(Karen) This is the same as the new P&P production we've been hearing rumours about ;_D Goodbye money-losing costume dramas and literary adaptations... Don't laugh those teeny movies pay for all the Brit losers. He never lifted a finger for Iris either despite the Oscar noms. IMO he figures he gonna lose $$$ right from the beginning.

I see our little Legos made a return visit. Which one is Darcy? ;-D (Evelyn) Don't laugh those teeny movies pay for all the Brit losers. But it appears they're not going to do those Brit losers anymore.

(Linda) I'm going for #11 tonight. I fear it will be gone tomorrow-for good. I just returned from #5. Actually paid for what I intended to see, Sunshine State, but noticed the summary and ad for TIOBE that had been posted on the Current Features bulletin board lying on the counter, just as I paid, and was informed tonight was the last night. After noting SS was quite full (as I was almost late), the decision of what to see was made for me. No twistin' my arm though ;-). A friend who I took to it last week loved it and said last night she wanted to go again..oh well. Linda, I can't imagine all the finer details that come alive after seeing it so many times. I was getting quite detailed in my observations and I'm sure I missed some. I got to the point tonight of noting Colin's hair (in a close-up from overhead), while dyed darker, appeared to have highlights in them. Couldn't decide if it was done deliberately or some of his hair didn't hold the dye.

(Dorine)I got to the point tonight of noting Colin's hair (in a close-up from overhead), while dyed darker, appeared to have highlights in them. Couldn't decide if it was done deliberately or some of his hair didn't hold the dye I have noticed that too-especially in the outdoor scenes with natural light. You are right, Dorine, I have especially enjoyed catching new things each time I see it. BTW, v. wise choice tonight on your part. I was not feeling so bad last week, because I was counting down the days to HS-but now it looks like it will be later rather than sooner.*sighing heavily* Just have to be content with the fan fiction. v. steamy indeed.

(Dorine)Couldn't decide if it was done deliberately or some of his hair didn't hold the dye. I thought those were the parts where the roots didn't hold the hair. ;-D I also went today in case it is the last day on the big screen. (Didn't have the heart to ask.) Before going to see the movie, three friends came for a very EARNEST tea complete with: cucumber sandwiches, tea cake and muffins. We had a great time. Hope to do more of them when I get the video.

(Caribou) Before going to see the movie, three friends came for a very EARNEST tea complete with: cucumber sandwiches, tea cake and muffins. We had a great time. Hope to do more of them when I get the video. You found cucumbers...even for ready money? Yeah! LOL That sounds like fun actually. I will do that with my friend who didn't get to see it again. She's Jamaican, not sure if they do tea, but with the British influence, it won't be a foreign concept to her.

Went to see TIOBE for the last time tonight as it's leaving my area theater and I can't find it listed anywhere around me starting tomorrow so I guess this is it for the film. Too bad as I really enjoyed the boost seeing him larger than my TV screen gave me. Well onward to HS and Gidget Goes to London.

My Husband, of all people, was looking at a site that I had never heard of before. Of course, this is nothing new, as I am pretty much clueless to most sites out there. But, this one is about mistakes in film and television. http://www.nitpickers.com/ So, is this a site that everyone knows about but me???? :))))) I looked up BJD and found some comments. Nothing on TIOBE and I stopped with that one.

Well, I have finally decided to unlurk myself onto an unsuspecting audience! Was delighted to see that TIOBE has now doubled the number of theatres, from 2 to 4, in our area so I have a much better chance of seeing it again. I managed to convince DH to take me into town to see it a couple of weeks ago because none of my lady friends was interested (I apologize to one and all for my poor taste in friends) Now, if DH would only go fishing or off to a classic car show, I could steal away to see TIOBE again without having to create some remarkably clever subterfuge! I want to thank whoever it was who posted the note that Fever Pitch was playing on Showcase here in Canada last week. I managed to tape it and have watched it several times since. I was slow to warm up to it at first, but with additional viewings, I've become quite enamoured.

Welcome Sandyw Don't give up on your friends...More than one convert has been made by this board. Glad you decided to join us online.Check on 158 film discussions. We're about to start one soon and we want you to join us. (Lisa)I looked up BJD and found some comments. LOL. Thanks.I never saw that website. BJD has 17 errors. The diary store at the end is true...I've been there. It is a jewelry store. The snow snafus the boss caught first time we saw it at the premiere.

