~tsatsvol
Thu, Aug 22, 2002 (03:55)
#101
Splendid experiences Marcia. Thank you for publishing it here. Are you feeling disappointment finally?
John
~MarciaH
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (00:48)
#102
Not really disappointment - more like a feeling of relief.
Don suggested that it is a case of Unidentified Flying Hypotheses that get us into trouble with these phenomena. I agree. UFH it is for me. I am more than a little distressed when such things happen to me. I KNOW they cannot be so my mind switches into hyper-gear and runs frantically hunting for a reasonable explanation. I am happy to report that in my experience, there are no UFOs of an extraterrestrial nature.
~MarciaH
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (00:49)
#103
..yet...!
~tsatsvol
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (02:23)
#104
Dear Wolfie
I must apologise for the way of my expression. I completely understood what you were meaning. But I fear that trying to express thrifty sentences, I become more than needed simple. It is mine personal choice because I believe that we must expresses essentially rather than using complicated thoughts and sentences. Please think also my real difficulties with English language and the different Greek way of expression. Please forgive my errors. I never learned correct English. I'm truly sorry! I ask your leniency.
John
~tsatsvol
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (05:42)
#105
We are 2.5 dimensional existences. We have finite knowledge, logic and estimation. But we have the tendency to learn and explain every thing. Our technology has also its limits. Unfortunately we are completely conditional upon it.
My poor opinion is that it is impossible to not exist extraterrestrial life but is equal impossible that we can have any contact with it. We must accept that we cannot answer in all possible questions. Simply we cannot know.
The point isn�t on how SIMPLE or INGENUOUS we are but on what we believe that we know. You are correct Marcia and Wolfie.
John
~wolf
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (12:50)
#106
*HUGS* John, no need to apologize to me. We are all going to misunderstand each other once in awhile. I believe in things unseen. But that doesn't mean that I'm gullible either. I have experienced unexplainable phenomenon which is why I asked that ParaSpring be created.
There are things we simply cannot know. We don't have the brains to fathom certain things. And since we don't know everything about science, we don't know what science can prove.
And this is OK by me. I don't HAVE to know why things are the way they are. I'm simply curious.
~MarciaH
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (21:52)
#107
Wolfie:I don't HAVE to know why things are the way they are. I'm simply curious.
This is precisely the way I conclude my thoughts on things unseen and unknown. John's correct about there being things we cannot explain. Things we cannot know, yet reason tells us that it is so even if it is unprovable. Like life elsewhere in the Universe.Of course it is there. Can we know it? I sincerely doubt it.
~MarciaH
Sun, Aug 25, 2002 (19:02)
#108
India UFO attacks 'are coloured lightning balls'
A scientist claims the 'UFOs' behind a series of attacks on
Indian villagers are just balls of lightning.
Professor Ravindra Arora says the coloured balls ranging from
tennis to football size are caused by dry weather.
Villagers in Uttar Pradesh claim they're being attacked by flying
spheres emitting red and blue lights.
At least seven people have died of unexplained injuries and
others have suffered scratches and burns in the last week.
Police say a 9cm-long winged insect may be responsible for
the attacks while doctors think the wounds are self-inflicted.
Professor Arora, of the Indian Institute of Technology-Kanpur,
told Rediff.com: "I have sufficient reason to believe that the burn
injuries on the faces of victims were caused by nothing other
than these lightning balls.
"Dry spells increase the soil resistance while decreasing its
conductivity, and in the process attract lightning balls that emit
different colour lights - mostly blue, green, yellow or red.
"There is constant evidence of these balls over the ages. In all
cases, people can see a ball-like object travelling sideways in
the air that can produce up to 100 watts of current."
One Uttar Pradesh villager, who claims to have been attacked,
said: "I can't sleep because of the pain. It was like a big soccer
ball with sparkling lights."
Professor Arora says the problem should disappear once
heavy rains arrive in the region.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_650903.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery.phenomena
~tsatsvol
Mon, Aug 26, 2002 (00:41)
#109
Meteorite changed Earth's history
The impact would have created colossal tidal waves
Scientists say they have found evidence that a gigantic meteorite, twice as big as the one which is believed to have wiped out the dinosaurs, collided with Earth billions of years ago.
Deposits of the rock were found in South Africa and Australia, said a report in the Science journal.
The 20-kilometre (12-mile) wide asteroid is believed to have hit the planet with such force that it would have caused tidal waves kilometres high and torn up the bottom of the ocean.
Researchers from Stanford University in California and Louisiana State University say the cataclysmic event happened about 3.4 billion years ago, before continents were formed and when only bacteria existed.
