Yup! The best Mele Kalikimaka present in the whole state. I hope it is a sellout because that is the only way I am going to see it.

Ok...who's gonna win this weekend. Hawaii is favored by 2 1/2 points over Rice Penn State favoreed by 28 points over Iowa (at Iowa) Texas by 5 over Oklahoma Texas A&M by 27 over Baylor

...even better than winning the game, if Texas beats Oklahoma they get to take home The Golden Hat (wait for Terry's description, I guess) mounted on a piece of wood - as it was described in Yahoo sports. Tonight's game: No.18 Syracuse 24, Pittsburgh 17

Penn State is a prohibitive favorite. Most bookies won't take a bet on Penn State this weekend, regardless of spread, so it would be foolish to bet against them (or even the spread). Texas-Oklahoma is one of the Southwest's longest running traditional rivalries, so throw out the spread and pick 'em with your heart (we know where Terry's heart is--hooking 'em, Horns)! A&M should have a relatively easy time with Baylor. Hawaii-Rice should be one of the most interesting games on the entire schedule this Saturday. Both are traditional doormats who have been given their wake-up calls by terrific new coaches: Hawaii by former San Diego Chargers head coach June Jones, and Rice by former Air Force head coach Ken Hatfield. Both run exotic offenses: Hawaii, the pass-happy run-and-shoot, which Neil Lomax and Jones both used as their tickets to become NFL quarterbacks out of Portland State; and Rice, the wishbone, a multi-faceted running attack that Air Force under Hatfield employed to become a WAC conference power without recruited athletes (all football players had to be Air Force cadets who got into school via the rigorous academic criteria). I predict Hawaii will win this one and it will be the Rainbows unheralded but staunch defense which will be the difference.

Bravo John....I was afraid you were to busy to get to Spring tonight and those who read this (who else but you and Terry and me???) stuff would have to rely on me and the Hawaii Tribune-Herald sports page and Robert Kekaula from the evening news (who provided the info on the Hawaii spread). Thanks! Geev'um Bows!!! Go Aggies!!! Hook'um Horns!!! (Who has that golden hat now?) Do not embarrass me Nittany Lions!!!

Right Hook em Horns, the Major is going to be looking to bounce back from the worst performance of his career (not helped by the offensive line) and the special teams are in the same boat.

PENN STATE 31 IOWA 7

TEXAS A&M 45 BAYLOR 13

TEXAS 38 OKLAHOMA 28

...lookin' good!!! Now, all we have to do is have Hawaii win for a clean sweep! Game starts in 4 hours and 20 minutes...!

GO BOWS!

Oh John!!! You learned how to blink, too. Bravo!!!

Why doesn't it blink on my monitor? I thought I had failed.

I have no idea...let it sit there a moment to see it it just needs to warm up or something. Btw, what browser are you using MsExp rather than Netscape? No wonder! If that is the case I will send you the url to download netscape and see what you have been missing!

I have netscape. It's just that IE is a toned-down, less B.S. operation.

Okay, I'm in Netscape and it's blinking. Bravo. Thanks, Dr. Marcia.

then it should blink...you do not need anything except the stand alone Netscape Navigator 4.0 - the rest is annoying and takes too long to load. IE (read pain in the okole) is an intrusive program that I had to hand pick to get off my computer. It kept regenerating each time I turned on the computer in the morning! BG and his thick head...(great bank account, though...!)

Excellent!!! (your post slipped in under my last one...) *happy smile*

If Billy G. could reproduce that trick with human amputees, he'd get the Nobel Prize for medicine and be as loved as he is reviled now.

This is true...He lost me when he wanted everyone off Lanai (residents included) for the duration of his honeymoon there. That takes some kind of arrogance which is alien to me.

Well, he couldn't quite do that, but he had anyone who got within a half-mile beaten by his hired goons.

SOB!!! Sweet Old Bill.... Money doesn't care who owns it, huh?!

Great play for Rice stopping the possible touchdown with 19 seconds left. Hannum misses chip shot. At the half: Rice 10 Hawaii 10

I'm checking out Rice's PhD program on the web. Looks interesting. But Houston?

How much do you like heat?

