~KarenR
Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (18:57)
#901
Take some Prozac, ladies. BBC casting information is, indeed, covered by the Official Secrets Act or didn't you know! ;-0
I cannot believe that anyone but Colin would be playing Lorimer. First off, James Frain does not have the right look for the chameleon-like character. He is far better suited for Flavia's husband. And the second reason is that, when I spoke to Armadillo's production asst at the end of July, when the actual production office was just being set up... [to be cont. on Sfolks]
~amw
Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (20:17)
#902
and what I can't understand Mari, okay so they can't say who is in it but surely they can say if Colin isn't. It's unbelieveable.
~Moon
Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (20:31)
#903
(Moon) Definitely not Gilbert.
(Karen), If that's the husband, why definitely not?
Because Gilbert's part is not as big as Torquil's. There is also David the rock star and Mr. Hogg his creepy boss, but Torquil spends lots of time with Lorimer. As I have stated the book is open to interpretation so the script may vary.
(Mari), Honestly, you'd think these people were protecting state secrets. It's a movie, fergodsake! I don't think the press corps covering the Nixon White House ran into this much trouble. "What did A&E know and when did they know it?"
LOL! I feel the same way. It must be sheer achimota! ;-)
Or, if we hear nothing prior to the Sciascia reading, ask Colin directly.
It did not work with Colin when we wanted to know about BJD. He always went round the question, remember?
I have e-mailed Baz in the past and he never answers.
~patas
Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (21:25)
#904
(Moon) It must be sheer achimota! ;-)
Please translate...
~Moon
Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (21:39)
#905
Be patient, Gi, you should receive your copy of Armadillo very soon. ;-D
~lizbeth54
Fri, Oct 13, 2000 (22:41)
#906
Take some Prozac, ladies. BBC casting information is, indeed, covered by the Official Secrets Act or didn't you know! ;-0 (Karen)
LOL! BBC casting info is indeed sacrosant! As is all information about the BBC. Anyway I'm going to stop worrying...it's just BJD/HG/Mark Darcy all over again. I can't see anyone but CF playing Lorimer and I can't believe that a partnership between CF and SB wouldn't work out. Baz talks to lots of people...maybe JF is up for a role in "Armadillo", no more than that.
I remember being plunged into similar doom and gloom about "Londinium" because I was convinced that Jack Dee had the lead romantic role (Just the way it was reported ..."Jack Dee is to star in...Also in the cast are CF...")
Wish we had a friendly mole in ICM though...would save a lot of palpitations. :-)
~KarenR
Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (04:54)
#907
Perhaps this will make you feel better. Saw this item in Ananova: "Patsy Kensit has revealed her deep regret over her decision to turn down an offer to star in the US series Friends."
Star?? Come on. The role of Ross' girlfriend Emily was not a starring role. Then: "The role of Emily was eventually played by Helen Baxendale who shot to fame as Dr Claire Maitland in the BBC series Cardiac Arrest and later starred in the comedy drama Cold Feet."
Shot to fame? Where?
Anyway, see what I mean? Your press use the term "star" very loosely.
~winter
Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (05:25)
#908
I'm back!
Yes, I was in Bali for a month, but spent the last week at a cousin's wedding in Honolulu, Hawaii. I got in last night...
Thansk for the updates/emails/review Jana, Marianne and especially, Karen. I rarely ahve time to respond to them, unfortunately... will email you all ASAP.
~Jana2
Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (06:43)
#909
Yea! Winter is home. Missed ya, honey :-).
~EileenG
Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (16:00)
#910
Aargh, more suspense about Armadillo. Thought Baz was on our side...didn't he issue the initial news about Armadillo waaaay back when? I'm in agreement with Karen regarding use of the word 'star' interchangeably with the word 'act'.
finally, I asked if, as a CF fan I would be pleased when the press release came out, and she responded, "yes, you will definitely be pleased."
Great detective work. Who says being a Firth fan doesn't result in the development of new skills?
(Mari) "What did A&E know and when did they know it?"
LOL! Where's Judge Sirica when you need him? ;-P
Will just hunker down and await some [good] news.
~mari
Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (16:20)
#911
Karen and Evelyn, have a great time at the DQ screening tonight. What a treat to be able to see this on the big screen and under optimum viewing conditions. We'll be anxious to hear your report.
Karen, BTW, "Capone" has been posting his reviews of various Chicago Fest showings at AICN--including Greenfingers (he agrees with you), and at least one of the films competing with DQ for the new filmmakers prize. Am wondering if he will review DQ, and thinking that perhaps someone else may want to give it a whirl.;-)
~heide
Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (22:14)
#912
In honor of DQ being shown to the general US public, shall we attempt a simultaneous viewing with Karen and Evelyn? Hmmm, somehow I don't think it will be the same. Looking forward to your reports.
~Tracy
Sat, Oct 14, 2000 (23:18)
#913
Speaking as one of the DQ deprived (AKA British drooling contingency) - I am so looking forward to your posts as it's probably the nearest I'll get to actually seeing it for a while yet ;-(
~LisaJH
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (05:43)
#914
(Mari) finally, I asked if, as a CF fan I would be pleased when the press release came out, and she responded, "yes, you will definitely be pleased."
(Mari again) I don't think the press corps covering the Nixon White House ran into this much trouble.
Mari, you are every inch the investigative reporter in manner of Woodward & Bernstein, for you were able to obtain a non-confirming confirmation (the opposite of a non-denial denial) from the woman at A&E. :-) Brava. I am in the "Colin will star as LB in Armadillo" camp and shall not waver�.
Ladies, thanks ever so much for the reports here and at the spoilers topic for Londinium. What a treat.
Karen and Evelyn, can't wait to hear about DQ on the big screen.
And in less then one week, I will see RV. I can hardly believe it, for I usually see ODB's films about 1-3 years after everyone else!
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (06:12)
#915
We're baaaaaack!!!! And are we happy!!
It was wonderful, wonderful, wonderful...and fantastic!! I was so afraid it would look like a television movie, but it doesn't...at all.
There were about 80+ people in the audience, not a sellout, but OK, especially since no local reviewer recommended it as a "must see." However, the audience reaction was great, especially when Donna Franceschild introduced the film and mentioned Colin's name as agreeing to be in it. There was a little squeal and applause at that.(it wasn't us, honest!)
As I said the film looked great. He looked great. You could just see every little emotion on his face. The film IS dark in those scenes within the Pannick home, blue in flashback and light outside. You just can't imagine what those closeups are like on a huge screen...or that loping gait. *am grinning like a complete fool*
Gram got a laugh every time she appeared, which bothered some of us as it seemed to ignore the seriousness of the subject matter (at the hospital even). We definitely got the feeling that people recognized the performances were wonderful, even though Clive is still a tough one to understand. BTW, nothing wrong with the sound.
Time to backtrack, as I said Donna Franceschild intro'd the film. Said that David Blair, the director, wasn't there because he didn't fly. She had never done this, but really is a natural. Very funny.
After the film, she took Q&A. From my scribbles, as best I can remember:
1) What was she most pleased about or what would she change? Talked about how she had been writing for more than 20 years and the process continues. The script was organic and continually worked on. Said was most pleased that they got the cast they wanted. Had put together their "dream cast" which was headed by Colin and they sent him the script and he liked it and said he'd be in it. With his name attached, everyone signed on.
