~tamzin
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (12:52)
#601
Fantastic pictures - he looks so well and rested. Thank you Karen. Wonder how Sharon M felt being interviewed alongside him like that remembering what she said when she had to stand in for Renee opposite him and say "I love you".
~KarenR
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (14:07)
#602
(Cathey) Following is an article from an Australian Magazine.
Thanks for taking the time to type out the article. Always nice to see a little hype for our boy. A shame they had to publish those pics under the guise of BJD publicity.
A bigger shame is that a Holier-Than-Thou webmistress posted the article and the pics. While she constantly takes things from here without giving credit, I never thought I'd live to see the day she did this... :-(
~lafn
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (14:28)
#603
I'm thinking Colin showed off his Italian during the press conference...don't you think?
Thanks Cathey for taking the time to type the article.We always enjoy the publicity from your neck of the woods.
A bigger shame is that a Holier-Than-Thou webmistress posted the article and the pics.
Thank you boss, for taking the high road on Spring.We all know he was upset over those pics. I thought that's why we have Springfolks.
(Bethanne)LOL Evelyn, I'm sure looking at that BAFTA on her bookshelf, made filling in all those Waterstone job applications, less of a chore.
Hey pal...you forgot your *winkie*;-)
~MarianneC
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (16:22)
#604
Fox News reprinted the AP article by Matt Wolf from a few days ago, pictures are of CF & FO, and JD and director, Oliver Parker.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,31400,00.html
~lafn
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (17:24)
#605
Pardon my bad manners, Moon.
Grazie for giving Karen the Lucarno FF heads-up.Trans Atlantic!
What a team...
You made our weekend.
~alicen
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (20:02)
#606
The pictures at the Locarno Film Festival just took my breath away! I just shook my head and said "he is too good-looking!" This is all very odd for me - I am a 30+ year old happily married woman with kids and a career and I have a crush on colin firth after seeing BJD.
~odessa
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (20:58)
#607
On Finnish Cosmopolitan cover:COLIN FIRTH -SEX SYMBOL AGAINST HIS WILL
I didn`t have time to look at the article, but I`m going shopping tomorrow:)
~heide
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (23:04)
#608
I haven't been keeping up on the TIOBE news, but I checked on the Fox site. Thanks, Marianne.
And my oh my, those Locarno shots. Ding dong, indeed! But what's with the PC dribble Sharon's spouting? (Hope you don't mind me filching this quote from your site, Karen:)
At the end Bridget chooses the more reliable (Firth) but as the director
said, "They are two different types, one to marry and the other to have
as a lover. It would be lovely if one woman could have both even in real
life."
I know she was just trying to be nice to Hughie as well as molto Italiano but Ms. Maguire, you can't honestly mean Mark couldn't fulfill both roles quite satisfactorily.
What techie stuff did I miss? I haven't got my DVD yet and could use the advice.
~KarenR
Sun, Aug 5, 2001 (23:49)
#609
Great Earnest pics, Marianne. Thanks.
I've added a couple of links to Real Video and audio from Locarno. The video is mainly Sharon Maguire with the movie trailer, but hang in there as Colin is shown being interviewed as well. Unfortunately, there is Italian narration over the whole thing, as in the Audio interview link which is a Q&A session with Colin. Gaaah :-(
http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/bjdlff.html
If anyone would like to take a stab at translating Colin's interview back into English, feel free. ;-)
I'm sure there's another Conference on Spring more appropriate for a discussion of DVD features/prices or email.
~Bethanne
Mon, Aug 6, 2001 (04:09)
#610
Yummy video, thanks Karen. I admire SM for obviously being able to answer the journalists questions, 'wot with being pressed up against Col's chest like that, sharing a microphone. If it were me, I'd be hyperventilating and stuttering to beat the band.
If I remember right in BJD and The Edge of Reason, Shazzer and Jude were just as smitten by Mr Darcy/Colin, as Bridge was. I wonder if working with him every day filming BJD, cured her of all that, or if she still gets butterflies in her tummy, when she is up close with him ? O to be SM during that press conference....
~Allison2
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (07:22)
#611
Where is everybody? I know those pics from Locarno were devastating but surely everybody has recovered now;-)
O to be SM during that press conference....
I have a horrid feeling SM might be more of a Huge girl:-(. I thought her comments about a girl needing a Daniel type as a lover and a Mark as a husband probably reflected her own views and were not just her being diplomatic. After all Colin is a smug married while HG is a famous flirt.
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (12:55)
#612
(Allison) I have a horrid feeling SM might be more of a Huge girl:-(.
Very true. Even though she may have been part of the group that came under the spell while watching P&P, she probably liked Huge from way back when. It's that or she felt an overwhelming need to stroke his ego by playing up to him in all the press.
BTW, Terry has set up several DVD topics, one of them is in Movies, so go to it.
~EileenG
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (15:32)
#613
(Allison) Where is everybody?
Am back from vac and reporting for duty, ma'am. ;-P Am sure many others are still away. People tend to do that sort of thing in August.
Karen, loved your hilarious Official MoB Fairy Tale. Was ROTF. Thanks also for the FF pics (hats off to Moon!). Have super-duper zoomed in on that pink piece of paper in CF's hand. It says 'call Karen ASAP, for hot role tips'.
So did he call? ;-D
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (17:37)
#614
(Eileen) It says 'call Karen ASAP, for hot role tips'.
