Oh Karen...thank you...this pic is much better...you can see he has his eyes closed. Savoring the moment....

Karen says: What do you mean "Lisbeth says"???? That is what Bethan posted earlier today verbatim!! *********** Karen: Is my face red. I meant Bethan's Drool name - Lizbeth54! I apologize to everyone. It is the heat around here - 95 plus. Murph

After reading the comment about an "off-screen rape" from an NBC reviewer, my first reaction was "what rape?" I saw "a clumsy and unscuccessful attempt at a kiss and a grope" as Bethan stated. I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but, Edward just wanted a kiss as Heloise had given Fraser. She states that he is a child. Heloise then gives Edward a peck on the cheek. When he attempts more, she screams and they have words. That is all, IMO. Besides when she returns to the castle and looks at the mirror, she seems more concerned for the loss of the choker that Morris gave her than the loss of her virtue (that's why I doubt there was a rape). There are a few more scenes which I feel supports this Hope you don't mind my venting, but I just had to give my opinion on the subject. JanaJH, sorry I missed you, I went to the matinee performance. No one from Miramax was there to question the audience ... and not at this morning's viewing at the Westside Pavilion. Again, it was a small theater, but it was packed and audience enjoyed themselves. I overheard a couple of ladies say, "what a joy" and "I loved it."

You've been twice Marianne?, I am so envious, did you like it as much the second time around. Please join the discussion on 121 re MLSF, I love reading everyone's opinions. Unlike Karen, I don't mind hearing what everyone has to say it only adds to the anticipation but I understand Karen why you do not won't to know too much and the 4th August is not far away, you lucky lady.

Hey, go right ahead and discuss!! I can skim right over the stuff. No big deal. I'll live. ;-D

Marianne, Murph, Susan and others who have commented on the so-called rape - just a quickie to say I agree with you. I thought Edward was trying to do a fumbly, teenage, kissy thing only. I'll post more at 121 later today. I hope to see you all there!

(Marianne) I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but, Edward just wanted a kiss as Heloise had given Fraser. She states that he is a child. Heloise then gives Edward a peck on the cheek. When he attempts more, she screams and they have words. That is all, IMO. Marianne, thanks for confirming that I'm not losing my mind. I also thought it was nothing more than a clumsy attempt at a kiss. In fact, I think the audience I was with even laughed when Heloise screamed. Not to belabor the point, but... I seem to recall that, when MLSF was being filmed, either Colin or a reporter described Edward as "an eccentric inventor who *comes close to* deceiving his wife," or something like that. And further support that Edward isn't a rapist is in Colin's remark in today's Parade magazine describing Edward as "an immature man who makes an ass of himself..." -- someone who had actually raped his future sister-in-law would be far worse than an ass;-)

Ann W, what's not to enjoy about gazing at CF in rapt attention. Yes, I liked MLSF just as much the second time around ... I promise you, you'll be laughing and smiling once you see it.

As boys used to say (and maybe still do), Edward was trying to "cop a feel"!! ;-D

I'm so tempted to peek at 121 but I shall try to restrain myself for two more weeks. I'm glad there are enough of you lucky girls to maintain a rousing conversation over there. Elena)I feel funny to bring up something as old as ATA but I want to say a couple of words about it because I saw it today for the first time. First of all, I've forgotten to welcome you back, Elena. We've missed you. Secondly, talk all you want about ATA! I just watched it again (well, parts of it) yesterday and my oh my, he is something to drool over, isn't he. Karen, you pegged the perfect shot of him leaning in the doorway. And yes, Elena, love that jogging scene. Forget the histrionics, we can just concentrate on sweetie looking very fine and lean. I wish we could have seen more of him. For instance, I'd have loved to see him actuall play baseball rather than stand in the outfield looking a bit out of his depth. Tell me, Elena. Now that you're watching this film multiple times, do you find yourself turning it off after the courtroom scene? No more Colin.