2) Did the story come out in driblets or all at once? Not really answered in this one, but interesting insights. She knew she wanted to protray a man who goes mad, but when was he mad, i.e., as Daniel Quinn or Donovan Quick. Also she wanted to question why do big companies do what Windmill and that is because they can do it.
3) What has she done in the past? Yadda yadda
4) How long did it take her to do this? Approx 3 years, because she got writer's block but her work ethic made her finish it because she felt guilty having accepted payment in advance. She didn't know at the time that many writers who accept advances don't finish.
5) How was the film received in the UK? Funnily enough, the film has never been shown in the UK. They (BBC) is afraid no one in America will like it. [audience catcalls at this point] They are waiting for people in America to tell them it is good enough.
We have good news and bad news: First the bad news, you aren't going to see it on TV if Donna & Co. have their way. They want a theatrical release and they've been the ones who have kept it off television.
Now the good news. It will be screened at this year's Birmingham Festival (November 15-26) and at the Cairo Intl Film Festival.
They are really trying to find a distributor. If they don't, then it will shown on BBC. So you can stop emailing the BBC.
6) How long did it take to make? Approximately 45 days and had budget of about 2 million something.
7) Did you film different endings? On the day of the shoot, Colin came on set in that suit and she barely recognized him. He was "metallic." When she saw that, she said to him that she would write a different ending, and his reply was "don't you dare." DF said that the ending showed how he had been haunted and that we should conclude that the treatments had "cured" him of hypomania.
There were a few more questions of not such significance. We talked to DF and her agent afterward. Wanted to get further info on future showings and I gave her my email address. We did volunteer to put the word out.
OK, Evelyn is really fading now. More tomorrow and our second showing!!
~fitzwd
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (06:29)
#916
(Karen) Colin came on set in that suit and she barely recognized him. He was "metallic."
Hi Karen, thanks for the interesting report and passing on the good vibes. By the way, what was your interpretation of metallic? Did she mean cold, aloof? Or was his suit one of those old polyester models where the threads give off a sheen? :-)
Good for Colin for sticking to his guns for the original ending. But I am curious as to what she had in mind when she was considering a re-write.
Interesting that David Blair doesn't fly. I guess he must have traveled by land to Poland when he filmed AK.
And very interesting about the possible theatrical release. Another question: Since the film and Colin looked great on the big screen, is there hope for Lucy? :-)
Very good news. I can't wait to hear the feedback after the second viewing.
~lizbeth54
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (08:49)
#917
Great to read such a positive report, Karen! Supersleuthing indeed...straight from the horse's mouth. Very glad that it looked so good on the Big Screen...I'll bet those Van Morrison tracked sequences looked/sounded great!
Very interesting stuff from DF, especially in view of the misinformation (or should I say "lies"!) that has/have been streaming from the BBC.
How was the film received in the UK? Funnily enough, the film has never been shown in the UK. They (BBC) is afraid no one in America will like it. [audience catcalls at this point] They are waiting for people in America to tell them it is good enough.
Wot! What are the BBC doing/not doing? Why does DQ need to have a good critical reception first in the US? It helps tremendously, of course, and guarantees commercial success, but a lot of movies are released here first, and then get picked up in the US. DQ had a good reception at the Cork Film Festival. The BBC could have arranged for it to be could have been shown at the London and Edinburgh FF this year or the Raindance Festival for movies from first-time directors, currently on in London.
We have good news and bad news: First the bad news, you aren't going to see it on TV if Donna & Co. have their way. They want a theatrical release and they've been the ones who have kept it off television.
Now the good news. It will be screened at this year's Birmingham Festival (November 15-26) and at the Cairo Intl Film Festival.
It's very unusual for BBC Films to go straight to TV screen (especially with someone of the calibre of CF in the lead). The BBC should have been backing DF and David Blair to the hilt (they've won a Best Drama BAFTA) and actively marketing DQ from day one. It's great that it's showing at festivals now, after a year of inaction, but Birmingam is not the premier UK festival, and certainly not a major marketing forum.
BTW all my criticism BTW is aimed squarely at inept BBC management, who seem to have given DQ the cold shoulder (whilst elevating "Billy Elliot" to Oscar winning levels and securing a nationwide release in 350 plus multiplexes) Donna Franceschild sounds marvellous (and she's a very gifted writer). I hope she has every success!!
Thanks again Karen and Evelyn...don't know what we'd do without you!
Brava. I am in the "Colin will star as LB in Armadillo" camp and shall not waver�.
Agreed, absolutely. I realise that "star" is now used to mean "appear in a role in" (as in "Colin Firth stars in "Blackadder"!)
~lizbeth54
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (10:57)
#918
Just a final, final dig at the BBC. (As a much disgruntled licence payer!)
Karen, I think you said that two other BBC Films are showing - "Saltwater" and "Greenfinger". "Saltwater" (set in a fish and chip shop in Ireland) is a Gala film at the London Film Festival, opening in thw West End. And I've read that "Greenfinger" is being very actively marketed in the US/North America, through major festivals, like Toronto. So, the BBC can pull their finger out...when it suits!
~patas
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (12:14)
#919
Karen and Evelyn, many thanks for your report. Happy news indeed!
With his name attached, everyone signed on.
I'm glad his name still commands some respect ;-)
(Donna)...what was your interpretation of metallic?(...)I am curious as to what she had in mind when she was considering a re-write.
I have the same questions.
I wonder what kind of look he gave her with that "don't you dare" :-)
~Moon
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (13:25)
#920
(Bethan), Why does DQ need to have a good critical reception first in the US? It helps tremendously, of course, and guarantees commercial success, but a lot of movies are released here first, and then get picked up in the US. DQ had a good reception at the Cork Film Festival. The BBC could have arranged for it to be could have been shown at the London and Edinburgh FF this year or the Raindance Festival for movies from first-time directors, currently on in London.
I agree with all your points, Bethan! This is some stupid game they are playing at. Since when does a very Scottish BBC funded production have to do well in the US before it gets shown at home? And what about Oz, what happened there?
Birmingam is not the premier UK festival, and certainly not a major marketing forum.
Neither Birminham or Cairo are. It looks pretty desperate.
(Donna), what was your interpretation of metallic? Did she mean cold, aloof? Or was his suit one of those old polyester models where the threads give off a sheen? :-)
LOL! The original DQ did wear a shinny armour. ;-)
Thanks, Karen and Evelyn! It is good to finally have some questions answered.
~mari
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (13:47)
#921
Super report, Karen and Evelyn. Sounds like you had a ball. So glad it looks good on the big screen, and that the audience reception was positive.
Good for Donna F. for wanting to hold out for a theatrical distribution, but it sounds as though she and Blair are on their own and not getting much support at all. Without financial and marketing backing, it is very hard to get enough exposure for a film to attract the attention of distributors. I wonder if she has tried the small indie distributors, like Artisan and Lion's Gate. Karen, I'd be interested in hearing whether or not she has had any "exhibitors only" screenings, as the Binders are doing in London.