Gaah! Have been on the phone all a.m. Probably has been trying to call. ;-)
~Bethanne
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (18:10)
#615
Well if he left you a message, plueeeze don't do what Bridge did in E of R and erase the darn thing with an incoming call. Do you have any friends called Tom ? If you do, e mail him and, tell him not to call you under ANY circumstances.
Am dying to hear if you remained calm, cool and collected in manner of detatched ice queen, while you were on the phone with him.
~MarianneC
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (19:22)
#616
Found this little item in this week's The National Enquirer.
THAT SPECIAL TOUCH: Gay actor Rupert Everett ad-libbed two weird moves that stunned co-star Colin Firth while filming "The Importance of Being Earnest." In a scene where they're supposed to shake hands, Rupert swept Colin into his arms and KISSED HIM on the cheek! And in a shot that called for Rupert to slap Colin on the back - he slapped him on the ass instead! Both times, Colin's stunned reaction cracked everyone up! After viewing the scenes, the director elected to keep them - and Colin agreed!
~lafn
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (19:32)
#617
LOL.That's Rupee, the "scene -stealer". Sounds hilarious.Definitely not in the play;-)
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (19:40)
#618
(Marianne) Found this little item in this week's The National Enquirer.
Was the line very long at the grocery store? ;-)
(birdcage liner) After viewing the scenes, the director elected to keep them - and Colin agreed!
Wot, no pictures??? Hopefully, the latter scene was while Jack is getting out of the tub. *hee hee*
~EileenG
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (20:29)
#619
Pffft! Who wants to bet we'll be reading this at Ananova or PeopleNews (assuming latter is still operating) tomorrow?
Homophobic Firth Stunned by Gay Costar
[content same as National Birdcage Liner's but without exclamation points and with a misappropriated quote or two.]
Am glad they decided to keep the scenes as is. Is worth the price of admission. ;-)
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (21:06)
#620
(Evelyn) That's Rupee, the "scene -stealer"....Definitely not in the play;-)
As was done by "The Man Born to Do Oscar Wilde," I'm sure it should've been. ;-)
~caribou
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (21:40)
#621
RE: Film Festival Pics
I'm glad this is the place to drool because pictures of CF just keep getting better and better and better. Doesn't he know he's over forty and can stop looking so gorgeous now? Not even a bald spot showing. Now how did that happen?
~rachael
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (22:01)
#622
Caribou, absolutely!! AFG or what? corrr .. if only I could work out why my sound card isn't working I could listen to the Locarno stuff, instead of watch and lip read - but then, what lips to read *thud* oops fell off chair
~Becka
Tue, Aug 7, 2001 (23:53)
#623
It's offically a fix!
Just saw the Hollywood Movie Awards coverage on ET.
Guess who was at the awards?
Loved the question to NK about how many people were 'touched' by the film to vote for it.
Ya right. Sure they were touched - by cookieitis.
~Bethanne
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (01:37)
#624
Yup, I saw it too......talk about a fix, sheesh !!
~LouiseJ
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (03:41)
#625
Marianne: Rupert swept Colin into his arms and KISSED HIM on the cheek! And. . . slapped him on the ass instead! Both times, Colin's stunned reaction cracked everyone up! After viewing the scenes, the director elected to keep them - and Colin agreed!
Well, if they do indeed keep those scenes in the film, we'll know who the playwright's alter ego is meant to be (as if we didn't already). The question is, will Cecily "know" that Algy's pendulum swings both ways? This film may be historic for the subtext alone--if the actors play the scenes the opposite of the literal meaning of the words. I can hardly wait to see Judi Dench flirting with CF and RE. Imagine how she can put new meaning into the term "recumbent position". ;-)
~LouiseJ
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (03:59)
#626
Oh, excuse me, that would be "semi-recumbent posture", wouldn't it? (I sort of like mine better, as far as double entendres go).
~Bethanne
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (04:16)
#627
So when Rupee smacked Col on his posterior, do we actually see his hand make contact, or is it a face shot and we merely see Col's reaction to aforementioned butt smack ? Hmmmmmm, enquiring minds need to know.
~Becka
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (04:24)
#628
Hey if you can catch the Tonight Show, Caroline Rhea is on and she talks about Colin's visit to Rosie and how he didn't 'get' her joke about it being down to her or Renee for the role. Of course dear Jay didn't know who ODB was - thought he was from Notting Hill! ;-P
Bloody hell I am in heaven tonight - a Colin mention and my bloody fave band!!!!
~KarenR
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (04:25)
#629
(Rebecca) Loved the question to NK about how many people were 'touched' by the film to vote for it.
That was funny, wasn't it? Am picturing the scene if the BJD crowd had been there. Colin would be standing there awkwardly (in manner of EMcG), while Julie Moron only spoke to RZ, with strange, silent person (film's director) standing on other side. Colin would then obliging mumble two words about seeing his co-star again. Back to RZ.
Hmmm, have just noticed that Valmont is on TV tomorrow night (AMC). Is this a first? Feels like an event to me...might have to put aside my James Dean tape fest...
Carolyn Rhea is on Leno right now and has been telling her CF story. Leno wasn't understanding who he was (argh, said Notting Hill) and CR said, "no, no, he's the gorgeous one from BJD." Went over badly.