Welcome Sandy!!! gee, I hope I did that right.. lol.. thanks for delurking yourself, m'dear! (handing Sandy "drooly bib")

Welcome, Sandy! Now, if DH would only go fishing or off to a classic car show, I could steal away to see TIOBE again without having to create some remarkably clever subterfuge! One suggestion that was made to me in similar circumstances was the non-specific shopping trip. You know, "I need to go out and run a bunch of errands and get some things." Then come home with a few groceries.

Welcome Sandy

(Rik)One suggestion that was made to me in similar circumstances was the non-specific shopping trip. You know, "I need to go out and run a bunch of errands and get some things." Then come home with a few groceries. I made that suggestion to you, Rika. Did it work? I don't even bother trying to explain anymore. ******************WELCOME SANDY******************** I was afraid to ask at the theater last night if Earnest would still be around. So I waited for the paper this morning and, YES, it has survived another week. Looks like a dozen for me.

(Linda) I made that suggestion to you, Rika. Did it work? I don't even bother trying to explain anymore. After you gave me that suggestion, I realized I had an even better option available at the moment. Because of the nature of my job, my schedule is extremely flexible during the summer - no fixed work hours, in fact. It's very easy to duck out of my office for part of the afternoon and head for the theater. But this fall when I need to be in the office a little more regularly, I may adopt your plan so I can see HS an appropriate number of times. I was afraid to ask at the theater last night if Earnest would still be around. So I waited for the paper this morning and, YES, it has survived another week. Looks like a dozen for me. We're getting it for at least another week here in DC too, so I suppose I'm going to have to go again. I'm really starting to get bored with the Algy/Cecily scenes, but a Firthette's gotta do what a Firthette's gotta do!

(Caribou)Before going to see the movie, three friends came for a very EARNEST tea complete with: cucumber sandwiches, tea cake and muffins. We had a great time. Hope to do more of them when I get the video. What a great idea to get you in an 'Earnest' mood! Wot? No bread and butter ;-)? You are making cucumber sandwiches, tea cakes, and muffins be seen in the best houses lately ;-)! I just marvel at how often CF discussion seems to trickle and wander onto other topics so naturally ;-)! I had to check a couple of times what thread I was on ;-D. Please forgive us for being firthilous, Karen ;-). Welcome, Sandyw to all-things-Firth!

Sandy W!!! Glad to see you've delurked now. Didn't take you long at all. Listen up to these ladies. They'll have you skulking about in a trenchcoat, going from theater to theater, supporting whatever CF movie is playing in no time. ;-D (SandyW) I apologize to one and all for my poor taste in friends Apology accept. Hopefully, they have some other laudable attibutes to make up for such severe character flaws. Remember, you can pick your friends, but not your relatives. ;-D (Lisa) So, is this a site that everyone knows about but me???? :))))) There's another one, might be called 'moviemistakes' that's very popular. I'm pretty sure it pointed out Bridget change from fishnet hosiery (tarts & vicars party) to regular when she got to Daniel's place. ;-D (Rika) but a Firthette's gotta do what a Firthette's gotta do! Didn't I just read something similar to this a little while ago? ;-D

(Karen) Glad to see you've delurked now. Didn't take you long at all. Listen up to these ladies. They'll have you skulking about in a trenchcoat, going from theater to theater, supporting whatever CF movie is playing in no time. ;-D It's much too warm for a trenchcoat just now. But dark glasses and a baseball cap do the job nicely, and are cool and stylish for those hot summer months! (Rika) but a Firthette's gotta do what a Firthette's gotta do! (Karen) Didn't I just read something similar to this a little while ago? ;-D No doubt - I'm sure it's a very popular saying in these parts. There's another one, might be called 'moviemistakes' that's very popular. I'm pretty sure it pointed out Bridget change from fishnet hosiery (tarts & vicars party) to regular when she got to Daniel's place. ;-D That was also on the Nitpick site. What I love is when the nitpickers get it wrong. Anybody can make a mistake, but if you're going to pick on the mistakes of others it's a good idea to check your own facts! For example, somebody complained about a problem with an inside-out suit jacket sleeve after the fight in BJD.... except the complainer said it was Daniel who strode off, continuity-challenged jacket slung over his shoulder. Reminds me of a review of the BJD DVD that helpfully informed its readers that CF had played Daniel Cleaver in the P&P miniseries, which the reviewer thought made him an odd choice to play Mark Darcy in BJD, but "the casting seems to have worked out fine." Yeah, thanks for clearing that up. Well, I'm off to the market with ready money - ever since SandyW mentioned the cucumber sandwiches, I've quite craved some.