Am not in love with heat or humidity. But we have plenty of the latter here. BTW, Rice 31, Hawaii 13 fourth quarter. We can kiss this one goodbye.

Final Score HAWAII 19 RICE 38 I am a selfish being, John...I don't want you to leave me here in Hilo without anyone to talk to with the intelligence and wit to captivate my imagination...

Don't know where else to put this but Penn State Lady Lions (Ranked 2nd) hosted the Lady Longhorns (ranked 8th) in Volleyball recently and took it to four games to do it both nights of the matches. That runs the Lady Lions winning streak to 66.

Well, okay. The fourth ranked UH-Manoa Rainbow Wahine volleyball team cleaned Rice's clock in three games last night in Houston, while the Owls were over here preying on our stinking goatherds of the gridiron.

I don't want to leave, either, but have to get my doctorate at some point and that's not going to happen in Hilo.

...one could smell the stench over 200 miles away...and it was not volcano fumes this time. It was the JJ's Jocks which stinketh up the entire state! Perhaps the Rainbows need their own Screwed topic?!

...as to that doctorate...I will miss you, especially...but if you return I will be all the more delighted. No, it will not happen in Hilo, and you are far too talented intellectually to do it over the Internet, through the mail, or (heaven forbid) the cover of a matchbook! I shall not be selfish about this, but that does not mean I will not talk about how you broke my heart on screwed 163 *grin*

Well, I am a charter graduate of the Close Cover Before Striking School of Broadcasting and Heavy Equipment Operation! An internet doctorate would not be out of the question, if it had more credibility (it should). All I need are a computer, a fax, a phone, snail mail and a college library. I have all those things here in Hilo. But people still look down their noses at it, even though a PhD is basically a research degree. I've been reading Screwed 163.

(...and poems of loss and male babes, as well, for your reading pleasure...) Ah! A graduate of MBU (MatchBookUniversity)...you are not the first or last to get such a degree, but you are by far the smartest one I have ever met! I agree with you on the Internet degree...it will come, but it might take a while. Deborah then-Trumbo did hers that way and travelled a little, too. I guess it depends on what you want to do with it. Brain Surgery is probably out...! (btw, I posted in basketball here somewhere...about our really great new team!)

The Associated Press Top 25 college football poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through October 10, 1999) TEAM PTS PVS ---- --- --- 1. Florida St (63) (6-0) 1,743 1 2. Penn St (6) (6-0) 1,678 2 3. Nebraska (6-0) 1,595 4 4. Virginia Tech (1) (5-0) 1,497 5 5. Michigan St (6-0) 1,408 11 6. Tennessee (4-1) 1,398 6 7. Florida (5-1) 1,282 8 8. Georgia Tech (4-1) 1,258 7 9. Kansas St (5-0) 1,212 9 10. Michigan (5-1) 1,171 3 11. Alabama (4-1) 991 12 12. Mississippi St (6-0) 927 14 13. Texas A&M (4-1) 926 13 14. Georgia (4-1) 778 10 15. Marshall (5-0) 760 15 16. Syracuse (5-1) 715 18 17. Wisconsin (4-2) 606 20 18. Ohio St (4-2) 588 21 19. Texas (5-2) 454 23 20. Purdue (4-2) 366 17 21. BYU (4-1) 341 24 22. Mississippi (5-1) 218 NR 23. East Carolina (5-1) 205 16 24. Miami Fla (2-3) 161 19 25. So Mississippi (3-2) 124 NR Dropped Out: No. 22 USC, No. 25 Minnesota Others Receiving Votes: Air Force 67, Arizona 59, Minnesota 56, Notre Dame 51, Arkansas 33, Washington 25, Maryland 20, Kentucky 14, No Carolina St 5, Utah 5, Oklahoma 3, Pittsburgh 3, USC 3, Stanford 2, Wake Forest 1, Wyoming 1.

