Well I don't want to shag the prez (clenched -teeth kisser, for sure;-))...but shagging Bill you never know what disease you'd get. I don't think those those San Fran gals have any taste. Not that I care...but Harrison Ford is missing. Psst..."That earring and dating those young chicks didn't pay off, Harrison."

This Amanda Bynes has quite the site: http://amandamonium.50megs.com/fr_index.html?/central.htm This is Tom Harper, a young new British actor who has been in a couple of small films that have pretty much stayed in England. He's going to get his first big American exposure in Amanda Bynes' new film "American Girl", and it looks like he might be the bloke Amanda's character Daphne falls in love with in the film. I couldn't think of any actor, American or British, who'd be right for this, so I'm happy they're going with an unknown quantity here. Of more renown is the actor playing Amanda's disapproving father, Colin Firth, who was most visible a few years ago in "Bridget Jones' Diary" with Renee Zellweger, and also appeared in "Shakespeare in Love". In fact, Amanda is one of very few Amercian thesps in this cast. But the big thing is, the film is shooting now in England, and depending on how long it goes, this means we may not see her in Pasadena for the TCA Press Tour (the Critics' annual summertime thing for the press)...but what's more likely is that she may find time to be present at the premiere when "Big Fat Liar" opens in England on June 28th. Wouldn't that be loverly? http://www.staronline.com/vcs/entertainment/article/0,1375,VCS_232_1197705,00.html Amanda Bynes goes to London for film After being Frankie Muniz's sidekick, Thousand Oaks star gets her first lead movie role June 9, 2002 Amanda Bynes of Thousand Oaks is starring in her first lead movie role in "American Girl," now filming in London. "I play Daphne -- a 17-year-old from New York who travels to London in search of the father she never knew (played by Colin Firth)," Bynes wrote in an e-mail message from the British capital. "My mother was married to him briefly when they were in the Peace Corps in Morocco. He comes from a very aristocratic family who didn't approve of my mother. Unbeknownst to him, she leaves London pregnant with me and moves back to the States. "Daphne is somewhat of a free-spirit, Bohemian type of character. It's really exciting to be able to work with all these British actors. It's whole different experience than what I'm used to." Bynes played the sidekick to "Malcolm in the Middle" star Frankie Muniz's character in "Big Fat Liar." She will star this fall in The WB's "What I Like About You" and had starred in "The Amanda Show," a sketch comedy show on Nickelodeon. "I don't really feel like I'm in the spotlight," Bynes said. "I just like working, and it's always fun to meet new people on the sets."

Now try to convince the tongue-brigade. ;-D (Karen), I don't believe anyone was advocating that messy, sloppy, drippy or otherwise juvenile kissing. The criticism was that Colin is acting the kiss, as opposed making it look believable...whatever that may require. IMO, it requires he show some passion and get his face and facial muscles into it more. That's all. You didn't get my point at all, KJ. As Karen said, I am only pointing out the fact that Colin acts his kiss scene in a very self-conscious way and it interferes with the reality aspect. My favourite part of BJD is when he nuzzles on RZ neck, that really works for me. In P&P I was electrified the first time D&E touch hands dancing at the Netherfield Ball. I adore Geoffrey in TEP and he never gets any tongue action either. My criticism, to set the story straight because obviously, it needs to be repeated, is that his kisses don't look natural, nothing to do with saliva or tongue. I'm talking lip to lip. Colin holds back now and he didn't use to. Also, and this is the most important part, this is all in good fun. Nothing to burn brain cells over. (Karen), But when Bridget says, "nice boys don't kiss like that," I saw nothing to justify it. (Lisa), Ditto, besides the fact that noses collided. IMO it should have been reshot, yet again! Let the fun continue! :-D BTW, the wet shirt never did anything for me. ;-) Me neither. Interesting article, Karen. I can't believe Brian Eno is on that list! Sure, I'd have lots to talk to him about but no horizontal cha-cha there. A big miss is Olivier Martinez, Il est tr�s beau, and I have been saying this for years. ;-)

Thanks, Bryonny, I don't usually watch TV and had no clue what Amanda looked like. She looks very American. He comes from a very aristocratic family who didn't approve of my mother. There's the mold. Still, I rather have him play an aristocrat than a bum.

The first quote I ever saw by CF in the press was something along the lines of "I don't like sex scenes, infact I loathe them. I enjoy sex far too much to pretend to do it for a living." Interpret as you will (assuming he actually said this!)!

interesting quote bethan, i can't imagine what it's like to be in a sex scene, it makes sense to me imo i find actors (male and female) more appealing when they are able to maintain good relationships outside of their work, ex: all that stuff about meg ryan and russell crowe and breaking up with her hubby just really turned me off to her, i love tom hanks and that is partly because he seems like a good person, father, husband in real life, so i think that i might not find colin so appealing if he ended up having an affair or something hey there is always fan fiction to help if he intends to be more chaste in his movies

Thanks for the background information on Amanda Bynes. I could not resist going along to West Wycombe Park again today and this time my luck was in as Colin was there filming with Anna Chancellor. Only downside was he was rather far away. However, can advise he looked very slim, was wearing a well cut grey flannel suit, white shirt and bluey/grey tie with black lace ups and, I think black socks. His hair was very similar to how it was in BJD althought I thought somewhat lighter and he was clean shaven. I got to talk to the girl who was AB's double in the film and she was able to give me some more information. Colin takes the part of Lord Dashwood and Anna Chancellor is playing the part of his fiancee. His American ex wife is played by Kelly Preston. However, all the scenes which required her presence were done last week and she has now flown back to the States. A further two members of the cast are Anne Organ and Christina Cole. The film is set in the present time.

BTW, the wet shirt never did anything for me. ;-) Me neither. It wasn't so much the wet shirt, per se, for me, as the casual, relaxed way he looked with his hair mussed up and shirt untucked just striding along the countryside. It was an enjoyable contrast to his usual impeccable look. By the same token, I thought he looked great talking to Elizabeth on their walk at Pemberley and as he stood in the driveway watching them go. I love it when men can dress down as well as up, and appear comfortable in both. (Bethan) The first quote I ever saw by CF in the press was something along the lines of "I don't like sex scenes, infact I loathe them. I enjoy sex far too much to pretend to do it for a living." Interpret as you will (assuming he actually said this!)! I saw this too somewhere. My first reaction is to say "Well then maybe you should do something else," but then again he can chose to do roles that don't require sex scenes (a monk, perhaps ;-D), or very limited ones. Of course that can be limiting his choice of projects and he's whining that they aren't breaking down his door as it is. Quite frankly I'd probably hate to do them myself (unless I was hot for my co-star ;-D ). I would love to see who they polled for that list. Tommy Lee a choice of the over-40 set?! None of those people must have any self-respect to be attracted to someone who beats and verbally abuses his wife. I like "bad boys", but really....!