She also might want to consider having Clive re-record some of his dialogue; this is done all the time, when the original line readings are not what they wanted, but again, I guess it all comes down to money and resources.
(Bethan) but a lot of movies are released here first, and then get picked up in the US.
Absolutely. There is no reason they (BBC) could not have been going for a theatrical distribution in the UK, independent of what happens here. Sounds to me like they would have been content to just show it on TV.
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (13:47)
#922
(Donna) By the way, what was your interpretation of metallic?
Hard as steel would be my interpretation, based on the dialogue ("we'll pry their fingers off..." Of course, the suit did give off a sheen... kidding. He's wearing a lovely navy raincoat.
(Donna) Since the film and Colin looked great on the big screen, is there hope for Lucy? :-)
The question of the hour! I can't put my finger on it, but there was this interesting noise from the audience (cross between groaning and laughter ) when Lucy moved in for the first kiss and D pulled away. Need to assess better at second showing.
(Bethan) Why does DQ need to have a good critical reception first in the US? It helps tremendously...but a lot of movies are released here first, and then get picked up in the US.
Yes, they are released first by you and consigned to the dustbin. So few make it that way that haven't gone on the FF circuit and been picked up either by an established distributer or a smallish one.
We're going to ask (privately) why it wasn't at Edinburgh or London and why there was so much time between fests. Cork was a year ago.
(Bethan) It's great that it's showing at festivals now, after a year of inaction
Many small films sit around looking for distributors. They are not like big studio films that are pushed quickly onto the screen.
(Bethan) whilst elevating "Billy Elliot" to Oscar winning levels and securing a nationwide release
Billy Elliot always had major studio backing via Working Title/Universal/Studio Canal. I doubt BBC Films had anything to do with promoting/marketing that film, when you have the aforementioned heavyweights.
(Bethan) I've read that "Greenfinger" is being very actively marketed in the US/North America, through major festivals, like Toronto
First, it stars Clive Owen, who is very hot. But wait until the reviews come in. It's very mundane. They are marketing it to us because it is feel-good entertainment and they can make a buck. That's all.
More info:
Can't wait to get back to the second screening. You can actually read George Mackie's monitor of DQ's personnel record. Has a middle name (Martin). On the right, it had his medical diagnosis (hypomania...). Partially caught his title, but will focus on that today.
More later
~heide
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (14:56)
#923
Thanks Karen and Evelyn.
With his name attached, everyone signed on.
Sigh, so respected within his profession.
They (BBC) is afraid no one in America will like it. [audience catcalls at this point]
Good for the audience.
Your bad news is not so bad, certainly not worse than what has already been discussed. Also sounds like Colin signed onto this film not knowing whether it would be TV or film but liked the project - more important to him than what the final outlet would be.
(Donna) Did she mean cold, aloof? Or was his suit one of those old polyester
models where the threads give off a sheen? :-)
LOL, Donna. Ooh, that boy is such a chameleon.
(Gi) I wonder what kind of look he gave her with that "don't you dare" :-)
That was his Darcy look as he's forcing his way into Mrs. Younge's establishment. ;-)
Great report. I would be curious too as to how it got shown in the first place in Australia. Or are you not keen for Donna to know you've seen it already.
What is "hypomania"?
~heide
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (14:57)
#924
Sorry, fixed tags.
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (15:07)
#925
(Heide) Also sounds like Colin signed onto this film not knowing whether it would be TV or film but liked the project - more important to him than what the
final outlet would be.
Possibly, however, Donna F said they always intended it for the big screen. We did mention having already seen it from Australia. Her agent was with her and he wanted to know how we had seen it. Will corner him today some more.
~LisaJH
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (17:39)
#926
Thanks Karen and Evelyn for the great report. It seems a shame that the only way to get straight answers about CF's films is face to face with those directly involved.
(Heide)What is "hypomania"?
I wondered, too, and looked it up.
hy�po�ma�nia : a mild mania especially when part of a manic-depressive cycle
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (17:59)
#927
Yup, found it listed as part of a bipolar disorder, as KJ had diagnosed before. Here's some info:
Hypomania is a mood state which like mania is characterized by persistent and pervasive elated or irritable mood, and behaviors and thoughts that are consistent with such a mood state. It is distinguished from mania by the absence of psychotic symptoms and less impact of functioning. Hypomanic Episodes occur in some Mood Disorders.
When an individual experiences a discrete episode of persistent and pervasive emotional hypomania, this term may be applied.
Criteria for Hypomanic Episode
A. A distinct period of persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood, lasting throughout at least 4 days, that is clearly different from the usual nondepressed mood.
B. During the period of mood disturbance, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:
(1) inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
(2) decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
(3) more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
(4) flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
(5) distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
(6) increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
(7) excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)
C. The episode is associated with an unequivocal change in functioning that is uncharacteristic of the person when not symptomatic.
D. The disturbance in mood and the change in functioning are observable by others.
E. The episode is not severe enough to cause marked impairment in social or occupational functioning, or to necessitate hospitalization, and there are no psychotic features.
F. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatment) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism).
~lizbeth54
Sun, Oct 15, 2000 (19:37)
#928
Birmingam is not the premier UK festival, and certainly not a major marketing forum.
Neither Birminham or Cairo are. It looks pretty desperate.
I'm not even sure if Birmingham has had a FF before. But this year a massive 20 screen state of the art complex opened there...George Clooney came over for the opening night. It's the biggest and best movie theatre complex in the UK, and so I guess they will want to promote it. Excellent venue (better than the Ritzy! :-))
Her agent was with her and he wanted to know how we had seen it. Will corner him today some more.
Donna's agent is called Alan Brodie. He has a website at http://www.alanbrodie.com
He represents a lot of bright new writing talent, plus the estates of Noel Coward and Graham Greene.
I took "metallic" to mean lustrous, starry, a winner, and thought that DF wanted to change the ending so that DQ comes out victorious. Which is why CF said "don't you dare". Possible?
~ommin
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (01:45)
#929
Re that question how we got see it in Australia - its a mystery! One explanation could be the new Director of the Australian Broadcasting Commission was Director of BBC (Scotland) and he was frustrated with the Powers that be in the BBC and pinched a copy of DQ and showed it here in Oz. Or he could just have done it so Colin's fans throughout the world would at least have the pleasure of seeing it first (bg)!
~KarenR
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (01:50)
#930
that question how we got see it in Australia - its a mystery!
Not really and nothing clandestine here either. Sorry. Asked Donna F that today before the show and she said Pandora sold the rights early on to Australia and they had the right to broadcast it. Donna F wasn't even aware that it had been broadcast until after the fact.
More later
~fitzwd
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (01:51)
#931
(Anne) Re that question how we got see it in Australia - its a mystery!
LOL, I got the impression that she was asking, "How did you in America get to see this film, which was only aired in Australia?"
Tee hee, we have our ways :-)
~ommin
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (02:07)
#932
Thanks for that info. just a bit of fun on my part. Glad you enjoyed DQ. would love to have seen it on big screen. Maybe but I doubt it. I don't think we will have the pleasure of seeing C.F. until Bridget Jones much to my sorry.
