The Standings Standings 40,000 George 11,400 Joe ("austin" under review) 7,900 Marci 3,500 Terry 750 Frans 1500 Texas Wait till next year George.

yes the dark horse may be running but DARK HORSE is also a bottle of rum will it still run when empty?? Joe

I actually went to the Longhorns game in peson today, thanks to a guy on the street who had an extra ticket and had to go to his kid's soccer match. The Horns beat the spread today by one point! I had a great view of the game overlooking the whole Austin panorama. They took their time nailing down the spread though! 30,000 George 11,400 Joe 7,900 Marci 5,000 Terry 750 Frans (anyone heard from him?)

Saturday's college results: Winner Loser spread score arkansas SOUTH CAROLINA - 1.5 23- 0 arkansas state LA LAFAYETTE + 4.5 10-13 ARMY air force +21.0 30-49 AUBURN la monroe -36.0 52-14 BOISE STATE rice -27.5 49- 7 california ARIZONA STATE + 5.5 55-38 central florida BUFFALO -18.5 45-21 clemson NORTH CAROLINA - 9.5 42-12 colorado MISSOURI - 4.5 42-35 CONNECTICUT kent state - 8.5 63-21 e michigan W MICHIGAN +23.5 31-33 east carolina HOUSTON + 1.5 54-48 florida state GEORGIA TECH - 7.0 21-13 GEORGIA mississippi -14.0 31-17 PUSH idaho NORTH TEXAS +14.0 0-10 illinois WISCONSIN + 6.0 37-20 IOWA northwestern -27.5 62-10 KANSAS STATE iowa state -10.5 58- 7 KENTUCKY louisiana state + 4.0 30-33 memphis SOUTH FLORIDA +12.5 28-31 miami fla TENNESSEE - 9.0 26- 3 michigan MINNESOTA - 5.5 41-24 michigan state INDIANA + 2.5 56-21 mississippi st ALABAMA +21.5 14-28 NAVY notre dame +30.0 23-30 NEBRASKA kansas -34.0 45- 7 NEW MEXICO san diego state - 2.5 15- 8 no carolina st MARYLAND + 4.5 21-24 NO ILLINOIS bowling green + 4.0 26-17 OHIO akron - 4.0 27-10 PENN STATE virginia -13.5 35-14 PURDUE ohio state + 6.5 6-10 SAN JOSE STATE louisiana tech + 3.0 42-30 SYRACUSE virginia tech +14.5 50-42 temple PITTSBURGH +20.0 22-29 *TEXAS baylor -40.0 41- 0 *** TEXAS A&M oklahoma +10.0 30-26 !!! texas el paso NEVADA +25.5 17-23 TEXAS TECH oklahoma state - 8.5 49-24 TOLEDO c michigan -14.0 44-17 tulane TEXAS CHRISTIAN +12.0 10-17 tulsa FRESNO STATE +27.0 12-31 UAB so mississippi + 7.0 13-20 PUSH ucla ARIZONA -10.5 37- 7 usc STANFORD -14.5 49-17 UTAH unlv - 8.5 28-17 UTAH STATE new mexico st + 2.0 32-30 VANDERBILT florida +20.5 17-21 WASHINGTON oregon state + 2.5 41-29 WASHINGTON STATE oregon - 6.0 32-21 WEST VIRGINIA boston college - 3.0 24-14 wyoming BRIGHAM YOUNG +10.0 31-35 What a great game Texas played! And I was there thanks to a soccer dad. And then I come home and watch A&M dust off Oklahoma. That was the most exciting football Saturday of all time! Texas is definitely in the hunt for the national title, but they're not masters of their own destiny. They'll need some help from Miami and Ohio State and maybe even another Oklahoma loss to put them into the Big 12 Title game. Unbelieveable.

NFL results: Winner Loser spread score BEARS patriots + 3.5 30-33 chargers RAMS + 6.5 24-28 chiefs NINERS + 6.0 13-17 colts EAGLES + 9.0 35-13 falcons STEELERS + 5.0 34-34 giants VIKINGS - 1.5 27-20 JAGUARS redskins - 2.0 26- 7 JETS dolphins - 2.5 13-10 PACKERS lions -10.0 40-14 RAVENS bengals - 5.5 38-27 saints PANTHERS - 4.5 34-24 seahawks CARDINALS + 3.5 27- 6 texans TITANS +10.5 10-17

30,000 George 7,900 Marci 6,400 Joe 5,000 Terry 750 Frans Looks like the Skins lost by a pretty big margin.

This week's college lines: Tuesday, November 12 - College MARSHALL 1.0 miami ohio Thursday, November 14 - College louisville pick SO MISSISSIPPI Saturday, November 16 - College air force 7.0 UNLV AKRON 13.5 buffalo alabama 2.0 LOUISIANA STATE ARKANSAS 32.0 la lafayette BOISE STATE 26.5 louisiana tech BOSTON COLLEGE 9.0 syracuse BRIGHAM YOUNG 5.5 new mexico CALIFORNIA 16.0 arizona CENTRAL FLORIDA 21.0 kent state C MICHIGAN 3.0 ball state CINCINNATI 15.5 houston COLORADO 8.0 iowa state colorado state 12.5 SAN DIEGO STATE connecticut 3.0 NAVY FLORIDA 15.0 south carolina FLORIDA STATE 31.5 north carolina FRESNO STATE 7.5 nevada georgia 2.5 AUBURN GEORGIA TECH 15.5 duke hawaii 10.5 RICE IDAHO 4.5 arkansas state iowa 10.5 MINNESOTA KANSAS STATE 11.0 nebraska KENTUCKY 16.5 vanderbilt maryland 4.5 CLEMSON MICHIGAN 10.5 wisconsin MID TENNESSEE 15.0 la monroe no carolina st 6.0 VIRGINIA NORTH TEXAS 7.0 new mexico state no illinois 23.5 E MICHIGAN ohio state 8.5 ILLINOIS oklahoma 36.0 BAYLOR oklahoma state 22.0 KANSAS OREGON 9.0 washington oregon state 14.5 STANFORD penn state 20.0 INDIANA purdue 3.5 MICHIGAN STATE san jose state 9.0 TULSA SOUTH FLORIDA 3.5 bowling green so methodist 6.5 TEXAS EL PASO temple 9.5 RUTGERS tennessee 7.0 MISSISSIPPI ST *texas 5.5 TEXAS TECH *** TEXAS A&M 8.5 missouri toledo 6.5 W MICHIGAN TROY STATE 8.5 utah state TULANE 19.0 army UAB 1.5 east carolina USC 13.0 arizona state utah 7.0 WYOMING This week's NFL lines: Sunday, November 17 - NFL broncos 4.5 SEAHAWKS browns 3.5 BENGALS BUCCANEERS 8.5 panthers CHIEFS 3.5 bills COLTS 6.5 cowboys DOLPHINS 4.5 ravens EAGLES 11.0 cardinals FALCONS 3.0 saints GIANTS 3.5 redskins jaguars 6.0 TEXANS jets 3.0 LIONS niners 2.5 CHARGERS packers 6.5 VIKINGS RAIDERS 4.0 patriots steelers 3.0 TITANS Monday, November 18 - NFL RAMS NL bears There it is folks, Texas is favored by 5.5 points over Texas Tech.