How exciting Jennie! You couldn't have been too far away to see his socks! Kelly Preston....hmmm, would never have thought of her. Did you take any pics? What does AB need a double for? Is it an action pic? ;-)

Great detective work, Jennie! You've got him right down to his socks! Lord Dashwood, indeed. Very dashing, IMO :-) Kelly Preston is a good choice. This is a strong cast for a teen movie. And the Peace Corps bit is a nice touch. It tidies up the out-of-wedlock storyline. If you get to talk to him, Jennie, ask if he's signed up for the sequel.

Dashwood, huh? Well, then, filming at West Wycombe Park was required for authenticity, wasn't it? Time to start putting up some family history about the Hellfire Club. How lovely to be able to go back and check out the filming, Jennie, and get the additional details. Also, a big thanks to you, Bryonny, for the updates from the Bynes bunch. Better you should go there than I. I hate those sites. argh! Kelly Preston's done already?! Wow, am all astonishment and jaw has dropped open. Filming just started and is to continue into August. Surely she could not have already finished if part of the plot involves getting back together with Colin. (Bethan quoting Colin) "I don't like sex scenes, infact I loathe them. I enjoy sex far too much to pretend to do it for a living." Most actors would say the same, so Colin is not unusual in that regard. They also say there is nothing remotely sexy about doing a love scene, as it is strictly choreographed and you have a bunch of people watching you, telling you what to do over and over again, not to mention the silly little modesty pouch some of them wear. However, they are actors.

(Bethan) The first quote I ever saw by CF in the press was something along the lines of "I don't like sex scenes, infact I loathe them. I enjoy sex far too much to pretend to do it for a living." We all read that, Bethan...ages ago. As if he didn't have enough limitations on his career.Kids on two continents, visitation responsibilities....sheech. Thanks Byronny for AG storyline....sounds riveting;-)Didn't Barbara Streisand and Robt' Redford do that years ago???.. "The Way we Were";-) Thanks Jennie...what a coup; I hope they were long socks;-) I like Kelly Preston.

I hope they were long socks;-) snigger Kelly Preston's done already?! Agreed! Wasn't the plot suposed to revolve around the parents getting back together with the daughter's help? Nice one with KP, one of the few that wasn't guessed here. Is CF going to costar with every major film star's wife? He still has to work his way through Mrs. Speilberg, the ex- Mrs. Cruise, and Mrs. Hanks to name a few, but he's working on it. Jennie, Excellent work. Did you take pics? Did you see any scenes being shot? I would love to know (also) why they need a double for AC, who IMO should be perfect in the role described. If you go back, take binoculars, then make sure you have a good look at the hair and update us as to his MPB. :))) Also, have a look out for DW and DB (dear baby) if there are any kissing scenes and get the whole lowdown! :))))))

(Dorine) What does AB need a double for? Is it an action pic? ;-) Loved the winkie, but doubles are used for more than action films (and those are usually denoted as "stunt doubles"). I've had this explained to me by an actor. There are stand-ins and doubles. Stand-ins do just that, standing in for the actor during all the boring setup work (getting the lighting right, etc.) A double however might be used in shot where the actor's face isn't shown and he/she has no lines. So instead of having the actor playing essentially a dummy, they have a double for that purpose.

If Kelly Preston's scenes have all been shot, maybe the daughter's plan fails and AC's character gets to be the next Lady Dashwood?

Hey Kate, 12 yr. olds like happy endings;-) They don't shoot in sequence anyway.Indoor scenes may be filmed later. And John will send Kelly back in his plane;-) See???

Hey Kate, 12 yr. olds like happy endings;-) They don't shoot in sequence anyway.Indoor scenes may be filmed later. And John will send Kelly back in his plane;-) Evelyn, you're reading my mind today, right down to John's T' jet!:-) Keep this in mind, gang: Amanda is very popular with the pre-teen set. Has had her own show on Nickelodeon, and will have another on the WB this fall. The focus is *not* going to be on dad and mom, it will be on Amanda and Tom Harper, the young English boyfrtiend. That's what young girls want to see. Mom and Dad being reunited will be a nice additional touch.

However, can advise he looked very slim, was wearing a well cut grey flannel suit, white shirt and bluey/grey tie with black lace ups and, I think black socks. Sounds like they got the little Italian tailor back in.;-) Another great insider report, Jennie! I had a good feeling about your going back there today. Thanks for getting the info on Kelly Preston--she's good, a very likable actress, but face it, this role hardly requires the presence of a great thesp. Actually, none of the roles do, but it is a good strong cast. Thanks, Bryonny, for the plot info. I think it will be a cute film, the type I like to watch now and then. I absolutely loved The Parent Trap remake, for example. It's just not the type of thing I want for Colin, especially coming on the heels of other comedies. Looking on the bright side, it will be distributed, none of us on either side of the pond will have to go hunting for a theater in which to see it, and they'll promote it heavily because it appeals to the teens. I'm guessing they'll put it out this time next year, when the schools are out for the summer break.

Thanks Jennie about the report. My heart just jumped; I mean you start so casually, and then revealing more and more... Anna Chancellor, Lord Dashwood: are we heading for another Austen spiral of connections? :) or a match-up: HG:2 - CF:2. If KP is done shooting in London, can we hope for a reuniting scene in NY? More likely though to be later studio filming like Evelyn mentioned.

I just got in-boy you guys have been busy. What a day to be away. IMO, last night's AFI show said it all. All of those earlier films really had passionate scenes without the tongue action. It can be done, Colin is capable as we have seen. I know what's been said about the BJD kiss, I agree for the most part, but that didn't stop me from replaying it over and over the first time I watched it. Wish there had been more emphasis on the nuzzling part in the apartment. I think he was fantastic in that scene. Don't get me wrong, I'm part of the tongue brigade, but I can do without it(v.reluctantly) if he would just let loose with some of the passion of the old days. Great report from the UK on AG. (Mari)none of us on either side of the pond will have to go hunting for a theater in which to see it Awh shucks, does that mean we have to see it separately. Not have our own premiere in NJ? Geez.