~KarenR
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (02:52)
#933
Am pulling out my notes from this afternoon's matinee:
Another good sized crowd, probably slightly larger than Saturday night. Maybe over a hundred. Excellent audience reception for DQ. This audience took the film more seriously, i.e., not another Waking Ned Devine-ish experience. Robust applause during end credits.
Donna F intro'd the film pretty much the same way before and then took Q&A.
1) Man asked for clarification about who/what was going on with the computer terminal that showed Daniel Quinn. Thought it was Clive and why was DQ there. Explained he did work for company.
[I mentioned yesterday that you could read DQ's personnel record if had a photographic memory. So the three of us split the assignment to look for different details. Daniel was "Executive Director, Home Counties Division," and for education it said he attended Highgate and St Andrews University. Fictious??]
2) More clarification requested on end scene at train station. Did he pretend not to remember her? DF and others in the audience said DQ was going back to his previous life and was "cured."
DF mentioned again (and I might have botched this last night) that an important question she was attempting to portray in this film was: "Was DQ mad when he was destroying other people's lives or when he was healing them?"
3) Woman really praised the film (best film seen etc and more applause from audience) and then asked if DF had CF's phone number. Everyone laughed. DF talked about what a great guy he was and that during the filming she was doing an interview. So she told the interviewer that she had just left CF in bed in his trailer. Then she said as an aside: "in my dreams."
4) How did you become involved with David Blair? yadda yadda
5) There a lot of dark scenes. Why? Was that intentional. DF said that wasn't exactly her department, but the production designer wanted to achieve the look of an Edward Hopper painting!
6) Someone said they loved what she did with Sandy. Did she do a lot of research on the subject. DF talked about David Brown being learning impaired and from an acting family. Brown was appearing in a theater troupe and really wanted to do this. Blair made the decision to really use such an actor and everyone enjoyed working with him, especially Colin. They were v. sensitive to the scene where Brown is called a moron and asked how he felt about it. He was ecstatic that he would get to yell the same at someone else.
7) Cost of $1.8 million. No one did it for their usual fee. All took paycuts. The score was done by the same woman who did The Full Monty, but not at her usual fee.
8) Another asked how they got to use the actual buses and trains. DF said the buses were easy, as they were supplied by a small, independent company that enjoyed being part of a show that stuck it to you-know-who. The train scenes were more difficult because they usually cost so much more. However, through contacts it was done at a lower cost.
9) A question about distribution. Again, said none. She talked about how she wished potential distributors would see it with audiences like us, because of the fantastic reception it has had. Evidently, distributors don't seem to think people will like it. Amazing, what poor taste these people have.
10) Someone commented on the actress who played Gran and how good she was. DF said she is an institution in British film and when they explained she would have to play the role mainly in her underwear, she responded, "I wouldn't have it any other way." Then, they said she would be playing someone with a form of dementia, and she responded, "oh, then I won't have to do any acting." DF said this all in very proper, uppper crusty accent. Not as we hear Gran's speech.
Can't believe that DQ is gone. *sob sob* I want my own big screen print. *pouting*
On the way out, a woman came up to DF and identified herself as with Variety. The agent was summoned and they talked. Maybe this will lead to something.
All for now.
~Jana2
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (05:59)
#934
Thanks, Karen for the great report. V. exciting indeed! I'll keep my fingers crossed that the DQ team is able to get a distributor out of this. Loved the story about Gran, BTW :-).
~amw
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (06:49)
#935
Thanks very much, Karen, wonderful report as other's have said, felt as if I waw there. Am trying to think of a question but you seem to have covered everything. Am trying to visualise that closing shot of Colin on the big screen, WOW!
~lizbeth54
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (07:05)
#936
Terrific report, Karen. Will say more later..
But,
A question about distribution. Again, said none. She talked about how she wished potential distributors would see it with audiences like us, because of the fantastic reception it has had. Evidently, distributors don't seem to think people will like it.
Absolutely incredible. So we *like* the dross that's regularly seved up to us, do we? We should be very grateful that actors like CF take paycuts for good projects, when he could opt to make millions out of rubbish.. I hope CF knows he's appreciated in this country!!!
~patas
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (09:50)
#937
(Ann W)Thanks very much, Karen, wonderful report as other's have said, felt as if I waw there.
I couldn't have put it better :-)
~aishling
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (10:53)
#938
Me either. Great reporting, thank you ladies. Have been in touch with Birmingham and their programme will not be ready for possibly two weeks.
~Moon
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (12:55)
#939
DF said that wasn't exactly her department, but the production designer wanted to achieve the look of an Edward Hopper painting!
And it did!
I too have a hard time believing that they can not get distribution.
Thanks for the report, Karen!
~EileenG
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (14:40)
#940
(Bethan) Thanks again Karen and Evelyn...don't know what we'd do without you!
Absolutely, whole-heartedly agree. XXOO, ladies. Your efforts always make Drool worth visiting, even during those inevitable newsless spells and quibbles about donations. ;-) Karen, still can't believe DQ showed up on your doorstep. It's seredipity, baby. Evelyn, glad you could hit the friendly skies again to be there with Karen.
With his name attached, everyone signed on.
(Gi) I'm glad his name still commands some respect ;-)
Yeessssss!
(Donna)...what was your interpretation of metallic?(...)I am curious as to what she had in mind when she was considering a re-write.
(Gi) I have the same questions.
So do I. Interesting.
I wonder what kind of look he gave her with that "don't you dare" :-)
*hee hee* Me too!
[re: hypomania] E. The episode is not severe enough to cause marked impairment in social or occupational functioning, or to necessitate hospitalization, and there are no psychotic features.
Which of course damages the entire storyline, but I won't quibble about such details. ;-)
(DF via Karen) "Was DQ mad when he was destroying other people's lives or when he was healing them?"
Hmm, am trying to remember our discussion. Wasn't this brought up?
Woman really praised the film (best film seen etc and more applause from audience) and then asked if DF had CF's phone number. Everyone laughed. DF talked about what a great guy he was and that during the filming she was doing an interview. So she told the interviewer that she had just left CF in bed in his trailer. Then she said as an aside: "in my dreams."
*snort* Hope you gave DF and this woman Drool's URL. They belong here.
(Bethan) Absolutely incredible. So we *like* the dross that's regularly seved up to us, do we? We should be very grateful that actors like CF take paycuts for good projects, when he could opt to make millions out of rubbish..
Am grateful all the time, even during said long, dry, newsless spells. Whenever I get impatient for news of Colin's next project, I think of Ralph in The Avengers and I'm cured. ;-)
~mari
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (16:22)
#941
Wonderful anecdotes, Karen, and I'm delighted that the audience reception was so positive. Too bad Donna didn't pass out comment cards to take to those distributors who think we're all cretins. Or is that not done at a film fest? Anyway, Donna sounds like a real peach, and the nice reports on CF are no surprise but still nice to read.
(Eileen) I think of Ralph in The Avengers and I'm cured. ;-)
Yeah, but then I think of Schindler's, Quiz Show, TEP, End Of The Affair, Sunshine, Richard/Coriolanus . . .and I feel ill. With that body of work, Ralph can afford the rare miscue. And no hiding for this guy when things don't go his way--he gets right back on the horse. Does lots of big budget stuff and they're almost always good. High profile doesn't have to equate with junk. And the corollary is that there's nothing noble about doing a SLOW.