~Bethanne
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (04:48)
#630
Is there somewhere I can send flowers to Caroline Rhea at ? Major, major props to her, for mentioning ODB on national TV and generally spreading the disease of Firthitis amongst the masses. ( Who needs West Nile Virus when we have Firthitis ? ) What a shame Leno had to spoil it....gahh !!!
What time is Valmont on ?
~lafn
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (15:23)
#631
FRom one of the London Theatre websites:
"6th August 2001
Dame Judi Dench, Colin Firth, Reese Witherspoon and Rupert Everett are expected to star in a new movie version of Oscar Wilde's classic play The Importance of Being Earnest. The comedy has been filmed before, with Michael Redgrave and Edith Evans in the leads, back in 1952. However, Parker's version (due for Christmas release) may yet ruffle a few feathers with the director stating, "The spirit of Earnest demands something different... something wonderfully light but anarchic". A stage version, starring Patricia Routledge enjoyed a West End run earlier this year having initially played at the Theatre Royal, Haymarket in 1999. Dame Judi played Lady Bracknell in the National Theatre's 1982 production"
~~~~~~~~~~
From the reports of Rupee's antics on the set, sounds like anarchy is alive and well on the set of TIOBE;-)Roll on Christmas.
*evelyn , who is walking the streets looking for anyone who take Cinemax*
~EileenG
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (16:48)
#632
are expected to star
Ooh, crack reporting. Film is in can. :-/
evelyn , who is walking the streets looking for anyone who take Cinemax
Can't you subscribe for just a month? I remember others doing that in the past, when RV was broadcast on Starz.
(Beth) Is there somewhere I can send flowers to Caroline Rhea
Send 'em with a note informing her that he *did* get her joke.
~rachael
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (18:08)
#633
Blackadder Back and Forth is on Sky One (UK) tonight at 10 pm (just in case anyone's checking in here in time)
~heide
Wed, Aug 8, 2001 (22:57)
#634
Carolyn Rhea is on Leno right now and has been telling her CF story.
.... Went over badly.
Good, maybe she'll take that story out of her bag of tricks. Love her to death for calling him gorgeous on national TV but she makes ODB sound like humorless prig.
Ooh, thanks, Karen, for the headsup on Valmont. 10:00 pm tonight, EST. I may actually still be awake.
Nice of Terry to have set up a DVD topic. Shall I meet you other girls there?
~Bethanne
Thu, Aug 9, 2001 (02:16)
#635
Valmont is on now, Valmont is on now.......ahhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~terry
Mon, Aug 13, 2001 (18:28)
#636
We're back!
Thanks for helping us, Koti!
koti@spring.net got us running again.
~terry
Mon, Aug 13, 2001 (18:39)
#637
If you want to email your thanks to Koti, I won't mind!
~KateDF
Mon, Aug 13, 2001 (18:51)
#638
Hurrah! I just came back from vacation, and this morning my pseudonym was shown as "unprivileged user." Scared me silly! I thought I was being thrown off for not having posted for more than a week. I couldn't find an internet cafe anywhere we were, so I had to make do with just one picture of Colin for almost two weeks. (A friend made a bookmark with his face on it. So I use that as the bookmark in my diary, thus I have an excuse for carrying Colin with me)
I missed reading all the posts and seeing the pictures at the Bucket. Going back to take another look at those, now!
~mari
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (01:37)
#639
The New York Post has an online ballot on which you can cast your vote/prediction for the Emmys. At the risk of being ridden out of here on a rail, I must point out that this is not a contest. ;-)
http://www.pagesix.com/emmys/emmys.htm
Karen, the Locarno pics and report are breathtaking! Ding Dong, indeed!:-) What a find--big kudos to you and Signora Luna.
~LouiseJ
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (02:43)
#640
If there's a spot for write-in votes, I have a premonition that "Red Mill" will win. Again.
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (04:35)
#641
Signora Luna would rather have a Cosmopolitan rather than a kudo. ;-) Hmmm, can you possibly think of anything better than to watch BJD under the stars with a certain bellringer around...
BTW, are people aware that Fever Pitch is being shown on HBO late Tuesday/early Wednesday morning. Colin's films are finally making it to our television. Unfortunately, the TV Guide (the real one, not newspaper supplement) showed the film as starring Luke Aikman and Beatrice Guard. Was that the mother??????
~lizbeth54
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (09:20)
#642
are people aware that Fever Pitch is being shown on HBO
Holly Aird (who was in FP) featured in this week's Sunday Times glossy mag. She mentions CF....."He's sexy because he's an extremely nice man."
~studybees
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (09:47)
#643
there's more than one film called Fever Pitch...are you sure it's not the non-CF one?
~aishling
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (10:55)
#644
Definitely CF version. LA is young Paul and BG Paul's sister who must have starred for all of five minutes:-)
~studybees
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (11:37)
#645
Bizarre!
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (12:27)
#646
Thanks, Aishling, for identifying Beatrice. I was too lazy to look it up, but of course recognized Luke's name, plus there's the year/country of origin and film description which all matched. The only thing missing was the name of the STAR of the film. :-)
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (12:37)
#647
Here's the link to the Sunday Times article about "New Brits on the Lot" where she says 'sexy because he's a really nice guy':
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/08/12/stimazmaz02005.html?999
[Didn't know that Holly was in the Flame Trees of Thika as a child.]