As the scene opens, our hero is reclining in bed, night side light on, as he and DW pour over submitted scripts. �Here�s one, excellent writing and I understand Nicole Kidman has agreed to the female lead.� DW grabs the script and flips through it with her thumb. �Ah, no caro, see, I looked at this. It is no good. The male lead, the homicide detective, has a girlfriend. All his work is discussed in bed. I�m sure you�d have to take off your shirt for that one.� Rather dejectedly, our hero agrees and drops that one on the floor. �Wait! What about this one? I thought this would be superb. I could play the anti-hero, the character everyone loves to hate.� He hands her another from the pile. �But, love, everyone hates the character because he is seducing their wives. Sorry.� With a big sigh, our hero flips that one down to the floor, to keep company with the other reject. �OK, there can�t be anything wrong with this one. A social worker who spends his off hours helping underprivileged kids by starting a cricket team. Surely, you can�t find fault with this one. And, it�s being directed by Oliver Stone!� DW takes the script from his hands and flips to a turned down page. �Look here,� she says pointing with a glossy red nail. Our hero looks at the page in question and then protests, �Oh come on. You can�t be worried about the character giving his grandmother a kiss.� DW wags her finger and smiles smugly, feeling quite pleased that she has foiled another attempt by our hero to sneak any kind of action into one of his films. �Here,� she says as her tosses the last script into the growing heap on the floor. �This one is just what you should do.� Our hero reads the cover and rolls his eyes. He�s read this one already. �Yes, love, you are probably right,� he concedes as he reacquaints himself with the role of a hermit who spends his days finding stray dogs and spending all his pension money to feed. The only female role in the pic is the landlady, an 82 year old grey-haired toothless woman with a hearing aid. Our hero picks up the phone and calls his agent.......... And the saga continues........

LoL, Lisa. Could be true, but then that would mean ODB is a Mr. Milktoast. Nah, I don't beleive it.

(Lisa) �Here,� she says as her tosses the last script into the growing heap on the floor. �This one is just what you should do.� ROFL! I had to come out of lurkdom for this one. But I would be careful about upsetting La Dottoressa (sp?) :)

Hi Everyone, Thanks Jennie, what a thrill this is. You are sooo lucky. Is it possible ladies, that the statement in the BJD kiss was made to show that he had a bit more passion than everyone thought and was no wimp in that department? It's a possibility. Watched Valmont again last night and 2nd kissing scene with MT is great. If its in the script, I think it should be done with as much conviction as possible. These people are pros supposedly and should be willing to give it their best shot, personal feelings or situations aside. If there's something they don't like in the script don't do the movie. But they are paid outstanding salaries to deliver a money-making project. Do you think they lose sight of that? If the actors become prima donnas the pay checks will become further and further apart. But they must also bow to the type of movie that has audience appeal. It's like any job really, you don't do it they'll look for someone else who will. Especially precarious situation to be in in the acting field. I feel CF delivers. Just wish he could hook up with bigger leading ladies like HG does. But for some reason this doesn't seem to appeal to him but would definitely boost the career and marketablity. I'm sure they'd work with him in a heartbeat. He's far superior to HG!!! Loved the DW scene Lisa. Have a good night everyone.

... Liiiiiisaaaaaa ....LMAO....Too Funny. And in case you guys haven't gathered , Lisa is one of our ace auteurs on Fan Fic#159. Don't miss her "Under My Skin" story. She should write scripts for The Divine One. Hola Lola We love "unlurkers"...stick around. You never know what these guys bring up next. Never a dull day!!

I could play the anti-hero, the character everyone loves to hate.� . . . �But, love, everyone hates the character because he is seducing their wives. Sorry.� ROTFLMAO!! So funny, Lisa, thanks! Hello, Hola Lola! Or should that be simply . . .Hola, Lola.;-) Reminds me of Hughie in Mickey Blue Eyes: "What's the name of your parents' restaurant?" "The La Trattoria." (Blinking madly)"Um . . .you do realize that's redundant. It's like saying 'The The Trattoria'." Well, *I* thought it was funny.:-) Back to TIOBE--has anyone noticed that they have the new ads (the bucolic setting) blown up enormously and placed in the theater lobbies? Too bad I had my small purse with me.;-) Seems like the commercials are running just in the greater NYC area? The box office still looks ok, I'm hoping they'll continue to expand it.

Hola and welcome Lola! We do have fun here. La Dottoressa (sp?) :) Brava, Lola, it is correct. BTW, for those who don't know, in Italy when you receive your BA, you become a Dottore or Dottoressa. It does not mean you have a PhD. And, a medical doctor would be called Professore. Dorine), How exciting Jennie! You couldn't have been too far away to see his socks! How did you manage? Amazing Jennie, we await more reports. Thank you! (Evelyn), I hope they were long socks;-) Thank you, Ev! You know how to cheer me up. And speaking of cheer, let's all wish gli Azzuri a big win in tomorrow's WC game, Forza Italia! (Lisa), And the saga continues........ Carissima, sei meravigliosa! LOL! I look forward to the continuation. ;-)

Maybe DW would agree to a remake of "Harold and Maude" ? (yes v.v.good work jenny...start small with the double and who knows who you may end up chatting with.....) As for the the last line in BJD, granted, it may not have been warranted, but it worked for me. Sort of like the line in Empire Strikes Back(?) before Han Solo gets frozen : PL:"I love you." HS: "I know." The wet shirt in P&P didn't do it for me either. I much more enjoyed the letter writing scene with the open neck shirt when he leans back in frustration. Welcome all newcomers and thanks for all the new reports...much has gone on in 24 hours.

he concedes as he reacquaints himself with the role of a hermit who spends his days finding stray dogs and spending all his pension money to feed. Think I've read about this one, a Disney film, The Shaggy Dog III Pffft!! Looking for my Windex. ROTFLMAO!! Great job, Lisa. (Odile) Lord Dashwood: are we heading for another Austen spiral of connections? :) Not really. The Dashwood family owns West Wycombe Park and some of their past history is fascinating. What would be fun is if Colin's character was a chip off the old block. ;-D (Pam) Is it possible ladies, that the statement in the BJD kiss was made to show that he had a bit more passion than everyone thought and was no wimp in that department? It's a possibility. More than a possibility, that's exactly what we are supposed to think. (Mari) has anyone noticed that they have the new ads (the bucolic setting) blown up enormously and placed in the theater lobbies? I've seen the print ads (whose bodies are those????) but nothing at the theater. The two theaters I've been to didn't even have the old poster. And last but not least... Hola Lola!! Good to see you here. I remember I couldn't handle being a lurker. I had to have my share of the conversation. And do we ever have fun here. :)