Sorry, must be cranky 'cause I couldn't see DQ on the big screen.;)
~EileenG
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (19:46)
#942
(Mari) Sorry, must be cranky 'cause I couldn't see DQ on the big screen.;)
Knew there had to be a reason. Hey, I'm not dismissing all of Ralph's work but rubbish is still rubbish.
And I didn't like SLOW either but at least the premise was good and there were no giant bears ;-P
~lizbeth54
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (19:51)
#943
RE Birmingham
It's the International Festival of Film and Television. The new Warner cinema complex has 30 screens (not 20 as I said) and parking for 3000 cars. Easily the biggest and newest theatre complex in the UK and state of the art as well. Should be high profile.
But Cairo?
~bethanne
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (19:57)
#944
Wow Karen, that's some great reporting you have been doing over the past couple of days. I hope your DQ/CF withdrawl symptoms aren't too severe. Let us know if there is anything we can do, to help you thru the horrors of cold turkey.
O Goody......a Ralph F. catfight.....'scuse me while I go off to sharpen my claws !
~mari
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (23:16)
#945
(Eileen) at least the premise was good and there were no giant bears ;-P
Hey . . is that any way to talk about Uma Thurman?;-)
Nah, no catfights here, Bethanne. Eileen knows I'm just blowin' off steam over the frustration that some of us sometimes feel. We agree about, oh, 98% of the time. 100% would be too scary--like we were in some kind of weird parallel universe thingie.:-) Hmmm . . .can you log in as two different people here and have a debate with yourself? Just askin' . . .;-)
Back to DQ--several questions. Karen or Evelyn, about how old is Donna F.? Did she say what brought her to Scotland? Have vague but probably incorrect memory that she is married to a guy there . . . Also, what was audience composition, e.g., male/female; age groups. Was there any mention that the filmmakers are in competition at the Fest--and who is entered, Donna, or David, or both? When are the winners announced?
~KarenR
Mon, Oct 16, 2000 (23:32)
#946
Mari's Q:
about how old is Donna F.?
She tossed out both 20 and 25 years for how long she's been writing, so that would put her in her mid-40s is my guess.
Did she say what brought her to Scotland?
Not really. She told me that she was born in Evanston, but left at age 2 and grew up in California. I didn't ask where. To the audience, she said she "emigrated" to England and went to work for the BBC. Will need some help from Evelyn on this, but she did say something else that I can't recall. Something about finding the atmosphere.... argh...
Yes, I remember hearing that she was married to someone associated with the psychiatric field.
Also, what was audience composition, e.g., male/female; age groups
Oh gosh! I knew I should've have done some demographic sampling!! I'd say the audience was a pretty good cross-section, possibly more women. More date-like on Saturday night than Sunday afternoon.
Was there any mention that the filmmakers are in competition at the Fest
Yes, a filmed segment that announces the film being in competition precedes each and explains what the FIPRECI (sp??) is.
who is entered, Donna, or David, or both?
The film and David because it is his first feature film.
When are the winners announced?
Tonight is awards night. Actually, that's kind of good, as DQ might be fresh in their minds. ;-D
~bethanne
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (04:02)
#947
Naw Mari..... I know we'd never get into a real Ralph F. catfight here. For one thing we're much too ladylike, and for another, we save our energies here, for discussing an actor( and his wet white shirt ) that is actually WORTH talking about. Now if you want to talk about fighting over HIM, I'm totally game there. I'm not just sharpening my claws on that one, I'm reaching for my shotgun. God, I scare myself sometimes !!
~lizbeth54
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (09:36)
#948
Thanks again for the absolutely wonderful reports, Karen....it all sounds like a highly positive experience, and Donna Franceschild sounds great...love her comments about CF!
Now, I must have my say! Bear with me, whilst I go on about distribution in the UK for the umpteeth time!
DQ has failed to find a distributor in the UK. But there's distribution, as in 300 screens in the multiplexes, and distribution, as in opens in one theatre in London, and trickles through to one or two regional independents, then comes out in video. The second approach meams that the film is not a success commercially, but may get some critical attention/acclaim. For DQ not to get even the bottom line deal is nothing short of incredible, especially if it was always intended for the theatre, not TV screen. It has all the right ingredients for the moment...regional, dysfunctional, dark but some feelgood factor, underdoggish...not a posh frock in sight. When it was made, David Blair had just won BAFTAs for Best TV Dramas, for two successive years. And yet mediocre, even bad movies attract more interest than DQ? The London Film Festival has a category "New British Films"( there are 12 showing this year), Edinburgh actively promotes Scottish films (David Blair is Scottish)....but no slots for DQ apparently.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
And the BBC makes it worse by not conveying the truth. Why don't they actually respond that DQ has failed to find a distributor...and maybe suggest that we write to organisers of film festivals in the UK asking for a screening? It's not even possible to support DQ because we're not given correct information!
Finally, I'm really happy to hear that it looked/sounded good on the Big Screen. Some films need the bigger screen to make a proper impact...they seem to open up more, become more defined.
I just hope that something positive happens in the US..a good review in Variety, perhaps?
Daniel was "Executive Director, Home Counties Division," and for education it said he attended Highgate and St Andrews University. Fictious??
The BiG Screen must be very clear!....yes, these are "real". Highgate is a well known public (ie private) school in London, and St Andrews is a Scottish university, now very fashionable because Prince William is going there to study.
~lizbeth54
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (12:44)
#949
The Sunday Times News Review published a short story by Robert Harris...it's called "The Lost Leader" (or PMQ) and is from the "Speaking with the Angel" anthology. It's in the first person, about a Prime Minister who announces in Parliament that he's quitting. Copies can be ordered from the Sunday Times Bookshop on o870 165 8535 for �6.99 (instead of �7.99) Supports the TreeHouse Trust. Publised 2 November
~KarenR
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (13:04)
#950
DF made it pretty clear that BBC did nothing for the film. I specifically asked about Edinburgh and she said DQ was not submitted. About London, she said they look for genre films. Surely, DQ fits into some genre.
Yes, the big screen version was very clear (to read the computer monitor) but it was only up there for a nanosecond.
~lizbeth54
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (14:29)
#951
DQ would have fitted into "New British Films", surely? The BBC should have promoted this, if only to fulfil their statutory obligation as a publicly funded body to support minority groups, which includes learning disabled. You very rareyt see someone who is learning disabled given an opportunity to perform a lead role, and David Brown was brilliant. And what was that award Colin got? The most popular actor in the history of the BBC?
Must be deadfully disappointing for all of them , especially given that they worked for less than the going rate.
As to the distributors (who are theses people?) saying that there wouldn't be anyone who would like DQ. It had excellent reviews from Cork and Australia, and ovviously an enthusiastic reception in Chicago. Who is "anyone"?
~lizbeth54
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (14:30)
#952
Typed in haste, sorry for the typos!
~Moon
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (15:05)
#953
Thanks, Bethan! I wonder what the Tree House Fund is?