~BenB
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (12:43)
#648
Hello.
I've been away for a while. Followed interestedly the discussion about CF's withdrawal from Hamlet. I won't add anything, except to say that it's a shame no Firthettes will now be visiting London.
Almost entirely off the subject, I preferred Sam West to SRB.
Back on the subject, I will offer only a dismissive sneer at the decision to relegate JE to the background of the DVD cover. The favourable comparison with Jane - the abundance of flesh crammed into one sister's neck is rather more attractively distributed in the other - is all the starker.
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (12:51)
#649
Speaking of Fever Pitch, Empire has an item (from the Mirror) about the American remake of the film which I shall put on Topic 148...even though Empire has a pic of CF accompanying the article.
Nice to see you back, Ben. However, fortunately, for you, the British DVD shows a very equal JE and CF on its cover. Besides, art should not be judged by the amount of cleavage shown.
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (21:44)
#650
From the same people who don't know when to broadcast Conspiracy:
Spielberg drama loses BBC1 primetime slot
Steven Spielberg's Second World War drama Band of Brothers has lost its primetime BBC1 slot in a schedule change. It was not considered mainstream enough for primetime broadcast and will appear instead on BBC2.
The show was directed by Spielberg and actor Tom Hanks.
Its �7million price tag makes it the most expensive programme ever bought by the BBC.
BBC1 controller Lorraine Heggessey told the Media Guardian: "It's a fantastic, quality piece of drama.
"It looks like a movie. But I didn't think it was broad enough for a mainstream audience."
The BBC bought the series before Heggessey took control, but their decision to play down the drama coupled with its high price tag could spark controversy.
*shaking head*
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (21:53)
#651
Here's the full article from the Media Guardian:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,536820,00.html
But do click on this for the Guardian's suggestions for alternative ways to spend the �7million (especially #2):
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,536934,00.html
~rachael
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (21:59)
#652
Interesting that this week the Guardian reckons 7 million = 7 hours of P+P when an article last week about the return of Only Fools and Horses quoted P+P as costing 750,000 quid an hour ... maybe they could use some of it to film some of the "sequels" in fanfic *ROFL*
~KarenR
Tue, Aug 14, 2001 (22:14)
#653
maybe they could use some of it to film some of the "sequels" in fanfic *ROFL*
Yes, they'd be more costly to film. Think of all the ripped shirts and laundry expense! ;-)
Another Colin mention in The Times yesterday:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,622-2001281173,00.html
~mari
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (02:07)
#654
Speaking of Fever Pitch, Empire has an item (from the Mirror) about the American remake of the film
Yes, and they've totally fabricated Nick Hornby's reaction; we know the truth because people here heard it. Shades of Helen Fielding being allegedly miffed over BJD casting. :-(
Another Colin mention in The Times yesterday
More inaccuracy--wot's that nonsense about his name being tiny on the BJ posters here? He had higher billing than in the UK!
I can't get over how they just make this stuff up.
While I'm in a good mood ;-), I may as well weigh in on the P&P DVD cover. While I'll happily display it next to my boxed video set . . . this isn't right. It's all about marketing; A&E knows it'll sell more this way. He was wonderful, but it's Jennifer's show all the way. To see her relegated to the background with Jane . . . ridiculous. If the Lizzie portrayal isn't right, the whole show goes down the tubes. I expected better from A&E.
On a brighter note, Apartment Zero will be on Starz this Thursday evening, 10 p.m.
~Bethanne
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (02:59)
#655
So where do we send our suggestions for which Fan Fic story to be filmed first, with the excess 7 million quid ?
I'm going to nominate that story about Arabella's conception, when Darcy and Lizzie...er...."do it" half way up a tree. I'm not slighting the works of our other talened authors, really I'm not It's just that the Beeb wouldn't exactly have to cough up mega bucks for sets, now would they ? Safety nets and bug spray are far cheaper than hiring out stately homes as locations.
I have also read quite a bit about British ire, that recent World War 2 movies focus more on American participation in the war, than that of the British. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a factor, in the Beeb giving it a less prestigious time slot. While Saving Private Ryan was a fabulous movie, I know some British Veterans Association's noses were a little out of joint at the plot which they felt implied the American involvemnt in D Day was more important than theirs was. I never got that impression from Saving Private Ryan, but then again I didn't risk my life 56 years ago on the beaches of Normandy....so what do I know ?
~KarenR
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (04:27)
#656
Not to minimize the incredible English effort in fighting the Axis powers (fairly single-handedly for many years) and enduring the bombings, Saving Private Ryan was strictly about the landing at Omaha Beach. You guys landed on another beach, where they weren't slaughtered. This movie isn't about anybody winning an entire war. It's about a senseless little mission to find one little guy. Please, let's not overblow this one.
As I read in one of your newspapers some time ago, if you want to showcase your history, then you're going to have to make the movies. Don't blame us if we concentrate on American contributions. Just look at the project Russell Crowe is going to direct. It too is WWII, but about an Aussie unit.
My whole point was: you don't get more mainstream than Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. It's not possible. Lorraine just tossed your money away.
~LouiseJ
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (04:40)
#657
But do click on this for the Guardian's suggestions for alternative ways to spend the �7million (especially #2)
I'll second #2 (as long as extra P&P2 scenes involve ODB), and if I may, I'll cast yet another vote for #6. I just love Jack Frost.