Oh my gosh! My family is gone for the weekend.. hmmmmm... think it's about time to put in my teeth and visit West Nashville, again. =D Gee, with them being completely out of the house, I could go for double.. mmmmm... double.. dimples... I mean, double. So, just to be kind to my inquisitive nature, can you ladies tell me where you're from? Some I've figured out by the posts, others I haven't a clue about. I'm so jealous of you Ozy women.. I wish I lived close enough to have coffee with someone who shares my affliction. (laughing)

Jeanie, what a shame Nashville and Washington aren't closer together! DH is out of town as well - we could have had our own CF film festival!

Hey Jeanie, I'm jealous of the Ozy women too as I cannot go into Sydney today and join them for lunch and CF!!!!!! :( Welcome Sandy W. :)))) Keeping fingers crossed that TIOBE will be migrating here. After all, Gosford Park is still in more than one theatre in my area, thanks no doubt to the Blue Hair Contingient that must still be flocking in to see it. Am going to check on the screen status now..................

I am just throwing this in here......Friday afternoon "Road to Perdition" (sp?) was available for sale from your friendly Chinatown table top.(No sign of TIOBE).

The Road to Perdition is a classic. Will sit in the annals of great films right along Godfather. Beautifully crafted.Superb acting; Stanley Tucci and a minute with Cirian Hinds solid stuff.Jude Law as a demonic killer. Ugly? Mygod, not many actors would trade pretty boy for this look .Doesn't have many lines...but those piercing eyes says it all.As the NY Times said"not without gore, but it chooses its bloodiest moments with exquisite care." A cinematic wonder; Sam Mendes is a genius *and* he was damn lucky to find that kid.

Welcome Sandy W! Jeannie: I'm from France but I live in Alaska where the theaters are clueless and will not bring TIOBE. Grrr! Which brings me to my next point: those in the LA area, which are the area codes of the theaters that play/played TIOBE? I'm going there at the end of next week and the NY/DC folks are giving me hope that it may still be playing around LA but I have no clue about the different area codes to do a search (the one I'll be in never showed TIOBE as available)

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! Just got back from TIOBE, my second viewing. DH went off to watch a soccer game (or football match, as it were) so seized my opportunity to indulge myself. As if having rented MLSF, RV and COF for the weekend were not enough! DH is completely mystified. TIOBE opened this week at a small theatre nearby. Perhaps due to the strike at both our local newspapers, the word had definitely not been spread far and wide. There were perhaps a dozen of us in the theatre; a 30ish couple, three unescorted women of a certain age (35 no doubt), a 50ish couple, and strangely, a teenaged girl with two teenaged fellows no less. Very eclectic mix but, from the shared laughter, we were of one mind. I must confess I adore ODB at his most mischievous. His expression in the mirror while escaping on the train to London captured me from the outset. Similarly with the wink to Cecily while refusing his permission for her to marry until she became 35. Loved RV for the same reason. Cannot for the life of me understand why he took the role in COF. There was nothing to the character - must have been for the money.

Evelyn Happy Belated Birthday

OMG, gulping in abject horror!!!

*sniff* Can't even post my annual Annie tribute, as is too late. :-( A very belated Happy Birthday Evelyn!!

How did the Drool Oracle miss THIS birthday.... Happy Birthday, Ev! I hope you had a very lovely day. Sorry, Ev, with the few minutes I have up my sleeve, I preferred to send you your bday wish rather than practise on my html skills. You'll get your bday drawings from me as soon as I come up for air again! Enjoy!

I'm blaming Moon for not sending out the party invites I knew about it and was all ready. I hate no-shows!

