana :) now I shall have to start a hunt for the CD up here near San Francisco course.... if I watch the movie first, the dialog will probably make a bit more sence.... :)

SB-- If you need to find FP up in the Bay Area, I suggest you check out Virgin first-- they may have it in stock. My next best bet (though it may be out of your way) would be any of the local music places in Berkeley-- Rasputin or Amoeba (they still around?) on Telegraph. I used to find the most unusual, hard-to-find albums in those places, and you may get lucky in either of those shops.

(Karen)Wasn't it shown throughout most of Europe...Don't know about Portugal or the Benelux countries? Gi? Tineke? It has never been shown in Belgium. A UK friend sent me the tape.

Just wanted to try and reassure you that Capt. Corelli's Mandolin is in (we hope) safe hands. Just to scotch rumours, I can tell you that I am producing this film for Working Title, and that Roger Michell (Buddha of Suuburbia, Persuasion, My Night With Reg, Notting Hill)is directing. We have never approached Tom Cruise - that is definitive truth. We have met several Italians, Greeks, Americans and Brits for the role, and have no announcement to make as yet. The film is to be shot next Spring in Greece (almost entirely)for a release at the end of 2000. On another note, I can tip you off that BJD is to be directed by Sharon Macguire, who is not only a talented director but Shazza in the book, and that Richard Curtis is not working formaly on the script. And that no casting decisions have yet been made. Hope this helps.

Thankyou very much for reassuring us that Capt. Corelli's Mandolin is in safe hands and for the informations re BJD, over which we have been speculating for many months. You say no decision has been made over casting but surely there is only one man to play Mark Darcy, also any news when filming if expected to begin. Thanks for taking the trouble to post.

Thanks for the information about Corelli and BJD. Any other updates would be greatly appreciated. I noticed you didn't "scotch" the rumor about Nic Cage. ;-) ************ There's an article about the Newport Fest at Indie wire. Mentions lots of movies and is very complimentry about the fest, but no mention of MLSF. Incredible!! This movie has such a low profile. Here's the link: http://www.indiewire.com/film/festivals/fes_99Newport_990617_wrap.html

The Friends of Firth Website (Meluchie) has a new Colin pic. Click on Periodicals.

(Fan1) The Friends of Firth Website (Meluchie) has a new Colin pic. Click on Periodicals. I tried to find this, unsuccessfully. What does the picture look like or what is the URL? (Karen) ...no mention of MLSF. Incredible!! This movie has such a low profile. Oh, no!! But, as an optimist, I'm hoping that Miramax is being cagey. I saw the trailer and the film does look charming. Hope we get to see it. Got a clue from my mother-in-law as to why darling Colin is so undervalued as an actor. She actually said to me that anybody could do what he does in P&P, i.e. stand around and look sullen. And she commented that he acts the same in all of his roles. Yikes!! The problem here is that the mass audience wants its entertainment spoon-fed to it, are more focused on special effects and plot, and don't pay attention too carefully to the performances. Didn't Anthony Minghella say that Colin was "delicate" (subtle in my book). If you see his movies only once, you may miss the nuances of his performances (no one could ever accused ODB of being an emoter), which are what make him so incredibly compelling as an actor. I think I even read a Fever Pitch review that mentioned that CF acted more energetically than usual in it. However, it is this intensity and delicacy that makes his films so rewatchable ( I rarely see a film more than once, except for my Christmas movies); there is always something new to discover in h s performances.

Thanks for the shopping tips Winter! :) Must admit that I dont get to Berkeley often, accept on a rare occasion to see movies or buy shoes :) (parking is still a nightmare) Will watch for Rasputin and Amoeba on my next foray in.

Lynda, please remember to close your tags. These have been fixed as well as the ones at 112. I hate having to squint my eyes. ;-) Here's the URL for Meluchie's posting of the new pic of Colin outside the Islington Sainsbury doing his protest thing. It came from the Big Issue's street publication for this week. All you Londoners, go snap these up!! ;-) http://members.xoom.com/firthfiles/articles/99tbi0614.html

Thanks for the link Karen! It looks like Colin is holding a microphone, they might have been interviewed, did anyone happen to catch this? What are backbenchers? Kevin, thank you for taking the time to post here. It is good to know that CCV is in good hands. Has it entered anyone's mind involved in BJD, that Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth would be the perfect pair? Their pairing alone guarantees an audience thanks to the successful P&P. And, if they want to attract the female audience, they should not waste time and sign them both to the project. It will create a huge expectation. I hope you find the time to visit us again.

