Have just seen excerpts of RV, on Film 99, JA seems very nice and spoke enthusiastically of Colin, no interview with Colin though only JT & WB. The har is not too puffy and he looks very much like he looked in TEP, was he playing it a bit effeminately, Bethan? what did you think. Not enough Colin, of course, but more than usual. It is to be released in the UK I think, next spring.

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Oh btw Bethan, I forget to answer your recent question, the spokesman for Miramax said that he had been given a release date from BV two weeks ago and I said oh really and then he said 5.5.2000 and I said we have to wait that long and it was then that he said that we only make the films its up to BV when they release it.

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Have just seen excerpts of RV, on Film 99, JA seems very nice and spoke enthusiastically of Colin, no interview with Colin though only JT & WB. The har is not too puffy and he looks very much like he looked in TEP, was he playing it a bit effeminately, Bethan? what did you think. Not enough Colin, of course, but more than usual. It is to be released in the UK I think, next spring.

Yes, Ann, just seen the excerpts of RV. I thought Colin looked very, very cute...I agree, just like Geoffrey, although perhaps with slightly thicker curlier hair (natural colour). His hair looked fine! He was dressed in a dinner jacker, and waistcoat with tie...very formal and smart. Was shown in a scene with JA and Sophie Thompson...adjusting Moxie's hair as they turn her into a lady.Yes, he was playing it a bit effeminately, but it seemed entirely appropriate. JA mentioned CF first, said he played her nephew and "they had wonderful, er, scenes together". She said that all the men were absolutely glorious. Reportage seemed biased to Jeanne Tripplehorn and William Baldwin, both of whom were interviewed, although Colin was mentioned first as part of the star ensemble cast. I thought, briefly, that we might get a soundbite from him, but no, predictably, was not to be! No mention of Stephen Fry or Sophie Thompson.

Thanks for your swift report Ann! Another sighting of Colin! Hope you got it on tape. What makes you say he might have been playing it effeminately? I'll wait for you and/or Bethan to tell us. Amy, how clever of you to use the lesser known Valmont for your students rather than that old warhorse John Malko....um, I mean Dangerous Liaisons. I'm with the other girls who want to know what your students thought. I'd agree with the others that it could only be Playmaker that would use a double and after seeing the film, can you blame him?

No mention of Stephen Fry ? He was shown in a relatively long clip. Re body double: I have never come across any mention of such a possibility with reference to CF outside the Spring discussion boards here. The confusion may have the source in our earlier discussions of the fact that it was not Fairuza Balk's bare bottom which Colin kisses with such gusto in the seduction scene in Valmont: she was about 14 at the time and a body double was indeed used for her.

Thank you Ann and Bethan for the RV report. Saw Harrison Ford on the Today show this AM. He talk about how much he dislikes interviews ,but it is an important part of marketing a film....and I will say Colin's A&E interview was much better.HF also did the face and nose bit.A pity Colin wasn't with the rest of the RV cast. He was dressed in a dinner jacker, and waistcoat with tie...very formal and smart. **sigh**

Amy - Valmont is a great choice to introduce future "fans of firth" into the "club"!! That is the film that first "hooked" me re:CF's amazing talents... I see that movie as a classic, too bad it did not make the waves in the movie industry that it should have...it was SOOO much better than Dangerous Liasons, IMHO. I'll also be interested in hearing what your students thought. Karen - I will never forget the Jeremy Northam scene in Carrington. I saw that movie with my Mom, and while neither of us are "prudes", well, let's just say it was a bit of an (pleasant)eye-opener!!! Too bad that darn door kept swinging back and forth!! Now if I hear someone say they did not like Carrington, I figure they must have fallen asleep before JN appeared on screen (I almost said "came on screen" but of course, they left THAT part to our imagination)!

