Hi all. My recent signals. Just for your information. John

You are going to have another quake, John! This is not psychic waves I am reading, nor tea leaves. This is obvious from John's signals and other data he has put on Geo's portal page. Link it on the Geo index page: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/Geo/all/new Better still, go to the portal page direct: http://www.spring.net/geo/

Aha! Ioannina quake An earthquake measuring 4.6 on the Richter scale shook the northern prefecture of Ioannina yesterday morning. The quake�s epicenter was 370 kilometers (231 miles) northwest of Athens, on the Albanian border north of Delvinaki. There were no reports of injuries or major damage. http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100018_09/10/2002_21819

i tried to go to the prediction tool and it said "forbidden" :(

"Forbidden" disappeared! Our Special Table of Contents is completely alive again. Thank you Terry. John

Sure, sorry it took so long. If you want the gory technical details you can see them in the the unix conference, the topic on chmod.

Happy are we with our graphics returned! One of the world significant earthquakes occurred: A magnitude 6.7 earthquake IN THE IRIAN JAYA REGION, INDONESIA has occurred at: 1.48S 133.97E Depth 10km Thu Oct 10 12:28:25 2002 UTC Time: Universal Time (UTC) Thu Oct 10 12:28:25 2002 Time Near Epicenter Thu Oct 10 21:28:25 2002 Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) Thu Oct 10 08:28:25 2002 Central Daylight Time (CDT) Thu Oct 10 07:28:25 2002 Mountain Daylight Time (MDT) Thu Oct 10 06:28:25 2002 Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) Thu Oct 10 05:28:25 2002 Alaska Daylight Time (ADT) Thu Oct 10 04:28:25 2002 Hawaii Standard Time (HST) Thu Oct 10 02:28:25 2002 Location with respect to nearby cities: 40 miles (70 km) S of Manokwari, Irian Jaya, Indonesia (pop N/A) 190 miles (305 km) ESE of Sorong, Irian Jaya, Indonesia 780 miles (1260 km) NNE of Darwin, Australia 1900 miles (3060 km) E of JAKARTA, Java, Indonesia

Hi Marcia and all You are talking about this EQ Marcia: 2002/10/10 12:28:25 1.48S 133.97E 10.0 6.7 A IRIAN JAYA REGION, INDONESIA But one and half hour before it, they had this terrible one: 2002/10/10 10:50:20 1.71S 134.16E 10.0 7.6 A IRIAN JAYA REGION, INDONESIA Now I see that Greece is in a difficult position. John

Earthquake jolts eastern Crete, no damage or injuries 12/10/2002 16:44:12 An earthquake measuring 5.2 on the Richter scale shook eastern Crete on Saturday. No injuries or damage were reported. The epicentre of the earthquake, which occurred at 08:55 hours, was located 410 kilometres south of Athens in southeastern Crete, the Geodynamic Institute of the Athens National Observatory said in a statement.

Poor Irian Jaya! They have had a very bad week. I suspect a volcanic eruption will follow as is usual in Indonesia. John, did you get media coverage about the 5.2 Crete earthquake? I can well imagine you did. We anticipated it thanks to your signals!

Another of your quakes? A magnitude 6.8 earthquake IN WESTERN BRAZIL has occurred at: 8.26S 71.53W Depth 536km Sat Oct 12 20:09:11 2002 UTC Time: Universal Time (UTC) Sat Oct 12 20:09:11 2002 Time Near Epicenter Sat Oct 12 17:09:11 2002 Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) Sat Oct 12 16:09:11 2002 Central Daylight Time (CDT) Sat Oct 12 15:09:11 2002 Mountain Daylight Time (MDT) Sat Oct 12 14:09:11 2002 Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) Sat Oct 12 13:09:11 2002 Alaska Daylight Time (ADT) Sat Oct 12 12:09:11 2002 Hawaii Standard Time (HST) Sat Oct 12 10:09:11 2002 Location with respect to nearby cities: 85 miles (140 km) ESE of Cruzeiro do Sul, Brazil (pop N/A) 205 miles (330 km) E of Pucallpa, Peru 280 miles (450 km) WNW of Rio Branco, Brazil 1670 miles (2700 km) WNW of BRASILIA, Brazil

