http://www.yearling.com/data/yearling/externals/ivanhoe-feat.html This is the link to Ivanhoe I have tried four times to get this right.This is the last time till tomorrow. SW-his name is spelt two ways on the net, it seems, has turned up a lot on my T.V. in the last year.RSC trained, great bod, ski-run nose( I like) and looks better scruffy, imho.No-one has to drool with me here, I'll be happy on my own, but if anyone can post some pictures, I'll be very grateful.

It worked!Amy, I have already thanked you four times but they were lost in the ether. This time it should show.

Caroline, is this the man who was seen in the Ivanhoe previews shown last night during Emma? If so, I see some definate possibilites here! Scruffy indeed! ;-) Was also pleased to see that our Cairan Hinds will be in it as well! A twofer! ;-)

Cheryl, with Mr W, CH and Christopher Lee in it, I won't know whose side to be on!And if you are looking to see Mr W naked/wet/sweaty/ suffering then you should look up "Edward II" by Chris. Marlowe. It's a very nasty story, though and I wouldn't want to drool over his character at all!But a very well-done movie, nonetheless. Of course, he is also naked and wet in "Carrington"- even nearly falls in the river! Then he's a sailor in "1492" but there, Gerard takes over, I'm afraid. And if anyone saw "Resort to Murder", a modern thriller set in Brighton(yes) then he was Neville, the hero's cheeky sidekick with an expression like a labrador puppy up to mischief, and three-day stubble. A dark-eyed strawberry blond man. yummy. Yes, he's the lead in Ivanhoe too.Might even induce me to attempt to read Sir Walter Scott again.

Caroline: Of course, he is also naked and wet in "Carrington"- even nearly falls in the river! well, I may finally have to break down and rent that movie! ;-)

I thought he looked a little like Errol Flynn. Did anyone else see this resemblence?

Cheryl, I felt like I would never want to bother with Carrinton. Then I heard that Jeremy had a part in it. However, before we ever see Mr. Northam there is Mr. W, wet and naked. Drool indeed.

I thought he looked a little like Errol Flynn. Did anyone else see this resemblence? No, Carolyn, I cannot say that I have.Please give me more directions on this. I will make it a project if you like;-)

That Carrington stuff seems to be very nourishing...! My inclination to rent it gets stronger by the hour. And another Ivanhoe, never heard of it; we are a bit behind up north, have not had a chance to view The English Patient yet. But we have no polar bears on streets and we can read and write...

Ann2, dear, I heard you had polar bears who could read and write.

I'm confused, which is not surprising. Did SW play Carrington's husband? The beefy, burly, brawny, adonis, the one who ended up hooking up with Alex Kingston? I have seen in twice, and very recently. Actually the most shocking scene was the one with JN and ET on the boat and he Behind her. I never expected to see ET do a role like that. She always seems so virginal.

]No, Carolyn, I cannot say that I have.Please give me more directions on this. I will make it a project if you like;-) It may have been just the beard and the (short) haircut, but he reminded me of Errol Flynn in Robin Hood. I have never heard of him before seeing the A&E "Behind the Scenes" segment.

Yes Laura, you have him nailed. He is the reason I watched Carrington, and the reason why JN didn't even register with me.

SW looked extremely sexy and i first took notice in Last of the Mohicans, however he kept his clothes on in that one.

I knew I had a reason to watch thet movie again;-D

I come over here to drool quietly where no-one is looking. I actually have some pictures to put up now, but they don't seem to want to transfer, inspite of Donna's help. Oh, well, try again tomorrow.

I come over here to drool quietly where no-one is looking. I actually have some pictures to put up now, but they don't seem to want to transfer, inspite of Donna's help. Oh, well, try again tomorrow.

Pictures time : brought to you by Carolineevans, scriptor/researcher to the stars Ivanhoe Last of the Mohicans Carrington

Merci, mon ange, de mon p'tit gar!C'est dommage quand-meme que ces photos ne le flatte pas. Je ne sais pas pourquoi l'inforoute ne fait honneur a un homme si beau, mais au fond, c'est peutetre avantage de le garder chez nous!(je m'excuse de ne pas utiliser mes codes ascii, ils sont encore disparu.)

Pourrions-nous lui faire honneur? As mentionned, these pictures are not doing him honor at all, him being such an handsome man. Should anybody has some lovelier pictures, do not hesitate in sending them to me to be scanned and return. I'll gladly put them up on the board at your wishes. Pleasure love :)

Johanne, do you have a scanner?

Hubby at work does, and am in possession of zillions of regency costumes pictures to be shown in new page-now in the making :) May I be of any assistance in this department Amy, be glad to :)

Thanks, Jo, I can't think of anything at the moment, but it's nice to know you can do it. Can't wait to see the page. Hey, speaking of period clothing, are you aware of a device that was used a little later in the 19th century, when waltzing came in, to hook the skirt to the ladies wrist for better clearance from the floor?

Amy, I have seen such a device on victorian costumes in the V&A museum in London. Sometimes it's a little clip thing, like a clothes-pin, attatched to one glove, somtimes it hangs from the waist on a ribbon- not very satisfactory, i think. I know modern ballroom-dancers usually use just a loop of fine cord or ribbon, which can be quickly looped over a button-less obtrusive, easier to do.

