a terrible thought struck my mind: P&P has not yet been remade for the screen in the really big fashion .....! Eeeeeek! I am terrified at the mere thought what they can do to it Eons ago, I vaguely recall an even vaguer reference to the vaguest of possibilities of a big screen version of P&P, with..... (wait for it!)...Rob Lowe as Mr Darcy! Just thought I'd ruin your weekend. Or your life! :-) Well done HF! We'll await the big screen version of BJD, but no tampering with Mark Darcy!

I have just finished viewing a tape of BAFTA Awards '98 and in the intoduction honoring the 50th Anniversary of BAFTA, they showed scenes of films. I noted two flashes (blink and they 're gone ) of FP, The kiss after setting down the coffee cup and the Big Cheer in slo mo when Arsenal scores. Not much, but at least CF's screen skills were acknowledged.

Renate I'm having problems with netaddress and emailing (temporary I hope!) Have sent info and contact address.

Actually, shouldn't this be Colin Firth - Part III

I know I'm a ten bob short of a pound:)))

Actually, shouldn't this be Colin Firth - Part III Why Part III? When I count the CF boards it would be Part VII - it's 8 boards we have flooded so far: #42, #51, #52, #59, #67, #68, #97, #98. :-)) Did I forget one?

I'm surprised the man doesn't have an ego problem with all these boards on him alone;) Lucky guy:)

(renate)it's 8 boards we have flooded so far: #42, #51, #52, #59, #67, #68, #97, #98. :-)) Did I forget one? How about 53? (lauraMM)I'm surprised the man doesn't have an ego problem with all these boards on him alone;) LOL! I tried to post my own three favourite photos but can't :-( One question: does the current trend in these discussions at this time warrant the existence of two different boards?

Damn! Did I forget to close the italics tag?

Guess I did :-)

Go to give your votes: http://www.celebritystars.com/ Then go down the page to "Fans Top 100 Favourite Actors". I am usually not very fond of this kind of contests, because it's ALWAYS George Clooney or Brad Pitt. But unless the GC fan club starts an attack we can to it :-)). Last week's result show Colin on #37 right after George Clooney with #38. :-). You can vote only once per week, but every week again! Go to it!

(Gi) One question: does the current trend in these discussions at this time warrant the existence of two different boards? I am personally in favor of keeping the film discussions separate from "anything pertaining to Colin " which is 97. And 68, Colin Drool seems to have its own life. But I leave it up to our Reverend Leader.

EVERYBODY VOTE. I just did and Colin is # 2. Right behind and only 1 vote away from George Clooney. HURRY!

But I leave it up to our Reverend Leader. LOL! I don't think Reverends are allowed to drool ;-p As we've seen from past board overloads, it is terribly difficult to follow a conversation when there is only one Colin board. The dear fellow is so popular that it became necessary to break up the conversation four ways. Yes, it's a bit of a pain having to move between boards, but it is still easier than digging (and seeing the board collapse). I think we'll keep it as is, now that we're all used to it :-)

EVERYBODY VOTE I just did, I think. CF was no2 with 37 votes before I voted and still no 2 with 37 votes after!!! I followed the instructions and filled out the form correctly. Has it been nobbled by George Clooney fans?

Re: Voting I think they might only update the votes once a week. So it might take until this weekend or perhaps Monday to see the results of our efforts to move him up out of perpetual second place. That is, unless that site is rigged!! :-)

I voted!!! for George Clooney;) hee hee NOT. our DB Mr. Ego himself, with about 9 boards to his name... (RIMSHOT, PLEASE) Mr. Colin Firth. Any idea if he has a middle name, initial, etc...

I voted... and did you see that CF is the most popular actor voted on this week?? They must be totally bewildered... CF outranking Leo? who is this Colin Firth??

who is this Colin Firth?? ] Oh, some guys with 9 boards to his credit:) hee hee.

