Introductions — Justice

~terry Thu, May 14, 1998 (21:56) seed

Daniel Cardenas emailed me today and asked me to create a new conference on the Spring. This is it. Justice. It's all about crime, justice and the criminal justice system. I'm Paul Terry Walhus, Austinite. I wish Daniel the best of luck in this conference and hope it prospers and we have some meaningful conversations about crime and punishment and the system of justice in the US and the world. Thanks Daniel for starting this up!

~autumn Fri, May 22, 1998 (01:30) #1

Woo woo! First one to arrive at justice...

~KitchenManager Fri, May 22, 1998 (02:01) #2

are you going to share? shall there be justice for all?

~autumn Sat, May 23, 1998 (22:35) #3

Yes, and I'm willing to throw in liberty too! I'm just that kind of person!

~KitchenManager Wed, Jun 3, 1998 (15:31) #4

MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE 1998 Regular Session To: Judiciary A By: Representative Moak House Bill 196 AN ACT TO AUTHORIZE THE REMOVAL OF A BODY PART IN LIEU OF OTHER SENTENCES IMPOSED BY THE COURT FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LAW; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI: SECTION 1. In lieu of any other penalty prescribed by law, the court may allow any person who is convicted for a violation of the Controlled Substances Law to have a body part removed. The convicted person and the court must agree on which body part shall be removed. SECTION 2. This act shall take effect and be in force from and after July 1, 1998.

~KitchenManager Wed, Jun 3, 1998 (15:32) #5

It died in committee, according to the Mississippi Legislature page.

~jgross5 Wed, Jun 3, 1998 (15:51) #6

it's all true i was there they were goin' over it in committee and everything and i just happen to pull out from under my cardigan, a body part of mine that i had handy it was completely detached it was one of those kind that i hear often get made into wallets when they saw it, they basically all said in unison, "HOLY jeezez, let's not do this. not such a good idea after all. strike it from any further proceedings. Gawud, we need a keg! it's so friggin hot today! Mildred, is that Chester out there wheelin' in the beer? Well get the door!"

~stacey Wed, Jun 3, 1998 (16:26) #7

justice... raise your hand if you think justice is a synonym for fairness?? nope. wrong. not in this country baby. shall I vent about the inequality in sentencing, in due process, in appeallate courts. shall I go on about corruption (even though I have zero proof), apathy and assorted hodge-podge. or shall I march my stomping, child-advocating feet over to 'vent at will' and do it there?

~KitchenManager Wed, Jun 3, 1998 (16:34) #8

start a topic on Child Advocacy I say

~stacey Thu, Jun 4, 1998 (14:13) #9

it'll get me all worked up

~KitchenManager Thu, Jun 4, 1998 (14:26) #10

hot and sweaty like or moist and mean like?

~riette Thu, Jun 4, 1998 (14:33) #11

Good idea, Wer - no, not the moist and mean bit. The Child advocacy bit. I know nothing about it, but I know kids don't have it exactly fair in this world. It's because their fate lies in adult hands.

~stacey Thu, Jun 4, 1998 (15:36) #12

so we can all sit around and gripe about it or actually attempt to make a difference. No topic needed.

~autumn Fri, Jun 5, 1998 (22:59) #13

No lack of proof either that it's needed....

~TIM Sun, Nov 15, 1998 (12:22) #14

Actually children are just the tip of the iceburg. The system is set up to prey on the defenceless.

~aschuth Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (15:38) #15

I would like regulars of this conference invite to visit the International Conflicts conference here on the Spring: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/InternationalConflicts/all This conference is dedicated to the disputes between groups all over the world, be that social, cultural, political or ethnical differences.

~moulton Mon, Jul 12, 1999 (10:22) #16

I've recently begun to analyze our system of justice. I found the bug in the code. It's at Line 1 of the Code of Justice. They forget Line 0. If they put in Line 0, the rest of it isn't needed.

~KitchenManager Tue, Jul 13, 1999 (03:41) #17

and what should Line 0 read?

~moulton Wed, Jul 14, 1999 (11:37) #18

Line #0 should be an entry into the Best Practices for Civility. The Civility Code. Uncommon common sense.

~KitchenManager Thu, Jul 15, 1999 (00:34) #19

common sense seems to be most uncommon amongst the people that surround me daily...

~MarciaH Thu, Jul 15, 1999 (00:40) #20

It is the least common commodity world wide and make a lie of the very name.

~moulton Tue, Jul 20, 1999 (18:08) #21

That is correct. Common sense is uncommon. Little by little science uncovers another element of common sense, proving how elusive it is.