I think DF has not be doing all that she can for DQ. The London and Edinburgh FF should have been set a long time ago. She probably feels guilty because the actors all took pay cuts, etc. and now she wants the Americans to rescue it. Half of them will not understand it. This is not a realistic goal for DQ.
What was she doing before this? Probably working on another project.
~luan
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (15:08)
#954
When is the next CF movie coming out and what is it called?
~KarenR
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (15:18)
#955
Hi Luann and welcome.
The answer to your question about CF's next movie depends on where you are and what you've already seen. The next one most of us expect to see on the big screen is Bridget Jones' Diary in the spring of 2001, although Relative Values will be shown on US television for the first time next week, and Donovan Quick is on the film festival circuit and there's Londinium.
There's a recap of the status of all of CF's projects (in production, in release, other) at The Bucket.
http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/main.html
~KarenR
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (15:43)
#956
Here are the awards that were announced last night:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cdh/20001017/lo/film_festival_hands_honor_to_violence-packed_thriller_1.html
~tamzin
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (18:16)
#957
Just a short note to say a big THANK YOU for all those wonderful reviews of both DQ and Londinium. I was not all that keen on DQ when I saw the video but reading the comments has made me long to see it on the big screen which sounds as if it does much more justice to the production. I rather feel this is not to be over here unfortunately.
With regard to Londinium I am hoping to get to see it on the 24th but am still waiting to hear back from Sunlight - keeping my fingers crossed!
What a Colin filled time we are having - about time too - and culminating in the reading at the Italian Institute!! Just need him to announce that he is doing another theatre project (Well, we can but hope)
~amw
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (18:24)
#958
Jennie, Donovan Quick is showing on the big screen at the Birmingham Film Festival in November. Their programme should be ready in about two week's time (thanks to Aishling).
~lafn
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (21:10)
#959
WELCOME LUANN
Got home last night ..had a great time, Chicago is a beautiful city and The Boss "The Host with the Most" ( 'cept she wouldn't let me wear my CF Tee shirt to the screening )
Have been reading Karen's report on DQ. Of course, I loved it on the small screen, so you can imagine my response on the Big Screen at an Odeon with great stereo.!!!...yes Bethan ,Van Morrison's soundtrack was so great we went home and put on his CD's.
(Bethan)Donna Franceschild sounds great...love her comments about CF!
I sat there and glowed...what a contrast to last year's SLOW screening with Missan belly-aching about lack of money....and how Jeremy Irons (barf!) was her first choice for the lead!
DF was resourceful and was able to get buses and trains at a fraction of the
cost.She and David Blair were soooo elated when Colin signed on. He had been the first on their "dream cast".She kept remarking how the whole cast bonded and on the last half-day shoot they pooled their resources to come out on budget.
(Moon)I think DF has not be doing all that she can for DQ. The London and Edinburgh FF should have been set a long time ago. She probably feels guilty because the actors all took pay cuts, etc. and now she wants the Americans to rescue it. Half of them will not understand it. This is not a realistic
goal for DQ. What was she doing before this?
Probably working on another project
I asked her about the London FF ...and she remarked that BBCFilms has been just sitting on this and since Making Waves is David Blair's and her company they decided to market it themselves.
I must agree that this is not realistic too, Moon. These people are not necessarily marketing folks.IMO it takes more than enthusisam and glib talk to market a film ("experience and bullocks").And why Cairo? ave your time and money.
Agree with Mari that Clive's dialogue should be re-recorded.
Sadly, the big screen and stereo did not help me understand Clive's dialogue.
Even some sub-titles would help the American market.
I was not as impressed as Karen with DF and her agent's business acumen.
DQ needs a more impressive machine(read: money and marketing) behind it to get a distrib.
I hope I am proven wrong.
~lizbeth54
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (22:09)
#960
Hi Luann and Jennie! Welcome back Evelyn!
These people are not necessarily marketing folks.IMO it takes more than
enthusisam and glib talk to market a film
BBC Film have a Marketing and Sales Department, in which people are paid handsome salaries to promote, talk up, and sell BBC Films. They have the contacts and the expertise, and the track record. DF and DB provided the creative energy, and delivered an on budget product. Marketing should have then taken over. If I have to comment further on the BBC, I shall have to resort to *******!!! DQ would never have been a huge comercial success, but it deserves a very limited release in the UK at least.
Clive's dialogue is tricky...I see nothing wrong with the use of subtitles for heavy accents. Good idea!
~KarenR
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (23:12)
#961
(Evelyn) I was not as impressed as Karen with DF and her agent's business acumen.
I wasn't impressed with it, but rather that she was not unlike most of the young filmmakers who accompany their films to these fests. They are not seasoned pros with huge studio backing. I've heard so many of the film-on-a-shoestring stories. Hey, last year, when I saw Tumbleweeds, the nobody director had Janet McTeer with him, primarily because she put in her own money to make the film.
Just saw a Czech director attempting to do Q&A, with an audience member doing the translation. ;-D
~KarenR
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (23:13)
#962
...and BBC has not spearheaded any extremely successful marketing campaigns lately to my knowledge. ;-D
~Tracy
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (23:39)
#963
Anybody heard anything re Londinium UK screening situation? Have looked at email but nothing to report!
Just literally) got back from Birthday Drinkies (hint) in ol' London Town with chaps from work and a 'bit-part' interloper!
Argor sworeal brilleve - but am suffering big time from surfeit of Bacardi Breezers - oof fallen over!
~tamzin
Wed, Oct 18, 2000 (20:07)
#964
Still not heard back regarding the London screening of Londinium also with regard to DQ I rather think the Birmingham Film Festivel is when I am on holiday! Sub titles would be a good idea for Clive. I know, even though I am British, I have an awful time trying to puzzle out what he is saying and then, finding out not really worth the effort as far as he is concerned!
~lafn
Wed, Oct 18, 2000 (21:12)
#965
(Jennie)I have an awful time trying to puzzle out what he is saying
and then, finding out not really worth the effort as far as he is concerned!
But when I finally decipher what he's saying, it's funny (in a 'noir' sorta' way). So that actually, I think we do miss some good lines .
The script is brilliant...every word counts...like a play.
~mari
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (00:09)
#966
I'm disappointed (but not altogether surprised) to hear that no one has heard back from Sunlight concerning the London screenings for Londinium. They did indicate to me that they would get back to you (though the people in NY and LA didn't get a confirmation either--but those were such short notice). As they said, London was designed to be a distributors-only screening with limited space; I guess it's possible that they are waiting to see how many RSVPs they get from potential buyers.
If you think it would help, I can call again. Of course, anyone is free to call (please don't think I'm trying to run things--I won't even be there--sob!) I had called previously figuring it was cheaper and more convenient time-zone wise from this end.
~LisaJH
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (05:19)
#967
Arggh! Just saw the trailer for RV on Starz!, and once again, ODB is not mentioned as one of the actors starring in the film! He looked very dishy in his tux, however, so that calmed me down a bit.