college results: Winner Loser spread score louisville SO MISSISSIPPI - 0.0 20-17 MARSHALL miami ohio

oops MARSHALL miami ohio - 1.0 36-34

Texas 5000 Joe

10,000 on The University of Texas at Austin to bust the spread.hook 'em, gaf

OK, here they are! This week's college lines: Wednesday, November 20 - College VIRGINIA TECH 8.5 west virginia Thursday, November 21 - College MIAMI FLA 21.0 pittsburgh Saturday, November 23 - College AIR FORCE 16.0 san diego state akron 6.0 KENT STATE ALABAMA 10.0 auburn arkansas 11.5 MISSISSIPPI ST BALL STATE 16.5 buffalo boise state 19.0 NEVADA boston college 9.5 TEMPLE BOWLING GREEN 33.0 e michigan CALIFORNIA 11.5 stanford CLEMSON 4.5 south carolina COLORADO STATE 16.0 new mexico DUKE 3.5 north carolina florida state 5.5 NO CAROLINA ST fresno state 6.0 SAN JOSE STATE HAWAII 5.5 cincinnati illinois 11.5 NORTHWESTERN IOWA STATE 19.5 connecticut kansas state 13.0 MISSOURI la lafayette 4.0 LA MONROE LOUISIANA STATE 10.5 mississippi LOUISIANA TECH 23.5 texas el paso LOUISVILLE 18.0 uab maryland 8.5 VIRGINIA MEMPHIS 14.0 army MIAMI OHIO 4.5 central florida new mexico st 5.0 IDAHO north texas 2.0 MID TENNESSEE NO ILLINOIS 2.5 toledo NOTRE DAME 28.5 rutgers OHIO STATE 4.0 michigan OKLAHOMA 13.0 texas tech OKLAHOMA STATE 29.0 baylor OREGON STATE 4.5 oregon PENN STATE 21.0 michigan state PURDUE 21.5 indiana south florida 11.0 HOUSTON SO METHODIST 9.5 tulsa so mississippi 6.5 TULANE tennessee 19.0 VANDERBILT texas christian 8.0 EAST CAROLINA usc 4.0 UCLA UTAH 8.5 brigham young WAKE FOREST 27.5 navy WASHINGTON STATE 8.5 washington w michigan 2.5 C MICHIGAN WISCONSIN 7.0 minnesota OHIO NL marshall This week's NFL lines: Sunday, November 24 - NFL BEARS 5.0 lions BRONCOS 6.5 colts BUCCANEERS 3.0 packers chiefs 3.0 SEAHAWKS DOLPHINS 3.0 chargers falcons 3.5 PANTHERS giants 5.5 TEXANS jaguars 2.5 COWBOYS JETS 3.0 bills PATRIOTS 8.0 vikings raiders 8.0 CARDINALS STEELERS 10.5 bengals titans 2.0 RAVENS REDSKINS NL rams SAINTS NL browns Monday, November 25 - NFL NINERS 7.0 eagles Texas has the week off. FSU is only a 5.5 favorite, hard to believe. Texas needs to the week off, their defense is very banged up and they need to re-energize after the crushing loss.

WELL HERES ALL OR NOTHING 1400 REDSKINS Joe

The two teams that beat Texas are playing each other, Oklahoma and Texas Tech. Oklahomaha is a 13 point favorite. Oklahoma is definitely watching last weeks game tape very intently.

20,000 George 7,900 Marci 5,000 Terry 1,400 Joe 750 Frans

Late NFL lines: Sunday, November 24 - NFL rams 4.5 REDSKINS SAINTS 6.0 browns Scores: Winner Loser spread score pittsburgh MIAMI FLA +21.0 21-28 west virginia VIRGINIA TECH + 8.5 21-18

okaaayy you all !!! 500 on REDSKINS Back on stage !

