~MarciaH
Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (00:34)
#201
OK thanks! I got notice of shipment of one today and one of the others is from a second hand dealer since it is out of print. However, the third might be redeemable. Not to worry; I will be buying a lot of books shortly. *;) More on that later.
~ekelley
Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (15:07)
#202
Karen, could you e-mail me a listing of them as well? Thanks!
~KarenR
Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (15:55)
#203
Liz, email you what????? I haven't a clue.
~ekelley
Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (23:31)
#204
aren't there certain urls that one can go through to amazon so that spring gets a percentage of the purchase? or did i totally misunderstand that previous string of messages?
~KarenR
Mon, Aug 5, 2002 (00:15)
#205
Yes, there's the general click-thru icon on the bottom of every topic here. I also have a page up at The Bucket, called The Boutique, which has all sorts of Firth and other items, specially listed so that you can click through on those. When you have a direct link (which you can make yourself if I don't have the item listed), then the rebate percentage is higher.
Here's the Bucket page which explains it all:
http://www.firth.com/boutiq.html
especially the DIY section at the bottom. If you need assistance, just let me know. I'd be glad to help out.
~ekelley
Tue, Aug 6, 2002 (20:07)
#206
great. Thank you!
~terry
Wed, Aug 7, 2002 (08:24)
#207
~terry
Wed, Aug 7, 2002 (08:27)
#208
The above link is for our UK friends who want to buy books on Amazon and allow their purchases to help the Spring, firth.com and austen.com with the expenses of running the site. So if you're in Great Britain, this is for you!
~terry
Fri, Aug 9, 2002 (10:54)
#209
Will micropayments work here?
http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=1696
is a reference to a site doing this?
~terry
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (08:33)
#210
I received a current bill for $320 for our bandwidth provider due by the end of the month and I ordered a new server which will cost $1400, I have $750 in the kitty so I am about $970 short. I need to come up with all of this before the end of the month. The purpose of the new server is for immediate backup (we have one now) and to provide a safety net if we start incurring heavy bandwidth charges and need to change providers. That way, we'll have our own hardware ready to startup at a new location. The present server, which we rent and do not own, costs $320 a month and has 70 gb of disk space. The new server, which I have $750 set aside for, will have 320 gb of disk space, dual Pentium 1000 processors, RAID redundancy and 512 mb ram (one memory stick with room for more).
Owning a server will allow me to shop around locally for a much better monthly deal and we'll have much more security in that we own the hardware.
Please send donations to:
Paul Terry Walhus
The Spring
182 Clover Rd
Cedar Creek, TX 78612
Or use the paypal link on the main page at http://www.spring.net
Thanks!!!
~wolf
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (12:54)
#211
Terry, I can make a donation on payday (the 1st) due to some current unforeseen circumstances. Thanks for your efforts on keeping this place going.
~terry
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (13:49)
#212
Thanks wolfie. I got $25 in so far today via Paypal. So I'm sending $775 to the vendor that's building the system and he'll hold it till I pay the rest. So that's $625 more I need to raise for the system and $320 for the months bandwidth charge. That $750 was all I had so I'm hoping for some contributions to cover the rest!
~lafn
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (14:18)
#213
Why don't you raise the money first and then buy the system.
The bandwith charge is a constant.
Just a thought....
~terry
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (14:22)
#214
I've been putting this off for so long, I don't like living dangerously and not having a decent backup if our rented system went down. At least I am able to get $750 in to the hands of the vendor that's building it today. The bandwidth charge varies, $320 is the *minimum* and we are starting to get bills for extra bandwidth. I want to be able to recover and switch over quickly if we get a bill for bandwidth that we can't afford or if something happens to our server.
Right now, we have no backup and I'm very uncomfortable with this. I don't want to end up in the position of having to start all over from scratch and losing all our content! That would not be good.
~KarenR
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (14:38)
#215
I quite agree with Evelyn. You pay your bills first and then save for the extras.
