Amen!

Maybe, but I am not convinced.

Thanks for the reports and instant updates on "Conspiracy"! Ann, Re."Armadillo", my thought are thus (may be wrong!) I would think this is a new project, in addition to "Armadillo", which I hope he's completed or is about to start. He obviously was working on the KB film today (ie he's already shooting it)so it's not something he's atarting on Monday. �3million isn't a huge budget (less than RV and SLOW, probably less than "Armadillo"), so I shouldn't think this wil be an immensely long action "war movie". It's probably a "talk" movie, more intellectually and morally critical, with a good screenplay. The full deliberations of the Wannsee meeting to discuss the Anti-Semite "Final Solution" for removing the Jews from Europe are on the Net, plus a list of participants in the meeting. If KB and Stanley Tucci are the leads, CF must be playing one of the other participants,probably a member of the SS, certainly a supporter of the Third Reich. This film has to be an anti-racist statement, otherwise I can't see why it would be made, or why actors like Tucci, Branagh and CF himself would want to be involved I can't see him giving up a lead role in "Armadillo" , for what is probably a supporting (but very different and challenging) role in Conspiracy", and would hope he's doing both. Despite the fact that I got so worked up about James Frain "starring" in "Armadillo", I can't see how JF could play Lorimer. He doesn't look English enough...the whole point of Lorimer is that despite his background, he passes easily for an English -or Scottish- gentleman and is a cameleon. James Frain tends to play (for want of a better word!)"foreigners"...East/Southern Europeans. Just my humble opinion! Jennie, what was his hair like (short back and sides?). That could give a clue as to the role.

Wannsee meeting and list of attendees http://motlc.weisenthal.com/text/x34/xm3417.html

I don't think he gave up Armadillo and didn't say so....I think Armadillo is in the can.This is a new role....but still a better choice than a "going no-where lottery or BBC film" BTW These are the same folks who brought you Hostages....

Sorry, it was my thoughts that perhaps he had given up on Armadillo, what with all the prevaricating by A&E when Mari telephoned, and then the news of James Frain and the fact that is has not been confirmed by A&E (Variety), I just felt that he must have dropped out of the Armadillo project and to be honest we still don't know for sure that he is connected with it. Oh well, never mind I am sure this will be good and if it is half as good as Hostages then there is nothing to worry about. I just can't get excited about a drama about Nazis discussing what they are going to do with the Jews (very simplistic I know) but there it is. I will say no more.

Jennie, thanks for your report. It's a good thing you ladies thought to ask the person filming the reading about what CF was up to, or we'd have no clue about this next project. Good, resourceful sleuthing! Any other details you can share about the reading? Colin's attire, hair, mood, any in-between intros of the material? Length of his reading, size of crowd, how close were you able to get, was it mostly CF fans? Was Livia by herself? Livia's attire, hair, and degree of pregnancy or lack thereof? (See, I always go for the important info! LOL!) Ann, my hunch (and my hope) is that they just haven't gotten their act together yet on Armadillo, so maybe he is doing Conspiracy in-between. I loved Armadillo, and have gotten so used to thinking of CF as Lorimer/Milo that I would be disappointed if he wasn't doing it. But I still think he is. Also, one of the Branagh sites says Ken is currently in Berlin filming Conspiracy, and that filming is expected to wrap on December 8.

It is possible that he is filming his scenes from Conspiracy quickly so that hw can return to do Armidillo.

Report from the set...Chicago-style At this very minute, Mike Binder is a block away filming some scenes for his HBO pilot. (It's on the same block where Mel Gibson was, btw) Am hoping to talk to him and will go back in a bit. Back to the reading...I echo Mari's comments. Any more delicious details? On Conspiracy, there are lots of possibilities as to what Colin would be playing. I think some of the historical background sites said there were 15 men in the room. Also, since it isn't based on any specific book, Colin could even be a British government official. We will have to wait. HBO's productions are big deals. Stanley Tucci has been nominated for a couple of Emmy's I think for HBO work (Winchell) (AnnW) I just can't get excited about a drama about Nazis discussing what they are going to do with the Jews Doesn't exactly make me jump for joy either, but think back to Ralph F and his career making role. :-)

Check out imdb.com for a movie called Wannseekonferenz directed by Heinz Schirk. It was made in 1984 for German TV and recreated the Wannsee Conference (15 men sitting round a table). It was shown in the US (English subtitles) and gets brilliant reviews. Gives you an indication of what the KB/ST/CF movie could be like. Go to it, Karen!

Bethan's link to the "text" didn't work, so here's the page before: http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t083/t08339.html Ladies who attended the Reading! I have a question. Did Colin look "fit"? Any indication he's kept up his routine and those six-pack abs? Inquiring minds have to know. ;-D

Thank you Bethan and Karen....fascinating reading. By the film reviews, I would think Colin would play Heinrich Muller the head of the Gestapo, KB, Eichmann, and ST, Heydrich. 85 minutes, perfect for TV docu-drama. Won award at Chicago FF in 1988!! Sounds like a winner...

THR said Branagh will play Reinhard Heydrich and Tucci will play Adolf Eichmann.

Will try and answer your questions this evening but am dashing up to Town now. However, I did e mail the Institute regarding the choice of subject and this is their reply: "As for the choice of the extracts to be read, this is normally made by the Director himself. Then the actor of course has his say: in Colin's case, he was meant at the beginning to read only from Sciascia, then he considered Pirandello and finally opted for a selection of Sicilian authors. The themes, the feelings expressed and the way to express them have been entirely up to him.