Hola Lola.....Nice to see ya! (Lisa) DW wags her finger and smiles smugly, feeling quite pleased that she has foiled another attempt by our hero to sneak any kind of action into one of his films. ROFLMAO, too!!!!! What a riot, Lisa! (Amy) I much more enjoyed the letter writing scene with the open neck shirt when he leans back in frustration. A toss up for me...yet another example of that disheveled look I like. (Mari) The focus is *not* going to be on dad and mom, it will be on Amanda and Tom Harper, the young English boyfrtiend. That's what young girls want to see. And there might be a few more moms in the audience than usually seen at a teen movie because we know what they will want to see! ;-D

Grrrr! Why didn't the second show up? Try, try again. Since he brought it up with Jeffrey Lyons, here are the visuals:

Oh, jeez! (Whilst staring at ODB's crotch) Hmmmmmmm. I wonder if he knows that old saying for remembering which way to unscrew a light bulb...... Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey!

...here are the visuals: Pffft!! Indeed...Oh ma mercy...Karen, when you're done with that Windex, I need to borrow it and it's all your fault! This reminds me, my husband is a Civil War reenactor, there is a command given to soldiers in ranks to "dress right" or "dress left" meaning straighten up keying to your right or left as appropriate. I don't think I will ever hear that command given again in quite the same way.

Boy Howdy....that was sure an attention grabbing post!!!!! :)))) LOL Karen you stopped me right in the middle of Ch 16 discussions! The editor and I took a minute or two and savoured the visuals. On another note...and this is only from what the synopsis has said...CF's part could in fact be bigger than KP's. If the daughter is coming to the UK to find the father and reestablish a relationship with him, then his role should certainly be bigger than KP's, especially if we are seeing action in the form of shooting on the ground of the above mentioned estate. Would the Most Admired One take such a lowly part if it were to only support two teenage roles? Oh God, why do I ask such questions????? BTW Jennie......... if you are out there.......did you see this actress who is the daughter around at all???? PSSSSTAsk those in the know, if you go back, where the shooting continues on location!!!!!! Lastly, Camera, Camera!!!!!1

Well, judging from the two pics Karen just posted, CF's "part" *is* rather big, and in any case, I'd say it's *much* bigger than KP's... Does KP have a "part"??? Oh!!! You're talking about their ROLES, aren't you? ;-) Karen, you've now confirmed what was my memory from the scene at Rosings where CF seemed to be *ahem* tenting a bit... he dresses to the right.

he dresses to the right. Indeed Jane, I agree...however a scene at Netherfield (walking down the steps to the carriage) before Bing's proposal made me think about that!!!!!! BTW, Jerry McGuire (sp) comes to mind w/KP and her blurb about being willing to, ahem, how might I say this tactfully, okay there's no way to do it, with another woman for his own pleasure (and for the character's I would imagine as well). In any case, this little flick may have more to it than it appears. We can only hope!

Aye caramba Someone should tell him that's no place to keep a spare pair of socks. Could lead to all sorts of speculation.

(anna)Someone should tell him that's no place to keep a spare pair of socks. Doesn't look like spare socks to me, dahling!;)

If it's true that men think with a certain part of their anatomy, then clearly Fitz Darcy is right-brain dominant.;-) From Variety: Kelly Preston will put her singing voice to the test playing a professional thrush opposite Amanda Bynes and Colin Firth in the Dennie Gordon-directed "American Girl," the working title of a pic just getting started for Warner Bros., Gaylord and producer Denise DiNovi. Preston, who last starred in "A View From the Top," is said to be a capable songstress.

The focus is *not* going to be on dad and mom, it will be on Amanda and Tom Harper, the young English boyfrtiend. That's what young girls want to see. Mom and Dad being reunited will be a nice additional touch. (Mari) Has anyone seen "My father the hero" starring Gerard Depardieu. It's all about a divorced dad taking his teenaged daughter on holiday. She, of course, has a holiday romance, but the focus is always on dad and his reactions. Great little movie! (I also liked "The Parent Trap"!) I'm hoping that AG will have a touch of both, plus a smidgen of "The Grass is Greener" my favourite "ol'" movie (Cary Grant plays an English lord living in a stately home, Deborah Kerr is his wife who falls for a visiting American (Robert Mitchum). Just call me shallow! Perhaps the "reunion" of the parents just means that they meet up again and are on good terms. Or perhaps there are more Kelly Preston scenes...she must sing somewhere (The Debutantes' Ball?)....perhaps set in the US.

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Glad you liked the visuals, ladies. However, if you're interested in more of same (or numerous discussions of bulges, stuffing contests, socks...even wet shirts), check out Topic 112, "Darcy Drool." The topic is full of drool, buckets full, in fact, such that you might want to put on your boots. *winkie winkie* (Lisa) he dresses to the right. Indeed Jane, I agree...however a scene at Netherfield (walking down the steps to the carriage) before Bing's proposal made me think about that!!!!!! Your memory serves you v. well. We've concluded that Mr D is "ampisexdrous" ;-D Topic 112 contains the reposting of some research and analytical work I did that was submitted in partial fulfillment for a degree in crotchology. (Mari) Kelly Preston will put her singing voice to the test playing a professional thrush So let me get this straight, the ex-feminist, ex-Peace Corps worker is now a singer? What, does she have a lounge act? Will Lord D appear with guitar in hand and serenade again? Will they do a duet, so from up above and he from below?

Oh Karen...you are too funny. You should have warned the Prude Brigade though;-) "Cover your eyes"

(Karen)Will Lord D appear with guitar in hand and serenade again? Will they do a duet, so from up above and he from below? I've been wondering about a duet. It could become an argument, set in the moonlight. CF: Lady come down. KP: No, Lord come up. CF: Lady come down. KP: No, milord. Lord come up. CF: But the song is Lady Come Down. KP: I don't care. I'm not dressed, and I refuse to parade around the lawn in my nightgown. TWANG! [as guitar is seen bouncing across the lawn] KP: Oof! Milord!

OH! Just thought of alternate duet scenario. Could be a flashback scene of their days in the Peace Corps, sitting by the fire, he's strumming his guitar while she sings, one thing leads to another...