It is not known exactly where the giant meteorite hit as the scientists have not yet located a crater which would have been left by the impact.
Evolution altered
The report said the rock probably came from an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.
Researcher Gary Byerly said the object was likely to have been part of a shower of meteorites, some as wide as 50km (30 miles).
"These impacts were very large. They really changed the course of the evolution on Earth," he said.
The report does not say what changes the impact might have affected.
"There isn't a big extinction event you can identify as cut-and-dried as the extinction of the dinosaurs," said co-author, Donald Lowe.
Incredible tsunamis
Mr Lowe said it would have taken the rock less than two seconds to pass through the ocean and slam into the sea bed.
"That would generate enormous waves kilometres high that would spread out from the impact site, sweep across the ocean and produce just incredible tsunamis - causing a tremendous amount of erosion on the microcontinents and tearing up the bottom of the ocean," he said.
Geologists found traces of the meteorite in South Africa's Barberton greenstone belt and Pilbara block in western Australia.
The sites contain rocks formed more than three billion years ago and which contain information dating back to the beginning of the solar system.
Source: BBC NEWS
~CherylB
Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (11:20)
#110
I think there is also a theory which maintains that a meteorite crashing into the young Earth caused part of the forming planet to break off and become the Moon.
~Geocoast
Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (17:24)
#111
That is correct. One of the scenarios is described in: 24 Hours of Chaos: The Day The Moon Was Made
Large number of asteroids continued to hit the newly formed Earth and Moon during the Late Heavy Bombardment period. Many scientists believe that rocks and dust blasted from Earth by asteroid impacts have landed on the Moon's surface. If such samples are retrieved from the Moon's surface, they can reveal a lot about the early history of Earth and the Solar system (See: Moon Holds Earth's Ancient Secrets)
~Geocoast
Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (17:34)
#112
I would be surprised if my first attempt to add links to a response was successful. It would be a serious violation of Murphy's Law...
~Geocoast
Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (18:38)
#113
Second attempt:
24 Hours of Chaos: The Day The Moon Was Made
Moon Holds Earth's Ancient Secrets
~Geocoast
Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (18:51)
#114
Good! That's what happens if you don't listen to Marcia (who suggested using http://www.austen.com/tutorial/) and think that the example under "Adding HTML to Your Response" in http://www.spring.net/help/responding.html is clear enough. The quotation marks are missing...
~MarciaH
Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (22:37)
#115
Those internal little intricacies is what makes HTML programming such a challenge. Frustration is a common side-effect!
'Meteorite' hits girl
Siobhan Cowton: "I saw it fall from above roof height"
The odds against being hit by a meteorite are
billions to one - but a teenager in North
Yorkshire may have had one land on her foot.
Siobhan Cowton, 14, was getting into the
family car outside her Northallerton home at
1030 BST on Thursday when a stone fell on
her from the sky.
Noticing it was "quite
hot", she showed it to
her father Niel.
The family now plan to
have the stone analysed
by scientists at Durham
University.
"I saw it fall from above roof height," Siobhan
told BBC News Online.
"It looked very unusual, with a bubbled surface
and tiny indentations like volcanic lava.
'Shiny'
"It was shiny on one side and looked rusty as if
it contained iron.
"I've seen shooting stars before - but nothing
like this. This does not happen very often in
Northallerton."
Mr Cowton, 45, told BBC News Online he would
take the stone to be analysed himself.
"It is not going to
leave my sight
because it is a very
rare find," he said.
"It is worth a lot to
Siobhan.
"We will have it
mounted in a glass
presentation case so
she can keep it for the
rest of her life.
"After all it is not
every day you get hit by a meteorite.
"The odds of winning the Lottery are better."
The stone could have come from Mars,
according to expert on Earth impacts Dr Benny
Peiser, of Liverpool John Moores University.
"It could be billions of years old and come from
the earliest formation of the solar system," he
told the Daily Mail newspaper.
Most meteors are between five and 60
centimetres (1.95 in and 1 ft 11.5 in) long,
according to Durham University physical
geography lecturer Dr Ben Horton.
"Sometimes they have shallow depressions and
cavities," he said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2218755.stm
~terry
Wed, Aug 28, 2002 (07:50)
#116
http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/outreach1/expmetmys/expmetmys.htm
a course in "meteorite mysteries".
~MarciaH
Wed, Aug 28, 2002 (15:20)
#117
That is an excellent source of easy information on meteorites! Thank you for posting it. I still want to add a meteorite to my collection...
~MarciaH
Sat, Sep 7, 2002 (17:45)
#118
Woman reunited with ring in apple after 27 years
A woman has been reunited with a gold ring found inside an
apple, 27 years after she says she lost it.