Nothing new or exciting from the Binder boys. Spoke to Jack, who said "it takes a long time" (or similar) in response to a question about all of rest of us seeing Londinium. Doesn't sound v. hopeful to me. BTW, the actress who is playing Mikey's wife in the series is English. Crew member looked it up and said her name is Donna Barnes (long blonde hair with dark roots). Dialogue concerned Mikey's "wanking" (I kid you not!) and how inappropriate she thought it was for him, a married man with a child. Something about his looking about pictures of v. young things with tight little... *shaking head*

Thanks to Jennie, Mari, Karen et.al for this new (*at last*) information. Am also surprised to read of Conspiracy. I agree with Evelyn and Karen--HBO productions are usually v. well done and well publicized. IMO more Americans will see this than Armadillo (but I also still hope he does that one). Good to see you de-lurk, Noelle. How'd you like Camille? *cough cough* *cue the violins* (Karen) Something about his looking about pictures of v. young things with tight little... *shaking head* Hee hee! 'Mikey-one-note' strikes again.

Oh, are you all going to love this. I just called HBO to ask about Conspiracy. They had no cast info beyond Branagh and Tucci, but they did tell me that HBO is co-producing with (wait for it;-). . . our friends at . . . BBC Films! Ta-da!:-) It is scheduled to air in the U.S. in April, 2001. Am very glad for our UK folks, as I'm not sure to what extent HBO films are sold abroad. I can only second what others have written about the quality of HBO films--they have won the Emmy for best TV film for the last 7 or 8 years running. Their original films are always high quality, and IMO, they have put our commercial networks here to shame.

(Karen) Spoke to Jack, who said "it takes a long time" Geez, Jack, it's a movie, not a presidential election.;-) Thanks for trying, K. Karen, what does Jack B. look like? I have a mental picture, based on the phone voice.;-) Bethan, thanks for the imdb info on Wannseekonferenz. I see it's available in NTSC. A vid store near me has a big foreign language section; will check if by some slim chance they carry. I am glad to see Colin getting back to serious drama. This sounds like it could be a very taut piece and a real showcase for the actors, ala 12 Angry Men (insofar as the claustrophobic setting and full reliance on the actors to tell the tale).

what does Jack B. look like? I have a mental picture Please transmit. April 2001!! How nice. I would've thought it was for next fall. (Mari) 12 Angry Men (insofar as the claustrophobic setting and full reliance on the actors to tell the tale). Ahem, Wannsee was a lovely resort villa. Expect to see them eating torten drinking caffe.

April 2001...HBO doesn't let them sit around for long....(BBC Films...take note...)and then they'll probably sell it to the History Channel like they did with "Hostages"...they show it periodically. "Conspiracy" will live in their archives forevah!!At last...a real stretch for Colin.Though he's never a v. convincing "baddie" to me... Thanks Mari. Karen...I'm waiting for the Conspiracy page;-)....*twiddling fingers*

Karen...I'm waiting for the Conspiracy page;-)....* At the rate we are going without confirmation of his projects, you should do a *Grapeline* section and put Armadillo there. ;-)

Suggest people read the text account of the Wannsee conference that Bethan posted. It lasted about an hour and half and was not a deliberation of whether to accept the Final Solution. Rather, it was an implementation meeting, discussing problems, methods, classifications, technicalities, to accomplish. The Wiesenthal Center's info comes from the "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust" which has based its account from such sources as Eichmann's trial. Of course, some people may question its sources and reliability. That is their prerogative.

As promised will try and answer Mari's questions. Colin was dressed in dark grey trousers with a black shirt over a black tee shirt. His hair was cut very short at the back but was still curly on top but with no sideburns, and he was clean shaven but looking very pale which was emphasised by the black attire. His mood was very serious, in keeping with the readings. Before he appeared on stage a member of staff from the Institute introduced the items he would be reading. He then appeared through a side door, walked onto the stage smiled slightly and launched straight into the first extract. The lights were dimmed with just spotlights focused on him. These highlighted the planes on his face. He certainly appeared much thinner in his face so I would think has not put on any of the weight he lost. Looked tired but fit. The reading lasted for about an hour and I estimated that there were about 100 people present - virtually a full house. Not all Colin's fans as there were quite a number of Italians. We were sitting about 6 rows from the front and I had an excellent view of Colin. After reading the last piece he bowed briefly to the audience and then disappeared off stage while we were still applauding. Livia was wearing black trousers and sweater with a leopard print jerkin over. She was also wearing her glasses and if anything looked thinner than ever. Hope I covered all the questions.

Livia was wearing black trousers and sweater with a leopard print jerkin over. She was also wearing her glasses and if anything looked thinner than ever. Is it even possible to look thinner than she already does? Colin hasn't been a v. attentive hubby, I must say...

Well...it could be just the opposite...

Thanks, Jennie! When he read did he gesticulate? Did he hold the book in front of him or on his lap? Did he entice audience participation, did he pause for laughs? Did anyone ask Livia about Armadillo? What type of glasses was she wearing, big, small, tinted? She was also wearing her glasses and if anything looked thinner than ever. This is a typical modern Italian woman. Slightly anorexic, who smokes between courses to hold her appetite. They can never be too thin.