Hi all, I present you now the following graph, which is result of analysis on my last 7 days recordings. It is also updated every day. You see on it the two components (East-West and North-South) of the total signal which has 24hour period. John

I am sorry. I have renamed this file. Here is the new graph that is focused in 12-hour period. I think that it is very interesting because it has the same shape with the tidal gravity curve. John

I noticed this also. That is a fantastic set of signals. I am certain you will learn much about the earth's dynamics from it. It will be fun to watch. My congratulations and warmest affection for your continued success in this!

Dear friends I have a Game shop at Ganimidi, Rhodos island Greece and I am semi amateur researcher also. My brother Teiresias is meta-psychologist and also is making holes to find water for business. I am a fun of Mr.John Tsatsaragos (Tsatsvol) I realy enjoy every day his predictions, especially the ones far from Greece. It is fantastic. Recently I try to develop another method to check the method of TsatsVol. Its origin is on telepathetic extension of noise which someone can listen over the holes. It is a new method. Very often I am going to tell you my results and compare with the ones of Tsatsa. My regards Aris

What is a Game shop? What do you sell?

I sell nice smals plastic dolls for tourists. These dolls are very funny and they are relative with the Ancient Greek Orgy. British men are the people who buy them more. We have problems with them, the young ones make noise and try to rape Greek girls when they are drunk. We are frightened and we keep closed the doors at night. Very often they are coming and beg for food. Accidently the Greek government of Mr.Simitis does not protect us. Recently, some other 'Brittons' were arrested in Kalamata as spies because they took pictures of Greek military airplanes. There were big labels there which say that 'DO NOT TAKE PICTURES'. Against of that, they did not respect the Greek law and they took the pictures. Accidently they arrested... And then Mr. Tony Blair, the British prime minister askesd the Greek government to release them. Spotters or not it does not matter. Can you imagine someone to do it in another country? We are not Iraq here, Greece is a member of Europe!! It is not a collony of Great Britain... Anyway, now these people who cannot understand what democracy is and also play strange games are free... After all Greece is small country with small scientists and small polticians. In UK, it is difficult for Greek scientists to access high rank scientific projects. Brittons apply one kind of racism againsy Greeks which is driven from a specific lobby, I think.

Dear Aris I think we should put a few things straight. This topic was created by Mr. John Tsatsaragos for the sole purpose of presenting and discussing the results of his research. We might be interested in hearing your opinion about John's research, but not your views about the social problems of Rhodes, global politics or your business endeavours. When you develop your own method you may set up your own pages to present it (and accept any criticism for it). Furthermore, I think that common decency demands that we address our host by his name as it is given clearly at the top of this topic (John Tsatsaragos, neither "TsatsVol" nor "Tsatsa"). For your information, there are quite a few top-ranking scientists of Greek origin in British universities and scientific organizations, who are widely respected by the British (not the kind of respect you have for your customers). Finally, if you really feel that "After all Greece is small country with small scientists and small polticians", why don't you leave for a bigger and better(?) place and leave us alone? Goodbye Aris!...

Hi again My answer was relative to a previous question about my shop. Mr.Tsatsaragos is my favorite scientist. I have a big respect for him. He is the leader of research in the field of earthquakes in Greece. He is the best. As Varotsos calls his method VAN, I call the method of Mr.Tsatsaragos TSATSA. What is bad on that? I have one question now to anybody who can answer. ---------------------------------------------------- The antenna which Mr.Tsatsaragos is using is a dipole with length 100 m. Do you know if the length of his antenna is appropriate to measure low frequency signals? I am afraid not. Aris Varemenos Ganimidi, Rhodos

Aloha and Welcome to Geo, Aris. I am delighted to see your posts and to learn of your interests and activities. You are in good company as an admirer of John Tsatsaragos's and his research.He is a worthy man of great interests with an ability to make even the most difficult things understandable to those of us who cannot understand advanced physics. How great it is to have three Greek gentleman in our midst. You honor Geo with your presence. Again, Welcome and Aloha.