Until Terry makes us a Collegiate Volleyball topic: Rank School Total Points 1999 Record Last Week 1 Pacific (34) 1455 5-0 6 2 Penn State (8) 1364 4-1 1 3 Hawai'i (9) 1359 2-0 4 4 Long Beach State (8) 1332 4-0 5 5 Nebraska 1242 4-2 3 6 Florida 1190 4-2 8 7 Stanford (1) 1162 1-1 2 8 Texas 1059 2-0 13 9 UC Santa Barbara 1005 2-0 11 10 UCLA 1004 2-0 10 11 Pepperdine 842 2-0 12 12 BYU 778 2-1 7 13 Wisconsin 656 3-1 9 14 Ohio State 597 1-0 17 15 Arizona 595 4-1 15 16 Arkansas 467 5-0 20 17 Texas A&M 465 3-1 16 18 Clemson 462 4-0 NR 19 Colorado State 440 4-0 24 20 USC 396 1-1 21 21 Univ of San Diego 369 2-1 18 22 Illinois 229 0-2 14 23 Colorado 192 2-1 19 24 Kansas State 148 3-1 23 25 Michigan 133 3-0 NR Others receiving 30 or more points: North Carolina (81), Michigan State (56), Loyola Marymount (55); Northern Iowa (41), Notre Dame (37), Indiana (35), Minnesota (30).

Hmmm...don't seem to see the Vulcans mentioned anywhere...*smirk*

Associated Press Top 25 College Football Poll The Associated Press Top 25 college football poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through October 10, 1999) TEAM PTS PVS ---- --- --- 1. Florida St (63) (6-0) 1,743 1 2. Penn St (6) (6-0) 1,678 2 3. Nebraska (6-0) 1,595 4 4. Virginia Tech (1) (5-0) 1,497 5 5. Michigan St (6-0) 1,408 11 6. Tennessee (4-1) 1,398 6 7. Florida (5-1) 1,282 8 8. Georgia Tech (4-1) 1,258 7 9. Kansas St (5-0) 1,212 9 10. Michigan (5-1) 1,171 3 11. Alabama (4-1) 991 12 12. Mississippi St (6-0) 927 14 13. Texas A&M (4-1) 926 13 14. Georgia (4-1) 778 10 15. Marshall (5-0) 760 15 16. Syracuse (5-1) 715 18 17. Wisconsin (4-2) 606 20 18. Ohio St (4-2) 588 21 19. Texas (5-2) 454 23 20. Purdue (4-2) 366 17 21. BYU (4-1) 341 24 22. Mississippi (5-1) 218 NR 23. East Carolina (5-1) 205 16 24. Miami Fla (2-3) 161 19 25. So Mississippi (3-2) 124 NR Dropped Out: No. 22 USC, No. 25 Minnesota Others Receiving Votes: Air Force 67, Arizona 59, Minnesota 56, Notre Dame 51, Arkansas 33, Washington 25, Maryland 20, Kentucky 14, No Carolina St 5, Utah 5, Oklahoma 3, Pittsburgh 3, USC 3, Stanford 2, Wake Forest 1, Wyoming 1.