#42, #51, #52, #59, #67, #68, #97, #98. :-)) Did I forget one? How about 53? Ooops, my fault. Meant #53. Guess #52 must be dedicated to someone else. (Allison hey, where-have-you-been?:)CF was no2 with 37 votes before I voted and still no 2 with 37 votes after!!! They say somewhere on the page that they update weekly, each Monday, I believe. And then you can / *must* go back and vote again! (Kate) They must be totally bewildered... CF outranking Leo? who is this Colin Firth?? I imagine them to do a search for CF and finding the meanderings of the Firth pages, and they go on and go on and no end ..8-o.... Can't help but giggle. I have left a message offering my help if they are looking for another picture.... That Santa picture surely does not explain anything - I love it, but I guess it's rather for the die-hard fans. Let them figure it out .... :-))

Who is this Colin Firth? Not really news ( but in a time of famine, even crumbs count!).......there's a lot about David Puttnam (producer of MLSF) in the British press this week, mainly because he wasn't appointed Deputy Governor of the BBC (despite popular support from BBC staff) but has been appointed to head something called NESTA, to promote creative arts (and sciences) into the millenium. There was a brief mention of MLSF, but no dates. Anyway the whole point of this, is that when MLSF does open, I think it will attract a lot of respectful attention in the UK at least. Puttnam seems to be highly regarded for his dedication to creativity and to promoting good values (as opposed to just chasing huge profits). Another point......most Miramax films are premiered at film festivals (not in competition), well before the official general release date. For example, Wings of a Dove was shown at the Venice Film Festival, then had a Charity premiere in London, and opened a couple of months later. Same goes for Emma and Sliding Doors. It might be worthwhile keeping an eye on the festivals for MLSF. There, told you it wasn't NEWS, not really!! :-)

Bethan, anything of interest in a magazine called Woman's Journal? Apparently their review of ATA was good.

(Bethan)Not really news ( but in a time of famine, even crumbs count!). More in that vein. Our local freebie magazine has an article by the editor of International Who's Who. He reveals that this year's new entries include Jacques Villeneuve, Honor Fraser, Prince William and.... Colin Firth!

(Bethan)Not really news ( but in a time of famine, even crumbs count!). Bethan keep an eye on the Edinburgh Festival which I think is immenint. I seem to recall that MLSF was made with Scottish Government Funds. They might want to feature the film and secure their investment. Just a shot in the dark!

Woman's Journal Arami, I didn't see the Women's Journal review, but I did actually see a few favourable reviews of ATA....they weren't all bad. I just got incensed by some unecessarily disparaging comments about CF! What surprised me, though, was the total absence of any promotion (interviews etc) by the two stars. ATA had got star power, an award winning novel, King Lear etc.....it could have been marketed. Harrison Ford's latest got absolutely lousy reviews but was well promoted and topped the box office charts. (Ditto no doubt, Godzilla!) I still want to see ATA. Let me know please, anyone, when it comes out on video in Europe! International Who's Who 98/99 Aha! There's our chance to find out his middle name (if he has one!) and hobbies! Provided that he has submitted full details, that is! Does anyone have access to a public/reference library with a decent budget (ie new books!)? Middle name.....I still think there could be a Scottish connection...Andrew, Gordon, Hamish? Edinburgh Film Festival Evelyn, you're quite right, Edinburgh would be a very appropriate venue, although I think it's regarded as one of the smaller festivals.

Forgot to mention, Shakespeare in Love has its own (unofficial, I think) website. The URL link doesn't seem to work, but you can find it by searching on www.webcrawler.com Shakespeare in Love

Bethan, the link is interesting enough, even if there are no real news, we know there is a crew ..... and the Shakespeare links are very interesting, btw. I'll try to post the link. Shakespeare in Love (plus a lot of links)

International Who's Who 98/99 I'll bet any amount that he will not disclose his middle name, even if he has one, and that he will say he has no hobbies (due to no time), only interests: acting, reading (especially when studying/researching for acting), maybe some light music and almost certainly family. It used to be principally his son, but now that he's married, he will call it something like family life.

International Who's Who 98/99 He has an entry in "People of Today", another Debrett publocation. He gives no second name and lists no recreations. Interestingly, no mention of Will but Debrett presumably only accepts those born the right side of the blanket. How that musy irk him!

'scuse typos. It's too early in the morning for me.

Friday July 17 PEOPLE MAGAZINE On-Line HOTTEST MEN, UK-STYLE The Top-10 Sexiest Men in the World (as voted by female readers of Britain's Sun tabloid And CF wasn't even mentioned. Shocking!!

And he seems to have been completely dropped by the site we voted on earlier this week - can't even cast a vote for him any more.

I am not at all surprised that Sun readers did not vote for him. He would not have been flattered if they had.

Re MOM I would say that it was shot without makeup, sometimes in less than flattering light and often in the fullest close up possible. And it's still my favourite, for "looks"! And I agree about the "heavy" look....he was often wearing a shirt, jumper, corduroy jacket and a bulky unfashionable anorak. I'm surprised he managed to stride across those moors with such alacrity!

Sorry, the above should be on #98!