John will answer your dipole question as soon as he has time. I have asked the same question and now forget the answer. Be patient. I really like your TSATSA. I wonder if he will. *;) I do believe he will.

Dear Marcia I am afraid that Mr.John Tsatsaragos can not answer a so difficult question. But I will surprized if he willl. Aris

He is a good man and will tell you if he cannot answer your questions. I have found him completely honest about that. And, surprisingly I have had all questions posed to him answered clearly. Perhaps my limited knowledge has made me ask simple questions. That is always a distinct possibility!

Dear Marcia definetely John is a very kind person but I believe that by using a resonant antena of this size he cannot measure so low frequency band correctly. But we can find the same mistake not only in TSATSA method but also in VAN method, in Thanasolas method (another pro scientist, ex helper of John). It is interested to observe that this specific mistake is made by many famous worldwide Japanese and American Geophysisists for a long time now. It is funny also that someone named Prof.Geller I think attacks to VAN method about its success relative to statistics. And he is right.But, the MAIN problem is not the statistics of succeess but the correct measurement!!! As you can understand worldwide have big mistake on that, which is written in their publications for many years now. So, it can be interested to listen the oppinion of Mr.Tsatsaragos about that. John is much more respectable person to me against some other people which they supposed to know as scientists to accept their mistakes against to be covered under some university position and pretend the scientist. Myself I do not permit to anyone to play the scientist but I am a very open minded and I like people like John who really love what they do and at least they believe it, they do not use it to win projects and extra money... but to help the society. Hey John where are you? My regards Aris Ganimidi (Research Institute) Rhodos, Hellas

Yes, John! Where are you? Now I worry since he has not emailed me in a long time and has not posted here, either. Aris, he will be delighted with your interest when he returns. You and George actually know what he is talking about. I am just running as fast as I can to try to keep up with his data. I do know he was in Athens for a while. However, this absence is totally new and a little disquieting. I will try to contact him.

Hi all I am sorry for my absence. I am alive but extremely busy. I will be back soon. I promise it. My research is continued even though with less time for it. John

Great that you're back, John. Looking forward to your predictions for future events.

Hi everybody I am happy John you are fine ... Where is George, the other expert to answer my questions? hihihi. Hey anybody home? Aris The Ganimidi Institute of Technology Rhodos, GR

Hi Terry, I was not completely absent from Geo. I was in the shadow� My graphs continue updated every day. Even with enough difficulty depending on my time. Here is the tidal variations graph for this December. John

Dear John this is the link of Prof.Geller at the Univ. of Tokyo. Prof.Geller is an authority in earthquakes. Please enjoy this link: http://incede.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/Newsletter/5.4/5-4-4.htm Also, John as you probably know Mr.Varotsos is not the first who spoke about geoelectrical signals but many Chinese scientists many years before. So do not spread such things. I still wait your answer about the resonant antena ......... Bye Aris

Hey anybody home? Next time I will not ask questions... (:- John I still wait your answer about the resonant antenna. Aris 'Fisherman' Varemenos Institute of GaniMidi Ellas (IGME)

There is your most unworthy hostess here. I am amazed at how many Greeks bearing intellectual gifts who have suddenly appeared here. Please let John get his work other than seismic research finished before we becomediscouraged. I can imagine the famous classical Greeks getting bogged down with home cures and work family has put upon him. John is no different. I am wondering what Einstein did in such circumstances. *sigh* I guess we carry on using our talents as best we can and returning to research as soon as possible. In any case, Aloha and welcome to the follower of John and his oracle.