Kevin, thanks very much for the update on Captain Corelli and Bridget Jones....we would really appreciate any further news on casting, when available, and also on the dates scheduled for shooting BJD. One of the problems in adapting books such as CCM and BJD, which enjoy such tremendous popularity, is that most of the readers will have very definite ideas about who should (and should not!) play the lead roles! I'd like a complete unknown to play Captain Corelli (some hopes!) and for BJD, well, those leading roles are made for Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle!! Moon...Backbenchers are Members of Parilament who sit on the "backbench"...ie the main body of Parilament, excluding the Cabinet. Now News...although actually this must be "old" news and must be available on the Net, as there'a already been a posting about it elsewhere. Another chance to see Colin LIVE! I spotted an item in yesterday's "Independent" listing Charity events. Included a reference to "No laughing matter" in aid of The Refugee Council, to be performed at the Jongleurs in Battersea (Lavender Rd, South London). Appearing are comedians Mark Thomas and Jeremy Hardy (very clever) and actors Colin Firth and Mark Strong (Fever Pitch, TV version of Emma) who will be reading from poetry and writings by refugees. Thursday 24 June. Tickets �12. There's a website fot the Jongleurs at http://www.jongleurs.com Click on what's new (no names yet). Booking on 0870-78-70-707 or 0171-564-2500 So, if you liked Fever Pitch!! There are several Jongleurs throughout the UK...sort of review club, rather than theatre. Performers often mingle at the bar after the show.

Ouch! Typo...Parliament...Parliament!

Thursday 24 June. Good god, this is a *bit* too tight a schedule for me, wish I had known about it earlier! I hope someone of us has a chance to attend??

Thursday 24 June Good God, can someone go? I know many of you ladies have a distance to travel but what a temptation. Allison, are you out there? I suppose Evelyn will be back in the States by then...damn. This has been a rather fruitful day here at the ol' drool board.

Yes, Evelyn departs on the 24th. What awful luck!! Perhaps she can change her ticket???? ;-D

Yes, damn!! Wouldn�t it be great if the dear boy would inform us in time when he�s planning a live performance! Who knows what is happening next with this political activity of his, he could become a candidate for the Parilament if the right party wants him, whatever it is. I don�t know how I would feel about that, not very happy perhaps but I do like what he�s doing now, speaking for the refugees voluntarily. .......I read that Telegraph article but I didn�t really make out why it�s refugees (of all problems in this world) that he�s so concerned about.

Thursday 24 June Good God, can someone go? 'fraid not! For various reasons, I have been out of action recently so I failed in my mission to get a Big Issue. Usually I am beseiged by sellers but as I have been at home mostly, I have not come across any. I did buy a copy of the local Islington paper last week but there was nothing about the Sainsbury trip in it. I shall try and get a copy of this week's and let you know! On the 24th, I have a major social engagement and so will be a long way from Battersea. Is there no other London person out there, lurking? he could become a candidate for the Parilament if the right party wants him, Oh NO!! I could not drool over an MP however cute his dimples. . .......I read that Telegraph article but I didn�t really make out why it�s refugees I suspect that it is because of all those missionaries in his family past. I get the impression that there is a family interest in people of other cultures and faiths. His mother's field was comparative religion. There is a lot of controversy in the UK about asylum seekers and their treatment so it doesn't seem so unusual to me that he would be interested.

The refugee problem is something all Europe is dealing with now. Tineke and I are meeting at the Donmar at 12:30 pm on July 22. We will have lunch at Luna Nova and attend the matinee of TRT. We would enjoy meeting you even if it is for lunch only. Let us know. :-)

The refugee problem is something all Europe is dealing with now. Sure is but not everybody is campaigning in front of supermarkets or arranging events because of it. What I meant is: obviously there must be some strong personal reasons and experiences/connections/goals because he�s so interested and he�s ready to do something personally, not only to read newspapers like most people.

Re. involvement in the Refugee cause, didn't he recently give a poetry reading in Winchester, in a concert in aid of refugees, organised by his mother? I would think that his family background would certainly encourage this sort of commitment.

Yes. He did. Basically I agree it is his Christian background. Many many years ago I believe (not totally sure) I knew his grandparents. I was much involved back then in Church activities (I was still in my teens) and went to a function at their home in Hindhead/Greyshott, and he has lived also in Nigeria. His father also was that way inclined and his mother.