(Heide) Tell me, Elena. Now that you're watching this film multiple times, do you find yourself turning it off after the courtroom scene? No more Colin. Oh, do others do this as well? ;-D

What a coincidence. Oh to see Colin in tights... Noticed this in The Times: FIRST NIGHT: Debra Craine sees the Royal Ballet unveil the world premiere of The Turn of the Screw What evil lurks within the heart When you are telling a ghost story, atmosphere is everything. And thanks to Steven Scott's inspired design conception, William Tuckett's dance adaptation of The Turn of the Screw has atmosphere to spare. The evil of Henry James's novel hangs over the Sadler's Wells stage like a murky and intractable fog. It shrouds the Governess and her two young charges in an indefinable menace which seems to suck them into the very walls of their haunted country house. It can do this because Scott's set projections are magic tricks of light that summon up ghostly images of house and garden through which the dancers pass with a spectral ease. The inside-outside effect, like the story itself, is elusive and intriguingly ambiguous. Tuckett's handling of the narrative is less satisfactory, strong on suggestion but over-elaborate in detail. His one great idea is to cast a male dancer in the role of Miss Jessel, not to give the part any connotation of "drag" but to strip the character of her sexuality and thus give her an otherworldliness entirely fitting to the plot. Her relationship to Peter Quint, and to the children, here becomes even more ominous and oblique. Having two men as his ghosts allows Tuckett to create a strong predatory dance language for them, while contrasting that for the Governess, which unfolds in slowly developing phrases coloured by a strange yearning. His choice of music, Andrzej Panufnik's Arbor cosmica, a set of "12 Evocations for 12 Strings", is full of mood but not as theatrical as the ballet would clearly like. The casting is superlative. Zenaida Yanowsky is an elegant dancer possessed of wonderfully long lines, but as the Governess she proves herself a first-class actress. There is a handsome Victorian propriety to her that struggles heroically against the wildness of the violence and sexual hunger which surround her. Irek Mukhamedov is the creepy Peter Quint, a powerful malevolence whose abusive pursuit of young Miles (Ricardo Cervera) is truly dangerous and unsettling. A bald-headed Bruce Sansom is a nightmarish Miss Jessel in a gown, relishing a rare opportunity to recast himself in evil guise. And it's great to welcome back Monica Mason to the stage. Mrs Grose may be a small part but there is nothing small about the impression Mason creates. ********** Is Colin's character supposed to be creepy? Do you think he'll go see this?

Well I telephoned Miramax today and they say there is still no definite release date for the UK, could be October but more likely November, good for the ladies coming over to see 3DOR in November, they will be able to see it here as well as having seen it in the US!!! She told me to ring back in a couple of months when she should have a definite date. She did, however, say that it might be shown at the London Film Festival, does anyone know when that is and that if anyone belongs to the BFI we can get ad ance information, does anyone lurking or not belong to the BFI and when is the LFF? The reason it is not being shown at the Edinburgh FF is because it was not ready in time.Surely it wil be released before Colin gets involved in 3DOR and rehearsals. 3-4 months is just too long to wait!!

(Heide)my oh my, he is something to drool over, isn't he. Oh, YES.....and to think that he had his arm around you Heide, not so long ago!!! I suppose you haven�t washed your raincoat after that? :-) (Heide)do you find yourself turning it off after the courtroom scene? I watched ATA only once from beginning to the end and now I�m interested in the Colin moments only.(Michelle Pfeiffer is great in it too IMO.) I�m not sure if there is material enough to discuss ATA more thoroughly except for Colin�s performance which I think is interesting in many ways. For instance: Do you think he really fits in this role? Jess is supposed to be just a handsome, charming and irresponsible farm guy but Colin makes him look much more than that. Maybe he looks a bit more mature than Jess is supposed to be.

Ann - when is the LFF? 3-18 November. Programme will not be available until late September. Disappointing news still from Miramax.

(Ann W) ...3-4 months is just too long to wait!! Agreed, but IMO, autumn (the later the better) is the right time for this film to be released. Maybe Miramax is hoping for BAFTA recognition and will promote the h*** out of MLSF in the UK, after the good critical notices it has received here. And you will, at least, see it. Are we ever going to see FP on the big screen - I would so like to have the adorable Paul up close and big.

From The Hollywood Reporter this a.m.: "Miramax debuted 'My Life So Far' in five sites and took in an estimated $50,000. The coming-of-age drama averaged a solid $10,000 per theater..." "solid" - sounds encouraging :)

So perhaps they will start pushing it a bit harder, come on Miramax, publisize it ast least as well as you did for AIH. BTW how did that do in the US, it was only as moderate hit over here. Hi Aishling, thanks for that info. and there was I thinking we would be getting to see it earlier if it was shown at the LFF. She did say there would be a Premiere, how to get tickets?!