Re; MOTM he was often wearing a shirt, jumper, corduroy jacket and a bulky unfashionable anorak. That's a v. popular look in the US. At one time FOF had a pic of him in this gear entitled: "The Eddie Bauer Poster Boy" (For non-US...Eddie Bauer is a store/catalog that specializes in outdoor clothing.)

SLOW and Handmade Films Evelyn, Not really news time again! But I noticed that one of Handmade's current batch of films (Lock Stock and 2 smoking barrels) is opening in the UK in a couple of weeks and a few weeks ago The James Gang, also Handmade also opened. Another (Man with rain) is due to open. So at least their products are getting distributed (in the UK at least) There's a site at wysiwig://4/http://www.filmfestivals.com/cannes98/best/best124.htm which gives an update on Handmade Films. SLOW obviously wasn't completed then.

Re: SLOW at Cannes: Bethan....SLOW obviously wasn't completed then. That's what Juliette told me when I called. That film was shot almost a year ago...if those guys in post -production work by the hour, they're wealthy.!! BTW I see at the Handmade website that Juliette is the marketing and sales exec. I shall call again in mid-August to see if they hooked a festival yet. Encouraging to see Handmade Films being released...maybe it's Rubicon money. .

That film was shot almost a year ago...if those guys in post -production work by the hour, they're wealthy. What do you expect from a company named "Handmade".....?

So much for italics. When I have my own computer...

This is a test, thank you all for bearing with me. I should have read the tutorial.

Ok, I revisited the celebrity site last night, and this time I emailed them to ask them why they had changed the system so that you could only vote for the options they provided, and why it was such a limited and obviously idiosyncratic list. This was the response: We had problems with visitors not even visiting the site and just banging on the vote form and this we know for sure because the form had an attatched envelope report. Identifying origination.... We gave viewers an opportunity to act civil and appreciate the time and effort we were willing to put in so they could voice their opinions. Unfortunately there were some who would rather play games, which created entirely too much extra work for us and therefore we have decided to automate the vote and limit it to the actors we cover........ We have a very small staff and we recently doubled our celebrity listings and have 40+ big sites to begin writing on as soon as we finish with work at the main site..... Most of the actors you mentioned are fine actors. We especially like Denzel Washington it it very likely that he or Morgan freeman will occupy the 20th spot on the actors list.. Also alot of what we do is contingant upon what information is or will be made available to us upon request. All agents and publicists are not cooperative and others are. This my friend is how we determine who to write for. This is not a commercial site it is a privately owned site that we fund. We also have the right, just like anyone else, to write for whomever we choose.... We would like to be able to write for everyone but it's impossible, without a staff of 100 or more...... The actress list when finished will encompass 40 actresses........... In effect we will be covering 60 celebrities which is way more than most privately owned and written sites. Plus we have other obligations and commitments and we are also not obligated to take the time to explain everthing we do to everybody.... And just for your information George Clooney, Jane Seymour, & Christian Slater were added because of the poll.... Legitimacy is also not having the same person using 8 different and some bogus e-mail address to vote for the same actor in 2 minutes and think we're not gonna know...and forcing us to canvass 100's of votes daily because of it. I hope I have answered some of your questions... cordially alladin@celebritystars.com So, I think it is not worth persuing this one. ;-)

Kate, I find alladin's "explanation" one of the most "uncivil" answers I've ever imagined, don't you? And none of it comes out as a good reason to drop the #2 actor off their list. Just a very good reason not to visit any of their sites anytime. IMHO, anyway.

Cheryl EI have a (short)list of people I plan to work with and he's on it Can I be your first assistant? :-) I know the business and am thoroughly professional. Oh, and I'm cheap. No, wait - if he's there, I'll pay you.

Thanks Kate, for taking the time to write to Celebrity Stars and relating the answer to us. V. uncivil indeed.(Moreover, poorly written) However, we had one moment in "Camelot" when we saw CF as #2, only one vote away from George Clooney!! They can't take that away from us. :-)

Well, Kate...you tried. He's got a rather large bug up his ass, wouldn't you say? "Plus we have other obligations and commitments and we are also not obligated to take the time to explain everthing we do to everybody..." Geez, sorry to bother you, buddy. Then he had the audacity to sign the email "Cordially" LOL! Last time I visit that site. They can bite me ;-D

They can bite me ;-D well, they can bite me first. I'm sure there would be other bitees as well....

Gi, you have said it in a nutshell. Forget celebr... what was their name?

Oh, this place is entirely too quiet. I've discovered the "storyboard" feature of my Snappy... This is too cool!