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Hi Anne. Come and regale uus with your many Firthly tales. Please?!

Wait a minute now... This is the first we hear that you have some acquaintance with the family??? Anne, please, tell us more. Did you ever meet Colin as a young boy?

Anne: he has lived also in Nigeria. I read also that he went to High School in Ohio (or some other state) for a time. Lucky high schoolers!

And we know one of those lucky high schoolers!!! Come in out of the lurking!!!

It was St. Louis (Missouri) and he made it sound as if it were an inner city school as well.

Marcia suggested I post a few snippets about some of the one degree away experiences I have had with C.F. and perhaps some other personalities, are you interested, only as I have said to Marcia I do not want to seem to boast, I would hate you to think that.

In reply to your question did I know Colin as a young boy - no I went there in the fifties - his grandparents had recently retired (at least I think they were his grandparents - I would hate to be wrong but from so far away you cannot be sure) and had bought a large house they were turning into a hotel. CF's parents are around my age and I don't think they were married then - probably both were at University. The only other early contact was when he played soccer for the Celebrity team. I must have wat hed him play but of course then not aware of who he was - but I remember some of the players were rather gorgeous. I have watched them a couple of times at Hyde Park and again locally for a charitable cause. Otherwise mainly places where he has been, like Broughton Castle.

You are preaching to the choir here, and we are very needy. We have been converted for years, but our souls need to be fed! Please continue, Anne!

okay - but not until Monday or late tomorrow Oz time. I will have to try and think.

Anne, you have done us proud, and Karen has something from you to post which will further please the Droolians. I have just discovered - for those monetarioy challenged who find themselves in London, The 1999 London Youth Hostels Directory http://www.ris.org.uk/lhd99.htm

Thanks, Anne! I�m eagerly waiting for more, this is really amazing. Btw I�ll be offline for the next two or so weeks because of a holiday trip, have a good time everybody and see-you again in July.

(Moon) Thanks for the link Karen! It looks like Colin is holding a microphone, they might have been interviewed Hmmm, when I looked at that picture I thought he was holding a toilet brush :-). I rather hope you're right because your version is much more glamorous!

Thank you, Anne, we would be most interested to hear your stories. (Anne) when he played soccer for the Celebrity team. I must have watched him play but of course then not aware of who he was - but I remember some of the players were rather gorgeous. Colin played soccer for a Celebrity team? And you watched him play? This I definitely want to hear about!! Have a nice holiday, Elena! Marcia sent me via Anne the picture from the Big Issue. I can post it here, but it is already at both Meluchie's and Murph's sites. Has everyone seen it, or do I need to put it up here? BTW, it looks like a toilet bowl brush to me. The purpose of the shopping expedition was to prove that the vouchers being given to asylum seekers or refugees were insufficient. By the looks of the all the bags at their feet, I don't know. If they are all filled with bulky items, maybe not. But seems like the boys did pretty well at the store. They got hotdogs, potatoes, TP, tunafish (?), bread. Of course, I don't know how many that was supposed to feed and for how long!

yes Anne, please tell us more. you are very lucky! BTW, FP was released on the big screen in Israel a year ago, and on video this weekend (which made me of course watch it again yesterday for the 10,000th time...) so no one is going to this charity thing with CF? I wish I could go...

tunafish (?), bread. Of course, I don't know how many that was supposed to feed and for how long! Fishes and loaves, Karen? LOL!! Yes, these boys do look like they know their way around the market. One question: has it been warm in London? Then how come ODB isn't wearing shorts like whatzisname? ;-) Anne, get those memory cells working...you know we savor every tiny morsel. so no one is going to this charity thing with CF? I wish I could go.. Yes, please someone...we got Sue to brave Newport and he wasn't even there, let alone reading poetry.

And of course that should be Susan. We have two (at least).