Ann, thank you very much for the JA interview report. I wish I could see the movie clip of ODB. Hopefully, someone would interview CF as well. (Cymbeline)I read recently that one had been used in some film; can't remember which nor where I read it. Does anyone know where body doubles were used? The only body double that I can think of is in P&P2, the swimming scence. The one actually dove into the lake at Pemberley was not CF. Don't remember the particulars, something to do with CF's insurance company. You can find it out from The Making P&P which mentioned this.

Well, if you really want to know, this class is beginning college composition. The format is pretty loose and the teachers are free to make out of it whatever they want...as long as their students write six papers. The paper for "Valmont" will be pretty basic stuff: analysis of character, plot, setting, or comparing it to either "Dangerous Liaisons" or "Cruel Intentions." My students are loving it because it's just naughty enough to be interesting, but not pornographic in any way. Even the guys like t, because I guess they see themselves as junior Valmonts. (Don't they wish!) I was really cracking up because they kept saying things like: "Man, this is just like 'Cruel Intentions'! They must have based this movie on that." One of my fellow T.A.s was there and said, "Yeah, like they'd ever base anything on a movie with Sarah Michelle Gellar!" They've only watched the first half, and Colin isn't in the first half too much, so I haven't heard any comments on what they think of him yet. I will have trouble being objective when I grade, though, since I adore that movie and just love the story in general. And hey, it is based on a famous work of literature, after all.

"Yeah, like they'd ever base anything on a movie with Sarah Michelle Gellar!" LOL!! Amy, just remember to give a *failing* grade to anyone who prefers John Malkovich in the role. ;-D (Cruel Intentions wasn't that bad; changed the book even more than Valmont!) Thank you, ladies, for the report on the JA interview. I find it hard to understand the enormous push being given to Jeanne Tripplehorn and Billy Baldwin in your country. Here, I understand. The name Baldwin has suddenly assumed the significance as Barrymore as some great acting dynasty. *coughing and wheezing*

(Cymbeline)I read recently that one had been used in some film; can't remember which nor where I read it. Does anyone know where body doubles were used? The only other double I've ever heard of was in Wings of Fame. That is if a stand in can be referred to as a double? At the end of the movie (yes, I watch all CF's movies to the very end--the first time that is) the credits mention a stand-in for CF. Amy, can I join your class??? :)

Thank you, ladies, for the report on the JA interview. I find it hard to understand the enormous push being given to Jeanne Tripplehorn and Billy Baldwin in your country. I've just entirely given up on this one. In the UK, it seems that Hollywood "stars" always take precedence over homegrown actors. Colin and SF were both shown chatting together on set...they were available for interview, but were obviously not asked, although JA mentioned CF first ( she has good taste!).

Thank you Ann and Bethan! He was dressed in a dinner jacker, and waistcoat with tie...very formal and smart. Colin at his Geoffrey best, I can not wait to see this. Amy, Valmont is an excellent choice, brava!

(Jana) That is if a stand in can be referred to as a double?.....the credits mention a stand-in for CF. Don't think so. All the main roles would have stand-ins for the tedious job of standing in while the crew gets things set up. In WoF, Colin might have had a "stunt double." No!! Not for that scene, but for the one where he's hanging off the side of the platform.

Sure you can join my class, Jana! I'm sure you'd be much more amusing than the little fluff-heads I have in there now! When I was trying to decide what movie to have them watch, "Valmont" just seemed like an obvious choice. It's not only one of my favorite movies, but it also has a rather complicated plot, lots of social issues, and interesting (to say the least) characters. And, bien sur, Colin Firth.