A belated welcome, Marianne! C'mon over to 121 for more detailed MLSF discussion. Re: the "rape": It's likely the MSNBC reviewer didn't take the time to consider the social mores of 1920s Scotland. Merely making a pass at another woman would be cheating back then. These days, certain world leaders have oral sex which isn't really sex and therefore isn't cheating! If you mistakenly apply today's much looser moral values to the situation in the movie, you'd come to the erroneous conclusion that Edward had sex with Heloise. (Lynda) Maybe Miramax is hoping for BAFTA recognition and will promote the h*** out of MLSF in the UK I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't be holding my breath for any big Miramax promotion. The MLSF ad in yesterday's NY Times was so small I had to search carefully for it. On its opening weekend, no less! It started in Cannes and has become ever more apparent they're not sinking a whole lotta dough into promoting this movie (as opposed to 'IH'). But let's see what happens as it opens in more cities across the US.

"Miramax debuted 'My Life So Far' in five sites and took in an estimated $50,000. The coming-of-age drama averaged a solid $10,000 per theater..." Yeeeeesssssss! Ohh, Harvey....now how about a few TV commercials?

A solid start, excellent, hey Eileen and Jana, and everyone else are you going to copy Marianne and go for a second and third! time, must keep the momentum going and Karen will you be taking a car load when you go on the 4th! Oh I wish I could be there and go with you all, its so exciting, but I guess Aishling, Bethan, Lizza, Allison & I will just have to be patient, at least she didn't say there aren't any plans to release it in the UK, she wouldn't have dared! Heide when are you going to see it?

just a quickie hello to everyone... hi! things have been very hectic as i've just started a new summer job. I'm playing hooky (somwhat) from work this a.m... will try to be a good firthette like marianne and jana, and go see MLSF.

(Ann) I will just have to be patient Dear Ann, in this case you are actually quite lucky to live in the UK and not somewhere else in Europe. I�m sure you�ll see MLSF this year! But I and many others will have to wait for yearS, possibly. My earliest chance to see it is if the release date of the film is so close to the end of the year that it could still run in London in January! But I guess that�s not very probable. How long do films usually go in the cinemas in Britain if they get the normal quantity of audience? Hmmm.....if it�ll open in London in November, could it possibly last two months??

Hello, Dame Winter! I�m posting from work as well........a baaad habit :-)

It could still be going into January, Elena if it does reasonably well. Hello Winter, look forward to hearing what you think of MLSF. BTW I don't quite understand Miramax's strategy, wouldn't it be best to release MLSF wider this weekend whilst it is doing relatively well rather than wait a fortnight when people may have forgotten about it, not us of course but the general film paying public.

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(Ann) BTW I don't quite understand Miramax's strategy I'm beginning to wonder if they're trying to copy the same "word of mouth" strategy they used with SiL in the early, pre-Oscar hype days. But the pre-release buzz about SiL was very strong. There's been no buzz about MLSF other than "it's been on the shelf for two years, what's wrong with it?" Time will tell...

(AnnW) wouldn't it be best to release MLSF wider this weekend whilst it is doing relatively well rather than wait a fortnight when people may have forgotten about it Important thing to remember is that reviews have NOT appeared in the local papers of the next 8 cities. The reviews have only been in NY/LA papers and national-type places (newspapers and internet news sites). In the next 8 cities, they have barely heard a whisper about this movie, especially as there are have been no ads in the papers or commercials on TV (not to mention the dearth of trailers in the theaters)!! Also, there's the issue of screens. The Blair Witch expands this coming weekend and you better believe it's going to take over a lot of screens. It's playing around the corner from me on 3/4 screens. Walked past the place and there was a sign up saying all shows were sold out. Earlier questions re: An Ideal Husband: Did poorer than anticipated (wasted promotional money) and is moving to the second-run theaters.

Good to hear from you Aishling. You always bring us good statistics. Good to hear about the London FF. ******* Ann, BFI has a website...call them in London. They're in Soho ..not far from ICM. They will gladly sell you a ticket. Last year, they previewed B&H. ****** (Karen) TOTS .....creepy Peter Quint, a powerful malevolence whose abusive pursuit of young Miles (Ricardo Cervera) is truly dangerous and unsettling. Another gay implication? Doesn't this guy ever take "plain Joe-Six-Pack"roles? Thank god for Joe Prince!! ****** The later it opens in London, the better our chances of seeing it in mid-Jan. but I bet they release it before 3 DOR starts ... I will be disappointed if it isn't a run-a-way success in UK.