Twelve-year-old Jamie-Louisa Arnold discovered the ring when
she bit into an apple.
Rosalind Pike, now 37, says she was given the �5 ring by her
parents while on holiday. She lost it at a pool in Colchester,
Essex, when she went swimming with her primary school in
1975.
A gardening expert says it could have been dropped in a tree,
by a bird or orchard worker, and the fruit formed around it.
Rosalind told The Sun, which reported on the find earlier this
week: "I couldn't believe it when I saw the picture of the ring - I
just knew it was the same one I lost all those years ago. To see
it inside an apple was incredibly spooky. I never thought I'd see
it again."
She added: "I knew it was mine because it had the same
markings inside the band. It's an unusual design. My mum and
dad bought me that ring when I was very young and I treasured
it. I just can't believe I have found it after all these years.
"I left the ring on my towel at the side of the pool but when I
came out it had gone. I just assumed it had been lost. I just
wish the ring could talk and tell me exactly what has happened
over the years."
Jamie-Louisa, from Cowlinge, Suffolk, bit on the ring while
eating an apple at a holiday park near Colchester. She said: "I
feel very happy that Rosalind saw the story and has claimed it."
The Sun's gardening expert Peter Seabrook said the ring could
have been dropped in a tree. Orchard workers often thin apple
crops by hand, flicking off under-sized fruits with their fingers
so that the others can grow bigger.
Mr Seabrook said: "The apple is only the size of a thumbnail at
this time. A ring could fall off on to the fruitlet. The odds are long
- but it is possible the fruit could seal around the ring."
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_655818.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery.phenomena
~MarciaH
Sat, Sep 7, 2002 (18:04)
#119
Lost city in Georgia resurfaces again
A city in Georgia which was flooded 50 years ago to make way
for a lake has begun emerging again.
Petersburg was once the state's second largest city and has
resurfaced amid the sinking waters of Thurmond Lake.
Army Corps of Engineers flooded 72,000 acres to build the
Lake in the early 1950s.
Most of the city's ruins still lie beneath the lake's waters, which
have sunk more than 14 feet , exposing old roadbeds, fence
lines and brick foundations.
There's also historical litter, such as rusty spikes and broken
glass.
"We get a lot of questions, and we have a few people who
come all the way out here just to see it," said Jerry Cook,
assistant manager at Bobby Brown State Park, which straddles
Thurmond Lake's shoreline.
Petersburg was founded as a tobacco town in the late 1700s
and peaked in 1809, when 45,000 people lived in the Broad
River Valley. But then the economy dried up and the settlement
dwindled as quickly as it had grown.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_665946.html?menu=
~tsatsvol
Tue, Sep 17, 2002 (04:57)
#120
Is life the rule or the exception?
The answer may be in the interstellar clouds
Some scientists have theorised that life on Earth began when amino acids, the building blocks of life, were delivered from space by comets and asteroids. The European Space Agency is planning two missions to help gather more evidence. Rosetta, due for launch in 2003, will study the composition of gas and dust released from a comet to sense what kinds of organic molecules they contain, while Herschel, due for launch in 2007 will focus on the chemistry of interstellar space, searching for traces of the material in distant clouds of dust.
[ Visit News Source ]
Complete story in ESA portal
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 18, 2002 (20:49)
#121
Rosetta seems to be the catchword for any new technology to seek out information. Of course, anyone watching the big buildup for little results of the pyramid television program this week will know that without the Rosetta stone we could not read heiroglyphics - or perhaps we could. Did anyone find that program interesting. I got rather tired of seeing that Egyptian archaeologist (known in certain circles as a "glory hound") use most of the time talking about how great his ancestors were. I wonder if DNA proves that. Just curious.
~MarciaH
Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (23:24)
#122
Mystery Object Orbits Earth
NASA Science News for September 20, 2002
A puzzling object that recently entered Earth orbit appears set to leave
again soon. What is it? Researchers believe it's an Apollo rocket on a
fantastic journey through the solar system.
FULL STORY at
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/20sep_mysteryobject.htm?list89800
~tsatsvol
Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (03:38)
#123
Mirror matter mystery
By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor
Two Australian scientists believe they have found evidence of a parallel universe of strange matter within our own Solar System.
Dr Robert Foot and Dr Saibal Mitra, of the University of Melbourne, report that close-up observations of the asteroid Eros by the Near-Shoemaker probe indicate it has been splattered by so-called "mirror matter".
Mirror matter is not anti-matter, it is altogether weirder. It is somehow a "reflection" of normal matter, a sort of parallel series of particles required to restore the balance of the Universe.