Has anyone else seen this blurb? Looks like Coward is becoming very "in" these days. Who wants to bet that Rupert Everett will get into this somehow? Madonna spins into ``Quadrille'' By Michael Fleming NEW YORK (Variety) - Having just wrapped ``The Next Best Thing'' with Rupert Everett, Madonna is on to the next thing, agreeing to star in an adaptation of the Noel Coward play ``Quadrille.'' The film revolves around revenge plans gone awry. A philandering English aristocrat elopes to the south of France with the young wife of an American industrialist. His wife (Madonna) is so incensed that she teams up with the industrialist in pursuit of their spouses, hoping to bring them back to avert scandal. Along the way, the spurned spouses develop a kinship that leads to romance. ``The Next Best Thing,'' directed by John Schlesinger, is scheduled for release next year via Paramount. Described as a biting comedy, the film revolves around a nasty custody battle over a child born to a straight woman (Madonna) and a gay man (Everett). Madonna was last in theaters with 1996's ``Evita.'' Reuters/Variety

(Karen) No!! Not for that scene *chuckle* I've also never read anything official re: doubles except in P&P as Xian mentioned. Good for you, Amy, for your creativity! I'm also a member of the Valmont fan club. I really like CF in this movie, esp. falling in the lake and his scenes with Annette toward the end. I've never understood why he was criticized for being "unconvincing." I watched Cruel Intentions last week. LOL at how Cecile was interpreted--my, she was bouncy, wasn't she? The class has to do six papers, huh? Let's see....P&P should be good for two, then AZ, then Hostages, then Dutch Girls (trying to think of all the ones without explicit sex so you don't get fired). Think they'll notice the trend? ;-P Thanks for your reports, Ann and Bethan. CF was shown and mentioned, two things which haven't happened in the US [yet]. We got Julie answering questions about her vocal cord polyps for the nth time. (Karen) The name Baldwin has suddenly assumed the significance as Barrymore as some great acting dynasty. *coughing and wheezing* Hee hee! Alec's not bad; rec'd raves for his slovenly father portrayal in Outside Providence.

Fever Pitch News: Following the current theatrical release of FP, Phaedra expects to have the video available in the summer of 2000. It should also be on HBO (or other services??) in 2001. Alliance Releasing put the video out in Canada, but it cannot be purchased from Canada and resold here (considered piracy). You however are not prevented from purchasing it and watching it private use. Unfortunately, it is priced to rent - at $80 (US) from Videoflicks.

So NO-ONE wants to go and watch the Yanks next week? Beastly lot. I'm starting to cry now. Colin, Jeremy, Harrison and Denzel will also be quite put out, of course, but......there you are I suppose. Karen, WHEN is FP showing, pray? Thanks.

Hey Ben, you left Rupert out. He hates to be left out.;-)

Does it count if I am in Hawaii yearning to be in NYC and watching the Yankees? I am disappointed at the very least that no one has taken Ben's offer. Beastly lot, indeed! (disgruntled sounds...*frown*)

My class cracked up during the "falling in the lake" scene in "Valmont." I really thought they would hate it, and at first they were saying, "Aw man, this is stupid," but then they got into it once they realized what was going on. I liked some parts of "Cruel Intentions," but I thought the Cecile was horrible. She wasn't sweet and naive--just plain stupid. I guess the writers thought it would be too difficult to put someone so innocent in a modern context. I wish my class had enough time to watch all of those movies, but unfortunately TV sets are hot commodities and sometimes hard to come by in the English department (especially since most of the new T.A.s are running out of things to talk about.) I had to sign up over a week in advance just to get two days to watch "Valmont"! And don't you think that AZ is just a little on the violent side? I was horrified at how much abuse ODB takes in that movie, especially when he gets pushed over the balcony! I nea ly burst into tears!

Oh Good...someone else who hated Cecile. Thought casting could have come up with a much better girl for that role. You will not like Hostages at all if you did not like AZ (I agree with you!)

I never liked this version's Cecile either... Fairuza Balk is an awful actress. Old Henry what's his face from E.T. was inappropriately cast as well, IMHO. I felt as though Milos Forman had cast a bunch of rejects from his past projects-- as their consolation prize for not getting parts in contemporary films.

I think Fairuza Balk was a little too young for the part--she looked like she was about 12! I hated Uma Thurmann as Cecile, though. Henry Thomas couldn't have been any worse than Keanu Reeves as Danceny, right?