So willI, I have already arranged for a part of friends to come with me when it does eventually open. BTW I told the publicity lady this morning that my friends in America who had seen MLSF were raving about it, hope thats okay!!

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So willI, I have already arranged for a part of friends to come with me when it does eventually open. BTW I told the publicity lady this morning that my friends in America who had seen MLSF were raving about it, hope thats okay!!

(Eileen)But the pre-release buzz about SiL was very strong. There's been no buzz about MLSF SIL was the most expensive movie that Miramax has ever produced....$40 Mil. Also SIL had two US actors that are "heavy -hitters"; GP & BA.They worked their buns off for this film.MLSF cost $10. Mil.Miramax must figure they'll get their money back on it. Let's hope so. Karen, did you say that the reason that MLSF is not being shown at the Edinburgh FF is that it wasn't finished in time ??

No, I did!

I meant to comment on that Edinburgh thing. What a crock!! The final date for submission at Edinburgh was end of April as I recall (that was all the information available at their website for the longest time). And when was it shown at Cannes? Puh-leeez! When I look at the program for Edinburgh, I hardly think this film fits in with the New Wave British/Scottish films that are being showcased. The opening night one is that Scottish Ratsomething movie that played in Cannes.

(Eileen) Re: the "rape": It's likely the MSNBC reviewer didn't take the time to consider the social mores of 1920s Scotland. Merely making a pass at another woman would be cheating back then. Considering that he only got a few other details wrong too (Fraser is a "12-year-old...) I begin to question whether Mr. Bob Campbell took the time to pay attention to the movie at all. Who was it said that "interviews often tells us more about the interviewer than the interviewee"? Perhaps the same can be said for certain REVIEWS!! He read that "rape" into it so he could have something to be outraged enough to give him an excuse to trash it, IMHO.

Don't despair about waiting so long to see it in your cinema, Elena. MLSF may be in video by Christmas and you know we like to share the wealth.;-) Something probably better discussed in springfolks. Ann, since I'm in a "second-tier" city, I expect to see MLSF August 7. Glad to see you've got a carload ready to go with you. (Karen) Oh to see Colin in tights Or those bulging muscles. LOL!! What a picture.

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Sorry about that Heide. :-( I wonder which "tier" Seattle is in.....:-(

Isn't Seattle in the Top 10? It should be playing there August 6.

Apparently MLSF is #48 in the Box Office this weekend, well done ladies, tell all your friends about it so that when it gets a wider release it will be much much higher. Come on Harvey gives us a little help, more publicity please!!!

Apparently MLSF is #48 in the Box Office this weekend ] But there are only 47 movies open??? (hee hee, that is humor!)

Finally, I did get to log on. I have missed reading all the posts. I think that it must be my computer. I read a little article in Madem. About MLSF and they are giving it a great review. I cannot wait to see it. Whenever, you get to see CF that much it really makes your day, week, month, year. I am sure that SIL will be at the video stores soon! Hi Ann and Evelyn. Long time.

Just had an email from Adi...our Firth-sister in Israel. She is traveling in the US and Canada this summer. Retrieved my email and booked her tickets for 3 DOR. She will join us at the Millennium Spring Reunion on Jan. 15th. Cool, uh?

Good to see you back on line, Rita! Adi's timing couldn't be better. She should be able to catch MLSF in one of the big cities, unless she's doing the nature thing (Grand Canyon, Yosemite, etc.) ;-D AnneR, who has misplaced her password, found this in today's Guardian: Manx's pony� Meanwhile, Billy Baldwin (not to be confused with his fellow actor brothers Daniel, Stephen or Mike) is another one rejecting the mainland, as he flies in to the Isle of Man later this week to start a month-and-a-half-long stint shooting Noel Coward's Relative Values alongside an "all-star" cast including Julie Andrews, Colin Firth, Stephen Fry and Sophie (sister of Emma) Thompson.

Come on Harvey give us a little help, more publicity please!!! Re: publicity -- next month Miramax's new maggie "Talk" is supposed to hit the stands. Tina Brown, formerly of Vanity Fair, is the editor, famous for knowing how to "create buzz" (i.e. the famous Demi Moore pregnant nude cover). Would not this publication be the ideal vehicle for a nice, in-depth feature article/interview/cover story on ODB?