October 16 (Week 8) Penn State at Ohio State Kansas at Texas A&M Texas idle

Wishful thinking category: From The Sporting News. (15) Ohio State at (1) Penn State Saturday, October 16, Noon ET By Kyle Veltrop/The Sporting News The game: Ohio State (4-2, 1-1 Big Ten) at Penn State (6-0, 2-0). Site: Beaver Stadium, University Park, Pa. Date/time: Saturday, Noon ET. TV: ABC. Why you should watch: Two of the nation's perennial big boys meet, and though Ohio State isn't having a typical season by its standards, this still is a dangerous team that could end -- or severely harm -- Penn State's national title hopes. The Buckeyes are coming off a three-point win over Purdue after Boilermakers kicker Travis Dorsch had a potential game-tying field goal blocked with less than a minute to play. Penn State was a bit sluggish against overmatched Iowa, but the Nittany Lions eventually pulled away. Ohio State beat Penn State 28-9 in Columbus a year ago. When the Buckeyes have the ball: Sophomore quarterback Steve Bellisari still is growing on the job; he completed just 10-of-26 and was intercepted twice against Purdue. He also fumbled and was shaky on some of his reads, causing Cooper to have backup Austin Moherman warm up. But Bellisari, though unpredictable, continues to show promise. Bellisari's 10 completions averaged 17 yards, and his 68-yard run on the game's final drive iced the win. He also has shown an ability to throw the deep ball. But he clearly is not a finished product. Ohio State faithful will just have to ride out his rocky moments. Helping to ease Bellisari's growing pains are an emerging duo at receiver. Ken-Yon Rambo (6-1) and Reggie Germany (6-2) have nice size, can get behind secondaries and are capable of acrobatic catches. They combined for 129 yards receiving against Purdue and have combined for 51 catches in '99. They will be matched against the Penn State corner duo of David Macklin (5-9) and Anthony King (5-8). Look for Ohio State to attack downfield with Rambo and Germany. The big play is the one thing that's been rather consistent in this offense, and the Nittany Lions rank only 58th in the nation in pass defense. The Buckeyes never were able to establish a consistent ground game against Purdue. Michael Wiley carried only eight times but for 67 yards. Wiley also contributed by throwing a 7-yard TD pass and by running in a two-point conversion for the game's final points. But Ohio State needs to stick to its ground game, easing the pressure on still-raw Bellisari. If Cooper doesn't want to saddle Wiley with too many carries, Derek Combs and Jonathan Wells can carry a heavier load. Those two combined for 11 carries against Purdue. There is talent in the Buckeyes backfield. Penn State is allowing 118 yards per game on the ground. The linebacker trio of Mac Morrison, LaVar Arrington and Brandon Short can make it tough on any ground game. Short is coming off a monster game against Iowa; he recorded 10 tackles with a sack and tipped a punt. Key matchup: Penn State defensive end Courtney Brown and outside linebacker LaVar Arrington vs. Ohio State quarterback Steve Bellisari. Brown -- he of the school-record 54 career tackles-for-loss -- is a playmaker off the end. Arrington makes life miserable for quarterbacks. Bellisari, who was rattled against the Boilermakers, must know Brown and Arrington will try and get inside his head. Bellisari likes to roll out of the pocket, so it will be up to Brown and Arrington to contain him. When the Nittany Lions have the ball: The Nittany Lions will have to improve their offensive showing dramatically from a year ago, when Ohio State limited them to 179 yards total offense. The Lions used big plays to defeat Arizona and Miami (Fla.) this season. At other times, this offense is methodical and conservative. Now that the schedule stiffens, look for Penn State coaches to be more creative. Against Iowa, Penn State rolled up 341 yards rushing. Sophomore Eric McCoo gaining 130 yards on 13 carries, the first Lion to top the century mark in '99. That could spell trouble for an Ohio State run defense that ranks 83rd out of 114 teams. Wisconsin's Ron Dayne shredded this defense two weeks ago, and pass-oriented Purdue ran 30 times for 163 yards. With its stable of running backs, look for Penn State to run often. The quarterback tandem of Kevin Thompson and Rashard Casey has clicked for the most part, but they both struggled against the Hawkeyes. Combined, Thompson and Casey completed 16-of-33 passes for 159 yards and two interceptions. Casey is more mobile and gives the offense a different dimension. In fact, he is the Lions' second-leading rusher (after McCoo). Casey also has improved his passing, but Thompson probably will get more snaps. Key matchup: Penn State wide receiver Chafie Fields vs. Ohio State's secondary. A week after facing Purdue's fine receiving corps, the Buckeyes have to face one of the nation's more dangerous players. Fields leads the Lions with 20 catches and averages 20 yards per catch. He also is dangerous on reverses. Fields has come up the biggest in Penn State's two major showdowns -- Arizona and Miami (Fla.). Against Arizona in the ballyhooed season opener, Fields ran for 110 yards and a touchdown and had 76 yards receiving and another score. Against Miami, Fields had 177 yards receiving and two touchdowns, including a 79-yard game-winning scoring grab with less than two minutes to play. It seems as if Fields saves his best for the biggest games, and Ohio State will have to keep the big-play/big-game man in check. Look for a good deal of that responsibility to fall on cornerback Ahmed Plummer. Outlook: Bellisari's performance is critical. He can't come unglued like he did several times against Purdue or this opportunistic Penn State defense will end this game quickly. The Lions bring a lot of pressure, and Bellisari will have to take care of the ball while mixing in the big gains that define him. Penn State hasn't coasted like some think it should have in all of its games, but the Nittany Lions -- along with Florida State -- are playing on a different level. It's not always perfect, but it's better than nearly everyone else. That, and a home-field advantage, will be enough to derail a Buckeyes team still defining itself.

