Here's some stuff I found on a website called "The Celtic Heart." I had no idea that a Celtic astrology chart existed, but so it does and it's very interesting. I'm going to post it in sections, since it's quite long. BETH; Dec. 24-Jan. 21 Tree: Birch Symbol: White Stag Those born under the sign of Beth have a gift for creating amazing and wonderful things. The lunar influences surrounding this sign bestow abilities and talents for building things that last and are of great value. Beth people have tenacity, practicality, good judgement and patience. There is great charm here and success comes easily when self-criticism ceases. The Birch is flexible, steady, rooted in strength as it reaches toward the limitless sky. Beth is the first letter of the Ogham alphabet. The great Celtic stag carries the spirit of the first forest. His power brings connection with unseen possibilities. Stag energy is full with gentleness, loyalty, and courage. Honoring intuition brings success. LUIS; Jan. 22-Feb. 18 Tree: Rowan Symbol: Dragon Those who are born under the sign of the Celtic month Luis are blessed with quickness of mind, inspiration, and a gift for communication of all kinds. Rowan's legendary ability to absorb a bolt of lightning has made it a tree of inspiration and power. The mighty Rowan is a reminder that nature and the land have powers to inspire and guide you. Special care must be given to honor both the realms of practicality and inspiration. Dragon is a protector of the great Celtic treasure. The ancient Fire Drago keeps the secrets and visions of the bards. The great treasure of the Dragon is the magical wisdom of the Druids. The great Celtic Festival of Fire, Imbolc, is Feb. 2.

NION; Feb. 19-Mar. 18 Tree: Ash Symbol: Merfolk The sign Nion brings gifts of understanding, intuition and empathy to those born under it. Many great bards, poets and magicians are associated with this lunar sign. Gwyddion, the greatest storyteller of ancient times, possessed all the magical gifts of Nion. The mighty ash brings inner strength, a peaceful spirit, and the ability to overcome all obstacles. Ash is one of the most sacred trees to the Celts. The Merfolk inhabit the seas, appearing to humans on rare occasions. Celtic legends tell of an ient times when the Celts lived in a mystical land beneath the waves. The Merfolk bring the gift of memory and vision to those born under the month of Nion. FEARN; Mar. 19-Apr. 15 Tree: Alder Symbol: Falcon Fearn is rich in mystic tradition. Boldness, independence, and dynamic action are all part of the character of those born under the sign Fearn. The legendary hero, Bran, is strongly associated with the red branch of the alder tree. The redness of the alder is a reminder that sometimes, intense spirit need to be tempered with thought. This is a time of year when baby animals are born and the world is renewed. Falcon flies over the land and surveys all that is new, all that is possible, and all that wi l be. Those born in the month of the ash share keen insight of the Falcon. The Celtic spring festival of the Vernal Equinox is on Mar. 21. SAILLE; Apr. 16-May 14 Tree: Willow Symbol: Sea Serpent Saille is a sign of Earth mysteries, psychic gifts, and healing. From earliest times, the willow has been a sacred tree. Willow's deep roots connect the Faery realm with the land of the Celts. People born under this sign often possess a gift for seeing what others may miss seeing. Saille people often have a long, clear memory. Willow trees are associated with Danu, Ceridwen, and the Druids. An ancient sea serpent swims to the remotest depths of the sea, and like the willow, brings hidden knowledge t the surface. Cirein Croin, the Scottish sea serpent of legend, is said to be the largest of all living creatures. May Day, the ancient Celtic celebration of Beltane, is May 1. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

UATH; May 15-June 12 Tree: Hawthorn Symbol: Chalice Those born under the sign of Uath are often able to charm those around them without effort. Talents are many for those born at this time of year including a flair for the dramatic and a strong sense of self. Uath favors actors, artists, dancers, and politicians. Skill at subtle negotiation and diplomacy are also common. Hawthorn stands quietly in strength and knowledge. The chalice of Celtic legend, the Grail cup, and Dagda's inexhaustible cauldron, are all symbols of the gifts that flow to those who are worthy. Chalices and cauldrons represent the ancient caves and wells of Ireland, from which all good things flow freely to those who honor the land. DUIR; June 13-Jul. 9 Tree: Oak Symbol: Horse Duir is the month of the great oak. It is from this tree that the Druids got their name. The word Druid means "oak knowledge." People born under this sign have a natural affinity for religious or spiritual matters. Healers, artists, and visionaries are often born in Duir. The oak stands strong and wise as the Summer Solstice, the longest day of the year, passes on June 21. Those born in the month Duir who study and learn skills are capable of deep understanding. The horse is the great love of the Ce tic people. Tales of the strength, courage, beauty, and faithfulness of the horse fill Celtic legends. The horse's balance of strength and beauty is celebrated in Epona. TINNE; Jul. 10-Aug. 6 Tree: Holly Symbol: Lion The month of Tinne is a time of putting things in order. Those born under this sign have a special gift for figuring out difficult problems and puzzles. They are often people of great patience and kindness, who delight in mental games. Tinne people are often lucky. Tinne's plant is holly. Holly is favored in Celtic religious and festive celebrations. The holly's sharp leaves are a reminder to temper kindness with caution. The lion, like the cat, is a symbol of skill, intuition, strength, and agilit . The Irish say, "Nature shines through the cat's eyes." The energy of the great cat balances the generous, giving nature of those born in the month of Tinne. The Celtic harvest festival Lugnasadh is celebrated on Aug. 1. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