Re: AG story. How did a Peace Corps worker(KP) meet a Brit Lord in Morrocco? What was *he* doing there? Peace Corps was US. But I agree with you Mari...AG has a distrib and that says it all. He'll get paid and we won't have to hump it through all the festivals and film markets.Can't be as bad as L'dumb.

What was *he* doing there? Peace Corps was US. Perhaps he was a VSO (Voluntary Service Overseas)- the Brit Peace Corps equivalent. A caring sharing Lord. BTW, LOL to all the above. You ladies are really on a roll!

You can whose publicist has been busy giving out info, but check out the director's name. Error???? From THR today: Kelly Preston has been cast in Warner Bros.' untitled debutante project (aka "American Girl") for director Adam Schenkman. The film stars Amanda Bynes, who has been raised in New York by her mom (Preston). She decides to search out her long-lost father (Colin Firth) in London, but once there, her American ways disrupt his lifestyle. Anna Chancellor, Jonathan Pryce, Dame Eileen Atkins, Oliver James and Christina Cole round out the cast. Preston is repped by ICM and manager Joel Stevens. ... ~~~~~~~~~ I do like the fact that AG is only a working title. Felt like William in Lisa's UMS story yesterday as drove up behind a bus, only to be faced by entire back covered in advertisement for The American Girl Place! ;-D

Lisa - you are too funny. I await the next episode. Now what do you make of this..... In what could be the first sighting of TIOBE promos here - "Arenatainment" on Foxtel aired a short preview of TIOBE tonight. I think it is the program hosted by Nicole's sister - Premier (?). I was channel surfing (in between World Cup games) and came upon this channel just in time for "Sneak Previews" to pop up - and there was RW in all her mediablitz glory. I was too shocked with the find that I just saw her lips moving but did not hear a word she was saying. LOL. No other interviews :-( except for sub-second film snippets of RE; JD and CF but no FO'C. (She should be alarmed. If she can't score a few seconds of small screen time to show her face in her own country - there is definitely someone worse at his/her job than ODB's agent!!!) Longer was the clip from the Lady Bracknell interview of Earnest - same one shown in the Judi Dench tribute. He looks so delightfully edible :-)~~~~ Wait for this...the segment ends with something like : "....starring RW with a period costume support team of RE, JD, CF and Australia's FO'C" I hope I misheard this too. Those on Foxtel - maybe you can check it out - this is likely to be replayed.

Karen - you have proven that pictures do indeed paint a thousand words - or point to the right direction. *Cover your eyes*. ROTFL.

"My father the hero" C'�tait terrible! I didn't like it at all! "The Grass is Greener" my favourite "ol'" movie (Cary Grant plays an English lord living in a stately home, Deborah Kerr is his wife I did like this. The dialog was very much like Noel Coward, brilliant. I wonder who wrote it? (Karen), So let me get this straight, the ex-feminist, ex-Peace Corps worker is now a singer? What, does she have a lounge act? Will Lord D appear with guitar in hand and serenade again? (Kate), Could be a flashback scene of their days in the Peace Corps, sitting by the fire, he's strumming his guitar while she sings, ...Yes, we have no bananas, we have no bananas today. And don't forget that little dance ;-) At least now AG is a working title. I still want to know more about the debutante part? Does Anna Chandler arrange it to try to change Amanda's American way? Long live Miss Bingley! This is so very much like the Princess Diaries. But Hollywood doesn't have any original ideas. Even C. Nolan who did Memento has followed it up with a remake of a 5 year old film, Insomnia! You'd think he would remain integral. :-( Kate that was very funny!

"I play Daphne -- a 17-year-old from New York who travels to London in search of the father Thanks, Bryonny, for the info. It looks like they dropped Daphne's age down by two years in order to accomodate KP's age, who I think is in her late thirties and not 40 yet. So that way she would have had her baby at about 21 instead of in her late teens. How convenient! Thanks, Jennie, for being such a great sleuth at the estate. If you can, find Amanda's double again and ask if the singing will be done at the estate location or in US location. Maybe mommy is American rock star in manner of Madonna and is on tour in England and daughter and boyfriend plot to reunite her with daddy. Then everyone is in movie more and all live happily ever after in London and in country house...hmmm sounds like M's current life ;-)! (Lisa)�Look here,� she says pointing with a glossy red nail. ROTFLOL!!! You are too funny, Lisa! The image of a glossy red nail poking and tapping through scripts is a riot! Karen and Evelyn, I don't know where to look first between all the kissing and crotching protrusions! Lots of vivid, poking images around here lately... ;-) Too bad AG will probably only give us glossy red nails at most ;-(.

(Lora) Karen and Evelyn, I don't know where to look first between all the kissing and crotching protrusions! Yeah, 'cept when I give you a picture of a kiss...it fills up the screen. The Boss is a little stingy with the size of her images;-D Bethan, "ole- eagle -eye- with- best- memory"....do you remember the article that talked about ODB and CBC stuffing their britches in P&P?

(Lora)Too bad AG will probably only give us glossy red nails at most ;-(. No, pink. They're debutantes, after all. ;-) Moon, thanks for the reminder--how could I forget that singing performance! It was the first time I ever saw him do something goofy in a movie. Hmm, am hungry, must go have a banana... Heads up, Firthettes! Earnest may be coming to a theater nearer to you. I just checked Moviephone for times for tomorrow, and the list for tomorrow is longer (15 in whatever radius I picked) than the list for today (only 5)! Will be seeing TIOBE in NY with a good friend, who I love, even if she did embarrass me by squealing loudly at her first sight of ODB in BJD.

In just a few hours I will be seeing TIOBE for a fifth time. This time I'm going specifically to check out the handiwork of the little Roman tailor. Now, did he mean stage right or left? I'll figure it out. (Lora) Karen and Evelyn, I don't know where to look first between all the kissing and crotching protrusions! At least, so it would seem, there is a great deal to talk about in this-uh *cough,cough* area. And therefore, thank heaven, ODB would not fall into the Knob-head with no Knob category as vile Richard.

Help, I'm trying to close tags, never forgot before, what do I do. Sorry boss,v.distracted with this topic.

(Lora) Karen and Evelyn, I don't know where to look first between all the kissing and crotching protrusions! A case of Colin's "Crotching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"? Oh my! :)

LOL.Good one, Lola.

(Kate) Heads up, Firthettes! Earnest may be coming to a theater nearer to you. I just checked Moviephone for times for tomorrow, and the list for tomorrow is longer Just saw a blurb on Yahoo's Entertainment headlines re: RW talking about learning her accent. The last line states TIOBE is opening Nationwide tomorrow!