~terry
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (18:31)
#216
I agree we need to pay our bandwidth bill and that will be the next
expenditure. But I feel like it is essential we have a backup strategy in
case this server is attacked or crashes. And the new server has redundant
hard drives, something that would be cost prohibitive in a rental server
like we currently have. If the system went down now, there would be no
way to get back up and running quickly, it would take a week or more and
we would lose most of our content. I like the idea of having a safety net!
~terry
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (18:35)
#217
This is the server:
And this is the quote (not including a video card):
Next Basic System............................$1253.00
P3tdde
SC822I-300LP case
Dual cpus Intel P3 1000
512mb pc133 sdram
FD
Slim cd rom
Dual IBM 120 mb gb 7200rpm
Assembly
Insurance and handling........................$17.00
Grand total with TX sales tax..............$1374.78
~terry
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (18:41)
#218
This new system comes with two 120 gb IBM drives and I already have two
120 gb IBM drives. And it has room for two more. This would give us 960
gb storage with room for 240 gb more or a total of 1200 gb. We could
partition this in to two "mirrors" so if the main drive crashed or was
corrupted the mirror would be intact. Right now we have only a 40 gb and
a 20 gb drive and we are rapidly running out of space. I am spending a
lot of time daily cleaning up files and trying to keep the system from
filling up. It also has two processors which would make it substantially
faster.
~terry
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (18:58)
#219
The motherboard:
Target Segment High-end desktop, workstation, or internet applications
Form Factor ATX with PC99 color-coded double-deck I/O
Size: 11.6" x 11.2" (W x H)
Processor Support Dual or single Intel 370-pin Pentium III 1.40GHz-500MHz
processors
Chipset VIA Apollo Pro 266T
Front Side Bus 133/100MHz
Memory Up to 4 GB of PC133 SDRAM memory
I/O Expansion 5 32-bit 33MHz PCI bus mastering slots
1 4xAGP Pro
1 ACR
Onboard Devices Dual Ultra DMA (UDMA/100)
Promise ATA/100 onboard RAID 0, 1, 0+1
Burst data transfer rate supports UDMA Mode 5, PIO Mode 4, ATAPI
Intel 82559 Ethernet controller onboard
Up to Four USB (Universal Serial Bus) ports
PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse connectors
Two fast UART 16550 compatible serial ports
One ECP/EPP parallel port
One Infrared header
One floppy port
Chassis Compatibility ATX chassis
Fits SC822, SC811 chassis
PC Health Monitoring Onboard voltage monitors for CPU core, +2.5V, +3.3V,
+ 5V and + 12V Fan status monitor
CPU/chassis temperature monitoring
CPU fan auto-off in sleep mode
CPU overheat LED header
LED and control for chassis intrusion detection
System resource alert
Support for system management software
Auto-switching voltage regulator for CPU core, up to 20A of current
Wake-on-LAN allows for remote network management and configuration of the
PC, even in off-hours when the PC is turned off. This reduces the
complexity of managing the network.
Onboard auto-switching power regulator supports CPU core voltages from 1.3
~ 3.5 volts
Three tachometer fan connectors ( CPU, one chassis fan connector and one
thermal control overheat fan connector)
Keyboard wake-up from Soft-Off
Overheat LED indication connector
CPU frequency settings in BIOS setup
Power-up mode control upon recovery from AC power loss
Overheat backup fan connector for CPU protection
BIOS Features Supports ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface)
and APM (Advanced Power Management)
Slow blinking LED for Sleep State indicator
Main switch override mechanism. Power-up mode control upon recovery from
AC power loss
PC Health Monitoring protects your system from problems even before they
occur.
DMI support
ACPI/APM power management
RTC (Real-Time Clock) wakeup
External modem remote ring-on when system is in Soft-Off state
BIOS rescue hot keys for rescuing BIOS chip from flash failure
Hardware BIOS virus protection
Award 2Mb Flash ROM
Other Features ACPI/APM power management
Internal/external modem ring-on
Control of power-on mode for recovery from AC power loss
One WOL (Wake-On-LAN) connector
One chassis intrusion connector
Standard Retail Package One SUPER P3TDDE mainboard
One three-ended 40-pin IDE ribbon cable
One floppy ribbon cable
Two CPU cooling fans
One backpanel I/O shield
One BIOS/drivers CD
~MarciaH
Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (22:34)
#220
Wow!!!
