wer, please check out projects. Also, anyone interested in a little paying gig on our cs site, check out projects childrenstory topic (requires some understanding of webtv).

will do...

Welcome heidi and karen as hostesses of Drool!

WELCOME!!! I thought Nan was hostess all along. Is she coming to inner, or what? What is going on in there??

Evelyn Boake was the previous droolhostess. And she is passing the baton on to Heidi and Karen. I think I got Heidi spelled right that time!

Any new topic ideas anyone? Does anyone have a burning passion that would be fun to talk about? Ideas?

Java! It's my new thing to learn, and I'm rather hoping it will get me a very good job after graduation!

Sure, what conference should we put it in? computer? web?

since it's really just another programming language, how about putting it in computer and linking it to web?

Sure, you want to start it, Ray? We don't have a java topic now? I'll talk to you about Java.

sure!

"It's a software initiative that could decide who owns corporate desktops for the next 10 years. More vaporware from Microsoft Corp.? Hardly. This time, it's IBM Corp. taking the offensive. Indeed, IBM (NYSE:IBM) has drawn up a strategic blueprint to transform its enterprise business into an electronic-commerce powerhouse that spans millions of corporate desktops. In addition to betting the bank on Java, the blueprint calls for IBM to pump up Netscape's desktop business, head off Microsoft's Web browser and aggressively push OS/2 Warp customers onto other platforms. ... read more and comment in the computer conference topic on java. ratthang, would you mind linking this to the web conference, cause I keep going there to look for this.

can i do that? i thought only hosts of confs could do things like that and AFAIK i dont host this conf or the web conf!

yeah, yeah, yeah...I'll do it...

We can add you if you want, Ray.

wer: hahaha!!!! ray and terry: see, it worked *heehee* i see java stuff everywhere but don't understand what it means. i know it's another code and all that but what can it do? and please explain appelets to me-there is a site on the web with a picture of a wolf sitting by a body of water and the bottom half of the picture is a reflection of said wolf with ripples in the water. HOW does that work? and is it tedious?

java is a programming language developed by some engineers at sun microsystems. the big deal about java was that it was designed to operate on any computer platform, whether Windows, Unix, Mac, etc. another important aspect of Java is that it was designed to run across networks, so that the programs could transmit themselves across a network to operate and that they could also transmit information across networks. if you already know how to program in C++ or another OO language then Java is actually pretty easy to learn. Otherwise it would be daunting for a beginner to pick up. the wolf near water you are looking at is a java applet. applets are small programs that run inside of web browsers that do any cool things you want them to, all written in java.

so where can i learn this stuff? is it easy to pick up like html? should i move this discussion to web????? am i asking too many questions? help!!

Sure, talk to us in web. I'm sure there's an html topic or two there. There are many resources for learning html on the web itself. Try doing a web search in http://www.infind.com and type the words html resources or html tutorial or html class and see what it brings back. What kind of system and software are you running, wolfie?

windows 95, compaq pentium. html is okay, as i learn it as i go, but the other stuff--so, i'll do the search and will probably join web. thanks!!

There's also a great book with color illustrations but I'm not at home now to pull it off the shelf. It has a yellow border and is full of good examples. Let us know what your search unveils ok? Maybe we can post some of the better instructional sites in the web conference or perhaps even make a page of links. I use FrontPage for ease of use, but for years I've mostly coded html using the simplest of text editors like Windows Notepad.

i'd really like to know if a code exists to put pictures where you want them-- i.e., center them in relation to each other (if one is bigger than the one next to it) have smaller graphics sprinkled about without having to edit them into wallpaper---that kind of stuff. i tried doing it with the front page thingy i've got with this system but to no avail. will look about and let you guys know. i can't be the only one with questions!

try using dynamic HTML (DHTML). there is a DHTML editor called Astound that might be useful, wolfie. you might also try some creative use of tables or frames in regular HTML. what i would do in that situation is to simply lay the pictures out the way i want using a photo editor (e.g., PaintShop Pro) then just merging them all into one bigass gif or JPG.

yeah but wouldn't that take some time to download? the page would take forever to load up! i've heard of dhtml but don't know anything about it...thanks.....

William, please check the projects conference for some notes about what Evelyn needs, eg. getting Heidi and Karen set up to push content. When we get a little further along, wolfie, you can have a front page enabled website here which will make it a lot easier.

Ree didn't check in last night!

New! Topic 55 in music: The Beatles.

The weather in Austin is getting out of hand. See topic 31 in the austin conference.

Topic 27 in cars: car jokes Find the car you drive in the list of cars and their personalities.

tv. ally mcbeal. Ally jumps on John Ritters face.

Bruce Sterling Establishes "Viridian List" If you watch the news, you may have noticed that we Texans have had a summer of unprecedent heat and drought, followed by an autumn of unprecedented floods. I have therefore started a new, second mailing list, which will center around 21st century Green design issues. The new "Viridian Mailing List" seeks a historical understanding of technology, society, and their future trends, centering around the Greenhouse Effect. Unlike Dead Media, which has been very calm and scholarly, this Viridian list will probably be rather strident and opinionated. If you would like to join the Viridian List, send me email. I will send you the 6,633-word text of my recent San Francisco lecture, in which I vent some of my strong feelings on this subject. Bruce Sterling (bruces@well.com) Where can we start a topic on this? Which conference and what would the topic be called. Any suggestions?

hmmm...how about spirit since that is where saving the world started... or put it in cultures...

That sounds sensible.

topic 333 in apps: What are buddy lists? Read Microsofts astonishing press release. Is this the beginning of the end for ICQ? Can you find our newby from China? I hope he keeps coming back. End male topic creation dominance!

y2k Talk about it in Internet 31 (internet conference topic 31). " For those absent in byline, I'm being bombarded with vitriolic and often bizarre email about my story last week, "Y2K: The Missionary Position." I'd be interested to know what folks think of the criticisms at... http://www.wired.com/news/news/wiredview/story/15875.html One person who wrote directly to me accused me of blaming Christians for the Y2K problems." _ Joe Nickell, Wired writer

This is the first post in this topic on the new site.

I see that it was just 22 minutes before the beginning of February. You must have slept well that night! Congratulations, again!

I didn't sleep at all that night!

Autsch!

alex! hey dude, how ya been?

Ouch, indeed! Poor Terry. I also know another man who has spent an uncommonly vast number of hours laboring on our behalf. I wish I could hug you and let you know in person how much I appreciate the angst and sleep-deprivation you have undergone in the past weeks. My gratitude knows no bounds! Thanks, guys!

[Oi, Wolfspaws, how's ya 'n' yer pack doin' these days? Me hoppin' about and smackin' stuff over the head, gettin' things seen to. Mags shipping to print in - waiddaminute - 10 days. Printshop -10, but I'm in a better shape than usual. Wait three, four days, then I might be a nervous wreck as usual, but right now, nerves cool, good sleep, hands don't shake. And still stuff gets done. Looks like we got some of the kinks in production figured out - there are some more, but we know about them, and pack 'em in next time.]

am happy for ya, alex!!

Wolfie, are you ok? You sound down...*hugs*

yeah, i'm fine...thanks for asking! *hugs*

Motorcycle farm vc business A few of the places that I've posted today.