COLL; Aug. 7-Sept. 2 Tree: Hazel Symbol: Salmon Coll is the month of Hazel, the Celtic "Tree of Wisdom." People born in the month of Coll have a gift for intuition and great wisdom. They often make excellent scholars, poets, and scientists. Inner journeys are the key to unlocking the special gifts of Coll people. Hazel branches are used as divining rods to uncover earth's hidden springs. In Celtic legend, salmon ate the Nine Hazels of Wisdom and knew all things. A Druid told his servant, the boy Fionn MacCumaill, to cook the salmon, but not eat a bit of it. Fionn burned his finger when he poked the salmon and licked it to cool the burn. At that moment, all knowledge left the salmon and entered Fionn. MUIN; Sept. 3-Sept. 30 Tree: Vine Symbol: Swan Muin heralds a time of full ripening and pleasures of the senses. Those born in the month of Muin are expressive and feel emotions strongly. Often they are engaged in lifelong pursuits that benefit others. A love of beauty, home, and companionship are often major influence on decisions. Vine twists and spirals through the life of Muin people, connecting all things. Close lifelong friendships are common for people born under this sign. Swan stories are an important part of Celtic tradition. For gene ations, Celtic bards tell many a tale of those who took the form of graceful swans. This creature is closely connected with enchantment and the Faery realm. Autumnal Equinox is celebrated on Sept. 23.

this is very interesting. according to this stuff, i'm associated with uath. hmmm....

So am I...and I guess Amy is as well...hmmm....

What happened to the folks born between Sept 30 and Dec 24?? There is no reading for them! Thanks for posting this, Amy!!!

Happy Samhain, all you Celtic types! GORT; Oct. 1-Oct. 29 Tree: Ivy Symbol: Faery Those born in the month of Gort possess strength, tenacity, and a deep connection with the past. They are often drawn to the study of ancient cultures, legends, and the mystical arts. Strong psychic skills and charisma are common in Gort people. Ivy is a bridge between the world of the Faery realm and the world of humans. The strength, mystery, and beauty of ivy delight the senses. Faeries, the good folk of the Sidhe, once walked the human realm as the Tuatha De Danaan. The Faery folk bring gifts of insight, vivid dreams, and enchantment, especially to those born in the month of ivy. The Faeries are playful during the month of Gort and are often seen in the form of butterflies. NGETAL; Oct. 30-Nov. 27 Tree: Reed Symbol: White Hound Ngetal is a month of great power and mystery. Those born at this time are known for their strength, stability, and good judgment. They command respect and admiration from those around them. Reed people have the ability to see many sides of a situation. The reed lives in both water and earth gaining strength and power from both. People born in the month of the reed are often influential and attract many admirers. The swift white hound is ally and friend to those born in Ngetal. This creature of spir t and matter is the companion of leaders. Ancient Celts told of the hound's sleek, efficient power. The Celtic new year Samhain is celebrated on Nov. 1. RUIS; Nov. 28-Dec. 23 Tree: Elder Symbol: Raven Ruis is the month of deep knowing and understanding. Those born under the sign of Ruis are curious, patient, and fair-minded. They often appear older than they are in youth, and younger as they grow older. The gifts of subtlety, healing, and a connection with the cycles of nature are often seen in Ruis people. The elder tree stands at the end of the cycle of renewal and awaits the coming spring. This is the time of the Celtic Yule. Raven flies through space and time carrying the wisdom of nature's c cles of birth, death, and return. Mystery, magic, and the future all accompany the raven. Winter Solstice, the longest night of the year, is celebrated on Dec. 21.

ROTFLMAO!!!! Guys, this last one is mine! Curious, patient, fair-minded, older than I am in youth, younger as I grow older, subtle, healing ... the list of my gentle character traits is like a melody - it lingers!

*lol* amy, do you have to be irish for these to apply?

Hmm, I don't know...maybe just Celtic.

Ok, I am! (somehow?) At least there were some of those guys around here, many years ago...and I have freckles...is this sufficient?