Love his hands :-}~~~

Woah! WOAH! 8-O Nan, woman, nearly had a heart attack! All this without warning! Wondered all the time what you were up to, so quiet ..... now I understand your "snapping like a lunatic" :-)).

2. Re Renate's questions--a little background. I was with the documentary crew that was doing a "The Making of ..." documentary, that got turned into a piece on Milos when V. tanked. Therefore, the principle actors and Milos and Mike (line and exec producer)considered us the enemy camp. Of course we were on the same side, and everyone had arranged this and agreed to it. It's just that when you are working as they all work (not like a special effects film or anything where the acting is secondary, whic is 90% of the time), it's offputting to have a second (or third) camera stuck in your face. You're used to down time, between takes, and now you're being shot when you're not aware and ready for it. People are in your sightlines when you're getting ready for a take (I owe Meg an apology for that one). (A courtesy to actors is to clear some space in front of them so they can collect their thoughts and emotions before a medium or close shot.) Who knows what casual comment might get picked up while the ound tape is rolling? You can't adjust your tight pants quite as brazenly as you might after you're sick to death and no longer conscious of the crew, because it might come back to haunt you. Now Vojtech (director of that film, one of Milos' teachers), being a stand-up guy, would never let anything through editing that would embarrass anyone, but the cast doesn't know that because they don't know him. And Milos and Mike for the moment don't either--we, the documentary crew, are a potential liability t keeping the ship on course and moving forward, and therefore they hate us. If the actors got uptight, we got thrown off the set. Not that there was always a correlation, but I'm sure it was because sometimes it made the actors FEEL better, like someone was watching over them and would do anything humanly possible to help them. Of course it pissed me off, but I was juvenile then :-)

(Renate)Keep your sex appeal under wraps (well, so Milos hasn't mastered that one.) But CF did put this rule to best use as Darcy .... well, it was this effect that brought us here, I guess. Mais oui! I think that's why Milos cast him, THAT was already in his bones. Milos doesn't get it about women with less blantant, um, characteristics. (arami) Sure, you can work for me if I don't work for you first! Send me an email if you want and tell me about your film experience, you sly dog. I didn't know until reading the ancient history that you must work or have worked in the business. What, are you Stephen Frears' wife? A famous actress? Perhaps a director in your own right? Maybe it's difference in dialect. What do you call a take when the camera moves? Well, a take. Or are you being sly again? ;-) (Megan)(Arami)(bethan) re natual grace: well, we all know white boys can't jump. However, from what I saw, Bethan's comment seems a propos (Jeez, I didn't realize I used so much French till I learned html:)) Some people, actors included, have a certain consistency about them--they're almost lways analytical, almost always aggressive, generally dishonest, etc. Others pop back and forth between...almost...personas, if you will. When I'm playing basketball or taking a knife away from someo e in aikido, I'm not an Olympic athlete or anything, but I'd never be the last one picked for anyone's team. On the other hand, when I'm working on my book, I have been known to run into walls and/or people at work. I don't think Colin should quit his day job like Michael Jordan did and try baseball, but he could certanly give you a good spin around the dance floor. I agree with Arami, there's so much pressure and so many things to think about, one will make mistakes one wouldn't normally make. Howeve , either he considers it part of his performance, doesn't know till after editing that he wasn't "taken care of", or the budget wouldn't allow too many takes. I haven't seen all those instances you mention so I dunno. Re actors requesting another take: One of my favorite stories is about Milos working with Jack Nicholson...did I mention this before? I think I cut it out because it wasn't that relevant at the time...anyway there's a scene where Nicholson is trying to get the Big Indian to pick up a marble sink and use it to break out of the asylum. After maybe 12 takes, Milos say which takes to print and the crew starts to move things around for the next setup. Nicholson says, one more take. Milos says, we got it. Nicholson says no we didn't. Milos says yes, we did. Jack says one more take, I didn't get it. Milos says no. At this time in history, Milos is a barely known Czech director who has done 1 (maybe 2) films in the US, and Nicholson is, you know. So this was unbelievable (this also touches on the discussion of how much clout directors vs. actors have). Hugh standoff, shooting was stopped for the day because neither guy would budge. Correction, Milos walked off the set, and then Jack walked off the the other direction. Terrible problem, money lost, etc., etc. Michael Douglas produced this one, so he's freaking out as well. Eventually, the next morning, after major diplomatic missions, Nicholson took his spot at the next setup. So stars CAN and often do bulldoze even the biggest directors, but this wasn't one of those times. Now if Colin had asked for another take on any shot I saw, he would have gotten it, whether it served the production or his ego or whatever. Everything is relative.