BTW, my cable co. threw in the 4 HBO channels for an extra dollar over the monthly price for Starz! I now have six channels dedicated solely to movies (Eight if I include AMC & TMC), and there is rarely anything on that is worth watching. Never knew there were so many unwatchable (made up word?) films. (Am beginning to think am turning into curmudgeon in manner of Andy Rooney.)
~aishling
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (09:10)
#968
(Mari) please don't think I'm trying to run things--
Not at all. I for one am grateful for your information. At least we are aware of what is happening. Thank you.
~amw
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (11:41)
#969
I second what Aishling had said Mari, we are very grateful for all you can find out.
~Moon
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (12:35)
#970
(Lisa), I now have six channels dedicated solely to movies (Eight if I include AMC & TMC), and there is rarely anything on that is worth watching. Never knew there were so many unwatchable (made up word?) films.
I agree! Only the classics on AMC and TCM are worth watching. There are many watchable films out there but those big movie channels never pick them up because they are not moronic enough for their audiences, most of whom are allergic to subtitles.
~patas
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (17:37)
#971
(Lisa), I now have six channels dedicated solely to movies(...) and there is
rarely anything on that is worth watching.
(Moon)I agree!
So do I... My cable company is forever trying to sell me two movie channels but only once in a while is there something I want to watch and can't get from Blockbusters :-(
~KarenR
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (17:52)
#972
Avert your eyes: Fundraising Notice Ahead
We've done very well, ladies, so a big Thank You for being so generous.
As a housekeeping detail, I have personally contacted every person who made a donation. If you haven't gotten a thank you from me, then I haven't received it. Please let me know.
~tamzin
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (19:46)
#973
Yes Mari, a big thank you for all your efforts in keeping us advised - much appreciated. Would you suggest we just turn up and hope!!!!
~Moon
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (20:08)
#974
I think it would be a good idea to just show up. It might just be enough to have sent your name and screening date. They may be too busy to get back to everyone. If they ask, just say you have RSVPd to Jack Binder via e-mail at Sunlight Prod.
~Moon
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (20:10)
#975
Thank you, Karen! I am very happy the fundraiser went well.
~mari
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (20:21)
#976
Jack was out of the office but I did leave a detailed message for him on his voicemail. As soon as he gets back to me, I will let you know.
If he doesn't return the call. . .I agree with Jennie and Moon--just show up.
~KarenR
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (20:57)
#977
If he doesn't return the call
Did you have a lovers' spat? ;-D For those close to London, I'd say just show up, but if I were coming in specially from far away...I don't know. Conversely, they might feel sorrier for you. One thing, who are these distributors in England? Didn't think there were but a handful of them?
~mari
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (23:00)
#978
(Karen) Did you have a lovers' spat? ;-D
Yes--and he's threatening to put me in their next film.;-) Entitled "The Hex Monster," it will shoot right here in Pennsylvania Dutch country. Have been working with Cornel to pump up for those rigorous butter-churning scenes.;-)
You asked about the distributors--he had told me that potential buyes were coming from all over, including the States.
~mpiatt
Thu, Oct 19, 2000 (23:38)
#979
(Mari)"The Hex Monster,"
ha ha ha PA Dutch V. funny.
~KarenR
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (04:41)
#980
(Mari) he had told me that potential buyes were coming from all over, including the States.
Ah, yes, they'll be there for the London Screenings, which run from the 23rd-27th. Have found the listing. Relative Values is there too. Still pushing it.
~Moon
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (12:37)
#981
Have been working with Cornel to pump up for those rigorous butter-churning scenes
LOL, Mari!
It is very good timing to set the screenings with the LFF. A questions does come to mind: Was it submitted to the LFF and rejected? This would be a way to get even if they do end up with a UK/US distributor. It makes perfect sense for Londinium to have been submitted. The sad truth would be that it was not accepted there or at the Toronto FF. They will be trying to sell it on the strength of Colin and Irene Jacobs. Let's see what happens.
~lafn
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (14:59)
#982
(Karen)they'll be there for the London Screenings, which run from the 23rd-27th. Have found the listing. Relative Values is there too.
(Moon)It is very good timing to set the screenings with the LFF.
And that's where DQ(the best one of the bunch!) should be instead of traipsing around Egypt!
~mari
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (15:22)
#983
The Wall Street Journal's review of RV (thanks to Anne R.) At least they liked Colin . . .
Relative Values
8-9:30 p.m. EDT on Starz!
The 1950s (1954 to be precise) are also the setting for this film adaptation
of Noel Coward's 1951 comedy, filmed on the Isle of Man and starring Dame
Julie Andrews, Jeanne Tripplehorn, William Baldwin, Sophie Thompson, Stephen
Fry, Colin Firth and Edward Atterton. Faced with a less-than-witty
screenplay directed by the apparently clueless Eric Styles, the
Anglo-American cast barely muddles through. Ms. Andrews plays it straight --
and bland as nursery custard -- as the Countess of Marshwood. Ms.
Tripplehorn hams it up as Miranda Frayle, the Hollywood star out to snag the
countess's son (a stiff Edward Atterton). William Baldwin is seriously
miscast as Miranda's former onscreen -- and offscreen -- lover; have the
filmmakers forgotten that romantic leads had handsome faces then? And
Stephen Fry merely dusts off his trademark downstairs hauteur as the
Jeeves-like butler (but retreaded wit is better than none). Only Mr. Fry,
Ms. Thompson as the countess's maid (and Miranda's long-estranged older
sister), and Mr. Firth as the deliciously arch Noel-substitute brave this
Cowardly disaster with good humor.
~lafn
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (15:31)
#984
Ouch!
Faced with a less-than-witty
screenplay directed by the apparently clueless Eric Styles, the
Anglo-American cast barely muddles through.
The reviews consensus seem to indict Eric Styles.The slob.
~KarenR
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (15:45)
#985
(NYT) William Baldwin is seriously miscast as Miranda's former onscreen -- and offscreen -- lover; have the filmmakers forgotten that romantic leads had handsome faces then?
LOL! Ya mean, they don't see the resemblance to Clark Gable? ;-)
Bruisingly bad review, although I do like how they singled out Colin's performance. Looks like a FF-type tape. ;-D
Thanks Anne and Mari.
~EileenG
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (18:13)
#986
Yes, thanks for the review. It seems consistent with many of those from the UK. At least CF landed on the good side of this reviewer.
Re: The Hex Monster: *pfffftttt!* Too funny, Mari (or shall I call you Hester?). Tell us what it's like to work with Mariel ;-P
~bethanne
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (20:39)
#987
Wow, I'm glad the Anerican reviwers liked Colin. I seem to rememeber a couple of rather snide UK reviews earlier in the year, that refered to him as "miscast". I know it's an artistic stretch for such a virile, masculine man to play a rather campy, gay character, but ANY criticism of CF's flawless acting ticks me off. I'd be interested to read any more RV review you can find. Thanx for sleuthing them out.
~lizbeth54
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (21:02)
#988
There's a site for the Birmingham Film Festival at http://www.film-tv-festival.org.uk
I glanced at the programmes for both the Edinburgh and London FF. To be honest, I don't see how either Londinium or DQ could have fitted into either. There would have only been one appropriate category in each - new British films - and as far as I can make out, in Edinburgh certainy, all the movies already had distributors and had just been, or were about to be, released. I suspect it's the same for the London IFF, and it's just a showcase for films about to go on release.