Anne, please do tell us more about those football matches in Hyde Park. I wonder if they still have them.

so is noone going to this charity thing with CF I understand that someone is...and hopefully we may get some news at one of the CF sites. I'd love to know what he reads. Anne, please don't be shy...all reminiscences are most welcome! Sophie in Love...has anyone noticed the new title adopted by Prince Edward and his bride....none other than the Earl and Countess of WESSEX. Most bizarre...every time they said "the Earl of Wessex" I expected to see CF. And the wedding was at Windsor (as in SIL!) Was sacanning the summer cinema releases for the UK for the summer...Austin Powers, Entrapment, My favourite Martian, Bride of Chocky, Phantom Menace etcetera....eech! Movies have been hi-jacked by the teens. No news of MLSF. We're in for a long wait, apparently (and, I'm sure, only a very selected release) I hope CF gets a bit of a boost in July in the US, when (fingers crossed!) two movies open! Have a great holiday, Elena!

(Heide) Yes, please someone...we got Sue to brave Newport and he wasn't even there, let alone reading poetry. LOL, Heide! And had he been there to read poetry, I would have been there in a New York minute... lack of parking or not;-) Is there any way someone can get in touch with Evelyn and ask if it's possible for her to stay an extra day? I'm sure she'd be very upset to miss a golden opportunity to see Colin live.

(Bethan) Was scanning the summer cinema releases for the UK for the summer...Austin Powers, Entrapment, My favourite Martian, Bride of Chocky, Phantom Menace etcetera....eech! Movies have been hi-jacked by the teens. Embarrassing confession: My DH and I took our two sons to see Phantom Menace yesterday... and I rather liked it. Or more precisely, it was better than I expected it to be. I thought Liam was fine and Ewan was pretty droolable -- was very glad he ditched the Scottish accent. (No offense meant to the Scots among us;-)

AnnW, please email me at marci@aloha.net. Your Email in Springfolks is bouncing!

I am delighted you enjoyed my snippets. Did I tell you about the lady I met who lived at Lyme Park. I think I did. If not let me know.

Ladies I have e-mailed Marcia, hopefully it can get sorted out. I have given her a Yahoo e-mail No. as well as my usual one. Colin playing football. Well its all so long ago - I can remeber tall lanky players - shades of Colin but regretably thats all. I had seen all his plays etc. on T.V. but never registered him until P. and P. although I always admired the actor in them. Shows his diversity doesn't it.

Oh Anne, my server is neither accepting out mail or in mail. BTW, you have told me about the Lyme Park lady but you have not told anyone else here. They will love to hear it. You cannot know how happy I am you will have stopped bouncing and can get all of the S'folks email at home now =) I await my server's response. I will change your status and email in SF as soon as I know your Yahoo address.

CF was the the only non-member of the Royal Family to have his photo included in a four page spread of the Royal Wedding in the Sunday Telegraph....but it was in the guise of the Earl of Wessex! BTW, FP was released on the big screen in Israel a year ago, and on video this weekend You may have more treats in store, Adi. Miramax have said that MLSF will be released in Israel and Greece (amongst others) in September.

(Bethan) CF was the the only non-member of the Royal Family to have his photo included in a four page spread of the Royal Wedding in the Sunday Telegraph....but it was in the guise of the Earl of Wessex! There I was yesterday morning, hairdryer in hand, TV on in the background with typical ho-hum morning news when I heard about the 'Earl of Wessex' and was ROTFLOL. Some coincidence! It got me thinking....I wonder if Her Majesty is a closet Firthfan? Perhaps we should keep our eyes open for a newbie posting as "Lilibeth" or "QE" or "ElizabethR" :-) Hey, we've had a producer here, anything can happen! ;-P Or even better what if she's already been here? Hmmmm, Bethan, have you something to tell us??? Heeheeheehee! Anne H., let me echo the others. All remembrances, however fuzzy or distorted by time are very welcome. Am off to view pic of ODB with toilet brush in hand. Now that will stand out in the collection! Kudos to him for supporting the cause of his choice (I also think it's due to his family/upbringing).

I have tried to enter today but have not been able - I am just checking to see if it is working for me.

Anne, I have hgad the same problems all afternoon. Must have been shut down for some reason. I know they have been having thunder storms in the area. Guess that might do it!

Edinburgh fest greeting 'Social Club,' 'Winslow' LONDON -- Wim Wenders' "Buena Vista Social Club," Atom Egoyan's "Felicia's Journey," David Mamet's "The Winslow Boy" and Bill Murray starrer "Rushmore" will headline the gala section at this year's 53rd Edinburgh International Film Festival from Aug. 15-29. The Focus on Britain section will include actor- turned-director Tim Roth's debut feature "The War Zone" starring Ray Winstone, Lara Belmont, Freddie Cunliffe and Tilda Swinton. Also screening in the section will be Damien O'Donnell's Cannes Internati nal Film Festival entry "East Is East" and Michael Winterbottom's Cannes competition title "Wonderland." Jasmin Dizdar's debut feature, "Beautiful People," about the troubled lives of four British families who encounter refugees from the war in former Yugoslavia, will also screen. *********** And where is MLSF? Where is Miramax's entry? Isn't MLSF--set in Scotland--a natural for the EIFF? Have checked the EIFF's website and it isn't ready yet? There must be a full listing of the films out there somewhere.