~Bethanne
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (08:14)
#658
Sorry Karen, I didn't mean to imply that that I wanted to stir up the WW2 controversy, mentioned in the Guardian article. I just remember reading/hearing a fair bit about it, over the past year or so, thats all.
I have no feelings on the matter myself. The county I come from, didn't even fight in WW2 so I'm not really informed enough to have an opinion, one way or another.
~BenB
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (09:44)
#659
I agree about SPR - great film, and never intended to portray the entire Allied effort. (There were three British beaches, btw, and a fair number of casualties on them, including my own grandfather.)
People get pissed off not so much with ommissions as with clear fabrication - (U-571, the Patriot, etc.)
Of course, for inventiveness, nothing beats Fleet St. - the exaggeration of NH's reaction should come as no surprise. As a three-year visitor at Fenway, I am looking forward to the film. (With due apologies to both, there is definitely a similarity between the moaning of the Arsenal and BoSox fans.)
As for JE, I freely admit that my objection to her relegation on A&E's cover had nothing to do with art.
~KarenR
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (13:42)
#660
~KarenR
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (13:45)
#661
No need to apologize, Beth. I probably shouldn't have gotten on my soapbox.
(Ben) People get pissed off not so much with ommissions as with clear fabrication - (U-571, the Patriot, etc.)
Quite. I don't condone messing around with the facts. Again, I don't wish to minimize or trivialize the British effort, except that the Germans were there to meet the US landing at Omaha in great strength and covered the other beaches where they thought the landing might occur to a lesser degree.
(Ben) nothing beats Fleet St. - the exaggeration of NH's reaction
And I thought you guys understood irony. ;-)
~BenB
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (16:17)
#662
What price CF?
�7m for seven hours means a million an hour for P&P. Colin on screen for, say, one third of the time? That's 50G per Colin-minute. It SEEMS a lot. But wait!
Let's give it a worldwide audience of 20 million (does someone have a more accurate figure?), each of whom (judging by present company) has seen it at least twice, on average. That works out at less than 0.2 cents per Colin-minute per woman.
I call that a good deal.
~EileenG
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (17:44)
#663
Two years and three months of free biscuits and tea for everyone at the BBC
Heehee. Brain food.
(Karen) My whole point was: you don't get more mainstream than Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. It's not possible. Lorraine just tossed your money away.
After seeing HBO's (somewhat melodramatic, IMO) promo, Band of Brothers strikes me as 'SPR II.' So I see your point, Beth. I agree with Karen that the Beeb should have considered the issue of mainstream-ness before they signed the cheque for 7M.
~mari
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (18:56)
#664
Here's what I don't understand about the Band of Brothers/BBC "controversy":
Doesn't the same audience who gets BBC1 also get BBC2? In other words, doesn't it have the potential to reach the same number of people?
Regardless, the series cost $80 million to produce. Presumably, a fair chunk of that was plowed into the local English economy, in terms of acting jobs, crew, craftspeople, location access fees, lodging, meals, transportation, etc. Surely much more than 7 million worth. So, it's gone out of one pocket but right back into the other. Seems like good business--and good public policy--to me, no matter what channel eventually shows it.
~EileenG
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (19:04)
#665
Had my date with Paul this morning on HBO Signature (wish the blonde with the shrill voice didn't show up too ;-)). *sigh*
~rachael
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (19:04)
#666
Mari, the same audience get BBC 1 and 2 - everyone gets it - but traditionally, BBC1 is regarded as the populist mainstream channel and BBC2 is for the arts, and less obviously mainstream stuff.
This whole BBC/HBO business is extremely annoying when the BBC can't even say when they'll screen things they co-produced!! as discussed earlier, why do we pay our licence fee? *rant*
~Bryonny
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (19:15)
#667
(Karen)BTW, are people aware that Fever Pitch is being shown on HBO late Tuesday/early Wednesday morning. Colin's films are finally making it to our television. Unfortunately, the TV Guide (the real one, not newspaper supplement) showed the film as starring Luke Aikman and Beatrice Guard. Was that the mother??????
In a bizarre coincidence (or not), FP will be showing next Tuesday on the Canadian Showcase channel. The TV Guide description sounds the same as yours; i.e. no mention of CF.
And one of our movie channels (CEN) starts running RV next week. Maybe I'm on a roll and they'll actually show something I haven't seen! Conspiracy hasn't made it here yet.
~MysteryMan
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (19:18)
#668
BBC had been led to believe there would be much more to which a British audience could relate. It will now go on a more culturally elitist channel (BBC 2) It will still be shown.
~mari
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (20:23)
#669
Thanks for the clarification on the Beebs, Rachael. As for Conspiracy, my guess is they'll schedule it soon after the Emmy Awards; if it does well in the Emmys, then that's an extra "hook" for reporters/critics to put into their articles i.e., "the award-winning film, Conspiracy."
Miss Teryman/Mister Eman) BBC had been led to believe
By whom? The book by Stephen Ambrose on which the series is closely based was published almost 10 years ago. I can't see how there could be any confusion about its content.
Anyway, my original point was actually to cut the BBC some slack as I felt that the press carping was unjustified. But, I know things often look differently to outsiders.
~rachael
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (20:46)
#670
Mari, the same audience get BBC 1 and 2 - everyone gets it - but traditionally, BBC1 is regarded as the populist mainstream channel and BBC2 is for the arts, and less obviously mainstream stuff.