I read an article recently about film distribution in the UK...the UK is rated as the most expensive country for distribution, and independents really, really struggle. The bottom line is not quality , but will it make money....which really means does it have lad/yoof appeal.
Londinium might strike lucky. Irene Jacob is in the news at the moment.... starring opposite Macauley "Home Alone" Culkin on the West End stage at the moment. Lots of publicity for MC, who apparently will earn "only" �130,000 for a 20 week stint (How about �2000 for 10 weeks at the Donmar, and about �10,000 (the going rate, top whack, for BBC Scotland drama) for DQ...that's what I call "only"!!)
RV is horses for courses - will not be to every one's taste. Would like to see CF working with non-"first-time directors" though!(And moving up from small British independents) That's my main worry about BJD...what exactly has Sharon Maguire done? Although she's backed by highly experienced producers who surely wouldn't have chosen her as HF's buddy!
The Robert Harris tale for "Speaking with the Angel" was ingenious...probably more geared to being read out loud. Roddy Doyle's tale is about a man who shareas a room with a small furry animal. The tone/topics must vary. I would think that Nick Hornby might be promoting the book in the papers this/next weekend, and perhps talking about Treehouse and autism. His son goes to the TreeHouse school...it makes tremendous progress with severely autistic kids.
Mention in the press of the rally/march in support of asylum seekers on Saturday Nov 4. Wonder if CF will be a visible presence. If he is, then I think he's got guts. This cause, sadly, is not a popular cause, not even in middle England, and there's a very hostile backlash.
interesting interview with John McCarthy ("Hostages") who has a new book coming out. Incredibly nice man.Lives in North London. Very reserved and private. Only likes to talk about issues. He now works for an organisation which supports Victims of Torture, and recently donated �100,000 (proceeds from doing a phone advert) to the charity. A very decent person.
~fitzwd
Fri, Oct 20, 2000 (21:22)
#989
(Bethan) Irene Jacob is in the news at the moment.... starring opposite Macauley "Home Alone" Culkin on the West End stage at the moment. Lots of publicity for MC, who apparently will earn "only" �130,000 for a 20 week stint
Oh, tell me it's not true!! That means that little pipsqueak, oops sorry, MC will be get getting 6,500 pounds/week. I think our favs were only paid scale when they appeared at the Donmar. Bethan, is the scale rate 200 pounds/week at the Donmar? I had 250 pounds in my mind, but either way, it's in the same neighborhood - poverty. Moan, groan :-(
~lafn
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (02:08)
#990
interesting interview with John McCarthy ("Hostages")
We read and discussed it on #136.
~fitzwd
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (07:01)
#991
More on MC...
He apparently got very good reviews. FYI, here's a review that is not so good, but the reviewer loved Irene Jacob:
In the Daily Express, Robert Gore-Langton writes that Culkin "looks - poor lad - like a bleached chimpanzee" and declares, "Culkin, in his sweet but stilted way, never really suggests any real loss of virginity in all its excitement and terror. It's frankly very hard to imagine him being tucked up with anything in bed except cocoa and a comic." Calling Richard Nelson's play "wafer-thin" and "curiously old-fashioned", he says it "comes over as something of a middle-aged seduction fantasy." He praises Culkin's co-star, Irene Jacob, however - "boy, is she beautiful," he writes, and continues, "We are talking real French coffee-sipping sex appeal here - not the hairsprayed glamour of the recent crop of American actresses in the West End. It's a tonic just watching her skip around the stage barefooted with that je ne sais quoi.." He concludes, "What the show lacks in dramatic punch it makes up for in sheer feminine radiance. That's a real compensation, if mostly for the chaps."
~amw
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (07:19)
#992
Thanks for the Birmingham Film Festival Link, Bethan, I have bookmarked it.
~tamzin
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (11:14)
#993
Disaster!!!! ....... My friend has just e mailed about the screening of Londinium next week and has received the reply back from Jack Binder - screenings cancelled please notify your friends.
I hope this is not an omen of things to come.
~amw
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (12:27)
#994
Thanks Jennie, at least we now know for sure one way or the other. Perhaps they will re-schedule.
~Moon
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (14:56)
#995
(Bethan), Would like to see CF working with non-"first-time directors"
That would include Carlos Saura which would no doubt turn MoB into a real disaster. I have seen his latest Goya. It is a claustophobic, pretentious, agonizingly boring, film with no plot. I can see a pretentious film student if given a very large budget do something like this. I pray that Colin does not work with him. It bothered me to remain in my seat, DH kept wanting to leave, but I usually stick it out. A very painful choice. I am tired of his stage antics. Working with Saura would be a big mistake for Colin.
"What the show lacks in dramatic punch it makes up for in sheer feminine radiance. That's a real compensation, if mostly for the chaps."
LOL! I am glad the IJ is getting some attention, she deserves it.
Surprised to hear that the L screenings were canceled. This could mean: 1) The screening were set up at a time that conflicted with some LFF film that everyone wants to see. 2) They were ignored by the distributors. 3) They already have the distributors and no longer need to screen it.
~KarenR
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (15:04)
#996
(Moon) That would include Carlos Saura which would no doubt turn MoB into a real disaster....Working with Saura would be a big mistake for Colin.
That seals it. I don't like the book. You don't like the director. Therefore, Colin shouldn't do it. ;-D
(Moon) Surprised to hear that the L screenings were canceled.
Betcha anything, they weren't canceled. It's an easier excuse for Jack than explaining about lack of space, for distributors only, etc.
~mari
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (15:41)
#997
Oh, Jennie, that's so disapointing. My first reaction was the same as Karen's, that they aren't really canceled (great, suspicious minds think alike;-). On the other hand, that would be too easy of a lie to get caught in--anyone taking a stroll by the theater right before the screenings would be able to find out for sure.
Well, at least you have the Sciascia reading to look forward to--Firth in the flesh can't be beat!:-)
~heide
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (16:20)
#998
Am disappointed for the Londinium in London girls also. Frustrating to get a tantalizing glimpse of it in LA and NY and then have it disappear ala MLSF. Will hope it will be rescheduled for you and open next year for the rest of us.
Scathing WSJ review. All forgiven though since Colin was given a thumbs up. Didn't expect much anyway so will not be disappointed tomorrow night.
~lizbeth54
Sat, Oct 21, 2000 (19:28)
#999
Well, at least you have the Sciascia reading to look forward to--Firth in the flesh can't be beat!:-)
I think a reading by an actor is perhaps the most "up close and personal" experience you can get, barring a long conversation. I went to one last year (locally, someone not very famous!). The actor enters the room as himself, not in character, and if it's a small room, you're very close indeed. The actor just can't launch into the reading...there has to be some background explanation, eye contact with the audience. You literally stare and listen for an hour.
Looking forward to the report back, Jennie! Do you think there'll be an audio recording available?
~lafn
Sun, Oct 22, 2000 (01:20)
#1000
Do you think there'll be an audio recording available?
One can even take a microphone in one's purse. Putting a hankie over the red light of course;-)