They had no cast info beyond Branagh and Tucci, but they did tell me that HBO is co-producing with (wait for it;-). . .our friends at . . . BBC Films! Ta-da!:-) It is scheduled to air in the U.S. in April, 2001. (Mari) Now that's what I like...a real date! You'll have a good month in the US...BJD and Conspiracy...quite a role stretch! And as it's the BBC (huh!), well we will see it, eventually, some time (2002?), which is good news. I think that this is definitely the sort of production he should be going for...serious heavyweight drama, and the absolute guarantee that it will be promoted and seen, especilaly in the US. The DQ/small films saga and the way our reviewers seem to think he's miscast/can't act if he does anything other than stride round Pemberley has made less than enthusiastic about the UK "market"! By the film reviews, I would think Colin would play Heinrich Muller the head of the Gestapo, (Evelyn) I would agree...seems like the next major role. Thanks very much for your reports Jennie! It's always nice to get a first hand account. Was there any theme to the readings? Do you think there'll be any audiorecordings for sale...it seems a shame that it is literally a one-off performance. I would have thought the Institute might have got Radio3 or 4 interested in making a recording, especially as Judi Dench is also reading. As he's very pale and still way too thin, he sounds as though he's been working very hard , not sunning himself in Umbria! I would guess that he agreed to the Italian reading thinking that he had a "window" but then perhaps the "Conspiracy" project came up and he had to reschedule dates. Nothing new or exciting from the Binder boys. Spoke to Jack, who said "it takes a long time" (or similar) in response to a question about all of rest of us seeing Londinium. Doesn't sound v. hopeful to me. Thanks for trying Karen. Maybe it will go to video. Would definitely like to see CF and Irene Jacob together. Wonder why they didn't screen in the UK...have they given up on the UK market? (wouldn't blame them). Our local Blockbusters has a copy of "The Sex Monster" though (with ghastly cover)!! BTW I think they should change the title of "Londinium"...sounds like a historical documentary not a movie.

sorry...where did all that space come from?

(Moon) did he gesticulate? Moon! *Keep it clean* fergodsake!;-);-) Jennie, thanks again for the wonderful summary. Sounds like the hair (short sides and back, no sideburns) fits the new role in Conspiracy. (I hope they change the title, BTW; so many films have had that word in the title). Was looking back at my scribbled notes from talking with the HBO lady; forgot to mention that she said the film would be based on actual notes from the Wannsee meeting. Also, I see from the imdb that the Conspiracy director, Frank Pierson, also directed "Truman" with Gary Sinise a few years back--not sure what network that was produced for, but it was wonderful and got lots of accolades. I have to admit, though--I *still* much prefer big screen projects. They get far more publicity than TV, at least here. Karen, here's my Jack guess: taller than Mikey (and yes, I realize that fits about 98% of the adult male population, including Billy Barty;-). About 5' 8" or 5' 9". Slightly above average weight. Late '30s. Dark brown hair, curly, wears glasses. Sort of cute in a semi-nerdy way.:-)

(Mari) I hope they change the title, BTW; so many films have had that word in the title. I agree. Makes it sound like these guys got together to overthrow something. I think Sinese's Truman was HBO as well. (HBO lady) the film would be based on actual notes from the Wannsee meeting. They are all on the web...bring on the brandy. (Mari) here's my Jack guess Not bad. A little too tall (5'6" at best; could be wearing platform shoes) and no glasses.

See a few more questions have been asked so will do my best Bethan asks if there was any theme to the readings. We all thought the theme was "death" so definitely no opportunity for audience participation or laughs. The whole reading was very sombre and his demeanour was very serious. They did make a video recording but this is not going to be available to purchase due to copyright ruling. However, it will be available for viewing at the Institute. (I suppose we will now have an influx of eager fans wanting to view!!!!!!) BTW Judi Dench is not now reading due to filming commitments. Elizabeth McGovern is reading in her place and this reading has been brought forward to Saturday, 25th November. With regard to the actual reading Colin alternated between sitting in a chair holding the book and standing, reading from a lectern. Moon asked about Livia's glasses - these were narrow with dark frames.

A FoF called Colin's agent and got the following information: Colin is filming Conspiracy and he is playing the part of Dr Stuckart, Secretary of State of the Reich Ministery for the Interior

Thank you, Vera. Stuckart was a lawyer, constititional expert, party man. Drafted the Nuremberg Laws. One site called him caustic and bombastic.

Thank you Jennie and Vera....great info... (Karen)...One site called him caustic and bombastic. I'm encouraged...If you have to get a supporting role, it's best to make noise...beats being a potted palm!!

I hate posting this....believe me... But I have just been informed by James Frain's agent that.. "He is to play the *lead role* in Armadillo".

Rats, damn and blast

Incredible :-( FYI, the Conspiracy page is up. Has links to a few sites with background info.

Dr. Stuckart, eh! Why do I picture Peter Sellers now -- and his uncontrollable arm??? On Another topic: A fan of Russell Crowe sent me information on this hilarious site today. It is brand new to me, but I did a search for Colin, and he is "tradeable" there. http://dynamic.movies.hsx.com/dynamic.nd/hsx/pgDetailEnt?symbol=CFIRT It is all free, and all a lot of fun -- if you understand the market at all, which I don't. Murph

Oh, Evelyn, what a bummer! I suppose we'll never know the real reason why, but that won't stop us from speculating.;-) v.v. disappointing. Karen, the Conspiracy page looks good; great resource. He really looks wan in that pic; I can see where he could easily morph into the chilling portrayal that will undoubtedly be needed for C.