This whole BBC/HBO business is extremely annoying when the BBC can't even say when they'll screen things they co-produced!! as discussed earlier, why do we pay our licence fee? *rant*
~rachael
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (20:47)
#671
oops!! sorry, don't know how I did that twice!
~KarenR
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (22:32)
#672
BBC had been led to believe
(Mari) By whom?
By the same person who kept DQ on the shelf, but of course. *snort*
(Rachael) BBC1 is regarded as the populist mainstream channel and BBC2 is for the arts, and less obviously mainstream stuff.
Thanks for the clarification. So BBC2 is where you'd go to watch reruns of "I Love Lucy," right?
~Becka
Wed, Aug 15, 2001 (23:08)
#673
Bryonny:
Are you in Canada?
Cause I was curious about the channel you mentioned (CEN) playing Relative Values. I haven't seen it yet! :-(
~EileenG
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (13:50)
#674
(Mari) Miss Teryman/Mister Eman
LOL! Ah, but MysteryMan sees all, knows all. *snort*
(Rachael) the same audience get BBC 1 and 2
What's the difference in viewership? Just curious--I want to be prepared when I hear that Conspiracy will air on BBC2. ;-)
~luvvy
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (16:05)
#675
Well, I'll say this for MysteryMan, at least he/she can write a graceful sentence without ending it with a preposition.
~lafn
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (16:16)
#676
It never don't make no difference to me;-)
~LauraT
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (16:45)
#677
Ooh, my favorite Churchill quote, re ending sentences with a preposition: "A pedantry up with which I will not put."
Um, Band of Brothers. I'm actually frightened that someone thought that filming a Stephen Ambrose book was a good idea. God bless him, but after a while you feel bludgeoned by his point of view, even with the books.
~Bryonny
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (16:57)
#678
Rebecca: Yes, I'm in Western Canada and CEN is one of the cable movie channels not on basic cable. I don't know if the East is different. All the vid stores here have RV however, so I've rented it. And if you happened to copy only the CF scenes, by the way, which I'm sure I'd never do, it only takes 30 minutes of space!
~EileenG
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (17:09)
#679
(Evelyn) It never don't make no difference to me ;-)
Me neither. *sniff* Though I abhor dangling gerunds. *sticking my nose in the air*
Wish there was CF news.
~rachael
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (17:30)
#680
Eileen
the top rated programmes on BBC1 (soaps, big football matches, big comedies) will get between 12-14 million viewers, a major one off event might get 18 million viewers; the top stuff on BBC2 will get around 4-5 million, but most BBC2 programmes will be less than this
~KarenR
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (17:42)
#681
Grammar: 1
Content: 0
~Bethanne
Thu, Aug 16, 2001 (18:44)
#682
Reads frantically thru all archived posts to check my grammer.....ack, ack, ack, don't like what I see.
~Eljanfor51
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (03:42)
#683
Correct me if I am wrong. Hamlet was cancelled because it "conflicted with Mr. Firth's filming schedule." I know you ladies to be crack detectives (among your many other talents), yet we know nothing of any filming with which to conflict. My obsession is in need of food.
~LouiseJ
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (04:19)
#684
Just caught Apartment Zero on Starz East. I can't believe TV Now didn't even mention it. Can it be that Starz changed their schedule from that originally planned due to CF's popularity? Maybe they have been deluged with e-mails demanding more movies starring Colin Firth. And only a couple of weeks to go until Londinium. It's good to be a cable subscriber (with multiplex) right now. ODB was so adorable in AZ. You just wanted to cuddle him when his mum died. Except he would have probably climbed straight up the wall if you tried, due to his particular neuroses. What a performance. "If that's a mask. . ." Sigh.
~mari
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (15:59)
#685
I watched it last night also, Louise. It's among my Firth faves. And isn't this timely--an interview I've never seen before from '89, in which CF talks about it. Many thanks to Lisa, who sleuthed this one out. Enjoy!:-)
ACTOR ON THE RUN: FROM `VALMONT' TO `APARTMENT ZERO' --
COLIN FIRTH'S EFFORTS INCLUDE A VERSION OF `DANGEROUS
LIAISONS'
(BY) JOHN HARTL
09/10/1989 The Seattle Times
Can Colin Firth be ``a sexier bad guy'' than John Malkovich?
According to this month's Premiere magazine, that's what it will
take if Milos Forman's ``Valmont,'' the latest and most expensive
film version of ``Dangerous Liaisons,'' hopes to match or top the
success of last year's Oscar-winning adaptation of the story.
Firth plays the title role - the Malkovich part - in the $36 million
production, which opens in mid-November. To many moviegoers,
Malkovich was the chief problem with last year's version, and the
success or failure of the Forman film will most likely rest on the
actor playing Valmont.
``Milos' version is going to be incredibly different,'' said the
28-year-old Firth during a trip to Seattle this week. ``The characters
have the same names, the story is still about sexual manipulation,
but that leaves room for a lot of differences.
``Our emphasis is not on overtly decadent behavior. `Valmont' has
more to do with what it is that works when you manipulate
someone. There are hearts beating inside these characters, and
you should leave the theater with questions about Valmont's true
feelings. If you're not convinced that he can persuade this woman
that she's changed him, if that doesn't work, the audience will
laugh.''