Here's People Magazine's MLSF review (from the 8/2/99 issue): My Life So Far Colin Firth, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio [no picture :-(] Growing up in a misty castle in rural Scotland in the mid-30's, the 10-year-old (Robert Norman) at the center of this minor coming of age movie barely notices that his beloved dad (Firth), a dilettante inventor, and mom (Mastrantonio) are drifting apart. Basically the boy is too busy perusing Victorian sex manuals left in the attic by his grandpa to realize that his father has a crush on another woman (Irene Jacob). My Life So Far, directed by Hugh Hudson (Chariots of Fire), is an elegant mood piece, as decorative and delicate as fine lace and no less superfluous. The Scottish scenery, however, is a knockout. (PG 13) Bottom line: pat period piece but easy on the eyes. Well, it's not great, but they didn't kill it all together. BTW, the scenery is not what makes it easy on the eyes...wait until you see CF in those costumes! The Entertainment Weekly review (posted by Karen last Friday) appears in this week's issue along with the standard picture of CF hugging MEM (it was a nice size and you can tell his eyes are open, Evelyn). They gave it a C :-(. There's nothing about MLSF in this week's Newsweek.

Cool indeed about Adi, Evelyn! What a group!I just know I'll be banging my head on the wall for not going! Rita, always good to have you with us! Can you not go back to the posts you missed and read them? Let me (us)know if I (we)can help.

Murph has two new "hold-on-to -your-hat" pics of ODB on the Home Page. One is an "up, close and personal"of DB signing autographs at SIL. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4144/index.html ******* (Gi)Re;Millennium Reunion I just know I'll be banging my head on the wall for not going! A weekend in London to celebrate the new Millenium...? You wouldn't have to attend THE PLAY . You ('n A.) could just meet us for the dinner.... and go on to see something else on the West End. TRT might be on.With luck even MLAF. Tempting? I'm sure we can work up a perfectly innocentscenario :-)

(Karen)"...as he flies in to the Isle of Man later this week to start a month-and-a-half-long stint shooting Noel Coward's Relative Values alongside an "all-star" cast including Julie Andrews, Colin Firth," Hmmm, I think I like the description of CF as an all-star! And Hi, winter. It's good to see you here. Missed ya, honey :-). P.S. I experimented with embedding bold text within italics. I hope I did it right and apologize in advance if I screw up the tags.

Hi Rita, good to have you with us again, will you get a chance to see MLSF, are you anywhere near Dallas, I believe it opens there on the 6th August.?

(Karen) Isn't Seattle in the Top 10? It should be playing there August 6. Lynda was so good to report on that matter last July 7 (Thank you!). According to her librarian, the top 10 markets were: NY, LA, Chicago, Baltimore/DC, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Boston, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Detroit, Atlanta. Don't see Seattle in there anywhere. (*SOB*) :-(

Financial Times Review of the play PRIDE & PREJUDICE currently on at the Stratford FF in Canada. (Laura and Teg attended and gave us their reivew) Financial Times: ". Another entry in the Family Entertainment stakes was Christina Calvit's adaptation of Pride and Prejudice, which was very well done. Geordie Johnson's Darcy vied with the BBC's Colin Firth in the strong-but-choked division, though denied any wet see-through shirt. Lucy Peacock captured Austen's prickly, articulate, slightly waspish Elizabeth far more closely than the BBC's wet-eyed heroine, appealing though she was. But the second half fell back upon endless narrations of off-stage events, and it beca e a mere reading, not a real play at all" **** Oh yeah... No wet shirt...no Darcy.!!And "wet-eyed" indeed...how about "twinkling" .

OK, so I didn't have the Top 10 memorized! ;-D How on earth can Detroit be in there? No one lives in Detroit. OK, who am I offending? Your embedded tags worked just perfect, Jana. Congrats. I too liked seeing Colin included in a list of "all stars." I've also liked that most of critics consider the MLSF cast top notch actors. Would be nice if they singled Colin out in a positive way though... BBC's Colin Firth in the strong-but-choked division, though denied any wet see-through shirt. hee hee No one else can measure up in all the important categories!! ;-D

Lucy Peacock captured Austen's prickly, articulate, slightly waspish Elizabeth far more closely than the BBC's wet-eyed heroine, appealing though she was. Are they kidding? JE is Elizabeth Bennet.

Are they kidding? JE is Elizabeth Bennet. ] Lucy Peacock was GREAT!!! and she more resembled Austen's description of Lizzy then JE did.