I knew I was tempting providence when I bought the book, as you say what a bummer, Conspiracy with Armadillo would have been okay but not "instead" of, I am so very disappointed. Surely he can't have turned it down, can he!! what is he thinking of. On something competely different I am also worried about the fact that Jennie says he looks tired and so very thin, he can't be overdoing it workwise so why is it, do you think, only speculating, don't really want an answer. Anyway, thanks Evelyn, for telephoning at least we know now. Did they say when filming on "A" is to start, perhaps it clashed with Conspiracy and he chose to do "C".

Karen, I have just been to your Conspiracy page,is this a new photo and where is it from, he looks dreadful, gaunt and pale and thin, what on earth was wrong with his Mr.Darcy look, at least he looked healthy!! Oh dear I feel so depressed.

I think he looks as if he need some TLC, I volunteer, and I think he needs an adviser on his projects, unless of course, ODB did lose out to JF in which case I am sorry for him, but this Dr. S sounds a very unsympathetic character whereas I really liked Lorimer Black, oh well just as well I also like JF. Think I will go and watch the last episode of Morse to cheer myself up, no that's not quite right as he dies and it is the very last one, but you know what I mean, it is an excellent series.

(Evelyn) I hate posting this We know, Ev, but thanks. At least we *finally* have an answer about this project. Guess this time the phrase 'starring in' really meant 'starring'. Phooey. :-( Ah, well, things happen for a reason. Not that we know what the reason is...at least Conspiracy is a 'go'--could you imagine how disappointed we'd be otherwise? But wait 'til Bethan reads this news. (Ann) I knew I was tempting providence when I bought the book You can put it on your shelf next to the Flashman books. ;-) (Mari) I realize that fits about 98% of the adult male population, including Billy Barty;-). LOL! Too cruel!

But wait 'til Bethan reads this news. Brought tears to my eyes, literally! But I'm resilient and I always prefer certainty to speculation. Thanks for taking the initiiative, Evelyn! To be honest, I've had a bad feeling about this ever since I read about James Frain, and despite my arguments to the contrary, I could see JF in the role (is there something unlucky about the initials JF?!!) Now, just to show how quickly I can change my tune, and argue for the opposition, I have to say that although I loved the book and thought Lorimer was very sweet, I did wonder whether CF had outgrown this type of role....rather disingenuous, a bit fey, lovesick, being sprayed in the supermarket etc, bullied by Hogg. Probably 30 rather than 40. I think he's reached the stage of doing roles with more authority. Mark Darcy is okay...late thirties, divorced, successful. Can also (sorry, I know !'m in the minority here!:-)) see him playing John Hatfield/Hope. And speaking of MOB, I found an up-to-date site listing current productions in development in Hollywood. MOB was listed (screenplay R.Khoury) and the studio/producer was given as United Artists/Tribeca (Robert de Niro's company?). Is this good? Also the Film Development Corporation in the UK are involved. Mind you, after Flashman, Armadillo, shouldn't even think about it! Not a good track record (Thank God he did BJD!) Thanks for the further info, Jennie. Theme of death...oh dear, he's not exactly a barrel of laughs at the moment, is he...maybe the mood of "Conspiracy" has affected him! The photo looks as though he's in character for Stockart..stern.

"ANY PORT IN A STORM DEPT" MOB United Artists/Tribeca (Robert de Niro's company?). Karen/Mari...isn't Tribeca the company that Robert de Niro founded with Harvey? I agree that the picture fits the part of Herr Stuckart...didn't he once say that when he takes on a role he becomes immsersed in it and Livia says "it's like living with two different people"..? Great page, Karen...

Hello to all! I'm new to drool but not to drooling since I have been a Colin Firth fan for a while. I appreciate your comments, news and info on all things Colin. I will be reading and will post if I ever have anything to add. Thanks for all you do.

Thanks, Jennie, Vera and Evelyn. It is sad that Colin will not star in Armadillo. He does not seem to be offered lead roles. Maybe he is playing Torquil, who is older than Milo and is not a small part? Vera, can your FOF friend call his agent and ask about Armadillo. Murph, what exactly is that site? I am off to check the Conspiracy page.

Welcome to our merry party, Caribou!

Bethan, I guess I won't be buying MOB, don't want to add it to the bokshelf eh Eileen. Welcome Caribou.

Moon, we don't know that he wasn't offered the lead role, it could be that he turned it down for some reason or another or that he preferred to do Conspiracy, though for the life of me I cannot see why!!

From Baz Bambigboye - Daily Mail (February 11, 2000) A Dark Time for Mr Darcy Colin Firth has signed up to work with the woman who helped make him a heart-throb. The actor, whose portrayal of the dangerously handsome Mr Darcy in P&P made him a household name, will collaborate with its award winning producer Sue Birtwistle, on a new TW drama. No tight breeches or coy glimpses of bare shoulder in this one though. This time Firth will play author William Boyd's modern-day literary here, Lorimer Black, an insurance adjuster from his novel Armadillo. Colin agreed to do this at a very early stage and it's perfect for him, Ms Birtwistle told me. Boyd is adapting his tale for the screen with filming beginning in the summer. The above is from Karen's Armadillo page. It makes one wonder what happened? Baz reported this. Is this supposed to mean nothing? It does not make sense.

Ann, I hear you but it does not make sense. This sounds like something went on behind the scenes to get JF to play the lead. Maybe Sue had to convince too many people Colin was right for the role and it did not go his way. He would not take second best on a project he had been helping Boyd with. This might be what happened. Somebody get me a martini!