While Firth is gearing up for the publicity push that will inevitably
surround the release of ``Valmont,'' he was actually in town to talk
about another movie: Martin Donovan's extraordinary thriller,
``Apartment Zero,'' which opens Friday at the Egyptian. At the
Seattle International Film Festival three months ago, it won the
audience awards for best picture and director.
Firth plays the very un-Valmontlike part of a repressed, neurotic
Buenos Aires film buff named Adrian, who is so obsessed with
movies that he declares at one point that he can't be friends with
anyone who's never heard of Geraldine Page. When Adrian takes
in an American roommate of questionable background (Hart
Bochner), their relationship and the film start to function on
increasingly complicated psychological-political levels.
``Adrian's only reference point is film,'' said Firth. ``He only
understands film language. When Jack (the Bochner character)
turns up, it's as if he'd just stepped off the screen and into Adrian's
life. Adrian is such a pitiful creature, so transparent; he sees
himself as a David Niven character, the perfect English gentleman,
but he's really quite pathetic.''
Firth based his characterization on a couple of people he knows,
and a ``precious, brittle movie-obsessive'' he once observed at a
British art house. He thinks the character's speech patterns ``come
out of constipation''; during the shooting of the film, he and
Donovan decided to include several scenes in which Adrian talks
to himself, once in Spanish.
``I think I gave Adrian a certain neurotic fastidiousness that is not in
the script, but Hart had the more difficult job,'' he said. ``He had to
appear to be a boring fellow, and it's tough to play that kind of
superficially easygoing character. He was very intense about
getting it right. I know very few English actors who ever take the job
as seriously as Hart did.''
During the three months he stayed in Buenos Aires, Firth became
increasingly aware of the political focus of the script, which makes
frequent references to the recent repressiveness of the Argentine
government.
``Just five years ago, they were scooping people up off the street,''
he said. ``I loved the country, which has such an air of
sophistication that you can't see why they're repeatedly susceptible
to fascism. But it's a very badly damaged place.'' When he returned
to England, he was so concerned that he joined Amnesty
International.
Born in Hampshire, Firth spent some of his youth in Nigeria and St.
Louis before returning to England, where he joined the National
Youth Theatre and moved on to the Drama Centre. After playing the
lead character, Guy Bennett, in the London stage production of
``Another Country,'' Firth made his movie debut playing Guy's
communist friend, Judd, in the 1984 film version.
``I still get the bulk of my fan mail because of that picture, especially
from Japan, where there's a cult for it,'' he said. Firth has also
starred in the excellent ``A Month in the Country,'' the best-forgotten
1984 American TV remake of ``Camille,'' and several British
television series, including ``The Lost Empires,'' which was shown
here on Masterpiece Theatre.
He's just finished another picture, ``Wings of Fame,'' in which he
plays the assassin of a movie star played by Peter O'Toole. Most of
the picture takes place in the afterlife, at a posh hotel that houses
only celebrities who are still famous. Firth ends up there only
because he's famous for killing a movie star.
``I begged them to put me in that movie,'' he said. ``I'd never seen a
script like it. There are no real effects, no `Beetlejuice' makeup, and
it's much murkier and less obvious than that picture. But I think it's
quite extraordinary.
``I don't know what to do next,'' said Firth, who was so bored with
``The Lost Empires'' that he dropped out of acting for a few months
after he'd finished it. ``I really need to stop. I'm always working on
the next picture even if I'm not actually shooting it. I have to find out if
there is a life between movies.''
~KarenR
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (16:19)
#686
To many moviegoers, Malkovich was the chief problem with last year's version
Hmmm, I thought everyone considered Malkovich's performance wonderful. Oh, I see he said moviegoers, not critics. ;-)
(CF) you should leave the theater with questions about Valmont's true
feelings.
Haven't we argued this one numerous times?
(CF on WoF) "I begged them to put me in that movie," he said. "I'd never seen a script like it. There are no real effects, no `Beetlejuice' makeup, and
it's much murkier and less obvious than that picture. But I think it's
quite extraordinary.
Don't we know that? ;-)
"I really need to stop. I'm always working on the next picture even if I'm not actually shooting it. I have to find out if there is a life between movies."
He has.
~KarenR
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (16:20)
#687
Thanks, Mari, for posting the article from Lisa. Loved it.
~KateDF
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (17:17)
#688
CF on WoF)``I begged them to put me in that movie,'' he said. ``I'd never seen a
script like it. There are no real effects, no `Beetlejuice' makeup, and
it's much murkier and less obvious than that picture. But I think it's
quite extraordinary.
VERY extraordinary! I enjoyed our discussion of WoF. I wish we could ask Colin about some of the interpretations we kicked around. Thanks for finding that article, Mari. I loved his comment about "life between movies."
So, OK, Colin, you've had some "in between" life. Now, tell us what you're doing NEXT!!!!!!!!
~EileenG
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (17:59)
#689
Thanks, Lisa and Mari. I love reading new comments about old projects.
Firth based his characterization on a couple of people he knows
He's used this several times, most recently about Mark Darcy.
He thinks the character's speech patterns ``come out of constipation''
Heehee! Am sure Moon will enjoy that. ;-)
"I really need to stop. I'm always working on the next picture even if I'm not actually shooting it. I have to find out if there is a life between movies."