PENN STATE 23 OHIO 10

TEXAS A&M 34 KANSAS 17

The Associated Press Top 25 college football poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through October 17, 1999) TEAM PTS PVS ---- --- --- 1. Florida St (62) (7-0) 1,742 1 2. Penn St (6) (7-0) 1,678 2 3. Nebraska (6-0) 1,580 3 4. Virginia Tech (2) (6-0) 1,561 4 5. Tennessee (4-1) 1,419 6 6. Florida (6-1) 1,368 7 7. Kansas St (6-0) 1,297 9 8. Georgia Tech (5-1) 1,247 8 9. Michigan (5-1) 1,157 10 10. Alabama (5-1) 1,089 11 11. Michigan St (6-1) 987 5 12. Mississippi St (6-0) 976 12 13. Texas A&M (5-1) 934 13 14. Georgia (5-1) 813 14 15. Marshall (6-0) 758 15 16. Purdue (5-2) 754 20 17. Wisconsin (5-2) 717 17 18. Texas (5-2) 532 19 19. BYU (5-1) 446 21 20. East Carolina (5-1) 301 23 21. So Mississippi (4-2) 282 25 22. Ohio St (4-3) 220 18 23. Miami Fla (2-3) 186 24 24. Minnesota (5-1) 162 NR 25. Mississippi (5-2) 126 22 Dropped Out: No. 16 Syracuse Others Receiving Votes: Notre Dame 108, Syracuse 95, Arizona 61, Kentucky 52, Arkansas 38, Utah 32, Stanford 11, Air Force 9, Virginia 6, Wyoming 3, Boston College 2, Iowa St 1.

This Saturday's schedule: PENN STATE at PURDUE NEBRASKA at TEXAS TEXAS A&M at OKLAHOMA HAWAII at TULSA Don't have any idea who is favored in which games, but with Texas playing at home it still might be their toughest game so far. The rest of us play away games...

Current lines from Bally's Vegas: Penn State by 3.5 over Purdue Nebraska by 9 over Texas Texas A&M by 5 over Oklahoma Hawaii by 3 over Tulsa (which, spelled backwards is "a slut")

Thanks, John - I have no idea where to look for stuff like that...so we went odds-less last week. If their odds prove true it should be good for all but Texas and Terry, not surprisingly...!

Is someone you know an Aggie?

...no...but it is a state land grant college like Penn State in my Home state away from Home state...(where spring lives)

...and...yes.

Oh. Gee Hawaii is a land grant state college as well (although the land granted it is understandably limited).

...Yes, it is, and I erred in not including Hawaii in that statement (but explained in Email.) I was thinking of the land grand colleges inaugurated in 1855 by Abraham Lincoln. U of Hawaii is not that old, is it???

No. The University of Hawaii is a toddler as far as universities go, established in 1907, and our own UH-Hilo (my alma mater) was established in 1947 (originally University of Hawaii, Hilo Branch, and then Hilo College before becoming the University of Hawaii at Hilo). The first building constructed on the Manoa (Honolulu) campus, Hawaii Hall (1907) is still there despite several proposals from the powers that be to raze it. Each time students--who amazingly are the ones who wish to protect history the e--have stepped in and saved the grand old lady.

Thanks for the update on the UH history. I did know the UHH one (including the Hilo Campus designation which I hated) I am having to listed to Penn State play Purdue on Broadcast.com because our ABC affiliate is showing the Cal game...!

TEXAS 24 NEBRASKA 20

PENN STATE 31 PURDUE 25

HAWAII 35 TULSA 21

TEXAS A&M 6 OKLAHOMA 51

Hawaii is now 5-2 on the season. Former Rainbow coach Fred von Appen (1996-98) presided over 5 wins during his 3-year tenure. Coach June Jones has now won 5 games in his first season, basically using von Appen recruited personnel, plus a can-do attitude. Here's to keeping up with the Joneses!