~terry
Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (09:03)
#221
Just in. $200 from geo.
Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!
Our monthly rental is covered.
I have a $750 deposit in on the new server.
And I'll be able to make another $150 payment toward the new server.
So we'll be up to $900 on the server with another $500 to go, he'll ship
it as soon as I get this payment in to him.
We're very close to having a powerful server that will someday be the
future of Spring, Firth and Austen. It's exciting as we draw nearer.
~terry
Mon, Aug 26, 2002 (09:51)
#222
Another $50 in. That's $275 total, we're getting closer to the new server. Keep 'em coming, please!
~terry
Mon, Aug 26, 2002 (13:48)
#223
I have put down $1,000 total on the server now and have a 412.66 balance due on the new server. We're very close indeed.
To contribute, just go to Spring's main page at http://www.spring.net and click on the Paypal link. Or mail checks to:
The Spring
182 Clover Rd
Cedar Creek, TX 78612
I am very excited about having a "safety net" for this community, call it lifeboat or whatever, it will give us a comfort zone that we have never had before. I believe this will benefit us all.
~terry
Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (09:25)
#224
I have received $275 in contributions in the current effort so far. This almost covers our monthly rental payment. I'm making up the difference. So I could still use some help here to get this project off the ground.
The Spring
182 Clover Rd
Cedar Creek, TX 78612
or
Paypal on http://www.spring.net
or
http://www.spring.net/paypal
~terry
Fri, Sep 6, 2002 (14:03)
#225
I made up the difference in the monthly server rent. I'm still hoping some folks can chip in on the new server, we're at 85% disk space utilization on our prsent server and climbing rapidly. I'd at least like to get things backed up and have a reserve in the ready in case our only current server goes down.
Paypal on http://www.spring.net
or by mail:
The Spring
182 Clover Rd
Cedar Creek, TX 78612
~terry
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (04:54)
#226
Our discussion forums were "down" yesterday for about an hour because we exceed our "license limit" for the software we use called Yapp. I called and got an extension from Kaylene, maintainer of the software. This occurred around 5 pm yesterday, give or take.
The good news is that we had over 15,000 log ins in a 24 hour period, that's a lot! The flip side of this is that to get an unlimited license would cost us another $2300.
The new server I'm working on his higher priority than this right now, because we need more hard drive capacity and better performance. But the extended license is something to keep in mind as we grow and have more folks logging in. It may be time to offer "subscriptions" to those who want expanded services from spring.net such as email, web space, and access to private forums. We'll always be free, but we may need to offer more services in order to support our operations.
As always, I'm grateful for all the kind contributions via our Paypal link and though the mail. Keep 'em coming as every bit helps toward maintaining and expanding this web community of ours. Thanks all!
~terry
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (04:58)
#227
From Kaylene:
I reset the license file so that it would work again. This means that
your site received more than 15000 hits in a 24 hour period. When you
upgrade to a new server you should probaby upgrade to an unlimited
license.
Right now you have paid for a license which is normally 64 unix users
and and average of 6400 hits per day. Due to your mostly web usage I
have it implemented this as at most 15,000 hits per day. You really
should upgrade to an unlimited use license. It looks like Friday
September 20 you got 11,003 hits, and then today you got more than
15000. You are now consistently averaging more that 6400 hits per day.
You currently have a License worth $3,700.00. If you want to upgrade
your license without adding additional hours of support it will costs
$6,000 - $3,700 = $2,300.00. I would suggest you start saving for this.
I did not increase the number of hits beyound 15000 hits per day. The
next time you go above that limit you will experience this same problem
again.
~terry
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (08:51)
#228
To contribute:
http://www.spring.net/paypal
or by mail:
The Spring
182 Clover Road
Cedar Creek, TX 78612
What will you contributions go toward?
At present, toward a new server that will function as a backup and possible replacement for our current server if it passes muster. It will have 720 gb of hard drive storage as compared to our present 70 gb (which is 86% full!).
Thanks so much to all those who have contributed so far this month!