I want to apologize for my rather flippant comment on Colin's new role posted earlier. It is a serious topic for a film, and one that needs to be told over and over so that none of us ever forget the horrors of the holocaust. Karen, your page is so interesting. Still, with all that, I too am disappointed about Armadillo. Another supporting role is not what I had hoped would come after BJD. But, there is still "world enough and time" for other possibilities.

and one for me and I don't drink!!! It is really strange why only weeks ago Mari came back (from her first phone call with A&E) and said we would be pleased with the casting and now this, I guess we will never know.

It's clear that something fell apart between my first call to A&E (when they were so upbeat and chatty about CF's involvement, yes, Firth fans will be happy with the press release) and the second in which they totally backpedaled and stonewalled and said they were "still casting." My strong hunch, for what it's worth, is that this was Colin's decision to back out and that it was a personal one, not a career move. Conspiracy wraps in just 3 weeks--and perhaps his involvement may wrap up even sooner. That gives him the holidays free. Whereas, it has taken Armadillo quite long to come together; the article Moon quoted from Baz mentioned summer shooting, and that is probably what CF originally agreed to. We are long past summer, and to shoot a 3+ hour film at this point, assuming they've already started, would likely take them well into next year. Remember, he was tied up with 3DOR during the holidays last year. This is a man with a geographically complicated personal life. Maybe last year was too difficult on them as a family. Or, I could be totally off base, and maybe he has something else terrific lined up right after Conspiracy which he would not have been able to take if he were doing Armadillo through January or beyond. Just speculating . . .

(Murph) Another supporting role is not what I had hoped would come after BJD I share your pain,Murph, but remember BJD has not been released yet...I have great hopes that his role as Mark Darcy will propel some lead roles... C'mon now gang.....Firth Fans are die-hards...we don't give up easily:-)) I'm inclined to agree with Mari...personal reasons there....

First: Caribou! Nice to see that you've joined us. (Caribou) I will be reading and will post if I ever have anything to add Having something to add is not a prerequisite for posting here. ;-D Moon: that site is the Hollywood Stock Exchange. Remember? About Armadillo, I tend to agree that something must have happened with the timing. The summer shoot was an early projection and before the BBC had A&E onboard. Once A&E committed, then preproduction actually started. Why Colin isn't in it or if he backed out we will never know. But it is their loss. Shouldn't we be happy for Colin? He is doing a character part. ;-D (Evelyn) isn't Tribeca the company that Robert de Niro founded with Harvey? No, it's just Bobby and Jane's company.

First of all, Noelle, it is nice to meet you. Hope you enjoyed your FFF (Firth Film Festival) the other day. I did the very same thing last late Winter and early Spring when I acquired quite a few of CF's OOP videos. I am another who does not mind watching ODB in Camille. He is very young and charming in Camille, and at times reminds me of a young Darcy (in looks). I have found that no matter how uneven the production, there is always something of interest and value in each movie. Plus, there is always that fast forward button! ;-) Hi Caribou! Nice to meet you as well. Jennie, thanks so much for your report. How disappointing that he dashed off without answering any questions. Well, I am in a bit of a Firth funk over the Armadillo casting news. I am beginning to feel like I have hypomania from all these ups and downs. At least we have Conspiracy as a consolation prize. The cast sounds good: it will be fun to see Colin reunited with KB, and I like ST. I agree it will be good to see Colin in a character roll again where he can really shine.

Meant to say "role." :-)

(Evelyn), C'mon now gang.....Firth Fans are die-hards...we don't give up easily:-)) At this point, I would say that is the problem. ;-) (Karen), Moon: that site is the Hollywood Stock Exchange. I believe his stock just dropped. ;-) Shouldn't we be happy for Colin? He is doing a character part. ;-D LOL! Suis stat viribus! He stands by his own strengh. (Lisa), I am beginning to feel like I have hypomania from all these ups and downs. Welcome to the Firth Folly Roller Coaster. Evelyn will try to cheer you up. ;-) Having something to add is not a prerequisite for posting here. ;-D VVG! LOL!

Roller coaster indeed, Moon. Was amazed and pleased to see 60+ messages here since Sunday. After reading all the news you can make my martini a double. To (sorta) quote Ross in Playmaker: Lesson #5 - Don't count your Colin roles until you actually see the man in costume and makeup. (Have you see that film yet Noelle? Welcome back.) I add my welcome also to you, Caribou. As Karen said, don't wait until you have something to contribute - just plunge on in like the rest of us. Thanks for the details on the reading, Jennie. Elizabeth McGovern standing in for Judi Dench? That's a stretch. Wonder which accent Liz will use? ;-) Winter, what did you mean by this? Colin hasn't been a v. attentive hubby, I must say... LOL! I saw the German Wannsee Conference when it was shown on PBS several times a few years ago. Very chilling. It took place in one room. Had hoped that this new version might expand but if it's based on the actualy notes, I'd suppose it won't be so. After all, Colin could have played a good guy - one of the Czech patriots perhaps? ;-) Ah well, I suppose he's had it with playing nice but ineffectual men and wants to go back to being the bad guy again. Suppose it's soon time to trade in my Starz for HBO.

For anyone interested in more info on Stuckart than you'd find in the bios, he actually features in Robert Harris's novel "Fatherland" which is based on the what would have happened if Hitler had won the war. Harris did a lot of research for the book. He describes Stuckart as a "vain man and a curious mixture, curly grey hair, intense eyes, straight jawline, yet a flabby almost voluptuous mouth....an intellectuaal, a high flier." Stuckart was a member of the Interior Ministry's "Committee for the Protection of German Blood" in 1936, a tribunal of lawyers who considered applications for marriage between Aryans and non-Aryans.He was known to provide marriage licences in exchange for sleeping with the Jewish women who were applying. In the novel he has a Jewish mistress, whose antecedents are well disguised. A bit of a contradiction.