That is so funny!!! GREEN writing to celebrate UH's victory. Amen to keeping up with the Jonses. That is not going to be as easy as once the saying implied!

Ah...Next week.... TCU is at Hawaii Penn State is at Illinois(who knocked off Michigan State today) Oklahoma State is at Texas A&M Texas is at Iowa State The two Texas teams I have been following should win next week. Illinois and Penn State...don't know. Also do not know anything about TCU, but I say we take them to the beach and sit them out in the hot sun all day before they play...! It used to work in the middle of winter with visiting basketball teams!

Actually it was Michigan my beloved Illini upset today. I can't believe it! JOHN'S SCORE OF THE DAY: ILLINOIS 35 (#9) MICHIGAN 29 Although I still love you, I can't root for the Nittany Lions next week, Marcia. If it's any comfort, I sincerely doubt it will matter. There's no chance that your beloved Lions will take my beloved Illini lightly, now.

Thanks, John...I understand. There is no chance (as you could see by my "predictions" for next Saturday) that any Nittany Lion will take the Fighting Illini for granted. Both Michigan AND Michigan State lost today. What is happening...and Nebraska, too!!! (My late brother-in-law received his Master's from Illinios...his pennant hung over my bed for many years...!) And, I still love you, too *smile*

They turned me down for admission after I got out of the Navy, as did Michigan, UCLA, and USC. The only two four-year schools who accepted me were UH-Manoa and San Diego State. But I still grew up loving the Illini.

...and what a scholar you proved to be. Their loss was Hilo's gain - for that I am eternally grateful, selfish wretch that I am...

There's no way they could have known then. If I turned out to be a scholar, I didn't see it coming, either.

Truly??? (They did not offer placement tests and diploma equivalency tests in those days?!) I do not know how you could not have known you were more intelligent than the general Navy inlistee...unless you are like me and think everyone is at least as smart as I am...! I gather public school did nothing for you, in the "keeping you coming back for more" category!

Bally's Vegas early lines for Sat. Oct. 30: Penn State by 18.5 over Illinois Texas Christian by 6.5 over Hawaii Texas by 11.5 over Iowa State Texas A&M by 36 over Oklahoma State

The Naval test battery I took in boot camp told me what I now know. That I have a gift for language, that I am slightly better than average at math, and that I have no clue where mechanics are involved.

Bummer for HAWAII... (I don't believe that PSU over IU by anything like that big of a margain) Thanks for posting them, John. (You do not need to have a clue as to mechanics. You are a thinker and will pay those who cannot to do your mechanical stuff). The Navy stood you in good stead if what you say is the case!

Look at the Aggie line. They should be plenty PO'd this week, though. Many sports book operations--legit or otherwise--would not take a bet on that large a line.

I have no idea how lousy OK State is this year, but that is a HUGE point spread!

Anyone know where the Horns ended up in the polls this week?

#12 both AP and ESPN/USA Today

Sorry - I though I had posted this The Associated Press Top 25 college football poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through October 24, 1999) TEAM PTS PVS ---- --- --- 1. Florida St (55) (8-0) 1,733 1 2.Penn St (10) (8-0) 1,684 2 3. Virginia Tech (5) (6-0) 1,603 4 4. Tennessee (5-1) 1,515 5 5. Florida (6-1) 1,456 6 6. Kansas St (7-0) 1,412 7 7. Georgia Tech (5-1) 1,329 8 8. (tie) Mississippi St (7-0) 1,180 12 8. (tie) Nebraska (6-1) 1,180 3 10. Georgia (6-1) 1,072 14 11. Wisconsin (6-2) 1,010 17 12.Texas (6-2) 992 18 13. Marshall (7-0) 921 15 14. Alabama (5-2) 805 10 15. Michigan (5-2) 649 9 16. BYU (6-1) 634 19 17. East Carolina (6-1) 545 20 18. Purdue (5-3) 511 16 19. Michigan St (6-2) 446 11 20. So Mississippi (5-2) 434 21 21. Ohio St (5-3) 388 22 22. Texas A&M (5-2) 264 13 23. Miami Fla (3-3) 244 23 24. Oklahoma (4-2) 174 NR 25. Mississippi (5-2) 171 25 Dropped Out: No. 24 Minnesota Others Receiving Votes: Notre Dame 119, Stanford 67, Utah 59, Syracuse 57, Minnesota 47, Arkansas 25, Illinois 10, Clemson 3, Louisiana Tech 3, Maryland 3, Air Force 2, Oregon 2, Washington 1.