500 Rams

Nice to see you to see you nice Franz Joe

Saturday's college results: Winner Loser spread score akron KENT STATE - 6.0 48-10 auburn ALABAMA +10.0 17- 7 BALL STATE buffalo -16.5 41-21 boise state NEVADA -19.0 44- 7 boston college TEMPLE - 9.5 36-14 BOWLING GREEN e michigan -33.0 63-21 brigham young UTAH + 8.5 6-13 CALIFORNIA stanford -11.5 30- 7 central florida MIAMI OHIO + 4.5 48-23 cincinnati HAWAII + 5.5 19-20 CLEMSON south carolina - 4.5 27-20 connecticut IOWA STATE +19.5 37-20 EAST CAROLINA texas christian + 8.0 31-28 IDAHO new mexico st + 5.0 31-35 kansas state MISSOURI -13.0 38- 0 LA MONROE la lafayette + 4.0 34-10 LOUISVILLE uab -18.0 41-21 MEMPHIS army -14.0 38-10 mississippi LOUISIANA STATE +10.5 13-14 MISSISSIPPI ST arkansas +11.5 19-26 navy WAKE FOREST +27.5 27-30 new mexico COLORADO STATE +16.0 14-22 NO CAROLINA ST florida state + 5.5 17- 7 north carolina DUKE + 3.5 23-21 north texas MID TENNESSEE - 2.0 30-20 NORTHWESTERN illinois +11.5 24-31 NOTRE DAME rutgers -28.5 42- 0 OHIO STATE michigan - 4.0 14- 9 OKLAHOMA texas tech -13.0 60-15 OKLAHOMA STATE baylor -29.0 63-28 OREGON STATE oregon - 4.5 45-24 PENN STATE michigan state -21.0 61- 7 PURDUE indiana -21.5 34-10 san diego state AIR FORCE +16.0 38-34 SAN JOSE STATE fresno state + 6.0 16-19 south florida HOUSTON -11.0 32-14 tennessee VANDERBILT -19.0 24- 0 texas el paso LOUISIANA TECH +23.5 24-38 toledo NO ILLINOIS + 2.5 33-30 TULANE so mississippi + 6.5 31-10 tulsa SO METHODIST + 9.5 21-24 usc UCLA - 4.0 52-21 VIRGINIA maryland + 8.5 48-13 w michigan C MICHIGAN - 2.5 35-10 washington WASHINGTON STATE + 8.5 29-26 WISCONSIN minnesota - 7.0 49-31 Home team is in CAPS Ohio State beat Michigan, barely, and is headed for a national championship showdown with Miami in the Fiesta Bowl. Friday is the Texas vs. Texas A&M showdown, new lines out Tuesday.

NFL results: Winner Loser spread score bengals STEELERS +10.5 21-29 browns SAINTS + 6.0 24-15 BUCCANEERS packers - 3.0 21- 7 colts BRONCOS + 6.5 23-20 COWBOYS jaguars + 2.5 21-19 DOLPHINS chargers - 3.0 30- 3 falcons PANTHERS - 3.5 41- 0 JETS bills - 3.0 31-13 lions BEARS + 5.0 17-20 raiders CARDINALS - 8.0 41-20 RAVENS titans + 2.0 13-12 REDSKINS rams + 4.5 20-17 SEAHAWKS chiefs + 3.0 39-32 TEXANS giants + 5.5 16-14 vikings PATRIOTS + 8.0 17-24

Wow, I won my Redskins bet going against the grain. I was sure they weren't going to cover after watching the early parts of the game. Coming up, the big A&M Texas matchup. It's Friday.

Hi Terry Does that mean I lost? I put all on the Redskins rams 4.5 REDSKINS was the spread If so I look forward to next year when I will take you all to the Cleaners lol Joe

This week's college lines: Thursday, November 28 - College MISSISSIPPI 9.5 mississippi st Friday, November 29 - College arizona state 6.5 ARIZONA ARKANSAS 5.0 louisiana state colorado 1.5 NEBRASKA TEXAS 13.5 texas a&m Saturday, November 30 - College alabama 13.0 HAWAII BOSTON COLLEGE 28.5 rutgers CENTRAL FLORIDA 16.5 ohio CINCINNATI 17.0 uab COLORADO STATE 17.5 unlv FLORIDA STATE 5.5 florida GEORGIA 10.0 georgia tech louisville 16.0 HOUSTON MARSHALL 14.5 ball state miami fla 20.5 SYRACUSE MARYLAND 13.5 wake forest MID TENNESSEE 5.5 utah state NEW MEXICO 8.0 wyoming oklahoma 14.0 OKLAHOMA STATE PITTSBURGH 3.5 west virginia SO MISSISSIPPI 10.0 east carolina TENNESSEE 7.5 kentucky TEXAS CHRISTIAN 14.0 memphis TOLEDO 3.5 bowling green USC 10.0 notre dame VIRGINIA TECH 6.5 virginia This week's NFL lines: Thursday, November 28 - NFL patriots 5.5 LIONS redskins 1.0 COWBOYS Sunday, December 1 - NFL broncos 3.0 CHARGERS BROWNS 7.5 panthers CHIEFS 9.5 cardinals COLTS 11.0 texans dolphins 2.5 BILLS falcons 3.5 VIKINGS GIANTS 3.0 titans NINERS 9.0 seahawks PACKERS 9.5 bears ravens 3.0 BENGALS steelers 3.0 JAGUARS EAGLES NL rams SAINTS NL buccaneers Monday, December 2 - NFL RAIDERS 6.5 jets

OK, yous guys, here's where we separate the men from the boys. I put my $20,0000, all of it on the University of Texas @ Austin to bust the spread. If I win, that's good. If I lose, it's been good to know you. Hook 'em, gaf

20,000 George 7,900 Marci 5,500 Terry 250 Frans 0 Joe

2500 Aggies

40,000 George 7,900 Marci 3,000 Terry 250 Frans 0 Joe I thought the Aggies would stay closer, but the QB that beat Oklahoma sat on the sidelines. Good going George. Condolences Joe and good luck next year.