(Karen) He has.
And how!
~lafn
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (18:51)
#690
Thank you Mari and Lisa.I don't think we had those quotes when we discussed those films. Too bad the interviewer didn't think to ask him to decipher the mystery of Bianca;-:
(CF interview)"`Our emphasis is not on overtly decadent behavior' "
Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-)
~KarenR
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (19:13)
#691
Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-)
Through today's eyes. Cecile was getting married to the much-older (than Valmont) Gercourt a short while.
~Becka
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (20:38)
#692
This is from the E!Online site, Marilyn Beck's column. I was waiting for this..
As Jack Frost, I wish he would nip at my nose....;-P
Dear Marilyn: What can you tell me about Colin Firth? Is he married? Any new projects coming up?
Jessica, Boston
Dear Jessica: The six-foot-one, 40-year-old actor hails from Hampshire, England, and is married to Livia Giuggioli, a production assistant he met in 1996 on the set of the BBC drama Nostromo. They have a son, Luca, born in March. (He has another son, William, 10, with actress Meg Tilly).
Firth's passion for drama started early. As a kid, he played Jack Frost in a Christmas pantomime. He joined a drama workshop at age 10 and, by 14, had decided on acting as a profession.
In 1980, he was accepted at London's prestigious Drama Centre, where a casting agent caught him in a production of Hamlet and recommended him as a replacement for Rupert Everett in the Queen's Theatre production of Another Country. Firth went on to star in the 1984 film version and hasn't stopped working since.
His films include The English Patient, Valmont, Shakespeare in Love and Bridget Jones's Diary. The Mark Darcy character he plays in the latter film was inspired by Firth's turn as the dashing Mr. Darcy in the popular BBC miniseries Pride and Prejudice.
His latest project is a big-screen version of The Importance of Being Earnest, with Rupert Everett, Judi Dench and Reese Witherspoon.
~lafn
Fri, Aug 17, 2001 (20:59)
#693
(E)Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-)
(Karen)Through today's eyes. Cecile was getting married to the much-older (than Valmont) Gercourt a short while.
The *former* was pervy....the latter was disgusting.
Cecile and Danceny was "mainstream";-)
~KateDF
Sat, Aug 18, 2001 (02:19)
#694
(Marilyn Beck)As a kid, he played Jack Frost in a Christmas pantomime.
Perhaps that's where he got the snowman tie??????????????????
Becka, I wish you hadn't made that remark about Jack Frost nippin' at your nose. Now I'll have that Christmas Song stuck in my head for a week.
~Ann
Sat, Aug 18, 2001 (06:25)
#695
Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-)
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And that scene was even edited from the original theatrical release. Bravo altered that scene too when they showed it, but AMC's alterations were more subtle.
~lafn
Sat, Aug 18, 2001 (14:41)
#696
(E)Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-)
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(Ann)And that scene was even edited from the original theatrical release.
You mean there's *more* than what was on the video?Like TA vs. THOTP?
WOW.
BTW, the scene was consensual ( not exactly a rape).I'm not a big prude here...hey, I'm the guy lighting candles that they next film he makes is "R" rated;-)
~KateDF
Sat, Aug 18, 2001 (16:23)
#697
(Evelyn)I'm the guy lighting candles that they next film he makes is "R" rated;-)
Lighting candles for an R-rated movie? I can sense the fierce Sister Margaret (Sunday School teacher) turning over in her grave!!!!
Ann, as you appear to be our resident expert on *that* scene in Valmont, did Bravo and AMC show less than the tape does?
~Ann
Sat, Aug 18, 2001 (17:22)
#698
You mean there's *more* than what was on the video?
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Both AMC and Bravo altered that scene (differently). As far as I know the commercial tape is the original version.
I'm one of the very few people who saw V in a theater when it first came out, and only saw the icky DL a couple years ago on tape.
~lafn
Sat, Aug 18, 2001 (18:07)
#699
(Evelyn)I'm the guy lighting candles that they next film he makes is "R" rated;-)
Lighting candles for an R-rated movie? I can sense the fierce Sister Margaret (Sunday School teacher) turning over in her grave!!!!
*blowing out candles* In deference to the good Sister;-)
How about joss sticks;-)
And I don't mean Londinium...although any film about ED is bound to be;-)
I hear that Cinemax is running an ad on
Londinium.As part of a Max Binder (pardon the expression)series? Anybody see it?
~KarenR
Sun, Aug 19, 2001 (13:33)
#700
OK, Teenage Fanclub may not be performing, but I'd say it had possibilities...
Stars line up for asylum seeker concert
Top actors are teaming up with musicians from the world of classical music for a concert supporting asylum seekers and refugees.
Emma Thompson and Michael Palin will take part in the event at London's Royal Festival Hall on November 19. The stars of Truly, Madly, Deeply - Alan Rickman and Juliet Stevenson - will also be reunited for the night.
The concert was put forward by human rights charities the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture and the Prisoners of Conscience Appeals Fund.
Ms Stevenson is directing a segment of the gala, while the second half will feature the London premiere of a choral work by composer Richard Blackford. Bournemouth Symphony Chorus commissioned the work and will perform accompanied by a 20-piece ensemble from Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra, including soloists Robert Tear and Paul Whelan.
Others taking part include actress Fiona Shaw, comedian Jeremy Hardy and poet Tony Harrison.