I think that covers the loose ends. When I grow up I want to be able to use Photoshop, snappy, etc. like Nan. Of course you have to have good material to make it all worthwhile :-)

So i guess i didn't learn html :-( Not even one thing.

I don't think Colin should quit his day job like Michael Jordan did and try baseball, but he could certanly give you a good spin around the dance floor. I wish! Thanks for all that Cheryl....I'll have to re-read it a few times to take it all in. As usual you make some very astute obsevations. Nan, you're becoming a real whizz with the snappy! Mmmmmmm!!

I think it was Jody Foster who said that an interview tells you more about the interviewer than the interviewee.

I don't mean to be a loser, but who is Colin Firth??? I mean there are soooo many pages for this guy. I have never even heard of him.... I mean, Bruce Willis, Mel Gibson, David Dochovny, Sam Neill, I can understand, they're all yum-yums, but I have never heard of Colin Firth. Help me out someone.

Someone more qualified should answer MaryBeth's question--I have one foot in the Drool world and one in the outside, so I would be unintelligible. Help! I just bought about everything you can buy with CF in it! I can call it a professional expense but...I've never done this before. I guess I just have to trust those of you with more experience. This was not on my list of things to do six months ago. Oh my.

Nan,who is she? As you know, I haven't seen all His films, and I'm afraid I'm not likely to go Cheryl's way and buy the whole lot. Anyway, his hands are indeed lovely... (Renate)Wondered all the time what you were up to, so quiet Well, do pay a visit to topic 68 and see for yourself ;-) (MaryBeth)who is Colin Firth??? Allow me... a British actor, who played in a number of films you may not have seen and some you may have, and was the star of the BBC/A&E production of "Pride and Prejudice". You probably saw him as Geoffrey Clifton, the wronged husband, in The English Patient. For more information, I suggest you visit some other sites, like: http://www.teleport.com/~kenellen/firthfaq.htm http://www.members.aol.com/DJohn10589/index1.html and others. Also, stick with us and you'll learn a lot more about him! What d'you all say, ladies? Am I right?

(Cheryl) Re: Buying all available CF's videos This was not on my list of things to do six months ago. Oh my. Caution: This is addictive.....happens to the best of us! (Gi) Re: the chick with CF in the latest snappies Nan,who is she Yeah, I don't recognize her either.....

I did so close the italics.

must open and close them...I think??? ;-)

(evelyn) read somplace that Milos' in his bio said Colin was the best actor he could get for the part for the money....do you know if that is true? Without a doubt. Milos wouldn't hold up a film even if another gang decided to do something based on the SAME BOOK AT THE SAME TIME, but he would never go forward without what he considered to be perfect casting. He also had to be diplomatic, I'm sure. You can't just say, he's the best actor and leave it at that. That would offend and burn bridges. Best actor for the part, I'm quite sure he meant. For the money--maybe, but then again one way for people to stay friends while considering each other as potential business partners is to either demand too much money or to offer too little. Milos and his gang like to see the "money on the screen", which means you get a lot of production value for your money and i 's not "wasted" on things people don't see: crew overtime, sweetheart deal and kickbacks, but also anything they can get away with not paying for ;-). However, it would be easy for him to stay friends with people by saying, sorry, I just can't pay that, and go with the non-star that he was leaning toward in the first place.

Italics are happening independent of us. When I posted last part of Karen's and the answer part of mine was just fine. Then I came back and we have droopy letters.

And on the little screen you get with your post and the one you're answering, it looks ok. So it's the main board (for the software wizards).

I'm not sure what's going on with the tags here. Are you getting any messages saying that you have a "missing tag" when you try to post. The software is supposed to alert you before posting so that you can change it. I wonder if there is something wrong with that feature. Hmmmm....

Welcome, Mary Beth :-) As some ladies here have mentioned, most of us found Colin when he starred as Mr. Darcy in the wonderful A&E/BBC adaptation of Pride and Prejudice. Here's a little example of why we lost our minds: The above is from Renate's archives. If you haven't seen P&P, you really must. Go, run...then come back and tell us if you agree :-) Arami, dear...I tried to snap the photos you requested from the first proposal, but it appears that he is moving too fast for the Snappy to capture a clear photo (during the really "disgusted" moments, anyway)...hope you'll like this instead:

that is probably the one scene in the movie that I think he doesn't look that good:( Too angry for my taste. We like a Happy Darcy!!!