(Winter)I felt as though Milos Forman had cast a bunch of rejects from his past projects-- as their consolation prize for not getting parts in contemporary films. LOL, Winter I agree...including MT who was supposed to be in Amadeus, but sprain her ankle...and from his bio I always thought Milos cast Colin because he could get him for less $$$ than anyone else.Not my fave film of Colin's....he does look gorgeous throughout, but I stand with the critics who said he was "unconvincing " as a lecherous French aristocrat.

Well said, Evelyn...sad but true...(ducking to avoid the things surely to be hurled in my direction by more-faithful-than-I Firth-fans)

Ben, as a Noo Yawker, perhaps you can help tell us when and where Fever Pitch will be playing. It's supposed to open October 15 at, I believe, the Village East Theatre near Union Square but someone who actually lives in the city might have a better idea as to the truth of that. As you can tell from your response to your offer of a Yankee game, there aren't that many New York residents among us. Though we'd willingly take up residence on the sidewalks of the theatre to get dibs on "first in line to see olin." (smiley face)

*Amy slings a high-heeled, silver-buckled yellow shoe which Colin wore in the boat scene*

Hey! I did not say he was not adorable and delicious...(grabbing the shoe and tucking it under my arm for exhibit in my Firth Museum and Drooling Gallery, soon to open to a discerning few)

Ha ha, I still have its mate!

What must I say to infuriate you enough to donate the other to the Museum THEATER and Drooling Gallery??? (thinking....*crafty smile creeping across my face*))

Oh, it would have to be dreadful. Have you ever seen a man look so sweet in high heels, hair ribbons, and lace?

...Never in all my born days has any man looked so toothsome as did he in Pony Tail, ribbons, lace and high heels....ooooch!

"Toothsome"? Is that a word?

(I very nearly said lickable from stem to stern, but knowing the ladies here, I did not wish to offend their delicate sensibilities...*lol*)

yup! Tasty...delicious...luscious...(it's in the dictionary!)

Yes, I think they would have went off into gales of sighs and had naughty dreams all night long! (Lickable--deelish!) Remind me to tell you all some time about my very naughty Valmont dream...

Oooooh...remind Amy...remind Amy...(my Email works - just click on my name!)

It sounds like it should mean "having big teeth," or something to that effect. I prefer "ambrosial" or "delectable"--they sound more like what I think of when I think of Valmont!

Um, okay...what am I supposed to be emailing you about?

Oooooh...remind Amy...remind Amy...(my Email works - just click on my name!)

Ummm...some wickedly naughty Valmont dream You had? (and how did my post get put in twice between your two - we must be smokin' the Spring!)

Okay, I emailed you the sordid details of my dream, so read them and enjoy!

...thank you...it has been a while since I was last pixillated by the proximity of puckish Valmont goodies....(waiting by the inbox and trying to look cool...)

Splendid alliteration! 'Twas yummy, was it not? (Even though the end is so disappointing--more for me than for you!)

...I have no idea if it was yummy or not...it is not yet here...alas...the cyber gremlins have abducted it and are turning it into one of those NetNanny sites... (trying to be ever so patient....*sigh*)

Hmm, when I sent it, I got a popup that said it was going to be put in some sort of "send/receive file"--what does that mean? Can I access that somewhere and send it to you, or has my message merely been delayed in Cyberspace? And if they are turning it in to a NetNanny site--EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!!!

Amy, I know what you mean about AZ...I had to stop the video at the point where CF's head hit the floor and the blood started running....(I eventually finished it, but it was waaaaayyyy out there...), while there are many things I liked about that film, (my father was born and raised in Argentina, so I could appreciate the setting), it is not my favorite CF film. "Hostages", while very difficult to watch, was fascinating because of the realism and grittiness of the sets, the physical transformation of the actors, I can't even begin to imagine the toll it must have taken on CF and his co-stars to portray the characters. Let me tell ya, that was a film that I have on video, but I don't know when I will ever watch it again...I just feel like I should have it. Sort of like "Private Ryan", you feel like you were in the battle with them. On the other hand, I watch Valmont at least 3 times a year, similar to Gone With the Wind, just 'cause I LOVE IT!!!