(Laura)Lucy Peacock was GREAT!!! and she more resembled Austen's description of Lizzy then JE did . Can "you document that" or is that IYO. (hee hee)

Can "you document that" or is that IYO. (hee hee) ] I have a picture of both the actors playing Elizabeth and Darcy, I could scan it in and you can figure it out for yourselves. But I think most people here would criticize the looks of the actors because they are not CF and JE. However Lucy Peacock is a beautiful woman in her own right. And the man who played Darcy is very handsome in his own right. I'll scan the pic and send to someone to make it HTML friendly. You guys make up your own mind.

Please do, Laura, I would like to see them. But also remember that looks aren't the only thing that counts here... "They must have a certain air, ecc" ;-)

Oh, I have only posted once but after reading the above, could not contain myself. Yes, looks are inportant but the main characters must have chemistry and they had it in spades. They are the quintensential Darcy & Elizabeth--they didn't have to have dialogue, their eyes & body language said it all. Why else, you might ask, would the UK,US & the pacific rim. go completely bananas over this version.Thru the kindness of Evelyn, I have been priviledged to view other JE films & have become a staunch fan, Sh is beautiful, multi-talented and she and CF were fated to make this film. They ARE DARCY & ELIZABETH.

There are three new clips from MLSF available to view. The first one (Slank) is Malcolm McDowell; the second (Moss) is Irene Jacob and kid, with Colin's head peeking up into the mossloft; and the third (grey hair) is Rosemary Harris and the kid. Wot?!!!! Nothing featuring the STAR of the movie!! Sheesh!! (Do I sound ticked?) They are relatively smaller files than the trailer, so go to it.. ;-D http://www.nytimes.com/library/film/072399life-film-review.1.ram.html

(Laura) Lucy Peacock was GREAT!!! and she more resembled Austen's description of Lizzy then JE did. The only description of Lizzy's appearance in the book is that she had dark eyes. There is another passage in chapter 49, where she is described as being "lighter" than Jane. Jane Austen never describes the appearance of the people or buildings in her books, a fact that has been the subject of much discussion among literary critics. I do not question the fact that Lucy Peacock may have been a credible and accurate Elizabeth, but I simply I disagree with the opinion than JE did not portray her as she Jane Austen wrote her. I consider JE's portrayal the definitive one, and will always be EB to me. You have the advantage of having seen the play at Stratford, which the majority of us have not. (EllieP)[JE] is beautiful, multi-talented and she and CF were fated to make this film. They ARE DARCY & ELIZABETH. Hear! Hear!

EllieP)[JE] is beautiful, multi-talented and she and CF were fated to make this film. They ARE DARCY & ELIZABETH. (Lidya)Hear! Hear Thank you Jennifer fans..... LOL. Nothing like a little controversy to stir things up on a borrring HOT summer day. Eh, Laura? (Hey gang....L. and I are good friends...I tease her about postulating opinions....all in good fun ;-) ) But by all means , bring on the pictures...wanna see the generics next to the real thing !! ***** Hey,...I'm having a hard week...over at the P&P board I had to take on criticisms about Lizzie being "fat" and not running gracefully!! All in a day's work :-)

I also say hear, hear and agree that JE is definitely multi-talented and I am of that opinion even more so after seeing her in the thrilling and spell-binding The Real Thing at the Donmar for the second time this week. Back to ODB, according to The Radio Times today, The Turn of the Screw is a one off drama and is due to be screened at Christmas. Wonderful a festive feast of Firth, what with 3DOR, possibly MLSF in the cinema, TTOTS and maybe DQ. One other thing the invisible CF continues, I subscribe to a Film magazine TOTAL FILM and today they reviewed forthcoming videos and gave SIL 4stars, listed the cast including MC and RE and guess who they omitted. I'm seriously thinking of stopping my subscription, I'll show them !! (whom I kidding).

Lizzie fat! - they should see JE now, if anything she is too thin! don't you agree Evelyn?

(Ann) The Turn of the Screw is a one off drama and is due to be screened at Christmas. Merry Firthmas everybody...what a great present.Thanks Ann.But pl. what does "one off drama" mean? Is it a drama in one episode? **** No trailer of CF....not listed for SIL in film mag....CF, "The Stealth Star"!!