Sounds far-fetched - some believe so. However, experiments are underway to confirm or deny the existence of this strange, potentially significant but as yet undetected component of the cosmos.
Source and complete document: BBC NEWS, Science/Nature
~MarciaH
Mon, Nov 18, 2002 (18:26)
#124
Mirrors? Imagine the possibilities! Thank you for that,John. I have been a little out of the loop lately, but that is about to change. At least, in theory. I will get some time each day on the modem until I leave here, then I will have full time.
Thank you all for hanging in there with me. This has been VERY difficult.
~CherylB
Mon, Nov 25, 2002 (20:31)
#125
"Through the Looking Glass", indeed.
~MarciaH
Wed, Dec 25, 2002 (02:49)
#126
100,000 tourists flock to see mysterious Thai fireballs
More than 100,000 tourists flocked to a remote part of
Thailand to see a mysterious phenomenon in which
coloured fireballs shoot into the sky.
more and pictures... http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_694513.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery.phenomena
~MarciaH
Fri, Jul 11, 2003 (17:08)
#127
I will be in this area in two weeks. I'll report what I might discover other than the fact that it is a hoax:
It's a hoax!
The names of the teenagers in this story have been changed to protect their identities - Editor.
Four Fairfield teenagers claim they created the mysterious crop circles that popped up in a Rockville Road wheat field in June, drawing thousands of curious onlookers and nationwide media attention.
http://www.thereporter.com/
~MarciaH
Tue, Jul 29, 2003 (15:33)
#128
Did I post this before? Pictures are on the link.
Archaeologists examine 'pre-historic stone faces'
Archaeologists say five stones with faces carved into them -
which have been ignored for decades after being found in
Massachusetts - could be prehistoric relics.
more... http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_784886.html?menu=
~MarciaH
Tue, Jul 29, 2003 (15:37)
#129
About those crop circles... they suddenly stopped appearing. It seems the police caught the kids making them.
~MarciaH
Tue, Jul 29, 2003 (15:40)
#130
Thus, the new agers and their $$ for local establishments disappeared, too.
~aa9il
Tue, Jul 29, 2003 (15:57)
#131
Hi Marci!
Still around but have been 'slightly preoccupied'.
I did get to pay a brief visit to Salem, MA last week while on a business
trip - cool place to visit - interesting ambience.
73 de AA9IL
Mike
~MarciaH
Tue, Jul 29, 2003 (19:17)
#132
Hi Mike! Did you sample the witches? I heard that was a requisit activity in Salem. MA. It is a very interesting town! Different...!
Drop in anytime. We're happy to hear anything from you whenever you can manage it. Enjoy the lack of snow while you can. I am enjoying the 100 which feels like 116 temperatures in California. But, no crop circles!
~MarciaH
Thu, Oct 23, 2003 (20:11)
#133
Another Atlantis?
Divers find ruins of mythical city off India
Explorers believe they have discovered remains of a
mythical city off the coast of India.
According to legend it was swallowed up by the sea about
2,000 years ago.
photos and more... http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_563330.html
~MarciaH
Thu, Oct 23, 2003 (20:14)
#134
This article goes on to mention Graham Hancock. I have two of his books. Take them with the proverbial grain of salt.
~CherylB
Thu, Jun 21, 2007 (09:55)
#135
Lake disappears suddenly in Chile
Scientists in Chile are investigating the sudden disappearance of a glacial lake in the south of the country.
When park rangers patrolled the area in the Magallanes region in March, the two-hectare (five-acre) lake was its normal size, officials say.
But last month they found a huge dry crater and several stranded chunks of ice that used to float on the water.
One theory is that an earthquake opened up a fissure in the ground, allowing the lake's water to drain through.
"In March we patrolled the area and everything was normal," Juan Jose Romero from Chile's National Forestry Corporation, Conaf, said.
"We went again in May and to our surprise we found that the lake had completely disappeared. All that was left were chunks of ice and an enormous fissure."
Geologists and other experts are being sent to the area, which is some 2,000km (1,250 miles) south of the capital, Santiago, to investigate.
The region is shaken by frequent earth tremors and one idea is that a strong quake which hit the neighbouring region of Aysen in April opened up the fissure in the bottom of the lake.
A glacier specialist, Andres Rivera, told Chilean newspaper La Tercera that the lake's disappearance seemed to be part of the continual reforming of the landscape.
The Magallanes area "has seen interesting changes in the last few decades," he said, noting that the lake itself had not been there 30 years ago.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6225676.stm
~MarciaH
Sat, Jul 28, 2007 (12:28)
#136
This lake appears to be the sort of Gacial artifact that appear seeminly suddenly and disappear the same way. It will be interesting to watch this.