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~terry Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (08:09) seed
Smallville is about the boyhood of Superman, growing up in the town which bears the series name. And it may not be what you expect, the characters resemble those of the old Superman show in a way, but in another way they have their own personalities and characteristics. WB has a clever website cast in the form of the town's newspaper: http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/smallville/ledger/home.jsp?frompage=sitemap
~terry Sun, Oct 20, 2002 (23:18) #1
Does anyone else like this show, or am I still just a kid at heart? I loved the Sueprman series growing up. Is Lana Lois? And what about Lex Luthor, he's Clark's best friend not his enemy. I have to say I like this twist but we know what the future holds someday in Metropolis. Or do we? Is the relationship between Clark and Lex taking on Xenalike, homoerotic proportions? I've read this elsewhere on the net, but I never would have gone in this direction. Of course, I haven't followed the Xena/Gaby relationship. could someone inform on this?
~terry Mon, Oct 21, 2002 (07:12) #2
One interesting weblog comment from: http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=thamiris&itemid=107917#cutid1 Better Dead Than Red: Clark, Lex and The Demise of Moral Ambiguity in Smallville In discussing "Red," I could spend hours talking about butch!Clark and all the naked images he inspired, or the unbelievable slashiness of the Clark/Lex interaction, but that would just be an endless series of horny grunts and groans. Instead, I want to talk about how under his leather Clark Kent is Lex Luthor, and to consider the implications of this. When I first saw the teaser for "Red," before the episode aired, I actually wondered if somehow Lex had taken over Clark's body. The scene where a Ferrari-driving Clark revels in the possibilities afforded by his talents as Jonathan looks on, horrified, demonstrated the kind of brash, bottom-line arrogance that Lex might show with his own father, that need to get the hell out of Dodge and take over the world. The paternal relationship can turn Lex's bravado on overload, where he's forced to play big to match his father, and Clark's behavior seemed very familiar on that count. At the same time, I kept tripping over my sense that this Lex I was positing wasn't quite matched by what Lex is, a morally-ambiguous guy who's often able to choose morality over money, despite his father's will. Lionel says, "Cut twenty percent of the workforce at the plant," and Lex finds a way to save the workers' jobs ("Hothead"). Lionel says, "Return to Metropolis," and Lex stays there, being a friend to Clark ("Reaper"), running a coffee shop that doesn't turn a profit ("Heat"), trying to bond with Jonathan Kent ("Drone," "Vortex"). So why did I feel like Clark was somehow behaving like Lex, when Lex really isn't all about the money, sex and power, but a lot more? As I started to record my response to "Red," I realized why I kept seeing Lex in Clark's behavior: it wasn't Lex as he is, but Lex as he's believed to be by nearly everyone around him, the selfish, amoral, greedy son of a capitalist. I'd even suggest that perhaps Clark has internalized these glimpses of who Lex could be, that perhaps Clark's behavior reflects his worries about who Lex is. Others have pointed out that in "Red" Clark begins to dress like Lex, at least once he gets rid of the leather jacket of Badititude. That is, the further along he goes, the more Clark becomes the darker version of Lex, not so much Lex we meet in Smallville, who's capable of incredible kindness and generosity, but the public face of Lex Luthor, the one about whom Carrie Castle writes her article, the one whose irresponsibility shut down the plant, the one who would be capable of robbing a bank for the thrill of it. This is the Lex Luthor who, when telling Clark in "Shimmer" about the watch his mother gave him, compares himself to Napoleon and presents his life in terms of conquest: "Napoleon�s mother couldn�t make it to his coronation. But when he commissioned it, Napoleon told David to paint her in as if she were there, right in the center. Even though she couldn�t be there physically, he brought her into his life through sheer force of will, there to share in his greatness." Consider the similarities between this public image of Lex, this possible version of Lex, and Clark's behavior in "Red". Clark has no scruples about using women, about divorcing emotion from power-plays and sexual games. While he's obviously physically attracted to Jessie, he doesn't seem to feel more than that, and gloms onto her as his ticket to freedom. He plays her off Lana, which I think he does as deliberate payback for Lana's recalcitrance: Clark mentions that