Elena, I don't think Allison or anybody is laughing at your views. Actually, most of us would agree with you in many ways. A little mystery is always good. Like the Arizona test audience, we don't *need* to see Kevin's penis or anybody else's for that matter. (horrible images in my mind of Harvey Keitel in The Piano...can there be anything less sexy than a flaccid penis??) However, we do like to fantacize and catching glimpses (or imagining glimpses) can be better than the real thing. ;-D

horrible images in my mind of Harvey Keitel in The Piano I�ve seen it at least twice but I don�t remember seeing any sort of penis in it, my mind must have deleted it?! imagining glimpses) can be better than the real thing In CF�s case the real thing must be better than any imagined glimpses though :-D (Okay I�m badly off topic here, sorry Kevin fans!)

In CF�s case the real thing must be better than any imagined glimpses though :-D Agreed, but I was pretending to be more couth than I actually am! ;-D You're talking to a member of the "I've seen Nessie" club!! I�ve seen it at least twice but I don�t remember seeing any sort of penis in it, my mind must have deleted it?! It was very small, easy to miss. ;-D

Well, Elena. I think I was heartily agreeing with you when I said in an earlier post that I had no desire to see KC's penis. And yes, if it ever does appear onscreen, I will likely close my eyes, Evelyn, given enough warning. I believe it would be futile to debate in this forum the measure of KC's acting talent against Ms. Winger's or anyone else's. It's equivalent to debating if chocolate ice-cream is better than strawberry. Each viewer will formulate his own opinions. I have always maintained that KC is a mediocre, albeit an improving, actor. But it has never been his skill at the craft that appeals to me. Beyond the face, I admire his diligence, his integrity, his love for his children, his charisma and his courage. For skill, I go look for Ralph Fiennes or Anthony Hopkins. And I do miss Debra Winger. She isn't Meryl Streep, but she has her own flavor of charisma that was always a joy to watch.

Evelyn, we have a date to see whatever there is of him. I am from New York (many years ago, now) and we never lose our need to know and see...and touch if we are lucky! ;)

Costner is in the groove!! Kev delivers the heat!! I've just come back from seeing "For Love of the Game" and it's a wonderful baseball movie and the love story portion worked for me. The audience adored it. You know when a sports film works when the audience is on the edge of its collective seat and breaks out in applause when various plays are made during the game. The movie is closer to The Natural with a lot of Bull Durham (although no kitchen table or bathtub scenes). While it came in at slightly over 2 hrs (maybe by 10 minutes), there wasn't a boring bit at all. Yes, of course, any and all baseball movies are formulaic, but this one had you wondering whether they were going to do something (but I won't say what). So they were successful in keeping up the suspense. I liked that the action basically takes place over the course of ONE game, with flashback sequences. That is one helluva game and Kev throws one helluva good game. Charlotte (and Nan, if you're out there), you are going to love it. Guys will love it as well because the baseball is great. Hey! The movie IS shorter than a baseball game!! ;-D

And I have a bunch of the posters (smaller sized)....

See, I knew that Kev didn't have to deliver the meat to deliver the heat in a baseball movie. He played baseball for Cal-State Northridge...it's just a "Natural" (sorry, Roy Hobbs).

Wait until you hear question no. 3 (hee hee)

Oooh, I gotta see it. Love baseball, and loved FoD. As for Northridge, that is where O'O's brother and family lives...and the earthquake happened. hmmm...! (but it would have been interesting like in HOTPig and TA, if they had had two different versions for the truly curious and for the rest of you!)

Good Picture, Karen. Thanks!!! Can't wait to hear it all!

John, do you think O'O would let you go see it with me?!?

It was fun seeing the roles reversed from Bull Durham. At one point toward the end (9th inning to be precise), he's talking to himself about the batter and says something like "don't think, just throw like you've done millions of time before." Remember Crash's words to whatshisname?

I can't figure out where the beef scene would have been. All evidence of it has been excised. Maybe when he gets his massage, the towel is lifted... ;-D

Nuke Laloosh (played by the brilliant Tim Robbins). I'd love to go see the movie. Maybe I could go with both of you...I don't think that Ray would believe there's anything between us, but I haven't seen his "O" side, and don't want to.

His best parts were left on the cutting room floor?! Alas! Auwe! How Ghastly!

It was supposed to have been a full frontal shower scene.

I'm bummed!!!

Nice pics, Karen. They don't want to make me drool, but do want to make me see the movie. It doesn't open here until Friday, and I'm broke until Monday (payday).

Nuke!! of course. Was going to get the tape out, but am lazy... Marcia, this isn't a FoD. It's a Bull Durham-The Natural crossbreed.

Nice pics, Karen. They don't make me want to drool, but do make me want to see the movie. Unfortunately, it doesn't open in this beautiful little one-horse town until Friday...and I won't have the $$$$ until Monday (payday for both my jobs).

I saw it for free. Shower scene? There weren't any. Wonder if it was a locker room shower scene or one with Kelly...

John, you convince Ray to let you take me and I pay for everything!

OoooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOoooOOoooooooOoooooooooooHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Nice!

Great pics!

Would I have to convince him I'm gay? Maybe the "Weird Walt" would do that.