( Laura ) We like a Happy Darcy!!! And lustful.

Oh, but of course, a lustful Darcy. And a witty Darcy, a shy Darcy, A wet Darcy:) Darcy Darcy~!!!!

Nan, love your snappymania! When I saw these pics I thought: "He really looks %&"*3^#!" No wonder, considering what happened 5 minutes ago. Poor Darcy. Wonderful Colin.

Nan, love your snappymania! Me too, babe :-)

(Cheryl) I don�t think it really matters what he has done or hasn�t done. Absolutely! Of course I wish him success and meteoric rise, but I will always like him primarily for who or what he is - not for what he might be. Vojtech That's a Central European name; what's his surname? Sure, you can work for me if I don't work for you first! ...tell me about your film experience, you sly dog... you must work or have worked in the business. LOL! I'll take it as a compliment. Much as I regret it, my experience is not significant, but I've been close... and I pride myself on reasonably good knowledge of the business. At this time in history, Milos is a barely known Czech director who has done 1 (maybe 2) films in the US, and Nicholson is, you know. So this was unbelievable (this also touches on the discussion of how much clout directors vs. actors have). From Milos's experience of the Central European theatre and cinema tradition, the director is God. (MaryBeth)I don't mean to be a loser, but who is Colin Firth??? We're constantly asking the same question here... ;-) Stay with us, MaryBeth and watch us celebrate a wonderful actor and a decent man. Not a bad looker, either. (Cheryl) Help! I just bought about everything you can buy with CF in it! I'm forever buying everything with or about Colin - and what a nice way to spend one's hubby's hard-earned cash on one's fantasy... (Gi) Nan,who is she? Can't remember her name, but isn't the sequence from Wings of fame? (Evelyn) read somplace that Milos' in his bio said Colin was the best actor he could get for the part for the money....do you know if that is true? (Cheryl) Without a doubt... perfect casting... diplomatic... Best actor for the part, I'm quite sure... maybe, but then again... potential business partners... production value... crew overtime... [etc., etc.] Cheryl, baby, and I mean it in the friendliest way: if you went on and on like that when making a film, your actors and crew would fall asleep... :-) Why don't you just grab the said volume and quote from it verbatim to answer Evelyn's simple question? (Nan) it appears that he is moving too fast for the Snappy to capture a clear photo Yes, I know. It's that blasted steadicam again: great for quick, natural, documentary style scenes, but not good for artistic purposes... (Cheryl, my friend, make a note, please: we shan't be using any such fancy cheapo machinery or crap cameramen in our films :-)!) Nan, the first pic comes quite close to what I expected to see. He looks like he's sucking on a lemon, poor dear, and I don't mind that he's not really pretty with it. In fact I'm sure it's intentional: here's Darcy absolutely fuming and seepe in revulsion, giving vent to his frustration by grimacing in private, but no one will ever see his face screwed up like that because he's too polite and well bred to throw tantrums publicly. That famous old English stiff upper lip, you know... Wonderful! Nan, could you try his flashes of anger and disgust as he rises from the pew in the church at Lydia and Wickham's wedding? (Yes, I also like a happy Darcy, but I positively melt when he's thunderous! :-))

(Gi) Nan,who is she? (Arami) Can't remember her name, but isn't the sequence from Wings of fame? Yes, WOF. Her name is Marie Trintignant--quite pretty, I think. (Arami) He looks like he's sucking on a lemon, poor dear, and I don't mind that he's not really pretty with it. Really? Some of you think he's not really pretty when he's angry. Mercy! I think he's too hot for words when he's pissed...makes my teeth sweat :-D (Arami) could you try his flashes of anger and disgust as he rises from the pew in the church *sigh* I'm having the same problem as before...he's moving too fast to catch the real flash, but I got these... Personally, I don't care if he's smiling or frowning or bouncing off the walls--when he's in Darcy mode, he gives me the "squinges" (as Marcia used to say) ;-)

The BIG WET COLD BORING BLANKET speaking: Dear ladies, let me remind you that it is much easier to lose one's temper than to repair the damage when it is done. Ready wit is a great thing, but diplomacy is the better virtue. I can't always keep to this rule myself, but I try. :-) If you cannot swallow what someone serves you, write down your reply but don't post it before 24, or 48 hours later. You will see it in another light. Perhaps you don't need to reply at all because it is not important anymore. This is the essence of my experience of a year and a half on boards and lists.