Turkey Day results: College: Winner Loser spread scor MISSISSIPPI mississippi st - 9.5 24-12 NFL: Winner Loser spread score COWBOYS redskins + 1.0 27-20 patriots LIONS - 5.5 20-12 Today's college results: Winner Loser spread score arizona state ARIZONA - 6.5 34-20 colorado NEBRASKA - 1.5 28-13 louisiana state ARKANSAS + 5.0 20-21 TEXAS texas a&m -13.5 50-20

Today's college results: Winner Loser spread score BOSTON COLLEGE rutgers -28.5 44-14 FLORIDA STATE florida - 5.5 31-14 GEORGIA georgia tech -10.0 51- 7 HAWAII alabama +13.0 16-21 HOUSTON louisville +16.0 27-10 MARSHALL ball state -14.5 38-14 MARYLAND wake forest -13.5 32-14 memphis TEXAS CHRISTIAN +14.0 20-27 miami fla SYRACUSE -20.5 49- 7 MID TENNESSEE utah state - 5.5 45-28 NEW MEXICO wyoming - 8.0 49-20 ohio CENTRAL FLORIDA +16.5 32-42 OKLAHOMA STATE oklahoma +14.0 38-28 SO MISSISSIPPI east carolina -10.0 24- 7 TENNESSEE kentucky - 7.5 24- 0 TOLEDO bowling green - 3.5 42-24 uab CINCINNATI +17.0 23-31 unlv COLORADO STATE +17.5 36-33 USC notre dame -10.0 44-13 VIRGINIA TECH virginia - 6.5 21- 9 west virginia PITTSBURGH + 3.5 24-17 The shocker here is Oklahoma State beating Oklahoma! Wonder what the new BCS rankings will look like?

NFL results: Winner Loser spread score BILLS dolphins + 2.5 38-21 CHARGERS broncos + 3.0 30-27 CHIEFS cardinals - 9.5 49- 0 COLTS texans -11.0 19- 3 EAGLES rams + 1.0 10- 3 falcons VIKINGS - 3.5 30-24 JAGUARS steelers + 3.0 23-25 PACKERS bears - 9.5 30-20 panthers BROWNS + 7.5 13- 6 ravens BENGALS - 3.0 27-23 SAINTS buccaneers + 0.0 23-20 seahawks NINERS + 9.0 24-31 titans GIANTS + 3.0 32-29

Thursday, December 5 - College fresno state 1.5 LOUISIANA TECH Friday, December 6 - College cincinnati 7.5 EAST CAROLINA Saturday, December 7 - College georgia 8.5 arkansas (SEC Championship) marshall 6.0 toledo (MAC Championship) oklahoma 6.5 colorado (Big 12 Championship) HAWAII 14.5 san diego state MIAMI FLA 17.5 virginia tech NAVY 3.0 army ucla NL washington state (WSU QB Gesser Ques)

This week's NFL lines: Sunday, December 8 - NFL broncos 1.0 JETS BUCCANEERS 4.0 falcons CARDINALS 1.5 lions CHIEFS 3.5 rams eagles 4.0 SEAHAWKS JAGUARS 3.0 browns niners 5.0 COWBOYS PACKERS 10.0 vikings PANTHERS 3.0 bengals PATRIOTS 4.5 bills raiders 3.0 CHARGERS REDSKINS 2.5 giants STEELERS 13.5 texans TITANS 2.0 colts RAVENS NL saints Monday, December 9 - NFL DOLPHINS 8.5 bears

Late lines: Saturday, December 7 - College washington state 2.5 UCLA Sunday, December 8 - NFL saints 2.5 RAVENS Last night's college result: fresno state LOUISIANA TECH - 1.5 45-13

college results: Winner Loser spread score GEORGIA arkansas - 8.5 30- 3 SEC Championship NAVY army - 3.0 58-12 oklahoma COLORADO - 6.5 29- 7 Big 12 Championship san diego state HAWAII +14.5 40-41 toledo MARSHALL + 6.0 45-49 MAC Championship virginia tech MIAMI FLA +17.5 45-56 washington state UCLA - 2.5 48-27 NFL results: Winner Loser spread score browns JAGUARS + 3.0 21-20 BUCCANEERS falcons - 4.0 34-10 CARDINALS lions - 1.5 23-20 CHIEFS rams - 3.5 49-10 COWBOYS niners + 5.0 27-31 eagles SEAHAWKS - 4.0 27-20 giants REDSKINS + 2.5 27-21 JETS broncos + 1.0 19-13 PANTHERS bengals - 3.0 52-31 PATRIOTS bills - 4.5 27-17 raiders CHARGERS - 3.0 27- 7 saints RAVENS - 2.5 37-25 texans STEELERS +13.5 24- 6 TITANS colts - 2.0 27-17 vikings PACKERS +10.0 22-26 Home team is in CAPS

cincinnati 8.0 north texas (12/17 - New Orleans Bowl) marshall 2.5 louisville (12/18 - GMAC Bowl) texas tech 5.5 clemson (12/23 - Tangerine Bowl) ucla 10.5 new mexico (12/25 - Las Vegas Bowl) hawaii 12.0 tulane (12/25 - Hawaii Bowl) boston college 4.5 toledo (12/26 - Motor City Bowl) oregon state 1.0 pittsburgh (12/26 - Insight Bowl) oklahoma state 7.0 so mississippi (12/27 - Houston Bowl) nebraska 4.5 mississippi (12/27 - Independence Bowl) kansas state 17.5 arizona state (12/27 - Holiday Bowl) west virginia 5.0 virginia (12/28 - Continental Tire Bowl) colorado 8.0 wisconsin (12/28 - Alamo Bowl) arkansas 8.5 minnesota (12/30 - Music City Bowl) oregon 6.5 wake forest (12/30 - Seattle Bowl) boise state 10.0 iowa state (12/31 - Humanitarian Bowl) washington 3.5 purdue (12/31 - Sun Bowl) colorado state 5.5 texas christian (12/31 - Liberty Bowl) georgia tech 3.5 fresno state (12/31 - Silicon Valley Classic) maryland 1.0 tennessee (12/31 - Peach Bowl) virginia tech 11.5 air force (12/31 - San Francisco Bowl) texas 10.0 louisiana state (1/1 - Cotton Bowl) florida 1.5 michigan (1/1 - Outback Bowl) notre dame 1.0 no carolina st (1/1 - Gator Bowl) penn state 5.5 auburn (1/1 - Capital One Bowl) oklahoma 6.0 washington state (1/1 - Rose Bowl) georgia 3.5 florida state (1/1 - Sugar Bowl) usc 6.0 iowa (1/2 - Orange Bowl) miami fla 13.0 ohio state (1/3 - Fiesta Bowl)