~lafn
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (11:42)
#229
Hmmmmm. Can I throw in a word that might be controversial...the "R" word.
"Restricted" meaning only donors would be able to log on.
Is that ever done on some sights?
How many donors do we have???
With 15,000 hits over 24 hrs.
Looks like a few people are paying for others;-)
~terry
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (11:48)
#230
I don't want to keep people out unless this is the consensus of the community.
Specific conferences can be limited to those on a user list. I'd need more input on
this from Karen et al before making any kind of move like this. The Spring gets
over a million hits a month, as does austen.com and firth.com.
We do get supported by a faithful few, and I'd like to see others who are able make
whatever contribution they are able. Even if it's $10, $20, $50 a year.
~Rika
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (13:05)
#231
Terry, you can use the web log data to look at hit rates by conference, right? Do you have a feel, on a conference-by-conference basis, for who's consuming the resources vs. who's contributing?
~KarenR
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (13:11)
#232
Sounds like it's time for me to get my annual fundraiser going.
Rika, Drool is the conference responsible for the vast majority of the hits. The rest is insignificant. Usage on The Bucket/firth.com and austen.com doesn't affect the license, as they don't use the Yapp software. However, I've never been able to see storage and processor stats that combine all of Terry's domains.
~Rika
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (16:48)
#233
Okay, another question. What constitutes a hit on Yapp? Is it the same as a page hit on a web server, or are they counted differently?
~KarenR
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (16:59)
#234
Same thing.
~terry
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (17:54)
#235
I believe they're the same, but I do have a question in to Kaylene about what her definition is, is it a login or is it any visit regardless of whether the person logs in or not. I'm waiting to hear from her on this.
~terry
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (22:53)
#236
"Hits are defined as anytime a page is displayed on a web machine"
Kaylene
~Rika
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (23:10)
#237
If it's counted the same as ordinary page hits, then it wouldn't be related to whether or not someone logged in (though the login, I suppose, might generate an extra hit). It would have to do with the number of page requests someone made, and that could be several per visit to a conference. So I would think if I visited Drool through the main page, read the new messages in four topics, and posted twice, that would be at least seven hits.
One reason I'm asking these questions is because I've been thinking about the fund raising efforts. Speaking as someone who's fairly new here and who's enjoying it, I'd like to give my fair share to support Drool, and in fact I have contributed twice in the three months that I've been here. I'm even willing to give more than my fair share, since I recognize that some people are going to choose to take a free ride if they have the opportunity. But I haven't a clue what a fair share would be, because I don't have good information on the total monthly costs or on the number of people who hang out here.
I realize that counting the number of unique lurkers is difficult if not impossible (unles Yapp creates cookies for that purpose and logs statistics), but I think it would be beneficial to try to quantify both the size of the community and the size of the financial obligation we jointly incur to whatever extent is possible.
~terry
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (23:24)
#238
Our base fixed cost is $320 per month for server rent.
Hardware is another cost which varies, the machine I'm putting together is running about $1400 for the base machine and $900 for the hard drives. I already mentioned the Yapp software costs (licensing). Karen and I both put a lot of our time in to this project, as do Marcia and several other authors (Ann Haker to name one). But these costs haven't been compensated to date. It's rare that we bring in enough in a given month to cover all our costs, but what we do get is vital and there is never any extra or any "profit" per se.
I don't know about the lurker thing, but I know the number is huge according to our web stats, see http://www.spring.net/webtrends and you'll get some clues. As to the size of the community, last time I looked there were about 1,000 unique people in the drool conference. That was 4-5 months ago, we've gained quite a bit since then.
I think I have about 400 email addresses that are pretty reliable for users of the system.
~Rika
Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (23:28)
#239
That's a start....
I may e-mail you about this.
~terry
Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (08:16)
#240
One approach might be to set up a "members only" area with discussions, content etc that were available to our contributors and subscribers. We could admit, naturally, everyone who's made significant contributions by default and create a "subscription" model where folks paid $5 a month or $50 a year for a username and password. Subscribers/contributors could also be offered premium email addresses such as mandy@firth.com or jane@austen.com, etc., web space on the new server, and we could produce a quarterly printed newsletter. Just ideas, I'm not saying I'm going to implement this yet. Just looking for feedback.