Karen, thanks for the memories. Nothing more pleasing to the eye. Great job! I like the wet shirt, the messed up hair, the gorgeous eyes, the chest, and especially Lizzy's expression when she sees his chest. Especially like expressions and eyes and hair after taking his bath. Nothing better!!! Have watched alot of old ones this week, MLSF, FP, AC, ATA and have come to the conclusion that from London, to Rossings, to Scotland there is no actor alive today who can run up a flight of stairs like Colin and look so good doing it. Just so beyond handsome in ATA, words can't express. Definitely needed tighter pants tho. Have exhausted CF movies from my local Blockbuster. They didn't have a very wide selection. Anyone know any other place that may have more? Thank you.

(Karen)The Dashwood family owns West Wycombe Park and some of their past history is fascinating. What would be fun is if Colin's character was a chip off the old block. ;-D Really, can you elaborate? I guess they named CF's character as a wink to them; what was the name in the older version? Great news Dorine about TIOBE. Maybe it will come to Alaska now: even our "art house" theaters (meaning two saloons which double as theaters on some nights) showed no sign of it at all for June or July). Grrr!

(Bethan) Has anyone seen "My father the hero" starring Gerard Depardieu....Great little movie! I'm hoping that AG will have a touch of both Do I need to bring the voodoo doll back out?! ;-D That was a hideous movie (and I think it had a different name here). Of course, it may have something to do with the sick feeling that comes over me everytime I see that hulking mass on the screen, posing as a desirable person. Blech (Evelyn) You should have warned the Prude Brigade though;-) Mea culpa. I was remembering when the member of the Prude Brigade used to carry her mop and bucket in the Drool Corps proudly. ;-D (Moon) ...Yes, we have no bananas, we have no bananas today. And don't forget that little dance ;-) Just getting warmed up for tomorrow's encore performance, she says sneakily. (Evelyn) Yeah, 'cept when I give you a picture of a kiss...it fills up the screen. The Boss is a little stingy with the size of her images;-D Is that a dare? I can actually do bettah on the wedding pic but I don't know if this crowd can handle something that...ahem...large. (Linda) And therefore, thank heaven, ODB would not fall into the Knob-head with no Knob category as vile Richard. LOL! I am constantly amazed at how several of the ladies have that movie's dialogue memorized and can always get it to fit into our discussions. BTW, no need to apologize about not closing the tag, Linda, you didn't do it. It was Bethan, who no doubt was fanning herself so intently, while typing, that in her aroused state she missed the closing tag. ;-D (Lola) A case of Colin's "Crotching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"? Oh my! :) *snort* I doubt I'll be able to watch that first Today Show interview again without snickering. (Pam) have come to the conclusion that from London, to Rossings, to Scotland there is no actor alive today who can run up a flight of stairs like Colin and look so good doing it. Amen, sistah! And he probably does it in more movies than anyone else has had to do. It's become a trademark move. Ooof, must get some Kleenex.

(Lola)A case of Colin's "Crotching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"? Oh my! :) LOL, LOLA! And welcome aboard! You've definitely gotten your "C" legs ;-)!

in the time that i have been sitting here reading these quite, um, stimulating posts, the ol' t.v. has had 2 TIOBE commercials.....not that i am a slow reader mind you....! It is interesting (subliminally) that "banana" has crept into the conversation. What is the old saying...? Size doesn't matter? Bring on the big pics Karen! ;^) BTW what was the article about the stuffing in P&P. :)

(Lola) A case of Colin's "Crotching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"? Oh my! :) *snort* I doubt I'll be able to watch that first Today Show interview again without snickering. I was thinking that too! Very funny, Lola, you have that Firthette humour. :-) (Pam), there is no actor alive today who can run up a flight of stairs like Colin and look so good doing it. (Karen), And he probably does it in more movies than anyone else has had to do. It's become a trademark move. True. But if he only wore long socks. ;-) (Linda), thank heaven, ODB would not fall into the Knob-head with no Knob category as vile Richard. (Karen), LOL! I am constantly amazed at how several of the ladies have that movie's dialogue memorized and can always get it to fit into our discussions. And it is much appreciated. LOL, Linda! (Moon) ...Yes, we have no bananas, we have no bananas today. And don't forget that little dance ;-) (Karen), Just getting warmed up for tomorrow's encore performance, she says sneakily. You know me too well, dear Geoffrey. And, Italy passed to next round, so this girl is very happy. :-D

Yes, just got back from screening #5. And here is my weekly theater report. Thursday, 6:45 show---PACKED, again. Lots of laughter. I noticed many people stayed in their seats for the credits-either that old word of mouth is working, or people are going back for multiple viewings. I really admired, for the first time, the impeccable work of the little Roman tailor. Kept my eyes peeled to the *ahem* screen. (Karen)Is that a dare? I can actually do bettah on the wedding pic but I don't know if this crowd can handle something that...ahem...large. We can handle it, boss, honest!

Bring it on Karen. Remember ladies, size is in the eye of the beholder, and I am certainly beholden to be his beholder!!!!

Yes, do, please. I think I can handle it. ;)

Someone at the Tea Room posted this link to the BBC's Behind the Scenes of P&P page. I'm not sure if I've seen this before, but there are several video clips. Just a note, they've mixed up their clips. The one where they talk about Mr Darcy and Colin speaks is the link under the pic of Pemberley. http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/prideandprej.shtml

I was reading an article on palmistry recently, and thought this may be of some interest to those of you fascinated by certain 'aspects' of ODB. "If size is your priority, look for a man with large fingers compared to the size of his palm. The longer and fleshier they are, the more well-endowed he is!!"

There's a transcript of the Angelika theater interview with CF on Meluchie's page. Was anyone here able to tape this one off the IFC? http://www.grin.net/~meluchie/articles/02angelica0603.html

Thank you, Mari, I missed this one as IFC only airs for a few hours on Bravo here.