(Cheryl) .I didn�t have said volume, Evelyn did. SHE asked ME for additional information about something that was IN said volume. I tried to satisfy the woman as much as possible. And Evelyn is very grateful. I will say I learned a great deal from Cheryl's response. Thank you. Hey, kids....this wasn't my weekend.... I offended Ann on #80 (have since apologized via email) And then I opened up a can of worms on this board...... I'm the one to be shot!!

Well, all I can say is that I have really enjoyed Cheryl's very thoughtful contributions and very much appreciate the time and effort taken. I have infact been trying to print off a copy of all Cheryl's postings to read at my leisure, but all I get are blank pages. Any advice, please? I'm not acting as mediator here, but I think that Arami would be the first to admit that she rather enjoys stirring things up occasionally (makes for a lively board :-) )But I also think that Cheryl defended herself very creditably! Baptism by fire! :-)

I have in fact been trying to print off a copy...but all I get are blank pages. Any advice, please? See, Nan!! I'm not the only one. Apparently you and Myretta have *magic* print buttons. Bethan: I've had to resort to copying to a word processing document in order to print anything from Spring since nearly Day 1. :-(

I think it's the browser. Since I use Netscape Communicator I cannot print it out anymore; haven't tried MSIE 3 lately, but it used to work. If it's not the browser it must be some options - would be very interested to find out what the reason is.

(Bethan) Well, all I can say is that I have really enjoyed Cheryl's very thoughtful contributions and very much appreciate the time and effort taken Here, here!!,. And we don't want anyone running her off!

Karen: See, Nan!! I'm not the only one. Apparently you and Myretta have *magic* print buttons. Renate: I think it's the browser. Renate is right, Karen. It's not a magic print button. It's a magic browser. MSIE works. Netscape doesn't.

Marie Trintignant Oh, yes, of course - Jean Louis's daughter, I think, right? How could I forget. he's moving too fast to catch the real flash, but I got these... Nan, it's brilliant (for what it is... ;-P). I love the way he shoots troubled glances from under his frowning brows - left, right... he's in Darcy mode, he gives me the "squinges" Ditto here! (Cheryl) Why don�t you pick on somebody your own size ;-p Ah, so you also think size matters, then :-D ? I request a moratorium on mockery for a month or so I'll consider it... since you're asking so nicely... coffee keeps one perky, if that�s a problem for you. No, dear, I'm not proud - I'd even sweep the studio afterwards ;-) I might have dissolved in tears Oh, no - no waterworks, please. Can't stand it! Anyway, I can see that you are made of sterner stuff and withstood my trials well... ;-) there�s something fishy there Yes, we all seem to be angling for something... The only time anyone ever fell asleep on me was after a long night of � You're expecting applause? ;-) Take this to board 34, I would. ;-D SHE asked ME for additional information about something that was IN said volume. Well, whatever it was, I was also interested in the details. And perhaps other people here, too. However, on checking IN the said volume, I find that more or less half of what she said she had heard was in it, wasn't in it after all... :-( So I was wondering what was that you actually commented upon, if you get my drift... I'm still none the wiser :-) You can always use your pretty little mouse or keyboard to skip unsightly verbiage. But when you put your verbiage on a public board, other people will want to read and comment. If you don't want it, you can always use your pretty little private email system. :-) Perhaps you could try to like me primarily for who and what I am, rather than who I might be�or is that only for DB? (tee hee). Oh, it's never the question of not liking you - I'm not really that nasty! But when facts and sources are quoted, I tend to get very exacting. Why don't you? :-) I didn�t have said volume, Evelyn did. Exactly! But why has it taken you all this time to admit it? And Evelyn can't have it either, her quotation was incorrect, so you both ended discussing a fallacy. OK - I accept your apology in good faith and offer you mine. Not for speaking the truth - but for the way I go about it. (Thanks, Renate and Bethan, for your noble efforts to diffuse the situation. I don't really deserve all the friends who rally round when I get carried away...) Seriously, I know I'm sometimes annoying, but it's all done in an effort to be stimulating and amusing. Well, at least I had some fun... tee-hee... :) P.S.By the way, I would advise you to ignore the gossip concerning my person... It is of no consequence, I assure you. DB is still the appropriate subject here.

(Arami) Well, at least I had some fun... tee-hee... But, at whose expense?