NFL results: Winner Loser spread score BEARS jets + 6.0 20-13 BILLS chargers - 3.0 20-13 BRONCOS chiefs - 4.0 31-24 cardinals RAMS +10.5 28-30 colts BROWNS - 2.5 28-23 DOLPHINS raiders - 1.5 23-17 EAGLES redskins - 7.5 34-21 GIANTS cowboys - 4.5 37- 7 jaguars BENGALS - 2.5 29-15 LIONS buccaneers + 8.5 20-23 packers NINERS + 3.0 20-14 ravens TEXANS - 3.0 23-19 seahawks FALCONS + 9.0 30-24 STEELERS panthers - 8.5 30-14 vikings SAINTS + 7.0 32-31 Monday night result: TITANS patriots - 2.0 24- 7 This week's college lines: cincinnati 8.0 north texas (12/17 - New Orleans Bowl) marshall 2.5 louisville (12/18 - GMAC Bowl) texas tech 5.5 clemson (12/23 - Tangerine Bowl) This week's NFL lines: Saturday, December 21 - NFL dolphins 3.0 VIKINGS eagles 6.5 COWBOYS niners 4.5 CARDINALS Sunday, December 22 - NFL COLTS 5.0 giants FALCONS 11.5 lions PACKERS 7.0 bills PANTHERS 3.0 bears PATRIOTS 3.5 jets RAIDERS 4.0 broncos rams pick SEAHAWKS RAVENS 3.0 browns REDSKINS 6.5 texans saints 7.0 BENGALS titans 3.0 JAGUARS chiefs NL chargers (KC RB Holmes Doubtful) Monday, December 23 - NFL BUCCANEERS 4.5 steelers Last night's college result: Winner Loser spread score north texas CINCINNATI north texas CINCINNATI + 8.0 24-19 12/17 - New Orleans Bowl MARSHALL louisville - 2.5 38-15 12/18 - GMAC Bowl

I'm just happy I did not put money on Louisville in the first college bowl. They played the worst game I've seen this season.

What are there prospects for next season? Do they have a good recruiting class? Good news fo rthe Horns, Roy Williams will be back for his senior year.

NFL results: Winner Loser spread score CARDINALS niners + 4.5 14-17 eagles COWBOYS - 6.5 27- 3 VIKINGS dolphins + 3.0 20-17 BENGALS saints + 7.0 20-13 browns RAVENS + 3.0 14-13 CHIEFS chargers - 1.5 24-22 FALCONS lions -11.5 36-15 giants COLTS + 5.0 44-27 jets PATRIOTS + 3.5 30-17 PACKERS bills - 7.0 10- 0 PANTHERS bears - 3.0 24-14 RAIDERS broncos - 4.0 28-16 REDSKINS texans - 6.5 26-10 SEAHAWKS rams + 0.0 30-10 titans JAGUARS - 3.0 28-10 Home team in CAPS.

Seasons Greeting to all punters I will be back in 2003 to take you all to the cleaners. Joe in ENGLAND

Ahhhhh THAT kind of Football?! Happy Holidays, Joe!b

For Marci penn state 5.5 auburn (1/1 - Capital One Bowl) For George, Frans, et al texas 10.0 louisiana state (1/1 - Cotton Bowl) Joe, I'll round up my laundry for you since you're taking me to the cleaners. Tell them to lightly starch that blue suit, ok? Come on George, one more hail Mary on Texas?

Thanks for the odds on Penn State. Almost a toss-up. But I will bet the lot on my alma mater. How could I do otherwise?!

So with the standings being 40,000 George 7,900 Marci 3,000 Terry 250 Frans 0 Joe With your Christmas bonus of 40,000 each that comes to: 80,000 George 47,900 Marci 43,000 Terry 40,250 Frans 40,000 Joe So it's 47,900 Penn State for Marci

Predict the *exact* score of the Texas game before kickoff and you get a 250,000 virtual dollar bonus. Predict the Superbowl winner before the Texas kickoff and win another 40,000. Predict the two teams in the Superbowl before the Texas Bowl game kickoff and win another 40,000. "Tis the season for giving.

Wow! Since this is my year to Boom or Bust, I'd like to take Penn State with me. Think positive... Thanks Terry! Exact score for Texas? If I could do that I would be in Las Vegas and not in Hilo!

40.000 texas I have a feeling or is it the Drink lol Joe

What is the exact score?

You have to pick a score, for example: Texas 28 LSU 12 That's my prediction. And 40,000 Texas You'll have to read the NFL topic to get ideas about the Superbowl topic, but remember to get your entries in before the Texas Bowl game kickoff!

OHOOOOOO OHOOOOOOOOO OHOOOOOOOOO Thank you Santa Claus for the 40 grand !!!!!!!! Merry X-mas to you all.!!!!!

Results for Christmas Day bowl games: Winner Loser spread score tulane HAWAII +12.0 36-28 12/25 - Hawaii Bowl UCLA new mexico -10.5 27-13 12/25 - Las Vegas Bowl Vegas is still late with some lines for the pros. Here's what I have so far: Saturday, December 28 - NFL eagles 1.5 GIANTS RAIDERS 7.0 chiefs Sunday, December 29 - NFL BEARS NL buccaneers BILLS 7.0 bengals BRONCOS 11.0 cardinals dolphins pick PATRIOTS CHARGERS 3.0 seahawks COLTS NL jaguars falcons 2.5 BROWNS JETS 1.5 packers REDSKINS 6.5 cowboys SAINTS 7.0 panthers STEELERS 7.5 ravens titans 8.0 TEXANS vikings 3.5 LIONS Monday, December 30 - NFL RAMS NL niners