CF, "The Stealth Star"!! One of these days we will hear that there will be another remake of "The Invisible Man", and guess with whom in the title role? ;-)

LOL Renate. Yes Evelyn, one-off is a drama in one episode. I wish it was a six episode serial but a one-off is okay as it will probably be a two hour episode.

I believe DQ is a one-off as well, I guess that explains how he can manage to do TTOTS and RV so close to each other.

http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/tb_display.cgi?id=3969#69325 Been to Harry Knowles' recently? Here's an excerpt of the last message: "There are 32 curling extras here in Argyll, Scotland who'd like to know if the 4 days they spent doing it ended up on the cutting room floor. E Mail please to lengow@drimsynie.co.uk" I think they deserve a reply, don't they?

Yes, I'll scan the picture in. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I recall the reviewers saying that JE looked heavy in the role of E, but I think costuming had a lot to do with that. She's not willowy. Now RE: chemistry between CF and JE, they were an "item" at the time, that probably had a lot to do with it. Um, Lucy Peacock has dark brown hair, and dark eyes, she is willowy and tallish. (and she is married and has two children, but doesn't look like she's had any! okay, more info than you guys wanted.) Yes, Evelyn and I are good friends, even if I haven't talked to her in ages! (sorry, Evelyn, will be better!) and it is HOT!!!

I am in Ketchikan, Ak visiting my on and his family. I brought my P&P with me . They are crazy about it. Including the 3 teenagers who are back in Bryan's bedroom now watching it for the third time. But then they have good taste.

Laura, JE is definitely willowy NOW. I do think that her weight fuluctuates though, I though she looked terrible thin in the first proposal scene and more rounded but womanly later on and the costumes of course, accentuated this.

JE not willowy enough for some at RoP? Tell me something new. Some people there complain that Colin Firth wasn't tall enough. And some even say that Rintoul (who looked like he had swallowed his walking stick was a better Darcy - even though he couldn't have been taller - chiefly because Colin was showing too much emotion... Can you believe it? Horrors. visiting my on Forgive my ignorance, but what's an on?

Have followed up, Renate. Thanks.

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Arami, I would imagine visiting my "on" is "son" and obviously the people at RoP haven't seen Jennifer in TRT lately and as for Colin not being tall enough, 6'1" is not tall enough?

Trashing JE amd CF is an old chestnut...some RoP posters go on and on about Elizabeth Garvey (P&P1) and how she played the perfect Lizzie. My answer to that is always..."Oh yeah? Who won the BAFTA?" ***** Eager to see pic of Lucy Peacock..mum of two, playing young unmarried 21 yr.old Lizzie. :-D

Eager to see pic of Lucy Peacock..mum of two, playing young unmarried 21 yr.old Lizzie. :-D LOL!! me too

Sorry last comment about P&P,JE etc, but personally I thought both the prior productions and perforamnces were very wooden indeed, nothing can touch and the performances and production of P&P2.

they brought the book to life for me. (sorry pressed the submit button too soon).

I don't have time enough at this late hour to read back to beginning of July but I thought I give you this site that I came across at RoPMRQE great movie review site and MLSF is there...This review really peaked my interest..here is a tidbit. Director Hugh Hudson devotes considerable time to close- ups of this wonderful man's expressions, each of which tells a story about his feelings at the time, particularly envy of his boorish brother's good luck in catching the gifted Heloise. Review bye Harvey S. Karten critic comuserve.com Just type in My Life so Far and they all show up.

You can tell I haven't done this in a while http://www.MRQE.com

I don't have time enough at this late hour to read back to beginning of July but I thought I give you this site that I came across at RoPMRQE great movie review site and MLSF is there...This review really peaked my interest..here is a tidbit. Director Hugh Hudson devotes considerable time to close- ups of this wonderful man's expressions, each of which tells a story about his feelings at the time, particularly envy of his boorish brother's good luck in catching the gifted Heloise. Review bye Harvey S. Karten critic comuserve.com Just type in My Life so Far and they all show up.

one more time

Oh Donna, thank you, but will you please give us the url again, it didn't come through. BTW, what the h*** is happening with Spring? It seems to be taking a right hand stage departure :-( Help!

Sorry, Donna, it did come through, and works. Thanks. And Spring has apparently reverted to normalcy. Uff!