Thanks Mari and Meluchie for the Angelika transcript. CF Re: TIOBE" I mean you don?t even have to be an actor. I think the caterers have done it, you know, at school." ROTF.The boss said that from the beginning.Let's hope all those people go to see it;-)

(CF) These things go in cycles and I think this play probably has gone through a cycle of feeling rather fusty. And I think it�s �it�s�it�s due for a bit of a renaissance. Leitmotif...fusty! I had no idea that by hanging out here I would be getting vocabulary lessons from CF as well! If he'd been one of my teachers at school...I don't think I would've learned very much ;-) Actually I did have one very attractive teacher in high school...couldn't tell you what he taught, but could describe every inch of his face! ;-D

Hi Everyone, Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I have just spent one of the best afternoons I've ever had on the Darcydrool. What euphoria!!! I had to stop my eyes got so tired. Being new I'm just getting into all the different topics. What joy this is. Can't wait to get back and read more. But must say everything is a delight from the LOOK TO CFCFC, what a blast. But I must say the highlight so far is Rocky Horror P&P2. What an absolute delight and what a wonderful job. If any of you haven't seen it for a while, go back and give yourself a real treat. I myself can't pick a favorite Colin scene, I loved him in every scene he was in and found myself agreeing with everyone about their choices. Will have to narrow it down I guess. Anyway thank you so much everyone. This is a real joy. Looking forward to going through all of the topics.

Found this while lookin' around.... From Box Office Prophets.com Hope Springs Release Date: Fall 2002 (Ed. note: Imagine if you will, in this spot, a picture of Mark Darcy...Barrister Extraordinaire) An incredibly attractive and undeniably talented British actor who has kept to the periphery of American film productions, Colin Firth most recently captured the attention of the movie-going public as the swoon-worthy Mark Darcy in Bridget Jones' Diary. An actor who almost seems to specialize in literary adaptations, he has also appeared in the 1997 adaptation of Nick Hornby's novel Fever Pitch, the Academy Award�-winning film translation of Michael Ondaajte's The English Patient, and Oscar Wilde's popular play The Importance of Being Earnest. Possibly his most famous performance, though, is his BAFTA-nominated turn as Mr. Darcy in the BBC miniseries Pride and Prejudice, based on Jane Austen's wonderful novel first published in 1813. It seems only logical, then, that Firth's next role would be in another book-to-film adaptation, this one based on Charles Richard Webb's first novel in over two decades. Most famous for writing The Graduate, the author's recently published New Cardiff was adapted for the screen by director/writer Mark Herman (Little Voice), and recommended to Firth by his friend - you guessed it - Nick Hornby, who wrote High Fidelity and About a Boy, in addition to the aforementioned Fever Pitch. For its theatrical release, the movie will be renamed Hope Springs, and is a romantic comedy about a British artist named Colin (yes, Colin) whose fianc�e (Minnie Driver) dumps him by sending him an invitation to her upcoming wedding�to someone else. Broken-hearted and despondent, he boards a plane for the United States and winds up in a tiny New England town called Hope. Though he is depressed, Colin soon finds an attractive shoulder to cry on when the innkeeper (Mary Steenburgen) introduces him to Mandy, a local nurse (Heather Graham). As he begins to find happiness again, his scheming ex-girlfriend shows up with reconciliation on her mind and a surprising story to tell. The movie was filmed in British Columbia, and promises to have some lush cinematography along with the potential for some very fine performances. Here's hoping the quality is there and we see Disney give it a nice push come awards time. (Kim Hollis/BOP)

Yeah, the caterers line (from the Angelika interview) is new. Cute though. Thanks Mari for posting the link. (Pam) But I must say the highlight so far is Rocky Horror P&P2 We got a good start on a sequel to this on Spoilers for BJD as I recall. ;-D (BOP) An incredibly attractive and undeniably talented British actor who has kept to the periphery of American film productions I believe we have the 'diamond in the rough' strategy at work. I do like the focus of this critique though. It is all about Colin vs. the movie. Can't beat that. ;-D (BOP) Here's hoping the quality is there and we see Disney give it a nice push come awards time. *Gulping* Whatever is she talking about? GGs, maybe?? Thanks for the find, Dorine.

Hello, everybody! Yet another lurker comes out of the woodwork. I've been lurking here for a few weeks. I started at RoP, kept reading references to "Drool" in the archives, and finally managed to find a link in an archived discussion that brought me here. I regret not finding you a long time ago. After P&P2 first aired, I was the only person I knew who suffered from Darcymania or Firthmania. With no one to drool with about him, I'm lucky I didn't spontaneously combust! P&P has been my favorite book for ages - I've been in love with Mr. Darcy since I was about 13 - but CF as Darcy is far better than any of my girlish (or otherwise) daydreams. I've been reading some of the older topics here, which has been an entertaining way to get to know you a bit and to learn the acronyms, but finally I just couldn't stand it anymore and had to join the fray. I think finally getting my very own copy of the BJD DVD last weekend pushed me over the edge. I'm already getting good at skipping through the movie and stopping at just the right places, so as to see as little of DC, and as much of MD, as possible. Mmmmmmmm. I wanted to contribute a report on TIOBE in Richmond, Virginia. I live in the Washington, DC, area, but I was in Richmond earlier this week for a conference, so I decided to see the movie during my trip rather than dragging DH to it. I wound up seeing it both Monday and Tuesday evenings. 50-60 people attended each night (7:30 pm show), with a wide age range. The response seemed positive though not overwhelming. JD got the most laughs, but ODB got just as much as RE did (especially at the "passionate celibacy" line). There was a smattering of applause at the end on Monday. On Tuesday I sat in front of a group of women I hoped would turn out to be Firthettes, but no such luck... they seemed more familiar with Reese Witherspoon than anyone else in the cast.

WELCOME TO RIKA, HOLA LOLA, FANPAM AND ALL OTHER RECENT DE-LURKERS Glad to see you have posted....Don't slide back into oblivion. From one who rarely has anything worthwhile to say, but can't keep her mouth shut, glad you're here. BTW, do you like FF??? Topic 159 and the Archives may have something that will tickle your fancy! :)))))

(Rika)After P&P2 first aired, I was the only person I knew who suffered from Darcymania or Firthmania I think we all felt like that after discovering the many pleasures of CF. Then you somehow find your way and land here at Spring. I often liken the experience to Dorothy landing in OZ. She thinks she's alone and then all the munchkins(Firthettes)begin popping out of their hiding places, crouching and giggling. I often think of CF that way too. Except I see him as having to be pushed down the yellow brick road to Emerald City (the land of movie roles.)

Oops,I almost forgot*crouching and giggling*: WELCOME RIKA!