~lafn
Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (13:10)
#241
(Terry) Just ideas, I'm not saying I'm going to implement this yet. Just looking for feedback.
All good potential good ideas. Which would cover the monthly expenses.
And eliminate the end of the month money crunch.
Of course it all depends on the response of the immininet fund drive , doesn't it? I mean, if we get a good enough response, things might go on as is.
But 15,000 hits means a whole lot of folks are coming on free.
~Lizzajaneway
Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (14:23)
#242
I'll second the proposals / ideas.
we are always going to get "freeloaders" but I guess we should try and limit them;-)
~Rika
Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (15:08)
#243
I like the idea of having some "premium" features/content for subscribers. It's important to offer at least some access to content for free, because the way people get hooked is by being able to visit and read and find out what goes on before they have to make a commitment.
A possible first step would be (if Yapp supports this) to require people to register and get a Drool user name in order to read some of the conferences. A registration requirement is a barrier, but only a small one, and it would give us a feeling for who's out there.
~terry
Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (15:57)
#244
Another idea, and *all* of these ideas really need Karen's input, would be to set up a subscribers only area on the website, where subscribers could get premium content and information. Kind of like the news services do, they let you have the bulk of the news but save long premium stories for subscribers only areas. It's easy to set up a conference that is private and the host determines who gets access by maintaining a "ulist" or list of users. We've had conferences like these in the past. And we have a few now, you don't see them because they're private.
~lafn
Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (17:43)
#245
(Terry)And we have a few now, you don't see them because they're private.
Ah Ha...Terry.You mean as a long time donor, I'm not welcomed at all the conferences;-)
Shutting me out:-((((
~terry
Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (18:59)
#246
Well, not exactly, the private conferences have *nothing* to do with drool, Firth, Austen or any of the things that probably interest you. And they're very inactive right now. I'm talking about creating something that would appeal to the interests of those actively supporting and creating the major content areas here such as Firth, Austen and Fan Fiction.
~SBRobinson
Tue, Oct 1, 2002 (18:59)
#247
create a "subscription" model where folks paid $5 a month or $50 a year for a username and password
this sounds like a great idea to me :-)
~MarciaH
Sat, Oct 5, 2002 (13:07)
#248
Oh dear. Most of my devout readers and posters (minimal by Drool's standards) are second or third world people or young students who are putting themselves through college. It would mean the end of Geo to make them pay for a subscription!
~wolf
Sat, Oct 5, 2002 (21:24)
#249
i don't know about a subscription either. a lot of us volunteer our spare time to
make spring what it is today.....
~terry
Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (10:00)
#250
I would never prevent someone from getting to the main areas of the Spring, like
Geo. This is more in reference to getting to special subscriber only areas, and if
someone was in one of the categories you describe, they could easily get a "comp"
subscription, or complimentary subscription. Anyone who was a "devout poster" would
automatically get a subscription. There will be no end to Geo! That would be
unthinkable.
~wolf
Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (10:47)
#251
*whew*
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (10:55)
#252
Terry - Have you run the Webtrends report? Several people have indicated they'd like to see that stats.
~terry
Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (12:27)
#253
I have published the webtrends report but my license expires on the 15th, you need an account to see but I'll give a username and password to anyone who wants one.
The url is http://video.wholetech.com:1099
If anyone wants to login, use this generic account:
username: stats
password stats
~terry
Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (12:59)
#254
These reports will only be abailable until the 15th of this month, when our Webtrends license expires. So download whatever stats you need to your local machine, or, KarenR, feel free to save them on our webserver.
This reports are insancely complete., I wish I could afford this software but it's way out of our budget!
~lafn
Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (13:14)
#255
Personally I want to commend Terry for looking for ways to increase the funding.
He gets to pay the bills, after all.I am sure he doesn't like to go out every month requesting funds.
Wolfie we all appreciate all the effort you put in...as well as Marcia.
Money couldn't pay for what you both do for Spring.
I want to keep Spring free too...but as we know, it is public for viewing, but privately funded.