Top Ten Reasons Colin switched from Armadillo to Conspiracy: 10. Branagh lured him by promising him a plum role in the upcoming �Love�s Labours *Still* Lost.� 9. He�s gearing up for the Tribeca/DeNiro version of MOB, to be re-titled �Maid Of the Bronx,� the compelling story of John �Harry the Hat� Hatfield and his life on the lam after deflowering the daughter of a Mafia capo. 8. He�s always liked the name Wilhelm (of which Will is a derivative) 7. He�s never played a doctor before. 6. Having lurked on Darcy Drool, he knows he looks damn fine in shiny knee-high boots. 5. Two words: linzer torten. 4. He doesn�t want to ruin his reputation as a character actor. 3. Will laid a guilt trip on him, telling him that holiday fun at the Calley house consists of suctioning PopPop�s feeding tube to the beat of �Jingle Bells.� 2. It would have required location shooting beyond the reaches of the Tube. But the top reason Colin switched from Armadillo to Conspiracy is: 1. At the first rehearsal, someone said �Torquil Helvoir Jayne,� but he heard �Work is glee with Frain.� Feeling unwanted, he bailed. **** Conspiracy theories abound.;-)

ROTFLOL Mari! #2 and 5 would've been enough to sway him. Thanks for the info, Bethan. I read Fatherland and have it here...somewhere. They made it into a made-for-TV movie with Rutger Hauer. Not as good as the book.

Mari-oh-Mari, this is just what we needed! He�s gearing up for the Tribeca/DeNiro version of MOB, to be re-titled �Maid Of the Bronx,� Scenes outside Yankee Stadium will make a wonderful substitute for the Lakes. :-P Will laid a guilt trip on him, telling him that holiday fun at the Calley house consists of suctioning PopPop�s feeding tube to the beat of �Jingle Bells.� LMAO! someone said �Torquil Helvoir Jayne,� but he heard �Work is glee with Frain.� Pffffttt! Welcome, Caribou. Ditto to that said by the others. Do you think CF's right for the Torquil character, Moon? No way. (Mari) Remember, he was tied up with 3DOR during the holidays last year. This is a man with a geographically complicated personal life. Maybe last year was too difficult on them as a family. Two years ago I would have agreed, but IMO (like I have a *right* to an opinion in this matter? ;-)) that's changed. I think there was another reason for CF not playing Lorimer, especially if there was a last minute change in the casting. (Mari) maybe he has something else terrific lined up right after Conspiracy which he would not have been able to take if he were doing Armadillo through January or beyond. Now you're talkin'. :-) (Heide) Lesson #5 - Don't count your Colin roles until you actually see the man in costume and makeup. Think we should start chanting this mantra!

Mari, #1 and 3 had me ROTFLOL! I much appreciated it, thanks. Do you think CF's right for the Torquil character, Moon? No way. Yes way. Afraid so Eileen. I have a feeling that is what happened and he was not going to take the next big role when he was set to do the lead. (He has already seen what happened to the role of Mark Darcy once HG got Daniel). ONLY KIDDING, LADIES! ;-)

Bad news about Armadillo... but then Mari's list put me in good humour again. Thank you, Mari. My computer was down for almost a week thanks to some virus, and now I have it back - another reason to be happy. Welcome, Caribou, and stay with us :-)

I'm away from my PC for a couple of days and all hell breaks loose....Oh woe is Armadillo! *wailing and gnashing of teeth*. That's it I'm never gonna buy,borrow or read a book ever again for fear of putting a hex on .....well anything! I'll just sit her and sulk with my people.......until something else droolworthy comes along ;-( Moon, Heide, Ann ...line 'em up girls it's going to be a heavy session! LOL Mari! I liked nos 6 & 9...we can always rely on you to keep the spirits up. And finally............. WELCOME CARIBOU! We aren't usually this downheartened - honest!

Thanks for all the welcomes. I do indeed feel welcome and I know you're not always this downhearted. Mari, that was truly a professional top ten list -- v.v.funny. Perhaps, in light of all the gloom, it would be good time to share my moment of Firth serendipity. I was watching a gardening show. They were touring a garden in Italy and the host pointed out a giuggioli (that spelling looks wrong) tree. It is common in Italy and bears a date-like fruit. Even if this info is all wrong, it was a good, unexpected moment that only Firth fans could understand.

(Heide)Suppose it's soon time to trade in my Starz for HBO. I will too...and will tell HBO why I'm subscribing...(can't hurt) (Bethan)...on Stuckart than you'd find in the bios, he actually features in Robert Harris's novel "Fatherland" Is this the same Robert Harris who wrote the hilarious story "PMQ"in Speaking with Angels ".One of the best. Heide) Lesson #5 - Don't count your Colin roles until you actually see the man in costume and makeup. (Eileen)Think we should start chanting this mantra! May I add an addendum: Don't buy the book til you actually see.....etc. Mari..."Maid of the Bronx" too funny...along with Butterball...I will not read that book til it's 'suresy'...

Although my local bookstore was selling the hardcover of Armadillo for C$6.99, I have been reluctant to buy it for fear of jinxing this project. Alas and alack, my restraint didn't pay off. Is the book worth reading on its own merits? Can't say Conspiracy sounds like my cup of tea, as I usually avoid Nazi movies like the plague (don't like it that the ba-a-ad guys get so much media attention, I guess). Let's hope 2001 (the real start of the Millenium - I think?) will be a banner year for ODB.