Oh, good. Caroline. Thank you. I thought I was dreaming it.

Been doing a bit of checking around, Amy, most of the paper around 1880 til 1900 like the Moniteur de Paris mention that a lady holds her trained skirt in a very skilled manner but I've seen a loop of fine cord or ribbon before hidden under a row of frill. Have to look again for the clip

Is the thing at the bottom of the front of the lady's dress in this pic something like that? (It can't be the tip of her shoe...)

Looks more like where a shoe should be, this type of ball gown would not require an attachment of any kind. When the flaired gore skirt (re)appeared in 1879, usually as trained skirt, the hoop would have been on the back side, 3/4 in the back, I believe. Here is a two pieces evening dress from Worth, dated 1890 more like this 1875 morning dress : or this 1875-76 afternoon dress :

Meet me at ramble to continue this, shall we let this space to Mr. Waddington?

Johanne -- The Hippopotamus Polka thing is from about 1850, and the little pointy thing doesn't really look like the tip of her shoe to me.. Looks more like a little weight or something, hanging from the lower hem...

looks kind of square, yes, but what we are looking for should be in the back...or on the side...

I love that white morning dress from 1875, response #28. Johanne, let's start a new topic for this stuff in Austen. Now I really can't wait for you to get your page up. Maybe you ought to have your own conference, even.

Happy thoughts indeed, Amy, way not enough time :) but nothing is impossible :)

BTW, for the die-hard fan, this white dress is for sale : #C2012. MORNING DRESS (C.1875) White batiste 2 piece "breakfast" dress. Trained underskirt & slightly bustled over-dress trimmed with self ruffle edged with handmade Valenciennes lace. Over dress has several ivory silk ribbon bows down front center & on sleeves. Very good condition. $575.00 Check the link for other pieces : http://www.victoriana.com/antiques/costum2.html

I don't dare check the link, Johanne, I'm looking for somthing to wear to a Mess Dinner, but I cannot afford that!

Do you have little mouses whom could sew for you or are you skillfull in the art of garment-making, if so let me share with you some of my regency patterns :)

little mouses? like Cinderella, perhaps? :)

like the tailor of Gloucester (recent acquisition for Laurence :) ) Don't you love Gus and Jack? Yes, those dress are not very afordable and would certainly not fit me ! Great to look at tought

I loved peeking at the link, Johanne! However, making it up would be expensive enough, eh?

Depends with what, if you use simple cotton muslin, would'nt be that bad, 5 or 6 meter possibly, nothing to extravagant. BTW Cindy, received your e-mail, glad you're interested, am now listing what is available and some pictures will be available too, I'll let you know tomorrow for sure

In the time of swords and periwigs and full-skirted coats with flowered lappets- when gentlemen wore ruffles, and gold-laced waistcoats of paduasoy and taffeta-there lived a tailor in Gloucester............no more twist......Ther is a video of this , read by Meryl Streep, with music by the Chieftains, produced by f.h.e, a company out of Montreal....... Johanne I make my own patterns, sometimes (comes of having a mother and gandmother both trained tailors) WE gotta talk about this.... when less teachers get sick, so I don't work every day:-)

Found a WONDERFUL muslin, yellow, $3.95 a metre tha other day in IKEA(quite made up for TEP, actually!)

BIG thanks, Johanne! I'll be anxious to see!

Yellow-taffeta, yellow taffeta and cherry colored twist Bought the tape when in Boston, a BBC version, to think there is one from around here !! So many things, so little time...

Johanne what do the patterns look like? How do they work? Are they drawings on a grid? How did they use them back then?

We can continue the discussion of dresses at a new topic in the Austen conference: New topic

I know it's been a while since this topic on Steven has been addressed, but is anyone out there still interested? I just found this site. No one could possibly be as crazy for this most beautiful gentleman as I am!! He's been the center of my heart and my world since 1992. I own any movie and anything with him I can get my hands on. Like Sylvia, I too first fell for him in Mohicans. I know he's in the up-coming new Tarzan movie from Warner Bros. Does anyone have any photos or articles on him they c uld email me from any source? Has anyone heard of a fan club for Steven? Any info would be most appreciated! Or just email if you want a fellow SW "drool" partner to chat with!!

Well hello .. a Stephen Waddington conf... luvverly .... He is so wonderful in Carrington ...but has anyone seen Edward II ...now that is something a little off the beaten track .... Actually when I first saw him in Carrington I thought ...,..aagh huh...another of those beautiful blond himbo types English period movies are renowned for but after his intial scenes he really becomes a dynamic character and he acts it sooooo well! Then I realised he was EII....and it clicked. His EII is pure theatre and under the late Derek Jarman's direction the film is quite extraordinary (not for the faint of heart though) and worth seeking out. Anyway just thought I would add my 2 cents worth! cb PS: For Carrington trivia fans Gerald Brenan (played by Samuel West) is still alive (or was at least until very recently)....and is a major and highly respected essayist on Spanish literature.