And when there are 15,000 hits in one day(???)and only an infinitismal percent of those give any money, I feel there is something wrong with this picture.
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 6, 2002 (13:28)
#256
The Annual Drool Fundraiser will kickoff tomorrow. I've made arrangements for a cheque collection point in the UK and if there are others who can have PayPal in other countries, let me know.
~KarenR
Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (14:06)
#257
Drool is kicking off its Annual Fund-Raising Drive.
Spring needs money in order to operate and we appreciate whatever people can send to help keep this place online every single day of the week. For this year's campaign, I'm hoping that the contributions will cover our operating expenses through the end of the year. As Terry has explained in the past, it costs approximately $300 a month to run Spring, which includes the conferences, The Bucket (firth.com) and austen.com, home to the Derbyshire Writers' Guild. Also, when we exceed our contractual allowance for bandwidth, there are variable charges for the excess.
From our usage statistics, we all know Drool is very popular but is financially supported by a small fraction of those who visit. Whether you have registered or read the boards in a public mode, it costs Spring money. We prefer to keep Drool open to the public and can only do so through your generosity and giving whatever you can to keep this wonderful place open.
This year, I've made arrangements with Lizza in the UK to collect cheques, which she can then send on to me. For other countries, we have alternatives that have worked fine in the past.
Our Drool boards are a source of enjoyment for many people, participants and lurkers alike. So if you'd like to make a contribution, please contact me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com for information, as no addresses will be posted on this board.
~lafn
Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (16:44)
#258
Cute , boss.Love the "Mom send $$$"LOL.
Think Colin could join in with a PSA for Spring?
Thanks Lizza for being the UK Money Bag;-) (no pun intended)
~Lizzajaneway
Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (17:48)
#259
None taken;-)
~wolf
Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (19:26)
#260
karen, you are so creative! luv the pics!!!
~MarciaH
Wed, Oct 9, 2002 (20:04)
#261
Terry, FTP is still not possible to Geo's hosts and files are having to be accessed from other net sources. For John's research this is NOT acceptable. Please help!
~terry
Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (06:11)
#262
I'll fix this today, email me and I'll respond right away with some tests. I need some more detailed information from you.
~terry
Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (07:48)
#263
I spent quite a bit of time on this and set up an automated procedure to reset your file permissions. Let's continue this discussion in topic 25 of the unix conference though, as it's more related to unix file permissions than to the current pledge drive.
Got a $50 contrib last night. Thanks!
I won't mention or publish any contributors publicly unless otherwise requested by the donor. One of our recent contributors asked for, and received a firth.com email address and webspace. Remember, if you contribute, there are all kinds of "perks"; all you have to do is ask if you've been a contributor.
~lafn
Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (10:30)
#264
(Terry) One of our recent contributors asked for, and received a firth.com email address and webspace. Remember, if you contribute, there are all kinds of "perks"; all you have to do is ask if you've been a contributor.
Fantastic, Terry.
Can you list the perks...or are they a secret;-)
~terry
Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (17:22)
#265
The primary ones are email and webspace and private conferences (if any one wants them as a group). Also, there's "shell access" for the more unix saavy which gives you lightning fast text only access to the conferences. You have "live" phone support from me whenever you need it. I'll think of more.
~KarenR
Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (17:55)
#266
You'd better cost some of those options out.
~terry
Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (21:03)
#267
Email and webspace won't cost much. Same with private conferences. Shell access is already enabled and uses less system resources than the web. A unix system like ours handles additional options pretty well. We could support a couple of thousand web/email/shell users pretty easily and we're only supporting a handful now.
~KarenR
Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (23:28)
#268
I know email doesn't.
~terry
Fri, Oct 11, 2002 (09:28)
#269
The only thing that hits us hard is disk space usage, and I'm building a solution for that and increasing vigilence in cleaning up what we have now (eg. compressing the logs more). So I would qualify supporting those kinds of numbers only if we limited personal disk space, but that wouldn't be as much of an issue with the new system.
~lafn
Fri, Oct 11, 2002 (11:50)
#270
I would strongly suggest that those perks have a quantified amount attached.