he's noticed Lana's jealousy for the attention he's paying Jessie, and admits that he likes it. He uses that jealousy to force Lana to come around, manipulating her quite overtly, without regard to his ability to hurt her, which he does as the ending of the episode reaffirms. Similarly, in the darkest version of "Zero," Lex uses Amanda in a game against her fiance, Jude. While his motives could be altruistic, in the darkest version he's setting her up so that he can bang her, playing on her emotions in a selfish way to get what he wants. The same applies to his relationship with Victoria, whom he's using to get back at his father (and at her for betraying him), or with Carrie Castle in "Drone," for trying to ruin his reputation. That is, superficially Lex's relationships are more about power than anything else, less about genuine affection, and the same can be said for Clark's. There's a sexual component to both, but Clark seems to be living out Lex's words to him about women and love in "Shimmer": "Relationships aren�t always about love, Clark. Sometimes they�re about mutual goals." Later Lex adds about his relationship with Victoria: "We�re playing chess, Clark. It�s a game." more at http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=thamiris&itemid=107917#cutid1
~Moon Mon, Oct 21, 2002 (11:17) #3
Funny article! Does anyone else like this show, or am I still just a kid at heart? I loved the Sueprman series growing up. I am a faithful follower. Clark is a doll! Is Lana Lois? No. Lana is Lana. Chloe is (the future), Lois. And what about Lex Luthor, he's Clark's best friend not his enemy. I have to say I like this twist but we know what the future holds someday in Metropolis. It's safe to say that they will become enemies in the future. I like the way the story sets them up as friends first. Is the relationship between Clark and Lex taking on Xenalike, homoerotic proportions? I don't see it. But my mind is not always looking out for homoerotic pervertions as many are in Hollywood.
~terry Tue, Oct 22, 2002 (07:43) #4
I'm glad someone else watches this show besides me moon, I thought I would be all alone. I think it's a well done show with interesting actors, great music and a fantastic spin on the ageold superman legend. I'm glad they've gone in to a second season, I understand the show is doing well in the ratings, as it should.
~terry Wed, Oct 23, 2002 (08:57) #5
Pretty decent Smallville site: http://www.kryptonsite.com/
~terry Tue, Nov 30, 2004 (14:47) #6
Pretty good Smallville site: http://t_d_farrin.tripod.com/smallville/ Here's a sample description of the most recent episode: Jason has a meeting at LuthorCorp to meet with Human Ressources. It looks like people know about Lana and Jason. Lionel, still in prison, plays chess with another inmate. Lionel claims that he's a changed man and wants to help his fellowmen, his cellmates, and that he wants to stay in prison! Chloe and Clark go on a secret field trip at LuthorCorp where things are too quiet compared to usual. An accident involving the meteor rocks happened at LuthorCorp and several employees are unconcious. The infected personnel are quarantined and the other employees are trying to fix the leak. They were working on a military project to create a toxin that would invoke people's worst nightmares so that the Army could disable the enemy without using force... but someone who visited the plant is now in the hospital could it spread? Will they find the antidote in time because the human body cannot withstand that amount of fear for very long. OFFICIAL DESCRIPTION: TOXIC WASTE - Lex's secret experiment at Luthorcorp goes awry and causes a dangerous toxin to be released into Smallville. Those infected by the toxin, including Clark, Lana, Lex, and Jason imagine their greatest fears come true and then fall into a coma. Desperate to find a cure, Clark gives some of his blood to Lex and is stunned at what Lex does with the antidote. Allison Mack, John Glover, Annette O'Toole and John Schneider also star. David Carson directed the episode written by Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson. http://t_d_farrin.tripod.com/smallville/episodes/season4/10.html
~cfadm Sat, Jul 1, 2006 (20:11) #7
I'm still a huge Smallville fan. This season's finale really rocked but it opened so many questions that are going to be tough to resolve next season. I grew up with Superman and this show is about my favorite on tv. http://www.kryptonsite.com/ is good but the ads are kinda gross. Don't go to ti if you hate popups and flashing ads. Tom Welling Throws "First Pitch" In Baseball Game Special thanks to: Maria Tom Welling made a rare public appearance at the Boston Red Sox vs. New York Mets game on Thursday, June 29, as he threw the ceremonial first pitch of the game.
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