To help you with your Superbowl predictions: Current Playoff rankings - Week 16: NFC AFC 1. Philadelphia 1. Oakland 2. Green Bay 2. Tennessee 3. Tampa Bay 3. Pittsburgh 4. San Francisco 4. Miami 5. Atlanta 5. Indianapolis 6. NY Giants 6. Cleveland 7. New Orleans 7. NY Jets ------------------------ 8. Denver ELIMINATED: 9. San Diego 8. St. Louis 10. New England 9. Seattle 11. Kansas City 10. Washington 12. Baltimore 11. Carolina ----------------------- 12. Arizona ELIMINATED: 13. Minnesota 13. Buffalo 14. Dallas 14. Jacksonville 15. Chicago 15. Houston 16. Cincinnati 16. Detroit

Miami 24 San Francisco 13

Texas 21 LSU 10 Texas 40.000

Predict the exact score and the winner and loser in the Superbowl before the Texas Cotton Bowl kickoff and win a one million dollar bonus. Predict Cedric Bensen's yards gained rushing and get another 40,000 bonus.

That's Cedric's yards gained rushnig in the cotton bowl.

Piece of bread, kindling and a drink, eh Joe. And it has to be brought by a tall dark person? Just after midnight.

Yes thats it Paul The dark hair'd person for luck the kindling for fuel to keep your fires burning the bread to feed you through the year the drink to make sore you have plenty all brought in by the first person through you door after midnight old years night ie new years day Joe

In Hawaii, I stand a good chance of getting someone with BLACK hair to come on New Year's Day. Please tell me the tradition from which this came. I am fascinated. Hauoli Makahiki Hou

I'll defer to Joe, he told me about it.

I was hoping to hear from him. In the current situation in Hilo, we have to eat sourkraut and roasted pork on New Year's Day for the same effect. Local Japanese communities pound mochi rice into paste and make little cakes out of it with a red food coloring stamp for good luck. Also tangerines with a little of the stem and a leaf still on it is given for long life. I am American and have to New Year's traditions, though my English ancestors are probably screaming at me from where I cannot hear them. No one in my family has black hair. I do know one Welshman...

Hi the first foot tradition comes from scotland like all good things it is copied by all. Joe

FIRST-FOOT, in British folklore, especially that of the north and Scotland, the first person who crosses the threshold on Christmas or New Year�s Eve. Good or ill luck is believed to be brought the house by First-Foot, and a female First-Foot is regarded with dread. In Lancashire a light-haired man is as unlucky as a woman, and it became a custom for dark-haired males to hire themselves out to � take the New Year in.� In Worcestershire luck is ensured by stopping the first carol-singer who appears and leading him through the house. In Yorkshire it must always be a male who enters the house first, but his fairness is no objection. In Scotland first-footing was always more elaborate than in England, involving a subsequent entertainment. Joe

college results: Winner Loser spread score BOSTON COLLEGE toledo - 4.5 51-25 12/26 - Motor City Bowl pittsburgh OREGON STATE + 1.0 38-13 12/26 - Insight Bowl

buccaneers 6.5 BEARS And, the final college result of the year: ohio state MIAMI FLA +13.0 31-24 Fiesta Bowl Winner Loser spread score falcons PACKERS + 6.5 27- 7 JETS colts - 6.0 41- 0 Home team is in CAPS Winner Loser spread score arizona state KANSAS STATE +17.5 27-34 12/27 - Holiday Bowl mississippi NEBRASKA + 4.5 27-23 12/27 - Independence Bowl OKLAHOMA STATE so mississippi - 7.0 33-23 12/27 - Houston Bowl NFL results: Winner Loser spread score GIANTS eagles + 1.5 10- 7 RAIDERS chiefs - 7.0 24- 0 Final NFL stragglers: Sunday, December 29 - NFL COLTS 9.0 jaguars Monday, December 30 - NFL niners 1.0 RAMS