EVELYN "let's celebrate with some Indian food, but PLEASE, no candles on the birthday cake!" Hope your day was great!!!!!!!

Thank you all...Hey...better today than never, I say. 'sides....You know what the 13th was?.....Anniversary of Black Day.... Day YKW bolted from "Hamlet"leaving me with a fistful of tickets. Grrr. Thanks Sue, who called... Moon who ducked into a cyber-cafe in Italy to send me a greeting. Eileen who sent a hilarious card. Karen...you know Rafe is one of my faves...Lovely to have him here. Paul Ashford, the party animal..."But please, Paul...watch the napkin near the candle, next time". Thanks Mink and Lisa (I love mangoes too;-))... Chapt 17 would be a nice gift too, Lisa..*hint*, hint*

Ok Evelyn, because it's your Birthday, here are the requested mangoes..... Wait a minute, you didn't mean that kind of mangoes, you meant these....... Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!! And I promise no more images today!!!!

Happy Birthday Evelyn. the 13th is my mother's and harrison's too so...... Hope you had a good one (sorry about your bad Hamlet memory!).

Happy Birthday Evelyn! Today is also Rembrandt's birthday. And on this day in 1965, Joan Rivers married Edgar Rosenberg. And Iris Murdoch was born on this day.

Happy Belated Birthday Evelyn!! Hope you had a wonderful day! *big hug*

What's on Harrison's head???...never mind. Amy thanks a lot. He's a fave too. Look at that smile.Thanks. Liiiiisa...Yummy mangoes (slurp) and chutney too ;-))

Evelyn--Plain, but sincere belated wishes for a very Happy Birthday. This is good, though, to string it out!

Happy Belated Birthday, Evelyn. Hope you had a wonderful day and best wishes for a great year ahead. I hope you are enjoying the images as much as all of us!

Odile: those in the LA area, which are the area codes of the theaters that play/played TIOBE? It's playing in 3 theaters around L.A. ... http://alliance.zap2it.com/custom/latimes/main_template/0,1442,90012_20_4_28556,00.html

Evelyn, Had they only told me sooner of your birthday, I wouldn't have had to arrive on foot!! ----- Incidentally, is there a birthday list available anywhere?

(Sandy) I must confess I adore ODB at his most mischievous. His expression in the mirror while escaping on the train to London captured me from the outset. Isn't that divine? I like him best in the London segments. He gets more of those devilish moments than he does later on, and he heaven knows he wears formal clothes well! Hmmm.... I feel another visit to the theater coming on.

Rika -i think Marcia had one at one point. But that would be at least a couple of years old. All the newbies wouldnt be on it. Maybe we should start a new one. Any one want to be Birthday List Queen???

(EsBee) Any one want to be Birthday List Queen??? If one is needed I'll volunteer, but if it's better to have it in the hands of someone who has been around longer (or if it is a hereditary title ;-D) that's fine too.

Terry, I'm not as old as Rembrandt or as obnoxious as Joan Ribers...but thanks for remembering.. Esbee, Linda, Meredith ,Rika...*Hugs* for remembering. You're right Meredith...why have your birthday only one day...string it out for days later. Rika the "On Foot" is one of my favorite scenes and that smile is the "blue soup" smile for sure. Thanks guys...all of you....

Rika - i think the birtday list was kept by the KeepSake Mistress- along with all the other lists. Karen do you want to subdivide the responsiblities??? Anyone have an opinon on this?

Happy Birthday! Evelyn, hope you had a great day and that the coming year is one of your best. :-)The ever-late Caribou is in good company this time. :-)

Late or not...thank you Caribou.Nice to be remembered. And I forgot to say thanks to Heidi for her greeting & who is off to UK to meet up with some Firthettes. Wish I could be with you all. Fond rememberances of 3 DOR '99. Be on the look out for the debutante's dad ;-))

Evelyn, More belated Birthday wishes from another somewhat new newbie. I'm an infrequent de-lurker. That's because by the time I get on-line, see where the posts are headed and come up with an absolutely witty, on-point comment I read further and find out it's already been co-opted, usually with much more [insert word I can't put my finger on] than I couls manage. However, the birthday wishes, though belated, are heartfelt. I like the idea of a birthday list. I also wondered if we have a general geographical list. From the posts I can sometimes tell where people are from, but I think it would be great to have a better idea... could make group viewings of future CF projects a possibility for those of us whose friends and family just don't quite get it.

