Would this be considered a pagan religion considering the population of mankind? Shall we delve into sexism? Brings to mind the song, "Saved By Zero."

Let's delve away.

Hi. I'm the guy who started Zero. > Would this be considered a pagan religion considering the population of > mankind? It's a religion based on Atheism. Zero provides answers to questions about death, morality, self-identity, etc. without using the classical God or the supernatural. Because it's not based on faith, its answers can be used by people of any faith, or no faith. > Shall we delve into sexism? You wouldn't believe how many times I've heard that one. The slogan has been changed to "Each Of Us Is A God", or "U R God".

Hmmm... I AM GOD... I like the idea. Maybe not the responsibility. So not only is Man God, each is his own god?

Yes, you are a God. A "global God" emerges from the population of the world, but that's really not the focus of Zero. Zero focuses on the individual. As for the responsibility, you're not responsibile for the whole universe, just for yourself and the things you care about. You and the important things in your life come first. In this sense, Zero's a "bottom-up" religion, while most classical religions are "top-down".

Hello, David glad you could make it in, and hope you'll look around the conferences some. WER

..........Hello, too, stacey and terry, imagine seeing you here! WER

How does Zero assimilate the forces imposed upon Man as God? If you are responsible only for yourself are the forces of nature, other Gods and physical constriants considered irrelevant? Are they considered external or is everything regarded as an incarnation of the internal?

: How does Zero assimilate the forces imposed upon Man as God? If you are : responsible only for yourself are the forces of nature, other Gods and : physical constriants considered irrelevant? Are they considered external or : is everything regarded as an incarnation of the internal? Reality exists (sorry Buddhists), other Gods (people) also exist, as do the laws of physics. All of these constraints limit us in some way. But not as much as you'd think. For example, just because the laws of physics say I can't fly doesn't mean I can't fly. I can take a plane. As Gods we find ways around the things that get in our way. At this point I really have no idea what our real limits are. Will we be able to create life someday? To create universes? I honestly can't answer "no" to questions like this. The potential of each human being is amazing. =-= David de Void Homo Deus

And the potential of two human beings together?...

: And the potential of two human beings together?... It depends. Often groups can do more than indivduals. No indivdual could beat the worst professional football team at football, no matter how good that individual was. And of course there's always love, which doesn't work so well with just one person. But sometimes one person can do things that a group, no matter how large, cannot do any better. Remember the joke about a manager assigning 9 women to make a baby in a month? Sometimes groups are important, sometimes they get in the way. By concentrating on the individual, we cover both cases =-= David de Void Homo Deus

I am the succubus of zero, and I now swerve into position. Oh, wait, there's an abscess on my formula. I must take a moment to consult with Wahabi the Crybaby. Okay, done. I am back down and off the camel. Eugh, what a fluid motion that was. I can talk untrammeled with a tambourine in my hand. And I no longer wanna be the succubus. I suck enough as it is. Frankly, and rankly, and blankly, I do confess to the notion that the individual is an illusion. Groups are too. Don't listen to me on this. I don't. But if we are stripped bare of all ideals, then we have eliminated the negative.....and that allows the positive. The positive is love. But love isn't love. And positive isn't positive. I mean, this stuff really doesn't have much to do with the use of words, y'know. Boy, I am really pooped. This took a lot outa me. Did you know I didn't know I was gonna say ANY of this? Well why didn't you tell me. Say sumthin' next time.

hey Leplep... looks like you blew a gasket there!

I think, I guess, it got too individualized. I really like, though, the idea of starting with nothing. In that nothing, or with it, that's the closest we get to spirit. So what is spirit? And what is zero? And man? And god? And nature? Are these things nothing and not real? Probably just another way of saying it doesn't have anything to do with thoughts and images. What does it mean to say: closest we get to spirit? That spirit is something good? Desirable? The way words run together and act on each other in the mind.....makes me wonder what's the meaning of meaning, too. What does it mean for the mind to be saying something like: beyond the mind? Is the unknown totally mixed in with the known and the real? Is the real very well known? Or is the real mostly just assumed to be real well known? My feeling is that if we start with the simplest, most real thing [what's going on in the present, the here and now], that what we see in that [the present], is where the spirit meets the really real. Yeah, but so what? What if the meaning there in that is actually so close to zero that it is zero?

mathematically it certainly is possible.

PROPHECY... Before Bill Clinton leaves office on January 20, 2001, The Lord Of Hosts will utterly Destroy the United States and both its neighbors, with an all consuming fire that can never be quenched. Sound far fetched? Well it won't. Not if you consider the hundreds of supporting Scriptures found at: http://www.rt66.com/~bandsrpt/FAQ.html

And don't forget, Pete Rose will make it into the Baseball Hall of Fame, thanks to Second Chance Bill.

Do you mean SC Bill has his hands in that pie as well as everything else he can get into? Oh dear... We ARE doomed!!!

Bill isn't about to leave the scene, he'll be making waves for a long time. I have the feeling Hillary will back out of the Senate race and be appointed head of the World Bank (doesn't require confirmation and it would help the Clintons raise some spare change).

They'd better not reach into my pockets. The only hand allowed there is Terry's!