The email addy is one many Firth fans would covet....I would put say a minimum of $50. on that. Hey...that's less than 50 cents a day for Drool.
That's ludicrous.
The same with the other perks...(some of which I don't even know what they are;-)
~terry
Fri, Oct 11, 2002 (13:47)
#271
Sounds good, Evelyn.
~MarciaH
Mon, Oct 14, 2002 (00:47)
#272
I don't even remember how to access my spring.net email since I lost the ability to login on telnet. I'll have to learn it all over again, soon!
~terry
Mon, Oct 14, 2002 (12:02)
#273
You can use pop mail or ssh and use pine or elm.
~KarenR
Fri, Oct 18, 2002 (17:16)
#274
2002 Fund Raising Status!!
I want to thank all the wonderful people who have come forward, contacted me about making donations, and followed through with checks, money orders or PayPal transfers. So far we've collected $440, slightly less than half of our goal from the following:
What truly amazes me is that about a third of that amount is from our wonderful community of lurkers, who tell me how much they love it here at Drool and that it has become a fixture in their day. With the number of hits we get here, I know it is a daily *must visit* for many more who rely on Drool for current information on Colin and for the lively banter amongst die-hard Firthettes, with nothing better to do than paint their nails a deep crimson.
So, let's keep this fund drive rolling and I hope to hear from more of you soon. If you're in another country and want to make a contribution, please email me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com to discuss your options. Don't be among the other noncontributors in our Hall of Shame:
BTW, Evelyn, where's your check? *tap tap*
BTW2, if you haven't received an email from me, then I haven't received your contribution or notice of it.
~wolf
Fri, Oct 18, 2002 (22:25)
#275
*LAUGH* karen, you crack me up!! love the graphics!!!!!
~KarenR
Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (19:48)
#276
Annual Fund Raising Newsflash for Australian Springites
We're making it easier and easier to make international donations. For those who haven't availed themselves of PayPal, we now have new Country Rep for Australia. Jane Scott has volunteered to collect funds on our behalf and will be able to transmit them to us when this drive is through. You may contact her directly at gaea@mailcity.com for her mailing address or other questions.
~lafn
Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (20:17)
#277
THANKS, KAREN...
FOR ORGANIZING THIS FUNDRAISING.
BUT FOR YOU, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (20:42)
#278
How creative Droolians are ! Evelyn, I love your Thanx graphics. I may just borrow them...
Karen outdoes us all. She is sooooooo devoted and so good at what she does. Evelyn's right.
*Applause*
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (20:42)
#279
I expect to get a paypal to you shortly, Terry..... again!
~terry
Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (23:49)
#280
thank you!
~Lizzajaneway
Mon, Oct 21, 2002 (03:35)
#281
You are right Evelyn, Karen is "The Bees Knees!!!"
~Ann
Thu, Oct 24, 2002 (20:55)
#282
I'm about to send out a bunch of checks for $640 from the folks at Austen.com. They've also donated approximately $300 by Paypal.
~lafn
Thu, Oct 24, 2002 (21:17)
#283
That's wonderful Ann.Congrats...Thanks for all your efforts.
I am overwhelmed at the tremendous support.
~terry
Fri, Oct 25, 2002 (04:18)
#284
That's wonderful, what a great group of folks! This is indeed, as Evelyn
says, overwhelming. Thank you so much!
~KarenR
Fri, Oct 25, 2002 (11:36)
#285
Here they are!
These donors have been very generous in supporting Spring and helping us reach our goal. However, there are still pledges outstanding and, if I have not personally emailed you, then I haven't received it or notice of it. Please keep those donations coming in. If you don't know how to do so, contact me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com.
Even Colin knows a good thing when he sees it!
~KarenR
Thu, Oct 31, 2002 (12:03)
#286
Latest inductee to the Drool Hall of Shame
This individual took the time from his very important celebrity schedule to write and say he was making a donation to Drool,
his favorite fan club. But weeks later, a check has yet to arrive. Much as I hate to do this to such a talented guy and
obviously busy person, I feel I must.