Hello Mr.Tsatsaragos congratulations. I find very interested your research on earthquakes. Please post your new predictions to GEO. Until now I believed that there is not any method to predict earthquakes. Very nice job. I hope one day you can visit Peru, which is my country. Can you predict big earthquakes to Peru? Kleopatra Doneri

Until now . . . Wow, that's pretty powerful.

John is an excellent physicist and has a natural gift for knowing what equipment to build to discover what he needs to know. We are privileged to have him at Geo. Very powerful information, when you consider lives can be saved!!!

Dear Marcia I understund that John is an excellent Physicist and maybe the Greek Union of Physicists will ask him soon to bring his diploma. But except of that I still wait to have an answer from him relative to resonant antena which I allready asked many many many times. I hope that Mr.John will come out soon from his shadow... But I do not expect, He just wants to listen ideas from other like Prrrr.Varotsos and then to say IT WAS MINE. Anyway, where I John? John, where are youuuuuuu? Aris

Aris, you mistake John's silence. Perhaps you have written to him personally and he has discovered why you are asking these questions. Aside from that, he is extrememly busy with personal matters. Since he is doing this research wihtout compensation ("for free") he has to work and take care of his family matters before Geo. In any case, I have knows John for more than a year and the man is honest to a fault. To imply otherwise would be an injustice. I an sorry he has not answered your question. There must be a good reason for his not doing so. I continue to be delighted that all new "worshippers" at the shrine of the Tsatsaragos Oracle have bothered to login at Geo and to post. Aloha!!!

Dear Marcia there is nothing personal. My question remains "is it correct or not to use resonant antenna to measure 0.1 MHz signals and why?" Let us be a bit serious and do not give answers all time about the ... weather. So, Mr.John must not change the direction of the conversation in personal matters. Mr.Tsatsaragos or Mr.Thanasoulas or 'George' or anybody else has to give a scientific answer or they must stop to make noise around. Can they give a scientific answer against to escape all time, yes or not? They cannot find some time (20 minutes) to write an answer here? It sounds out of sense. And Mr.Tsatsaragos is not Physicist ... but in Greece whatever anybody says is like a 'law'. This situation is explained if we accept that Greece is still a third world country without sensitivities. In other case some people like Varotsos and others should be in the jail... Aris Aris

Dear Marcia I have to retype, sorry for that The question is "what size a resonant antena must have to measure 0.1 Hz frequency?" Aris, the Lucifer

Hi Marcia and all, I present you the daily updated original recordings of my station. You can see the potential variation on the two dipoles as they are recorded. (Green and yellow lines). Red lines are the calculated resultant value. (After the removal of the offsets and calculations of the real values which are measured on each dipole). See carefully the red lines. The 24-hour oscillation is impressively visible at the lower end of the red lines. Important Notice: I have not applied any filter on my recordings. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you. John

Hi again, Is there a correlation between my signals and the EQ's around of my station? We can answer to this question using the SChtM factor. Its physical meaning is the approximately amount of the mechanical energy of an EQ, which arrive in my station area. It is a suggestion of Prof. Strachimir Cht. Mavrodiev. The math formula is: SChtM=EQ Magnitude/Distance^2 Where: -Magnitude is the magnitude of the EQ on the ML scale and -Distance is the Distance between the epicenter and my station, in meters. On the daily updated map of Greece below: -Red triangles are the epicenters of the occurred EQ's during the last 7 days. -The animated goniometer shows with red lines, the SChtM factor value and its azimuth direction. The length of these red lines is proportional to the value of the SChtM factor. Normally, we must expect to see the EQ, which has big SChtM factor in the parameters of my signals as is the amplitude and the azimuth direction. John

Hi Marcia, Thank you Marcia for your opinion about me. Of coarse I will not answer to personal attacks especially if they are coming from a man that uses different names here and in every other possible place. Unfortunately, bad and good are walking together in the life. I am so sorry for this bad situation in Geo. Merry Christmas John P.S. For those who wonder on what really I am, I suggest response 1 in this topic. It is the clear truth.