When I saw that falling-over-the-balcony scene in AZ, I screamed like a character from "South Park"--"Oh my God, they killed Colin! You bastards!"

*LOL* I think we all did!!!

I got it, Marcia, I got it! I figured out how to send the message, so go to your email right now! It will not say it's from me, though, but "Delores Foreman," because our email account is in my grandma's name. But that's it! Enjoy!

Now could you forward a copy to Karin? She's a fellow "Valmont" fan and also a fan of my writing, and she would like to read it, too.

shall do! It was lovely!

(Amy) I liked some parts of "Cruel Intentions," but I thought the Cecile was horrible. She wasn't sweet and naive--just plain stupid Oh, I agree. I agree. I had an awful time with her. That dippy, dopey cartwheeling imbecile. She acted way younger than she looked. I know 10 year olds who are more grownup than she was written to behave. (Amy) I think Fairuza Balk was a little too young for the part--she looked like she was about 12! Cecile is only supposed to be 14ish. I think Fairuza Balk was great. Loved those expressions as Valmont is dictating his letter. What did you class think of that scene? ;-D While neither Henry nor Keanu screams Chevalier to me, I'd have to pick our little Henry over Keanu any day. Besides, Keanu hardly had a part in DL. I can throw another version into the mix now. The Roger Vadim version made in 1960, which is set in the present. So Cruel Intentions was not first to update the book.

Unfortunately, my class hasn't got to the part where he dictates the letter--that's on tomorrow's agenda! I can't wait to see what they'll think of it, too!

How lovely was it? I'll admit it wasn't my best story, but hey, I dreamed it!

I could imagine it just as you spoke it and saw it...lovely setting, dewy grass, lovely clothes, handsome Valmont very close to you...and you blew it!!!

Any way for you to go back to that dream and yield to the urges we all feel? No wimping out this time? Starch your knees...and the rest will follow...!

Oh, I'm such a failure! *giggle* I don't think I could go back to that dream--I had it about three years ago, and I could only recount it in such detail because I wrote it down in my diary!

(Marcia) Hey! I did not say he was not adorable and delicious...(grabbing the shoe and tucking it under my arm for exhibit in my Firth Museum and Drooling Gallery, soon to open to a discerning few) (Amy) Ha ha, I still have its mate! LOL! Ladies, you are too funny. If it's October, that sound you hear must be the Red Sox choking. The Curse of the Bambino lives. Ben and Eileen, feel free to gloat:-(

If it's October, that sound you hear must be the Red Sox choking. The Curse of the Bambino lives. Ben and Eileen, feel free to gloat:-( ] Geez, nothing like writing them off so soon! Have faith!!! the Sox will kick some Indian butt!! (Here in Boston!!!) Nomar is da man! Ben, take those damned yankees and scram! You may have Roger (can I get any fatter) Clemens. But we have Pedro and Ramon! go SOX!!!!

(Susan)LOL! Ladies, you are too funny. Aren't we though? You should have been here last night--we were burning up the Spring!

Look, I learned how to use italics! (Applause)

Hey, calm down. This is the sitting room, not the dorm. Here we're meant to sit primly and talk to each other about the weather. May I remind you that French aristocrats bathed but a few times a year? That's why they were covered in powder and scent. But I fancy you'd substituted one sort of dirtiness for another in your dream.... Laura and Susan - I much prefer the BSox to the cheating Indians and would be quite happy to see Boston win the next three. (I used to be a Fenway regular.) Of course, they would only be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Great game last night, with Pettitte delivering the goods. And the Rocket? It's all muscle. Watch him win tomorrow. Can't get in touch with Village East cinema - the number's permanently engaged. But I'll be in that area tomorrow morning, so I can drop in and check.