Listen, if he thinks the seemingly never been anything'd forbidden fruit person is a threat, who knows. But, I am sure he would think you a friend rather than a threat...I think...(who knows?!) That man is so odd about these things.

I could lend you a silky scarf with which to gesticulate as you read the Ballad of Weird Walt to him. You did thay you had a peech impediment, no?!

If he considers someone as innocuous as Alton (brilliant yes, but no threat) a threat...I don't wish to risk his wrath. Remember, despite our friendship, I do like him, as well.

I just saw the Postman, I liked it just like I liked Waterworld. It has kind of the same fascination. And Costner always has interesting female costars.

Good pics Karen, thanks.He does look dreamy. So, you let the Arizona audience dictate what you can see in Chicago, uh? Too bad....we coulda'had a spirited discussion .....:-D

So, you let the Arizona audience dictate what you can see in Chicago, uh? Where'd you get that idea? ;-D I liked the movie "as-is." Whether I thought the shower scene in full-frontedness worked is moot, as we will never see it. Come to think of it, I don't recall seeing any of the ballplayers *adjusting* themselves. Hey, this was a sanitized movie!!

Showing the beef...must be "in" This from Reuters review of SUNSHINE starring Ralph Fiennes..... Re: RF "....Yet for all his physical fearlessness (two sequences include full frontal nudity, and some of the sex is rough), there are more sparks than fire, leaving an essential void and chill where the passion should be." (Wonder if the "rough sex" is with JE?)

Do you mean we have to look at more of RF than we have already seen in TEP? Yeesh!!!

Not until it comes out on video. I'd bet that Sunshine, much like the solar commodity it was named after, doesn't even make it to Hilo. Haven't even heard of the movies, and Reuters is a European news service. Is "JE" Jenna Elfman?

Nope! Jennifer Ehle, CF's co-star in P&P2

(She is also Rosemary Harris' daughter)

Didn't see P&P2 and don't know who either Jennifer Ehle or Rosemary Harris is. Am not much for Austen (or most Gothic novelists). My ignorance shows, but I did ask, so thank you for the answer.

Evelyn will be delighted to get out her pictures! JE is not as rare in the theater and movies as one might think...and you missed something truly wonderful when you passed up P&P2. May I lend you the video? I would be delighted to, and it is not a chick-flick!

That I WOULD have to see to believe.

BTW, before I get totally crucified here, I have seen WOMEN'S MOVIES and BOOKS that I HAVE enjoyed...Waiting to Exhale and The Joy Luck Club come to mind immediately. I generally find British romantic drama dreary, although I love their comedy, but if you recommend it, Marcia, I will rent or borrow it and try to view it with as open mind as possible (considering I am equipped with the "dumb stick").

OK, next volleyball game (if you do not sleep through it) I will hand one of my precious copies (I have many including an all Firth tape of DROOL passages from the movie.)

I'll pass on the Firthian drool, but the movie itself, I'll watch.

and btw, Austen is not a *gothic* novelist; just so you don't make that mistake in the future Trust me, you (Mr. Mariah Carey or was it Jennifer Lopez Fan??) will like Jennifer's assets. :-D

Thank you for correcting my continued ignorance. I am truly humbled in your presence.

Spring is very educational. We believe in having a well-rounded education, even if we hardly set foot outside the sacred halls of Drool. ;-D

Lizzie's attributes almost fall into your lap as you watch, do they not?! ('twas Mariah Carey)

Karen, it is not as user friendly "out there." People attack one another and not always with a smile. I am always happy to retreat to the sanctity of Drool.

And I'll gladly retreat my ignorance outside the sacred sanctity of your hallowed halls. I was incorrect--check that--wrong to lump Austen with the other romance novelists of her period (whom she paroied in Northanger Abbey), but beyond that, I don't know what made me think I might have something to contribute. Beyond my boot-licking, crow eating humility, my apologies as well. Aloha. :-)

If you're logged on to the Spring right now, go to our website and see a *live* video of Kevin Costner at his world movie permiere. I'm not kidding, we're webcasting this event as it occurs.

Auggie Garrido, our UT baseball coach is responsible for getting Costner and this premiere to Austin last night. In the interviews, Garrido said Costner threw every pitch in the movie, and had no doubles. The movie got a great review in the morning paper and a mixed review on Sammy and Bobs radio show. Bob liked it, Sammy hated it. The paper said oddball, foreign movie enthusiasts will hate it, mainstream moviegoers will love it. It will have to be great to beat Bull Durham. Opening everywhere else tonight.

Both Chicago critics (Ebert & Wilmington) gave it a bad review. Ebert hated the baseball and the love story; Wilmington, the love story. These guys are too jaded up there in Toronto watching festival films. Ha!!

Poor John Burnett! Come back.....

The Oscars (impressions): First impression: J Lo's form fitting top was not quite see through. J. Lo on the red carpet: Angelina Joie looked cool but I expected her to be escorted by John Long for Billy Joe Thornton. What was Danny DeVito eating? A carrot? That was funny when Steve Martin sent him down some dip from the stage. Worst dressed and worst singer: Bjork, who wore a huge, limp swan. On second thought, wasn't that Kevin Costner sitting next to Angelina Jolie? Biggest dissappointment: Joan Allen and Ellen Burstyn not winning.