Rika!! I know the feeling about not being able to merely read the Boards without wanting to jump into the fray. When I first found this place, many years ago, there was a technical glitch and no one was dealing with it. But did I ever hound them to get it fixed so that I could post! (Rika) I've been in love with Mr. Darcy since I was about 13 - but CF as Darcy is far better than any of my girlish (or otherwise) daydreams. Ain't that the truth. ;-D

I think it was awhile back that Dorine mentioned how posts from years ago seemed to fortell the future. I went back and read some of #97, and I have to admit the Valmont discussion seems to explain an awful lot about CF's choice of movie rolls (the whys vs the why nots). There are also v.interesting remarks made in reference to the "location, location, location" side of things that we have recently come to find ourselves intrigued by. ;) Is nothing new??!!!!!!! So, in honour of all you that have been with this for, oh, what is it now...5-6 years? I pay tribute with this: :-.)

BTW welcome all new delurkers! (sorry so late)

Hi Rika Glad you jumped right in to give us a report on TIOBE.

(lindak)Except I see him as having to be pushed down the yellow brick road to Emerald City (the land of movie roles.) I know what you mean, he can be a rather reluctant deb--oops! movie star. Saw TIOBE in NY yesterday. Rainy day, not a big audience, but they did laugh. It seems Judi Dench got more laughs than anyone. Now that TIOBE is in multiplexes, I'm hoping it may get more spontaneous viewers--people who do the "what's at the movies?" think often check the listings for the multis, not the little theaters. Karen, back during the time of the NY premiere at the Paris, didn't you say that BJD premiered in NY at the Ziegfeld because Miramax owns that one? I think it's now a Clearview (chain of multis in NY and 'burbs). Maybe that's why the premiere was at the Paris? BTW, I think ODB's answer to the tailor was "left," based on the duet scene. the tailor would probably be disappointed, because the tailoring is supposed to allow for that, making it more difficult to discern. Will see TIOBE again this evening, with friends who taught English lit. Should lead to interesting discussions. I'll put my new observations on TIOBE on spoilers. Welcome, delurkers all!

I'm spending money today. :) Amazon is showing that a Valmont DVD will be released on September 17. O frabjous day!

For those looking to buy the Valmont DVD - it's cheaper at www.deepdiscountdvd.com and they offer free shipping and handling withing the continental US. Have not been able to find out any info on DVD extras for this one, but it is in widescreen format.

er... within not withing! Trying to type too fast... sorry.

Hmmmmm... only included "extra" seems to be the orginal movie trailer. You'd think they might get Colin to do a voiceover track, knowing that his newfound popularity is the reason they're releasing it on DVD in the first place...

Welcome, Rika! I lurked for a long time, but finally had to break my silence. It's *much* more fun that way!:-) 50-60 people on a weeknight for TIOBE is great. (Linda)I often liken the experience to Dorothy landing in OZ. She thinks she's alone and then all the munchkins(Firthettes)begin popping out of their hiding places, crouching and giggling. Do you mean crotching and giggling?;-) I love this analogy, Linda! As for the Emerald City, it seems ODB has been compelled by circumstances to "there's no place like home.";-) If he only had the noyve . . .;-)

I scoured both of today's Sydney papers for a mention of TIOBE premiere - no luck. There is an article on SMH online today, though. As expected, mostly about FO'C, and very little about TIOBE. For those of you who need the translation, "hard yakka" means "hard work"...

(Mari)Do you mean crotching and giggling?;-) Of course that's what I meant, but I really didn't mean it...it is Sunday,Mari, and I'm trying to be good today. I look at it this way you can crotch or crouch-whatever turns you on. Enough! I'm going to church.

Hi Everyone, Thank you for welcome, and welcome to all new delurkers! Question. I've watched FP several times this week and perhaps I'm seeing an edited version, but is the first time they are alone together the night of parents night when she says he can stay the night or did they have some out of school thing before that, and even my son wanted to know, how does he know she's pregnant? (unless he keeps a calendar of course) the only clue I could see was at the football match when she protects her stomach and he notices that. Are there any other clues I'm missing? Thanks. Love his character in that. Have spent all weekend watching him. Including my favorite Mr. Darcy. Love Valmont but can't stand that he dies. He wasn't so terribly bad, his counterpart was horrific, guess that means good acting job. It's like he was so despondent at the end, he just gave up. Loved MLSF especially last scene when he watches son. The smile and reactions amazing. Didn't like the wife. To me didn't seem a physical match. Good stuff. Have a couple more to watch today. Can't find a better way to enjoy myself.

(FanPam)the only clue I could see was at the football match when she protects her stomach and he notices that. Are there any other clues I'm missing? No, you're not missing any clues. I was v.confused about that when I first watched FP. I recently bought the screen play, and there are several references to Paul noticing Sarah is protecting her stomach. Before that scene, (in the screen play-but not in the film) he notices that she is looking very ill and pale, and he asks her if she is ok. Then he watches as she protects her stomach. Later, in the same scene, after Arsenal scores,(according to the director's note)Sarah tries to look pleased, but she just looks scared. She is desperately trying to protect her stomach, once again Paul notices. Paul: are you ok? Sarah: Yeah fine. Then according to the screen play, Paul stares at her and she looks away and smiles. I liked the screen play because it gives all the directors notes and you understand what's going on a little better. It also notes the scenes that have been cut. I wish several of them had been left in they would have been fun to watch as well as help the understanding of certain situations.

Great news about the Valmont DVD! And I can recommend deepdiscountdvd highly. Thanks Elizabeth and Jane. (Mari) If he only had the noyve . . .;-) But the yellow brick road isn't a Tube stop. ;-D Nice article about F'OC. It does show promise though, as Colin is her only co-star to be mentioned and/or quoted. (Pam) perhaps I'm seeing an edited version, but is the first time they are alone together the night of parents night when she says he can stay the night Yup. There's only one version of this one to my knowledge. the only clue I could see was at the football match when she protects her stomach and he notices that That was always my take on it, although there was considerable discussion about this point. The camera focuses in on her stomach and Paul asks if she's ok. The screenplay completely supports this viewpoint. At the beginning of this scene, there's the description: "Sarah looks white and sick. Paul notices her distress." [at first you are supposed to think it is merely the crowd situation as she is supposed to be "clutching at him, terrified of the crowd surges"]. Then a bit later, it says: The crowd cascades down the terrace. Sarah tries to look pleased, but just looks scared; she is desperately trying to protect her stomach. Once again Paul notices. Paul: Are you OK? Sarah: Yeah, fine. Paul stares at her. She smiles and looks away. I intend to put the edited versions of the Spring Film Discussions back up on firth.com to make it easier to read than via the hard-to-load older topics.