Amy, I must congratulate you. It took me months of trial and plenty of error before I mastered italics. And I haven't progressed either - italics is all I can do. I have rested on my italic laurels. Next you'll be doing the flashing bit, as it were.

FP in NY The poster is the same as was on the video jacket, but it actually looks like Colin. When it was so small, it didn't look like him. At 31" however, you can clearly see it's Colin's face and you can nearly see the fillings in his teeth. ;-D There are blurbs from British reviews and the Phaedra info on the bottom, as well a Fox Sports commercial. Speaking of which, has anyone seen English League football on Fox Sports this year? Supposedly, there were to be commercials for FP on that channel.

(Ben) So NO-ONE wants to go and watch the Yanks next week? Prefer the comfort of my home vs. crowded, smoke-filled bar in midtown. *Feeling very old, now* (Amy) I liked some parts of "Cruel Intentions," but I thought the Cecile was horrible. She wasn't sweet and naive--just plain stupid (Karen) Oh, I agree. I agree. I had an awful time with her. That dippy, dopey cartwheeling imbecile. She acted way younger than she looked. I know 10 year olds who are more grownup than she was written to behave. IMO since they couldn't get away with putting a v. young year old actress in the role, they cast this dippy broad and told her to "act young." Pew! I'd have to pick our little Henry over Keanu any day. Besides, Keanu hardly had a part in DL I hardly remember him in it. Besides, every time I see Keanu my reaction is "very bad nose job." It distracts me away from his 'acting' :-P Thought Cruel Intentions was creative in casting a black man as Danceny. Ben and Eileen, feel free to gloat :-( Don't believe in gloating (or boasting). Been a Jets fan too long. Besides, I live by 'what goes around comes around.' (Karen) Speaking of which, has anyone seen English League football on Fox Sports this year? Haven't managed to catch any yet. Will pay more attention to the listings. Doubt if Phaedra has a big promo budget (Miramax's treatment of MLSF has made me cynical), so doubt if it would have shown before this week (although they did say September, right?).

Well, Ben, if you thought that was unladylike, you should have read my account of the dream! LOL! Now that I've mastered italics, I wish they would create a way to make accent marks for French! My class is still not finished with "Valmont," but they're still loving it. The girls have decided, since we ended with the part where he leaves Mme de Tourvel high and dry, that they would emasculate the Vicomte. They were squealing over the "passionate" part between Valmont and Cecile, too!

(Amy) he leaves Mme de Tourvel high and dry, that they would emasculate the Vicomte hee hee Tell them not to be so hard on him, since it was only Meg Tilly... hardly cause for such drastic actions. ;-D

Re: accent marks Moon uses them all the time, but I expect you need to change your keyboard over to some international mode.

I know--Meg Tilly has always made me want to throw up, even before I knew that she and Colin were the parents of a son. When I found that out, I said, "Eww, he actually has a child with that pasty-faced, mealy-mouthed thing?" *sigh* I guess Colin doesn't like outspoken Irish redheads...

Finally!!!!! My Life So Far is in my area. Will see it tomorrow!!! However, will have to travel 100 miles to do so--about 90 minutes in the car. (Not so bad when the spend limit is 75mph).

Opps!!! I mean speed limit

Jana, Your patience (and mileage) will be rewarded when you see the film...in fact, you may want to stay and see it twice to catch parts missed the first time, I know I did..well..actually I saw it 4 times, but that's because I was the troop leader for getting as many friends and relatives to see CF and the film!! One of your rewards will be the dinner table scene, where innocent Frasier (CF's son), will totally crack you up! Be sure to look at the interior of the castle, can you imagine living there, much less with CF!!! Have a safe drive! Karin

Thanks Karin. Will look for every intricate detail. I thought about seeing it more than once since it has five showings per day. My brother lives in the town where I am going so I'm thinking about going up tonight for the 9:40 p.m. show.