With the big server move over the last few days things have gone in to chaos hyere. Or maybe in to theat place in Lord of the Rings called Mordor. So here's your "big gulp" o' socres and lines to get you up to date. Everyone jnjoying their Christmas bonuses? Winner Loser spread score BOSTON COLLEGE toledo - 4.5 51-25 12/26 - Motor City Bowl pittsburgh OREGON STATE + 1.0 38-13 12/26 - Insight Bowl buccaneers 6.5 BEARS Winner Loser spread score arizona state KANSAS STATE +17.5 27-34 12/27 - Holiday Bowl mississippi NEBRASKA + 4.5 27-23 12/27 - Independence Bowl OKLAHOMA STATE so mississippi - 7.0 33-23 12/27 - Houston Bowl Winner Loser spread score GIANTS eagles + 1.5 10- 7 RAIDERS chiefs - 7.0 24- 0 Sunday, December 29 - NFL COLTS 9.0 jaguars Monday, December 30 - NFL niners 1.0 RAMS virginia WEST VIRGINIA + 5.0 48-22 12/28 - Continental Tire wisconsin COLORADO + 8.0 31-28 12/28 - Alamo Bowl RAMS niners + 1.0 31-20 minnesota ARKANSAS + 8.5 29-14 12/30 - Music City Bowl wake forest OREGON + 6.5 38-17 12/30 - Seattle Bowl FINAL college lines for the pool: Tuesday, December 31 - College boise state 10.0 iowa state (Humanitarian Bowl) washington 3.5 purdue (Sun Bowl) colorado state 5.5 texas christian (Liberty Bowl) georgia tech 3.5 fresno state (Silicon Valley Classic) maryland 1.0 tennessee (Peach Bowl) virginia tech 11.5 air force (San Francisco Bowl) Wednesday, January 1 - College texas 10.0 louisiana state (Cotton Bowl) florida 1.5 michigan (Outback Bowl) notre dame 1.0 no carolina st (Gator Bowl) penn state 5.5 auburn (Capital One Bowl) oklahoma 6.0 washington state (Rose Bowl) georgia 3.5 florida state (Sugar Bowl) Thursday, January 2 - College usc 6.0 iowa (Orange Bowl) Friday, January 3 - College miami fla 13.0 ohio state (Fiesta Bowl) This week's NFL playoff lines: Saturday, January 4 - NFL JETS 6.0 colts PACKERS 6.5 falcons Sunday, January 5 - NFL STEELERS 8.0 browns NINERS 3.5 giants New Year's Eve college results: Winner Loser spread score air force VIRGINIA TECH +11.5 13-20 San Francisco Bowl BOISE STATE iowa state -10.0 34-16 Humanitarian Bowl fresno state GEORGIA TECH + 3.5 30-21 Silicon Valley Classic MARYLAND tennessee - 1.0 30- 3 Peach Bowl purdue WASHINGTON + 3.5 34-24 Sun Bowl texas christian COLORADO STATE + 5.5 17- 3 Liberty Bowl Winner Loser spread score auburn PENN STATE + 5.5 13- 9 Capital One Bowl GEORGIA florida state - 3.5 26-13 Sugar Bowl michigan FLORIDA + 1.5 38-30 Outback Bowl no carolina st NOTRE DAME + 1.0 28- 6 Gator Bowl OKLAHOMA washington state - 6.0 34-14 Rose Bowl TEXAS louisiana state -10.0 35-20 Cotton Bowl Favorite is in CAPS final college result of the year: ohio state MIAMI FLA +13.0 31-24 Fiesta Bowl Winner Loser spread score falcons PACKERS + 6.5 27- 7 JETS colts - 6.0 41- 0 And a recap of all the past and present lines: Tuesday, December 31 - College boise state 10.0 iowa state (Humanitarian Bowl) washington 3.5 purdue (Sun Bowl) colorado state 5.5 texas christian (Liberty Bowl) georgia tech 3.5 fresno state (Silicon Valley Classic) maryland 1.0 tennessee (Peach Bowl) virginia tech 11.5 air force (San Francisco Bowl) Wednesday, January 1 - College texas 10.0 louisiana state (Cotton Bowl) florida 1.5 michigan (Outback Bowl) notre dame 1.0 no carolina st (Gator Bowl) penn state 5.5 auburn (Capital One Bowl) oklahoma 6.0 washington state (Rose Bowl) georgia 3.5 florida state (Sugar Bowl) Thursday, January 2 - College usc 6.0 iowa (Orange Bowl) Friday, January 3 - College miami fla 13.0 ohio state (Fiesta Bowl) Saturday, January 4 - NFL JETS 6.0 colts PACKERS 6.5 falcons Sunday, January 5 - NFL STEELERS 8.0 browns NINERS 3.5 giants

Results for NFL games, week of 1319 Winner Loser spread score buccaneers EAGLES + 3.5 27-10 RAIDERS titans - 7.5 41-24 Only one more game to go. The SuperbowlXXXVII Tampa Bay vs. Oakland Sunday 5 pm on ABC and KVET-AM.

One more game. One more bet if you want to make it.

40000 Tampa Bay Joe

80,000 George 47,900 Marci 43,000 Terry 40,250 Frans 40,000 Joe 38,000 Raiders

Superbowl lines will be out in the next few days. Possibly as early as later today. Joe and I have already made our moves without knowing the spread. I'm going with my gut on this one. You *can* change your bet right up to kickoff though. And I willhave some special "prop" bets. If you've never heard of a prop bet, stay tuned.

Thanks Paul I will watch Joe

SUPER BOWL XXXVII (bets must be posted by 600pm EST, Sunday, January 26 unless otherwise noted) Spreads and Totals spread o/u Game Raiders -4 43.5 Half 1 Raiders -2 22 Half 2 Raiders -2 21.5 Quarter 1 pick 8 Quarter 2 Raiders -2 14 Quarter 3 pick 8 Quarter 4 (+OT) Raiders -2 13 Odds Bets Margin of Victory First TD scored by Total Points First score is OAK by 37+ 30-1 C Garner 9-2 0-14 75-1 OAK FG 7-2 OAK by 31-36 22-1 M Alstott 6-1 15-21 30-1 OAK TD pass 3-1 OAK by 25-30 15-1 K Johnson 7-1 22-28 15-1 OAK TD run 4-1 OAK by 19-24 10-1 J Porter 7-1 29-35 7-1 OAK TD other 20-1 OAK by 13-18 5-1 J Rice 8-1 36-42 3-1 OAK safety 40-1 OAK by 7-12 3-1 Z Crockett 8-1 43-49 5-2 TB FG 4-1 OAK by 1- 6 5-2 K McCardell 10-1 50-56 3-1 TB TD pass 5-1 TB by 1- 6 4-1 J Jurevicius 15-1 57-63 6-1 TB TD run 7-1 TB by 7-12 7-1 T Brown 15-1 64-70 15-1 TB TD other 18-1 TB by 13-18 12-1 D Jolley 15-1 71-77 35-1 TB safety 50-1 TB by 19-24 20-1 K Dilger 15-1 78+ 40-1 TB by 25-30 35-1 M Pittman 18-1 TB by 31-36 50-1 R Dudley 18-1 TB by 37+ 60-1 R Gannon 18-1 B Johnson 22-1 J Ritchie 25-1 Field 9-2 no TD in game 40-1 Proposition Bets for all bets, guess which total/time is greater/longer you may bet up to 1000 virtual dollars on the anthem prop place bet by SB XXXVII event non-SB XXXVII event ------------ ---------------------------- --------------------------- Sat 10pm EST Total TDs scored Sets in Men's Final Australian Open Sun 12pm EST Total points scored Total points scored C Webber and V Carter Kings-Raptors Sun 1pm EST Receiving Yards Total points scored J Porter - Raiders P Pierce and T McGrady Celtics-Magic Sun 6pm EST Time for the Dixie Chicks 2:10 to perform "The Star-Spangled Banner"