The Tuesday Independent had an article entitled, "Fit for the Party Season: Cornel Chin is the Trainer Who Got Colin Firth Into Shape - For the Bridget Jones Film. He Show You How to Get a Better Body - Fast - Life" No other text except description of exercises.

Review from Victoria Moore, Daily Mail. 17 November Speaking with the Angel. For this collection of short stories Nick Hornby has enticed words from the pens of some of his favourtie writers: Melissa Bank, playwright Patrick Marber, Helen Fielding, Irvine Welsh and even Colin Firth (yes, Mr Darcy to you). Unusually, there is a common element to all these stories in that most of the authors employ an upfront, colloquial style. Very readable and the quality shows. Bur what you're dying to know is whether Firth's writing is as dishy as his acting. Well, yes, it's not half bad. Without the remotest trace of sentimentality, he writes about a schoolboy entranced by his dying grandmother's storytelling. Elsewhere, Irvine Welsh writes in proper English (though still with swearing) and Helen Fielding contributes a mischievous little story, Lucky Bitch, about an elderly lady determined to make people believe that she has fallen over because she is drunk, not because she is old.

Hope all goes well on the Birmingham trip, Ann and Aishling. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. And any info on DQ will be most gratefully received! For anyone interested, Blockbusters (UK) will have RV on Monday (2Oth) and MLSF next Monday (27th).

Thanks, Aishling. One question, is this Victoria Moore a book reviewer or an entertainment/gossip-type writer for the Mail?

DM...But what you're dying to know is whether Firth's writing is as dishy as his acting. Well, yes, it's not half bad. Thanks Aishling...agree with the reviewer,true, it's not half-bad.But then he's an actor, not a writer, doing a friend a favor. My comment is:can those other writers act as well as Mr Darcy;-D

Karen - a book reviewer.

(Me) Do you think CF's right for the Torquil character, Moon? No way. (Moon) Yes way. Really? Huh. That's tatamount to CF switching roles with Timothy Spall in Dutch Girls! Then again, in the dark, all cats are gray...;-) (Heide)Suppose it's soon time to trade in my Starz for HBO. (Evelyn) I will too Raid the piggy bank and keep both: Starz for the movies and HBO for the original programming. Dump Cinemax and Showtime. (Evelyn) Don't buy the book That's what libraries are for! Lynda, Aramadillo is a good read though it felt a bit unfinished at the end. (Independent article) He Show You How to Get a Better Body - Fast - Life *scratching head* Huh, what? Thanks for sharing the review, Aishling. (Evelyn) can those other writers act as well as Mr Darcy But that's not the material point (yeah, I know you know that ;-P).

Good find, Aishling, and coming from a book reviewer one can take it (semi-)seriously. But what you're dying to know is whether Firth's writing is as dishy as his acting. Sheesh, his name is almost a metaphor for sex appeal and the man still can't get top billing unless it's alphabetical. (Ev) My comment is:can those other writers act as well as Mr Darcy;-D LOL! Well, we've already seen Nick's debut. Not quite on the same level yet. Loved your find too, Karen: "Fit for the Party Season: Cornel Chin is the Trainer Who Got Colin Firth Into Shape - For the Bridget Jones Film. He Show You How to Get a Better Body - Fast - Life" Now tell me - which hook are they using to try to get people to read this article? Cornel, you parasite. ;-) Thanks, Mari, for your super Top 10 List. All great but I have a soft spot for #6.

Loved your Top Ten, Mari! Great stuff! I found a very interesting interview with Frank Pierson, director of "Conspiracy". I ccould understand why CF would want to work with him. He seems to be very eminent in his field, an intellectual heavyweight. Ditto the screenplay writer, Loring Mandel...Broadway plays, awards etc. . I'm sure this will be a thought provoking and intellectually rigorous film... history with a contemporary resonance, learning from (as opposed to being entertained by) the past (it's all happened again just recently in the Balkans). Again, perhaps this is why CF wanted to do this film. http://www.wga.org/craft/interviews/Pierson.html Rene Zellwegger was on the news, meeting the Queen. She was with Jim Carrey in London for the Royal Premiere of "The Grinch". She looked v. slim.

(Frank Pierson) "Listen, the films you're making are shit, and the stories you're telling are not worth hearing...One is to have a story to tell that's worth telling. That really requires doing something besides going to high school and college....A very shallow group at the top is doing work that is really, really interesting, and the rest are making such dumb, imitative dreck." Hey, I like this guy! :-) Thanks, Bethan.

Re: Frank Pierson Here is his page at the IMdb. He has a long time between projects. http://us.imdb.com/Name?Pierson,+Frank+(I)

(Frank Pierson) ....there is an assumption that because they have been brought up on film and video they can automatically, intuitively write, direct and act without ever having taken the steps to learn the language and the craft of those professions. He must have seen Mike Binder's stuff;-) Thanks Bethan. Congrats to HBO for taking on this heavy-weight stuff.

A project called "Conspiracy" for HBO; it's good to know that CF is working. It's a drama, as well. That's a boon for me, I've always felt that he was strongest as actor in drama. HBO might well be good news. Many of the made-for-HBO movies often garner more viewers than theatrically released films on the U.S. Besides, HBO attracts top-quality talent, quite often people who don't really do television. Hello Caribou. Are you from Canada? I'm sorry, it's rude to pry. I hope that you enjoy yourself here.