BTW, when we have problems accessing Spring, that's what Springfolks is all about! :-)

From Mari: Miramax has moved up the opening date for MLSF in NY and LA to Wednesday, July 14. The rest of the rollout remains the same, i.e., top 20 markets on July 23, top 40 on July 30. The PREMIERE: they say they are shooting for Monday, July 12, but that is not definite yet. She indicated that it would likely be a small affair.

At lunch time, I took a walk down to the Kendall Square Cinema (our Indie cinema), and was told that they will start showing MLSF on July 16. They also have a newsletter where a bunch of movies are talked about (Limbo, Trick, Run Lola Run and MLSF). So for you Bostonians, or Cambrige folk, that's when Kendall Square Cinema starts showing MLSF.

Laura, what did the newletter say about MLSF, and I hope you will be going and will report back. It seems too bad that we in the Uk do not have a release date, I thought with the David Puttnam connection that we would be sure to see it.

David P is that right?

Argh!! Boston is getting it at the same time as NY and LA??? This is not to be borne. Wish there were only one indie cinema here to check with here about the dates. Time to give Miramax another buzz... Ann: Lord P, isn't it? ;-D

(Eileen) I wonder if Her Majesty is a closet Firthfan? Perhaps we should keep our eyes open for a newbie posting as "Lilibeth" or "QE" or "ElizabethR" :-) ...or even better what if she's already been here? Hmmmm, Bethan, have you something to tell us??? Heeheeheehee! ROTFLOL! Bethan Dear, if you're giving out titles this week, i have a request to make.... ;)

The newsletter which is the movie guide for the cinema, just has your basic write-up of the movie. Talks about Fraser, yada, yada, yada. But it says "Hugh Hudson (Chariot of Fire, Greystoke) directs a stellar cast, including Colin Firth, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Irene Jacob, Malcolm McDowell, Rosemary Harris and Tcheky Karyo." So CF get's first billing in this short write-up HOWEVER, The Blair Witch Project looks incredible!

HOWEVER, The Blair Witch Project looks incredible! Those two guys who directed are from the U of Miami Film School! SB, if Bethan had any royal connections, she would have already seen SLOW. ;-))

(Moon) SB, if Bethan had any royal connections, she would have already seen SLOW. ;-)) ...and she would have invited all of us to the Palace to watch it with her!! ;-) and Tcheky Karyo Why is he included in this *stellar* group? Is he anybody?

Hmmm, let's see Tcheky Karyo's filmography includes many French films. But his American films... Operation Dumbo Drop?? Addicted to Love?? An episode of Red Shoes Diary (soft core porn).

Hmmm, Wessex was a giveaway....you seem to have blown my cover! Anyone want the Order of the Garter? :-) Good to hear of confirmed dates for MLSF. Does this mean it's not going head-to-head with Eyes Wide Shut? I'm sure we'll see MLSF in the UK, Ann, but on selected release. The problem is that we have very few independent art house type cinemas (there seem to be far more in the US)....and distribution is entirely through chains of multiplexes, who book the same movies. This week they've all got Bride of Chocky (!) and the new Dangerous Liaisons , next week it's The Mummy. Smaller films (US and European) really struggle. On a positive note, I noticed that a British-made movie which had failed to find a distrib tor and had been sitting on the shelf for 2 years finally made it to the screen (one screen only, in London) and got easily the best reviews of the week.!!

Tcheky Karyo has a name in France, I think. Found him always very interesting since The Bear. He has a very wide range. In France he is perhaps what CF is in UK. Interesting to see how a local European star makes his way in the US. His choices are not always the best (hated the last half of Addicted to Love). I wonder if he takes roles CF turned down? :-)

I would love to have heard C.F.'s comment when Prince Edward chose Earl of Wessex especially as it had not been used since before the Norman conquest of 1066! Anne

I have just heard that Sophie, Countess of Wessex is an avid P.and P. fan and her house is to be furnished as in Lyme Park - is this true do you know.