Dear John I kindly asked you one simple question and you answered about the ... weather. Could you answer please my question? Is it so difficult? We are not Zulu here? Aris

John, I am delighted you addressed the questions. Marcia's is a simple mind trying to make science friendly to the non-scientific and the young. Thank you for taking the questions. I am not qualified to do so. I just decorate the conference from time to time.

John, you have my devoted attention. I KNOW enough to know that you have the right research underway. My sympathies on your attacks. The last one I had was from a man who insisted all of the world's rocks were 6,000 years old. Merry Christmas All

John, I know enough to understand that YOU HAVE NO IDEA about what you measure. You can find the naswer to my question You and Thanasoulas in a High school Physics book. And the answer says that to measure correctly such a low frequency signal you need to use one antena with size, the size of the earth!!! Ofcourse with a resonant antena you cannot measure any frequency.... It is funny the way you give answers, by using your friends i.e. MarciaH. Nobody is attacking you. It is only in your virtual shadow world. Wake up John. Wake up. I still wait to have an answer from you. Can you give a straight answer on that against to answer about ... the weather!!! Merry Christmas All too! Aris

A note from your hostess in Geo: I have known John for a considerable amount of time. He is both honorable anda good scientiest. He never lies about his science. He searches for the truth in order to protect lives and to understand the dynamics of earthquakes. His detractors have never offered anything in place of his research. It is very easy to sit on the sidelines and take shots at someone willing to put their intellectual output online. Might I suggest constructive ideas rather than complaints?! Geo is a peaceful and happy place where love of science and the universe prevail.

Aris, what is really your problem? You are too angry to be refuting science. Please maintain decorum and address constructively the points you wish to make. Tirades will be deleted by this lady who has not tolerated them in the past and will not now. You are betraying your ignorance by attacking John. How many college degrees have you? In what? I think I might outrank you! Any further discussion will meet with my ultimate concern to keep this a welcoming Place NOT tolerating attacks on the character of the posters.

tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa- Dear Marcia I made one specific question to John because in my oppinion he has huge mistakes in his research. This is not attack! So, there is nothing personal against of him. It is just a scientific question. ================================ There is no attack. =================== I am afraid that in this forum you comfuse scientific questions with attacks. So, I kindly ask again one more time? ===================================== Can you measure using a resonant antena of length/2 equal to 50 m a frequency of electromagnetic wave equal to 0.1 Hz? The answer is no. Every scientist and a High school student knows that. For this reason I asked the oppinion of John about that. Is it bad? Marcia, it is not nice to attack me this way in order to cover the mistakes of John. Thanks for your hospitality Aris tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-

*Sigh* Earth sciences are as exciting as I need for life fulfillment. Thank you for responding again, Aris. Life is too short and science tootime consuming to waste it on disagreements. However, valid challenges to information are always thought provoking. That in itself is good. I believe the Greeks also discovered this a few thousand years ago. Predicting the weather is a whole different science. Good luck to anyone trying to do despite the satellite technology!

Another aside. John is not hiding. He is an equal host with me here in Geo. He has been invaluable and Geo would not be nearly as interesting without him. Post images if you have any. I'd be delighted to see where you live.

Dear Marcia I would like to post some pictures But I do not know how to do it. Any help? Aris

Email them to me at marci@aloha.net and I will FTP them to Geo's space on the Spring's hard drive. Then I will email you where they are and either you or I can post them. Are you familiar with html programing? There is a Greece topic on the travel conference. Might they be better suited for there? http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/travel/40

-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa- Dear Marci I was thinking to send some explanations about antenas using high-school mathematics and pictures. After that John (Mr.John) can make his comments. So, I will mail you a zip/html file with graphs (1 page totally). Let us enjoy Universe. Aris Varemenos Ganimidi, Rhodos -tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-

The Universe is amazing place. There is room enough for eternal contemplation of any intellect. It is even better to share. I will look forward to seeing your pictures and will make them available to you as soon as I can FTP them. Antennas are old friends of mine. When I was little ,I climbed trees to attach my father's antennas in them. Then I got to listen to the world.