I'm late! I'm late!.................to give a very important B-day greeting! Happy Birthday, Evelyn! (a boring, non-illustrated greeting, but heartfelt nonetheless ;-))

Hello everyone. I've been lurking about for a long time now and I've decided to de-lurk to say Happy Birthday to Evelyn. I don't know any fun web-tricks either, but maybe by next year I'll be able to present a more drool-worthy present to her. and I agree that Ch.17 of UMS would be a great present for her (I love birthdays with presents for everyone!) :-D

Ah, another 13th-person. Happy birthday, Evelyn. You are blessed with outstanding taste, in more ways than one. ;)

Happy Birthday Evelyn to a fellow Cancer, a good sign to be! (but I am biased)

From 162 (Karen re AG): Colin's character is a politician who gives up his seat to run for election in the House of Commmons. I expect this means that he gives up his title to run for election to a seat in the House of Commons. There is the alternative that he could give up his seat in the Commons to become a Lord, but that's a bit unlikely, being a complicated procedure and not involving any hereditary aristocracy. The other meaning "seat" could have is his country estate, but I don't see any likely reason for him to give that up. I brought this here as I do not want to start an OT discussion on British constitution over there, and so that I could wish Evelyn belated good tidings.

Is it necessary to give up the title? (she ask ignorantly even though it does make sense)

Whoopee...all the greetings makes me Happy, Happy... In this impersonal world...there are no boring greetings, folks. Love to hear from my fellow Firthettes. KathyC. , ElizabethS, Dorine, EmmaB, thanks for thinking of me. AND ...ta rah....now we have Megs on board now. MEGS Thanks for the greeting and delurking. How about that? I plan to lord this over everyone. How many birthdays bring out a lurker:-)) And it wouldn't be the same without Burbery Man. Thank you Mark... Great idea about a geographical list. I'll be happy to be the keeper of that one. Wadda ya say boss?

Megs!! Good to see you've delurked. You can't go back now. It is habit-forming. :) If anyone would like to compile lists, be my guest. You don't need permission from me.

Karen: Is it necessary to give up the title? Yup, being the House of Commons, you have to be a commoner (not a lord) to get into it. Though you could hold high office from the House of Lords, it's just not thought fair ... blah blah blah

What about the honorary--not hereditary--titles? Not applicable?

Welcome Megs; and almost shamelessly, I'll add my name to the late well-wishers for Evelyn's special day: happy belated birthday (with the 3-day extension it must have been quite the labor for your mommy :) ) Thank you so much MarianneC for the LA times site about the TIOBE showings. It made my day: I taught me to hope as I had scarcely allowed myself to hope before... that I might see TIOBE in a theater! Thanks a bunch!

Welcome Megs!!! It's great to have you here!

But you get to take your title back after your stint in the HOC -correct? it's not a give up forever? And where does the PM fit into this? Is he the head of the both Houses or just the HOC? -i know i learned this in College (took a History of England Class and everything) but ten years on, it's beginning to go fuzzy....

Happy VERY belated birthday, Evelyn! Hope it was wonderful. Mark, thanks for clearing up the title/seat thing. I knew something was wrong with the original statement, but I couldn't figure it out (and was too lazy to think about it). Wasn't there a famous MP who refused a title because it would have meant he/she couldn't be in Commons?

Thank you for your Alaska greeting Odile. Would you mind sending some of that Artic stuff down to your SW cousins who are sweltering? Have a great time in LA viewing TIOBE. Seeing ODB on the big screen is always a treat...even SLOW looked good. Kate ...all birthday wishes are appreciated.Nice to be remembered anytime. *Big smooch*

Evelyn, so sorry to have missed your birthday! Hope I am not too late for the celebration. Hope you had a very happy birthday and are having a very happy extension of it! Just wanted to send these birthday wishes before I was really late. Will now go looking for an appropriate pic and hope my limited html skills will not fail me yet again. Happy birthday week, Evelyn!

Evelyn, again happy birthday! Hope I don't do this too 'Quick-ly' & 'Pannick' afterwards ;-): I heard drool was late celebrating Evelyn's birthday. Well, I have a new service that will never be late and put in all the stops for a happy day! And I will personally pick her up, too! Happy belated birthday, Evelyn!