Hmm...can you hold your liquor? Are you naturally melancholy? Is green your favorite color? I should make a list, like the "You might be a redneck" list, for "You might be Irish (or Celtic) if..." Someone has probably already done that somewhere.

If you have any European ancestry unless you are pure Finnish or far Nordic, the Celtic men had their way with your greatx100-grandmother in which case there were little hapa-Celtic kiddies running around to grow up and mate with the little boys who came with the next wave of migration. We all seem to have some blood in there somewhere - it comes to the surface at odd times!

Oh, those naughty Celtic boyos! You know, the priests made the Irish dance with their arms down stiffly to their sides because the way they danced was too lewd! (Just thought you might find that interesting.)

haha!! so that's why they dance that way!!!! well, there is some irish on my dad's side so i guess i qualify for this topic *grin*

C�ad M�le F�ilte, Wolf! If you have even a little bit of Irish in you, you qualify!

Even the Scots-Irish my father refused to recognize counts with the russet overtones in my hair...

Do you have any idea what they were doing with their hands before that was considered lewd? Inquiring minds want to know... In hula one is admonished to keep the eyes on the hands...but that is to keep them off of other more suggestive places!

I can only guess what they were doing with their hands...I actually heard that story from Michael Flatley, who was giving an interview on Bravo. He said that he wanted to put the arm movement back into Irish dancing (which, if you've seen him, he doesn't always keep his arms down,) as well as some other, non-lewd things that had been taken out for whatever reason.

He has gotten so far afield from true Celtic dancing and into showbiz glitz that the last PBS show he did was an affront...or was it just me?

Well, I think it's the difference between American Irish dancing and Irish Irish dancing. In Ireland, the rules are EXTREMELY strict--teachers have to be certified through Dublin, kicks can only be so high, costumes have to be all the same type, girls must always wear ringlets, and there are certain moves that boys don't do, and things like that. I think in the United States, however, the rules are much looser so Irish dancing is evolving while still keeping its uniqueness (crossed feet, stiff legs, shu fles, that kind of thing.)

Please keep it classic - or its appeal will disappear as it blurs into other forms of breakdancing or whichever way it mutates. Bouncing ringlets are lovely, btw, especially if your hair is strawberry blonde *grin*

I don't think it's going to go that far and still be recognizable as Irish dancing, at least as long as there are teachers who know what they're doing. It wouldn't be Irish dancing if the feet weren't crossed at all times with one knee in front of the other--that's the main thing. Alas, I have no more ringlets--I'd have to wear one of those strange little half-wigs so that it would look like I had long hair!

...and pray that it stayed in place and attached to you through the entire workout (which appears to be quite vigorous). Have the dancers thighs and buns of steel from all of that footwork? Do the Irish ever sword dance like the Scots?

Nope, sword dancing is just a Scottish thing. I think it would be very hard to mince over swords like that without using one's arms for balance... Irish dancing is very hard on the legs and most professional dancers you see have legs like little sticks. It's very hard on the knees and ankles, and you wouldn't think this, but it's terrible on the toes. When I was dancing, I couldn't wear open-toed shoes because my feet looked just awful.

...and pray that it stayed in place and attached to you through the entire workout (which appears to be quite vigorous). Have the dancers thighs and buns of steel from all of that footwork? Do the Irish ever sword dance like the Scots?

Mincing over swords - how funny and how true!!! One definitely needs one's arms for all that maneuvering. I noted that their legs were thin - where are the muscles you use? Your buns MUST be steel!!! (Toes and dancing just do not get along - in Ballroom, they are getting trod on; in ballet it is the worst - like Chinese foot-binding!)

I've heard ballet dancers have very ugly feet, too... Directly after my dance class (when the ballroom was stinking to high heaven from all of our sweating,) the ballroom dance class would come in, and they always had on the most unbelievable shoes! How women could dance very well in such spiky little heels, I have no idea. I had a dance class when I was a freshman (stupid PE requirement,) and my partner was very bad so I had to drag her through all the dances, and she was always stepping on my feet, too!

You haven't lived till you have been invited to join Dahncing Clahss determined to make you presentable to Society (with a capital S). It begins in 6th grade and you wear little patent-leather shoes and white socks and white gloves and have to Dahnce with little boys who are also in the 6th grade and who are not as tall as you are and grab your butt to "stear" you around the floor. It is downhill from there!

ok....they "STEER" you around the floor and slip the worms they have in their pockets into your gloves while you try to wriggle away from them without getting a disapproving look from the instructors...suffer...suffer...and look what good it did me *lol*

Oh dear, and I thought square dancing in junior high PE (when the boys tried to promenade you by dragging you,) was bad enough!