Wow, Texas is in striking distance of the top 10. And Nebraska is still ranked above Texas even though they lost to Texas (sure, might as well rub it in).

The TCU Horned Frogs arrived in Honolulu today featuring the nation's leading rusher, Ladainan Tomlinson, who sports both a diamond earring and a gold tooth. The Frogs (3-4) are 4-and-a-half point favorites with the illegal bookies on Honolulu's Hotel Street to beat the homestanding Rainbow Warriors (5-2). The Owls run a triple-option offense that is related to the wishbone that Rice used to smash the Bows a couple of weeks ago.

I need an editor. What I meant to type is that the Horned Frogs run a triple-option running offense similar to the wishbone that the Rice Owls used to fly over the Bows a couple of weeks ago. Sheesh!!!!!

I edit, but only if it is sent to me before you hit the submit button! Terry, may I join you in "rubbing it in" to Nebraska? Is there a Penn Stater who likes that place?! They stole our national championship!!!

Refresh my memory. Was that the infamous "fifth down"?

No...it was more recent than that. The first time was when we were tied for first place and unbeaten during Nixon's regime. Someone told him Nebraska was unbeaten and forgot to mention us - Nixon proclaimed Nebraska national champs on the spot and no one dared to tell him otherwise. Then a few years ago they just awarded it to Nebraska on the "strength" of their schedule, supposedly. Who makes up those matches 10 years in advance?!

I'm sorry, I wasn't the matchmaker for that bout!

It must be late in the day for me - I had forgotten that 5th down! How could I?!

(John)I'm sorry, I wasn't the matchmaker for that bout! Yeah...me too!!!

The 5th down as a the game where Colorado won the title, now that I am thinking clearly. It was their coach, the Bible beating yet philandering Bill McCartney who tried to convince a disbelieving public that he was an innocent victim and had the high moral ground. How much did he pay the refs to have collective amnesia???

Don't think you want to know...(Hell fire and Damnation often works, too)

Auwe, John...our much anticipated Penn State - Illinois game is on ABC subject to regional coverage. That means we will not get to see it and will have to listen to broadcast.com for it - me to the Penn State coverage with George Paterno (who sounds just exactly like his brother Joe) and you to whomever is covering it for the Fighting Illini...may the best team win!!!

I wouldn't get to see it anyhow. I'll be working. I do feel for you, however.

George Paterno calling Penn State football. Sounds like an objective broadcast to me...

Oh, he is *lol* And I shall feel for you... I can listen to you and George at the same time...!

Wow. That is multitasking multitalented. I'm impressed!

I'm definitely pulling for the Fighting Illini in that one, being and Illinois grad and all.

Being a Penn State grad is a lonely business out here...*sigh* TEXAS 44 IOWA STATE 41

At the half: PENN STATE 7 ILLINOIS 7

at the end of the 3rd PENN STATE 24 Illinois 7

TEXAS A&M 21 OKLAHOMA STATE 3

Final: PENN STATE 27 ILLINOIS 7

sorry, John and Terry...

I just popped into the living room to see what other games were on and the CBS guys were berating Penn State for not dominating the game. There is never enough that PS can do to satisfy those guys. If we win big they accuse us of rolling up the score. If we win modestly they attack us for not being worthy of a national championship. I can feel it already. Somehow, someone will, no matter the outcome of the remaining games, will declare someone OTHER than PS as national champions ...Just Because...! am sick and tired of being the cinderella - I want to go to the ball, too!

Sorry to sound unsympathetic, but do you want some cheese to go with that whine? Try being a lifelong Illini football or Chicago Cubs fan.

Just in case you missed my intended tone: ;) (not trying to be vicious, just ironic)