ROTF.Quick and Pannick to the rescue!! Brilliant, Lora. That cutie-patootie could scoop me up any time.*sigh*. Thanks:-))

Kathy C and Megs Welcome and stick around to enjoy the party.

Ya mean the parTEE's over? Nevah! From one famous blonde to another... Happy Birhhhhthday, Mr. Presi...I mean Evelyn, happy birhhhhthday to YEEEWWWW!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY EVELYN AND MANY MANY MORE!!!!!!! WELCOME KATHY C AND MEG. IT'S SO MUCH FUN HERE. YOU'LL REALLY HAVE A GOOD TIME. ALL THE PARTICIPANTS ARE WONDERFUL!

Kate: Wasn't there a famous MP who refused a title because it would have meant he/she couldn't be in Commons? I think it's actually happened a few times. The titles that get offered are non-hereditary (life peerages), and often go to older politicians after years of service. This allows them to transfer from the Commons to the Lords where they have less influence (but still some), and don't still have to run for a seat, and kiss up to the party leader etc. Can one resume a hereditary title after giving it up? Hmm, I thought not, but I'm not really sure.

Hey...this birthday goes on. Who needs it on the right day? Mobetta belated:-)) From one blonde to another....Thanks Eileen . Wish I had her bod. Pam thanks for thinking of me.

Re MP giving up title. - Recently retired Labour MP Tony Benn gave up his hereditary title (in the 1950's, I think) in order to be able to be elected to the House of Commons.

On a completely different topic, I have to admit I have a bone to pick with ODB. I have been perusing the archived articles and interviews at The Bucket, and frequently saw writers refer to his time living in Canada as "the backwoods of British Columbia" or "the wilds of Canada". And now I see an article quoting ODB himself in which he refers to it as "serious wilderness" "in the middle of nowhere" and citing the dangers of grizzly bears and the inability to go for walk in safety!! Give me a break!!! You would think we are hardly out of sod huts and buckskins! Granted, there is wilderness to be found if you go looking hard enough for it. But really, grizzly bears being a danger on a 20 minute walk?! I had to drive three days north (on paved roads, not cart paths) towards the Yukon and Alaska before seeing my first grizzlies and I've lived in Vancouver and the surrounding area for more than 25 years! Aparently he lived "3 hours inland" from Vancouver. Seeing as I am more than an hour inland and still live in the suburbs, I'd really like to know what he considers wilderness! (More than a block to the nearest Starbucks!) Come on CF. Set the record straight and apologize for besmirching one of the most beautiful, and safest, places on earth to live. Now I will get off my soapbox and resume kicking myself for not having come to appreciate his fine work (and other qualities) until a few months ago LONG AFTER HE FINISHED SHOOTING HS HERE! Ouch.

(Sandy) Apparently he lived "3 hours inland" from Vancouver. Seeing as I am more than an hour inland and still live in the suburbs, I'd really like to know what he considers wilderness! (More than a block to the nearest Starbucks!) LOL. ODB is prone to exaggerate occasionally;-) I've been to Winchester and it's not exactly the boonies.An elegant city with a world renowned cathedral. The folks from St. Louis didn't fare out too well either:-)

Was what, though, 10-12 years ago? The suburbs might have expanded considerably since then. But I've always smelled a touch of cabin fever in those statements anyway, and it does provide a polite way to avoid discussing more personal reasons why the situation might have ended. It's a tasteful excuse, so I'm willing to give him a pass on this one and call it more of the usual obfuscatory dissembling. Not nice to slam the ex-es, especially where children are involved. All the bear business does is make me wonder if someone had a habit of carelessness in securing the cans after taking out the garbage. ;)

One thing we do know for certain, he was fully functional in his wildness days!!!!!! :)

Now, that might have been a Freudian slip.......