(Ann) The Turn of the Screw is a one off drama and is due to be screened at Christmas. Wonderful a festive feast of Firth Ho, Ho, Ho! You won't have room for anything else under your tree. Just keep thinking of all this Firth as you wait for MLSF. (Karen) the second (Moss) is Irene Jacob and kid, with Colin's head peeking up into the mossloft This is part of the trailer Miramax offered at their site last year, before the movie was yanked from release. Nothing featuring the STAR of the movie!! Sheesh!! I'd rather have him absent from the trailer vs. the other way around. I hate it when a trailer lures me to the theater and I find it had the best scenes and the rest of the movie was *pew*. Not so with MLSF. Fraser may be the central character, but this is Colin's movie all the way (I know, I'm preaching to the converted). Karen, tonight's the big night, right? Afterwards, come join us at 121. Jana, Susan and I are getting lonely over there ;-) Marianne and Winter, we're still waiting for you!

On second thought, what day is it (*perpetually disoriented to date and time*)? Last night was the big night! And you've not posted at 121 yet? Sheesh! :-D

No, I don't get to see it until NEXT week. Not much of an advance screening: two days before general release! (Originally it was to be Monday, August 2, but the printed invitation says the 4th.)

Hey, Moon should be back right about now. Probably just catching up on all the posts, sneaking in a viewing of FF so that she can join in at 98, and jumping for joy that she didn't completely miss the opening of MLSF or FP (latest word is mid to late September). To recap: All's the same in the world of Firth, except for the new projects announced (Christmas television special of Turn of the Screw) and the announced start of Relative Values on the Isle of Man this weekend - Londinium having been completed.

(Renate) "There are 32 curling extras here in Argyll, Scotland who'd like to know if the 4 days they spent doing it ended up on the cutting room floor. E Mail please to lengow@drimsynie.co.uk" Thanks for posting this, Renate. I did write to Mr. Gow and got the following reply: Hi Anne: Thanks for letting me know. Did you see much change from the preview to the final cut? The curling scene took 4 days to film, including two 5pm till 5am sessions - so I hope it managed more than a couple of minutes. The art department did a superb job in recreating a frozen pond in an old Victorian garden - and with all the fake snow, ice and none fake smoke - the conditions certainly felt like January even though it was filmed in May. Same old story - the critics can slag it but unless it gets into enough theatres then joe public won't have a chance to see it. Thanks for letting me know. Len in Argyll.

From Renate's news, I contacted the curler who worked on MLSF. He was the one who arranged for 30 guys to play in the curling scene. (I assume it was his curling club.) He sent me a newsy little note yesterday. He told me about how boring it was working for the 4 days, two of which were 12 hour days working through the night until dawn). Then he said that he was asked back for another, but blew them off and went to the pub. ;-D He described how they converted an old Victorian walled garden on the estate into the outdoor pond and brought in the fake snow, ice, etc., because they filmed it in May. But the highlight of his note was that he was called in to talk and give a demo to the actors before, while they were rehearsing another scene in the big house. He recognized all of them, hardly believing that he was there and they were all seated around the table. He said that Malcolm McDowell was funny, MEM was friendly and Colin actually asked some questions. At the end, he talked about how beautiful that part of Scotland is and how it should show up well in the movie's cinematography. I've emailed him back for more more more..... ;-D

Thanks Anne & Karen.

Thanks Anne R. and Karen for giving us all the inside from Len, the Head Curler. BTW is curling akin to ice hockey? I never heard of it before the movie was originally going to be titled: "The Roaring Game". Remember, that far back? And Bethan told us the title related to "curling".

Len, the Head Curler. hee hee

I also would like to know what curling is.

So the rusty gears of the Miramax publicity machine turn...first MEM, then Puttnam, now Malcolm McDowell. Can Colin be next up? They do have telephones on the Isle of Man, don't they? ;-D From Jeffrey Walls' column at Mr. Showbiz. Here are the relevant parts: The purpose of the interview was to plub My Life So Far, a quiet little country drama from Miramax that's just opened. Set in the 1920s and directed by Hugh Hudson, it's about issues of loyalty and sexual desire upsetting a family living on a large British estate. McDowell plays a visiting uncle who brings along a pretty French maid (Irene Jacob) who winds up attracting the husband (Colin Firth) and his adolescent son (Robbie Norman). Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio and Rosemary Harris co-star. Hudson, said McDowell, "is a friend of mine. He called me one day and off I went. It was shot two summers ago. A very charming film. It's a very gentle piece, seen through the eyes of a 12-year-old boy during that very special period during the wars." ********* For the entire article: http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/990729/showcon072999_2.html