Anyone know when MLSF will be in DC? Any hope at all? And can anyone tell me how tall ODB is? In all the facts I've read on every site, I can't remember reading that. And I must have all the vital statistics.

Valmont was on the movie channel yesterday afternoon. This is the first movie that I saw Kevin in. I thought he had the most beautiful smile in the scen at theopera and I was hooked. I didn't connect him with Valmont though when I saw P&P. I didn't know it was the same actor until I found Robins site and FOF. Thats what so great about him, he looks entirely different in almost every role. If you ever go to ROP look up Young Fitzwilliam Darcy in the archives, it's by Inko. In one of the last chapters she had Darcy on a trip to Italy and France after the defeat of Napoleon. He meets Cecil and has an affair with her. She is struck by his resemblence to Valmont. Her husband and son are dead and she is living in Italy.

(Cymbeline)And can anyone tell me how tall ODB is? He is 6'1 (Karin)in fact, you may want to stay and see it twice to catch parts missed the first time, I watched MLSF three times and still could not catch all of it (i.e. I did not see the thin hair of ODB - too caught up with his beautiful smile and the crowd with a big net down there). For the first show, there were two ladies sitting behind me and almost laught from beginning to the end loudly, I mean LOUDLY! I was struggling on a decision of changing seat or shout back. I did not want to miss any scene (since CF was always there) and not used to conflict with others, so I remained quiet. I can not bla m them because they seem to enjoy the film very much and I swear that they were there again when I went to MLSF the third time, because I heard the familiar sound of laugh. But this time, it was far from me (lucky me!)

I have been over at Murph's site reading about Colin's antics on the set of RV. She says JA was laughing at him. I seem to recall Gwenyth going on in a couple of her interviews, about what fun he was and how he kept them laughing all through the making of SIL. KST too talks about how great he is to work with.

Sorry about calling Colin Kevin, my son Kevin came into the room to ask me a question when I was typing.

Valmont was on the movie channel yesterday afternoon. This is the first movie that I saw Kevin in. I thought he had the most beautiful smile in the scen at theopera and I was hooked. I didn't connect him with Valmont though when I saw P&P. I didn't know it was the same actor until I found Robins site and FOF. Thats what so great about him, he looks entirely different in almost every role. If you ever go to ROP look up Young Fitzwilliam Darcy in the archives, it's by Inko. In one of the last chapters she had Darcy on a trip to Italy and France after the defeat of Napoleon. He meets Cecil and has an affair with her. She is struck by his resemblence to Valmont. Her husband and son are dead and she is living in Italy.

That story sounds very interesting, Lucie. I'll have to check it out some time. Darcy and Cecile. Who would have thought? (I wouldn't have her child by Valmont die, though. I'd have him look like the twin of Darcy, or something.) You are forgiven for your little mistake. 6'1" is such a perfect height, is it not?

Sorry about calling Colin, Kevin. My son Kevin wasled into the room to ask me a question while I was typing.

{Amy)6'1" is such a perfect height, is it not? But some people on P&P/ROP board said that he was not tall enough for Darcy (compare with P&P1 - can you believe that?).

From reading "P&P," I never got the idea that Darcy was a towering giant. Also, during Jane Austen's time, 6'1" would have been quite tall indeed.

I saw "Dreaming of Joseph Lees" tonight, which is directed by Eric Styles, the director of Relative Values. It is a fabulous film, especially when you consider that this was his first feature ever. He had been a documentary filmmaker at BBC Wales, and the script came from his researcher (she had this 200 page script lying around). Eric Styles was at the screening and took questions from the audience afterward. BTW, there was a lot of applause because the film is well, well done. I was particularly struck by a scene involving boxing because Fight Club was in the news today and the public's reaction to it has been very bad. What Styles showed mirrored public reaction. Seemed very timely. Anyway I digress. Very lovely film all around. Excellent performances by Samantha Morton and the lovely Rupert Graves. (Can't remember the ot er guy's name who is a lead.) Holly Aird is also in it and the girl who played the younger sister is totally engaging without being cloyingly precocious. Styles mentioned Relative Values and how it was totally different from this film. He said it would be out in the spring. This film will open in NY and LA (where else!) on October 29th, and then other cities a couple of weeks after. It is very much like a Mrs. Brown or other BBC type dramas, but it does rise up and distinguish itself as being more suitable to the big screen.