(Elizabeth)But I've always smelled a touch of cabin fever in those statements anyway, and it does provide a polite way to avoid discussing more personal reasons why the situation might have ended. I agree, I always thought the comments about bears, etc. were tongue-in-cheek. His humor can be so absolutely dead-pan that one can mistake it for a serious comment. (you can't see that flash of dimples in a print interview) I think the feelings of isolation were real, however, and more than geographic. He was far from work, and I think that was more of a problem for him than for Meg. Also, didn't he once make a remark about being "essentially English" and that being away from London was part of the problem for him? (I often think about that remark when the comments about LD's domination of him. SHE has given up living in her native country for him, so both sides make concessions. I know they visit a lot, but that isn't living there.) Also recall his recent remark about the house and the family and "having it all in place." Ev, did he really refer to Winchester as the "boonies"? It most certainly is not boonies. It even has a Cafe Rouge. And do you think choosing to work at the Donmar was predicated on the presence of a Starbucks in the building? ;-)

The Emmy nominations were announced this a.m. The list is way too long, but in the non-series categories we have: Miniseries Band Of Brothers � HBO Dinotopia � ABC The Mists Of Avalon � TNT Shackleton � A&E Made For Television Movie Dinner With Friends � HBO The Gathering Storm � HBO James Dean � TNT The Laramie Project � HBO Path To War � HBO Lead Actor In A Miniseries Or A Movie Albert Finney as Winston Churchill (The Gathering Storm � HBO) James Franco as James Dean (James Dean � TNT) Sir Michael Gambon as Lyndon B. Johnson (Path To War � HBO) Kenneth Branagh as Ernest Shackleton (Shackleton � A&E) Beau Bridges as Michael Mulvaney (We Were The Mulvaneys � Lifetime) Lead Actress In A Miniseries Or A Movie Vanessa Redgrave as Clementine Churchill (The Gathering Storm � HBO) Angela Bassett as Rosa Parks (The Rosa Parks Story � CBS) Blythe Danner as Corinne Mulvaney (We Were The Mulvaneys � Lifetime) Laura Linney as Iris Bravard (Wild Iris � Showtime) Gena Rowlands as Minnie Brinn (Wild Iris � Showtime) Supporting Actor In A Miniseries Or A Movie Jim Broadbent as Desmond Morton (The Gathering Storm � HBO) Michael Moriarty as Winton Dean (James Dean � TNT) Alec Baldwin as Robert McNamara (Path To War � HBO) Don Cheadle as Chuck (Things Behind The Sun � Showtime) Jon Voight as Major-General Jurgen Stroop (Uprising � NBC) Supporting Actress In A Miniseries Or A Movie Sissy Spacek as Zelda Fitzgerald (Last Call � Showtime) Stockard Channing as Judy Shepard (The Matthew Shepard Story � NBC) Joan Allen as Morgause (The Mists Of Avalon � TNT) Anjelica Huston as Viviane (The Mists Of Avalon � TNT) Dame Diana Rigg as Lehzen (Victoria And Albert � A&E)

I thought Victoria and Albert should have been listed. Though all of the mini-series were excellent. Glad to see that Showtime and TNT are inching along the original movie path.Though HBO has 4 out of 5 noms in this category. Maybe Armadillo (Aug 3) will show up next year for A&E;-)they're falling behind. And poor PBS..they don't seem to have a chance against the big boys of cable. Thanks Karen.Wonder if KB will win again.I didn't think Gambon or Finney were *that *good.

Emma, I am reposting your message above on 162 because this could possibly be relevant to CF.

Hi Everyone: Evelyn is the Armadillo on A&E August 3 the one with Colin in it? Forgive my ignorance but I saw it as one of his productions but didn't know anything about it. Thank you. I hope KB wins again too. I think he deserves it. Fine actor.

(Pam) Evelyn is the Armadillo on A&E August 3 the one with Colin in it? Forgive my ignorance but I saw it as one of his productions but didn't know anything about it. No. It was hotly rumored that he was going to star in Armadillo, but it never came to fruition. There was another rumor that he bolted to take Conspiracy. But we all read the book and the boss even had a page in the making. James Frain is in the starring role of Lorimer Black.Directed by Howard Davies (recently directly Noel Coward's Private Lives on B'way and West End. With awards. Quite a cast. Catherine Mc Cormack, Stephen Rea, Hugh Bonneville, Neil Pearson, Produced by Sue Birtwistle and Script editor Susie Conklin (both from P&P). You can see it had CF written all over it. Great story by Wm Boyd. We all enjoyed it.Got good reviews in UK. Eagerly anticipating the viewing on A&E. ~~~~~~~~~~ I'm gonna quit getting the books that he is rumored to do. Just finished the Sylvia Plath/Ted Hughes story :-((( Bummer. We were banking on that one for the fall.