I remember that...I did not weigh much and I can recall one evening when I was flung from one guy to another without touching the floor all evening...it was very odd. That was my Freshman year in college and the guys were stoked on testosterone, I guess. I had almost forgotten...

HA-HA! So THAT'S what those guys were trying to do back then - they were trying to lift one! Proud to say they NEVER managed it with me! Oh $hit no, THAT'S not a thing to be proud of!

can i interject? michael whatever his name is vain. i can't stand the man. let the irish dance stay the way it was intended and don't change it to americanize it.

Ree, you are quite right about that! "Back then..." Have men and boys changed that much in the years since I was a Freshman? Wolfie, I agree totally. The man (Michael Flatly or however he spells it) lost me on the last PBS special. Nauseating! Self-promotion of the worst sort. (Guess I am a purist at heart...)

Marcia, no, probably not. But I can't say a man has tried to lift me recently. The last time was on my wedding day when Chris tried to carry me across the threshold and his back went 'click' - and that was it. He never dared try it again! Actually, I don't think ANY male person has ever managed to lift me off the ground! ha-ha!!! I've never seen that Michael person. But I have to say I also dislike it when tradition gets turned into a pi$$ing contest.

That is exactly what it has turned into...! Big buck and tradition be damned! To be fair, Chris was carrying his whole family across the threshold that eventful day. No wonder his back went 'click'!

i must say that the AM can still carry me around. not that he wishes he'd have more chances to do so, mind you.

Oooh, that is lovely! I think just about anyone can carry me around, but not many offers...except from the most discerning. *grin*

That's cute, Wolfie. And Marcia, how LUCKY can one person get to be so petite??? Chris NEVER tried again with me! ha-ha! Actually, he's invited me out for dinner tonight - I have to get him to carry me at some point, just to see what it is; am I too heavy, or is he too weak??? My grandma is 70, and also quite tiny. I always carry her around when she gets mad at me - then she starts to giggle all over the place!

*lol*

The only problem with being petite and having L o n g legs is that my jeans tend to look like they go on forever...same with long arms and neck. One must dress properly so as to look proportional (though I got the current house male because he liked the way I looked walking away from him with all those legs and the things to which they are attached...which has nothing whatever to do with the topic! Sorry...

Yep. It must be a tough life to have long, thin legs that make your jeans look like they go on forever....you poor, poor THANG, you! �blowing raspberry�

...so much for sumthing in the sympathy vein...*lol*

I was just thinking about how short my legs are today--I had to trot alongside one of my very tall and long-legged professors to keep up with him! I looked like one of those dogs running alongside a carriage in a 19th century print!

haha!!

*lol* Amy and all the rest. I am just wondering when I get my share of "voluptuous" like I know some of the rest of you have...*sigh* Or, did someone make off with my share?!

Hmm, perhaps if you put both of us in a bag and shook us up, we'd both be better off! *giggle* Believe me, you don't want to be too voluptuous--there are too few men who find that attractive anymore!

what about voluptuous but upside down? that's me! *grin*

trying to picture that...

it's easy, call it the pear...

Oh, I see. I'm more what you'd call "Rubenesque"!

Ok...ok...at least with the willowy sort like I am (all lithe and limber) gravity does not take as big a toll on our anatomy as on the more bountifully endowed...!

"Bountifully endowed"--hahaha! I'll have to remember that one!

Did you see they are having an auction of Beethoven, Bronte and BYRON signatures?! My Reuters ticker says so.

No kidding? I think there are actually a lot of them running around...I guess I could buy one and save it until I get a real office! (To hang it on the wall, of course.)

I wonder how he's signed his name on the ones that are up for auction? Sometimes he signed it just "Byron," or "George Byron," or even "Noel Byron." Sometimes he didn't sign his letters at all!

No kidding? I think there are actually a lot of them running around...I guess I could buy one and save it until I get a real office! (To hang it on the wall, of course.)

usually, nobility signed their given names -George Gordon in his case - until they came into the titlem then they just sign Byron (as P charles signs Wales.)

Well, Byron was kind of an odd fellow--I saw a picture of a ring he'd given Augusta, and it said "from your loving brother Noel Byron." His whole name was George Gordon Noel Byron, but I don't know why the ring said that.

Having Irish ancestors I am glad to find this site and enjoy it very much. Being a good Irishman, my grandfather brought his horses when he came to this country and sent for his wife later.

Life doesn't get alot more practical than that! Welcome Lucille!!! Where do you live now?

Lucie!!! Welcome from Drool to the really wierd world of this stuff. However did you get to Alaska, or was that where your grandfather settled? I know how you got to Florida!

Well, considering that he could make money with his horses, and only babies with his wife...

ha-ha!!!!