Congrats to the new Earl and Countess....seems to me, though that the old Earl wouldn't have given up his title without a bluster, let alone a fight!! ;-) I'm late to all this news. My Doom Has Struck...Both the Library And the C.C. computer lab will be shut down on Sundays, **Sob!**. Riven from my lifeline through no fault of my own!! Happy anniversary, Colin and Livia!! Have a great one, and many more!! Your most important gifts are the good wishes from us all! (I hope I speak for the majority in this.) :-D

(Bethan) Anyone want the Order of the Garter? :-) Put me down for Marchioness of Middle Earth. Don't sell Cruel Intentions short. It's not too bad, although the Cecile character is way too infantile to be believed. Buffy does a good job as the evil and calculating, but sweet on the outside Merteuil. (Renate) hated the last half of Addicted to Love Only the last half?? Really? ;-)

For those of us who *missed* Starship Troopers, here's a pic of Denise Richards, who will play Miranda Frayle in RV:

And The Times weighs in on the Earl of Wessex. Some snippets: "The fact that the Earl of Wessex was also a character played by Colin Firth (Mr Darcy in a codpiece) in Shakespeare in Love only compounds the banal allure of this olde worlde love-in." "It would be unfair to take the credit for this semantic triumph away from the Queen, but one senses that its real architect is none other than one T. Blair. The Palace has conceded that the Prime Minister had an influence, but this must surely be to underplay a policy decision that has the Never Neverland values of Cool Britannia written all over it." "This way the most glorious of insanities lie. How long before we get a Countess Jilly of Rutshire, a Duke of Ambridge, a Lord Mickey of Mouse? Wessex - inspired? Creative? It's a knockout."

Oh Karen! How cruel some of those remarks are...and how true. I suppose I cannot now be Marcia-ness of Stonehenge?!

I suppose I cannot now be Marcia-ness of Stonehenge?! Small realm, isn't it? Your ladyship, you really must keep your druid-wannabes in line. Quite a ruckus they caused yesterday. Naked on the stones! Go read an article posted at 34 about men's faces and women's preferences. Very interesting.

From the AICN: Saul Zaentz (English Patient) and Anthony Minghella (Jim Henson's The Storyteller), are reuniting on a new project that, as yet, has no title, but sounds mighty strange. The film will be shot from an untitled script by Minghella, which he will not direct, which tells the story of a man who becomes suicidal when he realizes his marriage is kaput. He is stopped from carrying out his impulses by living embodiments of the seven deadly sins who attempt to convince him to live life according to their passions. For the production the Saul Zaentz Co. will partner with The Jim Henson Company in the production which will have a budget in the $30 million range. Brian Henson revealed that the seven deadly sin characters will be realized by a "mixture of animatronics and CGI." Filming is expected to start in late spring or early summer of 2000. ******** Yo, Saul and Tony!! Remember the guy with the transparent face and he's likely available. ;-)

Buffy does a good job as the evil and calculating, but sweet on the outside Merteuil. ] Heh, Buffy;) BTW, I saw the last episode of Buffy that was pulled off the air. I wanted to see Cruel Intentions as did my 8 year old. Nah, didn't think it appropriate for her. However, she has caught glimpses of Valmont many many many times;)

There's no version of Dangerous Liaisons that's appropriate for anyone under 18!! And I've just seen the Vadim modern adaptation from 1960.

And I've just seen the Vadim modern adaptation from 1960. ] Um, Vadim? Don't most people associate him with soft porn? I can picture his version of Dangerous Liaison's, hot hot hot!

tells the story of a man who becomes suicidal when he realizes his marriage is kaput. Could this be another cockold script? If he is offered this role, he better keep an eye on Livia. ;-)

Oooh, Karen, those rabble clad in white sheets make me so angry.What a big bunch of baloney they repersent. Why they are allowed to desecrate that most special of places is beyond me. How can one revere something by climbing all over it and standing on the lintels like it was a toy. They make me irrationally furious and I feel the definite urge to dismember a few of the more obnoxious.