Forgot to mention, there was a positive mini-review of "Speaking with the Angel" in the Times last week...."very entertaining". Might be some reviews in the Sundays....it takes time for reviews to appear. Also, today's Times has a pic of CF and JA and a good review of RV which is Video of the Week...."Sparkling adaptation...all-star ensemble...a first-rate cast that tucks into each bon mot as if it were a delicious bobbon. Colin Firth channels the spirit of Coward himself, throwing epigrams off the cuff of a decidedly limp wrist".

Bobbon..should be "bonbon"!!

Thanks for the update everyone, what a lot to digest! And I thought it was my lime green paperback (still lying pristine and unread) that was the jinx!! Karen thanks for the new pic. Relating to that new "lean" (gaunt?) look, a friend told me that this week they saw a work colleague reading a "diet/fitness" article in one of the tabloids (mirror?) and it was billed as the trainer who got "Mr.Darcy" into shape etc. Sorry to be so vague. Interesting timing, better to wait until BJD release for maximum publicitytho'. Thanks too for the Italian Readings news. It is a shame he didn't stay. Good Luck Ann and Aishling for your DQ trip. Look forward to hearing all about it soon.

A good report on DQ from the Chicago Film Fest. Couldn't agree more, especially if it was turned down by Edinburgh and London! http://wwww.films2.com/newpages/news.asp?ArticleID=2359 Hope you have a good day, Ann and Aisling!

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Oh Gawd, can't believe this. Third attempt! http://www.films2.com/newpages/news.asp?ArticleID=2359

Great find, Bethan, and do agree on his assessment of those other films, all of which I saw. And is the LFF schedule really so strong that there was no available place for Donovan Quick? I fear the answer to the second question at least will be no. Donna did say that it wasn't entered at the LFF or Edinburgh, mainly due to lack of confidence from the BBC. You know, it wasn't the "type" of film that screens at Edinbugh. However, there was room at LFF for a movie about salsa dancing in Brixton. ;-)

Report on channel 5 earlier today with Gail Porter giving an A-Z of the LLF. I would agree Karen. Seems DQ is not "hip" enough! Naturally I only watched this in case I could ascertain why DQ wasn't shown!! Thanks Bethan, great find. Well, we will have to rely on Ann and Aishling now.

And is the LFF schedule really so strong that there was no available place for Donovan Quick? I fear the answer to the second question at least will be no. Despite the fact that Donna Franceschild disagreed....IMO there is a political element in the film that no one wants to take on....

I agree with you Evelyn. Especially with the recent behaviour of the Railroad industry - broken rails etc. then the shareholders being given a large reward at the expense of the commuters etc.

Hello, I am definitely the new kid on the block. I have enjoyed so much reading some of your entries here. I had a friend tape Secret Laughter of Women for me. She missed the first five or ten minutes so I have questions if anyone has seen it. How does CF's character come to be in Africa? How does he meet the little boy? Do we meet his wife at the beginning or only when she comes to Africa?

Welcome Janine! Ask any questions you like. Us "old kids on the block" are always happy to answer. CF's character, Matthew Field, is never in Africa. The whole movie takes place in the south of France, where he has a villa at which he does his writing. He and Sammy meet when Sammy boasts to his school friend (and his mother who is doing the driving) that he lives in the big house. He just walks in and hides in there for a bit, while his friend comes to the door ostensibly to return something, but really to check on him. Matthew answers it and sees Sammy hiding and plays along, as if Sammy lived there. Sammy notices the watch Matthew wears, which has to do with that comic book character and they strike up a friendship. We meet the wife later on as you saw. Have your friend retape it for you. ;-D

It was great to see DQ on the big screen and we loved it. ODB does look so good. Approx 40 people attended but the cinema is small so it didn�t look too bad. The audience response was very good. David Blair and Donna Franceschild attended and were introduced before the start of the film. DF gave a short synopsis of the film and informed us that this would the first time DB had seen DQ on the big screen as he had not attended the Chicago or Halifax Film Festivals because he will not fly. She also said it was a film made out of love and not remuneration. Lots of laughter. Mentioned that DQ had been rejected by the London and Edinburgh Film Festivals so big applause for Birmingham. DF said it is unlikely they would find a UK distributor but is optimistic for further afield. No countries mentioned. DB talked at length about his decision to cast David Brown (Sandy) with the approval of the cast. He gave great credit to the cast for their patience and support with David and said Colin was extremely unselfish. The first question asked was �Have you been sued by Stagecoach?� More laughter. DB replied �No�, but then they haven�t seen the film. Q. Did you think about changing the ending so that the small businessman won? DB No, because it wouldn�t be realistic and would also change the whole end of the film. Q. I have noticed that you have worked with Katy Murphy on several of your projects. DF I first met her 10 years ago and think she is a very good actress and plays sympathetic and vunerable extremely well. Q to DB Did you enjoy DQ on big screen. DB Yes, I think it has transferred very well. Ann asked about the BBC and will report when she finally arrives home.

Finally!! Only 40 people in the audience? Doesn't sound too good. You probably couldn't tell how many people were attending some of the other films, could you? It appears DF's story has changed, as she said DQ wasn't entered in any of those fests. Am anxious to hear Ann's report about her question re: BBC, especially after I pick myself off the floor. ;-D Did it seem television-like to you? I mention this as many of you in the UK thought MLSF was television fare. Wish she elaborated on the "further afield" stuff...

Thanks for the report, Aishling. I'm so glad you and Ann had the opportunity to see it on the big screen, and that the audience response was good. Bethan, thanks for the article on DQ at the Chicago FF. This writer hit the nail on the head!