What does ....Game Raiders -4 43.5 mean ? Joe

That's my fault for the bad formatting. This will be much clearer. SUPER BOWL XXXVII (bets must be posted by 600pm EST, Sunday, January 26 unless otherwise noted) Spreads and Totals spread o/u Game Raiders -4 43.5 Half 1 Raiders -2 22 Half 2 Raiders -2 21.5 Quarter 1 pick 8 Quarter 2 Raiders -2 14 Quarter 3 pick 8 Quarter 4 (+OT) Raiders -2 13 Odds Bets Margin of Victory First TD scored by Total Points First score is OAK by 37+ 30-1 C Garner 9-2 0-14 75-1 OAK FG 7-2 OAK by 31-36 22-1 M Alstott 6-1 15-21 30-1 OAK TD pass 3-1 OAK by 25-30 15-1 K Johnson 7-1 22-28 15-1 OAK TD run 4-1 OAK by 19-24 10-1 J Porter 7-1 29-35 7-1 OAK TD other 20-1 OAK by 13-18 5-1 J Rice 8-1 36-42 3-1 OAK safety 40-1 OAK by 7-12 3-1 Z Crockett 8-1 43-49 5-2 TB FG 4-1 OAK by 1- 6 5-2 K McCardell 10-1 50-56 3-1 TB TD pass 5-1 TB by 1- 6 4-1 J Jurevicius 15-1 57-63 6-1 TB TD run 7-1 TB by 7-12 7-1 T Brown 15-1 64-70 15-1 TB TD other 18-1 TB by 13-18 12-1 D Jolley 15-1 71-77 35-1 TB safety 50-1 TB by 19-24 20-1 K Dilger 15-1 78+ 40-1 TB by 25-30 35-1 M Pittman 18-1 TB by 31-36 50-1 R Dudley 18-1 TB by 37+ 60-1 R Gannon 18-1 B Johnson 22-1 J Ritchie 25-1 Field 9-2 no TD in game 40-1 Proposition Bets for all bets, guess which total/time is greater/longer you may bet up to 1000 virtual dollars on the anthem prop place bet by SB XXXVII event non-SB XXXVII event ------------ ---------------------------- --------------------------- Sat 10pm EST Total TDs scored Sets in Men's Final Australian Open Sun 12pm EST Total points scored Total points scored C Webber and V Carter Kings-Raptors Sun 1pm EST Receiving Yards Total points scored J Porter - Raiders P Pierce and T McGrady Celtics-Magic Sun 6pm EST Time for the Dixie Chicks 2:10 to perform "The Star-Spangled Banner" Mo' bettah Joe. These are some *sample* or should I say *example* bets to gie you an idea. And you can cascade bets, like take a first quarter bet win some and then add it to your total and bet on the next quarter. So you could poteintally double, triple, or increase your earnings by the timed sequence of your bets. 100 First TD: T Brown 100 Over/under: Over 100 Oakland by 7-12 100 First score: Oak TD Pass 100 Prop: Webber/Carter 50 Total SB points greater than total Webber+Carter points 500 Buccaneers +4 (Game) 200 Under 43.5 (Game) 3 Quarter 4 Under 13 points 200 Bucaneers win by 7-12 points 50 Dixies Chicks go Over 2:10 minutes on the National Anthem 500 First Score is Tampa Bay "Other" 200 1st TD by Crockett 200 Total TD's scored > Sets in Aussie Open Final 100 1st TD by Jolley 200 Oak by 13-18 200 Over in 1st half 100 Total points 64-70 200 Total points 71-77 200 Dixie Chicks go under 2:10 for anthem 2500 Jolley 1st TD 2500 T Brown 1st TD 2500 Gannon 1st Td Above are "samples" only, not my bets.

For example you could put all yoru winnings on teh Dixie Checks and go from 40,000 to 80,000 and then bet the 80,000 on the Jolley 1st TCD and so on.

Even odds on the coin toss and you can these winnings on the game if you get your bet in before the kickoff. That gives you a minute or two.

Heads or tails. Odds are even.

20000 oakland to win the toss then all onto Tampa Bay to beat the spread Joe

20000 Oakland Coin Toss

ok last second!!!!!!!!!!!! 40000 on tempa bay

The standings before the Superbowl: 80,000 George 47,900 Marci 43,000 Terry 40,250 Frans 40,000 Joe I was 0 for 2 so ended up with zip. Joe lost 20k on the toss and won 20k on the game. Frans was the big winner with his last second hail mary and ends up with 80,250. So Frans narrowly edges out George, who is not a big Pro Football fan. Final Standings 80,250 Frans 80,000 George 47,900 Marci 40,000 Joe 0 Terry Congratulations Frans on winning this years pool and condolences to George who did incredibly well in predicting the Longhorns season this year. Come back next year and bring your buddies along!

And congrats to Marci who ended up in the number 3 spot, ahead of Joe by virtue of not entering the Superbowl fray. Lesson for me. Don't bet on a bunch of forty somethings in a football game Bob Nagy came over and watched the game and actually showed interest and I gave hime a rundown on the rules. He did coax me in to switching from tivo to the perfect picture on the big 10' dish. It was a wild feed on ABC. We had a fun Superbowl party.

Joe, bob and several others did the virtual trophy award on Echolink and in the repeater.org chat room. See http://www.repeater.org/frans.htm

I was certain I had lost every last cent in the Penn State debacle. Did I miss something? Yippee if I did!

George ended up the winner. Things got a little confused when we lost some data moving the server and for a bit we though Frans had won. Instead, he has been crowned the Euopean Champion. Marci, you are the Hawaiin South Pacific Champion!

Hi You all. Let me know when the new pool will be startet. I saved all that mony from last season so i have a lot to spend this pool. p.s. Its tropical warm this summer in Holland on the moment its 36 degr outside. So George: The beer tast verry well !!!

Season's close at hand. The Horns are out on the practice fields. The players are saying this years team, at this stage, could whup last years team. That's a good sign.