Colin Firth (Mr Darcy in a cod piece Hmm, according to our press, Mr Darcy sure gets around...we've had Mr Darcy in boxer shorts, Mr Darcy on the stage, Mr Darcy in a cod piece, and no doubt, soon to come, Mr Darcy acquires a Scottish accent and Mr Darcy tilts at windmills! Thanks for the RV pic, Karen. I've been meaning to ask, just how popular now is Julie Andrews in the US? Would a movie with JA in a starring role attract a lot of media attention and a wide release? I think that she's worked mainly in the States for the last decade or more, so we rarely see anything about her over here. (Although she was in "Hello" (read it in the haidressers!)...news item about her being awarded an honorary doctorate from Yale. Also a mention of RV, with SF and CF)

I think Julie Andrews would get a good reception. She got a great ovation at the Tony Awards when she sang a bit. She's fairly well-liked in America. Though, more on stage lately than in films.

Lo! This topic rapidly approaches 2000. Eek!

(Moon) Could this be another cockold script? Ooops, I didn't even give that a thought. :( If that's the case, I withdraw his name from consideration. Although in the last seven deadly sins movie I saw, the wife's head wound up in a box. (Bethan) just how popular now is Julie Andrews in the US? Would a movie with JA in a starring role attract a lot of media attention and a wide release? No one has seen her for ages. There would be some media attention because she's lost her ability to sing, but not a whole lot of interest. (Laura) She got a great ovation at the Tony Awards when she sang a bit. I wouldn't call what she did at the Tonys singing. It was talk-singing, like Rex Harrison did in My Fair Lady. Speaking of which, that is why she got a great reception. She made her name on Broadway. Also, I'm sure there was a huge element of sympathy. (Laura) I think Julie Andrews would get a good reception. Yeah, they'll be lined up around the block, just like when Angela Lansbury appears in something! ;-p

( Marcia), They make me irrationally furious and I feel the definite urge to dismember a few of the more obnoxious. LOL! Dear Marcianess, you would be doing us a great favour by ridding us of those plebeians. ;-)

You know what, Karen? I'm gonna be in Chicago on the 16th of July!!! So I can't see MLSF then either!!!!! wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

(Bethan--or shall I say Your Majesty?) Wessex was a giveaway....you seem to have blown my cover I'm glad you have a good sense of humor. Seriously, can't you picture the Queen, after a long, hard day of reign, relaxing in front of a computer screen? Complete with requisite feathery hat, of course. I wonder if the pocketbook gets in the way when she moves the mouse? For the production the Saul Zaentz Co. will partner with The Jim Henson Company in the production which will have a budget in the $30 million range. Brian Henson revealed that the seven deadly sin characters will be realized by a "mixture of animatronics and CGI." I have a vision of the "seven deadlies" bearing a strong resemblance to Kermit, Miss Piggy, Elmo, Zoe, Big Bird, etc. (Bethan) and no doubt, soon to come, Mr Darcy acquires a Scottish accent and Mr Darcy tilts at windmills! You bet. I wish they'd get over it, already.

(Eileen) I wonder if the pocketbook gets in the way when she moves the mouse? I wonder how the male monarchs could rule Brittania without a purse. ;-) (I'd like to see her with a shoulder-strap bag one day)

What on earth does she carry in there? OK gang, get out your top 10 lists. 1 Handkerchief 2 Compact 3 Keys 4 Wallet 5 Sugar cubes in case there is a horse nearby 6 ID or Driver's License 7 Chewing gum 8 Sunglasses 9 Dog Biscuits for the errant Corgi 10 Head scarf 11 Prince Philip's pills 12 Notebook for writing store lists 13 Coupons for bargains 14 Snack in case she gets peckish

15 Credit Cards

16 Travellers' Cheques 17 Folding Tiara for the unexpected occasions 18 Passport and Visas 19 Silver whistle for summoning Taxis 20 Cellular phone

She is known never to carry any money. So no wallet or credit cards. (Why are we discussing the Queen here and CF on 72???)

I shall move my lists there. Karen has been stricken speechless. As far as I know, she does not need any of those things, but I forgot to add a roller skate key and a set of Jacks to the collection in case she got bored.

I wanted to let everyone know that "fever Pitch' was mentioned Sunday night on A & E but, I only caught the last couple of seconds since my three year old was not wanting me to hear ANY of it. Most of you will understand. It had something to do with the Arsenal and a plug for our favorite actor.

going back to H.M. As she is not allowed to carry money, I believe it is for show and is always empty!!!!!!

I believe she carries a big bag of breath mints. ;-)

...or just a brick, so she can defend herself at all times!;-)