(Myretta) Renate is right, Karen. It's not a magic print button. It's a magic browser. MSIE works. Netscape doesn't. Aha! Mystery solved. All you've gotta do is get rid of that pesky Netscape ;-p (Nan) Marie Trintignant (Arami) Oh, yes, of course - Jean Louis's daughter, I think, right? How could I forget. Yep, that's her. (Arami) I love the way he shoots troubled glances from under his frowning brows - left, right... I just love him when he's dark and brooding. I'm a little annoyed that I can't capture a few of the moments, but I suppose I'll have to live with it. *Sigh* (Arami) Ah, so you also think size matters, then :-D ? Damned straight, it does ;-p ;-p Yes, we all seem to be angling for something... Indeed, baby! (Arami) Seriously, I know I'm sometimes annoying, but it's all done in an effort to be stimulating and amusing...(snip)...By the way, I would advise you to ignore the gossip concerning my person... It is of no consequence, I assure you It's true...Arami is perfectly amiable (and I speak from experience) ;-) Maybe I'm just used to her style, after more than a year of her being an almost daily part of my life, but I've enjoyed every moment of it (good and bad). Slap me if you want, but she makes me LMAO...always has, even when we weren't getting along. I think part of the fun of the Colin boards is that they are frequented by a group of sly, witty, intelligent women. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't trade this for any of the other places I visit where everyone gushes over everyone else. This is far more interesting to me. So, Cheryl dear...settle in, you've been initiated ;-) Give as well as you get and you'll grow to love this place. But I warn you...no Colin information gets past us. If you mention something, prepare to get peppered with questions. And, as Arami mentioned, she is our resident stickler so don't be surprised when she calls you on something ;-)

(Myretta) MSIE works. Netscape doesn't. Aha! Mystery solved. All you've gotta do is get rid of that pesky Netscape ;-p ... only to get that still more pesky MSIE....;-)) For the benefit of newbies: you can have both on your pc, and use them simultaneously. Very useful, and very interesting, because the same page may look very different when watched with one or the other.

(Arami) Well, at least I had some fun... tee-hee... (Evelyn) But, at whose expense? You're obviously craving an apology from me personally, too. Oh, all right, then. It's like giving autographs (ask Colin!) - one tries one's best in the interest of world peace... ;-P ;-D So, have you found out yet what Milos Forman really wrote about casting Colin in Valmont? :)

(Arami ) (Evelyn) But, at whose expense? You're obviously craving an apology from me personally, too. "Frankly, m'dear, I don't give a damn":-) I just felt sorry that I had put Cheryl in that predicament. You see, I don't get my kicks from injuring other people.And I don't think you're so cute,as Nan does. But I am willing to co-exist with you. I don't think we have to gush over one another....but one should maintain some form of civility. So, have you found out yet what Milos Forman really wrote about casting Colin in Valmont? :) BTW that information was at onetime posted on FAQ. AT this point I shall take Cheryl's word .

Okay, as we're all amicable once more, I'm going to stimulate some discussion! I've been reading about Spielberg's "Private Ryan" opening on the US to a major promotion campaign and hugely favourable audience reaction.....and I presume that one of the reasons, if not the only reason, the opening of MLSF was postponed by Miramax would have been the justifiable fear that it would sink without trace before such opposition. And so they looked for another date. Which begs the question...when can a small budget coming of age movie about a landed gentry family in Scotland in the early 1930's ever be a box office success in the US? Everyone always quotes the example of the Full Monty, but that had a "secret" marketing budget of $20million. Miramax would have to promote MLSF heavily, and CF would have to take centre stage on the celebrity circuit..talk shows etc. I was reading about how Kenneth Branagh promoted The Gingerbread Man in the US (BTW this movie has just opened here to dreadful reviews..made the reviews for ATA seem positively glowing) and "surfing" cable TV I caught a glimpse of Madonna partying with Rupert Everett and talking about their latest movie. The problem is I just can't see Colin taking this celebrity path, although he may have to. With reasonable marketing MLSF could probably open now in the UK with modest to good box office success, as it could in perhaps somewhere like Scandinavia where Colin is quite popular. But the big box office returns are undoubtably to be made in the US and in the meantime Miramax delay the release of MLSF which doesn't do Colin's career in the UK any good....we're having a long wait to see him in a starring role, especially if SIL comes out first. Basically, my question is, just how difficult is it to be successful on both sides of the pond? Especially for an essentially private unassuming man?

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Bethan... I keep tellin ya'...Miramax knows what they're doin' with MLSF They are the most successful indie company (not v. indie..owned by Disney) I wish SLOW was in their hands!!

(Evelyn)I had put Cheryl in that predicament Evelyn, my dear, I wouldn't change a thing:-)