Ok Mr Aris, You have exceeded every limit of the human decency! This is my last answer to you. You are completely wrong. 1. Have you heard music or anything else from a small portable receiver in the LW, MW, SW or FM bands? Do you use an antenna of half wavelength to do it? So, THE LENGTH OF THE ANTENNA DIMENSIONS IS NOT CRITICAL. 2. Wavelength = spread velocity/frequency (Physics) Can you think what will become the value of the wavelength if the spread velocity becomes extremely low? I must inform Geo members that your real target is to install a station similar to mine in Rhodos Island. You want to make money showing it to tourists. I can post here your personal e-mails to me. Once again my answer is NO. But better is you go away from Geo permanently. I suggest to our hostess to erase all of your responses here in two days, whatever name you use and independently of your answer. I apologize to all of the rest Geo members, because I am the reason for this bad situation. John

John it is not your fault. I am sorry I encouraged him. I am to blame as well. I fly back to Hilo on Sunday. Wish me well. I am frightened for the first time in my life.

Have a good and safe flying Marcia. Do not be afraid. Wishes of all Geo members are accompanying you. We will wait your good news from Hilo. Perhaps Madam Pele has a significant mission waiting for you there. John

Dear John At first take your pills. ========================== At second everybody knows that you have to change length of the antenna to get a bettter signal from a transmitter (earthquake). In other case it is posile to loose some signals and hence an earthquake. So, it is critical. I hope I exlained you your mistake and I am sorry that I can not teach you more. Marcy, I am sorry for John's level of defense. Aris Varemenos Ganimidi tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa -tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa -tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-

*SIGH* Gentlemen. In this season of good will, this is more than a little disheartening. Discussing wave lengths is a long and complicated one. I will remain out of it.

Dear John against all the attacks you made to me, as you are so close minded, prove the opposite by doing that. Meausure (use band pass filter) and make the analysis of your data (using FFT) in the area of frequnecy which corresponds the length of your antenna against the silly selection of 0.1Hz. Suppose �=1 and a mean value for �. Then I will be very happy to see your results. Your friend and teacher Aris tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa- tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa- tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa- tsatsa-tsatsa-tsatsa-

Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR JOHN, MARCIA and everybody Aris

Happy New Year Varemos.

Happy Holidays, Varemos and John and all others who will celebrate in Grecian style. Your heritage is rich and ancient. Enjoy!

Happy St. Basil's Day. (Sorry, if I'm late.)

Happy St John's Day

Happy St. John's Day John. I saw your last results and I found that you did some interested changes. I believe that you should use after a LowNoise amplifier/protection, one ADC to PC data logger with Sampling not lower than 4MS/s. Then inside the PC use a software band pass filter between 0.1 and 2MHz. Then show me the results. I am not happy to see results in the 24hours period at all. If you do that then both we can be very happy ... My regards Aris

Happy St. John's Day.

Hi all, Here is a complex daily updated graph that shows: Blue polar diagram: The mechanical energy that was arrived in my station area from each one occurred EQ during the last 6 + days. Light magenta polar diagram: My wide range ULF signals (direction and amplitude) for the previous day. Dark magenta polar diagram: My 24-hour period ULF signals (direction and amplitude) for the previous day. John

Here is the tidal gravity curve for March 2003: John

Hi all, Here is the STD curve of my wide range ULF Signals for the last 30 days: John

The increasing sophistication of your programming of graphics leaves me in awe. I look at them carefully and forget to note the data involved. I agree you will have a significant earthquake in Greece. Perhaps sooner than anticipated!

I miss John! I am worried about him!