If you wonder why MB has a show on HBO and why HBO renewed that dreck for another season, the answer is contained in this article: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=855&ncid=579&e=9&u=/variety/20020719/en_variety/television_albrecht_dc_4 fourth from the last paragraph.

So you think Albrecht was MB's agent at ICM? AS a professional comic one would think he could be more discriminating . Interesting article.

Very likely. He was "in" with that group (Carrey and the Wayans) and directed the Wayans in an earlier film. They're buddies. MB has mentioned CA's name before in articles as the one who encouraged the project.

Who is MB?

(Karen) HBO renewed that dreck for another season Yuck, I didn't know they did. I tried to watch it last year and couldn't make it through a whole episode. I didn't know about any of his other stuff then either. (Sandy) Who is MB? Mike Binder. If you go to imdb.com and type in his name, you get a pic and a bio.

Sorry to be so late with the Happy Birthday, Evelyn. I hope it was a great one.

Thank you, Lucie Longest celebration, I've ever had. Hey...bring on Belated Birthdays!!

(Evelyn)I'm gonna quit getting the books that he is rumored to do. I already did. I really could see him in Armadillo, and I was so disappointed that he didn't get it, I decided to delay my book-buying impulses. Just got a letter from my [elderly] cousin in England. She told me that P&P had been rebroadcast recently. She has no idea how much time I spend on line or what I do when I'm there/here...

Hi Everyone, Kids are all gone for the day, chores done and I am all alone. Well not really, have a CF marathon going. So far Playmaker, for obvious reasons, Apartment Zero, for excellent acting, RV and now FP and will keep going until he or I can't go on any longer. Now going back to heaven.

Pam, that sounds like a lovely way to spend the day! Do give my best to ODB. I have a question about PAL vs. NTSC videotapes. I've heard that some US VCR's can play either format. Does anyone know how widespread that capability is? I have a tape whose cover leaflet says it is in PAL format, but I can play it on both of my VCR's, and the manuals for the VCR's don't mention the ability to play PAL tapes, so I'm skeptical.

Re NTSC vs. PAL videotapes. In the UK I believe all relatively new VCRs are able to play both formats. I would assume this also applies in the US. I have never had any problem playing NTSC format tapes bought from the US. (Many of DB's older movies are no longer available in the UK). DVDs are another story. My new player will not play Region 1, although more expensive Multi-region players are available. I wish I'd known that a few months ago, since there are far more titles available from the US.

(FanPam) So far Playmaker, for obvious reasons LOL You want company? Whatta way to spend the day (wondering where I can absolutely convince DH and son they need to be...?)

(Rika) I've heard that some US VCR's can play either format. Does anyone know how widespread that capability is? Very limited. You have to go to special stores to buy multiformat VCRs. You won't find them at Best Buy or Circuit City. In my ethnic neighborhoods, where they sell all manner of appliances in the other voltage types, you can get such VCRs and the multi-region DVD players, universal TVs, etc. I am kind of surprised that you can play the PAL tapes on your VCR. What brand of VCR do you have? And are those "original" PALs or have they been converted to NTSC and the covers are copies from the real tape? (Janet) I would assume this also applies in the US. No, but I wish it were the case. We're very parochial when it comes to such things. It's our way or the highway. You know, just like all the Americans who travel to foreign countries and expect everyone to speak English. ;-D

(Karen) I am kind of surprised that you can play the PAL tapes on your VCR. What brand of VCR do you have? And are those "original" PALs or have they been converted to NTSC and the covers are copies from the real tape? To clarify, I'm not at all sure that it is a PAL tape. I'm almost certain that both the cover that came with the tape and the label on the tape are originals. But as you point out, that doesn't rule out the possibility that the tape is an NTSC copy (with an original label attached). From what you've said about the rarity of PAL-compatible VCR's in the US, I'm guessing that's the case. Mine are fairly standard-issue Philips and Sony models, nothing special. Thanks for the information!