As the fund-raising drive nears an end (not yet though as I'm waiting for some stragglers), I want to remind people it is not
too late to show your appreciation for Drool by making a donation. Every little bit helps insure that Terry will not have to
make his monthly appeals or when his property taxes are due. ;-)
If I have not personally thanked you by email, then I haven't received your donation or notification of it from Terry. Please
contact me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com for instructions or addresses. In addition, I can take Paypal donations myself at my other
email address which can expedite things.
Thanks again to everyone for their continuing generosity.
BTW, this was your Halloween trick. ;-)
~lindak
Thu, Oct 31, 2002 (12:29)
#287
(Karen)BTW, this was your Halloween trick. ;-)
Does this mean a treat is in store, later, perhaps?
~terry
Thu, Nov 7, 2002 (12:50)
#288
We've raised enough for two full payments at least.
~KarenR
Thu, Nov 28, 2002 (23:42)
#289
On Thanksgiving, it seems very appropriate to close out the 2002 Fund Raiser and give one more round of thanks to all those who have so generously given their support to Drool. Here's the latest batch of Drool Darlings:
Together, with these fine people listed below, Drool has raised $2,200 this year. With the $880 raised by austen.com's latest fund-raising drive, this should keep Spring in operation all the way through June of next year. Excellent results and very much appreciated.
Thank you so much. *smooch*
~Rika
Thu, Nov 28, 2002 (23:55)
#290
What a terrific result! Thanks, Karen, for doing such a great job of coordinating the campaign.
~lafn
Fri, Nov 29, 2002 (09:40)
#291
Thanks, Boss.
~terry
Fri, Nov 29, 2002 (13:02)
#292
Yes thank you Karen!.
~wolf
Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (12:58)
#293
Evelyn, I love your smooching smileys!
~lafn
Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (13:09)
#294
~lafn
Sat, Nov 30, 2002 (13:29)
#295
(Sorry for the MIA message...)
Thank you, Wolfie...
You know what they say..."A picture says...."
~KarenR
Mon, Dec 2, 2002 (14:07)
#296
The *complete* list (hopefully!) and alphabetized for your reading pleasure:
~lafn
Mon, Dec 2, 2002 (14:35)
#297
Pretty impressive.
A Great Big Smooch
To all who are keeping Drool alive and banner-free.
Thanks Karen and Terry
PS We sure have lotta Kathys!
~terry
Wed, Dec 11, 2002 (11:56)
#298
Thanks, in part, to the contributions received though our pledge drive I
was able to ship a new server off to our hosting facility yesterday.
It's a Supermicro server with twin PIII 933 MHz processors, 512 mb ram,
720 gbs of hard drive space or six 120 gb hard drives. We presently have
a 40 gb and a 30 gb drive or 70 gigabytes. The new server is a 2U
rackmount box with twin ethernet connections, 2 pci slots and an agp slot.
It has hardware RAID for data security and backup.
It should arrive at our hosting facility next Tuesday and it will take
about two weeks to get it up and running and get all our data moved from
this system to the new system. I'm hoping we can put it online on January
1st. All the data from the old system will be archived on the new system
and I may even purchase the old drives from the hosting company and put
them on a shelf for an emergency although the new system will have plenty
of built in safeguards.
I've been testing it for two months and it should be fairly stable. I was
talking to Ann Haker yesterday, and the new administration system we're
going to install on it will be much more useful for content people like
her and Karen. We're installing something called EZ Admin which gives
authors far more control over their web sites and allows them the ability
to create their own users and manage things more effectively.
One giant step for the Spring, thanks to everyones super efforts!
~MarciaH
Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (14:03)
#299
Generous Geoites are unknown to mebutI suspect it is only me plusa few others. My audience/posters are students mostly from far poorer countries than the North American ones. *sigh* but I did get a post by a grateful mom whose son had used Geo to research a paper for school. That was very nice!
Terry, I'll send my donation as soon as I get home and can get the banking figured out. Someone NOT of my acquaintance is charging things to my debit card on AOL. *fume*
~terry
Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (18:54)
#300
That's debit card thing sounds like identity theft. Not cool!
Thanks for the thoughts.