Does anybody notice that before the picture of Jess (at the Drool door) loaded up, there is "Pizza delivery man" shown in the picture position? I assume that it is the name of the picture (link) file. Is that how they call Jess, ODB?? Man, I can have pizza every day for rest of my life if he delivers ;))

Hmm...you've all moved on at such a pace, that I hesitate to return to Film 99 and RV! But I've studied my recording, and concluded that I've given the wrong impression by saying that Colin is playing his character effeminately. He certainly looks and sounds very masculine. It's just that in one of the scenes shown, he is putting an ear-ring on Sophie Thompson's ear, to help her play the part of a "lady" at dinner, not exactly a laddish action...but then Noel Coward isn't laddish. Definitely thumbs up for his appearance in this one BTW. Hair is shortish (no signs of thinning!), but less severely cut than in TEP, no hair oil....basically he looks like himself! The clip shown was titled "Rough Cut" and is distributed by Alliance Atlantis. Is MLSF still wending its way around the cities and suburbs of the US?

LOL, Xian! Hmmmm, I think I'm suddenly in the mood for Domino's :-). Congratulations JanaC - I'm glad MLSF finally made it to your area. Well, that is if you can count within 100 miles as still being your area. Hope you enjoy it!

Yes well done JanaC, have a safe journey and we look forward to your report on your return. Hope you don't mind my asking Jana but where exactly is it playing near you albeit within 100mmiles, I love to keep track of where it has played. I really can't wait for it to get to the UK as although I am hoping to see SLOW and in RV he looks good, I think that in the looks department this will be a droolers paradise (how shallow can you get Ann). I hope the reels won't be worn out by the time it has done the ro nds of the US, May is so long to wait!!

6'1" is the height a young man ought to be if he possibly can. I hope you all don't mind my reporting that I dreamed about ODB for the first time ever last night. Nothing too pizza deliveryish if you know what I mean. I was at a screening of the sequel to Apt Zero, in which he starred of course, and he was there in the flesh as well. That's about it, but progress, no?

Great to hear that MLSF is finally within range of you, JanaC! Since I don't see it playing in Tucson or Phoenix, is it in Mexico? ;-D Cymbeline, MLSF played in DC for a week or two at the beginning of its run in August. It was one of the 10 initial cities. It hasn't been to Richmond yet, if that's a possibility, but I'll let you know if I hear it playing in any cities in that general region. (Bethan) I've given the wrong impression by saying that Colin is playing his character effeminately. So Peter's butch? ;-D

I'm thinking about possible costume dramas for ODB since he's such a natural whatever the garb. What do you say? The life of Sir Richard Burton, explorer, adventurer, author of the x-rated translation of the The Arabian Nights. Lots of horse time, lots of scope for displays of uxorious love b/c I don't believe his devoted wife ran off with Ralph Fiennes, and lots of swashbuckling Charles Darnay/Sidney Carton, the tragic revolutionary roue And We seek him here, we seek him there. If he were with us anywhere We'd be in heaven though it were hell, A gorgeous Firthian Pimpernel. Leslie Howard was good. CF would be great.

A pizza delivery man?? Not like it wouldn't be delightful to have him bring my pizza piping hot and fresh (*giggle*) and certainly I would give him a HUGE tip, but do you realize how perfectly ridiculous our aristocratic sweetheart would look?

Meaning in one of those absurd red and blue Domino's uniforms. I didn't make myself clear.